Bye-Bye, Benghazi!

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Breaking news — Obama lied. They give awards for that? And I expected 90% of America to look bigger. All this, plus — remedial history for liberals. Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 
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Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • independent thinker

    ROFL Good one Ben.

  • vicki

    I’m a native American. I was born in the USA.

  • hippybiker

    It seems ironic to me that “Hilary The Hut” was one of the lawyers who went after Nixon. Now shes in the hot seat and where are the cries of outrage from Democraps?

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      She’s already been thown under the bus by Obama bin Laden. Here is an article, with many videos, dealing with Benghazi.
      http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/05/09/the-damning-dozen-twelve-revelations-from-the-benghazi-hearings-n1591336
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “..it would be a dangerous delusion were a confidence in the men of our choice to silence our fears for the safety of our rights: that confidence is everywhere the parent of despotism.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd U. S. President
      Founding father
      Orthodox Christian

      • Sarah417

        You say…she’s already been thrown under the bus. She doesn’t work there anymore so what difference does it make?

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          If she just quit, she could run for president in 2016. But since she was thrown under the bus and is being grilled about Benghazi, her chances are now “0”. Thank goodness. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
          Thomas Jefferson

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Hillary still believes that she can become president in 2016, it is her “visions of the annointed” mandate. It doesn’t matter if their is a reshuffling of players to the W H. Benghazi is just a minor setback for her and Os.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            This is true, but hopefully reality will set in soon. We can tell what kind of person Hitlery is. Who stays married to a man that is nothing more than a womanizer so they can stay in power? Here is an article showing that one of the benghazi whistleblowers is a former sheeple that had his eyes opened to the truth.
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/05/11/benghazi-whistle-blower-a-democrat-voted-for-hillary-and-obama-twice/
            I guess there is no honor among thieves. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”
            Benjamin Franklin
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Washington D C has it’s own particular and peculiar type of pecking order and Hillary has been manuevering so that she is believing herself to be above Congress and America.She believes that she can save the World. Not unlike the Napoleons, the Hitlers, the Stalins, the Os , the Kennedys, and the list goes on and all the rest of the tyrants of history they all believe that they have a savior mandate to save the world and rule the world.

          • nc

            Nads, “being above Congress and America” sound a lot like Ollie North when he was doing the bidding of Reagan and ghw bush. He said he knew the acts of Congress forbidding supplying arms to Iran but enjoyed violating them as well as illegally redirecting the money to the Contras. And Reagan and ghw bush stood by and smiled.

      • Jana

        http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

        (1)Murdered US Ambassador Chris Stevens’ second in command, Gregory Hicks, was instructed not to speak with a Congressional investigator by Sec. Hillary Clinton’s chief
        of staff, Cheryl Mills. Hicks said he’d “never” faced a similar demand at any point during his distinguished 22-year diplomatic career. When he refused to comply with this request, the State Department dispatched an attorney to act as a “minder,” who insisted on sitting in on all of Hicks’ discussions with members of Congress .

        (2) When Hicks began to voice strenuous objections to
        the administration’s inaccurate talking points with State Department higher-ups, the administration turned hostile. After being lavishly praised by the president and the Secretary of State for his performance under fire, Assistant Secretary of State Beth Jones instantly reversed course and launched into a “blistering critique” of Hicks’ leadership. He was subsequently “effectively demoted.” Hicks called Rice’s talking points “stunning” and “embarrassing.”

        • Jana

          http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

          (3) Secretaries Clinton and Rice (the
          president’s hand-selected messenger on Benghazi
          to the American people) repeatedly stated that the attack arose from “spontaneous protests” over an obscure YouTube video. This was never true. Hicks called the YouTube a “non-event” in Libya.
          He and others on the ground — including Amb. Stevens — recognized the raid as a coordinated terrorist attack from the very beginning. Hicks testified that he personally told Sec. Clinton as much at 2 am on the night of the attack, along with her senior staff. [UPDATE – Rep. Trey Gowdy also revealed an email sent on 9/12 in which Assistant Sec. Jones confirmed to a Libyan official that the attack had been carried out by terrorist organization Ansar al-Sharia]. Days later, Rice recited bogus talking points on five American television networks, and Clinton denounced the video while standing next to the flag-draped coffins of the fallen.
          Hicks said there he never mentioned any “spontaneous demonstrations” related to a video in his phone call with Clinton:

          Questions: How, why, and by whom did the administration’s talking points get scrubbed and re-written? Why did the president refuse to identify
          the attack as terrorism in an interview with CBS News on September 12, and why did he allow Sec. Rice to disseminate patently false information on his behalf?

          (4) A small, armed US force in Tripoli was told it did
          not have the authority to deploy to Benghazi in the midst of the attack. Twice. Flight time between the two
          cities is less than an hour. Members of the would-be rescue contingent were “furious” over this obstruction. The witnesses said they did not know who ultimately gave the “stand down” orders, or why. If it was not the Commander-in-Chief calling the shots, why not, and where was he? Whistle-blower Mark Thompson, a career counter-terrorism official at State, said he called the White House to request the immediate deployment of a Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST) to Benghazi.
          He was told it was “not the right time” to do so, then was cut out of the communications loop

          • Jana

            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

            (5) The US’ security chief in Libya, Eric Nordstrom, averred that Sec. Clinton “absolutely” would have been briefed on his (and Stevens’) repeated requests for an increased security presence in Libya. This claim undercut committee Democrats’ nitpicking over whether Clinton’s signature appeared on the memo
            denying those requests: Furthermore, the Benghazi
            compound was operating below the bare minimum global security standard for US diplomatic missions —
            despite being in an exceedingly dangerous place, and having been subjected to previous attempted attacks. Only the Secretary of State has the authority to grant exemptions for minimum security requirements.

            (6) Amb. Stevens was stationed at the vulnerable Benghazi compound on a dangerous symbolic
            date at the behest of Sec. Clinton, who wished to make that diplomatic mission a permanent outpost. This detail should only intensify questions as to why the
            consulate was so poorly protected (see item #7).

          • Jana

            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

            (7) Nordstrom stated that elements of the lightly-armed Libyan militia group tasked with protecting the consulate were “certainly” complicit in the attacks. No US Marines were present at the time. Hicks estimated that at least 60 terrorists swarmed into the compound during the attack. Eight months later, zero arrests have been made.

            (8) A mortally wounded Amb. Stevens was taken to a
            hospital controlled by the Islamist extremist group (Ansar Al-Sharia) primarily responsible for the
            assault. Administration officials initially pointed to locals rushing Stevens to a local hospital as evidence of local goodwill from protesters who didn’t approve of the mob spinning out of control. Hicks said the American contingent did not go to retrieve Stevens from said hospital during the fight because they were fearful that it was a trap

          • Jana

            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

            (9) The US government did not seek permission from the Libyan government to fly any aircraft into Libyan airspace, aside from a drone. The witnesses testified that they believe the Libyan government would have complied with any such request. The fact that none
            was even made indicates that there was never a plan or intention to rush reinforcements to Benghazi.
            This renders the “would they have made it on time?” argument largely irrelevant — the facts in item #4 notwithstanding. Another important point about the “they wouldn’t have made it” defense: The assault lasted for eight hours and took place into two waves at two different compounds. How could anyone have known how long the fighting would last? How could
            they have anticipated that ex-Navy SEALs Woods and Doherty wouldn’t have been able to stave off the enemy for a few more hours? Help was not on the
            way. It was never sent.

