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Colorado Ballot Proposal Would Liken Booze, Marijuana

January 30, 2012 by  

Colorado Ballot Proposal Would Liken Booze, Marijuana

A ballot proposal in Colorado that will likely make it on the November ballot is aimed at legalizing the possession of small amounts of marijuana in the State by likening it to alcohol.

The ballot provision asks voters to decide if marijuana should be legalized in small amounts and law enforcement “regulate it like alcohol,” according to The New York Times.

“Why add another vice, right?” said Mason Tvert, a co-director of the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol, which has led the ballot drive. “But we’re not adding a vice; we’re providing an alternative.”

Supporters of the measure say that it will make communities safer by eliminating a thriving underground drug market.

The ballot proposal echoes sentiments of the Ron Paul Presidential campaign regarding State control of drug laws rather than Federal laws. Paul has called the war on drugs a “total failure” and last November made a connection between drugs and alcohol similar to that of the Colorado advocates.

“Why don’t we handle the drugs like we handle alcohol?” Paul asked. “Alcohol is a deadly drug.”

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • s c

    Is boredom contagious in Colorado? It seems a bit late for Colorado to jump on the legalized marijuana joy ride. Didn’t anyone tell them that
    Uncle Scam views marijuana as a no-no?
    The idea of regulated sales and ‘control’ via taxation hasn’t persuaded Uncle Scam to change his infallible opinion. So, WHY is Colorado acting like a marijuana johnny-come-lately? Maybe they should talk to someone in California.
    Actually, it wouldn’t hurt for Colorado to at least give it a try. Then they’d have less time to spend on rigging the upcoming ‘prez’ election.

    • Robert Smith

      What about states’ rights?

      After all, it worked in approving abortion before Roe v. Wade, gambling, assisted suicide…

      The PEOPLE speak and the Feds dump on ‘em.

      Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Robert, why do you lie? Abortion was not wanted by the majority of people, yet the Supreme Court decided in favor of some moronic vocal group. So much for the will of the people, eh? Obama bin Laden Care was rammed through legislation, though the majority of Americans didn’t want it. So much for the voice of the people, eh? States rights? You mean the God given right as is written in the 10th Amendment? How about when Indiana, along with other states used the 10th Amendment to defund unplanned parenthood and pass legislation that would mae it tougher to get an abortion? Obama bin Laden takes them to court and also tries to extort them by holding up medicare/medicaid money to these states. So much for state’s rights and the rights of WE THE PEOPLE. Need to know what you are talking about before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • altamber

          Sorry to say Samurai but lots of people were in favor of the Obama Care but had some issues with its “wording”. However most people are in favor of the government finally stepping in to legislate health insurance and drug companies who have gotten fat off the land at the people and this great country’s expense. Though it is in it’s infancy stages, this is legislature that once it’s perfected will prove to be both beneficial to people in separate party lines. As far as abortion that has been a heated topic for over thirty years now going strong, you say that it was not approved but forced on the masses…why do YOU lie? The reason it has never managed to switch back is because the garnered support for continuing it’s legalization BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE. Just because you are part of the demographic that doesn’t understand the need or share the beliefs in it, does not make it the majority vote, since it has been protected for thirty years strong.

          • http://naver samurai

            Bzzzzz, you’re wrong. When they rammed Obama bin Laden Care through legislation, more than 60& – 70%, or possibly more then that, did not want it. It is a matter of public record. Second, it is a violation of the Commerse Clause of the Constitution. That is the biggest sticking point of it. If it were OK, then why is it heading for the SCOTUS? It will be overturned, thank God. I shouldn’t have to pay the IRS money every year to opt out. That’s one of the violations. Third, you talk about abortion. Sorry dude, but if a good lawyer went to the SCOTUS and challenged the ruling, all they would have to do is base it o the 14th Amendment and it would be overturned. The majority of the population did not want it then and they don’t want it now. This is why the states are passing thougher abortion laws and making it harder to get one. Texas law states that a woman must show the woman her fetus before she makes her decision and Indiana law states that a woman must listen to the child’s heartbeat. Ohio says that if the fetus has a heartbeat, it is a living human being and is given all protections as any other American. Only someone that does not believe in this country’sChristian founding would be so ignorant as to support abortion. What part of WE THE PEOPLE don’t you understand? Neeeeed to study more and get your facts straight before you post. I also forsee abortion being overturned in my lifetime. Thank God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            altamber,
            Wrong! right before Abummer care went through, there were several polls done and even the MSM had to admit that over 70% of the population were AGAINST government sponsored or mandated insurance!
            It was the same with Bush’s scamnesty. Until millions of us flooded the phone lines , mail, and emails with complaints and threats of job loss they were also gonna jam that down our throats, as well!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Altamber? Altamber! Hey Altamber! You going to respond to Joe H. and I or what? What’s wrong? Cat got your tongue? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • KM

