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Economic Perspective & Personal Liberty

October 15, 2008 by  

Economic Perspective & Personal Liberty

What can you gain most from www.PersonalLiberty.com? What I wish for all of you is health plus wealth, a very high goal in an uncertain world. But I believe it is doable.

There is a requirement on your part. That is to keep your focus on reality paying no attention to political noise, the controlled media, the economic establishment or indeed the medical cartel in America. This is all noise and interferes with a calm and sober psyche. I wish that I could talk with every one of you, but I cannot, and get my vast amount of reading and work done.

I just hope that I can get through to you in these issues of Liberty Alerts.

Now here it is as I perceive it: The U.S. is deteriorating at a very fast rate, even perceptible now to millions who up to now have not noticed. It really doesn’t matter “WHO” is doing it to us. The main thing is that “it” is being done.

We wish to choose Personal Liberty as much as possible within the law of the land, whether or not we agree with those laws.

Our great and overpowering advantage is our accumulation of special information that we dig for. But to take maximum advantage, we do have to think outside the box. Sorry, this is a requirement.

I hope that all of you know the parable of the sower in Scripture. Some seed sprang up and withered, some took shallow root and grew for a time and died, and some took root and grew and thrived.

The lesson is that many are planted but few become permanent. And so it is with people. Only a few focus and can hold their focus until they achieve Personal Liberty upon a foundation of health and wealth.

We need to quit looking back over our shoulders at the system and quit being influenced by the system.

Therefore the main and powerful issue facing everyone in the United States is the depreciating currency. This is very simple to understand but seems to be an illusion for most people. Somehow people cannot grasp that they can be impoverished simply by accumulating, saving and holding the currency of the land.

Why is this mass illusion perpetuated? The answer is that the myth blinds the masses because they have childlike misplaced faith in “authority.” They are politically naive. Few can imagine that the system is not honest, that indeed it is very sophisticated fraud.

A depreciating currency expedites a transfer of wealth from the producers and savers to the money creators.

Depreciating currency becomes hyperinflation and finally in the end game, deflation and economic collapse. As we experience a hyperinflation there will be, as has always been, a quick disappearance of cash (deflation).

Money creators through all the ages have many pretenses and disguises like war, price controls, exchange controls, etc. Translated this is suppression of liberty and severe restriction of privacy and travel. These events are going on now and will increase along with massive propaganda. Remember, the majority believe propaganda until it is too late for survival.

The rest rationalize that things are bad but that times will get better long before there is a reign of terror. This was the mindset of the German people in the 1930s. While few escaped, most believed the propaganda and you know the endgame in Nazi Germany.

If the face of tyranny is pretty enough, people can be manipulated to adore it and embrace it. Modern tyranny is so sophisticated that it actually appears benevolent to the masses. How Herr Goebels would love it! He must be smiling now!

All this is what we get when depreciating currency is used to confiscate the wealth and savings of the people. All fraud, social and economic chaos has its origin in depreciating currency.

When prices rise (inflation) this is depreciating paper money. But the people don’t make the simple conclusion, so the fraud goes on.

I am so concerned with this impending economic decline and the affront to your personal liberty; I hope you will continue to read my Liberty Alerts to stay apprized of all the issues that affect you on a regular basis. I’d also love to hear you thoughts and opinions by taking part in the discussions that will ensue as right-minded individuals come together in one common forum.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Steven Norvell

    Has it gone unnoticed that there is no spot to vote that the democrats may have caused this financial crisis?

    • val cousino

      What facts and recorded events are you referring to to back up your claim?
      The current econimic crises surely started with the now lionized President Regan,
      who initated deregulation of banks, airlines, and corporations. It is also true that President Clinton contributed to our downfall with the so-called free trade agreement. Add in the unprecedented greed and dishonesty of the entire financial industry, and a completely screwy system that is corrupt to its very core,
      and you have the current sorry situation. The problem with reactionaries such as yourself is that they just toss out accusations without any facts to back up their
      claims and expect people to swallow their warped theories whole. I, for one, am not buying it. Know your history, and quote your sources before you make such absurd claims . The rebublican party has been in power for thirty years, So get with it. they wrecked everything, now they’re looking around for someone else to blame. Not that the demorcrats are much better,the problem is that the democrets are conservative, and republicans are reactionary. However they need to admit that they made mistakes, and take steps to correct them. the public has spoen loud and clear-EAT THE RICH!!!!

      • Jess Hudson

        Val; you liberals don’t have a clue. I agree that both parties SUCK; after all “they” are only interested in lining their own pockets and votes that keep them lining their pockets. Reagon was the root of creating the greatest economy of moderm history but not strong enough to withstand the Clinton years. We would have been better off if Clinton had stayed in the oval office and kept his mouth as busy as you know who, in other words keep his mouth shut. Reagon, by the way, was the only leader that I know that totally eliminated an enemy (USSR) without firing a shot or getting anyone killed. Deregulation is good only if the frigging government would stay out of the free enterprise system. If a business fails then let it fail and the strong will rise up to take its place.

        • Joe

          I agree with you, Jess…this “crisis” has been going on for many, many years. The policicians ARE interested in the almighty vote and that, of course, means money to them … The government needs to stay out of the free market because they are not business minded people. For career policicians, Greed seems to be a fitting adjective.

          • Marsha Clark

            God Bless

          • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

            Agreed. A Greed is the fundamental problem, and not just for money, but also for power. And it would appear much of the greed is outside the government, acting by proxy, so as to stay hidden. We know it, but do not call the proxies to explain or be fired!

        • Truman

          Jess; I also agree. It’s hard to understand how liberals simply are blinded by the truth and only want entitlements at the expense of the wealthy.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jess, maybe you should read with this famous economic Libertarian stated about Reagan. http://libertyunbound/com/article.php?id=303

        • Paul

          Jess
          There Are Only Two People left in America,The Anti Christ Anti American Anti Constitution Zionist Jew Who only has the Love of other Peoples Money Life and Property.and The OTHER IS THE Americans That have Gone the Way Of the ungodly Jew
          As the Quanity of Jews and their 1000s of Their Lobbys Increase, and The Laws they Get passed, The Quality Of Your Life,Freedom and the Production of American Products HAS And WILL DECRESASE.
          They have Infiltrrated Every Aspect Of this once Free Christiasn Republic,Finance Education Mediceine The Universitys,The Congress,Senate and Worst The Supream and Inferior Courts. and And Are Here To Steal Kill; and Destroy What is Left to your Freedom They Bought Up All They have With NO Money Not One Lawful Silver Dollar
          You Can Thank Murderer Woodrow Wilson Louis Brandise ant His Jew Handlers and Every Prsident and Congress Since1913
          What they will Do now that they Have a Jew Staked Court With the Last Two Whores Sonia Sotmeyer And Now Kagan The Lesbiean Anti God Jew will be A Force You will have to Deal With that will be Hard to overcome, and we will Lose Our Country the Same as They Did to Russia and Murderd their Whole Government Family.As will happen to This one as well,BUT they Still Need Us to Get Rid of Any Enemys of the Anti GodAnti Christ Jew Communist Agenda as we Did Germany Italy and Japan Their Take over of Koria and The Complete take over of Vietnan Thanks To Abbey Hoffaman ,Rubin and Bill Ayiers And their YTerrorist Atrtascks On Americans and will Even use the Muslims to Weakin and Destroy this Christian Nation as You have already Allowed them to Do, One step at a Time and Continue their Established United Nation and the Anti Christ One World Government With the Help of The Bastard Harry S Trueman and Alger Hess to Finish what the Communist Bastard Rooevelt Started
          What Do you Have That You Can Use or Give to Me, That You Or I Do not have to Pay the Zionist through the Government For The Right To keep it, Use It,or Shit it out??????
          I Dare you to Answer it.
          Paul

          • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jill

            Are you upset with God’s chosen people?

          • norman

            You are 100% correct. the comment about Gods Chosen People, they don’t have a clue as to who Israel is. It is not the jews in israel

          • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST e.poet

            Paul, You are disgusting, and ignorant as well. Anti-semetism raises its ugly head whenever the times get economicly tough. Blaming jews and Israel is old and filthy. Money grubbing people come from all nations and races, so cut the crap. This is simply sickening! Have you ever been to Israel? Israelis are some of the most full of joy and appreciative of life people to be found on the face of the earth. Crawl out of your decomposing wormhole, and take a look at reality instead of your sick fantasy. Your arms are too short to box with G-d.
            HE says, I will bless those who bless my people Israel, and I will curse those who curse my people Israel…Wow! I would sure hate to be you.
            The United States problems are a direct result of two things, the progressive movement (study Woodrow Wilson, and his propagandist Edward Bernays, and Lippman)…(or then again, you probebly already have, as they were much admired by Hitler’s henchman Goebbles) The other source of our problems can be directly traced to…OURSELVES. We didn’t mind the fort, we all fell asleep and thought our way of life was some form of perpetual motion machine. We have only just started to wake up. Benjamin Franklin informed a person who asked him upon his leaving the Constitutional Congress, Well what form of government do we have? Franklin answered him, “A Republic, if you can keep it.” Well every one out there, ARE we going to keep it? Or is an Orwellian nightmare becoming more to our taste. We choose!

          • Pete from Australia

            I’ve never heard such a load of rubbish in my whole life. Most Jewish people I know just want to provide for their families, they work hard, and like to get ahead!
            They are the sort of people who enrich any nation. They have a huge number of people who have won Nobel prizes, they are often talented, intelligent people. Maybe that’s why you don’t like them Paul.
            I’m lowering my standards of behaviour just replying to your illiterate rant.
            However, I feel I have to say something, although I don’t think anyone could change your stupid, bigoted, irrational views.
            Jews also fit in well wherever they settle, and you don’t find them flying planes into buildings!! Also they don’t want to convert the world to their viewpoint at the edge of a sword!!
            Also the idea that they have all the money is crazy. There are more Chinese and Japanese millionaires than Jewish ones!!
            If you don’t want them, I’d rather they all come to Australia, where they would be welcome, for their energy, intelligence and initiative.

          • Robert S

            Paul You are 100% right but I would get ready for the attacks that will be coming from the little Zionist stooges that worship Fox News.

          • Granny Mae

            Paul,

            You know what? I spent most of my life as a excepted christian in a jewish family. I spent as much time at their home as I did at my own. I shared everything with them from the arrival of a new baby in their home to vacations. These were the most wonderful people I have ever known. They have been very close to my entire family. I learned a lot about Jews and their families and their way of life and if more people were like them including yourself, this world would be a better place. How you can possibly make the remarks you have made about them is beyond me! You have no knowledge of these people and that is obvious . To know nothing about someone and say the things you have said is unforgivable ! I have known a lot of people like you , bigotid and blowing hate from their mouths and always letting their mouths overload their ass ! It is clear that you have nothing constructive or positive to add to any conversation. You sir are a waste of good air !

          • Granny Mae

            Robert ,

            You fit right in with Paul and also have nothing constructive to offer to this world. You too are a waste of space !

          • guest

            Oh my word…oh dear God.I only read enough to see that your thinking is not new. Your thinking comes right out of the nazis rule book’s. Those ppl. who refuse to learn from history repeat it. I am seeing right before my eyes the thinking that killed million’s of Jew’s during ww2.How dare you!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey there, Hitler Jr., it isnt the Jew you need to worry about, its the muslims ok? Do you not understand that? God has disciplined the Jews over and over throughout the years, and all through the Bible, which if you read it you would know it, so you dont need to worry about them. They are God’s chosen people, and surely as He has given to them, He can take away, and has many, many times before. They are continually persecuted for their disobediance to Him, and until they get it right, and understand that Jesus Christ came and died for their sins, they will continue to be persecuted. But you need not worry about them, they are of no threat to you. So you need to put your racist views away, and deal with reality, which is, the muslim faith, who by the way, are like you, they hate the Jews. And they are the ones that want you dead. Not the Jews. Get it straight, and quit being a racist.

          • http://sparkysma@earthlink.net Penny R. Freeman

            Paul, what is your problem? You want to blame the Jews for America’s problems, where are your facts? Do you even know one Jewish person or is all your garbage just prejudice? I knew years ago there was that kind of hatred for Jews in this country just like the prejudice against blacks was more prevalent years ago than now. I had no idea people who were as out of control as you in their views still existed. No, I’m not Jewish, but all the remaining relatives on my father’s side of my family are-all distant cousins. My father’s mother was Jewish and his father was Presbyterian. I was raised in a Presbyterian church and have attended Jewish, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, and Catholic services over the years. Who were the most welcoming to strangers in their congregation? Jews. You sir need to get off your prejudice and look at life the way it is, not through the eyes of someone who has chosen one group to hate. If you want to know why this country is spiralling down, you need to look at the way WE THE PEOPLE have ignored the greedy politicans and allowed them to make themselves an elitist class and to rob this country at every turn if it works to their advantage politically. And you need to understand that progressives/socialists/Marxists and our dear president and secretary of state one-world government people are the cause of such strife in this country. Why is it when there’s a financial issue it’s always the Jews that caused it to people like you Paul? If you’re dumb enough to believe that all the financial problems in this world were caused by Jews, I guess you think labor unions and their bosses, all corrupt politicians, and all these government subsidized programs that constantly rob us of more and more of our tax dollars are all Jewish. You need to get beyond prejudice Paul. There’s no excuse for anyone harboring that kind of hatred for any person or group. Sure I get upset and angry about current events, and I do everything I can to correct my own situation and help my children. And I also make every politician who will take an email or phone call even from someone outside their state well aware that I am watching what they are doing and I will not support the ones who do not support and defend our Constitution which is what they pledged to do when they took office. Get involved Paul and make your government representatives aware you are watching their every move and their office is at stake if they don’t live up to their pledge! You don’t solve anything or reach the root of any problem by yelling out prejudicial statements like the ones you threw out. All you are doing is trying to stir hatred with your statements and pointing fingers just like all the politicians have been doing. It makes more sense to me to work to find a solution rather than to constantly be placing blame. Get involved and make a positive, not a hate-filled prejudicial, difference.

          • Virg

            Me and our Lord Jesus Christ agree with you. He says at Revelation 2:9:

            “I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.”

            This precisely describes the Zionist “Jews” who pretend to be something they are not! Neither are they Semites! Their ancestors were Mongols and Huns. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (which they claim is a forgery) tells of their plans to conquer the world. They are liars, thieves, murderers, pedophiles and everything evil that you can think of. They take an oath called the Kol Nidre to repent of any oath they make, thereby abolishing their oath. Hence, their word cannot be trusted.

          • Bruce D.

            Jew hatred is what is taught in conspiracy books and Paul more than likely has been doing a lot of reading. Modern day colleges are responsible for Marxism becoming mainstream as is the mainstream media and democrat party. Also Rockafeller was not Jewish as many claim and so desperarely want to believe and want others to believe.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Pete from down under:

            There will always be those among us who hate the Jews, as there always has been. I think that is part of God’s punishment of His people for turning their back on His Son Jesus Christ.

            The Nobel Prize no longer has ANY crditbility in my view since they awarded a prize to Albore the gobal warming fraud and Little Bary Soetoro the anti-America half-breed Kenyan constitutional interloper who has done NOTHING other than agitate.

          • Void1972

            Paul
            These so called “Jews” that you speak of, are anything but.
            I know of the frustration you have, because these Anti-Christ that control the world, like Soros, Oppenheim, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg and many others only use the religion to hide behind as they get away with the greatest sin in human history.
            These are the people that created Hitler, and sacrificed millions of their own, so the word “anti-semitism” would be as powerful as it is.
            With that power, now they can rob, rape and pillage the entire world, and if you speak about it, you are labeled a “racist” or “anti-semite”.
            These are the people behind the “New World Order”, and “One World Government”.
            These are the creators of Communism, CFR, NAACP, ACLU, Unions and every corrupt organization in America.
            Please read the book, “To Eliminate The Opiate”, by a Rabbi Marvin Antlemann” to understand who and what these evil people are.
            They are JINO, and are anything but Jewish.
            God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

          • http://smalltimebiggoverment Linda

            Paul, I realize that nothing will change your heart or mind, because they’re hate filled and you are Proud of your Disgusting thoughts that you have spued. You believe you are right but unfortunetly you are not intellighent enough to know right from wrong, please don’t take this as a sign of letting you off the hook, people have choices and you’ve chosen ignorance to live by..

          • dulceb

            Sir, you are forgetting that a Jew invested his money and backing into a revolutionary general named George Washington. With his financial help, our nation was born.
            Please take your hate to a place where it will be counted as a virtue. There are many Middle Eastern countries to choose from at this point.
            As a Christian in a Christian Nation, I will stand by Israel as the Bible dictates.
            You are welcome to leave at any time. May you find a place to succor all this hate and find it has eaten you alive and done nothing to those you have hated.

          • Alan

            Ok folks, read Revelations 3:9 and find out what Paul is talking about. The Jews who say they are Jewish but really aren’t, e.g. George Soros, Anothony Weiner, Hitler, Trotsky, Lenin, et al. I was sitting around with a group of Canadian and American Jews recently and they agreed that these people listed in the afore mentioned verse is exactly who the Bible is refering to. Keep pulling your heads out of the sand the World really is a scary place!

          • Joseph

            Paul is not ant-isemitic, he’s anti-zionist. Zionism should not be equated with Judaism. The contemptible treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government is supported and approved of by most Israeli Jews but not by all Jews. There are some Jews who are totally opposed to Zionism and to Israel’s policies in the occupied territories of the West Bank. Here are three websites which express this position:

            Zionism is … racist, it is nationalist, and it is Biblically inspired (rather than spiritually inspired). Being a fundamentalist movement, Zionism is not categorically different from Nazism. Only when we understand Zionism in its nationalist and racist context will we begin to comprehend the depth of its atrocities.

            http://www.serendipity.li/zionism.htm

        • steve

          Reagan took the credit for the fall of the iron curtain while Gorbachev took the risks, he also closed the mental health system adding that burden to the prison system.
          When waitresses and other minimum wage earners get taxed on their tips while the more successful get billion dollar bonuses tax free I find it hard to want to give them even more tax breaks,the accountants THEY can afford will continue to find every conceivable tax loophole anyway. Lower income citizens HAVE to spend their money and therefore recycle it into the economy while higher income citizens will just buy more gold and stash it away in some tax haven.
          As a former British citizen I am saddened to see this nation hurling itself towards an elitist system comparable to the old royalty of europe where the rich just keep getting richer on the backs of the common man.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            What do you expect, when this country has been taken over by a bunch of greedy lawyers. They have screwed up politics, have broken our legal system, and its all in the pursuit of them collecting more and more money. Thats all lawyers care about anymore and they have no qualms about selling our country for their own gain. And when money becomes your God, you will be dealt with sooner or later, and as our country has allowed our leaders to be money seeking greedy lawyers, our country is paying for it. Lawyers. Used to be a reputable profession. Now they are the scourage of the earth, and they will go down in history as being exactly as the Pharisee’s in the Bible were. And thats not a good thing.

          • Bruce D.

            It is sad Steve that people like you come to this country and want to impose a Marxist ideology over the rest of us. If you read yesterdays post the rich or top 1% make 11% of the income per year and pay 22% of the taxes. You have the same oportunity to become rich even as a waiter. You must save 10% of your earnings and invest in something profitable. If you do not want to put forward the effort you do not deserve anymore. Also you miss the point of Bob’s post. The cause of your failure in life is not because the government is not confiscating wealth as Carl Marx and progressives suggest. The biggest danger to the poor and the middle class is public debt which increases the money supply and causes inflation. British cry out for Marxist socialism which they have had for years and that had is now coming to a head and leading to their demise. Socialism cannot survive on confiscation of wealth because soon there are no more wealthy. Sooner or later it always comes down to increasing the money suppy and inflation.

        • juswonderin

          check out the Bilderberg Group & the Bohemian Grove!

          • MikeN

            I started reading a book called “The Creature from Jeckyl Island” and it makes my stomach turn to see what the federal reserve is really doing to this country and the world too. It’s a real eyeopener.

        • http://www.yahoo.com George

          If you are giving credit to Reagan for destroying an already failing Russia then you must also give him the credit for doing the same to America. With the extensive spending and debting of future generations of Americans to satisfy a need for personal glory in history as most President’s are wont to do.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Reagan saved our hiney, and we enjoyed the most prosperous times of all time under him, which carried over through Bush 1, and for 6 of Clinton’s 8 years before Slick Willy’s doing nothing caught up with us, while he stood there and took credit for all the things Reagan instituted and did to get the economy rolling. The democrats screwed it up, and they continue to this day to screw up the economy, as fact-fully witnessed by a 10 percent unemployement rate, up from 4.5 when they took over. Nice job dems.

        • tdupuy

          Here are some facts for Val.
          Overall, it was Reagan’s taxs cuts and deregulation of much of the economy that restored unprecedented prosperity to America for almost 20 years. Prior to Reagan, government regulation of the airlines made air travel too expensive for most Americans. Reagan’s deregulation made air travel affordable for almost everyone. Reagan also lessened the impact of the S&L crisis by refusing to continue Carter’s disastrous Community Restoration Act (CRA).

          Clinton later resurrected CRA and forced banks to make loans to non-creditworthy borrowers to make house ownership accessible (but not affordable) to everyone, regardless of ability to make payments. He then used threats from Rubin and Reno to enforce CRA and pressured Fannie and Freddy (Franklin Raines, et al) to scheme with the banks to bundle subprime loans with some good loans so that they good back the bad loans without them showing up on their books. The banks then sold those bundles to unsuspecting investors, including many investment banks.

          That, plus Greenspan’s easy money, plus Barney Frank and Chris Dodd stone walling Bush’s attempts to rein in Fannie and Freddie are what caused the housing bubble which started the current crisis. Bush’s bailouts and Obama’s stimulus and giveaways to unions, special interests and crony capitalists have only extended the crisis and put our country on the precipice of financial disaster with irresponsible deficit spending and no plan to correct it.

          • http://NaturalMedicalHealth.com Doug Stetson

            Yes Dodd and Frank caused the banks to give the loans to people who couldn’t pay back the loans but it wasn’t just them. The Fed also caused the Home Market to crash and for that they should be closed.

            If the interest rate had remained low, many could have paid their loans but the Fed was worried about inflation which never came and they are ONLY supposed to raise rates IF inflation. But they raised the interest rates 15 straight times causing any equity in these properties to vanish and trigger the automatic rewrite clause to full payments including principle, interest and taxes which these borrowers never expected to pay and especially that fast. The Fed has cost us homeowners all our savings and yet we don’t try to stop it! Has anyone put an amount of money lost to us homeowners? This combined with Obama is our national tragedy. Our states should be suing the Fed to close them down as they have an office you can serve them at. When we gave up homes, the tax income has dropped until our houses recover if ever. In the mean time people are still losing their homes and no one does anything. Are we men or mice as someone said?

        • SMSgt Z retired Nam 68

          The collapse of the oil market brought down the not the actor

        • Bob C.

          He’s right about Reagan, he went into office with a national debt in the billons, and left 8 years later with it over 3 trillion.
          government grew substantially under Reagan’s watch.
          he talked a good game, but funded the “greatest economy of moderm history” on the backs of the yet to be born.
          all a matter of record.

        • jerry mcdonald

          your hero reagan,caused the problems we have now.Hincley should have used a larger calibre gun.He started free trade,globalization,just in time inventory and we will all soon burned by it.Anyone that thinks he can compete with $1.00 an hour wages is ignorant.They all took an oath to the constituition of the US, not the imf,world bank,united nations or the federal reserve.I sure didn’t spend the social security money or the medicare money that is broke.

      • Eileen Pressler

        Eat the rich, eh? Excuse me but, it is the rich they are counting on obtain most of the taxes to pay for their “remaking” of America. Almost all of this bills that Mr. Obama(NOT president, until he is required to prove he is eligible to even run for office) almost all of these bills have huge expensive regulations about almost every area of our lives that will add large increases in the average citizens cost of living. His, joke of a tax cut which will only last a short time is not worth the beurocratic red-tape cost. The rich already pay, about 90% of the taxes that the IRS sucks out of the citizens. The people who don’t pay taxes thhink this is wonderful to EAT THE RICH. Well, who do you think has been paying for your welfare benefits and low-income houseing,etc. Once the rich are EATEN what will you do? Those who are benefiting from welfare and other entitlements will be suffering because of the increase in cost of everything due to these goofy green laws, and regulating who and how food can be grown and on and on. This whole deal has been set up by the lefty liberals to gain control of America. They do not care about the poor, the middle-class or anyone but themselves. The fact is that they are wealthy and I am sure they have figured out how to get out of paying much of their taxes. In fact, if you have paid attention, most of MR. O’s picks for various jobs on his crew of dirty cohorts have been shown up as tax cheats.

        Please, think about this. If you want more income, more goods, up until now U.S. has been the land of opportuni, where anyone can succeed by hard work. That is why there are so many immigrants who own motels and other businesses. They came here, worked hard at more than one low-paying job, saved their money and step by step became well-off and successful. They do not deserve to be EATEN.
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        • Lisa

          Perfectly spoken. You hit the nail on the head and I appreciate you taking the time to speak your mind and set the record straight. Eat the rich? Doesn’t this person know what happened to Marie Antionette when she said the French people could, “Eat cake?” She got her head cut off. I am so sick of the liberals thinking the rich are to blame. How many jobs have been created by poor people? Not very many. Obama is counting on the rich to finance his crazy political schemes to triple the deficit. Well, I for one am going to fight with all I have against his tax and spend policies. Keep up the great commentary.

          • Marilyn

            For those who are unaware, Let Them Eat Cake, by Marie was derogatory statement. Cake was not the cake as we know it. Cake was the white substance that formed on the wine barrels. So, Let them Eat Crap is more what Marie was saying. Dictionary: a block of compacted or congealed matter

          • Fed Up

            Sorry Marilyn, but in my History classes we did cover Marie Antoinette and I WAS curious as to why she would say that. The explanation was NOt that cake is not cake…
            Marie Antoinette was SO out of touch with the people over whom she ruled that her knee-jerk response to being told that the people were starving was based on the fact that cake was ALWAYS available to her and when she was hungry she would simply clap her hands and demand that servants bring her cake and tea.
            This can be compared to the liberals being SO out of touch with the heart of our country that they have the audacity to say our popular sentiment is that of “EAT THE RICH!”
            One can only hope that they receive a similar punishment to that of Marie Antoinette…
            Good Job Lisa!

          • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

            Too bad more do not in practice agree with you, Lisa.

        • jesse

          Through the implementation of tax shelters, loopholes and other nifty little tricks, the rich pay less than the average joe. Why do you think banksters pay their employees though bonuses and stock derivatives? They do it because they feel they are too good to pay their fair share. And don’t give me any doo-doo that they feel like second class citizens, like so many rich people have the audacity to say. The truth is: is that they are greedy and have forgotten their civic duties to the union. Their international stature has led them to forsake the usa, for profits abroad.
          Only a spoiled, rich, silver-spoon-fed twit could go about riding in a limo while complaining woe is me.
          And let’s talk about Reagan, that silly little twit was not sane enough to wash my car. Only reason supply siders got their way during his administration was because he was too ditzy to speak out against the elites in his administration. But hay, what you expect when you pick rich snobs, in which most came from Wall Street and stately compounds.
          And for any one questioning my sources, I’ve read Don Regan’s memoirs, end of prosperity, Bob Woodward’s’ veil, and many other economic books. A book that everyone should read is the world is flat. In it you will find out how America’s elite have found new, hungrier, cheap labor from abroad, and how they have no quibbles about selling out America to oppressed, totalitarian ran people half way across the globe. I would be willing to wager that if they tried that s4it while the espionage act was enforced they would have been hanged, no questions asked.
          Now I know I Have stumbled into a conservative echo chamber, but let me tell all of you. The reason America is collapsing is because every American wants to be wealthy and is willing to take on debt to see its folly realized.
          I just want a middle class job. One without the stress, deceitfulness, and is not coveted by all others. Call me un-ambitious, but I see it as rational. Do people not know that the only way that some people become bloody rich are for others to go hungry?

          And to end my reply I have to ask all you deregulators out there, what is next do we dismantle our police force, fire fighters, and other government services. Or better yet let’s find our police officers in the prisons, like we promote our regulators from wall street. My point is that regulation should be seen no differently than crime fighting, you don’t hire from the sector you are policing.

          • Deb09

            I am completely with you on this, Jesse

          • TIME

            Jesse, If you had a bloody clue about anything then the bent dribble you posted, such waste materials would not be staining this page.

            Your post screams of nothing but – ENVY.
            Get off your lazy fat butt and work and then you may find that those of us who have made it had to work very hard to get to where we are. As in no one gave us anything.

            I can’t fathom that your small amount of gray matter can grasp this but the CRAP from the News media daily is worth about the same as a rotten road apple’s, or are you just one more of the Marxist that thinks I owe you something for your being so special.

            You tell me all about these alledged breaks when you pen your first Tax Check for seven Plus figures year after year. I have done so for 30 years, as in I work now until September just to pay TAX’s so your theory is bloody well flawed.
            But then again not knowing the real facts as your mindless dribble has clearly shown, what can anyone really expect other than one more little “GREEN ENVY Twinkie.”

            And I didn’t even cover the cost of doing business of what keeps going up and up each year, of what cuts into your profits that have been dropping like a rock in a still lake.

            And perhap I should ask you buffoons who have never penned such a Tax check just what is it I get for all my money I have paid in?
            As I see it a BIG FAT ZERO.

          • BenDover

            I agree with you Jess.

          • michelle

            You are a silly man for thinking that the rich are to blame. you need rich to feed the poor. there will always be people who are less than under-achievers and can be helped by the over achievers. all the system works well if left alone. people who are jealous of the over achievers can have the same as the over achievers but are unwilling to do what it takes to get it-so why should they have more? because they cry about it? the system of merit works fine in this country. the legitimately disabled are cared for. the lazy want something for nothing-why feed into that ego mindset? it is a recipe for disaster and economic ruin-which is what i think the point of this admin.

          • Paul

            The Rich And the Middle Class Owe nothint to the Government as they were only Given the taxes that are in the law of the Constitution.” Communism States ” Each according to his ABILITY, ” ” Each according to YOUR NEED,(They Need Your Money For their Lavish Life Styile Pay, And You And You have the Ability as a Slave to Pay them) That is Communism
            It is Anti America
            The Anti american Jew Lobby came up with the First Sales Tax and The Income Tax,it was not utill Rooesvelt Planned and Got the U.S int a Communist Planned war Did Americans not in Corporations Pay income Taxes
            The Law states There are Lawful Taxes that Congress Can Collect Taxes, Duties Impost and Excise No direct Taxes,Socalist Security,and Income Taxes is a Diect Tax as is Communist applies Income Tax on Labor and are Both Zionist Anti American Jewish Theft
            If they are a Corporatin They must Payu for the limited Loiabilty But If You are Not You Owe them Nothing
            Last Alll Credit and Your Sell out Government Borrows Goes to Them in Trillions of Interest they Collect and what Your Government Borrows and They All Live off of the interest and the Money You receive as pay that you Call Money

          • Bob

            Jesse When I was in school back in the 50s anyone who made over $100,000. paid 89% in taxes. But they had deductions that could lower their taxes. Reagan eventually lowered their taxes to 39% and took away most of the deductions. That’s why there are so many Billionaires today. The little guy has nothing left that he can deduct.

