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Chef Broke The Law By Cooking Healthy Food

October 23, 2012 by  

Chef Broke The Law By Cooking Healthy Food
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Annika Eriksson, a long-time Swedish chef revered for her school lunches, has been squelched.

Has she made errors? Are her meals contaminated? Has the quality of her ingredients slipped? No, none of the above.

The trouble stems purely from the fact that her meals are too good. Yes, you read that right.

She’s exceeding expectations. She bakes fresh bread every day. She offers 15 different vegetables at lunchtime. She knows it pleases the students to have choices.

This is her crime because, you see, other schools don’t have the same benefits in the Falun district in Sweden. (This is called collectivist logic, something to avoid like the plague.)

Ericksson maintains her meals don’t go beyond budget allocations. She’s just doing a good thing. She obviously likes doing it; and, of course, the kids love her meals.

Now, there will be no more of her fresh baked bread. That will be replaced by store-bought bread.

And the array of 15 vegetables? Gone, too. She is allowed to offer only half as many.

Ericksson’s students and their parents are in an uproar. How can the authorities take away the wonderful lunches? Apparently, it’s more important to preserve one-size-fits-all collectivism than to serve healthy and innovative meals.

Why doesn’t the district send other school chefs to Eriksson, so they can learn how she makes her brand of magic?

When someone exceeds the standard in a positive direction, why not pull everyone else upward? Why push the brilliant person down?

The answer is obvious. The most important thing is the collectivist system. The individual who enters the system is expected to tailor his or her actions to the norm. That’s the game.

The person who goes beyond the norm exposes the lie of the system. That person reveals there is something better outside the framework of the consensus reality.

It makes the bureaucratic androids tremble. Of what use are they when someone ignores their jungle of rules and regulations and creates a better outcome in the process?

I don’t know about you, but I prefer 15 vegetables and fresh-baked bread. I prefer Ericksson to human drones.

This story reminds me of a piece I wrote in 2002, “A Miracle in Wisconsin.” It detailed how one school independently pushed through the ceiling of conformity to create a revolution in healthy eating and, thereby, its own culture. Here it is:

In Appleton, Wisconsin, a revolution has occurred. It’s taken place in the Central Alternative High School. The kids now behave. The hallways aren’t frantic. Even the teachers are happy.

The school used to be out of control. Kids packed weapons.  Discipline problems swamped the principal’s office.

But not since 1997.

What happened? Did they line every inch of space with cops? Did they spray Valium gas in the classrooms? Did they install metal detectors in the bathrooms? Did they build holding cells in the gym?

Afraid not. In 1997, a private group called Natural Ovens began installing a healthy lunch program.

Fast-food burgers, fries, and burritos gave way to fresh salads, meats “prepared with old-fashioned recipes,” and whole grain bread. Fresh fruits were added to the menu. Good drinking water arrived.

As reported in a newsletter called Pure Facts, “Grades are up, truancy is no longer a problem, arguments are rare, and teachers are able to spend their time teaching.”

Principal LuAnn Coenen, who files annual reports with the state of Wisconsin, has turned in some staggering figures since 1997. Drop-outs? Students expelled? Students discovered to be using drugs? Carrying weapons? Committing suicide? Every category has come up ZERO. Every year.

Mary Bruyette, a teacher, states, “I don’t have to deal with daily discipline issues.  I don’t have disruptions in class or the difficulties with student behavior I experienced before we started the food program.”

One student asserted, “Now that I can concentrate I think it’s easier to get along with people.”

Principal Coenen sums it up: “I can’t buy the argument that it’s too costly for schools to provide good nutrition for their students. I found that one cost will reduce another. I don’t have the vandalism. I don’t have the litter. I don’t have the need for high security.”

Pure Facts, the newsletter that ran this story, is published by a nonprofit organization called The Feingold Association, which has existed since 1976. Part of its mission is to “generate public awareness of the potential role of foods and synthetic additives in behavior, learning and health problems. The [Feingold] program is based on a diet eliminating synthetic colors, synthetic flavors, and the preservatives BHA, BHT, and TBHQ.”

Thirty years ago, there was a Dr. Feingold. His breakthrough work proved the connection between these negative factors in food and the lives of children. Hailed as a revolutionary advance, Feingold’s findings were soon trashed by the medical cartel, since those findings threatened the drugs-for-everything, disease-model concept of modern healthcare.

But Feingold’s followers have kept his work alive.

Every great revolution starts with a foothold. Sounds like Natural Ovens and The Feingold Association have made strong cuts into the big rock of ignorance and greed.

