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Ceding Arizona To Mexico

June 21, 2010 by  

Ceding Arizona To Mexico

America is losing the battle along the border with Mexico—apparently without a fight. As proof, a swatch of Arizona 80 miles wide that runs from the Mexican border about three counties deep into the state (encompassing about 3,500 acres) has been ceded to Mexicans.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu told Fox News that armed paramilitary elements control a portion of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge and other parts of Arizona. But rather than try and reclaim it, signs have been posted marking the area as off limits to Americans.

It was closed in October 2006, due to human safety concerns, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The signs read: “Danger—Public Warning. Travel Not Recommended.” To see a clip of Babeu’s interview click here.

The squad-sized (in American military parlance a squad refers to two teams of four or five soldiers each) armed paramilitary elements Babeu referred to are drug smugglers and human traffickers out of Mexico. And violence there has increased the last fourth months.

He conceded that neither he nor other local sheriff’s departments and city police forces had the manpower to take the area back. It’s going to take the U.S. military, he said, and that’s why Babeu, his fellow law enforcement heads and Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) recently asked Obama for 3,000 National Guard troops.

Obama responded by promising Arizona Governor Jan Brewer he’d get back to her. He hasn’t.

As I wrote last week in Breaking Their Oath, this is not the only place armed elements have crossed the Mexican border in the U.S. There have been many sightings reported—and several videos made to back them up—of either elements of the Mexican military or police forces crossing the border in force. There have also been shootouts with U.S. Border agents.

Just recently a young smuggler was killed by U.S. Border agents and armed agents from Mexico fired on them as they investigated the scene of the shooting.

Breaking Their Oath demonstrated how Obama and the current Congress, as well as Presidents and Congresses past, have failed to live up to their oath of office and protect America from invasion.

The situation in the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge demonstrates that the fascist elected elites are either feckless and weak or they have an agenda that is contrary to the best interests of our nation. It also demonstrates why Arizona’s recently passed immigration law was necessary.

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There were a lot of interesting comments to last week’s article. The vast majority agreed with Arizona’s soon-to-be-enacted immigration law which will make it a crime to be an illegal alien in the state.

Many were like this one from a person calling himself American Citizen who said,

“The only pertinent word about all of this is ‘illegal.’ They are criminals as soon as they step foot on our territory. Nationality means nothing here.”

Al Seiber is very familiar with what’s going on in Arizona. He has friends near the border. He posted,

“My friends live 1200′ from the border, out of Sierra Vista, Ariz. they told me they find more prayer mats then anything. I find lot’s of back packs, with tortillas and water bottles in them.”

Some commenters think the answer is a fence along the border: a fence that Washington obviously has no interest in completing. Typical of that line of thinking comes from someone calling himself bp who wrote,

“People are WALKING over the border with their backpacks long before they stand on the street corner for a day job! Fences, we need SERIOUS fences (like the ones we build around our prisons) and the kind of armored vehicles that the Mexican Polizia showed us last week (when one of their smugglers was killed on U.S. soil)! Who knew they had these?!”

Not all agree. A regular liberal commenter who calls himself Denniso had this to say:

“Bob Livingston says ‘we are being invaded and the gov’t is doing nothing to stop it’. Is that supposed to be a joke? I just drove along a part of the border and the highway was full of border patrol vehicles, driving back and forth. We have thousands more border patrol agents than we’ve ever had all along the border, at a cost of billions of dollars per year…what is that? doing nothing?

Come on Bob, don’t twist the facts just to stir up the hotheads in the country more than they already are. If thousands of agents swarming the border is doing nothing and building a ridiculous and multi billion $$ wall is nothing, then I wonder what it is you would consider doing something?”

No Denniso. Unfortunately it is no joke. Usually you provide coherent dissenting commentary. Not this time.

There are places—like the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge and surrounding territory—where agents don’t go, but armed insurgents from across the border do. And ask the residents of some of the border towns about the armed Mexican helicopters—sometimes seen hovering over houses and shining spotlights at night as if searching for someone or something—and how they feel about what is being done to protect them.

Certainly more could be done by the Federal government if the fascist elites in power wanted something done. Big John in Virginia had a good suggestion. He wrote,

“Why do we have 37,000 troops on the border between North and South Korea, but we can’t put enough on our borders to protect us? Let’s all go to Arizona for vacations this year. I am. I’ve always wanted to see the Grand Canyon!! Help make up for the boycotts. See ya there!!!”

Or, we could reduce the size of Empire America and just bring those troops home and put them along our border. But visiting Arizona is always a good idea.

And refuse2lose commented, sarcastically I suppose,

“I would like to challenge any person that is against the Arizona immigration bill to call your representatives in congress, also write a letter to Obama and tell them that the federal immigration law needs to be shredded and a new one needs to be written up. Because, in case you are like Obama, Holder and Napolitano who didn’t take time to read the bill but got on tv and condemned it, I have actually read the bill and it is EXACTLY like the federal bill. So if you are accusing Arizonians of being profilers then you are in fact accusing your liberal icons of profiling.”

The grammar’s not great, but you get the drift. Actually, letting your fascist elected representative know how you feel about the illegal immigration situation is not a bad idea. So we’ve come up with a way you can do that. First, you can go here and vote in our Immigration Reform Poll.

So far 97 percent of those who’ve voted believe America should follow Arizona’s lead when it comes to immigration reform. And a whopping 92 percent of respondents would like to see their state pass a similar immigration law.

After you’ve voted, send the link to your friends and family and ask them to vote as well. The results will be shared with major media outlets across the country, so the more votes cast the better.

You can also contact your Congressweasel (or Congressman if his or her name happens to be Ron Paul or Michelle Bachman or one or two others) and let him or her know how you feel. If you don’t know how to contact your Senator or Representative you can find him or her by going here.

As rob posted:

“’We the People’ need to start being seen in ‘GREATER’ numbers and heard from in masses. We need to see and hear from candidates where they stand on major issues and hold them accountable. Why is it we are not asking our candidates or elected officials outright on their stance with major issues as immigration. Quit hiding….. NOW is our opportunity to be heard….NOW is our opportunity to be seen…. November is coming soon…. don’t pass it up.”

Why indeed? What better way to know where they stand than by asking them yourself? We’ve done the hard part for you. You no longer have an excuse.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    Does anyone not understand that Mr. Obama is anything but a leader? What will it take for America to admit that Mr. Obama couldn’t care less about protecting the rights of ANY state – let alone Arizona?
    How can anyone not yet see that we have an imposter in the White House? He’s a fifth-rate magician and a flimflammer who deserves no one’s respect. He has no respect for America, and I have no respect for him or anyone like him.
    I no longer live in Arizona, yet I feel Arizona’s outrage for this one-man disgrace who acts as though being America’s worst prez is akin to a universal merit badge. It is too late for Mr. Obama to apologize and ask for forgiveness. It is time for a progressive’s progressive to do the unthinkable.
    Do what RMN did, Mr. Obama. Resign, Mr. Obama. Go somewhere else, Mr. Obama. You’ve EARNED your place in history.

    • C S

      I agree, but I must say it sends chills down my spine and makes me sick to my stomach when I hear “President” in front of Obama’s name, and I can’t say “Mr.” as freely as you do, since I have NO respect for this abomination to our country. I don’t think I could refer to him as “Dumb A**” – this would be confusing, since their are so many in congress any more, so I think I am just going to start refering to him as “Commi” since this is what he has been forcing on our people. And I did say “our people”, because we are NOT the Commi’s people. I do live in Arizona, raised my children here and they all still live here. We really do love our State, and WE WANT IT BACK!!! THE COMMI HAS TO GO – IF YOU NEED A VOTE FROM THE PEOPLE – MY VOTE IS TWO THUMBS UP FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION AND REMOVAL FROM THIS POSITION. Maybe if the Commi were fired, he would better understand why so many are so angree about the unemployment rates – they say the unemployment rates are getting better, that’s only because they are only publicizing the “newly” unemployed, they are not counting the unemployed whom have been on the roles for over a certain number of days, nor are they including the unemployed whose unemployment ran out and was forced on welfare to feed their children. I want to know where the COMMI has planned to put all the SOUP LINES? The bad thing is: almost no one can prepare for the next economic title wave, their is no money to stock food (even if it weren’t illegal), food hording is illegal, refering to illegals as “Immigrants” is forbidden by the COMMI, The COMMI wants to take our guns – and if he can’t get them he is going to tax them on an annual bases, he sent troops to help at the boarder but only to do paper work on behalf of the illegal “aliens”, COMMI wants to just give them all SS cards from our United States so that they are no longer illegal (they all already have had a free pass to rape, pillage, steal, etc. why should we give them a license to do the same?) I am part native american, and just the other day I received a small figureen that said “We were free until we stopped fighting, now no one has freedom” – Chief Tawonka. Not only do we NOT have any freedoms – but now we have servitude and slavery forced upon us by individuals whom someone else put into office (I don’t believe COMMI really got the “people’s” vote)and the COMMI has placed other like minded COMMI thinking individuals in to his cabinet, congress, supreme court, etc. We are surrounded, who is going to fight if we don’t. We MUST get the COMMI’s out of public office and into prison where they belong! They are an abomination of what “We The People” of the “United States” stand for!!!!!

      • kate8

        There may yet be hope on the horizon.


        AP – WASHINGTON D.C. -
        In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
        This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

        Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…


        Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

        While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

        So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

        And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

        The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

        Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
        A : Yes, by his own admission.

        Q: What passport did he travel under?
        A: There are only three possibilities.
        1) He traveled with a U.S… Passport,
        2) He traveled with a British passport, or
        3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

        Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
        A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S… State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

        Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

        If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

        Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

        Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

        If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.

        If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans

        Check this out. This is huge. Let’s all pray the SCOTUS does the right thing!

        • Airangel

          Woohoo! I won’t hold my breath though that Holder will do the right thing! He’s probably already knows OB is not eligible and is groaning that he might be forced into doing something against “the elitist plan”…

          • kate8

            This, along with the recent revelation that NO birth certificate exists in Hawaii, and that Obama was definitely NOT born in Hawaii…

            The mask of Barack Obama is falling off, and little Barry Soetoro is emerging…

            Barack Obama is being exposed for the illusion he is, nothing but an empty suit placed in front of a teleprompter and hyped by media.

            I have a feeling that things are about to take a turn our way. I had a dream last night that I haven’t quite figured out yet. Then, this morning, I heard a man who has accurately predicted many events, say that God is intervening in America. He said that he saw bad legislation being overturned, and leaders having change of heart. He said that it would appear that things are going bad for awhile, but this year or next, things will begin to reverse. He said that the SCOTUS will also come around.

            This is what we need to hold in our minds and hearts. The first step is pulling back the curtain and shining light onto what has been hidden. Then we can begin to change it through our focused determination. We will take back all that is being stolen, including our land.

          • Gordon DeSpain


            Duly forwarded to my Email list, along with instructions, “Heed, Act, and, Forward to your Email lists.”

          • Denniso

            You people are such willing dupes…that ‘AP story’ is an email hoax. You hate Obama so much that you are willing to believe anything that any kook puts on the internet…I imagine the next will be that Obama is an alien from Venus w/ secret powers designe to vaporize the entire earth and sell the residue to an alien sand and gravel company…come on folks, stop the childish hysteria, it’s getting more ridiculous every day.

          • JC

            Denniso…if it’s a hoax, then answer the question.
            Who’s passport was he flying around on?
            And here’s another one…Why was he in a California school as a foreign exchange student named Barry Soetoro?
            And why so many social security numbers?

            The only hoax here is Barry himself.

          • Denniso

            You’re quoting more lies to support the hoax email. Do something productive and helpful to society and quit following and wasting your mind and time on all these lies being intentionally spread by Obama haters…

        • larry

          that is the BEST news i have read since the last pres election. i am so happy i cud just s++t.

        • yougottabekidding

          Please…can we at least see something original.

          • kate8

            yougot…Just can’t handle the truth, can you?

            You prefer to rely on a self-proclaimed “authority” like Snopes. Snopes is just a couple operating from their living room, working with the leftist agenda.

            Some people are just so easy. You just accept sites like “Snopes” without even asking whereby they get their all-knowing insight.

            LOL. People like you are dangerous.

          • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

            I think Obama is ruining this country but I believe that is a contrieved e-mail that has been circulating for a long time.

          • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

            I should also add that I believe Snoopes is totally left wing.

          • http://naver samurai

            Have we been drinking the kool aid today? If you support Obama bin Laden on this, I really feel sorry for you. Soon the hand of God will decend on Washington and clean house. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • kate8

            Bruce D, the release date for the article is May 24, 2010.

            The Supreme Court was scheduled to hear this case in June (or July?), can’t quite recall. That would be about now. Of course, the media has been ignoring this all along.

            And Columbia U didn’t release Obama’s phoney records until very recently.

            For these reasons I assume the article is timely.

          • JC

            Bruce the email is not contrived. They’re simply facts.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            In case any of you are interested in the truth, Snopes is a man and his wife that say whether things are true or not. Its a fact. Its a guy and his wife, so if they have an agenda one way or the other, they can tweak their answers to fit it. I have caught them red handed in lying about things in the past, whether intentional or not, but if your supposed to be the ones who enlighten people on whether something is true or not, you cant spew your opinion and ignore the facts as they have done with some things in the past. Barry Soetore became Barrack Hussein Obama, and it doesnt take a wise man to figure that one out. Thats all Im saying.

        • JeffH

          kate8, good post. Although not the highest on my priority list I’m sure it will play out eventually and the real “cat” will be let out of the bag. Too many questions and too many people asking them…there has to be indisputable evidence and if ti’s out there it will eventually surface. Let us hope that evidence wiil come to fruition nd this phony no baloney imposter gets prosecuted to the full extent of the law and everyone involve with him likewise.

          By the way, Beck was all over exposing and linking the Soros/NWO, Petrobras, Obama, BP, John Podesta/Tony Podesta, Cap & Trade, connections today…he was in classic form today.

          • kate8

            JeffH, Yes, I watch Glenn every day. He’s been doing some great work exposing the criminal behavior of this administration and their handlers.

            I just have a feeling things are about to take a turn. Not that things might not get ugly for awhile, but for us, failure is not an option.

          • http://naver samurai

            Hello, JeffH! It’s been awhile. I just want to warn all of you that we may see the return of smilee. He seems to be in bed with Norm these days. I don’t care what they say, just want to warn everyone. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jana

            I have been watching him too. He is a Great American! And, he is doing a thankless and a dangerous job.
            I have to laugh at all of these lefty liberals who get on these posts and TRY to tell us that we are promoting a Revolution with violence. We see that is the Communists way of doing things. These are the ones promoting a violent revolution.

        • http://naver samurai

          You can count on my support and prayers! Let’s send the libs, atheists, and commies that are destroying this country that we want our country back! Thank you for telling this information, Kate8! My prayers are also for you and yours. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! Let’s get back to the ways of our founding fathers and not the whims of the spineless libs, dems, and bleeding hearts in Washington. VICTORY IN THE NAME OF GOD!

        • J.Micheal

          OK,I see you think that getting current president,Barak Obama-Barry- whatever, out of office is going to fix the immigration problem. That is what this discussion is about,right? Let me reread the article,hmmm,yep. I’d like for you to explain that,since this problem didn’t just start to happen when he got elected. I’m not defending him,but the past presidents are just as QUILTY as he is for not dealing with this problem. The past president didn’t solve this issue either. If the Arizona law is a mirror of current Federal law then money is being wasted on taking it to court. The war on drugs isn’t working either,which is what is bringing the violence not someone who just comes looking for work, so how much money has been wasted on that joke of a program?!?!? Thinking that our congresspeople work for us is very naive(refer VOID1972,also)most work on a personal/political agenda, doing just enough to get the votes to stay in power until they get rich(Evan Bayh).Yeah, used his influence to get his wife on 6 insurance companies boards,calls himself a democrat,but votes republican. Go figure?

        • kate8

          After doing more research, it does appear that the Supremes won’t be hearing this case.

          “Hoax” may not be altogether correct, in that several petitions have gone to the Supremes for a hearing on this issue. They have been denied after a visit from Obama and his goons. I do recall earlier this year, Justices Scalia and Thomas agreed to hear the case, and it was scheduled for June or July. I’ve heard no more since then.

          Somehow, it seems that the issue just went away. At any rate, accoding to what I could find out online, the case is not being heard.
          But that is the only part of the article that is lacking in accuracy.

          You have my humblest apologies.

          • JeffH

            kate8…never let an opportunity go to waste…the questions regarding Obama won’t go away, even after he’s forced to resign.

        • LT

          There’s also the problem of obama using a false identity. at one point he went by soeto and with no records on file for a legal name change, (that can be found) he decided to become obama. It’s fraudulent to use a false identity – more so when it’s done to take the office of a senator or the presidency. I know it’s minor compared to the birth question but it’s another nail in the coffin to be added to the “not born in America” problem. The Constitution says the president must be a citizen – and kagan says the constitution is “flexible” (of course she changes what she remembers saying from day to day) so this SC Judge might come in handy should obama’s citizenship problem come before the SC. Of course, IMHO anything he’s done while in office becomes illegal and must be reversed – healthcare, firing McCrystal, naming 2 SC Justices, etc all become illegal acts. This birther question has far reaching potential….

        • 2930

          We Can’t Beleve all that we read because…..’Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.’
          There is no clean end Lets get rid of the ellegels and protect out own borders!

      • Michael O

        AMEN! Didn’t our soldiers in past wars die fighting people like the
        communists and the Nazis? And yet, that’s exactly the type of government we’re seeing in this country now! Remember what the Russian premier of the ’60′s said? “We will bury you!……Economically, of
        course!” Apparently some have not learned from the past. We are seeing
        those words come to light now. Only the Lord Jesus can help any of us now.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Do you mean Nikita Kruschev? Who actually said they would bury us from within. Then: the Russians set up schools to educate their citizenry to think and act American, to infiltrate the media, entertainment, and ecucational system in the U.S. Looks like they have been partiially successful, doesn’t it?

      • Millicent

        We should be calling him Sahib, not president!! I think he should be charged with TREASON & exiled, along with his administration.

        • JC

          To charge him with Treason he’s have to ne an American.
          Perhaps arresting him as a foreign spy would be more appropriate.

      • Steve Thompson

        In a nation based upon the “rule of law” there should be no debate as to whether that rule of law should apply equally to all. The furor over illegal immigrants is well founded – expected, in fact. We should all be able to expect each member of our society to pull his own weight, and to abide by that rule of law.

        To have elected a president who has gained office outside those laws of our nation that govern who can become President is not acceptable.

        If our nation is, indeed, governed by the “rule of law”, and if the requirement that a U S President must have been born in the U S, is an important founding principle, shame on us for failing to thoroughly vet each candidate prior to the election to assure that the principle was properly met!

        One by one, the principles upon which our nation was conceived have been eroded until, in its third century, we’ve become so “politically correct” that, for all intents and purposes, those founding principles no longer exist. The question is: “What are we going to do about this?”

        Our nation was founded by engineers – not by attorneys, yet who do we now choose to run our nation? Engineers, who are schooled on how to make and fix things successfully? No, we’ve chosen to elect lawyers, who are schooled on how to get around things.

        We need one or two additional amendments to our Constitution” The 28th should require that Congress shall pass no law that does not apply equally to each and every member of Congress. The 29th should state that no member of Congress shall derive a benefit from office that does not apply equally to the citizenry of the USA. No more voting themselves raises, no more special retirement benefits, no more special medical benefits, (how can Nancy Pelosi fly back and forth between California and Washington DC each week in a 757, then countenance her colleagues belittling auto industry CEO’s for flying to Washington in private jets?), no more budget-eating staffs. Perhaps the 30th Amendment should require severe term limits to keep Members of Congress from becoming career politicians – so that they represent their constituencies, rather than making their “service” a career?

        Vote “NO” resoundingly – don’t re-elect one incumbent, no matter how “good” you think he is! Better that a rookie make honest mistakes derived from a lack of experience while representing his constituents than that a career politician achieve the same result on purpose, and derive some personal benefit from that “service” each time a “service” is rendered.

        I know, I’m just naive, but I stand on my considered opinion(s) – vote, vote knowledgeably, vote for that which you consider is best for us all (and not for that which will give you an advantage).

        Who can blame Obama for wanting the power of the US Presidency? Who can fault Obama for doing whatever is necessary to secure that office? After all, hasn’t Congress legislated that they cannot be held liable for the lies they tell to secure the office? And haven’t we stood idly by and let them get away with it – and with the other special advantages they’ve bestowed upon themselves?

        You’re right: now is the time to do something about that! Clean house! Vote all incumbents out of office – Obama included!

    • Stewie

      YOU ARE SO RIGHT SC. Obama does not want to seal the border because he and his cronnies want them here. Obama needs their votes. He hates America and wants us to become a thrid world country. He and his family will be rich, so they don’t care about us. The rich will be cared for, and low income will not do anything to lose their cradle to grave benfits. The middle class is a thorn to Obama. We stand up for what is right. We work, pay our taxes, and will vote him out of office.

      • 45caliber

        If the border is open to anyone, Oblama might be able to smuggle the rest of his family into the country along with the millions of other people who want to come here for money or to kill.

      • eddie47d

        You can now leave the North Korean indoctrination camp for which you sprew your trash. By the way how did you get out?

        • JeffH

          fast eddie is starting to sound like duh!nisso…waaa waaa!
          Unraveling before your very eyes…huh?

          • eddie47d

            Another indoctrinator heard from ,I’m so surprised.

        • http://naver samurai

          Korth Korea, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! Can’t lead your herd of sheep by the nose anymore eddie haskel? Why do you mention North Korea which you know nothing about? Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Just another sheeple. I agree with you JeffH. The ball is certainly rolling in favor of what’s right.

        • JC

          Boy! That’s some argument there eddie, good job. hahaha

    • 45caliber

      I hardly believe that Oblama is the genius intellect that many people seem to be giving him credit for. Like Clinton, I think he is a face that is directed from behind the curtains by others. He is told what to do, and he does it to the best of his ability regardless of who it might harm or what it might take.

      What I want to know is who is behind him?

      • eddie47d

        Well G. Bush had Cheney behind him. No one could figure out who was the dummy and who was the ventriloquist. Oh Well keep looking for that perfect politician.

        • Millicent

          G. Bush was trying to clean up the mess that Hilary & “Billy Boy” left

          • Hugh Jordan

            as Obama is cleaning up Bush’s mess. The country will suffer from the legacy of ALL these jerks for decades.

            The real people pulling the strings are people you will never hear of.

          • JeffH

            Hugh Jordan, Soros gets in the news from time to time…he’s got one of the strings, kind of a billionare liaison if you will…one with a tremendous hold over Washington politics I might add.

          • JC

            Hugh, Obama is cleaning up NOTHING. That low-life is doing his Allah loving best to finish us off!

          • http://naver samurai

            Hugh, are you blind or something? Reagan cleaned up Carter’s mess. Bush cleaned up Hillary’s mess, oops! Bill was the president, wasn’t he? Now who will clean up the mess that Obama bin Laden has made? Think real hard about it! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            well i cant pass putting my 2cents worth on the messes these bums did while in office,and i will say this only once ,yes they all needed diapers,for all the stink they left behind,but dont blame yourselfs,for in thruth we only vote for canidates that are selected by the speical few that run this country,so please dont beat yourselfs up,we have been all taken for a ride for at least 24yrs,but who knows for sure,time to get grass root people in that will help this nation,for all the past bums weve had have been killing the very freedoms we have had,time for every voter to think about,what will happen to themselfs and their families if these puppet presidents keep doing the bidding of this (NWO BUNCH,just think about it.myself i say its time to get new blood in washington,all these other folks have been eating at the dinner table too long,and have stolen the silverware and the house has been cleaned out to many times,they have left nothing,time to throw them all out,the corrupt ones.

          • eddie47d

            I’ll take their “mess” anyday over what Bush left us with.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          We ALL know who the dummy is here!!! edduh47Duh!!!!!!!

          • JeffH

            Amen, Joe H, samauri, kate8, Jana, usmadgirl, Angel, Claire, Dave H, Bereberoi, Raggs, i41, Al Seiber, Bruce D, JC, Airangel, Warrior, 45caliber, Steve, chuck b, bp and all of you that I missed that are contributing to the cause of turning our country back to a constitutional republic of the people and for the people, one nation under God.

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks JeffH. I really appreciate that after the very hard confrontation I had with smilee and abnorm double teaming me. I was able to put out a few sources they couldn’t argue against and they eventually left me alone. Thank goodnes for them. Keep up the good fight! No retreat, no surrender! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Fast Eddie is struggling getting a grip on the truth. He tries to defend undefendable actions by this administration, who hasnt a clue what to do, or what they are doing. All they know is to stand there, point the finger, and place blame. No ideas, no solutions, no plans, just place blame. Thats why they are all leaving the scene.

        • all american Sam

          Do you really beleive what you say?.Your very unamerican attitude shows only one the thing , Your lack of education and your blind back woods reasoning. Where have you been for the last ten years. Your Boy Bush destroyed America.Obama was elected by americans tired of Closed Door dealings of Bush and His Oil boys Including The Saudi Royal Family. Where were you on 9/11? under a rock. The Saudi’s Run airplains into our buildings and Bush sticks his head in the sand,and allows them to leave America ,NO QUESTION ASKED.And Lies outright to Americans and Bombs the wrong people. Thats probably ok with you.I spent time in Irag fighting to keep america safe.When you see these children suffering, there tattered bodys , broken and defeated. One Boy missing both arms asked me ‘Why kill me , don’t american Love there children’I Cried like a little baby. Put my arms down and left the service.You have to think about what you do and what you say ,it could not only hurt you, It hurts America

          • JC

            I’m sorry for your experiences, no one should have to go through that.
            But are you suggesting that the present administration is somehow doing the right things?

          • eddie47d

            All American Sam,Thanks for your service.I’ve listened to Jeff H. for quite some time now and he still lives under a rock. He loves wars in books and the patriotic death of his fellow Americans. He has killing in his blood. Those of us who left the service know what wars do to veterans and to their country.Jeff likes to listen to Glenn Beck who gives teary eyed versions of war. Not the real insanity of it all. Limbaugh and Cheney like to grandstand on wars too. If they only knew the truth.