      How you gonna change anything if you allow the Feds to dictate to you? They are married to their wars on this that and the other yet what comes of it? I want my country back and this is but a small way to fight for it – we should start running our country not those lunatics who take orders from god knows who.

    • eddie47d

      Colorado has welcomed the marijuana issues for several years so we are not johnny come latelies. Most polls here show support for new laws legalizing it. The big worry is the federal government who keep raiding the state and confiscating plants. (25 busts last week). Colorado is ready to adapt if the Feds get off our backs.

    • http://www.Legalize2012.com COmidnightrider

      COLORADO Marijuana ~ 4:20p.m. Yesterday the Legalize 2012 Ballot Initiative was filed http://www.Legalize2012.com 

      • http://naver samurai

        Keep it illegal! No drugs! No excuses! No exceptions! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Karollyn

    Hopefully, the people of Colorado will be wise enough to recognize that thd time has come to enter the 21st century.

    • http://naver samurai

      Yes, by keeping it illegal and out of the hands of children. No exceptions! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • suprstock

        your name suggest Japanese heritage not Amercan .

    • TIME

      Karollyn,

      I agree with you 100%, thank you its good to see someone with a clue on this topic post something logical.

      All states should take back their independance under the 10th Amendment, oh wait all states should take back their Independance from the “De Facto United States Inc,” aka the City State of DC.

      Pot should have never been made illegal its that bloody simple. Knobus Oil = Holy Oil. A little fact that most Americans also don’t know due to lacking IQ’s and education is that when Anslinger started this whole BS thing about the alledged EVILS of Pot.
      As of 1929 the US Inc gained the 51% mark of Voters who were regestired for the Corporation known as the “United States Inc”. to take over the Nation completely.

      Yet one other fact thats little known due to complete Ignorance, If POT was good enough for The Christ, its good enough for everyone to heal them self with.

      Saddly the mass of sheep in this nation are running on 100% total made up worthless BS propganda about Pot, and talk about dumbing down the youth, so what’s with the adults who fit that profile?

      PEACE & LOVE

  • CP

    More poeple should take Colorado’s attitude toward marijuana. It is no more harmful than alcohol, and in many cases, actual useful. Ask paper manufacturers if they would rather work with hemp or wood, and you would be surprised to find hemp makes better paper, and is far more renewable, faster, than wood. Also, by legalizing and controlling by taxation, we eliminate another underground economy and all the shootemups that go with it.

  • Alex Frazier

    Sign me up. When I smoked pot in my younger years, I always noted the fact that the effects on me personally were roughly the same as that of alcohol. The only significant differences were that the one filled your belly, made you lose your appetite, and caused you to get sick. The other made your lungs black, gave you the munchies, and only got you sick if you couldn’t deal with the spinning in your head.

    I don’t see a difference between the two substances, and I think legalizing pot would be beneficial in numerous ways, in terms of law enforcement, price, taxation, reducing the drug cartels, the advantages of hemp production outside of the associated mind altering benefits, regulation, purity, quality, freshness, etc. The list goes on.

    • Peter A. Sagi

      Forget “legalization,” what I want is total repeal of all marijuana laws … zero government involvement, taxation, etc. They have enough of everything else to tax, they don’t need weed.

      If Colorado legalizes, the feds will come in and stomp them anyways. The right action is to plant hemp everywhere to the point where enforcement becomes impossible and eventually laws are repealed so as to save face. If weed simply grew EVERYWHERE there wouldn’t be much of an increase in use, but there would be a big decrease in people paying thru the nose for a little weed.

      Pete

      • Alex Frazier

        Not a bad idea. I suppose if we all got some seeds and casually spread them in various unused fields, that sort of goal might be accomplishable. Spread them in the woods, too. Spread them on the side of the highway.

        As you say, it would become a full time occupation for the government having to stomp out the wild growth.

        • Joe H.

