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Cheney Non-committal On Palin’s 2012 Qualifications

February 18, 2010 by  

Cheney non-committal on Palin's 2012 qualifications Former vice president Dick Cheney has been a vocal political commentator in recent months, focusing mainly on criticizing the Obama administrations’ foreign and security policy. However, when asked what he thought about Sarah Palin’s suitability to run for president in 2012, Cheney sought to dodge the question.

Appearing on ABC’s This Week last Sunday, Cheney was asked if the former vice presidential candidate was qualified for the job. He responded by saying that he had not yet made a decision as to who he would support in two years.

"Whoever it is [he or she is] going to have to prove themselves capable of being president of the U.S. And those tests will come during the course of campaigns, obviously," he said, quoted by CNN.

Cheney added that all of the prospective candidates today still have work to do to persuade Americans that they are up to carrying out "the world’s toughest job."

Earlier this month the former governor of Alaska delivered the keynote speech at the first-ever Tea Party national convention in Nashville, Tenn. A day after the speech, Palin, who is a new Fox News commentator, revealed that she was receiving daily policy briefings from advisers, and hinted she might run for president in 2012.
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  • Ed Butler

    Dick supposedly has been halfway intelligent in his critisizing
    of Obama and Co. And I’m all for it. Of course, I believe Glenn Beck has the best common-sense approach by far.
    My point here is: Cheney mentions whomever (runs),will have to be qualified to be US President. Look at Obama. If he made it then Alfred E. Newman could sweep in 2012. Get it?

    • Tim

      You stated that Beck has the most common sense approach. You have to be kidding! I take it that you are a rightwinger nut, who watches Fox Noise daily. I challenge you to read the hyperlink below:

      http://www.politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/

      • Michael J.

        Tim,
        While we are comparing true versus false, you might as well look at this as well.
        http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

        • Gustofero

          And your point is? Look at the ratings. Glenn Beck’s rate at MOST half-true, with a significant percentage in the “Pants on Fire” category. Obama seems at least to have made SOME effort to get his facts right.

          • denniso

            Amazing to me that anyone at all would care what Cheny has to say about anything or anybody…Cheny asked about qualifications for president??? do you know how to torture? how well can you lie to the American people and look sincere and serious? Do you favor war and death and destruction over negotiation and working w/ the world? Do you have the proper personal investments to be able to enrich yourself on gov’t policy you enact? Can you use fearmongering and hate to promote your extremist agenda???

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Denniso,

            Hmmmmmm…it amazes me that anyone would care what you think or what you have to say.

            Fed Up Gal

        • DaveH

          So we can trust a Website owned by the Left-leaning St. Petersburg Times?
          http://spectator.org/archives/2009/05/28/polifacts-fixers/

        • DaveH

          Michael,
          Let’s dissect the accusations made by Politifact:
          Glenn Beck is on 5 days a week making statements. They have him ranked for a total of 13 statements. What happened to the rest? Is that the best they can do?
          Then take Obama. They have him ranked for 241 statements. Does he talk that much more in public than Beck? It seems like it of course. Yawn. Notice that they have Obama down for 43 false or worse statements. That’s more than 3 times the total number of ranked statements for Beck, and more than 6 times the total number of Beck’s false or worse statements.
          I would say Obama is the champion in this contest.

          • Michael J.

            DaveH,
            I know full well the political persuasion of the St Petersberg Times and their legendary liberal leanings. Less than a week ago some one else had posted the Politifact site as a means of belittling Beck. While I was there checking it out, I noticed that they also had stats for Obama which did not portray him in a favorable light. Well, since then Politifact has done an about face and has skewed their findings to reflect a different reality. That’s what I get for trusting a liberal rag like the St Pete times.

      • Dale

        Tim . . . why not post all the “lies” Beck has told . . . I will post all the “lies” the Bamster has told . . . who will have the longest list? Why I will . . . .

      • Arkham Grundy

        sad that you believe in Glen Beck. He is no journalist, he is an entertainer who will say whatever his handlers give him in a script as long as attracts viewers and therefore advertisers. Anyone who believes that bozo is delusional.

        As for Sarah Palin… BIMBO

        • JeffH

          Arkham Grundy must be Tiny Tim’s father. AG, tell us how dumb GB and SP are, please?

          • denniso

            Cheny is an evil fool…Palin,sadly, is just a fool. If she is the best the rightwingers can come up with,boy,are they in trouble. Everyone w/ a modicum of intelligence knows she is a joke on the national stage…was in ’08 and still is.

          • DaveH

            And Denniso, is, well, just…

          • Tom Hopper

            This is how you can tell that the Left is intimidated by a political figure: They riducule them and call them dumd, stupid, or in the case of Sarah Palin, Bimbo. What is really encouraging to me is that if you take the name out of all the negative Palin comments, you would be convinced that the lefties were talking about Ronald Reagan during the campaign in 1980. Remember how dumb he was? Dumb enough to save the American economy from the brink of ruin, restore American’s pride, and destroy the Soviet Union with firing a shot. We need more dumb conservative candidates.

      • Conservative Carl

        Tim, does this same website use the Truth O Meter for Katie Curic or any other “News” broadcasters or for Chris Matthews or Keith Olberman? No I believe they have a different standard for conservatives.
        I seldom miss watching Glenn Beck and I happen to believe a good bit of what he says. You must have your head in the sand or glued to Katie Curic on CBS to not see what is happening today. Obama has surrounded himself with people who are Socialists or Marxists or who want our nation to be Socialist.

        I just wonder why it is that the Tims of the nation can have their viewpoint aired by ABC,CBS,NBC,PBS,CNN,HNN and by most daily newspapers and yet hate to see us have access to FOX NEWS or our weekly conservative newspapers and to Talk Radio. Your side controls much of the media and yet you just hate, as does Obama, to have any opposition. Can you rationally explain why that is?

        • eyeswideopen

          Conservative Carl, yes, you just type in the name you are interested in and it will give you the facts.

      • Cel

        Tim….you little “know nothing”

        You are probably one of those snotty nose kids who put Obama in the White House.

        I would like to see you debate Glen Beck or Dick Cheney.

        You hide behind your computer and spout your trash.

        Don’t work here……….Love Glen, like Barbara Walters said “He is one of the top 10 most interesting men in America”

        I did not need her to tell me that….

        You should watch him and stop listening to your “liberal” friends.

        May be you would learn something.

        Fox New has the highest ratings.

        If you watch CNN you may be missing “John Stossel and Lou Dobbs”

        They are on …..”FOX NEWS” now.

        *********

      • DaveH

        Glenn is going to have to try a lot harder to upstage this guy:
        http://newsgnome.blogspot.com/2009/03/official-list-of-obamas-broken-promises.html

    • Yes we did

      Sarah Palins brain Dead and Dick Cheney belongs behind bars as a war criminal

  • Norm

    Cheney’s opinion is about as useless as boobs on a bull. But even he, in his infinite misconceptions, has reservations about Elie Mae.

    • Michael J.

      Norm,
      First you state that Cheney’s opinion is as useless as a transgendered bull and then in the next breath seem to place respect in his non comittance on Sarah Palin. So which is it? Do you value Dick Cheney’s opinion or not?

      P.S. You misspelled Ellie Mae, I thought you Progressives were the educated class?

      • Norm

        Michael J.
        Let me explain. My point was that even an idiot wouldn’t commit to Sarah Palin.

        • DaveH

          We can see that Norm.

        • Michael J.

          Norm,
          I can’t help noticing that you did not deny being a Progressive.

    • DDC

      Norm, and Obamas and bidens opinions are as useless as B___s on a brass monkey. They both wake up each day in a new world

    • Cel

      Norm,
      You need to read Dick Cheney’s history.

      This man fears no one……I look at this administration and not one of them with the exception of Hillary Clinton have any b****.

      Obama goes to Cairo, apologies for America.
      He goes to the UN and kisses that Iranian’s butt.

      Norm, you would fit right in with those Chicago “thugs.

      Take this “Rashad Hussain” …he came on his staff last year, now he is appointed to a position where he can protect “terrorist”

      google him and see…….go ahead..do it ..and then tell me it is a lie.

      *****

      • Yes we did

        Dick Cheney should be turned over to the Iraqis for trial , then planted right next to Saddam ..

  • Chuck Bear

    Thank God Dick is still around to kick a little dirt into Obama and Bidens face. When Obama ran for office he promised change hope and a better world. blamed Bush for everthing if Obama had smelly armpits
    it was Bush who cased them to stink, after a year in office Obama still blames Bush for all that is going wrong in Washington and in the country. Its not Obama’s bad policys our his poor decision making or the fact the Biden is a total moron and a screw-up. The Tea partys rock we all need to get out there and take back America before its to late. Obama is going to sell the Whitehouse to china and then tell us all it a stimulus package.

    Matt.

    • Tim

      I offer the following remarks:

      Dick Cheney digs up dirt, because that is all he is good for. That is why his approval rating is below 20%, which is even worse than the Congress.

      You complained about the stimulus bill. Well, many economists have stated that had the stimulus bill not been approved, that the economy would have been a heck of a lot worse. Sure, the unemployment rate is about 9.7%, which is way too high, but it would be much higher without a stimulus bill. Also, about 1/3 of the stimulus bill was tax cuts, something republicans usually support. The only reason they don’t applaud this, is because the stimulus was passed by Democrats. The other 2/3 of the $787 billion from the stimulus bill is for infrastructure projects, putting people to work (like police, teachers, etc), funding extended unemployment benefits for the 9 million who are unemployed, and stabilizing state governments, which are having problems balancing their budgets, due to the recession. So, it’s fair to say that the stimulus bill was a success.

      Obama has every right to blame former president Bush for the mess that he inherited. Bush did the following things:

      1) Started two wars (Remember his “Mission Accomplished” banner?)

      2) Got us into two recessions (the one that started in 2001 and the one that started in December 2007)

      3) Spied on Americans and violated our privacy rights

      4) Practiced torture on terrorist detainees

      5) Had a CIA agent fired (Valerie Plame), because her husband opposed the Iraq War.

      6) Never vetoed any Republican spending bill from the Congress, thereby causing the Clinton budget surplus to evaporate

      7) Gave tax breaks for the rich, helping to explode the budget deficit.

      8) Had some U.S. attorneys fired, because they didn’t pass Bush’s political litmus test

      Republicans are all incompetent! All of them deserve to be voted out of office in November!

      • Dale

        Tim . . . you have a vivid imagination.

        Valerie Plame . . agent . . . she worked in the office . . . outed by a member of the State Dept . . FACT!
        Started 2 wars??? Only in your mind Tim.
        Never vetoed any spending . . . that’s the Pres’s job Tim . . but you got me on that one.

        I take it you’re thrilled with the present gang of thieves though!!

        • http://Don'thaveone Sally

          Dale, you know you can’t tell a liberal facts. They can’t stand that because then in most instances they have no rebuttle. However, I also want to point out a fact. The stimulous did not fund the extension of unemployment unless the dems spent all that money also. Unemployment is funded on two levels by employeers. They have to pay state unemployment and also federal unemploymnet. Federal unemployment is filed and paid once a year and is based on each and every employee the business had for the year’s gross earnings on Form 940, therefore the president like Bush did after 9/11 can extend unemployment for an additional 26 weeks. So get off it.

        • DaveH

          And Tim says:
          “Sure, the unemployment rate is about 9.7%, which is way too high, but it would be much higher without a stimulus bill”.

          And I say if we voted out all the Democrats, we would have the biggest economic boom in this country’s history. Prove me wrong Tim.

          Is that the kind of flawed thinking that passes for logic in the Liberal world?

          • Get it right.

