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DHS And Its War On ‘White Terror’

July 22, 2011 by  

DHS And Its War On ‘White Terror’

The War on Terror, at least as a name, is over, but the war on white Americans by the Department of Homeland Security is in full stride.

We’ve reported before here and here how the DHS has targeted Tea Party members, Ron Paul supporters, military veterans and gun owners as potential terrorists and encouraged Americans to spy on each other. The narrative, of course, is that these are all white people angry over the election of a black man as President and there is no telling what they might do.

The video below demonstrates exactly how DHS feels about white Americans. It encourages Americans to report “suspicious” behavior as they watch for terrorists, and all but one or two of the people demonstrating potential suspicious behavior is white. And nearly all the “patriotic” Americans who report suspicious behavior belong to a minority group. Where are the civil liberty groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Southern Preposterous Lie Center (SPLC) and the NAACP decrying this obvious racism?

Of course, they can’t be bothered. But you can be sure that if the “terrorists” depicted appeared to be Arab or Muslim or black or any other minority, CAIR, the NAACP, the SPLC or some other race-hustling group would be front and center, shouting “racism” at the top of their lungs.

Hat tip: Prisonplanet.com

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://none Jeryl

    Class warfare is necessary to fragment our society so that a minority of voters can control the democracy. Sad thing is, and I know that most conservatives realize this, democracies were an anathema to the Founding Fathers. They gave us a Judeo-Christian Democratic Republic. What we have now is a neo-paganistic democracy.

    • Stan

      The Founders did not give us a ‘democratic-republic’, that’s an oxymoron. They gave us a Constitutional Republic, which is the complete opposite. The Founders fully understood that basic, unalienable rights can NEVER be held hostage to a majority vote, which is nothing more than mob rule, or as we’re taught to call it:’democracy’ in action. Democracy of any kind, under any guise (socialism, Fascism, Nazism, communism) is simply the looting of those who produce by those who don’t. In the end, the only things that citizens of a Republic should vote on, outside of electing Constitutionally restrained people to public office, are things that don’t matter, like speed limits.

      • Loyalhound

        Very well said, gypsy. If only more than a handful would listen.

        • FreedomFighter

          Please read the communist handbook for Radicals. Progressive liberals the new name for communist/socialist or Marxist for short pit race against race, religion vs religion – divide and manipulate.

          Also look at whom is being targeted:

          Ron Paul – pure constition as our founding fathers wanted it, low tax, small goverment – definitly anti-communist

          Tea Party – low tax, less regulation, small goverment, constitional oriented-anti-comunist/socialist

          Our veteran soldiers, men and women willing to pay the ultimate price for our freedoms-top of enemy list for these Marxist Progressives.

          Then look at whom the Progressives are protecting — Marxist revolutionaly groups.

          Its all upside down for a reason – they the Marxist/Progressives want to take over and they fear the American Patriot.

          They want a civil war, they want chaos, a divided America will fall.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • DC/Tex

            Very well said!

          • GiveAwayJimmie

            Well said—-unfortunate that “Big Sis” does not understand value of our Republic.

          • skip

            The Norwegian guy’s manifesto, and his actions, sound to be in perfect harmony with everything you guys are saying. Do you think he was on the right track? A lot of your positions are exactly the same as his, and I assume that all of you are not high on heroin, as some of you say. There is little doubt that someone who has the tendency to act on his obsession with guns, the right to kill those with whom he does not agree, his concern about those who aren’t just like him taking away his personal freedoms, is prone to gain a lot of power and stimulation from what you say on blogs like these.

          • Kate8

            skip – Funny, but the rhetoric coming from Leftist outlets is far more nasty, radical and violent than anything from here.

            People aren’t incited to commit mayhem by blog sites. They do it because they are sick, or acting on someone else’s behalf.

            It is a trick to use violence and other incidents to further an agenda. We should never be convinced that giving up our free speech or gun rights) is necessary to avoid violent acts, because it won’t. Countries with no free speech still have violence. The people just don’t have a voice or a way to protect themselves.

            BTW, isn’t Norway gun-free?

            Goes to show.

        • Kate8

          It’s no mis-speak that virtually everyone heard over the media these days refers to our nation as a “democracy”. This includes so-called conservative voices from whom we should expect better.

          It’s another case of saying something over and over until it becomes accepted as true.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            I have heard them continuously demand that other countries change to a democracy.Either they don’t know the differance (which may be)or they want them to fail.

          • Kate8

            Dan az – Surely they do know the difference.

            I’m beginning to think that everything they say and do is carefully calibrated toward a desired result. It’s just too coincidental that they ALL say the same things.

            I don’t think every member of Congress is a genius. Not by a long shot. In fact, I think they are easily influenced folks with their own issues to deal with, and they try to calculate their every move to please the most influencial people. That’s why they are so easily manipulated.

          • pete the simian

            The Founding Fathers took a gamble on a Republic –
            Scientifically speaking – The Republican form of government right now doesn’t work..

            Now if we HAD A DEMOCRACY we could vote out them idiots faster in the government ….

          • Kate8

            Pete – How on Earth did you come up with that notion?

          • vicki

            Pete. You want democracy? I will show you democracy in action. I saw it live and direct on tv just the other day.

            I watched about 15 people get together and vote on what to do with a pickup truck. They voted 14-1 to tear it apart. The truck was then dis assembled. They then voted (14-1) to make a bonfire with the truck. The truck burned.
            They then voted (14-1 :) ) to beat up the driver. The driver was later taken to the hospital.

            Democracy had come to the land of the Pharaoh.

            Watch this youtube video about Democracy.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

          • Old Henry

            Thanks Vicki. That was an outstanding link! I shared it with several of my friends.

      • nosferotica

        Learn your history, Stan. Thomas Jefferson himself was of the “Democratic Republic Party.” The Republic chose their representation, and the representation through Democracy passed legislation. Of course, this lasted only til about the 1800s when they splintered off and Andrew Jackson became the first Democrat President and Abe Lincoln became the first Republican, beating the south into submission and forced association with the Fed.

        As you can see, it was far from an “oxymoron,” considering it was all one party.

        • Vic

          If you’ve learned your history well you should know that by design far from everybody had a right to vote originally. Only those, who were supposed to have vested interest in the prosperity of the land, i.e. house/land owners. That was the design of the Founding Fathers, not stinking “democracy”, that’s what is different between Republic and mob rule.

          And there’s a reason for this. All those who are living on a government handouts are in the government pocket. Particularly with respect of elections. Those are no more than bloodsucking parasites on the body of the Taxpayer. Allowed to vote they will always vote to immobilize the host so they could suck the host’s blood with impunity, and that will only get worse and worse until host die.

          Right now there are 30-40 millions of them in the country, think about that! That number is enough to swing any election, Obama have won with less…

          • pete the simian

            Vic,

            Your figure is quite low, just about everybody is benefiting from socialism in some way or ANOTHER. Probably 90 percent of our population ….

        • stan

          I have learned my history, very well in fact., Apparently you haven’t. When Ben Franklin was asked what kind of government the Constitutional Convention gave us, he replied, “a Republic, if you can keep it.”
          The Founders made a conscious decision to reject the Greek version of democracy, understanding it to be inherently unstable: just look at Italy of most of Europe for proof. They selected a Republic based on the early Roman version. The Constitution they gave us was clearly designed and intended to grant certain limited and specific powers to the federal government, keeping most all other activities out of their reach. This is why they intended to ‘…bind them (governments to come) down in with the chains of the Constitution…’
          There can be no doubt as to the intent of the Founders either. The intent can be found in the Declaration of Independence, so there’s no need to try to divine what they had in mind. In that Founding document the signers made clear that free people accrue rights as individuals from Natural Law, not from any man made government. No longer would free people suffer at the mercy or whims of royalty or potentates. They also made clear that the only authority government has is that given to government by a free people. Unalienable rights are always outside the power of government to control. And clearly, no government has the authority to create ‘group rights’ out of thin air, or at the whim of the mob. So there is no role for the federal government to transfer wealth, enforce economic ‘fairness’, ‘justice’ or any such nonsense for any reason what so ever We’ve seen what happens in those circumstances; see Nazi Germany or any communist country. It can not be tolerated in America. Period.

          • pete the simian

            Stan,

            Rome developed into an EMPIRE. THE ROMAN EMPIRE where the CAESARS RULED…
            I guess our first Caesar doesn’t like white honky crackers ……

      • Shirley Starling

        Racism???? What in the ell does race have to do with anything since Sept. 11, 2001???
        We, legal citizens of this country, are The People that our constitution was written for. I don’t give a hoot what color we are or from what origin we came we are AMERICANS.
        I said this “in jest” during the last campaign……. “It is time for us to Unite……All of US …..It’s time for the Navajos to take our hand and it’s time for us to take the hand of the nappy headed hoes (that was during the time of the women’s basketball incident) hand and the Idahoes hand…..you get the picture. Well, I’m saying it again…….

        It’s time for US to UNITE. Remember this “United We Stand”, “Divided We Fall”. I never see that I just see the United We stand part.

        We are the People….for the People, by the People. We have been sleeping folks. Our President is not a “black man” in his heart he is a Muslim. His wife is a black woman so there is some hope, lol.

        He is a wonderful speaker and has a great speech writer.
        Dr. Paul on the other hand doesn’t have a speech writer he is telling it like it is. That’s why someone on one of these post sites said he should just record one of his interviews and replay it becuase he always the same thing…….Duh!!!! He has been saying the same for 30 years. We can depend on it.

        With the other candidates we can depend on them doing what the special interest tell them too because they are owned by them. Dr. Paul is not, he is our candidate. Lets support him in every way we can. Bumper sticker drives would be a good thing $5.00 each. Every American should give Dr. Paul $5.00 but it’s hard to do without a debit card and even then it’s a pain to do it for some of US.

        • hicusdicus

          We did not elect a black president. We elected a fraud, a Manchurian candidate. His handlers are the driving force with their own agenda and only they know what it is. Our only salvation is that he would turn on them but he has not got enough smarts to pull it off even if he wanted to. Get prepared its about ready to hit the fan.

          • Thinking About

            Get over it Obama has been elected President of the United States and no amount of tabloid reporting or bashing will change this fact. You can keep crying and whining staying up at night but when you look out the next day Obama will still have been elected.

          • pete the simian

            …..AND RE-ELECTED IN 2012 because the American Voter is basically a retard with suicidal tendencies …….

          • Dan az

            Think about this
            Your muslim prince hates this culture and is trying his best to destroy it.Why would you dim wits think otherwise? Lets take what he says about the koran as his bible and put it out on the table.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg&feature=related
            Now I know that you wont believe anything I say but this is from his own purple lipped mouth.How about his queen bee saying that this contry sucks.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TUqS-Vs0Qs&feature=related
            Oh is that a shocker for you mental midgets?Like I said why would you think he is only trying to help you poor little dim wits?Now go out and play while we adults talk and stop disturbing us!

          • Kate8

            Pete – The way the voting is rigged these days, if Obama wins in 2012 (and many predict that he will) we will never know whether he was duly elected by the People or reinstalled by the PTB.

            This is actually another part of the planned collapse: cause the populace to distrust their government.

      • EddieW

        Stan…your right on!!! We need to vote not Rpuublican or Democrat, we need to vote in only those who will stand for the Constitution!!
        Congress would love to kill it, the “supreme”Court is trying to kill it! The Pentagon wants the Constitution obilterated!! We need only those in washington who truly support it, we have so many of both parties who do not. Remember? Even GWBush called it a G.. Dammed piece of paper!!! as he bent to destroy it!!

      • Crystal

        I don’t mean to laugh at the truth, but your ending was quite humorous.

      • independant thinker

        I must dissagree Stan. We are democratic in that we vote for those who represent us in city councils, state offices, and especialy in national offices. We are a republic in that those who represent us are SUPPOSED to be limited by the constitution in their and by extension the governments power.

        • stan

          Hi independent thinker,

          You’re right, but that’s what I pointed out. We can, and should vote for local officials with all kinds of views. If a states wants to be a ‘laboratory’ for something, say, welfare, fine, I can move out. The key point has to be the ability NOT to participate. On a local or state level we can do it. When the fed’s impose their will on us we can’t escape. We’re like slaves, we’re ‘needed’, they can’t ‘…let us go…’. Only now (for a while) ‘we’ may be allowed to live in the nicest house on the plantation, but we must stay there. That’s not acceptable. Not is it acceptable to be told: “We all voted and you have to (fill in the blank)”. That’s democracy in action, ‘we’ voted, you ‘have to …’. That’s not acceptable.

          • mark

            Yes but this is why we have a Supreme Court. That body often calls illegal and unConstitutional various laws and policies that are enormously popular and passed by local governments and by the U.S. Congress. If for instance following another major Islamic terror attack on the United States, a majority of Americans in state referendums voted to deport all Muslim U.S. citizens, and the Congress after receiving millions of letter in support of this policy concurred, the Supreme Court would strike those measures down. That is part of the Court’s job to act as brake against democratically approved yet unConstitutional laws and policies. Of course the Supreme Court has often failed in its Constitutional duties such as allowing the detention of 120,000 Japanese-Americans during World War II. This was an overwhelmingly popular action by the Federal Gov’t. Both liberals and conservatives applauded it wildly. It was also clearly unConstitutional to deny citizens their Constitutional rights and property without due process.

          • Bleh

            “Yes but this is why we have a Supreme Court.” – mark

            You mean the same SCOTUS that perverts the Constitution seemingly at will?
            Remember “Wickard v. Filburn”, the case that Gives the Feds the ability to destroy crops intended for personal use?
            Why hasn’t SCOTUS struck down the Patriot Act?
            You cannot trust them to always do what is right.

      • mark

        Right, this is why the Founding Fathers believed so passionately in the benefits of slavery and property qualifications for voters, and in restricting the vote to males only. You are correct, the Founding Fathers DID NOT believe in democracy. That is why the United States is such a reviled nation around the world. We preach democracy and boast about our great democratic society but we are the only major advanced nation in the world that does not elect its prime political leader democratically but rather through the Electoral College – a device created by the Founding Slaveholders to prevent the people – or the mob – as you call them, from directly electing their principal leader. The problem with this theory is that it breaks down at every other political office: governor, mayor, senator (not directly elected until 1913), representative, state assemblyman, city alderman, etc. They are all democratically elected. But if the Founding Slaveholders had their way all these positions would also be elected through some elite-controlled mechanism like the Electoral College rather than letting ordinary working men and woman have any say in the matter. It wasn’t that the Founding Slaveholders were against voting per se. They just felt that only the RIGHT KIND of people should be allowed to vote: upper class and middle class, property-owning white males. All other should simply follow the dictates of their slaveholding betters – the glorious Founding Fathers. Also the poor and the property-less, though they should not be allowed to vote, would make up the bulk of the U.S. military’s rank-and-file where they could fight and die for a system that gave them no or little benefit. In large measure we have a similar system today. And those poor, working-class, and lower-middle class volunteers (cynics call them suckers) who fight and die for our capitalist and imperialist system seem quite pleased with it. And good for them, too! After all, they get nice cemeteries and hospitals, gov’t paid wheelchairs and mechanical arms and legs – and if they live, they get some benefits and pensions too.

