Connecticut Set To Pass Major Gun Control Bill

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The Democrat-controlled Connecticut Legislature is likely to approve a series of gun-control measures that, if approved by Governor Dannel P. Malloy this week, would give the State broad and comprehensive power over individuals’ acquiring, owning and keeping track of firearms.

Members of both political parties are backing the measure in the State Legislature. Malloy, who has been outspoken in his push for the State to adopt tougher laws against gun ownership, had not gone on record Tuesday indicating whether he would approve the agreement, but State lawmakers said they expect him to sign the bill into law.

In an agreement Republican Senate Minority Leader John McKinney described as “a package that the majority of the people of Connecticut I know will be proud of,” lawmakers portrayed the deal, in part, as an admonition to Congress that “bipartisan” support for a gun control bill at the Federal level is both possible and desirable.

“In Connecticut, we’ve broken the mold,” Democratic Senator Donald Williams Jr. boasted. “Democrats and Republicans were able to come to an agreement on a strong, comprehensive bill. That is a message that should resound in 49 other states and in Washington, D.C. And the message is: We can get it done here and they should get it done in their respective states and nationally in Congress.”

Among other measures, the new legislation would do the following:

  • Ban the sale of “high-capacity” magazines.
  • Require immediate background checks for all gun sales.
  • Require background checks for even private gun sales.
  • Create a new database for mandatory registration of existing magazines that hold 10 or more rounds.
  • Create a statewide “dangerous weapon offender” registry — the first of its kind in the United States.
  • Expand the State’s assault weapons ban to include more than 100 models of firearms.
  • Set the minimum age for buying a semiautomatic weapon at 21.
  • Increase penalties for “firearms trafficking” and “illegal possession” offenses.

Connecticut has remained a ground-zero talking point for gun-grabbing legislators, governors, mayors, Congressmen and President Barack Obama since last December’s mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown.

A legislative vote is expected to pass the bill on to the Governor today.

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • R.F.

    Excellent measures but just a small step so far. Such positive measures to try to reduce gun violence have only limited value if passed in only one state. There must be nation wide measures because at the moment no matter what one state may do weaponry to kill children or movie goers etc. can still be transported from other states that allow weapons sales to any Tom, Dick, or Harry.

    • Doc

      Another sad misguided person. Bless your heart too

    • Phillip Maine

      China free trade zones are the major suppliers of the weapons you want to ban.

  • Doc Sarvis

    All very practical measures and you still get to have fire arms. This is the very least that the Newtown state could do and what the whole country should have in place.

    • Doc

      Such a sad misguided person. Bless your heart

    • momo

      Liberals all have the same problem, they think if they pass a law criminals are going to comply with it. Fat chance, that’s why they’re criminals. You think a law that only law abiding citizens are going to follow is going to have any impact on crime? Think again.

  • Doc Sarvis

    All very practical measures and you still get to have fire arms. This is the very least that the Newtown state could do and what the whole country should have in place.

    • FreedomFighter

      It will do nothing to stop anything, except put restrictions on Americans, setup for confiscation and subjecation by a totalitarian regime.

      • Dave

        All I hear from FF is “fear, paranoia and some more fear” thrown in for good measure. We have no histocial precident for any totalitarian regime. Do you have anything rooted in reality? So to stop drunk driving, your answer is to relax all laws around driving while intoxicated? That is what you and others are basically saying.

        • FreedomFighter

          You sound like an idiot. Reailty is the 2nd amendment, not some stupid blather you are pushing.
          Laus Deo
          Semper FI

          • Dave

            When you can’t argue the point… call names… typical conservative response. The 2nd Amendment has limits. Otherwise protest the fact that you cannot possess a live grenade.

          • FreedomFighter

            Shall not be infringed

            sets no limits — and yes you can possess a live grenade, not all that hard to make either

            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

          • Dave

            FF,

            Where can I buy one? You know as I do, you can’t. You can make your own and then as soon as the Gov finds out, you get arrested.

            Come join us in reality. There are limits to the 1st and 2nd amendments. get over it.

          • independent thinker

            You can buy hand grenades if you wish. To do so legaly you have to have a special license (Class III I think) that allows you to purchase and posess explosive devices. Of course you then have to find one of the relatively few dealers who are licensed to sell grenades and be willing to pay the price for them.

          • Dave

            A limit to the 2nd Amendment!!! Everyone LOOK!!! Oppression!!!

