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Controversy Surrounds Congressional Hearings On Radical Muslims

March 15, 2011 by  

Controversy surrounds Congressional hearings on radical MuslimsA Congressional hearing on the radicalization of Muslim Americans has garnered a great deal of attention in recent days.

The March 10 session, which was spearheaded by Representative Peter King (R-N.Y.), lasted more than four hours. Although the meeting was slated to be a civil discussion about the impact of Muslim radicalization in the United States, many Democrats used the platform to make statements about the hearing's apparent violation of human rights.

According to media reports, Representative Laura Richardson (D-Calif.) went so far as to compare King's efforts to former Senator Joe McCarthy's hearings about the potential spread of Communism in 1954. Representative Al Green (D-Texas) asked lawmakers why there wasn't a legislative session devoted to the Ku Klux Klan.

Melvin Bledsoe, a Tennessee man, was one of several witnesses that addressed the hearing's topic rather than questioning the merit of the event. Bledsoe's son, Carlos, converted from Christianity to Islam at age 19, then shot two U.S. Army troops in 2009. He blamed Islamic extremists for brainwashing his son, adding that many American children are in danger of being recruited by terrorists.

Bledsoe expressed confusion about the Democrats' staunch resistance to discussing radical Islam on U.S. turf, saying that many of them do not understand the severity of the problem.

In a March 11 column for CNN.com, William J. Bennett defended the hearings. To provide context, he said that any Presidential candidate who did not acknowledge the presence of radical Muslims in America would be quickly discounted by the public.

"The candidate would be seen as unserious, out of touch, not up to the task or just plain wrong. The campaign would be over. And yet, for the weeks and months leading up to the hearing that took place at the House Homeland Security Committee on Thursday, critics have cried foul," Bennett wrote.

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  • Jeremy Leochner

    The issue is a matter of reality. To call someone who is a terrorist a terrorist and to call an innocent person innocent and to treat them as such is recognizing reality. Radicals, Extremists, and Terrorists are something far different from Muslims and Islam. A disagreement I feel towards these hearing is where and how is the distinction found between Muslims and Terrorists. To say someone is not a terrorist when they are not a terrorist is logical, moral and true. So too is treatment and recognition of them as innocent or guilty. To act like Terrorism and Radicalism among followers of Islam is to ignore a clear and true threat. But to act as though anyone who is a follower of Islam could be suspected or accused of terrorism or terrorist sympathy based solely on religion is unjust and violates the spirit of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

    • David

      Anyone who is muslim or follows islam should be labeled a terrorist and dealt with accordingly. There ARE NO “moderate” muslims.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Then David why is it that Muslims have spoken out against terrorism and violence. Why is it muslims I have known for years do not preach radicalism or extremism. Unless every single muslim man women and child is a terrorist you cannot call them terrorists.

        • independant thinker

          I have never heard an emphatic, absolute condemnation of terrorism and those muslims who commit terroristic acts by any muslim. I have heard some give a mealy-mouth “I do not approve of violence” comments but no condemnation. In fact the muslims are much more vocal in condeming a perseved slight than they are in condeming terrorism.

          • 45caliber

            They have spent over a thousand years being punished for even thinking that someone who claims to be Muslim would be wrong when dealing with a non-Muslim. And if he kills a Muslim and claims it was for religious reasons, how can he be wrong? If you state he was, you are guilty of the religion and could be safely stoned to death or beheaded.

            How can you expect them to overcome over a thousand years of this teaching and fear just because the Muslims involved were wrong?

          • Jana

            45,
            Go to the website of; Sharia Law – Video Results and click on Sharia Law and the U.S. Constitution. It is Feisal Abdul Rauf explaining “how they are the same” (big time NOT)

          • Jana

            fiddle, it did not come up. I yahooed Sharia Law and one of the sites is Sharia Law and the American Constitution. It is well worth the 3 minute video. It shows Rauf snickering at the fact that we are all equal, even women.
            He states that in the Constitution we have the Unalienable rights, Not INALIENABLE RIGHTS, to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which to him is property. Of course, to Muslims women are still considered their property to treat humanely on inhumanely, at their discretion.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          Maybe they just don’t do it in your presence.

    • Warlord X

      Like most Americans, you clearly do not understand the concept of Islam. Islam, or more commonly, Muslims participate in a POLITICAL

      • Warlord X

        (Continued due to a computer hiccup) Islam is primarily a POLITICAL system with religious undertones to give it validity. Hence, the continued call for SHARIA LAW. It has been radicalized by certain elements of that society and will continue to be. Therefore any call for religious freedom for Islam, will include subjugation and assimilation of LOCAL populations.

        In my opinion, everyone is free to worship whatever they wish. But only so long as it does not infringe on my, or others, rights not to do so. When Islam accepts that, I’ll accept Islam.
        DE OPPRESSO LIBER

        • Jeremy Leochner

          Warlord I know several muslims. One recently told me that Sharia Law is no different from the Ten Commandments of The Christian or Jewish Faiths. Its laws governening muslims in the same manner. Are you saying Christians or Jews are political since various groups within both religions have petitioned for the Ten Commandments to be put in schools and Court Houses and have proclaimed them to be the basis of our countries law code. A muslim worshipping Islam is not infringing on anyones rights. Extremist action does but if someone has not committed action against others you cannot call them an extremist or say they are infringing on others rights. With all due respect is not calling Islam a political ideology and treating muslims like outsiders and extremists a violation of their rights to free expression and of religion.

          • Jana

            Jeremy,
            Then your friends must either be practicing Taqiyah with you or are very misinformed. Taqiyah in Islam is it is alright to tell a lie to an infidel (you if you don’t believe in allah) to cause you to believe what they want you to believe.

