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Democratic Leaders Attempt To Reshape Primary Schedule In Obama’s Favor

April 7, 2011 by  

Democratic leaders attempt to reshape primary schedule in Obama's favorIn hopes of paving the way for a polarizing GOP Presidential candidate, national Democratic leaders have asked Massachusetts lawmakers to push back their State's primary.

According to The Boston Globe, the Democratic National Party is hoping to reschedule the Massachusetts Presidential primary, which is currently slated for March 6, until later in the spring of 2012. Liberals fear that the Bay State's influence early in the election cycle will help boost the popularity of moderate candidates such as Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty, who they believe are more likely to give President Barack Obama the toughest challenge in the national race.

National Democratic leaders would rather see more a conservative candidate emerge as the GOP front-runner early next year. In theory, they believe that Obama would fare better against a far-right politician who may not appeal to independent or undecided voters.

However, Massachusetts legislators are not in favor of the delay. Secretary of State William Galvin said that there is "no appetite for it here."

William Mayer, a political science professor at Northeastern University said that these scheduling efforts by party leaders compromise the integrity of the election process.

“It is not a great thing when one party tries to set the rules to make it difficult for another party,’’ Mayer told the news provider.

In Florida, lawmakers are considering holding their primary on Jan. 31, according to the Miami Herald. Only four States — Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina — have been authorized by national party leaders to hold their respective caucuses or primaries before March 6. If Florida moves up their date, their delegation total at the Republican National Convention would be cut in half.

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  • K. D. M.

    Not a big suprize from a party full of liars and cheaters. I’m sure that if they could find a way the DNC would take away all of our voting rights and then declaire obama is king, pelosi queen and reid would be the prince/court jester. The dumbocrats can not compete fairly, lie, cheat and steal is the only thing they know.

    • jovianus

      Wow KDM…so you’re in agreement the Conservative movement doesn’t jive with mainstream America. If you supported any of the wacked out fringe candidates, you’d be in full support of anything knocking out the “liberals’ Romney and Pawlenty.

      But then, I agree with you, the Conservative ideology of give more to the wealthy, continue to allow them to skirt paying thier fair share, and have the middle class pay much more for that privilege is not anywhere near what Americans subscribe to.

      • http://personalliberty.com frank

        jovianus typical left loon spin. Come on now can’t you dopes come up with some new lies and diversions!.

        • bob wire

          True ! it’s old! and it seems to be the unending story coming from the GOP,~ so No! it won’t go away until the GOP quits attempting to take money from Granny and provide welfare for the wealthy.

          When they quit trying is when you will quit hearing about it!

          And No, ~ it’s not a diversion but an “In your face” issue.

          • http://personalliberty.com frank

            I guess in your face is like all the senators in Wisconson shirking the responsibilities and running to Illinois or the potus suing the state of Arizona for doing the job of the federal government or the potus stopping all oil drilling here but giving Brazil a few billion to drill and then saying we will be your best customer. Want more this is just the tip of the iceberg.Is this what you mean IN YOUR FACE? Oh thats right I WON sound familiar. What a crock!!!!!!.

          • jovianus

            Well Frank…given the election yesterday in Wisconsin where a sitting Supreme Court judge who supported Walker got tossed (incumbent judges rarely get tossed out)..I’d say those Dem Sens had the right viewpoint, especially with the recalls petitions against the GOP Senators being successful in registering. Loos to me like those Senators were doing what the people wanted…and not allowing the giveaways to corpoate interests and busting unions to occur.

            Arizona….ever see what the tourism business is doing these days in Arizona? And a state usurping Federal jurisdiction and creating uncommonality with the states…I’d say it was a correct move to establish commanlity in immigration enforcement.

            Of course we should be careful with our fishing waters. You’d rather we gave a pass and have a reoccurence of the Gulf Spill? You support the GOP apologizing to BP for making BP pay for the lost jobs and businesses ?

            And Brazil…sure thing. let’s keep the Middle East as our source of oil. or perhaps Venezula. Yep… that would be a wise thing. No diversification of sources for oil, stay dependent upon the ME and venezulan oil. Sure…yep. You think that’s a good move eh?

            And he did win. Which means he has the backing of the American people who rejected the GOP stance. You’d rather he shirked what the people who voted for him wanted?

            So now you’re upset because the Dems tried a trick to give Conservative GOP candidates more of a chance to win the nomination. Which means, you darn well admit the Far right ideology of the TP is a very minority view by the people. Otherwise, why oppose the move?

            What’s your reasoning there eh?

          • Patty

            Bob Wire – I truely believe that there are more things we agree on than don’t. It is just how to get there. We all probably agree to end corp. welfare, wars, waste, better education, earmarks, etc. It is just that the people (on both sides) are not taking us down those paths. We have thrown so much money at all of it, and none has helped. I don’t want to end helping people, I want to end having to support generational welfare. We need some new, fresh ideas. How about mom with 2 plus kids and the same amount of fathers, this is your deal. Here is your house, food, healthcare. You will show up 5 days per week, 8 hours per day to local tech, comm. college for the next 18 months. Your kids will be in the schools day care. You will be trained in SOMETHING. You will take a piss test, you will be assigned a full-time job after the 18 months if you cannot find one on your own. You can remain on assistance and your pay check will go directly to the state to offset your welfare benefits. All of the freebies are already in place (plus a few more in my state). The missing piece is accountability on their part. Do you think that might be a good start to revamping some of our system?

          • Patty

            Jovianus-That race is still to be decided. And right now, she is not ahead. http://www.rollcall.com/news/Wisconsin-Supreme-Court-Election-204651-1.html
            Why such sore losers. Trying to recall legitemately won races (senators) because you are such sore losers. To run another race is a waste of WI taxpayers money. Boy, you guys are good at that. WI voters picked their senators. What you are doing is saying that WI voters do not have a right to vote and pick who they want to represent them. If who you wanted to win didn’t, you want “do-overs”.
            That is so lame.

          • jovianus

            Patty…I just checked, it’s now 27 votes favoring Kloppenburg. interesting that an incumbent, who usually can win by a landslide, is in a neck and neck eh?

            As for recall…you’re saying the citizens shouldn’t have the right to petition for a recall? Seriously?

          • bob wire

            At only a 240 vote spread, a recount is warranted regardless the final count.

            It’s worthy consideration, she was out spent over 2 to 1 in campaign funding and a complete unknown.

            At the end of the day, Walker will be left to apologize for damaging the hopes and dreams of many people and wasting both precious time and money Americans can ill afford with his foolish heavy handed ways of conducting the states business.

            I’ve got one word for him, “Clown”

            and yes Patty, we have much in common but that’s not unusual, as so times only the “words” get in the way.