            (10) Despite committee Democrats’ repeated claims and leading questions, reduced funding or “austerity” had absolutely nothing to do with the inadequate security presence on the ground. The State
            Department itself made this fact crystal clear at previous hearings, as did the administration’s internal “ARB” review. Why did multiple Democrats flog an obsolete, thoroughly-debunked explanation, if not to muddy the waters?

          • Jana

            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guyb

            (11) Oversight Democrats tried to cast doubt on Mark Thompson’s credibility, suggesting that he’d declined to participate in the administration’s ARB probe. Thompson corrected the record, noting that he
            “offered his services” to those investigators, who in turn did not invite him to testify. Democrats also claimed that the House hearings were slanted because the leaders of the ARB investigation were not invited to participate. In fact, Chairman Issa explicitly did invite them, as confirmed by letters obtained by ABC News. They chose not to participate. Democrats were dead wrong on both counts.

            (12) During her Congressional testimony on Benghazi, Sec. Clinton memorably asked, “what difference does it make?” in regards to the provenance of the administration’s incorrect talking points. Gregory Hicks and Eric Nordstrom both attempted to answer that question. Hicks did so in granular detail (the false explanation opened a nasty rift between the US and Libyan governments, impeding the FBI’s investigation for weeks). An emotional Nordstrom was more general (we lost friends; the truth matters):

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thanks for all the info Jana. This will help my to study more about the situation. I wish I had you as one of my squad leaders. With all the info you post, it would be impossible for our platoon to lose any battle. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “So help me God!”
            George Washington
            1st Swearing into office
            Devout Christian

        • disqus_szd4ncINaL

          All that we all can hope for..is that Ovomit gets taken out by one of his own.before he resigns.

    • NC

      Steven, It wasn’t Hillary or other lawyers who caused Nixon his problems! It was the hand writing on the wall from his own misconduct that caused Tricky Dick to catch that helicopter to the airport!!
      Over 69 million Americans voted for Hillary’s boss and they know the Reagan-bush record for Embassy attacks and 241Marines killed by terrorist attacks and lies about WMD that got 5000+ killed abroad! They also know what a witch hunt is! They have also seen the Party of No in action for over 4 year trying to make issues out of incidents! What was the result of all their efforts?? “ONE TERM” OBAMA BECAME A TWO TERMER!!
      WHY?? JUST LIKE JINDAL, THE REPUBLICAN, SAID!!! REPUBLCANS TAKING DUMB POSITIONS . YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL! IF YOU PI$$ THAT 69 MILLION OFF LIKE bush DID, YOU MAY NEVER SEE THE OVAL OFFICE AGAIN!!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Rant, rant, rant. Here is something dealing with the Obama bin Laden Care death panels.
        http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-ipab-boehner-mcconnell-death-panels-2013-5
        Neeeeed to understand what is going on in the world around you, not just spew hate. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian.”
        Thomas Jefferson
        Letter to Benjamin Waterhouse
        3rd U. S. President
        Founding father
        Orthodox Christian

  • James

    SOME Politicians are better off just keeping their mouths closed. That helps keep them from saying stupid things like “Unless you’re Native Americans you came from somewhere else.” That’s about what I’d expect from an Illegal Alien who’s never had a job or been able to prove he had an education.

    • Karolyn

      Unless somebody is totally ignorant, they should know what his meaning was.

      • Jana

        Then why don’t you explain it to us Carolyn.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        OK Karolyn could you tell us the meaning of “All this for a damned flag”, “For the first time in my life I am proud of my country.”, and “We need to pass the bill to see what is inside it.” means? Here is an interesting video.
        http://www.westernjournalism.com/3-reasons-benghazi-still-matters/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “I understand that I live in a Christian nation. Without a vibrant and vital Christianity, America is doomed, and without America, the West is doomed. God help Jews if America ever becomes a post Christian society! Just think of Europe!”
        Rabbi Daniel Lathan

      • Nadzieja Batki

        But you don’t even know what O’s words mean but you still take them as gospel truth because it is O saying them. It doesn’t follow that you will get rewarded by O for having so much faith in O.

        • Karolyn

          Why on earth would I think I would be getting “rewarded?” Twisted thinking…

          • disqus_szd4ncINaL

            The only twisted thinking that I see out here karolyn, is the ones between your ears,,thinking that Ovomit is such a great one,get a clue.

          • Karolyn

            And who said Obama is “such a great one/”

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I don’t believe anything he has ever said. It is hard to believe someone when they tell such bald faced lies to you. Here is an interesting article.
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/05/benghazi-alinsky-the-sacrifice-of-souls-for-the-unachievable-utopia/
          This just tells it all about how Obama bin Laden’s Alinsky teachings are involved in this. I guess the left and the 5th column could care less about colateral damage. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “The teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our civic an social life that it would be impossible for us to figure what life would be if these teachings were removed.”
          Theodore Roosevelt
          *Aren’t we experiencing these things already?

  • jimmie smith

    Benghazi=Utter incompetence…This from a government in charge of our security?

    • Wizzardly

      It’s worse than that. “Big Sis” has unchallenged authority to grant exceptions to the requirements of the pending immigration bill. She is also building an internal standing army for military-style police actions within our borders.

    • NC

      Jimmy, the 60 million plus who voted Democrat in 08 and 12 know the Republican record for Americans killed in embassy attacks on the Republican watch (many more than 4) The surpressed evidence that there were no wmd in Iraq before the invasion and the lies told of what progress was being made during the war( “we have turned the corner”__
      four or five times) REMEMBER?????
      THIS IS A WITCH HUNT AND INDEPENDENTS KNOW IT! YOU PEOPLE ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR! BIRTH CERTICATE , CHICAGO CONNECTION, MUSLIM CONNECTION, COLLEGE RECORDS, AND “OBAMA RECESSION” DID NOT WORK TO KEEP HIM FROM BEING ELECTED AND RE-ELECTED. THIS ATTEMPT TO MAKE AN ISSUE OUT OF AN INCIDENT AIN’T GOING TO AFFECT HIM EITHER!
      BUSH’S 25% APPROVAL RATING!!! NOW THERE IS “UTTER INCOMPETENCE.” 5000 AMERICANS KILLED BY TERRORIST ABROAD!!
      TELL ME ABOUT REAGANS RECORD FOR THE SECURITY OF OUR AMERICANS ABROAD! 241 MARINES KILLED BY TERRORIST> 17 KILLED IN JUST ONE OF SEVERAL EMBASSY ATTACKS ON HIS WATCH!!

