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Controversy Surrounding Full-body Scans At Airports Continues

January 11, 2010 by  

Controversy surrounding full-body scans at airports continues In the days since the attempted terrorist attack aboard a U.S. bound airliner, Americans have been engaged in a full-blown debate regarding privacy, security and the limits of government’s right to search individuals who have not been suspected or charged with criminal activity.

The debates center around the full-body scanning technology numerous foreign and domestic agencies have said will be installed at airports around the world. Privacy rights groups have been critical of anatomically revealing scanners used on all travelers as a primary screening method.

"Obviously, we have a concern, because it’s a virtual strip search that is terribly invasive," said Michael German, policy counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, quoted by CNN.

The news sources also reports that the Electronic Privacy Information Center has filed a lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security seeking details under the Freedom of Information Act about the department’s use of the advanced imaging technology.

In response, the Transport Security Administration (TSA) has said passengers’ faces are blurred on full-body scans, employees who deal directly with passengers do not see the scans and those who review the scans do not see the passengers.

That said, public acceptance of body scanners may be on the rise. "Nearly 90 percent of passengers choose the body scan over getting patted down by security guards," according to an expert quoted by The Plain Dealer.

Still, some critics say that while the new technology is effective in detecting threats from unsophisticated, mentally troubled individuals, more refined plots may still be beyond its capabilities.
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  • Disgusted

    I would rather have gone through the full body scan then get blown up in the air because someone hid a bomb in their underwear! I think they should be installed in every airport now!

    • realbigal

      It is very sad that so many Americans have turned into sheeple.

      • Norm

        realbigal
        Beter a live “sheeple” than a dead idiot who was afraid someone might have seen the outline of their genitals. OOOH!

        • J C

          Thanks I’ll pass on being “irradiated”. The metal sacnner and pat down are sufficient.

        • realbigal

          Imagine what this world would be like if Thomas Jefferson, George Wshington, etc thought that way.

          • Norm

            realbigal
            Unfortunatly the founding fathers, as astute as they were, could never had imagined the world that we now live in. They had no plumbing, no transportation system other than horses, no communications or data processing, no medical knowledge, crude military hardware etc..

          • JC

            Al, Norm’s right that the founding father’s couldn’t have imagined the world as it is. After all they advocated non-intervenionism.

          • Joe H.

            Real,
            ah yes the old reliable horse- bomb!!!!!

          • denniso

            If people are worried about airport security or being blown up in a plane,then don’t fly!! No one is forced to fly,other than biz people working for a boss. Drive,take the train or don’t go..how many air trips are really necessary anyway? We could stop global warming overnight if we quit flying.

          • Claire

            Exactly!
            Don’t fly. Besides, it is bad enough on the ground.

    • Allan Rein

      Whole body scans are very interesting, but to my knowledge, no one has published any articles on how much radiation will each body receive from such scans, and what is the cumulative effect of this radiation on frequent travellers. How about the radiation dosage that the people working near these machines will receive each & every day of exposure. Who will pay for the treatment of their radiation induced cancers?

      • Fred in Laurel, Md

        Don’t forget that just riding on a commercial flight adds to your radiation dose by taking you above most of the atmosphere, which at sea level protects you from a good deal of cosmic and solar charged-particle radiation. Airline flight crew members get this exposure all the time on their jobs. I suspect that with modern x-ray imaging technology, the dose from these scans will turn out to be miniscule compared with what you’re getting just flying across country.

        I’m much more concerned with the kind of failure to pick up on obvious red flags that is illustrated by the “Fruit-of-KaBoom” bomber. Do we, as a last line of defense against such failures, need to fill planes with Dutch film producers?

        • Joe H.

          Fred,
          We need to play up the idea that the Muslims tried to punish the non-believers and instead God punished the crotch bomber!!! I don’t even want to guess thepain levels he’s going through right now!!!! ooooh!!!

          • Claire

            I hope the crotch bomber is never the same again, I hope he has ruined his you-know-what!!! Hopefully he is a eunich now.

      • Richard Pawley

        Don’t worry, the government will tell us it’s perfectly safe and that the danger is minimal. In my book on what’s really going to happen in the coming financial crisis I mention the several hundred people in Mexico who have implanted RFID microchips that can open security doors and such but no studies have been done on the effects on human of having such implants. (In dogs they often cause cancer or speed it up – not all of course). I’m sure it will be many years before any studies are done on humans for such powerful devices as these scanners. Even CAT scanners have been known to increase cancer risk! Incidentally, simply flying through a powerful lightning storm can be the equivalent of 400 chest X-rays due to a newly discovered phenomena known as terrestrial gamma rays caused by the storms themselves (apparently). To bad El Al Airlines (of Israel) doesn’t fly all over the US. Then we would be really safe. Instead Obama is trying to unionize all TSA people and then forget it. I’ll drive or stay home. We need experts at the helm, not amateurs or political appointees no matter how nice or smart they are.

      • MadMax

        Be careful when you assume these scanners will protect you. Have an article for you – Full body scanners used on Air Passengers may damage human DNA – at fourwinds10.com. “These machines emit terehertz photons-high frequency energy particles….”.

    • independant thinker

      I would rather be blown up than go thru a full body scan on the scanners. Probably won’t be an issue for me though for I have no intention of flying anywhere unless absolutely necessary anyway.

    • DaveH

      That may be Disgusted, but it is doubtful that the scan would have revealed the bomb material in the terrorist’s underwear.
      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/29/2009-12-29_untitled__2qaeda29m.html

      • Tinwarble

        There are also better & less evasive technology’s to detect explosive material. “Explosive sniffers” can detect an explosives & materials that can be used as explosives, where the body scanners can only see what is visible and wouldn’t shown anything that was inserted anywhere on someone’s body. They also have a lower “false negative” and “false positive” rate than most other technology.

  • eddie47d

    Although I’m strong on civil liberties I believe we have to do more to protect the flying public . This should be done at mass transit sites also. According to the article above peoples privacy is protected. Our nation runs on commerce and our govt. needs to make it safe to do so. My wife and I have traveled abroad and now she insists that she’ll never get on another airplane . I think that is foolish talk and just what the terrorists want. So I have some work to do in changing her mind. God Bless America.

    • kodiak60

      I’m with her! I said the samething to my husband. And he agrees. If we’re traveling domestically, I’d just as soon drive, now. And if I do have to fly for international travel, I’ll do the pat-downs, gladly. I don’t want to be exposed to any more x-rays than I have to. Another thing… if the Dutch had done their job in Amsterdam, we wouldn’t have had this whole scenario! But nothing has been said about them falling down on the job!