          • Patty

            I am saying that they had a vote. It has been decided and as far as I can tell it was a legit vote. Now, because something isn’t going their way, which by the way the voters voted for this change, they want to try to change it for themselves. People who work, don’t have the time to keep re-doing elections. They have businesses, families, jobs. They do not have the time to keep up with this unlike the paid for lobbyists, paid for protesters, paid for union people. What I am getting from you is that you want lobbyists, union thugs, professional protesters running this country. Not American citizens who have already voted, the decision has been made and now you want to try to change it. It reminds me of the new school they wanted to build here for 73 million. Voted down. 65 million. Voted down. 60 million. voted down. 55 million. voted down. 53 million, passed and I never even heard of that vote taking place. Passed. Not 1 computer, chaulkboard, desk. Went back up to 73 million. It is pathetic what people will do to get their way.

          • bob wire

            “I guess in your face is like all the senators in Wisconsin shirking the responsibilities and running to Illinois or the potus suing the state of Arizona for doing the job of the federal government”

            No Frank, in both of these incidents rule of law and proper legal procedure raised the eyebrow of legal prudence. So much so, a strong response deemed warranted by opposition.

            In other words “Let’s see your openers” as we are not convinced that you have them, while we all know you would enjoy continue playing you hand out, with feeble threats and we are suppose to be intimidated.

            You can bluff until you are called out and then you must present your cards.

            It’s just POKE, ~ and bluffing and how you play your cards determines the winner.

            If you don’t wish your buff called, play conservatively and quit show boating.

            Why be angry at others when your bluff in called?

            The Arizona legislature with in violation of “human rights” issues.

            The Honorable Walker has pushed the boundaries of the states parliamentary process and a ruling has yet to be forth coming.

            So cool your jets my friend, it’s just business.

          • Bruce D.

            Jovianus says: “Well Frank…given the election yesterday in Wisconsin where a sitting Supreme Court judge who supported Walker got tossed (incumbent judges rarely get tossed out)..I’d say those Dem Sens had the right viewpoint…” You may have put your foot in your mouth. He may not have got tossed and if not that would mean you agree that the Republicans got it right just to show how flimsy your argument is. In reality only 40,000 people will decide the fate of that judge. You would think more people in Wisconsin would care more about the children and the destructive union contracts concerning education that relies on tenure to allow incompetent teachers to retain their jobs.

          • Patty

            Who wants to travel to AZ when the federal gov’t. is posting these signs down there?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbeyHmWbQjs

        • Eddie47d

          Frank;I smell a skunk,actually two,you and KDM with the usual right wing jive and name calling. Right out of the gate so maybe you are the loonies. Was the issue too hard for you to debate?I don’t see where it makes much difference either way,except that it might mean more politics sooner.As if 24/7 isn’t enough already.

          • Patty

            Tell me, am I your usual right wing crap? Dare ya.

          • Eddie47d

            Gee Patty did I bring you name into it? I didn’t think so and crap is your word not mine. Since you did bring up sore losers and do overs how about that race in Alaska. Maybe Miller and Murkowski don’t count.Now that was grandstanding at it’s best.

          • Patty

            Eddie47-that race was so politically charged it wasn’t funny. Murkowski (sp) has deep political ties there. Her father is dirtier than my dog coming out of the swamp. Didn’t Palin beat him? Now he is a judge or something. And that was a recount not a recall.

          • Patty

            No. You didn’t. I was just wondering…

        • Conservative United

          NO they can’t. Liberals are too stupid!!!! They were educated in the Liberal Socialist Goverment Schools.

      • Mick

        jovianus

        Why don’t you get off your cloud for an instant and take a good look to what’s staring you in the face.
        After all of the manipulative maneuvers the democrats have constantly used over the years and their lack of ethics you still concentrate on defending their agenda.
        Are you part of citizens for America or are you part of the degenerate crowd out to support the wrong doers at any cost ?

        • jovianus

          “Are you part of citizens for America or are you part of the degenerate crowd out to support the wrong doers at any cost ?”

          Well Mick, I’m for America and Americans. Which is why I am against what the TPers, the corporate robots, and the American Taliban (i.e. Christian Right)are trying to establish.

          How about you?

          • Allan Halbert

            I guess your problem is that Tea Party supporters, people who work for corporations, and Christians ARE Americans. They just don’t agree with you. And they don’t envy people who have earned more than they have.

          • Bruce D.

            Jovianus you are not out for America and Americans. You have to redefine both to look at yourself in that manner.

      • JIBBS

        Sound like yo like supporting the government giving OUR money away, well, why don’t you use you money!

        • Eddie47d

          Jibbs; What did that sound bite have to do with the issue of changing dates for primaries? I hear alot of those sound bites repeated over an over and you’re not the only one.

      • BonnieMW

        You need to study the facts. Democrats catered to the Wealthy just as much as the Republicans. They also believe in catering to the poor just to get their votes. Creating a healthy economy and a economically balanced government is the only way the poor can escape their bondage to poverty. America needs to become the land of opportunity again and that can never happen while we are a welfare state. Give tax incentives for job creation and get our unemployment back to where it should be less than 1%. Every time someone is not working it lowers the standard of living for almost everyone.

        • Patty

          Donel – You know, Lincoln was a Republican and freed the slaves once. Now we are back trying to free them from the democratic party trying to “keep them down” and dependent on them. History repeating itself.

          • Patty

            Ooops. I meant that to Bonnie. Sorry.

      • Bruce D.

        Jovianus, Newsmax – “The combined federal and state rate in the U.S. is 39.2 percent of corporate profits, a new analysis by the Tax Foundation disclosed. When Japan, which currently has a rate of 39.5 percent, enacts a planned cut of 4.5 percentage points in April, America will have the highest rate of all the economies in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the group of 34 advanced nations with economies most comparable to the U.S.”

      • http://yahoo.com chas

        …Yup!!…Just ANOTHER Blue-shirted Liberal NAZI spewing cliches,slogans, non-sequiters because they ran out of INTELLIGENT resonses on KOS/ Huff-Po;Go BACK to your indoctrinated, misinformed/ uninformed/ malinformed “useless idiot” brethren so you can feel that warm, fuzzy feeling…WE KNOW who/ what you are and have “High-velocity LEAD injections” for what ails you!!…BEGONE!!!!!………

      • http://Google.com Gary Gerke

        The talking heads and the rest of the liberal progressives subscribe to Hitlers propaganda ministers self truths. Tell little lies long enough and loud enough, they will become truths in the minds of the masses.

    • Bruce D.

      Jovainus, The National Center for Policy Analysis, commenting on the Foundation’s report, observed: “As other nations enact reforms and rate cuts, the U.S. corporate rate will continue to stand out as a hindrance to economic growth and competitiveness unless lawmakers move to lower the tax burden for businesses.”

  • bob wire

    “In hopes of paving the way for a polarizing GOP Presidential candidate,”

    I fail to see that the GOP needs any help in this area. The GOP will shot itself in the foot regardless to the time of day.

    • Jeep

      You’re right, bob. It is an old adage that nice guys finish last. And, in today’s society when anyone tries to do the right thing, they get slammed for it. Thank you for pointing that out.