          Good idea Alex!!! I can just about see all the people suffering from the effects of Agent Orange as the giverment goes into full destruct mode!!! remember, these aren’t the boyscouts you’re dealing with! don’t believe it? Look at the jungles, or what are left of them in VietNam!!

  • GRusling

    The secret, of course, is to deny the fed any authority not granted by the constitution. That would include “drugs” along with many other things. Federal officers are FAR outnumbered by State and Local Police under almost any imaginable circumstances, so what will stop the “State” when it refuses to grant federal authorities access to its citizens?

    Any State could easily say the same thing the “FED” always says to citizens; “You have no STANDING to object!”

    Our constitution leaves “law enforcement” to State and local authorities, along with almost all LAW MAKING! The US Government can find no constitutional authority to prove otherwise. Enforce the US Constitution and they have nowhere to turn, and the “STATES” (which wrote the constitution) are the proper enforcers of that constitution…

  • Phil F

    We waste too much money chasing down potheads who smoke pot. I agree with Colorado, treat pot like alcohol. If you drive or show up at work under the influence of pot you suffer the consequences just like you would if you were drunk. Let them smoke pot but if you drive you lose your license, if show up at work under the influence, you’re fired on the spot.

    • Joe H.

      Phil F.
      yup why not! The first time the guy shows up for work high, slips by detection, gets into the cockpit, flies, crashes, might be the last day for about 300 people. Yup, FIRE him! posthumusly, but fire him!!

  • FRENCHIE

    THIS IS A GOOD THING HERE, PEOPLE. NOT SIMPLY FOR THE RATHER SHALLOW REASON THAT I SMOKE MARIJUANA, BUT FOR THE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES AT HAND HERE. SUCH AS – 1) THE STATE OF COLORADO EXCERCIZING THEIR RIGHT AS A STATE TO OVERSEE REGULATION & TAXATION OF AN INTOXICATING SUBSTANCE AS THEY SEE FIT BY THEIR OWN STATE LAW, AS IT SHOULD BE. 2) LETTING IT’S CITIZENS (INSTEAD OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT) DECIDE WHAT’S RIGHT FOR THEM. 3) CREATING JOBS WITH TAXABLE INCOME (& HOPEFULLY BENEFITS) TO HELP THE STATE BECOME LESS DEPENDENT ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR FEDERAL FUNDS. BUT MAINLY RIGHT AWAY, JOB CREATION THAT I’M SURE IS SORELY NEEDED. 4) TAKING THE DRUG CARTELS OUT OF THE PICTURE & BASICALLY MAKING THEM OBSOLETE. IF IT’S LEGAL & THE STATE APPROVED DISTRIBUTORS CAN SELL IT CHEAPER THAN THE CARTELS IN A SAFER BUSINESS-LIKE ENVIRONMENT, WHO ARE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO BUY IT FROM ? SADLY ENOUGH, THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA STATES HAVEN’T CAUGHT ON TO THAT FACT YET. THEY SHOULD REALLY BACK OFF THESE DISTRIBUTORS WITH EXCESSIVE TAXATION & OVERLY EXPENSIVE RED TAPE THAT MAKES COMPETITIVENESS WITH THE ILLEGAL CARTELS’ PRICES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. I’M AGAINST LEGALIZING HARD DRUGS LIKE HEROIN, COCAINE, METHAMPHETAMINE, & THE DERIVATIVES OF SUCH DRUGS. THAT WOULD CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS THAN LEGALIZATION WOULD SOLVE. BUT DUE TO THE VERY NATURE OF MARIJUANA, YOU MAY AS WELL TRY TO OUTLAW DANDELIONS, CRABGRASS, OR CLOVER. IT’S A FREAKIN’ PLANT, NOT A DRUG !!! DRUGS ARE MANUFACTURED BY MAN, MARIJUANA WAS PUT HERE BY GOD FOR US TO USE (SEE GENESIS 1:29). MARIJUANA IS NOT A DANGEROUS DRUG. UNLESS YOU’RE A TWINKIE, CANDY BAR, OR BURRITO, THAT IS. I’M A CONSERVATIVE, I KNOW THE PARTY LINE ON THIS SUBJECT, & IT’S TOTALLY WRONG !!! TAKE THE JOBS IT’LL CREATE, TAKE THE REVENUE, ACCEPT THE BENEFITS, & TO HELL WITH WHAT THE FEDS SAY. IT’S COLORADO’S RIGHT TO GOVERN ITSELF & NULLIFY FEDERAL LAW IF IT WANTS TO. THOSE ARE THE REAL ISSUES AT HAND HERE, REGARDLESS OF “PARTY DOGMA”.