          • http://naver samurai

            And you eddie haskel love to destroy America from the inside, don’t you?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Your confused. Under Clinton, these guys blew up the WTC basement, they beat our soldiers dead dragging them naked through the streets of somalia. They blew up the USS Cole, and they threatened us at every turn. Due to Clinton cutting our intelligence agencies in half, these guys entered our country and roamed around undetected, trained for over 5 years of Clinton’s reign, then planned and blew up the WTC on 9-11. Bush said thats enough, and started going after these guys. About time dont you think? Yet you lilly livered left wing liberals say he went after Saddam for his dad. What the hell are you thinking. I applaud Bush’s efforts, however with the new admin we have taken 10 steps backwards, they force the general running things to retire because they didnt like him telling the truth, like letting people know the president had talked to him once in 6 weeks. Thats real leadership on Obama’s part isnt it. Then these wankers in charge had to be reminded what their general’s name was that was fighting this war. Come on man, smell the roses. Smell the incompetance in front of you. We needed to rid the world of Saddam, and rid the world of Ahminijed and of the idiot in North Korea. Myself, I would do it a little different. One of them would have been a sheet of glass by now, but thats me. I learned from history, and I saw all the lives that Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved. Id level one of them, then ask the rest of they have questions. That I believe would be the end of the discussion. You see, your left wing liberal pacifism doesnt work. It never has, and it never will. Only by force, has peace EVER BEEN ATTAINED. Once you understand that, you speak the language of our enemy. You want them to understand, speak their language. Or we could do like you liberals want, and sit down and have glass of wine with them over a candle lit dinner, and tell them how sorry we are that we are such a successful country and that we are really sorry that they are losers, while they are planning their next move on how to cut our heads off. Until you understand that, your missing the boat pal.

        • NM

          Does the 47 mean you were born in 1947 or is that your IQ?

      • Michael O

        The Bilderburgs, Rothchilds, Roosevelts, and other multimillion dollar industrialists, one-world order and other scum of the earth,
        along with Israel now control the presidency, as well as the rest of this sick world.

        • Angel

          Really glad to see that there are a couple of you that know what is truly going on. I have been researching this for a long time now from the Knights Templar to the Free Masons and Illuminati. A global agenda is what they do definitely have and a goal to depopulate the world. There is evidence that AIDS was genetically manufactured and the World Health Organization put it in small pox vaccinations and used it in the third world countries to depopulate. It is really sickening what these satanists have up their sleeves…and satanists they are!

          • kate8

            Angel, many of us do know all of this. And it’s time we come right out and expose it for all to see, instead of worrying about offending sensibilities.

            The sooner we stop being afraid to see the truth, the sooner we can reclaim our personal sovereignty.

            God be with us.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            My father was a Mason for about 50 years. He was also a deacon at his baptist church and was a very strong believer in God and our savior. He served his country for six years during WW2 and right before. Kinda blows your satinist view of them all to hell and gone!!! I knew almost everyone in his local order. In fact, I lived in the Eastern Star Villa in Adrian michigan when I was about six years old. In case you want to check what I’m saying, Mr and Mrs Fred Bell were the managers of the house when I was there! I’m not real up on the illuminati so I would not begin to argue with you on their role in the down fall of the U.S. but I can assure you the michigan and Ohio chapters are not alligned with the illuminati in this matter!

          • Conservative at Birth

            What evidence is that, that aids was created genetically? All the scientific articles I have read, indicate it started in Africa, with humans either having sex with or eating the infected brains of small primates.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Check again. The aids virus was started in Haiti from homosexual behavior. These same Haitians migrated illegally to Florida, and it spread through the United States and the world from there, being that people are sexual deviates and perverted and sleep with their own kind. Now some innocents get it from blood transfusions and from accidents involving someone that carries it in their blood system. Some get it from sex with a woman who has been with a man that has it. More than not, 90 percent get it from having sex out of wedlock, and it all started with homosexuals in Haiti. Some say its God’s judgment against the gays, but I dont think so. He will mete out that judgment later. They still have time to repent.

        • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

          I am really not a fan of Israel but I do not know how you can possibly say they control Obama. I have never seen any president show the opposition to Israel that Obama does. The demise of American principles and culture has now gone mainstream and is sanctioned by the mainstream media. It is promoted in Ivy Leagur schools in the form of progressivism. The president is openingly anti-American in his trips to Europe and has vowed to changed America to a progressive agenda. There is nothing secret about that.

      • Sharon Farrell

        Hi 45caliber, The people behind Nobama are, among other losers, those 36 unvetted highly paid Czar criminals.
        These men and women were not approved or even mentioned to our Congress who legally should have looked into the pasts of these people before they were even offered a job in our government . We…the people had no idea who they are. We do now.

        The “Whistleblower”, November 2009 published the article “The Shadow Government’ by David Kupelian giving the information and pictures of these Czars. They are not anyone you would invite home. They are socialists and communists. They are a real danger to our country.
        I think you might find the article on the internet under the Whistleblower magazine website.
        Keep writing we will be victorious in getting that fraud Obama out of office that he is not eligibile to be in that post.

        • 45caliber

          I believe CLinton was selected and placed in office by the same people who are behind Oblama. He didn’t have watchers/baby sitters. I believe that the czars are selected as watchers for Oblama. They are there to insure that he does nothing that is not approved elsewhere. Some are certainly in on the planning but I doubt if any of them are the real planners. I’m not even sure Soros is although I do believe he is part of the group of supporters.

          • JeffH

            45caliber, Soros is the biggest easily identified player…too many connections with him to DC politics and through all of his 527C organizations.
            Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to “developing a long-term vision of a progressive America” and “providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals.”

            Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.

            …and who could forget the Democratic Party: Soros’ funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 “is the central focus of my life” … “a matter of life and death.” He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. “America under Bush,” he said, “is a danger to the world, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.” Claiming that “the Republican party has been captured by a bunch of extremists,” Soros accuses the Bush administration of following a “supremacist ideology” in whose rhetoric he claims to hear echoes of “Nazi slogans.”

    • Joe K

      S C,

      I agree entirely with your estimation of Obama. The thing that concerns me is how the heck did a jerk like this land in our White House to begin with? I honestly do not believe a majority of Americans, of any or any group of ethnic groups combined could possibly be so stupid as to put this guy in office. Nor can I believe that McCain’s nomination was much less a product of manipulation and dirty tricks than was Obamas’ (a little less, but not much)..

      If there is only the tiniest fraction of truth in the proposition that Obama was selected, not elected, then we are in deep doo doo even when he is gone. We’re done, and that scars the hell out of me. The way I see it, there are two possibilities to explain how Obama got in the white house in the first place: 1) The majority of Americans have demonstrated that they are stupid, or 2) The election that put him there was engineered and fraudulent. Either one of those possibilities saddens the hell out of me. Is Freedom dying?

      • eddie47d

        Your wrong on both point #1&2 but you can sing to the wind all you want.

        • Angel

          Dude…I think you better thing again. Do some intelligent research as I have…for over 3 years…almost 7 hours a day. Actually longer than 3 years because I first heard about the shadow government and their agenda for global control in 1981. Before you come off sounding unintelligent again, really do some research!!!

          • JeffH

            Angel, the best arguement fast eddie can make is …UH HUH! Has he ever provided a verifiable arguement with any kind of substance…NO! Never, nada or in his case…uh huh!

          • eddie47d

            Yup, Reagan was in the White House in 1981. That says a mouth full.

          • Ted Crawford

            eddie is simply trying to secure and increase his entitlement payments!!

        • Joe K

          Well, if I don’t miss my guess, there IS a strong wind coming. If Obama gets his way, it’ll blow freedom away. Then again, there is another strong wind coming, and it is in harmony with my own thoughts. Consider, for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If this is true, you are going to see a turn around in America that will blow the socialist and communist wannabes out of the political arena in America. I guess it just depends on which wind blows the hardest, huh?

        • Conservative at Birth

          What the hell are you talking about. Your posts lack any semblance of intelligence.

          • Joe K

            Intelligence is not required to be a liberal. This is why, while you must ask a conservative what he or she thinks about an issue, you must ask a liberal how he or she FEELS about an issue. Who was it that once said “Facts and truth are to a liberal what holy water and crucifixes are to vampires”. Who ever said that called it pretty good.

          • http://naver samurai

            Don’t you have to be able to read and graduate from school to be considered intelligent?

        • Millicent

          Eddie, I want you to look back on this Fiasco and know that “Stupid” will have America speaking Arabic/Muslim or be executed!! I just shudder to think of my Country submitting to this. I will pray that come November, we can start turning this around and that the USA will wake up and we still be a free Nation.

        • http://naver samurai

          I don’t know about singing into the wind, but you seem to be spitting into the wind. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • NM

          Again, is 47 the year you were born or is that your IQ?

      • JC

        Sounds about right Joe. He was fraudulently in the race and elected by people who voted for color or just plain against McCain.
        It’s understandable when you see the vast number of Americans who recieve benefit for doing nothing, and the globalist propoganda machine working in concert.

        We’ve been had by a shyster.

        • Joe K

          What can I say? I voted for McCain, but I would have voted against him myself if there had been a better choice. The election was kind of like this: You can have a stick in the eye or a kick in the groin. Pick one. I chose the stick in the eye. I think that gives me the right to complain, LOL.

      • Pat R

        I read somewhere that it had been determined back in 2005 that Obama would be the next President. (Wish I had saved the link!) If you research the Illuminata, Bilderberger, and the Secret Society, you will find that Most of the Big Oil Co,s are members, along with many of our
        “elite” namely Joe Biden, Bill & Hillary Clinton, both Bushes, Rahm Emmanuel and on & on.
        This Immigration problem is being allowed on purpose. Obama and friends do not want to end it. Please contact our Rep.s and Sen.s and tell them how we feel. Demand that they get off their a$$ and do something about it. If we keep enough pressure on; they will have to respond!
        God Bless America Again! Keep the Faith and Live in Prayer.

        • Ted Crawford

          Every president since Eisenhower, with the one exception of Regan, have been members!!

      • kate8

        Joe K, I believe that you are absolutely right.

        Is freedom dying? It is taking a hit, but as long as those of us who carry the spirit of freedom within us have breath, it will not die!

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I believe Obama will be a one term president however the polls are 51% against Obama & 46% for despite his incompetence. He is still within the numbers where the election can go either way. We have a lot of people in this country who do not share American values of hard work. Hillary Clinton promised Pueto Rico residents $5,000 dollars each if they would vote for her in the primary. They voted for her. I think Obama knows the only way he will get elected again is if he gives away as much money as possible and is asking for 50 billion more to give away. I personally believe because of the size of the national debt it will backfire on him.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The republicans made it easy for Obummer to become president, when they decided to run a 150 year old career politician against him. Everyone is tired of these career politicians, and looking for something or someone new, so running McCain was the stupidest thing I think the Republicans have ever done in their existance, and the republican voter base to vote for him to run was the dumbest thing so called conservative voters ever did. As soon as I saw McCain was the guy, I, and all of business America knew it was over.

    • Karyn, Arizona

      There are not Thousands of Boder patrol Swarming The Area -
      I have had extensive contact with BP and their biggest problem is lack of manpower followed by equipment – and HAMSTRINGED by LAWS.

    • Karyn, Arizona


    • Barney

      So this illegal alien thing all started in the last 18 months?maybe he could grant them amnesty

  • john

    Now i have heard it all! Is this true,how can this be happening? Mexican military on US soil! This is an act of war! Arizona is under siege! All freedom loving americans should get there rifles ,go to Sierra Vista and put these invaders down! If they mean to have a war let it begin here.

    • Jackal

      Yeah, let’s have a war where freedom loving Americans can combine a vacation to the Grand Canyon with picking off a few Mexicans to make the holiday video more interesting. A travel agency could create an itinerary to include gun rentals and other necessary equipment (white sheets etc,).

      • Bill

        Ignorant FOOL!

        • jeffrey raymond

          Muslims with terrorist training camps in America, Obama does nothing! Mexicans invading the southern borders like a line of ants walking across like it was nothing, unopposed in the least, obama does nothing! We start losing our America soil, the borders slowing being moved north, property stolen, kidnapping, murder, theft, crime, drug and illegal trafficing and again this lousy lying traitor to the oath to defend America from foreign and domestic enemies is an impeachable offense. Not even mentioning the fraud and bribery. IF our corrupt government can’t protect us then we real Americans must take up arms to protect and defend ourselves. Now Obama wants to sue Az? Isn’t that amazing and it sure tells you where his allegence lies. This administration agenda is to destroy America. Say what you will about Bush but we never had any attacks on our soldiers,or on our country until the muslim obama stole, lied, and bought his way into the WH.
          Obama has to go, impeach this bast@#d before he ruins us. WE have proof his is ineligable and have enough to rid ourselves of this POS so why do we continue to tolerate the domestic enemy in the white house? It’s clear to everyone what his plan is and it’s not to save American jobs, healthcare or its people. IT’s to bankrupt, devalue the dollar, play the race card, blame the previous administration, deny deny deny any questions of inproprities. America will never surrender our guns. We have a right to defend ourselves against foreign aggression, including the foreign armed troops obama installed on Nato troops on American soil. I asked one why he was here. ANSWER? TO CONTAIN, CONTROL, AND CROWD DISPERSMENT. AMERICA, WAKE UP WE ARE INCHES FROM A CIVIL WAR, MARSHALL LAW AND IMPRISONMENT OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS ADMINISTRATION.


          • marylee

            all I have to say….AMEN to the comments you made! What is it going to take to IMPEACH this idiot! USA is going to ruin in a hurry with him in the White House – time for a clean sweep – all his cazars and any one connected with him! We need to let Arizona know we are behind them 100%.

          • JC

            Well said.
            This is about our last warning.

          • larry

            “…. including the foreign armed troops obama installed on Nato troops on American soil. I asked one why he was here. ANSWER? TO CONTAIN, CONTROL, AND CROWD DISPERSMENT. ” please elaborate – WHERE are there NATO troops on US soil??????? i can NOT believe this ! ! ! ! ! in the unbelievable event that this is true, the impostor has gone TOO FAR ! ! EVERY citizen, including the liberals and dems, should be OUTRAGED and on the phone to ALL their elected reps DEMANDING that NATO troops be sent OFF these shores IMMEDIATELY ! ! can you spell O U T R A G E D ?? ? ? ? GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrr

          • bp

            jeffrey: “contain, control & crowd dispursement” NATO troops? What this administration wants is civil unrest to impose martial law. Put away your guns. We must remain peaceful. Our power lies in the ballot box.

          • marc

            Impeach muslimbama,pelosi,clintons,reid,kerrys,bidens,in fact how about the entire democratic and republican parties. Charges to include corruption,incompetance,treason and they cannot be protected by legal malpractice.

          • JeffH

            Impeach, expel Barack Obama

            sign A PETITION for:
            The Impeachment of Senator Barack Obama


          • Ted Crawford

            I see you are aware of EO-13524! That is a scarey thing! Isn’t it?

        • http://CedingArizonatoMexico “Warrior”

          Methinks you are talking about Jackall and yes he is.

        • http://YAHOO PATSY WEICK

          PATSY WEICK

        • eddie47d

          Not necessarily, It could be just another one of those black helicopter stories or death camp stories. Now take a deep breath!

          • eddie47d

            We know how this site loves those conspiracy theories JC.

          • Angel

            Didn’t you here Mr Ed…it is no longer a conspiracy theory…it has become fact! Do some research!

          • Al Sieber

            Hey eddie47d, define a conspiracy theory? it has 3 parts. it’s easy to throw that argument around when you’re ignorant. I stand with JC, at least he does his research.

          • JC

            No theories eduardo…just facts. Are you able to correlate facts into a “thought”? Apparently not if it doesn’t suit your ant hill mentality.
            Most of the folks around here who don’t identify with ACORN are very much able to correlate hard information…you, unfortunately lack that ability.

          • Ted Crawford

            eddie, please explain EO-13524!

      • JC

        Hey Jack@$$ This is serious.

      • barb m

        he didn’t say he wanted to go there and pick off mexicans. he said go tereand spend money to make up for the boycotts. what an idiot.

      • http://CedingArizonatoMexico “Warrior”

        Ok Jackall,

        Just what would your suggestion be. Lay down and let the Mexicans take our land from us?

      • 45caliber

        There is one thing about giving the Mexicans this route and land. You can bet none of the legal Mexicans are there.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The way its looking, someday soon we will be playing Cowboy and Mexicans, and the Cowboys are going to kick some serious butt.

      • Joe K

        Sounds like a great idea to me, accept that part about renting guns. When you get your travel agency started up, you can advertise it this way: “All invader guns are the automatic property of the person who shoots the invader.”

        No, I really am not that big a moron. I just thought I would see if I could get a rise out of someone who is.

    • CJ

      They’re taking a page right out of our history books. Just walk in and “squat” where you want. Keep it remote enough, and the government has to decide between the right thing and the easy thing. When the right thing is too hard, the opposing force wins. Little by little, the take over happens. To be successful, we need a massive offensive to take care of it quickly, but our liberal friends consider that too aggressive, so governments have to take the slow, less productive, and most costly approach. If someone needs to be offended from our actions, let it be the liberals so we can get the job done and over with.

      • Henry Miller

        But sir, we are the World’s most liberal country. But we have had regions that were very conservative. For example the Old South. I believe that’s where the tea baggers want to take our country back – TO.

        BTW, all successful country’s are liberal.

        • Rabbitman

          Define “successful country”. Until this administration and in spite of the periods of liberal domination in congress, WE were the most successful country, built upon conservative principles. The liberal, Socialist, left-leaning European countries are hardly successful. The entire world is in financial and social disarray. The source of the collapse can be directly attributed to the “Progressive” mindset. Now we have joined them and they are gleeful about it. The adage “misery loves company” still applies.

          • bp

            Agreed, Rabbitman; “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy” and shared misery. -Winston L.S. Churchill

        • http://personallibertydigest Dave

          Like Greece………..

        • Bill

          You have that worded wrong, it’s the Tea Party. Teabaggers would be you and your homo friends.

          • Rabbitman

            Typical, uninformed, and immature.

        • marvin

          Henry Miller i don,t know any tea bagger i am sure a homosexual like you have someone one tea bagging you, tea party people don,t do sick acts

        • kate8

          Really, Henry?

          How is it, then, that the most bankrupt states are also the most liberal ones? The same goes true for cities.

          Conversely, the most conservative ones are the most solvent.

          • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

            Good point!

          • JeffH

            California for instance? Once touted as the sixth largest economy in the world…now a pittance…

        • 45caliber

          Liberals are proponents of “change”. Conservatives are not against change; they are against untested change.

          What we prefer to do is keep what we KNOW works okay while we tweak it a little. If it doesn’t work, we can immediately go back to what we had and no one is particularly harmed. If it does work, then we will continue to apply it cautiously until we totally satisfied with the change.

          The Liberals simply want to change for change’s sake – usually because someone had a new idea. If it works, good. If it doesn’t work, then it’s time to try another idea – even if it has already been proven to fail in the past. You must keep changing. And if people are harmed – well, oh well. “Sacrifices must be made.”

          • kate8

            45, Actually, the change liberals are after (communism/Marxism/socialism) is WELL PROVEN. To be a disaster!

            They just never learn. It’s the dream of something for nothing. The problem is, it just doesn’t work.

          • 45caliber


            It is the dream of Utopia where everyone has everything they need and no one has to work except at what they wish to do. In the ideal utopia, some would want to plant and some would want to herd and some would want to paint, etc. Rather than pay for something you would just get whatever you wished automatically – by robots perhaps. Their utopia never gets into the real delivery system. If you want a painting you simply let the painter know. If you need meat, you simply let the butcher know. You never lack anything you want. That allows you to do whatever you want whenever you want.

            It is a nice ideal – but they NEVER think it completely through. In their utopia, everyone is generous and kind. No one would EVER consider taking something someone else had. If you really wanted something you would simply ask and they would give it to you – even if it was a one-of-a-kind item they wanted themselves. There would be no marriage and if you wanted sex with someone, it would be given without question or argument. Love wouldn’t exist except as a general love-everybody type of thing. No one would want power simply because everyone would have whatever they wanted.

            It’s a type of psychosis the psychologists try to treat, usually unsuccessfully.

        • http://naver samurai

          Sorry dude, but it is a fact in history that the most liberal of nations are also the most immoral, unethical, and are always the ones that fall in the end? Take a look at the Roman Empire. When they stood by their convictions, they were strong and invincible. Once they got away from that, it was divided into the East and West Roman Empire. The East stayed the ways of right and the West did not. What happened? The West Roman Empire was conquered by barbarians and Rome was sacked in 474A.D. by the Vandals. Do you think this country, under Obama bin Laden, is the West or East Roman Empire? The East Roman Empire eventually became known as the Byzantine Empire, the first christian nation on the earth. We may be the West now, but we will become the East Roman Empire this coming 2012! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Ted Crawford

            Let’s make take a serious step in that direction much sooner than that!!! On November 2, 2010!!!!!

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          OH YES YOU Are so right! you self serving blind person,so liberal that bill clinton gave away the worlds largest economy and got laid in the presidential office and what a score,young intern,better yet rented out rooms in the white house to asian lobbyist from china,get a real life,this time around the american voters are going to have a field day chopping heads off in the political arena and guess what all the folks that are unemployed and madder than hornets are going to send all the folks that commited this treason againist the american peoples liberties and jobs,are going to be real liberal in the way they get payback against these traitors,in every level of government,and they will all be full blown astronauts when they get thrown out their office windows by the angry voters of this whole nation and guess what henry miller,their will be hundreds of thousands of unemployed democrats too,that have seen the jobs they once had given away to the whole world and yes ,the horse pop is going to hit the fan,so all you liberals best get your last wishes in order because this is it for the evil done to every citizen in this nation,( THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) NOT THE( BANANA REPUBLIC OF AMERICA.WAKE UP TIME IS COMING TO ALL THE STATES OF THIS GREAT REPUBLIC AND MAY GOD BLESS THIS NATION ALWAYS.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          WE are the most successful country in the world sir, and we are not liberal. You may be, and your left wing democrat heroes are, but we are going to find out in 2012 just how many liberals there are, and its not going to be many. Liberalism is what is hurting this country. Liberalism is rampant homo-sexualism, drug abuse, government handouts, crime, killing babies in the womb, giving enemy terrorists lawyers to defend them, imprisoning our own soldiers for fighting for us. Liberalism is a deadly virus that needs illiminated, or it will consume and destroy this whole country. Liberalism practices appeasement sir, and if you check it out, everytime appeasement has been practiced, it has resulted in defeat. Now put down your crack pipe and go pick up your unemployment check. I worked overtime this week, so your probably getting a little extra.

      • eddie47d

        What! I thought you were talking about the American Indian until I read further. Didn’t we squat on their land and they didn’t move fast enough so we killed them!

        • Conservative at Birth

          Ignorant Fool./

        • http://naver samurai

          That’s an old arguement! Get some new material!

        • Convet

          Typical Soros CAP plant. Ignore. He’ll go away. He isn’t smart enough.

    • William

      if we had a president instead of an imposter we would allready have had troops on the border and possibly in mexico. then on the other hand we wouldn’t neeed to because IF we did have a president calderon wouldn’t run his mouth as he does because we would allready have troops on the border,

      • Kinetic1

        Before you blame this all on President Obama, note that Bob is always quick to note that this problem started years ago. These drug lords did not wait to start there assault until the last election results were in, it’s been a growing issue for several administrations. So before you claim that it’s all the liberal’s fault, ask you selves “where were the Reagen or Bush troops?”

        • bob555

          How about the 8 years Clinton was in office?

          • james graham

            There they go again! It’s all Bush’s fault! You know if I was a Liberal I could blame Bush for the worms that got to my peashes.But sence I’m a conservitave I guess I should have sprayed them earlier! Yes until it benifits them they tend to forget about the 8 years we had Clinton and I guess they don’t WANT too remember that the last 2 years of Bush being in office DEM. controlled both houses! Why couldn’t they pass bills then if Bush was so bad for this country? But that’s the way a liberal see it. It’s ALWAYS someone elses fault!

          • JC

            I didn’t bother to read it…did they manage to call anyone a racist?

          • eddie47d

            So true Bob but this comment is for James (up next). Obama has been in office 1 1/2years and everything gets blamed on him. If they don’t then they totally skip over the Bush years and attack Clinton.It’s kind of weird how people think. If Bush caused it then blame him,if Clinton did it then blame him,if Obama started something you dislike then lay it on him. Obama did not create the immigration mess,or the Iraq War,or the housing downfall,or the corruption on wall street,or even jobs leaving America. Yet everyone on this site blames him for problems he did not create. They are the cowards. It is now time for all Americans to stand behind Obama and help him repair all the damage done by others. If Healthcare turns out to be devestating to this country then the history books will not be kind to him for that was his baby. He will be blamed for that or anything else he puts his signature on.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie…knock knock…who’s there?…nobody…nobody who?…nobody that buys the crap you’re selling anymore!

            Real Americans are speaking out against this Marxist Obama you worship so much. It must be terrible to start sinking and feeling a new low after the temporary POTUS HIGH you’ve been experiencing for the last year +. Nothing worse than a heavy duty crash after such a euphoric high. Huh?

        • Vicki

          We don’t need to ask. We live in the here and now. Here is US. Now is 2010. The pres elect is OBAMA. The buck stops HERE and NOW with OBAMA. He has a chance to deal with the problem in a decisive and effective manner. Were he truly the leader people claim he would not complain that Reagan or Bush (either of them) or even Clinton didn’t fix the problem. He would fix the problem.

          Alas as so many of us noticed by his actions with respect to BP Oil, his campaign, his obamacare etc, he is not a leader and may well be just a follower of someones agenda.

        • Allan

          Nothing Obama’s predecessors did has anything to do with him hurting America. How much dishonesty and incompetence do you need to see before you recognize it?