  • Raggs

    I hope that the people who voted for the jerk in 08 are a little smarter / wiser…

    • bob wire

      OH ! we are! We can’t help but wonder what a McCain/Palin administration might have got us into today.

      I fear McCain might have been serious about the job and “kicked the bucket” by over-reaching and exhausted himself with his attempt to clean up government and run off many of his old buddies and Palin would be sitting in the 1st chair today.

      I figure , we saved his life and America all in one stroke.

      • Raggs

        Why are you commenting to me?… I find you repulsive.. :)

        • bob wire

          Oh! ~ and I’m suppose to be somehow offended that you are repulsed?

          Think again sweetheart, I’ve accepted that it’s you nature disposition at this point and look on you with amusement as I would any ugly beast. What did God have in mind with your creation? Surely there a purpose and something good to be found but I’ve yet to find it.

          • Raggs

            AW,,, I found a way to get under your skin… Too funny :)

          • bob wire

            Only by your insistence, might it be so Raggs.

            Unlike yourself, I’m not here to prove anything but to offer resistance to the insane notion so much in our lives is “bad” and offer incentive for thoughtful discussion on the issues before us.

            So, ` may I ask, Why are you here ~ if not to prove something?

          • http://personalliberty.com frank

            Hey bob wire whats the matter baby poo the TRUTH HURTS you libs are an absurd crew.I must have gotten under your skin this morning especially jovianes because i guess she stayed home from work to write stupidity coming out of her liberally brain washed head and that goes for you too bob wire.then again maybe you two are on the obama goverment dole .In that case me and all true americans paid you today .Again you are HOPELESSLY LIBERAL lol!!!!!.

          • Raggs

            Not here to “prove” that is done by the mis-use of leadership.
            Prehaps I may be one of the people that are smart enough to know what the government is trying to do and the path this country is heading into… If you refuse to see, oh well ok but at least now you have an idea… I post here because people need to see behond the koolaid glasses.

          • bob wire

            Go outside Frank.

            Well Raggs what is happening today is only a small part of an unending story and I’m at some lose in knowing when you became aware of your surroundings, from what point of reference is “things” going to hell in a hand basket?

            But whatever, anger and hate has never solve anything but only fuels the flames of contempt and created only more confusion. Fear, uncertainty and lack of ‘faith” is the enemy.

            Things will never turn out “exactly as we wish” no matter how hard we might try, and a little tolerance and acceptance will go a long way in making things work better for everyone.

          • Raggs

            Typical liberal cop-out not to mention a bunch of bullshit.

      • JIBBS

        Well, atleast we see what your hero “got” us into…….a third war and he never kept his promise to end the other two wars, and all the money he gave away….how’s that CHANGE working for you?

        • bob wire

          It’s working as well as if McCain himself was driving the bus and maybe better!

          As McCain is into those topics hook, line and sinker. MCCain wants a 20 year occupational force in IRAQ and would probably have US boots on the ground in Libya by now.

          So whats your point?

          • Patty

            That is complete conjecture with no facts for base.

          • bob wire

            Obviously so, but if you follow McCain as I have, he has publicly stated these desires that I offer you today.

            So that makes it a tinny bit more the just wild “conjecture” on my part.

          • Patty

            And I think you are wrong. He has been to war (unlike your king) and does not appear to be any type of war monger to me. A little spineless actually. But, given what he has lived through, I can cut him some slack on that.

          • Patty

            Bob Wire – Is that kinda like being pregnant?

          • bob wire

            Well Patty, Mr. Rogers and Captain Kangaroo were survivors of the Normandy Beach landing and both decorated for their efforts,both Marines I believe, so things are not always as they might appear in the matters of mature men.

            While I tend to agree with you in regards to McCain, his public statements are for you read for yourself, he is very pro military until it comes to Veteran affair and paying for it.

            but like McCain once said. ” Never wrestle with a pig, you will just both get dirty and he likes it”

          • Patty

            BobWire – As usual your “facts” are wrong just like your politics. http://www.snopes.com/military/celebrities/leemarvin.asp
            Capt. K didn’t enlist in time to see any action and Mr. Rogers never served. Try Again.

        • http://Google.com Gary Gerke

          Jibbs, right on! You only touched on a few points of Obama’s failures to make good on his promises of change. This president is truly an enemy of the people who has radical hidden agendas that even the liberal progressives are not aware of yet.Obama’s pro Muslim doctrines will prove to be catastrophic for the American people and the nation.

    • jovianus

      Absolutely Raggs…I’m absolutely positive and can assure you most of those who voted for McCain are smarter/wiser and are absolutely thankful they didn’t get the GOP in power as they look at the actions of the Party of No since then.

      Astute of you to notice.

      • Raggs

        HA-HA ANUS HA-HA :)

        • Kate8

          Raggs – I really think he chose that name deliberately, because he’s crude and crass.

          He’s also probably gay.

          Jus’ sayin’.

          • Patty

            kate8 – No, I have seen him slam gays in other posts. Maybe he just has not come out of the closet.

          • Raggs

            I figure he has TWO ANUS’s… :) and having a hard time figuring out which one works the best.

          • Patty

            Raggs-:)

          • Raggs

            Patty… If you want to use the funny face this is how.

            : and then ) just trying to help and thanks for your comments….

          • Patty

            Raggs – Thanks. I know, I was just in a hurry and didn’t space. :)

      • Jeep

        I like the “party of no”…no more tax hikes, no more big govt, no more intrusion on Constitutional rights, no more being lectured like a schoolboy on how I should cut back while you get into your private jet…yeah, I like the party of no.

        • Patty

          Me too. They act like little children who don’t get their way. If they hound, scream, throw temper tantrums enough, the parents will give in. Hopefully, not this time. Like to back hand a couple though.

          • Jeep

            Patty, I like your style!

          • Patty

            Jeep/Kate8 – back atcha both!

        • Kate8

          Jeep – Me too. And not just no, but H*ll NO!

  • Ted

    Hey Bobwire

    All you have to do is read the US Constitution Article I section 8
    It defines the responsibilities of the federal government.
    If its not there then the fed should not be doing it or funding it.
    If you don’t start the conversation there, then you’ve already lost the argument!

    • bob wire

      I understand Ted and it makes me wonder at what point in time was this strictly honored by any administration?

      • Patty

        Bob Wire – And all of the wrongs are going to make a right? Nice. No wonder we can’t get past the finger pointing.

        • bob wire

          It was a simple enough question and if anyone truly gave a hoot, they’d look it up! As it presently stands, You are on record for one “Nanny Nanny Poo Poo” Patty ~ hahah ! Nanny Nanny Poo Poo Patty

          (sorry , I usually don’t toy with names. My apology)

          It’s a very good question and a response in part to a wise posters statement regarding the Constitution.

          Much like the question, what American President was the last President to fight US bankers to the mat? Do you know? Do you care? Are you the least bit curious?

          • Patty

            No.