            DaveH, Just what are you proposing that the “only correct party” in America do with all these awlful, stupid, tax paying Dem’s? Do you want to just round them up and kill them? Didn’t your mother teach you about generalizing about people or issues? I thought you were college educated? If your “party” has alot of people like you as members, no wonder they haven’t grown since the 70′s. You are so biased, it is obvious that someone who was a Dem, somehow harmed you. You want us to believe that the Libertarians would be fair and equal but the hate you have towards a political party makes me wonder about the gays, minorities, disabled, non-educated, you know, all those who are different, just how would you treat them? I suspect that you and your party members would turn on people, soon as you got control. You can’t even show respect for another point of view. In addition you use name calling like a weapon. Usually children resort to that type of communication.

          • Michael J.

            Get it right,
            Are you licensed to practice psychiatry? Drop all the psycho babble. Sigmund Freud you ain’t.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, for some reason I would bet a dollar to a donut that “Get it right” has her “eyeswideshut” if you get my drift. She could only fool a fool, which in this case, she is the fooled fool.

        • eyeswideopen

          Dale, maybe you should read more. Don’t you remember Cheney’s buddy Scooter Libby doing jail time? Just more Conservatives who don’t take responsibility for anything that they or their bed buddies, the Republicans, do wrong.

          • Michael J.

            EWO,
            Your mind playing tricks on you again? Dale didn’t mention anything that would deny the fact that Scooter Libby was incarcerated. I guess those mid seventies TV commercials were right when they predicted bad trips and chance of chromazone damage?

          • eyeswideopen

            Michael, it wasn’t someone in the State Dept who leaked her name. It was Cheney’s boy, Scooter. It was all retaliation against her husband, as he was telling the truth about the Iraq war, and how we were misled about the WMD’s that weren’t there. You did mean chromosome and not chromazone didn’t you? Of course maybe those 70′s commercials got to you too. lol

          • DDC

            Sorry to inform you ears or eyes there were WMD”S. they found enough stuff to wipe out the whole world after it was put together,they are still disposing of it

          • eyeswideopen

            DDC. SHOW ME A LINK!!!

          • JeffH

            The only link missink is you, “the missing link”.

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, as usual, you right wing radicals make statements, like DDC, did and you can’t back it up.. lying has become second nature to all of you and leaves you grasping for ways to try and re-write history.

          • Claire

            I must interject here. I did not know they found WMDs. When was this announced? I am serious here. I was under the impression none were found AT ALL. So where is this news coming from? I want to know.

          • DDC

            eyes here are the links you have been asking for on WMD,S

            The easy way to get to it is go to YAHOO SEARCH; type in
            WMD in Iraq Then press search

            Also http://www.cnn.com

            Under one of these links they tell about 11 mobile labs found buried
            capable of biological And chemical uses;;Also there is a lot more showing’s of WMD”S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Michael J.

            Claire,
            Search: WMD Bekaa Valley, Lebanon

      • http://aol borderlinedevill

        tim are you for real look at the debt now an you wanna blame who? its more then last 4 conflicts cost us im thinkin yuou done went an got pelosied fide

        • http://Yahoo Dee D

          Claire – What few weapons that were found should have been stamped to Hussaine, compliments of Geo. Bush Sr and the good old USA. Hussaine in turn used American weapons on his own people. Why else did they want Hussane tried and killed so fast? No truths from dead people.

          • jim

            Hi Dee D, What reliable source did you get this information from? this is the first I have heard of it.

      • cr747

        And worst of ALL the IDIOT DEMOCRATS, Whose ratings are way below the REPUBLICANS:::Sounds as though the Republicans have an advantage here,, probably because they are a lot smarter.. YOU can THANK Obama,, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Shummer, Boxer, Rangel, Feinstein.. My gosh, the list goes on and on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • cr747

          Above For TIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Joe H.

          cr747,
          Obummer complains that Bush started two wars and even went as far as to vote against the build-up in Iraq yet recently claims it as his VICTORY!!!! Yeah Wright!!!!!

      • cr747

        Yea Tim, and now Biden And Obama are trying to pat themselves on the back trying to take credit for all the good that Bush/Cheney did..How absurd can they get??

        Your list is all lies, not a one of them holds water whatsoever.. Are you trying to pat yourself on the back to??????????

    • Cel

      Chuck,
      You are not the only one who is sick of hearing Obama blame Bush.
      That man will never be the man President Bush is…he will never have the respect Bush has.

      The media made Bush out to be this monster…..and dumb people who can’t think for themselves listened to them.

      Look, how you being a liberal can say anything with the people in your party is beyond me.

      Man, look at these tax cheats, that is enough there….do you pay your tax? darn right, so do I…

      google his staff…….good gosh…they are all crooks…

      You need to keep your mouth “shut” with a family like that.

      ****

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Cel. Bush was too stupid to even qualify as a monster. Just a failure at everything he tried to do and his own party (CHENEY) used him as the fall guy to accomplish their goals. He did however learn just a tad while vacationing at the taxpayers expense during his 8 year free ride.

  • Don Tremaine

    I think that Sarah would make a great president. I like her policies her beliefs, her attitude about a great number of issues. It is my opinion that we would be a lot better off today if Obama lost the election. It is also my opinion that if Sarah was president we would be even better off. She is a Reagan conservative, to me that speaks volumes about her values and opinions.

    • Get it right.

      Don, dude poor old Reagan, wouldn’t even be accepted by the radical right. He passed abortion legislation in Calf. Didn’t do squat about deficit, granted 3 million illegal alliens citizenship, raised taxes, right after lowering them, was responsible for the Saving and Loan crisis which cost us 123 billion dollars, he increased military spending by almost 40% during a non war time frame. He couldn’t be elected dog catcher using the Conservative litmus test of today. You people are hypocrites.

      • Michael J.

        Get it right,
        Dude, I bet you can’t even pass gas without a slip of the tongue!
        Make no mistake,if Ronald Reagan were alive today and was allowed to run for president, he would win a landslide victory. But you just keep on a tryin tho, your words er purdyer than bovive genatalia.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Michael J,

          TMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but cracked me up!

          Fed Up Gal

      • DDC

        Be hard for Reagan to run for President to day But that’s how Obama got elected was by a lot of dead people voting

        • eyeswideopen

          ddc, But why would it be hard for him to run? Because he was for abortion, legalization of immigrants, or because he grew the deficit by 189%? Or is it because he just wouldn’t be radical enough?

          • jim

            EYES, Reagan was Pro- Life. The reason he wouldn’t be able to run now is because he is dead( in case you missed it) just like some of the voters ACORN registered and had vote Dem.

          • eyeswideopen

            Jim, you need to read about the Ca. law that Reagan signed into law. It is called the Therapeutic Abortion Act. Four months after signing it, he then decided that he was pro-life. WHAT HE MADE A MISTAKE? No, say it ain’t so. How easily you forgive someone who had such a big impact on abortion. Hypocrites.

          • jim

            Eyes, It’s OK to realize you made a mistake and try to make amends. It is the Christian thing to do to forgive someone who is sorry for there actions, not hypicritical.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      No way Don – Sarah would not be able to sleep through many sessions. Her diarrhea of the mouth would not permit it. She gets angry and uses the excuse that no one has the right to criticize her son (she’s right – he’s a special little guy) but she sure tosses him around like a sack of potatoes to show what a good mama she is. Nice pity prop huh?

      • cr747

        Dee D,,you are completely off line here.. Palin is a very smart young Lady::A lot more sense that Obama to be Commander and Chief..Obama is lost as a goose when it comes to making decisions,, especially on fighting war issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Alfred E. Newman

    Termain, you are an IDIOT. Palin Can’t talk without someone pluuling her strings. It is idiots like you, being led by the nose (sheep) that are ruining the country.

    • Norm

      Alfred E. Newman
      She’s dumb. When she was being prepped for her vice presidential debates/interviews, she scared her “handlers” with her total lack of knowledge on any subject.

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        At least she knew how many states comprised the US as opposed to Obama who didn’t have a clue and instead used 57 the states of Islam. At least she had been not only a mayor but also a Governor and had taken on big business and squashed them, and sold the airplane (she should have sole it to Pelosi). I am so glad she is down to earth instead of an arrogant politician. I would rather have someone who couldn’t read a teleprompter and give great speaches but speaks from the heart and experience. I had to laugh when they were downing her experience – Obama had ABSOLUTELY NONE. After watching all of this and researching for myself the credentials of the candidates, I voted for the McCain/Palin ticket because the other absolutely scared me to death, especially since he was a muslim. All you had to do was read his book and listen – had the tables been turned and McCain and Palin run on the Demo ticket and Obama on the Rep ticket, we wouldn’t be blessed with his sorry a_ _ today. But that is life!

        • Norm

          Sally
          You don’t need to read a teleprompter but you do need to read.
          I was going to vote, reluctantly, for MCCain but when Palin showed up with her total incompetence I opted not to. McCain is not a right winger by any stretch of the imagination. Palin is to dumb to know what she stands for but she sure enjoyed the federal money pouring into Alaska.

          • Michael J.

            Norm,
            I get it, you were all set to vote for the Progressive (McCain) but when the Conservative (Palin) showed up, you decided to go with your gut feeling, er.. tingle that is, and vote for Obama, right?

          • DDC

            McCain’s left wing doesn’t work either he broke both of his wings serving our country
            He doesn’t have a wing to lean on

        • Cel

          Sally,
          I go with you, don’t you just wonder how any “liberal” can say one word about Sarah Palin….with a jack a** like Biden who can’t keep his dumb mouth shut…ever time he opens his mouth he goofs up.

          and Obama..JUST LOOK AT THAT …..SMART GUY….

          1, thinks the car was invented in America,=.
          2, he said we have 57 states because the Islamic Conference comprises
          57 nations.(that is where he got the 57 states,he knew that but
          not ours.
          3, He does not know what our Navy Core men are called

          I could name more….but you should be more concerned with all
          these people he is creating jobs for…Mark Lloyd, Rashad Hussain,

          Hey, watch Glen Beck …he can tell you….and then google them if you don’t or want take his word….you need to check it out for your self.

          ***

      • cr747

        Norm, Where in the hell do you get lack of knowledge..I can tell you have got Obama confused with Palin..Obama is the one lacking knowledge,, and I do mean lack of.. He does not have sense enough to get out of the rain..He want even salute his officers,, or his guards..That ought to tell you something..Commander and Chief:::What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • DaveH

        Unfortunately, Norm, you can’t expect Sarah to be as smart as “57 states” Obama:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58

        I know, Norm, we should forgive his lack of knowledge of the United States, since he wasn’t born and raised here.

        • cr747

          DaveH,,that’s for sure::I am beginning to wonder if he was maybe hatched instead of being born..He won’t prove he was born!!!!!!!!!!

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Dave H,

          Where’s EYES “Hands Clapping”….when you need them?
          Sooooooooooooo funny!

          Fed Up Gal

        • eyeswideopen

          Daveh, why yes, let’s reward stupidity, like Palin not being able to keep Iran and Iraq seperate in her mind or her speech.

    • cr747

      Alfred and Norm,, You have got Palin confused with Obama..What both of you stated fits Obama and his pet sheep to a T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jere

    Palin does not stand a chance and if combined with the leftist McCain the Repubs will go down in flames and the Dems will have another four years. I am looking for a conservative Libertarian and the FairTax.

    • cr747

      Jere, that sure brings out a laugh,, we are not talking about McCain,,we are talking about Palin.. She is a very intelligent lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        cr747 – Yep- I’ll say she sure knows how to get the money from the zombies. Now try to learn how much that she’s gotten and had to put back in to prove she’s making bundles. You know – buy your own books.

        • cr747

          Dee D,, I have about 15-16 cases of her books on my plane..Every where I go they are always asking about her.. I was taught by my Congressman Dad,,Never Put Anyone Down Until You Have Walked A Few Miles In Their Footsteps.. I sometimes don’t adhere to it,, but it is a good lesson about talking bad about someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • DaveH

      We can only hope and dream Jere. Most likely we are going to get more Government building, although it will be slower destruction of our country than the Democrats would bestow on us.

      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

  • MaryLou Ross

    who ever is elected to any goverment office must love this contry,honor,respect,and use the
    principles,that the founders of this great country placed in the
    constition.
    many people have made great sacrafice’s for the freedom of this country and the citizen’s who live here some have given there lives
    that we may be free .
    we should all strive to help keep it free in every way.

