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Carney’s Sideshow: Inviting The Press To Debt Talks Fosters Dishonesty

June 2, 2011 by  

Carney’s Sideshow: Inviting The Press To Debt Talks Fosters Dishonesty

The White House thinks the presence of press prevents lawmakers from truly speaking their minds.

Press Secretary Jay Carney spoke on behalf of President Barack Obama on Tuesday, offering the White House’s explanation for why the press was not invited to the President’s Wednesday debt talks with House Republicans.

“I think that’s closed press — I mean, in part because we need it to be and (Obama) wants it to be an open and frank exchange, and not the kind of thing that leads to — we get every day in Washington where one side goes up on TV and says something, another side goes up on TV shortly thereafter and says something else, and there’s not a real conversation,” Carney told the press corps. “He looks forward to listening, as he did with the Senate Republicans.”

In response to a question about the House’s vote to raise the debt ceiling without cutting spending, a ceremonial measure that was overwhelmingly rejected, Carney said the President had always wanted to cut spending, too — despite the fact that the vote was proposed in response to a call from Obama to simply raise the debt ceiling.

“Well, the President, as you know, agrees with members of both parties in Congress that we need to do something serious about deficit reduction,” Carney said.

“That is why, among many other measures that he’s taken, he asked the Vice President to lead the negotiations that Vice President is leading towards (sic) that end. And those negotiations have made progress, in our view, and we remain confident that there will be an agreement that will significantly reduce the deficit and answer the mail, if you will, with regard to those concerns that the President and members of both parties share.”

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  • http://YAHOO.COM B.FRANKLIN

    THEY WANT TO CUT THE DEFICIT,LET THEM START AT THE WHITE HOUSE.THIS MAN HAS NO CONCEPTION OF A DOLLAR. HE SPENDS LIKE IT WAS HIS MONEY.LETS ADD FOUR MORE TRILLION SO I CAN KEEP FLYING.

    • http://burkecomputers.blogspot.com/ DanB

      If they were serious about cutting the deficit they would not be doing what they are doing. Accounting tricks to keep government funded?! That sounds awfully sneaky. Seems to me that it translates to: “while you wrangle over whether we should keep spending too much money, we are going to go over here and keep spending too much money.” It doesn’t matter which way they vote on the issues right now, the hole is being dug deeper while we speak. Much deeper. I only wish that when the reality comes collapsing in on everyone that they’ll realise that they were sold a ponzi scheme wrapped within the cocoon of big government. Unfortunately, they have all been drinking in the propaganda so much so that they believe it. So they will be killing off and stoning all of us conservatives, and dumping us in mass graves like so many other socialist countries and it will take a couple generations before there is freedom again.

      What a pessimist I am today? And I even passed my CompTIA Linux+ Powered by LPI certification exam today. It is Sunday. That is probably it. I don’t like working on Sunday. I prayed this morning, and told God that after I pass this exam, I will go where I can to provide for my family that he has blessed me with. I just asked that if he could, I would like to not work on Sundays. There was a few things I considered as non-issue for Sunday work. Mostly emergency and medical stuff. I don’t consider government emergency services, except for military, coast guard, stuff like that. Don’t know where the future will take me. My wife and I paid for this with our own money and used up my vacation time in the hopes that we can fulfil our part to raise a family up in righteousness before God. Still don’t like the Sunday part of this….

  • big jack

    It continues to be a matter of positioning and nothing seriously done when it comes to the debt.
    If asked, most politicians from both sides of the isle would tell you they want to reduce the debt.
    Well if that is the case then you got to ask yourself, why isn’t done? or why is it taken so long?
    The answer is obvious , someone is lying. One could say , the best thing most members of congress can do is flat out lie or stretch the truth to suit the situation. Add to this the presses
    inability whether deliberately or from incompetence to get to the truth, the public is left in the dark. Then one must ask, is this what the politicians want in the first place?. My guess is , yes!