  • John Ennis

    A Stop this vile prohibition on Pot. It is unconstitutional and unAmerican. Who are you to decide for me? You can’t I won’t let you.

  • http://N/A Cinti.CB

    Considering all of the people who I have known who smoke pot compaired
    to those who abuse alcohol, I’ve seen the following.
    Many of the alcolhol abusers have, basically ruined their lives through addiction, fighting, doing REALLY dumb/assinine things,etc. It is MUCH harder to get ‘back on track’.
    The pot smokers do not get (physically) addicted, ‘mellow out’, and eat.
    I’ve thought, for many years, that the wrong one (of these two) was legal. Heck, there may have even been felons released from prison to make room for those hardened pot smokers-better to let a murderer or rapist roam the streets than someone who might be mellow!!!

    • Jm Walker

      I have observed as a nurse the medications offered to patients.Many medications are worse than cannibus.I am frustrated that cannibus has not been part of the choice for those who need it. I have seen many lives ruined by alcohol.I believe alcohol is a greater evil than cannibus.
      What about the federal deficit? I believe the taxation of cannabus would assist the government in this time of recession.I believe if cannibus is legalized, the war on drugs would be easier to fight. The prisons would be reserved for the truly dangerous criminals.

      • Alex Frazier

        The taxes wouldn’t actually help anything. If the government got more, it would simply spend more. And, in fact, it would prove a difficulty to the federal government, because the economic model they use doesn’t merely encourage deficit spending, it relies on it. If the government ever stopped spending money it didn’t have, the Keynesian model would come crashing down.

  • http://N/A Cinti.CB

    I hit the wrong button before I proof read my previous entry. The part following that pot smokers do not get addicted should have ‘they do become’ mellow and eat. I, also, wanted to add, at the end-GET A BRAIN LAW MAKERS.

  • Jays

    The agenda of the government in its policies against Cannabis have always been to deprive the people access to the plant, while maintaining control over it for the governments own self-interest. This self-interest extends to a multitude of industries including the prison and military industry, the petroleum, timber, cotton, and pharmaceutical industries, as well as the entirety of the banking and corporate establishment which has become empowered through disconnecting people from their one true source of independence and sustenance, the Earth.

    Cannabis prohibition has served to redirect human evolution from that of a decentralized agrarian lifestyle and natural economy, to a centralized petro-chemical military dictatorship controlled through the artificial economic will of private banks and other trans-national corporate interests.

    The next stage in continuing this control, is in the regulation, licensing and taxation of Cannabis cultivation and use through the only practical means available to the corporate system, which is through genetic engineering and patenting of the Cannabis genome.

    To achieve this end, the foundation is already being laid in the form of California’s upcoming initiative on the 2010 ballot. This initiative is called Proposition 19: The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010.

    The leading advocate for Proposition 19 is the organization known as the Drug Policy Alliance (DPA). The DPA is the leading organization spearheading the reform of Cannabis policies in the United States, and has been made up of some of the most powerful and influential characters in today’s global petro-bio-chemical-military-banking-industrial complex.

    Continued: http://www.encod.org/info/SOROS-THE-DEA-MONSANTO-AND-GMO.html

  • Cecil Brooks

    If you truly want Marijuana to be legalized in Colorado “or any where else for that matter” than you need to realize the person to elect into office is Ron Paul. I agree with Frenchie about not legalizing hard drugs and Ron Paul is not advocating the legalization of hard drugs. What he is advocating is getting the feds out of the way so the states can govern them selves and decide what or what not to legalize. He is also advocating stopping the drug war so some of the finest of our young people aren’t locked away in prison.

    Ron Paul is a strong contender in this race. I have read articles claiming that his support base is limited, or has a ceiling and can get only so big. They say it’s because the age group is 30 yrs and younger, and are mostly interested in the legalization of drugs. But I beg the differ with them. I’m 55 yrs old and don’t do drugs at all, I don’t even drink. But I would like to see this country go back to its roots “THE CONSTITUTION.” FOR ALL OF OUR SAKES!