  • David in MA

    obaamaa jumped the gun to announce he is running for
    re-election trying to get an edge, but he will not be
    the DNC nominee and he knows it, slick willie is going
    to make sure hag hillary will be,no one wants four
    more years of obaamaaville,not even the corrupt
    social demonCrats…..

    The bus is coming, obaamaa……bye!

    And Trump is going to be the next prez (depending on who is the V.P. pick), otherwise it will be Ron Paul.

    • Raggs

      I think we will see Trump as an independant and Pawlenty from the GOP.
      Either one of which have a damm good chance of dethroning obama.

      • Patty

        Raggs – Do you remember Mondale. Pawlenty would be the same thing. I live in MN and could never vote for him. His sudden new found connection to the tea party is just that. He certainly did not govern that way. Look else where for a candidate. Just like we can’t produce a winning sports team, we cannot produce a viable candidate.

      • crystal

        I don’t know. I like the way Trump is relating the problems with China to the country, but I have a funny feeling he’s also just enjoying the popularity also. I could be wrong though.

        • Patty

          I am really liking Trump. He has way more to lose as being Presisent than just keeping his mouth shut and going about his business. I think he really cares about what is going on. He deals internationally and he is tired of being embarassed by the policies being put forth or lack of.

          • Kate8

            Patty, Maybe. It’s all calculated deception these days.

            The thing is, the uber-rich will be okay no matter what becomes of America. The elite class already has their future assured (unless God has other plans for them).

            Pretty soon they won’t need us anymore. Which one of them will put his neck on the chopping block for the the unwashed?

            Nada.

          • Patty

            True Kate. I just don’t want to believe that we really are not a free people and that we are all puppets on a string.

          • bob wire

            You all are dreaming about Trump, matters of foreclosure and blind trust rule it out any possibility.

            And freedom is a small word that means many different things to different people.

            Nobody is free, you don’t want to be free. To be free is to be dead! and I’m not completely sure if even then you are free as you are a small part of a whole in life and in death.

            like Janice tells us, “freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose” Do you feel like you have nothing to lose?

          • Kate8

            bob wire – there’s a good chance it’s going to come to that real soon.

          • Patty

            Great. A quote from an alcoholic acid-head that can’t carry a tune.
            Wait, I just described MYSELF! :)

    • Conservative United

      And I would love to hear Donald tell the ILLEGAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE…….YOUR FIRED!!!!!

      • Patty

        Wouldn’t that be great for his acceptance speech.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    Don’t worry, if the Democrats can’t gerrymander an election date, they will enlist the dead to vote on their behalf in the midwest, as they have in the past and continually do, while Eric Holder’s DOJ does nothing, or have their Union supporters rig the voting machines they have charge of maintenance over, as they did in Nevada and South Carolina in the 2010 elections. They have made it a practice on winning elections without the support of the majority of the living voters. They can’t gerrymander voting districts, for they lost majorities in most all states, but they continually come up with new ideas to rig elections, as the one turned down by Massachusetts.

    • Patty

      That is because rules do not apply to them. The end justifies their means.

      • bob wire

        Rules apply to everyone. These things both party’s are guilty of doing. They attempt to slipping something thu at 4:55 pm on a Friday and slide under the news cycle and radar, while many people have skipped out early for reasons all their own. Many People do that you know, leave work a few minute early especially on Friday.

        and the “BLUFF” They may attempt to do as they please if no one tells them that they can’t, just like children.

        it’s just politics and there are few “GOOD GUYS” THAT WIN consistently.

        accept it at so, and don’t act so “SHOCKED” ~ “I’m JUST SHOCKED”

        The best place to get snake bit is in a den of snakes.

    • jovianus

      Ummm…let me guess. You haven’t checked the number of cases of voter fraud in the ’00. ’04 and ’08 elections and who, in each election, was the culprit … if you had, youd not make such an ignorant statement.

      Have a great day !

      • Mick

        jovianus says:
        April 7, 2011 at 9:53 am
        Ummm…let me guess. You haven’t checked the number of cases of voter fraud in the ’00. ’04 and ’08 elections and who, in each election, was the culprit … if you had, youd not make such an ignorant statement.

        Have a great day !
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
        jovianus,,,how about naming some of those fraud cases on both sides and see who wins ………….

      • JIBBS

        And the Black Panther’s are not violating any law’s, you really are blinded by the dems.

      • Patty

        Jovianus – I checked. There were allegations by sore losers with no concrete proof or evidence. Opinions and conjecture from sore losers. That is a little bit different than documented black panthers standing outside of voting places and video taped voter registration fraud. Give me some thing concrete. I just did.

        • Eddie47d

          How is that voter registration fraud if people are going to the polls to vote? You generally can’t register the day of the election. Besides you all love blowing up the B.P. issue when nothing happened.If they had actually intimidated someone (stopping them from voting) then you would have a case.That never happened and they didn’t even have any political signs supporting one candidate over another.There were only two men standing about 30 ft. from any door and one of them lived there. There was easy access to entering and voting. That leaves one person you are so scared of which means you are intimidated very easily.I don’t care for the new B.P.’s but the Right is making a mountain out of a mole hill. I’ve seen a Klan rally and trust me they are far more intimidating and vile.

        • Jeep

          Didn’t ACORN just plead GUILTY to voter fraud in the last day or two?

      • Patty

        Jovianus-still waiting….put some facts where your mouth is.

        • patty

          Still waiting……

  • Raggs

    Talking about the unions… I have a question for any legal minds..

    Fox reported that a union group in WI is threatening business owners with a boycott if they fail to place signs in support of the unions in their shop windows… To me I can see where this would be classified as extortion / blackmail… Chicago style mob tatics.

    • Patty
      • Raggs

        Good link however my question remains… I believe it to be illegal for the unions to strongarm tatics and threats to business owners, they should be jailed!

        • Patty

          That is exactly what the ACLU, J. Jackson, Sharpton and the like do. They go to large corporations and strong arm them into large donations to their organization or threaten them with boycots also.
          http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1655301/posts

        • Patty

          For corporations, it is easier to just give the money than to fight them. Like lawsuits that get settled out of court. It is cheaper to just pay them than run up the legal bill.

          • Raggs

            Sad, but I can believe that and I’m sure we can expect holder and obama to be on that ride as well.

          • Patty

            I’m sure they are. Only they have Soros.

          • Patty

            Also, ACORN is now flying under Citizens Services, Inc. : http://theunionlabelblog.com/tag/citizens-services-inc/
            So the voter fraud can continue….

        • Patty
    • jovianus

      No more than when the Wacked right do the same tactics…(see e.g Duke Power and the call to unseat the CEO)

      • Patty

        Jov-Are you taslking about the union thugs? Joseph Yablonski was a passionate, populist union representative who was loved by many of the miners. Yablonski challenged W. A. Boyle for the presidency of the UMWA in 1969, but lost in an election widely viewed as corrupt. Later that year, Yablonski and his family were found murdered in their home. Tony Boyle is shown early in the film in good health. Later he is seen frail, sickly and confined to a wheelchair, being carried up the courthouse steps to face a conviction for giving $20,000 to another union executive council member to hire the killers.

