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Democratic Bill Aims To Clear Up Obama’s Birth Status, Raise Money For Indebted Government

February 1, 2011 by  

Democratic bill aims to clear up Obama's birth status, raise money for indebted governmentHouse Democrats have introduced a bill that would charge Americans $100 to obtain a copy of President Barack Obama's birth records.

The legislation, which would loosen privacy laws that currently restrict the release of birth records, is intended to dismiss claims that Obama was not born in the United States. Some Americans, who are called "birthers," believe that the President was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country. If that were the case, he would not be eligible for the nation's highest office.

"If people really want to confirm Barack Obama is born in Hawaii, that's fine," said John Mizuno (D-Hawaii), quoted by FOX News. "I don't have a problem with looking at innovative ways to bring revenue to the state. The taxpayers deserve a break."

Representative Rida Cabanilla (D-Hawaii) said that the $100 fee would help cover the expenses that are leveraged to handle phone calls and emails from individuals who believe Obama was not born in the U.S.

During a Jan. 23 appearance on NBC's Meet the Press, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said that Obama is a documented citizen and his birth status is "not even an issue that needs to be on the policy table right now."

When the show's host, David Gregory, referred to birther theories as "crazy talk," Cantor said Gregory was being rude with his choice of words. 

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  • B Steadman

    Barack Hussein Obama II was born August 4, 1961 at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and not in Hawaii as he claims. This may explain why he refuses to allow Hawaii to release of a long-form copy of his birth certificate. A high resolution copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate is available for free download at WasObamaBornInKenya.com

    The fascinating story of how Lucas Daniel Smith obtained a certified copy of Obama’s birth certificate directly from the birth hospital on February 19, 2009 is included as part of his ‘July 4, 2010 Letter to Congress’, which is also available for free download at the same website.

    • Karolyn

      How do you know this is not a forgery?

      • Ray

        How do we know the “legal birth certificate” on file in Hawaii is the original one?

        • bob wire

          Hmm, I’ll take one FEE one please!

          • BDOG

            $100 BUCKS, A JOKE RIGHT?

        • james

          Because there isn’t one on file in Hawaii, just ask his buddy Abercrombie, that should tipp off where the b.s. lies

          • Peg

            It is not covered in the Constitution about the citizenship for the office of President. It is in another Statue, sorry I can’t remember which one or where it is. If your mother and/or father is a citizen of the United States you are a citizen. Winston Churchill’s mother was an American citizen, thus Winston Churchill held dual citizenship for America and Great Britian. I most certainly do not approve of Mr. Obama or his actions, but we need to pay attention to the “Real” important issues.

          • kate8

            Peg – You don’t think adherence to the Constitution is an important issue? You don’t think having our highest office usurped by a foreigner is important?

            It isn’t enough to be a citizen. You must be a NATURAL BORN citizen to be president. You cannot be a dual citizen, a naturalized citizen, or anything else. You loyalty must be above question.

            We either have a Constitution or we don’t. It is either the Law of the land or it isn’t.

            Apparently, as things look now, it isn’t.

      • TIME

        Karolyn,

        It would all be over in a NY flash as the example from Kenya has a
        “foot print” on it. All the American people need is a foot print from Barry Soetoro done in the view of all US Citizens as in being shown on the TELIE with the aid of unbiased wittness’s.

        Oh and open his records to {his Employers} that being all of the “United States Citizens.”
        Whala you will know in a New York Second. So the only question’s that remain are why would anyone seal their records.

        Then ask why you’re tax dollars are paying Perkins & Cole Law Firm in DC to keep you from seeing said records? As I understand from someone I know that works for P&C Barry has paid well over $2 million dollars thus far.

        Better yet why are you’re tax dollars paying the DOJ to fight to keep Barry’s records sealed?
        With this we don’t know how much money has been spent due to we have not been allowed to know how many {man hours} have been spent on this form of protection.
        But an estimate is well over 3000 man hours, so even at a “DOJ starting pay” that would work out to well over $3.5 Million dollars.
        Just in case you don’t graps that the DOJ also works for the American Citizens.

        Thus keep in mind the old saying, “where there’s Smoke there is FIRE.”

        Not a single person in this county can get a job with no records of any kind, thats to even just pick up trash in the local park for $6.00 per hour.

        • Dennis

          How about the 20 million illegal aliens working in the USA with no doc’s! They even get to vote in the general elections in Mexafornia!

          • TIME

            Dennis,

            The folks that employ these poor folks pay them in cash, thus they are non people as far as the Governments thinking.
            I think the term “Paid Slaves” is more in line with the true meaning.

            The voting issue is due to groups like Accorn who register people with methods that are 100% illegal. But as our DOJ will not bring charges even with doucment proof of wrong doing.
            Thus all I can say is WHY are you all not complaing your butts off to you’re Congress and Senate people?

          • Vicki

            Time writes:
            “I think the term “Paid Slaves” is more in line with the true meaning”

            They can’t be slaves by definition. Slaves are owned not paid. Since these alien invaders are not owned and neither the government nor the employers hold them against their will they can be many things but slave is not one of them.

        • gary wilcox

          To all of America Lets put this birther thing to rest.Mandate that obama prove who he is.If he was not born in the U.S.,kick his ass out.What is he hiding? At heart I beleve he is not American.Our forfathers put this clause in the constitution for a reason,to be sure he or she had their heart in the right place.Think about this America,would you elect Hitler to this nations hightest office,I hop not!I beleve that Benjamin Franklin said that a little revalotion is sometimes nessary.Let your voice be heard America.

          • Cathy

            It was Thomas Jefferson…”The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

      • Cat

        they don’t

      • JLC

        Karolyn — The kew words there are, “Certified copy.”

      • Vicki

        Karolyn. How do you know it is a forgery?

      • JUKEBOX

        Nearly everything connected with Obama is a forgery. He won’t release any of his school records, and he paid his caucasian girlfriend from Columbia days to keep her mouth shut.

      • MERL

        I HAVE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF OBAMA.

        HE WAS BORN IN KENYA AND A CITIZEN OF INDONESIA. I RUN AN INFORMATION BUSINESS. IF YOU GURANTEE A PAYMENT IN GOOD FAITH I WILL SEND A COPY OF THE “REAL” BIRTH CIRTIFICATE FIRST.

    • TERRY

      You know what I feel is on Americas lips is with all the smart minds they can not figure out how to impeach obama. Well here you are he held up his right hand and swore under oath to uphold the Constitution of United States of America. This regime including obama has done everything to void and abolish the constitution and the majority of America will agree. These are grounds to can him and his cronies.

      • Granny Mae

        Terry,

        I agree with you 100 percent ! Someone give Terry a medal !

    • Earl

      I seem to recall that the Hawaii dept. of vital statistics or whatever they call themselves said that they seem to have LOST or otherwise can’t find his copy of his birth certificate (long-form, that is)!

  • Michael J.

    A genuine long form birth certificate, maybe. But why would anyone pay $100.00 to receive a forged certificate of live birth that’s already available for free at any number of web sites? Just more Democrat fun and games aimed at making a mockery of the issue of eligibility at the expense of our nation’s national security.

    • Vicki

      Not only that but $100 is not going to have any measurable effect on the debt of any of our government. After all why would there be a purchase of more than 1? Souvenirs?

      • JUKEBOX

        If this $100 paid for a certificate that was not the long form, I wonder if the state could be charged with theft by deception.

    • Conservatives United

      Like all other things from the ILLEGAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE, It is a DIVERSION.

  • http://aol judy macneal

    no other president was allowed to govern without the real deal birth certificate, why is he allowed. Also to the best of my knowledge no president was allowed to seal their records iof school etc. thos all sounds fishy to me.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Bush had his military records, or lack thereof, destroyed when he was governor.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Is that right Doc . . . . did he hide his BC and conceal his non-citizen father?

        • Doc Sarvis

          Not that I am aware of and neither has President Obama.

          • Vicki

            Just one of the questions to ask yourself is why was McCain heavily vetted about his birth but not even a peep over the total lack of vetting of Obama.

      • independant thinker

        Doc the govenor of Texas has no say so in how the military records held by the Pentagon are handled.

        • Doc Sarvis

          You are probably correct on that but as I understand it the Governor of TX has complete say on how records for the Reserves are handled.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Reserves and/or Guard units.

          • independant thinker

            Bush did not spend his National Guard time in Texas or at least not all of it.

          • Earl Walton

            Who gives a shit if he is legal why not him show his birth certificate he works or should be working for us.He could end all suspition.Why all the bullshit.

        • Jana

          Excuse me, Bush’s records were revealed.
          Who was the GREAT Reporter who lied about his records and got fired?

      • http://opinerlog.blogspot.com Jim Delaney

        Doc,

        Site your source for your specious claim re Bush’s military records ordered destroyed. Anyone can say anyting. That doesn’ make it fact.

      • Bruce D.

        I thought the question about Bush’s military record was settled when Dan Rather was kicked off the air for promoting falsified evidence.

        • Jana

          Bruce D.,
          I thought it was Dan Rather, I just wasn’t positive enough to print it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        doc,
        Get your head out of your rectum!!! when the flap about Bush’s records came up while he was president, he produced his records AND proved he DIDN’T go AWOL as the stupid brainless reporter tried to bull$hit his way through!!

    • Conservatives United

      I do believe that John BENIDICT ARNOLD Kerry sealed some of his, to show that his grades were worse than GWB’s grades.

  • Michelle

    What amazes me is that if you have the nerve to question his fake “certification of live birth” you are automatically a nut, a birther, a crazy. Yet when someone pays millions of dollars to keep it along with any other documentation of his life such as school records, or passports, or college info kept hidden we are not supposed to find that suspicious?? This just continues to show the hypocrisy of the main stream media in that it was okay to question McCain’s birth and eligibility or question/criticize George Bush’s school/military/etc records yet we are not allowed to see let a lone comment on obama’s???

    • http://personalliberty.com frank

      Michelle that was great to read.You are right on. The left can’t answer the truth.

      • kate8

        Michelle, When the Left has nothing to offer, they ridicule and marginalize.

        If he actually had valid documentation, why not just produce it and be done with it? NO. Instead, he continues to defy the American people and treat us like livestock.

        If it weren’t for the complicit media, even the courts would have a hard time covering for him.

        • Jana

          Just to show you more hypocrisy from Obama, he has stated that even though the Health Care Bill has been found UNCONSTITUTIONAL he is still going to press forward on this because he doesn’t like the judge that gave this ruling.
          Obama has thumbed his nose at the Constitution over and over, so why would we be surprised at this?
          This man Obama has stated in his own book that he has always been drawn to the ideologies of Marxism and Communism as well as Socialism, and he has proven it by surrounding himself then and now with Socialists and Communists and Marxists. Anyone who has an Anti American agenda is his friend.

          • Conservatives United

            And you forgot to mention MUSLIMS

          • kate8

            Jana – Yes. I heard Obama was going to ignore the court’s decision. Is this not approaching anarchy?

            He repeatedly thumbs his nose at the Law of the land. He considers himself to be above the Law. Heck, he considers that he IS the Law.

            You know what I think. We can ALL just ignore these stupid Acts of Congress. We CANNOT be held to Acts that violate the Constitution unless the Constitution has been thrown out, and that can only happen if we accept that it has.

            We’ve been so indoctrinated to believe that we must accept and obey everything proclaimed by “authority”. But from where does the authority for Acts by Congress and EOs derive? FROM THE CONSTITUTION AND FROM US.