          • independent thinker

            Is that failed attempt at sarcasm the best you can do Dave. I neither agreed or dissagreed with the laws concerning posession of hand grenades I pointed out the FALLACY of your claim you could not purchase them and pointed out it can be done legally.

          • Dave

            IT-Yet it is effective. You have to get a special license the GOV, the big evil Gov, grants you to obtain such authorization. Nobody is protesting or screaming about their 2nd Amendment right being taken away because you can’t come off the street and purchase such items. So the people crying over the law that CT is trying pass need to stop.

          • FreedomFighter

            You hit it, thanks
            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

        • Phillip Maine

          So Joe Stallin is not a historical precident? Or how about Adolph Hitler, or Mow or every dictator who rose to power in the last 100 years? Maybe you should do your home work before you make statements as above.

          • Dave

            Phillip, I am referring to the United States.

          • Phillip Maine

            Our founding fathers fought such a government. And every war we have fought, except maybe one, has been against such tyrants. Ultimate power corrupts totally, what makes you think our government would not do this if they could get away with it? It is those guns that have slowed the process to the point it is just now happening.

    • Phillip Maine

      It is a shame you did not really look at what happened in Newtown. 1. It has been proven that the so called gunman could not have shot the volume of bullets in the time alotted between the first shot and the police response. 2. His gun large clip gun was locked in his trunk. If he did not have time to shoot the bullets before police response, he sure did not have time to cross the building to the parking lot to put his gun back into his trunk. The arms the shooter had on him were the wrong caliber so could not have been the cause of the death of all the children. 3. There were two men besides the shooter on the scene during the shooting. 4. Social Security Administration and a hospital lists the shooter as having died the day before the school shooting and his blood was not found on the floor where he supposedly committed suicide. Who actually done this Horrible shooting, I do not know, but it is not as you have seen it in the press.

    • Average Joe

      The only thing that these laws will do…is make more innocent, law abiding citizens into….criminals. No self respecting American Patriot will comply with these regressive, Un Constitutional laws. Which part of “Shall not be infringed” do you nit-wits….not understand? (Don’t make me give you a lesson in the usage of the English language).
      So, rather than enforcing the existing laws and going after the actual criminals…your answer is to make more law abiding Americans…into criminals? Well thank you so much for looking out for us…what would we do without your special [comment has been edited]
      AJ

      • Average Joe

        Bob, are the PC speech police out today? I can’t believe that comment was edited….of all places…here…..the end is truly near…..

        AJ

  • Doc

    Another bunch of idiots jumping on the obama commie train.

  • Warrior

    Oh, this would make grampa “adolph” so proud. The “legacy” lives on!

    • Average Joe

      It’s funny how everyone remembers Hitler and the Holocaust….but no one seems to remember where he got the idea…who Hitler modeled the Holocaust after ( he even wrote about it).
      They say that Hitler eliminated 11-13 million people during his cleansing…which still didn’t surpass his model. There was another Holocaust that started about 200+ years before Hitler, that has cleansed an entire nation of approx. 19 million people Can anyone guess what nation that was and who the people were that were virtually wiped from the face of the earth? Think about it for a while.

      AJ

  • JustMe

    How do they intend to “register” standard capacity (30 round) magazines since they have no serial numbers? For a semi automatic belt fed, do they intend to register every link separately?

    These legislators have not thought this through past the press conference, but what is new?

    • Average Joe

      We all know that before the ink is dry, there will be a multitude of court cases for Constitutional violations. A stay will be issued by the court (there will be too many suits for them to simply ignore them all) and the law will not go into effect until the numerous court battles are decided at the Federal level.
      I don’t care what laws they try to enact…let’s see them enforce them…..
      Peace through superior firepower!
      AJ

  • Everett

    It is good to know what people do not value their freedom, when it hits the fan there is no need to risk ones life to try help such people. I am sure that the pols will be very happy to defend those trusting peole. One cannot cure stupid.

    • Phillip Maine

      soldiers, including the seventeen of my ancestors who fought in the revolution, all soldiers risk their lives every day for such people. It is called freedom.

  • Hedgehog

    Hey all you National Socialist wannabes, you missed a few. All citizens will be required to have and carry an Identity Card, which must be produced on demand! All Jews, gays, masons, members of the NRA and members of other subversive groups must wear a shoulder flash or brassard denoting their perversion. Public assemblies of more than 3 citizens is forbidden! All mention of God is forbidden! All hail the Phewrer, Obama Augustus, SEIG HEIL!

