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CAIR Denounces Tom Tancredo’s Tea Party Remarks On Immigrants

February 22, 2010 by  

CAIR denounces Ted Tancredo's Tea Party remarks on immigrants During the recent convention of the Tea Party nation, former Republican Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo delivered a speech in which he blasted "illiterate" immigrants for having elected President Obama. His statement is now attracting growing criticism from ethnic organizations.

At the convention, Tancredo said that those who cannot spell or say the word "vote" in English elected Obama, whom he defined as "a committed socialist ideologue." He added that this happened because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote."

In response, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent civil rights and advocacy group, said the speaker’s apparent call for literacy tests that would enable individuals to obtain voting rights would "turn back the clock on the civil rights movement."

"Mr. Tancredo’s offensive remarks are an insult to all those who fought, and sometimes died, to ensure that Americans of all races could exercise their right to vote," said CAIR national board chairman and North Carolina State Senator Larry Shaw.

Shaw also called on elected officials in both parties as well as National Tea Party Convention organizers to repudiate Tancredo’s remarks.
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  • Darrel

    I could care less what CAIR says in this case. We know their underlying motives.

  • http://None Lee

    CAIR sucks eggs.

    • Greg

      I think they suck more than eggs. I’m really getting sick and tired of these idiots trying to tell me what to say. If the words are in the ENGLISH dicitionary and this country is still free than I can say what ever I want and so can any body else.

      • Ty Stephens

        The last time I looked we still have a Constitution and we still have freedom of Speach even though the present Idiot in the White house thinks he can supercede it is crazy.
        There should be a test for anyone who is voting in a local or national election, At least prove that you understand and no I ballots should not be in 10 different langs, ENGLISH will surfice, I have no problem with people coming here legally. But something has to be done when someone can come across the border being 9mos pregnant and go into labor cross the border and that child is an American,that’s not how it is suppose to be but the liberals want it that way for a reason and we can see that by who is in the White house and the Senate and House.
        I’m all for a test before you can vote for everyone.

        • Tryagain55

          The last time I looked we still have a Constitution and it says NOT A THING ABOUT A TEST TO VOTE. You want strict adherence to the Constitution except when you don’t Like the outcome. Your a bunch racist faux conservatives!

          • BAF

            I’d rather be a racist conservative that be a marxist. At least conservatives care about the future of this country and it’s constitutional laws rather than worry about insulting a few radical people. If you can’t live under this country’s ideals and beliefs….. get out! We don’t give a rats ass about you or your radical organizations. Go Tom!

          • denniso

            Tancredo has always been an idiot and fool,so this is nothing new. He lies and manipulates and the rightwing nuts love him for it.
            BAF, you don’t meet my view of American ideals and values,so why don’t you get the hell out of MY country??

          • eyeswideopen

            Tryagain, if we had a test, most couldn’t pass and it would easier to get this country going in the right direction. I don’t agree with a test, just making a point about the hyprocrisy, bias, and stupidity that reigns here. They scream about the Constitution, but then don’t want to obey it.

          • TrueGrit

            The ignorant worthless know nothings who are too stupid and illiterate to pass any kind of a test dont deserve to even be in this country and need to be run out ! This country is for Real Americans and those that want to contribute to our country. Not ignorant,uneducated third world deadwood and other noncontributing moochers. As for the racist islamic garbage at CAIR the U.S. Gov’t. needs to shut this terrorist organization down immediately and deport all its criminals.President Bush should have shut this group down long ago with the other money funneling so-called charities .Its time to round up this garbage & send them back to their miserable Third world countrys.

          • Goodeye

            See my reply to eyeswideopen (February 22, 2010 at 9:24 PM)

        • http://minnesota MarieElise

          hello .i certainly agree with you .and more about the anchor babies .this is absolutely insane . i think we are the only ones to allow this in the world .Ireland did it but no more .!!!

        • wildthing

          The last I heard, the parents had to be American citizens before the child could be an American citizen. One also is suppose to be a citizen of the USA to vote. What is this, letting every tom, dick, and harry coming in and voting. They have no allegiance to this country and do not give a rats as* what happens to it. I am afraid, one day we will get a communist party voted into the White House, if we haven’t already, because they ran under a different party. May God help us all.

          They need to get rid of half of these alphabet soup groups in the White House and maybe some money could be saved.

        • Kgharts

          How about the driver licence exam in many languages. Last I looked, most, if not all, traffic signs are in english (make that American). Would someone tell me the logic of taking a test in Martian and driving on Earth. The PC police have infiltrated every level of government Buearacracy and now they want to influence my country’s governance.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I think Carr (or whatever spelling)should absolutely return to where they are from. We didn’t invite them here. As the Australian Prime Mister put it, we made our country what it is. You are free to come here we are not changing any of our laws to suit your fancy, if you don’t like it go back to where you came from this is Number 1. I agree in the literacy test – if you cannot read English the official language of the US, are not a citizen (many who were not voted because they had a social security number) and should not be able to vote because they don’t have a clue what they are voting for. There are a lot of young people educated in the US that will not be able to pass the literacy test either by the way. None of them serve or have served in the military as you again have to be able to read and write English. I hope that they don’t apologize and tell them to get a life. Our country was not based on anything they have to say.

  • Darl Easton

    It is often said, “the truth hurts.” Is it unreasonalbe to ask that there be some level of intellect to vote, else the voter is just someone else’s puppet.

    • TIME

      Darl, Very good point about the Truth issue.

    • elizabeth sorrells

      Thank you Darl. The truth hurts is exactly where I see Cair’s outcry coming from. We do know their (Cair’s) motive. That is to deceive as they are against the United States and it’s constitution. This word is so needed by Tom Tancredo as what good does all of the best campaigning if in the end the voter in that booth (and there are millions of them)justs votes in the way instructed; yet they know nothing about our constitution, &/or the American way of life. This word (truth) is so needed. We have begun to be afraid to speak out due to being molded by a government that does not love our country, a government that is lawless and is progressive. “Give me liberty or give me death.”

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        My Dear elizabeth, “God gave me ‘liberty’. Try and take it away, and I’ll give you ‘death’ ” is my motto.

      • Goodeye

        I agree. See my reply to eyeswideopen (February 22, 2010 at 9:24 PM)

    • eyeswideopen

      Darl, are you saying that our founding fathers were not bright enough to have thought of that? Obviously they made a decision which you don’t like, but that’s just tuff isn’t it?
      Honor the Constitution and quit assuming that you are smarter than they were.

      • Goodeye

        The Constitution has been amended 27 times. If it had remained unamended as originally written, America would still have slavery (Amendment XIII, 1865), women would be unable to vote (Amendment XIX, 1920), blacks would not have been able to vote (Amendment XV, 1870),prohibition never would have come and gone (Amendment XVIII, 1919 and Amendment XXI, 1933), and we would not now have an income tax (Amendment XVI, 1913), and 18 years olds would still have to wait until they were 21 to vote (Amendment XXVI, 1971). Our Founding Fathers assumed that anyone reaching the age of majority would have, in that time span, achieved at least a modicum of intelligence to be able to cast an informed vote, but back then people were not being victimized by the worthless public education system we now have. The high school dropout rate is increasing. My U.S. History and U.S. Government classes came in my junior and senior years. Does it not scare you that ignorant, illiterate high school dropouts are allowed to vote? And to suggest that a literacy test would only adversely affect non-whites is the height of racism. It is way past time to take care of two problems at once; amend the Constitution, NO DIPLOMA, NO VOTE!

        • Kgharts

          I agree with your sentiment, but supposedly our Congress persons have diplomas and the intelligent quotient is lacking. Diplomas do not make (guarentee) for intelligent persons or reasoning, only educated ones (the book learners) – there is a difference between the two.

          I personally do not automatically consider a graduate an intelligent reasoning person. They have to proof that to me first. Nor do I auto-consider an elected official an intelligent thinker either. They are elected by the other (diplomaed)morons from thier district. If they are intelligent, maybe they were elected by mistake. You see, there are far more graduate morons than there are dropout morons.

          Most attorneys got a law degree by studing books, not by experienceing the law. Therefore, many have not used real intelligence through out law practice, on eiter side of the bench. LAW is not intelligent thought, it is legisation that any moron can do, that governs a people, and much of it is nonsence, unenforcable, unreasonable, and unnecessary. Any intelligent person can figure that out.
          The Income Tax is but one example. It was legislated by our diplomaed brain-dead government employees. Many of whom are still elected to government, and/or currently serving, including the current crop of buffoons, including the White House and both chambers of Congress. Whose at fault? The general public, most having diplomas as well.

          But attorneys/politicians obediently run through the law logic as if it were intelligent thought, which it is not. The deception and manipulation of that law is what attorneys do best, from both sides of the bench. Much of it is legalized morally criminal activity. Its called a scam when it is not legal. There is a fine line between the two.

          The real stupidity is the general public allowing it to happen in the first place. That same stupidity elects our government and rolls over like a house pet waiting for the next tummy rub. Most electorate (50%+) have diplomas. It says nothing of intelligence.

          Obama got his education the liberal way, by not experiencing what he is espousing. He is a priviaged class. He has not lived in the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republic (USSR), nor Briton, nor under Canadian Socialist medicine. He has not had a need for a heart transplant that is 20 months in the future. He has not felt the pain of slavery or he likes the feeling of ruling too much. He read too many books, and like his hands, his mind is soft with rhetorical and idioligical nonsence. He only learned it by ignoring basic freedoms and the risks that go with it that make this country as great as it is. He does not want to experience the risks of personal freedoms but rather the security of enslavement. Freedom and the associated risks make a nation lean and mean. Socialism, makes a nation fat and weak, not to mention, broke.

          Obama would be the type of person, after the civil war, to stay on the plantation where it was safer, fearing having to go hungry due to his own lack of personal inititive to fend for himself. That is the risk of personal freedom. There are no socialized collective handouts/bailouts with freedom, only charity that is FREELY given by others, not ripped from ones pocket and given to another.

          Apparently half this country is not prepared for,nor deserve the freedom they currently have.

          You are either FREE with risks, or you are ENSLAVED in safety. To truely learn something, one needs to use the extra part of intelligent thought that many are merely too lazy to use. But lets not forget that many more are BLIND in thought as well. Especially at the voting booth. The truth hurts when it comes home to roost.

          I agree with your sentiment, but in truth, we are currently engulfed in diplomaed loonatics. We have to revert back to the 3-R’s and enforce disipline in schools. A student MUST go to school, there is no option. Either the mild one or the more stringent one over there. But you will go. No dropouts allowed. Real Student elective in the real world. Parents given back authority in the home, and made responsible again for the competitive education of thier children. This and more, will provide a better product when it comes to graduation and intelligence. That equates to better choices at the voter booth, and the ignorant illegal is a non-issue due to intolerance on the part of intelligent public. Unlike it is now.

  • John

    Hopefully the FBI will investigate CAIR. Makes one wonder how much of a donation Mr Shaw receives for standing up for CAIR and being on the board of directrs of a terrorist supporting orginization?? Here is a prime example of Islams attempt to circumvent and stop the “Free Speech” amendment by claming it is a civil rights violation. Next, Mr Tancredo will be accused of being and Islamophbic. Keep speaking sir.

    • Kgharts

      A-MEN!!

  • Joe

    These days anybody that says or does anything to protect American interest (that would include ALL ligitimate Americans) is criticized for being racist or for trying to ‘turn back the clock on civil rights’. The unfortunate reality is that we have become so politically correct and nationally gutless that that line of crap will continue to sell.

    Having said that, yes, I do believe that illegals helped to elect Obama. However, I do not think his being our first overtly commited socialist, pro government take over of every aspect of American life can be blamed entirely on illegals. Also to blame would be a large number of whining, crying, gutless socialist/communist wannabe Americans, a number of sexual degenerates, a number of man haters, a
    number of pro-death baby slaughterers, a large number of registered dead people, cartoon characters, big money people on the liberal left, a lack of requiring proof of citizenship at the voting booths and a general undermining of true American ideas and principles. In the name of “freedom” we are becoming slaves to the rest of the world and our current president and “democrat” controlled congress is all for that.

    Then again, I suppose I should tone it down. I wouldn’t want to be accused of saying our president and many of our controlling, dictatorial senators and representatives are “un-American”.

    God forbid …. oops… scratch that…. Allah forbid that kind of honesty in todays America.

    • American

      Joe, I have to laugh to start with but I’m in total agreement with everything you said. So often I have heard that the American people wanted, and elected, obama and I wanted to argue that if we took out all of the illegal votes, such as those who are actually dead or those who voted numerous times or those who were not dead and only voted once but were not qualified to do so, the results may have come out differently. The election wasn’t the big landslide liberals try to make us think it was. If you also deduct those who were not mentally qualified to vote and those who did so becuase the believed the MSM’s views instead of finding out the truth we’d be talking drastically different results. You’re right, we should not allow anyone the privilege of voting unless they are legally qualified and are capable of making informed decisions. I’m not suggesting we only let those who agree with us vote. That would be unAmerican and not what our forefathers had in mind for us but it would save us from the same type of atrocities we now have.

      • Joe

        American,

        My own sister told me that “the most important thing about Barrack Obama is that for the first time in history the American people voted for a black man”. When I said “I don’t agree with that” she said “That is because you are a bigot”. When I then tried to tell her why I did not agree with that statement of hers, she would not allow me to talk at all. When I continued to try, she accused me of yelling at her. Alas, even the best of us have those in our families whose thinking is as deep as a bottle cap.

        Personally, I do not believe the American people elected Barrack Obama. I think this was purely and simply an obviously “stolen” election. I find it disheartening to discover that the majority no longer rules in this country, the liars, the thieves, the socialist, the arrogant do. Some one said on here that Obama will be a one term presidency. Maybe. But I would not bet on it. I would never bet against the ability of lyings, sneaking, thieving, soialistist, communist wannabes (I say that because the only way to maintain a socialistic society is by government coerceon and when the Russians did that, we called it communism) to steal from the masses for their own elitist purposes.

        It makes me glad I am growing old in 2010. Given what I see happening today, I would not want to be growing old in the year 2030.

        • TIME

          Joe, I agree with you, {the only people I have found that admit to voting for Barry,} Have had really week arguments as to why.

          As well it seems that if you fail to graps these week arguments your a raciest, as well many other colorful names.
          So we can never over look the “WHITE GUILT” vote. And the just outright “aggressively STUPID” vote.

          look at what Howard Stern did with his interviews, its a classic example of people not even knowning what the alledged candidate stood for, {yet voted for them}
          Even though they agreed with the issues noted by John MacCane, that is thinking it was Barry’s ideas, and strangly enough said no to Barry’s great ideas, again thinking that they were John MacCane’s.

          Can we all say “Aggressively Stupid.”

          • Joe

            Well, on a positive note, I remembered why I hadn’t talked to my sister for years, just before I hung up the phone on her.

        • Kgharts

          As I understanded the election process, though I have tried to learn, technically, Obama was not elected by the people. He was elected by the electoral college. A president can not be elected by a popular vote. So I don’t know why we even have a popular vote. Its like waving a cup of sugar over the dough and calling the baked result a sugar cookie. Perhaps someone could enlighten me further.

    • Joyce

      How wonderfully you put MY sentiments to words. I agree totally with every word.
      The white race, and in particularly white MALES, are the true minorities of America. I think it is time that we, as white Americans, form the NAAWP organization, develop WET channels for television, and a WHITE Miss American, and a WHITE College. Then, we would all be equal again.

      • myself

        Joyce, I so agree with you. We could also give away scholarships to WHITE students and have clubs and civic groups for WHITES. The list of the BLACK and/or SPANISH programs goes on and on!!
        We need to all stop talking and start doing. Take our country back.

      • Joe

        Joyce, do you suppose it might someday be possible for a highschool prom king and queen to both be white and the school district not be accused of a hate crime?

        LOL

      • iowaheretic

        For christ’ sake.

        • Joe

          I guess it just depends on what part of the country you live in.

          • David

            Yep bo sure has helped out race relations :)

          • Joe H.

            Actually David he has! I have noticed more and more intelligent blacks that are fed up with Obummer and will NOT vote for him again and I admire them for that! He has shown people just how valuable an educated non-socialistic black is!! I have a lot of respect for the ones that are waking up and pity the ones that aren’t!!!

          • TIME

            Joe, Man have you hit the nail on the head!

      • Winnie

        What about the all white male clubs that the were so prevailent in the south. What about the the only white public places that were very public in the south? I know that there are some decent white people and I know that many, many inventions were made by the white men, but you seem to think that the white people are being treated unfairly. I know otherwise because we, the Native Americans and the Native Canadians are truly the minorities. We are not even mentioned when you start to talk about the black, the latinos, the asians, the muslims, and many other minorities in the Americas. So stop and think for a minute who the richest people are in the United States and tell me who the minorities are in that group.

        • Johnny depp

          You’re right baby! They equate white legal. So, you must be an illegal.
          I wonder were they would try to send you. If knew the truth that most on power places are put there because the few controlling everything remain behind the scene, and they don’t care what color the puppets are long as they serve their purpose. As a matter of fact they will put the whites as their servants once all of the pieces in their puzzle come to place, and there will nothing they will be able to do. They have a master plan to en

        • libertytrain

          Winnie – for me I only recall the all white male clubs that the were so prevalent in the North.

          • eyeswideopen

            libertytrain, Does Augusta National Golf Club located in GA, ring a bell? It allowed the first black player in 1990. I believe that is not located in the north.

          • Libertytrain

            Eyes, sure – but I also remember it being equally widespread in the North as the South – God forbid you were Jewish instead of black – The North in my years experience living there during the late 50′s, 60′s and 70′s and early 80′s was equally or far more discriminatory than anything I have seen in the South or have learned from people of the various races that have lived in the South their entire lives. Hey, the golf course you referred to is just a highly publicized golf course because of the Master’s – I suspect there are others throughout this vast Country probably still managing to hold on to being white and male -

        • Joe

          Winnie,

          you’ll get no arguments from me on that one. I spent 3 1/2 years in Alaska in the early 70′s and I saw the the Indian and Eskimo people often treated like the blacks of the 1950′s. I wish I knew something to say that would make all that injustice disappear, but I don’t. All I know is that today, we are all human and the United States, for all our faults, is the best contemporary country to live in. Our white forefathers had a vision of people being united. Granted, much of that dream in the early days was built by slave labor on someone elses land. But the fact is that human beings have always been abusive of those not as strong or advanced as themselves. All we can do is struggle to see a day when that is no longer true, at least in our own country. Unfortunately, I believe we are loosing that battle and the more we capitulate to liberal, socialistic ideology, the worse things will become. I have decided in my own mind that there are basically two kinds of people. You are either American or you are not, and if you are not, that’s ok too so long as you are not a jerk. Unfortunately, the jerks do seem to always gain the upper hand and society, here in the states, and in the world, seems to be sliding into a deeper pit. All we can do is try to figure out what is really right and work with that from where we are today.

          • Winnie

            Joe, thank you for acknowledging you, and once my, country’s injustices. I am glad that you have seen first hand the blight of the Native Alaskans. As I have said before a few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch. I wish we could all work together to solve the problems that are created by the government instead of name-calling and assuming that the present leaders hate the United States.

            Time, I agree that we should treat each other with respect and take the time to hear what the others are saying. I am trying my best to act like a mature person, but as to being human, well we know we aren’t perfect.

        • TIME

          Winnie, Not all whites are the problem just as all black’s are not the problem, etc..
          Just use a simple rule of thumb; Treat everyone like you would like to be treated.
          If you are true to your belief It really works, folks know your not going to treat them any differant than anyone else. I don’t see color nor race, I only see actions and reactions.

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        Dear Joyce, I almost fell out of my chair, laughing so hard. “WET channels for television”? Trust me, the “border hoppers”, as their known in “Caleforniya”, will be screaming “Racisist El Blanco Porko Gringo’s” in outrage. (By the by, “Gringo” is, in it’s self, a racist term.)

      • Kgharts

        I agree with this writer.

        I am a retired person that doesn’t consider myself racist just because I favor my own race over another, just like other races favor thier own. That is good to be proud of your own heritage.
        I have in fact, made many friends of color, but I would not marry one. My preferrence.
        I do not favor slavery, of anyone, much less a person of color or nationality. I was never a part of a Civil War issue, and to my knowledge, family never owned a plantation, though I have strong roots to the South. I am on the side of anyone who is denied a drink at a fountain. This is America, land of the free. ALL are equal.

        However, I was called a racist when I objected to illegals of any race. The shear numbers of illegals are a blight on this country and its leaders.

        “It’s not the race, stupid, its the illegality”. There are no controls, no order.