      • American Citizen

        Kodiak, that’s what I’ve been saying, the whole thing started in a foreign airport. Why is our CIA on the carpet for this?

        • TIME

          Mega DITTO.

          By the way if someone really wants to take an air plane down, there are at least ten things I can think of off the top of my head that almost every person takes on a plane daily, the the rest are on the plane already.
          So when they ban {{all carry on’s}} Combined with everyone who flys should just be nude.

          When you give your {FREEDOMS} away you never get them back.
          As well; anyone can fit the “PROFILE of the moment.”

        • Fred in Laurel, Md

          The intelligence community needs to be called on the carpet for not picking up on way too many clues before this guy got on that plane. But as far as the whole thing starting in a foreign airport — as I understand it, nowadays we have US border/immigration agents at foreign airports checking everyone traveling from foreign territory to the US. So that particular failure does not fall on the Dutch.

    • independant thinker

      eddie………Just curious, how much personal freedom and privacy are you willing to give up for a very small increase in security?

  • Robert

    I don’t have a problem with a full body scan. But then, I’m just a law abiding, god fearing, patriotic American and what I think doesn’t matter to all the politicans and liberals. Guess I should just pack my bags and go to a country that believes in real human rights like: Sudan, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan. Now they know how to respect people who have different opinions from them. And maybe I should convert to Islam. You know that peaceful, law abiding, human rights loving, neighbor loving, quiet, docile, wouldn’t think of killing innocent people religion that us Christians don’t understand or respect. Yeah, that’s what I’m going to have to do if I want to save myself. Anyone care to join me? Just remember, if you join Islam you get a free Bomb Exploding Vest and all the training you want. Man that’s a better deal than the ginsu knife.

    • Carl

      Robert, I understand your sarcasm but there are some issues that as a counter-terrorism consultant to local, state and federal government I feel need to be addressed.
      1. We’re doing airport security wrong. The Israeli model is best. People go through better security, before they enter the terminal concourse, by individuals who are much better trained and have IQs above room temp.
      2. As a nucelar engineer I have an issue with irrradiating people willy-nilly. For instance, pregnant woman, people that have just undergone a nuclear med procedure, young children and even men and women of childbearing years should be concerned. These machines, while low-power, still bombard the body with ionizing radiation and while I’m not fearful of radiation I do not expose myself to more radiation than is needed.
      3. We focus the majority of our “airport security” on the passenger side; however, the maintenance and services side is still the greatest place of vulnerabilty. Too easy to bring a device aboard during cabin service or even during normal maintenance in a hangar (happens every 100 hours of flight time!).

      We have every reason to believe that our rights are being trampled but the steamroller built to crush the Constitution is built into the new Health Care legislation – far more serious than anything in the Patriot Act. Stay on point, Robert!

      • Fred in Laurel, Md

        Carl, good points. I hope your advice is getting really heard by whichever governments are consulting you. On your points:
        Pt#1 — The Israelis undoubtedly do a superb job of this; they have to, their existence as a nation depends on it. I wish more of our folks would realize that we just might be in that boat, too. But I’m not at all sure that the Israeli model, with one airline (El Al), and a relatively small no. of flights and airports, could work in the US without slamming air travel here down to a trickle. Your key point, I think, is the constant vigilance by alert observers–this is essential! Just the awareness of odd behavior, along with the ability to follow up on concern about it, could do wonders.
        Pt#2. I too once worked in radiation physics, and I’m sure you know that merely traveling on a commercial flight adds to your radiation dose, probably more than a full-body scan will do; that we all get a certain amount of natural background radiation; and that this bkgd varies greatly from place to place (Denver has a much higher bkgd than New York; parts of India have 10x the ave. bkgd of the US, with no greater cancer incidence). Still, your point about unnecessary exposure is valid–there needs to be strong justification, and I believe there is in this case. But here enters Pt#1, that we could do a much better job of choosing who to subject to further scrutiny.
        Pt#3. I hadn’t heard this before, and having heard it now, I’m wondering why I haven’t? I hope it’s because it’s already being checked into quietly, or at least that it will now be.
        And ditto on the so-called Health Care legislation. Our current war footing, as it has always done in the past, must lead to certain more intrusive government actions, but these must be tolerated only until we can come out of that wartime status, at which time they must be retracted, or strongly and forcibly rejected politically by the people. What is going on up on Capitol Hill in the name of health care insurance reform is much more sinister, because it would continue forever, regardless of anything as temporary as war.

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        Carl, you are absolutely on the mark. My son who at one time was Security Office for various airlines explained to me exactly what you just wrote. What I don’t understand is why it hasn’t happened yet as it doesn’t cost that much. Like the man said in one of these blogs, Obummer et al are just puppets and until we find out who is behind this, we really are defense less unless of course if they keep pushing our buttons because now we are irratted but watch out when we really get Mad and get organized – and before that happens, ever muslim better leave – we can confiscate all the properties owned by them also to pay the poor people who have lost loved ones because of them – Kinda like Saudia Arabia did on nationalizing the oil fields after the American companies had done all the work and spent all the money. HMMMMMMM

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        Sir. Having done airfreight and courier work some 25 years ago, I’ll bet I can still get into (and back out of) so-called “secure” areas at SFO, and most of the other major airports throughout the land without them even suspecting anything was amiss. There are just too many “couriers” in and around airports, especially near flight times, as consolidators are always trying to ship as much as possible at one time for cost control and customer convenience.

    • Joe H.

      Robert,
      Please, Take them up on the offer!!! As near as I can figure, with your attitude about religion you should last all of 5 seconds!!!

  • Swansong

    Good grief! PROFILE! You HAVE TO profile. PERIOD!

    “Well, *I* would rather go thru a full-body scan…” Sheez!

    Stop the PC BS you Americans have become so comfortable with. It is going to end up with either one of you, your family or your fellow citizens getting murdered.

    IDENTIFY the enemy and TARGET THEM for these scanners. Hell, it doesn’t even have to BE a scanner. Put a bomb-sniffing dog on them!

    Oh. That’s right… Muslims don’t like dogs, do they…

    Ah well, screw it. THAT’S too sensitive! Go back to checking granny + 98% of the law-abiding citizen flying public and let the culprit break just about every red-flag rule in the book to go through to bomb the plane.

    Moronic. You will never be safe. There’s no such thing.

    Profile & target, or kid yourself about your “safety”.

    Simple choice.

    • kodiak60

      I agree… profile them! Enough of the molly-coddling, PC garbage. BTW… someone else came up with the perfect solution… bomb-sniffing dogs, and make everyone touch bacon before they pass security check. Those that refuse, go through the body-scanners. That way, everyone else that complies? Pass on through, thank you very much, enjoy your flight.