        • Kate8

          mark – But if we went by strictly popular vote, eliminating the electoral college, we’d have a few densely populated coastal cities determining presidential elections. The mid-states would not have a voice at all.

          This would insure that democrats always win. You will notice that it’s only democrats who want this.

          • mark

            Under a popular election for president, very single vote from the Midwest would count just as much as every vote from an East or West coast citizen. Under such a system, urban voters would not be allowed to have two votes apiece but only one vote like every rurally based citizen. Most people think that the person who gets the most popular votes should win the election. But this does not happen in some cases in the U.S. presidential contest. In 2000 the second highest popular vote getter, George W. Bush won over Al Gore who received one half million more popular votes. Can you imagine the reaction next year if Barak Obama received a million less votes than his GOP opponent yet still wins the election?! But this is possible under our sytems which many feel is an absolute travesty. For this we can thank the Founding Slaveholders who distrusted popular deomcracy.

          • Kate8

            mark – You Lefties seem to ignore that Clinton won office even though he didn’t have the majority of the popular vote. I have never heard a single one of you complain about that.

            It’s happened both ways, so why the big deal about Bush? It seems that the name of the game to you Lefties is that if you win, it’s fair, and if you don’t, you throw tantrums.

            Kind of like spoiled brats.

        • DaveH

          The checks and balances set up by the Constitution were intended to keep the Federal Government from turning into the all-powerful central state that befell so many other countries prior to the time of our well-educated founders. They knew that the farther away Government got from the people, the less representative it would be. So they tried to keep The Federal Government in check by first making States Sovereign over the Federal Government, and then developing the three branches of the Federal Government.
          They established the Legislative Branch to make the laws, the Executive Branch to enforce the laws, and the Judicial Branch to judge the Constitutionality of the laws. The States also had the power to judge the Constitutionality of the laws, because our Founders knew that the allegiance of the Supreme Court would be to the Federal Government to the detriment of the Sovereign States.
          The Legislative Branch is Congress, composed of the House of Representatives, and the Senate. In their wisdom, the founders created the House to represent the people, and the Senate to represent the States. The Senators were chosen by the State Legislatures. This was so the allegiance of the Senators would be to the States, rather than the Federal Government. The Seventeenth Amendment thwarted that safeguard, and anybody who watches the Senate Votes knows that they now usually vote in favor of Big Federal Government, much more so than the House where the representatives are local to their voters. The Big Central Government lovers knew exactly what they were doing when they passed the Seventeenth Amendment.
          In fact, those who aspired to power have been twisting and turning the meaning of the Constitution since it was created to enable them to create the Big Central Government that they knew would give them more power over the people.
          As Jefferson said “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground”

        • etexfisherman48

          Mark that is right and it is because they knew…a government that is anxious to give alms to as many people as possible is even more anxious to commandeer their earnings. Witness, through Federal, State, and local taxes, a man/woman pays 40% or better of their income in taxes. One might ask, “Why have we become a nation of such horrific lawlessness?” One of the main reasons is when the state becomes the violator of liberty and property rather than its guarantor; it debases respect for all law.
          People in society develop an increasing disrespect and disregard for what the law demands. They view the law as the agent for immorality in the form of legalized plunder for the benefit of some at the expense of others, and this same disrespect and disregard sooner or later starts to creep into dealings between individuals (trickle-down theory). Society verges on the brink of lawlessness. Stop and think, when individuals began to ask government to do things for them, rather than merely to secure rights and property, they began asking government to violate others rights and property for their benefit.
          Furthermore, Free market capitalism demands that private owners be left alone to use their land as they choose. Only in a Socialist, Communist, or Dictatorship form of government can government arbitrarily take control of the use of private property.
          In a study done by Dixie Lee Ray, he noted that throughout the history of great democratic nations, they endured about 200 years before their fall from power and subsequent disintegration. In every case there appears to be a clear-cut sequence of stages:
          From bondage to spiritual faith
          From faith to great courage
          From courage to liberty
          From liberty to abundance
          From abundance to complacency
          From complacency to selfishness
          From selfishness to apathy
          From apathy to dependency
          And from dependency back again into bondage

          Do you see the United States somewhere in this sequence? Has our great country been so compromised and corrupted that we’re now willing to march in lock step to our doom in the footsteps of other fallen nations? A British historian Alexander Tyler once said, “ A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government; they will only exist until the people find that they can vote money for themselves from the treasury and until the politicians find that they can distribute that money in order to buy votes and perpetuate themselves in power. Hence, democracies always collapse over weak fiscal policy to be followed by a dictatorship.

          • mark

            Yes but many times in our history, in our so-called golden era as you see it, free market capitalists took other people’s land and property frequently at the point of the gun. This property belonged to Amerindians, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans (we still hold Guantanamo Bay – a clearly foreign occupied imperialist territory that belongs to the Cuban people just as Gibraltar belongs to Spain not Great Britain), Puerto Ricans, Panamanians, native Hawaiians, Filipinos, Chamorros (inhabitants of Guam), etc. Free market capitalism has always been linked to Western imperialism and the seizure of other peoples land and resources by threat and force. Let’s not sanctify and glorify our system, large components of which consists in taking weaker people’s property from them by force. Our government now does the same to its own citizens but this emanates from a grand capitalist tradition of which monopoly, price gougeing, and manipulation of the market by so-called captains in industry from the post Civil War period to the New Deal is also part of our historic capitalist legacy.

          • JC

            mark says:
            July 24, 2011 at 10:33 am
            Yes but many times in our history, in our so-called golden era as you see it, free market capitalists took other people’s land and property frequently at the point of the gun.
            ____________________________________________________________

            Wrong! Government sponsored imperialism was responsible for these actions. Just as it is today…

      • sidewinderaz

        Well put Stan. I cringe whenever people refer to the USA as a democracy. I just want to scream “It’s a Constitutional Republic you moron!” whenever when I hear it.
        Maybe that’s what I should start doing.

        • mark

          OK but every single political office in our nation EXCEPT FOR THE PRESIDENCY is elected through popular democratic elections. Virtually all the rights in our Constitution and in our Declaration of Independence are what the ancient Greeks who also had republics defined as DEMOCRATIC rights. We are in fact a democratic republic. Our form of goverment is much more DEMOCRATIC today than it was in 1787, nonproperty holders of both sexes and any race can now vote and hold office. The Founding Slaveholders would not recognize our government today as a Republic by their standards. To most of them the true repubican nature of our government died in the 1820s and 1830s when various states dropped the property qualifications for white male voting. To the Founding Slaveholders this amounted to a descent to Mobocracy as many wrote in their dotage. When the North won the Civil War and abolished slavery the Founding Slaveholder must have been rolling in their graves at this horror. This would also be true in 1913 when the 17th amendment allowed U.S. senators to be elected democratically. Then came obscene 19th amendment that allowed women to vote – a development that conservatives fiercely resisted and decried as the death of the Republic at the time. Finally the 1964 and 1965 civil rights legislation which guaranteed African Americans their civil rights and voting rights in the South and border states through federal enforcement over state law and practices complete the democratic trajectory. To true libertarians the United States long failed to constitute a true republic where only property holders can vote and hold office. So the U.S. is much more democratic today except for the lone hold-out of the Presidency and the Electoral College, the last stand of the Founding Slaveholders’ repubican ideals.

    • Sue B

      I believe that Obama, his handlers, and his followers are taking lessons from Hitler. This is the sort of thing the nazi party began to do.

    • CJM

      Excuse me, Jeryl, but a PAGAN would never stoop so low as you imply; as a matter of fact, PAGAN’s are decent, law-abiding folks who are extremely patriotic. One has never heard of a movement towards “pagan supremacy,’ but we certainly have where both caucasians and negros have. Yes, you call them ‘blacks and whites,’ the truth is, there is no such race because ‘black and white’ designates coloration. If you want to smear a particular group, then smear those among the blacks and whites who demand the entitlement of being the “supreme race,” and leave us PAGANS alone–we aren’t that stupid because we recognize that only the Ultimate Creator is Supreme…evidently, you don’t!

      • independant thinker

        “but a PAGAN would never stoop so low as you imply;”

        WRONG. There are those in every group who would stoop that low or even lower however I do agree that most pagans are just like the rest of the people.

    • etexfisherman48

      Outstanding Jeryl. Get your message out everywhere because people need to be jolted by your understanding of the situation

  • Warrior

    Hence, that is why we need to have the TSA. Everyone, except “elites” must become submissive.

    • Dan az

      warrior
      Paper’s please.Sound familiar!

  • JimH

    As a hererosexual, Caucasian, Christian, Pro-life,NRA member, I’m probably on the list.
    If they’re as good at watching me as they are at keeping track of Humas and Hezbola, I’m not to worried.

    • DC/Tex

      I am on the same list with you.
      “O”ne “B”ig “A”ss “M”istake “A”merica
      I say this, not because of the color of his skin, because of his policies, and is a lying fraud.

    • Average Joe

      I guess that I am on the lists too…notice that I said …lists….plural.
      I wonder if I’m on the A list or the B list?….I try to strive for perfection in everything ;)

      • etexfisherman48

        Joe unfortunately the reason they can’t catch the people that need catching is because they are expounding all their energies snooping on “we the people”. You know, this is America and we shouldn’t even be having this discussion about being on their list but I reckon we can’t ignore reality can we? That’s what happens when Americans don’t pay attention to what is happening to their country.
        Success in politics in this country has come down to who wins the sound bite. That’s how little attention the average Joe pays to serious issues. You are paying attention and are not one of the average Joe’s so change your name to something else. Think about it, our destiny as a nation hinges on such a thing media soundbites. That’s ridiculous isn’t it?

    • skip

      You souind like the twin brother of the Norwegian mass murderer – precisely the same sentiments. Do we want American to be composed of 360 million just like you? No one alive at the end of the day!!

      • Kate8

        skip – You sound like a Left-wing zealot.

  • Violet Angel

    where is the video?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Violet Angel,

      Apparently there was a glitch. Now you can click the link at the end of the story.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • pete the simian

        Bob,

        Good video … I’m wondering how long is it going to be when people start “ratting” out people they don’t like…..Y’Know what I mean – in other words making up stuff to get someone they don’t like arrested. No more speedy trials, a person can be in jail for years before a mess like that gets straightened out …

        • Christin

          pete the simian,

          Well, with videos like that being spread around… not too long.

          Wow, was I surprised at all the ‘whites’ portrayed as the criminal elements or terrorists…
          And all the ‘ethnic groups’ being portrayed as the ‘good’ narcs or snitches…

          Do you remember right after obam took office and Janet Napolitano was named as head of ‘homeland security’ and she came out with the “Terrorist Pamphlet” which was showed on TV… I was floored… it said, “Veterans, Gun owners, Patriotic Americans, Religious Christians, those not for Abortions, and maybe whites were on there… couldn’t believe they were already planning this back then… they knew “We the People”… Constitutional Conservative Christian, Hard working Tax paying Middle Americans… would NOT go for this Progressive agenda to pave the way to the NWO for satan.

    • DanB

      That’s what I was wondering.

  • David Patton

    That is because the “Wants of a few over rule the Common Sense of the many” If you say anything against them then your a Rasist and they can do the same and claim your violating their right to free speach.

    • Crystal

      As a black woman I must say, people have got to stop being afraid to speak out. If I were a white man I would go completely off. I’d hold nothing back. This should have been geared toward “Jihadist” not American citizens.

      Take a page out of the notebook of Florida’s Representative Allen West.

      • DaveH

        I agree, Crystal. Political correctness just leads to suppressed feelings which ultimately erupt in unpredictable ways. It’s best that we have open conversations and try to work things out.

        • newton

          DAVE. YOU LEFT ONE THING OUT ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. HOW ABOUT A DENIAL OF REALITY. ONE WELL KNOWN ATHELETE DESCRIBED WHAT HE SAW EACH TIME HE RODE A SUBWAY IN NEW YORK. DOPEHEADS, METH HEADS, DRUNKS, OPENLY DISGUSTING HOMOSEXUALS WITHOUT ANY CLASS. GANG BANGERS, CRAZY SCARY PEOPLE. EXHIBIONIST, POOR HOMELESS PEOPLE AND I DONT REMEMBER WHAT ELSE. HIS INTENTION I BELIEVE WAS NOT TO DILIBRATLY HURT ANYONES FELLINGS HE JUST SPOKE THE TRUTH AS HE SAW IT. HE WAS HEAVILY REPREMANDED AND REQUIRED TO TAKE SENSETIVITY CLASSES

          • Average Joe

            ve posted this before, but here goes…..

            Politically correct:

            An over zealous media,trying to convince an under-educated audience….that is entirely possible to pick up a turd…by the “clean end”.

            The problem as I see it is….the under-educated audience….has bought it…….hook,line and stinker……

          • Kate8

            AverageJoe – Seems pretty right on to me.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Actually,I will go a step further….”politically correct is the gubments way of telling you,that the tapered ends of a turd are that way so that,your fingers wont get”as”dirty while you are eating it.”The media just force feeds you the whole thing at once,neccesitating no sAnitary napkin of any sort.-CC.

      • Kate8

        Crystal – Pitting races against one another has all been part of the plan to destroy America. They worked years to get PC in place. I remember when it started…we all thought it was a joke. Well, it’s not funny anymore.

        The Left has also worked hard to instil in all races the idea that the white man is to blame for every world ill. It’s been ingrained through entitlement programs as well as education. Many whites even buy into the guilt.

        Now we have a country full of militants who just await the signal to rise up. Anger toward whites is considered “justice”. Conservatives, especially whites, are being set up to be considered enemies of the state.

        Thank God there are those like you who see through this. Racism is encouraged among all but whites, for whom it is not only forbidden, but criminal. All this has done is to create resentment and anger where it doesn’t need to exist. The worst part is that if any white even tries to have a discussion about it, he is silenced by accusations of racism, so people invariably run from talking about it at all.

        As in any human dealings, not being able to talk about problems creates a powder keg just ready to be lit. I do believe that has been the whole idea.

        • JeffH

          Kate8, Hear Hear :)

        • Dan az

          Kate
          You are so right.When it was just Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson we would just laugh at them.But know that its the prez its gone to far.

          • Carlucci

            New definition of a “racist”:

            Anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.

          • JeffH

            Carlucci :)

          • Kate8

            Carlucci – I think you hit the nail on the head!

            Good one!

          • Dan az

            Carlucci
            That should be a bumper sticker.LMAO! :)

        • DaveH

          They aren’t trying to Destroy America. They are simply doing whatever it takes to acquire and grow their positions of power. It is human nature for politicians to seek larger Government, thus more power and perks. If they could do that while creating a robust economy they would. But it just so happens that Governments don’t create robust economies, the private sector does.
          So by growing their Power and Perks, they inevitably worsen our economy. No conspiracy needed.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – Just as I have not researched Lincoln enough to be able to comment much about him, you have not well-researched the topic of conspiracy. You have just decided that it doesn’t exist.

            Well, I have researched it, and in great depth for many years. Whether or not anyone wants to believe it exists (and many don’t), the fact is that there has been a larger plan afoot since the inception of this nation, and it is now coming into fruition.