    • http://www.facebook.com/sean.frank28 Sean Frank

      go move to Germany if you hate America

      • Hedgehog

        I got news for you. Number one, I’m a Canadian. Number two, I live in Canada. Number three I don’t hate America, or the American people. Number four, I don’t even hate Obama. In order to hate Obama I would have to respect him, I don’t, I despise him and his sycophants!

    • Phillip Maine

      This kind of statement does nothing to further the cause of freedom.

  • Shall not be infringed

    dont say it show it.

  • Dave

    Lets look at them one at a time…

    “Ban the sale of “high-capacity” magazines.”
    Common sense, you can defend your home with a 10 round magazine. Hunters do not need large magazines…

    “Require immediate background checks for all gun sales.”
    Common sense

    Require background checks for even private gun sales.
    Common sense

    “Create a new database for mandatory registration of existing magazines that hold 10 or more rounds.”
    I guess you have to “grandfather” what is out there…

    “Create a statewide “dangerous weapon offender” registry — the first of its kind in the United States.”
    I have no problem with it, you use a weapon in anger or to steal… I am fine with it

    “Expand the State’s assault weapons ban to include more than 100 models of firearms.”
    I would want to see the models… military weapons have no business being on the street just like grenades, bazookas and flame throwers

    “Set the minimum age for buying a semiautomatic weapon at 21.”
    I disagree with this for the same reason the drinking age is 21… If you can fight and die for your country at 18, then you should be able to buy alcohol and buy a gun… (not at the same time of course)

    “Increase penalties for “firearms trafficking” and “illegal possession” offenses.”
    Common sense
    So this law is just common sense for the most part. Its not an attack on the 2nd Amendment. Its part of that “well regulated” piece that the gun advocates misuse because in this country we do not have manditory military service in training like the Swiss do so you can stop with that lie. Regular people can still buy their rifles, handguns and shotguns. They just make it a little harder on the criminals… Sorry for the inconvenience. But it these laws save 1 life, sorry, its worth it to me.

    • Dave

      Of course for these to really work, these have to be national laws. Ask the city of Washington DC how well their “gun ban” worked when you can simply go to VA, WV or MD and buy a gun very easily. Personally I do not favor what DC did but it was doomed to fail from the very start. Comprehensive gun “bans” are not the answer, Economic opportunity for all, legalization of drugs, personal responsibility and a change from viewing guns as toys and violence so cavalierly is in order. But then that takes work doesn’t it?

      • Average Joe

        Are you actively trying to appear dumber than a box of rocks?

        It is apparent that you haven’t a clue of that which you speak.

        In order to buy a firearm through any FFL dealer…you must provide a picture ID which shows your state of residence…if you are from another state, they can’t (by law) sell it to you. It would be much simpler for them to purchase from the black market rather than making a road trip…that is destined to end badly.

        Do you just make this stuff up as you go or do you have a manual of silly things to say? Once again….wise up and quit removing all doubt about your mental capabilities. (limited is an understatement).

        AJ

        • Average Joe

          Actually, I misstated one point,. They can sell a firearm to someone from another state…provided that the firearm in question does no violate that state’s laws…and most likely, it will be sent to an FFL dealer near your physical address…where you will actually fill out the paperwork and get your background check done and pay a transfer fee. Trust me, it will not be handed over to you on the spot if you are from out of state…it simply will not happen.
          BTW, I am originally from WV….so please don’t try to BS me.
          AJ

          • Dave

            So AJ, as a DC and VA native of 35 years who also knows what is going on, where do all those guns come from. You are from WV? I will type slower next time.
            So many busts were made of people running guns from VW, VA, MD and the surrounding states to DC because you can’t buy guns in DC remember? but those guns just magically appeared, I forget.
            As I said which you apparently missed, banning all guns is NOT the solution. But then you have the “intelligence” to want to have teachers walking around in schools with guns thinking that it would not end in unintended consequences and horribly at that. But you are a conservative and rarely do conservatives think thing through.
            One day, you will learn to think… It will be a scary day for sure but one day it may happen for you.

          • Average Joe

            “You are from WV? I will type slower next time.”

            Is that so that you can comprehend what you’ve written? By all means, if it helps you…type much slower.(it’s obvious that you need all of the help you can get).