        The population is out of control. There is no governance. The responsibilities are lop-sided. And a person gets smeared because they see the nation going to hell in a hand basket.

        I have been calling for “white college funds”, “White” Television, etc, et al, ever since the PC police came out back in the 1970′s. Most did not listen. Many were Hippies and other bleeding hearts.

        Why is it racist when a white channel wants to start white programing, with predominately white actors and movies,when a black channel can do the same with blacks with no outcry. Is the word “Negro” or “black” in a name a racist connotation? If so, why hasn’t it been removed?!

        “colored” is a racial word. Lets strike the word “Negro” from the dictionary and all scientific literature. Oh, thats right, “Negro” is a white racist word invented by whites. Africans don’t call themselves Negro. Its a white scientific word.

        Well, Africans had millions of years to advance civilization. Since it was the European that advanced the civilization we now enjoy, we can call it Negro whenever we want to. English is spoken all over the world. Zwahili is not a household second language, and neither is arabic. America’s first language is English (albiet, Americanized)

        When did “Black” become a racial word. Its a color. As an artist, I mix color, not races. I don’t mix Negro. I mix black, and brown. So who is calling the most attention to their race? It is the “black” community doing all the race-mongering. The so-called “color-less” community. Its one giant pity party.

        Most Negros are brown skin. Only a few could remotely call themselves black, as only a few whites can call themselves albinos. Most “whites” are pink to tan colored. “Blacks” are correctly called Negroes or Negroid in race issues, right along side of “caucasian”.

        Seems everyone likes to be called by Slang words. Blacks call whites “Honkies”. At least, “Nigger” wasn’t a slanderous term during slave times, but merely an offshoot of Negroid or Negro, for people who slurred their words. I have no idea where “Honkie” comes from. It is a true hate-racial term invented by the “colored” peoples. Go figure, all you PC people.

        In addition, you have people really upset when they hear the word “Nigger”, as if they themselves were slaves and heard it while picking cotton. Very sensitive people these. I think they need a cause to complain about.

        Truth is, most peoples ancestry have been ostersized and ridiculed, and even enslaved at one time or another. The Irish were persecuted relentlessly, the Native American (“the only good indian is a dead indian” – I happen to be part Cherokee -”Trail of Tears”?!!), the Russian (by thier own people yet), Arabs.
        Even Africans enslaved each other, and without their help there would be fewer slaves brought to the Americas. And on it goes. No modern trauma from those events. Only the most politically correct and advantageous complaints are allowed.

        Its been over 140 years since the Civil War. Not many people are alive(0) now who were living then (slaves OR whites) and experienced the brutal slavery.
        So the Dixie Flag is only a convienent outlet for a self-pity party. Most living today enjoy substantial freedom that many white males don’t recieve.
        Fact is, the Dixie Flag killed more Northern WHITE folks than all the blacks slaves in the south combined. It was the most killings in most of our wars combined. Wheres the trauma with the white folks? Get over it NAACP! The flag is more than a black suppression symbol! Its a symbol of a proud people that has little to do with black people. The Civil War issues went far beyond slavery. Slavery was a convienent, understandable rally cry, but was a minor part of the war.

        NAACP
        AAAAH, Yes! National Association of Asian and Colored People (NAACP)promotes black interests. How about a proposed National Association of White People (NAWP), to promote white interest. Same thing! Oh, I can hear the outcry from here.
        The KKK (Clan) was blatantly a hate organization, like the NAZI, like the Black Panthers, etc. Hate groups can not be tolerated but are in all social groups. At least thier agenda is out in the open.

        But the hypocracy is rampant among civil groups. Subliminal hate groups such as Black Television (BET) or the NAACP is another form of the same thing, only less militant. They have succeeded in intimidating the general white population into giving up basic rights of fair play and wealth. They did a “run-around” unlike the Black Pathers and KKK.

        Back in the 1970-80′s I got passed over because I am white and male, by both blacks and women, because of quotas.

        Once, after my military service, I waited 8 months for a printer (union) position and a 18 yo black boy was put at the top of the list in front of me because of color – he EARNED nothing.
        Later,I was passed over for promotion because they needed a (less qualified) woman in the ranks for appearances.
        Then my children were threatened to go to school across the city, not in my own community, because of color. They did not take black kids and transport them across town to a black community school.

        I moved my tax revenue and votes to another community,as did many others- they vacated the city. I eventually began home schooling when it was illegal. It was because of the liberal PC city council that was at fault. The politician. That is just for starters. I get along fine with my (colored) next door neighbor. I can talk to him like I am writing now.

        With all this, I am not angry at the race populations, I do not dislike hispanics, chinese, or blacks, or even whites. I am disgusted with the corruptness, cowardness, and hypocracy that it has manifested in all races, on this one issue alone. I am disgusted with how our leaders have been so intimidated. I am ashamed for them.
        I remarked back then that this cancerous corruption, greed, and PC will destroy this country.

        It reminds me of the riotous people looting when the commumity is in a hurting way. There is no regard for the welfare of others or a civil order, no sense on ethics, or personal character. Those racial quotas, only threw PC blood slurry in the water of political racial sharks to take advantage of.

        We are on our way folks. In another 30 years (max), I will be more than ready to take my place next to my ancestors.

    • http://www.breakingnewsjournal.net&www.popham08.com Popham

      Hey Joe:
      Don’t “tone it down”. You’re on a roll.
      More power to you.
      And of course the politically correct of our society want to give
      amnesty to 12 million illegals, so that there’ll be more Democrat
      voter turnout in future elections.
      Simply put; we need to vote out the incompetent incumbents of both
      parties on Nov. 2nd.

      • Joe

        the problem with ’12 million’ (I consider that a very conservative estimate) is not just that the democrats want the votes. It is also that the republicans really do want the cheap labor. Therefore, neither party does what is best for national security.

      • David

        The only reason most hard working Latinos are dumbocrats is because they started really coming across the border during Clinton’s reign and the bubble was growing then so they equated democrat with growing economy. HA! The ones I know that actually work hard for a living are figuring out the truth.

        • Kgharts

          Reply to David

          Well, David. (Nice name. Named my son David.)

          I am in the ‘senior’ ranks and in my early years in Californicate, before Pelosi-cate, I remember Hispanics being mostly “Dumocrates” back then (40′-50′s), because it is the basic premise of Dumocrates to give away the farm with freebees: welfare, food, services, mecical, etc, …from everyone else, and you didn’t have to earn it to recieve it. Therefore, they gravitated to the “easy-street”. It doesn’t take much for an uneducated mind to figure where to get hand-outs, even at their peril. Therefore, Dumocrates have been buying votes for decades. Why this surprises everyone is a mystery to me, unless everyone was on Mars for the past 60 years. Dumocrates buy votes! Hello!

          Though I have no party affiliation, when I think of the differences, I think I would rather have my lawn mowed with CHEAP LABOR, than to GIVE AWAY even one shingle of my roof. Eventually, I won’t have a roof! That is the way of Dumocrates, who also in this illustration, don’t have mowed lawns either, because they are too busy paying for repairs on their roofs, and other damages caused by not having much of a roof. In other words, thier standard of living goes to the crapper.

          (By the way, I think the other party should be called Republicrates. They have not been exactly stellar in how they govern either. Nor am I a Libertarian, too much anarchy for me to stomach. Some people just need to be govern by default. They are train wrecks on two feet without any help. Communists…Naaah, I like my independence and freedoms too much.)

          It takes me back to my own premis, that the illegals, the handouts, and all that is wrong today, would be a non-issue IF the legal voting public was more intelligent at voting. It is the politician that is the culprit and the sleeping public is at fault. It is only what we tolerate that makes us who we are and the issues we must face – eventually. The bleeding-heart generations do not understand the rule of real governance, at thier own peril.

          The model to govern a nation is by the house/home we govern. If the house fails, the government will fail. If the house is well managed/governed, the government will do like wise by its example: Screw up the budget and see what happens to your household. Leave your doors and windows (borders) open for any burgler to come in and see what happens to your home, etc………… Ever hear of a home being raped?! Your nation is.

          The wise will heed this warning.

    • Johnny depp

      OK, perhaps they did help Obama get elected. I just need to remind you that our system says that no one is guilty until proven so in a court of law. Can you prove that illegals help Obama. If not, why are you trumpeting a lie as a fact. You intelligent people demand everything to be science proven to take it as a fact.
      Very typical of the so called American, you demand what you can’t deliver. I have not seen your scientific studies published in any major, reputable, and serious scientific publication. Your reference to legitimate Americans also leave you out, unless you descend from the native Americans who were here thousands of years prior to the arrival of any white-man to this lands. Every time a foreign force invaded the Caucasus territories, they were spelled. Only in America it happened that the invading force try to totally exterminate the natives. And you as a God believed given right and a descendant from those people, demand the so called illegal to just disappear. I don’t think anything has changed since those days. You might as well want to see all of those with a different skin color be killed. And to make things worse, If you ever went to school, Did they teach you that America forms the land from Alaska to la tierra del fuego? Or maybe you just forgot, Alzheimer seems to be around us so much these days.

      • Joe H.

        Johnny,
        Just because the man has not been proven guilty of a crime does not mean that the charges against him are lies!!! It just means they have not been proven in a court!!!

      • http://n/a Louis

        Very well said Jonny depp,…This immigrants country,immigration is part of our history as humans,.We have moved from place to place for centuries some times stealing,killing and invading,…This world was created for all of us as humans not just for white people,…Can we all live in peace????,…Apparently not,..Hate is going to take us down if we don’t stop this nonsense,..Peace for every one

        • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

          Louis;
          You seem to miss the point! It’s not about “legal immigrants” who we welcome into this country if they do the paperwork and follow the procedures to enter lawfully. The issue is ILLEGAL ALIENS. There IS a difference!

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        Let the remains of Kennewick Man be studied scientifically, and then we’ll see who got here first.

    • CS Key

      How about…you only get to vote if you MAKE money for our country, not TAKE it from the bottomless pit that is welfare!

  • Laura Nason

    These idiots haven’t got a CLUE as to what “illiterate” even means. It has NOTHING TO DO with speaking another language, although the phrase “English Language Illiterate” could apply.
    Illiterate =
    a. Unable to read and write.
    b. Having little or no formal education.
    Do these IGNORANT riff raff not KNOW that OTHER countries with MILLIONS OF PEOPLE read and write very well in their OWN language and that there are MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS who speak, read and write OTHER LANGUAGES?
    Anyone who would listen to people like this are Constitutionally Illiterate and they need a civics literacy test themselves. Not to mention the face that 99.9 percent of the Republicans and their followers are ETHICALLY ILLITERATE.

    • Karl

      Laura Nason, you are, by far, the most infantile cretin I have ever seen in print. If you love them so much, go join them, preferrably in their own country.

      • William Nealey

        seems to me she has a better handle on this than you do Karl. Tom was right he forgot to mention the stupid non immigrants who voted for obummer,

    • Robin from Indiana

      Laura…
      You are on the wrong website. Conservatives will not like your comments.
      Ted is not mistaken; he just used a wrong choice of words.

      • Joe H.

        Robin,
        It’s TOM tancredo not TED!!!!

    • myself

      In my job I come in contact with MANY immigrants, they are ILLITERATE.
      NOT because they cannot read and write in English, but because we send them every notice and memo, in their own language and when they still have no clue as to what is going on, I asked why and was told, they had no education and cannot read or write in ANY language. This makes them ILLITERATE !!!! They should NOT be able to vote in this country with just an X for their name!

      • Greg

        you should only be allowed to vote if you can prov e your an AMERICAN. You should only be a president if you can PROVE your an AMERICAN

        • Kgharts

          Reply to Greg

          Where did you get your education in logic. I have not seen this kind of logic in many years. Its simple. Its truthful. and its correct. If you are an American, preferably alive this time, and you can read a simple sentence, you get to vote. What a concept. Where’s the founding fathers when we need them.

          Obama,Pelosi, c-a-n y-o-u r-e-a-d m-y s-i-g-n l-a-n-q-u-a-g-e ?-? (errr, gesture)

        • Kgharts

          ADDENDUM:

          I have to prove I am an American to go across a border and back or join the military. This clown doesn’t have to prove he’s an American to be President of the most powerful nation in all history and access to the nuclear button. Go figure. Wheres the outrage!??

      • Ellen

        Oh I so agree! I like what Joe wrote and more of us agree with him then he thinks. I liked the Politically Correct and Gutless, it was stated so well.

        I am tired of SO-Called Americans thinking we should help every other country out, when our country NEEDS OUR ATTENTION !! Bring the illegal-immagrats in, we will go down together! I am not against Immagration (LEGAL) but letting others sneak, steal, kill, because we let them in the Door. With NO REAL EDUCATION, and then the higher ups were dumb enough to let them vote, yes just for the GREED of a lieing VOTE! YES KICK THEM OUT!! When they learn and KNOW HOW TO READ and SPEAK ENGLISH – THEN maybe? Our forefathers had to work and appreciate the land – THAT was the begining of FREEDOM and the UNITED STATES!

        I know and appreciate many people who are not my race BUT THEY ARE A CREDIT to our country! They have worked and earned their right to be here. I would only hope maybe if we would get a TRUE BLACK man in, but we did not. The story might of been diffrent. I am sick of this chip that some run around with on their shoulder, SLAVES. Who were the managers?? That was THEN, GROW up or go try a diffrent spot. We need to work together and SAVE OUR COUNTRY from the clutter that has gotten in!

    • Johnny depp

      I guess they disassociate from those white folks who can’t read and write either, or maybe the classify them as a sub-race.

      • Joe H.

        johnny,
        At least they were born here and have a legal stake in the outcome of our problems!!! If you respect these illegal mobs then go to Mexico and live with them!!!!

  • Karl

    Having worked for 14 years in the Middle East, I wholeheartedly agree with Ted Crancredo’s speech on immigrants, and CAIR needs to be closed down, it is just another arm of Islamic terrorism.

  • Joe

    ETHICALLY ILLITERATE???

    LOL!!!

    Political correctness has now progressed to the point that words like ‘racist’ and ‘bigot’ are no longer to be used to describe Republicans? LOLOLOL.

    I would not dream of painting all democrats with the same brush, but it has been my observation that the average liberal (who disquised as mile mannered ‘progressives’) all have one thing in common …. thinking processes that are about as deep as a bottle cap.

    • Johnny depp

      That equation places Schwarzenegger as the most liberal. Having taken one of the richest state to a bankruptcy state. Oh no, I forgot, illegals robbed all of the riches of the state.

      • Joe H.

        Johnny duh,
        And The Terminator let them!!!! Married to a Kennedy he could only be a liberal in republican clothing!!

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I absolutely agree. My brother-in-law is a prime example. Don’t bother to look at the credentials, just vote party after all the democrates are for the working man, the republicans are for the rich!!!! He has been a union man all of his life, worked 8 to 5 and the only thing that has been accomplished is sitting in front of the TV, watching sports and drinking beer. That is as far as the mentality goes. This is a profile of the democrat!!! To do anything else takes time and ou have to analyize. No way Jose.

      • Joe

        Sally,

        I had to laugh at that. I spent 15 years in a labor union myself. For 15 years I got lambasted for not “voting my paycheck” by voting for union endorsed candidates. I always explained it this way: Yes, it is true republicans want to keep wages low. It is also true that democrats want me to make all the money there is, so they can jack up my taxes, take it from me, and give it to somebody else. No matter which party de what promises or is in power, the blue collar worker ends up with the same empty bag. Therefore, my paycheck is not an issue at election time. There are other issues such as national security, whether or not we will remain free or become subjugated to an oppressive government, capitalist or socialist.

        The difference between capatalism and socialism is this: Give 20 capaitalist people a silver dollar, lock them un in the same room and come back 24 hours later and one person will have 20 dollars and 19 will be broke. In the socialist system, give 20 people a silver dollar, lock them un in the same room and come back 24 hours later and one person will have 20 dollars and 19 will be broke.

        On the surface, both seem unfair and there is no obvious difference. But if you look a little closer, you will find that in the capitalistic system, we know who has the 20 dollars and we have the right to get it back. In the socialistic system, both the knowledge of where the money is and the right to get it back have been legislated away.

        I did not attend union meetings. They asked me why, was I anti-social? I always said, “No, I am anti-socialist”

        • Kgharts

          Thank you Joe for stating your facts correctly. I am not a union man, nor do I believe unions are a panacea for all ills. The only reason unions exist is because of management mismanage. Unions are not needed in well managed companies. So its a wait and see game. This idea of “card check” is bizzare. It is blatantly arrogant and transparently corrupt and greedy.

          That said, you have elevated my perception of union workers (not the leadership). If there are many like you, there is reason for hope.

  • miffed american

    Cair is everywhere trying to desimate our COUNTRY ! yes, our country and our way of thinking. We won’t have it and We will not submit to their diabolical,evil plans they won’t win because Americans will rise up against them in a way they have yet to see. CAIR in one words ” SUCKS “

  • Shirley

    When my daughter moved into our area and went to register to vote, she was not asked for one piece of ID. NADA So goes to show anybody can register to vote, in our area we have to have 2 forms of ID to check out a library book or rent a movie, but not to vote. Is that ridiculous or what?

    • Joe

      Yes, Shirley, it is rediculous.. and it gets even worse.

      What I discovered with my own daughter is that while she may not smoke, or drink, or enter into a contract if she is under the age of 21, while I am responsible for all her basic needs and can be held accountable by the state if I fail to provide for her (which I would never do, I love my daughter) at the age of 16, she can be targeted by Muslims from foriegn countries for relationship because in most states the ‘age of consent’ is only 16. Parents are held accountable for every aspect of their childs safety and security, but when it comes to whether or not they can prevent an anchor baby from being born on American soil, they are completely over-ruled by our own laws. Parents can do nothing about this. It would violate her ‘rights’. While we are busting granny at the airport for hat pins, muslims are invading our country through our virgin daughters, and our laws are on their side. Yes, the world has gone insane.

      • Johnny depp

        I guess it’s easy for our government to control the elections in foreign countries than our own.

        • Joe

          hmmmm…..

    • William Nealey

      it’s absolutely STUPID.

    • http://www.breakingnewsjournal.net&www.popham08.com Popham

      You hit the nail on the head Shirley.

    • Kgharts

      I agree. See my reply above March 1 Kgharts Addendum. The Gatekeepers are asleep on duty. Vote them out!

  • http://geopie41@yahoo.com Dr. Emory

    I’d vote for Tancredo. Check the facts and see what the level of education is of legal and illegal immigrants … not very good. And anyone that voted for Obama is an illiterate idiot. As Glenn Beck says … you can’t argue with idiots.

  • miffed american

    Our four Fathers encouraged the process of education mostly because they wanted educated voters. We had a bunch of idiots vote for a idiot who isn’t even a freaking citizen and who has lied over and over. We have has the great communicator and now we have the great Usuper.

    • Johnny depp

      Having four fathers must make very intelligent. I guess it is not OK for a black illegal to be president, but it is for a white one because the other guy is a Panamanian.

      • Joe H.

        Johnny,
        you are getting worse and worse. McCain was born on a military compound to U.S. citiaens!!! He is a natural born American citizen!!! You need to study your naturalization law a little better!!! And NO! it isn’t OK for any illegal to be president of this country!!! If that does not suit you, you can always go live in a country where it IS legal, although I think you will find them scarce!!!

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        You are an uninformed idiot because you have no idea what you are talking about and didn’t look into it either. That is what I absolutely love about left wingers. They just mouth and mouth and mouth without any proof. Mccain was born in Gorgas Hospital on the Pacific Side of the Isthmus which at that time, the whole Canal Zone was owned (leased) by the US Government. It was the only money making entity owned by the US Government that made money so therefore Your president Jimmy Carter gave it away. When we took over the jungle infested with mosquitos and build the canal, we also had to provide electricity, water, everything right down to the milk our people drank because the lazy Panamanians had nothing to offer. We also had to import workers from Jamaica, Barbadoes, etc., to build the canal as again because the Panamanians were too lazy to work. So get off it that he was Panamanian. If you will kindly read what an American President must be, is both parents have to be American Citizens which McCains were as his dad was in the American Military. I doubt very seriously if my son could become president as we fit the first category that we were both Am. citizens, but being born on American soil we do not, as the American hospital in Ankara Turkey was not on American soil and our son has a State Department birth certificate. At least he has one. When he went into the military as was transferred to Japan, the passport department would not accept his State Department passport and I had to prove he was a US citizen by sending in my passport where he was added as a baby. They told him then to never ever let his passport expire as that was his only proof and then we have this idiot who won’t prove anything. Makes me sick as my stomach.

