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Diplomatic Quarrel Continues With Iran Over Spy Drone

December 14, 2011 by  

Diplomatic Quarrel Continues With Iran Over Spy Drone

Foreign relations between the United States and Iran are becoming ever more strained as the Administration of Barack Obama asks the country to return an unmanned surveillance drone downed in the region.

Obama said Monday that the United States wants the top-secret aircraft back, but there is no indication that Iranian leaders are willing to comply.

The state-run Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) reported on Tuesday that the Obama Administration’s requests are childlike in light of the likely dubious nature of the failed drone mission.

“This is a bit like a kid asking for his ball back, though I’m not sure he used the word please,” said Yvonne Ridley, a U.K. journalist, in an interview with IRNA. The news outlet also indicates that the drone capture is proof that the United States continuously violates international conventions and violates Iranian airspace.

According to The Associated Pressformer Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday called the downing of the drone “a significant intelligence loss and suggested that it would have been fairly simple for the United States to “go in and take out the drone.”

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that Iranians have “been able to control” the U.S. drone, Venezuelan state TV reported.

“There are people here who have been able to control this spy plane,” Ahmadinejad said. “Those who have been in control of this spy plane surely will analyze the plane’s system. Furthermore, the systems of Iran are so advanced also, like the system of this plane.”

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Sirian

    This is merely a continuation of disinformation. As to what is actually going on will never be fully known. The typical “diplomatic” maneuvers are far from unexpected. I agree with what Cheney said, “it would have been fairly simple of the U.S. to go in and take out the drone”, which raises a question – why haven’t or why didn’t we? Again, there’s something more going on and the bits and pieces of information that is released is being used as diversionary tactics. We will undoubtedly hear more along this line in the future.

    • Robert Smith

      My question is: Why didn’t the device have a self destruct means on board?

      Rob

      • Sirian

        More than likely they do have that capability but again, once they have lost contact with “home base” they are preprogrammed to merely make a 180 and head back. The self destruct mode may have to be initiated by the controllers – wherever they may happen to be stationed.

        • Overviewer

          Suppose the drone were set on a destruct countdown that would be aborted and restarted, say, every five minutes. It would be on a fail safe, separate and coded system different from the operation of the drone. If someone else gains control of the drone, they would not be able to stop the count down. With our technological abilities, it is hard to believe that we cannot prevent a theft.

          • Bob from SoCal

            I’m beginning to think that this is not so much a theft, as it is a gift from Obama. The drone was completely intact. Without a scratch on it.

          • bob wire

            A strange way to think, a gift from a sitting president.

            I’m think, there is something we don’t yet know or understand but the 1st chair is the last place to look.

          • Mac

            Bob from SoCal – have you seen some photos I haven’t? I haven’t seen any photos that show the entire plane from wingtip to wingtip, or the bottom. There could be some damage that doesn’t show in the photos, or even damage covered up by the Iranians.

    • Vigilant

      Sam Rolley once again fails to report the whole story, to whit:

      “This is a bit like a kid asking for his ball back, though I’m not sure he used the word please,” said Yvonne Ridley, a U.K. journalist, in an interview with IRNA. The news outlet also indicates that the drone capture is proof that the United States continuously violates international conventions and violates Iranian airspace.”

      She’s one hell of a lot more than a “UK journalist.” To quote Wikipedia, she “is a British journalist, war correspondent and Respect Party activist best known for her capture by the Taliban and subsequent conversion to Islam after release, her outspoken opposition to Zionism, and her criticism of Western media portrayals of the War on Terror. RIDLEY CURRENTLY WORKS FOR PRESS TV, THE IRAN-FUNDED AND IRAN-BASED ENGLISH LANGUAGE NEWS CHANNEL (Caps mine)”

      For those who wish to know what the Respect Party is, another quote from Wikipedia: “Respect is a socialist political party in England and Wales founded in 2004. Its name is a contrived acronym standing for Respect, Equality, Socialism, Peace, Environmentalism, Community and Trade Unionism.”

      Glad to see Mr. Rolley is relying on such impeccable news sources.

  • JB

    Cheny had it right when interviewed on TV – - there should have been an immediate American mission to destroy the drone- – - we knew it was down, we knew where it was – even before it was captured – - & we have the capability to destroy it before losing any technology to an avowed enemy ! ! !
    Who decided against that ? ? ? ? Politics as usual ! ! !

    • Rational

      Do you know if the plane was landed at a military base? How far into Iran is this place? Do we mount a special operations team using a Chinook or Sea Knight helicopters to fly them hundreds of miles across Iranian airspace and just what is the probability of success? Anyone old enough to remember the attempt to rescue the US hostages in Iran?
      Mr. Cheney has no morals when it comes to sacrificing American troops in the quest for his pride and personal glory. A provocation like this is tantamount to an act of war. The Intel community failed, their communications to the bird was foiled by a second rate country. That is the simple facts. I just wonder just how much this thing cost.

      • LES

        They cold have taken it out with some of their missile, it they can find a person half way around the world then they could find this thing in short order. Being nice to your enemies could easily get you killed.

        • Bob from SoCal

          They do not need missiles to take down the drone. They just need to jam the drones signal and then take control with a signal of their own.