  • perry

    Palin for Queen of Mars. And Cheney? Lord of Dungeons.
    What creeps?

    • Tim

      You are absolutely correct about them!

    • Norm

      perry
      Ditto.

    • Cel

      “creeps” ??

      What rock did you crawl out from under?

    • cr747

      perry,,Tim,,And Norm,, the three musketeers::How wrong you three are.. So wrong that it is funny..Maybe you three should be called the three Amigo’s..I think that fits you better!!!!!!!!!!!!1

      • Michael J.

        cr747,
        Three Stooges sounds better to me. “Hey Moe, Hey Larry, Knuc… Knuc… Knuc…”.

        • http://Yahoo Dee D

          Wow – You are good Mike.

    • DaveH

      Such substantive comments. Gee, can you guys teach me how to be a name-calling, ridiculing, condescending Liberal. It won’t take long, only a few minutes away from your trough.

      • Get it right.

        Daveh, you have the name calling down pat. You are a hypocrite who hates people based on a political party. How biased, bigoted and ridiculous can you get?

        • Norm

          Get it right
          Sometimes DaveH makes a little sense. I believe there is some intelligence lurking somewhere. Then he starts the name calling and ranting and crawls into his paranoid cacoon. You are right he is a hypocrite.

      • cr747

        DaveH,, who in the world are you talking about??? If you are talking to me,,I got all the name calling from you to begin with..So pay a little closer attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          cr747, DaveH, would never attack you. He is looking for members for his Libertarian party. He was referring to those liberals, which is anybody who isn’t a tea Partier or libertarian. He will be making sure that you aren’t offended quickly. He meant the guys, Norm, Phil, etc…

        • cr747

          DaveH,,my apology,,I am truly sorry..My bad,got confused!!!!!!!!!!

          • Norm

            cr747
            I’m not surprised you got confused. It seems to be the story of your life.

          • cr747

            Norm,,break loose and go with me for a week or two sometime..Bet you couldn’t hold a light over a couple days with my crew and guards..You would forget your own name..

            We are somewhere approximately 2-2.5 hours from Dallas flying from my home in Kahului, Hawaii.. Haven’t slept since 3:30 Sunday morning..
            Had a great weekend with my family,,and some friends..Ready to hit the old grindstone Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Phil

    Good news on the war on terrorism and economy fronts is bad news for republicans… They’re Only goal is to discredit President Obama at any cost to America…..ask any Republican what policy change they have diffrent from Bush & Cheney and you hear the sounds of crickets and stammering … They have nothing…just the same old tax cuts for the top 2% which for some reason they believe they should be paying instead of those that could pay and feel no economic pain at all, then they still want deregulation so big business, banks and lenders could once again drive the economy off the road…America will start to wise up to them real soon…you can’t keep slamming President Obamas efforts with no message if your own…Glenn Beck?… He’s a typical rightwing nutcase…. And once more…. Run Sarah Palin…you rightys better ratchet up the hate…

    • Dale

      Earth to Phil . . . the economy is running off the road as we speak . . . did you ever spend yourself to prosperity? The wheels will fall off next year . . . Comm Real Estate, Mortgage Default and high unemployment are not going away.
      What caused the collapse . . . can you say “Comm Reinvestment Act” . . . 1999 . . . trillions in worthless mortgages fenced all over the world . . . Bush actually tried to stop Fannie/Freddie TWICE!! . . . but the Bamster, over Christmas gave them a blank check.

      • Norm

        Dale
        When you inherit a disaster, turnaround is not overnight. Look at Reagan’s first term record.

        • Joe H.

          Norm,
          The biggest problem Obummer has is that he obviously has no financial experience. He hasn’t learned that spending more and more and more isn’t the way out of a budget crisis!!!!

        • Michael J.

          Norm,
          “That One” inherited squat! The day after the election, everyone in the country had an Oh My God moment and the effect on the economy was that of turning off a light switch. We’ve been on a down hill road to hell ever since. Those people like myself who saw through this imposter even before he was elected, told everyone that would listen that he never intended to fix anything. That he intended to instead tear it down so that it might be resurected in the glorious light of Socialism. He hasn’t proven me wrong so far.

          • Norm

            Michael J
            Short memory. You are forgetting it was Bush and his treasury secetary who pushed through congress the Tarp funds. Candididate McCain was also in full support.

          • eyeswideopen

            Norm, don’t forget, that it is ok, for one guy to give 800billion to Wall Street, but it is not ok, for the next guy to give 800billion to the Main Street. You must have forgotten that this is now the United Corporations of America. lol

        • cr747

          Norm,, the disaster started as soon as Obama walked into the oval office..He said damn,, never had so much money to spend,,wow I’m going to spend,, spend,, spend.. WOW this is fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Norm

            Nonsense!

        • DaveH

          Yes,
          Let’s look at Reagan’s record.
          Inflation Tamed.
          The beginning of the collapse of the Soviet Union.
          Unemployment declined from 7.5% to 5.3%.

          But then, horror of horrors, Reagan expected people to work for a living. Such an ogre.

          • eyeswideopen

            DaveH, I responded earlier, apparently “they” didn’t like the fact that I pointed out that you were wrong. In 1982 the unemployment rate was 10.8%. Over an 8yr period of time it was 7.5%. Key words 8 yr period of time. You certainly are not inferring that Reagan was responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union, that is an outright lie. Reagan, with Paul Volkers help caused an intentional recession with the blessing of Wall Street to stop the inflation. But you need to remember that Pres. Reagan had a Democratic Congress who worked with him for the good of the country and didn’t try to make him fail, even though they didn’t like the trickle down theory. That trickle down theory was attacked by your infamous Mises Institute, by the Cato Ins. chairman. see http://mises.org/story/1544
            Appreciate you sending me to the Mises site, very informative. Was very surprised that he was totally against Reagan and his economic policies.

      • Get it right.

        Dale, get in the real world, you are lacking in knowledge. Do you think the only mortgages in the world are through Freddie and Fannie? Why wouldn’t the Republicans listen to their leader Mr. Bush? SO, you are saying that the repubs are responsible as they didn’t do what their Pres. wanted them to do? Finally an admission of culpability. YEP, THOSE DARN REPUBLICANS WOULDN’T DO THE RIGHT THING THAT THEIR PRESIDENT WANTED. TOO BAD, WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THIS MESS, IF THEY WOULD JUST HAVE LISTENED TO THE CHIEF!!!!! Too funny for words.

        • eyeswideopen

          Get it right, they won’t respond to you. They can never admit that they didn’t do something right. Bush, had a Republican Congress who passed the Medicare bill, that he didn’t like, and refused to address the fiscal mess that was looming… WAY TO GO REPUBS!!!! He also wanted to address the immigration situation, but yet again, the party in power didn’t want to.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I hope you are happy with your state of affairs. Which trough do you feed at? The top 2% already pay the most taxes. Just wait until all the Bush tax cuts are gone. That’s right take from the small busines owners and give to those who don’t work or work just enough to claim earned income credits. I don’t know what it is up to this year, but did you know that someone making 28,000 a year, say having a federal withholding of 2,000, and has (then) 2 dependents (don’t have to be their own children, actually in 2007 received a refund of 4000.00. So don’t give me that bull about the tax breaks for the rich. I worked for Liberty Tax service as a Tax Preparation Expert and saw who paid what.

      • Norm

        Sally
        The top 2% of taxpayers are not small business owners by any stretch of the imagination. The top tax rate is 35%, and you can be damn sure that the multimillion dollar yearly cats have more loopholes than a knitted sweater. When Ike was president, incidently, the max tax rate was in the 90% area!!
        Even Warren Buffet, one of the richest men in the world, only paid at a 15% rate because most of his income is from capital gains. He said, with much embarrassment, that his housekeeper paid at a higher rate.

        • cr747

          Norm,, you keep on believing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • DaveH

          Apparently those “loopholes” don’t do them much good, Norm, since the top 1% of wage-earners pay 40% of the Income Taxes in 2006. That’s their fair share? My guess is that they don’t get any more “protection” from the government than the bottom 1% (who pay nothing) get.

          http://www.heritage.org/research/features/budgetChartbook/Top-10-percent-of-income-earners-paid-71-percent-of-federal-income-tax.aspx

          • Norm

            DaveH
            If your not very rich, your very naive.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Norm,

          If true (about Buffet’s housekeeper), I think she’s the exception rather than the rule. If everyone paid their fair tax share (no loopholes and everyone paid for examaple 10% tax) then people would not be so angry.

          There are too many who claim to be at or near poverty level, pay no or very little tax, yet have all the newest toys and amenities that many others who supposedly make much more don’t purchase!

          Stop the emotional blackmail; it’s a lame attempt at masking typical FLL behavior as something good. It’s still stealing….no matter how you cover it!

          Fed Up Gal

          • eyeswideopen

            FED Up, do you agree with the rich who are hiding their money in off shore accounts? Is it right that they reap the benefits of this country and avoid paying taxes?

          • Claire

            Eyes–you make a strong point here. There are some people that will do anything to avoid paying taxes and then other people get stuck footing the bill.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Eyes – Not sure this will post in the correct order; there was no “reply” button to click on.

            Stealing is stealing. The “rich” you refer to and hiding their money take a big gamble; if they get caught, they may end up losing more than they tried to hide…and if so, they and they alone should be accountable.

            The difference between them and the government thieves, is the rich thieves are just criminals who get caught…..and the government thieves are masquerading as helpers of mankind as they promote their “taking” a higher percentage of “others” money…as something good! They are never accountable, because they’ve suckered all the FLL’s into their cause.

            No one on the FLL side has even attempted to answer this question: If a tax base is needed, what is so wrong with expecting every person of working age and residing in this country, to pay an equal percentage of tax? I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll just have to keep saying it….5, 10, or 15% of nothing is nothing; 5, 10, or 15% of a lot is a lot more. What is so hard to understand about this? If there was such a fair tax, I would support going after those “rich” people you claim are the only ones trying to get over on the system…but I also expect those not paying anything in or less than their fair share, while taking from the trough… to be accountable as well.

            Fed Up Gal

    • Cel

      Phil, Phil,

      Stop the ranting………

      There has been enough hot air from your party.

      That is why they are losing elections and will lose more.

      Get your head on straight and come over to the party of real

      change.

      Your people had a year and have done ..”NOTHING”

      but in-slave us to China.

      and if you have been reading the news or watching t.v. they don’t

      like us…too much.

      ***

      ****

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Careful Cel – I think Bill,Hillary, Bush and CHENEY done an excellent job selling us out to China.

    • Phil

      Jim. Nonsense…..first, all the bailout money has to be repaid…republicans did it before Obama even took office …. McCain sat on on the same meeting on the economy that Obama sat in on….why don’t you tell me what McCain would have done….?…are you trying to tell me their was no wallstreet bailout before Obama took office?..,do you even understand that WE DONT EVEN HAVE AN ECONOMY WITHOUT BANKS AND WALLSTREET?… this isn’t socialism…. This is priming the economy…..stimulas….do you even understand what stimulas means?…. You can just ignore it and the failed banks and lenders get better… Doesn’t work like that…. No wonder… You republicans don’t understand what deregulation did…

    • cr747

      Phil,,Who drove the economy off the road?? Wake up dude,,It was Obama and the democrats that did that on their on,,behind closed doors may I add!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        What airline do you fly for? I don’t want to put anyone I care for in your hands. Let’s just name two little things that your boy bushie brought to fruitation. 800 Billion Medicare Advantage Act, non-funded, which means NOT PAID FOR, and two wars. Let me see, 800 billion is very close to one trillion isn’t it? Two wars which have cost 750 Billion and counting, but he didn’t care,. none of the repubs even thought about balancing a budget. You are living in that space you fly in. Just give us back that money for Iraq and Medicare and this country wouldn’t be in bad shape. You do remember Reagan don’t you? He had horrible fiscal problems and even had to break the Republican pledge of not raising taxes. The unemployment rate was 10.2 % with him. But he was lucky they increase the SS taxes and the SS base was also increased, so he had some additional revenue to draw on. But at least he wasn’t killing our kids for no reason.