Update, 2012: We now see big government trying to force dietary changes on citizens, and it was predictable that this effort would be met with resistance. The change, in order to succeed, has to come from within.

People have to want it and make it happen where they live. Otherwise, it’s just another brand of government coercion, and it’s usually launched for covert reasons having little to do with the announced objectives. One of those hidden reasons is naked control over the population.

When big government is ignored in favor of local and passionate volunteer participation, people do come up with their own innovative ideas; and they do implement them. It’s called decentralization of power. It’s the core of vital change for the better.

Remember President Barack Obama’s pronouncement, “You didn’t build that. Somebody else did.” In his estimation, all good things flow from centralized authority acting “for the greatest good of the greatest number.”

Well, he was dead wrong about what the greatest good is and where it comes from. It comes from the free individual, a concept he and others like him have never fathomed.

And where health is concerned, the commitment to it can begin in only one place: in the mind of the individual. It can’t emanate from big government imposing rules. It can’t be handed down like an edict. People aren’t identical biological machines.

Free Eriksson! Bring back her bread and her 15 vegetables!

–Jon Rappoport
www.nomorefakenews.com

Jon Rappoport

, The author of an explosive collection, "The Matrix Revealed," Jon Rappoport was a candidate for a U.S. Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern and other newspapers and magazines in the United States and Europe. Rappoport has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic and creative power to audiences around the world. His blog, No More Fake News, can be read here.

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  • duif100

    I wonder if Michelle was involved in this. Sound like her!

    • Karolyn

      Could you make any more ridiculous a remark? Michelle Obama is all about healthy eating and would not condone this.

      • http://na Mike in NE

        Sure Karolyn, I’m sure you swallow all that michelle endorses. Before you do,think it thru.

      • http://google redbull

        Yes, Grump azz Michele and her maddrass educated marxist dine on steak and potatoes before every debate.ame as the did when they partied in the WH with Kobi Jap beef, which runs over a $100 a pound and to be flown in.Of course these 2 shumks have wasted more tax payer’s money fly on jets that cost about $200,000 an hour, to go golfing and shopping in EU or any where that less than !/10 of 1% will ever be able to golf or shop just once. Of course they tell all the serfs how tothink, what to eat, and what to say.

        • Cliff

          I agree 200%!!!

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      This happened in Sweden, not here, so why would you think that Michelle Obama had anything to do with it. You do know, don’t you, that other country’s can lead their own governments quite well without us.

      Our Government has been promoting healthy foods and exercise for at least 40 years. Why are you complaining about it now? It’s not like they have been forced. Either then or now.

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        tigeer, if you think the gov promotes healthy eating then you are on toooooooo much fluoride. Stop brushing your teeth with the crap and start thinking for yourself.

  • Rogue Elephant

    I’m sure – complaining the portions were too big.

  • dntmkmecomoverther

    Once again, it’s local people with local control and responsibility for their schools which makes them ‘work’ better…if at all. Government schools are simply screwed by miles of red tape and stupidity being dumped on them in the form of unionism, and ‘all kids left behind’ type programs which simply do not work ‘everywhere’ if anywhere. Get education back into the hands of local communities like it used to be and we will all be much better for it…and it will cost MUCH less.

    • john o’sullivan

      That’s quite an aggressive monika/label you have. Ever thought of anger management sessions or perhaps some gently induced therapy?

      • Opal the Gem

        That is quite the asinine statement you have made there john o’sullivan. why don’t you try contributing something to the discussion instead of making usless remarks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregbeaty Greg T Beaty

    Is this what we want for America, I do not think so. Stop Obama socialism this election.

    • Robert Smith

      “The answer is obvious. The most important thing is the collectivist system. The individual who enters the system is expected to tailor his or her actions to the norm. That’s the game.”

      Actually in America it’s called: No Child left behind.”

      Rob

      • rendarsmith

        Can’t argue on that one

      • Vigilant

        …and Race to the Top.

    • msbets

      THIS IS VERY TRUE BETWEEN MR AND MRS COMMIE/MARXIST, ONE SIZES FIT ALL…………AS WE SPEAK THE KIDS ARE THROWING AWAY THE FOOD………SOME HAVE TO BRING THEIR OWN BECAUSE 850 CALORIES IS NOT ENOUGH FOR BOYS IN SPORTS………..THIS IS SO UNREAL IT’S LAUGHABLE AND THIS FREAK IS OUT THERE LYING TO AMERICA, IF THIS THING IS GIVEN ANOTHER 4, THE 47%ER’S ARE GOING TO WONDER JUST WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED, OUR COUNTRY HAS ALREADY BECOME A CESSPOOL IN THE 4 THAT THIS CRETIN HAS HAD, BUT THIS IS WHAT WAS PLANNED FROM THE GETGO, FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING AMERICA, WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.

      • Cliff Odom

        I understand it and believe it all to well. For the life of me I can NOT understand were common sense and “eyes wide open” have gone in the USA. I have always worked for what I have and never expected anyone else to give it to me. I have a feeling of accomplishment when my job is done and great anticipation in starting my next endeavor. I, also, thank my God above for keeping me in great health and giving me the ability to help others in real need who really can not or have true difficulty in helping themselves. My prayer is that my Father above will continue to watch over and protect the USA and we will again ask for forgiveness of our disobedience and return to Him. For God to bless America we must again bless Him. Our God is a loving God. (and hopefully Nobama for the next four years)

    • DaveH

      Stop Obama AND Romney Socialism this election:
      http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/

      • Momforfreedom

        And just how do you propose we do that? Realistically, that is.

      • DaveH

        I just gave you the solution. You can vote for a Politician who respects your Freedom and give exposure to Freedom. Or you can vote for a Politician who doesn’t respect your Freedom in the vain hopes that somehow he will change his mind and favor you over his Crony Capitalists and his own Power. The latter vote will be a wasted vote because you can’t expect a Politician, who doesn’t want to shrink Big Government, to shrink Big Government.

      • Momforfreedom

        Gary Johnson? That’s your realistic solution? Right. Because everyone knows who he is and will think to vote for him at the last minute….oy. Wake up. He might be awesome and freedom-loving, and a true American motivated by love of country and not political gain, but seriously?

        This presupposes everyone in the country will a) read your message and go to the guy’s website; b) be convinced just by reading his own words that he’s the real choice; c) somehow hear about him if they haven’t read this; d) completely trust someone who they know very little (if anything) about; e) decide their previous choices were groundless….I could go on. That’s why I said “realistically.”

        Now if we don’t completely go into Socialism within the next four years, maybe Mr. Johnson can use his time, resources and following to make a case for running against whoever does win this time, and give us a better choice in 2016. Personally, I don’t believe that’ll be possible if Obama gets in again, but perhaps with Romney, we’ll still have the right to vote. Who knows? Just sayin’.

      • DaveH

        They’ve been offering the Lesser of Two Evils ever since I became of voting age (40 years ago).
        And Unrealistic people keep thinking they have no choice because their votes would be “thrown away”. The Realistic thing is that if you’re going to a destination North of you, you will NEVER get there by traveling West.
        Imagine if the Professional Athletes quit the first time they didn’t win a contest? Could they ever achieve greatness if they didn’t start striving for it?
        You have drunk the Kool-Aid, Mom.

      • Paul Wells

        DaveH,

        For the last freakin’ time: Gary Johnson, nor Ron Paul (even though I really like them both) CANNOT and WILL NOT win this election. When you vote for them, and they lose BIG, Obummer gets in for another 4 years! I fail to see how that changes ANYTHING. Here’s a clue: Next election, get Gary Johnson OUT there in the limelight, run a good grass roots campaign, poll higher than .1% in the primary, and maybe you’ve got a shot. You couldn’t possibly get “everyone” to vote for Gary Johnson, and surely…surely, you know that! Stop with this, hold your nose, and vote for Romney to get the poser in chief out of office!

      • Momforfreedom

        No, Dave, I haven’t. I actually agree with you about the choices we’ve been given. You simply missed my point. I’m trying to show you that even if Gary Johnson is the answer to our biggest problems, even if he’s what we need and not simply what we have to put up with, this election cycle is not the one in which he’s a viable, realistic choice. Why? Because he’s still a virtual unknown.

        Like those who support Ron Paul, you aren’t accepting the reality of our not-so-great situation. Do I like Obama? The man gives me the shuddering ickies. Do I like Romney? Not really, and for the very reasons you espouse. But if I don’t vote for Romney, the blatant, in-your-face Marxist who has a serious case of Eva Peron syndrome will get back in and complete the destruction in less than his allotted four years. At least with Romney, there’s a chance we can pull back from the cliff’s edge – we certainly don’t have to re-elect him after his first term, but heck, there’s a far better chance we’ll even HAVE another election after that term. And like I said, good people like Mr. Johnson will, indeed, have that realistic chance to get noticed and run in a way that recognizable by everyone. But right now, he doesn’t, plain and simple.

        I wish that weren’t the case. I like Ron Paul, too, and Herman Cain was one of my candidates of preference. But we can use Romney as a distraction to further strengthen the base of voters who believe in our country’s founding principles. Men like Gary Johnson will be able to work with voters to get them to see that both Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin, as the saying goes, and are at the raw end of the root of our problems politically and in societal matters.

        So I stand by what I said, and will continue to drink my coffee, while those who wish to support our current two-party system slurp up that kool-aid you speak of. By the way, thank you for having a civil discussion with me. Others on these sites immediately resort to vile name-calling and unfounded accusations. You, on the other hand, were simply expressing a concern based on what my few words were telling you about how I feel. It’s refreshing to enjoy an intelligent conversation like this – again, thank you! ‘D

      • independent thinker

        “Here’s a clue: Next election, get Gary Johnson OUT there in the limelight, run a good grass roots campaign, poll higher than .1% in the primary, and maybe you’ve got a shot.”

        That is what it will take for the Libertarian party to amount to anything nationaly. Where I live the only time you hear anything about the two or three Libertarian candidates on the ballot is when you go in to vote and see the names. They have NO visible presence otherwise. No adds in the newspaper, no TV ads, no radio ads they do not even show up at the fair to pass out material. Until the Libertarian party can overcome this they will always be an also ran. If it were not for this site I would know nothing about them and most likely would have never heard about Gary Johnson.

      • Vicki

        Paul Wells says:
        “For the last freakin’ time: Gary Johnson, nor Ron Paul (even though I really like them both) CANNOT and WILL NOT win this election. When you vote for them, and they lose BIG, Obummer gets in for another 4 years! I fail to see how that changes ANYTHING.”

        And voting for Obama or Obama spelled with an R is going to change things? If all you people who CLAIM that neither Gary nor Ron can possibly win would stop complaining and join us in voting principle, either or both of them would win in a landslide of votes. Just google all of the stories about Dr Ron Paul and the crowds that came to his speeches.

        Paul Wells: “Here’s a clue: Next election, get Gary Johnson OUT there in the limelight, run a good grass roots campaign, poll higher than .1% in the primary, and maybe you’ve got a shot.”

        With the mass media firmly behind the Democrat or Republican how do you expect them to gain any limelight?

        There IS a solution. And your “grass roots” campaign is it. But to work you have to get exposure. Social media IS the solution to the MSM bias against any and all 3rd parties.

      • DaveH

        Paul, for the last time? Really? Promise?

      • DaveH

        Mom says — “this election cycle is not the one in which he’s a viable, realistic choice. Why? Because he’s still a virtual unknown”.
        Duh, that would be the case when people all waste their votes on the lesser of two Evils, which is STILL just Evil. He won’t become known until people quit letting the PTBs steer them around by the rings in their noses and start voting for him.

      • DaveH

        Thinker says — “Where I live the only time you hear anything about the two or three Libertarian candidates on the ballot is when you go in to vote and see the names.”.
        It takes money to run a campaign Thinker. Their main source of funding comes from the people, NOT the Crony Capitalists to whom the Libertarians are Anathema. The MSM and other news sources favorable to the Big Government Politicians and their Crony Capitalists will do everything in their Power to stifle the voice of Libertarians. Crony Capitalists don’t like Competition. They much prefer to buy their favorite Crony Politicians and make their riches the easy way.
        Are you going to sit back and let the Elites make fools of the rest of us or are you going to help out? Go here to donate:
        http://www.lp.org/

      • DaveH

        Paul says — “When you vote for them, and they lose BIG, Obummer gets in for another 4 years!”.
        How many times do I have to tell you Sheeple that in 2 out of 3 states, where there was such polling, it was found that Gary Johnson hurt Obama more than he hurt Romney. So you dumbkoffs are throwing away your votes for NOTHING! If Gary got 20% of the vote, you can bet that the MSM would either start giving him air-time or go down like NewsWeek when the people finally get the huevos and smarts to stop listening to the Propaganda Channels.

      • Wil

        Do you really believe that the powers-that-be are going to let anyone other than their chosen puppets get their foot in the door?

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “How many times do I have to tell you Sheeple that in 2 out of 3 states, where there was such polling, it was found that Gary Johnson hurt Obama more than he hurt Romney.”

        This is the first time I have seen you make that claim and you have provided no source for it.

    • Karolyn

      And Do you really think anything will change under a Romney administration?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Is this what we want for America, I do not think so. Stop Obama socialism this election.”

      Huh? This happened in Sweden, not in the US. And attempting to tie it into the Obama Administration is just pitiful.

  • probe

    This is an absolute disgrace if it is true as reported. There is NOTHING more important for developing young minds and bodies than proper nutrition, something which most mainstream doctors are very poorly trained in. They are mostly trained to be pharmaceutical company drones and ‘cut, burn and poison’ robots.
    As Hippocrates said, “Let food be thy medicine, and they medicine be food.”

  • rendarsmith

    Don’t you just love Socialist Sweden?

  • S.C,Murf

    Soylent Green (remember?) michelle is trying to bring it back. Nutritious, delicious the kids will love it

    up the hill
    airborne

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      Nonsense. She does nothing of the sort.

      This Government has published a “food chart” for over 40 years. This Government has promoted healthy eating and exercise for over 40 years. They have never been forced, and they are not being forced now.

      What Michelle Obama is doing is not anything different. You just don’t like her. Stop being so silly. You are scaring YOURSELVES. Why?

  • Ted

    I think that you weaken your point by going to Sweden to get your anacdotal evidence. I’m sure you could have found many examples closer to home. Indeed, with the thousands of schoold districts in the US, I’m sure that you can find find examples to prove just about any point you want to make.

  • DaveH

    Excellent article, Jon. Welcome to Personal Liberty.

  • RichE

    Update: The day this article was published, it was announced that Eriksson will be able to continue baking her own bread and providing healthful vegetable options. The incident has been called a “misunderstanding,” according to Swedish news source dt.se.

  • Chester

    dntmkmecomoverther.Most of the rules our schools have to follow have NOTHING to do with whether or not there is a union in place, but all too often, are there because there IS no union to protect the children or the teachers from an overzealous school board, or, more often, rules from the state and higher.

    • DaveH

      Dream on, Chester.

    • Shaana

      Bull. The union can not help children at all. If they were about helping the children, there would NEVER be a strike because of money, leaving children and the parents of those children with nothing to do. No, Chester, the union is about making money, like every other business. Get under the rainbow. This is not a fairy tale.

    • Wil

      So which Wisconsin union boss was it that said they would care about the children when the children are old enough to pay dues?All the unions care about is keeping that money rolling in.

  • http://n.a. mort_f

    Seems that the problem lies with ASSUMING that anyone can be a ‘chef’. A poor assumption.. It is akin to anyone can become a ‘teacher’, another poor assumption. Add the assumption that one can generate engineers if one just increases the budget for engineering schools. Would even the dumbest politicians say the same about violinists, opera singers, artists, etc. It takes innate talent, something that neither education nor government dictate can create. The only thing government can do is to provide a fertile field for talent to operate in, and then to keep out of its way.

  • RichE

    Hmmmm, fresh bread or a pole dance?

    Swedish lunch lady in pole dance protest
    http://www.thelocal.se/37010/20111028/

  • Catherine

    I don’t get it, what law is there that she broke? In other schools they are taking away a mothers nutritional lunch and forcing them to eat the bad cafeteria food. Which is it?

    • FreedomFighter

      Its commies doing what commies do best — screw up a good thing, so nobody has anything good.

    • http://personalliberty.com Ed Weber

      Relax Catherine,,This is a story about a school in Sweden.

  • Steve E

    Eat, drink, and be merry. Hurry, before the Socialist take it away.

  • john o’sullivan

    Even with the kids having less choice for veggies, the Swedish school lunches are still in general, better than this country. There is no common sense applied for not allowing the Chef to introduce fresh baked healthy bread-it’s inexpensive and an excellent alternative to store bought sliced cardboard commercial bread……..remember the whiter the bread – the sooner you’re dead ! Something doesn’t sit right here – was the lady chef threatened with the loss of her job?

    • DaveH

      Most likely, the corporate bread makers lobbied the Government to stop what might become a trend to their detriment. Crony Capitalists abhor competition.

    • ChuckS

      The home-made bread may have been cheaper, depending on labor costs. Also depending on cost of the oven, or if they already had it.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      The head of the food schedule for the school districts is who should be approached.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.miller.900 Bruce Miller

    Huge anti-socialism bias here. many assumptions made also: Canada’s Socialized Medical system is the finest in the world, bar none. What do Canadians do right with their communal leverages that Sweden missed? Best ask the questions, the right questions, before jumping to foregone conclusions fueled by the Great Corporate American Propaganda Whores mesmerizations. Keep in mind the menu in the U.S. is condemned around the world as the very most unhealthy food on earth! (highest salt, fat and sugar) Medical care in U.S. near the bottom, Schools less effective than Estonia’s schools, and the “military machine” found to be totally foreign oil dependent, fully chinese loan dependent at this point in time.
    Because Sweden makes mistakes does not make America better!

    • Rosech

      Hate to tell you that Canada’s med system is as bad as Europe’s and why so many come to the US for medical assistance. Same long waits, same disregard, etc., in Canada. You are one blind puppy!

      • Karolyn

        Canadians on both sides of that fence have posted here previously. One said their medical system was terrific and the other said it sucked. I think it might depend on where one lives (just like here, btw).

      • independant thinker

        Karolyn it is my understanding that if you work for the government in ANY capacity you go to the “head of the line” and get preferential care if you do not work for the government you go to the back og the line and wait your turn.

    • Vicki

      Bruce Miller says:
      “Huge anti-socialism bias here. many assumptions made…”

      As opposed to your huge pro-socialism bias? Filled with many “proofs by bald assertion”?

      • Robert Smith

        Vicki bleats: “As opposed to your huge pro-socialism bias? ”

        Some things SHOULD be socialised. Medicine comes to mind. We are part way there with retired military, Medicaid, and Medicare.

        How can a NECESSITY fo very life be considered a “competative” situation? Big business has pretty much taken over medicine and it sucks. I don’t like some guy reading from a book in India trying to tell my Dr. what my treatment should be. I don’t like the notion of a CEO of a medical HMO working to increase the take home for stock holders and buying himself a bigger car.

        Utilities were ALMOST socialist in that they were heavily regulated and among the most reliable systems in the world. Now much of N.E. goes without power for over a week because the trees aren’t trimmed, and Enron rips off millions of folks.

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:
        “Vicki bleats: “As opposed to your huge pro-socialism bias? ” ”

        Ad hominem attack. How typical.

        Robert Smith: “How can a NECESSITY fo very life be considered a “competative” situation?”

        In case you have not noticed, things that are REALLY necessary for life (water, food) have been competed for since before recorded history.

        Robert Smith: “Big business has pretty much taken over medicine and it sucks. I don’t like some guy reading from a book in India trying to tell my Dr. what my treatment should be.”

        Yet you are ok with a bureaucrat telling you who your doctor is going to be? (government sponsored health care in any form)

        Robert Smith: “I don’t like the notion of a CEO of a medical HMO working to increase the take home for stock holders and buying himself a bigger car.”

        Yet you are ok with a congressman working to increase the the pork he brings home to his constituents?

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Bruce Miller,

      You write: “Huge anti-socialism bias here.” Did the words “Personal Liberty” in the masthead tip you off, or was it something else?

      You write: “Keep in mind the menu in the U.S. is condemned around the world as the very most unhealthy food on earth! (highest salt, fat and sugar)” You forgot to mention contaminated with GMO, and it’s endorsed by the FDA and USDA. In other words, Government run.

      You write: “Medical care in U.S. near the bottom,” Government run.

      You write: “Schools less effective than Estonia’s schools,” Government run.

      You write: “and the “military machine” found to be totally foreign oil dependent, fully chinese loan dependent at this point in time.” Government run. Wait! I’m sensing a pattern here. I’ll bet you don’t see it.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        Bob,

        “You write: “Medical care in U.S. near the bottom,” Government run.”

        This is false. Medical care in the US is not run by the Government. It is run by the insurance company’s, and they have had us over a barrel for over 3 decades.

        Even after the ACA is fully implented the Government will still not be Government run. That would mean the insurance company’s would belong to the Government. They will not.

        The pharmaceutical company’s are not Government run. The Government does not own them.

        I wholeheartedly, BTW, agree with you about Monsanto and their genetically modified food. It scares me beyond anything else I’ve known about.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear tlgeer,

          You write: “Medical care in the US is not run by the Government. It is run by the insurance company’s, and they have had us over a barrel for over 3 decades.” You have much to learn about how the world works. Fortunately you are in the right place.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “the Government will still not be Government run. ”

        I meant that the insurance company’s will still not be Government run. lol

      • DaveH

        TLGeer,
        You haven’t got the slightest clue what you’re talking about. Read this and get a clue:
        http://mises.org/daily/3793

      • Robert Smith

        Tigeer says to Bob: “This is false. Medical care in the US is not run by the Government. It is run by the insurance company’s, and they have had us over a barrel for over 3 decades.”

        Abspolutely true. American medical care is right around 18 or 19th in the world usually next to Cuba, that does have socialized medicine. That’s based on life expectancy and infant mortality. Industrialized countries with socialized medicine are above America.

        Others come to America because for those who can pay we have the best medical care, but in America relatively few can afford that.

        Rob

    • MIke

      About 3+ million Canadians have PRIVATE health insurance policies according to Wikipedia. If the system is so great, why are they shelling out $$$$ for such coverage?
      The article will answer these and other questions.

      • Robert Smith

        There will always be those who want to BUY their way to the head of the line, regardless of their real need.

        Rob

    • TANSTAAFL.ca

      I have lived in Canada my whole life and I can assure you that the Canadian health care system is not quite as good as you make it out to be. It works fine if you are healthy. It works fairly well if you break a limb. Other than that, you can wait upwards of 18 months or longer for certain procedures.

      Of course, because health care is a provincial responsibility, there are differences in service and wait times in the various regions but in general is pretty bad across the entire country. In fact, most of our wealthier residents tend to travel to get faster access to certain procedures since there is no option to pay for your own treatment. Also, a comparison of tax rates between the US & Canada shows that we are paying premium dollars for bargain basement levels of care due the monopolistic nature of the Canadian Health Care system (the difference between taxes/GDP paid in Canada versus the US is very close to the amount of money taken up in the public health care system).

      Furthermore, this monopoly makes it difficult if not impossible to get alternative treatments by accredited doctors. It is very difficult to get compensation for medical mistakes due to the protective nature of the public system so there is little punishment for gross negligence or medical mistakes. I understand that the US system is not perfect either, but you would be foolish to model your system after Canada. Even the so-called socialist countries in Europe have made adjustments to their healthcare to allow for parallel public and private healthcare.

      So the 100% publicly funded system is only available in Canada now. Pity… (sorry, Canadiana joke, I could not resist)

    • DaveH

      How can you tell, Bruce? Do you have a handle on all the hidden costs and other side-effects that result from Government mandates?
      This author said he was a fan of Socialized Medicine at one time. But no longer:
      http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html

  • Kevin Wickham

    Most replying are thinking dem or rep. You foks need to look up the word “collectivism” grow a backbone and not believe you only have two choices. This is exactly what the system wants you to do! Makes me sad that in 20122 people still buy into the whole leFt or right thing

    • http://google redbull

      There is only 2 choices, one a ideaology of government control of you and everything in the USA, which is the socialist/communist democrat party from it inception. The other group beleives you have the power to do and create anything you want. With out paper shuffling degreed morons who know nothing, but the centerized government BS theories that never work, but costs everyone who wants to be self confidant to create something that benefits society, not live off of everyone else.

      • Wil

        Here’s probably the best description I’ve heard of your two “choices”.
        personalliberty.com/2012/09/24/propagandizing-the-masses

      • Kevin Wickham

        redbull have you ever read “propaganda” by edward bernays? maybe you should. and if you dont think both major parties in this presidential campaign are not collectivists, you really should look that word up as i suggested earlier

      • Kevin Wickham

        good link wil. the article breaks it down fairly well i think. you see the two main parties only bicker over their differences, but they never talk about the collectivist agenda they both wholeheartedly agree on

  • http://onedumbamigo.wordpress.com onedumbamigo

    Reality – governments want you citizens to be; stupid, unhealthy, and sick.
    Why? Because it all generates money, death, and control. 1) They don’t want you to uprise against the mad Laws they make for their profit and friends. 2) They don’t want to spend anything on you when you get ill… they want you to die.
    Everyone knows that the molestor scare keeps kids inside, and as a result, our youth are fatter than ever, lazy, rude, entitled, and lacking for any common sense, when we all know that a life-long jail term for any child molestor is the answer. The drug companies were never around 80 years ago, and our people were healthier, because we grew and ate our own vegetables, natural foods, not pasturized, or preserved, or hydragenated… All this crap in our food has done what the author suggests, pollutes the mind and body – it is toxic and is the cause of most deseases and cancers. Your politicians suck royally!!! We need to go to an internet public system for solving all of our local, state and national issues, screw the policitians… every reason for this countries failures and poor conditions stem from thier laws… When will rightousness prevail and the people’s will prevail?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “We need to go to an internet public system for solving all of our local, state and national issues, screw the policitians”

      That’s communism. I thought we didn’t like that.

    • http://itsootsme.wordpress.com sootsme

      Buckminster Fuller wrote a poem called “No More Secondhand God” in 1949, wherein he proposed that we directly vote on the issues of the day, as often as necessary, by phone (old school equivalent of today’s Internet). Needless to say, our “public servants” skipped that one…

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        It wasn’t practical. It would have required a whole white house full of people to answer the phones, and it would have taken more than one day. Plus, there were a lot of people who still didn’t have a phone. They wouldn’t have been able to vote.

    • Kevin Wickham

      whew! and i thought i was the only one who sees things as they are

  • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

    “Ericksson’s students and their parents are in an uproar. How can the authorities take away the wonderful lunches? Apparently, it’s more important to preserve one-size-fits-all collectivism than to serve healthy and innovative meals.

    Why doesn’t the district send other school chefs to Eriksson, so they can learn how she makes her brand of magic?

    When someone exceeds the standard in a positive direction, why not pull everyone else upward? Why push the brilliant person down?

    The answer is obvious. The most important thing is the collectivist system. The individual who enters the system is expected to tailor his or her actions to the norm. That’s the game.”

    You have some very good questions, but Sweden is not the US and we have no control over it.

    In what way do you think that this ties in to Obama? That’s a pretty giant leap.

    “And where health is concerned, the commitment to it can begin in only one place: in the mind of the individual. It can’t emanate from big government imposing rules. It can’t be handed down like an edict. People aren’t identical biological machines.”

    I agree, but who exactly has said that they want this?

    • DaveH

      How does this tie to Obama?
      Uh, can you say Obamacare?

    • MattN

      How about Moochelle? She is thinking she has the answer to everything, but she is mistaken. She can’t even get her husband to eat what she says is good for them (I doubt she eats right too).

      • sam1966

        Not from the looks of her ever expanding rear. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • TheTruthHurts

    Why would you want to promote something that works? What’s wrong with a grocery list full of life long meds with disastrous side effects? What if I want to take the depression medication that increases the risk of suicidal thoughts? Isn’t it ‘normal’ to be hyperactive, overly medicated, obnoxious, presumptuous & unreasonable? I want my kid to be fat, smelly and a jerk. Why can’t all the other kids be like me? Why am I ostracized (or was that last one too big a word)?

  • Kevin Wickham

    btw here is a link to the book “propaganda” i mentioned earlier. this is the bible that all spin doctors have studied. read and see how you are being manipulated into thinking there are only two choices.

    http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html

    hope you dont mind this bob

  • Chris

    Gary Johnson is on the ballot on November 6th also. You don’t have a choice of only A or B.

  • Dave Stump

    Unfortunately, Bob, you are out of date. According to Huff Post: “Update: The day this article was published, [October 8th] it was announced that Eriksson will be able to continue baking her own bread and providing healthful vegetable options. The incident has been called a “misunderstanding,” according to Swedish news source dt.se.

    I guess the Sweeds have some dumb, officious bureaucrats also. At least they know how to curb them quickly.

  • http://n/a Arlen

    As a free thinking retired engineer who innovated many new concepts in the aviation field, I praise those in Sweden and Wisconsin who rise above the common norms. I have so many food allergies that I’ve been forced to study good nutrition. Reading labels and making my own recipes have become the norm. Forty or so years ago, a book was published concerning the need for children to eat properly. It was called, “Can your child read, Is he hyperactive?” It stressed the need for parents and school officials to make sure that our kiddos eat wholesome foods.

    About that same time, I was relocated from CO to CA (LA) for several years. We were asked by a couple that we knew if we would watch their 3 kids for a week while they went on a much needed vacation. We moved in with the kids (ages 10 to 15) and announced, the first day that “tomorrow, we will eat supper at 6:00 P.M.”. Nobody showed up for supper that next day. The same happened the next day and it blew my mind that they would come home from school, grab a couple of candy bars/cookies, etc. and a coke out of the fridge and head off to be with their friends for the evening.

    Later, after our family grew, we needed to buy a bigger house in LA. We found one in a nice neighborhood that had the required number of bedrooms in it, but on inspection, we couldn’t find the kitchen table. There was a short bar with a couple of stools but, no place for a table for the family to eat. It turned out that there was no need for a table because the LA families typically didn’t sit down to eat together. In a later CA study to determine why their divorce rate was so much higher than normal (over twice as high as that of CO), the investigators concluded that the most common factor amongst families that divorced was that they didn’t eat together. Of course, if the kids ate like those of our friends, they were bouncing off the ceiling and walls most of the time and disrupting their families beyond reason.

    Good food, complete with 5 or more vegetables and fruits each day, devoid of heavily sugared cereals, snacks and drinks, would go a long way toward curbing the mental and social ills of this country as well as the expanding waistlines. Actually, in Minnesota where some of our relatives live, the suggested daily fare includes a suggested minimum of 9 vegetables and fruits per day. I eat at least 6 low fat vegetables and fruits a day and have no trouble maintaining my high school weight. How many do you eat every day?

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