    • CK

      Well, I couldn’t help but laugh out loud when I got here. Bubba, there really were more than “four” fathers you know. The English used here is abysmal. If you learned it in our schools, I’m ashamed of the educational system that passed you. If your use of language is any indication of your mental acumen, then most of you should be prevented from voting as you suggested for others. This page is highly racist, libelous, crass, uninformed, prone to gross overstatement, run-on sentences, misspellings of common, simple words, awful punctuation–well, the list is nearly endless. Here we see the reasons our country is in such sad shape in the first place–idiocy.

      • Tryagain55

        CK

        Your obvious intellect will be lost on the small closed minds here.

        • CK

          Well, there is one bright spot. Blogging is keeping them off the streets…so far.

  • http://joecael@netzero.net joe

    he forgot the biggest group of illiterates that elected him, (words removed for offensive content)

    • Joe

      uh… not the same Joe, but if you are refering to my previous list of those who elected Obama, I think that if you look into who comprises some of those I did name you will see that I did cover that base too. I just didn’t label them directly, but you can see them in there. The fact is, I really do have great respect for some blacks that I know and saw no reason to make skin color an issue when the phrase ‘socialist/commimist wannabes’ is much more inclusive any way in a political discussion. Socialist/communist wannabes are like any other ideological people .. they come in all colors. As a matter of fact, they have even advanced the whole concept that ‘diversity is our strenght’ which of course is rediculous. What strength we used to have we had because we were united in fundamental ideas and principles. We no longer are united and that is the source of our weakness. Our ‘wonderful diversity’ if seen ideologically rather than superficially (skin pigment bases) is killing our freedom, killing us, killing the best hope for mankinds entire future.

    • Robin from Indiana

      Joe… As much as I feel we have an elitist president in office and his governing skills leave much to be desired, you cannot lump all black people into a racists comment as you did. This administration and their blunders are NOT about race! Barry is a mulatto. He is as much white as he is black. There are a lot of black people who are not happy with him. Your comment was uncalled for.

      • Joe

        Robin, just as a point I would like to see noticed, there are two people here posting under the name of Joe. I am the long winded one, and I agree with you. I would not conclude that all blacks are illiterate any sooner than I would conclude that all whites are racists. This country is in a lot of trouble and if we have any chance at all of comming out of it on top, we are going to have to honestly begin to consider character above color. That, of course, has always been the ‘conservative’ notion, that all men are created equal (women too)

        • Joe H.

          Actually Joe there are three of us. There is joe (lower case j) there is you (uppercase J0 and there is me joe H!!!

          • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

            I’m waiting for someone (of, most likely, WW II vintage) to sign in as: “Cup’a Joe”. By the way, I have a question: What do Barack Obama and Tiger Woods have in common, and why is it so different? Answer: Tiger Woods calls himself a “Cablasian”, and BrObama is a “Cablafrican”.

          • Kgharts

            Whew! Tho’t I was dealing with a multi-personality or som’thin. Ok. I will try to keep it straight Joe-JO-Joe H, and of course “Cupa-Jo” if you are out there….. :}

  • Norm

    It’s not only immigrants who are illiterate, we have plenty of Americans who are in the group. Read some of the “off the wall” comments in Bob Livingstons’ blogs.
    You don’t honestly believe literate, thinking people would support Palin, Cheney, and the 3 stooges, do you?

    • Joe

      as opposed to supporting Obama, Pelosi and Ried (the three commies)? not much of a choice, huh?

    • Robin from Indiana

      Norm… Your comments would be more appropriate on a liberal website. The conservative movement is gaining ground. Barry will be a one term president. I believe he was only allowed to be put in office to wake the American people up! God allowed him to open the eyes of the voters to see how far our great country has plunged into ways that will cause our country to fail. God willing we will be back on top again.

      • Joe

        hmmm… funny, I felt the same way about Bill Clinton … hmmm…

        • Norm

          Joe
          With Clinton we had “black ink” to the total panic of the neocons. It’s hard to be critical of a government running a profit with moderate taxation.

          • Joe

            With Clinton we had lies, more lies and damn lies in the economic aftermath of the Reagan years that Clinton was unable to completely reverse inspite of his best efforts. George Bushes greates mistake was to act on intelligence gathered during the Clinton administration concerning Iraq. Frankly, I have to concede in the clear light of hingsite that this was kind of dumb. Any one who would believe anything that came out of the Clinton administration is … well… kind of dumb.

          • Johnny depp

            That equates to believing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction not being dumb. So put differently, not being dumb equals to intelligent and being intelligent equals to believing in Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

      • Norm

        Robin from Indiana
        Do you really think God is a right wing extremist?

        • Joe

          No, I do not think God is extreem about anything, other than the difference between right and wrong. Consider if you will the absurd idea that God were to vote in our national elections. Would he vote for candidates that support abortion, homosexuality, redistribution of wealth, governmnet control and intrusion into personal lives, government policies that undermine our national security, policies that leave our borders open to any and all who wish anything from a chance at a better life to bombing us with nukes? Of course, if he didn’t, no doubt he would be labled a right wing extreemist, homophobic, sexist, racist, jackbooted nazi thug by the average “liberal” or ‘progressive’ or what ever is un-american.

          • Norm

            Joe
            right wing extreemist, homophobic, sexist, racist, jackbooted nazi thug….. your words.
            Add war mongering, hypocrite, intolerant, self-rightous, gun packing,
            anti constitutional, religious radica, just to name a few.

          • Joe

            Yep, Norm, I agree. Those are the other names I get called for not kissing the right fannies in America these days.

          • Johnny depp

            Only that God did not established not taking the forbidden fruit as a law. He let them chose, and they had the consequences, but how the choosing of others affect you? Do you have to pay because your neighbor is stealing from your local store? I guess you can dictate the penalties for those who chose to steal, but you can’t dictate for a thief not to chose being one. I hope you can see the difference.

        • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

          Norm. Since when is “gun packing” to protect you and yours from murderous, thieving thugs wrong? You may live next door to your local constabulary, however, for the rest of us, “When seconds count, minutes don’t matter”. (Ever dialed 911 in a hurry?)

          • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

            addendum: “That which does not kill me, makes me stronger.” However, “That which does not kill you/them, makes me reload”. (Lighten up, Bubba. It’s not the average law abiding gun owner you should be worried about. It’s the lawless who break your laws with complete disregard for the rights, safety or lives of their victims that you should have in your sites as well.)

          • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

            Sorry: “Sites” should be “sights”.

      • Norm

        Robin from Indiana
        By the way, do you only like to opine with other people who agree with you? It’s hard to lose an argument that way. Facts not required.

        • Joe

          I have never met a liberal who has any respect for facts. It seems to me that facts and truth are to the average liberal what holy water and sunlight are to a vampire.

          • Norm

            Joe
            You may be wrong, but then, typically,you would never admit it.

          • Joe

            Well, norm, you may be right. I could be wrong. All I know is that when the average liberal tells me the sun is shining outside, I look for my umbrella if I need to go out.

    • blackhat

      Norm…To what “off the wall” comments would you be referring to? Perhaps the comments that people want their govt to represent them? Or, maybe just the “off the wall” idea that tax paying Americans want their govt to only provide services to legal US citizens? That would be truly “off the wall”! Or, maybe the suggestion that we have a problem with the crime illegal immigrants bring with them? Since legal immigrants have primarily been “good” citizens that have a true desire to follow the “rules”, most people are not asking to curtail their rights, but many people have the “off the wall” idea that illegal immigration is not such a good thing.

    • bill

      You would say something stupid,you voted barry obahama.he walks on water,how about thunking before write something. don’t get stuck on stupid, “STUPID”

      • Tryagain55

        Isn’t spelling wonderful _ oh wait you wouldn’t know! There goes your vote!

    • Ellen

      SORRY….I was right along til I read PALIN! HAVE you ever lived in Alaska, had any dealings with Palin? Many were helped and she listened to the people and tried to help all she could. THE Media srewed her over. Maybe you jelous, cause she knows how to use a gun!

    • JeffH

      Norm the hack liberal. You only support the Marx brothers, Karl Obama, Groucho Pelosi, Zeppo Biden, Harpo Reid and Chico Frank.

    • Kgharts

      Norm:

      Its all about choices, Norm. Are you listening, Norm. Its all about choices.

      Obviously, you have made several bad ones. Your latest is commenting anything on this site. After one year later, I can readily see why you made this mistake too. Let me echo it for the reasoning challenged:

      Joe says:
      February 22, 2010 at 7:56 am
      as opposed to supporting Obama, Pelosi and Ried (the three commies)? not much of a choice, huh?

  • Tom Talmadge

    Let us support all efforts to proclaim America as the best ever nation on the face of this earth and Democracy the hope of all other peoples on the face of the earth also.
    If there are those amongst us that are so unhappy expressing ” freedom ” and the Liberty this country represents then let them leave to a place that most resembles the tyranny and government intervention they require to be Happy in the experience life.

  • Jim Robins

    The infrastructure of America is being challenged and eroded by these radical factions that are not loyal to America. Many, if they are Nationalized American citizens swear allegiance to America. Then they turn their allegience from America back to their native country.
    We must ban together and support the Constitution. CAIR, is one of those organizations, that if J. Edgar Hoover was still alive, he would have the FBI right in the middle of that organization. We must fight to keep our culture balanced and a christian society as it was founded to be. Though this country was founded on christian principles, it was also tolerant to a certain degree. Freedom of religion allows you to practice your believes, but not to attempt to impose your beliefs on everyone else. We must over turn the “hate bill” that was pass by Congress. It has opened the flood gates allowing all of these radical fringe organizations to have some degree of legitimatize. What we are seeing now will only increase if we as Americans do not ban together and demand that our elected officials over-turn these bills that allow these things to occur.

    • Norm

      J. Edgar Hoover was a power hungary, arrogant little homosexual. Your hero?

      • John

        Norm – After reading your posts on this site, I can truly say that you are an excellent example of Glenn Beck’s Arguing with Idiots. You have all of the qualifications.

        • Norm

          John
          If Glenn Beck argues with idiots, it’s bound to circular argument.

          • Doug

            Norm come out and play Norm! To bad no one wants to play with Norm he looks to much like a liberal fat ass! Come on Norm go play with your other commie liberal friends where every one feels at home and nobody has to loose or work for living everything will be given to you from Barry and the imposters!

          • Joe

            any argument with an idiot is circular… take arguing with a liberal for example: they can not get off the racist, nazi, homophob, sexist, paternalistic, warmonger kick in their discussions other than to make a point of their own. They immediately return to those claims if the other guy does not copitulate. The result is that the argument goes round and round, kind of like a dog chasing his own tail. Of course, if the dog should catch his own tail, what does he get for his trouble? A mouth full of hair. Conclusion: It is not generally worth the time, trouble and effort to argue with a liberal.

      • Skipfoss

        NORM J.Edgar may have been power hungry or even a queer but he kept groups like Cair,Muslims Jihadist Unions and commies in check by keeping them under survalince something we should double our efforts now. There would be less and less of these progressive liberal ass wipes and queers demanding more than they should be allowed to have ,like air ,water food and space

        • Winnie

          Skipfoss. “”liberals and queeers allowed more than what they should have?” You have such a terrible god if he thinks less of liberals and queers. The God I know loves all His children and wants for them to make the best choices for themselves and not have others make the choices for them. You have proven yourself not to be a child of God when you make out to be better than the liberals and queers (whoever they are). Your dogs treat humans better than you do. Go straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect the grace of God.

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        Norm. You said “J. Edgar Hoover was a power hungary, arrogant little homosexual.” How “Progressive” of you. Although I wouldn’t voice that opinion of Ol’ J. Edgar’s homosexuality in the Castro district of San Francisco if I were you. You might be treated to a new-fashioned “Progressive” arse-whuppin’.

      • coal miner

        Norm,

        I once ask the great J.Edgar Hoover a simple question.What was eating him?Ha ha ha

      • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

        Hey abNORMal;
        Your liberal socialists party champions homosexuals. You call conservatives homophobes every chance you get, but yet you deride J.E. Hoover as being a homo. So which is is norm? What ignorant statement are you going to make next? Seems to me you have a raging battle going on in your mind. Are you a homophobe in a homosexuals clothing, or a homosexual in homophobes clothing? You need to find out soon because it will twist your mind worse than it already is……..

      • Kgharts

        Norm says:
        February 22, 2010 at 8:33 am
        J. Edgar Hoover was a power hungary, arrogant little homosexual. Your hero?

        You had me right up to the place where you ended the first sentence. Now shut up.
        Try talking with your ears and eyes for a change. Some parts of your body that don’t do as well. I am beginning to think you moved some parts to the lower reaches anyway. It must get lonely up there in the dark place. No, take that back, you always have the ‘bama, Pelosi and Reid up there with you. Y’all have fun, ok?

    • Ellen

      Jim Robin Your are a GOOD person! True words you spoke and we need to work together on CLEANING up OUR COUNTRY. Pignet you don’t even notice until you smell a stinch. You notice idiots the same way.

    • Tryagain55

      This you say as christians attempt to force their Christian beliefs on all who live in this country.

      • Kgharts

        Hey, NO One is trying to Force any christianity on you. If you don’t hear the message, how would you even know it exists. They are like ads on TV that you readily listen to hour after hour with no complaints.

        No one forces me to go to church (which I rarely go). No one forces me to believe(which I do). Quit playing the victim. A wise man will listen to all sides and make up his own mind. Only a fool will not hear anything and complain about all the noise.

        I have had many encouters with door to door knockers, street “vendors” and all manner of solicition, but never had one force me to do anything. Hopefully you will do better as a butterfly, because christianity offends you. Maybe you could just pass GO and go directly to Hell.

  • Lyn

    I’m a firm believer in the voting process. Tancredo is absolutely correct in his statements…And by the way, haven’t any of you ever considered that our country may not be financially broken IF the Democrats hadn’t passed laws that NO SS# REQUIRED to buy a home….our healthcare may not be broken if hospitals were not REQUIRED TO TREAT ILLEGALS FOR FREE and deliver their gazillion anchor babies for free….our education system may not be broken and our American children deprived of a GOOD PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION if we were not required to educate every c hild of illegals….we work hard all week to teach them English, they go home everynight speak spanish, come back to school the next day and we start back at square one.
    Americans must DEMAND the government give ALL ILLEGALS six months to get out of our country then start STRICT ENFORCEMENT. Then after we get our country back to it’s greatness we can CONSIDER an immigration overhaul.
    Simple, isn’t it?

    • Joyce

      I agree with you. Our government requires that immigrants learn our language, our history and be prepared to become AMERICANS. Now, all these foreign people, including the illegals, come to American and want US to change. They want to keep their loyalties to their countries and make Americans conform. It’s just not right, but our legal systems and all the junked up organizations, make AMERICANS the last ones with rights.

      • Ellen

        Oh I so agree! YOU should not EVEN CONSIDER being an USA CITIZEN until you are old enough to work, think, and buy your own groceries with your own money.
        To see all the lying, sneaking across the border to have an innocent baby so WE CAN PAY for it all, and CALL THAT BABY AMERICAN – I DON’T belive in this twisted thinking! If we pay then the babys are not really theirs?? SO WHY DO they think OUR money is theirs? Look what this thinking has done to our Hospitals and Medical in the BORDER states as well as any other area they have creeped into.

      • Joe H.

        Joyce and lyn,
        The solution is simple. fine any employer that hires an illegal and make it a hefty fine. Fine any person that rents to an illegal and that also, should be hefty. when the jobs and living quarters dry up they will self deport!!! Any found here after that would be sent to Sheriff Arapaio and make them work the whole time they are there!! After that DEPORT!! Patrol the border and kick assets when found!!!

      • Kgharts

        Bravo! and say it again – only louder!

    • myself

      Lyn. I AGREE. Couldn’t have said it better myself, the only thing I would add is this….DO AWAY WITH THE TERM OF ANCHOR BABIES!!!! If a child is born on American soil to an ILLEGAL ALIEN, then that child can and should be deported along with the parent or parents!!!

      • Joe

        myself, the problem with that is that if an Islamic man gets into your 16 year old daughters head, the law says you cannot do anything about it. The age of sexual consent in most states is 16. Believe it or not, last time I checked, in Mississippi, it was 14, unless she was not a virgin, in which case it was 12. Sounds insane, doesn’t it? I do not remember which state it was, but there was another one with a 14 year old age of concent law. So, if your own daughter becomes involved with a Muslim (take my word for it, American girls are being deliberately targeted for this very purpose) and has a chile, that child is an anchor baby, like it or not, and is also your own grandchild. So what is the answer?

        I personally believe that the answer is to rid ourselves of the socially liveral morons who made this possible, reform our sexual age of conscent laws and demand that any Muslim in the United States on a student VISA actively pursue an education or get the hell out of our country.

        The one tho got to my daughter came here on such a visa, got an associates degree, never returned to school, is now an American citizen. He had the aid and assistance not only finalcially and legally but all through the planning stage of what he did of his entire family (well, the men only).

        The good news is that my daughter finally wised up to him and my grandson lives with her and he is the greatest 8 year old kid I know, bar none. His father resides in another state. We have been fortunate.

        • myself

          Joe, Glad to hear that you had a happy ending, most don’t. I do realize that they are targeting young American girls, and the age of consent should be addressed. However, at the time of conception, He was not an American. He should have been deported then. How old was he at the time? Most of the Mexicans where I live are NOT legal. Neither parent. The anchor babies are considered citizens, so when they try to close a factory and send them all back to their homelands, the do-gooders yell ‘what about the poor innocent children???” Hence, they ALL get to stay here and live for free.

          • Joe

            She was 16, he was 26. We went through some reall crap over all this. She was the small time kansas girl who had never been anywhere, he was the exotic over the rainbow wizard who gave her attention that daddy could not compete with. During this time, she moved briefly into his house. She left when he grabbed her one day and began jerking her around. But, with the aid of a highpriced local lawyer, he was able to make the claim that they were common law husband and wife. She had that annuled and has since remarried. I do not know how he managed to secure his citizenship. Maybe the fact that his older brother, who introduced them at a resturant where she was working, was a Major in our own army. Any way, for a time, I honestly believe he could have placed a bomb under my own car and my own daughter would not have told me about it. He really got into her head. But, like I said, she got past that, has married, has another child by her ligitmate husband and I do have a great grandson who believe it or not, I can actually admire for his character even at his age. Of course, he grew up in my own house for a while and I was the man in his life. Not a brag, just an observation of a real blessing. He is still young, but if any one were to ask him, he is a christian. He is very intelligent and mature for his age. True, he is still a child, but not nearly as selfish and most kids. He has not had a spanking since he was 2 years old because he has not needed one. He listens to his elders and tries to understand what we are saying to him and why. He is able to talk with strangers as if he has known them for years and he was beating his grandpa at checkers when he was 5 years old.

          • Joe

            PS

            I tried to report all this to American authorities. Among other things, I did an online search trying to find an INS web site where I could report some of my concerns. All I was able to find was thousands of pages designed to help illegals remain in this country.

          • Kgharts

            Last info I got was that that law was changed for two illegals and a new born. This is not confirmed, just that I was told thats no longer valid to be a citizen when both parents are illegal when born.

        • Ellen

          Bless you and family and Thank-you for giving us the good outcome!
          How many tragic situations do we American people go though because these people have targeted ONE of ours JUST so they could slither into the country? To me when I travel I respect the country/and their laws, leave when I say I will leave..
          IF Washington D.C. wants to get real, CLEAN up illegal imagration AND THOSE who think they need to make us over into a Country we don’t even recogize or want. Our forefathers came to GIVE us FREEDOM and the power to think, worship of our own choice and be ourselves, NOT a dicktatorship!

          • Joe H.

            Joe,
            I think it was time to exercise your second ammendment rights when she was sixteen and he was twenty six!!!! He would have had a chance at his twenty virgins if it was me!!!

          • Joe

            Ellen, the sad truth is that Islamic people are not the only ones using Americans to gain access to this country. I have seen white south Africans do the same thing, and likewise get away with it. They, like the Islamics, were highly organized. They had a lot of help planning, plotting, targeting and gaining highpriced attorneys to meet their ends.

          • Kgharts

            Joe had it right. The Second Amemdment isn’t just for clay pigeons. Mess around with me or mine, and we will certainly see how well you grow carrots. Thats not idle talk.