      • Katrael

        Like Jimmy said, “This from a government in charge of our security?” His statement seems to be pointed at government in general and not just one part of it. And why not a witch hunt? Too many witches and wizards practicing evil on Capitol Hill to not go hunting. Also, such are the whims and wishes of the masses: today they love you tomorrow they’ll hate you and you shouldn’t be a politician (generally they are a wasteful and evil sort of people) if you can’t stand the flack.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          WWWWWhhhhhooooommmmmppppp! NC has just been choke slammed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “A patriot must be a religious man.”
          Thomas Jefferson

          • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

            Jefferson was right. Because Patriotism “is” a religion. The religion of State. While religion get’s a bad rap for promoting wars, it is governments that hide behind religion to promote their own agenda. Wrap it up in a flag and sell it to the masses. Is it really worth killing or dieing for any man’s agenda?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Show me an example of someone using religion, in America, to further some government ideology. The Muslims do that, the Hindus, Bhuddists, Shintos, and others, but, ooops! These groups did these things to the Christians. Atheists are doing it now in our country with the lie of separation of church and state, though we know there is no such thing. Here is an article as a good example of what I am talking about.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/10734/congressmen-seek-answers-about-religious-bigots-pentagon-influence/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This must leave you out.
            “Your first great duties, you are sensible, are those you owe to heaven, to your Creator, and Redeemer. Let those be ever present to your minds and exemplified in your lives and conduct.”
            William Samuel Johnson
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • macgyver1948

            samurai… Give it a rest and get real for a change and open your eyes and your mind if that is possible. Catholic Priests have often tried to influence law making and so have many Southern Protestant ministers as well as others. It goes on all too often. Is it that you do not like it when non Christian groups try to defend themselves that you object?

            To really have equality and liberty for religion in our country there can be no religious influence in law making of any kind, just the defending of all religious beliefs blindly or liberty will never work. The Founders knew this so why don’t you? There is no religion
            more important in our country than any other, not even yours.

            By the way swordsman(?), William Samuel Johnson, in his quote, is saying and talking about God and morality and not any particular religion as the other Founders have (proof of that is the lack of mention on any particular religion in the Constitution for VERY good reasons and your kind is part of those VERY good reasons), there is a huge difference.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            Very well said!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Though no mention of any religion is in the Constitution, the founders used their knowledge of the Bible to create both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Since our founders were Christians, it would be impossible for them not to use their beliefs in writing any of our founding documents, setting up of our government, passing laws, and rulings by the Supreme Court. It is called going by your conscience. Here is something for you Mac.
            http://www.rbvincent.com/usconstitution.htm
            Our Christian founding fathers believed in God and Jesus. Since Jesus is refered to in Article VII and references to a “Blesser” are made in the Preamble, ergo it makes it a Christian, not secular, document. Neeeeed to bone up on our history a little more. Bob, just be quiet. Leave it to you to come up behind someone. I’m sure your boyfriend is proud of you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “America is most justly called a Christian nation because Christianity has so largely shaped and molded it.”
            Chief Justice Brewer
            “The church must take right ground in regard to politics. Politics are part of a religion in a country as this, and Christians must do their duty to their country as a part of their duty to God.”
            Rev. Charles Finney

          • macgyver1948

            samurai…You can interpret the Constitution any way you want but you miss the point of it with this comment of yours. Rationalize the ways you want, how you want it to mean, and you come up with what you did. It doesn’t work that way…

            Doing it your way you have a country as we
            had with England and King George who saw his faith as the only right one and that is what the Founders knew they had to change for Liberty to work. Your way people of non Christian faiths would be second class. Why would people want to come here, as they did, if they knew they would not have total religious freedom, as they did? Nice try though but not in America with how you just negated Freedom Of Religion. Thank God the Founders weren’t as dumb as you when it comes to Liberty and Freedom.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Nice rant. Care to back up what you say with sources? As I have said before, there is no one religion being regulated by the government, but what I have posted is true and tells how our founding fathers believed. Since they were Christians, it would be impossible for them to put their faith and beliefs aside to write our founding documents. It would be like if a pastor came to your school for graduation, prepared to give the invocation and benediction, then someone came up to him and said, “Your prayer has to be secular.”, he couldn’t do it. It would be asking him to say God’s name, but not Jesus or the Holy Spirit. Now that is something you would ask him to do. Thank goodness our founding fathers were many times smarter than you. Here is something showing how a white house worker released certain e-mails, due to how Obama bin Laden truly is on the inside.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/05/white-house-email-bombshell-obamas-benghazi-lies-reflect-fear-of-messaging-ramifications/
            Just another case against the 5th column and the left. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”
            Daniel Webster
            Devout Christian

          • macgyver1948

            samurai.Ok, and Charlie too.. There is never a point to talk to a loon and you prove that all the time too. If you are going to negate what I “rant” about all the time then what is the point to you being acknowledged? You will not accept for others what you choose to
            disagree with, not convert to but accept for others, you are a waste of time to chat with.

            Officially there are no laws outlawing any aspects of various religious influences but if some denominations have there ways there will be mandates in law, for example to make Sunday the official Sabbath for
            the county. This we know even your Jesus taught differently because as a teacher of Torah, a rabbi, he knew God’s Sabbath, per Genesis, is the 7th
            day of the week, the day we humans have known for for at least a few millennia as Saturday. Are you going to say your Jesus was wrong??? In your eyes how could he be?

            See how we can justify what we choose to believe and if there is power behind it we might just see religions influencing lawmaking. Think how certain Christian denominations can try to influence over what they consider less Christian followings. Would you like it if a more dominate and one with a larger following denomination influenced laws in such a way that some of your beliefs were to “be looked down upon”?

            I will give you one example of something potentially dangerous to my religion. There have been numerous news reports indicating, on several occasions, groups of Mormons have performed what I call immoral baptisms. I say immoral because these Mormon groups would sneak into crematories and mortuaries and performed (immoral although there could be no other kind for Jews) baptisms on diseased Jews.
            During this last presidential Romney was asked by a reporter if he was ever involved. His response was “well, it was a long time ago (for me)”. As a Jew I would fear him if he ever became president and that is only one reason I do not like him.

            It can happen and nasty things have happened in history to my people as well as toward Christian faiths by more dominate Christians faiths. Why do you think the Pilgrims left England, from whom were they
            fleeing? If you think these sort of things cannot happen here and again then I have to considerer your mind too closed to continue further conversation. There have been prejudicial and violent acts
            again Jews and Christians in our nations history and often enough it was perpetrated by the more dominant denominations of Christians in those areas and times. IF you still believe there is no antisemitism AND a certain acceptable religions/denommination list in this country today then you are asleep. I suggest you read history/current events or get off the pot.

            888

            Mormons
            and unauthorized baptisms against Jews:

            A Twist on Posthumous Baptisms Leaves Jews Miffed at Mormon Rite

            http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/us/jews-take-issue-with-posthumous-mormon-baptisms-beliefs.html?_r=0

            888

            Holocaust
            Survivor Calls Out Romney Over Proxy Baptisms

            http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/02/14/elie_wiesel_to_mitt_romney_tell_mormon_church_to_stop_baptizing_jews_who_died_in_holocaust.html

            88888

            Why did the Pilgrims leave England?

            http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_the_Pilgrims_leave_England

            As a rule I don’t so much, any more, ask for linked proof here because all too often the articles in those links prove to be so slanted and are not a lot more than the authors opinion. I guess because I spent
            my career as a Software writer/designer/evaluator and Project Leader and I need real proof so opinions from writers who write from their hate don’t do it for me. I read a lot of Right driven articles and I leave their sites with an empty feeling when it comes to proof. I just wonder why so many people take the unproven as fact just because it comes from a linked site. I strongly feel that is why so many on the Right have hated Obama even before he was elected the first time,
            before knowing anything about him, and then there are those who hate him just because of his color. Some both, because of his color and becaue they are told to buy linked writers and their chosen news
            programs.

            samurai. (Ok, and Charlie too…)… How is all this for my rants? I included links this time but there are so many it would be difficult to choose but you samurai did ask. I suppose it wouldn’t really matter if the links would not agree with all your godly wisdom so what us the point?

