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CIA destroyed interrogation evidence, say government lawyers

March 4, 2009 by  

Government lawyers have revealed that the CIA destroyed interrogation evidenceAs civil rights advocates fight for the release of the Bush administration documents related to the war on terrorism, a group of government lawyers has revealed the CIA has destroyed videotapes of interrogation proceedings.

They made the revelations in a letter to U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein from New York who issued an order in 2004 to preserve the material.

A lawyer for the ACLU was quoted by Bloomberg as saying that this demonstrates a "systematic attempt" to cover up the mistreatment of suspects.

In responding to the news, President Obama’s spokesman Robert Gibbs said that under the new leadership the agency will have "the tools they need to keep us safe, but do so in a way that also protects our values."

Meanwhile, the ACLU has scored a victory in its attempt to obtain the release of records documenting the Bush administration’s policies regarding detainees in the so-called "war on terror."

The group filed a petition to that effect with the Justice Department last January.

On Monday, the department released nine secret memos written by the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) that authorized some of the former administration’s national security policies. One of the memos was written by OLC lawyer John Yoo and argued the Fourth Amendment does not apply to military activities inside the United States, according to ACLU.

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  • Mike Coulter

    I couldn’t give a rats %&# how we obtain information, they started this and they can deal with the results of thier actions.

    People, remember 911 for Gods sake. The US was attacked, people died. US citizens were killed by a foreign entity. A US Govt. and US Military installation was attacked. There is no “So called war on terror” We are at war, deal with it. The enemy is not dead yet, the threat still exists, Our troops are still doing the job. 911 is worse than Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was at least an attack on a military installation by another Nation. 911 was an attack on civilians and military by a Religious Zealot.

    “Mistreatment of suspects” ENEMY COMBATANTS found on the battlefield engaged in combat with US soldiers representing no nation out of uniform. No Geneva Convention rights, and certainly no US Citizen rights.

    These people captured on battlefields are not soldiers of a Nation, they are enemy combatants, and therefore have no Geneva convention rights. There is an example of what they are in history. During WWII Germans were captured in the US whom had been dropped off to commit sabotage in the US. These men arrived via U-Boat. They were captured and shot.

    President Bush had the guts to go after these Terrorists where they live. The gloves came off The US said enough is enough. Pres. Clinton did not have the guts. The attack on The USS Cole was an act of war, not a criminal act.

    Mike

    • http://none Dorothy Berran

      Here, Here I with you why doesn’t the ACLU stick their nose somewhere else. They are a group of people who should leave this country if they do not like it. They are always complaining about something they should live in another country and see how they would get away with the stupidity of their work.

    • http://ralphwmcclellan@bellsouth.net ralph mcclellan

      the aclu and the democrats should tried for treson. god help us all

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/RoofMan81 Dan

      Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • Valerie

      Mike Coulter, I was so glad to see you write what you did. What is wrong with protecting our country? It is refreshing to see what everyone else has written up to this point also.

    • Mark

      Mike, you read the personal Liberty Digest, you are familiar with Bob Livingston.

      I ask you this, how do you know what you think you know?

      Defending our nation is top priority. But I can tell you this, the way in which those towers fell defies the laws of physics. After all we spent on security in the wake of the attacks, you would think somebody would have studied this. Its all BS. I’m not going to make accusations, I can only say the more you study the 911 attacks, the more they don’t add up. There should have been an official investigation. A real one.

      If radicals had crept into our government, instead of sitting in caves in East F*istan, would you necessarily know it? Do you expect them to announce themselves?

      Question what they feed you.
      Again, how do you know, what you think you know. Don’t bother responding to me, ask yourself.

