Don’t Let Obama Get Away With It

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The funniest editorial cartoon I’ve seen this week shows a White House aide talking to Barack Obama in the Oval Office. In the first panel, he says, “The focus now shifts from the Republicans’ poorly thought-out plan to defund Obamacare.”

And the second panel concludes, “… to our poorly thought-out plan to implement it.”

Can you believe what a disaster the launch of the badly misnamed Affordable Care Act is turning out to be? It seems that the reality is even worse than many critics predicted.

Now the Democrats are scrambling to figure out how to keep the whole mess from causing even more damage, such as losing control of the Senate in next year’s elections. Faced with the massive unpopularity of the scheme, the last thing on Earth the Democrats want is for Obamacare to be the key issue in those elections. Let’s make sure it is.

Obama gave a press conference in the White House Rose Garden this past Monday, to promise that things would get better. There were 13 smiling people lined up behind him, all of them said to be shining examples of how successful his healthcare plan could be.

Guess what? Turns out that none of them had actually purchased health insurance through Obamacare. In fact, only three of them had even completed the application process.

These dismal numbers should come as no surprise. The Washington Post reports that while 4.7 million people tried to log on to Healthcare.gov, the official website for Obamacare, in the first 24 hours after it opened, fewer than 10 people — that’s right: 10 people — actually succeeded in buying health insurance.

Consumer Reports, the respected product-testing company, says that of 9.5 million people who attempted to register in the first week, only 271,000 were able to do so. And “register” doesn’t mean they bought health insurance. No, it only means they were patient enough and determined enough to navigate an unbelievably complicated, confusing and error-prone application process.

Meanwhile, in Florida some 300,000 customers of Florida Blue are being notified that their health insurance is being cancelled and that they need to sign up for Obamacare. In California, Kaiser Permanente sent similar notices to 160,000 people — half of the number it used to insure. In Pennsylvania, Independence Blue Cross says it will cancel about 45 percent of its policyholders there. The same thing is happening in State after State.

It now appears that more people are going to lose the health insurance they have than will buy new policies under Obamacare. So much for Obama’s promise that “if you like your health insurance, you can keep it.”

After analyzing the problems with the ObamaCare website, Consumer Reports offered this startling advice to its readers: “Stay away.” Because of all the software glitches, the magazine said that readers should not try to use the Healthcare.gov website “for at least another month, if you can.” And it added, “Hopefully that will be long enough for its software vendors to clean up the mess that they’ve made.”

Sure thing. In that Rose Garden pep talk, Obama said, “Nobody’s madder than me about the fact that the website isn’t working as well as it should, which means it’s going to get fixed.”

But how soon? And at what cost?

Two years ago, when CGI Federal, an information technology firm, was awarded the contract to build the website, it estimated that costs could be as high as $93.7 million to get it up and running. Now, the Government Accountability Office says that we taxpayers have poured out more than $390 million, with millions of dollars more still to be spent. The GAO estimates that another $150 million has been spent on administrative costs associated with implementing Obamacare.

That’s more than half a billion dollars in taxpayer funds that the Obama Administration has squandered so far in perpetrating this job-killing boondoggle on the American public.

To put these numbers in perspective, consider that it took Facebook over six years, from 2004 to 2010, to reach total expenditures of $500 million. During that time, it grew to several hundred million active users. (It now has more than a billion.)

Twitter, which handles more than 340 million tweets a day, operated from 2006 to 2011 with just $360 million in funding. LinkedIn and Spotify, two other hugely popular networking sites, have raised just $200 million and $288 million, respectively.

But this is government we’re talking about. It is any surprise that it costs so much and performs so badly?

Now come reports that government officials knew the Obamacare site wasn’t ready. The Washington Post reports that when the site was tested, several days before the official launch: “It crashed after a simulation in which just a few hundred people tried to log on simultaneously.”

Mike Barnicle of MSNBC, which can usually find no fault with the President, sounds like a Personal Liberty contributor in his interpretation of what’s going on. “They’re lying about it now,” he says. “They’re not depriving us of information, they are outright lying.”

The Wall Street Journal says the catastrophe is the result of deliberate decisions by the Obama Administration. “This isn’t some coding error, or even the Health and Human Service Department’s usual incompetence,” the paper editorialized. “The failures that have all but disabled Obamacare are the result of deliberate policy choices, which HHS and the White House are compounding with secrecy and stonewalling.”

Remember when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius said that the reason the servers were crashing all of the time was because of unexpectedly high demand? She called it “a great problem to have.”

Now her biggest assignment is to protect her boss from the catastrophe that is taking place. She wants us all to believe he had no way of knowing how quickly things would go so badly.

Human Events senior writer John Hayward calls this “the Incompetence Defense.” He says that’s what happens “when embattled officials insist they are blameless because they were clueless. They had no idea what their underlings were up to.”

Faced with this growing embarrassment, you can expect the powers-that-be to offer the same solution to the Obamacare fiasco that they did to their last contrived crisis, the debt-ceiling debacle: Kick the can down the road.

Obama has already delayed the employer mandate in Obamacare by a year, even though there was no authority in the Constitution or the hugely unpopular law for him to do so.

Expect him to do so again for the individual mandate. But this time, many in Congress, on both sides of the aisle, say they’ll go along with him. Even Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) has said he’ll offer legislation to delay the implementation of Obamacare for a year.

Conservatives should refuse to go along with this — not if we want Obamacare to be the deciding issue in next November’s elections. And what better? One-third of the Senate (including some very vulnerable Democrats) will face the voters then, along with every member of the House.

Let’s make those elections a massive referendum on this disastrous government takeover of our healthcare system. A majority of voters say they don’t like Obamacare. And that they want to toss out every incumbent in Washington. Let’s give them a chance to do so.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood 

Personal Liberty

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    America has turned her back on God
    America needs to turn back to God!

    There was a nation in the land of America, whose name was United States of America; and that nation was hard working God loving, God fearing and shunned evil.

    This nation’s People would worship to the God Almighty and always help to needy.

    Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”

    So Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”

    Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered this God fearing nation, that there is none like it on the earth, with its upright men, who fears God and shuns evil?”

    So Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does this nation fear God for nothing? Have You not made a hedge around them, around this nation household, and around all that they have on every side? You have blessed the work of their hands, and their stronghold has increased in the land. But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that they have, and they will surely curse You to Your face!”

    And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that they have is in your power.”
    So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.

    Then the Lord said: “Who is this who darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Now prepare yourselves like the men; I will question you, and YOU SHALL ANSWER Me.

    “Would you indeed annul My judgment?
    Would you condemn Me that you may be justified?
    Have you an arm like God?
    Or can you thunder with a voice like His?
    Then adorn yourself with majesty and splendor,
    And array yourself with glory and beauty.
    Disperse the rage of your wrath;
    Look on everyone who is proud, and humble him.
    Look on everyone who is proud, and bring him low;
    Tread down the wicked in their place.
    Hide them in the dust together,
    Bind their faces in hidden darkness.
    Then I will also confess to you
    That your own right hand can save you.
    You have heard of Me by the hearing of the ear,
    therefore abhor yourselves, and repent in dust and ashes.

    (Based on the Job’s Chapter 1 & 39)

    “He has prepared His throne for judgment. 8 He shall judge the world in righteousness, And He shall administer judgment for the peoples in uprightness.” (Psalm 9:7-8)

    “Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? 6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. (James 4:4-6)

    “12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES, AGAINST POWERS, AGAINST THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS AGE, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.13 Therefore take up the WHOLE ARMOR of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with TRUTH, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the Gospel of PEACE; 16 above all, taking the shield of FAITH with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the HELMET of SALVATION, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the WORD of God.” (Ephesians 6:14)

    • FreedomFighter

      “12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES, AGAINST POWERS, AGAINST THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS AGE, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

      If you really think about these words, fear will grip your heart, fear not, we know how it all ends
      Laus DeoSemper FI

      • Deerinwater

        It seems that Fear ~ is all that you got to work with. ~ If a hammer is the only tool in your tool box, ~ all jobs resemble nails.

        Fear is paralyzing, it clouds the mind and locks down movement.

        You got to get passed the fear ~ before you can do anything.

        Few things predicated on blinding “fear” will ever work well for anyone.

        • FreedomFighter

          Next time your in the deep ocean and somebody yell “shark” and jumps up and points, feel free to call them a fear monger and start to splash around allot.
          Laus DeoSemper FI

          • native blood

            Nadzieja,

            Just curious, did you just adopt FreedomFighter’s sig,
            decided to reveal yourself to be a Marine Corp veteran, or are you and FF sharing the same network? At any rate, nice sig.

          • native blood

            Disregard Nadzieja, my browser compressed your message some how….anyway, it looks like the AHC web site isn’t the only one with glitches…sorry, disregard the above and pass on my apologies to FF as well.

          • Deerinwater

            I don’t go in the ocean ~ I know what is in there. ~ You won’t see mariners ~ swimming in the ocean.

            To dive and clear a 2″ line that fouled in the wheel. or the ship is not going anywhere ~ I hate doing that ! ~ it’s hard to do anyway without being parlayed ! You found my one fear!

          • NC

            Freedom. and when it out to be nice old Charlie the Tuna or just another conservative panic attack we well forgive you and your red face!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Lots of verbiage to say that you are afraid.

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        “But now thus says the LORD, He, Who created you, He Who formed you: ‘FEAR NOT, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, YOU ARE MINE.’ (Isaiah 43:1)

        “28 And DO NOT FEAR those who kill the body but CANNOT KILL the soul. But rather FEAR Him who is able to destroy BOTH soul and body in hell. – Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:28)

    • Deerinwater

      Horse feathers, ~ ~ too much Holy water for you!

      • native blood

        And too much fire water for you old friend.

        • Deerinwater

          not today ~ maybe later though ~

    • NC

      Alondra, I swore never to respond to your weird wild rants but when you describe early Americans as people who shunned evil it shows a great gap in your “larnin”. The treatment of the Native Americans as a government policy, the treatment by the bigoted citizens of the immigrants and our slave policy seems to me to be evidence of some pretty evident streaks of evil in our less that perfect fore fathers! Bible or no Bible!!

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        BIBLE, NC, BIBLE!!!
        No questions about.

        NC: “The treatment of the Native Americans as a government policy, the treatment by the bigoted citizens of the immigrants and our slave policy…”

        Who made those policies, NC?
        ~ Democrats.

        WHO supported SLAVERY?
        ~ Democrats.
        For the bill ABOLISHING SLAVERY: 99% of REPUBLICANS vote YES, 83% of DEMOCRATS vote NO

        Who were the members of the KKK?
        ~ Democrats.

        WHO supported the Segregation system?
        ~ Democrats.

        WHO are the biggest and spiteful RASISTS?
        ~ Democrats: Berry O’Homo, erik holder, al sharpton, jessie jackson, negro “diva” oprah, et al.

        NC, Please come back from the past to the present.
        And thank you for not yelling at me.