            I see you still call him ”Obama bin Laden”. Did you miss your milk and cookies again little boy? Aw, name calling, the virtue of the small in age and in maturity. :-)

            RANT, RANT, RANT, etc…

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            How is your head-does it hurt yet?

            “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” – Albert Einstein

            You and I have tried to engage in a battle of wits using fact, reason and logic with two dim bulbs that have no power and are probably several cards short of a full mental deck.

            Where you and I see reality and accept the facts of life even if we do like or agree with those facts, these two see the world as they choose to even attempting to revise history to meet their agenda almost to a pathological process.

            Our mythical Asian fighter actually referenced a you-tube video that stated that Freemasonry was controlled indirectly by space aliens and that none of the moon landings ever happened-all filmed by Disney. Both have giant egos and a sanctimonious piety that no one will ever be able to change their minds.

            I was looking on past PLD threads to find the mythical Elaine that you were telling me about (she would make these two complete and they could become the three amigos). After looking at threads from two years ago with many of the same characters were having the same circular arguments that are still taking place today-Wow.

            That was an eye opener for me, time to take my retirement more seriously!

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…I like to think there is hope within all of God’s creatures but God helps those who help themselves, I have been told, and these guys do not know how. Delusion, and a sense of superiority, does that I
            guess. There have been some very nasty leaders in history who sound like them. It’s a very good thing these guys have no power.

            You say “even attempting to revise history to meet their agenda almost to a pathological process”. Hitler reinterpreted history, even the New Testament, to suite his agendas. Yep, some very nasty leaders
            from history.

            Elaine had plenty of comrades like these two, she doesn’t need more but she would accept them and praise them, maybe for just agreeing with her.

            Oh, by the way, my head hurts from these guys. I can’t believe there are still people who think as they any more but maybe it isn’t their thinking but also canned. Wasn’t there a weak sci-fi movie like that. Watch our movies and you too can think as we (want you to). LOL…

          • macgyver1948

            samurai…Nice try with “Until well into my life-time, the overwhelming majority of Americans believed that the United States was a Christian nation. In believing that, they did not desire the persecution of other religions…” or “nor did they believe that one Christian
            denomination should be favored at the expense of others”.

            This is a joke because not a lot of that is true. You need to study history in our country to know this is not true. Just look, for example, how Romney’s Mormon Faith was put down during this past TP/GOP presidential debates but that is just one of billions of
            examples. Thanks for the site but really is that your way of saying what a utopia we live in with religious bigotry even from Christians? Give me a break but do so with what is true and not an outright lie.
            Where have you been?

            If you do not know that Christan have persecuted not only those of non Christian faiths but also those they considered less Christan than they you have been sleeping all your life. We need “Separation Of
            Church And State” not only added to the Constitution but also enforced. There really does seem to be an acceptable religions list here, which must be done away with, and that we saw in the TPGOP debates.

            By the way, just so you do not go off on a dumb tangent and make up or redefine my meanings, I am not saying the majority of Christians are
            like this but many are. I personally have been hit by religious bigots and guess what faiths they were. My being Jewish wasn’t right for them so they had to try to drag me in to a life with Jesus, to save me I guess. I have heard other non Jews and ‘not good enough’
            Christians say similar stories.

            So stop trying to say there is no need for what is needed to maintain religious freedoms and liberty. You just do not get reality and you continue to prove that and that makes you and your kind a danger to Liberty and Freedom in the American ways.

          • macgyver1948

            samari… You said to me “Thank goodness our founding fathers were many times smarter than you”. I also thank God the founders were so much smarter than I when it comes to building a free nation, one will equal liberty for all. If they did it your ways, even by including the words Jesus and Christianity in the Constitution, we would have had the dire need for at least one or two more American Revolutionary Wars since their times. You just do not get reality, do you? That is what you get when you do not allow for other peoples rights and liberties and freedoms. Enjoy your dark life.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            “…in the Year of our Lord…”, makes a reference to Jesus. Lord stands for Jesus. You know, the certain time after the birth of Jesus. “…secure the blessings of liberty…”, makes a reference to a blesser. No one can bless but an eternal being. This refers us back to the Declaration of Independence which states, “…endowed by their Creator, of these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”, which tells us our God given rights are endowed, or blessed, by God. You just can’t seem to get it can you? I never said others had no God given rights, you did. I’m just going by how the Christian founding fathers set up this nation on Christian principles, Biblical Law taken directly from the Old and New Testiments, our laws based on the 10 Commandments, and a deep, rich belief in nature and nature’s God (The last one is in the first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.). It wasn’t too long ago where you could see the 10 Commandments in schools, court buildings, and government buildings, but the atheists (FFRF, etc.) are trying to get rid of them. Try talking to them about this stuff and not someone who knows. Here is an article that gives a good example.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/anti-christian-war-raging-at-pentagon/
            This is the perfect example of how they are trying to destroy this country from the inside out. Talk to them about this and not me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “I do not consider atheists to be citizens, nor do I consider them to be patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”
            George H. W. Bush
            41st U. S. President

          • macgyver1948

            Samuraui…You start by saying “”…in the Year of our Lord…”, makes a reference to Jesus. Lord stands for Jesus”.

            Well to you it does and to anyone who wants to
            believe that. Jews do not and unless you are beyond stupid by now how can you not understand that and still push it on me? How many times have we gone over this? You just refuse the rights of others and that
            is what makes you UN-American.

            Let’s see if you are capable of understanding this. To Jews “lord” can be God, as in “the Lord is God, the Lord is One”, but it would be God Himself. We do not accept or believe in split personalities when it comes to God. Your trinity is a violation of monotheism for us.
            God is One and not split into many parts. That is one thing for us, another is we are forbidden to believe in or worship or accept any form of mythology’s demi-gods. That is the from the Second Commandanr and some from the First. Your bible(s) defines Jesus as a demi-god in it’s laid out description of divine conception so for us in no way can Jesus be a god. As far as The Hebrew Messiah goes, Hebrew Prophets say the Hebrew Messiah would be a man, all mortal (so how do you think the Hebrew Prophets got that from? Let’s see if you are intelligent to figure out that simple question), so that disqualifies Jesus from being the Hebrew Messiah from conception. He was just a man, a rabbi and never a Hebrew King of a prophet either.

            I told you these things several times before as I have told you I do not care if you choose to believe in Jesus as you say you do. I also told you I would defend your right to how you choose to believe but don’t push your stuff on me. What does it take to get through that
            thick skull of yours?