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

      What a bunch of out right lies, and the American people are suppose to swallow them because the liberal biased mainstream media refuses to do their job, and only bow at the feet of Obama. Can you imagine what the press would have said and done if Bush tried to close a govermental meeting to them, but not Obama, just look how he got Obamacare passed, even the Republican Congress Members were not allowed to sit in on the negotiations to the formulation of that bill, which the Democrats forced through and down the throats of the majority of American people that were against it. This just shows once again, among many examples, how Obama lied about open and transparency in government under his administration, a promise he made to the American people when he was campaigning for the Presidency, and what he condemned Bush and the Repuplicans for at the same time. And this is just one campaign promised he made, among many, that he lied about through doing just the opposite of his promise.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

        When Obama stated to the American people that it was morally wrong to attach anything to the up or down vote for raising the debt limit, and now his representative says he was really in agreement that spending cuts should be made in order to raise the debt limit, which is the truth? Because Obama’s representative now claims that Obama is in agreement with the huge majority of the American people on the conditions to raising the debt limit, invalidate him from being called a liar again? How much double-speak must come from one individual before he is presumed a liar and untrustworthy?

        • JUKEBOX

          As long as the dumb masses remain in their mass hypnotic state, the Alinski promoter will continue to convince them that his lies are more truthful than the Bible or anything else we consider to be right.

          • AustinAndy

            The spin doctor says that President Obama wants to cut the spending. Lie, lie, lie. As long as this president remains in office, out of control spending will be the policy, announced or unannounced. How much bigger is the Federal payroll under the first 2.5 years under President Obama than the one he “inherited” from President George W. Bush?

            Find the answer to that and you will begin to understand how calculated the lie about spending has become under this utterly unqualified head of state.

    • ValDM

      The press can hardly get at the truth or anything else, if they’re being denied access. Can you say More back-room middle of the night deals????

      • Dan az

        ValDM
        I can say that if your going to through a tantrum then it was a wise decision not to have the press around!
        Transparency at its finest!

  • Disgusted

    To reign in our spending we will need to take a hard look at all programs and make some hard hitting cuts. Neither party wants to be the bad guy as it will cost them votes in the end when re-election time comes up. We as American’s don’t want to give up anything we have now, even if it means saving our children and their children and their children from a horrible/debt ridden future.
    I personally think all political discussions should be done in the open. Nothing they discuss should be behind closed doors. I should, if I want, be able to hear everything they discuss and read everything they write. I pay their salary and therefore I am their boss – I own their computer, their desk, their chair, even the pen they write with.
    Obama campaigned that he would have an open and honest government, what a joke. He needs to be voted out. At this point I don’t even care who his opponent is – they will get my vote.

    • James

      I agree. Any congressmen who discusses government business behind closed doors, must be voted out of office. If the dollar and our economy are to survive, they and we all know that cutting the budget is mandatory.

    • JUKEBOX

      Sunshine laws are in a total eclipse in a Democrat administration, and the lamestream media is totally complicit.

  • s c

    Geepers, Andy. Aren’t there already more than enough pimps and hookers in America’s media brothel? Apparently, someone thinks the media will now develop standards and a measure of integrity. What a monumental WASTE of time and ‘effort.’

  • http://affiliateagendas.com/emergency/ Woodco

    What does it matter if the press were allowed into the negotiations or not? All they will report is what Obama wants to be reported. He has made it clear that he considers himself above the law of the land and the will of the people. Why does the public continue to support someone that holds them (the public) in contempt?

  • Thamera

    Wasn’t it Obama that promised MORE transparency in government??? hahahahahahahaha

    • JUKEBOX

      Can you say “NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY”, which today is synonymous with “DEMOCRAT PARTY”?

  • Dan az

    Thamera
    can you see me now?True transparency is that everyone can see right though him.

  • Thor

    “Press Secretary Jay Carney spoke on behalf of President Barack Obama on Tuesday, offering the White House’s explanation for why the press was not invited to the President’s Wednesday debt talks with House Republicans.”

    His ‘explanation,’”I think that’s closed press — I mean, in part because we need it to be and (Obama) wants it to be an open and frank exchange….”

    Translation: “It’s closed to the press because it’s closed to the press.”