        P.S. NC, Please do not come to me with your demagoguery.
        http://www.constitution.org/col/amazing-grace-willie-nelson.mp3

  • Harold Olsen

    I read a couple of articles last week about people who managed to log onto the Obamacare website and get signed up for Obamacare — they thought. Instead, they found out that what they had actually signed up for was registering to vote as Democrats. The articles weren’t sure if the website just redirected them or if in signing up for Obamacare they were deliberately signing up to vote as Democrats. Anyway, they did not get signed up for Obamacare.

    • smilee

      FUNNY!! But the federal government registers nobody to
      vote, that is done by the states.

  • FreedomFighter

    “Obama gave a press conference in the White House Rose Garden this past Monday, to promise that things would get better. There were 13 smiling people lined up behind him, all of them said to be shining examples of how successful his healthcare plan could be.

    Guess what? Turns out that none of them had actually purchased health insurance through Obamacare. In fact, only three of them had even completed the application process.”
    A fake president, a fake healthcare bill, fake people at a fake conference faking the purchase…at least “O”Faker is consistent. Time for peaceful civil disobedience.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

  • FreedomFighter

    “Obama gave a press conference in the White House Rose Garden this past Monday, to promise that things would get better. There were 13 smiling people lined up behind him, all of them said to be shining examples of how successful his healthcare plan could be.

    Guess what? Turns out that none of them had actually purchased health insurance through Obamacare. In fact, only three of them had even completed the application process.”
    A fake president, a fake healthcare bill, fake people at a fake conference faking the purchase…at least “O”Faker is consistent. Time for peaceful civil disobedience.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Deerinwater

      Not fake at all, ~ you have only refused to accept them. ~ That doesn’t make them fake, ~ only ~ unpleasant for you. I see the problem, ~ it comes with “Superiority” ~ if you could manage to find yourself less superior, then you too might see it.

      • FreedomFighter

        If the bills title is Affordable Healthcare its a fake, Barry is a fake, the conference was a fake, the people were fake. The only thing real and honest about Barry and company is the pain they inflict on Americans.
        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

        • Deerinwater

          Very well, ~ have it your way ~ It’s all fake ! ~ Feel better?

  • WTS/JAY

    Healthcare.gov exposed as data-gathering honey pot to shamelessly harvest private consumer data and turn it over to the NSA…

    The pieces of the puzzle on Obamacare are finally coming together. Yesterday it was revealed during congressional testimony that the Healthcare.gov website contains a hidden disclaimer which reads, “You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transmitting or stored on this information system.”

    This is an open admission that the site intends to share your data with other government entities. It also means the entire website violates federal law because it does not comply with HIPAA regulations for medical privacy. Click here to watch the astonishing video testimony.

    But this isn’t the only evidence now emerging.

    It also turns out that an NSA-funded entity actually helped build Healthcare.gov! Kit Daniels has just published a groundbreaking story that links the CIA venture capital firm “In-Q-Tel” to the Healthcare.gov data collection technology provider known asSocrata.

    “Socrata will work with the CIA and other intelligence agencies to transform raw data into a format easily utilized and accessible to the intelligence community,” writes Daniels. “Healthcare.gov captures the personal data provided during the Obamacare enrollment process for this spy grid database.”

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042664_Healthcaregov_NSA_data_mining_fake_front-end.html#ixzz2iisfjQIu

  • WTS/JAY

    Healthcare.gov now deliberately displaying false pricing information to trick the public…

    In mid-October, Forbes’ Avik Roy, who has been writing regularly about the pitfalls and expected pitfalls of Obamacare, made a rather startling claim.

    “A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing,” he wrote. “Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. This, in turn, creates a massive traffic bottleneck, as the government verifies your information and decides whether or not you’re eligible for subsidies. HHS bureaucrats knew this would make the website run more slowly. But they were more afraid that letting people see the underlying cost of Obamacare’s insurance plans would scare people away.”

    In other words, he was saying that the Healthcare.gov website was designed to hide the true cost of insurance plans.

    Roy’s story got some traction, but it largely went unnoticed. Now, however, thanks to information surprisingly uncovered by CBS News, it appears that Roy’s story was prophetic:

    CBS News has uncovered a serious pricing problem with HealthCare.gov. It stems from the Obama administration’s efforts to improve its health care website. A new online feature can dramatically underestimate the cost of insurance.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042663_Healthcaregov_false_pricing_Obamacare_exchange.html#ixzz2iit6wiyT

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama administration orders Blue Cross to keep Obamacare enrollment numbers secret…

    In the past week, there has been a smattering of reports that some Americans – finally – have managed to actually sign up for healthcare insurance using the government’s Obamacare exchange (Healthcare.gov). But what is equally clear by now is that the Obama administration, for some reason, has been very quiet about the actualnumber of people who have signed up.

    The only explanation for that is this: the numbers must be pitifully low.

    Already, most Americans know the roll-out of the Obamacare online exchange was a disaster. It was – and remains – prone to glitches, hang-ups and unacceptable delays, and that’s if you can make any progress on the site at all.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042662_Obama_administration_Obamacare_enrollment_Blue_Cross.html#ixzz2iitbiHOC

  • hardh8

    The only problem with your theory of the democrats losing to senate is……they can always count on the idiot republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. IF the scumbag republicans grant amnesty to the illegal alien racist la raza nazi invading border criminals. Stick a fork in them because they’re done.

    • Vigilant

      From an e-mail I received:
      I just received my tax return for 2012 back from the IRS. It puzzles me!!!

      They are questioning how many dependents I claimed.

      I guess it was because of my response to the question: “List all
      dependents?”

      I replied: 12 million illegal immigrants; 3 million crack heads; 47 million
      unemployed people on food stamps, 2 million people in over 243
      prisons;

      Half of Mexico ; and 535 persons in the U.S. House and Senate.”

      1 useless President.

      Evidently, this was NOT an acceptable answer.

      I KEEP ASKING MYSELF, WHO DID I MISS?

      • Deerinwater

        Ha ha! ~ good one Vigilant

        You forget, oil barons, and wall street banker robber barons. Now , why would you do that?

        Your sense of humor is wasted on the IRS, I fear.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So why aren’t you complaining about the government regulatory agencies which own the “oil baron, and wall street banker robber barons”?

          • Deerinwater

            I think that you have the tail wagging the dog Batki.

          • Karolyn

            I think it’s the other way around.

      • Bill

        Hi Vig,
        That is your best one yet. I am still laughing

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        You missed Muslim Brotherhood, Al-Qaeda and the “first” dog BO.

  • peter

    Guess what? There is nothing anyone can do about it! The ‘Master’ has spoken. Just shut up and listen to him and all will be well. Did he ever promise you anything that he has not delivered? The guy is untouchable, immortal and beyond reproach. You had better believe that or else.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Pray for the leader’s heart to be changed by the Lamb of God Who came into the world to save the world from sin.

    • NC

      4LIFE AND FREEDOM, if the omnipotent all powerful God wants the “leader’s heart ” to change can he/she not do it with the snap of a finger? If he/she is satisfied with the “leader’s heart” will it not continue regardless of what mortal men wish for? What does ALL POWERFUL mean to a believer? Does It mean the same to ALL believers? Does your faith make it right even when is differs from the beliefs of other BELIEVERS??

      • FreedomFighter

        GOD gave man Freewill
        You have the option of being an godless idiot, evil, or to worship other lesser gods.
        Laus DeoSemper FI

        • nc

          Fighter of freedom, I have no argument with man having free will! As a playwrite once said that mans ability to reason is the only thing that makes him superior to animals! Some animals are stronger, faster or even breed better than man but only man can solve the big problems! And he has gotten better at it as he has evolved through the years!

          • Vis Fac

            What problems have you solved? I know plenty of problems that people like you have created yet know of none that have been solved.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Force, I’m not sitting back! I’m here trying to get people to see that the fear, anger and hatred that flourishes here
            is not the answer to our problems! It only compounds the problems!
            I don’t fear the wolf! The wolf has never arrested me for political reasons and put me in FEMA Camps! The wolf has never come to my door to harass me and my family or to confiscate my weapons! The wolf has never taxed me into poverty!! The wolf has never kept me from voting! The wolf has scared my enemies away from my shores and run their a$$es to ground when the “wolf” went looking for them!!
            The wolf does not have to be your enemy! You choose to make it your enemy! The wolf has a job to do! Just like you! I’m betting the wolf ain’t gonna let you run it’s job!
            Do you fear the wolf? Remember the wolf was here before you!!

          • Vis Fac

            NUT CASE I do fear the wolf and I am doing everything I can to fight it you are feeding it

            You are a socialistic PAWN you only know what you are told you have no capacity for rational thought because you have been programmed to listen to your handlers.

            If you are still able to recognize and digest facts I suggest you go here and take a good look at what has been done to you.

            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            Agenda Grinding America Down
            You will then realize how you have been used!!! (Maybe)

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper Fi

        • janna

          why in “God”name can we not be plain patriotic atheist
          why are there only two options
          A Godless Idiot
          B Pious fairy tale believers

          • Vis Fac

            You forgot one that describes you to a tee AMORAL MORON !!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So you have nothing to offer but just to spew nonsense.
        If you don’t want to believe what 4lifeandfreedom wrote, no one is forcing you. But 4lifeand freedom can say what he believes.
        I notice you want to force people not to believe because you don’t. So the simple fact is you are a bullying thug.

        • NC

          batik, where did I bully anyone? ! did not say that 4life had no right to believe what he says? Where did I say he should have no right to say it! WHAT FORCE DID I USE OR THREATEN OR EVEN SUGGEST? YOU CONSERVATIVES ARE THE MOST DEFENSIVE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD! IF WE QUESTION YOU WE HATE YOU! if WE DIFFER FROM YOU WE HATE YOU! IF WE HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OF WHAT THE cONSTITUTION MEANS WE HATE THE CONSTITUTION! HOW FREAKING JUVENILE IS THAT??
          HEY, WE ARE LIBERALS! YOU CAN THINK WHAT YOU WANT AND SAY WHAT YOU WANT AND BE AS STUPID AS YOU WANT!! THIS IS AMERICA!!
          WE LOVE IT WHEN THE CONSERVATIVES SAY AND DO STUPID THINGS! IT MAKES OUR POLLS GO UP! SEE THE “SHUTDOWN”!

        • Vis Fac

          NUT CASE is an AMORAL MORON he is here to cause descent as Satan does here on earth. Ignore what he says and believe the opposite because he’s given his soul to Satan.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • Vis Fac

        NUT CASE Satanists like you have no idea what you are talking about. The Lord gives us free reign to chose the path we wish to walk he does not interfere. He has also warned us to chose the correct path ot face his wrath.

        You have apparently chosen your path. I hope you can come to terms with your decision.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • NC

          Freedom, you say to make a difference you must be patriotic and have a willingness to back it up! I take it that you consider your self to have those ” qualities”! I take it also that you feel liberals do not have those qualities!
          What do you think is the most ” truly patriotic” thing you can do at present for YOUR country and what are you willing to do to back it up! You put this in every message so I assume you are serious about it!!
          SEMPER FI I ,TOO, AM A MARINE!! PROBABLY BEFORE YOU WERE BORN!!