            “So many busts were made of people running guns from VW (sic), VA, MD and the surrounding states to DC because you can’t buy guns in DC remember?”
            Ut oh everyone…VW is on a gun running mission…Dave says so! Stop those cars!
            It’s nice that you claim that all of these guns have come from VW (sic), VA, MD…where is your verifiable proof? Did you forget to verify your accusations? It isn’t nice to accuse…without being able to prove those accusations. In a court of law, doing so would be considered slander and defamation of character….a civil infraction that could be quite costly.
            You live in DC? That explains everything….you ARE the knuckle-dragging Neanderthal that I was speaking about earlier…you live in brain damage central…who woulda thunk?
            Keep living in your “what if” world (as long as you keep worrying about what might happen…you’ll keep missing out on what is happening)….I’ll stick to living in reality….the here and now.
            Now, pick up those knuckles, they’re looking pretty raw…..
            AJ

    • Phillip Maine

      the right to bare arms is the right to protect yourself from an out of control government. Our founding fathers put this in place to make sure the gov has more than just government and judicial checks and balances. An armed citizenry is also a check on the Gov.

      • Dave

        What is your point? These laws are not talking about taking away guns, just background checks and stiffer penalties for breaking the law. You apparently are against that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sean.frank28 Sean Frank

    gun grabbers are making a big mistake

  • Unhappy CT Taxpayer

    The ink has not even dried on this legislation yet. They have not even released a draft, just summarized it’s contents. To say it is overreaching is an understatement. Registration of magazines (over 10 rounds), and you cannot leave your home or the range with them fully loaded. I have no idea how this will happen because all of the mags that I own do not have serial numbers on them. And how can I forget, you cannot transfer any firearms with 10+ round capacity magazines. Otherwise it’s a class D felony.

    They also want NICS checks for buying ammo. Like there is any to buy now?

    Also, these guys want to take semi-auto rifles to one feature.

    Did I say how much I love this state?

    What stuttering Dannel and the rest of the politicians do not understand is criminals will not comply.

    • Dave

      So your answer is to do nothing or to adhere to the study the NRA themselves just came out with and paid for which is to arm teachers and school administrators? (yeah that will end well)

      So few real answers are coming for the NRA. They just want the money to keep rolling in. Keep the fear going…
      Most of what CT is proposing is common sense measures.

      • Phillip Maine

        Would it not make more sense to teach the children– You should not steal, you should not murder, Teach them that it does matter what you do and say!

        • Dave

          That goes without saying Phillip

      • Average Joe

        “So your answer is to do nothing or to adhere to the study the NRA themselves just came out with and paid for which is to arm teachers and school administrators? (yeah that will end well)”
        Are you saying that the teachers (you know the people you trust with your children daily) aren’t intelligent enough to learn how to operate a firearm in a safe and responsible manner? Wow, glad to see you hold your fellow humans in such high regards. Just because you can’t operate a firearm in a safe and responsible manner, doesn’t mean everyone else has your learning disability. Maybe someday you’ll awaken from your self-induced coma….doubtful…but maybe….
        AJ

        • Dave

          AJ,

          Not saying that teachers do not have the ability to use a weapon, but being trained in those high pressure situations is another thing all together. But I keep forgetting, righties have seen too many John Wayne and Stallone movies to realize this.
          Also where do you store the weapons? Do you have one in the office? Should each teacher have one in their classroom? Can you see any scenario where some kid could get hold of these guns or have someone break in to the school at steal these guns?
          The NRA study is a joke and they know it too.

          • Average Joe

            “Not saying that teachers do not have the ability to use a weapon”

            That is precisely what you said : ” (yeah that will end well)”

            If you have this opinion of teachers, I hate to think about what you think about the rest of us poor, lowly, knuckle – dragging, Neanderthals in the world. I bet we aren’t even smart enough to eat with a fork (might put someone’s eye out)…. right?

            “but being trained in those high pressure situations is another thing all together.”

            Well duh!!! That’s what safe and responsible firearms ownership requires….Training. No one is forcing these teachers to arm themselves and protecting our children, it is voluntary. Anyone that wishes to carry in this capacity should be required to take and pass a course (similar to police training) and have a certificate in order to carry a firearm on school property…that my friend…is common sense

            “Also where do you store the weapons?”