          • Granny Mae

            jesse,

            There are a lot of rich that pay their fair share but there are a lot like the chosen ones of Obama that don’t even bother to look for loop holes they just pay nothing ! Beyond that when they are picked for holding an office their cheating ways are overlooked and they are given the appointments inspite of their cheating ! When they cheat on their taxes they are cheating all of us. I have never been rich in my entire life but I pay my taxes in full all the time ! I look at this administration and all I see are liers cheats and theives from the president on down. Michele said for the first time in her adult life she was proud to be an american, well I’m sorry to say that for the first time in my adult life I am ashamed to say I am American and represented by such low lifes as occupy the white house at this time ! I was really expecting a dignity and a raising up of black america when he took office but the actions and lack of etticut the erogance and flamboyant partying and vacations and golfing when this country is in the shape it is in makes me sick. The bowing and lack of knowing how to respect other leaders is disgusting ! They have brought nothing to the White house but have offered nothing of substance to black america ! As for brains in this man ! Give me a break ! His brains are in the wrong area ! He is being run by Soros and because of that he has so much time on his hands that all he can do is to stay out of trouble by golfing, partying and taking vacations. Soros and the szars run this country and they are doing their best to run it into the ground. So far they are doing a good job of it. I feel Obama is not a citizen of this country and has no business in office. I can only hope that with the elections this Tuesday there will be enough decent people elected that they will be able to immediately begin impeachment proceedings against Obama !

          • Granny Mae

            Time ,

            You said it all. Good for you. I’m finding a lot of idiots on this time that don’t know their azz from their elbow ! Seems like they just came out of the woodwork all of a sudden ! Having been in business for years myself I can see these guys have no clue as to the taxes we have to pay and still figure out how to stay in business. They have no clue as to how we spent 18 and 20 hours a day working to make it. They go to work and put in 8 or 10 hours and think they are overworked. If we put in just 8 or 10 hours you can bet they wouldn’t be drawing a paycheck ! My husband put in long, long hours and so did I and still we had to find the time to raise 5 boys and these guys complain and think they know it all ! They got all the answers ! Ya right ! Sure shows their intelligent huh ?

          • Granny Mae

            jesse,

            People like you are dangerous simply because you read books and think you know it all ! You have never put into practice what you think and yet you think you have all the answers ! You just want your little 9to5 job with no hassels? Good stay there and the rest of the world will be safe ! Go read some more books and expand your brain power and then come back and tell the rest of us how much more you know ! What an idiot !

          • Granny Mae

            Another thing, You have about as much gray matter as your friend Paul !

          • Deb

            “The truth is: is that they are greedy and have forgotten their civic duties to the union.”

            Spoken like a true comrade!

        • Arden Schwartz

          Eileen, when you form your opinions do you choose not to use an open-mind and critical heart? Do you investigate both sides of an issue with your believes already formed? Nothing good ever comes when someone is hurt by anothers lack of empathy or greed. WASP’s will reap what they have sown, you cannot enter someones home,killing land owners who will not assimulate, bringing many races here so they can make money off their hard work and treating them as second class or less than human while using all available resources and never putting anything back. Capitalistic, greedy, white anglo saxon protestant’s will destoy themselves and it appears it might be sooner than later.

          • TIME

            Arden Black,
            Well you exposed yourself as a good little Marxist. Have you thought about moving to say China, oh no they figured it out that system just don’t work.

          • michelle

            pretty pathetic i would say arden. do what it takes and you can work your way up to being wealthy too, my dad did it as an immigrant, so stop your pitty party.

        • eyeswideopen

          Eileen, two newspapers have announcements, since his parents didn’t know that he would run for President, don’t you think your luney logic is just that, luney logic? http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamasbirth.php
          Now you would have a case against John McCain as he isn’t listed in the military hospitals registration book and the Panama Canal was not a US possession, we leased it for 99 years. It took an act of Congress in April of 2008 to allow McCain to run for office. You birthers are funny.

          • JC

            What’s your point? Two wrongs make it right?
            I don’t think so. Send Obama packing.

          • Fed Up

            When I followed the link you gave it went nowhere but the home page of this extreme looking website that attempts to explain everything from the Kennedy assassination to whether or not Hillary Clinton is a lesbian. After doing a serach ON THAT HOKEY LOOKING WEBSITE, I gather that you are referring to this: http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/breaking-shocker-military-judge-says-evidence-could-be-embarrassment-obama, which is a THEORY posited by someone who admits he does not KNOW anything. His theory states that Mr. Obama, (not the POTUS until he can prove he is eligible), is a victimized illegitimate product of his mother’s loose lifestyle in the 1960′s. Well, as conveniant as this may be, if it were true, We The People would STILL have the right to know that he IS in fact eligible to actually TAKE the job that a majority of those who voted erroneously chose him for.

          • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

            We remember the other fake birth certificate president, Chester Arthur, and the damage he did, back when it was much less critical!

        • 45caliber

          Who are the rich who are being eaten? It certainly isn’t the rich politicians. Most don’t pay any taxes at all. Neither do the real rich – those who make millions of dollars a year.

          The “rich” the government talks about are actually the middle class who cannot afford to hire tax attorneys to give them the best loop holes and defend them if IRS calls.

          An economist not long ago stated that if EVERY person who makes over $50,000 a year pays everything above $50,000 in tax it would run the government for 9 DAYS.

          Don’t be confused by what the government calls the “rich”. They are talking about anyone they can squeeze for money.

          • michelle

            BS the ones who don’t make millions a year don’t pay taxes..you people don’t know your butt from a hole in the ground. my dad writes a heafty check to the government. he cannot enjoy the so called millions he makes because he is punished for his hard work. so maybe one day he will decide his hard work and labor is not worth it anymore and he fires everyone he supplies a job to, cancels all of their insurance and becomes selfish and consumes what he has left on himslef. i have never seen such thankless greedy people than those who would love to see rich people fail-what idiots! As soon you succeed in destroying them, and they are gone, you are toast. Can’t squeeze blood out of turnip.

          • Richard Pawley

            Michelle: We have spent so much money since the 111th Congress took over that it is now impossible to pay it back without big inflation no matter who gets elected in seven weeks. Our corporations have the second highest taxes on earth, 46 percent of our population pay no taxes, and those who make over 250,000 a year pay something like 94% or more of all taxes. It seems impossible that we didn’t even need income tax until the Democratic president Wilson agreed to back the then mostly foreign owned Federal Reserve Bank and Congress signed off (probably didn’t even read the bill like he health care bill or the finance reform bill or the new ones that the senate is trying to pass to eventually do away with private homes and SB510 that will even give federal control over any gardens we might have to grow some of our own food). This socialist congress wants total control of everything yet even Castro who got rid of all the rich in Cuba 50 years ago admits that Communism hasn’t worked in Cuba. Of course everybody makes the same $20 a month and food is practically free. Even the Marxists in Congress are not going to like what they have helped create in this country. I’d tell your dad to pray about it if he needs direction. He needs to prepare his employees for the really hard times that are coming. Just kicking out the 111th Congress in 7 weeks is not going to stop the inflation their squandering of money for the past four years is going to cause but if we don’t replace them it is going to be a whole lot worse. Of course the new people will be blamed, in fact we never seem to blame those who do the spending: Congress. We always blame the president whoever he is but presidents come and go and only congress goes on forever or until they are replaced. You dad needs to learn all that is really going on so he can prepare his employees for the really hard times ahead. I hope he is a man of prayer because that is the only way anyone is going to survive this decade once things really get bad. We should be tightening our belt but Congress is just squandering all they can get their hands on. You dad might not believe it but it would take more than all the gold in the US Treasury just to pay the deficits that the 111th Congress has run up since they took over in 2006, not the national debt, just the defict! As a result food and anything imported is eventually going to triple in price. It is not going to get better as a businessman probably knows but it is difficult to say exactly when this will all hit the fan. I have sources that say within the year. Some believe by 2012 you won’t recognize our country and I quoted a much wiser person than myself in my first book in 2006 that what was coming would make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park. That was before I had ever heard of Obama but I had heard of Congress. Wasn’t it Mark Twain who said, “No man’s purse is safe while Congress is in session”. Vote them all out in seven weeks and maybe we can slow this all down but they have done to much damage to stop it entirely. Tell you dad to hang in there but to get ready for really hard times and I would suggest you learn all about non-perishable foods. God bless you and may He bless us all because no one else is going to do so.

        • Granny Mae

          Eileen Pressler,

          Thank you for your comments. It is good to hear from someone that has common sense and a brain in their head. Unlike the biggots I see on here so much ! Your comments are refreshing ! I agree.

          • juswonderin

            check out the Bilderberg Group & the Bohemian Grove!Richard Pawley: You make sense, you’re informed & it seems that you’re experienced in the business world. How great that you also depend on a God that loves & not hates! With all the anger & hatred I read on this site & many others…they’re all the same. I’m a retired 67 yr old who raised my son without his father’s input & worked 12 hrs a day, was paid little & sometimes had to take a second job. I have no “nest egg” or anything of value except my God & my family. I depend totally on my social security that I paid into since I started working at 15, when they first started taking out for social security, & then later for medicare. I would love to find a good job now that my son is
            grown & have grandkids & works hard to make a life for him & his wife. I was never able to “put aside for a rainy day” but I feel that I’ve put in my share of the taxes, hard work, honesty & love for my God & my country. All this mess was started many years ago with the ambition of greedy men/women that wants the whole world to come together under the U.N. and it’s just happening a lot faster than I expected. As Americans, we need to come together and stand for our country, before it’s too late. We really don’t have the time to squabble over who is right & who is wrong. UNITED WE STAND ~ DIVIDED WE FALL!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I agree totally. Im I guess what is considered middle class, at around 50 grand a year. Well, democrats call me rich because they want to up my taxes, but to those of us who live in the real life, Im middle class. And I live comfortably, and want for nothing. I give 10 percent of my pay away each week, as just a starting point of my charitable giving. And there is no way I would ever demonize what is considered the rich. I watch them get punished for their success, and get taxed and taxed more and more. I watched a great man here in my town that died, that owned several car dealerships. He worked hard and fairly for over 50 years in this business. He gave millions to charities and youth sports and such, and was an all around nice family guy. But he dies, and they make his heirs pay like 4 million dollars inheritance tax, to punish them for him being successful. That is a bunch of bull crap, to say the least. He already paid taxes on that money once. And if you add up all the taxes he paid, plus the taxes he generated on car sales and employee payroll taxes, it would be extraordinary. And all big business in this country, that are successful, pay more and more, unless they are failures like GM and Chrysler, then they get billions given to them to reward them for failing. Its not right. And as we watch successful business after business get tired of being unfairly taxed, and leaving the country for more tax friendly environments, you would think the democrats would open their blind eyes and see that their tax the successful is a stupid, stupid thing. Meanwhile, they expand government, and tax us all more and more to pay for it. Ive got an idea. Lets start rewarding success again, and leave the successful business alone that are doing things right, and stop rewarding failures by bailing them out with our money. Stop the handout wagon to people who fail to look for a job, because its easier to sit on their butt and have the government reward them for this bad behavior. We have lost our way, where wrong has become right, and right has become wrong.

          • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

            Very True. And then the Press sees no problems, either, so, unreported, nobody knows and is warned. Yea for the Liberal Press! They do their part with vigor!

      • Michael

        Val, you do not have the whole story. This whole thing started in 1977 with the Community Revitalization Act (CRA). This act did not cause the problem, it just opened to door for it to happen. Later, Bill Clinton put more pressure on the mortgage lenders to make more money available to lower income people so they could buy their own homes. In the early 2000′s, some of the Republicans began to see what was happening and called for regulation of Freddie and Fannie, but it was blocked by none other than Barney Frank, I have a copy of the video. The message here is that both political parties are responsible for making it possible for the greedy Wall Streeters to make the problem as big as it is today. Our government is totally screwed up, dysfunctional. We need a thorough house and senate cleaning, that is the only solution to our present problems, and the only way to minimize future problems. If you are questioning what I have said, do you not wonder why Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are so quite? Who do you suppose was pushing for the CRA? They do not want any attention on this problem.

        • Doug

          Michael, that video should be on ‘youtube.com’ titled ‘Barney Frank’s Fannie Problem’, or something more clever. I’m sure Barney won’t mind getting a few hits. From the Entertainment News media, it appears that Frank is the knight on a white horse attempting to solve the problem. I don’t know how to post a video on ‘youtube.com’ but I bet someone reading this email does.

          • Granny Mae

            The only problem with kicking out all the oldies in congress is that we will have all newby’s and no one has a clue as to what they will really be facing. It is sure to be worse than we even know ! I look at it as another form of not reading the bill !!!

        • Bob

          Michael, you are 100% correct. I have seen a video and have read articles by bank officers addressing the “blackmail” used by the Federal Government employed to make the banks disregard good lending practices to meet the fed’s goals for poor risk loans. What is worst is the entire mess started with the seating of the 41st Congress when the promise was made by the Democratic Party that it will do whatever it takes to gain control in America. America has been brainwashed slowly brainwashed by the Party until today no one including the MSM questions it or its mouthpiece.

          • Granny Mae

            Bob,

            They have even brainwashed their own people in the party ! Their own voters ! I know a lot of voters from the Dems. That have no clue ! They won’t believe what is right before their eyes !

        • michelle

          Yes, I saw that video od Barnet Frank too, and then later I can’t believe that same man talked right out of the other side of his mouth blaming someone else for the issue when it was he who pressed the issue to begin with!!!…what an incompetent!!!Moreover, the Dems are stupid for blindly putting the incumbents back in. Don’t they study????

          • Hope For American

            Michelle, all democrats talk out the other side of their mouths because they know nothing but how to lie. Take Hillary Clinton, for example, when Alex Jones questioned her about being a Bilderberg groupy. Her response was, ‘I don’t know what you’re talking about’ and shrugged him off. He has the tape of her, along with many other Dems, including Rick Perry, going into a Bilderberg meeting, and I’ve seen the tape. What upsets me is this thing about Maxine Waters, and not one Democrat or Republican will stand up to that wicked witch. Our country goes after so-called dictators for human rights violations, but that woman has been enslaving an entire community and kept it poor for 30 years. She yells, she’ll do whatever it takes to help ‘my people’. Sure she will by keeping them ‘slaves’ and dependent of the federal government. Only a slave driver will claim a human being as their own, and not look at the consequences she has bestowed upon an entire community. Her people includes four – she, her husband, and their two wallets. That woman should be sitting in prison and not representing any portion of human beings in this country.

        • Flyguy

          I agree with your thinking; keep up the god work

      • Marcia

        Obama and ACORN in Chicago went to Citibank borad meeting and invaeded and and stopped the meeting and demanded sub prime mortages for the poor in Chicago. they would not leav the meeting until it all was signed and this is part of our financial crisis. This ground is Democartic and subversive.

      • Mary

        I think you better get with the program Val…How could I miss that Republicans were in power for the last 30 years? Because they haven’t been..where have you been?????? Congress is in power and that has been Democrates. Now we have no checks and balances and no one to stop the liberals which by the way is another name for socialism. All you really have to do is to read the book of truth..(the bible) and you will see what’s happening now and the end results. I have fact to back that up. You need to open your eyes before it’s too late!!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Anyone these days who tells you they are democrat, then dont expect them to tell the truth. It is not in them. What is in them, is to push their agenda, for their own benefit and politcal party, and they do not care if they cripple the country doing it. Just as Obama and his Chicago thugs saw fit, to use our hard earned tax dollars, and pay lawyers to defend terrorist we caught trying to kill us. Isnt that amazing. This is what the left does, all in the agenda of political correctness. They kiss our enemies butt, thinking that will make them like us, when anyone with any brains at all knows that will never happen. They have vowed to kill, and will die trying to do it. Yet the left wants to play ball with them. Its sick. They are a bunch of anti-American’s who are bringing this country to its knee’s, and just as when Clinton was president, our enemy is now embolded again to attack us, as they know the left wing liberals will do nothing about it. Just as Clinton did nothing. We are now the laughing stock of our enemies. Thanks dems.

      • WC

        Just how do you profess that Democrats are conservative hot dog? This should be good.

      • B-Man

        Ok Val, you want the truth? I work for clients that are part of the top 5% in the world. I will just give you only one example. There are about according to him over 10 million people in this country that are in the top 5% income brackets. He showed me his estimated quarterly income tax bill and after all his taxable, per IRS legal deductions his check was over $500,000.00 and he pays that every quarter. The anointed one wants to increase that up to 8% more. These people pay 83% of all the taxes collected by the IRS. Why ? We all live in this country just like them and we all work and enjoy the roads, our secure military protection, are police and firefighters. Is it not fair that we should’nt pay our persentage based on our size incomes into supporting our system? All of the jobs in this country are created by the top 10% via investment programs, developers, lending institutions, and they in turn hire Architects, or contractors manufactures to produce their ideas and the trickle down employment reaches the middle class who have small businesses and hire thousands of people to perform the work. That gives everyone the same opportunity to become wealthy themselves if they want to work hard enough. In 1991 (2) developers filed bancrupcy on me, and found myself $1.5 million in debt. I chose to work it off and it took 8 yrs. to pay every dime back. My company has (until recently ) grown to 20 employees and bought a home and paid cash for cars, put my kids through college. Only in America and only in a free enterprise sociaty can this happen. Socialism will not allow anyone to dream or expand. This man That I was talking about , just one man had 16 major projects on the books to do, that would have employed 10,000 people for at least 5-6 yrs. All those people in turn would spend their incomes back into the system. Now take that guy X 10 million? We could have had alot of people working and being productive but no. This guy sells broke people on the premis that wealthy people are evil and we need to eat them alive. What a bunch of idiots. It’s some of those broke people that work on his projects and he provide the very income they enjoy and then they bad mouth him. What’s wrong with this picture? How are we supposed to get ahead if they don’t spend and invest in the system so we can work? He said to me the other day– ” The consencis is consistant among my peers, We are not going to spend any more money as long as this socialist wants to take almost all of it and give it to people that will not work for it. This country is not about hand-outs. It’s about giving a hand up. Here is your fishing pole, im not catching fish for you.” We do not have a person in this administration that believes in our proccess or our system of economics. They just want total control of of us. They are taking everything over and socializing our country and No country can prosper under socialism. Only a few at the top and evryone else will be under control and broke. If you disagree, they will silence you. We are loosing our voice under these people and America will be gone in a couple of years.

        • Dennis P

          Very well put my man. At 65 I have been through all the ups and downs of life but still belive in my country, until recently. I to belive we have a short time left to live in a free country. The pace of destruction is at a pace that makes ones head explode. Each day as events unfold I am convinced that it is to late to undo the damage. My concern is not for myself but for my children, grand children and great grandson. What kind of country will they live in? If the future is to be determined by the young who prefer to “eat the rich” they will be the ones living under the bridges and the elites will rule over them

        • michelle

          Wow, excellently said. the little man better wake up, because when the big man falls-no one eats.

          • Granny Mae

            I have said that for years. If we did away with welfare and undeserving people that are collecting SSI and medicare and medicade we could pay the national debt off a lot sooner! I don’t think that people in Washington have a clue as to how many collect our money undeservingly ! I’m not against helping someone that really needs it but I personally know several that collect and don’t deserve it ! They use BUKO bucks each year. One of them has had a baby on her SSI and has no intention of marrying her boyfriend because then she would have to give up all her income ! So they just live together ! They should cut her off right now ! Another one I know of has had heart surgery on the graciousness of the public ! He is a screw up and has been for most of his life ! The only reason I dodn’t say much about it is because he is a viet nam vet and I feel he deservs his pacemaker simply because he served in that hell hole. He was never the same when he came home ! We owe him that much ! Shoot we could employ thousands of people just to go through the records and find all the dead beats that draw and cut them off. Could do the same thing with dead beat parents too. Most of the other half of those dead beats are drawing food stamps and medicare ! I say parents because now days there are a lot of women out there that are ordered to pay child support and they never do it and get away with it !

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Because the left is full of a bunch of lazy bastards that lie around smoking dope and drinking all day, while refusing to work, because the government sees fit to pay them to stay home, give them food stamps and all kinds of handouts, at the expense of us, the working man, while they demonize the successful. These lazy butts that live on handouts are the ones that should be demonized, because there is no reason what so ever, that over 95 percent of them cannot be working. They just dont want to, its that plain and simple. If I can get a job, then they can also. Ive been through 8 job changes in my life, from business’s closing to moving out of town, and Ive always gotten a job, working for less, and used that to get me by as I applied for others, and moved my way back into the good paying jobs again. But these lazy arse’s think the world owes them a living, and they arent willing to put in the hard work to suceed, and when the government continually rewards failure, most of them think, why should they strive to succeed. Society now has kids striving for mediocrity, instead of excellence. They want to group the smartest kid in with the dumbest kid, and call them all equal, thus punishing the successful student and rewarding the failing student. So just what are these kid’s motivation to succeed then? They have taken that away. Then in the business world, they do the same thing. Walmart is successful, and they are constantly badgered to pay this and pay that, while total failures like GM and Chrysler, are not called on anything, but given billion dollars checks for their failing efforts. This is sick behavior, and it is totally wrong. It has to stop.

          • GunbearerM1G

            And If I recall correctly, Chrysler was bailed out once before by the leadership of Lee Iacocca and a generous grant from the taxpayers

      • Holly

        Excuse me Val but what planet have you been living on?? The Republicans have not been in power for 30 years I’d like to know where you are getting your information. Granted we have had Republican Presidents (Reagan, Bush Sr. & Jr.) but over the past 50 years the Congress has been controlled by Democrats. Are you familiar with the job of the Congress vs the President??? Have you taken an American Gov’t class? I am not saying the Republican’s haven’t made mistakes (see I can do that; something you Democrats can’t seem to do) but your Democratic Congresses have a HUGE part of the blame–that seems to be your main goal here is to blame someone. Look at what YOUR Congress and President are doing now?? Look at the facts b/4 you speak.

        • eyeswideopen

          Holly, he should have said, that during the past 29 years, 20 years have had repub Presidents.

          • michelle

            but remember the deregulation was forced by the hands of a democratically controlled congress.

      • Rustie Cummings

        Val:You said that statements should not be proffered without documentation, I agree. However, when I analyze the last thirty years, if memory serves me correctly, Republicans were in office only twenty of the thirty years. You are correct in thinking that mis-statements and wild rheoteric contribute to the destruction of the writers credibility.

        Additionally, whether you or anyone else has a conservative or liberal bent matters not to me; however, to say that the Democrats is a real mental strech…

        • michelle

          not so. the democratic controlled congress under a republican pres, is what contributed to the deregulation and downfall economically.

      • Rustie Cummings

        Val:You said that statements should not be proffered without documentation, I agree. However, when I analyze the last thirty years, if memory serves me correctly, Republicans were in office only twenty of the thirty years. You are correct in thinking that mis-statements and wild rheoteric contribute to the destruction of the writers credibility.

        Additionally, whether you or anyone else has a conservative or liberal bent matters not to me; however, to say that the Democrats are conservative is a real mental strech…

      • ccba33

        Val,

        Wow! I didn’t realize until now, that if you’re a liberal, you gobble up all the union and liberal talking points as if they’re real. The real estate market started the entire bubble. The legislation of liberals starting with Jimmy Carter and propogated by Bill Clinton enabled folks to buy houses they couldn’t afford. Isn’t that true? Study The Community Reinvestment Act. The name itself should make you wonder what’s underneath the skirt of liberalism. If you believe the free market system caused this real estate market crash, I know for sure you’re not actually informed. You’re mearly taking a position on uninformed emotions.

        Liberal policies have always been the problem, not the solution. Look at our “Stimulis Program”. How much could you stimulate the economy by giving 53 million dollars, or there abouts to the National Endowment of the Arts just for one example? What the hell has that to do with creating jobs and investment in the economy?

        The GW Bush administration 17 times pushed for tougher regulation of Fannie Mae. Chris Dodd, Senate Banking Chairman and Barney Franks declared that this organization was solid, with solid business practices. A year later, Fannie Mae brought down the entire Real Estate Market. Warning 17 times for more regulation of policy that made no business sense doesn’t sound like Republicans wanting to deregulate things so the greedy rich could get richer. It sounds like a warning to me. And so it came to pass, after repeated warnings of insolvency, the collapse finally came. So you can go ahead and blame the evil republicans if you wish, but you’re wrong. The plan and simple fact, is that you just don’t know anything.

        You’ve made the statement that noone has backed up their positions with any proof. I just did. If you have a position that proves me wrong, I’d like to hear it. But you can’t say that Jimmy Carter Administration didn’t start this bad legislation. And, you can’t say Bill Clinton didn’t reinforce the bad legislation. Liberal Utopia was to give everyone a home, no matter if they could afford it or not. How is that good business? How is it that would fly? Where will the money come from to pay the mortgages if they’re made without proof of incomes to pay the mortgages?

        It sounds good to have everyone own a home. But the simple fact is, that it just can’t work. You’re Utopia World sounds great, but I don’t want to pay for people to own a home that can’t pay for it. Sounds like that’s what you want me to do.

        Your Utopia world encourages laziness. Why work hard if you don’t have any money left? Your thoughts about taxing the rich to give to the poor is a fairy tale. Liberals don’t deal in reality is why you are so uninformed and misguided. I would give you odds and bet that you’ve never ran a business. I would also bet you have no money. I would also bet there’s a less than 50% chance you’ve got gainful employment. And if you support the policies of Obama, you’re part of the problem. You blame everything on GW Bush and that’s the reason you won’t accept the fact that Obama is bad for business. You actually think that by over taxing business owners that jobs will suddenly appear. Businessowners aren’t dumb, they will just wait it out and hold on to their money and resist investing in their business and creating jobs, until a business man is running the country again.

        How many poor people in your life have given you gainful employment? They won’t either my liberal friend. Poor people need help. They need jobs. If they decide they want a better lifestyle than being poor, it’s up to them, not the government. This country was built on the Free Market System and it works. The fact that you believe that a system of high taxes and big government will create wealth and a better America, I’d like to remind you of the freedoms you’ll be giving up in the process to make a living and be proud of yourself and create an environment of self reliance and values. That’s what America is all about. If you believe otherwise, I think you’d be better suited in another country, that provides everyting for you.

        If you can find a country that provides everyting for you with big government programs that provides prosperity for all, and do it in an efficient way without anyone at the top cheating it’s people, I’ll give you your island of paradise, by paying your way to wherever that is. In fact, would you take all the liberals who think like you to this utopia with you?

        • Hope For American

          I’m not getting this regulation and deregulation thing from people’s posts. Some say regulation is good – some say it’s bad. The truth is that regulation against any coporation is bad – regulation against the federal government is good. Regulation is supposed to mean that, for example, the pharmaceutical company isn’t supposed to make deadly medications that kill people, our water isn’t supposed to have deadly chemicals in it, our air is clean and we can breath, and our food isn’t filled with pesticides. The regulations by our federal government is the opposite of what they’re supposed to do because pharmaceutical companies have become very wealthy by giving people deadly medications, our water isn’t fit for anyone to drink, our air is being polluted by poisons when airplanes deliberately fly and leave chemical trails of poisons for us to breath, and our food is filled with pesticides and chemicals. All of those things cause severe health problems and most are fatal. Instead of the federal government doing it’s job to make everyone safe, it began a regulation of every corporation in this country. That is why there aren’t any jobs because corporations can’t keep up with the ridiculous regulations the government has restricted upon them. They go under, or they leave the country because other countries don’t have nearly as many regulations, or taxes on corporations, as the American government does. It’s a simple plan for the simpletons in D.C. to eliminate the middle class and turn them into the ‘welfare’ class. There used to be many classes of people in America – the poor, the lower middle class, the middle class, upper middle class, and rich. There will soon be two classes – the poor and the rich, and the rich are those who stupid people voted to stay D.C. to make them poor. I only see one hope for America and his name is DR. RON PAUL.

      • Bruce

        You should not really need a lot of specific data to understand the negative effects of inflation. If you do you have no common sense. Politicians who help by deficit spending create inflation and it eats away at your paycheck and savings. Politicians should solve problems through new ideas and a better way of doing things not by bankrupting the country or 13 trillion dollar debt. At this point whoever votes to raise the debt ceiling should be looked on as traiters who wish to subvert the country for personal and political gain.

      • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

        Val: I have no wish to discredit your comments and I do not care to put blame on any party, however, the push for affordable housing during the Carter Administration and loosening of credit and fraud by individuals in lending institutions are a big part of why we are this economic mess. Both parties can accept blame for this for not stopping it before it got out of hand.

        If you want names currently serving in the present Congress, Representative Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd were very involved in this. They forced the hand of the lending institutions to make loans to people who could not afford homes; a noble effort but not very smart. Lending just got out of hand and people lived beyond their means. This all reminds me of the carton page where Ernest is saying “I can’t understand why the bank is saying I have no money when I have plenty of checks left”. So, we, the average citizen contributed just like the government with a lack a discipline.

        • eyeswideopen

          Bud, this site shows the years that Mortgage Acts were passed. Please note that Nixon was Pres. 1970/74, Carter 1977/79, Reagan 1981, and Bush 1990/92. Damage was done by all of these fine men and the Congress that servered them.

          • TIME

            Eyes If you had any bloody clue what your babbling about all the time it would shock me. But what you post is the same old same old mindless dribble over and over again.

            So your life didn’t quite work out the way you thought it would. You though that everyone would take care of you, well there is still Cuba tickets are cheep. By By.

            Did you ever get a home loan back duing the times you noted?
            I bet not, or that stupid mindless dribble would not be posted now would it have been.

      • Gus

        Val,
        You and everyone around the world need to read the book “The creature from jekyll island”, to truely understand what happened to our banking system. It’s not about politics, this president is to blame for this, that one for that. It’s been planned for 100 yrs to have world order. READ the book, get everybody you know to read the book. PLEASE! It’s not a blame game, we’re just the pawns.

        • Deb09

          Very good point! We keep playing the blame game which just diverts our attention from who/what is really pulling the strings. Both parties are pawns in this game, greed is the master.

        • JC

          You have to wonder why we keep arguing red and blue politics when both have been leading us down the garden path.
          End The Federal Reserve and you cut the head off the snake.

        • Hope For American

          Gus, I read ‘The Creature from Jekyll Island’ by G. Edward Griffin and I want to say I was shocked, but I can’t because I’ve known for many years just how deceitful our politicians are. I was, however, really pissed off. I’ve also read ‘Atlas Shrugged’ by Ayn Rand, and several of Jesse Ventura’s books. But like you said, everyone should read that book and they’ll get an understanding of how our own government sold us out to a few men who created something called the ‘Federal Reserve Banking System’. The word ‘federal’ has nothing to do with our federal government and isn’t a part of our governmental system. Yes, what Ben Bernacke is doing, and the many before him is called ‘TREASON’, and not ‘almost treasonous’ as I will quote Rick Perry.

          • Hope For American

            To continue, I might add that the books I stay away from are authored by Bill O’Reilly. O’Reilly reminds me of an ex-boyfriend – I thought he was a man until I look under the covers. O’Reilly is nothing but a fraud who thinks he has all the answers and nobody is right except himself.

      • Joel Johnston

        Liberals wanting facts? Cite your sources? Eat the rich and down with the WASP (ie. the white man)? Eileen is correct. America is the land of the free and the American dream is to struggle and prosper to your own abilities. What facts do you need to understand this? This is a democracy not a socialist state. I challenge any liberal ideologue to show me facts that American democracy requires individuals (with ability) to work hard so that they can support not only their family but other families that are not as prosperous. Rich and poor both gamble with their money but you don’t see anyone demanding money from someone who just won at the slot machine do you? That only happens after the winnings are taxed and then apportioned to government controlled program budgets that are voted to best serve the needs of the American people…right? Where does this sense of entitlement to “eat the rich” come from?