          • Vis Fac

            Well son that would make you more than 100 years old and I sincerely doubt you are.

            For one being a patriot is returning to our roots embracing God as our forefathers had done and embracing our freedom.

            It is also being a productive member of society rather than leeching off the government

            Patriotism is promoting individual responsibility so as not to be a drain on society and finally patriotism is rejecting socialist/communist manifesto the very essence of liberalism.

            From what I’ve seen of liberals and what they have done to restrict freedom I could write a book. I merely direct you to here.

            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            Agenda Grinding America Down

            If you aren’t too programmed by the socialist elite it will open your eyes if not you are lost and part of the problem!!!

            You have been used as a pawn by the socialist elite you believe under socialism you will receive a piece of the pie. Sadly under socialism someone is going to get something but that someone won’t be you!!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper Fi

    • janna

      there is nothing wrong with “Sin”
      but every thing wrong with Crime
      sure hope yall can tell the difference

      • Vis Fac

        Spoken like a true liberal NUT CASE all the depravity immorality and indifference in one posting. FYI nut case SIN and CRIME are the same. Since you embrace Satan you have sealed your doom as l th others who have done likewise.

        The Bible prophesizes that people like you will perish and those who embrace the Lord will survive and prosper. I don’t feel sorry for what awaits you for the choice was yours remember that!!

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • Tired of Wood

    Hey Chip Wood stop your bellyaching your beginning to sound like a woman, always complaining, just like Ann Coulter.

    • Eric

      Hey Tired, Have you signed up? Are you a Marxist too? This whole administration is about power and system collapse, just like Saul Alinski wrote, Cloward & Piven, etc. I believe they do not want Obamacare to work so they can create another “crisis” and push for their one-payor system. After all, Hitler and Stalin took over health care first. It’s a major step toward total government control. Personally, I want small government and maximum freedom. This requires individual responsibility, something that seems in short supply today. Instead of relying on government, how about actually reading the Constitution, some Federalist papers, and some of the letters of Jefferson, Adams, etc. Our Founders knew how men and government worked. That’s why the federal government would never exist in the form it is today if they were here.
      If you like big government, live in a state that has it. That is where the real experimentation should be anyway. If you don’t like a state, you can try to change it or move to one you like. But when the feds tromp on you, there is nowhere to go as it is nationwide. Personally, I am tired of people like you telling people like me what to do and how to live. This is my life, butt out.

      • NC

        Eric, I have read almost all of the Constitution! I have read some of the writings relative to the Constitution before it was drafted and after and its adoption! It was required reading for a Constitutional Law course that I took that was taught by a professor who practiced for years before the US Supreme Court and was highly regarded in the field!
        When you try something totally new to the status quo that is progressive and that is exactly what the “founding fathers” did! They drew up a plan for a form of government like no other in the history of man!! It has worked because we have had leaders who were every bit as intelligent as the founding fathers! They were talented men but they didn’t walk on water NOR did they always agree on what they considered Constitutional !But they compromised on a “plan”!!
        IF YOU REALLY READ THEIR “PAPERS” YOU WILL FIND THEY HAD A WIDE RANGE OF OPINIONS OF WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SHOULD DO AND WHAT IT SAID!!
        IT IS NOT AS CLEAR AS YOU CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO THINK IT IS OR WHAT MR. LIVINGSTON OR HANNITY TELLS YOU IT MEANS!

        • smilee

          Very true, they would know that if they read it with out their blinders on!

          • Vis Fac

            You’re funny SMELLY looking that is When are you going to answer my questions SMELLY When are you going to cease being a FRAUD and a COWARD? When are you going to put up an iota of token resistance to defend yourself?

            Never because there is no defense for being who and what you are.

            I OWN you SMELLY

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • speedle24

          Yes they had a “wide range of opinions” and then they combined this wide range of opinions into the most perfect document they could produce. Whether you have read the Consititution or not has nothing to do with the issue. What matters is whether or not you believe in the basic tenets of the Constitiution. The whole idea is to have a basis of society that does not change with breezy fads or political ideology. It is NOT a “living, breathing, document”. If it were that would be little reason for having it. The law would be about whomever is currently in charge, as it was in the middle ages.
          There is little if any “confusion” about the interpretation of the basic Constitution. Depending upon the politics of the SCOTUS at any given time the interpretations are painfully twisted, but the basis for the Constitiution is plain for all to see. The document does not attempt to define everything in law or the details of enactments. What it does do is lay the basic framework that is mandatory to retain our way of life, and to prevent governmental tyranny, and that is why the progressives have such a problem with it. Left wingers think their ideas are so “enlightened” and “progressive” that they can’t be bothered with stodgy old tenets from a document written over 200 years ago. It is the worst kind of narcissism

          • NC

            sPEEDLE; have you ever visited a Legal Law Library and studied the volumes and volumes OF THE US SUPREME COURT REPORTS containing hundreds maybe thousands of cases where the Courts have had to deal with the CONFUSION US citizens have had over what the Constitution “means”! IT HAS BEEN WAY MORE THAN “JUST A LITTLE IF ANY CONFUSION” THAT THE PARTIES HAVE DISAGREED ABOUT!
            MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT BY PEOPLE ONLY TO BE TOLD BY THE COURT THAT THEIR INTERPRETATION WERE WRONG!
            I LOVE THE CONSTITUTION AND THE IDEA OF HAVING A HIGH COURT INTERPRET IT RATHER THAN FIGHTING OUT THE DIFFERENCES IN THE STREETS! EVEN WHEN THEY ARE “WRONG” THE SYSTEM IS STILL RIGHT! THAT IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE UNDER OTHER SYSTEMS!!

          • speedle24

            What’s your point? My issue is with the fact that Obama does not “like” the Constitution, and is trying every way to circumvent it. He doesn’t believe in Separation of Powers which is a key tenet of the Constitution. He has said as much with his comments and threats to take “executive action” to get things done he wants.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear NC,

          You write: “I have read almost all of the Constitution!” At 4,400 words, that’s quite a feat. How long has that taken you?

          You write: “I have read some of the writings relative to the Constitution before it was drafted and after and its adoption!” Another magnificent feat. You are truly a scholar.

          You write: ” It was required reading for a Constitutional Law course that I took that was taught by a professor who practiced for years before the US Supreme Court and was highly regarded in the field!” If you took a “Constitutional Law Course” without reading the entire document, is it safe to assume you failed the course? Did you at least read the CliffsNotes?

          You write: “IT IS NOT AS CLEAR AS YOU CONSERVATIVES SEEM TO THINK IT…” First, your use of all caps does not render your nonsense any more believable. Second, it would probably be more clear if you had read the entire document. It only takes a few minutes.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Vis Fac

            Bob

            NUT CASE is a prevaricator. Plain and simple in a class with SMELLY we try and ignore him as much as possible and NC being a liberal shill I would think the Liberals should demand their money back for they are’t getting enough bang out of their buck.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • KG

            It doesn’t take long to read the Bible either, and how many different interpretations do we have of THAT document???

            The problem that ‘conservatives’ have when they read and interpret the Constitution is that they believe that their political outlook is exactly the same as James Madison and Thomas Jefferson. What passes for ‘conservative-ism’ today would be seen as “Royalist Torries’ then.

        • Eric

          NC, And none of the Founders wanted to be controlled by a massive government. Liberty is not easy, but less liberty means maximum freedom. It requires individual responsibility and work. I’m glad you have had a Constitutional Law course. Me too, and 33 years of being a lawyer. Guess you and I disagree. By the way, who taught you in Con Law? I would love to have a conversation with him/her. What we have now is completely contra the Founders. They did insert a way to correct things in the Constitution, but that requires an intelligent public, a public that knows the Constitution. This is in short supply today. Were there differing opinions at the Constitutional Convention? You bet. A lot of our Constitution came about from compromise. But the problem with people like you is that you take away my individual liberty by telling me what I must or must not do in my life with your programs that embrace your idea of what is “fair”, not Constitutional. That is not the federal government’s job, never has been. Add this to the fact that big government (whether from dems or repubs) is ruining this country, financially and by removing our individual freedoms, and you have a recipe for disaster. Thanks a lot.

      • Bill

        Right on!!! Eric
        Very well said

    • ttasker

      how tired can you be? you manage to keep coming back to a website that works.

    • vietnamvet1971

      Tired of Liberal Know it All’s coming in here and taking a Dump of their BS / Crap/ Poo-Poo and stinking it up, please wipe it OFF your face and Leave.

      • Deerinwater

        Well, ~ personal attacks are unwelcome, regardless of who delivers them my friend.

        Worthy Opposition , the right to descent ~ and the separation of powers is what our government depends on for rudder control and direction.

        The only personal attacks that are remotely acceptable are reciplicated fire.~ which you are known to solicit off and on yourself.

        Words don’t stink, ~ but the imagery that you provided certainly can.

        • vietnamvet1971

          BALDERDASH as Usual… you are so intelligent. I am not your friend.

          • Deerinwater

            I know that, ~ you are not even your friend. ~so how could you possible be anyone’s friend ~ but that’s okay.

            Your rewards are just for the company that you keep.

            It’s amazing how well things work out ~ on their own without outside interference.

            Just try not to stink up the place while this happens.

            Love and friendship can exist without being reciprocated by the way. True friendship has never been predicated on what someone might be able to offer you.

            So you are my friend and there is little that you can do about it `~ so get use to it.

          • Vis Fac

            Aren’t we being a tad hypocritical?

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Deerinwater

            LOL! no! not at all. ~ Good Will, is good will wherever it might come from. ~ We should do things because they are the right and fair things to do and not for rewards or praise. The reward is found in the act. You might consider it an investment in character and your future.

            There are many ways to promote and display patriotic beliefs and intentions. ~ The ability to set still and witness descent or to honor you country with your committed service are but two. But to do patriotic things when no one is looking and no one will ever know that you did so ~ is probably the most genuine and most valued of all patriotic acts.

            There will never come the day, when all things are made “right”, that is not the nature of man or nature. ~ There will always be struggle and strife Recon. ~ Perfection is not ours to have. ~ we aspire to make perfect.

          • Vis Fac

            Deer Very goo post!!!

            Oh how true. This is what I’ve striven to do for a very long time. Most of you know I spend a lot of time assisting our veterans I volunteer at various veterans hospitals and homes as well as the Wounded Warrior Project what people don’t know and because I don’t want them to is that as I have been fortunate enough to acquire quite a nice nest egg I endow several of these facilities with vehicles and comfort items all anonymously It;’s like watching a child open a birthday present from a stranger I get more out of doing this than if I were to treat everyone to a dinner (I’ve done that as well). God Has blessed me and I feel the need to share my blessings I am not alone as I am sure most people here would do likewise.

            If America’s economy crashes America’s military will be decimated when that happens the rest of the free world will cease to exist

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            No loss there!