          • Kgharts

            Ellen says:
            February 22, 2010 at 12:27 pm

            ……IF Washington D.C. wants to get real, CLEAN up illegal imagration AND THOSE who think they need to make us over into a Country we don’t even recogize or want………

            REPLY:

            Ellen, Washington doesn’t want to “get real”. Ever hear of planned obsolesence? If the situation get worse the people (in theory) will call for more government, change some laws, and more dictatorial decrees. It happened during the F. Roosevelt era. We are still living under that management because, for one, the income tax never went away like it was supposed to after the war. People paid a lot of taxes to help the unemployed, the War, and other programs, The tax rate never went down, just some got less, some got more. The rake-in remained the same to pay for even more government programs only the lazy wanted. I an not against helping the needy, but whose definition of needy are we using today?
            The theory could go bust on them, however. I don’t think Washington is prepared for another revolution of any sort.

    • Doug

      The school system has gone to crap due to the liberals teaching their sick doctrine to our children, along with the teacher unions who make sure lousy teachers keep their jobs through tenture! Unlike how most jobs work if you don’t due a good job you loose your job. Most teachers could give a rat ass about teaching kids its all about getting more raises. But when you take a public school and a private school the private school is able to teach the kids with a lot less money!

      • Joe

        Doug, I have to disagree… I have had many jobs in my lifetime. Over the last 40 years I have noticed more and more people doing a lousy job and getting away with it while the responsible people are required to pick up the slack. It is called “affirmative action”. The liberals have taken to calling themselves ‘progressive’. They have progressed us toward a work ethic that is killing us. Not only is is a major challenge to fire bad help, you can get your socks sued off for not hiring bad help in the first place. Inside the school system and outside of it as well, it is the age of “The Squeaky Wheel Gets The Most Grease!” Personally, I prefered the old days when we just replaced the squeaky wheel and the whole machine ran better, and at less expense.

        Common sense no longer exists. If it did, more people would have it. It was murdered by the liberals of the baby boomer generation who bitched about the older generation until they took the helm and then started complaining about generation X being all screwed up.

        • Joe H.

          Joe,
          I have found that it’s mostly union shops that keep the non-productive help than the non-union!!!

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Its been that way for a long long time. You don’t need a social security number to buy a home or anything else in USA. LOok at all the farms that the Arabs purchased thirty years ago and all the property the Japaneese purchased in California, etc etc etc. I don’t like the idea of any foreigners owning anything in the US, especially Arabs. We as Christains cannot even get a Visa to go to their countries, let alone purchase anything there even if we wanted. They even purchased one of our Ivy League Universities, which is an absolute no no.

  • Larry

    I think Mr Tancreado’s remarks are accurate as do most others who commented here. CAIR is believed to have links to terrorists groups and should not be taken seriously. Literacy does not have anything to do with denying someone their civil rights. Electing someone as unqualified and inexperienced as our present “leader” is more likely to damage civil rights than anything Mr. Tancreado can do. All of his Executive Orders and Czars give him huge powers. The Czars are unelected with the population having no idea of their level of power or even their political views until after the fact. Unfortunately, the Czars we know about have been shown to be *committed* socialist, communist or terrorist leanings and they are advancing their particular causes due to their high government position.
    As far as literacy and voting – why is it a denial of civil rights to expect people exercising their *vote* to have an understanding of what that vote might mean? The ability to vote openly and freely is uniquely American and is not to be taken lightly. Yet many don’t even bother. Those who do are often dead or otherwise unqualified to legally vote. I’d like to see people pass a basic civics test so they can understand the power of what their vote means.
    I agree many blacks elected obama – and unfortunately, the black drop out rate is astronomical. Perhaps, if education were tied to voting rights some would stay in school and receive the free education available to them?
    But it will never happen. The whiners like CAIR will stir up the PC crowd and stop any real reform.

    • Joe

      The question is: Who does the educating? Our educational system has become an abomination to rational thinking. How do we fix that?

      • Michael J.

        Joe,
        After reading your post on this site I see that you are a patriot. As for your question on education and how to fix it, it is necessary first to understand what forces you are battling against and knowing their true agenda before we as a people can begin to counteract what has happened. My suggestion is to search: “Yuri Bezmenov”. You will find multiple articles and videos which explain who the culprits are and their goals.

        You also mentioned “Political Correctness”. Most people take it for granted that political correctness is an American idea, when in fact it was conceived in a communist think tank in 1920′s Germay at a place called The Frankfurt School where Saul Alinsky plyed his craft after the school moved to the United States in the mid 1930′s.

        Today’s happenings baffle most conservatives and provoke comments from them like, “What kind of stupid fool would try to run a country like these idiots?”. Once motive has been explained to you, you also, will realize that this is not the work of fools or stupid people, but instead the intricately designed snail paced plan of our demise.

        P.S. Try to ignore Norm, he’s one of their’s. Part of their genius is that their victim’s don’t even know they’ve been indoctrinated, that’s why it’s imposible to reach them.

        • Joe

          Just having fun with Norm. As for the term ‘politically correct’ I figure that as just a precursor, along with the term ‘hate crime’ to the term ‘thought crime’ which will be defined as a hate crime against the state. I can’t claim to be well educated in the things you mentioned, but I do have a fairly good overview of what has been going on. I do agree, the liberals, whate ever else we may call them, are certainly NOT idiots. It is true that liberals always call republicans such things, particularly republican presidents. Have you noticed that no true conservative ever calls the movers and shakers in the democrat party ‘idiots’. There are lots of things I call them myself, because I see them as I do. But ‘idiot’ and ‘stupid’ are not things I would ever accuse either Clinton, Obama, Ried, Pelosi and their kind of being. I wish they were. If they were, maybe the good guys would win more often.

          • Joe H.

            Joe,
            I’m not stalking you really I’m not, it just looks that way. I have to agree with you on the stupid terms. Hate crime? If you perpetrate a crime against someone it sure isn’t because you like them!!! Just enforce the laws we have we don’t need a lot of new ones with different labels!!!

    • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

      Larry: It has already been proven that CAIR has extremist factions as it came out a few month ago about their funding of certain elements.

      The American public, unfortunately can be dazzled by just about anything; reality shows, American Idol, 24, etc. The dumb down of America by the media, I believe, has done their part. We have become a nation where video games and fantasy rule. Why bother with the facts or issues, just vote for the person who looks good or has the dazzle. They elected our last president who had just that but no experience and that inexperience has created a mess with the help of an incompetent congress.

      Last year, Jay Leno was asking people on the street some basic questions about the election. They did not know who President Obamas running mate was, know what state he had represented; one after another who didn’t have a clue but they knew the magic word “change”.
      Frankly, it was depressing and it would seem a civics test would be in order. Do we want the government, though, applying another rule or insist the schools do their job? The TV media; that is why they call it the “boob tube” and they certainly fit that nickname lately.

      To Laura Nason: I believe you are confused about the “Ethically Illiterate”. Have you been following what has transpired over the last year with this administration and congress? I would be ashamed to call myself a Democrat because their actions have been disgraceful. That is why people in your party, Independents and Republicans are upset and your elected members decreasing with every election. Republicans have done their part, yes, and I hope a third party emerges to challenge both and bring sanity back to our government.

  • Lewis

    I believe that ALL voters should be able to “understand” (read and write) English… and, be able to vote in ENGLISH. Somewhere along the line, I believe that I read that our ballots are printed in MANY LANGUAGES. It should be “English only” ( If you can’t read it or understand it… then, WHY are you voting in the first place!!)… THAT is the language of our forefathers and what the Constitution is written in!!

  • Paul Z.

    Every time a Patriotic American speaks up on the problems of Immigration, Legal or ILLEGAL, out comes the racism charges. America can not continue to absorb Millions of Immigrants without causing our country to sink to 3rd. world conditions. Illegal “trespassers” are a major cause of exploding health care costs, overcrowdwd and failing schools, overpopulation, loss of employment opportunities and wages, crime, etc. To ask Legal Immigrants to be informed in civic matters and knowing English is their duty if they want to be good citizens of this “once great nation”. As for Amnesty, NO, because what would they intend to do with those that enter the U.S. ILLEGALLY “after” another Amnesty, yet another????

    We had a “one-time” Amnesty in 1986, you see how good that worked! ! ! Now, just Enforcement of our Laws, a complete 2-layer Border Fence, and Mandatory E-Verify. Come LEGALLY or get out!

    • Joyce

      What scares me is, if the government doesn’t do something about all this, how much longer will it be before your everyday, hardworking, law abiding citizens start taking the issues into their own hands? I read the story of the farmer in Texas who was sued for millions by illegals crossing his property into the USA. He detained them until the officials arrived, then later the illegals said he abused them. A jury of AMERICANS rewarded the illegals to the tune of several thousand dollars. This guy said, he would NEVER call the officials again. He had “several thousands of acres of land. Good luck finding their bodies!”

  • Marilyn

    unless you were born here and contributed to the the system, you have no right to complain.
    Theres always a one way ticket back if you don’t like it!
    use it!

  • http://PersonalLiberty Lewis

    Our Forefathers wrote the Constitution in English… our ballots should be written in ENGLISH ONLY…. somewhere along the line, I read that they are available in many languages. If you cannot read and understand OUR language… you shouldn’t be voting! Discrimination? NO… just common sense! If I moved to another country, I certainly wouldn’t expect them to print a ballot in English just for ME!!

  • http://none Rita Smith

    Rita says:
    I could care less what CAIR says, in this case. We know their underlying motives. God Bless America. God please America…

  • hermannelson

    Three cheers for Ted Tancredo. At last someone has got the balls to stand up for the USA If CAIR dosen’t like it they can take the next plane to saudi arabia

  • marie davis

    we fix education be dollars following the individual and parents choosing the school for their children. today we are seeing rising numbers of black folks outraged by obama cancellation of charters in dc alone. also blacks are fastest growing number of folks pulling their kids out of school for homeschooling.also studies show that today a parent with no more than a high school diploma actually provides a better education than our public schools.
    2 points i assert
    1– we need to demand school choice for all possibly including tax breaks for homeschoolers.
    2– we need to help these black conservatives rising. they are so demonized and/or ignored by media –if we help them get air time and voice other black conservatives will begin to come out of the shawdows.

    • Joe

      If I may make a comment that any good liberal will be thorougly disgusted by, Amen to that, Marie

  • Joe

    How to fix the economy: Instead of spending 300 billion to creat a few hundred thousand jobs, lets do this:

    Take every American Citizen over the age of 55 who is in the work force. Give them 2 million dollars apiece (if there are 60 million of them, this would cost only 120 million dollars). But there are things they must comply with to get this money.

    1) They must quit their jobs. 60 million jobs open up, job crises solved.

    2) They must either pay off their existing mortgage or build a new home at no less than the median price of 250,000 dollars. Construction crises fixed, banking crises gets a huge shot in the arm.

    3) They must buy a brand new American car of their choice. Auto crises fixed.

    4) They must deposite all remaining funds in multiple bank accounts, no account to be greater than 100,000 dollars and live off the interest. Banking crises solved

    5) They must forfiet their social security entitlements. Social Security crises solved.

    Not enough, then give them all 3 or 4 million dollars. What the heck, these days we are so into taking from them that earn and giving to them that do not, what difference does it make? And what if there are 100 million working citizens over the age of 55 still working and you give them all 5 million dollars and up the requirements by making them give up any health care insurance and be ‘self insured’? That still would only be 500 million dollars and given that they will begin dying off in the next decade or two, do away with any death penalty taxes and their kids won’t have to foot the bill for over 300 billion dollars of debt.

    This of course is all a joke. Any one who reads it and thinks is is a serious conservative suggestion is probably a liberal. I’d be willing to bet it scares the socks off of them.

    • blackhat

      Joe, I think your math is off a bit…that would be 120 billion dollars. Not really disagreeing with you, as 120 bil is just a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions we are spending for…ummm..something…I am not sure what…but, 120 bil is still just a drop…

      • blackhat

        120,000,000,000,000…this is what it would cost to give 60 million seniors 2 million each…

      • Joe

        I never was good at Math. Like I said, it was just a joke any way. I was a little afraid that someone out there might take it serious. I mean, I only put as much thought and research into it as I figure the democrats, or president put into their health care proposal

        : o )

      • Joe

        well, it might be a little cheaper if you didn’t allow anyone in washington DC to do the paperwork.

        • blackhat

          heck yeah! according to them we would SAVE 120 billion!

    • myself

      Hey Joe,
      Joke or not I thought this was great, especially since I just turned 55 !!!

  • Idiots All Around Me

    CAIR is a terrorist organization – and they have sworn to destroy America from within – and now they have their puppet Obombination protecting them!!

  • Phil

    Too Funny….. First off, it’s Tom not Ted….most of the rightwing racist posting on this site couldn’t spell ” Cat ” if they were spotted the C & T…You supported Bush who could hardly speak English and you Love Sarah “you Betcha” Palin who has a brand new language most people haven’t figured out yet…..immigration is just another issue the republicans pushed down the road to blame the next administration for…

    • Joe

      To assume and state publically that ‘right wing’ and ‘racist’ are automatically the same thing is to indicate that one is capable of seeing through a keyhole with both eyes … at the same time. (duh.. that means “narrow minded” which is a prerequsite to being a good left winger

    • bill

      Guess you foregot about barry’s promtor,he goes nowhere without it, and if breaks he is lost.

      • Joe

        Yeah, and Sarah Palin was the wicked witch of the right because she had notes in the palm of her hand. Does any one need a better look at the hypocracy of the left? Well, just in case, I’ll offer another look at it. Remember when Palin was running for vice president, the fuss that was made over the expense of her wardrobe? Hillary Clinton was running around in 6000 dollar pants suits and the left had no problems with that. I thought on this for a while and considered that perhaps it was not really hypocracy. It’s just that no one was trying to get Clinton out of her wardrobe :o(

    • Doug

      Yes Phil the cat is real smart cat liberal cat or is that kat? Philly and read and write and do some simple multiplication but poor Philly can’t get a real job working for a company Philly has to work for the government where all liberal idiots end up!

    • JeffH

      Phil, just another typical liberal! Yada, Yada, Yada….

  • myself

    By having potential voters pass a civics test, you would get a much better QUALITY of voters. I agree that people of all races and ethnic backgrounds SHOULD be allowed to vote. Having a test would not change that. However the right to vote should also carry with it some sort of knowlege of what the candidate and issues are all about.

    I don’t know the exact numbers, because the government doesn’t even know how many immigrants are living here, but many millions of them come from underdeveloped countries with little or no education. Hence, they are even illiterate in their native languages and come here and put an X whereever thay are told to. This is NOT what is best for our country. CAIRO needs to butt out.

  • myself

    I also forgot to add that the TEST should be Given in ENGLISH. And ONLY IN ENGLISH.

  • blackhat

    We should all do a little research, just a quick check and you can quickly see that as late as 40 yrs ago there was much discrimination in voting that had to do with “literacy tests”. I am not a big fan of voting fraud, but I think we should all take a deep breath. And, yes, I observed first hand voting fraud and intimidation in the last presidential election in Va. We need responsive and strict non-partisan enforcment of existing laws, not “new” laws. I reported the three incidents I observed, and nothing was done. In the last episode I reported the “thugs” outside my own voting place asking people who they planned to vote for, the police took an hour to arrive, and then did nothing to stop them. I still voted, but some turned away.

  • Linda Whitaker

    I don’t care what CAIR says either! Everything is a race issue. This is about illegal immigration! Quit coddling the illegals and send them packing! No more anchor babies! Enough is enough!

  • gaetano

    breaker, breaker, MY TURN. Well, I live in a town of less then 15,000. 50% illegals from Mexico.Don`t ever tell me that republicans want the cheap labor. They make from 10 to 20 dollars an hour. They won`t work for less.And they pay no taxes.They can`t speak English and they could never understand politics if they could,so how do they know who they are voting for when they cannot understand the policies or even pronounce the names of those running for election. HOW? They are led in the booth and told what buttons to push by the legal Mexicans in the voting office. I have personally seen this. Now, when a illegal comes to Texas, they are picked up by coyotes,at the border. These people charge them up to 6000 dollars to take them to a certain destination where they wouldn`t be caught.So, I say let the illegals in but charge them $10,ooo to come in. That way the money can go to the government. That would probably be around 10 million dollars a day,going in to our economy. That is not peanuts. When they come without money, turn them around and send them back.In our town ,we have a county hospital, where it is packed with illegals every day,24/7.A legal person must wait hours for their turn because of this B.S. We in our town have figured out a way to get ahead of the line. We where a green jacket that says border patrol on the jacket and we carry a pen an paper and pretend to be writing while looking at the Mexicans. You should see how fast the line goes down as they exit,quickly.

    • Joe

      my mistake about the “cheap labor” remark if what you say is true. I grew up in El Paso myself and as a kid, I saw as many as three Mexicans working on a single minimum wage time clock. I guess times have changed, huh?

  • Tony Cherolis

    When I saw Your opening story was a piece that gave credence to a known terrorist financing,subversive and traitorous front ,I almost unsubscribed to your news letter.We already know the wierd girations of logic that these people go too in order influience our media,even our own Fox news network.Thankfully I checked the comments and saw that 95% of the responders see them for sham they are.I can`t wait to see the “cair” traitors tried.

  • http://gmail Lone Rider

    As for Obamee being a black President, no way his is 50% white blood line, 3/8 ‘s blackblood line and 1/8 arab blood line. But all muslim and 100% anti US and wants to be eleit EU standrads in the world. Wakr up America if you don’t more democrat changes!!!!!

  • Ken

    I know Tom Tancredo. It is TOM, not Ted as in the headline. He ran for president and was accused on being a racist,(he is far from it) because he was against ILLEGAL immigration. The same people that accuse everyone else of being racist or bigots voted for a half black, Muslim Kenyan/Indonesian that is likely not even a US citizen so they could feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves. And there goes the country….

  • USPatriot

    CAIR must spend a fortune on lawyers! They are suing over document meant for the shredder ended up the basis for the Muslim Mafia book which finds this is a front for the muslim brother hood. Game is up. You can’t take us over by force or lawyers.

  • Cindy Patton

    I salute Tom Tancredo for being BOLD enough to say what needs to be said! There are too many people who are voting who have no idea about our constitutional form of government or even what the issues are! They go to vote for whom they are instructed to vote, period. If one were to be quizzed on who the nominees are or what they stand for, many would fail to give an answer. ABSOLUTELY, there should be some form of civics and English language literacy qualification before someone is given the privilege to vote.

    Think about the fact that many individuals have become citizens while still being at a beginning English language level. How can they follow and understand what is being said by candidates for office well enough to be informed to vote??

    Thank you, Tom Tancredo, for bringing attention to this issue!

  • http://N/A Melvin Cownzowfski

    Mr. Tancredo was perhaps somewhat off base in the way he addressed the issue, but… in my view he’s not necessarily totally incorrect. If we will assume that Mr. Obama was indeed actually ‘elected’ as opposed to having been ‘selected,’ (this is a non-fact as far as I’m concerned) then his point is well taken, if not quite basic enough. It should, in my view, be a mandatory requirement for any candidate desiring to become a naturalized Citizen living in the U.S., to be able to read and write English and have at least a fair ability to understand what he/she might be reading/writing and/or hearing! Once one becomes (or is ‘declared’ a U.S. Citizen by those whose agenda is all too obvious to anyone with more than 2 brain cells operating simultaneously) a U.S. Citizen being required to demonstrate his/her ability to read and write somehow simply doesn’t quite seem right. But, maybe he (Mr. Tancredo) is right. The requirements for taking on any Civil responsibility (such as voting etc.)in the U.S. should be demonstrated by clear, substantive evidence of the voters ability to understand English and the original u.S. Constitution.
    The problem is that far too many illiterate and/or generally uneducated, or poorly educated, people from any number of other countries, most assuredly not just Latin American natives, but many Eastern European (especially the former Soviet Union) countries as well, are allowed to enter (sometimes & far too often illegally, in the strictest sense of the term) and live in the U.S. without ever having gone through a reasonable educational program to teach them not only the ‘required’ governmental, propaganda-type baloney Civics [which is surely taught in all U.S. Public Schools], (typically re-written by the powers that be at any given time to suit their goals and purposes) but a true history of what and who made America, at one time, a great nation. I personally know a number of native Russian speakers in Colorado who haven’t the foggiest idea as to what’s going on in their adopted country politically speaking. This does not necessarily make them bad people! This does make them much more easily manipulated into acquiescence with and to the will of those anti-American power brokers who wield power, much more easily because of ‘Citizens’ such as these.
    It wasn’t illiterate du-du heads who framed the original U.S. Constitution, or who fought to establish this once and great nation. It was largely relatively well or very well educated men who were surely, in my view, far brighter than most of the U.S. population is today. [Ever read any works written by almost non-English major College or University graduate in the last 15 to 20 years? I have! On average their English composition skills are pitiful at very best!] Those who established the U.S. were individuals who had considerable abilities not only to speak English, but in their clearly displayed superior skills in written English as well.
    So, perhaps what Mr. Tancredo said just didn’t quite reach the heart of the problem. The requirements for one to become a naturalized Citizen of the U.S. have simply been brought down to the level of inept speakers, writers and ‘understanders’(sic) of the English language. Not only this but far too many of these “naturalized” ‘aliens,’ no matter from which country their origin, haven’t a clue as to our nation, it’s real history or what it was based upon.
    All of the above is made with the assumption that present day Americans actually have “a real say” in their government and “a real choice” when it comes to candidates for higher level governmental office(s.) Personally, I do not believe this to be the case! I believe that the so called 2 party system in America could be very well compared to the opposite sides of an equally evil and equally crooked coin.
    Perhaps the best way to compare the Democrat party to the Republican party would be to compare 2 cars, both heading toward a precipice, the falling off therefrom will result in sure death for the car and the Nation. With the Republican driving his car at let’s say 50 miles per hour, while the Democrat driven car is traveling at say 80 miles per hour. The result is the same! …the sure destruction of our nation and our way of life!
    Sincerely, M.C.

