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Debunking The Anti-Paul Messages

December 26, 2011 by  

Debunking The Anti-Paul Messages

The Republican establishment has become apoplectic over Congressman Ron Paul’s growing strength in Iowa.

Last week, Iowa Governor Terry Branstad attempted to delegitimize his own State’s vote when he said that if Paul wins the Iowa Caucus, it won’t matter. Of course, if Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney wins, he won’t say that. In fact, according to Branstad, a second- or third-place finish by Gingrich or Romney will be more important than a Paul win.

“People are going to look at who comes in second and who comes in third. If Romney comes in a strong second, it definitely helps him going into New Hampshire and other states,” Branstad reportedly said. What Branstad did not say was that he’s been offered a potential Vice President spot on a Romney ticket.

Branstad and his elite bedfellows are trying to draw you into an alternate universe. Never mind that two out of the past three winners of the Iowa Caucus have gone on to win the Republican nomination, a Paul win will mean the Iowa vote is irrelevant.

According to a new Iowa State University/Gazette/KCRG poll of likely Republican caucus-goers, Paul has moved into first place – the fifth candidate to hold that spot since the mid-August Iowa GOP Straw Poll. This is the second recent poll showing a Paul lead.

In the ISU poll, Paul is the first choice for 27.5 percent of the registered Republicans and registered independents contacted. That’s up from 20.4 percent in November. Gingrich is the second choice with 25.3 percent, and Romney was third at 17.5 percent.

For months, the Republican elites and corporate media have treated Paul like that cranky old uncle that continues to show up at family gatherings. They’ve tried ignoring him and they’ve tried dismissing him. They’ve been running a continuous communication loop that says, “Ron Paul can’t win.” Yet, here he is, on the cusp of an Iowa victory and showing remarkable strength in New Hampshire.

A common refrain from Republicans is: “I like most of what Ron Paul says, but I can’t vote for him because of his ‘isolationist’ foreign policy.” When they say that, what are they saying?

After all, many Republicans say they can easily vote for Gingrich even though they don’t agree on some of his positions: i.e. infidelity, national database of gun owners, support for the recently passed National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that permits the indefinite detention of Americans upon the President’s order, support of cap-and-trade, support of individual mandates to purchase healthcare, support of TARP and bailouts, etc. And many Republicans say they can vote for Romney, the author – essentially — of Obamacare (through his Romneycare), who has flipped and flopped on core Republican issues like a fish in the bottom of a boat. And they say they can vote for Michele Bachmann, who voted for the USA Patriot Act and the NDAA.

They are saying, simply, that they have been so terrorized by their government and the mainstream media they are willing to surrender all their freedom and wealth to the military industrial complex and big government so people in a foreign land can be bombed into submission and subjugation. Years of government propaganda and years of war have cemented in their minds the need for perpetual war.

For my conservative friends who don’t like Paul because of his noninterventionist — because that’s what his policy is, and he describes what that means here — foreign policy, consider how long we have been at war in the Mideast.

America and the CIA have been meddling in the affairs of Middle Eastern countries for decades. Read The Secret History of The American Empire, by John Perkins. In 1990, after an American ambassador hinted to Saddam Hussein that the United States would not stand in his way were he to take over territory that was in dispute between Iraq and Kuwait, President George H.W. Bush and the United Nations formed a coalition to bloody his nose. We have been in a shooting war in the region ever since.

After 21 years of war in the region, are things any better? Apparently not, because the war has expanded from Iraq into Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya, and it is about to expand into Syria and Iran. And American troops are in Central Africa in an “advisory” role. Yet Americans thirst for more war and the top Republican candidates, according to the elites, are advocating more.

“But,” Republicans say, “Iran is about to get The Bomb. We can’t let Iran get The Bomb!” And how do we know that Iran is about to get The Bomb? From those same people who told us — inaccurately, it turns out — that Iraq was about to acquire nuclear weapons.

Iran, which is OPEC’s second largest oil producer, can’t even refine enough gasoline for its own people. It has no reliable missile system. And we are to believe it’s technologically capable of producing a nuclear weapon?

“But what about Israel?” Republicans then ask. Israel has a couple hundred, at least, nuclear weapons sitting at the ready and is perfectly capable of defending herself.

Consider that there is much more at work here than meets the eye. To understand what is really going on, you must peel back the layers of conventional wisdom, like peeling an onion. There are nefarious maneuverings of nongovernment organizations (NGOs) at work. Few are able to escape their normalcy bias to see this.

The plan for the takeover of the vast oil reserves and riches of the region have been in the works for a long time. NGOs have worked behind the scenes and in secret to shape the policy. But the Brookings Institute became so confident the policy had reached the point of no return that it released its blueprint in 2009.

This is why Presidential candidates are vetted by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg group before receiving approval to run. They must sign on to the New World Order to receive the proper backing and financial support. And it’s why the knives will be out in full force in the coming weeks to destroy Paul and his candidacy. (Previously debunked claims of racism surfaced again last week.)

Another question to ask yourself: If a potentially nuclear-armed Iran is such a danger to us, what about an actually nuclear-armed North Korea? Why are we the elites not cowering in fear that North Korea could launch a missile at any second? After all, North Korea actually has a missile that can reach our friends and fellow democracies in South Korea and Japan — and can probably reach portions of the U.S. West Coast.

What about a nuclear-armed Pakistan, which likes us less and less with each drone strike and violation of their territorial integrity?

What about Russia and China, who will be very offended if the United States leads an assault on Iran and Syria? Russia has already stationed warships near Syria, and China is unhappy with President Barack Obama’s military buildup in Australia and is responding by beefing up its military in the Indian Ocean. And you think this militarism is making the United States safer?

Finally, my conservative friends, one last question for you to consider: If Paul’s foreign policy is “crazy,” as many of you say, why have members of the military given more to his campaign than to anyone else’s? Could it be they have seen the dark core that lies beneath?

And before the “Ron Paul can’t beat Obama. We must elect someone who can defeat Obama,” chorus chimes in, a new CNN/ORC International Poll shows Paul faring the same against Obama in a head-to-head matchup as the “more electable” Romney. Gingrich fares far worse.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    Bob, when someone is called an isolationist, it means the septic tank ‘cream’ is flexing its muscle
    via a pc technique. In truth, someone who is protected by ‘insiders’ [Joe Blow is not an isolationist] is someone who likes sending our military around the world to spread “democracy.”
    Iowa’s governor is doing the work of utopian scum.
    Branstad may be a loyal neocon or RINO, but he’s surrendered his reputation in the process. To claim that a 1st place showing by Paul ‘doesn’t matter’
    is like a streetwalker whose first allegiance to a pimp.
    It’s also possible that Branstad’s “doesn’t matter”
    comment implies that Iowa’s caucus is owned by pre-programmed, ‘Republican’/GOP robots.
    We’ll see.

    • Robert Smith

      From the article: “(Previously debunked claims of racism surfaced again last week.)”

      How do you “debunk” statements that were made in his newsletter? Ohhhhhh, I get it! He was a “leader” in name only and he got hisself some of that there “plausable deniability”

      If he can’t control his own organization how will he manage America?

      Rob

      • Alex

        Ooops…..I wish I had read your post first! I could have gone to bed already! You wrote most succinctly that which I blathered on about….

        • Armed Drunkle Scotty

          You got the “blathered” part right, I imagine. I’ve never heard reason for it in anything Paul is saying. Gingrich changes lanes with every new speechification, Romney and Perry do the same, apparently following Newt’s lead. Dr. Paul, however, stays in his lane. You may disagree with him, but there’s no fender bender in your future. (Well, actually, he’ll turn the damn apple cart upside down…but other than that…)

          Obama, of course, stays the course verbally, but is clearly going in a different direction altogether. (The same direction opposite what he promises–he’s going in exactly the same direction Clinton and Bush were, contrary to expectations.)

          Who would you rather drive to work next to? Obama, Bush, Newt, Mitt (don’t these guys have real first names?) or twelve-times elected never-changed-his-position Constitution-defending (not like the current “scholar” in our White House) Dr. Ronald Paul. An obstetrician, author, economist, and state congressman who hasn’t altered his political position in 30 years, because it’s based on our Founders’ principles, which are in part based on the Magna Carta?

          Oh, but he’s a racist anti-Semite. Yeah, well…that’s all true.

          He’s against the federal government paying any attention to people’s skin color if they’re bonifide Americans, and he wants to stop American taxpayers’ money being dumped gratis overseas, and that includes our dollars to Israel (the biggest life-blood sponge in our budget).

          What a freaking un-American monster, this so-called anti-life Doctor with 4,000 newborns’ blood on his hands (they couldn’t all have been white or Christian). Our usually elected Commander-In-Chief’s job is to direct kids to kill kids, not give them birth goddamnit! The man’s unqualified!

          Sorry, I vent. I’m sure the editors will make the appropriate cuts.

          • Floyd Slocum

            Paw Kettel Can’t win, The gorup should back the best for the GOP
            and go after Obama, instead of cutting each other down. They act like school kids running for office.

      • Karolyn

        Personally, I do not hold 20 year old comments against people. As far as debunking, he has said that he did not read everything before it was published. I really don’t care. Even if he did back it up at the time, most people are not the same people they were 20 years ago if they are thinking people.

        • libertytrain

          I have to agree with you Karolyn -

          • Alex

            So then you are one of the few Fright Wingers to say “Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers….hey, that was years ago!” I applaud you!

          • libertytrain

            Alex you make no sense.

          • eddie47d

            Actually he did make sense for that was a long time ago also and people move on in their lives yet the right constantly brings up old dirt. That means Paul (whom I like) is fair game in bringing up the past.

          • walt

            Alex says that william ayers actions were years ago. The difference is, his physical actions might have been years ago, but he still says today that he didn’t do enough and believes in what he did. Wright’s actions weren’t years ago. They’re now and continue everyday. Most of the time people do take Ron Paul’s statements out of context on purpose. His statements on the civil war had nothing to do with race. It was a discussion about taxation without representation. Most people need to study US government during the 1850′s-1870′s. Especially Lincoln.

          • libertytrain

            actually eddie they didn’t make sense because my thoughts were similar to Walts – you’re comparing apples to oranges and the only thing similar is they are the same type of food – yesterday’s comments change as men change or don’t change as men stay caught in some constant of yesterday…or are spouting words today exactly as they spouted or lived 20 years ago…no progress seems to have occured in those particular brains.

          • Namnang Dorje

            It’s delusional to say that a person is not who they were 20 years ago. We may revise (or disguise) some traits, attitudes, behaviors, etc., but some of the same persist in everyone. At the level of Public Servant #1 these things should bear the greatest scrutiny. Prove or disprove, don’t believe or support without questioning. The true believer gets what someone else wants for him/her. If Paul’s followers were responsible for his troublesome publications we’d better watch out for Paul lackeys in the inner circles of FedGov power if he becomes El Presidente. Most of what goes on to move big things in this country escape the consciousness of “everyday people.” The newsletter association is too damning … he shouldn’t be in the race. Looks like a stealth candidate to me.

        • DaveH

          Good job, Karolyn.

        • Mark Are

          All a person needs to do is listen to the interview with the NAACP leader that is available on Youtube. End of conversation for those who want to believe that Ron Paul even has one racist bone in his body. Which is just an excuse that they have to vote for psychopaths.

        • http://Steve Steve

          gee…if that’a all the dirt they can find on Paul then what will the media to do??

        • Palin16

          Karolyn
          For once I agree with you.

        • bob wire

          And then too , what was seen as “acceptable” 20 years ago might not be acceptable today.

          To know where Ron Paul came from and what that region of the nation “accepted” as common place in regard to race relations. It would not be taken well or accepted in other parts of the nation, then or today.

          Lake Jackson Texas is a place suspended in time. In the last 20 years, Ron Paul has figured that out and made some adjustments.

          Up until 1978 my family still had surviving members of early slave families living on property. I knew of three such families. Freed long along, many elected to stay and were never asked or demanded to leave. They stayed on their own accord and was considered a part of the extended family, and had been for generations. They did what they knew and were comfortable with. Uncle Jeff Davis used them, paid them and fed them until he died at 99.

          As I said, Ron Paul comes from a time capsule of the old south and harbors no “Hatred” of people of color. If these 20 year old document reek of “hated” or “contempt” they would not be views of Ron Paul.

          However, If these documents seem to only display a “condescending tone” towards “blacks” by people of today, I would not be a bit surprised. For that’s just the way it was, ~ for the right or wrong of it.

        • JC

          Karolyn says:

          December 26, 2011 at 8:34 am

          Personally, I do not hold 20 year old comments against people.
          ___________________________________________________________________

          What comments exactly, are we talking about?

        • Pat

          Amen!

        • Mark

          If you mean everything you say Karolyn, then its hypothetically possible for Newt to change as well, right? Just making an observation.

      • jimmy the greek

        So what if he is a racist , what the hell do you think obongo is !

        • Glen Xx

          here is my spin, even if he were a card carrying member of the KKK,

          which we know he is not, I would still vote for him because he will

          Bring down the the Fraudulent Resv Bk.

          In my humble opinion, this is the most important issue in America.

          Freedom from debt. End the FRB

          Ron Paul 2012

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            You sustained brain damage some time in the past – Paul will never get the nomination (nor should he) – he is a nitwit – & a vote for him is a vote to reelect obama – get over it & move on

          • http://yahoo scout

            Capt. Rich You’re part of the problem. Romney won’t disclose his tax returns and vows to have them locked. Does this remind you of anyone? Go Ron Paul for taking this country back . smaller government, gold standard, eliminate foreign aide , tax overhaul, etc.

          • Phil

            I think Ron Paul is a good man who the people will not elect because of his age. He is either 76 or 78 I’m not sure but either way he’ll be past 80 before his first term would be over. At his age his physical and mental health or year by year. How long will he be up to the job? He look and acts to old to go up against a young Obama. It’s really to bad but the American Voter who doesn’t have a clue about what’s going on in Washington will vote on looks and personality. This is one of the things that took McCain down. He looked like a white haired old man next to Obama.

          • Devil Dog, USMC,DAV

            RIGHT ON CAPT. THE PROBLEM IS, THESE NITWIT RP SUPPORTERS HAVE THEIR HEADS SO FAR UP HIS BUTT, THAT THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH. IT’S SAD!! OF COUSE THE LIEBERALS WILL DO ANYTHING TO ELECT THEIR “MESSIAH” SO I BELIEVE GEORGE SOROS AND OBAMA’S MINIONS ARE INVADING THIS BLOG.

          • eddie47d

            Those “dashing” Hollywood good looks of Romney could persuade a few to vote for him. I think he comes across like an elite charmer as Edwards did.

          • Mark in LA

            Reagan was pure trained monkey imbecile and he got the nominstion in 1980.

      • Old Henry

        I read some of the “reports” from the LSM of what was perportedly stated in the newsleters and coulf find nothing racist nor anything I could seriously disagree with. As Clara used to declare: “Where’s the beef?”

        • JC

          Good catch Henry,
          All these anti American, anti Paul people are referring to things that were written in RP newsletters years ago that were supposedly racist.
          I have yet to see anything other than vague references and absolutely no literal examples.
          What “exactly” are they referring to?

          • JeffH

            Agreed JC and Old Henry…I keep hearing the same vague references.

          • Paradigmshift

            They’re paid shills, just like Capt Rich G, haven’t you heard about them?

          • Dan Dalen

            You know the Republican Party is in deep trouble when they start playing the RACE card!

          • Syl

            Dan, PERFECT! I was thinking the same thing. Where are all these racist newsletters they are talking about? I have not even seen an actual quote yet. If racism exists you can be sure it would be plastered everywhere. It is probably taken out of context so they can’t show us the context.

          • Old Henry

            Yes JC. Vauge is an excellant word to use in this case. Thank you.

          • Old Henry

            Say folks, speaking of taking out of context as Syl stated and another word comes to mind – trumped up – has ANYONE heard from any of those trash-for-cash bimbos since Mr. Cain dropped out? Hmmmm??

        • Average Joe Patriot

          I saw a scrunchy woman with bad body language in a sweater trying to stuff a mic into Ron’s face repeating the same question he already answered a second or third time, she was claiming that Ron Paul had to admit, she was in his face insisting the statements he’d just said he hadn’t made were “incendiary.” The interview had gone on for over eight minutes, a near record for CNN. “Well, but you hafta admit, the accusations are incendiary,” or some such. He took off his jacket mic and left, a rather long interview on current tax and other, substantive issues now apparently over, actual interview over.

          CNN immediately turned this minor media event (the clutzy END of a minor media event) into a MAJOR MEDIA EVENT: Ron Paul runs out on questons about denial of his racism. Ron Paul “Apparently doesn’t want to talk about this issue.” Really? Probably doesn’t want to answer questions about his slaughtering extraterrestrials in his garage, either. Stalks out on the already lengthy impromptu interview whenever the subject of freaky green aliens is brought up. What IS Dr. Ron Paul hiding in his garage? “Is he still tying up and beating his wife and kids in there? Ron Paul refuses to give CNN a simple Yes or No. Instead, this is what he had to say…”

          Ask anyone the same dumbass question he just answered twice (in this interview alone) and which he has answered many times in the past few years, then toss in some headline-grabbing spin about his thoughts about the 1993 WTC bombing (2011 minus 1993, do the math, was about 19 years ago, and there is nothing substantive he’s publicly said about it) while he is removing his mic and handing to the CNN techie guy…seriously, folks. It would appear that sooner or later everyone “runs out” on EVERY interview.

          Who wouldn’t look uncomfortable trying to end an interrogation by this shrew? I’m sure Wolf Blitzer would’ve handled it better. “Look, I have to pee, lady. I’m sure whatever you ask beyond this point will be ‘incendiary,’ I’ve been around this block with you people a hundred times, and with you about three in the last two minutes. I’ll have my people send your people a pack of Bics and a case of charcoal lighter fluid. I have stuff to do, you apparently do not. Your time with me’s up, dear.”

          RON PAUL STALKS OUT WHEN QUESTIONS OF PAST RACISM AND ANTI-SEMITISM ARISE…

          • http:ASATEENANDYOUNGADULT, ITHOUGHTITSHEERNONSENSETHATMYBELOVED LAND--CLASPINGTHEHANDOFGOD--COULDEVERSLIPFROMHERSINGULAR,SHININGPEDESTALOFTHEPRIME SAVIOROFOURWORLDFROMTHEAXISPOWERS--THENATIONCARRYI RAYMOND HARBIN

            RON PAUL’S EGALITARIAN PRINCIPAL OF PERFECT LIBERTY FOR ALL– WILL ASSURE THAT IN OUR REPUBLIC, IN TERMS OF POT AVAILABILITY— ***NO CHILD WILL BE LEFT BEHIND***.

            WHEN CANNABIS IS LEGALIZED, AND IS WITHIN THE GRASP OF CHILDREN, AND IS AS READILY AVAILABLE AS POP CYCLES AND PEPSI, WHAT WILL RESULT?? INTELLIGENT KIDS ARE NEAR UNIVERSALLY CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY REGARDING OLDER KID’S “ ADULT INTERESTS.”

            BARRACK OBAMA IS, DAILY, BURYING OUR GRANDCHILDREN AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN WITH CRIMINAL DEBT. PAUL WOULD, ALSO, IF HE LISTENS TO MANY OF HIS SUPPORTERS, LEGALIZE ***ALL DRUGS***. ASK HIS YOUTH WHO LEFT OBAMA FOR PAUL.

            THE IDEA IS THAT POLICE ARE KEPT TOO BUSY HANDLING DRUG VIOLATIONS, AND THIS RENDERS THEM UNABLE TO HANDLE OTHER LAW BREAKERS. PAUL’S RADICAL THOUGHTS WOULD BURY OUR ALREADY DERELICT AND STRUGGLING PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITH POT, OUR HIGHWAYS WITH DEATH, RIVALING ALCOHOL, OR WORSE.

            PAUL’S “ECONOMIC SOLUTION” TO THE COSTS OF DRUG-CRIME PREVENTION– IN PRINCIPLE– APPLIES TO ALL CRIME: LEGALIZE ROBBERY, RAPE, MURDER, TERRORISM, ETC., ALL CURRENT, STATUTORY CRIME – - SINCE, OBVIOUSLY, SOME PERSONS “RIGHTS” WILL BE VIOLATED IF PURSUED FOR PUNISHMENT– SO IF THESE AND OTHER CRIMES WERE LEGALIZED, 9 0F 10 POLICEMEN WOULD NO LONGER BE NEEDED.

            ***THINK OF THE MONEY WE COULD SAVE!!!!***

            WITHOUT HESITATION, I LINK SUCH IMBECILIC NOTIONS WITH THOSE UNSPEAKABLE PERVERTS WHO ARE NOW PUSHING FOR THE LEGALIZATION OF ***CHILD MOLESTATION***.

            MAKING DRUGS LEGAL AND CONVENIENTLY AVAILABLE TO OUR CHILDREN IS THE MORAL EQUIVALENT OF CHILD MOLESTATION- – ONLY, THE BRAIN IS ASSAULTED BEFORE THE BODY.

            IS PAUL TRUTHFUL ABOUT HIS PLAN TO TAKE 1. 2 TRILLION BUCKS FROM THE DEBT?

            ABSOLUTELY — BUT WE WOULD BE LEFT WITH A SCRAWNY AND INEPT DEFENSE–HE THINKS ALL NATIONS OF THE WORLD (EXCEPT ISRAEL) LOVE US. HE DOES NOT CONNECT TO THE PATENT FACT KNOWN BY THE ENTIRE LITERATE WORLD: IF IRAN IS OUR FRIEND–THEN, WE HAVE NO ENEMIES AT ALL

            BETWEEN PAUL’S OBSCENE POSITIONS, AND THE NOW OBVIOUS EVIDENCE THAT THE WEALTHY– BOTH AMERICAN CITIZENS AND ILLEGAL, COVERT, FOREIGN INFLUENCES, NOW CONTROL THE FUNDS, AND THEREFORE THE RESULT OF OUR PRESIDENTIAL SELECTION – - I AM PERSONALLY NEAR DESPONDENT OF OUR FUTURE.

            A MAN WHOSE CAPACITY TO RAISE ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN THE USA ***ALONE*** FOR A PRESIDENTIAL RACE –***DOES NOT EXIST*** – - ESPECIALLY A CANDIDATE WHOSE ONLY GOVERNMENTAL ACHIEVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MONUMENTAL INCOMPETENCE AND PRETERNATURAL DECEIT.

      • Visigoth

        … that would be called experience..( learning from your mistakes ).

        • libertytrain

          nicely said.

      • Karen

        Has anyone even bothered to look up the news letter that the media is trying to use against Ron Paul? I did and the media has twisted his statements to be entirely different than what the newsletter said.Look it up for yourself don’t listen to the media or other candidates,come on have we not learned, yet find out for your self,don’t be a puppet.This goes for any and all info.,get smart America!

        • Warrior

          In fact, when Dr. Paul wins, he should be allowed one Czar. Dr. Phil to talk all the warmongers down!

          • Old Henry

            Warrior:

            I have been thinking lately that when Dr. Paul wins he should consider using a page rom Saadam’s playbook and have a couple dozen look-alikes roaming the country.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          The smart Americans are going to vote for someone who can be nominated & win against obama – not a Howdy Doody from Texas

          • MJ

            It seems to me that there’s a lot of age-ism in these ideas that the single best voice in the Republican list is denigrated with thoroughly media-brained demands for a department-store dummie for their candidate.

            The dumb remarks about Dr Paul not fitting the department-store dummie image like all the rest just shows how the media has trained you to think the election is a beauty contest and horse race.

            Dr Paul is a grandfather and great grandfather to admire and trust. All this fear-Obama scaring by the RINOs is to make true conservatives loose their nerve. It is cowardly to vote for the lesser of evils when there is a true Constitutional Conservative with a 30 year history of being straight to those principles.

            And we’re looking forward to searching out and displaying the falsity of the ‘racism’ lying by the cowardly RINOs attempting to maintain their allegiance to the unConstitutional plans they have a history of pandering to, for their own share of the greed that is dragging this country down. We want Grandfather Paul.

          • JeffH

            Can I surmise you prefer the current state of affairs we experience from the One Worlders? Without Ron Paul, only the names will be changed…same-o, same-o!

          • Bill

            After reading all the comments on this site I have come to the conclusion that most of the contributors suspect you are an idiot. You really should stop writing your left wing drivel and confirming their suspicions.

          • JeffH

            Bill, there’s no suspecting involved…the Capt has confirmed it.

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            Did you vote for McCain? Did he win?

          • heartlandhelen

            ~~Hey, Block-head Bob… who sez a Howdy Doody can’t win? The George Bushes did…Oh, I forgot, they’re both One Worlders, so their Howdy Doodyism doesn’t count… Consider that Ron Paul may be the last chance we have to salvage our Nation… the One Worlder Globalists are certainly savaging it..
            I guess that’s my point.. Our Choice is: Salvage or Savage!

          • Old Henry

            MJ:

            Remember “The Stepford Wives”? I think we may have “The Stepford Candidates”…

            I wonder if they all have a loop on their backs with a string attached?

          • Old Henry

            Jeff H:

            I wonder if the Capt. is becoming Major Pane…

          • WickedPickle

            Looking toward the podium as I’m doing.. Just WHO in hell could THAT be? Pretty bad one can’t see the trees for the nuts. Paul may not be the best candidate for this nation, but he’s the ONLY one worthy.

          • John Woodbury

            Capt. Rich G. Please take a freaking grammar course. Capt and G are not words. Next get a freaking job and move out of mommies and daddies house. It was 20 something fools who got us into this mess with President Obama. Ron Paul is the only consistent candidate on the issues. We need someone different, the same old has not worked very well. Ron Paul in ’12.

          • TML

            “The smart Americans are going to vote for someone who can be nominated & win against obama – not a Howdy Doody from Texas”

            The smart Americans ARE going to vote for someone who can be nominated, and win against Obama… that will be Ron Paul. :)

          • Average Joe Patriot

            Well, Capt, I thought of so many things to reply. A bunch of other people already said them.

            I will just say this: NOBODY CAN GET ELECTED IF YOU DON’T VOTE FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET ELECTED BECAUSE YOU WON’T VOTE THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET ELECTED BECAUSE YOU WON’T VOTE THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET ELECTED BECAUSE YOU WON’T VOTE THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET ELECTED BECAUSE YOU WON’T VOTE THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET ELECTED BECAUSE YOU WON’T VOTE THEM BECAUSE you won’t vote for them because they can’t…

            …nah, I’m guessing you’re not getting it. Not that rigged voting machines won’t defeat us anyway. Personally, I’d just like to see what happens when that many concerned patriots get ripped off, have their sense of rationality and logic assaulted.

            That boils down to, how many of us are actually left?

        • Larry

          The press is so biased and inaccurate they are becoming irrelevant and everything they say is suspect. Neo-con conservatives have had a negative affect on our society and the world for far too long Ron Paul is the only candidate that gets it. Gengritch is a slime bag, Romney will be beholden to the Mormon church and the rest of the candidates just have the clear consistent message of Ron Paul. I love how Ron Paul’s message never changes regardless of the votes he could muster if he flip flopped. He just sticks to the facts.

        • Susanna

          Yes, I’d like to also recommend that people go to Dr. Ron Paul’s Website for his Presidential Race and also read his “Statement of Faith”. He comes from a family of very devout people, and he’s not the idiot the media portray him to be. You’re safer with Ron Paul than all of the other Candidates put together. Has anyone watched it’s a Wonderful Life? Get the movie and see it, it explains exactly what the Federal Reserve has been doing to our currency and how they’ve done it. “It’s a Wonderful Life”???? you’ll say. Yes, remember, George Bailey was running Bailey Savings and Loan, the only computer not owned by the Rich Miser who wanted to control the entire town with his money manipulation. Ron Paul is George Bailey…the Federal Reserve is the Rich Miser. Look at the movie and learn a lesson in how people manipulate money to give themselves more power.

          • Susanna

            Oops, I put the word “Computer” in instead of “Company”, just goes to show how Computer oriented we are these days. See my remark above.

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            Susanna, your comments are so cute! I never knew this “movie”. But now I will go on his web and see it.
            I have heard Paul is a very principled personality. I hope I have found
            the one I can cast my vote for, namely the ONE that says “Vote for me for I want to serve this Country and the People, my compatriots!”
            I’m tired of hearing “Vote for me for I am a Democrat!” or “Vote for me.
            I am a Republican!”
            People in this Country may not know how the Communists in China had won over the People. Their slogan was “We serve the People wholeheartedly!”. That was true when they were not in power.

        • Namnang Dorje

          I’ve read it and it talks about race war, shooting young blacks, young black females targeting white females for AIDS injections, war with the government. Kinda “incendiary” sure, and apparently signed by Ron Paul. If he can’t control where his signature goes how will he manage the geopolitical big time? If he didn’t sign or support what was being published/distributed, why did he allow his name to be associated? why did he claim that his education as a physician provided him the wit to figure out what was really going on in the FedGov as the newsletter states? If they were talking about Paul w’out his knowledge/consent perhaps there was/is a bigger problem. Mr. Obama is no better … and Ayers buddy hasn’t changed in 20 years … still subversive, still wants to make the USA a commie state. How many commies from 20 years ago do you think still want a commie revolution, uh, socialist revision, right here in the USA? Don’t be fooled by the passage of time. I know race haters from 20+ years ago who are still race haters. Reality is not conditioned by ideas, but sometimes ideas are conditioned by ideas (propaganda, popular -beliefs- [e.g., the 20 yrs thing]) instead of by fact.

      • Sean

        Regarding the debunking of the comments, it has been shown that the comments released by the MSM are only half-quotes to make it seem like Ron Paul (or his ghostwriter) was racist.

        For instance: The MSM released Paul’s comment “Our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”

        When in reality, this was the 2ND HALF of a longer sentence that stated:

        “Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficulty avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.”

        This is the most anti-racist statement one can find. But the MSM cuts out the previous sentences, AND THE ANTECEDENT PHRASE of the very sentence in question.

        This shows you just how low they will sink to say he’s racist.

        • JeffH

          Thank you Sean.

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            Same feelings here.

        • Average Joe Patriot

          Not to worry. Not only do “people of color” (as though any of us were transparent or even translucent) … they already get it (heck, they’ve been lied to at least as long if not a lot longer than “white” people have, dating back to the Indian, Jewish, and Arab slave traders who dominated the business of modern human subjugation at the time of our nation’s founding and long before. Many American blacks are Paul’s strongest supporters. They’ve had a lot of practice in seeing through the evil nonsense of color-coordinated human servitude. By the clever word, by the strong whip.

          They perceive Obama as one of their worst enemies (with the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson not far behind). They are as sick of useless political rhetoric as are many of their fellow Americans of vari-colored hues, and recognize dangerous language when they hear it. What all of us are hearing from our “leaders” is dangerous language these days, and much of it boils down to treason against the principles of human freedom.

          Paul is the only one who espouses maximum personal freedom. The rest advocate slavery. ALL of the rest promise us slavery with themselves as US plantation overseers. Promising us better rags, stolen from other slaves. Bad slaves. Encouraging us to be “good” slaves, so we will get the best table scraps.

          Most of you reading these words could easily pay down your mortgage or several month’s worth of rent with the cost of the clothes on the backs of nearly every politician you see on CSPAN. They go to dinners which would feed your kids for a year.

          We all know it. Our lives are run by multi-millionaires who couldn’t find their way out of Walmart. Because they’ve never been in one.

          Why argue about which political party is the enemy? (This may not be directed at you, Sean, this ridiculous format doesn’t permit us to easily see what we’re responding to when we hold forth.) The purpose of voting is to have a say in our lives.

          How is that we have no actual say, people? Jefferson, Paine, Adams, several others, said we do have a say…pick up a gun. Sounds extreme but…find one. Find a gun in Boston, or New York, or most of the places where freedom was first won.

          • Average Joe Patriot

            Okay, and I just re-read you post, Sean. I did not go too far astray. You’re one of most eloquent and observant people in here. You get it.

          • Armed Drunkle Scotty

            And another thing…I’ll have to change my handle. I’ve been in here for a couple of years, and have now seen so many names similar to mine (some of them obvious trolls attempting to dilute my messages) that I’ll have to distinquish myself as NOT them.

            I’m not Average Joe. I’m not American Patriot or Joe American Patriot, etc. I’m now Armed Drunkle Scotty. Anyone out there want to play with that, have at it.

      • Mike

        Because “managing America” does not involve controlling what everyone thinks, says, or writes. Americans have freedom to think rubbish, say rubbish, and write rubbish. (for examples, see Mitt and Newt)

        • Average Joe

          (for examples, see Mitt and Newt)
          ……More rubbish!

          Ron Paul / Andrew Napolitano 2012!!!

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            I hope and pray Andrew is not related to Janet or shares similar views
            with her.

          • JeffH

            Tom, no relation…thank God!

          • paulz

            what about Ron Paul/ Rand Paul? both share the same values…. Ron did a good job raising this (boy) man.

          • MikeinPA

            “(for examples, see Mitt and Newt)
            ……More rubbish!
            Ron Paul / Andrew Napolitano 2012!!!”

            I like it Average Joe!

      • Tommie

        To Robert Smith and other Paul detractors, who claim to be conservatives, following your own thought process about 1)you state “Paul can’t control his own organization”, you must agree then that Obama can’t control his own organization and must be held accountable for the actions of his people, like Eric Holder and his blunder then deniablity of his involvement in the “Fast and Furious” attempt at undermining the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, Or, if you really are not a democrat, how about the Flip-Flopping acrobatics of Mitt Romney or the Lobbyiest (I’ll support anything for money)Newt Gingrich. All 4 of the people mentioned here have track records. Everyone needs to do their homework and not rely on any one source for information to make the best decision you can on who you want moving the US forward from 2013. I truly believe that this next election will probably be the most important election in the histroy of the US. It may very well be the election that shapes what kind of country the US will be for decades to come. The decision to vote for this candidate or that candidate is lest important to me, than getting rid of the “Creature that lives in the White House” (might make a good horror movie title!) No one candidate will please everyone’s agenda. But we MUST remove Obama, if we want America to Survive!

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          I love your clear demarcation line! But that is only the first line.
          To put the Country back on the original course we must find the ONE committed to turn the clock back! Who is to be this ONE American Hero?
          American Superman? Unafraid of challenges, of controversies? Ready to serve and sacrifice himself?

      • fred

        So what if he is a racist. So are 12 million blacks and 14 million mexicans. What’s wrong with knowing the truth and telling it. You chicken.

        • Gman

          Fred: are you a pollster ? It’s funny, because I’m not white and I have NEVER BEEN POLLED on or for anything. Is that racist ? After all, I live in this country, too. From the way you talk, you must have polled many, many people. Were they racists ? Or did you ask those good ole’ boys who only speak the truth ? Just curious where yuo got your info from.

        • FreeMan

          I cannot find a difference if one votes for someone because of his or her gender, color, religion, ethnicity or other reason and someone that votes against one for the same reason. Isn’t each equally racial or gender biased? And explain why it is OK in Congress to have a black or a Hispanic Caucus when their job is to represent all.

      • Tom

        What was the result when they dug this up in 2008 to discredit him? It went away as irrevelant….in fact, back in those days, when he was informed certain writers were publishing comments contrary to his philosophy and stand on issues, he ceremoniously FIRED THEM! Again, put aside the rediculousness of trying to say he’s a racist, PLEASE…just look at his RECORD and VALUES he’s DEMONSTRATED over the past until now…it’s a person’s ACTIONS that show WHO he is…these immature attacks are just that, immature and MORONIC! Compare his record and values to those he’s running against….NO COMPARISON!! He’s head and shoulders ABOVE the other candidates AND Obama too….Obama’s establishment fears him, that’s why these things have surfaced again…but it’s not enough to discredit a man whose record is more consistent than the other candidates trips to the bathroom! GET REAL and GROW UP!

      • Gman

        I agree Rob. How, in this day and age of “mis” and “dis” information can we expect to truly learn anything about anyone running for office when the stakes are sooo high ? What and where is the proof that Mr. Paul did not have anything to do with the disparagement of minorities in his newsletters, etc. ? Why should we believe one source of information over another ? It really seems to point to whoever you side with as to who you will believe. After all, everyone who writes an article or publishes a newsletter has a perspective from which they write. So, I tend to take everything said about anyone of “importance” (elected officials, etc.) with a grain or two of salt. After all, if the layperson could ferret out the truth in these matters, we wouldn’t need the pundits, et al to tell us what is truth and what to think, would we ?

        • David Robertson Perth Scotland

          @Gman:

          There are ways to determine who wrote the articles. The first is the statement from Dr. Paul himself which is reliable based upon his character and track record that is in the public domain.

          The second is testimony from Lew Rockwell the present chairman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute who worked with Murray Rothbard (now deceased) at the newsletter publishing company and who was in a position to know that Dr. Paul did not write the words in question.

          Dr. Paul had only a minority interest in the company and contributed articles on hard money investing. His primary focus was on his work as an ob/gyn physician surgeon.

          Finally there is the internal evidence of “voice”. Anyone who knows Dr. Paul, has heard him speak and has read his writings knows without a shadow of a doubt that he did not write these words.

          It is true that one is faced constantly with lies, distortions and evasions in political media but this is one of the main reasons that people flock to Dr. Paul. They can sense an honest decent man who is without guile and has lived his life according to the principles of liberty and personal responsibility that he has espoused. Everyone who knows him, and there are many thousands now, will give this testimony. One should ask for nothing more than that.

      • David Robertson Perth Scotland

        The quick answer is that he doesn’t want to run the world or run your lives or manage the economy like the present lot and all the other candidates. He wants to leave that to the People. It’s called Liberty.

        Here is the longer answer:

        The enemies of the American people are attacking Dr. Paul with these accusations because he threatens their corrupt control of the US government.    They believe that if they repeat their lies often enough the people will come to believe them.    In your case they appear to have succeeded.  

        He did not write the offending words in the newsletters which in any case have been taken out of literary and historical context. Properly understood they are simply politically incorrect and uncontroversial for the time they were written.

        For the record, he was merely a minority shareholder in the newsletter operation during the period in question. His full time work was as an ob/gyn physician and he contributed occasional articles to the newsletter on hard money (gold and silver) investment strategies.  Those subscribers who took his advice are now sitting pretty and are well able to ride out the coming storms in the financial markets.  If the US Congress had heeded his warnings then we would not be in the present mess.

        Given the feigned horror of the parasitical punditry Dr. Paul has taken the moral high road.  He has forthrightly disavowed the spirit of those words he did not write and has pointed to the evidence of his entire life, words and actions which speak loudly in his defence.   In spite of being pressed to do so he has refused to name anyone else apart from himself, taking all the moral responsibility for what was done in his name by taking action to ensure it did not happen again. He has endured constant attacks ever since without retaliation against any of his attackers. Anyone who is familiar with Dr. Paul’s writing and speaking style knows that he did not write the words that have been attacked.

        He has the support of more minorities than any other candidate because of his firm, consistent positions against the unjust Federal War on Drugs and the unjust Federal death sentence both of which fall disproportionately on the black community.  As a physician he never accepted any government funding under Medicaid or Medicare and treated poor minority patients either free or at greatly reduced cost.

        Rather than simply regurgitate the dung you are being fed by the controlled media you should read and listen to what Dr. Paul has been actually writing, saying and doing for the past 35 years rather than ascribing to him words he did not write and accusing him of attitudes he has NEVER manifested.

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          I am so glad to hear you come forth to defend a man of principles. I will spend time to learn about him in depth. I do have a few points to ask for his own clarifications. Because Paul’s vision is so different from the other candidates. I am especially keen on knowing his world visions! I am impressed with his professional background, entirely different from the carriers embarked by others. In my native culture a doctor is considered the most altruistic personality of them all!
          Thank you for your eloquent elucidation!

        • JeffH

          David Robertson Perth Scotland, isn’t it unfortunate that so many of the American voters cannot see as clearly as a Scottsman(I’m assuming)from a foreign land. Thank’s for your comment.

        • heartlandhelen

          David Robertson, Sir:
          your post is one of, if not THE, best I’ve read in a long time. Such a relief from the inane rambling so many writers consider worth sharing!
          Obviously you are well educated, articulate, and assemble your information, and thoughts, before you publish. I hope to read more of your writing..

      • 1955thekeeper

        Give me a brake! How many statements, both inflammatory as well as racist, not to mention the vast number of decisions made by Obama’s minions have gone unanswered and unaccounted for? Ever hear of “Fast & Furious?” Every organization, from the Girl Scouts local organization in Walla Walla, Washington to the NSA have zealots or out and out loose cannons in their midst. Nothing which took place decades ago with his newsletter fits the precept of “Plausible Deniability” today. Ask this question to find its relevancy in today’s discussion, are any of those people, newsletter staffers, part of his current entourage? Can the same be said about Obama? Do Bill Ayers, Rev.Jeremiah Wright, Eric Holder, and the list goes on and on seem to be the kind of people you would want as the foundational and current support peoples in our president’s life? An old Japanese proverb concerning personal character goes like this, “If you cannot discern the character of a man, look at the friends he keeps,” or, the Anglo-Saxon version, “Birds of a feather flock together.” I don’t see Ron Paul going anywhere with racist zealots decrying the viewpoint of white supremacy in any form or fashion. Ever hear of a Southern Governor named George Wallace? Alabama and George Wallace, stood as one of the last defiant bastions of racial segregation, yet the man reformed his position, both personally as well as politically and became a genuine contender for the nomination of his party for the office of president. In his state, both whites and Blacks adored, loved, and respected that man because right or wrong, he took a position and defended his state from what he perceived as an intrusion by the Federal Government in the affairs of the State of Georgia. Sadly, an attempted assignation cut his run short and left him paralyzed. So, before you hop on the bandwagon to trash Ron Paul for the obvious transgressions of past newsletter staffers, look at the man himself and you will find that there is absolutely no evidence that Dr. Paul holds these beliefs as core values in his life.

      • Howlingmad

        The “COMMENTS” your talking about, were NOT in “HIS”, newsletter . . . they were published by someone who TRIED SAYING that it was “SAID” by him, when IN FACT, it had “NOT BEEN”. These so called COMMENTS, are both a “LIE”, an “WORTHLESS” . . . if you “KNEW” the man, you would KNOW, how “STUPID” those comments were . . .which you clearly “DON’T”.