            Sharia Law is Because, by definition: Muslim states are theocracies, religious texts are law, the latter distinguished by Islam and Muslims in their application, as Sharia or Sharia law.

            So thorough is the integration of the justice system and Church under Sharia law that Sharia courts are essentially religious courts; judges are usually local church (Mosque) officials.
            The short definition is Muslim or Islamic law, both civil and criminal justice as well as regulating individual conduct both personal and moral.

            http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/S/​ShariaLaw.aspx

          • Mike in MI

            Jana – Excellent points.
            Besides that, if they are allowed full expression of their religion, as governed by shari’iah, it will present a law system which, for them and everybody affected by their presence, can not help but stand equal to and in contravention of our Constitution. Could that be why Obama instructed the DOJ to NOT try to bring any coloreds to our system of justice?
            I think that needs to be answered.

          • Jay

            Why are they so obsessed with building a mosque at ground zero? Knowing full well that it would be a slap in the face to all Americans. Where’s the sensitivity on their part? They can build a mosque anywhere else, but no, they insist that it be built at ground zero! Why would they even consider such nonsense, provocation, such madness? They will never be satisfied until they get everything, until then, JIHAD!!!!

          • 45caliber

            Jay:

            In the Islamic society, they ALWAYS build mosques at the sites of their greatest victories against the infadel. Why should anyone expect anything different here? I’m surprised they haven’t petitioned the government to allow them to have the Pentagon site as well.

            What I do believe is really wrong is the government not allowing a Christian church to rebuild what they already had at the site while allowing this.

          • 45caliber

            Jana:

            You are correct. Further, there are parts of the Sharia (I’ve seen so many different spellings I don’t know which is correct) law that cover the actions of an Islamic person with someone who isn’t. It penalizes the non-Muslim heavily. If we allow Sharia law in the US as a way of law, then it means that any Muslim will ALWAYS win in any court suit against a non-Muslim, regardless of the reason or the evidence. In many Muslim countries, a simple rumor is enough to get Christians stoned to death and their houses burned to the ground (after the place has been looted of all wealth, of course). In Egypt, which promises to rebuild Christian churches that are destroyed, the Christians want the churches in the same locations but the Muslims insist that they are now using that vacant lot as a prayer site so the Christians must move their church somewhere else (usually out of town about twenty miles).

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Jana: I have known these friends for years and trust them absolutely. I know that they do not try and trick me about Islam and they dont tell me lies. They have never insulted me or been insulted by my not being a muslim or my lack of knowledge of muslim customs or traditions when im with them. They are devoted muslims who are very serious about their religion and I am very sure they are not uninformed when it comes to the Quran as they have recited from it several times about their religion in response to my questions on it related to such issues as these. I cannot for the life of me remember what they said but it was enough to know that they were sincere and genuine in their faith and understanding of Islam. So with all due respect if Islamic law commands or expects muslims to lie to infidels or to promote absolute Sharia Law or to turn our country into a Islamic Theocracy I can say with all my heart that I know at least 4 muslims who would have no part of it but who are devoted muslims none the less.

          • Jana

            Jeremy,
            Then you are truly blessed.

          • Jana

            Jeremy,
            Another point, not all Muslims are bad people, nor evil people. There really are some nice decent Muslim people. The problem is the radical Muslims consider these nice Muslims sleepers. We were listening to a radio station out of Houston, Texas one night and it was a Muslim station. They were talking about this very thing. This was my first eye opener to their intent, but not my only one. I have also interacted with several radical Muslims on line.
            I have also met some very sweet Muslim women, but they were not free to be Americanized. I worked with a lady who had walked away from Islam. She told me many times that no matter how nice someone was, you could not trust these Islamic/Muslim people.
            The problem is when you meet someone you judge whether or not you would be friends with them on an individual basis. This is what we are supposed to do, and some people of any nationality you cannot trust and some people you can. So, we should go on an individual basis, and not group all of them together.
            The only thing I do know is we have to have our eyes open at all times. Your friends may be great, while they also may have some friends or family who are not.

          • http://hotmail.com espanolarefugee

            Get a grip! What we must do is read the Source documents; The book of mormon, the quran, the bible. Find out what the main topics and principles are about. You will find it eye opening. To many people have opinions about things, they have no knowlege of.

          • Jana

            espanolarefugee,

            Does that include you?

        • BUD

          IF MUSLIMS WANT CREDIBILITY, THEY NEED TO BEGIN WEEDING OUT THE EXTREMISTS AND TURN THEM OVER TO THE AMERICAN AUTHORITIES. UNTIL THEY BEGIN TO DO THAT, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE SUSPECT. IF THEY WANT TO LIVE IN AMERICA, AND MAKE AMERICA A GREAT COUNTRY LIKE THE ITALIANS AND GERMANS AND IRISH AND OTHER IMMIGRANTS DID, THEY NEED TO STEP UP AND HELP PROTECT THIS COUNTRY FROM THE EXTREMIST GROUPS. UNTIL THEY STEP UP, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE SUSPECT.

          • Mike in MI

            BUD -
            If they turn over the “heros for Mohammed” to OUR authorities they will become targets of the imams for stoning in our steets. That will certainly make for lots of “If it bleeds it leads” news print.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Bud: If the standard for acceptance in America is how much one has done to root out terrorists I would say a great many people of all races, creeds, ethnicities and political leanings have not met that standard. I dont spend my days rooting out extremists-is that ground for my being suspect. Countless people muslim and non muslim alike dont apprehend extremists and expose them- does that make them terrorists. There is a difference between indifference to evil and acceptance of evil as exsisting and doing all you can simply to live a good and honest life. If there are muslims who are not breaking the law or not engaging in terrorism but simply going about their every day lives why is that not enough for them to be considered as Americans or as good law abiding people.

