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Civil Rights Groups Sue Arizona, Claim Immigration Law Violates First Amendment

May 21, 2010 by  

Civil rights groups sue Arizona, claim immigration law violates First Amendment As the firestorm of criticism continues to surround the recently passed Arizona immigration law—which allows police officers to demand documents from individuals who they suspect may be in the United States illegally—major civil rights organizations have filed a lawsuit challenging the legislation.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a coalition of civil rights groups filed a class action lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, charging that the law is "extreme," opens doors to racial profiling of minorities, violates the First Amendment and interferes with Federal law.

"Arizona’s law is quintessentially un-American: we are not a ‘show me your papers’ country, nor one that believes in subjecting people to harassment, investigation and arrest simply because others may perceive them as foreign," said Omar Jadwat, a staff attorney with the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project.

Jadwat expressed his confidence that the lawsuit will prevent the law from ever being implemented.

He was seconded in his opinion by Victor Viramontes, senior national counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), who stated that the law is "discriminatory" and "pushes Arizona into a spiral of fear, increased crime and costly litigation."

In addition to MALDEF, the ACLU was joined by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, ACLU of Arizona, National Day Laborer Organizing Network and the Asian Pacific American Legal Center. ADNFCR-1961-ID-19785072-ADNFCR

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  • mw

    Did the author read the law? Apparently not. How about California 834b section of the penal code which says about the same as 1070? Oh that’s not PC??

  • angel-wanna-be

    Political Correctness, Apology tours,The Mexican president disses Arizona and Jan Brewer for enforcing the illegal immigration on our soil, and our congress gives him a standing ovation in response to it!___I’m appalled and amazed at the the dangerous immaturity, and absolute lunacy, of this administration and they’re followers. If we look closely, the kool aid wagon, I’m sure isn’t far behind, the parade of fools. As Americans, We have to show a passport before going into another country or we are detained or arrested, if we are stopped for traffic violation, we are instructed to show ID and Insurance card or we are detained or arrested, yet the above states it’s unconstitutional to ask for legal immigration papers. They came here to be Americans, THEN LIVE WITHIN OUR RULES, DON’T COME HERE AND MAKE YOUR OWN AND EXPECT US TO COMPLY!!!
    Correct me if I’m wrong, anyone, but if this law in Arizona is truly Unconstitutional, why then, doesn’t the Federal Government step in and stop it? Why they don’t, I believe, is because Jan Brewer is within her right, to enforce this law as a states rights. If the Feds cannot legally stop her from enforcing this law, then by damned, they’re going to make her life miserable over it. What is also concerning, is why the Federal Government has our attention focused on this and other political subjects, what is Washington doing and destroying, who are they siding with and bowing to now ?__
    HOLD YOUR GROUND JAN BREWER, WE’RE BEHIND YOU!

    • Disgusted

      You are so right on the mark!

      • Jimmie

        Hooray for Jan Brewer, I wish Texas would do that. I am very surprised at Perry. One thing I want to know is who is Omar? I would bet (not sure) but is he a Muslim? They want to cause havoc here in the U.S. as they will eventually get their sharia law here and then enforced – then you can kiss our country good bye. I am just so sad for our country – the greatest country in the world and these people (our Muslim President) and his pathetic group wants to change it. Obama said he would change it and he’s trying – people like Gov. Brewer is fighting for us. We should stand behind her….as we are.

        • wilton brown

          i believe arizona has the right to protect it’s state and it’s border.
          if not what is next? do we plan to annex mexico?
          i think it’s great that they have the courage to stand up, for America.

        • http://www.google.com Tom Salmon

          Hi there,
          I think discrimination based on religion is hatred and not justified. Go back about 100 years, this great country has been made so because of all American descending from all ethnicity and religions. Job market is bad now a days because the big companies are going overseas, the CEO, VPs are getting all the money. Moreover, bad people exists in all religions, return back to up to less than 20 years and double check this. We all are humans and we keep doing mistakes, this however doesn’t reflect religions it is personal immoral behaviors. Extremism is always bad what ever the religion is. Think about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it costs the USA trillions of $ and more important it took the lives of thousands of innocent people. I thinks mixing politics with religion is very unhealthy.
          take care and understand the soul of religion before you just look from single eye where the other is blind because of hatred,
          Tom

    • Steven Thomas

      Why won’t they fight for our civil rights as Americans? I live in AZ and am for even stricter regulations. I want armed personnel every 30 or so yards. Fire some warning shots from a mini gun or a .50 cal and let’s see how many people want to try to cross the border. If the warning shots don’t stop them, the real shots will. This has essentially turned into a way, this is a war being fought on US soil and we are losing badly. We fight in Afghanistan and Iraq for???? Why not build bases along the border states, fill them with US armed service personnel, have them spend their money here in the US to bolster the economies of where those bases are, and, have them watch the border for us…

      Whey won’t Obama won’t stand up for America, because Obama is not an American, that’s right!!

      • KATHLEEN

        SUPPORT ARIZONA! BO & the LIBS are un-American. Protect US – the LEGAL citizens!

      • angel-wanna-be

        STEVEN THOMAS, GOD LOVE & BLESS YOU FOLKS IN ARIZONA!__I don’t know how you stand it!__We live on the East Coast and the illegals have been an issue here. I could care less if immigrints are here legally, hell we’re ALL immigrints from somewhere. But We need to be Americans first!!! No more pressing 1 for English!___Learn the damn language, do the work and GET LEGAL! Respect our laws and way of life!
        What really helps our cause, is a President who sides with everyone else, BUT US, THE AMERICAN CITIZEN!!__I’m throughly disgusted and ashamed to even admit this guys or President!

      • Jimminety Bop

        Steven has this right. A couple of dead Mexicans hanging on the fence will send a good message. Americans with many more qualifications then those coming across the border illegally cannot find jobs. I hear the argument that they do work that Americans won’t. Sad as it is, many Americans have lowered their standards and will do this work for a decent wage but the Mexicans do it for next to nothing and the ones that use them take more profit on their goods. They wouldn’t make as much if they had to pay higher wages. Jobs at all levels are scarce and these illegal’s are not coming here for the work. They are coming for the free handouts, to have their babies to act as anchors that will bring more and more that really have no interest in becoming Americans. They come to get more free stuff and hold on to their way of life and then expect those that are here legally to accomodate their customs and language.
        Before all of this “politically Correct” crap started common sense was a great part of decisions that were made. President Hoover deprited milolions of illegal’s to open jobs for Americans. President Truman deproted over 2 million illegal’s to open jobs for returning veterans. President Eisenhower even had the “insenseitivity” to call it “OPERATION WETBACK” when he ordered the deportation of 1.3 million illegals. It took two years but it was done.
        Now they tell us they can’t deport 11 to 12 million illegal’s but that they will give them amnesty and to insure that the flow stops they will reinforce the border. They made this promise back in ’86 when they gave amnesty to 8 million but they must have missed an opening that we didn’t know about but that 8 million illegal’s apparently knew very well where it was!

        • Jana

          Jimminety,
          Hmmm, I am against illegal immigration as much as anyone, but killing them UNLESS, it is in self defense is still wrong. That is what they did to our contractors in Iraq, they killed them, burned their bodies and hung them on bridges. NO NO NO. We aren’t like the terrorists.

          • Jana

            PS, the rest of your post is good.

    • Janis

      Very well said!!!!

    • Anthony

      Please – let’s don’t include “immaturity” as a part of the discussion. Because that’s certainly not what’s going on here. All one has to do is compare Mexico’s Illegal Alien Laws and you can immmediately see what the real agenda is.

      Here’s the kicker: In 2005 Bush signed the North American Pact Agreemtn “without” the authorization from Congress. THIS has a lot to do with Obama and the Mexican President behaving as they are towards each other.

      If you read the dirt behind the CFR, the Trilateral and the Bilderberg Group(s)… and even the so-called Conspiracy Nutjob websites, and combine it with what you read about the Rothschild Family History – then this starts to make real sense. You cannot have a World Order (it’s certainly not new) without an ability to combine Nations into Conglomerates – in a Corp-istacracy based Society. You can only stifle competition (which is what John D. Rockefeller got all the other Corporations to do in 1910 – for the obvious greed factor involved) without all Businesses formed into a Conglomerate — comebine all of the information you can find on all of these factors I’ve listed and this is just one part of the puzzle that they have in mind. The Mexican President “thinks” he has a real pplace at the dinner table with this Anglo-American NWO. But, I bet that once he has served his purpose, something will happen to him… just like it did the President of Poland, recently…. or how about Ron Brown under Clinton – anyone wanna gander what he knew and was about to do?

    • Princess

      I agree. All border states should implement Arizona’s new law.

    • fastman

      I believe it’s time to take our country back by force if necessary! Time to revolt and take back what’s ours by birth!

      • Jimbo

        fastman, are you an American indian?

        All, notice how illegal immigration is never a “problem” when the economy is good? Have you considered that “illegal” is an arbitrary term, not only when it refers to assigning people that status, but in general as most “laws” are unconstitutional? Does anyone know that abuse of power by police is the highest in the country in Arizona, specially in Maricopa county? And we want to give them more power … more power to a corrupt “law enforcement” institution … good idea! This is a “Personal Liberty Digest”. It implies to me that they support less government (most of the readers of this blog supposedly do too), and yet it seems that more government is being supported by AZ SB1070. Do you see the trap we are falling into? They pick something that the majority of people seem to support to advance an agenda that they don’t say anything about.

        That aside, the “law” and Jan Brewer can say that racial profiling will not be tolerated, but how else can they “suspect” someone of being “illegal”? The additional power given to police officers will result in even more abuses of power. About 40% of the Arizona population will be target for these abuses at first, then they will discover that they can expand this power over the rest of the population. Increasing government for any excuse is a vicious cycle that will continue to drive our economy into the toilet. So next time you catch yourself saying: “but we need to do something about…” in support of more government, ask yourself: “at what cost? am I giving up any liberties as a consequence?” Oh, and using the old “I already have to…” and “the federal government is not doing …” … it’s a trap!

    • soopermn

      Based on the the law of the land constitutionality must be determined by the U.S. supreme court and must reach them through the chain of appeal courts. The federal govt. cannot act on the law until it reaches that point hence the lawsuit filed by the ACLU. I feel that although the law has the best of intentions it a clear that it also kick s the door open for profiling. We are not a show me your papers country and this will only lead to the illegals moving on and the mexican-american citizens being harassed and persecuted.

  • 1minuteman

    the aclu should change their name to unamerican civil liberties union because it seems like everything they stand for is unamerican. they will protect you right to burn our flag, stop prayer in school, take anything christian out of our government buildings etc. i dont think they are a good judge of what our founding fathers had in mind when they drew up our constituion. you will never see alqueda attack the aclu because they are on the same side.

    • JC

      A merican
      C ommunist
      L osers
      U nited

      • http://naver samurai

        How about the Athiest Communist Looney Liberal Union?

        • Mark

          ACLU

          All Criminals Love Us.

          • Jim H.

            ACLU- Anti-Christians for Lucifer Union

          • http://sparkysma@earthlink.net Penny R. Freeman

            Hey I love your definition of the ACLU. They, like the big labor union bosses, are about useless and more of a problem than a blessing. Of course, Jim H. had a good definition for the ACLU too.

        • crystal

          Tee Hee Hee!

          • fastman

            Believe me, it’s not anything to laugh about!

      • coal miner
        • coal miner

          Dale,

          Here is another one.

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right · Wikipedia on Bing

        • Jana

          Sorry coal miner we don’t want to go to your anti American sites. And, that is all they are too.

          • fastman

            Kind of like the ACLU ?

    • angel-wanna-be

      1MINUTEMAN, I agree, anything that has Christian attached to it, were the friggin’ so called vagabonds and I for one have had about enough of being pushed around about it. We have the right to freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The bible did say, that in time, people would view good as evil, and evil as good, it is so visible, a blind man could see it.

      • coal miner

        Dale,

        Read this.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right

        • Jana

          We don’t need your propaganda for the far right stuff. Actually we are NOT far right like you suggest. WE are in the middle. Most of us have always been in the center, but our politicians, almost all of them, have gone so far to the left (Socialism) that it SEEMS as though we are far right, but it isn’t so.
          You can claim a rose is a weed all day long, but it doesn’t make it so.

      • fastman

        Sounds like you read the same book I do!

    • Beepster

      “senior national counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), who stated that the law is “discriminatory”

      Now, THAT organization is discriminatory. This organization is STRICTLY for Mexicans, hence the name. Same applies to NAACP, Black Caucus, etc. Anyone ever heard of NAAWP? No, and that doesn’t mean I’m in favor of it – or any other race-based organization.

      • Saveournation

        GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! LAND THAT I LOVE. . . . It’s extremely disheartening to see the USA being torn down from within. By the way, does anyone remember the KKK, an organization once supported by (southern)democrats? It’s time to get over the racial division and strife and truly become “. . .one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Immigration is immigration and the laws must be enforced for the safety of the citizens. Arizona, you have supporters nationwide, so STAND YOUR GROUND!!!

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

          President Obama is the most devisive president I have ever seen or heard of. His goal is to divide and conquer. His campaign for president was for show. It was not his true intention to unite. He is turning Americans against Americans. If left unchecked he will destroy America.

          • jim hensley

            You are 100% correct in what you say Bruce. The imposter in the WH has an agenda to destroy our country.
            WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • June

      Thank you for your comments. You are right on.

  • Dennis

    I think I have a solution to all the mess in DC. We just need to kick out all the dems, repubs, and obama, then find and run a communist party person. That way all the talking and so called political BS would be over. This unknown person would make it simple, do it my way or else. Hey maybe we already have this, after all we have obama, pelosi and reid [for a while longer] and that is the way they do business. Forget the communist, they are already in power,my way or else. I recently read a great book about Vietnema, I am a Vet, and one of the platforms that Ho CI MIN had was “spread the wealth” does that sound famaliar???

    • JC

      160 Years ago in 1848 in Paris, France, a man named Carl Marx was asked to enter a competition which was sponsored by the National Socialist Union in Paris, France. Being a firm believer in Communism, Carl Marx called his submission “The Communist Manifesto” and within this manifesto Marx wrote down 10 Planks. These 10 Planks are the basic founding building blocks to a perfect Communist/Socialist society.

      Dennis and everyone else; You will find a very interesting comparison between the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto and our own Political System at this link -
      http://www.squidoo.com/communists-manifesto

      The Communist Party of America actually de-registered itself in (I believe) the late 50′s or early 60′s after seeing that the White House had adopted all 10 planks.

      We need to see a massive return and adherence to the Constitution of The United States of America and its original intent as set forth by the framers or suffer a complete loss of our identity and soveriegnty.

      • coal miner

        JC,

        Who ever wrote that didn’t spell Karl Marx’s name right,this mental giant had it spelled Carl Marx.National Socialism and Communism are two different philosophies,one is own the extreme right,the other the extreme left.Hitler wrote his book the Mein Kampf(meaning My Struggle)which bore no resemblance to Marx’s Das Kapital.Marx argue the workers would rule the world,Hitler said the. Nordic races are destined to be masters of the humanity,other races are only fit to serve the master race.Hitler said socialism and communism were invented by the Jews and he made no bones about it, he hated them.Read Mein Kampf,not the ranting and raving of Rush Limbaugh.

        • JC

          I’ll start with “Screw you.”
          Like the Liberal idiot you are you nit pick spelling and ignore the message.
          I have never listened to Beck / Limbaugh or Fox. I’ve simply studied American History and paid attention to the District of Criminals.
          And I’ll finish with Screw you and your liberal (socialist) pals.
          As far as I’m concerned we’re way past the point of dialogue with you people. Time for action, not words.

          • Steve

            JC
            Isn’t it funny how the libs always resort to the spelling issue, when that is their weakest link. I haven’t seen one of them that can spell, correctly form, or construct a proper sentence. But then when they can’t debate the issues, I guess that’s all they’ve got! lol ;-)

          • JC

            Morality and logic don’t fit into their agenda Steve,
            so you’re right, it is all they’ve got.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JC,
            Of all the libbies on here, I can’t believe that Coal scab is calling anyone on their spelling!! I’ve seen second graders that could spell better than him!!!

        • Dale

          Coal Miner . . . fascism was invented by Mussolini . . . he was a devout follower of Marx and Engels, the founders of Communism.
          Hitler was a fascist. The difference between fascism and communism was basic . . . the commies killed all the elite, the fascists meerly confiscated their property and business but had them run them. Hitler was right wing . . . that is an “Insane” statement . . . he was a Socialist, said so many times. And by the way what does NAZI mean???
          NAZI means “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” or National SOCIALIST German workers party.