      • TonyA

        The racism garbage is just that – garbage. Racism is now fully integrated in to the public school curriculum and television, and so, our society. It is taught, it is unavoidable – it is a tool of the “left”. Tolerance, diversity, sensitivity, etc. … just more “do as I say, not as I do” leftist rhetoric. Now, before you get stinky – put your thinking cap on and you’ll realize that all but a few of the Washington elite are “leftists”. Everything other than liberty is a leftist ideology. Welfare is welfare! It matters not whether the recipient is a corporation or a down-trodden immigrant, the “welfare” is welfare. Who cares whether it is Marxism or fascism? Neither follows our founding. The liberty of the individual man (genderless… for you PC pukes) is all that the gov’t is chartered to protect. All of us have been taught racism. It’s the only way to get it! If you have children, you know this to be true, as they will embrace and play with anyone. So, if you’re troubled by racism, pray that one of our enemies drops a nuke on Washington and wipes the whole lot out. Starting over is the only way – replacing them one at a time will change nothing. Democrat=Republican=leftist… get it right.

      • Jason

        Robert Smith. Have you read the letters in their entirety?? Or did you take the time to evaluate the content based on the snippets the media has provided. I can certainly sit down and have a conversation with just about anyone and later on find a way to spin particular comments within that rhetoric to my advantage.
        If you dig deeper, what about the riots in LA over Mr. King. What one of those letter states is nearly true, if you look back at the chronology of events, the riots themselves did dissipate around the first of the month. This is not opinion. My only wish is that Mr. Paul would clarify his involvement with the publication. In reality even if he states they were authored by him, it would have no bearing on my choosing him as the right candidate. I pity the man if he does get elected as he’ll surely suffer the same fate as all others who have opposed the FED. Our Great Country is much further gone than meets the eye.

      • JC

        Robert Smith says:
        December 26, 2011 at 8:20 am

        How do you “debunk” statements that were made in his newsletter? Ohhhhhh, I get it! He was a “leader” in name only and he got hisself some of that there “plausable deniability”
        ___________________________________________________________________

        What comments? Quote them yourself in their entirety.
        You can’t and you won’t because your merely parroting propoganda.
        You have no clue what you are talking about. None.

      • Dan S.

        I charge that the articulate publicists of our country, by their semi-hysterical words in print and speech in which they champion extremes of diplomatic and military policy, are driving us rapidly into a war of unlimited and unattainable objectives which will bring on a gigantic catastrophe of ruin and revolution at home and abroad…. Harry Elmer Barnes

      • Carlos

        I think everyone is missing the point. Rupaul is a nut job and his foreign policy is dangerous. He is totally unqualified to be President and he will never get elected period.

    • The Wolf

      “Utopian”? You pseudo-intelectual pot smoking Ron Paul supporters might just be the death of this great country. Who is the most dangerous man for president in 2012? Is ti Osama? I mean Obama? No, it’s Ron Paul. He cannot win. He will never win. You so foolishly ignore the fact that America elected Barack Hussein Osama. And you are so diluded to believe that NOW, oh yes NOW, they will elect Paul? You are out of your minds. Wake up, GROW up, and swallow the bitter pill that is the lesser of two evils, because THAT is where we are at. ignoring that fact gets us 4 more years of Osama and a HUGE nail in the coffin of America.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        YEP

      • DaveH

        If Paul can’t win with his broad support from Democrats, Independents, and thinking Republicans, who can?

        • alexa

          Both political parties are doing their best to ensure the votes of citizens don’t actually count.
          I have little concern what the establishment RINOs have to say because I don’t believe what they have to say. If Rommney and Gingrich were last and second to last, the Iowa gov would then say looses are the most important.
          Go figure.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          Anybody but Paul can win – he is a nitwit & right now circling Pluto with his Capt Marvel ring on

          • JeffH

            Capt Rich, because you said so? Eat another bowl of Capt Crunch, because I said so!

          • DaveH

            I can’t help but wonder, Jeff, if Capt Rich isn’t yet another of the HFlashman, Jeremy Leochner, Jovianus, etc, personalities.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, I think there’s no doubt that they came from the same mould.

          • Karolyn

            Come on, Dave, those you mentioned are much more intelligent than CaptRich. They at least have something to say.

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn and Dave – the cap, he’s a newbie – I think there will be a whole lot more of these bizarro types as Paul gains popularity with the people, I mean there’s angela and some other bogus broad a few weeks back – pretend to be more on the right but are just here to disrupt. And I don’t think flashman/flashy and his alter ego jeremy are any different, just from the left. There are others…the kind of come and go; I think they just take turns working the sites.

          • DaveH

            Don’t forget the Mick personality, Libertytrain, which was “conservative”:
            http://www.personalliberty.com/asset-and-wealth-protection/preserving-wealth/what-now/#comment-439910

          • libertytrain

            Dave – I remember -

          • JeffH

            DaveH/libertrain…As Alinsky suggested…Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style…True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties…I hink we see these tactics almost daily.

          • libertytrain

            jeff – perhaps you are correct – wouldn’t be the first time. :)

        • http://verizon.net budman

          Dave, as an Independent, I have to caution everyone here about the Liberal left, unions and Communists supporting Ron Paul and possibly why you see his numbers up. Those supporters will disappear should he win the nomination. The information on their support came from what I consider a Liberal Newspaper and therefore question why they would report something like this as i would seem counter productive.
          I am going to vote for whoever the Republican nominee is because we are serious trouble if Obama is reelected.

          • DaveH

            So you think all Democrats are thieving redistributionists, budman?
            The Leaders of both Major parties are in it for themselves. With the exception of Ron Paul and a handful of others, they are making fools out of the rest of us.
            Read “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo and find out just how severely we’ve all been propagandized by the public schools and MSM:
            http://mises.org/store/Real-Lincoln-The-P172.aspx

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            I think, Mr. Budman, you are a perpetual or born Conspiracy theorist.

        • APN

          and just when did a democrat start “thinking”? Never met one who had that capacity!

          i.e..; “I gonna do what makes me “Feel Good”.

      • JJM

        “vetted by the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg group before receiving approval to run. They must sign on to the New World Order” Not sure that these groups carry as strong control as feared but the continual loss of our Freedom and Liberty certainly play into their hands. As the wolves gobble up the sheep, I will fight for personal responsibility risk and reward as established by our founding fathers in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The only one I see who has consistently fought for our freedom is Paul. Paul is supported by innumerable members of all parties despite what the media wants us to hear. I am not a puppet on a string as many of our elected officials. Your representative quickly becomes another power hungry self serving shortly after election.

      • JC

        Well “The Wolf”, does it occur to you that your staement makes no sense and that you are as brain washed as the Obamunists?
        Vote the “lesser of two evils”? Are you F*#@ing crazy?
        Evil is still evil and the right is just as bad as the left, and you want us to sentence our dieing nation to 4 more years of this?
        No sir! We need our Constitution back, we need our Liberties back, we need our Industry back…and NONE of the other GOP candidates are any better than the kenyan. I’d rather see the whole place go down in flames than continue with this ridiculous charade,
        Out of the ashes will will see a nation born again AMERICAN.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          A Real a-hole- you need to throw yourself under a bus (driven by an American)

          • JC

            Oh you don’t like my point of view?
            Well you sure came back with a well thought out response.
            Typical Liberal…

          • Paradigmshift

            I’ve read several comments by you and I think you are bordering on breaking the comment policy of this discussion, get a grip!
            Just curious, who is your pick for 2012? My guess is Newt! But what will we get with a Newt presidency? Could it possibly get worse than Obama? With that question seeping into your frontal cortex let me quote from a book called “Creating a New Civilization” by Alvin and Heidi Toffler, Forwarded by that lusty former Speaker of the House:” The time has come for the next great step forward in American politics, it is not a matter of Democrats verses Republicans,or right verses left, but something more sugnificant… a clear distinction between rear guard politicians who wish to preserve or restore an unworkable past and those who are ready to transition to what we call a “Third Wave” information age society…”
            :…a new civilization is emerging in our lives, and blind men everywhere are trying to suppress it. This new civilization is bringing with it new family styles, changed ways…a new economy, new political conflicts, and altered consciousness… humanity faces a quantum leap forward. This is the meaning of the “Third Wave.”
            “…our argument is based on what we call the “revolutionary premise”…the revolutionary premise liberates our intellect and will”
            “Nationalism is… first wave. The globalization of business and finance required by advancing Third Wave economies routinely punctures the “sovereignty” the nationalists hold so dear.”
            “As economies are transformed by the Third Wave, they are compelled to surrender part of their sovereignty… poets and intellectuals of Third Wave states sing the virtues of a borderless world and planetary consciousness.”
            “The Third Wave demassifies culture, values and morality…there are more diverse belief systems.”
            “The Constitution of the United States needs to be reconsidered and altered… to create a whole new structure of government…building a Third Wave civilization on the wreckage of Second Wave institutions involves the design of new, more appropriate political structures…the system that served us so well must, in it’s turn, die and be replaced.”
            So, Gingrich’s goals, (in a nutshell) are to destroy American Sovereignty. Or am I reading more into
            “Creating a New Civilization” than is intended by the authors and their cohort, Newt Gingrich???

      • Mary

        Wolf, I painfully agree with you. Bankers, Drug dealers so many scums will be out of busines with Ron Paul. Government will be bad business not like now that so many rats are killing to get in. Collapse is coming no doubt about it with or without Ron Paul. The whole world need a deep cleaning. It’s not been racist it’s reality. Just look around.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          Mary – Mary quite contrary – how does your garden grow — it seems like with plenty of stuff you been somoking – its got your head screwed up – drink the Paul Kool Aid & wake up with an obama headache

          • JeffH

            You’re really on a roll this morning…mommy and daddy are away and the Capt must play. Try putting some substance into your comments rather than middle school childih humor.

            Can you? I think not!

          • Average Joe

            Capt Rich G,

            I’m guessing that you drew the short straw today?
            It sucks when that happens and you have to come here and play TROLL PATROL…huh?….ooops…didn’t mean to rat you out….(yes I did)…..

            You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
            Douglas Adams

          • kkflash

            For someone who goes by the name “Capt”, you sure appear to be gutless. Be a man and vote your conscience. ANY candidate can beat Obama now that his ineptitude has been revealed by a couple years in office. Ron Paul can and should be given the Republican nomination because of his good character, integrity, and common sense. If that doesn’t happen, it will be because of cowardly voters, who think that we have to accept a candidate without those qualities in order to beat the liberal Obama. We must never cower to the pundits and liberal media, but stand up and vote for what’s right and let the chips fall where they may.

          • Mary

            You are just one of the many waste of oxygen in this country.

      • SKP

        Little Wolfie, for you to call anyone “pseudo-intelectual” (sic) … what IS that? … jealousy? To imply that Ron Paul supporters are all pot smokers is … perhaps wishful thinking on your part, because that would seem to your ilk to bring them down to your level. But it’s quite incorrect and foolish. And it shows you as a mere crank.

        Then you go on to quote the dumb-dumb-jerkoff media and say that Ron Paul can’t win. What WILL you get right, Wolfie?!

        Ron Paul is only dangerous to the utterly contemptible status quo and its purveyors. THIS IS A GOOD THING.

        Heh, I had to laugh when you pointed up that America did, in fact, elect Barhack Doh-bombya. Got a point there. But this: “And you are so diluded (sic) to believe that NOW, oh yes NOW, they will elect Paul?” statement by you ignores the fact that the Doh-bombya presidency has PEAKED animosity to horse manure. Thus, it may be that on pure anger alone, Paul will win.

        Voting for the lesser of evils is what so many in California did, having ousted Dippie Davis: they went on to elect Davis, just with dark hair, muscles, and an accent. They were SO AFRAID that the good candidate (McClintock) didn’t have the name recognition that they shot themselves (and pretty well the country) in the foot to go for the … dingbat who had name recognition. IDIOTS! McClintock would have won, otherwise, and things would have been better.

        Lesser of two evils, my arse. No, Wolfie! BAD DOG! That argument is dead. DEAD!

        If Ron Paul doesn’t win, I fear that whoever is elected will be Obama’s extension, just as Obama is Bush’s extension. YYYEEEEKS

      • Mike

        That’s right. Either the Republicans can get behind Ron Paul, or they can enjoy another 4 years of Barack in the white-house.

        • http://verizon.net budman

          Mike: I am afraid that is exactly what will happen if Paul is the nominee. When the numbers start ringing up across the states, we will see who prevails and I think you will find Paul is not as popular as you think he is. I love the man for his honesty and truth to the Constitution but he scares me on foreign policy and he would unwittingly get us involved in a major conflict in the middle east by ignoring Iran.

          • kkflash

            Do you mean to suggest that we are not already involved in a major conflict in the Middle East? Ron Paul is our hope to get out of such conficts.

          • JC

            Do you mean a foreign policy of not screwing around in the internal affairs of sovereign nations? How is that “scary”?

      • mickey

        ACORN won the election. More and more evidence from several states are seeing obama did not have the signatures to be on the ballot (legal ones). Just like Newt. Should Newt be able to bully states into accepting this? NOT this time around.

        I won’t even go into the fraudulent votes. Pelosi pulled a fast one. I hope the repubs/dems keep BOTH parties our of the fraud.

        • http://verizon.net budman

          Mickey: The Democratic Party has used voter fraud for decades and they will be doing the same this election. Consider that in the last election in California alone, there were over 2 million illegal votes for Democrats. Harry Reid won recently in Nevada by rigging the voting machines with help from the union and using the illegal vote and had the gall to brag about the fact he would use the illegal vote to win. Eric Holder is fighting in three states against the requirement of having a valid ID for our citizens to vote yet gives the illegal immigrant a free phone to call in for welfare benefits which ties with their right to obtain a drivers license; an ID to vote illegally. I imagine it will be an uphill fight to overcome millions of illegal voters and at this point not much can be done about it except overwhelming them with numbers of our own.

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            And how do you suggest to get this accomplished? By creating divisiveness amongst the goodwill voters?

      • jimmy the greek

        They elected obongo ! Now That came as a major shock ,

      • vicki

        Lessor of 2 evils? bitter pill? Boil the frog more slowly? I think not. The lessor argument has been used since I was old enough to vote. All it has gotten me is evil. There are now only 2 choices left to me. Vote principle or vote for the greater evil so that maybe the frog will wake-up in time.

        I choose, as I have since the turn of the century (or longer :)) Principle. Ron Paul FTW. Join us and save the Republic or not and reap the fruit of the lessor of 2 evils. Which is still evil.

        Mr Paul can’t do it alone so we also must vote principle for all the house and senate seats too. And many others have pointed out and New Mexico (amongst others shows) that State and local votes must also be on principle.

      • Marty

        The “lesser of two evils” is STILL evil—and no GOOD can ever come of it. I say vote your conscience; vote for the candidate who best represents your political and moral philosophy. And I say “best represents” because no candidate (other than yourself) can represent your philosophy 100%.

      • Average Joe

        “You pseudo-intelectual pot smoking Ron Paul supporters might just be the death of this great country.”

        Care to ellaborate? Evidence to prove any of your theory?

        “Who is the most dangerous man for president in 2012? Is ti Osama? I mean Obama?”

        Considering your post, I would have to say without hesitation, You would be.

        ” He cannot win. He will never win. ”

        Not according to 95% of the polls….Seems to me to have plenty of support….how’s your candidate of choice doing in the polls?

        “You so foolishly ignore the fact that America elected Barack Hussein Osama. And you are so diluded to believe that NOW, oh yes NOW, they will elect Paul?”

        Are you insinuating that because people voted one way before, that they are incapable of waking up to reality and making an “informed” decision concerning who they want to lead thier nation?

        “Wake up, GROW up, and swallow the bitter pill that is the lesser of two evils,”

        I am fully awake, you on the other hand, I have my doubts about.

        You are free to swallow whatever you choose to swallow….however, don’t try to feed me the load of garbage you’ve been swallowing….I tend to feed my mind better than that.

        I don’t particularly who you intend to vote for, as I will be casting my vote for Dr. Ron Paul.

        Why is that?
        It is obvious to me ( as it should be to everyone else) that what we have been doing….ISN”T WORKING…..and maybe…just maybe, it’s time to take a new approach to the way this nation is beng run.
        Maybe, just maybe it’s time to stop electing “business as usual” “mainstream” candidates….who continue to run our nation into the ground while ignoring the will of the people and the rule of law.
        If we were to elect Dr. Ron Paul, could he really be any worse than what we’ve had over the last 40+ years (both sides)? If we were to elect him and he doesn’t make changes that positively affect our nation….can we not vote him out in another 4 years?
        Albert Einstein once said that the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over…and expecting to get a different result. Isn’t it time that we stopped the insanity?
        While I am not asking anyone to vote for any particular candidate, I will ask that you spend more time actually looking into all of the candidates’ backgrounds ( voting records, campaign finances…who they’ve made deals with etc.). learn everything you can about the candidates (not the MSM talking heads versions…do the research yourselves), so that on election day….you can make an informed decision about who you want to represent you in government….
        Remember, what they do is a direct reflection on us…..if they do foolish things….it makes us look like we elected foolish people….which means we look like fools for electing them in the first place.
        I don’t know about anyone else, but I am tired of the insanity and will be casting my vote for Ron Paul.
        You can say that I am wasting my vote….well , I guess that’s OK….it is after all…MY….vote……it doesn’t belong to any party or candidate….it belongs to me …to cast as my conscience dictates.
        I hope eveyone makes informed decisions concerning our future as a nation.

        The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
        John F. Kennedy

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          I am going to say you are not an Average Joe! You have made your points, based on sage’s doctrines. And I can also sense your intense eagerness to deal with the Country’s dire situations. I share your concerns and I will give all the time necessary to study Ron Paul.
          I haven’t hear enough of him. I just hope he will come off his scholarly attitude and more forcefully and “grandfatherly” expounds his convictions.

        • WickedPickle

          ” He cannot win. He will never win. Not according to 95% of the polls”…

          AJ.. Have you forgotten that ‘Loser’ in 1948? Even the media blurted out Dewey as their leader in black and white but Truman fooled them.. HE FOOLED THEM ALL!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNpVbfmF6vg&feature=related (ha!ha!ha!).. Now you’re crowing that 95% of the polls say Ron Paul doesn’t have a chance.. Well, I guess then that only those 5% will get out and vote then show you up as the political lap dog that you are.

        • APN

          …. and what makes RP any different from the aforesaid? I’ve looked at his record….unimpressive at best. I see no real difference in him and the rest of these clowns we have in Washington. How long has RP been in Washington anyway? 100+ years or so?

          We need a candidate that HAS NEVER BEEN IN WASHINGTON…period! So, given the fact that this is not an option, now, anyway, then I will vote for the best candidate to defeat this communist we have in the WH.

          RP is not that man and cannot win. Elect him as our nominee and find it out the hard way.

      • heartlandhelen

        ~~Sorry Wolf, but you are one sorry Dude!! It’s a foregone conclusion that the ‘pot smoking’ crowd is busy on Wall Street at the moment..(the unwashed ones) and, as I recollect, they are solidly behind the Big Zero.. He who promises true Utopia… Work is for saps too stupid to ‘work the system’…
        I’m impressed that there are no spelling mistakes in Gman’s reply to your rant; not to mention that it’s the best sentence structure he has demonstrated to this point..

      • Jason

        Wolf. Yours is a narrow minded view. For the same reason Obama was elected is exactly why a candidate like Paul can win. The people long for a difference maker. Youre right about one thing, if Paul doesn’t get the GOP nomination (Im actually thinking even if he wins the majority of primary’s he wont)His allegiance of followers are so loyal that the sheer amount of write ins for him is certain to doom the repub nominee. In my eyes, it really doesn’t matter. The elite have cast a spell of partisanship to confuse the sheeple of America. Democrat, Republican….who cares. Whats in a name anyway? The truth is they all run on platform and do, for the most part, exactly the same thing once they get to Washington! Which is find a way to better themselves and their constituents, while keeping themselves in favor for re-election. Damn the people and the betterment of society! So to me the difference between Obama and Newt is nil. They’re both puppets. At least with Newt or Mitt you can trace back their American heritage, for what its worth. Also even if Paul loses, Libertarians win. I say this because based on the huge amount of support he’s received running on constitutional platform, theres bound to be another Ron Paul in 2016. One a little younger, with a little less baggage, ready to appeal to the pissed off masses after 4 more years of Socialistic non sense from the Obama camp. I for one only hope we can make it that long without succumbing to a one world economy or WW3. Maybe the Mayans were onto something.

      • Average Joe

        WickedPickle,
        I I realize it has been a long time answering you, but, I believe you need to go back and re-read my post.
        Anything in ” ” is what The Wolf posted…followed by my response w/o” “.I am and have been a Ron Paul for many years…and that isn’t like to change anytime soon.
        Thnx, AJ

    • Old Henry

      It will be fun to watch if Ron Paul should come in SECOND and Newtie comes s in first That will make Newtie irrevelant and Ron Paul the man – for they have cast the mold for first v second. Congressman Paul could then campaign on the note that Newtie was first which by declaration of the elites makes him irrevelant.

    • Paul

      I don’t care what some of you say or not, I am NOT voting for Ron Paul even if he wins the nomination. Just think about it, He talks about honesty and the constitution, but he doesn’t mind giving false statements on national TV and discredit his peers just to win a few votes. where is his integrity? We all know that neither Bachman nor Santorum are racist nor fanatics as he puts it. they just don’t agree with him like 90% of the country in both parties. He says he defends the constitution, well I got news for you, the constitution was not base of false statements by the founders or made for somebody to try to manipulate it in his favor.
      I am stoping my subscription to this news letter and similar ones

      • JLC

        Paul —— ¡Adiós!

        • Paradigmshift

          Bravo!!

      • Eddie G.

        OK Paul,be a self defeatist. You can start by learning how to spell “stopping” correctly Mr. Stoping. Now your absence at the polls will be a vote for Oboy. Are you that worried about Paul? I don’t like Romney neither but better to have a no good RINO than a smell to high heaven Dummycrat who’s busy destroying the country with lefty ideology. I’m for Paul because he’s a solid conservative who needs to pull Joe the Plumber in for his Veep. But if it comes down to Romney then I’ll hold my nose while voting for him because the porch monkey has to go at any cost.

      • JeffH

        See ya!

      • duaner

        Goodbye and good riddance. And take eddie47d with you. Along with capn rich and/or crunch.

        • eddie47d

          I see “downer” has spoken his words of “wisdom”. Now if I had realized I was so popular with you duaner I would have jumped on this article sooner but thanks for the publicity. Either I must really have your attention or you are running scared if you feel the need to bring my name up.

      • heartlandhelen

        OH BROTHER!! Paul, JLC and the one starting with P—
        You want to talk about “Truth”? Let’s start with– well, I’m feeling charitable– YOU pick the democrat you hold to be the paragon of TRUTH and I’ll ‘cut him a new one’… as they say in the heartland …
        And, don’t worry… I can guarantee that Ron Paul won’t miss your vote… His appeal is with the educated. He understands…

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        I declare I haven’t heard too many times Bachmann or Santorum speeches. But a few times, when they were given microphone on radio talk shows they did sound kind hysteric and staunchly stubborn about their views or their declared actions on certain international issues. Are they fanatic enough? Well, that depends on how far they want to push their views or their suggested actions. I, for one, believe they ought to be first of all representatives of American people, not a foreign country’s interests. Do you think America needs to be continuously dragged into bottomless international conflicts when neither side wants to achieve mutually acceptable terms of peace or coexistence? And I don’t buy the high sounding “historic” validity or certification held by a certain former House Speaker. If Palestinian people were “invented” race, where have they ever lived?
        History is a science just like any other and cannot be adjusted to suit certain candidate’s need to corral certain social segments’ votes or sympathy.

      • kkflash

        Adios, moron.

      • WAELORDX

        THANKS FOR TAKING YOUR IGNORANCE ELSEWHERE. No other idiots need apply.

    • John

      We have a choice this comming election. Its either for Congressman Ron Paul or for David’s Rockefellers boys Barack Obama, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney,and Newit Gingrich. Ron Paul is my number one choice. He has the best deal in the country. The others belong to the “New World Order” crowd, big government, more regulations. and new and better wars!

      • Brady

        What proof is their that Paul is racist ? Their is none.You people out their against Paul are uneducated.Do not believe the manipulated news media.Do some research,go on the internet.Read the American Free Press and you’ll really find out what is happening,not only in the US,but throughout the world.The banksters,like the Rockefellers,Rothchilds,Warburgs,Schiff,Loeb etc.run and own the Federal Reserve and most of Washington,the news media,Hollywood.They are the movers and shakers of the world.If you don’t understand this and do some investigating,you will never vote correctly.

        Ron Paul is the only candidate that wants individual Liberty and to downsize our government.Everyone else wants to increase the size of gov’t.Most of what he says makes sense and when you listen to him,he teaches.Whether he is 76 or 96,he seems to have all cylinders working,further,he rides his bike 20 miles a day.Do you think ol’ Newt could do that ? He looks like he could drop dead just by tying his own shoelaces.

        • Average Joe

          Brady,
          Did you oops on this post? Seems to me that John’s post was Pro- Ron Paul…..not Anti- Ron Paul. There was no comment in the post about Ron Paul being a rasist that I was able to find…..

      • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

        May I add, more disastrous wars!

    • Motley

      I don’t know exactly what was in Dr.Paul’s newsletter of 20 years ago that is being touted as racist now but if it involved the “N” or “Spic” words that’s not any different than Jesse Jackson’s reference to the Jewish community as “Himietown” of some years ago. The words are unfair to any large group of people of any race, creed or culture. To call one individual a slur doesn’t make an entire group but is always perceived as such. The slurs are based on behaviours, actions and words associated with the slur and unfortunately there are individuals who meet the definitions. As far as I have read, Dr.Paul is a humanitarian, has come up with rational solutions for us all to get along in an often uncivilized world and is even being promoted overseas. He has my vote and I hope to God he wins. No one even comes close in my book.

    • heartlandhelen

      sc:
      You are indeed remarkable, sort of. your obsession with street-walkers and septic tanks makes your post difficult to read.. but further along, the problem is solved.. You don’t appear to know diddly-crap about what is going on in the world..
      Sweetie, Socialism/Communism/Totalitarian just plain doesn’t work..
      Why else are we having to bail out all those failed countries whose uneducated, give me something for nothing citizens have chosen?
      The right to vote doesn’t guarantee intelligence.
      I say give Ron Paul a chance to save America from the free-loaders… including street-walkers, whom I’d bet the farm are/were Obama supporters…

    • Jude

      One insignificant”critique” of Paul that amounts to a hill of beans is that using the term ‘black’ is condescending.
      Clearly, white or black journalists and Paul spoke of ‘whites’ in the same breath as ‘blacks.’ It was choosing a term of succinctness that mattered, not typing ‘Afro-American’ continually. God forbid that we have to type all of the places where whites possibly came from or that whites were androgynous to appeal to both sexes!].

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    These types of discouraging statements against Ron Paul from members of the GOP really show what an undiciplined rabble the Republicans really are.

    • s c

      Gillysrooms, thanks for making that point. That is, there are ‘Republicans,’ and there are conservatives. Some readers on this website refuse to make that distinction.
      Confusing ‘Republicans’ with conservatives is akin to mixing apples with oranges or REAL, Andy Jackson ‘Democrats’ (not the current crop of braindead trollops) with Lenin-style Bolsheviks.

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

        I’m learning but it can be confusing just as in Australia, our Liberal Party are the Conservatives who left our Current Labor Party who are socialist a whopping mega $billion surplus which our lABOR Party have been able to turn it into a $270Billion deficit and growing by the day……they blame it on the 2008 GFC just an excuse to spend money giving every low income earner about $1000 and free computers to every chikd in our schools to help stimulate the economy [Chinese economy] and of course have eternally happy potential voters at the next elections coming soon…. oh and I should also mention that many of the Greeks who left Australia for an easier life in Greece a few years ago are now making inquiries to come back…lol lazy lot I think…wonder why???

        • DaveH

          When they give those “free” computers, Gilly, they had to take the money from somebody else. And generally speaking those Somebody Elses would have spent that money much more productively than Government does.
          Read this, Gilly, to learn more:
          http://mises.org/daily/3637

          • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

            DaveH, I had almost forgotten about Ludwik Von Mises, for his teachings and those of Frederik Von Hayek, and Milton Freidman where some of the ones we promted in the 1970′s as part of our political movement in Australia. All their teachings were logical yet in Australia we had a very strong Tramways & Omnibus Union and very much part of out current Labor Party who members where all hardline unionist who saw that a real threat to their power of controlling the workers through compulsory unionism. They orchistrated the murder of a young fit committed political free enterprise activist by the name of PAUL KRUTULIS IN 1977 [Read page 207 TRADE UNION SECURITY LAW- A Study of Preference and Compulsory Unionism by Phillipa Weeks.] Australia’s first political murder still goes unnoticed and unclaimed by the union movement to this day. We were a small group then called crackpots and some of our members formed the original Centre for Independent Studies in Australia…now very popular with the political elite..but then considered a bit out with the fairies in those days.

        • jimmy the greek

          Australia shot it’s self in the head when they started eating non whites immigrate into the country ! Now look what you got !

        • Old Henry

          GILLYSROOMS:

          What do you folks down there think about Little Barry plunking down our military on your soil and your “guvment” allwing it?

          • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

            We dont mind OLD HENRY, the more the merrier because all your servicemen and women are going to contribute some of their salaries on our soil…so send us another million ….now lets say 200,000 troops might spend a very min $40 pw pocket money on food, hot dogs, nuts, entertainment x 52 weeks = $2080 x 200,000 troops = $416,000,000. But lets say they decide to spend ten times that in clubs and pubs and women of the night…we heading towards the $billions in expenditure to be circulating in our economy. Now dont forget that the Navy will need to buy Aussie foods and supplies from Australia most likely and that will add up to $billions of too. Then lets not forget that some of those tropops are going to meet our women and might marry and eventually settle in our loverly country and some will want to come down south to Melbourne and Sydney where we have a better life …so all in all we might encourage more whites to immigrate to Australia from America? So whose really benefitting ….we are, instead of places like Irak, Iran, etc and your troops wont have to worry about getting shot at while on their tour of duty…and who will be wondering where all the good times have gone because the wealthy oil Shieks dont seem to spend any of their money in their own countries do they? Unfortunately, OLD HENRY does not know much about economics …….

          • DaveH

            Old Henry simply asked an innocent question, Gilly, and like a typical Liberal you used it as an opportunity for a personal attack.
            By the way, Gilly, if indeed you knew anything at all about economics, you wouldn’t be a Liberal.

          • kkflash

            Gillys reply to Old Henry helps to make Ron Paul’s point about non-interventionist foreign policy. Stationing American troops at 900 military bases outside the US simply costs us money, and puts that money into foreign economies, rather than into our own. Why do we need to be the world police at our own expense?

        • JC

          GILLYSROOMS, all the Governments of the western nations are using the same formula to bring us into Globalism. Blame the left, blame the right, blame the last administration and move forward with destroying the economies and disarming the populace…relentlessly forward no matter how you vote.
          The majority of the people are still naieve enough to think that their vote for the left or the right will somehow make a difference.
          It won’t. We’re being played like cheap fiddles.

          What all the western nations need is a major fumigation of the the various houses of Government that starts with the abolition of Central Bankers. Cut off their “out of thin air” allowance for good.

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          Gentleman from Australia, I cannot fathom how you connect Australian Government’s wasteful spending with stimulating China’s economy.
          If I am not mistaken, in the last two years twice Australian Government shunned Chinese investments in billions for a JOINT venture in the mining in Australia. But, never mind, Australia just opened a window to draw American military “dollars”.

          • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

            Tom the observer, might not be aware that Australia does not manufactuer Computers or most electrical goods…so I used China as an example because computer are mainly made in Thailand I have been advised but they use Chinese Samsung engineered products. So when any govt Australia or the USA stimulate our economies or your housing market to realise who gets the greater benefit …you need only look up ALIBABA to see how many Styles of American Timber Homes are manufactured in CHINA ready for export to your USA.

            Now as far as permitting Chinese investments in Australia…we do permit and in fact they have invested $billions in our coal, iron ore and other precious metals but I’m not sure why RIO TINTO was not permitted to be sold to the Chinese but it might have had something to do with strategic security matters perhaps…RIO TINTO has mining operation in the USA too. I’m not against the Chinese Government investing in Australia, but sometimes government have other reasons why they wont let other governments take over corporations.

            Maybe the government could see its ability to tax profits from mining dwindle as many foreign governments will make sure they wont need to pay any taxes because they lower the prices they purchase the minerals to cover costs and transfer the profits into their own countries. This has led our government to look at creating a SUPER MINING PROFIT RENT TAX or a TONNAGE TAX which affects the states who already have a mining tax levy and also affects the smaller miners too who are struggling to get started. Politics is complicated.

      • Michael

        Andy’s signature is still inside at the bottom of Lookout Mountain.
        Dr. Ron Paul is leading and gaining momentum because he is our people’s choice. He wants us to follow our Constitution.

      • Bernadine

        Yes ron paul con win. But he is a libitarion not a republican.we do not have any one runing that would change us back to the constitution and put GOD BACK AHEAD OF THIS COUNTRY AS OUR FOREFATHERS INTENDED.RON
        PAUL IS GETTING SENILE AND IT SHOWS IS THAT WHAT THIS COUNTRY REALLY NEEDS? WE ALREADY HAD A PRESIDENT WITH EARLY STAGE OF ALSIMERS.DO WE NEED ONE NOW????? ROMNEY, PERRY,ARE FOR THE HIGHWAY FROM TEXAS TO CANADA. THEY SAY NO EXITS JUST SERVICE PLAZAS. BUT ROADS COME INTO THE SERVICE PLAZAS SO WORKERS WHO WORK THERE.AND ANYONE CAN USE THEM.
        SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW??? THIS IS ANOTHER ELECTION FRAUD.NO ONE ALOWED TO RUN AGAINT A PRESIDENT THAT IS NOT FROM THIS COUNTRY.AND PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO TELL ME HE IS GOD THAT HE THINKS HE IS. BUT BECAUSE OF HIS RACE EVERY ONE IS AFRAID TO ADMIT IT. THOSE THAT SCREAM RACISM ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WANT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING AND NOT HAVE TO WORK TO GAIN IT. THAT IS WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR THE LAST FOURTY YEARS. GOD BLESS

        • Sirian

          Bernadine,
          You are the first in a very long time that I have read that brings up the subject of the “Super Highway”. Isn’t it unfortunate that so many either scoff at what it truly is and don’t understand the evidence that stands boldly in the public forum or do they simply refuse to research this area since scoffing is extremely easier to do? One of these days they will see what their shear foolishness has allowed.

          • Susie4Liberty

            Our Texas Border is wide-open to Mexican truckers…and the “don’t believe your lyin’ eyes Superhighways” which We Texans fought so hard with guv perr are not being finished fast enough. (So they complain to their Mexican Prez…)

            NAFTA – introduced by george the one, pushed thru by Clinton AND NEWTON, Treaty signed by geo the two-th in Waco – 2007, as I recall. So now, we’re like the EU…the North American Union…our once Sovereign Country and Canada and Mexico.

            The New World Order isn’t COMING…it’s HERE.
            And you think NEWTON OR ROMNEY OR PERRY are committed to getting us OUT of it?!

            My Conscience demands that I cast my vote for Ron Paul. Won’t be ‘easy’ to extricate us from this nightmare of GOVT OWNERSHIP – but he’s the only Candidate who is committed to THE PEOPLE, rather than the Global Elite.

        • DaveH

          Funny you should say that, Bernadine. Because that senile old man runs intellectual circles around his competition. If you’d do some studying outside the MSM Propaganda circle, you would know that is true. In fact, all you need do is listen to the debates, those where Paul actually got more than 2 minutes of face time, and do a little thinking to see that Paul has a much better grasp of reality than any of his opponents. Oh, for sure, the other candidates probably do know better, but they aren’t about to admit to the American people that their agenda is one of promoting the prosperity of their Big Government Gang over what’s really best for the Rest of US.
          After all, the natural inclination of Leaders is to grow their power at the detriment of our Freedom. Jefferson warned us of that reality 200 years ago. We didn’t listen.

        • http://yahoo l ducker

          in mexico and central america the freeways are called corridors. in california all the freeways after leaving the cities have signs saying this is a safety corridor. i started noticing these signs being put up a couple of years ago. if there isn’t going to be a freeway system from mexico across the usa then why the name change

        • Greatscott

          There would be NO Libertarian Party if the Republorats had not gone RINO. Republicans used to adhere to the Libertarian platform until it was hijacked by the Liberals.

          • Paradigmshift

            Amen!!

        • Gman

          Bernadine: You are just another contemporary naysayer that kicks the can sown the street. If not for those in power constantly looking to make money off the backs of the working class in our great nation, and then abandoning us when it served them well to do so, we would not be in this mess. Everyone always blames the one who has the dung heaped upon him, but not the heapers. To think that you can’ see the forest from the trees is sad. Nobody can undo years of political treachery and governmental malfeasance in such a short time-frame. And it s=must be very easy to overlook the ineptitude of past leaders of our country while dumping on our current President. After all, this is the american way; kick the can sown the road. Poor Barry; if only he was from or had family origins in South Africa, or Germany, or Italy, or Poland. I guess his climb to the Presidential palace would be OK.

        • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

          Maybe Ron Paul is a little better in taking care of himself!? I don’t think you implied Ronald Reagan was a sufferer of Alzheimer’s disease while in office!? He did make one mistake, in my humble opinion, towards the end of his office, granting Amnesty to 3(?) million illegals. Look what that got us to today! But I also learned that his plan was not faithfully executed.
          Personally, age should not be a determining factor at such an important
          juncture of time. Principle, wisdom, honesty and total dedication to the duties to save the Country is! Flank him with an energetic, similarly principled and “executorial” VP and that will do the job and free you from worries about AGE!

          • Mark in LA

            One mistake – you must have been asleep. He is responsible for free trade, guest workers, the neocons, massive deficits, and the S&L fiasco – the trial run of the housing bubble bailout.

      • jimmy the greek

        In the south in the mid sixties it was the Republicans that were the bleeding hart liberals so you can’t go by party . The new world order as its called is run by zionist and they have the fundamentalist christians ( the ones i call the crazy christians ) as lap dogs for israel . The reason they don’t want Ron Paul is he is not in the pocket of the zionist and the useful idiots that call them self’s conservatives . israel would nuke America in a New York Minute when we are no longer useful to them and there plans for there leading the world .

        • Paradigmshift

          You can read about them here: Revelation 2:9 and here: Revelation 3:9

        • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

          I have suggested that the Germans should stop trying to save the Greek economy and let it just go bankrupt or let it try to find its own solution to its debt and economic problems. What is your opinion?

          • jimmy the greek

            Greece never should have joined the EU and never should have used the euro , However the us military is filled with blacks and mexicans that is what your woman well be hooking up with .

          • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

            Jimmy, we have plenty of our own blacks up north and a dont see any white women hooking up with them…but maybe the latinos might have a chance…. Why are your blacks and mexicans doing all the risky jobs for you lazy whites in America these days? Is it because they want a job but the young whites like living on Social Security and playing X-Box games is safer? The fall of the American empire has started perhaps?

      • jimmy the greek

        Lenin was a jew and so were most of the bolsheviks, Khazar Jews . You don’t have to believe me look it up your self . The father of communism Karl Marx , also A jew .

        • unrealistic

          Yea uh the Jews are the tribe of (Judah) which is only one of twelve tribes of Israel. There are only two tribes currently in the country of Israel the other ten escaped 400 years BC from the Syrians north over the caucasius mountains (its why we are called caucasions) and settled in Europe and eventually here in America so we have a vested interest in the country of Israel it is our land and they are our brothers. If you are full blood Greek I understand this would not have any meaning to you.

          • jimmy the greek

            Europe is of Aryan blood As are the Persians or Iranian’s as they are called today . So i have no blood with the devil’s that came from the East tru Poland .

          • Gman

            It is so refreshing to have someone that knows history to speak on it. As I have said before, The reason why we as a nation are going through the trials and tribs’ is our lack of respect for the Father’s covenant with the tribes. I am a Gentile, but still covered by the Blood. But the shame is that those first blessed have allowed the Adversary to infect them with a lack of understanding of the Covenant and it’s provisions for continuation of the blessings bestowed upon our people and the land. You have in my humble estimation, hit the nail on the head. At least to some degree.

          • ohoh

            Actually, great portions of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi living in the cities of the southern Kingdom of Israel surrounding Jerusalem were taken captive by the Assyrians and scattered along with the Ten Tribes from the Northern Kingdom. The remnants of Judah, Benjamin and Levi in Jerusalem were later taken captive by Babylon. Of the Israelites who returned to Judea from Babylon, some settled in the south with a new religion based on the Babylonian Talmud and, mingling with the non-Israelite population in the area, became known as “Jews.” Others Israelites settled in the north (Galilee), the home of Jesus, an Israelite from the tribe of Judah, and all of His disciples, except Judas, who was a Jew from the south. These Israelites in the north took a different course, which ultimately led to Christ’s ministry and His condemnation of the Jewish establishment in the south, including the Traditions of the Elders (the Talmudic detour from the true teachings of the Hebrew prophets). Most of the Jewish immigrants from Poland, Germany and other European ghettos (90% of the people we call Jews in the West today) were not from any of the twelve tribes. They were from the asiatic Khazarian Kingdom (modern Russian Jews) and didn’t convert to Jewish Talmudism for more than a thousand years after the Babylonian captivity. These converted Jews were not the children of Abraham, they adopted the traditions condemned by Christ and they were never our cousins. The philosophical mischief that has come from this group, including the likes of Lenin and Marx, is legend. The modern political state of Israel is generally, mistakenly portrayed as the Biblical Nation of Israel. As Americans, we have paid dearly for this errant belief. The Christian ministers who perpetuate this fantasy have truly led their sheep astray.

        • J T G FAN

          Jimmy The Greek, whether you are truly a Greek,or not, I LOVE ya!
          Don’t let the Leftards bother you.They SUCK!
          J T G FAN

          • jimmy the greek

            100% Greek born in New Jersey mother was first of the family born in America my father was born in Greece on the island of Syros . I spoke no English until i went to public school .

          • jimmy the greek

            however i have been living in east Texas since 1976.

          • Karolyn

            Where in Jersey, jimmy? I was born and raised in Somerset County and lived in Jersey until almost 7 years ago.

          • jimmy the greek

            Perth Amboy in the 50′s early 60′s Newark late 60′s early 70,s Elizabeth , Mid 70s Boston Mass , 1976 Houston TX and still living just north of Houston . I used to hang out at the White Castle in Elizabeth Use to drag race on the road in port Newark that sea land was on .