          • eddie47d

            How much Bush/Cheney dishonesty and incompentence did we have to tolerate? I couldn’t resist! Obama is responsible for anything he puts his signature on.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie…Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney….it’s over johnny, it’s over…get used to it…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Ok fast Eddie, back to Obama putting his signature on things, and you say those are his fault. Ok, here we go. They moved the drilling rig into the gulf and started drilling Feb. 2010. Obama had been president over a year, and this rig was moved in under his watch, and began drilling on his watch. Its his signature, its his fault, according to your own words. Question is, why is he standing on his pedestal pointing fingers and placing blame, instead of being a part of the solution? Because that is all they know. It got them elected, and that is all they have done since getting into office. Point fingers and place blame. How about a bit of leadership for a change? Not going into a back room behind closed doors and ramrodding a health care system down the throat of America that only 35 percent wanted. Sorry, but these wankers are under qualified for the job, and they have proven again and again, they have no idea of what to do. Look at them. Its pathetic.

        • Al Sieber

          Kinetic 1, quit blaming past administrations, what we have now is the excuse filled presidency of Barrack Obama, also known as “the Whiny Little Bitc#”.

        • http://naver samurai

          Bush, baaaaa! Reagan, baaaaa! Can we get some new material? A real birth certificate would be nice!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Bush/Cheney/Halliburton. Its as old and worn out as the race card. Can we get back to reality and accepting responsibility for our own actions without blaming someone else please.

    • Billie

      I for one say ask Governor to activate a core of civilian militia volunteers to defend our borders with the national guard to issue weapons and protective armor ,I am ready to do my part. Just think how many of us retirees swore an oath to defend this country and constitution many years ago and are ready to do it again.

      Mrs Billie

      • Dennis

        Amen Brother, thats the only way, we must defend our country as you can see our government will not. Well atleast this one with the MUSLIM leader.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im 51, soon to be 52, and Ill go down there and fight to protect our homeland, as will millions of others like me. Question is, how long is the government going to get in the way of us defending our country? Here Arizona is trying, and the federal government led by the Muslim Kenyan is getting in the way. Its getting messy.

  • Pamela Dale

    Not only is Obama not a leader, he is a sitting president who actions are hostile to the sovereignty of the U.S. He should be brought up on charges of treason.

    • Rosey

      Yay YOU! Finally, someone GUTSY enough to use the T word for the TRAITOR that he is. Oh, but then, how can one be a traitor by being illegally elected without a valid U.S. Birth Certificate? I guess that makes him just a common thug running our country into the ground!

      • kate8

        Rosey, I have been continually stating that, not only Obama, but every member of this administration, Congress and the Supreme Court who has helped to cover for this imposter is guilty of HIGH TREASON.

        To do nothing is to be complicit.

        • eddie47d

          Unless you have absolute proof then YOU are complicite. Do you slander your new friends and anybody else with innuendos. Nobody is guilty of anything unless there is proof and that makes you dangerous with all your assumptions.

          • Al Sieber

            eddie47d, the proof is the borders are wide open, criminals are pouring in terrorizing citizens, Obama is president, not Bush, the Gov. and the people of Ariz. are asking for help and Obama does nothing. what more proof do you need?

          • JC

            Obama is using the border issue as a political chip to be played at a later date. SOB cares not at all about criminal insurgency into American soil. He and Allah are doing their best to kill all of us infidels. Folks, we need to take a serious stand and the Kenyan can lead follow or get out of the way…but we must take action.

        • JeffH

          kate8… “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, BRIBERY, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

          Major General Paul Vallely, Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin, LCDR Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III

          No matter the political agenda of any American citizen, one reality should send shivers down every American’s spine. The Obama administration has made it known that according to their form of “justice,” NO soldier or citizen has “legal standing” to question anything about Obama, his many corrupt friends, his anti-American policies or his full court press to destroy all things American.
          Barack Hussein Obama remains a complete mystery. His birth, college, travel, passport and entire personal history remains under lock and key unlike any president before him. His policies have proven destructive to the US economy, US sovereignty and security as well as both states and individual rights.
          The Obama administration is operating like a pure dictatorship at odds with the vast majority of American citizens and no matter what peaceful course of redress the people attempt, they have repeatedly been informed that they have “NO STANDING” to ask any questions.

          • kate8

            JeffH, excellent post, as usual.

            You just can’t reason with liberals who have their eyes and ears covered when it comes to Obama. They just hate being confused by the facts.



    • Jackal

      Dear Chucky,
      The worst president of all time is Georgey W Bush. You are the first person I ‘ve heard proclaim different.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Let me be the second to say that I think Obama is the absolute worse president ever.

        • SAL

          oBampa– disaster– a real dis ASS ter

        • Shasta

          O B A M A


          Never ever knew of a Kiss Butt pres, he makes me puke, he is s sneaky conniving theif, LABEL HIM CHICAGO THUG…….HE DESERVES NO RESPECT

          • 45caliber

            THis is one reason I believe Oblama is controlled by others. No respectable cappo would kiss rear-ends the way Oblama does.

          • Lucy

            Like it or not, Barack Obama is our president. He cannot perform miracles and doesn’t seem to get much support from Congress. Is this forum about Mexico invading our country or is it merely another means to bash our president? Have you all forgotten “united we stand, divided we fall”?

            If we’re going to “fight” the Mexicans, we might as well go for the whole country and annex Mexico as our 51st state…

          • 45caliber


            Do you live in another world? Oblama never gets support from Congress? He may not be getting the support he wants from the GOP but he certainly gets the support he wants from the Dems!!

            I can’t think of any other President who would insist that Congress gives him programs like healthcare without reading the bill – and I can’t think of too many Congressman who would have voted for something they hadn’t read.

          • kate8

            Lucy, I’d be interested to know if you were singing that same song when Bush was President.

        • Jackal

          Hey Robin, I won’t argue Obama is the worst ever. My comment was comparing Carter to Bush.

      • CJ

        Jackal. You haven’t been on here long, have you? You need to get out more and listen to what’s being said outside your own little world.

      • Ken

        Jackal: No, Bush was the SECOND worse. Now he is third.

      • marvin

        Jackel, bush is history he is not in charge now, you do know odumbo was elected in nov 2007,took office in jan 2008 has been in office for 19 months with the help of the dembocrats has blew over 1 trillion dollars more then bush spent in 8 years the year is 2010 and the subject is illegal immigration, arizona, and bush did send 6000 national guard to the border

      • BSHARING

        Jackel, Where have you been? You definitely haven’t been reading then because within months of being in office he was declared the worst President of the US ever!! You can hide your head in the sand all you want to but eventually even you will see it. Whether you are man/woman enough to acknowledge it is another matter. Some people just can’t admit their mistakes.

        • Vicki

          Do you have a link to who claims he is the worst prez? I’m asking cause I be Socialists think he is almost the best.

      • bob555


        Have you been on other sites, and read any of the comments on them? I have seen hundreds of comments about Obama being the worst president.
        You must selectively read comments, or when one starts to imply that, you stop reading it.

      • kate8

        Jackal, do you live in a vaccuum?

      • 45caliber

        You haven’t been listening very well, have you? I’ve heard of thousands who say the same thing. In fact, I only know of a handful of people in my area who will admit to voting for Oblama. And half of them admit that was a mistake.

        Oblama has spent more borrowed money in his first year that all the previous Presidents combined. He does it in spite of the will of the people he is supposed to be representing. He has belittled America’s position in the world. He has made our military as weak as possible (only Clinton did worse here). He has instituted more Marxist (Communist) goals than any other President. And he still has years to go.

      • james graham

        Hay Jackel, Do you EVER read anything more than the comics in the news paper? If this is the 1st time you have heard about Obama being the worst president ever then I dought it! It is unenformed people like you that should NOT have a right to vote! But thanks to this great nation and the people who have died for Her even idiots can vote!

      • JC

        jackal…we have a new prize winner, he’s a guest from kenya.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Jackassal, seeing this wanker in office stumble at every step, makes me realize what a genius George W. Bush was compared to this guy. Bush ran for office, presented a plan, stated a plan, got elected, executed the plan, did exactly what he said he would do, freed a nation of millions, kept us safe and rebuilt our military and intelligence community that Bill Clinton had torn in half, which by the way, set the table and allowed 9-11 to be set up and pulled off. I miss that Bush guy. The more time passes, and the more stupid things this current admin does, the more happier I am with the way Bush performed. Im pissed they didnt reign in spending as I expected them to, and that was wrong. But everything else was good. In case you didnt know, under Bush, employment was at an alltime high in this country, unemployment was at an alltime low. The stock market was at an alltime high. You probably didnt know, that at Bush’s worst economic markers, it was still higher than Clinton’s highest. Of course you didnt know that, because the liberal democratic press doesnt report good things like that about their “enemy”. But Bush is gone, and has been for quite some time, so get over it, and I promise Ill stop bringing up what a leper Clinton and Obama are in comparison to him. Deal?

        • NM

          I like Bush. I think he was good.

    • Henry Miller

      Sir, the “Dumb Guy” has a clear grasp on the title of worst US President and worst President of any Democracy throughout history. And by the way, while Governor of Texas “Dumb Guy” invited illegals to come into Amurica.

      • meteorlady

        So you live in Texas and know that for a fact? Where’s the link to that? George advocated citizenship – legally. Though I have to admit as President he was more democrat than republican when he advocated amnesty.

        I just saw some pictures of a couple of very large (army size) weapons caches that were just across the Texas border and that scared the crap out of me. There were hundreds of automatic weapons, army weapons, SUV’s full of more weapons, grenades, etc. This was from one of the most violent gangs operating in our country. This is not funny, nor is it a game anymore. If our government does not get off it dead a** and get something done, most of the border states will be taken over.

        My ex-cop friend from LA says the same – that if the Mexicans wanted to take over they could as there is not enough manpower to stop them in that county.

        • Stewie

          That is what happens when the average person cannot own a gun. That is why Obama is working behind the scenes to take our guns away with the help of the U.N. AKA Small Arms Treaty. Hillary already told the U.N. that Obama will back it. In small print, it forbids private ownership of firearms.

          • Vicki

            Good thing for us that we do not have to honor treaties that violate our Constitution.

        • 45caliber

          When the USSR went under, the criminal elements took over control and now run most of Russia. Perhaps the drug dealers expect to do the same thing.

          There is a difference, though. In Mexico and Russia it is forbidden to have private weapons. It isn’t in the US. And most of us are ready. I bought another 350 rounds this weekend just to make sure I’m ready.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          He advocated amnesty trying to reach across the aisle to placate to the democrats to get them to work with him. But they dont reciprocate, so I wouldnt reach across to them. They are snake oil salesman.

      • eddie47d

        This is another problem that wasn’t created by Obama but whether it is fair or not it still has to be solved by Him. Almost all illegals in America today came over under Clinton in his later term and most of Bush’s term. In 2008 when the economy soured the trek into America slowed down quite a bit. That’s why I don’t get mad at Obama for this problem. It’s just common to blame Obama on this site for everything even if he wasn’t in the neighborhood. If the moon turned yellow these people would call it the sun and blame Obama for the color change. That’s why it’s fun to poke fun at them. On the serious side I don’t want any drug smugglers coming in from Mexico or any country. So Federal agents do need to go into this Park and prosecute them. If these same people are dangerous to their own people in their own country then they will not hesitate to do harm here in America.

        • marvin

          eddie47 so you think obama can solve this illegal problum this is the same obama that turned down 13 countrys offering to help clean up the oil spill 3 days after it started, that extorted 20 billion dollars from bp and by his rush to action will put all the off shore oil worker on unemploymet that he extorted another 100 million from bp to pay, if your hero obama had took the help offered in the spill would most likly never have got out of hand, omama want to sue arizona for doing what he refuse,s to do protect our borders what about the cal law on illegals or the missouri law on illegals, obama, holder and nepilotano want to rule by threat and intimidation, i sent the arizona gov a email and ask to donate to their defence fund when it is set up, arizona is right obama is wrong

          • John

            Obama hasn’t been able to solve a damned thing.
            His resume is as thin as the paper it’s written on.

            He’s a community organizer!!!!

          • eddie47d

            Now listen closely,Obama did not extort 20 Billion from BP. It was a problem created by BP and has to be solved by BP. Let’s hope that 20 billion is enough,for anything over that amount will come out of the taxpayers hide.So let’s see who’s side you are really on.

          • JeffH

            They must really love Obama in the gulf…
            NAVARRE, Fla. – Barack Obama had a close encounter of the eligibility kind today as his motorcade drove past an electronic billboard here on Highway 98 asking the question, “Where’s the birth certificate?”

          • JC

            eddie, it was a shakedown run by Chicago mobsters.
            Do I feel sorry for BP? No…do I think the Kenyan and Co. are in any way effective? No.
            The Kenyan should sit down shut up and let the Engineers do their job.

          • NM

            I don’t think BP created this, I think it was created by an ecoterrist. It is worse then expected but not as bad as wanted. It came to soon on the heels of nobama saying he would open up for more drilling. And I think he knew it would happen.

        • james graham

          Eddie47d, are you and Jackel bed fellows? You sound like it blameing Bush for the world problems. Have you gone outside lately? It’s 2010 and we have a new president(and I use that term lightly). As much as everyone waits to blame Bush for everything thats wrong in this country Obama is now in comand and our bourders are being invaded NOW not in 2009,2008,2007,2006, and so on! By obama sitting on his butt and not doing ANYTHING to protect our boarders it is HIS fault, NOT Bush or anyone elses! Obamas ONLY!! AND NO 3000 troops to do paper work is NOT secureing our boarder!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Some guy down the street from me keeps running the damn stop sign. I know its Bush’s fault, and I wonder what him and Cheney and Halliburton are going to do about it? I mean, its got to be Bush’s fault right? I mean everything else is according the left wing liberal pacifist appeasing democrats.

        • Allan

          What the hell do you think the job of President is? It is mostly dealing with existing problems. Don’t take the job if you can’t solve problems! Stop making excuses for a man who excels in blaming others while being incapable of actual leadership. I don’t think this guy could get a regular, non-affirmative action job.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            He is a community organizer, ie, a rabble rouser. He exists to stir up trouble.

    • JeffH

      CHUCKY, you’re correct…Carter is one rung above Obama now.

  • CW

    Hey Denniso, I’ll bet you go fishing in your bathtub also. Advise—-Go fishing where the fish are and you may catch some. Of course that is if the leftist will allow you in that area. With fishing gear and bait.

  • Roy

    Does anyone get the fact that Mexicans do not use prayer rugs? That means that radical Islamists have figure out how easy it is to get into this country through the south border. It is an outright act of treason for this poor excuse for a president to sit back and do nothing about it.

  • Paul Revere


    Far from needing a midnight ride, we do need for patriotic Americans to arm and turn the tide of lawless Mexican invaders. This is no longer a case of poor Mexicans coming here to feed thier families, it is an organized effort to get the US to give all the Southwest back to Mexico … at ANY cost. They will kill and harass our law enforcement officers at the border. OK. Two can play that game. Anything larger than say a .375 magnum rifle should bring down a foreign helo. Put one through the turbine and it WILL go down. If it comes down on the US side, capture the aggressors, try them and take whatever measures it takes to make Mexico and our own pathetic government know that we are grave-yard serious about taking our country and our freedom back.

    • Henry Miller

      Mr Revere, You say they, Mexicans, want us to ‘give back’ the Southwest? Does that mean we acquired the land under devious or spurious conditions?

      Along that line; who owned the land we bought in the Louisiana Purchase?

      • Don

        Henry,We won the whole of the area that comprises ,California,New Mexico,Arizona and Texas from Mexico in several wars during the 19th century.In 1917 Mexico was offered a deal from Germany, that promised Mexico that if Germany won the war, it whould give Mexico all of Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico.It just go’s to show that Mexico is not our friend, an whould turn on the US in a hot second. The Louisiana Purchase was bought from France.And by the way, George Bush, Obama, John McCain and Richard Nixon, are all cousins!

        • frank

          Southern arizona was purchased from Mexico in the Gasdon(sp) Purchase

      • coal miner

        Henry Miller,

        “The falsification of history has done more to impede human
        development than any one thing known to mankind”
        - Rousseau 1712-1778 -

        We bought Louisana from the French.

    • eddie47d

      I’m amazed the Mexican government even owns a helicopter as incompentent as they are in dealing with the drug kingpins who rule that nation. In one south central Mexican state 12 out of 19 mayors were indicted for helping the drug gangs. This report also said nothing would probably be done about it. Mostly fear of the gangs from the Mexican officials. Some of these same officials are the problem. That being said your comment on Mexico trying to re-take lost land is over the top fearmongering. We did steal the Southwest from them through war,but that’s old history that doesn’t need to be brought back to life.

      • Leviticus

        THis territory was “Stolen” from mexico! A more accurate description is that this land captured from the dregs of SPAIN! Read James A. Mishner “Texas”.

        If Jan Brewer had real courage she would discuss sucession from the Union. Your payroll tax money that would normally be sent (35->45% of your pay check)to the Kenian in Cheif could easiliy pay for troops on the border. That would make Mordor(Wash. D.C.) quake in fear.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        They probably rented it from the drug kingpins.

    • 45caliber

      These poor starving Mexicans – who pay thousands of dollars to coyotes to help them slip by the Border Patrol and buy ID papers so they can work.

      If they were as hard up as the liberals like to insist, they couldn’t afford to come here.

      • JC

        Perhaps we should stop seeing them as unfortunate undocumented migrants and call them what they are….”Mexican Insurgents”.
        And say! Aren’t we busy hunting down and killing “Insurgents” in a couple of dust bowls overseas somewhere? Time to bring the Military home….we’re being invaded “here”.

    • Viktor Leben

      We need to invade Mexico ……..

      Once the Mexicans are subjugated we must send put them in relocation camps far south of Mexico City. Probably a reservation in Southern Mexico…….

      After Mexico is cleared, we cede it to USA as a territory. Encourage homesteading … Farming… Industry, etc. Develop their underdeveloped land the American Way !

      Fences and TROOPS DEFENDING THE BORDER won’t solve the problem – WE NEED TO INVADE MEXICO !!!!! With about 1,000,000 troops ……. This will solve “The Mexican Problem” once and for all ….

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    Get this un-American usurper out of office now. While we are being taken over, this modern day Nero plays his fiddle. What kind of an American, would stand around and watch this happen while being in charge? George Soros’s best friend, thats who. Shame on all of you that voted this wanker into office, and shame on losers like denniso who hate this country.

    • momof4


    • Denniso

      Ummm, beb…You’re a little confused,not surprisingly. I loathe people like your heros Limbaugh and Beck and Savage who are trying to destroy the country for their political and financial gain…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So I state a true fact, and your comeback is to attack Limbaugh, Beck, and Savage? Nice piece of work you mental giant. Now drop your bong, get to the bank and cash your un-employment check, and get yourself a 40 and get on the porch and watch the working people go by.

        • Denniso

          Beb…what ‘true’ fact did you state? I guess I missed it. you can’t understand that I don’t hate the country,but rather I hate the people mentioned who are leading millions of fools in harming the country for their own monetary gain. Got it???

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I guess I didnt understand that you hated this democrat administration that is attempting to set all things up so that they have absolute control for their own monetary gain. That is the whole point of this administration, to blow up spending, get people more dependant on government so they have more power, and to take over with socialism to ensure their continued power. I had no idea from your posts that you seen them doing this. I thought you were defending them from all of your posts I read. I agree, that those in power now are all about their own greed and power, and that they need to be stopped.

          • Denniso

            You’re trying to be too clever…Limbaugh/Beck/Savage and others like them are in it for the personal gain. Look at Limbaugh’s contract and tell me he’s not ranting for the money. Those guys don’t give a damn about the country if they can sail off to their private paradise if they destroy it in the process of raking in tens of millions.
            Obama is literally trying to save the country from some of the biggest problems we’ve ever faced,some brought on by your buddies Cheny/Bush and the Reflubs. Get real, Beberoni, and do some independent thinking on the issues and the history of our political system.

          • NM

            That is called CAPITALISM!!! They work for it, and they are oh so correct in their assessment of things.

          • Denniso

            You actually call yelling on the radio for 3 whole hours a day w/ many days off to play golf w/ hotshots, WORK??? Limbaugh makes about 10 or more million $$ a year,for probably 60 hours a week. Work? Limbaugh has never actually worked in his life. Dug a ditch, built fence,made steel,driven a backhoe,poured concrete,built a house,done plumbing,sawed a board,cut firewood? No, limbaugh is a super wealthy fatcat lazyass who has never done real work…

  • Linda Jackson

    obama don’t want to do anything for us here in USA let’s do our job as he said YES WE CAN!!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Perhaps if there was a really good golf course on the Mexican/Arizona boarder, our fearless “leader” would have a reason to go to Arizona. At least that area would have all the protection afforded the president.

    This is a serious issue and so far, all this administration does is apologize world wide for America being what it is and jaunting to places to golf and vacation.

    Fences and patrols are needed. It doesn’t take a lot to figure this out!

    • larry

      robin, GREAT idea. everyone had a cat when BP CEO went out for a yacht ride; but, it was ok for bho to play golf instead of gg to see the gulf mess? ‘do as i say; not as i do’. where’s the BIRTH CERTIFICATE??? impostor! peace. [PS to robin - join Atlanta CC ]

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        PS to robin – join Atlanta CC

        What’s Atlanta CC?

        • larry

          Atlanta Conservation Club up the road from u. a GREAT shooting range. National matches there this coming weekend.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Larry… Thanks… My son has his carry permit and a glock. He graduated last weekend from high school, so he should be free this weekend!

          • larry

            robin, the slate is full for the state match. but, you and yur son shud come up and see what real pistol handling is all about. i applaud yur son’s LTCH and glock. that said, it is ESSENTIAL that he get professional training. i’m on the bottom of the list of contacts and wud b happy to give y’all some guidance.

  • hflashman

    Typical…rant at those who didn’t cause the issues, and let those who did cause this problem to go unscathed.

    If y’all get interested in punishing the real lawbreakers, the ones who perpetuate the problems, I’ll be surprised.

    The people who are the ROOT CAUSE of our undocumented problems are not the poor slobs who come here for work…it’s those that employ them. Plain and simple.

    If you threw employers of undocumenteds into the county jail for 30 days, no bail on appeal … the social stigma and 30 days of jail food will cure the problem. It would take one case to prove it’s enforced. No jobs? no reason to come here.

    A fence? Of all the balderdash ever conceived. A fence works both ways…keeping us in a jail as well. And who’s going to tell the people whose lands ar confiscated for this fence? Who pays for it? Of all the stupid ideas… a fence. Like the Berlin Wall worked eh?

    • 1minuteman

      those poor mexicans arn’t the only ones coming over. you also have al-queda,hammas, and hizboulah as well as the poor mexican drug runners coming across so if you think it’s only guys looking for work then what rock have you been under.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I think the land along the border may not be privately owned. It might be worth checking out. Yes, the employers of illegal aliens should be punished as well as the interluders. A fence is not the complete solution. I suggest sensors with remote controlled guns that would automatically fire at the spot until the sensor stops.

      • Don

        Hey Conservative at birth. Go to and type in Sentry to see the robotic sentry. It has already been developed to take the place of standing guards,at defend soldiers in bunkers,and other applications.There is a short video showing it in action.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      I agree employers should be punnished with 30 days in jail and a heavy fine. They are aiding and abeting enemy invaders. Illegals openly protest in our streets demanding that they dictate public policy. They trash our flag and our country. I do not think it would take many convictions of employers before the illegal job market went away. We also must build the fense no matter what the cost. Obama cannot be allowed to just give up American soil along the border to drug runners or let them take up residence in our cities. There should be no new immigration law which would only end up being amnesty. We need to enforce the law we have now.

    • 45caliber

      Russia has a fence and it works very well in both directions. Of course, there are soldiers there guarding it and they have the freedom to shoot anyone they see trying to cross. So do most other countries. Of course, many like Mexico simply depend upon the police and the army to seal the borders – and they do unless the persons they catch bribe them with money and sex.

  • Ralph Jacobson

    I think it would be a great time for the Arizona National Guard to schedule some search and destroy training in the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge. With all those prayer rugs, turning up they may find an encampment of Islamic terrorists. Should not the National Security Administration be a LITTLE concerned about this, or are these Islamic infiltrators, maybe long lost relatives of our “President” I mean Resident Socialist.

    • JC

      They don’t want it stopped Ralph, keeping the “terror hype” up is big business to the Globalists. We The People will be the ones to retore America or no one will.

  • larry

    pardon my ignorance. i was under the impression that the GOVERNORS of the states were the individuals w/ the AUTHORITY to call out the NATIONAL GUARD troops w/in their state whenever they declared a state of emergency. CLEARLY, the situation described here qualifies as a STATE OF EMERGENCY! when US citizens are refused access to a US NATIONAL PARK b/c it is HOME to FOREIGN INVADERS, that IS an emergency. i would suggest that the gov of AZ meet w/ a few of her neighbor states’ governors and jointly CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD TO REMOVE THE FOREIGN INVADERS!! they do NOT need bho and DC to protect their territory. if i am mistaken, please straighten me out. IF i am correct, tell the affected governors to get off their butts and TAKE ACTION for the safety of their citizens! GGGGRRRRRRrrrr. peace.

    • Al Sieber

      Our governor has met with resistance with the Obama admin.over the Nat. Guard. it might end up where the people take matter’s into their hands. I reported the prayer mats to authorities 4-years ago exactly, June, 2006. and it’s not about coming here for the job’s Hflashman, there’s rumor’s of amnesty, and freebie’s. a friend of mine has a silver mining operation in Sonora, Mexico, he headed down there last Tues. got as far as the border and was told that the drug lords have taken over the village, he wanted me to go with him, I said no way, he’s at his ranch in Kansas he e-mailed me last night. so what do we do about this invasion? we’re the only country with open borders.

      • larry

        “Our governor has met with resistance with the Obama admin……” since when does any governor need to get the permission of anyone in DC to call out his/her NATIONAL GUARD to police a state of emergency w/in the boundary of his/her state???? peace.

        • Al Sieber

          Since the Fed. Govt. took over the Nat. Guard.