      • jim

        do you remember who was commander in chief for that attempt?

        • Robert Smith

          Carter, and then Reagan made a back door deal so the hostages were released shortly after his election.

          Rather than going through channels to make an offer Reagan’s team went around the system for political gain. Then later they they got caught at the same kind of game with Iran / Contra.

          Rob

          • JUKEBOX

            This so-called commander in chief openly displayed his man/child personality, when he asked the Iranians to return his “TOY”, or he would think they were “BAD,BAD MEN”. He acts like a kid on a playground, saying that he is going to tell the teacher. If he had gone to one of the schools I went to, he would have gotten his skinny little butt whipped every day.

          • Bob Marshall

            Rob, you are correct. Did you research and find how much money was involved and to whom it was given?

          • MRMO

            LET’S NOT COUNT OUT IT MIGHT JUST HAVE BEEN A GIFT TO THEM FROM OBUMMER, HIS ASKING FOR IT BACK COULD HAVE BEEN FOR SHOW. GOD KNOWS HE SHOWS MORE LOVE TO THE SCUM THAN HE DOES FOR THE U.S.A.. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW HIM PUT HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART FOR THE PLEDGE, OR ANY THING ELSE THAT THE REST OF US DO..

      • Abby

        You seem to have been in a 3-year coma. What has Mr. Chenney got to do with this plane. He hasn’t been the VP for the past 3 years. How misinformed are you? Or is it the usual blame Bush and Cheney mantra? But when a success happens because of Bush’s and Cheney’s policies, like killing Bin-Laden, your side is quick to take credit.

        Please go occupy something!

        • texastwin827

          Abby, you seem to have a reading & comprehension problem. He said “Cheny had it right when interviewed on TV – – there should have been an immediate American mission to destroy the drone- ”

          While he may not be VP anymore, he tends to lend his opinions without being asked for them.

          • Jack

            as are you Tex we are all alowed to express our opinion

        • Rational

          Mr. Cheney concocted a clear and present danger to get us into Iraq. The purpose was increasing profits for Haliburton and all of his Defense contractor buddies. The loss of 4,000 American lives is just chump change to this morally corrupt person. He claims today are simply a continuation of his zeal for more defense spending regardless of the cost of our people in uniform.

      • Marten, Canadian Libertarian

        Got it right, Rational, your tax money at works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • hitthedeck

        It could have been taken out with another drone. If Regan was still President it would have already been destroyed. I would also suspect that he would have put a laser guided bomb into one of their nucular sites.

  • http://comcast JimBob

    Give us back our drone and we’ll give you a bag of cash. Isn’t that the way obama’s “can’t we all get along” policy works? I seem to recall his saying he would meet face to face with the Iranians and be able to solve issues like this. Diplomacy I think he called it. I have to wonder if there was a failsafe feature in this and other drones. It should have been a pile of rubble the second it hit the ground. Instead, obama’s friends in Iran now have a technology gift for the ages. Four more years of this turd and we will be speaking in tongues: Farsi, Bantu, etc.

    • Alex

      Aren’t you thinking of Ronald Raygun trading arms-for-hostages?

      • Troy

        If you only knew what you were talking about you would know that the arms that Reagan supplied were out dated and did not have any real threat to our security because of that. What is being talked about is a drone that is fairly current technology which makes it a real threat. You people who are so brain washed by the talking points of fascist and NWO groupies need to take time and do your own research and gain your own understanding of what happens before opening your hot air blowers. Oh, and by the way, be sure to consider the source of the information as well as the validity of the information which takes even more research.

        • bob wire

          Maybe so Troy, but then again, as you say, How do your really know what they sold them as to what was said. ~ Did you see a shipping manifest?

          After telling one lie, what’s a few more? They are cheaper by the dozen.

          Don’t get me wrong, ~ I fought for Ollie not because of his honor or service, but his commitment to our Commander and Chief. But Ollie is now and forever a liar.

          • JUKEBOX

            Bob, evidently you never hauled any military equipment. Over half of their stuff is shipped either with no manifest, or a bogus manifest.

          • bob wire

            On the contrary Jukebox, ~ I have been heavily engaged in procurement, reclaim, retrograded , supply and maintenance of military equipment and have a on-hands knowledge as to the way it works. It works anyway that you can make it work until you manage to embarrass or compromise the officers that are covering your ass~ets. “Nothing don’t mean nothing”, until which time that someone says that it does.

            Few people actually know the quantity, type and sophistication of the Iranian Arms Deal, and those few men are not talking. To suggest that that you might actually know or that they were mere NATO caliber, bolt action shoulder weapons or just pointed sticks is absurd.

            It was a sugar coated, side deal that deliberately and seriously undermined a sitting US President for GOP party gains. Just one more GOP dirty trick that makes any future “paybacks” justifiable to my way of thinking.

            I was torn, but I defended Ollie North as I have worn the same shoes on occasions, knowing full well that I was expendable. If I pulled it off, I was confiscated in other ways, ~ easy duty, 7 days and 6 nights in Tokyo or Bangkok, a case of Johnny Walker Red, a position, etc~ That’s the way the world works JukeBox. If you get caught, you go stupid and clumsy, become just another adventurous GI engaging in capitalism.