  • eddie47d

    I would love that all Americans know their own history. We are a lucky nation to have such grand founding fathers and the vison they gave us. I still believe Tom Tancredo is a closet racist and an Islamophobic.We do have a NAAWP Party run by Klan master David Duke.Blackhat…. The majority of folks on this sight do want to curtail the rights of Muslim Americans. Tancredo is an Italian American,look at the God-forsaken crime that the Mafia brought to America. Is he responsible for their behavior,I doubt it. Where was the Irish American loyality in supporting the IRA? Before WWII there were huge Nazi rallies in support of Germany right here in America. Does that give all German Americans a black eye? Almost all immigrants in our past history were bashed or abused so I suppose we’ll never change. I Just believe we need to give people time to adjust just like past immigrants. Most Mexican Immigrants came here during the Regan/Bush/Clinton/Bush years not Obamas. So how about keeping your hate for Obama in perspective!

    • Joe H.

      eddie47d,
      If you truly believe that the majority of all Mexicans came here during Bush’s term then you are thick headed!!! There are between 15 and 27 million illegals in this country and part of them come here EACH year. during Clintoons, Bushes and yes, even Obummers too!!! Get your head torqued down right and get some common sense!!!

      • Joe

        uh… actually, illegal Mexicans have been coming here at least since I was a kid in EL Paso before John Kennedy got elected. It is not possible to put the blame of that problem on a single presidential administration. What we need to to is elect a president and a congress that is willing to do something about it NOW.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Yes, they all were and during WWII, Germans and Japaneese were all rounded up and put into camps until the war was over even if they didn’t have anything to do with the country the came from. But no, we cannot send back a muslim of course not or profile them of course not. Bull S+ + +. Off they go. Don’t know why they want to be here in the first place – their countries have all the wealth and oil etc. etc. However, when they leave, please take our president with you.

  • Jim Macket

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  • Carl F. Miller

    I’ve been saying the identical thing for the past 30 years that Mr. Tancredo said. Think about it! If you want a driver’s license in this country, you need to be able to read and write the English language. If you want a hunting or fishing license in this country, you need to fill out an application—necessitating that you can at least read and write the English language. If you want to be doctor, teacher, nurse, plumber, or participate in some other public activity “You need to be able to read and write the English language.” Do you get it, stupid? I doubt it! But get this! According to you Do-Gooders and Liberals, if you want to participate in one of the most important things (DUTY OR PRIVILEGE) in America (VOTE for the President of the United States) you should not be required to be anything or do anything except be able to breath and use one of your illiterate fingers at the polls. Three generations of idiots is enough! Mr. Tancredo is absolutely right—we ought to make sure (REQUIRE) that “anyone” who wants to vote in this country can at the very least, spell the name of the candidate! The Do-Godders and Liberals have ruined this great Nation, and they will continue to ruin it so long as idiot groups such as the ACLU and CAIR enjoy the freedom to promote their Un-American activities. If Mr. Tancredo runs for President of this great Nation; he has my VOTE. C.F. Miller, Pittsburgh, PA

    • Rick Quill

      Carl, I would just like to add to your “hunting license” example by also pointing out that, to the best of my knowledge, any signs that are posted pertaining to hunting are written in “English”. At least here in Minnesota….so far. With that said it only makes sense that anyone who applies for a hunting license MUST ALSO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST READ ENGLISH. God forbid a non-English speaking hunter should enter an area posted “no hunting”, kill someone’s livestock by accident, get arrested for trespassing to only turn around and successfully sue the landowner for millions because the sign wasn’t written in a language the hunter is literate in. You know the saying….ignorance of the law is no excuse. And speaking of Minnesota….now we may as well include the Somalian language in everything printed/posted, etc. Granted it has already gotten to that point with anything that is related to government assistance, handouts and items like driver’s licenses. But pretty soon, if Obama and his ilk have their way all natural-born American citizens will all have to learn to speak and write Somalian if we wish to stay in our own country.

      • Carl F. Miller

        Rick:

        Please don’t publish your comments where the “illiterates” might see them. You don’t want to put any more ideas into their thick heads than are already there.

        As for the “posted” signs, about all I can say is that the owner of the land had better go out and buy a dictionary containing Somalian, Mexican, Urdu, Swahili, or even the common street language of some of our more literate citizens hanging out on the street corners in New York City, Detroit, Chicago, etc.

        As for those applyng for hunting licenses, I’m sure you’ve heard of an “X.” It seems as though our elected feeders, or should I say elected leaders, are not concerned about the reading or writing abilities of their huge and illiterate voter base, nor about educating that group of dolts. Keep them stupid is their motto.

        As for your comment regarding ignorance of the law, it reminds me of the guy who murdered his mother and father and then begged the court for mercy because he was an orphan.

        As for your comments regarding the language we will be forced to speak in the future, it should interest you to know that this is already occuring. I have received email messages in which the young writers have used expressions such as “K’ to mean OK; “B” to mean goodbye; “CY” to mean see you, and so forth. Unfortunately, this is occuring because parents, if that’s what you prefer to call today’s procreating animals, are not parents at all, but merely two animals of the opposite sex with no special talent or ability whatsoever, getting together and polluting the world with more of their kind. The more I think of this tragedy, the more I come to believe in castration and sterilization. My personal fear is that George Orwell had it right when he wrote 1984.

        Please take care.

        • Rick Quill

          OMG!! Too many great points to relate to in your post. Of course I was being sarcastic myself but there is so much truth to it all just the same. Basically tho I think you’ve gotten my drift on the subject at hand. By the way….See? I’ve already learned some of the “new” language being used by today’s youth. I actually learned it by watching some commercial by the LSM.

        • myself

          To Carl F. Miller,

          You brought up many good points in your post. True enough also is the fact that the government doesn’t really want to educate these dolts, like you refer to. The reason is because the dummer the voter, the more power the politician has over them. Ergo, the “dumming down of Americans’. Give them food, water and a doctor to help bring more yahoos into the world and you get their vote! Sad. Things really have to change. I think testing is the only way to get a semi literate vote.

  • http://DAANDREWS@IENDEAVOR.COM DELORES ANDREWS

    I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COMMENTS MADE HERE, BUT WE AS AMERICANS NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND GET THESE IDIOTS OUT OF OFFICE TO GET OUR COUNTRY BACK FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. IT IS SAD TO THINK WE LET THINGS GET TO THIS POINT OF FAILING OUR KIDS. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS READ HITLER’S BIOGRAPHY TO SEE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS FOLLOWING IN HIS FOOTSTEPS INSTEAD OF SOME OF US STICKING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND SO WE DON’T HAVE TO ADMIT WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING. BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, WE ARE ALL GOD LOVING AMERICANS AND WE ALL WILL HAVE TO LIVE IN THIS MESS UNLESS WE STAND UP, ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE. AND ALL FOR AMERICA.

  • Carl F. Miller

    I’m waiting to see the post from some Do-Gooder or Liberal saying I don’t know how to spell Do-Gooders. I understand; because it’s their natural nature! They can’t see the forest for the trees! And when they can’t dance—they blame the dance instructor!

  • eddie47d

    I would love that more Americans knew their own American History.Our founding fathers did a marvelous job in sending us in the right direction. I still believe Tom Tancredo is a closet racist and deffinetly an Islomophobic. We also have a NAAWP Party in America;run by the Klan master David Duke. Blackhat…The majority of folks on this sight do want to curtail the rights of legal Muslim Americans so that shoots your theory out the window. Tancredo is an Italian American,look at the God-forsaken crime the Mafia brought to America. Is he responsible for that. I doubt it! Jim Robins wants to know where where peoples loyality lies. What about the Irish Americans who supported the IRA? Before WWII there were massive Nazi rallies in support for Germany.right here in America. I do believe we need strict control of our borders and air space. That being said,we also need to give all immigrants a chance to adjust just like with immigrants in the past. Another thing about our Mexican immigrants almost all came here during the Clinton/Bush years not Obama’s. We’re all aware on this sight how much you dispise Obama but some of your issues are alittle lame. Throughout Americas history there have been great men and women that couldn’t read or write. Many inventors did great things without the ability to read .What about craftsmen who work with their hands but never learned to write. I would never deny them the right to vote. Everyone has different skills and learning abilities and we should respect their right to vote after 18yrs.of age.

    • myself

      eddie47d, It;s because of people like you that these discussions are even taking place at all. Since you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!

    • blackhat

      hey eddie…what’s your problem? I was merely suggesting that a return to some of the archaic voting laws that were finally struck down by the voting rights acts of the 60′s should not be turned back because of a knee jerk reaction to the problem of illegal immigration and voter fraud. If your pathetic ranting would slow down for a moment you might have actually learned something. But, typical liberal, when we might actually have common ground, you are wound too tight to actual listen and search for solutions. You would prefer to rave, scream and name call. You are pathetic.

  • Phil

    Doug, after my 3rd attempt at trying to read and understand your post I’m assuming now you’re attempting to make my point….

    • Rick Quill

      Phil, I have to agree with you. I, too, after reading then rereading his post several times over all I could discern from it was gibberish.
      Pronounced as ‘jib-er-ish’ and basically meaning “incoherent rambling” just in case anyone else is having a literacy problem on that particular word.

  • Skipfoss

    What in the hell is a United States senator doing as an officer in a forgein organization? Shaw should be removed as a senator and investigated for working for a forgein gov while holding a senate position sounds to me like we have a double agent in our government ,because CAIR has been sited as an un-named co conspiritor for providing Hamas and other terrorist groups with funds and info against or government.And furthermore Tancredo is totally right these sorry Muslim Jihadist and their supporters should all be rounded up and deported and Shaw should be in prison for Treason eddie 47d not everyone that speaks up in defence of our country for not allowing this crap in to vote when they have no right to is not a racist. I feel that our borders should be closed with eguipment that kills to keep them out and if they want to come here then come in through leaglly,I beleive that every time that a forgeiner applies for a job he or she should be checked out and if they are here ileagly then deport them and their family if they are not legal and if they are ilegal and have a kid born here send it back with them because they are illegal to they have to have to parents that are legal citizens to be considered a legal ,just because they were born here does not make them a citizen they were born here while their parents commited a felony

  • Phil

    By the way… Who’s the republican partys leader these days?…. I really think Michael Steele would be your perfect candidate to Run aginst President Obama… Then I can call him Mikey, you rightwing Cave people seem to think it’s real cute calling our President Berry…just another example of the hate and distain you have for the country and the office of the President…

    • Joe

      What the heck, the left enjoyed calling George Bush a Nazi, and I don’t think a day passed by in eight years that some left wing loud mouth wasn’t calling him a liar for having acted upon intelligence gathered by during the Clinton administration and the conclusions of every single democrat in congress that Hussien had weapons of mass distruction, which you still deny that he had although it has beeb proven that he did and the whole world knows he used gas on 100,000 Kurds at the end of the first Gulf War.

      What I was never able to understand was this: Even supposing the George Bush was a stone cold, bald faced liar, after eight years of Bill Clinton, why would that bother you guys? I would think you would see that as a mark of a true American Hero.

    • blackhat

      I guess that makes Obama’s family hateful and disdaining as Barry is what some of his family members call him. Kind of like call a William – Bill or Timothy – Tim…

  • Myself

    Tancredo’s right. Always has been.

    • myself

      Very curious. Though I do agree with Myself lol (capital M) …I did not post this, as my name here is all lower case! Hmmm…

  • Carl F. Miller

    Mr. Trancredo’s remarks are well-placed. Seventy-five percent of the people who do vote in this country are not qualified to vote, nor should they be allowed to vote. Further, a hundred percent of the illiterates who voted for O’Bumma (Yeah, I know)should never have been allowed within a thousand feet of a voting place. If this lax and idiotic trend in voting continues, we are going to end up being governed by a group of incompetents and degenerates resembling the types of illiterates being permitted to vote. A wise man once said “You can only expect what you inspect.” If we do not get off our fat duffs and begin inspecting our voting requirements and demanding that only educated and literate Americans be permitted to vote, then we should not go around flapping our gums about how “the illiterates” were the reason O’Bumma (Yes, I mean bum) got elected. If we don’t get off our fat asses and get involved, this nation is going to become exactly like a pot of soup to which an excess of ingredients has been added. This great country was once called the melting pot of the world, but I think it has now become the Shit Pot of the world! We now have polluting our great Nation every type of decrepit and unsavory individual imaginable, and our pot is overflowing. We ought to put the lid on the pot! It’s time we took back what our forefathers fought and died for. But, don’t tell that to the illiterates or the ACLU or CAIR, because they say O’Bumma is going to take care of them all. He’s going to pay their mortgages, their car payments, their rent, their utilities, their pimps, and who knows what else. However, you don’t hear any of them demanding that O’Bumma give them money to go to school or college to learn how to read and write the English language. On the other hand, I perceive that such a group needs no special talents to engage in their favorite activity—procreation!

  • Carl F. Miller

    As I review some of the posts on this site, it becomes obvious to me that they’ve been authored by the identical “illiterates” Mr. Tancredo is talking about. I have never viewed such inappropriate and incorrect syntax, punctuation and spelling as is contained in some of the postings. Let’s hope that such writers are banned from voting for anyone or anything in this great Nation, and better yet; from taking part in anything of importance!

    • Joe

      LOL .. guilty! I have made more than my fair share of typos and mispellings today

      • Joe H.

        Joe,
        not me I spull gud!!! My ponkchewashun is gud alser!! I kin sped red to!!!

  • http://windowslive.com C. Baumgardner

    You all have some valid points here, but I think there were a lot of elements at work to elect this deceitful man. Yes; muslims and illegals and it could be just the fact that a lot of black people wanted to see a black man as president. Not to mention , for some unfathomable reason a lot of women saw him as being attractive. Still can’t understand that; and also a lot of votes were probably bought here and there and yes; some voted who were just plain foolish.. But I digress,,, This CAIR org. definitely has a lot of hootspah! Not sure about that spelling, but they should keep out of our business. Meaning as ” We the people “, have a right to express our opinions in public; just as they have the right to attend to their own affairs. Of course those affairs are suspect? And I say: Bravo.. Tancredo… for saying what a lot of us have been thinking.. Don’t appologize.. The tea party movement should never appologize for what it truly believes. It’s time we stop taking this abuse and stand up to these usurpers of mankind. Ones who instigate things in order to remove more of our rights. And as for this Shaw; well stick it in your hat!
    We all know where he’s coming from .

  • JeffH

    Has anyone noticed how the MSM and left is starting their campain to discredit the Tea Party movement in America. Let them continue to incite the real patriots with their “bile”, it only makes patriotism stronger and weakens their hold on the fence sitters. One doesn’t need to be a Tea Partier to be a patriot, one just need to be a true American patriot.

    • blackhat

      JeffH…”starting their campaign”…hmmm…I thought they have been doing that since last year! LOL

      • Rick Quill

        You’re correct blackhat. The MSM, or as I will default to as the LSM, has been trying to discredit the Tea Party movement since it’s inception prior to April 15th of last year.

        • Joe H.

          Rick,
          Remember astro turf???

      • JeffH

        What I really meant is now they are really starting to bring the movement to the forefront rather than the passing slanderous shots.

        • Rick Quill

          Jeff I think what you’re actually referring to is the recent “redoubling of efforts” by the Whitehouse that has been recently reported on to counter the Tea Party and the Conservative base in the country. Along with those reports they also spoke about refining the communication process coming out of Washington and the Whitehouse in an effort to try and convince the American people that Obama’s version of healthcare reform would be good for everyone. On that note I’d just like to say that I lived in Britain for 4 years and was relegated to dependence on the NHS for any healthcare issues. Between my own experiences and experiences of Brits that I worked side by side with and became great friends with I can only tell you that their National Health Service is grossly inadequate. The U.S. is the last bastion of superb healthcare. If we go the route of Britain, Canada or any other nation with “socialized” medicine we will see an immense deteriorization of quality healthcare, a huge diminishment of services, and far fewer individuals entering into medical professions. All this at a much greater cost to the American taxpayer.

  • saveournation

    I think we should go back to the days when only male, landowners could vote. You may think me cruel for that statement but if you search your heart you know it would be better for the country.

    • libertytrain

      wow – not in my heart.

      • Rick Quill

        wow! Kinda makes sense. Let’s see, if only the male landowners were allowed to vote then their wives would not be able to vote. Now in hindsight, and having been married, I learned that my wife’s vote always cancelled my vote. Which in turn nullified and negated any purposeful voting process. So I guess in a way, doing as he suggests and allowing only the male landowners to vote that would make any voting process purposeful once again. But then again I could be all wet behind the ears here.

        • Joe H.

          Rick,
          Idon’t know about you, but my bed would get real cold if I supported that!!! HAHAHA!

          • Rick Quill

            Hey Joe, say it ain’t so……sorry, I couldn’t resist that one. Yeah my bed would’ve gotten cold too but I inadvertantly found a good solution to that problem. I found that my cat makes a good bed warmer. I just wait til after he falls asleep at night for about a half hour or so and then it’s nice and warm where he’s been sleeping. Pets are more than just great companions…..they also make great bedwarmers. ha-hah!

      • coal miner

        Liberty,

        I think he is talking about a oligarchy,rule by a few.Majority of the people in this country pay rent and the women outnumber the men.

        • libertytrain

          coal miner – I feel like I’m old enough to remember the lifestyle that he relates to. Perhaps you are as well.

          • coal miner

            Liberty,

            Is that a cheap shot?

          • libertytrain

            Coal Miner – not at all – just that you seem to have been around long enough to experience life, as have I.

    • Carl F. Miller

      Dear saveournation:

      I would hope that you do not sincerely believe in, nor would you support, any such campaign to accomplish what you “think.” The days when only male landowners could vote is long gone—and thank God for that! For example, my Mother earned her PHD from the Uiversity of Pittsburgh and taught college level courses for thirty (30) years. She also owns her home. Do you seriously think that she should be excluded from voting? I would hardly think so!

      As for thinking you “cruel”, for your statement, I would not go that far in opposing it. A better characteriztion of your statement, at least for me, would be that it is a misguided, ill-informed, and not well-thought out one.” Nevertheless, and as misguided and ill-informed as they may be, you certainly have a right to your expressions. Fortunately, I do not “think” you will be able to garner many supporters.

      Contrary to what you may think, it would not be better for America if ideas such as yours were ever to come to fruition. In fact, America would be much worse if that were to happen. If you were to “search your heart”, I have no doubt that you would discover the error of your statement. In fact, your Mother may be the owner with your Father of the home in which they reside. If you are married, your wife may be the owner with you of the home in which you both reside. In fact, this scenario can be carried to infinity. Certainly you are not thinking that your Mother, your wife, your sisters, your aunts, or any other intelligent and literate women, whether or not they might be landowners, should not be allowed to vote. I urge you to reconsider your “thinking”—and I “think” you will.

  • Carl F. Miller

    For all you Do-Gooders and Liberals contributing to the discussions on this site, as well as those of you who love and believe in O’Bumma, you all should start posting comments supporting his push for a “standing army” within your country. You do know about that, don’t you? If you and he succeed in your efforts to establish such a private army, then all that remains for you and your loved ones to do is await the knock on your door at 3:00am in the morning! I’m wondering what you will say or do when that occurs.