            Our creator is God, not your Jesus. You go on to say “Declaration of Independence which states, “…endowed by their Creator, of these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”, which tells us our God given rights are endowed, or blessed, by God””.
            You just can’t seem to get it can you?”. When the Founders referred to God or “our Creator” they were taking to us about God so it is you who will not get it. We could have decent conversations if you would just grow up and allow others their ways of believing. I have for the most part of my life had very good conversations respectfully with both Catholics and Protestants, as well as with Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus, and those with respect for others, not as
            you. What do you think is the difference between people like you and those who have respect of others to have decent adult conversations?

            You do not have the right, Constitutionally or otherwise, to disallow atheists US citizenship. Are you a Nazi to think you have that right? Just asking because I wonder about the real you.

            I do love this country, even with all its faults, and I have huge faith in God and I, since I have respect for all peoples rights and beliefs, I consider myself a patriot but I do not see you as one.

          • vicki
          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            True that! True that! That would count certain posters on this site. Good news! Good news! Gosnell was found guilty of killing babies that survived late term abortions and may face the death penalty.
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/05/13/kermit-gosnell-jury-hung-on-two-counts-doesnt-say-which-ones/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The true Christian is the true citizen.”
            Theodore Roosevelt

          • Bob666
          • Nadzieja Batki

            Which version of Patriotism are you talking about?
            The Conservatives and Libertarians and the other smaller units have their own definition and version of Patriotism. The Dems/Progs/Leftists have their own version.
            The third entity “government” can move in and direct or manipulate “Patriotism” depending on who is in power and also who’s ideology the employees of a government bureaucracy follow.

          • macgyver1948

            Nadzieja Batki..For me a short
            definition of Patriotism, a Patriot, is “a defender of Liberty and Freedom for all, equally for all as well as for ones own”. That is my wording so don’t look for it as a quote. Another part of my definition includes, “I will defend your liberty even if it disagrees with what I want for me but it can’t infringe on my ways for me”.

            I like “I may not like what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. A often misused and misquoted Voltaire saying but it speaks to liberty and patriotism. When we limit others
            to only what we want for ourselves, and even declare them wrong for wanting their liberties their ways for themselves, we destroy the very nature and spirit of liberty and patriotism. I do not want to either control or change you but watch out if you try it with me.

            This is my Liberal thinking and feeling. If you do not like it, well, I think I said what I would think of that.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            If you are such a Liberal as you say, then why do you vote with the Dems/Progs/Leftists?

          • macgyver1948

            Nadzieja…
            I hate my answer to you on this but it is the only honest truthful
            answer I can give. The Dems are the least of the evils concerning our
            choices as I see them. There is a lot more to that but that is enough
            for now.

          • Katrael

            samurai, if you’re saying I stuck it to em: thank you and that was my intention. NC and his kind deserve everything they get and more. I don’t know if I’m a real patriot but I do love my creator and my country.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Then you are a patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “A patriot must be a religious man.”
            Thomas Jefferson

      • ldazzle

        NC, you’re living proof that ‘some people are sicker than others’, if you accept this crap. Think of past wars, and who got us into them? Viet Nam is a good start.

        • nc

          Larry, the military list the first American killed in southeast Asia after World War II were in the 50s were during IKE’s years! Ever wonder what they were doing there??

          • macgyver1948

            NC… you confused them with the facts and the truth so it does show who really is “sicker than others”. Facts, and history would be “crap” to them if they do not want it entered into evidence. All standard Right thinking. Very good points and reminders you made NC.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            But your version of facts and history is crap. So your complaint that the “Right” is supposedly forcing their facts and history on your Leftist ideological cohorts tells that you are a no brainer victim playing emotion driven immaturist.

          • vicki

            To confuse them with facts NC would have had to provide some. There are NO blue links in his post.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            They were military obervers and advisers. Though they went there under Ike, How many more went and died under Kennedy and Johnson? Care to answer my question or don’t you have the nads? Mac, your comment shows you are very bereffed of knowledge on the subject and the subject of Vietnam. Here is a good article from Ann Coulter about libs and evangelicals.
            http://www.humanevents.com/2013/05/08/coulter-beware-of-liberals-who-come-in-evangelicals-clothing/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”
            Daniel Webster
            Devout Christian

          • nc

            Sam, when the last Americans left Vietnam, Republicans had occupied the White House for more than 5 years! It would seem to me that both parties share the responsibility of what happened in Vietnam unless you are going to give the Republicans a 5 year pass! How many Americans died in those 5 years??

            That is an “answer” but you may not like it!!

          • Bob666

            Sammy,

            We sent advisors the French Indo China at the end of 1956 after the French sucked us into that vortex. that ball started rolling long before Kennedy and Johnson.

      • Jana

        Yes, Alex already brought this up in an earlier post as he
        said, *** during Cheneybush U.S. embassies around the world were attacked 54 times with a net loss of ELEVEN
        American lives***

        I replied back to him: But they weren’t ignored, like Benghazi was, and the help that could have been sent to them wasn’t told to STAND DOWN like it was in Benghazi 2 , that is TWO times!

        54 attacks and only 11 lost in 54 attacks? That is really great especially when we had one attack and four lost in just one attack, and this because they were left to die. Sacrificed, and for what???

        It’s also so convenient that you forget the Iraq war was voted on by BOTH parties and they all were sure there were WMD’S in Iraq.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Just don’t answer NC as he knows not what he does. Here is an article and video from the Washington Times about Benghazi.
          http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/8/hurt-benghazi-shows-democrats-most-desperate/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          ou need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “History is God’s providence in human affairs.”
          Daniel Webster
          Devout Christian

          • vicki

            We comment back to NC not to change his mind but to combat his lies. Newer readers may not as easily pickup on them.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I understand completely. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “A patriot must be a religious man.”
            Thomas Jefferson

        • NC

          Jana, what you forgot is that neither vote REQUIRED bush to invade if there was information to the contrary that WMD were NOT present and there was such information in the CIA AND IT WAS THE CORRECT INFORMATION!!!
          Something else you FORGOT IS THAT BUSH SAID HE WAS “THE DECIDER” AND THE COMMANDER-IN- CHIEF SO HE AND HE ALONE DECIDED TO INVADE!NO ONE FORCED HIM TO SEND TROOPS INTO IRAQ! NOT CONGRESS AND NOT THE UN! IT WAS “THE DECIDER” AND HE WAS IMCOMPETENT!

          HE HAD A SYMPATHY APPROVAL OF 90% AFTER 9/11 AND THE MORE HE “DECIDED” AFTER THAT THE LOWER HIS APPROVAL RATING FELL! ALL THE WAY TO 25%! THAT IS “TERMINAL” INCOMPETENCE! IN FACT, OBAMA DIDN’ BEAT Mc PAIN IT WAS BUSH’S INCOMPETENCE THAT beat McPain and CARIBOU BARBIE!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Care to cite a source as to that information? I’ll bet Bush would do a lot better job than you. Why the all caps? You like yelling at people? You lie about Iraq. He had approval from the Senate and Congress before invading Iraq and Afgahnistan. You friend Hitlery voted to go into both of them, so what is your point? Bush, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! Incompetence, baaaaa! If you think that Bush was incompetent, Obama bin Laden has “O” intelligence whatsoever. Here is what some left wing wacko professor thinks about people.
            http://www.americanvision.com/7933/meat-machines-brains-bodies-and-babies/
            This is how you and your ilk think. Time to clean house, our country, of people that think this way, this counts you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위헤서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “We recognize no sovereign but God, no King but Jesus.”
            John Adams
            2nd U. S. President
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

      • organicroseski2

        I will just address one point. The approval rating for George W. Bush reported by CBS 4-22-13 from a ABC Poll was 47%. I just have to add: one problem with Benghazi–your man and his team let our men down–big time–too Chicken to make a honorable call.