            But you always start any search for the truth with a document search, regardless and look for conflict.

        • Robert Smith

          From Troy: “What is being talked about is a drone that is fairly current technology which makes it a real threat. ”

          Really? How do you know that? Because it looks like something on the cover of Popular Science maybe?

          Why do you believe that the government is telling the truth ever? I see so many doubts on these forums it seems to me nothing can be validated.

          Personally I find it difficult to believe that Iran took down one of our most sophisticated weapons in tact. Either they are way more technologicaly advanced than we’ve been led to believe or we aren’t as advanced as we’ve been led to believe.

          Which is true? And, does it really make any difference at all? With Google Earth it is almost possible to reliably point out the make of a car in the picture from a bird. Individuals can almost be identified from space. Is a drone really needed in a strategic situation? I do appreciate the tactical use for them, but really… What was it doing there in the first place?

          Rob

          • eddie47d

            Spying and provoking war! The good,the bad and the ugly of what we continually get ourselves into and what other countries get themselves into.Once in awhile they get caught with their pants down too.

          • Vigilant

            “Personally I find it difficult to believe that Iran took down one of our most sophisticated weapons in tact. Either they are way more technologicaly advanced than we’ve been led to believe or we aren’t as advanced as we’ve been led to believe.”

            Who said Iran took it down? The controllers lost connection with it, and it did what it was programmed to do: find a level terrain and land. Do you ever read up on current events?

            “Is a drone really needed in a strategic situation? I do appreciate the tactical use for them, but really… What was it doing there in the first place?”

            It was there to monitor the progress of Iranian nuclear development. I’d call that a pretty strategic mission, wouldn’t you?

            Again, what sort of news vacuum do you live in? All of the above is common knowledge.

    • Gary

      I agree with you JimBob. There should be failsafe on all of our high-tech equipment that will prevent them from getting thier hand on them.

      • eddie47d

        Agreed!

      • bob wire

        Not all, but a lot of military equipment does have self destruct features built into the equipment that render them unusable.

        But when you are fighting an enemy that will hacksaw down a drive shaft and use it for a mortar launching tube, just making something inoperable is not enough. You must cut it up into small pieces.

    • Overviewer

      Right on, JimBob!!!

  • Edmund Redsecker

    Just more of the same apeasement , amaturistic, incompetant direction of foreign policy of this administration ! Former V P Cheney is absolutly correct we could have and should have destroyed it and let shout and scream to no avail but as usual we did nothing ! Even so their ability to reverse engineer will be almost impossible even with the Russians !

    • jimmy the greek

      Iranians are Aryan not Arab they well get it done .

  • Alex

    The captured drone is symptomatic of our nation’s depravity.

    We have killers safe inside our borders who can rain death upon whatever shadowy figures they see from video cameras thousands of miles away—just plain wrong.

    From the time the first humans killed each other with simple brute force, those most evil amongst us have worked ever harder at providing a more and more comfortable remove from those we wish to kill. Hands, feet, and teeth became rocks and sticks, and then knives and then bows and then long bows and then guns. Always the farther remove, the cleaner the kill, the less to think about.

    Once mankind took wing it was in short order that we decided this provided a fantastic platform for dropping bombs onto people. The nadir of “American Exceptionalism” came at 8:15 on the morning of August the Sixth, 1945, when we dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima, DESPITE President Truman’s full knowledge that the Japanese were prepared to sue for Peace and that an invasion of the Japanese Mainland, claiming “hundreds of thousands” of American GI lives, would not be necessary. We simply incinerated hundred of thousands of NON-COMBATANTS as a show of strength against the Soviets. You can look it up. For that(and a lot of other things), our nation has doomed its own bad self. To update the great Malcom X quote, the events of 911 were only a case of our own chickens coming home to roost. You sow Evil, you reap Evil, and this wretched country has sown more seeds of violence and injustice than any other empire in History. God is so sick of us…

    So now, to even further cushion our mercenaries from their prey, we have given runny-nosed video game junkies the ability to kill just like in Mortal Kombat—just click a button and your foe is vaporized, and there is NO THREAT to the killer.

    So let all the Goddammed drones fall out of the sky. Let people wiser than us rewire them and send them slamming into the Pentagon. How cool would THAT be?!?

    • Gary

      You sir, are a fool.

    • bob wire

      We have several “Alex” here, there is one who seems to pride himself with his writing skills, a pride that I’ve never understood until now.

      English must be his second or third language and Arabic his primary tongue.

      If that the case, he does write pretty good.

      • libertytrain

        Yes this is the one impressed with himself beyond all others and not quite dealing with a full deck -

    • Paul

      Did the big “O”s writers pen this for you, or did you make it up for your self?

    • jimmy the greek

      As they say ” what goes around comes around “

    • James

      Alex, you should be happy that the bomb was dropped. You would probably not be here other wise. Your Daddy would have never had the chance to make you, because either him or your Grandpappy would have been killed in Japan. Anyone who believes that the Japanese were going to just give up are completly insane.