    • Lost in Paradise

      Where are you really from? People are not the stupid in Australia. It shows that Americans in general are undiciplined Rabble from LA LA LAND. My fellow American would rather vote for the devil if he would run, than someone that really cared about them.
      That is why we ge people like Obama,Biden, and the Clintons. That is because most are truly so stupid, they cannot tell the wolf from the little wiener dog licking their hand.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      All of you are forgetting the Real Truth – that is Ron Paul will neverbe nominated or Elected President of the USA. He is a whack job & the American voters understand that no matter what the people of Iowa feel. I understand that all Paul followers are pumped up but like myself ( Conservative Republican) I am a realist Paul will never be POTUS. His son is a nitwit also.

      • maury

        I would invite you to log on to “Abolish the Federal Reserve system of 1913″. Read what Ron Paul really stands for. Read how the American people have been ripped off, and what he proposes to do about it. He, unlike all of the rest of the candidates, has made an intensive study of why we are in such economic troubles. Read the real truth about why we went to war in Iraq, and the folly of attacking Iran. If anyone else is elected as President, I predict that we will be involved in another Useless, un-winable war within a year after November 8. We’re in debt over $15 trillion, and growing, right now. Where do you propose we get the money to fight another World War III? Already everything you could buy for a dollar ten years ago, it takes $40 to buy now.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          For those of us who are old enough to remember – he is a cross between – Its Howdy Doody Time – Alfred E. Newman & which way did he go – which way did he go – move on moron & vote for someone who can win the WH

          • Anthony

            Capt Rich G you are one stupid MORON!!

            Endless wars, Endless money printing = worthless money!

            There is not a dimes difference between any of the other candidates except Ron Paul!

            But you’re to STUPID to see it!

          • Don the Canuck

            It is amazing how illiterate people can continue to post comments that have little or no value other than to reflect their inability to actually read and research the candidates. Capt Rich here is a prime example of great many American voters who refuse to spend the necessary time to actually read books that the candidates write, or read their plans, if avaiable, that are usually quite detailed. Anyone who states that RP is a kook or a whack job is simply in denial or has chosen to remain ignorant. It is these people who are the most dangerous to your country, not the politicians. Politicians can be voted out….ignorance and stupidity can only be cast aside if someone at some point encourages these people to educate themselves. Lucky for the U.S., the younger generation is now getting involved and can begin to see the light, much in contrast to intellectually deficient neanderthals like Capt. Rich.

            From Canada, all the best to our U.S. friends. May you choose your next leader with care and with the information necessary to make that informed decision.

          • DaveH

            Thank you Don.

          • JC

            Thanks Don, and congratulations to Canada for getting rid of the long gun registry. Definately a step in the right direction. ;)

          • Paradigmshift

            How does that saying go? First they ignore him, then they get mad at him , then they try to smear him, and then he wins!

          • kkflash

            As I said before, ANY candidate can beat the socialist Obama, now that his inept leadership has been revealed by his inability to accomplish anything useful while in office (unless you count US bankruptcy as an accomplishment.) You profess to be a conservative Republican, but you’re too chicken to walk the walk.

        • Mark Are

          Ron Paul represents the 99% (though many don’t realize it). He represents an IDEA. He represents FREEDOM, LIBERTY, SELF RELIANCE, RESPONSIBILITY. The other candidates, including the current usurper in Chief, represent the 1%. Since there are many more of us, WE can rally around Ron Paul, and change the face of the world. Ron Paul said, “I am not interested in winning to be President. I am interested in winning to change history.” When he wins, history will show that the 1% are not the rulers but rather WE THE PEOPLE who the Constitution was written to be the guide of government for, are the rulers. The question…do we continue down the road to slavery? Or do we allow a true abolitionist to free us all from the chains of bondage that the Federal Reserve and world banksters have placed around the necks of every man, woman and child on this PLANET? THAT, my friends is the real crux of the matter. ARE WE GOING TO BE SLAVES for the 1% or are we going to have a planet of FREEDOM for the 99%. YOU CAN DECIDE, and say screw what “they” want! . RON PAUL 2012, 2016 RAND PAUL 2020, 2024!

          • http://ObserverfromPhoenix Tom the Observer

            Are you proposing or fantasizing amendments? Nothing entirely out of the question, though. Like they say, if not broken, don’t fix it! A GOOD PRESIDENT doesn’t come easy! Continuity and Stability are usually the foundation for a good TRADITION! We see that in American football.

        • Old Henry

          And the sad part Anthonly is that Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.

          • JeffH

            OH, just ask eddie or Ron White… :)

          • eddie47d

            Then there are continual (offensive comment removed)

          • JeffH

            eddie, you have re-defined the meaning of “brilliant” with your potty thoughts.

            You forever remind US that “Stupid Is Forever” and there is no cure.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7QMo5tCA8c

          • JeffH

            eddie47d says:

            December 26, 2011 at 3:02 pm

            Then there are continual azzh*les like Jeff,just ask him! Are you related to the toilet paper or the turd Jeff?
            __________________________________________________

            Neither one, but I do see the similarities between yourself and toilet paper…yer both always wipin’ up the rear… :)

      • Charles

        Capt Rich G:

        No reasons, no facts, just the simpleminded repetition of what you have received from your masters while you lick their hands and appear to be tough.

        Read the article, troll.

      • M Yass

        You just made up that crap comment. There is nothing Ron Paul has done to prove your malicious and defamatory claim. You could have at least said “I don’t like Ron Paul because he wants a balanced budget.” Then we’d all know exactly why you hate a candidate that isn’t some New World Order con-man.

      • DaveH

        You are NOT a Conservative, Capt Rich. You are a Neo-Conservative. True Conservatives know that the message Ron Paul delivers is closer to that of this country’s Founders than any of the other Socialist, Militarist Candidates that the Republican Party has put up. Of course, I’m excepting Gary Johnson, who the Propaganda Media has been effective at silencing.
        The Republican Party has been Mercantile (think Crony Capitalism) since its inception. We fought a revolution to rid us of the Mercantilist tendancies of Great Britain. And the Republican Party brought it back.

      • Old Henry

        Our Constitution is a “Whack Job” Capt?

        So sorry to hear you think so.

      • jimmy

        capt rich voting for the lesser of 2 evils is why we are
        in the mess we are in.an old saying the definition of insanity
        is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different
        results.A big monster has been unleashed and it will devour
        your savings your retirement and your freedom and so what if you have silver stashed away and so what if you have a weapon for protection.
        it will not matter even if you live in a cave.there is no safe place without individual rights god given rights.he stated if any nation
        repent from their wicked ways i will see and heal there land..jimmy

    • Angela

      Mr. Livingston article against Ron Paul is 100% accurate! If you have listened to the debates; everything Livingston wrote about is exactly Paul’s views. He is terrifying! You think the U.S. is in trouble now? A Ron Paul would make us 100x’s worse! He is a liberal that does not believe in the COnstitution except when it fits his wishes. Who does that sound like? Another Obama! We as Republicans DO have to have the candidate that CAN beat Obama! That is definitely NOT isolationist, racist RON PAUL! I hope people are smarter in this election!!!!!

      • libertytrain

        Angela – I think you misread something – Mr. Livingston is not against Ron Paul —-

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Angela,

        What is truly “terrifying” is the thought that you are a registered voter.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Mark Are

          DITTO! Maybe we need an IQ test for voting rights. Anyone with less than 50, like Angela won’t be able to pollute the system.

        • eve4drpaul

          AMEN!
          Unfortunately, there are a lot of stupid, brainwashed imbeciles in this country and it so happens that the DNC and the GOP like it like that.
          Poor Angela doesn’t even realize that she is nothing more than a sheep being led to slaughter by her masters.

          Fortunately, on the other hand, there are a lot of people who are actually waking up to the farce of the left/right paradigm and the youth are really a big part of this awakening. That gives me hope.

          As for the voting zombies like Angela- makes me believe there should be a litmus test prior to voting.

          • ohoh

            Perhaps, for their time, the Founders weren’t wrong about franchise (and possibly citizenship) requirements after all. Maybe we have drifted too far, losing our culture, forfeiting our birthright and denying our children their inheritance, all for lesser agendas.

        • jimmy the greek

          She must have went to public school !

          • JeffH

            She “must have went”(?) to public school !

        • heartlandhelen

          Bob Livingston: THE Bob Livingston?
          You hit the nail dead center!! I commented earler about the intelligence of ‘sc’ — it wasn’t allowed; my fault, I suggested she didn’t know diddly-crap about what’s going on in the world…
          Well, censorship be damned… She doesn’t!! h

          • libertytrain

            if it wasn’t allowed – it means the automatic filters had stopped it for either “foul” language or multiple links. We’ve all had that issue along the way – more the multiple link….rather than foul language.

      • Dr Wood

        You are a truly scary Neocon paid misguided Bitch

      • MNIce

        Angela, if you’re going to say, “EEK!” you should at least tell us whether we have to look for a spider or a mouse! There is not one word of explanation in your comment about why Ron Paul is a bad man to have as President. Until you can explain why he scares you, nobody has any good reason to accept your fear-mongering.

      • kkflash

        You are absolutely insane.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      They are Realists – nitwit & understand that we can’t have 4 more years of obama – the country would not survive. By voting for Paul you would elect obama – it is you morons – the Kool Aid drinking half wits that need to get your stuff together and wake up

      • DaveH

        As with the other Liberals (yes I’m calling you Liberal, Rich), Capt Rich chooses to manipulate us with Personal Attacks instead of just presenting the facts.
        Liberals are those who think Big Government is the solution. Both Major Parties have Liberals in them.
        Big Government is the Problem, NOT the Solution.

        • Dave

          NeoCON = Tory (Boot licking brain dead sycphants to the elite establishment as in Revolutionary War days)

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          you can call me whatever you like – the difference is I am going to vote for ABO(anyone but obama) I really don’t have to worry about voting for Paul because he will never be nominated – the reason being there are only a small # of a-holes out there who are his supporters — mostly mentally challenged individuals like yourself ( a real liberal) have another sip of Kool Aid & we will have another Jonetown here is the USA – have a great day a-hole

          • JeffH

            If the shoe fits, wear it…

          • kkflash

            Capt Rich, you’re not only drinking the “he’s unelectable” Kool-Aid handed to you by the liberal media, you’re mixing another batch and handing out glasses. If you won’t vote for a man with constitutional principles, at least have the balls to admit you’re not true conservative.

      • Mark Are

        Capt…is that like POLICE Captain? Or MILITARY Captain? I’ve got you figured out…PSYCHOPATH!

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          (offensive comment removed)

        • jimmy the greek

          I would say police , they like things like they are now .

      • JC

        Capt Rich G says:
        December 26, 2011 at 8:57 am
        They are Realists – nitwit & understand that we can’t have 4 more years of obama – the country would not survive.
        ______________________________________________________________

        And how much longer do you think we’ll “survive” with Neo-Cons like Gingrich or Romney at the helm?
        They’re bought and paid for Globalists as much as Obama…cut from the same cloth.

      • Charlotte Juett

        “They” said the same thing about Ronald Reagan when he was running. Reagan admired and supported Ron Paul’s policies and Ron Paul supported Reagan until Reagan went against his principles and bowed to the powers that be in D.C.
        Ron Paul will win against Obama in 2012 and if we manage to elect enough “TRUE” conservatives to Congress, we can turn this country around and retake from the clutches of the NWO elites.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          Keep on smoking & everything will be better sooner or later – maybe you ought to change to acid – that way everything will be pretty also

      • Mike

        Capt Rich G: Please, for your own self-respect, just shut up. Let people that actually know what they are talking about speak.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          As soon as I read something that shows me anyone here knows what they are talking about – so far that ain’t happening

          • JeffH

            Then quit reading your own comments.

          • JC

            Jeff, he’s just like a pouty kid sitting in the corner complaining about “everything” until he gets his own way…Capt. Rich is a “snitty” in action. LOL

          • JeffH

            JC, yer killin’ me and :)! I just learned a new word. Sounds like a 6 year old…uh huh!

          • JC

            Good, I’m glad you’re smiling. Hope you had a good Christmas.

          • JeffH

            JC, that I did thanks…and may we all have a rewarding and prosperous New Year

          • JC

            Amen that. :)

  • cawmun cents

    The actual reason to vote for Dr.Paul,is that mainstreamers hate him.
    Just goes to show you that he is the better candidate.
    If Rush Limbaugh endorses the guy(and obviously,thank God he will not),you will get what you play for.
    Republicans hate Dr.Paul because he doesnt goose step into their idealism,or fit in their box of conceptual reality.
    This is a good thing for Dr.Paul.
    Even if he is not elected to office,at least there was an alternative to the same old trash that DC has been spreading on our bread.
    Conventionally Ron just doesnt fit in their mold.Hurray for him!
    Just when you think there is no hope,a guy comes along that is different.Different being a good thing.Trouble is that folks are used to getting their politics luke warm.New and improved is a label that is pasted all over the current batch of contenders.
    But it is all lip service.
    There is only one new offering there,and they dont understand why he just doesnt fit in their mold.
    They even refuse to ask him about aditing the Federal Reserve,on Fox News.That should show you right there,that the establishment lackeys disapprove of Dr. Paul’s ideology.Instead they went with the same old tired questions.I patently disagree with Dr. Pauls foreign policy regarding Iran.But hey,almost any candidate has a particular thing which I disagree with.Some more than often enough,with nearly everything they bring to the table.
    When the republicans wrote Omamba his last(was it the last?hard tellin’not knowin’)trillion dollar check,for which the funds were not yet appropriated,I loudly stated that I would never vote for one of their ilk again.
    Dr.Paul is not of their ilk.I will vote for him,based on that principle alone.America needs to show that we wont fall for the status quo,every time.New plans and ideas are not really arguable at this juncture in time.Just plain old necessary.
    -CC.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      What really scares me is that Paul Kool Aid drinkers might be stupid enough to get obama re-elected because of his whacko beliefs. His foreign policies would get us nuked by Iran. He needs to go away back to Texas & write a book – complain about why he nev er won the nomination and fade into oblivion – So Mote It Be

      • Charles

        Hey, troll!

        Refute the article. If you can.

      • M Yass

        Hey Capt Troll, Ron Paul won practically everything and is still winning. Stop your whining and go troll somewhere else.

      • DaveH

        What scares me, Capt Rich, is that there are so many people like yourself who think that manipulative name-calling is a valid substitute for reasoned facts.

      • GrayStroke

        The Travelociti gnose/ er ah trolls rarely qualify the pejoratives, they merely like to copy and paste multi-sill-bill words hoping they will stick…. If Ron Paul ever makes it as far as the nomination he may get the same illness Kennedy and Reagan received for NOT following the NWO agenda…folks this is a Spiritual battle and it cannot be won by conservative battle of wits alone or adding more vitriol …. for those in the TEA Party you have been co-opted also … The Marxist have done to both parties what they have done in Hollywood and in academia and the media like a cancer they have just about metastasized there is on time for shallow bickering but for heavy prayer but I’m sad to perceive that since we have a 50 million baby holocaust in our own country it’s hard to imagine God will show us much more mercy ….

      • Mark Are

        Funny, I can only remember reading about one country that ever nuked anyone Capt. A couple of cities for of civilians as my history lesson taught. What country was that? Oh, and let’s say that Iran DOES get a nuke, and let’s say they put it on a rowboat and get it here…NOW WHAT?

      • eve4drpaul

        Only scared little pantywaist MSM-loving puppets are afraid of Iran getting a nuke. That would mean you, Capt. Chickenlittle.
        Your country motto should say “Land of the slaves, Home of the cowards”.

      • jimmy the greek

        captain rich g You must be one of them there zionist or one of there boot lickers !

      • JC

        Capt Rich G says:
        December 26, 2011 at 8:04 am
        What really scares me is that Paul Kool Aid drinkers might be stupid enough to get obama re-elected because of his whacko beliefs.
        _____________________________________________________________

        Yap yap yap!
        Just a bunch of rabid name calling…right out of the Liberal playbook.

      • Brady

        People,lets not waste our time in debating the uneducated red neck of Capt.rich- he is a plant and doesn’t deserve an intellectual response

      • kkflash

        If you think Iran has any chance whatsoever of dropping a nuke on American soil, then you are the whacko. Ron Paul would strengthen US defenses, not weaken them, by spending our military budget where it belongs, on American soil. Better defense at lower cost is what Ron Paul’s foreign policy is about.

        • JC

          Absolutely Right On!

    • Angela

      Then you might as well support obummer another 4 years! There will be NO DIFFERENCE! They are both racist and do not love America!

      • DaveH

        If you did some studying, Angela, you would know the real racists are those who have subjected so many blacks to begging at the table for scraps. How? Several ways, but two prominent ways are Welfare and the Drug Wars. You can not instill prosperity in a people by giving them money that is taken from others. Like with any child, the result of that spoiling is detrimental to the Spoiled.
        Here’s how the Drug Wars are destroying Black prosperity:
        http://academic.udayton.edu/race/03justice/crime09.htm

      • Mark Are

        What was wrong with Ron Paul when he voted for Martin Luther King day? Oh, I know he is a white guy who is racist towards white folks. That’s it.

      • Karolyn

        Where on earth are you getting your information? From your husband?

        • jimmy the greek

          Don’t be blaming a man for her stupidity It had to be passed on to her from her mothers side .

      • JC

        Angela says:
        December 26, 2011 at 8:45 am
        Then you might as well support obummer another 4 years! There will be NO DIFFERENCE! They are both racist and do not love America!
        ______________________________________________________________

        Back that up.
        Show me proof Ron Paul is a racist.

        • JC

          Angela says: ***************Crickets**************

  • Tom Justin

    Even if Ron Paul wins Iowa, like Huckabee did, it would have little or no meaning.

    The whole method of voting in this primary is so unlike the rest of the country that it has no meaning. Lots of money and great organizational skills may win the state but not the country.

    Mr. Paul is not well accepted by the mainstream of this country, not just the GOP. He had enough great ideas about small government, which is attractive, but to allow Iran to have the bomb? To vacate our friends in Israel? To allow the Middle East be completely taken over and even parts of it destroyed by mullahs and extremists is unfathomable. Because the stronger they get the more they will come after the West.

    He also has given unsatisfactory answers about his newsletters, even though they appeared years ago.

    This country and the GOP cant take a chance on seeing the reelection of Obama. The GOP needs a strong candidate and one who can beat Obama.

    Maybe one of those in the running can still step up to the plate and grow into that role.

    There may be plenty of room in the Neville Chamberlon Fan Club, but no room for such a politician to come to be the leader of a free world country in today’s climate.

    • Lost in Paradise

      I could not disagree with you more, and you and others like you are what is being disgust here. You are part of the problem. You would rather the wolf runs with your little children then the friendly little wiener dog. Well good luck foolish person, because one day really soon, you will understand what total control truly means. It is coming to a neihbor hood near you soon. Probably already there, you just do not have the ability to recognize it.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        Another turn the other cheek & it will be alright Paul whacker – Paul is nuts get over it – move on – he stands NO chance of ever being elected – if he keeps it up he will do this election what Huckabee did to Romney in the last – thats why we have the smoke in the WH now – we don’t need him for another 4 yrs because of this whack job – get over it and vote for someone who will win against obama

        • Karolyn

          As I already posted, I am a registered Dem who will vote for Ron Paul in the SC Repub primary and vote for him for Pres. if he is nominated. However, should Obama run against Rommney or Gigrich, I will have to vote for Obama. And you better believe there are many people like me.

          • Angela

            So, what you are saying is that you want a President that HATES America, is muslim, is UNAMERICAN, has disastrous policies that have destroyed AMerica and HATES the COnstitution and leaves GOD out of everything. You need to be educated in Patriotism. You might as well go live where CHavez is because obummer is another socialists cahvez.I know you have got to be smarter than to vote this inept-so-called leader back for 4 years!

          • http://verizon.net budman

            Karolyn: What then have you accomplished then if you vote for Obama if Paul doesn’t win the nomination?

            I fear for this country because there are people like you who would insure the reelection of the worst president this country ever had just because your choice didn’t win the nomination. but, don’t worry, Paul will abandon the Republican Party and run as an Independent soon and insure Obama’s reelection. Stay turned for the turncoats announcement. Happy now?

          • FreeHumanity

            Karolyn, Hello there. Guess we are in the same boat. Trying to let the RINOs know that Paul has a ton of people like us that we will vote (again) for Obama unless RON PAUL is the GOP candidate.

          • Karolyn

            Angela & Budman – I cannot in good conscience vote for Rommney, Gingrich or Bachmann. At least I know who Obama is. Although I do not support everything he does, I CANNOT support those other Bilderbergers. It doesn’t matter anyway. They are ALL bought and paid for, other than Dr. Paul; so it really makes no difference.

          • eve4drpaul

            I am a member of my county GOP and a precinct chair. Though I would never vote for Obama, should Mitt or Gingrich be the nominee- there’s no way in Hades I would vote for them.
            I’ll have to write in Ron Paul.

            Bottom line, if the GOP does NOT nominate Paul, they lose and we have another 4 years of this administration. THAT is reality. And it won’t be Ron Paul or his supporters fault, it will be the ignorant people’s of the GOP itself- a repeat of giving us McCain.

          • Mike

            Then I can rest assured that my vote will at least cancel yours out. I registered republican simply so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. If he does not make the ticket to challenge Obama, I will vote for whomever is running against Obama. Obama has proven, time and again, that he is a liar. He has broken EVERY campaign promise that he made, while his wife spends billions of tax dollars for her little vacations. Obama is the worst mistake this country has EVER made. Paul would be the ideal candidate. Let the mullahs gain their power in the Middle East. We can already see revolutions have taken place against theocratic control. They are happening now. We have NO BUSINESS being occupiers in foreign lands. Let Iran get the bomb. If they dare set one of in America, we will have the world’s biggest sheet of glass where Iran used to stand. Stop letting your cowardice and fear of islam lead you, and vote for the only man that believes we should protect ourselves. Israel has proven, dozens of times, that with American weapons and maoney, she can take on the whole Middle East and win. They do not need us to babysit them.
            Ron Paul 2012.

          • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

            I agree with you Karolyn, it’s either Ron Paul or Obama if I could vote. My grandfather was an American citizen…can I vote please?

        • Charles

          The reason Obama is in the WH now, is because of braindead followers like you – you put up McCain.

          Now we could get Romney this time, thanks to twits like you. But since there is no functional difference between Romney and Obama, why are you complaining about Obama? THERE’S NO DIFFERENCE.

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            (offensive comment removed)

          • Dorinda sears

            An alert mind would face the simple fact that Ron Paul’s nomination will insure an Obama win.

        • JC

          Angela says:
          December 26, 2011 at 8:45 am
          Then you might as well support obummer another 4 years! There will be NO DIFFERENCE! They are both racist and do not love America!
          _____________________________________________________________

          And Capt. Rich shows his true colors as a racist and a Neo-Con.
          Get lost anti-American troll.

          • JC

            Ooops, referred to the wrong Neo-Con there…

      • argoman

        The Sheepdogs are sleeping and the Wolves are mingling with the flock. Ron Paul will wake-up the Sheepdogs! I think the wiener dog has already been ate by the Wolves. After the fleecing by Obama, all the sheep should be able to see very well, but looks like many are still blind! B-a-a-ad B-a-a-a-m-ma-a! B-a-a-ad!

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Lost, how the heck are you? You asked: “You would rather the wolf runs with your little children then the friendly little wiener dog.”

        My choice would be the wolf. They are recognized as a strong pack member. Gently teach them that humans are always alpha and that they are a member of the family (pack) there is no critter better suited for defense.

        A wolf is not for everyone but for those who are loving, patient, and understanding they can be incredibly rewarding.

        Rob

    • Karolyn

      Did you not read Bob’s blog? Doesn’t it make sense? There are countries worse than Iran that have “the bomb” and have had it for a long time. What difference does it make if Iran has one? I don’t think any country is stupid enough to use it, because it would mean the end for everyone. You would prefer losing more American lives? Haven’t we lost enough – for NOTHING? As far as Israel goes, they are fine taking care of themselves. What have they ever done for us? They’re just another drag on our budget, along with all the other countries, friend and foe, that we support.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        Hey NITWIT – does the word Martyr mean anything to you stupid – they think nothing of lighting up themselves or their kids moron. They see 72 virgins if they blow up the world – by the way there is NO country worse than Iran but being uninformed like yourself you would not realize that.

        • Karolyn

          Wow! First attack of the day by a conservative. We are all adults here and don’t need to call people schoolyard names. It just goes to show your mentality – can’t get a point across without getting personal. In the first place, those who would have the power to set off a nuke are not those they send out to blow themselves up. Most people really don’t want to die, although there’s nothing wrong with it – just another part of life. Contrary to what you might think, they are not all stupid. Having nuclear capabilities is more of a macho-man thing. “Hey, look at me! I’m in with the big guys now!” Why hasn’t North Korea nuked South Korea? They would be killing themselves. Obviously, you are one of those people who believes in perpetual war and wasting human lives for NOTHING!

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            I just used to think you were stupid – now I know it to be a fact – you are a true liberal nitwit – North Korea & South Korea are not Muslim countries moron – by dying they don’t see 72 virgins at the end. therefore they are not of the martyr mindset – If you can’t see what Soros/Obama policies are doing to this country then you should try strapping on a bomb & lighting it off – that way there would be one less vote for Obama/Paul or Paul/Obama – whatever just go away (schoolyard name)

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn did not say North and South Korea were Muslim – and all martyrs are not Muslim as you appear to be deducing.

          • The old Curmudgeon

            If you kids do not stop fighting and begin to play nice… like grownups are sposed ta… America is finished. So much hate because someone DARES to not agree with your point of view.
            YOU are what is wrong with America!!!! Can you not see that?
            Of all of the candidates in all parties running this cycle… PAUL is the only one with a snow balls chance in Tampa of actually making things better for average Americans. What is wrong with every one of the “other” candidates is that they are identical to each other. EVERY ONE of them represents business as usual. BTW Kidz, Business as usual is how America came to the dangerous and sorry condition we now find ourselves in. It was Dwight D Eisenhower that warned America to beware of the Military-industrial complex. The voters of the late 50′s early 60′s didn’t listen. Look what has happened to America. We have had a sad history of shooting ourselves in our Uncle Sam feet!

            I just don’t care if you like me or agree with me… BUT… America turned from God and our Christian roots and we have been going downhill ever since.
            Many are going to shoot at me. Many are going to gag. A lot will not agree. That is not going to change anything! Unless/until AMERICA returns to our Christian roots America is going to continue slipping into the dumpster of history.SO…. show me up as a fool, idiot whatever you will… but to do that all of us will have to return to a christian mind set. I have set before you a challenge… keep on insulting each other. Keep on electing wicked, immoral men or…. return to your roots and watch America come back to greatness. Its your choice. Continuing as you are will only lead to the demise of America. ALL OF YOU!!!!

          • JeffH

            Karolyn, how on earth do you know the Capt to be a conservative? Because he said so? C’mon, even you’re smarter than that.

        • Alex

          While I certainly do not support terrorism of any kind, and find the idea of using one’s children for same to epitomize Evil, the suicide bomber is marginally less Evil than Paul Tibbetts or any of the rest of the Enola Gay mass-murderers. The reason is simple:
          For whatever sick purpose the suicide bomber obliterates himself and whatever non-combatants are unfortunate enough to be too close to him, he knows that it will be the very last thing he ever does. Tibbetts, however, was able to incinerate scores of thousands of non-combatants in an instant and still make it home for dinner. Now THAT’S Evil!!

          • Lost in Paradise

            No it was absolutly outstanding, and Way too cool. Glad we did it, and not so glad about the Marshal Plan.

        • Lost in Paradise

          Hey NitWit! Why are your knees nocking, and what it that yellow puddle between your feet all about? Iran scare you that much? Iran can be obliterated in less than 24 hours. All vaporized and very dead. However, they are like a Popcorn fart in a large stadium, a non-event.

        • Pepper

          Well Capt.Rich G, Get on down to that front line and protect us from those bad people and maybe 72 virgins will be a waiting for ya.

        • Alex

          Capt Rich? Captain of WHAT? The Tidy-Bowl boat? What a moron….

        • eve4drpaul

          Hey NITWIT Capt. Chicken- do you really think that if we were so worried about terrorists that Bush wouldn’t have immediately sealed our border on 9/12/01? How come he left our door wide open for them for 7 years after we were attacked? DUH! All this money on fighting terrorists and both the R’s and the D’s just want to let them waltz right in through the back door? Something doesn’t add up for those of us who can think.

        • Mike

          CAPT RICH G: The only way you can be honest is to admit that Obama’s campaign is paying you to spout this drivel. It’s either that, or you are truly one of the most intellecually challenged individuals I have ever had the misfortune to read. If we had more like you during the 1700′s, we would all be proper British subjects to this day. It is sad to see someone with your passion so willingly stretch out his neck for your masters to put a boot on it. Do some serious, independent research on your own, including voting records, of the candidates. There is only one who has consistently voted the way he said he would . Ron Paul. He has never told his constituents one thing, and did another. Some people like to compare Paul with Ross Perot. Think about this: Every prediction that Ross Perot made has come true. The same critics that trashed him and called him nuts are the same ones that are after Ron Paul. Perot was right, and now Paul is right. If only for your own self-respect, start thinking for yourself, instead of spouuting the latest MSM quotes.

          • jimmy the greek

            Not really mike ! I made fun of Ross Perot ( i did no know what i know now ) and i was wrong . However Ron Paul is the one we need !

    • Alex Frazier

      How much are they paying you to come on this thread and spout the very objections covered by the thread’s article as though they hadn’t already been answered? I don’t think you missed a single one.

    • mickey

      Please re-read the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights. These are free, downloadable, and not hidden under the cloak of “secret”.

      Would you prefer to give up your right to free speech? How about search and seizure? (NDAA). How about gun rights?

      Also please look up a map of Iran and see how we have entirely isolated Iran with bombing every country.

      Bush, Clinton, Bush, obama think the Constitution is getting in the way and needs to go. What do you think the NWO document will look like. Yeah, I blew off the NWO thing since Bush I but all the activity going to the UN, including AZ’s position, the suing of states by the Fed, the open border, the DHS and now NDAA, I am a believer.

      The role of the Fed is to protect us from domestic (haven’t seen that lately) and foreign threats (who is threatening us), not to take over countries around the world.

      Many of the troops abroad were to keep Japan and Germany from re-building. Does either country threaten us after 60 yrs?

      A lot of these wars, besides making money for the military complex, are about oil. Canada, Mexico, and the US have oil. We will not suffer like Russia and China will if Iran shuts off the flow.

      Ever hear of hemp? Think it is only MJ? Wrong, the US drug cartels got it outlawed in preference to oil. Ford’s car was designed to run off hemp. Almost everything oil does can be done by hemp.

      So many are soooo ready to trash the Constitution/BR just “because” of the messenger. Some divide themselves into one group or another, religious, neo-con, color. The only documents that include all of us, people want to get rid of????

      Japan didn’t bomb us on the mainland, not because it was afraid of the military but because the citizens were armed.

      Please revisit these precious documents before determing how you vote. Listen to those that keep hammering “isolationalist” when that is not the case and those throwing “mullah” (a religious MALE holy man). These terms are MEANT to mislead.

      Please do not kill the messenger because one doesn’t like what it looks like.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        Does not change the fact that Paul is a nitwit & will never get nominated no less elected – Have a nice day

        • Lost in Paradise

          Please look in the mirror, and you will see the Real NItWit.

        • Mark Are

          Please look in the mirror, and you will see the Real NItWit.

        • Independant

          Paul will never ever get in the White House, this his third go at it and he is just as nutty and before. he starts out making sense then he ends up ranting, flailing his arms off on convoluted rant. Puhleeezzzzzzzzzzz!

        • willy cooper

          Hey capt g, where can I get some of what you are drinking??

      • Vigilant

        mickey says, “Many of the troops abroad were to keep Japan and Germany from re-building. Does either country threaten us after 60 yrs?”

        mickey, you need to study history. Guess you never heard of the Marshall Plan. Stationing of troops in both countries had nothing to do with preventeing a re-industrialization. In fact, just the opposite wasa intended.

      • Mike

        Well said, sir. Thank you. I fear we are simply wasting bandwidth in our replies to Capt Rich G. He is beyond hope and change.

      • Vigilant

        mickey also says, “Also please look up a map of Iran and see how we have entirely isolated Iran with bombing every country.”

        ENTIRELY isolated? Apparently Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan were bombed last nbight and the news didn’t cover it.

        Suggest YOU look at a map of Iran.

      • Vigilant

        Another gem of inaccuracy from mickey: “We will not suffer like Russia and China will if Iran shuts off the flow.”

        See http://205.254.135.7/countries/country-data.cfm?fips=RS

        •Russia holds the world’s largest natural gas reserves, the second largest coal reserves, and the eighth largest crude oil reserves.

        •Russia was the largest producer of crude oil in 2009, surpassing Saudi Arabia.

        •Russia has the largest natural gas reserves in the world and it is the second-largest producer of natural gas.

      • Vigilant

        “Almost everything oil does can be done by hemp.”

        mickey, you’re science challenged as well as history challenged.

        • jimmy the greek

          Hemp ! I well smoke to that !

      • Vigilant

        And last, but not least, “Japan didn’t bomb us on the mainland, not because it was afraid of the military but because the citizens were armed.”

        Yes, we all know how effective small arms are against bombers.

        • JeffH

          Vigilant, sometimes it’s just too easy isn’t it…happy holidays! :)

          • Vigilant

            Thank you Jeff. All the best to you and yours!

        • JC

          I don’t think one single “Zero” made it past Omaha! LOL

    • M Yass

      Look troll, get with the program. Ron Paul is winning and his numbers continue to soar. Unless your in denial, he’s winning. Save your pathetic comments and go join a Ron Paul Haters forum.

      • Angela

        I think HATE is a very strong emotion. I do not hate anyone, but when Ron PAul wants to legalize marijuana, agrees with same-sex marriage that alone tells me he has morals or ethics. All the other stuff he is for is terrifying to the U.S. This man is so far left it is not funny. Hate him? Absolutely not! But is disagree with him 100%! He would take our country down even further than obummer has!

        • Lost in Paradise

          No Way, and never. You totally misunderstand what he is about. He is about the U.S. constitution, and letting it be our guide. You need to do more research, and learn before you speak. You know nothing about what you speak.

          • Karolyn

            AMEN! This is the only reason Paul does not have even more support. Too many people don’t really know what they are talking about and are just mimicking what they hear. It’s easier to just go along with the herd. OMG! Legalize marijuana! If people would put a little more thought into the drug situation and do some research, they would see that the War on Drugs is a lost cause, and drug addiction needs to be approached differently.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Angela,

          It is obvious you have not considered the positions of Ron Paul and are only parroting what the mainstream media have fed you. You are suffering from a combination of normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance. I encourage you to go here: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ and see how wrong you are.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

        • Pepper

          You say that like the rest of the crowd has morals! I like the fact that RP lives morally but doesn’t force that morality on any one. As Rome burns down around you, are you going to refuse water because the guy carrying the bucket to put out the fire might not be up to your moral standards? Meanwhile the others are busy starting more fires? I fail to see your logic. Maybe we can have JC run, after all he did walk on water.

        • Don the Canuck

          Angela,

          I would strongly suggest you do a little more reading. I do not know where you get your information, but you display a common ailment that affects most people who only listen to MSNBC or other msm channels to get their only source of information.

          You need to read further into the definitions and the correct meanings of the candidates positions.

          Stating things like RP wants to legalize marijuana is fine, but then you also need to expand on why and how this came to pass.

          Saying Michelle Bachmann is a bad choice be upset at because she worked for the IRS, thus she must love taxing people , would give the wrong message.

          Do not reduce your level of interaction with statements that you cannot possibly back up, unless you wish to be thrown into the same abyss of ignorance as a great many of the populace who refuse to read the information properly before they make a choice of candidate. This is exactly what has gotten you all to this point in the first place.

          Choose your sources for information and dig deep to better understand what the candidates really are and what they truly represent. Anyone who still believes that RP is a threat to the U.S. is simply in denial and has not understood his positions in any way. this guy is the only true patriot that you have standing on the stage right now.

          Why else would your military bestow upon him the funding that they have, and why else would he be the only popular candidate outside of the U.S.? Why else would this old fellow who has little ability to speak publicly have garnered so much support? Well, the truth is a strong glue that can hold together a people and in the end, it always prevails. think about that for a moment. Why else would his supporters be so adamantly sure about his position? find out and you shall be cured of your inability to comprehend that this is the only candidate who truly loves America and it PEOPLE, as individuals, without any need to cater to lobbyists or special interests, or corporations. I could go on and on about his virtues, but unless you read his books and study his actions over the last 30 years, you will never understand. Start by reading your constitution and you may find that your eyes will open. Only one guy on stage that is willing to put it all on the line for the people, and selflessly has done so for the last 30 years. you figure out who that person is. Pretty clear to many now.

          • JC

            Well said Don.
            Cheers to the “Great White North” :)

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            It ain’t RP – JO

          • JC

            Gee Capt., you’re into a full on tantrum today aren’t you?
            Go Ron Paul 2012, Go Constitution ! ;)

        • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

          Angela, Marijuana should be made legal to sell just like any other poison available in garden shops to kill weeds. Lots poisons available very freely without running risk of being charged by police for daring to have weed killer in your garden shed.Imagine how many police hours will be saved or used to track the dealers or how much your lawyers will lose in lost revenue or how much extra time your courts will have to procees murders cases faster? Imagine how many of your children who make the silly mistake of trying the Brain Poison anf get caught by police, but then wont have a police record allowing them another few chances at getting a good education because they know they can get a better job without a drug possession conviction? Imagine how many of your youth will have a better chance at life after their silly teen years are over? Imagine that?

    • Jason

      In today’s world? Ron Paul’s point is we need to behave ourselves by setting a good example so that we don’t get to the point where a nuclear exchange becomes more likely. He wants to advocate those policies which will actually build friendship in the world. Genuine friendship deters war far more than being an aggressive, hair triggered control freak. America got a bloody nose on 9/11 due in large part to blowback from our interventions in the world that are not common knowledge of the people. Before you keep going on about how Ron Paul would make us less safe, take some time to dig up the facts. Also, just as he is a man of steel in regards to honoring and obeying the Constitution, I am certain if the American people hand him a war properly declared by Congress, he will have the same steely resolve to quickly and efficiently decimate any legitimate threat to us. His capacity to demonstrate cool resolve under difficult circumstances indicates to me that he is the most mentally qualified to be our commander-in-chief. The military knows this and this is why he gets more than double the donations all of the other GOP candidates combined and more than Obama from our active duty members of the military.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        when you were growing up – you believed in the tooth fairy – I can tell — you still do

        • JC

          You sound like a homeless tourettes victim…very sad.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Capt Rich G

          We invite honest, intellectual discussion. The quality of argument you bring doesn’t rise to middle school level. You have been banned from commenting for the foreseeable future for repeated violations of the terms of use policy.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • cawmun cents

            Again Bob,

            I must strongly protest the action of taking posts off the discussion table.There are thousands of people who do not post,reading this blog.
            Your actions may be seen as contemptible to someone out there sitting on the fence.
            While I completely understand the need for keeping some from being harrassed and bullied,my strong inclination is to say that these people will be seen in the proper light by those who read this blog.
            Banning someone from posting only serves to show others that there is a spirit of intolerance here.
            Normally I would say throw the moron to the lions,but regarding Constitutional rights,it may be more consistent if you were to let the morons have their part and parcel,regardless of their need to be irritants.
            Sorry if I open a can of worms but I really enjoy the ability to post here.
            Best regards,
            -CC.

          • libertytrain

            I think he uses vast restraint in letting some of the posts stay – however, it is his choice, and if someone really pushes way beyond the more than generous limits given to one on this site, he has the option to remove for however long he chooses.

    • DaveH

      Tom,
      Russia has more Nuclear Weapons than any other country on this earth. Russia is an ally of Iran. Your fears are misplaced.
      Wise words — “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” — Ben Franklin.
      I would add that they “Will get neither Liberty nor Safety”.
      The Fear-Mongering by the Leaders has one main purpose — to secure the votes of the misled populace while they and their Crony Capitalists bleed us dry.

    • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

      Uh.. friends in Israel? Perhaps you’d better check your news wire. A shipload of patriot anti-missle missiles which we gave to Israel was just interdicted on its way to CHINA!!!

      • jimmy the greek

        That Crap has been going on for a long time ! israel is no ones friend and not to be trusted .

      • Daniel

        I read that those missles were made in Germany. Who do you blame now

        • jimmy the greek

          Today Germany is run by the zionist thanks to our not minding are own business . however by 1941 the zionist had a good foot hold in our government to . Roosevelt was itching to get us into war , so i am not surprised

    • jimmy the greek

      One can not grow into it ! one has to live it . I am a biker i have lived that lifestyle from my early 20′s ( i am now 60 ) Some yuppie that buys a new Harley and chaps well never be a biker if you understand . Like we used to say You talk the talk but can you walk the walk .

      • Vigilant

        And my guess that you’ve been a bigoted, anti-Semitic idiot for just about as long.

        • jimmy the greek

          Living In the projects in Newark and perth amboy tend bring one into the real world .

          • Vigilant

            And what, pray tell, brought you into the fantasy world of Holocaust denial?

        • jimmy the greek

          The truth Vigilant ! there were not six million jews in all of Europe at that time . and the the six million thing is just a fairy tail .

          • Vigilant

            And how many Elvis sightings have you had recenly?

    • kkflash

      Tom Justin & Capt Rich, I take your comments that Ron Paul is out of the mainstream as a compliment to him. YOU, however, are right in the mainstream of the river of economic and political destruction, and swimming with the current. As they say, “If you keep doing what you’ve been doing, you’ll keep getting what you’ve gotten.” The name of the political party doesn’t matter. Both Republicans and Democrats have fed the redistributionist system to buy votes. All the current candidates but Ron Paul stand for the status quo. Obama, Gingrich, Romney and all the rest just say whatever they think you want to hear, in order to buy your vote. Then they change nothing while in office. And you’re buying every lie they’re selling. Show some courage. Spend your time convincing people to vote for REAL conservative principles, liberty and personal responsibility instead of giving in to the “Newt Romney” propaganda. Vote for Ron Paul.

  • sorighton

    This dude needs to have his facts correct regarding Brandstad’s statements. I am neither “ya” or “na” regarding Paul but I do like to read true facts. Brandstad did NOT have an offer to be VP for Romney but only a suggestion from a friend – he laughed it off. PLEASE don’t print something that is not true – it only hurts the Paul campaign. Iowa still matters – like it or not.

    • DaveH

      Who was that friend? Bob Dole, the same Establishment Republican who hung over Ronald Reagan like a wet rag, eventually convincing him to “compromise” his small-government Principles:
      http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20111220/OPINION01/312200042/Obradovich-Branstad-vice-president-talk-now-what-s-all-about-

      • sorighton

        I can’t believe anyone who conspires to being a conservative would read the DM liberal Register let alone believe it; however, you answered your own question. The article does NOT say Brandstad is a VP possibility. Even though he would probably make a good one he is not interested – don’t care what the bloggers make of the suggestion.