            There are many here besides me who are aware of this to one degree or another. The truth is that, whatever the real Truth is, we in America have been had, and have been none-the-wiser.

            You told me that I shouldn’t make statements that I cannot prove, and yet, my statements are no less “provable” than any, depending on where you want to look. No one can “prove” Lincoln’s intent for things he did, either, but we can only see the results and try to make judgements. Also, he had his part to play in the greater plan, no doubt.

            This is a complex world, and we, individually, only get a glimpse through a keyhole from which to form our system of beliefs. That is why we need each other, so we can all bring to the table that which we garner from our own perspective, in order for a greater picture to begin to take shape.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – I just got this. I think you will find it fascinating. I sure did.

            http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/government-corruption/the-poisoning-of-americas-soul.html

            And it’s from the horse’s mouth.

          • DaveH

            But you did comment on Lincoln, and in so doing supported a rabid dog attack by a closed minded person who chose to denigrate me instead of sticking to the facts.
            I have never denied that there are conspiracies. You know that. But as I’ve said before most of the leaders are doing what leaders do — Feathering their own nests. I don’t call that a conspiracy. I call it human nature. I stick to things I can prove easily. If you want to influence people, you have to stick to subject matter that is easy to demonstrate. Otherwise you set yourself up for emotional attacks by people who have no scruples and thus use personal attacks for their debating tools. Kind of like the creep you supported.
            Much smaller Government would take care of the things you worry about without all the anguish of trying to prove the unprovable. That’s why I vote Libertarian.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – I only supported Vigilant’s right to his own ideas, and I only commented that authors all have their own biases. I never once said your assertions weren’t true, I just allowed for the possibility that they might not be entirely accurate in context.

            In any case, during my other searches, I’ve discovered that Lincoln was, indeed, part of this FreeMasonic cult, and had his assignment to perform as POTUS. I also learned that during Inauguration days, presidents go through a occult ceremony supposedly transforming them into the god Osirus, just as the ancient Egyptians did with pharaohs.

            It seems that American history is not at all what we’ve been led to believe. Not even close.

            Here is a very well-researched accounting of our American heritage:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB3ltZKtbuE

            None of this information has ever been hidden, so it is entirely provable. We just have had no reason to question prevailing thought before.

          • DaveH

            Kate, you said “I only supported Vigilant’s right to his own ideas”. That is so untrue. If you read even most of the comments made by myself and by Vigilant, you would know that it was Vigilant trying to silence me, not the other way around. I could not post a comment about the Lincoln dictatorship without Vigilant attacking me, usually personally, in his efforts to silence me. Ironically, it had the opposite effect, because as you must know, I don’t let people silence me.
            I suspect the reality is that I got on your bad side, so you were determined to use whatever excuse you could to make me pay for that (a woman scorned, you know).

            And, I don’t care what cult Lincoln belonged to. What I care about is that he grew the Federal Government dramatically in power. He could be Jesus for all I care.
            It doesn’t matter if they are in a cult, or members of a conspiracy, or just innocent leaders who honestly believe they are doing what’s best for the citizens. What does matter is that Big Government doesn’t work. I don’t care if that Big Government is run by Christians or if it is run by Atheists, Big Government doesn’t work.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – You are correct. I didn’t read too much the the battle between you and Vigilant, because I wasn’t that interested in it. It appeared to me that you were both in attack mode simply because you held differing opinions.

            And you weren’t “on my bad side” until you began to ridicule and attack me because I questioned your vitriol against Lincoln. Because of that, you started to belittle me and accuse “people like me” of all the problems you’ve ever had.

            You also demean the things I have to say, while expecting that I should respect your views.

            I tried to hold out an olive branch here, in my own way, but you don’t seem interested. I don’t like holding grudges, and I was hoping that we could just let it all go. I hate rehashing the same stuff over and over when there can be no resolution.

            I guess there is little else to say.

      • DC/Tex

        Avg. Joe, you must lick your finger after you pick it up to make sure you got the clean end.

        • Average Joe

          Not in this life…besides…I didn’t buy it.

          I am “Unappologetically Opinionated”.

          • Kate8

            Average Joe – I hear ya. I gave up PC some time ago.

            I call ‘um as I see ‘um. Sometimes I get people upset, but walking on eggshells and beating around the bush trying not to step on someone’s sensibilities (and it’s always a liberal who has a feeling, isn’t it?) just doesn’t acomplish anything. Let ‘em stew.

          • Average Joe

            My theory is…if someone doesn’t like what I have to say….they can always can always walk away…if they choose not to do so….be prepared for what I dish out.Being honest and forthright is my main concern…..not coddling some idiots feelings…..go cry elsewhere…. I am not amused…. Everybody can’t be a winner….showing up to the race…does not get you a ribbon…..and losing the ball game does not get you a free trip to Pizza Hut……If they don’t like it….sorry for their luck….call someone who cares….

          • independant thinker

            I used to make plaques that said “Politicaly Incorrect and Proud of It” to sell and giveaway. If anyone wants to use the idea feel free to do so.

          • Dan az

            An open mind dosen’t mean you have to go along’it just means that you can see why they are who they are and except that they may not change.

          • Kate8

            “If you stand for nothing, then you are nothing.”

  • American Citizen

    Aren’t these the same people who rail against the Patriot Act?

    • independant thinker

      I do not know who you are refering to American Citizen but I as a conservative was opposed to the un-patriot act as soon as I learned what was in it because I forsaw the abuses it would permit that we are in fact now seeing and there will be more abuses unless the act is totaly repealed.

      • DC/Tex

        Absolutely agree!

      • American Citizen

        I mean the Liberals who are for us spying on one another.

        • independant thinker

          OK. Thanks for the clarification.

        • Dan az

          AC
          You are correct.They had a need for security and were willing to give up their liberty to achieve it!I said the day I heard it on the news that this was going to be the beginning of the end for us.And it looks like I was right.

        • DaveH

          Citizen,
          You surely aren’t expecting Liberals to have consistent principles?

  • Ralph

    correction … the founding Fathers left us a Constitutional Republic instead of a so-called Judeo-Christian Democratic Republic or whatever that is.

    The term Judeo-Christian was an invention brought in after WWII by the zionists who sought to make America a colony of the coming state of Israel.

    • Lou the Fox

      Ralph, It sounds like you’re anti-semitic. I’m not a Jew but grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. They were the best neighbors ever.I always
      knew where they stood. I had good friends and had a good childhood. You need to find out who your friends really are.

      • Ralph

        Trying to discuss any truth with someone like you Lou is a waste of time … you are basically a coward who feels emboldened when behind your keyboard and calling someone a name which you hope will win the discussion for you, but but outside in the sunshine you probably sneak around corners afraid of your own shadow.

        • Push comes to shove

          and……………
          so what happened with that coming colonization?

          If you truely believe what you are saying, that is your right. It is also my right and Lou’s to say your statements are anti-semitic. That is not name calling, that is calling like we see it.

          It would be not even be name calling to say you show your ignorance and intolerance in your statements.

          But……………… calling you a JERK (and i am) is name calling.

          Take that little whaaaaaa baby!

        • pete the simian

          Hey you ANTI-SEMITE JEW HATER !! WHY DON’T YOU SHUT THE H$!! UP !!!

    • FreedomFighter

      Ralph,

      please look at the capstone on the Washington Monument, yes that aluminum thing that shines so brightly, glitters in the sunlight and stands in heart of our republic, is says…

      Laus Deo

      its latin, look it up.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Ralph

        Hey Freedom fighter, I spent 20 years in the Army and 18 months in vietnam fighting communist bandits and thank you for being a US Marine, but your Laus Deo only means “Praise be to God” on the south face while the other three faces list the builders and engineers and dates for the construction. I fail to see your point. Israel is a foreign state, not one of the United states.

        but back to my original post … why did all of you just become agitated with the colony of Israel phrase and completely disregarded the part about our nation being a constitutional Republic instead of somehting called a Judeo-christian democratic republic. and tell me where did any of you ever hear the phrase “Judeo-christian” before WWII? We are the only country that votes for this foreign country Israel 100% of the time in the UN … why is that? Why is our country shelling out 3 billion dollars yearly to this country that has a higher standard of living that most Americans can ever hope to see? Why have you a military man forgotten about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty and who deliberately tried to sink her with all hands lost so that the Egyptians would be blamed and we would have gone to war against the Arab world in 1967? Next time don’t try being cute with your Latin … if it was so important, the builders of the WAshington Monument would have inscribed it with English letters instead of Latin don’t you think?

        • Kate8

          Ralph – I guess I need to say this yet again.

          Please don’t confuse the Rothschild Zionists, who are not of the true Jewish bloodlines of the original tribes, with those who are devout, practicing Jews.

          The Zionists are edomites. They’ve taken on the Jewish personna as a means of acquiring power, because they are, in fact, occultists who worship pagan deities and are dedicated to the return of Osiris/Nimrod, and people would never have allowed them to prosper had they known this. But their symbolism is everywhere, and it’s not even being hidden anymore because their time is near.

          While it’s true that they wanted to establish Israel in order to have a port in the Middle East, it is also true that the Zionists were behind all of the WWs and the holocaust slaughter of true Jews. They care not who they sacrifice to their gods in advancing their goals.

          There are many good, decent, God-loving Jewish people who want no part of this vile brotherhood. In fact, there are some who even follow Yeshua.

      • Dan az

        Freedom
        I hope know one tells obumer he would want it removed! :)

      • DaveH

        Who cares what we call it? We just need to shrink the Federal Government back to it’s Constitutionally mandated size. There is so much anger these days, even among people who seemingly on the same side. There’s no doubt in my mind that is the result of busybody Big Government. One size does not fit all, and never will. That’s why we need to shrink government (at all levels) dramatically and, by doing so, bring some peace back to this country. They have no business micromanaging our lives, and they do a lousy job at that task anyway.
        For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Markets, and Peace, vote Libertarian. We are the only Party who really understands Freedom and the beauty of Small Government.

    • Christin

      Ralph,

      Judeo-Christian… WWII, Judeo-Christian Democracy Republic (a form of government… does not exist) …WHAT?

      The Old Testament is the Torah that the Jews have… and the New Testament about Jesus, the Christ and Son of God, along with the Old Testament is the Holy Bible that the Christians have been given from God.

      Judeo – Christian only combines Jewish and Christian.

      The Jewish people were looking for the Messiah as a rich King, but God sent a humble man in the flesh as Jesus, His Son.

  • 1minuteman

    this all comes from obama who is all about reparations to blacks for the slavery days. thats why they let go the black panthers but arrests groups like the hutaree even thogh they have not even been tried in court yet in over a year. he is also for sharia law and to make america a second class country. he has hurt the military bad and gutted nasa and bankrupt america. he says the opposite in public but he makes sure his real agenda is carried out by all those czars and heads of agencies. he is the lowest form of life i have ever seen and the biggest racist.

    • Lou the fox

      Larry, I don’t hate anyone. But I do not want Mr. O’bama to have a second term. Back in 2008 I recognized that this person did not in anyway like this country. His motto was (change) and that ment to change the whole philosophy and type of government to a more socialistic and possibly Marxist type of governing.He is a great orator, but his words are empty and meaningless.His actions speak louder than words. Intellectuals are supposed to be able to comprehend
      not only speech but also actions.I hope AMERICA finally wakes up before it’s too late.

      • DC/Tex

        The dumbos that voted for “O”ne “B”ig “A”ss “M”istake “A”merica did not realize the change he had in mind and did not ask.

    • Jyrine

      Right on the money 1Minuteman. If ya look into O’s life a little it sticks out at every turn-Obama hates this country. What better place to exact your revenge, than at the head the gov. and destroy America from a true position of power. His hatred is pathilogical.

  • Lastmanstanding

    Eventually, this crap is going to end…badly.

    Think of what might have transpired in Greece, etc. if people were armed?…regardless of what a weak and pathetic group the greeks have become. Cradle to grave societies end up enslaved.

  • locked and loaded

    I am a Vietnam veteran and an owner of a few guns . Come and get me . PLEASE !

    • Old Henry

      L and L:

      If the Hillabitch and Little Barry have their way, they will.
      As Chip says keep some powder dry.

    • DaveH

      Just don’t end up like this guy. Safety off!

  • Billy Cooper

    IF THERE IS A LIST OUT THERE, I AM SURE TO BE ON IT. AFTER ALL, I FIT THE BILL.(1) I AM WHITE (2) I AM A MILITARY VETERAN (3) I OWN GUNS. I EXPECT MY NEIGHBORS TO BE WATCHING ME CLOSE. BUT THEN, MY NEIGHBORS ARE WHITE, OWN GUNS, SOME ARE VETERANS. SOME IN THE MILITARY NOW. WE ARE IN A PICKLE FOLKS. HOMELAND SECURITY HAS GOTTEN IT WRONG AGAIN. SAME AS WITH THEIR AIRPORT SCREENERS, FONDLING 95 YEAR OLD WHITE WOMEN IN DIAPERS, AND AFRAID TO SAY ANYTHING TO A MUSLIM, FOR FEAR HE MIGHT BE KIN TO OBAMA. AND GET HIS POOR LITTLE FEELINGS HURT. COME AND GET ME NOW, LOCK ME UP, THROW AWAY THE KEY. I AM NEARLY 83 YEARS OLD, AND I AM DANGEROUS. LORD HELP US. WE ARE BEING RULED BY FOOLS.

    • Jyrine

      Not fools Billy, Communists.I was in dah nam too and I fought the Commie bastards. I developed a unbounded hatred for them and I recognize the same thought processes with the Obamanuts. This is the nightmare my wise grandmother warned me about. ‘America’s true enemys will come from within’. You were so right grams!

      • DC/Tex

        I’m with y’all.

    • Old Henry

      Billy Cooper:

      Ruled by fools who were put there by bigger fools.
      Go down firing your guns, do not let them lock you up. Take some of the scum with you. God Almighty is a warrior and He expects the same from us.

      • Kate8

        Old H – You just may find yourself up against enhanced super-soldiers wearing full high-tech body armor and carrying weaponry only seen in sci-fi movies.

        I’m not saying not to fight, if necessary. I’m just saying that cowards always make sure they have the advantage.

        • JC

          That’s why .50 cal’s and rifle scopes were invented. ;)

          • Kate8

            JC – I’m sure that was a good one, but I’m sorry to say that it went over my head. :)

          • JC

            hey Kate, Just saying, no matter how well protected someone is with body armour, they are vulnerable to precision shooting especially from big caliber rifles. That’s one of the reasons Hillabitch is going after “all” firearms with her UN Small Arms Treaty. They’re scared Sh**less of the fact that the majority of Americans (30 million +) who hunt are practiced snipers. I like that they are scared…it helps me sleep at night. lol

          • DaveH
          • JeffH

            JC, this ain’t exactly a .50 BMG, it’s a .338 Lapua…but it does get the job done…
            Canadian Sniper Rob Furlong Worlds Farthest Sniper Shot
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrku7K3EiU

          • JC

            Impressive stuff guys…
            Time for some upgrades? ;)

  • TIME

    As you watch the end of a nation thats was built on freedoms its short life of just 235 years after 5000 years of being slaves to the Political GODS of the past.
    The people found that being a slave was in the end what they really wanted as FREEDOM was just to much for them to handle.