    It leaves one with the suspicion that all that ‘frank’ discussion Obama has with the opposition–who know more about the problem than he does–is, in the rationality department, a one-sided argument with no teleprompters and no script to rescue that image It is hard to imagine the President looking so smooth under such conditions. Even the state run media cannot be trusted not to draw the right conclusions from that…and the President’s publicist–probably the same person who thought it was a good idea to snap pictures of Air Force One flying over ground zero–could not have that!

    • JUKEBOX

      Jay Carney has a terminal case of “RECTAL CRANIAL INVERSION”!

  • Gayle

    It would have been nice to see his constipated look though. Like most meetings did he leave after 20 or 10 minutes Oh yeah, the vp idiot set in for him. The press should have checked the links. We need to get rid of washington in total.

    • AustinAndy

      You are right, this President is more conspicuous at what he missed than what he attended. And you are right that the Press should have checked out the links; you should have correctly specified the golf links.

  • 45caliber

    More likely Oblama didn’t want the press to hear all the bargains he was trying to make.

    • JUKEBOX

      He probably didn’t want another “NETANYAHU MOMENT”.

  • TF

    So much for being transparent. This administration is filled with nothing but liars and cheats. Anyone who thinks that this group of bozo’s has any credibility should have their heads examined.

  • Loretta Theriot

    Obama brought 500 people with him on the 3 day European trip. He brought his chief and all kitchen help. Six doctors went with him and 35 vehicles plus the helicopter…. He brought all his own food etc. This is ridiculous. Also 12 teleprompters and quiet a few speech writers also were on the trip. So does this sound like he’s interested in cutting spending?

    • JUKEBOX

      He will agree to cutting spending right after he opens all of his school records, etc.

  • Mike

    Isn’t this the same Obama that had no problem raising taxes even if that meant less money coming into the government coffers? We the people are not supposed to remember what he has said in the past, or for that matter even heard such comments from him. Liar doesn’t come close to describing this piece of work or those that implement this crap!

    • JUKEBOX

      Look in your Thesauras for Mendacious, Duplicitous, Hypocritical,Pathological Liar, and a myriad of other adjectives that fail to accurately describe him fully.

  • Warrior

    Hey Carney, go back to taking photo’s of your own genitals. That’s what you creeps do best!

  • Jay

    On 12 January 1952, Rabbi Emanuel Rabinovich was asked to give a keynote speech to the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary. The implications of the following extract are chilling for all to read (especially socialists, communists, “radicals”, politically correct pressure groups of all types, and Jewish pressure groups such as the Anti-Defamation League) who would promote pro- Jewish policies and who would refute that there is a policy to use race relations to degrade society. Here is as blatant an admission as you are going to get and further evidence that the Protocols are very real and actively being updated to synchronise with current world events and the social status as it develops. However, as can be seen from the following, the Jewish Illuminati don’t always get it their own way: “Greetings, my children! You have been called here to recapitulate the principal steps of our new program. As you know, we had hoped to have twenty years between the wars to consolidate the great gains which we made from World War II, but our increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing opposition to us, and we must now work with every means at our disposal to precipitate World War III.”

    “The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfilment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will have its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every gentile a slave! “(applause from the gathering).

    “You remember the success of our propaganda campaign during the 1930′s, which aroused anti-American passions in Germany, at the same time we were arousing anti-German passions in America, a campaign which culminated in the Second World War. A similar propaganda campaign is now being waged intensively throughout the world. A war fever is being worked up in Russia by an incessant anti-American barrage, while a nationwide anti-Communist scare is sweeping America. This campaign is forcing all of the smaller nations to choose between the partnership of Russia or an alliance with the United States.”

    “Our most pressing problem at the moment is to inflame the lagging militaristic spirit of the Americans. (The failure of the Universal Military Training Act was a great setback to our plans, but we are assured that a suitable measure will be rushed through Congress immediately after the 1952 elections.) The Russian as well as the Asiatic peoples, are well under control, and offer no objections to war, but we must wait to secure the Americans.”