        • DaveH

          I don’t just “conspire” to be a Conservative, I am a True Conservative. Our founders disdained Foreign Entanglements (treaties, foreign wars):
          http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/lazarowitz7.1.1.html

          Only one of the Republican Presidential candidates adhere’s to that, the rest are Military Statists.

          By the way, sorighton, what difference the source if they speak the truth?

          • libertytrain

            Dave I do so enjoy your posts.

          • DaveH

            Thank you for your kind remark, Libertytrain.

  • KnowTheTruthToday

    If Paul were to win the Republican nomination it would only mean a land slide for Obama. Mostly people know about the popular items that Paul stands for and not some of his 60′s hippie mentality.

    • Karolyn

      You may be very wrong. I am one of a number of Obama voters that I know who would vote for Paul over Obama. As a matte of fact, we are voting for Paul in the Republican primary in SC. Think about it. You really do not know us, and I am sure there are many of us thinking registered Democrats, although we are more Independent.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        The only thing you are independent from is intelligence/reality (school yard name)

        • JC

          Ignorant, hateful, miserable, racist troll…
          Slither back under your rock, liberal..

      • eric siverson

        Paul could take a lot of democrat votes too . The anti-war people are a big part democratic party . Paul is definately the most anti-war canditate . I think Paul would at least try to pt us is a better direction for a change . Fighting all these wars has about bankrupt us . I see no sense to them , especialy when we have been fighting on the wrong side most of the time .

      • DaveH

        Karolyn isn’t alone:
        http://www.facebook.com/bluerepublican

        Blue Republicans — Democrats who are registering Republican to vote for Ron Paul.

    • Alex Frazier

      I don’t think you’re right at all. Ron Paul has one thing most Republican candidates rarely possess; Democrat voters. His message is a true American message, and it has attracted voters in a bipartisan fashion. If he wins the nomination, Obama won’t have much of a chance. When it comes time to debate, there won’t be any mud Obama can throw. He can criticize Paul for his foreign policy, but Obama has almost the same foreign policy. He can call him a racist, but that’s an empty claim. It didn’t work years ago, and it’s not going to work now. He can criticize Paul for wanting to do away with the EPA by claiming that Paul wants to “dump mercury into the water supply,” but nonsense like that is taking an argument to an unrealistic extreme.

      Paul, on the other hand, can bring up issue after issue to discredit Obama.

      Obama may be articulate and charismatic, but Paul is sincere, constitutional, and unsullied. When the character of the two men is shown side by side, Obama is barely half the man Paul is.

      • sorighton

        I am concerned that Paul could not stand up to Obama in a debate – he can’t stand up to Bachmann. It makes me wonder where all of the donations are coming from since he seems to have lots of money to spend on campaigning. Is it from the rich liberals? Are they trying to get him to be the nominee. Same with Gingrich – everyone wants him to be the nominee since he can’t BEAT Obama up in debates. HEY, who says Obama will even debate? He doesn’t have to do anything he doesn’t want to do you know. I doubt he will participate against Gingrich – but he probably would against Paul.
        I am looking at Gov. Perry very closely right now since I think he may be a combination of Paul’ conservative message yet have some military background to keep our country safe. It may be time for that. We can’t continue to let the world take us over and I’m concerned that a isolationist president would continue down that path we are currently on.

        • M Yass

          Well its a good thing Ron Paul wins every debate, according to CNN, MSNBC and ABC internet polls.

          • sorighton

            HE DOES???? I really pay close attention to those media outlets….NOT

        • Lost in Paradise

          Now how do you think an isolationist would continue down the path we are on now? THat is really a dumb statement. The path Obama has us on, it not about isolationism, it is about communism, and islamification. In addition to that Obama wants to open America to the world.

          Paul is in no way an isolationist, and has never indicated he was. He is talking about being friends with other nations, and trading with them. Is that Isolationism??????? Now Way!

        • Don the Canuck

          Sorighton,

          Perhaps you should do a little more research if you are wondering where Ron Paul gets his funding from. Do a little exercise with me, would you? Check out where his funding comes from, and then go over the results to find why the funding comes from that source. Let me help you out a little. Do not look for corporations because Ron Paul cannot be bought. Another hint………check out where your military boys and girls send their money to when they choose a candidate. I”ll help you out a little more. He receives more money from individual soldiers and military personnel than all other candidates combined. Must be his “flawed” foreign policy, indeed. Once you have figured out that his funding comes from individuals, and a whole lot of them, you might come to the conclusion that this guys may well be genuinely working in the best interests of the populace, even though so many of them continue to wonder about his commitment to the American People.

          Find out where the majority of the funding comes from, and you will have the answer to the question. “Which candidate has the interests of the American People at heart?”

          I hope this helps.

          • jimmy the greek

            Spot On Don thank you !

          • sorighton

            Just the facts – just the facts. Just because a “person” says so doesn’t make it fact. Guess what…..I am a TEA Party member and I still can’t force myself to vote for Paul. I think true thinking TEA Party members will look deeper.

          • JeffH

            sorighton, you wouldn’t vote for the grandfather of the Tea Party?
            Me thinks you are a Tea Party RINO!

          • Alex Frazier

            sorighton, It was the Ron Paul followers who started the Tea Party movement, based upon Ron Paul’s political campaign platform of reduced government spending, a balanced budget, smaller government, reduced regulations, and constitutionality.

            Let me give you some small measure of advice. Don’t waste your time trying to discredit Paul. Those who discover him will be loyal, because you can’t be a Ron Paul advocate unless you first understand the issues. Once you understand the issues, you realize that he is the only candidate who even has the frame of mind to correct them. Once you realize that he’s the only viable candidate, no one else will do.

            So you’ll never convince a Paul supporter to turn their back on him.

            If, on the other hand, you are open to being convinced of Paul’s merit, I would be happy to tell you anything you want to know. I can tell you his policies, the reasons for his policies, and a number of other things. I can demonstrate the accuracy and validity of his positions as well. He’s the right man for this country, and I’m willing to prove it.

            But you needn’t waste your time trying to convince us that he’s the wrong candidate. It will be in vain.

        • eric siverson

          Isolationist would not have bombed Yugoslavia , and installed two former nazi’s for presidents and prime ministers . Yugoslavia was clearly none of our buisness . If Orthadox Christians would rather fight than live under Shariah law that again is none of our buisness . If Germany wanted to try take Yugoslavia for the third time in the last century , we should have let them do it by themselves . Isolationists would have not bombed Libya and installed the Al Qaida as the rulers of Libya , It was none of our Buisness ,but even worse than that we supported the wrong side in evreyone of these little Wars. I’am sick of paying for these stupid wars and creating debts for my kids .I really have no preference for Shariah law over the chinese communists . I agree with Paul why not just stay out of these wars and pay our debts down .

          • jimmy the greek

            This Eastern Orthodox christian says your right ! Eric thanks !

        • DaveH

          Surely you jest, Sorighton? Ron can’t beat Obama in a debate? Please. He would win hands down. Sure, those who feed at the trough won’t admit that. But Obama, who is good at reading from a teleprompter is terribly weak when it comes to impromptu speeches or debates:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

          Anybody, who spends some time reading about economic matters outside the MSM Propaganda networks, knows that the Liberal agenda is bankrupt and illogical. Obama would be stammering like a baby if he was without his teleprompter, but beyond that his ideology would be easily refuted by the wise Ron Paul.

          For those who would like to gain some Economic knowledge, go to mises.org.

          • sorighton

            I hope you are right but I can’t see it. Maybe if the debate sticks to the Federal Reserve but if it gets outside of that box I think Obama would eat him up. PLUS, who declares that Obama will debate anyone…………he may not. Just take his billion bucks along with his bully pulpit and have fun knocking down the opposition.

        • Paradigmshift

          Have you not been paying attention at all? You should read the article before commenting on it. Dr. Paul does not have an “isolationist” foreign policy, he is a non-interventionist. There is a HUGE difference. I really am more concerned about people like you than the trolls and shills like capt g. You are still looking for a candidate that will have conservative values “but willing to have the military to keep our country safe from the new world order.” Where do you think the NWO is? Every neocon and Zionist is New World Order! Do you know where the neocons and the Zionists are? They are the appointees of Obama’s administration and Bush the 2 before him, and Clinton before him and Bush the 1 before him. Also, the Tea Party has been usurped by them, that’s why all of us conservatives will no longer support the tea party. Zionism = New World Order. Wake Up! Who do you think is the only candidate that is standing up for Constitutional government, which is diametrically opposed to the NWO? Why do you think they hate him so much?

        • kkflash

          Sorighton, you’re mistaken. Ron Paul can easily handle Obama in any debate, because he has nothing to hide, the truth on his side, and American pride. Obama, on the other hand has to defend out of control spending, socialist tending and leadership pretending.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        2 ways to reward a liberal or Paul supporter #1 – a long prison term or #2 – lethal injection – no other way will suffice- So Mote It Be

        • Charles

          By threatening us, you reveal your true stormtrooper criminal character.

          Troll.

          • jimmy the greek

            Stormtrooper my @$$ them are the words of a zionist Charles not a Nazi !

        • M Yass

          Troll, Ron Paul Hater, New World Order boot licker, and A-hole as well. Go start your own Hate Ron Paul forum.

          • Angela

            You sound just like Ron Paul! He hates America too!

          • Karolyn

            Angela – What are you, nuts? Ron Paul is probably the only REAL American running!

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            The line is to long already – I’ll just slide in here behind all of the rest of intelligent people & listen to you Kool Aid drinking morons try to get obama reelected- a-holes

          • DaveH

            Capt Rich,
            I’ve been listening to “morons” like yourself say the same old trash for the last 40 years of my adult life. The results are always the same — More Big Government Growth.
            Ron Paul wants a Government staffed by people who obey the same rules of morality and obey the same laws as the rest of us are expected to obey.
            He knows that when the Welfare Statists want to “help” people, that they do that by Stealing the money of others (and keeping most of it for themselves).
            He knows that when the Military Statists want to promote “democracy”, they do that by Killing others who were no direct threat to our Country. And without any semblance of Due Process. But, that’s okay because it’s a “war” or a “military action”. Somehow calling it a war or military action suspends all morality. How convenient. Hitler would have been proud.

          • JC

            Angela says:

            December 26, 2011 at 8:59 am

            You sound just like Ron Paul! He hates America too!
            __________________________________________________________

            Who’s telling you this? Is it the voices again?
            Have you considered changing your Meds?
            Poor you, so deluded.

          • MRMO

            I TELL YOU WHAT, IF CAPT RICH G AND ANGELA ARE NOT ALREADY A COUPLE THEY SURE DESERVE EACH OTHER, THEY ARE BOTH BRAIN DEAD AND NEED TH GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM. A PIT WITH NO BOTTOM.

          • JC

            Karolyn says:
            December 26, 2011 at 9:04 am
            Angela – What are you, nuts? Ron Paul is probably the only REAL American running!
            ____________________________________________________________
            Karolyn, there’s days I really like you. ;)

        • Lost in Paradise

          Capt Rich G, you are one really confused mf. I would like to stick you with a 10″ shive at this very moment. You are nothing but a pile of dog excrement. LMAO

          • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

            You must be a true liberal – you can’t eve spell correctly – it is shiv no e in the word – & after reading your statement- I can see why you are a Paul ass kisser – you would not even know how to use a SHIV

          • Alex

            It’s ‘even’ with an ‘n’, Cap’n Crutch

        • The old Curmudgeon

          So Mote it be is a fraternal bit of language. I think it is highly mis placed here when you are spouting such vitriol. Freemasonry would not approve!

        • JC

          Just look at the way Capt. lashes out at all things American.
          He’s obiously dealing with so much fear he’s completely hysterical.

        • Paradigmshift

          U R Irrelevant!

    • Charles

      Well, you certainly are misinformed an utterly illogical.

      Apparently your way of getting rid of Obama, whom you dislike so much (but not as much as I dislike him, because you are OK with his polcies because your candidates offer the same, while I support Obama’s OPPOSITE: Ron Paul.), is to offer an “R” candidate who is most like him. Then, according to you, we win. By replacing Obama with his twin.

      Ron Paul, a 60′s hippie? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Can you tell up from down?

      • Lost in Paradise

        Apparently whoever came up with that hippie crap is too young to remember the hippies, or never have been around them. What a Crock! Ron Paul does not even come close to that mold. AT this very moment, “young and dumb”comes to mind. No experience what so ever, so do not make statements.

    • Sirian

      HA, you are thinking, or should I say, NOT THINKING, exactly along the line that they want? Can’t you see it? Obviously not.

    • Scott

      Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who attracts both democrats, republicans and independents with his message because he is the only one who tells the truth and will do what he says he will do.

      • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

        The only thing Paul attracts is liberals & nitwits – he could not attract anything else – not even flies if he was standing in a septic tank

        • libertytrain

          oh, good argument – that will win people over to your thinking…. (good grief)

          • DaveH

            He is rather pitiful, isn’t he Libertytrain?

          • libertytrain

            yes.

          • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

            This troll is not interested in any thing those who are feeding him care about. He(she, it) only cares about the thirty pieces of silver he will earn for his hours sitting at his ACORN(or CIA or NSA or US ARMY,MOSSAD, etc., etc.,etc.)supplied computer selling out his country.
            Can one really be so naive as to think this bloviator comes on here, altruistically to save us from the danger of voting in our own best interests?
            The only question I have is: do these lurkers get paid by the post or by the lie? I guess if they work for the govt. they only get their rating’s pay, but probably get promised promotions if they can log in enough malicious comments. One would wish that our military would be staffed with better people than that, but hey..
            I have to say, though that I would have expected this class of smudge to have refined the methods behind their blatherings from the 2008 campaign but no, still the same hokum. I think they may have “misunderestimated” their target this time.

          • libertytrain

            maybe like the old factory work – it’s by the piece – and you’re right…odd ducks.

          • JC

            He’s one of the sicker trolls we’ve seen, that’s for sure.

    • kkflash

      Au contraire, Knowthetruth. The truth is Ron Paul stands for many ideas that independents and even many liberals hold dear. Who has historically been the most vocally anti-war, liberals or conservatives? Ron’s non-militarist views will ring loudly with liberal peace-mongers. Who has his historically been for the legalization of marijuana, liberals or conservatives? Ron Paul supports legalization on economic grounds, not because he’s pro-drug use. He recognizes that you can’t legislate morality, and his views on this subject will win the support of many liberals and independents. His views on many subjects cross the political party boundaries. The only folks he can’t win over are those looking for a handout, and those like you, who think we have to settle for compromising our principles to win the election.

  • Earl Behrens

    Ron Paul is my choice. I voted for him before and I plan to vote for him again.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      A-hole

      • M Yass

        Troll, and a Ron Paul Hater.

      • s c

        Private, you have that nasty mask of wanting to be seen as a neocon/RINO, but I’m betting you’re a closet utopian. You’ve said damn little in your rants, and your thoughts are as relevant as an ankle-biting mongrel. Whizz off, jerk.

        • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

          Kool Aid drinking a-hole – dip s–t

          • MRMO

            HO CAP. LOVE THE WAY YOU WORK WITH ALL THE BIG WORDS A-HOLE, LEARN SOME NEW WORDS….

  • Gary

    It seems strange to me that the so called “conservatives” and Republican elite dislike Ron Paul as much as they do. Conservatives like to say that the constitution is the be all and end all yet Ron Paul is the only candidate that actually believes that the constitution is important and should be followed.

    • Sirian

      Gary you need to keep one thing in mind – the Progressives have infiltrated the Republican Party too. They are working both sides of the aisle on a much grander scale now. RP is without question Constitutional. The only other two that fit into that category are either Santorum or Bachman. The main top leaders of this race are far from what our country truly needs. Romney, Gingrich & Perry are in essence RINO’s, simply as that.

      • Alex Frazier

        I’ll have to disagree with you on that one. Bachman and Santorum both voted for the Patriot Act, which effectively stripped us of our fourth amendment rights. They are both betrayers of the public trust.

        • kkflash

          I like Bachmann for her conservative fiscal views, but she doesn’t really stand for personal liberty. She used to work for the IRS – need I say more?

      • MRMO

        SIRIAN YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. NEWT,ROMNEY,PERRY ARE THE SAME DEAL N.W.O. THE OTHERS ARE AT LEAST BETTER. EXCEPT FOR THE NUT FROM AZ MC CAIN.. PAUL IS THE BEST HOPE WE HAVE. SORRY ALEX F. NO ONE IS PERFECT, BUT RON IS AS CLOSE AS IT GETS.

    • David Hughes

      All you people that think Paul is the god to run this country.Vote for him and watch Obama go back in for 4 more years.And make all you do as he says .You will bow down to the Hitler of the USA.

      • Charles

        Proof, troll, proof. Where’s the proof.

      • JC

        So vote for Gingrich, Romney or Perry and get 4 more years of Globalism shoved down our throats? How is that any different than having the Kenyan in the White House?
        At least the Kenyan has the effect of waking people up.

    • Angela

      Have you listened to the debates? Ron Paul would never follow the Costitution!

      • Lost in Paradise

        Angela I think you have your candidates mixed up, or you are really really stupid.

        • JC

          She simply has no idea what the Constitution is, and a lot of other things too…

      • Bill

        Angela, come on now, site the portion of the debate that would tell us that he would not follow the Constitution. have you read the constitution? Its easy for someone like you to get on this discussion and simply write what you think. But show us the proof. People can see right through your statements and what you are about. It would help if you simply backed up your words with the truth.

      • Alex Frazier

        Angela, you are obviously a troll trying to stir up trouble. Your comments are too precisely aimed at Ron Paul’s strengths, which indicates that you know exactly what he stands for, and what his platform is. I’m smart enough to know that you aren’t that dumb. You’re doing it on purpose, with full knowledge of it. Would you please go away?

    • DaveH

      No, Gary, they are NOT Conservatives. They are Neo-Conservatives.
      True Conservatives want what Ron Paul wants.
      Ron is one of the Few in the Political Class who genuinely wants what is best for the country rather than what is best for the Leaders and their Crony Capitalists.

  • Lost in Paradise

    I will also vote for Paul, because he is what I believe in, and what I believe America needs. I am also sure that Obama will win, because of all the money and because the main stream will get what they think they want.

    I guess I will need to go to my grave with a dream about living in a country with TRUE liberty. It surely is not, and will not be the USA.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      Another A-hole Kool Aid drinker

      • M Yass

        Still a troll, Ron Paul Hater, and wanna-be internet bully.

      • DaveH

        Rich, you’re just another Big Government Loving Liberal in NeoConservative clothes.

  • Phil

    Ron Paul is exactley what America needs and the more he gains in popularity the more you will see him being attacked .That will be your proof.If Ron Paul or someone like him does not get elected , business will continue as usual in Washington , which is to say the least, will not be in your best interest.

    • http://personallibertydigest Capt Rich G

      You don’t get it moron – a vote for Paul will get the smoke re-elected – Paul will never get nominated no less elected – get used to the idea & prepare to vote for someone who can win back the WH – Utopia aint in your future Budro

      • DaveH

        Now we can add Racist to your dubious list of character flaws.

      • jimmy the greek

        Smoke ? dam are you trying to take my title ? I am the one around here that is the racest . LOL

  • http://mozilla Robert E. Lee

    aUSTRALIA;; WE CONSERVATIVES ARE YOUR BIGGEST FEAR; PROGRESSIVES IN BOTH PARTIES ARE TRYING TO destroy America by spouting the equal justice, redistribution of welfare crap you limies like. When the rubber hits the road anyone person on the Repub ticket would be a better leader than OPIMPBO.

    • Charles

      All Australians are the same? I think not. This man is on the right side.

      Just FYI, your claims are collectivist. Perhaps you should give this a little thought, before posting again. Unless you are a troll.

    • Angela

      Wish you Austrlians could vote! You are so right about Obummer! Conservatives have got to stick together and vote for a real conservative. That is absolutely NOT Ron Paul! He is a liberal and would take this country down, down just like obummer!

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul is the ONLY Conservative still standing in the Republican Presidential field. None of the rest would do anything but grow Government larger:
        Let’s get some real Shrinkage going:
        http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

      • JC

        Clueless…totally clueless…

      • Alex Frazier

        Ron Paul is not a liberal. He’s more constitutionally conservative than just about anyone in congress. Once again, you’re attacking his known strengths, and very precisely at that. It’s too coincidental to be a coincidence. You’re clearly a troll trying to stir up trouble. Just go away.

      • kkflash

        Angela, it’s people like you that give conserviatism a bad name.

        • MRMO

          AMEN !!!!!!
          RON PAUL 2012

    • JC

      REL, Australians are not Limies.
      Limey’s = English
      Aussies = Australians
      Kiwi = New Zealander
      Canuck = Canadian
      Yankee = American
      NeoCon = You.

      Hope that helps. ;)

  • Donahue

    IMHO Ron is the way to go for the health of America, however, he can’t make it… The “sheeple” like the “freebies” and will vote for them. They are of the mindset of: “Ask what your country can do for you- Not, what you can do for your country” (Kennedy) Hence since Ron will say get off your butts and we can’t “afford” more “freebies” as we’re “bankrupt”, he’ll never make it…
    “Okie” don

    • mickey

      Well, “he can’t make it” if people keep considering “group think” (along with calling out people in terms of group) is more important than the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      These are the bottom line. We all have an investment in them.

  • http://www.wethepeoplenation.com/content.php Jasonsdad

    Ron Paul is either crazy or lying plain and simple in the last debate he stated and I Quote (Kennedy called Khrushchev and talked him out of a nuclear exchange.)

    This statement is so far from the truth I don’t no where to begin. First Kennedy never spoke directly to Khrushchev. Paul would have younger generations believe that Jack and his buddy Nikita had a nice phone conversation, then while smoking Cuban cigars and sipping brandy came to a mutual agreement. All negotiations were done through secret emissaries by letters. The Moscow to Washington hot line came about after this crisis or because of it.

    Next Paul fails to mention that our whole military was on alert we went to DEFCON 2 which is one step from all out nuclear war. We blockaded Cuba dropped depth charges on a Soviet sub. The diplomacy worked because of the BIG STICK our military was waving.

    I was a child when this happened we had regular air raid drills in case of a nuclear attack. I don’t know what planet he was on when this occurred. Maybe RP was trying out the drugs he wants to legalize now, but his statement is just a flat out misrepresentation of history.

    Cuban Missile Crisis can be found at WIKI

    This is just one easily verifiable lie he tells more recent lies are when he says Michele Bachmann is not telling the truth about the IAEA report. Her is the report read it and decide who’s lying http://isis-online.org/uploads/isis-…n_8Nov2011.pdf

    • Lost in Paradise

      I was about 15 when all this went down, and I do believe that Kennedy did have some communication with Nekita. All that really happened, as I remember it, was the kremlin tryed to bluff us, but it did not work, and the act of calling his bluff scared his communist ass.

    • Alex Frazier

      Jasonsdad, “talking” to Khrushchev may simply be a figure of speech. Whether Kennedy did the talking or one of his secretaries talked to him, the point is that the issue was resolved through dialog rather than an exchange of fire.

      We may have been at DEFCON 2, blockading Cuba, etc., but we were able to do that because our forces were at home. Right now our forces are in the middle east.

      I’ll get back to you on the IAEA report.

      • Mike W.

        Virtually all the communiques were done via telegram or radio teletype back then. When Kruschev sent a letter via telegram, it required the services of a translator. Also keep in mind Russian is written in the Cyrillic alphabet. Transliteration into the Latin alphabet required the utmost scrutiny. Get something wrong and the perception could have been disatrous!
        I remember, too October, 1962 like it happened yesterday. My family prepared for the worst case scenario.
        In retrospect, there still is some secrecy cloaked in the Cuban Missile Crisis. It’s highly unlikely that we who lived through that tumultous period will really know exactly what transpired. No doubt JFK took a lot with him 13 months later. Even Hollywood amused & terrorized us in 1964 with “Fail Safe” and “Dr. Srangelove.”
        However, almost 50 years later, we still find the world dangerous and on the verge of both social and economic collapse.

    • Alex Frazier

      You might have to find that report again and post a proper link.

      —–

      Sorry!

      The page you’re looking for can’t be found at this address.

      —–

    • mickey

      Umm, I too was young, when this happened. While I won’t go into a bunch of other things, I understand Russian subs were along the East Coast. JFK narrowly avoided this crisis. Russia did not think a young, new president would be able to do anything. He did.

      Also, Castro came to the US for help in Cuba and the US blew him off. We have had a standstill for 60 yrs and what did it get us?

    • mickey

      ummm you think hemp is only MJ? Look again. The big oil companies got hemp outlawed because Ford designed his car to run off hemp. We can make clothes, bags, etc, out of hemp. We don’t need oil we can develop (our refineries were shut down because it was cheaper to import).

    • Charles

      Well, fantasy is what it takes to oppose Ron Paul, and fantasy is what you have given us.

      You ought to find some fact first, your misrepresentation of what Ron Paul shows how lame one must be to oppose Ron Paul.

    • Angela

      I remember this time in history also. You are right. Our Navy on the sea, our boots on the ground is what stopped the missle crisis. Ron Paul is wrong on a lot of things and he is wrong for a leader! He is too liberal and he is racist!

      • Lost in Paradise

        I like racist, at least they know who the like and don’t like Angela. that is more than I can say for you a total follower and a goat.

      • JC

        Clueless.

      • kkflash

        Truly clueless.

    • Jason

      He said he “talked” to him. Why do you make the implication that they talked on the phone and smoked cigars and had a pleasant chit chat? You are inventing the lie and then trying to pin it on Dr. Paul. The point is, they talked in some fashion and worked the problem out via diplomacy rather than by us going to Russia and bombing them. I too agree having a BIG STICK is important. It’s only legitimate purpose (for a peaceful non-empire nation like ours) is to to deter invasion so that we can enjoy peace and liberty in our own land. People like you that want us going out and thumping everyone who peeps or mutters while be become an empire need to consider we are building up massive debts, both in economic terms and in friendship terms, with the world. It is unsustainable and therefore someone who is rational and capable of thinking in long-term, like Dr. Paul, is who we need as our leader.

      • DaveH

        And every great empire has gone the same route. First they spread themselves to far and create too many enemies; then they overspend and impoverish their countries to the point that they can no longer hold back the hordes of enemies they have created.
        Our Military State is the worst enemy of our Freedom.

    • kkflash

      Jasonsdad, you miss the point of Mr. Paul’s statement, which is that the Cuban missile crisis was solved by diplomacy, backed by military strength. Our military strength is not improved by spreading it thinly throughout the globe, but by concentrating our forces here in the US.

  • Michael Lewis

    “The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy; the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.” -Alex Carey, Australian social scientist who pioneered the investigation of corporate propaganda

    Following reports of serious financial abuses in the 1972 Presidential campaign, Congress amended the FECA in 1974 to set limits on contributions by individuals, political parties and PACs. But politicians exempted the commercial press, because the 1st Amendment prohibits abridging their freedom of speech and the press.

    2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i) The term “expenditure” does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed through the facilities of any broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, unless such facilities are owned or controlled by any political party, political committee, or candidate;

    It is normal for all large businesses to make serious efforts to influence the news, to avoid embarrassing publicity, and to maximize sympathetic public opinion and government policies. Now they own most of the news media that they wish to influence. – Excerpt from The Media Monopoly by Ben H. Bagdikian

    Communications for mass distribution are the only thing campaigns produce. If the commercial media were to carry political ads for free, as a public service, it would greatly reduce the need for money in politics. But corporate media make billions carrying political ads.

    Super pacs do not restore equal rights for flesh and blood citizens but they can help ‘we the people’ compete with the voice of the corporations; commercial media!

    The NRA bought a radio station. Should like minded citizens have to buy a radio station to exercise freedom of speech or a newspaper to exercise freedom of the press? How do campaign laws that give megaphones to corporate media and muzzle the voices of grass roots get corporate influence out of elections?

    The press exemption divides participation in America’s political process into two categories: The regulated majority, every living U.S. Citizen, candidate for office, political party and political organization and the unregulated commercial media.

    To restore equal protection under law, the “press exemption”, 2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i), should be modified to read: “The term expenditure does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed by any candidate, political party, citizen, citizens group, non-profit corporation, broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication.”

    • kkflash

      Though I abhor government regulation of just about anything, your post gave me an idea that I think would help get some of the money out of politics. The FCC licenses radio and television stations, right? So, what if we made it a condition of having that license, that you must provide, without cost, a certain amount of political airtime, to be doled out to registered candidates for public office on an “equal time” basis? It wouldn’t stop the parties from buying time, but it would give a media voice to the underfunded.

  • Donahue

    We MUST “kick them all out and install governmental officials that are truly for “We The People” not the banking cartel..
    Check out http://www.Republicfortheunitedstates.org
    This is a “peaceful movement” that wants governance for the people as it was meant to be not the present CORPORATION with a CEO that “fires” the CEO of General Motors- Rick Wagner.

    We don’t need CZARS to dictate what we can and can’t do. That’s why we elect Congressmen and Senatore to work for us. The ball has long ago be “dropped” IMHO anyway
    “Okie” don

  • vic

    @ tom justin: are you looking to enlist? do you want your kids to enlist? then shut up about whats going to happen over there! lets worry about whats going to happen here. we are bankrupt and cannot afford another endless, meaningless, unjust and undeclared war. brainwashed people like are the problem. you’ve been so accustomed to our country being in perpetual war that you think thats normal. its not. lets secure our own borders and let other nations secure their own.
    china, india, pakistan, n. korea, and russia have nukes, should we attack them? let iran get a nuke which they havent done yet anyway. israel has 300 nukes of their own, the best military in the mid east that american money can buy and the best economy in the region. they dont need our presence or our troops. by the way, israel was just caught selling missiles, built and paid for by the US, to china. so much for our ally, huh?

  • 57girl

    If I lived in Iowa and Ron Paul won, then was dismissed, I would be moving to have my Governor impeached. What the Governor is saying is that the people’s will does not matter if it is not in line with the ‘establishments’ agenda. The global elite are terrified of a Ron Paul win. He would turn our Nation back on course to our Constitution, begin restoring our rights, and ease us out from under the thumb of the bankers that own the majority of the Politicians. Ron Paul is the only Candidate in the race that is running for the love of his County. The rest are puppets, that will sell this Nation out for power and personal gain. Pay attention people. This may be our last shot to salvage our Sovereign identity. As far as Dr. Paul’s ideas on Foreign Policy go, study our recent (1953 forward) Military History. Is is America that is the aggressor and has been for almost 60 years. The facts are out there. Please, for the sake of peace and our financial security seek the truth. Ron Paul is absolutely correct in his views on Foreign Policy and our role in policing the world. Aside from the fact, we cannot financially afford to rule the world, what other Sovereign Nations do is none of our concern unless they impose a DIRECT threat to OUR National Security. Who would actually attack be so stupid as to invade America? That’s right . . . Nobody.

    • sorighton

      Does that mean the aggressive United States bombed our twin towers?

      • mickey

        Remember that song “Coward of the County”. The links are back to Saudi Arabia, have to look for them, but we have been their hired guns for quite some time.

        Then take a serious look at the vids on YT, the Towers and Bldg 7. The Pentagon has a hole the size of my house. There is no way, have to be familiar with the layout of the Pentagon, any jet plane could make so small a hole and leave no debris.

        Don’t feel bad, it took me several years to really look up this stuff and to change my mind about the whole thing.

        • sorighton

          OMG. What can I say?

        • Angela

          You are so wrong!!!!!! Are you drunk?

          • JC

            Good response, thought provoking, informative and Liberal.

      • Karolyn

        Could be…. There is much info out that sugggests that 9/11 was perpetrated by the powers-that-be. I was a skeptic, but not so much anymore. ANYTHING is possible given the people who run this world. Watch “Thrive the Movie” at http://www.thrivemovement.com or find it on YouTube if you can.

      • DaveH

        Maybe? Who knows? Leadership does have a well-established history of False Flag events to get their way:
        http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/01/18/10-false-flags-that-changed-the-world/

      • DaveH

        And, Sorighton, if you have the time, read this exposure of the real Pearl Harbor events. It will definitely open your mind:
        http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

        • sorighton

          Been there – done that. Different administration – different year. Different war and different media coverage. Heck, nobody even knew FDR was crippled. That wouldn’t happen now.

          • ohoh

            Wouldn’t happen now? Wake up dude. Maybe more sophisticated now, but it’s definitely happening right in front of you.

  • don

    i don’t think a bit of isolationism would hurt this country a bit. seems since clintons and the firrst bushes globalism kicked in everything has gone to crap and we’re on the worst end of it. look at the price we live under. i think if we pulled back away from everthing for a while and took care of ourselves first things might get better.

    • mickey

      Please look up the definition of “isolation” and “non-intervention”. The terms are not interchangeable.

  • SpecialKinNJ

    In what appears to be a minority opinion, this reader perceives Rep. Paul’s views as “eccentric”, especially those having to do with identifying those who are “out to get us” and taking steps accordingly. As Tony Blair put it back in 2001 regarding the aims of the late Osama and his minions: “If they (the 9/11 murderers) could have killed 500,000, they most surely would have done it” (exact number is not so important as the implications regarding the nature of civilization’s common enemy).

    The best service Mr. Paul could perform today, would be to run “away” and not again campaign to be president of the U.S.A.

    Of course, we cannot account for the constituency in Texas that elevated him to the House and has continued to sustain him there in residence (and also refuse to characterize him or them in terms at whose use either might, with cause, take offense–except for “eccentric”, a non-pejorative for present purposes and intents).

    • Karolyn

      You need to think outside the box.

      • Sirian

        Very few know how to “step out of the box” Karolyn, very few.

      • Charles

        SpecialKinNJ needs to get off the Kool Aid. There is not much thinking in quoting elitist Tony Blair.

        If we had not been screwing around in the Middle East for the last 60 years or more, perhaps we might not be attracting such problems. Only Ron Paul would stop screwing with those people. Speaking of Tony Blair, the British government have been colonializing far longer, screwing around in the Middle East for decades before we got there to help out poor floundering little monarchic England, as the sun set on its Empire, owing to the fact that 1) they were an imperial power and 2) they became more and more statist thus destroying the productivity of the English people.

        • SpecialKinNJ

          Further eccentricity in the utterances of a supporter of Mr. Paul is hardly unexpected–indeed is par for the course and recognized as such whenever detected.

          • Alex Frazier

            If you think eccentricity is a character attribute to be shunned, then you clearly think that our nation’s leadership should continue on its present course. And if the extent of your wisdom has determined that we should continue doing what we’ve been doing, then I don’t think your opinion counts for much. Even the politically illiterate are able to comprehend that what we’ve been doing for the last decade isn’t working. If it’s not working, then we need to try something different, which is what eccentricity is, to stray from the present course or established path. By definition, which I’m sure many people are aware of, insanity is doing the same thing over and over with the expectation of different results.

            If you are against eccentricity, then by default you advocate insanity.

            Give me Ron Paul over insanity any day.

      • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

        Looks like Capt rich g had to call in his supervisor after we “made” him. As usual, he had to switch to a different handle, too.
        I’m sure their bosses supply them with at cost opiates so they can sleep at night.

    • mickey

      Umm can’t remember the exact details but I think the US blackmailed Blair–take away support for debt restructuring or something along those lines.

      • SpecialKinNJ

        A somewhat eccentric view of Tony Blair’s motivation
        in identifying civilization’s common enemy–without reservation.

        • JC

          Blair is just another Globalist.
          Quoting him does not strengthen your view in any way.

    • DaveH

      SpecialKinNJ,
      as Hitler said “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think”.

      Do you think the Leaders (with the exception of Ron and a few others) are going to openly undermine their own power and perks by exposing to the people that they are working hand in hand with their Crony Capitalists so that a very small percentage of the population (themselves) can thrive and prosper at the citizens’ expense?
      Read the books “How Capitalism Saved America” and “The Big Ripoff: How Big Business and Big Government Steal Your Money” to learn some reality.

  • John Acord

    The Republican Old Guard Establishment is deathly afraid of Ron Paul and his supporters. They know that from the ranks of tens of thousands of Paul activists will come forth the leaders of the next generation. They may be able to derail Paul but not the movement. The movement will grow and dominate the Republican Party within the next two elections. These old canards of slow growth socialism will soon be cast on the ash heaps of history.

  • Ruth

    Ron Paul is a humble man who gently but firmly projects Courage, Conviction and Constitutional Character…show me a better candidate from any political persuasion and this Iowa Republican will vote for them! See you at the caucus! GO RON GO!!

  • johnd

    I changed from the Constitution Party to the Republican in the last election so that I could vote Paul in the primaries.
    The reason Paul won’t win is that there are too many votes making their living from the gov’t. trough. Big business and labor unions need big gov’t. to help them control the markets so they will fight him tooth and nail.Foreign interests would lose their American welfare and like it or not they have a lot of say in our policies.
    The Republicans should quit wasting money on trying to beat Obama and concentrate the resources on taking the senate and keeping the house. Obama could do nothing and if an impeachement was called for (and I think it should already have happened) there would be a chance of it happening.

    • sorighton

      I think Paul won’t win because people remember his out of this world debates from the past several times he has run for president. He has calmed down a little bit this time around. If the gubber rich liberals are funding his campaign just to get Obama re-elected I hope it doesn’t work for them. I’m still searching for a candidate with Paul’s Constitutional values yet willing to have the military to keep our country from being taken over by a new world order. I’m thinking it could be Perry if he could get some traction.

      • mickey

        lol, go to the dailypaul and I think you will see that Paul’s supporters are the nickel and dime peasant citizens. Check Romney and you will find big banks.

        If you change your mind, please add $5 to his campaign. It isn’t much, but it means a lot. You can even slay a dragon (I think this is still free) and a $5 donation will be made.

        Lest we forget billion dollar obama.

        • SpecialKinNJ

          barackobama.com will settle for $3 donations that entitle donors to a chance to dine with “Barack and Michelle”! Against the obvious appeal of that invitation, an appeal for $5 with no corresponding lottery won’t encourage equally massive par.ti.ci.pa.tion. Sorry.

          • mickey

            And the chances of winning the lottery is?

            No, thanks, if I am to give money for anything, it will be those old worn-out documents.

        • sorighton

          I don’t think so but thanks for the offer. It’s easy to run big bucks through small donations. Look at Geo Soros and his small sidelines. I have not decided who to support but this blog is scaring me. I don’t want another four years of what we have; in fact, it will not take that long for our country to go under. Don’t mistake – I like some of Paul’s ideals but I also think there are other candidates with those same thoughts only younger and more level-headed. My concern is that the liberal educational system in our country has brain washed our young people into thinking there is only one candidate that is so conservative/liberatarian that he is almost liberal in some ways. I’m all for old people (I am one) but maybe not as old as Paul or as young as Obama was. Sometimes Knowledge and Wisdom are world’s apart.

          • SpecialKinNJ

            Knowledge, wisdom and age, as well, may be too far apart.
            Didn’t someone once say, “Too soon old, too late smart”?

          • mickey

            Oh they spout the words ok but other than Paul, none stated the Congress has war powers, not the prez. But, at least, they are beginning to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights now.

            I guess that is what I call a leader, one whom is followed (at least in the right way this time).

          • mickey

            Paul is still not as old as the Constitution and Bill of Rights. So what is the problem? He is only the messenger.

          • kkflash

            Ron Paul’s age is one of his greatest strengths as a candidate. You see he’s too old to care about the power to be gained by the constant pandering to special interests that characterizes all the other candidates. While they’re glad-handing to gather political favors that they can later cash in on, Ron Paul will actually be working to solve our nation’s dire problems.

      • Charles

        ” I’m still searching for a candidate with Paul’s Constitutional values yet willing to have the military to keep our country from being taken over by a new world order.”

        Excuse me? The NWO is taking over by destroying our Liberty (USA Patriot Act, Indefinite Detention, etc, etc, etc). We are losing because of INTERNAL DECAY (loss of the Constitution). The NWO is succeeding by doing this and they are getting away with it by fooling people into believing that the threat is external. The external threat is no miniscule to a free country. The internal rot is what is killing us. The NWO is INTERNAL.

        Please educate yourself. Rick Perry is ONE OF THE NWO, as is every war hawk, even as they pretent they fight the NWO by falling for the external threat mythology.

        Ben Franklin said, approximately: He who gives up a little Liberty for security, deserves neither and will get neither.

        • SpecialKinNJ

          He wasn’t exactly a latter-day Benjamin Franklin, but didn’t Barry (Goldwater, that is) say “extremism in the cause of liberty is no vice”? Or something similar in meaning?

        • sorighton

          Oh Perry is a “war hawk”???? Thanks for educating me. Peace comes through strength. I would think Benjamin might have been referring to our internally libery which we certain have lost in the last three years. I’m all for LIBERTY and FREEDOM. The Iowa motto is “Our Liberties We Prize – Our Rights We Will Maintain”………..Lesson for the day.

      • mickey

        Are you confusing “liberal” with “libertarian”? A liberal wants your money to give to others. A libertarian wants you to keep your money.

      • DaveH

        Then you’re looking for the wrong candidate, sorighton. Spreading our military throughout the world, in the process impoverishing our nation, is the sure recipe for building our enemies ranks and enabling them to overrun our country someday, maybe sooner than we think.

        • sorighton

          You are SO RIGHT ON. I am still looking for a president who can walk and chew gum at the same time. I am looking for a candidate who does not have tunnel vision. I am still looking for a candidate who will keep America safe and build our economy with private sector jobs. It can be done with the right president and the right congress. Many of Paul’s ideas are fine – I just wish he had more of them extending past the borders of our country. But I digress

  • Alex

    “Previously debunked claims of racism…”?

    Debunked by who? Ron Paul? Rand Paul? David Duke?

    Look, let’s play the rube for a moment and accept that Mr Paul did not write the particular newsletter entries now causing him so much well-deserved trouble.

    It is HIS newsletter and it is HIS name on the masthead as editor. So he goes for a weekend with Dick Cheney to shoot pheasants and peasants and while away some dumb intern slips in a story that causes Paul to cringe upon his return. Where was his outrage, his embarrassment at having his good clean name linked with dirt? Not once, not twice or thrice, but over and over again.

    Bob Livingston is not accountable for the things I post on his website—he has removed some of my less-polite entries and I applaud that—but I am NOT a writer on his staff. My PLD posts, like all the others, are but letters-to-the-editor. The newsletter articles that have Mr Paul in the hot seat were just that—articles printed under a masthead that showed the Editor to be Ron Paul.