      • American Citizen

        Yes, we should profile, but weren’t the shoe bomber and underwear bombers Americans? How would you indentify them?

        • scragsma

          No, the ‘shoe bomber’ was a British citizen, and the ‘undie bomber’ was Nigerian.

          • Fred in Laurel, Md

            Right, which is why you profile not merely (nor even mostly) by appearance, but by behavior. In another comment here by “Carl,” he points to the Israelis, and their much better record. So study what they do and adopt what can be adopted for US air travel. I believe an important part of that is the recognition of suspicious behavior, along with the ability to probe further into whoever is thought to be exhibiting it.

          • Joe H.

            Lets face it, not all Muslims are bombers, but 98% of the terrorist bombers ARE Muslims!!!!!!

    • Aaron

      I also agree. I can’t stand this “political correctness” CRAP that Clinton came up with. It’s become such a standard with government that our safety, among other things, is being sacrificed. Plus, profiling works, and if it doesn’t work in one certain instance then move on to the next person of interest. No harm done. Some people are so offended when they are searched, yet they have nothing on them that is banned from airplanes. When you get mouthy about airport security searches, all your saying is that you have something to hide. I think that everyone should be patted down or given a full body scan or whatever is the most effective method for eradicating all threats from boarding airplanes, because I’d much rather be safe than worry about someone’s feelings and end up dead.

      • independant thinker

        Just how much personal freedom and privacy are you willing to give up for a very small increase in security.

        • DaveH

          We have gone from a nation of rugged pioneers to a nation of cowering people in just a little over 230 years.

          • realbigal

            As usual, Dave H is right again. We need more Americans like him.

          • Norm

            DaveH
            Get real. What you say makes sense in the world of of the 1700′s. In case you missed it, we’ve had a few minor changes since Jefferson and Franklin died.

          • denniso

            ‘more Americans like DaveH’??? Please,no!! We would be inundated 24 hrs a day w/ the selling of the libertarian party to us. Take it back!!

        • Tinwarble

          i.t.,

          First, I just want to say that I am no fan of the “Body Scanners”, I think that there are better technologies out there that could do a better job in a less evasive way.
          With that said, I believe your argument about giving up freedom is an erroneous one. For someone to violate your freedom, you would first have no choice other than the one offered. The security measures in a Airport do not violate any of your freedoms, because you have the choice not to fly and therefore not participate in going through those security measures. And before someone says “But some people have to fly!!”, no, some people choose to fly, they also have the choice to drive, take a bus or go by train and even if they must, to take a boat. Flying is not a right, it is a convenience, the true violation of your freedom will be when they tell you that you have to fly & you have no other choice in the matter.
          Also, for those that would say that they are being Unconstitutional by violating the 4th Amendment. I would remind you, that an unlawful search & seizure is when it is done without a warrant or your permission. When you buy your ticket to fly you are aware of the security measures that you will have go through to get on the plane. And because you are aware of those measures, & that certain items aren’t allowed, you have entered into a de-fact-o agreement that you will allow them to search you and seize anything not allowed. It is no different than if the police knocked on your door & asked to search your house and you agree to let them. That is not a 4th Amendment violation because you gave them your permission. And you can choose not to let them search you, you want be able to fly, but you are not made to go through the security. Now, if you are sitting in the Duty Free Shop and they come up and start frisking you without any cause, then that is against the 4th Amendment.
          Now, if you want to make the argument that they are doing too many things to make people feel uncomfortable without making the security a whole lot better, then I can agree with you. But until they tell you that once you walk into an Airport that you can’t walk back out, know that you are still free.

        • Tinwarble

          Oh, and Dave, unless you can point to a time during the “Pioneering Days” when people had to worry about “Dirty Bombs”, chemical attacks or perhaps and Indian riding into town on his horse with TNT strapped to him and killing 3000 people, I wouldn’t use that to call people cowards.

          Also, if it sounds as though I am siding with “Big Government”, I’m not. But I am fairly sensitive about people getting blown up, mostly because someone tried to blow me up. And even though I would like to know how you were to feel about security after you experienced what I have, I wouldn’t wish it for anyone & hope that no one ever does.

          • denniso

            Terrorism here is real,though a very minor risk for us here. Other parts of the world have been much more affected for decades. You are more likely to die in an auto wreck,random shooting,heart attack or victim of domestic violence…we are letting irrational fear push us into near panic and wrongly affect our daily lives. NO security is ever going to be perfect,and we should be congratulating the citizens on the plane who stopped the undie bomber…that part of ‘the system’ worked.

        • fu

          i agree

    • MadMax

      Right on! Americans are so brainwashed by the government and elete’s media, they probably will let them go farther and farther to infringe on their personal freedoms. We now have a country of cowards.

      • Curtis

        Does knowing how to spell “elite” make you one of the elites?

        • MadMax

          Excuse me for the misspelling, I guess the cat’s out of the bag, I am lacking at spelling. At least I’m not brainwashed.

  • Rich B

    The problem won’t be solved until we know who is getting on the plane. We need to institute profiling immediately. No scanning would be necessary.

    • Norm

      Rich B
      We need both and whatever else it takes. Exploding aircraft are not a joke.

  • David A. Celaschi

    First of all, this man didn’t need a full body scan. What they also failed to mention was that he was only wearing a tee shirt and pants going to Detriot Michigan USA,which at that time was at 0 degrees temp. or lower.What needs to be done is give every one in Washington, especially Janet a full head oriented Cat Scan.Obviously they are all missing something in that area,I believe it’s called a needed Brain!

  • cayla

    We have to profile! Many other nations have been successfully combating this kind of terrorism for decades. They are successful because they profile.

    I don’t see what good a body scan would have done for the Christmas flight. Our government had everything short of the terrorist wearing a tee shirt stating “I am a terrorist with a bomb that I am planning on detonating during this flight”. My God, what more did they need? I think they purposely let him through to scare people into surrendering yet another piece of their freedom and I am surprised at the number of people here who are foolish enough not to see through this. I don’t know what I fear more; Terrorists, Our corrupt government, or idiots who enable both to be successful.

    • J C

      I have to agree.

      • Swansong

        Ditto!

        • john r. mclemore

          Mega Dittos!!!

    • Raggs

      Your on point!!!! Most people don’t realize this is just another power grab of our rigth’s

    • kodiak60

      The progressives/statists/liberals/socialists will use any crisis to create opportunities to impose more control, and they will even create crisises, in order to gain it! That’s exactly what they have done, and the numbed population falls for it. Wake up, people! You’re giving them more control, every day, and allowing them to do it!