      Mark

  • CARMELLA

    I THINK THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS SHOULD LOOK DEEPLY INTO PREVIOUS DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS AND SOME OF THESE DEMOCRAT LEADERS, SUCH AS LEAHY, REED, PELOSI, CLINTON, SCHUMER, FRANK, ETC. WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE ALWAYS HIDING WHAT THEY’VE DONE TO THIS COUNTRY AND AMERICANS. LET’S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. SUCH ARROGANCE FROM THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE!! IT’S SO OBVIOUS THEY ARE SO WEAK!! IF THEY TRY TO CONTINUE TO BRING BUSH & HIS ADMINISTRATION DOWN, PEOPLE SHOULD DEMONSTRATE IN FRONT OF THEIR OFFICES, EMAIL THEM & CALL THEM CONTINUOUSLY. NOW THEY WANT TO BRING UP THE FIRING OF THE LAWYERS “AGAIN”!! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THEM? EVERYTHING IS A DISTRACTION & DESTRUCTION OF PEOPLE’S LIVES. THEY ARE SO POWER HUNGRY, THEY DON’T CARE WHO THEY DESTROY…THEY FORGET THESE PEOPLE HAVE FAMILIES TOO. IT’S TIME TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE LIBERAL’S. DEMONSTRATE, MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD!!! SO SICK OF BEING POUNDED ON FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://- dorothy

      I believe what you just said is correct we should go after all those crooks in the demorcatric party all the names you mentioned above; they are only interested in getting reelected, so that they can get all their free perks. They do not care about the country at all. That’s not to say the Republicians are sweeky clean the american people should pay more attention to who they are voting for and not vote for someone because he is good looking etc. The rock star that we have doesn’t seem to know what he is doing now. He looks good and makes good speeches, but look what is happening to our economy and the country is going down the drain. All they do is blame everything on the prior administration, even the budget they claim is the prior adminstration, so what now you are in charge veto it but he wants to have something to blame on someone else. He and Schumer think we are stupid and do not care.

  • http://www.myspace.com/saveamericafromnobama Roofman

    One thing that people seam to forget, is we haven’t been attacked since, and that’s because we went after them. Now with this administration God Help Us!

  • Celeste Achterhof

    I agree…we have been safe and as much as I hate to say it, I seriously doubt we will continue to be safe for the next four years. Hopefully the Republicans will have learned their lessons and in the next two years the American voters will see how badly the Democrats have screwed them all and vote the other party back into power. At least that way there will be some checks to Obama’s attempt to turn this country to Socialism. Just look back to Jimmy Carter, multiply it by one thousand and you will see where this country is headed…God help us all.

  • Mark

    One thing you people seem to forget, as Mike pointed out, these people captured on battlefields are not soldiers of a Nation, they are enemy combatants. Its a simple reclassification, of what a POW is, for the express purpose of violating the “Spirit” of the Geneva convention. Technically legal, morally reprehensible.

    Listen, a lot of the fighting took place in small villages. When that occurs the village becomes the “battlefield.” If you live in that village and you are captured, then you are considered to be an enemy combatant captured on the battlefield. It does no one a single bit of good to imprison someone who is not guilty.
    John McCain himself said torture does not work. It produces unreliable results. The prisoners very often will say and do anything just to make the torture stop. John McCain would know.

    You people seem to forget what it means to be an American. We don’t have due process because there are too many liberals and they make us weak. We have due process because its the best way we have to separate the guilty from the innocent. Again it does no good at all to imprison an innocent person. By allowing due process, we are not being generous with American ideals, we are determining who is guilty and who is not. What went on under President Bush is just not American.

    Getting caught up in the stupid Democrat vs Republican nonsense is a waste of time. Like allowing yourselves to be distracted by flag burning issues, gay marriage, and other stupid topics meant to distract us. Both parties are corrupt. Neither party represents the American public.

    You people only know what you think you know, because the news media tells you. Clear Channel owns most major radio outlets. They are not liberal. So consider the source. I am not liberal.

    Quote: “Mistreatment of suspects” ENEMY COMBATANTS found on the battlefield engaged in combat with US soldiers representing no nation out of uniform. No Geneva Convention rights, and certainly no US Citizen rights. These people captured on battlefields are not soldiers of a Nation,…..The attack on The USS Cole was an act of war, not a criminal act.”

    How can we have it both ways? If they are not soldiers representing any nation, then how can they commit an act of war? Only nations can declare war. Acting as individuals, even when part of an organization, they are committing criminal acts. But even this is stupid. The Geneva Convention recognised that torture was inhumane. Finding creative ways around that violates the spirit of the convention. And is in my opinion unAmerican. Beat them, shoot them, kill them, but no torture. We lose our own souls if we sink to that.

    You people have drifted way off course, and I find that scarey.

    Mark

  • Mark

    Quote:The rock star that we have doesn’t seem to know what he is doing now. He looks good and makes good speeches, but look what is happening to our economy and the country is going down the drain. All they do is blame everything on the prior administration,” End Quote.