    Again, these were not isolated instabces, nor were they submissions from the public at large. These were articles for which the Editor and Publisher are responsible.

    If Mr Paul cannot exhibit good judgement with something as simple as a two-bit newsletter, how on Earth do think he can lead a country?

    The one area where Mr Paul makes sense is with regard to our bloated and nasty mercenary military. In his second term, the ineffective President Barack Hussein Obama would do well to include Mr Paul in the planning for the dismantling of the current standing armed farces.

    • mickey

      Alex, look at the YT vids made by blacks. The race card died with obama. It is time to move on.

      • Alex

        I’m not running for president.

      • Alex

        PS–I’m not playing the Race Card, m’am, I am playing the Truth and Integrity Card…..ooooh—SMACK!

        • mickey

          doesn’t matter black or not, the race card was played. Makes one crawl back into the box and not look any place else. Worked for nearly 60 yrs but blacks are wising up. Whites too.

          So which version of the interview did you watch? The altered one or the whole interview.

          Want integrity? Where is he in a white sheet throughout these years? Individual is where he is, not group think.

        • DaveH

          Alex,
          Truth is not what you spread on this board.
          What are the racist statements allegedly made by Ron Paul?
          And please, break the mold and post some references, instead of just expecting us to take the unreliable words of a Liberal.

        • DaveH

          And Alex, I’m curious to know how a Liberal thinks.
          Liberals say they don’t like war.
          Liberals say they want to be free to put whatever poisons they want in their own bodies.
          Liberals say they want to be free to have sex with whomever willing they please.
          Liberals say they want to be free to gamble away their own money.
          Ron Paul would let you do all those often foolish things. So what’s left? What is it that Ron Paul wouldn’t allow you to do that upsets you? I mean besides the fact that he wouldn’t allow you to ride on other peoples’ backs?

        • Charles

          Well at least you’re not playing the race card.

          So let’s discuss Truth and Integrity. Which one of the other candidates has them? Flip (Pick of GHWBush/CFR/RomneyObamaCare) Romney? Newt “Infidelity”/CFR Gingrinch? Hermann “Federal Reserve”/”Can’t stand the heat” Cain? Michelle “IRS lawyer”/”destroy civil liberties” Bachmann? Rick “Bomb the $#i+ out of the brown people/ world empire at any cost/destroy civil liberties” Santorum?

          How will they “lead the country”? News Flash!! It’s not the job of the president to “lead the country”, the job of the President is to uphold, defend and obey the Constitution. None these guys even know what the Constitution says. Every single one of the candidates except Ron Paul supports the destruction of civil liberties, the essence of achieving truth and integrity in the legal system. How’s that for “integrity”?

          Yet Ron Paul did not micromanage something, therefore you excoriate him. I don’t like micromanagers. Truth? Integrity? Ron Paul has these. He also has perspective. You have none of these things, nor do any of the your potential candidates.

          Or maybe you see Obama as being the bastion of truth and integrity?

          It’s obvious that you would rather live in a tyranny than not, and you are so detached you don’t even see it.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Alex,I happen to think a little racism would get us out of this mess we are now in.

      • mickey

        I think the “divide” and conquer’ is losing its appeal. Racism, religious, whatever, is not going to save us. The first thing that happened with 911 was we all united. Since then, it is divide, divide, divide.

        The fear of both sides is that we will unite under the flag, the Constitution and the BR.

  • http://verizon.net budman

    Well Bob, your love of Ron Paul is showing and your rah rah piece for him and trashing of the conservative did not impress me at all.

    You imply that everyone of the candidates except Ron Paul have to receive their instruction from the Bilderbergs is quite a stretch.

    I do agree with you on our involvement in the middle east but with a caveat. I have said many times that history should have been a warning about military involvement in the middle east. That said brings me to the one glaring problem about Ron Paul as President.
    I believe any good intelligence analyst would tell you that Iran, with an unstable President and militant cleric are dead set on obtaining nuclear weapons and then to control the entire middle east. It is more than obvious because they have stated this desire.
    We can’t be so blind not to understand this would create a critical situation if Iran controlled the flow of oil in that area and I assure you China, Russia and the United States will become involved. The New World Order group will not be a player other than financial manipulation. They haven’t been doing that well lately with their experiment in Europe falling like dominos and their hand will grow even weaker when these countries intervene to protect their economic interests.
    The truth is talking to Iran is a waste of time as dialogue will fall on their deaf ears. You then have a choice; sit back and let it happen which will result in a major conflict in that area or take the necessary steps to avoid it. My approach would be to cause internal problems within Iran to dismantle their plan to dominate the middle east. This is in conflict with Ron Paul’s theory of non involvement in other countries affairs. The wait and see attitude leading up to World War II seems to be happening again yet you want to see a man with narrow minded views to hold the highest office. Well sir, I disagree and believe you will see scenario unfold as mentioned unless action is taken very soon to prevent it.

    • Karolyn

      Watch “Thrive the Movie” at http://www.thrivemovement.com or any of the YouTube videos that can give you info about what’s really going on here.

    • DGKNJ

      I am a huge Ron Paul fan. I must also show concern about the situation regarding Iran. Ron Paul states they have never attacked anyone, as far as I know they haven’t. The US made so many enemies that the threat of a nuke in Iran is real. We have lost the chance to have a friendly relationship there(like Iran does with USSR and China). The only chance would be for the people of Iran to change course/leaders, but again, many hate the US.

      • Karolyn

        So who cares if they hate us? There is nothing we could do for them to like us. Use us, maybe, but not like us.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Budman I think you want to advance a couple of plays and get straight to WW3.

      • http://verizon.net budman

        Just the opposite friend. If you have read any of my previous statements, you will see I was firmly against our involvement in the middle east and in fact pi–ed that our government could be so stupid as to not recognize the futility of attempting change in an area that has been feuding for centuries. Being a veteran and having fought in Viet Nam, I have no taste for another war.
        What I was projecting is an opinion of what likely will happen if Iran is left to do as they please. This is as much about protection of needed resources as much as what happens if Iran attempts to control the middle east. This is their stated desire, I didn’t make this up. No, It would be great if there were no more wars but this is just wishful thinking.

    • mickey

      budman, you do realize we knew what was going on in Europe and stood down. The very thought of Hitler getting to the NWO before us (clear back to the turn of the century) and the realization that Roosevelt’s New Deal was failing was a huge impetus for us going into WWII.

      There wasn’t any “wait and see”. We knew it.

      • http://verizon.net budman

        I beg to disagree. How far had the Nazi’s advanced before we got into the fray but the United States did get involved. Other countries in Europe just didn’t want to believe they would be attacked and failed to recognize the threat.
        We were just as guilty about Pearl Harbor where many died because they ignored an alert from Australian outpost that would have given them hours to go into defensive mode.
        I had two uncles who were drafted and sent into World War II, one severely wounded and a cousin who was a prisoner of war in Korea who was about 225 pounds of solid muscle and all American athlete. He came home weighing around 80 pounds, bald or had poor eyesight. It made me angry when it was suggested I wanted to see a third world war when I know in my heart I have the opposite view. The Tet offensive in Viet Nam took a toll on me I still have horrible memories of my time there. Nobody in their right mind would wish for war. I am only expressing an opinion and I do have a background in study and analysis of other countries of the world to include the middle east. One can agree or disagree with my opinion and that is fine and I will only say time will either prove or disprove what I said.

    • DaveH

      Why does Iran hate the US? I can’t imagine:
      http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php

      Do you really think, Budman, that Iran would dare to launch a missile against the US, or even one of our allies? They’re religious fanatics, but they aren’t stupid.
      Big Government’s greatest Propaganda weapon to gain blindered followers? Fear.

  • Java

    Let’s see, WE followed the Change Vote and have none left. We voted for BUSH and were left with an empty US Treasury given to Paulson and friends to distribute as they chose to HEDGE FUNDS who focused upon stealing retirement accounts and 401k plans rather than investing in American manufacturing and productivity. They saddled investments pretending to support the financial infrastructure when they were, in actuality, shorting it.

    Now, CONGRESS has proven it doesn’t work, actually and functionally, as is, unless you understand their focus to give money away to receive kick-backs and commissions from recipients. The Judiciary, is owned by HEDGE FUNDS and cleans up after Congress using the Bankruptcy Courts to steal from Veterans and retirees: Aventine Renewable Energy, Anthracite Capital, etoys and WAMU, a track record of Judges, lawyers and US Trustees could fill an encyclopedia. It is corrupt, to sa the least.

    FINALLY, our President has a supportive following who watch and contribute to his $Billion Treasure Chest while listing all he has done to rise above the thieves and liars in Congress and the Judiciary.

    RON PAUL…willing to eliminate the salaries for life, STOP all Aid, GRANTS and Entiitlements and bring our soldiers, Ambassadors and Foreign diplomats to rebuild OUR Country while making the citizenry responsible for themselves…

    I see why THE INSIDERS are afraid !

  • Bogusbob

    Since Paul blames the US for 9/11, I couldn’t vote for this clown. If you are looking for a pot-plant in every kitchen, and open borders, and no common sense, vote for paul by all means. He has shown that he has no plan for leading this nation out of the obama mess.
    Its time he quit. If he was serious, he would be running as a libertarian, which i what he it. he couldn’t get elected to congress as one, so he switched parties. Tells me all I need to know about his loyalties.

    • Karolyn

      Not that it would happen, but wouldn’t it be great to have a pot plant in every kitchen? I don’t smoke it, but remembering back 40 years ago, it does promote peaceful feelings, which would lead to a more peaceful world. And then, of course, there’s hemp, which would turn the industrial complex on its head. Then, think of all the money that could be saved by getting rid of the DEA! Wow! less people in prison, meaning less money spent on prisons, meaning lower taxes and better education and rehabilitation. No more Mexican cartels and all the murders that go along with them. The list is endless…

    • Scott

      That’s OK BogusBob, stay asleep. We will still be here to help wake you up when you are ready to accept the truth.

      Reagan switched parties too. Did you vote for Reagan? Ron Paul is the only one who has a plan to cut 1 trillion dollars the first year and a plan to shore up social security, medicare and medicaid…where have you been? You are obviously uninformed.

      As far as open borders are concerned, you are wrong there too. As Ron Paul stated, did you ever think about the fact that other candidates want to put a fence up to keep us in instead of illegal aliens out? His plan would take away the free checks, free housing, free food stamps, free education, free health care, anchor baby policies and free zero interest business loan magnets that draw them here and that is better than any solution that has been proposed.

      When it comes to pot, what good has the war on drugs done besides rob the American people of over 1 trillion dollars since it’s inception and you can still go on any street corner and buy some pot. If pot were decriminalized tomorrow, would you start smoking it? I wouldn’t and most sane people wouldn’t either but who are you, I or the government to tell us what we can do? He thinks the federal government has no authority to regulate it, it is a state issue and it is.

      You are missing the bigger issue Bob. That is the fact that people should have the personal liberty to choose what they want to do as long as they don’t victimize or harm anyone in their pursuit of their liberty and happiness.

      Stop believing all the lies Bob. Wake up and worry about what you can control and that is you, not other people.

      • Sirian

        Scott,
        I agree with the majority of what you have said but there is one minor flaw. RP may want or plan to eliminate the problems we have, as so stated: “His plan would take away the free checks, free housing, free food stamps, free education, free health care, anchor baby policies and free zero interest business loan magnets that draw them here and that is better than any solution that has been proposed.” Great, I agree whole heartedly, yet all of this must be directed through and passed by Congress to be carried out. Under the auspices of what we have in those two houses it will be extremely difficult to see any thing along this line come to fruition. If by chance we manage to end up with a Republican House & Senate & President, yes, it is very much more possible, depending upon of course the number of RINO’s that come into office too. Even so, keep in mind, there are legions of lobbyists marching the halls of both houses, a persistent boil that will be very, very hard to get rid of, and that alone will make this that much harder to accomplish. Other than that, yes, I agree with you fully.

        • Lost in Paradise

          Sirian Ron Paul is a start, and everything begins somewhere.Correct? I think Ron Paul would be very good for this country, and would get us started in a constitutional direction. Would this not be good??

          • Sirian

            Lost in Paradise & DaveH,

            I agree with both of you, Lord do I agree. It is merely the treachery that exists within both houses of our Congress. And overcoming that is what will be necessary to accomplish what I quoted from Scott’s post. Example of such treacherous idiocy, there were but one of all of my states Reps & Senators that voted against the NDAA bill. I was dumbfounded when I saw that. Senator Coburn was the only one that voted against it. As to what the rest of our Reps and Senator Inhofe based their decision on to vote for it is totally beyond my ability to understand. Again, this is but an example of the problem RP would be up against. By following the rules and directives of our Constitution, he, if President, cannot do it solely alone. That is why I pray that we will ultimately end up with both houses under control of the Republicans (yes, I know, plenty of RINOs) but with the replacement of the bad with much more Constitutional directed minds RP could accomplish what Scott stated very easily. A tremendous amount could be accomplished to slowly, yet surely, eliminate the cancer that exists within both the halls of our Congress along with the misguided minds of our young. We owe thanks for that entirely to the Marxist/Socialist professors and High School teachers that are tenured and in full force, nation wide. Once again, I agree with both of you entirely – we MUST redirect ourselves back to what we were originally intended to be. The Progressives/Socialists/Marxists have been determined and aggressively working towards their ideological/power & control objective for basically one hundred years. If it should take us that long to shovel all of them back into a cold, cold grave, so be it. Without one iota of doubt, we would in the end be once again wrapping ourselves in the wonders of true freedom.
            My apologies to both of you for not responding quicker. Still have plenty of relatives in town . . . :)

        • DaveH

          We have to start somewhere, Sirian. By getting Ron Paul elected, we would have a national figure to expose reality to the masses of Propagandized Sheeple, who have previously been unexposed to the reality that Government has become the Biggest Gang in the land. The Politicians and their Crony Capitalists are feathering their own nests at the expense of their competitors, their consumers, and the taxpayers.
          Ron Paul is our best chance to expose that conspiracy against the people.

  • Scott

    I’m glad to see you finally caught on to Ron Paul. He is the only one I will vote for even if it means I have to write him.

    A vote for any other republican or democrat is a vote for the same thing we have had in my lifetime.

    Americans are waking up to the fact that criminals and criminal bankers as well as the CFO, bilderbergs and trilateral commission are the evil one who’s policies are implemented into law through corrupt and paid for politicians on both sides and we are sick of it.

    Ron Paul supporters are the most informed supporters of all candidates combined not to mention we are passionate about him because he speaks the truth to the American people and we are starving for truth in our government. He stands up for the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence even when he is alone.

    The alternative media has become the mainstream media and the old mainstream media outlets such as Fox, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC have become irrelevant because they have been exposed for the lies and propaganda they spew.

    Americans are waking up to the fact that the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 has allowed bankers to loot the American tax payer for the last 99 years and have turned not only the American people into slaves of debt but anywhere that they have set up central banking systems.

    I have converted my family over to Ron Paul although my Dad is still a bit weary because he hears the status quo trying to pound the message that Ron Paul is a radical and I told him that “they are right Dad, his ideas are as radical as the idea of freedom was to our forefathers and that our country needs radical change fast or we can kiss it good bye”.

    He is starting to wake up to the real fact that the is no difference in most republicans and democrats and that they all corrupt with the exception of Ron Paul.

    I also asked him if he thought it was a coincidence that Ron Paul is leading in Iowa and New Hampshire and that it wasn’t because he has changed his message but because the people were waking up to his message?

    I could go on and on here but I will close by saying that Ron Paul is on record as saying that if he is elected President, he will only accept as a salary the average American medium income which is about $39,999.00 per year and not the $400,000 per year we pay our President and that in and of itself should prove to people that he is in it to do what he can to better America and the American people instead of what America can do for him.

    If America want real change and true Liberty for all, we must vote Ron Paul in as President in 2012.

    • DaveH

      Very good, Scott.
      However, I wish you wouldn’t lump Fox in with the rest of the Main Stream Propagandists. Fox Business Network, with its bevy of Freedom Fighters such as Judge Napolitano, John Stossel, Eric Bolling, and David Asman, is the only place I know of on TV where a person can be exposed to the Truth about Big Government.

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    Ron Paul would make a Monkey out of Obamanation, Ron Paul has been ignored by the News Media for a reason he is the Strongest candidate that we have with the best conservative record by far and the New Communist Party dosen’t want anything to do with Ron Paul. He has the only plan for balancing the budget, auditing the Federal Reserve and getting rid of Government Agencies that will save a Trillion Dollars, reducing Taxes,eliminating the I.R.S. and saving Social Security and getting rid of 40 MILLION ILLEGAL’S in this Country thereby freeing up 12-20 Million JOB’S, this will save $500 Billion that is being spent on Illegal’s. I would like to see Bachmann as V.P..

    • Scott

      The problem with Bachmann is that she voted for NDAA and the Patriot act.

      • DaveH

        Michelle Bachmann is just another of the Military Statist lineup in the Republican Presidential Candidacy.

  • dusterdog

    When it comes to Ron Paul I see a person I believe is honest and will do his best to run the country as I would run it myself if I were in charge.So why would I vote for anyone else?

  • sorighton

    Congress gets and takes the blame for nothing being done but we have to remember Congress is the President. Harry and the Senate are run by the President. Not sure who is running the President but I have my thoughts on that as well. In other words our country is being run by somebody or something (we do not know who or what) while the voters are begging for more “Please let me have another two months of tax freedom”… Next we will have to beg for another two months? Then another two months? Before we know it, we will have to beg for food. The House has no power to do anything, yet they get blamed. Whoever is running our country right now has we voters just where they want us………I don’t know which candidate can get us headed back in the direction we need to go but I’m pretty sure it can’t be a candidate who concentrates only between our borders. We must deal with world affairs whether we want to or not. I’m hoping for a candidate who can walk and chew gum at the same time – usually it is a Governor who has done it. I’m leaning toward Perry right now.

    • Scott

      Perry in a builderberg member. I wouldn’t vote for anyone who signed into law a bill that gives illegal aliens a $100,000 college tuition tax break but your kids nor mine or any other American born citizen can’t get but have to pay for it.

      No thanks.

      • sorighton

        Not sure you have your facts all straight but anyway, if the tuition thing is the only problem with Perry I could handle that. He is in a border state with a lot of experience handling it. Every candidate has problems (even Paul) so I’m just trying to find the one with the least……in comparison to what we have now the bar is pretty low. He has been re-elected three times and the longest serving Governor – that tells me he can’t be too bad.

        • mickey

          No the bar is very high, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, or NWO. It is just that simple. We either remain a soverign country or become part of the NWO.

          You can find more information on Paul at dailypaul or go to his web site, view the vids on YT.

        • Don the Canuck

          Sorighton,

          Consider this. Perry thanked Ron Paul in a debate recenrtly for assisting him/getting him interested in understanding the economic situation and the role of the FED.

          America right now is being destroyed because it has lost its financial might. The strength of a country can only be held by a strong economy. Right now China is in that position. America can only get back to where it was by turning around its economy. Perry simply does not have the knowledge sufficient to make that happen. Ron Paul has been warning about exactly what was going to happen since the late 80′s, and has had more than sufficient time to figure out how to turn things around.

          At this point in American history, it is more important to have someone who can turn around the economy to make America financially strong again, thereby also being able to defend itself from a position of strength. Perry may not be that person. Ron Paul cannot be bought and will follow through with his beliefs, which are in the interest of the people, not the corporations that have effectively purchased your gov’ts for the last 40 years or so, thereby making America what it is today. It has been picked clean for the last 30 years and is now weak through wars and warmongering, foreign aid and mal-investment, government intervention on all fronts of the population’s lives, etc…

          It needs true leadership by conviction and commitment to what made it great……….personal responsibility and creativity as well as entrepreneurship. Anyone who can be bought by a lobbyist cannot offer this to the people. Ron Paul can. He understands monetary policy like no other candidate. He understand that true freedom is what makes people want to succeed and move forward. Of course, those who want to hold their hands out as opposed to lifting up their sleeves will be left behind. So, what is the downside? Must all those who strive for success have the burden of carrying those who are not willing to make the effort?

          Ron Paul can at least wake up enough people to try to turn things around as he has the knowledge of how to do so. How about America tries it for once with someone who is truly committed to the right document?………….namely……The Constitution

        • Susie4Liberty

          Oh My… Please talk to Texans who’ve fought him on vital/URGENT issues – for years and years. And his “Handlers” have managed to stuff his pockets as they’ve kicked us to the Curb.

          I live in an Amnesty City; our Border is wide-open to Mexican truckers… We have a MASSIVE Superhwy system throughout this State -even if the guv SWORE it was not happening…

          If the TRUTH were discussed, we’d know our Beloved Country is a member of the North American Union – and the United Nations is soon to be acknowledged as our Governing Body.

          “Some” of us are working to REVERSE that. Please join us:
          RON PAUL 2012

        • Bill

          sorry, but anyone who would mandate that little girls be given “medicine” by the state operated dictator does not have the right morality to be a leader of anyone. Including the state of Texas.

        • http://verizon.net budman

          sorighton; If what you are wondering whether Perry was a Bilderberg attendee in questioning what Scott said, I saw the list of attendees and his name is there. He has refused to answer the news media twice now as to why his name is on the list. Only he can answer why he attended and believe he should if he wants to disassociate himself from this group.

    • mickey

      Ron Paul says one has a right to put whatever into your body, suffer the consequences of your choice. However, Perry MANDATED (as well as CA) Guardisil. Look up the seizures, the maiming, the after effects of this drug mandate.

      I don’t want 25 vaccines, many of which I’ve never heard of, being a MANDATE for any kid wanting to go to school. A kid in my state, can’t learn because I refuse to vaccinate (at birth) a hep B????

      • DaveH

        Yep. And the standard excuse of the vaccination Forcers is that your unvaccinated kid is a danger to the others. But if the vaccination is indeed effective, how can a non-vaccinated kid be a danger to anybody who hasn’t refused it?
        It is simply yet another example of how Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.

        • sorighton

          That is exactly why I like Governors for presidential candidates. They have had the experience of mistakes and normally admit to them. Congress people have not had that opportunity. I believe Perry has said that was a mistake on his part. I admire him for that = he seems to be a very common man – much like Paul. I think in ways they are much alike.

          • DaveH

            What did you expect Perry to say “Yeah, I’m a control freak who doesn’t give a lick about your life or your Freedom”?

  • Tazio2013

    The first myth to dispense with is that the GOP is a conservative political party. The millions of registered Republican voters, that truly want a genuine conservative to lead this nation, are disappointed with every election cycle. The idiots that emerge as the standard-bearer of the legacy of Abraham Lincoln, are would be despots, wrapped in the flag of a failed empire. The comic performances in the arena of staged debates, just proves that the party of NeoCons, deserves trouncing into the ground of their blood stained soil. Only Ron Paul has the dignity and courage to claim the consent of the public and lead a revolution that dismantles centralized government. So why won’t rank and file Republicans demand that the Grand Old Party go to battle against the forces of the New World Order?

    http://batr.org/reactionary/111311.html

    • dusterdog

      tazio ahmen to that

    • Scott

      Well Said Tazio!

    • Susie4Liberty

      You mean there’s actually supposed to be a DIFFERENCE between the 2 “parties”?! During debate on extending the UNPatriotic Act? Was when I had the full realization they’re the SAME…have the same Agenda – save for a good few ppl TRYING to stand in our Stead!

  • Ann J

    I’m sorry, but I think many of you are missing a very important detail here. The Iranians are Muslim fanatics. So are the other muslim countries in the middle east. I realize, going in, that the Pakis have nukes, and I hope to goodness that India stays non-muslim and can stay one step ahead of them, although that looks unlikely what with the muslim M.O. (our way or the highway, and once they have a majority, or a near-majority in any country they take over with extreme violence). But to allow the Iranian madmen to have nukes? That is really madness. And not to help our only real allie in the middle east (Israel, of course)? Unthinkable. Dr. Paul seems to me to be either a guy who can’t think outside his own little world, or someone who is delusional. We don’t dare become isolationist – - please think about it. Iran does not care whether it lives or dies – - theirs is a death cult. Critical thinking is required here. I understand that many of you really believe in Dr.Paul, but please try to see what his reign would do to the U.S. Also, realize that he will never have a “reign,” because he can’t beat the Big 0. We need to all concentrate, for now, on someone who CAN win. After that, we can work on getting our country back. Just my thoughts.

    • dusterdog

      Ann J you have bought into their propaganda fully havn’t you?

      • http://verizon.net budman

        No dusterdog, she is one of those who understands the probability of future course of actions by Iran and Ron Paul does need to rethink his position on this, otherwise, he will fall by the wayside.

        If you look at the polls across the nation, you will find Paul likely will not be the nominee as there are more who are wary of him than those for him. I am not going to take the view of many Ron Paul supporters and say I won’t vote if he isn’t the nominee. In fact, I will vote for him if he somehow manages to win nomination because anybody would be better than what we have now.

    • Karolyn

      Why on Earth does Israel need our help??? THEY SIMPLY DO NOT! And who do you think CAN win the Presidency other than Obama? You really can’t believe that is Rommney or Perry can you? It really is time that everyone starts thinking outside the box and see things as they really are and not as we have been led to believe they are. Do you really believe that the powers-that-be in Iran want to die? I think not. They may profess Islam, but they are all for themselves living in luxury and care not if their underlings die. They just want to be in with the “big dogs” in having nuclear capability.

    • Scott

      Ann,

      The are fantics because they are tired of Americans bombing them and killing innocent men, women and children.

      Ron Paul is the only who thinks “out of the box” and being we have been bombing and meddling in the affairs of the middle east for over 40 years, we need to try a different approach…like peace and friendship for a change.

      Ron Paul is right when he says the only nation we need to be building is America. America and our people need help and Ron Paul will deliver. He is not an isolationist.

      If you want the perpetual wars to continue, then by all means, vote for any other candidate other than Ron Paul because that is what your vote will get. More wars, more looting of the American tax payers and martial law that they are setting up now with NDAA. If you don’t about NDAA, I highly suggest you Google it and inform yourself.

    • mickey

      Umm do the Iranians speak Arabic, the language of Islam? Saudi Arabia does.

      So far, in such a short time, obama has overthrown some bad people only to support the really bad people–Muslim Brotherhoods.

      Check out Odinga. If I am not mistaken, this leads back to obama.

      As far as Israel, this is a religious war. We didn’t bomb Ireland when the Catholics and Protestans were fighting.

    • DaveH

      Ann is another of those who has bought into the War is Peace Propaganda.

      Ron Paul is NOT isolationist. He is a Non-interventionist. Rather than trying to beat people into accepting us as their friends, he takes the much more logical course of trading freely with other countries:
      http://defenseofcapitalism.blogspot.com/2011/03/practicing-principles-of-non.html

  • Robert, TX

    Way to go, Bob! The people of Iowa have a real opportunity to show the rest of the nation that liberty-starved patriots will not go quietly, without a fight. I loved your article, until I got near the end, and you loaded it up with facts – that will drive the FOXbots, and the double-dippers out of their minds. Go Ron Paul!

  • Ltjg

    From traveling all over the Country and associating with people in all our Military Branches, I have yet to speak with any that will admitt to supporting Ron Paul. I am sure there are some, but I have not come across any yet. I wonder what age bracket these people are?

    • mickey

      Pretty much all ages. They aren’t pacisfists, then just want to do their job–right.

    • DaveH
      • Ltjg

        As I said earlier, I have yet to meet just one on any of the Military Bases I frequent any where all over the Country.

        • DaveH

          Maybe they’re afraid of repercussions. I would be if I worked on a military base. That’s why we have secret ballots.

  • AZKurt

    Ron Paul has some good ideas and it is envigorating to see someone so old get youthful and youthful-thinking voters engerized. But we allowed MTV, Nickelodeon, Kids-choice Awards to pick our last president. The ideas that are admirable from Paul have an equal number of looney tune notions about international policy, defense and drugs that ENSURE he will never be president of these United States. I think he’d make a great Mayor of Amersterdam. BTW I am not thrilled with ANY of the GOP front runners

    • DaveH

      Ron Paul’s International Policy? Trade with other nations instead of warring against them.
      Ron Paul’s Defense Policy? Defend our own country rigorously. Leave the other countries alone.
      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/
      Ron Paul’s Drug Policy? Get the Federal Government out of the issue altogether. It is not the Federal Government’s role to stop people from harming themselves.
      The Drug Wars, whether Federal or State Jurisdictions, have been a colossal 40-year failure. Read the link in my next comment to make some sense out of Drug Prohibition.

  • Bill

    Ron Paul The savior of America.and to insure he wont be assinated Jessie Ventura as V.P.

  • Insurgent

    We need a good business person who can beat the lying chigger from Mombasa, Kenya !!!

  • JCA

    Folks…Please read and understand,Use a little perception and logic. Ron Paul IS NOT A REPUBLICAN in any aspect of the word! That is a lie. He should be truthful and admit he is a Libertarian, period. His arguments make no sense in this modern world. We cannot ignore the rest of the world. He sounds like a crazy man and looks and acts like one. To vote for him is the same as voting for Obama again. Use your heads. Newt is the only candidate who is even remotely qualified to lead this nation. Think about it.

    • Scott

      Whatever….Newt? Yea right.

    • mickey

      so to be a repub one has to be a neo-con or one is not invited to the “club”?

      Yes, Paul is a Libertarian, not liberal. About as much interchangeability as “isolation” and “non-intervention”.

    • mickey

      Yep, think about it. Newt and Pelosi don’t exactly love each other but she is chomping at the bit to expose him. Blackmail? lol, she and Watters were in on the ethics thing.

    • Robert, TX

      Thank goodness! If Ron Paul was a wimpering, lying, gutless, eunuch like little johnny and mealy-mouth mitch – I would not support him. The republican party has settled firmly back in the center of its liberal, Rockefeller roots – the same roots that gave us King George I and King George II. Ron Paul does represent the values of Bob Taft and Barry Goldwater – the original patriots that came before him.

    • John Gould

      Newt Gingrich is scum of the earth and you are either high, brainwashed, misinformed or mentally retarded. Newt can answer a question correctly and turn around and take money to do the opposite. That proves that he is not just a bad person but intentionally evil. If he is the ONLY choice for president get your rifles boys cause there’s going to be Chinese troops on this land very soon.

    • AZKurt

      When RP doesnt win as Republican, he will run as an independent, then a libertarian and finally as his true-self is revealed – a martian. When I see candidates change their party-affiliation to suit THEIR OWN egotistical desire to achieve an office it makes me sick [and it should bother you too] AND in case you hadnt noticed – IT MEANS THEY STAND FOR BOTH ANYTHING AND SIMULTANEOUSLY NOTHING.

      • mickey

        Well, there was a choice. 3rd party just took votes from one party or the other. So he changed parties, the supposingly more conservative party. And now that party wants him out (to drain votes?) because he is for basic values based upon a couple of old documents that got in the way of Bush and obama.

        What is more conservative than these old documents?

      • Karolyn

        Party affiliation should be the last thing one thinks about. What’s important is the person and their own beliefs.

      • DaveH

        By all means, Kurt, you should vote only for the dyed-in-the-wool establishment Republicans whose main goal is their own Power and Perks. The rest of us be damned.

    • DaveH

      You’re right, JCA, the Republicans are the ones who brought us Crony Capitalism, the very thing our founders fought a revolution to stop. The Republicans have brought us the failed 40-year Drug Wars which have succeeded only in enriching the Drug Lords, the worst segment of Society. Mexico is bearing the brunt of that folly. The Republicans have brought us Vice-Crimes, i.e. punishing people for victimless crimes, harming only themselves. The Republicans have brought us gestapo-like police raids around the country, often killing or terrorizing innocent homeowners:
      http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

      We should encourage Ron Paul to run outside of that Immoral collection of hypocrites. Let that party die the natural death that it deserves.

    • JC

      JCA says:
      December 26, 2011 at 9:00 am
      Folks…Please read and understand,Use a little perception and logic. Ron Paul IS NOT A REPUBLICAN in any aspect of the word! That is a lie. He should be truthful and admit he is a Libertarian,
      _____________________________________________________________________

      The Founding Fathers that gave us a Constitutionally limited Republic were by definition Libertarians.
      Ergo: Ron Paul’s Libertarian beliefs are the definition of “Republican”

      It’s the Republican party that is not Republican…and that includes Newt (for sale) Gingrich.

  • Yvonne Robinson

    This article on Ron Paul is as bad as Ron Paul’s views on foreign policy.
    I am unsubscribing. I don’t want this trip coming through.
    Ron Paul may be a nice man, but to run a country, you have to have a realistic view of the dangers in the world. More so now than ever.

    • mickey

      And who put those dangers on our shore?

      If I go to my neighbor brandishing a shotgun, you think he shouldn’t question why I brought it? For how many yrs am I supposed to get by with this before he too will purchase a gun? And then it will be, who started the fight.

      You do remember the US is the only one which has used nukes?

    • John Gould

      Wake up. His time has come. If you are not voting for Ron Paul then you are voting for four more years of the same. Can WE take another four years of tax and spend and country bullying? Do you want a war with china? Because that’s what’s coming. It will not be televised on CNN. You will get a front row seat because that show will be playing HERE. Pay attention, sir. There is an 800 lb gorilla in the room and it’s time WE THE PEOPLE remember why we left imperialism behind so long ago. Unsubscribe if you want to but I hope you get informed somewhere. Nothing is more conservative than conserving your strength and military might.

    • DaveH

      Like your realistic view, Yvonne?
      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    • Jude

      Maybe b/c you you have a family name of mine, too, I trlate my thoughts from many I have known including Robinsons.I do understand the position that the U. S. as its founders and patriotic followers since declare that we should be independent and therefore allow that to other nations in mutual respect with equal status.
      However, when a special interest group, World Zionism pushed the UN to create a Jewish state in lands Palestinian natives had known as their own for 1000s of years, just as the Brits designated boundaries still disputed between India and Pakistan, and others, I understand why Ron Paul questions our placing Israel preferentially above their land ownership. We do have a long kinship with Jews from biblical times, also transformed by Christian doctrines,
      Strange as this might sound to some I know a UCLA prof. who proselytizes
      for that cause, UN directors who opposed planting Israel arbitrarily in Palestine,
      Defense Dep’t. Directors who do not like having it up to us to defend Europe or any territory because the huge # of actions and expense we have to take the world over where the people we protect have often been resentful of us nanny states, Europe, for one, whereas Israel realized their taking over arbitrary territory from its beginning required a defense. Did Jews everywhere really need a nation, to be a place to sew seeds of resentment for their modern intrusion into the Palestinian territory? Maybe we need to let China take over our country as many of our Indians came from there,
      or we should not have fought Japan b/c the Blackfoot Indians came from there. Clearly, we need a fair, just and Godly benevolence in our country, since our administration sees our country as neither fair or just, yet supports with our taxes dictatorships in Muslim countries. Just stirring the stew of thought. IMHO, we
      need to withdraw as Ron Paul now and Washington advised from foreign interference.

  • Kay

    Why do we allow North Korea “THE” bomb? The leadership there is questionable. We are experiencing heavy propaganda by the news and so called conservative talk show hosts. Ask the only One who knows for wisdom. Our country was founded on HIS principles. Our fore fathers went to scripture to design our government and it works really well and has been proven so. Stick to the constitution. It’s the best we have. Listen to deToqueville… he said if America stops being good she stops being great. We need to examine our own lives and get back to basics. Stop sinning and do the things the Almighty says to do.

  • Ann J

    Scott and others: I do know what I’m talking about where the muslims are concerned. The minute we start showing even more love and peace than we already have with that awful obama, they will move in and take over. True. They see peacefulness and reaching out as weakness. Read their “holy book” sometime (reading it in arabic is best, because then you don’t get any games and lies such as the ones in the english translations) and start shaking in your boots. That outfit believes they are meant to rule the world, one way or another, and to ring in the age of their “mahdi” who will come on back when they cause enough strife and trouble. true. read it and weep. Dr. Paul has no clue.

    • JCA

      Very well said…

      • Anthony

        If you’re brainwashed!

    • DaveH

      They’ve killed about 4,000 of our citizens in our own country.
      We’ve killed a couple of hundred thousand of their citizens in their own country.
      I’m quaking in my boots all right, but it’s not out of fear of Muslims.

  • mickey

    Do Iranians speak Arabic?

    Could you please identify who (which Bush) started this NWO thing.

    There are some major powers lining up to be the leaders of the NWO. Sleeping giants like Russia and China are very big in this mix. Just as the US thwarted Hitler, they will thwart us. Iran is a minor player.

  • http://PersonalLibertyNews DaveDe

    Ron Paul is about as conservative as the fraud in the White House.Some of his ideas, like legalizing drugs and cutting back the military, are scary,not to mention just plain stupid. The sooner he’s out of the race, the better.

    • Alex

      Those are the ONLY two things Paul DOES make sense about!

      • DaveH

        And you make no sense on the rest.

    • dusterdog

      Dave you love a warmongering country like the USA I take it.But I bet you would be the first to say lets don’t spank those kids in school so they will do whats right.Right Dave.

    • Robert, TX

      Dave, if you would actually read Ron Paul’s plan (and stop watching FOX “news” or the Ailes Video Digest) you would see that defense spending is NOT cut at all. This, combined with bringing thousands of our troops home, means that more money is available for necessary training, equipment and morale – which Ron Paul has promised to address. Read his plan, and if you still think Romney is better go for it.

    • DaveH

      Sure, DaveDe, we should continue the Perpetual Wars for Peace (an oxymoron), and the 40-years failed Drug Wars which have accomplished nothing but enriching the Drug Lords and allowing Big Government an excuse to trample our Constitutional rights.

  • steve in AZ

    Dear Mr. Livingston,

    “Branstad and his elite bedfellows are trying to draw you into an alternate universe.”

    The “alternate universe” might more accurately be described as an “anti-civilization” imho, and we and the balance of the world already exist there. We can no longer be drawn into it as there is no place else for us to exist until we create a new civilization based on liberty, as Dr. Paul advocates.

    You may feel that I am playing semantic games, yet I feel my description is the more accurate.

    Wonderful article, nonetheless, and please know that I greatly appreciate the work you do here. And, :) let’s not forget to

    DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

    • sorighton

      May be a good article by Mr. Livingston but his facts are a little bit off. I think you call it “wrong”…………

      • DaveH

        sorighton, if you’re going to say somebody is wrong, the proper course of action is to tell us where and why you feel you are correct, hopefully providing evidence to support your case.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/epa-announces-rules-for-oil-and-coal-plants-800669060/?eiid= William L Collins

    i changed from a dem to repub just to vote fore RON PAUL because iam one vet that does not want to be told buy our government what i can buy can go can live what i can have i can eat i servied in countrys that had military law and a ploice state and the people where at there mercy and i do not thank any vet, or veteran whether black, brown,red, yellow, or race wants to live that way thats not what we all fought fore we did not fight for the new world order we fought for freedom and rights fore the people now if you people want too live in the new world order you can vote for obama but if you want too live in a free world and freedoms and rights you will need to vote RON PAUL to start taken back our freedoms and bill of rights back who cares what other countrys do as long as they leave us alone but if they cant we take them out and the best way is to stop all forien aide SO VOTE RON PAUL 2012

    • DaveH

      Thank you, William.

    • Robert, TX

      Amen, William! And God bless you. Keep telling your story! There are millions upon millions of patriotic democrats who work hard; pay their taxes; and obey the laws, and the only reason they have not formally left the democrat party is they have not seen a real alternative – Ron Paul (and other patriots) ARE the alternative to the lying RINOS.

  • David in MA

    Could the fear be that if Ron Paul should become President the earmarks would not be rubber stamped…..for BOTH parties.
    p.s.All you people who are uncertain about Ron Paul because he is a Libertarian, well you should have been more concerned about the islamic socialist you elected last time but weren’t.
    Ron Paul’s record speaks for Ron Paul and obozo’s record speaks for obozo…..four years of obozo have been a disaster and Ron Paul will have to have many good people around him to straighten out the disaster obozo has infected America with. obozo has set America on a path of complete failure with no chance of recovery……’THUNDERDOME” MIGHT BECOME MORE THAN A MOVIE IF OBOZO AND HIS AGENDA CONTINUE.

  • Alex

    What a disappointment President Barack Hussein Obama has been to the thinking and lively people of the Left!
    But we can’t have Bernie Sanders and we can’t have Barbara Boxer and we can’t have Dennis Kucinich…..
    So, we get Obama for four more years. Dang….Maybe he’ll stand up for once…

    But you Reich Wingers, as much as it hurts, have gotta be thinking, “You know, I don’t really like Obama, he’s just another mainstream Capitalist like Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan…nothing special, but still—
    —he didn’t give up on finding bin Laden, like Bush did, and he has deported more illegal aliens than all other presidents COMBINED and he is trying to keep jobs in this country, unlike all of the Kandidates in the Klown Kar the GOP has trotted out. And, hey, he did press for the payroll tax extension that will buy a lot of groceries, unlike the GOP, who wanted to buy a LOT of groceries for billionaires…..”

    Yeah, you probably don’t think that way. But you should.

    I am not so happy with Mr Obama, as you can tell, but some of the Supremes are getting pretty old, and we sure cannot let the Reich Wing fill any more slots. Heck, that activist Roberts Court might just say it’s okay for CORPORATIONS to marry dogs and carry concealed weapons!!

    • mickey

      You still think bin Laden, the one on dialysis, could survive ten yrs without treatment? Do you know anyone that has lived that long even with treatment?

      Clinton’s first words were “bin Laden” when the Towers went down. Clinton was the first not to have him detained even when offered. Look at the mess we’re in over 1 man. I hardly think bin Laden was the threat.

    • DaveH

      Hitler was Socialist. He, like the Liberals, wanted to force his agenda on the rest of his countrymen. If anybody deserves the moniker “Reich”, it would be you and your fellow Liberals, Alex.
      And where do you think the payroll tax breaks come from, Alex? They come from everybody who will have to pay the National Debt eventually. There is no Free Lunch. So, a special class of people will benefit at everybody else’s expense. Typical Liberal behavior.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Wrong DaveH,

        Myth: Hitler was a leftist
        The true question is not whether Hitler called his party “socialist,” but whether or not it actually was. In fact, socialism has never been tried at the national level …
        http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm – Cached

    • Jay

      Considering his contempt towards public opinion, and his insistence on imposing his far-left agenda, Obama seems to be aware that his window of opportunity is closing. Like the simpleton in the glass booth at the carnival grasping for dollar bills swirling around him, he’s scrambling for whatever he can get his hands on in his last year in office.

      His vacations, which are hallmark, do nothing to change that perception. The endless golf games, and extravagant outings, an effort to make the best of a good situation, no doubt.