    I was a tree surgeon for many years and I know from experience that if you start killing the roots of a tree, the tree will soon start dying. That’s what is happening to this country. The people are tired of being controlled by the feds in every area of our lives. They control what we eat, drink, how our kids are educated, what kind of fuel you can run in your car and every thing else. If we don’t start supporting someone who is for the people of this “United States Of America,” than we will lose all our rights and soon they will even be telling you what church you can attend, its almost that bad now.

    Because of the way things have been going, “in this government,” sense I have been very young, we the people have gotten very tired of the mess and the majority of us have stopped voting. The tree is dying. Not the government, the disease that is killing the roots, it just gets bigger and bigger. But the tree it’s self is dying and the people are just walking away and giving up. No one has known what to do.

    I ask everyone that reads this comment to study into what Ron Paul has to say in all the issues that have been laid out on the table. I believe you’ll find him very sensible and the only candidate that is worthy of holding the office of the Presidency. He has a track record that proves his honesty and I strongly recommend we stand behind the man and get something done for once, “OTHER WISE IT WILL BE TOO LATE!

  • r.p.

    Quotes by famous people

    “Why use up the forests which were centuries in the making and the mines which required ages to lay down, if we can get the equivalent of forest and mineral products in the annual growth of the hemp fields?—Henry Ford.

    “I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on the Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast”. -Ronald Reagan

    “If you substitute marijuana for tobacco and alcohol, you’ll add eight to twenty-four years to your life.” -Jack Herer

    Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth and protection of the country.” -Thomas Jefferson

    “The answer is no, I don’t think that (Cannabis Hemp) is a good strategy to grow our economy.” -Barack Obama

    “If the words “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” don’t include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn’t worth the hemp it was written on.” -Terence Mckenna

    “You know, it’s a funny thing, every on of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists.” -Richard M Nixon

    “A Prohibition Law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.” – Abraham Lincoln

    “First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win.” Gandhi.

    • AnneOnymous

      Ronnie Raygun has always been a nincompoop.. A second class actor, a third class president and his idiot followers (who are also against pot) are just as simple in mind (that probably surmises the brain dead theory).. His statement on pot is probably the most outrageous lie ever concocted..

      • r.p.

        Ooooh if you only knew how much I agree with you Anne-. What I failed to add in the above post was “Could you tell which statements embodied the TRUTH?” You found one lie, can you find the other ones?

      • Joe H.

        Anne,
        Be that as it may, I sure had a better life under him than either of the last TWO!!!

  • r.p.

    I’ve posted these quotes (above) on PLD before, but I think they needed to be posted again. Just to open the mind to the concept of knowledge through education. By the simple act of researching the topic, one can really make an educated decision. Just go ahead and “google-it!”. If you do, you will first of all find that there is a plethora of information out there regarding the topic. Some “pro”, some “con”. You may find as I did that the reasons the opponents cite for the need to keep it illegal and to class it as a “class I narcotic” has been scientifically debunked or socially discredited. You can go from there. Around 1986-87 National Geographic dedicated an entire issue to Cocaine, Alcohol, and Marijuana. It was the first “mainstream” publication to openly debunk Nancy Reagan’s “Voodoo Science”. Albeit it wasn’t Nat. Geo.’s intention, but rather their intent to present the public with scientific evidence regarding these substances.
    Since then advancements in micro-biology and molecular-biology have greatly expanded our knowledge into how the body reacts to drugs and environmental conditions. We are again confronted with more questions. Why do virtually all the land mammals on this planet have type I and type II cannabinoid receptors (CN1,CN2)? Why do all the mammals have specific CN1 or CN2 receptors in all their organs including their brains? Why do humans have twice as many of these receptors throughout our body and ten times as many in our brains. Why when applying THC treatment to specific organ dysfunctions, the organ function improves or repairs itself? (see: Medical Hemp Oil Uses) Why does THC mimic our body’s natural endorphins and dopamines without interfering or disrupting our body’s capacity to produce them? Why is marijuana the only known plant that produces THC abundantly? Why has this plant been cultivated by man for over 4,000 years? Why is this plant illegal when considering all it‘s known benefits???
    Personally I think all these attempts to regulate, tax, and keep control of it is a draconian attempt to maintain it’s high cost. It should be taxed and controlled just like we tax and control onions and Brussels sprouts.