        Read more: http://www.kosmix.com/topic/Harlan_County,_USA#ixzz1IrDIW5OM

      • Patty

        Jov-Company hired people to protect their private property. Remember what that is, I mean private property.

        • jovianus

          Ummm..it’s the Right wing fanatics (not sharegholders…there’s a concetrated and organzied campaign by several ‘non profit” corps) who want to unseat the CEO of Duke power…for nothing more than being Chair of the Dem. Convention being held in Charlotte…location of Duke Power’s corporate HQ …

          But what the heck, nthing wrong with that is there…

          • Patty

            WTF are you talking about? Did you just get back from your electric shock treatment or what? Can you be anymore incohesive?

    • Mick

      Raggs says:
      April 7, 2011 at 9:08 am
      Talking about the unions… I have a question for any legal minds..

      Fox reported that a union group in WI is threatening business owners with a boycott if they fail to place signs in support of the unions in their shop windows… To me I can see where this would be classified as extortion / blackmail… Chicago style mob tatics.
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      Raggs,, Don’t forget intimidation and soon we will see a form of freedom loansharking..

      • Raggs

        Yeah no doubt we will see the black panthers gathering like vultures at poll locations… By then I’m sure we can expect the unions to be in front line defence with something larger than billy clubs.

        • Patty

          Bring it on baby! Lock and Load.

          • Raggs

            Exactly!

    • Eddie47d

      I will agree it should be a business’s choice to put a sign in their window. I wouldn’t want any political signs in any shops window. The signs did say “This business supports workers rights”. Hardly offensive since everyone who works is a worker.Nothing wrong with soliciting support but that could have been done without the signs. I’ve seen where boycotts work and in some cases where they backfire. So far nothing illegal so I guess we’ll have to wait and see. We can’t arrest someone just because your feelings are hurt.

      • Patty

        Everyone in town knew who printed up those signs and what they meant. Why can’t they leave them alone to run their business? If they wanted a sign, I am sure they would have gladly delivered one. They were using strong arm tactics to force those signs on business’. Usual democrat mob mentality.

        • Eddie47d

          There you go labeling Democrats and mob mentality.What a mouth full for you. Maybe if certain companies paid a decent living wage and didn’t give so heavily to Republican causes you would be more believable. Since the Koch Brothers stepped in to influence the Wisconsin election process you really don’t have a stool to sit on.You don’t squeal much when your side does it.

          • Patty

            Well Eddie, that is who is doing it. Democrat, labor unions their gov’t. employees. What would you call it??? And you keep pushing those Koch brothers. They certainly did not give that much to any campaign including the gov. Unlike Soros who has pushed his agenda for billions and got Nobama elected by donating millions. Why don’t you ever bring that up?

          • Patty

            Eddie – do you have any idea what it takes to start a company? To maintain a company? To make a payroll? If you are not getting paid what you think you are worth, go out and make your own company and earn it on your own. No balls, no blue chips.

          • Raggs

            Patty… why should ed work when the table is full of free food?

          • Patty

            Raggs – No kidding.

          • Eddie47d

            What is that supposed to mean?

          • Patty

            Eddie47-Entitlements.

      • Patty

        Eddie47 – Here is for your innocent BS verbage.
        “This business supports workers rights” – with a prominent AFSCME logo below that.” Now, they face the reality of a boycott by the public sector union.
        http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/wisconsin-businesses-stand-up-to-union-thugs-reap-rewards
        Isn’t it IRONIC that the businesses don’t have the right to boycot their sorry a$$’?

  • Freddie

    jovianus – The rich pay the vast majority of the taxes in this country. Most Americans (and illegal immigrants) pay no federal income tax. Many Americans get all back and then some (EIC). For the most part, all of our politicians are crooked, regardless of party affiliation.

    • jovianus

      And just exactly how much wealth per capita is the difference?

      Gawd..what a tired worn out disporven mantra. As if the wealthy receive no beenfits from the society we have. Sure…let’s give ‘em special tax rates and bear the cost ourselves.

      Tell me…if a guy makes $1,000,000…and the rates are effectively raised on him 3%…this cuts BILLIONS off the deficit spending and costs that guy 430,000.

      Are you telling me a) he’ll not spend as much; b) that will cost jobs because he didn’t do the usual investment overseas or in tax shelters?

      Can you tell me why GE should not pay any taxes this year? Can you legitimize that US corporations pay an effective tax rate ranked in the lower third of all countries?

      Can you legitimize why i should pay more so the wealthy get more?

      Didn’t think so,…

      • JIBBS

        3% of $1000,000 is only $3,000. Go back to math class.

        • JIBBS

          err, 1,000,000 – 3% = 3000,000

        • jovianus

          The $ didn’t come out instead came out as a 4. But Jibbs…3% of $1,000,000 is $30,000. Maybe you’re the one needing math…I need typing class…

      • Patty

        Can you tell me why GE was one of the biggest backers of Nobama? You spew constantly about corporate welfare. Your guy is in there and he is giving out corporate welfare to GE, Goldman Sacs and Soros corporations faster than anyone. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. And no, I don’t think there should be corporate welfare. Small companies like mine certainly do not benefit from it. But, if you do the research, most of the companies getting that corporate welfare are backed by unions workers.

        • Mick

          Patty

          Trying to tell the truth to hard core liberals is futile,their dolt mode has been in practice for too long……………

          • Eddie47d

            Going after G.E. should tell you that liberals aren’t bought off so easily. We still expect them to pay their fair share unlike the Republicans who find loopholes for them.

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – As usual, you don’t understand the tax code. I do not pay taxes on my company either. My profits get shifted to me personally on what is called a K-1. I then pay the taxes for my companies profits, therefore, my company shows no profit. Which is the same as GE. Those miserable stock holders got to pay the tax personally.
            http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/04/04/am-report-ge-will-pay-taxes-after-all/

          • jovianus

            Actually Patty, maybe you should be educated about issues before spouting. GE took advantage of two sections of the IRC..one passed in ’97 as a one time deal which was extended every year at the behest of GOP reps, the other was a section of code specifically inserted for multi national conglomerates like GE. It affected..get this, 6 corproations. That’s it. 6. And it was the major section which allowed a multi national to say they made no taxable profits…FYI…that was passed in 2002 by the GOP dominated Congress.

            Has nothing to do with K1s.

            Try again…next time be knowledgable of the issue before spouting off.

          • Patty

            Jov – You are talking tax fraud. Which is not the same.

      • Patty

        Jovianus – I work with several people who make a million plus a year. If you add all the taxes together that they pay, it totals over 50% (federal, state, medicare, property, etc, etc) How much, what % do you think they should give up? All of these people work 24/7, not 9-5, part-time, or not at all(welfare), so what exactly do you think is “fair”? Give me a number, give me a %.