        It comes from welfare programs championed by democrats aimed at re-distributing wealth through public tax dollars. Why would any political party do something like this to begin with you might ask? Because the democrats represented the lower income and underachieving masses that were susceptible to accept handouts and then become dependent on “free stuff”. Only there is no such thing as a free lunch so the cost was put on the shoulders of the prosperous (rich) in the form of higher taxes. The fortunate wealthy could not object to giving back because it is something that fortunate wealthy people do. Like any drug dealer the democrats hooked their own dependents and in order to stay in business they needed to make sure their dependents stayed hooked. If you need facts do your own homework and look at the history of Social Security. Be sure to note what party it was enacted under then note major changes to financial provisions and what party changed it (I don’t have time to spoon feed facts to any lazy liberals because I need to get back to work to support them soon).

        This is where America’s liberal baby was born and now it has grown into an unshaven dependent with a full diaper and a loud voice demanding to be fed. What happens when the food runs out? Well all you lazy, underachieving, disgruntled, self-entitled Americans…EAT THE RICH! Then take a great big dump in your own nest.

      • Lou Mangi

        What institution did u escape from

        • TIME

          Lou, Whats your point? Or is it that more than six word strung together is too much effort for you?

      • Richard Gooch

        Val, so much opportunity has existed in this country throughout its’ history that any person that was not lazy could take advantage of a lifestyle that is well above any other in the world. We are now infested with people that will not work. Probably, you are one of them. Even in today’s lack of employment opportunities, a person could still work.

        You and millions of other’s like you want to blame bush-reagan, whoever, You believe Obama is going to bring utopia to America, by releasing you from all responsibilty for your existence.

      • Deborah

        Wow Val! You a little thick, huh?
        His proof is quite simple, money out of our checking, savings, ira, pensions, stocks, bonds and pretty much everywhere else you look today…gone…didn’t you hear about this? It was a big news story, well, for those that paid attention.
        You stayed asleep while us crazies and wacko’s have been out here reading everything they put out.
        By chance have you read the 2011 Tax Budget and the anti-American laws that lie in wait for you? Well, I suppose you were waiting for someone in the government to tell you, right? Come January 1, 2011…you’ll hear it then. Don’t be to surprised, because I’m telling you and now you know, if you end up OWING the government for the right to work. I mean it. You will be working to free the president to reign down on us LIKE NOTHING WE’VE EVER SEEN!
        They took what was not theirs in the way of our money. Now, they want our freedoms.
        You just go back to sleep. The Muslim faith will see to it that your 10 year old (or younger) are groomed in their faith in your absence. The rest of us are to be Cleansed from the face of the earth.
        You are so lucky you woke up today! Wait, ummm, Val…you asleep?

      • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

        The Republican Party has not been in control of every facet of Government for thiry years. The Democrat Party had control of both houses of Congress from 1952 through 1994. The Republicans had control in the House of Representatives from 1995 through 2008. When the Republicans had a majority in the Senate it was very slight, and they have never had a fillabuster proof majority, which is why the tax decreases of 2001 and 2003 were set to expire in January 2001. Get your facts staight before you spout off your leftist rhetoric.

      • Robert S

        Mary Deregulation started with Jimmy Carter when he deregulated the trucking industry. All the good union jobs went to non-union companies. There are only a handful of union companies left out of thousands. Both parties are controlled by the same elitists.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The decline started with FDR and all his backroom double dealings, and we have never recovered. Bill Clinton was the most damning president to ever sit in the office. We may never recover from his dirty dealings and his giving top secret technology to other nations, and his giving our jobs away to other nations. Take those two guys out of the picture, and things wouldnt be so bad today. But those are just the facts, but the libs arent interested in the truth, so they will reject these truths.

      • Bobbie S. Meaders

        I think val is wrong, true I am not a study of politics, but I am smart enough to know when a person doesn’t know all they think they know. Chew on that a day or two!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Dave, Fairfax, VA

        Val, You forgot to mention LBJ and Medicare/Medicaid. Another Democrat program to buy votes from old and poor. Or, you can talk about FDR and the beginning of the biggest government ponzi scam in history. While no Congress in the last 70 years has shown any fiscal responsibility, it is clear that the Dems have a huge lead in giving away the bank.

      • pat

        “Republicans have veen in power for 30 years”? where have you been? We had a republican predident that had a dem controlled houe and snate for the last 2years of office and a dem controlled senate, house and white house for 2 years and they have made verything way worse than it was.
        Democrats – conservative????????? where so you get that from?
        They are spend crazy, pro abortion, pro homesexuality, and they favor illegal immigrants over citizens!
        Get your facts straight!

      • JC

        val cousino says:
        March 13, 2009 at 12:44 pm
        What facts and recorded events are you referring to to back up your claim?
        The current econimic crises surely started with the now lionized President Regan,
        who initated deregulation of banks,
        _________________________________________________________________

        Regulation is monopoly. Monopoly favors the wealthy, favors the “regulators”. Free Market Competition favors the poor and the hard working.

        The financial crisis was “greenlighted” by the Clinton Administration with it’s “everyone should be able to own a home” whether they could afford it or not.

        And let’s not forget who was their No. 1 Cheerleader in that effort…
        Barack “I’m a Kenyan Imposter” Obama…or is it Soetoro?
        Who knows with this criminal freak anyway…

      • mariabeb

        Reply to James Graham – I know and agree with all you say – what can be done so, we do not loose America – America needs help ….

      • TF

        Val, once you have eaten the rich whom will you feed off of then. I agree that there is plenty of blame to go around but what entitles you to feed off the earnings of others is your ego so supreme that you think that anyone that has more than you must have cheated to get it? Try extrapolating that out to the poorest among us that have no desire to work or create anything, just sit back and take what is given to them. There is the rub with this society, do gooders like you that think you can fix things by doleing out someoneelses money. Charity has it’s place but it certainly doesn’t belong in the government, they are quite charitable enough to themselves. You say that the Republicans have been in charge for 30 years but it seems to me that all we have had is politicians trying to by their next stint at the trough with taxpayers money. Oh and sorry but I don’t buy that everything that has happened to this country is the fault of the last administration it goes way further back than that and unless people like you wake up there will be no country to criticize.

      • Void1972

        Val
        Everyday you wake, you feel something is not right. Something very strange is happening to all of the people you know. You see it at work, on TV, at home. You feel it yourself. What can it be?
        It’s called “liberalism”. This is an extreme, life threatening mental disorder. The feeling everyday that you just don’t fit into society. You are an outcast, you don’t belong. You do your damnedest to convince yourself, and others around you that America is evil, that good is bad, and bad is good.
        You fight for causes that justify your hatred for freedom, God and all that is right for mankind.
        Yes, we understand the severe problems you faced as a child to bring you to this cause, but just know that you are wrong. Your entire thought process is corrupt. Your not capable of making rational decisions. Your irrelevant.
        It’s unfortunate that millions of others have the same disorder. But the cure has been here for quite a while, it’s called the “Personal Liberty Digest”. Bob Livingston and his crew are here to help you with your illness. Please try to fight the demons in your head and listen to sanity. It will save your life, and maybe your soul.
        Many on this site will guide you out of your darkness and into the light.
        God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

      • Millicent

        What a sad excuse for a US citizen you are. The country is falling down around our ears under the Muslim communist in the White House and you defend the socialist/democrats who are spending us out of existence and keep printing money to pay for their destruction.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        The Democrats have been in control of Congress and the Senate for more years than the Republicans. During the Reagan Administration the Democrat controlled Congress passed large increases in spending averaging an !! % increase each year. If you will remember the told Reagan they would cut spending if he would agree to a tax increase. He did and they lied, as they did not follow through with the spending cuts. During the Johnson administration, the Democrat controlled Congress passed a law ending Social Security and the Highway as Trust Funds and borrowed the money replacing it with Treasury notes which continued until last year when Social Security began paying out more than it took in. Jimmy Carter said that because of the baby boom bubble, that generation had to pay more into the “so called” trust fund to pay for their benefits to be paid in the future. Jimmy Carter and the Democrat controlled Congress and Senate created the Community Reinvestment Act, to allow poor people to be able to afford housing. The Republicans only took control of the Congress in the 1994 elections. Bill Clinton and Janet Reno enhanced the CRA and actually threatened the big banks with IRS and other agency audits if they did not make loans to unworthy home buyers. Bill Clinton submitted a bill that narrowly passed revoking the Glass Steagal Act. Bill Clinton and some of the Republicans that allowed this nonsense are responsible for the housing bubble that had to crash. When I bought my home in 1991 the minimum required down payment was 10 %. I did not feel comfortable with putting down less than 20 %. After 1998 people with low incomes were allowed to borrow as much as 110% of the value of their home purchase without the income to possibly repay the loan. Need I say more. The Republicans never had a veto proof Senate for the 6 years in which they had a majority in the last 70 years. Where have you been and what have you been smoking?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Jimmy Carter deregulated the Airlines, which is one of the few good things he did. It brought about competition and lower air fares.

      • alex

        maybe you need to do a little more studing and while you are at it take a closer look at some of the laws carter pushed through

      • Ralph

        Val,

        You just lost all credability with me when you stated that the Democrats are conservative! Give me a brake!

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I believe the deregulation of the Air Lines occurred during the Carter Administration. Talk about getting the facts straight?

      • Fred Seaboch

        you are not an AMERICAN, AND i BET YOU NEVER SERVED IN OUR MILITARY

      • http://gmail.com Sancheleezy

        Yes Val Cousino you are the one who has a very hard time “getting it”. The truth is delivered to you every time that you hear the truth which is that Liberty is the answer. All of these laws passed onto us by the Democrats and the RINO Republicans are the problem and not the answer. Ron Paul has by his actions and by word of mouth srtated the obvious, that is restore the Constitution and quit trying to control every aspect of every Americans lives, which they don’t even abide by. We need a solid currency, with less stimulation and inflation and deflation. The gov.’t. is the problem and not the answer.

      • Blue

        It was prophesied thousands of years ago that one would come into power. That you won’t be able to buy, sell or trade without the number or name of the beast. Is that an individual, corrupt banks, religion, group or groups of people, a government entity or nation(s)? I don’t think anyone has all the answers. We can’t just blame the Jews. If we do, then we have to blame ourselves too because we were the ones that allowed these despots into power. The Jews are deceived and so are we all planet wide. The people of the US and Israel are all busy trying to survive. It appears that the Middle East, the US and Israel will be sacrificed to further their agenda. It is those at the top that are corrupt…not the ordinary people. Everyone here has some viable comments, but the message we can’t forget is that we are in desperate times and we can’t afford to shut our eyes and pretend the government really cares about us. Their actions have proven otherwise. We already have a military industrial complex, a police state and FEMA camps.Those of us that have our eyes open and can see must continue to educate those whose eyes are closed and blind and we don’t have much time. If you come here just to make comments and think that is taking a real activist role, then you are deceived. Most of the people here know what is happening. It’s those who don’t come here that need to be informed and educated. There was a plan centuries ago to destroy us economically and take away our guns. If we are poor and unarmed, we are much more easily controlled. If we continue to take their poisons in vaccinations, drink and eat their poisoned foods, then we will continue to die. It’s called soft kill people and that takes many years to accomplish. Wars are just another method of killing us off. The corrupt do have patience. The corrupt have infiltrated every aspect of our lives, including our religions and schools. They are everywhere and they see that people are awakening and are scared. That is why their agenda is quickening. They think by threatening us, as they are now, that we will come into compliance through fear. If we relinquish, we are committing suicide and will see our children and grandchildren become their slaves or die. Those “elite” are Luciferians and are psychopaths and they plan to depopulate the earth by at least 90% so that they can be gods. Their plans are clearly stated in their “white papers” and coming out of their mouths. All you have to do is research and listen to what they are saying. I don’t think this will all end peaceably, but I don’t think that is what they want. They will skitter away into their own private bunkers and watch and laugh at the resulting bloodbath, because if peaceful means fail us, what else is left? I’m lived a pretty good life and I can’t stop talking about the truth. If they want to disappear me or murder me, then so be it. I don’t fear death by man, but I do fear God’s judgement and burning in hell for eternity. Where do you stand? Have you made peace with God?

      • http://conservativedailynews.com DJ

        Geez please re-read Bob’s article. Put the political noise aside for a minute. First of all try to use facts to back up statements, then expound on them.Here we see an apparent democrat-supporter claiming that Repubs have been in control for 30 years? 2007,2008,2009 and 2010, democrats controlled both houses of Congress. Same years they controlled the U.S. Senate and still do. Talk about out of touch w/reality there.

        http://www.dflorig.com/partycontrol.htm

        Part of the manipulation of the masses is the way our supposed government compiles the inflation index. Every vital item necessary to live today has jumped up in price, yet the government says there is no inflation, or very very little. Gasoline, heating fuel, bread, milk eggs, meat, clothing, and cleaning supplies have skyrocketed recently.As Bob says, this is stealing your wealth through inflation due to the irresponsible printing of money, also known as QE1 2 and soon to come QE3.When I made 10 bucks an hour back in 2001, I was able to live fairly comfortable.10 short years later, 10 bucks an hour doesn’t even come close to earning a decent living.

      • marlene

        The Republicans have not been in control for 30 years, they took control of both the House and the Senate for the first time in 40 yrs in 1996 (know your facts as you say) and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY took BACK control of the House in 2006, the Republicans only had control of both the House, Senate and White house from 2000 – 2006, where do you get 30 yrs from THAT? Again, know your facts. PS 2006 the largest SPENDING INCREASE IN US HISTORY WAS PASSED. To include Congress raising their own Congressional Budget 25% under the leadership of Nancy Pelosi.

    • George

      Is it legal to ship or carry large amounts of gold and silver bulion out of the country? By large I mean thousands of ounces?

      George

    • AUSTIN PETERSON

      The Democrats obviously caused this collapse, but I did not hear too many Republicans acting as whistle blowers. Besides, during those years the Republicans were to busy with all the Clinton-gates to be bothered by running our government. Who let Bernie Maddof slip thru their fingers 3 different times. I say vote out organized crime, vote out all incumbents, and limit terms to one 4 year term…..

      • American Citizen

        President Bush warned Congress three years before the collapse that Freddie and Fannie were in trouble, but the Democrats Dodd and Frank pooh poohed that idea. The convinced Congress that all was well. I also saw on the internet at the same time warnings that the housing boom was about to bust.

        • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

          Actually it was 2001.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Thats because Barney Frank was the head of the oversight committee, and he knew things were bad, and he covered it up, while Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick were finishing gutting this thing, writing million dollar bonuses to their democrat friends until they totally drained these funds. All three of them should be in prison, and for a long time. How they are allowed to get away with fleecing and mishandling all of this money is just plain irresponsible. Then to show us all how stupid and blind the people of Massachusetts are, they re-elect the crook. Just as they continued to elect the biggest crook ever, year after year, Ted Kennedy, and the other big crook, John Kerry. Can anyone say Mob, boys and girls. Yeah, its kind of like that.

          • Void1972

            Beberoni
            I know many people in Boston, and they all say the same thing, “our voting system is corrupt”. They all know many others that never voted for Kennedy, and those people knew even more. If nobody voted for Kennedy, how did he get elected every year?
            You will see the same thing in the 2012 election, nobody will vote for the obama, but he will win the election. The fix is in.

          • Fred Seaboch

            wE NEED TO GO BACK TO A HAND COUNT OF VOTE WITH THE PEOPLE WE TRUST IN THE LOCAL ARENA, YOU ARE RIGHT gEO. SOros companies needs to be investigated and not allow to count the votes period

        • Capitalist at Birth

          I predicted the economic collapse as well as the false rise in housing stock values in 1999, after the CRA was dusted off and the revocation of the Glass-Steagall Act. Any one with a high school economics class would understand that.

      • Lou Mangi

        Now that is a thinking man. But the question is how do we institute term limits when the people who vote for it are the ones who will have the term limits. Can anyone answer that

        • TIME

          Yes Lou, The answer is easy, they work for us – but as it is now they feel that YOU work for them. So how to.

          Flip it back to whats it was set up to be. Now how easy is that.

        • Robert S

          Get recall petitions signed. Find out how many signatures are needed.

        • Pat

          Just vote all of them out every 4 years!

      • Deborah

        I hold extreme prejudice against those that didn’t speak out. But, like the Supreme Court all of a sudden giving back our full rights to our guns, them telling O that they were noticing the way he’s taking this country and his circumventing the rulings of the Justices and now Congress, placing in a new form of government with extreme ideas that do not benefit the country or people and all the gd taxes to pay for it… leaves me to believe that we’ve been given our orders. The best they could.
        Do you know, I went out trying to warn people about the problems in our country and how extreme and obtrusive it’s all become, just a month ago, just a week ago…but it wasn’t until yesterday that the granny said, “Yeah, that’s what I’m hearing”. Others shaking their heads in agreement. Up until yesterday, people looked out of touch….like I was speaking another language! I was the “crazy” screaming at you all at the Walmart gas station, talking to you over the milk isle (milk has been poisoned with to many chemicals, Canada refused to buy it from us…cancer in mice..special interest money)
        If you are listening to me! Buy up food, water, medical supplies, alternative lighting, wood for heating and cooking, and guns for protecting yourself and to use to hunt.
        By a cb or police scanner, usually we can’t hear the homeland security channels…
        I know it sounds crazy! But, you can always use these items for other things in the event I’ve, and many, many other, have over estimated this entire mess we’ve found ourselves in.
        You have states standing up saying, NO. You have people in those states that are saying NO. You have the government saying, I can and will do what I want.
        POTUS! PROVE YOURSELF OR GET THE HELL OUT!
        You all can thank Sarah Palin and those like her in the developing political realm. We owe her a load of thanks, if we make it out of this alive!

        • Void1972

          Deborah
          Good job! We need more educated women like yourself. Unfortunately, they are too busy watching the housewives of dingbatville, and the moronic mob wives.
          Keep up the good work, and keep your faith. The battle has only just begun.
          God Bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

    • Joel Johnston

      A lot of very interesting commentary. It appears that there are quite a few people who believe the government has slowly lost purpose through a slow erosion of the constitution. The simple has been made complex as happens with all of the best laid plans. The paper darts the liberals throw are juvenile celebration of the expanded entitlements they need. Reduce or eliminate the entitlements and watch the addicts withdrawal. Liberals cry like fat babies when the milk runs out.

      It is tempting to dwell in dark imaginings and believe that the problems is so complex that there is no fix. It is also tempting to sit back, let go, and let God. I think of the hardships of our forbears and can only feel that they too faced the same thoughts. They endeavored to persevere; however, and in retrospect the choices we face seem to pale in comparison. We have a means of organizing more effectively than the pony express. We don’t need Paul Revere to carry oil lamps through the countryside. We have the support of each other and can rest assured in the knowledge that there are many who know their history and accept the responsibility of being an American. The responsibility to remain diligent against the enemies of our free land earned through sacrifice of self, soul, and blood.

      Enough. To all of you who agree don’t waste another minute gathering courage or resolve. If you take in all points of view your commitment to real change will be watered down and stirred into the gelatin waiting to mold. Take unified action. Use the Tea Party to launch the CONSTITUTION PARTY. Become active in your local Tea Party. Demand political candidates carry the Constitution as their platform. Make them understand that they represent the people in a new revolution for reform. It is the strongest option we have now to make a unified effort. If this drive becomes marginalized and splintered, then the chances of enacting significant change to preserve our freedom diminishes exponentially. The change toward wresting our freedoms away is already increasing in magnitude and direction.

      • Deborah

        It went from slow erosion to mud slide of our Constitution.

    • eyeswideopen

      Steven, considering the repubs had control of Congress from 1995 to 2007, with a sitting President for 8 of them, it is not logical that you could dump the recent fiscal problems entirely on them. Of course RWA’s don’t use logic when the facts aren’t to their liking. Conservatives have a wonderful way of compartmentalization when facts are counter to their beliefs. Let me guess you are a RWA aren’t you?/ http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

      • JC

        We’re now dealing with “today” and you are wasting space.
        The tasks we face are “ahead” of us, not behind us.

      • Deborah

        You’re right of course, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. However, do I think Livingston believes that the past presidents are without blame? No, neither do I.
        Yet, you must consider what is at stake. Your freedoms are at stake. The lives of your children, family and friends are at stake.
        We’ve welcomed in to many that are not content to be in America. They want us out. We’ve been over taken and our last stand will be to battle the extremists from other countries that do not believe in America, her people or her way of government.
        We elected a president that is an illegal align himself. POTUS! PROVE IT YOUR RAT COMMIE!
        No, we know that the past presidents helped create this mess. One, this is not our president, two you have to stay awake and read in order to keep up. This isn’t about republican and democrat anymore.
        It’s about America and her People. It’s about the CONSTITUTION and all it stands for! It’s about getting the cancer off America’s back!

        • Pat

          Well said. We need to stop wasting time blamimg. We all know it is both parties fault. Now we better stop complaining and get moving. Become a member of a tea party group or start one. Stay in touch with people that are like minded and want to save our country.- our freedoms.

        • mariabeb

          Hey, lets all quit the blaming – it does not matter who’s to blame – we are in a disaster and it has already started and it’s going to be fast – wake up people – get yourself prepared now – I am prepared and still working on it – when the time comes and a neighbor needs my help do you think I am going to ask a questions like – are you a dem. or a rep., are you black or white, are you a christian – no I will not ask nothing as long as we are on the same side and they are willing to work along side of me – remember, when your in the mist of danger things are different – I am a christian and I will do “what Jesus would do” and pray, pray – God bless you all and America

      • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

        Many of the Republicans of which you speak were actually RINO’S

        • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

          And not true Conservatives. You don’t know what a true conservative is, do you?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think you are prostituting the truth. The democrats had the majority in congress for 4 of Bush’s 8 years, and they had the majority in congress during Bush 1 I do believe. And they had the majority for one of Clinton’s terms I believe also.

      • http://conservativedailynews.com DJ

        FYI add up the debt plus inflation from 95-2007,, then add it up from 2007-2012. A person does not have to be a right-winger to see the truth in those stats there. I,m a conservative and dam proud of it.

    • Goofy

      Hello,I am not good with politics,I have read all of what each of you said.I agree with the person said about Reagan.He did deal with USSR at the time and no one got killed for it.That to me is a leader and someone that is mature and used his “brain” on how to handle the situation not his pockets.Plus other issues at that time were handled like a leader should.We all may not agree but atleast he did not point his finger like a 5 year old child.Blaming someone else.True or not.If you take a position you took the position to fix the issues that the other before you did not.I did not vote for Obama he is no leader he is week he has proved this to many times.Blamed Us Americans for our religous beliefs and other issues as well.Some leader.He needs to grow up or go back to Illionois.He is pointing his finger at you and me as well as the former presidents.Well,he is so perfect then fix the damn problems and shut the hell up crying little 5 year old.I do not care about his color but he has proved his ignorance.I have searved our great country because I wanted something bigger than myself to give back to those whom gave to me.If it was not for our armed forces keeping us free which they are apart of the process.We would not have what we have today Freedom.Which is fadding if we all do not vote in November and in the next Presidential election.Find out about the person before you vote.READ.LEARN.than vote.That is YOUR FREEDOM your messing with.GET IT!!!.People I know some of you out there just do not get it.Your are a problem.Acting like you know something and you do not.example.Congress. Makes you look like a butthead.The old saying if you do not have nothin nice to say shut it.Also if you do not know what is going on.Keep your mouth shut and listen before you open your mouth and insert foot.The problem today not enough listening,troubleshooting the problem.It’s Like a mechanic the car stopped running.Well its the computer,spark plug wire,filters,sensor and the car still does not start.They just assumed and jumped in wasted all that time and money.When it need gas.The gas gauge would of read empty if that happend some of you say.Not so.gauges go bad people.Now you jumped in and wasted the owners money on your bad diagnosis of the problem.Now the customer has to pay for the tow and all the labor and unnecessary parts as well as putting gas back into it.Close to a $1500.00 bill easy.Very bad trouble shooting.The same way our Congress is doing they are not reading the problems on hand in our country.They are just throughing something in to patch it and cash it draining the American people.Hello thats you and me.I bet they do not even know what the Constition stands for.Instead of finding the problem and fixing it.The patches will fall off and keep backing up and costing more and more etc. money.Not happy with this.So we do not read about whom we voted for and let them do it.Its our fault people.Bad trouble shooting.The issues today are because people are not using thier brains or listening to what is being said with the problems we have.Its $$$$$ issue how much can we squeeze out of the American People.That is a Rich issue.Your money.But the other people that have worked hard to get where they are at.I applaud them.This is where you have to know the differance.Hello again troubleshooting.I am having a problem understanding the muslym people.They are just people like the rest of us.But I do not like what those muslyms did in NY.So like always how do we figure in any race whom is good or bad.These people have made me angry.I am racist against these people.I served during Shield and Storm and a 10year vet.These people of Islam are wacked.So how do we know what muslyms are good to bad.Me right now of what Mr. Obama talks about is for these people.Help on this I am so angry with him even going on their side after what happened in NY.Now they want to build a Mosk across the street of ground zero.Man this is my country which I fought for with other soldiers.Man if my foot was big enough it would be ugly.Just sayin.PLease read about whom you vote for before you press the button.Color is not the issue vote for the knowledge and experiance and leadership of the indiviual.we are taken chances on these people.Thats life.We voted carelessly this time.Vote for the future of our human race and the future of our children.Sorry so long.I am a upset american and you should be too.Lets fix the problems and stop blamming each other.VOTE them out then.Do this in your personal lives too.NONE of US IS PERFECT PERIOD.Things can be worked out maturley just have to try respectfully of coarse.GOD Bless Us All.I am not a full christian but I do believe in our higher power.Amen.Thanks for reading.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Reagan settled the Soviet dispute without firing a shot, and he made American strong and respected again, and he had the economy rolling so good it carried us through 4 years of Bush 1 and 6 of the eight years of Clinton, who didnt do a damn thing but collect praise from all the things Reagan put into place. Clinton sold our jobs to Mexico, cut our military in half which was despicable, then he cut our intelligence agencies in half, which allowed the terrorists to set up shop in this country that planned and pulled off 9-11. He allowed terrorists to blow up the basement of the World Trade Centers. He allowed terrorists to blow up the USS Cole, and he allowed terrorist to drag our dead on live TV through the streets of Somalia beating their dead bodies. And he didnt do a damn thing about it, which weakened us in the eyes of our enemies and made them so much stronger, as we became a weak laughing stock to them. Reagan was great for this country. Clinton was the worst thing that has ever happened to us, even worse than Obama. Obama’s damage is microscopic compared to what Clinton did.

    • Larry DeBerry

      It is unfortunate that we sometimes forget that we are all Americans and that our difference are exposed more than our similarities. I personally don’t want a government that continues to encroach on my personal freedoms that I was given to by God. There is no one that has the right to infringe on those freedoms. We can always point fingers at who did this or who did that,but we must all accept personal responsibility for our own situation and what we have allowed our country to become. I personally looked the other way and did not pay attention to what was happening in our government. Shame on me. I have decided to correct that issue. I hope we all get more involved and so we can have an honest debate without violence. That is the American way. It is important to know the facts however, facts can be manipulated to support ones argument. Let’s debate based on our heart and be honest about the facts. I believe in America and our founding principles. I have a lot of hope for each of us.

    • http://al@bellaproducts.com al metcalf

      It is time for everyone to take deep breath and think.
      How many of our elected pols are members of the Trilateral Commission or the Council on Foreign Relations or one of the sister groups? These are all pushers of the One World Government (OWG) crowd.

      As long as we, the American people are busy squabbling with each other they can destroy this nation with out any body noticing what is happening.

      Republican or Democrat, there are very little differences. They all want to spend us into non-existance as a nation. Once we are completely bankrupt the OWG will come up with this new wonderful solution of lets all pool our resources and make new utopian world. The New World Order which will be so wonderful that no one will ever have to work at all and we can all set around and talk philosophy all day in the shade of a tree. Yeah right ..

      Wake up folks, we are being led down the road to serfdom and it has been going on for 100 years right in front of our faces. We must take back control of this country in 2012 with a new group of honest conservative elected people or all is lost without an armed revolution. Count on it.

    • Mark

      The PowerHour with Joyce Riley.
      ***LISTEN***

    • diana1987

      i believe the bible says that we should pray for our leaders, or maybe i overlooked it and it says slander the president, and everyone that don’t agree with your ideas or your way of preceivng a thing. what has happened to real Americans? do we not stand for justice for the poor man anymore? Dogs have a better life then a real human that is going through a rough time. there was a spirit in america in her early days where sacrifice was made for the next generation, what do you think the soliders do when they go to war for the nation? they sacrifice EVERYTHING they have so that we can live in a land that is free to choose, and have liberities other nations don’t have. Stop the petty name calling and stand for something real. it is easy to sit and type on a keyboard but can you get out in your community and make a real change. that is what i hear President Obama saying. He is not trying to steal white peoples money, he is making an attempt to make all things equal across the board for all humans, not just the medical cartel, or the oil cartel, or the judical cartel, you see those are the people that run the country. President Obama don’t have any power it sits in the hands of congress and if the powers that be can keep you focused on the president then they have scored a victory.
      THINK, america is behind in everything and it is because of the greed of the people that have the most money. You see it takes poverty to propagate capitalism. study to show thyself approved.

      • yooper04

        Diana 1987,
        I agree with much of what you say but I differ on the politics of what a president can do. The way the system is supposed to work is the President sets the tone and policy and Congress rolls up their sleeves and both parties work together and largely put these ideas into bills. But this time around we have a House of Representatives that is made up of so many right wing extremists, they basically sat on their rumps and did nothing but disparage the President. I hope, oh I hope so much, people in each district fire these worthless a-holes. They did nothing to earn the people’s money.
        As for soldiers going off to fight wars to protect the nation, that used to be the case. But quite honestly (and I served 25 years and 12 of those were active duty) there has not been a purposeful war that has served this nation since Korea. Tell me why we were even in Iraq. I mean aside fromt he lies and deception that got us there. I have come to believe that most wars these days are fought to change regimes for the good of capitalists, that is the rich. Iraq I think is the exception and its sole purpose was to make us “feel good”. Bush had to do something to make up for his gross negligence in ignoring Al-Auida threats so he went after Iraq. And after all Saddam had threated his daddie, so there.
        Speaking as a white person, I honestly and naively beleived after the tumultous 60′s that we were moving beyond race in this country. But having a Black President in the oval office has only brought out so many racists crawling out from under the rocks. Racism is still very alive and prolific in this country. And you definitely see it in the House of Reps. and the Senate as well. I not only pray for our leaders but I often pray specifically for President Obama and his family that God protects them from the vitriolic hatred and racism that might cause them harm.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Personal Liberty

    Thanks Steven, you are absolutely correct.  That choice has been added to the poll for future participants.  We appreciate your feedback.

    • sonya young

      where do you GET STEVEN is right Is he paying you ???

      • American Citizen

        Unless you have all the choices, the poll is worthless.

    • Joel Johnston

      A lot of very interesting commentary. It appears that there are quite a few people who believe the government has slowly lost purpose through a slow erosion of the constitution. The simple has been made complex as happens with all of the best laid plans. The paper darts the liberals throw are juvenile celebration of the expanded entitlements they need. Reduce or eliminate the entitlements and watch the addicts withdrawal. Liberals cry like fat babies when the milk runs out.

      It is tempting to dwell in dark imaginings and believe that the problems is so complex that there is no fix. It is also tempting to sit back, let go, and let God. I think of the hardships of our forbears and can only feel that they too faced the same thoughts. They endeavored to persevere; however, and in retrospect the choices we face seem to pale in comparison. We have a means of organizing more effectively than the pony express. We don’t need Paul Revere to carry oil lamps through the countryside. We have the support of each other and can rest assured in the knowledge that there are many who know their history and accept the responsibility of being an American. The responsibility to remain diligent against the enemies of our free land earned through sacrifice of self, soul, and blood.