  • chuckb

    just look at the good record of all countries who relaxed their drug laws, strange, they don’t have good records and in a lot of cases are changing their law again. of course the education system has done a good job of dumbing down, so lets legalize pot and finish the job.

    • youmama

      Dude you must be the dumb one…weed grows brain cells unlike booze that destroys brain cells…how much booze have you been drinking….

      • chuckb

        youmama, you are the example “weed grows brain cells” lol lol lol

        keep puffin on the dummy dust.

      • eddie47d

        Keeping Marijuana illegal only increases and encourages YOUR Police State which has been flourishing for many decades.

    • http://naver samurai

      HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Well said and somone who actually sees the light at the end of the tunnel. Users are losers and losers are users. So don’t do drugs. Don’t do drugs. Keep it illegal. For all of you that say about the various uses of marijuana, remember this one thing. How will you keep it out of the hands of children, who have no need of such things? One said that they were a nurse and sad pot should be offered, well my wife, who has been a nurse for 22 years and my mother who was a nurse for 52 years would disagree with you. Keep it illegal. No exceptions! No starying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        samurai – As a good Christian, you should respect God’s giving us all of the plants of the earth to use. You sand like the old “Just Say No” campaign which didn’t work and never will. People will always get high. You prefer alcohol? Or would you bring back prohibition? Alcohol destroys more lives than any other drug, and it is a drug. Kids will get high no matter what we do. At least from what I hear, these days alcohol use is down and pot use is up. Not everyone gets addicted either. I recently heard (sorry I can’t cite it.) that pot smoke is very much less dangerous to the lungs than cigarette smoke; and it does have many medicinal uses. Hemp is a wonderful plant and does not have all the THC, so it isn’t intoxicating; but “they” still don’t want it because of lobbying from big corporations. Do a little research on the subject, samurai.

        • http://naver samurai

          I will not budge from what I know to be morally and ethically right. Why do you talk about God giving us this plant to use? Care to cite a source on this? Are we speaking for God now, Karolyn? Don’t forget that God also says that we are to do nothing harmful or unnatural to our bodies. Taking or using illegal drugs are one of those things that God does not want us to do. No drugs! No exscuses! No exceptions! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          God gave us poison ivy, toad stools, and loco weed, too! Do you partake of THOSE as well? After reading some of your posts here, I believe you probably DO!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • r.p.

      Please, name one.

    • Karolyn
    • http://naver samurai

      Right on Chuck B. Many of these people that want drugs legalized don’t care what happens to children or if it kills people. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Harpo

    There are already a good number of studies that have shown a DECREASE in crime. Eliminate the “Black Market” and you’ll see significant reduction in crime!

    • http://naver samurai

      Care to cite those sources, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        come ON samurai. It’s just logical! I’ve heard drug dealers interviewed who are afraid of any drugs being legalized because they would lose their little corner on the market. Think of all those empty cells! Less DEA money wasted, less convict money spent, less problem with Mexican cartels, less murder, LESS CRIME! Just think a little bit.

        • http://naver samurai

          As I’ve said before. Cite some sources, because I sure are not taking anyone’s word for it. I’ve seen peope lose their careers, marriages, kids, houses, cars, etc., from smoking marijuana. No drugs! No exceptions! No strayig from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • r.p.

            Samurai: You may not know it, but most people are not even on the “path” you are on.

          • http://naver samurai

            Different opinions are fine r.p.(?), but I’ll stay on the one that is moral, ethical, and the ways of God. Neeeeed to probably get off the drugs yourself. Have you ever done drugs, hmmm? I have never done then at any time in my life. This is the moral, ethical, legal, and just plain more intelligent way to do things. As I’ve said before, God says to do nothing harmful or unnatural to our bodies. No drugs! No excuses! No exceptions! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • r.p.

            Your right samurai, opinions are fine. Everybody has one. But your conduct on this site is anything but MORAL or ETHICAL. You bully people on this site who dissagree with you and you lie about them and berate them. Has your God ever told you “Thou shalt not bear false whitness”? By the way, who do you think made that plant? Do you know a person who can make plants? Any kind of plant? I’m surely glad I’m not on your “path”….
            r.p.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer. You show me name calling or berating someone on this thread. I will not budge from what is morally and ethically right, but it seems you have (Kang). Remember what you promised Bob Livingston, hmmm? Like I said before, God may have made the plant, but not to smoke and get high on the stuff. Users are losers and losers are users. I’ve seen first hand acounts of this drug destroying people’s marriages, careers, and many other things. It just isn’t worth losing things that are more important. No drugs! No exceptions! No excuses! No strayingfrom the path. God still doesn’t wan us to purposely harm our bodies and illegal drugs harm our bodies. If you don’t know that, then you are hopelessly lost. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • TIME