      As a young man, Obama, no doubt dreamed the possibility of one day occupying the White House, but he could never have imagined the heavy responsibilities and suffocating demands of that office. His aversion to press conferences, his inane moments behind tele-prompters, his vacation addiction, his immature handling of the Gitmo detainees, the abject indecisiveness he demonstrated regarding the troop surge in Afghanistan, all point to a simple man who is lost, and who is simply over his head. And despite his unbridled arrogance, he knows it. And he knows that he may not be able to tread water for another four years. So sad…Enter Ron Paul!

      • Alex

        Who’s not listening to the people?

        Upwards of 70 per cent on every poll, EVEN those of Republicans, say they want the wealthy to pay their fair share.

  • bob

    I am voting for Ron Paul.!! Why? Because He is not the usual ioiot we have to choose from, he is a new kind of idiot. And I am tired of the same old idiots.

  • Mark Are

    I am convinced that the problem lies within the article I have posted below. We are controlled by PSYCHOPATHS.

    The following is largely extracted from two articles:

    Twilight of the Psychopaths, by Dr. Kevin Barrett and The Trick of the Psychopath’s Trade by Silvia Cattori. Both articles are recommended.(Google them) Both articles reference the book Political Ponerology: A science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes, by Andrzej Lobaczewski. Cattori’s article is longer and includes an interview with the book’s editors, Laura Knight-Jadczyk and Henry See.

    I make the effort to share this information because it gives me, at last, a plausible answer to a long-unanswered question: Why, no matter how much intelligent goodwill exists in the world, is there so much war, suffering and injustice? It doesn’t seem to matter what creative plan, ideology, religion, or philosophy great minds come up with, nothing seems to improve our lot. Since the dawn of civilization, this pattern repeats itself over and over again.

    The answer is that civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been built on slavery and mass murder. Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, cheat, steal, torture, manipulate, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse, in order to establish their own sense of security through domination. The inventor of civilization – the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers – was almost certainly a genetic psychopath. Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies – especially military hierarchies.

    Behind the apparent insanity of contemporary history, is the actual insanity of psychopaths fighting to preserve their disproportionate power. And as their power grows ever-more-threatened, the psychopaths grow ever-more-desperate. We are witnessing the apotheosis of the overworld – the overlapping criminal syndicates that lurk above ordinary society and law just as the underworld lurks below it.

    During the past fifty years, psychopaths have gained almost absolute control of all the branches of government. You can notice this if you observe carefully that no matter what illegal thing a modern politician does, no one will really take him to task. All of the so called scandals that have come up, any one of which would have taken down an authentic administration, are just farces played out for the public, to distract them, to make them think that the democracy is still working.

    One of the main factors to consider in terms of how a society can be taken over by a group of pathological deviants is that the psychopaths’ only limitation is the participation of susceptible individuals within that given society. Lobaczewski gives an average figure for the most active deviants of approximately 6% of a given population. (1% essential psychopaths and up to 5% other psychopathies and characteropathies.) The essential psychopath is at the center of the web. The others form the first tier of the psychopath’s control system.

    The next tier of such a system is composed of individuals who were born normal, but are either already warped by long-term exposure to psychopathic material via familial or social influences, or who, through psychic weakness have chosen to meet the demands of psychopathy for their own selfish ends. Numerically, according to Lobaczewski, this group is about 12% of a given population under normal conditions.

    So approximately 18% of any given population is active in the creation and imposition of a Pathocracy. The 6% group constitutes the Pathocratic nobility and the 12% group forms the new bourgeoisie, whose economic situation is the most advantageous.

    When you understand the true nature of psychopathic influence, that it is conscienceless, emotionless, selfish, cold and calculating, and devoid of any moral or ethical standards, you are horrified, but at the same time everything suddenly begins to makes sense. Our society is ever more soulless because the people who lead it and who set the example are soulless – they literally have no conscience.

    In his book Political Oenology, Andrej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests), psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want. In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies. The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths. Since psychopaths have no limitations on what they can or will do to get to the top, the ones in charge are generally pathological. It is not power that corrupts, it is that corrupt individuals seek power.

    How can we distinguish between psychopaths and healthy people? What is the portrait of a true psychopath?

    Such a dangerous question has almost never been successfully asked. The reason is because we mistakenly confuse healthy for normal. Human psychological diversity is the health of our race. There is no normal because healthy humans continuously evolve beyond all normalizing standards. The terrorism of searching through hierarchies for anyone deviating from normal is no different from witch hunts or Inquisitions. You must remember that hierarchies thrive on such low dramas, torturing victims until they confess to evil beliefs. Not so long ago the church and state ongoingly acquired significant income and property through witch hunts and Inquisitions. This continued for over two hundred and fifty years. Ten generations of Europeans understood pogrom as normal life. Let us not return to that nightmare. Testing for normal is guaranteed to backfire in our face. There is no normal. But there is conscience.

    We have very little empirical evidence to support the idea that true psychopathy is the result of an abused childhood, and much empirical evidence to support that it is genetic. The neurobiological model offers us the greatest hope of being able to identify even the most devious psychopath. Other recent studies lead to similar results and conclusions: that psychopaths have great difficulty processing verbal and nonverbal affective (emotional) material, that they tend to confuse the emotional significance of events, and most importantly, that these deficits show up in brain scans! A missing internal connection between the feeling heart and the thinking brain is detectable.

    Psychopaths are incapable of authentic deep emotions. In fact, when Robert Hare, a Canadian psychologist who spent his career studying psychopathy, did brain scans on psychopaths while showing them two sets of words, one set of neutral words with no emotional associations and a second set with emotionally charged words, while different areas of the brain lit up in the non-psychopathic control group, in the psychopaths, both sets were processed in the same area of the brain, the area that deals with language. They did not have an emotional reaction until they intellectually concluded that it would be better if they had one, and then they whipped up an emotional response just for show.

    The simplest, clearest and truest portrait of the psychopath is given in the titles of three seminal works on the subject: Without Conscience by Robert Hare, The Mask of Sanity by Hervey Cleckley, and Snakes in Suits by Robert Hare and Paul Babiak. A psychopath is exactly that: conscienceless. The most important thing to remember is that this lack of conscience is hidden from view behind a mask of normality that is often so convincing that even experts are deceived. As a result, psychopaths become the Snakes in Suits that control our world.

    Psychopaths lack a sense of remorse or empathy with others. They can be extremely charming and are experts at using talk to charm and hypnotize their prey. They are also irresponsible. Nothing is ever their fault; someone else or the world at large is always to blame for all of their problems or their mistakes. Martha Stout, in her book The Sociopath Next Door, identifies what she calls the pity ploy. Psychopaths use pity to manipulate. They convince you to give them one more chance, and to not tell anyone about what they have done. So another trait – and a very important one – is their ability to control the flow of information.

    They also seem to have little real conception of past or future, living entirely for their immediate needs and desires. Because of the barren quality of their inner life, they are often seeking new thrills, anything from feeling the power of manipulating others to engaging in illegal activities simply for the rush of adrenaline.

    Another trait of the psychopath is what Lobaczewski calls their special psychological knowledge of normal people. They have studied us. They know us better than we know ourselves. They are experts in knowing how to push our buttons, to use our emotions against us. But beyond that, they even seem to have some sort of hypnotic power over us. When we begin to get caught up in the web of the psychopath, our ability to think deteriorates, gets muddied. They seem to cast some sort of spell over us. It is only later when we are no longer in their presence, out of their spell, that the clarity of thought returns and we find ourselves wondering how it was that we were unable to respond or counter what they were doing.

    Psychopaths learn to recognize each other in a crowd as early as childhood, and they develop an awareness of the existence of other individuals similar to themselves. They also become conscious of being of a different world from the majority of other people surrounding them. They view us from a certain distance.

    Think about the ramifications of this statement: Psychopaths are, to some extent, self-aware as a group even in childhood! Recognizing their fundamental difference from the rest of humanity, their allegiance would be to others of their kind, that is, to other psychopaths.

    Their own twisted sense of honor compels them to cheat and revile non-psychopaths and their values. In contradiction to the ideals of normal people, psychopaths feel breaking promises and agreements is normal behavior.

    Not only do they covet possessions and power and feel they have the right to them just because they exist and can take them, but they gain special pleasure in usurping and taking from others; what they can plagiarize, swindle, and extort are fruits far sweeter than those they can earn through honest labor. They also learn very early how their personalities can have traumatizing effects on the personalities of non-psychopaths, and how to take advantage of this root of terror for purposes of achieving their goals.

    So now, imagine how human beings who are totally in the dark about the presence of psychopaths can be easily deceived and manipulated by these individuals, gaining power in different countries, pretending to be loyal to the local populations while at the same time playing up obvious and easily discernable physical differences between groups (such as race, skin color, religion, etc). Psychologically normal humans would be set against one another on the basis of unimportant differences (think of Rwanda 1994, think of Israelis and Palestinians) while the deviants in power, with a fundamental difference from the rest of us, a lack of conscience, an inability to feel for another human being, reaped the benefits and pulled the strings.

    We are seeing the final desperate power-grab or endgame (Alex Jones) of brutal, cunning gangs of CIA drug-runners and President-killers; money-laundering international bankers and their hit-men – economic and otherwise; corrupt military contractors and gung-ho generals; corporate predators and their political enablers; brainwashers and mind-rapists euphemistically known as psy-ops and PR specialists – in short, the whole crew of certifiable psychopaths running our so-called civilization. And they are running scared.

    Why does the Pathocracy fear it is losing control? Because it is threatened by the spread of knowledge. The greatest fear of any psychopath is of being found out.

    Psychopaths go through life knowing that they are completely different from other people. Deep down they know something is missing in them. They quickly learn to hide their lack of empathy, while carefully studying others’ emotions so as to mimic normalcy while cold-bloodedly manipulating the normals.

    Today, thanks to new information technologies, we are on the brink of unmasking the psychopaths and building a civilization of, by and for the healthy human being – a civilization without war, a civilization based on truth, a civilization in which the saintly few rather than the diabolical few would gravitate to positions of power. We already have the knowledge necessary to diagnose psychopathic personalities and keep them out of power. We have the knowledge necessary to dismantle the institutions in which psychopaths especially flourish – militaries, intelligence agencies, large corporations, and secret societies. We simply need to disseminate this knowledge, and the will to use it, as widely and as quickly as possible.

    Until the knowledge and awareness of pathological human beings is given the attention it deserves and becomes part of the general knowledge of all human beings, there is no way that things can be changed in any way that is effective and long-lasting. If half the people agitating for truth or stopping the war or saving the earth would focus their efforts, time and money on exposing psychopathy, we might get somewhere.

    One might ask if the weak point of our society has been our tolerance of psychopathic behavior? Our disbelief that someone could seem like an intelligent leader and still be acting deceptively on their own behalf without conscience? Or is it merely ignorance?

    If the general voting public is not aware that there exists a category of people we sometimes perceive as almost human, who look like us, who work with us, who are found in every race, every culture, speaking every language, but who are lacking conscience, how can the general public take care to block them from taking over the hierarchies? General ignorance of psychopathology may prove to be the downfall of civilization. We stand by like grazing sheep as political / corporate elites throw armies of our innocent sons and daughters against fabricated enemies as a way of generating trillions in profits, vying against each other for pathological hegemony.

    Nearly everyone who has been part of an organization working for social change has probably seen the same dynamic play out: The good and sincere work of many can be destroyed by the actions of one person. That doesn’t bode well for bringing some sort of justice to the planet! In fact, if psychopaths dominate political hierarchies, is it any wonder that peaceful demonstrations have zero impact on the outcome of political decisions? Perhaps it is time to choose something other than massive, distant hierarchies as a way of governing ourselves?

    So many efforts to provide essays, research reports, exposés and books to leaders so they might take the new information to heart and change their behavior have come to naught. For example, in the final paragraph of his revised edition of the book, The Party’s Over, Richard Heinberg writes:

    I still believe that if the people of the world can be helped to understand the situation we are in, the options available, and the consequences of the path we are currently on, then it is at least possible that they can be persuaded to undertake the considerable effort and sacrifice that will be entailed in a peaceful transition to a sustainable, locally based, decentralized, low-energy, resource-conserving social regime. But inspired leadership will be required.

    And that is the just-murdered fantasy. There are no inspired leaders anymore. And in hierarchical structures there can’t be. Assuming that you can elect men or women to office who will see reason and the light of day, and who will change and learn and grow, make compassionate decisions and take conscientious actions… is a foolish, childish dream. Continuing to dream it simply plays into psychopathic agendas.

    Only when the 75% of humanity with a healthy conscience come to understand that we have a natural predator, a group of people who live amongst us, viewing us as powerless victims to be freely fed upon for achieving their inhuman ends, only then will we take the fierce and immediate actions needed to defend what is preciously human. Psychological deviants have to be removed from any position of power over people of conscience, period. People must be made aware that such individuals exist and must learn how to spot them and their manipulations. The hard part is that one must also struggle against those tendencies to mercy and kindness in oneself in order not to become prey.

    The real problem is that the knowledge of psychopathy and how psychopaths rule the world has been effectively hidden. People do not have the adequate, nuanced knowledge they need to really make a change from the bottom up. Again and again, throughout history it has been meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If there is any work that is deserving of full time efforts and devotion for the sake of helping humanity in this present dark time, it is the study of psychopathy and the propagation of this information as far and wide and fast as possible.

    There are only two things that can bring a psychopath under submission:
    1. A bigger psychopath.
    2. The non-violent, absolute refusal to submit to psychopathic controls no matter the consequences (non-violent noncompliance).

    Let us choose path 2! If individuals simply sat down and refused to lift a hand to further one single aim of the psychopathic agenda, if people refused to pay taxes, if soldiers refused to fight, if government workers and corporate drones and prison guards refused to go to work, if doctors refused to treat psychopathic elites and their families, the whole system would grind to a screeching halt.

    True change happens in the moment that a person becomes aware of psychopathy in all its chilling details. From this new awareness, the world looks different, and entirely new actions can be taken. Distinguishing between human and psychopathic qualities begins the foundation of responsibility upon which we have a real chance to create sustainable culture.

    • Aurelio

      You mean to tell that the Founding Fathers were all a bunch psychopaths?
      Well, psychos or not, they came out with the best ideas the world have ever seen.

      • DaveH

        No, but the kind of people who are attracted to positions of Power over the lives of others do tend to be Sociopaths.

    • bob corbe

      I do agree with plan 2 and with the government we have now it is the only way to go.

    • Karolyn

      Extremely interesting and very telling. This all seems to make sense in the world that we live in.

    • DaveH

      Or, Mark could have simply pasted this link:
      http://www.occupyamerica.tv/profiles/blogs/psychopaths

    • SpecialKinNJ

      “Distinguishing between human and psychopathic qualities begins the foundation of responsibility upon which we have a real chance to create sustainable culture.”

      And locating a psychopathic non-human will be the real challenge.

    • Paradigmshift

      Thanks Mark Are, I also have been on a mission to understand the history of these things since 2004. Note my name. Everything that I thought to be true, I have discovered, is not true. Revisionist history led to revisionist religion. (Scofield) But I found that you have to go back, as far back as you can go. I know that I’m off topic here but humor me. The earliest Christians were not wrong, it was the same psychopaths that these authors talk about that had to murk up the purity of the simple story.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Whizzer

    When 9/11 happened and Ron Paul came out and said we brought it on ourselves…. well that was all I needed to hear to know the guy is a NUT! I only hope a returning Iraq or Afghanistan conflict American soldier will someday punch Paul in his dumb ass bulbous nose! The guy
    is NOT a true American in my eyes…. PERIOD! And you BoB have lost all credibility with me, and are part of the problem.

    • mickey

      No the military are being diverted to fire upon us via NDAA. Are we provoking the NDAA?

    • dusterdog

      Whizzer go take a whizz.Preferably off the golden gate bridge.And then jump in.America will be better off.

    • John Gould

      More troops support Dr. Paul than ALL of the other candidates combined. Do your research, retard.

    • Bill

      Wizzer, don’t you understand that you are the psychopath that he is talking about. Wake up. refuse to join the other psychopaths.

    • DaveH

      So if you went to your neighbor’s house weekly to harass him and his family, you would claim innocence when he finally snapped and attacked you back?

    • Jay

      Poor Whizzer is completely lost. Another victim of media indoctrination!

  • Lost in Paradise

    You all continue to argue foolishly, and I will vote for Ron Paul,because of his record, and his love of the constitution.

  • http://msn grant martin

    GO RON PAUL… HE HAS MY VOTE TO RESTORE AMERICA

    • SpecialKinNJ

      He and others campaigning in Iowa are now on TV, for all viewers (who’re tuned in) to see, and in appeals quite un-raucous are getting set for the caucus that will decide who can claim vic.tor.y. Should Ron somehow be the one ‘t won’t mean that the party’s undone, only that he appeals to that small coterie (there as in Texas) characterized primarily (in their views of the world) by ec.cen.tri.ci.ty.

  • Aurelio

    Last primaries Mike Huchabee won Iowa, only to lose the nomination to John McCain. What’s the big deal about winning in Iowa if don’t have the support of the whole party’s machinery? Most of his ideas are way off the main stream, and want of the most disqualifying ones, after his horrendous view of Iran, is dismantling Social Security because it’s not in the Constitution, but so is not the driving license, and for this reason are we going to suspend it? The man is an extremist, he is an angry old man. I don’t have a reason to vote for him.Sorry.

    • mickey

      SSA was a mandate, not in the Constitution. It was also meant to provide for the loss of the wage earner–being the key word, someone paid into it. It was not to provide cradle to grave for those who never paid into it.

      He says “wean” off the system and give the younger ones some other avenue. Protect those already in the system.

      Driver’s license is a state issue. Paul states the fed should only have powers designated to it, not the other way around.

      If you think the Bill of Rights is extreme, then what is the alternative?

      • SpecialKinNJ

        Perhaps, today, only some of the more interesting and novel interpretations and penumbra.

    • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

      Your conclusion advocates exactly the sort of strategy which has nearly finished the republic.
      Let’s just suppose that we have a principle which all reason and justice confirm as right. Let’s place that principle all the way to the right of a graph.
      Now, lets think of some nonsensical, unfair, completely idiotic principle. Let’s place that all the way to the left of our hypothetical graph.
      Proponents of both principles will campaign for the acceptance of their principle.
      The principle you seem to advocate will arrive at acceptance of a third principle somewhere in the middle of the graph.
      perhaps someone can explain to me why that principle is more desirable than the one on the right.
      No explanation is forthcoming, but the electorate, being convinced by the hugely vocal proponents of the position on the left that they should reasonably compromise, accede to their demands and accept the central position.
      The next time a question rolls around, the proponents of the position on the left, basking in the limelight of having gulled the electorate into moving toward the position they have proposed, again begins to loudly promote the position on the left.
      The proponents of the rightward position, many having been bought off by winnings accrued to the opposite side, or simply giving up their stand due to fear of being perceived as a loser, decline to vociferously defend their position.
      As a result, the position arrived at by the easily hoodwinked electorate is situated somewhere to the left of the last year’s position.
      As anyone can clearly see, this same scenario will continue until you wake up with the reality of the situation being very near to the position on the left of the scale.
      Its proponents, of course wildly triumphant, will immediately begin to figure out a way of moving the boundary of the graph as far further to the left as their usual tactic will allow them to do.
      By now, the electorate have largely been trained that any position toward the right of what they’ve been maneuvered into accepting is somehow radical or kooky.
      I am here to tell you that, in American history, The proponents of the position on the right were our founding fathers and the firstborn of their spiritual descendants today is Ron Paul.
      As for those who proposed the leftward position…Well let’s just say, out of charity, that I am not able to accurately assess them due to the utter incomprehensibility of their motives as far as I am concerned. Perhaps others have insight into this aspect. Suffice it to say that I am diametrically opposed to any compromise with them, and if any value the restoration of our republic, you should be, too.

    • DaveH

      An extremist, Aurelio, is a man who supports taking money from people for “their own good”, spending that money, and then taking that money from others who will most likely never see a dime of it themselves.
      It is Unconstitutional. It is Theft. The system could be stopped today, and then the people who were forced to participate could be paid back by selling off the immense assets that the Big Government Gang has accumulated at the rest of our expense. The Gang wouldn’t be happy about that.

  • Ted Crawford

    Ron Paul is clearly not electable. He is supported only by some delusional partisans. He attempts to his isolationism with the mantal of “nonintervention” and his Anarchy with the Libertarian tag! His statements remind me of that of the old pervert “Want some candy little girl”, and promise an equally disastrous outcome!

    • mickey

      China is a great example of isolationalist and non-intervention (so far). China practiced isolation until it got Tawain back. Then it went “trade”.

      China practices “non-intervention” (at least with the US) and how did that work for China? And interventionalist Russia? How did that work out for Russia?

      Those partisans are people who are giving up any group identify for the bottom line: soverignty, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Nothing else matters, for without these, we are nothing.

      • John Gould

        Well said, Mickey.

      • dusterdog

        Mickey.When did China get Tawian back?

        • mickey

          A little light on the details but Britain gave it back or the rule. About 30 yrs ago. I remember being in class and the prof relating what China did in ten yrs (1991) what it took the US to do in 200 yrs.

          • dusterdog

            Mickey you got your details a little off.It was Hong Kong Tiawan is still independant.

    • DaveH

      Where is your proof of Ron’s unelectibility, Ted?
      Inquiring minds want to know.
      Here’s some contrary proof:
      http://www.infowars.com/new-poll-ron-paul-betters-other-gop-candidates-vs-obama/

      Keep in mind that a large percentage of potential Ron Paul supporters have no idea who he is or what he stands for, thanks to a virtual media blackout by the Propaganda media. Imagine the increased number of votes that will come his way as more people do become aware.

      • Susanna

        Ron Paul Revolution, is similar to what happened during the Revolutionary War. We were getting our independence from the Sovereigns in Britain who were manipulating the people with money, etc. The same is happening now. Ron Paul is the only Candidate who is fighting the Federal Reserve Bankrupters. None of the others are doing what he has done. If you look at some of the Ron Paul videos on Youtube and his questioning of Bernanke, you’ll hear some information that will raise the hair on your head and arms. You’ll see who is controlling the wars and the money. The wars in the Middle East are fabricated by our Government who wants to control the oil along with the Federal Reserve Bankrupters. Oil is money and power for those who can control it, and they are seeking to control it! They are removing every last leader of every single country in the Middle East to manipulate a control on the group who will control the entire Middle East through a World Banking System, and World Government System. The United Nations will control all Military, and we’ve been suckered into this scheme like useful idiots.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    As expected, most of the people on this site are Paulistas. Sadly, claiming that he can win the general election. That is something that will never happen. I won;t waste my time here today. Good Day.

    • mickey

      Naw, just more people waking up to what happens when the Constitution dies along with the BRs.

    • C. R.

      Not a Paulista, but have become more aware of the candidates and he is the only one that supports America and the Constitution. I am an Independent who did not drink kool-aid and vote in Obama which you must have done. Let’s get our government back and back to the 3 duties set out by the Constitution and get them out of our faces, our homes, and our lives. I am tired of being controlled by those who cannot control themselves! So, I like Ron Paul for his views. I don’t care about his political party as I don’t believe in being a party animal in politics, but for his stand and intellect and knowledge! So, you no like, leave and go live elsewhere outside the USA. I have and I think we need a strong person to turn this country around. By the way, China is not dumb, but capitalistic smart. If you have not been there, go and find out for yourself. I have more than once and, frankly, between their communism and Obama’s, Obama’s is worse!

    • bob

      bye, non-thinker.!

    • DaveH

      We know, Crony Capitalist, you tell us that same propaganda, board after board. You may have to soon start competing for a living instead of relying on targeted protection from your Crony Politicians.

  • americanfreedom70

    More government spending: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More government debt: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More erosion to liberty: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More government regs.: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More government opression: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More gun regulation: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More illegal imigration: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More big business: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More fiat money printing: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    More welfare: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    New World order: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No
    Martial Law: Newt, Mitt, Michele, Obama:Yes Ron paul: No

  • C. R.

    Just a bit of history – Geo. Washington was an isolatinist and the fact that Ron Paul is too is a winning point for me and America. Why must we waste our military lives, our money, and our time on what other countries do or not do? Most of the problems abroad have been created by these countries (mainly France and England) and why should we be there to try and clean up their messes! Nothing has changed in most of these countries and they are becoming, if not already, rabid Islamists and nothing can change that except the people themselves. Yes, we can lend aid, but not waste young lives and put ourselves in debt just to see another tyranny take over. We need someone who is strong for America and not a kiss-ass idiot to replace what we already have – nothing but a lot of debt and hatred for us throughout the world. So, what am I missing here? Nothing. We need Ron Paul!

    • mickey

      ummm I think that is “non-interventionalist”. Two different meanings.

      • SpecialKinNJ

        “C. R. says:
        December 26, 2011 at 10:23 am

        “Just a bit of history – Geo. Washington was an isolationist.”
        But we can all be very glad that the French, at the time, were
        in.ter.ven.tion.ist.

        Some appear to think our country goes out of its way to show the rest of the world who over it holds sway. But that makes little sense for we’re a land placed on defense (primarily) by islamo-facists today.

        There are those with eyes who can’t see–a continuing unsolved mystery–leading them not to conceive of threats sighted eyes clearly perceive, and respond to them ap.pro.pri.ate.ly.

        • Jay

          There are those with eyes who can’t see–the law of “cause and effect”. If you keep jabbing someone with a sharp stick, you will end up with a sharp stick up your azz. Not exactly rocket science, wouldn’t you agree, professor?

        • heartlandhelen

          ~~another way of saying it: ‘They always could be had for money’

          • heartlandhelen

            ~~these things are gettin mixed up… my earlier reference: they can be had for money– was addressed to the French involvement in the Revolutionary War~~

  • alexa

    I get a kick out of people who make the statement they can’t vote for someone because of one position of many issues. Brain may have stopped working.

    • SpecialKinNJ

      Sometimes a single issue is critical. Mr. Paul’s position that his country (e.g., the U.S.) bears responsibility for jihadism and all its attendant evils appears to constitute a critical issue for those who value their lives and freedom in today’s (or tomorrow’s) world.

      And in a larger context, for example, the position of George Wallace on the issue of equal rights for all, was sufficient to disqualify him for the presidency, by inference from the behavior of voters in his time.

      There are issues of such critical importance as to make a candidate’s position a matter of overriding concern.

      • DaveH

        So after the war-mongers (apparently including you, Special) have pissed off much of the world’s population and at the same time impoverished our country, we are going to protect our Freedom HOW?

  • J T G FAN

    WORDS WORDS WORDS!!!
    Maybe a little Anarchy would be a good idea.Get rid of all the scum sucking pig liberals and bleeding hearts. Start over ! No more welfare and freebies for the filth who don’t give ,but take,take,take.
    You dolts who believe in Government spending and handouts,please keep in mind that it is TAX PAYER’S money that the Feds are “spending!” THAT is the only money the government has.They take it from those who earned it to give to the scum for votes.
    VOTE RON PAUL 2012 and 2016

  • Henry Ledbetter

    WHO WOULD BE BEST TO RETURN US TO A GOD FIRST CONSTITUTIONAL FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK. The Word of God instructs us to “Pray for those in authority over us but what is God’s chain of command. God is the first in the chain of command as there may come a time when we “ought to obey God rather than men. The local sheriff should be next in the chain of command followed by the governor and state government. The president and federal government should be dead last in the ones that have authority over us. It seems to me that many people have their chain of command out of order I Pray, ALL HAD A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

    • John Gould

      Wise words. Cheers.

    • J T G FAN

      Yes,Henry,you quote from St. Paul’s First letter to Timothy,Chap 2.We should pray for those in authority,”That we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and HONESTY.” Verse 2. That is the reason we are to pray for them,not that they should get rich and misspend tax payer’s money.
      Thanks for your comments.

    • Tazio2013

      Sapere Aude Henry,

      God, Jesus and prayer will have zero effect come November 2012 as The Powers That Be; i.e., the very same PTB that made BHO POTUS 44, will make certain that Willard “Mittens” Romney is the GOP candidate and, therefore, BHO – Bush Lite – will get another four years. Although Libertarian Ron Paul is the only truth teller and rational thinker in the Republikrat party and would obviously be the single best candidate for POTUS 45, AIPAC would do everything in their power – which is considerable – to crush him plus they would have near total support from all the corrupt judeo-christian-zionist Republikrat politicians.

      Tuam libera mentem
      Semper fi!

  • KennyB

    RON PAUL 2012 We need to get back to the constitution. Regardless of what the GOP is saying about him. I refuse to donate to the Republican party any longer because they do not represent the people.

    Yea sure our foreign policy is important, but not more imporant than the policies here at home. Can you believe that our own congress even passed NDAA S1867 & HR1540? Ron Paul is all about Personal Freedom not about Governmental World Power. This Bill has taken away ALL of our civil liberties. Without any reason our own government has the power to arrest and hold any American indefinitely.

    On December 6th Hilflaburton (spelling?) has asked for bids to set up these camps. Part of the requirment to offer a bid, the contractor has to be able to get this a camp up and running to hold between 100 to 300 prisoners within 24 hours, and up to 2000 prisoners within 72 hours. There are plans to have at least five camps with plans to expand. So tell me, where are all these 10,000 plus terrorist now? and why did this bill have to include American citizens?

    WE NEED A PRESIDENT LIKE RON PAUL, who is for…. WE THE PEOPLE, not one that is against. We can’t forget about foreign policy of course,..but we need to be more concernd about domestic policy. Go to http://www.infowar.com for the story.(if it’s still up.)

  • David

    If this idiot is nominated you might as well shut down the RNC and go home and hand the election to his Imperial Islamic Majesty Obama! Ron Paul is the most moronic of candidates to appear on the GOP slate!

    He is NOT a Conservative and NOT A REPUBLICAN! I will vote for a third party candidate before I vote for this idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • John Gould

      I hope you have a shirt that says “Misinformed”.

    • K Brown

      David,I hope the RNC is shut down if it has support of idiots like you. Your propaganda based drivil is getting old and the few people out there that have awakened will lead us out of this mess. If the braindead in the GOP that still think that Newt, Perry,(both can’t run a campaign let alone a country), Romney are any different that what we have had for the last 20 years are just in plain denial. John, I do not think the shirt should say “Misinformed” it should say “Lemming”. David, It’s not your fault you are ignorant for the Globalists are good at what they do. Just open your eyes.

    • mickey

      And how many repubs voted for NDAA? How many on stage wanted to further more NDAA?

      A 3rd party is looking very good at this point.

    • Jay

      David says: He is NOT a Conservative and NOT A REPUBLICAN!

      Thank G-D for that!

      • SpecialKinNJ

        But if he should vote Republican in 2012, who cares what he believes?

        • Jay

          All i’m saying is, let’s not get stuck on labels. Crooks hide behind labels! Let’s focus on sound principles. For example; 1)Not fleecing the American public. 2) Stop invading foreign countries. 3) End the Fed. 4) Produce rather then spend our way out of debt, ect.. all are sound principles, and need no labels. These are principles that Dr. Ron Paul will stand behind, and implement. The same cannot be said of the D’s and R’s, as they are nothing more then corporate puppets!

    • DaveH

      What is your definition of Conservative, David?
      It certainly can’t be the philosophy as advanced by our Founders who distrusted Big Central Governments.

  • Susie4Liberty

    Ron Paul belongs to NO CORPORATE LOBBY…and is Not for Sale. Don’t you know that drives Corporate Anything ‘bonkers’?! He is, however, committed to the PEOPLE’S LOBBY…meaning We the People. And the Entities that want us “back” in the “place” to which they’ve assigned us MUST stop this MOVEMENT! Just WHO do We think We ARE?! People with RIGHTS guaranteed under Our Constitution?!

    News for those who defame Dr. Paul and his Legions of Supporters: WE HAVE AWAKENED. And We know what you’re trying to accomplish with the extension of the UNPatriotic Act and the NDAA. And NO! We will NOT get down on our knees and allow your marking us with an ID number.

  • RC, Jr.

    Bob, As a conservative, I’ve found your articles to be quite insightful. Perplexed by the media’s subtle disdain for Mr.Paul’s domestic and foreign policy, I’ve become more convinced that he’s much more in line with my take on all matters related to our governance. It’s impossible to ignore the facts given the current state of our economy and the possibility of further intervention in the middle east. RC Jr. NY.

    • SpecialKinNJ

      For an interventionist country, one that fails to keep boots on the ground in Iraq would seem to have behaved “out of character”.

      • Jay

        The original goal was to replace government in that region. Now that the new installation (a ruling party that will perform obiscience to the American administration) has been installed, there’s no need for “boots on the ground”. But, should the new installation contemplate a different script, well, fear not, the American boot will once again be placed on their necks!

        • Jay

          Should have been obeisance, my bad.

  • dusterdog

    Here is the deal.If you like what is happening now & want more of the same don’t vote for Ron.vote for one of the other so called rep candidates or better yet just re elect Obama.Me I want big changes.Changes I can believe in.Thats why I support Ron Paul.

  • 4204life

    RONPAUL2012

  • Bill

    Bob Livingston, you sorta amaze me. Where were you when Ron Paul was telling you along time ago about what your article says here. We’re you not listening!not awake! I have been reading your publications now for some time and honestly think that it is only very recently that YOU are jumping on the band wagon. You are certainly not one of the individuals who were trying to tell everyone what Ron was all about. You now appear to be going along with the movement of Ron Paul not because of your belief but to start to rattle your own cage about this unique man that knows what he is talking about. The radio communicators on the so called conservatives side of major radio are still in the dark like you were. It is time for the conservatives to become aware and wake up to what is really going on instead of what they believe is going on. Nuf said.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Bill,

      You write: “Where were you when Ron Paul was telling you along time ago about what your article says here. We’re you not listening!not awake! I have been reading your publications now for some time and honestly think that it is only very recently that YOU are jumping on the band wagon.” If you have been reading for as long as you say, then you have not been paying attention. I have long said that Ron Paul is the only statesman left in Washington, D.C.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Antny

    Well, it’s like this….. The establishment desperately does not want Ron Paul in office as President. For anyone with a brain, that should be a dead give-away as to who our best choice is for President. Seriously, both the Republican and Democrat party are just establishment vehicles to put their own people in office. The use the parties to play people against each other to keep their attention diverted. Ron Paul must be our next President or we may as well say goodbye to our freedom.

    • SpecialKinNJ

      “The establishment desperately does not want Ron Paul in office as President. For anyone with a brain, that should be a dead give-away as to who our best choice is for President.”

      By inference, if “desperately not wanting someone in office” provides “a dead give-away as to who our best choice is for President” in the general case, then it follows that our best choice is Barack H. Obama!

      That’s not what the establishment (at least that associated with the GOP) would say (even though in the particular case it may be a clue as to the establishment view re Mr. Paul).

      • DaveH

        “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground” — Thomas Jefferson

        It doesn’t matter what the Party label is. Leaders have a natural inclination to increase their Power and Perks at the rest of our expense.

  • Robert, TX

    As patriots, and working, law-abiding, tax-paying Americans we need to stop using the word “conservative.” The media and our schools have successfully usurped and destroyed the original meaning of that word. So don’t use it. We are patriots, and we are Americans. Let the welfare recipients, the unemployment bums, the double-dippers and the criminals be democrats or republicans – but not US!

  • dusterdog

    If you like Ron Paul the best thing you can do for him is talk.Talk to others.Read his policies & shout them out for everyone to hear.Mayby just mayby they will listen to you & not Fox,Cbs,Nbc &abc.

    • Robert, TX

      Excellent point and great idea! Those few times I have to stomach something on ABC, NBC, or CBS at least I know who they are up front. FOX is the really bad one, as they have convinved their 30 million sheep not to worry about the wolves.

      • SpecialKinNJ

        For years Comcast in central NJ didn’t provide a channel for Fox News– about which we’d only had second-hand accounts–while giving us access to CNN and MSNBC, for example. When Comcast finally relented (why? quien sabe?) and this person was given direct access to the channel he was convinced that Fox views were “fair and balanced”–he found himself irritated by the spin only half the time!

      • DaveH

        Robert, you need to watch the Fox Business Network. They are heavily bent towards Freedom and Small Government.
        John Stossel
        Judge Napolitano
        David Asman
        Eric Bolling

  • Gonzo

    While I do not agree with all of Paul’s policies, I do actually like his foreign policy. I believe Ron Paul is the only truly honest candidate in the Republican primary, and for this he has gained my respect. “Bobblehead Branstad” is an idiot and a puppet with that all-too-common political trait of being able to talk-and-talk while saying nothing at all.

    I will be voting for Ron Paul in the primary, and Obama in the general election. I do not believe in turning over the welfare of our people to a corporate version of Darwinism, but I would rather deal with an honest man like Paul than a lying snake like Gingrich, or a spineless liar like Romney. And yes, I change my party affiliation all the time to maximize the impact of my vote.

    • sorighton

      Oh boy – this will get our country back on the right track!!!!!!!!! Shifting parties just to get Obama back in office. Seems like a lot of that going around these days.

      • Gonzo

        The fact is, until we get rid of the two-party system altogether, we will never have true change. No candidate with new ideas can get past the filtering system that is the two-party system. Don’t believe it? Look at Ron Paul! Registered Republican, leading in the polls in Iowa, and yet the Republican establishment is pulling out all the stops to sabotage his chances! Even that Bobblehead Branstad saying even if his constituents voted overwhelmingly for Paul, it would mean nothing! Really? If you really want change, you must send a message to the Republican party and tell them “Hell No!” to both Romney and Gingrich. Tell them that neither is good enough, and you just won’t accept either! That is exactly what I am doing by changing parties and voting for Ron Paul. Party affiliation is NOTHING! Loyalty to a party that will only nominate a pair of snakes is undeserved! Party loyalty needs to be stripped clean and driven into the ground as the terribly corrupt system it truly is! Make candidates run on their views and beliefs, like Ron Paul is doing now. Kowtowing to the party just to be elected is destroying any hope of new ideas and any hope that things will get better anytime soon, if ever!

  • Fletchguy

    No Real American republican, or Tea Partier would vote for Paul. paul is pretty much a nut that time has passed by. he has no chance to be nominated or elected.

    • DaveH

      No Real American will listen to your advice.

      • Jay

        No real American would offer that sort of advice!

  • Zero

    Ron Paul is the only candidate that truly stand up for our Constitution.
    As far as the “racist” remarks, I reviewed them and could not find one that was actually not accurate. So, what’s “racist” about the the truth?

  • Jay

    All the Ron Paul nay-sayers are scared shills, including the “Sh*t for brains” media! Ron Paul 2012!!!

  • roy in kansas

    so- would you guys all prefer another four years of greedy, corrupt, money and power-grabbing government like we’ve had for years and years, full of corruption and broken laws by the lawless elite, or are you willing to take a chance on one of the few honest politicians we have left, who wants to restore our freedoms, make our currency sound again, and try to make our country great again? ron paul wants to end all wars, bring our troops home, talk with other countries, be friends, and stop bringing our troops home in body bags…..
    so whats wrong with that?

    ron paul is the ONLY one getting my vote!!!!

    • SpecialKinNJ

      We earnestly hope “in the primary” is implied. Presumably common sense and reason will prevail in the general election and accordingly that Paul supporters will vote for any (non-third party) candidate standing against Obama.

  • Susie4Liberty

    There are so many good comments here – and a few posted by folks who are still asleep. (Regret I have no way to “like”…)

    Thank you for writing/posting the article, Bob Livingston. I’ve missed you and your good input. And there’s simply no way you represent a “Personal Liberty Digest” and not recognize the power of Dr. Paul’s Platform…

    If we don’t reverse Course, I truly believe we will be/are/have been Witness to The Fall of the Republic.

  • dusterdog

    Ready for war in Iran?If so elect one of the other republican candidates.Or better yet just keep Obama and you will get what you want.Elect Ron Paul & it won’t happen.Many American soldiers & many Iranians will live to see another day.

  • JeffH

    I got about halfway through the comments and unfortunatly the Capt has garnered most of the attention, negative as it is.

    Just my perspective and gut feeling…Bob Livingston is correct, obviously. I read and listen to liberals, moderates, independents, Republicans and Democrats, conservatives, libertarians, and even the green movement and I keep seeing the same thing…what you don’t get from the GOP or the MSM…seems Ron Paul has a ton of support for POTUS. The majority on this website, liberal or not, support RP.

    Ron Paul threatens the very core of the American political ponzi scheme we’ve all been spoonfed for decades…he’s a threat to the Feds, a threat to the un-constitutionalists that run the country, a threat to the political status quo, good ole boys club in DC…he can’t bring constitutionalism to the forefront without the help of the American people but he can he can walk the walk and talk the talk.
    Wuthout question, Ron Paul is the only true constitutionist running for the POTUS nomination…his record will support it.

    All of you that rely on the MSM and hearsay for your news info…I got some news for you…do some real homework and study the candidates…there is not one candidate that can stand toe to toe with Ron Paul and his pro-constitution record, not one.
    _____________________________________________

    In an article Entitled, The Freedom Index – A Congressional Scorecard Based on the U.S. Constitution dated July 23, 2007, in The New American Magazine, Ron Paul receives a 100% constitutional voting record.

    This article outlines 10 key issues like Immigration Reform, Budget Resolution, Iran Military Operations (yes, you read correctly, IRAN) and Minimum Wage. It gives arguments as to whether they are valid according to The United States Constitution. It also gives an accounting of each representative’s vote and includes the votes of The Senate.
    http://www.opednews.com/Diary/Ron-Paul-Scores-A-100-Con-by-Jan-Coldwater-070726-813.html

    If you believe in the Constituion: Vote Ron Paul

    • Jay

      You got that right Jeff! Our man is in the arena and he is fighting the fight of his life.

      Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, John Gibson, Michael Medved and other “conservative” talk show hosts have slammed Ron Paul and even clearly stated that OBAMA IS A BETTER CHOICE for president than would be Ron Paul! This means we have struck a nerve.

      So HOLD YOUR POSITIONS PAULITES…Our numbers are growing, and the anti-Paul, stuffed-shirts, scum-bags are sweating bullets!!! Ron Paul 2012!

      • SpecialKinNJ

        If Ron really means what he says, and he says he’s a man of his word, it is conceivable that we might better risk another four years of Obama rather elevate Mr. Paul to a position in which he might be able to implement his somewhat eccentric views of the world we co-exist with axes of evil, today. Mr. Paul should have listened more carefully to the voice-over intro to The Shadow: “Who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men?”…..

        • JeffH

          “eccentric”? Yes, I guess Mr. Paul does view things a bit different than the status quo in DC…He’s different(eccentric)or unconventional in that he believes in the Constitution and following the rule of law. My kind of “eccentric” I’d have to say.