        • Thamera

          Great comments Patty…I think you’ll be waiting for quite a long time for any facts out of Jovi and the like. I would love to see them answer just one of your questions factually, but I won’t hold my breath :)

          • Eddie47d

            Okay Thamera have Patty prove that there is voter fraud with Citizen Services.Assumptions don’t count!

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – Now try to follow along. I pointed out that ACORN was engaged in voter fraud and since they have been defunded, they are now flying under a new flag which is Citizens Services, Inc. Not whatever you said.

          • Eddie47d

            You didn’t answer my question about Citizens Services. So prove the fraud. This is 2011 you know?

          • Jeep

            Thamera, eddie has a simple mind, so he needs a simple answer (which, like a child he will not accept anyway) but, here goes. ACORN pled GUILTY to voter fraud just this week (yes, 2011). But, they are claiming bankruptcy, and are transforming into a new group called Citizens Service…okay, now breathe out.

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – Maybe this will help you. http://theunionlabelblog.com/tag/citizens-services-inc/

          • Patty

            Thamera – They rarely answer me anything straight because they don’t have a leg to stand on, try to confuse and deflect. They always throw that general liberal BS mantra out there with no facts. They don’t answer because they have no answer or facts.

          • Eddie47d

            That would be like attacking the Republican Party because of Watergate and forcing them to disband. Hey that’s not a bad idea.

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – As usual, irrelevant. Prove a point and you deflect and change the subject.

        • Eddie47d

          Patty; Since the salaries of CEO’s went up 3-7% while the economy tanked in that same period, (2008-2010) I believe at least 3% should be permanently added to their tax base. $100,000 is plenty for the average family to live on so anything above $250,000 is really stretching it. Those raking in the millions of dollars are absolutely obscene.

          • Patty

            That is pathetic. Let us take it down to your level. Let us say you make widgets. You get paid the same no matter how many widgets you produce. Would you produce more or less? Would you have an incentive to find a better way to produce those widgets? Would you find a way to produce more widgets? No. There is no reward. The same for people who run businesses. Why do it when you get no gain from it?
            You are leveling people down below mediocrity. The cream shall rise to the top. Obviously, you are the string cheese.

          • Eddie47d

            Hell they make money whether they win or loose. Do you read the newspapers at all? It’s the workers (who you seem to loath) who get whacked and left with nothing. You are the one with a weak comparison with your widgets whom the workers make and not management. Yet you slam unions who help workers have better pay for making more widgets.

          • Jeep

            “…$100,000 is plenty for the average family to live on so anything above $250,000 is really stretching it. Those raking in the millions of dollars are absolutely obscene.”

            In the name of all that is righteoous, who died and made you god? Who are you to judge what is obscene, fair, or otherwise. This is America. I have had enough of all you socialists. You are a hypocritical and need to get off the govt teat. You and your ilk have been a drain on freedom loving Americans long enough. How can you possibly look in the mirror without up-chucking?

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – Unions are passe. I have employees, non of whom would consider a union. I also compensate my employees for what they produce. You produce more, you get more. You get me a new client, you get a cut. You need a fan at your desk because you have hot flashes, I’m there and providing it. They love me, and I love showing them that I appreciate them and what they do. Good companies treat their employees with respect and appreciation. Bad companies will go under because they will not find good employees. Unionizing makes bad companies last longer and the people working for them are slaves whether unionized or not. If it was a bad company before, bringing in a union is not going to make them a good company. It just makes everyone get smarter and more devious.

          • Eddie47d

            That’s funny Jeep you also attack unions when most don’t make over $100,000. Who are you trying to fool?

          • Jeep

            No eddie the socialist, I’m pretty sure you read my post wrong. Unions in private industry are acceptable, to a point. In fact, I haven’t mentioned unions in a while.

            But, I would be intersted to know if you would be willing to tell my housekeeper or nanny that they are no longer employed because you would confiscate my salary. I am not “rich”, but the income I make does directly affect those who I have hired. So, if you want to limit me to under 100k, then I guess I need to start firing people and tell the contractors working on my house that they won’t get paid either, the waitress at dinner will not get tipped, etc. But, that’s okay, because you will have plenty of money to send to them as welfare payments. Great job eddie! You’ve fixed the problem with the “poor”!

          • Patty

            100% with you on that Jeep! Why do they insist on cutting off their nose to spite their face?

          • Jeep

            Patty, they “insist” because Economics 101 is not for the liberal socialist mind. Their feeble capacity to understand the most basic principles of economics is limited to the handout mentality. In other words, to eddie and his ilk all good things come from Washington. And, don’t forget that jealousy has much to do with eddie’s mindset. He is so envious of anyone who has more than him that he will cheaply sell any morals he has to villify his neighbor as “having too much” and insist that the govt “level the playing field” (otherwise known as “tax the rich and give it to me” syndrome.)

          • patty

            Jeep – I have leveled a few things with my shot gun….

        • jovianus

          Patty…know what I say if you’re telling millionaires pay 50% plus in taxes? I’ll say you lie.

          • Patty

            Jovi-You can kiss my a$$. I personally e-filed more than 500k at year end to the feds and state for more than 1 client making a trifle over 1 mill. And this was above what they had already paid in over the year. So don’t tell me I lied. You just can’t handle the TRUTH. You just keep drinking that liberal kool-aid baby.

        • Patty

          COME ON EDDIE47 – I PROVED IT SO BRING IT ON BABY! And here is for your little innocent sign for WI businesses:http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/wisconsin-businesses-stand-up-to-union-thugs-reap-rewards
          BOYCOT UNIONS! BOYCOT DEMOCRATS!

          • Patty

            I emailed that lady at the Village and told her that I would personally buy anyone a sign like hers to put in their window. I think she made it herself. She can up charge me and make a couple of bucks on each one. Capitalism, Entrepreneurship, OOOOHHH bad words, bad words.

      • Jeep

        BLUF, jovi, eddie, bob wire, anyone advocating a progressive tax system (like we currently have) is advocating one of the basic tenets of socialism. Period. You cannot argue it, it is what it is. You are advocating a socialist tenet. So, just go all the way and stop playing with words, and admit to your socialist tendencies. Then, we can all have a civil discussion on Capitalism vs. Socialism. I have had enough of your deception.

      • Raggs

        ANUS.. your over your head on this question.

      • Allan Halbert

        The solution to fair taxes is to simplify the tax code. But LP’s still fundamentally don’t want others to have more than they do. We’re going to find out in the next few years if there are more people who believe in communism or capitalism.

  • crystal

    If Obama has to go through all of this to win. He knows he is a loser.

    • Mick

      crystal says:
      April 7, 2011 at 10:12 am
      If Obama has to go through all of this to win. He knows he is a loser.
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

      crystal too bad the liberals don’t know that .