    LOOK folks I have said this before so I will say it yet again.
    In 2008 I found out I had stage 4 Cancer. I was told that I had a few months.
    Yet I cured CANCER with “”Hemp Oil”" GOOGLE: Run from the CURE.
    I did so in just under six months……..
    As of today; January 30th 2012 I am still cancer free.
    Total out of pocket cost, $5000.00. What would it have been if Pot were legal to grow? Can you say ZERO?

    People Please all of you who are still sleeping wake the hell up.

    We all have been abused and lied to by the United States Inc. a “100% Total Criminal Corporation.” Its not a Government its really nothing more than a gang of 535 + 2 Criminals in Suits.

    When all of the people in this nation wake up to that fact, only then can we CURE this nation.
    Stupidity can’t be fixed as its only fostere.
    ** But on a positive note: Ignorance can be cured!

    REPEAL the 13th & 14th Amendment, please read them with a Blacks Law book and look up each word for its TRUE value.
    We are still all slaves folks as both of these amendments paved the way for the “CRIMINAL DE Facto” Corporation that runs this nation.

    Do you crave REAL FREEDOM or do you wish the chains of BONDAGE?
    JFTR- When the two noted Amendments are repealed, everything past the 12th Amendment goes out the window as they are all 100% ILLEGAL.

    Want your nation back, now you know where it went wrong, fix it or not as it is broken and its only going to become FAR more restrictive as TIME goes on.
    We have had NO laws written in this nation since 1933. Everything you think is a LAW is an ACT and where do you go for an ACT again, how about a PLAY, and who’s in plays, ACTORS. Political Thearter for the mass’s played out on the TUBE daily for the mindless sheep.

    Please all of you Googel; Bill Foust’ youtube feeds please watch them all and learn how to fix your nation. Google; the Season of Treason as well.
    If you don’t then your part of the problem, so don’t complain about what you want to keep rolling along with your just as responcible as the criminals that hold you down.

    One last thing, look people we are going to loose it all no matter what the outcome, if you work for REAL CHANGE, or stay with the statud Quo.
    But with REAL CHANGE back to the “Common Law” Rather than Lex Fori under the UCC format of MT law, you will all be FREE only when we have Common Law back. Again its your call?

    Your call.

    • Joe H.

      Time,
      As I have said before, legalize MEDICAL MJ, ok. Recreational use? Nope!

  • chuckb

    excerpts from drug facts:

    You may hear people ask, “If it’s dangerous, why do so many people have medical marijuana cards?”40 It’s true that scientists have determined that the cannabis plant has the potential for addressing a range of medical conditions. But it’s also true that when you’re young and your body is still growing, marijuana actually has the potential of inflicting a long-lasting, negative impact on your developing brain.

    Using marijuana at a young age can result in structural and functional deficits of the brain. This could cause you to develop weakened verbal and communication skills, lowered learning capabilities and a shortened attention span.40

    also marijuana carries potent thc which is far dangerous than smoking a cigarette.
    only usersd defend this drug, the doctors that imply how safe it is are all hiked on pot.

    karolyn: portugal is in the process of changing it’s drug laws.

    for myself i could care less whether you smoke pot, if that’s what you choose have at it. we have laws to guide society, without a steering wheel the ship will end up on the rocks. there is no such thing as free society, someone has to pay the price for freedom and in order to keep it free you must have rules.

    • Karolyn

      I don’t smoke pot; but it’s my body, and I should be able to do what I want with it as long as it doesn’t hurt anybody else; and who are you or anybody else who says otherwise?

      • http://naver samurai

        God also says that we are not to do anything harmful or unnatural with our bodies. Pot harms the body. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Jonathan

      @ chuckb: You and our Founding Fathers are in disagreement, as you are with me.

      • http://naver samurai

        Care to cite a source on that? This has nothing to do with our founding principles or Christian founding. Neeeeed to study our history once again and learn where you went wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • marine dad

    There is a pill form of pot that is given to cancer patients in the state where I live.I know this for a fact, its called”marinol”.This is a God send to cancer patients just like morphine is to a badly wounded soldier,if used right it has life saving worth.Some people call pot a gate way drug,this could lead to much worse things down the road.The bottom line is its illeagel and why do something that could cost you your job or keep you from getting one.