            Why do you think government elites ignore the Acts they pass? BECAUSE THEY KNOW SUCH ACTS EXCEED THEIR POWER AND AUTHORITY, and thus, need not be adhered to. We are only subject to them by our silence and our compliance.

            What about those in government who were caught not paying taxes? Does anyone know for sure that they ever did? Or was it all for show as a demonstration to us?

            Until we start standing up and refusing to comply, we will continue to be controlled. The elites are laughing their heads off at how ignorant we are, thanks to their pathetic education system and propaganda machine.

            Are we Americans or are we lemmings? The American spirit used to be greater than that of any other nation on Earth. Has it been completely diluted?

            It’s up to us to resurrect it.

          • Jana

            Kate8,
            Well we see what happens in other countries when people demonstrate. Egypt’s President or whatever he is is not going to ‘run’ again. They will supposedly get some of their issues dealt with.
            I agree. We need to make noise and let our wishes be known more. Look what happened last Nov. and this was just a start.

          • Christin

            Kate8,
            We the people HAVE to obey or be prosecuted… OR… we can over throw the leaders who are NOT adhering to the Constitutional LAW of the land… with great difficulty.
            Do you know know that parking in a handicap space is a misdemeanor and not just a traffic ticket?! They have increased the punishment on the laws.

            Jana,
            The people of Egypt are NOT going to get any issues dealt with… they will get Sharia Law from the Muslim Brotherhood that will take over now that a timely and an orchestrated power struggle with the 30 year corrupt Epyptian president has come from TPTB.

            The Muslim’s will control the three water ways: the Sanai Penninsula & the Red Sea, the Mediterranean Sea, and the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea. Oil will be rationed and prices will sky rocket… we have been redistributing the [our American] wealth with oil for decades instead of using our own plentiful supplies God has given to America. obama has sealed this fate tightly with the oil moratorium. And we have given the Egyptian president, like the former Shah of Iran, billions of American dollars to stay pro-American… and like the Shah in Iran, he was ousted and then an even worse leader, the Iatola Kumeni (sp? sorry, religious leader), came.

            This can not be stopped as it is God’s will to bring the muslim people to this area near Jerusalem …first to Armageddon [meaning hill or mountain of Megiddo] so Jesus can have the last battle in the valley of Jehoshaphat [meaning Judgment of the Eternal] as stated in (Joel 3 and Daniel and Revelation) in the Bible. Jesus will return and execute God’s judgment on a rebellious, sin-filled world and on those who resist Him by force.

            Jews, Christians, and Muslims have a common spiritual ancestor in Abraham; and all three religions expect, in different ways, a Messiah. Only after the true Messiah comes can all three begin to live in true harmony. Devoid of religious differences and finally understanding the blood ties (it is always blood with God) between them, they will be able to work together under the returned Jesus Christ to resolve their differences.

            So, unfortunately, we must go through the Storm of Storms to get to a right place with God.

          • Granny Mae

            Jana,

            I read somewhere that Fox news investigated Obama’s life and school records and as far as college they can’t even find any professors that say he was ever in their classes. None of the students from the classes he claims to have attended , say they never knew him or had him in class with them ! It is real odd that someone would break and say something after all this time if he really did attend college where he said he did ! I think the pressure should now be applied to Washington to Impeach him !

    • Lastmanstanding

      Michele. Millions of dollars from his campaign fund. (for you progs. reading this, that is money that you donated to get him elected.) No way he would spend any of HIS money to keep secrets from us. That is just one reason why conservative people are pissed off regarding obama. Libs are never willing to use their own money for, “the (their own) greater good.” They want to use yours. I wish the truth only cost $100.00.

    • JUKEBOX

      I would like to see the papers, passport, etc. from when he came back from Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, and where his legal adoption in Indonesia was reversed, and his name changed.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    it is a false document i wouldnt give one red cent i know he isnt a citizen.

  • Fly By Night

    And who keeps messing with his hair color?

    • Jim

      only him and his hair dresser know

      • Fly By Night

        Well Jim I would like for him to try a round of him as being a blond headed (offensive word removed)…:-)

        • TIME

          FBN,

          Thats 100% uncalled for and also displays what an ass you are.

          • http://ajb221@cox.net ajb

            fly I think that was a good statement

          • http://?? Joe H.

            time,
            that’s why he only flies by night!! His kind can’t stand the light of day!!!
            FBN, I mean!!

        • barbm

          it’s this kind of crap that keeps people from taking the tea party seriously. i’m sick and tired of being called a racist because of a few bigots that we can’t seem to weed out of our midst.

          • Doc Sarvis

            You are exactly right, that is an illustration of why the Tea Party is framed as a racist group.

          • Dale on the left coast

            Nothing to do with the Tea Party . . . this issue started during Hilery’s campaign for pres . . . and Doc, you are a loon!!!

          • Doc Sarvis

            I’m just agreeing with barbm here.

          • barbm

            i didn’t say the birth certificate issue was part of the tea party. i said that the (now deleted) part of fly by night’s post was offensive and reflects on all of us. if you, dale, wish to associate with bigots who show their lack of education and civility on blogs, be my guest. some of us do not want that type of person in the tea party or any other conservative organization. tea, anyone?

          • Bruce D.

            Actually there is a new pole saying 77% of Republicans and Independents want Congress to adopt Tea Party ideas so most people are taking the Tea Party seriously. Just because one blogger of unknown origin makes disparaging remarks does not mean it reflects on the Tea Party.

          • Bruce D.

            Actually both Republicans and Democrats that have not taken the Tea Party seriously have paid the price and more will fall in 2012. Anyone not taking the Tea Party seriously has a flaw in judgement.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Yes, there is A LOT of $$$$$ behind the Tea Party.

          • Jana

            Doc,
            There are a lot of $$$ behind all of them. Finally someone put some of those $$$ behind something good.

          • Bruce D.

            Doc I do not think you are dealing in terms of reality but political posturing. There is enough information out there to know what the Tea Party is. The Tea Party is not looking for handouts or political favors. They want a fair and honest government.

          • Conservatives United

            Before some of you pass judgement on the Tea Party, Check out TEA PARTY NATION. It is not only the largest tea party, but is a face of reason that this nation desparately needs. http://www.teapartynation.com

    • Karolyn

      You may have noticed that by the time they’ve reached 2 years in office, all Presidents are sporting more grey hair.

      • eddie47d

        Charlotte NC will host the 2012 DNC convention. Maybe you can have some input in all of our political wrangling. Have a good one!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          eddie,
          Yeah I saw that! Never been so proud of Cleveland before!!!

      • FireMall

        Karolyn: It’s not the job that makes the Hair turn grey, It’s the stress of not being able to remember all the Lies one has told that sucks the color from ones hair & kills the twinkle of truth from one’s eyes..
        Seems all these obvious Symptoms are causing some strange illnesses in the Oval Office these days.
        You have been trolling for Obama for what seems like years ,when might we expect you to tire of all the falsities and repent of your mistaken trust in this corrupt admin ??

    • JUKEBOX

      They do it with LED’s connected to his teleprompter.

  • Judy

    President Obama should be proud to display his birth certificate and records of his school and university accomplishments. No one should have to pay a dime to see what should automatically become public records. Besides, why would anyone pay for what could be a forgery?

    • barbm

      we won’t have to pay a darn thing to see it. 5 states, including mine – texas, have introduced bills to require all candidates to prove their citizenship before being put on the ballot. if he doesn’t make it on the ballot in texas, arizona, pennsylvania, georgia, and montana in 2012, i don’t see how he can win another term. that’s why they’re trying to push this crap now after fighting it so long. at first, i thought the gop was just experiencing sour grapes after the loss in 2008. but, after seeing how much money and how hard he’s fought to keep everything secret, i have to question his legality myself.

      • FireMall

        I hope the state bills pass to force all potential candidates to prove citizenship.
        What I don’t understand is legislating one more rudundant law for the sole purpose of doing what all previous Existing election laws already Require of Candidates. Ref; The First rule of being a candidate for POTUS. As Per the Constitution. PERIOD !!!

        I also have to question the Texas law requiring Voter ID being tabled / scraped, for years by both parties of the Texas Legislature.
        This only proves to me that Both Parties have a vested interest in Voter Fraud by not making illegals prove citizenship before they can cast votes Illegally. Just as the Obama Admin has a vested interest in allowing Non-Citizens to vote for Obama & The Demons of Illegal Entitlements.

        • barbm

          we had a mojority dems. now we don’t!!! tea, anyone? :) it’ll pass this time. has already been reintroduced for this session.

          • Jana

            barbm,
            I sure wish we (TX) could do something about the time line of our voting in the primaries. By the time Texas got around to voting in the primaries for who would run as President, McCain had already been declared as the winner on who would run for Pres. I would not have voted for McCain. I think we (every state) ought to all vote in the primaries on the same day, so we can all have a valid input.

          • Bruce D.

            Good point Jana. It seems like the Vermont Republican political machinery made up of Rinos had too much influence. It was a stunning victory by McCain that carried over in momentum. I think McCain’s service in time of war made him a sentimental favorate of many. I hope people do not make that kind of mistake again.

      • kate8

        barbm – Well, they’d better write in the law that all Americans get to view the said BC. I wouldn’t rule out them appointing a special person or committee to certify that the document exists, and then leave it to their “discretion”.

        Too many people are bought and paid for these days.

        • barbm

          much as i don’t like rino governor perry, i trust him and atty gen gregg abbott to make sure it’s legit. why bother to pass the bill if you’re just going to take somebody’s word for the legitimacy. we already have that. i believe that obama is God’s greatest gift to america. had he not been elected, we’d probably still be asleep at the wheel.

          • kate8

            barbm – You sure are right about Obama waking us up.

            As far as why they would pass a law and then fudge on it…I don’t know. Maybe to avoid situations like we have now? To shut us up?

            I surely hope we still have honest politicians (oxymoron?), but it doesn’t hurt to…trust, but verify. I say, include citizen oversight.

      • JUKEBOX

        The Secret Service and/or the FBI are too ashamed to admit they screwed up by not vetting him correctly, as well as being afraid of being called RACIST if they found anything negative on the mulato (sic) black man.

        • JeffH

          JUKEBOX, just an FYI…The Secret Service and the FBI or any other federal government agency do not vet any political candidates or politicians…it’s not the responsibility of the federal government to do so, it is the states responsibility to do so.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          Where’s J. Edgar when we need him. this wouldn’t have slipped by him.

      • Conservatives United

        I just saw that the total of those working on that requirement ro considering it is up to 10-11. Do not know the other states considering it, but I think that number could grow fast.

  • Tim L.

    The Birthers, also known as morons, are not going to pay $100.00 to learn the truth. They don’t care about the truth: all they want to do is piss and moan and do what they can to run this country down.

    • Ray

      Democrats, also know as absolute truthtellers, will pay to learn the truth if they can get someone else to pay the $100.

      • Dagney

        LOL!

      • JUKEBOX

        Yeah, like the dumb ass taxpayers. Ever hear of FOIA?

        • Jana

          JUKEBOX,
          No I haven’t.???

          • JUKEBOX

            It’s a Federal law known as the Freedom of Information Act.

          • Jana

            Ok, I have heard of that, I just don’t know all of the initials of everything.
            Thanks

        • kate8

          JUKEBOX – Yes, what about FOIA? Oh yeah, Obama is above the Law.

          We also need a law stating that public officials are not entitled to sealed records. They must be held open to public scrutiny. Just look at how conservative candidates and elected officials are raked over the coals continually.