        • 45caliber

          One reason they want Sharia law so badly here is that much of it is slanted to giving Muslims victory over non-Muslims. For instance, if you were to sue a Muslim for dumping trash on your side of the fence, you would lose since trash must go to contaminated areas and you, as a non-Muslim, are contaminated. If they desire to beat you to death for insulting them or the Koran, then they will not be punished for it. (If they were right and you did, you deserved it. If you didn’t do it, they were at least trying to support the Koran.) If a man wishes to divorce, he gets 100% of all property and his wife gets kicked out in the street. If she tries to divorce, it is legal grounds for him to kill her.

          We don’t need any of that here.

          • Jay

            They can have their laws and their koran, but not here! The fact that the mosque at ground Zero is even being considered, should give one pause. They have infiltrated our political system, as well our social system, and using the tool of political correctness against us. There is a possibility that our education will soon follow suit. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, one only need to look at what’s in the White House, to see how far their tentacles have reached.

    • BUD

      NEVER FORGET: MUSLIMS DIE FOR THEIR RELIGION, AND THEIR RELIGION ALWAYS COMES FIRST. IF THEY DON’T FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION, THEY ARE STONED TO DEATH. WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT, SO DON’T FORGET IT. AMERICANS ARE THE INFIDELS. AGAIN: NEVER FORGET.

    • 45caliber

      Jeremy:

      The problem is telling the difference between them. And considering the outcome if you make the wrong decision (your life) it is generally better to make an error on assuming all are bad rather than assuming that all are good.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        The problem 45 caliber is both extremes are just that- extremes and can produce equally bad results. We need to root out terrorists but using the strategy of expecting muslims to root out terrorists as some sort of duty as a result of their being muslim is not the way. I have not turned in or rooted out terrorists-does that make me a terrorist sympathizer. Mr. King who is pushing for these hearings has in the past actively supported the IRA a known terrorist organization. Who is he to demand people keep to the legal and ethical standard of actively seeking out and uncovering terrorists. Is it not enough for muslims who dont engage in terrorism to simply obey the law.

        • Jana

          We are not dealing with the IRA here, we are dealing with Islam, you know the ones who want us to conform to their religion, and their laws? Therefore, I don’t care who it is at this point that is drawing attention to this atrocity, I am just thankful someone is.
          Even in the Bible there are many examples of a Godless ruler being used of God, so if King is being used in this capacity for this particular time, then HOORAAYYYY!!!

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Dont all religions to some extent want all to conform or follow their law. And havent all religions in some form or another either through self appointed representatives or through actual church leaders tried to impose their religion through both reasonable and unreasonable ways.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jeremy,
            Show me where the Bible tells you to make somebody conform to christianity or kill them! show me where it has been practiced in the last 20 years!

          • Jana

            Jeremy,
            Islam is not just a religion. It is a law as well as a whole way of life.
            Islam says Infidels must conform or die. No other religion that I have heard of says that.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Jeremy,
          do you know of any terrorists?? If you do and don’t report them, then YES, you ARE a terrorist sympathiser!!! If your friends know of any and they don’t report them, then YES thay ARE terrorist sympathisers!!

    • Eddie47d

      Jeremy is correct and David is totally off base. You are innocent as individuals until proven guilty.There are few if any gray areas in thinking someone is evil without knowing it as a fact. We’ve heard it all before.”The only good Indian is a dead Indian”. Just insert any one’s ethnic or religious name in there and Bingo. David is a prime example of how that works.The hearings didn’t bother me as far as informing us of certain dangers but for folks to take it to the next level and smear all Muslims is unworthy of any American.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Home grown terrorism is a serious threat to the United States. To dismiss it as not, is sheer stupidity.

    • 45caliber

      How many acts of “home grown terrorism” have you heard about in the US that are not related to Islam?

      Only one that I know about.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        45… True… I didn’t mean to imply anything else.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        The assassinations of Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinley and John F. Kennedy. Numerous acts of The Ku Kluz Klan during reconstruction and during the Civil Rights Movement. The Unabomber and the Oklahoma City Bombing. The shootings at Columbine and Virginia Tech. The shooting of Representative Giffords. The group The Order and one calling itself The Covenant, The Sword and The Arm of the Lord in 1971.

        • 45caliber

          Jeremy:

          Assassination is not terrorism. It doesn’t matter how much the victim is liked. Terrorism is the use of violence to frighten (terrify) someone into obeying you or the organization you support. Assassination is the elimination of someone you don’t like.

          The KKK at one time was a terrorist group. It didn’t start that way and was changed later to become one. It became more later.

          Actually I’m not sure the Oklahoma bombing (even though attributed to being terrorist) was true terrorism even though I will call it that. There was no attempt to frighten anyone into doing anything. They simply blew up the building.

          The Unibomber wasn’t what I’d call true terrorism either. He simply liked to kill people. The school shootings certainly weren’t terrorism; they simply wanted to make a name for themselves and be “famous” while getting rid of people they didn’t like. Too much of our more recent history can be attributed to that due to the way the media covers them.

          Terrorism as done by the Muslims is done to frighten their own people into allowing them to rule and to punish those who speak out against them or act against them.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Well the problem there is im pretty sure all those incidents did frighten people and in the case of Lincoln I know Mr. Booth wanted to punish and frighten the people of the North and Inspire people of the South. I guess I believe any act that terrifies or involves killing of innocent people in mass or attacking someone of authority for the sack of politics or personal feelings could be considered terrorism.

        • Robertfromct

          Cho, Lochner and some of the others you cited were mentally unbalanced and as such are not relevant. It is atounding how intelligent people can see about them torture, stonings, beheadings, mass murders, suicide bombings, gangrapes, public whippings, pulicly stated jihads and numerous other atrocities all in the name of Islam and not recognize and/or be willing to acknowlege that this so called religion is a malicious cancer among civilized human beings. I’d like to see your reaction when you fly somewhere and 6 arabic-looking men with no women or children board your flight. thousands of Muslims here in the US cheered on 9/11. You are a fool.