  • Patriot

    I’d rather Americans would learn how our country is terrorizing the world so that we didn’t anger foreigners so much a very few of them want to commit suicide runs. Body scans are a joke, if anyone thinks that makes flying safer. Being ex-military, it would be EASY for me to shoot down any commercial jet with a recoiless rifle at half a mile from take off.

    • john r. mclemore

      ex military??? but in whose army??? AW WE DON’T WANT TO OFFEND THE REST OF THE WORLD. JEEZ.

      • J C

        John with all respect. We should all be taking a serious look at what our foreign policy is really doing out there, as opposed to what they “say” they are doing. It really is two different things.

      • Arkham Grundy

        As a combat vet m myself I saw first hand the results of ignorance on the part of foreign policy makers. They rarely have a clue about other cultures and how to deal with them. Accurate, real information is frequently ignored in favor of political expediency and many needlessly die on both sides.

        Use Viet Nam as an example. We “bought” that war from the French who wanted their old colony back at our expense because we ignored the realities of Vietnamese culture and the aspirations of their people.

        Now we can go there as tourists and buy things made there… we could have done this first and saved the lives of many of my friends whose names are inscribed on The Wall in Washington.

        It’s not an issue of Republican of Democrat, liberal or conservative. Many people want to jump into war thinking they are being patriotic while all they are doing is appeasing the egos of stubborn politians in safe places.

        Bush’s cowboy policies are a prime example of cultural arrogance at work. Let’s hope as a species we can move beyond and recognized that we all have to share our very unique planet.

        Over reacting to terrorists lets them win. One jerk can force our entire society into fearful inconvenience. Just stop issuing viasa to people from terrorist countries.

        • DaveH

          Excellent Statement Arkham.

        • scragsma

          Hogwash.

          • Arkham Grundy

            Perhaps you shou;ld consult your doctor about the new surgical procedure, the plexiotomy.

            This entails the surgical implantation in the abdomen of a plexiglass window so people whose heads are crammed in a dark cavity can see.

          • Joe H.

            Arkham,
            After being there for eighteen months I think I can say with ALL CERTAINTY that I don’t care to return to RVN unless it is to look for remains of our soldiers! Bring them ALL home or send us back!!!

        • J C

          Well put, and with some experience behind it too. And yes, if the goal of the terrorists is to destroy America, the terrorists are winning. They must just stand back and laugh everytime they see another piece of the Constitution go down in flames…because of some guy with flammable underwear. Their cost…1000.00? Our cost?
          Something that can never be replaced, let alone the dollars involved.

        • Fred in Laurel, Md

          Yeah, now we can all just be tourists in Viet Nam and buy stuff. Never mind the thousands upon thousands who died in the (predicted) blood bath when we pulled out, because the same rats who are now in charge of our government persuaded the Congress to sink its knife in the backs of our troops who were actually winning. I guess when John Kerry said 30 years later to our troops, “I’ve got your back …” he must’ve left out the rest of the sentence “… in my gunsights.” Thank God for Bush, for not letting him or them do that to us again a generation later in Iraq. Mr. Grundy, we could have stayed there and completed the victory that your friends on that wall gave their last to achieve, and at least they wouldn’t have died in vain.

          • Tinwarble

            Fred,

            I think the number was about 3 million after we pulled out, that’s not counting the unknown number after that time or counting the one’s being starved to death now because the regime there wants to build a nuke.♠♠♠

          • Joe H.

            Fred,
            Amen brother and welcome home!!!

        • Norm

          amen

          • Norm

            amen to Arkham Grundy that is.

        • Tinwarble

          Arkham,

          Thank you for your service, but as a Vet myself and having some experience in the matter of terrorism, I will have to respectfully disagree. This, unlike other wars we have been in, isn’t a matter of a war of nations, this is a war of ideals. Theirs being that they wish destroy or convert all who don’t share theirs.

          The Muslim extremist don’t care what our foreign policies are, even though they have used it as an excuse to attack us, it is not their main concern. They believe that we are the infidels and all infidels have to be destroyed, because the Koran tells them to “slay & enslave the infidel”. There is no reasoning or understanding them, because you can do neither with someone who thinks that by there action of killing you (the infidel) they will win their place in heaven. You can no more reason with them than you could a hungry lion.

  • WW

    Why don’t we just let your god(s) determine who should get on any form of transportation, especially the aircraft form…. after all, he or she is all knowing and would certainly save all those christians from embarassment and possible death. There is something that everyone can take away from these blogs and that is “Stupid is a condition, Ignorance is a choice”!!!! It is obvious there are alot of stupid people who continue to be ignorant. The cumlative IQ of these folks is close to a room temperature number!! But there will be loud outcry from everyone denouncing this, and all will continue to express themselves as “experts” when in fact they only show their ignorance!!!

    • Tinwarble

      WW,

      You call people ignorant, but show your own intelligence by only attacking those here and offering no solutions nor even a sharp criticism. Oh, how you must bask the glory of your own obtuse reason.

      • Joe H.

        Tinwarble,
        I think there is a better chance he is basking in the glow of his own ignorance!!!

        • Tinwarble

          Joe H,

          Yes, “obtuse reason” = “ignorance”.

  • Brian N Smith

    don`t worry THE MARK OF THE BEAST(666) IS NEXT AND DR HENRY KISSINGER
    WILL GET HIS WISH!

  • http://Scanning willi e martens

    It is true that we should be concerned about security. I am a frequent flyer. However, body scanning is not only a threat becasue of “invasion of privacy”. That should not be the sole concern. It is a far more dangerous adventure from the radiation received, which unfortuantely nobody is even considering. The human body can only absorb a determined amount of radiation and that is the biggest concern. The choice unfortunately will become: Do you want to die from a terrorist attack or from an overdose of radiation? For an occasional flyer it is no problem but, for others it becomes a life threatening situation from a different perspective, RADIATION.

    • http://p.aranda@att.net Pauline

      Please bring up the radiation problem on the full body scanners at
      the airport. I’m more concern with the radiation that could be very
      harmful to the human body. Some one must educate the public on this matter.

      Thank you,

      Paulin Aranda

      • Tinwarble

        Pauline,

        From what I can find out the “Body Scanner” doesn’t use radiation, but uses radio waves and works more like a MRI than a X-Ray machine. Here’s some information on one type that they have used in the airports:

        http://www.dsxray.com/pdf/PV100_FAQJUN08.pdf

      • Tinwarble

        Oh, but I’m still not for it, because it’s not the best technology out there! I just thought that you might like more info on the matter.