    The American public can only express themselfs with this mindless quote; “It Can’t happen here!”

    Guess what? It did and is, and soon it will be all over before you know it.

    RIP,
    The United States of America,
    a Nation founded on Freedom, but killed
    its self, due to not wanting to work
    to keep it’s Freedoms, HOW SAD.

    Football and Coffee Clutch as well the new Soap’s as well as Mindless movies became the peoples IDOLS.
    The people let common sense fall, first, for FREE STUFF that was not quite as FREE as it was touted to be, the web and straings were in fact chains of bondage.

    Then the Moral fiber gave way for TV & Movie GODS, who then gave way to Political GODS.
    Who again sold the people a bill of goods and gave them criminals of a lesser degree to beat up in the media daily to feel good about something, after all the Political GODS made so many LAWS that to breath was breaking the law.

    All the while the real Criminals are the Political GODS who are robbing Peter to give to Paul while telling you that your the problem
    and yet you all gravel at their feet and take the beating, as well the blame, and you put on your own chains of bondage.

    Then the promise of a Good life with no struggles was sold by the Political GODS who then changed the tune to gather new members to become its Strong arms by turning the have not’s on the haves.

    All the while the very people who have the most are shielded by the Political GODS and the {have nots} are so ignorant that they can’t see the Tree’s from the Forest.
    And yet it was all engineered by a few of the worlds most Wealthy who control the media, the Political GODS, and yes even the Movie IDOLS.

    Yet the Have Nots are willing to be used for a few dollars and a PROMISE, all of it stolen from the hard working citizens who could not be bothered to stand up and fight, no it was just to easy to vote for who was that again?

    Now we face the end and yet the mindless fools still work to gain favor with their Political GODS and Movie IDOLS.

    Such a SAD end to what was once a Great Nation, just 235 years then it was all over but for the tears for what was lost when the people woke up and found themselfs SLAVES again in chains for 5000 more years perhaps before they again break the chains only to repeat the same cycle.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Time, you as so right. What a shame, but do you think that it is truly over for us? Do we not stand a chance to make a come back?

      • Kate8

        Joyce – I kind of have to agree with TIME. I don’t see how we can make a comeback without Divine Intervention.

        Everything is so controlled now, that anyone who might have an idea to try to do the right thing wouldn’t be allowed to get far. Just look at what happened to Judge Roll (who had just ruled against Obama – I think it had to do with his plan to confiscate people’s retirement funds) and Gabby Giffords (who was collaborating with Judge Roll to bring back adherence to the Constitution, thereby walking out of lockstep with the D party). It was reported in other countries to be a hit, and we were sold the usual “crazed lone gunman” BS. Most of us gobbled it up, too.

        Anyway, they were made an example of, just as were JFK and RFK, who also tried to buck the elite PTB.

        There is pool of crazies just waiting to be called upon to deal with rogues. I’m sure you’ve noticed how many “conservative” politicians have seen the light since the AZ incident.

        • TIME

          Kate,

          I agree with you, after well over 100 years we have a lot of road to cover just to catch up, and so few are awake enough to even get a small piece of the picture, let alone the BIG picture.

          It took me well over two full years just to dig up who’s who in this game, thats only the long time players.
          The average person is still stuck in the DemO V RebO craper.

          The fact that most people think they are comfortable, when in fact the nation is about to break apart at the seems. But oddly your local media and national media’s fails to even tell you anything of value.

          So lets be real, the following will happen no matter what;

          #1, We are going into a Depression that will make the 1930′s look like a Sunady afternoon drive to the lake on a sunny day in May.

          #2, The Dollar will end, US money is dead all it takes is simple thinking to grasp that what we think has value is all an Illusion.
          People you don’t even have copper in pennys anylonger – so how much is a zink penny really worth?

          #3, Countless Millions in this nation will die from lack of Food, lack of Clean water, and lack of Meds when #1, comes about.

          #4, As of November of 2011 countless companys and even local governments and state governments will be dropping over 2 Million people from Pay Roll’s.
          This alone should wake some up but saddly to late.

          #5, We are living in a total police state – its just a soft serve now, as in a {IRON fist in a Velvet glove.} Again As soon as #1, hits that Velvet glove will come off some people will wake up, but saddly to late again.

          #6, The elections in 2012 will be little more than a Circus side show to try and hold the band aids in place until the 1st Q of 2013.

          #7, By this years end thats 2011 gas prices will be over $5.00 per gallon. By this winter Electric power will become a problem, as in the fact that 90% of the US Population has no clue that Coal power plants are all but be closed down daily.
          We use about 35% – 40% of all our Electric power from coal, there will be rolling black out by summers end they have already started in many areas of the nation.

          #8, The Debt talks that are taking place now, you need to ask whats going on with the other hand?
          As I see it Barry has already spoken about his Police force and oddly the US Marshall’s have been given new training orders and they are expanding in numbers, any idea why that is?
          Barry has also spoken about just picking up American Citizens and placing them in jail indefinitely, with no reason other than you just fit a profile.
          The dept, of HLS has been working on that along with the fact that in 2009 your homes were all set on GPS.
          That means you can be looked in on at any time by Big Sister.

          And thats just the tip of the Iceberg. keep in mind the NAU, as well Barry sigend us off to allow UN TROOPS on US soild and that was done way back in 2009.

          So do I see a bleak picture? Yes, but I will still keep working at waking people up. Look what just happened to the fellow that spoke out about the 9/11 WTC B 7, he is now dead, oddly his air bags didn’t work.
          For you that need more to think about look at the papers on Bobby Kennedy’s death, how odd he was shot from behind.
          Keep in mind that Surhan was in front of him with a 22 cal pistol, and yet Bobby died from a 38 cal in the back. HELLOOOOOooooooooooo..

          • DC/Tex

            I think you hit the nail square on the head!
            “O”ne “B”ig “A”ss “M”istake “A”merica

          • Kate8

            TIME – As usual, you are right on the money, so to speak.

            RFK said that, if elected, he’d reopen the investigation into his bro’s death. That insured he’d be taken out. And yes, it was another snow job on the American people.

            For all these years we had the illusion that we had freedom like no other, and that our press was independent.

            Wrong on all counts. We are one of the least free places to be, and our press is totally controlled. It just goes to show that we can be convinced of anything, even against all evidence to the contrary. The PTB have great fun pulling our strings.

    • home boy

      6000 years

    • DC/Tex

      Very good post, when was the last time that we voted for the lesser of two evils? I voted for McCain but I did not want him and progressive views. So far I think Ron Paul should be the man to help and hope lead us out of this mess.

      • Old Henry

        DC/TEX:

        Yes, Ron Paul. I was also rooting for Bachmann, but read a post here earlier this week that she voted to renew the un-Patriot Act. However, I have not yet confirmed that fact.

        • Average Joe

          Since I was the person who posted that she had voted for re-authorization…

          http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=michelle+bachman+patriot+act&aq=f

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0X7uLKBi2I

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCahx6g2dbA

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRDXPoMg44M

          Most of the video’s are straight from the horse’s mouth.

        • DaveH

          There are only 2 Republican Presidential candidates who have the right ideas to lead us back to Freedom — Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. The MSM is doing their best to suppress both. They have been very successful with Gary because he is a relative unknown. Ron is a lot harder to suppress due to his fanatical following (I mean that in a good way).
          A good indicator of who is least likely to lead us to Freedom is to watch and see who the MSM is promoting. They always promote the most Liberal Republicans, such as Romney. If the MSM gives them a lot of positive coverage, do your homework!
          Here is Gary Johnson’s issues page (I think he would make a great Vice-President to Ron Paul):
          http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues

          • Average Joe

            While I like Gary Johnson, I still think Ron Paul is the best man for the job. Ron Paul’s voting record through 14 terms in congress, shows me that he is a man of principle and conviction…a Statesman…not a politician. We cannot risk splitting the vote this time around….we must stand vigilant behind one man…..or we will insure another 4 yrs. of Obama and the final destruction of our nation.

            Recently, Ron Paul was asked who he wanted as his running mate, he replied, ” I haven’t really given it much thought, but I sure do like that Andrew Napolitano fellow”.
            That sounds like a winning ticket to me….
            Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano 2012!

          • DaveH

            I would think I’ve died and gone to heaven with that ticket. But Napolitano isn’t running, so my choice would be Ron Paul/Gary Johnson.

          • DaveH

            In fact, I’m currently reading Andrew’s book “Lies the Government Told You”. It’s foreword coincidentally is by Ron Paul.

          • Old Henry

            DaveH:

            I thought you did not believe in heaven…

          • DaveH

            I don’t, Henry. That phrase was for descriptive purposes only.
            For the record, there is no life after death. If Pentothal or a blunt instrument can knock us out such that we have no thought process whatever, what do you think death is going to do?
            I am perfectly fine with religious people believing whatever they want as long as they don’t harm others in the process. Are religious people perfectly fine with my beliefs? Most I’ve known aren’t.

          • Old Henry

            DaveH:

            From a Christian’s perspective we know God our Creator and His Son Jesus Christ. Christ instructed us to be “fishers of men”, so from that perspective we are concerned about your eternal soul.

            I never brow beat anyone trying to help then “get straight”. It is, I think, counter-productive.

            When we are conceived we are given a soul. When we die that soul either goes to be with God in heaven, or to Hell and eternal torment.

            You seem to be a well-studied analytical person. Have you ever read the Bible? God is not something we humans can “get our arms around” and that bothers us. Do not try to over-analyze God.

            How do you think Earth, its contents and inhabitants were created? How about the universe?

            Were you raised as an atheist?

    • Old Henry

      Howdy TIME:

      Very well said, but we must always remember that God Almighty is still in charge. I think we may still have a chance. It hinges on 2012. As has been stated here by others we must pray for our nation and its healing.

      • DC/Tex

        Amen

      • TIME

        Henry,

        I pary daily for people to wake up. That God allow them to see with clear sight.
        If we do make it, it will be nothing short of an act of GOD that makes it happen.

        Peace & Love

      • Average Joe

        While he is indeed in charge, he gives to us the tools with which we may do his bidding….it is up to us to used them.

        For God and Country!

        • Old Henry

          Average Joe:

          Do His bidding, or sow our own destruction.

          And thanks for the Bachmann links. I emailed them to A LOT of people.

          I can hardly wait for her campaign to call me again…

  • gypsy

    Well Folks the big battle is coming I hope impeaching Obama mama will keep us from this battle but a lot of things must change remove gays from our military secure our borders and deport all illegal aliens with there children too. Close all loop holes for illegal aliens draining our system. This would be a fair start with so much more to do. If for some reason Obama is re elected we are doomed and then the big battle is on most likely. Choose your sides carefully.

    • TML

      What does removing gays from the military have to do with anything

      • Brad

        TML,

        I’m only guessing, you have never served in the US armed forces. I’m retired Navy 83-03 and when living amoungst 100 other guy’s and having a guy who’s gay makes the rest feel uncomfortable.

        • TML

          That’s the same kind of discrimination as one would say if a black man in the military made whites feel uncomfortable. Do you feel that it’s ok to deny a man or woman service to their country on grounds of discrimination?

          Actually I think your statement about gays just seemed at odds with the rest of your statements about securing our borders (which I agree with, btw).

          • Old Henry

            TML:

            God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
            Homosexual behavior is a deviate life style per God Almighty.
            By condoning it our nation is condoning something that is an abomination to God.
            Good is not evil and evil is now good.

          • Kate8

            TML – It has nothing to do with gays wanting to serve their country. They just want to make a point by forcing their way into every institution and drawing attention to it. It is another part of the communist agenda to destroy all of American’s moral traditions.

            It’s no different than their forcing their way into areas where they have access to our children. It’s not out of love for country or children, it’s about advancing an agenda.

          • newton

            TML. I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU OR ANYONE COULD BE SERIOUS OR YOURE JUST PLAIN IGNORANT TO COMPARE THE BLACK OR ANY MINORITY GROUPS STRUGGLE WITH THE HOMOSEXUALS, THAT TO ME IS AN INSULT AND WERE I BLACK I WOULD BE VERY OFFENDED. GAYS HAVE MANANGED TO CONVINCE MANY IDIOT LEGISTLATURES AND FEDERAL JUDGES THAT WERE NEVER ELECTED THAT THEY ARE VICTIMS OF MEAN HETROSEXUALS. IF ANYONE THINKS THAT PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR SEXUAL ORGANS IN THE MOUTH OR REAREND OF SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX IS NORMAL OR OKAY THEY ARE ON ANOTHER PLANET. MOST HETROSEXUALS BELIEVE THAT SUCH BEHAVIOR IS DISGUSTING AND HAS NO PART IN SOCIETY. HOWEVER IF THEY WANT TO INDULGE IN SUCH ACTIVITY DO IT IN PRIVATE, DONT ASK DONT TELL WAS THE ONLY THING CLINTON DID THAT WAS GOOD. ITS AGAINST THE LAW TO KILL OR ASSAULT ANYONE. GAYS DONT HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES. BUT THEYRE NOT HAPPY, THEY WANT TO FORCE EVERYONE TO ACCEPT THEM INTO THE MAIN CULTURE AS THAT OF BEING ACCEPTED AS NORMAL AND NOT PART OF A SUB CULTURE. THEYVE MANAGED ALSO TO INTEMIDATE MANY INTO SILENCE. LESSION THERE? YES NO MATTER WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS OR WAYOUT YOU ARE ON THE FRINGES OF SOCIETY, JUSTIFIED OR NOT. GET TOGETHER WITH OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF SCREAM LONG ENOUGH, LOUD ENOUGH, BULLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN POWER TO PASS LAWS AND GET WIERD UNELECTED JUDGES ON YOUR SIDE YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING YOU WANT.

          • Average Joe

            newton,

            The Readers Digest “condensed” version.

            It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.
            Robert A. Heinlein

          • TML

            “TML – It has nothing to do with gays wanting to serve their country. They just want to make a point by forcing their way into every institution and drawing attention to it.”

            I’ll agree with that…
            kinf of a topic derail, sorry bout that

      • DC/Tex

        Gays are the worst cancer on the morals of this country!

        • TML

          I don’t see how that is true. What they do neither picks my pocket or breaks my leg.

          • Kate8

            TML – I hate to break it to you, but life isn’t just about you.

          • TML

            It certainly isn’t about you imposing your religious beliefs onto others.

          • DC/Tex

            It is not a physical damage but a cancer that is eating away at the morality of this country. All of us are sinners but most of us do not have days or parades to celebrate our sins. Most of us do not want their slimy immoral lifestyle taught to our children in the government run public schools with their ideology that thinks they should be able to be legally married. Christians and most religions do not try to force their beliefs on others and damned sure do not want queers forcing theirs on our children. It may not affect you today but if you continue to turn a blind eye your children will surly be affected. Gays choose their lifestyle.

          • TML

            “Most of us do not want their slimy immoral lifestyle taught to our children in the government run public schools with their ideology that thinks they should be able to be legally married.”