          • Eddie47d

            Jeremy wasn’t applying anything wrong or sinister or defending Muslim terrorists.Yet the BBQ man below(WIA) certainly is.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Actually Robert I have. In all honesty I was more concerned with the fact that the plane I was in would soon be off the ground and how I hoped to god I wouldnt look out the window and become sick from fear of heights. I despise those kinds of atrocities and I am disgusted that people cheered on 9/11. However we must not forget muslims died in the twin towers as well and many families of muslims shed just as many tears as any other american on the tragic day. Terrorists murdered the victims of 9/11 not muslims.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            I appreciate the defense Eddie. Thank you. Just dont get caught in the fire thrown at me for what I let appear on this post.

          • Jana

            Jeremy,
            I am sorry you have gotten fire from us. You are giving us your experiences with you 4 friends. No one can deny you have had good experiences and want to share that with us and bring some positive things out about them and letting us know there are good people in all nationalities.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Robin I have no desire to dismiss it. I just dont want to exaggerate it by suggesting it involves all or many Muslims or to suggest or imply that its only a serious threat if it is committed by muslims.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        J.L. Time for you to invite all your Muslim/Islam buddies and have a Pork B.Q.

        • Jeremy Leochner

          WIA: One dosent require Muslim friends or “buddies” to believe muslims have equal rights to none muslims.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Jeremy… Sadly most of the terrorist attacks are by Muslims as we have seen throughout our history. It’s hard not to lump all Muslims into this profile.

        • Eddie47d

          You’re painting with wide strokes again. The IRA,The Inquisition,The Crusades,Indian massacres,The Haymarket Massacre, Look it up there are terrorist acts from police and governments and small groups of individuals. How about the Rosewood terrorist attack in Florida.Pure hatred and mis-information. That last one involved the Klan. Everyone should be on guard and initially watch the person who is sitting next to you on a plane. After that say hello and make a friend.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Eddie47d… I don’t think I was around for most of those things. Been a while since I’ve been in school to delve into history books. I guess I was just thinking about things that have happened more recently. The current events of our time….

  • tim

    Glad to see King has the balls to get this investigation rolling. Seems no one else in washington does, especially our justice dept and president. Thier too worried about the 2012 election.

    • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

      AMEN!

  • American Taxpayer

    Investigate radical muslims and then investigate our president’s possible connection with radical muslims.

    • 45caliber

      Leave out the word “possible”.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    These hearings are only “controversial” to those who mean harm to America.

    • barbm

      even those muslims who live here in peace have an agenda. they want to over-populate so they can take over our govt and, therefore, our country. look how they still dress in their mid-eastern garb. if you truly want to assimilate, you need to become one with our culture and laws. they want us to assimilate. look what’s happened in europe. they’re taking over – closing streets so they can pray, running natural citizens out of certain areas that they’ve claimed as their own. what a crock of crap.

      • Jana

        barbm,
        MOST of the ones who want to live here in peace are just considered pawns by the radical Muslims as they are easily intimidated. We are having a problem with the youth of these peaceful Muslims. These children are being courted by the radicals.Young people are the best to win over as they are easily brainwashed it seems. In prison, they are courted big time, and also are being won over.
        I think one of the problems is instead of assimilating into our society they along with other ethnicities are segregating themselves away from American society.
        We are supposed to be a melting pot, the problem is a large segment of our immigrants whether legal or illegal are not melting or melding into our society to become Americans.

        • Karolyn

          The young Muslims certainly can be more easily turned if they listen to what people like you conservatives have to say. if you feel hated in your own country, why would you not turn to those who envelope you with brotherhood and love and the promise of eternal salvation?

          • Jana

            Oh Karolyn,
            You can be so sweet when you want to. You also have GREAT talent for making things up!

  • Bob

    We can no longer afford to speak of “radical” muslims as if they were the exception rather than the rule. The fact is, all true muslims are radicals because islam teaches that non-muslims are to be either killed or subjugated. Ignorance of the true nature of this spiritual AIDs is ignorance that leads to death.

    • TIME

      Bob,

      Good post dude.