  • Carl F. Miller

    I sincerely hope that my comments regarding syntax, punctuation and spelling did not offend anyone reading them. If they did, I apologize, because offending others was not my intention. In fact, some of you may be thinking I am attempting to be a teacher or instructor, and that perhaps I should stop it. You are probably correct. In any event, my comments apparently attracted the attention of a few astute readers, and in so doing, may have provided a little incentive to be more careful when expressing their important thoughts. Whether or not you may think your thoughts are important, they are indeed important to inteligent individuals and to me, and I encourage you to continue to offer them on this site. Again, and if in making my comments I offended even one reader; I sincerely apologize, and look forward to reading more of your insightful comments.

    • Joe

      Marvin,

      Not offended. You were right. I saw it as a humorous but accurate observation. I confess, yes, I did wonder if you are a teacher. In my own defense, all I can say is that I learned how to type on a 1945 underwood typewriter and I am still having time with the need for a gentle touch on this keyboard. Other than that, yeah, sometimes, I do mispell words and I have forgoten what ‘syntax’ even means. While I was bad in math, I always got straight As’ in English and once won second place in the Texas State spelling bee. That was about 5o years ago, before I developed habits that snuffed out brain cells. The good thing is, one does not have to have an entire head full of brain cells to be smarter than the average liberal :o)

      • Joe

        Oops, I meant Carl, not Marvin.

        • Carl F. Miller

          Hi John, Oops, I mean Joe:

          Thanks for your reply. It’s interesting to me that you found my remarks to be “humorous”, for if there may be any humor in them, it escapes me. More importantly, I don’t mind you calling me Marvin, but please, do not call me “late for dinner.” Please take care, Carl

          • Joe

            Carl,

            I guess I found your remarks so humorous because I recognized the truth in them directed at me (perhaps not me specifically, but you did nail me pretty good) and I am a conservative. I do have a sense of humor and my skin is not overly thin. I hope you are not offended that I saw humor where it may not have been intended. After all, what we have here is only typewritten words. There are no smiles, frowns, tones of voices, faces or eyes to look into when we hear what we read. Any way, I do belive your remarks were an accurate observation, not just of myself, but a few others as well.

        • Carl F. Miller

          Hi Joe:

          If you saw some humor in my recent posting relative to syntax, etc., you might see a lot of it in Marvin’s posting. I’ve included his posting herein. Joe, when I read writings such a Marvin’s, I can’t help but feel sad and sorry for such individuals. What a waste of American taxpayers’ valuable time and money it was to pay for Marvin’s public schooling, schooling from which he gained very little or nothing at all. Even more frightening, at least to me, is the thought that Marvin “Votes.”

          marvin says:
          February 22, 2010 at 12:45 pm
          last time i looked we were american and ENGLISH was the spoken language but when you have an idoit in the white that said we all need to learn spanish and bowing and telling other nation we are sorry if we the english speaking legal american citizens allow this travisty to go on i say if anyone wants to come to my country and we the people are having to feed and school and pay for them to have babies and healthcare they could try to speak our language no more care no more acorn no more iseu one legal vote one legal english speaking american no more AMNESTY

          • myself

            To Carl F. Miller,
            Though I found humor in what you posted, I have to admit…
            I too am guilty. I worked with editors for a long time and should know better. However, sometimes my typing just can’t keep up with my thoughts and I end up making dumb typos :(
            Have a great Night!

        • Carl F. Miller

          Hi Joe:

          Aparently you read my message to Marvin. Marvin will need much more that luck if he ever expects to gain the support of intelligent readers for his ideas. It’s a damn shame!

          • Rick Quill

            Joe and Carl, kudos to the both of you in your kindred kind of discussion on spelling and syntax. I for one have always been the type who has a low tolerance level for those who can’t spell or form a proper sentence. The sad thing is that there have been many times, on other websites/discussion boards, where I have learned that some of guiltiest party’s were actually teachers and/or college professors. That fact alone is not only totally unacceptable but it also depicts an abhorrence in our educational system. How can someone who doesn’t know the proper form, spelling or usage of/for words such as to/too, there/their, were/where/wear just to name a few I see on a regular basis be certified to teach our children. And the teachers and professors who refuse to acknowledge the holocaust took place are a true travesty to the teaching profession as a whole. Granted, I make mistakes too (notice which for of to/too I used here?) but I don’t believe I make the obvious and numerous mistakes I witness in other posts. I just had to get my two cents worth in.

          • Rick Quill

            Oops….Sorry. I made a mistake. The “for” in the parenthesis of the next to last sentence was supposed to be “form”. A thousand apologies for not catching that spelling boo-boo.

  • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

    So if I’ve got this right, It’s OK for liberals and socialists to lie about anything and everything, but NOT OK for Ted Tancredo to tell the TRUTH? Yep, that sounds about normal for the liberal socialists!
    Teds right. Illiterates, and (ILLEGAL ALIENS) DID elect Osama…..and Pelosi, Reid, Bawney Fwank, Al “stupid” Frankin, Chris Dodd, Charles (cheat on my taxes) Wrangle, and a whole host of other lying liberal socialists over the years in order to keep their monthly government welfare checks coming in!
    As far as Osama himself, C.A.I.R.E. members voted for him because he turns his back on the American flag, and supports Islam!

    As far as liberal/socialists that I personally know who voted for Osama, one can not read so he couldn’t do his research on Osama (and wouldn’t listen to what we told him). He voted for him because of his lies he told during the campaign…go figure!!
    The second guy is from the gb (San Fran.) and was raised liberal socialist all his life, and has always voted a straight democratic ticket because his parents did. What an idiot!

  • Raggs

    This is just the begining just wait until November when SEIU and obama give all illegals the rigth to vote.

  • marvin

    last time i looked we were american and ENGLISH was the spoken language but when you have an idoit in the white that said we all need to learn spanish and bowing and telling other nation we are sorry if we the english speaking legal american citizens allow this travisty to go on i say if anyone wants to come to my country and we the people are having to feed and school and pay for them to have babies and healthcare they could try to speak our language no more care no more acorn no more iseu one legal vote one legal english speaking american no more AMNESTY

    • Carl F. Miller

      Marvin:

      I hope you are not too offended by my remarks, but in reading your post, you are a prime example of the failure of the public school system. I encourage you to acquire a dictionary, as well as pursuing a course in remedial writing.

      • Joe

        LOL!

        • Carl F. Miller

          Joe:

          Here’s another posting from one of our public school system students. Can you believe it? Don’t these people own a dictionary? I think I’m going to stop reading these postings; the illiteracy of these people is beginning to have an adverse effect on me. Worse yet, is my feeling that someday these types may get elected to govern me (and you, too).

          Bernadine says:
          February 22, 2010 at 2:17 pm
          I did not vote for OBAMA FOR THIS REASON MY PARENTS TOLD ME TO BE AWARE OF PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT LOOK YOU IN THE EYE, AND HAVE A SOLID
          HAND SHAKE. OBAMA HAS NEVER LOOKED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND STILL EVERY PICTURE IN THE NEWS HE IS LOOKING DOWN TO THE SIDE WITH A
          SNEAR ON HIE FACE. THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED HIM IN BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK
          WITHOUT TAUGHT AS TO HIS MORALS DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH IT OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN AS WELL AS OUR GREAT GRAND CHILDREN WILL SUFFER FOR IT. MY FORE FATHERS HELPED MAKE THE
          CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS FOR OUR FREEDOM. EVERY ONE COULD
          HAVE INSURANCE IF THE GOVERNMENT AND INSURENCE COMPANYS WERE NOT
          UNION. THE UNIONS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE OUT OF HAND.WITHOUT UNION COMPANYS WOULD COME BACK TO AMERICA. THEY COULD PAY A DECENT WAGE OF
          THE WORK THEY DO. UNION MEMBERS ALL GET THE SAME PAY WEATHER THEY DO A GOOD JOB OR NOT. THATS NOT RIGHT.IAM A TRUCK DRIVER AND I HAVE HAD TO WAIT 8 HOURS TO GET MY TRAILER UNLOADED AT UNION DOCKS. A LOAD THET COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN 2 1/2 HRS.
          GOD BLESS AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY

      • Judy

        Well mr. miller, aren’t you the hoity toity one. You act like a typical liberal. Too ignorant to discuss the issues in his post, butinstead complaining about his grammer or spelling, and education. You sir are the ignorant one. Go back to Saul Alinskis school where you belong.

        • Carl F. Miller

          Dear Judy:

          At the risk of alienating you, I must say that the more I read of such third grade remarks as yours, the more I become convinced that Ned the First Reader must have been your tutor. Apparently, you do not think proper diction and syntax and punctuation are important to intelligent readers. I don’t think you would fare too well if you applied for a job with MicroSoft or IBM—and hopefully you are not employed as a teacher in our public school system. But then again, and since I believe there’s a place for each of us; I’m positive you are thankful for the Walmart store in your area. Underachievers such as you always seem to lean on that weak crutch of criticizing constructive criticism. On the other hand, and when reading your erudite and cogent comments, I perceive you possess at least a M.A. degree—and most likely it’s in English.

      • Sheila

        Carl Miller,
        Way to go Carl… conservatives pointing out other conservatives mistakes is always useful and very productive.
        Thanks, but there are plenty of liberal socialists on here, such as denniso, and coal miner that always stoop to that tactic when they can’t debate the real issues. Who made you “grammar god”? Or should I say “grammar czar? I assume it was a “self appointed” position……….

  • chuck b

    phil

    mikey steele and obama are on the same level, berry just happens to be president.
    i have no hate for the country only disdain for some of the ignorance that steers the ship like berry, reid and pelosi.

    tancredo speaks the truth anyway you want to look at it. we should ban all immigration until we have new standards to regulate it. the muslim’s have no allegiance to this country, they want a shelter to spread there faith and when they have the majority watch your head, the illegal mexicans with a socialist mentality want back the land they think the gringo’s took from them and want to annex it back to mexico. their mentality tells them all these good things they are getting for free will continue under tha mexican flag.
    tancreto is 100% right

    • Joe

      The problem with the illegal Mexicans who want to take back land that they believe we stold from them (hmmm did we?) is that they themselves would not be willing to give that same land back to the Comanches, Apaches, Incs, Mayans, ect that they stold the same land from. I think they ought to all prove they are righteous and go back to Europe where socialism is flying high. (that is a joke, folks)

      • chuck b

        joe says

        from google:
        Land north of the rio grande was given to Texas. New Mexico and California were given to the United States.

        Actually, if my memory about history is right, no land was “taken” from Mexico. The United States actually purchased and paid Mexico for the land that today is California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, etc, a lot less than what the offer was before the war, once the US defeated Mexico. The fact that Mexico was much obligated (Mexican Cession) to sell the land at a much lower price might be seen by many, especially Mexicans, as “taken” from them. In addition, there was an additional purchase of land that today constitutes the southern part of Arizona (Gadsden Purchase). I only remember this because i’ve seen and heard a couple of people say that we are the only nation to win a war, occupy their territory, and then pay for it.

        • Joe

          You are probably right. All I know is that illegal Mexicans wanting to take back possesion is absurd. The native Americans who lived on this continent before the Europeans came here ran other tribes off their land, attacked and killed others, raped the women and made slaves out of other native Americans. I am not saying this to run down American Indians. It is just an observation made to make this point: Human nature and the trends resulting from greater strength of one people over another and of scientific and technological superiority have always been the same. Many people believe all the evils of mankind are due to white skin colorization. That concept is not only racist in itself, it is factually incorrect and grossly inaccurate. The evidence that you do not have to be white in order to commit genocide and other atrocities are visible all throughout history. Human beings have always been human beings and always will be.

          • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

            Thanks Joe for pointing out that the Indians were here first but they also came from other areas including Asia and Mexico; also the Aztec, Inca, Commanche and many others. My ancestors were Cherokee and they had their own government and school system. I am proud to be a Native American. No government has a legitimate claim to their “land” and need to let it rest.

            It was noted earlier how badly the Alaskan Indian were treated. This is also true on several reservations in the united States where the quality of life is poor and probably worse than the conditions the Germans, Japanese and Polish people endured during internment during World War II. We could make the claim we are the most mistreated of any group of people but we don’t because the United States remains the best place to live in the world and I am proud to be called American.

  • http://www.tryobe.com/sociallyspeaking.htm Perry Redd

    You gotta be kiddin’ me! White Americans are the greatest cowards on God’s green earth…and always wanting to take someone else’s earth at that! One thing for certain: if literacy tests came back and “the people” administered them, there’d be a hell of a lot of white people not voting! Tancredo ought to run for something where more than his “gang” can elect him. Preaching to a choir is never consensus. He’s a quitter (2007)like Sarah Palin who couldn’t get elected dog-catcher with those views…it only sounds good to racists.

    • blackhat

      I guess I’m a racist…since I think only legal US citizens should have the right to vote in America…silly me.

    • Joe

      Perry Redd,

      “You gotta be kiddin’ me! White Americans are the greatest cowards on God’s green earth…and always wanting to take someone else’s earth at that!” …. spoken like a true holier than thou, narrowminded racist bigot if I ever read a remark written by one. You know, if you would quit peeping through keyholes with both eyes at the same time, you might broaden the conceptual abilities of your mind.

    • Joe

      I think you libs just hate Sarah Palin because she is a great looking woman and next to her, Nancy Pelosi looks like the wicked witch in the Wizard Of Oz. … come to think of it, for all the griping about Sarah Palins speaking, when Nancy Pelosi speaks, she even sounds like the wicked witch of the left, uh, er… I meant the west. It may not have occured to you, but with her abilities and talents, and yes, even her looks, Sarah Palin has no need to consider a position as a dog catcher. That is good news. Soon, Harry Ried will be needing a job.

      • Joe H.

        Harry Reid has a job waiting for him!!! He will get one of those “shovel ready” jobs cleaning up all the bull shite that Barry has thrown around!!!

        • Rick Quill

          Joe, just thought I’d pass on a sign I made for the 15 April 2008 Tea Party……you know? the days just before “Astro Turf” and all the name calling by Pelosi, Reid and Co.? Names like “brownshirts”, “swastika brandishing tea baggers”, etc. Anyway I made a sign the read:

          I good shovel-ready bill
          would “ditch” Pelosi, Reid,
          Frank, and Dodd

          • Rick Quill

            oops….apparently I can’t remember what year it is. The year stated above should have read 2009.

  • blackhat

    btw…isn’t obama a quitter too? I think he resigned his Senate seat…

    • Joe

      uh…. Obama did not resign his senate seat …. he sold it.

      • Joe H.

        Is that sold or stole?????

        • myself

          To Joe H.
          Sold or stole….probably a little of both. I am still wondering how he made it through the interview process to get into College, without his prompter!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Mark S

    It seems whenever true Americans try to discuss the issues they’re concerned about, you always get the pencil-necked, mealy-mouthed, and generally nonsensicle liberal, progressive, communist, socialist, Marxist idiot trying to interject their worthless, crude and generally wrong ideas into the conversation. These people are so afraid of Americans like Sarah Palin, et al, that the only defense they have is to cower in the corner and throw insults. If they only had the intelligence to foster a real thought process in their pointy little heads, they’d realize what a mistake they made voting for someone like Obama, and for that matter, any other Democrat. When the time finally comes, and Obama has ruined the economy of this country to the point of default, said idiots will still be crouching in their corners murmuring “It’s all Bush’s fault.” with their last breath. Oh, to have an intellectual electorate again, like back when politicians were for the people. Of course, we’d probably have to go back to the founder’s time for that.
    I say we conservatives band together this time, take back our country, and make it mandatory to pass an IQ test before one gets the privilege of voting. That’ll weed out about 99% of the lib-commy-socialist-progressive Democrats, and we can vote to have the other 1% deliver milk, or something simple like that.
    Here we come Obama! LONG LIVE CONSERVATISM.
    P.S. If the libs don’t like what we say here, they can just join their CAIR buddies, and all their illegal alien friends, and move to another country, far as I’m concerned.

    • chuck b

      mark s

      said it like it is.

      • Joe

        yep, he sure did

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Mark S

    Truth hurts, doesn’t it, libbies?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Mark S

    What? No liberal replies yet? Or are you still trying to read the big words like c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e? Most of you are probably struggling to get through the first sentence. Call the White House and get Barry to help you pronounce and define. (Oh, there I go again, giving them big words like p-r-o-n-o-u-n-c-e.)
    This country will be great again when there is no longer a liberal majority, we’ve weeded out all the RINOs, and a conservative has had enough time to fix the LARGE TOTAL MESS that Democrats have gotten this country into.

  • Phil

    So President Obama stole the election?.. And it didn’t have anything to do with the 8 years of republican rule?.. And it didn’t have anything do with the state of our country after 8 years of Bush…. Or that the people the republicans choose to run aginst Candidate Obama?… McCains now claiming he was mislead on the economy abd bailouts and he sat in on the same meeting Obama did, and Sarah Palin..!.. Well, she’s got the IQ of a carrot… Which makes her a perfect Republican…you don’t have a republican that’s nears Ibamas poll numbers, even as low as they are…. And congress ? Both democrats and republicans polls are horrible…I believe republicans in congress are about 1 point ahead of democrats… So it’s not at all like Americas sorry the republicans are out….realclearpolitics.com..

    • Joe

      The republicans did not choose John McCain… the news media did. Of all republicans, he was the sweetheart of the democrat party. The republicans did not rule for 8 years. The democrats were in control of congress. Granted, it would have been nice if Bush had used his veto pen on their crap at least once or twice. And yes, the last election was most definately stolen. Of course, Obama being (supposedly) black gets an automatic pass on things like who contributed to his campaign over the internet, how many of his supporters were dead people, illegals, or voted numerously and even the question of his citizenship refuses to go away because he will not provide an authentic birth certificate. Obama garnered support from enemies of our way of life all over the world. The one poetic justice that I saw in his gaining the presidency was that John McCain, who helped write McCain/Fiengold in order to rob conservatives of free speech prior to an election and at the same time take away the need for Bill Clinton and Al Gore to account for their taking money from the communist Chinese, got his clock cleaned by a news media that created him and was able to overrule him, and by a candidate who raised millions of dollars that he was not able to campaign with. The election boiled down to pretty much a kick in the gut or a punch on the nose. Americans had no real choice and Obama and the democrats were able to capitalize on that with every dirty trick in the book. The election was most definately stolen.

      • Joe H.

        Joe,
        this is for Phil. In Obummers own words from a couple of years ago. “I have worked alongside ACORN since I’ve been in politics!!!!
        Glenn Beck just showed the video of Obummer saying this from an investigation of ACORN!!!!!! Guess your hero does lie!!!!

      • Tryagain55

        The only stolen election was by Bushes brother in Flordia 9 years ago.

        • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

          Tryagain55says made a comment about which he does not know the facts. Bush was leading by a considerable margin until Al Gore began crying foul and wanting a recount. The recount in several large counties presented an exercise where the majority of the hanging chads turned out on Al Gores side and he still lost.

          I have lived in Florida since 1979. In my opinion, it was Al Gore trying to steal an election he knew, but could not accept, he lost. You have to know Al Gore was the bag boy for illegal contributions from China. His con game with his “Global Warming” which he stands to make untold millions if “Cap and Trade” passes will leave you angry about all the taxes suddenly dumped on you and probably won’t even see it coming.

    • Joe

      Phil,

      Youi may think Sarah Palin is about as smart as a carrot. More likely, you just think talking crap is better than dealing with real issues. I mean, destroying character is a primary tactic of liberals, but then again, although she is not an elected official and may never be, her approval ratings nest to Obamas are something to be hold. Let me paint you an mental picture so you can grasp the emotional importance of how wrong you are: Picture the Statute of Liberty standing along side the local SRS building in your town.

      Get real. Come down to planet earth. The then air you liberals breath while you are walking around with your noses in the air is depleting your brain cells.

    • Joe H.

      eah Phil, eight years with the last two years with a democrat controlled house!!!