      Enough. To all of you who agree don’t waste another minute gathering courage or resolve. If you take in all points of view your commitment to real change will be watered down and stirred into the gelatin waiting to mold. Take unified action. Use the Tea Party to launch the CONSTITUTION PARTY. Become active in your local Tea Party. Demand political candidates carry the Constitution as their platform. Make them understand that they represent the people in a new revolution for reform. It is the strongest option we have now to make a unified effort. If this drive becomes marginalized and splintered, then the chances of enacting significant change to preserve our freedom diminishes exponentially. The change toward wresting our freedoms away is already increasing in magnitude and direction.

      • eyeswideopen

        Joel, give me some thing that this administration has done which is unconstitutional. Proven uncontitutional, not just that a fringe group doesn’t like. Try dealing with the facts, and name just one thing that has been uncontitutional. If something had been done, that was, don’t you imagine that the repubs/conservatives would have had it in front of the Supreme Court immediately? You are living in a fantasy world.

        • JC

          Destroying our economy with fiat currency, which puts every American at risk of starvation and social collapse. It’s criminal on every level.
          Now, go ahead and waste our time with finger pointing….yawn.

        • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

          Obamacare is unconstitutional.

        • Robert S

          Eyes Do you really believe we have a real 2 party system? If you do you are very naive.

  • Mark

    In your “Who’s To Blame” vote you list every one except the real reason, the U.S. Congress. They forced lower standards to qualify but now it’s every one else’s fault but theirs, and you go right along with it.

    • eyeswideopen

      Mark, you mean that group who had control from 1995 to 2007?? That group? lol

      • JC

        I get an impression of you standing in front of the White House trying to point everyone away from it…like that would keep people from noticing it somehow.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        The Democrats took control of Congress in 2001. The Republicans had control of the Senate until 2006. The Democrats have had Control of the Congress and the Senate for most of the last 100 years. The Democrats created the Federal Reserve which is the cause of all of our economic downturns.

  • http://biggun22@ieee.org Donald Mitchell

    It appears that you are lying through your teeth.  It is 2:08 PM CDT October 18 and your poll as accessed through the Drudge report does not include the possibility that the democrats have caused (or even contributed to) this crisis.Donald Mitchell

  • Jon Weiss

    I wanted to vote on October 18th at  5:17 and the option to vote that fault belongs to the democrats in congress is still not there as you said it would be on October 17th.

    Does anyone know if John McCain will be on the ballots in November?

    Maybe someone should check!

  • Jeff

    Ditto Steve. . .no place given for the Democrats. . .like Franks, Dodd, Obama (Rec’d 2nd most from Fannie Mae). . .watch SNL skit which was pulled by MSNBC.

  • Patrick Loubriel

    Taxation,regulation,and inflation are government caused phenomena. Follow any one or all three and you will know what to expect. No one is talking about inflation in this band aid approach to revive the economy. And even this is a small part to the end-game, which is to collapse the dollar and institute a new currency. Right now it is being called the Amero, but it could be called any thing to make sure the people accept the “new buck”. The future is still unfolding and very predictable.

    • JC

      Absolutely right.

  • http://boblivingston jeffrey philo

    Sirs:

    If anyone can believe the “survey” numbers from this ultra-conservative droid please stop watching Fox news and read the 10,000 newspapers in America and abroad!  Absolute
    Wall Street lies. Thanks Pubs for the great shape our county is in. You own it!! JP

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Personal Liberty

    Gentleman you are absolutely right and thank you for bringing it to our attention.  The poll has in fact been updated with a selection for Democrats and US Congress.  Plus, the poll has been reset to 0 in order to not have skewed results.  If you’d like to take a moment to vote, here is a link to the new poll: http://www.personalliberty.com/poll/bailout/bailout-poll.php
    We apologize for the oversight.

    • eyeswideopen

      I started laughing reviewing the results. How so many repubs could deny that they had control of the Congress for 11 years and can remove themselves from all blame for the fiscal crisis is similar to a child found stealing and immediately saying, I didn’t do it, Joey must have. Didn’t the American people voting them out give any indication that we didn’t appreciate the way they governed? Most of the Republican states are experiencing the same problems as the Fed government, as the repubs were worse spenders than the Dem’s were. LOL. This poll proves two things, majority on this site are repubs, and secondally, they are in denial of the most recent history of this great country. You need to own a situation of your own making, prior to being the SAVIORS in trying to fix the same situation.

      • JC

        Who cares? The problem is “systemic”, not red or blue.

  • http://www.keypower.us Chuck m

    To Whom It May Concern: I feel it is time that we follow the lead of our forefathers and form a declaration of Independence from the Confederate government who is holding power over this great nation. In reality the Washington crowd is corrupt in every sense of the word and have become a confederate government. They no longer respect the Constitution of the United States or its’ Bill of Rights. In fact they consider it the least binding law when passing regulations that effect us all. They no longer respect or represent the will of the people who they are elected to serve. They have even corrupted our elections with non traceable and faulty voting methods. Registering one person hundreds of times and allowing such criminal acts to stand, even after being exposed. It’s unbelievable what has happened to us over the past 15 years and more so in the past 5 years. Who would have thought that we would need to watch what we say in America because Big Brother is Watching. We now have Word police, thought police, fun police, city police, county police, federal police, airport police, park police state and federal, fbi, cia, animal police, and several hundred others i cannot think of. We are being regulated, taxed, and policed out of existance.There is nothing this Washington crowd touches that is not completely corrupted. More and more of our Constitutionally guaranteed rights are being eroded each day these people remain in power. We will wake up very soon and it will be too late. They will have stripped us of every means of rebelling and taking our lives back. There is already a consensus by a few in this country that we would be better off as Marxists or some resemblance thereof. These people are assimilated into our educational institutions and are controlling the curriculum in our schools. Our young people have not even been taught patriotism and the rights guaranteed them by our Constitution, so they do not know what they are loosing. This was taught in our schools just a few years ago, and required subjects, not elective. We are being taken over by the multinationals with our own money that we given them. How ignorant can we be? Our elected representatives have legalized graft, corruption, and pay offs for votes, by taking the money through the back door in their campaign finances and brother in law deals with friends and relatives. They have even been accepting money from foreign governments in this manner. This is strictly prohibited by our constitution. All of the above are criminal acts and need to be treated as such. Due to this corruption, you see a law being passed and you say, “how can that be good for America”, but it passes anyway. It is completely contrary to common sense and many of these recently passed laws should be considered Treason. They have destroyed this country, morally, economically, and have negatively impacted the USA worldwide. We have a Constitutional duty to overthrow these thieves and criminals and form a new and (Independent United States of America) which will again serve the will of its’ people. This can be done by a simple vote of the people from each state that chooses to become a part of the New America. We have the perfect format in our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. We simply re-implement these documents and any law to the contrary “NOTWITHSTANDING” as is stated in our Constitution. We obey no laws that are contrary to the rights enumerated in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. We elect a new President and Congress in the manner prescribed by our constitution, we elect new state officials, all current corrupt government agents must be fired. They seem to think they are above us and have no allegiance to us, we implement a fair tax system, possibly a national sales tax. We refuse to acknowledge any and all laws or regulations that are rooted in this current Confederate government. We pay no money to this corrupt system. All member states retain their National Guards and their right to keep and bear arms of course, as protection against the corrupt Washingtonites. If you think Obama or McCain will be the savior, you are completely confused. These people are part of the problem. By the way , spreading the wealth around, is one of the main platforms of ” The Communist Manefesto.” We must form committees in each state and ask the question of its people, DO YOU WISH TO CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY OR HAVE THE CORRUPT PEOPLE WHO NOW RESIDE IN WASHINGTON AND SOME OF OUR STATE HOUSES CONTROL YOUR EVERY MOVE AND THOUGHT. Please forward this email to everyone on your mailing list — cm

    • lee

      I want to say to CM with respect to his grand document about our beloved Constitution and bill of rights. Yes i agree with you and stand with you we must protect our laws of the land and not these laws that chain us down. As a PROUD Coneservative mi believe what our founding fathers warn us about and we are living it now because every one went to sleep, allowed socialist news such as msnbc to lie to us and every other news group. They never tell the real story today because they are told from on high not to, yes i see a rebellion not to far away and why do i say this? There are people like me that live in hic vill USA that will not stand for this much longer. Yes i live out side of the city main stream but i can see from the out side in, what i see is sheep lead by the nose by this corrupt system we now have. LM

    • Thomas

      Here it is now 2/26/09 and it sure is happening.Anybody know of somewhere we can go to get away from this madness!!God help us.

    • Wayne Keel

      We can’t wait until next year to change our direction. We must mobilize, march on DC, shutdown OUR government by freezing all spending, and hold an emergency election. Our government has been overthrown illegally by the communist with the help of Acorn, who falsified the vote last year. This is criminal and they should be put on trial and punished. Our fore fathers and every veteran who died for freedom in this country is crying out to us to do something and fast. Vietnam Veterans have a score to settle with these people, because they were the ones who spit on us and called us names when we came home from Vietnam. That anger still exist and we never got any closure on that war. Those radicals have forgotten about that, but we haven’t. Make a call to all veterans, especially those from Vietnam and remind them all that our country needs us. Cross all party lines and create the “CONSTITUTION PARTY” and run it in the emergency election. I’m serious!! This Obama admin is illegal and it’s past time to take the USA back. God needs to be put back in charge of all of us!

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      We’ll see if that is the solution that America wants in November it seems? PS: I agree with would be something that I’d love to see tried!

    • Jackal

      Blah blah blan blah….all of these explanations to save the country from the tyrants who let freedom be taken from them. It is probably impossible for the country to ever get that little item of the separation of religion and state back into practice, if it ever was. Until such time that happens there will never be a chance to sort out the reasons for decisions being made by logic and not being filtered through whatever god is in control of whatever myth is used for a basis of ignorance. The surprising thing is that hardly anyone even mentions this obvious situation. Not unlike the world’s other major disaster, just too many people. Solve these two problems and then the planet will have to work seriously to create some new ways to make living less tolerable. Which by the way is the nature of the species, if one is to believe history. For those who disagree, keep in mind and take warning, my god can whup your god!

  • Mung Lanctot

    Dear Mr. Bob Livingston,
    Thanks for telling the sad truth regarding the conditions that we are facing in the US, and the globe.
    The comment made by Steven Norvell seems to echo the past.  During the Clinton election, we were preached into believe that the economy was bad, and he won that election.
    I am very troubled with the state of things happening the US.  Are we being manipulated?

    What is the step we should take beside praying?

  • Grady Miller

    I hate to put a damper on Chuck m’s patriotic idea of a separate constitutional republic but the question of breaking away from the USA was settled long ago by our civil war. At that time the southern states that tried the idea were crushed militarily even though the agreement which brought states into the federal fold had guaranteed states the right to cecede if they wished to do so. In my mind the only possibility for saving the country lies in a benevolent military takeover of the federal government on the grounds that our governors are not adhereing to their oaths to protect and defend the constitution. This also, I think, is not likely.

    • Mic Helms

      The Civil war “failed” only when the Southern States weren’t allowed back into Congress. http://www.redamendment.com

      • eyeswideopen

        Mic Helms, you are promoting that anti-American LB Bork?? Are you crazy? He wants the corporations to loose the right to have property? Here are some of his quotes: “Abandon all Hope”, Give UP the Fight”, “Don’t Vote”, Let the Marxist-Democrats take control of the government” “Let them increase the Federal Income tax”, “The Capitalists are Communists, and the Communists are Capitalists” He is promoting Karl Marx manifesto of Abolition of Property. The organization that he founded “Peoples Awareness Coalition” is one of the most radical, aligning itself with radicals from Mexico, who want the US to fall into anarchy, so they can reclaim our land. He offers a deprograming course, and offers to help you, for $800.00 give up your American Citizenship. This man is using fear and lies to get rich and cause the down fall of this country. http://www.bellstclair.com/ferran/aztlan.html

  • http://www.keypower.us chuck m

    Grady, what do you propose then, just lay down because the civil war failed. Possibly we have more support that just 4 or 5 states now fighting against the majority and for the wrong cause. How can you win an argument when you have the enslavement of another human being as your main platform. I am a southerner and i feel the outcome of the Civil war was a just one due to the reason for the war. If you are going to oppose evil, it is helpfull to have right on your side. I think that a majority vote of the people would be a win if the question of whether we should start anew with a Constitutional government or continue with the current totally corrupt system we have now. I think most people understand that there is absolutely no future in the present direction of this country and that the corruption and dissreguard of our rights is so prevalent that this system is not repairable. Most people just feel helpless and have no place to turn. Please, if you have a ligitimate argument, i welcome it, but you should also offer a viable solution other than a direct military confrontation with the most powerfull military force on earth. There are still ways to approach this with the power of the vote of the people. The problem is that we are never asked the right questions or given a workable alternative when casting a ballot. We get the same old tired questions and the same old tired , Washington rhetoric, and Washington insiders as our candidates. The system is stacked against us from the start and we must do something drastic or we will be a Marxist country in the next 4-8 years. We are nearly there now. Chuck M

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      I unfortunately disagree with you somewhat! I believe that the slavery deal was planned from the beginning to bring the Federal Government power “over” the united states that created it. Reading all the writings of our founding fathers it is obvious that the seeds of the civil war were laid then and I believe that slavery was kept at that time just to use at a later date! That’s just politics! I’m not a racist and I do believe that the Blacks have been victimized more than ever credited, even with their own help ! However, we do need both State and Individual Rights to keep our freedoms, and I think such freedom may soon be gone; like Germany fell for such logic under Hitler and “Hell” followed!

  • Jeanine L.

    Unfortunately, I believe that if Obama is elected, we will no longer even have any freedom of speech. With no communication permitted unless the liberals sanction it, how will we communicate?

    • Ronna Sommers

      I will never forget the wonderful feeling I had the night Obama was elected! My husband and I were so happy ! He is a son any mother would be proud of. After 9/11, I thought Bush had a moment where he could command respect and compassion from the whole world – but no-all the waste of lives and money(billions) and eight YEARS of economic crap–wasted-all of it. And now, bless OUR President -(he is definitely a moderate), for Gods’sake, our
      nation was NOT founded by conservatives; they were flaming liberals!

      • American Citizen

        I will never forget the feeling of dread I had when Obama was elected. Exactly what I feared would happen is happening. If you can’t see how our country is sliding into socialism, you’ve got blinders on. The President of Russia warned us not to go that way.

      • JC

        I stood in amazed wonder at the sight of 100,000 mindless morons chanting Yes we can Yes we can (Zeig Heil Zeig Heil)
        Yes we can…what? Ruin the greatest nation the planet has ever known?
        We can “Hope” for “Change”?
        A (so called) American President advocating communism?

        And on the right, McCain?

        I knew we were screwed either way.
        And now there’s work to do.
        We have a country to rebuild, hopefully peacefully.

  • http://www.keypower.us Chuck m

    We will dissobey their laws and do as the constitution guarantees us the right. Civil dissobedience on all levels, and dont pay them a dime.
    chuck m.

    • Deborah

      Yep, I agree…if you don’t know local farmers and ranchers, I’d suggest you get a move on!

  • Theodore V.

    You evidently know the parable of the mustard seed.
    Matthew 13:31 – 32
    Mark 4:30 – 32
    Luke 18:18 – 19

    Maybe you meant the parable of the sower.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Maybe both of you would like to learn much more than you think that you all ready know by going to the following site: icyahweh

      Because “deception” also can well be in the very eyes of the beholder!

      • eyeswideopen

        Victor, thanks but I’ll just remain a good old boring Christian, calling God, God, and Jesus, Jesus. Your doctrine is a little too radical for me. But you have every right to believe what you want to.

        • Deborah

          Christianity is dead in the eyes of the government. Raid on churches, doggin out the pope for his sins, and the influx of Muslims, the nice ones will take good care of your 10 and below…the rest of us are infidels, no value at all!

  • Terry Neal

    +1 Chuck M. Salute!

  • Craig R

    Civil dissobedience on behalf of the Constitution? I’m in.  We need a leader I will follow.
    Craig R  

    • JC

      We need another Washington…another Jefferson and Adams.

  • DJ

    I, like many others, would like to make a difference, but the problem is so big it is hard to get thoughts around it and know what to do and how to do it.  My brother and I have talked about the loss of our freedoms, but we have trouble thinking of ways to organize.  I did have a thought last week.  We could start a coordinated organization at the states level and move from there. 

    A big problem with a lot of the populace; they are in denial that we are losing our basic rights as set forth in the constitution and some are even willing to give them up for so called security!  I say, security in our government?????  No way!

    • JC

      Kind of like “winning” your own enslavement isn’t it?

  • DAH

    If you do organize, better do it FAST because Obama will shut down the internet or shut down the people he does not want using it (I feel he will have spies everywhere).  He has lied about so much – even in his autobiography he created lies. 

    Maybe the people you KNOW who want this can call family or friends in another state or county, get them to start a committee – grow the committee – they each contact people in other states, etc. possibly have telephone conference calls.  You know the media is ruthless…anything they can print and sell.  So be careful and SNEAKY.

    • American Citizen

      Have you heard that Bill Ayres claimed he wrote Obama’s bio?

      • TOMMY FREEDOM

        A LITERARY EXPERT STATED ON RADIO THAT DREAMS OF MY FATHER WAS WRITTEN BY AYERS, HE COMPARED THE BOOK WITH A BOOK WRITTEN BY AYERS AND THE WORDS, SENTENCES, PARAGRAPHS AND STRUCTURE MATCHED, NUMBER OF WORDS PER SENTENCE ALSO MATCHED

        • eyeswideopen

          Tommy, show us the link where the expert made that statement.

  • Kit P

    What you’ve said so far about the economy makes sence to what I am experiencing.  I sent one of the many e-mails, etc. to Congress telling them I did not want the bail out.  I was afraid, but hey my parents survived the depression and lived to fight a very important war. I am also keenly aware that very rarely does Congress ever address the devaluation of the dollar, and certainly not at the same time they talk about the bail out  …. Oh sorry the “rescue”  …. or now it seems to be the “tax payer owned”  ….  Word speak seems to be the value of the day….rather than the dollar.

  • DAH

    I have not heard anything about all the fraud that was discovered in several states.  Is no one talking about that?  Was it just dropped?  I thought there would be an investigation because Obama probably did not really win the election.

    Please read articles on ibdedictorials.com

  • http://tamaraheater.com Tamara

    As I have stated before, it is absolutely insane of anyone to think about sending the irresponsible and criminals in D.C. any more of their funds via taxes, as we see how efficient they have been so far!  I mean….good grief, people have effectively stuck their heads in sand in hopes big brother will take care of them.  Good luck to you all.

    So many are believing in all those de-valuated dollars setting in their accounts will get then through…..they to are in for a rude awakening.

  • http://personalliberty Greg

    How would you not pay taxes, Tamara? I live in Saudi Arabia at the moment an plan to stay here for 4 years. Certainly not in the US as I do not want to contrbute to Husseins machine. Actually, I do have to pay a 14% tax for SS and some other such tax, but I still have to pay taxes of some proportion and I do not even enjoy the benefits of the US. How can the average citizen not pay taxes, short of working on a cash and barter basis? I’ve always had the feeling it did not matter who was in the whitehouse, that the debate between liberal and conservative was just smoke and mirrirs. A one world economic and religious system will happen regardless.

    ever get that feeling?

    • http://Personallibertysdigest Donna

      Yes I do get that feeling and it scares the crap out of me.

  • http://none Rose

    Just a not to say we need to do all we can short of civil war.  That is, we need to write, call, e-mail our representatives and senators.  We also need to write to the electors to ask them to join a law suite to make Obama come up with his birth certificate–certified from the state of Hawaii.  We also need to investigate the possibility that his passport is from Indonesia, that his mother gave up his US citizenship and thus opened the way for Sortoro to adopt him in Indonesia which made him an Indonesian citizen.  We need him to produce naturalization paper as well.

    A naturalized person can not hold the office of president.  We also need to enforce the Logan Act.  We also have more to go on–his Selective Service fraud.  See the news about that.

    Rose

    • http://Personallibertysdigest Donna

      I’m a bit confeused about this issue. Did his mother give up her citizenship? I always thought that a person born of an American citizen was automatically a citizen no matter where in this world they were born.

      • libertytrain

        Donna – you are not automatically an American Citizen just because your mom or dad were – if you are born on foreign soil – there’s more to it than that but look it up – it is fascinating.

        • American Citizen

          Why do you think Mexican women come here to have their babies? They’re called “anchor babies” because they were born on American soil and are automatically American citizens, even though the parents aren’t. That’s why it matters in what country Obama was born.

  • Chuck Gilliam

    Rabbit, Squirrel, Deer, Raccoon, are all very good, clean meats to eat, and they are free except for the price of a bullet!  Store up on canned corn, and beans, enough to last at least 90 days, and then SIT BACK AND RELAX.  DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT pay one bill, other than what is absolutely necessary to exist.  (Even home loans can be put off for 90 days, and candles can take the place of electricity, and you can store water as well as canned goods.)  It is the money changers, and Predators that have this country and the entire world under their thumb. If everyone refuses to pay another credit card payment, or any other payment whereby others are getting rich from your labors, We, the People, will be in control, once again, NOT them.  I really don’t think they will send in the National Guard and Army to shoot us for not paying our hard earned dollars to them.  If we just STAY HOME, DON’T EVEN GO TO WORK,  we can take back our country, peacefully and without firing a single shot.  But, we must be prepared to fire back if fired upon, and that means buying your guns and storing lots of ammo.  IF YOU WANT TO WIN, then DO IT!  Chuck G.

    • Eileen Pressler

      Right on, push this idea. It will work.

  • Chuck Gilliam

    Please go to website: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/11.08/rothschild/html

    If any of you are not aware of any of the information, then what you will read may shock you, and enrage you to ACT!  Chuck G.

  • Chuck Gilliam

    Try: http://www.silverbearcafe.com /private/11.08/rothschild/html   Chuck G.

  • Pat

    Chuck, you are very funny (11/22/08) but take your prozac.  What we see happening now was all fortold in the Bible.  Nothing we do will change the facts.  Jesus is our leader (rather we like it or not).  Oboma is just a player in the game.  READ YOUR BIBLE, GET WISE AND SIT BACK AND RELAX.  My advise: Get to know Jehovah and do what he wants us to do and we will all come out on top.  The world as we know it today will soon change.  I believe within a short period of time from now the next big change that will happen to us is the virtual elimination of (false) Religion: And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, (Babylon the Great, aka false religion) my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues (Revelation 18:4).  The collapse of business merchants will follow: The traveling merchants (big business of today) of these things, who became rich from her (Babylon the Great), will stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and will weep and mourn, saying, Too bad, too bad__the great city (Anglo-American World Power), clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet, and precious stone and pearl, because in one hour such great riches have been devastated! (Revelation 18: 15-17).  So, if riches are going to be devastated, why fight for it.  Jehovah’s day is right around the corner! Get right with Him or face the devastation.  The next time one of those Jehovah’s Witnesses’ knocks on your door listen up, it could save your life and all in your household. I shuned these people for a long time but than one day I listened.  I see these people are wise and they know the truth.  I now stand with them and have given up my million dollar life style.  Oh, I still live in a million dollar townhouse and have many possessions but now I’m not afraid of losing them or just walking away from them.  I know now that I have something far more precious and I will give up all of my material things in order to have a good relationship with my creator.  In exchange for my whole souled love for Him, He promises to give me things far better than I have now.  Read Isaiah 65: 21-24 than read Revelation 21:4.  Yes! the things that we all prayed for as kids (Matthew 6:9, 10), that Kingdom to come.  That Kingdom is now at hand!!
    Pat    

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      FYI: Both of the names Jehoveh and Jesus Christ were invented in Rome by Petrus Galatinus for the Roman Catholic Church in 1520! These names were then ratified by the Pope. So if you rely on them; I certainly hope that you are a Roman Catholic!
      PS: The King James version of the Bible was written in 1611 by a Queen, not a king. In addition, it was a translation of the Hebrew Scripture and not an inspired version, or worse yet; it was translated from a Greek version!

  • JUANITA

    12/20/2008 american have sowed the wind and now it is reaping the w hirlwind,american was founded upon in GOD we trust, but now any thing goes,all peoples was created by GOD from one blood .i have lived in this world for 70th years and never have i seen so much raceism as when a black man won the presidensity look into your own heart and be true to yourself if you know how to.if you really thought for your why are we in a war that we entered into on a group of lies.use common since, would you allow some to come into your home and harm you if you had weapons to stop them,no you would not.so be for real and stop passing the buck.

    • JC

      It isn’t about racism, it’s about communism and enslavement.

  • http://Ihavenone Lee

    I have read all of your comments and they are all enlightening, but I must say in my opinion, we definitely are living in the latter days. I see no “man made” escapement from the calamity that is about to come upon us world wide. I see no return to the Constitutional Government of our forefathers. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are, for all intrinsic purposes, destroyed. Executive Orders and multitudes of alphabet soup bureaus issuing unconstitutional regulations and interpreting them as laws and Judges who have decided that they can legislate laws rather than interpret them, all of which have now become the “illegal laws” of the land. Fraudulent taxes have drained all of us, rich and poor. Big Brother is in command whether or not we accept or believe it. We now live in a Police State equal to the Brown Shirt days of Germany during the formation of Hitler’s Nazi Socialist government. Our children have been brain washed from Kindergarten to High School to College and have no idea what is happening to this country. Since I was a former High School History and Government teacher I can verify this. This is one of the reasons I left the Teaching Profession. I am a conservative Christian, an Honorably Discharged Air Force Veteran of the Korean War (definitely not a Police action) and I believe that God’s Word, as found in the King James Holy Bible, is without error. Today’s events and situations are all foretold in Bible Prophesy. I am looking forward, with great anticipation to the imminent return of our Saviour Jesus Christ. As far as I am concerned, only Jesus can solve this evil mess we now find ourselves in. There is no difference in the Republican and Democrat parties. Both are controlled by the “One World Government” Guru’s (CFR, Trilateralist, Illuninati, and Mafia criminals), all of which are under Satan’s direction. My wonderful wife, of 57 years, and I have been blessed with four fabulous children, seven outstanding grandsons and one “perfect” granddaughter, all professing, born again Christians, whom I will defend till my death from these evil satanic monsters. My plea to you who are so concerned about the events of today and our fearful future, I implore you to spend lots of time in prayer to our Lord, repenting of your past sins, asking for His forgiveness and pledging yourself to live the life you have remaining under the direction and guidance of Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. I also believe it is no sin to be prepared by laying in food, medications, weapons and ammunition. You are an infidel if you do not provide for and protect your family from the devil’s hordes. Don’t you wish we still had brave, honest and truthful patriots in Congress like Patrick Henry who was not afraid to utter such words as, “I know not what course others may take, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH” right in the face of England, the world’s greatest power of that time. We may still have one such legislator like Henry, Ron Paul. If only the public had realized what a spectacular, honest and truthful leader he would have been as our President. But then, we still needed a congress full of such men as Paul to right the wrongs of presidents and congress from the time of Wilson to Obama. There have been several “One World Governments” in the past, none of which have succeeded or lasted. Rest assured, the one which Satan is currently trying to implement will also fail. I am now 77 years old and have little time left on this earth, but I hope to see the only lasting “One World Government” which will be that which is Ruled over by our Lord Jesus Christ. May God Bless and Keep each and everyone of you. AMEN!!!

    • Thomas

      Well stated and very true.God Bless You.

    • Dan

      You say “that universal truth is a myth. The truth is in the eyes of the beholder.”

      Thank you for challenging me to defend my ideas.

      Law is the set of enforced rules under which a society is governed. Law is one of the most basic social institutions—and one of the most necessary. No society could exist if all people did just as they pleased, without regard for the rights of others. Nor could a society exist if its members did not recognize that they also have certain obligations toward one another. The law thus establishes the rules that define a person’s rights and obligations. The law also sets penalties for people, who violate these rules, and it states how government shall enforce the rules, and it states how government shall enforce the rules and penalties. However, the laws enforced by government can be changed. In fact, laws frequently are changed to reflect changes in a society’s needs and attitudes.

      First, we need to explore the idea of “Natural Law”. Natural law is the idea that people have certain rights that cannot be taken away. It probably began thousands of years ago. This theory states that a natural order exists in the universe because all things are created by nature, or God. (To appreciate this idea you first have to accept that there is a God) Everything has its own qualities and is subject to the rules of nature to achieve its full potential. According to this theory, anything that detracts from a persons human qualities, or prevents their full achievement, violates the laws of nature.

      The ancient Greek philosophers and the writers of the Old Testament stressed that there is a higher law than human law. In the first century B.C., the Roman philosopher Cicero insisted that this higher natural law is universal and can be discovered through human reasoning. (It is God’s law, which he reveals to all people through their reasoning. It is not learned. It is divinely given) This led to the idea that government power has limits, and that people and governments everywhere are bound by natural law.

      Some of the most historic English legal documents are based on the principles of natural law. The earliest and most famous was the Magna Carta, which the king approved against his will in 1215. The document placed the king himself under the law. In 1628, the English Parliament drew up a Petition of Right. The petition claimed that certain actions of the king, such as levying taxes without the consent of Parliament is unconstitutional.

      Natural Rights—Natural law has always stressed the duties, more than the rights, of governments and individuals. But during the late 1600’s, the natural law tradition began to emphasis natural right. The change was brought about largely through the writings of the English philosopher John Locke.

      Locke argued that governmental authority depends on the people’s consent. According to Locke people originally lived in a state of nature with no restrictions on their freedom. Then they came to realize that confusion would result if each person enforced his or her own rights. (“The truth is in the eyes of the beholder”, your statement.) People agreed to live under a common government, but not to surrender their “rights of nature” (my universal rights) to the government. Instead they expected the government to respect these rights, especially the rights of life, liberty and property. (Note: this is stated as unalienable rights by our founding fathers, our esteemed leaders, in the Declaration of Independence.) (“Unalienable” means it cannot be separated from the individual, because it was divinely given by God in the Natural Laws, which he revealed to all people through divine revelation, through their power of reason.) Locke’s idea of limited government and natural rights became part of the English Bill of Rights (1689), the French Declaration of Rights of Man (1789), and the U.S. Bill of Rights (1781).

      Today many scholars reject the natural law and natural rights theories. These scholars believe that all laws—including those guaranteeing civil rights—are simply devices that people find convenient or useful at a particular time. Nevertheless, nearly all civil right laws have resulted from the theories of natural law and natural rights.

      So that I know how to proceed with my argument I need to know from you if you believe there is a God or not– or are you just unsure?
      Are you familiar with the concepts of “absolutism” and “relativism?

    • http://personallibertynews Duane

      GOD BLESS LEE ! Thank You.

  • http://stewartlaine@yahoo.com Laine Stewart

    Beware, the end times.