    • John the Libertarian

      Bob; you got the right idea… not all muslims are evil, but some are… i really don’t like the terminology of ‘radicalism’ as opposed to’ fundamentalist islam’… ‘radicalism’ sounds as if it is something it isn’t… it sounds as if its adherents are magically transformed into the wacky violent muslims, when in fact they are merely more closely following their true religious doctrines… the truth about fundamentalist islam is that the so called ‘radicals’ REALLY ARE NOT… they are just following the accepted doctrinal teachings over hundreds of years, as interpreted by their own religious authorities in their respective religious schools ( suni & shia )… we delude ourselves GREATLY if we think that those that do violent jihad in the name of islam are doing anything other than following muslim orthodoxy… as i said earlier, NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL… some are like Christians that choose not to follow their respective church”s teachings literally… back to islam- part of the problem the libs have in discerning the TRUTH about islam is that they are IGNORANT of 2 critical islamic doctrines that make all the difference: 1st is the doctrine of taqiyya… this doctrine permits lying to advance the cause of islam… the second critical doctrine is that of abrogation… what abrogation means is that within the koran, there are certain contradictory teachings… according to this doctrine, the chronologically later surahs take precedence (or correct or replace) chronologically earlier surahs… it is critical to understand that when muslims state that islam is a religion of peace by quoting the earlier ‘peaceful’ surahs, , they are practicing their doctrine of taqiyya (lying to protect islam), or they are ignorant of the VERY RIDGID centuries old doctrinaly validated contrary teaching of violent jihad… this is so because according to their own doctrine of abrogation, the chronologically earlier surahs of peace (when mohammed and his followers were weak in mecca) are abrogated (or replaced) by the later surahs demanding violent jihad, after the hajira (flight or journey) to medina when mohammed and his followers became strong enough to challenge anew the authorities in mecca… it was at this later time chronologically that the surahs became more violent with respect to jihad, and because they were chronologically later, they take precedence doctrinally over the peaceful earlier surahs when mohammed and his followers were weak (and needed to be peaceful to survive)… now you know why there is so much violence emanating from so many areas in the world with muslims on one side (or sometimes BOTH sides of the violence)… we need to understand this severe threat to our free society as evidenced by submitted documentation at the ‘holyland foundation trial’ in Texas recently… this documentary evidence (in the original arabic- translated) WAS NOT CONTESTED by the defendants…in the documents discussing what they call civilization jihad is a “grand jihad in ELIMINATING AND DESTROYING the western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers SO THAT IT IS ELIMINATED AND GOD’S RELIGION {islam} IS MADE VICTORIOUS OVER ALL OTHER RELIGIONS” [my emphasis added]… what this means, is they want sharia law not only for themselves, but the elimination of constitutional religious protections for the rest of us, and sharia law shoved down our throats whether we like it or not… to defeat this most serious and critically dangerous threat to our very way of life, it is imperative that we become aware of it and shine the light of truth on it to our fellow citizens before we deteriorate to the condition of Europe… remember— islam IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE- it is a religio/political system founded and based on jihadi conquest and SUBMISSION of the vanquished and their way of life, and the imposition on the rest of the world to a universal caliphate… I strongly encourage all who want the best documentary proof (in the muslims own documents) to google “Sharia the threat to America” published on line [and in print] by the “Center for Security Policy”… it’ll give you all the proof you need to disprove the taqiyya about islam as a religion of peace… sorry about the epistle length, but this is critical for freedom loving Americans to understand… see also the heroic Geert Wilders film “FITNA’ on you tube- or google it…

      • 45caliber

        John:

        If you read the Koran and Qoran, you will find that one of the biggest problems is that there are constant conflicts in the writings. For instance, in one place it says that men should honor their wives, protect them and treat them fairly. In another place it says that a man should beat them if they do or say anything he doesn’t like.

        For a imam to be able to put together a religion, he has to pick and choose which parts to include in worship. The fundamentalists tend to take those most restrictive to women and to infadels. And all of us who weren’t born Muslim are infadels.

        Further, there is only one guaranteed way to go to heaven in their religion. They must die fighting in a jihad as identified by an imam. Nothing else works primarily because if they obey one section of the Koran they are breaking another section of it.

        • Jana

          45,
          You are so right. It is the Qu’ran and the Hadiths and they are followed strictly. Mohammed the one who wrote the Qu’ran was a robber and a thief and was considered an outlaw in his country. Then all of a sudden “something” started visiting him giving him instructions. He thought it was an Angel( he claimed it was the Angel Gabriel). He would start speaking and people would write down what he was saying. They found thousands of scraps of paper with these writings.

          At first it did no harm, in fact in the writings they were still to adhere to the Bible, but after several years he decided that his god was calling him to be his avenger. (Little g as it was a false god) So now we have a delusional man going around killing those who disagreed with him and would not believe in the god he was telling them about.It went downhill from there as they were to adhere to what Mohammed was now teaching or die.
          Also, at the age of 54 he married a 6 year old child and waited 2 whole years to consummate the marriage. Wow how nice of him. So we also know him as a pedophile.

          • 45caliber

            Actually, I believe that he had a split personality. He would be one thing one day and something else the next. No one, including him, knew from one moment to the next what he was going to say or do. Today he’d have been put into a hospital and medicated.

        • Mike in MI

          45caliber -
          Hey! Wasn’t the imam-in-chief born to a father who was muslim? The muslims seem to think so. So…it seems inescapable that at some point – if not today – in the morass of clutter floating around in the quicksand within his cranial vault some sort of worry is going to arise that they will do to him what they do to everyone who claims to have turned to another belief system.
          Gee, look at his swift rejection under fire of Rev. Wright! Could it be that is the reason he could sit for 20 years in that pewee place and hear .000zilch. I’ve read that fear zeros out learning.

        • Jana

          45,
          A split personality and he grew more and more delusional.

      • usmadgirl

        John the Libertarian,

        Thank you for your comment explaining that Muslims are to follow the most current writings in their “contradictory book of rules”. Someone sent me a great video of what Muslims truly believe but I can’t find it.

        In my view, Islam is NOT a “religion”. It’s an ideology no different than Hitler’s. How many other “religions” teach that lying or murdering are OK? NONE. All the religions that I’m aware of teach truth, peace, kindness & love of their fellow man.

        If they practice their “religion” as it is written, there can be no “peaceful Muslims”. If they don’t follow their teachings, they too can be killed. We are ALL made in God’s image & knowing the difference between right & wrong is instilled in us; so there might be some that really don’t WANT to kill people, but they are indoctrinated to believe that’s what they’re supposed to do.

        I’m so tired of hearing (even on Fox) that not all Muslims are “extremists”! They’re ALL taught to kill us & destroy our way of life! They don’t want to come here & fit into our country, they want to commit genocide & TAKE OVER our country. I’m sorry, I know this is a country of “religious freedom”, but since Islam is NOT a religion, I would never have allowed the first Mosque to be built here! Now there are thousands of them. AND I certainly wouldn’t have elected a Muslim to be the leader of (what used to be) the free world!

    • Karolyn

      BS is all I have to say!