        • cr747

          eyes,,I don’t fly for any airlines, I have my on personal plane..Billions comes before trillions..Now you take Obama he is not smart enough to know the difference,, but he has gotten us into the trillions,,like close to four trillion::: The 10.2% unemployment rate is where Obama has put us,,Like now somewhere around 9.7%.. When Reagan went into office the unemployment rate was at 7.5%, and he lowered that down to 5.3%..Think you need a new method of getting your history right,,and while at it keep up with the news of today..You are out of touch with the political agenda that’s going on around today..
          Just stay on here,,and someone will help you along,,and keep you informed::They say it’s bad to be senile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, see link above, Dave says the Mises Institute is the all knowing authority. You are wrong, unemployment was at 10.8% in 82. You need a little research. His average after eight years was 7.5% Of course you are trying to compare one year of Obama to 8 yrs of Reagan. Silly comparison, and not really fair, but then again, your party is used to mis-stating facts aren’t they?

          • cr747

            eyes,,you mean Obama did in one year what Reagan did in eight years..My Gosh,,by that then,”IF,” Obama stays eight years,,then no one would be working..That’s sad:: The figures on Reagan are wrong.. The unemployment rate never went over TEN percent..Wish I could say that about Obama..Dang he’s fast,, 10.2% or was it 10.4%?? (Someone just told me it has been 10.4% with Obama) 10.4% in his first year..Boy that sure is scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, nope, Obama, came into office while we were losing 700,000 jobs a month. It didn’t start when he took office. Facts, baby, that you can’t change. Your boy Reagan wasn’t that hot, take a look at this link. Written by the chairman of the Cato Institute,
            http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard57.html
            He basically is stating that Reaganomics was a bust. You need to find someone else to idolize. Let’s recap: Reagan 8 years, Bush Sr. 4 years, Bush jr. 8 years. So, for the past 28 years, we have had Republicans running the country for 20 of those. Yet, you try and blame the Dem’s for all the problems, were you guys asleep or drugged out during the last 28 years? You Repubs and Conservatives own this mess and rightly so.

          • cr747

            eyes,,I am a democrat,,Besides we had slick willy in there between Bushes..He screwed things up,”especially with his cigars.” You know he didn’t do a very good job either.. Kind of double talker,,remember,’I DID NOT HAVE A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT GIRL,”"QUOTE on QUOTE.”
            AH HELL SHE JUST SLEPT UNDER MY DESK,, and we SMOKE peace CIGAR occasionally..Anyway she slobbered on her dress some how!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            CATO,,isn’t that the guy that was living in O J’s guest house::: Gosh I don’t know whether to trust him or not..I’ll have to ask the Judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, no, dude, you have to know that the,Cato Insitute, is the Holy Grail for the Conservatives and Libertarians.

          • http://Yahoo Dee D

            cr747- Under what administration did our manufacturers start leaving our shores for the cheap slave labor? What bill and what sponsor was responsible for rewarding them for doing so? But us stupid consumers are guilty by abetting them also. We buy the junk instead of leaving it lay on the shelves. Hey, maybe we can get lucky, move into their country and take their jobs away from them like they have us. Living expenses may be cheaper.

        • cr747

          That would have been Slick Willy,”Bill Clinton” He started all this mess we have gotten into,, and now Obama is following in his tracks.. Can’t trust US Democrats.. Especially the one’s in Washington!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, for goodness sakes, do you not who conceived the NAFTA agreement? Look it up before blaming Clinton. Bush sr. signed the agreement, but it wasn’t ratified until Clinton admin. You people are hopeless, never take responsibility for anything that the repubs have done. Ironic.

          • cr747

            Now eyes,, remember,,I am a Democrat.. Slick Willy is the King of NAFTA..
            How about a Popsicle now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Phil

    Of course Cheney won’t endorse Sarah…… He’s aware she has the IQ of chewing gum….

    • Dale

      Sarah is dumb . . . but Biden is bright . . . lol Joe has to be told what day it is . . .
      Amazing someone so dumb . . . can write a book, sell millions of copies and draw a large following . . . but I know, those illiterate folks just don’t know better.

      How’s the hopey/changey thing working out for you?

      • susan

        As things are now, I’d like to see a Mitt Romney for Pres. and Sarah as VP. They don’t insult other people and both have experience running a business, Both were very good Governors and saved their states millions. That would be truly amazing..Non offensive people who are fiscally responsible and have brains..Hmmmmm…

        • Norm

          susan
          Mitt is a Mass. Repuplican, he ain’t no right winger. Sarah is lost at sea.

          • cr747

            Norm,,didn’t you here,,they found her floating on a magic rug..They are still looking for you,,I think it was you,,Norbama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Joe H.

        Dale,
        yeah thats a good one! “come on stand up and take a bow!!! oh, shoot he’s a paraplegic!!” And Obummer with his medical corpse and his Massiteusits!!!! 57 states anyone???

      • Norm

        Dale
        Hell Rush, Glenn, and Sean, sell books. But then Jim Jones’s followers had a Kool-aid party. There are a lot of mental dwarfs in this world.

        • cr747

          Norm,,damn right they sell books,,smart people sells books..Number one best sellers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Hey, she boosted her sales, by purchasing her own books for give aways to her donors…. Please, give the rest of us some credit, for knowing what she is doing. The great thing is she made royalities off of the deal too!!! Slick should be her new name.

          • cr747

            eyes,,that is pretty SLICK to be smart enough to write a number one selling book..Think you could write one??? Well maybe asking to much since you can’t seem to get all your comments straight::That was a dumb question to ask an illiterate person,,wasn’t it?????????????????

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, there you go with the name calling. Geez, I am so sorry that you are so threatened that you have to respond like a child.

        • cr747

          eyes,, I’m sorry!! Can I have a Popsicle now????? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, no, act like a spoiled baby, get treated like a baby!!!

          • cr747

            GEEEE,, Just one?????????????

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, nope, that’s what is wrong with this country, adults acting like children and never being punished. If my father caught us lying, we either got a butt whooping, or grounded to bedroom. We should get rid of anyone in public office who lies or intentionally tries to mislead us.

          • Claire

            eyes—then we would have to get rid of every politician in the White House, Congress, and the House of Representatives.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            There you go, Claire! I might agree with you on that one.

            Fed Up Gal

    • Cel

      Phil,

      You may want to take some history classes with Obama.

    • cr747

      Phil,,what flavor IQ do you like best?????????????????

  • Dale

    Tim, Phil and Norm . . . drop in on the Pension story . . . nobody is defending the “Regeme” . . . been keeping an eye on the socialists in Spain these days? They are broker than Kalifornistan . . . could be our future too!!!

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      You are correct Dale. The EU is behind the eight ball at the moment with the PIGS, (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) All in really really bad shape. Like Putin said awhile back, he just couldn’t understand this admiistrations pushing for communism. He said we tried it and it doesn’t work – wake up. I really would like to know what Obama has been promised by the purpatrators of the one world government. We all know what happens after you have accomplished what they want.

      • Michael J.

        Sally,
        Obama has is sights set on becoming UN Secretary General after he distroyes our country.

  • Phil

    Dale… I’m assuming you mean “regime”…. But I’m never sure when it comes from the right…like I said ” run Palin”… Please… But, let me point out that even 52% of Republicans say she’s not fit to become president…but that won’t deter the other 48%…you really should try other sources for your information..Fox, Rush and Glenn Beck will only use you so they can duck paying taxes on the millions they make on fooling you…. Don’t take my word for it..please research the polls on Who America blames for this economy…President Obamas only been in office 1 years and anyone with any common sense knows it’s going to take more than 1 year to fix the damage done by your party … And I know you’ve been waiting for the chance to say” how’s that hopey changie” thing going… Well it’s going fine.. But like I said,it takes more than 1 year… Ask me that in 3 yrs…and again… Name 1 change in policy that the republican partys made from the policys that got us where we are…I don’t think you can fo it… In fact , all you can come up with is silly slogans like Palin tried to bait Vice President Biden with…. Asking him if she could call him “Joe” just so she could say,” Say it ain’t So Joe”… That’s all you have…no policy, just derail the President…..once again… President spending( which you call socialist spending) is on America… What did you call that wasted spending on Iraq?…and I don’t just hangout on liberal sites…I go out of my way to post on rightwing sites…why would i want to be on a site that just agrees with me… It’s a shame the hate you have for anyone wanting a better America… Ratchet up your hate… President Obamas showing signs of sucess …. Afghanistan & economy…

    • Cel

      Phil,
      You know that Sarah Palin is just working to pull the “teabaggers, Independent and Republicans” together……

      Just wait and see……….

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      The Messiah you worship openly smiles on your contributions to his Socialist Propaganda while privately referring to you and those like you as “Useful Idiots”. To learn the the fate of useful idiots once they have outlived their usefulness,click on this hyperlink.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE38dLxapVo

    • cr747

      Phil,,where do you get your numbers??Off of BINGO cards::Dems B38%,,Obama A41% approval rating..Damn that must hurt:::Lowest numbers in 1st year history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://msn Dale

    To Personall Liberty News Desk
    When someone answers a question they are not dodging the question.
    His answer is typical of most people in the world about Mrs. Palins qualifications. The one thing we do know is that she, and the majority of Americans, are more qualified that our currant president.

    • Cel

      Dale,
      I am with you, I am just so shocked that anyone supporting Obama can say one word about Sarah Palin. (?)

      Obama and Biden are some dumb butts.

      ***

      • cr747

        Cel,,they are dumber than that..Look how fast they got us trillions of dollars in debt!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          cr747, don’t you read? 800 billion for Medicare, 750 billion for the two wars. That is prior to Obama. Try as you all may, the facts are going to remain the facts. Repubs spent like a bunch of drunks.

          • Michael J.

            EWO,
            Billions and Billions and Billions, you’re beginning to sound like Carl Sagan.

          • eyeswideopen

            Michael, I know, it is hard to overlook the fact that the previous Pres. got us to over a trillion in debt, and didn’t bother funding either one…. lol…. what a screw up.

          • cr747

            eyeswideopen,,the T::for trillion is on top of your keyboard..Now the B,,which you are getting confused with is right above your space bar::Obama,,now remember,”guess you could be smart like Palin and write it in the PALM of your hand,” He is the one that has gotten us into the TRILLIONS of DOLLARS in DEBT..”Remember” its T not B::Did that help you any..I sure hope so,,It is so sad to see you struggling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            eyes,,I plumb forgot,,”hands clapping,” lol and oh yea lmao!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, let’s see 800 billion plus 750 billion, that equals 1.55 TRILLION. I know you all would just like to play like the non necessary Iraq war didn’t cost us anything, but surprise, it did. Did I mention that it was not funded? Nor was the Medicare Act. I guess you didn’t care about the kids back then did you???

  • Phil

    Sally, can you provide a source for the quote you posted from Russias Putin( I can’t understand why Obama administration is pushing communism, we already tried it and it didn’t work”…..I’ve googled it and can’t find it….surely you wouldn’t post anything that wasn’t true.. Would you..?….oh… And could you point out what policys Obamas has that are communism?…and if it’s the stimulas package, republicans have also done this… Even before President Obama took office….had McCain been elected he’d had done the samethings Obamas done… McCain sat in on the same meetings on the economy that Obama sat in on…please post your Putin source…

    • DaveH
      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, love it, absoutely love it,….they state “for the past twenty years”. Oh, who was in office for the past 28 years? Reagan 8 years, Bush Sr. 4 years, Bush Jr. 8 years, let’s see that’s 20 of the past 28 years. Congrats, you just pointed out that the Repubs have killed this country, just ask the Russians.