    “This program will achieve its objective, the Third World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests. Israel, of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devastated and exhausted, we will arbitrate, sending our Control Commissions into all of the wrecked countries. This war will end for all time our struggle against gentiles. We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generations of white children are being born. Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid whites to mate with whites. The white women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the white men with black women. Thus the white race will disappear, for mixing the dark with the white means the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy, will become only a memory.”

    “We will embark on an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the earth. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.”

    “There will be no more religions. Not only would the existence of a priest class remain a constant danger to our rule, but belief in an afterlife would give spiritual strength to irreconcilable elements in many countries. We will, however, retain the rituals and the customs of Judaism as the mark of our hereditary ruling caste, strengthened by our racial laws so that no Jew will be allowed to marry outside our race, nor will any stranger be accepted by us.”

    “We may have to repeat the grim days of World War II, when we were forced to let the Hitlerite bands sacrifice some of our people, in order that we may have adequate documentation and witnesses to legally justify our trial and execution of the leaders of America and Russia as war criminals, after we have dictated the peace. I am sure you will need little preparation for such a duty, for sacrifice has always been the watchword of our people, and the death of a few thousand Jews in exchange for world leadership is indeed a small price to pay.”

    “To convince you of the certainty of that leadership, let me point out to you how we have turned all of the inventions of the white man into weapons against him. His printing presses and radios are the mouthpieces for our desires, and his heavy industry manufactures the instruments which he sends out to arm Asia and Africa against him. Our interests in Washington are greatly extending the Point Four program for developing industry in backward areas of the world so that after industrial plants and cities of Europe and America are destroyed by atomic warfare, the whites can offer no resistance against the larger masses of the dark races, who will maintain an unchallenged technological superiority.”

    “And so, with the vision of world victory before you, go back to your countries and intensify your good work, until that approaching day when Israel will reveal herself in all her glorious destiny as the Light of the World!” (Quoted in Canadian Intelligence Service, Sept 1952 and in US publication Common Sense 1952).

    The writer Eustace Mullins reports in his book The History of the Jews, that a double agent, who had infiltrated the inner circle of the Anti-Defamation League of the B’nai B’rith revealed to him that the publication and circulation of Rabinovich’s speech had caused the Jews to postpone all of their plans for a Third World War. The translator from Yiddish of the quote, Henry H. Klein, was a Jew who was horrified by the plans of his own people. He died in New York the day after a meeting with a CIA man, and the CIA now possess a copy of this document.

    And here it is so interesting to compare the above admission that the Jewish people are considered “sacrifices” to a greater cause of world takeover by their elite brethren. As well as a mass of scientific and historical evidence that the Second World War was simply a tool for the furthering of the New World Order agenda, circumstantial evidence also exists for the planned sacrifice of 6 million people as part of the process. The Jew Ben Hecht, in his book Perfidy, quotes Max Nordau at the World Zionist Conference of 1911: “The same righteous governments are preparing complete annihilation for six million people.”

    However, as true history has shown, the six million figure was never reached in the so-called Holocaust except as a symbolic number used to magnify the Jewish losses and gain support for Zionism. Although, undoubtedly millions of Jews and non-Jews did indeed suffer and were a bloody sacrifice to the god of the Elders of Zion. “There is scarcely an event in modern history that cannot be traced to the Jews. We Jews today, are nothing else but the world’s seducers, its destroyer’s, its incendiaries. . . Our last revolution is not yet made” (Jewish writer, Oscar Levy, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution).

    And so too say the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

    Time and time again, throughout history, Jews and Zionists have repeated these same anti-Gentile views, all of which resonate in perfect sympathy with this infamous document, so often condemned as a fraud and anti-Semitic. Even if the Protocols had never existed, there would be ample proof of the very conspiracy which they document so graphically. How nonsensical are the cries of “anti-Semitic!” and “fraud!” in relation to the Protocols. How could anyone who knows the true history of Judaism and the background of this document (in the next section) decry their authenticity?

    The enormous challenge we face, Gentiles and Jews alike, is whether we will wake up to the truth in time to be effective against the full implementation of the plot against mankind which has provably been in existence for at least 2,600 years – before “the last revolution is. . . made”.