  • Myke

    This has all been purposely done. It has been coming to this for years.It is to establish the New World Order. The elites want to turn America into a third world country. They want to sit in their lavish guarded homes on the hill and look down on poverty just as China, Mexico, etc do. That is why they have overrun us with illegals and given them our tax money in form of welfare, SS, free schooling, free medical, etc. They caused this housing slump to make our homes worthless and now the 40 % of the homes that were sold to illegals and welfarers will have their homes paid for by the housing stimulus. By us. They refused to add in E-verify in the stimulus bill which means illegals can be hired for any jobs that might arise. Right now Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard, Pfiser, etc are laying off American workers and keeping and hiring Visa workers for low wages. Even with all the Americans who are out of work our government is still passing out work Visas. Illegals are not just taking jobs Americans won’t do. They are taking jobs Americans won’t do for slaves wages. Americans fought and sometimes died for decent wages and safer working conditions. But now big business wants to rob us of that. They bring in illegals and Visa workers to bring down wages. And once B.O declares amnesty and open borders we will all be in line with illegals trying for a low paying job.
    They will establish the North American Union that connects Mexico, Canada and the U.S. They have already got their European Union and it is very close to destroying all those countries. And they will establish the New World Order.
    As for what we do about it…I don’t know but we damn better do something. Go to NumbersUSA, Fair, Heritage House. Go to the grassroots places that are fighting amnesty. And above all let tell everyone you know what the government is doing to us.

    • http://e-mailnewsletters joe

      you got it right and people are so stupid, ignorant or lazy they don’t even want to take a look at what is out there for all to see, if i could tell people to watch one movie it would be the big picture(final cut) it pretty much lays it all out for you to see and understand. we have been misslead with lies,propaganda,bullshit and distractions for decades if not longer. if we don’t unite to save this once great nation we are doomed as a counrty and people, there will be no future and it will not get better. the television is called a boob tube for a reason, search out the truth and it will hit you right in the face. WAKE-UP PEOPLE!!! you better get prepared because it is going to get way worse then it is now and it won’t be far off. joe

  • Arthur Clark

    You appear to be just another American who believes in liberty. There are so many sites which also present similar views and want monitary support.

    I have joined the Constitution Party. I believe there is real hope in a party that believes firstly in the God of Israel and His son, Jesus; secondly in the Constitution and thirdly in the family. There is no possibility of maintaining this country without these basics.

    If we don’t join together, we will lose this nation.

  • Dan

    We had better get organized QUICKLY! Have you been to a Sporting Goods store or a Gun Shop in the last couple of weeks? The shelves are bare – and that was very HIGH priced ammuntion! If you are looking for an AR-15 rifle – ditto- OUT OF STOCK! Oh, and if you reload your own ammo – ditto, stock is sparse and what they do have has increased another 20% in price over already over inflated prices. It makes me wonder – just what is going on?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Come to Indiana. Weve got guns and ammo. The political correct left wing liberal pacifists appeasers have no holds here. Our sporting goods stores and gun shops have guns and ammo.

  • pageantry

    It is not a matter of politics; it is a matter of survival.
    The American People have elected to the office of the President a “Pied Piper” who draws his power from the “dark side”.
    He and his followers are well on their way of changing America from a freedom loving, constitutionally bound, entrepreneurial giant into a dictatorially controlled nation.
    Our Founding Fathers through our Constitution gave power to the “people” and limited the powers of the elected few.
    Under President Obama, power is changing hands by way of new laws and inordinate taxation of the family unit. He is driving future generations into the slavery of massive taxation without representation.
    There are evil people in every society that must be contained. We are now in the “Perfect Storm: of envy, greed, immorality and class warfare, conducted by Obama.
    He is the master of deceit. His tools are the lie, spreading fear, the false promise and the rewriting of our Constitution through the judiciary.
    Like many despots before him he has little regard for the sacredness of life. He has many, many enablers: the Media Dupes, the political “want-to-be” and the naïve who have not studied history.
    His acts are immoral clothed in positive rhetoric.
    His goal is a socialist paradise controlled by the elitist few who have no regard for religion or justice.
    He is doing everything in his power to encourage dependency on government.
    This is a personal job security program for politicians. When you look at his acts and ignore his false rhetoric, you see the evil of his intent.
    He is seducing the foolish into thinking that he is: “their messiah” who will end their suffering.
    When in truth, he is leading them to perdition.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Draco

    Well sir It’s obvious who the culprits are.What can the American people do?Anybody remember Bunker Hill ,Lexington, Valley Forge? Our American Heritage is what we fall back on.How about A. I. M. what happened to them ? We must stand together, race is not the issue.We all bleed the same?Land of the free home of the brave.Let us stay on top of things like you said Mr Livingston and stick together.

  • http://N/A Paul

    Bob,

    In these economic times I use the liberal agenda to increase my portfolio 135 to 350%
    It’s not hard, just study what the Clintons did to Merc and Microsoft (to name a few) with the mainstream media as thier hounds of destruction.
    Right now AIG and Bank of America are the hot stocks to buy.
    If your smart you’ll bank on the Democrats for your profits in the market at corporate news of destruction.
    They are after GM next and as soon as they get out of Chapter whatever (next day) buy all you can of there stock, example – American Airlines

  • val cousino

    Oh, you crazy conservatives with your long -winded bizarre theories. Where do you even get this stuff? I don’t see anyone quoting their sources of information. And hitting people over the head with the bible may make you feel better, but it is not helping or solving anything. You wild and crazy guys can even misconstrue the bible. As I recall, we are supposed to be getting along and supporting each other, not initiating more wars and destruction. As for the assertion that the rich create jobs, since when? They are only interested in grabbing all the money they can with both hands and running away with it. They would rather hire a immigrant terrified of deportation so that they can pay them below minumum wage and get away with it, than hire an american citizen, because than they would have to pay them a living wage. Tax those suckers up the butt. They have been getting away with far too much, for far too long, and our time has finally come. We will be subjected no longer. The tide is turning in our favor, and there’s a lot more of us than there is of you. The truth survives, and lies never win. The day of reckoning has come, the emperor has no clothes. We shall overcome, not someday, but RIGHT NOW. All your lying,cheating, killing, and yes- sinning is now coming to light, and there will be retribution. We are gathering our forces and creating solidarity, and the walls will come tumbling down. So get ready, cause here we come. Anyway thanks for all the laughs, those ridiculous theroies would’nt even make it into a book of fairy tales.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You make your big lying statement “when did the rich create jobs?” Are you nuts. Lets examine just a few, to enlighted your obvious ignorant butt. Walmarts owners are rich. They have created millions upon millions of jobs in this country. IBM’s owners are rich. They have created millions of jobs in this country. Bill Gates is rich. He has millions of people working for him, because hey pal, I guess he created those jobs, didnt he? I mean, Obama didnt create them. No sir, the rich guy, Bill Gates created them. The kid that owns facebook and is a billionaire, he has created a million jobs. Ray Kroc that owned McDonalds before he died, created billions of jobs. Yet I will assure you sir, no poor man creates jobs. The rich create jobs, and I for one and thankful for their hard work in educating themselves, taking loans and the risk to start up a business, not knowing whether they would succeed or lose it all, and they have made lives comfortable for millions of people by being successful at what they do, and working hard and applying themselves. And how people like you can demonize them, I just dont know. Do you not want to be paid a fair wage for the hours you work? So why shouldnt Walmart make a fair profit from their hard work? If idiots like you had your way, all these big profitable business’s would be shut down, and no one would have anything. Then who you gonna blame, Bush? Gimme a break.

  • Danny

    Dear Liberty: There are two sets of books. The one they Use ,And the One we are aware of.-They are concious of Wealth,And the mindset they use- Does not include us. Birds of A Feather Flock Togather, And they Use Jet’s.

    • http://www.minutemansociety.org Bob Thayer

      Would sure like the opportunity to get y’all’s opinion of some links that explain how we got to where we are. (Little to do with Dem. or Rep.; just the series of congresses over the past half century plus a few rich bankers and their Council on Foreign Relations.)

      If anyone’s interested, email me at endthefed@hotmail.com

      Oh, some of the links at the website have been eliminated owing to google’s acquiring YouTube…and copywrite infringements alledged by another outfit.

  • http://stevenartus@gmail.com steven artus

    I have been reading all of the above posts, and it seems that I have underestimated the American people. For a long time I had been under the impression, that for the most part, since, “The One”, as Oprah Winfrey calls him, was elected, I honestly believed, that I was a relic, a dinasaur, the last of a DEAD breed, aka, ” A PATRIOTIC, AMERICAN, CHRISTIAN, HETEROSEXUAL, INDEPENDENT, CONSERVATIVE, CONSTITUTIONALIST, GUN LOVER. Thats who I am, thats what I do, and I will not appoligize.

    And if you don’t mind, I would like to renew a little history,okay? I would like to start with Harry S. Truman. Who was HST? How did he become President? I can honestly say, “I don’t know”. The first I remember of him, was seeing him in the Oval Office, looking like a young owl with coke bottle bottom eye glasses perched behind his desk, reading a speach,(they didn’t have tele-prompters in those days) and making his famous statement,AND getting his first 15 minutes of fame when he said<”THE BUCK STOPS HERE”. Thats how he got the name,”Give em hell Harry”.

    He got his second 15 minutes of glory, when he dropped the pill on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and won WWII, and it could have been done without the, “BOMB” because looking back, if we had invaded Japan, there would not have been enough military there to fight us, and they could never have mobilized the civilian populace to fight us, so, father than fight, they would have surrendered, and needless lives would not have been lost.Our sheer numbers would have been sufficient.

    One of the things I forgot to tell you was that HST, was a cavelry officer in the National Guard, a Captain to be exact, He was also a member of the KKK (just like Bobby Byrd of West Virginia) and a HABADASHERY SALESMAN, in Skiboki Hights, in Lower Slobovia, (where ever that is).Then some how, he got into politics, and some how he was elected president. By that time we were in the Korean War, and General MacArthur was the CinC over there. Well, I don’t remember exactly why, but old Mac went to some God frosaken island in the Pacific to meet withthe Anointed One, and they got into an arguement. Mac, wanted to go into Manchuria, China and into Russia and kick ass and take numbers, but HST was against that idea, and he attained his third 15 minutes of glory, and fired the good general. After all, who the hell was he (the general) to tell him(HST) how to run a war, Hey, he was aCaptain of cavelry in the National Guard, and he knew about war, and he knew as much if not more than some general, well he showed him a thing or two.Any how, I remember seening Mac give his farewell speach, where he said,” Old soldiers never die, they just fade away”. Yep, that was a sad day for the USA, but a good day for communism all the way around.

    Then came General DD Eisenhower. He was the Supreme US Commander in Europe.The fact is, old IKE was an armchair general. He prefered to sit in some far off, stuffy, study in front of a crackling fire out of harms way, and let people like General George S. Patton get dirty fighting wars. You know, Mac Arthur was a show off, but he didn’t mind getting dirty. When old Mac returned to the Phillipines, I think the picture fo him walking ashore at Leyte Beach, was shot 32 times before it was deemed right, but they had to practically drag him to the boat to take him to Australia. He just didn’t want to leave.And soon after, Corregador, wher Mac was fell to the Japanese.Anyhow, Ike was a poor excuse for a president. Gen, Patton would have been a better choice, BUT as it happened, he was involved in a auto accident,(so called) and was the ONLY ONE TO BE INJURED, and if you read the book, TARGET:PATTON, you will get the same impression I had after reading the book, and after hearing the first time of Gen. Pattons accident and death…….. he was murdered. And I will give you any odds you want, that Roosevelt’s finger prints are all over his death, because Roosevelt hated Patton with a passion, because he knew Patton not only did not trust the Russians but he hated them as much as Roosevelt hated him. Don’t forget, Roosevelt’s adminestration had more card carrying communists than the Soviet Union all told, and he (Roosevelt) and his “Uncle Joe” Joeseph Stalin were like “KissinCousins”. It is truely a shame that Patton Died, he had more time in service and more training, was a better soldier and officer than any of his peers, and although his men refered to him as,”OLD BLOOD AND GUTS”, our blood, his guts, they never the less had a deep respect for him. He and that pansey General Montgomery (Great Briton) had a running fued, and Monty hated him as much as anyone. I believe they were racing to Rome and Monty vowed to beat Patton. Well, Patton started what became known as, “The Red Ball Express”, where our vehicles ran 24/7 supplying our troops much needed food, fuel, ammo, water, medical supplies,etc, etc. and Patton won. Patton, never was one to hold back his feelings, he said what was on his mind, and didn’t care who’s feet he stepped on, and that I believe is why he was indeed murdered.

    Then of course we had Nixon the Kennedy’s, the Bush’s (I & II) That usefull idiot Johnson, who escallated the Viiet Nam war to make a name for himself and according to an article I read in a paper, way back, deep inside, about Johnson dying on his ranch in Texas, of all things,”lead poisoning”. The next day of course the headlines told a different story @heart attack? in very large letters. And of course we all know about the Kennedy’s and Camalot.

    • http://shortmaryann78@hotmail.com Maryann

      Steve, I liked the way you talked about the history of the past with great humor. I lived through all of it too and the games these people play is for keeps and not one of them is going to have anyone take a one-upman-ship on them. Your funny.

    • American Citizen

      Wasn’t HST vice-president under FDR and became president when FDR died?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I dont understand how older Americans hold Roosevelt in such high esteem. We are still paying for his mis-deeds all these year later. He was a huge liar, who lied to congress, lied to the American people, all to get his way and do what he wanted. It is because of him the government still illegally takes federal income tax from our checks, as it was set up as voluntary and was never ratified and made a law. And he did have his communist ties. Next to Clinton he was the worst president weve ever had.

  • http://stevenartus@gmail.com steven artus

    The point I am trying to make, is, what exactly did these people have that made them eligable to be the president, and oh yes, I cimpletely forgot all about little Jimmy Carter, the peanut farmer.Really, take a good long look at them ant tell me what qualified them to be president? Sure, the Kennedy’s, the Bush’s, Johnson, Nixon, Truman all held political offices, but what were they known for? What was their claim to fame?What did they do that was so spectacular that they were elevated to a position where they were now so lofty that they could be elevated to the office of president? Nothing. They did absolutely nothing that any other senator or congressman couldn’t do, so what was the big deal? With the Kennedy’s, it was money. Their father was a bootlegger in his younger days, bringing whiskey into the US during prohibition, and earning him some pretty big bucks. Then of course he got into politics and it was all down hill from there Being a Navy hero played real well in Bean Town, and daddy’ money bought a lot of support AND VOTES.

    WWII was over and Ike was a retired general, and much ado was made about his military career etc. etc. and who cares anyway. If it were Patton it would have made bigger and better headlines, but Patton was dead, and MacArthur was all but forgotten. Jimmy peanut Carter was a navy lieutenant, but I don’t ever remember hearing about WHAT EXACTLY JIMMY PEANUT CARTER DID IN THE NAVY. I guess his job was so top secret no one was allowed to discuss it. On the other hand, maybe the couldn’t discuss it for fear of embarassing the Navy. We know Clinton was a rapist and a preditor, but since he and his hippy (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) wife were darlings of the liberal, left wing, democratic, politically correct, wingnuts, no matter what Bubba did no one was going to say anything about it. He didn’t get impeached for treason like he should have, he got impeached (sortof) for having oral sex with a s-t-o-o-p-i-d inturn who THOUGHT he was going to marry her.For selling out the US to the Chinese communists he should have been put against a wall and shot.Unfortunately,she is still in government, and he is not, at least not that you’d notice. Since “The One” appeared, Bubba isn’t too popular these days. Bubba was really proud, when he was refered to as the ,”First Black President”, well it’s ok Bubba you still are the first, It so happens, The One, has 50% white blood, 47% Arab blood and 3% black blood, which doesn’t quite quallify him to be called a (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) let alone a Black man.

    And as I have said many, MANY times before and today I saw where some very intelligent young lady who knows how to read also KNOWS that THE ONE is an Indonesian citizen because he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soertoro, and his name is not Barak Obama, but Barry Soertoro also because he was adopted by his stepfather, and he was using Barry Dunham at the time of his adoption, not Barak Obama. And because Barry Soertoro is his legal name, by using Barak Obama, he is commiting FRAUD BIG TIME. Now, all I have to do is to get everyone
    to…no, we are not going to sit around the camp fire and sing KUMBAYA, we are all going to raise hell with Washington, with our elected officials, get them off of their dead asses, and FORCE The One to produce his birth certificate AND his college and university records and show everyone the truth about his birth in Kenya and his FOREIGN STUDENT LOANS, along with his Indonesian passport with a FOREIGN STUDENT VISA. Thats another thing that brilliant young lady brought up, his passport……..from Indonesia. I forgot to get her name, and I really feel bad about that. To tell you the truth, it is almost 1AM, and I am getting very tired so I’m going to call it a day, but I will be back tomorrow and continue, and I will be sure to get that young ladies name I GUARENTEE IT, and when I say it that way, you can believe it.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Isnt it amazing that this guy has now spend nearly 200 thousand dollars in legal fees, fighting to keep from having to produce college papers and a birth certificate? Now just why would some one blow that kind of cash, to hide something? I guess thats it, he has something to hide. And it is sickening that our so called press, the liberal left wing democratic propaganda machines of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC amongst others, are not digging and digging into this, with the same fervor they did when they were trying to destroy Sarah Palin and her family, but couldnt find anything? And here, this guys dirt is right there in front of God and everyone, for all the world to see, and yet they give him a free pass. This should be an afront to any America loving citizen, and should show them just exactly what the democratic party is made of, and turn them wholly away from these evil buffoons.

  • http://stevenartus@gmail.com steven artus

    Okay, here we go. On 17 Nov. 2008 a young lady named Rose, did apost about The Dalibama and she said that WE needed to find out the truth about his birth, and whether or not he was really an American citizen. she also made mention of his adoption by Lolo Soertoro, and how that made him an Indonesian Citizen, and his school records. These are all things that I have brought up repeatedly, but no one seems to be home and listening to me.The only difference between Rose and myself, is I went into a lot more detail, and I’ll do it again for those of you that are still half asleep.

    First of all, if the Dalibama was born in Honolulu like everyone would like the entire world to believe, WHY DID HIS MOTHER GO TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN BORN, AND ASK FOR A BIRTH CERTIFICATE? All she got was a certificate of live birth, which does not have a doctors signature or the seal of Hawaii, and does not prove citizenship. The Dalibama scratched around like a rat in a cheese factory looking for an out, and Facebook came to the rescue and FOUND A REAL ,LIVE , LIVING, TRUE TO LIFE HONEST TO GOODNESS BIRTH CERTIFICATE FOR THE ONE. The only problem was and is, first of all, ythe Dalibama was born in 1961, and ythere was no such thing as laser printing, and it has been found that that particular birth certificate was laser printed, and it was also found out that The One spent $80,000.00 for a $10.00 birth certificate. I have also told people how, by using a bio of the doctor, you could find out if the birth certificate was a fake, and the good doctor was not in fact thhe original,”Doogie Howser, M.D.” but again no one was home and no one was listening.

    I went into a lot of detail about “Barry” and his life in Indonesia. for example, I talked about his schooling and the fact that he went to a Catholic school FIRST, and then when money got tight because Lolo lost his job because he was on the wrong side of the government, and when his side got thrown out and the other side won, Lolo got thrown out also, and Barry went to a public school, wherer he had to learn a lot of Islamic subjects. At that time a guy named Sukarno took over from a guy named Suharto, (it’s easy to confues the two), and Sukarno was a devout Muslim. Because of this he came up with certain rules that no one dared to oppose.
    For one thing, he made it manditory for ALL INDONESIAN CITIZENS TO LEARN ABOUT THERE HERATAGE, and that ment that everyone was to devote X number of hours per week to studying about their heratage whether they likd it or not. He also decreed that ONLY INDONESIAN CITIZENS COULD ATTEND SCHOOL FROM K THROUGH UNIVERSITY. There was no arguements, his word was law.
    So among other things, although the public school WAS NOT A MADRAS the students HAD to learn various Islamic subjects including Islamic Law, Reading the Holy Koran in Arabic no less and memorize JUST LIKE IN ISLAM, IN A MADRAS. So for one thing, Barry knows that the Holy Koran says,”ANYONE WHO CONVERTS FROM ISLAM TO ANOTHER RELEGION IS GUILTY OF APOSTY AND MUST BE KILLED”. So how come Barry is still alive and living? Well, for starters some goody-two-shoer, (I don’t recall his name) is trying to side step that law and says that the Dalibama converted BEFORE HE WAS 18 YEARS OLD. Well, it aint gonna work. for one thing Ayman al Zawarhi knows when he converted, and all he did was to call him, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice,”HOUSE NEGRO’S”. The Dalibama is needed to incorperate Sharia law, remove the Constitution and the Billof Rights, and turn America into the United States of Islam, which aint never gonna happen, PERIOD.

    The main reason no one is making a move to oust the Dalibama is because EVERYONE IS AFRAID THAT IF THEY EVEN HINT AT KICKING HIS BLACK (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY WILL BE BRANDED,”RACIST”S”, and no one wants that. BUT, you can’t be branded a racist for exposing an imposter and a USURPER. As far as the liberals are concerned, there are at present, 44 members of congress and the senate in the Democratic party who know and have known the Dalibama is not an American citizen,BUT, they don’t want to give up the POWER. Am I making any sense, or is anyone even listening? At prersent, there are five books written about Barry, and the last one I read, is titled,”welcome to obamaland, i’ve seen your future and it does’nt work”. It is written by James Delingpole who happens to be British. So, you say, “Whats a Brit doing writing about OUR future”? Well, it seems that under the guidence of Tony Blair our George Bush’s POODLE,Mr. Delingpole has been living OUR future for the last 10 or more years. Briton has already gone through what we are beginning to go through under Barry”s guidence. And I storngly urge you to buy it or go to your local library and check it out. What have you got to lose? This book SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING for each and every American citizen who gives a fat rats (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) about America.

    • http://shortmaryann78@hotmail.com Maryann

      Steven I still love you. You say it well and you made me laugh and made my day maybe the next week.

      Maryann

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Your right. The news agencies are scared of his color, and his fellow libs are afraid because they depend on the black vote for survival, and basically he gets that leverage to help him get by that people of color seem to get these days. In the beginning it was a struggle to be treated equal, but now, equal isnt enough. He is afforded extra because because are so scared they will be called racist, for doing the right thing and exposing him. I dont care what color he is, if he aint an American citizen, he has to go. If he lied about college he has to go. Has nothing to do with color.

  • Jerry

    It seems like we can all agree that both parties are corrupt and there are no checks and balances anymore. The people need to exercise their rights and make our politicians accountable. Not the ones we have now NEW ONES!! We need to stop arguing and come together. Michael said it perfect when he said we need a thorough cleaning of the houses, why not the whole hill???? Lets start with changing our voting status to independent and restoring our rights by voting different people into office. After all we keep voting the same people in year after year. How about instituting some term limits for anyone holding office. The fact that we have people in office that have served 17 terms is ridiculous!!! Its our country, they work for us, so lets stand up for our rights. Power to the people!!

  • Robert

    Let me say first off that I am very impressed with the quality of thought expressed on this site. The concepts are very sophisticated and the people expressing them could be considered erudite exect for one glaring problem.
    PLEASE LEARN TO SPELL!! No matter how educated and well informed your opinion, you are almost automatically considered a dufus when you don’t take the time to check your spelling of simple words.
    If you can’t figure out how to use your spell checker program to proofread your submissions, take a few bucks and buy a dependable dictionary and keep it next to your key board. No prejudice to libs or cons, we can all learn to spell.
    Robert

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Ive won many spelling bee’s in my youth, and sometimes I spell things wrong in here, because my mind gets working faster than my fingers type. But sir, that doesnt make me a dufus. Worse than spelling mistakes, are those that call people names, like dufus, when they dont even know them.

  • Robert

    Sorry about the fat fingered spelling mistake. I know that exect should be “except.” Maybe next time I will proofread my own stuff closer.
    Thanks again. Robert

    • American Citizen

      My Mac spellchecks all words automatically and underlines a misspelling in red. But sometimes, even if the word is spelled correctly, it’s still wrong because there are words that sound alike or are spelled correctly even if not the word meant. Misspellings don’t bother me as I can still get the gist of their meanings. People type fast in order to get their post in so it doesn’t appear so far up that it won’t get read.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thank you, I feel the same way. I have done many posts, and after hitting the submit button, I notice I made a mistake. To which I say, shoot, then acknowledge that Im a human and we make mistakes. Some people I guess cannot tolerate mistakes, and thats sad.

  • Ronna Sommers

    Val-i totally agree with you! I guess I am a liberal- I used to
    be a republican! Look at what they are now- embarassing, isn’t it! A bunch of screaming lunatics!
    Hang tough! These people probably would not want their mothers to vote, either. And they’re probably
    against human rights in general!

    • American Citizen

      I guess you like the direction this country is going. Ignorance ignores warnings.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      If you agree with what this current admin is doing, and the liberal agenda the democrats are shoving down peoples throats, then Im sorry that satan has the blinders on your eyes and ears where you obviously cannot see or hear the truth. Too bad for you.

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST CHARLES HAAK

    I LOVE IT RONNA,I LOVE TO HEAR THE REPUBLICANS WHINEING AND CRYING ,AND THE TWO WORST OF THE LOT IS RUSH LIMBAUGH,AND HANNIDY THEIR THEORY IS IF YOU START EARLY, AND KEEP REPEATING THE BIG LIE THAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA WILL HAVE THEIR IDEAS IMPLANTED SO DEEPLY IN THEIR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND, THAT ON ELECTION DAY THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY VOTE REPUBLICAN. HANNIDY IS NOT AS BAD AS RUSH, CAUSE EVERY NOW AND THEN HIS TRUE PATIOTISM COMES OUT. BUT RUSH LIMBAUGH BELEIVES IN NOTHING BUT HIS OWN PERSONAL WEALTH. HE HATES THE IDEA THAT THE WORKING CLASS HAS THINGS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY (THAT THEY PAY THEMSELVES,AS THEY WORK)AND HE HATES UNIONS,WHICH IS WHERE THE MOST HIGHLY SKILLED CRAFTSMAN COME FROM IN OUR GREAT NATION. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE REASON THE DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER NOW,IS BECAUSE THE GREEDY REPUBLICANS COULDN’T COVER THEIR TRACKS IN THEIR SHADY DEALS.I DON’T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OBAMA IS DOING, BUT HIS HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE,AND THAT’S WITH THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.ONE LAST THOUGHT, IF THE ILLEGALS WERE SENT BACK HOME,THERE WOULD BE NO UNEMPLOYEMENT PROBLEMS….PERIOD!!!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      How did you like the way we whined at the polls in November, by the millions mind you. And Im really sure your going to like the way we whine in 2012, when we vote the Kenyan out of office, along with the rest of his gestapo socialists. Then they will be in the unemployment line with you collecting welfare and foodstamps, which I gather you do often, since your statements show no evidence of any education or wisdom what so ever.

  • Charlene

    His heart is in the right place? Are you serious?

    He is a politician, a career politician, a lawyer, from arguably the most corrupt city in the nation. He doesn’t think he needs to supply his birth certificate to the people who voted him in. What arrogance! I don’t claim to know where his heart is, but it isn’t in “the right place.” Not for America.

    • paulette edwards

      Obama is a disgrase to America is the worse President ever.He doesnt care what he does to the United States.Palosie is right there with him they try making people do things they dont want like this health care thing they got going is NOT a good thing every doctor and nurse Ive talked to even says it isnt good.Then Obama stands up with these doctors and nurses telling people it is a good thing wonder how much he payed them to stand there.Bottom line they need to stop doing special favors and waistful spending its all about money and how much power they can get.only reason he got ther was he was going to be first black President big deal.If he was honest would be a different hting BUT he is a showman and has put us farther in debt>He keeps putting the blame on bush.But he is to blame himself.HE A DISGRACE To america and the people of the united states.HES LIKE THE PIED PIPER AND HE LED THEM TO SLAUGHTER.Senators and all need to do what is right for the country not what they can gain for themselves.They are a disgrace to America.

      • American Citizen

        I’m not sure those were real doctors as the Admin. supplied the white coats.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He cannot supply it, or he surely would not have spent nearly 200 thousand dollars now, in legal fees, fighting to keep from having to show it. That says volumes right there.

  • Mary Beth

    I agree. Obama’s heart is somewhere, but not in the right place – as in the best interest of the people. If it were, he would not be creating a deficit for the next 2-3 generations to deal with. If he had been a republican and done this, the DNC would be up in arms and all over the TV about it. Obama is not a leader, he does what his flock of corrupt advisors tell him to do. He’s not bold enough to make a decision that would help our troops get their job done. When the man that YOU appointed to advise you on military situations tells you he needs help to get the job done, then you do it. It’s not him over there having to endure it. Oh, he was going to do everything so much better than Bush! I can’t tell. He’s a limp noodle and he can’t make a decision because no one has a cue card with the future written on it so that he can make the perfect choice. It’s a sad day when voters have put someone in charge just because by doing so, he was going to make history. So what? Who cares if all he’s in there for is to try to make himself look good all the time (photo opps) and is too scared to make a choice because he MIGHT be wrong – and he’s WAY too arrogant to take that chance. All he’s going to do is take care of his long time Chicago cronies and pat himself on the back for propped opportunities to make him out to be some sort of hero. Then, when he’s changed America as much as he possibly can – because after all, he’s SO much smarter than 200+ yrs. of leadership that has made us #1 in the world – he’ll step out and smile that obnoxious smile and be so proud that he was the one that made history. It’s all about him. It always has been.

    • paulette edwards

      Mary beth I totaly agree.people are so stupid.people are so blind sighted where he is concerned they better wake up

  • http://none Jackie

    Society is on the decline our jobs go to China and India etc. However, these people have low wages, low housing costs, etc.
    The very basics of life cost less, so they can work for lower wages,
    how do we save America. Immdiately lower the cost of housing, the cost of renting, the cost of food back to the day of the fifties, then and maybe then the jobs will move back to America, the cost of living is so high in American, that everyone needs a high paying job to exist. Reverse the order. Are Americans willing to take there wages back to the fifties, is the market ready to lower medical costs drug costs, etc.???? if not then our American Society will continue its decline into poverty, and with a few very wealthy at the top.

  • http://Personallibertysdigest Donna

    I would like to see some constructive ideas on how WE the people CAN take back our government. With all this negetivity with no applicable ideas for the change, I have become a frustrated person. I want to do something for the people of this country but all I can see here is finger pointing. Does anyone have any solid ideas that the majority can get their teeth into.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      One thing, is people need to educate themselves as to who the candidates are, what they stand for, what direction they are going. What are their plans, who are they, where are they from. Who are the people they are associated with. All this stuff tells us a lot about people. Instead, people sit around in their houses, watching the brain sucker in their living rooms, and get brainwashed by an image of a guy saying change, change, change over and over and over again. That is how Obama got elected. Look at the evidence here that I lay before you. Obama never divulged any kind of plan, just change, change, change. He never divulged where he was from, and still refuses to do so, even spending 200 thousand dollars in legal fees to keep that birth certificate and college papers hidden. Amazing isnt it. He is associated with a racist pastor who says G.D. the white man and G.D. America, he serves on a board with a domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, who hatched Obama’s political life in his living room, yet Obama lied and said he doesnt know him well, despite this and serving on a board of directors with the guy. Gimme a break. Tony Rezko from Chicago, a gangsters and slum lord swung dirty deals with Obama and got him his house. Michelle was paid like 360 thousand a year in here role at some Chicago Hospital, and when she left, they never had a need to replace her. Gee, I wonder why? Isnt that amazing. Yes, if people would educate themselves as to who they are voting for, Obaminations like this getting into the White House wouldnt happen.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Gandolf

    Donna. If you want a list of things that need to be done, try this. The very first thing MUST be a balanced budget ammendment to the constitution. Without that… nothing else matters.

