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Concealed Carry Victory In Illinois

December 13, 2012 by  

Concealed Carry Victory In Illinois
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Earlier this week, a Federal appeals court struck down an Illinois ban on concealed carry, which was the most sweeping State concealed firearms law in the Nation.

The U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals gave lawmakers in the State six months to create legislation that legalizes concealed firearm carry in Illinois.

“The notion of concealed carry is something new to many Illinoisans,” said Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) Executive Director, Richard Pearson. “I can understand the apprehension some feel about people carrying defensive firearms in public. If they have heard some of the misinformation about concealed carry that I have heard, then that apprehension would come naturally. However, the truth of the matter is, studies consistently show that concealed carry has purely positive impacts on public safety.”

Pearson said his organization has helped lawmakers draft a concealed carry bill that addresses background checks, field provisions and other issues that lawmakers could pass by January.

A big concern for many of the victorious concealed carry advocates is that lawmakers in the State will ignore suggestions from groups like ISRA and introduce concealed carry bills with provisions so strict that few, if any, citizens would actually qualify for a permit. There’s also a concern that legislators could include gun taxes, gun bans and other unacceptable forms of gun control onto the court-ordered concealed carry legislation.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • CZ52

    “A big concern for many of the victorious concealed carry advocates is that lawmakers in the State will ignore suggestions from groups like ISRA and introduce concealed carry bills with provisions so strict that few, if any, citizens would actually qualify for a permit. There’s also a concern that legislators could include gun taxes, gun bans and other unacceptable forms of gun control onto the court-ordered concealed carry legislation.”

    Given Illinois record you know that is exactly what will happen.

    • ibcamn

      state of ill has always been a mess when it comes to guns and gun control,Obama didn’t want this state to ever get a c.c.l. deal(ever)they passed this bill at the right time,if Obama spoke out right now against it he would get in a sh#tstorm for the next three years about it.but you watch,he will try to influence the writing of it somehow!the Gov of ill is in Obamas pocket.and yes the law makers will make it dam near impossible for law abiding people to get a c.c.l. on purpose,ill just don’t want legal weapons in that state to be out and about with citizens!maybe the lawmakers have a deal going with local drug org not to do this so their street corner dealers don’t get shot,or when dealers decide to rape a woman they wont get shot,god forbid the drug org loses a street dealer!maybe the police force does have everything under control(we just don’t know it yet).the state of ill needs this law just as bad as everywhere else does,maybe more.(well-yeah)but the people of that state should not be subject to extreme rule for the c.c.l..if too extreme it will be business as usual for crooks,thieves, burglars and rapists!and high budgets for overtime cops!and don,t get me started on the gang of cops!..if it does get way too strict for citizens to get a c.c.l.,then you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that ill is protecting their criminal organizations!….ooohh that’s got to sting(the truth)

      • eddie47d

        You make a nutty assumption that lawmakers and drug dealers are all in cahoots. I suppose you could trace one down and confirm that for us or was that just hype. I could throw a little hype into the conversation too and its so easy. That 22 year old in Portland also had a concealed weapon . He carried it in by way of a guitar case so no one suspected before the action begun. Once he took that semi-automatic weapon out he became a criminal. That is why anyone who wants to have a concealed carry permit needs to go through hoops and be certified. The non certified person probably could care less as in most of these killings but I won’t stand back and make it easier for them to either steal or purchase a weapon. There has to be strong laws to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys in case a legal concealed carry person is stopped. If not the police will book anyone who doesn’t have a reason and yes they are reported by shoppers and bystanders who don’t know their intentions. Be prepared but be safe and legal.

      • alpha-lemming

        Not to nit-pik but….. Illinois is not a mess…. Cook County IS a major parasitize the remainder of the State mess!!

      • Vicki

        Eddie47d writes:
        “You make a nutty assumption that lawmakers and drug dealers are all in cahoots.”

        Argument to ridicule.

        But since you asked.
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-henry-sterry/mexican-drug-lord-officia_b_179596.html

      • eddie47d

        I think the Sinaloa Cartel was mocking the American laws as stupid. Many on the left and the right have gone after the war on drugs and it has become a joke Chappie Guzman knows that and is laughing all the way to his next hacienda. It still doesn’t say which lawmaker is directly involved in those drugs If any.