    Source of article: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/proof.htm#background

  • Ridge Runner

    I haven’t heard that much out right lying and bull sh** in a long time. This man is nothing but a con artist and must have the inteligence of a frog. You know that a frog bumps his butt when he hops and he just does it again.Does he think he is amusing or does he think ever one is as dumb as he is.

  • Jay

    The left changes monikers whenever their chosen title becomes too easily identified with their collectivist political intentions. They seized the title “Progressives” in the early 20th century and adopted “Liberal” when the progressive image became tarnished. Today, with liberalism inextricably linked to collectivism, the left has returned to the progressive label. But one problem remains. Words have meanings that defy distortion, and neither “progressive” nor “liberal” accurately reflects the left’s governing philosophy.

    The case has been made, on the pages of American Thinker itself, that identifying the leftist as a Progressive or Liberal is erroneous. It has been stated that policies declared to be progressive or liberal are actually backward and authoritarian. Thus, the leftist has been aptly identified, based on policy and result, as regressive.

    To state the case further, not even the definition of “progressive” or “liberal” identifies with the leftist ideology. It’s just that the left has manipulated those words until the distortion has become accepted. It is a common practice, for they routinely ignore reality and wear their title du jour like camouflage.

    “Progressive” is defined as advocating, attaining, or being characterized by improvement and forward thinking. It dates to the early 17th century and became politicized in the late 1800s. The modern left isn’t progressive in the practical or classical sense of the word. In fact, much of what constituted progressivism during the early 20th century is the antithesis of contemporary leftist beliefs.

    Early Progressives certainly desired social change, but they regularly utilized private organizations — such as churches and charities — for effecting their transformations. Not even the Progressive Era’s trust-busting government regulators were akin to today’s leftists. Those reformers sought to protect the future of market competition from monopolistic mergers and thwart the fledgling communist movements. Creating a labyrinth of bureaucratic red tape wasn’t their primary objective.

    Nothing in the word “progressive” and little in early progressivism describes today’s leftist. The left has no desire to defend capitalism, foster competition, or accomplish their vision of social justice via private channels. They have only an insatiable lust for control.

    Leftists promote nothing new; their goals are those of an archaic doctrine. Forward thinking isn’t featured in their agenda, the purpose of which is to repackage policies that are proven failures. “Bolshevik” is more descriptive than “progressive,” for the left shares the Bolshevik’s socialistic dreams. They are mired in the past, rendering “progressive” an inappropriate description.

    Socialist ideals quickly co-opted the early Progressive movement, giving the title a black eye. Leftists then adopted “Liberal,” a more inviting identifier, but one that also defies their agenda.

    “Liberal” spawns from the Latin “liberalis” and “liber” meaning noble, generous, and free. A genuine liberal bristles at authoritarian attitudes and fulfills the nature of the word. America’s leftists, conversely, are adamant in their support for a domineering central government and generous only when distributing their neighbors’ property.

    Leftist liberalism defines not freedom, but the welfare state. Their concept of liberalism frees one segment of society to live at another segment’s expense. Leftists then pat each other on the back for their thoughtfulness and generosity. It is indeed a warped vision.

    Leftists have moved from Progressives to Liberals and back to Progressives, but in name only, never in definition. Their quasi-metamorphosis results from their ever-present collectivist mentality. Once the public realizes the agenda behind the name, the name is changed to obfuscate the agenda.

    The left is an immutable lie; let’s call it that. Their social desires reflect a statism worthy of Marx, Lenin, or Mao. They’re trapped in the past, in antiquated testaments to a flawed and failed philosophy where liberty is defined as the ability to avoid responsibility. Ignored is the unassailable truth that liberty without responsibility is nonexistent. Leftists demand allegiance to a backward dependency. To call them Progressives or Liberals is patently false.

    The left cannot be allowed the privilege of defining their nature. Today’s “Progressive Liberal” desires to rob us of our autonomy and render us wards of a collectivist state. Their label should reflect their innate desire to move society backward. Leftists are regressive in every sense of the word. The Regressive label has been proposed for them before. Let it become their perpetual identifier.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/leftists_are_neither_progressi.html

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