    Next; Congress must be brought under control. Term Limits a must. 2 and no more (not 2 in the House and 2 in the Senate) just 2. Next; Congress must live by the exact rules they pass for the American People, no special retirement system, no special benefits (I could name many, like a paid for office and staff for life (after only one term)). Let them live on social security and watch how fast that system changes. Limit their staffing and budget, limit their using fed funds for mail-outs (propaganda to get re-elected), economy seats on flights. Absolutely no perks from lobbists ever. All votes to be in person and available to the public on every vote. Ever read the Federal Registery? You can’t. It is intentionally full of references and jargon that no one (outside the beltway) can read or follow. Make it tell the truth in plain english. More but it would take to long.

    Legislation: One subject, one vote, all public. No massive bills to hide things in (like tons of “PORK” (look carefully at the new Health Care Reform Bill, or the “Bail-out bill”). Every item must have the authors name on it (to prevent earmarks…) promised by Obama but never delivered. Absolutely no voice or secrete votes ever. More but will take too much time.

    Term limits on Supreme Court Judges. They should age out at some point before they become senile (I can think of two right off hand). More but would take to long.

    Bureauacrats; Non-elected appointees to positions of incredible power and scope (Obama’ Czars). They must be vetted (by a citizen panel not associated with the government or special interest group (I know… that will be hard to find))to be sure the appointee actually knows something about what it is they are to do. To many examples to cite, start with ‘Katrina’.

    Fereralize the “Federal Reserve Bank”. DUCK! The power brokers will really fight that one… they lose too much money and lose too much power if this happenes.) This is one of the biggest and most powerful groups in the world, they will fight with all they have to keep this cash cow and the power to control the entire financial system (to their personal gain). They print the money, not Uncle Sam. Return to a Gold Standard for our currency… no more debt based GDP.

    Washington is about power and wealth, not the public interest. The term limits will reduce that and a “Civilian” watch dog group will do the rest. There will always be the cheats and outright crooks, but we can send them to prison (how many this year alone? many, just ask Illinois).

    I could go on, but I think you get the picture. Only when the populace of this country demands it, will this happens… and if you do not get off the couch and get active it will never have a chance of succeeding. Your Chice… Act or be eaten!

    • Greg

      I am in conceptual agreement with your ideas, especially the one item/bill and the government employees having only the same benefits as the public they “support & represent”. The concern is how to go about making a meaningful, constructive and functional within the next 5-10 years.
      What would be the impace if we were to get one term limits (at 1.5 times the current term, a four year senator would serve a six year term)for elected officials? This would be long enough to be learn the ropes of federal politics but having only a “once and done” term with no chance of making a career out of federal politics….thoughts?
      By eliminating politics as a career, would common sense have a chance to raise its head? Suddenly, if there is no potential for a career of financial opportunity, power grabs, elitism, socialism, etc. wouldn’t we be forced into an environment of doing what is right for the country instead of the politician?
      How do we know what is right? The logic we use to pay our bills (those of us that do) seem to have worked for the past 200+ years. Basically, my premise is that there is only so much money available, how am I going to use it to the best advantage for my family (the citizens) now & in the future? To me, the government’s role is establishing and maintaining national defense, schools, roads, standards for basic utilities, and very little else.
      Public assistance could be limited to a total of five years. If you’re serious about getting an education and being self reliant there is a temporary support net in place if you’re down on your luck while you get a skill. Those with total disability would be excluded. To qualify for public assistance you have to complete and graduate from high school. Don’t want to work, fine….but keep it your problem. My efforts to better myself and support my family should not be diluted by taking my money and giving it to those that refuse to be self reliant. With no entitlement, the very real potential of starving and having no shelter could become one heck of a motivator for those that currently suck from the government tit.
      Thought?

    • Lori

      I agree with all that you say Gandolf and Greg, but these are things that need done, how do we do it? I contacted my Senators and Reps and asked them to vote NO on the Healthcare bill. Their answer to me, all of them, was they appreciated my concerns but they felt this was the best thing for the people of the State and they were going through with it. Who do we get to step forward and say Enough is Enough? The Tea Parties were bringing it to the people, but they were portrayed as being trouble makers and Conservative Republicans, which in this time is about the worst thing you can be it seems…..at least the the media. So HOW do we get the country back to the gold standard, back to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, back on the right track. Please don’t say to have a Congressman introduce a bill, as, if you could find one that would, who would ever vote it in? The government, and this includes Dems and Reps, believes we are too stupid to do anything, and if we happen to get a foot hold, Mr. Obama slaps it down if it might cause trouble for him, and his goons follow him like lap puppies. I don’t think we will last until the election of 2010, and even then, how is it going to be sure that what gets in then is going to be any better than what we have now. I am sick of the government. They Congress tells the elderly there are to be no cost of living raises for their Social Security, because the cost of living didn’t go up. I don’t know what planet they live on but the COL sure went up for me. I guess is probably did for them too, as they voted themselves a raise to cover the COL. I want to do something, like Donna, but what? Vote ‘em out is what I am being told, that is too far out and there are no guarantees with that, so what else? Is there any chance of getting the citizens together on this, without the fight of “I want this” ” I don’t want to give up that”, good Lord, if we don’t do something and soon, no one is going to have this or that and they are not even going to have a choice in it.

      All I can do is pray we ALL wake up before it is too late! Enough is Enough……….no more spending, special interest bills, and the corruption must be prosecuted, now, not next year!

  • http://shortmaryann78@hotmail.com Maryann

    My My is that all congressmen want to tax 5% for a face lift etc.?

    To my way of thinking and seeing about 50% are platic faces. Look at Palosi? And some of the old old men in thier 80′s.

    Maryann

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I think you meant to say plastic faces. And its Pelosi not Palosi. And their, not thier.

  • D.

    Watch Glenn Beck. I think he is trying to get the truth out. There are many good Democrat people in our country, but most all of them in WA D.C. seem to be far left, and corrupt. There are a number of Republicans I like and respect. But, the truth is: we need to get a lot of principled candidates into D.C. who will actually work for “the people” and the best interests of our country. People need to get involved at the local level to get good candidates in at the local level, on up.

    • jesse

      ha, ha, that’s like saying watch furngullie because the message is thought provoking. Do you not know that that whimpering, mad man is an actor paid to pull at the emotional heart strings of the gullible?

    • don

      Glenn Beck is part of the propaganda machine and is hurting our country

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Glenn Beck is one of the smartest and wisest men Ive ever seen. The liberal left hates him, because he the truth incarnate. The guy gets educated about the subjects on which he speaks, and he totally exposes the liberals for who and what they are, and it scares the hell out of them. And they and their blind sheeple followers, like the two that responded to this post already, seem to be scared to death of the truth. They attack Beck, like he is a republican, and he will tell you truthfully, he is not. He will vote for those who represent the ideals he stands for. Right now, it is definately not the democrats. How can people not love and respect someone who divulges and reveals the truth to them, for their own good? I guess if we go back in History, we can see that. Over two thousand years ago, this guy came, telling everyone the truth of how things are, and how to be and how not to be, and as to what was going to happen if they continued to do these bad things. And he spoke the truth, 100 percent of the time. And the people rejected the truth and hung Him on a cross, not knowing they were playing right into God’s plan. It seems the truth has been rejected by man, for at least 2000 years, and man will continue to reject the truth, as long as satan is around. Right now, the old horned one has a death grip on the democratic party, and the truth is far from them. Not to say that might change in 5 to 10 years, we dont know. But right now they have embraced evil so fully that it owns them. I assure you democrats, that JFK would be rolling in his grave if he knew what you have done to his party. Rolling in the grave. If he were alive and a politician today he no doubt would be running as a Republican. I would say Libertarian, but since JFK was a Catholic, and the Libertarians dont believe in God, he couldnt run for them.

  • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

    Lee:

    You asked the question if we believed in God.

    I retired from the U.S. Army in 1979. In 1968, I was sent to the Pentagon to work with a Force Structure Group. We were housed in barracks at Ft. Meyer, Va. One evening, in January, it was very cold and dark outside and inside my room, it was pitch black. I was awake, in bed, when a yellow white light appeared in one corner between the ceiling and wall. A voice came from that light stating “Now is not the time, I will call for you”. I leaped from the bed and pulled aside the blind to see if anyone was outside, then ran to the exit door a few steps away. We were next to a huge parking lot which was empty so nobody could have been there without my seeing them. I returned to my room and grabbed my face to make sure I was awake, then realized God had just spoken to me.

    9 months later, I was sent to Viet Nam. There were several times my life was in danger, the Tet Offensive, the NCO Club where I was going one evening but decided not to was blown up (13 people where I always sat died), enemy fire striking a foot over my head, my jeep and caribou plane being hit by fire as well. I know God works in mysterious ways but he must also protect us because I have also been in 2 serious car accidents (None my fault) where I could have died.

    Just wanted to share this with you and those who wonder if God exists. I have to believe he does. I have never been deeply religious and have no answer why he spoke to me but I will answer his call.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      When I reached a dark point in my life 12 years ago, I dropped to my knee’s in the living room of my old house, and I cried out and asked “what have I done, Ive messed it all up”, and I asked Jesus to come and save me from myself, and allthough no one was in that room, it got real bright and I was raised to my feet as if I were being picked up by someone, and a soft buy steady assuring voice said “You are all right now”. And since that day, I have been all right. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. Is it a bed of roses. No. Heck No. I have more trials and tribulations now than I have ever had. But I now have a source of strength to get me through tough times, that I never had before. What a difference it makes in living my life. Yes, there is a God. I know, He lives inside of me.

  • pappy

    The Ten Commandments of Conservatives.

    I. Thou shalt talk about Christian principles, but not live by them

    II. Thou shalt attack opponents personally when you can’t win on policies

    III. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, but be in favor of the death penalty

    IV. Thou shalt call yourself pro-life, and put guns in the hands of school children

    V. Thou shalt give lip service to democracy while taking away civil liberties

    VI. Profit is the Lord Thy God, thou shalt not put the people’s interest above those of your corporate contributors

    VII. Thou shalt make sure fetuses have health coverage, but leave children and babies behind(If the shoe fits wear it!)

    VIII Thou shalt bear false witness against your opponents and liberals, and demonize them**

    IX. Thou shalt run on a moderate platform, then enact right-wing policies as soon as possible

    X. Thou shalt call the media liberal, so that people forget that the media is owned by corporations with a conservative fiscal agenda
    ALL RELIGON OUT OF GOV

    • JC

      You have GOT to be kidding.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Though shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor. This is a commandment from God. You have bore false witness against me sir, because I do none of those things you have listed. I seek the truth, and I speak the truth. You have just lied and bore false witness against me, because I am a conservative, and I dont practice those lies that you listed. I would say your perception of things, and the reality of things, appear to be two different things.

  • http://na dave buls

    I hope its not too late to stop the machine from eating itself, or before we have a civil war and destroy our infrastructure anyway. is it possible to have a monetary system and NOT have eventual destruction of an economy? i think it is, but you can’t have a single government that controls the money. without the federal government, or with a very small version of it, our country would sail along for decades, wealthy, healthy and happy. why? because, for any issue, you don’t need to go beyond the state level to resolve it. think about it. which is why, in most instances, we don’t need a national government. national government never works, because it groups everyone into the same category, whether you are white from seattle, or middle eastern from brooklyn. however, it seems to grow, like a cancer, whether you try to stop it or not. can’t human beings rise above maslow’s hierarchy? we’ve had many centuries to do it, but we keep lowering ourselves to petty greed and immaturity.

  • Bob Wire

    I enjoy reading the article and many of the following comments. Inflation is indeed a transfer of wealth to the currency “printer”

    I lived through an inflation period when I returned from Nam back during the 70″s along with all the “caps” and price “freezes” as Nixon attempted to get a grip.

    I’m not sure of how well it serves us to label each other, using the word “liberal” as a 4″ brush you show no desire for details and paint a picture any preschooler might be most proud of and wish you to display, Yes ! I see the pretty trees and horses. Good work!

    Deregulation hurt us, regulation had been put in place for good reasons. I don’t care who thought it a wise thing to do. Free Trade agreement hurt us, when used unwisely, regardless who’s idea it was. ~

    But we need to all understand, one function of Government is to guide and direct. ~ This is done with legislation and regulation, these are only “tools” to direct a course.

    History shows us that the course is rarely a straight line ~ but twisted and turned with time and current demand.

    To stay on a solid course requires “steering” ~ too much overuse of any one “tool” will put us in the ditch. (where we are now)

    Too much “right” too much “left” and we are off course.

    We have people among us that only ask one question, “Can We?” while never asking , “should we?” ~ That something is “legal” to do is all the encouragement they need.

    In the last 8 years, we have had crimes committed against the American people from high places in banking and Government ~ while no laws have been broken and no one will be brought to justice and no money will ever be recovered.

    But some would rather defend this debacle and assign “labels” and place blame on anyone other then “their team” , I find offensive.

    I helped Ronnie get elected, it wasn’t a mistake but I only had two choices. Ronnie brought in an era of junk bonds, hostile take overs, buyouts & sell off, forced retirement, downsizing, Corporate raiders ( if you were a victim of any ripple effect, tough) the term ” plausible deniablity” , Broke the back of organized labor, the IRS was unleashed on the American people like a pack of starved hunting dogs, just to name a few of the “side effects” Regan tenure and the “prosperity” that some Americans enjoyed. All Americans can’t work for the FED or the military complex or some government concern. ~ Somebody’s got to take out the trash, stock grocery shelves, work in the saw mill, unstop drains.

    So ~ look at “all of history” and not just what justifies your party affiliation.

    We do ourselves a disservice with today’s partisan conduct and fever pitch. I’m am an American, ~ I’ve served and defended so you might be free to say what you wish to say ~ make me proud.

    • eyeswideopen

      Bob, do a little research and you will find that during our history every time we have had recessions (July 1953, Aug 1957, 1969, 1973, 1980,1981,1990, 2001) we have had Republican Presidents in office. The only time it was a democrat was in 1960. Why do you think that is?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And with each and almost everyone of them, a democratic congress served. That is important, because the president is helpless to do anything, as it takes an act of congress. So if your wanting to place blame during any of these years you listed, you need to see who congress was, as that is where the true blame lies. So lets review this. In 1950, the Republicans had the house and senate. In 1957, 1969, 1973, 1980 and 1990, the Democrats had both house and senate. In 1981 the Republicans had the senate and the Democrats had the congress. And in 2001, the Democrats had the Senate and the Republicans had the congress. So in all of your listing, the Democrats controlled the congress in 6 of the 8 instances, and controlled both the house and senate at the same time in 5 of them. So I guess that would say, in your attemp to hang the Republican President, you just hung the Democrats who were the party controlling things. I rest my case, with the facts, while you continue on with your misleading lying liberal agenda. The truth will set you free.

  • don

    I was Also in the military 2 different branches and served for a long time .this is mostly Bushes fault.if him and his buddy’s did not Deregulate everything we would be on the right track.and for all this right wing neo Nazi propaganda that these right wings believe,they need to do there research and then comment,i am not a neo Nazi or a lefty.i am a red blooded American that wants my country back

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Yeah, its Bush’s fault that we have been save now for almost 10 years since 9-11. Which as you know, was a direct result of Clinton sleeping in the white house, and cutting our intelligence agency in half, to where there wasnt enough intelligence to catch these guys. Thats a fact pal. And thank God Bush went after these terrorists, and didnt let them keep bombing us ala Bill Clinton. Remember the WTC basement bombing? Remember the USS Cole bombing? What did Billy do? Nothing. He gave them the nerve to go bigger, as they thought of us as weak and afraid, because of Clinton’s inaction. Had not Bush acted, your kids and mine would be fighting this war over here in a matter of years. Your absolutely nuts to insist that we should have just let Hussein take over the whole middle east, and let him build his bombs until he got enough technology to start lobbing nukes over here. And sir, that is exactly what he would have done. Your a blind babbling pacifist to think otherwise, and judging by your statements, had we done nothing and years later we were fighting them here, or worse yet had nukes land here, people like you would have blamed Bush for not doing anything after they blew up the WTC and brought them down. Now you tell me Im not right, and I will call you a blatant liar. Blatant.

  • MATT MERRITT

    SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF CONGRESSIONAL GREED WITH LIMITED TERMS.

  • Star

    I have only 1 comment. The problem with Socialism is you run out of other people’s money.
    I was just reading “Legislation in the USSR”. A book I purchased in the USSR in 1982, the words do echo what is coming out of DC.

    Enjoy!!

    • JC

      The 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto are alive and well in the USA.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham

    From: S STEELE
    Subject: FW: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come, Jim.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.
    Just think how must money this action would save the tax payers!!!!!

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

  • Marilyn

    There is a lot of truth in many of the articles on this site there are also a lot of GREAT BIG LIES! I was born in 1932 and I remember a great deal about the depression and FDR, first hand! We were starting to come out of a minor recession in 1932 when FDR took office. His idea was to throw money at everything that came along and by the time he died in his 4th term of office, he had thrown 2 billion dollars away and even with WW2, which kept us barely above water financially, the continuation of the depression, which had lessened somewhat, did not really end until 1955! Harry Truman was a better president but was an owner of a failed haberdashery company so did not do too well with the finances of the country. The people brought us out of it, as returning veterans and young people, like me, looked forward to a “brave, new world!” We bought new homes and cars and everything that goes with those things! Ronald Reagan brought us out of DOUBLE DIGIT INFLATION AND KEPT US OUT OF WW3. He also believed deeply in God and Country! He and Pope John Paul 2nd were instrumental in bringing down the communist government of Russia, without firing a shot, which ruled almost all of Europe! As far as organized labor goes, reducing it entirely, helped the economy and the people to grow peacefully and much more affluent without it then having it ever had before! They are run now and were run then by racketeers and dishonest people who were out for all they could get for themselves, NOT THE WORKERS! You can look all of this up and verify the truthfulness of what I am saying! If you DO belong to a union consider how much they take out of your paycheck “for dues” and what happens when they call a strike! Also consider what happens to people who refuse to join the union! It was said when I worked for the GE, that the factory workers who went on strike and got a small raise in wages would NEVER be able to recover the money they had lost while on strike because they generally lasted for a couple of months a least. YOU DO NOT GET PAID WHEN YOU GO ON STRIKE!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thank you for telling the truth. Im am stunned when I hear people try to attack all the great and wonderful things Ronald Reagan did for this country. It is scary to know that there are that many stupid and uneducated people in the world, that are so easily led astray by liberal media influence, that they refuse to see the facts of truth that are right in front of their face. It amazes me, and its sad. But you know, it’s always been that way. Jesus’s own disciples used to be with Him day in and day out, and they would watch Him bring the dead back to life, and to heal blind people and crippled people, right in front of their very eyes. They saw the truth, and still doubted and didnt believe. And it appears man is still that way today. They see the truth play out right in front of them, and someone tells them a lie and they buy into that instead of the truth. Its really sad.

  • Marilyn

    In my first comments I did not tackle the problem of BO! I researched him when he first started campaigning for office. I found 3 different articles written by different authors a couple of months apart.
    Although the style of writing was different and they were written at different times the story was essentially the same. He was born in Kenya and his step-grandmother and an Aunt remembered the day well when he was born and they had both held him. His real father was an alcoholic, which was certainly strange for a muslim, and there is a question if his mother and father were really married. His mother did marry another muslim who adopted him legally, and he was sent to a school which taught both muslim children and a section which taught Christian children. BO was in the muslim section. This was verified by teachers who had taught him in school. His mother and stepfather were divorced and she took BO to live with her parents when he was about 12 years old. His grandfather was close friends with Frank Marshall Davis who became BO’s mentor until he came to the U.S. and became a student, or at least he has not been mentioned since BO came to the U.S. Mr. Davis was very active and held office in the communist party in the U.S. and “yes” that party was and is legal in this country! BO, by his own admission, was attracted to the people and associated with people in organizations who believed in and worked for highly socialistic and communistic ideas! Just as an aside, when BO was in the Illinois Senate he was THE ONLY ONE TO VOTE TO KILL A BABY THAT WAS ABORTED AND LIVED. When asked by a reporter why he would vote for such a thing, he coldly replied because it was the mother’s wish! While running for office he was asked what he would do if one of his daughters became pregnant outside of wedlock and he replied it would be aborted! He apparently would murder his own grandchild should such a thing happen.
    This man as far as I can see is psychopathic and has no real feelings for anyone other than himself. I was happy to find an article on the internet written by a well known psychiatrist who laid it out very well that he felt this was the case with BO. I wish I had copied it off but I did not at the time! In any event this country is in big trouble because of this man having got us into 3 trillion dollars worth of debt the first 6 months that he was in office. This healthcare bill has little to do with healthcare as I have a copy of the 2nd bill and the last bill. the name of the game is CONTROL OF THE PEOPLE! As a 3d world country it will be much easier to control us than it would be if we were active and living well. Also people over a certain age will be pushed to let themselves be euthanized as we are no longer productive enough to remain alive! Babies born with any handicap will also be killed! You people who think he is so wonderful, lots of luck!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And did you see what one of the first things Obama did when he got elected? After expanding welfare and food stamps, he signed into being a bill that now the United States will pay for abortions in third world countries, so that we can start murdering their babies too. And you and I both know, in addition to that being so wrong, that these third world doctors are going to charge us at least 3 times what the bill should be. Just totally unbelievable that this can happen. So, so sad is the state of man, murdering infants.

  • GOODBULL

    NOTE I NEVER HAVE WORKED FOR A POOR MAN

    • eyeswideopen

      Goodbull, you probably never worked for a rich one either, as they don’t own companies, they make money from investments and capital gains, which go un taxed. You probably have worked for a small business owner, one of the 64% who make up the majority of the work force in this country.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I work for a rich man. Only he has decided that all the profits we make, get equally divided by the employee’s, on top of paying us a fair wage. You dont think the Waltons that own Walmart are rich? You might want to think again. You dont think they hire millions upon millions of people? You better think again. And being a liberal, I can see it coming where your going to say how they buy from China and things like that. Let me also inform you, that they are the biggest buyer of American made goods in the country. Now go ahead, and lyingly demonize them like you do everything else that is good in this country, while you back morally backrupt evil people like Obama and the democratic party. Go ahead, justify yourself. Then try if before the throne of God. He will sort out the truth to you.

  • Squire

    Goldman Sachs if you guys think for one second Sachs is not in bed with the Obama administration you are a moron. Over the past one year no less than 5 former Goldman Sachs executives have been appointed by Obama to some Government position. Also the CEO has visited the white house no less than 4 times last year. Pay back for being good little solders? The Goldman Sachs media roast was a sham. (Hey look idiot sheeple we are doing something. Don’t be fooled you ARE being subjugated through the economy.

  • Bobba

    It’s at least 7 from Goldman-Sachs. They also donated close to a million bucks to Mr. obama’s campaign; go figure! The best thing Clinton did RE: the economy was stay out of the way (what a concept!) I have heard a description of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. We have to vote all the #!!@%&$* big-government politicians out and make sure to vote for people (and by extension, judges) who will “Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” AS WRITTEN by our Founding Fathers, some of the greatest thinkers of all time! Respectfully submitted.

  • http://www.antiwar.com Mike

    The guvment that murika has HAS FAILED..Throw it out!

  • KATHLEEN

    Obama’s heart is in the right place? Wha, wha, WHAT?!? You are obviously dillusional. He has spent so much $$ that we do NOT have! He LIES about everything! The stimulus was a LIE – unemployment went up. The only jobs that were created were TEMPORARY CENSUS jobs. He LIED about health care. Health care is MORE expensive now and doctors are quitting. He’s LYING about taxing carbon. How the hell with THAT help the economy? And even if it helped the environment (taxing it – I don’t think so), when China, India & all the other country’s industries are thriving and polluting, the U.S.A. being taxed on emmissions isn’t going to do a damned thing except BANKRUPT us even further! He is a TERRIBLE leader! He has spent more $$ in ONE year than Bush did in 8!!! Get your facts straight and find another drink. Kool-Aid causes brain damage.

  • Save America Susie

    Bob, This is really bizarre….This just came into my in-box at 4:51 pm California time! Doesn’t it usually come in the morning? And the dates are all odd on the replies. First one Starts in October of 2008 and a reply is March of 2009. And this is June 2010. Sometimes there is a whole year between reply comment dates. Just curious, why?

    Wondering if there a problem with sending this on your end?

    • libertytrain

      Save America Susie – I’ve had that happen to me with emails. As late as a year after it was sent. I think it has more to do with just hanging in limbo somewhere.

  • bedbug

    GET A ROPE!!

  • JCO

    THE RESPONSIBILITY, FOR THIS FREE FALL, IS ON ALL OF US. I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IF YOU ARE POOR. LIVING PAY DAY TO PAY DAY. MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW SAY, “WHAT CAN I DO, I HAVE NO MONEY”. HOW CAN WE HELP ALL THESE PEOPLE, WHO THINK THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF THE WHIRL POOL THANKS GOD BE WITH YOU ALL

  • Allan

    Bob-

    It’s a pessimistic view you’ve put forth. What specifically do you expect people to do?

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This Guy Had The Guts To Put This On The Internet . Praise God !!!

    YES, I’M A BAD AMERICAN

    I Am the Liberal-Progressives Worst Nightmare.

    I am an American.

    I am a Master Mason and believe in God.

    I ride Harley Davidson Motorcycles and believe in American products.

    I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some Liberal governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!

    I’m in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!

    I think owning a gun doesn’t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

    I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it!

    I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, do it in English.

    I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.

    ?

    My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and Willie G. Davidson that makes the awesome Harley Davidson Motorcycles.

    I don’t hate the rich. I don’t pity the poor.

    I know wrestling is fake and I don’t waste my time watching or arguing about it.

    I’ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I haven’t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you!

    So, shut up already.

    I believe if you don’t like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country!

    This is AMERICA .We like it the way it is!

    If you were born here and don’t like it you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you.

    I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson preaches, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution.

    Can I get an AMEN on that one?

    ?

    I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you’re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

    And, no, I don’t mind having my face shown on my drivers license.

    I think it’s good…. And I’m proud that ‘God’ is written on my money.

    I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don’t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

    I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making ‘donations’ to their cause.

    Get a Job and do your part!

    I believe that it doesn’t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

    I believe ‘illegal’ is illegal no matter what the lawyers think.

    I believe the American flag should be the only one allowed in AMERICA !

    If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I’m a BAD American.

    If you are a BAD American too, please forward this to everyone you know.

    We want our country back!

    We NEED GOD BACK IN OUR COUNTRY!

    WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

    AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This Guy Had The Guts To Put This On The Internet . Praise God !!!

    YES, I’M A BAD AMERICAN

    I Am the Liberal-Progressives Worst Nightmare.

    I am an American.

    I am a Master Mason and believe in God.

    I ride Harley Davidson Motorcycles and believe in American products.

    I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some Liberal governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!

    I’m in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!

    I think owning a gun doesn’t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

    I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything. Get over it!

    I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, do it in English.

    I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.

    ?

    My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and Willie G. Davidson that makes the awesome Harley Davidson Motorcycles.

    I don’t hate the rich. I don’t pity the poor.

    I know wrestling is fake and I don’t waste my time watching or arguing about it.

    I’ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I haven’t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you!

    So, shut up already.

    I believe if you don’t like the way things are here, go back to where you came from and change your own country!

    This is AMERICA .We like it the way it is!

    If you were born here and don’t like it you are free to move to any Socialist country that will have you.

    I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson preaches, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution.

    Can I get an AMEN on that one?

    ?

    I also think the cops have the right to pull you over if you’re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

    And, no, I don’t mind having my face shown on my drivers license.

    I think it’s good…. And I’m proud that ‘God’ is written on my money.

    I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don’t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

    I dislike those people standing in the intersections trying to sell me stuff or trying to guilt me into making ‘donations’ to their cause.

    Get a Job and do your part!

    I believe that it doesn’t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

    I believe ‘illegal’ is illegal no matter what the lawyers think.

    I believe the American flag should be the only one allowed in AMERICA !

    If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I’m a BAD American.

    If you are a BAD American too, please forward this to everyone you know.

    We want our country back!

    We NEED GOD BACK IN OUR COUNTRY!

    WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

    • Jewish Mama

      I love it! You GO you BAD AMERICAN, and God Bless America!

    • Wayne Morgan

      You have spoken the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. All war is hell, but when I look into the eyes of the men and women of the 2nd World War, and visit the National Cematary I swear it breaks my heart. In Europe or the Pacific, these men and women were short on supplies, medical, ammo, water. As I said war is hell. As each generation of warriors see or rather don’t see any respect or National Pride, I concider some material that I read some years ago. The idea was hatched in a government thinktank. They had already come to the conclusion that the best way to destory a country was from with in, using the childern and the school system to bring about this change. To have them move away from National Pride, away from the church and God. To teach sex in the school’s years before we would have as parents. This dates back to the mid 1800′s ,but by the early 1900′s they had worked out the big push. Now we see the fruit of their labors. We see it in Judges, Lawyers,Government Agency, the big money men of our time. We have been sold out, from the farmers to the milk producers, and who was that thought we should spread the wealth our wealth to other countries.A money move., the people in question would chargethe same price to us while having their products made for pennies on the dollar. I could ramble on for hours, but that want change a thing. We need to rout out the crooks in government and replace them with honest Christan Men And Women. We have to just get started and trust in God that it’s not to late.And remember the quotes of Thomas Jefferson. We are well overdo for a turn in government.

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    BY A 15 yr. Old SCHOOL KID IN ARIZONA

    New Pledge of Allegiance (TOTALLY AWESOME)!

    Since the Pledge of Allegiance

    And

    The Lord’s Prayer

    Are not allowed in most

    Public schools anymore

    Because the word ‘God’ is mentioned… ..

    A kid in Arizona wrote the attached

    NEW School prayer:

    Now I sit me down in school

    Where praying is against the rule

    For this great nation under God

    Finds mention of Him very odd.

    If scripture now the class recites,

    It violates the Bill of Rights.

    And anytime my head I bow

    Becomes a Federal matter now.

    Our hair can be purple, orange or green,

    That’s no offense; it’s a freedom scene..

    The law is specific, the law is precise.

    Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

    For praying in a public hall

    Might offend someone with no faith at all..

    In silence alone we must meditate,

    God’s name is prohibited by the state.

    We’re allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,

    And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks…

    They’ve outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.

    To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

    We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,

    And the ‘unwed daddy,’ our Senior King.

    It’s ‘inappropriate’ to teach right from wrong,

    We’re taught that such ‘judgments’ do not belong..

    We can get our condoms and birth controls,
    Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles..

    But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
    No word of God must reach this crowd.

    It’s scary here I must confess,

    When chaos reigns the school’s a mess.

    So, Lord, this silent plea I make:

    Should I be shot; My soul please take!

    Amen

    If you aren’t ashamed to do this, Please pass this on..

    Jesus said, ‘If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.’

    Not ashamed. Pass this on.

    • nc

      Jim, If I read Jesus’s words in Matthew 6:5 correctly why do Christians feel it is necessary for any Christians to pray in public! Especially in public schools with a prayer prepared by some other person?Prayer to Jesus seems to be very personal and very private!

  • http://comcast Richie

    I personally have been paying attention to government for many years trying to tell people what was going on. No one was doing any learning
    they listen and agree but that was it. I used to tell them I guess the
    only time you will pay attention is when they take the food off the table. Now that they have they are paying attention but the plus is the internet because without it people would still feel like they couldn’t do any thing about it. They must realize that congress passes these laws and that the president couldn’t sign what he doesn’t have. The president is not what America is about capitalisim which makes us the
    greatest country in the world. The worst part is when we go down the world will never be the same again. This not going to happen Obama or
    not the people are stepping up to fight this battle for freedom and
    we will win.