      • CZ52

        “He carried it in by way of a guitar case so no one suspected before the action begun.”

        Where is your proof eddie all I can find says NOTHING about him using anything to conceal the gun.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Gun Control, hitting what you aim at and anyone who hasn’t got a record should be able to carry concealed and get the government out of private matters, that is what they always tell us?

      • Vicki

        The “they” being “pro-choice” proponents. Yes it is an interesting observation that they fully support and spend our money to let me choose to kill my defenseless unborn child because his/her presence is “inconvenient” AND they do not allow me to choose to defend my born child from mall and theater killers because it might inconvenience them.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DO42gUPdwk

      • Bill

        Good comments Benjamin,
        I like your definition of gun control

  • GRusling

    Court ordered legislation is never a good idea, and one has to wonder where that “Court” thinks it gets the authority to order ANY sort of legislation!

    For the Court to declare current law to be “unconstitutional,” and therefore invalid is one thing, but to try and “order” the legislature to craft a certain type of law is an entirely different matter! No court in America (including the US Supreme Court) has that manner of authority…

    • ranger09

      The purpose of the courts is to protect our Rights, Not hamper them. Honest People have the Right to carry Weapons, a simple Right made complicated by Goody Goodies and Politicians. If we are not allowed to protect our Lives and Property WHO is going to.

      • Vicki

        Ranger09 writes:
        “If we are not allowed to protect our Lives and Property WHO is going to.”

        Your Master decides which of his slaves are worth protecting.

    • Dennis48e

      “… and one has to wonder where that “Court” thinks it gets the authority to order ANY sort of legislation!”

      The courts “gets its authority” from the 60′s AND 70′S desegragation cases where the courts told the school sustems what they had to do and we let them get away with it. Understand I am all for desegragation but the courts had no authority to tell the states how th run the school systems until we let them do it. Before that they told you what was wrong and let you attempt to fix it.

      • tim

        We need to take away the dept of education from the federal gov’t. Just like anything else they have done, they have destroyed our schools, and our students have the lowest graduation rates ever!!!!!

    • TML

      I agree, Article 3 Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution gives the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals (a federal court ordained by Congress) jurisdiction of the case in which the state legislature was a party because it dealt with conformance to, or violation of, the Constitution. But nothing gives the federal court authority to order the drafting of any legislation. The courts were never intended to breach the separation of powers this way not even to a State legislature. The judicial branch is sovereign within itself to judge a law as invalid if it violates the Constitution only as it pertains to a specific case.

      Much like the concept of Judicial Review which is not Constitutional.

  • larry

    i just did and i think they would not let my comment go thru

  • Average Joe

    13 rules of gunfighting that everyone should know:

    1) Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.

    2) It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    3) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

    4) Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arm’s length.

    5) Never say,”I’ve got a gun.” The first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.

    6) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes; the response time of a .357 magnum is 1400 feet per second.

    7) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win- cheat if necessary.

    8) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets…you may get killed with your own gun, be he will have to beat you to death with it, because it will be empty.

    9) If you are in a gunfight; If you are not shooting, you should be loading. If you are not loading, you should be moving. If you aren’t shooting, moving or loading; you’re probably dead.

    10) In a life and death situation, do something…it may be wrong…but do…something!

    11) If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid…Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

    12) You can say ‘stop’ ‘alto’ or any other word, but a largebore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much a universal language.

    13) You cannot save the world, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

    (Author unknown, but on the money)

    “Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading”
    Thomas Jefferson

    • Bill

      Great Advice, Average Joe

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Cannot argue with a wise man.

    • larry

      concealed is a whole hell of a lot better than no carry at all i like open carry also then they (punks , thugs and anyone ) your stuff is your stuff and you mean to keep it!!!!!

  • JimH

    As someone who lives 40 miles west of Chicago, I’ll believe it when I see it.
    The last paragraph of this article is spot on.
    I have a Utah concealed carry permit and can carry in 29 different states, but NOT my own.
    If anyone can find a way to scew it all up it will be the Illinios state legislator (Mike Madigan) and Govenor Quinn. ( in office thanks to Chicago cemetaries)
    The Chicago Dem machine thugs don’t like when victims can shoot back.
    Be afraid of politicians who are afraid of you owning a gun.