        • cr747

          eyes,, don’t forget about that CIGAR smoker Clinton:: I bet he started inhaling.. He didn’t inhale in college.. Naw-Naw He didn’t inhale that marijuana::: You know that might be what’s wrong with his heart.. Him and Monica started inhaling.. But he had 8 years in there,,and you all said it takes a new president a year to clean up after elected,,so Bush Jr. only got to serve 7 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, since the repubs had control during Clinton’s years, we really can’t give credit to Dem’s for anything good that might have happened.

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    When Norm said Cheney was as worthless as boobs on a bull, well the teats surronding the scrotum of a bull, tells what and if bull’s daughters udders will productive or just hamburger beef. Of course I would bet Norm and his friends are all Obama’s Zombie followers. Cheny has done something more in life than be and over educated slug who has always lived off of taxpayer’s money. Except when he was a drug dealer with a runny nose. Everything about dems. do is make us more like the EU and have never meet a government program they didn’t like. They love to spend taxpayer’s money and don’t pay their fair share. Like Giether, Daschle, Rangle, all leaders of the democrat party.

    • Cel

      Pat,
      A group of Newman’s were sitting around a table talking about business’ in America and the know how……

      I had to laugh when Dr. Krauthammer said “not one of these guys have ran as much as a candy store”

      and we have a President who was a community organizer.

      My gosh, read Obama’s history….of course …most of it is “sealed”

      And no one cares…….”he looks good, sounds good, must be good”

      and what do we get?

      A dumb butt know nothing …that got into Harvard because he had

      friends in the middle east with …MONEY….

      READ IT PEOPLE.

      ****

  • Phil

    So have any republicans taken advantage of the ” recovery act”… And if they have… Are they socialist?..

  • eddie47d

    Sarah has no clue what’s going on in the world so I won’t be her lemming. Cheney is still nothing more than a grumpy old man. He reminds me of John Edwards trying to save his sorrid reputation.Cheney should have been a member of the German Kaiser clan. Hey,Dale the Hopey/changey thing is working just fine; Oh except for the Republican obstructionists,who have plotted and sabotaged everything. Way to go you do nothing right wing nut jobs.

    • cr747

      eddie47d,,is that your waist size or your hat size..I doubt Ms.Palin would even want you around Wimpy..I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a big mac today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Tim, Phil, Norm and all of a similar ilk, pull up a stool and gather ’round the ol’ cracker barrel and set a spell. Feelin’ comfy yet? Here, take a swig of Capp’s “Kickapoo Joy Juice”. That’ll either settle you right down – mellow you out, so to speak, or fire you up. One or t’other. Now, unfortunately, it seems the rapidity of your rabidity belies reliability of your rectitude. That, “my good friends” (as they say in the worlds of politics and statecraft) is what is so disappointing. Ye claim the moral high ground, intellectual superiority and forbearance, yet, for some unfathomable reason, you devolve before our very eyes into that which you claim to despise. Why is that? Are you morally and intellectually superior beings, a more evolved branch of the family tree, or not? This inspiring mind wants to know.

    • Cel

      Myron,

      You know they are “know nothings”

      Knowledge without wisdom……….

    • cr747

      Myron,, yea,,they are the part of the tree they call,,the Blooming Idiots!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Phil

    Myron… The short answer is “yes”… And thank you for holding up my examples… You made my point… And you did a good job of it…..nasty and silly… That’s it….

  • Phil

    Lol… I can understand why you’d avoid this question…… Have any republican senators , Govenors,congressman taken advantage of President Obamas ” Recovery Act”.. ?…and please, don’t bore us with anymore Slim Pickens speeches or anymore Sarah Palin “winks or You Betchas”…I want to know what your party would have done had McCain and ( laughing ) Sarah won the election …..and I assume you republicans think your party could have started turning this economy around faster….. How?..

    • cr747

      Phil,,since I am a Democrat I’ll answer that..They sure wouldn’t have gotten us over a trillion dollars in debt..Then we wouldn’t have to be worried about sending our soldiers over to a Muslim Country where the Muslim President will probably tell all the Muslims what move they are going to make next,,and get our soldiers killed,,or disabled for the rest of their life..I do not trust Muslim Obama as for as I can see him,,and I sure do not believe a word he says.. I do not trust Biden,,Obamas pet sheep,”you know the one that crapped all over the floor in Air Force One,” and for damn sure I don’t trust bug eyed Pelosi::Now wasn’t that simple and to the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        cr747, let me be the one to clue you in. 110 of them critized the stimulus but also put in writting why they wanted the money for their districts. HYPOCRITES, all of you are nothing but denying hypocrites.

        • cr747

          eyes,, I thought it was 111 instead 110:: Am I wrong again?? If it was 111–can I have that Popsicle now??????????????

      • eyeswideopen

        In other words, you have no answer. Reducing taxes and cutting spending wouldn’t do the job. If it would have, don’t you think the Dem’s would have taken the easy way out and made all those free spending repubs happy?

        • cr747

          Eyes,,Oh No,,that would have been to simple when the Republicans tried to tell “US” Democrats that,,It made us look like fools..So we decided to table it,,and bring it up ourselves at a later date::See how smart “WE” Democrats are..We are not “HIPPOCRATES,,” It made us look good..Don’t You think??????????????????????

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Dear Phil, Seems there’s a whole lot o’ “assumin’ a’goin’ on, out there”. ‘t’only makes an “ass” out o’ you [u], not “me”. Lissin’ up, ol’ son, an’ I’ll enlighten you some. For you and all of the rest of you who use, for example, the derogatory pejorative “Teabaggers” for those who actually believe in self reliance, entrepreneurship and fealty to the intentions and concepts our founders put forth in both our founding documents and their written records, collectively known as “The Federalist Papers”, I give you these “Words to live up to”: “I am an American.” A non-hyphenated product of legal immigrants who willingly uprooted from their homelands to start anew in a search for a better life for not just themselves, but, most especially, for their posterity. Did they decide to stay in or move to Europe? Hell no! They looked around and decided that America’s promise of freedom to succeed or fail, based on your own efforts and abilities, offered a far greater opportunity for success for they and their families than the ingrained cast system of their homelands, wherein one is not supposed (nor, in many cases, allowed) to “Rise Above One’s Station” ever encouraged or offered. We have, until recently resisted the “womb to the tomb” mentality that permeates so much of Europa over the last half century or so, let alone the rest of the world’s numerous and various despotisms. They, our ancestors, also wished most fervently to escape the tyranny, soft or harsh, of their oppressive, anti-individualistic governments. If you’re so inclined to remain where you are, supinely depending on manna from “Big Brother”, that is your God given right. It is your right to choose giving up those unalienable rights He gave you. (It’s called: “Free Will”.) It is also your right to allow nameless, faceless others to choose for you what you may earn, where you may live, what products you may buy, how many of which and when and where you may do so. You may allow others to decide where you may go to school, live and work; how and when you will get to and fro on your daily rounds, as well as how much “Charity” you will fund with the sweat of your brow, and to whom it will be given in your government’s name. I, however, am an American – and I choose otherwise.

    • Cel

      Myron,

      Glen Beck would be proud of you.

      Your my brother…..
      You know who you are …

      A lot of people don’t, as you know.

      They just blindly follow a leader who is shouting out pretty words

      that tingle their ears..

      They want know what happened to their dreams until the wake up in

      the nightmare their leader has created.

      ****

  • Phil

    Don’t forget… President Obama was elected by a majority of Americans and he was elected because the Republicans drove this country into an economic ditch….President Obama wasn’t elected because it was ” his turn “… He was elected because the republicans were horrible….and first you rightys need to face up to that fact…you’ve still had NO POLICY change….my problem with President is ” he’s still trying to include republicans”… It’s like trying to include foxes into guarding the chicken coop…ohhh Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh are not sources…

    • Cel

      Phil,

      Go wash your mouth our and go to bed.

      Your story is old…we don’t buy it….we don’t want to hear it.

      We have seen the light…we know the truth…

      Krauthammer said “don’t listen to Obama, watch him”

      You sir need to do that.

      ***

    • cr747

      Phil,,elected majority eh?? Just where do you think that elected majority came from..Let me tell you:: The Democrats had a lot of dead people voting,,a lot of made up names,,a lot added an initial to their name,,and some even changed their last names..Now if you think that is HOG WASH,,it is..I talked to a black man,,and he told me that there was a bunch from Illinois that came to his home to see if he had voted,,he told them he had,,and voted for Obama,,Then they slipped him some GREEN BACKS and re-registered him again with a different Initial or last name,,as they did a lot of more people like that as I was told..So you see that is illegal,,and dishonest,,and screwing the AMERICAN PEOPLE..So that is how he got elected:::BY FRAUD,,AND CROOKS:::Just like what we have got in the Whitehouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

      • eyeswideopen

        cr747, what’s the difference between Obama and Bush getting elected. You think Obama stole election, and we have proof that Bush definately stole the election. So, we are even. Except you can’t accept the fact that America couldn’t take anymore of the bs the Bush admin was doling out.

        • Michael J.

          Ewo,
          OK, I’ll bite, where’s the beef, uh, proof that is that Bush stole the election?

          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen

            Michael, I have to put them in different posts, as when I put two in, they remove. http://vodpod.com/watch/1094164-how-george-w-bush-stole-the-2000-election-part-1-of-2

          • eyeswideopen

            Michael, if you are interested, which I doubt, you can just type in Bush stole election 2000 and it will pull up 50-60 sites. Did you want me to address the 2004 election also?

          • cr747

            eyes,,I went to that first post,,and it said server not found..He must be hiding……..
            Went to second post,, and it said request not available…………
            Went to that third post,, and it said five Supreme Thieves stole It…So I called the FBI and they are going to go look for them five………
            Went to that fourth post,, and it said Bush Stole it..So I’m going to fly to Crawford,Texas in the morning and see if he has got it………

            I will keep you informed..I just hope Pootin didn’t get it and mess it up so we can still read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • libertytrain

            eyes, in a good site, such as this one, multiple postings of links are usually taken as a form of spam -done to PROTECT the other posters.

  • Phil

    Myron… Exactly… I doubt if you even understand what you posted… But I’ll help you…. The people spoke … President Obama was elected by the people …it’s called democracy.. And in the best republican style you could come up with , you’ve avoided the question and you’ve avoided responsibility…I’m not at all impressed with your attempt at being “Folksy”….. Bottomline… The people did express their right…. We voted in President Obama.. You lost…your post is about as ignorant as I’ve seen in here… Just rambling nonsense…

    • cr747

      Phil,,just like everyone of your post are plumb unrealistic;:I guess you think yours makes good sense then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Phil, these people don’t believe in democracy. They only believe in one political party and one religion. They like wars as it let’s them feed on fear and gives them excuse for running up the military budget for their crony corporations who we subsidze with our tax dollars. These people are truly unAmerican. They demand respect, but fail to give it to others. School yard bullies sums up their attitudes and the self righteous anti-Christian actions are examples for younger generation to avoid. I can’t wait to see how the Tea Partiers and the Repubs split the vote and eat each other for lunch.

      • cr747

        eyes,,lmao!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Phil the Recovery Stimulas Act did stimulate some rino republican government officals, but as to moving along the “shovel ready” projects, there was no movement, because there was not any projects ready. The officals had not moved the paper trail along yet and the theorist ovr educated wonks have never moved or created and thing but their jaws and paper. Oby’s crew are all professors or dreamers but don’t have a clue on how work is done. Gov. Palin has done more honest work than Washington eleits ever have. Of course Sheets Byrd has lit up a few crosses.

    • Joe H.

      High Plains Pat,
      The only “shovel ready” projects that Obummer has produced are the ones people like tim and a few like minded ones have aquired. They involve walking behind Obummer and Biden with a shovel……..

    • Cel

      Pat,

      That crew Obama put on his staff are like you said “boys” who went to school, read books and think they know everything and know nothing.

      They do not care how much in debt we are or how much they spend.

      Americans are so mad because they don’t have jobs, losing everything

      and Washington is on one big spending spree.

      How crazy is that??

