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Contrarian Professor Attacked For Rejecting Racial Conventional Wisdom

November 21, 2012 by  

Contrarian Professor Attacked For Rejecting Racial Conventional Wisdom
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California State University Long Beach professor Kevin MacDonald has come under fire, being called a white supremacist and neo-Nazi, for arguing that white people should have the same ability to pursue their interests as minorities.

MacDonald is a psychology professor at the college as well as the leader of the American Third Position (A3P), a political party that opposes immigration.

On its website A3P states:

The American Third Position is a patriotic, democratic alternative to the two parties that have wrecked our great nation. The U.S. political system has been shaped by the corrupt, entrenched, nearly identical Democrat and Republican machines. They are united in their ruthless suppression of all “third” parties.

Parts of our beautiful country now resemble Third World communities in Latin America, Africa and Asia. White people are already a minority in many cities and counties, along with several states, both large and small. Without constructive political action, within a few decades we will become a minority across the entire country. Enough is enough!

The American Third Position Party believes that government policy in the United States discriminates against white Americans, the majority population, and that white Americans need their own political party to fight this discrimination. Our government no longer represents us. The Democrats no longer represent us. The Republicans no longer represent us. There is a real need to educate European Americans that they have common interests, common values, and common traditions.

MacDonald’s prosecution for his beliefs that white Americans (who he says will be a minority by 2045) should have groups working in their best interests has led to attempts to have him fired from his job and students boycotting his classes.

“There’s the NAACP for black people, the ADL for Jewish-Americans, but the very thought that white people have identity and should be able to organize to pursue their interests as white people is off the map, and anyone who talks that way they will try to fire them,” MacDonald said in a recent interview.

His beliefs in white advocacy has made his ideas popular with some white supremacists and hate groups, though the professor contends that he is not espousing hate, but rather wishes to preserve white society.

Unfortunately for MacDonald, groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Anti-Defamation League — both have been described as extremely intolerant of views not in line with their own — have led an assault against the professor to portray him as a man who justifies slavery and genocide.

SPLC even relished in harming the man’s teaching career in a bio on its website:

Kevin MacDonald is the neo-Nazi movement’s favorite academic. A psychology professor at California State University, Long Beach, MacDonald, who also is a board member of the white supremacist Charles Martel Society, published a trilogy that supposedly “proves” that Jews are genetically driven to destroy Western societies. MacDonald also argues that anti-Semitism, far from being an irrational hatred for Jews, is a logical reaction to Jewish success in societies controlled by other ethnic or racial groups. After the publication of a 2007 Intelligence Report exposé detailing MacDonald’s anti-Semitism, his teaching duties were reduced and many of his colleagues publicly condemned his racist research.

Reading some of MacDonald’s writings offers a far less sensational portrait than anti-hate, hate groups like SPLC or ADL would have one believe. The academic’s biggest crime, it seems, is taking a contrarian academic view on issues that were long ago hijacked by the political-correctness movement. While many of MacDonald’s views may not be popular, they are far less dangerous than the free-speech chilling tactics undertaken by his detractors at SPLC and ADL.

There is a much larger philosophical debate to be had, because some questions grow louder and louder each day: How much power do we give those with the monopoly on righteousness? And who will they be?

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Botti

    ***How much power do we give those with the monopoly on righteousness? And who will they be?***

    Good question.

    • TeaParty Patriot (TPP)

      http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-stopped-in-electoral-college/

      How Obama can be stopped in Electoral College

      Just like the “rats did in Wisconsin and the “rats did in Texas when they left the state to deny the RINOs a state quorum. DENY the electoral college a quorum by refusing to show up at the college . . . Read more

      Exclusive: Judson Phillips offers constitutional means to put Romney in office Jan. 21
      Published: 16 hours ago

      by Judson PhillipsEmail | Archive
      Judson Phillips is the founder of Tea Party Nation. Follow him on Twitter at @judsonphillips or @teapartynation.

      We have one last, final chance to save America. We have one last, final chance to stop Barack Obama. One final chance.
      What is this final chance? Will the Republicans step up to the plate and do what is necessary?

      Barack Obama has not yet been re-elected president.
      Yes, the election is over – but remember, a presidential election in America is not by popular vote. We vote for the candidate, but what we are really doing is voting for the electors who will meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
      That is when the actual re-election of the president occurs.
      Is there a way to stop this?
      Yes, there is.
      And the best part – this is totally constitutional.
      The 12th Amendment of the Constitution as well as Article II of the Constitution govern the Electoral College.
      According to the 12th Amendment, for the Electoral College to be able to select the president, it must have a quorum of two-thirds of the states voting. If enough states refuse to participate, the Electoral College will not have a quorum. If the Electoral College does not have a quorum or otherwise cannot vote or decide, then the responsibility for selecting the president and vice president devolves to the Congress.
      The House of Representatives selects the president and the Senate selects the vice president.
      Since the Republicans hold a majority in the House, presumably they would vote for Mitt Romney, and the Democrats in the Senate would vote for Joe Biden for vice president.
      Can this work?
      Sure it can.
      Democrats have actually set this precedent of refusing to participate to deny Republicans a quorum. They did this in Wisconsin and in Texas. Why can’t we do this with the Electoral College?
      Mitt Romney was a terrible candidate, and he will not be a great president. But he will be infinitely better than Barack Obama.
      So how do we do this?
      Mitt Romney carried 24 states. We need to have conservative activists from all over the nation contact the electors, the Republican Party and the secretary of state in all of these states and tell them not to participate in the Electoral College when it meets on Dec. 17.
      If we can get 17 of those states (just over one-third) to refuse to participate, the Electoral College will have no quorum. Then, as the Constitution directs, the election goes to the House of Representatives.
      That is how we can still pull this election out and make Mitt Romney president in January.
      We need this concept shared with every tea party, liberty and patriotic group throughout the country. We have time to act, but we must pressure Republicans to do the right thing.
      It does not matter who gets credit for this. The credit is not important. Using our last chance to defeat Barack Obama is important.
      Far too often the Republican Party seems more interested in losing gracefully than winning and governing.
      This is our last chance. We the people must contact the electors, party officials and secretaries of state from every red state and insist that they refuse to participate in the Electoral College.
      We can still save America and use the Constitution to do it. But this truly is our last chance.

      • Gman

        You Sir, are an idiot. Just who do you believe came up with the electoral college ? Since no minority or coalition of minorities has ever had the power to institute even the slightest amendment to laws of our land as related to voting, I would say that your own “saltine” gamesmanship has been turned against you by a superior intellect. I know it hurts to think that “animals” of many stripes could ever outsmart the superior majority, but there you have it. Because your kind is so intractable in it’s insistence that you are mentally superior to the denizens who only pose as humans, you overlook things that should be smacking you in your face. After all, didn’t you in your Divine wisdom wisdom create welfare to keep some factions of the populace from finding gainful employment ? Who allowed / brought the drugs into this country ? What minority is powerful enough to do this kind of thing without the majority’s blessing ? And it seemed to be OK until young majority children and teenagers started doing drugs along with everybody (sic) else. But that’s enough for now. I’m sure you get my drift. A long time ago I heard someone say “don’t start none, won’t be none”. Guess you leavened folks never understood what that meant.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        Sounds good to me ! Any thing has got to be better than obozo .

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    YES – CAUCASIANS NEED THEIR OWN POLITICAL PARTY. AMERICANS OF COLOR CAN NO LONGER JUSTIFY THEIR PUNISHMENT OF CAUCASIANS FOR PAST EVILS. NO ONE CAN DENY THE FACTS:

    I). NEGRO MIDDLE- AND UPPER CLASSES ARE GROWING DUE TO ACCESS TO BETTER EDUCATION, INCREASED JOB SALARIES, HOME OWNERSHIP AND SUBSTANTIAL MONETARY FUNDS; AND,
    II). AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS NO LONGER NEEDED. MANY COLORED YOUTH HAVE NO INTEREST IN GOING TO COLLEGE. COMPANIES LIKE, FedEx, WILL HIRE THEM WITHOUT A DEGREE. [In Memphis, many colored youth who work in FedEx's Hub (without a degree) are happy with their pay]. COLORED YOUTH WHO DO GO TO COLLEGE CAN ESTABLISH COMFORTABLE LIVES FOR THEMSELVES. SO, FORCING THE GOVERNMENT TO SAFEGUARD COLORED PEOPLE’S INTERESTS IS SILLY IN 2012.

    THERE IS NO HARM IN ALLOWING CAUCASIANS TO SEPERATE THEMSELVES FROM PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY WANT TO DEMONIZE THEM. THUS, A “White Advocacy Party” IS DEFINITELY OKAY [AND, NEEDED].

    • Charlie

      C A H,,,
      The complex , but simple, question that all need to answer is ,the various races are obviously here,,,BUT,,,can “Science” alone from a Psych’ Prof’ such as Kevin MacDonald answer “with” long standing Truth that has never been proven wrong,,,just who? is the Supreme Race???
      Supreme , physically , mentally , spiritually ??? “We” say this question CANNOT be answered with Supreme Authority ,without vast knowledge of The Book called The Holy Bible,,, and being one of God’s Chosen People…………. What do you think Mr. Horton? Meanwhile…
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

      • Kate8

        The question is, why does one race have to be brought down in order that another be lifted up?

        This is just another tactic of those who work to divide us for the purpose of gaining power for themselves. Inciting hatred and resentment works well to keep the people preoccupied with grievances against each other while the real culprits work behind the scenes. It’s another case for watching what the other hand is doing.

        Every race has been enslaved at one time or another. Blacks don’t have the corner on this. The Barbary pirates were (and still are!) notorious for capturing Europeans and selling them as slaves and concubines. Blacks did lots of not-so-nice things to their British invaders, as well. Justified, no doubt. Same with the Chinese, East Indians, etc.