          How in the heck was this allowed to happen? One would almost think there was a conspiracy…

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kate8,
            Proof that Nobummer and the dems think he is above the law. I’m sure you have heard of the poparatzi? (the people that take pictures of the stars?)
            well a judge in a suit a few years back said that nothing the stars do is “sacred” as they had made themselves a public figure and as such nothing in their past or what they do in public has an expectation of privacy! As a public servant nothing in nobummers past or what he does in public should have an expectation of privacy!! In other words it’s all fair game!!

          • kate8

            JoeH – Yes, it’s all to apparent that Obama enjoys privilege that no one else does, or ever has in all of US history. He seems to be above the law, above scrutiny, and set apart from the rest of humanity.

            And the Left thinks this is fine.

    • marvin

      Tim L.
      sometimes it is best to keep your mouth shut and be though a fool, then open your mouth and it be proven one like you,i don,t give a dem if odumbo was hatched ,but american citizens have a legitiment and legal right to ask and be told the truth, about their elected official,and one of the right we as american citizens have is to disagree with anyone we chose even morons

      • Kinetic1

        Marvin,
        The irony of your post has not gone unnoticed.

        • Vicki

          Considering the above statements nether has yours.

          • barbm

            :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    • MIKE

      tim get a life or are we all giving you the life

    • Jim

      tiny brain tim one question ………. DOES BEING STUPID HURT ? no need to reply we know you ozombies dont feel any pain because your brain dead

    • TIME

      Tim,

      Ever get a LOAN? If you did you had to produce all the same type of records. So why would Barry be any differant?
      Afterall he works for the United States Citizens and thats all part of the package in doing such produce the records, its that simple.

      So perhaps you may want to rethink your aggressively stupid statment.

      • Kinetic1

        TIME,
        I have heard this argument time and again, but those who ask seem to have little interest in the truth. To respond one again, yes I have had several loans and other transactions that require a copy of my birth certificate. In every case, both business and government have accepted the copies of my “Live Birth” certificate as legal proof of American birth. It’s not a question of which type I ordered, but simply the fact that this is the one form provided by the state. That’s it, end of argument. My certificate, though not from the same state looks just like the president’s. In fact, so do my children’s. Where, you may ask is my original? Lost through the years. Perhaps it fell behind a dresser or failed to make one of my many moves, but it’s of little concern since the copies provided for me by my home state are legally recognized documents, just like President Obama’s.

        • JIBBS

          I’m wabbit hunting, now wheres dat wrabbit……please don’t say anymore Tim

        • Wayne

          The question remains, is he a natural born citizen, i.e., born of both parents being U.S. Citizens? The answer is – he is not. The law just needs to be inforced. Secondly, how did he travel overseas to counties on the “do-not-travel” list for U.S. citizens? Humm??

        • Christin

          Kinetic1,
          All you have to do is write to the Bureau of Vital Statistics in the state of your birth to get another original birth certificate.

          • Kinetic1

            Christin,
            This is exactly the kind of answer I expect. I’m trying to tell you that a certificate of live birth is what they provide when you request (and pay for) a copy of your birth certificate in my home state. I even had to provide legal proof of my identity to get it. Maybe they have originals in your state, but here it’s all gone digital. According to those in power they don’t keep the old paper copies anymore. And it’s not a problem because the certificate is considered legal proof! What more do you need to hear?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kenetic,
            I’m originally from Michigan and now live in Ohio. I still get a certified copy of a long form from Michigan and my kids and wife all get certified copies of the long form from Ohio! Florida still gives the long form as my daughters boyfriend is from there and he just got one.
            How about it people how about everyone out there from all the states just tell what form their state gives. That should settle it!! Anybody there from Hawaii???

        • JUKEBOX

          I can go to the Health Department in the City I was born in over 70 years ago, and receive a certified copy of my original birth certificate within 20 minutes. I know this for a fact, for I did just that about ten years ago. What is the problem with a birth 44 years ago in a major city in the U.S.? Are you going to believe Obama or your lying eyes?

    • http://ajb221@cox.net ajb

      Tim keep your head in the sand we dont need your advice

    • Dale on the left coast

      Timmy . . . his Father was a British Subject . . . therefore Obummer was born a British Subject . . . the BC is irrelevant, but Kenyan!!

    • JIBBS

      Are you a paid TROLL ?

    • FireMall

      Hey Tim L. You must have already received you Fat Check from the Illegal President & his corrupt admin to have the Audacity of Hoping “We The Birther People” do “NOT” have the Right to know if The President of the United States {I.E. “We The People’s” leader} is actually Legal to be such. ?
      You should stick to your back room bar “crap games” with welfare money and leave other’s “Right” to question important issues regarding Their Futures and their Children’s futures to their own deductions.
      You just might be the Epitome of what ails America’s Government today. IMO !!!

    • Vicki

      Tim L starts of with an ad hominem attack showing that he has nothing useful to say.

      “Tim L. says:
      February 1, 2011 at 7:41 am

      The Birthers, also known as morons, …. ”

      This clearly shows him to be a liberal without any useful thought on the subject. Several people observe that Tim sounds like a fool (or is one).

      Well known liberals demonstrate that they too have nothing useful to say and instead go straight to argumentium ad hominem thus clearly showing how little thought they put into their statements.

      And liberals are still surprised that we have no respect for them?

      • JUKEBOX

        As Neal Boortz says, “IGNORANCE NEEDS TO BE PAINFUL”.

    • Doug

      there is no truth for $100 dollar timmy boy, it the same old live birth certificate. His good buddy Ambercrombie the new Gov went looking for it and could not find it! The only think bring down this once great nation is Progessives, Liberals, Communist, Solialist or wait might as well just say DEMORAT

    • Bruce D.

      It is unlikely the bill will every pass and is more for show. I believe there is a birth certificate. One showing him as a legal resident of Hawaii but not as his birthplace. That is why there is no long form of his birth or records of his hospital birth or records of the doctor giving him birth. I use to believe he was born in Hawaii until a supervisor who worked at that office in Hawaii explained the difference in birth certificates.

      • kate8

        Bruce D. – It seems that I remember that someone investigated the place he supposedly lived in Hawaii and it was found that (by gosh) it appeared that his family never lived there! Nor did ANYONE remember him or his family at all.

        Just like no one at Columbia U remembers him.

        I know that if I lived near or went to school with a president, I’d certainly remember him, or someone would.

        • Bruce D.

          It is my understanding it was the grandparents address given in the newspaper article at the time of his birth. Obama’s past is filled with deep dark secrets. One thing is for certain, Obama himself does not want his past to have clarity or he would have released all records of his past. Especially school records which normally state nationality which in his case may have stated Kenyan. His mother’s passport records being deleted from record is another indication that he was born in Kenya.

          • kate8

            Bruce D. – And what about his having attended college as a foreign student?

          • Christin

            And his use of multiple Social Security numbers… isn’t that a crime?

    • Conservatives United

      The real issue is not where he was born, but the constitutional issue that states that both parents must be US citizens. Barak H Obama Sr, was never a US citizen. That the real issue here.

      • kate8

        C U – The point is that there is so much actual proof, on so many levels and issues, that he could not be a US citizen, no matter how anyone tries to massage his history.

        He needs to submit a footprint. His actions alone, being in defiance of the Constitution and of the American people, should be grounds enough to remove him.

  • http://walnut39@tds.net Edwin Mack

    TROUBLE IS BY NOW LAWYERS,POLITICIANS, THE PUBLIC, HAVE LET THIS GO ON SO LONG WE WON’T KNOW WHAT’S THE TRUTH but if it is true that he has spent millions of dollars to cover up the truth( and WHO even knows if this story is true?) then Obama should NOT have been allowed to run. Republicans, where in hell were you when he applied for an application to run? Or don’t you need an application. Freedom of speech is probably the greatest right on this earth BUT IT IS NOT WORTHY A DIME when the media miss uses it the way they do. The “mass media”, ALL the big newspapers, their reporters are nothing but money grubbing piss poor people as people go. Surely ones you wouldn’t want for friends. The “Enquirer” used to be a garbage rag of a paper. Now all the mass media are right down there with them

    • CJ

      Freedom Of Speech ONLY protects you from statements made toward the government, nothing more. They can not come after you for saying something against the government. Don’t misapply the Constitution. That’s why we have some of the messes we do now, like “anchor babies” and misapplication of the 14th ammendment.

    • http://yahoo richard

      didn’t it occur to anyone else in 2008 that all of a sudden all the front runners were out and the two tail end charlies were the only ones running?

      • kate8

        richard – Sure did. I mentioned it many times.

    • FireMall

      Lawyers and politicians are definitely the Source of all of America’s problems .
      I have to disagree about the public allowing this issue to ferment to the point that it wreaks of feces.
      The public is the Only group that has been dealing with the illegal POTUS status and many have been ranting since Obama signed up as a candidate about his Not So Questionable Illegal Status.
      It all comes down to & Back to “Crooked Lawyers” making money and helping “Corrupt Politicians” in hopes of Being just another “Crooked” politician / Pukatician one day.
      There is a reason the colonial townships would not allow Lawyers to Practice thetrwithin the Towns back in the day.

  • Erich

    Isn’t there still the issue of daul citizenship? From my understanding if you have daul citizenship your not eligible to run for office.We know his father was a citizen of Kenya which was under British rule at the time of Obama’s birth. I wish to someone with guts would stand up and get this whole issue resloved once and for all. The new Governor of Hawaii says they can’t locate his BC and now they say if you want to see it you have to pay. Funny how for two years we’ve been strung along now after he spends a couple weeks vacationing in Hawaii they say they can produce one. I don’t know about anyone else but if there is a birth certificate available now it’s probably a fake.

    • David Warheit

      No, Erich. If it were true that persons of dual (or more than 2) nationalities were ineligible to become president, then we would be assigning to governments other than our own the right to determine who could be our next president. All your theory would take would be for some rogue country to grant citizenship in its country to every US citizen and, bingo, NOBODY would be eligible to become president.

      For some examples, look at my own children. I was serving in the US Army, married to a US citizen (both my wife & I were born in the US & our parents were born here as well), when our daughter was born in Germany where I was stationed. She is not a German citizen, because German law doesn’t recognize children born in Germany to the military of other countries. We took her birth certificate, issued by the local German authorities, to the US Consulate where they issued a document showing the birth abroad of a US citizen. When we returned to the US, we registered this document with the California authorities, so whenever my daughter wishes to get a copy of her BC, she need only write to them, not to Germany. She is, therefore, a “natural born USC”, fully eligible to run for president.

      My daughter is now married to a British citizen. While living in Canada, she gave birth to a son. Canadian law declares him to be a Canadian citizen. British law declares him to be a British citizen. US law declares him to be a US citizen. He was immediately issued a passport by the US consulate. Although he’s a little young now (5), when he reaches 35, he will be eligible to run for president.

      In Obama’s case, even if he were born outside the US, his mother was a US citizen, fully capable of transmitting her citizenship to her child. What the country of birth might decide or the country of nationality of the father might decide with regards to his citizenship is completely irrelevant. Under US law, he would be a US citizen. End of story, except to point out that the evidence is overwhelming that he was born in Hawaii. He has a Hawaiian birth certificate, and current Hawaiian authorities have testified that he was indeed born there.

      • james

        Wow all that and not even a thought as to the U.S. law in 1961? A little biased arent we?

        • james

          Overwhelming evidence? The new governor of Hawaii cant find this supposed “evidence” dude, go away!

      • Papa

        Simple fact. The Laws of the United States, at the time Obama was born, did not allow his young Mother to bestow citizenship on her child born outside the United States. She simply wasn’t old enough at the time. That law, as written at the time of his birth, is what applies, not the law as it now exists.