      • independant thinker

        BS…….Bar-B-Que Sauce, excellent on smoked pork roast.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        What does Barbara Streisan have to do with this ???

  • patrick

    Sorry all you idiots! there is NO controversy. We must get real and get serious here, we need to export all radical muslim terrorists out of our great USA. Oh, I forgot, include all Liberal Democrats in this exportation!!!

    • Jana

      patrick,
      We are NOT idiots and if you would bother to read our posts you will see most agree with you. However, you need to control your temper and speak like a MAN to us, not like you have done by speaking down to us in a demeaning manor!

  • patrick

    How can anyone be so stupid to say investigate Obammy boy for possible connection to muslims or radical muslimism? It is not possible it is a fact he will support them in every way he can and that includes bringing sharia Law to America. It is part the plan soros and other high up influential and people with money have been planning for years! Look, did anyone hear of or know anything about the brown guy from Chicago ? And out of nowhere… he now occupies the Whitehouse! Sometin wrong here folks!

  • wandamurline

    ALL Muslims are terrorists, otherwise they would be standing with America and denouncing the radicals…does anyone see them doing this? I think not. McCarthism should have gone further to remove communists from America and then we would not be having the problems we now have.

    • 45caliber

      I can’t agree with this statement. Actually I believe that most Muslims are against terrorism. The problem is that they have lived with the threat by those in power in their original countries so long that they fear being attacked if they come out against it. We, on the other hand, have no problem stating that terrorism is a crime since we haven’t been terrorized (despite what the news media keeps trying to tell us).

      • Bob

        Wrong – the koran calls for jihad or silent jihad; no true muslim is anything but a murderer or a potential murderer waiting for the right time. Islam is a disease, Christ is the cure.

        • Eddie47d

          I think Christ would even challange you on that comment.

          • Jay

            I disagree! Bob is right, Christ is the answer!

  • 45caliber

    If the person shown in the picture above committed a crime, what description could you give the police? Take a good look. Can you tell if the person is even male or female?

    I heard this morning that another state was looking and forbidding Shariha law. A court suit was filed insisting that this was unfair. Unfair to insist that the laws of our nation be followed instead of those of a religion half way around the world?

    • usmadgirl

      45caliber,

      My state of Tennessee is one of the states that is trying to pass a bill making it unlawful to practice Sharia Law.

      http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/6551-tn-bill-would-make-following-sharia-law-a-felony

      • 45caliber

        Good. I hope they succeed in getting it passed.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        usmadgirl… I doubt it will get passed. Not that I wouldn’t want it to, but I doubt it will. America is politically correct, and this is one of the sacrifices we have to make to keep them from shutting down Christianity.

        • 45caliber

          ACtually I think they would prefer to shut down Christianity. We are family oriented and freedom oriented. The Muslims are more government is right because government is god oriented.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        USmadgirl,
        I’m glad to see your post. Now if we could just get the rest of them behind it!!! If our laws are not good enough for them, then let them stay away!!! They know we don’t follow Sharia law so why do they come here if that does not suit them??

        • usmadgirl

          Joe H,

          They come here to terrorize us until they have enough of their people here (& well trained in their training camps here) to kill all of us & take over a country that isn’t all sand!

  • Dennis

    I agree with Bennett that these hearings needed to be held. I don’t agree with him on one point. He said: “Any Presidential candidate who did not acknowledge the presence of radical Muslims in America would be quickly discounted by the public. The candidate would be seen as unserious, out of touch, not up to the task or just plain wrong. The campaign would be over.”
    If that statement is true, how did we get Obama in the white house?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dennis,
      He is there because of the stupidity of the progs!!

      • usmadgirl

        Amen, Joe H.

  • http://none Henry Stumpf

    Its time to curtail ALL Muslim activities. NO MORE MOSQUES !!

    • Karolyn

      Well, gee, I think there are too many evangelical Christians. Ban any more giant churches!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Karolyn… Why would you want to ban churches and Christianity? Even if the government thought they could, they won’t be able to. Once you have accepted Jesus in your heart, you can’t be snatched from the Father’s hand!

      • usmadgirl

        Karolyn,

        You are hopelessly impossible. Christians don’t go around blowing themselves up to kill others, they don’t go around beheading people, or fly planes into buildings to kill as many people as possible in the name of Christ! Our government & taxpayers don’t pay for our churches to be built either. Why don’t you use your head for something besides a “hair holder”!

  • J. Edward

    Just because people deliberately target and kill civilians ruthlessly and indiscriminately in order to attain desired goals, is that any reason to call them terrorists?

    • 45caliber

      The libs apparently don’t think it is.

  • Richard

    I believe Islam is fundamentally anti-American and that teaching it constitutes hate-speech. I believe there is no difference between ‘radical’ Islam and orthodox Islam. I believe that we are already involved in WWIII and won’t win unless we aggressively attack the contents of the Quran and demand that it be substantially edited to remove the hatred and death it encourages in its readers.

  • barbm

    the u.s. is speninding millions of dollars to renovate, refurbish, and build mosques all over the world. some say it’s to preserve their culture, some say it’s buying goodwill. no matter the reason, they don’t build churches here,. in fact, USAID funds may not be used for the acquisition, construction, or rehabilitation of structures to the extent that those structures are used for inherently religious activities.” our govt should not be spending money on anything that does not directly benefit american tax payers when they’re cutting funding to education – america’s future.

  • ONTIME

    We have a large group of people giuded by a false instinct and a penchant for liking to stick their noses into the business of telling mankind that they and their beliefs are the answer and cure to all of mankinds ills..pure BS. they know it and so does mankind, one size does not fit all.