            I would say that each teacher should be carrying his or her firearm concealed on their person…it is their firearm, they took the course to be certified, they should have possession. There is nothing to stop the requirement that it is either trigger locked or in the case of a semi auto magazine removed, for safety purposes … nobody can grab it and use it…unless the situation requires it (if it is required, it is a simple process to unlock the trigger or put in a magazine). It always sucks when you don’t have the right tool for the job. A firearm is the best tool against another firearm…hands down, no doubt about it. With a little bit of thought, you could have figure this all out….maybe…nah….

            “The NRA study is a joke and they know it too.”

            Non Seqitur
            I don’t recall mentioning the NRA study….that would be you that keeps bringing it up….for whatever silly reason…maybe to hear yourself talk?…To see…. if you say it enough…we may start to believe you? ( BTW,that’s not likely to happen).
            Pull yourself together man. Use that thing on your shoulders for something other than a hat rack. Believe it or not…if you really do some brainstorming…you to can come up with more than one or two solutions to a problem…heck you may even think of something…logical…….nah, that isn’t happening…..
            AJ

          • Dave

            AJ,

            lets review what I said.

            I said the NRA’s solution is to arm teachers and administraitors (yeah that will end well)

            There are some many things that can go wrong there that have so little to do with the teacher and administrator.

            You say, “Teacher should carry their weapon on their person”

            Really? What happens is a fight breaks out and they to get in the middle of it (never happens in schools in conservativeland I know but in the real world, it happens) and one of the kids gets to the gun and kills the kid he is fighting with, or the teacher or another student? Does that scenario register at all?

            Or how about this one. a teacher and a principal get into a heated arguement and one of them pulls a gun in the heat of the moment and kills the other? Anything???

            How about good old fashined theft of the weapon at school? Still nothing?

            The NRA trains you on how to care for your gun, how to shoot properly and gives advice on how to store the weapon. The NRA does NOT teach you how to deal with a person that just comes up to you and points a gun in your face. That is situational training that takes years to master and that is for the police and the military, not teachers.

            You clearly have not thought your position through and its understandable given your political slant. Your idea is so filled with potential disasters that it is laughable that you would even suggest this nonsense. But this is the state of today’s conservatives.

          • Average Joe

            “Really? What happens is a fight breaks out and they to get in the middle of it ”

            I believe that I answered your question above…reading comprehension problems? Oh, wait, we’ve already established that you have a learning disability … in my first post. You get one point for reading…but you lose three points for lack of comprehension. Seriously, what good is reading…if you can’t understand what you’ve read?

            “Or how about this one. a teacher and a principal get into a heated arguement (sic) and one of them pulls a gun in the heat of the moment and kills the other? Anything???”
            Once again ..addressed above .. please take a reading comprehension course. (if not for you…do it for the children…..

            What if birds flew upside down? What if candy kisses were made of gold? What if? What if all jackasses were named Dave?What are we, the “thought crime” police?

            Are you willing to punish everyone for something that they “may do” in the future? Or, would it not make more sense to punish people….who actually commit a crime? (think real long and hard before you answer).

            First of all cite me any examples you have of this phenomenon happening in the past. is this something that happens only in schools, or is this scenario one that can play out with anyone, anytime, anywhere?( after all, anyone can “snap” at anytime…it’s one of those unknowns in life) Since this conversation began, I have doubted your ability for reason and logic…and I must say, you have not disappointed. Thank you so much…for removing all doubt.

            AJ

          • Average Joe

            ” The NRA does NOT teach you how to deal with a person that just comes up to you and points a gun in your face. That is situational training that takes years to master and that is for the police and the military, not teachers.”
            Obviously, you know absolutely nothing about the NRA. Are you not aware that many of the gun ranges throughout the nation are sponsored by the NRA and than many of these gun ranges are where our police officers and security personnel go to train?
            It is obvious from your posts, that you are a reactionary rather an objectivist (typical liberal , regressive mindset). All of your decisions are driven by emotion rather than reason or logic. For folks like you, it is always…what if? You fail to deal with reality because your emotions are running your life ( that must really suck).
            Once again, best wishes for a full recovery,
            AJ

          • Dave

            I know more than you do unfotunately, having been to their HQ in Fairfax VA and worked for the FBI. But keep trying… You explained nothing. Your ignorant positions will just get more people killed.