        If he truly was born in Hawaii as he claims, why all the machinations to hide a single piece of paper? The WORST thing it could show is that his parents weren’t married at the time, and we already know that so what’s the big deal?

        I have never been a “Birther” but I have serious questions as to “WHY” all his records (especially college transcripts) are being kept secret! What is the purpose of all this?

        I’m sorry, but there has to be a reason behind the secrecy and it CAN’T just be something harmless and inconsequential. Too much time and treasure has been devoted to depriving the general public of all this information…

        • IRA

          “”The WORST thing it could possibly show is that his parents were not married”" How about it being stated on the BC that he was CAUCASIAN????? Our first mulatto president is actually a CAUCASIAN, LOL. Can you imagine. Although that certainly would not explain why all the other school records, college thesis, etc. etc. etc. are all being hidden. Something very evil and sinister is being kept from the American public. I wish someone would create a million dollar fund that would be given to the person would could produce a ‘VERIFIABLE’ Hawaiian BC for Obummer. Or a billion air type, like Bill Gates, would do the same. What person, anywhere, could resist being a million air over night, a once in a life time opportunity. Make the offer, if no comes forward to produce the Hawaiian document, just more proof that one does NOT exist. I hope the issue will soon be resolved soon with the handful of states that are now or have passed new laws requiring proof of status, in order to be on the ballot in those states. I also hope that the Republican party will make a BIG issue of the same. If they don’t, they will not get so much as a thin dime of support from me, and I urge others to do the same and let the RNC know what you’re going to do, just as I have done.

          • mithers

            which is why his church of choice in it’s mission statement promised “devotion to the motherland Africa,” and was a people of diaspora, or a displaced people, I could not understand why the smoke and mirrors about the bc unless it does prove kenya, the attempt to divert attention from this missing document just fuels conspiracy, prove us wrong and we will go away, for once just answer the public with a proof of document, I personally think that if there was nothing to hide all docs would have been made available, along with wife’s “I for the first time am proud to be an american,” comment, we need to have college transcriptions and this missing paper provided or step down in acorn shame,

          • mickey

            Yes, in Hawaii he would be a hapa haole, meaning “half white”==not half black. If, indeed, his grandparents went to register him, one look at them and he would probably be recorded as “white”. African American did not exist at that time and no register would have mistaken the grandparents as “negro”.

            Since Hawaii is just a little biased–on the other side–but knowing the mainland is opposite, he is just not wanting to rock the boat. I read through the timeline the Dem HQ has to do to put a person on the ballot. Pretty coincidental how his grandmother just got sick at the right time and he hasn’t visited her grave since she died.

            Certainly wouldn’t have done his campaign any good to stand up and say “but I’m caucasian” would it?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            IRA,
            I have a theory on the school records. I wonder if the records show that he applied for and got federal grants under the classification of foriegn student status. If he did, he could be tried for this and if convicted, be impeached for it as a federal crime!! That would be a good enough reason to hide it!!

      • http://yahoo richard

        this only applies to military and govt. emploies

      • Vietnam Vet.

        David;
        most of your reply is factual but the part about his mother being able to transfer her citizenship to him is not correct. got to the Library of congress and look up the citizenship laws. I believe it is interpitation 302. the american parent must have resided in the U.S. for 5 years past their 16th birthday since she was only 18 she did not meet that qualification. (she would have had to be 21)
        When I researched this topic I wasn’t trying to prove one qay or the other and mostly I hit dead ends every place I tried to look.
        I evenwent to the Obama website raising money to fight the reavling of the original. they showed a copy of what they said was the original but as it listed black under the race block instead of Negro I believe it to be a fake. (as I stated it was not on any birthers site)
        I did this research because I like to know all the facts and the truth and there isn’t enough to substanciate either view at this time.

        • mickey

          Hmmm black? I thought it was African American. What are they putting different ones on different sites now?

      • sandra chase

        Not true. While Stanley Ann Dunham was born in Kansas and therefore born a US citizen, she was only 18 at the time of his birth, Aug 4, 1961, and therefore could NOT confer her citizenship to her son. The law, at the time, was you had to have attained the age of 19. She was only 18. Furthermore, and more importantly, she renounced her U.S. citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro when her son was 5 or 6 years old. The legal question then becomes: did she, at the same time, renounce her son’s U.S. citizenship? I am inclined to think so. He could not have attended any school in Indonesia without being an Indonesian citizen. He was adopted by his Indonesian step-father. Indonesian law, then and now does NOT allow dual citizenship. Pick one. she/he/they chose Indonesian citizenship. He also took and used his step-father’s name Soetoro, life-long. I defy anyone to figure out precisely when and more importantly why he stopped using the name Barry Soetoro and switched to his “birth” name of Barak Hussein Obama. Puzzling.

      • JIBBS

        If that were true, then when stupid American kids act as mules for drug trafficers, they should be returned to the USA and not punished in other countries because they are after all, US citizens ? Thats will not hold water ! Both parents need to be US citizens, and your son in-law is a british citizen, thus making your grandson non-eligiable to be prsident ….I’m sorry, but those are the facts. And it is also the fact/reason that Barry cannot be president.

        • independant thinker

          When I was in high school (early 60′s) we were taught that a pereson born to parents with one being American and one any other country had to formaly declare on his/her 21st birthday what citizenship they wished to claim and formaly renounce the other citizenship.

      • Bruce D.

        He may be a U.S. Citizen David. The question though is he a ‘natural born’ citizen. Some say a natural born citizen is one whose parents are both U.S. Citizens. Even Obama admits the ideology of his Kenyan father played a large role in who he is. The ‘founders’ put the term ‘natural born’ in the Constitution to avoid split allegiance because of the importance of the office.

        • kate8

          Bruce D. – As far as I know, he’s never proven himself to be ANY kind of citizen. In fact, the only indication is that he is an Indonesian citizen, according to a passport.

          What we have, it seems, is an illegal alien in our highest office. Unless and until he proves himself to be legitimate, we need to ignore and/or defy all acts bearing his signature. Do do otherwise is a mockery, a travesty, and possibly treasonous.

          • Bruce D.

            I was talking about David’s grandson Kate8 but the same would apply for Obama.

      • JUKEBOX

        Assuming all of your statement is true, then why is the annointed one having such difficulty producing a viable, definitive certificate like the one you describe?

      • David Warheit

        Some people have noted that the law in 1961, when Obama was born, provided that in case of a child born abroad where one parent was a USC & the other not provided that the USC had to have lived in the US prior to the child’s birth for at least 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14. Since apparently Obama’s mother was not yet 19 when he was born, she could not transmit her citizenship to him.

        The problem is, this law was repealed in 1978, and the repeal, while not affecting everyone so situated, did affect Obama (on the assumption he was born abroad), since he was only 17 at the time, and the cut-off age was 26.

        So the only question remaining is, what does “natural-born citizen” mean? This term appears in US law in only 2 places: the Constitution and a law passed in 1790 which was off the books before 1800. The term has always been treated, however, as meaning essentially someone who was a USC from birth, no matter the circumstances by which the citizenship was acquired. In short, the word “natural” has been ruled to be superfluous, so that if someone wants to become president, he must merely show that he acquired US citizenship at birth. Since Obama did so, either by birth in Hawaii or by virtue of the fact that his mother was a USC, the case against him is closed.

        There still remain those among us who don’t like this interpretation of “natural-born citizen”. Even if they were somehow to bring this matter before a court of law, and the court would find that the term correctly interpreted would exclude persons born as Obama was born (assuming you accept the notion that he was not born in Hawaii), the rule would be imposed only prospectively, not retrospectively, just as the law of 1978 did. In short, Obama’s “natural-born” citizenship would be unaffected by any such ruling.

        Properly understood, therefore, the “birthers” arguments are utterly without merit. Obama is regarded as having been born a US citizen, no matter where he was born, and that’s all one needs to run for and occupy the office of POTUS.

    • Vicki

      Erich says:
      “I wish to someone with guts would stand up and get this whole issue resloved once and for all. ”

      Need more than someone. Many people have stood up and placed their fortunes and sacred honor on the line. The MSM conveniently hides most of this.

      Here is a long list of stories about the controversy.
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98546

  • Chris

    The people don’t need a copy of his birth certificate. How are you the average person going to know if its a fake?

    What we do need is someone to examine the original documents that can be trusted. Many people in fact. It needs to be inspected for fraud, and reported back to the American people.

    • mickey

      That was up to the DNC and Pelosi. Pelosi knows.

  • Ameribred1

    Why should Anyone have to pay to see a document that should have been produced at the onset of this political farce?

    • JimC

      I wonder if John McCain got paid $100. to produce his birth certificate to the Dems who questioned / vetted his citizenship? After all, HE WAS BORN OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY — on a Navy base in the Panama Canal Zone to two US citizen parents – I guess that was an inconvenient truth…….
      I wonder if this question ever occurred to the same Democrat Committee — “Obama? Well, Pelosi says he’s OK, that’s good enough for us!”

      • Dale on the left coast

        You are as bright as Doc, Jim . . . McCain could have been born anywhere on the planet and been a US citizen. Why you ask, cause both his parents were US citizens. The parents confer Citizenship not the Real Estate where you were born.

        • Vicki

          “The parents confer Citizenship not the Real Estate where you were born.”

          If this statement were true there would be no “anchor baby” controversy.

          • kate8

            Vicki – According to my understanding, we are the only country that gives citizenship as a birthright.

      • JUKEBOX

        The difference between McCain and Obama is glaring. One is a white Republican and the other is a half black Democrat. Different standards apply.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jim C,
        Nah P-lousy probably just said “We’ll just have to elect him to see if he’s elegible”!!

  • J.M.R.

    I WON’T GIVE 1 CENT FOR IT AS ITS SHOULD BEEN SHOWN BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE W.H. BUT SINCE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF SCUM IN THE WHITE HOUSE THEY WILL KEEP COVERING UP FOR THIS PIECE OF GRAP.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I have never seen any past president’s birth certificate. Since nobody seems to believe the documentation presented – I have heard and read several HI officials who confirm that President Obama was born in that state. If you want to bury your head in the sand than that is your problem.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Well then Doc . . . . case closed!!! His father was a British Citizen . . . therefore so was the Bamster!!!

        • Doc Sarvis

          Actually, you have NOT proven your case.

          • JIBBS

            Labama’s father was a british citizen, therefor he cannot be president……….go do some homework before you open your mouth, because specking and not knowing what you are talking about makes you look real stupid. I think your a troll paid by the dems to start crap on here !!

          • Doc Sarvis

            All persons born in the United States are citizens of the United States.
            from:
            http://www.lexisnexis.com/practiceareas/immigration/pdfs/web704.pdf
            and probably many other sources.

          • Doug

            Doc when they open the Obama libary it will only cost $.50 because the only think for you to see will be pictures of him running his mouth reading the teleprompter because there sure are not records or to examine.

          • Vicki

            Doc has not proven his case either. He has only offered hearsay evidence which would not be admissible in any court. He would claim that his witnesses SAW the certificate. However he has not produced them nor any deposition from them. As such his testimony is hearsay and inadmissible.

            I can find nothing in the law that claiming to have seen a document is enough to enter said document into evidence.

          • JIBBS

            Doc, I think your bucket has a hole in it. If your trying to use the 14th amendment, you are not correct. This amendment was ment for the slaves brought here prior to civil war and the end of slavery. As for your link, I tire of people posting links to mostly bullshit websites, you need to use standing documents, Bill of Rights, Constiution, ect., ect. Like I said, your a infiltraitor(TROLL)

          • JIBBS

            Eat your own words Doc, it clearly states, two US citizen parents, and this was your link. It must suck getting caught in your own trap !! And she left the US @ age 18 What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November
            13, 1986?
            Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as
            one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.
            When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent
            must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five
            of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was
            created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

          • Doc Sarvis

            JIBBS where did his mother go when she was 18. I have it that she was in HI and had her son Barack then (when she was 18 and there (in HI).

          • kate8

            Doc – Obviously, you haven’t kept abreast of developments on this issue. We have sworn statements from HI declaring that there IS NO BC in Hawaii.

      • FireMall

        Doc: You just answered the 64000 dollar question without even knowing what you did.
        If Obama Had a Legal BC Abocrombie puppet of Obama’s fake birthplace / Hawaii would have to know where the freekin Document was and be able to Produce it. Thus Proving without a doubt that No One Ever saw the dammed thing when Barry “O” corrupted registered with the Elections commission. PERIOD !! Get a Clue. Denial of the Facts does not ,in any way make a Lie a Truthful Event.

        • Vicki

          Careful there Colombo. They hate it when you catch them in a lie.

  • http://msn Kerri

    The question is, why are those documents not up for public display? Then,they can’t find it. then you can pay $100 to see it. Do they really think the American people are that stupid?

    • FireMall

      Answer: Yes they think “We The People” are stupid.
      Sad part is “We” may be stupid for allowing our So Called Leaders to Ignore this issue.
      “We The People’s” only option is to Prove to the Corrupt politicians how Stupid “THEY ” are for thinking “We” are Stupid. By the only way “We” can.
      Fire-M-All –now , or no later than November 2012.

      • Dan az

        Fire M all now I get it duh! thanks

  • http://tkushi@berkshire.rr.com Timothy Kushi

    This and all issues like this are just a example of how crocked our Congress and Senate People are. This man is a fraud, any honest person would of had his birth certificate attached to his applications to run for the office of the presidency and if it wasn’t he wouldn’t be able to apply. This man and anybody who saids he was born in Hawaii is a enemy of this Country.The Democrats who where running things at the time took care of his fake application and looked the other way. All who new and are covering for this lie to the American people need to be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the Laws of this Country. When they make Laws for us to have to obey to and they are exempt from that says it all. No one who runs for that office should be able to hide their personal records from the American Pople. You only hide things when you don’t want or have them seen because they would show you are a fake.The American people who are not asking for his records need to get their head out of the sand.

    • FireMall

      There is one sure fire way of attaching the proper documents to insure an accepted application to run for a government office.
      Simply attach a Demons of crap note to the application promising a high Ranking appointment after the election results are rigged in favor of the Illegal Applicant.

  • campfire

    besides of this undocumented worker being born in Kenya he wasn’t even properly veted to be running for President. Palozy was the only one who veted Obummer. Now that is real comforting. They all should be charged with treason.

    • bob wire

      Oh! there is documentation! and for just a mere $100.00 you get both, a copy of his birth certificate and a 8 x 10 glossy autographed photo of the whole family in a peaceful tropical setting.

      But Wait! if you place your order today you also get his first coconut sippy cup absolutely free!

      And , that’s not all! we will also throw in a genuine Kenya bolo knife if you place your order now.

      So place your order now! For this offer is limited. Call toady!

      • JIBBS

        I need the phone # to place my order………hehehe,lol

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Jibbs,
          As Junior Samples used to say, BR549!!!!!

      • JC

        Now that’s funny. :)

  • marvin

    people less just vote obama the unamerican out off office in nov 2012 mabe the left can get heil clinton or pelosi or rahm emanuel or reid mabe g soros sorry soros was not born here to run they can allways find a dirtbag unamerican to run mabe even al the mouth sharpton who said, we can not let the tea party steal our crown,what ever that means,sharpe is one great american,that has just about the smarts of a teenager having unproted sex

    • Vicki

      The problem with allowing him to be voted out in 2012 is that we will have set a precedent that the natural born citizen is no longer a requirement. Future court cases could be decided on this rather than the Constitutional requirements.

  • JimH

    I was born 10 years before Obama was, in a hospilal that isn,t there anymore. I know where my birth certificate is and I’m not even president. If I want a copy of it the county will only charge $5 for it.

    • JimC

      Sounds familiar, I was born 6 years before Obama, in a hospital which is also not there anymore.
      I have my original birth certificate and also know exactly where to get a State issued copy in short order.
      I have needed my birth certificate several times and it was quick and easy to produce, just takes a short trip to the local bank safe deposit box.
      I will need it again, or my US passport, when I renew my Driver’s License in order to get a “Federally Accepted ID” license for air travel come 2015.

      • Doug

        Funny I was born there about 3 years before the traitor was suppose to be born there and I got mine! Also anybody seen Ambercombie he is the poster child for 60 hippie who was smoking lots of grass or should I say Pakalolo!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JimC,
        i was born in Adrian Mich in a hospital that is no longer there as well!! I can go to Adrian city hall and get a certified copy of my birth certificate for 15.00!

    • Papa

      The same applies for me, and I was born “20″ years before Obama, in a “TOWN” which no longer exists, except in the memory of a few old people.

      My Birth Certificate, however, complete with signatures is still available from the County Courthouse, upon request…

      • bob wire

        but what if we don’t want to accept it Papa?

        • Vicki

          So can we see Obama’s now so we can choose to not accept it?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Vicki,
            I agree! I wouldn’t feel half as bad if I could see the long form to CHOOSE to accept or not!!!

  • Jim

    the communist democrat party is now charging the American people 100 American dollars to see a document that should have been produced 2 1/2 years ago it seams it took these einstein’s this long to produce one that would pass inspection and not be found to be a fake, Chairman obama is not eligible to hold the office he and the communist party usurped, obama is a traitor to America and it is a shame the first black to hold this office will be found to not be a natural born citizen of our country and a traitor, obama is a Marxist, with a touch of socialism and communism thrown in to appease the socialist and communist he has made czars or appointed to some position in his illegal administration , Nazi pelosi Heir Reid and the rest of the traitors who stood this usurper up in front of the American people and pushed him off as ” one of us ” are also traitors to the country and constitution they swore to uphold

  • http://MSN.com John

    “Laws of the Territory of Hawaii ACT 96 To Provide For The Issuance Of Certificates Of Hawaiian Birth was in effect from 1911 until 1972 and allowed someone who was born outside the Hawaiian Islands to be registered as though he were born in Hawaii. Under that law, someone simply would have presented herself to the Hawaiian authorities and declared that the child was born in Hawaii. The person could have sworn under oath and presented witnesses and other evidence. If the authorities accepted it, that was the end of it. All a person had to do was file a false statement and Hawaii took them at their word.

    One could not just say “My kid was born in Des Moines but I want him to have a Hawaiian birth record”. But if you lied no investigation was conducted to validate your claim and the Hawaiian birth record was issued no questions asked.

    Knowledge of this practice was wide spread and there are probably thousands of people who obtained Hawaiian birth records between 1911 and 1972 through the process of affidavits and witnesses rather than hospitals and delivery doctors not the least of these was the president of the first Chinese republic. Sun Yat-sen was born to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, China, but he had a Hawaiian birth certificate and was officially a citizen of the United States. The wording on Sun Yat-sen’s Hawaiian birth certificate reveals that at age 18 he “made application for a Certificate of Birth. And that it appears from his affidavit and the evidence submitted by witnesses that he was born in the Hawaiian Islands.” Appears? It also appears that AKA Obama was born in Hawaii. Does the AKA Obama birth certificate on file with the State of Hawaii have language similar to the birth certificate of SunYat-sen?

    The only way to know where AKA OBAMA was actually born is to view AKA OBAMA’s original birth certificate on file in Hawaii to see what kind of birth certificate it is, and to examine what corroborating evidence supports what it says about AKA OBAMA’s alleged place of birth. If the birth was in a hospital, as AKA OBAMA has maintained, such evidence would be the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor who delivered him.”

    There is a small textural difference between COLBs issued to those who were born in hospitals with full documentation and those who were given Hawaiian birth status through an affidavit process:

    And be sure to see this documented evidence that AKA Obama’s COLB is different than other COLBs
    AKA Obama COLB Filed But Never Accepted – Click Image For Full View
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/…

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/…

    • IRA

      It would appear that there is an error here, as NEITHER of the above links exists. Ira

    • http://MSN.com John

      I don’t know how it works. Try this way to get a right web site. Thanks

      http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/05/aka-obama-colb-filed-but-never-accepted.html

    • http://MSN.com John

      Please, try this way to get a right web page. Sorry for inconvenience. Thanks

      http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2009/04/aka-obama-fans-all-together-now-say-omg.html

      • Vicki

        Good stuff John. Thanks.

      • kate8

        John – Fantastic site! The best I’ve seen on the subject.

        It doesn’t seem to matter how many people have evidence, file suits, petition for redress of grievences, serve on Grand Juries, or any of the other numerous ways people are seeking the truth. If the media ingores it, it goes nowhere.

        This has really frightening implications. If the media chooses to keep an issue covered up, it doesn’t exist. Every American could be shouting from their rooftops, holding conferences and whatever,and the media still controls whether it’s happening.

        Not to mention all of the people in all walks of government, journalism and heaven knows where else, who would be complicit and subject to charges of obstruction of justice, fraud and treason.

        There are too many people with a whole lot to lose. Even if someone did come forward, the media wouldn’t report it.

  • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

    Wow, your bitterness over losing the presidency to President Obama has rotted your brains. President Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, this has been confirmed by the (then) Republican Governor as well as the Hawaii State Department of Health. Five other presidents have had a at least one foreign parent including Herbert Hoover.

    You lost, get over it.

    • http://ajb221@cox.net ajb

      stick your head back in the sand seems like that is where it has always been

    • bob wire

      They are still working on the technicality angle, they are thinking they can recover the ball and somehow score. False start! too many men on the field. Bring it back.

      Head in the sand for sure, ~ National Politics is not such a game, but like a shot from a gun, final in it’s results and all left to live or die with it. There will be no “replays”

      You are left with the “High Crimes & Treason” angle. Good Luck with your search.

      • Vicki

        When the rule of law is ignored long enough your children will learn that they can do what they want without consequence. Reality will correct this error in judgement.

        • kate8

          Vicki – Yeah. Just look at what our youth learned from Clinton.

    • ENough

      Jesse Clark HOOVER, born Sep 2, 1846, West Milton, Miami, OH, USA
      He was of German desent.

    • Patriot

      Then there should be nothing to worry about, we the people, including you (if you are in fact a US Citizen) should be demanding the documents! The debate would then be over and we will all admit we are wrong, until then nobody has proof!

  • http://opinerlog.blogspot.com jdelaney3

    I would be utterly and overwhelmingly surprised if 1) the bill passes, and 2) the orignal long form birth certificate, if it exists at all, is made public.

    As the article indicates, the lawmakers are promising only “a copy of Obama’s birth documents”. Lot of wiggle room there.

    My guess–which, I suppose, is as good as anyone elses–is that the “birth documents” will include notations indicating his real name, that being Barry Sotoro, an adopted Indonesian who failed to affirmatively reinstate his US Citizenship when he turned 21.

    Until he or his “birth documents” clearly and substantially prove otherwise, Barack is nothing more nor less than a fraud, a usurper, and a clear and present danger to our constitutional Republic.

  • tim

    Obama put his girls in the supreme court who have been protecting his birth all this time. It’s called payback, just like the unions and everyone else who don’t have to worry about obamacare. Obama and harry reid are 2 of the biggest hypocrites who have ever held a public office. They say one thing and do another, let’s not forget thier girl pelosi

  • james

    hmmmmm, Sounds like they are “targeting” a group to me. (discrimination anyone?) Why should anyone who questions his citizenship have to pay a $100 dollar “tax” to see something that doesent exist? Just last week it as announced by the new governor of Hawaii,(abercrombie who likes obama) says “it doesent exist”. Stop the greed, spending, and lies! We all know he’s a closet socialist with very limited political experience, questionable motives, and now many are starting to question his mental capacity.

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      ‘Just last week it as announced by the new governor of Hawaii,(abercrombie who likes obama) says “it doesent exist”’

      This was a hoax that was discredited almost as soon as it came out.
      http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101270012

      If you don’t want to pay the $100 ‘tax’ then don’t ask for a coy of the birth certificate. When are you going to post your birth certificate on line?

      • james

        Typical liberal, firstly I nor he has to display our b/c online (nobody asked for that). But what makes you think the first person to pay the $100 wont do it genius? That kinda kicks your left wing screwing the people again right square in the @$$ dont it?

        People on the left are so funny,they can stumble over the truth, then get up and dust themselves off as if nothing happened.

        • Kinetic1

          james,
          Let’s just say that someone on the right pays the money and then posts the results for the whole world to see. Do you really think anyone who is suspicious of the President will accept it? My guess is that they will claim that the poster is a left wing shill and continue to proclaim President Obama a Kenyan.

          As for the money, I don’t believe that the state of Hawaii is all that interested in making a fortune on this. They would be happy if people would just stop calling about this day after day after day.

          • Vicki

            So how much money will the government spend to pass a bill to charge $100 for a certified copy of a birth certificate? The ROI on that is why government can’t run a business.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Whereas people on the right don’t deal with truth at all.

          • Vicki

            Argumentium ad hominem

          • Brad

            Doc,

            Why should we, the left has lied so much we can’t take it with a grain of salt any more. Prime example the left leaning media.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Doc Sarvis,
            Explain why we haven’t heard anything about the two college kids that hacked into the college records?????? got too close to his records PERHAPS???

          • JC

            Garbage.

      • james

        Do you honestly think Mike Evans would say if it was a forced retraction? Explain why Obummer would spend so much of his own money to hide his real identity. I know its hard to do after you burn your brain out on illicit drugs like most libs do, but THINK DUDE!

      • IRA

        I would gladly post my, “EXISTING” U.S. “LONG FORM” birth certificate on line and anywhere else that the public could get to see it, if I were to run for the presidency. Because I “HAVE” one. Because I would not have anything to “HIDE”. Because the public has a “RIGHT” to see it. How’s that for starters.

      • JIBBS

        And media matters is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth ?

    • bob wire

      “Why should anyone who questions his citizenship have to pay a $100 dollar “tax” to see something that doesn’t exist?”

      Well James ~ that doesn’t sound like “questioning” to me. But comes across more like “Knowing”

      You seem to be a victim of your own thoughts.

      I can’t prove that God exist or that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. I can’t even prove to you which direction “up” is.

      I can’t even prove that I exist to anyone that refuses my evidence. It’s very possible I could be someone else from somewhere else.

      “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

      it’s interesting to note; the requirement for a US Senator is lesser.

      “No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.”

      As I understand it, even John McCain qualifications could be suspect and up for review if the same scrutiny might be applied. As I understand it, he was born in Panama.

      Being an American, is more then just a place of birth and summed up rather nicely by Thomas Jefferson when he wrote;

      “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”

      Now it is up American men and women everywhere to rise and make that so, for it doesn’t have to be.

      • JimC

        “… John McCain qualifications could be suspect and up for review if the same scrutiny might be applied. As I understand it, he was born in Panama…..”
        And that is part of the arguments going on nationwide….McCain’s citizenship / elegibiity WAS questioned / vetted by committee BEFORE the election — when it should be.
        As near as I can tell, Obama was vetted only by Nancy Pelosi, and I not positive she did a very good job.
        The Committee found that John McCain WAS born in the Panama Canal Zone……on a navy base to two US citizen parents. It is that troublesome “navy base” and “parentage” part that frequently got left out of the opposition’s stories.

        • Vicki

          The hypocrisy of the Democrats and Republicans is painfully obvious in their detailed vetting of McCain and no vetting in Obama.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JimC,
          same thing as that pesky embassy, it is AMERICAN SOIL TILL WE GIVE IT UP!!!

        • JC

          Wasn’t McCain born on a US military base?
          That’s American soil.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JC,
            That’s the point I’m making!! If a man/woman is born any place considered AMERICAN SOIL TO BOTH AMERICAN PARENTS,THE CHILD IS NATURAL BORN!!!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      That way they’ll have your name and address and assume you’re anti-BO.

  • Fly By Night

    Oh ~ I know… Have Obama take his shoe off and compare his foot print with the foot print on his long form birth certificate in Africa and The United States of America!!! :-)

    • JIBBS

      That would put the whole thing to rest once and for all.

  • Raggs

    I see it this way…. If someone had a reason to believe that I was not born here I would do everything possible to prove that person wrong before it went too far or out of control….

    Why obama choose not to do that?

    • bob wire

      Why would you do that Raggs.

      Does what other people believe matter that much too you?

      You never seemed to be the type to care what others believe before.

      Why start now?

      • Vicki

        Maybe he needed a secret security clearance. A drivers license. A MARRAGE certificate. A PASSPORT?

        How come Obama doesn’t need to show his birth certificate for thos things btw?

    • Doc Sarvis

      It has been proven that he is a citizen. It would be a huge-unending waste of his valuable time to keep going over the same evidence with people who will not accept the truth.

      • Brad

        Doc,

        All Obama has to do is produce the long form signed by his birth doctor, end of conspiracy the left won.

        Abercromby can’t find Obama’s real BC, (funny) records indicate an entry into the archives on Aug 6th 1961 of a live birth (Obama) the address his grandparents. The papers pick up the announcement two days later. Abercromby’s DHS secratery can’t locate said BC document’s at either hospital available for live births at that time. Hmmm things that are unanswered and you have not a single answer to back up your claim he is a citizen? Any one can apply for a certificate of live birth, it’s the original BC signed by the doctor every one is interested in, just show it and it’s game over, plain and simple.

      • JIBBS

        Valuble time, are you refeering to his vacations, I’m realy getting fed up with your dumbness. What don’t you understand ??

  • http://com i41

    States require a birth certifacte to get your driver permit even, if you are married for decaded to ID everyone since 9/11. Either Onumnutts isn’t a citizen or definitely a phony. To run for any county office you must showe a birth certificate. Why is the crossbred kenyan slub, given a pass plus spending million to hide out his identity, is he a a domestic terrorist? Is it like procuting the black panthers, a special minority status.

  • Patriot

    The Truth Shall Set You Free! So, we have an undocumented worker in the White House? Shouldn’t the salary be about 1/3 or less? How about impeachment before it costs us all our Liberty & Freedom! There is a way to impeach this guy with the HealthCare Law now being declared unconstitutional, if Obama & him minions defy the court order we can move to impeach, thoughts? Does the Congress have the backbone to do what needs to be done?

    • JIBBS

      I do, do you ?

    • Dan az

      Patriot
      Releasing combatants back into war is also treasonist!

  • bob wire

    This is just too rich! LOL!

    To say something like , “I wouldn’t pay $100.00 for a copy of a forgery”

    is about as predetermined as it gets.

    That anyone would rather believe some unknown, un-affirmed source in Kenya is not surprising, hey it’s got his foot print on it and it on bamboo paper!

    I’ve got one with my footprint on it too but even the US SSA office won’t accept it. I guess they don’t want to look at my foot!

    • DOGS FIGHT

      Don’t worry bob, soon the dollar will collapse and you will be starving to death in a FEMA camp. How much food do you have saved up in case the crap hits the fan? Those food stamps will continue to buy plenty of food forever and ever AMIRITE?

      • bob wire

        It’s crazy dawg, but I know you want to be right! You want to be right so bad, you’d do everything you could to make it happen.

        I don’t know much about food stamps, not as much as you lest wise. But if the such an event might happen, my guess is food stamp probably go down better with a little salt.

        And one man being born anywhere is not going to stop it or make it happen. You are giving “O” more credit then he could ever possibly deserve.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        DOGS FIGHT,
        Doc doesn’t ge tfood stamps, he’s a Dr.!! Yup, he’s a proctologist, that’s why he’s always got his head up somebodies a$$!!!!

  • http://www.newsandopinions.net Bill Stanley

    $100 will NOT get you a copy of an original birth certificate that includes the names of the hospital and doctor. http://www.newsandopinions.net

  • Fly By Night

    Ummmmm ~ well do ya all know that Obama and Hillary Clinton are blood cousins to the Queen of England as so are some other U.S.A. presidents? It is all a Family matter… Well Obama is the (so called) Black Sheep of the extra large family…

    Hmmmmmm :-)

    Don’t pee your pants laughing…. :-)

    • bob wire

      as I understand it, we are all at the very least 32nd cousins.

      So why should there be any surprise.

      My roots trace back to Quanah Parker and beyond but I claim German/Irish and hold no rights or claim as a Native American in blood.

      • http://deleted Claire

        I also read that Palin is related to Obama.

  • Tom

    I think Obama should go on the TV show ancesters………

    If I read and heard right in the media, why is Oboma spending so much
    to keep his records sealed.

  • Mickey D

    You mean to tell people that they would have to pay $100 to see if the jerkoff elected as president was actually born in the U.S., when it is the LAW that this be made known in no uncertain terms? This is a typical pimp and hustle operation by the street mentality of the administration. ANYTHING TO GET YOUR MONEY. I have more appreciation for street beggars than this !@%T$^%$ crew.

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      How much did you pay for your copy of Bush’s birth certificate?

      • Vicki

        Are you challenging the birth location of Bush? If so YOU buy a copy and show it to us. At least Bush has one :)

      • JC

        ODS…how much are you paying for your internet connection?
        It’s wasted money, just like this Obama scam they’re trying run.

        • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

          When are you going to post proof that President Obama is NOT a natural born US citizen?

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            How do you prove a negative ? How do we know you’re not a Martian ?

  • DANNY

    I’m trying to understand. Our Constitution states that our President must be a natural born citizen. Now logic would tell me that if this is required, proof should come before elections not after. Since this did not happen, why are those who question labeled as birthers, crackpot, nuts etc etc? If I were president, which thankfully for myself and everyone else I’m not, I would be falling all over myself showing my proof of Citizenship. Seems strange to me Obama can’t come up with proof and furthermore is in violation of the Constitution by not producing it. Now they are even minimizing the importance by making a game of it by charging money for a copy. We can go on forever but as far as I’m concerned, until the origional (un-counterfieted) document is produced, he is inelegible for office. Seems to me at this time all they have to work with is smoke and mirrors and hopefull lies that if spoken enough, just might be taken for the truth.

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      “I’m trying to understand. Our Constitution states that our President must be a natural born citizen. Now logic would tell me that if this is required, proof should come before elections not after. Since this did not happen”

      What makes you think that this did not happen? It did.

      “If I were president, which thankfully for myself and everyone else I’m not, I would be falling all over myself showing my proof of Citizenship.”

      If you were president, and thankfully you are not, I would expect you to carry out the job that you were elected to do and not lick the boots of a a tiny group of sore losers and internet crackpots. I don’t think that walking from door to door with your ‘original long-form’ birth certificate is included in the presidential job description.

      Really, get a grip. Barack is the duly elected President of the United States of America. He was elected in an electoral land slide. If you don’t like it you will have to lump it.

      cheers :)

      • Brad

        Obama didn’t win by a landslide, Reagan won by a landslide when re-elected in 84. The day Obama produces his long form un-edited and with the doctor’s signature is the day I will call him Mr. President until that day Obama is our manchurian candidate president.

      • JIBBS

        Yes, you are correct,he won fair and square. But he is still required to show his BC, and not just a copy and if he is not a natural born citizen, game over and he will have to be deported, and anything he has passed or sighned is NULL & VOID. By the way, I’ll bet you are in your 20′s. Didn’t you have to take a Constituion test to graduate high school ?

        • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

          Yes, you are correct,he won fair and square. But he is still required to show his BC, and not just a copy and if he is not a natural born citizen, game over and he will have to be deported, and anything he has passed or sighned is NULL & VOID. By the way, I’ll bet you are in your 20′s. Didn’t you have to take a Constituion test to graduate high school ?

          Please post a link to the part of the Constitution that requires a president to ‘show his BC, and not just a copy’. No president in history has posted ANY birth certificate until President Obama. I can’t wait to see what you do when President Obama is re-elected to a second term in 2012.

          Gee, I LIKE typing PRESIDENT OBAMA, PRESIDENT OBAMA, PRESIDENT OBAMA :)

          • JC

            And further to that thought:
            YES WE CAN – YES WE CAN – ZEIG HEIL – ZEIG HEIL
            Mindless morons.

          • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

            I see you couldn’t post a link, just that Zieg Heil crap that you Nazis like to yell at your tea bagging parties.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        ODS,
        He hasn’t been asked to go door to door. Just to display a LONG FORM on the internet in a high resolution picture!! We can do the rest! comparasons are easy!!

    • Vicki

      DANNY says:
      “I’m trying to understand. Our Constitution states that our President must be a natural born citizen. Now logic would tell me that if this is required, proof should come before elections not after. Since this did not happen, why are those who question labeled as birthers, crackpot, nuts etc etc?”

      Because it is standard practice to ridicule people who are onto something you want very much to hide. Media and government use this technique all the time. It is called demonizing the opposition. Most “mud-slinging” in political campaigns are examples of this. Calling a group you don’t like a “cult” to get the general populace to be against that group is another example.

  • Ken R

    Why has Obama spent over $2 million of the taxpsyers dollars to keep from producing this $100 document?

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      I heard it was two TRILLION dollars!

      • Vicki

        Obama Derangement Syndrome. How do you expect us to take you seriously with statements like that. You have provided enough evidence that you are just here to try and ridicule people. As such you are clearly a troll.

        • JIBBS

          Watch out for Doc also, another paid for, TROLL

  • Joey Biden

    To all you naysayers who think Obama is legit, I say the same thing to you as Obama, “PROVE IT”. If he has nothing to hide, then provide beyond a shadow of doubt “PROOF”. For 2 years and countless dollars he has kept it all a secret. Usually people who dodge the truth are ultimatly liars. Where is the “TRANSPARITY” he promised? Probably locked up with his non- US birth certificate. Naysayers, please keep your heads in the sand so the rest of us can get to the real truth.

    • Vicki

      I’d even settle for “beyond a reasonable doubt”. With all the money spent to cover up Obamas past the only chance of that is a real birth certificate and a bunch of good explanations of why obama was able to go where no US Citizen could while not having the money/clout to buy his way there.

  • Joey Biden

    OH! and yes I think he should be impeached for not producing his birth certificate. End of story!

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      In this case here you go http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

      Happy now?

      • Brad

        Sorry, that’s Obama certificate of live birth not his Birth Certificate signed by a doctor, the long form.

      • Vicki

        Old data. Still waiting for a “birth certificate”

      • JIBBS

        Snopes has been proven wrong on more than several topics, it’s a fact. You can join the SHEEPLE club.

      • kate8

        ODS – Snopes is nothing but a liberal “fact” finder funded by George Soros propaganda machine.

        It means nothing, proves nothing.

  • jopa

    Birth Certificate: Hell I want to see if Palin and Bachman have a high school diploma.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Agreed, and their American History/geography scores.

      • Dale on the left coast

        And which of the 57 states do Jopa and Doc live in???

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dale on the left coast,
          The state of confusion!!!

      • Patriot

        Coming from the same guy “Obama” that visited all “53 states and has 1 more to visit prior to the election”! There is no defense for the indefensible! I would like to see Obama’s records just to see how Smart he really is, wasn’t it Fredo in The GodFather that uttered “I’M Smaaat, really I’m Smaaat? Sounds like you and the media still have your head up your &**^^! He who throws stones should not live in glass houses!

        • Doc Sarvis

          Take your own advice about throwing stones – at least I don’t get my wisdom from Hollywood movies -especially bad ones like the Godfather.

      • Vicki

        I am sure they would oblige AFTER you get Obama to show his.

      • JC

        At least palin and Bachmann are Americans which makes them 100% more qualified the the Kenyan.

    • kate8

      jopa – Really? We don’t even know if Obama completed grammar school, let alone high school. We can’t see ANY of his records.

      I’m pretty sure those you mention have already submitted their records. If there was anything there of interest the Left would have smeared them from coast to coast.

      No matter how you try to spin it, it’s just Obama who gets to get away with being a mystery.

  • American Citizen

    We’re supposed to pay for something he was supposed to produce himself? Bah, humbug.

    Sarah Palin is a college graduate. I don’t know about Michelle Bachmann. But both have a lot of sense and know the Constitution.

  • Jim in TN

    A Certificate of Live Birth doesn’t tell WHERE he was born, ONLY that he
    WAS born. I wouldn’t pay $100.00 for a COLB.
    There is no Birth Certificate with the name Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. because it was changed to Barry Soetoro. I bet there is a Birth Certificate with that name on it.

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      “A Certificate of Live Birth doesn’t tell WHERE he was born, ONLY that he WAS born.”

      Go back and look again.

      http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

      It clearly says that President Obama was born in Honolulu on the island of Oahu.

      There is no Birth Certificate with the name Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. because it was changed to Barry Soetoro.

      Birth certificates don’t get changed. Do you really think that some government employee went into the archives with a bottle of White Out and changed Obama to Soetoro?

      BTW, what’s the big deal about a kid named Barack calling himself Barry? Is the name on your birth certificate really “Jim”? I’ve even heard of people named Robert calling themselves ‘Rob’ and even ‘Bob’.

      “I bet there is a Birth Certificate with that name on it.

      Then you won’t have any problem producing it.

      • JC

        So that would explain the 3 or 4 social Security numbers he’s had from states he’s never lived in and very likely clear up the issue of who’s passport he was flying into Pakistan with when it was on the US no fly list.

        NOT!

        • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

          Please post proof that President Obama has ever had more than one Social Security card.

          And BTW, there was no US law that forbade Americans from traveling to Pakistan in 1981, that lie was debunked years ago.

      • http://deleted Claire

        My birth certificate states the name of the town and state I was born in.

    • JIBBS

      BC list the state, city/town and county you are born in.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jibbs,
        i don’t know what the problem with that is!?!? I did it above!!

  • David

    After all this time covering up the truth why should any one think he would tell the truth now. This is the worst fraud ever put on the American people. The dems. should be asshamed to be connected to Obama.

  • Baba

    This is a bunch of Bull Manure. Obama is an American Citizen or he isn’t. If HE does not want to divulge his birth place/citizenship, which I thought a presidential candidate had to prove, therein lies the problem. Raise money to pay of Obama’s debt? WHAT? He has crossed all of his Ts and dotted all… Well hidden for some reason. Are we stupid or what? If Obama had nothing to hide, we wouldn’t be going through all of this malarkey.

  • Tom

    Let me see, we have a sitting president that will not produce their birth certificate.
    BUT
    Has us in a war in Afghanistan that is killing our solders.
    Wants to take our guns away by using the UN.
    Will not defend our southern borders but will fight the state governments who are protecting our border.
    Has not done much of anything to produce jobs. Talk but no ideas.
    We have plenty of natural gas, but will not use it to get us off middle east oil.
    Says he is Christian but talks in the tongue of the Muslims. Not that, that is bad, but why not stand up for your religion and not pretend.
    Put 2 years on health bill that is unconstitutional. Has many ear marks with nothing to do with health care, but ran on platform to stop earmarks.
    Talks about undocumented works, instead of illegal aliens. I understand someone wanting a job but to get FREE government assistance is WRONG.

    And people wonder why Oboma is being questioned about his birth, not to mention his intentions for America.

  • Patriot

    Is the penalty for Treasonous crimes still death by Firing Squad?

    • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

      Yeah, but they probably won’t go after Bush or Cheney.

      • Brad

        No need they’re real citizens!!!

        • http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Obama Derangement Syndrome

          No they are not, I haven’t seen either of their long-form birth certificates.

  • Ramon

    Are they truly so arrogant to think they can extort money out of honest Americans that are concern about who is running their country? All he has to do is show and prove he’s American. Instead, they’d rather make a game of it. Never has there been a more corrupt state of mind when it comes to one president and his administration. Furthermore, how can they put this scam into a bill with a straight face?

    These are clearly not the Democrats of old. Comparing Obama to JFK is a joke only to be share with one’s self. Nothing Kennedy did compares to the abomination Obama has done thus far. We’re effectively talking about a guy who couldn’t carry Eisenhower’s jock to the other side of the Oval Office. No back bone. No leadership. No common sense. Whatsoever.

  • chuckb

    tom

    barry is black, if he was a white republican there would be no questions asked, he either produced proof of citizen or he would be thrown out of office, in fact he would have never made it to the election. this certificate thing is being thrown in our face by an arrogant party (democrat). do you think for a minute even if they come out with proof barry was born in kenya, that he would be removed from office? absolutely not, the democrats would drag this out in court until the next election. if they had any decency the birth certificate if it does exist would be produced without delay. the progressives are making it even worse by asking for payment to see the certificate, it would only take one purchase and then published by the media, so what’s their objective? the wimpy republicans should settle this matter immediately and show one way or the other what trap the progressives have laid.

    • Vicki

      Therein is one of the really interesting questions. McCain WAS challenged and answered with where he was born and under what circumstances. The question was raised by a few as to why Obama was not also vetted as McCain was. Why did the republicans fail to insist that Obama get the same opportunity to be vetted as McCain.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Vicki,
        I still think McCain threw the election!!

  • 45caliber

    If it was a real one, it might be worth that much. But from what I’ve heard, it isn’t. It is only a copy of what is running around on internet already.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    I don`t care if he was born in TEN BUCK TWO KENYA,, or in the town called HELL, located on Grand Cayman Island in the CARIBBEAN. All I
    know, we have to get ridd of this man and the thugs he brought with
    him to Washington. By the way, these are real places. If I had my guess witch one he and his thugs came from, I would say HELL.