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    DJ Hero is a really awesome game, one of my faves! :)

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON – GREAT ARTICLE – THANK YOU -
    I have a great deal of respect for you, and I sense a very important message within your message. Please indulge me for a moment. You ask that we keep our focus on reality. My reality is political noise and a President in office who is destroying our system of government. It is noise, but not insignificant noise, and it does interfere with my calm and sober psyche. I can choose to ignore it, but it would influence me. I choose instead to work toward preventing Obama from achieving any further power-grabbing, if I can. This man is not the usual President, in my opinion. He has a definite agenda that I don’t like, and I don’t like the radicals dancing around him. I believe he is Socialist/Marxist with the intention of becoming a Fascist. It does matter WHO is doing this to us. It’s the only way to take steps to prevent the future deterioration of our nation.

    My goal is that if we get control of The House and The Senate, we can undo some of what he’s done. He has shoved a Health Bill down my throat, and I hope it will be repealed. I live in Arizona, and his collusion with President Calderon is grounds for impeachment. His job is to protect the states from invasion. Arizona has been invaded by 400,000 illegals, some from Syria, Iraq, etc. At the moment, the Mexican drug cartel is at a distance, pointing rifles toward our Border Patrol and Policemen. They have sent word that they intend to sniper-fire.

    Bob, the important message that I took from your article, and I will say it in my words, “stay healthy and don’t stress out because things change.” I think you are saying this based upon your experience. The mustard seed was a great example. Your info on the economy was great. Thanks, Bob.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • germeten

    Currency gets its value by the faith people put in it and gold is no different. If people didn’t believe gold had value, it wouldn’t; likewise many other things have value besides gold. People need to ignore every new fright report issued by the Central Banks, who hate
    social entitlements because it makes people less desperate for loans and so currency in bankers’ vaults is worth less than under tight money policies, which is what banks want. Think it through and you’ll understand that 95% of what you learned is wrong. The truth is in your face and simpler than folks want to believe. The debt is an illusion banks created to make us think we owe them, and deprive US; but we don’t owe them squat. National year of Jubilee anyone? Any other private debt needs to be repaid by printing currency. The Constitution allows, even obligates Congress to do that. Is there anything more idiotic than saying “We don’t have the money” when you own the printing press? What’s really occurring is a rhetorical justification over who deserves funds: the people, or banks. And banks will continue to lobby for their “rights” to serve as cartel and conduit by their very real “licenses to steal.” Their business along with the Federal Reserve needs to be outlawed. Only then can there be hope for a “Just economy.” The poor who receive entitlements aren’t robbing anyone, they’re simply claiming their share of the people’s currency. Taxes are unnecessary but to make currency more scarce and its value artificially high, but fact is the banks are bogarting when their function is to distribute.

    That said, Divine Providence helped found this country and will save us in the end, for simple fact that America is the planet’s only hope, and They promised to protect US

  • CW1

    It appears to me that most people posting here have forgotten one major item that greatly effects all of our lives. That item is called the “gestapo”. Yes our wonderful police forces, who are nothing but government henchmen. I know of what I speak. I was a police officer in a major city in the U.S. for 14 years. Finally quit – too embarassing to put the uniform on anymore! I have seen the rights of property owners deteriorate very rapidly in that 14 years. Police officers have the attitude, “do as I say, and not as I do”. You can see it almost weekly if you pay any attention to the news. And that does not include all the violations of civil liberties that have been abused. Just the few that are forced into the news by vocal citizens with cameras. There is a young organization called “Oath Keepers” that is comprised of veteran and active, military and police alike. Lets hope that there are enough honest people to join this organization to make a difference in this country. They have sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution, period!!! It is a good site to visit.

    No, the police our not heroes, they are an oppressive arm of local, state, and federal governments.

    • Deborah

      Lt. Col. Lankin, US Army, refused to follow an order issued by this Illegal POTUS “president” until he proved he was POTUS, by submitting his Birth Certificate to prove his NATURALIZED citizenship. Which he can’t do! Both parents must be Natural Born in order to serve as president of these United States.
      His dad is African. His mother gave birth in Kenya. His ? father ?, Obama Sr. took him to Indonesia where he went to school. Now, he was listed as a citizen of Indonesia on his school paper work. They didn’t allow duel citizenship in Indonesia at the time, so he’d had to come back in the US via Immigrations OR illegally entered our borders. We have no records of legally returning to the US.
      POTUS! PROVE ME WRONG!
      News Media needs to be dismantled! They are no longer Americans in my book!

  • Patrick

    To all morons who blame deregulation of banks and the rich: The financial industry is the most regulated industry in the country by far and away, even with the panding legislation to “reform” it. All any government agency has to do to audit a bank is open an account there. Thats right any government agency, city, local, state, and federal need only open an account and they can audit the entire company at there whim. Doesn’t sound that bad, but let me tell it disrupts business, wastes time and money and accomplishes nothing because if regulators and auditors providing “oversight” knew what they were doing this economic collapse would not have happened. Those of who are conservative bankers saw the folly of the Government, fannie mae and freddie mac, buying all home loans, not just backing low income loans. We all saw that banking decisions would no longer be made on credit wothiness, but on an expedited timetable to sell the loan to the above mentioned agnecies. What this did was remove risk from the bank lending money because the government was buying the loan usually within 30 days of the closing. So instead od banks making good long term decisions, most banks chose to accept the regulation and make fee income selling loans to the government rather than interest income for 30 years. All of the above was caused by direct regulation and interferrence from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. It was the new regulations that caused this collapse. We would not be in this financial mess if Fannie and Freddie did not exist. Fewer people would have bought homes, but 99%+ would be able to afford that home.

  • jeff

    dude the problem is
    #1 everyone has their hand in the jar.how can we move forward if there is nothing helping us go that way.everyone needs help at some point in time.reguardless of their race or religion.the government is there to help us not to do everything for us.they give foodstamps and healthcare and other things but there is so many people that can work and don’t.stop and think about all the government does for people all people.if someone needs help they should get help but you also have to help yourself too.we need to stop having blocks put everywhere because we don’t fit the model.we all have a voice and we all have ideas but noone wants to hear them because of some thing or another
    #2 everyone is so worried about what the next person is doing.if we worried about what we are doing and where we are going then we will have more focus on how to deal with our problems.
    #3 love for ourselves.how many people love themselves not many to be frankly if you really loved yourself then you wouldn’t be worried about the next person.it sounds conceited but its true if you have love for yourself then you would do your best.
    there is more but i am going to stop here for now.

  • jeff

    the debt is out of control.when is it going to go the other way.we need to think about our future and what it is going to be.keep going this way there will be nothing left for our children and so on.i am not rich with money but i have love for myself and for life itself.i want my family and friends to be free and have a good life.but most of all i love god and always will i don’t go to church but i have god in my heart.thats what matters.i don’t bother anyone and don’t want to be bothered.i don’t ask you to eat meat and don’t want you to do something you don’t believe in so don’t ask that of me.if you want your children to wear a helmet and pads to ride a bike then go on with it but if my kid rides without shut your mouth.its not your business.is it.maybe i should start complaining about everything you do and you will see how it is.i like to hunt and fish that is how it was done years ago that is how it should be.stop trying to change everyones life to be like you.because if you want me to be like you then you have no respect for each individual like i do.everyone is different.you treat me right i’ll treat you right.you turn on me i have the right ot turn on you.if you hit me i have the right to hit you.do on to others as you would want to be done to you.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jill

    Very good Marxist, liberal, democrats, since your convention and the call for bloggers to get the liberal message out, I must say more of you are taking your jobs seriously and are infiltrating the “poor conservatives’ websites” at an alarming rate. Wow good for you. What do you win? Free health care? Amnesty? (from future crimes you will commit yelling in the streets and throwing bottles at the cops) A trip to Spain with the first lady? May-be favor with your union boss? A free trip to New York to see the New Mosque? Free nukes? (The current president doesn’t have any use for them.)
    Whatever it is, I hope that it is worth all the American blood that has been spilled fighting against the commies. Your reward is here on earth so enjoy but remember this – You are going down….

  • Norman

    The problem is: you people can’t agree on anything. Everybody wants to blame the other one. You need to try to reach the end goal. The Constitution. This government wants you DIVIDED. Can’t you see what they want. United we stand. Remember. Pull it out people.

  • Marilyn

    This just in from Personal Liberty Alerts:
    In 1910, on a tiny and secluded island off the coast of Georgia, a group of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world held a meeting that would change the course of history. They arrived there after a secretive train trip from New York, where they left under the cover of darkness. There they hatched a plan — in meetings so secretive that the servants attending them never learned their names — that would eventually become the Federal Reserve, the most blatant scam in the history of the world.

    The Creature from Jekyll Island explores the conspiracy behind the Federal Reserve like no other book. It reads like a detective novel. And it may be the most important book you’ll ever read.

    Read The Creature from Jekyll Island and you’ll truly grasp what money is — and what it isn’t — and you’ll know once and for all the true cause of wars, boom-bust cycles, inflation, depression and prosperity.

    I think this will enlighten many readers. I have read college texts and the Federal Reserve sections were most enlightening. Scary.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/asset-and-wealth-protection/wealth/economic-perspective-personal-liberty/ Lonas Buckley

    What kind of gold and silver, what institutions? How can I get my hands on gold and silver, in my hands not on paper? Is it not better than a piece of paper? Seriously concerned.

  • MRF

    PAUL:
    FIRST is not the Jew that is at fault. Is the damn Catholic church, racist, gay and pedophilic. You are also forgetting the damn MUslims that live in the dark ages, that think that they are right and their religious believes HAVE TO be spread on the rest of human kind. Stop blaming the Jews!
    SECOND it was CLINTON who caused the American Banking downfall. A SOCIAL DEMOCRAT, NATIONAL SOCIALIST who’s wife wasn’t good enough in bed… It started with ENRON and finished with MADOFF. If you are stupid and greedy enough to invest your money in utopic financial scheams that is your problem. I DID NOT LOOSE MONEY!!!

    • http://NaturalMedicalHealth.com Doug Stetson

      Madoff is the ultimate libral-progressive. Any other candidates?

  • MRF

    LONAS BUCKLEY:
    IT TAKES CASH ON HAND, PLUS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION AND A VERY SAFE PLACE TO STORE IT. GOLD TRANSFER IS A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER, BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

  • guyb

    Our elected officals will not allow us to bring our great nation back…. pelosi and obama and reid cut 50,000 jobs in northern calif and blamed Bush( I mean a fish)delta smelt. baloney….They want to control the jobs,food and energy so they can control us. We have 100s of billions on barrels of oil right here in America and we could drill and create millions of jobs and stop giving the muslims 100s of billions of our dollars every year and pull out of our problem of over spending. Lets take our nation back….

  • Norm Ford

    As an outsider looking in, from the land of Oz, I’m amazed at the poor quality of English Grammar and Spelling, especialy as F7 opens up Spell Checker.
    The US is very generous in its aid to the rest of the world, and perhaps if more aid was spent on the needy of our world, (including your “on shore” population) and not on Arms, maybe the rest of the world would be a better place.
    Here in Australia our Federal Reserve is owned by the Government, (not other Banks like the USA) plus is independent and makes it decisions without obvious interference from outside parties. Even our politicians will not say anything to impact on the “cost of money” Ruling Interest Rates. The Aust. Dollar is now very close to parity with the US, the first time since 1987 when it was floated.
    Why do you allow a few to become so powerful?
    The average Australian reading the above posts would be truely amazed, especially by the zealots amongst you.
    But as you say “have a great day!”
    Should be “Make it a Great Day!”

  • Mary

    To Paul and several other responders:
    Please perform the minimal tasks of running your comments through spelling and grammer check before posting your remarks. You remarks will be taken a little more seriously if you show that you care enough about yourself to use your language (which I am assuming is the English language) in a proficient manner.
    Thank you.

  • http://yahoo abby

    The media, the government representatives (Congress & the Senate) and the committees formed to seek ways to balance the budget need only look at the top. Rather than cutting benefits for the middle class such as Social Security, etc. raising taxes on gas, etc. are really still looking for ways to obtain more money from the people.
    what they need to do is start reducing government immediately. Consolidate similar agencies, restricting salaries for the current government workers including Congress & the Senate, initiate a system whereby these members must contribute to their retirements, enforce the health care to apply to everyone, unions, congress, senate and their families. All bills signed into law must be binding on the representatives that make them, not just the “little people”.
    Also, institute term limits on these guys. That way they will work for the people, not line their pockets and grab power. Being our representatives should not be a life time job; it should be no more than two terms. Let new people come in, with new and fresh ideas, initiate new ways of accomplishing the laws; ensure all laws are under the auspices (sp) of the Constitution. The

  • http://yahoo abby

    The media, the government representatives (Congress & the Senate) and the committees formed to seek ways to balance the budget need only look at the top. Rather than cutting benefits for the middle class such as Social Security, etc. raising taxes on gas, etc. are really still looking for ways to obtain more money from the people.
    what they need to do is start reducing government immediately. Consolidate similar agencies, restricting salaries for the current government workers including Congress & the Senate, initiate a system whereby these members must contribute to their retirements, enforce the health care to apply to everyone, unions, congress, senate and their families. All bills signed into law must be binding on the representatives that make them, not just the “little people”.
    Also, institute term limits on these guys. That way they will work for the people, not line their pockets and grab power. Being our representatives should not be a life time job; it should be no more than two terms. Let new people come in, with new and fresh ideas, initiate new ways of accomplishing the laws; ensure all laws are under the auspices (sp) of the Constitution. The health care plan is supposedly under the commerce section of the Constitution. Bull!!! These lawyers look for a way around everything.
    And, why aren’t those people in these high positions paying their taxes? Why aren’t they being fined, jailed, etc. as you and I would be if we did the same thing. No one is above the law.
    Will our representatives vote for term limits? Will our representatives contribute to their retirements as we have had to do: Will our representatives fall under the bills they pass?
    The answers are probably not; they have made a neat cushion of benefits and power and will not want to lose it. Until our representatives start sharing in the hurt, nothing will happen but that they dish it out to the “little guy”.
    As for the expiring tax breaks, they should go up for the rich individuals, not the business that make this country run. Maybe this is where a fair tax should come in. But of course that would eliminate a need for the massive IRS structure and employees.
    Let’s look at the reality of the situation, not at what to cut and tax for the “little guy”

  • http://none(twitterMyButt,.com)ifsomebodyhelpsme,comeon,Ineedthehelp Jorge

    I am Cuban. Nobody knows more about what is going on that one’s that came from the same shit that is infiltrating the USA. 50 years after the Cuban Revolution and a few weeks back, Fidel came on TV and said “this is not working out”! The revolution has not done anything other than make the Cuban population simple slaves. You can go to Cuba’s University and take anything and as long as you can pass the exams, you can continue. So thousands of Meds graduated but none make more than the equivalent of about $30 dollars a day, so they go out and waiter at the same hotels that Cuba took from the USA 50 years ago (owned now by not only the Cubans but the new partners from England, Spain etc.)
    Talk to me baby…… There is nothing; they walk around, they have nothing all they do is their best to feed their family! So this is what Pelosi wants, she has an airplane, she makes a ton of money and she has the Walter Reed Hospital at her disposal. Same shit in Cuba, this is what the USA is going to be unless we wake up and get them out of here. This is not “Change you can believe on” but rather Shit that you are taking on “50 Years of nothing and look at Spain doing the same, same shit in England and the same in the USSR.
    I say down with the Unions, if a man works he does not have to fear the owner, if a man can fish he does not have to wait for a fish given by the government. So, get it or just die, your kids don’t know the difference!
    So want you want? Either fight or just be a “dummy” and your kids will do the same. OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA! Obama, George Soros and the rest of the crowd are there to help you to be nobody.
    I am too old to see it, but I am sorry for my grandchildren that can’t fight for themselves.
    Thanks for listening for the ranting!
    JC

    • J__44

      Thank you sir. I hope these people can understrand what you have said to them. You are a true american Sir. It is because of immigrants like you that our country became great. I honor you. Teach your children and try to keep them out of public schools. The bucket of red serpent rats have taken the schools and hate everything you and I stand for. Older Americans will understand you, younger ones who have been indoctrinated by the Red Rats, will hate you.

  • Brant

    READ “BROKE”, GLENN BECK…

  • Leon

    One thing that I think is missing here is the people concentrate on the things on the news each day and forget about what is going on in our government. Every time almost without exception when the government wants to pull the wool over our eyes they will wait until there is a good news story, or they create one, to divert your attention away from what they are up to.
    The silence is defining from Obamas opposition I have been wondering about that for 2 yrs now. Something is not right! 2 min worth of voice then nothing else in my book is not opposition. Not one time was all the bad things in the health care bill voiced to us so we could help defeat it before it was passed. All that voted for it are still not taking responsibility for their roll in it’s passage. They use the poor excuse that they didn’t read it! How utterly stupid can you be! Some of those got reelected, how utterly stupid are we for that to happen! Sleep is normally done at night not stay asleep while you vote! Is stealing the value of your money by printing to much of it any easier to accept than just being robbed on the street.
    Which is worse your money being worth 20% less or your taxes going up 20%. We would howl till the cows come home if tax increases happened, No outrage on Ben’s decision to print 600 billion though. The 20% tax raise is just on what you get taxed on the devalued dollar is every dollar you handle. If you don’t like what Ben has done guess you know there is not one thing you can do. He answer’s to no one that you can control. Think it’s time to abolish the fed. We can no longer depend on those we elect to look out for us on their own. WE MUST DEMAND IT. Email, write, call whatever just make them accountable! Obama can’t do everything he is doing on his own. People in Germany set and watched too you know how that worked out!

  • http://none Roy Huntley

    I signed up for this not realising that it might fill my computer space. You guys cannot possible be more conservative than I so I will not likely learn anything from you. I really loved Joe Sobran, bless him. I take the New American Magazine from The John Birch Society and will never be with out it. I like what I heve read from you but I just don’t have time for it all. I am 81 and will not be around much longer anyway so if you don’t mind please take me off the list. I do appreciate you and so far have agreed with all you sent but I have been studying the NWO crap for some 50 years. Adios and good luck.

  • Robert M. LeFever

    I’m in agreement with Roy Huntley. If the American public had been listening when the John Birch Society first began, we wouldn’t be in this mess today. In the late ’50s, the JBS discovered in the Los Angeles school system that grade school teachers were asking their students if their father owned firearms. If affirmative answers came forth, next question was, “how many”. JBS and New American Magazine have been putting out the entire message for years and not many were listening. I think it will play out as in Germany, Russia, China, etc. Still not many are hearing the message. As far as the current regime is concerned with their “spread the wealth” idea, the old story of not eating the Goose that lays the GOLDEN EGGS surely applies here. The RICH people running a business and paying taxes are not the problem, IT’S THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK THAT CONTROLS THE MONEY. Chop the head off a snake and the rest will die.!!

  • charleydan

    I think an economic review is needed. The creation of the Federal Reserve opened the door to allow foreigners to create money. Thereby, inflate and deflate the money at their will. Our forefathers warned of this as the most evil thing that could happen to the constitutionn and this country. Woodrow Wilson also admitted to his crime in allowing the creation of the Federal Reserve.

    The next most significant event came in the Nixon administration. The USA did not have money for the Viet Nam war. So they abandoned the gold standard for our currency. Opening the doors wide open to inflate and deflate our currency by the Federal Reserve bankers and politicians. Then Kissinger made an agreement with the Middle East to develop their oil in exchange for the dollar to be used as the World Currency to purchase the oil. This made the dollar the world reserve currency.

    No one talked of export and import balances anymore. It was buy, buy, buy, import, import, import. Manufacturing jobs went overseas as these countries needed dollars to buy oil and Americans enjoyed a cheaper consumer life.

    It was only a matter of time that another scenario would collapse the deck of cards. Warren Buffet has written a fine paper on this. It is derivatives and in particular OTC derivatives. These derivatives is like you and I making a bet about a ball game. The bet is only as good as you are good on the bet. This little game is over 900% of the GDP of the world and most of it is in the USA banks.

    The last bank crisis was due to this problem. First congress passed laws forcing banks to loan to home owners who could not make payments. When those loans started to default. Well, one of the institutions with the derivatives saying they would make good. Went bankrupt or did not keep his side of the bet. The company expecting the money. Well, no money to get. That deck of cards would have collapsed the whole system, without intervention(printed money). The problem is that it is still real and still haunts the financial system I believe it will eventually bring it to ruins. Without the bets off and paid up. It is a deck of cards.

    Now need to go back and hit the real crux of this. Only having a Federal Reserve allowed money to be printed and thereby allowed people to get money to spend freely. Inflationary. If there was not a Federal Reserve the importing/exporting extreme in balance could not happen. Inflation. Allowing Americans to live beyond their means(credit everywhere to buy frivolous things). Inflationary. Neither loaning to people who could not repay. Inflationary. All this was done by politicians to get your vote. Now the Federal Reserve and other countries sees our ability to repay is not as good any more and are scrambling to get as much of their return on this debt before default.

    What do you mean default. A town in Alabama proved this scenario. When one can not pay they bankrupt. Those retired government workers got noticed their retirement checks are not coming anymore. No more. The wealth fare recipients the same. This was on sixty minutes and several big states said, it is only a matter of time and they will be following suit in some fashion. I feel for all those tied to government as they will pay the dearest. For Union workers. Look at your pension. Notice the increase in bonds, government bonds they have purchased. In default, bonds are some of the first to go. Every one who has been screaming. Government needs to do something. Will pay the dearest and rightfully so.

    All that dollar reserve currency is now coming home as other countries do not trust us to be good on it and that will inflate the dollar. Americans will purchase less and less with the greenback.

    The deck of cards is about to fall. I do not care if your Republican or Democrat. As long as you believe the government is to be an us thing and needs to solve our problems. You will be a slave to government in taxation and regulation.

    That is why our forefathers wrote extensively to future generations. To protect your liberty and your money. As government is your enemy and will gladly chain you to slavery of taxation to do their government will.

    Down with the Federal Reserve which allows foreigners to steal American citizens wealth. First by inflation and then deflation.

  • Myke

    Nicely put charleydan

  • Anya

    I’m new here so I may be stating the obvious or already said. Has no one else noticed? Might sound racist but not intended. We in Nevada have 14% unemployment with 10% of those employed are Illegals–not day workers but gainfully employed. I am soooo tired of the daddy’s working in construction, casino kitchens, elsewhere while the mommy’s apply for TANF, Medicaid, food stamps/EBT, LIHEA, CCDF. They are bankrupting our local governments. Clark County School District (Las Vegas) says they have 35% “transient” students–new here this year. Well almost nobody is moving here to work and the retirees don’t have many school kids, so our K-12 is about 35% illegals–plus those illegals who’ve been here more than a year. OK, macro math here. 10% of 140,000 employed in Vegas area is 14,000 jobs our 99ers could have. Today, the unblessed Senator Harry Reid will speak to our state Legislature and tell us how we must embrace our Latino brothers, welcome them and keep them happy while they assault us on our streets and in our homes and STEAL OUR ECONOMY. The teachers and other government employees just don’t seem to get it. The taxpayers are tapped out paying for illegals. Teachers here want us to pay for wrap around services so the teachers can dispense aid to who they think needs it…..

  • Billy

    I’ve been trying to make sense of all this since obama was elected. I started tuning in Glen Beck on Fox news, and he has been putting it together very nicely. I watch him as often sa I can. Its all a scam for the new world order. The liberals,progressives, communists, and muslims of the world are out to take down America, and the capitalist economies of the world.I hope we can stop them, but if more Americans don’t wake up and realize whats going on, I don’t think we will come out of this as the America our founding fathers intended for us. Tune into Glen Beck, do your research, get the facts. The people in Washington are feeding us a bunch of crap, and a lot of people are going along with it. God help us, and bless America.

  • http://msn.com Linda

    Don’t you see. The DEVIL has a short time to do his evil in the world before JESUS comes back and he is coming back soon whether any of you beleive it or not . GOD has given us this time to prepare our hearts and get saved through JESUS CHRIST before the end of time which is approaching soon. JESUS will split the eastern sky and everyone will know who and when he returns when he does. He is coming back in his city of JERUSULAM in ISRAEL. Those people are his choosen people.
    The anti-christ is about to appear on the scene too.
    Don’t you see that they want to destroy capitalism in america and let it become a one world government and one world currency that is what all that is going on in the world now and it has been planned.Read the book THE COMING INSERRECTION!!!!! All they care about is power and money and want stop to get what they want. They don’t care about our econmy in america they only care about destroying what this country was founded on with GOD like principles and morals. It’s time all Christians stood up for God,Country And Families like Gleen Beck said on his show yesterday and The Truth Has No Agenda!!!!!

  • Ridge Runner

    Sic em Granny go get them.I haven’t heard this much shit come out of some idiot’s mouth in a long time.they mustbe biting them selfs in the ass and it must taste real bad because they talk bad.i have known lots of jews and worked for several jews and all of them have been good to me.the worst ones that i worked for was the english.One of the jews that i worked for gave one of my co workers that had to have a back operation and was out for about three months not working a check every week.Now i ask you paul does this sound like a bad person. you sound like you have been listing to obama’s preacher rev wright.(dud wrong)

  • BimBam

    Important message:

    In order to grow an economy our politicians engulfed themselves on the homosexual John Maynard Keyenes policy of deficit spending.

    You see, in order for capital to grow there must be credit, credit means there must be money available. Therefore, government prints more money to make capital.

    This all works find and dandy for awhile, say like 50 years then the trend works backwards, it starts to create inflation and debt.

    It’s all based on smoke and mirrors and we all have been fooled. All what you see now was always based on DEBT. In another words in the end we really owned nothing of value.

    That is why God instituted the Jubilee years where all debt is wiped out and the land is returned to its original owners. In another words a complete RESET.

    This has not been done and the result of disobedience is always catastrophic.

    So catastrophic it’s referred to in the Bible as the TRIBULATION or one might say also, the day of reckoning where we all have to pay the piper now.

    How does the piper solve his problem? Oh, he starts wars, that’s how he resets his debts.

    Good day!

  • C.W.Crosby

    God Has warned us of the consequences of abandoning his chosen people , God bless the Jewish people and damn those who would do them harm or refuse to help them . My savior , Jesus Christ , happens to be Jewish . Any enmity between them and God is just that , between them and God . It is only through Jesus and Gods grace and mercy that he paid the price for us gentiles who accept his gift .

  • Jewish Mama

    WOW. Many of these comments are beyond rediculous! To the nazis here, go study the truth, Jewish people have never caused any of the problems you so ignorantly blame us for. Those who despise the rich, those of us who are poor, cannot provide you with a job. The rich really do provide jobs. So they’re greedy, that motivates them to establish businesses and to be successful. That in turn makes those businesses grow. When businesses grow, they hire more people. It’s really good to have a job. To those of you who are rich here: Thank you so much for being willing to cough up so much in taxes. I know we have already asked a lot of you, and you pay a lot more than the “a little more” that Obumer claims you should. It’s time to cut the size of government. It’s time to cut rediculous programs. I am really poor right now. I have received help from the government, to feed my children. My income is so low, I do not pay income taxes. I am tired of the government knowing everything about me, sniffing around in absolutely every area of my life. This is slavery. I appreciate the safety net, but I sure don’t want to keep living like this. If this government would back off those who produce, maybe we could all build some wealth. SO, to those of you are business owners, to the wealthy, and all of you who pay the load of taxes in this country, I just want to say: Again, Thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart for all you have contributed. And I agree, it’s time this government learns to work with what it has instead of forever demanding more.

  • J M Bolt

    Problem began when the Federal Reserve was created and Presedent Wilson sign bill giving our money system to Fed.Reserve

  • Loyd Olin

    AMERICAN INDIAN POINT OF VIEW

    SELF-IMPORTANCE IS THE ISSUE HERE….AND IT IS MAN’S GREATEST ENEMY…..WHAT WEAKENS HIM IS FEELING OFFENDED BY THE DEEDS AND MISDEEDS OF HIS FELLOW MEN…..SELF-IMPORTANCE REQUIRES THAT ONE SPEND MOST OF ONES LIFE OFFENDED BY SOMETHING OR SOMEONE…..OUR ELDERS HAVE UNMASKED SELF-IMPORTANCE AND FOUND THAT IT IS SELF PITY MASQUERADING AS SOMETHING ELSE……THE THRUST OF THE WARRIOR’S WAY IS TO DE-THRONE SELF IMPORTANCE….AND EVERYTHING WARRIORS DO IS DIRECTED TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING THIS GOAL….WARRIORS CAN NEVER MAKE A BRIDGE TO JOIN THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD…..BUT IF PEOPLE DESIRE TO DO SO, THEY HAVE TO MAKE A BRIDGE TO JOIN WARRIORS…….

  • Crystal

    Problem began when the Rockefeller Family bought America, and MONOPOLIZED her. This family is greedy, and has donated MILLIONS of Dollars toward the destruction of America. They DO NOT care about you or I, only themselves. This family has too much money, and too much power. Here is a nice quote from Rockefeller, Speaking at the Sept. 23, 1994 United Nations Ambassadors’ dinner, David Rockefeller remarked,

    “This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long.” “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

    There you have it…. Go research Skeletons in the Closet:Rockefeller History. You will be surprised when you see just what this family has done, is doing now, and won’t stop until it achieve’s final implementation. It IS madness…..

  • grreed

    Dear God
    please forgive those that don’t understand.
    Down with the WHO
    Stand up yee of faith and lock arms together.
    We can and will triump in the end.
    Let them rant,but rebuke softly.
    Builderberg and company are the anti-christ.

  • Dove

    Thank you for your insightful article. May is serve to “OUR HIGHEST AND BEST GOOD.”

  • Frank Maynard

    You have taken on some lofty goals . I have one more to your “to do ” list . Can you find out why Obama is having a bunch of UN vehicles shipped to the US by way of Port Beaumont , Texas and storing them in Lafayette Louisiana . I suspect it has something to do with his agreement to the UN’s “Small Arms Treaty ” which will allow the UN to come to American soil and confiscate guns in Obamas name .

  • Phillipe Violette

    Is Obama the antichrist?

  • http://www.charter.net HTCM USN James Graham

    1. O The Time Has Indeed Come!
    Governors of 35 states have already filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (of the 50) States to convene a Constitutional Convention.
    This will take less than thirty seconds to read. If you agree, please pass it on.
    An idea whose time has come!
    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest was to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform … in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have elite that is above the law.
    I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.
    The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971…before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land…all because of public pressure.
    I’m asking each addressee to forward this Email to a minimum of twenty people on their Address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.
    In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one proposal that really should be passed around.1. Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:American Conservative says:December 7, 2010 at 11:09 amAn Amendment to the Constitution may be the only way; but how it is worded means everything. I suggest that it be stated like this:The Executive, Judicial, Legislative Branches of the Federal Government – employee(s), appointee(s), bureaucrat(s), volunteer(s) and all elected person(s) of the Republic are subject to, without exception or exclusion, all Laws and Executive Orders (Executive Orders are not enforceable as Law without Legislative passage by Majority vote of each elected Party of both Houses of the Congress) that are passed upon the citizen, and non-citizen alike. All person(s) that have sworn/affirmed an oath to Defend the Constitution of the Republic of the United States are subject to said Laws. No person(s) subject to the Constitution of the Republic will be exempt from the affect/effect of this Amendment. Failure of the United States Justice Department to enforce Federal Law(s) upon the Executive, Judicial, Legislative Branches of the Federal Government will be guilty of Treason against the Constitution of the Republic. United States Law is the only Law authorized to be used to decide or determine the ruling of any case affecting/effecting the Republic of the United States or its Citizens and it is Treason against the Republic for any Court to use/consider any other Law to make its ruling. The United States is a Republic and English is the Official Language of the peoples of the Republic. All Legal Documents are to be in the Official Language and no other without exception. This Amendment affects/effects Past, Present, Future of the Republic.
    You are one of my 20+.Keep it going, Jim.