          • Average Joe

            Simply saying that you did something, neither confirms nor denies that you have actually done …anything. You failed to address anything that I posted….Obfuscate and dance the jig? Take more lessons….
            AJ

      • bxarmybrat

        How well did the ‘Gun free zone’ end and by the way what s the difference between the NRA’s approach and the sercret service’s (good man with a gun deterring the bad man with a gun) ?

    • Phillip Maine

      They really do not care if criminals comply. They do not want you to have the right to bare arms, in the constitution so we can protect ourselves from an out of control government. The Declaration of Independence basically says when a government becomes tyrannical it is the obligation of the populous to overthrow it. So the right to bare arms is a check on the rise of a dictator.

    • Average Joe

      “Also, these guys want to take semi-auto rifles to one feature.”
      Tell them, That’s fine…make that one feature… full auto… ;)
      AJ

  • Doc

    I have never in my long life seen a firearm kill a person. It is a tool the same as a knife, axe or hammer. It requires a person to pick it up and use it. Only an idiot blames the tool.

    • Dave

      A car is a tool too… and the Gov has a national database to know who owns what car and tracks its sale. Scary stuff…
      But a gun’s first use is to kill. Common sense safety measures which are favored by the majority and most NRA members are in this bill from what I see. Only the NRA and their fringe supporters are trying to scare people with this.

      • Doc

        Do you blame the car for drunk drivers? Do you blame the hammer for hitting your thumb? Do you blame the spoon for making you fat?

        Don’t blame tools, blame people. Don’t make laws for tools, make or enforce laws for people who abuse the tool. Do NOT hinder my right because of what someone else does.

        • Dave

          Nope, I blame the driver and I pass laws making it harder for drivers to drive drunk and to impose stiffer penalties for those to violate the law. But you can still buy a car.

          • Doc

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          • FreedomFighter

            Driving a car is not covered by the 2nd amendment — you still sound stupid.

            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

          • Dave

            You fail to understand the point… what does that make you?

          • independent thinker

            You mean you have a point other than your desire for ever more restrictions on the law abiding gun owner.

          • Dave

            Yesm IT that is the whole point of the CT law… to restrict law abiding citizens. You win. I do apologize if your inconvenience saves lives… My priorities… I really need to do a self-reassessment.
            Where did I go wrong? To have background checks on ALL gun sales and to impose stiffer penalties on gun trafficing… Afterall, the pro-gun side has given us such compelling arguments such as Stalin, Hitler and Mow… sort of the swiss-army knife of those people with to real argument to justify their position.

      • independent thinker

        One BIG problem with your post Dave. I have yet to find anywhere in the Constitution an express right to own any means of transportation whether automobile, horse, buggy, wagon, or anything else you can think of. The Second Amendment on the other hand recognizes our inherent right to own firearms and states that right shall not be infringed.

        • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

          i.t.

          Though I agree with your understanding of the 2nd Amendment, the government’s promise to respect the other rights you mention that you can’t find is found in the 9th Amendment…

          • independent thinker

            While it would be covered under the ninth in general terms that still is not “an express right to own any means of transportation” like the Second does for firearms.

          • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

            “(A)n express right to own any means of transportation”

            If you change “express” to “enumerated,” then I have to agree with you :)

            Of course, Dave’s argument boils down to this:

            http://olgreyghost.blogspot.com/2013/02/draconian-laws-and-beating-ones-wife.html

            It is not reasonable to depend on the precedent of a prior unreasonable law to justify the implementation and enforcement of another unreasonable law…

            http://olgreyghost.blogspot.com/2009/06/is-there-reasonable-gun-control-law.html

          • Dave

            Actually Ol,
            The purpose is to illustrate how silly and irrational the pro-NRA side actually is.

          • http://www.OlGreyGhost.Blogspot.com/ Ol’ Grey Ghost

            I not exactly sure what it is to be “pro-NRA.” I don’t like the organization because it makes too many “deals with the Devil” and appeases the enemies of Liberty more often than it does its members.

            On the other hand, I am a strong believer in my “Right to Keep and Bear Arms,” and no one can take that right, or any other of my rights, away from me…

            http://olgreyghost.blogspot.com/2009/05/if-second-amendment-was-repealed-what.html

            They can try to steal from me those objects that they and their minions object to me owning and using. Stealing is evil, even when it is government-approved…

  • Steve E

    This is a good time for all gun grabbers to move to CT and NY and then secede from the union so they can have their communist utopia. Don’t worry, I don’t think anyone outside those states will even give a damn about that, and therefore the gun grabbers in CT and NY and those that believe in the Constitution elsewhere in the U.S. can get along in harmony.