      Our city is mad, they are hurting…and they have more time than ever

      to read and research what is going on, before they had to work, but

      now….they know.

      ****

  • Phil

    Explain Sarahs leaving her elected job as Govenor of Alaska before her term was up?.. That makes her qualified?… How so…?

    • susan

      I believe Sarah left Alaska so the media would stop trying to destroy her family. She didn’t want the media to drag down Alaska too.

      • eyeswideopen

        susan, so Alaska is so fragile,that they couldn’t deal with a little bad publicity? You are too funny. The woman wanted to make big money. Can’t fault her for that, however she can’t keep a commitment. What would she do, if she was Pres, and the name calling started? Quit?/// Yes, she would. She has a history of quitting.

        • cr747

          hands a clapping,,lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            cr747,

            Ha Ha LoL!

            Fed Up Gal

      • cr747

        susan,,A very true statement..Naturally if the news media gets some dirt,,they quickly turn it into mud..True that she didn’t want Alaska to be demonized by the news media,,so the best thing she could do was,”resign”,,She did the right thing:::As for her family the Democrats made a big deal out of her daughter,,and then all the news outlets started tooting their whistle,,and blowing it out of proportion,,The JEALOUS one on CBS,,Katie Curic thought she would really stir a stink,,and now CBS has lost a lot of news watchers..I am one of them,,can’t stand to even be in the room when she comes on..

        Palin,, being the lady she is was just defending her family,,and Alaska;;You know I wonder how many in the Whitehouse,,and in the news media have illegitimate children,,and/or grandchildren.. Bet we would be surprised..

        • eyeswideopen

          cr747, who cares about illegitmate? But I am concerned that by the time a women is 45, she should know that getting pregant at that age, is a big risk for a child to have disabilities. She admitted that it was not a planned pregancy, so she was careless and her child is paying for it. I can understand her daughter making a mistake, as she is a kid, but not many women over the age of 40 are accidentally knocked up, unless they are reckless and immature.

          • libertytrain

            you are right eyes, we need pregnancy police -

          • coal miner

            Eyes,

            I have to disagree with you on this one.There was was a recall on prophylactics,because of leakages in the products,accidents do happen.I don’t think it would be wise for women approaching middle age to take birth control pills.The high risk of strokes,blood clotting and other health factors, do increase with age.Palin may not have plan this one.

          • libertytrain

            Coal Miner – exactly – things do not always go as planned – hard to believe that a woman wouldn’t understand that – if eyes is a woman.

          • eyeswideopen

            liberty, we already have them, they are called Conservatives/republicans. Pretty soon, they will be dictating how many children we can have.

          • libertytrain

            Eyes, from what I can tell, – from your comment, to me, it sounded like you were the pregnancy police with regards to your harsh comments about her getting, what did you say she was inept for getting “accidentally knocked-up” – – again, I can’t be that mean-spirited, and realize the body is a funny thing with regards to birth-control – but perhaps you have more insight on ALL WOMEN over 40 and have come to lecture us on our sometimes ignorance as women over 40. You claim to be a registered Republican in so many of your posts from Sept. Oct. Nov. – so I guess you must be the pregnancy police as you described.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Right on, LT! Eyes needs to get some shut-eye…I mean rest. LoL.

            Fed Up Gal

            P.S. Hey Eyes….I know you won’t be able to resist commenting….sorry; couldn’t help myself tonight!

        • cr747

          eyes,, I didn’t know she had a wreck and got “PREGANT”.. I was scared she had SEX with someone.. Was the wreck her fault?? Hope it wasn’t HIT,,BAM,,and RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      Sarah Palin left her job as governor because a bunch of spineless, gutless libbies like you brought numerous frivolous charges against her to the tune of over one million dollars and she quit as she couldn’t give her all to Alaska and go to court every day! I might add she was found INNOCENT of all charges except one minor misdemeanor!!!! I wonder if your hero Obummer was brought up on as many charges that he could be found innocent? He’s about as innocent as the perverbial wolf in sheep clothing!!! Or in this case socialist clothing!!

      • cr747

        Joe H,, we will find out about all his charges p r e t t y soon now..Don’t know whether it will be before IMPEACHMENT or after IMPEACHMENT..But his charges are a lot more serious than anyone can imagine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OH I FORGOT,,I CAN’T WAIT!!

    • Cel

      Phil,

      You know why she stepped down as Governor.

      So what are you saying about Evan Bayh leaving??

      **

      • Claire

        I look for Evan Bayh to run for office, not sure which office though.

  • Phil

    Pat…really…would it suprise you if you found out republicans and the minority leader himself ( John Boehner)as well as Eric Cantor have used and excepted Stimulas money more than 111 times… When I saw the list it blew me away..the list is very long… But I invite you to search it( google) and come back and tell us if it’s really just a few Rinos…the hipocracy of these republicans is shamefull…. Also, are you really trying to tell me after all the years republicans ignored our infrastructure their are no shovel ready jobs….?…read the names and votes by these republicans… Then come back and explain….

    • Cel

      Phil,

      That is just so dumb, dumb.

      All states will have to pay the stimulus back…right?

      Well, my Senators voted NO…NO…Because we told them to…

      Will we have to help pay it back???

      Well…………if we are going to have to pay for the car….

      then we are going to drive it.

      Is that to much for you to comprehend?

      ****

      • Phil

        Cel….your senators listened to you?… Why did 111 republicans take the stimulas money then…they played you.. Think I’m lying?… Google ( 111 republicans took stimulas money…. The republican minority leader Boehner even took the stimulas money … So did Eric Cantor…. You’ve been fooled again…. And Sarah Palin…. The woman who quit her job as govenor… She the one that 71% o Americans say isn’t fit to be President…. And A whooping 52% of Republicans say she isn’t fit to be president….. She cared so much about exposing her family to politics she had a writter write a book for her and went on a national tour to stay outta the spotlight… Lol… So.. If the republicans say the stimulas package is socialism and destroying America why did they take the money?… Your answer outta be funny…..are your republican leaders socialist also?…. You don’t even know what socialism is…

    • cr747

      Phil,,takes to long to go through the DEMOCRATS names first.. D comes before R..Did You Cry When You Read Them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Phil

    Pat…. Google… Republicans that have taken advantage of the ” Recovery Act”….. I dare you…. Then read what they said( quotes) about the act creating jobs …I just want some honesty…rinos?

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Well Oby Phil, Saraha left her job a a govonor to say money for the people of Alaska. Her experience as a business person running a private fishing company. Getting all the BS permits, paying taxes, monitoring costs, paying bills and doing something constructive for society and the economic welfare of this country. As opposed to the rabid socialist leach that is a drain on society, has only worked as a community organizer spending taxpayer money, and also doubt if he paid taxes on his dealing profits. He has not even ran a lemonade stand, because he was raised by people who hated the US and lived as a muslim and got his eleitist education on someone elses money. Saraha has a real life experience, not bildge theorey to operate off. If McCain and Saraha would have been elected we would not have to import oil from muslim countries, but getting here and and selling it on the open market to China, India, and all other countries making money and paying off our debt. Instead this green energy dream land doesn’t work outside too well if it isn’t in cities and the beltway. Saraha knows that and all professors on are in dream land!!

  • Phil

    Would voting aginst the stimulas Bill then accepting stimulas money be hypocracy?..

    • Cel

      Phil,

      No…no…

      In our state….our Senators listen to us.

      I guess they will in others soon.

      ***

      • eyeswideopen

        Cel, want to know what state you are from, so I can see who your senators are. Do you mind telling us? I predict that you won’t.

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      Relax, you sound over stimulated. We know there’s enough rotten apples in Washington on both sides of the aisle to make a hundred barrels of apple jack wine. That’s what we’re about. We’re not talkin bout pickin-n-choosen, we’re talkin bout complete restoration. We aim to bring government back to factory default settings. Nothing but bare walls aside from original founders programming.

      Now you’re gonna say we cain’t function without at least some experienced personnel, but I submit that that’s the way we started out the first time around. I think we’ll manage to reboot just fine with plain’ol devout patriot types. You know, ones like myself who are descendants of the original founders.

      Now there’s no need of ya ta try and change our minds, cause our minds are already made up. Besides, the British couldn’t change our minds and neither did Hitler nor the Japanese. So they ain’t no sense in yall progressive liberal types fussin n carrying on and tryin ta shock us into sidin with you’re way a thinkin by flippin yer skirts up.

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Phil…..really…. the only jobs create were in goverment, which is a drain on taxpayers money and creates only more paper, check the stats. Over unemployment just meant up somemore, where is most of the job growth? The beltway!! The dems have been in control of both houses for 3 years and now we have a year of total dem control and really like the change and feely mush mouth garbage? Sounds like the administration thugs aren’t rating in positive area with their present plans of loving dictators and muslim terroists.

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    As for taking stimulus money if the states get some of their money their citizen paid in Obamee along with Giether will give it to their Wall Street buds, spend it more pie in the sky dream works that don’t work. Name one program the government got involved in that worked and stay in budget!

  • Phil

    Pat… Infrastructure jobs are not ” goverment jobs”… So now you want to be picky about the label you put on jobs…. Employing people is the intent….. Now will you tell us if those that excepted the stimulas money are just a few rinos… ?…did those republicans who voted aginst the recovery act except stimulas act money ….? And why can’t you just be honest?…

    • cr747

      Phil,,Honesty works both ways..Why don’t you try and be honest?? Oh I know,,you got it from Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Shummer, Rangel Boxer, Feinstein, All man this would take all night::Lets just say all the liars in the Whitehouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        cr747, what is Phil not being honest about? Facts are the repubs took the stimulus monies and pretend that they didn’t.

  • Phil

    So are Republicans who excepted stimulas money also socialist and communist?

    • eyeswideopen

      Phil, YES, SIR, THEY ARE SOCIALISTS, just look at the subsidies that they give to their crony corporations, as additional proof.

  • JOE CAPRIO

    THERE ARE SPLITS WITHIN THE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN PARTYS NATIONALLY AND REGIONALLY. IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THERE ARE THOSE WHO CONSIDER CHENNY ELECTION DAY POISEN AND THOSE WHO AGREE WITH THE FORMER V.P. I CAN’T SEE HIM EVER BEING FOR PALIN, UNLESS HE PERSONALLY HAD CONTROL OF HER.I DON’T SEE THAT HAPPENING.THE DEMS ARE REINVENTING THEMSELVES OR RETIRING.ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I THINK THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME. SELDOM IN HISTORY HAS THERE BEEN SUCH A BACKLASH AGAINST ALL POLITICIANS.MY RATIONAL FOR THIS IS , WHEN FOR FOOL WITH PEOPLES QUALITY AND FREEDOM OF LIFE,YOU GET OUR ATTENTION. JOE CAPRIO

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Phil, as to the infrastucture and the reps, don’t you read or know the Davis-Bacon act that is a drain on building and creates a mess from Washington to get a job ready and do all the paper work. In the late 60′s it took a year topurchase the land and get to building, now thanks to unions, envior-freaks, treehuggers, and just plain paper shufflers make more non-productive work to get done. Now it is 8-10 years before work is ever started. That is why maybe we will be building by 2020. Also why we are buying oil from camel jockies. We have plenty of energy here in US that would put people to work with good jobs and high pay, but the socalists want us all to work for the government like Russia.

    • eyeswideopen

      High Plains, here in Fl. we got a bike trail with the stimulus money, to the tune of one million. But the main support we got was 3.8 billion for the school teachers. We are a republican state, who didn’t use good fiscal policies and we are broke, just like the rest of the republican run states.

  • Phil

    Pat.. Sahara?… So Sarah left her job to save the people of Alaska money?… Lmaooooo… I’m sorry… I couldn’t help but laugh…and Now you say Obama was raised a Muslim ?… And his grandparents hated America?… Really?..Pat… Never mind… Our discussion is pointless…

    • Sue

      You need to look a a video where Obummer tells out of his own mouth that he was raised a Muslim and his politics are very much influenced by the muslim book of law. I’m going to try to get the link and include it here so you can see for yourself.IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS ….THIS SHOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND…

      Sorry….you’ll have to copy and paste this address into your web browser address bar:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28>

      • Phil

        Sue, you’re either a liar or a fool… I suspect you’re both… I saw that YouTube you posted…. They were discussing accusations made by the right that he was a Muslim… You can clearly hear him correct himself and say( my Christian faith)… Of course the lying scum on the right just used the 12 seconds on your YouTube…I believe you know your lying but don’t have the integrity to admitt your a liar….it’s kind of like when Bush mispoke and said( were always looking for ways to destroy America…. I know and admitt Bush misspoke …. You can’t help but lie…. Any rational honest person watching the Obama interview knows it was just a mistake which he quickly corrected…. He admitted nothing and never, ever said the words( I was raised a Muslim.. You are a liar… Fact..

        • cr747

          Phil, GO TO http://www.youtube.com then go up to search and type in:::

          IS OBAMA A MUSLIM

          IT IS ABOUT A 10 MINUTE SPEECH,,HE TALKS ABOUT THE KORAN, AND THEN HE GOES AND VISITS A MOSQUE:::HIS SECRET SERVICE THINKS HE HAS LOST HIS MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Phil what infrastucture jobs are you talking about, zippo in roads, bridges or even sidewalks. Government jobs are a drain, look at Congress over paid a do not productive. Or do you work for the government, or other non-productive types?

  • Phil

    Cr…. If you want to check…. Realclearpolitics.com….. Both democrats and republican polls in congress are pitiful….both below 47%… and about 1 point apart…. Hardly an edge to brag about for either republicans or democrats…. Personally the message I get is Americans are fed up with both partys in congress…

    • cr747

      Phil,,Damn I can’t believe it:::We agreed on something,,but,,get this,,the DEMOCRATS are down past the three count..They are done for,,unless they impeach Obama before November 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • eddie47d

    Oh,Susan and Palin defenders! “She didn’t want the media to drag her down” She thrives in the limelight,can’t get enough of it .She used her family time and time again and still does. Also look into Alaskas’ tax system and see how much all of America pays for “her” state! She’s got the wool pulled over us. Mr High Plains, The govt. has to abide by the same rules that you talk about,so it will take awhile to create govt. jobs like any other business. Some Republicans say they will turn things around. That’s fine,so where are all their private jobs with all their private money?

    • eyeswideopen

      eddie, funny that Alaska gets $1.84 for every dollar they send to the fed. It is the highest in nation. I just love the fact, that we taxpayers paid for Prudoe Bay, and yet, they reap the benefits. What is wrong with this picture?

      • cr747

        eyes,, where’s the PICTURE,, I didn’t get to see it…Did someone steal it too??? Dang I’m always to late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          cr747, so you are happy that citizens in Alaska, automatically get over $3000.00 every year from their government just because they are Alaskians? They are really promoting socialism, the more kids you have the more you get from the government. Sarah, has some nerve talking about socialist programs with Alaska being supported with “OUR” tax dollars. What does she think socialism is? Why should you or I give our money, so that they can receive 3k at the beginning of every year?

          • eyeswideopen

            cr, that is every single person, regardless of age, gets the three thousand. Not a bad deal.

          • jim

            Eyes, The money comes from an agreement from the oil companies that are getting oil from the oil fields and using the Alaska pipeline and it’s been in place long before Palin was Goveror.

    • American Citizen

      We don’t need more government jobs, that’s a large part of the problem now. The Federal Government is the biggest employer in the country and the median wage is $71,000 plus benefits. Some of those government agencies are redundant such as the NEA.

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Phil as for Obamee own words he went to school in a madrasses. As for rep. taking stimulas money it was wrong, now the feds have their hand on your state and cities. Which you probably won’t know if you don’t read or just watch MSNBC or never go to a library.Oby’s granddad was an admirer of communism and took tuturing in Hawiaii from a communist, who loved Saul A., Leinin and thought Russia was great. As for Saraha the B–lS–t law suits costs the state, either you are a real young Oby Zombie or else you have a pretty limited experience in life, about what I world expect from your comments of adoration of the trained ape we have for a President and brain dead administration, that hates free enterprise and capitalism. I also laugh and get a cuckle for you limited scope on life.

    • Joe H.

      High Plains,
      There is also a recording of Obummers own voice telling people of the U.S. that he is a Muslim!!! cr747 put the site on the other night!!! All you have to do is Google is Obama a Muslim? and you will see the thing!!!

      • cr747

        Joe H,,I will put it up again::: http://www.youtube.com go up to search

        type in:::: is Obama a Muslim

        There is about a 7-10 min speech of him admitting he is a Muslim

    • Phil

      Cel… Didn’t your people lose a couple elections in 2006 and 2008?… So your crowing about what…. And it’s anti incumbant… It’s not a pro republican rant…maybe you can tell me why your party was thrown out on it’s butt then?… I’m not happy with my party… But I damn sure don’t want the same people ( republicans) that drove the country off the cliff back in there…. It’s only been a year and the economy is picking up and Obama has made more progress in Afghanistan than W & Cheney made in 8 years…. All the republicans did was ruin the economy and create a terrorist training ground in Iraq.. Obama will have his 2nd term… The economy will turnaround And you’ll hate it…

      • cr747

        Phil,, sorry to disappoint you,, but there won’t be a second term..Not sure he will get to fulfill his first one for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Eddie, goverment jobs a already created and growing nad expanding quickly. Alaska could provide more to the lower 48 if the wonks in Washington would get out of the beltway. Saraha sure sent money back like the bridge to nowhere, and got more money from companies fro the citizens without sending it to Washington. As the stimulas Program it was set by a Weather Underground, who blew up building in the US. More Oby’s Karl Marx admirers and indiots who have questional back grounds. That is the core of the dem. party, all state controlled government!!

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Cobress approval is only 13% acording to latest poll.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Dear P[h]il[l], You must’ve wet your torn, moldy internet dress by now. Having fun? Eh, “Wet Shorts”? If you didn’t understand that we, of the movement conservatives, are fed up with overspending Progressives and RINO’s from both parties, then your either obtuse, brain dead, or willfully ignorant. They, the aforementioned class of politicians, suffer from what I call: “Outspendemitus”. (Or is it “oses”?) To almost all of this class of “professional” politicians, the term, “Fiscal Responsibility” means spending as much of other peoples money to benefit their own political rears as possible. That sir/madam, is what we’re fed up with.

  • Phil

    You’re fed up with the same healtcare your own republican leaders enjoy and your own republican leaders are excepting stimulas money while telling you it’s socialism .. You don’t even know what a rino is… Of course your leaders would rather you pay their taxes for them… They’re all millionaire … You’re just usefull idiots for the leaders of the republican party… I doubt you even know what socialism is….I don’t recall any of you concerned conservatives complaining about the bailingout of wallstreet while Bush was in office… Where was the outrage?… Where were the charges of socialism?…

  • Phil

    Myron… All one needs to do is just read your post to know you’re just a nutcase…sillyness, that’s all you’ve got…Myron…if your Republican leaders except stimulas money… Why isn’t it socialism?…and don’t you believe it’s hypocritical to vote aginst the recovery act then accept the money?… You need to answer this… So far not 1 of you so called conservatives has had the courage or intelligence to answer the question…. If I thought the stimulas package was so bad I couldn’t accept it .. Why did your leaders accept the money… And how can they tell you that Obamas healthcare bill is so horrible but it’s the same healthcare they except ?…. Your being played… They’re using your own ignorance aginst you…Here’s another question you conservatives can’t answer, or your afraid to , What policy change has the republican party made since your last administration drove our economy into this economic ditch?…

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      If you check, you will find that a few governors refused the money and were forced to take it much like some of the banks and other financial establishments were!!! So what good would refusing it do?

    • cr747

      Phil,,just when I thought I had you knowledgeable enough to continue on,,you let me down:::The Republicans did not accept the same health care package,,simply because they did not know what was in it..The Democrats wanted to hide behind locked doors;;;AND NOW IT HAS BLOWN UP IN THEIR FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        cr747, think Phil, was stating that the Repub leaders all presently have the healthcare that the rest of the country wants. They have it, but will deny the rest of the citizens the same coverage. I think we should cover them while they are in office and terminate it when they leave. Why should it be a life time entitlement?

        • cr747

          eyes,, I’m inclined to agree with you.. They ought to give us the same coverage that they have,, Or they should have to take what they are trying to cram down our throats:: Yes I agree that when they leave office they should have to be treated the same as us.. Pay for the same type ins we have,, or pay the full premium on what they have now::: You know if enough of “WE THE PEOPLE” would stick together we could stop some of this freebie stuff they get.. We are the ones paying for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Claire

            Eyes & cr747–I agree with both of you on this–once they are out of office they should get their own health coverage just like the rest of us. And they should pay for it themselves. They should live like the rest of the world lives. I am tired of the freebies they receive, and they certainly have not “earned” them.

  • http://gmail High Plains Pat

    Made tax cut on business and cut back on government social programs and dropped government workers pay bach to going wage in the state they are in, to start with, cut Congresses staff by 50^ and take Cogress’s free medical insurance for life and when they leave stop the money like the rest of America has to do unless you a government wonk That is for starta and make welfare fathers take care of their sponn until they are 18.

  • Phil

    Republican policys tanked our economy long before 2006… People started losing jobs due to Republican policy long before 2006……why was Obama elected ?… Because the Republicans ran our country into the ground…

    • jim

      Hi Phil, The uneployment rate in 2006 was 4.4%. What is it NOW, after 3 years of Dem congress and a year of Dem monopoly(congress& Whitehouse).

  • Phil

    Joe… That’s funny…and about as hypocritical as it gets…what good does it do to refuse it?…. So your answer is…. It was forced on the republicans who took it?…. The very leaders of your party took stimulas money more than 111 times… Leader like Monority leader ( John Boehner).. And Eric Cantor…. Why don’t you google ( what republicans took stimulas money)… And while your at it, read what Boehner said…. He said it would create jobs…..Eric Cantor also took the stimulas money… And your comeback is( they had to?…the list is to long to post… But taking it 111 times kills your argument

  • Phil

    Pat… I’m having a tough time reading your post… Are you saying that’s what they did… Or that’s what they should do?…. In either case it doesn’t matter… The bottomline is all of congress has access to the same healthcare they’re telling you is socialism and they’re taking money they’re telling you is socialism ….Republicans have done the exact samething Obama had to do to get the economy going….can you yell me why Obama would want to take all our tax money to give it to banks and wallstreet if he didn’t have too?… Why?… I’ll tell you… Because lenders and banks as well as big business abused the system due to republicans insistance on deregulation

    • cr747

      Phil,, to buy their votes,,he thought this was a great way to help the economy,,and buy him another term,,but it didn’t..A matter of fact he is doomed,,and soon!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Phil

    Let’s be silly for a minute and suppose Obama is a socialist…. What advantage could he gain by taking money and giving it to Wallstreet , Banks and Mortage companys?… How would this benifit socialism?…. It is what it is… And that’s a bailout of business… The economy doesn’t work without banks and lenders… Do you even understand how this economys supposed to work?… No banks… No economy.. That’s the short story

    • jim

      When you have them beholding to you, you get control over them.

  • Phil

    I don’t know how to get it across to you republicans that you can’t run our country into the ground and fight 2 wars( 1unnessessary) and not tax and spend…and that’s how you’ve failed this country … Who pays to rebuild this countrys infrastructure?.. Who pays to rebuild the military that Bush wore down in Iraq?…somebody has to be taxed because the money in the till was wasted by your republican administration…are you gonna dit here and Tell me Obamas agenda was to bailout wallstreet?…what’s the return?… Why would that be his agenda?… Think…theirs no socialist agenda to be gained by bailingout the economy…

    • jim

      Still on that ifrastructure kick? We already told you, fuel taxes go for road repair and the utility companys pay for the electrical grid and gas pipelines and telephone lines and generating plants, paid for by the people who use the services in their utility bills. One thing that may hinder up-keep on the grid is gov. telling the how much they can charge consumers, so if they need more revenue to improve it the can’t chrge the custumers.