          • coal miner

            Dale,

            Wrong,Mussolini was a Marxist Socialist.He later on became disenchanted with the left and founded a extreme right wing party which he named The Fascist Party,his goal make Italy a world power.Hitler never did embrace Marxism,he call it a Jewish invention.In the Mein Kampf he said the Jews over ran the great state of Russia and he always attack Marxism.The name National Socialism is a loose term,it was used to attrack soldiers,disgruntled workers and industrialist who feared communism and hated socialism.Years ago I contacted George Lincoln Rockwell ask him if he was on the left,his response he was a right winger.In the Playboy interview he said he challenged Robert Welch to a duel for calling him a communist.The American Fascist Party,The American Nazi party and The Fasist Party of Italy said they are on the right.So your argument is groundless.
            Encyclopedia Britannical source: Communisn extreme leftwing,The Nazi party and Fascist party extreme rightwing.

            Here are some of the famous right wing Fascist dictators.

            China: Chaing Kai-shek
            Portugal:Dr.Salazar
            Cuba: Batista
            Haiti:Dr,Duvalier

          • rjg

            Dale

            Fascism and Socialism are ideologies on opposites sides of the political spectrum. The U.S. is a ‘Rebublic’ and China is a ‘Republic’ but clearly they do not have similar political systems.

          • Anthony

            Some people say – that Karl Marx was one side of the spectrum, and it was also the side of the spectrum that the Central bank prefers over all others – unless they can simply commit genocide on a glabal scale, and get away with it.

            The “other” side of it is…. Neitzchie-ism… which is essentially FASCISM. This side of politics can and has severed a usual purpose – it is not the end-all, be-all and it’s death will pave the way for Marx-ism as they close the final Chapters for NWO.
            For now, Fascism is being implemented as a one=two punch against “Christianity”.. and that was the real goal for the Rothschild Clan when it created (my opinion) World War II. Remember Yalta? FDR sold half of Europe down the tubes when he gave Stalin Control of Eastern Europe – including East Germany.

            The real prize for the Rothschilds? They were allowed to create the State of ISRAEL, out of nothing… the Clan was allowed by the WWII Conference to steal the Palestinian Lands and made thousands of peaceful human beings homeless… I suggest you go look this up.

            This nonsense that Palestinians have been terrorists for hundreds of years… isn’t exactly the truth – more like recent propaganda by the Central Bank, to foment their need to take over the Middle East.

            Have you done your research on the Rothschild Family?
            Or are you just the latest Ostrich on the block?

          • fastman

            I am so wrong, I thought Nazi was Pelosi’s first name. oops

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

          It would be easy to discribe the left agenda as Fascist. Fascism retains private ownership but government regulates private ownership. Seems like the left wants to regulate everything they come into contact with. Also throw in a little socialism as the left makes no bones about their desire to redistribute wealth. Also I agree with the other blogger. To complain about a few spelling errors just makes you look small ‘coal miner’. My guess is you have never been near a coal mine in your life.

          • coal miner

            BruceD (brain donor)

            Retired,43 years in the mines,age 79.Started to work at the tender age of 17.My dad,my two brothers and half brother also were miners.My half brother was killed in Vietnam and dad died of a heart attack.My oldest daughter work part time in the mines,she was working her way through college, majoring in mathematics, besides teaching high school math she also teaches general buisness.If you got any more stupid questions about me not being a miner,let me know.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Bruce,
            no, he’s probably worked(?) in a coal mine but never worked hard!!! He always kissed up to his union boss to get the easy jobs!!!!

    • Robert Wayne

      That’s insane about finding a communist to run the govt. What do you think Obama is??? He’s an out and out avowed communist. And he’s been nothing but a miserable failure to all true Americans. As a matter of fact he’s an enemy to this country.

      • Jana

        Robert,
        Congratulations you said it right.

        These leftists try to make the right seem like Hitler types. They just aren’t smart enough to distinguish the fact that there are major differences. We aren’t these Hitler types.. We aren’t Socialists, or Communists or Marxists, we are right as in correct.
        They have given their own name of liberal such a bad name that now they are trying to put us down to lift themselves up. It just never seems to work for them, the reason is, its a lie.

  • Tony in MO

    According to Megyn Kelly, a Fox News program host and attorney, conducted some constitutional law research and said that Arizona’s law is constitutional and also is less stringent than existing Federal laws. I’d be far more inclined to believe her than I would those pandering and slobbering fools who have blustered and pontificated without even reading Arizona’s law.

    • John

      I saw that and agree too.

      As a recent citizen, I became a legal resident in 1981, I know what it’s like to have to prove my status at any time.

      I’m for Nat ID card (we already have it by another name) and let’s demand ID anytime, anywhere.
      That’ll take the issue TO the illegals rather than us having to be on the defensive from their attacks.

      • Jana

        We do have a national ID it is called our Social Security Number, then if we want to drive we must have a valid drivers license. The illegals don’t have these and they feel disgriminated against for having to show this proof. Well too bad, we have to show our proof to be able to drive, as well as insurance on the vehicle.
        Even in shcool they have school ID’s.
        This is such a stupid argument that this is discriminating. The only ones being discriminated against are the citizens of the United States.
        If you get behind an illegal while driving, most of the time you are going to be going 10 mph because they don’t know the laws. We have a lot of them around here and you can tell by the way they drive that they don’t read English and they don’t know our laws. If you get hit by an illegal they run and leave you with paying the bills for the accident. This is a daily occurance around here, and I know its worse in Arizona.

      • http://sizer@comporium.net Linda

        If any person is stoped by an officer the first thing they want is some kind of identification. How does this show any kind of discremination? Those who are so set on making life easy for “everyone” should take a helicopter ride along the Az border. Pics worth 1000 words. Why are the “loud-mouths” so set on this kind of destruction? Guess they are so settled in DC they don’t really know what goes on in the real world. I heard a lawyer say once that lawyers go to school for eight years to learn what the laws are so they can spend they’er career finding ways to get around them. Think this country is run by toooo many lawyers!!! Me too!!

  • 3rd worlder

    I always show my U.S. passport to police officers or anyone else of authority when asked for ID in America. Seems to carry more credibility than the other phony ID’s like driver license and registration. Don’t know if local police can ask for your passport, but I wouldn’t mind if they did it for everyone.

    • Jana

      3rd worlder,
      Thank you, and WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES.

    • marvin

      3rd worlder only trouble is most americans don,t have a need for a passport like me i went to canada 40 years ago but it is good you have id ,a lot of my ancestor were here befor the white or black man but when you set and watch elected officals all on the dem,oc,Rat, side STAND AND CLAP for a man from the failed state of mexico tell us we are wrong to try enforce are immigration laws and arizona has no bussiness passing immigration laws, the vp, pelosie,holder nepolitano were all committing treason by allowing this imbecile caldron to speak his garbage nov 2010 can,t come fast enuff my blue dog rep just lost my vote over this, we can not allowed this

  • Robert

    Maybe the ALCU should live on the border of Arizona and Mexico. Maybe illegal may threaten them and maybe they see what is wrong, or maybe they should read the law of Arizona. There is still a federal law and been one for years, but people not read that either. Try to cross into mexico from usa and see what happens to you if caught. Jail.

    • Jana

      Robert,
      The ACLU is part of the problem. They have their lawyers getting document fors the illegals.
      They come from Mexico armed with information on what their rights are and what they can get for free, and who to go to so they can get this free stuff. They know the ACLU lawyers are their friends. Remember as someone put the C was for Communism, and I beleive it.

      • Jana

        On the Anchor babies blog on this same site, one of the other bloggers wrote this, so I am copying this as well as my post right after as this is super good information.

        airangel says:
        May 22, 2010 at 10:47 am
        Within the past few years, leprosy, tuberculosis, hepatitis, Chagas disease and even malaria have jumped over our borders from Mexico on the backs of an average 10,000 illegal aliens daily, seven days a week and 365 days a year. Our borders are no safer today than before 9/11, and in fact, more dangerous.

        The national media-worthy traumas occurred two years ago at Chi-Chi Restaurants in Monaco, Pennsylvania with hepatitis killing patrons who ate there. Later, we read where police, teachers and students tested positive for tuberculosis all around the country. All of it related to illegal aliens crossing into the US without health screening.

        Last year, another Third World disease rose its ugly head in Oregon. It may have spread to other states across our nation. It won’t get the play of the deadly attacks of hepatitis or tuberculosis, however, for American children exposed to this disease, it’s a personal nightmare for parents.

        Worse, it may take years to manifest itself in the child. By that time, it may be too late. The infection is ‘neurocysticercosis’, which is caused by the parasite Taenia solium. It’s a tapeworm identified as the cause of this disease in the Southwestern United States.

        It is especially rampant in the growing ‘colonias’ (new neighborhoods) stretching from Brownsville, Texas along the Mexican border all the way to San Diego, California. The poorest illegal alien migrants set up shantytowns on the U.S. side of the border. They feature no sanitation of any kind. No toilets. No showers. No clean water. Disease proliferates unchecked.

        WE HAVE TO SECURE THE BORDER and CLEAN UP THE MESS. No wonder the hospitals are over taxed and shutting down…they simply can’t keep up and our kids are exposed..Calderon needs to take care of his own citizens and educate them on clean living and basic hygiene. We have a HUGE problem. Secure our borders and push back on Calderon.

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        Jana says:
        May 22, 2010 at 1:29 pm
        airangel,
        This is some very good information to know. Thanks for sharing this. We must realize that the people from the third world countries don’t have the clean water that we do, and don’t have the hygiene practices that we do.This is one of the reasons that they eat the really hot peppers and the really spicy foods, because it kills parasites and helps control a lot of the diseases. Plus, over here we are not used to all of the germs that they get into all of the time. They don’t know to wash their hands after going to the bathroom, they don’t wash their hands when they cough or sneeze or wipe away their runny noses with their hands. They haven’t been taught.
        Then, we invite these same people to come over and cook for us, and clean for us? WOW. No wonder there is an outbreak of new to us diseases. They aren’t doing this on purpose, they just don’t realize or know how to stop it. They don’t even realize they are carrying these things with them.
        There was more than one reason the government started pushing the hand sanitizers.

    • wayne bauer

      Why hasn’t the aclu been disbanded, why does anyone pay attention to this corrupt antiamerican organization. We do know there are way too many attorneys for the good of this country. This is one other area for the destruction of the country. We need to find legitimate jobs and quit recognizing attorneys. For info the owners of progressive insurance are biggest supporters of aclu are you supporting them? Words are great but to make a difference we need to take whatever action we can. Why do we let these lawsuits waste our judicial system, it should be known when they lose they pay all expenses.

  • Sylvia

    Washington speaks with forked tongue. They are after the catholic vote. They want the Hispanics voting in the USA. God have mercy on this great nation – it’s for sure the Obama administration is not seeking the good of the people.

  • Al Sieber

    Every time I was ever stopped by a cop here in Ariz. I’ve always been asked for I.D., what makes these people so special, the drug dealing president of the 3rd world terrorist state of Mexico needs to take care of his own country. and our congress plays kiss a$$ with the Mexican president, they’re all traitors to the people of the U.S..this state law mirrors federal law which isn’t enforced.

    • JC

      Al, the behaviour of those politicians is in line with their North American Union agenda. The goal is the removal of American, Canadian and Mexican sovereignty as the next step towards a Marxist Globalist government.
      We have to fight this act of sedition with every means available.

      • Al Sieber

        JC, my thoughts exactly, thanks for the link. if you read the communist manifesto we’re already there.

  • BRUCE

    WHY IS IT THESE GROUPS DON’T UNDERSTAND ILLEGALS HAVE NO RIGHTS IN OUR COUNTRY?. I SURE CAN TELL THEY DO NOT LIVE AMOUNG THEM OR THEIR ATTITUDE WOULD CHANGE…PRONTO

    • http://aol.com Bob

      these groups ( like the aclu and democrats) view them as a voting block to keep those losers in office. Frankly they need to show the face of every democrat or republican that clapped during the speech by the mexican president and kick them out of office. I think that the morons in the aclu need to be horse whipped and tarred and feathered and sent to mexico to live because they obviously don’t fathom what the word illegal means.

  • Kris

    It is required by fed law that all resident aliens carry their green card on their person at all times and are required to show it when asked for by law enforcement. The law, Moller vs Amenya, “sure I got the spelling wrong” give federal law enforcement the power to stop WITHOUT reasonable suspicion any person they come in contact with to show their identification. Arizona’s law makes that unlawful and reqires that the police have lawful contact with the subjects before they can ask for their “papers”. This was a recent decision by the supremes, like maybe 2005.

    Calderon coming over here and scolding us for making “our” own laws that he happens not to like is a disgrace. What is worse is this so called president letting, or should I say, giving him the material or a script to say it. The dems like a bunch of brainwashed loons standing up and cheering, is indefensable!!! I say we adopt Mexico’s immigration laws! But first, we have to bild more jail cells!

    • Kim McGough

      Yes, and send all those penny ante DC bunch that stood to honor the Mexican pres to Mexico and revoke their citizenship and take all of their assests and not let them come back to the USA

  • Dr. smith

    The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion”, impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

    There it is. How does the ACLU find the fact that Arizonians want to protect their border, their right to property, or the fact that those entering are doing it Illegally? Just shows how twisted, anti-American greedy parasitic lawyers can be.

    • JC

      Goes to show that our Justice System is not based on the Constitution at all. We have a “Law System” based on “Interpretations” of the Constitution. It’s completely immoral and as far as I’m concerned…traitorous.

    • TIME

      Dr Smith,
      All godd points, but saddly as with everything else its all a Dog and Pony show to hide whats really going on.
      If anyone reads this bill it they would note that it fails to do any of what the ACLU has stated in the noted suit.

      So why all the SMOKE, could it fact be due to old Hill the pill signing the UN small arms bill, that will make all US laws to include the second Amd – Null & Void?

      In plain words folks your guns are not long for your ownership.

      • Al Sieber

        TIME, was that signed earlier this week?

        • TIME

          Hi Al,
          Yes – as far as I know – thats from a really strong source one just a 1/2 step from the WH and someone who is a “true American” they are not one of these twisted bent perverted social justice progressive marxist sob’s that the DC belt way now seems to have a flood of.

          This Law side steps the Constitution, as well the normal methods of passing a bill through Congress and the Senate. Think the old One World Government / New World Order thing that we have been hearing about since Johnson.

          Keep in mind that BarryO also signed an agrement with the UN just days after getting into office in January 2009 – that allows UN Troops on US soild for any possible uprising.

          • Al Sieber

            TIME, I’m afraid you’re right, I “goggled it” and it said Hillary signed it.it’s a sad day in American History. I “goggled”: u.n./small arms treaty.

        • JC

          Depose the kenyan imposter and repeal every piece of legislation that blackgaurd has brought in.

    • American First

      That is right and where in the Ammendment does it say and or state that illegals from any Foriegn country, have any what so ever any kind of rights in the United States of America.

  • http://immigration.civiltalks.com/ JuanM961

    I am Latino and I run a little shop in Mohave Valley. All my immigration papers are in order, and apparently this should not make me fidget about this new law. I totally agree that ILLEGAL immigration is a problem, and that a lot of crimes are attributed namely to illegal immigrants (burglars, drug smugglers, kidnappers). Still I do not agree that all immigrants should be treated like criminals or potential criminals. Moreover it seems to me that this law is namely targeted at Mexican people. The police officer will now be allowed to check the immigration status of a person if “reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States…” (http://immigration.civiltalks.com). It is indisputable that the law officers will rather stop a Mexican, Hispanic, Japanese or Chinese guy to check his documents than a European looking person, since they a priori raise more “reasonable suspicion”. And I know that the law prohibits racial profiling, but it’s still up to the judgment of each individual police officer in deciding what is “reasonable suspicion”.

    • JC

      Juan, I have friends who are of Mexican descent and they are as American as the European version. But they behave as Americans and with their brown eyes and black hair they know they would possibly targeted by INS etc.. They don’t seem to mind the idea because they want the streets cleaned up just as much as their fellow Americans do.
      One of these friends can trace his roots back to the Alamo where one of his ancestors fought…from “inside” the fort. How American is that?

    • Al Sieber

      JuanM961,I live not to far from you, near the little ghost town east of you. what do the majority of people sneaking over from Mexico look like?

    • squellybean

      Awwww….poor baby…you come to this country ILLEGALLY and the poor USA police are picking on you!!!!!! Come LEGALLY and you won’t have to worry about profiling or “discrimination”. If you ask me…ILLEGALS can’t be “discriminated” in our country because they have NO RIGHTS!!! They don’t belong here in the first place!!!!

      Americans are SICK of the bull these illegals are getting away with and the US Govt allowing it to continue……..FINALLY a state is taking initiative and standing up for itself and it’s citizens……nothing “illegal” about the law…it’s just that the Illegals and the ilk that like to stir up SHIT don’t like being told what to do under the same law that the LEGAL Americans have to do…

      Don’t like our laws??? GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Al Sieber

      JuanM961, I’m not picking on you, but, if I was in Mexico illegally I could be picked out of crowd easy. everybody has to show I.D. when you’re stopped.

    • TIME

      Juan,

      I think you may be missing the point, the facts as you stated are that you are here legaly, or did I read that wrong?