  • http://com i41

    What party has the most fed elected muslims in it? The dems preach the muslim mantra “means justifify the ends”. Onumnutts can not open his pie hole with out lying non stop just like all democraps do all the time. I doubt if there is too many jackwads that voted the first time for the muslim marxist moron, to vote any different. The only chance is maybe some of the college degreed snot nosed idoits might have a possible change of veiw on this jug eared pukes of soros socialist democrat party. jovanus, GE didn’t pay any taxes because it took 138 billion of taxpayers money to China to create jobs for the yellow perel. They bought land equipment and hired people over there instead of here in the USA, plus Jeff Imelt has been a rump ranger for the Onumnutts since day one. If the funds would have been used in the USA, think how much building and work would have been created. Since all democrats don;t ever do any business or are private business persons, the deductions for businessesare need to give a break for “taxes”. It is not like buying a match box peice of crap. As for your facts as corporations pay lower taxes than other countries, don’t know who blew smoke up your rear, but the tax rates on corporations is the highest you f–king no minded idoit. Don’t like GE crap of not paying taxes, thank you jug eared marxist muslim moron and the tax codes written by your grease ball buddy, Tax Cheat Rangel. Now with the Banking Reform Bill passed by the soros socialist democraps and signed off by Onumnutt, all done by the s–t bird democraps.

    • Meteorlady

      GE is not the only corporation that doesn’t pay taxes. There are a lot of them that book money off-shore. One CEO said that the corporate tax rates are high and that when they try to bring the money they make from overseas sales back into this country for expansion and growth they are taxes at around 35%.

      We have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world today. Maybe, just maybe if we lowered it they might come back and support us again? Japan is the highest and they are looking to lower their to get some businesses back. I think it’s time to re-write the tax laws and start supporting businesses again. The cry to tax the rich is getting old, they already pay most of the taxes today. If we keep squeezing them, they will just relocate or put their profits offshore.

      If we are truly ready to get our economy going and our debt down we need to down size our federal government. They are so far over the line as to what their original charter was that we can no longer differentiate between their laws and state rights. When the federal government starts using our tax dollars to sue state over immigration, it’s time to stop and take a good look at what they are about because obviously they are not about us.

      State used to take care of education, welfare, health care and other programs until the federal government stepped in and took over costing the states billions of tax dollars for services that have eroded over the time.

    • Patty

      i41-OMG. I live in MN and when I saw that Keith Ellingson (1 district away) on the news and what he said I got sooo angry. What an idiot. King was trying to do what the Muslims in MN want to be done. 20 Muslim men disappeared from our state and their families want it stopped. They were getting them to enlist by the imam’s in the MN mosques to go and fight in the MEast. 6 are known dead now.
      http://minnesota.publicradio.org/standard/display/project_display.php?proj_identifier=2009/06/01/somali_community
      I emailed him what I thought and now I see he is back peddleing.

      • Eddie47d

        I actually agreed with King in principle that the Muslim community needs to be aware who is in their midst and don’t be fooled by the al Qaeda elements that have infiltrated the Mosques. They are small in numbers but strong in ideals. Now Rep Ellison was only only trying to tone down the fear from the other side and not to be labeling all Muslims with the same wide brush. I agree with both points.

        • Patty

          No. What he did was totally ignore and turn away from the Muslim population in MN to lambast the same old liberal mantra. Don’t ask me, ask them and by that I mean the Muslims in MN missing family members.

  • Meteorlady

    I am sick of the election process in this country. It is so polluted with special interest and party affiliations that we are no longer free to vote someone we desire into office unless they are hand picked to run by either of the two parties. The Democrats are the worst, they redistrict whenever possible to sway the election. In Washington state for instance, they have redistricted (because they have Democratic Governors) a number times until the carry the four or five most populated counties in the state. The entire East side of the state might vote all Republican but they loose EVERY SINGLE TIME because of those four of five counties..

    In Texas we have the two step. The Democrats participate in the primary and then after that they have caucuses. It’s bad for the voters because most can’t or don’t attend the caucuses. In the last election Clinton won in the primary, but Obama won in the caucuses and that’s who the delegates from Texas supported. So much for voting….

    If I was President, I would not allow lobbyists; I would not allow PACS, unions or corporations to give money to any person running for office or any party; and only registered voters could contribute to a campaign or party. Only registered voters in each state could contribute to people running for office in THEIR STATE or for their representative in congress. In our last election, the Democrats threw all kinds of money in for the Texas governor’s race supporting White. He also got lots of money from national unions and PACS. That is inequitable for the voters and should not happen. Government employee unions should not be able to contribute anything as they gain a huge advantage over the elected official when negotiation happen.

    I think anyone that is running for national office should be able to do so. We also need to count popular vote, not the crap they give us. The Democrats have “super delegates” which means that even if your state votes for one candidate, they can step in and change the candidate that won for one that they back as a party.

    Bottom line here is that we have two parties that the media supports, one more than the other, and we are stuck with that right now. They do no give equal time to the other parties and we have at least 15 of them the last time I counted. These parties deserve to be heard just as much as Republican and Democrats. I believe that the two party system we have now has sold out and will never be honest again.

    • Eddie47d

      I agree with most of what you said but I hear the same complaints about Republicans shuffling districts around to suit the vote. Outside money comes from all sides is everywhere even in small seemingly minor elections.It really is madness and the country seems to loose more trust in the whole process.

      • Patty

        Agreed. Which is why we need to get rid of career polititians. I can’t believe that polititians are getting just as generational as welfare recepients.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Meterolady — YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. I do not like all caps but I had to do this.

  • Steve

    Jovial Anus, are you admitting that you are so stupid that you don’t know that G.E., AIG. Soros, and quite a few other big corporations are just as socialists as the O-bum-duh administration?
    Why is it that all of these socialists/communists claim they want to redistribute the wealth to the people when in fact all they want to do is redistribute it to themselves and their cronies?
    I wish all of you Obama supporters would wake up and realize that socialism/communism does not work and that rather than their lies that they want to make everyone equal that what they really want is to have a dictatorship and only a select few would have power and the rest of us would be subservient and depending on their handouts (it’s called slavery). A look back at history proves this as long as you read REAL history books and not the propaganda that passes as history nowadays which seems to be the kool-aid they’re giving you and that you’re greedily gulping down by the bucketful.

    • Eddie47d

      Sure there are a few companies that are socialist leaning but far and few between. Most are crony capitalists and lean to the right and support the Republican point of view. Some of you love throwing in this communist crap to inflame folks.So who is really operating the propaganda machine?

      • Jeep

        Then why is it eddie that the big “wall street” firms like GS and others give more than 2-1 $ to Democrats in the last election? Why is that, if Reps are sooo in bed with them the gap in giving to Dems keeps growing? And, why is it under Oman and a Dem house and senate they are reporting record profits? Why does GE pay NO corporate taxes (yes, they put a big fat zero into the treasury), and yet the head CEO was appointed to a special Oman commission on getting more corporate taxes? Please, eddie…figure it out.

        • bob wire

          I don’t know that they do. But hedging your bets is a common practice.

          it’s win , place and show. ~ It’s never been about all or nothing except to a novice Jeep.