  • http://NONE Troy Pittman

    I just want to say to all of those that want to take my guns and gun rights away from me are as ignorant as the people that use them for crimes!Think about it, you take all the guns away from law abiding people and guess who still has them or can get them,the criminals,killers,etc. What will we be able to protect ourselves and famlies with aa knife?Any one that wants a gun can get a gun legal or not. As smart as the American people are or are supposed to be that is just purely ignorant!!All of those that think they can get rid of guns have a god or control issue. They must control all and tell everyone how to live what they can and can’t have.I wish there were not killers in the world too,but they are here to stay just like guns are. No matter what laws are passed and my rights taken away guns will be here to stay.The President should not have the power to take my rights and your away from us.I am a Republican and Iwould still say and feel this same way. There are too many people that have been elected to office that want to strip us of our rights while WE THE PEOPLE stand idle by and do nothing. The younger generation sees nothing wrong with our rights being taken away from us. America is starting to remind me of another place we all know and it’s time we elect the right people in office to stop this and help preserve our rights as Americans.What I find bad as well is the 9/11 terrorists accomplished their goal. They hate a free America so or elected officials aredoing just what they wanted to happen “TAKE OUR FREEDOM AWAY”. Again I did not vote OBAMA but for those that did because for onething he promised “CHANGE” WELL THERE YOU ARE!How about him using spie drone over the US,OH that is for pot plants,drug activities, and illegals crossing over.Looking for pot and other drug activities means flying where ever he chooses to look!Some people like the younger generation and the others that think that is great just don’t care about another constitutional right called Freedom from unlawful search and seizure.The more time we keep our elected officials in office the more freedoms we can say goodbye to.Have you heard the term POLICE STATE? Jan 28, 2011 … Police State describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life …(GUNS,Freedom of speech,Prayer in school,Forcing healthcare…

  • M.L.

    Mr. Oboma, Iam sorry I cannot call you Mr. President as I feel you do not represent me nor the American people on the whole. In the last two years we have been quite generous and patient with you on the matter of your birth certificate as well as your backround. I as well as many have come to realization that with or without these papers you actually told by your actions. Any true American would be so proud they wold wave their birth certificate for all the world to see. Unfortuniately if you are or if you are not an American citizen makes no difference as you have shown a serious lack of pride in our country, and a matter of fact seems ashamed to be one of us. Therefore we ask you as citizens of this great country to step down or be brought down with your tail between your legs so that we may gain our pride back and choose a proper President to represent us as the great country we always were.

  • ONTIME

    Is it not amazing how the donkey fornicators (Deemers) in this country can figure out a way to try and make a mockery of the law? The bonehead in Hawaii must realize that compliance with the law does not mean you can charge money for that which is required by law to provide.

    They will come to this realization when the public says,” Give us your credentials, burr head.” the alternative will be, “Your time is up!”

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Chuckb,I wish folks would quit calling it the Democrat party.There is no longer a Democrat party. PLEASE CALL IT BY IT`S REAL NAME,THE NEW
    PROGRESSIVE PARTY OF AMERICA.These people don`t know what it means to
    be a Democrat.They are Marxist from the word go. They are a cancer
    that eats at the very soul of a Free NATION.

    • ONTIME

      DEEMERS…..A unapproachable group of asses, incapable of having respect for this country or it’s laws….

  • CREW

    The Kenyan BC does have a footprint on it. I think it should be cleared up with that and his footprint.

  • http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com Sam Sewell

    Does This Document Make Me ELIGIBLE to be POTUS? (or get a passport to go on a Dream Cruise?)

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/08/does-this-document-make-me-eligible-to.html

  • chuckb

    charles, please note i put the word of democrat in caption so those of lower learning would know of whom i refer. you will also note i correctly referred to them as progressives i did fail to add the word marxists for which i apologize.

  • DEDE

    Why would a pregnant 18 year old girl leave the US to endure childbirth in a 3rd world country when she could be with her parents in Hawaii in a decent hospital. You birthers are nuts.

    • JIBBS

      If we are nuts, that must make you st%@$d, you could ask that question about a lot of things people do…like not showing your BC when it’s required by the constituion and the law. You to can join the SHEEPLE club.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Why would an 18 yr. old girl take up with a (offensive words removed) in the first place. Then later she married an damn muslim. Yeah she was a real piece of work. Does Hawaii have to split the $100. with Kenya. Maybe they can produce one saying I’m the king of Belgium.

    • kate8

      DEDE – She was, no doubt, being with Obama’s family, since they all lived in Kenya.

      Who knows if she had other reasons for being there. Who cares.

  • 45caliber

    I may be wrong, but I don’t think it costs $100 to get a birth certificate from Kenya.

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    The anger in the room is palpable. I have more info. I set up the astrological natal chart for O in Mombasa. It matches his character to a T. He was born in Kenya, I am positive. Thanks to the poster for the website. O is naturally deceptive and duplicitous. Double talk is his religion.

  • JC

    “House Democrats have introduced a bill that would charge Americans $100 to obtain a copy of President Barack Obama’s birth records.”

    The President must prove he is eligible. What’s with the fees?

    “Some Americans, who are called “birthers,” believe that the President was actually born in Kenya, his father’s home country. If that were the case, he would not be eligible for the nation’s highest office.”

    It’s actually a moot point. His father was most definately not an American, and his mother was not of age to confer citizenship anyway.
    The guy is an imposter.

  • http://deleted Claire

    Hmmmm, the House Democrats introduced this bill?? I was under the inmpression it was an official from Hawaii–that if anyone wanted to see the birth certificate they had to pay $100. I will check this out.

    • http://deleted Claire

      I looked it up, a Hawaiian Senator is behind this bill. Egads, what next?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        Prog, Rep, or Indep????? Bet I know already!!1

  • Earl Walton

    I do not understand if he has one why does he not just stop the bullshit he is suppose to be working for us,I want to see it,I can show you mine.

  • chocolateFreak.com

    Where Obama was born is NOT important for this issue. Both parents were NOT U.S. Citizens, therefore he is NOT a Natural born citizen and does NOT qualify for Prsident.

    IF, he was born in Hawaii, he would be a Native citizen and qualified to be a Senator but NOT the President. Now have some chocolate and ask yourself why he was elected, when most anyone else in the same situation, would NEVER have been elected President. What is different about Obama?

  • http://deleted Claire

    After reading all of these posts, if we were to see the “actual bonafide and legitimate” birth certificate belonging to Obama, would we believe it?

  • Ruth

    Are they going to challenge the citizenship of every person born in Hawaii–like my sister-in-law–with similar certificates? It’s frustrating to argue facts with the reality-challenged, but even my FOX-deluded mother-in-law thinks her daughter–and the President–are citizens.

    • http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com Sam Sewell

      Anchor babies are citizens too. That doesn’t make the eligible to be POTUS

      http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2010/01/einstein-debunks-obot-eligibility.html

      Einstein debunks Obot eligibility theory
      Albert Einstein did much of his work in physics by conducting “thought experiments”
      .
      Here is a political thought experiment designed to refute the naïve thought that I have seen repeated so many times; “the fact that Obama’s mother was a US citizen when Obama was born settles the issue, regardless of where on the planet he was born”:

      Suppose that in 1975 Osama bin Laden married his first wife, an American girl who was only 17 years old. A male child was born to Osama bin Laden that same year. By the year 2012 this male child was old enough to be President of the United States and since his mother was an American Barak Hussein Osama was legally able to be on the ballot and in 2012 the son of Osama bin Laden was elected as President.

      Or is that just plain wrong?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Sam Sewell, I may be wrong, for Obama to be born outside the US both of his parents must be neturlize citzens for him to be able to run for President.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Ruth, JUST MAYBEE

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Chocolate Freak, He got elected because the main street media made
    sure of it. Tell a lie enough times and people will start to believe,
    what ever you tell them. Some people thought he was the second comming
    of Christ and still do. We know better, don`t we?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Clarie, At this point I wouldn`t.They have had to much time to do their dirty little tricks.Do you believe anything else they tell you?
    Look how they have lied about what health care was suppose to do,and the list goes on and on.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Earl Walton, he has never worked for us, another lie.He works for a man named, George Soros, who in turn works for a Britt. by the name of,
    Jacob Rothschild and his son, Anthony.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Soros needs a meeting with Mr. Nozler. it will change his mind.

    • Earl Walton

      No he hasn’t nor will he ever.America is suppose to be god respecting people he is not.America means little of shit to him.He is the begining of something evil.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    ChuckAb, my fault, won`t happen again. You are right.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Ramon, they were arrogant enough to get him elected President. It worked before, so why won`t it work again and again and again.

  • JohnK

    I am in Hawai’i and I believe the only reason these politicians here are doing that is because we are in a HUGE deficit situation. They don’t want to make any budget cuts because the majority of them are all left wing democrats(Socialists). They propose to tax our soda, tax the retired, etc. instead of cutting the pork. I hope you get the idea of why they are trying to pawn off the idea that there might be a long form in Hawai’i.
    Then of course, if it isn’t, I guess you could sue the politicians here for selling merchandise that was not as described or such.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    Beyond his questionable birth place, how did he get away with switching from muslim to Christian ? Don’t the rags put a death sentence on people who do that ? Why not BO ?
    Can you say Manchurian Candidate ? If it walks like a duck…….

    • Earl Walton

      Your right,an he has always been ba muslim.Can you imagine if an white person had had a preacher say “god damn America and talked shit about blacks,muslims,mexicans,ect. and was running for president.Holy shit!WTF

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    gunner689,
    Only if they mean it to further their cause, they can change to
    whatever they wan`t to be. This man is very evil and believe it are not
    many people believe him. He double talks you to the point that people can`t
    wait to bow down to him.If you don`t bow down his feelings are very
    hurt. He thinks all people should love him, and believe and do, what he tells you.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Earl Walton,
    People of color he has done less for, than us white folk.It is A fact,he already has the people of color vote,now he need more of our
    votes.

    • Earl Walton

      If he was in fact legal.He should not be president now let alone run agian.He is very evil.I am still trying to understand how he became president,no birth certificate,being a muslim and he is anti-american.How does this happen is America that F#$k up.Something has to be done,already.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Those facts speak volumes about the type of people who voted for and still support him. He has certainly flushed out our Domestic enemies.

        • Earl Walton

          I have a son protecting this country fighting muslims,we have not heard from him in a month,it sickings me to know his so called commander an cheif is also the enemy.Now gays an lesbians in our beloved corps.It was not allowed during my grandfathers time in ,my fathers or mine an my son does not want to see it now.He is trying to destroy our military to make it easier for his muslim brothers to take over America.We will have to defend our country in our own country.GOD BLESS AMERICA.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Earl:

            just another step in destroying our country piecemeal. There is a reconing coming. Good luck to your son, mine got home last week.
            Semper Fie; Do or Die.

  • Earl Walton

    Thank you gunner.Tell your son I said my family thanks him for his service,SEMPER FI.Hope you are ready to defend your own “back yard” I am,everything is cleaned, oiled,loaded an sited in.

  • Debra

    Obama was born in Kenya. A man was able to obtain his true “live” birth certificate from Kenya. See: WasObamaBorninKenya.com. When he sent a copy to Nancy Pelosi, she ignored it. Be sure you read his testimony. Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, born 29 Nov 1942, was living in Hawaii with her parents, when she met Barack Husein Obama Sr., born in 1936, and got pregnant by him. She travelled to Kenya and lived there at the time her baby was born, 4 August 1961. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was born at the Coast Province General Hospital, in Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya. The “live” birth certificate has the Kenyan stamp of the Chief Administrator, and also the signature of the attending doctor, “James O.W. Ang’awa, and also, the signature of the attending Supervisor of Obstetrics, John Kwame Odango. All signatures were signed on the document in August of 1961. This shows us that Obama Sr. was six years older than Ann, and that she was nineteen years old when she gave birth in Kenya. Why would Americans want to pay $100.00 for a false computer generated document when they already know the truth? By now, half of the U.S. should have knowledge of the true birth certificate by now.

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