          • Vis Fac

            Losing you SMELLY would be a tragedy. If that were to happen we’d lose our entertainment.

            BTW when did you say you were going to answer my questions?

            We all cannot help but notice you never respond to my accusations of you being a FRAUD and a COWARD. We all know this to be true but at least put up some token resistance .

            SMELLY I OWN you but I won’t claim exclusive rights
            I’ll share with anyone else who wants a piece of you.

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

      • Vis Fac

        I find them entertaining in an odd sort of way for if they didn’t reveal how inane they are we wouldn’t have anyone to make fun of!!!

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • FreedomFighter
      • Vis Fac

        Unfortunately due to ODUMBOCARE hospitals are loosing staff at alarming rates Physicians are retiring and or changing careers because people will die. Apparently Liberals aren’t satisfied by murdering 1.3 million babies each year they are after the living as well ODUMBOCARE will kill more people than the Nazis did in WWII

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Bill

      Tired,
      You are welcome to not read him if he offends you so much. It sounds like you are the one complaining.

      • Vis Fac

        And I am welcome to tell him off too. I refuse to tolerate those who are liars amoral unethical thieves and idiots Pretty much any liberal sheeple.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why are you on this site? Who forced you to read the article? Who forced you to make a comment? You see, if you had kept quiet we wouldn’t have known that there is one more stupid out there.

      • rwm44

        Nad probably the same stupid just using another name

      • Vis Fac

        This CLOWN is a liberal shill sent to bomb this thread. The DUMBOCRITES pay people like this to roil the waters. If I were they (DUMBOCRITES) I would demand my money back because they aren’t getting enough bang for their buck.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Nadzieja Batki,

        See my response to Force Recon about “Tired of Wood.”

        Best wishes,
        Bob

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      You mean Just like the Kenyan Fraud O’Homobama.

      • smilee

        Chip always call it on the losing side Obama has always called it on the winnning side,remember his Romney landslide, just one of many examples. Serious people do not take him to serioulsy.

        • speedle24

          Landslide???? Which election did you observe?

          • smilee

            Romney was wood’s prediction, but he did not even win, no one said the actual election was a landslide.

          • speedle24

            I stand corrected. I misinterpreted your comment.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear smilee,

            You write: “Romney was wood’s prediction,” You are mistaken.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Karolyn

            It was Root.

          • Vis Fac

            speedle Arguing with a moron accomplishes only one thing doing so brings you down to their level then they vanquish you by their experience.

            As I OWN SMELLY I can say what I want to it because SMELLY does not respond to direct questioning SMELLY is a FRAUD and a COWARD

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • rwm44

          slimee romney would of won if there was no voter fraud . how come certain districts had over 100%turnout all for obozo. even small fraud in select areas pushed your boy over the top

          • smilee

            Not even close even when you subtract out all of the fraud votes from Obama vote totals and if you gave all of them all to Romney, Obama still wins by a significant margin.. He won fair and square. Your lies are just that, lies.

        • Vis Fac

          SMELLY always the LOSER

          When are you going to answer my questions I asked you last week? Too much a COWARD to respond knowing you have nothing to support your agenda but EMPTY words??

          You are the poster child for all liberals and you want us to take you seriously???

          Not on a bet. SMELLY because you are a FRAUD and a COWARD I OWN you.

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear smilee,

          You write: “Chip always call it on the losing side Obama has always called it on the winnning (sic) side,remember his Romney landslide, just one of many examples.” As best I can make out from this collection of sentence fragments thrown together in no particular order, you are stating that Chip Wood predicted a Romney landslide. Chip did not at any time predicted a Romney win or “landslide” on Personal Liberty.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • smilee

            I remember someone here did and I thought it was Chip if it was someone other than Chip my apologies.

      • Vis Fac

        Further contempt of the ODUMBO towards our military

        http://shine.yahoo.com/fashion/proposed-marines-uniform-change-derided-8220-girly-8221-191000277.html

        (SIC) Possible New Marines Uniform Dismissed as too ‘Girly’

        Crank up the defibrillator: The New York Post is having a coronary over what it says is “Obama’s plan” to sissify the United States Marines. “A change to the Marine Corps’ uniform hats could take the hard-nosed Leathernecks from the Halls of Montezuma to the shops of Christopher Street,” gasps the tabloid in what it calls an “exclusive” article headlined “Obama wants marines to wear ‘girly’ hats.” Christopher Street is a snarky reference to the historical and symbolic center of gay life in New York City.

        I doubt the Commandant of the Marine Corps would stand for such egregious demeaning of the Marine Corps

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      I’m tired of moronic liberals like you who don’t know the difference between $hit and Shinola pretending you know everything yet feel compelled to malign others because you have nothing tangible to contribute.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Force Recon,

        “Tired of Wood” either signs in under multiple names or is one of as many as a dozen trolls who come here from Thomas Jefferson University or its medical center in order to spout Obama/DNC propaganda and attempt to disrupt the conversation. Pay him or her or them no mind. Unfortunately for Mr. Jefferson, I’m sure this nonsensical claptrap from a university that bears his name causes his bones to flip and flop unmercifully.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Vis Fac

          Dear Bob:

          Yeah we know but it fills a need to be amused by refuting his obvious left wing rhetoric and more fun telling him what we think!

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Motov

      Typical liberal tactic, name calling. I wonder how you will feel when you get bit on the butt from ACA. Or when you discover Obozo will dispose of you after your usefulness is spent.

    • Don 2

      Isn’t it great the way Ann beats up liberals?

  • placidly1

    Can someone please explain why would any republican, libertarian or anyone outside democrats be so distrout about this disastrous website roll-out?
    Why are they conducting investigations & hearings about whose fault it is?

    Why not let Democrats own this disaster, and hang themselves trying to fix, postpone, or repeal some parts or all of it?

  • Vigilant

    “Even Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) has said he’ll offer legislation to delay the implementation of Obamacare for a year.”

    Looks like the Republicans are poised to shoot themselves in the foot again.

    Are they so obtuse as to not see that this software debacle will ultimately help, rather than hurt, the Democrats? If Obama can delay its implementation, or unconstitutionally exempt individuals now, it will take off the table a potentially catastrophic defeat for the Dems in 2014.

    The most effective way to disclose the financial and economic evils of Obamacare is to push for its full implementation at the earliest possible date.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So the nation is to be given the “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” ultimatum.
      The nation’s sheep have been corralled in the pen and the gate is shut, now the culling begins.

      • jd

        I just wear the clothing.

      • Vis Fac

        America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

        “When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When
        the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” Thomas
        Jefferson

        The purpose of the Right to Bear Arms is to protect the People from tyranny in Government.” Thomas Jefferson

        “I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where
        the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.” -WILLIAM RICE BURROUGHS

        “The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.” -George Washington

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • TML

          America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

          Says the man who made war on the States while refusing to recognize secession which resulted in the death of 600,000 American lives…. etc., etc. etc. Tell it like it is, Honest Abe.

          • Vis Fac

            Those who consistently place blame on others lose all credibility when they do. You are shallow superficial and one dimensional and Liberals like you are used as pawns to achieve an agenda for someone else. You think you are going to get a piece of the pie but you aren’t. With socialism “Somebody is going to get a piece of the pie but it won’t be you!

            If America’s economy crashes America’s military will be decimated when that happens the rest of the free world will cease to exist

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TML

            Your comment is unintelligible, Force Neocon.
            I am certainly no shallow, superficial, one dimensional socialist. I don’t know how you get all that… All I did is mention a fact about Lincoln and you and Vig freak out like the Obama nut jobs. Get a grip.

          • Vis Fac

            Unintelligible to one who has been dumbed down as you Clowns like you are not part of the solution but in reality the problem!!!
            To fully understand where I am coming from go here
            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            Agenda Grinding America Down

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper Fi

          • TML

            I’m the dumbed down clown? lol

            You said, “Those who consistently place blame on others lose all credibility when they do.”… and then proceeded to blame and wrongfully attack and insult me, for what? LOL

          • Vis Fac

            I call em as I see em If you cannot handle the truth then that’s YOUR problem not mine !!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper Fi

          • TML

            You have no clue what you are talking about. Go back to your basement troll

          • Vis Fac

            Yeah this is the typical reply from the undereducated Socialist pawns known as liberals The trouble with you liberals is you know so much that isn’t so. Yet you believe you do because your handlers tell you what to say and you believe every word of it.

            Pity the fools known as liberals they are fooled into thinking they will receive a piece of the pie. Under socialism someone will get something alright but that someone won’t be you!! If you want to know how you’ve been used and manipulated I suggest a peek at this

            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            Agenda Grinding America Down

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper Fi

          • TML

            It’s a typical reply to someone who started throwing ad hominem around without even explaining their objection, Force NeoCon. Nothing I said about Lincoln was incorrect. I can understand that you might have a reverence for Lincoln (nothing wrong with that) but that’s no reason to spout your uneducated nonsense just because I point out his contradictions.

            Btw, the video you posted takes the hard line stance, using circular logic, that if you aren’t a conservative Republican Christian, then you are a communist, communist sympathizer, or tool used by communists to further their grand conspiracy theory. There is some fact in the video – using the historic fears prevalent during the Cold War – but then stretches it into apocalyptic nuances even claiming that evolution science, women’s rights movement, civil rights movement, and even the slogan “make love not war” were all communist constructions designed to tear apart the moral fabric of America. It was fun to watch, but amounts to no more than a pseudo-documentary of faith-based political conspiracy theory.

          • Vis Fac

            If the shoe fits pal I suggest you wear it if not prove otherwise As I said your socialist handlers have promised you a piece of the pie. With socialism someone is going to get something but sadly that someone won’t be you!!!

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TML

            “If the shoe fits pal I suggest you wear it if not prove otherwise”

            There’s a real gem of logic. Anyone ever tell you the burden of proof falls upon those making the claim?

            You’re obviously incapable of rational thought, so have a nice day, nut job.

          • Vis Fac

            I’ve proven my point you refuse to acknowledge it. You can dwell in your little sphere of ignorance all you wish but the truth remains constant. I’ve read most of what you post and unfortunately you have noting to support what you say and neither can any liberal for that matter.
            You Are led to believe that you are going to have a piece of the wealth stolen from others but in fact you are being used ans means to an end. As I said with socialism someone ids going to get something and that someone is NOT going to be YOU !!!! I you believe you will I wouldn’t hold my breath
            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Vis Fac

            You need to take a real hard look at what this link leads to You will find out just how easy it is to use you.

            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            Agenda Grinding America Down

          • Vigilant

            Said the man who was fairly elected twice (the second time by a larger margin) and who was supported in his action to preserve the Union by a majority of Americans, including many in the southern states.

            Tell I like it really is, TML, not what DiLorenzo, Woods and other neoconfederates would have you believe.

          • TML

            I did tell it like it is, Vig…. Which has nothing to do with DiLorenzo, Woods, or neoconfederates. It’s simple logic that can be deciphered by any objective mind through study of history.
            And considering that both idiots, Obama and Bush Jr., were elected twice, I’m not sure the fact that Lincoln was means very much. If you support preserving the Union by the barrel of a gun, citing a majority of Americans wanted that, then you are supporting the vain tyranny of Democracy, Vig… not a Republic.