          • SpecialKinNJ

            Hi:
            Can’t resist, and no offense intended, but as the saying goes, it takes one to know one.

          • DaveH

            Special,
            You wear the Lemming badge proudly.

          • JeffH

            SpecialKinNJ, not offended at all, as a matter of fact I’m honored that you would think I think like the constitutionalist like Ron Paul as undeserving as I may be. It’s also obvious that you don’t understand Ron Paul nor did you understand my comment…but troll on.

        • Jay

          What “axis of evil”? You mean the one’s we, in the west, created? By constantly sticking our noses in their affairs? By butchering their civilians, and stealing their resources? I think its high time we started radically, changing our foreign policies! Don’t you?

          • Paradigmshift

            Don’t forget one of the newest parts of our foreign policy… sending drones to Pakistan, Libya and Iran. I am shocked at the comments by people who are worried about the “Muslim Terrorists.” The fear factor created by TPTB, and believed by the gullible American public is truly alarming. So many people in the USA are afraid of Sharia law, how about the Noahide laws that have been passed by our Congress? Middle Eastern Muslims are the new cold war bad guys after the wall came down, most of them just want to live their lives and raise their children without the superpowers manipulating their lives with war in their streets.

    • DaveH

      Very Good, Jeff. Thanks.

      • JeffH

        :)

    • dusterdog

      JeffH better yet if you want to save your ass you better vote Ron Paul

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    Hoooboy,,They continue to expound some of the most non thinking garbage ,if you disagree with their commie speel you are the one that is nuts. Where did capt Rich come up with his monnicer, Capt of a rowboat maybe, and rich in offensive odor. You are not alone there Capt that ignoranc continues to try to sway thinking people.

  • Linda

    It really bothers me that I am told that it does not matter what the people want. “Electorial Votes will win over the peoples choice” – if this is true, then we the people must take a stand. When I conducted an inquirery about voting Obama, I could not find anyone that voted for him but he managed to get elected. Why? Corruption in the poles? Immigrants that are not citizens of the united states of America and do not want to follow the Law of the Land?I am a citizen of the republic of Texas and a land owner – I am supposed to be protected by the Constitution of the united states of America.

  • Alan

    I don’t care for his stance on Israel. I don’t believe that you throw your friends under a bus just because you want to seduce the American Public. I want a man who knows who his friends are and sticks anround them. In this crazy world I don’t trust the Arabs and I want the only democracy in the middle East protected. If and when Paul has this in his agenda then and only then will he be electable.

    • DaveH

      Israel can take care of themselves without the Concomitant interference of the United States. And those of you who want to support Israel, or Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia, or any of the others you may want to support — DO SO. But not with MY money. Use your own.

    • Brady

      Israel
      has never been our friend,get that through your heads.They are the epitome of a deceiver.Why on earth should we be friends with ANY country ? They want world domination(Zionists).We do all their dirty work,when have they EVER sent their troops in to a war to help us ? Never! They are not our ally,they are the enemy.

      If our country is broke,how are we able to send “Foreign Aid” to any country? Think about common sense here.If you were broke and someone asked you for money,what would your reaction be? Would you gladly give your money away? I doubt it.So how can we,as a nation just give our money away.It is ludicrous at best.

      So,if Ron Paul says no to Foreign Aid,I say GREAT!He makes more sense than all the rest,as they spit out the same rhetoric as the current clown.

      Their is only one clear choice:RON PAUL !!

    • Paradigmshift

      Friends??? Zionism = Communism, Zionism = Babylonian Talmidism, Zionism = Psychopathy, Zionism = Kaballahism or Cabbalaism. Read Mark Are’s comments above in this post Zionists, no matter where they live are not our friends. Read “The Iron Curtain Over America” by John Beaty (1953) Read some of Michael Collins Pipers books. You, (like so many other Americans) need to study history (not revisionist history)

    • Paradigmshift

      Israel is NOT a Democracy, even though they have the United States citizens convinced that they are.

  • bob corbe

    I have my doubts that Ron Paul is for America. He acts like the Uncle we should of kept in the basement. Cutting off the rest of the world is instane.

  • Tazio2013

    It isn’t the swipe Fox Noise takes at their competitors that interests us, take a look at what each station has pulling their sleds:
    The front of Fox News’ 2011 card–distributed to media journalists including this one–features a cartoon fox leading ABC, NBC and CBS in a sheep-sled race, with the jockeys for MSNBC and CNN watching from the sidelines. (The idea is that Fox News (Sheeple powered), the top-rated cable news network, is so far ahead, it’s now competing against the the Big Three networks.)
    Is this Fox’s way of saying “our sheep are better than your sheep”? Just goes to show you what the networks really think about their viewers. Very telling in our opinion.Fox News 2010 Holiday Card:

    • Paradigmshift

      Wow, not being a journalist, I didn’t get a Christmas card from FOX, or Faux. That blows me away! Talk about in your face, too bad the general population is unaware of this.
      What I don’t understand is why they have Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano?

  • bob

    C. Davis made the most sense in the whole discussion. Still voting for Ron Paul.!!

  • Tazio2013

    MUST READ for all Libertarian Ron Paul supporters: Federal Reserve is a Cache of Stolen Assets

    Totalitarian Collectivism

    “Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talk of sovereignty of Parliament and of democracy is idle and futile… Once a nation parts with control of its credit, it matters not who makes the nation’s laws… Usury once in control will wreck any nation.” – William Lyon Mackenzie King

    http://www.batr.org/totalitariancollectivism/100911.html

  • Zeke

    In response to the quote, “Never mind that two out of the past three winners of the Iowa Caucus have gone on to win the Republican nomination, a Paul win will mean the Iowa vote is irrelevant.”

    I agree with Governor Branstad that the Iowa Caucus is “irrelevant” regardless of who wins. History proves that the Iowa caucus is only a 50-50 proposition with an obvious percentage improvement for the reelection of incumbents i.e. 1976, 1984, 2004.

    Placing bets on the Iowa caucus’ Win, Place or Show, might choose the GOP’s eventual nominee though McCain proved that fourth place can win the crown in 2008. Win, Place or Show is, more likely, a predictor of where the campaign money will go.

    The Iowa caucus accurately predicted the GOP nominee in:
    1976 — Gerald Ford (the incumbent) defeated Ronald Reagan by a “slim” margin.
    1996 — Bob Dole
    2000 — George W. Bush

    The Iowa caucus failed to accurately predict the Republican nominee in:
    1980 — George H. W. Bush defeated Reagan.
    1988 — Bob Dole defeated George H. W. Bush.
    2008 — Mike Huckabee, defeated Romney, Thompson, McCain, Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani (listed in order of points).

    The GOP establishment might like a “Romney and Branstad” ticket but most of us would see it as the “Ho-Hum and Who” ticket.

    All issues need to be explored. I could never ignore Gingrich’s issues any more than I could ignore Paul’s. Romney’s biggest issue is that he want’s to declare himself the “conservative candidate” while embracing his liberal governor ways e.g. Romneycare

    • SpecialKinNJ

      Three “wins” and three “losses”, suggesting about the same probability for forecasting accuracy as successive coin tosses!

  • Mad-Max

    Memo to America: Stop waiting for Democrats and Republicans to save you. It’s bad for your health and your future. Can’t you tell? You have another choice – use it!

    “WAKE UP PEOPLE!”
    Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( http://www.revolution2.osixs.org )

    Enough talk, it’s time to get organized.

  • hitthedeck

    Ron Paul reminds me of Harry Truman! Stubborn as hell and the buck stops here. Paul would be a shoe in if his foreign policy wasn’t so passive. He is strong on his domestic policy but nutty on defense. You can’t have one without the other and that is where he is blindsided.

    • DaveH

      Please explain to me what is nutty about NOT wanting to intervene in other countries’ politics? What is nutty about wanting to trade peacefully with other countries instead of engaging in gun-barrel diplomacy?

      • Zeke

        There is nothing “nutty” about “NOT wanting” to intervene in other countries’ politics.
        There is something reprehensible in being unwilling to stand with your neighbor when they are being robbed or raped.
        There is something reprehensible in refusing to stand up with and for one’s self or an oppressed neighbor.
        For example, to stand idly by:
        > after after a foreign government attacks the US and kills over 2400 US servicemen and civilians and wounds nearly 1200 US servicemen and civilians.
        > during Hitler’s attempt to subdue Great Britain.
        > during the state-sponsored persecution and murder of approximately six million Jews by the Nazi regime.
        > after the brutal murder of Tiananmen Square protestors of 1989.
        > after over 3000 Americans were murdered by middle eastern terrorists.
        Just as there is something terribly wrong to stand by, giving hearty approval as our own government steals peoples livelihoods and we are being robbed of our personal liberties.

  • Barry

    Ron Paul is by far the best for America. Forget who got us here. Ron Paul can led us in righteous governing, straighten our paths as a country in sound money,freedom is the key everyone. Strong forces, protecting our borders not everyone else’s . We Are in debt he can led the right way to get us out and to have a surplus. America vote righteousness not age, race, vote for getting out enslavement of debt, Ron Paul understands the Fed’s fraud, Bankers greed (sheeps clothing). Work righteousness . It Is Written when the righteous are in power the People Rejoice. Be a Righteousness Voter. Not a party voter. Come On America get this right . Ron Paul is correct on Israel, sound money , Freedom for all. If the Arabs continue their terrorist bombings in America which is most likely to keep happening . We will need Ron Paul for Americans liberty. Anyone else you will get Marshall Law, Police states, new govnernment laws ect. That means Arabs will win what they set out to do live like them. We lose!! Yes our liberties. Ron Paul can safe guard like no other this country. With Financial collaspe coming this decade we will need Ron Paul wisdom to led. Where the others will continue to our ruin if we don’t choose correctly. Go America Go Ron Paul a True Champion

    • Susanna

      Ron Paul 2012! Right on Barry!

  • FreedomFighter

    Ron Paul 2012

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Lou

    For Capt. Rich G: The scrambled eggs you wear on your Capt’s hat only signifies that you have scrambled eggs for brains. NO ONE has outlined or proven why Ron Pauls foreign policy is dangerous to the U.S. I keep hearing these allegations of, loon, wack, and out there, but nobody can seem to intelligently defend these remarks with any credible evidence. To the contrary, Ron Paul gives rational explanation for his stance on foreign policy. The greedy corporate and corrupt political plundering of the Mid East has hurt our country and our people. The Companies like Halliburton and DynCorp made BILLIONS of dollars off the death and maiming of thousands of our solidiers. For what? It’s Simple, money, greed, power and oil, under the guise of being for our national security. We just pulled out of Iraq and they’re already fighting!
    Remember some of the names associated with Halliburton and DynCorp…. Ex U.S. VP Dick Cheney; Ex Sec of State,Lawrence Eagleburger; Ex CIA Dir. James Woolsey and plenty of other strange bedfellows.

    To Angela: RON PAUL DOES NOT WANT TO LEGALIZE DRUGS! He wants to eliminate the roll of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and allow states to enforce their own laws on drugs. He does not advocate taking any drug which will cause you harm. He wants freedom to chooseunder individual state law. THINK CONSTITUTION!!
    It’s the same with gay marriage. He is personally against it but does not want the ferderal government telling you what to do. Again…. state law THINK CONSTITUTION!!
    To the rest: Just because Ron Paul talks like the friendly old guy who lives in your neighborhood, says good morning,and pats your dog on the head when it runs up to him instead of being full of glib like all the other candidates does not make him “out there”. I would rather believe it makes him right here where we need him!

    • SpecialKinNJ

      “Ron Paul gives rational explanation for his stance on foreign policy.’?

      If Mr. Paul’s explanations are perceived as constituting rationality in foreign policy, who could possibly need to cite any evidence of irrationality?

      • Lou

        Thanks, you just proved my point. NO ONE, including yourself can give a rational explanation. The truth hurts soooooooooo bad

      • Susanna

        If you read the article above, the CFR and the Bilderberger Group are vetting the candidates, and if they don’t go along with their plan to control the world, then they won’t get nominated. End of discussion.

      • DaveH

        Uh, can we cite your comments as an example of irrationality?

        • SpecialKinNJ

          Quien sabe?

  • Lynn

    Proof that Ron Paul is a racist. This has been going on his entire political life. He probably can’t change, and maybe that is not such a bad thing.

    http://www.5k.com/

    • Barry

      Lynn I think you 5k.com proves he is NOT a racist. He is for righteousness for all races. It looks at liberty not race. You need to do more research before you bare false witness against someone. Dr. Ron Paul believes in justice for all. Revisit Ron Paul speeches i believe you will find a different picture. reconsider Ron Paul he will be the best for our freedom, helping the poor,by sound money, righteous governing. Go America make the right choice by voting for righeousness Ron Paul is the person we need in the White House.

      • Lynn

        That is satire my dear. I am a Ron Paul supporter, and was an alternate delegate. But I have found that for those who believe that he was a racist would click the link and learn that he absolutely was not. Sometimes we have to education people going through a window when they keep the front door locked. I will redo the link again.

    • DaveH

      Very Good, Lynn.

  • Buck

    I WILL vote for RON PAUL if he wins the primary , even though I am a supporter of Michele bachmann as my first choice . I will not go to the polls to vote for Romney or Gingrich . I will not vote for the best of two evils again . Romney and Gingrich are progressives regardless of whether they accept the title or not . The only two in the race that are not progressives are Michele Bachman and Ron Paul and will cast no votes for anyone else , PERIOD . Come together for the wrong person is a no gainer , to me it is about country , not party .

    • SpecialKinNJ

      “Come together for the wrong person is a no gainer , to me it is about country , not party .”

      If Mr. Paul’s followers don’t vote for the ultimate GOP nominee, they’ll enhance the possibility that a fellow who has done no real good for his country might be allowed to continue to do that for another four years….

      And since Mr. Paul will not be that nominee, their love for country will be put to a severe test in November 2012.

  • Rocketman

    There is a lot of people attacking Ron Paul right now for racism. Before you agree with them without checking the facts in this case I urge everyone to read the following article on the web. It’s entitled “Why do GOP bosses fear Ron Paul?” by John Nichols. I guarantee that after you read this article you will understand just why these charges are being made and what the stakes really are for America if Ron Paul is not elected President.

  • Susanna

    People, read this article piece by piece, and stop shooting off your mouths about all of the woes of Ron Paul. Ron Paul is for personal Liberty, not drug habit enhancement. Do you know they’re putting down herbals as harmful drugs, and that you won’t be able to buy any alternative medicines anymore if the FDA gets any more powerful? You think that’s Freedom? You’ll have to grow your own herbs. My Father depends on the alternative medicines at 91, because the drugs don’t work! He’s still doing well for 91. Do you know how they’re poisoning your foods? Go to Youtube and see Dr. Rima Laibow, but putting in her name, and you’ll find out how the Government is poisoning our foods. Don’t eat anything with aspartame. That’s a very toxic food poison.

    • DaveH

      It’s all about Crony Capitalism, Susanna.
      There have been virtually no deaths from supplements, yet Big Government wants to regulate them. Why? Of course to help their Crony Capitalist contributors (Big Pharma, etc.). That’s what most regulations do.

      http://www.naturalnews.com/032924_dietary_supplements_FDA_approval.html

      • Susanna

        You’re right DavidH. It’s all about Big Pharma and Money! Greed is killing the USA and our Liberty and our Republic. How many sheeple are there who still can’t understand this? Anyone with a brain and reason should be able to figure this all out. The collapse in 2008 was planned and done on purpose. It wasn’t an accident. I’ve said on this site to look at the movie “It’s a Wonderful Life” and see what a Rich Old Miser wanted to do to George Bailey. I couldn’t believe that movie would point out a fact so plainly. The dummies on this page would do well to see how money is manipulated by the filthy rich, and how they bring down small busines, small banks, etc. Remem ber in 2008 almost every small bank, except the Credit Unions, were enveloped by the Central Bankers. It was all planned.

  • Susanna

    NAYSAYERS on this page! READ THE ARTICLE! STOP SHOOTING YOUR MOUTHS BEFORE YOU “READ THE ARTICLE!” You’ve drunk of the poison of the CFR’s and the Bilderberger Group, as well as the Military Industrial Complex. You like the United Nations telling our military what wars to fight and where we should be? How about North Korea? How about China and Russia? Got any clues as to why we’re not worried about their Nuclear capabilities? Get a brain all of you! READ THE ARTICLE!

    • SpecialKinNJ

      “How about North Korea? How about China and Russia? Got any clues as to why we’re not worried about their Nuclear capabilities?”

      The question suggests we aren’t. Wonder how anyone could have come to that interesting conclusion.

  • kab

    I have read ALL the comments so far on this post, and some of it was REALLY painful, and I still don’t understand why people take RP’s stand on Iran so lightly. Does anyone here understand the simple fact that the Islamic fanatics that run that country want nuclear weapons because they WANT to use them? They WANT to attack Israel and they don’t care if they retaliate. Those of their own that would be killed would all be blessed as martyrs. The same applies to their attitude about America, and with the current state of our border they could pull off an attack against us MUCH more easily than we are led to believe.

    Let me make it really simple – they don’t believe like us, they don’t think like us, they hate us and want us all dead. It’s a war that has been going on for centuries. Ignoring them will not help us or anyone else. They have a mission and a goal of world domination through the use of force. Don’t take my word for it, read their own words. Believe them, they’re not saber rattling. They are deadly serious.

    • DaveH

      It amazes me how many people have bought into the preemptive strike propaganda.
      When we strike the first blow against those who have not attacked our Country, we ARE the Aggressors. We are the kind of people the Militarists would be screaming bloody murder about if some other country did the same to us.

      • SpecialKinNJ

        No one has suggested a preemptive strike. Kab’s comments simply captured the essence of Iran’s policies quite well–and did not include a recommendation for striking preemptively.

        Forewarned is forearmed. Be prepared. Keep your guard up. Trust but verify. All these are axioms that appear not to be included in Mr. Paul’s reportory.

        • SpecialKinNJ

          Should be “repertory”.

        • Jay

          Hey Special, your moniker should be “spin-doctor”. Give it a rest will you! Trust but verify? Sure, for those who have a guilty conscience, and are always watching their backs, and for good reasons! Why should all the axioms you enumerated be included in Mr. Paul’s speeches? He has no intention of colonizing the middle-east, hence the absence of paranoid, axiom’s from his speeches! If i interacted with my neighbours as the current administration interacts in the middle-east, i too, would be PARANOID!

          • SpecialKinNJ

            If one doesn’t know the difference between “them” and “us”, there’s little point in trying to enlighten her/him. The chances of being successful in that undertaking are decidedly slim, if not nonexistent.

          • kab

            Sorry I wasn’t clear enough for some, but Special is right. I see RP turning a generic blind eye towards Iran as though he thinks that if we’re just nice to them and let them be, they will change their minds about western civilization and “live and let live”. I never said attack them, but you can’t just ignore them. RP seems to see self interest as aggression. When a nuke that’s smuggled across the border decimates an American city, it’ll be a little too late to say “Hmm, maybe we should have paid more attention to them…”

    • Barry

      Kab- First Israel by themselves will take care of Iran. They are all talk because they have nothing. They are bluffing they know Israel will take Them-Out. Ron Paul does not want them to have a nuclear bomb, Russia ,China do. Israel will sabotage iran nuclear facilities. Ron Paul is by for the best person for America. Because when the Arabs continue their terrorist attacks by “dirty bombing” us . They will succeed in causing the our government to change laws that forfeit our liberities, by invoking marshall Law, Police states loss of freedom is exactly what they the Arabs want us to be enslaved with. They win when we lose our freedom by our own government enslaving us. Re consider Ron paul for our Next President we will need him if the Arabs succeed and a fiancial collaspe is parleyed with that.

  • Barry

    Does anyone want to know what the words of the Lord are through the prophets for 2012-.Believe your prophets so shall you prosper? God words over mans words any takers?

    • kab

      I believe God’s words -

      Genesis 12:1-3
      “Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
      And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
      And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

      We as a nation are on the path to being cursed…

  • Gregory Christiano

    I still believe Ron Paul is dangerous. I’ve listen to every debate since they began back in the summer and his liberal views are quite obvious. What he says, especially about foreign policy, gives me chills. Dick Morris (the Fox News analyst) summed it up very nicely:

    “Ron Paul remains terrifying. He is really the ultimate liberal in the race. He wants to legalize drugs, repeal the Patriot Act, slash our military spending, pull out of Afghanistan… On these issues, he’s way, way to the left of Obama. What makes him a conservative is hard to tell. But, whatever he is, he would be a disaster as the Republican candidate. His bland assertion in the last debate, that ‘anyone’ will beat Obama is both self-serving and inaccurate. He wouldn’t. Anyone who votes for Paul and is not brought up short by his denuding us in our defenses against terrorism and his passivity in the face of Iranian nuclear weapons, has to realize that nominating him is tantamount to re-electing Obama.”

    His foreign policy of nonintervention, alone, should disqualify him as a viable candidate. Some in the military may like Paul’s pacifist views, but I hardly think it is a prevalent feeling among the top brass. China and Russia will be testing a new president as they always have done. Paul would be ripe pickings for our enemies’ foreign expansion aims. I hope other Republicans enter the race for the nomination. I’m not too thrilled with any of the current contenders anyway.

    • DaveH

      Sorry, Greg, but you’re the Liberal. Liberals like Big Government. You like Big Government. You’re into the Military Statist side of Big Government. Other Liberals are into the Welfare Statist side of Big Government. Both groups come under the Liberal Banner, you just have different Agendas.
      Ron Paul is the True Conservative. He believes in the kind of Liberty that our Founders believed in. If you aren’t hurting other people or their property, it is none of Government’s business. Unfortunately, people like you have been duped by the Military State, just as the other kind of Liberals have been duped by the Welfare State. The Leaders and their Crony Capitalist prosper, the rest of us lose. Someday maybe you will get educated and realize that. Maybe.
      Ron Paul knows that no man should be above the law. If theft is wrong, then it’s wrong for the Politicians to engage in theft. If killing is wrong except for self-defense, then it’s wrong for the Politicians to engage in killing except for self-defense.
      Thanks to people like yourself who have a blood lust, Gregory, the rest of us will probably have to suffer the consequences some day when we become a police-state that would be the envy of Hitler.

  • Lynn

    This is a link I had that showed that Ron Paul is a racist as satire. For those who don’t understand satire or the fact that I support Ron Paul, I will again show the link. The whole point is six lines of what the media says versus 30 years of personal integrity. Vote with your heart, not with the media.

    http://www.5k.com/ Look at the pictures, not the comments, if I have to spell it out.

  • PanamaRod

    Your article said:{A common refrain from Republicans is: “I like most of what Ron Paul says, but I can’t vote for him because of his ‘isolationist’ foreign policy.”}
    I am a conservative Independent who also believes that the CFR and Bilderbergs are one-wprld elites who are behind our progressive “control freak” politicians on both sides of the aisle, BUT I am noy afainst Paul’s “isolationist” foreign policy bu against his insane suicidal foreign policy.

  • http://na Al

    Kennedy was the first president to go into social security to pay for war ( Viet Nam). He then said it makes no sense that we borrow from the Federal Reserve and then pay interest on the money when the government has the power to print. Why give this power to a private bank. Then he was murdered and so was his brother prior to winning the election. If we the people stand behind Paul the true owners of the Federal Reserve will have him KILLED!The media is owned by the politicians and big business. The politicians dont like Paul because because he is an honest politician and they are NOT! He threatens all corrupt people in this country. Paul tells people the truth and vote for whom ever you want but listen to Paul if you want the truth. Now as far as your vote will it be for the black Obama or the white Obama (Romney). I’m voting for Ron Paul and I dont care what lies, slant they come up with. If he wins the republican nomination and they kill him then we the people will have to stand up for ourselves or we deserve what we will get and I guarantee no one will like it. Lets see who could be the true owners of the Federal Reserve Rockefeller, Bush, Rothchilds my guess is all three and maybe a few other heads of families.

    • Susanna

      Thanks Al for posting this. Everyone needs to look up Executive Order 11110 of John F. Kennedy. He was killed after he wrote that Executive Order. It was an inside job.

    • JeffH

      Al, it wasn’t JFK, it was LBJ that raided social security in order to fund the war in Vietnam.

      President Lyndon Johnson raids the Social Security Trust Fund to wage the Vietnam War
      http://www.conservapedia.com/Social_security

  • http://ActionAmerica.org/ John Gaver

    Spin from the RINOS. Spin from the paulbots. Spin from the Conservatives. But what few of them are addressing is the one polling factor that has a 100% accuracy record at every level of political campaigning.

    “If your first choice candidate were to drop out of the race, who is your second choice?”

    During the 2008 race, it was pointed out that the answer to that question has a 100% accuracy rate at predicting who WON’T win. Candidates whose “First Choice” and “Second Choice” numbers don’t come close to 50%, NEVER win. It doesn’t say a thing about who WILL win. But it’s laser accurate at telling who WON’T win. So what has this to do with Ron “Blame America First” Paul?

    Paul’s “Second Choice” numbers are in the toilet.

    The reason why this is important is because, as other candidates drop out of the race, their support will go to candidates OTHER THAN Paul. Santorum and Huntsman will probably drop out after New Hampshire and those votes will go to candidates OTHER THAN Paul. Perry may benefit from some of that support, but he probably won’t make it to Super Tuesday. So most of his support will go to candidates OTHER THAN Paul. Bachmann has to stay in the race, even if she runs out of money, since a major stumble by one of the top candidates will give her a boost to the top and re-fill her coffers. This is because her “Second Choice” numbers are the highest of all. That likely won’t happen. But that possibility shows the importance of “Second Choice” numbers.

    If you total Paul’s current “First Choice” numbers with his “Second Choice” numbers, they still don’t come to even 40% and that’s in Iowa, where he has focused half of his campaign resources. His total in national polls is even worse (31%). It’s also interesting to note that even as his “First Choice” numbers have gone up, his total of “First Choice” and “Second Choice” numbers have remained almost completely static, which tells us that he’s not gaining new support outside of converting some of his “Second Choice” crowd. By contrast, while Bachmann’s “First Choice” numbers nationally, are in the toilet, when you total that with her “Second Choice” numbers, her total is far better than Paul’s, coming close to 50% in some polls and surpassing 50% in others. Only Huntsman and Santorum have a lower total than Paul. Not good for the “Blame America First” standard-bearer. Oops!

    This doesn’t mean that Bachmann will win or even come close. It just means that she isn’t completely out of the race. By contrast, it does mean it that Paul CAN’T POSSIBLY WIN. The polling factor that is NEVER WRONG has spoken.

    The point behind “Second Choice” numbers is that it shows that a candidate with low “Second Choice” numbers has all or almost all of the support that he’ll ever get. In this case, it shows that Paul has pretty much peaked and will never get anywhere close to enough support to win the nomination. He has poured almost all of his resources into Iowa and New Hampshire and even in those states, his “First Choice” and “Second Choice” totals don’t get him anywhere near enough support to win the nomination (36%) and that’s in his strongest state and assuming that he can convert ALL of his “Second Choice” crowd. By contrast, Bachmann’s total support in both Iowa and nationally is barely marginal, at near 50%. Not good, but not out of the race.

    The Iowa Governor is right. Where Paul finishes in Iowa is completely insignificant, because Paul has pretty much peaked. As other candidates drop out, their support will go elsewhere. He is and always has been an “also-ran”. But this doesn’t mean that the Iowa race isn’t still important. It’s very important. It’s just that the importance in Iowa, this year, is who comes in second. However, we can thank Paul for siphoning off votes from The Grinch and Romney, so Bachmann will be able to finish closer to the two real front-runners, making it a tighter race.

    Just keep in mind that the closest thing to a truism in polling is that a candidate whose “First Choice” and “Second Choice” numbers don’t come close to or exceed 50%, CAN’T POSSIBLY WIN. At 36% total in Iowa and 31% nationally, Paul CAN’T POSSIBLY WIN. That’s just the way it is. Although, Paul does provide good comic relief in the debates.

    • Charles

      All of the RINOs and Obama are all the same – destruction of civil liberties, due process, private property, the currency, etc. All love tyranny.

      Ron Paul, alone among all the candidates, understands the Constitution, and honors it. If that’s a problem for you, then just say that you hate Liberty and would do anything to destroy it.

      Nothing but distraction, a tactic of the CFR. If RP is no one’s second choice, then that means the process of education must continue. Ron Paul is doing that, and you are nothing but a distraction.

      That RP is no one’s second choice shows how slight is the difference between “progressive (marxist)” and “neo-con”. Thanks for revealing yourself.

    • DaveH

      There is only one second choice to Ron Paul. That’s Gary Johnson. Anybody else running is no choice at all, unless you fancy Bigger Government.
      Get one thing straight, John. Government is just one Big Gang. Gang members look out for themselves first. The rest of us are just sheep to be sheared. Of course they won’t tell you that up front, because we outnumber them 100 to 1.
      There are few Politicians with the Principles to stand against the Gang. Ron Paul is one of the few.
      I will vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson or the Libertarian Candidate for President. Nobody else is Principled enough to get my vote.

    • DaveH

      And John, you make the statement that “Candidates whose “First Choice” and “Second Choice” numbers don’t come close to 50%, NEVER win”. What is the sample size for your great revelation? 1 election, 2 elections, or 3 maybe? How many candidates were running in each election? Was it 3, 5, 7, 9, or what?
      Can you post references to back up your claims?

  • aero_marsox

    Doomsday around the corner?
    A new money issued by the United Nations?
    Our Civil Liberties eroding? Economic collapse and violence in the streets.???
    Will it happen?
    Can it be prevented?

    Ron Paul is telling everyone who will listen to him….

    He says”

    “When you see what the government is preparing for, and the arrests and military law, and the demonstrations in the streets, some people aren’t going to be convinced so easily that you don’t owe them a living.”

    Well, is that not true?

    Ron Paul says:

    “The Federal Reserve is poised to “bail out” the Euro zone, a move that he said ultimately would cause the United States to surrender control of its own currency to the United Nations.

    International Monetary Fund’s Managing Director Christine Lagarde says:

    “National parliaments grumble at using public money or the guarantee of their state to support other countries. Protectionism is in the debate, and everyone for themselves is winning ground.”

    Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Potomac Research Group, an analysis firm says:

    “Paul appeals to people whose knowledge of major issues is superficial (and) he sees conspiracies where there are none.

    What says you, the American Citizen? How about anyone reading about this? Are you one of those superficial persons Valliere and otheres are talking about? Do you see conspiracies behind every door? Do you take the time to think about what it would be like to live through Doomsday and it just all might be true? How long can we continue to support our citizens or other countries who are going through hard times? If we keep own giving our resources to others, will we end up in our own Doomsday Scenarios?
    Reply

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Let’s stop the smear tactics and get to the issues.

    Supporting Ron Paul
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    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Also,

      Apr 1st, 2011 | By olivia

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      inShareemailFascism vs Communism vs Totalitarianism

      “There are various political and economic ideologies in the world such as capitalism, socialism, fascism, communism and totalitarianism. There was a time when these ideologies were in force in different countries of the world. The world was divided along several lines because of these ideologies. It was the breakup of the communist Soviet Union in the eighties and the beginning of a revolution called internet that has brought about a sea change in the geo political conditions of the world. Ideologies have melted with free flow of information and no country today can be said to be following a particular ideology in the strictest sense of the word. This is because of the intense desire of the countries to be in the mainstream and also to take maximum advantage of economic liberalization. However, it is important to know the differences between different ideologies and this article intends to clarify fascism, communism and totalitarianism.

      Fascism

      This ideology where nation or race is kept above everything else originated in Mussolini’s Italy and later spread to Germany where Adolf Hitler led to the downfall of his nation and plunged the world into World War II because of his thinking that Nazi was the most superior race and that it was meant to rule the world. Fascism makes use of state machinery for false propaganda and censorship to suppress political opposition. In fascism, state is supreme and absolute, and individuals and groups are only relative. Political analysts consider fascism to be on the far right of the political spectrum. Contrary to popular belief, fascism opposes communism, democracy, liberalism, conservatism, and even capitalism. Fascists believe in war and violence as they think that these help in national regeneration and supremacy over other nations.

      Communism

      Communism is one ideology that is still popular in some parts of the world though it has got much diluted after the demise of Soviet Union in the eighties. The erstwhile breakaway republics of USSR today have leanings towards capitalism as they are impressed by the progress western countries have made.

      Communism aims for a classless society where everyone is equal, and even the state is redundant. This is an ideal scenario which is not possible to achieve hence communism can never be perfect. It believes in common ownership and free access to articles of consumption. Communism does not believe in private property and even profit of the individual.

      There are many who think that socialism and communism are same but according to Marx, socialism is only the beginning to a long march towards communism.

      Totalitarianism

      Totalitarianism is an ideology that believes in total political power to be in the hands of a single person, or a particular class. This political system does not recognize the rights of the individuals and places no restrictions on the authority of the state. This is akin to personality cultism where the charisma of a single person works upon the masses through false propaganda and ruthless use of brute state power. Other means to suppress any opposition are state terrorism, mass surveillance and restriction of speech and liberty of action. This political system is close to authoritarianism and dictatorship but falls short of both.

      Summary

      Fascism has its roots in the superiority of a person or a class and is closer to totalitarianism but communism is different from both these ideologies as it believes in a class less and stateless society. Fascism and totalitarianism on the other hand believe in unbridled power in the hands of a person or class and believe in restriction of thinking and action of the individuals in the society”.

  • Borsia

    First Paul isn’t an isolationist. He has said that he will have open dialog with the rest of the world, by definition not isolation.
    What he has said is that he won’t involve the American military in any foreign country unless there is a declaration of war issued by Congress. He also said he won’t attempt to subvert foreign powers or affairs or allow America to continue to be the, unelected, world police.

    Unlike the other candidates Dr. Paul actually knows his history and what all of America’s subversive tactics have gotten us over the last 70 years. Most of the problems in the Middle East are a direct result of American policy and American & Western actions.

    It isn’t very surprising to hear the Iowa Governor making such statements. If Paul wins it will show that it is he who is irrelevant.

    The most amusing thing is that Paul is probably the only Republican who can win against Obummer.
    None of the other candidates carry more than a scant handful of Independents and it is the Independents who ultimately determine the winner.
    It has already been shown that Paul also carries a substantial number of Democrats, again he is the only Republican carrying them.

    As to Paul’s “dirty laundry”, those 20 year old writings, that he didn’t write.
    Have the looked at Gingrich’s past? He has so many skeletons in his closet the he would have to add another wing to his mansion just to hold them. He is probably the least electable of all of those running.

  • Marc Emelianenko

    I’m a libertarian who wants to win, not tilt at windmills. Mr. Paul is a hero, but he’s not ready for prime time. While self-evident to us that a rational default position should be non-intervention by big government – including meddling in foreign affairs like Iran’s – Mr. Paul’s attempts to articulate this position to a broad audience have been embarrassingly clumsy.

    • Charles

      There is nothing that says the president must be graceful. The job of the President is to defend, uphold and OBEY the Constitution. Geo Washington was not graceful. Thomas Jefferson had a whiney, nasal tone.

      Should we support a great speaker who will send is to Hell? Oh, gee, I forgot – that’s what we have now.

      It’s about Liberty, not entertainment.

      • Marc Emelianenko

        If you want to win, you can’t ignore the fact that elections are decided more by optics than by substance. That clearly was not the case 200 years ago, or even 60 years ago for that matter. Virtually all the wonks agree that Nixon handily won the debates in 1960, but the popular perception went to JFK. Why? Because he was more telegenic.

        If substance and character were more important, then Mr. Paul would be President already! Again, we can keep tilting at windmills, keep losing, and keep complaining about it. Or we can try a different approach.

        • DaveH

          What good is a win, Marc, if it’s just another Big Government Growther?
          Have you never trained for an athletic contest? It takes time and effort. Everybody has to start somewhere. If the voters continue to vote for pretty faces, then we will never rise up from the ashes.

          • Marc Emelianenko

            So Ron Paul is the only choice? I find it frustrating that so many are wed to the man rather than the cause. As much as the Paulbots adore the man, the Dems and their supplicants in the big media will easily position him to the general electorate as a nut. The goal for 2012 is to do whatever it takes to block Obama from re-election, is it not? Then keep forcing the GOP establishment to the right by continually electing more Tea-Party types to the House and Senate. Taking back our government will be a long-fought process with many less-than-ideal ballot choices, not a single event like nominating Ron Paul. I admire Mr. Paul and find him somewhat analogous to Barry Goldwater. Ronald Reagan was begotten politically by Mr. Goldwater. I’m cautiously optimistic that Ron Paul will inspire someone who has the savvy it takes to get an actual small-government conservative into the White House. Perhaps that will be his truly begotten son?

    • DaveH

      Ron Paul is the only one who gives good, well-thought-out answers to the debate questions (when he gets any). Evidence for his influence manifests itself in the number of other candidates who are sounding more like him everyday. The difference? Paul has the track record to prove that he isn’t just telling the voters what they want to hear. The rest don’t.
      If you can’t understand the wisdom of his answers, Marc, maybe you need to do some more studying at mises.org, or cato.org, or reason.org, or lewrockwell.com.
      Bone up on the logic of Libertarian Principles, Marc.

  • Barry

    Vote righteousness. It exalts America not if you are Reb or Dem. Ron Paul only makes America stronger. Nobody will want to mess with Israel or America if he is in office. Why because if anyone trys to make war with America he will go through congress for approval and it will not be a long lasting war. America needs to get out of debt into surplus Ron Paul is the best person to get us their liberty for all, justice , mercy , let the people go to work doing this in there states. He knows ALL PROPIT comes from the earth…. He would allow us to go into the earth and get it with new tech,new sources of energy less regulations. Reducing the energy cost ect. Reconsider Ron Paul on policies that they are what is best for you. Go America go Ron Paul.

  • SirExcedrin

    Right on Al. If we are not willing to demand the transfer of America’s monetary policy back into the hands of elected representative government and do away with the destructive secret organizations such as the Federal Reserve, then it is just yapping about nothing and soon enough you start sounding just as retarded as Capt Rich G, and his numerous alias comment accounts.

  • http://verizon.net budman

    Karolyn: I suppose the best way to make a decision is to go to the list of Bilderberg List of attendees. I know three names on that list are Obama, Perry and Bush. Several other people have alleged that Romney and Gingrich are as well. Well, if they were, I didn’t see their names but you can research it for yourself.
    To me, their quest is a far reach as China and Russia will not comply and to think that all countries of the world could co-exist under one form of government and one currency is wishful thinking. Look at what is happening in Europe now which I think was an experiment in it and it is coming apart at the seams.

    • Karolyn

      According to info in “Thrive,” they are working on an American Union and an Asian Union. I know what you mean, but we really don’t know what is going on and who is working with who. There is a whole lot we don’t know.

  • Joe Sixpack

    At this point the prostrate presstitudes of the MSM have shown themselves to lack seriousness, to be clownish and ineffective. They are undeserving of our attention. People are catching on.
    The rather pitiful and ineffective hitpiece by Gloria Borger suggests that Gloria should follow Marilyn Monroe and the reasons she set up her own movie studio. The money is not worth it and the prestige- well Gloria has no prestige.
    The ineffectual labeling of Ron Paul as racist by the slick-haired and intestinally stapled Al Sharpton could not be seen as more hypocritical and clownish. The chronology of the Tawana Brawley affair and the putative racist comments in the Ron Paul newsletter at roughly the same time in history are particularly noteworthy. Rather than defaming Ron Paul, maybe Al could tell us about Tawana and his role in the deaths that occurred at Freddy’s Fashion Mart in Harlem someday at roughly the same time. That would at least be “fair and balanced”.
    A hit piece by the Weekly Neocon Standard points to a former disgruntled employee criticizing Ron Paul on foreign policy issues. How potent. Maybe you could put Bill Kristol on and have him explain how the war in Iraq was really worth the lives lost and trillions of dollars spent as he tries to lie this country’s way into World War III.
    Of course, let us not forget the unapologetic Zionist shill David Horowitz who rather early in this whole process shrieked that Ron Paul was a “vicious anti-semite” and “un-American” before he was bitchslapped by the people at Prison Planet, as if the overuse of that defamatory term to forestall debate by a variety of treasonous Neocon shills who put the interests of a foreign country ahead of the interests of their own country actually carries any weight anymore.
    A crew that can’t get anything right on so many issues and can’t speak to so many important issues in order to mislead the American people, now provides textbook comic book hits and a classic negative putsch narrative to try to prevent the American public from learning about the only one running for President who actually gives a damn about the constitution and the Republic.
    While a certain amount of comedy from the clueless mainstream media is sometimes a belly laugh in a collapsing economy, there are issues that are simply too important to leave to these clowns. One of those issues is choosing the President of the United States, which should be left to the choice of the American people.
    Let’s hope they are completely unsuccessful and all lose their jobs as their credibility collapses into the toilet.

  • Jamm

    I find the current fraud in the White House despicable. I will vote for anyone who would be an improvement over what stupid voters who did not pay attention to what he was saying eleted. Ron Pual would not be an improvement.

    Please don’t let our country get burned twice. If by some bazaar chance Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination we MUST all move to Nevada in time to register so we can vote none of the above.

    Obama and Paul are the twin nightmare of anyone who wants to continue our Republic.

    • Charles

      By what criteria do you liken Ron Paul to Obama?

      I have one criteria, because it is the only one that matters. I do not want to be a slave with a plastic president, nor an entertaining President, nor a President that people will follow mindlessly into Hell because he is a “leader”. My criteria is LIBERTY:

      Pro Liberty: Ron Paul
      Anti Liberty: Obama, Romney, Newt, Santorum, Cain, Bachmann, … etc … etc.

  • Vigilannie

    GREAT ARTICLE!!!!!! PASSING IT ON!!! THANKS!

  • Idylewylde

    I’m absolutely broken hearted.
    I wanted Cain as President, and Paul as VP.

    Why VP?

    Because, my friends, as VP he would not be distracted by presidential politics, which are mainly media theater, to concentrate on his one true passion .. auditing the FED.

    Can you imagine VP Paul ripping into that bunch like a Bull Terrier after a pack of rats?
    He’s been in DC long enough to know where all the darkest secrets are buried .. and Gingrich knows it .. which is why he’s so paranoid about Paul .. and is the only reason he’s running in a wild attempt to derail Paul.

    Before Paul started winning support, where was Gingrich?

    The RNC machine called Gingrich in to discredit Paul .. plain, pure, and simple .. and you see how low Gingrich will sink to do it.
    Gingrich is the spolier .. or so they thought.

    But, alas, now Paul must run the course going for the top rung, and I fear he will be distracted from his one true passion .. the single most important issue of our time .. the FED.