        People don’t like having their lives and cultures disrupted. The fact that a few people of every racial strain do these things does not implicate EVERY person on Earth as guilty. The vast majority of folks just want to be left alone to CHOOSE where and with whom they want to live, and do resent having some despotic system FORCE them into the wonders of multicultural living.

        The purpose of this, of course, is isolation, which tends to happen when people don’t understand or trust their neighbors. The atmosphere of community is lost.

        As I was listening to a video of Celtic Woman, I felt awe at the cultural beauty of my own Celtic roots, and thought it tragic that everything white has become PinC. We should ALL have the pleasure of celebrating our cultural roots, while at the same time appreciating those of others. That anyone needs to be deemed “superior” or “inferior” is simply a divisive tactic, and it’s high time we kick these idiots out of positions where they can continue to create this climate.

        So what if we have white communities, black communities, Asian, etc. People thrive best among those with whom they share commonality. There is no reason why this cannot be so, while at the same time living harmoniously. The fact that government has FORCED alien cultures into established communties, and FORCED said community to disperse, only to have the same thing happen over and over… And just look at how that has manifested.

        We now are being told how we have a Hispanic invasion, an Asian invasion, a Russian invasion, and on and on, and how these factions are lathering up to kill the ever-so-hated (white) Americans, who would never have dreamt of participating in the events that folks are so angry about, but the PTB (who are the real perps) love to hype.

        It doesn’t have to be like this. Without political interference, people would simply seek their own comfort levels, and we wouldn’t have to endure such racial and cultural angst.

      • TML

        “…just who? is the Supreme Race???”

        The Human race, you dolt, lol…. but the bible away.

      • TML

        put*

      • Charlie

        TML,,,
        IF,,, you’re in the human race,,. We have a clue for you ,,,you are a loser… Meanwhile………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        WOW, “Charlie,” WHAT A “HOT POTATO!”

        WELL, THE NEGRO SIDE OF ME SAYS NEGROES WIN THE PHYSICAL STRENGTH DEBATE HANDS-DOWN. PICKING COTTON FROM “SUN-UP TO SUN-DOWN” AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS PROVE THIS FACT.

        IN REFERENCE TO INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY, THE ISSUE OF WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION MUST BE DISCUSSED, FIRST. NEGROES WOULD SAY THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN “white folks’ s—” LIKE, Geoffrey Chaucer’s “Canterbury Tales” AND William Shakespeare’s “Macbeth.” BUT, THESE SAME NEGROES WHO FALSELY CLAIM THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS SAY THEY DEVELOPED THE FIRST ALPHABET. SO, THE INTELLECTUAL DEBATE MAY LEAD TO BLOODSHED.

        IN REFERENCE TO FAITH, THE ORIGINAL AFRICANS WERE PAGAN. ORGANIZED RELIGION HAS ONLY CAUSED TROUBLE FOR NEGROES. RELIGION HAS CAUSED NEGROES TO BECOME, “MASTERS OF HYPOCRISY.” WHEN THESE NEGROES MEET THEIR “MAKER,” HOW WILL THEY EXPLAIN SUPPORTING THE KENYAN’S ENDORSEMENT OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE? SO, CAUCASIANS WIN THE “ORGANIZED” SPIRITUALITY DEBATE.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, I ONLY WANT TO GIVE MORAL SUPPORT TO THOSE CAUCASIANS WHO FEEL “CHEATED” BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

        “Kate8,” MA’AM, I KNOW CAUCASIAN FEMALES HAVE THEIR OWN FIGHT IN REFERENCE TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. BUT, EVERYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS DEMONIZED CAUCASIAN MALES. THAT IS NOT FAIR.

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – We’ve all been manipulated by those whose only purpose is using humanity for their own personal gain (and dominance over us all).

        Right now we have the opportunity to see the truth, as it’s coming out for all to see (if only they can set aside their false ideologies long enough to take a look). Ideologies are nothing but part of the conditioning.

        We all have things to contribute. We have our areas of talent, and our shortcomings. We have those who support us and those who hate us.

        When we can understand that it’s all been conditioning from birth, and not at all true, perhaps we can recognize that the desires of ordinary folks are pretty much the same: to live free, love free, create, make a living and love family and neighbor.

        I’m willing to do my part. I suspect you are, as well. All we need to do is reach critical mass.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        Well sead Kate8 !

      • Charlie

        Mr. Horton,,,
        Your answer to MY “Supremacist” question was good ,,,but ,,, some Physical things the Negros , in general are no doubt faster on the run , but, notice most Quarter backs are Soda crackers … You may be a border line Supremacist in the mental game , so, keep up the good comments,,, time will tell ,IF, you can tell time,,,ha ha ha ……….. Meanwhile…………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • Frank Kahn

        What does “supreme race” have to do with his post?

    • ChuckS

      The problem isn’t minorities, but behavior. People should have a good work ethic, be productive, learn in school, respect the law and other people, not do illicit drugs, and wait until marriage for sex. Any group that does those things should be successful, respected members of society. A lot of Asians are better than most whites. The only people complaining about Asians may be liberals who think they have an unfair advantage. Unfortunately, a lot of whites are going backwards.

      A lot minorities are encouraged or at least condoned to have bad behavior. Bad liberal public schools are part of the problem. If a black kid tries to do well in school, he’s likely to be accused of being too white. I’ve heard that spanish language radio stations urge people to call an ambulance and go to the emergency room when they’re sick rather than take a cab to a clinic.

      • eddie47d

        Asians use to vote Republican but because of continual verbal attacks on minorities by the right they voted heavily for Obama. That means the Republicans are even turning off one of their strongest supporters.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “The only people complaining about Asians may be liberals who think they have an unfair advantage. Unfortunately, a lot of whites are going backwards.”

        Liberal’s believe that everybody should have equal treatment.

      • ChuckS

        They believe in affirmative action, which means unequal treatment. I believe that some affirmative action is OK, since not quite qualified people are hired all the time and trained. However, if people are brought in where they have little chance of doing the job, that’s excessive.

        I heard a few years ago that many black students at MIT were on academic probation, because their SATs were too low for MIT, but they were brought in anyway to meet racial quotas. This isn’t good for the students – a lot of them will likely fail. They would have done well at a schools where they’re close to the level of most of the students. For example, the University of Minnesota where I got my electrical engineering degree. I got a good education there. Or most state colleges or private colleges.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rich.schneider.714 Rich Schneider

        Well said.

      • Kate8

        eddie – The problem is not that the Republicans speak against minorities. Quite the contrary. They treat them as equals, not the entitled.

        The problem is that the Left panders to them to buy their votes. This suggests that they are NOT equally capable of doing for themselves. But then, when anyone offers handouts and advantages, you will have plenty of takers.

        Just another means to be divisive.

      • eddie47d

        Clean out your ears and open your eyes Kate 8. They say it right here so you can’t deny it or run from it. Nice try “sweetie”.

    • TML

      CAH says, “SO, FORCING THE GOVERNMENT TO SAFEGUARD COLORED PEOPLE’S INTERESTS IS SILLY IN 2012.

      THERE IS NO HARM IN ALLOWING CAUCASIANS TO SEPERATE THEMSELVES FROM PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY WANT TO DEMONIZE THEM. THUS, A “White Advocacy Party” IS DEFINITELY OKAY [AND, NEEDED].”

      I’m in agreement that because, and IF, there are groups such as the NAACP and the ADL, that it should be perfectly acceptable to have one for whites… HOWEVER, I will slightly alter your statement to express my true position which is; forcing the government to safeguard the interests of people based merely on race, is silly. I think such groups only serve, counter-intuitively, as a type of segregation of one’s self, and ultimately breeds division counter-productive to equality in the political and legal arena, and invited racial tensions. So, while I think there shouldn’t be such ‘parties’, I think if there are going to be, then it should rightfully be allowed for all races.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “TML,”

        THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR “ALTERATION” IS CAUCASIAN FEMALES. THE “Women’s Liberation Movement” WAS BASED ON INTERNAL DISAPPOINTMENTS CAUCASIAN FEMALES FELT AGAINST THEIR FATHERS AND HUSBANDS. BUT, WHEN PEOPLE OF COLOR LOOK AT A “white woman,” THEY SEE A FEMALE WHO GOES HOME TO A FATHER OR HUSBAND WHO IS THE CEO OF A MAJOR CORPORATION.

        IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN CAUCASIAN FEMALES SCREAM FOR, “Liberty!,” COLORED PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHY THEY ARE SCREAMING.

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – “Caucasian females” is pretty broad.
        Those to whom you are referring are mostly liberal females, and this restlessness has been evoked by societal engineering by those who would destroy the tradition of family.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, I AGREE. HOWEVER – FOR WHATEVER REASON – POOR-CAUCASIAN FEMALES ARE BASICALLY INVISIBLE (UNLESS, YOU ARE AT THE FOOD STAMP OFFICE).

        “Kate8,” MA’AM, TELEVISION SHOWS LIKE “Dynasty,” CAPTURED THE IMAGINATION OF NEGROES. SEEING “Krystle Jennings-Carrington” AND “Alexis Carrington-Colby-Dexter” WITH THEIR FANCY SPA TREATMENTS, SABLES, DIAMONDS AND PERSUASIVE SOCIO-ECONOMIC POWER GAVE NEGRO FEMALES “SOMETHING TO ASPIRE TO.”

        THEREFORE, EVEN IF A CAUCASIAN FEMALE ONLY EARNED $30, 000 ANNUALLY, SHE WAS “MORE ON THE BALL” THAN THE AVERAGE-NEGRO FEMALE. BECAUSE MOST NEGROES HAVE NOTHING, THEY ARE UNABLE TO PLACE A SPECIFIC MONETARY AMOUNT ON THE DEFINITION OF, “RICH.” SO, A “white woman” WITH $30K IS A “BIG-DEAL” TO NEGROES – FEMALE OR MALE – WHO RECEIVE $700 PER MONTH FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

        BECAUSE OF SLAVERY AND “Jim Crow’s” PLACING OF “white women” ON PEDESTALS, IN THE MINDS OF NEGROES CAUCASIAN FEMALES WILL ALWAYS BE VIEWED AS THE RECIPIENTS OF THEIR FATHERS’ AND/OR HUSBANDS’ “BOUNTY.”

    • Gman

      You would think that folks who feel that way would be mad at their forefathers and mothers for putting them in this situation. But we never take responsibility for our actions, especially those that come back to haunt us, do we ?

  • Ron r

    Are you for real or just an Internet Al Jolson. Or both. LOL CAH you are a hoot.

    • Elton

      You are the hoot. You should be swinging from a tree with your long arms rather than trying to post on the web

  • roger gunderson

    I’m all for preserving the white race. What is wrong with that? If not, the white race will gone in a number of years.

    • Lilimay

      It needs to have its demise!

      • rhcrest

        Why? If it wasn’t for WHITE MEN you wouldn’t even have a computer to type your stupid liberal nonsense on. You would be living in a hut with dirt floors just like the rest of the third world.

      • http://att.net Alice

        I think you are a black woman with negative feeling about white people. White people are hard working and paying taxes. White neighborhood is safe and clean compare to other non -white neighborhoods.

      • Oneguess

        Why? So you will feel better? Why?

    • eddie47d

      Whites and blacks should all be respectful of each other for there is really no alternative within our widely differing society. Segregation is also unworkable.

      • Lilimay

        rhcrest, it was Dr. Dean, a Black man, who made the computer useful for the general public and the reason it is widely used. You probably are not old enough to have seen the huge early cumbersome structures.

      • http://att.net Peter Martell

        It was Konrad Zuse who invented the first computer. He was a white man. At the age of 28, Konrad Zuse invented the world’s first mechanical binary computer, the Z1, in Berlin (1936-1938), and he did so in the kitchen of his parents’ home, much like the founders of Apple Computer many years later.

      • Charlie

        eddie47d,,,
        What book teaches more respect than any other book you know of???

      • Vigilant

        Eddie, when you say “Whites and blacks should all be respectful of each other for there is really no alternative within our widely differing society,” I agree with you. But I would take it a step further and say, “people should respect those deserving of respect, regardless of color.”

        Further, if I do not respect an individual who is black, I do not expect to be labeled a racist just because I have a reason to disrespect that person. I have reasons to disrespect a lot of people, black and white, especially in the world of politics. Call me an “equal opportunity” respecter and disrespecter.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        @ Peter M A lot of Good things came from Germany in the 1930s , Europe and the rest of the world would be a much better place If America would have stayed out of WW-2 , and the middle east would be a peaceful place .

  • JimH

    When Trent Lott was criticized for saying something nice about Strom Thurmond (who wasn’t attacked), because in the 50′s Strom was for segregation,(when Strom was a Dem before changing to Rep) did anyone see the irony that Trent appologized on B.E.T., the “Black” Entertainment Chanel?
    Chould you imagine the uproar if someone started W.E.T.? (White Entertainment Chanel)
    White History Month?
    The National “White” Caucus?
    The National Association for the Advancement of “White People?
    THe Untited White People College Fund?
    Just a thought.

    • ibcamn

      you are correct-my daughter and i walked into a McDonalds and while waiting to order,i saw a poster that read “black power”it was for black history month,i was a little set back but kept it to myself..in my life ive dated black woman,was even engadged to young lady till i met her family then it all fell apart because i made the comment of-”how come it is that black people are allowed to integrade into every culture and no one is to say anything or deny them access,but if a white person tries this he is stopped and or denied the same access into lets say a black nightclub or party?”her family went off on me with hellfire slures of my race! Her friends would constantly make comments of she was practicing with a white boy to work up to a real man,and when was she getting rid of the white trash and getting back to your own kind-meaning black!and black guys,knowing were together,would just walk right up to her and ask her if she wanted a real man or ask her out because she has just got to be tired of dating this white boy by now! this was a constant thing for our entire time together,it was uncomfortable to go out and enjoy the town,and no one in the bars dominated by white people made any comments like that!the most i got was”whats a good looking woman like that doing with you!”-you are saying what alot of people are afraid to say in fear of not being PC!!

      • Kate8

        It is natural for people to be attracted to those with whom they share commonality. Whites have been made to have guilt about this, yet other races are very vocal about their preferences in this area.

        I, for one, will never apologize for my race, nor any other aspect of myself.

        Wasn’t it MLK who said it was not about skin color, but about character?

        Who was it that has made it about skin color? THE GOVERNMENT.

      • eddie47d

        Not so fast Kate 8: The Declaration of Independence (a Government document) clearly states that All Men Are Created Equal” . Racism came from man and not necessarily from Government.

      • Kate8

        eddie – the words of our founding documents have little bearing on the system we have today.

        All men are equal in the sight of God. In other ways, men are decidedly unequal. Isn’t that obvious?

        People in your camp just like to be the ones to decide who are the most equal, depending on what victim issue you are promoting in the moment.

      • eddie47d

        First you attack government Then say it is irrelevant! Do you confuse yourself often?

      • Vigilant

        eddie, perhaps I’m splitting hairs, but the The Declaration of Independence is not a government document. It is a declaration on independence from Britain. The Articles of Confederation and the Constitution are government documents, or more appropriately, governing documents.

        While I grant that the principles of individual sovereignty and equality expressed in the Declaration are the basis for our republic, they are more rightly called “founding principles” than articles of governance.

        If all men and women were angels, we would need no government, and the Declaration would be sufficient.

  • Jane

    Give me a break. What planet do you live on? I live on earth and embrace every race and every culture and look forward to an America that truly is a melting pot. My 3 blond haired , blue eyed kids have all spouses not of European decent …. and my 4 grandchildren are the future. IMAGINE a world without discrimination.

    • godhelpus

      How can we stop discrimination when we have a president that keeps dividing this country. Why is it ok for every other race but the white folks to have parties to help them. Anything the white people do is called discrimination. Get over your selves, Stop using that work and the discrimination will stop, until we do it won’t. And don’t bother saying I am a racist because I have a black son-in law and 2 black grandkids.. This is the issue no the color of the skin.

      • Lilimay

        “White Racism” was a creation to divide America from its inception and to give the creation privilege over other people. President Obama by being Black has brought out the intense inculcated racism of “white” American racist. People of all so-called races have members of all hues and it is the lighter ones who have peopled the so-called white race. Race is an artificial designation since Darwin’s Origin Of Species that helped the ism to permeate all disciplines that are causing a world-wide problem.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “How can we stop discrimination when we have a president that keeps dividing this country.”

        Our President, Obama, has done nothing to divide this country. The citizen’s of this country are doing it all on their own.

      • Gman

        I’m sure that you did not marry into the black race, because you said so. It’s nice to know that you can put aside the B.S. for the happiness of your progeny.

    • Vigilant

      An unhealthy dynamic is created when you have ethnic/racial groups pitted against each other. The American ideal was always the melting pot model, at least until the sixties and seventies, as progressive influences began to rend asunder the Constitution.

      While it should be clear to all that it was European WASP ideals that influenced the Founders to create the most fair and equitable government in history, the so-called white population must today come to terms with the fact that they will not be the majority in a few decades.

      Teddy Kennedy turned immigration law on its head in the sixties by radically reducing European immigration quotas in favor of Third World and non-Christian émigrés. Combine that with a de facto support for illegal immigration and the attendant fertility rates they bring with them, and you have a formula that is changing the complexion of society.

      The excesses of political correctness, via such things as affirmative action, the bankrupt policies of wealth redistribution, demands for reparations for slave descendants, socialist professors in schools and universities, and a misguided liberalism that refuses to respect the rule of law, have fractured and fragmented a society that once was proud to proclaim itself American sans hyphenation.

      • rhcrest

        I sincerely hope that Ted Kennedy is burning in Hell for what he did to this country with immigration. I am 99% certain that he is.

      • Kate8

        rhcrest – I hope so, too. But it was LBJ who signed the bill.

        This was a result of the hijacking of the Left by communists, to be used for the purpose of destroying America, one issue at a time.

      • ChuckS

        My thought is that Mary Jo Kopecne is waterboarding Ted Kennedy.

      • Chester

        Sir, you might want to talk to the early Irish or Italian immigrants exactly what kind of reception THEY got. It seems that for a long time there were signs in a lot of businesses that came out and said, help wanted, no wops or Irish need apply. Things have changed a bit since those days, but it seems the one group that has been here almost as long as the WHITEs has been and is still being dumped upon. Oh, and you can also include the group of people who were here long before the white men came, as they, too, are still treated as somewhat less than first class citizens.

      • Kate8

        Chester – Everyone is being dumped upon, including whites. And it’s being done, not by the average Joe and Jo, but by those in power who are inciting through creating victim groups and pointing fingers.

        This is the real reason for FORCING integration. The PTB do not want people feeling comfortable in their homes. And it has elevated no one, but has brought many beautiful, thriving communities to being miserable, crumbling ghettos.

        The PTB work to keep us stressed and in fear… of them, of each other. They want us to feel isolated and wary. These racial issues are promoted (primarily by DEMOCRAT communists) in order to bring down America.

        The same thing is done all over the planet. Just look at what’s been done to Africa. Why, do you suppose? Could it be that now that the elite have decided to make Africa the new center of prosperity, they are ridding the land of the indigenous, just as they did in America?

        It is not WE THE PEOPLE who persecute each other, except that we have evil scoundrels who strive to create these issues and resentments for… guess what? It’s the Hegelian dialectic: Problem/reaction/solution.

        None of us alive now were here when blacks were enslaved. Isn’t it time we stop making people feel guilt and resentment for things which are long past? The truth is, WE ARE ALL NOW SLAVES.

        Does that make you feel better?

      • eddie47d

        That is only partially true about 60′s immigration. Whites from Europe were allowed in and in greater quota numbers before that. The only thing that changed was the quotas for minority countries were equalized with the “white countries”.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Prior to LBJs signing of the bill opening the door to the third world, we had requirements that people immigrating here come from compatible cultures, have sponsors, and have a means of caring for themselves.

        The move to bring in the third world, people with very divergent cultures often diametrically opposed to ours (to create a multicultural society) had only one real reason: to divide us and create more victim groups, to increase and stress the welfare state, and to further their interests in the decay of our nation. We would never be able to be united and strong if we are divided into separate and opposing groups.

        That so many of you continue to praise the idea of bringing in people who hate our country and sponge off the system is disgusting and unconsciounable.

        It’s time to wake up and smell the coffee. Our country is nowhere near the wonderful place it was before this, where everyone shared the same values and you knew where they stood. And, YOU COULD TRUST THEM. The most important thing anyone had in those days was his good name.

      • Gman

        As long as white people were running things everything was hunky-dory.

      • Kate8

        Gman – So, you are saying that OTWs are responsible for the trouble we’re in?

        I realize you are being sarcastic, but there is no reason why EVERYONE who wants to live here, adhere to the values and culture of our country, just like we have to when we travel abroad. If they want to live here, they should be required to assimilate, just as it always was before.

        The idea was to keep America strong and united so it could not be conquered. That is exactly what the PTB sought to destroy, and so they did.

        It should not have to be a racial issue, except that politicians make it into one.

    • Rosegarten

      Excellent post.

      • Lilimay

        Kate8, I see you have been doing some reading and have some understanding and make some excellent points. I am responding to the problem of “Forced Integration that elevated no one that brought beautiful thriving communities to miserable crumbling ghettos.” Integration had nothing to do with that, it was the absentee landlords who destroyed communities by renting to Blacks, whites, and others and did not keep up their property that was the fault of the renters for tolerating the abuse. The purpose of “Forced Integration” had to do with the decline of a classical education and excellence in education. We later see the colleges abandoning the traditional (1) and (2) parts of each course for remediation courses because the feeder schools failed to teach the basic reading, writing, and arithmetic skills necessary for further study. I would look upon “Integration” as the excuse for the decline in education as a means of elevating the student. Integration also saw the influx of teachers from the suburbs and the firing of the old teachers who lived in the communities. There was a new thrust of mediocrity or less.

      • Kate8

        Lilimay – I grew up in a small town in northern CA, and our town was targeted by integration.

        Our small, peaceful community became a near war-zone, with blacks imported from Alabama, many of them rather militant, knives in their hair, etc. We had to move because of the violence… teachers being stabbed, etc. The whole area became ghetto, and is to this day.

        Then there were communities, like in the northern Great Lakes areas, where beautiful communities with middle class housing were torn down to build “the projects”. We know what has happened in places like Detroit.

        Even today, in the beautiful, once small-town where I now live, the government has paid poor minorities and immigrants (largely Islamic) to move to places like here, and we are no longer the cohesive community we once were, and it is no longer the safe place it used to be. Crime has gone rampant, and avoid our neighbors.

        If people want to live in multicultural areas…fine. Let there be some. But I don’t believe things such as that should be forced on us. We should have the right to choose to live as we choose, among whom we choose, where we can be the most comfortable. Because, as water seeks its own level, as one group invades an area, others are driven out. And the invading groups have the advantage of goverenment financing for them to do it.

        I don’t care about skin color, but I do care about the quality of the people I live among. And I do appreciate being among people with shared values, where we are all playing by the same rules.

        There is no reason why whites should be held to a different standard from anyone else.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          What is the name of the town that you lived in in CA?

      • Kate8

        Why do you want to know?

        I prefer not to give too specific information about myself, for obvious reasons.

    • Caroline

      The only way to STOP discrimination is to stop having color-based segregationist groups and programs such as BET, NAACP, National Black Caucus, Black Panthers, United Negro College Fund, Affirmative Action, etc. There are plenty of disenfranchised people from other races (i.e. American Indians, Latinos, Asians, and European Americans). Why does everything have to be Black and White?

      • Lilimay

        Caroline, discrimination has not been caused by the resistance groups that you mention, but is the cause of the rise of these groups. You raised a good question: Why does everything have to be black and white.? For the answer, you must go to English and British history since you will not find it in U.S. History unless you are good at reading between the lines. A good place to start your research would be with Charles Darwin, then the Darwinians, and the book, Before and After Darwin. Have you read Darwin’s The Origin of Species? Check out the real title of the book on the inside title page and it will give you a good clue as to what is going on today on this planet. Happy researching for the answer to your important question!

      • Gman

        Because the “leavened” made it that way.

    • ibcamn

      wow-guess what?!this planet will never be the way you want it,every culture has its racist history.look at china or japan,most of them have family beliefs that you do not marry outside your race!they want the old traditions to live on,while their young adults dont want to be that way!the italians use to the same,the irish,etc…im not being racist,it just the old ways and the new ways butting heads rite now and it will be that way forever in every culture and race,you just have to live with it,and rspect it at the same time,just dont be racist about it!..

      • Caroline

        ibcamn, thinking like this is the problem. How many “pure-bloods” are there left in the world? You mention the Irish and Italians, well I’m both. Somewhere someone stopped thinking of the differences between the Irish and Italians and created me. We all want equality for our own group, how about equality for everyone?

      • Jimmy the Greek

        @ Caroline I am Greek 100% My father came to America in 1948 , My Mothers mother and father came in the late 1920s . And i was told that there are only two kind of people in the world Greeks and people that wish they were Greeks !

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Well jimmy you were told wrong. I am not Greek and I have NO desire to be Greek.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Jimmy the Greek,”

        I WISH I WAS GREEK – SO BAD!!!!! I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED WITH THE ANCIENT GREEKS. I HAVE STUDIED [AND, CONTINUE TO STUDY], Attic Greek.

        I WISH I COULD MOVE TO GREECE AND LEAVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I HATE THIS COUNTRY.

        • tesmith47

          his viewpoint is a-historical and contrary to the everyday visual facts,
          white men (and to some extent women) control all the power and all the money at this present time; proof: look at congress the military leadership the forbes 500, look at the movies, magazines tv and everything else. All the laws were written by white men historically, look at the history books.
          white people have 10 as much wealth as Black folks on average.
          I think the complaint that black folks are getting so much “free” stuff and so” powerfull ” from guys like him are simply not believable given the evidence widely available every day and every where in america.

    • Charlie

      Jane,,,
      Never happen,,,because of ,,, Matthew 15:24………………. Meanwhile…………….
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

  • MD

    A political landline to be sure. So much room for misinterpretation and abuse but I actually get the core premise. It’s akin to how much Liberals are anti-male. Any man who speaks up and says I have as much right to be as a woman gets labeled as misogynist and a male chauvinist.

  • MD

    landline = landmine

  • Lilimay

    This is all a lot of nonsense. “White People” by definition were given privilege by the powers that be and were always a minority and enjoyed the best of America. They were also pitted against all other people by their inculcated superiority complex! “White” RACISM needs to die for the survival of the human race!

    • MD

      Ah. You are no doubt, a Liberal woman. You could not have illustrated my points better. You do NOT have more of a right to be than a man or a white man. It is appropriate to have equal rights – but no more. That goes for EVERYONE.

    • Vigilant

      Lilimay says, “’White People’ by definition were given privilege by the powers that be…”

      The cultural and spiritual values of black people, Indians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists were not the values upon which we were established as a nation. Yes, the founding documents were written by dead white European males. Had they been written by any other group in the majority, you would have had a vastly different country.

      And, as imperfect as the Constitution was, it furnished the mechanism for its own amendment as societal values became more enlightened. That which ultimately came to foster the inclusiveness of all races/ethnic groups was the natural outgrowth of the Natural Law tenets of the Enlightenment.

      Then, she says, “’White’ RACISM needs to die for the survival of the human race!”

      As does black racism, Muslim and Hispanic ethnocentrism, anti-Semitism and a host of other “isms.”

      • Lilimay

        You are ignorant of what Racism is about in the first place. All other groups are a reaction to “white” racism only! “White” people are just trying to say that others are racists if they do not agree with the “white” cultural thrust.

      • Vigilant

        Well, Lilimay, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright would be proud of you. It appears I wasted intelligent words and airtight logic on someone who is programmed by our public so-called “education” system.

        It’s transparent to everyone here that the hatred is your foible, not mine.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Well vigilant I don’t know if your logic is “airtight” or not but it certainly is far superior to Lilymae’s lobic. Her logic has more holes in it than a 12 oz drink can that has taken three rounds of No. 6 shot from a 12 guage at 10 feet.

      • Caroline

        The founders of this country came to America to get away from government and religious oppression (and taxes) and founded a new country based on those values. Our own ancestors (those who are not necessary decended from those founders) also came to this country for the same reasons — the Italians, Irish, Jews, Orientals, etc. They came for freedom and equality for all. Our ancestors are now probably rolling over in their graves if they could see us now. We’ve traded the freedom for which they searched and fought for more government oppression, discrimination and segregation (yes, race-oriented groups and programs are the equivalent to segregation and discrimination). We need to get over the past — it’s dead and over — and live for the future. Stop blaming our past (i.e. slavery, segregation, etc.) and, as Obama loves to say, move “FORWARD.” We can’t move forward if we are all still living in and blaming the past!