  • John Shee

    Has any body tried to find out the root cause for terrorism? Why only we Americans beeing mostly targetted. Are we in self denail? Or perhaps we don’t want to know the truth. We are spending millions of dollars to stop this without finding it out why? I am as mad at the terrerism as any other fellow American. I have no soft corner for stupids who are blowing them self up. But I would like to find out why only we are the victims.

    • Joe H.

      John Shee,
      Gee I guess the English just had real bad weather in their subways right?

  • Jim

    Why we are being targeted? Is it because the Holy Koran says to fight the infidel until they submit or all religion is for Allah?(Islamic) The Holy Koran which says that you can break treaties with and lie to the infidel? The Holy Koran which is opposed to freedom of religion and conscience? Gee, I wonder why we are being targeted. As far as terrorizing foreigners, we don’t need to, most of their governments do a better job than we ever could (think Taliban, Saddam Hussein, Hamas, Palestinian Authority, Hezbullah, etc) The Islamists are opposed to freedom. Who is doing most of the heavy lifting in stopping them? The US. Next question?

    • John Shee

      Jim you did not get my point. There are lots of christian countries. Canada, Germany name a few, ofcourse they have been attacked but not to the extent as we are. We have got to get to the root cause, we cannot go on suffering with this terrorizem. We get carried away with what our priests tells us in the church. we have to go beyond that if want to resolve this problem. We don’t have to get down to Taliban’s level. We need to learn from our Lord Jesus what he tought us in bible. By coursing their book and looking down upon the rest of world is not going to solve the problem. It is not the Koran’s teaching that has brought them to this level. We Chistains are smarter and more educated in many aspects. By simply blaming their book without knowing the facts will make us look like them.

    • Tinwarble

      Jim,

      Not that I disagree with you on any point, but a slight correction. I think the Koran says “to slay & enslave the infidel”.

      And John Shee, the reason the Islamic terrorist want to kill us is because they want to set up and Islamic state. They attack us exactly because we have a tolerance of other religions and they think that Allah commands them to kill all non-believers.

  • A.E.Koor

    When I was in the Military many years ago I had to under go special training in a Harsh situtation, our classroom instructors trained us well and showed us how to stick many things up where the sun don’t shine, to get into a prison camp. Now today, you have a women who pretends to have her period, and a boyfried, who gets passed our whimpy scans at the airport, go to the bathroom on the airplane, and extracts “many” items that were put where the sun don’t shine, mix a martini and you guessed it “B O O M !” so stop your crying about full body scans……..any questions……..

    • JC

      Well I guess that same logic is what is used by the anti-gun nuts.
      If one psycho goes berserk with a gun…everybody should suffer for it. Same idea right?

      • Tinwarble

        JC,

        Your assertion might hold true if every person with a gun wanted to shoot someone. Unfortunately, every Muslim extremist with a bomb on his back would love nothing more than than to take you & me (the infidels) with them on their way to meet Allah.

        • JC

          What percentage of Muslims is that?
          Unless you’re saying that every single Muslim is a threat…
          My assertion holds true either way. The logic is the same Tinwarble.

          • JC

            PS, Who knows? Maybe they are.

          • Joe H.

            JC,
            Every Muslim coming from the middle east is a POTENTIAL threat!!! Do you want to take the chance when you fly?

          • Tinwarble

            JC,

            I don’t know what percentage it is, but you could count them the next time that they show them on TV chanting “death to America, death to Israel”.

  • The Goat

    You know it does not surprise me that these so called american democratic government officials would resort to letting americans die so they could control us through pshycological means. that would mean they are no better than the people we are fighting at present. i think they have shown us they are incapable of running this country. i really think they just want to line thier reseume with destroying a country, and filling thier pockets with money. as obama’s wife said…..you dont have to love a country to run it, i guess she was talking about into the ground.just wait….there will be one that slides by and does blow a plane up and then see where and how bad this crap gets.

    • independant thinker

      You may be more correct than you know. Take what I relate next with a very large scepticism but it is something to consider. There is a theory that McVeigh was a government agent carrying out orders when he bombed the federal building in Oklahoma. There is also a theory that 9/11 was (take your pick) caused by Bush, ordered by Bush, or allowed by Bush. I have seen no documentation offered by those who make these claims but I also know our government is capeable of such things. It has released chemical/biological agents (supposedly non lethal) over large cities to see what effect they would have on the population. They knowingly exposed solders to radiation from nuclear bomb tests to see what effect it would have on them. They exposed people to veneral desease without telling the subjects they were being exposed to see what their reactions to the disease would be.

      • denniso

        McVeigh was a perverted,evil,child killing,idiot who thought he was starting the next Am revolution to ‘free’ America from the evil gov’t,much like some people on this site think. What purpose would it have served the gov’t to blow up their own building?? Would a ‘gov’t agent’ have gone to his death willingly w/o blowing the whistle on his bosses?? It’s another absurd ‘theory’ among many others.

  • M. Peach Obama

    What if the bomber walked past a Starbucks in the airport, are we gonna ban coffee on flights next? How about ball point pens, did the bomber have one on him? ‘OK, no more writing utensils’…When is it going to end?

    PROFILE the bastards! DISCRIMINATE! The word means ‘choose’ you know—to exercise judgment or to choose something is not a bad thing!!!!

    Janet Incompetano needs to be unceremoniously shown the door. She and her incompetent President (not my prez) should call all of their terrorist friends on speed dial, and just ask them not to blow up any planes. Right? Right. But they won’t do that, because the Teleprompter in chief WANTS sharia law in the US. Detroit is Obama city for him!

    Just another Typical White Person p-o’d at the Marxist-in-chief and wishing that James Earl Ray were around.

    • The Goat

      AAAAAAAAMMMMMMEEEEENNNNN for the sped reder amen

      • denniso

        Sour Peach…I hate to tell you this,but Obama IS your president,if you live in my country. And,you sort of people have to show your true colors again and wish for the killing of Obama…disgusting,unpatriotic,and I hope the FBI is watching you! You are the very definition of a traitor for making that comment!

  • jomama

    This really SHOULD NOT bother you if you have nothing to hide. I think it’s a great idea!!

    • J C

      Having nothing to hide does not diminish my right to privacy.
      Having nothing to hide does not mean I should submit my body (my private property)to radiation.

      • independant thinker

        Well said JC

      • denniso

        j c…I can just imagine that you indeed have nothing to hide..

  • jomama

    Now let’s go & catch some terrorists & criminals!!!

  • Robert D

    Has anyone thought about scanning people BEFORE they enter an airport? Think about how much carnage a terrorist could do near check-in/luggage desks before they even get to the security areas. It would take months to re-build a blown-up terminal and deaths/injuries would be far greater than 200 in a single plane.

  • Marilyn

    If it takes full body scans to fly safely, I’m all for it. But, those scans do not search body crevices or stomach balloons. How will that be handled? The creeps who want to impose fear are doing a great job. The creeps who are intimidating good Citizens are doing a great job. And, reading about “profiling,” my daughter and an elderly couple were profiled?? on return trip from CT. All the creepy looking passengers walked right by them and into the terminal waiting room. My daughter stood in a wire cage, bare footed, while she endured the wand up her legs into her crotch. (Everyone could watch this!) Her purse was emptied to reveal Kotex, lipstick,comb, billfold…The elderly couple had their shoes removed and went through the same procedure! I did note that the elderly woman did not carry Kotex in her purse. All the while, the creepy looking passengers passed right by without a search. If ‘profiling’ would come to that, then it will not work because the airports will miss possible terrorists. To sum up, I am for full body search for everyone but not in front of all passengers.

    • independant thinker

      I am against giving up one more tiny bit of my freedom so some fed can pretend he has done something to increase my security. I have carried a pocket knife everyday of my life since I was 10 years old if not longer and depending on what I am doing I sometimes carry two or three different ones. In order to fly anywhere I would have to give up my knives or lock them in my checked baggage. My knives are tools and I use them every day. This plus feeling even less secure under all the rules and regulations now in effect are the reasons I will not fly If I can use my automobile or Amtrack and a rental vehicle to go where I need and do what I want.

  • David Ruth

    I travel a lot on my job 1 or 2 trips a week, I have to tell you that the security we all have to do is nothing but a joke. I have spoken with TSA agents and he told me that they are not finding guns or bombs they are finding drugs. For the man who tried to blow up a plane on Christmas he should of never been allowed on the flight. We had enough intel that if our government was doing their job this would not of happened. As far as the scanners are concerned every time I run into them I always refuse to go in and I then have to to thru a pat down. I also have watched who is being chosen to go thru the scan and 9 out of 10 times it is your typical business travelers you know they guys with the laptops & Blackberry’s.

    If someone wants to bring a bomb on board trust me a scanner is not going to find it unless we do a cavity search and that is not going to happen. We need to work on profiles and bring in some bomb sniffing process. Every person who fly’s in this country should be checked against the data base prior to arrival at the airport after all that’s why we have it.

  • Wm Murray

    A little less than a year ago I was put through a random full body scan at TIA (Tampa, FL). After going throuh the scanning I was embarrased to see that the monitor was positioned for the guards at the scanning location to view, along with any fellow passengers looking in the right direction. Suffice to say there is enough “detail” shown on that monitor to embarrass most American citizens. The statements I continue to see about the monitor being in a remote location and not visible to passengers or the guards doing the “search” was NOT my experience.

  • http://AmericaTakenDown&ChinaOnTheRise RoseC

    1. Is the health of every American at risk when going through a full body scan?
    2. Who controls the radiation?
    3. How much radiation will frequent flyers experience accumulatively?
    4. Does radiation kill the living cells and cause aging and death?
    5. Does the scans expose the various health issues of each human being and can those scans be used for HealthCare Reform decisions?
    6. Will all government officials be subjected to the body scan each time they travel as those on private jets will be exempt, so will all government officials exempt themselves just like they exempted themselves from liaibility for those effected with adverse side effects from the vaccinations and exempted themselves from ObamaCare?
    7. Where will the scans be kept and who will access them just like the thousands of leaks that are suppose to be “CONFIDENTIAL” and SECURED government information that always gets out one way or another?
    8. Who will be liable for any body scans stolen just like computer lists are stolen with identification information consistently from big businesses?
    9. Will the American people without criminal records and no terrorist connections be allowed to sign an exemption from the body scans?
    10. Why should innocent people be subjected to body scans that adversely effect our health – even doctors must ensure that the body is covered and only the x-rayed part is to be exposed and warn of health hazards?

    • alibertyhawk

      I recently saw on fox NEWS Doctor segment on Sunday morning that the Radiation was not a factor unless pregnancy was involved. it is equal to 2 hrs of sunlight.My personal thought is that getting blown to bits by a terrorist seems to be more lethal. I DO deplore the terrorists that have caused this in the world but with perseverance we will triumph this evil one day. Stay strong all.

    • Joe H.

      RoseC,
      I think you will find there is NO radiation!! As stated above it is like an MRI and I have had about a full dozen of those and no ill effects!!! I just wish I didn’t glow at night!!!!

      • Tinwarble

        Joe H,

        Well, at least you don’t have to worry about stumping your toe when you walk through the house at night!!!

  • DaveH

    The thing that concerns me the most is why does anybody think the Government suspension of our 4th amendment rights will be confined to airports?
    Soon, we can just kiss all of our Constitutional Rights goodbye, as there will always be excuses to wave them.
    We need to work hard to roll back the size of Government. Vote Libertarian. Here is a comparison of Libertarian ideas in a Nutshell:
    http://www.theadvocates.org/library/comparison-of-philosophies.html

    • Norm

      DaveH
      You need to live alone, raise your own food, take csre of your own health (without doctors), and get all your cash in gold so you can count it in your spare time.

      • DaveH

        I do take care of myself Norm. If doctors depended on me for a living, they would go broke.

        • Norm

          DaveH
          Congratulations you (and I) have been blessed with good health so far. I hope for your sake your health remains good.

  • PatS

    What about the Health Effects from the airport body scans? If you fly frequently, how much negative radiation is emitted into the body? Any information on this?

  • Robert

    Why not just ban all Arabs and Muslims from flying into our country? Why not stop issuing B1Hi visas to Muslims and Arabs? Why not expel all Arabs and Muslims here on student visas? Wouldn’t that mitigate most of the terrorist threats against us? Or would it upset the politicians? I guess my idea is too radical. But then I’m just a born in this country American citizen and should be grateful that the Arabs and Muslims in this country allow me to live. I’m such an ungratefull sob thinking these bad things about those peace loving, human rights respecting Arabs and Muslims. I must be one of those touble causing, patriotic American christians you hear about. I should be ashamed of myself. God bless Alah and his fithly stinking virgins. May they be blessed with a life time supply of pork rinds.

    • Arkham Grundy

      good for you, Robert.

      If 90% of the world’s problems are coming from Muslim countries, we should grant only the most essential visas to people. If the rest of the Muslim world objects to being profiled or being denied entry into the US let them get the the radical jihadists under control so they stop being a threat. If the silent “good” Muslims just sit back and let insane mullahs encourage terrorist acts then THEY should suffer consequences , too: no visas. If they want to go live in Western countries and then demand that those countries adapt their own cultures to accommodate the Muslims, let them stay home.