    Well lets see, the republicans held congress for 12 years, from 1994 – 2006. The republicans held the white house from 2001 – 2008. Thats a full 6 years with republican control of the White House and Congress. This economic mess has been brewing for a very long time. It did not just come about from 2006 to the present. Both parties are responsible.

    However, why were none of you talking about this until recently? The republicans under president Bush had 6 long years to make changes and head off this disaster. They did nothing. They had no opposition, as they controlled congress and the white house.

    I find it amusing that only after it blows up in our faces, the race is on to afix blame. Bob Livingston has been warning about this for decades.

    The blame goes to both parties, but considering the GROSS neglegence that went on from 2001 – 2006 under President Bush, republicans would do themselves a world of good to just keep quiet right now.

    Equally amusing is the critism of President Obama’s deficiet spending. Although I have doubts that his economic plan will work, I wonder where these same republicans were when the Bush team blew President Clinton’s balanced budget all to hell. Had we continued with the balanced budget that Clinton gave us, we would have been a lot better off right now. Like Clinton or hate him, you cannot disagree that the former balanced budget was a good thing.
    There was a lot of gross mismanagement under President Bush.
    My advise, focus on, and support those who want to fix the problem, guys like Ron Paul. Self deception never helped anyone.

    • Merritt

      “Well lets see, the republicans held congress for 12 years, from 1994 – 2006. The republicans held the white house from 2001 – 2008. Thats a full 6 years with republican control of the White House and Congress. This economic mess has been brewing for a very long time. It did not just come about from 2006 to the present. ”

      I certainly don’t defend everything that all Republican administrations have done but a narrow majority in congress does not equate to “control” We have many vacancies in the judiciary (leading to clogged courts and delayed justice for many) because of blockages by Democrats based not on poor qualifications (the ABA approved all appointees) but on ideology – an invalid basis for the screening committee. They had the power and used it – destructively.

      “Equally amusing is the critism of President Obama’s deficiet spending. Although I have doubts that his economic plan will work, I wonder where these same republicans were when the Bush team blew President Clinton’s balanced budget all to hell.”
      Even before Clinton took office the 1st time the economy under Bush #1 was improving; even the liberal newspapers reported it and attributed it to Clinton tho that couldn’t possibly be since none of his policies could have been implemented. Moreover, there are time delays between policy changes and the effects (e.g. roots to fruits parable of Jesus). And what did you expect to happen to the economy when 9/11 happened, a n economic boom? And Katrina couldn’t have had a notable effect, could it? Remember where mayor Nagan was during the gully washing of New Orleans? AWAY in a hotel, not on the scene to help.

  • Gene

    Bush did a lot of things wrong and he is responsible for the Republican losses in Congress.
    However thinking we should turn over CIA info to the ACLU is unthinkable.
    How come Obama doesn’t have to produce his birth certificate to prove his citizenship. It is apalling and a slap in the face to the American people.
    Most of whom couldn’t get a drivers license without a legitimate birth certificate .
    Not producing it should remove him from Office.

  • sabreen

    i think the Bush Administration has something to with the missing reports.
    Carmella i do not think the democraticsare hiding nothing . the republicans are the ones trying to hide something. for example, while pres. bush was elected for the first times he was elected how come when we were hit in 9/11why did bush say go on shopping when we could have dealt w/ the poeple who did this. yes i mean terrorist and how come he never assosiated anyone from democrats about going to war. and how come when russia went to war w/ middle east they went through 13 yrs of depression b/c they wanted oil and yet we are making the same mistake and now look where we are .

  • sabreen

    Gene
    that is wrong it is mccain who does not have his birth certificate i think you should look that up.

  • Mark

    Sabreen,
    Please don’t pick on poor old John McCain. McCain is so old, birth certificates were not invented yet. Can you imagine that poor old man trying to lug around the stone tablet that his birth was recorded on just to prove he is who who says he is? Come on.

    But seriously, Don’t believe everything you hear. Remember the email campaign during the election that said Obama was a closet Muslim? Then the next email I would get proclaimed Obama was a racist Christian. Seriously, you cannot be both. They also said Obama never placed his hand on the Holy Bible. I saw him do it when he was sworn into office. He didn’t have a problem with it.