    • Average Joe

      I can see it now, you can have a consealed weapons permit at the small fee of 10k….unless you are LE or Government official ..of course…..and a separate permit for each bullet.

      The Swiss used to require that every household have a firearm…now they keep track of every bullet…you must show them when and what you shot with a cartridge…whether range (recipt issued for spent ammo) or hunting (game inspected by officials)…
      most likely, Ill. will adopt this type of law…along with extremely high fees, making it impossible for the average person to afford.

  • Hedgehog

    I’m a Canadian, and I have a question. Why would anyone want to carry a concealed weapon? Wear your weapons openly and proudly. I wish I could wear my choices openly here in Canada. A pistol for 50 metres down to swords point and a sabre for close in work. Sabres are nice, point for sticking, edge for cutting and guard for punching. But, alas I have to improvise. My wallet is a lethal weapon! Back to the point, why concealed? If I understand it correctly, your second amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms. Anything from a hatpin to a cobalt jacked thermonuclear device.

    • Average Joe

      Unfortunately, many of us are in the same boat..our state doesn’t allow open carry (but we are working on changing that). So, I would personally rather carry consealed…than not carry at all.

      AJ

    • TML

      “thermonuclear device”

      In all intellectual honesty, I don’t think that qualifies as a “firearm”.
      But to answer your question, concealed carry and open carry is, or should be, a personal choice.

      • TML

        I wouldn’t recommend it for home defense either, lol

    • CZ52

      While I believe you should be able to carry open if you want I prefer to “keep um guessing” as to whether I am armed.

    • vicki

      There can be many reasons for concealed carry. One of the most amusing is to protect the delicate sensibilities of liberals who tend to panic when they see a gun.

  • TML

    Don’t forget the next Texas Legislative session begins January 8th 2013. All you Texans need to contact your representatives to push support for the Open Carry legislation (HB 2756) that already passed the House Committee 5 to 3.

    http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB2756

  • afdbghq

    It is time for the law abiding gun owners to say enough is enough. The second amendment guarantees us the right to keep and bear arms. There is no limitation on this right. No government (federal, State. or local) has the right to restrict our freedom under the second amendment. Every law abiding gun owner needs to take one day and declare it national carry day and carry their firearms with them ever where they go. Let the police arrest 50 million + gun owners and charge them. They do not have the manpower or the facilities to hold all of them.

    On the other hand give very harsh sentences to anyone who misuse a firearm. An example would be that if a person is committing a crime using a firearm and as a result of their actions someone dies the person committing the crime is charged with first degree murder and prosecuted and if found guilty of the crime they are automatically guilty of the first degree murder charge and the punishment should be a choice of either a bullet or a rope period, No plea deals, no blaming it on a bad childhood, etc.

    It is time we tell our elected officials they work for us and we will no longer tolerate any attacks on our Constitution and anyone who tries to do things against what the Constitution says will be immediately removed from office and charged with treason.

  • Vicki

    Prepare yourselves. They are coming for our guns. And soon thanks to another school shooting today. So very convenient these school shootings just about the time the government starts making noise about needing gun laws.

    http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/media-center/pr013-12.shtml

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooting_n_2300831.html

  • http://yahoo teresa

    in our state wee pass a bills for gum control and I LKE WHAT OUR GOVEOR AND OTHER DID WITH THAT BILLS WE PASS.THEY MADE SURE WE DON’T SALE NO GUM TO PEOPLE WITH PROBLEM. AND OTHE THINGS COME WITH IT TOO.THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE GUM BUT DON’T LIKE WHAT THEY PASS,i DO IT KEEP US SAFE AND THE GUM OUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEM.THERE ARE OTHER WAY THAT PEOPLE KILLS NO ONLY WITH GUM BUT OTHER THINGS THAT THEY USED IT TO PEOPLE KILL.WHAT ALOST TO THE VICTIM OF THE FAMILYS AND TEAHER AS WELL TOO.THEY WOULD BE MISSED AND i HOPE THE THA FIND OUT WHY DID HE KILL THEM HUMAN FOR NO REASON AT ALL.THIS FOR BOTH SIDE OF EACH FAMILYS THEY ARE ALL VICTIM OF THIS LOST.THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPPORTUNELY.

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