      • James

        By the way, why are you still in this as you say wretched country? There are so many other wonderful places for you to reside in, like Persia for instance. Of course I realize that you sitting there in Mom’s basement most likely, you get your kicks badmouthing your country by reading all these replies from people who love their country telling you how they feel.

      • James

        While I don’t necessarily disagree with the sentiment here, I am not the ‘James’ who wrote the above two comments. I’m pretty sure I was the first ‘James’ (since May of ’09) commenter here, and it would be appreciated if future commenters who claim the same ‘name’ would be advised at the outset that such ‘name’ was already in use. Thank you.

    • LES

      If Japan was going to sue for peace as you believe then why didn’t they surrender after the first bomb instead of waiting for the second. They could saved an entire city but chose not to.
      The bombs saved at least a million American lives and several millions of Japanese lives which would have occurred if we had to invade Japan. Most of their cities would have laid in ruin like Europe instead of just two.
      If you did not live thru WW II it is best not to judge what they had to do to win it.

    • LES

      in the last 100 years this nation has done more good for more people in the world than all other nations combined. Millions have freedom, either directly or indirectly due to the USA. When the USA is no longer a world power totalism will once again descend over the world.

      • James

        In North Vietnam we had over 550,000 troops on the ground, and we dropped 2 or 3 times more bombs on them than we dropped on Germany in WW II, which killed 3.4 million men, women and children there.
        Vietnam was no threat to the United States, whatsoever, and I’m not proud of what we did there. Nowhere does the Constitution say that Congress shall have the power to destroy nations that it doesn’t approve of.

        • gunner 689

          James: read the SEATO Treaty Accords and see if we were not obligated to come to the aid of S. Vietnam ?

          • jimmy the greek

            If we really wanted to help we should have helped them kick the french out in the early 50s

          • James

            Gunner, We were obligated by a treaty? George Washington said: “Trade with all nations, entangling alliances with none.” I’m with George.

        • eddie47d

          Americans have their own brand of Colonialism and we shouldn’t be fooled in how we ply the way we do business. Treaties can be useful or they can force us to do things (war) that we shouldn’t be involved in.

          • James

            The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) is what President Obama relied on to war against Libya. That treaty recognized our constitutional requirement that our Congress must first declare war before our president may wage it, but Obama said Libya wasn’t really a ‘war.’ A few more treaties, coupled with the ever-expanding power of the U.N., and who needs Congress?

    • Vigilant

      Alex says, “So let all the Goddammed drones fall out of the sky. Let people wiser than us rewire them and send them slamming into the Pentagon. How cool would THAT be?!?”

      What you’ve just iterated is treason if I ever hesrd it. Sounds like you advocate the overthrow of the USG.

      “Despicable” is too good a word to describe you.

      • Alex

        File charges, Teabaggers.

        • Rick

          Hey Alex Put your heart into this country or get your ass out!!!!!!!

        • TeaThis

          You sound REAL familiar with the term ‘teabagger’. Leads me to believe you participate, little teacup.

  • bob wire

    Well as for “child like” , getting caught “peeking” is child like.

    Once committed and caught, only a Pussy would worry about such matters.

    A bigger Pussy would “not” demand it’s return. ~

    If you never ask, you’ll never get it or anything else.

    At least they don’t have one of our men, one of the purposes of the drone.

    Whats most important is, how did this come about and how is it to be prevented?

    They can’t backward engineer this device for many reasons, for one it’s constructed with adhesives they don’t have , never seen or heard of and would take some one very smart 5 years or longer to duplicate and then another 5 years to learn how to use, not to mention the need for a huge pile of money !

    Iran would be wise to stick to what they know best, as they lost any notions of an advanced culture centuries ago. They can’t be helped, any help offer is harmful to them.

    • gunner 689

      that’s what was said about Iran and N. Korea’s ability to develope nuclear weapons. smoehow they stepped up the projected time table significantly. If it is available someone will sell it to them.

      • bob wire

        True ! but still a lot of time and a lot of money, and for what? An invisible plane? ~ clearly it wasn’t invisible enough.

        As I understand it, this drone is the two door post model and lacking greatly in skunk works and teeth compared to the full dress Impala version.

        They are holding some cutting edge, high tech airframe structure, camera and electronics and perhaps programing.

        The programing is cause for serious “NOW” concern, I would think.

        If it’s too much to lose, it will be naturalized by the powers that have the most to lose and it is “time sensitive”, don’t you think?

  • http://burgerd@kearney.k12.mo.us Dwayne B says

    I’m just waiting for Obama to surrender to Cuba..

    • bob wire

      Not sure where that came from? ~ What might have precipitated it, as clearly “O” has backed the military with everything at his disposal.

      Having Stayed committed to what he inherited, even kept “W” choice of Secretary of the Armed Forces, seeing it unwise to change Quarter Backs mid play with so many lives hanging in the balance. No expenses was too much and this expense has much to do with him going through 4.7 Trillion dollars in 3 years. He’s still 7 Trillion short of doubling the inherited national debt like “W” did.

      There is many way to look at it and many way to say it.

      • TeaThis

        And one of those ways might be to say that the highest casualty rate for American servicemen has been since Zero took office in regards to American deaths per month. it used to be that our servicemen staying alive took priority over the bowing to other leaders, and kissing enemy leaders azzes to show that the era of America being a superpower is over, now, we will bow to the will of any tinhorn dictator who sounds tougher than our spineless leader. Or at least in Zeros opinion. Keeping Bushes man is keeping a RINOs man, and that man cannot supersede his ‘bosses’ orders, so all that means is he has someone to throw under the bus when it comes time. In regards to Irans capabilities, they are not who to be concerned with, Iran will sell the tech plane to the highest bidder- Russia, or China. They DO have the money and tech to play with.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Whizzer

    I usually don’t resort to name calling, but the post by Alex has got to be the most erroneous, inane piece of dribble I have read in the past week. So for that sir you get to wear the title of “ass clown” for the entire week. I just wish we could actually meet in person. On behalf of all the men & women since WW2 that have laid down their lives to protect this nation and freedom I would punch you right in the freakin nose! They buy you a one way ticket to China and get your dumb ass outta this country!

    • James

      Whizzer, Neither Germany, Italy nor Japan was a threat to the United States. FDR ordered two destroyers into Euopean and Japanese waters too entice German and Japanese subs to attack those vesels, so Congress would declare war on the axis powers. That ruse didn’t work so FDR spent over a year provoking Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor. All of that has been thoroughly documented in “Day of Deceit – the Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor” by Robert B. Stinnett. Then, in WW II, we were allied with the Soviet Union to destroy anti-communist Geermany – I’m not proud of that.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Fascism and Communism were offspring of the same insane parents . . . Marx and Engels . . . they are brothers. Stalin and Hitler signed treaties before they fought . . . typical loonie lefties!!!

        • bob wire

          Hitler was a fascist, fascism not progressive is it?

          and Hitler gain power indirectly with 28 % of the popular vote some I don’t think he was a loon either.

        • James

          Dale, Germany’s treaty with the Soviets was a ruse. Even before that Hitler was preparing to attack Russia. When Hitler invaded Poland in September 1939, he did so to recover the German land that they were divested of after WW I. After recovering that land, Hitler invited Stalin to take the rest of Poland. Away from hom and lean on supplies, the Germans slaughtered the Soviets, drove them back out and pursued them relentlessly.

      • eddie47d

        Yes they were both loonies and power hungary. One was on the left and one was on the right. Even enemies collaborate to destroy third parties who interfere with their ambitions.

      • jimmy the greek

        You know ! thats good .

  • Lost in Paradise

    Why are we so worried about a pimple on our ass, like Iran. They are no threat to us, and if they were, we could wipe them all from the face of the earth in a matter of hours, with out a single nuke. With nukes, we could clean them up in one hour,about the flight time I think of a ICBM.

    • Ted Crawford

      Once the Nuclear Beast is unleashed who controls it! We are not the only nation with nuclear capibilities and adaquate delievery systems! That is the exact reason we MUST do everything humanly possible to prevent Iran from spreading nukes, not just throughout the Middle East but now also, it seems, in South America!

      • James

        Ted, Iran doesn’t have nukes to spread. Pakistan does, should we stop them from spreading nuclear weapons to the Taliban and al Qaedea?

        • eddie47d

          I don’t like Pakistan having nukes but they also have a right to defend themselves. Do they have a right to arm another nation or rogue rebel groups. No! There is a big difference in defensive actions and agressive actions.

          • James

            I wasn’t accusing Pakistan of aggression. I blame them for providing safe havens for the Taliban, al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden for 8 years.

    • gunner 689

      You can have all the weapons in the world but if you don’t have the will to use them what good are they ? Iran does have the will and the motivation to use them and will do so when the time is ripe. As an example; who is more dangerous, the lawbiding gun collector who owns hundreds of firearms or the crackhead with a Saturday Night Special?

      • Sirian

        gunner, that is the best COMMON SENSE analogy I’ve read in a very long time!!

      • James

        Right, we used ours when the time was ripe.

      • James

        Gunner, what crystal ball have you been leering over? If Pakistan, Russia and Israel have nuclear weapons for their defense, why can’t Iran have some to defend themselves against their enemies? Me thinks you’ve been listening to too much anti-Iran propaganda.

  • Lost in Paradise

    As much as I dislike, and am against Obama, we should not be so naive as to think he is doing this by himself. Our entire government is doing this with him, and using the media to make us think otherwise.

  • jimmy the greek

    If Iran gives it back they are nuts . I bet this has the jew boys thinking twice about flying in there now .

    • Vigilant

      Idiocy, thy name is “jimmy the greek.”

  • Pepper

    If you all want to support the NWO and help the elitists with their goals, Keep supporting the wars and invasions of other Counties. Oh yes, make sure you “bomb” them in the “Name of peace and Democracy”. These elitists don’t care about you, your sons and daughters dying or the thousands of innocent people killed in these escalations of conflicts. They are making lots of $$$$$ of both sides and gaining control laughing all the way to the bank. Maybe if a lot of you would dare peak behind the curtain, you may find out who the real enemy is and getting our drone back would be important as “why” it was there in the first place.