    • r.p.

      There is more and more evidence that Marinol does not work and is associated with detrimental side effect. A noted Isreali doctor has done a ton of research on cannabis, extracts, and synthetic compounds. His name escapes me(dang-it), but he is well known in the field of medicine, and I believe a Nobel laureate in cancer research. It’s worth the research.

    • http://naver samurai

      Right on marine dad! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://N/A Cinti.CB

    The reason that it’s (seen as) a ‘gateway drug’ is because the black market drug dealers have and suggest {push} the ‘harder’ stuff to get more money and get one ‘hooked’ (which does NOT happen with pot).
    If ANY drug is gateway, it is alcohol, which is legal.
    I do, though, agree with the person who commented about the negative effects on the young who are still developing-not just the physical effects. The main non-physical effect, besides paranoia, is lack of motivation with a majority (not all) of people.

  • WM

    I am tired of living under a constant state of martial law. There seems to be a war on everything but corruption and avarice. How many war do we have going on at once… Afghanistan, Drugs, Poverty, Terrorism and? Why have my representatives who are supposed to protect my constitutional rights, and even took an oath to protect the Constitution, abandoned both me and the Constitution? Why have they abandoned me and my fellow constituents? Is wealth and power the only aphrodisiac they recognize? Geez, can’t they get a hard-on giving some luckless person on the street a dollar? Maybe they just can’t get “excited” over giving someone a break? Even they must realize and that know their descendents may very well face the existential realities which some of us face now, right? I am so very tired of living under a constant state of martial law.

    • Joe H.

      WM,
      Tell you what. We legalize all drugs. then when you get so screwed up that all you can do is sit in the corner and $hit your pants, and don’t tell me THAT doesn’t happen, who the hell do you expect to take care of you in your SELF INDUCED STATE? you guys look at all the “Benefits” of drug legalization, yet NEVER look ahead to the later days! We’ve got too many on welfare looking for a free trip as it is, without all the screwed up whacked out druggies being on it too! I refuse to support ANY legislation that could put more azzwhipes on it!! Hard of me? Am I being an azzhole? YUP! My hard earned money, my wallet, stay the hell out!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Here! Here! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Craig

    How dare ANYONE tell us we can’t grow A PLANT..! Put them up against the wall..!

  • Jonathan

    Laws that prohibit drug use should be wiped off the books. The money misspent on the War On Drugs is enormous and can be used to reduce the national debt. As long as individuals do not adversely affect their fellow citizens, what they do is their own business. I don’t do drugs and don’t need laws to prevent me from doing so. Those poor souls convicted of victimless crimes should be set free. On so many levels, Ron Paul will be good for our country and that’s why I will be voting for him.

    • http://naver samurai

      Wrong! Keep the laws on the books and enforce them o the very letter of the law. No drugs! No excuses! No excptions! No straying from the path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • r.p.

        Although my time on this planet is finite and there is no way I want to cut it short. (offensive attack removed)
        r.p.

        • http://naver samurai

          Such ignorance and lies, but I shall not destroy you on this site and take a chance at getting banned. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          Hey R. P. (kang) why don’t you take a hike instead of trying to goad a good guy into getting banned? Sam and his wife are two of the better people here!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thank you and keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Jonathan

        You really can’t see how the War On Drugs has hurt our country and its people, can you. Your rigidness and lack of empathy must make you an unhappy human being. May I suggest that you research the effects on our population of the 40 years of “war” has had: a cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and $1 trillion. And for what? Is the end in sight? Will there ever be a “victory”? Will you ever realize that you don’t have the right to tell others what they can and cannot do?

        • http://naver samurai

          The only people harmed by the war are the many idiots that do drugs. If you’re going to play, you’re going to pay. Enough said! Second, what about something that has harmed the country, costs more money, and killed more Americans then that? What about the senseless killing of babies by abortion? So far, that has claimed 50 million lives, but has the war on drugs? No. I also am not telling people what to do, but just stating my opinion. You both are the same person, so knock it off. It only shows twice the ignorance. Since you have neither done drugs, nor have seen the effects first hand, you just need to be quiet and let the people who know talk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • suprstock

            JAPAN ?

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