    Islam or submission is a cult, not a religion, it is a mistake to claim it is a religion but in truth it is a willful thrust to colonize the earth with clones who will willingly die, do or say what some political soothsayer claims is the way. Ask yourself has this clown gone there and done that already and and can he prove it? I will put my faith into our founding fathers paragmatic thinking and ask that my belief in God to allow me to live decently and inform others that free will is a part of daily living, you are responsible for what God has allowed you to have and you best treat this gift well.

    The committee hearings now in progress would never have been ordered had the damn fools who want to dominate the world kept their frigging mouths shut and just quietly dominated by action and deed to make their thinking acceptable but the loudmouths just can’t shut the hell up and making trouble is their forte, so now the government is asking publicly who, why and how. The loudmouths troublemakers are now being asked to stand up and see if they are viable, those who know them are being asked to expose their nasty little secrets and put a stop to the garbage and baggage they spread and want others to carry. So far the folks here in the U.S. are not buying into their schemes of domination, they have little or nothing that benefits what God given freedom can produce. There is always some idiot thinking that always claims, “One size fits all and we got it.” Hasn’t worked yet and history says the chances are really slim that it ever would.

    I suggest that ranting islamic fundamentalist wear looser shorts.

  • chuckb

    There is no doubt that the wide spread tradition of first cousin
    marriages among Muslims has harmed the gene pool among Muslims.
    Because Muslims’ religious beliefs prohibit marrying non-Muslims and
    thus prevents them from adding fresh genetic material to their
    population, the genetic damage done to their gene pool since their
    prophet allowed first cousin marriages 1,400 years ago are most likely
    massive. (This has produced) overwhelming direct and indirect human
    and societal consequences.
    Bottom line: Islam is not simply a benign and morally equivalent
    alternative to the Judeo-Christian tradition. As Sennels points out,
    the first and biggest victims of Islam are Muslims. Simple Christian
    compassion for Muslims and a common-sense desire to protect Western
    civilization from the ravages of Islam dictate a vigorous opposition
    to the spread of this dark and dangerous religion. These stark
    realities must be taken into account when we establish public polices
    dealing with immigration from Muslim countries and the building of
    mosques in the U.S.
    Let’s hope America wakes up before a blind naiveté about the reality
    of Islam destroys what remains of our Christian culture and our
    omestic tranquility.

    A huge Muslim problem: Inbreeding
    By Bryan Fischer

  • 45caliber

    “Bledsoe expressed confusion about the Democrats’ staunch resistance to discussing radical Islam on U.S. turf, saying that many of them do not understand the severity of the problem.”

    I’m not sure it is their inability to understand the problem so much as it is their desire to keep those Muslim campaign contributions coming in.

  • http://com i41

    Islam is not a religion, but and ideology, invented by some pedophile mental freak. The reason Moohid lrft Mecca was he could find enough followers, the first part of the Queeran was moohid’s first 12 years. Whne he moved to Medina, which was a strange place like San Fran, he got a lot of freaks following him. Violence was alot easier to get converts than talking. They went into some goat herding town and told them to convert or die, easier to convert. This was told by a speaker who was a muslim for several decades until Sadddam killed his fmily by gassing them. trust him more than the feel good muslim loving dumbocraps and the marxist muslim moron in the WH and his radical domestic terrorists.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      i41… Interesting post. Do you have site for that? Please understand I am not putting your post down, or disagreeing with you. I am just curious if there is somewhere to go to read about it.

      • Eddie47d

        More swill from i41 and your don’t disagree with him? That gives me great understanding of you Robin.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Eddie47d… Your posts never leave anyone wondering. We know where you stand. I thought my posts would be as revealing of me! But alas, your vision must have been blurred somewhere along the thread….

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Robin,
            Research Mohammed, life of!

      • Jana

        Robin,
        Sadly what he says is true. See my posts above at 12:12PM.
        Mohammed is the author of the Qu’ran and he was a weird and cruel man.

  • http://none rebel69

    Kudos to Rep. King and his hearing. Surely, it’s amazing how, indeed, there can even be a dialogue with a culture that not only advocates–but actually celebrates–young children wrapping bomb packs around their waists; then committing suicide, causing in the aggregate tens of thousands of deaths of innocent men,women and children.

    Furthermore, check the numbers. If only 19 islamic fundamentalist/ murderers killed over 3,000 innocent people when they brought down the twin-towers, imagine the devastation & degradation 5% of the 1.5 billion muslims — OR 75 MILLION terrorist/murderer jihadists–could cause. Finally, and surely ironically, as you read this, our tax dollars–yours and mine–courtesy of messrs. obama, holder, clinton, napolitano, gates, brennan, and clapper–are overtly supporting this insidious islamic terrorist agenda, both at home and abroad.

  • Jay

    In Outlines of Muhammadan Law, Fyzee provides a judicial definition of a Muslim:

    “[T]here are at least three divergent views on the subject: (i) he who believes in Muhammad as a Prophet belongs to the Muslim community; or (ii) every person who says there is no God but God and Mohammed is the Prophet of God is a Muslim; or (iii) … other theologians hold that in addition to the belief in God and the profit, a number of other beliefs are also necessary.

    “But the doctrine of the courts is simple: the Muhommedan law applies to all Musulmans (i.e. Muslims) whether they are so by birth or by conversion…. any person who professes the religion of Islam, in other words, accepts the unity of God and the prophetic character of Mohammad is a Moslem (sic) and is subject to Musulman law.”

    “The sacred law of Islam is an all-embracing body of religious duties, the totality of Allah’s commands that regulate the life of every Muslim in all its aspects.”

    Islamic law is probably best known for deterrent punishment which is the basis of the Islamic criminal system, and the discrimination against women.

    Another important feature of Muslim law is the fact that there is no clear separation of church and state.

    Under Islamic law, the religion of Islam and the government are one. Islamic law is controlled, ruled and regulated by the Islamic religion; a theocracy.