            Well, I am a supporter of Congressman Paul, and one of the reasons is my views align with his in regards to the DOE, which would solve that problem. You should check that out if you haven’t already.

            “Christians and most religions do not try to force their beliefs on others”

            But isn’t that exactly what they talk about doing when they oppose allowing same-sex to marry? (which is what you seem to be referring to, when you say ‘celebrate sin’)

            “but if you continue to turn a blind eye your children will surly be affected”

            But surely I do not turn a blind eye. I make sure I teach my children sufficiently right from wrong… that is my job, not the government, and not a majority rule.

          • DC/Tex

            Your 6:05pm post conridicts this statement here you say that if it does not affect you it is OK, then later you say you will teach your children right from wrong and that is what we all want but in Califoricate thay have already pass laws to teach the gay agenda in grade school, if they can do it there look out it will soon be coming to a school near you. We must shout from the roof tops that this will not be accepted. We must stop this cancer!

          • TML

            “Your 6:05pm post conridicts this statement here you say that if it does not affect you it is OK, then later you say you will teach your children right from wrong”

            I fail to see the contradiction… could you be more specific on what “it” is that affects my ability to teach my children.

          • TML

            “…but in Califoricate thay have already pass laws to teach the gay agenda in grade school,…”

            Then I oppose that as well. As I mentioned indirectly.

        • imatellinu

          y’all i believe we all owe sodom and gomorrah an apology….

          • TML

            Prove that it happened, without any bible-thumping assertions, and I night consider you implications

          • TML

            *might

          • pete the simian

            No we don’t owe Sodom and Gomorrah and apology !

            You see what happens when a society starts turning homosexuAL ?

    • DaveH

      So, you believe in Freedom, as long as it’s your way?
      This, folks, is why we’re in the mess we’re in. If you want your Freedom, you must also respect the Freedom of others. That’s how it works. If you can’t develop the principles to respect other peoples’ freedoms consistently, then we are lost.
      The thieving Democrats have built their Party by taking in the people who the Republicans have cast off with their self-righteous moralizing.
      If you want to have an embraceable agenda to really win against the Democrats, then you must quit alienating others who simply want to control their own bodies and property.
      I was raised Catholic and in my teens was probably as homophobic as most. The visual image still kind of disgusts me (guy on guy that is). But there are a lot of things about other peoples’ life choices that disgust me. I’m a health food nut. I’ve spent most of my life exercising regularly. I’m 60, yet still love back-packing and other strenuous activities that most people my age would recoil from. I live a pretty disciplined life. If I didn’t have Principles of Freedom, and chose instead to impose my personal agenda on others, I would make quite a disgusting Tyrant.
      Let’s control our own bodies and property, and let others alone to do the same.

  • andrew p. skarupa jr

    Why does the U.S. not have razor all along our southern border? Does obama have to get permission from Calderone in mexico?

    • Old Henry

      andrew p:

      It’s not just Little Barry. Bush, or Shrub as he is called by some, had a cozy relationship with Fox and they both Colluded to allow these criminals to burglarise our nation.

      However, our current Communist-In-Chief has upped the anty.

      • Kate8

        Old H – And how.

        The American people are being played like fiddles.

        • Old Henry

          Yep Kate8, and it would seem very willingly.

    • DC/Tex

      With out federal interference Texas could protect it’s borders.

      • Old Henry

        DC/TEX:

        Ecept your RINO govenor wants to build a super super highway from Mexico into Canada stealing land from private citizens in the process. Remember, he is a Bilderburger / Globalist / NWO scum.

    • DaveH

      Why do the illegals want so badly to come here, and why will they brave all sorts of hardships to do so? Because Mexico’s Big Government has done to their ordinary citizens what our Government is trying to imitate here. Leaders love it when they can come to your “rescue” with even more Government to address your gripes. But Bigger Government is NOT the solution!
      People should not be entering this country illegally, for sure, but the illegals aren’t destroying our Country, Big Government is destroying our country. Big Government spends over 40% of our GDP. And that doesn’t count the fact that all the regulations they spew slow down our productivity dramatically. Although the monetary costs of those regulations are difficult to compute, they nevertheless are a huge drain on our economy. Read this to learn more:
      http://mises.org/daily/4579

  • BC.

    It breaks my heart to see how low we have all become.
    I fear for my children and grand children. WE were once a country with a soul, look at us now. We had problems and tried to address them. Not always succeeding. Now we are pitted againt each other. Those who everyday go to work and do the best they can against those who continue to look for something for nothing with a feeling of entitlement.
    Though I weep for what we have become, be advised, I will use whatever means available to protect myself and family. Yes, that includes my clinging to my guns and bible.I am not alone.

  • Bob

    Actually, there is some truth to the statement that terrorists may arise from the white middle class because they already have. Remember, many lieberals are white and middle class and lieberals have already murdered tens of millions of Americans, they have comitted numerous acts of economic sabotage, they have destroyed our schools system, and they are in the process of destroying our culture through sexual depravity, and just general immorality. So, DHS, if you want to serve America, go after these white middle class terrorists we call lieberals and throw them all in jail for terrorism. I will applaud you.

    • Lou the fox

      Touche Bob, You’re right on. We need to stop socialism in it’s tracks before it’s too late which inevitably will lead to Marxism, another
      word for slavery.

      • Jyrine

        Why don’t we just do away with the term socialism and cut to the chase-its Communism!

        • Kate8

          Jyrine – What it is, is EVIL beyond anything seen before, because of the technology available to those in control.

  • TML

    But there ARE white “terrorists” in America… I prefer to call them real Americans

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdkX5Zsqjmk

    • Kinetic1

      I take it the “M” in TML stands for Militia?

      • TML

        LOL… no, they are my initials.

  • Larry Pierson

    In the DC sniper shooting case the sheriff was so convinced the bad guys were white that he ignored a mountain of evidence to the contrary, prolonging the situation. The ‘reverse racism’ meant more people died than would have if the sheriff had not listened to the politically correct tripe being offered up. His incompetency was inexcusable.

    Janet Napolitano is painting as broad a stroke as she can of white Americans under the same evil scheme. Since when have ‘We The People’ suddenly become ‘We The Enemy’?

    • DC/Tex

      You are correct Janet fits in with all the other one world order communist running, should say ruining, this country. Seems to be in the same cut as the lying, cheating, greedy, immoral evil witch of the west Nancy.

  • Paul

    I agree with David Patton and 1minuteman.

    To start with Obama is HALF BLACK. They claim the half black but not the half white or half any other race. Who’s the racist?

    Obama is a racist!

    A black will always support a black, even if they know they are wrong. They can have their own black associations and groups. Try to start a WHITE ONLY GROUP and see what happens! Now who’s the racist.

    I’m so damned tired of hearing how the blacks and messicans are being mistreated it makes me sick. MESSICANS GO HOME! We don’t want you here! Blacks, if you want to be treated equally, act equally.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Sharon

      AMEN!

    • DC/Tex

      Another Amen!

    • Old Henry

      Paul:

      Amen!

      Have you ever noticed how Mexican and black nations are underdeveloped, poor and corrupt? As a WHOLE they just do not want to work hard to be free and better themselves, and their countries.

      • DC/Tex

        And have you noticed when they move into a nice middle class neighborhood the whites start to move out and as they take over the neighborhood runs down and becomes slums, kind of like fire ants leave a trail of destruction.

  • http://wwww.tombstonelizardmedia.com TombstoneLizard

    Yawn…. Okay, let’s get some things straight here. We all know that the DHS is a follow up to fascist police society first established by J. Edgar Hoover. Also, we all know ONLY white people carry guns and spray paint, thus undermining the fabric of civilization, and that EVERY white 6 to 95 year old WHITE woman is a HUGELY potential terrorist that aims to bring down our first “Mulatto” president. (BTW, Why does everyone keep calling him black? He may be “black Irish,” but he is NOT black! LOL) Come on, we all know that this isn’t about race; it’s about power and fear. They want the power to keep you fearful and in check; they know we have the power to fight back, and it scares the bejesus out of them. I don’t see any real fight against drug cartels and the illegal alien crisis, so it must be the fault of us whiteys for taking America from the Natives. Okay, we all understand that we now have to relinquish control to our Muslim masters and Nazi power brokers, right? It’s just the right thing to do to make up for our collective sins. LOL Get ready for a fight, people. It’s here and talking about it doesn’t make it any better, just start kicking ass on every possible level that you can! I’m right here with you, so let’s do this!

    • OldSully

      FBI director J. Edgar Hoover knew who the enemies of the United States were. He profiled them, watched them like a hawk and kept detailed files on them, When he caught them breaking the law he put them in prison, or deported them. In his day they were the Marxists and Mafia. He knew the Kennedy Klan was a part of both. Their shared lover Marlin Monroe was known to have contacts with the Mexican Marxists. JFK was known to have contacts with the Chicago Mafia. Unfortunately he couldn’t get rid of them before JFK became president and Booby became more powerful as A.G. The country rapidly went down hill from there. Marxist and rapist/murderer Teddy lived to promote Obama care before he met God and went into outer darkness with his brothers.

      Too bad we have a Marxist president, A.G., and Secretary of the Dept of Homeland Security which includes the TSA. It’s the foxes guarding the chicken coop all over again.

      Hoover is gone and so is our freedom.

      • Old Henry

        OldSully:

        Hoover also kept tabs / dirt on all the presidents / potential presidents / candidates. That is how he kept his job for 40 years.

        Funny thing about it was Hoover was a cross-dressing deviate.

        • Average Joe

          “Funny thing about it was Hoover was a cross-dressing deviate.”

          I’ve seen J.Edgar…..imagining him in cross-dress?…..Nothing funny there at all….discuting yes….funny ….no…. ;)

          • Average Joe

            * disgusting….sorry, my fingers were outrunning my brain…..;)

      • JC

        Curiuos Old Sully,
        You seem to be well schooled about the Kennedy’s…
        Do you think there’s any correlation between JFK’s signing a bill that would have undone the Federal Reserve and his untimely death at the hands of a “deranged lone gunman” six months later?
        BTW, Johnson signed JFK’s bill away and life went on…

        • Average Joe

          Actually, it wasn’t a bill that he signed…it was an Executive order (E.O.11110), which told the treasury that it would realease Treasury notes against all silver not already in circulation. The E.O. was in responce to congress passing a bill that would have remove Silver Certificates from circlulation to be replaced by Federal Reserve Notes…redeemable for nothing. There are those who would argue that he did so for others reasons, but the fact remains that both things happened on the same date (June 4, 1963).

          You are correct that it would have effectively shut down the Federal Reserve and returned us to Constitutionally sound currency. I agree that that act certainly put a target on his back, but I belive it was only one of many reasons Kennedy was assasinated. HYe pissed off the Fed. Reserve, he wanted to disban the CIA ( because they felt that they didn’t have to answer to anyone…including the President) over the Bay of Pigs fiasco and Operation Northwoods, Organized crime wanted him gone over his brothers activities in bringing down Mob bosses, Johnson hated being VP and thought that JFK was beneath him on the social scale. I belive that Kennedy’s assasination was a coordinated effort among many factions inside and outside of the government.
          On the same day that Kennedy was assinated, The Silver Certificates were removed from circulation (although they were redeemable until 1968) and replaced with 50 billion in Federal Reserve Notes…..with absolutely no fanfare about the switch….not from the White House and not from the news media.

          • JC

            Thanks for the clarification. I’ve always wondered what effect Kennedy would have had in the long run. I guess we’ll never know.
            He certainly had his share of detractors…

          • Average Joe

            JC,
            I grew up in a democratic family and remember the election of Kennedy and really think (dispite his short commings) that he was really trying to do something good for America and had the peoples best interest at heart. I was also a big fan of Robert Kennedy as well…….Teddy…not so much…(yeah I know…I’m a traitor to Repubs)…But I always try to look past the superficial side and see the person as a whole.
            I was 12yrs. old and living in Santa Ana, Calif. when Bobby was shot (watched it happen live on TV). I wrote a letter to the Hospital, expressing my well wishes ( at that point all we knew was that he had been shot, but not how serious it was) in L.A. right after the shooting, I took it to school and had the entire class sign it and the teacher mailed it for me. I was pleasantly suprised a week later when I recieved a personal letter (not a form letter) from Ethyl Kennedy thanking me for my letter. It also contained other items (things from the memorial service). That letter is one of my most prized possessions, simply because someone of her caliber,while going through this tragedy in her own personal life… actually took the time to respond to a 12yr. old kid.

  • Jason

    I Think they call this “Stasi” and is much, much worse than the Gestapo. Citizens to spy on each other. Welcome to the Fourth Reich of U.S.S.A.!
    Stasi, official name Ministerium für Staatsicherheit (German: “Ministry for State Security”), secret police agency of the former German Democratic Republic (East Germany). The Stasi was one of the most hated and feared institutions of the East German communist government.
    The Stasi developed out of the internal security and police apparatus established in the Soviet zone of occupation in Germany after World War II. The law establishing the ministry, whose forerunner was the Kommissariat 5 (modeled along the lines of the Soviet KGB), was passed by the East German legislature on February 8, 1950. Is history repeating it’s self?

  • will

    This is one more reason out off many hundreds of reasons why the government is to large and they have just givus a good reason on why we should cut the funding to the department of homeland security. If they cannot perform there job currently and only cause conflict among citizens then they are a bad program that shouldn’t be funded by taxpayers!

    • Lou the fox

      Will, I agree, Congress should defund Homeland security and let the stated do the job. It will be fixed in a week.

  • http://wwww.tombstonelizardmedia.com TombstoneLizard

    Note to self: When planning terrorist activities 1) Don’t carry spray paint 2) Don’t dress in black 3) Don’t carry a backpack 4) Don’t be white, for Gods’ sake! LOL This would be funnier, but I think I am actually starting to get sick…..

    • Old Henry

      Tombstone:

      Yer on a roll! LOL

  • Angel Wannabe

    Oh yeah I’m white and angry alright, but not because Bam Bam is half black, its because his policies suck! If I wanted European Socialism, I’d move to Europe!

    • Old Henry

      AW:

      All communist’s policies suck.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Old Henry, Hear, Hear Buddy!!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jerry Smith

    Jano Goebbels can’t find 20 million illegal Spanish speaking, Spanish looking, and Spanish acting aliens, how is she going to see one white cracker in a whole box of saltines?

    • Old Henry

      Jerry:

      He will be driving a pick up truck with an NRA sticker in the rear window and a Jesus Loves You bumper sticker. And he will be driving a Ford or Tyota as the others are now made by Little Barry.

      Hell, she can’t find the biggest communist terrorist in the country living in our White House.

      • Average Joe

        I don’t believe she could find her own A$$…with both hands…. on it…..and trust me…there’s more than enogh to find….just sayin’. ;) ….wink, wink, nudge, nudge….