    But Gene, most importantly, if the CIA committed no wrongdoing, then why in the world would they destroy evidence? Think about it. A district Judge 5 years ago even ordered them to preserve the evidence. They destroyed it anyway. Now who ever gave the order to do that has broken a whole string of federal laws.
    You are not concerned that there are those in government who feel they are above the law? That doesn’t bother you?
    It should. Because its the major problem with our government.

  • Mark

    Quote: Even before Clinton took office the 1st time the economy under Bush #1 was improving; even the liberal newspapers reported it and attributed it to Clinton tho that couldn’t possibly be since none of his policies could have been implemented. Moreover, there are time delays between policy changes and the effects (e.g. roots to fruits parable of Jesus). And what did you expect to happen to the economy when 9/11 happened, a n economic boom? And Katrina couldn’t have had a notable effect, could it? Remember where mayor Nagan was during the gully washing of New Orleans? AWAY in a hotel, not on the scene to help.

    Merrit, you are right, the economy was improving under Bush #1 shortly before he left office. I remember him saying, “we have 3% growth, thats real growth.” It was true.
    I do not long for the days of the unhealthy Clinton boom years of the 90′s. It was fueled by internet optimism, {not bad} and easy money, due to the booming real estate market, which was caused by the lowering to lending standards to create affordable housing. Both parties have followed affordable housing policies, ie, throwing out common sense when lending.
    I don’t quite know why you assume I think the 90′s economy was a good thing, and that it was all Bill Clinton. It sounds to me like you have had this arguement before, but with other people. Don’t assume anything about me.

    This mess we are in was primarily caused by the housing crash. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back. 8 trillion in person wealth was lost during the stock market crash. 911 cost us a lot at a time when we could not afford it. Then the collosial waste of money that was the occupation of Iraq, that only resulted in strengthening Iran, and turning it into a regional superpower. Nice, because Iran was the real enemy since the beginning of all this. Since 1979 when they took the hostages. Saddam held them in check. Iraq was a total waste of money and effort. Too bad too, our soldiers did a real fine job with the impossible situation they were put into. Bringing freedom to ingrates. And yes hurrican Katrina did not help our plight at all. The way the bush administration handled that was totally discraceful. Mayor Nagan was even worse. People need to be more self sufficient yes, you cannot rely on the government, true. So then disband FEMA. Because if we have to pay for it, and we cannot rely on them, then they are useless.
    Don’t expect me to defend Nagan….
    Listen our government does threat assessments all the time. More money is tied up in real estate than in anything else. Why didn’t someone conduct an assessment and ask what would happen if Fannie tanked? If the real estate market crashed? These are not idle questions. I watched the real estate market climb from the mid 90′s till the crash. I waited for years for it to crash, so I could buy a house with out getting stuck by over paying. I saw it coming. We ended up building our own instead. But I saw it coming. Why could those in Washington not see it too? They should have, and they should have pressured those democrats that held key positions to shape up. They could have televised it before the nation.
    Bottom line, they failed us. Both parties. But republicans cannot excape responsibility, not by a long shot. They blew it, face it.
    Do not assume I am a liberal simply because I am criticle of the republicans. I am a conservative leaning independent. I will vote for the man, not the party. Its getting very hard to find leaders worth voting for.
    Chris Dodd, has to go. He put special interest before national interest. And he did it in a time of crisis. Expect more treasonous nonsense from the democrats in the future.

  • Mark

    Oh and Merrit, Clinton did not get the budget balanced until late in his second term. So Clinton does get the credit for balancing the budget, not Bush #1. A booming economy does not equate with a balanced budget. The economy boomed under Reagan, and so did our deficiets.

  • Duane

    I am fed up with this, how you obtain information crap . It is not the general publics business, or congress’s or the Senate, how this is done. Waterboarding etc, has gotten a rediculous amount of attention. As ex-military (USNavy, we were tyrained as to the consequences. We, unlike the other side ..do not chop of heads. Extracting information from these same people, is the way you save the country. Why these congressional idiots want to know, then publicize this crap is an abomanation. Let those people concerned ,go about their business with out fear of legal punishmnet. Why has the legal department been brought into this in the first place. I am abosolutely disgust to the way this country is headed.