    Islamic law purports to regulate all public and private behaviour including personal hygiene, diet, sexual conduct, and child rearing. (DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?)

    Islamic law now prevails in countries all over the Middle East and elsewhere covering 20 per cent of the world’s population.

    In theocratic Muslim or Islamic states where the Koran is law, adherents are taught that they can enter Paradise (life after death), through jihad, described in the Koran as:

    “Oh ye who believe! Shall I guide you to a gainful trade which will save you from painful punishment? Believe in Allah and carry on warfare (jihad) in the path of Allah with your possessions and your persons.”
    In his  book Al Risala (Islamic Jurisprudence), written in about 815, Shafi’i, the reknowned Islamic law jurist stated:

    “God has imposed the duty of jihad. He said: ‘Fight the polytheists totally as they fight you totally. Slay (them) wherever you find them and take them and confine them and lie in ambush for them everywhere.’

    “These communications mean that the jihad, and rising up in arms in particular, is obligatory for all able-bodied believers, exempting no one.”
    In Khadduri’s book on Islamic law he writes:
    “The Jihad may be regarded as a form of religious propaganda that can be carried on by persuasion or by sword.”

    Jihad is sometimes used by politicians of the Muslim faith to justify the use of violence or armed conflict,
    Many Islamic jurists insist that while the term jihad, taken in its original historical context does means warfare, but in the context and development of jihad now, it symbolizes not just violent means of persuasion but also other means of persuasion such as oratory, written or political persuasion.

  • jopa

    45 cal;You asked in a post above how many acts of terrorism one can list.The term has become meaningless in todays world it has been so over used to describe any minor or major incident today.There was a kid a few miles away from here and about two years ago was picked up by the police for terrorist activities.He was blowing off firecrackers.

  • jopa

    When King gets done with those Muslims, then the crazy Baptists, and the pedophile Catholics he will probably only have you to come after.OMG run hide and tune in again tomorrow for The Edge of Night.See you tomorrow same time same station scariest place in the whole nation.Check under your bed!!

  • Haroldene

    Islam-a religion of peace? Far from it. Go study that religion. Muslims will only tolerate us as long as they are in the minority. When they become the majority, look out. Islam means submission. When they become the majority, either submit and become a Muslim or either have your head cut off under sharia law.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    Remember the Three S’s. Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-Up.

  • http://com i41

    This was not a internetsite. This was a a co;;ege setting with a former muslim who convert to Chriastianity, on what is Islam.AllvI can remember he was from Nevada or New Mexico. His meeting told how the start of Isdlam was a wooden hut with 360 clay figurines for allproblems imagined, the goat herders could pray to. Muhameed destoyed all the others but kept the moon god Allah, a clay figurine. To be a muslim, you must absolution your self to the first part of the Queeran, the poetry and nice soundinf flowery part, which was written by Mohmeed while in Mecca for about 12 years. When he went to Medina is where he got enough followers to use force to convert complete towns using violence. Then go the next group of tents or mud huts and repeat operations. Always leaving some medicine man, shaman or inman to control the people. Sicker and freaker the better. That is why eddee has such a problem with talking about muslims or any stone agemental midgets. Most indian tribes had a pretty poor opinion of women and very few weren’t pretty barbaric and cruel. Eddeee claims he is part of that generational wards of the government.

  • http://Persoanllibertydigest Jim

    While it would be nice to believe that Muslims don’t believe in violence to accomplish a means to the end — But I’m sorry I don’t live in a dream world — Their own law system (Sharia law ), points out a system that is harsh and unforgiving , and kinda crazy– So with that in mind — I certainly don’t trust them and I think exactly like Mr Williams from fox –

  • jopa

    Jim;Do you still have your blinders on?Have American Christians ever started a war to accomplish a means to an end? Yes.Our own system is crazy at times but it is the best there is and when people start talking sharia law and birther crap they start to look a little loony to the vast majority.However we must respect there right to lunacy.

    • Jay

      jopa, please read what you write before you post! This may actually be your problem.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    Nothing wrong with Islam that an appropriate dose of napalm won’t cure.

  • ecks why

    islam is dangerous no matter how it is packaged. muslims do not assimilate into western society because islam is a theocracy and demands supremacy.

    the twin fogs of political correctness & ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology & history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology.

    see the links in the pdf version below for more accurate info about islam
    ==========

    islam is a horrible ideology for human rights

    5 key things about islam

    1. mythical beliefs – all religions have these (faith) because its part of being a religion: having beliefs without proof until after the believer dies. the problem is people will believe almost anything.

    2. totalitarianism – islam has no seperation of church and state: sharia law governs all. there is no free will in islam: only submission to the will of allah as conveniently determined by the imams who spew vapors to feather their own nests. there are no moderate muslims: they all support sharia law.

    3. violence – islam leads the pack of all religions in violent tenets for their ideology & history: having eternal canonical imperatives for supremacy at all costs and calling for violence & intimidation as basic tools to achieve these goals.

    4. dishonesty – only islam has dishonesty as a fundamental tenet: this stems from allah speaking to mohamhead & abrogation in the koran which is used to explain how mo’s peaceful early life was superseded by his warlord role later.

    5. misogyny – present day islam is still rooted in 8th century social ethics: treating females as property of men good only for children, severely limiting their activities, dressing them in shower curtains and worse.

    conclusions ??

    there really are NO redeeming qualities for this muddled pile of propaganda.

    islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.

    graphics version
    http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/5792/dangero.jpg

    1 page pdf version – do file/download 6kb viewer doesn’t show fonts well, has better fonts header footer links, great for emailing printing etc
    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B_UyNP-72AVKYWNiNTFlYTEtMTA1ZC00YjhiLTljMDUtMDhhNDE0NDMzNmYz

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