  • Clint

    The things I noticed in the video; most of them wore hoodies and you couldn’t tell what race they were. So much for them being mostly white. The majority of those reporting suspicious activity appeared to be of a race other than white. In general, I would say this article is about 50/50 on the money. Stay out of police reports, don’t write nasty letters to politicians or newspapers and you should be safe from false arrest for being labeled a terrorist. Pay attention to your surroundings, if you feel you are being watched then mind your behavior. I imagine most people want this country to survive and be safe. There are better ways to communicate than through violence or intimidation and threats. Both parties need to re-Focus on what is truly important to the people of the USA and then work toward solving the Real Issues. There are some good candidates out there, but some of the issues they support are not as meaningful as others and their focus on those issues chases away possible supporters. Stay out of the personal lives, and religion and focus on the nation, jobs, education, and keeping illegals from draining our system in the may ways they do. Make becoming a citizen and getting temporary visas tougher.

    • Lou the fox

      Clint, very good point. We AMERICANS should be smart enough to not get mad but get even by using the good power of the vote before we lose it.We can make a differance if enough of us stick together, stop mouthing off and get to the polls in Nov.

    • Jyrine

      Ya missed one. Dont speak your mind in open forums like this.In short, forget the 1st ammendment.

    • Old Henry

      Clint:

      ” I imagine most people want this country to survive and be safe. ”

      Hmmm. Maybe that’s why God put a fault line along the CA border….

  • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

    I watched the video and don’t see the problem. I suspect the reason they show you Ted Kacyzinski, Jihad Jane and Timothy McVeigh is because they don’t want to get any more calls reporting ‘there’s an Arab-looking man walking down Elm Street.’ As they express it, “Reporting suspicious activity should not be based on a person’s race, religion, or gender, but rather on behaviors that seem suspicious or out of the ordinary.” They want the focus to be on behavior, not on race, which is as it should be. In the skits depicting suspicious activity, I count four non-Caucasian ‘terrorists:’ the African-American man in a red sweat-shirt who is ‘Testing Security,’ the South Asian-looking man who gains access to a restricted biological lab by ‘Impersonation,’ the Tibetan-looking man who enters a ‘Secured Area,’ and an Asian-looking man who sneaks into a nuclear medicine storage area. I count three Caucasians amongst the civic-minded observers who notice suspicious activity: the mustachioed man who watches through the blinds as a kid wearing a hooded sweatshirt plants a bomb, the blonde lady who challenges an intruder with, “Where’s your badge?”, and the blue-gloved janitor who notices an intruder sneaking through swinging security doors. By the way, did you notice that the majority of the FBI-types, homeland security honchos and uniformed men sitting in offices are white? Does it say anything about how DHS “feels about white Americans” that the men in suits
    running the show are disproportionately white? Maybe you should devote your energies to investigating real racial disparities, like why are the criminals in Charles Bronson’s old movie ‘Death Wish’ disproportionately white?

    • sodacrackers2

      Paid to post?

      • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

        That would be nice. You going to pay me?

        • Average Joe

          Not for “Fiction”….if you don’t see the problem….it’s because you’ve got your eyes closed…..

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            Average Joe, does this film-strip look to you like a high-budget production? The ‘actors’ are not professional: when they observe suspicious activity, they look this way and that like they are watching a ping-pong match, then they purse their lips and call the authorities. The film-maker (also the narrator?) has prevailed upon his co-workers to act in his little skits. When you make backyard movies, you are at the mercy of circumstance: your cast is whoever wants to be in your movie. What difference does it make if non-whites are over-represented among the concerned citizens? And why exaggerate the problem? Prove to me that the blue-capped nuclear medicine technician is not Caucasian, or that the terrorist lady who leaves her purse under the chair is not African-American.

          • JC

            Do you know why there has never been a terrorist act at Ben Gurion airport? Because profiling works. When the jihadists who just happen to be mostly Arabs are going through an airport…shake em down!
            If they get tired of it, they can clean up their own act.
            They can denounce their own radicals…LOUDLY.

          • Average Joe

            Fredericka,

            It has nothing to do with the “quality” of the film….it’s about the message…..As I said before….you’ve got your eyes closed. You are the typical…..”kill the messenger”, rather than to listen to the message…..

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            JC wrote, “Because profiling works.”

            JC, I doubt profiling works all that well, and besides it’s unconstitutional.

            P.S. Don’t tell the Alex Jones-types who post comments here about “Arab” terrorists, they think 9/11 was an inside job. That means the people who did it were Anglo-Saxon looking like G. W. Bush. They think, if I remember correctly, that the nineteen Arabs were either ‘patsies’ or they weren’t actually on the planes, which were operated by remote control. If these people are right, we should alert security personnel to look out for well-groomed Anglo men wearing suits, not Arabs.

          • JC

            Alex Jones types?
            Absolutely it was an inside job…you have to be a complete moron to buy the “official” story, which defies all the laws of physics.
            The building was most certainly wired with explosives…and that’s so obvious to anyone who has a basic understanding of physics as to make the “official” story a complete joke.
            White Anglos? Maybe…but we’re talking about a group of elitists who want to scare us into complete submission.
            In any event, you have to do your own research to reach any conclusions and you have to be capable of critical, analytical thinking…most people aren’t.

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            Hi JC, please explain to me why you want security personnel to shake down Arab travelers if 9/11 was an inside job. Not only 9/11, but other terrorist acts committed by Arab perpetrators, Alex says are ‘false flag’ operations if I’m not mistaken. Why do you want the security forces to focus on patsies and innocent bystanders?

          • Average Joe

            Fredericka,
            “and besides it’s unconstitutional.”

            Please tell me where in the Constitution you find anything concerning “profiling”….this ought to be good (rolls eyes)…..

            Whether profiling works or not is debatable.
            My fix for the problem is much simpler and quite a bit less costly. DOGS! DOGS! DOGS!
            Get the TSA out of the airports. Bring in trained bomb sniffing/drug sniffing dogs and their handlers. Place them at all baggage terminals and at all boarding gates….problem solved….. and nobdy was groped, fondled, irradiated or profiled…everybody’s happy. How much simpler can it get? If you don’t think this would work….talk to the Israelli’s.

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            Hi JC. Start with the Fourth Amendment: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.” Why do you want security personnel to crack down on Arabs, whom you claim are just innocent patsies? Seems to me you are ignoring the elephant in the living room.

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            Average Joe, I apologize for mixing you up with JC. Your answer: Fourth Amendment. Take DWB (driving while black) for instance. The police discover, by experience, that stopping white motorists rarely results in crack cocaine seizures, but stopping black motorists sometimes does. However, the typical black motorist is not carrying crack cocaine; it is an unlikely occurrence which is only slightly less unlikely if the motorist is black. This is not enough to get you over the hurdle of the Constitution, which prohibits “unreasonable” searches and seizures. ‘Slightly less unlikely’ is still unlikely. ‘We stopped him because he was unlikely to be carrying crack cocaine’ is not what the Fourth Amendment envisions. Therefore instead of racial profiling which never gets you to the promised land of reasonable grounds, investigators should focus on behavior, a point which is correctly stressed in this video. Instead of rolling your eyes, you ought to read the Constitution: you’d be astonished at what’s in there!

          • JC

            Fredericka,
            I personally don’t think we are under attack from terrorist groups.
            I think its all BS. So I don’t buy into the TSA, DHS, BATFE crap at all.
            BUT…if we’re going to be subject to all this ridiculous crap..then I say focus on the “supposed” source of the problem and leave main stream Americans alone until they commit some sort of crime.
            The idea that TSA personnel are putting their hands down a little girls pants, or strip search an old Vet while a bunch of sheet heads walk on by is disgusting. Its nothing more than Nazi tactics to intimidate a nation of free people…who will eventually start shooting.

            You want to see a war on American soil…keep pushing your Liberal/Communist agenda…and you’ll help get it started.

          • http://thriceholy.net Fredericka

            JC, a war on American soil — who would be the combatants? ‘Supposed’ but not real terrorists? I would expect you can fight back against that kind with pantomime.

          • JC

            Fredericka says:
            July 23, 2011 at 8:46 pm
            JC, a war on American soil — who would be the combatants? ‘Supposed’ but not real terrorists? I would expect you can fight back against that kind with pantomime.
            ______________________________________________________________
            Gibberish.

  • s c

    This is what happens when the high priests of class warfare, social engimeering, false elites and a host of CAREER CRIMINALS get entrenched in goverment. They put themselves on pedestals, they use Nazi methods to ‘persuade,’ they find ways to murder babies and they coddle career slimers who think Washington is a country club for wannabe felons.
    On a case-by-case basis, America has never before had so many sick, twisted, warped sunny beaches and freedom-haters in government. Now, it’s almost seen as merit badge behavior when you want people to snithch on each other. All they’re doing is bringing on their own demise sooner than they would have guessed possible.
    The pendulum of true justice is swinging the other way, folks, so let the scummy bastards enjoy their 15 minutes of infamy. Lock and load. Strike a match for the molotov cocktails, and let the entertainment begin.

    • Lou the fox

      Slow down friend, You’re getting a little too carried away. The rhetoric is not becomming of a good AMERICAN patriot which I believe you are. It pays to be smart rather than angry.You are much more effective when you have a cool Head.

      • Old Henry

        Lou:

        That is exactly the way a good American should be speaking. This nation was birthed with gun powder, bullets and blood.

        The Tree of Liberty must occasionally be refreshed wtih the blood of tyrrants and patriots.

        • JC

          Amen that!

          • Kate8

            Amen, and AMEN!

          • Old Henry

            JC / Kate8:

            We have become a nation of squeamish little girlie-men like that POS on PMSNBC with the tinkle running down his leg.

            We have become soft and unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices, I think…

  • Rennie

    It’s all real simple. Democrats have always defined “terrorism” as any threat to the democratic party control of this country. That is why they don’t see the problem with cuddling up to islamofacists a.k.a. “headcutters”, Stalin, Chairman Mao, naturenazis like “Earthfirst” or the Unabomber, and anarchists like Bill Ayers. And yes, I hope they do live in fear of the people, because people are not supposed to live in fear of their governments. I hope the next election results scares the hell out of them, and RINOs too.

    • Kate8

      Rennie – Amen to you, as well!

  • sodacrackers2

    Perhaps they should have had infants or extremely elderly people in wheel chairs, or five and six year olds doing some of these suspicious activities? Our last chance is in the coming elections to rid our nation of all socialists/communists/Marxists, whatever they are openly and blatantly calling themselves. Otherwise, our children and grandchildren will never know what freedom is.

    • Kate8

      sodacrackers2 – I don’t think many of us know what freedom really is. For too long it’s been nothing but an illusion to which some pay lip-service.

  • Bob Marshall

    Last night i spent two hours reading Agenda 21.I finally gave in and and went to sleep. This is long and detailed plan. The UN has unbelievable control over us today.

    • Kate8

      Bob Marshall – Good for you! More of us need to do that, because it’s being implemented at lightning speed (before enough of us realize what it is) right before our eyes.

      Elected officials have all been brought on board with this, right down to our local governments. Nowdays our people are taught to be “team players”, and to embrace “change” with a positive attitude.

      Amazing how this was done, isn’t it?

      We need to really get organized and fight this thing back, beginning in our own towns and states. Some towns here (CA) have fought and held them back for a time, but our PUC and other state agencies are already forcing compliance, as mandated by our treasonous democrat controlled legislature.

  • Lou the fox

    Remember AMERICAN patriots, and I do think I’m one! be cool, be smart and be collected. We will prevail!

  • CJM

    The video speaks volumes–especially when compared to how hitler changed Germany. The message to spy on each other is loud and clear; the end result for Germany was the extermination of 6+million Jews and 3+million other people. Just as hitler started with the youth of Germany (all ‘white, blond, blue-eyed’), so obama is beginning with the youth of America (all ‘black, black hair, brown-eyed’) in his newest endeavor of building a national security force…none of the youth featured in other videos show youth belonging to another racial group. The infestation spread to the children at the local schools, where children were taught to spy on their parents and neighbors and have them report their ‘findings’ to the school ‘authorities.’ End result? Parents and neighbors were arrested and executed in public with hours, not a matter of days. If they were ‘lucky’, they were tortured first–and then executed. Interestingly, the video here does not show terrorists of another racial group–albeit the black panthers and their ilk (crips, bloods, etc) belong in the terrorist group category–and the ‘heroes’ of this video are 90% black. Really? How stupid does obama really think we are? All the more reason to charge this imposter with treason and sedition among many other crimial acts.

    • Kate8

      CJM – It’s no secret that Obama is modeling his strategy after Hitler.

      After all, the same power that was behind Hitler is behind Obama.

  • Howard R Gray

    The DHS is doing what it’s supposed to do look around for all terrorists you can possibly imagine. Taking in white supremacists, KKK crazies and anyone else of similar stripe, is what you would expect them to be looking for under a Democrat controlled government, after all these are ideal propaganda targets. So why is anyone surprised by the utterances of such a large oversized bureaucracy justifying its existence to its own party elite in the government of the day?

    Homeland security is more a reflection of foreign policy in Islamic nations far to the east of the continental United States. The outrage of 9/11 set off the process of foreign wars on the one hand and massive bureaucratic overreaction on the other to security here at home.

    Is very clear that the foreign wars will come to an end much as all the other foreign wars of recent times by stalemate or low-level defeat. Time and again foreign adventures have resulted in wars fought south of parallels or delimited by borders that cannot be crossed effectively. The only benefit, more likely than not, is that the military have perhaps created a military machine well oiled and thoroughly capable in what they are allowed to do. No shame reflects on them whatever, they do what they are ordered to do by whoever is the commander-in-chief at the time and those who advise him. The political decisions are faulty, if you wish to run an empire then do so expecting to be there for 100 years or more otherwise you’re most likely to fail in your objectives if they are so short-term as to fit into the presidential election cycles. Nation building is the business of empires not mere short-term political agendas.

    So long as we are embroiled in overseas meddling in violent backward Islamic nations we can expect serious violent and malevolent terrorism aimed at the heart of our nation. This may include mass attacks inclusive of germ warfare and nuclear war. Homeland security is a very serious matter the enemy only have to succeed once for the DHS to have been perceived to be a failure. The credibility of the DHS is doubtful when the political leadership seems more concerned about propagandizing White terror rather than dealing with substantial threats from the obvious sources such as Al Qaeda for example. The southern border is clearly open for a good reason, it is wartime and there is no attempt to close off ingress of terrorists that can be considered plausible. One must conclude that the open border is acceptable, one may speculate as to why that is the case. Human trafficking, drugs, guns just to name some of the contraband passing north on the one hand and cash going in the opposite direction are clear examples of what we know about the why is this happening? How much of that money is being diverted by way of laundries into political coffers would be most interesting to know about. Then there are of course the simple often quoted constituency building objectives of the Democrat party and business employment opportunities for supposed Republican business interests.

    We all know that the terrorists merely have to score once to have something to crow about however, the DHS will be perceived to have failed if that happens. The sad thing is that 9/11 resulted in no serious dismissals of senior officials who should have been shown the door within 24 hours of the event. The response has been to create an enormous bureaucracy and start wars of adventure with pretensions to empire. Are we being well served? You decide!

  • Lou the fox

    I do believe in this country!

    so I call upon all good loving AMERICANS to come to the aid of this country whether you are a real democrat or a Republican or a real Independent. I choose not to put too much faith in parties, but my faith is in AMERICA. My parents came to this country for it’s freedoms and opportunity. They didnot come here to be a part of a socialist or Marxist state. AMERICA the beautiful, AMERICA the number one, AMERICA the strong. Please join Me.Strengthen our Constitution so we can be the light of freedom around the world.