            “The Union …won’t be dissolved. We don’t want to dissolve it, and if you attempt it, we won’t let you. With the purse and sword, the army and the navy and the treasury in our hands and at our command you couldn’t do it.” – Lincoln

          • Vigilant

            We’ve covered this ground before, TML, and I’m not going to reopen the wounds again. Our minds are set based on our own researches. We’ve concluded different things from it, and that’s all that can be reasonably asserted at this time.

          • TML

            Fair enough. Always a pleasure talkin with you Vig

    • rwm44

      thats what ive been saying let in go and fail on its own ,and like a sinking ship it will take all dems with it

    • JeffH

      Vigilant says “Looks like the Republicans are poised to shoot themselves in the foot again.”

      Why would we expect anything different from them?

      To a point I agree, let the law destroy itself…but I think we can agree that no one in government, with just a few exceptions, has the gonads to force a repeal of the law as that would go against the establishment and could be very unhealthy.

    • TML

      After trying to defund and even repeal it, to now push for its implementation (just because Obama is now trying to delay it, and the reasons that you cite), would be shooting one’s self in the foot through a complete departure of principle and even hypocrisy.

      Stay the course, and oppose it at every turn.

      • Vigilant

        With a Dem majority in the Senate, it’s tilting at windmills.

        Moreover, Obama has unconstitutionally delayed portions of it already. That’s what the Republicans need to be addressing if they had any gonads.

        Offering legislation to delay the implementation of Obamacare for a year merely condones the violation of law by the president.

        • TML

          Honestly, I don’t give a sh*t what party is the majority or minority as long as they have a brain, or their arguments at least make sense under scrutiny.

          The simple answer to your last sentence; don’t condone the violation of Executive ‘privilege’. Offer nothing. Healthcare is a State issue in accordance with the Constitution.

          • Vigilant

            Honestly, I care very much, as should most Americans, what party is the majority. If Repubs were in the majority in the Senate, we’d need not be talking about Obamacare now. If the Dems were in majority in the House, we’d have a dangerous one party government of socialists.

            Your simple answer (“don’t condone the violation of Executive ‘privilege’) is an answer that has not worked, nor will ever be likely to work. The toothpaste has been out of the tube for some time now, and Congress has failed to check the excesses..

            As for “Healthcare is a state issue,” I agree, but SCOTUS killed that horse, and it’s no use beating it further.

            And it’s illogical to talk about “a complete departure of principle” when delaying the implementation of parts of Obamacare by the president is a violation of the Constitution itself. Congress passed the bill and it was signed into law with specific milestone dates. Selective enforcement of parts of the law is not allowed under the Constitution. Here’s where your “simple answer” of not condoning executive privilege is no where to be found.

          • TML

            Considering people like McCain, and other Repubs that go along to get along, and those who care more about their party than they do the people they represent, I’d say partisan politics is a farce. We wouldn’t be talking about Obamacare, this is true; we’d be talking about RomneyCare.

            You said, “Offering legislation to delay the implementation of Obamacare for a year merely condones the violation of law by the president.”, and so I said, don’t offer any legislation that would condone that violation… And you now say that “won’t work”? You aren’t making much sense this morning Vig.

            You initially said, “The most effective way to disclose the financial and economic evils of Obamacare is to push for its full implementation at the earliest possible date.”

            I can agree insomuchas, let it sink or swim on it’s own (I’m confident it will sink) but to now push for it’s implimentation after the long fiasco of resisting it? Nay, that’s not standing on principle. That’s merely playing politics, and that’s how the Repubs keep shooting themselves in the foot.

            And I’m sorry, but I do not agree that SCOTUS is the final word on constitutionality. When the Executive, Congress, and Judicial work against the states and the people, there’s only one option left.

            “…in cases of an abuse of the delegated powers, the members of the General Government, being chosen by the people, a change by the people would be the constitutional remedy; but, where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy: that every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact, (casus non foederis,) to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits: that without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them…”

          • Vigilant

            “You said, ‘Offering legislation to delay the implementation of Obamacare for a year merely condones the violation of law by the president.’, and so I said, don’t offer any legislation that would condone that violation… And you now say that “won’t work”? You aren’t making much sense this morning Vig.”

            Perhaps I’ve not been clear. The only thing I said “that has not worked, nor will ever be likely to work” was to act against the violation of executive ‘privilege.’ The feckless Congress has shown again and again their unwillingness to check these abuse of executive power.

            If legislation were to be offered regarding exemptions and postponements, it would of Constitutional necessity be required for ALL exemptions which Obama has unconstitutionally effected, not just the personal exemption. My point was that to offer up a bill exempting individuals only would entail Congress’ tacit acceptance of Obama’s illegal exemptions in other areas.

            What we see now is a purely propagandistic move by the Dems to appear “compassionate” for individuals by hijacking the very Republican bill that Reid and Co, summarily rejected earlier during the CR debates.

            As for Jefferson’s words on nullification, I agree with the rights of the states to nullify what they perceive as unconstitutional measures by the federal government, and I would hope that the current number of them grows, but I’m not holding my breath.

          • TML

            “The only thing I said “that has not worked, nor will ever be likely to work” was to act against the violation of executive ‘privilege.’ The feckless Congress has shown again and again their unwillingness to check
            these abuse of executive power.”

            I’m hoping that elections will produce more people like Cruz who are very willing to check the abuses of executive power… both in Congress and the State legislatures.

            I am against offering legislation that would tacitly accept Obama’s illegal action on this matter (which is why I say offer nothing in that regard). But the idea that we are ‘damned if we do’ continue to oppose Obamacare, and ‘damned if we don’t’ continue to oppose it – just because of Obama’s illegal actions regarding a law which is itself regarded as unconstitutional on many levels – is unacceptable. The propagandist pill you speak of shouldn’t be swallowed.

  • KennyLLC

    The online S.S. Disability application is a joke too.
    You end up having to call an individual and wait on hold for a very long time in order to finish the form. Then you are turned down anyway, no matter how badly injured and broke you are.

    • smilee

      Lawyers by law cannot charge you anything except if you win and then they get 20% of your backpay, if you win you get backpay to your date of disability. SS often turns you down in hopes you do not do this and if you do not then they do not have to pay your claim.. That is why in recent years so many lawyers are takng these cases as it has become high voulume.so profitable for them.

      • Vis Fac

        SMELLY again you demonstrate how STOOPID you are. Lawyers have clients sign a retainer agreement some declare that fees are due when rendered others are on a contingency. It is up to the client weather they want such an arrangement.

        SO now to the next order of business. When are you going to answer my questions I posed to you last week??

        Since you refuse to respond to any of my challenges I know for sure you are indeed a FRAUD and a COWARD and anything you say carries ZERO credence.

        As a result SMELLY I OWN YOU !!!!!!!!!!!

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • smilee

          Check it out, oh, ignorant one and you will find out that what I said is true. The SS disability legal fees are set by law!! 20% of your backpay or nothing

          • Vis Fac

            Tell me about it. Fees are set yes but representation issues are another story. The law does not prohibit or limit consultation or retaining fees it’s a buyer beware proposition I know several attorneys who will tell you this is fact.

            The trouble with you liberals is that you know so much that isn’t true!!

            NOW when are you going to answer my questions SMELLY? You are a FRAUD and a COWARD

            To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

            You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            I have discussed this with attornies and they will tell you it is as I said it is. There s no retaining fees it is not allowed by law in SS disability cases. You probably tell this to your employees to.

          • Vis Fac

            You expect me to believe YOU a LIAR a FRAUD and a COWARD who has yet to answer my questions? You need to watch this here you will discover the truth behind the liberal agenda you don’t need to read anything just watch.
            http://vimeo.com/63749370
            This is your last chance I hope you take it.

            With socialism “Somebody is going to get something but it
            won’t be you”!!

      • KennyLLC

        The y are stupid to pay a lawyer on top of the claim. Since they audit everyone yearly anyway, they would be better off to help the injured in their first year when he needs it most than to unconscienably fight him tooth and nail. Problem is, racial preference has put many complainers and do nothing on disability as another welfare program while ignoring the truly sick and injured, putting them out of their homes, their marriages, and their minds until they are homeless and helpless.
        You are more likely to recieve disability for “behavioral health” issues and perpetual “drug “dependency”” than if you are crtically injured.
        The Musim Brotherhood couldn’t destroy this country and cause pain to hurting Americans more than the black race in America. I guess that is the reason why they never oppose them, rather they recruit them.

        • smilee

          Sounds like you need a lawyer to me, without one your chances of success are nil!

          • KennyLLC

            I tried with one of those “disability is all we do” lawyers, but he knew that since I’m a self-employed WMConst’Worker I wouldn’t stand a chance.
            So I’m going it alone and insulting their system along the way.
            He wrote and recommended trying to get another lawyer.
            Why ? Simple. I’m not a black criminal or drug addict, and he still thinks I should stand a chance. I dont plan on being on disability all my life either, so that doesn’t fit into their model. You have to want to be disabled before 50 for them to want to help you.

  • Jim B

    Too Late, they’ve caused health care cost to double, the poor and the middle (whoever that is) can’t afford it, lies lies lies and more lies have come to nest themselves in the government run health care takeover scheme! And they are still trying to hide the costs, You Don’t Know Until You Sign Up for IT, a Nancy Polosi! But as the poles suggest, nearly 35 percent of the country (serfs) haven’t a clue as to what is going on around them, even with their FREE PHONE! Ignorance is bliss!

  • Fred Rutherford

    In order to make a real impact on senate races & the nation , the GOP should put forth their own health care reform bill & make sure it includes 3 things…(1) Tort Reform & (2) opening up purchases across state lines to drive competition & lower premiums & (3) a less intrusive & less costly way of subsidizing healthcare for the uninsured…. & hammer it at every opportunity & keep saying to America, “NOT ONE OF US VOTED FOR THIS HORROR, ONLY THE DEMS DID & HERE IS OUR PLAN & IT IS MUCH BETTER”

    • Deerinwater

      exactly! ~ Fred! ~ Lead!

      and maybe immigration reform while they had got their “Thinking Caps” on.

      As it currently stands, ~ Democrats only needed to hammer the dismal GOP track record ~ on everything from spending money,to waging war, to social interest, civil projects and low employment. ~ From a bad track record to no track recorded at all is all they seem to have ~ and requires a diversion and change the subject their only defense.

      • Fred Rutherford

        Yes, they stink too, but They are still leagues better than anti-life, anti-God LOONY TUNES LIBs!!!

        • Deerinwater

          So you prefer one smell over the other? ~ Can I too be allowed that same privilege or is it exclusive among a chosen few?

          • Fred Rutherford

            Of course you can, but yours smells worse…..there is NO CHANCE, ZIPPO, NADA of turning this nation around under the LOONY TUNES LIBS…..NONE!!! At least with GOP, there are a few good men & women who can lead us back to the blueprint the Founders envisioned & start cutting this federal Beast down!