    • jimmy the greek

      I peaked behind that curtain and that person was wearing a yamaka !

      • Sirian

        Hummm, jimmy, you really can’t stand Jews can you?

        • jimmy the greek

          Some are ok my wife’s father was a jew he got disowned by his father a orthodox rabbi for taking a Italian wife . its the zionist that are the troublemakers .

        • eddie47d

          Then don’t insult yourself by attacking Jews,Jimmy! Learn to differentiate between Jews and Zionists.

        • Vigilant

          jimmy has been spreading his antisemitic crap before. Even once claimed the only mistake the Nazis made was not finishing the job.

          Ergo, he’s lower than scum and deserves no credence.

  • Baba

    After Iran tears the drone apart (which was left in-tact) and learns how to use the drone system, sure they might ‘give it back.’ Why the drone did not distruct before landing in Iran is a good question. Certainly that feature could have been installed in each drone. My theory is that the drone was sent to iran to NOT destruct so Iran could use the technology. There is more than one way to get U.S. Secrets into terrorist’s hands. Blunder? I don’t think so.

    • Lost in Paradise

      The drone in the photos, is not real! It looks like a foam and fiberglass mockup, created the best they can from pics of the so-called drone. They say they shot it down. If that really was the case how much would be left, and there would be damage to indicate it was shot down,and of course they could have doctored it up, but come on. It is very unlikely they were able to take control and fly it as it would need to be flown by them like us.Would they get things like ailerons or spoilers cross controlled. On this and the B-2, spoilers take the place of rudders to control yaw. Everything would need to be compatible with ours.At the very moment they took over, there would definitly be a trim problem, and a learning curve learning to fly it. They have had trouble in the past getting there rockets to fly, so where would they get the technology to hack into our drone. I think it is more of their saber rattling than anything.

      Then our government lies to us on a regular basis, as does the media, so how can we know what is really going on.

  • Just Me

    I can’t help but think, what would we do if a “non-friendly” country was flying drones over the US?

    We need to keep our collective noses out of the business of other nations. This is the primary reason so many other countries despise the US.

    The US does NOT need to be the worlds cop.

    • jimmy the greek

      You Got That Right !

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Whizzer

    To all the Ron Paul drones and dumb asses who think that if we just mind our own business that all will be well in the world… you are just willfully ignorant and at best naive. We live in a world that is controlled by the aggresive use of force. To ignore that and pretend like it doesn’t exist would be like living next door to a drug dealer who cooks meth and runs a prostitution & gun running gig out of his living room. Why do you think countries like Canada and European nations invest so little in national defense? Wise up jackasses … it’s because they know the United States will protect them from the despots and crazy Mullahs that want to destroy them if given the chance. So just put that stupid Ron Paul bumper sticker on your 72′ Volvo and go off to your minimum wage job and shut up!

    • jimmy the greek

      Whizzer what is wrong with living next to a drug dealer or a cook them people tend to lay low and not make trouble and never screw with the nabors , better than having someone that called the cops every time they hear a gun shot or a loud motorcycle or see two men fighting ECT.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Hey wizzer you must have been borrowing some of your neihbors dope. I do not believe I have heard anyone saying they would not continue their quest for world domination,but we are definitly the little boy with the stick in the Bees nest. What do you think that will do. You must be the dumbest Wizzer I have ever had the privledge of communicationg with. Ron Paul will do a very good job as president,and will protect and serve as he is supposed to. The others will definitly get us in another quagmire that we cannot win. Do not worry about my spelling. If you love America, and want to help then vote for Ron Paul. Otherwise take a bottle of sleeping pills and have a nice long knap.

  • Bob Marshall

    Americans have never had any trouble in seeing one side of an issue. It is when they see the other side they sometime get offensive. More people need to spend less time on facebook and twitter and more time doing research. Those that dare do research aren’t dumbed down by the lies from the corporate controlled news media. “It is fortunate for the governments that the masses don’t think.” Adolf Hitler.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Whizzer

    Hey Jimmy the “Greek” me thinks you’ve been sodomized too much! You’re anti-Semitism is hanging out your zipper you stupid loser!

    • jimmy the greek

      Arabs are Semitic people to jews and Arabs are of the same bloodline .

    • Joseph

      Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide.

      The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?!

      • jimmy the greek

        The Zionist in Palestine were ready to side with Hitler before 1939 because they hated the british more than the Germans .

    • Joseph

      Hey Whizzer, me thinks you’re a zionist shill.

  • gunner 689

    When the Hell is the DOD going to learn to put self-destruct computer boards into sofisticated items such as this drone ? These devices can be activated by a satellite emitted frequency or self activated when the proper code is not entered into the devise when opening it.
    I would like to think that we planned this “capture” to intergrate faulty data or tech. into the enemies hands but our gvt. isn’t that bright. Maybe if BO gets on his knees and begs they’ll give it back after they’re done evaluating the technology and selling it to the Chinese. It may be newer than the data Clinton sold them when he was POTUS.