          Politics is much more complicated then that.

          Don’t look for a smoking gun in a house fire.

          Some of these houses has many politician holdings at ransom.

          The reason why, are endless.

          • Jeep

            It’s easy to make accusations and say “it’s complicated” when you’re the “winner”. Socialist Progressives are quick to say that the world isn’t “black and white, it’s kind of grey.” Sorry, but that kind of thinking has gotten us 14 trillion in debt in a world that is no longer safe for anybody. Notice I am not accusing Dems or Reps, just those who compromise on absolute moral values and have no integrity. There are plenty of areas that we can all agree on, but only on the face of it. As an extreme example, social welfare programs sound great, we can all say we want to help the “poor”. But, then we must pay for it somehow. So, we raise taxes from someone and TAKE their money to give to the underprivilidged. This is simply wrong. Notice the word “TAKE”, call it a tax, call it revenue, call it what you want, it is legalized theft. Period. The Democrat Party has been hijacked by extreme left winged, progressive socialists. I hope you got a warm welcome to their club.

          • Patty

            Jeep – It is the con shell game. Now you see it, now you don’t. Democrats have mastered the game.

          • Patty

            Bob Wire – I have delt TX Holdem for a while. You don’t know much about poker. And the one with the Ace in the whole, rarely wins in that game.

  • Dusty

    What if the boy doesn’t make it to the election?? There is a budget crisis left by the dems from last year and the boy has to get in his taxpayer paid for jet and fly off to a wind farm to help the blades spin with more hot air… Way to take the lead Prez and display for the nation your contempt for the founders and their ilk.

  • Patty

    And those loopholes were all put into place by republicans? Sure.
    How can you expect regular Americans to pay taxes when the ones in charge refuse to do it? http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/01/14/59703/were-geithners-unpaid-taxes-errors.html#
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/02/house-votes-censure-rangel-ethics-violations/#

  • Raggs

    Ya know…. It is obvious that obama does not give a flying shit about America. He cares more about getting to keep his throne than he does about passing a budget or fiscal responsibility… He and his democommunist could have passed a budget last year when they controlled both house and senate but failed to do so because the Novemeber elections were near and they were scared… So now they continue to fail, this time blaming the GOP… I think that he is a sick fool along with his shadow government.

    • bob wire

      yea, you have said that before, on many occasions in fact.

      In the very beginning before the election, “O” said, “This is not about me”, “but about America” ~ and

      ever since then, people like yourself has been attempting to make it about him.

      • Raggs

        Oh did I forget soros?… sry…

  • Donel

    Rshape for Obama +Thousands Illegal Aliens Voted in Colorado =

    WOULDN’T BE A BIT SURPTISED IF DEMOCRATS AND THE UNION DID LIKEWISE
    IN WISCONSIN FOR SUPREME COURT WHICH GOT KLOPPENBURG ELECTED.

    Reshape + Thousands Illegal Aliens = THEIR WAY.

  • http://personalliberty.com frank

    Hi bob wire the word is BLUFF not BUFF no problem Obozo does the same thing without his telepromter lol at you libs.

  • jopa

    Trump will not be a serious contender for the presidency.He would have to let the world know his true wealth and it is no where near what he wants people to think it is.He would need help from the Koch brothers and that to him would be embarrassing.He has to do the TV shows for the money believe it or not.He is just in it for the publicity now.

    • Allan Halbert

      How can you possibly know any of these things?

      Reminds me of the woman in Arizona who “knew” that David Letterman wanted to marry her, and tried to sue him when he ignored her. Even a jerk like Letterman didn’t deserve that.

    • Patty

      Jopa – Here you guys go again. All conjecture and no facts. I bet he does run and I am looking forward to it!

  • chuckb

    jopa, he sure has your hero squirming. the investigators in hawaii may cause barry some headaches and what can the media say. it’s all quiet on the western front.

  • Marlene

    Sure looks like William Mayer sees through the Dems sneaky tactics like a window. Too bad the liberals posting here don’t have such clarity of vision. Just saying……….

  • http://personalliberty.com frank

    hello jovianus guess what your person in wisconsin is way behind .Iguess you spoke too soon .But have no fear you libs will find alot of votes in trunks of cars like you did with Al Franken in Minnesota!!!!!.

  • Live Free

    They are running scared because they know they will loose miserably in 2012. HAHA

    • Patty

      We can only hope for the best!

  • JimH

    The thing about presidental primary’s are the first group of voters get to choose from a large group of candidates. As they go on the weaker ones fall along the wayside. The last states don’t get much choice when it gets to them. It seems the same states go early and the same states go late every time. Just for fairness sake maybe the ones who go first one year should go last the next time and let the later state get the first chance.

    • Raggs

      Well maybe it would be a good idea if or when you voted it would count?

      imagine that… BUT people to the likes of a thug-o-crazy where you only count when you have a union behind you as such we have.

      I do admit one thing the far crazy left has correct… This will be the turning point in the history of this country and the left is dammed. It is either that or we live under a dictatorship.

    • http://deleted Claire

      JimH — And some of the “weaker” ones fall by the wayside because of the MSM. The MSM focuses on “their” choices.

      • JimH

        Hi Claire, You are right. The MSM does what it can for “their” choices. In 08 Obama got 80% of the coverage for his campaigne over McCains 20%.
        It just seems that the last few states that do vote have the 1 or 2 that are left and the ones who vote earlier get more choice. The order they vote in doesn’t change much. I just think that the ones who traditionally go 1rst and the ones who go last should mix it up a little. The same voter’s are the ones who decide who is left for the rest of us.

  • Patty

    Jovianus – I am just giddy. Here you have an incompetent state union employee who has made errors in the past, errors in this election and they will continue to make errors in the future. All because they are “protected” by a union and you can’t fire them because of their incompetence. Not only that, she will get to retire after 25-30 years at about her same salary PLUS benefits for as long or longer than she actually worked. I just can’t help but laugh.

  • chuckb

    patty, don’t laugh yet. the union thugs can find voted where no one looks and they probably are working at this moment, look for votes to appear out of nowhere tomorrow. remember franken.

    • Patty

      Oh I remember all too well. I live in MN. I think that because of the situation there, they will check every ballot for accuracy. I would start demanding it and since the guy is still the seated judge, why can’t it just go forward until it is decided?

  • chuckb

    we need to completely overhaul the voting system. the fraud that has taken place throughout the years is getting worse each election. many became familiar with it during the kennedy, nixon campaign. illinois is probably the nesting ground for fraud. florida brought the attention to voters who could not read or write and ballot stuffing, al gore almost got away with it. the franken election really exposed the voting fraud and here in california we have allowed illegals to vote for years, that is one reaso0n this state is so liberal, now we are at a point of no return. we need a secure voter id card/photo. the liberals don’t want this, that shows where the fraud comes from.

    • patty

      MN is talking about photo ID voting be put in place.

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