        • Al Sieber

          The Fed. Govt. controls the Nat. Guard now.

          • larry

            al, pls see so that you may understand the facts better. the pres MAY call individual units of the ANG [which he has done]. however, all units of the ANG report to the GOVERNORS of their state and he appoints an adjutant general [TAG] who is the actual commander.

        • Al Sieber

          Larry, all I know is we have been asking for the Nat. Guard in Ariz. for year’s now, I don’t give a rat’s a$$ who controls the Nat. Guard at the moment, we just need them, along with our borders closed. our Goven. has asked and asked for help with no results. your guess is as good as mine.

          • JC

            Al, note the link larry provides…”global security”.

        • Johnny C

          The Governer of each State is the Commander of the National Guard and can call them up in case of a State emergency which means the State pays the bill. If the President calls them up then they are Federalized and the Feds pay the bill. Obviously, Obama is in bed with Calderon on this issue so this is not something he wants to do that will upset his friend.

          • Arizona Born US Citizen

            The State of Arizona is functioning on a lack of funds……”almost broke” if that makes sense to anyone; so if Arizona has to pay the bill it would be totally broke!!! Thus, the reason for asking the Feds for help…

        • Vicki

          One little detail. The acreage in discussion appears to be a NATIONAL park not a state park. As such it is up to the FedGov to go in and cleanup. Now for state public lands and private property the state (AZ) should call out their state guard and place them along the border.

          • kate8

            Obama is just itching for violence to break out so he can declare martial law.

            They seem to be setting it up so that it is inevitable. They are deliberately enraging the American people in every way they can.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Since Obama socialism came to town.

    • bp

      Larry; Interesting that they are holed up in a U.S. National Park. Do they know more than we do? Who has jurisdiction there? Arizona or Feds?

      • larry

        bp, how RIGHT YOU ARE ! ! the parks are under the control of the USF&WS, and, as such, i BELIEVE they are NOT considered STATE land. the rat bast++ds know this too. GGGGRRRRrrrrr peace.

      • JC

        The Rat Bastard in the White House knows this better than anyone.
        Still, it’s American soil and requires an American action. No point waiting for the Kenyan boy to get involved.

  • BigIron

    If Arizona wants to “police” inside it’s borders that’s a STATE matter. If Arizona should wish to form a “militia” to “eradicate” this incursion then they should put out the call to “form up”! I’m sure that there would be answers to that call from all over our Country. It would then be an action based in law and not the actions of a mob. Until Arizona chooses to make that call we can do little to help other than offer “lip service”.

  • gary thiel

    obama needs to get off his ass and off t.v. trying to look cute and do something.

    • JC

      For sure…like getting on a plane back to his homeland would be a good start.

  • Bruce Schmidt

    While I agree that the border needs to be secured NOW. I think the credibility of this site is reduced when I find “related posts” like below. How are thy related to immigration?
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    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      What’s wrong with you. What does that have to do with anything. If you do not want to read something or buy something don’t. Maybe someone else does.

    • Vicki

      Bruce. If you look at the red stripe in the header you will find a set of subcategories. Immigration is in conservative politics section. As to “related” that is likely created automatically by some software that has bugs. As such you could report the error to the web master or do what we do which is ignore the unrelated articles


    Yes, the entire US should follow Arzona,s move and protect all our borders. Ihave nothing against Mexicans & have always enjoyed my visit to Mexico. But if they are going to try and live here, they need to become citizens and speak the language.

  • dennis scott

    IF..we had a Constitution…a Declaration of Independence or even a Bill of Rights…We, the people, might have a fighting chance! Apparently these documents are relics of the past! I was taught that the Sheriffs of sovereign states had supreme authority over the Federal Government! I was taught that We, the people, gave certain limited powers to the Government and if those powers were abused…We, the people, can overthrow the Government! Have we become 307 million “pawns” on the Governments chessboard? Have we, the people, regressed so far that 307 million people cannot unseat 545? Can it be that one Satanic,narcissistic individual,being “puppeteer-ed” by an Oligarchy entity,can succeed in mesmerizing a Nation of 307 million strong?

  • John

    Looks to me like we have an invasion going on. This is right up the alley for the Bildeberg group and the one world government people. They are deliberately messing up our backyard with the puppet presidents that we have had. Time to fire up the cavalry and take back the territory. This is an assault on the sovereignty of the USA. And yet we are sending a boatload of soldiers to the afghan front to deal with a problem that started 1300 years ago. The only solution is extreme aggression not this panzy bs that Obama is. We need a real POTUS that can stand up for himself and not embarrass our nation. What a loser the American people voted into power.

  • Ron…

    Obamma belongs in the slammer! This man acts more like a Manchurian President each day. He should be impeached for many reasons. He has disgraced the office of our President. He is worse than Carter, and has more gall the Lyndon Johnson, if the Congress had real character and honor, they would be insisting on a 50,000 man army to rid our soil of those who sully it with their presence. Are they going to wait, like they usually do, for the situation to worsen, by Mexicans occupying other portions, “by the take a little, take a lot” policy? Do they want to have the American citizens, armed, to rid the trespassers? It can be done and it will be done, if they are not going to take action in Washington. and sit on their butts while the wimp Muslim do-nothing, continues to reign and messing up our nation, or are we going to get tough and demand impeachment of this usurper in our midst. [Inappropriate comment removed] Throw him and his czars out. Do it now and get her done. Vote out the wimp members of Congress in the November election!

  • JC

    We have brave men and women stationed overseas fighting and dying to bring freedom and security to those unable to fend for themselves.
    Yet we throw our own citizens and our own territory to the criminals
    of a neighboring nation without so much as a whimper.
    Our leader is no American, but does play the role of coward very well.
    How much more perverse does the situation have to be before this trespass is actionable?

    • 45caliber

      Sad, isn’t it?

      • JC


    • 45caliber

      The real problem is that while many Americans are willing to do what is necessary to stop the invasion, our own police forces will arrest us and try us over and over for the same offence until they get a guilty sentence to show Mexico and the rest of the world we really aren’t nasty people who dislike Mexicans after all.

      It isn’t that some of us wouldn’t do it anyway but it sure can be expensive.

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  • Bear

    As I understand from this article, we now have “paramilitary units” and vehicles from Mexico, allegedly drug dealers working for the Mexican drug cartels, which are armed crossing our borders into the United States. I believe that constitutes an “armed invasion” upon Americans and American soil. Who does not get that? Maybe Denniso doesn’t, but this would not be the first time I have suggested that his head was in a defelade position. I don’t think we need Obama’s permission to go after these units and destroy them. We do need the manpower with the equipment. If your article is accurate, Bob, and this information is factual and correct. We need a full military response to this invasion. This is no longer just people looking for a better life or even a few drug thugs. This, to me, represents what many Americans have been suspecting all along that Mexico’s agenda is to take back the territories taken from Mexico during the Mexican American war by any mneans and President Calderon must surely be behind the cartels and all of this action. Why else would he come to our country and tell us what we should do for him and his people… get rid of illegal imigration laws. I believe Gov. Jan Brewer needs to declare a state emergency and demand U.S. Military intervention to eliminate all illegal human trafficing, all drug trafficing and take back all of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Reserve and all areas that are now considered too dangerous for American’s travel. My God, this is our country. What the hell is going on when we are not safe to travel within our own borders? What the hell is going on when we are not safe from foreign attacks on our own soil?

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Actually AZ and NM was bought and paid for from Mexico. They were not part of the battle for Texas where both Americans and Mexican land owners fought against a corrupt Mexican government and Santa Ana.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I might ad that the USA was not involved in the war for Texas independence. Americans settling in Texas legally became disgruntled when Santa Ana took power and abolished the Mexican constitution and assumed dictator powers over Mexico and Texas. The American/Mexican War did not start untill later. I think but I am not sure over water disputes and piracy if I remember correctly.

    • 45caliber

      Further, many of these units are actually Mexican army hired by the drug dealers to draw off the Border Patrol. So far they haven’t shot any our our people – at least to my knowledge – but they ARE military units doing this. And that is certainly an invasion.

      • eddie47d

        We need proof not your wishing and hopeing.

        • JeffH

          …asking for proof? You’ve NEVER EVER provided one piece of “proof” in your comments but have the nerve to ask for “proof”? Get off your ask and “proof” him wrong, but that might require some factual work, something you have no experience in doing.

          • kate8

            JeffH, You can lead a liberal to the truth but you can’t make him look at it.

          • eddie47d

            Just mimmicking your B.S. Mr. Parrot

          • JeffH

            fast eddie, that’s all you can so is “mimick” and “parrot”. If you ever had an actual thought, we might keel over with something other than laughter.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          wow great,does that mean that you will go into the buenos aires national park on a fact finding mission? dont worry if you dont come back that means either you are dead or dead wrong,and if you come back shot up or without ears or eyes that means nothing changed.get real live your life looking at the thruth,quit dreaming that this is disneyland and you are peter pan.and no you cant have the teddybear,buy your own,obama needs his.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          So now fast eddie has sided with the illegals and with the mexican militia, and turned his back on his fellow American’s. Shame on you Eddie, shame on you. Your a traitor, and when it comes down to fighting to keep our land, you know what happens to traitors dont you? Boom boom, out go the lights. I dont think you want to be in our trenches when the fighting starts. And I wouldnt want a person like you in the trench with me either, hell, who knows what side you would take.

  • Gib Chase

    I’m all for Arizona’s new immigration law however, I know of no lost of land to Mexico or any Mexican group. The National Wildlife refuge has not been taken over and is still under the control of the USF&WS.

    USF&WS Retired

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Again a great article Bob!

    • JC

      The US Authroities have been on a stand down:

      It’s as disgusting as the complete lack of leadership from DC.

    • JC

      The US Authorities have been on a stand down:

      It’s as disgusting as the complete lack of leadership from DC.

    • Vicki

      USF&WS is obviously NOT in control. If they were then there would be no need for signs warning AMERICAN CITIZENS to beware when traveling INSIDE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA because of alien invaders.

      The entire admin failure to take any action let alone decisive action is dereliction of the duty they swore to. It is in and of itself an impeachable offense.

      It is a good reason to vote most or all incumbents out in November and to demand the impeachment of all the admin by the new congress in 2011

  • vance drake

    send BHO back to keyna anhis wife too.i feel sorry for his kids to have grow up an having people telling them your dad is the worse pres the USA ever had

  • Deidre H

    So sad. He’s (BHO) like a pied piper leading America into…not the water, or off of a cliff; more like into HELL.

    • kate8

      Sooner or later BO will no longer be useful to the PTB. They are Aryans. They are the ones who developed eugenics.

      The joke will be on him.

  • Kyle

    A border fence, would be a waste of time and money, it’s ineffectiveness would encourage illegal activity, because of the ease in usurping it’s intention, criminal activity would still be rewarded, and therefore, encouraged. It is in-humane to wave a better life in front of people, just outside of their reach, unties them to break the law, by having little or no enforcement. Punish honest people, by stopping the good, while, giving a pass to the lawless. People discriminate, and allow prejudice to affect their decisions, and actions.
    A far better solution on the border,” LAND MINDS”, they do not discriminate, they convey the message that we are serious, they treat all people the same, you step on one, and it does not care who you are, or whither you had eggs or tacos for breakfast. They do not ask, if you intend to return, or are carrying drugs, they do not decide to blow up based on skin color, or ethnic, religious background. A posted “NO MANS LAND” would be the simplest, most cost effective, fairest, border solution. The rules would be obvious, and the consequences, clear and fair to all. Avoidance of the punishment would be simple to, if you do not want to die, simply don’t step on the land mind, if you do not want to step on the land mind, simply don’t be in the field. Judgment would be swift and consistent and cost effective, no appeals, no months or years waiting on trials, or decisions, and No repeat offenders, “BOOM”; problem solved.
    Legal immigration would still be possible, and encouraged, and we would be rewarding the people we want here the honest hard working, law abiding individuals, while discouraging and eliminating the type we do not want here. We could also install falenx style, laser /radar machine-guns, the removal of human operators, would eliminate the possibility of favoritism, and discrimination; EQUAL and fair judgment for all.

    • Kyle

      Countless soldiers have sacraficed limbs, and life to protect the US ” Way of life “; is it no less fair to ask the illegal’s to do the same ?

  • vance drake

    bho would not make pimple on george busch butt even though he was not that good himself but still 99% better than BHO

  • Bruce Eden

    Send a tank battalion of M1A3 Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles to the most problematic areas and spread out the battalion. Then let’s see these Mexcrement attempt to take shots at our populace. I like the idea of land mines as well. But you make a 100 foot zone at the border with land mines, backed up by at least the double, razor-wired border fences, and then at certain intervals of up to one mile, station an M-1 and Bradley with the appropriate troop strength for each, since Abrams tanks can hit multiple targets from well over one mile while on the move over rough terrain.

    If the Mexcrements want to start a war, we can oblige them.

  • Gecko1

    Unless we can turn back the flow of people jumping on the government dependency bandwagon, our votes won’t matter. We have become the land of “I need a free handout”and as long as it’s free, guess how they will vote. If going to the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge and taking it back will help clean our system of riff raff. MOUNT UP!

    P.S. Obama is not the dumbest president, he knows exactly what he’s doing. People who voted him in power are stupid for falling for it.

  • John

    This means WAR. All I can say the NWO people have their strings firmly embedded into Washington for this to happen. I have seen this going on in Europe as well and even worse than we have it here. The NWO people are manipulating immigration policy to favor their agenda.

  • angry survivor of SEIU threats!

    None of this should surprise anyone. Those of us smart enough to listen to BO’s words, and read his voting record; knew that he was a communist from the get go.

    We knew that this would be (and is) Carter’s ‘second’ term.

    And now just as Carter ‘gave’ the Panama Canal ‘back’ (in his words according to treaty), so is BO (only DEFYING the treaty from the Mexican/American war) giving Arizona back to the MEXICAN THUGS!

    AGAIN I say BOYCOTT MEXICO (and Mexican products). BOYCOTT California, and SUPPORT Governor Brewer.

    I hope she defies BO yet again, mobilizes the National Guard (with COMPLETE ARMOR) and takes back her state by force!

  • John

    Chucky, you are a moron. What you need is either to be placed on the front lines, weaponless, as all liberals should be, (and clueless) so you can actually see what’s going on, or have one or more of the invaders break in to your house and terrorize your household for a few hours, taking all the liberties they want with you and your family. When caught, they’d just be deported, and you could expect to see them again. Does the word “ILLEGAL” mean anything to you, or do you believe that the word “law” is just a three-letter word? And to think, liberals actually breed and pass on ignorance.

    • 45caliber

      Liberals believe that it is better to live as a slave than take the chance of killing someone – or being killed, which is even worse. They are convinced that all military people are frustrated murderers who are only seeking a sybolance of varnish before they go on a killing spree. That’s why they are so afraid of the military and any veterans.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The are the left wing liberal pacifist appeasers, and everyone that knows anything, knows pacifism has lost each and everytime it has ever been practiced. Its just that the liberals think so high of themselves, they think they can talk anybody to believing in what they believe, and as a group, they cant even get together as a unit to form any kind of plan, because its all about them. They are a dangerous lot, who would sell our freedom, in order to be taken prisoner and allowed to live as a slave. What a shame, and what a lost lot they are.

  • irene levy

    How about getting a strong candidate for president like Congressman Mclintock of California. I was impressed with his speech after the mexican president had the nerve to address out congress about immigration.
    Border control must be a huge issue in the next presidential election.

  • http://yahoo&at&t steve white

    IMO we the people how not had a good government in mny years, we need a good house cleaning in the whitehouse in congress,senate,leg. ect. all must go, No Bankers,lawers, have you seen a banker or lawyer or the us government really help the small towns or the avg. working american? Sometime set and think what they have done for you for the taxes you pay,this is hard to face but the truth will show. thanks you so must for listen to my rant at 62 i’am really mad for the young people of this country

  • a sceptic

    What a crock! Man, what ever happened to integrity in reporting? First, you’ve got to get your facts straight and not jump to conclusions.

    For example, was the head of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge interviewed as to the reasons behind the closing of the area? You’re claiming here that it’s because of armed drug trafficers and smugglers, yet that makes little sense as either of these would immediately face control check points just outside the gates and on all highways heading north. Much more likely the squadron you are referring to are the MinuteMen, the racist paramilitary group hunting undocumenteds along the Arizona border for sport… and patriotism.

    Secondly, where’s the proof of Mexican military crossing the border? Believe me they have enough on their hands fighting the drug wars on the Mexican side of the border. If there ever was an incursion (you claim there are videos), most likely it was in pursuit of the same drug trafficers we are trying to keep out.

    Thirdly, what is being passed off as “prayer mats” are what the poor people in Mexico use to sleep on. They’re called “tapetes”. The idea that Muslim terrorists are entering by the southern border is pretty much a sad joke. NO ONE who isn’t fluent in Spanish would ever attempt to enter Mexico illegally.

    Finally, the incident of the “young smuggler” you refer to was caught on a cellphone video and is widely available on YouTube and elsewhere. It runs a minute and a half and is well worth watching… if you can stomach murder.

    You see, the Border Guard was not only firing on an unarmed 15-year old (in shorts, no less… and no, there was NO indication he was trying to immigrate illegally, much less that he was a smuggler of illegals) but firing on him in an area obviously and clearly outside of his jurisdiction… so much so that it was in a completely other country.

    That this story has now gotten to the point where the Mexican police fired back is just a sad, sad commentary on the state of the journalist art here.

    • Al Sieber

      Dear Septic, the Minutemen are no longer active, there are no gates going into the wildlife refuge, it’s all dirt roads and trails. there’s a big difference between prayer mat’s, and Mexican blankets and the Mexican military has been across the border numerous times. you need to take a trip here, to Sasabe, and spread your sleeping bag out under the stars(away from town) they might find you in the morning with your throat slit, if you’re lucky they’ll just rob you.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thanks Al, but liberals like him, think they can sit down and sing Kumbaya around the campfire with these terrorists and cutthroats, and then they will like us. How stupid can they be? The terrorists, and the illegals, and the Mexican government would love nothing more than for the American government to collapse and to come in and take over this country and run it into the ground like they have their own countries. Look at the state of things in Iraq, which we are trying to change, but before we got there, and the state of affairs in Iran, North Korea, and Mexico, and all these places that seek to invade us. They have one thing in common, they are all hell holes, void of the existance of Jesus Christ, and are all in a world of darkness, full of hatred. And liberals want to get in bed and embrace people like this, thinking they will be safe with them. Stupid, stupid, stupid. News to you liberals, they will kill you as quick as they will kill me or any conservative. They come over here and get control, just so youll know, they will kill Obama and Clinton just as fast as they will kill Bush and Cheny. They dont care. Were all dead to them, so stop placating to them, stop defending them, and stop making it easy for them. Think a little will you.

    • meteorlady

      OK – you obviously do not live in a border state. Just last week, right across the Texas border in Laredo, Mexican police seized hundred of weapons, and 12 trucks & SUV’s loaded with automatic weapons, grenades, bazookas, police-issue accessories, and body armor. the source – one of the most violent gangs in the US and Mexico – Zetas. They the following week they found a makeshift camp in Higueras where they found a massive arsenal of weapons – estimated 200 automatic rifles, 30 pistols, rocket & grenade launchers, uniforms with helmets, and a box of sixty grenades.

      So if you still think they are coming here for a better life, think again. This is an invasion by nationals to take over the drug trade in this country and it’s war. This is scary scary stuff and our government is refusing to protect it’s citizens because of politics. This country is fast becoming the laughing stock of the world.

      • 45caliber

        I saw a report months ago (forgot where now) that stated that there were over 200 confirmed training camps by various terrorists groups – and Al Qida had even more – all in Northern Mexico. They are training them how to act like a Mexican so they can infiltrate the US via Mexico without easy detection. You can bet many would be willing to join such gangs as well. And all only want to come to the US.

        • eddie47d

          more of your black helicopter nonsense! Facts please!

          • kate8

            eddie, I’d really like to know why you are here.

            You have the same access to info as everyone else. Look it up.

            Those of us who keep up with things don’t have the time nor the inclination to try to spoonfeed lazy, brainwashed liberals who wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them right between the eyes.

          • JC

            eddie is a DENIER of truth LOL.
            He’s much happier wrapped in a nice warm blanket of ignorance anbd the truth scares the crap out of him…so don’t expect him to go looking for the truth. His job is to lash out at anything that might shake his precious government issued belief system.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Shouldnt you be back hiding in your cave in the mountains of Afghanistan, protecting your hero Bin Laden? I cannot believe you call yourself an American, and you want to act like this attack on this country isnt happening. Whats wrong with you man? Didnt your mother and father hug you when you were little? Didnt they tell you they loved you? How can you be so devoid of the truth and of all that is good? You seem to delight in this takeover of our border by enemies of ours. Why is this?

    • meteorlady

      Sort of also forgot that according to our own Attorney General of the United States in testimony before congress said that last year (2009) over 17,500 illegals entered this country using our southern borders – all from known terrorist countries. Love knowing terrorists are sneaking in along with the latinos.

      As for the 15 year old – you think it’s OK for the Mexican people to stand on their side of the border and throw rocks at Border Patrol people when they are trying to do their job? This area of the border has had numerous problems and even a couple of stray shots have been fired across the line. The agent in question fired into the crowd and I am sure that the agent is feeling really bad about the incident. But the fact remains that even rocks are deadly if they hit someone in the right place.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think these bleeding heart liberals that think this is allright, should go stand there and let these people throw rocks at them, to where their life is in danger if they dont act, then hand them a gun and see what they do with it. Hmm. I wonder what they would do?

    • 45caliber

      At least one Border Patrol man was killed by thrown rocks and another has brain injuries. Just because the guy didn’t have a gun doesn’t make him not dangerous.

      When you deliberately set out to harm someone else, any injuries you receive cannot be charged to the other person. They are strictly your own fault.

    • Vicki

      sceptic writes:
      “…NO ONE who isn’t fluent in Spanish would ever attempt to enter Mexico illegally.”

      And why would that be? Maybe cause Mexico actually enforces their much more strict immigration laws. Tell you what. Let’s just write our laws on immigration to match Mexico’s laws and enforce them and see the liberals object. Then we remind the liberals how happy they were to have Mexico’s pres tell us what to do.

      • a sceptic

        Vicki, I wouldn’t have a problem with that.

        As for Al Sieber claiming that tapetes are blankets, you really don’t have much of a clue, do you? But it would make more sense to see a picture of what people are calling “prayer mats” before stating what exactly we’re dealing with.

        Meteorlady, where do you get such fantasies? The drug wars on the Mexican side have absolutely nothing to do with any invading army preparing for attack. Your idea that these goons are going to run up to Hollywood or New York – or pretty much any US city – with their heavy calibur weapons and take over the current drug trafficers’ territory, inner city or otherwise, is just silly.

        And calibur45, where in God’s name do you get your statistics? Yeah, right… “17,400″ terrorists have entered by the southern border!

        No wonder conservative hate-mongering sites can get away with such shoddy reporting… hardly a clear-thinking brain to be found for miles.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Uh, have you been to southern California, the Texas border towns, or Arizona border at all? Mexico allready has taken over Southern California, and they are working on the rest. The time is coming, when they will announce they are in charge, and they do allready run the drug trades in many big cities, far away from the border. You dont understand that? Do you understand the power and influence these big drug dealers have, with unlimited resources and money? They buy off law enforcement people, and everyone knows that lawyers and judges are bought off easier than anyone else, and they own a lot of them allready, and its getting worse. But you just keep your blinders on, and tell yourself you know whats up, because, fact is, you havent a clue. Until we stop the flow in, its only going to get worse.

      • a sceptic

        Oops! Sorry. The “17,500″ number comes from meteorlady. Calibur45 is the guy who’s trying to justify a Border Patrol officer firing point blank at a 15-yr old on the Mexican side of the border by claiming that there have been injuries and death to Border Patrol officers in other locations from rock throwers.

        Now, just think for a minute (… though that may be a strain for you.) If this really happened, don’t you think it would be all over the news? Man, FOX would have a field day!

        And, by the way, what “crowd”?!! Obviously, you haven’t even taken the time to look at the video. Sad.

        • Al Sieber

          Hey Septic tank, theres no such thing as a “tapetes”, they’re called “serapes”, and they are blankets. you didn’t do your research, it sounds like you never do, so, why do think you know what’s going on in Ariz., I live here I see it every day.

  • soldier

    Arizona should immediately cease all payments to illegals, period, unless it is an emergency, life and death need at a hospital, or if an illegal is starving so bad his or her ribs are showing, in which case, a qucik MRE can be tossed his or her way. No welfare, no problem.

  • Arizona Born US Citizen

    I am an American Citizen born in Southeastern Arizona only 100 miles
    from the Mexican border. All my life I have heard of and even grown up with Mexicans who came across the border to find better lives and work to support their families. There is no reason they cannot get “green” cards to work and apply for U.S. Citizenship and learn the language. I personally lived across the street from a lady who lived more than 30 years in Arizona and did not learn more than a smattering of English.
    Mexicans wanting to live in US should go through all the steps that any other Immigrant has to go through including background checks to see if they are criminals………but this situation is way beyond a simple situation. I feel Obama is not a true Patriot of America, he does not care about it’s citizens only himself, his family and WHOEVER IS BEHIND HIM!!! Drug cartel and Islamics infiltrating MY ARIZONA is an ABOMINATION to all US CITIZENS!!!!!!!!! IT COULD BE YOUR STATE NEXT!!!! WAKE UP AMERICAN CITIZENS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!

  • citysteve

    Everyone knows Mexico is a toilet, when they ruin and turn this country into a toilet also, we can all thank are F—-n liberals/Democrats!

  • TxVolleyGal

    Personally I’ve always been pro “Legal” immigration with some caveats.

    I don’t see immigration as a bad thing, however due to security concerns I’m thinking we need to have secure borders and we must know who is coming into the country.

    Immigration was a win-win for everyone until we created the welfare state mentality. I am not opposed to immigrant workers, they provide a service for jobs that labor unions have priced out of the market.

    If we could secure our border to ensure our safety and provide a way to have LEGAL immigrant workers come and work our economy would grow and we have no need for violence.

    If we eliminate the welfare incentives for illegals to come here then only the productive and hardworking immigrants will be coming here not to engage in criminal activity but to work.

    If we enacted something like the Fair Tax, it includes these immigrants in the tax payer pool and they contribute to the services i.e. public education, police protection, etc; that they consume. If they are here legally then they have nothing to fear and can be productive members of society.

    It seems to me that legal immigration helped found this country, there should be a way to fix this problem and go back to a win-win.

    • bp

      TexasVolleyGal: Are you a blond? This is not about immigration. These are ILLEGAL RESIDENT ALIENS!! They are not immigrants.

    • mike

      Yeah, immigration from the first world, not the 3rd.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      These guys dont want to immigrate here, they want to illegally enter this country, do illegal activities, sell drugs, rape, murder, work odd jobs, take all the money back home to Mexico. They dont want to learn english and our culture, they expect us to adapt to their language and their culture, and they expect us to pay their medical bills and feed them and house them and educate them, and still with all this, they have no respect for this country, and the democrats feel this is ok. While they are laughing at them as hard as they can, the democrats just keep wanting to take from me and give to them. Ive got a little problem with that. I cant afford all of them. Its killing me. Its killing all of us. But you talk immigration, and they arent talking immigration. They are talking about sponging off of a system, taking advantage of everyone and everything, then spitting in your face and taking more. Again, Ive had enough of it, and so has any self respecting America. But then again, I love this country and what it is supposed to stand for, and I hate seeing it not only stepped on like this, I see our democratic politicians, and to an extent the Republican politicians, enabling it to happen more and more. Im sick of it, and if they dont do something about it, before they know it, were going to be playing cowboys and mexicans, and the cowboys arent going to lose, because they are getting pissed off and tired of it.

  • Peaches

    Obama is getting what he wants and that is to destroy our country. He is allowing Mexicans are invading our country because he wants a war. If we do not allow invasion, there will be a war. Unfortunately, I have lived with Mexicans and have first hand knowledge. They are presently using poison. Americans will be facing with unexplained health problems. Wait and see….

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      question? is your first name beverly?

  • scooter orsburn


  • http://invasion Michael J Anthony RVV

    Our country is being invaded by a foreign country and our government, as always stands by and allows it to happen, this may only be a band of rebels, but once the mexican government sees that we buckled and will do nothing, how long do you think it will be before regular troops and supplies start pouring in, these countries laugh at us and can get away with anything, like the high school in California and the flag incident.
    It’s high time we remember one very great battle cry; “REMEMBER THE ALAMO” AND DRIVE THESE INVADERS OUT, along with all the other illegal’s in our country.
    No matter what you want to call it, this is an invasion of our country and since obama has and will do nothing, this is further proof that again Nostradamus is correct. “The greatest country will be destroyed from within, by a charismatic, turban wearing man from the east and the only man that can save this country will be from the west.
    I believe the man from the west is one, Col. Allan West of Florida.


  • J. B. Williams

    This is not in the government controlled American media’s interest. Now if some geese or ducks had been displaced, that would be newsworthy, but certainly not this.


    • Vicki

      Many patriots have tried to point out the damage to the environment caused by this large group of illegal aliens comming into our country. The MSM is not reporting it.

  • 1WhiteAmerican

    With a President so unwilling to help the many citizens of the United States who elected him it’s time to impeach and start over. Being the President who is cool with the youth and can make a jump shot only goes far when Americans are dying.

  • keith carter

    treat the border invasion just like the whole usa or if your a liberal bone up on your spanish and hadji, come on john mccain , i voted for you! america for legal amercans now!

  • TxVolleyGal

    Where is it constitutional for our President to cede territory to another country? This is an outrage! I’m sorry but this is OUR Country and we do not give one inch of our sovereign soil to criminals and foreign armies. He took an oath and swore to protect and defend OUR Constitution. Here’s what the Constitution says are the Central Government’s responsibilities:

    Article 1, Section 8: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress
    Insurrections and repel Invasions”

    Article 4, Section 4: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”

    How is what’s happening on the border not an invasion?

    • Vicki

      Note that the Fedgov does NOT need to wait for the states to ask for assistance against invasion. Only for domestic problems do they have to wait for the states to ask.

  • http://invasion Michael J Anthony RVV

    Isn’t it amazing how virtually no one refers to obama as president, do you think that maybe there is anarchy in the air, that maybe all the butt wipes that voted for him, now regret there decision and won’t even admit that they did vote for this looser.
    All politicians should take notice of what is going on, there jobs are at stake, but they did take care of themselves, with there life time pay and perks. Don’t you wish you could have that, be in office for 4 years (I won’t say work for years cause they don’t) and retire with a full pension, (SWEET).
    We work all our lives and are lucky to be able to exist.

    • 45caliber

      I almost NEVER call Oblama President. That is an insult to the office.

      • JC

        I prefer, “The Kenyan” because that’s what he is.
        Or maybe “Foreign Spy” which is punishable by a courts martial.
        Could be Con Man…
        But sure as hell he is not my president.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Here here, the Kenyan. I second that nomination. The frickin Kenyan.

  • http://invasion Michael J Anthony RVV

    Remember amendment 28 that should be put on the election ballet for approval by the people and for the people!

  • SAL

    Obampa– a real diss ASS ter

  • http://invasion Michael J Anthony RVV

    Since omar ben obama won’t do anything, I think it would be great if all hunters in the U.S. would go to Arizona and asked the Governor for a hunting permit to hunt wet back insurgents, no limit.

    • 45caliber

      They could even have a contest. Ten points for a Mexican. Twenty for a Chinese. Fifty for a Muslim terrorist. If he is carrying explosives and blows up when he’s shot, a bonus! Twenty five for a mule (someone carrying drugs). Fifty for a gang member or a coyote. I’m sure we could come up with nice prizes.

      • eddie47d

        You and Michael have lost all credibility,

        • Convet

          And you…

      • JC

        I think they should be cash prizes with bonus’s.
        Then we would get some real talent out there.
        But in all fairness, we should warn the insurgents…the initial volley should do it. ;)

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        100 points for anyone named eddie47d.

  • john

    We have a coward in the White House and power-mongers in congress that are taking this country down the drain.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Left wing liberal pacifist appeasers. Thats what you get when they are in power. Look at all the punches we took when Clinton was in there playing with cigars instead of keeping us safe. They kept punching us in the nose, and Billy grabbed another cigar and another intern, then they punched again, and Billy grabbed another cigar. There was nothing done, but hide his head in the sand. Pacifism. I hate it.

  • Jim H.

    If U.S. citizens were armed intimidating people in this park the authority’s would be all over it. If U.S. citizens were armed, holed up in a Mexican park their authority’s would be all over it. Why should illegals be allowed to do this? It’s UNBELIEVABLE that this is going on in the most powerful nation in the world. If we told Obama that this was a Tea Party rally he would send in the Marines.

    • 45caliber

      Now that’s an idea! Tell Oblama that the people sneaking in are all conservative and want to vote for the GOP. He’d have soldiers standing shoulder to shoulder along that section of the border with orders to shoot to kill!

  • Ellen

    I totally agree with Chucky, absolutely, without a doubt. The free America we knew is soon coming to an end.

  • Jimmysan

    The way to effectively deal w/that [inappropriate comment removed] and his cronies like sharpton, farrakhan, wright, etc., is to provide them [inappropriate comment removed].

  • http://invasion Michael J Anthony RVV


    Proposed 28th Amendment Please read!

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .”

    An idea whose time has come

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop. This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come.

    But I really don’t blame the government, I blame the people who but them in office.

    Governors of 35 states have already filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (¾ of the 50) States to convene a Constitutional Convention.


  • Charlie Avila

    You, the illegal inmigrants and youths americans first voters, were who put Obama in the White House. You felt hate for Mr. McCain, and didn’t trust Mrs. Palin for vice., because he is Republican and Republicans agenda is to keep each day more strong and powerful our nation, and would throw out those trespassers immediately. So, you, the people who put Obama as president are the guilty ones of what is happening to our country today. YOU, heard when Obama said, he would change Washington and offered an “universal health care”, and talked using a socialist voice tone. You, youth voters and Latino people never asked Obama what those changes would be!!!. You voted for him blindly. Now we all have to face the same disasters that will be happening, because he just said that the gulf oil spill is NOT the only disaster and emergency we will face. I never trusted him. And, I hope, by November as soon as he sees he is loosing, the senate and congress, he would not call for a martial law and declare the nation under a dictator government!!!. We all will lose all civil and human rights!!!. He knows that to destroy our nation have to be as president of the United States. Congress and Senate are under his mandate. He is commander in chief of the military. So, youth american voters and Latinos, BIG MISTAKE!!!!!….We are going to get into a second civil war…..

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      This is truly what happens when uneducated people vote. And I dont mean uneducated, as in going to school. I mean uneducated, as in not finding out who the candidates are, where they are from, what they stand for, and what their plan is. Obama divulged none of this. Nobody knew who he was, where he was from, what he stood for, and what his plan was. And for the most part, 2 years in, we still dont know, other than its not for a strong America, as that much is obvious.

  • Jerry

    American authorities need to go into these areas given specific permission to shoot intruders on sight.

    • 45caliber

      Or at least, permission to protect themselves when they are shot at.

      • Vicki

        God already gave them permission to defend themselves. We need to better use the soapbox and jury box to defend them when they are attacked by their own government.

        • 45caliber

          I fully agree.

    • JC

      Actually, American citizens already have permission to wander freely on American soil, to defend themselves and to repel foreign invaders.
      So really there’s nothing stopping a group of say 20 men out for a week of hiking from engaging foreign aggressors on American soil in an act of self-defense, now is there?

  • John Despard

    Is this area part of the Gadsden Purchase of the late 19th, early 20th century era? If so we may be seeing the beginning of our own “Israel” much closer to home than the Middle East. We bought this land from Mexico and perhaps now some Mexicans whether they are aware of it or not are simply trying to return to their ancestral lands.

    • 45caliber

      Sorry but the Mexicans in that area were grateful to become American citizens and didn’t head south to form a rag-tail army bent on conquering the US.

  • El Vato

    People is time to wake up and smell the coffee!! forget your political preferences. We are loosing our freedom, I am first generation Mexican-American. Live along the border and it is dangerous out here we don’t even cross the border any longer. Mex-govn’t has lost control of its country. Politician are being kidnapped and killed if they do not agree with policies. The Cartel controls human trafficking and the corrupted police. Its a free for all in Mexico and it has been pouring into our counrty. It won’t be a fight with Mexican people but the cartel. We need to build the wall and protect our borders. We even have cartel leaders living in cities in our borders, they know that they can’t be touch here because of political correctness. And Obama is unamerican, read between the line the same happen in mexico when government decided to take over corporations and now I can’t belive its happening here!! All his lies and we are the fools for believing that Obama is trying to help us? All Lies. Like Mexicans taking jobs away from gueros, we only take the jobs that welfare recipients don’t want and won’t do because the system has made them lazy with free money. Another lie, Look at Brazill my friends they are looking into starting more drilling with US Dollars (loans) Why??? I thought Obama said no more, yet he funds other countries to explore drilling. The Same happened in Mexico and now PEMEX belongs to Government and we see nothing. OPENS Your EYES!!!!!!!! I feel as Americans we can still salvage AMERICA. VIVA AMERICA!!!!

    • Muffd

      I agree all we have had is lies.How does he stay President when he does not have both parents as US citizens as required by the Constitution? McCain was made to prove his US citizenship after all
      he had done for our country. All he wants is to sell out US to comunists.This was his first visit to foreign countries when he appoligized for how bad we are. IT IS TIME TO IMPEACH THE WHOLE OBAMA

  • richard serino

    i have been saying this for years this people make 2 dollars a day where do you think they get the money to come from the mexican goverment just like castro did they are sending all the undiseables and they have a lot of them


    defending our borders cant even do that i would say that our time is up .
    either we have something to defend or we hand it over in which they are doing . my representative believes that other things are more important
    but they dont think illegal imagration is important . i think it all stems from our borders ignored for many years.
    and not caring wheather they are here or not . both dems and rep.
    i know they want to open the borders and sell out our history .
    they meaning our goverment. to the un .
    than bill and his friends can controll us all other diversions do not make any since. yes its big money calling the shots not americans.
    i am for bi cots i am froming one as we speak, we should call for voluteers to go down to arizona from every state for a sit in at the border
    500 from each state 25000 people for 3 days the borders we ignored by many presidents . so it is up to us. to let them know .
    im so tried of woods the gofer , and oil covered off.

  • Kohl

    OK….everybody relax, take a deep breath….just relax. Time out for just a minute. I know your outrage but this kind of stuff has been happening for more than a century. I’m a Texan and having spent many, many summers and winters on the border, along the Rio Grand and the Big Bend Country up through El Paso (and I don’t speak a word of Spanish), I’ve NEVER had any problems with Mexicans, either legal or illegal. For the greatest part, you’ll never have any problems with the Mexican people. Please don’t equate the bad with the good. If you look at most of the videos, you’ll see that the illegals crossing the AZ border are young, probably in their teens and twenties. Crossing the border for them is strangely, a”rite of passage”…no pun intended. Most will not be staying. Most of these younger Mexicans live in small border towns and have been shuffling back and forth since they could walk. They work, party and sooner or later go back, on their own or with Border Patrol help. Now the serious stuff…the drug gangs occuping the NP along AZ’s border and drug gangs in the US and along the Southwestern border, the Mexican Military and police facing off and crossing into our country. This has been a problem since the turn of the 19th century! Remember Pancho Villa and his raids across the Texas border? W.Wilson ordered General “Blackjack” Pershing to cross the border to hunt him and his gang and either capture or kill him. (Sounds like Afganistan). George Patton ‘made his bones’ here by shooting and killing two Mexicans with his Colt revolver. The ‘Expiditionary Force’ never caught Pancho. But that was then; what do we do now? Secure our border! But we can ‘work hard or work smart’. We can’t depend on either federal governments to do it. And don’t expect a complete ‘seal’ of the border. Study the Berlin Wall; while it stood, people from the East were constantly innovating ways to get across. We can learn many valuable lessons from ‘the Cold War’ on how to deal with our border problems. But remember, good border control must begin with good ‘local’ relations. Each border state has its’ own unique problem with illegals and crime. AZ MUST be allowed to solve its’ problem, just as Texas, New Mexico and California. The Mexicans KNOW that their government doesn’t care about them and their economic survival depends on the U.S. One possible solution: repeal current drug laws. This would deprive the cartels who corrupt Mexican state , local and Federal governments the money to do so.

    • Airangel

      Kohl..the wall is not an end all but a “hold-off” until we can gain control of the situation and of liberating Mexico and our own states of the drug cartel…we can not focus on deportation or control until a wall is in place making it harder to cross, except via necessary check-points…Trampling the Drug Cartel will be no easy task but the wall will make it easier to control who is coming and going, not to mention controlling and limiting terrorists from coming in from the South so we can have more focus on the mission…our tax dollars spend so much money on law enforcement deporting and incarcerating illegals only to have keep coming across over and over because it’s so easy…I suppose we could round them up and put them in the Fema Camps that are currently unoccupied right now..One is in Glendale, CA and 2 others in CA, haven’t researched if any are in AZ….could hold them all there!

      • Vicki

        Do you have locations on those FEMA camps? A lot of folk have heard they exist but no evidence. Maybe if more folk could see the camps for themselves they might understand why some of us are worried.

      • eddie47d

        You love your death camp crap don’t you. there are vampires and leprecans too.

        • Airangel

          Eddie…I said Fema Camps, not death camps…they are all over the United States, just google 2010 Fema Camps..some links and videos will be garbage and scare tactics but the ones identifying the locations and the Executive Orders for FEMA are real and in play as we speak…many were designed for Terrorist attacks, housing those needing to flee urban cities under attack whether from Mother Nature or Humans…so their existence is proven, whether that’s what they use them for is what is in question. A compilated start..

        • Al Sieber

          So eddie47d, which one are you, a vampire, Leprecan or a liberal?

          • JeffH

            Al Sieber, does two out of three count? Little man with “dull” teeth and a POTUS lover…

          • JC

            I remember people like eddie from school days. Full of hate and resentment of everyone who had achieved anything. Loners that everyone thought were just plain creepy…you know, the one that ends up on the front page and everyone says…”He was a quiet man who mowed his lawn regularly…”
            Some people just never do develop into human beings capable of thinking on their own.

          • eddie47d

            Several people on this site have called FEMA camps death camps over the last several weeks. So you must be the cute little lepracan.

          • JC

            What are they for eddie?
            Why are they there?

  • Mike Hilliard

    Folks, folks, you really must gain focus on the issues. I could care less who the president is at the moment – it doesn’t matter. I could care less if president # 1, # 2, or # 3 is the worst of all time.
    What is important is we, the American people, have lost control of our own boarders. What is important is we, the same American people, are losing control of our own government.
    Let’s stop calling names, let’s stop pointing fingers and elect a representative who will do what is necessary to bring us back from the brink of disaster.
    So call them dumb, stupid, jacka**es won’t get the job done. Put your head down, think for a minute, and seek a candidate who will do what needs to be done.

    That folks, is how a Republic runs.

  • Airangel

    Bob, thank you for bringing this to light. I have wondered why the Laimstream media has not said anything about it…well actually I know, they don’t want the outrage or the publicity as it will be harder to push their Amnesty agenda…right now they like everyone opposing Arizona and Boycotting themn as the “bad guys”. I have signed and written to my senators and congressmen and Governor.

    Also, we need to slam Lieberman’s office with protests about going after the internet in the name of “Cyber security”…Obama and administration can not push their agendas through with everyone getting informed too quickly via internet and he doesn’t like being “put down” and “ridiculed”….they want to stifle all the information as it has been a thorn in their side!

  • meteorlady

    I think we should boycott all Mexican products, all vacations there and anything that supports the corrupt regime in power.

    I think I am heading to Arizona for a little vacation in support of them.

    I also don’t think that we have ceded anything to Mexico but believe that they are slowly taking over some of our territory and it’s going to be hard to get them out of there. Just last week the Mexican army raided a Zetas camp near Higueras, Mexico which is not far from Laredo, Texas. The patches on the uniforms are from the Zetas gang that is affiliated with Mexican and Guatemalan drug cartels.

    What they found was a massive arsenal of twelve SUVs and trucks loaded with weapons. Each vehicle contained military and police-issue accessories. It’s estimated that they found around 200 automatic rifles and 30 pistols. They also found grenade and rocket launchers, along with over 300 magazines and military style uniforms. There was a box of sixty grenades and 25 of them got away.

    For those of you that don’t know Texas, Laredo is the start if I35 which heads straight through Texas and has lots of trucks coming in from Mexico daily. So this all could be coming to a town near you.

    • Barney

      Legalizing drugs would take the money away from the cartels.Since our government loves nation building so much, why not rebuild mexico? Bring the troops home and put them on the border.

      • coal miner


        I agree.We build our country up first and than Mexico.

  • http://BobLivingston Doger

    Good Report.
    I am ready to lead a movement to build the wall around Washington D.C. and not let any more Liberalsl, Bureaucrats, Open Border Crowd and especially PROGRESSIVES out. Then we can take the rest of the country back ands close the border. Enough is enough!

  • Barney

    Bring the troops home from iraq and afghanistan and put them on the border

  • Jim K.

    It seems our hope for saving Arizona and our country from being taken over by Muslim Obama and Mexican Cartels is to vote out Liberial Dem’s this November with follow-up to get Muslim Obama out in 2012. There will be tremendous damage to our freedom and country during Muslim Obama’s time in office, however American is worth fighting for and we must not let the bad guys control our destiny.
    Keep up the great spirt for free American and encourage people to vote out liberials trying to destroy our country this November. This includes Reid, Pelosi, and many many other liberials that need to be voted out of political power. Good to hear so much support from Great Americans wanting to take back America.

  • Sion

    The same thing it started in the 60′s with arafat in Israel, and take a look what happening today in Gaza and the west bank.
    I know for the American people it is hard to believe that it will happen. Myself and just everybody in Israel taught the same, well, we were wrong, and if you think the same, you could be wrong too, Are you willing to take that chance,?. We did take a big one by voting for barak hussein obama, Were are we now?.

    • Vicki

      Learn from history or be prepared to repeat it.

  • William

    TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK TALK Wake up America and smell the napalm burning. It’s the morning war show. Our own government is selling us down the river and doing a damn fine job of it. Civil war is coming down the road IF the administration does nothing about the insult to our borders going on in Arizona. It is an insult to our constitution to allow this invasion (if it is true) of our borders and do nothing. I like the gentleman’s suggestion of going to Arizona and getting a hunting license, using the reason of hunting animals of course. At the moment I do not own a single gun, however that can be easily and quickly changed. I understand the area in question in Arizona is fairly rugged. No problem. You learn a lot crawling through the jungle for two years in Viet Nam. Why should our boys shed their blood on foreign soil when their is a fine war shaping up right here in America?

    • Jimmysan

      Roger that,William. In a nutshell, peace through fire superiority. Semper Fi from a retired US Marine.

  • James

    I read some time ago where we had national guard troops on the border and were soon fired upon by uniform wearing mexicans and retreated without firing a shot back at them???? my question is were they under orders “not” to fire back??
    Students in California raised the mexican flag above our national flag and got away with it??? Where are the Patriots here in the USA???
    That is against our laws or so its said!???
    God Bless Arizonas Govenor!! at least she has some guts to take a stand!!!! Vote out all the wimps in washington this november!!! as well as all the tax evading crooks along with them!! Thanks for allowing my two cents worth!!
    JRK “James”

  • Iron Worker

    The above article erroneously gives the ceded area as 3,500 Acres, which divided by the 80 mile length, would equal only a 360 foot wide swath… (certainly not 3 counties) so, I will assume that the author meant 3,500 square miles, since – -

    (3,500 Ac.)/(640 Ac/Sq.Mile) = 5.47 Sq. Miles

    (5.47 Sq. Miles)/(80 miles) = 0.0683 miles

    (0.0683 miles) X (5,280 Ft./Mile) = 360 feet . . .

    However, if you assume that the author meant 3,500 square miles, then it works, mathematically. (3,500 Square Miles = approx. 80 miles X 43 miles)

    • JC

      That sounds a little more accurate IW, thanks.

  • Ramon

    HaHa! Mexico will reclaim the states that were stolen from us starting with Arizona. Your government is so gullible and stupid and american people are like ignorant sheep being lead to slaughter. That’s why we come over the border for example to Yuma, AZ and collect our welfare and benefit checks at american post office boxes and come back into Mexico and cash them. We bring our family over for medical treatments that you pay for and also come over to have our babies there. Billions of dollars have been given to our government to ‘combat crime on the border’ but none of the money given to Mexico is used for that. We have people come over to your national parks to grow marijuana and then sell it to you. I appreciate that americans are so absorbed into hollywood and there high tech gadgets that they are stupid as to what is happening to them. We will take you over. Si se puede!!!!!

    • Jimmysan

      Ramon, you refried bean burning piece of dog crap, come to TN talking that crap, and I promise you your ass will be sent back to Tijuana in a body- bag.

    • El Vato

      Orale! way to use reverse psychology!

    • JC

      Nothing was stolen…you sold it.

    • JC

      PS Pamon, using your logic, when are you going to get out of Mexico and give it back to the Indians?

    • bp

      Ramon; Too bad Mexico doesn’t put as much effort into improving its own country! You SOLD the land that is Arizona; now go develop what you have instead of worrying about what is NO LONGER yours! We love, and may God save and bless, the United States of America!!!!!

    • Viktor Leben


      When the US military Takes over Mexico City and the Stars and Stripes are flying (permanently) over our new conquered Mexican Territory, we will see if you are still laughing !!!

      The Republic is awaken, Glory Glory Hallelujah !! God’s troops keep marching on !

    • Claire

      Ramon–Si Se Puede?? Yes, it can be done? Don’t get too big for your britches. You underestimate the power and fortitude of the American people. Go ahead, start something and you will find out Americans will finish it. Sheeple? You have another think coming. You and your ilk will be the ones to be led to no man’s land.

    • Jill, Ca.

      Why would you ever want it back when you have it so good now?

    • Al Sieber

      Ramon, you don’t have the manpower or enough weapon’s to take us over, besides, most of you are cowards.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      you two bit flea bag ,scumbag go crawl back into your filth ladened barrio and make that horse of yours happy because he cant walk,and why? because your acting like a horses butt,and when you eat your burrito,remember this dont put that thing in your mouth,for your mouth is spouting out more horsecrap than it can handle ,sonny,best put it in the back of your pants,and save it for later,that way it can have a real beaner taste? best pick up some flys to put on the top of the national food of 7.62x54r 187gram boattails,get the point sonny,and these are speical and after you taste one youll never go back to eating burritos,or eating anything,and thats a promise from an old guy that shot flys off piles of cow muffins at a hundred yards,i reckon you fit the picture.asta la taco moron.

  • http://CedingArizonatoMexico “Warrior”

    Hey Ramon,
    Go back home. If we are so stupid, why is it all of you wetbacks want to come and live here?

  • Annette


    • Airangel

      Taco Eater? Now that’s precious! Thanks for burst of laughter. I don’t know why that cracked me up so bad….we fight each other on so many issues but when it comes to defending Americans against foreign invaders….we’re pretty united – like a lioness defending her cubs! Taco Eater Ha ha ha ha ha ROFL – love it!

  • cactus

    I’m planning to hike and camp in Arizona in an area that
    the federal government has essentially ceded state property
    to Mexican criminals. If I’m attacked and defend myself,
    should I report it causing an international incident, or
    just forget about it? Obama has said he intentionally
    is not enforcing federal laws to protect the borders because
    he wants to use that to threaten American citizens to support
    his policies. As explained here by Senator Kyl-–.html
    I would fear for my life from the US government if I reported a gun fight with the Mexican criminals. Does nay one have comments about
    how to best handle this?

    • JC

      Bring a dozen friends, twice as much ammunition as you think you’ll need, fully automatic weapons, grenades and night vision scopes…just for starters.

      • cactus

        JC- I don’t want to start a war, just not get shot. In Arizona everyone who wants to can have a gun. And openly carry it without permits. Same for rifles. Night vision scopes and bullet proof vests are also easily obtainable at gun shops. But how do you protect yourself when Obama will not allow enforcement of even federal laws? Senator Kyl seems to know what is going on, and even he can’t do anything about it.–.html

      • JC

        Hey Cactus, I guess i was being a little facetious.
        Suggest you hike somewhere else or go back and see my first suggestion.
        A guy with “a gun” doesn’t stand a chance if you run into trouble there.

    • Jill, Ca.

      Obama will “kick your Ass!”

    • Al Sieber

      cactus, I use to work in that area and my work consisted of surveying and geologic mapping, so my worker and I had to camp out for weeks. we’d build a camp fire and within a half a hour we were surrounded by Mexican’s wanting to know the direction of Tucson, and how far? please for your sake stay away from there, it is extremely dangerous, not counting the mountain lions and Jaguars. I forgot to add, that was in 1986.

      • JC

        Did you point them back towards Mexico? ;)

    • cactus

      Thanks people for advice about hiking and camping in restricted area. Clearly just a handgun for self defense would be inadequate. Think I’ll pass and go somewhere else.

  • hundabuxt

    We’re all a bunch of blustering sheep. Talk is getting us nowhere. I doubt America as we know it can survive another 2 years of this and even then, I don’t have confidence in the plebiscite process anymore because I fear it can be manipulated. We the taxpayers have subsidized our own destruction with our funds going to support organizations like ACORN. If you look at all of the more successful changes to governments historically, it has taken something more than talk. The Tea Party is a start but they’re too tame in my view. Even the queers have promoted their agenda successfully with in your face (no pun intended) politics. Dr. King, Mahatnma Gandhi, Mandella and many others largly demonstrated peacefully but there was a more agressive aspect to the effort if you get my drift. It takes commitment and potential suffering, something I doub’t Americans collectively have the stomach for until its too late, and its about 11:15 now.

  • Brutus

    I can’t believe the Hate sprewed by Morons.. My son is 35 and couldn’t find a job. so he start picking melons.. there were 16 whites in his group. the Pick leader would send them to a field to pick everyday.. It took a few days to figure out that they were in 2nd and 3rd pick fields.. only the mexicans were allowed to pick in the 1st pick fields.. my son brought home $8.00 for a 10 hour day.. they have the white boys driving the Vans to other fields because none of the mexicans have Driving license ? Hmm surly not Illeagl??
    We can build a Cheap fence using Hogwire.. build a double row fence about 30′ apart.. plant mines in the middle.. paint the tops of the fence red and post big danger signs. warning of the mines.. we can buy cheap mines from other countries.. I believe this will cut way down on crossings.. About President Obama.. I can’t believe all the Palin following Morons that believe this is the presidents fault.. Also why can’t you provide a link to the lies you are spreading. That would help so much better to make me believe you are not 11 years old.. SECURE our Borders NOW !!!

    • Jill, Ca.

      So are you pro or anti-Obummer? It’s hard to tell.

  • DB

    Can’t the governor call up the national guard in his state? Why do we need Obama to do it?

  • chefboyhowdy

    You know something, the illegal crossing is real easy to stop! Just pass a emigration reform bill, one with some sharks teeth in it. Make it a federal crime to hire anyone in this country illegaly. Punisable by 5to10 years in the federal penitentiary and a $250.000.00 fine or both. Take away all the government services such, schooling, medical, wellfare, social security and so forth. Repeal the law giving US citizenship to babies born here and make it harder for emigrants to bring families over here. Folks it’s just that damn easy!!!

  • Sidney Greenberg

    Suggestion: Stop calling them “Liberals” and/or “Progressives.” Just as they are against political “Liberty,” they are actually “Regressives,” in that they seek to “regress” the general public back into child-equivalent wards of the State.

  • Arizona Born US Citizen

    Yes the lower part of Arizona and part of New Mexico is part of The Gadsen Purchase which the U.S. paid Mexico for……..look up the Gadsen Purschase on

    • 45caliber

      And if I remember correctly, the rest of AZ and NM were bought from Mexico as part of the Louisiana Purchase. CA came into the Union after they had paid Santa Anna a big fee to be independent. Texas simply revolted when Santa Anna started requiring people to turn their lands over to some of his supporters.

      • eddie47d

        Az and N.M. had nothing to do with the Louisiana Purchase.

  • Ramon

    Hundabuxt has the best words here next to mine. It’s over for you ignorant american gringo losers. jimmysan i can come to your hillbilly tennessee and whup you and your slut woman, take your property and use the aclu to sue your ignorant briar ass. There are people there already getting your kids hooked on drugs and taking your money you bobo idiot. America is losing the war in afganistan and iraq and will now lose the war in it’s own back yard. california, arizona, texas and florida will belong to us soon in entirity. Your government is infiltrated and there will no longer be america. Your government has given some of Alaska to Russia and will now give the western states to us…oh! I forgot…we already have them. SI SE PUEDE!!!

    • Jimmysan

      Bring it on you mexican bastard!

      • eddie47d

        He’s full of it and just pulling your chain so stop being so gullible.

    • JC

      Sometimes the best way to see a racist insurgent is through the cross hairs.

  • 45caliber

    La Raza has been insisting for years that we give the four border states back to Mexico. I guess Oblama decided to do that, a little at a time, to get their vote. It seems to me that it would be easier and cheaper to put a few hundred National Guards there with orders to stop anyone crossing. But what do I know? I’m only an American citizen, not a politician.

  • L P

    I have a most difficult time calling him the president of the USA too. It illogical to do so. He has not earned that title; apparently he loathes our Constitution, seems he hates anything about the American people. I go along with you in calling this individual Commi. Yes, it fits precisely. …… November is far too late. Actually, the Commi is most likely counting on us all to think that November will solve all of our serious problems. Are we his fools, really? Doesn’t anyone think factually that the man must be removed from the White House immediately, locking the doors to the Oval Office from him. The man plans to cripple us completely so that we will have to beg to Heil Commi and then he’ll sarcastically smile down at us. Of course their are many that will join him because they’ve been steeped in the false education of relativism that has been taught in our gov’t schools to help pave the way for total confusion. Has anyone been keeping up on what he and his dead-brained ilk are doing and planning to do even more to our youth? One day they will turn away from their families and do the Commi’s bidding, following his “orders.” This is being done behind parents’ backs. They are being indoctrinated. Keep a close eye on your schools when you send them and any so-called”internship” during or after schools for the students to be involved (you know, insured Commi followers drones.) Yes it all seems so surreal, but these people are dead serious in remaking The U.S.A and controlling everything about our very lives.

    • 45caliber

      I don’t call him “President” Oblama; he brings disgrace to the name.

  • JRHowosso

    Suck all that oil in the GoM and deposit it in the Rio Grand If they make it through the 20 foot deep sludge on foot, give them their papers


    What needs to be done is called law enforcement, in schools across thecountry it used to be if you cut in line while awaiting the cafeteria, you were in deep doo doo if you were spotted and punished accordingly.

    We have elctees who know how to use the law to remove these Deemers who have cut in line and made a mockery of punishment but knowing and using is two different things…we also have a number of those who demonstrate cowardice and not leadership.


    What needs to be done is called law enforcement, in schools across the country it used to be if you cut in line while awaiting the cafeteria, you were in deep doo doo if you were spotted and punished accordingly.

    We have electees who know how to use the law to remove these Deemers who have cut in line and made a mockery of punishment but knowing and using is two different things…we also have a number of those who demonstrate cowardice and not leadership.

  • http://none jimmyD

    Sorry Kate8 — you just posted an email that has been going around for a year or so now. There is NO case going to the Supreme Court re Obama’s citizenship. I agree that he is holding the office illegally, but he IS in office, and he’s not about to allow any documentation about him be released from anywhere, and no lawsuits are about to be heard by the Supreme Court. My hope is that we can get him out of office before he completely destroys the country.
    On the other hand, he IS personally responsible for a tremendous conservative back-lash. We should be thanking him for that.

    • kate8

      jimmyD, are you sure? Because the Supreme Court was scheduled to hear this case in June of this year. I assumed that it had come to docket.

      If this was an old email, I stand corrected. I got so excited when I read it. I should have verified it before posting.

      • kate8

        JimmieD, I just checked the release date for the article I posted: May 24, 2010.

        Columbia U didn’t release Obama’s “records” until very recently. This article appears to be, in fact, current.

  • Dan Burke

    I read this and thought to myself, “Well, this sounds like the progressives will be conceding American territory after all.” It will make things so much easier for them. By having America fractured, then they can become the same dictatorship as elsewhere and we would not have the unified strength as a nation to oppose it. Severing our ties with our historical allies that are traditionally other nations that a have some form of free people and creating bonds with dictatorships makes sense when planning the destruction of America. Why? Because if you really do slip into a dictatorship and the people do rebel against it, you need those who would support a dictatorship to be friendly to the new regime and at the same time you would need to have the former allies so offended by our nation that they would not want to help our people defend themselves. To top things off, it might be good if those nations that could help Americans stave off a dictatorship, it would be good if they were tied up with there own concerns such that they could not respond with aid either. Oh yeah, I know, perhaps our administration could advise the European nations to spend even more money into deficits until their all governments were all in economic danger too…. Oh wait! That is what our administration has been doing.

    While I am no fan of conspiracy theories, I do think that there are too many influential and self-interested people in this political game that we give a free pass and assume that just having a selected education makes them our saviors and guides into the future. I remember being disgusted by the political theory I heard coming from a “conservative” university. I wanted to cry and scream. The idea was to pit too opposing evils against each other and in the balance you ensured that no evil was passed into law.

    I guess I took a different lesson from another class in that same university dealing with early US history and the structure of America. I figured that the basic idea was that we took our best and made those our representatives. We then had a structure of government to protect us from our best people because we accepted several ideas. Among those ideas included “power corrupts” and that “mankind is not perfect,” so even our best could unintentionally do us harm without checks and balances.

    If you stick civilians in between two groups of terrorists fighting amongst each other, who gets killed and hurt? So why should I just support the idea of balancing Republicans versus Democrats? I will agree that swinging the pendulum of complete power back the Republicans would be a very bad thing. Why? Just look at what the Democrats are doing right now that they are in control of the executive and the legislative branch.

    I can only believe that we will have the right government if we start electing our best representatives, those who represent the best we have to offer. That is why I have actually been happy to see that the Republican party is having to deal with candidates they did not want to endorse, same as some of the Democrats candidates. It isn’t perfect, but I feel like it is a step in the right direction.

    The candidacy of Greene is a great example of how foolish it seems that the American voter has become, and the Democratic parties reaction a great example of how addicted to power both the politicians have become. As a people, we’ve stopped thinking and judge based on appearance or what we think we can get out of it. What is in it for me?

    Do you respect the parent who gives you everything you desire? No. You might love them. You might think they are the greatest and wonder why more parents aren’t like that. That doesn’t mean you respect them or that they have done the right things. Sure, there is the opposite, controlling and abusive parents. But what of those parents who demonstrate love for their child be saying, “NO!” Whether that be “No, we cannot afford that,” or “No, you don’t need that,” or “No, the consequences are terrible.” Some of those same parents teach us to work hard, be helpful, and think for ourselves.

    It seems in matters politic that we are quick to accept as our leaders the ones who give us everything we want instead of the ones will actually tell us “No!” In other words, we the people pick greed over need and then wonder why we get beat up in the resulting fight between Republicans and Democrats. Personally, I reject the idea of pitting two evils against each other. Whatever happened to pitting the best of us against each other? To electing our honest? Our trustworthy? Our faithful?

    • bp

      Dan; SOMEBODY ?????? Paid Greene’s filing fee! Not him, he’s broke!?

  • louis

    sometime back in the 1984 there was a two meetings held in the US at the same time, one was from L A the other was from St Louis. These meetings were about america to restore it’s freedoms. they had a a video(satlite linkup) about how those who from south of the border, would come across our border and cause this nation to crash and fail.overloading all of its resources from food stamps, to welfare. they said drugs and other illegals wanting to come to America. some where thinking back then, this might be our emenys would causing this to happen. So that America would collape,underminding our way of life,By overloading our resources. they could come cross the border to invade us. Well no matter was then or now, our borders are being over run by illegals, cheep trade agreements [nafta], the over running of cheep stuff from china [walmart] when a nation allows cheep labor to become a part of the marketplace, they are raising a white flag to those who are south of our border, and any other nation, there are saying to them it is to cross our border for work. When some are so hook on cheep labor to run what type of busineses they have,cheep labor has become almost a mainstay for some in this nation. cheep labor its become just as crack cocain is to the person who is hook on crack, when cheep labor is allowed, you under mine this natitons abiliity to function economically. compounded by the illegal drugs from mexico, cheep or almost free labor, the threat from muslims that just siting over our border waiting to strike us. China’s role is undermining any type of busines it can get, when NAFTA was put into place, sochina started to undermind mexico’s price advanage from NAFTA.

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  • hundabuxt

    I find it amusing Ramon calls we Americans “losers” when the Mexican government is 5 times as corrupt as our government (but we’re working hard to close the gap) the gulf between the haves and have nots in Mexico is vast, which prompts the hopeless to risk coming to our crummy country because their POS country has taken all the goodies and opportunities. Mexico happily exports their poverty and sits back to wait for the $13 billion the illegal criminals send back home, which serves to further promote their corrupt agenda. If Mexico is so great, what the hell are 20 million illegal Mexican citizens doing in America? If the Mexicans succeed in taking back Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico, those States will simply become like POS Mexico and they’ll have to keep working North to stay ahead of the corruption and inequity. To make matters more interesting, we have Americans who help the cause by hiring illegals. There is one word for such people: “traitor’s” and they should be lined up against a wall and dealt with like Mexico used to do during their revolution.
    But again Americans don’t have the guts for it. We’re like sheep being lead to the slaughter and we’re even paying Judas a salary.
    Jefferson should be turning over in his grave. Now there’s an American who had guts and he had lots of company. People willing to sacrifice.

  • Ms. Lupe Weaver

    That young teenager that got shot was here in El Paso, TX. That young boy was also in the 10 most wanted by the FBI. He was a drug smuggler and human smuggler. The way they do things is they will throw rocks at the agents, and divert them while the illegals cross the river. These kids over there have their own parents teaching them how to get away with murder. I have no sympathy for that boy or his family. They all know what they were doing. And now just wait and they will be demanding money from the USA, saying that no murder should have occurred. There are so many things happening right now. Also, the Muslims have their terrorists coming in from all over Mexico and Canada into the USA. Just remember that rocks can do a lot of damage. They hurt and maim and kill also. Remember David killed Goliath with a stone.

    • bp

      Ms. Lupe; They grow up fast in Mexico; called survival, no childhood.

      • Airangel

        BP…doesn’t make it right to prey on innocent citizens…wrong is wrong

      • JC

        Good point. Don’t underestimate how little they value human life…especially American life.

  • Joel Brind

    The US Constitution has a remedy for this, in Article 1, Section X:

    “No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep
    Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact
    with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually
    invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.”

    The last two clauses tell the story. Since Arizona has been “actually invaded” and is “imminent Danger” and protection from which is still being wilfully delayed, it seems pretty clear to me that AZ has the constitutional right to raise an army to defend itself against Mexico.

  • Bob from Socal

    I think that the sheriff of Pinal county (Paul Babeu) should just bypass the federal government, since they are not so eager to help with the border situation. He should just call on the Minutemen. I’m sure he could without a doubt get a great deal of armed patriots to volunteer. He just needs to deputize them to make it legal.

    • Airangel

      They would go to a slaughter…Mexico’s Drug Cartel has way more fire power that our citizens would have…we need military might and tanks and need to match them with same weaponry…grenades, rocket launchers, tanks, machine guns, etc….or genius planning to out think and out smart them which I’m sure we could…Americans traditionally has always been smart in being tactical.

    • JC

      The Sherriff’s authority and his oath to uphold the Constitution actually supercede Presidential authority in his county. Especially when we have no President.

  • hundabuxt


    Your post is of course correct. That would be the way to correct this horrible problem but you forget one thing: Our government doesn’t want to stop the border problem and its not just Obama. This has been going on for several administrations. That idiot Bush didn’t do anything and neither did Clinton and even Regan remarkably, which gives credibility to those who believe that control of this country goes far higher than our own government. There’s a reason for it and it appears that a greater power is controlling the strings. All we have are puppets.

    • 45caliber

      When Clinton was still in college, he spent a semester at UofA. He did a lot of bragging. One of the brags was: “I’m going to be President some day. And if you don’t go to bed with me, I’ll remember it when I’m President.”

      Anyway, he stated that he had been selected by a group of eight people – all from New England. They would put him into the Presidency if he did what they told him to do. He was only one of those they had selected to train across the country.

      Several of us began to watch him, even though he was still in college. I’m one year younger than he is and I went into the Army out of highschool as a volunteer. After three years, I started school the year after he graduated. By that time he had moved back to New England.

      With some speculation, we decided that the main part of the sponsors were MSM people. They controlled all the main Eastern papers, the American Radio Network, and at least two of the tv news – NBC and CBS. We weren’t sure of ABC. We believed that due to the way the news media covered him – and didn’t cover him. We never found out actual names, though. Rumors also said that they were the ones to pick out Hillary as his wife since she would fit him. This is still speculation.

      We do know that he was being paid $50,000 a year to go to school. That was his word on it. At considering that most people made less than $1000 a month, that was BIG pay. Rumors also said that most of his tests and all his term papers were written by others. That was supposedly how he became a Rhodes Scholar.

      He went to England to attend Oxford. The first semester he spent organizing three or four Communist protests. Then he was invited to go to Russia by their government. He went although no one knows what occurred there.

      When he returned, he ran for Congress from my district in AR. He spent about $500,000 on the campaign; the GOP incubrent spent about $50,000 and won. Considering the GOP member had a 100% approval rating from his district on his voting, this wasn’t a surprise.
      The next election he ran as lieutenant governor of AR. At that time the GOP only ran someone for governor, Congress, and the Senate. So he had no local opposition from the Democrats or the GOP for that position. It was considered the “good ole boy” position – the safe place they gave people who were working for the Dems in the state to insure they had a paycheck for the next two years.

      Immediately he began to be heard from almost every day in the news although up until that time we scarcely even knew we had a lieutenant governor. He got more coverage than the governor did. When the next election came up, Sen. Fullbrite – considered the third most powerful man in Washington – took early retirement at age 62 which opened up that position. The governor, Prior, took it which left the governship up in the air. But Bill had the name recognition due to his time in office and won.

      Perhaps you’ve heard the name “Slick Willy”. It was given to him because he ran his position from a pool hall across the street. If you wanted to speak to the governor you had to pay him $100 to play a game of pool. As long as the game lasted, you could talk to him. He racked up a lot of money that way.

      Hillary, in the meantime, was caught having sex with two convicts brought in to pull weeds from the capitol flower beds – in the flower beds. She was asked by a reporter if it was true. She stated, “H3ll yes. I had to do something. That wimp of a bas***d I married is useless in bed.” The next morning she filed for divorce. The day after she was placed in a hospital for a nervous breakdown by her “family”. (I doubt very seriously if you will find any mention of that now although it was front page news in the Arkansas Gazette at the time.)

      This occurred just as Bill began running for his second term as governor. His campaign went to h3ll. He lost – although there were many reasons given for it.

      A year after he lost (two years after Hillary went to the hospital) she was released. Word on campus was that she had been told that a divorce would hurt him politically but her death wouldn’t. Again, rumor. He won his next election and remained governor until he became President.

      During his term as governor, he had several scandles about women and drugs. He owned 50% of a plane that flew out of Mena, AR, which carried in two loads of cocaine a week. When it was discovered, he first said he had no idea what went on and didn’t know the pilot. Later he admitted he knew the pilot from his days in high school but didn’t know what he was doing.

      There are quite a few other things about him but it was obvious he was being controlled if you think about it once he became President. He would nominate a total unknown seemingly on the spur of the moment without any consulatation or guidance by any of the more powerful Dems in Washington. He would also pull some decisions out of his hat the same way.

      This group of people are certainly powerful or they would never have gotten Fullbrite to resign when he did. They also have power in BOTH parties since there were some things NOT done during the elections. For instance, no effort was made by Bush SR. to talk to anyone from AR about how well he did as governor even though they did talk to people from other states about it.

      I have no doubt that Oblama is also hand-picked, possibly by the same group of people. But Oblama is also controlled a lot by those placed by him with him. The group may have decided that Clinton didn’t have enough control and they wanted to insure that Oblama did.

      • bp

        45; I would believe you; however, it is a well-known fact in Arkansas that Hillary is gay!

        • 45caliber

          She wasn’t then. She became gay when she got out of the slammer – ah, hospital. There are also rumors that Chealsy isn’t his.

      • cactus

        What you are saying was being talked about BS also before he was elected.
        The Kenyen is a Manchurian candidate. He has no experience or qualifications for the job,and was a radically left-wing major-party presidential candidate, was mentored and supported for decades by terrorists (Ayers), communists (Davis), America-hating racists (Wright) and criminals (Rezko).

  • Joe

    Note the prophetic date of this memo.
    To: The American Taxpayer 03/12/09
    From: Joe
    Re: The Heartless

    Again the Conspirators have proven that they are heartless. The “Heartless Conspirators” have thrust the kid, Barack Hussein Mohamed Obama, whose only talent is to rap using reasonably good English, into the position of “Leader of the Free World”.

    The “Barack Kid” eloquently pontificates using reasonably good English and is oblivious to what is causing his pain while the Russian Bear bites him in the ass and the China Tiger claws him down the back side while the little puppies (like North Korea, Iran, France, etc…) nip at his heels.

    Who are these “Heartless Conspirators”? To name a few, they are the left wing liberal politicians, the US socialists and communists, the radical environmentalist, the left wing liberal socialist/communist media. These cretins have conspired to create crisis after crisis for uncountable years with the objective of changing the US to an environment suitable for the many little “Kings and Queens” who have wiggled themselves into politics and bureaucracies.

    There is an old Chinese proverb that states:

    Crisis + Chaos = Opportunity

    The preverbal straw that broke the camel’s back was the fuel crisis, caused by “Heartless Conspirators”. This caused the American Taxpayer to have to pay up to $5 per gallon for fuel. At this point, the American Taxpayer rebelled. We quit buying fuel. We quit traveling. We quit spending money. Now we have chaos. The equation is complete. There is now Crisis + Chaos which creates Opportunity.

    There is now Opportunity for the “Heartless Conspirators” to change the US to an environment suitable for the many little “Kings and Queens” who have wiggled themselves into politics and bureaucracies. The “Heartless Conspirators” are guided only by the approach whereby the end justifies the means.

    There are some who think that we are past the point of no return.

    Sincerely, Joe

    Norman Mattoon Thomas (November 20, 1884 – December 19, 1968 ( some of us are old enough to remember him running for President). He was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America. Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:
    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” He went on to say: “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

    • bp

      Joe; I believe we will see the end of the Democratic Party by 2012; just hope it won’t be too late!

      • TIME

        I would say your spot on, if and this is a really big IF for now, > in November 2010 we can take back the house’s we can stop this Marxist take over dead in its tracks.

        Now the down side, the democrats will then become the American Marxist Party in its out of the closet form.
        Its been that way for well over 35 years, but has been hidden in that deep dark closet, always with the shroud that covers the actions while the Talking Head spits out rhetoric that sounds like pearls to the ears of the special interest groups.

  • Larry Brian Radka

    Check out my for the final solutions to the illegal immigration problems.

  • D Engineer

    We are loosing America in more ways than just along the Mexican border. This is very serious and threatening to the historical American way of life and everything that America was founded upon. It is much deeper than putting up a fence or removing the Ten Commandments. Immigrants – both legal and illegal are not becoming American in patrotisim and lifestyle – they are retaining their homeland cultural ways, languages, false religions, and habitual ways of life and are not assimilating into the United States as immigrants to Ferris Island once did just a couple of decades ago. They are treating America as an extension of their homeland and they hate America. Their goal is to take it over and change it. They just need to go home if they feel this way but that is not their plan. Right now one of America’s biggest threats (due to an absent “American” president) is the influx of Islamic immigrants that believe the Koran is true – they are a clear and present danger to all Christians, Jews, and all non-muslims. The Koran spells it out clearly how to treat so called “infidels” and do not be deceived by liberals and deceiving muslims that would have try to convince you that not all Islam has animosity against the West. We need to have an exodus in America – an expelling of all non – citizens – legal and illegal and re-establish and enforce immigration laws that once stood in this country that included learning English, learning the history of our founding fathers, and requiring all applicants to say the pledge allegiance to the American flag and our nation – that is one nation under God – Jehovah (Yehovah – Yehweh) God – the only true God.

    • 45caliber

      How do you take away the vitality of the American people? You encourage them to watch TV sports and sex to destroy their ruggedness. When even that starts to slide with men and women taking up exercising, you dilute the Americans by bringing in outsiders.

      In addition to the illegals coming from the South, we also bring in about 500,000 Vietnamese a year. While their parents were generally good people the newcomers are coming from refugee camps in Thialand. They are taught almost from birth that “when your number comes up you can go to America. We will give you an apartment, a car, a big entertainment center, and a monthly check.” They do, too. It’s called immediately putting them on welfare. Several cities in California have more Vietnamese on welfare than they do the original citizens of the town.

      The dilution of the citizens also allows some racism, particularly if it is fostered. The people are reluctant to accept people who talk another language, who like to be on welfare and get all the government ‘freebees”, and who are known to be active in various illegal gangs. So in an army – especially if it is a draft army – the military wouldn’t be the coesive group they have been and to a certain extent are today.

  • etcwa

    I am an American by choice,very proud of it, and LEGAL.All seems to be very hopeless,am afraid that the occupant of the White House will try to nullify our Constitution by Executive Order, just as Hitler did to the Weimar Constitution.(For our young people, who were denied History, the Weimar constitution was a replica of the US constitution in Germany, negotiated after WWI,ended with Hitler eliminating it by invoking article 48of the constitution suspending all liberties of constitutional protection. civil liberties eliminated were the SAME as those of our Bill of Rights)
    I do hope we can avoid blood shed , as war is hell for ALL
    Pray for our Republic, Pray that the Lord will be with us and keep us free. I am 85 and hope I can die free!!!