    • MRMO

      YOU DON’T HAVE TO GET HIGH TEC., WE HAVE AIR BAGS IN ALL ARE CARS. TAKE AWAY THE BAG FROM THE MEC. REPLACE IT WITH C-4, IF IT GOES DOWN CASE CLOSED. AND ON THE CHEEP AS WELL..

  • Susan

    Gee – wonder why Iran feels it necessary to “protect” its Sovereign Country. I suppose the USA “might” not like it much if another Country were to be flying drones over Our Sovereign Country. And I certainly doubt we’d be inclined to ‘give it back’. (By the way, ARE we still a Sovereign Country, or have we surrendered Our Sovereignty to the United Nations?)

    • jimmy the greek

      Thank You Susan .

  • Dens

    Not only does Iran “control” the spy drone, they also “control” and play play with Obama and Mrs. Clinton like a pair of sock puppets.

  • http://explorer Scout

    This problem with Iran should have been “nipped” long ago. We waited too long to deal with this problem. It’s hard to put out a fire once it’s been allowed to flourish. Now we’re on the back side of the curve. Our so-called leaders have failed US once again. They were too busy making inside trades.It’s total chaos in DC. As in dis-connected.

    • James

      Iran is no threat to the United States. What ‘problem’ are you referring to?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Whizzer

    Yo susan & jimmy da loser – have you not heard Achmadinajihad himself say if he had a nuclear weapon he would wipe Israel off the map? Wise up you ass clowns! Can you connect the dots? If that were to happen how long do you think you would be able to commute to your job, put gas in your car, and buy groceries? You have a very dangerous political myopia.
    FYI – to jimmy da loser …. best go back and read the old Testament Bible account of how the Arab nation came about… it’s a bastard! God himself called the offspring “a stubborn ass (donkey)”

    • Earl

      Whizzzer, There are a few of us on this board who actually have an education, know our history, and prepare ourselves for whatever argument we’re going to make. You show your ignorance for all to see with the worn-out re-hashing of the wipe Israel off the map meme.

      The quote is corrected to say: The Zionist regime must vanish from the pages of time.

      It is a direct translation from Farsi (their language). You jingoistic types are as dangerous to our country with the inflammatory rhetoric as they are. Any attack on Iran will provoke a full response which likely as not set of a chain reaction and WW III. Stop and think before you run with flights of fancy. The next world war will be fought with nukes. The one after that with sticks and stones, get it??

      • Vigilant

        The history-challenged Earl says, “Whizzzer, There are a few of us on this board who actually have an education, know our history, and prepare ourselves for whatever argument we’re going to make. You show your ignorance for all to see with the worn-out re-hashing of the wipe Israel off the map meme.

        “The quote is corrected to say: The Zionist regime must vanish from the pages of time.”

        Oh, I see, that’s different than the surrounding nations not recognizing Israel’s right to exist. I don’t give a damn whether it’s said in Farsi or any other area language; to deny that they don’t want to destroy Israel is as ignorant as it comes.

        Every time the Arabs attacked Israel, you think they were just going to make the “Zionist regime” disappear and then retreat to their borders? What fools you be! Zionism’s aim was always to have a homeland for the Jews, it’s the very ESSENCE of Zionism. So tell me, how do you make Zionism “vanish” without destroying Israel?

        Howard Zinn would be proud of you, you idiot.

        • Joseph

          Vigilant says: So tell me, how do you make Zionism “vanish” without destroying Israel?

          By exposing it for what it truly is; A vampire, feeding on the life-blood of the Jews, Arabs and Gentiles! How else?

          From its’ inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public.

          Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive.

          Further, it would taint the reputation of Jewry as a whole and would cause utter confusion in the Jewish and non-Jewish communities. Judaism is a religion. Judaism is not a race or a nationality. That was and still remains the consensus amongst the rabbis.

          http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.cfm

    • Joseph

      Whizzer says: Yo susan & jimmy da loser – have you not heard Achmadinajihad himself say if he had a nuclear weapon he would wipe Israel off the map?

      Orthodox Jews the world over, are saddened by the hysteria which has greeted the recent stated desire of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to see a world free of Zionism. This desire is nothing more than a yearning for a better, more peaceful world. It is a hope that with the elimination of Zionism, Jews and Muslims will live in harmony as they have throughout the ages, in Palestine and throughout the world.

      It is a dangerous distortion, to see the President’s words, as indicative of anti-Jewish sentiments. The President was simply re-stating the beliefs and statements of Ayatollah Khomeini, who always emphasized and practiced the respect and protection of Jews and Judaism. The political ideology of Zionism alone was rejected. President Ahmadinejad stressed this distinction by referring only to Zionism, not Judaism or the Jewish people, regardless of whether they reside in Palestine or else were.

      We concur!!… Orthodox Jews have always prayed and till today, continually pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state. As per the teachings of the Torah, the Jewish law, the Jewish people are required to be loyal, upstanding citizens, in all of the countries where-in they reside. They are expressly forbidden to have their own entity or state in any form or configuration, in this Heavenly decreed exile.

      Furthermore, the exemplification of one-self, with acts of compassion and goodness, is of the essence of Judaism. To subjugate and oppress a people, to steal their land, homes and orchards etc. is of the cardinal sins, of the basics crimes, forbidden by the Torah.

      http://www.nkusa.org/activities/statements/2005Oct28Iran.cfm

    • James

      What does Israel have to do with gasoline and groceries?