  • http://none Bernadine

    I did not vote for OBAMA FOR THIS REASON MY PARENTS TOLD ME TO BE AWARE OF PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT LOOK YOU IN THE EYE, AND HAVE A SOLID
    HAND SHAKE. OBAMA HAS NEVER LOOKED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE EYE AND STILL EVERY PICTURE IN THE NEWS HE IS LOOKING DOWN TO THE SIDE WITH A
    SNEAR ON HIE FACE. THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED HIM IN BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK
    WITHOUT TAUGHT AS TO HIS MORALS DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH IT OUR CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN AS WELL AS OUR GREAT GRAND CHILDREN WILL SUFFER FOR IT. MY FORE FATHERS HELPED MAKE THE
    CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS FOR OUR FREEDOM. EVERY ONE COULD
    HAVE INSURANCE IF THE GOVERNMENT AND INSURENCE COMPANYS WERE NOT
    UNION. THE UNIONS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE OUT OF HAND.WITHOUT UNION COMPANYS WOULD COME BACK TO AMERICA. THEY COULD PAY A DECENT WAGE OF
    THE WORK THEY DO. UNION MEMBERS ALL GET THE SAME PAY WEATHER THEY DO A GOOD JOB OR NOT. THATS NOT RIGHT.IAM A TRUCK DRIVER AND I HAVE HAD TO WAIT 8 HOURS TO GET MY TRAILER UNLOADED AT UNION DOCKS. A LOAD THET COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN 2 1/2 HRS.
    GOD BLESS AND HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY

    • Carl F. Miller

      Bernadine:

      I notice in your message that you say you did not vote for O’Bama. As such, I consider you to be an intelligent and informed voter. On the other hand, I would like to ask you this; of all those you may have asked if they voted for O’Bama, how many many of them said they did not vote for him. Probably most of them, right? It might interest you to know that of the hundreds of people I’ve asked that same question; not one said they voted for O’Bama. So, how did he get elected?

      • Joe H.

        Carl,
        i am 59 years old and have voted republican/ conservative all my voting life and I have not missed one year! So no I did not vote for Obummer and you can take that to the bank!!!!

      • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

        Carl Miller;
        If you asked that many people, and none of them voted for Osama, then I would guess that you did not ask any of the black racists who voted for him simply because he is part black & they all figured he would forward their agenda, AND you also did not ask any illegal aliens from Mexico. I’m also thinking you did not ask any ACORN workers, or members of CAIR, or La Razza.

  • Marilyn

    Just a small correction to some of the post here. We did not steal the land from Mexico. After we won the war, during James K. Polk’s time as President, he literally ask thed Mexicans what they would want for the land. They said 15,000,000. and that’s exactly what we gave them. But if you care to note, since the border states have become thriving communities, they suddenly said they wanted it back. I say let them have it at todays worth.

  • http://gmail Lone Rider

    Eddie, most people know their family history, most Irish, German. Scandiavians, Greek, Italians and others can check on the Ellis island records and manfests, the muslims don’t seem to adapt, but want us to become a 3rd world, like most Islamic countries are. The countries may have great wealth but average Ali Baba want us to adapt to their way and life stle and their multiple 1/3 persons called wives. They won’t live in any area unless it follows the pedophile Mohamad’s rules and ramblings and no outsiders are allowed. Our law enforcemnet doesn’t go in and see what is going on in their neighborhoods because of the secrecy attitudes. as for Tom T. he has first hand knowledge about the illegals. 3and 4 generation Mex. are too damn lazy to learn English and think they are still in Mexico. Behave if drug transportation and sales a a norm, look at the jail popuations. The mexicans and blacks cannot seem to learn that crime, is crime unless your with Acorn and a dem. quit committing crime and getting caught you probably won’t go to jail.I don’t care if you are a Norwegian, Mick, Polelock, Gook or what ever, mind our rules don’t try to change or country and learn speak English, what you do in you home is OK, but when on the job please use English. Easyist way to cut costs is put a bounty on illegals, it would cut our hospital costs, save social programs, clean up our jail systems. If convicted of murder on American citizens drop the hammer on them, save on jail space and our country. Illegals get better care than US citizens and faster and free. And the muslim in office says we are a muslim country, what a idiot, you cann’t call him a tool because tools are useful and do have a purpose to make life easier and purpose. Just check with the President, just axe him!!

  • tlittle

    Who gives a rat’s a** why do people take the words of some obscure politician as being the immutable truth? He gave his own opinion which lika an a** hole everyone has one. His statement was racist (yes i’m going there)and he does have freedom of speech,but my problem is how some of you respond to his rhetoric. You immediately start fist bumping and amening this moron’s statement. What about the Italian immigrants who came here yesrs age, many of YOUR ancestors. Did they even speak English? Probably not!!! How soon we forget. Whats the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants?…… UMM Illegal Immigrants DO NOT VOTE moron’s. SO his statement was very flawed from the beginning. This has nothing to do with being able to speak ENGLISH, it’s really about your anger and frustration because there is a BROWN person in the WHITE house!!!

    • Joe H.

      tlittle,
      yes they came here and didn’t know English but they strived to learn it just like the Checs, the Hungarians, the Poles, and others as well. These illegals don’t even make an effort to learn it! I have even seen them fly their flag above the stars and stripes!!! If you believe that is right, then you can kiss the dark side!!!

  • http://gmail Lone Rider

    Marlyin, we also didn’t steal the land from the Indians, the United States bought, it with them on the property, from the French and Russia. If the Indians want to quit being wards of the government quit whining that they are are a soverien nation. The Indians were selling off their property on the open market and people were better utalizing the ground. I’ve lived betwwen 2 reservations and when all the bleeding heart dinks in Washington cry about Indians being poor, most don’t have to worry about food or selter, government builds their houses and gives them commodities and get to try and raise buffola for years, at several million dollars, several freinds have married Indian decdents and have feed hundreds of hogs on free comodities purchased with a case of beer or a jug of rot gut wiskey. A lot of white people have played off of the Indian programs to get quite wealthy and their kids getfree college and have big herds of livestock. The kids only have to been a small percentage of Indian decent. A lot of blonde haired ble eyed “Indians”. The usual house built by the government lasts about 1 year, in cold climates even less. When they cut a hole above the bath tub and hang a blanket to keep the wind out. The hole is to water their horse or horses. The boxes of new clothes sent by churches end up in the dumps. Schools built for them are trashed in about 6 months. I know because I have to work on projects that needed skilled labor force and showed up every day on time not screw off time. I had to hire 4 timesd more workers than needed because I need to have so many Indians on the job. Once a government leach always a government screw up. Look at Postal Service, EPA, Farm Service Agency just to mention a few.

  • BonnieMW

    The comment Tom Tancredo made is an embarrassment. We are stepping on some real serious civil liberties when we start putting stipulations on who can vote. I hope all Americans believe in free speech, and everyone has the right to criticize what someone says, that is all part of free speech. It was an inappropriate statement and should be criticized and it does harm the Republican party and the Tea Party organizations when someone makes a prejudice statement. It is great that he had the right to make the statement and it is great that people have the right to organize and protest that they disapprove of the statement. That is one of the reasons I love American. Everyone does not have to believe like me or the establishment and they can express it. Lets make sure we never take that away from America. The Tea Party organization is a great organization lets not taint it. I think a more appropriate statement is that we need to make tighter regulations to ensure that the people who vote are legal not whether they can read or not. Some of the greatest Americans can’t read and they can have someone read to them.

    • Airangel

      Actually we should have stipulations on who can vote. It is not about race, color or religion but preserving a quality of life in which we can all prosper and raise our families in peace. We need to respect differences and be gracious hosts to national guests, however, when it comes to voting for the “American” way of life, you really should be an “American Taxpayer” and have earned the right to vote by working your share and paying your share of taxes to the inflated government. I am not just talking about illegals but also about the percentage of welfare recipients that aren’t gracious for the hand out and don’t have the integrity to get out and work so they can “pay-it-forward” in order for the same benefits to help others who fall on hard times…instead there are so many lazy “legal” Americans who are bleeding this country dry financially and not contributing as a citizen…

      If I went to a country, I would not expect to be able to vote not being a citizen or even having a grasp of that countries culture. I would respect their way of life as a guest in that country. I would not expect them to be politically correct with me and would honor their traditions…Why do we cowtow to other immigrants coming to America? Why can’t they respect our ways and holidays and traditions without trying to change something that was so great it beckoned to them to come here for “a better way of life” than what they had, now they spit on the very same country they “chose” to inhabit.

  • tlittle

    What i want to know is where were all you geniuses at the past 9 years? When Bush was in office? For 8 years nobody said a damn thing!!! now everyone has an A** hole, excuse me i meant opinion. No body remebers that right before he left office BUSH put the bank bailout on the table!!! rewind some CNN broadcasts. Obama was not the author of the bail out plan, he simply implemented it like the good boy that he is. What you fail to realize is that Obama is a puppet, he doesnt make policy!!! He is a scapegoat being used to finish the job that BUSH started!!! ie: screw the American people and reduce the middle class to being poor. Economics>>> the best way to control the people,and guess what it’s working all according to plan. You Morons are falling for the bullcrap, its a diversion, they want us at eac others throat, not trusting each other worrying about who is legal and who is nt, whether gays can get married or not. One smoke screen after another. NEWSFLAS……. PEDRO didnt steal your JOB!!!!! Bush gave it away, or better yet he sold it to CHINA!!!! Obame is your least worry, you need to worry about whos pulling his strings in the background. We are all being played like a Cello!!! They Wholesaled our country right from under us. We will be a third world country before all si said and done. Did you ever wonder why in the Bible in Revelations the UNITED STATES of AMERICA is no where to be found in the so called last days!!!

    • Joe H.

      tlittle,
      you show your ignorance. the U.S. was not thought of at the time of the writing of the Bible!!!
      Obummer is the one that has borrowed all the money from China. the trillions that our greatgrandchildren will be repaying!!
      Just many illegals come into this country per year under Obummer as did as did under Bush!!! they are doing carpentry, drywall work, construction work, and any job they can get their hands on so don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining son it just don’t carry!!!!

      • tlittle

        Joe you are the ignorant one, first of all revelations is PROPHECY numbdnutz!! secondly Bush had already sold our countrys collective soul to China. Obummer who i did not vote for by the way has only been in office for a year, yu are a damn fool if you think these issues happened only in the last year.Again I ask where were you when Bush was around. tell me what did he do? what legacy did he leave other than a F-d up economy which he COMPLETELY ignord foe all thoses years while his cronies looted and pillaged our country.

  • BonnieMW

    My son is a white male 33 years old and just received a grant for
    $18,000 and student loan for $10,000 for being a displaced worker.
    And this is just for one years college. There are grants available right now for low income families. Please take advantage of them it may be the last time ever you have this opportunity.

  • Rick Quill

    In all seriousness here I don’t believe Tom Tancredo’s statement to be an embarassment. But what I want to say is that I see the main thrust of this entire subject as the elimination of illegimate voters and voter fraud. If illegal immigrants are voting they are doing so illegally. Only U.S. citizens of legal voting age and that have not been convicted of a felony are authorized to vote under the laws granted by the U.S. Constitution. There is a simple way to fix part of the problem….come election day have volunteers placed in each voting location to check the credentials of voters. i.e. ensure they are of legal voting age and provide proof of U.S. citizenship. If a person is unable to provide proof of U.S. citizenship AND verify they are of legal age to vote then, simply, they are denied the ability to vote. Plain and simple. In addition keep ACORN and it’s affiliates out of the election process. They have already been proven to be interfering with the lawful election process. With that said, if my civics class of 30+ years ago serves me correctly, the interference in or tampering of any government voting process is considered a felony thereby legally prohibiting any person or organization linked to said activity from further and future participation in any election process(es). I would also like to cite the incident during the 2008 election in which members of the Black Panthers were filmed outside of a polling location. They were in blatant violation of Federal election laws by being present (with batons I might add) and performing an obvious act of intimidation. Why were those individuals not detained and charged? To that end I honestly and sincerely believe U.S. Atty General Eric Holder should be brought forward on charges of deliquency and failure to properly discharge the duties and obligations of his position. Of course this is only one of many, many instances that are extremely questionable in his position as U.S. Atty General. Where has the public’s outcry on this subject been mute? It’s time for America to wake up, get educated and then take action to restore our nation to great nation it was originally meant to be by our founding fathers. Let’s restore those rights we’ve lost and govern in accordance with the U.S. Constitution.
    Let’s stand up and send an ever loud, reverberating message to our Representatives in Washington reminding them that, under the Constitution, this is supposed to be a government of by and for the people. In other words, our representatives (Congressional and Senatorial members) are there to work for us, the people, and not the other way around.

  • Phil

    Naw Mark, I was just waiting for you to stop slobbering allover the place.. Why don’t you tell me and everybody else in here what you republicans would do diffrent then you did when you had the whitehouse and congress?.. I’ve yet to see a poll that says the American public is ready to let your weak ignorant brand of politics back in the door…i can tell by your post that you haven’t got a clue.. Solutions? Got any?…your still living under the same tax code W has had the country under… So what’s new?.. Anything?..you gotta have somekind of plan don’t you… I bet you can’t even name your partys leader….so are you just gonna be the typical rightwing liar and try and tell me it was Obama that drove this economy onto the ditch?..let’s talk about socialism why were at it… Was it socialism when Wallstreet was bailedout during his administration?…. Was it socialism to sink a trillion dollars into Iraq?.. How about the strippers and hookers Blackwater and Haliburton have billed the tax payers for in Iraq?…how about the 9 billion dollars ( that we know about ) that is just flatout missing in Iraq?..I figured I’d ask you since you seem like a weak link …No plan huh?…your partys leaderless as well as clueless…you better ratchet up the hate because the economys showing signs of rebounding and we’ve had more sucess in Afghanistan in the last year than we had in Bushs entire 8 Years..

  • Mappy

    Tancredo has a HUGE set, and CAIR never had a pair! CAIR needs to be run out of this country & d*mn soon!!!!

  • Rick Quill

    Just an after thought that I thought is germaine to the topic of this blog. The following was forwarded to me months ago and I found it to be most enlightening.

    ——————————————————–

    HARSH YOU SAY??

    1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, and all government business will be conducted in our language.

    2. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they are here.

    3. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

    4. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, nor any other government assistance programs.

    5. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

    6. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are not allowed to own waterfront property. That property is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

    7. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag, no political organizing, no “bad-mouthing” our president or his policies. If you do you will be sent home.

    8. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

    Harsh, you say ?…

    The above laws happen to be the immigration laws of MEXICO

    • Ernie

      How about, “…hunted down and shot”?

      • Rick Quill

        Well Ernie that would mean rewriting Mexico’s laws. Something that, as an American citizen and not a Mexican citizen, I do not have any authority to do. I neither have the ability/authority to nor do I want or wish to have the ability or authority to make Mexican law.

  • Ernie

    First off, CAIR is an organization that fronts and raises money for Islamic terrorists. So anything CAIR has to say is complete bull dung. Secondly, those “voters” who crossed our borders illegally mostly came from socialist or totalitarian government countries; they came here because the handouts they get here are infinitely better than anything they could earn from whence they came. Lastly, and I forget who said it and I may be paraphrasing, “The tree of freedom needs from time to time to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.” We are sitting on a presure cooker, folks.

  • Phil

    Rick… I’m not sure when you voted but where I voted you had to have a valid Id and be registered…if you have any proof illegals voted let’s hear it?… It sounds like more rightwing nonsense to me….

    • Ernie

      Wake up, Phil. ID’s can be forged . And, organizations like CAIR help illegals get drivers’ licenses. In most states, that is all you need. “…more rightwing nonsense.” How naive can you get? You really don’t have a clue, do you?

      • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

        (comment removed for offensive content)

        • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

          Hmmm? My comment got deleted and I didn’t write any curse words. All I said was that — and the other defenders of CAIR on here have those (r – - s) wrapped so tightly around their heads that it is cutting off the blood to their brains. How is that offensive?

          • libertytrain

            Perhaps you went overboard with your name calling – swearing isn’t the only suggested behavior frowned upon.
            “Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling.”

          • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

            Thanks mom, but I didn’t. You taught me better than that. ;-)

          • libertytrain

            I think you protest too much. Mother knows these things. Can’t put one over on mom too many times — you know that.

          • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

            I think I called — an ignorant, politically uneducated, liberal socialist, that chooses to align himself with CAIR and the arab terrorists that they hide within their organization.
            Does that mean I get no sugar on my cereal in the morning? No milk either huh?

    • Rick Quill

      Well you obviously have been drinking too much of the Kool-Aid Phil. If you took the time to watch the news (and I’m not talking about the LSM propaganda machine co-opted by the Obama machine) you perhaps might have gotten somewhat edumacated and learned that ACORN was and still is up to their necks in voter fraud by registering illegal voters, cartoon characters, the duplication of voter names as well as other tactics. So if you are going to try and argue the issue please get your facts straight first. And by the way, Ernie was also correct in his rebuff to your post.

    • stephen dickson

      you seem to have forgotten about the dem’s and motor voter registration… Anyone getting a drivers licence was automaticly regestered to vote

  • Joe H.

    phil,
    Yeah that’s why Obummers so low in the polls. If the economy is in such a rebound, where’s the jobs???? When are the house evals going back up?? There you go pissin on peoples legs agtain and tryin to tell them it’s raining when it’s just you slobering over your hero. Well I hope you know you are going to drown in the water you think he can walk on!!!!

    • Tryagain55

      Lets see when Reagan in office 11% unemployment, gas rationing and huge defects and an 18% mortgage interest rate. The surpluses 8 years later was due to Reagan’s policies.
      Eight years of GW Bush and economy’s in toilet. One year of Obama and we haven’t turned around yet. Humm why does it take 8 years for Republican policies to work but Democrats get 1 year.

  • Phil

    Joe?… Obama borrowed all the money from China?… Lmaooooo.. My god, I’ve found a pit of idiots….And Obama borrowed all that money for what?…

  • Phil

    Ernie… So you think their were 56 million forged id’s huh?… It amazes me that you people can read your own post and not come to the conclusion that your stupid…by the way, you can google President Obamas proof of birth and his certificate is posted… Along with the newspapers announcement …did they fake that too?… 54 yearsago?.. Now that’s planning …

    • coal miner

      Phil,

      You can’t argue with these bird brains.They don’t pretend to be stupid.They are stupid.

      • Rick Quill

        LOL

      • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

        ummmm yeah, as opposed to you who has never managed to post an intelligent thought on here!

    • Holly

      Phil,
      The birth certificate that Obama post online is nothing but a short form B C. It means nothing. They can be obtained in Hawaii by anyone who stands up and says “yes I was born here” no proof required. The only B C that proves anything is the long form B C. It is the one complete with the delivering Doctors signature, and place of birth that is required to PROVE where a person is born. The B C that Obama posts online would not even get him, or anyone else a drivers license in my state.

  • Jack

    Patriotic Americans do not care what CAIR says or thinks. Tom Tancredo is absolutely, positively right in what he said and does not need to apologize to anyone, especially CAIR. Only the liberal progressives care about CAIR. I believe CAIR should be placed on the Terrorist Organizations List where they belong.

  • Phil

    It’s embarressing enough that you rightwingers in here call yourself Americans… So I’m just glad you’re republicans and so called conservatives….. Ron Paul really won the CPAC straw poll…?…who is your leader?…most of you should be ashamed to even claim to be Americans… President Obama has 3 years left and I hope he’s finished trying to include conservatives .. You deserve no voice in this country because you take no responsibility for the mess you’ve made….don’t try an wrap yourselfs in the flag and Christianity… Nobodys buying it but you…you’re Vile hateful people..honesty totally escapes you.. Not to mention reality…you still aren’t aware why you LOST the election….

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      Who cares if you’re embarassed, we know we’re right, and you and yours are wrong. You are apparently worried about the posters here being Americans while dismissing the faux POTUS as such without ligitimate documentation. Do you know the difference between a “Certificate of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate”? I suggest you look it up. By the way, Obama’s sister has the same Certificate of Live Birth even though it’s not disputed that she was born in Indonesia?

      Obama is a foreigner who was raised by Communist and Muslim’s which does not set well with the beliefs and wishes of the majority of Americans. The majority of Americans now want domestic conservatives as leaders.

      The jig is up, the game is over. Your Messianic manipulator has reached the apex of his journey. From here the road leads down hill for you, him and the entire massive Liberal Progressive Utopian movement.

    • Unbiased Observer

      PHIL aka FILL DIRT;
      Maybe your name should be spelled “FILL” as in Fill dirt. That seems to be what most of your posts are comprised of. Fill dirt is generally worthless dirt that nobody wants because of it’s lack of quality, & substance, and is generally used to fill holes, and then covered with more dirt of a better quality never to be seen again. In your case a “towel” or “rag” would be put around the top to signify your association with the arab CAIR Terrorist organization. Rest in peace Fill Dirt, & remember, they will cut your throat way before they have the chance to cut mine.

    • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

      Yeah Phil, I guess you’ve had such an abject pathetic life that you must align yourself with an arab terrorist organization. We understand.

      from World Net Daily: asserts CAIR is a front in a conspiracy by the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood to advance Saudi-style Islamic law in the U.S.”
      http://www.wnd.com

  • ONTIME

    CAIR is under a heavy investigation by the supreme court for terrorist ties and activity, something which should have been done ten years ago, were it not for two private citizens bringing forth evidence by the box full, this anti American organization would be even more heavily involved in infiltration and subterfuge of our government and institutions.