      Germany has problems with Turks, The Netherlands have immense problems with Morroccanbs, France has problems with Algerian Italy has a huge problem with Muslim immigrants demanding cul;tural changes from the italians, Thailand has problems with he Muslims near their souther border with Malasia.

      Considering all this profiling does make some sense.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    I think it’s about time the French redeem their tarnished reputation. For centuries now, they have taught swine to search out Truffles, a delicacy which grows underground. Now, if they would only teach them to sniff out other things, such as various and diverse chemicals used in concocting the explosives used in blowing up aircraft, they could make a fortune renting them out to the TSA, for example. An added benefit, of course, would be the separation of the “Porcine Intolerant” from the non-Porcine Intolerant.

  • Orrie

    We wouldn’t need all this if we kept our borders secure, refused Muslims enterance into our country and kept our noses out of foreign entanglements. We’re at war with terrorists and they are right here in America. So, who is to blame for this? I’ll give you one guess and if you get it wrong you have been brainwashed.

  • Orrie

    Ask your politicians why are there over 35 Muslim training camps in America that are training their people to kill with AK47s and knife fighting. Don’t believe me? Hancock, New York has an active camp and you can check this out for yourself.

  • John Shee

    Remember Newtons Third Law my christain Americans. Every action has reaction. The more we hate moslims and arabs the more terrists we are creating. Follow our Lord Jesus’s teaching stop pointing fingers at them. Lord Jesus never hated his enemies. He concord every bodys heart with love. This way there will be more peace in your heart and bring happiness in our life. Let us not get down to taliban’s metality and show our ugly side which does not reflect our true relegion.

    • Joe H.

      John Shee,
      Are we forgetting Jericho????

    • denniso

      Good idea,but you miss the point that most of these people love/live to hate!!

  • Marilyn

    Yep. and now talk about gun control! Guess who will have guns and who won’t if that gets passed. Those Muslim camps aren’t giving up or registering their guns and thugs who like to rob and kill aren’t going to give away their guns or register them…By the way – why does our government allow Muslim groups on American soil? Who ushered in all the Muslims in January 2009 and why?

    • Robert

      Who ushered in all the Muslims in January 2009 and why?
      The knucklehead in the White House and the idiots in the Capital Building. Their attitude is you have to be fair just they can’t live next door to where I live. Y is a crooked letter. Seems apprapo for the ones responsible. Hope that answers your question.

  • John Shee

    Here we go again!!!!!

  • DaveH

    Full body scans. Talk about an invasion of privacy. It saddens me that so many people are willing to give up their freedom and their dignity for the illusion of safety.

    • DaveH

      From Ben Franklin:
      “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”.

      • JC

        And they will have neither.

      • Tinwarble

        Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.

        It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.

        George Washington

  • rosematovich

    I really believe that you,” the American ordinary citizen” can think and read.Thinking means to weigh the facts and look beyond your bias to weigh the facts.Thank God for Bush indeed!It is the Cheney,Rumsfeld,Wolfowitz,Bremmner war on Iraq and bombing of Afganistan that escalated this mess.And while you are at it look at the millions that bunch collected from the American treasury to finance these wars.Look it up,Who owns Halliburton?Their wealth multiplied during the first few days of selling munitions to the US Government.And who contracted the Blackwater group?

  • Noni

    I disagree with the body scan for all the reasons others have given, but it may be necessary until something better is developed. I have had a learning experience from reading the above. I agree that maintenance and servicing personnel need to be carefully checked before getting near an aircraft. For the past 40 years, I have flown mostly in the USA in our own small aircraft, but due to illness, had to sell. My husband just about refuses to fly commercial for a number of reasons. We did fly to Denver several years ago. I had an interesting experience on departure home. I am now a 70 year old WASP grandmother & retired teacher. I was wearing undergarments, a T-shirt and skirt, having a pacemaker, I was taken into a plexiglass tube, frist all over with the hand rod. It was finally decided that the underwire in my bra was “setting off” the wan. I was just about to remove it through my armhole, fearful my husband would pass-out, I resisted. Profiling is a must. I do not believe I fit the profile of a terrorist!! Political Correctness must go. The CIA or a new office, combining all terrorist, “Bad people” records, etc must have one head, and not Janet’s. I think Bomb sniffing dogs, pigs or whatever is the best way to go. Many people have “Body bags” for medical/body refuse, how will they be treated? Other’s have metal or other man-made body parts. I had a Bilateral Mastsectomy in 1992, with reconstruction, I am curious how that will appear on a body scan!! This is the first I had read of the Christmas would be bomber wearing just a T-shirt to Detroit – this did not wave flags? What in common sense does it take? I blamb Nigeria admitting him, his cash payment, the concern that his father raised to different embassies being ignored, again, what does it take to get attention?? I am not sure he would have been re-assessed in Amsterdam, he should have been stopped in Nigeria. I was in Germany in 1985, I knew we had military bases there, what I did not know was that almost every other town in Germany had a US military installation. Also, I was there just after the Frankfurt Airport bombing, military walked the airport, carrying rifles. I say bring our military to US soil, from around the world. Maybe leave a hospital in Germany and in some place in the Pacific Ocean, but bring the others home and use to protect our soil, our borders, our aircraft. Have several – 6? sharp-shooters from our military, in uniform, carrying firearms, and bomb experts along with bomb sniffing dogs. I just think this might be better than what we are doing. “Flash” our military might in plain sight. I loved the comment of having “security” with IQ’s higher than room temperature.
    I recently flew from a modest sized airport in Dixie to NYC, this airport is known for doing a more thorough search than most. I had more ck up going than returning from NYC. Interesting, no? I am for people coming here who are disease free, law abiding, and wanting to
    WORK for a better life. I am against these millions we now have wanting to tear down our country, collecting tax dollars that I am paying and being kept up medically and every other way by the American Taxpayer. Refuse them entry (including the recently allowed AIDS immigrants). I know someone, who a number of years ago, overstayed her visa in Austalia. She was located and had to return to the USA. Why is it we do not know how many people we have who should have left years ago, do not know where they are, and are doing nothing to change the situation?? I need answers to lots of questions.

  • mike f

    1. they dont like pigs….not dogs….

    2. have train sniffing pigs,,,serve pork only at the airports,,,

    3. we should make a big parking lot over there for wally world…

    4. start public excutions,,with bullits soak in pig’s blood,,so when
    when die they dont get their virgins…in the after life…

    • Tinwarble

      Here’s a better idea. If a Muslim man see a naked woman he must kill himself, so I propose to let all those PETA hippie chicks that like to go out on the street naked & dance around in the Airports. That way you don’t have to worry about being told not to eat meat on your way Outback and you get rid of the terrorist at the same time.