  • http://HyperedtoPersonalLibertyDigenst Rosenlund

    This only shows you how out of control this is. Remember the priorities

    Expose if Nancy Pelosi has violated the tax payers trust.
    If so have her stand down
    Lock this investigation down. The whole world is laughing at this. This is not vanity or ego, it is security.
    Send the message to the current administration. Your man is in stop the campaign your party is presently in the majority but this is more than likely going to change.
    This should be Number One. Start doing the business of the people and stop doing the people. Take care of business and start killing the taxes not each other.

    Enough said

    • http://HyperedtoPersonalLibertyDigenst Rosenlund

      This seams to have goten lost in the e-mail I resend

      This only shows you how out of control this is. Remember the priorities

      Expose if Nancy Pelosi has violated the tax payers trust.
      If so have her stand down
      Lock this investigation down. The whole world is laughing at this. This is not vanity or ego, it is security.
      Send the message to the current administration. Your man is in stop the campaign your party is presently in the majority but this is more than likely going to change.
      This should be Number One. Start doing the business of the people and stop doing the people. Take care of business and start killing the taxes not each other.

      Enough said

  • http://stevenartus@gmail.com steven artus

    now for the nuts and bolts. I hav been writing this because I needed to make a point. like I have said many times I read a lot and what I read is conservative publications @ The Washington Times, Human Events, bothof which are news papers, and The

    Okay, lets get down to buisness. As I have said many times, I’m retired and I read alot, mostly conservative papers and magazines,@ The Washington Times and Human Events and The New American. The New American is put out by TheJohn Birch society, and before you say something S-T-O-O-P-I-D, Like,”Oh no not The John Birch Society”, you had better remember something. John Birch was an American army officer and a missionary in China, and one day he was put against a wall and shot, not because he was an army officer, but because he was a missionary, and he preached the Bible and the word of God. I have in the past read ENTIRE magazines about the UN and why we need to dump them and get the UN out of the US, and ENTIRE magazines about illegal aliens and how they are destroying our country AND OUR ECONEMY, AND ALL THE SCUM IN WASHINGTON WANT TO DO IS MAKE CITIZENS OUT OF THEM. On the top of the New American, in small print are the words,”SO FREEDOM SHALL NOT PERISH”. So don’t come around me and say,”Oh no, not the John Birch Society”. I have heard it all, and it’s all a bunch of crap. The JBS is not now and never was a communist organization

    In the Washington Times there is an excerpt from a law suite now in effect filed by several Patriotic Americans. Their names are: CHARLES F. KERCHNER JR., LOWELL T. PATTERSON, DARRELL JAMES LeNOURMOND, AND DONALD H. NELSON JR. AND THE WINNERS ARE:BARAK HUESSAIN OBAMA, PRTESIDENT ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AKA BARRY SOERTORO, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CONGRESS, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SENATE, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HOUSE FO REPRESENTATIVES, RICHARD B. CHENEY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE, PRESIDING OFFICER OF THEJOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS,VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND (DRUM ROLL, PLEASE) NANCY PELOSI SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. tHAT WOMAN JUST CANNOT KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT AND CREATE PROBLEMS FOR HERSELF. Anyway, I believe what they said,(it’s been awhile since I read the text) they violated their 1st, 5th, 10th, and 20th amendment rights, and this has been in the paper for more than a month running, so I’m pretty sure it’s not a joke I really believe everyone should subscribe to these publications. Besides good reading, it is very educational.

    I wanted very much fill you in a little on my life , such as it is, but I didn’t want to turn this into some sort of propaganda thing, although I did want you to know where I was coming from. My grand parents and parents both come from Russia and The Ukraine, although they did not come here at the same time, so they know first hand what you only read about. And I can assure you, they didnot fill my head with tales of the old country greatness. Yes, there were stories about different things,but not about how great life was there. They filled my head with how great life was here, and why I should be proud to be an American. None of them could speak English when the arrived, they had to learn, and no one forced them to learn. They told me it was ok to speak our language at home, but outside of home, speak English. They couldn’t make it clear enough that I was an American, and what that ment.They could not make it clear enoughTHAT WE WERE AMERICAN AND WHAT THAT MENT.