      The folks that brought me up were here legaly from Japan but during WW II they were removed from their home and sent to a Prison Camp, yes you read that right. They spent 3 years in that camp, “they lost thier home, thier small business and three years of their life” behind bars for no reason at all.

      And you know what they never complained, they understood that it was for the benifit of the Country.

      So if your pissing and moaning over a law that if you really saw all 15 pages of it, you would see that it clearly has no effect on anything other than mandating that the {{federal laws already in place be enforced to the letter of the law.}}

    • AZ Rifleman

      Hi Juan,

      I’ve been in Law Enforcement for more than 30 years and throughout have never had the desire, or entertained the thought of harrasing or profiling anyone for any reason. the truth is business is good and there is pleanty of crime to go around and little free time beyond legitimately addressing it.

      Yet the glaring truth regarding illigal imigration is that a person illegally in this country as any other, is by their presence committing a crime and therefore to a some degree, by the ongoing act, a criminal (Living / acting outside the established law).

      The process established by any contry to allow entry and residence temporary or perminant is very important in the security of the country of desire because it is through these steps the applicant can be previewed, and determined not only to be allowed legal acceptance but as well to identify existance of a criminal /non-criminal past or connection.

      Once this “status” is addressed through the legal imigration process, the applicant is legitimately identified and admittance is permitted this takes a load off the back of the “Cop on the beat”, because he knows in reviewing a document of such status, the “background” on this person here legally, has been reviewed and approved and he isn’t strapped with the additional duty of investigating beyond it. Subsequently he is free to then complete the assignment he was called to originally and move on.

      It’s much like an officer investigating a traffic accident. Protocol dictates upon arrival he makes the scene secure and attends to injury, then he is free to commit to the incident investigation. In doing so identifying involved persons, (drivers, passengers, witnesses is essential). The monkey wrench is thrown though when an involved person can not produce verifications such as Driver’s License, registration, Insurance, which by law are demanded to be carried and made available by drivers on all public thoroughfarea in the US.

      It is my experience, any inquiry originates through an assessment of possible violation promped by resonable suspicion and developed through investigative practice to probable cause followed as if by rungs in a ladder each step addressed in its own turn and time accorded by rules, regulations and policies which we are required for numerous reasons to operate within. These procedures construct the framework that directs our contact with those we serve.

      Beleive me the new issues surrounding Illegal Imigration are not viewed as some wimsical opportunity to pad some stat-book, but one more burdon added to the officer on the street who took an oath to do his duty, protect and serve and enforce all laws of the state.

      Wheather it is admitted or not with most persons presenting opposition to immigration reform and action is not a question of procedure in enforcement, but a desire for law enforcement to turn his head and not get involved. That “cancer” is called selective enforcement.

      Sincerely and with deepest respect…

      • JC

        God Bless and GO ARIZONA

      • Jana

        AZ Rifleman,
        thank you for this great post.
        I think most of realize that the police are not out to “get” anyone, just those that are out breaking the laws or hurting people. The police’s job is to help people, even illegals if they are in trouble. No one is out to persecute anyone. Too much paperwork!.

    • Old man

      I have read Arizona’s new law several times, yet I do not see the words Mexican, or Hispanic any where in the law. I have been informed by a very good source, that there are several other non-hispanic countries sending people in across our Southern border.
      How ever, if a police officer pulls a car (on the waqy to get ice cream!) and the occupants cannpot speak English, he/she suddenly has good reason to wonder if this person actually belongs here.

      But let us stop and think a minute, when was the last time a police officer pulled any one over and did not ask to see identification? Usually a drivers license will do it, but if not, or if you did something pretty bad (or if they think you did), you may be taken to jail and booked. Then you contact your lawyer, and he will straighten the mess out if you are innocent, if you are not innocent, you have to pay the price. That is what happens when you are guilty of misdeeds in this country. Other countries, well not so easy as that!

      Now back to the original question of sueing Arizona. If their law mirrors the United States law, will they be sueing the United States government also?

      You will find that most people in this country like Hispanics, if they are decent people. The problems start when the subjects start coming here illegaly. We do actually have rules allowing people to igrate here, but they need to follow this path to avoid being illegals.
      May I remind you that most of the conspiriters of the 9/11 tragedy were here illegaly.

      Oh and I have spent time in Mexico and other hispanic countries. You do not want to be put in jail there!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JuanM961,
      Welcome to your new country and I truly mean that as you are here legally, if what you say is fact. I can tell you have made the same mistake as the DC types and have not read the Arizona law. If you had, you would know anyone stopped and asked for ID have to have broken some type of law, even a minor infraction! I f they don’t speed, deal drugs murder, illegally park, break ANY law at all they don’t have to worry! In other words, keep your nose clean like I have for 59 years. Never had even a parking ticket!!!

    • James R

      Hello Juan, remember the law states that the Police Officer can only ask about legal status, after the person has been contacted due to a lawful reason, or the infraction of a law witnessed by the officer. He cannot just stop someone if they are not breaking any laws. He can only ask about legal status if he has a “resonable suspicion” that the person could be an illigal alien, after he has made a lawful encounter. I wish people would remember what the law actually states.

    • marvin

      JuanM961 i guess that why i have been stopped hundreds of times,in my 65 years guess mabe they could not tell i am white and have proper papers or id, well now here an idea mabe they don,t give a rats ass what color you are, mabe they think that a gun and badge give them that right,THEY ARE THE ENFORCER OF THE LAW STUPED 99.9% of the time if you an,t doing nothing illegal you have nothing to worry about

  • Eric in AZ

    What if YOU, as a legal, documented AMERICAN, were pulled over by the police. This officer asks you for your drivers license. YOU AS AN LEGAL AMERICAN fail to show your ID, you cannot prove who you are. The Officer “runs” who you claim you are and finds no such person. You are now suspect because the officer cannot identify you. What happens to you in ANY state of this union? I’ll tell you if you don’t know. WELL H***, YOU ARE DETAINED AND ARRESTED!!! AS A LEGAL AMERICAN!! What makes them think that they are better than us!!
    Racisim…….

    • TIME

      Eric, Good point dude thats why you by law are required to have a photo ID of yourself at all times.

      In NY they do road side checks all the time, I am not sure the real reason behind them but these are what is noted;
      DUI, Driving with out seat belts, amoung other reasons, oh and you can be pulled over for talking on a cell phone as thats now a No No here and way long over due if I do say so myself.

      • Todd

        Uhh, actually you are not required to carry id on your person all the time in the USA as a citizen (tourists – yes, green card holders – yes). You do or course have to have a valid license when operating a vehicle on public roads. as far as the moron thinking he won’t be found in the system, i think he’s trying to find a reason to complain about a law that has been on the books for quite a long time (federal law). Funny how since dems are in power now this is such a problem. I’m with another commenter, AZ should say: “Fine, you don’t like it, we’ll repeal it and replace it with a carbon copy of Mexico’s law” happy now? Every country on the planet has immigration laws. Unlike the US, they actually enforce theirs. Iran holding three lost hikers for violating their immigration laws and not a peep from the left. The enemy is getting desperate, and is becoming more obvious in his actions, if only folks will open they eyes to see and their ears to hear.

        • bruce callen

          American citizens by law are required to carry their social security card on their person at all times. Many states sell state IDs as an acceptable form of identification of American citizens. As a result of state laws wallet size birth certificates are available to all citizens and required to be presented as part of the papers you must present for a traffic stop. American citizens actually are required to carry far more identification than an illegal in our country.

          Arizona is a sovereign state with the right to determine whom they want as a citizen or as a visitor. Unless you are a citizen you have no rights under our laws, just the respect one person should show another. Discrimination is not part of their new law, controlling crime in their state is.

  • LMW

    We’re not a “show us your papers” kind of country? Since when? To get a job, we are asked to show our Drivers License and our Social Security cards. In some states, and a number which is growing, in order to get your Drivers License, you now have to show your Birth Certificate or Naturalization Papers, Proof of any name change, Social Security Card and two proofs of residence with YOUR name on them or an affidavit from the person who’s name is on it. To open a checking account, you show ID. To put your child in school, you show ID…..but apparently, only if you’re an American Citizen.

    It is easier to register to vote then it is to get a Drivers License in many states – seems like American Citizens are the only ones required to show papers in this country anymore…..I have to say I never bought into the theory that the Dems want the illegals to be given the right to vote in order to have permanent control of Washington – but I’m getting there.

    The ACLU has the right to file suit – but I doubt they’ll win on this one since the Arizona Law, despite the Lies of the Democrats and the Mexican President, differs from the Federal Law in only one way – the police have to have legal reason to ask for the ID – Feds can stop anyone on the street and ask………! And cops who can’t prove they had legitimate reasons can be jailed and/or have a lawsuit filed against them.

  • Brent Davidson

    Excuse me! Why doesn’t the President of the USA want to follow the laws of our boders and protect us from unathorized invasion, and corruption??
    Police all over America stop people all the time performing “ROAD CHECKS.”
    They always ask for some form of legal documentation, and ask questions like where have you been ? Have you been drinking? Where are you going? Where do you live. If police can’t stop people in Arizona for any reason, it seems to me that ROAD CHECKS, and unauthorized stops, should be illegal elsewhere too.
    Who would have thought there could be Law suits filed because we want the US immigration Laws to be enforced ?? Wol! More tax payer money down the drain! Will the blunder of America ever stop?

    • OKAY

      Brent Davidson…”Why doesn’t the President of the USA want to follow the laws of our borders and protect us from unathorized invasion, and corruption??” That’s easy. Because he’s anti-American and wants to divide this country using any means possible. He adhers to the “divide and conquer” axiom. When he let Mexico’s president bad mouth the Arizona immigration law, he took the side of the illegals and threw American’s under the bus. In his treasonous mind, America is the enemy so he comes to the aid of the illegals and our enemies. Let’s not forgot that he’s trying to drum up bodies that will vote his way in future elections. We have a lot of work ahead of us to save this country because we are being attacked from within, literally and figuratively. It’s a shame that some of our own members of Congress gave a standing ovation to this moron after he chastized Arizona’s law. As far as I’m concerned, that makes them anti-American too and they and our apologetic president don’t need to be representing this country.

    • JC

      The President’s goal is the destruction of the USA. He works for the globalists.

  • paul kimrey

    The ACLU and the progressive movement go by the principle that if you tell a lie often enough and loud enough and just ignore all arguments to the contrary,that the lie by proxy become truth.

  • chucky

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SPIN IT ,NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SUGAR COAT IT. SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS THAN TOTAL DEPORTATION. AMERICA NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BACK BY WE THE PEOPLE. ANY POLITICIANS WHO STOOD IN OVATION FOR EL PRESIDENTE CALDERON YESTERDAY COMMITTED TREASON IN MY EYES, aAND THE EYES OF MANY AMERICA. YOU PLACED YOUR HAND ON THE BIBLE AND TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. YOUR VOTE THIS NOVEMBER JUST MIGHT BE THE MOST VALUABLE OF ALL THE POSSESIONS YOU HOLD. GOD(OMG I SAID THE G WORD) BLESS AMERICA.

  • Eric in AZ

    Oh, and by-the-way. The ILLEGAL, UNDOCUMENTED suspects are released.
    No questions.

    • Al Sieber

      You hit the nail on the head Eric in AZ., I don’t understand why they’re treated so special, that what pisses me off, no drivers license, no insurance, you can go. I guess it’s like that in other states too.

  • bargal

    Tony in MO is correct and I to wish the main stream media would get a transcript of Oreilly’s show from 5-20-2010 and write the facts as Megan Kelly espoused them and stop all this bull shite and dump this POTUSINO’s attempt to start a race war. The law in Arizona is against ILLEGALS of any race from any country coming across Arizona’s border and so is the IMMIGRATION LAW in the Federal books. Stop to think folks: it is illegal to drive a car under the influence of a mind altering drug (alcohol, narcotics, meds, etc) so they put up check points to stop the all drivers coming to that check point to ensure safety on the roads.At the time we are stopped and there is a suspicion we may be driving IILLEGALY, we, under the law can be asked for our I.D. What the hell is the difference if we are checking people, after a legal altercation with the police and ask them for I.D.? Is the POTUSINO so desperate for votes that he has to start singling out states that disagree with his policies?Is the media still in awe of this man that refuses to prove he is an American citizen when all the rest of us are compelled to do so on every avenue we take?

    • KELLI2L

      You comments are absolutely correct.
      What would this administration do? Allow the ILLEGALS to not be asked for papers but only require the American citizens to produce identification? …..This is crazy thinking !!!

  • Norman

    If you will take the time to read to read The Constitution and then compare it to the Arizona Law you will not find much difference. The Arizona Law just enforces what is said in the Constitute that “OUR GOVERNMENT” will not enforce. We have all the “LAWS” we need, we just need “ENFORCEMENT” of them by “OUR GOVERNMENT”! Do not tie the hands of the Law Enforcement Offerers that are only trying to do their jobs, their job is tough enough as it is, give them some help to uphold the Constitute of our “GREAT LAND!” And you might become an “OATH KEEPER” yourself! That is if you want to help save “OUR GREAT COUNTRY”
    Korean Vet and
    OATH KEEPER

  • David

    I saw that disgusting speach Obama made for the President of Mexico. He said and did everything but kiss his ass. He probably did that later behind closed doors.

  • jtrailroad

    illegal aliens dont have civcil rights for they arnt american citizens.if they dont haave the paper work with them.they must have with them,
    passport
    work visa
    a suporter
    file for an I-9 form so they cxan get I-94 document with them. it tells the USA thier legal name,legal residence,what nation they are from,social securty card number and what job(s) they can do.I-94 document must be shown with in 3 days of hirring or they aree supended from that job!

  • chris from sc

    Where are the other states who believe that enforcing our laws are the right thing to do .Laws should apply to everyone,I can kinda see were the liberial don’t want to hurt anyone’s fellings states back away but were are our conservative believe in the law o the land states!We can/t leave Arizona out to dry just because they did was right.I’m from S.C. ad if we can get this law on the docket before june it has a chance.So please call your lawmaker’s and let them know this is already a law we just ned to inforce it.AS for as these sancuary cities calling for boycotts if you get a chance travel to Arizona go it’s a great state and tell the how much you appreciate and admire them for following our law’s.One more thing the illegal’s have crushed the construction trade they work cheap, fast and shoty why should yyou take pride in what your doing why take pride in your work if your here just to make money to send back to Mexico.S.C. is a right to work state and when obama signed is executive order saying any federal job over 25,000,000 that put the screws to alot of company’s,maybe it’s me but sound’s like abuse of power.Next time you see on t.v. all these american recovery job’s count the amigo’s on them.If you here the media spin it the only thing immagants or doing is working resturant’s,cleaning motel’s and house’s for cheap labor but I’m telling you they are killing the construction trade where it take’s year’s to aquire,and please if I here they pay taxe’s one more time I’m going to pull what little bit of hair I have out!Please people Arizona need’s our hep.

    • bruce callen

      Right on. They work all the jobs we wont take because we cant live on what they pay the illegal workers. Nor do we wish to live on a single cot with 30 other people in a hallway of some run down building owned by an over paid banker.

  • Bob Plugh

    Obuma Hussein is as close to the anti-christ as I have seen. Hitler – HA – Hitler was a piece of dog s**t compared to Obuma Hussein. Obuma is a far greater threat to the US than Hitler because he is slowly dismantling it – from the INSIDE OUT.

    It is no small consequence that he doesn’t allow his educational records to be viewed, that his SSN comes from Connecticut, a place he never visited, that he was largely raised in Muslim Countries by MUSLIMS, that his book, “Dreams of my Father” says quite plainly that he will stand with the Muslims, against other!!!

    I feel like I’m in one of those movies like the Outer Limits where you just don’t believe that everyone around you isn’t aware of what’s going on and you’re about to wake up… I just hope ENOUGH of us ARE aware and take action – vote these bast**ds out ASAP! In fact, IMPEACH them. They ALL took oaths of office to uphold and defend the constitution, NEITHER of which they are doing!!! IMPEACH!!!!

  • http://yahoo Ed California

    ACLU= (All controlling left union) I ignore anything this group stands for because it stands for nothing in my opinion. It stands for the Clintons, Bushes, Obama’s. ACLU why don’t you investigate what happened in the social security office where somebody was murdered. Your reputation speaks for its self. I agree with all of the prior posts. Keep going Govenern Brewer Americans are behind you not Obama the freedom taker.

  • KELLI2L

    - – It is my opinion that Americans’ should sue because our Civil Rights are being violated by the ILLEGAL immigrants !!!

  • http://verizon.net LaRebelle

    First of all, caucasion, christian-conservatives should file a class action lawsuit against the ACLU on the basis of harassment, discrimination, and racism. Secondly, I’m mighty embarrassed that the President of my country applauded as a foreigner trashed OUR great nation on the floor of OUR Congress. Since Mr. Calderon clearly cannot deal with his own country’s problems nor read a bill correctly, he should keep his nose out of American law. He failed to even mention that Mexico’s immigration law is not nearly as humane and generous as ours. What hypocrisy! This fiasco has awakened a sleeping giant. American citizens are fed up. We, the people, say “Stay out of our business, Remember the Alamo, and hasta la vista, baby.”

    • JLC

      LaRebelle — I suggest one minor change to your post. Change “Hasta la vista” to read “Adiós” “Hasta la vista” is temporary. “Adiós” is permanent!

  • Geri Gustin

    I wonder if Omar Jadwat, attorney for the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project is a Christian?

  • lalalala

    we are the UNITED states of America

  • Marilyn

    The fatuous fatheads in Washington DC and other States need to go look at the the Sonorn Desesrt. About 1.5 miles long, just outside Tucson,AZ. The Wash is filled with human feces, discarded backpacks, food wrappers, clothing, soiled baby diapers, and trash undescribable. Trash that is left behind is from people illegally crossing our borders and is another Environmental Disaster to hit the USA. This trail leads directly North to Tucson, then leads to your town tomorrow. As for the 14th Amendment, it does not refer to this sort of situation. It was illegally enacted during the Civil War. Illegal Aliens do not have civil rights. They must have entered USA with passport, work visa, a sponsor… For any State or the Federal Government to protect these illegal aliens, they must have their heads in the sand. It appears that not only do border patrols need to watch for drug traffic but pregnant women who want to drop their babies on US soil so “babies can sponsor” the mothers, fathers, and all the babies’ relatives into the USA??!! I must have read the wrong History and Government books.

    As for ACLU, they can kiss my ___. They are a disgrace to the human race. What started out to be a good thing has turned into nothing but a money-grabbing outfit that grows rich off of the poor and rich and ridiculous claims. Real Americans, ALL RACES, can do without the ACLU; They now suck the blood right out of “Americanism”.

    I fully support Arizona and any State that wishes to follow Arizon’s lead.

  • s c

    Well, I see the sunny beaches and muddafuddahs at the ACLU are in the thick of this circus (how unpredictable). This time, Arizona’s new law somehow violates the First Amendment.
    Apparently, the FACT that hordes of ILLEGALS crossing the Arizona border isn’t a violation of any law. I guess it depends on which set of role-colored glasses you wear. One set gets you EASY VOTES, another keeps your sorry ass in office, and the third set leaves you high and dry and unprotected (compliments of UNCLE SCAM).
    What I’d like to know is when the ACLU, the Sierra muthas and the enviro wackos are going to VOLUNTEER to clean up the damage to Arizona’s ecosystem. Those HORDES of ILLEGALS who cross Arizona’s borders leave tons of TRASH that is beyond ugly and causes PERMANENT DAMAGE. Doesn’t THAT count for anything? I thought that was a SERIOUS violation of Mama Earth. If you pathetic sunny beaches and mamy jammers want to play the environment game, you’d better damn well play by your own PSYCHOTIC rules.
    And you can take your repeated, unconstitutional violation of STATES RIGHTS and JAM it wherever it feels best, you criminal sons and daughters of Karl Marx!

  • Michelle

    So the Federal Immigration laws are also against civil rights – because the Arizona law IS the federal law, just put into the state law so Arizona could actually do something about illegal immigration since the federal government refuses. California has an immigration law also that does NOT prohibit them from using race as a factor – but their law isn’t being challenge. So is asking for a drivers license a violation of civil rights? Is asking for identification when you are in a legal confrontation with police against civil rights?

    Yet this administration continues to pass laws that violate citizens civil rights every day. We are being forced to purchase health insurance. They want to regulate the food we eat, put standards on children’s health checking BMI during health exams to determine if we are feeding our children properly, ban fast food, soda and candy. These aren’t violating our civil rights?

    With all their claims that this law “may” result in racial profiling, what has the federal government done to help Arizona – NOTHING! They refused a proposal last week to finish the fence. They will not send additional border agents to help secure our borders. They will not even enforce the federal laws on the books. Whose side are they on – not the Americans!

  • D. Osmundson

    All the rhetoric about the AZ law can be stopped by one simple act. Enforce the EXISTING law concerning hiring illegal workers. You don’t have to build a fence at the border or amend the Constitution if you remove the reward for coming here illegally. Have the ICE check the status of any workers hired to see if they are citizens or resident aliens. ALL others will be detained and questioned. That is what the ICE is chartered to do. The businesses who hired the illegals should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of EXISTING law and fined the maximum allowed. Take away the economic incentive to hire illegals, and they will find no work, and as a direct consequence, no incentive to cross the border. If all illegals are faced with NO WORK, NO MONEY, and increased pressure from ICE, they would definately think twice about crossing the border illegally. Then the LEGAL process would represent greater opportunity for those desirable immigrants who can pass the scrutiny of the petition for US citizenship/work permit. Those who cannot, namely criminals, will not apply or pass the required entry steps. QED

  • http://PersonalLibertydigest Barry Boyce

    Having lived in Az & wanting to go back, I again applaud Gov. Brewer.
    As for “OUR” country, “AMERICANS” of all nationalities, wheather born here or legally became citizens, need to stand up and fight against the ACLU, any President, Congressman, Representitive or authoritive figure to return this country to “OUR” Constitutions written meaning. This country was founded on great beliefs that are being destoyed with every new lawsuit, law against the constitution and groups of people who do not care about the USA. As an American Veteran, I took an oath to defend “MY COUNTRY” from all foriegn and domestic terrorist. “Stand up America – Defend OUR Country”.

  • JC

    (from an Email)

    “Let’s say I break into your house”

    Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the
    country protesting the fact that Arizona is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration.

    Certain people are angry that Arizona might protect
    its own borders, and make it harder to sneak
    into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely.

    Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind
    these protests.

    Let’s say I break into your house.

    Let’s say that when you discover me in your house, you insist
    that I leave.

    But I say, ‘No! I like it here. It’s better than my house. I’ve made
    all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I’ve done all the things you don’t like to do. I’m hard-working and honest
    (except for when I broke into your house).

    According to the protesters:
    You are Required to let me stay in your house.
    You are Required to feed me.
    You are Required to add me to your family’s insurance plan.
    You are Required to Educate my kids.
    You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family.

    My husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-
    working and honest.
    (except for that breaking in part).

    If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my
    friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there.

    It’s only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I
    do, and I’m just trying to better myself. I’m a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house
    And what a deal it is for me!!

    I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of
    my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behaviour.

    Oh yeah, and I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so that you can communicate with me.

    Why can’t people see how ridiculous this is?!

    America is populated and governed by idiots.

    If you agree, pass it on
    (in English).
    If not blow it off………
    along with your future Social Security funds and a lot of the
    former benefits of being an American Citizen.

    • Al Sieber

      SC, you have no front door, they don’t have to break in, the doors are wide open…. they just walk in.

      • JC

        True. Sad but True.
        Well at Least Jan Brewer has the nerve our so called President should have and she’s doing something about that.

  • George

    What part of illegal don’t this administration understand? We are being invaded (arms not withstanding) anyone supporting this invasion is a traitor and should be tried for treason. Including those with no birth certificate.

  • Deanne

    And what right does Mexico have to diss Arizona’s law. Have they not read their own immigration laws. We should enact the same laws they impose on illegals that come to Mexico

  • Duane

    Civil Rights? Everything has something to do with cvi rights anymore. Illegal invaders must be deported to the country they came from.
    We must stop giving away our country to everyone that cries my civil rights are not being inforced.

    • bruce callen

      We need to enact Australian immigration laws.

  • Marilyn

    I just read an interesting bit of news. As if we were not aware of this…not only illegal Mexicans are crossing the border but we have other nationalities coming through South America, learning Spanish and following the illegal Mexicans across the border. The debris they leave behind indicate the United States is being populated with very very undesirables, like terrorits. I’m sure they fade into the shadows once they reach US soil; maybe one of our new neighbors? The Federal Government will not protect the southern border – only want to slap Arizona’s hands. That is a bit strange. The Federal Government certainly knows that more than illegal Mexicans are coming into the US via the Mexican border.

  • Kyoda

    I don’t understand why TERM LIMITS for Congress is not being advocated as a possible solution for many of our countries ills. I believe 2 terms and out would reduce corruption, pork projects, etc…, as well as bring the constitution back into focus.

    P.S. The elimination of proffessional politicians is paramount for our great country’s survival.

  • Jim H.

    We’re not a show us your papers state? At the State Diner held in Calderon’s honor, I’ll bet all the guests,press and people working it, had to show ID to get in. This article doesn’t explain how the arizona law violates the 1rst amendment rights of someone who isn’t even a US citizen, as the ACLU claims.

  • eddie47d

    The Federal Government has the sole power to regulate immigration.The States can only regulate as a violation of Civic Code. Arizona violates the Supremacy Law of the U.S. Constitution. They certainly have the right to challenge the Constitution but that can be an uphill battle and very costly. At least it will put the pressure on Washington to move alittle quicker.

    • Jim H.

      Eddie, The state of Arizona isn’t trying to regulate immigration law, just ILLEGAL immigration law. 2 different things. As soon as people quit lumping the two together it will be easier to understand. They just want to get a handle on the ILLEGAL ones. Repeat- ILLEGAL’S. States DO have a right to protect their LEGAL CITIZEN’S.

    • James R

      eddie, the issue here is “enforcement”. Not trying to supersede federal law. Notwithstanding, federal law already exists that makes it illegal to be in this country illegally. The new Arizona law just makes it a felony for the Illegal to be in their state. Thus allowing Arizona Law Enforcement to act upon or “Enforce” the law that the Federal Govt. is not enforcing. See, simple.

    • marvin

      eddie47d you have not read the federal law try this google illegal immigration law, the states do have the right to enforce immigration law

  • Vivian P

    What is the problem if you are here legally?

    You have no right to be here illegally, so bone up and be accountable for yourself instead of blaming everyone else.

    You come here and try to change the U.S. to be like Mexico. Just stay in Mexico if the country treats you so terrible and you like Mexico so well.

  • valricoslash

    Based on the spectacle of Calderon in “Our House” dissing America and the Dems standing and clapping like a bunch of trained penquins, I highly recommend that every Democrat be turned out of office this November. How dare he insult the American people in our Hosue of Prersentatives and i am completley appaled that the Dems gave him a standing ovation. Even if you are a Democrat you should be appaled by this behavior and should be writing your representative right now to informthem fo your discust. vote against them in your primaries. Even new Democrat represntatives and Senators would be better than what we have now. Throw them all out. Perhaps they can find new political life in Mexico.

  • http://joblessearnings.com Penny Muckleroy

    Someone is going to have to explain to me why it’s not ok to ask someone in Arizona to prove who they are. I know I’ve been ask often enough to show my ID. What are we all put through just to get on a plane in todays world, (being herded through a machine that shows our naked bodies, have our cosmetics confiscated because they are over 4 oz. having our ID looked at numerous times before we get on the plane, “profiled” and taken out of line to be “searched” – I don’t fly unless I absolutely have to because of this – wonder why the air lines are having a hard time getting customers). Then I can’t tell you the times I’ve been stopped in my car only to find out I haven’t done anything wrong but it looked like I might be. If I travel to another country I have to prove I have a legal right to be there. Why should our country be the only one who doesn’t have a right to expect it’s “guest” to prove they have an invitation. I guess the new so called immigration law being looked at in Washington is supposed to fix the issue of the poor illegal immigrants maltreated plight in mean old America. If you haven’t heard about it I suggest you do so. Our lying, self serving, politicians have decided that anyone in America illegally should get to stay and be given (at tax payers expense) everything they could possibly need for free including earned income credit without ever having to pay into the tax system. Shoot, who wouldn’t want to be an illegal immigrant. I bet there are many people who are here legally who will want to go home just to come back into the country illegally so they can get all the freebies too.

  • Justmy02

    I cannot fathom any US President allowing a foreign government to denigrate US laws. It truly boggles the mind. But then Obama and wife were anti-American from the get-go and so many citizens chose to ignore that fact…

    The Mexican president should go back to his own country and start to make it more attractive for his people to live in. He ‘says’ he is doing that, but if so then why are so many of their citizens coming here? I propose we take over Mexico and tax the **** out of it to cover the cost of so many additional citizens. There are a great many expats both from the US and Canada living there (with PROPER DOCUMENTATION, I MIGHT ADD), and I am quite certain they add immeasurably to the Mexican economy, whereas most illegals living here export the greater portion of the money they make to help their relatives in Mexico rather than putting it back into the economy of the country which pays for their schooling, health care, documents, TV programs and classes in Spanish, etc.

    It really irritates me that our immigration laws are enforced for every other group of people besides this one, and their president has the unmitigated gall to disparage our laws. Every other country in the world enforces its immigration laws, but let the US even try to do so and the world howls…

    BS!

    • Anthony

      But then Obama and wife were anti-American from the get-go and so many citizens chose to ignore that fact…

      It does make one wonder why they were so quick to vote for this guy, especially if they could openly see this, going in. The dumbing down tctic has certainly garnered a certain level of profit, for some… hasn’t it?

      • JC

        Yes Anthony, dumb them down in schools and get them addicted to welfare. That way you kill the work ethic and any discussion of a higher level than “Gee I wonder what’s on sale at WalMart today”
        People like that will always vote for the system that let’s them be lazy. And that’s how we got the Kenyan “Community Organizer”.
        (That, and Bush pissed everyone off.)

  • Charlie

    AZ and we Americans do not want illegal open boarders I dont want killer and terriorist in America. We don’t need good people hurt. Illegal is wrong entry period. Not based on race or skin color it is about illegal entry to for whomever.One way up United we stand and fight for our rights! I am so sorry that LA has to boycott AZ and American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a coalition of civil rights groups filed a class action lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, charging that the law is “extreme,” opens doors to racial profiling of minorities, violates the First Amendment and interferes with Federal law.Shows how little they think No wonder we are broke. LA and Am Civil Liberties should tend to there own Business and stop makeing this racial Would they like the terriorts coming to destroy USA? Our boarders need to be protected! Illegal entry is wrong!We Americans have to show a passport before going into another country or we are detained or arrested, if we are stopped for traffic violation, we are instructed to show ID and Insurance card or we are detained or arrested, yet the above states it’s unconstitutional to ask for legal immigration papers. President Obama Aunt came here in 2000 and was to be deported in 1004 but now she gets to stay Guess its who you know in hire places .. Discrimination Democrats and the Mexican President was at the big White house Social party? Guess they had a lot to negoitations Amazing the guests that were invited! All of us Americans have to show so many cards and ID for so many reasons!…”Why doesn’t the President of the USA want to follow the laws of our borders and protect us from unathorized invasion, and corruption?”This is #one issue to protect the USA” .. All of our borders No illegal entry No more 9-11 this is illegal entry not race.. Dont blow things out of proportion and focus on Right and our security. Thank you

    • eddy james

      My god charlie, we are being invaded by Mexicans. this has nothing to do with immigration. Its is a full blown invasion when there is 20,000,000 or more here. 20,000,000 or more ,if you count all the ones they have given amnesty to in the past there is no telling how many there are. Any way, I digress , When there are 20,000,000+ here Mexican are the ones we need to stop and ask ID from, It is not our fault they are all brown and look alike, it just seems like racial profiling because all the illegal Mexicans are Mexicans, it just works out that way. I think we should stop and Id any body that is green or purple or vivid maroon.

  • http://personalliberty.com Tracie

    One question…does the U.S. Constitution even COVER illegals? I would think NOT. If Arizona’s law is ‘un-American’ it’s because these ‘un-Americans’ don’t like it.
    This administration doesn’t want to read the law, if they did,they’d have to admit they were wrong,and that the law IS Constitutional.
    This administration is SO corrupt, even moreso than Nixon ever DARED to be. Why isn’t anyone raising a fuss, and starting an internal investigation to get ALL the crooks out of office? I don’t understand.

  • eddy james

    ?Screw the ACLU! how in the hell do they come up with enforcing the law on illegal immigration violates the freedom of speech amendment? They have got to be making this crap up as they go along.The ACLU and the illegals violate my rights to the pursuit of happiness. Because every time I read about how the ACLU is screwing the American public by supporting illegals and or criminals over the rest of us really pisses me off. I spend way to much time thinking about what I would like to watch be done to these anti-civil liberties asses. And it wouldn’t be PG-13 for sure! It really gets the imagination working overtime. It would make a good movie, “Texas chainsaw massacre” would look like “mother Goose.”

  • Lorna

    Omar Jadwat, staff attorney with the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project, is not doing his job. He is standing on the side of those who’s “rights” he claims to protect while ignoring the rights of those he should be working to protect.

    Immigrants come to this country to participate in the opportunities we have to offer. They seek a better life. No matter what anyone may tell you to the contrary, the Supreme law of this land is the law that protects the individual. In this country, if you have the courage to face adversity and you do the right things in life, you have the freedom to thrive. You can lift yourself up and support a family, you can speak the truth without retribution, and no matter where you live within our borders you know that the federal government has been mandated to guarantee your safety.

    US Constitution: Article. IV. – Section. 4.
    · The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

    Basically this clause says that in America you will be kept safe and you get choose those persons who will have the responsibility to make sure you are. This draws immigrants to seek this protection as the live their individual lives. Those immigrants who truly have the quest for opportunity at heart, are going to make sure they are not going to be sent back, they are going to follow the laws of the country they seek to be a part of and strive to be a productive member of that society.

    Millions of American citizens have done just that and millions of others have given their word to live by our laws and are proud to be given the opportunity to live a safe and self determined life among the citizens of this country. These are the immigrants whose rights we must protect, as part of protecting the country in which they live. They, like all who dedicate their lives to the laws of this country, have a right to protection from those who cross borders with ulterior motives. They have a right to feel secure in the country they have chosen as their home and they have the guarantee that the government will ensure that security. The only way to ensure that those with ulterior motives do not enter our country is to check into those you are letting in. To make sure that immigrants are not continually subject to a background check, they are given papers. Those papers are the pride and joy of those who truly wish to wish to live in liberty. They show them with the pride if a teen that has just earned his driver’s license.

    Just like that driver’s license, it is a right of passage. It is a symbol of what you have achieved by doing what was required. It is proof that you have been accepted into a life of possibility. To both that teen and to the immigrant holding his papers, it is the possibility of getting to where he wants to go, without reliance on others. Both the teen and the immigrant will be asked to show those documents throughout his life. It is not always because you did something wrong, often they will be asked for those documents to ensure that you actually have the privilege of doing what you’re doing or being where you are. When that teen reaches the age of 21 he is going to be asked to prove his privilege of to go to a nightclub and there will be someone at the door checking his ID. And if that person is doing his job, he must ask everyone who he suspects to be under age to produce it. The newly anointed adult is more than willing to say, “Yes I can”; and the 25 year old who still looks 18, although a little annoyed, realizes the fact that they have a right to be there and pulls out his ID for the same reason. The result? They are welcomed and allowed to go about their business. If the nightclub does not have a bouncer, if alcohol is served to minors and the establishment looks the other way, that establishment is breaking the law. Authorities will show up, ask for ID’s to be produced. Those who are of age will be told you are free to go, those without ID will be held until ID can be produced, many of them making that dreaded phone call home. The doors of the establishment will then be closed until the Authorities are satisfied that the law will be followed.

    It is unfortunate that the Authorities of this nation are not willing to take the steps necessary to set things straight, nor do they recognize the efforts of those who are willing to do so. The rule of law has been established by our Constitution for our protection. Protection from the danger of those with ulterior motives is a right the Federal Government “shall” guarantee. (FYI – In legal terms, “shall” basically means no excuses.)

    We live in a world of ulterior motives and now more than ever we need action to provide our protection. Who are “we”? We are the citizens of this country AND the immigrants who have chosen to live under the laws of this country. It is the Federal government’s job to end our subjection to violence and invasion. The Constitutional clause does not specify what type of invasion they are responsible for protecting us from. There is a good reason for that. We have the right to be protected from the invasion of any military, foreign entity, crime ring, drug cartel or any other group that crosses our border with intent to break the law. And we have the right to ensure that those who we allow to enter are not here to do so.

    Our Constitution was instituted to provide unity between the several United States. If one of our fellow states and those who rightfully call that state home are in danger of invasion by any of the entities I mentioned above, it is up to the others to stand with them as they plea for relief from our Federal Government. Also, if that state does not receive the protection they are guaranteed, and the delay has placed their people in danger, they have a right to act to do so themselves.

    US Constitution: Article. I. – Section. 10. – Paragraph 3
    · No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay. (bold type added by this writer)

    Arizona has been the site of border violence for several years. They have repeatedly sought relief. The residents of Arizona are subject to murder on their own property. Phoenix residents are subject to more kidnappings within their neighborhoods than anywhere else in the world and are subject to a level of crime that is not acceptable to any civilized society. The delays of the Federal Government are resulting in the loss of life, property and the right to feel secure in your home and the land in which that home is located.

    The Governor of Arizona has the Constitutional right to, without delay, call troops into action to protect Arizona’s people. Maybe we should commend her for her thoughtful action of calling up law enforcement rather than the Arizona National Guard, and, (as evidenced by the restriction of document requests from only those who are being questioned for a suspected violation of law other than immigration law) her focus on those that are perpetrating the violence.

    • Oh Please…

      Bravo…very well said!!

  • psutopgun

    If these nut job organizations sue AZ then they better sue the federal government and all law enforcement agencies around the country. AZ mirrors the federal immigration law. Any stop that is made by law enforcement is unconstitutional if what these idiots say is true. AZ is protecting it’s citizens and have our full support. That’s more than I can say for the federal government and Obama. Obama and the democrats in congress have trashed the American people again siding with Mexico. If you check out Mexico immigration law you will find it very interesting reading and they do discriminate. They enforce their law. Obama, his administration and the democrats are making a political football out of our security and Americans are not pleased. What is wrong with this picture when the president trashes his on people not only with Mexico but COMMUNIST CHINA. That my friends is one bad a** tyrannical government WE HAVE.

  • goat head on

    here is the name i been calling our fearfull dog pookie want to be not my pres. OBAMA BIN LADEN. This piece of shyt doesnt need bombs or planes. he has all his terrorist followers, ie pelosi, biden, clinton, etc. as was said earlier, divide and conquer. as his wife said, you dont have to love a country to run it(into the ground). impeachment is not good enough, what really scares the pookie out of me is if he does get impeached ,look whats going to take his place. we need everyone out and put some real country loving people in there that really cares about you and me and not the almighty buck or whos ass they can kiss or bow to. the goat has spoken.

  • Ave Migrante

    I am a legal immigrant in the State of Arizona. I have never been harassed by the State’s Police or any official because of the color of my skin, eyes, or accent. I think that to state that SB1070 opens the door to racial profiling is unfair to the police officers: When I have approached some of them in seek of help, they have always treated me with more respect and consideration than I could expect from police officers in my own country and certainly with more respect than I have been treated in my country’s consulate.

    I don’t see any offense to the American Constitution in the fact that Police officers should confirm the legal residence of someone that has been contacted for any other lawful reason. Will the American citizens accept them to be accused of any crime and taken before a court of law without appropriate identification?

    In contrast: On what constitutional grounds can the City Council of any city in the United States vote a boycott against a fellow State of the Union? Advocating in favor of the creation of a class of formal “citizens” with no allegiance whatsoever to the United States but the need of getting a job and benefits, just because they are “poor”, is not only “unamerican” but a serious treacherous offense against the People of the United States and the Constitution: because it prepares the ground for them to challenge the sovereignty of the United States and, therefore, for the dissolution of the American Union, as it is already happening in cities of California, Arizona, Nuevo Mexico, and Texas.

    I think it is the time for Republicans and Democrats to recognize each other as American Citizens, with a paramount common interest, which is to preserve this country for generations to come. The southern border needs to be sealed swiftly and unlawful residents, moreover those that have engaged themselves in criminal activities, need to be prosecuted and/or deported as law might require in each case.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Ave Migrante,
      Welcome neighbor! I hope you have a good life here as a legal citizen!!!

    • Jana

      Ave Migrante,
      Great post and welcome to the United States. You are an asset to this country.

    • JC

      Glad you made it. Thanks for being here.

  • KATHLEEN

    BO, Pelosi & Reid are ALREADY dictacting to us what “We the People” do not want. BO is supposed to be our president but continues to DICTATE . . . . I smell REVOLUTION in the air!

    • coal miner
      • JeffH

        DO NOT CLICK THE LINK—–possible virus involved

        • coal miner

          JeffH,

          You full of Sh**t.You rightwingers are nuts.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            That from the biggest bulls.itter on this link!! coal scabber himself!!!

          • JC

            Don’t click on anything these socialist monsters post.

      • Ave Migrante

        That’s all what I read from people that disagrees with Arizona’s law: insulting remarks and disqualifications, but I find no reasons. Why is it so hard to understand that being poor and needy does not prepare an individual for citizenship? Why is it so hard to understand that economic reasons are not enough to settle this sort of issues? A democratic society has values, institutions and traditions to preserve, because People’s freedoms can be lost otherwise! Do you really mean that you want representatives that do not care about protecting your own country? You don’t need to go to faraway from the United States to have what you want.

        Here is the oath that legal immigrants take when they are naturalized citizens of the United States:

        * I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;

        * that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

        * that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

        * that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;

        * that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law;

        * that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and

        * that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, so help me God.

        What do you want to have? People taking that oath just telling you what you want to hear? I am proud to have a daughter serving in the United States Army, who might be deployed to the Afghan War soon. I pray to God to let me see her coming back home safe. If she doesn’t come back, if all I get is a corpse and a flag, I hope she won’t be serving there for nothing.

  • Jim K.

    It seems Obama, Polosi, Reid, Holder, & other Dem socialist radicals are rushing to destroy America as we know it at fast as they can before their elections take place. Free American is worth fighting for so keep encouraging the Tea Party movement and all other Democrats, Republicans and Independents who want a free country not controlled by Socialist-Markism Government to vote these dictators out. Every free American must get out and vote these socialists politicians out on Nov. 7th, ’10 and the rest out Nov. 7th ’12. We want our free country back!!!!!

  • Frank Lewis

    What does ACLU think they are doing. For one thing, did you know, that OUR federal government PAYS ACLU to make these frivoulus law suits. Oh yeah, it’s just another good idea gone crazy. The intent was for a good reason that turned to sh#t. Proving legal assistance to those individuals who can’t afford to obtain consul.

    A – American
    C – Communist
    L – Legal
    U – Union

    In any words – Anti American in every sense.

  • John Rickell

    The First Ammendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    What the heck are we the people violating? Nothing I can see. But let that new apointee in the supreme court and they will change the first ammendment for sure.

  • Alicia

    Since when are illegal aliens protected under our First Amendment. The US Constitution was created to protect US citizens, illegal aliens are NOT US citizens! If they want rights under the US Constitution, they can apply for legal citizenship. Until then, the only rights they have are in their own country. Otherwise their just law breakers in this country.

    • Dean

      Amen!

      • James R

        Well stated Alicia

  • Tony

    And when these civil rights groups lose in court the State of Arizona needs to march them right back into court to recoup their legal fees, counter sue for frivolous law suit and seek punitive damages for their attempts to harbor / assist criminals….

    • JC

      Absolutely right. Sue them out of existence.
      The ACLU is nothing more than a luanch point for all things socialist and anti-American. You want civil rights? Let’s put the responsibility for that where it should be… in Courts of Justice.

  • calhar

    Arizona is being to easy on their critics.They are entirely within their rights to protect themselves.If somebody critized me i would tell them in no uncertain words where to go.There are to many social do gooders in this country trying to determine whats best for everybody.Most of the emotional cripples don’t know if S**t rolls down hill.

  • airangel

    Janet Napolitano just announced she will NOT process any illegal immigrants that Arizona serves up! This bunch of anti-American individuals need to be de-throned! Somehow we need to make them resign (Obama, Holder, Napolitano, Reid, Pelosi, Axlerod and Rahm)…oh and Clinton…anyone against their own State and citizens is NOT for America and should be brought up on Treason!…Good news..so far 17 states are planning to adopt Arizona’s Law…I think if we can do this and get more states on board…we can force the issue and have a majority to be reckoned with and show these arrogant parties that we’re not going to take it! Deal or the States will!

    • JC

      Napolitano = Globalist Puppet, ergo: UN-American

  • Mstockton

    Is this guy racist? A counsel for just Mexicans? There would be less crime when they leave.

    Victor Viramontes, senior national counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), who stated that the law is “discriminatory” and “pushes Arizona into a spiral of fear, increased crime and costly litigation.”

    • JC

      Message to Victor…no litigation costs at all…just get the hell out. Cheap at twice the cost.

  • chuck b

    HB 1388 PASSED

    You just spent $20,000,000 to move members/supporters of Hamas, a
    terrorist organization, to the United States ; housing, food, the whole
    enchilada.

    HB 1388 PASSED

    Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U.S. needs to know….

    Something happened… H.R. 1388 was passed, behind our backs.
    You may want to read about it… It wasn’t mentioned on the news… just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.

    Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA . This is the news that didn’t make the headlines…

    By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in “migration assistance” to the Palestinian refugees and “conflict victims” in Gaza .

    The “presidential determination,” which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States , was signed and appears in the Federal Register.

    Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.

    Now we learn that he is allowing thousands of Palestinian refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.

    These important, and insightful, issues are being “lost” in the blinding bail-outs and “stimulation” packages.

    Doubtful?

    To verify this for yourself: http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488

    PLEASE PASS THIS ON… AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW

    WE are losing this country at a rapid pace

    • Wolverines

      That’s it! I’M DONE PAYING TAXES FOR THIS CRAP! That’s all we need is a bunch of Palestinian terrorists to go along with the 15 to 20 million ILLEGAL ALIENS from Mexico. I’m giving my 2 weeks notice Monday. I no longer wish to contribute my tax money to these idiots. I don’t need the 70% of my paycheck that this corrupt government ALLOWS me to keep, not if they are going to waste the 30% that I give them on a bunch of Palestinian terrorists! F… them!

    • JC

      Wonderful…just Wonderful! 15 to 20 million more people who’s religion advocates the death of all of us “infidels”.
      And all this under the Kenyan Usurper.
      Throw in Hillary’s UN Treaty on small arms and all I can say is stock on everything you need folks, and get organized.
      When the money crashes, and it will we had better be able to take the reins of the country and steer it the right way.

  • D D

    Geri—-yes as much as obamba is. D Osmun. this would do it J C right you are . its already went to far sad to say get your pitchfork & head for the castle . we have a big problem with the united nations armys

  • http://PersonalLiberyDigest Amy

    Good for Arizona!
    I go to work at 4:30 am, I drive a sports car.
    I get stopped by the Sheriffs Dept at least once a month and asked to show ID.
    I have been told by other police agencies that MY CAR is being profiled, because at that hour of the morning the only people on the road usually are drunks and drug dealers. Why should I be asked to show ID and not illegals?
    Oh I am 76 years old and a law abiding citizen. You are correct, you want to live in this country? Do it Legally and live by OUR LAWS, otheerwise go back to Mexico and Calderon. Let him provide you your jobs. God Bless Arizona.

    • JLC

      Hi Amy — You were probably also asked if you were armed. About 30 years ago, I lived and worked in Phoenix. My job required me to make early morning deliveries. Several times, I was stopped by Phoenix PD
      and the first question asked was “Are you armed?” (As a matter of fact, I was) Then I was asked for my Driver’s License. I was also asked why I was out so early in the morning,—–”Oh, I see. You’re delivering. Have a nice day.” God Bless Arizona!

  • Carol

    There is no such thing as illegal immigration! That is an oxymoron. Illegal aliens are NOT immigrants! Immigration is a LEGAL process. Many others cross the AZ/Mexico border besides Mexicans. They enter our USA from countries all over the world. I am SO PROUD of our Gov Jan Brewer! The law she signed for AZ is less strict than the matching, but unenforced, Federal law! It only gives our local officers the right to enforce what is already on the Federal books and is not being enforced! AZ SB 1070 goes WAY out of its way to be more than fair, to not allow ANY racial profiling. It allows officers to arrest people who emply illegals. Once in force, July 29th if not impeded, it should discourage crossings here. Our AZ border is where most illegals cross to go all throughout the USA. 18% of the people in our jails and prisons in AZ are illegal aliens, many who have been here, in our jails and prisons, over and over again. We have 4,000 a day cross our border. That is astronomical! WE ARE NOT RACISTS!! We are supporting them. We are broke. We feed the illegals here, we give them housing, health care. We cannot afford to continue this system. I would think the entire country would be grateful for our desire to stop the flow. No one mentions that this law will provide greater safety to the illegals, too. Many die in the desert daily. Many others are housed in houses, 40 to a house, in Phoenix, with ransom demands sent to the relatives, and if the ransom is not paid, they are murdered. If we make it less inviting to cross our border many Mexicans and people from OTHER countries, too, will be saved. Our money will not continue to leave the USA which it now does at an alarming rate! …and how about the terrorists who come accross? We KNOW terrorists come across too. Open your eyes people. This is not an unreasonable request. If the federal govt will protect our borders, fine! If not, then WE MUST! We have 1,950 miles of border in AZ. IT MUST BE PROTECTED, for the sake of the entire country!!! Wake up, Americans! We are loosing our GREAT COUNTRY. WE MUST SAVE IT, AND FAST! We MUST change Washington and get our country back, the USA our founding fathers gave their lives and fortunes for! Thanks. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

    • gordon

      These people are not even illegal aliens, they are in fact invaders. If you cross the Border of any Country without the express permission of that Country, You are an invader/tresspasser and we have the right to protect our land,it is a proven fact that it is expensive and useless to keep sending them back. We need to post a sign “Tresspassers will be shot on sight” if California does not like it let them tell us why and lets be truthfull.

  • http://pamperyourselfstore.com chuck catchpole

    I am for making Jan Brewer a candidate for President. She certainly has male parts that our President, congressman, and senators don’t have. She has my vote. I think all states should pass the same legislation. I have always said legal is legal and illegal is illegal no matter what it pertains to.

  • Carol in AZ

    Not “emply illegals”, but “employ illegals.” Thanks. Please give it some thought. READ THE BILL, AZ SB 1070. Go to http://www.SecuretheBorder.org to sign the petition.

  • Carol in AZ

    BTW: I agree with John Wayne. I don’t want to “Press 1 for English!”

    • libertytrain

      I believe you meant Robert Wayne, I’m pretty sure John Wayne never had to push 1 for English, etc.

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    What right does the president of mexico have coming here and condeming our laws? Mexico’s laws are much tougher than ours. Oops
    we don’t enforce our immigration laws.
    They sneak into this country, kill our citizens and this administration does nothing.
    We had an illegal immigrant from Guatamala in our state kill 2 people and a 3 year old boy. They still haven’t done anything with him.
    What the h**l is the matter with this government?

    • JC

      What? You don’t think we should all stand and salute Calderon?
      Well I guess I’d have to agree. He’s completely corrupt, so is his government and his stand on human rights is non existent.
      Hey it just hit me….Calderon and Obama…the names are interchangeable!

  • Carol in AZ

    Purpose of the Law:
    •To ensure “the cooperative enforcement of federal immigration laws throughout all of Arizona;”
    •To “make attrition through enforcement the public policy of all state and local government agencies in Arizona;” and
    •To “discourage and deter the unlawful entry and presence of aliens and economic activity by persons unlawfully present in the United States.”
    What the Law Requires:
    1.Cooperation of and assistance by state and local officials in the enforcement of federal immigration laws to “the full extent permitted by federal law.”
    •During the course of “any lawful stop, detention, or arrest” made by any state or local law enforcement officer “in the enforcement of any other law or ordinance,” if the officer determines that there is reasonable suspicion that the person is an illegal alien, “a reasonable attempt” shall be made to determine the immigration status of the person by verifying immigration status with the federal government pursuant to federal law (8 U.S.C. 1373(c)).
    ◦In determining whether reasonable suspicion that an individual is illegally present, the law specifically prohibits unconstitutional profiling based on “race, color, or national origin in implementing” this section of the law.
    ◦The law specifically states that an individual is presumed to be lawfully present if he or she provides a valid Arizona driver’s license or identification card, a valid form of tribal identification, or valid identification issued by any U.S. federal, state, or local entity that requires proof of legal presence as a requirement of issuance.
    ◦An individual’s immigration status may be determined ONLY by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Customs and Border Protection (CBP), or a law enforcement officer authorized by the federal government to make such a determination.
    •ICE or CBP must be notified any time an illegal alien is released from imprisonment or fined following conviction of a violation of state or local law.
    •No state agency, county, city, town or other political subdivision of Arizona may enact or enforce a sanctuary policy in violation of federal law (8 U.S.C. 1644).
    ◦No official or agency may be prohibited or restricted from communicating with federal authorities for the following official purposes:
    1.Determining eligibility for public benefits, services, or licenses;
    2.Verifying a claim of residence if such determination is required by law;
    3.Determining whether an alien is in compliance with federal registration requirements (8 U.S.C. 1302-1304).
    ◦Any legal resident of Arizona may file suit against any official or agency or the state or a political subdivision that enacts or enforces a sanctuary policy in violation of federal law. If the court finds a violation has occurred, the official or agency may be fined (the money would go to the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission Fund) and the person who brought the suit may be awarded court costs and reasonable attorney fees.
    2.Compliance with certain federal immigration laws at the state level.
    •Violation of the federal law requiring that all aliens over the age of 13 and present in the United States for 30 days or longer must register with the federal government (8 U.S.C. 1302) is now also a violation of Arizona law.
    •Violation of the federal law requiring all aliens over the age of 17 to carry their alien registration document with them at all times (8 U.S.C. 1304) is now also a violation of Arizona law.
    •Just as under federal law, violation of these new state laws is a misdemeanor carrying a penalty of no more than 30 days in jail.
    3.Day laborers and those who hire them to obey traffic laws and hiring laws.
    •It is a misdemeanor for a person seeking to pick up day laborers and transport them to a work site to block or impede the flow of traffic in order to pick up the workers.
    •It is a misdemeanor for day laborers to enter a motor vehicle to be transported to a work site if that motor vehicle blocks or impedes the flow of traffic to pick them up.
    •It is a misdemeanor for an illegal alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place, or perform work as an employee or independent contractor in Arizona.
    4.Compliance with Arizona’s E-Verify law.
    •Existing Arizona law requires every Arizona business to use E-Verify to verify the employment eligibility of every new hire. The new law requires all Arizona businesses to keep a record of such verification for the duration of the employee’s employment or for three years, whichever is longer.
    Download a full version of the Fact Sheet for Arizona’s new immigration enforcement law.

    Read the law, as amended, in its entirety.

  • Diane

    Do these people who are suing Arizonia realize that this law is merely repeating the Federal law? And since when do illegals have civil rights? They don’t. These people need to stop bucking their own country and start standing up for what’s right. They keep jobs from everyone, not just whites but every legal citizen. How can that be right?

  • tnmccoy

    I wish the long argument about what dictator was a socialist, communist, or NAZI would rest for now. It’s off topic and argued by people who don’t understand one another or the facts. As for this ACLU suit, it should be thrown out of court [but too many judges are Liberals with axes to grind] and the ACLU laughed into oblivion. Yes, relocate ACLU’s main office to a small border town and see how they like them apples. The Feds [led by the Imam Obama] have seen fit not to enforce established law. AZ simply tells it’s own police to do so. There’s no racism involved except in the cloudy minds of the Democrats and Liberals.

  • P. DAY

    The Federal Government main function is to (1) PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, (2) ENFORCE CONTRACTS, (3) PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
    Obama is violating the role of the Federal Government by going against his responsibility of protecting the American people regarding the loss of lives, injuries, criminal activity and undue costs associated with allowing illegal immigration to take place against the will of the American people. This could lead to impeachment proceeding of Obama for failure to act to protect the American People.

    • JC

      Absolutely correct. And if Obama were an American we would call him a traitor. But since he is not I guess we’ll just have to recognize him as an enemy of the United States.

  • Robin, Arcadia, IN

    I want to know why the ACLU is not going after miss Nancy? She wants the Catholic priests to preach from the pulpit that we need amnesty reform. What happened to separation of church and state? If that was Sarah Palin asking the priests to preach anything political from the pulpit, she would have been crucified. The ACLU picks and chooses what fits their agenda and what doesn’t. They are so biased and not much different from the main stream media. The ACLU is nothing but the long arm of the Democratic party! They will stand with the illegals and not uphold American law!

  • Jim

    A WORD TO THE WISE
    I noticed that a well known liberal (coal miner) has posted some links above for you to click on. I would be careful clicking on any links provided by well known liberals such as coal miner, american liberal, sidewinder, timr,(tim,Tim)<–all the same person) denniso, chaos factor, eddie47d, big bad john, or any of the rest of the known liberal posters.
    I clicked on one of the liberal links a month ago and got a bot or a virus that Norton anti-virus, and Spy Bot could not find or kill. It got into all the system drives, slowed my pc down to zero, and I had to completely wipe the hard drive & pc clean, and start over from scratch.

    • JC

      Thanks for the tip.
      READ THIS FOLKS.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

        I have gotten spyware on my computer from checking out information on leftest sites. I would run a scan on your computer any time you go to a liberal site.

    • Al Sieber

      Thanks Jim.

    • airangel

      Yes, thanks…I was going to click one of the links and then thought better of it based on their posts…I thought it might be some petty revenge…sounds like my instinct was correct

    • JeffH

      Jim, thanks…I think coal miner is the one to avoid the most…he’s a confessed satanist plain and simple…he admitted this several months ago. I’m only warning all that this guy is truly a nutcase, more-so than the usual liberal hacks…in the past I swear he spoke in tongues. Scary!

  • Antonio

    Jadwat can shove it up his twat!!! Violates the first Amendment rights?? Is that a joke?? The first Amendment has been violated since James Abams signed the sedition act!! ACLU is just now catching up or what?? What about violating my second Amendment rights??? What about the illgal passage of health care? what about food stamps? Did you people know that it is unconstitutional to use your tax dollars for all those programs??? What is ACLU doing about those??? They violate they constitution too. I think we the people should sue the white house for violating our constitutional rights. Demand that they stop all these programs! Demand that they abolish at least 50 of the unconstitutional taxes that we pay today! What about the federal reseve bank??? guess what people thats unconstitutional too!! Tell ACLU to sue them! Was ACLU educated in the public schools???

  • c lee

    Ive been on this site for a good while reading the post and posting replies. I am very concerned about whats going on in our country and every time I think Ive seen or heard it all this group in washington comes up with something a little dumber than the last. Our president- oh wait let me correct myself the so called president I say this because he still hasnt proven he is even qualified to be our president is busy bowing to communst leaders while our vice president speaker of the house and the congress and senate are busy giveing standing ovations to the president of mexico while he trashes one of our states for finally takeing a stand when its been made clear washington and the buof traitors there dont give a rats ass about what we the people want. So I guess my question is when do we reach a point of saturation? What is it going to take to get our country under control? I mean I dont see any improvements. I never thought I would be saying this but the good old U. S. A. is becomming unrecignizable. Our country is under attack.

    • JC

      c lee, we follow Arizona’s lead.
      Tighter control of illegal immigration.
      Wide open right to carry and recognition of the 2nd amendment.
      A requirement for Presidential candidates to prove their citizenship before being put on the state ballot.

      These are all a good start.

      I nominate Arizona as the most American state in the union and Jan Brewer for President.

      • Jana

        JC,

        Great post. Smiles :)

        • JC

          Glad you liked it Jana. :)
          And now a word from an Okie Cousin…

          OKLAHOMA MAY JUST BE THE PLACE TO LIVE!

          Oklahoma law HB 1330 passed, 37 to 9, had a few liberals in the mix, an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake.
          Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values…!

          Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. Hope we didn’t send any of them to your state. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

          Guess what…….. Oklahoma did it anyway.

          Recently we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegals to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it
          was unconstitutional. SB 1102

          Guess what…….. Oklahoma did it anyway.

          Several weeks ago, we passed a law HJR 1003, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas, Montana and Utah as the only states to do so. More states are likely to follow:
          Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolina’s, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Florida. Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.

          The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I’m sure that was a set back for the criminals (and Obamunistas). Liberals didn’t like it –

          But ….. Oklahoma did it anyway.

          Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL driver’s license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma, you must read and write English. Really simple.

          By the way, Obama does not like any of this.
          Guess what….who cares… Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

          And most Okies carry guns! Myself included!
          Is this a Great State or what!
          Long live the Okies and the USA!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JC,
            If I wasn’t about 4 months from paying off my house I might be real tempted to move. God Bless Oklahoma!!!

          • JC

            I’m in the same position Joe.

          • coal miner

            JoeH,

            Good lord Joe I had my house paid off twenty years ago,it is appraised at 750,000.I am glad you are paying your single wide off.When are you going to move it out of the trailer park.I admit you did little bit better than JeffH,he is still sponging off his friend.I hope he doesn’t run out food stamps.Oh my.

          • JC

            And a venomous good morning to you too coal scab.
            Glad you’re up and eating your ignorant flakes again this morning.
            Thanks again for demonstrating the animosity you Liberals have for people. Absolute poison.

          • Jana

            JC,
            I wouldn’t believe coal miner about the value of his house. Listen to what he says when he writes. He is just a embelishing here.

          • JeffH

            coal scabber…the truth can set you free should you ever choose it

          • Steve

            Hey Dung Miner;
            Isn’t it you liberals that are always accusing us “rich” conservatives, Constitutionalists, republicans, Libertarians, righties, etc of being the wealthy ones who are living in the palatial surroundings? My shack only cost 1/6th of what yours did? How do you rationalize this? You mistakenly think the conservative party is made up of rich people. It’s not! It is made up of hard working, tax paying, Constitution supporting, patriotic AMERICANS !!

            p.s. I have no idea how that real estate agent managed to wheedle $750,000.00 out of you for that dark, dank, abandoned coal mine you’re living in, but I would venture to say it was a lack of knowledge on your part, ha ha ha ;-)

          • JeffH

            JC, please forgive me for not responding sooner. Good for Oklahoma.
            Isn’t Gov. Henry a liberal Democrat? I know he vetoed the open carry legislation yet it is pretty easy to get your CCW if one is properly qualified. How is Henry as a governor? Just curious as I plan to leave California in the next few years and Oklahoma could be a viable option.

  • Raggs

    Well the sick bastard obama claims he knows…
    Apologize to mexico and gives them a steak dinner….
    What a poor excuse for your so called president…

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogger.com Stephen Russell

    Idiots, AZ law follows the Federal law, & judge will MUST Toss suit out.
    Then sue the civil rights groups, Life is a 2 way street.
    Countersue AZ on those groups.

  • http://gmail i41

    c lee, You hit the nail dead center, we have no qualified president or congress, all are of the frat boy, eleitist, college, over rducated lawyers. All are do nothings, but go to school for years, jump from one over paid government program, or “job” for some, they just srep into office with the eleit socialists always clearing a path for a political spot. Once a leech, alway a leech,lawyers are a pox on society and if you don’t think they aren’t, look at the difference in the number of pages in the Constitution and any congressional bill.Always writen to create more legal scabbles, not with clear directions or guidelines, but vague contrivousal statements. Which a;; lawyer and all democrats embrace.

  • Gary Wise

    What really needs to be done is put and end to anyone except the person actually affected (injured) by the law to file a lawsuit. The reason is simple. A minority group with funding can bring a lawsuit on behave of someone else that the majority do not agree with thus getting more clout than the minority should be allowed to have. This in turn causes a minority group to cause unnecessary expense and aggrivation tying up courts with suits that would not have been brought if the individual had to do it. The organization has no interest in this case as they are not the party aggrieved. Its akind to allowing someone else to sue for injuries you have suffered.

  • http://Yahoo.com Dennmc

    PLEASE… some get a copy of the actual Mexico Immigration Laws, translated to English (or crayon) and send copies to the ACLU, MALDEF, and any others that complain about the AZ Law. In Mexico they do not even need a reasonable suspicion. Driving, walking, sitting in a restaurant, etc. etc. if you l;ook like a “foriegner” they can and WILL demand your papers. If you don’t have, or “forgot at home”, you WILL get arrested and imprisoned. They are not even required to call you a Lawyer, or set a trial date, except at their own leisure time. So you could be in a Prison for months as “fresh meat”, because you left your papers in the Hotel room and were dining at an local restaurant.

    Can we send ACLU and MALDEF reps to Mexico to protest?? Only if they have their PAPERS !!!

  • chuck b

    the politicians have written so many laws and amendments to the laws they have the country in a mire of confusion, instead of obeying the original law they will write a new law and supercede the meaning of the old law to align with their current political opinion.
    the only way we can put a stop to this is change the congress entirely throw out the lawyers and let non partisan groups untangle this mess and start over. i have no faith in the current government, they are a group of subversive politicians with an agenda contrary to the conservative way of life and they are winning. when the so called pres. barry soetoro stands in front of a national audience and ridicules a state for enforcing a state law (one that he has not read)he not only degrades a law but, insults the american people

  • http://david_spitler@hotmail.com dave spitler

    To sue Arizona on first amendment issues? what is wrong with these so called minority groups? are they not getting enough of our tax dollars now? do they have any brains or do they just keep sitting on them? where is Amnesty Interntional? I always have heard that they are for peoples rights and yet they are not here to defend Amrican rights. All this time I have paid my taxes for these groups through pork projects and grants and yet have not gotten anything in return. let us, in november, vote these people out of office and start the long road back to the power of what we were given by GOD and our founding fathers who fought and died, to live in a country free from oppresion and tyranny

  • JustaPatriot38

    One thing we should all remember is that all these liberal legal groups make their living griping about things. Most of these suits are quite frivolous and wouldn’t get anywhere except for the liberal judges. One thing is certain, in this country we have the best judges money can buy. Our country would be much better served if our Universities would turn out engineers, mathematicians, and other productive people at at least the rate they turn out liberal lawyers and politicians. In light of the current political situation that we find our country in, there is little worth less than a career politician; look at California and Washington, D.C. November is coming. Wake up, America!

  • James R

    I think the ACLU should sue Arizona. Let them waste all the money they want, maybe they will go broke like the unions are. Issues like this allow real Americans a good look at who the leftist really are. They complain that the Arizona Law is unconstitutional even though all it does is let local officials enforce the current Federal Law. Then they have the nerve to say people that support the law are racist and are just being political. What a group of liars the leftist are. They really don’t want the current Federal Laws enforced, they have refused to enforce it, they have shown their hand. Now they are upset that Arizona is enforcing the law, and they are throwing a fit. Well all I can say is get use to it. This is still America, the land of the free and the home of the brave. The sleeping giant is awake finally, and the left does not like what they see.