      • DaveR

        Don’t forget the practical significance of tribalism. Just look at Africa if you seek recent evidence of it horrific effects.

      • Lilimay

        Vigilant, you are just ranting because you can. Please define the cultural and spiritual values of “white people” that were different from other peoples to be imulated. And what exactly is “white” culture? Your grasp of American history is remarkable!

      • Vigilant

        Lilimay says, “Vigilant, you are just ranting because you can.”

        Why, you’re 100% right, Dearie! Freedom of speech is held in my high esteem. And you?

        “Please define the cultural and spiritual values of “white people” that were different from other peoples to be imulated [sic]. “

        Well, well, if you’re so ignorant as to not know the EUROPEAN values of the Enlightenment, and the subsequent impact it had on our founding, then you need to go back to the history books. Jefferson eloquently expressed the Enlightenment’s view of Natural Law in the Declaration of Independence. It was NOT a view held by any culture except “white” European culture.

        Nothing like it existed in Asia, Africa or the Middle East. Once the radically new ideas of individual sovereignty were promulgated in America, it then became the model for all nations who wanted to pull themselves out of the mire of pre-civilization. We “imulated” no one, we created and fashioned a whole new concept from primarily European values.

        It was largely the Judeo-Christian values of our populace and leaders that made us, at one time, the envy of the world. The progressives, and racists like yourself, have over time obstructed that progress and sought to return us to something quite alien to the Founders.

        “Your grasp of American history is remarkable!” Thank you for recognizing that.

      • Kate8

        Bravo, Vigilant. Lilimae’s grasp of history and culture is typical of the garbage being taught these days, which has, obviously, served it’s purpose.

      • Frank Kahn

        to Lilimay:

        I can sense a very strong anti-white racism in you. And, I might add, a lack of intelligent reasoning ability. All other racism is a reaction to white racism? I suppose that we “white” people, somehow snuck into China and showed them how good our racism is so they could practice it on the Japanese.

        Actually, what many call racism is not really racism, it is more cultural-ism or nationalism. And, the pure vitriolic hatred fueled racism of blacks towards whites is not a reaction. Most of the black racism I encounter is based on ignorant beliefs in something that did not happen. Actually, if the blacks in America want to blame someone for our history of slavery, they should be really mad at the African blacks that sold their ancestors into slavery. I personally have no connection to black slavery in this country. I will not apologize for it or bow down to black hatred. I dont owe them anything. If a black person gets a job that I am more qualified for (affirmative action) that is racism. You spewing hate and lying about how it is all white racism is a very strong form of racism on your part. You are adding fuel to the racism fire by taking a “whites are the cause of racism” stance.

        I will respect anyone that acts like a normal reasonable person. I will not respect anyone that acts like they deserve special treatment because of their ancestry. I did not cause any harm to any member of any group of humans on this planet, so dont blame me if you were mistreated by someone.

        Actually the black vs white concept is a little funny if you talk with people from other countries. I have several Asian friends that call American men “white men”. They know about our racial diversity but they still call us all white. They even have a semi-racial bias within their own country. They have light and dark Asians, and the “white” Asians think they are better than the “black” Asians. And when you get right down to it none of them are white or black. So would you call that “white” racism?

        In this country, there are many southerners that think they are superior to northerners (yanks). Is that a form of racism? No, it is a form of culturalism, they think their southern culture is better than northerners.

        Racism will never stop until it is not an issue. And yes, the NAACP, BLACK PANTHERS and many other ANTI-RACISM organizations perpetuate the racism in this country. Every time they claim that some innocent situation is racially motivated it makes the members of both sides resentful and hateful of the others.

        • hilary

          However, somebody has to step up and stop it and a criticcal mass is a helpful tool to make others listen

          • Frank Kahn

            You are assuming there is something to stop and that it needs stopping.

    • Cleve Moten

      I agree completely. It perpetuates an archaic and empty notion that consumes valuable time and resources in a futile effort to protect and defend it where there is no logical justification or defense for its continued existence.

    • Howard C

      Are you kidding me?? I am a 32 year old White man. I was born in 1980; long after segregation had been ended. I didn’t know the meaning of the ‘N’ word until I was in elementary school and a black kid on the bus told the bus driver (who happened to also be black) that I called him that word. I was guilty it didn’t matter that I didn’t do it. They were gonna kick me off the bus until my mom went to the school and raised hell. My parents never used that word so I had no reason to know what it meant. I don’t have to appologize for being white nor will I and I don’t like being blamed for crap that happened before I was even born. I am proud to be white and I wouldn’t want to be anything other than white. Does that make me RACIST??? Black Racism is just as bad as White or any other racism. If you want me to appologize for being white then… Go [expletive deleted] Yourself!!

      • Elda

        I also grew up not knowing I was white because it didn’t make any difference what color anyones skin was we were all the same. It wasn’t until I started working and was called names and frigntened by how I was treated. I decided it must be how many blacks were treated as children and causes the way many seem to hate whites. I still don’t care, but I do dislike attitudes that keep the rift between all cultures and races. If we could ALL follow the US Constitution as it was written, EVERYONE would be better off and there would not be all this hate.

    • Mike Austin

      Lilimay, you are not ignorant regarding racism, you are practicing it now. Is slavery the root of your racism claims against white people? What about the current slavery in Africa. It has nothing to do with Whites. There was slavery amongst American Indians long before the Whites arrived. The same on every continent. You are pitifully trying to argue that which you have no understanding.

      • Elda

        There is far more slavery now than there was back in the days before the birth of this nation and up until we abolished it in this country. It is part of human nature and even in Muslim countries the work they use for people of black skin is slave no matter if they are slaves or not. But if slavery is really the issue it should be said, it was blacks that sold other blacks into slavery so lets just drop the entire slavery thing now. It is over in the western world.

      • eddie47d

        Open and underground slavery is alive and well in all countries. Its now simply called human trafficking and very active in the USA. (mostly sexual slavery in US)

      • JimH

        Hi edddie, There is human trafficing in the U.S., that is true.
        It is also very illegal.(unlike pre-civil war slavery) It isn’t condoned by any law abiding American.
        There are also people that violate other laws, and hopefully they will all be caught and brought to justice.

    • Charlie

      Lilimay,,,
      Who are the people King Jesus Christ spoke of at Matthew 15:24???

      • Frank Kahn

        THE JEWS, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHITE AGAINST BLACK SLAVERY.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      @ Limimay ” WE MUST SECURE THE EXISTENCE OF OUR PEOPLE AND A FUTURE FOR WHITE CHILDERN ” 14 words David Lane ” BECAUSE THE BEAUTY OF THE WHITE ARYAN WOMAN MUST NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH ” David Lane The Order

      • http://aaron.com Aaron

        I agree your comment.
        White people are in danger everywhere in the world.
        I’ts a fault do think equality when different races live in a same country.
        My south-african friends understood very well the racial problem.
        Same rights with separated developpment.

  • Cleve Moten

    Any comment or position that advocates within this country solely for “European Americans” is racist! Those who cannot see that are obviously blind to the legitimate aspirations of minorities in this country. The University of California has been rightly castigated for his racist statements in favor of “Europeal Americans.” One must obviously assume that he has carved out of the melting pot of Americans a group which necessarily includes himself! No one advocates that minorities should have rights exclusive to themselves, although this is obviously the blindness of the California professor and those who support his views. We obviously cannot go back in time and give every American an equal opportunity to succeed and exel in this country. But in all fairness, some effort should be made to level the playing field of the game already in progress as we enter the picture in this the 21st Century. But to off any recommendation that favors “European Americans” exclusively is not only un-American, it is racist!!! What greater right does a mythical Arian race have that shelters them from equality? If every racial or ethnic group claimed for itself exclusivity, we would not only be perpetually embroiled in a war between nations but perpetually embroiled in civil strife at home! Legitimate efforts of minorities to have an equal opportunity should be embraced, because today’s majority might be tomorrow’s minority. And if whites insist on imposing their presumed inherent superiority over minotities, they can expect equal treatment in the future when they themselves become a minority. The greatest hope that all Americans have for an equal opportunity is to ensure that right for all Americans now and in the future. That way, each of us ensures it for ourselves and our children and all Americans now and forever!

    • rhcrest

      Any comment or position that advocates within this country solely for “non -European Americans” is racist!

      • Elda

        I wonder why it is so hard for non Europeans to understand this? Why can’t it be seen by everyone that it is about ALL being treated and have access the same as everyone else? We have laws that state everything is supposed to be equal but if it is they get all upset. We have had to lower the standards so low in this country that everything from education to safety had suffered and we still have not solved the problem because the standards still fall. Where does it all end? But the real question is do you want what is coming? It will not be pretty. We have to get away from decissions based on feelings and get back to making decissions based on fact.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “Any comment or position that advocates within this country solely for “non -European Americans” is racist!”

        It’s also racist to advocate that this country be for anyone but European/American’s.

    • Vigilant

      Cleve says, “Any comment or position that advocates within this country solely for “European Americans” is racist! Those who cannot see that are obviously blind to the legitimate aspirations of minorities in this country.”

      Best to get off the floor, Cleve. That kneejerk reaction was so violent it must have taken you right off the chair.

      Examine the following statement, borrowed with revision from your words: any comment or position that advocates within this country solely for “African Americans” is racist.

      Now there’s only one difference between those two statements: one includes a majority group and one includes a minority group within the quotation marks.

      Advocation, to use your term, is neither illegal nor undesirable when employed in the furtherance of rights encoded in law. Advocation also encompasses a sponsorship of pride in any group, be it racial, ethnic, religious, fraternal or otherwise.