            I really do believe to be a liberal in these times & back the DEMs is sign of mental illness!

            “The whole point of modern liberalism is for liberals to feel good about themselves” -George Will

          • Deerinwater

            Oh really? ~ That George Will is very cleaver. ~ Not actually be a liberal, I wouldn’t know about that. ~

            But Feeling good or bad about one’s own self in important but it shouldn’t interfere with making difficult decisions.

            While is was the GOP, ~ that was largely responsible for running us in the ditch ~ now to beat them up today for doing something yesterday ~ might not be such a good idea. For people can wake up and they can change. ~ I’d really like to see evidence of this awaking. For how can people ever change , if you won’t permit them too?

            I admit, ~ I think that maybe Newt Gingrich has left the building ~ while I know Phil Gramm has. ~ and some faces are missing from the old guard left as well.

    • nc

      FRED, the GOP has had since 1860 to come up with one major plan that didn’t eventually fall on it’s butt! Trickle down falls victim every time to the greed of those who get the tax breaks and stick them in their pockets or sends them off shore!!! Their wars we don’t need eventually piss off those who have to fight them and the families who suffer the losses. Ike was decent and Ronnie was above par for a Republican! The rest of them were weak, weaker or totally incompetent like Daddy’s Boy bush, the Crawford Cretin!!

  • Guest

    Even if per chance the Republicans re-gained both houses of Congress, just as they always do when they have an opportunity to actually speak for the American people, and do something right for a change, I have full faith and confidence that the Republicans will do something to screw things up as badly as their Democratic cohorts. They always do, and a leopard never changes its spots.

    • Deerinwater

      The GOP needs ~ a strong leader ~ that can be endeared by a majority of Americans and not a narrow few. ~

      A tall shopping list it seems.

      • Bill

        The democrats and republicans are just the organ grinders monkey.
        It is time for a third party to unite the productive people of this country.
        Jesse Ventura 2016

        • smilee

          Your quoting Mninnesota’s biggest failure

          • KnuckleHead Smith

            NAH, that is Al Franken-Stein!!!

          • smilee

            MN does not thnk so, they do about venturabut not Frankin and unless you live in MN your opinon means nothing

          • rwm44

            slimee if you live in Mn that would make Ventura Minnesota’s second biggest failure according to you

          • JeffH

            …like your opinion and lies mean you haven’t had any credibility on this website for several years now!
            Nuff said! LMAO!

        • Porky The Pole Dancer

          I suggest “The Constitutional Libertarian Party” , led by Ron Paul & son!!

          • Bill

            Good suggestion, Porky

          • Motov

            Andrew Napolitano (spelling?)

          • NC

            PORKY, WHAT A GREAT IDEA!! NOW ALL YOU NEED IS 48 % MORE OF THE VOTES!!! YOU CAN BUY THEM FROM THE PREPUBLICANS! THEY SELL OUT ON EVERYTHING!!

        • Deerinwater

          I would like to see a “strong” third party that could be seen as in “contention” and a real threat to both GOP& DNC. and not just a “spoiler”

      • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

        The GOP needs to be Replaced with a True Conservative Movement…Just as the Republicans did in 1854 when the Whig Party became TOTALLY USELESS…LIKE THE REPUKES ARE NOW

    • squeeze127

      That’s why the TEA Party has taken hold! Ted Cruz is making a stand, where’s all the moderate GOP? Well let’s see, McCain, Graham, and company are siding with the Dems. Palin Cruz and Lee are against the the ACA, which spots do YOU want on that leopard? For a start just look at the 18 R’s that voted NO in the Senate two weeks ago!

    • http://www.thefreedomtrainusa.com/ FreedomTrainUSA

      I will change what you said…There is a 100% chance that Republicans WILL SCREW IT UP….

    • Motov

      Yup, we need constitutional conservatives in congress, not neo-cons, RINO’s, or liberals masquerading as conservatives.

  • Bill

    Another good example of why you should not let government rum your health care. If this was the private sector, those people would have been fired a long time ago.
    Scrap this website, fire the contractor and hire the contractors that run Amazon’s web site

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Bill, I believe you contradicted your views, scrap this website, fire the contractor is fine and then instead of saying don’t ever start this trash up again, you said to hire the contractors that run Amazon’s web site. Why?

      • Bill

        You are right, Nad
        I should have said scrap the whole thing. I guess my point was to say that you need to hire the private sector to make something work.

        • Jeff

          Yes, nothing ever goes wrong when the private sector runs it. BP? Exxon? The Big Banks in 2008? Keep dreaming. And you think Amazon, et. al. didn’t have website problems early on? The main reason the federal website is so complicated is it has to tie together several states and insurance company records. The states that set up their own exchanges aren’t having such problems, but the Repug governors who are dragging their feet are making implementation difficult. It’ll get straightened out, people will be able to get covered, and you’ll look like an ass for having opposed a popular program allowing people with pre-existing conditions to get covered. Can you imagine a society where people can get health care? Must be your worst nightmare!

          • NC

            JEFF, The right can’t afford for Health Care reform to succeed! They have PROMISED America that it will ruin the country! They have bet their political lives on it!
            If it succeeds to the level of Canada, England and Mass. they are dead and gone for eternity! And they should be for the mess they made with the economy and the terrible wars! As they say down home!! GOOD RIDDANCE!

          • LZ

            My god Jeff……you say we can’t get health care in this country. About ten years ago I developed an irregular heartbeat and needed an implant. The device performs anti-tachycardia therapy, antibradycardia therapy, it paces and defibrillates. The time from diagnosis to the device being implanted was…..two weeks!! I should also probably add a two week wait for my initial visit with the cardiologist. I’ll tell you….I’m totally horrified at the possibility of gov’t run health care!!!!

          • JeffH

            Unhinged Jeff says “Yes, nothing ever goes wrong when the private sector runs it. BP? Exxon? The Big Banks in 2008?”

            Hate to tell you this Unhingd Jeff(not really)but they’re all crony-capitalists that are in bed with big government…DUH!

  • Shorty Stuff

    Those a$$hats in Washington delaying it by a year will only help the democraps in next year’s election. If the repubs vote for that, they are only slitting their own throats. It should be repealed completely instead of being delayed, and they should stick to their guns this time instead of caving like they did during the debt raising fiasco. How did we ever get a city (washington dc) full of incompetent clowns (sorry to insult all you clowns out there) like we have now? Treason has become SOP and BAU now.

  • red neck

    “He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17

    Enough said!

    • red neck

      For those of you that would doubt what the Bible say’s….
      I suggest that you go on the obama-care web site ( if you can ) and determine for yourself what information that they are asking of you that is NOT as it is written in the Bible…..

      • Vis Fac

        I have absolutely no intention of doing so anything government administered is a disaster. I am not about to let the government tell me who my health provider will be and tell me what treatments I can have. For years the government tried its best to kill me I’m not about to let it happen now!!!!!

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Mole Johnson

      He’s just a weasel … not the anti christ.

      • red neck

        You may want to reconsider your thoughts as you are apparently not informed.

        • Jana

          No, he isn’t the antiChrist or the spurious Messiah. That is going to be Satan. He is coming instead of Christ. That is what it means. Obama is however a good forerunner of the anti Christ.
          Anti Christ will be able to call fire down from heaven with his hands, Obama can’t do that trick yet. Remember the Bible says when you hear peace peace, that is when you will know it is time for the 6th seal, the 6th vial and the 6th trump. This has not happened yet. We are still hearing war and rumors of war.

          Read Ezekiel as well as Revelation.

  • Jeff

    Can you point me to the columns you wrote saying the same thing about the problems when Medicare Part D was launched? Because I can point you to wingnuts who said the same thing you’re saying now about Social Security and Medicare. It will be the end of freedom, the end of western civilization as we know it. You place a lot of importance on keeping many uninsured and on guaranteeing premiums keep increasing so they get to 20% of GDP. You wingnuts NEVER have a positive plan, but you sure can yell when someone else proposes something to help somebody. Maybe that’s why you guys are about as popular as head lice.

    • flashy

      Jeff, the crazies biggest fear about Obamacare is that it gets launched and people sign up. They are scared because it will work. Not as good as having a public option, but better than the insane system it replaces.

      Notice they scream lie demonize it, yet offer no alternative? Because they can’t. Remove the label Obamacare and talk specifics, no one wants it taken away.

      They crazies will claim it drives up insurance premiums. Ok, talk specifics. FOX McNews had six people on claiming Obamacare ruined their lives. no specifics. All claimed it drove their costs sky high. Reached later, turns out every one of them, including the two small businesses, would have lower premiums and better coverage. also turns out they never checked themselves, they relied on the inaacurate information given by the FOX host ( Hannity)

      About those business waivers. This is omitted from the rants of the crazies….the companies granted waivers are few in number, and were granted waivers because for the first year, their insurance for PT employees is better than required ! In 2025, the will be in compliance…by doing no changes ! The waivers saved them money because they won’t have to do the initial papeteork, undo then redo their employee insurance, and save the feds a few shekels as well.

      but the crazies don’t want truth, they only want to demonize, hate, and rharm this nation
      By all means, let’s make the 2014 election a mandate on Obanacare.

      • Ron

        and i’m sure flushy you have signed up and can attest to it’s affordability and benefits?? Our alternative? We already had it b4 you were born..a free market…we were never forced to buy and when you can prove you have purchased Ocare i’ll listen!

      • Jana

        No one has to demonize it, its doing a good job on its own. hahaha.

      • Don 2

        I am really looking forward to when the waivers expire for the unions. That should be a laugh a minute.

        Hey flashy, here’s one for you. A 30-year old woman who earns more than $36,000/year doesn’t get a subsidy, but Charlie Rangel, who earns $174,000/year, gets a subsidy.

      • Jeff

        Hannity is a joke as a “journalist,” but the real reporters aren’t a heckuva lot better. When the Repugs were running around saying “repeal and replace,” I’m sure some reporter somewhere asked “replace with what?” but the question wasn’t asked often and never became the heart of the story in the “liberal media.”

        The point is reporters who actually know something need to ask questions about facts, not about Politician A’s opinion of Politician B’s position. Many reporters think they’ve done their job if they put a microphone in front of two people who disagree and get both sides. So, A says, in effect, 2+2=3 and B says 2+2=5. The reporter knows the real answer but thinks it’s beyond his pay grade to say so.

        Obamacare shouldn’t be compared with perfection but with the system it’s replacing. Can it be improved upon? Yes, and it will but only once it becomes as unthinkable to repeal it as it would be to repeal Social Security.

      • ‘Barbara Messmer

        Strange that EVERY Democrat up for election in 2014 is now saying that the individual mandate should be delayed a year. Of course back when it was only Tea Party/GOP saying delay they were “Traitors” and “Anarchists” and “Arsonists”.