  • Ronny Stevens

    What is it? People don’t know the difference between Legal and Illegal?
    What makes this Country think that they are violating somebody’s rights who are not Citizens of our Country?
    First of all, a person’s rights are violated, when they are legal Citizens of our Country, when they are not treated fairly. You know what I mean?
    We American’s are the one’s who are being discriminated against, as American Citizens.The first time an we break the law, they incriminate us, and take away all of our privacy rights. And making it practically impossible for us to get a job. Then turns the blind eye against illegal immigrants, who broke the law to come to the United States, and become undocumented workers of our Country. But take us bad, when we break the law.

  • Sherry Jones

    And what makes it so bad. That’s proof right there, that America has no intentions of doing anything about it. That is why illegal immigration is getting way out of hand, like it is. Illegal immigration is multiplying by the thousands a week. And Arizona is getting sick of it. Especially, by them being right down there by the borders. And them ole funky “wetbacks” flowing into their state like that. You see what I’m saying? And posing as a danger to their Citizens. Talking about they are taking jobs Americans won’t do. That’s a lie. Pretty soon, every Police Officer, Bus Driver, Trash Collector, cab driver, store attendants, etc. will be Spanish. And they are moving right up too Watch.
    One thing I like about the Supermarkets. They don’t take special interest with immigration, like them ole fast food restaurants do, i.e. McDonald’s etc. And when they do get hired. They also get fired very easily too.
    The only one’s you mostly see working in Supermarkets are mostly regular Black and White Americans. Them Supermarkets don’ play that immigration sh–!! I wish all of America was like this.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    WHAT DOES THE 1st AMENDMENT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS ISSUE???? Can’t the American Criminal/Communist Liberal Union get this right?? Of course, what can we expect from the ACLU?? They stress “freedom FROM religion”, but never “freedom OF religion”. They could care less if the 1st Amendment rights of Christians/Jews are in jeopardy. Nor do they seem to care about a Fairness Doctrine, or the liberal democraps’ greedy desire to silence talk radio, tea parties and others who oppose their warped leftwing agenda. All the ACLU seems to care about is the rights of Atheists, Criminals, Leftwingers and Un-americans!!!!

  • http://gmail i41

    Earl, I see there is a few states that have business successful business people running for office that don’t have degress and are not lawyers. The papers have letters in them knocking these canidates, but over all i think in Nov. there is going to be several surprises! I think that is why the status quo “leaders” have such a problem with tea parties. I can say that if there is a business person running for office that has some actual business sense and if they aren’t a grad of some college they get a few more points. Also a lawyer or government employee is off limit. As you probably guess I don’t get invited to either party but the tea party groups.

  • http://www.facebook.com Magee, Robert H.O.

    I am confused I am a US resident lived in Texas for the last 22 years. I love it here but what is confusing me is what do Americans want? Higher employment or low employment. The last two years low employment has made us cry and hate ourselves.

    Americans in my neighborhood from my country of origin do not want to come back to America. Those here in America do not want other people to migration to America and join them as their fore fathers did many years ago.

    Companies scared and afraid of the American attitudes are packing and heading for overseas destinations where they receive tax breaks and wages that are low. Why can we Americans decide that we want these companies here and therefore we need to renegotiate our cost of living change prices and lower our wages to be able to maintain employment in the USA?
    AZ has passed a low that is outright against immigrants in other words Arizona want to continue the old tradition of discrimination and a commitment to principles of exclusion and non integration. Now if you can imagine 12 million Hispanics in the United States came here illegally.

    The truth is they came searching for economic opportunity. Honestly the US economy wanted them and they came and do assist in the agricultural, construction and Housing industries. Their work is productive to United States. They accept low wages than citizens can accept.

    No nation can survive economic crisis if wages keep growing higher and higher because what that will do is to make American manufactured goods and services expensive to afford anymore.

    Our own actions are sending companies away. The Arizona action is one of those actions that is making companies shift jobs away from the United States. The Obama administration can give tax break to companies that keep jobs here but the Arizona action is not helping to that end.

    These companies expect to employ people who accept low wages if Americans do not want to accept low wages. Threatening even legal immigrants will mean that some start packing and leave to avoid the hustle of living scared of the police. Now American will have to be forced to accept low wages when all savings are gone. America may end up missing workers in some industries.
    Even if I went to school and got myself a degree. I have never been given a job that I could apply my education fully. Why because no American wants to compete with people of different nationalities. Okay that is fine.

    What you are forcing some of us to do is to head on back to our countries of origin and influence policies that allow Americans to work in our countries to be changed and ask Americans to move back to the United States.

    Most Americans working abroad are well educated Americans, as most come back they will be absorbed in jobs that some Americans will never take because they are not qualified to hold them. Still most will remain to take poor paying jobs. Companies would have left and the United States remains only a hostile place for companies.

    We must rethink our strategy to attract companies to bringing back employment. The Arizona law does not encourage it discourages and it is discriminatory. I could be wrong in my thoughts but we live in a world that is integrating not going back to the 4th century living.

    Another truth is that illegal immigration is part of US strategy to avail workers needed in this country. Now if Arizona thinks it is bad policy it needs to influence the Federal government to change the policy not undermine the Federal government. That is the way to go.

    • airangel

      You lie, read the Az law, it does nothing to discriminate. It targets Illegals, NOT Legals and guess what, the majority of the border states are Hispanic, including the law enforcement. I am sick to death of hearing this “racial” nonsense. It is a lie. Illegal immigrants are causing America to become an impoverished, dumb downed, broke and divided country and All Legal Americans (of all nationalities) who immigrated with respect and honor are sick of the low lifes screaming civilian rights when they have none (human rights yes, citizens rights – NO!)…the cheap labor claim doesn’t even begin to cover the Title 1 schools, overcrowded hospitals, trash, vandalism, prison, violence from gangs, free lunches, food stamps, housing, overcrowded prisons, etc…Thanks but no thanks, I would rather pay more for my fruits and veggies and products made in America and get the “tax break” from paying for all these Illegal, disrespectful, lawbreakers! As for me, I could care less if they profile since the majority of Legals and Illegals are Hispanic in Arizona, I know, I’ve been there and seen the trash of feces, sleeping bags, back packs and filth they leave.

      Within the past few years, leprosy, tuberculosis, hepatitis, Chagas disease and even malaria have jumped over our borders from Mexico on the backs of an average 10,000 illegal aliens daily, seven days a week and 365 days a year. Our borders are no safer today than before 9/11, and in fact, more dangerous

      • airangel

        So Calderon, clean up your act and take care of YOUR CITIZENS so they have basic care and clean living…Don’t preach at us…also go after all the Cartel including the Sinaloa Cartel which seems to have the deepest pockets. And when you confiscate the millions at these homes, spread the wealth to your people who suffer so bad they are willing to risk everything to come to USA…get your own house in order and stay out of ours until we can fix what is broken

        • Claire

          airangel—Good point.

      • Tone

        I like the way you put that. This is a very dumbfounded County, who are not only dealing with a bunch of disrespectful lawbreakers. (Who breaks the law, and demands Citizenship) But we also have a bunch of disrespectful lawmakers. Who are conniving the law in favor of people who breaks the law to get what they want.

    • Jana

      Magee, Robert,
      Your post is way off track. You are WRONG. This shows you have no comprehension of what you are talking about.
      Reread Airangels post and take it to heart.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      obert Magee
      If what you say is true, then how do you explain the high number of legal hispanics that agree with the new Arizona law??? You are so far off base, if I had the ball even I could throw you out!!!

    • 150fowl

      Reply to Magee,Robert H.O.
      It is easy to see you come from some country other than the U.
      S. All you can talk about is lower the wages. Having 3 classes of people, lower, middle, and upper is what makes the U.S. People like you do not know the difference. It is in your head to be poor with lower wages and let the upper class use you as a lower wage slave. And about jobs going overseas, buy American and they will come bck.

  • http://personalliberty rob

    ACLU be damned……”AMERICAN” Civil Liberties….So being a NON LEGAL Citizen of the US is granted ALL the rights of “LEGAL” US citizens. FREE healthcare, FREE education, Welfare benefits…..The illegals have more benefits than LEGALS….NOW the ACLU says these ILLEGALS rights are being violated?? GIVE ME A BREAK…..WAKE UP AMERICA….DISGUSTING….ARIZONA “ROCKS”

  • http://www.facebook.com Magee, Robert H.O.

    Reduction of immigrants will cause wages to grow in the United States. Look for solutions. Assume hypothetically all educated individuals or uneducated individuals with high school diploma accept a flat rate wage of $17 dollars an hour. Then use parks and benefits to make the differences. Stop immigration and absorb those who are here as citizens. Remove minimum standards of the wages because there will only be one standard. Executives need to lower their pay drastically to afford this flat rate.

    Now will that please those who are jealousy that they cannot get a well paying job because immigrants have taken good jobs even though already know that is not true? What will happen in that case many small companies will disappear because they will not afford paying employees. We must appreciate the difficult nature of the economy and do all we can to accommodate companies by giving them tax breaks.

  • http://gmail i41

    Magee, Robert, Americans aren’t against immigrants ,it is the illegal immigrants who come over here, break our laws, abuse our health care system, game the system with anchor babies and chain immigration crap laws. There is such a belief that illegals are taking jobs that now one else wants is pure BS. Require schools to teach their kids in Spanish, stuff it this is the USA, learn English or get the hel out! Businesses are leaving due to in part to the increase in taxes, restrictions on products by producted in the USA, permiting fees and just the BS wonks involved before any thing can be done. It all has come from one major party The National Socialist Democrat Party. The main groups of the party, unions, enviors, welfare rats, trial lawyers, NEA, and all the other fringe non productive screw ups of our society. EPA has overstepped come sense regs, it has restricted every we produce, do in life, or develop. Companies will move out like Polarsis just did to Mexico, even the made great profits, why the they are going to pay way jigher costs in healthcare, have more restrictions, such as instaed of entering records on electronic files, next year wehave to keep paper records. There is over 500 new lawyers that will going arond hassling employers to drag out past records and reveiw them, even if there has never been a complaint. You think IRS is growing and getting more invasive, just wait. As a small business owner when I got notified of that I laid off all 8 peple, and downsized, if I, my wife and children cann’t do it, we will not do it. Next year paper work will climb like hell and that means we must hire more people to just fill out paer work, what do you think healthcare will do. When I let my guys go, just about all supported Onumnut, I showed them the requirements that have climbed every year, and will have a run away next several years. I see some of them once in awhile, they went from $16 a hr to 7.50, elctions do have consquences. They are 20-30 yaer oldsm good learning curve, government programs cost taxpayers with no posative returns. Still like the hope and change? Flat wage sounds like a socialist plan, everyone gets paid the same the movation goes out the weindow hard workers tailing up thew lazy assed do nothings. We already have that by welfare programs, free health care, extended unemployment, lazier you are the more you get!

  • eddie47d

    Magee at 9:42; good post. Immigration problems have been around for decades. When the economy went sour 4yrs. ago the wave of immigrants slowed down and some returned.As Americans became unemployed so did the illegals. Many now have families here and have had to accept charity and public assistance because they cannot get unemployment. They are kind of trapped in their financial dilemma. We hire them and then fire them.So they become easy scapegoats for the race baiters and politicians. Our immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed but almost every comment here bashes Obama. When he is not the real problem. Too many years of poor border security and lack of proper documentation and American business hiring without that documentation. If all these immigrants were deported Americans MIGHT have jobs but because we are such a spoiled nation and demand high wages the companies that hire will just close down and move overseas. So the immigrant bashers may gain nothing and could cause deeper unemployment. These “illegals” do serve a useful purpose in America but it’s hard to see when so much change is going on. Obama needs to make sure that immigration reform deals with the old re-occuring problems and that’s where he can make a difference.

  • chuck b

    sddie47

    “our immigration system is broken and has to be fixed?” have you read the immigration laws? what has to be fixed except obey and enforce the current law on the books. the past admin have been wrong in not enforcing the law, but, it does not give this admin a pass when it refuses to engage the law. barry is even worse by ridiculing the people trying to use our current laws. barry is interested in one thing “votes” and this is what comprehensive reform is all about, they haven’t been able to put it on paper where the public will swallow it. we do not need another thirty million illegals made citizens. send them back to where they came from. if they want to apply for citizenship from that point fine. we can issue permits for needed workers not citizenship. if they stopped having kids every nine months, maybe they could support their family in their home country. why do you think countries like haiti live in poverty? they breed their selves away from the table and explode the population. a little work ethic would help in their case.

  • eddie47d

    Airangel; Magee did not lie only stated an opinion.There is a difference. The immigration system need to change for many reasons but not just because they are coming from Mexico. Arizona is taking a step in the right direction until the Federal government can get immigration reform passed. A problem that lingers becomes a bigger problem but don’t single out people who are just trying to make a living. Secure our borders and go after employers who hire anyone without proper documentation. Hopefully that will be in an immigration bill.The Arizona law does discriminate(some can’t be helped)but it’s been proven that a few racists have been behind this bill. I think it could have passed without their input. These fringe people on the right only twist the facts and add fuel to the fire. Some of the comments on this site are down right dangerous.(“well shoot them as they come across the border and throw their bodies back over the fence”).Almost every single immigrant who came to America has in some way trashed this country and spread diseases.Almost every immigrant initially lived in poverty and worked in crappy jobs. Eventually these legal and illegal immigrants became darn good citizens. Their communities kept them together and helped them achieve citizenship faster. We (you and me) keep “Mexicans” in constant limbo and force them to go back and forth to their home country or from job to job. Europeans and others weren’t sent back until citizenship was aquired they stayed and worked until the time came to become an American. So it is much harder for Mexicans to gain the same gift that our forfathers had.

  • eddie47d

    Chuck D.; Why were your ancestors allowed to stay and work and become citizens. You say anyone that comes from south of the border need not apply or only for temporary work. That’s why they don’t assimulate into our culture and “look like us”. If they are constantly kicked back to their country then they are going to keep that part of their life going when working here. Early immigrants (legal and illegal) had kids every nine months (that’s us whites).So you can throw all your underhanded “racial” remarks in the trash where they belong.Guess who doesn’t support abortion or family planning( maybe you could look in the mirror or check out your right wing politicians). Not much different in Haiti or Mexico. Their politicians (both countries are catholic)can’t go against the church so family planning is a sin. Thus the multitude of children.

  • DaveH

    “we are not a ’show me your papers’ country, nor one that believes in subjecting people to harassment, investigation and arrest simply because others may perceive them as foreign,” said Omar Jadwat, a staff attorney with the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project.

    Where is the ACLU on the Health Care Bill where they want to force us to buy Healthcare Insurance or face fines or jail? Talk about Harassment!

  • JeffH

    Only days before Mexican President Felipe Calderon demanded that the U.S. Congress enact a ban on semi-auto firearms in America to curb his country’s deadly drug cartels, NRA’s Wayne LaPierre revealed the truth about the root causes of out-of-control violence plaguing both countries.
    http://www.nraam.org/speech.html

  • chuck b

    sddie47

    my ancestors came here before the revolution. they did not have welfare or free medical care and they earned their own living. they had as many children as they wanted, most had farms and needed the extra hands. they did not receive welfare for their children as these illegal aliens are doing. most have no intentions of assimilating to this society and they have no allegiance to the u.s. maybe you should be a little more observant and listen to what the protestors are saying. the liberal solution to population control “abortion” “planned parenthood” no wonder we have such an immoral society. the roman catholic church is responsible for a lot of the unrest in the populations throughout so. america and for a lot of the illegal’s coming into the u.s. if you go back and read your history during the franco regime in spain he drove a lot of the communist priest out of spain and they settled in so. amer and central amer. they were responsible for a lot of the revolutions and people like ortega in niacaragua and the cardinal in los angeles “mahoney” he has covered up for lots of illegals in the los angeles area. haiti is a welfare state and the more you feed them the worse the problem becomes, but, we always have liberals like yourself who cater to self inflicted humanism and are ready to supply them with other peoples money.

  • Barnabas

    The answer to the illegal question is not to hire them or do business with anyone who does. The biggest motivation for the illegals in the US is employment and if we quit participating in the illegal act of empoying them then they will go home to mexico. To prove my point many of them have already gone home because the economy has turned down. Much to the disapointment of the progressives most of the illegals will be gone by election time. Arizona be warned-you are commiting an act of partriotism.

  • william neal

    The ACLU and all of its co conspirators should take their businesses and their residences and move south of the border. They seem bent on defending people who are in this country illegally. When an American citizen defends their property,the safety of their family or detains an illegal for trying to cross U.S. borders then the ACLU intervenes and says that the illegals have had their rights violated. This is a bunch of bull and the ACLU knows it but chooses to defend a bunch of illegals because our Socialist Federal Government refuses to enforce borders.This is America and if you want to come here then you had better do so in a leag way or plan on getting deported whether the ACLU likes it or not.