    The election process is under attack, the vote is in peril of being nullified by the use of illegal methods to increase the number of votes one man can cast. Thanks to the likes of ACORN, RAZA, MECHA and other co-ordinating organizations used to diminish the power of the ballot box and insure that leftist are put in office, we Americans now need to make sure the election and voting laws are enforced and the polling data is safeguarded. The irksome part is that our own tax dollar is being used against us again by some of these groups if not all and our wonderful political machines seem to turn a blind eye. This is why it is important to be a educated person when you vote, know about who and what your vote is cast for, it is a responsibility and a privillege to cast your ballot, please treat it as such. Remember one man, one vote.

    • chuck b

      isn’t it strange how the liberal commentators are calling the conservaties un-american, responsible for all the countries ills, while the democrats have controlled the congress for the last three years and an inept democrat presidency for fourteen month’s. this tells ma one thing, they have been so brainwashed with liberal ideology blinders they have tunnel vision and there is no bright light at the end of their tunnel. they are starting to shake, the money is running out and the government tit is going dry. so what do we do?? vote for palin!!!

  • http://gmail Lone Rider

    Clinton sold a military port in Cal. to the Chinese. also approve a 12 city block of property in Denver with the Republic of China. But Bubba and Carbon Credit Gore had to pay back their Chinese goons. The comment about illegal aleins don’t vote they sure do in several state and all for the dems. The dems are going to keep on giving taxpayer’s money for more fraud and registering illegals, the dem way since after the Civil War. As for presenting voter ID, dems constant claim that it is to hard to get, head on down to the sovergien nation in Indian reservations. It is like Chicago, vote often and all over.Cair is just muslims trying to blow smoke that they are a peaceful caring relegion, which mostly what they want is to destroy the “Great Satan”.Holder and Obyee and the rest of our home grown terristist in the administration get tingles with the idea of destroying the USA anyway possible.The idea of getting grant and money for education, that is taxpayers’ money and we need more educated brain dead theorist wasting monet. Right now business cann’t find enough skilled crtaftpersons, welders, operators of heavy equipment, mechanics, and someone that know how to work, perferrably can speak and talk and maybe axe an intellegant question. We have too many computer game players and basketball dinks like our President. Clueless!! and over paid like his grumpy ass wife. Unions have screwwed up schools, businesses and all forms of working in the US.

  • Josie60

    I don’t think it is correct to make comments that lump immigrants in one pot. THE ISSUE AND PROBLEM IS NOT IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE HERE LEGALLY THE PROBLEM IS WITH ILLEGALS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Immigrants are screened and given permission to emigrate to this country and contribute to it’s growth – illegals sneak in, break our laws and sap the life out of everyone for the benefit of themselves.
    If you look back in your own family history most of you will find a story of an immigrant that sacrificed everything to come to the US and worked to be a part of the American dream. Not drain it but help build it.
    I’m not sure about immigration requirements are today, but when my family came to this country in the late 50′s,the US required a five year wait time to be naturalized. Before we could qualify we were tested to be sure we could read and write and had a basic understanding of the English language. Answer questions that demonstrated that you understood the constitution, had a fair knowledge of how the government bodies worked and what having voting priveledges meant. We had to provide witnesses vouching for our character and of course could not have a criminal record. When we swore an oath of allegience to honor and protect the US, we happily did so. SO WHAT HAPPENED!

  • http://aol bugrocks

    we are still in america where we have the freedom of speech so the hell with cair look at aol directory DO YOU SEE BLACK VOICES? DO YOU SEE LATINO? BUT how about white voices or just white don’t see it because then we would be racist

  • Brittanicus

    E-Verify is becoming a nationally known removal symbol, that the federal government introduced against unscrupulous employers who hire illegal labor. Most Liberal Democrats and even Republicans have tried to use their influence, to hide it from public attention. In partnership with certain members of our corrupt government, unions, the church and other groups sympathetic to the illegal alien cause or plain money economics, have used deceit, under funding or the off-switch, to dispose of the computer application. Sen. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi was the epitome of deception and nearly managed to table it in the Senate. Like any law that trespasses on business profits, E-Verify has been ascertained as full of errors and was worthless. It might have been to the advantage of pariah companies, but not to the 15 million Americans out-of-work. I’m an Independent, but I have thrown my lot in with the tea-baggers, hoping to rid the political parties of raw CORRUPTION.

    Think on this! We are told we don’t have the money to deport the 20 to 30 million already here? But states like SANCTUARY CALIFORNIA and across our nation, seem to locate the money for education, free health care treatment, prisons and a hundred and one hidden subsidies, that are denied to American’s poor in many instances. Time and again, you will read that the PC run program is derogatory to citizens and green card holders alike, when if a E-Verify job applicant is rejected he can assert his rights at the Social security building in his community. SIMPLY STATING THAT NOBODY WITH INELIGIBLE DOCUMENTATION, WILL STAY AT A DISTANCE FROM THE SSA OFFICES. This is obviously not spelled out in the liberal press, associated websites or even negative bloggers comments. The Fact is they don’t want to divulge the truth, to the general public and specially to all the working population.

    Our immigration enforcement programs are upside down, because Washington and the open border lobbyists have engineered it that way. We legally in this country have never undertaken, to research the truth about the decades of neglect under different administrations. We have been taken to the cleaner’s for years, because we never seriously asked questions because we didn’t have access to lawmakers? But the Internet has changed all that and anybody today can unravel the truth about the millions of illegal immigrants squatting here. YOU THE TAXPAYER ARE FORKING OUT THE BILLIONS? SO YOU SHOULD GOOGLE THE TRUTH AND FIND OUT WHERE YOUR TAXES ARE GOING? While you about it, research SMARTBUSINESSESPRACTICES. dot.com. NUMBERSUSA.dot.com and read about the WASHINGTON AND STATE CORRUPTION AT JUDICIAL WATCH. dot. org

    At the same time call those phonies at the Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121 and ask them why are they trying to sell us on another AMNESTY, when the last one was never enforced. At the same time asked them why they have cut-back on ICE raids or why Janet Napolitano isn’t doing her Homeland Security (HSC) job properly and evidently listening to open border lobbyists. HS chief has deliberately cut funding for the State, county and city police training programs, so they can arrest illegal aliens and send them home. In addition E-Verify has been recommended in the future to unmask illegal immigrant fraudulent mortgages and loan restructuring, transportation drivers licenses, vehicle registrations, insurance and health care.irregularities. It could also be used to detect illegal aliens voting in our elections as well. Our country is overrun by not just job seeking illegals, but hardened gangs and a list of habitual criminals who have run rampant.

    Be ready to deflate these tired old wealthy legislators brought and sold, beginning with the mid-term elections. PUBLIC UPROAR IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THINGS DONE? American jobs for American people. One flag–One language. No Copyright. Copy and Paste. Watch for illegal aliens voting in–NEVADA–this 2010.

  • eddie47d

    Joe H.;Obama is not the one who borrowed all this money from China. That was years earlier. (Now I didn’t say it won’t happen)Alot of immigration from Mexico has slowed down because of our economy.Those who are left are still doing our drywalling,ect.,but they also came here years earlier. Blame Obama for things he may be doing wrong but don’t accuse him of things that are not of his doing. Also,several persons on previous Livingston sites have made claims that the bible mentions the United States.

  • BonnieMW

    Oregon just voted in a tax that seemed impossible for anyone with any
    intelligence to vote for but it passed. I am very suspicious of tampering with the ballots. We don’t even need voter cards anymore.
    We can sign up on line. One lady said she voted for 6 people
    just to see if she could get away with it. There is a lot more room
    for corruption and fraud with the computerized registration and mail in ballots. I know years ago you had to have a card and ID and go in person. I think they need to go back to that type of voting. Also, I think each party needs independently supervise the ballot stations to make sure no one is cheating. In Eugene a lady was opening the ballots and throwing the ones in the trash that didn’t vote how she liked. They say more people vote with the mail in ballots but I think if you are serious about voting get to the polls in person.

    • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

      You’re right Bonnie. I think Ore. is the only state in the U.S. that has vote by mail. It leaves a lot of opportunities for fraud, multiple registrations, stolen ballots, & stolen mail etc, but I think the reason those 2 tax bills passed is because the liberals that inhabit the I-5 beltway from Eugene to Portland just outnumber us. Not many bills like those ever came up until the liberals infiltrated the state legislature and got us into debt with all their socialist programs for the last 25 years. Now they come up with new tax laws to cover their lack of fiscal responsibility. (How do you like all the HIGHER DMV fees? I had to go to the bank FIRST, before I got my D.L and plates.)
      We used to be a red state until so many liberals moved up here from Cali. and stunk up the place with all their liberal socialist stench. (Not ALL Calis. are libs, but most of them where I live are, s.west, but my county is still red) Also there are a lot of young college people in Or. who just haven’t got a clue what they are doing when they vote. Unfortunately we have been a blue state since “lying slick willies” first term 20 years ago.

      The lady in Eugene that was trashing ballots that she didn’t agree with, SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED!! It’s not too late to follow that up, and get something done about it!

  • connie

    tell CAIR to go stuff a tea bag where the sun do shine. and as far as Americans,TRUE Americans that is, We are not cowards, We are not afraid to work, or to pay are bills, and we are not afraid to…….

  • http://stevenartus2@gmail.com stevenartus

    It’s time to cut the crap. Besides belonging to a relegion of peace LOLLOLLOL, the members of CAIR, especially the “Big Cahuna’s” are all anti-American racists, and Islamoterrorists. They all talk about peace and freedom, but they are not talking about the USA, and every time an American sneezes, they are the very first to cry RASCIST. THEY ARE THE TRUE RACISTS. It is time we Americans demanded that these scum be racially profiled, so we can find out where their cells are and kill them and destroy their cells. This is not about taking prisoners, it’s about ridding our country of a cancer, and the only way to killm a cancer, is to kill it, WITHOUT PREDJUDICE.

  • Mark

    I am not prejudice or racist. Except for one item and that is trouble. Trouble has no skin color, but if you are trouble I am against you. You can’t read or write in English, you are trouble, because you are costing American taxpayers millions of dollars. Americans that can read and write in English. So go the _ell home, or learn the language.

    • denniso

      How about some of the rightwing fools here who can’t spell or use anything like decent grammar? Are you going to send them away too?
      There is NOTHING in the constitution about having to speak or write any language to be a citizen. And, the military industrial complex costs tax payers much more money than people who don’t speak english…get over it!

      • libertytrain

        denniso – rather than calling them “fools” perhaps question the quality of teachers/educators/school systems that do not teach/have not taught the basics – like spelling, for (apparently) quite sometime. The left and right seem to have equal spelling difficulties.

      • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

        you act like you are you afraid that you will be the first one to get kicked out of the polls? (sentences removed for offensive content)

        • denniso

          Liberty…I’m not going to blame teachers for the terrible lack of education that so many people exhibit…I think most kids/adults who want to learn, do learn…

          • libertytrain

            You may be correct – yet kids don’t know what’s right or wrong for them. Only what’s easier, more fun. Perhaps parents have neglected their responsibility as well – and that is more than half the problem.

  • Harley Knull

    CAIR needs to go back to their piss ant countries of origin and get out of America. They come here to suck up all of our freedom and benefits but don’t want to be tolerant of us. GO HOME! Our elected officials need to get a backbone and tell them to shut up or go home.
    CAIR is a racist organization.

  • Kowboy

    The puppet masters run the government,…electronic voting is fraudulent,..doesn’t matter who gets in, Dem or Rep,..two heads of the same beast. When we have a great guy (like Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin) that will work FOR the people,..the masters also control the media,…and give the good guys very little coverage and ridicule them,..and exclude them when they should be taking part in front of the masses.Obama’s pretty smooth, great teletype reader,..yet related to Bush, Cheney, the Queen,Clinton, thru his white mother,..and all presidents come from the same ancestry. When one does good for the people they are eliminated. We all need to stick together,stop judging,..share info,..after all “they” want to eliminate four fifths of the planet. We’re all in this together, need to stop bickering,..work together to save our butts,..our we’ll lose them arguing over nonsense.We need to protect our God given rights of freedom and liberty, the pursuit of happiness,…and obey the one law that applies to everyone,….Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,..and if you fail to do so,and don’t make restitution…you are outlawed/banned from society. No need for jails. There’s an awkening going on. We need to support those that are leading in taking our freedom and power back…now ! Time is short. If you’re not part of the solution,..you’re part of the problem.

  • David Hall

    There needs to be some kind of test. I mean look where these brilliant
    minds have already taken us in just over one year. Just about OFF THE
    CLIFF! Well, well my great-grand daddy was a democat, my daddy was a
    democat, so, so I’m votin dem-o-cat! Wait! wait! he’s a black man and
    I’m a black man so, soes, I’m voting fo, dat dem-o-cat, too! I mean,
    BRILLIANCE AT IT’S FINEST! OH, WAIT! Just a second, brilliance working, duh it’s, duh, BUSH’S FAULT! DAMN-IT-BOYS!

  • Bill Kay

    If anyone in our govt had any guts, they would run these CAIR RATS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, and anyone else thats supports this rotten ILK.

  • JPW

    I totally wasted my time in the last election by voting. According to sara palin it was God who put Barrack Obama in office.He does great work.

    • David Hall

      JPW it really doen’t matter what Mrs. Palin said, but in the HOLY BIBLE it is written that GOD SETS UP KINGDOMS AND WATCHES KINGDOMS FALL! GOD set up the Roman Empire and watched it fall! That’s why
      folks should PRAY FOR AMERICAN! BELIEVE IT OR NOT! I could care less.

  • http://msn Mukluks

    I am leaving the good ole U.S.A. in about 7 or 8 more years. Need to pay off my home first and I will do it. Heading to Israel.

    • David Hall

      Mukluks, with all due respect, looks like to me you jumping from the
      fire into the frying pan. If Israel don’t knock them nuke sites out
      of that NUT-CASE IRAN, they say there won’t be an Israel. God Bless ya, and good luck with your plans.

  • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

    If you read nothing else, make sure you read the last two lines in the 3rd paragraph. What do you liberal socialists who post here in “defense” of CAIR have to say NOW?

    HOMELAND INSECURITY

    Desperate Muslims launch ‘Hail Mary’
    ‘It’s like a drowning person flailing in water, they grab on to anybody and drown them’

    Posted: February 21, 2010
    8:15 pm Eastern
    By Art Moore
    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    On the heels of a major setback in federal court, the Council on American-Islamic Relations is “throwing a Hail Mary pass” to keep its “Muslim Mafia” lawsuit alive by issuing subpoenas to a prominent counter-terror expert, says a lawyer for the two men who probed the Muslim group’s terror ties in a sting operation.

    “The timing of their request is a sign of desperation,” said Daniel Horowitz, representing former Special Agent P. David Gaubatz and his son Chris, who recovered thousands of pages of incriminating CAIR documents meant for a shredder while posing as a Muslim intern.

    The 12,000 pages of documents obtained in the daring six-month undercover operation – which proved to be of interest to counter-terror experts and a federal grand jury – provided key evidence for the book “Muslim Mafia” published last fall by WND Books. The expose asserts CAIR is a front in a conspiracy by the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood to advance Saudi-style Islamic law in the U.S.

    “CAIR is lashing out wildly at anybody associated with this book,” Horowitz told WND. “It’s like a drowning person flailing water; they grab on to anybody they can and drown them so that they live.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com

  • California70

    Somebody need to let CAIR know that Illegal organizations that wish to subversively undermine the United State of America and what we stand for should SHUT-UP and GO-AWAY! CAIR is un-american and these people should be locked-up in the nearest jail. Mr. Tancredo’s remarks are not offensive to those who actually have an EDUCATION! The blacks were USED, to put through the “civil-rights” movement so all the existing laws could be negated and socialist laws put in their place. This is what enables CAIR to wreak havoc on America! The CAIR organization is nothing more than a bunch of subversives trying to DUMP America!!

    Any immigrant that wants to vote should have to speak English and pass civics test, and be a CITIZEN of this great Country. Not someone who just came here to try to make a quick buck, and then turn our Great Country into some socialist, banana republic, which is what CAIR is trying to do. Wake-up America. These kinds of organizations only want to cause trouble and take our freedom away, and ruin our Country.

  • California70

    Also, Mr. Tancredo should definately NOT REPUDIATE his remarks. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the TRUTH!!!!

    And, whoever the “National Tea Party Convention Organizers” are better think twice before they tell Tom Tancredo to recant his remarks because the voters are sick of all these sham socialist organizations and Muslims organizations like CAIR!! CAIR is not even a legal organization. So, just who do these people think they are to tell Americans what to do?

  • RANDY

    Thanks Tom you are the man of the year!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tlittle

    Kowboy you hit the nail on the head. Finally someone with a whole brain. They keeptheb people distracted so they can execute their master plan. WORLD DOMINATION….. Economics is the ONLY way to control large groups of people. Our economy was DESTROYED on purpose. But hold onto yur hats folke, cause this was just a TEST run!!!! you aint seen nothing yet. Republica,Democrat,Independent, none of that crap even matters anymore, hell American doesnt matter either. They operate on a GLOBAL scale, they look at us all the same,black,white,green,brown, doesnt matter to them. Power is what they are after and Power is what they got. Tell me what will you do when they turn off yur debit/credit cards? What will yu do when paer money has no value, other than to wipe your butt with? ECONOMICS!!!! I’m sorry sir/maam but your money is no good here!! Or when they pull you over and see that you dont have their mark on you, because they will KNOW who they own, and who is still resisting them. Sounds crazy doesnt it? But one day you will remember that I TOLD YOU SO!!! Stop being a racist moron and realize that you had better be a Human Being first, not American, Democrat,Republica, Muslim whatever. We need to get together and quite letting them manipulate us into being at each others throats all them time. There will come a day when we will ALL need each other, because you wont be able to trust ANYONE when the sh*& hits the fan.

    • Goodeye

      Have you ever read the book TIMELY AND PROFITABLE HELP FOR TROUBLED AMERICANS by Hans J. Schneider? Google it.

  • Chuck Leipold

    Tom Tancredo was a good and credible candidate for the Republican Party in the last Presidential election. His ideas about a test of literacy before voting is a good one. During the 2008 election cycle Mr. Tancredo refused to participate in a Spanish language debate being broadcast on Hispanic television. His reason, if they can’t read or write in English they should not be voting. Guess what? he was right. Another problem with our electoral process is the idiots from both major parties who always vote a straight ticket. These fools would literally vote for Satan as long as he was the nominee of their party. Somehow we need to educate or weed out these unthinking morons from the electoral process. By way of numbers it is estimated that they comprise approximately 20 to 25% of their respective parties.

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    Most politically correct are those unable to commit the “crime of thinking”. Amnesty rewards illegal invasion of USA.

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    Most politically correct are unable to commit the “crime of thinking”.
    Amnesty rewards illegal invasion. That is idiocy, permitting the entry
    of murderous drug cartel and terrorists such as those who would take
    down Fort Dix. Past amnesty has resulted in huge push for ever more brazen invaders. Today it cost $350-500 billion annually. It is criminal thievery. 30 milion unemployed Americans indicate pro-amnesty
    politicains and businesses are anti-American and self serving. Where is the compassion for their own countrymen in need? Who are they fooling? USA is in shambles and chaos with uncontrolled and unassimilated immigration. Dozens of languages ine one school with no common denominator. Will America be governed by those with degrees a la Soutamayor? Spare us. Experts agree America is in rapid decline, which can only be stopped by a complete halt to immigration for 10yrs and then a return to past successful sensible policies of assimilation
    and limits. Adherence to the Constitution, a mystery man who pays $2 million to hide his background would never have happened in USA.
    M.Zuckerman:”It is unfortunate that, becausehe is so far outside the American mainstream, and because he carries so much hatred in his heart for the country he seeks to lead, his failures will not be viewed as the failure of a black socialist attempting tobring down a constitutional republic, but simply as the failure of a black man.” Hatred in his heart.Quite a crowd in that White House. A first family
    who attended flag burning ceremonies? A president apologizing and complaining about the most generous country on the planet? Tea Partiers, the most patriotic people, are offensive? How dare you? A
    mystery man burdening America is unimaginative debt for decades to come, stripping it of its freedoms, identity, culture, and refusing to
    protect its border from terrorists and drug cartel. 2,600 cartel killings across the border in 2009-and the president decreases border guards? Whose side is he on? A shootout between the muslims and the FBI
    to install Sharia Law in USA is not offensive? A muslim opening fire on unarmed military you don’t find offensive? Then you don’t belong in America.

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