    • JeffH

      Unhinged Jeff, because you have such a Nazi fetish I thought I’d share this with you…Now ‘Hitler’ blasts Obamacare failure

      http://article.wn.com/view/2013/10/24/Now_Hitler_blasts_Obamacare_failure/#/video

      • Palin16

        Hilarious!

    • Don 2

      Since when is a dumb plan better than no plan at all?

      • Jana

        When it covers things you don’t need or want, and you can’t afford it. DUH!!!

    • ‘Barbara Messmer

      Which is exactly what ACA is going to accomplish. Actually with so many companies cancelling policies we will probably wind up with many millions more without insurance.

    • Don 2

      Jeff, maybe that’s why you guys are considered the same as head lice?

      • Jeff

        “Considered”? The “thoughts” of a few TP Wingnuts who deny evolution and science hardly count as “consideration” any more than the silly conflation of anyone you dislike with Hitler and Stalin. I hope I have earned your hatred, and I welcome it.

        • Don 2

          I don’t hate bugs because they’re bugs. I just spray them with Raid.

  • Chuckb

    Obamacare, What a laugh, affordable medical care, LOL. Baqrry is dumber than a fence post, he doesn’t have a clue what’s going on. It’s really tough trying to run a country from a gold course of a basketball game. Of course if you don’t have the faculty to comprehend the situation, what can you say.

    This is the Bolsheviks shinning hour and guess what, their lights went out and they haven’t the coin to pay the power company , So look out everyone barry will be on the stump asking for more tax, then more tax, then more tax. This guy has to be the joke of the century,( two centuries.) The most ignorant person to ever sit in the White House, makes Jimmy Carter look like a brain surgeon

  • JUKEBOX

    This should have been called the UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT, because there will be few people who can afford this train wreck. Most of the targeted young people will be staying on their parent’s policy until they’re 26.

    • ch2801

      Will their parents still be able to afford insurance or have to go without and pay the penalty?

  • Alex

    Only a country as sick as this one would prefer giving public money to the oil companies and the offense industry rather than provide people with health care. No wonder God hates us….

    • red neck

      God loves everyone even the stupid like you.

      • Alex

        You are correct, red neck—God or the Gods love everyone.
        However, to imagine that God has any favorites amongst nations is absurd. No God would care for arbitrary lines drawn across Her Earth by humans bent on power and greed.

        Of all the nations on Earth, though, God holds a particular animus toward nations that drop nuclear weapons on Her sleeping babies, i.e.—US!

        • Don 2

          And you know this how Alex? Did he speak to you?

        • Motov

          Pushing for a one world government? I guess we can erase the old testament. You know, about how God parted the Red Sea so the jewish people could get away from Egypt, Then all those nations that fought Israel and lost. What is even more amazing, in 1948 Israel, like a phoenix was reborn, and the Muslim people tried to boot them out, The Muslim people had a population advantage, bigger army, But could not drive Israel into the Mediterranean Sea, The land was a desert, It’s green now.
          I hate to tell you, but I think God likes Israel.
          And he seems to honor lines drawn on earth.

          • Jana

            That just goes to show you NC doesn’t know the One True God very well or the Bible. But what can we expect from a true blue Socialist?

          • Motov

            If we use logic, and some simple truths. There are only two masters you can serve, One died for your redemption, The other attempted to run the entire show.
            Socialism attempts to run the entire show.
            Take a guess?

        • ‘Barbara Messmer

          Hardly call Japan a sleeping baby considering the decade of war it waged before bombing Pearl Harbor. You start a fight you have to expect people to fight back.

        • ‘Barbara Messmer

          Hardly call Japan a sleeping baby considering the decade of war it waged before bombing Pearl Harbor. You start a fight you have to expect people to fight back.

          • Jana

            Great reply Barbara.

    • JeffH

      Speak for yourself Comrade Alex. God isn’t like you, God is forgiving and God hates no one…but at some point you, like the rest of us, will be judged. Time for you to start acquiring some flameproof clothing…maybe!

    • WTS/JAY

      Jon Stewart Tears Apart Obama, DOJ For Prosecuting Whistleblowers

    • WTS/JAY

      This is why God hates Liberals, Alex.

      Liberal Logic: Demanding that the government stay out of your bedroom while insisting they pay for your birth control and abortions.

      Liberal Logic: Demand the right to kill an innocent child as it’s being brought into the world but yet insist on clemency for a man who has raped, tortured and burned to death a mother and her two teenage daughters.

      • Jana

        Oh that is a good one Jay.

      • Motov

        Liberal logic? When the economy tanks, and people can no longer get ends even close enough to look at each other, let alone meet. Raise taxes, and send aid to foreign countries, then blame Bush for the calamity.

        • Jana

          And now they are saying The Dems aren’t going to ‘negotiate’ about the budget after all if the Republicans won’t let Obama raise taxes, then the Dems won’t let the Republicans lower Medicare and Medicaid. Hmmmm.

          • Motov

            Yeah, kinda makes ya scratch your head,…doesn’t it?

        • WTS/JAY

          Yes, their bizarre logic permeates every facet of their lives, Motov!

    • Jana

      Jay nailed you on that one Alex, but since you absolutely hate oil so much why don’t you try walking everywhere you go, and by the way, what are you doing using a computer that a by product of oil made? Put your money where your big mouth is!

      • Motov

        Health care is not a right, If you think health care is expensive now, Wait until ACA kicks in.

    • Jana

      Alex you think God hates us???? This brings to mind a couple of scriptures here. Remember, YOU brought it up.

      Prov 6:16-19
      16 There are six things which Jehovah hateth; Yea, seven
      which are an abomination unto him:
      17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed
      innocent blood; (Haughty, proud or arrogant.)
      18 A heart that deviseth wicked purposes, Feet that are
      swift in running to mischief,
      19 A false witness that uttereth lies, And he that soweth
      discord among brethren.

      Prov 1:27-33
      27 When your fear cometh as a storm, And your calamity cometh on as a whirlwind; When distress and anguish come upon you.
      28 Then will they call upon me, (God in the name of Jesus) but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they shall not find me:
      29 For that they hated knowledge, And did not choose the fear of Jehovah:
      30 They would none of my counsel; They despised all my reproof.
      31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own devices.
      32 For the backsliding of the simple shall slay them, And the careless ease of fools shall destroy them.
      33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell securely, And shall be quiet without fear of evil.

      The last verse says there is still time. Reach out to God aka Jehova, aka YHVH through Christ.

  • Alex

    Most of you Fright Wingers watch Sean insHannity. Check out the Salon.com websight article by Eric Stern. Mr Stern contacted all of the whiners Sean had on his show and proceeded to blow giant holes of truth in their lies.

    The couple that claimed they had to lay off workers in their business were LIARS: companies of with fewer than fifty employees are exempt. This couple lied, because they did not have to lay ANYONE off due to Obamacare.

    Other panelists claimed that their rates were going up, but admitted they had NOT EVEN looked into the ACA. Mr Stern did that FOR them and showed them that they could save thousands of dollars.

    Of course, the bulk of PLD readers are oblivious to this, their heads buried so deeply in the sand…..

    • WTS/JAY

      Jon Stewart totally annihilates Dem Party on ObamaCare Glitches – Y

    • JeffH

      Comrade Alex, the useful idiot…ever one of the Liar in Chief ,O’Man’s ,apologist.

      Eric Stern has no established credibility and his “fact check” of the Hannity guests is only an opinion piece by Stern with absolutley nothing to support his opinion…other than conjecture.

      Stern noted that Obamacare has no effect on any business with less than 50 employees. And Stern knows this how? Pure conjecture and a false premise…there are certainly “unintended”(intended?)consequenses that do affect everyone of us in one way or another.

      “In our brief conversation [with Paul Cox and his wife Michelle] on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce? “Well,” he said, “I haven’t been forced to do so, it’s just that I’ve chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs.” What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said he’d call me back. He never did.”

      “The two other couples interviewed by Stern both claimed that the new policies offered by Obamacare would cost them considerably more than their previous insurance rates. After doing his own search on the Obamacare exchange website based on the couples’ circumstances, Stern found that this was just not true.”

      Hmmm, Stern did his own research…”After doing his own search on the Obamacare exchange website”… he concluded the three couples must be lying.” Is this conjecture? Absolutley!

      Stern actually believes what he has read on the Obamacare exchange website…even though many of the supporting Dems are starting to complain about the exchange and info(or lack of )from the website,
      “incredibly misleading”.

      Here’s a bio on Eric Stern from College Democrats of Connecticut :

      Treasurer: Eric Stern, Yale University
      Eric, a junior at Yale University, is a political science major from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Eric is interested in redistricting and campaign finance reform, and worked this past summer for The Campaign Legal Center, a Washington-based nonprofit. Before serving as Treasurer for CDCT, Eric also worked as an intern for US Senator Bob Casey (D-PA) and for the Senatorial campaign of Joe Sestak. At Yale, Eric is active with the Yale College Democrats, The Politic, West Wing Weekly, and Squash Haven.

      Who is Eric Stern? A very bright Yale undergraduate student and a progressive Democrat who, like most liberal/progressives, believes that the government knows what’s best for everyone and is the answer to this countries woes, not the cause or the problem. Eric Stern is pro-big tax supporter and believes taxpayers get a 100% return on their investment.

      For God, For Country, For Yale… and for Taxes
      – By Eric Stern
      “Yale undergraduates overwhelmingly approve of President Obama and support his 2012 reelection campaign wholeheartedly. … Yale students are far more likely to identify as liberal (41 percent) or very liberal (18 percent) than they are as conservative (10 percent) or very conservative (3 percent). Another 28 percent of students identify as moderate.”

      Remember it was Obama who boldly stated “Punish Enemies and Reward Friends.”

      Me thinks Stern is ambitiously lobbying for a position within the Obama DC/Chicago Crime Organization.

      • Jana

        Thank you JeffH. I was also wondering how Eric Stern could get on that site to check out 3 people’s stats, when multiple hundreds of thousands can’t get on to check out their own stats.
        He sounds more than a little dishonest there, just like good old Alex does.

        • JeffH

          Jana, I remember him from the college focus group that was on Hannity a month or so ago. Like the others who identified themselves as liberal/Dems, he expoused the same talking points that we hear daily from the lib/progressives. Everything he says is based on him believing what he reads or hears from the MSM, Obama and their ilk.

          He’s young and obviously impressionable but he “ain’t got one iota of real life experience” other than being sucked into the propaganda he’s fed…a useful idiot by choice but with bigger ambitions.

        • Alex

          Mr Stern called insHannitty’s guests himself, spoke with them personally.

        • Alex

          Mr Stern called insHannitty’s guests himself, spoke with them personally.

          • Jana

            That’s not what he said. I quote Alex, ” Other panelists claimed that their rates were going up, but admitted
            they had NOT EVEN looked into the ACA. Mr Stern did that FOR them and
            showed them that they could save thousands of dollars.”
            Read it before you try to prove it.