  • eddie47d

    chuckie, I gave my reasons why they don’t assimilate and you can choose to ignore them. Why should priests anywhere allow their countrymen and women to live in extreme poverty and remain silent? The wealthy can’t just reap their money and power and allow their workers to live in filth. The wealthy in Central America sowed the dicontent and kept the citizens from owning land and voting. We choose the wrong side in those conflicts and the people payed dearly. El Salvador 150,000 dead;Guatemala 300,000;Nicaragua 75,000; Honduras 150,000. Almost all peasants slaughtered with U.S. tax money. We have a terrible history of exploiting people and too many on the right call it patriotism. Sure we give billions for good causes but that doesn’t take away the grief of our wrongdoings. I know Stalin slaughtered millions,Turkey killed a million Armenians,Mugabe killed hundreds and Napolean disrupted Europe,ect. but that was their conscience and a very poor one at that. When it comes to “illegals” who are hired by U.S. corporations pay them a fair wage and treat them with dignity until it can be proven otherwise. I’ve seen too many legal Mexicans treated like crap and I know it’s not coming from the left.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

      I disagree with everything you said. I say send the illegals home and do not reward them for criminal activity by giving them good paying jobs. Central America and Mexico have their own problems and blaming the United States for those problems is just a form of mind control that the left uses to say ‘we are a victim, feel sorry for us, the U.S. is the bad guy, GIVE US SOME MONEY’.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bruce D.,
        The only reason that Calderone wants the ban on automatic weapons is the same reason that Hirohito(SP?)was against invading the U S!! He knows that every simple citizen has the right to own them and they would stand against any invading army!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND SAM COLT!!!!

  • chuck b

    sddie47

    so what do you expect the priest to do, preach revolution? and don’t you think the church would like some of this power you speak of?? maybe franco had a good reason to rid his country of these communist agitators. i’m not criticizing catholic people for their believe, just some of the activists priest. they have been a big part of the problem in latin countries. you blame the u.s. for all the killings in central amer. my my! i don’t suppose cuba and the soviet union had any part in supplying arms to the rebels. you should talk to some of the contras who fought the sandinistas. i did.

    you have such a hatred for the big corporations and want them to treat mexicans with more respect. the worse i have seen anybody treat illegal mex. workers was a private wealthy democrat from san francisco. he was about far left as lenin. so it does come from the left. we don’t need illegal aliens, send them back, if they want to come here let them do it legally like the law demands. if your heart bleeds for them, you are free to donate to your hearts content.

  • http://gmail i41

    edyee, your are spouting your asine stupidity again! They don’t assemalate because socialist democrats provide them and their spawn cradle to grave care, free housing,free food, free healthcare, free translators, free legal advice and last free taxpayer provided idoits like you, to hand out free American taxpayer’s money with a smile, you simple mind.All of my and other peoples ancestors started to assimalate as soon as their feet touch down on the USA. They paid their bills, provided for their families, grew their food and sold excess to cloth themselves. Everyone of you simple minded,freel good,marxist, rear vented head cases either don’t work, live on a union wage or pension, or a government jobs, or mama’s, as ignorant as you seem to be. People that pay taxes to the government get damn tired of providing everything to criminals, both the damn illegals and incasicrated population. They all live off of the taxpayer’s dime. Some of the time, I wonder, if you aare a member of the All Communist Liberals Union! Always trying to destroy the USA. Most of you numskulls try and say illegals pay taxes, they sure don’t, no federal ID. If puke brains like you, would have even a nano electric impulse between your pistol grip ears and a tranglelated region back of your fold back teeth, you might see why we are destroying the USA with a 140 languages being spoke in our schools, and federal mandated translators that have to be furnished. Now Onumnut wants to spend 20 billion more on schools, when we are broke on all the other programs. Cut out the extra teachers for traslators and aides for the kids who don’t want to go to school, and there would be more and better education being done. Also if American history was taught in every grade, there would not be liberal smurfs like you out in public through afares talking simple minded crap.

    • bruce callen

      your on a roll dont stop

  • http://gmail i41

    chuch b, start watching churches mission statements, I see the Catholic Church and ECLA Lutheran Branch and other churches have started using the “social justice” phrases for all people of the world. The muslim Prez is trying to push that socialist marxist veiws as a Christian, on the public. So I suppose, we should expects some more socialist angles to be coming out from the dems and their socialist buddies in media and the beltway.

  • chuck b

    141

    the catholic church and the united methodist have over the years tunneled millions illegals to the states, the los angeles archdiocese/cardinal mahoney is a hot bed of political activism since the vietnam war and fighting for illegal alien rights. the united meth. is another political hot bed of activism. this whole illegal thing could cause a real problem in our country. the congress is trying its best to get something on paper to allow amnesty for these people and like the health care bill will most likely be shoved down our throat. the allowance of citizenship for the illegals will almost guarantee barry another four years in 2012 and will change our politics forever. we are on the brink of being another 3rd world country. it looks like our dear republican wimps are back to what they do best, nothing!!

    • Michael Pratt

      Them Republicans are gonna make a quick come-back on them. And they are gonna squash this Immigration Reform, just like they did Geo. Bush’s Amnesty Reform in ’06. When they came out with a last minute vote, and turned it down.

  • Sherry Jones

    I’m hanging out with the tea baggers. Nothing can shut them up! You know what I’m saying Obama? Now don’t get me wrong, I do like what you did for America w/ healthcare. But to consider Illegal Immigration as if they are protected by the Constitution law, when they are not. Is going too far.Republicans do your job. And don’t let these wimps get away with it. I remember when you blocked George Bush’s attempt to legalize Immigration Reform. Do something you Republicans.
    Cause Arizona is getting sick and tired, of being sick and tired, of being sick and tired, of being sick and tired. With these millenium of illegals flowing across the border every single week. And how Washington is letting them get away with it. So Arizona is saying “enough is enough” and seeking to take care of business, and go it alone, and do something about it. You know what I’m saying? In a matter of fact, I’m just getting ready to go and get me a breakfast cup of tea, (tea bag style)You know what I’m saying? And it’s gonna taste good too, you know what I’m saying?
    And that’s the way I like it cause that’s the way it’s gotta be. You know what I’m saying?

  • coal miner

    Bob Livingston,

    There is nothing wrong with these websites.I got a right to paste my websites and Jeffh has no right to smear me,if he is too stupid to read and absorb the literature I pasted,thats his problem.Here is my request that all websites from the bloggers can’t be pasted on this thread,other than your own.This would be out of fairness.

    • Jana

      Yes coal miner, and it is oh so obvious that you know and understand about fair.
      You are sounding like a spoiled child tattle telling on JeffH. Wow you do take the cake.
      There is an old saying here, if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen.
      It seems you can dish it out but you can’t take it. How old did you say you were?

      • JeffH

        Jana…It’s so obvious that ignorance is more than skin deep with the coal scabber. I’m trying to recall if it was his talk about “The Joy of Satan” website or him talking about the voo doo doll with the pin stickng that spooked me about this nutcase. A real piece of work and he wants people to trust him….NOT in this lifetime!

      • coal miner

        Jana,

        I don’t belong to any religious group, whether its Satanic, Christian or Jewish.I view all religions opiates of the working people and have no useful function.My late grandmother said there will be more christians in hell than sinners.I ask her how come,she said because they are liars,crooks and hypocrites,you and Jeffh fit that to a tee.This shows how ignorant your friend Jeffh is.Satanist don’t use voodoo dolls,that belongs to the voodoo religion. Your friend Jeffh is not only a liar, he also likes to copy other people’s works and say they are his own.I have already got copies of these quotes and I am sending them out to their respected publishers,whether they take legal action or not,its their prerogative.You want to know my age?Dec 22,1930.

        • JeffH

          coal scabber…delusions abound in your empty scull…don’t burn the hot dogs and marshmallows or the soul of your feet…HAH! You betcha!

        • JeffH

          coal scabber says:”Your friend Jeffh is not only a liar, he also likes to copy other people’s works and say they are his own.”

          I say that statement by coal scabber is pure unadulterated fiction, an out and out lie! NEVER, NEVER have I tried to take credit for or say that a “quote” was my own, never! Normal people can figure that much out! Keep on trying coal scabber…all you’ve achieved is to discredit yourself.

        • Steve

          Dung Miner;
          You and all your liberal socialists buddies are always wanting us to post links to support our posts, but NOW you’re crying for Bob Livingston to ban all links! Make up your mind you HALF WIT!
          You can’t have it both ways! You remind me of that waffler “Slick Willie” Clinton, and his equally waffling wife Broom Hilda!
          Gawd…do you ever read what you write before you click the submit button??

    • JeffH

      “Jeffh has no right to smear me”…I seem to recall many of the extremely “personal” liberal lies by yourself and others attacking me…what goes around come around…I am speaking the truth unlike yourself…

  • 150fowl

    It Is very easy to see where our country is. Things have been getting worse very fast. Not only the man from Kenya but the Bush group and the Clinton group and the old Brush group (He stated on live tv a number of times, we are ready for a One WORLD GOV.}. When a President from a foriegn country stands in front of our congress and down grades our country and gets a standing ovation from our congress it should awaken you. Things are alot worse than most people realise. It goes a lot further than alcada and ilegal immigration. But they both need to be delt with severly. Through the coolade cups away. Arizona is doing the right thing easly. More states are going to join in I hope. The education system is winning.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    why don”t all of us United States citizens send the president and the representives in congress a letter stating we as a people are going to all stop working and stop paying taxes since you people in government are not upholding the constitution and not upholding the laws. the people here illegally are not paying most taxes but are receiving all kinds of benifits that us legal citizens can not get. but we have to be slaves to the illegals. we are going on strike and will go back to work and pay taxes again when you people who claim to represent us enforce our laws on immigration and not giving that which illegal alliens are not eligible for. when the government sees a real strike comming they should get the ball moving.

  • chuck b

    robert pgh pa

    great idea, however, you will be surprised how many people will not be bothered. only the very conservative ones would do this and they are outnumbered. i have no idea how we can ever get this country back to normalcy, the education system has for the last forty years based their education on racial issues and most people are very sensitive to the word. if you complain about anything the government does,you are a racist!, words are key to the media, it started with aparthied in so africa, the liberal media destroyed a prosperous nation with the word “aparthied” regardless of what the true meaning is. today so. africa is in financial ruin and their streets are about as safe to walk down as a mine field in afghanistan. this is what our country is going to look like if barry soetoro has his way (or should i say the people surrounding him). i can’t give barry that much brain credit. now we are hearing the word profile and racist used as a tool by the communist media, if we demand our borders of the u.s. be secured, we are racist, if we demand that the border patrol or police demand id from a person who happens to be black or brown we are profiling. in other words don’t do anything just let congress come up with their plan to give citizenship to millions of illegals through amnesty reform or lets just say allow them to vote, and they will vote for barry and barry will be elected again and again, he is the figure of a messiah to most of the so called minorities and those coming across the border are his pawns. the alternative is we stop this infiltration or capitulate. it could be we will have to revolt, who knows, i for one don’t want to see this country destroyed, but, if we don’t stop this congress from granting amnesty (citizenship)and removing the biggest part of these illegals, we can bid farewell to the u.s.

    • bruce callen

      July 4 2010 everyone take your long weekend in Arizona. FILL THEIR HOTELS, RESORTS, CAMPGROUNDS, If you have been forced out of your home by foreclosure or buyouts take your skills to Arizona. Trying to start a new business take it to Arizona. Support America and Arizona on this July 4th weekend, fill the highways with your vehicles. How about a 2010 Woodstock in Arizona? Bring your instruments and your voices. Legals only.

  • eddie47d

    Jeffy H; You did say you support torture (waterboarding). Coal Miner’s Web page told many tales of Christian abuse. Their bringing heathens around to their way of thinking thru torture. Maybe you didn’t read his complete post but let’s be fair with our tit for tat’s. Christians and Muslims both have sorrid histories and have abused their Words of God. I still will take my Christian faith over any other.

    • JeffH

      eddie, I suggest you mind your own business on this one…the history was made while you were away…coal scabber deserves exactly what he is getting and much more…starting with untrustworthy!

    • JeffH

      eddie47d, I said I supported waterboarding..yes…I never said I supported torture. Be careful where you go with it.

    • coal miner

      Eddie474

      Here some more about christianity myth.From the web.

      The “God” and the “Jesus” that Christians worship today are actually amalgams formed out of ancient pagan gods. The idea of a “virgin birth”, “burial in a rock tomb”, “resurrection after 3 days” and “eating of body and drinking of blood” had nothing to do with Jesus. All of the rituals in Christianity are completely man-made. Christianity is a snow ball that rolled over a dozen pagan religions. As the snowball grew, it freely attached pagan rituals in order to be more palatable to converts. You can find accounts like these in popular literature:

      “The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual – the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of “God-eating” – were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions.”

      “Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras – called the Son of God and the Light of the World – was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity’s weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans.”

      That lowlife nightcrawler would,t understand it.

  • eddie47d

    i41; Do you trash talk your momma the way you do everyone on this site? Sell that Missouri mule because it’s kicked you in the head one time to many.

  • http://aol.com John Pickett

    Advanced Communists Liberties Union or ACLU for short always have their greasy hands into things they have know ideas about. I think we can stand beside Gov. Brewer and send all those groups packing. All they do is suck our tax dollars from us and file frivolous law suits for naught. Will they ever learn yes one day!!! they to one by one will stand before God!!! Did you hear that. I pray you did!!!

  • http://gmail i41

    edyee you numnut, I haven’t had a living mother since I was 16, I leasrned early in life, if you have to be around idoits, try and educate them with history and facts, and if they still will not see the light, knock their lights out and sooner or later they will see the light, usually in a week or two. I judge by your statements, you have trouble taking critism and more trouble with facts and truth, proving your thoughs and lack of learning, even though I guess you went to public school systems. Since we don’t know, if you still live with mama or are a welfare rat? I would guess your mama or your pobation officer, tries to protect you from hurting yourself. Does your mama know about your facination with Sarah Palin pictures and ect? With your short fuse, and the areas of employment I have had over the years, your face would have probably tried to bruise a lot of fists or feet from the workers. Since your socialist democrat stupidity is so redundtant with your ignoramous statements! We all feel sorry about your slow learning curve in life.

  • Wayne Petry

    I, as a Texan, agree with Arizona. I also feel the same as others have stated. Fire a round or 20, If that doesn’t stop them. Round 21 will.

    I, and we in Texas are tired of the influx of trash draining our economy. It is time to start eradicating the trash…. starting in Washington…

  • 45caliber

    It is against our Constitution to ask for legal papers? Really? Does that mean that I don’t have to show my driver’s license the next time an officer stops me? I don’t have to show a SS# to get a new job?

    I think the ACLU is no longer worried about protecting civil liberties. They are more concerned about protecting PC.

  • eddie47d

    i41; Everytime you open your mouth an idiot walks out. You must have your repetitive trash on tape for you speak the same nonsense over and over and over again, (welfare?Sarah Palin?) At least try and say something important,but I kind of doubt it.

    • Cindy

      Yeah eddie47dud, as opposed to you who has never made a logical rational post in the many months that you’ve been gracing us with your presence. Go crawl back in your hole you little cockroach. We’re getting ready to fumigate this place.

  • Michael Pratt

    You’re getting ready to fumigate this place alright. With your Mexican garlic breath.

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  • knewborn

    Your whole site is racist! I find it a joke that you state what you won’t allow to be posted, when all you do is show racism, hate, and ignorance by allowing all of these negative comments, lies, and conspiracies to be posted about our President. This is just a place to knock the President! Oh that’s right “freedom of speech”, but only if it is against President Obama!

    • coal miner

      Knewborn,

      Right on.I do agree with you.You are a hundred persent correct.They are racist.

      • Jim H.

        Wow, A 5th grade girl and a senile ol coot agree. 2 wrong people.

      • Jim H.

        C.M., What percent of people spell the word percent, persent?

        • coal miner

          Jim H,
          Sorry about that,it is percent.Per cent meaans a cent.

  • Jim H.

    Knewborn is the right name for you, as soon as you grow up and get some real life experience you will realize these so called lies about YOUR president are really just truthful WARNINGS about what this guy really is about. If you READ the remarks you would not find any racism, just strong disagreement with the mans plans, views and socialist agenda. As far as your comment about ignorance, you are the one who seems ignorant about what the real situation in this country is.

  • Randall

    First the libs need to recognize the fact that the U.S. was founded as a republic of independent states with independent states rights.Secondly the law is based on existing federal law. What do you people expect Arizona to do with illegals flooding the border at the rate of 125,000 a month, ever since the terminology of amnesty was introduced the immigration has steadily increased. If you lived out there where crime is spilling over so fast not even superman could keep up you would have a different perspective.

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