    • bp

      God bless you , etcwa! II Chronicles 7:14

  • Dorothy Cora Moore

    Bob, Sen. McCain has asked for 6,000 troops, which have just been approved my a Congressional Committee.

    During President Calderon’s visit to the United States, he talked about Mexico’s best and brightest leaving Mexico for opportunities in America. One can only imagine what these people, who now speak English and are educated and trained in many businesses and trades, could do for Mexico if they returned. It would be a blessing for Mexico . . . if their President only thought it through.

    I personally love Mexico, and especially its people – many Mexicans are kind and good-natured, and make good neighbors. However, no one should be rewarded for breaking our immigration laws – committing a crime by breaking into our country when we are not looking. They are not only overwhelming our available services, but also our educational institutions, housing, food banks and hospitals.

    With so many Americans out of work, and with so many of our jobs taken by people who have entered our country illegally, perhaps it is time to insist they go home. By getting serious about illegal immigration into our country, thousands of drug runners and human traffickers would be stopped at the same time.

    Many Mexican Nationals work in landscaping and the building trades, everything from painters to bricklayers. These are very good-paying jobs that Americans now need to feed their families and save their homes. Woman out of work would be grateful to be able to get work in our hotels.

    A recent letter in our local paper reminded us that:

    “During the Great Depression, Herbert Hoover deported all illegal aliens to make jobs available to citizens who desperately needed work.”

    “Harry Truman deported more than two million illegals after World War II to create jobs for returning veterans.”

    “And in 1954, Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican nationals so that American World War II and Korean War veterans could have jobs. It took two years, but they deported them!”

    President Obama’s good intentions, before being elected, about fixing our immigration woes hit close to home for me, in that I now live in Prescott, Arizona.

    Prescott was the territorial seat and first capital of Arizona (situated in west-central Arizona), a town of about 45,000 situated between 5,500-6,000 feet, sitting on the edge of a national forest with natural lakes. It is pristine here, and with our Courthouse Square surrounded by small shops, and old Victorian neighborhoods, Prescott looks very much like a small Midwestern town. As hard as it may be to believe, we have a terrible problem with illegal aliens here.

    Our Sheriff, Steve Waugh, within a 12-month period has arrested 1,200 illegal aliens discovered during traffic stops, or while committing crimes. In the past, he would call our federal immigration offices in Phoenix, however, ICE was either unable or unwilling to pick up the illegal aliens and process them.

    As the federal law currently stands in Arizona, our Sheriff is not able to process illegals, or deliver them to ICE in Phoenix. It is against the law for him to even drive them out of Yavapai County, because he only has jurisdiction in our county.

    You can imagine how frustrating it was for him, once our jail was overflowing, to have to release the illegal aliens by the hundreds into our community. If our federal agents (ICE) are truly overburdened, we must have our own state immigration laws so that our sheriffs and police officers can arrest and process illegal aliens who are breaking our laws – including our immigration laws. Arizona’s new immigration law mirrors, in every way, our federal laws. If the critics would only take the time to read SB 1070, they would know this.

    Mexicans, and others, come here in the dark of night crossing our wide-open borders, because everything is free. They do know that breaking into our home is illegal, however, they expect to be taken care of once they are successful in doing so. Having a child soon thereafter, assures them of an “anchor” – an anchor that will qualify them for free or reduced housing, free medical services, free food stamps, and a free education, etc. They are also starting up their own businesses and taking very good jobs away from Americans.

    Arizonans truly need America’s support. Will you help us by voicing your support?

    Dorothy Cora Moore


    GEEEEEZ, people! Ramone is not a Mexican, he conjugates his verbs, too well. He is just some jerk yankin’ your chain. Land mines? Are you kidding? The ruthless drug runners would just force peasants, women and children, at gun point to go first and clear the way. When it becomes a government priority, it will be stopped. The solution is political. Downsize the beauracracy, tax consumption instead of income, stop foriegn aid except for emergency relief and use the savings to employ highly trained, well armed, private forces to guard our borders, with drones, sensors, armoured vehicles, etc. We have a lot of well trained, out of work veterans, to answere the call. You high school Harry types, writing all this macho crap probably need a little more seasoning. Harm’s way is not for trash talkers, but I do admire the patriotic sentiment and fervor. Your heart is in the right place, so when you are old enough to vote be sure to vote against those Progressive Socialist and career polititions.
    God Bless Texas as we stand with Arizona,

    • 45caliber

      Hopefully we’ll have the same law here in Texas after the next legislative session that AZ has.

  • Steve

    This is a link to Arizona Governor Jan Brewers website where you can sign her petition showing you support her and Az. SB1070. This is a NATIONWIDE PETITION. You do not have to reside in Arizona to sign it. ALL YOUR FAMILY CAN SIGN IT FROM ONE COMPUTER,IP ADDRESS, OR EMAIL ADDY ETC. Please pass it on to your email list. She will use this petition for ammunition to show the usurper O’Liar and his minions in congress, that a MAJORITY of Americans support BORDER CONTROL!

    To: f.r.Sr.
    Ramon isn’t a jerk. I think he is just as conservative as we are, and is just taking a different tack in impersonating an illegal alien, and using sarcasm to try and fire up the apathetic… and well done too lol

  • Anthony

    Okay people -

    I read thru the first half of all these responses (count ‘em up), and after awhile, I got tired of the same old rhetoric where the Lefty’s resort to the only thing they have “left” (joke?) when they all get in a situation where everyone else is involved in a discussion of ISSUES.

    As always, the Lefty’s can never hold their ground when the rest of the folk stay focused on the issue and only include issue-related commentary as a part of that discussion. That’s something we’ve come to expect, and the Lefty’s usually never fail to deliver… it is not only “to be expected”… it is what it is, as they simply have nothing else to throw out there.

    BUT — Then, I see many of the Conservatives throwing the mud right back, as well. THIS IS, of course, simply “the Pot Calling The Kettle Black”… and seriously disappointing on many levels.

    I’ve stopped expecting adult-conversation on many of these Articles, because after about 40-50 postings, it simply disappears… kinda sad.

    Do I do it ? Once in a great while, you might see me throw a sentence or two of incredulousness towards the 4th grade level posting I just read…. BUT THEY ARE RARE. Remember my commentary on the Ben Franklin Quote Article?

    These things I am (for the most part) fairly certain, are the facts -

    FACT -
    Mexico now holding possession of American Soil is, by definition of the Constitution, considered to be an INVASION OF AMERICA…. especially if our local Police do not have the weaponry to force these invaders back to where they came from.

    FACT -
    We are being beseiged on at least two fronts, while the current POTUS is twiddlin’ away with the False Flag Operation known as: The BP OIL SPILL

    A) Hillary Clinton is ging around the Planet as we speak, signing armistice agreements, which contradict our own Constitution (told ya the real reason they needed ol’ Bill in the White House, was so Hillary could at least lay groundwork to be where she is today).

    In other words, our Government – those who control the puppet politicians / those we are never allowed to vote for, that is – is busy working to erradicate the effectiveness of the SECOND AMENDMENT – and in the very near future, you will see areas – LIKE ARIZONA – where U.S. citizens are suddenly being forced at MILITARY gunpoint, TO GIVE UP THEIR OWN WEAPONS … and YES, there will be people in the military who think this to be a righteous move – that’s how indoctrinated our ‘younger’ generations actually are (and will remain until the same expectations are suddenly made of them, as well)

    (B)The U.S. Government is also (has also been) working on the allowance of un-deterred/un-inspected Semi-wagon-trains being given free passage out of Mexico straight to Kansas City, unhampered in any way. [READ THIS AGAIN]

    I have watched two documentaries, now, that report this fact and our own CBS, NBC nor ABC or CNN will report a thing on it. If no one is inspecting the loads, then how do we know what they are transporting? I’d seriously like to hear a Lefty or two explain this… but, then we ARE talking issues here…. so, I’ll wait……..

    C)One peson posted a comment about seeing large caches of weapons just across the border inside Mexico (as if Santa Ana was about to strike the Alamo all over again). I would offer that this is straight in line with the Points A & B, is it not?

    As it stands now, Schwarzenegger and the Governor of AZ (both) have a situation ready to explode and I have a pretty solid feeling that Aahnold is big time ready to assist with the powder keg “blowing up” as a perfect FALSE FLAG, which is seriously even better than 911 – if you are a fascist, then such an outlook on such an event really does make perfect sense.

    Remember – we have been setup with a Supreme Court Judge who fully supports LA RAZA (do we not?). Along with that, we now have another Supreme Court Judge who is specifically anti-military (I’m betting it’s unless those same military are out to tie the hands of free americans).

    I have a high regard for John Roberts – he is the least hamiltonian of anyone sitting on SCOTUS, as we speak. The rest are all true-blue Alexander Hamilton idolators who seriously think States Rights don’t matter in any way, shape, or form. Only the FEDERAL counts, and what is it exactly that the FEDERAL is doing about this situation in the right here & now?

    FOLKS – we are being setup, like a bad made for sci-fi channel movie.

    1. You have the Press against you (except here on the web, for now at least)
    2. You have your own President against you (many of you here DID vote for him)
    3. You have those that control the money, are against you, and are more than likely the real culprits of all the distracting events that are going on in and around this Country today.
    4. If the people who control your currency ARE AGAINST YOU, where do think the greedy politicians stand on this issue? Next time they speak out, either shut your eyes and listen, or blacken your TV screen to listen to them rhetoric-away. See how you feel after that.

    Item #4, is something I point out (being my age) as I remember it being discussed in my house how those that listened to the Kennedy/Nixon Debates had two different takes on how they felt afterwards.
    A) those that watched it on TV ‘swooned’ at the tanned, younger guy
    B) those that could only listen on the radio, had no interference with how their eyes might actually be hearing one thing and letting it block what their own ears were really hearing.

    The A crowd thought Kennedy won the debate, hands down.
    The B crowd were certain that Nixon won the debate, and then some!

    Later on, with presidential actions such as Executive Order 11110, we finally found out that JFK seriously WAS the real deal when it came to Presidents who had every intention of KEEPING their Oath of Office. I highly doubt that Nixon would have ever had the balls to write up an Executive order 11110. He was gutsy, but not THAT gutsy. On the other hand, Nixon did feel that Castro deserved a CIA hit in the biggest way… and I cannot disagree with a marxo-communist having his day in court, as it were.

    If Nixon (or Kennedy, for that matter) were in Office today – they both would take offense at Mexico standing on American Soil as if it now belongs solely to Mexico.

    WHAT IRRITATES ME, AND SHOULD IRRITATE YOU TO THE CORE – is how we’re hearing practically no one in Congress speak to this issue. At least I haven’t on NPR radio, which I listen to every day going to work. They speak of arab issues in arab countries.. but they do not discuss Arizona and Mexico having grabbed some of her Land.

    How many hear have called your Congress-people or your Senators, to find out what THEY intend to do about it ??

    IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGE – YOU MUST start at the grassroots level.


    That means, you GET INVOLVED, even if it seems you don’t have time.

    • Anthony

      My apoligies to the last three posters before mine –
      Dorothy Cora Moore / / Steve

      It took me quite some time to write my posting, so you were uploaded while I was typin away… I will follow those bread crumbs, Dorothy and Steve.

    • TIME

      Anthony, A very strong post thanks.

  • Barb AZ

    This is the truth! There are four or five law enforcement and government agencies that will not go into these areas. Border Patrol, Pinal County Sheriff, BLM, US Marshals office, Arizona Game and Fish, and even local law enforcement will not go into the area just south of here near Casa Grande. It’s a FACT. WE NEED HELP!

    • FreedomFighter

      All we need do is send in a few hundred troops. Alas, ObamaCommies will not allow it.

      Vote them out.


      • 45caliber

        And if anyone else does go in there to stop them, our own people would be all over them.

  • http://mog7@cox.net06042CT Muriel P. Goyette

    Almost all the above letters were excellent and insightful. The present situation is somewhat similar to Germany during WWII,tho we do not know the where top military stand, every single American you talk to recognizes that neither the president, nor Congress, nor Homeland Security has honored their oaths to defend and protect the Constitution of U.S.A. Homeland Security does more damage than good. I don’t know of one bit of good that dept has done. Without Congress doing their job of representing the will of the people, and The Supreme Court refusing to handle the eligibility quesiton, which I believe would put Obama out of office pronto, it seems that who is called The Manchurian President and the transformed democratic party are running amuck, and daring the citizens of America to start a revolution, for which this president has already prepared with foreign troops to the ready against America. Our loyal and hard working U.S. Military are being nothing but sucker-punched in the battles in Afghanistan and Iraq. Arizona needs the Military to keep the Mexicans from actually taking 80 miles of its border and the president sits on his hands? When the homeland is in such dire need, the responsibility of the U.S. Military is to abandon foreign posts and come and defend the country of the United States of America. It doesn’t look like America is going to last until November when we can sock it em thru our vote. We don’t ask the generals to go it alone the way the German generals tried to do and unfortunately, failed. Bring the entirety of American Military to step in and take over because it looks seriously that America is going down for the count.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Janice, Alabama native

    As I’ve posted previously: Send all the illegals to D. C. You can bet your sweet bippie there will be an instant deportation to country of origin.

    • 45caliber

      Particularly after they mug a Congressman or two. Several years ago a Dem Congressman was mugged in the hall right outside his office door. The next day he was willing to make mugging a capital offence complete with the death penalty.

  • Rick
  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    I’m really sick of this damn administration. The government has been to many countries protecting their borders and won’t protect ours.
    Can you figure this out? I can, they want amnesty to all these illegal mexicans, so they can sign them up as dumocrats and then can take control of our lives. This is not what the consitution is about.
    Vote them all out.

  • Airangel

    The argument that Southwest used to be Mexican territory is true, but it has been part of the United States for 162 years.

    Following the Mexican War (1846-1848), the United States annexed one-third of Mexico’s territory. If you count Texas, whose admission to the union in 1845 largely precipitated the war, we took well over half of Mexico. That would include Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, and Utah. So who holds title to any part of this planet we humans live on for a spell, this place we call home?

    To start with the American Southwest, let’s assume for the moment that the irredentists are right and that it should be ceded to Mexico. What gives the Mexican government a claim to this portion of the earth? This was Mexico for a mere 27 years — just a single generation.

    Take, for another example, the conquest of Mexico. How did Hernán Cortés manage to vanquish Tenochtitlán, a city of 200,000 and an empire of several millions, with just a few hundred men? There are many reasons, but an important one is that several of the tribes subjugated by the Aztec allied with Cortés. Why would they do that? The Aztec yoke was not light, and their way of war was not to kill in battle, but to capture their enemies alive and haul them back to the pyramids, where priests dressed in capes of human leather cut open their victims’ breasts and tore out their still-beating hearts — sacrifices carried out by the tens of thousands. By the way, the Aztecs did not learn that practice from Europeans, either. Such was the idyllic paradise of the New World before the advent of the white man (see Victor Davis Hanson, Carnage and Culture [2001]).

    But let’s grant, for argument’s sake, the assertion that the U.S. should cede the Southwest to Mexico. If that is the case, then we should cede Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia, and the other original colonies to England, and all of us should migrate to our home countries. In my case, that would be England, with one leg going to Germany. But the English, mostly descending from the Germanic tribes of Angles, Saxons, and Jutes, should cede England to the Celts and return to Denmark and Germany. The Celts, in turn, would also have to retire to the Continent, relinquishing the British Isles to the Picts and the Scots, if any could be found. And the other descendants of the Germanic tribes (the Dutch, Belgians, French, Germans, Austrians, Danes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Swedes) should return to the Caucasus or Central Asia or wherever they originated. Eventually we should all have to return to east Africa…more from

  • Jimmysan

    On an entirely different note, how’s about a collective hurrah from out in cyber space for Jan Brewer for Prez, Sarah Palin for VP in 2012!! I feel very strongly these 2 gals could do a better job of running this country as they appear to have a greater set of ‘nads than does their male counterparts. What say you??

    • chuck b


      no way!! sarah palin is the gal. jans ok but sarah’s better by far.
      we don’t need two women running the country, that’s obscene. two women in the same house are you kidding!!

      • Jimmysan

        Chuck b, which would you prefer, the 2 gals that I just gave you or how about the likes of biden w/pelosi as his back-up?? And as a kicker how about that faggot ass barney frank as maybe speaker of the house. What a nightmare that could be, huh??

  • Euskalherria

    It is quite telling that “more prayer mats are found than anything”. I do not believe that Roman Catholics or other Christians employ prayer mats – but Muslims do!

    We have been warned that the Mexican border will be a prime access means for Islamic terrorists. They blend in quite well with Mexicans, and by learning some Spanish and assuming Spanish names they enhance their chances of easily slipping into this country.

  • http://gmail i41

    .45, when we start removing trash, first the terrorists, start with the stump and stable treatment, if the muslim freaks will not leave peacefully, then start tagging and tying. Use their own muslim beleif in conversion, change or die. In that case, cut a tree to crotch higth, staple their gonads to the tree stump, light it on fire, and leave a hammer and a butter knife, it is their choose. The bastards don’t seem to have trouble killing their wives, or daughters at a moment whim. For betrayers of the USA, or terrorists that will not give up infor on other friends, or talk about their plans to destroy the USA, dig a 8′ long, 5′ wide, and 5′ deep pit, use the apache motavational talk, place at least 100 rattlesnakes in the pit, take the night shirt or baggy pants off of the offender. Tie a rope to their hands and another rope to their feet. Lower said terrorist horizontally over the pit, and swing back and forth, while slowly lowering with, a body part exposed for the snakes to strike at. Usually truth is told and terrorist will not have any sinus problems, from water boarding. I personally think the plains indians had the best method, lay the inquestition individual face down, his feet will be tied to belt loops after first taking off their foot ware. A green 2″ branch is used to slap the arches for at least 10 minutes intervals, then ask for the details of attack plans. Ususlly time for holding out was about2-6 hrs, in a day or two they will be walking around again. Since edyee is such a socialist communist, welfare rat, holding Sarah’s picture, might motivate a lot of lazy asses! Use the same on drug mules, and just the snakes for drug lords and traitors.

    • chuck b


      i’ll pay any price for a ticket to that show, even pay eddy’s way in. lol

      • eddie47d

        Heck, I’d be in the front row watching you two fools. That’s like getting two asses for the price of one.

  • S. Storm

    If the Sheriff and police forces need help, why not engage the assistance of the citizens. I’m sure they are well armed down there and it shouldn’t be too dificult to find some competant volunteers to train, drill and then go get them.

    • JC

      Yep! That’s the thing about people who hunt…they usually have a selection of high powered rifles that hit “at distance”.

  • Jauharah

    Anyone that believes that racism and bigotry are finally dead in the US is mistaken. One need only read the posts here to know that racism and bigotry are alive and well and in fact, thriving.

    All the Obama haters/bashers need to stop being sore losers already. Obama was elected by the people; unlike Bush who, with the help of others, manipulated the system and stole the election – twice. His thanks to the people were: a supposed attack on US soil (still can’t be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Muslims were responsible for any of it); two unjust wars that we know of and possibly more we don’t know about; authorized rendition and torture; a screwed up economy; increased hatred of Americans; unjust attacks and killing of Muslims both here and abroad; illegal wiretaps on American citizens and residents along with illegal tracking, monitoring and storage of all types of records including library and internet usage records; an erosion of civil rights/liberties; needless deaths and suffering of those impacted by Katrina who are still trying to rebuild their lives. These are just a few of the things we are painfully aware of.

    Yet all people can find to do is whine about Obama – the biracial man that is now President and oh yeah, “too many” non-Whites in this country (guess how the Native Americans feel; they’ve wanted the White man off their land for quite some time now0.

    • Jim H.

      Jauharah, These people are here breaking the law. If a person is breaking the law they should be arrested no matter what their race is. Just because the people breaking the law aren’t white doesn’t make it racist to try and stop it.

    • Convet

      November moron?

    • http://personalliberty rob

      AGAIN>>>>>>>> LEGAL vs. ILLEGAL…..when you can’t argue a point, you hide behind irrelevant statements…This isn’t about race, there are many “IILEGALS” of many races….living free off the working classes. Our country is going broke and the “FREELOADERS” are living off the “LEGALS”..

  • Montana

    The Tea Bag Party are just “haters not debaters” or as others have dubbed them “screamers not dreamers”, with their failed attempts at stopping Healthcare reform, they say they respect the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence but they do not mind passing laws, through weak Governors (no one voted for this crazy) who only cares about getting elected Governor, on the backs of undocumented workers, that will not pass Constitution muster.

    Brewer signed into law;

    1. S.B. 1070,
    2. No permit conceal weapons law,
    3. The famous Birthers law,
    4. Banning Ethnic studies law,

    5. Could she be behind the Mural in Prescott, Arizona, ordered to be whiten,
    6. On deck to pass, no citizenship to babies born to undocumented workers,

    7. If she can read she should look up Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago (which was un-constitution and failed when legally challenged),
    8. The boycotted Martin Luther King Day, what idiots don’t want another holiday? Yes, you guessed it Arizona.

    Well Arizona, you can boycott new holidays and keep passing crazy laws and the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a court of law and continue to add cities to our Boycott of your state.

    I real cannot believe anything that comes out of Brewer’s mouth, in an interview she first said her father had died in Germany fighting the Nazi in World War II (war ended 1945) but of course we find out the truth that father was never in Germany and died in California in 1955. But we are suppose to believe everything else she says, right! No one voted for you for Governor, yet you keep listening to the tiny brains of the crazies and signing into law everything that comes into their feeble minds, it only make you look dumb, stupid or racist, or maybe all three.

    As for the Tea Bag Party, their phony patriotism is sickening; they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, energy (remember Cheney’s secret meetings with oil companies where loosening regulation and oversight were sealed), climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions).

    The Birthers and the Tea Bag party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “Internet facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that is like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that. Yee Haw!

    • Anthony

      I can tell by your post….

      If OBAMA was a Republican… you’d be a Birther!

    • Jim H.

      Montana, Those TEA BAG people need to be put in their place. Maybe us TEA PARTY people could do just that. I doubt you are from Montana, the people I know from there are smart. Every thing you ranted is just a regurgitation of the DNC propaganda with no original thought at all. Non-Catholics shouldn’t make comments on something they know nothing about. I noticed knowing nothing about a topic doesn’t seem to stop you though.

    • Convet


    • JC

      Somebody in Montana needs to slap some sense into you.

  • Anthony

    Jauharah -

    How about you quit hiding behind the race card. It’s obvious by your post, that you are little schooled in civic duty, and what that really means.

    If anyone here, tries to pretend or demonstrate color bias, or ethnic bias.. the rest of us (here) will very quickly put a stop to it and demand that Bob Livingston also BAN that person.

    Do you have any other approach to joining this discussion, or are rascism accusations your only weapon?

    Personally, I could care less what a man’s skin color, hair color, might be; let alone what his job is, or his family name, where he comes from, what he’s done in his life – as long as it’s not criminal – it’s all the same to me.

    Martin Luther King Jr was right – a man is defined by his actions, not his skin color. In other words – his character!

    MLK, Jr spent a great deal of time “not using the race card”…
    How about you attempt to do the same, as opposed to making excuses.

    ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO THE U.S. – is a crime. Plain & simple!
    I wish they would take it one step farther – try them as Spies!

  • Anthony


    Why is it, that the mexicans can’t just band together and commit their own Revolution – to free their own Country from the oppression they are running away from ????

    Anyone want to answer this question?

    We scream about how ILLEGAL it is for them to cross our borders…
    Yet, no one wants to walk backwards and explore the WHY of it all.

    It is my understanding, that in Mexico (correct me if find errors) the mexican people have what’s called a Patrician Class (the rich) who only care about keeping themselves wealthy. Sound familiar?

    Therefore, anyone else, who isn’t born into Mexican Wealth, seriously have no chance in creation of their own wealth – that’s how rigged their Society is. I would go so far as to say the Drug Lords are also a tool of the Mexican Weathly. I cannot prove it. But, let’s face it, they have their own Military, which could be funded as well as any you will ever see – they do have alot of wealth in Mexico – our own Media just doesn’t spend too much time reviewing it. Therefore, the Drug Lords would just be snipered into oblivion if it suited the Patrician Class. Spock Logical, no?

    What we have been witnessing for the last two Presidents in Mexico is a growing attempt of the Drug Lords, to unseat the Patrician Class in that Country. Yet, just the same, the regular folks aren’t cowards, and they could achieve something worthwhile if it wasn’t for the weaker ones who would rather just play snitch on the freedom fighters.

    It’s the same in any oppressed Country – even our own, as we are discussing right here on Bob’s website.

    So – how far off am I, folks? And, isn’t this really one of the bottom lines when it comes to their people trying to find refuge?

    I just wish they’d do it like those that came in at Staten Island.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Some one that spent time in Mexico working posted here that they crack down very hard on protesting against their own government. They do protest outside the American embassy against America as that is allowed. I am not sure it is true but it would not surprise me if it was true.

    • El Vato

      This is true, in Mexico “if you read one of my previous posts” the Government has lost control over to the Drug Lords “ZETAS”. The situation is so bad that regular people are being kidnapped and killed for ransom. It become a free for all where even local gangs are acting as ZETAs and kidnapping people of any status. The Government, police, and Federales are also in on the scheme. Mexico has a out of control problem the only way out is an up rise by the people. I speak to people who are treid of the situation but they voice their opinions they usually are black balled by the local governement or killed in ruthless manner. People are not allowed to own guns therefore they have no way of fighting back. People come here for freedom and prosperity unfortunately the only way in is ilegally because this is what is offered by the drug cartel who controls human trafficking. If you try to come across legally the Mexican government makes it impossible. People fill out applications and pay up front and never get called so they find other aveneus with results “ilegally”. Mexican who are protesting here are the radicals, who don’t have any educations just look at the videos all you see is gang signs. They called themselves Mexican but really are the mexican progressives born here in the USA. Most of these people are the ones who apply follow La RAZA, Lulac and who are what Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton are to the black community. They are just looking for votes and making money but meanwhile they use these circumstances to take advantage.
      Mexico is being driven by fear and the situation is getting worse and the Mexican media will not report on this for fear of their lives. This is why we must push for controlling our borders before it gets worse. I believe we should have custom office where people can apply for work and be legal but would have to be controlled at our end.
      I was in Arizona and asked one of the protestors we should do this in Mexico his reply ” I have nothing to do with Mexico i was born here” ??? makes you wonder SEIU, ACORN Obama followers.

  • hundabuxt

    Chuck B

    I’m back! Been baned but I’m here nevertheless. Where’s my helecopter? Can take care of business. USMC trained well.

  • chuck b


    it seems like one of my di’s were sea going bell hops.
    you may have to use some of that training before this is all over. i can see much trouble brewing on the horizon.
    we may have to dig up a copter for you. glad to see you back.

  • chuck b


    seems like some of my di’s

  • Pat Tremain

    I think we need to forget about Obama and everyone else at the top, and get ourselves down to Arizona, see the state, buy a T-shirt with a flag on it, buy a flag to fly on your car like those stupid football and basketball fans do, and spend some money in the state. Go see it! From the London Bridge/Colorado River to the Grand Canyon, to the Apaches over near New Mexico, and down to Nogales — go and see it, see what is happeing, and then come back to your home computer armed with the facts. Take a diary and write down what you see! WE need your first-hand experience. Write what you see and hear. Talk to people there. Get out there!!!!!! By the way, I live in California, not Arizona, and am going over there this weekend. Get a nice Navaho bracelet, a blanket, a dream-catcher, and find a great restaurant. Enjoy, but see the reality. Talk to people.

  • http://thisone Dave

    OBUMA and Congress OBVIOUSLY don’t give a RATS ASS about the Constitution. We give BILLIONS away every DAMNED year in foreign aid. We have troops ALL OVER the world where they DO NOT BELONG. At LEAST one half of what the Fed. Gov. does is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WE have troops in Iraque and Afganistan fighting a war that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL (Congress NEVER declared war). It’s also a war we can simply NEVER WIN. What’s happening over there is called a CIVIL WAR. THEY (Sunis, Shiites, Kerds), THEY have to fight it out or just decide to quit shooting and make peace. The point IS, it’s THEIR damned war. We need to BUTT out and BRING our troops home. PERIOD!!!!!!!! Obama AND CONGRESS should BRING them home and put them on OUR BORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!! If that doesn’t happen, IMPEACH Obama, and VOTE OUT OF OFFICE EVERY member of Congress who doesn’t support doing this!!!!!!!!!

  • chuck b


    you have it right. this war in afghanistan is just another vietnam and barry isn’t interested in winning, even if we win we lose. just another welfare case.

    we should bring our troops home and not sacrifice another young man for absolutely nothing. send the congress and barry soetoro to afghanistan and let them pacify the taliban. telling them to remember the rules of engagement. let waxman, turncoat kerry and leahy take the point. i would bet the war would be called off over night.

  • Stephen Russell

    Now can we go in Armed, have bounty for sniper kills of ‘coyotes’.
    Mine the border with homemade mines etc.
    Rig barbed wire.
    Mexican War 2 has Begun.
    It began when Bush jailed those 2 BP agents.
    Lock & Load.
    Full Auto mode
    Check IR scope.
    Silencer Check.
    Militia Time.
    Godbless AZ.

  • Victor W Carroll

    Why do people refer to the boss of the the muslim pig-family infesting the White House as “Mr”, “President”, “O’bama”—(his changed name…real name is Barry Saetoro), “Sir”, when this no-diploma,no birth certificate, worthless charlatan needs to be escorted from the White House handcuffed? Does anyone anywhere have the guts to fight,
    ….I’m calling the Senator of my state tomorrow recommending that our own military units invade this refuge and use the [inappropriate comment removed]

  • Pat Tremain

    I have friends who live in Arivaca, which is about 20 miles from the Buenas Aires Wildlife Preserve. If you possibly can, go visit Arivaca and see firsthand what this part of Arizona looks like (there is food, water, gas and probably lodging) in Arivaca. This is the ‘true Arizona’, away from the big cities, though it is probably about 50 – 60 miles south of Tucson. Go over there and see what real America looks like, under seige. I think Arivaca is still safe for travel; it parallels the major highway to Nogales. I’m going to try to get over there soon, with my friend whose sister lives there. Great country, you will love it! Real outdoor America. Stop sitting at home, cussing and fussing at your computer and get out to see things first hand. Obama or Congress can’t stop you from doing that. DO NOT take a gun or even a knife, even though the ranchers carry both in case of rattlesnakes attacking their livestock, etc.

    • JC

      Pat Tremain says:

      “DO NOT take a gun or even a knife, even though the ranchers carry both in case of rattlesnakes attacking their livestock, etc.”

      Why not?

  • Void1972

    This link will open a new world of information on our current world affairs. Please read it and learn how all religion has been corrupted by powers against God and humanity.

  • Jacque

    What we need to do is get rid of the bumbs, then place them with real americans. Americans that will not stand for this to happen.

  • JC

    Kyl: Obama Uses Border Insecurity to Push Immigration Plan
    Monday, 21 Jun 2010 01:53 PM Article Font Size

    The Obama administration is using the increasing insecurity of the Mexican border to push through its own agenda on immigration, according to Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl.

    In a video clip posted on YouTube showing the senator speaking to a local Tea Party crowd on Friday, Kyl aid the president told him during a one-on-one meeting in the Oval Office that he was concerned he wouldn’t win GOP support on immigration legislation if he took care of border security first.

    Story continues below.

  • Convet

    The Gang That Can’t Shoot Straight. Hooked on dope.

  • Robert Lincoln

    Heard a rumor that the Military is going to move the Yuma,AZ bombing range to that area that is closed to the public. Sounds like a good idea to me.

  • Void1972

    I read this interesting fact on this site a couple of years ago…

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.
    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.
    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.
    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million Dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget.
    He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility if not treason. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.
    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red ..
    If the Army &Marines are in IRAQ, it’s because they want them in
    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.
    There are no insoluble government problems.
    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.
    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
    Preserve the Constitution of the United States of America!

    Those 545 people and they alone, are responsible.
    And should be held accountable! When regular citizens break the law, they go to jail, as should all of those elected officials who have sold America and our people to a Communist nation.
    Every elected official who has been part of this scheme to destroy America must be held accountable.
    The list is long, but it’s not too late to bring them to justice. Any elected official past and present that has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations should be brought to trial for treason!
    Every member of the CFR is responsible for our current crisis, and that is where our battle begins.

    • JC

      Well put!

  • Denniso

    I wonder, Mr Livingston…the Waste Isolation Pilot Project in NM, in which we are burying nuclear waste from around the country will have signs posted in several languages w/ danger symbols that we hope people 10,000 yrs in the future will be able to understand; are we then ceding those tens of thousands of acres of our land to our technology gods? The thousands of streets and neighborhoods around the country that are too dangerous for ‘civilized’ Americans to travel into or live in, aren’t we ceding those areas and the millions of people there to our violent culture?

    Because the gov’t puts up signs warning us about dangerous areas to travel in does not mean we are ceding our country to Mexico.

    • JeffH

      …my heart just bleeds for those that can’t read…

    • Jim H.

      Denniso, I didn’t understand your comparison of warning signs around a toxic area and warning signs warning of illegals being a threat to law abiding citizens. Are people from another country coming in and illegally dumping hazardous waste in a wildlife preserve? I agree the authority’s should be patrolling the dangerous neighborhoods and arresting the criminals. They don’t put up signs warning us of dangerous neighborhoods though.

      • Denniso

        I’m saying that we have many places we shouldn’t go if we are concerned for our safety…does Bob Livingston complain that we have ceded those places to violence or a dangerous culture? Have you ever seen the signs along some highways near prisons that warn you not to stop or pick up hitchhikers? Isn’t that ceding our freedom to the prison culture in our country?

        Also, the warning signs in AZ about illegal activity does not say we can’t go there,only to be careful. Is there any difference between that and our knowing that we should stay out of the many ghettos and slums if we value our life or car? The only difference is the issue of
        who may be harming you,illegals or legals…does that really matter?

        • Jim H.

          Hi Denniso, I see what you’re saying. The thing that burns me is the authorities should be enforcing the laws in the bad neighborhoods and the wildlife refuge. Law abiding citizens should be protected while visiting our public lands or at home in their neighborhood. We shouldn’t concede to the criminals because it my be more difficult to enforce the law in some areas than others.When legal conceal carry permit holders were aloud to carry in the National Parks, some people had a fit. We have armed thugs taking over a federal area and no one does anything about it. The thugs are a threat to our public safety. To answer your last question if someone is harming me, they are doing something illegal, so they’re all illegal. I don’t want to be harmed by either one.

  • Dale

    Short of sending a human fence of U.S. military down to
    the Mexican border ( or a deputized civilian force if
    necessary ), armed to the teeth to shoot on sight, what else
    can we do? Can we somehow move the Grand Canyon down to the
    southern U.S. border ( or use TONS of explosives to make a
    NEW grand canyon ) to keep ILLEGALS of Mexican and Middle
    Eastern descent OUT?!? If Middle Eastern terrorists keep
    streaming across our porous southern borders and end up killing
    hundreds or thousands of innocent U.S. citizens, then I would
    be in full support of erecting a public gallows in D.C..

    I will be one of the first in line to volunteer to pull the lever
    that puts an end to the traitors of this country in that district
    of incompetence. I am not a violent person and would discourage
    any use of violence to oust all of the bureaucrats and morons
    currently running this country ( into the ground ). But I don’t
    know how much more this once wonderful country can take.

    Is it going to take a TOTAL economic and MORAL collapse of this
    country before we ALL wake up to the fact that deviants and despots
    are in our nations capitol? Let’s hope that prayer and November
    will answer that question.

  • Dale

    BTW…why haven’t U.S. based animal and ecology welfare groups raised a ruckus about armed paramilitary types ( from ANOTHER COUNTRY )
    taking control of a portion of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge? Can we assume that these ILLEGAL military types are leaving
    the “REFUGE” in it’s pristine form? Are they ordering out for pizza
    ( or tacos ) and cleaning up their messes? Or worse yet. Are they
    living off of the land and hunting and killing the wildlife in their
    refuge for food? How many endangered animals and plants are in that
    refuge that are even MORE endangered NOW?

    “It was closed in October 2006, due to human safety concerns, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.” What about the
    safety of the animals/food Mr. Park Ranger? If any animals become
    extinct due to Mexican and or Middle Eastern paramilitary guerrillas
    in this United States Wildlife Refuge (what would Jane Goodall say?),
    then I will PERSONALLY SUE the U.S. government on behalf of these
    animals they ALLOWED to be killed. I knew Obama hated animals!
    Especially white animals.

  • Larry Talley

    What do we do? As a voter, there’s nothing to vote on. As a citizen, there’s no way to defend our soil without being arrested for doing so. We sit in our livingrooms, watching this crap unfold and it feels like there is not a thing we can do about it. Politicians talk, accuse, lie, promise, etc. This is what happens when you live in a Communist country.

    • http://personalliberty rob

      You ask these questions BUT, tell me, Have YOU stepped and directed these issues to the candidates or your elected officials??….You have to put their feet to the fire…..MAKE THEM TALK….you deserve to KNOW where they stand! Then see if their ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THEAN WORDS. “WE the PEOPLE” be heard, “WE the PEOPLE” be seen. “WE” have a choice…

    • El Vato

      Its attitudes like this that have put us where we are now. There is so much we can do start by calling your local officials, Congressmen, and Washington. Let them know how you feel, “REMEMBER they work for us”, we don’t work for them. Jion townhall meetings, emails, just voice your opinion. They all need to be voted out of Washington, we need to push for short term congressmen.
      November is right around the corner start by researching canidates, forget political preferances vote for moral values, there past credentials, what are their beliefs. You will certainly start realizing which ones are bullshit and lies.

      Lets join forces and make America what it should be land of apportunity and Freedom for everyone!!!!

      • eddy james

        the problem is that they don’t work, they just collect pay checks and wait to retire. And all the while try to deprive us of more money and freedom.Arizona needs to put a bounty on illegals $5 would do, and you would see a surge of veterans to Arizona to take advantage and clear the illegals out.

  • JC

    Fremont Nebraska votes to banish illegal aliens.

    • eddie47d

      That’s more cheap action to make ourselves feel good. Your just shooting yourself in the foot. Deport all the immigrants and then try and depend on Americans doing the jobs they haven’t done in years. Are you going to go out into the fields and work at the chicken farms? We’ll see? Either the price of groceries will skyrocket or most Americans will starve. Good luck at the grocery store when it happens.

      • eddy james

        in the early 1970s I drove a truck, and pick up loads from chicken farms, and all there were were Americans working there and that was in Txas , Mississippi, and Arkansas. Eggs and chickens both were cheaper then

    • JC

      It’s time to clean house. It can’t possibly be any worse than the crime and ignorance we put up with now.

  • Albert De Roo

    The administration is now trying to convience American Citizens that the crime rate is dowm in four cities in Arizona on the border of Mexico. This is trying to make people ignorant to the fact that the drugs are pouring into the US and filtering into our major cities and causing murder, robbery, burglaries, rapes and on and on. Read the book by Roberto Escobar showing the life of Pablo Escobar who before his death was classified as the seventh riches man in the world as he controled the greatest amount of drugs shipped into the US tghrough our flimsey garded borders.

    • eddie47d

      I seldom trust anyone who makes millions. Very few deserve it and few really earned it. Escobar is an even sorrier side of the wealthy.

  • Chief_Cabioch

    The President swears an oath to “Uphold and defend the US Constitution”, these should be grounds for Impeachment and they should Start as soon as the Arizona Case is won by Arizona, it is Time we confront the Left wing Liberal Progressives who in fact are in a Minority in the US, and those in Power currently need a good dound message they Shall not forget in Nov.

  • Gary Wise

    I know this is exactly what Obama wants but I can predict that if a no amnesty and cleanup of illegals in America does not happen so the people of AZ and other border states will begin to take matters in their own hands and gunfire will be heard along these states borders. Mark my word, it will happen! America is through with the amnesty crowd and the Mexicans are trying to openly take back America as their right to own it! Just keep doing what you are now and this will cause the deaths of many Ameicans and will be on Obama. He is inciting violence!

  • Mona

    I totally support Arizona and think that every state should back them. They are tired of these criminals taking over. It doesn’t seem to bother Obama or any of the other incompetent people in this horrible Administration. I wonder how these people that are criticizing Arizona would feel if it was any of their relatives that had been killed by these criminals.
    I don’t see how this country can survive another two and a half years of these inept, incompetent people running things. What will it take for enough people to see that Obama needs to be impeached and all of the Progressives he has appointed to go with him? If he is so smart, then why is he making so many stupid decisions? McChrystal is a hero for sacrificing his career to let people know how bad Obama is doing.

  • hundabuxt

    Chuck B

    Where’s my helecopter, weapons, armor and Suburban?

  • Richard

    According to their mayor, the Tuscon area police department makes approximately 1500 arrests of illegals per day on ordinary charges. How many criminals does it take before you acknowledge that your city is under siege?

  • Barney

    Bring home the troops put them on the border

  • hundabuxt

    I agree we should bring home the troops. Our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan appear to be heading toward an expensive stalemate at best. I read today that we’re suppying millions in bribes for safe passage of the trucks that bring goods to our bases. Those millions appear to be going to the very enemy we’re fighting. We’re financing the opposition. These countries and people are not worth dying for. History has demonstrated that. Our best efforts were manifested in the excellent groups of excellent specialized troops who went in initially to fight the Taliban, which they did successfully using remarkably few troops and enlisting the indigenous opposition for help. They did it right. Now we’re spending billions in these countries trying to bring them out of an anachronistic society, which is fractionalized by tribal differences and always will be. They will never be a democracy no matter how much money we spend. The American methodology seems to be to smother all problems with heaps of cash and perhaps the problems will go away. We’re being shaken down by a people who don’t have the apparent will to take control of their own destiny. In Viet Nam we threw billions of dollars at problems there trying to get a recalcitrant and corrupt people to gather the will to control their destiny and it didn’t work. You cannot purchase the will to fight against an enemy willing to sacrifice anything to win. Viet Nam now is like a bucket of water you splash your hand in making all kinds of commotion. Take your hand out and in short order the water settles and its as though you were never there. We’re going to exhaust ourselves in places that will absorb every dollar we’re willing to dump into the effort and in the end the results will be the same. The English should know better. They tried it in India, Afganistan, America, Palistine and many other 3rd world countries and what was Great Britian became just Britian. I believe in taking care of your own. Spend the money making America great again investing in technologies that are cutting edge and putting Americans to work. Rebuild our great wealth and industries. Strengthen our borders, maintain a cutting edge military at home and close most of the bases abroad except for Guam, Deigo Garcia and perhaps England. Its ironic we’re being invaded by a forign country while our military is trying to protect as many as 160 forign countries with our bases spread throughout the world. I’m absolutly not against fighting. But take care of business quickly and decisivly and haul ass. Leave other countries with self determiniation while helping out some but put America first. The world will never love us. They only love our money.

  • chuck b


    exactly right.!!

  • Robert Lewis Staecker

    this is an act of war, an invasion, these people need to be eliminated. Call in the military and use what ever works. Send them back to Mexico one way or another.

  • blyker

    oh, how gullible we are to propaganda. wasn’t it propaganda that fueled the third reich and the rwanda genocide?

    • JC

      That and gun control.

  • kilrntex

    I didn’t think it was possible for dennisobama to get any more pissignorant than he already was, but libbots can reach new lows, and believe me, they are making history every day. I plan to take my family to Arizona this summer to enjoy the fresh air that idiots from LA and SF aren’t polluting. I’ll never go to Californicate again, but I do thank them for clearing some of the trash out of Arizona.

    • cactus

      I do not see how a lower low than a Kenyen primate for president can be achieved. I moved to Arizona from Kalifornistan because it acknowledges the 2nd Amendment (and the people there understand a good reason for guns is for protection against government tyranny), and it is nullifying unconstitutional federal laws.

  • Kitadog

    So everyone can complain and have all of your stupid theories, AIDS selected not elected, Jeasus Saves.

    BFD kiddies, nothing is going to change and whining about it on the internet won’t change anything. We are all just the pawns in whatever the game is. Re-read “1984″ and forget about it and just enjoy the time that you have left.

  • Elizabeth Garstecki

    I am in a totally agree’able state after reading the above statements
    they are some of the best I’ve read in a long time now here is my opinion on the subject.These mexicans have invaded our soil armed to the teeth killing their way through Arizona and that in itself constitutes war. But we have a knuckle head in the oval office that has never been in his office chair long enough to warm the seat.One thing he’s not my president and never will be.The one person I truly admire is sheriff Pyle from Pima County thing for sure he’s no slush gut.He gets the job done.we’d have our military throughout the state protecting life and property.”God bless our military.

  • James

    Our immigration laws are not being enforced because the Executive Branch doesn’t want it enforced. Regardless of which party is in the Oval Office, the Open Borders policy holds sway. To suggest that the U.S. is incapable of controlling who and what passes over our borders is nonsense, every nation in the world does a better job of it than ours. Arizona is doing a better job of it than the federal government. Anyone can go down there and take pictures of illegal aliens flooding across that border, especially through the areas set aside for certain wildlife and wetlands. Our border patrol guards are forbidden by law to enter those areas. Through there, it’s a free pass.

  • Joh Wehr

    America must keep a strong and vibrant, conventional, strategic and special operations military capability, no matter the cost. You only have to go back in history to see how unprepared America was at the beginning of WWI, WWII and the Korean conflict. To strip our conventional, strategic and operational capability to project a shore is suicide in the making. America cannot become isolationist, disarm and role our borders in for protection. Instead, I agree we have to secure our borders and resolve the immigration issue. After 9/11 The military mission to destroy terrorism around the world and in Iraq and Afganistan is a just one and must be won. No matter how long it takes, no matter the cost we cannot falter on destroying extremists and those who sponsor and support terriorism. You cannot negotiate with terrorists. It will be a long and tough fight on the front lines of freedom but America will win. America still stands as the beacon of hope for many developing and third world countries. Peace through strength is the only way to maintain our democracy and Constitution. History tells us that.

  • Viktor Leben

    Governor Brewer should

    1) Declare a state of emergency and/or Martial Law ……

    2) Order State Militia/National Guard to expel the invaders/criminals from the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge……

    3) Make a formal request to Washington for assistance ………..

    Their you go … Here is the solution …. Brilliant, huh ?

    I see really good rhetoric on this site and enjoy reading the comments. But we need some action …

  • Phil

    Is the ignorance of our politicians so great that we cannot get anything accomplished because they don’t want to have to actually work? I think that something needs to be done about the illegals that are coming into the country, and taking jobs that I have applied for but cannot get because they are choosing immigrants over me. Another thing I think that a group of former Marines and Army special forces should be given a government jobs to be able to enforce and defend this country’s border and to repel any foreign intruders, and should be given the authority to use deadly force when encountering resistance. Save the government’s money and benefits for those who live here legally and do what is right to support the US and its government funded missions that protect, defend and support the citizens of the USA.

  • eddy james

    Maybe we could hire North Koreans to guard the border, they seem to know how to keep unwanted invaders or even hikers out of North Korea. They work cheap, just give them a AK a few thousand rds of ammo and pay them $5 for every dead Mexican invader. We could cure the illegal problem. They would be from a communist country so Obama would like them, unlike our border patrol.

    • Denniso

      eddy…how about $5 for every dead fool like you? People like you are a blight on our country’s reputation…why don’t you go to N Korea where you might fit in perfectly.

  • kelly tidwell

    this whole admiration of “nobama” by the media and the younger generations is as crazy as anything anyone could ever have imagined. my own grand children whom are in their early 20s , believe that this fool/communist/socialist/marxist/muslim/thug is doing a great job as head of our country ! these boys know first hand how hard their grandmother and i have worked , yet they are mesmerized by this administration ? both kids went to LIBERAL colleges and have been brain washed/hypnotized by the left/dark side ! what can possibly have happened to our country, what could create the mind set, that would allow a buffoon to come into power? how could george soros have pulled that many strings to place an illegal alien in command of our security our prosperity and our financial future ? we must VOTE these fool out before this country has a revolution ; people will only take so much !

    • Denniso

      Your ‘buffoon in power’ was George Bush. We haven’t had as dumb a president as he was in the history of the country. You are obviously blind and probably ignorant and can’t even recognize an intelligent and rational person like Obama…he’s a citizen and president for 61/2 more years,so get used to it. Watch soap operas and game shows and leave the future of our country to smarter people.

  • http://Ohio Tony Weinfurtner

    I haven’t heard anyone suggest that the wildfires in Arizona are being set by illegals, or some freak from LA. The fires make a great diversion, take manpower and cost a great deal of money. It cost them almost nothing to set them.

    I simply no longer can express myself about Obama. He sickens me and makes me feel sad for my country. How much more is God going to take, before he strikes us all down for abandoning Him?

    I’m buying Bibles for all my Grand-Children!

    • Denniso

      You’re coming unhinged…the southwest has fires every summer and usually much worse than what we have so far. The immigrants are trying to stay hidden, so why on earth would they start fires? They are here to work or sell drugs so why would they want to burn up the country? Your logic is missing.

      Tell your grandchildren from me that they are doing well to leave the ignorant and selfish rightwing part of their family and I wish them well in their search for the truth. Bibles aren’t going to get you anywhere, your god is not in control of anything…if ‘he’ were, wouldn’t we see some evidence of ‘his’ displeasure by now? Wouldn’t your own grandkids be struck down as well if you think they have joined the ‘darkside’????

  • Personal Finance Bible

    Be free from the love of money, content with such things as you have, for he has said, “I will in no way leave you, neither will I in any way forsake you.

    Personal Finance Bible

  • Texette

    Denniso – wow, enjoy your taxes, enjoy socialistic environment, etc etc. Please, when the revolution does start, and I feel confident that it will start, please stand in front of me.

    Only chance for this country will be to throw out all the incumbents. Grassroot organizations are going to start playing a major role in the country’s government.

    I hope people are not going to continue to be gullible by the mainstream media. Example: People concerned with eating healthy, i.e. no soy, sugar, processed foods, etc. are considered to have a disorder called: “Orthorexia Nervosa”.

    How many people can we dumb down????

  • John

    The article about Arizona being ceded to Mexico doesn’t surprise me one bit. I am a retired Spanish teacherand can remember going to Chapultepec Castle, a national historical museum in Mexico City, and seeing a painting that depicts Nueve Espana ( New Spain), territory that included what is now Mexico, parts of Central America, California,Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, parts of Oregon, Montana,and more. Mexican kids are taught in school that these parts of the U.S. are still Mexican territory, despite the fact that the ceded it to the U.S. in the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo after the Mexican War. We also got the Gadsen Purchase from Mexico. The fact that Mexico still has eyes on this territory can be confirmed from what Hispanic leaders here sy. Obama is risking our sovereignty by courting instant democrats through illegal immigration.Call your congressman today.


    Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; “Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die . . Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

    Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. “They’re afraid we’re going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They’re right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay.”

    Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, “The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot.”

    Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; “We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are shitting in their pants with fear. I love it.”

    Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, “Remember 187–proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens–was the last gasp of white America in California.”

    Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, “We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, “I’m going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.”

    Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, “California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn’t like it should leave.”

    Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, “We are practicing ‘La Reconquista’ in California.”

    Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University; “We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . ”

    Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

    On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held upside down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, “This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession.”

    Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education, and government contracts? It’s called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediately be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good. They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.

    Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.

    Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spite of agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California is home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How’s your county doing?

    According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the “greatest criminal challenge the country faces.” Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.

    Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spent over 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. “Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren’t fluent in English. Educators seek learning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references.”

    When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges–affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

    Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out.

    California Coalition for Immigration Reform
    5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
    Huntington Beach, CA 92649
    Phone 714.921.7142


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