    • Old Henry

      Lou:

      We have three boxes at our disposal to regain our nation.
      The Soap Box
      The Ballot Box
      The Ammo Box

      We used the first two last year and they are still at our employ. After November 2012 we will find out if the third option will be employed.

      Lou, remember even with a so-called Republican controlled House the facsist un-Patriot Act was renewed.

  • Moby49

    Bob when you keep calling for the overthrow of the president and destruction of the government not to mention sounding like a white supremacist most of the time, I am not sure what you expect the government to do. Nearly every organism will try to protect itself from attack.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Moby49,

      When have I called for the overthrow of the president and destruction of the government? What I have written that indicates I sound like a white supremacist? Please provide specific examples.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • pete the simian

        BOB,

        See what I’m talking about ? Some nutcase just makes up lies – and the next thing you know your in Jail with no rights !!!

    • http://whiteterrorists Tony

      to Moby49:
      I have to agree with you 100%. The sad thing is, i’m a conservative
      and a Repub. myself. Yet, these misguided individuals sound like
      something from the Racist/anti-semitic book “The Turner Diaries”.
      To put it bluntly, Repubs. better change now or in 2012 expect
      an unpleasant. Overall, as a conservative, i implore all you reactionaries to change or post on Amren and David Duke’s Stormfront.
      They’re bigtime losers. Alright, i have to go but you’re absolutely
      right Moby, much to my chagrin.

      • Old Henry

        Tony / Moby:

        See Bob’s post / reply above.

        I do not recall ever reading Bob calling for the “overthrow” of Obama or the government. He firmly advocates voting Obama out and getting our government back to its basic constitutional duties and out of our lives.

      • pete the simian

        Tony,

        Are you a member of “The Thought Police” ?

        Just like in that book “1984″ !!!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Bob L. has not said any of the things you are writing. So kindly cut the bs out. Putting words and baiting to get the response you want tells us you are manipulative and viscious.

      • Average Joe

        and….most likely the complete opposite of what they claim to be….

        “I have to agree with you 100%. The sad thing is, i’m a conservative
        and a Repub. myself.”….

        Who is this turkey trying to fool?…..us or himself?………
        I can honestly say…I ain’t buyin’ the BS….

        roflmao

        • JC

          Good Catch! ;)

    • pete the simian

      Moby49,

      You stop lieing about Bob !

  • jopa

    The act of” if you see something say something” came about during the Bush years.This is nothing new.I don’t know the stats but during the Bush years there were something like 80-90 new security agencies put into place ( under Homeland Security)and there are not that many terrorists so I guess they have to spy on us to justify their existence.Not only that they gave tens of thousands of those agents top security clearance.What a joke that was as far as keeping anything under wraps.

    • JC

      Thanks for the reminder. This isn’t new, its just fully manifesting under the present regime.

  • john

    if they want a war lets do it now.My ammo is fresh but my hips are starting to bother me.

  • Kinetic1

    Bob,
    This is about the most blatant attempt to stir up anger that I have seen on your site. “… all but one or two of the people demonstrating potential suspicious behavior is white.” Really? I watched the video closely and found that of the 15 “terrorists” (not counting the headlines shown) only 7 were definitely “white”. 3 were clearly Asian or Middle Eastern, 1 women was light skinned but did not appear white, another women could have been hispanic or black and the remaining 3 were either blocked from view or did not show enough to make any distinction. And why didn’t you point out that most of the authorities were White?

    Just how bad a representation is this video? I looked up lists of terrorist acts in America since 1990 and of the 20 listed, 10 were committed by Whites. That’s not counting multiple acts by one person, such as the uni-bomber. From abortion center bombings to the anti-liberal church shootings of Jim David Adkisson, whites have done their share. True, world wide terrorism is another story, but here in the U.S. there are more than a few home grown whites ready to kill for their views.

    There is little doubt that concerns over racial stereotyping affected the choices made by the makers of this video, but your response seems geared towards feeding the racial fears of those on this site and may be tainted by your own white centered views.

    • Thor

      If you are so fond of statistics, why not read some? Go to DHS sites, census sites and look at the real terrorist numbers and then look at who among us is actually targeted. This is just one video–typical, but only one. The point (if you can get past the racism) is that DHS is targeting demographic groups that are not responsible for a single act of terrorism–confirmed terrorist acts/victims=teapartiers, 0; fundamentalist Christians, 0; conservative Christian gun owners, 0; right-wing racist extremists, 486; left-wing extremists, 356; black extremists, 18; Muslim extremists, 3500 (and counting)in the US alone. So, why are those with the zero-victim numbers even named in DHS briefing? That’s the point! Not the video ratios!

    • JC

      Guess what KineticCommie…this is all over the web.
      And you need to get back under your rock.

  • http://whiteterrorists Tony

    To Thor:
    There are , also, 7,000 white supremacists types in this nation. Get all the facts sir before it’s too late. Thanks!!

    • Thor

      Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll try harder next time. Of course, it’s always a better feeling to get stats that are accurate…yours are not. There are many more than 7k white supremacists, belonging to some 1800 separate groups. Point is none of those who have actually carried out terrorist acts are mentioned in the latest DHS briefings! That’s the point! Pay attention to detail, will you?

      • JC

        Exactly, these DHS Nazi’s are targeting everyday, run of the mill Americans.

    • Average Joe

      So Tony, what you are telling us is that in a nation of 300 million people….there is one nutcase for every 42,857.14 people…..gee…what are the odds of that?

      Should I hide under my bed now?……OK…your comment was beyond silly…..it was borderline 20 IQ……careful when you go outside….that nasty old shadow of yours might attack you (when you’re not looking…..

  • Another Voice

    Hey, when ANY extremist group talks about arming itself against the government or its fellow citizens, then it is going to be watched by Homeland Security, thank God. It doesn’t matter what the group’s racial makeup is.

    Thor does not mention the terrorist attacks upon abortion clinics and the murder of doctors who perform abortions. He does not mention the fundamentalist Christians who are encouraged to beat up homosexuals by their pastors. These physical assaults are acts of domestic terrorism, too.

    As long as White Terrorism exists, then DHS needs to keep these groups on a very short leash.

    • Thor

      The facts don’t bear you out, either, partner. The term ‘fundamentalist Christian’ is a misnomer and I think you should know that. Eric Rudolph, for example, was a member of ‘Christian Identity’ which advocated targeting homosexuals, abortion doctors, clinics and anyone who is non-white. There is not a single belief here that is fundamentally held by genuine Christian people. If you want to see what real terrorist groups look like, go to

      https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/193420.pdf

      just one study, but apros pos. The FBI website also has stats on these groups. I don’t see “Christians” or “Tea Partiers” mentioned on any of these with respect to identifiable threats. There is a good deal of information about ‘racist’ motivation and anti-government sentiment. The latter does seem to be spreading through more and more demographic groups. We should expect that to get worse, too.

    • Antonio

      You are one of the problems America has. It’s people like you who think a little fist is an act of terrorism. I thought denniso, eddie47, and jovianus and all his personalities were idiots, but you have are now the number one idiot. Anybody who thinks beating up on a homosexual is terrorism is just plain stupid. Does this mean that two kids get in a fight are now effectivly terrorist? A couple drunk guys in a bar fighting over a fat drunk lady, terrorist?? You need to get off the computer man and go take a look at life really man. OMG a fist fight now an act of terrorism…. soon they shall pass bill to ban our hands for the safty of others..

      • Old Henry

        Antonio:

        Actually two kids getting in a fight are in training to be terrorists – especially if they are white….

        I’m sure the near-by security video will be sent to Nazitono for review.

    • Old Henry

      AV:

      Think Black Panthers.

      • http://deleted Claire

        Add these: The White Supremists and the Skinheads

        There a numerous so-called “groups” that have evil intent and are alive and well here in the U.S. And yes, I include Muslims, communists, and some of the “militia” groups. Keep in mind that some of the “militia” groups are for a good cause but there are some that mean harm.

  • skipfoss

    I know my erlier comments will be deleted because big brothe don’t like to be called out for their support of the enemies of and in the US

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear skipfoss,

      Your comments are moderated because you have not proven mature enough to abide by the terms of use policy. We usually ignore them altogether. Sometimes, when you have behaved for a while, I will approve some of them.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Old Henry

        Bob!

        Ya sound like an old principal I had as a kid! LOL!

        Thanks. Ya made me laugh! I needed that today.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Old Henry–I had to laugh–yes Bob Livingston does sound like a principal–the one I had in high school. Mr. Wilson was his name and believe me, I had great respect for Mr. Wilson. He ruled with an iron hand but he was good!

      • Average Joe

        Bob,….You da Man! Bravo!!!

  • chuckb

    if any of you think that this nation will become a multiculture society, forget it. as the diverse populations grow each is seeking more power for their culture, the blacks basically want to control their culture, they want to live their lifestyle. the mexican population do the same and we have a growing population of muslims. the blacks are more inclined to axcept islam, the mexican more inclined towards catholicism. the white christians are losing their power due to bad voting habits and liberalism. the whites made a bad choice of voting in 2008 and probably will never recover from that mistake. it is only a matter of time before conflict starts between the cultures and it will. most countries on this earth with this kind of diversity are ruled by dictatorships, otherwise they will have constant civil war. at present we are ruled by a muslim puppet who is ruled by a cadre of communist jews trying to pick up where they left off in soviet russia.

    • DaveH

      The problem is that Big Government, by trying to force us on one another, is creating resentment that wouldn’t be there if we had a truly Free society.

      • Kate8

        Part of what the elites envision for us is a continual state of war. At least, until we are few enough in numbers for them to hold in slave installations.

    • Old Henry

      If you voted for Obama in ’08 to prove you were not a racist,
      vote for someone else in ’12 to prove you are not an idiot.

  • DaveH
  • DaveH

    And this is very important for those who want to retain our Sovereignty and our Gun Rights:
    http://gunowners.org/a071911.htm

    • JeffH

      DaveH, I recieved this update from the NRA/ILA today…As of this morning, 51 members– a majority–of the U.S. Senate have signed letters to President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton saying they will oppose any ATT that includes civilian firearms ownership. These strongly worded letters caution the President and Secretary of State to uphold the Constitution of the United States. As Senator Jerry Moran’s letter warns, “(A)s the treaty process continues, we strongly encourage your administration to uphold our constitutional protections of civilian firearms ownership. These freedoms are non-negotiable, and we will oppose ratification of an Arms Trade Treaty presented to the Senate that in any way restricts the rights of law-abiding U.S. citizens to manufacture, assemble, possess, transfer or purchase firearms, ammunition and related items.”
      http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7004

      • JeffH

        Here is a PDF copy of Moran’s letter, with signatures, to Obama and Hillary…
        http://www.nraila.org/pdfs/unarmstreatymoran.pdf

      • DaveH

        I hope so, Jeff. But if they sign any kind of treaty at all, the UN foot will be in the door. You know how that goes.

        • JeffH

          Yup!

          • Kate8

            JeffH – I sure hope this is real and not just another performance put on for public consumption. As with O’care and other things, they make a big show of opposition and can then say they did all they could but they couldn’t get the votes.

            We’ll see. I know that to the American people this issue is non-negotiable for sure.

  • JeffH

    Does the DHS report filed on Right Wing Extremism?
    7 April 2009
    Prepared by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.

    This product is one of a series of intelligence assessments published by the Extremism and Radicalization Branch to facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States. The information is provided to federal, state, local, and tribal counterterrorism and law enforcement officials so they may effectively deter, prevent, preempt, or respond to terrorist attacks against the United States. Federal efforts to influence domestic public opinion must be conducted in an overt and transparent manner, clearly identifying United States Government sponsorship.
    http://www.wnd.com/images/dhs-rightwing-extremism.pdf

  • jopa

    Jeffh;That is one of the phoniest articles to date that you have come up with.Did you just dig this out of your KKK files, it is bordering on being produced with Crayola crayons.Time to be a little more professional.

    • JeffH

      DUH! jopa, it’s obvious you didn’t even open the link…it is a certified DHS report which, by the way, has been posted on various occasions.

      Perhaps this Huffington Post article would be more convincing for you unless, of course, you’d rather reject it as a fake too.

      • JeffH

        …forgot the link…let the truth free you from the shackles of liberalism…

        Homeland Security Report Warns Of Rising Right-Wing Extremism
        Huffington Post/AP | 04/14/09 08:58 PM
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html

        • JC

          The Huffington version was sent to me a couple of days ago, by a friend in the Army. Its real alright. Guess even jopa was stunned by the absurdity of left wing BS this time! LOL

      • JeffH

        One more link for you…amazing!
        http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

      • DaveH

        Jeff,
        Don’t you feel that you are using excessive force when you debate a Liberal? It’s kind of like bringing a gun to a fist fight.

        • JeffH

          DaveH, I honestly thought of posting a response similar to that(…a knife to a gunfight…)but thought I’d just dig up a source jopa could trust instead.

        • Average Joe

          It’s more like liberals bringing a a feather duster (anything more and they might hurt themselves)….to fight off a tank. :)

      • Average Joe

        He didn’t open the link because….he was busy trying to keep his feet out of his mouth.Amazing how that seems to happen to jopa…..constantly……

        OK Jopa,open mouth….. Switch feet!

        • JeffH

          :)

        • DaveH

          I think Liberals rarely read the articles that we link to. Yet, they claim to have Open minds. Sure.

  • C130 Gunship

    The DHS knows if the ‘listed’ parties gain political power in the 2012 elections which is entirely possible, the DHS will most likely be decimated if not out right eliminated along with other departments like TSA.

    I live for the day…………

    • Old Henry

      C130:

      Don’t count on it. Remember, the Republican controlled House just voted to renew the facisit un-Patriot Act and it seems that Bachmann voted in favor.

  • Robert

    I used to think of myself as a Republican. I made the mistake of supporting Bush when he created the Dept. of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. Boy did I make a mistake. I’ll never support the Republicans again. It’s the Tea Party and others that support the constitution. It’s funny how the Democrats, that were so worried about peoples civil liberties have done nothing to get rid of the ill fated dept.

    I’m going to quit playing their game and support defenders of the constitution from here on out.

    • Old Henry

      Dunno Robert. My first term TEA Party Rep voted to renew the facsist un-Patriot Act.

  • FreedomFighter

    Some kind soul needs to start a website with a list on it:

    Progressive/Socialist liberals List or Internal enemy list:

    Name Position Location Home address

    I kinda like the idea, see how they like it.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • DC/Tex

    The commander in chief impostor and his new world order group wants the citizens to fight and rebel so they can declare a police state and marshal law then he can really be a dictator and form a communist government of another third world country. They are already indoctrinating our children in government run public schools and the poor and needy are taught to believe they cannot get by without the government even though they screw up most everything they touch.

  • http://ba jeb bush

    9 1 1 was a inside job the fedral reserve is printing fake money and hyper inflating it stop hateing each other be american buy gold and silver , guns be ready.Ron Paul is the only true guy running.

  • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan

    Hi, is this Janet speaking? I’d like to report some suspicious behavior at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    • AlamoMan1

      Yes we are aware of the behavior you are reporting. Shortly, there will be two men in black suits at your front door. They will take your statement. Please cooperate with them fully.

    • JC

      Yes, this is Janet, and I would like to hear all about this if you can meet me in the woods about midnight…don’t tell anyone where you are going k? ;)

    • Average Joe

      Say it ain’t so!
      There are bad people at BO’s home for the mentally impaired?…..Who woulda thunk? Quick!…Hide the wife and kids! Lock the doors…bar the windows! Break out the pea shooters and spitballs! ;)

  • AlamoMan1

    Republicans are not big on slogans or bumper stickers. Probably out of fear that a small minded liberal would do something to their car. But I would like to start a slogan. GROON! Get Rid of Obama Now. Let’s all say it. Maybe it will catch on.

    • Average Joe

      Clean up America: GROON!…..let’em wonder….lol

  • BimBam

    Typical cro-magnon liberal thinking… dark-skinned people goood, white-men baaad!

  • jopa

    DaveH That was the other topic Jeff doesn’t know too much about either.He tries to play the role of being a rednecck hillbilly with more armament than Whitey Bulger.However when he starts to ramble on about his guns and ammo the jargon makes no sense whatsoever so he starts posting different websites trying to throw off his lack of knowledge.DanAZ laughed at Jeff when he was so proud of his 8mm pea shooter so Jeff comes back saying he also owns everything Dirty Harry did.Jeff claims he can buy 500 rounds of 8mm ammo for less than ten dollars shipping included.He posts the website and no such price on it.You can fool some of the people some of the time as they say.

    • JC

      Other than feeling all smug about yourself…what exactly is your point?

    • JeffH

      jopa, yer killin me…you’re getting worse than eddie, he’s a liar too. Seek some help.

      Oh by the way, I see I can’t fool the fool can I…I’m still LMAO…guess ya got me… :)

      Anytime ya want to debate firearms or take memory classes, you know where to find me…I just can’t fool a fool…ROFLMAO! :) :) :)

    • JeffH

      Hey Brother Dan, can you set the record straight for jopa?

    • JeffH

      Oh jopa thought you might be interested in this website…it’s taylor made for people like you with short or no memory at all…

      Have you nourished your brain today? Staying focused and on top of your game at work, home, and school is more essential than ever. Like other parts of your body, your brain needs proper nutrition to perform at its best. Give your brain the nutrients it needs with FOCUSfactor, America’s #1 brain health supplement.*
      http://focusfactor.com/

  • newton

    TML. YOU SAY GAYS HAVE A RIGHT TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY,TRUE THEYVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. IF THEY CAN KEEP THEIR GAYNESS TO THEMSELVES AND COMPLY WITH DONT ASK DONT TELL, THERE MIGHT NOT BE ANY PROBLEM FOR STRAIGHT PEOPLE. I DONT BELIEVE THE MAJORITY WOULD CARE WHAT THEY DID AWAY FROM BASE ON THEIR FREE OFF DUTY TIME AS LONG AS NOBODY HAD TO HEAR ABOUT IT. BUT SLEEPING IN CLOSE QUARTERS SUCH AS A SHIP COULD BE A REAL PROBLEM. I DONT THINK MANY STRAIGHT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE SLEEPING VERY NEAR TO GAY PEOPLE. GAYS AND THEIR ALLIES WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT WOULD BE NO PROBLEM. IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN HAVE STRAIGHT MEN AND WOMEN SLEEPING TOGETHER ALSO. IAM SURE EVERYONE BOTH MEN AND WOMEN COULD CONTROL THEMSELVES. IF OBAMA IS FOR THE GAYS AND ALL THESE LIBERAL CONGRESSMEN AND JUDGES LET THEM LIVE IN BARRACKS WITH GAYS, AND ON SHIPS FOR AT LEAST A MONTH. TAKING SHOWERS WITH THEM. IAM SURE NOT ONE OF THEM WOULD OBJECT ,AND IAM SURE ALL THE GAYS WOULD CONTROL THEMSELVES.

    • DC/Tex

      I like the way you think…

  • Gayle

    In this video fusion centers were mentioned quite a few times, and recently I watched a video where the fusion centers were actually fema camps. The US was divided into 10 segments. obama has also appointed a group of 10 governors. This video was narrated by Jessie Ventura and I also read about him suing TSA for groping. There is so much going on and you don’t know what to believe. One thing I do believe is that we are in trouble and must do all we can to correct this mess our country is in. I am with Americans all the way and I will do my part.

  • Alex

    The most dangerous people in History have been White Christians. You can look it up.

    • Average Joe

      Alex,

      Nice, you make an accusation….no facts….no links…just your opinion and then say, “you can look it up”. Sorry, you made the accusation…you provide the proof….othrwise, you’re just blowing smoke up your own A$$…..

      Thanks for playing…no parting gift for you today….thou doest not seem to be very trustworthy………….

      • DC/Tex

        Avg. Joe, Alex is checking out the clean end…I bet he licks his fingers?

        • Average Joe

          ;P

        • Average Joe

          ;)

        • JeffH

          double that :) :)

    • NEWTON

      ALEX. WHITE CHRISTIANS HAVE AT TIMES IN HISTORY BEEN CRUEL AND DESTRUCTIVE AND HAVE NOT ALWAYS FOLLOWED THE SAVIORS TEACHINGS AS THEY SHOULD. BUT THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES AS WELL AS ALL THE PROPHETS ARE PERFECT. WHITE CHRISTIANS NEVER WERE AND ARE NOT NOW PERFECT, ALTHOUGH PERFECTION IS THE GOAL. CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE OFFERED TO ALL PEOPLE AS A GIFT, THEY CAN ACCEPT IT OR REJECT IT. THE BEST WAY TO CONVERT IS BY EXAMPLE. HAVING SAID THAT CHRISTIANS HAVE TRIED HARDER AND ATTEMPTED MORE TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS IN NON CHRISTIAN NATIONS THROUGHOUT HISTORY MORE THAN FROM WHAT IVE SEEN OF OTHER WORLD RELIGIONS.

      • Average Joe

        Well said!

    • eyeswideopen

      Alex, these people won’t even admit that the Christians started 5 of the 7 crusades. Just look at the hatred on this site, spewed by supposedly Christians. This is the reason Christianity is losing members. Down 10% in the past decade. We look like hypocrites and our actions are violent. You are correct. We automatically assumed that the attack was from Islam. Nope, it was a right wing radical Christian, who was a Freemason and wasn’t even poor. This is the result of right wing indoctrination of youth. Very, sad indeed.

  • Ridge Runner

    TML that comment in answer to you that god created adam and eve not adam and steve is as good as it gets.One man one woman to go forth and procreate more in his image.I feel sory for any one that is born a homosexual but to me they are not normal and are handicaped both physically abd mentaly and i don’t think any bodys children should be told different.don’t discriminate aginst them but don’t hold them up as an example of humanity.Some want like how i say this but i am another one that tries to be honest an say how i feel. If a man likes a hard dick more than he likes a loving woman that is his business and if a woman likes to licky de split more than she does a caring man that is her business.Just don’t tell me that i have to agree that it is good and natural.It is nasty and filthy and any doctor will tell you it isn’t healthy mentaly and physically. My feelings is if that is your piece of cake do it in private not in yhe public. Don’t parade it in public in front of young children.It shouldn’t be taught to the children in our public schools as being ok and natural. Teach them tolerance but do not teach them other wise.That is one of the problems in our country there is too many things that are imoral that are now being accepted as being ok.The children are not being taught correctly.If all they are taught is hate,spite and fight then they more than likely will be hoodlums.If they are taught to love and obey their parents and to respect their fellow man then they have amuch better chance to be productive and happier life.

  • Ridge Runner

    I think this homosexual life style maybe part of the problem in our fed gov.

    • DC/Tex

      For sure!!

  • jopa

    Jeffh I checked out your Focus Factor site and if the have you for an example of their products effectiveness, sucks to be them.JC: Perhaps you missed it but my point was in the last sentence of my post.Jeff has a tendency to try and convince people he is something he isn’t and comes off as a phony after you read enough of his posts, you realize he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.Then he comes on here and accuses others of being phony and misleading.I guess that’s his right and it’s keeping him out of trouble but the accusations of someone being phony to cover his own tracks just isn’t too cool.I know he can be a pain but means no harm to anyone.

    • JeffH

      jopa, I’ve no need for Focus Factor…that’s why I suggest you give it a try. You can attempt to lobby, or should I say beg, others here to substantiate your lies and poor memory but I think they’re a little smarter than you, have better memories and see right through your feeble and personal attempts to discredit me. Like I said, I can’t fool the fool…other than your ludicrous accustions which are typically a ploy of you liberals, you have nothing else that would substantiate your comments. Keep begging though, you might get eddie, eyes, denniso or coal miner to join in your little charade but you most certainly won’t get someone with the slightest hint of credibilty.

      Keep trying though, the hole you’re digging keeps getting deeper.
      As has been said many times by many people…ya just can’t fix stupid!

  • Song

    Well I can say this much, the recent tragedy in Norway is only going to make things worse, especially if you are Christian, white and consider yourself on the right! Without any detailed facts about the case the MSM is already running in high gear with this one, and the spin is in!

  • jopa

    Two posts back you were calling on DanAZ to back up your credibility, however he was ROTFLHAO just as I was to your post on buying ammo by the case, 500 rounds for less than $10 including shipping.The list goes on and on but I have more important things to do at the moment.So you just have a good one and take care.Adios for now amigo.

    • JeffH

      jopa, what can I say…you’re acting like a child. 500 rounds of what, 8mm(LMAO) for $10 including shipping? What’s an 8mm? In the typical fashion of a liberal, you make things up, make false accusations without one shred of truth or evidence and you expect someone, anyone, to believe you…you have zero credibility and you’re nothing short of desperate…get some help!

      Memory refresher: 9mm/115gr fmj @ $8.45/box of 50 + shipping, that was 10 boxes=500rds @ $84.50 + $9.99 shipping = $94.49 shipped, less than $10/box delivered…USA Ammo just so you don’embarrass yourself again.
      http://www.usaammo.com/9mm-C8.aspx

      • JeffH

        …oops, after further review I’ll make a correction on shipping charges so you won’t call me a liar…$12.88…still less than $10/box

  • jopa

    Song: What are you saying it was a Christian white conservative that bombed that building and killed all those people?What are your sources?

    • eyeswideopen

      http://www.shabooty.com/2011/07/22/anders-behring-breivik.php Here is his face book profile. Yep he is a Christian!

      • libertytrain

        eyes you have claimed to be a Christian – are you now saying we should fear you?

        • chuckb

          i believe eyes said she attended the synagogue some time back.

          • libertytrain

            a while back she proclaimed her religion and it wasn’t Judaism. It was Christian. But of course, she changes what she says she is on a regular basis.

          • DaveH

            Have you noticed how the main content of EyesWideOpen’s comments is digging for dirt? That coming from a member of the Liberal class who constantly whine about the content of Republican political ads.
            Her poor husband doesn’t have a chance.

          • libertytrain

            yep.

      • DaveH

        Exactly what are you saying, Eyes? Are you saying that one lone lunatic is representative of Christians?
        Are you trying to demonstrate bigotry at its finest, Eyes, in keeping with the subject matter of this forum?

      • Kate8

        Wrong. He says he’s Darwinian. Not religious at all.

        Why is it that everytime one of these deranged shooters gets pulled from the pool and activated, the Left starts accusing Christians and/or conservatives before anything at all is known.

        And your nearly always wrong.

        http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=325765

        • JeffH

          Kate8, that’s just a normal reaction by these liberal hacks. It’s expected and somewhat anticipated. Not surprising in the least!
          Remember, these are educated, highly intelligent and open minded individuals…at least that’s what they’re always telling the rest of us. Yeah, right!

  • Song

    Yes Jopa, according to his facebook account. You can bet there is a lot more to this story than what is being initially reported. However, it is enough to have certain people completely giddy over this news like Alex for one and eyes another, no doubt.

  • chuckb

    song, he reportedly is a christian, however, the news reported he was spaced out on heroin, sold to him by the jewish mafia, the heroin reportedly was sold to the mafia by al queda muslims. so who’s really to blame here.

  • jopa

    Song: I don’t believe anyone is giddy over this tragedy however the perp should be interrogated and find out what sparked this tragedy.So many parallels to the McVeigh massacre in Oklahoma City.

    • Song

      I just got off of newsvine Jopa and believe me, the anti-Christian, anti-right wing, anti-god and religion hatemongers are out in full force and yes they are “giddy” because it was a white man with blue eyes and blonde hair that claims to be Christian and lean toward the right that committed this autrocity. Yes, giddy, almost slap-happy Jopa because of who committed the crime.

      • JeffH

        Song, be carefull what you say on the Newsvine blog…they’re no afraid to block conervative, anti-left bloggers at all. If you don’t agree with the posters and repond in kind as they do, they will cut you off in a heartbeat.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    I think that it’s become quite evident as to who the real enemy of the freedoms and liberty of the American people are. They work and reside in that cess pool on the Potomac and call themselves the servants of the people. Some are elected and some just assume their power through appointments. They are mostly the enemy within and their goal is to destroy the America we love.

  • jopa

    Song: They even had on another site that said he belonged to what they call a Youth Wing Rightist Party over in Europe.He was a gun lover, Muslim hating, Christian extremists that loved to keep his powder dry.You never know what the next headline will bee.Texas and Florida had a couple of mini-massacres last night also.Nothing like Norway and Oklahoma City though.

  • http://n/a Joseph

    This administration, OBAMA especially wants to control the population, he is becoming like Stalin, Hitler, and Mao Tse Tong. He does not govern but he is a dictator. He wants people to bow and follow whatever he says or wants. He is egoistic and narcisstic FSOB.

  • Thinking About

    I read a story in a tabloid as I stood in the check out line about Martians coming to earth and gathering women to be mated with Muslim men and they thought your same thoughts. If your daddy is a Muslim you must be also.

  • jopa

    Murdochs World News press has been printing these stories for years and Fox news comes along and tells their viewers these are true facts.They finally did get some credible sources for news now they got busted for phone tapping and hacking computers.They may be in deep doo doo but if they are being investigated by Congress they need not worry.Look how many bankers got locked up after they ripped off the American public with the Bush bailout.

  • chuckb

    jopa, there you go again blaming bush, don’t you know how to spell barry soetoro. you and thinking must live on the same street. he gets his information from tabloids, you make yours up.

    • Thinking About

      Chuck here you are bashing someone which does not exist except in tabloid stories you continue to read and apparently believe. I am surprised you do not start your post with “once upon a time”.

  • chuckb

    once upon a time thinking said, “i bashed some one who did not exist except in tabloid stories,” so you are saying you and jopa live in the tabloids? i knew that already.

  • Thinking About

    Did not really you would understand and this goes along with your fairy tale story of fictional characters. Nothing wrong with fiction but truth is not fiction.

    • JC

      Barack Obama aka. Barry Soetoro was registered in a California school as a foreign exchange student. Its all part of the great lie that is “The Kenyan”.

  • Ronald Johnston

    The yellow bellies strike again.

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