      • libertytrain

        I don’t know if that would work – the 9-11 terrorists reportedly visited stip clubs prior to their attack and deaths. And the Ft. Hood Doctor/Major murderer, was apparently a regular at a strip club in his area.

      • Joe H.

        Tinwarble,
        I take it you saw the shot of the military aircraft that had a naked woman painted into the camo paint job????

  • Noni

    I agree with public excutions – when there is absolute positive proof of guilt. Back in the mid 1970′s, I took my fifth graders on a field trip to one of the first white settlements in Arkansas, near Lake Village, Arkansas. At that time, the hanging platform and place for the rope was still on the court house lawn. That was swift, quick, cheap justice. I strongly have an adverse reaction to people who have lost family members, sit and know that the person who “Done them Wrong” sits in prison, everything provided for him, TV, law library, free legal aid, medical care, PE, everything they need/want provided, oh, did I mention free college? They sit for 20, 30 or more years and make appeals, appeals, and more appeals and cost us millions of dollars. It makes no sense to me. If they are red-handed guilty, off with their heads, quickly. Period.

  • Noni

    Gee, I do not know how the little pic of the sailor kissing the nurse got on my site, but I like it. I always loved that photo in NYC at the end of WWII. By the way, that nurse retired to Sarasota, Fla., and a statue of them is in Sarasota. Go by and look at the next time you are in the area.

  • Phil Dru

    Lot’s of pros and cons. Simple. Profile. 18 -35 year old middle easteners. Can anyone tell me when the last time a whte haired grandma or a little kid blew up the plane? For all those who are in favor of body scanning – “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Ben Franklin. 1755.

  • eddie47d

    Muslims are living all over the world;over one billion practice this religion. A person who puts on a suicide vest and kills innocents is a terrorists . A group of persons who kill athletes in Munich are terrorists. The 19 highjackers were terrorists. They all happen to be Muslim,but that doesn’t make all Muslims terrorists. There are factions in every religion who have committed horrible crimes. All Christians came from the common bond of the Jewish faith. Yet most German Catholics and Lutherans joined the Nazi Party and committed terrible deeds. Those who did’t were arrested as unpatriotic. Most Muslim nations have despotic leaders even the rich ones,and the people follow like sheep. We must find a way to address this issue.

    • denniso

      Tim McVeigh was white,the republic of TX guys were white,David Coresh was white,neo nazis are white,Ted Kazinzki was white…We’ve been ‘at war’ for 8 freaking yrs now w/ thousands dead and thousands maimed and a trillion $$ spent and we are still at square one…the only thing that will work is global education and international support for economic progress and an end to the palestinian problem w/ us looking like the bad guys there. Keep in mind that Cheny/Bush used the terrorist fear for political gain and don’t be a pawn in more fear mongering.

      • Joe H.

        dennislobber,
        If killing a couple hundred thousand or more of them keeps them from killing another 3,000 innocents here, then I say we have at it!!!

        • denniso

          Joe…I know that logic isn’t your strong point but apparently killing all those thousands of dead soldiers,women,babies and old men hasn’t worked too well since we just had another terrorist incident. Think…

    • RICH

      IF WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT CATHOLICS AND LUTHREN ARE TRUE”? THEN WHY DID THEY”? ISN’T THAT IMPORTANT”? I THINK IT IS.REMEMBER..THE JEWS KILLED JESUS. BY ASKING PILATE TO GIVE THEM A KILLER AND PLACE JESUS ON THE CROSS IN HIS PLACE. How Many German Jews served In The Kaisers Army In WW’1?

  • TaraLee

    I cannot believe that so many say, “If it keeps us all safe…” IT WON’T!!! Profiling – and eliminating visas to those coming from countries known to harbor terrorists will! Period.

  • Michael J.

    Seems like a nightmare episode of the Twilight Zone. “Attack of the Body Scanners”. I saw that movie. This time the perpetrater was a rich man’s son. Probably the only family in Nigeria who could afford underwear.
    Someone mentioned in an earlier post that explosive sniffers could have detected this bomb in the terrorists underwear. Good luck finding someone to fill that position. Just imagine coming home after a long day at the airport knowing that your jealous wife was going to ask you “so how many female crotches did you sniff today”? To which you apply your standard reply “it’s my job, honey”.
    You are absolutely right, who ever brought it up in an earlier post. The founding fathers could never have imagined the world we might face today. I beleive the constitution was crafted with just that perameter in mind. An amazing document of around 17 pages or so whose words are now being challenged by a 2500 page document. I beleive it will once again be sucessful in befuddling the socialist plotters or at least keep them at bay till another day. Freedom is not free but comes at a cost. That cost we pay is eternal vigilance.

  • TaraLee

    By the way, Muslims do consider dogs to be unclean.

  • chuck b

    how about starting a new airline, liberal’s & muslim’s only. the pilot would have to be of arabic descent, no profiling, no scanner, carry on package allowed, no embarrassing questions such as gender, praying in the aisle permitted, must bring own rug, one box cutter per person and cell phone calls at any time. the plane must have kill button to be operated by the u.s authorities when entering the u.s, air space. this should satisfy all who are worried about their civil liberties.

    • The Goat

      coffee ,tea ,blasting cap?

      • Joe H.

        Nah,
        coffee, tea, or pig leather oxygen masks, then turn off the O!!!

  • RICH

    I WON’T SUBMIT TO GIVING AWAY MY FOURTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION”! A FULL BODY SEARCH MACHINE. WHAT ABOUT THE POROUS MEXICAN BORDER……..GIVE ME A BREAK…….THE “NAIVE” DELUDE THEMSELVES WITH THIS INVASION OF “THEIR” PRIVACY……HOW MANY MORE “RIGHTS” MUST CITIZEN AMERICANS GIVE UP”!”"”? LET’S HAVE THE FEDS DO A BETTER JOB ON THE MEXICAN BORDER. THEIR “CHARADE” IS WEARING THIN AT AMERICAS AIRPORTS’!

    • qwerty

      haaahhahahahahahah

  • jay

    the problem is with the people working the machines. they are not properly trained and not ready for some of these plots. better machines with the same people does not address the overall problem. it was a failure of people exercising good judgement to stop the bomber on christmas. with xray tech all we will get is the same silly tsa workers looking at us naked and be no safer for it. plus we would need to invest more money that we shouldn’t be spending on these new machines. my guess that xray scanners are not cheap…

  • fu

    sssssss

  • qwerty

    why r u races mos5t americans are mexican!

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