  • James

    Vigilannie thanks for passing it on, I intend to do the same.

  • Erik

    Thanks to the Paul Ryan plan the republicrats will lose the white house,Obumer will win a second term! The final nails in america’s coffin will be driven in!The republicans are just as rotten as the democrats.We are all doomed!

    • Meteorlady

      Most ALL DEMOCRATS are owned by people like George Soros. Some Republicans are. There is corruption in all branches of our government. Right now HOlder should be out of a job, but he’s still there and lying under oath before the congress committees about Fast & Furious. I hope that people will see the light and vote for Ron Paul. He’s the only honest statesman left on the planet I think.

  • Meteorlady

    Simply BECAUSE the Republicans and news media are not helping him is reason to vote for him. He’s certainly scared them and is running with the people’s help right now. I am sending more money today.

    • CharlieT

      How’s this. I don’t like anybody the media likes.
      I keep my choices simple and do not get caught up in the democrat/republication hoopla.
      Both extremes do not take the Oath of Office sincerely.
      It’s only a formality, like swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help me God.
      Ron Paul believes in the constitution and in my opinion he supports what is good for “We The People”. This is what sets him apart from the other media hopefuls.
      If the media ignores a candidate like Ron Paul then I better take a closer look at him. In my opinion, RP is at the top of my list of possible candidates.

  • Thinking About

    Some have whined Paul was not getting coverage and now he is getting covered and explored and now you whine you don’t like the coverage. If you think the questions are too hard now they will only get harder. If your answer that was 20 years ago and he does not follow that theory any more, how many more times will he change his mind. We can not go by his past on the matters he chooses, his book will be open much wider. Either he can handle it or it will sink him. He won’t be able to pull off the mike at 2 am and end questions.

    • DaveH

      So you advocate a zealot like yourself, TA, who can never grow and learn?
      I know that the President is just a man. A man who has no business micromanaging our lives. Ron Paul doesn’t want to micromanage our lives.
      Can you say the same about your choice, TA?
      Ron Paul — For Freedom!

      • Thinking about

        freedom for who, he claims to cut the spending but goes for earmarks. guess you don’t think earmarks cost also. you have problems with truth.

    • Paradigmshift

      Oh, he’s getting coverage now. Michael Medved is sounding more and more like a hysterical school girl, he droned on all day about the evils of Ron Paul. The more polls show Paul doing well, the higher his voice gets! I listen to him solely for entertainment!

  • Mike

    Just imagine if Ron Paul had been elected in 2008. Both Iraq and Afghanistan wars would’ve ended in 2009 soon after he took office. He would have replaced The federal reserve with a public bank (as opposed to a private one like the FED) and there would’ve been no “quantitive easing” AKA inflation the last 3 years. No obamacare, no patriot act, no restrictions on the constitution. No assualt on your 2nd amendment rights or talks of UN small arms treaties. No Libya war and no talk of war with Syria, Pakistan or Iran. No billions of dollars in bailouts. A secured US/Mexico border.

    Military spending would be way down, a giant blow to the welfare state as social spending would have been cut. There would be no raising the debt ceiling or even a need for such talk. Our national debts would be being slowly payed off.

    With that being said, how can you possibly not want Ron Paul to be our next Pres? Unlike other politicians he sticks by his word and has done so his entire political career. You know what you will get with Ron Paul, with everyone else you don’t know what they’re going to do because they do not keep their promises.

    • DaveH

      The problem is, Mike, whether or not the banking system is subject to competition in Free Markets, like any other business.
      A Central Bank, whether Public or Private, is a danger because the natural inclination of Central Banks is to work hand in hand with Big Government Growthers.
      http://mises.org/daily/3195

    • kab

      All the things you mention are wonderful ideas. However, you forget that it requires a congress that will cooperate to achieve any of them. We put too much weight on the shoulders of one man when we see him as a panacea for all our problems. We, the voters, must give him a congress that is willing to work with him. The issue is MUCH bigger than who win’s the presidency…

      By the way, has anyone given any thought to who RP might select as his running mate?? It’s very important. What if something happened to Obama and we had Biden as president (shudder).

  • Fighting Grandma

    I would highly suggest that anyone who read this article also read the Brookings Institute “blueprint 2009″ link that is part of this…Especially if you are anti-Ron Paul. You will totally understand what is going on worldwide and why! And, this my friends, is pure evil hidden in plain sight!

    • Paradigmshift

      Amen Sista!!!

  • hitthedeck

    Does Ron Paul support Obama Care?

    • DaveH

      Of course not.

  • Neil

    To all the naysayers I have a startling fact: Ron Paul represents ALL of us. You can’t say that about the other candidates….not even close. Someone chime in and tell me, who do THEY stand for?

  • http://www.malagent.com Malagent

    Ron Paul’s foreign isn’t “noninterventionism” It’s freaking stupid.

    We’ve been “meddling” for a while to try and address a problem. That problem started long before we were there to cause it.

    That’s the whole freaking problem with Ron Paul and his merry band of lunatics they refuse to accept reality, they refuse to recognize facts or history, they refuse to take the lunatic Islamic Militants at their word, unless of course they are blaming America for everything – then the Ron Paul Legioneers are perfectly happy saying “SEE SEE THERE IT IS, IT’S OUR FAULT,m THEY SAID SO!!!”

    But the other times, thousands and thousands of them where they say they would attack and kill us anyway, you all ignore it.

    You ignore their writings and their actions and listen to one statement from the man responsible for killing 3,000 Americans in a few hours.

    You’re right, Ron Paul’s foreign policy isn’t isolationist, it’s freaking stupidity on parade.

    But that’s not all I don’t like about him. I despise that he claims to be a conservative when he’s not, I despise that he sponsors earmarks and rakes in millions and millions in earmarks whilst bitching about spending and bragging that he doesn’t “vote” for appropriations. Well folks, sorry to be a realist – but that’s called being a typical big spending corrupt politicians.

    I also despise that you people don’t give a rat’s ass about any of it. He’s you freaking idol and that’s all you give a flying f*** about, that’s it. Give Iran nukes, we should understand why they want them, never-mind that they say they will use them, never-mind they say want to use them. We’re not supposed to believe that! We are only supposed to believe when they it’s America’s fault!

    Thankfully, Ron Paul has less of a chance of winning then I do, and I’m not running. Mickey Mouse would win a write-in campaign before Ron Paul wins anything outside of his cushy Congressional seat where he rakes in earmarks in the top tiers and convinces you morons he’s a constitutional conservative, or anon-interventionist libertarian, or a whatever the hell it is you want your dear leader and savior to be at the moment.

    • DaveH

      You know nothing of history, Malagent, only what your Propagandizers have spoon-fed you. If you did, you would change your mind.
      Read “The Real Lincoln”, or “Lincoln Uber Alles”, or this free online book to get a clue as to the extent of your Brainwashing:
      http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

  • http://www.malagent.com Malagent

    re “Just imagine if Ron Paul had been elected in 2008.”

    Nope, we would all be burning infidels speaking Arabic and paying the Jizya tax to our conquerors.

    Thank goodness he lost, and will lose again. And thank GOD he’s retiring after this and will go he hell away, fading into obscurity where he has belonged for the last thirty or so years.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    Does anyone agree with me when I suggest that the Germans are going the wrong way by trying to save the Greek economy. My thinking is that they should cut GREECE loose and let it go under. It would be a great lesson in economics of what happens to countries which permit their politicians to borrow too much to give them too much of a good lifestyle without having to work and pay for it out of real savings.

    I’m sure the Greeks are thinking they wont have to pay their loans if they go bankrupt….but if they do…who will ever lend the Greeks any new money again without charging 50% interest?

    I’m thinking a Greek collapse would be a great lesson for all the other countries and their generous politicians thinking they can continue to do more of the same. What do your readers think? What are your opinions?

    • libertytrain

      I’m guessing this is an open question. I’m guessing if I were a hardworking German worker, I’d let them go – but I don’t fully understand what will happen if they do so. What kind of financial “domino” effect would occur and exactly what would occur to all of the rest of the world individually and collectively… Or would I really care? I don’t know.

    • DaveH

      Is this the Real Gilly, or an imposter?

      • libertytrain

        I think he’s the same – perhaps there is more of a language barrier than we imagine there should be. I understand where you’re going, especially since he attacked me when I was agreeing with him. But….

  • Brady

    To Malagent-boy aren’t you angry tonite.You need to study more and read facts or are you one of those who justs watch the manipulative news media. I guess they are the truth tellers and everything they say is gospel?Of course, we should also believe everything our gov’t tells us to.You my friend are misguided and I am not going to write anymore and waste my time.How about reading The American Free Press ?
    Possibly you are a plant……………….

    • Thinking About

      Did AFP not inform you Paul was one of four republicans who requested earmarks in 2011? If they did not then the facts are easy for you to gather. Until you have complied facts perhaps you are the one to fact check.

      • DaveH

        Speaking of facts, TA, where are your references? You surely don’t think we would just take your word for it?

        • Thinking about

          dave, if you can type you can find references but you have to be willing to look to reliable sources which may not contain information you want to hear.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    My experience with Greeks in Australia during the 1960′s was that the women worked hard in the factories while the men had an easy life playing cards and drinking coffee in the Cafes. They only complained if their wives lost their jobs otherwise life was good. The men always found some excuse not to work by pretending to have injured their legs or backs in order to claim financial compensation and of course not being able to get up to go the work was the main game.

    Some years later I recall when I was managing several thousand trust funds accounts of the numerous Greek names of children without injuries who would come to collect their road trauma insurance payouts when they became of age.

    These are my experiences and the best of all in the 1980′s when a Greek guy who took over a company by buying shares in an insurance company called BISHOPGATE INSURANCES using company funds,selling all the investments and buying bearer bonds and then disappearing to Greece with $10 Million in Australian Government Guranteed BEARER BONDS which in those days was a lot of money never to be seen again. Some Greeks are clever.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THIS STORY…

    Andrew Stathis was a high-flier. The son of Greek migrants
    who grew up in Cowra, Stathis was educated at Sydney’s exclusive
    Cranbrook School where he was chairman of the Cranbrook
    Adventurers’ Club. His greatest adventures—and misadventures—lay
    ahead.
    Stathis made a small fortune from real estate in the boom of the
    early ’70s. He was building a name for himself at high-stake card
    games and prominent race meetings. In 1979 he was charged under
    the name of Andreas Stathopolous with conspiracy to cultivate Indian
    hemp. He was committed for trial in 1980 but remained free on
    $20,000 bail.
    Within two years he was a member of the elite insurance company
    owners, buying a company from no lesser firm than the old and proud
    P&O. Nine months and $19 million later Stathis had fled both the
    industry and the country. Banks, brokers, public companies: all had
    been victims of Andrew Stathis. How could a high-rolling gambler
    on bail for an alleged drugs offence hoodwink the business establishment?

    POSTSCRIPT
    Andrew Stathis continued to tempt fate, and without success. In
    October 1987, he was arrested by Greek authorities while in
    possession of 23 kilograms of heroin. As a Greek national, Stathis
    could not be extradited to Australia under the extradition agreement
    which exists between the two nations. He could, however, be
    prosecuted in Greece by Greek authorities on behalf of New South
    Wales or Australian Federal authorities. Given the seriousness of
    the charges he faced under Greek law, however, parallel prosecution
    on Australian charges hardly seemed necessary. Whatever the
    outcome, Stathis appeared likely to remain a prisoner in Greece
    for many years.

  • Maidenamerica

    We’ve come a piece from the commentary on RP. From what I’ve been able to discern, his comments are politicaly incorrect, but fall short of racism. To assert that one should be wary of black men (as a group) ia to comment statistics. Black men in this country are arrested for committing violent crimes in greater numbers in this country than others, followed somewhat closely in number by hispanic males who happen to be illegal. What is racist about the statement of fact? Why would one NOT be wary of this population? And why is the statement racist if factual?

  • Uncle Jimmy

    Lol 725 responses tell me something: there’s a whole lot of support for the guy who cant win. The number of voters decides the winner , not the media. They are trying though. Bob Livingston you are true patriot . Keep up the good work. Turn off yout television and turn on the Internet . The media repeats lies and out of context facts, as a tool of suggestion. Conservatives have known this for a long time. No one points out that in the newsletters, there were many many more articles in defense of blacks and injustice they have received. Ron paul supporters do their homework on the candidates and already knew about this. So the media doesent have much on the guy. So now they will take out of context facts to make a man who has dedicated his life to freedom of all people and come with the unoriginal attack that your a racist when nothing else seems to work . This man has worked with minorities all his life and everything in his actions have denounced inequality. So now some republicans are acting the way they have accused democrats of acting for years through the left wing media resorting to ad hominem attacks agianst a very honorable man. Nelson Linder and the NAACP Austin chapter released a statement , that you won’t here in the media ,more than likely, saying basically; I have worked with Ron Paul for twenty years, and is fact that he is not a racist, he is a friend of minorities, as he doesn’t believe in collectives(paraphrasing) . You can read the whole statement on NAACP austnin chapters webs site. There is also a video of an interview with Linder on you tube speaking his views of the letters and Ron Paul and things Paul has actually written in defense of minorities. Nelson Linder is a friend of Ron paul and the truth, are you? If nietzche were alive today, he might say, “Ron Paul is the only true republican there ever was”. Ron Paul is so conservative he may just conserve the republic. And that is what the powers are scared of , a true republican form of government, a republic . I stand with Bob Livingston and Ron Paul and liberty. We are true republicans . Are you?

    • DaveH

      The Establishment Leaders are going to pull out all the stops in an effort to thwart the President (Ron Paul) who is going to upset their apple-carts. We can expect a lot more of breathless grasping for straws by the Establishment of both major parties as they all have a lot to lose if Ron Paul gets elected. Their loss is our gain.

  • Ridge Runner

    Does ron paul use drugs I personaly don’t know.If he does he is incontrol because he has never to my knowledge been in trouble.It isn’t the drugs fhat causes yhese people problems but the people them selfs.I don’t use drugs and don’t intend to or hope i never need to.I once called a fellow a drug headed sob and this fellow heard me and said wait a minute just because a fellow pops a few pills.smpkes a little dope dont mean he is a sob he was s sob before he used any dope and i had to agree with himbecause i have known several people that were users and never had aproblem worked every day and supported their selfs and a family.These people that are using alcohol and drugs and geting into troubleare the very ones that shpuldn’t.I have always said a drunk person’s actions are a sober person’s thoughts and that fits that man’s Obersavitation that he was already an sob. It is a person’s personality that is their actions under the influnce.

    • Uncle Jimmy

      Ron Paul does not use drugs and advises against it. The other night on Leno he said he believes that wearing seat belts is a good idea , but he doesn’t believe in seat belt laws . He believes in leading by example and not by force . He believes in freedom for all, because people deserve freedom and we should be careful about giving it up for security. If we eliminated cars tomorrow , we could save many lives . Do you want ton live in a society with no cars . But if we eliminate government tyranny we could save many more and freedom of the world in the process by being a good example and trading with all nation to wealth for them and us. We have forgotten what real freedom is , to A degree. We should live for ourselves and the government protect that freedom for us . The government is there so that we can live , not there to tell us how much freedom we have . It supposed to protect the rights of the people not ration them out and contol our standard of living.

  • http://personallibertydigest wyatt

    It’s time all of you that won’t vote for someone because you think they can’t win. Start by getting yourself back on track and vote who you actually believe in. Then,when we actually vote for who,and what, we think is right(not the Media’s pick) We will get someone we can trust.

  • Henry

    All of a sudden conservatives are concerned about rasist comments. The right and left wing corruption machines are beginning to choke as the air turns blue around Ron Pauls message. To all of you who believe we should continue turning fueding sects of Muslim countries against each other, and support going to war against all countries with nuclear capabilities that threaten Israel, to protect Israel. You will be responsible for this countries demise. Please don’t listen to the politically motivated pundits, they’re only concerned about pushing an agenda that puts big money in their pockets. VOTE RON PAUL!

  • BobDin

    I can’t see why any conservative or moderate would even consider Ron Paul. His views of border security, drugs national security and foreign affairs are more liberal than Obama’s. I can say I agree with a few of his smaller government ideas. However he is the the only Republican Candidate I would never consider voting for, under any circumstances. It’s hard to Imagine why he is a registered Republican. I wouldn’t consider him a Libertarian either. I guess he is in the oddball catagory.

    • Bob

      Anyone that wants to keep drugs in schools and out of pharmacies and stores where you need an ID to buy them is an oddball. Ron Paul is on the side of the people and trying to label it as one thing or another is simply narrow-minded thinking. His foreign policy is neither left, nor right, it’s just correct.

      As for the border, all we need to do is jail employers and sell off their businesses to the employees, or let them sell it to a competing business for cash. Let them stay, and let the fool that hired them stay in prison for a few years and lose his job and nobody will hire them and they will stop coming across.

      I can’t see how someone would be so two-dimensional as to think the left and right somehow oppose each other when anybody paying attention understands they are marching to the same beat. They’re each taking the freedoms from half the country in synchronized de-industrialization of the country. Clinton and Bush and Obama are all for the “race to the bottom” trying to compete with slave labor. Anybody with an IQ above 60 should realize that Ron Paul is the only one that intends to do what the people want and need to be done. None of those other clowns do anything but fight for Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan, with their sidekicks at GE(NBC), and FOX, and ABC, and CBS.

  • uncle jimmy

    If you are luke warm , I spew you out of my mouth . Moderates have ruined this country and republicans with the exception of the two bush presidents , republican haven been elected to end war warren buffers father was republican congressmen who warned of interventionist policy as general rul after ww2 ,as did taft . This republican notion of war is rather new historically outside our borders. Repiublicans histrically have been elected to end war . To you people who doubt ron paul I don’t hate you , I just think you have misguided good intentions on foreign policy , as I believe democrats have misguided good intentions on food intentions on welfare and domestic policy. Republicans, with the exception of the bush’s have generally been for strong defense but against being the policemen of the world. Buffets father addressed congress years ago was an outspoken opponent of foreign intervention and the consequences . There are consequence to actions. What happens when the angry mobs we have bullied rally against us . Who is safe then . Every empire has gone down because of war and currency destruction . Learn your history my friends
    Woodrow wilson democrat
    FDR democrat ww1
    Truman democrat ww2
    LbJ democrat korea
    Bill clinton democrat
    Eisenhower a republican got us out of korea and warned of the military industrial complex. You have been the victim of incomplete history lessons my friends. Learn your history , these are not radical ideas these are sensible ideas and realize this is what the founders warned off. Ron paul is not against protecting the us , but he believes you declare war and make the case. He warned of retaliation in 1998 and made speeches trying to warn americans about the possibility of attacks in retaliation for our occupation . The man wanted to impeach clinton over bombing iraq and bosnia and going to war without a declaration or reason of national defense . He warned of the housing crisis in 2002 . His ideas are not new to republican party but renewed . We can be a part of something special people. Ignore the doubters , it is in our hands. Ron paul wants to return not to isolationism but trade with all nations. Trade goods not bombs .
    Ron Paul 2012
    Dropping knowledge bombs

  • uncle jimmy

    Woodrow wilson ww1
    Fdr ww2
    Truman korea
    LBJ vietnam
    Clinton iraq and bosnia
    Sorry about the typos , I’m on a phone and can barely see what I’m doing . Sorry

    • Paradigmshift

      Ha Ha Ha, I like you Uncle Jimmy!!

  • hoser

    I’m an Iowa Republican and Dr Ron Paul is the only candidate I’m voting for. In the Primary and General election. The Republican party is F-ing joke. Our two party system is two heads of the same dragon. We need to cut them both off and start anew. Paul will get this ship headed in the right direction. I still would like to know who he’s considering as a running mate?

    • SpecialKinNJ

      Rand? ‘T would be a national dynasty in the making.

  • justperhaps45

    Ron Paul has several positions in the correct direction. He just goes too, too far.

    Note: He has been in Congress for many years and has not attracted a dependable following among those who should know him well. Maybe he isn’t much of a leader. WE NEED A PROVEN LEADER. A leader with a learning curve but solid, foundational, principals.

    • Paradigmshift

      What an idiotic thing to say, he’s been a Texas Representative for ten years, he has never, never flip-flopped on any issue, he always votes Constitutionally! He IS a proven leader. He is highly respected by his peers in Congress, many of them are in awe of him because he does what they dare not do, he stands against the powers that be, the shadow government, if you will. They know that the minute that they do the same thing, the CFR will open the dossier with their name on it, and their career as a lifetime politician will be over. Do you want Newt? Read my post at the beginning of this discussion. He’s a Communist New World Order Oligarch,just like Obama!

      • Thinking about

        Is he respected for being one of four republicians to ask for earmarks in 2011?

  • Robert, TX

    I am amazed at the number of people who put their party affiliation ahead of EVERYTHING else in their life. For me, God and Family (and to me they are one in the same) come first – and our founders came to American for that very reason. Second, is our Constitution, that provided for our liberty and our #1 priority. A distant third, would be our community and our state. And I could go on and on and NEVER mention these ridiculous parties – that serve the same masters. For most of those people their house (and which neighborhood they live in) is #1, their car is #2 and their political party is #3. And you can notice ALL that is missing.

    • Paradigmshift

      Right On!!

  • Alyn from Canada

    It would not be the end of the world if America got out of the Middle East altogether, since I think that without American interference the Middle East problem would have been settled a long time ago.
    My problem with Ron Paul is that I am not convinced that he would stop supporting the Arab side of the conflict. His statement that Israel is more trouble then what its worth suggests that the Arab side must be alot less trouble to support which would mean problems for the only democracy in the Middle East.
    The other problem with Ron Paul’s ideas are that as more and more of Europe becomes muslim, the pressure on America will increase whether it has an isolationist policy or not.
    This unfortunately makes some kind of an American presence in the world a necessity,although I don’t think America needs to be involved in everything. Europe should be pressured to take more responsibility for it’s own defense. And since Mr. Paul hates the idea of supporting the Jews even that problem could be solved humanely if America developed an alternative to oil, since without oil money to support their Jihad wars, the muslims would be forced to stop just as the Soviet Union ceased activities when it ran out of money.

  • Paradigmshift

    He has never said that Israel is more trouble than it is worth!
    He said no such thing, proof please?

  • http://www.infowars.com/ Ben Dover (America)

    Yes, it truly is astounding, the depth of ignorance of the American people. Fortunately, people in Iowa are awake. Let’s hope they’ve awakened elsewhere, too. Ron Paul is the ONLY honest, consistent candidate, that is NOT bought-and-paid-for – unlike, EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE (most especially Obama) in the 2012 Presidential race. His is the ONLY platform, that seeks to RESTORE AMERICA NOW. And, yet, people turn on their t.v.s, to listen to complete and utter blather, on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX. It boggles the mind, how people can be so incredibly, and profoundly gullible.

  • Vagn

    Israel while promoting diversity internationally is one of the most racist nations on earth. The establishment candidates all support Israel so the hypocrisy is obvious.
    With the population dumbed down, MSM can assert anything its want and people will fall in line.

    • Marc Emelianenko

      Lest I be called a Zionist, or worse, I think we should withdraw financial aid from all the Middle Eastern countries, including Israel.

      That said, how do you arrive at the conclusion that Israel is one of the most racist nations on earth? The Knesset has around 120 members, which includes about a dozen Arabs. Some of these Arabs are sworn enemies of Israel, although they continue to live in Israel because it beats the alternatives by a mile! Israel accepts these members because, unlike her surrounding countries, she abides by the rule of law and protects minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

      These Arabs were duly elected so Israel seats them as full-standing members of the Knesset. Israel does a good, but not perfect job, just like the USA. Always remember that perfect is the enemy of good. If you want perfection, then consider sharia law – just ask any Muslim – any Muslim man anyway!

      • Paradigmshift

        http://www.biblebelievers.biz/israel.htm
        Search: The life of an American Jew in Racist, Marxist Israel
        Of coarse, the man who wrote the article has been “suicided!”
        It’s a myth that Israel has a Democratic form of government, just go to Israel and find a Christian and see if he can carry his Bible around with him!

  • CaptTurbo

    I stand firmly behind the highly principled Dr. Paul.

    • bud

      let me see Chamberlain was highly principled, but stupid. hitler was highly principled but evil(whoa, I almost said jimmy carter was highly principled but we know he was stupid, vacuous, inane, antiAmerican and ugly

  • bud

    wow, typical purposely misguided speech typical of the left wing that is. now you have transferred the authorship of the “worst” law in history to a Republican. I am not a strong supporter of Mitt, but he is a much better choice than Paul and it is not called Mitt care law it is called obummer healthcare because he and his leftwing pro islam senate, with help from some RHINO republicans passed it without even knowing what was in it.
    By the way I know many people who travel to Israel every year or so and not only do they take the Bible with them, they very openly have Christian worship services every day and night.
    Now that is not to say the Jews are the brightest people in the world, especially not those in America who support democrats no matter how bad it is for their race. Just like the many thousands of Jewish supporters of hitler – they sometimes are BLIND, but that may be Gods plan (I don’t know)

    • Paradigmshift

      Are you drunk? Because you are wrong, the Jewish people are highly intelligent. I understand that there are Evangelicals that travel to Israel, they have a guide and are restricted from seeing the more (cough, cough) troubling areas. They may be allowed to carry their Bibles,(after all… tourism is important to their economy.) but upon arrival in Tel Aviv their bags are checked to make sure they’re not full of Bibles. I’m talking about Israeli Christians.

  • http://yahoo fredh

    The powers and media are trying to call Ron Paul a Racist.

    Question: What is a racist? The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 created these problems. It was suppose to help the blacks, but two hours before congress was to vote on the bill, the powers put in women as a minority , and most congressman did not no it was in their. What this means, is that every American is a minority , except white men. So every time a white man complains , he label a RACIST. Fred

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    DaveH, I had almost forgotten about Ludwik Von Mises, for his teachings and those of Frederik Von Hayek, and Milton Freidman where some of the ones we supported and promoted in the 1970′s as part of our political movement in Australia. We were a small group then called crackpots but some of our policies soon caught on with our small government ideas some years later by our Liberal Party who began selling school buildings and train carriages to Japanese investors, they sold off most of their business assets… Commonwealth Bank, Telstra, most of the gas & electricity utility generation and distribution companies, Quantas and not before time as some of these assets which while they achievede mega $billions where getting to the end of their economic and technilogical use by date, but they were able to sell their shares to the very citizens who already indirectly owned these assets by being a citizen member of our country. It was a great economic feat really. They realised that big government had to become small government and get out of the way of free enterprise business activity.But in the 1970′s Australia had a very strong hardline Tramways Union and very much part of our socialist leaning current Labor Party who saw that a real threat to their power of controlling the workers through compulsory unionism. They were but wont admit or even acknowlege it, responsible for Australia’s first political murder of a young fit committed political free enterprise activist by the name of PAUL KRUTULIS IN 1977 [Read page 207 TRADE UNION SECURITY LAW- A Study of Preference and Compulsory Unionism by Phillipa Weeks.]

    Ron Paul is having a good try at changing the way of thinking of many so called small government Republicans and Conservatives who only pay lip service to the real ideals of small government policies. I dont hold much confidence that Ron Paul alone will be able to change your mainstream politicians amd government administrator heads of departments during just one political campaign as I feel it will take several attempts just as it took almost 20 years in Australia to have our Liberal Party adopt some of what some of you call the Austrian School of Economics which I totally support, but which in reality we have many stronger political forces strongly defending their government power bases…wanting to control and copy what the failed socialists in other countries have tried but failed miserably to achieve. This is why I play ‘devils advocate’ in this forum…so you may understand that there is no point debating with the converted in these forums unless a smarter simpler method cannot be developed and be used to debate with the main voting groups to gather their support. Then only will you get real change…or some change.

  • Kenneth E. Welch

    All I have to say is:VOTE FOR RON PAUL OR NOT AT ALL!

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      Kenneth E.Welch…you are wrong to give such bad advice. Not voting is NOT good advice, as it increases your opposing groups advantage and makes their larger percentage gain make them believe their policies must be good because they they win with a greater margin against the losing candidates.. When you dont vote, it means you will agree with the outcome so in effect you are still voting the cowards way.[Not impliying your a coward]

  • Dan S.

    To me Ron Paul says things I dont fully agree with, But… does he stand a chance to win? I hope so, because there is no winner till the end result. If one can be persuaded by a bunch of BS, then there is no liberty. Ron Paul does have the following of most military contribution supporters than ANY of the other candidates as well as them all put together. He is recieving support from ALL parties voters, including dems and reps. More and more young voters and older voters alike are streaming their support towards Ron Paul, so if anyone counts him out, they are for sure in denial. The first words I heard from president Obama’s mouth, I knew it was lies. The words I hear from almost every candidate these days, is lies. Im not ever going to sway my beliefs anymore to allow some liar in one faction or another to win the presidential election. Voting the lessor of two evils dont work, so why fall on that double edged sword again. All I can say… go Ron go, sending you more money today. get er done.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    I dont think Ron Paul is electable for two main reasons. One, he is too old, as we all witnessed what happened when the Republicans screwed up and tried to run an old man against the young up and coming. It doesnt work. There are too many young people voting, and too, too many people tired of guys who have been politicians forever. Second reason, is Ron Paul comes across as a whiny wimp. Now dont get me wrong, I dont feel this way. I think he has a great platform and great ideas, and I am still considering voting for him. But when I look at the voter base as a whole, I just dont see him garnering many votes. I mean, If Im a guy looking for a change, and I really want something different, and Im still not certain if Im wasting my vote and giving Obama the edge, because if I, a guy who wants something different feels this way, a guy who has done his homework, I know that those who vote for people because they bought millions of dollars of commercials yelling change, change, change, well they arent going to vote for him, because they are into appeal and hearing false bravado, and Ron isnt an appealing candidate that way. For right or wrong, he just doesnt have that appeal of being strong that I want my president to have. Neither does Obama, but thats another story indeed.

    • SpecialKinNJ

      He isn’t a politician who’s been around too long–
      as a recommendation for Ron Paul was suggested.
      ” . . . Paul was re-elected to his tenth term in Congress during November 2006. …”(according Google after a quick check)
      A long time, one might say uncontested.

      And, of course, he’s no youth. In fact he’s now rather long in the tooth.

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

        I disagree with you SpecialKinNJ …Dr Ron Paul is not long in the tooth as he is a very wise man. When you vote for Ron Paul you are voting for a different system of running your country and I hope to god that Ron Paul has a team of youngesters who learning to be his understudys to contest every other State to help implement his ideals from the ground up while Ron Paul works it from the top down.

        I’d like to hear more about his team of supporters and who would be his Vice Presidential choice. Behind every great man like RON PAUL, there would be a great team of dedicated followers and administrators who will be delegated to help him implement his policies. .

        In Australia… When we vote for a leader…we are getting his leadership team which is part of either one of the two major political partieswho have a mach9ine with a range of policies they wish to implement…and usually promoted during the election campaign.

  • Jay

    Ron Paul represents the ideology that Republican insiders most fear: conservatism.

    Not the corrupt, inside-the-beltway construct that goes by that name, but actual conservatism.

    And if he wins the Iowa Republican Caucus vote on January 3—a real, though far from certain, prospect—the party bosses will have to do everything in their power to prevent Paul from reasserting the values of the “old-right” Republicans who once stood, steadily and without apology, in opposition to wars of whim and assaults on individual liberty.

    Make no mistake, the party bosses are horrified at the notion that a genuine conservative might grab the Iowa headlines from the false prophets. Already, they are claiming a Paul win won’t mean anything. If Paul prevails, says Iowa Governor Terry Branstad, “People are going to look at who comes in second and who comes in third. If [Mitt] Romney comes in a strong second, it definitely helps him going into New Hampshire and the other states.”

    The party’s amen corner in the media is doing its part. Republican-insider radio and television programs have begun to go after Paul, the veteran congressman from Texas who is either leading or near the top in recent polls of likely caucus goers. Rush Limbaugh ridicules Paul on his radio show, while Sean Hannity’s Fox show has become a nightly Paul-bashing fest, with guests like former Education Secretary Bill Bennett trashing the congressman with lines like: “his notion of foreign policy is impossible.”

    Actually, Paul’s notion of foreign policy is in line with that of conservatives used to believe. The congressman is often referred to as a libertarian, and he has certainly toiled some in that ideological vineyard. But the truth is that his politics descend directly from those of former Ohio Senator Robert “Mr. Republican” Taft and former Nebraska Congressman Howard Buffett—old-right opponents of war and empire who served in the Congress in the 1940s and 1950s and who, in Taft’s case, mounted credible bids for the party’s presidential nomination in 1940, 1948 and finally in 1952.

    In all three campaigns, Taft opposed what he described as the “Eastern establishment” of the party—the Wall Streeters who, he pointedly noted, had little in common with Main Streeters.

    http://www.npr.org/2011/12/22/144122913/the-nation-why-do-gop-bosses-fear-ron-paul

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Maybe Ron Paul can win. But why would we want him to win if there are 2 or 3 much better choices?? As the new year approaches, we must remember that this is the most critical election in history. Consider recent polls, which show Obama rising in job approval ratings. That’s pathetic, given that BHO is such a proven failure!! Of course, it is our side that is much to blame, given that we just do not (yet) have a good choice to challenge BHO 11 months from now. E.g., why is Ron Paul rising in popularity?? He may be better on some domestic issues than BHO, but is just another George McGovern on foreign policy. So why would we nominate someone who can’t honestly debate BHO on foreign policy?? Remember – Ron Paul may be like Nixon, but the opposite. Nixon was good on foreign policy, but a (liberal) disaster on domestic issues; including but not limited to the creation of the EPA. I believe Paul will be a disaster on security and defense if elected.

    Clearly there are better choices. Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachmann are the type we should vote for in primaries. Likewise, I’d like to see Herman Cain re-enter the race. He needs to fight back against the lies and/or frivolous allegations of sexual harassment, and should sue his accusers where appropriate. GET REAL!! We need true conservatives – not nincompoops like Ron Paul or RINOs like Romney or Huntsman. LOOK AT HISTORY!! Although not perfect, Ronald Reagan was a bold outspoken conservative, and he won in 2 landslides. The weak moderates Gerald Ford, Bob Dole and John McCain lost!! VOTE WISELY IN THE PRIMARIES!!!!

  • Jay

    The big open secret about Ron Paul is that he is a powerhouse in the 2012 presidential race, not some little nobody who can be pushed around. He is not simply running on a political platform to get a fifth of the votes and go home, he is leading a revolution of ideas that is awakening a revolutionary nation from a long, media-induced sleep.

  • Paula

    I would compare Paul to Obama in the fact that they are both idiots. We do not need to become a nation of isolationists and pretend the rest of the world doesn’t exists. Which is what Paul wants. He thinks we can play nice with Iran, that is crazy idea. Iran has no plans to play nice with us. If we appear weak they would attack us in a second, and really can you image Paul as commander in chief? Going back to the gold standard would bankrupt this country. Paul is living in a world that existed 60 years ago. I can understand wanting something new in government, especially after Obama. But I am afraid Paul has it all wrong. This is an unsafe world and we need a president that will protect us and make the tough decisions. Not a president that will bury his head in the sand and pretend that dangers do not exist. IF NOTHING ELSE YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND SECURITY. I have not decided which Republican I will vote for, put it will not be Paul. Some of you are right he doesn’t change ideas and opinion. But, really as the world changes don’t you think your opinion and ideas should change. Paul’s ideas are very frightening to me.

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      Paula, you are wrong…Ron Paul does not need to act like a thug to be a strong leader. Diplomacy and education can solve many of the worlds problems but America under Dr Ron Paul will not be closing down the defence department. Do you protect your security by walking down the street looking like a belligerent thug?

  • Jay

    Ron Paul offers libertarian solutions: sound money, balanced budgets and adhering to the Constitution. But Paul does not advocate isolationism. In fact, Paul has repeatedly said in debates, interviews and speeches that he advocates open trade, travel, communication and diplomacy with all nations.

    Paul often mentions how we continued to talk with Soviets during the Cold War and how maybe, just maybe, that kept the Cold War from becoming a hot war.

    So, why do anti-Paul-bots call Ron Paul an isolationist? BECAUSE PAUL IS OPPOSED TO “NATION BUILDING,” WHICH IS CODE FOR THE INVASION, OCCUPATION AND INSTALLATION OF GOVERNMENTS “FRIENDLY” TO THE UNITED STATES. All other candidates advocate, and will continue such policy. They apparently see Iraq and Afghanistan as successes and cannot wait to do the same in Iran, Syria and other Middle East counties.

    In a Ron Paul presidency, “nation building” would not be part of his foreign policy, therefore, Ron Paul is NOT an ISOLATIONIST, but a NON-INTERVENTIONIST! Apparently, anti-Paul-bots seem incapable of making that distinction, and with good reasons. Having been spood-fed by the fear-moungering media for decades now, pulling their heads out, or accessing a dictionary to confirm correct definition of Isolationism and comparing it to Ron Paul’s foreign policy, at this juncture, may be too much of a shock for the feeble-minded lemmings!

  • James

    Presidents can decide which laws should be enforced and which should be ignored. Ron Paul would enforce our immigration laws and stop the influx of illegal aliens. He would also reign in the EPA, and execute everyone therein he doesn’t approve of. Presidents have power to wage war wherever they want.

  • Gus

    I consider myself a conservative and I will support Ron Paul. Beware of some liberal thoughts of some of the so-called Republican candidates. Too many of them are in a struggle for power and aren’t too concerned with the state of this country. When I hear one candidate belittling another, I feel that he has run out of “good stuff” to say about himself. I would like the candidates to believe that the American voters are smart enough to weed out the bull and select the right person to beat that muslim loving, white hating monkey that now roosts in the Whitehouse and has stolen enough of the taxpayers’ money.

  • nonannystate

    As I read these comments I am stunned by the unwillingness of people to educate themselves regarding the principles this nation was founded on. I too once thought that Ron Paul’s positions were a little out there. Once I began to educate myself it was amazing how his position became centered in our Founding Principles. We have been so conditioned to accept the current condition of our country that many don’t seem to be able to look at the whole arguement. It seems to me that many of America’s citizens have Stockholm Syndrome. They have come to embrace the evil of the capturer. Only a willingness to do an honest assessment can open eyes.

  • P Smith

    I cannot believe that Obama states on his website, that millions are behind him.Once again he’s a bogus liar. There’s no way in hell that there’s enough peoplein this country that believe his outrageous speal.That man thinks that he deserves to be up on that mountain with the other Presidents. He is one self absorbed creature. I am voting for Ron Paul, along with,”millions” who do want to get it right this time. We do not want to be lied to again. What? Does Obama think we forgot about all those promises that were made and broken,the minute he stepped into that White House? The most opened administration ever? What a laugh. He’s hiding his birth certificate for God’s sake.Then there’s the backdoor amnesty! The only way Obama could win would be by cheating and lying.Just as he did the first time!I for one do not want a black muslim/socialist as a President.I believe in this country’s constitution, and there’s only one man that can bring this country back to what she deserves to be.Dr. Ron Paul is being backed by college students, the military, etc; They are sick and tired of fighting wars that we donot need to be in. The first time I listened to Mitt Romney,the first thing he said was, “The first thing I’m going to do is add to our military, and strengthen it!” My first thought was, Where’s this money coming from? These people do not get it! Ron Paul understands and he’s the best man for the job. He admits that how he comes across is one of his weaknesses, but givin’ the chance, he will be understood that what he wants is to give back our freedom from goverment. To keep what we have made, and not to jump into wars that are not of our making.If you look into what Dr. Paul has said from the beginning, he has predicted everything that has happened to this country, and it is not pretty. Ron Paul has a plan to fix our country!

    • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

      P.Smith, I wont call Obama a lier but it is just poltical marketing and spin as he cant afford to look defeated or depressed when the nations economy could get much worse if more consumers were made to realise how bad the ecomomy really was.

      • T.Paine

        Why? Obozo IS a liar…hell his whole democratic party is made up of liars !!

  • BrotherPatriot

    Thank you for helping to reveal the true criminals that exist behind the curtain of our society, Mr. Livingston. Though everyone neglects to talk about them, the New World Order/Bilderberg and variously named organisations, are THE reason our world is the way that it is. It’s a planned Agenda.

    I’m impressed and appreciative of your efforts regarding this fight we are all in. Only by speaking the truth can we ever have a real chance of being the people we were always meant to be.

    Free & Independant.

    God Bless.

  • H. D. Schmidt

    Unless Ron Paul becomes the next President, America will continue on the road to hell like all previous Empires. He is the only politician that tells the truth, while every single one of the other aspirants are nothing but liars!

  • Chris Kirkendall

    Sorry to say, I’m unsubscribing from this newletter because of your support for the nut-case Ron Paul. I’m a Conservative, and I don’t like what this has become. Ron Paul is NOT a Conservative, people – get that thru your heads! His positions on 9-11 & foreign policy are to the LEFT of people like Al Gore, John Kerry, even Obama. His disregard for Israel is shocking & disgraceful, and his former aide has said that in private, Paul doesn’t think Israel even has a right to exist & should give back all their land. His defense of Iran’s quest for nukes is indefensible. Much of his support comes from folks on the far Left. His advisory panel on revamping & drastically cutting our military is full of Progressives (i.e., Socialists ) & even avowed Communists. Many of the organizations he’s drawn these folks from are funded by George Soros. Come ON, folks – WAKE UP ! ! Paul is not a Republican, certainly not a Conservative, possibly a Libertarian, but a very anti-American & Left-leaning one. I’m convinced he’s actually a Leftist who just happens to have sound economic views but that’s it. That is NOT enough to get my Conservative vote. Ron Paul is a dangerous man & a disgrace. Wake up & stop drinking the Kool-Aid. I’m outta here – GOODBYE…

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Chris Kirkendall,

      I can understand why you would run away. Liberty and the Constitution will require you to stand on your own. That’s a difficult proposition for many. I can see by the inaccurate way you described Ron Paul that you have only consumed the garbage you’ve been fed by the MSM and haven’t done any actual study yourself. Continue to hide behind your Mommy’s skirts and you will continue to get what you’ve always gotten.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • T.Paine

    I LOVE Pauls domestic policies-but I detest his foreign views. We don’t live in the 18th Century anymore nor will we again.
    And please tell me this….why would Ron Paul have ANYTHING to do with the likes of a scumbag nazi collaborator like George Soros??

  • Errol

    I can;t understand why Liberty is a such a strong advocate to Ron Paul, you definitely have not done your homework,Did you just jump on the good ship lollipop whit Shirley Temple. None are perfect but Ron would look like Howdy Dody on the world stage.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Errol,

      If you had done your homework and could step outside the pablum being spoon fed to you by the MSM, you’d understand.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

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