  • al

    OMG–look out Texas & the South…mass migrations…..& deer hunters & calling all criminals……moving in droves from the great white north……South…where the deer & the 2nd amendment antelopes reign…freedom!!

  • Alex

    Those gun-addicts whining about the efficacy—or lack thereof–of current gun control laws in such places as Chicago and NYC miss the point entirely.

    The blame for the rate of gun violence in these places sits directly with the liberal gun laws in backwards places like the South.

    What is required for our Idiocracy are forward-looking NATIONWIDE anti-gun measures.

  • Unhappy CT Taxpayer

    Dave, I love the car analogy. Tell me, do you need to be initially fingerprinted, and then go through a background check to buy every car? Now to continue with your analogy, you would need to submit to a background check to fill your “assault car” (applies only if you drive a black car) up with gas. Cars are not described and protected in the CT Constitution. Article 1, Section 15 protects a citizen’s right to own firearms.

    I’m tired of progressives using the following phrase “reasonable, common sense approach.” You and liberal politicians do not have any right what I can and cannot use to defend my family!

    The funny part is you think the NRA doesn’t offer any suggestions yet the politicians reference NRA training as the basis to obtain a CT pistol permit.

    Let’s see, politicians putting law abiding citizens at a disadvantage to FELONS will turn out well too.

  • Average Joe

    I can’t put this any more simple than this:

    I will not comply
    (Un Constitutional laws… are not laws)

    AJ

    • Dave

      What courage! Quick someone nominate AJ for the medal of freedom. He gets on a website and proudly annouces:

      “Ban the sale of “high-capacity” magazines.”
      AJ will sell high capacity magazines to anyone who wants one! HOORAW!!!

      “Require immediate background checks for all gun sales.”
      AJ will NOT submit to any background check. We will just need to take his word for it

      “Require background checks for even private gun sales.”
      See above

      “Create a new database for mandatory registration of existing magazines that hold 10 or more rounds”.
      AJ will stash all of his high capacity magazines in preparation for Obama’s war on white Christians

      “Create a statewide “dangerous weapon offender” registry — the first of its kind in the United States.”
      When AJ commits a crime with a gun and gets caught, he will get out of being on this list somehow. Does Lincoln Tech offer computer hacking courses?

      “Expand the State’s assault weapons ban to include more than 100 models of firearms.”
      Crazy AJ will be selling all 100 models on the side of I-95 and his prices are INSANE!!!!

      “Set the minimum age for buying a semiautomatic weapon at 21.”
      AJ invents a “youth” machine to take himself back to age 19, not to pick up women, just to break CT’s law because nobody knows the US Constitution and being a patriot like AJ

      “Increase penalties for “firearms trafficking” and “illegal possession” offenses.”
      AJ will go on a hunger strike to be let out of jail early on principal after being arrested on I-95 for gun trafficing the 100 outlawed weapons.
      I can say I was there to see AJ’s act of patriotism. Some show off by saying they were at MLK’s “I Have a Dream” speech in DC. But I can say I saw AJ bravely announce to the world on a website that “He will not comply”
      We should rename Charleston’s Airport in his honor at once!!!

      • Average Joe

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        • Dave

          Lol. You are the one who says he determines which laws you will follow. I see you are off yours. Sad and pathetic… That is what faux patriots like you are.

          Is tomorrow “red light” disobedience day in your sad little world?

  • WTS/JAY

    Another hypocrite politician…a member of Mayor Bloomberg’s ‘Mayors Against Illegal Guns’ group, has been busted for demanding drunken gay sex at gunpoint from a young man who looked to Mayor James Schiliro of Marcus Hook, Pennsylvania as a ‘father figure’. Schiliro has since been dropped from Mayor Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” group, whose slogan is “The time has come to Demand Action.” Will Mayor Bloomberg soon announce a new group for mayors, “Mayors Against Mayors Using Illegal Guns to Demand Gay Sex”? more:http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/04/mayor-against-illegal-guns-busted-for-demanding-gay-sex-at-gunpoint-2506168.html?utm_campaign=&utm_term=http%253A%252F%252Fb4in.info%252Fd0I4&utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse