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Cheney Blasts Decision To Try 9/11 Suspects In Civilian Court

December 2, 2009 by  

Cheney blasts decision to try 9/11 suspects in civilian courtFormer Vice-President Dick Cheney heavily criticized the Obama administration and Attorney General Eric Holder last week over their handling of the five alleged 9/11 conspirators who are set to be tried in a civilian court in New York City, according to Newsmax.com.

Cheney referred to the decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-confessed architect of the 9/11 attacks, in civilian court as a "big mistake" and accused the administration of treating the acts of terror as "law enforcement problems."

"We had 3,000 dead Americans that day," Cheney said in an interview with talk radio host Scott Hennen on WFZN. "That is not a law enforcement problem. That’s an act of war. And you need to treat it as an act of war," Cheney added, quoted by the news source.

Meanwhile, President Barack Obama has taken additional criticism for his strong defense of the decision to try the suspects in such a venue.

"I don’t think it will be offensive at all when he’s convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him," the president said in an interview with NBC, quoted by the Daily Telegraph.

Charles Stinton, a lawyer and former Pentagon official, believes that the president’s words could backfire and adversely affect the government’s case.

"The defense will file a pre-trial motion seeking to have the charges dismissed," Stinton told the news source. "It will say ‘what juror is not going to want to now fulfill the president’s and the attorney general’s desire?’"
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  • Disgusted

    This president is such an idiot. This was an act of WAR and it is a mistake to try them in a civil court. Were they read their miranda rights? Not – they can have the case dismissed from a civil court on that alone! What an idiot! This guy is going to get off and the world will be laughing at America once again. The word on the street will be you can do anything to them and there will be no consequences! When will this president STAND UP for America instead of making excuses for America and making it weaker. Again…What an IDIOT!

    • John

      Disgusted, I agree with you as I’ve been saying the President only takes a stand against the American citizenry. For example, the ones that do NOT agree with him and that appears to be the majority.

    • http://msn Jake

      This president will not stand up for anything American, sad, but true. The Land that afforded him his position and all he can do is condem us. Bad news…

      • denniso

        You guys are overreacting…It’s a decision to show the world that we live by the rule of law. Not a big deal.

    • eyeswideopen

      Disgusted, does that mean the other 195 who faced trial and were found guilty under the previous administration are now running loose and that Bush didn’t stand up for America when he let them be tried in a civilian court?

  • Robert

    Well the democrats finally got their wish. Put Bush and Cheney on trial. This is how Obama pays off for his nomination by the democratic party. Let’s see what he does when total chaos erupts in New York City. He’ll probably call in the military to kill the real terrorists. Oh yeah, that would be us American citizens.

    • denniso

      Robert…can you spell, p-a-r-a-n-o-i-a ??? Take some meds.

      • Joe H.

        dennisobber,
        Can you read (words removed for offensive content)! Sorry for you there is no meds!!!

        • Joe H.

          dennisobber,
          BTW, still think Lou Dobbs is a conservative? He now supports AMNESTY!!!

      • Joe H.

        denniso,
        Can you spell B_R_A_I_N_L_E_S_S ? Unfortunately there is no medicine to cure that for you!!

        • coal miner

          JoeH,

          Slow down,you are losing it.

          • denniso

            I echo that comment!!

          • Joe H.

            Coal minor,
            I only call them as I see them to be the TRUTH!!!

      • cr747

        p-a-r-a-n-o-i-a HUSSEIN OBAMA’S APPROVAL RATING AT THE LOWEST IN MANY, MANY PRESIDENTS IN THEIR FIRST YEAR IN DECEMBER 47%. COMPARED TO BUSH’S 86% IN HIS FIRST YEAR IN DECEMBER. WHAT A LOUSY PRESIDENT WE HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. ONLY A FEW MORE MONTH’S TO GO. HE’S ALREADY STRUCK OUT WITH 3 STRIKES IN ALL NINE INNINGS. MERRY CHRISTMAS HO-HO-HO-HO-HO-!!!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I think that it makes sense. That is if a war “with” Iran is your real goal! America needs to develop a “slogan” (remember pearl harbor, etc., etc.) before it can go to war and apparently they ((our politicians (all the same, regardless of party affiliation)need one to create this “New World Order!”

    • eyeswideopen

      Victor, you got the wrong, guy, it was Palin, on Hannity, who was talking about going to war with Iran. OOps, that’s right she had Iraq and Iran confused. Or not!!!!

      • Joe H.

        Eyes,
        That’s o.k., we all know you only wish you were as smart as her!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe, if I were that dumb, I would keep my mouth shut. I at least know that the VP doesn’t write legislation. I also know the difference in Iraq a Iran., and I can see Cuba from my house.. LMAO

          • cr747

            Eyes, then you need to keep your mouth shut. Palin makes you sound like a first grader

  • Henry

    This corrupt administration is paying back the left wing Bush haters by this trick.obama is no president, hes a puppet of acorn, soros and America haters like him.This possibly could turn into a huge terrorist action, but no worry Bush will get blamed by ob’s minions. This country is on the brink, and we may loose it

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Sorry, but President Bush followed the same “New World Order” agenda as President Obama has!

      • s c

        Let me get this straight, VLB. GB and BO are OK because they did the same things, or they’re not good because they did the same things? BO is better than GB? There seems to be a difference between what you say and what you mean.
        Just what is it that you’re trying to say? It is very confusing when people try to mix political ‘apples and oranges.’

    • denniso

      Henry..how in hell does trying this guy in NY pay back the Bush haters? NO SENSE!!!

      • Michael J.

        Denniso, KSM and party will claim and complain of being water boarded among other things.Then the LSM will put Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, the CIA, America, The flag and yo mama on trial and the America haters (like you) will have a collective orgasm while the remaining 80% of the population will be stuck with changing the soiled sheets.

        • Joe H.

          Michael J,
          Not QUITE the way I would have said it but WELL SAID!!!!

        • denniso

          Michael…DON’T call me an America hater!! What I HATE are the people who are trying to wreck MY country and send it back to the dark ages. The bigots,racists,sexists,warmongers,environmental rapists,the greedy fatcats who brought about the recession,and in general, the truly stupid people who are dangerous in their very stupidity!!

          • Joe H.

            dennislobber,
            I don’t understand why you hate yourself so much!!!

          • denniso

            Too clever JoeH!

  • Robin from Indiana

    The President making the comments he did is only going to help the defense team. They need to leave them at Gitmo. I do not understand why Gitmo needs to be closed in the first place. The trial should not take place in New York. I cannot imagine how devastated the families who lost loved ones must be. And if he is found ‘not guilty’, are they going to release him in New York? This is going to be a three ring circus. All the blame will go to President Bush. Muslims do not have the same beliefs we do. We do not need him any closer than he already is.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Let me guess, President Obama was raised in Islam and then converted into a “hate white” christian for 23 years in Chicago under the Reverent Wright to become president, or was that wrong? It’s not about religion, believe me, it’s only about the “new world order” under the first messiah, Lucifer (coming in his own name)!

      • Greg

        I think that anyone who does not see that Obama is not for America is so nieve that they should not be allowed to vote. These people who voted for him did so because the left wing media would not tell you anything bad about him. He came out of nowhere and he is spending us into oblivion and everything he is doing is to get control of the stupid american people who think this guy is looking out for you.. I bet you also think Al Gore is smarter than the scientist who disagree with him and his agenda to make us all pay more taxes and make him and the elite richer. Wake up now or it will be too late!!

        • Joe H.

          Robin,
          If they release these creeps in NYC, I don’t want to be there when they do!!!! Talk about riots in the streets!!! I don’t think the police would work too hard to stop it!!! I wouldn’t give a plug nickle for the terrorists lives!!!!!

        • denniso

          Sorry Greg, but you sound like you should take your own advice and not vote. You really need to do some serious educating of yourself.

          • Joe H.

            Why shouldn’t he vote? They lowered the standard low enough for you!!!

          • Michael J.

            Denniso, You mean indoctrinate, not educate, right?

          • denniso

            NO,Michael J…I mean educate! Read his comment and tell me he doesn’t need to go back to school.

          • Joe H.

            Not half as much as YOU!!!!

  • s c

    This prez smiles at an abortion, and yet has no use for the death penalty for adults. And now he’s going to reverse himself and expect us to believe that a known terorist will get the death penalty?
    Something stinks here, folks. Comrade obama is trying to revise history – again. He definitely picked a ‘winner’ when
    he chose Holder for AG (or was he coerced?). Holder, if you remember, helped bubba clinton free Puero Rican terrorists. And now, we’re supposed to think Holder will do the right thing, and do to this jerk that which would never have happened with the PR bunch.
    Eiher this administration suffers from chronic selective memory, or they’re assuming that they can’t be held accountable for being off-the-chart when it comes to utter stupidity. I’m betting that the best comrade obama can do is the wrong thing thing at the wrong time for the wrong reason.
    Yep, we’ve got a real winner here, and America loses AGAIN.

    • Joe H.

      s c,
      these left wingers need to remember that the AQ DID declare war on us a few years back. That makes them enemy combatants!!!

      • denniso

        Joe H…it’s only a legal distinction, and enemy combatants go free after a war is over..criminals go to jail. You want the AQ foot soldiers to go free??

        • Joe H.

          If this president has his way they will still go free so whats the diff?

          • denniso

            JoeH..you continue to exhibit your blind ignorance!! Because you hate your president you think it follows logically that he wants to set the terrorists free,since you hate the terrorists. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way..that’s more like 3rd grade illogic.

          • Joe H.

            Why? Because you are too blind to see the truth???

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            do you mean by that post that you DON’T hate the terrorists?

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      All good points, but don’t be deceived because all politicians are the same, but those who become presidents know more stuff! It’s Mason stuff. Did you know that Jimmy Carter also had to become a Mason in 1972 to become president? In these latter times, the Bush father and son combo set up this three-ring-circus in the first place! This nonsense is all met to create a world war with Islam to be followed by the New World Order! Are you listening Iran? I think time will prove this, but it will not in another 2000 years!

      • Jana

        Vic.
        Sadly all politicians do seem to get corrupt after awhile. They are more worried about their careers than what is best for our country. That is why I think we need term limits, short term limits at that.

        That is the ending of where we even start to agree. In the first place, no one has to do anything to create a war with Islam. They have their own agenda. Islam is much much more than a religion, it is a total political system, that dictates to them even how to go to the bathroom. Mohammad was a delusional individual who heard from the Arch Angel Gabriel on a regular basis. He decided that God was calling him to become His avenger. The only problem was Mohammad was listening to the wrong god, a false god. 3 guesses as to who that was.
        We do not have to do anything but exist and not serve Islam for them to want to kill us. They want us dead and will do anything including lie to us as according to the Qu’ran it is ok to lie to the infidel which is you and me and all of us, and murder us. They would call it an honor killing.

        As for being a conspiracy theorist I will leave that up to you as I am not one.

      • Joe H.

        Vic,
        I’m only going to say this one more time. My father was a mason for over 50 years. He was not rich, famous, an important man, or any of the things you are trying to say. He was a deacon in the First Church OF Christ in Adrian Mich. And was a very devout Christian. You mason haters are so full of bull it isn’t funny. Like the story that you worked with a guy that told you that masons had to accept satan as their king before you could join. I’m dam sure that guy was a REAL good member!!!! If you believe this CRAP you are so stupid you shouldn’t be voting for school crossing guard!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe, how does it feel to have to defend someone who was a Christian and the Conservatives think is not? You unfortunately are experiencing what the conspiracy rt wing radicals consider the take over of the world by the “New Order”, which consists of the Mason’s. I feel for you, as I have known many fine Mason’s who were true Christians and actually practiced what Jesus taught. Just ignore them, as pseduo Christians will eventually be found out.

          • Joe H.

            hey eyes,
            I don’t need your help or understanding!!!! this guy is NOT a conservative!!!! He’s from mars or some other planet! this stupid theory started way back in the times of the civil war!!!! It’s crap and I don’t care how many masons you know lady!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, you just don’t know how many nuts are out there that believe the Mason’s are going to take over the world do you? You should do some research dude, you will be very dismayed at the threat the Mason’s poise.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes, I have probably done more research on the subject than you, as I did a paper on it in college and received a VERY good grade!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, you don’t read very well do you? I said to research those who think the Mason’s are a threat, not research the Mason’s. Lord, no wonder we are in trouble. Glad to know that you received a good grade on your paper. Most have been asset to have an intimate associate of the Mason’s at your disposal.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            Seeing as I was 25 at the time, I didn’t use my father at all and Gee ladt I had to do it the hard way….No snopes, matter of fact, no computers at all! See lady I don’t depend on others to do my work for me like the liberalites!!! And please don’t waste the web space to tell me you’re a republican!!! You are a republican like I’m the ruler of the free world!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, you still missed the point, that people think the Mason’s will be the ones who will be ruling the New World Order. You take offense to remarks that aren’t meant to be that way. Paranoia is becoming a way of life for some.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            No I didn’t miss the point. I included quite a bit in my paper as a good paper includes all aspects of a subject or all that you can find!!! For instance quite a few of the western writers have included the mason conspiracy theory in their books Louis L’Amour mentions them inone of his books set in the time of the Indian wars!!!

        • Michael J.

          Joe H. I am not a Mason hater but I know that their are degrees of Masonry. 33 being the highest, you can rest assured that the newcomers are not privy to any sensitive information or long term goals. It was not always that way however. Apparently prior to the turn of the 19th century all members new and old shared the knowledge of the ancients until one man whose name I can not recall decided to spill the beans and cash in by writing a book on the subject. That man was murdered and the accused murderers were put on trial. Mason membership dropped of sharply for the next half century until another Mason whose name I can not remember came along to lead the Mason’s and introduce the degrees of Masonry as we know them today. This tactic is nothing new and has been used by governments and corporations. You can not reveal that which you do not know.

          • Joe H.

            Michael,
            that theory has been batted around since BEFORE the turn of the century!!! Matter of fact it was a wives tale that they started WW!,WW2 And the war between the states. Dam I wish I knew my father had so much power!!! He was a mason for over 50 years!!! but he was also deacon at our church in Adrian Michigan!!!

        • Claire

          Joe H—my husband is a 32nd Degree Mason. His father was a Mason, and so is his brother. Me, I’m a Lutheran and so are my kids. My son is not in the Masons. I don’t know why, but he never pursued being a Mason.

          • Joe H.

            Claire,
            don’t let inbreds make you ashamed of your husband and father-in-laws membership. They do nothing wrong!!!

  • J. David Griffin, Jr.

    Nothing this President does to the detriment of the United States is a surprise. The real surprise was when United States Citizens went to the polls and elected the First Communist President of the Untied States.

    Obama is on record stating his pride in this Islamic upbringing, the years he lived in Muslim lands and attended Muslim Schools.

    He has surrounded himself with Socialist and Communist, several publicly stating their Socialist or Communist beliefs.

    The 3000 United States Citizens and their Families and Friends, the damage to the US economy all are unimportant to this Communist, but the insuring of the “Rights” of the Terrorist that want to kill Americans and help in the downfall of the United States is very important to Comrade Obama.

  • http://prothink.org the patriot

    when do you think we americans will arrest and try the real culprits of terror. can you say MOSSAD !!!!!!!!!!!yes wake up people we are being played for fools by zionists/jews/israelis

    • The Iron Cross

      the patriot,

      I agree, no one checks out Isreal.They have been caught a number of times spying.

      • Joe H.

        Iron Cross,
        Good name for one so worried about spying!!!! Every country in the world almost has been caught spying at one time or another. you don’t wear a head wrap or robes do you???

        • Joe H.

          Iron Cross,
          If it’s the Jewish that are the problem, then how do you explain the American Jews that fought and died in WW2, Korea, Viet Nam, And every action the U.S. has ever fought? Even the Mexican War. I believe I even remember one at the Alamo!!!

          • The Iron Cross

            Joeh,

            Remember Lenin,Trotsky,Bela Kun,and Stalin.They were the greatest mass murders in history.Three of them were Jews,the fourth man they’re still debating it.You got the Rosenbers,the founder of the American Communist Party,Albert Einstein,J.Robert Oppenheimer and the infamous communist spy ring.The scientist J.Robert Oppenheimer had to be ta off sensitive defense projects,he wanted to share atomic secrets with the Soviet Union and how about the Rosenbergs? They were excuted in 1953.Albert Einstein was another one who was under government surveilance.Menachem Begin said lenin was the greatest defender of worker’s rights.I think he was the Prime minister of Isreal.You said Jews.Did I mention Jews in the earlier post?Stop junping to conclusions.People could call you a silly jack ass.

          • Joe H.

            Iron Cross,
            you deny you said anything about the Jewish? and who do you think live in Israel???? Don’t be dumb!!!

      • Jana

        Pat Israel is a small country. The ME cannot stand for Israel to even have the small piece of land they have. They have many many enemies including you. They better be doing a little spying.
        Their lives depend on it.

  • Richard Pawley

    There are many common sense reasons why this show trial should not be held in NYC. I hope this is not true, but it almost seems as if someone wants another attack on NYC and this will likely insure that it happens. Only polite well written letters to your Senators and members of the House can stop this, and while you are at it, tell them not to raise taxes, the VAT (Value Added Tax)and the 76+ other taxes hidden in the so-called Health Care Reform Bill. The Democrats would love the VAT and the Republicans would not object to as it would bring in tons of money and make everything Americans make and buy truly more more expensive. All the socialist countries have this VAT so Pelosi-Reid have determined we need it too. Chain emails do nothing but well written letters to your Senator might. Every person who votes to destroy the USA as Congress seems hell-bent on doing by spending us into oblivion so we will be reduced in statue as a country needs to be thrown out of office next year. Watch them carefully and how they vote and then do what you can to stop this insane spending which is ALREADY going to cause over 200% inflation unless they can increase our taxes tremendously. If our nation was a company it would already have filed for bankruptcy long ago. It is up to us as they are not going to resign. What we need is new blood in Washington, a president and Congress who are not composed of Ivy-League Lawyers, but are real people.

    • denniso

      Richard…are you drunk or just out of your mind? You actually think someone wants another attack on NYC? CRAAAAZY!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        denniso, they actually would welcome an attack, as they think that would bring Obama down. The hatred is so strong that a few more lives wouldn’t bother them.

        • Joe H.

          Eyes,
          That has to be the most STUPID remark you have made here!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, you need to read your cohorts posts with more clarity than you have been. I have been here for four months, reading how they are going to march on DC, attack the Senate bldg, and get rid of all the Democrats, hang Obama and his wife, leaving the children with no parents. So, after reading and absorbing the intense hatred for Obama, it is apparent that an attack would be welcomed by the radical right wingers. Don’t believe me, just check out how many more threats this President has received vs all the others, it has gone up by 400%. Definately says something doesn’t it??

          • Joe H.

            Bob Livingston,
            this is real good, I get words removed for using the same words denniso uses???? I call him crazy and get it removed and he does it and nothing?

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, Bob, removed a link I posted as it wasn’t too flatering for Bush. He is just excersing his ownership rights of censorship. At least he is being non-partisan. lol

          • cr747

            Eyes, As I said in another comment, Obama caused all the threats with his LOOSE mouth. One is about the WHITE policeman doing his job, and the sick professor mouthing obscenities about the police mans Mother.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            I hate to tell you but two of the things you mentioned aren’t illegal last time I checked. It is not illegal to march on Washington, and as much as you might hate it, it would not be illegal to get rid of all the Dems. Expedient maybe, but illegal no!!!

          • denniso

            cr747…’Obama caused the threats w/ his loose talk’?? So, if Obama,as president,speaks and debates and leads, then the violence loving gun-nuts are justified in threatening and maybe shooting him because he drove them to it w/his talk? That is idiotic!!! It sounds like the people who used to defend wife beaters by saying their husbands drove them to it. That is plainly stupid and I find it hard to believe that you’re a lawyer if you can say something like that.

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            not that I agree with threats on ANY president, But I haven’t heard him DEBATE anything!!! I’ve heard him read from a tele-prompter!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, what President has debated anything in recent years? You are living in a fantasy world. Somebody should tell you that they don’t have to debate after they win the election.

  • ONTIME

    If BOzo and his henchman Holder have already prejudiced the Khalidi case by their statements about his guilt and the penalty, then why have a civilian court trial? Khalidi has alredy confessed to this crime, having a military trail would be more in line with proceeding but BOzo and Little Eric need to show all how they can act out of pure ignorance to give the clown Khalidi a soapbox, blame someone else for their ignorance and make a mes of the intelligence systems.

    If Bozo was not a American could he not do more damage as a traitor?

  • bruce

    obama, the commie traitor, is the enemy who should be on trial for treason.followed by a quick hanging.

    • denniso

      Bruce…that sounds very much like a threat on the life of the president. I assume you’re smart enough to know that’s against the law? Maybe? Can you imagine that people might monitor sites like this for just that kind of comment?? You better control that inner rage against the smartest president we’ve had in decades. You can’t handle that,can you?

      • BOE

        Denniso…..who do you think would be monitoring the site? The government? Obama? And you are stupid enough to call him the smartist president? He must have a lot of time on his hands to monitoring sites. Freedom of speech….let me think…isn`t there some old paper that states we can be assured of that freedom? Or is that just another our smart mack-daddy president is taking from us?

        • BOE

          oh I forgot…he did not make a direct threat..

        • Joe H.

          dennisobber,
          yeah smartest when it comes to hiding his past, smartest at covering his tracks, smartest at trashing the constitution!!! Smartest at destroying the United States!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          BOE, (words removed for offensive content), it is the FBI that monitors these sites. Hey, maybe just some poster with ethics would turn you in. You, just never know, do you? LMAO

          • Joe H.

            Boe, Perhaps you have already been turned in!!! I did with Bob for using the word idiot when denniso has used it at least a few times and not had it removed and I believe eyes has used it a few too.

          • eyeswideopen

            I said, don’t be stupid. Nothing offensive was said. I didn’t even call him stupid, just said don’t be stupid. Oh boy, this is gonna be fun now….lol

          • cr747

            eyes, try the CIA.!!!!!!!!

          • libertytrain

            eyes – your insecurity is showing – there’s not much censoring on this site – whatever did you really say?

          • libertytrain

            Joe H – you are a lovely man – just think how many comments there are on this site and perhaps it’s just some are missed – or it’s all in how things are said – I wouldn’t worry about it – you don’t want to sound like the insecure eyes.

          • eyeswideopen

            Nay, let’s not have one of yours acting the same as the enemy. God forbid. You trying to cover him, just makes it more obvious. lol… you are a funny girl.

        • Joe H.

          Libertytrain,
          I’m not paranoid!! I just don’t like it when I say the truth and have it dropped for a word like idiot!!! dennislobber and eyes can say the same exact about us and it gets by when it’s put in B.S. six foot deep, which as you know is about everything they post!!!

          • libertytrain

            Joe – I know you aren’t – I just think people think there’s some person out there picking and choosing – when there’s probably a staff just scanning – this site is so popular – there are a million posts!

          • eyeswideopen

            Bob, is only treating you the same as everyone else. Censorship is his right. Pull your big boy pants up and let’s start beating the crap out of each other again. lol….lol…

      • Michael J.

        Denniso, aren’t you that monitor?

        • eyeswideopen

          Michael, nay, why would he warn you? Most of the monitors like to make a quick strike and take you out, before you know what has happened. LOL….lol….

        • denniso

          And you know, that’s the great thing about this web stuff…you just never know,do you? The same anonymity that allows people to be rude and insulting to complete strangers allows for anyone to monitor anywhere..right??

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            I’m not worried about you. You haven’t the brains to be a monitor, human or lizard!!!

  • Warrior

    Just for entertainment after the speech last night, I turned on MSNBC to see reaction. Watching Matthews, Maddow and Oberdope comments was priceless. They acted like someone killed to puppy. See – there is a sliver of silver lining in each dark cloud.

    • eyeswideopen

      Warrior, I know, the President did something that should have made all the war mongering Republicans happy. But it didn’t as he doesn’t want us to stay there forever. Why aren’t you happy, he did exactly what he said he would do, during his election campagin. You Republicans should be jumping for joy, as we are staying, and it will cost us even more money. Oh, Joy, looks more like the same Bush crap.Bush and Cheney’s plan was so good that we are still there aren’t we?

      • Joe H.

        Eyes,
        If your husband and kid were killed in action then you of all people should know that the last thing you do is announce a withdrawal date!!! He only went to the “not etched in stone” tripe after he started getting reamed by people!!!! Even Leiberman is giving him grief over it!! I even saw a spec. 4 say it was not wise on the news reports today!!! A few of the commanders were questioning the fact that it would be possibly July 2010 before they get there!!!!!!

        • Jana

          Joe, not only that, but he lied to everyone AGAIN.
          He made reference that in the past when the Generals needed more troops in the field in Afghanistan that they didn’t get them. Rumsfeld came out today and said that was not true, that the Generals got what they asked for. Also, that Pres. Bush was in contact with his Generals on a daily basis where Obama on a very less often basis, such as possible once a month? Some Commander in Chief.

        • denniso

          Joe H…Obama is trying to force Afghanistan to take responsibility for their country. Telling them that we won’t stay there indefinitely while stepping up our commitment,after Bush let the war simmer for yrs. Do you realize we’ve been there for 8 yrs? Do you think we should stay forever? Besides,Gates has already said that it’s a plan and circumstances will dictate our actions in a yr.
          Don’t you think Bush bears any responsibility for not dealing w/ the war and finishing it? Oh, he’s a repub,that’s right..never did anything wrong.You also don’t care that it’s cost 1/2 a billion $$ and counting..it should have been over by now!

          • denniso

            The war has cost 1/2 trillion, not billion. That’s half the projected cost for healthcare reform over 10 yrs. You’ve been screaming about that cost.

          • eyeswideopen

            denniso, sorry, the cost of Iraq war is 1 trillion and Afghan is 264 billion, as of today. You are using outdated info. Just thought you would like the real totals even though it makes it worse. lol.

          • cr747

            No sense in worrying about the cost, you need to worry about the lives of the ones OBAMA are sending over there. Course he cares less about the men and women who are killed. He didn’t even visit the ones injured in Fort Hood. He sent his aids in to check on some of them. Bush went the day after and visited each one that was injured by one of Obamas Muslims. Face the facts.!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way Obama did stand at the door and WAVE at them.

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747.(words removed for offensive content) Obama and his wife, personally visited each and every one in person. Guess what, Bush ran in to visit, without clearing it and the Secret Service was not set up to handle a ex president and a sitting President in the same location on such short notice. You people come to the dumbest conclusions I have ever heard. Think people, use your brains.

          • cr747

            eyes, At least I have a brain to think with. Must be miserable not to have one.

          • cr747

            eyes, Think I know I just happen to be there. I spent 10 days with some of them for business purpose. Thank You!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            eyes, Oh by the way George W was cleared. Took care of it myself.

          • eyeswideopen

            CR747. then you know they didn’t have a plan for both of them to be there at same time. If you are in security, why are you on this site? I know for fact that it isn’t allowed for anyone with top security clearance to be on a chat site. Which it was illegal for you to announce that you took care of the clearance. No one with that kind of clearance would put their career in jeopardy, or risk a security breach by letting people all over the country and possibly the world know that he has top security clr. You do know that info would be valuable to our enemies don’t you? I think you are telling one huge fib, just like Berb did when he said he had a Ph.D. You can recover by saying you were just joking like Berb did.

          • cr747

            No problem, that happen almost two month’s ago.

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe, tell me the difference in announcing a withdrawal date for Iraq but not Afghanistan? You are not using logic. I don’t think a Spec 4, is the experience level and knowledge level I would be looking for to base a sound judgement on. McChrystal got almost what he asked for, Obama, couldn’t give him the 40k as that is all we have left. He had to hold 10k back just in case something else happened. But he had sent 17K earlier in March. Our whole war strategy for both countries has been broadcast in the news since we first declared war. The Senators are the big mouths and even made mistakes when using twitter, which let the enemy know exactly where they were located. Surely you remember that stupid faux pax don’t you? Can’t stand it that the Pres. did exactly what his generals asked for can you?

          • Joe H.

            Yeah I do remember and I also remember your hero O-man pitching a fit about having to give up his blackberry!!!! Oh, I know that’s different, the enemy couldn’t possibly monitor that!!!!

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            I think even the spec 4 knows a little more about the ground situation over there than YOU do. And the commanders that I mentioned and you so cleverly ignored know a LOT more than you or your alter ego dennisobber!!!

          • Joe H.

            eyes,
            Oh, and by the way those troops he sent in march? they were support troops not combat specialists!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, yes that spec 4. gets briefed more than the President and Sec. Gates and the rest of the pentagon. You are crazy…..

          • Joe H.

            Gee there’s another…Crazy!!! no eyes but he has to live it day by day when O-man sits safely in his office day by day. Oh, and those Generals and staff? They don’t even get their boots dirty!!! they’re just green clothed politicians!!!

          • cr747

            eyes, Sorry to disappoint you, but the prez,”as you say,” got a little huffy, and was put in his place. He was lost as a goose. You are reading to many comic books.!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            Browneyes,
            Care to address the commanders?!?!? Don’t think they “know” anything either???

        • Joe H.

          dennislobber,
          I see even your alter ego is correcting your B.S. now!!! You must feel mighty lonely about now!!!!

          • denniso

            You miss the point,JoeH..I was talking about all the money wasted on the wars,EYO only said it’s more than I stated,which makes my case even stronger that you whiners aren’t complaining about that financial boondoggle. You and othere here,I guess, don’t care how long the wars go on or how many kids we lose there or how many trillions we burn through. Is that because it’s about war and not healthcare or the economy or peace??

          • Joe H.

            no it just shows that you don’t know what you are talking about!!! Or you took it out of context after a quick glance to find what you wanted it to say!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            denniso, you used the info, just like I knew you would. But these oafs don’t even get it….. clueless…. Did you see cr747 lying about doing clearance? Sure, he doesn’t realize that almost everyone knows you are restricted from participating in chat rooms for the very reason that’s how security breaches come about…. bragging. LMAO takes all kinds.

  • http://Verizon.net Joe Dunst

    The President lacks “street smarts” when it comes to Americas’ enemies. Which side is he on? I think the people that elected him will
    regret how they voted…especially when they see how their federal taxes increased. We are no longer a strong nation with a sound economy -God help US.

    • eyeswideopen

      Joe Dunst, if you don’t by this time understand what happened to our economy, then, yes, God help us, from people such as you, who refuse to read or comprehend what has transpired.

      • Joe H.

        Eyes,
        have someone there pat your tummy for awhile you’re getting huffy!!!

    • denniso

      Joe…so everything was fine under Bush and it’s all gone to hell in 10 months?? Bush was in power for 8 freaking yrs and yet he had nothing to do w/ the economic crash and it’s all Obama’s fault?? You need to quit watching Fox news..you’re swallowing lies and regurgitating stupidity.

      • Joe H.

        gee Bob there’s another….. stupidity!!!

    • BOE

      Joe the people that voted for him do not work or pay taxes. They are on welfare . As they saying goes “they gets a check”.

      • Joe H.

        Boe,
        Yeah, I remember Trivisonno here in Cleveland trying to explain to a guy where his check comes from and it was hilarious. he asked the guy “Where do you think that check comes from?” The jerk answered “My mailbox!!!!” He also admitted he voted for O-man!!!! That’s the kind that voted for him!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        BOE, first you all say that the Dems own everything, run everything and then you say they don’t work or pay taxes, could you please make up your mind on which way it is? LMAO,,,,,,LOL….LOL….. You right wingers are so confused………………

        • cr747

          eyes, you have LMAO and LOL, & LOL so much, Do you still have an ARSE to laugh off?

        • Joe H.

          Eyes,
          Careful there if you keep LYAO you might not have any to set on!!! Course I don’t know how big it is so you might be able to LYAO for the next ten or twenty years!!!

          • coal miner

            JoeH,

            Why don’t you take your foul mouth out to the barn yard and wash it out with clorox. DO You always call people liars?

          • denniso

            JoeH is nothing if not crude and foul mouthed. Of course it stems from the weakness of his ‘arguments’,so he can only lash out in anger at people here or the president. Maybe a little insecure about his intellect??

          • Joe H.

            coal minor,
            ONLY WHEN THEY LIE!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            OR DON”T HAVE THE BRAINS TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!

      • Claire

        Boe: I happen to know a lot of people that voted for Obama. They are not on welfare. They work and pay taxes. They are my friends. Some are elderly, mostly White, middle-aged, younger, and they are good people. They voted for Obama because they believe he was the best choice. We all have choices in this world, voting happens to be one of them. I will never ridicule them for voting for Obama.

        • eyeswideopen

          Claire, I am just happy that people don’t beat me up for voting to put Bush in the white house. Big mistake on my part, and I will take responsibility for the total chaos that occurred.

          • Claire

            Eyes—well, here goes. How do you think I feel? I voted for him too.

          • cr747

            So did I. Best move I have ever made. Would do it all over again. I am a DEMOCRAT also.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • denniso

            Eyes and Claire…thanks for admitting to your mistake. You know, it’s not just your fault..the supposedly ‘liberal’ media did a lousy job of telling us who Bush really was..I didn’t vote for him,luckily, but I didn’t think he was as bad as he actually turned out to be.

          • Joe H.

            Denniso, But I’ll bet you voted for GORE didn’t you? you know, the guy that claims to have invented the internet, started the whole bull crap story about gorebull warming, made millions off gullible people a lot like JIM and TAMMY BAKKER!!!! But that’s o.k. we know you’re gullible. (Take that out I don’t care, its true!!!!)

  • David

    The ersatz prez, 0-(as in “zero”) bomb didn’t make that comment out of stupidity. We’ve already kicked one terrorist from the USS Cole bombing loose. He made this precisely so that the defense could file a “motion to dismiss” for prejudice & more terrorists can walk. You have to remember that the 0-bombs (BO & his ho’) are 3 things:
    1.) Muslims
    2.) America haters
    3.) NWO monkey sock puppets

    • Claire

      David:

      Help me with this. Exactly who was in charge when the terrorist involved with the USS Cole was set free?

      • Claire

        No reply to this?

  • Jana

    I wholeheartedly agree with Cheney on this. It is wrong to bring this man to the United states and treat him like a citizen of this country.

    Who was he fighting when he was captured?? A. The military.
    Who captured him?? A. The military.

    He should have a military trial. This man classified himself as a soldier, so he should be put on trial like one.

    To say they don’t have a uniform is ludicrous as they wear their colors just like gangs do. That is how our military can identify them.

    • Joe H.

      Jana,
      You left out one question. Who declared war a few years ago? this guys leadership!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        Joe, what in the heck are you saying? Are you saying that the Democrats declared war on the terrorists, or Iraq?

        • Joe H.

          Eyes,
          II guess you have to be led around by the hand so here goes….AQ greenie!!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Jana, the terrorists are not soldiers, they are civilian terrorists. They do not represent the Afghanistan government, were never a part of the government and weren’t even Afghanistan citizens. Why would you want to treat them like they were soldiers? They are common civilian criminals. A military tribunal tries soldiers. If you declare those terrorists as soldiers and then ask other countries to enter their country to capture more terrorists, in effect you are declaring war upon that country you are entering. If it was ok to have civilian trials for 195 other terrorists, why is it now objectionable?

      • Joe H.

        Here we go again eyes……AQ declared war through bin lala a few years agto!!!!!! got it greenie?????

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe, let me be the first to tell you that Bin Laden was not president of any country. He had no authority to declare war on anybody. He is a common criminal. When you are not an official of a country, who has the authority to declare war you are not recognized by any of the world countries. How hot is your hand getting so close to the fire? I know you are not ignorant of the international laws, so why would you take such a stand? Using your thinking, any nut case from here, could declare war on another country and be considered a soldier?

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            They are a group that has cells in almost every country in the world. if you don’t call that a standing army then you are due for a very rude awakening!!!! A very rude awakening indeed!!!

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            let me get this straight…If I go around the world and organize an army of say 300,000 troops and attack the U.S. on their own territory with rockets, tanks, even planes I’m not a soldier, I’m a criminal right? Is that what you are saying? Ah, so if in secrecy say China gets up a large force and and attacks us and is defeated they are just criminals and have to be tried in civilian court as they weren’t operating under orders of China. Do you think that would happen? Do you really think that would happen?? Green water is right!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, what country will you be representing with your 300k? If you don’t have a country, you cannot be considered a soldier. Did you pass grade school?

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            Have you ever heard of soldiers of fortune? They only represent themselves and a lot have been tried as soldiers or just shot as spies!!!

          • denniso

            No JoeH, they sign up w/ real armies,for money..hence the term,’fortune’. They don’t just run around fighting anybody for the fun of it. Blackwater is essentially soldiers of fortune..who pays them? the U.S. military.

        • Joe H.

          Brown EYES,
          I see you ignored the part about Russia!!! very slick!!!!

          • Joe H.

            Excuse me I meant China!!!

      • Jana

        Eyes, that’s not what they say. They say they are soldiers. I believe them.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jana, What countries army do they represent? Are you saying that you will believe what the terrorists are claiming? How naive are you? You are aware that no countries have acknowledged or claimed that they are part of an official army aren’t you? They are just civilian terrorists nothing more. People like you who want to believe they are soldiers do a dis-service to real soldiers who represent their countries. The world needs to view them as common criminals, why would you try and elevate their status?

          • cr747

            Why are they in a military prison, and being guarded by military soldiers?????

          • denniso

            EYES is right…the terrorists want the world to think of them as soldiers since soldiers have credibility fighting for their country. These guys are playing into their hands by calling them what they want to be called. You’re right that they are only low life criminals who have big $$ backing them.

          • Joe H.

            yeah and some of those “big bucks” come from COUNTRIES!!!!

      • denniso

        EYO…it’s now objectionable because we have a dem and black man as president. If this were happening under a repub these people would be taking the exact opposite side. Hypocrites.

        • eyeswideopen

          denniso, they are upset as he gave them what they wanted. More troops, they are also upset as they can’t have a war with no end in sight. Funny how Cheney was condemning him prior to even knowning what his decision was. Even funnier was Rove, who stated that they had defeated the Taliban in 57 days and it took Obama 80 to make a decision. If they defeated the taliban in 57 days, why have we had to stay for eight years? Who are we fighting the virgins? They are so determined to blast Obama, they don’t think before speaking. Even funniest, McChrystal asked to have the increase of troops for 2010. Which he is going to get in 2010. Hypocrite is now the Repubs alternate name. After keeping the trillion dollar cost for Iraq and the 264 billion cost for Afghan out of the budgets and unfunded for eight years, they now want to talk about the cost of increasing the troops….LMAO seriously these people need to stop the drugs, as the kids are watching and will be asking questions that they don’t want to answer. Like why was it ok, for your party to do such and such but you don’t want the other party to do the same thing?

          • BOE

            Eyes..you can say what you want about Bush…but the last 7 years after 9/11 no terrorist attack on our soil. He kept us safe. Obama..in office 10 months..a terror attack on a military base. Yeah he jumped and called the white cop “acted stupidly”. But a muslim kills 14 and he says “let`s get all the facts”. Lady ..if you can not see that the man hates white people,hates this country,and is a terrorist sympathatizer ..well what can I say..you are the idiot.

          • cr747

            BOE, you have to look over eyes, she is a little dense between the ears. Look over denniso to, he speaks with forked tounge. The three of them are a lot a like. OH I forgot to mention the third one O-BAM-BAM. He has to ask SLICK WILLY, “WHICH COULD BE THE FOURTH ONE” what steps to take next. Of course they all BLAME Bush and Cheney, who was the best President we’ve had since Ronald Regan. BY the way I am a DEMOCRAT TO.

          • eyeswideopen

            BOE, you are not logical. That was a US citizen, it was like when Timoty Mc Veigh attacked the Fed bldg in OKC. Do you remember that??? If you people can’t find something to attack Obama on, you will manufacture things…..Holy crap, this country will be going down, but not because we have a black President, but because of people like you who are so limited in your ability to think that no positive changes can occur.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes,
            now who’s bringing up race?

          • denniso

            BOE…another bad joke!!!’Bush kept us safe ater 9/11′???
            9/11 happened on Bush/cheny’s watch!! He invaded Iraq,which had nothing to do w/ 9/11, and murdered 100,000 or more civilians and in the process killed 4500 of our kids and maimed another 80,000 or more, AND blew what will be a TRILLION $$ on the war before it’s over. We sadly lost almost 3000 citizens in 9/11. Do the math dude. If you call that protecting us, you need help w/ your logic circuits.

          • cr747

            Well denniso. If I remember right, Obama said many, many times while running for president,”QUOTE” I WILL HAVE ALL SOLDIERS HOME IN, “60 DAYS”? Yes I believe it was 60 days. No,”I know it was 60 days.” McCain said then, “QUOTE” No there is no way. WELL WELL WELL wonder what happen?

          • cr747

            By the way if I make some type-o’s. I am in turbulent weather headed to the Philippines. Sorry.!!!!!!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            cr747,
            He also kept saying during his run for prez that Afghanistan was the real true war. Yet dennislobber and browneyes keeps saying it’s all Bushes fault we are there!!! Go figure!!!

          • denniso

            Wrong again JoeH…Bush should have focused on Afghanistan and FINISHED IT..instead, he lied and illegally invaded a country that had nothing to do w/ 9/11 and spread our military and soldiers and $$ too thinly and now after 8 freaking yrs we’re still in Afghanistan. That’s the shame of what he did, and too many kids still dying and suffering for his incompetence!!

          • Joe H.

            dennislobber,
            I got news for you. Those men and women you call “kids” are more of a man that you will EVER be!!!! Give them the respect they deserve and call them what they are!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, another breach of security.???.. please don’t tell us where you are going, cause if you are in military and in security, I don’t want anyone to know how lax and stupid we really are by having our personell announce to the world that he does security clearance and then notifies us where he is going on his mission. Please check your mouth and brain.

          • cr747

            Eyes, you took the bait hook line and sinker. I wasn’t headed for the Philippines, I was headed to my ranch in Texas for a couple of days before going to my home in Hawaii for a little R&R. Nothing illegal for me. I’m only a lawyer retired after 22 years as a fighter pilot in Vietnam. I do private work, and my wife don’t even know where I’m going when I fly out.

        • Joe H.

          dennisobber,
          I was against the stated withdrawal date when Bush announced it in Iraq. If you want to set a date you don’t go announcing it to the world!! If you weren’t still in diapers you should remember what happened to our troops when they started to withdraw from RVN. They were subjected to harassment fire all the way!!! The enemy became emboldened and took over every plot of land we left!!!! Don’t be an idiot!!!!

          • Joe H.

            dennisobber,
            I noticed you brought out the libber stand by again RACISM!!!!!

          • cr747

            Joe H, It’s alright for EYES and DENNISO MENACE to use that word. They don’t remember to well. Kind of DENSE or is it just WACKO.!!!!!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            dennislobber,
            Let me splain’ something to you!!! I don’t care if the man is black, white, pink, Or purple for that matter!!! the only thing I don’t want is a Muslim president as he would have to follow his koran and it states he has to jihad against any that won’t convert to his religion!!!

          • denniso

            JoeH..rest your little self for a while..OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!

          • Joe H.

            denniso,
            he’ll have to prove it to me and he hasn’t done too good a job yet!!!!

          • cr747

            denniso, WRONG-He is a Muslim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, active duty soldiers do not call their Commander in Chief, a muslim, using lies to incite bloggers. You aren’t military, as you would not be disrespectful while on active duty. There is an oath that you take and you sure aren’t acting like a soldier giving respect to his Commander. If you are active duty you should be ashamed. Dude you never put “stuff” in writting, didn’t anyone teach you that? Not to bright on your part.

          • cr747

            Eyes, wrong again!!! He’s not my commander and chief. I only have one Commander And Chief. That is my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Besides Obama doesn’t even know what a commander and chiefs duties are!!! They sure are not telling the enemy when you are going to pull the troops out of a war!!!!!!!! I’ll use one of your slogans— LMAO

  • Robert

    I refuse to entertain Denniso comments and have decided to ignore his replies. Some time ago I replied to one of his replies by restating that great Bronx response to an idiot, “Take gas”. So for those of you who are fed up with Denniso, just reply with a single response “FART”. That’s how I plan to respond to this morons comments.

    • Joe H.

      Robert,
      That’s pretty good as all he comes out with is brainfarts!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      (comment removed for offensive content)

      • denniso

        You’re right..the term d__to he_d is beloved by the sheep who worship Limbaugh. We better thinking people think it’s a joke, but that doesn’t make it a bad word. I’ve been called a moron,idiot,troll,fool,communist and more, all w/ no censoring from above.

        • Joe H.

          And lest we forget, you have used them just as much!!!

    • Claire

      Robert—My gosh, that is terrible! I am really learning a lot on these sites! God help me, sometimes I have to laugh. Sometimes it is good to see the humor in things. It is very interesting reading all these posts. All of you appear to have feisty personalities and that is good. You’re on the ball.

    • denniso

      Robert, if I thought you and some others here had any real intellect and credibility I might be insulted.But…besides, I don’t really look at what you write in detail since it’s all the same,like a broken record…guns,armed revolution,calling your president names, calling anybody you disagree w/ more names..childish pablum!!

      • Joe H.

        denniso,
        Yeah just like you don’t read in depth any of the “facts” you spew either!!!

      • coal miner

        denniso,

        Don’t pay any attention to (Words removed for offensive content).He got nothing to say,but insults when you donn’t agree with him.

        • Claire

          I read on another post where a lady referred to Obama as a darky. That is uncalled for. I guess I’m a whitey. How crude.

        • denniso

          Coal miner…you’re right. And you know it’s amazing to me that these loud foul mouths actually think that calling those of us who disagree w/ them names, is going to scare us away. They still think they’re little bullies on the playground where it works. Not here, guys!! Grow up!!

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – you do an awful lot of name-calling -so I have no idea why you are accusing others of that which you continuously do yourself – do you read what you write?

          • Joe H.

            Coal minor,
            Exactly and thats’s the reason I’ll never run from dennislobber, his name calling doesn’t bother me in the least!!!!

          • Joe H.

            Hey bob,
            how about the comment about Rush by coal minor above? I think that was a little worse than mine!!!!

        • Claire

          I had to laugh at this one. Rush Limp—–. LOL!!!! I don’t care for him, but I heard he has been married numerous times–wonder if this is the reason. Geez, I am so bad. But this is funny.

          • Claire

            Now I AM in trouble.

  • Claire

    Well , guys and gals, it kind of sound like they are coming to Illinois. This is what I heard on the local radio station. They should fit right in with all the corrupt governors we have had and still seem to elect. Hey! I think the governors that are in prisons tight now should be put in with the terrorists! Old Blago should be there too. They could have a real party together. I think they would find out that they had a lot in common.

    • Joe H.

      Claire,
      Nice of the goof balls in charge of Illinois let the people decide huh? I don’t know….. maybe a vote or something? If one of those animals escape and anyone is hurt or killed, the politicians in Illinois from the governor on down should be held responsible!!!

      • Claire

        Joe H–Goofballs is right. Most of them are happy if the terrorists come here. They say it will create 3000 jobs–My God=-is it going to take that many people to guard the terrorists? This state is crazy. The Dems are for it, the Repubs are against it.
        And Durbin had “No comment” when he was asked about Obama’s speech and the plan to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. So I wonder if Durbin even knew about it? He was probably honked off because Obama did not ask his opinion about everything.
        Anyway I doubt if there would be a vote–Illinois is so in debt that they couldn’t pay to have a vote on it.
        Remember Burris replacing Obama for the Senate seat? Burris has had a huge mausoleum erected to be buried in. There was a picture in the paper. Unbelievable.

        • Joe H.

          Claire,
          that mausoleum was probably built with yours and other tax payers money!!! They spend it so freely and easily!!!

          • Claire

            NO doubt!! But it IS unbelievable. Looks like a pharoah should be entombed in it.

  • Claire

    Egad, I made typos and I’m supposed to be an editor! It has been a long week.

  • Claire

    You know, we must remember that our Justice System does not always do a good job. This statement applies to many many years. It seems that sometimes the laws are made for the criminals. Sure, we should give people the benefit of a doubt but if they are GUILTY, then the proper sentence should be given that fits the crime. I have seen so many case results where they get off with just a slap on the hand. A lot of our judges here in the U.S. should be held accountable.

  • Claire

    Joe H–I know my father-in-law was in the Ansar Shrine. They do a lot for kids–The Shriners Hospital, I believe. They have contributed a lot to the poor here in town. My husband does not go to all the meetings and is not as active as he used to be, but he still stays in touch.

    • Joe H.

      Claire,
      My youngest girl is a rainbow girl. I suppose to these inbreds that means she took on the devil to join!!! How vacant their skulls!!!

      • Claire

        Joe H–I talked to my husband about all this garbage going on about the Masons. His answer was–they’re nuts.
        I am proud of your youngest daughter.It is a very worthwhile organization for girls. You are doing well by your children.

        • Joe H.

          Claire,
          One does what one can. thanks for the compliment!!

          • Claire

            I remember when my son went to college-he is an engineer with IDOT now, but anyway, while he was in school there was a Pakistani? India? guy in the dorm. Anyway the guy used to cook up some foul smelling food and my son would moan about it. Plus the fact the guy got a free ride. He told my son about it. I really hate to bring this up, but this is not right. I could never figure out why some of the kids from other countries got a free ride in our colleges and universities. The guy wasn’t in sports or nothing. Go figure.

          • eyeswideopen

            Claire, we have an exchange program with many countries. We need people to learn customs, language and lay of the land, so that knowledge can be used to protect us or help us understand another country. Alot of our intel is procured by college students who in turn join our CIA, FBI, Homeland Security. The free ride is enjoyed by ours on the other end.

  • Claire

    Guys and Gals—here I go again, but all of us vote for the person we feel will do the best job. We all have good intentions when we vote. Basically, none of us are to blame if things do not work out.We did our best. Now it is up to the elected person to do the job they were elected to do. Sure, we can say “vote for this guy,” “vote for that guy” but in the end it is the luck of the draw. None of us know what will happen once a person is elected because it seems that the minute they are elected, then everything changes and we are not as pleased as we thought we would be. Once they are in office, they have to get along with each other and it appears none of them will cooperate. In order for them to cooperate with each other, here comes the arrival of lobbyists, the pork and all the little “gifts” they want so they can improve their “status.” They all have different ideas, policies, goals, and they all want to climb the ladder of success for themselves.

  • cr747

    Claire, It does help when the ones in charge listen to the people that voted for them. Most of all it helps when the chief Boy Scout has a little bit of intelligence though, and make decisions on his on without having to ask past Presidents where the bathroom is.!!!!!!!!

    • Joe H.

      cr747,
      Good one!! Too bad it’s true!!

    • Claire

      I know, I am just to the point where I don’t want to hear it anymore. I am weary of the whole mess.

    • denniso

      cr747…not long after Bush is out of office and you want to draw comparisons between Obama’s and Bush’s intelligence?? You have got to be kidding me!! you are joking, right?? Bush was w/ almost no doubt the most incompetent and dumb president ever. Obama is actually smart enough to be president!!

      • Joe H.

        denniso,
        when is he going to start proving it?!?!?!? he’s about the same or worse than CARTER!!!!!!

      • cr747

        WOW! what about that gallup pole rating for Obama at 47% as his 1st year in office in December. MAN OH MAN Bush gallop pole rating 86% as his first year in office in DECEMBER. Wow what a big difference!!!!!! Seems as though your little prez not so BRIGHT after all!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Claire

    I saw Gen. Gates on TV today? yesterday? and I am bothered a bit. I was watching him, and there is something I cannot put my finger on. It may have been his body language, the way he looked and talked. I don’t know. My gut instinct sent up warning signals for some reason. I just do not know if this man really knows what he is doing. Give me some input on this. Does anyone else feel this way about him? I hope I am not getting paranoid over this mess. I have lived long enough that when I get that good “old gut feeling” I had better pay attention.

    • eyeswideopen

      Claire, he really didn’t want Obama to cave into the Republicans and send the 30k, as he knows we cannot win. He knows that we are very vulnerable with only 10k troops left. I think he also knows that the corrupt Pres of Afghanistan wants us to stay for another 10 years, to protect his drug business. Leave it to Obama to keep Bush’s Sec. of Defense. Could have been big mistake to trust him and McChrystal. McChrystal should have been fired for discussing the request to the press. Such disrespect shown to the President by his generals is an example of our loss of pride and decorum.

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