      • JeffH

        Comrade Alex…WHAT…NO REBUTTLE? NOT SURPRISED!
        ROFLMAO!
        disclaimer: all caps were for effect only

    • WTS/JAY

      Jon Stewart Totally DESTROYS Obama Administration Over IRS Scandal | A MUST WATCH

      • Jana

        All of the scandals that Obama has been having just has to come out. What he does in secret will come out in the light. It even says this in the Bible.

        Mark 4:22, For there is nothing hid, save that it should be
        manifested; neither was (anything) made secret, but that it should come to light.

        Luke 12: 3 Wherefore whatsoever ye have said in the darkness shall be heard in the light; and what ye have spoken in the ear in the inner chambers shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

        • WTS/JAY

          It’s getting so bad, Jana, his own people are turning on him and will soon throw him “under the bus”!

      • Alex

        So….let’s accept the fact that Mr Stewart has an open mind, is willing to attack moderates like President Obama with the same vigor he uses when skewering the Right Wing, and plays no favorites.

        Cool.

        Mr Stewart righteously hammers the GOP in general, and the Teabaggers in particular, nearly every night. So post some more linkkks….

        • Don 2

          Obama a moderate….now that’s funny! He’s as far-left extremist as they come.

          • ‘Barbara Messmer

            Other than trying to claim that Obama is a moderate, no attempt to defend Obama.

    • WTS/JAY

      Jon Stewart Mocks Obama Over Latest Scandals

      • Alex

        Yes; quite funny.

    • Don 2

      I’ll tell you what remember about the far left site Salon.com. I remember a liberal columnist named David Sirota, who was just hoping, praying, that the Boston bomber was a white guy because if the perp wasn’t a white guy, that would imperil every item on the liberal agenda. Do you remember that Alex?

      • Jana

        So what does this have to do with the price of bread????

        • Don 2

          I would think the fact that they were praying that the Boston bomber was a white guy would clue you in? It has to do with the far-left doing whatever it takes and saying whatever it takes, to protect liberalism, and their agenda. If the guy is not white, it can hurt the gun control agenda. If the guy is not white, it can hurt the amnesty agenda. That was what they were worried about. You want to believe these people, that’s your choice.

          • Jana

            OH BROTHER!

            Some of the things that God hates from Proverbs:

            18 A heart that deviseth wicked purposes, Feet that are
            swift in running to mischief,

            19 A false witness that uttereth lies, And he that soweth
            discord among brethren.

            Recognize anyone here?? Go look in the mirror!

          • Don 2

            Jana, unlike a liberal, I wouldn’t make it up.

            Let’s Hope The Boston Marathon Bomber Is A White American ~ David Sirota ~ Salon,com ~ April 16, 2013

            http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

          • Jana

            I know you wouldn’t but Alex and his kind would. With them all they would do is try to confuse and divide. The go look in the mirror remark was made to Alex not to you. I know how you are, and I should have made that clear last night.

            Thanks for not taking that personally. It was late.

      • Jeff

        Hey Moron, look at the facts. Insanity put people on to say specific things about the ACA that were patently untrue. You can love the guy all you want, but as a journalist, he’s a fraud. One guy said he had to lay people off or cut their hours so he didn’t have to insure them. Problem is he had only 5 employees and the ACA applies only to businesses with more than 50 employees. In the rational world, that guy is called a liar.

        • Don 2

          1. CBS News found that the HealthCare.gov website drastically underestimates costs for consumers, thereby discrediting the accuracy of Eric Stern’s report. I noticed Eric Stern did not mention this fact.
          http://freebeacon.com/obamacare-website-often-lists-wrong-coverage-prices/

          2. Employers with less than 50 employees frequently provide healthcare coverage as part of an employment package. These employees are receiving healthcare coverage cancellations because their current policies do not meet the one-size-fits-all ObamaCare coverage requirements, whether or not they want or need these extras.

          3. Healthcare coverage premiums are skyrocketing because new policies are required to meet the one-size-fits-all requirements.
          http://freebeacon.com/study-average-premiums-for-young-women-to-increase-193/

          4. Healthcare coverage premiums are also skyrocketing because the healthy are required to pay for those with pre-existing conditions.

    • Don 2

      Due to the fact that companies with under 50 employees often provide healthcare coverage as part of an employment package, and these policies are being canceled, or their cost is rising substantially due to ObamaCare’s one-size-fits-all requirements, it is entirely feasible that small companies have to lay-off employees in order to be able to afford to provide healthcare packages to the remaining employees.

      Mr. Stern failed to mention that the Obamacare website drastically underestimates costs for consumers policies, and in all probability used these incorrect figures.
      http://freebeacon.com/obamacare-website-often-lists-wrong-coverage-prices/

      CBS: Insurers Canceling Coverage for Hundreds of Thousands of Americans Because of Obamacare

      http://freebeacon.com/cbs-insurers-canceling-coverage-for-hundreds-of-thousands-of-americans-because-of-obamacare/

    • Vigilant

      “Other panelists claimed that their rates were going up, but admitted they had NOT EVEN looked into the ACA. Mr Stern did that FOR them and showed them that they could save thousands of dollars.”

      The only way Stern could have accomplished that would be to have all of the personal information on those people and then access the Obamacare website. He must be a wizard if he can get the website to respond.

      The most laughable thing about you, Alex, is your slavish devotion to misinformation about Obamacare. Costs for virtually everyone will increase. No need to take my word for it. Time will prove you completely wrong.

      • Motov

        Anything plus BIG government= BIG prices for the rest of us, and BIG profits for the rip–off companies involved and added
        costs for the extra bureaucrats, to process your claims.
        Usually to rubber stamp “NO” so you need to hire a lawyer to prove you need medical help which will take enormous time because of the patients ahead of you also fighting the system.
        By the time they approve you, You already hired Jack Kevorkian to cure you.

        That is what I know will happen.

  • red neck

    The race baiting liberal communist have flocked to this article like blow flies on obama’s ass.

    • Jeff

      At least now we know what you’re doing when you’re not at a lynching or posting nonsense here.

  • Motov

    More and more people are onto Obozo’s scheme.
    Unfortunately Obozobots will have to learn the hard way.

    • Don 2

      They will learn the hard way because Obamacare’s chicke-e-e-e-n-n-s-s are coming home to roost. When it hits them personally in their pocketbooks and they start writing those checks to pay for their unexpectedly higher premiums and deductibles, the blame falls directly on Obama.

      • Motov

        Yup I believe it is called the school of hard knocks.
        However when they realize they been hoodwinked, it’ll be too late

      • Old Henry

        Nope. It will be Bush’s fault.
        I ran into an Obama Rat today who was ranting about Bush causing the high gas prices.

  • Lysander Jefferson

    Once again the communist shills have damaged the comment section of Personal Liberty Digest articles. It is sad that the “remedy” is to discontinue anonymous postings.
    So here is my last anonymous post: Obama is a damn communist. Anyone who doesn’t believe that is a total fool.

  • Jeff Noncent

    I believe there is hope and I will try my best to stop the Scorpion goal to destroy this nation

  • Old Henry

    Disaster or success. It depends on your goals and
    expectations.

    From the communists perspective it is a huge success in that
    it is accomplishing what they intended. Ruining the insurance industry, ruining
    our nation’s economy, putting people “on the street” as far as health insurance
    is concerned, doubling, tripling, quadrupling premiums to unaffordable levels.
    In general, wreaking havoc.

    From the citizens perspective it is indeed a disaster.

    Don’t like ObamaCare?

    Remember the Obama Rats who put him there.

    • Jeff

      You undoubtedly hated Medicare in the 60s, too. Why not take a principled stand, give it up, and shop for insurance on the open market. But then, senility might be considered a pre-existing condition.

  • Jeff

    Yes, so much simpler to stick with the Repug Plan. Do nothing, allow insurance companies to cut people off for pre-existing conditions, let people die of preventable diseases, and declare victory.

    • TML

      Your argument is an Appeal to Pity fallacy.

      Healthcare, better left to the States, is incorrectly assimilated – like Education – from a vague definition of “general welfare” or stretched meaning of the commerce clause. It is not an explicit power delegated to the federal government. Even when ruled a tax, it did not pass the House in accordance with the rules of the Constitution regarding taxation, and no doubt it is more than a tax; it is a large spending item as well… and comes at time when Social Security and Medicare are both already larger budget items than the deficit itself, not to mention the 17 trillion dollar national debt. Universal Healthcare on a national level is an economic mistake that is likely to result in decreased quality of medical care.

      • Jeff

        The individual mandate was upheld under the taxing authority. That does not necessarily make it a tax as the taxing authority includes administrative penalties. Social Security has added nothing to the deficit or the national debt.

        • Vigilant

          “Social Security has added nothing to the deficit or the national debt.”

          Good God man, it’s obvious you never took a course in economics, and very dubious that you ever passed basic mathematics.

          Does the term “unfunded liabilities” have any meaning for you whatsoever?

          Here we have the very epitome of the term “low information voter.”

        • TML

          Being upheld under the taxing authority necessarily makes it a tax. That’s what an administrative penalty is; only in this instance you are taxed (penalized) if you don’t buy the product. But it did not properly originate in the House (Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1)

          As for Social Security, I find the following to be credible information explained simply.

          “Social Security contributes about $53 billion to the budget deficit.

          Although Social Security used to run surpluses, over the past few years it hasn’t collected enough in taxes to pay in benefits. And the trust fund consists not of prior Social Security surplus funds, but of interest-bearing securities provided through federal government borrowing — thus the link to the deficit.

          Social Security is a pay-as-you-go system: Payroll taxes paid by current workers and their employers go to pay benefits to current retirees and other Social Security recipients.

          From 1984 to 2009, Social Security collected more money in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits. That surplus was transferred from the Social Security program to the federal government’s general fund. In return, the Treasury gave Social Security bonds that it could redeem to pay future benefits. The government, in turn, incurred obligations to repay the bonds, plus interest, to the Social Security trust fund.

          Since 2010, Social Security has been paying more in benefits than it has collected in payroll taxes. To meet its payments, Social Security began redeeming the bonds, plus interest, from the federal government. In other words, money was transferred from the government’s general fund to Social Security. That has an impact on the government’s deficit because the Treasury has had to borrow money in order to make such a transfer.

          Pocan noted that in the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2012, Social Security had a $36 billion surplus. But he ignores the fact that Social Security had to tap its trust fund. A closer look shows that Social Security actually had a cash flow deficit and used roughly $110 billion in interest to help make benefit payments. Because the government had to borrow money in order to pay the interest to Social Security; that contributes to the federal deficit.”

          http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/apr/26/mark-pocan/social-security-doesnt-add-federal-deficit-us-rep-/

  • Michael Gregory

    Obama-care is a deeply flawed “solution” to our healthcare problems. If buying insurance is mandatory who do you really think benefits form this so-called program? Wake up!

  • Hank

    Obama is a lying fool. He CANNOT be TRUSTED, an anti-American Muslim.
    What has happened to AMERICA???????????

  • Christine Ferrara Fernez

    Wake up people nothing is free it all comes with a price this one
    is TOO high to pay !