        • NC

          ORGAN, WHY WERE THE POLLS FROM THE SAME SOURCE AT 25% WHEN THE PEOPLE WERE SUFFERING THE FULL EFFECTS OF HIS DECISIONS??
          THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THAT EX-PRESIDENTS ALWAYS LOOK BETTER IN THE REAR VIEW MRROR!

      • vicki

        How about you tell us how long each of those attacks lasted as compared to the Bengazi attack. For extra credit you can tell us how many times American troops were ordered to stand down rather than respond to the incidents.

        • NC

          vICKI,WHY WERE THE SENTRIES IN LEBANON STANDING SECURITY UNDER ORDERS FOR NO BULLETS OR MAGAZINES IN THEIR WEAPONS? THEY WERE SECONDS AWAY AND COULD NOT STOP THE CARNAGE OF 241 YOUNG DEAD AMERICANS UNDER THOSE ORDERS ! THIS WAS IN A SMALL COUNTRY THAT SUFFERED A TERRORIST ATTACK ON AN AMERICAN EMBASSY THAT KILLED 17, I REPEAT, 17 AMERICANS JUST MONTHS BEFORE!

          WHERE WAS THE ALERT?
          WHERE WAS THE URGENCY IN THE OFFICE OF THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF REAGAN TO DOUBLE DOWN ON SECURITY INSTEAD OF CALLING IT OFF WITH EMPTY WEAPONS! JUST AS IMPORTANT, WHERE WAS THE CONSERVATIVE OUT CRY AT THAT LAXITY?????????????DOUBLE STANDARD????

  • CharlesHiggins

    Only the laugh track and the music are audible in this edition of the great eight. As important as your information is you really should check and make sure your links work and everything else.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4DW23G4VU2HJAPBFZ7OHNC2FVY John

      Must be your computer speakers or computer, because it was loud and clear for me and I don’t have the best connections.

  • tyrant

    Less palabber from the Abomanation Obama, who will he throw under the bus next?

  • WTS/JAY

    WATERGATE – 1974

    “What did the President know and when did he know it? -Hillary Clinton

    BENGHAZIGATE – 2013

    “What difference does it make?” -Hillary Clinton

    • Chuck Rogers II

      Because it is her on the hot seat

    • Warrior

      A short 40 years and 12 pant suit sizes later! “What does one expect from a PIG but a grunt”? Time for the “mafia” families to go. Well, at least the “fwanks” can’t multiply.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      “It doesn’t matter how they died.”
      Hitlery Clinton
      Here is an intersting article and video. Let’s see what the left wing wackos and the 5th column say about this.
      http://www.patriotupdate.com/2013/05/benghazi-lies-uncovered-at-last
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “While the great body of freeholders are aquainted with the duties which they owe to their God,to themselves, and to men, they will remain free. But if ignorance and depravity should prevail, they will inevitably lead to slavery and ruin.”
      Samuel Huntington
      January 09, 1788
      Founding father
      Devout Christian

    • Visitor

      A little know fact, buried by most of the media, especially Fox Noise on its perpetual witch hunt, and self-serving grandstanders like Rand Paul, is that the American Ambassador to Libya, a former Peace Corps volunteer who spoke fluent Arabic, personally requested a smaller Marine contingent as he did not want to appear hostile and make it seem like the US was invading.

      This “scandal” is blown way out of proportion… as if the Secretary of State personally assigns security personnel to every embassy on the planet. It is tragic that we lost an ambassador and his colleagues, but in the confusing aftermath of the attack with tens of thousands of Muslims going ape [expletive deleted] about a stupid movie it is easy to understand that inaccurate information was being passed on…

      Remember Colin Powell’s speech about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Thousands of lives were lost as a result of those lies. Where was Rand Paul then? … and toad faced Ben Crystal.

      Let’s focus on REAL problems.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        No good response due to lack of intelligence and no caring for how people died. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “We recognize no sovereign but God, no King but Jesus.”
        John Adams
        2nd U. S. President
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

      • Ted Crawford

        Interesting! You claim, without providing even a single shread of proof, Ambassador Stevens “personally requested a smaller contingent of Marines”, in direct conflict with the significant number of pieces of correspondance, in plain view, indicating that just the opposite was the case! Then, in the typical Progressive disingenuous style chant “He did it Firrrrrst!” WOW ! !

      • vicki

        American Ambassador to Libya, a former Peace Corps volunteer who spoke fluent Arabic, personally requested a smaller Marine contingent as he did not want to appear hostile and make it seem like the US was invading.
        (snip)
        Let’s focus on REAL problems

        Lets start with the problem of your proof by bald assertion.
        Please to provide the evidence that any such request was made. Oh and your argument to ridicule at the beginning does not help your case at all.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Here, here! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves visitor out.
          “The Constitution, a system which without the Finger of God, never could have been suggested.”
          Alexander Hamilton
          Founding father
          Devout Christian

  • WTS/JAY

    The Ambassador asked for help THIRTEEN times. The night our Ambassador and 3 other Americans were murdered, Barack Obama went to bed…rested up and then flew to Las Vegas for a fundraiser with Beyonce and Jay-Z.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is an article dealing with e-mails from Benghazi.
      http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/15345-sept-12-e-mail-identified-terrorist-group-in-benghazi-attack
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “I observe in the Virginia Constitution an abridgement of a right I do not approve. It is the incapacitation of a clergyman from being elected.”
      Thomas Jefferson

      • Jana

        GREAT ARTICLE. Here is a portion of that article:

        Gowdy said the September 12 e-mail was sent to senior State
        Department officers from Elizabeth Jones, acting secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs. The South Carolina Republican, a member of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, read the message aloud at a committee hearing on the attack that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens and three members of his staff. Gowdy said the e-mail is not classified, but claimed Democrats on the committee had blocked its release. He urged the Democrats to exercise “bi-partisanship” by agreeing to make the document public.

        Jones wrote that she had spoken with the Libyan ambassador to Washington, Gowdy said, quoting: “I told him that the group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with Islamic terrorists.”

        “Let me say that again,” Gowdy said. “She told him. The State
        Department, on September 12, days before our ambassador went on national television, is telling the ambassador to Libya the group that conducted the attacks, Ansar al-Sharia, is affiliated with terrorists.”

        Gregory Hicks, deputy chief of mission under Stevens, said Libyan President Mohammed Magariaf was on U.S. television talking about the planned terrorist attack on the U.S. mission on the same day Rice was on five Sunday morning interview programs saying a “spontaneous demonstration” at the consulate had been “hijacked” by extremists.

