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Cold Case Posse Determines Obama Documents To Be Forgeries

March 2, 2012 by  

Cold Case Posse Determines Obama Documents To Be Forgeries

Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse announced yesterday that the White House-released Long Form Birth Certificate for President Barack Obama was most likely a forgery, probably produced on a computer. Additionally, the President’s Selective Service card was also a computer-generated forgery.

To further muddle Obama’s nativity, the Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., are missing records for the week of Obama’s reported birth, including the dates Aug. 1-7, 1961.

“Absent a copy of a birth certificate, a legitimate copy of a birth certificate, we do not have a single document that proves Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States for that matter,” a spokesman for the Posse said. “We believe a full-blown investigation is warranted because the people of Maricopa County have been defrauded, and the people of Arizona have been defrauded.”

The Cold Case Posse is made up of former law enforcement officers and lawyers with law enforcement experience. They examined dozens of witnesses and hundreds of documents, as well as taking numerous sworn statements from witnesses around the world.

I have written before that Obama is not eligible to be President based on the birth certificate released by the White House because he is not a natural born citizen if his father was Barack Obama Sr. However, the Posse’s investigation reveals what many people have long believed: Obama may not have been born in the United States, and his entire history may be manufactured. Reporter Wayne Madsen wrote an exposé in 2010 that provided evidence that Obama may be a CIA creation.

According to the Posse spokesman, they have interviewed a retired government employee who was introduced to a young Obama in Bill Ayers’ mother’s yard. The government employee said he was told Obama was introduced as a foreign student they were helping to get an education in the United States. The spokesman said the individual is willing to come forward and make the claim.

Arpaio said he’s not accusing Obama of committing the fraud or even being aware of it, and the investigation will continue. However, the sheriff’s department has identified a person of interest in the birth certificate fraud.

What’s truly fascinating is the response of the reporters at the end of the news conference. Rather than ask questions about the evidence the Posse presented, they questioned Arpaio’s motives and those of the Posse members. That’s further evidence the mainstream media are not interested in getting to the bottom of Obama’s background and eligibility.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    I’ll let others comment on this topic. All I want to know is whether or not Joe will get invited to the White House for a beer and a sit-down. The odds don’t seem very good, but it’s possible.

    • http://naver samurai

      Alright Sherrif Joe! We knew it was a fake from the get go. This just adds more fuel to the fire to get him out. Get the Community Organizer of the United States out of office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Vicki

        It’s really fun to watch the people who laughed at birthers for being suspicious of the (obviously forged) Long form birth certificate come out in droves to comment. Sections that typically get around 1000 comments are past 3300 on several sites.

      • absolutely amazed

        The fake is Sheriff Joe, a rather despicable racist to say the very best. How about good old Rush Limbaugh – perhaps the most disgusting human being on the face of the earth. There is a flat out libel/slander case worth billions to the young woman he slandered, not to mention the women of America – and I surely hope he loses his 34 million dollar a year job spouting hatred from morning to night. He wants Sharia law, of all people, appears to want young women stoned for any sexual indiscretion or thought. And surely once all the unwanted Santorum/Limbaugh children are born, they are on their own and once they survive infancy without immunizations or health insurance, they need to get in the work force by 5 or 6 years old to start saving for their future health care costs and retirement – they need to learn that lesson early in life – leukemia could strike at any time, and the cure/treatment is going to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more. So they should get an early start earning and saving money. There are plenty of jobs in the mines for them, as there were in the 19th century, and we could once again compete with China if we put them back to work in the mills of New England and the Southeast. Boehner and McConnell are right there with Rush as they announced yesterday. Now I wonder if Newt’s wife Callista practiced birth control during their 8 year office tryst, and whether she should be excommunicated for that behavior – and perhaps Newt as well, for indulging in it. Why has she not become pregnant – she was certainly young enough when they began their affair.

      • Firefight

        Absolutely amazed,
        You talk like you know something that the rest of us don’t. Do you know Sheriff Joe Arpaio personally? I don’t think so. Do you know Rush personally? I don’t think so, but you sure talk like you do. Let me educate you on something really up close and personal. Sheriff Joe Arpaio has been to more political rodeos than you can count and it is all because he has the balls to sand up to individuals like you. Individuals who like to spout crap in their uneducated judgments. I know that Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not perfect. None of us are. But his dedication to his ELECTED job has proven out. Why the hell do you think he keeps getting re-elected? He fights the Jeramiah Wrights, the Jesse Jacksons and the Al Sharptons of this world and lets them know who is the boss in his county. When they add pressure and fuel to the fire, he does the same and he fires back with both barrels. What other Sheriff in this whole United States has had the balls to go nose to nose with this administration? Oh, that;s something else that you probably don’t know. For your continuing education, the Sheriff of ANY county is the ultimate law enforcement officer in that county. No one, not even the President of the United States can tell him what to do or how to run his county. That is a fact! In this fight to rid our nation of this tyrannical government, I am 100% behind Sheriff Joe Arpaio…….and, remember what I said about the line being drawn in the sand.

      • Stuart Shepherd

        Absolutely Amazed-
        Are you insane!? Or do you you just have that “I should have the special right to kill a baby” psychosis?!

      • http://INTERNETEXPLORER DELORES

        how in the hell can you do that when a child is born in this world it goes in2 the record books until you need it again i guess did you forged the dr. name on the birth c.well i guess ev1 b.c. must fored 2 he didn’t put us in 2 war’s most of all the jobs shut down up brush in the white house everything was shot 2 hell people lost money their homes all the money went on both war’sokay you want put a gop back in office go head do that i bet you we’ll be back in another war again @ who will fight in a war again think don’t want 2 hear no bull back

      • Vicki

        absolutely amazed amazes himself by writing:

        The fake is Sheriff Joe, a rather despicable racist to say the very best.

        How liberal of you. Ad hominem attack 1 and with no evidence.

        How about good old Rush Limbaugh – perhaps the most disgusting human being on the face of the earth.

        Ad homienm attack 2 and with no evidence

        There is a flat out libel/slander case worth billions to the young woman he slandered, not to mention the women of America –

        Proof by bald assertion (no evidence offered)

        and I surely hope he loses his 34 million dollar a year job spouting hatred from morning to night.

        Proof by bald assertion. Easy to disprove. Just read/listen to him and you will find little hatred of people. You might find some evidece of hatred for policies and actions and sins but you have to work at that.

        He wants Sharia law, of all people, appears to want young women stoned for any sexual indiscretion or thought.

        Now there is a libelous statement.

        And surely once all the unwanted Santorum/Limbaugh children are born, they are on their own

        Ad hominem attack and libel in one package. Oh and no evidence that Santorums children or Limbaughs children are or were unwanted. (Btw Rush LImbaugh has no children so there must be a different Limbaugh you are talking about. David pehaps?)

        and once they survive infancy without immunizations or health insurance, they need to get in the work force by 5 or 6 years old to start saving for their future health care costs and retirement

        Proof by bald assertion. Easily disproved by talking to or observing them or their children.

        (the rest of amazed amazement ignored as obvious nonsense. Well most of the above was too but served to illustrate just how.

      • eddie47d

        Joe Arpaio is as onerous as Andrew Breitbart (rest his soul). Both had vendettas against Obama and are proven to have an agenda. Taking Joe’s word on this issue isn’t going to happen and he is only seeking revenge.

      • Michael J.

        Absolutely Amazed,
        I think limp wristed, liberal commie progressives and normal people who want to, should most definitely take advantage of contraceptives. To bad Obama’s mother didn’t, in fact, too bad she didn’t swallow !!!

        BTW, nice paste-job.

      • Michael J.

        Eddie47d,
        Aren’t you just a little suspicious about the fact that Breitbart died of a heart attack just hours before the release of the purported end-all Obama expose? That at the ripe old age of 43, he was pronounced dead of natural causes in less than two hours of his passing despite not yet being examined by an official coroners report?

        Breitbart’s Obama expose video will reportedly be aired on the Sean Hannity show within the next 10 days. Whether or not it will be aired as Breitbart intended remains to be seen.

      • eddie47d

        Obviously Breitbart (rest his soul) suffered from hypertension and was a walking heart attack (he was jogging at the time). He was one stressed out dude who put more pressure on himself than he could handle. His obsessions were as wild as his accusations.

      • carolinerh

        Had hoped for more than we already knew about the birth certificate. Here is a man who can produce no documentation of his existence under ANY name and yet he is pushed to the White House – this means he is backed by some serious people who are slowly but surely taking over America. I would also comment that when liberals have nothing to back up anything, they resort to libelous or scandalous remarks verbally and in print as I have seen in several of comments herein. Children they are – whiny, afraid, and think that we are crazy and the Sheriff anyone else who loves this country is crazy or has a vendetta. Gee, people look at yourselves in the mirror and those epithets are yours, not ours! I do hope more comes out because I fear we won’t be allowed to vote in November due to more takeover! America is on the edge. Are we ready to protect our country?

      • http://gravatar.com/eddiew1 eddiew1

        Maybe Joe will end up suddenly dying…like Breitbart!! He was going to release video’s about Obama’s past!!
        Obama has the “right” to assassinate Americans! So if it’s useful to him…Goodbye Joe…and any other American who gets in his way!
        Hopefully he will DECLARE that Obozo, our Liar in Chief is ILLEGALLY in the White House!! Wonder if that would give Congress any guts?

      • AZ Don

        Absolutely amazed

        Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a fake? Well I live in Arizona, Maricopa County, and I have met Joe and I say you are wrong but I would like to know why and how you made that determination. Therefore, I have to ask you to prove your accusation.

        So you don’t like Rush Limbaugh. Guess most of what I said above goes here as well. As far as the most disgusting person on the face of the earth that position of infamy has already been taken by obama. While second place (a close second by the way) is taken by holder. The reason obama is the most disgusting person on the face of the earth is most obvious, but just in case you don’t know some of the reasons are: he is a compulsive liar, promotes class warfare, is attempting to fundamentally transform the United States of America into a socialist, communist, totalitarian dictatorship with himself as the permanent ruler. He makes no effort to hide the fact he wishes to confiscate all guns and would do away with the second amendment if he could. He has also illegally by-passed congress on more than one occasion. For Holder his is just a raciest assistance to all the above that obama does. The two of them together have done more to try to bring down this country so they can install their own government mentioned above. You it would seem are a part of the problem.

        You are really confused about Rush it seems. If anyone wishes to install sharia law it would be the current muslim in the white house. He was raised a muslim no matter what you say and that is a provable fact. Actually Rush would even fight for your rights just as many of us would. We do know however, you would not do as much for us.

        The rest of your rants here make no since at all (not that any of them did). Consequently I will offer no reply. Frankly I really do not think you are worth the first rebuttal but the others who read these pages are. Have a nice day.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie says “Joe Arpaio is as onerous as Andrew Breitbart (rest his soul). Both had vendettas against Obama and are proven to have an agenda. Taking Joe’s word on this issue isn’t going to happen and he is only seeking revenge.”

        DUH! eddie will never realize the obvious…does he think Obama has an agenda? Of course not because like all of the other sheep that blindly support Obama, he has been programmed to “follow without question” and accept…which he does so with a strong allegiance to his fellow liberals. His resistance to reality is beyond question. His comments are beyond reality.

        Breitbart to release the Obama Harvard tapes.
        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1839/818/NL/

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:

        Joe Arpaio is as onerous as Andrew Breitbart (rest his soul). Both had vendettas against Obama and are proven to have an agenda.

        Evidence dear. Evidence. Like Obama’s BC you can’t offer what does not exist.

      • Michael

        To Absolutely Amazed: in the interest of cooperation, and seeing as how you support abortion so strongly, I would be willing to allow you to use my pistol if you ever have the desire to “self abort”. I offer you mine because you seem to be the kind of extreme left liberal that rejects any constitutional rights that do not directly benefit you or your ideas. That means that you probably don’t own a gun. Just trying to be helpful. Call if you need me.

      • Dennis48e

        Vicki the only proof eddie ever has is his over active imigination.

      • eddie47d

        You betcha that Obama has an Agenda and so did Breitbart and so do all politicians.

      • Firefly

        I can’t say who Obama is or where he originated but it is clear that the CIA had nothing to do with making the long form. I have no doubt that if they had it would not be so easy to see that it’s a fake. By the way Obama may not know this himself. He actually seems to believe much of what he says. Unlike Clinton, though, he doesn’t seem to learn and that will be his downfall. It may also be ours.

        As for what Rush Limbaugh said about Sandra Fluke I don’t listen to talk radio, but I hope she surely is a fluke. I was surprised at how much promiscuous sex she was admitting to, and worry about the next generation if this is the kind of liberal lawyer who will be running the bureaucracy in a few years.

      • samurai

        Absolutely amazed? It is amazing for you to think that you are so smart, but in reality, you are very much the less intelligent one here. Lokk at this and weep:

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/sheriff-joe-arpaio-cold-case-posse-video-on-obama-selective-service-fraud/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. This proves that he did not sign up for selective service, as is required by law. Also, he couldn’t be drafted. You can’t draft immigrants into the military, now can you?

      • Ron

        Like the Reaganites use to say. America, love it or leave it.

      • Ron

        Birthers are idiots looking to jail Abe for shooting John Wilkes Booth. Good luck. How can grown a@@ people be so small minded??????????????? internet loonies.

      • Joe H

        Samurai,
        the thing that I caught real quick was the channel I caught the report of Breightbarts death on said “natural causes” about five or six times in about three minutes. were thet trying to convince us or themselves???

      • http://naver samurai

        I think they were trying to convince us, but failed miserably Joe H. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Sirian

      LOL!!! Now wouldn’t that be a hoot! LOL!!! Wait a sec, s c, what if Holder was sitting at the table too?? LOL!!!

    • Moosedrool

      They might slip him a mickey in that beer and give him the Brietbart treatment. Sheriff Joe needs to be careful and watch his back.

      • sunshineIQ

        The government knows more about all of us than we know about our elected president. How and why do people in power let him get away with it? Maybe they don’t want the Breitbart treatment. All that needs to be done is for Obama to be straightforward about his past. So much for transparency. Such chutzpah! In the casino the house always wins. The people lose.

    • http://love4you Gary Martin

      ”JOE” is Obamas # ONE ”PIRIAH”..he is too close to the truth revealing the most gigiantic fraud ever perpetrated on the American public…the press simply shrug and say ”so what”
      he is just too powerfull to have as your enemy…..Remember, Golberg’s book ”the slobbering love affair between the press and the OBAMA TWINS”…..SORRY i think you have the MESSIAH
      for another 4 years

    • JUKEBOX

      Why do you think Eric “The Weasel” Holder is trying to make a case against Sheriff Joe?

      • Jeep

        Tit for tat? Naww…couldn’t be…

      • green

        you are correct

    • Blue Devil

      To Whom It May Concern — I have, in My Documents folder, a Birth Certificate for one Barack Hussein Obama II. The Certificate number is 32018, and was issued by Coast Province General Hospital of Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya. It carries the stamp and signature of the hospital Chief Administrator, the Supervisor of Obstetrics, and the Attending Physician. It also has the footprint of the child, and what appers to be the embossed seal of the hospital. If anyone out there can tell me how to send it to this forum, I will post it. Otherwise, you will have to take my word for it.

      • RichE

        OMG! You should hand carry it to Joe. Do you need money for transportation?

      • Blue Devil

        RichE — I would be surprised if Sheriff Joe does not already have it!

      • Joe H

        Oh hell, rich instead of trying to make him look like a fool, tell him how to send it!! I would but I’m not computer savy! See what the guys got!! What can it hurt??

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        You mean this Kenyan Certificate Of Birth for Obama?

        http://www.theobamafile.com/_people/LucasSmith.htm

      • http://naver samurai

        Good one Jeff H., fellow patriot. Let’s keep up the good fight for this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Deerinwater

          I hope you didn’t anybody anything for it!

      • AZ Don

        If you are talking about the one with the foot print, I have it also. I suspect Joe does as well. I live in Arizona and would be glad to hand deliver it if he doesn’t.

        Keep in mind these guys did it the right way, they sat out to try to prove he was entitled to be president. They found he may not be. Many left wing extremist will attempt to discredit Joe and the cold case posse but it will not work.

    • Dick Stumpf

      THESE PEOPLE ARE SICK PUPPIES. DON’T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM.

      • samurai
      • http://www.facebook.com/Branded969 Vic Bailey

        It’s funny that EVERY COUNTRY in the WORLD knows that Bama was born in Kenya except the STUPID people in AMERICA that think this MORON can walk on water! Bama wants to be a Dictator at any cost, even if it means killing all of the people that will NOT side with him! The American people need to wake up before it’s too late! Semper Fi.

    • trackfodder

      Gee maybe AZ will get 8.4 billion to build a couple atomic generating plants too if they drop it. I hope the Bilderbergs don’t take out Joe with a “heart attack” too.

    • Joe H

      sc,
      I’m more worried about Sheriff Joe living THROUGH this expose!! Look at Breightbart!

      • astella1

        I am all for sheriff Joe,some of us already knew about Oboma not being from The Good Old USA,thats why we did not vote for him.Yes,i am worried about Joe’s safty.Oboma has cost the american people more than all the other president’s put togather,don’t think this is true?,look it up>Why is Oboma stilll in OUR White House?

    • Greg

      In this video Obama admits he is not a citizen of the USA, He does admit he is a citizen of Kenya and he is a muslim, Listen and get mad, real mad:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8

      • Judy Behm

        Please send the link to the sheriffs possee. I’m not sure they have seen it.

    • http://gravatar.com/wandamurline wandamurline

      I believe a little quote from Obama says it all “If someone will not bring all the information forward, it means that they have something to hide”. Well now, what about bringing forward the school records and the passports from the 80′s and let us look at the real, original birth certificate that is supposedly held in the Department of Births in Hawaii. Bring it forward so you have nothing to hide, Mr. Obama.

    • http://none don crites

      Obama is a fraud, He was born in Keyna which has been proven. In short he should be run out of the jWhite House and placed in Lavenorth (the big house) as soon as possible so we can once again have our country back.

      • http://crybabies crybabies

        Who took your F-en country and where did they take it???? I’M looking out side window and is stil there. maybe you fools need glasses

      • Bellagram

        It has *been proven* that he was born in Kenya? By whom? Where is the proof – proof that has not been debunked. Someone said something about his selective service document being forged – get an independent examiner to corroborate these claims and more people may pay attention. Does not help that this same person commented that immigrants cannot be drafted since it makes no difference since the draft went out when the President was around 12 years old, so yep, he could not have been drafted.

        • Deerinwater

          It’s Obama Sir name that’s confuses them, if his mother had named him Amos Moses, he’d fly under their radar. ;-)

          • Bellagram

            I think you are right. Barack H Obama Sr. certainly was born in Kenya (or someplace in Africa), and his mother (President’s paternal grandmother) very certainly was present at *her* Barack’s birth (kind of hard not to be present at one’s child’s birth – if you are the mom). But that is too sensible for some people to grasp.:)

  • simian pete

    We got to look at this realistically. President Obama, as we all know, is now President…

    I’m saying that he “passed” all the checks for eligibility – in a legal sense. Y’know what I’m saying Bob ?

    Will Sheriff’s Arpaio’s fact finding investigation pay off ? And do the people of Arizona really give a hoot, You know, the same people who re-elected John McCain and gave Mitt Romney the win in the Repub primary ?

    But then again I hear from friends and family that Mr. Obama’s eligibility in some states, to be on the ballot, may be getting jepordized …

    Like scientist, we are observing this experiment – how will it all end. This experiment will end in November 2012 …

    • Richard McDonald

      Did he really pass the test?, was his father a natural born citizen of the united States? , did the Democrate congress acually look into the requirements by the constitution to be eligible for the office of president of the United States before they nominated Obomma? If they did then they completely ignored the constitution of the United States, as Oboma is doing now as president.

      • Corrine

        He was not vented….He got the pass from Palosi….this is treason and they ALL have to be hung !!!

      • Mercy

        I think anyone even attempting to change or bend the U.S.Constitution should be severly fined and sent to prison for a very long time. (No Exceptions)…..But with the collective thought of the Extreme Liberials in this country I hate to think what will happen to our forefathers groundwork for the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave in the near future.

      • Joe H

        corrine,
        you think P-lousy looks bad NOW?? Picture her after about ten years in a max security!!!! EEWWWWW!!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/wandamurline wandamurline

        It was my understanding and I may be wrong, but Hawaii did not sign off on his eligibilty….Pelosi did. When the birth certificate came up during the campaign, Obama and Hiliary went to a lot of trouble to make certain that McCain was certified as
        “natural born” that way, they took the question off the table for Obama….it is called a “distraction”…it took the question of Obama’s natural born status and put it on McCain because he was born on a foreign military base. This is what the Demorats do….change the subject and get your focussed on another.

    • Firefight

      semian, You say that he passed all the checks? Are you saying that he was properly vetted to be on the ballot for President? I don’t think so. It has been pointed out more than once that none of the states and no one, not even the congress vetted him. All of this was conveniently ignored. I still want to know why. Obama is not a legal President and most of us, who have taken the time to really examine this issue, know it.

      • Christin

        Firefight,

        Oh my gosh, did (any of) you click on the “CIA Creation” in bob’s article above???

        It will blow your mind. A MUST read.
        Our governments and others all “plotting” and “scheming” to keep this leader from rising up, those people from having power, or to hide money moving it from here to there.
        Just so evil.

        And according to the report oblama and his WHOLE family was involved… READ it.

        Oh, what’ a tangled web was woven.’… and still is…

      • Vicki

        I know the CIA is good at keeping secrets but the scope of this conspiracy, if it exists at all, is mind boggling.

      • JUKEBOX

        Obama’s own writings and speeches “PROVE” that he was not properly vetted!

      • simian pete

        I’m just saying , Obama IS President right now. It seems he had “proof” enough .. you notice the quotation marks on “proof” or “passed”. Maybe I should have used dollar signs with quotation marks , Like “pa$$ed” or ” $$PROOF$$” . Throwing $$MONEY$$ at political problems helps them disappear ..

        I wish they throw some cash my way ! HA HA HA !

        What an event ! Watching Obama get re-elected ! I don’t even have to buy tickets….

      • Jude

        I agree he is not a legal president but an illegal immigrant. So why had he been there in the first place and why has he not been impeached. He has got to go if not sooner than in 2012 election.

    • Rural Dweller

      With Obama’s past associations, Ayers etc., he could not pass a classified clearance, yet
      he is Commander in Chief. Figure that one!

    • samurai

      It is impossible to pass legally if you are hiding your entire past. If he is legal, then tell me what passport he used to go to Pakistan in the early 80′s? Americans were not allowed to go there at that time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. The Indiana Supreme Court is currently reviewing this matter.

    • Vigilant

      simian pete,

      Your posting is the highest level of common sense I’ve seen yet.

      Even Bob Livingston misses the point when he says, “Reporter Wayne Madsen wrote an exposé in 2010 that provided evidence that Obama may be a CIA creation.”

      What does that have to do with the validity of the birth certificate? While Madsen’s exposé may be entirely legitimate, it dos not address the validity of the birth certificate, unless I missed something in the (overly lengthy) writing of Wayne Madsen.

      The whole birther argument is futile and a waste of time. Nothing’s going to change, and the correct channel for our energies should be removing Obama from the White House in November, not going down blind alleys in search of elusive conspiracy.

  • Anthony

    Apparently people named Joe are causing problems for obama. Joe the plumber, Joe the Sheriff, and Joe the Biden. I think it would be good to collect as many joes as possible to surround him. Maybe this would cause him to resign? Just a thought.

    • Ted Crawford

      Hopefuly Anthony, but only after firing Joe the Biden!

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Do not forget the uproar caused by South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson who dared to call Obama a liar… :)

      • samurai

        He was right and had no need to apologize. :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Deerinwater

          Hmm? For a man that would claim to be a combat vet but in fact has never been in combat with anything meaner then a woman or a wasp. I wouldn’t place much credit in what Joe “the liar” Wilson has to say if I were you.

  • Barley Hopps

    Forged birth certificate with inconsistent information about which hospital he was supposedly born in, use of the term African American rather than Negro to describe his father’s race, a social security card linked to Massachusetts, a trip to Pakistan when it was off limits for American citizens, no information about his school years at Occidental or Columbia. He is a fake himself! We need to get him out of the White House, telepromptly!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      I believe the ss number would have to have been from Conn.

    • Jim S

      You are correct Barley. That was the first thing I noticed when I looked at the fake Obama birth certificate. The term African American originated in 1987. Obama’s birth certificate, were he born in the U.S. in 1961, would have said Negro. Anyone around at that time would know that. Plus, he is not a natural born citizen because his father was not, at any time, an American citizen. That makes him ineligible to be President.

      The liberals that want to argue can argue all they want, but these are the simple facts and are indisputible. Anyone can do a little research and find these facts to be correct. Of course, once you’ve tasted the Kool Aid, the facts don’t matter. It’s all about the liberals being right at all costs. Damn the facts. The rest of us that don’t follow their line of thinking and support their savior are all just a bunch of stupid, redneck, racists (or whatever other names they can come up with to throw our way).

      • http://home Donna Cox

        His mother is a citizen so he is also. As long as 1 parent is the child is. Believe me I’m not defending this bozo just a fact about citizenship. I thought he was an idiot in 2004, when he was the “beloved” speaker at the Dem Convention. My mind hasn’t been changed.
        I would like to get a copy of the original “Dreams from my Father”, it is rather different from the 2004 REVISED edition.That book alone, tells a intelligent person everything they need to know about..”I am the smartest person I know obama”.

    • Vigilant

      Barley Hopps says, “Forged birth certificate with inconsistent information about which hospital he was supposedly born in, use of the term African American rather than Negro to describe his father’s race, a social security card linked to Massachusetts,”

      Spend a bit of time actually looking at the BC instead of relying on that website for faulty information.

      Nowhere on the certificate does it say “African-American.” It lists the father’s race as “African,” (which is indeed odd) and it lists the mother’s race as “Caucasian.” Find the term “African American” on the BC and I’ll buy you a brew made of barley hops.

      Secondly, the name of the hospital is correct. The 1978 merger became “Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children,” which makes sense. Obama was ostensibly born in the “Maternity & Gynecological Hospital,” indeed a separate entity from the children’s hospital.

      Third, the origin of the SS card has no bearing on the validity of the birth certifcate.

      Fourth, I indeed believe there are many unanswered questions about his past that need to be explored, but the birth certificate is a dead end. The birth announcements in the Honolulu Advertiser and the Star Bulletin at the time are sufficient for me, in fact they are GREATER proff of birth than any BC, phony or not. .

  • Dennis

    Obama is a fraud he is a Muslim terrorist

    • madog2

      Anyone running for or holding office would go to the extreme to prove they were eligible to hold that office. But not the pompus egotisticle muslim lying imposter in the WH. He has continuely laughede of the claims of his forign birth. He really thinks that he is above the law and that any crime he commits is his right without question. The sad part is that the demwitocraps and leftist media and hollywood freaks have made it possible for him to get away with it. Of course we can’t rule out the candy a*sed nutless republican that shake in their shoes at the mention of the imposter.

      • Christin

        madog2,

        Click on the “CIA Creation” in Bob’s article above as see who placed O in this position. According to the report his whole family, O’s father Sr, mother, Grandmother, and step father were all operatives. Files are missing on the days O is expected to have come to America…

        This goes WAY DEEP in the gov… way deeper than his birth & school record cover up.

        PLEASE read the report under “CIA Creation” in Bob’s article.

      • Vigilant

        Christin, I speed read it, and found nothing pertaining to validity (or lack thereof) of Obama’s birth certificate.

      • Vigilant

        Greg, I’ve seen it before. and that first clip is the most amateurish attempt at dubbing I’ve ever seen. Are you that dense as to not see it? Show me ONE closeup of his lip movements when he was supposed to be saying the key words, and I’ll kiss your backside. It’s a false clip and you know it.

        It’s bogus, doctored clips like this that demonstrate the gullibilty of some people, and the willingness of others to fabricate bogus videoclips that hurt, rather than help, the birther movement.

        Had he actually said this, do you not think the media everywhere would have jumped on it as proof positive?

        Moreover, my posting above addressed neither proof nor disproof of the contention. Read it again and you’ll see that I was saying the CIA expose did not address the birth certificate issue at all, it’s merely a diversion.

  • Dee

    Just hope they can get it proven that obummer is ineligible to be president before this election. He has done enought damage to our country.

    • Deerinwater

      Well, ~ it’s done with “facts” Dee. Hard facts, facts that can be validated and proven to the satisfaction of the courts and seated judgeship’s.

      As soon as you’ve got them, tell the people that can do something about it. Until that time, you appears to be attempting to be circumventing America’s general election process with smoke and mirrors. But only a malcontent that might run in the company of the likes of J. Wilkes Booth’s, Richard Lawrence or Frank Eugene Corde of the nation.

      • Michael J.

        Deerinwater,
        Bolderdash !!! Proof allready exist, with more being released on a regular basis. Courts are working in concert to quash the truth. Like the recent fiasco in Georgia where Orly Taitz was set-up to fail by Clinton appointed, Muslim Judge Malihi who purposefuly raised the hopes of those wishing to expose the truth of Obama’s eligibility, only to publicly cut the legs out from under Taitz’s law suit using a baseless ruling that some say resembles Sharia Law.

        Neither blustering bloviation or progressive pontification will prevent
        the continued release of the truth behind Barack Hussein Obama II aka Barry Soetoro and his origins, from being aired eventually.

        • Deerinwater

          Of course! These “facts” are being generated as we speak, exactly as you say they are. people have been working at it for 3 years! My guess it’d take a fork truck to lift it all.

          Bring ‘em! That should keep you occupied for a while. But why not apply you efforts to sound thinking and the merits of the issues, working towards the selection process that confines itself to the ballot box?

          Let us assume for one moment that you are correct, During WWll, we had many under age patriots sign up to be soldiers and go to war. Should we with draw out victories over Germany & Japan on technicality?

          The shear absurdity of you thinking is driven by something you are not forthcoming with for reasons that you cannot share.

          The process of elimination make your motives rather clear without you offering me another word Michael J. and that goes for all of you that promote this insidious claim of illegibility.

          If a sitting US Senator can’t run for President in a Nation comprised of 95% immigrants something is seriously wrong with such rules to began with.

          This is not child play, there is no take backs and do overs. IF you have something, bring it and show your face. A process had been provided for it, but any fraud will be uncover and exposed, those found guilt will face due process.

          Quit hiding in the mob, ~ come forward with it.

          The GOP would love to grind the Federal government to a halt another year, while they still can’t find their a$$ with both hands.

          This is a run out the clock strategy, to win a shallow victory by default. Maybe that’s the kind of government that you want. But not I.

      • Michael J.

        Deerinwater,
        I only supply logical thinking to the hopelessly indoctrinated like yourself once, you’re on your own. But I will leave you with one final thought:
        According to the late Yuri Bezmenov, once the diseased utopians awaken to the realism that the wet dream utopia they strived for will only be enjoyed by the elites they supported, they will become the regimes staunchest enemies and therefore among the first to be eliminated. Useful idiots who have out lived their usefulness.

        • Deerinwater

          Yea, it’s getting hard for a hobbit to leave the house much less the Shire anymore.

        • Deerinwater

          I was thinking about that same thing where “W” had you guys marching lock step to Iraq.

          “This will end to no good”, why can’t they see?”

          But now instead of hating Blunder Bush, you hate all government and anyone that, says, “Hey! wait just a dog gone minute” !

          So what you are telling has already came true and you are living proof!

          Only the men in white suits and butterfly net has not came to gathered you up yet. I’m not going to tell them where you’re at. Shhhhh!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

        Michael is right on target. Once Stalin gained control it took him about 5 years to completely eliminate the Bolshevik hierarchy along with millions of their fellow travelers. It did take him a little longer to take out Trotsky who fled Russia. Once entrenched the Stalin sycophants bled Russia dry for the next 50 years. Once you have destroyed the Constitution and its protections all it takes is an ambitious colonel to create a tyranny that wil last for another 50 years until it too collapses. Of course, liberals neither read or understand history or the human condition. They are usually too buzzed out on dope and grass to see reality.

  • tim

    The state of georgia and the court system have already proved that obamas birth certificate and social security card is a forgery!!! When is someone gonna get the balls to file charges against this man?????

    • Firefight

      Tim, Our political leaders are not really running things. The ones who put them in office are. Our political leaders are their puppets. Chew on this one for a while. Let’s say, you’ve been handed a really cushy job. You are now earning, NO, not earning…..RECEIVING, a really nice six digit income, you live in a beautiful home in an exclusive neighborhood and your kids now get to go to the school of their choice. You dine at the finest restaurants, rub elbows with movie stars and the latest hot recording artists and you have an exclusive table and membership at the best country club in your state. All you have to do is follow some really simple rules. You don’t go against the wishes of those who handed you this cushy job and you cast you votes where they tell you to. That’s all you have to do and you can retire in four years with the same six digit income you have been handed when they put you into that cushy job. Do you get the picture now? As I see it, the ones who put these political leaders in office are the head of the snake, not the politicians. To kill the snake, you don’t cut off its tail, you know?

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        Excellent synapses, Firefight.

        The only way this all can be fixed is if we as a Nation/World begin talking about that which is not talked about…and that is the secret society that exists all around us & is in most all nations across the globe. This group has sown themselves into the very fabric of their host society while their primary loyalty remains with each other & to the oaths they had to swear when they joined their secretive order.

        Once you start looking down the rabbit hole…it begins to boggle your mind on how complex the conspiracy is. Conspiracy Theories stop being theories when the facts are supported by what History has recorded. There is a great deal going on, my brothers & sisters and these forces are trying hard to rewrite History, right before our eyes.

        Once you brush up against the Bilderbergs, the Rothschilds, the Rockerfellers, the Illuminati/Masonic equation during your research…you will begin to see how it all spiderwebs into one another. All of these forces are pushing for the same thing…a one world corporation in control of everything. They are eroding the countries they exist in on purpose to weaken them and to help bring about this utopian, feudalistic society that they wish to implement. Unfortunately, they have gathered such wealth and have placed their children into key positions throughout the world that they are very much in control of the world stage on many levels.

        Humanity is not being allowed to devolope unmolested. Things are the way they are on purpose…this is done with intent to sow discord & to divide the masses. This weakens us and helps allow them to set the stage for their false flag attacks…such as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor. Don’t even think for a minute those were not staged…or allowed to happen.

        My research keeps bringing me back to the same equation & the same forces who are moving & shaking the major events in the world. Do your own research and start reading between the lines.

        A great Conspiracy is occuring and it’s not a theory any more…their money/power trail is plain to see & follow. Also, follow the death trails of those who have spoken out against this vast force…use the internet to gather this information while you can. It looks likely that “they” will sensor it soon…as they are trying to pass legislature to do just that.

        Obama is just a symptom of the Virus that has infected the body of humanity. We are all being misled & lied to by the people who are supposed to be our leaders. They are but the puppets who dance on the strings of those who are actually in control of our world.

        God Bless.

      • Christin

        Brother Patriot,

        Yes, I am in agreement with you.

        The “CIA Creation” report in Bob’s article mentions ‘The Kennedy’s', too… should be no surprise there… what a scam as sc would say.

      • TeenAgedRepublican

        BrotherPatriot Said,

        “Once you brush up against the Bilderbergs, the Rothschilds, the Rockerfellers, the Illuminati/Masonic equation during your research…you will begin to see how it all spiderwebs into one another. All of these forces are pushing for the same thing…a one world corporation in control of everything. ”

        Us Mormons call them Secret Combinations, and their leader knows Cain’s secret. check it out in the Book of Mormon. This is the real deal.

      • Michael J.

        Brother Patriot,
        All roads lead back to the Rothschild’s family. Napoleon knew this, and since then they have only become stronger. They have allready ammassed all the world’s wealth that matters, and are now focused on the only thing left…, Control and the dwindling of the massess to a managable figure, about 500 million. Once acheived, the rest of the planet deemed off-limits to human commoners will become the envisioned Garden of Eden playground in the elites wet-dream utopia.

        Obama is just a local symptom of a global illness, we need to set our sights higher. My Dad taught me that when picking a puppy out of a new litter to playfully poke at the pupps with a stick. Most puppies will bite the stick, but the smart puppies will go after the hand that wields the stick. We need to be smart puppies.

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        I’m in in agreement with your post, Michael J.

        Your reference to the 500 million is in regards to the Georgia Guidestones. For those of you who do not know what he was talking about, please do your research using them as your keywords during the search.

        The Georgia Guidestones…America’s Stone Henge. (As a matter of fact, about 3 years ago…it was those stones that began my education regarding the Conspiracy that is occuring to us & the rest of the world).

        Most people do not want to believe the truth. It’s much easier to just try & exist w/out “rocking the boat”. However, if you do this…”put your head in the sand”…then know that you are signing all your loved ones (your childrens children)…you are signing them all up for a world that will not have the freedoms that America is trying to generate for the common man. It will be a version of the 1984 book/movie and there will be the social elite who enjoy the “special treatment & benefits”…while the common man will become the cattle that feeds their every whim.

        I do not believe God will allow this to happen and as a former special forces operative…neither will I or the others out there like me.

        God Bless those who are fighting the good fight.

  • Flo

    The retired government employee that was introduced to a young Obama/Soetoro/Bounel/Soebarah/Shebazz in Bill Ayres mothers yard says he was told he was a foreign student looking for an education is the only new thing I have seen. It seems he is willing to come forward with this if he doesn’t mysteriously die or vanish first.

    • Vicki

      With the NDAA 2012 currently in effect, a mysterious disappearance is certainly easy to do.

  • Jesse Fell

    Barking mad, all of you! You are naive fools, too — eager to swallow any tall tale that supports what you want to believe in the first place. What a bunch of delusional rubes!

    • Jay

      Jesse…Take a deep breath and drink some more Kool Aid. You’ll sleep well…

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Jesse don’t forget to add the VODKA

      • Jesse Fell

        and Kool Aid is all I drink, which is why I, at least, am sober.

      • http://naver samurai

        You may be sober Jessie, but you are an ostrich with your head buried somewhere warm and moist and it sur isn’t the beach either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • RaffaeleCafagna

      Jesse you are the delusional; why don`t you ask your illegal usurper corrupt liar muslim president to come forward and Show all his papers, this action , that your president has refused time after time, will solve all the Problems; it will put The Birthers to rest.
      Jesse go head and ask your president to Comply with the Law, Rules, Regulations of our Nation, to Show all papers he has Locked up. If your president is not an illegal usurper, why does he refuse to show all his sealed records. ??????Please ask him ,he may listen to you.

    • castaway

      Jesse Fell and hit his head on the cement, and now thinks the (offensive word removed) in the White House is the great Massiah.

    • http://Yahoo Val

      Jessie, take a look at what Obama says about himself….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded

      • Judy Behm

        You should send the video link to sheriff Arpio.

    • Firefight

      Jesse, Naive fools? What are we so naive about? You choose to believe everything the progressives are feeding you and yet you are not naive? Who placed you in charge of determining who is naive? I simply say, look at all the evidence and which has been presented in this case and if you can honestly say that you can believe in something or someone who has brought nothing to the table, then you are the one who is naive. But that’s OK. Some people believe that extraterrestrials are green.

      • rightsfighter

        Who put you in charge to determine who is naive? The presidents mother was a white girl fromYTexas. She never left the USA before the president was born. Where do you think the president was born? Somewhere in the air , perhaps in the ocean? He certainly was not born abroad – like I said his mother never left the USA before he was born- Just plain logic. It appears to me that you join the forces of the racism as well. You are trying to spread hate among your fellow citizen. Really not something to be proud of!

      • rightsfighter

        Something else. Do you call the statement from the State of Hawaii a lie? You better think twice before you do that.
        You really think -and perhaps your body the sheriff thinks the same thing- that the State of Hawaii would purposely falsify doc’s on the computer like the sheriff says?
        Just ask yourself, what could have been the purpose to do that?
        I assume that the Republicans do not like an African American in the WH.
        The question is: Can this president ( no matter who he is) do a better job than the previous one? Things , that has been deteriorating in the past cannot just be fixed overnight! All takes time. So far things are getting better, slowly indeed, but progress is being made. Look at what ex president Clinton did. Look at what ex president Reagon did.
        I am very sorry for you being so short-sighted!

      • G. H.

        How do we know all “the evidence” isn’t fake? Why do you hate your president? Why are only black men mentioned in one of the previous comments about Sheriff Joe? All respect for this country has been lost within the social media such as this one….we cannot be called the United States anymore. And you are contributing to the disunity by making ridiculous claims that our President, and yes your President too, is a terrorist Muslim. So far from the truth that anything you say cannot be deemed credible…

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Firefight…this is mostly the result of a public education. The true purpose of our public school system in reality has more to do with control than it does with learning.

        John Taylor Gatto has 30 years of teaching experience in the “public school” system and has written extensively on the subject. Two very revealing and recommended reads are “The Underground History of American Education: A School Teacher’s Intimate Investigation Into the Problem of Modern Schooling ” and “Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling” both available at Amazon or thru Gatto’s website.
        http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/aboutus/john.htm

      • samurai

        You are right Firefight. Just ignore rightsfighter and G.H. as they are obviously well paid trolls. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Michael J.

        Firefight,
        Add two more names to the useful idiots list. Rightsfighter and GH.

    • Vicki

      Jesse Fell says:

      Barking mad, all of you! You are naive fools, too — eager to swallow any tall tale that supports what you want to believe in the first place.

      Projecting much? Judging from the lack of supporting evidence the people who accept the tale of Obama’s past (with no supporting evidence btw) would seem to be the naive fools.

      • Jesse Fell

        Actually, this should be a simple matter to resolve. If the long form birth certificate never existed in fact, as a piece of paper, then the .jpg or other image that we see of it was, from the beginning, a digital image, and was created in digital editor such as Photoshop.

        Such digital images are fairly easy to identify as such. Digital editors create characteristic patterns of pixels that are distinguishable from the patterns in digital photographs.

        If Sheriff Arpaio and friends analyzed the pixels in the image that we have been shown, and found it to a product of a digital editor, I would like to see this analysis. Kindly post a link to his analysis of the pixellation of the image — that is what will settle the issue for me.

      • vicki

        Jesse Fell says:

        Actually, this should be a simple matter to resolve.

        It is indeed. All Obama has to do is give Hawaii permission to let investigators look at the original certificate or the microfilm if they converted to microfilm (would show its place in the roll too)

        If the long form birth certificate never existed in fact, as a piece of paper, then the .jpg or other image that we see of it was, from the beginning, a digital image, and was created in digital editor such as Photoshop.

        Not sure what .jpg you are referring to. Most of us have only seen the PDF that the whitehouse posted on its website. That pdf is the one that was determined to be a probable forgery.

        Such digital images are fairly easy to identify as such. Digital editors create characteristic patterns of pixels that are distinguishable from the patterns in digital photographs.

        If Sheriff Arpaio and friends analyzed the pixels in the image that we have been shown, and found it to a product of a digital editor, I would like to see this analysis. Kindly post a link to his analysis of the pixellation of the image — that is what will settle the issue for me.

        Since no jpg image exists we only have the PDF. Here is some of the analysis of that PDF, a product of a digital editor btw.

        http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/investigators-now-in-hunt-for-forger/

        Hope this helps settle the issue for you.

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        Vicki…you are one sharp cookie.

        I thank God that you & others like you are on our side. :D

        I’m very appreciative of all your work here…you are an excellent source of information. I hope you became a Delegate for your region. We just did our Caucus and I did what I could do to help vote the Ron Paul supporters in & as back ups.

        Myself…I had to omit myself from that honorable service. I have learned far to much and couldn’t trust myself not to begin speaking about what is “really” going on…I just don’t think the public at large is ready to be hit in the face with what I would say if I “popped” off. LoL.

        But what I did notice & heard was this…our Caucus turn out was 5 TIMES the amount that they expected to see. This is the beginning of the awakening…most didn’t know what was happening or why…they just knew that Obama had to go. They unfortunately, will back whatever Republican is nominated for the flag ship…not knowing that if it’s not Ron Paul, it will be just another Bilderberg/NWO stooge. I’m in agreement that anyone will be better than Obama…but the only clear choice for a true American…is the one who has the most consistant voting record in accordance to the Constitution of the United States. That document is what we have to strive to return to…& Ron Paul is the man to take us there given our choices.

        Dr. Ron Paul…he is the only TRUE choice for America.

        God Bless.

    • hipshotpercusion

      My brother who was a graphic Artist for over 20 years, laughed his A$$ off when he saw both supposed Birth Certificates. Also, I was born in 1951 and have my Birth Certificate and under race for my parents, it says WHITE! Keep drinking the Jonestown Kool-Aid.

      • Jesse Fell

        I want a link to an analysis of the pixellation of the image of the long form birth certificate that we have been shown. That should make it pretty clear whether what we have seen is a photograph of a birth certificate that existed on paper, or whether we are seeing something created in a digital editor.

        That analysis would resolve at least one source of doubt.

      • vicki
    • http://httpaol.com sean murrey ILLInio

      You are the one swallowing thier lies and drinking the lib kool-aid.

    • samurai

      Haven’t made that popping sound yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • mark

    THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE WAS GROOMED BY H. KISSINGER.1981 HE FIRST MEET KISSINGER, GOT HIM TO SCHOOL THROUGH FOREIGN STATUS, BY AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS.

  • Bob Rice

    Cmon,We all think that obama (small letters on purpose)is a phony,we need a FEDERAL JUDGE to make known that obama is a PHONY,FAKE,or a muslim community organizer,that snorted coke.NOVEMBER 2012 is coming,im not sure yet,who i will vote for,BUT,IT WONT BE obama………..

  • http://Aol Tessie3940

    Anthony – Loved the comment about the “Joe’s”. LOL
    Barkey Hopps – the African American for race was always the “Tell” for me.

    • Bill in Jersey

      The “tell?” Obama’s father was African and his mother was American. He wasn’t born to two American Negro parents, so the notation refers to his parents’ origins, not simply their race. Any forgery would try to be more “authentic” by using “Negro.” Sheriff A is a joke, just like his “inquiry” by, huh? A posse? C’mon! It’s the 21st century.

      • LibRep

        Great excuse, Bill, but still flawed. I am not a birther, but I have always felt there was something amiss about Obama. The CIA operative argument seems compelling, if what I read was true that his mother was in the CIA back in ’61 when Bush Sr was running it at the time. Sort of explains to me why Obama kept Dubya’s policies in place when he took over.

        Personally, at this point I could care less about his status, as long as the 5 letter word “FORMER” is in front of “President Obama” come January 2013.

      • LibRep

        Make that 6 letter word. Apparantly I lose my ability to count on Friday’s. Must be an old habit with beers from when I was in the Marines.

      • Jay

        Bill in Jersey:

        Hmm, African American refers to the race category for Mr. and Mrs. Obama? In 1961, the common designation would have listed them as ‘Negro’ and ‘Caucasian’ NOT African and American!

        I understand there are other issues on that certificate which also push the credibility factor…..

      • hipshotpercusion

        Just ignore Bill from Jersey. One would have to question the intelligence of anyone from a State that would allow Frank Lautenberg to illegally usurp a Senate seat and elect liar thief John Corzine as the Gov.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Bill in Jersey:
        Right on with your assessment. To everyone else, what in God’s name, is wrong with you all!?! The man was born in the U.S. for the last time. Will you’ll stop reading/watching Machurian Candidate books and movies!?! You know, this is the equivalence from the book written by conservative talk show host Tony Brown, called Black Lies,White Lies in the mid 1990′s. This book ,basically, exposed white supremacy with Afro-centrist propaganda for what it was. Anyway, there was a chapter in the book about conspiracy thinking. He stated when people have to be “in touch with reality”. Furthermore, when people jump to conspiracies, thay tend to be “guilty of something”. Well, unfortunately, it appears supporters of this website are guilty of something. It’s called paranoid ignorance.
        Now, we need to live in the real world. The president is a legitimate citizen, if you want to condemn him , then attack his policies. This type of talk will only help the President get re-elected. Unless, this website is, truly, undercover Obama fans. Thanks!!

        • RichE

          Re-elect Obummer? Rut-roh! You figured it out, but there’s nothing you can do. The ‘far-righters’ are too easly distracted.

      • http://liberty Tony

        Hey RichE.:
        You said it, not me. Rut-roh!!

      • samurai

        Wrong answer! He is not a natural born citizen of the U.S., which is required by the Constitution. He would need both of his parents to be American citizens to be such. Second, his mother was only 18-19 years old and too young to pass citizenship onto Obama bin Laden. Why do you people constantly spout lies, rhetoric, and innuendo? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • factnotrhetoric

    If any of us evaluate this information as legitimate, it’s up to us to pass this information along to the general public, through mainstream news media.

    The Mainstream News media will obviously not touch this story because it would mean Saudi Puppet Obama would withhold part of his 1 Billion advertising campaign contributions from that network. Mainstream News Media doesn’t want to get cut off.

    But Mainstream Media does allow reader comments on every article. This is Mainstream Media’s way of allowing the truth out, without being cut off from the Billion Dollars in Advertising Fees.

    Sometimes, these reader comments are read more often than the original article.

    Our comments, on mainstream news articles, are just as important as alternative news sources like Personal Liberty. I think our comments might even be more important because Personal Liberty reaches only one group of readers, like you and me.

    If you do comment on a mainstream media, read all of the follow up posts and reply to any dissenters. It’s important NOT TO LET Obama’s Paid Crews have the last word in any reader’s discussion. There are Obama Paid Professionals in every Reader Discussion group.

    The Obama Paid Professionals are easy to beat in rebuttals. They don’t like facts, they rely on name calling and weird accusations. Facts, when presented, make them look ridiculously stupid and ill-informed.

    • factnotrhetoric

      “absolutely amazed” above is the typical Obama Paid Professional in any reader discussion group.

      See the name calling, and lack of any pertinent facts.

    • jrcat918

      The “main stream media” are not going to criticize because they have their lips planted so firmly on his but until he doesn’t need them any more. by that time it will be way too late!

      • hoov

        Well said, just like he uses everybody to gain ultimate power and then kick then to the curb. America fell asleep years ago and the Communists/Marxists have been forging ahead. America, please wake up!

      • samurai

        Hey, this just in. Maybe some, not all, of the media is beginning to slowly wake up. Look at this:

        http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/media-finally-paying-attention-to-eligibility/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://home Donna Cox

      Point: Per INS..obama is a citizen because his mother is a citizen. Natural born does not mean both parents are citizens, it can be only ONE parent. Point: Per INS..a child born to a non-citizen parent, when issued a birth certificate by the birth county or state is a citizen based on the issurance of that birthcertificate. I did not believe it either but I had to research the citizenship issue in my employment. INS regulates the definition of citizenship not the constitution.
      I am disgusted beyond belief at obama. Everything about him screams fraud, liar, phony, intellictually inferior. He is conditioned to do certain things make certain statements but when he has to think and speak with out benefit of per conditioning he babbles like an idiot. I believe the support for his presidency came from countries other than the U.S. Remember he never did share were his campaign donations came from, just told us that payments made over the internet could not be traced. dah

  • Andy Witouski

    THIS IS ALL CRAP-CRAP-CRAP FOR IF ANY OF IT WAS TRUE WHY ISN’t THE REPUBLICANS ALL OVER IT????AND DON’T TELL ME THAT SH——T OBUMA DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FRAUD,,,, HE IS AT THE HEART OF IT. HE IS THE REASON THIS IS GOING ON TODAY. EITHER HE IS A PHONY OR HE IS LIGITAMATE AND THE LATER OF THE TWO I PERSONALLY DONT BELIEVE. BUT WHY IS HE SO PROTEDTED BY THE REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, MEDIA AND WHY IS A DO NOTHING VACATIONING PRESIDENT LEADING IN THE POLLS?????OUR WHOLE GOVERNMENT IS ONE BIG CONSPIRICY AND NOT ANY OTHER WORD DEFINES IT. POLITICIANS ARE CROOKS WE ALL KNOW IT AND WE JUST TURN THE OTHER CHEEK AND KEEP PAYING!!!!! ALL OF WHICH IS A BUNCH OF BULL CRAP. POSSE DETERMINATION MY ASS JUST ANOTHER STORY FOR THE ARCHIVES.

    • Daren

      Andy, Absolutely Amazed, you are absolutely brain dead retards! Pull your cone shaped cranium out of your liberal ass and move to Iran or North Korea.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Daren, dare you to comprehend? Re-read it!

    • factnotrhetoric

      Andy,
      Take a deep breath and count to ten. I agree with you 100% and I believe most of these readers agree with you too.

      These readers are trying to prove exactly what you claim to be true. But they must do it “one fact at a time.” This is an incredibly frustratingly and slow process, especially when you know a president is doing that much damage to your country. But that’s the way democracies work.

      Sadly, you must protect Obama’s rights, and deal only with facts, to protect your own rights in any democracy. In any democracy, we must depend on provable facts and finding proof takes time.

      You could do a lot of good by spreading any of these facts, that you believe are true, to the general news media reader comments.

      • Vicki

        factnotrhetoric writes:

        Sadly, you must protect Obama’s rights, and deal only with facts, to protect your own rights in any democracy. In any democracy, we must depend on provable facts and finding proof takes time.

        Ummm.. In any democracy you only need a majority of people to do whatever you want. Facts are not relevant. Perhaps you confused the Constitutionally LIMITED Republic that was the United States which was formed to protect individual rights and where provable facts are required for “due process”.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY The specific of Democracy is discussed starting about 5:00 min but I urge you to listen to the entire ~10 min.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vicki :) as usual you get it right :)

      • samurai

        Good post Vicki and well said. :-) Factsnorhetoric, we are a Constitutional Republic and not a democracy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Steve E

      Here is a link which explains how the Certificate of Live Birth.
      http://redwhitebluenews.com/?p=25222&fb_source=message
      Don’t bother watching it if you are a Liberal. It will be way over you head,
      High IQs will understand this.

    • http://amendment-13.org tonahistory

      Mr. Andy, in answer to your passionate comment “WHY ISN’t THE REPUBLICANS ALL OVER IT????”, it’s because of the identical situation for rising Republican stars Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Marco Rubio of Florida. It has been established for both of them that their parents were not U.S. citizens when they were born. And it’s at least reasonable to include Mitt Romney because he has publicly stated that he was born in Mexico. Since Romney’s dad, George Romney, was also born in Mexico, unless and until it’s proven that George Romney had formally become a naturalized citizen by the time son Mitt was born, he’s ineligible as well.

  • Jay

    Time for Sheriff Joe to issue a Warrant in this case of fraud. No wonder the Obummer Administration is up Joe’s butt with a microscope…!

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    Must be the greatest conman of all time if this is true. Invention of the CIA? Whatever, he is due to carry on the con game in Novemebr again – believe it! It seems that America is screwed anyway.

  • Winks

    This is the most stupid article I had ever seen. Of course his documents were produced on a computer. What else would they be produced with…a papyrus leaf? Bill Ayer’s mom…gimme an effin break. For the sake of argument, let’s ask this anonymous source what her address was. I am sure he will not know. Also, airlines did not even collect customs papers in 1961. This practice started under the Nixon Administrstion, when he changed the state department to a cabinet office. Get your facts straight and get your head out of your arse.

    The fact is – Obama has been president for almost an entire term. And thanks to the idiots running for the republican ticket – he will be again. So crawl out of your cave and get with the rest of us in the real world.

    • Vicki

      Winks writes

      Also, airlines did not even collect customs papers in 1961.

      You might want to check before making bald assertions like that. They are ridiculously easy to disprove.
      “85.3.2 Passenger arrival lists (air)

      Textual Records: Microfilm copies of airplane passenger arrival lists, including lists for Miami, FL, 1929-45 (178 rolls), with index, 1930-42 (68 rolls); New Orleans, LA, 1943-45 (12 rolls); West Palm Beach, FL, 1931-45 (2 rolls); and miscellaneous ports in FL, 1944-45 (1 roll).”

      Now of course I could stop there but then my quoted statement would still be proof by bald assertion so I will now include a cite to the source of the quote.

      Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service [INS]

      And even a link to the cite.
      http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/085.html

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        Nice work, Vicki.

        God Bless.

    • texastwin827

      Winks, don’t look now but your age (or ignorance) is showing. In 1961, very few computers existed…except possibly in the Government and a few large corporations. They were huge mainframes, not personal computers that exist today. Most businesses, including hospitals, did things manually (I know..that’s a foreign concept, isn’t it?)

      The term “African American” did not even exist in 1961. Regardless of whether you might consider it as “racist” or not, he would have been classified as Negro, because his father was a Negro. It would not have mattered that his mother was White….that’s just the way it was in 1961.

      • Bellagram

        What is all the chatter about the term African American not being used in 1961, and thereby is another strike against the president’s birth certificate? Did you look at the document? No where is the term African American used. Race of father is listed as African which was the term commonly used at that time to describe blacks who were actually Native-born Africans. Race of mother is listed as Caucasian. If you want to point fingers at parts of the COLB, at least know what you are saying. If anyone cares there is also an article on foxnews.com that contradicts the Sheriff’s findings http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/

  • http://httpaol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    We know he is a fake for quite a while.

  • FreedomFighter

    Time to IMPEACH OBAMA.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Vicki

      Better to nullify his presidency. That way all of the laws he signed and appointments he made just go away.

      • Christin

        Vicki,

        Nullify would be good… might have a racial war on our hands though if we remove their messiah.

        Did you click on the ‘CIA Creation’ report in Bob’s article?

        Do you believe these findings?

      • Vicki

        Christin says:

        Nullify would be good… might have a racial war on our hands though if we remove their messiah.

        No worries. They don’t believe in guns. Oh wait. Its liberals that don’t believe in guns. African Americans are smarter.

    • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

      Nullify is the answer.

      God Bless.

  • Firefight

    Indeed, we are in great peril. This whole thing has been orchestrated by a group of individuals who are hell bent on a complete transformation of America into what they see as the last piece in their puzzle. If America can be reduced to the level of other countries with no ability to decide the people’s will, they will have won. The objective of this administration is to complete a breaking down of morals and values of the American people. Once that is accomplished, the breaking down of the people’s will, will be easy. I hope everyone realizes what comes next. For those who think that American patriotism is dead, think again. It is merely resting, watching, and biding it’s time. I have made this statement before and I will make it again. “A line has been drawn in the sand.” Each of us must decide which side we will be on.

    The matters concerning Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate, his fraudulent Connecticut Social Security card, his apparent travel to foreign countries that were off limits to Americans and his unobtainable records from Occidental and Columbia are just the tip of this enormous iceberg that has been constructed for America’s demise. The World Banking system must be dealt with. People like Bill Ayers and Soros, the Bilderbergs, must be brought to justice. Corporate America and the unions must be dealt with and all the bullying must be dealt with. This is something that we have been turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to for too long. It has finally come around to bite us in the ass.

    • Sirian

      I agree, overall, that is the positive end result that they have been indoctrinating all of us, kids on up, since the sixties Firefight. This is their last chance since and boy are they pushing it. What troubles me is that so many people don’t realize what’s taking place.

    • rightsfighter

      Nice and heartbreaking story! Do you belief it yourself? Hope it bite you in the ass and good!

      • samurai

        The personal attack. Classic liberal strategy. The facts are all there, just look them up and see what is going on around you. Ooops! I forgot that you libs are as blind as bats. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

      Nice work, Firefight.

      You see the equation for what it is…indeed, it’s the bankers behind it all…& who are the bankers? They were once called the Knights Templar…and after going underground, they emerged as the Mason/Illuminati equation.

      Don’t believe me? Look at Isreal’s Surpreme Court & who donated the funds to build it…look who controls the money supply for America and the world through their Central Banks. It’s all the same organization. Look at what organizations they belong to…UN, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergs. They are Masons or connected to them…one and all.

      http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-israel-supreme-court/

      I specifically point my finger at the leaders of these organizations as the ROOT level cause of why our world is the way that it is. Nothing will change until we as a species address what it is they have been doing & are trying to do…all the way down through History. There is enough evidence to prove this all…we just need someone with enough balls like Sheriff Joe to step up to the plate & open up this can of worms. Yes, it will be painfull to deal with…but we are American’s & I know once we do…we’ll be the better for it.

      God Bless.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Keep up the good fight, Firefight!

  • Rico Lagattuta

    Personally,I amtired of reading this crap. If there is evidence, file a law suit and get it over with!

    • Deerinwater

      Well Rico, it seems everyone has a computer and photo shop.

      They are going to continue with these claims because they “can” .

      Any thing the can be crafted and thrown, will be.

      We can’t control what people “WISH” to believe or say. It’s not in our power.

      You have power over yourself, and that’s all the power that you need.

      Saying things does not make them so. If it did, I’d be a millionaire.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Deerinwater,

        You write: “Well Rico, it seems everyone has a computer and photo shop.” Yes, even someone connected to the White House. Unfortunately he or she wasn’t very good.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Deerinwater

        Hmm? so you believe to be holding “a copy” of the actual legal instrument in dispute?

        How do you know?

        I would think at this point the whole arena has been “salted” and everything suspect, especially documents that make clear claims and obvious bogus.

        If I’m not mistaken Mr Livingston, you are placing a lot of creditably on this “cold case posse” from Arizona. Gentlemen with no names, but only a title commissioned by one Sheriff “Joe”.

        Where is Mr. Tibbs when you need him?

        These groups are usually comprised of retired peace officers, that still enjoy meeting and coming into the shop every week or so. Cold case files runs hot and cold, they might come in more often if they are closing in on something.

        They get bored setting under the little lady’s feet and watching day time TV. Too old and hurt to bad to work stock anymore, you might a horse parade out of them once a year. Going in and doing law enforce work is fun. If you have a colorful Sheriff, even more so.

        I’m not trying to diminish these good men Mr. Livingston, but I’m offering to you, it’s a small nail to be hanging a big pair of britches on. Arizona is not known for being all that sophisticated on any level you might wish to look. They don’t have to be, there little need for it in that part of the country. Super sleuths they are not.

        stock thieves, gun runners, smugglers, wife beaters and drunks is their staple.

      • Michael J.

        Deerinwater says:
        “stock thieves, gun runners, smugglers, wife beaters and drunks is their staple.”

        So, you’re not only hopelessly indoctrinated, but stupid to boot. Come to think of it… the two traits go hand in hand. Do you even realize who your coarse comments are addressed too? Not to mention the millions of decent Arizonans.

        Take my advice, if you plan any excursions to Arizona in the near future, don’t sign the registar as “Deerinwater” or you may end up as venison stew after your above remarks.

        BTW,The description above reminds me of the Kennedy’s more than anyone else. And you mentioned “bricthes”, Ted was notorious for not wearing any while chasing terrified woman up and down the sandy beaches of
        Palm Beach in the middle of the night while Palm Beach cops looked the other way. I guess he envied Clinton, or did Clinton learn from the Kennedy’s? AWh… who can keep up with liberals sexual debauchery anyway !!! Just a bunch of Godless heathans lacking a moral compass. Teesh… no wonder we’re in such a mess.

      • DaveH

        I’m from Arizona, DeerInHeadlights, and I’m saying you’re a retard.

        • Deerinwater

          So you plan to get personal? Everyone has to live somewhere. If you think Arizona is a hot bed of Anglo Saxton culture and reflects 21st century man , that up to you. I don’t have a problem with you being incorrect until to start promoting it as something that it’s not and wish it one everyone else.

    • Sirian

      Rico,
      If you’re tired of reading this crap, they why did you read it? Duh. . .

    • Vicki

      Rico. Is someone forcing you to read this “crap”. If not than why blame anyone but yourself. Is that a “progressive” thing to blame others for your decisions?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Rico: Personally, I am tired of reading this crap. If there is evidence, file a law suit and get it over with!

      Poor Rico, if only you could read in your statement, that reading is not your forte! Otherwise, you would have stated: Personally, i am tired of the courts dismissing all motions to investigate the fraud, which is, Obama, and his Photoshopped, birth-certificate! You need to do more reading, Rico!!!

    • http://amendment-13.org tonahistory

      No one is forcing you to read “this crap”. Since you find it so upsetting, take a nice long break with your fellow sheeples.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul’s campaign are faltering. When will one or all make this an issue? I understand why it was not made an issue until a law enforcement investigation was committed. However, that’s been done by the great patriot Sheriff Joe. It can wait no longer. Simply demand that Hussein produce his records. Make no other request. Let Hussein show that Sheriff Joe is a fool, if he can. Let;s get this crap over with now! The MSM cannot ignore this issue if one or all of the three also-rans stand up and begin shouting about the issue. Trump did and his ratings skyrocketed. Not only will it b=rings untold of publicity to campaigns that are faltering but it will bring the exposure that is required. I also believe it will stop the Mitt express dead in its tracks as he will not play with the issue. Of course, whoever does this stands the risk of assassination, just as as most probably done to Breitbarte whose last interview was with Sheriff Arpaio.

  • Lakshman DeSilva

    The Fact is that Mr. Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States of America and The Commander in Chief!
    There is nothiung anyone can do anything about these frauds and forgeries as there is no congressman with balls to move a moition if impeachment including killing a US citizen by his order outside Constitutional forms and ordering Police to attack American citizens for peacefully deminstrating under constitutional rights, and going to war without Congress approval wehereas President Obama is a despot and made USA a fratrocracy

    • http://amendment-13.org tonahistory

      Mr. Lakshman, you stated: “Mr. Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States of America and The Commander in Chief!”. Yes, he is the Commander in Chief, but not the President of the United States of America (the country). The Constitution establishes that any president is President of the United States (the government in Washington, D.C.). Also, U.S. citizens and American citizens are two different legal entities. Congress has jurisdiction over U.S. citizens. It does not have jurisdiction over Americans. A Title 8 U.S.C statute categorizes “Americans” as American nationals.

  • Evelyn

    Impeach obama!!!

  • neal

    This is not a trial. Obama is not on trial. It is not up to us to prove anything. Hussein Obama is trying to qualify for a position. Understand the word Qualify. The burden of proof is his; and he refuses. That should be the end of it. Do not bother to qualify, do not get on the ballot.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      neal, I fully disagree. It is up to the “states” to vette the candidates. In Obama’s case and probably every other presidential candidate, past and present, the states have failed to do their due diligence and properly vette a presidential candidate. It is the “people” who must speak up and “force” this issue to the end.

      • Michael J.

        JeffH,
        On the subject of states vetting candidates, here’s another tidbit that’s been swept under the rug for the most part. Sorry, it’s a bit long but guaranteed infuriating.

        However, just one day after the Democrat Party of Hawaii (DPH) filed its sworn, but legally omissive OCON with the Hawaiian election commission, the Democratic National Committee (DNC), chaired by Nancy Pelosi, filed its national Official Certification of Nominations with all fifty states. This sworn application is filed by each party’s national committee with each state’s election commission alleging that their respective candidates have been vetted and approved for ballot placement for federal office.

        A review of the Democratic National Committee’s applications for Obama reveals a shocking irregularity in the composition of its Official Certification of Nomination sent to Hawaii. On December 19, 2008, Hawaii’s Chief Elections officer, Kevin Cronin, in response to a written request by a Colorado resident for a copy of the Official Certification of Nominations, sent a letter and a copy of the DPH’s OCON and the DNC’s OCON. However, analysis of the DNC OCON sent to Hawaii in comparison with the DNC’s OCON sent to other states, reveals that they did not match. In fact, Hawaii’s version of the DNC’s OCON contained specific wording not included in the versions sent to ALL the other states, which directly contradicts the Democrat Party of Hawaii’s OCON. All the states’ Election Commissions, except for Hawaii’s, were sent one Official Certification of Nomination with the following statement:

        “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively”

        The typo “though” is not a mistake. It actually exists in the official document. Notice, in this version of the DNC’s OCON, there is no mention of Obama’s Constitutional eligibility. However, in the version sent separately to Hawaii’s Election Commission, it states the following:

        “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:”

        The inclusion of the specific language previously omitted by the DPH’s OCON indicates nothing less than a conspiracy on the part of the DNC and the DPH to force a confirmation of Barack Obama’s eligibility by the state of Hawaii, without actually verifying it. The DNC amended its Hawaiian OCON for specifically for Obama as a means of creating a direct contradiction with DPH’s legitimate omission of legal language which, if included, would certify Obama’s constitutional eligibility in accordance with Hawaiian law.

        The obvious crime in this intentional dissemination of misinformation is that if the DPH was unable to verify Obama’s eligibility, the DNC would have also not been able to verify it. Why would the DNC not share its verification documentation of Obama’s candidacy with the Democrat Party of Hawaii’s official? If the DNC was actually able to verify Obama’s eligibility, the DPH would have also acquired the same documentation to verify it. If the eligibility of Obama candidacy was provable and verifiable, both party authorities would have included the same appropriate language in accordance with Hawaiian law. Hawaiian law also allowed for seven more days from the dates appearing on both OCONs to be filed if more time was needed for the DPH and the DNC to corroborate the verification of Obama’s eligibility.

        Also, if the original version of the DNC’s OCON had been authored with language confirming Obama’s constitutional eligbility, the DNC had no rational motive for submitting two different versions. The inclusion of such language only reinforces perception of Obama’s eligibility in every state. Therefore, the submittal of different documents indicates an act of deception on the part of Nancy Pelosi and the DNC in an effort to contradict the Democrat Party of Hawaii’s OCON.

        Seesh… can you believe it? When this story originally broke it was only covered by Fox, and only for a day or two at that. Can you imagine if McCain had done this? MSM coverage would have been loud enough to make you defocate with a hang-time stench equivelent to an elephant the day after he raided a Taco Bell. So thuroughly persistent in fact, that dead ancestors of Amazon head-hunters would have by-now heard about it. And they would still be railing about it. Like when eddie gets backed in a corner with no way out, he would exclaim out of desperation… “Ya, but McCain falsified OCN documents, So There”

        All of this is proof positive that if you have the backing of the CFR steered MSM, The World Is Yours Baby !!!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Michael J., :) you’re absolutly correct and that has also been presented here in the past.

  • ROSINA

    Well, it was proved by computer experts a long time ago that the so-called birth certificate was fraudulent. Even as far as the number of the certificate was later than a baby born definitely after the Bummer.
    Also on the internet a Kenyan certificate was shown with all the correct identification including the British Governor’ name and signature for this Kenyan birth.
    Apart from anything else, the fact that his father was BRITISH and not a US citizen already makes him illegible to be President. The Prez is SUpposed to have TWO NATURAL BORN PARENTS. WE ALL KNOW THAT! ISN’T THIS ENOUGH TO THROW THE BUM OUT?
    MCcAIN was expected to show his birth as he was born in Panama—on a US BASE so considered US territory. So, what or who has been stopping the legalities in this case?
    Why are the Republicans so reluctant to face up to the truth?
    What is stopping a full Congressional inquiry?
    These are the questions to be answered.

    • factnotrhetoric

      True, true and true BUT

      The courts are defining a natural born citizen as any person born in the US.

      The original books on the Obama Birth Certificate disagree. Some books prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that his certificate, which was a reissued birth certificate, was a fake. Other books prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the reissued birth certificate was real, but obviously not the original copy from the microfilm archives.

      That’s the really frustrating point. No one can prove if Obama had a birth certificate or not because those microfilms have been stolen for those two weeks.

      The other frustrating point is that there is no way to factually link Obama to the forgeries.

      The forgeries could have been done by anyone, including the CIA or the Saudis. You must give Obama the same rights as anyone else, he is innocent until proven guilty. If you can not link Obama to the actual forging then he committed no crime.

      If you don’t protect Obama’s right to habeas corpus, which is the right to a fair trial, then you give up your right to habeas corpus. That’s the price you pay for living in a democracy.

      Obama signed into law on Dec 31, 2011 the NDAA which takes away every Americans right to Habeas Corpus, except of course, Obama’s. If Obama declares martial law, because of the Saudi Paid Occupy RIOTS, then only Obama will have the right to Habeas Corpus.

      OCCUPY RIOTS => OBAMA MARTIAL LAW DICTATORSHIP => SUSPEND CONGRESS AND THE CONSTITUTION => AMERICA IS CONVERTED 100% FROM BEING A DEMOCRACY INTO BEING A DICTATORSHIP UNDER OBAMA

      • Jeep

        Not arguing your statement, but just a minor correction “habeas corpus” is latin for “may you have your body”. In legal terms it means that you cannot hold someone or something without legal justification and in your context to be presented to a judge. It is intended to keep a prisoner from being held unjustly. Just saying…

      • samurai

        You need to have both parents as American citizens to be considered native born. His father was not and his mother was too young to pass on citizenship. Read the Constitution and SCOTUS caes Minor vs. Happersett 1875. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        It is interesting to see this conversation repeatedly going on and on when I believe there has been some over thirty law suits filed on this matter and not one has had any success, three actually had rulings against them and in the soldiers case his attorney was actually fined $20,000 for contempt of court for filing a frivolousness lawsuit, none take takes them seriously. Courts have ruled that Obama is a natural born citizen and must be placed on the ballot and unless a higher court overturns those rulings this is over and done with. A fact few on here will admit. Their changes of success are between little and none and real experts on the subject all say most likely none.

        • EddieW

          Enjoy!
          Supreme Court Rules Obama Ineligible!
          Back in 1875, the United States Supreme Court, in Minor v, Happersett, ruled that:

          Natural Born Citizen” was defined as children born of two U.S. citizens – regardless of the location of the birth. It found: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”

      • http://naver samurai

        SSDD eh smilee (kang)? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        EddieW says:
        March 4, 2012 at 5:26 pm

        Sorry, But when a later court rules different than an earlier court then to reinstate the earlier court,s ruling a higher court than then must again over rule the latest ruling and if they do not or refuse to hear it then the latest court ruling is the final say. I understand your wishful thinking but reality over trumps your conclusion. Sammy, however, can only think in wishful terms as he is so far out of touch from reality.

      • http://naver samurai

        SSDD, eh smilee? Remember, the Indiana Apelette Court was the last court in Indiana ti decide if Obama bin Laden could be on the ballot, but not the Indiana Supreme Court, moron. Ergo, the case can be moved to a higher court. Hopefully, the judge will go by the Constitution. Obama bin Laden is not a natural born citizen. Haven’t made that popping sound yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        samurai says:
        March 4, 2012 at 11:13 pm

        Sammie that was 2009, I do not believe it was appealed to the IND supreme court or any other court. Nice to see you admit the court did rule and not as you would have liked. I think you know that Obama will be on all 50 state ballots this fall but its a free country and you certainly can keep dreaming that he will not

      • samurai

        Wrong answer smilee! My point was that it hadn’t made it to the Indiana Supreme Court, ergo it could be brought up in question in Indiana. Since this being true, the appeals court ruling does not stand. Let’s see what happens. Why are you in so much favor for this pretender makes me wonder your real level of education, intelligence, and a very firm planting of your head in the sand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Sammie

        you are so so ignorant of how are court systems work, Indiana has to appeal it for its SC to hear and they have not, do not know in IND how long a time they have to do it but I’m sure it has passed and that ruling will stand, Missouri could appeal it though and I believe they have but again this will in the end all fail, its just spinning wheels now as I have said before Obama will be on all 50 state ballots this fall., EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Let’s just see what comes about smilee (kang). For someone who is college educated, you sure seem less intelligent. Like I keep saying, let’s see what happens. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. Indiana has always been one to surprise.

      • Smilee

        Sammy, Its already happened

      • FWO21

        It is not that easy to change the Constitution and that is what would have to be done in order to say “all people born in the United States” are American citizens.

        That is the way the Bible is too… 10 people read a verse in the Bible and 10 people interpret it 10 different ways.

        You have to be born to American Citizen parents in order to be a natural-born citizen. Plain and simple. I don’t have the exact text in front of me, but this is what it means.

      • http://naver samurai

        FWSO21 you are correct. Smilee, since you have posted no source, you lie again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

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  • Deerinwater

    This is not that Arizona “fairy” sheriff is it? The one that was trying to deport a jaded lover.

    Arizona politics today is a poor mount to saddle if you plan to go very far.

    I wouldn’t offer much credit to anything that comes out of Arizona today if I were you. You will only end up with egg on your face.

    • Jay

      No…This is the Sheriff that the Obummer Administration says is too tough on crime and illegals.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Well, one thing’s for sure, deerinwater, nothing good will come from you regarding this issue; certainly not while you have your head jammed up your emperor’s a$$! As much as you try to convince us that you are a centrist, this post, in particular, as well as others, concerning Obama, clearly demonstrate that you are just another, left-wing thug! How dare you ridicule a law-enforcement agent for upholding the law, and investigating fraud and corruption? Shame on you, you two-faced, double-talking, left-wing, twit!

    • hoov

      Once again the marxist has the facts wrong.

    • eddie47d

      Desperation abounds in nailing Obama. We must be getting closer to election time and with the Republicans in disarray the volume is being pumped up. Jay use to be informative and now he is nuttier that last Christmas’s fruit cake. Maybe you’re the one who needs to take a deep breath or down a couple of Prozacs.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Prozac? Why, does Prozac work for you. Eddie?

      • eddie47d

        Don’t need it but you act as if you do.

      • samurai

        Is this in comparison to your daily diet of prune juice and viagra? Don’t know if you are coming or going? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Samurai, that was pure poetry, ROFLMAO!!!

        • Deerinwater

          Just more of the same from the far right GOP and their minions, Eddie, run out the clock, attempting to contrive a default victory, like the true unsportsmen that they are. They are not really far right at all, they are off the political landscape and reaching zealot status.

          Having no and seeing no clear plan for victory, they are left to dazzle with bull4hit and amuse the simpler minds. The Crackers of Georgia, South Carolina and Arizona are feeding it and the rest are eat this stuff up. Texas , Oklahoma , Arkansas and Bama are full of them as well.

          The GOP leadership, likes to open the back screen door and throw them a bone every so often just to keep the dogs attention. Mr. Livingston is playing the same game with this thread post.

          Obama has the resources to address such attacks and it’s to never to go anywhere. But it’s an appeal to distract the swing vote.

          The 2012 general election results will be largely determined by the independent and swing vote.

          GOP is saying , “Hey! We might stink, but we don’t stink as bad as that guy!”

      • Michael J.

        Deerinwater,
        Oh we have a plan allright, Elect Ron Paul and Andrew Napolitano to push you limp wristed commie progressives back into the closet from whince you came. Give someone else some keyboard time on your Mom’s computor. Put some pants on and get out of the basement. Aren’t you ashamed to be still living off of your parents and the government? Gay marriages will someday be annulled, you and your significant brother should be planning for the future.

  • Neil

    There have been several cases files against Obama for this very issue that were all killed by Elana Kagen as Solicitor General. Kagen ran cover for Obama.

    • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

      Bingo…Neil…and that’s how they operate…wheels within wheels are watching each others back as they manuever our country closer to it’s destruction.

      We need to clean house and start over w/proven military & civilian loyalists to the Constitution. We need to elect statesmen and not the career polititions who have sworn oaths of subserviance to their wierd secret brotherhood. We need men & women who are not Masons…who are not loyalty to some secret societies secret oaths.

      The above people have a confliction of interest as you can not serve American’s Constitution, or God for that matter if you have given your free will away by swearing oaths to a secret international society that has it’s own Agenda. These oaths carry pain of death if your reveal them to anyone outside the secret society.

      Seriously people, 1 + 1 = 2.

      Wake up to the simple truths I speak of. I wish I was wrong but to much Historic evidence proves otherwise.

      For those of you who have the stamina to read the following, written by one of our former Presidents…I’ll offer this link. Be warned…it’s not for the feint of heart as it’s a long read & has an incredible amount of information in it. What President Adams does do is prove how this group covered for each other & worked as a body…to spirit Captain William Morgan away, and to his murder. It also tries very strongly, to show that those who have secret obligations & oaths can not do so w/out comprimising their loyalty to America & to the Constitution.

      With sincere hope of high Stamina amongst you readers…I offer the following body of information…may it help spurn your own investigation into the truth…

      http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/john_quincy_adams.html

      God Bless & may the Republic survive what is being done to it…by those who are enemies to all us free people of the world.

    • Smilee

      What a joke neil, the SC court has not even heard it and Kagen cannot vote on it unless and until they do hear it. You are either ignorant or an out and out fabricator.

      • http://naver samurai

        Care to citre a source, eh smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …”killed by Elana Kagen as Solicitor General”…didn’t mention Elana Kagan as a SCJustice or did I miss that part, or maybe it was purposely ignored by the highy intelligent smilee???

      • Smilee

        JeffH says:
        March 5, 2012 at 3:58 pm

        She had no decision making powers before she got on the court, solicitor generals only argue cases before the supreme court for the government and do not have any decision making powers, further she never argued any of these cases on behalf of Obama therefore one has to ignore that she did anything when she was solicitor general but she does having voting power on the SC if it is ever is heard by this court which I doubt will ever happen. My point is she has never in either roles had any part in any decision in these matters.

      • http://naver samurai

        When the time comes to make decisions about Obama bin Laden, Kagen needs to recuse herself. No exceptiions! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        WHY?????????? No real reason to

      • http://naver samurai

        Since she has been involed in many dealings with Obama bin Laden, her judgement would be compromised. Sheesh smilee! It seems you don’t know as much about how judges operate as you say. Recusing herself would be the propper response. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jamcojoe

    absolutely amazed –

    Why is it automatically the race card. Most people that pull the race card when talking about Obummer aren’t even entitled to. The are white,tree hugging,social program loving liberals (democrats – the slavery party!). very seldom do you hear of an African American screaming recist when someone points out the obvious flaws in this presidancy (Al,Jesse and Farrakan aside).Drop the race card!. It is old and you guys in the Dem Party can’t even figure out when to use it!

  • http://Wolfpack2012 JThaddeustoad

    Vicki ….. Among the many scoffers of the birthers is none other than “The Guy Who Is Watching Out for The Folks” on Fox news …. Bill O’Reilly, who has refered to the birthers as “LOONS” ….. While saying on National TV that’ ” He has seen the original”….. This guy has been a closet advocate and fence sitter for this administration since its inception…. Case and Point …. watch the pandering interview during super bowl 2011…..

  • JC Mohan

    Will Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse verify my doubt?
    Obama is not a human born. He was created in a lab.
    Osama Bin Laden was killed in 2002, and not 2011.
    The photo that the media circulated in 2011 saying Osama’s body was thrown into the sea was false. The same photo was circulating in the internet since 2003. Verify if you want. From the hospital CIA took the body of Osama and genetically created Obama in their secret underground military facility. Obama came into the public scene in 2004 as a human robo. The CIA wanted a man for NWO creation, not from the white men. So a perfectly suited half muslim, half christian, a half negro, well best way to blame the African Asians and muslims.
    He is mentally controlled from the secret military bases. This is reason he does not know what he is talking or doing. He is blindly passing laws for enslavement of humanity and destruction of sovereign nations. Please go deep into the UN Agenda 21. He does everything as per dictates of CIA and the Zionists elites. He has no human sparked soul. He is not a human being, just as the movie you guys have seen “THEY LIVE”.

    • factnotrhetoric

      Nice, but I find it much more believable that Obama is a Saudi Puppet, bought and paid for by the Saudi Dictator like the rest of the puppets in our Administration. The Bushes got $1.6 Billion from the Saudi Dictator. Ex Pres Clinton gets $50,000 per month consulting fees. SoS Clinton is up for head of the World Bank.

      No Obama is bought, and paid for, like the rest of them. Saudi Puppet Obama must do what the Saudi Dictator commands or the Microfilm may suddenly reappear. Thus we have a Saudi Dictator controlling the largest military force the world has ever known. By controlling Obama, the Saudi Dictator controls 3 million US Civilian employees and 2 Million US Military employees.

      Saudi Puppet Obama is paid by the Saudi Dictator to overthrow countries for the Saudi Dictator by leaving “Saudi written Sharia Law” in each county’s constitution like Iraq and Afghanistan. “Saudi written Sharia Law” in the constitution of any country converts any DEMOCRACY into a SAUDI DICTATORSHIP. So both Afghanistan and Iraq were presents, of whole countries, to the Saudi Dictator from Saudi Puppet Obama. This was at the cost of Thousands of American Soldier’s lives, $Trillion of BORROWED American Dollars and killing over one-million innocent Middle Eastern Civilians and Citizens.

      Saudi Puppet Obama also left “Saudi written Sharia Law” in the constitutions of Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Yemen and Kenya. These were more gifts from Saudi Puppet Obama to the Saudi Dictator.

      Now Saudi Puppet Obama’s TODO list of countries to overthrow next are SYRIA, IRAN and then ISRAEL.

    • Jeep

      So, if he is being “mentally controlled from the secret military bases”, that musat mean it’s not his fault. Right? :)

  • castaway

    We all need to form a 1million man lynch mob, and call it peacefull gathering, then rush the White House and lynch the bastard and all of his cronies on the spot. What could anyone do? really!

    • http://Wolfpack2012 JThaddeustoad

      Castaway ….. What happened to due process ? What happened to our constitution ? You sound like exactly what we are trying to change …. In addition your recruitment would be tedeous and replete with turncoats and opportunists … Not A Good Idea !

      • castaway

        J THaddeustoad that is the whole point, and why it should be done in force, so it is unstoppable. Sure there would be imposters, and rats, as there always are. TO sit around and do nothing , is more criminall than anything.We,and I say We are allowing them to destroy the country that we all love and cherish, and not lifting more than a finger to fix the problem. Voting is a rigged joke, and will not do much for us in the cause to restore liberty. WE need to do the fight like our forefathers, and those that fought the British if the republic is to be saved. Dream on if you think you will vote them out in November. You and others like you with your laim attitude will help to destroy whats left.

        So, you grab a rocking chair, find your self a nice place to sit in it and watch as it all crumbles around you. Just like sitting in a time machine as time passes by.

      • eddie47d

        Vigilante justice is no justice and would take our country backwards.So come back when you have a rational thought Castaway!

    • tominco

      Too late… Congress passed law on Monday that makes protesting outside the WH illegal. Also broad in scope to encompass any place that is deemed ‘special.

      • castaway

        Sorry Tominch that would not stop over a million serious people.

    • Tim

      Works for me… Name the day…. I/we will be there….

      • jrcat918

        You have a diabolical mind . . . . . I like that.

  • http://Wolfpack2012 JThaddeustoad

    Given the state of this economy ….. it will not be long before the moochers,pensioners and illegals that are living off the productive side of this economy will be hitting the streets….. HEY Folks !!! We the working productive people are broke …. Now if you were smart and I know you are not, because you are driven by your selfishness and greed….You would allow the productive side to get back to work so you can continue to sit on your asses …. May i suggest how you do that …. Vote this administration and its congress out …. otherwise it is over…

    • Tim

      You say pensioners?
      I have paid in excess of $123K into SSI , being employeed they have matched that..
      Do you think/say I have not paid my way?
      Do you think/say I am not able to retire?

      • hoov

        Case in point, Indoctrinated.

    • castaway

      Like I said, go sit in your rocking chair, and watch it all go by like you are sitting in a time machine. You are so very dull. DA Lets vote dem outch in da fall. Yeah that will work as well as the last time. It is violence that will fix this mess and only violence. Let their blood run in the streets of America like rain water. Lets get er done.

      • Vicki

        agent provocateur Go away.

    • T.E.

      J Thaddeus TURD ~ one thing for your sorry ass to remember is that we ‘pensioners’ you so kindly lumped in as feeding off the system, were out there working thru the 50s-90s did so under harder times than you realize. And we were promised that the monies would be there for us in return for ‘forced payments’.
      Take that A## wipe notion that we didn’t earn it. We earned 1.50 per hour to feed families on, worked 60-70 hours a week, and had only a handfull of vacations in our lives. So get yourself a plexiglas belt buckle so you can see where you are going! If I had my head that far up my A@@ I’d shutup and hide.

    • factnotrhetoric

      You wrote, “Vote the Congress and Administration out.” But this is harder than it sounds.

      Is there some way (besides Ron Paul) to be sure that the person running is not another puppet?

      Part of “Saudi written Sharia Law” requires any Saudi, or Saudi Puppet, to lie to any citizen, of any country, that does not have “Saudi written Sharia Law” in their constitution. Look at Obama. He always said the right things before he got elected, and Americans believed Obama would fix America.

      But it turned out Obama was simply another Saudi Puppet that lied constantly. Look at the YouTube video “7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes” if you want to see “Saudi written Sharia Law” at work in our Administration. The one thing you can count on from any Saudi is that they are lying to you.

      That’s how the Saudi Dictator came into control of our Administration. So my question again is “Is there some way to be sure a politician is not just another Saudi Puppet?”

  • Judith

    If the American people will wake up and smell the corruptness in DC there could be many healthy changes in our country. November is coming very soon, get rid of the blight now wirtten of American History, at the ballot box. Vote conservtive. Let’s face it he will walk away a Very rich man and we are the ones who are and will continue to suffer for many years.

  • Deerinwater

    For a bunch of folks that thinks they possess the ability to dictate to the world “when life begins” while telling us an American National woman gave birth to an alien is very comical.

    This attempt to win the presidency by default when their efforts failed by general election results has a distinct smell of desperation about it.

    These minority wants dominion , anyway they can achieve it.

    The rest of us understand your position, you haven’t got one. ;-)

    • http://Wolfpack2012 JThaddeustoad

      With all due respect ….. Your assessment is askewed by your ideology and obvious lack of knowledge …. When life begins is determined by a much higher authority just as when life ends is determined by the same higher authority …. Not Us ! neither Man nor Women…The real news is replete with some very valid questions that speak to the eligabilty of the POTUS …. Why can’t these questions be addressed in an open forum and either put to rest or proven to be true?? Can you answer that ?

    • Daniel

      Gee Deerinwater. It’s a shame your mother didn’t have an abortion.

    • hoov

      Deerinwater,
      Multiple choice:
      A: You are a Marxist.
      B: You misinterpret the constitution to advance to Marxist agenda.
      C: You haven’t read the Constitution.
      D: You are a idiot.

      • Michael J.

        hoov,
        D… with all the above as an all encompassing aggregate.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      As apposed to a bunch of folks who believe they have a right to dictate to the world when life begins, deerinwater? Ouch, if only you could see your hypocrisy!

      And what’s so comical about, establishing legitimacy, deerinwater? Should we disregard the law completely? What is comical, deer, is your post!

    • Vicki

      Deerinwater writes:

      For a bunch of folks that thinks they possess the ability to dictate to the world “when life begins” while telling us an American National woman gave birth to an alien is very comical.

      Interesting. You are correct that the pro-abortion crowd think they posses the ability to dictate to the world when life begins, but I have not seen them comment on extraterrestrials mating with humans at all, let alone an American citizen.

      Do you have a cite for that?

      • Deerinwater

        It’s as I thought, ~ void a solid leg to stand on , you’ve decided to incorporate the whole Universe in your banter.

        And in case you didn’t know, Universal Health Care does not apply to the whole Universe.

        Allow me to ask the question one more , when does an American woman , that has Natural born Citizenship status and the right to vote, have a child that is not entitled to this same status? Must we document the moment of conception and under what nation jurisdiction it occurred or should we consider the moment of birth?

        “Daniel says:
        March 2, 2012 at 9:28 am
        Gee Deerinwater. It’s a shame your mother didn’t have an abortion.”

        I think perhaps your mother make an attempt of it, as you come before us “short” so many parts today Mr. Daniel Douchbag

      • Vicki

        Deerinwater says:

        It’s as I thought, ~ void a solid leg to stand on , you’ve decided to incorporate the whole Universe in your banter.

        I was not aware that the whole universe was pro-abortion. Perhaps you are confusing the word universe with university.

        And in case you didn’t know, Universal Health Care does not apply to the whole Universe.

        You are correct. Since it is unconstitutional it does not apply to the whole universe. Nor to the planet, nor to the country.

        Allow me to ask the question one more , when does an American woman , that has Natural born Citizenship status and the right to vote, have a child that is not entitled to this same status?

        When the Father is not any kind of US citizen.

        Must we document the moment of conception and under what nation jurisdiction it occurred or should we consider the moment of birth?

        By definition you consider the moment of birth. Yes the child can be conceived of a foreign parent (or 2 or even in a foreign land) as long as the parents have both become a US citizens before the moment of birth.

        If you were to ask the founders they would explain it to you. They are dead of course but thru the magic of history we CAN ask them and they CAN and have answered.
        http://www.worldandi.com/subscribers/feature_detail.asp?num=26823

  • Capitalist at Birth

    There are two many unanswered questions about his past to just ignore it and assume that everything is okay. Let’s unlock all of the information, especially his education records. I believe that is where the real smoking gun will be found.

    • Deerinwater

      All modern President have their records sealed CB.

      Try to find the same data on Reagan , or H or W Bush.

  • Gunsmith Ben

    Unfortunately we have to deal with him now! I don’t like it no more than ya’ll do he’s (offensive word removed) my country up enough but in November we can all vote him back out of office. And pray to God up above that we get a True Conservative back in office not this moderate everyone keeps voting for. Come on Americans let’s get our country back to greatness. We can’t forget or give up on the notions that GOD HIMSELF BLESSED OUR GREAT NATION! After Obama is out of our White House then we can throw out everything he has done to our great nation. GOD BLESS AMERICA! NOW LET’S GET IT BACK!

  • Al

    It is time in this country for each state to pass constitutional ammendments (state level) to limit federal elected officials to 1 term in each elected office during each election. No incumbents need apply for the election. 28 to 30 states should make it valid across the union. And why do they need a pension?

  • Fay

    The birth certificate doesn’t matter. They want us to concentrate on that so that we look crazy. What matters is HE IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. His father was born in Kenya. Both parents must be American citizens. Let us concentrate there. Let us be honest if this is the case Marco Rubio can not be Vice President. Both his parents are Cuban immigrants. Yes, I like Marco but let us be fair. Let us not chose who we support just because of who they are. Let us just live the letter of the law. The constitution is clear you must be a natural born citizen. Meaning both the parents must be US Citizens. Stop the name calling and just make sure the law is obeyed. Get off the birth certificate even if it is fake. Concentrate on the well known that others can not deny.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGJdN2KPf0g

    • factnotrhetoric

      Fay,
      I agree —- but the courts are ruling against that definition. There is no definition of “Natural Born Citizen” in the US Constitution.

      In a state by state challenge to Obama being a “Natural Born Citizen”, so far, the courts have chosen to define “Natural Born Citizen” as being born in the US, not being born from two parents who are US Citizens.

      So any child born in the US, even if both parents were convicted foreign terrorist’s, is allowed to become President of the United States.

      • ROSINA

        But, isn’t there some precedent in approx. 1879 when the Supreme Court DID in fact define ‘natural born’ as having two American parents?
        Not just any citizen! (That would include me and I was not born here!)

      • Vicki

        factnotrhetoric writes

        There is no definition of “Natural Born Citizen” in the US Constitution.

        “due process” isn’t defined either but I bet you think you have it.
        “freedom of speech” isn’t defined but I bet you think you have that too.
        “shall not be infringed.” isn’t defined but… oh wait.
        “speedy and public trial” isn’t defined but I bet you think you have a right to that too.

      • samurai

        Both parents must be American citizens to be considered natural born. Look at SCOTUS case Minor vs. Happersett 1875. Notice it says parents, with an ‘s.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Sammie. Sammie the 1875 case you cite has nothing what so ever to do with defining a natural born citizen it simply ruled women did not have the right to vote and when the nineteenth amendment was passed in 1920 it was rendered fully null and void and has had no bearing on anything since 1920

      • http://naver samurai

        Smilee, smilee, smilee, did we finish drinking our 40 ounce of kool aid and are a lkittle touched? Since the SCOTUS has not made any ruling to supercede or overturn Minor vs. Happersett, the ruling still stands today. What did it have to do with women voting? That is a blatant bald faced lie. Care to cite a source that would prove me wrong? If you have no source, then don’t make yourself look more foolish then you already do by answering. Sheesh! Where do you get this nonsense? Why are you affraid of seeing the light and having this country go by the Constitution, founding principles, and Christian founding? I’ll bet your parents disowned you, didn’t they? Knock of the unfounded nonsense. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.P.S. Both parents must be U.S. cvitizens to be natural born. No exceptions!

        • Bellagram

          Here is the proof you asked for about Minor vs Happersett. The concluded finding was “Being unanimously of the opinion that the Constitution of the United States does not confer the right of suffrage upon any one, and that the constitutions and laws of the several States which commit that important trust to men alone are not necessarily void, we affirm the judgment.” From here: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html. If you read the whole
          conclusion, you will see that it does indeed deal with women’s suffrage.

      • Smilee

        Sammie, you fool, go read the ruling and you will find out just how wrong you are, until you learn to seek the truth you will remain in this brain washed state.

    • Surflaunch

      AMEN
      The real issue is being drowned out by the fabricated diversions.
      “NATURAL BORN” requires both partents be citizens at the time of birth, period.
      Location is irrelevent if this requirement is not met!

  • Drago Utthe Junke

    Well then, there is only ONE thing to do with this treasonous imposter who is occupying the White House! Charge him with treason and Hang ‘im High!!! Purge the rot from the halls of power and start with Black Hitler (our bastard president), work on down through all the congress critters, and all other “elected” politicians, and start over, still using the Constitution as a guide. Let’s just put Ron Paul in the White House and “git ‘er done”

  • RichE

    Wow CIA creation! Are you guys saying Obama was manufactured to be the first black president? That’s heavy.

    • castaway

      Not heavy at all, and very possible

      • hoov

        Manchurian candidate!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Obviously to heavy for RichE! It seems that some, just don’t have the capacity/acumen to deal with reality. Hence, they sweep it under the rug, deny the problems exist, and go on their merry way!

        • RichE

          Jay,
          Heavy? Don’t know what you mean. Anyway, the reality might be if I were Obama’s campaign mgr. I’d fuel the birthers. Look at the wasted resources.
          Several here have stated that courts have proved the birth documents to be forgeries. If that is true then why is Joe spending resources to prove what is already proven? If I were O’s CM I’d fuel it and push the waste aspect.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        RichE: if I were Obama’s campaign mgr…

        Unfortunately, that is one dream that will never come true for you, RichE. But be of good cheer, and look at the bright-side; at the very least, you are assisting in Obama’s campaign for re-election! Who knows, your investment may yield you profits!

        • RichE

          Jay,
          Are you saying the more I stir the pot the more I assist in Obama’s campaign? Wow!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        No, I think you, are saying that! Are you not aware of what you’re saying? WOW!!!

  • David Platter

    I think what is not being talked about much is the fact that a felony was committed by submitting forged documents to the entire country. That coupled with the forged service card alone should be enough to impeach Obama. The preponderance of evidence and the obvious cover up is so extreme here no reasonable person could come to conclusion that all is right with Obama. The media will try and cover this up as much as they can will talk some more about some gossip. Let get to the truth and quit protecting the lie.

    • Sam

      I never lose my cool. I have never replied to any of the things being said in any of the posts in this venue. In many cases they are one sided. However, some of you folks take the cake. For this once, I will use the terms stupid and idiotic. I was born in American Samoa and raised in Hawaii. All my children were born in Hawaii. All of their long certificates look exactly like the one the president has as presented in this article. I have copies of them right here with me. All my children worked for the government, either in the military or other branches. I served 20 years and 2 of my brothers served a total of 48 years. My dad was a marine. The rest of my family members server over 150 years in this country’s military not including 74 my brothers, daughter and I served. What have some of you done for our country? Too busy bashing the president. How about doing something useful to help the country instead of tearing it down.

      It is sickening to hear idiots and stupid [offensive word removed] make comments about my president. In fact you are saying that my children and all of my brothers and sisters children’s birth certificates are or maybe fraud. You all really need to get a life and put your noses where they belong. Neither the president nor I or any of my children have to show you our birth certificates. The law was satisfied, his has been checked just like they did my brothers, me and my daughter when they investigated us for top secret clearances.

      Those of you who do not believe are a bunch of fruitcakes. This is my country as much as it is yours. In many cases more than some of you who have never served or done anything other than take and think because you were born here gives you that right.

      Find something positive to do instead of allowing a fruit cake sheriff to poison your mind with lies and hatred.

      Maybe, just maybe, if you do something positive for yourself and your fellowmen, this country would become great as it once was. This luster of this country is worn out because of the negativity that many of you spout.

      • hoov

        Of course it looks like your children’s birth certificate. Are you not listening?
        Also, you forgot to mention the hatred spread through or schools by the liberal department of education and rewriting history to demonize the Constitution.

      • factnotrhetoric

        Sam,
        You took offense because this certificate looks like your children’s birth certificates.

        Please believe me, that I am thankful for all that you, and your family, have done and really wish my family could claim 1/10 as much, but we can’t.

        But you missed the point. Obama’s birth certificate would not look like your children’s birth certificates because things were done differently when Obama was born. They did not issue that type of birth certificate when Obama was born. This was issued twenty years after his birth, whether it is real or not.

        Obama’s true birth certificate would be on Microfilm and would look nothing like your children’s birth certificates. This Obama birth certificate, fraud or not, was a reissued birth certificate, not the original. This is not the original Obama birth certificate. That’s on the Microfilm that was stolen.

      • Patti

        Cool down Sam – have you also forgotten freedom of speech in your haste to show your superiority of all? One doesn’t have to serve in the Armed Forces to be a true American, but I give Thanks to all that have served, including my ex-spouses and their families. I was a “Navy wife” for 40 years. Police, doctors, nurses, teachers, librarians, boy scouts, girl scouts, included serve their country as well.
        We were stationed in Morocco and not allowed to have a flag in or around our home. The only place an American flag was seen was at the admin building, and inside the galley and then in Rabat at the embassy. Don’t you think I love seeing that flag fly every time I see it now – anywhere I am? It is MINE!!!!!
        The problem with POTUS is that he has required all others to show absolute proof of their eligibility while paying millions to hide his history from us.His own family claims his birth as Kenya.Neither parent was military, so that alone does not give automatic citizenship. He was adopted by his mothers second husband, also an Indonesian, which voided any US citizenship (if one existed), yet there are no records. It is the fact that he has not shown the proof as asked to quiet the doubts. All the while, as things are happening in the news, in the background he is chopping away at our Constitutional Amendments, the latest is the 1st Amendment which prevents anyone to gather near an important “figure” is else be arrested – even if we did not know they were present. It is connected into Amendment 14 and then 16. All the while, the public is focused on issues of rising gas…or who is the better candidate. He’s laughing, as Sharia Law is going to take place before we can spell supecalifragilisticexpealidoshus.

      • Corrine

        YOU are not on the same page as the rest of us….open your eyes and ears !
        Wyh did he spend over 2 million dollars to seal his records ? Along with all the other crap he’s done….spend all our money, pushing up the price of gas, putting holder in charge ?!?!?

      • Smilee

        factnotrhetoric says:
        March 2, 2012 at 10:28 am

        Wrong!! Most states if not all issue current birth certificates very different from the original which are no longer legal valid birth certificates. My original was no longer valid when I went to get a passport and I had to order a new one and the same happened when I applied for my SS and other pension benefits. Two things are different there is less information on the new (it certifies that all is recorded without giving all the specific information) one but the biggest difference is that the new once must have the state seal in raised form embedded in it. This is done so that valid legal copies of it cannot be made by anybody but the state, in other words it cannot be duplicated. Factcheck.org got permission to examine Obama’s certified copy (the seal is what makes it certified) and photographed it from different angles as to actually show the raised state seal and the State of Hawaii told them that his birth was a matter of record and was recorded less than week after his birth. This is one of the reasons and there are many more why the courts have dismissed these cases. No one has been able t prove that it is not a valid and certified and recorded birth within a week of his birth and the state of Hawaii has clearly stated that. To believe otherwise you have to believe the state of Hawaii has committed a crime by producing a fraudulent one, which is so far fetched that only a fool would make such a statement without actual proof and to date there is none. .

      • Vicki

        Smilee says:

        Wrong!! Most states if not all issue current birth certificates very different from the original which are no longer legal valid birth certificates.

        Considering how often smilee has been provably wrong in this thread I am not likely to accept his proof by bald assertion about birth certificates.

        A quick check did not find any supporting evidence of smilees assertion. (Not that I am surprised by this)

      • samurai

        Well said Vicki, fellow patriot. You have to excuse smilee, for when he was born the doctor had butter fingers. Ergo, he slipped through his doctors hands and hit the floor head first. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Smilee

      Vicki says:
      March 5, 2012 at 4:09 am

      I have not been proven wrong, I understand your simple thinking processes and how you could believe that but not once have you or anyone proven anything except just how ignorant you appear in almost all your posts and sammie virtually in all of his. Hawaii does it that way as does my state and I expect all others as the federal government and most all state and private entities today require that your birth certificate be certified and that means an embedded raised state stamp has to appear on the birth certificate. Try getting a passport with the old type and you will soon find that out. This change in my state took place in 1970 and my youngest born in 1971 is the only child of mine who received this type when born the rest have had to get new ones with the new style and seal. It blows my mind how you people can makes such ridiculousness statemenst on something so cut and dried as this, It makes you look so stupid.

  • Giovanni

    If I was a reporter I would instantly assume that Arpaio has an axe to grind with the fake in chief,due to the investigation and the shanannigans that the Zero has put Arpaio thru,it is an uphill battle and I hope Arpaio’s evidence turns out to be true,but if what he says is true,then he has very powerful people who will make sure Arpaio s work get s tainted and dismiss the whole thing as looney….plus they have the “Arpaio had an unfortunate accident” option standing by,but it won t get to that bc the media is the other enemy of Arpaio….tough tough work.

    • Franko

      Let’s not forget that I AM HITLER II now has at his disposal the new NDAA law so that he can simply have this fine Sheriff “disappeared without a trace” as he will do on the orders of his puppet masters – like Henry Kissinger and George Soros… At this point, sadly, nothing short of armed rebellion will depose the BLACK HITLER OBERMEISTER, who will certainly not refrain from having a Black Flag incident created so that he can impose Martial Law on the sheeple “for your own good”…

      • factnotrhetoric

        Franko, I disagree 100%.

        An armed rebellion is exactly what Saudi Puppet Obama, and the Saudi Dictator, want.

        They would die laughing at Americans killing Americans.

        They would then use the NDAA to overthrow America, suspend the constitution, suspend congress and turn America into a Saudi Dictatorship.

    • Vicki

      Giovanni writes

      If I was a reporter I would instantly assume that Arpaio has an axe to grind with the fake in chief,due to the investigation and the shanannigans that the Zero has put Arpaio thru…

      If I was a reporter I would instantly assume NOTHING and would have checked the timeline and noticed when obamas department of (mis)justice started harassing the sheriff. I would have noticed when Arizona first came under attack from the DOJ and I would notice when the questions about obama’s history started and by whom.

      • factnotrhetoric

        That would be true if the reporter were not trying to whitewash the entire incident to be able to still get part of Obama’s Billion Dollar Advertising Budget.

        No mainstream reporter will print any of this. They’d get fired on the spot.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Giovanni: If I was a reporter I would instantly assume…

      Jay: Based on your above statement, are we then to assume, that if you were a reporter, all your reporting’s, would be nothing more then assumptions? Duh…

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Giovanni,

      If you were a reporter with that attitude you would be up for a job with the MSM.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Ron

        So tell us Bob, who is the reporter here, and why are you not working for Fixed (FOX) news?

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Ron,

        Fox News is just one part of the corporate/government propaganda machine designed to foment the false right/left paradigm and serve as the ministry of truth for Saudi Oil shieks and drum up neocon perpetual war. I wouldn’t stoop so low, and they would fire me faster than they did Judge Andrew Napolitano, who got canned for delving too close to the truth. Truth is not the goal of the corporate media.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        LoL…excellent post, Bob…short & sweet.

        God Bless ya.

  • sesame

    “Most likely” is not a determination. It’s a wish. How unbiased were the investigators? Who were they? The sheriff is already under facing charges. Hardly an unbiased investigator.

    • D Y Kno

      I am simply amazed that they allow people with such a low intelligence as yourself to post comments to this article… everyone who has the IQ that God gave a canary (and uses it) knows that the document is trash the moment they laid eyes on it, and see that it has been faked by someone very new to photoshop…

    • D Y Kno

      I am surprised they let people with as low an IQ as yourself comment here… Everyone who saw the “document” knows that it was faked by someone new to photoshop…

    • factnotrhetoric

      My understanding is that the Sheriff’s charges, by Obama, were dropped almost immediately.

      The Sheriff is no longer under investigation.

      Obama first filed these charges months after the investigation had been underway.

  • Rennie

    SHARE THIS ARTICLE WITH EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cheryl

    Reading some of the comments in this post also show why our country is in deep trouble.

    But, the bigger point here, and I think a lot of us feel this, there is an “undercurrent” that you can feel; like something is going on, but you can’t quite put your fingers on it.
    There is so much going on behind the scenes. But Obama is not smart enough to accomplish all these things on his own. Perhaps… someone else is behind all of this. Someone who is bigger, and “untouchable” and has more money than all the governments in the world combined. Someone who perhaps has ruined countries before. Ruination is where the United States is headed if we continue on this “predetermined path” that we are current towards.
    In order to understand what is going on, we cannot just pick and choose what we want or don’t want to hear. We have to listen to it all. We have to put the pieces together. For example, why is there only one news channel that is not leftist? How do all the players stay in place, even when their resignation is called for when we ALL know they have been wrong? Why is this administration hell-bent on leading us into socialism? There really is an agenda. And the agenda is to bring the United States to her knees under the corrupt powers that be who are really ruling her now – and not just the “known” rulers. Sounds like a conspiracy theory? It is and it is very real. Obama is NOT our savior. He is leading us to socialism. All the entitlements and dependence on the government for existence – instead of our reliance on God – is taking us down a very dangerous path that I don’t want my grandchildren to be a part of.
    Wake up America before it is too late? Want to know more …go to GOOGLE and type in the following: who is the puppetmaster soros

    • factnotrhetoric

      I agree. That’s a video series every American must see. But George Soros is just a another puppet. He dances to the money of the Saudi Dictator.

      But I also disagree with you. This is not about socialism. Socialism would want to keep the government financially secure so they could redirect the money to the poor.

      This group wants to bankrupt America, destroy the American Democracy, cause riots, and replace our democracy with a Saudi Dictatorship.

      Look Around. The same thing is going on all over the world. Look at Syria. Look at Greece. Look at Iran. It’s called the ARAB SPRING RIOTS.

      The Saudi Dictator pays Al Qaeda Terrorists and Muslim Brotherhood Terrorists to go into countries and incite riots. Riots are used to overthrow governments.

      PAID RIOTS => MARTIAL LAW DICTATORSHIP => REPLACE THE OLD GOVERNMENT WITH A DICTATORSHIP

      In America the ARAB SPRING RIOTS are called OCCUPY RIOTS and yes the Saudi Paid Muslim Brotherhood took out many of the permits, in different US cities, for the Occupy Riots. The Saudi Paid Muslim Brotherhood train protesters to turn peaceful protests into riots. The Saudi Paid Muslim Brotherhood is known as “Anonymous” on YouTube. Anonymous is constantly calling for RIOTS, even in Greece, Syria and Iran.

      OCCUPY RIOTS => SAUDI PUPPET OBAMA MARTIAL LAW DICTATORSHIP => SUSPEND THE CONGRESS AND THE CONSTITUTION

      No this is not about socialism. These are bloody, genocidal, Hitler-Like, Saudi Dictators controlling the strings of our administration, the strings of Saudi Puppet Obama, and the strings of George Soros.

    • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

      Cheryl & Factno…see my comments above.

      Indeed…the Conspiracy is so vast…it boggles the mind. Only an informed public can begin to try & reverse that which has been done to us. The only way to inform the masses is to begin investigating and speaking about that which is not EVER spoken about…and that’s the secret societies influence on not just America…but the world as a whole. Follow the time line, the money trail and the body count…you will come to the same conclusions that I have.

      God Bless.

  • Richard Walker

    I am writing this to those of you who are criticising Sheriff Joe and especially “absolutely amazed”.

    I ask everyone to look around and see what is happening in this country. Although it was founded upon the concept of freedom of the individual to pursue happiness as the individual defined that concept, along with with the basis of law being that defined in the Bible (but with the provision to protect the minority that did not believe in it), it has declined from this idea of individual responsibility for individual actions into a socialist “the government is responsible for my individual happiness and prosperity” mentality. This is the result of over 100 years of secular progressive (liberal) human centered (as opposed to God) education and thought that has brought the country away from what has made it great. Ask yourself the question “Who is responsible for me and my happiness, me myself or the government?”. Your answer will define you as a person and a citizen. If you answer that you yourself are responsible then you are an American, regardless of where you came from. If you answered the government, then you should go back (or immigrate, if you were born here) to one of the European socialist paradises.

    For me, when I compare what I have seen in the world to America, it is blatantly obvious which system of government has produced the most wealth (along with the most individual freedom) in the history of the world. America unleashed the power of individual freedom to pursue whatever objective the individual desired (as long as that did not interfere with the same pursuit of another) and allowed for each to keep for themselves the fruits of their labor after contributing a fair share for the common good. If you want to see why socialism will invariably fail, it is because it ignores this basic human trait of “If I make it I want to profit from it”. The socialist mentality demands the individual to give based on ability to produce so those with need will also share in the wealth. Everybody gets the same, regardless of effort. The Soviet Union is a prime example of the failure of such thinking. If you don’t get to keep the fruits of your labor, and receive the same as one who does not produce, you are not going to work very hard at producing unless you are compelled by the barrel of a gun. And what you produce will not be of any quality either. Compare a Lada to a Cadillac and you will see what I mean.

    When I see someone like “absolutely amazed” criticising conservatives because they “exploit” the masses by making them work in mills I get angry. No one is forcing anyone to work in a mill, and without the capital investment of building a mill there would be no work for anyone. It is also not the obligation of the employer to provide health care insurance, at least not until the socialist government now in power mandated it. That was always regarded as a perk. And the last time I looked, I did not see any guarantee for the right to have a job, or a house, or good health, or any of the many other things people have come to regard as their “rights” in the Constitution of this country. We all have God given rights here, and the Bill of Rights enumerates what the government cannot do to infringe on those rights. These rights are now continuously under assault by the socialist progressives. Once these protections are gone, “absoilutely”, they will be gone for everybody and you might as well go live in North Korea or Zimbabwe because that is the direction those you seem to agree with are taking us. I have been to Zimbabwe and watched a prosperous and wealthy country turn into a wasteland with rampant crime and disease abounding. You go live there, and I will stay here and try to turn America back into a country where I am free to achieve and keep what I work for.

  • castaway

    All I can say is there will sure be lots of unhappy people here in the USA In 2016, when there is no election. because of a commy take over was succesful.

    We are being taken from within, and no one will do a thing to stop it. Good luck sheep!

    • Vicki

      If obama were to loose the election in 2012 they might not wait till 2016. Kinda depends on who wins.

  • david

    The birth certificate aside, there are two other issues which are really troubling regarding Obama’s citizenry: 1) He got a scholarship (FUlbright?) which was only for foreign students. He either lied to get the scholarship or he’s lying now. 2) He went to Pakistan at a time when Americans with American passports could not. He either had fake ID at that time or he does now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

      Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul’s campaign are faltering. When will one or all make this an issue? I understand why it was not made an issue until a law enforcement investigation was committed. However, that’s been done by the great patriot Sheriff Joe. It can wait no longer. Simply demand that Hussein produce his records. Make no other request. Let Hussein show that Sheriff Joe is a fool, if he can. Let;s get this crap over with now! The MSM cannot ignore this issue if one or all of the three also-rans stand up and begin shouting about the issue. Trump did and his ratings skyrocketed. Not only will it b=rings untold of publicity to campaigns that are faltering but it will bring the exposure that is required. I also believe it will stop the Mitt express dead in its tracks as he will not play with the issue. Of course, whoever does this stands the risk of assassination, just as as most probably done to Breitbarte whose last interview was with Sheriff Arpaio.

    • http://love4you Gary Martin

      SUCCINCTLY…the OBAMA TWINS are ”NOT” what they say they are….unquestionably the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American public.

      When the ”FULL” truth comes out many will hang their heads in shame.

      This would not be so bad if HE and SHE had not ”BANKRUPTED” the USA, defiled the constitution, by ex order scuttled the Judeo Christian tenor, created debt in the trillions and
      then went around the world appologizing for this once magnanimous, great nation.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
    “the original common law definition of an Article II ‘natural born Citizen’ . . . is a child born in the country to a United States citizen mother and father’ . . . .
    Obama fails this simple requirement.

    • Smilee

      This case only denied to women the right to vote and has no bearing on the definition of natural born citizen, it was rendered fully null and void with the passing of the 19th amendment in 1920 and today has no relevance to anything.

  • Pat

    The Liberal news paper asking Sheriff Joe his motives and the Posses. They got to be blind mice on that one. The investigation is about forgery at the highest order of America. That motive is one powerful order for any law enforcement position to take. That is why we have a great America,we have a great Sherrif in Arizona! Thank you Sherrif Joe for all you do!

  • Thor

    So, if Barrack Obama is not a ‘natural born’ US citizen and he’s not not a ‘natural born’ citizen, then perhaps we need a new word for what he is. How about ‘Afro-British-American’? No, that does not meet the challenge.

    He’s part white, part black, part citizen, part foreign, part socialist, part communist—with the body of a Democrat, the wings of a secular progressive, the head of liberal, the beak of a tawny globalist dragon, the tail of a Sorosian worm—all given life by the gaseous, etheric heart of a relativistic, living Constitutionist community activist—the whole of it nestled under a neatly wrapped Hijazi turban. What’s not to like if you are a socio-communist-globalist-elitist?

    Barrack Hussein Obama is—for lack of a better term—a socio-political chimera whom no one had ever heard of until the Lycianic methane of retributive Soro-Saudi-Rothschilean super-PAC reciprocity produced him and groomed him for the US Presidency.

    • noel

      and the iq of an icecube… OBAMANOS!!!

    • Vicki

      Thor writes

      So, if Barrack Obama is not a ‘natural born’ US citizen and he’s not not a ‘natural born’ citizen, then perhaps we need a new word for what he is.

      Though I am sure there are lots of people here that have opinions on what he is the only “what” that is relevant to the article is his citizenship.

      He MIGHT be a naturalized citizen. He might be an anchor baby citizen. He might be a citizen and he might be a natural born citizen.

      What we are missing is the proof. Evidence from his book(s) where he claims to be the son of Obama Sr, a British Subject, says that obama can NOT be a natural born citizen. He could still be one of the others.

      What would really be amusing is to find the “real” birth certificate and discover that someone else (an actual US Citizen) was his father. Someone so embarrassing that having the people believe that Obama Sr with all those problems is preferred as the father.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Vicki,

        Like Frank Marshall Davis?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Like Franklin Marshall Davis?

        Bingo, dittos, and bulls-eye!!!

      • Vicki

        Bob Livingston says:

        Dear Vicki,

        Like Frank Marshall Davis?

        Yes. Possibly :) Though since liberals were able to downplay the Jeremiah Wright / Obama connection they could probably hide the FMD influence even easier so I don’t see the embarrassment there.

        Interesting age difference between Frank and Stanley Anne.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Vicki and Jay,

        From Oct. 2009. http://personalliberty.com/2009/10/26/7949/

        Frank Marshall Davis—You won’t find Davis’ name on an organizational chart of White House staff, but he was instrumental in forming the political philosophy of Barack Hussein Obama. Called “Uncle Frank” in Dreams from My Father, Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), according to a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii. Obama has admitted to spending time with Uncle Frank—who he cryptically describes as being a person of some modest notoriety at one time—and listening to his poetry and getting career path advice. Davis may also have been a pedophile. Writing under the pseudonym Bob Greene, Davis wrote a debased pornographic novel entitled, Sex Rebel: Black (Memiors of a Gash Gourmet), in which he describes group sex encounters and sex he and his wife had with a 13-year-old girl named Anne. Davis died in 1987.

        Could Davis’ Anne be Stanley Ann Dunham?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Yes, Jesuit/CFR-controlled Islamic Freemason Barry Davis Obama is the 21st Century’s reborn Jesuit/CFR-controlled Episcopalian Freemason Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

      Socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Edward Kennedy and Zibignew Brzezinski “made” Obama just as socialist Roman Catholic Papal Knights Al Smith and John J. Raskob “made” Roosevelt. The Order’s endgame for both presidential “made men” was and is Right Wing Jesuit Fascism: blue-blooded FDR failed due to the providential interposition of ex-Marine Corps General Smedley Butler, but blue-blooded BDO (related to six American presidents) apparently will succeed in precipitating a military coup d’etat led by an Army General loyal to the Pope of Rome.

      The parallels between Obama and Roosevelt are both striking and fascinating remembering powerful American Jesuits brought both marionettes to power—”by hook and by crook.” Both men were puppets of the Archbishop of New York City via their clandestine association with the Cardinal’s Council on Foreign Relations (CFR); both were socialist-radical Democrats; both were gripping orators; both were winsome with their smiles and eye-contact, each personality possessing an approachable bearing and demeanor; both called for “Change,” which “Change” centralized more power in Washington while further destroying the White Protestant and Baptist Middle Class; both sought to openly lead the Pope’s “Holy Roman” 14th Amendment American Empire out of a Jesuit Georgetown University-plotted, CFR-executed economic depression in which both coadjutors played their assigned, devilish parts; both inherited said depressions from previous, CFR-controlled, Republican administrations, Jesuit Coadjutors Hoover and Bush obediently wrecking their economies; both were pro-communist socialists (FDR hosting Soviet Bolsheviks at the White House—according to FDR’s son-in-law Curtis Dall, as well as BDO hosting Red Chinese Communists at the White House on national television!); both attended apostate Protestant, pro-socialist-communist Harvard University; and both headed Harvard university news reviews.

      Further, both were connected to the Jesuits during their political ascendancy (FDR via the New York political machine directed by Archbishop of New York City Patrick Cardinal
      Hayes, and BDO by means of the Chicago political machine overseen by Archbishop of Chicago Francis Cardinal George; both would promote Jesuit-authored and perfected Fabian-Socialist-Communist-left wing—”secular progressive” (Oh! what a deceptive neo-fascist term constantly employed by Fox News Roman Catholic pundits Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly!)” solutions to deliberately impose economic depressions; both would promote a “Recovery Act;” both would plunge the nation into massive debt (FDR’s $500 Billion “New Deal” and BDO’s $24 Trillion “Bailout”); both would promote national, communal work forces; both would be advised by Jesuits during their tenures as “Commander-in-Chief;” both OPENLY pretended to be the enemies of the big, cartel-capitalist bankers on Wall Street while SECRETLY serving the interests of these very CFR-directed “robber barons” that put them in office; and both would impose a pro-Black and pro-Roman Catholic domestic and foreign policy specifically targeting the nation’s historic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant and Baptist Middle Class for its final, economic destruction. Indeed, Jesuit-imposed, Counter-Reformation socialism is the “Final Solution to the Middle Class Question,” that White Middle Class born out of the risen Son of God’s Bible-based Protestant Reformation.

      http://www.vaticanassassins.org/2010/01/jesuit-obamas-state-of-the-empire-doublespeak-and-deception/

      • http://gravatar.com/brotherpatriot BrotherPatriot

        Just…excellent work, Jay.

        God Bless you & Ty, Mr. Livingston for this site. (I believe this has been said on many occassions so you can take it to heart…that we all appreciate it.)

      • Deerinwater

        What a bunch of drivel, there no hope for people that consume such wild thoughts, spending months and years connecting their “dots”

        There no defense for such a hyperactive creative minds other then lock them up when it becomes clear them cannot cope in a free society and a hazard to themselves and those around them.

  • Dusted Eagle

    I can’t stop laughing. The official birth certificate says his race is “African-American.” That phrase, African-American wasn’t even “invented” yet! Do you know who invented it? If not, then you are one of the “morons” he says is the “average-american.” The race on all birth certificates, throughout the USA at the time of his birth was “negroe.” WAKE THE “F” UP, AMERICA! Inj his 60 Minute interview, he said, “I hate America.” Well, if so, then why did he run for public office? Oh, duh…….

    • Vicki

      I don’t see on the birth certificate the race of the child. I see the fathers race listed as African and the fathers birthplace as Kenya, East Africa.

      The race of the father is actually more intersting as it says “african” even though that is not what was commonly used at the time. http://www.ehow.com/list_7380602_race-used-1960-birth-certificates.html

      Now a good conspiracy reason to use the 1960s is that hawaiin BCs were openended as in you could put anything you wanted there so who could really say for certain that the race the father chose to use was “African”. Interesting that the mother was listed with a race that was in common usage at the time.

      Another interesting detail that I don’t remember being covered much is the date of the signatures of the parent and MD. One is dated on the 7th and one on the 8th of Aug even though the baby was born (supposedly IN a hospital in Hawaii) on the 4th. Why the interesting delay in signing the certificate?

      • Smilee

        It was used at that time for persons from africa not yet for US born black people.

      • Vicki

        Smilee says:

        It was used at that time for persons from africa not yet for US born black people.

        Let us look and see if smilee is correct.
        http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html
        look for “Race codes for reporting the mother’s and father’s race on the standard Certificate of Live Birth in 1961 were the same codes and were as follows:”

        Nope. Nothing about African in the choices of race.

      • samurai

        D’oh! :-) Good one Vicki. Sheesh smilee, aren’t you getting tired of your arse being kicked every time your turn around? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Vicki says:
        March 5, 2012 at 4:01 am

        I have children Obama’s age and I personally remember the term being used that way, if you would get your information from reliable sources and not those propaganda sites you referenced here you could not be so brainwashed as both you and sammy are because you both are incapable of thinking and reasoning for yourself

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Smilee puts up a very compelling arguement…must be the result of his/her intellectual superiority.

      • http://naver samurai

        You lie smilee, as you have no children. Before you posted that you were retired in Minnesota, now you want us to believe that a 38 year old single atheist man, like yourself, has children? If so, who is their father, because it sure isn’t you. You make yourself look less intelligent everytime you open your mouth. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Like we have stated, even Bob Livingston has stated in a prior post about the natural born question, “Both parents must be citizens of that country for their children to be natural born citizens.” Even the SCOTUS ruled on this in Minor vs. Happersett. Knock of your obviously less intelligent rants and start talking like someone with some knowledge. It’s a requirement if you have graduated from a college or university. Care to cite a source showing that I’m wrong? Didn’t think so. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of God and country to be a patriot.

      • Smilee

        Sammie

        You lying fool you, I am age 70 and have four children and 12 grandchildren. Where you get this stupid idea I am 38 without children is beyond me, it only proves how far out of touch with realty.are

      • Vicki

        Smilee writes

        if you would get your information from reliable sources and not those propaganda sites you referenced here you could not be so brainwashed

        I’m sure if you had any reliable sources to get your information from, you would share them with us. Their continued absence shows us how reliable you believe your own sources to be. Or, more likely they are like Obama’s birth certificate. They don’t exist.

  • FreedomFighter

    IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Jude

      AMENT TO THAt FreedinFighter

  • DAVID W. ALLEN, Sr.

    IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2008 TO PROVE
    YOUR NOT A RACIST, PLEASE VOTE FOR
    SOMEONE ELSE IN 2012 TO PROVE YOUR
    NOT AN IDIOT!!

    • eddie47d

      So you think voting for Romney,Santorum or Gingrich will make you Sane. Race was less a factor than you think but it does make for a great conversation to stir the pot David. Until you can figure out why Republicans have rejected Ron Paul’s principles and won’t respect him then you have an uphill battle on your hands.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        So you think voting for Romney,Santorum or Gingrich will make you Sane.

        Jay: Heaven forbid, eddie! The three amigos mentioned above should never be a consideration. They will only exacerbate our present quagmire.

        Race was less a factor than you think but it does make for a great conversation to stir the pot David.

        Jay: I disagree; race was more of a factor then you think. However, i do believe it back-fired. Yes, eddie, i’m playing the race card!

        Until you can figure out why Republicans have rejected Ron Paul’s principles and won’t respect him then you have an uphill battle on your hands.

        Jay: I think that both, you and i, know the answer to that! How many times have you stated that both parties are in cahoots, bought and payed-for-lackeys, of crony-capitalism? Are you suggesting that Obama, and his administration, transcend, are unaffected by such temptation? Might i suggest you invest consistency in your postings, as this will assure maximum returns, in credibility!

    • Mizblue

      Right On!

      • Deerinwater

        hmm? vote for an idiot to prove your not an idiot!

        I got it! Make perfect sense!

  • Dusted Eagle

    Anybody watch the early Romney verbal-fights? He said he was born in “Mexico.” DO WE NEED ANOTHER LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!??????

  • http://personallibertydigest gottaplenty

    Sherif Joe ,, I hold him in higher regard than any of the politicos trying to get in the potus office.. He has Guts, and that is not seen in any of the candidates , except maybe Paul . Give him all the support you can for a job that has to be done to get that piece of crap out of the outhouse. Keep it up Joe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    If you watched the press conference you would know that Arapio took pains to present just the facts and only the facts. That you are oblivious to the facts only illustrates that you are a shill for Hussein and his Bolshevik comrades who have seized control of our government by fraud and deceit.

    • http://www.tds.telcom.net hannah

      i did and my letter just disapeared,why?does oboma have that much control

    • Don Baer

      It is realy sad that such ignorance prevails today. It is even sadder that such bigotry accompanies the ignorance. Mr. Accord’s statement demonstrates both. And that’s what makes me sad.

      • AZ Don

        Perhaps you could explain just how John Accord’s statement is ignorant and bigoted. Anyone who, at this point, defends obama against the evidence presented by Sheriff Joe and the posse leader may very well be the bigoted ignorant one. This evidence along with the fact obama has gone to great lengths to hide his past like no other president also lends most reasonable people to suspect the worst. And that is, that he is illegality holding the office of president. People who have nothing to hide usually hide nothing.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

        Don– The only bigot is the one staring you at you in the mirror. Take your meds and maybe, just maybe you will have a short burst of sanity and cease your groundless rants against the Sheriff Arpaio and all those who simply want the facts verified about Obama’s background.

    • http://tguminey@yahoo.com ted guminey

      I am so furious this man was taken in imeadiatly by the press no one ever checked him out like they do republicans and even to this day the media (liberal) will not print anything on anything. donald trump is the only one who took obama to task and even at that no one opened it up . The birth certificate he showed was a fraud and where was the press. If this man is leagal why do he seal his records on his first day in office? Not o0nly is his birth certificate a fraud so is his draft card and his social security number. Where is everybody obama has used our money 1.5 million dollars hiding the truth and no news paper or talk show will challenge it. If nothing is done this man will ruin our country and everybody right with it. Hitler and stalin did the same thig wake up AMERICA before it is too late.

    • bobby

      I doubt anything will ever be done to impeach obama, his crooked machine will eliminate anyone who opeses him, just like the judge in georgia.

    • rph1945

      GO GET THE SOB EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HE IS BUT ARE AFRAID TO SAY OR DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTRY HAS ONE MAN THAT WILL THANKS JOE

    • Ted Crawford

      It’s not that I don’t care about this issue, I do, very much! It’s that i feel that the resolution of it is far too distant to be of any value before the election. Remember how long it took, even after it was proven, for Copernicus’s Heliocentric concept to prevail over the, established, Ptolemaic theory. If the powers that be, then the Pope now mainstream media, refuse to acknowledge the truth, the lie will prevail!
      I believe we are best served by focusing on his many, many failed policies!

    • Kurt Hanssen

      How is it posible after all the information that has been released about Husain that he steel is in power. we all know that he is ruled by the same power that rules the news media, but there got to be somthing that can be dunn about this conspirsy against the american people. It is werry frosterating to sit back and se this once so beautifull country going to the dog’s. Are wi all compleatly helpless, or is there a solution against this wor against we the people by this powerfull groop of goons. Is a rewolution the only answer. We are open for sugestions.Husain hated this country before he was elected, and his politik tell us werry clearly that he steel haiths this country. Financly he is braking the back on the U.S.A. I,am from eourope, and I know how to turn a country in to become sosialistic And Husain is falowing ewery steps in that direktion. Personaly, I’ strongly beliw that he is a radical muslim put in power to destroy this country from within, and he is doing a hell of a good job of it.

    • William Hutchinson

      It you say or prove the house and senate is going to let Obama do any thing he won’ts to do William Hutchinson

    • Egon J

      History repeats itself. Hitler rose to power with the help of the unions (Brown Shirts). When he reached his goal, the black shirts took over, disposing of the leadership of the brown shirts. They gave him 10 tens to achieve his agenda. He did it it in 6 years, and brought the world into chaos. Is this repeating here in the Americas’? I hope not.
      We must ever be vigilant. Wake up!
      Socialism is still alive, and on the move. Russia is the proof of it. Iran. . . Oh well, they will never learn.

      • Ted Crawford

        The Unions might be well served if they noticed that in May of 1933, after consolidating his power with the aid of these Unions, he OUTLAWED all unions in Germany!

    • ken

      This is the most unbelievable site I have ever seen. How did so many crazies gather in the same place at the same time. MY GOD, you are all incompetent, on drugs or possessed by martians.

      • RichE

        A clown with his pants falling down
        Or the dance that’s a dream of romance
        Or the scene where the villain is mean.
        That’s entertainment!
        The lights on the lady in tights
        Or he bride with the guy by her side
        Or the ball where she gives it her all.
        That’s entertainment!
        The plot can be hot, simply teeming with sex
        A gay divorcee who is after her ex
        It could be Oedipus Rex
        Where a chap kills his father and causes lots of bother.
        The clerk who is thrown out of work
        By the boss who is thrown for a loss
        By the skirt who is doing him dirt
        The world is a stage; the stage is a world of entertainment!
        It might be a fight like you see on the screen
        A swain getting slain for the love of a queen
        Some great Shakespearean scene
        Where a ghost and a prince meet, and everyone ends in mincemeat.
        The guy who was waving the flag
        That began with the mystical hand
        Hip hooray! The American way
        The world is a stage; the stage is a world of entertainment!

    • Donald Cole

      This entire birth issue is reeking of fraud. The foremost question on my mind is: Why haven’t articles of impeachment been drawn up? There is evidence of forged documentation concerning Obama’s eligibility to be President. Why has he not been charged? What do we have a Congress for?

      By the way, I have a new name for the Imposter-In-Chief, “The Obaminable Snowman”. And for the past three years he has presided over “The Obaminable Snow Job”. Meanwhile, half of the morons in this country . . . what’s left of it . . . continue to drink the Cool Aid. God help us!

    • Barbara

      You are so right and the American people still turn a blind eye to all that is happening. Are they still at the mall or what???

      • Deerinwater

        Well, did he tell you his office is under investigation for several infractions ?

        Was it told “That this posse is an all volunteer” posse?

        That it’s comprised of mostly retired peace officers that harbor a predisposition?

    • Buck

      John Acord , why are some of us astute enough to see the obvious and at the same time so many so ignorant they as to be deaf dumb and blind ?

    • http://suniljanah.org Arjun Janah

      Yo, ‘Bama is a Bolshevik, a Communist, all Red,
      An Atheist, and worst of all, a Muslim, whom we dread!
      He’s sneaked into the White House, although his dad was Black,
      His Mommy was a Socialist! I’ve got a heart attack!

      Ron Paul, he says, “Baloney! A Corporatist, he!
      So much the same as Romney, but not the same as me.
      For I’m a Libertarian. The government’s too big.
      But so’re the Corporations. So dance, with me, a jig!

      Let’s end the Fed, go back to gold, pretend it’s 1920!,
      The Empire’s gotten out of hand. We’re running now on empty.”

      But see, Iran is looming like a dark, sinister cloud!
      We’ve got to bomb it, AIPAC says, and AIPAC, it has clout!
      So see, Obama, bows and says to PAC and Netanyahu,
      “You’ve got to trust me. Netan, don’t behave like you’re an yahoo!

      We killed a million Iranians, when Saddam was our proxy,
      And I have killed Osama, so I’ve got my share of moxy.
      We’re good at killing, that we are! And you have lots of money.
      So I have come to let you know that we are Israel’s honey!

      We know that she has nukes and that’s okay, for so have we.
      But if Iran should dare stand up, we’ll make her bend her knee.”

      Oh cheer for corporations and those who rule the world!
      And know that those who question us, to hellfire will be hurled!
      Remember Hiroshima, remember Nagasaki. Remember the Vietnams
      Cambodias and other places. Iraq was Bush’s. Iran is ‘Bam’s!

    • http://amendment-13.org tonahistory

      John, IMHO, your comment “Hussein and his Bolshevik comrades who have seized control of our government by fraud and deceit.”, is correct to where you’ve specified; but doesn’t go far enough. Not only have they “seized control” of the government (shouldn’t be considered “our”), but they (latest in a long line of controllers) are totally in control of we citizen-subjects’ lives. We’re long past time to divorce ourselves from the federal government and restore ourselves to the sovereign state status citizens enjoyed up until the War of Northern Aggression and the cruelly deceptive 14th amendment.
      The Wizard of Oz was an exceptional (and misunderstood) allegory about gold and what the approaching Federal Reserve Act and consequent institution would come to be in our lives. Glinda, the good witch in the Wizard of Oz advised Dorothy that she always had the power to get herself home. We citizens have the power; but have been purposefully kept in the dark by the federal government so it can keep us in thralldom for continuous access to our wallets.

    • Big Jim

      Any body worried about the treason being commited by this social run away goverment HELL NO you don’t so why would anybody go after this guy with the proof in his hands…Face it everybody we lost,the only way left is to fight for it and i am sad to say nobody is fighting the right way…

    • Charley

      Firefight;

      I just found this forum; been here all of 10 minutes now; I agree with your reply to “Absolutely Amazed” 100%; we think like twins !

      Charley

    • sj

      If as the evidence suggests, we have a blatant fraud in the Whitehouse there is no issue of more importantance to us all than routing him out and appling the rule of law to him that he sought to distroy.

    • Mizblue

      Why doesn’t our judicial branch of the government stand up and impeach and try our so called President for treason? Why doesn’t our Congress demand an investigation of this scandal and the many others? If it was a Republican president, the liberals would have had him tried and jailed immediately And worst of all, why do the people of this country sit by idly and do nothing but reelect this beast. I don’t blame Obama, it’s the voters who keep electing him. I think the collective I.Q of the voters in this country is around 80. And to keep putting their heads in the sand isn’t going to make things any better. We are doomed if this continues.

      Your messages need to get out to the liberals in the U.S. We conservatives already are aware of the problems. We also need to get a strong candidate to run for the next election. And we need to play as dirty as they do. It takes a monster to kill a monster!
      I think Newt Gingrich is the smartest of the candidates but the liberal media have attacked his character for years and of course another good candidate will not be the Presidential candidate again. We allow the liberals to assault all of our candidates and we need to play their game.
      With suckers for voters in this country we cannot win an election.

      Everything you say is so true. They start them out in the schools to be liberals and again nothing is done about it.
      Keep up the good work and maybe with any luck Obama will stumble and fall. Who knows. I get so depressed reading the things he gets away with that I hate to read my emails anymore. It keeps me up nights.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Obama’s entire past remains a mystery under lock and key. Obama has spent almost $2 million in legal fees to keep his life Top Secret, not counting millions in tax-payer funded road blocks thrown up by Obama’s Justice Department, which has sent numerous federal attorneys into court after court to file dismissal requests on the basis of “standing” – with great success. They don’t want the courts to ever decide Obama’s Constitutional eligibility on “merit,” because if discovery ever goes forward and Obama’s files are opened up, Obama is finished and so is his Marxist Global Agenda!

    Make no mistake. the courts have clearly ruled that NO AMERICAN CITIZEN has the “proper standing” to ask even the most fundamental questions about Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetoro). The American press has not only ignored these facts, but mocked anyone willing to ask the right questions, of the right people, in the right way.

    When an unconstitutional resident of the White House rushes a laundry list of unconstitutional policies through, including the use of the Military against U.S. citizens, against the demands of the American citizens, it’s time to ask some very serious questions, and the American people deserve no less than honest answers.

    • Smilee

      This is purely political, the plaintiffs always file the suits knowing they will get thrown out because if it went on to discovery the real truth came out, they would be proven to look like the idiots they really are, except those that the states have filed to keep him off the ballot and the soldier which the courts have ruled on and in all the plaintiffs lost. As long as they keep throwing them out they can keep suckers like you on the line but if it went to court and they lose which any attorney knows you would then no longer would you be on their line. It would help if you actually understood the Constitution and how courts work then you would not be so duped. They are using you sucker.

      • samurai

        And this coming from a person like you that doesn’t have the mental capacity to fulfill the requirements written in his own posts? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        LOL Your such a JOKE, when I have run you out of real words you come up with these stupid ones that are never used in intelligent dialog

  • sesame

    Learn to live with it. Even if it were true, no one in the leadership of ether party or the Supreme Court is going to upset the apple cart at this late stage. It would be far too disruptive. There are already court decisions that say that Obama was duly qualified to be President, so just get over it.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Learn to live with it.

      Jay: Learn to live with it? How? Just walk away, forget about it, pretend it never happened, doesn’t exist? Is this how you deal with issues in your personal life, sesame? I sincerely hope not!

      Even if it were true, no one in the leadership of ether party or the Supreme Court is going to upset the apple cart at this late stage. It would be far too disruptive.

      Jay: Yes, it would upset the apple cart, and, it would be very disruptive, as would a medical finding that reveals a curable condition, requiring a intrusive/disruptive, operation, that no doubt, would upset one’s apple cart. Would you opt out, refuse treatment, sesame, rather then upset your financial apple-cart, and avoid momentary disruption in your life?

      There are already court decisions that say that Obama was duly qualified to be President, so just get over it.

      Jay: Wrong, there have only been, submitted, and rejected motions to investigate. This is not the same as establishing guilt, or innocence! At the very least, sesame, be honest!

      • Smilee

        Three cases have resulted in court rulings, the frivolousness have all been thrown out. I think over thirty of them, I lost count.

      • samurai

        Care to cite a source smilee? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Smilee

      THERE YOU GO AGAIN!! Lazy sammie can;t do nothing for himself, like a little child demanding others do it for him. GROW UP sammy!!

      • Ted Crawford

        Well that makes it abundantly clear that you can’t, smilee. All that remains to be said is thank you Comrade Aliksky!

      • Smilee

        Already have researched it, I’m not lazy like you and sammy

  • LEE

    Way over 90% of the writers in this blog are conservative. IF we all vote in November we will end Obama at one term and minimize the destruction to our great country. EVERYONE PLEASE VOTE TO END THIS TOTALITARIAN REGIME.

  • Bob M

    Talk of waiting to HOPEFULLY vote Obama out of office drives me nuts! I do not want to be forced to support this racist, muslim, anti American immigrant, sob for the rest of his life, not to mention risking the possibility that he might actually get a second term.

    The founding fathers knew what the term natural borne citizen meant when they singled out the executive office holder, requiring him to be borne in the U.S. of parents BOTH of whom also borne in the U.S. As the person Obama claims as his father was not an American citizen, Obama is not a natural borne citizen, as such, it is clear that he should never have been allowed to run for president. That being the case he should not be allowed to honorably exit the White House at the end of his term and he should not be allowed to retire on the tax payer’s dime. What’s more given that the facts of his parents citizenship are not in dispute I wish someone would explain how in hell the obamanation is able to continue by allowing him on the ballot for yet another term as president.

    Add to that the findings of Sheriff Joe’s investigation in regards to the bogus birth certificate and selective service card. While our elected officials in Washington waste time diddling with Holder and the never ending saga that is Fast and Furious this imposter is destroying our country and our reputation abroad. Each of our esteemed senators need to get a pair, stand up and put an end to this now.

    One more thought. Since it seems quite clear that Obama is not legally qualified to hold the office of POTUS, nothing he has done in the past three years is legal, none of his appointments, none of his executive orders, nothing he has signed into law is valid. Now this could be considered a good thing, except that it will be challenged, we will be debating and adjudicating and interpreting this mess for the next two hundred years if we don’t deal with it now.

    • jarhead77

      Hey Bob M, we should hold accountable all the useful idiots in congress that vetted the POTUS and toss them all in jail for treason..how about that for closure!!

  • RichE

    I like #6
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
    1. Anyone born inside the United States *
    2. Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    3. Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    4. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    5. Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    6. Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    7. Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    8. A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    • Doug Rodrigues

      Okay, now define “Natural Born Citizen?” Obama isn’t a Natural Born Citizen.

      • RichE

        Doug,
        I’d define natural born citizen as someone born within the United States, but I’d question why the word natural. Wouldn’t a natural born citizen be a subset of citizen? The Constitution says a natural born citizen or a citizen… Why make that distinction?

        US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
        No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

  • Wyatt

    Sadly we already knew all this already . It is even sadder that it cost the people of Arizona and the investigators money to get to this point where , perhaps the courts will look into this and the Main Stream Media will start asking questions and demanding answers as obviously a well thought our and wide spread coverup and plot to defraud America and her people at the very least and possibly an attempt to take over the government and enslave America in a Communist form of Dictatorship .

    If the present administration can’t or won’t produce answers to these questions of eligibility then it should be voted out of power or forcibly removed from office by court ordered agents of the Government . In any event , prison time is appropriate for all involved as well as MAJOR FINES !

  • jopa

    Who is Sheriff Joe?He is about 80 years old watched too many episodes of the X-Files and he likes men in pink underwear.He has been in the Arizona sun too long and, wasn’t he just threatening his boyfriend with deportation if he told.What gives with these Republican men wearing pink underwear.According to the coroners report Breitbart had them on too.

    • FreedomFighter

      I had Elvis the talking bird read your post:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWvAi5opqTA&feature=fvst

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      A more fitting question; Who is jopa?

    • Vicki

      Jopa writes

      (ad hominem attacks removed)

      No points. No arguments. Nothing useful.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear jopa,

      You write: “He has been in the Arizona sun too long and, wasn’t he just threatening his boyfriend with deportation if he told.” Wrong Arizona sheriff. I’m sure it was an oversight on your part and not an intentional deception.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Libertytrain

      jopa has once again reminded all of us how classless the lib left really and truly is….even mocking a newly dead person…. very sleazy, very low. Very vile. You have no credibility -

  • noel

    boy do we need to get rid of our manchurian president. how folks could be ignorant enough to elect obongo over a true patriot like mccain is unreal! OBAMANOS!!! before it’s too late!!!

  • Sam

    I have friends in Honolulu who indicated that on the “last” birth certificate that Obama presented (this was not the first!!!) that it is a obviously a fraud, as the maternity home listed as his birth place was not that name at the time that he would have been born in Honolulu… Obviously whoever did this forgey was not aware of the name change of the facility. People need to look deeper and I hope Sheriff Joe does just that.

    • Vicki

      http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/yes-there-was-a-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital-in-1961/

      Includes a photo of someone else’s Hawaiian BC with the same hospital name and same approx time.

      • Smilee

        WHY???? It proves nothing and I see all you can come up with is another of those propaganda sites that have so brainwashed you

      • Vicki

        Smilee writes

        WHY???? It proves nothing and I see all you can come up with is another of those propaganda sites that have so brainwashed you

        Most interesting since the link provided is to a site that supports the legitimacy of the LFBC. Are you now telling us that they are propaganda and have brainwashed you?

    • Bellagram

      Do you really believe that if, as you say, this was a huge conspiracy involving big money and congress, that if the long birth certificate was indeed forged, that they would have made damn sure that it was undetectable?

      • eddiew1

        Remember that picture of Obama in a limo with a guy, who had his arm around him, and Obama was smoking a marjuana cigarette? That guy sued Obama in Grand Rapids Michigan, for a huge amount of money Obama owed him, as they were in a homosexual relationship…these were the court papers of that lawsuit, and even though Surrogate lives there, and could easily check the docket number, and access the lawsuit…brainwashed as he is, he refused to believe the court papers!! and would not even check them out to see if true!!

        • Bellagram

          I remember Obama admitting to doing drugs in college, but do not remember seeing a picture of him in a car with another man. If you remember that picture, it should be online somewhere. What happened with the suit – not following why the President would owe some man money because they were in a gay relationship – gotta be more to it than that. So what was the outcome? Where is your source? I will look at it and read it even if your *friend* wouldn’t.

          • eddiew1

            World News Daily had published the Court Documents, that’s where I got them, and I had read somewhere else that the guy got $100,000 from Obama, mainly to silence him, and get him to drop the suit…I guess Obozo, our Liar in Chief wanted to hush it up, as quickly as possible!! The guy WAS a really good looking fellow, but within just a few years really lost his good looks…dunno what happened!

          • Bellagram

            You are going to have to give me more than just that it was on News World Daily if you want me to believe this. That is one of the problems your side has in getting others to believe you, you never show an unbiased source and in some cases, no source at all other than word of mouth, or *I read it on/in …..* I was serious though, I am interested in finding out more about your allegation, and I am still not understanding why the guy was suing him – I can certainly understand why he may have been paid off, but not why he was suing in the first place. Do you remember the guy’s name?

          • Bellagram

            I went to the WND website and put “Obama sued by lover”, “Obama paid off lover”, and a couple of other like sentences in their search engine, but could not find the article of which you speak. Since you are familiar with it, maybe you can recall the language used and find it for me/ When was this? Were they reporting on something that had happened years before the 2008 election?

  • Colonel

    Just look at how the death of President Kennedy was covered up. The evidence lost and with each shooter eliminated to cover the trail was one of the world’s biggest cover-ups and you don’t think that Obama wasn’t another one? Money talks and that is power. Don’t drink the Cool Aid you won’t survive.

  • Marilyn

    The room was filled with liberal Journalists. That is why they didn’t want to know anything about the evidence; only why evidence was beeing sought. They asked the same questions over and over and Sheriff Joe and Attornney kept repeating the same answers but Journalists couldn’t back off of why evidence was needed. DUH! On behalf of the journalists, they were the dumbest of the crop.

    • Smilee

      This is pure politics, the justice department is investigating complaints about him and he is just plain mad and striking back and it keeps his base all fired up and his job safe unless of course he should in the end be convicted of something.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …”This is pure politics, the justice department is investigating complaints about him and he is just plain mad and striking back”

        Or could it be that the Obama/DOJ is targeting Arpaio because they don’t like his stance on illegal immigration and now they’re afraid of what he may turn up in his investigation???

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory to me…

      • Smilee

        I’m betting time will prove you wrong, the sheriff is out of bounds

      • AZ Don

        I don’t want to burst your bubble smilee but you got it backwards Sheriff Joe started the cold case posse and then the DOJ (holder) filed their complaints on Joe.

      • Smilee

        He knew it was coming

  • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

    Breaking: Team Breitbart To Release Damaging, Potentially Election-Changing Obama Tapes In 7-10 Days – watch the 2012 CPAC video
    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1839/818/NL/

    Starts to get interesting at minute 5:20…

  • Doug Rodrigues

    Interesting how the Left-Wing brainwashed Useful Idiots came slithering out from their pool of slime to vilify the messenger but not the message. Obama is a fraud. He has been proven to be a fraud, and nothing can change that. It is what it is, and you left-wing fools can never change it.

    • Bellagram

      I will need to see irrefutable proof of all these accusations before I will believe that the President of the United States is a fraud. The problem that I have is that so much of what is espoused here as *truth* has been debunked. Read somewhere that he received a Fullbright scholarship to Occidental College, which is a scholarship for foreign students. However, firstly the Fullbright is usually only given to graduate students studying for masters’ degrees or Ph.D. degrees, not for college freshmen and sophomores, and secondly, he was enrolled at Occidental as a US citizen. It was also said that he enrolled under the name of Barry Soetoro, but contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman ‘Lookbook’ published at the beginning of President Obama’s first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama, but people who knew him then called him Barry Obama. from here: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/. So when I know for a fact that some accusations are false, it is hard to believe that some others would be true when they come from the same place.

      I also read how *everybody knows* that ….., and obviously every body does not know. At least 50% of the US population does not think the President is a fraud (50% being the last Wall Street Journal approval poll) Do not think anyone would approve if they thought he was a fraud.

      When some of you list some of the things he has done in office and talk about how no one likes it, and call people who do commies and lazy welfare ******* that does not compute with me either. For the most part I approve of what he has done. A lot of my approval is because, I am a Christian who attends church at least once a week (sometimes more) and my Church teaches that we are to do for the least of these (Matt 25:31-46).

      • AZ Don

        If as you say he had a legitimate scholarship why is he keeping his records secret? Why is he so adamant about keeping them secret? Anyone who spends millions to keep something about their past secret is hiding something. Can you deny that?

        • Bellagram

          I thought I posted a link to Factcheck who debunked that. If you go there and then click on the links provided in the article it will take you to other sites that confirm their findings.
          http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-born-in-the-usa/ but here it is again. I have no idea why the President does not release his school records – maybe he thinks it has nothing to do with the job he does, and it doesn’t – or maybe he wonders why he should – have previous presidents released their school records, or maybe he thinks it is no ones business, and it is not.

          Have also read that some do not think he ever went to Harvard, let alone was president of the Law Review, but here is an article from the Harvard Law School website that confirms that also.

          I am not understanding why, if these things are so easy to find (I am not a computer whiz), why these false rumors still abound. That is why, for me, it is hard to believe anything else people say – since every time I hear something negative about him, it is so easy to find things that disprove it.

        • Bellagram

          How do you know he has spent millions to keep his college records secret?

  • charles

    why can any voter possibly call a foreign born muslum american hater call him a president let alone vote for him with all his forged dockements ive heard the muslum say on tv he was a muslum he wont honer the u.s flag but the muslum will honer the muslum flag wake up folks another 4 years and we will be a muslum nation if the muslum is illeagly elected again that bunch of crooks in d.c dont give a damn about the working folks as long as they can get more millions in payoffs to bolster their bank accts. more power to sherrif joe we need people like him in the white house

    • http://suniljanah.org Arjun Janah

      Yo, Bama, he’s a muslum, a terrrist is he!
      And ah don know ma spellin, so ah’ll go clamb a tree!
      It’s purdy in the tree-tops, a burdy is mah fren,
      He tol me bou that Bama, such thangs that ah can’t prin!
      He don believe in Geezus, he don believe in God,
      An he’s becam our presdin! Oh halp me, mah sweet Lawd!

  • http://aol Crystal

    Why is it that they know it’s fake but nobody does a thing about it????? This is very concerning to me. If it’s a fake then Obama should be removed from office and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
    But we don’t obey laws anymore do we???

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Courts continue to refuse, deny, and dismiss, any and all submissions to investigate, and this, at the insistence of Federal Attorneys, who file motion, after motion to dismiss on the basis of “standing”, at the considerable cost, may i add, to tax-payers! Congress as well, refuses to investigate. It appears we may have a “hostage-situation” on our hands, namely; our political system, more precisely; Our Country!

    • charles

      according to the aliein muslem he is the law and dicator he dosnt honer the constution or honer the u.s. flag but he honors the muslum flag he hates the united srattes he hates all working class colored or white the self admitted muslum is turning the u.s. into a muslum country another 4 years of this traitor and he will declare himself as ruuler and void all elections obama should be procuted for treason but that bunch of crooks in the whiye house dont care as long as they get payoffs under the table he doesnt allow christons to hold prair their but allowed muslums to do it drinch him in hog blud and put him in the toughest prison we have if we have one thats not a vacation resort anymore let sheriff joe have the muslum

  • Mimi

    To everyone who would like to follow-up on that birth certificate issue, I have watched 3 links on YouTube that are stunning and irrefutable. I don’t know how to ‘copy’ and ‘paste’ them, but I’ll give you the titles so you can find them on YouTube.” Dr. Herb Titus: Born in Hawaii Does Not Make Obama Natural Born Citizen” Part 1. This hopefully will bring you to the Part 2 link, and after that “The Truth and Past of Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro”, which is a dossier of Obama, from the beginning.

    • Vicki

      Just copy the link in the browser and paste it here in the text http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqeV0ZlZ1Cw like this.

    • Smilee

      Don’t be a sucker for political utube clips. With today’s technology they can create any fabrication in videos and you suckers believe them. They do not want you to know the real truth as that will not keep you mad and fired up.

      • Vicki

        Smilee. writes

        Don’t be a sucker for political utube clips.

        And your words are more reliable why? Actually you should worry. Since you are reading this we are already controlling all that you see and hear. (Outer Limits circa 1963)

      • samurai

        The libs are good at that too, smilee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        If either of you could understand the truth you would not need all those below the belt adjectives to describe you positions that you so often use, vicki and sammie, The truth will set you free, try honest research it works, propaganda does not it only brainwashes you and once brainwashed the truth becomes unattainable for you

      • Vicki

        Smilee writes

        If either of you could understand the truth you would not need all those below the belt adjectives to describe you positions that you so often use, vicki and sammieYou must have confused me with some other Vicki as I do not routinely indulge in ad hominem attacks. I will toss in one now and then for humor but I usually mark them as such.

  • Mighty Mitch

    All I have to say is, it does not matter whether or not if Obama was born in U.S.

    It matters that he is the worst president we’ve ever had.
    5 Trillion in spending in 3 years
    Bail outs that weren’t needed
    Legislating by executive order
    Printing of money
    Obamacare
    Cutting 100′s millions from our defense budget
    Green energy programs that arn’t working and still he allocates more money for them
    Affiliations that are suspect, Wright, Ayers, Farakahn to name a few.
    A foreign policy that leaves Isreal totally alone against mighty odds to deal with Iran
    52 million people on food stamps
    Regulation, regulation, regulation
    The Keystone pipeline
    Joblessness
    Foreclosures
    The list goes on and on

    This man has sngled handedly destoryed American and our way of life.
    And those in the media who are there to protect our interests let him and get behind him.

    I am crying right now for the USA a country that is dying under the facist hands of Barak Hussien Obama whom in his ignorance forgets that he is President of the United States
    a country of 320 million people. That makes him all our president not only the fortunate few whom he sees fit to work for he works for all of us.

  • jopa

    Mr. Bob Livingston;I stand corrected.It was a sherrif by the name of Babeau that threatened deportation of his boyfriend and then Babeau resigned from the Romney campaign..Gotta luv that Google for fact checking.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      You shouldn’t blame Google for your condition, jopa. The first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem. Smiley face…

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear jopa,

      That’s alright. I’m sure we all look alike to you.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Libertytrain

        Fabulously true statement — but do you think he understands?

    • DaveH

      Why don’t you try that fact-checking BEFORE you post a comment, Jopa?

  • Dan

    Go Sheriff Joe! Deport illegal alien #1!!! First step to getting this country back on track.

  • Richard Jauch

    The 5th amendment allows a person to NOT testify against his/her personal interests. Who and where did someone come up with this crap about “sealed papers”? Birth certificate 32018, when Googled or Binged will bring up Obama’s Birth Certificate. The foot print on that paper will be the same as the current foot print of Obama if we are allowed to see the bottom of his right foot. Foot prints NEVER change throughout life. What part of this is not understood by the folks who want to prove he was born in Hawaii? It is simple, but since he WAS born in the British Protectorate of Kenya he won’t let anyone see his right foot. He is a LIAR! Just watch for the used car salesman tactics coming to convince the ignorant voters to vote to re-elect him. It is disgusting that so many are involved in this deception.

    • AZ Don

      That is correct I have a copy myself and have had for some weeks.

  • http://marcel@rogers,com Marcel Brunelle

    Wow!~ I am a Canadian who loves America and her people. I visit often and have many American friends. May I say, None of the ones I have met and some who have become good close friends have expressed pride in having elected a colored person for president. They feel that at long last they can see the racist hate and descrimination that was such a poisonous evil, lose it’s place in American politics and life.
    By what I read in this article, I’d like to say it is NOT representative of the kind and generous people of America.
    Rise up from the hate and bigotry of the past and join todays open and tolerant society,
    A proud and American loving Canadian! God bless America!

    • AZ Don

      If I may I would like to attempt to explain to you what has happened in the last three years. Many of the folks here did vote for obama with that thought in mind. There are many very good people here. Even some that did not really support his stance on politics. That is not however, the way it worked out. Obama instead of being a president that promoted all races and brought the country together has promoted racism and bigotry and divided the country more than it has been divided since the civil war in the 1860′s. The very things you have assessed this article to contain, racism and bigotry, are being promoted by obama but you could add another problem, he also promotes class warfare. It would not be wrong to say obama has sat race relations back at least 75 years all by himsel

      What you and many others like you I suspect are missing in this article however, is it is not about racism. As a matter of fact race has nothing to do with it. It is a matter of legality. Most of us don’t care is obama is black, white, yellow, orange or pink. He must “legality” hold the office of president. If he is not “legality” qualified to hold the office according to the constitution which is the law of the land he should not hold the office. Do you folks in Canada have a problem with that?

      I have many friends in Canada. I have in the past never got into Canadian politics although it does seem to be a bit more liberal then the United States.

      One thing you may want to consider. If the United States of America falls from a free enterprise capitalistic, constitutional system of government into socialistic fascist totalitarian dictatorship permanently ruled by obama, it will not be long before Canada will be absorbed by the obama dictatorship.

      • Bellagram

        AZ Don – you said “Obama instead of being a president that promoted all races and brought the country together has promoted racism and bigotry and divided the country more than it has been divided since the civil war in the 1860′s. The very things you have assessed this article to contain, racism and bigotry, are being promoted by obama but you could add another problem, he also promotes class warfare. It would not be wrong to say obama has sat race relations back at least 75 years all by himself”. Could you explain how and when he did this? The only thing I remember is that pretty much right after he took office 1) Mr. Limbaugh said that he hoped the president would fail http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2009/01/16/limbaugh_i_hope_obama_fails, and 2) Mitch McConnell said his goal was to make Obama a one term president early in the President’s term, 3) the birther controversy started right away – all these things happened before Obama had done anything. There was suddenly this divide in the country from the beginning. The only thing Obama did was to get elected. I am not understanding why, all those things happened before he had enacted anything. Can you explain that to me?

  • Rich Stradling

    Obama better watch his back, if he’s a puppet in all of this like so many assert, he’s all but expendable by his handlers if he doesn’t get re-elected. Dead men tell no tales. Vince? Ron? Anyone?

    • AZ Don

      Sadly you may be right. As a matter of fact it is possible it does not even go to an election. If they see he is going to lose it may be just the thing they need to get another puppet in that can win and get the job done.

  • JKlapper

    First, what the “good” Sheriff Joe SAID was that his group of volunteers determined that it MAY BE a forgery, NOT that it WAS. What was actually said was as meaningful as saying that it may not be.
    Second, the type of entrance records that are referred to as “missing for the week …” are “missing” because at that point in our history they were NOT EVEN BEING CONSISTENTLY KEPT!
    There are many, many points on which one can legitimately critique our Cave-inner-in Chief. Doing so using incorrect and misleading evidence in my book rates as bigotry at best and sedation at a minumum, nothing more, nor less…

  • TUNAMAN

    WHY DO YOU PEOPLE WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO THE COLLASOLE IDIOT KNOWN AS ; ABSOLUTLY AMAZED!!! JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF HUMAN DEBRIE!!!

    • AZ Don

      I admit you are right, sometimes I just can’t help myself because they seem so stupid. On second thought all the current obama supporters do.

  • Carole Robinson

    I believe he is an idiot. Plain and simple. Can’t they come up with anything new? This is a dead horse that’s been beaten forever……get over it will you??

  • Joebob

    In 1961 when Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii, wasn’t it normal to give the child the last name of the mother in cases when the mother was unmarried, even if the father was listed on the birth certificate; also, those who voted for Obama voted for him because of race. Those who voted against him did so because of ideas. Who were the racists?

    • Ron

      My God, birthers are idiots.

      • http://naver samurai

        Are we looking in the mirror again, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Smilee

      That was the choice of the parents was then is now.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    List of Barack Obama’s Executive Orders – 2009-Present

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama-subjects.html

  • http://libertyalerts bill

    Get over it….he is not going anywhere and where do we get the idea that we really control anything such as elections………….bill I…………:)

  • TML

    “the White House-released Long Form Birth Certificate for President Barack Obama was most likely a forgery, probably produced on a computer”

    So, no facts… just presupposition ‘most likely’ and ‘probably’ based on a subjective desire to find some way to get Obama out of Office.

    “Additionally, the President’s Selective Service card was also a computer-generated forgery.”

    You need to provide the support for this assertion here, that such a card was indeed found to be a forgery.

    “Reporter Wayne Madsen wrote an exposé in 2010 that provided evidence that Obama may be a CIA creation.”

    That has got to be one hellava conspiracy for our own CIA to put a ‘foreign’, ineligible person in the White House.

    “According to the Posse spokesman, they have interviewed a retired government employee who was introduced to a young Obama in Bill Ayers’ mother’s yard. The government employee said he was told Obama was introduced as a foreign student they were helping to get an education in the United States. The spokesman said the individual is willing to come forward and make the claim.”

    So… according to a spokesman, who heard it from a retired employee, who was told (by someone else) that Obama was a foreign student. He said she said, is not very convincing in itself. Obama’s father was indeed a foreign student in Hawaii, which is how he met Obama’s American mother.

    “Absent a copy of a birth certificate, a legitimate copy of a birth certificate, we do not have a single document that proves Mr. Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the United States for that matter,”

    So… as long as we dismiss the Birth Certificate (which is ‘most likely’ and ‘probably’ a forgery produced on a computer) there’s not a single document that proves his birth in Hawaii. How convenient.

    “We believe a full-blown investigation is warranted because the people of Maricopa County have been defrauded, and the people of Arizona have been defrauded.”

    An investigation needs is warranted because the conclusion is already presupposed by saying the people of Maricopa Country and Arizona have been defrauded?

    I agree a full-blown investigation into the validity of the Birth Certificate should be conducted by an objective expert.

    Until then, I stand by Ron Pauls staff investigation which concluded the Birth Certificate to be valid.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      TML, neither Ron Paul, nor Ron Paul’s staff, investigated, or concluded Obama’s BC to be authentic. The fact is, Ron Paul refuses to touch the subject. Here’s an interview where Chris Mathews questions Dr. Paul on the issue of Obama’s BC.

      Ron Paul found himself being questioned by “Hardball” host Chris Matthews on Tuesday about an issue that a certain New York billionaire loves to talk about: President Obama’s much talked about birth certificate.

      “Is there something to it, based on what you have heard?” Matthews fished. “Is there any
      question that our president isn’t legitimate?”

      “From my viewpoint, obviously not, because I never bring it up,” Paul, the Republican congressman from Texas replied. “So I’m going to leave it to talk show hosts and to Donald Trump, and let you guys argue it out.”

      Strangely that answer wasn’t clear, or good enough for the veteran newsman. “No, no, but, no, be a — no, be a little more — no, this [answer] is a dodge,” Matthews said. “Is there anything to it?”

      “Not that I know of,” Paul said.

      Finally Matthews conceded: “You’re not a birther, sir. Thank you. We have given you the stamp of approval. You’re not a birther.”

      http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/ron-paul-is-not-a-birther.html

      • TML

        Jay says, “TML, neither Ron Paul, nor Ron Paul’s staff, investigated, or concluded Obama’s BC to be authentic. The fact is, Ron Paul refuses to touch the subject.”

        Well, I admit my saying that is based on a source of uncertain credibility

        http://szaboservices.blogspot.com/2011_07_03_archive.html

        Jay says, “The fact is, Ron Paul refuses to touch the subject.”

        However, that’s pretty much where I stand. I only recently engaged the entire scope of the ‘birther’ arguments and they do not hold up to scrutiny so far.

        The primary argument was to support the idea of natural born citizen requiring two citizen parents if born on American soil using the The Law of Nations by Emerich de Vattel in 1758 as evidence.

        Yet proposed evidence verbalizes the contrary, and I quote from the Law of Nations 1758, “I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen”.

        I read this as, “I say, that, in order to be of the country [natural born], it is necessary that a person be born of a father [person -singular] who is a citizen”

        So I consider it debunked, and that only one American citizen parent born on American soil is sufficient to be considered natural born.

        Of course, there is no question that two American citizen parents are required at the time of birth for anyone born outside the United State. So the only things to logically do now is prove that the provided Birth Certificate is a forgery, and then prove that Obama was born outside the United States.

        This is the purpose of this article, saying the birth certificate is fake, but does not even offer the supposed reasons why the certificate is ‘most likely’ or ‘probably’ a forgery.

        • Deerinwater

          But Joe’s”posse” said so!

  • TUNAMAN

    rightsfighter what a laugh! THE WHITE B$%^H WHO BORED THAT BASTARD CHILD KNOWN AS OBUMMER WAS FROM KANSAS! TO BAD THAT B%^&H DIDN’T GET TO MEET DR. TILLER!!!! THIS IMPOSTER WOULD BE A PROBLEM TODAY!!!!!

  • John Halden

    I beleive Obama is a fake. We will see video soon from Big Government website that will confirm his deceit. Of course, liberals would not believe it even if they saw him fake his certificate right in front of them. Cool Aid.

    • Deerinwater

      I think that they see it for what it is, an attempt degrade a duly elected sitting President when the General election failed to produce a desirable outcome.

      The primary purpose at this point( bearing mind, that the purpose has changed) is to take the matter to the court of public opinion in some effort to capture GOP votes, even if doing so requires voters to hold their nose.

      ( if there was solid evidence, the GOP would have been on it like ugly on an ape, 2 years ago.)

      it’s~ is you is or is you ain’t my babe, time for the GOP.

      Romney, Paul , Newt or Rick are all equals to any benefits that might be gained from this dog and pony show.

      SNL and all of their writers couldn’t make up this stuff!

      The puppet master are loving every minute of it!

  • georgesaufley@yahoo.com

    When it comes to politics and ambition people will say anything to get elected, power or get rich. I am 72 years old spent several years in the military and in the government if someone in authority wants something bad enough they will tweak norms, tell tall tales, indoctrinate, legally manipulate situation person is in and brainwash others If a grade school, high school or college student student told such a tall tale conspiracy story they would be sent to a Psychiatrist for evaluation. As long as Obama is getting results with the economy, calm the international world with an apology and get Osama Bin Laden. I feel that his actions demonstrate that he is ethical.

    • http://marcel@rogers.com Marcel Brunelle

      As an American loving Canadian I am disapointed in the nasty,unfeatered and often completely unfair and inacurate criticism being directed at President Barack Obama!
      I am 69yrs old and was once involved in politics as a Mayor of a fairly large City As I watch and listen to the likes of Rush Limbah and others of his ilk, I can’t help but ask why the good folks of America (I have friends in america who are distressed by the racisim surrounding your president) would not be fighting mad and downright outraged by having thier President, who was elected by the people of America treated as tho he had no right to lead or take strong positions on issues vital to the interests of America.
      Rush Limbah should be ignored, he is a festering pimple on the arse of a jack ass.
      OK, I’m a Canadian and an admirer of the United States, I often holiday there and love the American people who are wonderful and generous. How is it that Limbaug, this Pimple on the arse of a wonderful country, can even be taken seriously or even listened to.
      Yes I am a Canadian, One of Americans best friends, Change the channel when this jerk comes on. You’ll have a better day knowing you’ve taken away some of the power of a dolt!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

        Please remain in Canada, Marcel.

      • Smilee

        Marcel

        i also hear the same from my Canadian friends and relatives and also my friends and relatives in England and Norway. Many from these countries believe the below the belt attacks on Obama is a lot about racism. What else I find so interesting talking with them is that they have a better understanding of our politics than many in this country.

      • samurai

        Your family isn’t that big, smilee (kang). FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Well Sammie I do not know what you consider big but I have over three hundred relatives in Norway and many friends I am not related to and in Canada about fifty less in England and I am just telling you what they tell me but you in your ignorance always believe, if they do not agree with you they are know nothings when you in fact know nothing about them and more of know nothing than them

  • http://personalliberty.com/2012/03/02/cold-case-posse-determines-obama-documents-to-be-forgeries/?eiid= Niemand

    As in Smiley’s People: some organ or directorate was assigned to “create a legend” for a budding, covert agent provocateur, an unknown/young “Manchurian candidate,” a “package” inserted readily into this country thru its porous border. Ironically some affirmative action (good help is hard to find!), mid-level (these units don’t have “junior” level.) compartment employees bungled their photo-shopping!

    + ironically would not Christiaan Barnard, Manfred Mann, Dave Matthews, Gary Player, Basil Rathbone, Omar Sharif, & Roger Whittaker be extolled to find that, were they to emigrate to America, they would be fellow African-Americans w/Barry Hussein?

  • chuckb

    i doubt very much barry could identify his father. the people who offered him to us are not concerned about either.his citizenship or the fraudulent act. they know the republicans have no stomach for these kinds of investigations nor do they have a history of successfully prosecuting them. the bolsheviks could care less so we must sit back and shut up.

    we should not fear barry, we should fear the power that protects him and operates his mouth, he is nothing more than a mouth piece for a sinister operation controlled by people who are slowly destroying our christian heritage and any assimilation of it. they have successfully eliminated most of any symbolism pertaining to christianity in our publice schools and government offices. whether you confess religion or not, you should fear what this government is doing, it is your freedom they are taking, one law at a time.

    barry is ignorant of our way of life, he being a muslim (i believe), is being controlled by people who will destroy him in the end. the so called democrat trash such as pelosi and reid are just plain stupid ideologues who willing go along with this destruction, they don’t have a clue nor wish to come out from under the fog of a utopian lifestyle they lead in the political world, they are supported by ignorance.

    everything about barry is most likely a lie and the republican politicians fear any ridicule so they sit back and claim belief. repub;licans are genuine wimps..

  • http://N/A phillew

    I wonder if the number in the uppor right hand corner of the alleged Obama Live Birth Certificate is a consecutive number applied to all certificates of birth at that time. It appears to have been applied by a hand operated consecutive stamp device.
    Would it not be rather easy to check the certificates with the number before and the number after on other similar certificate copies? If the number is obviousoly out of sequence, it could be important evidence.

    • Smilee

      Wrong, this number was not assigned at the time of his birth but at the time he ordered this birth certificate, I believe it was in 2007 and is not sequenced by order of birth as you seem to imply. Clearly you know nothing about how vital statistics work today but act as if you do.

      • Vicki

        Smilee says:

        Wrong, this number was not assigned at the time of his birth but at the time he ordered this birth certificate, I believe it was in 2007 and is not sequenced by order of birth as you seem to imply. Clearly you know nothing about how vital statistics work today but act as if you do.

        It is really fun to watch smilee act like he knows things and accuses others of acting as if they know things. Interesting that smilee offers no evidence to verify that he actually knows anything.

        Let us look at some evidence to see if smilee has a clue. http://www.nosuchthingasanopinion.com/daily-commentary00002.php
        The S. Nordyke certificate has a number 10637. Obamas is 10641. Are we to believe that Nordykes certificate was ordered very close to the same time as obama ordered his in 2011? Or 2007? What was the reason for sending all those people in 2011 if he already had it in 2007?

        Let look at the COLB. It has the SAME number for Obama. How could that be? Unless they were all ordered at the same time.

        Now lets look at how Hawaii ACTUALLY assigns the numbers rather than what smilee falsely claims.
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2719487/posts
        http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292457/

        Now the REALLY interesting tidbit is that some say the Nordyke certificates are fake too. And that Obamas LFBC is made from those fakes and they were released to try and prove that Obamas was real should he ever have to release it.
        http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/nordyke-twins-birth-certificates-are-fake/

        This implys that smilee could be correct and the certificates were ordered either together or that the obama forgery really is made from the nordyke certificate.

        Now lets ask ourselves why ANY vital records office would loose track of the certificate number since that would be the primary index for the certificate. Especially during a time that computers were NOT the main method of storing information.

        Back to the LFBC. There are actually a lot of things odd about it.
        http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/02/vital-records-indicate-obama-not-born_29.html

        • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

          Smillee is obviously spreading disinformation and confusion. His comments are a joke. As a young lad I once worked in the vital statistics office of a county court and I assure you the number assigned was at the time of filing and not at the time a copy was requested. This guy is a Bolshevik troll defending with a wholly fabricated lie an alleged procedure he has invented out of whole cloth. Of course, the Obamaites will believe anything they are told.

      • samurai

        Why do you keep making a fool of yourself? Just stop with the nonsense. I guess smilee likes being choke slammed to the mat. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Vicki says:
        March 5, 2012 at 3:53 am

        You use five propaganda sites to support you position and all they have done is brainwash you. Try factcheck.org and others like it that use reliable sources and cite each and every source they use that supports their findings. Your not looking for the truth your looking for anything that will support your biases and what you want to be the truth not what is actually the truth. truly “Seek and you will Find”

      • Smilee

        samurai says:
        March 5, 2012 at 8:18 am

        Sammie has again run out of intelligent things to say, you know you never know when it is in your best interest to quit

      • Vicki

        Smilee writes

        You use five propaganda sites to support you position and all they have done is brainwash you. Try factcheck.org

        That you assert (without evidence) that ALL 5 of my links are to propaganda does not make it so. However for my amusement I went to factcheck.org to see what evidence I could find there. Lo and behold they had that very same number 10641 way back in 2007 or so. That really weakens your (provably false) assertion that the certificate number is assigned to the copy and is not the number of the original certificate.
        http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/

        How embarrassing for you that your requested valid source should provide evidence for my assertion.

        Now let us discuss the other point I made that you carefully ignored. Let us assume that the LFBC (and the COLB) are both genuine. They are prima facie evidence that Obama is NOT eligible to be POTUS as his father was never a US Citizen. Being a US Citizen is easy. Being an NBC requires a bit more.

    • Smilee

      John Acord says:
      March 5, 2012 at 7:15 am

      John why not go to your vital statistics office and ask them how they do it today rather than shooting your mouth off about something you obviously know nothing about with regardm to the current way. I have and you sir are wrong!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

        You are really outrageous and destroy with this comment what little credibility you seek to maintain. I doubt you are capable of counting change!

      • Smilee

        If you were not so lazy you could find out for yourself but then you would know you are also wrong and I suppose now that would be embarrassing for you

  • Buck

    There is nothing new here . Anyone with a brain knows he is ineligible to hold this office for any number of descripencies and wasn’t properly vetted . The progressives that put him in there covered for him so he could run roughshod over the constitution and any opposition could be silenced with the race card . Demonrats are evil , not stupid .

    • Smilee

      Coming from someone who seems to clearly not have a brain is amusing

      • Vicki

        Just another ad hominem attack by a liberal. Nothing to see here.

      • samurai

        The personal attack. Classic liberal strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

      I wish Hussein’s masters were simply progressive or liberals suffering from delusions that they can get something for nothing. They are dedicated Bolsheviks or hard line Communists dedicated to destroying this nation and imposing a bloody tyranny. Stop talking about these people as if they had any respectability. They do not, they are our enemy and need to be treated the same way you would a car jacker or serial murderer. They are out to kill you. Keep that in mind when you place a label on them.

      • Smilee

        WOW, you are so delusional, have you no shame??

  • Greg

    The end of America The Super Power, you better get use to China being your boss very soon.

    • Deerinwater

      Hahah! in your dreams, It’s always been lead, follow or get out of the way.

      You are not leading, your are not following and you seem to refuse to get out of the way.

      You stay, here Greg, I’ll be right back!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      It ain’t over till the fat lady sings, Greg!

    • http://naver samurai

      Not on my watch! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jopa

    Dear Mr. Livingston: I am white I am pretty sure you are and libertytrain I am not sure what he is.So as to your comment that we all look alike I do find that confusing.I have heard people over the years saying that about blacks thinking they were some sort of comedians, was that your intent?

    • Libertytrain

      oh poor dear jopa….misconstrue everything..

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        zoooom…right over jopa’s head… :)

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear jopa,

      I have read your comments for some time, and I know your mind. Your response was exactly as I anticipated. I care not a whit about your race, nor any other. Race is irrelevant to me. It was not a part of my comment. However, it plays a big part in your mindset, as your response proved.

      I used a turn of phrase. You see all conservatives as the same, as a racist sees all of a certain race as the same. You could not be more wrong, just as the racist could not be more wrong.

      Once you begin to read for comprehension the articles and opinions by the writers on Personal Liberty, you will come to understand this. At that point your education may begin. Until then, you will remain trapped in the false left/right paradigm and you will never see the truth. You must understand that conventional wisdom is an enemy to truth.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Big Jim

    We have now become a nation with a false leader what will people do looks like nothing much. Where are the BRAVE AMERICANS to bring up charges of treason on all the administration?????I remember another person that they threw out of office….The man was Nixion and he did allot less of a crime then is being commited now…Where are the true Americans rise up you new lawers and newly elected Americans rise up and save my fellow Americans….. God help America i pray everyday my friends on the internet

    • Deerinwater

      After all the people killed, money and 10 years time wasted from “W” mushroom cloud lie and you got the gall to speak like it never happen and worry about someone stealing White House paperclips?

  • Deerinwater

    The people of Arizona needs to take back their state Government for these noise uneducated idiots that are attempt to run rough shod over their state where the biggest employer of the state is the State!

    That’s right! If you want a job in Arizona, you probably need to kiss one of the “powers that be” back side to get it and keep it.

    Or you could go to work for the state’s second largest employer , Walmart!

    That is quite a economic climate, you heard of a “one horse town”? In this case , it’s a one horse state.

    Are the people of Arizona going to be able rid themselves of this “political scourge” ?

    Well, they are trying, but it takes time and in the meantime they are exposed to this bullying everyday.

    I personally don’t have much sympathy for them really, they have the government that they deserve to have. They allowed it to happen by not engaging the process and letting bullies push them around.

    It’s an oppressed Mexican village done Gringo style.

    We had small towns in south Texas that live in the same constant oppression from local government and the few men that control everything in it. It’s nothing new. But in Arizona case, they are attempting it at a state level.

    I can’t believe Mr. Livingston is giving this Sheriff serious consideration and print. I serious the question Mr. Livingston grasp of what’s afoot in Arizona today.

    You must spend some time there to ever understand, it’s unlike the other 47 states. Much like Texas, 30 miles south out of San Antonio and you are in no mans land, It’s a matter of who is the biggest and baddest and stays that way for a 4 hour hard drive. Screw you and your rights, They don’t need no stinking badges. And if they do have one , it’s only worse.

  • rich

    I applaud Sheriff Joe and the work he has done. People slam the Sheriff saying he has an agenda. Well, he might, but doesn’t everyone? The sheriff’s agenda is to seek truth and in the case of Obama, the truth is that Obama is a fraud.

    What is surprising to me is that this finding is not being reported by anyone, including FOX News. Why won’t Fox report this? I know they are being forced to turn left, but to ignore this story is just plain wrong and shows they may have turned left more than we know.

    It is a sad moment in our history when nothing matters anymore. People just do not care anylonger. All they want is for the gov to pay for their contraceptives. If they have that and can have unlimited sex, then the world is good.

    Sad, sad, sad

    • Smilee

      This story is totally not newsworthy so why would anyone report it. Even the GOP candidates say little about it as they know the vast majority of Americans see this as the joke it is and could care less.

      • Vicki

        The story is totally newsworthy. I has a fiery list of liberals name calling rather than providing any evidence. Such sensationalism is popular with the media.
        It is even better as a political suspense novel. Apparently it is a work of NON-fiction despite what the liberals would have us believe. If however against the evidence, obamas LFBC is real, it clearly shows his in-eligibility.

        Of course if it is forged (it looks forged) that raises the question of who obama’s father really is :) maybe obama really is an NBC. The LFBC says he is not.

      • samurai

        Care to cite a source that shows how many Americans think this is a joke? No? I didn’t think so. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Sammie there are reliable sources all around you but you choose to ignore them, don’t be so closed minded and lazy, “seek and you shall find” The truth is never conservative or liberal it is simply the truth but when the truth you do not like or want to believe slaps you across the face you call it liberal which is nothing more than a conservative code word for “I am out of thoughts and words” Vickie you are in a real small minority on this issue and the polls all indicate that most people do not believe it or much care and that is why it is not newsworthy and thus you only find it in propaganda and trash publications and on sites like this.

  • Ron

    I would say that this is a new low but what the heck most here daily go even lower. This is the problem with those who get their news from internet blogs. When you are faced with the real truth you brush it off as main stream media propaganda and further go into a black hole with other conspiracy theorist who think that Abraham Lincoln shot John Wilkes Booth, John Kennedy shot Robert Kennedy, and MLK was a registered republican. Even Russ (the pill hustler) Limbaugh, who is the leader of the party, knows this is not a real story. So keep up the good work guys. Looks like the parents of the president knew what they were doing when they hatched this plan to put a black man in the white house.

    How were they to know that you whiz kids would out the plan. Curses, foiled again. But not to worry, as I sit down to write this response to the brilliant detective work of one mentally challenged law enforcement officer. The plan is to run an American Indian for president while at the same time hiding his or her great grandparent’s role in Custer’s land stand. Birthers, what a bunch of idiots. Yes Bob, you writing that the President should not be president is like saying; well it does not say anything.

  • Deerinwater

    That’s pretty good, “The posse” says!

    How about some proper nouns beyond Joe’s posse, what you say.

    Let us see some John Handcock’s on this wealth of damaging information.

    Joe’s posse won’t cut it.

    I think Joe’s posse need to get back to work solving cold case crimes in Arizona until they solved them all. That’s what the tax payers of Arizona would want and expect and as a matter of fact what they pay them for.

  • Deerinwater

    People that don’t know their boundaries and who they are working for, need to be bridled in.

    A loose cannon on a pitching deck has no favorites, any leg will do.

    • Ron

      LOL, he should be out looking for missing persons. instead he is wasting tax payer money fueling internet foolery. What a joke.

      • http://naver samurai

        You, smilee, and other left wing wackos are saying the word joke too much. If you all think that someone is a joke, then post sources to prove them wrong or just shut up. Enough said! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        If you did not post so much on here maybe the term joke would not pop into our minds so often as you are the biggest joke on here.

      • samurai

        Another personal attack from smilee. You continue to use the classic liberal strategy of the personal attack. I guess you don’t have the mental capacity for real debate. This is all I’ll say so as not to rise to the occasion and get banned. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Sammie When you run out of intelligent words you sink to this level every time which so sharply illustrates your total lack of good character. I feel sorry for you!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    I remind readers of the theft of documents from the National Archives by Clinton Adviser Sandy Berger who removed documents that cast himself and Clinton in a very bad light. This was investigated by the FBI and Berger was punished, although he voluntarily returned the records he had purloined. Removing historical U.S. government documents from public custody at the National Archives hurts all of us and is an illegal theft, prosecutable by law. The following laws prohibit theft or removal of government documents: Go to: http://www.archives.gov/research/recover/importance.htmlo The law is clear. Records are carefully maintained by the Archives of all people who had access at any time to these records. It should not be difficult to uncover the person who removed them. Bet they have a direct tie to Bill Ayers and his Bolshevik crony’s.

    • Ron

      your point????

      • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

        Ron– Pay attention to the discussion. Files are missing from the National Archives relating to dates surrounding Hussein’s birth.

        • Ronald R. Johnson

          John, I could sleep for a week at a time and know more and understand it than you would if you tried your best and spent 70 hours a week listening and studying the subject at hand and at the end of the month you would probably be pushed to know your name, and or what day of the week it was. So not much need to waste everyone’s very important time John! Everyone knows you are in way over your head!

          • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

            They also know, Ron, you are off your meds. Maybe they have your straight jacket on too tight?

  • jopa

    Sheriff Joe A was one of my heroes at one time with his methods, however when he became popular and in the spotlight too often he became a little more whacked out.He is more like Limbaugh, Oreilly, Palin and the other headline grabbers when they see people are starting to ignore them they become a little bizarre with their comments whether they make sense or not.The birther, flat earth, grassy knoll, 911, Jimmy Hoffa and the list goes on conspiracies are fine for the folks that watch the Twilight Zone , Jessie Ventura and Fox news.However there should be a time in a persons life when they should come out and see reality.I thought that was funny when Jeffh popped up and gave Bob a little kiss of support so he wouldn’t’ get booted off of this site again.000XXX

    • Libertytrain

      jopa your posts are starting to come across like you’re some bitter little old man. Life must have become quite sad for you for some reason.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        :) … after all this time jopa can’t even post a reply in the right spot… scatter brained maybe?

    • Ronald R. Johnson

      On your best day you were probably as unimportant to Sheriff Joe as a speck in his eye and as people began to notice him and no one even knew you were breathing any more and it just got your Goat so bad you began to dislike him and now you are so beside your self you can’t get through the day without trying to drag him down to your level! Trust me you wont ever get the job done!

  • Ronald R. Johnson

    Sweet Jesus,I know you say we need all kinds, but are U sure about Absolutely Amazed because he sure went around the bend about Sheriff Joe! This man along with eddie47d have to have escaped from an institution for the Insane! These guys should be required to have hands on keepers who never let either one out of sight or play with sharp things!
    It is also long pass time to even have to wonder if Obama is a Citizen of the U S A or not.
    We need a law that any one running for any office first prove they are a Citizen of the
    U S A by furnishing the necessary paper work to prove it. Obama has has flown all over the world putting America down and telling people that America is not a Christian country,inviting Muslims to the White House to pray, but not Christians, he’s placed so called Czars in place to be able to pull America down and citizens are not able to vote them out and appointed a racist as Attorney General and allowed him to become a gun runner while at the same time letting him run wild trying to take guns away from honest sane people so after he gets his Muslim brothers in all the right places and gets all his illegals in the country living off of us we will be at their mercy! AINT gonna happen!
    The very best thing we can do is vote all out and I mean ever single elected person in Washington out and start over and not allow anyone who is a millionare to run for office and if they or any family and or close friends become millionares because of any elected persons help or because of any help from anyone doing business with the government they lose every thing they own an any interest in any part of what they own and spend at least Twenty- Five years in prison and any president MUST pay any debts his wife creates and all of her trips and parties and vacations and plane rides too except those that are real White House business! And lastly I wonder how long it will be before Absolutely Amazed and eddie47d get appointed Obama Czars?

    • Bellagram

      I know that some believe that President Obama *cancelled* the national Day of Prayer – but that is not true. He issued the traditional Proclamation for the prayer day each year he has been in office and here is the one for 2011 http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/29/presidential-proclamation-national-day-prayer.

      The President’s Czars – I am sure you already know this since you always check things out (you do don’t you?), but15 out of the 32 “czars” listed Glenn Beck were actually positions created by previous administrations. Furthermore, only eight of the so-called czars counted in the Obama administration were new positions directly appointed by the president and not subject to Senate confirmation. Besides, no one in the administration has the official title of “czar.” That is shorthand used by members of the media when describing employees of the administration who sometimes have cumbersome titles. For example, the director of White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy is sometimes referred to as just the “energy czar.”

  • Robert

    To me…without fancy words. It is basicaly simple. Before aspirations to be President, he claimed to be born in Kenya. Before aspirations to be President, he claimed to be moslem.
    Now, like magic, that has all changed.

    • Deerinwater

      Muslim

      Hmm? and some people say Jesus Christ claimed to be “King of the Jews” but when asked, he admitted only, “That is what is being said”.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Deerinwater,

        A purposeful misquote, or a mistake on your part?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Deerinwater

          ” The Jewish religious leaders replied, “We cannot legally put anyone to death.” 32 This happened to fulfill the word Jesus spoke indicating what kind of death he was going to die. 33 So Pilate went back into the governor’s residence, summoned Jesus, and asked him, “Are you the king of the Jews?” 34 Jesus replied, “Are you saying this on your own initiative, or have others said it to you about me?”

          “2 “Are you the king of the Jews?” asked Pilate.
          “You have said so,” Jesus replied.

          “2 And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto them, Thou sayest it. 3 And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.”

          “The Jews said unto him, It is not lawful for us to put any man to death: that the word of Jesus might be fulfilled, which He spake, signifying by what manner of death He should die. Pilate therefore entered again into the palace, and called Jesus, and said unto Him, Art Thou the King of the Jews? Jesus answered, Sayest thou this of thyself, or did others tell it thee concerning Me?”

          ” Only John reports the conversation between Jesus and Pilate, in which the question about Jesus’ kingship, the reason for his death, is explored in depth (18:33-38). The historicity of this tradition is of course contested by exegetes. While Charles H. Dodd and Raymond E. Brown judge it positively, Charles K. Barrett is extremely critical: “John’s additions and alterations do not inspire confidence in his historical reliability” (The Gospel according to Saint John, p. 530). Certainly no one would claim that John set out to provide anything resembling a transcript of the trial.”

          which time?

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Deerinwater,

        So you admit a purposeful deception. Your inaccuarate paraphrase, “That is what is being said”. implies Jesus did not want to acknowledge his divinity. However, his statement as you quote from KJV “You have said so,” Jesus replied.” clearly implies Jesus was telling him yes, it was so. Other, more modern translations make it clearer:
        Mark 15:2
        Pilate questioned Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And He *answered him, “It is as you say.” (NASB)

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Deerinwater

          “Dear Deerinwater, So you admit a purposeful deception. Your inaccuarate paraphrase, “That is what is being said”. implies Jesus did not want to acknowledge his divinity. However, his statement as you quote from KJV “You have said so,” Jesus replied.” clearly implies Jesus was telling him yes, it was so. Other, more modern translations make it clearer: Mark 15:2 Pilate questioned Him, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And He *answered him, “It is as you say.” (NASB) Best wishes, Bob

          Correct! I admit to taking small liberties as others have done, while it seems clear Jesus is acknowledged having heard this same “rumor” and that is the point that I was making. It was a “rumor” and void of any truth other then it had been repeated so many times that it took on the perception of truth, much like Obama citizenship.

          “Paul said, “The kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17). That is to say, God’s kingdom in someone’s heart will produce a state of righteousness before God, and the peace and joy of God will be known by that person. If people only understood and believed this, then they would make every effort to welcome the Kingdom of God into their lives, instead of looking in all the wrong places for the happiness and fulfilment they desire. This comment applies to Christians as well as unbelievers.”

          Christ kingdom was not of this world, but of the spirit world and surly not exclusive to Jews but all mankind as I understand it.

          I truly love this accounting of events in the bible as it demonstrates and offers us an example of the power of faith and humility against overwhelming force. Pilate would have cut him loose, finding him wrongfully charged “if” he could have had his way. But it was the clergy and the mob that ruled this day. Truth and rightfulness could not prevail over lies and deceit.

          Pilate was a lesser man that day and he knew it when he washed his hands of the matter.

      • Deerinwater

        ““That is what is being said”. implies Jesus did not want to acknowledge his divinity. However, his statement as you quote from KJV “You have said so,” Jesus replied.” clearly implies Jesus was telling him yes, it was so. ”

        No Sir. I implied nothing nor did Jesus in his response. Jesus keep it real, basically saying , That’s what “they” (the people) are saying. That is not a “yes”.

        However, you are bring forward a very good point, Jesus knew full well the gravity of the situation and addressed only the questions asked of him while only to expand to say his kingdom being not of this world and laying no claims on this world.

        The “talk of the crowd” was that Jesus was “King of the Jews”, while Jesus never made such claims.

        As we can see, it’s been offered several different ways, while each interpretation is much the same. Jesus was fully aware of this ” talk” of being described as “King of the Jews” and when asked about it, spoke in riddle , not answering in direct fashion while offering appeasement and paid homage to Cesar and all that was Cesar’s.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear Deerinwater,

        Again with the misquotes and half truths?

        John 18:37
        Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “ You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.” (NASB)

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Deerinwater

          Well Sir., I enjoy your interpretative understanding knowing it’s shared by many and hope you might enjoy mine.

          While being very humble, Jesus refused to gravel and stood steadfast already knowing the final outcome.

          “Pilate picked on the charge that Jesus claimed he was a king as the most serious, and asked him how he wished to plead. He had no choice but to try such a charge. As the Prefect, he stood in the place of the emperor and had to uphold his dignity. If the verdict was guilty there was no way out of declaring crucifixion as punishment. Pilate put the charges to Jesus who refuses to answer, according to the synoptic gospels, just as an Essene would. The Greek of Pilate’s opening question implies emphasis on the you suggesting disbelief or contempt.

          Jesus replies: “Thou sayest”, an ambiguous reply. It might be agreement, meaning “As you say”. On the other hand it could be a defiant and surly, “So you say”, or even “That’s what you say” but Pilate takes it to mean “No”. ( Jesus was not being defiant or surly but humble and why Pilate took it as a “No “)

          ( Jesus threw the question back at him, while acknowledging to Pilate that he accepted his power to having final say as to what things are or are not.)

          Fine piece of lobby work, basically saying, if you think it so, what does it matter what other’s might think? Jesus was addressing only Pilate and not us.

          One of the highest drama moments in recorded history. I wish we could have both been there.

          Seems we all take some liberties with Jesus words and their meaning, even Pontius Pilate.

          Have a blessed day

      • Deerinwater

        For the record, I don’t speak , read or write Hebrew or any dialect. I think all of us are at some disadvantage when it comes to quoting scripture. A host of many scholastic efforts help us understand what transpired that day.

        But the point I make, just because you hear something repeated several times doesn’t make it so. While the court of “Public Opinion” is most powerful and cannot be ignored or discounted in effecting a final outcome.

  • Greg

    Everybody knows Obama is a fake. If they don’t well a rude awaking is coming their way. People that like him, like the spending he does and people that do not like him hate the bills he is running up they are going to have to pay. And of course if you work for the government you gotta love him because the republican plan on firing a bunch of you and killing most of the need less waist of money being spent of give-a-ways programs to the government employee that the private sector doe not get. It is going to happen it just a matter of time that the spending is going to catch up with the Obama and he will be exposed for what he is. The free ride is over dude…

    • Smilee

      I always chuckle when some idiot claims to speak for everyone, a claim God could make but not you sir.

  • Ed Smith

    Lets stop all this bull sh– and some one start the impeachment proceeding. I am sure ya’ll can find reasons???.

    • Deerinwater

      We are too busy Ed, you do it!

  • Thinking About

    First of all, why would Joe Apraio have a birther posse going when he has a backlog of some 400 sexual crimes in his area not investigated or minimally investigated. It would seem to be important to protect those he is responsible for. Another simple thought, a copy of Obama’s birth certificate was released on what might it be printed or reproduced on, a printer using pixels so don’t get yourself up in the air about the pixels. His mother was an American citizen, he was born in Hawaii and all who does not, will not or any other method of believing he is not a citizen is wasting time which could be better placed on educating and grooming the next person to perform all the wonderful things you think a candidate of your choice might be able to do. Pick up a good book and read it, get yourself some useful pastime you have worked overtime on this useless idea. Help a helpless person and feel a reward for doing so.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

      I’m please to learn that you are taking your Obama meds regularly and have not skipped your daily dosage. When you wake up do not stumble over the barbed wire or walk out beyond the fence. You might be mistaken for a “Birther.”

      • Thinking About

        John maybe one day you will realize the truth shall set you free but until then may you find the good life. BTW, I will never be in the birther group, never.

      • Ronald R. Johnson

        Poor old John, his meds taken three times a day wouldn’t be able to help him but we can hope soon after Obama has been voted out old John will Gulp down the KOOL ADE as Obama instructs him and as Obama does too! Then problem solved!

        • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

          Did anyone ever inform you that you are a genuine wacko? Maybe you and Mitt share the same magic underwear?

    • http://naver samurai

      First, those other cases do not matter on this thread, as they are not the subject. Second, how many times have you been told that since his mother was a minor (under 21), she could not pass citizenship to her son Obama bin Laden. Third, he is not a natural born citizen. He needs both parents to be American citizens to meet the requirement set forth in the Constitution. Reread Minor vs. Happersett 1875. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        Sure they do they are the current order of the court and unless and until a higher court overturns them they will be the final say all your silly arguments currently are all moot and you have to power to change that despite all your wishful thinking to the contrary

      • samurai

        Though I do not posses the authority or ability to overturn court cases, but I do have the ability to correct you as to what has transpired till now. This seems to be all the time with you. Let’s see what the Indiana Supreme Court says. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        No you do not have that ability, you simply not that intelligent and you assume to much. The IND Supreme Court is not going to hear it so it will say nothing, it will not be ruling on it.Leaving the appeal court ruling in tack, Intelligent people know that! You cannot comprehend it

      • DaveH
  • Jibbs

    All of US have been, scamed!!

  • Thinking About

    http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/services/natz/100q.pdf
    Is a link to U S Code, Title 8, Section 1401. Only one parent needs to be a citizen for their child to be a citizen. Being born in US or one of our territories also makes one a natural born citizen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

      If that is the case, why release a clumsy birth certificate forgery? Why release a clumsy selective service registration forgery? Why not use your own social security number?

      • Thinking About

        Perhaps the correct question is why release a clumsy report for if you read the article it was not state in fact the birth certificate was fake. It is unfortunate the reports are not always factual.

    • http://naver samurai

      That is just to be an American citizen, but you need to have both parents be American citizens to be natural born citizens. Look at Minor vs. Happersett 1875. Sheesh! Don’t you lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists ever get tired of lying? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        WRONG!! the joke chirps again

      • samurai

        As usuall, you are wrong smilee. Minor vs. Happersett clearly states parents. Notice the “s” on the end of parents. So my facts and sources stand, while you, the real joke, falls in defeat again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Smilee

        If you understood legal documents you would know that parents in the plural means one parent or the other or both, if it requires both they must include the word both. The plural in legal terms almost always means it can be either. In the context you are describing it means either or both parents but does require it having to include both. This site is filled with armature attorneys who do not understand either the Constitution or the laws. You are a prime example of that

        • RichE

          Smilee: What is a clear definition, etc. of the constitutional requirement(s)?
          {snip} “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,” Notice the ‘OR’ between ‘natural born’ and ‘a Citizen’. Personally, I’m wondering if the ‘natural born’ clause is referring to slavery. It doesn’t say ‘natural born Citizen of the United States’ Why is the clause there? Wouldn’t a ‘natural born Citizen’ be a subset of Citizen? Why the distinction? Regardless, I believe Obama would qualify under the second part, ‘…or a Citizen of the United States’.

      • Smilee

        RichE says:
        March 5, 2012 at 10:08 am

        Your questions have nothing to do with the 1875 ruling sammie cites. Your asking a lot of questions interesting perhaps but also currently irrelevant as the latest two courts to rule on it have ruled that being born in the US satisfies the requirement of being a natural born citizen and thus has ordered Obama;s name to be on the ballot in Indiana and Missouri unless and until a higher court says otherwise this is now the current definition of natural born citizen weather you like it or not…

  • Lamont

    It is about time!!!!!!!!!

  • jopa

    I think if our local Sheriff went on a wild goose chase like this with local tax dollars, he would be put in the loony bin.He is responsible for what goes on in our county and not go out and work with Orly Taitz, sail a boat out to sea to see if the world is flat , try and get some moon rocks to see if they are made of cheese or even spy on area 51.He is not only appearing to be out of his mind but also out of his jurisdiction.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

      Your rants seriously indicate you have lost your facility for rational thought. Please take your meds and take a nap.

    • http://naver samurai

      Since Obama bin Laden is just a pretender, it is not wasting tax dollars. Aren’t we wasting tax dollars on you with your monthly welfare check? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://www.facebook.com/chuck.tilley2 Chuck Tilley

    obama is a fraud

  • http://www.facebook.com/chuck.tilley2 Chuck Tilley

    There should be a biapartisim panel that makes sure if you are running for President that all your paper work is checked out before hand.They must be able to pass a F.B.I. back ground check.Just like when you are getting a top secert clearance. Because the President will have access to the most Top Secert Materials.

  • WIA Ben

    To Bob Livingston, How about doing an article on Alan Keyes regarding Obama and his citizenship. It would do a lot of good and maybe wake up a few fools.

  • jopa

    John Accord;What facility are you locked up in and are you wearing pink bloomers?

    • http://naver samurai

      Why? Is that your favorite color, Jopa? I knew you seemed a little fruity. Thinking about, go peddle your papers somewhere else, because we sure aren’t buying what you are trying to sell. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Thinking About

    John what is your problem?

  • leslunda

    I believe there is some truth to these accusations. At the time it came out, I just happened to be using a computer at work to fill out some required tax forms. When your using a type writer the first thing you do is set the margins, to make it a lot easier; and you want to set up as few as possible. What I noticed about this document is that the information does not line up in certain areas where you would use the margin button. This document looks generated by a computer, not an old fashioned typewriter.

  • jopa

    samurai;Be nice so we won’t have to deport you.

  • http://gravatar.com/daledubois Dale DuBois

    Obama as our President is protected by a massive coverup by those who should of investigated him and never. Then also the ones who will have a financial gain with him as long as he is President. The people who can remove him would die of natural causes if they tried.

    What we have for a President is a crazy man, a narcissist, crazy like Hitler was. He loves to be praised and thinks himself as wonderful. He won’t and can’t stand defeat. He will do anything to not be defeated including cheating, lying and more than likely murder. He thinks he can do anything he wants to do and so far our government has allowed him to do it. No judges will even cross him cause they know what can happen. He is just like all of the dictators of the world when they started, and they ended up being killed, imprisioned or committed or they took their own life. So look at the dictators that we now have left in the world, is Obama any differant from them and the answer is no. Wake up America before its too late.

    • astella1

      I agree,i also have thought that he is trying to be “The Anti-Christ,dont laugh,it seems that No one can get him out,if they try they end up DEAD

  • Charles Barfield

    As a retired Sheriffs Investigator, and now a licensed Private Investigator, I have watched the presentation, and looked at the exhibits with open-mindness,and I find the evidence to be satisfactory to myself, that the the birth certificate is indeed a fraud. This news is several days old now, so where is the rebuttal from any “experts?” I know that the President has unlimited resources to rebuke it, so why doesn’t he? Where are all of the pundits who were joking and making fun of the “Birthers?” Why are some of the Democrats trying to pass a bill which would exempt a candidate from the Natural Born Citizen Requirement, before the next election? Before anyone attacks the messenger, they need to be able to answer theses questions.

    • Deerinwater

      ” Why are some of the Democrats trying to pass a bill which would exempt a candidate from the Natural Born Citizen Requirement,”

      because, some will never be satisfied, regardless of the information and documents offered???

      What would you say to me if I told you that your birth certificate was forgery? What would you do?, Ignore me?

      I worked for the SO a few years myself, but I can’t say with certainty where this document came from and neither can you. I would speculate that it’s a copy of a copy of a forgery and not what has been offered as the real birth certificate but created to muddy the water for people that want to believe Obama fails to qualify.

      The truth is it’s doesn’t matter but only to a few at this point. It’s obsessive, it’s insane and down right silly. You can’t touch him, like I couldn’t touch “W” regardless of what the truth was or what he did.

      I would have liked to see Dick Chaney and “W” subjected to their “right” for lying to the American people and war profiteering. But I had to let it go, pressing matter of state too demanding to back up for justice while tearing the nation apart in the process. It just wasn’t worth it. My loathing and desire for justice quite simply took back stage to greater concerns and matters of greater importance. “W” 2nd term win was seriously suspect and his 1st term questionable.

      “O” is your duly elected President after serving tenure as a US Senator. His mother was an American citizen. And it’s looking like he will enjoy a 2nd term as the GOP can’t get their act together and they treat their only worthy contender like a red headed stepchild.

      The GOP is not going to offer to the American people a sound choice.

  • http://none george

    REMMBER WHAT KRUSCHEF TOLD KENNEDY. WE DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO WAR. YOU WILL BE RUNIED FROM WITHIN. NAMELY THE OBAMAS CLINTONS BIDENS POLOSIES REEDS FRANKS AND DODDS AND ALL THE REST OF THE ASS KISSING MOSLUMS IN AMERICA.SHAME ON YOU FOR CALLING YOURSELF A AMERICA,

    • Smilee

      He was referring to all us Americans and none whom you mention gained any power without the voters stamp of approval, without that they could accomplish nothing but I understand those who do not see their own responsibility in that and only know how to point fingers at those whom they disagree with and whom they often hate

  • OhYeah?

    Here’s a comment on the layers in the PDF of the long form birth certificate from the National Review — which is not known to have any particular fondness for the incumbent of the White House:

    …. “What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

    “UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

    So, Arpaio’s contention that Adobe Illustrator’s finding layers in the PDF proves that the PDF was concocted in Illustrator or some other digital editor — is false. The layers would be there if the PDF was optimized, regardless of the source of the PDF. As the National Review says, you can try it at home.

    • Deerinwater

      What does an 80 year old sheriff and some retired peace officers know about such matters? Very little is my guess!

      At 64, I run a business and a office, I have to hire people to set all my office electronics up and I spend months learning how to use them to serve my needs and demands. And still, I know only a fraction of what can be done and how to do it. I hate it, but i have little choice if i plan to keep up with today’s demands and make a comfortable living.

      You bring in the right people for the right job at hand and move on with your primary task. In the case of this super sleuth sheriff, it should be enforcement of laws and preserving the peace of his justification.

      I can understand a Sheriff defending a local dairy farmer from the over reach of the federal government. County & Federal matters can conflict at times, but this is an over reach of County business that only a dimwit seeing little to lose at 80 years old would attempt to take on.

      Just more “all or nothing” mentality that seems overly prevalent in this Tea party mindset. If they were race car drivers, they wouldn’t make 5 laps before they mayonnaise the wall.

      It’s good to have a little fire in your belly, but throwing out mindful thinking and expecting everyone else too do likewise is an act of pure desperation.

      Where you go, you go alone.

  • Beacon007

    Your President, Congressmen and Senators, have made a mockrey out of the average American citizen. You have heard the expression, how do you tell when a politician is lying? When he opens his mouth.

    Only one Congressman with proven experience of 30 years can help you to LIBERTY.

    Use your inteligence. R.P.

    P.S. Forget the forgery, its trivial.

    • Deerinwater

      correct ! it’s not. Now tell us where did this document come from?

      You are left to prove it a fraud and who crafted it.

      Until you can do that, you got nothing.

  • Highsider

    I fervently hope someday to see Sheriff Joe leading ex president Taqiyya Hussien Obuslim out of our White House in cuffs.

  • Highsider

    In what alternate universe is forgery to fraudulently and unconstitutionally gain the presidency of the United States of America “trivial”???

  • Liberterian

    Let’s grow up and move beyond. Arpaio needs to stick to what he does best and try to keep illegal aliens out of our country. Preserve our border forget about conspiracy theories and tackle the real problems America faces from without and within.

  • Charley

    Here we have a forum discussing a serious issue; namely, a guy who has managed to become POTUS, while all the time, no one really knows who he is, where he was born, where he did (or did not) go to college, who has already done more to damage the U.S. than the world’s communists did during the cold war, and all the while, we have a few trols yipping and yapping because they seem genuinely concerned that Sheriff Joe may find out the truth, and be able to prove it. Jopa, Smilee, Deerinwater……….take a HIKE ! No one needs you ! No one believes you ! No one is influenced by you; you three remind me of what I sometimes find on my shoes when I take the dog out at night and I can’t see where I’m stepping ! You’re not even worth arguing with. And don’t even bother answering, as I’m going to bed now. (And goodnight to all of you “normal” people !)

    Charley

    • Deerinwater

      Hmm? Normal people are suspicious when a Tin horn Sheriff in a Back Water Town used words like “MAYBE” to describe his evidence as he parades it about. These suggest to “normal people” there is no interest in finding any “truth” but only an attempt to try and convict in the ‘court of public opinion’, circumventing any notions of a judicial system and due process.

      I could just as easily make the charge that the GOP is 2 for 3 in stealing General Elections and unwilling to accept their most recent failure. I could support my claims with not only solid and factual information but “maybe’s” for the next 3 years. Maybe if a pig had wings it might fly.

      Birthers are not “normal” people until they come together, it’s only then that any sense of normal might apply. I’m sure convicts in the our prison systems think of themselves as “normal” as well as their numbers alone suggest it so. They prefer to think of themselves as victims.

      This is little more then a lynch mob that harbor notions of “righteousness ” and a vendetta as they make unsupported and unsubstantiated claims of serious injury and great harm to justify their fever, inappropriate thoughts and behavior.

      This generational mindset is slowly dying out, this old sheriff is 80 years old, most birther’s are over the age of 55. I had an Uncle Jeff Davis that served at Sheriff for Brazoria, Texas for a few years, he died at 99 some 18 years ago. I remember him telling me one day that a black man didn’t have a soul. He was a colorful and entertaining man up until the day that he died. He could spin a yarn with amazing detail from the great wealth of life experiences. Slept on the screen-in porch in a big feather bed and took a snort of 101 proof JW Dant each night before bedtime. Didn’t marry until he was 42, outlived his bride and one of two children. He was a good man, he was a product of his time, but he was wrong about some things. It’s important that somethings just die out.

      • Thinking About

        Charley might really be surprised to know there are still people who was alive and knows Obama was born in Hawaii. I wonder if Joe and his posse even attempted to locate any of those folks to learn where Obama’s mother was when she gave birth to Obama. Oh, this is the simple part to go and check on these items but just as Joe and his posse has a backlog of some 400 sex crimes still sitting on the books in his area then I dont put a lot of confidence in Joe and his posse. Always remember he claimed it may be and did not declare it to be true.

      • Deerinwater

        That’s truth, “Think About it” ,

        In a way, this issue has been Obama’s “Ace in the Hole” ,

        Other then a 60 minute documentary by a popular and widely accepted unbiased source, offering up oral testimony and supporting documentation, the “birth-er issue” could got on indefinably.

        It wears the opposition down, mired in a tangled ball of facts and fiction of their own making as they think it’s getting traction as it’s played over and over again. Their desire to believe needs no encouragement and undaunted by failure, they drudge on with it, polarizing and aliening themselves from the rest of society in the process.

        Obama, alone can’t stop this and I don’t believe that it’s in him best interest to try anymore.

        It will be a part of American history along with the sinking of the Maine and the Grassy Knoll, forever looked on with doubt and suspicion by some.

    • http://crybabies crybabies

      you guys are a barrel of laughs. the g.o.p is sinking you , and it self. is it not agaist the the constitution of the us (Antiamerican ) for passing propagandawith in the usa?? so why is it that fox only does that?? freedom of speech is one thing telling lies is agaist the law. we need to remove fox off the air and stop giving my tax dollars to the right wing nut jobs churches what you think and stop giving welfare to all red states. LOL

      • Bellagram

        Save your breath. Those who buy into this huge conspiracy theory do not care about the truth. I do not understand their vitriol against the president. There is plenty of evidence that he attended college from classmates, but they prefer to say there is no record of his existence They dismiss any real evidence that contradicts their views as being *forged*. It must be really uncomfortable to be so fearful all the time. They pay no attention to the timeline of the DoJ’s investigation of Sheriff Joe A, and do not realize (or don’t care) that the DoJ investigation came before Joe’s accusations about the President. Maybe they are angry at them selves for not taking the President seriously when he was running in 2008 and could not believe he was elected in the first time. I think that their time could be better spent working on the campaign of whomever they support this time around. They complain about all the money that the Government is spending, and yet they think the Government should spend millions more to investigate something that most people know is not true. Go figure.

        • Deerinwater

          Hmm? ~ They (conservatives ) spent a ton of money investigating Clinton’s and got zip!

          I’m still waiting for at least a apology. Then they gave us lies about “WMD’s” , two unfunded wars, I’m waiting for an apology for that as well.

          But like “RUSH” , they will blame us for their behavior. Like Rush tells us, They are been possessed and no longer responsible!

          But they what back control of government none the less! Insisting they ideas and way much superior. ~ I wonder where they were hiding all this “superior” went they were in power? I sure didn’t see it!

          And even today, they don’t want to talk about “TRACK RECORDS” but they will speak of God, preachers,give -a ways, sin, small, lies, stealing and of course ~ their Favorite things, LIBERALS and OBAMA.

          But they won’t talk about what they have done.

          • Bellagram

            Yes, but a lot of those here do not claim the title of Republican, but rather libertarian. Some seem honest in admitting that the previous administration did not *protect the constitution* either, and also seem honest in their quest for very limited government. But there are more here who just claim conservatism (apparently a big R) – and their limited government only seems to pertain to programs that work for the elderly and poor. They have no problem with big government when it comes to wars, gay rights, women’s reproductive health, and capital punishment. I respect (but do not agree with) the libertarians, but not so much the conservatives, but I do not wish them harm. I did not agree with President’s Bush’s policies, but I would never wish him harm. I have read more than once, on this forum, references to our current President’s death, and that is scary. They should really watch their rhetoric here – they say their opposition has nothing to do with his race, and I believe them cause it is not my job to label anyone, but then talk about lynching (which has always been associated with blacks in the south), and talk about the Obama family as being monkeys, and then wonder why anyone would think race had anything to do with their views.

          • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

            and you would have also read the countless posts by the left that Bush and Cheney should be done in as well.

          • Bellagram

            Actually, no I haven’t, but if that is true it is scary as well. I am relatively new here, and I do not read every blog post that brings me to the message boards. If it is true, I apologize for those on the left who would be so dumb as to say that, and two wrongs have never made a right.

        • AZ Don

          I’m sure you would feel the very same way if it were Bush being questioned. Or if his legitimacy to hold office were in doubt and I commend you for that attitude. I wonder if you’re the same people who were accusing Bush of desiring to be, or thinking he was, a King while he was president?

          • Bellagram

            I am not a big fan of Bush’s policies, and I do not know him personally, but I can honestly say that I always focused my differences on his policies and not him personally. If there had been any question about President Bush’s qualifications to be president that were raised by those in the democratic party, I would have taken it for what I probably would have thought it was, sour grapes. We have some cuckoos in the Democratic party that say some pretty strange things. I look those things up myself before buying in to their rhetoric, and usually dismissed them as false (can remember doing that, but cannot remember specifics – comes with old age I guess).

          • rph1945

            Please name a couple of Obama’s class mates I haven’t heard of anyone that knew him.And why did he hide his records seems like he is hiding something .If he attended harvard,you think that it might be a poor record.

          • Bellagram

            My goodness sakes – where were you when that old video of Obama speaking at a Harvard protest rally in support of Professor Derrick Bell in 1991 when he was president of the Harvard Law Review. The video had the right wing all up in arms cause Professor Derrick Bell was promoting racial diversity and was going to take a leave of absence until a black woman was given tenure at the law school. You can find that article here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/want-to-see-new-video-of-barack-obama-from-his-harvard-days/. There is also an article from the Harvard Law School Webpage that talks about him as the president of the Law Review. http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/obama-at-hls.html. That article also quotes two classmates and friends, Kenneth Mack ’91 who is now a Professor, and Cassandra Butts ’91. I do not know why he did/does not release his college records, probably because there is no need to and it is really none of anyone’s business what his grades were. I am guessing they were really good or he would not have been president of the Law Review at Harvard. How many presidents of the US have released their college transcripts? I found the information above in about 10 minutes, so am pretty sure you can find information about Occidental and Columbia if you look. Oh heck, I will look. What do you know, it appears that Mr Root’s assessment of the President’s not attending Columbia because he could find no student or faculty that remembered him, were faulty. Apparently the President kept to himself a lot at Columbia according to a friend and room mate, . Sohale Siddiqi, who gave an interview to USA Today in 2008 which can be read here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-05-15-3144401415_x.htm. There is Phil Boerner, who shared an apartment with Obama in NYC. Then there is Michael L Baron who taught the year long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Mr. Baron said that Obama easily aced and that Obama earned an A on his senior paper on nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union. Maybe the reason Obama did not release his records is because he did not want it to seem as though he was lording his intelligence over others. So you asked for the name of a couple of the President’s classmates and I have given you more that a couple. See this is why it is so difficult for myself and others to give any credence to the rumors that Obama is a fraud, he did not go to Columbia, etc., etc. when it is so easy to google something and disprove the rumors.

          • Deerinwater

            Good posting Bellagram!

            They will find something else that fails to make sense to them.

      • Libertytrain

        I’ve been on here a few years now and yes, it’s true.

        • Deerinwater

          I wish the telling of “lies” was against the law.

          There is times that it is perhaps, like went you are under oath or in the commission of a crime like fraud, otherwise it’s open season on the truth.

  • kat wolf

    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PASS PORT INVESTIGATION THAT WAS WAITING TO BE HEARD IN THE 11TH DISTRICT COURT. OBAMA WENT TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY (PACISTAN) WHEN AMERICANS WERE NOT PERMITTED TO TRAVEL THEIR. SO HOW DID HE GET INTO THE COUNTRY WITH AN AMERICAN PASS PORT? IS THE 11TH DISTRICT COURT HEARING THIS CASE?

    • Bellagram

      Obama did indeed travel to Pakistan in 1981: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/more-birther-nonsense-obamas-1981-pakistan-trip/

      But there was not a ban when he traveled there using a US Passport. ” Americans did travel there (Pakistan) without incident as shown by a travel piece that appeared in the New York Times, Dated June 14, 1981″: http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/travel/lahore-a-survivor-with-a-bittersweet-history.html?scp=1&sq=lahore%20travel%201981&st=cse.

    • http://crybabies crybabies

      Why are you wasting time this?? while the g.o.p in pulling the wool over your head and blaming other the g.o.p are passing laws to restrict your rights and taking others away. leave it to the g.o.p. you mother will be wearing burka. you can lead a horse to water hole But you can’t making drink the rule applies to you, the truth is out there is up to you what you do with it . if you continue to send Antiamericans to office well you’l deserve what you get. NRA IS DEAD!!!!!!!!

      • astella1

        This should tell the American People something,OMG,we could not go there,why was he allowed to..can’t you think any more??

  • http://crybabies crybabies

    What you all need is self respect and BALLS. G.O.P. does not respect any of you and does not care of your well being they know they need to scare the (offensive word removed of you and keep you scare for your vote. they know ALL of you are stupid low level thinkers low IQ Scare of your own shadow. It’s that time againg when the g.o.p. needs to scare you, tell you that the Liberals are going to take your guns away, take your liberty away, rape your women. be scare be very scare of those liberals they’re going to take your rights away. Did you know right to work states, workers earn $5.500 less then state that don’t have right to work law and you live about 15 years less. who is pushig this laws?? the g.o.p. why? because they are being paid under the table by corporation to keep salaries low. thanks to the g.o.p. corporation privatized profits and socialize losses. But you low IQ people don’t care about that Remember patriotism means no question be the good little brown shirt do as you are told, this was a message from the ministry of homeland secuity. As longest you continue voting those Antiamerican you will continue to have this problems. High fuel price are because of wallstreet, and speculator the g.o.p. don’t help by threating Iran with war. g.o.p. do not represent you But the corp they are water boys. oil companies are sending, selling (exporting ) billions of gallons of fuel on the open market and only releasing enough to keep high fuel prices and blaming Obama But go right ahead blame Obama if it helps you. we know the Antiamericams are the one’s who are lying to you. g.o.p. are lying fools the say one thing and do another they HATE AMERICA AND WHAT IT STAND FOR accept the united state part. so go right ahead cover your eyes , cover your mouth, cover your ears be the monkey that you are ,wrap you patriot in the made in china flag thanks for the g.o.p’s sending jobs out of the USA and blaming Obama for it. (Offensive words removed).

    • Bellagram

      crybabies – we may be on the same side of this issue, but there is a way to talk to people and calling someone stupid and low IQ is not it (IMO). There is definitely a deep divide between two very different outlooks on how our country should be. Both sides have strong opinions and really do not understand how anyone could possibly not see their side. I certainly have no answers on how to reconcile this, but am pretty sure calling each others names and disparaging someone’s IQ is not the way to fix anything – and only makes it worse.

    • AZ Don

      You, crybabies, make a lot of accusations that I doubt you can prove. But I would like to see you try. In an earlier post you (also made a statement you need to prove) said the G. O. P. are passing laws and taking (I suspect you meant stealing) our rights. That is one you definitely need to explain. I know obama is, but you need to tell me how the Republicans are when they only control one half of one third of this government.

      Furthermore, you claim these G. O. P folks you keep referring to are low I. Q., and yet you show no intelligence in you post at all. Tell me do you ever proof read it before you post it? Normally I really don’t care but I will make an exception in your case since you like to be critical of others.

      • Bellagram

        You are right in that the Republican’s only control one half of one third of our Government, but with the number of times that the filibuster and Senate hold have been used in the past several years, I think that it is obvious that it does not really matter who controls what in congress. I think though that crybabies is probably referring to State legislatures when he/she is talking about Republicans trying to take away rights, since those are the things that have been in the news lately.

  • tigerwino

    Its time for all of you to look at Obama and see what he is. and after you see what he is,
    think realy hard Is this the one to run the good old U.S.A.
    And to all the youung ones out there, thing he is so great, when you are older you will work for him some were. pl for all of you think
    im 72 year old and i sever in the army to keep his tpy out and you put him in offi
    O.K. I ask you all give back THE U.S.of A.to us all
    All he can do is talk and not els Dam him and for what he stand for lie lie
    i guess, O and the ACLU go back to URRS good pl for all of you.

  • http://YAHOO CHAR51

    for all you a–ss kisser of odumas , let me say this. when the truth is smaking you in the face, why cant you belive it. whats it going to take to wake you people up. obama , is a races when it suits him, a clawn, all the time. speeks out of both sides of his mouth. magician( slite of hand) when he thinks no, one is around.lies like the devial.steals from the people.in other words a dictator.now all you librals chew on that. in another word the great devil who will bring down this county.

    • Bellagram

      And you, of course, are wrong – totally wrong. Let me ask you this, where do you get your information from? If these things are true, you should be able to provide a non-partisan source to back up your claims. I have provided sources to disprove several other accusations, such as he did not attend college at Columbia cause no one came forward to say they knew him – that was totally false and I gave several names of people who do know him. Sorry you are so angry, but Obama is President and will probably be re-elected because he is doing a great job according to over half the voting population. Guess I would tell you to get over it, or else be angry for a lot longer.

      • eddiew1

        I understand your frustration in not being able to get through to people, BUT…here’s why! They seem to be brainwashed! You cannot convince a brainwashed person, with even a mountain of evidence! The only thing that can change them is when they bust their ass on it! I have a liberal/Leftist “friend” (Nemesis)and even a copy of actualcourt papers, from his own home town would not convince him!!!
        I told him, “Check the docket number!” it won’t take long to prove whether this is true!” he would not, but refused to believe..= BRAINWASHED!!!

        • Bellagram

          I am not exactly frustrated, more like very sad that some are so easily swayed. So these actual court papers from your *friend’s* hometown showed what? That a suit was brought against Obama? What were the results? I have seen proof of several suits being brought against the President, but as far as I know, there has never been any results to help the cause of those who think he is a fraud, and most are thrown out. If you have knowledge of a court action that did result in some verifiable proof against the President, please post it here along with a link to the source. When is Sheriff Joe going to release the information that he has? Seems like it has been over a month since this article was originally published. Do you know when the *movie* is being shown?

  • Charles

    More and more is coming out every day about this illegal obama administration . Now we have the illegal US sitting ( person ) and I refuse to say president now invoking a privilege to protect his criminal buddy Mr Holder . What will it take for the lame stream media to stop protecting this fraud obama and demand that he release all his records .

    • Deerinwater

      “More and more is coming out every day about this illegal obama administration ”

      Hmm? This is old talk! March 2nd of 2012 when Livingston brought it forward, Sheriff Joe had sent a single retired deputy to Hawaii to bring home the “GOODS” ~ Here it is June the 23rd and the good Sheriff has yet to weigh back in. ~ Maybe his Deputy got “Layed” and lost his way back home? Or there simply isn’t anything to report.

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