  • http://www.charter.net HTCM USN James Graham

    WAYNE ALLYN ROOT: Overwhelm the system
    Barack Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos — thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within. Barack Obama is my college classmate ( Columbia University , class of ’83). As Glenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University . They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below.
    Taken individually they’re alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

    – Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care. It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn’t care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

    – Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama’s biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama “spread the wealth around.”

    – Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who’s asking for a 51st state? Who’s asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression? Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama’s plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

    – Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America . But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government. Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

    – Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions — including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America . The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

    – Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

    With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.

    Add it up and you’ve got the perfect Marxist scheme — all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama using the Cloward and Piven Plan.

  • SMSgt Z retired Nam 68

    Shut in get out if you are a Father get out with your children if your dad is still living talk to him.

    Also have your med’s checked you all spend way to much time on this web site

  • Peter

    There are an awful lot of posts on this thread. It kind of makes me feel better knowing there are so many other like minded people still out there.

    It is a sad and dangerous future but we’ll prevail. Remember we are Americans and as Churchill said “Americans will always do the right thing but only after they have exhausted every other possible alternative!”

  • Pedro A Delgado

    I have read many (~10%) of the comments here.

    I believe that if you probably could add what it is truth in them you probably could come close to 100% of the total truth on the subject matter.

    I love Jews.

    I have visited Israel and had seen how their citizens deserve respect and appreciation for their civilized ways.

    I believe that they are the chosen people not because they were something superior but just because the Lord wanted to be that way (Deuteronomy 7:6, 7)

    I believe that there is going to be blessing and cursing from the Lord to those that help and those that attack Israel respectively (Genesis 12:3)

    Jesus was a Jew that died for other Jews and the rest of of the people in the Planet to be the bridge of reconciliation between God The Father and humanity (Isaiah 53).

    Jesus was born a Jew (Micah 5:2)

    Jews are much more “advanced culturally ” that other ethnic groups due to the emphasis that they put in education for themselves.

    As a consequence they surpass other groups in every sphere good and bad.

    In the good, they excel in wealth, medical discoveries, in Nobel Prizes, etc.

    In the bad, their numbers way surpass any other ethnic group in membership of CFR, TC and Bilderberg
    groups as well as in the Top Group that directs the mentioned groups.

    But, this fact in no way should presuppose that Jews are evil but that bad Jews because their higher intellect do much better than others in their evil pursuits.

    Our Country is in an extremely serious predicament in almost every respect.

    Basically we have lost our Country as presently we are not a shadow of what we used to be.

    To get it back (on time before it gets utterly destroyed) it is basically impossible as that would require
    at least 20-30% of the people to know what it is going on.

    And that requires obtaining discernment for that group which in the time we have left is not a possibility.

    The Communist Manifest have been implemented for many decades on the unsuspecting citizenry and the overwhelming majority of the people in the Country do not realize that we live in a Socialist Country
    which is the antithesis of what our Founders established more than 200 years ago.

    It is very sad for somebody like myself that came to this blessed Country escaping from a Marxist tyranny almost 50 years ago.

    Still if people repent and follow 2nd Chronicles 7:14 we could be saved from the horror coming soon.

    I do not think that it will happen and on the contrary believe that we will be destroyed as a Nation and that this will allow the One world Government to be formed to bring the AntiChrist in little time which of course will be totally destroyed by The Lord Jesus Christ shortly after (Revelation 19:11-21)

  • http://testra.com John Hart

    WHAT IS HAPPENING!?

    is obvious when Wealth is viewed as a contract not a possession.

    Contracts that are not mutually beneficial are a form of slavery,
    as is income tax.

    Protecting wealth is Government’s primary purpose, because without wealth access to rights are limited.

    No one, especially Government, has the right to force anyone to work for them. Government has the right to levy taxes on assets and commerce. Taxing wages is slavery and “Government Benefits” in support of it are like breadcrumbs to bakers.

    To promote “General Welfare” Government needs to promote savings, not borrowing and taxing for entitlements, that lock lower classes in endless poverty.

    What made America great was freedom and entrepreneurship, not enslaving taxes and redistribution. The only way out of the economic mess is to abolish economic slavery. (Taxing Income)

    The Super Elite Wealthy don’t spend a minute working for Government, the Poor spend half their lives. If we’d take the tax burden off the poor they’d be middle class and the middle class would retain enough wealth not to need Government handouts.

    It’s not by dollars the load of taxes should be measured, but by the time a persons labors for Government. From this perspective the poor work the longest and the wealthy the least.

    The solution is to abolish income tax, which is regressive and replace it with a progressive asset tax that is fair.

    Any questions?

  • Rick Leonard

    In my opinion, our problems started when our Representative Replublic fell prey to the cause of former Democratic systems; starting way back with the Roman Empire.

    The Roman Senators began giving bread flower to the people, so they would vote for them. Then, they started giving bread.

    Taxes were not adequate to support the massive Millitary and give Bread to all of the people.

    So, the Romans enlisted the Military help of the peoples to the North, who they had taken control of. These people decided they wouldn’t only take a small part of Rome and attacked and destroyed the once Mighty Empire.

    The United States has permitted Politicians to Buy Votes in many different ways; circumventing the Representative Republic that was established with our Declaration of Independence from Great Britain and our Constitution, with it’s amendments.

    Now it is Government by the Special Interests, for the Special Interests. All of whom are experts at delivering Propaganda, rather than truth.

    Following the will of the Special Interests has caused serious Unintended Consequences; since our Representatives don’ know how to evaluate what amounts to Project Plans of Legislation.

    We the People never know the actual reason that Legislation is passed. However, I believe it isn’t what we are being led to think.

    Nobody in our Political History is completely innocent of causing our problems; since they either agreed with or didn’t understand what they were doing.

    President Reagan is looked at as a pillar of the Conservative Movement. However, he misjudged the impact of what the Congress would do with his agreement to sign what they wanted passed, if they would reduce the Federal Income Tax.

    President Reagan signed the Tax Reform Act of 1986; with Unintended Consequences of Eliminating the Investment Tax Credit and Lengthening
    the Depreciation Allowance for Developers and Home Builders. It killed the Savings and Loans and almost Killed most of the Corporations, who relied on the Investment Tax Credit for their only Profit.

    It lead to Downsizing and Elimination of many Employee Benefits that had been paid out of current profits. The Federal Government had to set up another Bureacracy to handle the loss of Retirment Income by long term employees.

  • http://AOL.COM FRENCHIE

    I KNOW THIS IS SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC, BUT I HAD TO LET IT BE KNOWN TO THE TRUE PATRIOTS HERE….I WAS JUST ON VISIONTOAMERICA.ORG, CHECKING OUT A STORY ABOUT AN INVESTIGATOR WHO WAS SAYING HOW THEY CAN’T WAIT TO SEE NANCY PELOSI IN AN ORANGE JUMP SUIT. WELL, ME BEING ME, I HAD TO ALSO POINT OUT THAT COMRADES OBAMA, RIED, & HOLDER SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT CROWD AS WELL,& TRIED FOR TREASON. I POINTED OUT THAT IF ERIC HOLDER WAS DOING HIS JOB AS HE SHOULD, THEY WOULD ALL BE IN JAIL. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED ? This comment has been deleted by the administrator.

    Read more: Investigator Says, ‘I can’t wait to see Nancy Pelosi in an orange jumpsuit’ | Vision to America http://visiontoamerica.org/2444/investigator-says-i-cant-wait-to-see-nancy-pelosi-in-an-orange-jumpsuit/#ixzz1SNW7elGM I WENT FURTHER ON TO SAY THAT THERE’S SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE IN WASHINGTON WHO CAN OVERRIDE ERIC HOLDER & BRING JUSTICE DOWN ON THEM, BUT THEY’RE TOO SCARED OF IT FAILING & THEY’LL END UP BEING THE ONES ON TRIAL FOR TREASON FOR TRYING TO LEAD A COUP. I THEN FINISHED BY SAYING HOW OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF US ALL FOR ALLOWING OURSELVES TO BE LED TO THE SLAUGHTER LIKE SO MANY SHEEP. WELL, This comment has been deleted by the administrator. FUNNY THOUGH, HOW THEY ALLOWED MY NEXT COMMENT ABOUT HOW MY CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED 1st AMENDMENT RIGHTS HAD BEEN WILLFULLY VIOLATED BY THE COMRADE ADMINISTRATOR & ASKING HOW LONG BEFORE THE SWAT TEAM SURROUNDED MY HOUSE ? SOMEHOW, I CAN’T HELP PICTURING JACK NICHOLSON IN DRESS GREENS SCREAMING ” YOU WANT THE TRUTH ? YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH” AT THIS “ADMINISTRATOR”. I GUESS YOU CAN’T TALK ABOUT HOW CAREER POLITICIANS/BUREAUCRATS ARE TOO WORRIED ABOUT COVERING THEIR OWN A$$E$ TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ANYMORE & HOW OUR SUPPOSED “LEADERS” ARE NOTHING BUT THUGS IN BUSINESS SUITS WHO DO AS THEY PLEASE WITH NO FEAR OF RECRIMINATION FROM THE SYSTEM WHO’S RULES THEY BLATANTLY VIOLATE WITH IMPUNITY ON A DAILY BASIS. EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL SWORE AN OATH TO PROTECT & DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FROM ALL ENEMIES, FORIEGN & DOMESTIC. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE ? ARE WE AS A COUNTRY WILLING TO KEEP OUR COLLECTIVE MOUTHS SHUT ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON AROUND US, OR BE STIFLED WHEN WE TRY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF FREEDOM & JUSTICE FOR ALL EQUALLY ? OR IS THAT JUST WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO PLANT IN OUR HEADS AS THE NEW NORM ? I DON’T KNOW WHAT THESE MORONS (OR LESS-ONS, AS IT MAY BE) ARE THINKING, BUT I’M JUST ABOUT COMPLETELY FED THE —- UP WITH IT !!! SORRY ABOUT THE TANGENT, BUT I HAD TO GET THIS OFF MY CHEST BEFORE I BLEW MY STACK. I DO KNOW THIS THOUGH – I’M RIGHT ABOUT HOW THE FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD BE ASHAMED & DISGUSTED ABOUT WHAT WE’VE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY. NOW, IT’S TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT WHILE WE STILL CAN.

  • Will H

    did everyone miss the question… and that was what can we do about it…forget who to blame ,, that changes nothing.. now how about a few survival preps. for your family and self… now you are waking up.. far as I have been able to see ,, we all are to blame , , YES all of us.. now how to leave a better world for our kids,, everyone has answers, EVEN GOD ,, how many ??? maybe 1 in 10,000 people have even read the Bible .. and if not ,, you will never know truth… and that is the start of WISDOM ,, look at the rest of this world ,, why do so many people have trouble ,, because rejecting truth , saying I got all the answers ,,, they became the FOOLS …how many here called , wrote , or faxed their Congressman with answers today , or in last 5 years.. now you see you are the problem if you have no answers,, look at yourself, TRUTH never hides.. so stop the blame game and dig for answers… start with the Bible ( CHRIST IS YOUR ONLY HOPE)

  • Will H

    How many people can fix their car,repair their roof,fix the plumbing, fix their own medical problems, make their own ammo, gun smith their own firearms, ETC , ETC,, and if not ,, WHY not , we have a world filled with answers called books , something to fix anything and if you never try YOU ARE THE PROBLEM… sorry , say what you will ,,, you may have to try 100 maybe 300 times to get it right, that is called skills (learned)… and why do we have LOSERS ,, they never try , sorry again it’s all up to you and always will be……..look , seek , and ye will find………………

    • Sheryn

      Very well put ! I agree 200 %

  • Average Joe

    DON”T READ THIS!!!!!
    (unless you are ready to get angry)

    Audit of the Federal Reserve
    The first ever GAO (Government Accountability Office) audit of the Federal Reserve was carried out in the past few months due to the Ron Paul, Alan Grayson Amendment to the Dodd-Frank bill, which passed last year. Jim DeMint, a Republican Senator, and Bernie Sanders, an independent Senator, led the charge for a Federal Reserve audit in the Senate, but watered down the original language of the house bill (HR1207), so that a complete audit would not be carried out. Ben Bernanke,Alan Greenspan, and various other bankers vehemently opposed the audit and lied to Congress about the effects an audit would have on markets. Nevertheless, the results of the first audit in the Federal Reserve’s nearly 100 year history were posted on Senator Sander’s webpage earlier this morning.
    What was revealed in the audit was startling: $16,000,000,000,000.00 (TRILLION) had been secretly given out to US banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland. From the period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world’s banks, corporations, and governments. The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned and it was loaned out at 0% interest. Why the Federal Reserve had never been public about this or even informed the United States Congress about the $16 trillion dollar bailout is obvious —the American public would have been outraged to find out that the Federal Reserve bailed out foreign banks while Americans were struggling to find jobs.
    To place $16 trillion into perspective, remember that GDP of the United States is only $14.12 trillion. The entire national debt of the United States government spanning its 200+ year history is “only” $14.5 trillion. The budget that is being debated so heavily in Congress and the Senate is “only” $3.5 trillion. Take all of the outrage and debate over the $1.5 trillion deficit into consideration, and swallow this Red pill: There was no debate about whether $16,000,000,000,000 would be given to failing banks and failing corporations around the world. In late 2008, the TARP Bailout bill was passed and loans of $800 billion were given to failing banks and companies. That was a blatant lie considering the fact that Goldman Sachs alone received 814 billion dollars. As is turns out, the Federal Reserve donated $2.5 trillion to Citigroup, while Morgan Stanley received $2.04 trillion. The Royal Bank of Scotland and Deutsche Bank, a German bank, split about a trillion and numerous other banks received hefty chunks of the $16 trillion.
    “This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you’re-on-your-own individualism for everyone else.” – Bernie Sanders(I-VT)
    When you have conservative Republican stalwarts like Jim DeMint(R-SC) and Ron Paul(R-TX) as well as self identified Democratic socialists like Bernie Sanders all fighting against the Federal Reserve, you know that it is no longer an issue of Right versus Left. When you have every single member of the Republican Party in Congress and progressive Congressmen like Dennis Kucinich sponsoring a bill to audit the Federal Reserve, you realize that the Federal Reserve is an entity onto itself, which has no oversight and no accountability. Americans should be swelled with anger and outrage at the abysmal state of affairs when an unelected group of bankers can create money out of thin air and give it out to megabanks and supercorporations like Halloween candy. If the Federal Reserve and the bankers who control it believe that they can continue to devalue the savings of Americans and continue to destroy the US economy, they will have to face the realization that their trillion dollar printing presses can be stopped with five dollars worth of bullets. [Regardless of whether this money is fiat money (money printed with nothing of value to back it), if it is a currency forced on society and the world, with enforcement by the Fed, IRS, the U.S. military, et al, --which it is-- the acts of the Federal Reserve are, in essence, the transfer of greater wealth to the rich insider banks and corporations, while the rest of the world grows poorer, and as the value of this funny money grows less and less in purchasing power. These insider banks, etc., then, exchange this funny money for gold and silver, the real wealth of the world, which, then, reinflates the world with more and more devaluing federal reserve notes. This, then, creates hyper-inflation, increasing the cost of all resources and commodities, while gold and silver climb to never-seen-before levels of value. This is how the Federal Reserve insiders steal the wealth of the world and why the rich get richer while the poor get poorer. It's the world's largest Ponzi scheme! The Federal Reserve is nothing but a front for a small group of families who run a very large and successful white collar criminal Ponzi scheme. This criminal institution should be seized by the U.S. Treasury department and all assets frozen, and returned to the coffers of the U.S. Treasury in order to settle the U.S. debt and help begin to balance the U.S. deficit. All banks (listed below) should be forced to return the money received by the Federal Reserve. All families in ownership of the Fed and their agents should be located, caught, tried and jailed for grand larceny and treason against the people of the U.S.A. All government agents who protect and help facilitate this criminal organization should be fired from the positions and similarly tried and jailed for grand larceny and treason. Meanwhile, Congress should return our country to its original monetary system (Lincoln greenbacks backed by precious metals) and, again, do its duty to regulate the coining of the currency of America as per the U.S. Constitution.] The list of institutions that received the most money from the Federal Reserve can be found on page 131 of the GAO Audit and are as follows.. Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000) Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000) Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000) Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000) Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000) Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000) Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000) Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000) JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000) Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000) UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000) Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000) Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000) Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000) BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)
    –John C. Stuart aka Mobius Nemesis

    “Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is.” “The Outlaw”, Josey Wales

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    8-10-11

    Wise lady says to:

    val Cousino…

    You failed to mention the economics of President Jimmy Carter in the 70′s. You must have been born after his one term. History repeats itself.

    1. cars lined up for miles to buy gas, others were pushed to the gas stations.

    2. car pools became the norm. If you missed the car pool, too bad.

    3. shortages of all sorts popped up everyday.

    Jimmy Carter could’nt fix a flat tire if he had to.

    Average Joe….

    Great information but a time line might have helped since these loans to big banks were made over an extended period of time and done under the disguise we were improving the,”Third World Countries”, since many of so called borrowers were involved in world markets to better, “take care of the world”, by developing their natrual resources. Instead greed and corruption prevailed and came to affect the U.S. under Clinton’s 93-94 push through Congress, with Congressman Barney Frank and his ilk, for banks to make loans without proper documentation to the poor for home ownership. Many could not pay back what they borrowed. These so called Securities were sold like hot cakes to many of the banks you mentioned here in the U.S and abroad. Deutsche Bank , Citigroup, Royal Bank of Scotland, UBS and others were the worst. It is a shameful list. We had no business bailing them out.

    Now with the Frank- Dodd Regulatory Bill, the Euorpean Banks have given a thirty day notice to all American citizens to close their accounts because they will not put up with efforts to enforce the Regulations. The Bill must be Repealed!

    The G-2, Obama’s creation, is another long tedious procedure before you areallowed move an account in Euorpe from one bank to another or to the U.S. Another fiasco!

  • Big Red

    Dumocrats are conservative? What cave have you been living in?

  • TEXAS TRUTH SEEKER

    HEY AMERICA—–WAKE UP AND VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN 2012. CAN’T YOU SEE
    WITH THE WAY THE MEDIA AND THE ESTABLISHMENT ARE TREATING HIM, THAT HE
    IS THE ANSWER? I PRAY CONSTANTLY FOR HIS SAFTY ALONG WITH HIS FAMILT.
    HE AND THE MANY AMERICANS THAT KNOW THE TRUTH SHOULD NOT SETTLE FOR ANYONE BUT THE ONLY TRUE STATESMAN RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION. LET US CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR LIBERTY. 95% OF CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED BY
    PEOPLE WHO CAN DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LIVE BY IT.

  • Bob C.

    RON PAUL 2012

  • Mike

    Austrian economics is the only way out of this mess. We got a problem in this country, more like a disease and Dr. Ron Paul is the only cure.

    • Rhondar

      Yep Mike

      QUICK….GET THE DOCTOR !

  • john graham

    Well, I see some of us have failed to read, and abide by, the Comment Policy. “Life is too short for hate.”
    Steve Somers

  • MI Guest

    Bob,

    I enjoy reading your articles. Thank you very much for this service.

    I have difficulty getting through all of the comments already left, but I did have one question for you. I apologize if this is too simple a question, but I am fairly ignorant of economics. Can you please explain your statement “A depreciating currency expedites a transfer of wealth from the producers and savers to the money creators.”? In other words, how does severe inflation help the Federal Reserve or the banks that make up the Fed? Of if I am completely missing your point, I apologize in advance, but could you help me understand your thought process? Thank you in advance.

    • Rhondar

      Same premise as if gold was discovered in mass quantities then the gold you have would be less valuable…why do you think they keep such tight control on diamonds….they have a storehouse full of them but only release a small portion to the public.

      Now how does that translate into robbing the public? That’s what the federal reserve and the stock market do with booms and busts….rob the little guy and transfer the wealth to the high rollers. It’s a rigged game and more complicated than I can explain here but go on Youtube and watch the MONEY MASTERS

  • http://Theonlywaythatournationwillovercomeourdebt,waste,andfraudofmoneyistohavetermlimitsonallCongresspeople.Twotermsthat’sit.Thiswaytheycannotbebribedbylobbyist,companiesorspecialinterestgroupsbeca Doc Freeman

    The only way that our nation will over come our debt, waste, and fraud of money is to have term limits on all Congress people. Two terms that’s it. This way they can not be bribed by lobbyist, companies or special interest groups because they will not be in office long enough. Plus each state needs to have the right to recall any Congress person they deem necessary to protect the reputation of the state, such as the case of Anthony Winner, or John Ensign.

    • Citizen

      Doc Freeman: That makes good sense. Also, let’s vote for the Supreme Court Justices and give them term limits. Congressmen, Senators and yes, even the President and Vice-President should pay for their own health insurance. No more freebies on taxpayer’s money. Everybody, should pay their fair share.

  • Dr Richard W biek

    o If our USA Treasury printed all the money instead of the private [non-]Federal Reserve and loaned it to citizens, banks, state and local governments, etc.at reasonable interest rates, there would be no need for any taxes.
    o But we let the Rothschilds and Rockefellers own all the central banks and hoard $60 trillion in gold and $400 trillion in currencies — enough to buy off mass media, political parties, interest groups, academe, elected officials, etc. — set them to fight among themselves, create economic crises, create wars — to carry out their elite relentless centralization agenda.
    o Second best would be Fair Tax keeping all we earn till we buy services or new goods, ending the recession at no cost, bringing back offshorebusinesses and investors, and creating $14 trillion in new private sector jobs, and almost eliminating poverty.
    o That would be the greatest transfer of power from government to the people since the Declaration of Independence.

  • Citizen

    Savings accounts at 3% and 4% (those WERE the days). Banks were offering high interest rates for IRA’s, CD’s, Money Markets, etc… What happened? When did they go away? Will we ever see high interest rates for anything that we saved, again? Money was made in the 60′s, 70′s, 80′s, then in the 90′s those rates dwindled to where they are now in the new Millenium. $.20, $.75, etc, etc, etc….for the same investments (IRA’s, CD’s, Money Markets, savings accounts) that ordinary citizens used to have and made money on. Tell Congress and the Oval Office and White House to bring back the days when ordinary people were able to save and make good money on their investments, and maybe one day, We The People, will change the way things are now.

  • For Solutions

    I an not responding to any individual. I just joined and attempted to read every post until it struck my every one I read was focused only on blaming a party, a President or those of a particular race of people. I finally could not stomach reading another post full of blame. What good are you people doing?

    Instead of complaining and arguing (Or even agreeing) on the trouble our Country is in, wouldn’t it be better to address issues by routinely writing, emailing or calling your elected officials, especially NOW? Wake up! If enough of you write, sign petitions, do SOMETHING to take action instead of just griping here, the sheer numbers just might affect some in Washington to reconsider the more absurd bills they are voting on.

    We have helped our Country by just sitting back, complaining to each other, but doing nothing. I am not naive enough to think those in DC care about We The People, but they sure as Hell care about getting re-elected to continue lining their pockets.

    Follow the issues and who votes for and against important issues. If more people would contact these idiots, they may realize we are paying attention and losing votes. America IS waking up, but we need to DO something about it!

    I do not profess to have a political science background, am not as well read as some of you, yet I can see the corruption for myself. I am just a common sense person who is infuriated by the trashing of our Constitution, the gall of everyone who is trying to take away our freedoms, while Government proceeds to take over health care, the automotive industry and anything else it can gobble up with OUR money! I cannot think of one Government run operation that has been successful or efficient! Once Government invades free enterprise, adds more and more regulations and laws, rather than enforce the ones we already have, we get weighted down with the costs they incur with staff, committees, Czars, etc.

    My suggestions may seem pedestrian to many of you, but through persistence in contacting members of Government from my State and others, I am hearing back from some on a regular basis, directly. My persistence has opened a dialog with some of them. I keep up on bills being considered and weigh in either personally or by sisgning petitions. I always end my communications with the statement, “If you plan to have one of your office staff send me a form letter in response, please don’t waste my time or the my tax money for the postage.”

    Blaming and arguing among ourselves accomplishes nothing other than venting anger or in some cases, sick predjudice. Don’t you think it is time to stop the corruption, let the dirty players know you are on to them and let them know they will not be getting your vote? Yes, it is an uphill battle, but if enough Americans actually get involved, we can get a message across.

    I am limited to this kind of communication because I am disabled. Perhaps some of you know of other ways to be heard. If we do not speak out for our Country and rights, who will?

  • scott

    The only real answer to our counties problems are returning to sound money. The Federal Reserve is the scourge of the earth. Nothing has changed in centuries. He who controls the money controls everything. They create the money from thin air and make debt slaves of everyone else. The money changers do not earn the money they lend they just print it and indebt the masses through their slight of hand. It is time the masses wake up to their fraud. There really is NO debt because they never lent you anything because the legal tender was never backed by anything. It is all an illusion. I have many friends that are Jewish but take a long hard look at who controls the money. The root of all evil is the love of money. Abolish the Fed!!! They are the money changers. The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE CORPORATION. They have destroyed this once great country. Our Founding Fathers predicted what would happen several hundred years ago and it is happening right before our eyes. Capitalism is the best system with sound money. (Gold backed)WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

    • jerry

      Capitalism has proved to be one of the worst systems ever!

      • Holte

        Capitalism has proved to be one of the worst systems ever!

        Capitalism is the only system that has ever worked

  • FreedomFighter

    None of you actually can name the one behind all the insanity, he is making way for his annointed:

    Can you guess the name?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqxL_JaXNq8&feature=related

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Rhondar

    ELECT RON PAUL
    He’s the only one who even understands this

  • Lav

    Ron is great, but Newt Gingrich is the only one who can debate Obama effectively. If he gets Herman Cain as his running mate, that would get them over the top.

  • Elizabeth

    How can these comments be arranged in chronological order? It makes no sense to try to read them in reverse order.

  • Joseph

    Federal tax money is not to pay for essential, and nonessential services! It’s used to pay interest on our national debt.

    It took the U.S 191 years to run up its first trillion dollars in debt. In Bush’s presidency, he ran up almost 5 trillion-faster than any of his predecessors. President Obama will run up more debt in 4 years than Bush did in 8.

    Since the loans to Congress issued by the Federal Reserve are guaranteed by tax-payers, increasing taxes is a way to qualify for more credit! It is not to pay-down the debt, but to borrow more, and to meet the need of the ever increasing DEBT + % on the debt! Since the principal is never touched/reduced, and the interest on the principal never fully paid, the left-over unpaid interest is added to the principal, and the debt amount increases, and so does the need to increase taxes/raise debt ceiling, in order to qualify for more credit. This will eventually lead to default!

    When the borrower defaults, the property of the borrower, becomes the property of the lender.

  • nc

    Take the worth of each of the 1% and figure what they would STILL be worth after they have paid the proposed tax increase and tell how hard of a time time they will have “making ends meet” . as compared to the 99% who did not get 43% of the bush tax breaks. Taxes are revenue and revenues pay the bills! Any of 1% who leave our country because of the increase in taxes are not the type of people who are going to pull us out of the current mess to begin with.

  • Sheryn

    Wow Paul, I hope you do realize you will be spending eternity in Hell.

  • Holte

    Ineptocracy

    (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

    I love this word and believe that it will become a recognized English word. Finally, a word to describe our current political situation.

  • http://personallibertydigest gottaplenty

    I had a comment deleted on this site too. whats the deal?

  • http://None Michael Howard

    More people have to be made aware of the major implications of The Sentinel Management
    Group Federal Court decision on August 9th, 2012. Use your search engine to see what I mean.
    John Payne II

  • yooper04

    Well, judging these posts over the last 3 years I can see people have a wide spectrum of various beliefs about those culpable for the bad economy. I do not believe the Jews are the cause of any of our economic debacle. There are some in the Fed Reserve and financial sector who might be Jewish and therefore are partly responsible but no more than WASPS or any other ethnic or religious group.

    That aside, it is amazing to me how history can be re-written in just a few years. Reagan was perhaps the most responsible of all presidents for laying out the red carpet for US corporations to move offshore and get tax breaks for building factories and outsourcing labor. I can remember when the US companies first moved from the NE and upper midwest to the South to get cheaper labor. No unions. The corporations were not satisfied with their profits so they next moved to Mexico. Still not satisfied, they went en masse to Taiwan and China.

    I blame Clinton mostly for the damage to our economy from NAFTA. Although, in fairness, NAFTA was a Republican creation. Clinton endorsed it for political expediency and it has wreaked havoc on the US ever since. And Mexico as well.

    I am not happy with Obama’s coziness with the FED and Wall Street banks. In that respect he is no better than Republicans who equally enjoy the same cozy relationship. I wish Obama could have done more to stimulate the economy but he had to deal with recalcitrant, obstructionist Tea Partiers in Congress.

    So who is happy with Romney’s plan? Oh, wait a minute. What is his plan? Oh, yes, he will tell us after he is elected. From all of Romney’s talking points, his same simple answer is let the private sector take care of it. Isn’t the private sector responsible for much of our problems? Why would you turn the government over to a bunch of dirtgags who want to cheat on paying fair wages to US employees, outsourcing everything they can, and finding every way possible to avoid paying their fair share of taxes?

    I may end up voting for Ron Paul, as a write-in if necessary. At least Paul would change income tax to charging tarrifs on imported goods. I think that is a just thing to do, to put a 20% tarrif on everything imported from China. None of the other Republicans have any idea what to do to make up for lost revenue in huge tax cuts for the wealthy.

    • diana1987

      your post is one of the smartest ones that i have read in a while. everyone wants to blame president obama for not restoring america to her greatness in 3 years, that tells me that people in america today (not the same stock 50 years ago) what something for nothing. no sacrifice for the next generation. instant results for me should be their names, anyway corporate america wanted more profit and they have it, but you can’t run a nation successfully if you have no money coming into the operating fund. like you said it was all sent to foreign soil, i think the bible speaks about that. America is the youngest country on the planet and has a lot to learn. the government is not responsible for the personal success of a people, its responsibility is to make sure that the freedoms and liberities are available for that person to succeed not to give handouts like it started to do in the great depression era and the welfare system in the 60′s, and as it is doing today. yes i believe that everyone should have the same opportunity, and some programs should be available for the people, but basically the government should protect, educate, and make sure that every human have the right to medical care, food and education everything else is on the individual and his god to achieve greatness. American has no great leaders someone assiassinated them and if not all of them the ones that were left got scared and chose to sit and type their feelings instead of getting out in the community and helping their fellow man. just wanted type my feelings. now i am going out into the community and make a difference. making an effort not to be a hypocrite.

  • james carlin

    the way is clear to us who learn the way of the ant .we must work together to build a house with channels to link us together to be able to bring us to safety in these troubled times.

  • http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve2.htm Danny

    Most of the wars have been fought with the money changers whose printing presses have also pumped their spins or stories. Unfortunately since earlier than most books recount, the people have lost these wars.
    One of the big rarely published losses of WWII was that the money changers were once again able to dominate a battle fought initially for freedom. In this case, the banking center moved completely out of a small now infamous country to England while some of its leadership was completely preoccupied, looking in too many other directions.
    For people who believe in the Bible, who won when Jesus in anger raged at the money changers? Today many churches, doing the opposite of the one they purport to worship, focus on money accumulation and have followers focus on the corruptible and false measure of prosperity: money.
    What a war is really about is rarely truthfully told the people and much is rewritten until people forget what they experienced. And why again do we think Iran is a threat? And why are we told it’s something other than a threat to U$ money or the unmentioned Petro$?

  • Sarah

    What can we do?

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