        Hicks, who was at the U.S. embassy in Tripoli at the time, told the committee there was no evidence of a demonstration prior to the heavily armed assault and that he was certain Stevens would have called to tell him about it if there had been.

        When asked what impact Rice’s comments had on relations between the United States and the Libyan government, Hicks said U.S. officials ran
        into bureaucratic resistance and that it took about 18 days before the FBI was allowed in to investigate.

        “The crime scene was unsecured for 18 days?” Gowdy asked, his voice rising.

        “Yes,” Hicks replied.********

        Just think, the Libyan President Mohammed Magariaf knew the truth and watched while our great Liar in Chief Lied to the American people. That is why he reacted like he did. Think the United States got any Brownie points on Obama’s character and lies?

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          True that! True that! But alas! Maybe the people in Benghazi were deemed expendable due to what they thought about Obama bin Laden and his policies. Maybe they woke up from their sheeple dreams and found out the truth, only to be killed after doing so? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “May the blessing of God rest upon the event of this day.”
          John Quincy Adams
          February 08, 1825

  • dan

    Hey Ben…Obama is the Whopper King…millions told

    I’m a native american born in Indiana…which makes me an IndianI

  • Bob666

    As I have said, Ben is consistent, But the mark Sanford piece was good.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      We know what you mean by “Ben is consistent” but Ben being consistent is a good thing. We know that Ben is not tossed around by ideological winds and his yes is a yes and his no is a no.

      • Bob666

        For people of linear and narrow thought, that might be correct. For those who look at the whole world-big picture and like to deal with facts regardless of how those facts shake out, Ben is a Moron.

        • Karolyn

          Bravo!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. You deal with facts, no matter what the outcome? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Thanks for the laugh. Now go somewhere else to peddle your papers, because we are not buying what you are selling. Also, I see you take this opportunity for a little self agrandizement. Nothing like a little person trying to make themselves look big. Remember the posting policy about not writing remarks, like “moron”, about Bob Livingston or any of his staff, hmmm? Keep going like this and you’ll end up like some others that were given the heave ho. Here is a video showing Justice Jeanie blasting Obama bin Laden and Hitlery with facts.
          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/05/judge-jeannie-fact-blasts-hillary-obama-administration-on-benghazi-attack/
          This will be the end of Hitlery’s political career. I guess it is true that what you sow, so shall you reap. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “No candid observer will deny that whatever of good there may be in our American civilization is the product of Christianity.”
          Theodore Roosevelt
          U. S. President
          Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy Babble,
            There are no Space Aliens in my facts-what about yours?

            Losing is your only option, Ha,Ha, ha, ha, ha!

            Nothing like a little person trying to make themselves look big-like calling oneself a Samurai?

          • Ted Crawford

            It would be impossible for anyone to determine whether or not there are any “Space Aliens” in your facts(?) ! Given that you only spew innuendo and rhetoric, and rarely,if ever any facts!

          • Bob666

            Hello Ted,

            The space aliens were in he source that Sammy posted to me. As far as innuendo and rhetoric, perhaps you could point out one of my post to clarify.
            From looking at the post that you have made, are you really in a position to make a statement like that????

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Are you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.”
            John 3:16
            Jesus Christ
            KJV

          • Bob666

            Sammy-You are the one who brings in the space aliens in your “source” a couple of weeks ago. Do you have a short memory?

            Trolling the web looking for trash on an organization you have no factual knowledge of because of your distain for one man? Baring false witness again a group of people that you do not know, is that your example of being a Christian Man?

            It’s pretty sad Sammy, Very, Very Sad.

          • vicki

            You would have to have provided us with facts before your statement would be of any relevance.

          • Bob666

            Vicki,

            good to see that you are still the queen of double standards. Below is Sammy’s source in a post to me. You can go back and search his 282 post to see it in his context.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT2G4fMT4o

            Bottom line, it is a scream stating the Illuminati are controlled by space aliens and all of the moon landings were filmed on a Disney movie set.

            Those are the “facts” from Sammy and I sure that you will spin a reason to justify why both of you are right and I am wrong.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            If you want to know anything about Bob, just go to this site:
            http://www.freemasonrywatch.org
            You will see how he and his group are connected with the Bilderbergs and the Illuminati. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except by me.”
            John 14:6
            Jesus Christ
            KJV

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy, you must be stinging again.

            Trolling the internet to bare false witness again?

            What a fine example of a Christian you are. Should I see if there are references to space aliens in this one like the last “legitimate source” that you cited?

            Pretty Sad Sammy-are you really that insecure?

        • vicki

          Thus bob666 confirms my assertion in another thread that his comment “Ben is consistent” is an ad hominem.

          Not that we really needed the confirmation but it is nice.

          • Bob666

            Yes, your assertion, what all of us live for.

            When I read your post, this is what I envision:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM

          • vicki

            How sweet. A whole video ad hominem just for me.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… the thing is Ben is ALL about the laugh and he need his own off-the-shelf laughter that should be canned. Oh wait, it is canned and reused. but the substance is not necessary, just the jokes, as bad as they are.

    • vicki

      Ad hominem against Ben. Evidence thoughtfully provided by Bob666 below.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        He should remember the comment policy of this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained for it is the only safegaurd of our liberties.”
        Abraham Lincoln
        16th U. S. President
        Christian

      • Bob666

        Oh Vicki,
        Your attempt at a double standard is successful even if your attempt to label an ad hominem is not. What is above is an observation of fact an conformation that for once Ben actually said something amusing.

        If you want to be the self appointed ad hominem police on PLD, then you have to apply that effort to many of those who share your views and truly are egregious in their post.

        Otherwise-it’s a lazy attempt to put someone down..

        • vicki

          Bob666 writes:

          As I have said, Ben is consistent

          Nadzieja Batki writes to Bob666

          We know what you mean by “Ben is consistent but Ben being consistent is a good thing.”

          Bob666 writes to Nadzieja:

          For people of linear and narrow thought, that might be correct. For those who look at the whole world-big picture and like to deal with facts regardless of how those facts shake out, Ben is a Moron.

          I rest my case.

          • Bob666

            Yo Vicki,
            again, an observation.
            For people of linear and narrow thought, that might be correct.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM

          • vicki

            Not once but twice in the same thread you honor me with a video ad hominem. Of course it is just a copy of the other one but still its the thought that counts.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Of course. That is all he is capable of understanding. Here is an article, with videos, about Seal Team VI.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/navy-seals-sacrificed-to-political-correctness/
            Here is an article that would describe Benghazi.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/05/bombshell-mayor-sarah-palin-denied-police-protection-to-family-resulting-in-their-murder
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount contain my religion.”
            John Adams
            2nd U. S. President
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Well Vicki,
            your adherence to the double standard inspires me, what can I say?

          • vicki

            Really? You mean that I have inspired you to see truth instead of lies? Cool.

          • Bob666

            Yo Vicki,

            If that is your rationalization for the day-Have at it. I have seen plenty of ad hominem’s here today, why are you so reserved as the ad hominem enforcer?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewQzi4RhGQ

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Another ad hominem. Classic 5th column strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
            Ronald Reagan

          • Bob666

            Sammy,
            there is no ad hominem in there what so ever.
            As your wife says; Grow Up!