    • cr747

      Phil,,you need to tell the crooks in Washington that,,and of course the biggest crook Obama..Bush didn’t spend trillions of dollars..Obama is the guilty one there..Even the democrats questioned him on that..Why do you think so many democrats are retiring..Because they are afraid there is not going to be any retirement money for them when they all get defeated in November 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        cr747, again, 800 billion for medicare, 750 billion for two wars. Equals 1.55 trillion dollars of debt!!! What about that don’t you understand?

        • cr747

          eyes,, That’s a long way from 4 trillion that Obama has spent in just 1 year.. Now he’s talking about spending more…
          Maybe we need to get that Pootin Guy to run,, well not run,,”that running sounds bad,” but maybe to help us out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Grover Syck

    Short and to the point.
    Cheney and ‘W’ both belong in jail.

    • jim

      Hi Grover, Shorter an more to the point, WHY?

      • cr747

        Jim,,not as short and to the point..He does not know either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Grover, I will cut Bush some slack as he let Cheney lead him down the wrong path. He trusted his daddy’s friend and since he didn’t have the knowledge he put those blinders on and away we went. Cheney, however just admitted that he was for torture and taking away our privacy rights with the Patriot Act. He is an evil man. We need to change the laws, to be able to proscute those who try and subjugate the Constitution, to follow their own personal beliefs.

  • Phil

    Jim…pay attention… The infrastructure hasn’t been upgraded … Fuel taxes haven’t paid for highway repaid, the electrical grid is a mess, bridges are in need of repair… You aren’t blind are you?…why don’t you research it.. Our infrastructure money went to Iraq…I bet you believe Iraqs oil paid for the war ..

    • jim

      Hi Phil, I can get to anywhere I want in this country, by car train or plane. When I get there I can flip on a switch and get light. I don’t know why you can’t. Fuel tax money and money from utility bills that go to maintain the ifrustructure didn’t go to finance the war. NOTHING was taken away from it. Maybe you wouldn’t be the blind one if you turned the lights on.

  • Phil

    Jim… Why don’t you just google( Americas infrastructure )… See what it says…. Then come back on here and post what you findout.. Fair enough?

  • Phil

    I’m trying to figureout if you republicans are really this stupid or just flatout liars…maybe a lot of both…I don’t call you conservatives because you aren’t… Your radical rightwing anti goverment , anti American racist..no matter what it is .. If Obama is for it, your aginst it…your republican leaders even vote aginst their own bills if Obama endorses them… Like the stimulas bill.. They voted aginst it buttook the money more than 111 times… No ethics or morals… That’s your republican party… You just want our president to fail and you’d gladly take the country down just to take him down …

    • cr747

      Phil,,UH::: I do not like to be called stupid,,and definitely not a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • DaveH

      Surprise, Surprise, a Liberal resorting to name-calling, ridicule, and condescension instead of facts. How trite.

      • Norm

        DaveH
        You know how that works. Your a master at it.

  • Phil

    Jim… Read what the Roads and Bridges commission says about the state of our infrastructure….

    • jim

      I’ll bet they won’t say that fuel tax money was stolen from the to wage war. Being a government agency I’ll bet your bottom dollar they’ll say they need more. County, states, and cities have road systems they’re supposed to maintain. I bet state and local taxes weren’t taken to pay for roads. I know in Chicago that once your done paying the bribes, kickbacks, environmental impact studies(using a ctonies company to do the study) and greasing the union leaders hand you can start paying for the road. No conservatives or reps involved.

    • eyeswideopen
      • cr747

        eyes,, I found that POP QUIZ,,and I passed..I made an A..
        Now I bet you will let me have a Popsicle,, Want You?????????????

  • Phil

    Cel… Your senators listened to you?… And took the stimulas money…what they did is play you for a fool…

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      Your comments on this thread are more numerous than turds at the dog pound. Repeating the same old rant over and over again is a sign of insecurity. If people do not believe you the first time try,try again, right?

      • eyeswideopen

        Michael, he is just acting like the Conservatives and Repubs, by repeating over and over again, eventually some of it sticks. How can you critize someone for doing the same thing you are? Too funny. Difference is that he isn’t lying.

        • jim

          No he isn’t purposly lying, He’s just wrong.

  • Phil

    Funny how these rightys disappear when you hit them with facts….their own party leaders took the money…. After calling it socialism….too funny

    • cr747

      I’m not laughing,,is anyone else laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        cr, you shouldn’t be, you are being ripped off, by the same old farts who have been in office for too long.

    • jim

      Some of us who have jobs needed to go to bed to get up in the morning to go to work. We’re not running away from your misguided logic.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Phil -You sir, are(words removed for offensive content). Take your third grade education (twelfth, if you were educated in California) and use your diploma (if they were feeling kind) for what it’s really worth – toilet paper. “Except” instead of “Accept”? “Stimulas” instead of “Stimulus”? Et cetera, ad nauseam. (although you do have a similar grasp of syntax as the legal immigrants my grandmother taught citizenship classes to for fifty years did.) You, sir, do not tell me, nor anyone else which, and/or what questions to answer. You may ask politely, but alas, I fear that is beyond your ken. (Now he’s wondering if I just called him a “Barbie”.) Keep it up, my friend. You only are as safe as your last IP address. Just as arrogant loudmouths on CB radios are until their signal’s are triangulated. When your luck runs out, someone will stand you on your tippy-toes and drive you into the ground like a tent peg. And they may pick a good bit o’ hard scrabble to do it on. As they say down south – “See Ya”.

    • denniso

      All you can do is threaten people?? No intellect to use in debate?

      • JeffH

        dennisso, and you think debate is put on a fishook!

  • Senior Cesar

    2/19/10

    Today Vice President Cheney said in the news that Obama is going to be a one term president. But if a one term marks a president as undesirable; then, George Bush Senior was an undesirable president. Yet after Bill Clinton in two terms did right to America, Bush Junior was railroaded by the swines of congress to bump out Al Gore, and the bush’s legacy has left a horrible wound in the American economy. That is really undesirable leadership. And Cheney himself have been very undesirable since he did nothing but fattened his bank account during his vice presidency. The CIA and The FBI have to keep a watching eye on Cheney because he is dangerous to America. Voters beware.

    With Obama And Biden our prosperity is secured.

    We the people of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Prosperity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    • denniso

      Good comment,now be prepared for an assault from the ‘hate class’…

      • jim

        What was GOOD about it? The only truthful thing in it was Cheney predicts Obama to be a one term pres. and Bush senior was one term. After that some name calling and nothing of substance. I guess the Bush bash was enough to make you like it. I don’t know if my calling it as I see it makes me the HATE class or the TRUTH class, because that post was really lame. I guess if your on the wrong end of it the truth can appear hateful.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jim, he is right, Cheney entered office with net worth of 22 million, left it with 98.9 million. Does the word Haliburton mean anything to you? You people don’t care about honesty or integrity or you would have been screaming during Bush’s spending.

          • denniso

            Hello Eyes…I hope you’re having a good beginning to the new year. Take care and keep challenging these ‘folks’.

          • cr747

            Tried to fly one of them Haliburton’s one time..Boy was it tough.. I finally got it off the ground though!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • jim

            Hi Eyes, Senior Cesar’s post didn’t mention Haliburton, or any thing else of substance for that matter. Cheney resigned his post at Haliburton when he became V.P. He earned that money before that All that shows is that he is a good buisnesman. It also knows how an economy is run, unlike the current administation. In reference to Bush’s spending he needed congress to approve it, he didn’t just whip out the credit card. I didn’t always approve of the spending and if I didn’t like it then I sure don’t want the wreakless way the current admin. and congress is going now. If you didn’t like how Bush spent money you have to be absolutly flaberghasted by this crew. (right?)

          • eyeswideopen

            Jim,Jim, Jim, his net worth upon entering office was 22 million.Upon leaving it was 98.9. Who do you know made that kind of profit while in office? He obviously didn’t sell his stock and certainly made sure that Haliburton got those contracts.

          • jim

            Eyes, Eyes, Eyes, He left his position at Haliburton When he became VP.That is fact. YOU make the big assuption that it was from Haliburton getting contracts and if he was a Chicago Dem we would be positive of that. Now about the Bush spending being wreakless and I should have been up at arms about( and I was)how do you feel you can defend this Addministration. All I see from you is not standing up for yoyr people just going back in time and pointing out past mistakes( real or imagined) The defence of” they were wrong sometimes” doesn’t justify the big wrong going on now.

  • eddie47d

    Myron, Your comments to Phil sound like a threat to me. Really uncalled for.

  • Farmer

    I was shocked to see Dick at the CPAC.

    I was even more shocked to see ***conservative**** ****grassroots**** ****leaders**** cheering and applauding him and even his daughter. It was such a shame to see.

    He is conservative in some respects, but his daughter… by what measure or stretch of imagination?!?

    Is anti-social sexual behavior considered conservative nowadays?!?

    If so, then Mrs. McCain should be our next president, and her daughter would well as a vp….

  • Claire

    Personally, Dick Cheney is not to my liking. Of course he will not promote Sarah Palin. He is promoting himself. He will step on anyone that gets in his way. His daughter is of the same DNA. Is he running for office? Egad, I hope not. He is nothing more than the typical politician, he speaks from both sides of his mouth. And nothing comes out but psycho-talk.

  • chuck b

    personally, dick cheney means nothing to me, i voted for both he and bush, i was disappointed in bush the last four years, not because of the things you say, but, he gave in to the demo”gogues” on their spending and helped them start our down hill slide. you can call cheney all the names in the book, however, he has far more intellect then anyone in the current admin. the demo”gogues” have got this country in such a mess they are looking for anyone to blame. the one thing you have to remember, dick cheney and bush are no longer in office the demo”gogues” have been pulling the purse strings since 2007. bush didn’t have enough backbone to try to stop their spending and they are still at it. has anyone looked at this last stimulus bill. $233,000 to study why adricans vote the way they do. god help us!!!

    • chuck b

      $233,000 to study why “africans” vot the way they do!

    • eyeswideopen

      chuck, did you not know that the Repubs had control? Why wouldn’t they have controled spending prior to 2007? Medicare Act in 2003, rpubs had control, cost 800 billion. Since the Dem[‘s didn’t have control who do you think is responsible for that debt? Take the blinders off.

      • denniso

        Chuck and the other extremists want to blame Obama and the Dems for the problems we have now…amazing!! Just as 9/11 occurred under Cheny/Bush and they tried to blame Clinton, the economy collapsed under them and now they and their pawns want to blame Obama…talk about not owning up to one’s responsiblity…talk about ‘values’…

  • chuck b

    eyes

    look and see what the deficit was in 2007, the demos took control that year. bush went along with their spending. why don’t you wash the liberal web out of your mind and join the libetarian’s.

    • eyeswideopen

      chuck, I know you want to be informed so these links will interest you.http://usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-08-02-deficit-usat_x.htm

    • eyeswideopen

      chuck, http:/www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt_hist05.htm
      The Republicans didn’t stop spending as you can see.

      • chuck b

        eyes

        couldn’t get that up on google. so what are you trying to say? i didn’t say the repub’s didn’t spend, the demos were doing the most and still are. they have been in power since 2007
        THAT IS CORRECT. CHECK THE RECORDS NOT THE MEDIA CRAP!..Patty Parker

        The Washington Post babbled again about 0bama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush, blah blah blah. Amazingly enough, a lot of people swallow this nonsense.

        So once more, I’ll try a short civics lesson:

        Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

        Democrats controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

        For FY 2009, though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack 0bama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.

        And where was Barack 0bama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.

        Let’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period:

        If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack 0bama, who voted for the budgets. If 0bama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

        In a nutshell, what 0bama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

        WAKE UP, AMERICA , BEFORE ITS TO LATE

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