      Professor MacDonald, in “arguing that white people should have the same ability to pursue their interests as minorities” is not making a racist statement by any stretch of the imagination. “Same ability” was the term used, not “unfair advantage,” and you should learn the difference between the two.

      You say “Those who cannot see that are obviously blind to the legitimate aspirations of minorities in this country.”

      Once again, choose your words carefully. I hardly think that anyone is challenging the “legitimate” aspirations of any group. With The 13 and 14th Amendments, Brown vs. Board of Education, civil rights legislation, Voting Rights Acts and a plethora of laws to guarantee freedoms to the minorities, one could assert that the “legitimate” aspirations of all groups have been roundly satisfied.

      Affirmative action quotas, establishment of lower standards of academic excellence for minority groups, inequitable enforcement of voter rights laws (NBP harassment at the polls and ACORN shenanigans), lowering of mortgage qualification requirements solely to put minorities into homes, and other activities which give an inordinate advantage to minorities, goes well beyond “legitimate aspirations.”

      Reparations to the descendants of slaves? If we do that, we may as well compensate the descendants of slaveholders for loss of property.

      • Kate8

        Good post, Vigilant.

        We need to get real here and realize that the majority of taxpayers (who would be the ones forking over for these “reparations”) come from a line of immigrants who came here well AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, and had no part in the perceived injustices toward people held in slavery.

        Those who advocate for said reparations are just finding new ways of increasing entitlements (not) for those who do nothing to earn them. Nor would they even know how to make good use of them. We have too many people already who are convinced that they deserve a share of someone else’s pie, simply by their existence, and are willing to be militant to get it.

        We have so many “victim” groups… all vying for a share of th largesse… No wonder we are in such a mess in every way. Laying all of the blame for everyone else’s troubles at the feet of all white people creates yet another, albeit unacknowledged victim group: whites, who are being preyed upon by angry “victims” more every day, and is encouraged by a certain party in the WH.

        We need to go after the real perps: POLITICIANS and those who control them.

    • Frank Kahn

      One word would suffice. WRONG. He is not advocating preferential treatment of whites, just the leveling of the playing field. I am very tired of minorities getting special treatment that THEY DO NOT DESERVE.

  • Jamie Cameron

    I do believe it was a group of White Guys that United and Fought to Become the Country Of United states of America. Taking it over in the first place. now the tables have shifted, what was stolen from all Native Indians is now Being stolen again.

    • Elda

      There were black people fighting too Jamie. The entire history of the world is a chain of conquest over weaker people time and again. Anyone that denys this simple truth is simple minded because it is and always will be survival of the strongest. United we stand and divided we will fall. We ALL will get what ever we fight for.

  • Bill

    We need affirmative action for white people. If you do not agree, then you are a racist.

    I was a victim of affimative action back in 70′s. It actually did me a favor. Because there were no jobs available to white people, I became self employed and I have no regrets

    • Cleve Moten

      Whites who complain about “affirmative action” are simply looking for an excuse to shirk their own responsibility for having had a four hundred-year head start and doing nothing with it. The same could be said for a member of a minority group who had “white” advantages for four hundred years and did nothing with it. But to ignore the obvious oppression, deprivation and all the socio-economic disadvantages that have been heaped on many minorities, especially black minorities, is to further underscore their own lack of effort while afforded all the advantages of members of a racial group that deprived those same minorities of the advantages they reserved for themselves.

      • Howard C

        Man… you are the racist!! 400 year head start??? Were any of us alive 400 years ago? Do I have to pay for crimes that were commited before I was born?? You use your race as a crutch to get special treatment. You don’t want equal opportunity you want special treatment. Affirmative action is racism.

      • Mike W.

        Cleves, whites have always discriminated against other whites! You obviously don’t know your history.
        Ever see the old photos depicting the sign “Irish need not apply”? How about the way Italians and other Eastern Mediterraneans were treated when they arrived circa 1900? Answer, like dirt! How about the Slavic people ie Pols, Ukrainians, Serbs etc. being relegated to the sweat shops, mines and foundries and paid slave wages. No pun intended if you know the etymology of that word. What about the hundreds of thousands of immigrants of Celtic ancestory who were forced to fight in the Civil War with many dying?
        Don’t give me this nonsense about white privilege. For the most part, it is a myth and lie.
        Look at all the white soldiers sent to Vietnam who didn’t have the connections to get out of the draft or money and/or apptitude to go to college. I could go on. However, I hope I’ve made a point. Keep in mind, everyone discriminates, especially when you pick one brand over another!

        • Lilimay

          Mike, I am seeing that the mis-education of the masses with “separate but equal,” and “integration,” has born fruit and that most are unable to reason correctly or understand correct word meanings because of the watering-down of education in America and Affirmative Action had nothing to do with it. Some words need to be properly defined not just what someone wants to believe, for whatever reason. As far as “white” people discriminating against other whites is concerned, you must read the literature written in other countries over the centuries to find out who the people really were that you say were discriminated against though they were “white”. I feel that since we are not starting from the same academic standpoint that it is futile to continue to engage in this discourse. Fortunately, I have been around 25 years more than four score and ten and have seen the changes in education, etc.

      • Howard C

        It isn’t about black or white anyway. It is about the haves and the have nots. Rich white people don’t give poor white people special interests just because they are white. Rich people look down on anyone who is not rich like them, especially if they were born into money. ‘The Man’ as some put it isn’t just holding black people down THEY are holding everyone down who they don’t consider in their class. The Elites are what our problem is and those that have severed their conscience to try and achieve that status.

      • Bill

        BS

      • Vigilant

        Lilimay says, “Fortunately, I have been around 25 years more than four score and ten and have seen the changes in education, etc.”

        Four score and ten is 90, and you’ve been around “25 years more?”

        Sorry, Dearie, I really don’t believe you are 115 years old.

      • Frank Kahn

        Had to read your post 5 times before I could figure out that grammatical nightmare.

        Affirmative action is a racially biased attempt to give special treatment to minorities (mainly blacks) that they have done nothing to deserve. I have not wasted any opportunities, nor did I contribute to any socioeconomic problems for them.

        Affirmative action does nothing for blacks, it makes things worse for everyone. If you are not qualified for a job or to attend a college, you dont deserve it and wont perform satisfactorily. This both brings down your self esteem and ruins the profitability of the company you work for. In education it just sets you up to fail. And it promotes two terrible things, racism and entitlement obsession.

        To say, I deserve this job because I am BLACK, is just as bad as saying you deserve it because you are WHITE.

        Also, the law does not specify that it is only pertaining to someone that has suffered some form of cultural discrimination causing them to be less qualified. You can be the son of a rich family that had the best educational opportunities and affirmative action will still give you preferential treatment in getting a job because of your race.

        I am a Star Trek fan, but affirmative action upset me in that show. The original Vulcans were white, but, on the spin-offs the Vulcans were black. Apparently, most Vulcan men preferred black humans as mates.

    • Lilimay

      By definition, racism can only apply to the “white” creation and inculcated with their superiority complex. You certainly did the right thing by creating your own living rather than relying on the job creation for “whites.” Your jobs were sent abroad for lower paying wages to foreigners. It was not Black Americans who inherited your jobs. Wage slavery will never end until the mindset changes.

      • rhcrest

        Sorry negative. Racism applies to anyone who advocates special rights or privileges to people of a certain race or to people who vote for a POTUS just because he is half black.

      • DaveR

        Have you any understanding of the principles of capitalism or how they better mesh with human nature than other economic systems, or that you are also practicing such principles as you argue your own case? In a free economy, businesses exist to make profits for their owners, and when profits cease, so will those businesses. And in seeking those profits, businesses will always try to lower their costs, and that often involves seeking lower labor costs in foreign countries. There are examples of USA businesses sending work to China and Chinese business managers in turn sending that work to be performed in Mexico or some Asian country.

      • Mike W.

        Personally, Lilimay I have no idea of what you’re are trying to say. I comprehend it as just pure nonsense. In essence, I think you’re trying to make yourself look educated when you’re not. As far as my education, I spent twelve years in a Catholic school run by French nuns and that was in the 1950′s and 60′s. That should give you some clues as to my age, knowledge, and even philosophical and ontological ideaology. Also, I spent four years at a very good private university studying a variety of traditional academic subjects.
        I even took the advice of one nun I had who said the learning is a lifelong pursuit regardless of one’s station in life. I’ve learned far more by erudition and personal experience than I ever did in the classroom. You could call me epistemic! I agree that we’re not on the same wavelength, however, cite some of that literature from other countries you have mentioned in your post. Merci!

      • Vigilant

        Mike W., I would accuse no one of being educated who says, “By definition, racism can only apply to the “white” creation and inculcated with their superiority complex.”

        Talk about ignorance! Lilimay makes Nancy Pelosi look smart.

      • Frank Kahn

        When you are wrong you are wrong, and you are not 115 years old.

        Definition of RACISM
        1
        : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
        2
        : racial prejudice or discrimination

        Got that from Merriam-Webster dictionary.

        Now, it is your impossible task to explain how racism is, BY DEFINITION “white”.

        I have read this definition 10 times and have failed to see the word WHITE in it.

        I get the impression from the DEFINITION that any race can hold racist thoughts.

        On the subject of job loss, No, the mass exodus of jobs from this country cannot be attributed to affirmative action. However, that is not the issue, affirmative action has caused many people who were best qualified for a position to lose out because there was a minority applicant for the same position. And, in college admission ranking, race or ethnic background is used as a booster of qualification points. This causes some students with higher academic achievement to be denied in favor of minority students. This is a feature of affirmative action.

        And your spewing nonsense about the modern education system is not properly reasoned. I agree that the current educational system is dumbed down by the stupid no child left behind policies. That fact does not eliminate a persons ability to develop individual critical reasoning ability. Nor, does it cause reasoning people to dislike something that is obviously wrong.

        I am not sure of your true age since 4 score and 10 + 25 must be a typo. I dont think you had a better education than I did, I attended school before it was dumbed down almost a half century ago. So I dont see what you are claiming in the area of your superior education to ours.

  • Cleve Moten

    Correction: “The University of California professor…” (inadvertent omission of “professor.” in comment above).

  • Patriotpete

    When the KKK was established it was a organization trying to protect the white traditions of the south. Unfortunatley it got away from the founder as it turned into what history tells us, that being said, he, I believe, is right . I expect to get e-mail about writng this, I don’t hate anyone but I too see what is happening to white americans and we do have to help ourselves. The majority of people think that every day life is made for the white people and that we do not need protection. However if a minority commits a crime against white person they are not subject to a “hate crime” but a white person who commits a crime will be charged with the crime that they commited AND a “hate crime”. Is this right? I don’t think so.

  • TeaParty Patriot (TPP)

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-stopped-in-electoral-college/

    How Obama can be stopped in Electoral College

    Just like the “rats did in Wisconsin and the “rats did in Texas when they left the state to deny the RINOs a state quorum. DENY the electoral college a quorum by refusing to show up at the college . . . Read more

    Exclusive: Judson Phillips offers constitutional means to put Romney in office Jan. 21
    Published: 16 hours ago

    by Judson PhillipsEmail | Archive
    Judson Phillips is the founder of Tea Party Nation. Follow him on Twitter at @judsonphillips or @teapartynation.

    We have one last, final chance to save America. We have one last, final chance to stop Barack Obama. One final chance.
    What is this final chance? Will the Republicans step up to the plate and do what is necessary?

    Barack Obama has not yet been re-elected president.
    Yes, the election is over – but remember, a presidential election in America is not by popular vote. We vote for the candidate, but what we are really doing is voting for the electors who will meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December.
    That is when the actual re-election of the president occurs.
    Is there a way to stop this?
    Yes, there is.
    And the best part – this is totally constitutional.
    The 12th Amendment of the Constitution as well as Article II of the Constitution govern the Electoral College.
    According to the 12th Amendment, for the Electoral College to be able to select the president, it must have a quorum of two-thirds of the states voting. If enough states refuse to participate, the Electoral College will not have a quorum. If the Electoral College does not have a quorum or otherwise cannot vote or decide, then the responsibility for selecting the president and vice president devolves to the Congress.
    The House of Representatives selects the president and the Senate selects the vice president.
    Since the Republicans hold a majority in the House, presumably they would vote for Mitt Romney, and the Democrats in the Senate would vote for Joe Biden for vice president.
    Can this work?
    Sure it can.
    Democrats have actually set this precedent of refusing to participate to deny Republicans a quorum. They did this in Wisconsin and in Texas. Why can’t we do this with the Electoral College?
    Mitt Romney was a terrible candidate, and he will not be a great president. But he will be infinitely better than Barack Obama.
    So how do we do this?
    Mitt Romney carried 24 states. We need to have conservative activists from all over the nation contact the electors, the Republican Party and the secretary of state in all of these states and tell them not to participate in the Electoral College when it meets on Dec. 17.
    If we can get 17 of those states (just over one-third) to refuse to participate, the Electoral College will have no quorum. Then, as the Constitution directs, the election goes to the House of Representatives.
    That is how we can still pull this election out and make Mitt Romney president in January.
    We need this concept shared with every tea party, liberty and patriotic group throughout the country. We have time to act, but we must pressure Republicans to do the right thing.
    It does not matter who gets credit for this. The credit is not important. Using our last chance to defeat Barack Obama is important.
    Far too often the Republican Party seems more interested in losing gracefully than winning and governing.
    This is our last chance. We the people must contact the electors, party officials and secretaries of state from every red state and insist that they refuse to participate in the Electoral College.
    We can still save America and use the Constitution to do it. But this truly is our last chance.

    • Jim

      TeaParty Patriot (TPP) – I believe that you are on to something here. The problem is that these Electors have most likely already been contacted and bought off (or threatened), no different than how Obamacare was vote in in the first place. No my friend, we are headed toward a one world government with a one world currency which includes persecution any who stand in it’s way. This was foretold long ago and it will happen to fulfill something much bigger than the drivel over racism. If you want to look at a shining example of what happens when everything is taken away from those who know how to do what needs to be done, and given to those who don’t have a clue, just look at South Africa. Why is it that we don’t hear about how wonderful things are working in that economically redistributed Country? It’s because it is worse than it has ever been. Even the poor are poorer!!! No, my friends we are in a hand-basket, and it is getting warmer every day.

    • http://att.net John Kurle

      I read that the economic collapse is imminent. It is too late. I also read many Americans leave for South America.

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone: I have to say here, STOP IT!!!! Enough of this nonsense. We have to work together as a team to solve this nation’s problems. If we continue with this White supremacy rhetoric or this Black Militant lunacy, Hispanic separatism etc. This great country will perish!! Another thing, the reason why the GOP along with conservatives are doomed is because of these reactionary thoughts. Thanks!!

    • DaveR

      You have succinctly described much of the basis and plan that Obama is using to implement his personal agenda to weaken and destroy USA! Divide and conquer by pitting groups of people against one another. Overload the system [Saul Alinsky, and Cloward and Piven]. D’Souza’s books provide an explanation of Obama’s motivation and background / training to better prepare himself for the task. At its roots, USA’s key problem is a moral one, not a political or economic or fiscal one. Obama is exploiting that fact, too, decreasing morality and increasing lawlessness.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “You have succinctly described much of the basis and plan that Obama is using to implement his personal agenda to weaken and destroy USA! Divide and conquer by pitting groups of people against one another. ”

        This kind of thinking is insane, and nothing less than insane.

        Obama has done no such thing. We, the citizens, are the ones that are hellbent on dividing this country, not our President.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        I strongly agree with tigeer on this.when he says: “This kind of thinking is insane, and nothing less than insane. Obama has done no such thing. We, the citizens, are the ones that are hellbent on dividing this country, not our President”

        I would expand on it a bit, however. It is not ALL the citizens who seek to divide. It is the ones Like Senator McConnell and all those on the right who said even before he took office that their “only goal for the next four years was to keep Obama from getting re-elected”.

        They are the ones who divide this country, and yes, they do it out of racism, but even more out of greed. The plutocracy doesn’t care if it destroys the country as long as it can continue to bleed the 99% while it pursues increasingly obscene quantities of wealth. The right has used the issues of abortion, LGBT rights, and immigration to stir up their so-called “base” and promote conflict in the nation—-pure and simple fact,

        PS I am an “old white man” who contributed triple $$$ to the McCain campaign but will likely not vote for a Republican above the local level in whatever years remain to me.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Tony,”

      SIR, WOULD YOU RATHER SOMEONE CALLED YOU A NAME “BEHIND YOUR BACK,” OR, CALLED YOU A NAME “TO YOUR FACE?”

      THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION.

      PEOPLE WHO “SQUIRM” WHEN DIFFERENT RACES OF PEOPLE DISCUSS THEIR UNCENSORED FEELINGS ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.

      Karl Rove JUST LOST A “WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY” BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO GET ELECTED A POLITICIAN WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR SUCH A DISCUSSION. Governor Mitt Romney WAS “BOOED” BY NAACP BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO TALK TO NEGROES.

      THE TIME HAS PAST FOR, “NICE-AND-FUZZY;” IT IS TIME “TO GET REAL” AND LET FOLKS KNOW “WHAT IS UP!”

  • Stuart Shepherd

    The “problem” for the white race is not as much the other races, but white females!! They all hate men or are lesbians, don’t want to marry us and have our kids, and actively seek and vote for special privileges for themselves and, either consciously or subconciously, oppose men socio-politically in every way imaginable, including immigration policy. So, us white men can whine and complain all we want (rightfully or unrightfully) but our race is pretty much toast, and that will eventually be world wide!

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Mr. Shepherd: For the love of God man, this is the reason why conservatives are going down because of such foolhardy views. We have to honor and respect the rights of women as everyone else. BTW, women are the majority of this nation. If they aren’t recognize, our system is going to be “toast”. Now knock it off. Happy Thanksgiving everybody!!

    • Kate8

      Stuart – What you say may ring true for liberal women, but certainly not conservative women. In fact, they have the same issues with finding men who are not girly, gay, lazy and/or immoral.

      I know. I have two daughters who don’t even know what a good man looks like. There don’t appear to be too many young conservative men around, either.

      Of course, I live in CA.

  • Oneguess

    Leonid Breznev once said that the real question was not whether communism or capitalism would triumph, but, rather, would the white race survive. Hmmm…

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      ” Hmmm…”

      This is one of the most inane postings that I have come across. And the people who use this don’t seem able to use logical reasoning. I suppose that this is intended to make people think things that are not logical. It doesn’t work.

  • gunner689AI

    in our Brave New World pc trumps the truth and reality everytime. Right is wrong and wrong is right; it’s trully the world turned upside down. BO has set race relations in the US back 60 yrs. PC is BS.

    • Lilimay

      Our president has done nothing to divide the country, it is the general public coming out of the closet that is expressing its racist views because a Black man is in the White House–confirmation that Black is not respected. Even racism dominates the house that he lives in. Some have said that the “White House” is for whites only and that is the reason it is called by that name..

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “Our president has done nothing to divide the country, it is the general public coming out of the closet that is expressing its racist views because a Black man is in the White House–confirmation that Black is not respected.”

        Exactly.

      • Kate8

        tlgeer – It is you liberals who continually play the race card.

        We couldn’t stand Clinton/Clinton, Gore, Kerry, or any other liberal. We couldn’t stand Bush, either, for that matter. Obama is no different, except that he’s black. So now we’re supposed to agree with him?

        Get a life. And give it up. This cr*p isn’t working anymore.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “We couldn’t stand Clinton/Clinton, Gore, Kerry, or any other liberal. We couldn’t stand Bush, either, for that matter. Obama is no different, except that he’s black. So now we’re supposed to agree with him?”

          No, of course not. But there is no reason to vilify him, either. As I stated, it’s not Obama who is dividing this country it is the citizens themselves.

          In what way did my statement have anything to do with yours?

      • Kate8

        tlgeer – So, why should we not villify him in the same way that every president has been villified by the opposing party? Because he’s black, and deserves special treatment?

        Clinton was loved by the Left and villified by the Right. Bush was mercilessly maligned by your camp. And, in the opinion of a whole lot of folks, Obama has done more to wreck America than any of his predecessors.

        Sorry, but there is no way I will ever accept the policies, endless EOs and fundamental changes of our country that this man is bringing about. That includes everyone he’s placed in his administration and anywhere else, too. It has nothing to do with his ethnicity. It has everything to do with his corrupt politics and the way he is destroying us.

        You democrats thought a black man would benefit you because he would be held above reproach, for fear of accusations of racism. And you’ve followed through on that lie.

        Well, we aren’t goint to be beaten with that stick anymore. His puppet masters are white, and I hold them in even more contempt than I do him. They all need to be brough down, and there is no time to lose.

        Freedom is not about color. How you democrats allow yourselves to be used so shamelessly in this way is a sad commentary on just how low people can go when they hold their own self-interests above the good of the nation.

      • gunner689AI

        Oh, is he black ? I thought he was a half-breed. It’s not about color dummy; it’s about his motivations towards the future of America and his incompetency as a leader. I know that it’s PC for him and his followers to hide behind their race but PC is BS. The truth is the truth.

      • Frank Kahn

        More racist ranting, Lilimay? What makes you hate white people so much? What is it that makes ignorant people like you claim that our dislike for Obama’s insane policies is racially motivated?

        And, dont let tlgeer boost your confidence, she is incapable of seeing the truth when it is pushed right into her lap.

        Name 1 thing Obama has done that is good for the entire nation and I will show you why it is not as well as give you 10 examples of bad things he has done, without using race in my reply unless you bring it up.

  • John doe

    WOW. should I or any other be shamed that I am a white male?? Or any other for that matter?? To read these comments really makes me wonder where we are in this world.. after traveling all over this planet and seeing what all races do to each other makes me wonder where the hell a lot of you live.. obviously, with your head under a rock listening to professors or reading some BS that I know not where you got it.. Let’s face a few facts..

    Let’s take whites.. uban types hate on rural folks due to their redneck status… no mattter if they are or not to urban types they are…

    Latinos, Mexicans and Puerto Ricans don’t do well together nor do Cubans… we shall not speak of Argentinians or Spaniards……

    Africa is a mess and I know you will blame whites but watch as blacks take advantage of blacks there… no matter what you try to do and God knows we tried..

    Let’s talk about the Middle East- they all hate Isreal but that is okay? Really,?? yet it is ok to teach hatred from the moment of birth there?? and it is taught.. been there seen that…

    So no matter what we do there will always be issues, however, leaders should attempt to quell it and cause better behavior… However, what we see now is not that but merely divisiveness, thankfully I have been taught better by my fellow man.. I think to my first experience of integration .. Spooning with a hispanic kid and a black kid cause we were cold… yes.. spooning …. and I didn’t care who they were only that they were warm… yet.. today I have to listen to folks who have NO clue..

    When we start acting like people we will be fine.. to say you got in a fight with a kid in High school so you went out when you saw him when you were 40 and beat him up would be looked at as crazy.. so for someone to espouse that they hate whites for what they did to someone over 100 years ago is not only stupid but one must ask themself am I a racist…?? I hear this hate talk all the time but really, I see far more racism from people of color than from whites… it is crazy but I feel I am quite open.. and I think if you asked my friends of color they would be closer to my thoughts than some of the nut cases on here.. back to the only thing that made sense.. WOW…

  • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

    “BO has set race relations in the US back 60 yrs. PC is BS.”

    Our President is not the one who has done this. The citizens of this country are the ones doing it – entirely.

    • Kate8

      tl – You are just plain full of it.

      In case you haven’t noticed (which you apparently haven’t), the people haven’t had a voice in anything for quite some time.

      Except for the demands of the “entitled”, both legal and illegal, to whom the Left panders shamelessly in order to buy their votes.

      BTW, do you consider we Gentiles goyim?

      Just curious.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        If one is not a jew then they be Goyim and the Goyim do not have a sole !

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        lololol Where did you get the idea that I am Jewish?

      • Kate8

        tlgeer – Because we’ve engaged in previous discussion, where you said you were.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          Kate, you might need to go back and actually read the conversations that we have had, or been in. I have not, ever, said that I was Jewish. I said that I had a lot of friends who were Jewish, not that I was. I also have friends that are Muslim, friends that are Buddhist, as well as friends that are of other beliefs. None of them, btw, are trying to destroy our country. They are here because they like our country or they were born here.

  • Bimbam

    The racist are attacking are attacking this guy for being one of them – in reverse!

    Can you imagine if you substituted “negro”, non-white mulatto for the word “white” in the article and no liberals, negro, non-white mulatto would have a problem with that.

    Yes’ it’s all about race. The negroid race! Negro worship as I call it. Started in Hollywood in the 60′s to portray negroes a certain way.

    Took them about 40 years to complete the brainwashing, But still a lot didn’t fall for it. So they just stuck the negro in anyway – as president.

  • tesmith47

    it is very weird to read some “white” folks complain about the alleged preferred treatment that Black folks get , while the white corporations and ceos get much more of the public money.
    And the folks that complain about EEo, and “quotas” are the beneficiary s of 400 years of white quotas . even if you did not personally discriminate your white skin gets you the benefits of this economy which got its start with black slave labor.
    here is a example, every few years a university =does a test; two people given identical credit historys , education, salary etc. one is black one is white they go to a car dealer to buy a car, the white invariably gets the better deal the white did not ask for a better deal the white salesman automatically confers this benefit on a fellow white skin.
    knowing this has benefited me, I always let my white wife go to the car dealer first and get the deal in writing. Just like back in the day when Blacks wanted to buy a Cadillac.

  • hilary

    Has he thought of getting help for his paranoia? And wasn’t North America inhabited by indigenous peoples before the European colonisers arrived? So whose country is it anyway?

    • Joe

      Ice Age Columbus: Who were the first Americans?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maziRFPYU14

      Nice attempt to slander. How is his wanting to advocate for White interests paranoia? Others can do it now but Whites can’t? Hypocrite.

      How do you know the Asians (ancestors of the Indians) who came here didn’t displace and genocide others? We know they slaughtered and enslaved other rival Indian tribes.

      • hilary

        To answer b ) Not the issue here, and two wrongs don’t make a right..
        And to answer a) i would advise help for anyone who had his attitude regardless of race.

        None of us is any more worthy than any other. If you hang your worth on your colour, class, creed , income job position ………. you have a problem, houston.

  • gunner689AI

    It’s good to know that there is at least one professor out there whose not a damn brianwashing socialist.

  • Joe

    hilary:

    Like I said, hypocrite(s). The justifications used against Whites being able to advocate for their own self-interests as a group are always the same. Bringing up the past. Period. So it is the issue.

    What’s not the issue is your statement of “two wrongs don’t make a right”. Both are ok. All should be able to advocate for their race and/or ethnicity. It’s only when Whites do it that it’s portrayed as a negative. That has been the reality and the supposed ‘consensus’ for 40+ years. Double-standard and hypocrisy based on distortion, omission, deception and lies.

    What’s his attitude (regardless of race), that you believe he needs help with?

    • hilary

      His ego-centricity – no one is an island, complete unto oneself.

      • Joe

        Sounds like you need some help with reading comprehension and critical thinking. The last thing he could be accused of is ‘ego-centricity’.

  • Patriot38

    Well, after reading a good many of these comments, all I am going to say as a Caucasian member in some kind of standing with the human race, is that I see no reason at all why there shouldn’t be a Caucasian Caucus in the Congress to off-set the imbalance of the caucuses of all the other racial subcategories of the human race there. Makes me ponder the idea that maybe I should have been born a member of the canine persuasion so all you humans would feed me and pick up after me! Oh well, such is life, we have no choice as to what we are born as, so I guess maybe we should just learn to live with what we are, tolerate the rest, and enjoy life as we know it. After all, life’s a bitch (and I would likely be able to enjoy that), and then we die. Basically, that’s the only certainty we have, so life would be a lot simpler. Have a good day!

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Nicely said, Patriot

      May I suggest to you that the Congress has been pretty much a “Caucasian Caucus” (and male at that) from it’s very beginnings? In the early days there were no women, no Native Americans, no Asian Americans, no Hispanics—just white men. And there is hardly any “imbalance” today, since all those groups are still WAY outnumbered by (old) white men.

      • http://aaron.com Aaron

        Fortunately !!!

  • Alamoses

    Go 49ers. Tactics of the left. No family unit. No God. Open sex and drugs. No white. No man. No work. No education. No pregnancy. No responsibility.
    Don’t even think about speaking up. Don’t think. Safety in prison guarded by government. Freedom is terrorism.

  • Herbe

    Ghana, where our former President Bill Clinton notoriously apologized for ending slavery some 150 years before in The United States, still maintained slavery for civil remedies and had only banned wholesale slavery immediately before his arrival to apologize. Slavery is not an evil Whitey issue.

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