    Every male in my family and extended family volunteered for military service when they were old enough. My cousin Babe messed up his knees playing semi-pro baseball, and whe he and his brothers Ben and Hank went to enlist, he was devestated to leard he was 4-F. I also lost two cousins , on the same day, at Pearl Harbor. So, after 21 years of honorable service, one morning, while watching the news, and when I finally reolized I was not watching a cartoon, I was struck dumb. I didn’t know what to think. I could not believe what I was seeing. It didn’t take long for me to wake up and I went into over drive. I called anyone and everyone I could think of, from the president on down to the local dog catcher. I had to go back into uniform one way or another, or go into the air marshal service, anything, but I could not sit on my dead ass and do nothing. Everywhere I called, I left my name and phone number, every where I called again I left my name and phone number. Do you have any idea what it feels like to know that no one is going to call you? Do you have any idea what it feels like when the reolization hits you that for the most part you made a collosal fool of your self? Do you have any idea what it feels like to think that all of your years of training, your knowlege, everything was all wasted effort? And thenthose words come and haunt you, “YOUR RETIRED NOW, NOBODY WANTS YOU, EXCEPT MAYBE YOUR FAMILY”. Each year you went to the local miliyary installation for, get this, RETIREE APPRECIATION DAY. Well, I’m not dead, and if they really appreciated me, why didn’t they return my calls?

  • http://stevenartus@gmail.com steven artus

    So, here’s the deal, I’m not a politician, and I don’t know squat about how to go about doing it, but I want to get Barry out of the White House and I want to run for president. I know this sounds s-t o-o-p-i-d, but why do you think I wrote about all of those people who ran and especially Barry and got elected. Hey, I’m not stupid, although I may give that impression now, but I know what the American People want, and I honestly believe I can produce. Why? Because, like I said, I’m not a politician. What do I have to lie about? Our elected officials lie because if they want to get into office and stay there, they have to lie.So, what do they want? Smaller government. Okay I’ll go along with that, as a matter of fact,I want to see government down to about microscopic, hows that for starters. And I’ll tell you something else, there are a lot of people out there who don’t like
    dr, Ron Paul and I can’t imagine why. For years all he has talked about is smaller and smaller government, so why don’t people like him? Well,for starters, people say he just cant give a speech. Well, niether can Barry without his tele-prompter, and neither can I, although I haven’t tried lately. Guess what, he also wants to get rid of the fed and get us out of the UN, so whats not to like? He hates the Board of Education, and so do I. I cannot for the life of me understand why it is so damned important for kids from K through 12 to know why it is so damned important to know how to put a cundom on a cucumber properly.

    And how about our borders? Don’t you think it is high time we secured them? There was a time when those drug cartel idiots would sit on there side of the border and harass our Border Patrol people. Now they just come into the USofA and do what they want, and who is there to stop them. The Mexican army is no better. Some time ago a group of whatmay or may not have been Mexican military came into the US, held a Border Patrol agent, in uniform, in a plainly marked vehicle at gun point,AND CHECKED HIM OUT. CHECKED HIM OUT? who the hell are they to come into our country and check out our agents? Well, our elected officials don’t know how to stop that and neither does Barry nor does he want too, but I do, and I know exactly how to do it Will Congress approve of what I would do? Probably not,
    but with Barry gone, we wont have to worry too much about congress, because we will have a 3 party government @ Republican, Independent, and Conservative. When Barry goes, the Democratic party will vaporize. Remember, I said there were 44 members of the Democratic party in congress and the senate who knew and know Barry is not an American citizen.

    How about the war in Iraq? General Pelosi said,”I WANT OUR TROOPS TO COME HOME………IN DEFEAT AND DISGRACE”. Well, I want them to come home in victory end the sooner the better, And I know how to do it. The answer is staring them in the face and no one is looking. Why? Do you honestly think those scum in Iran and Syria REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT WE WANT? That half pint bearde scum has a one track mind, if you can call it that. Everytime he talks about the twelfth imam, his own people want to puke. They all think he is a lunitic and they are right, BUT, they are afraid of him and I cant imagine why. And of course he wants to destroy Isreal. Well, after screwing with those Arabs for almost 70 years, you would think the Isrealies learned from their mistakes, but they didn’t, and all it would take is to expell all Arabs from Isreal, including Arabs who are Isreali citizens, because they hate Isrealis as much as any Arab alive. Well, it’s almost 10 O’clock and I have been at this for some time and I need some food, and a little rest.Gotta go, see u2morow.

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