  • chuckb

    something tells me barry has no problem with iran recovering our highly classified technology, he didn’t shed any tears about the helicopter left behind on the bin laden raid. could it be barry wants the muslims to have this technology? he doesn’t seem concerned the brotherhood is taking over egypt, libya and yemen. in fact i don’t think he would mind installing sharia law over the u.s.

  • Golddad

    They are not going to give the plane back to doofus, they have his number and could care less!!!!

  • Larry Owens

    Please Iran give Odumbo’s plane back he is being nice. I feel really safe with odumbo standing up to those iranians, he will send the gay army over there and really Scare them. (My apologies to the Real men and women in uniform).

  • jimmy the greek

    We can send in the gay unit first with AIDs tipped spears ! The unit can be called : Queers with Spears behind them we can send in the mechanized unit of lesbians , They Can be called Dyke’s on bikes . Oh yes i can see it now them there Persians well be Quaking in there Nike’s

    • Vigilant

      Pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic, and now homophobic. What other mental illness lingers in that undersized cranium of yours?

      • jimmy the greek

        sorry me speaking badly of the homo’s upset you .

  • Joseph

    The political definition of a Semite is one who is a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs. It is one who is a descendant of these people. They are a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.

    Did you notice the number of groups? Four not One! These four groups make up the Semitic peoples of the earth. I have already checked the following out in two dictionaries. The term Anti-Semitic is used only of those who dislike or hate Jews, or as a weapon against whoever the Jews don’t like.

    Hey, wait a minute, there are four groups who are considered Semitic. If I hate the Arabs it is not Anti-Semitism but if I hate the Jews it is? Someone is selling the literary world a bill of goods in the dictionaries. If the Semitic people are comprised of four groups, then any hate toward any group needs to be classified as Anti-Semitism. Therefore, if the Jews hate the Arabs, then they are being Anti-Semitic, if the Phoenicians hate the Akkadians, it is Anti-Semitism. Eclectic definitions of Anti-Semitism must not be tolerated in favor of one race.

    It is obvious then that the term Anti-Semitism has been fostered on the non-thinking public as only alluding to the Jews which makes the modern definition a well-planned deception.

    http://www.rense.com/general75/trcv.htm

    • jimmy the greek

      Thank you Joseph You done your home work well .

  • Joseph

    Neturei Karta is always committed to voice the traditional Religious Jewish opposition to the philosophy of Zionism and the existence of the state of “Israel”.

    According to the Torah teachings, Jews are in exile by divine decree. They are forbidden to leave exile and create their own state by physical means. Secondly, Jewish law forbids Jews to rebel against any other nations. Jews are required to be loyal citizens in the countries in which they reside. Hence, the state of “Israel” is forbidden.

    The creation of the state of “Israel” transgresses these and other basic principles of Torah law. It was established on the land of others, totally against the will of its indigenous population, the Palestinian people, with endless and continuous oppression of its people, including murder, brutal beating, confiscation of their properties and baseless imprisonment etc.

    Therefore religious Jewish leaders have always and continually oppose Zionism and the state of Israel. They predicted that only tragedy and bloodshed will be its result, G-d should protect us.

    The state of “Israel” has no right to rule over any part of the Holy Land. The entire land should be restored to the indigenous Palestinian people, with the Almighty’s help, peacefully.

    In reference to the current tragic situation in Gaza, Neturei Karta in Jerusalem issued several documents to clarify the religious Torah position against the crimes committed by the state of “Israel” and to express that the state of “Israel” should not exist and does not represent the traditional Jewish community.

    (Read letter to Honorable Doctor Mamoud Al-Zahar from Neturei Karta USA and Canada.)

    Following is a letter that was sent to the Secretary General of the United Nations.

    http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/20080123.cfm

    • bob wire

      Thank you Joseph for explaining this,~ this religious mental masturbation that has consumed so many minds there will never be any hope for peace until the day comes not one stone sit atop another.

      Some good comes of it,~ it keeps the population down and there is this “feel good” false sense of righteous and rightfulness to it all that afford comfort in a sea of chaos and mayhem. Why must the be any need of enticement of reward for living a clean human experience?

      Not to suggest there is no Divine, but only that religion is a construct of man and shares his weakness. He is a proud animal. The Divine has no use or need of pride in all it’s many manifested forms. You life is your reward for the better or the worst of it.

      • Joseph

        bob wire says: Not to suggest there is no Divine, but only that religion is a construct of man and shares his weakness. He is a proud animal. The Divine has no use or need of pride in all it’s many manifested forms. You life is your reward for the better or the worst of it.

        The best of your comment, Mr. Wire, well stated!

    • James

      Joseph, Back when all Israelites were under King David, in Palestine, the Lord told Nathan the prophet to tell David this (2 Sam. 7:10): “Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime.”
      This ‘place of their own’ can’t possibly be in Palestine, because that’s where Israel was when the Lord’s promise was made. And if from this place they will ‘move no more’ then Israelites would never return to Palestine.

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