          • vicki

            You’re a big boy. Point them out yourself.

          • Bob666

            Oh Vicki,

            “judge not lest you be judged”

            You seem to be the self appointed the ad hominem police.

  • Chuck Rogers II

    So the story line is now unless your an American Indian we are all illegal immigrants?? As I recall history and from what I have read the Indians migrated here to this country also. Since everyone is an immigrant anyway what is wrong with some laws to control it??

    • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

      The American Indian migrated to a land that was previously uninhabited. And therefore not illegal. All others used force to displace the original settler.

      Tell Coca-cola and Sara Lee, and the meat and food processors, etc., to stop hiring illegals, and fine anyone who does 5 days wages for each day worked, and it would stop.

      Quit putting out the ‘Cheese” and the mice and rats go away! It’s the employers fault for offering jobs to illegals. Not the other way around!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If the companies are hiring illegals it is because they know that no one will stop them. Any fines they will have to pay is pittance. Laws will be changed to accomodate what already exists, illegal hiring.

        The companies do not have to pay full wages and fulfill all the requirements of labor laws. What labor laws were put into existance by demand of the Leftists are now being gotten around.
        So now America suffers.

  • FreedomFighter

    Great 8 as usual.
    Anyone born in the US is a native, by definition. We have a moron as president.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

  • Karolyn

    Maybe if everybody started paying attention to what’s going on in their own back yards instead of bitching and complaining about the President and other politicians so much, we might make some headway. I’m thankful that even though I live in Podunk, South Carolina, we have pretty good cops here, and when somebody screws up, it gets taken care of. Check out this Facebook page. The most recent story is of a man being beaten to death by police in Bakersfield, CA. Facebook has brought so much awareness to people of what is going on all over the country, from people being beaten to death by cops to dogs being shot in their own backyards by cops, as well as other travesties.
    https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA?hc_location=stream

    • Ringgo1

      Thread-jack much? Your attempted distractions will not work.

      • Karolyn

        I often post off-topic things that I believe people would be interested in. Not distracting – just providing info. I would think you would enjoy hearing stories about the police state.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Why would you believe that we would want stories about the “police state”. Who gave you that mandate to post those stories? Considering that those incidents are created by people of your Leftist ideological bent.

          • Karolyn

            HAHAHAHAHA! My “leftist ideological bent?” Think again. Just because I play devil’s advocate here, pointing out different viewpoints, does not make me a “leftist.” I have repeatedly pointed out that I am a left-leaning libertarian. I DO NOT GIVE BLANKET SUPPORT TO ALL LIBERAL/LEFT/DEMOCRAT IDEAS! Geez! When will people get it through their heads? I do not fit into your neat little box! just because you fit into a neat little box.

          • Ted Crawford

            You need to understand Karolyn. shortly after I became aware of this site, a couple of years ago, there was an article on Vietnam. Karolyn then, proudly claimed to have been part of that “Tune In, Turn On, Drop out, free drugs, free sex” group! The all knowing group that delighted in refering to my peers and I as “Murder’s”, “Rapist’s” and the ever popular “Baby Killer’s”
            A couple of weeks ago when I refered to that , ….wait for it….., She denied it!
            Progressives, are always ‘for it before they are against it’ or vis a versa! Rarley into the present. And when they are their primary arguement is “Well he did it first!”

          • Karolyn

            I never demonstrated against Viet Nam, although I was against it. My ex-husband was there, and we never really even talked about it. He apparently did not want to. All I knew about his time served was that he saved a guy’s life and ended up with schrapnel in his back. I met him shortly after he returned home in ’68. He was turned onto drugs in Viet Nam. I have no problem admitting I was a quasi-hippie.

    • vicki

      I have to side with Karolyn here. The info she brought is relevant to the current discussion simply because it shows that corruption we see at the top did not magically appear. It came from the lack of even simple morality on the part of those we choose to serve us. Be it police or politician.

      • Karolyn

        Thank you Vicki. It is nice when somebody actually reads and understands what I’m saying rather than jumping to conclusions just because it’s me. We really need to pay attention to what is going on locally and no get snowed by local politicians’ power and influence. Nowadays there is so much we can do just by way of social media.

        • vicki

          Agreed. Social media defeats lobbyists and big money. The sooner conservatives learn that the sooner we can have a proper impact on politics. Liberals know and use social media so we better make better use of it too.

  • WTS/JAY

    Thanks to the record, the testimony, and the expert witnesses today at the Benghazi hearings, we know with confidence that:

    1. State department officials, including Ambassador Stevens, made numerous requests for increased security to protect our people in Benghazi.

    2. Those requests went to individuals at the highest levels of our government.

    3. Those requests were systematically denied.

    4. Indeed, security protections were reduced, the exact opposite of recommendations coming from experts on the ground.

    5. American government officials at the highest levels were warned about terrorist aggression in Benghazi and the likelihood an attack was imminent.

    6. Ambassador Stevens traveled from Tripoli to Benghazi in September of 2012 in order to forward the cause of formalizing and stabilizing the diplomatic mission in Libya, according to orders from Sec. Clinton.

    7. Government officials at the highest levels knew within hours that the 9/11/12 attack was perpetrated by identifiable terrorists, yet those officials purposefully lied to the American people, blaming the attack on a protest that got out of hand, based on rage over an offensive video. Even the Libyan president confirmed the attack was terrorist-inspired, planned and executed, and it had nothing to do with an offensive video.

    8. The terrorism response team was not even activated.

    9. Four Americans died trying to defend themselves and fellow Americans doing legitimate work in Benghazi. They called for help. Help was denied by government officials at the highest levels, even though resources were available.

    10. UPWARDS OF 30 OTHER AMERICANS WHO SURVIVED HAVE BEEN LOCKED DOWN, SEQUESTERED AND SILENCED FOR EIGHT MONTHS.

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/cover-up-benghazi-testimony-contradicts-obama-and-clinton/

    • NC

      WTS, the most profound INFORMATION “from experts on the ground” was from bush’s men who informed the President JUST DAYS INTO THE INVASION that they had found NO WMD AND THEY DIDN’T EXPECTE TO FIND ANY!!!!!!!!! AND DIDN’T FIND ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS WAS IGNORED AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL AND 5000 YOUNG AMERICANS DIED AS A RESULT.!!!!

      • WTS/JAY

        Be that as it may, NC, presently, we are dealing with the Benghazi case. It serves no purpose to dredge up the past as a means to avoid dealing with what is currently on the docket. Consider; should the GOP win the next election, and should an incident come forward were an investigation were to reveal loss of life due to criminal-incompatence; would you except the recommendation that it would be best that it be ignored/swept under the rug, because the previous administration was afforded that luxury? I think not! I know, it sucks. Your man in Washington, that you adore, and his aides, are in the hot-seat. And that doesn’t sit too well with you, does it? Especially when you’ve held them in such high regards, even claimed that they were paragons of virtue, and could do no wrong; only to have your “illusion” shattered by this most heinous show of disregard and contempt for Americans abroad. It’s a tough lesson you are going to have to learn, NC…and that is; don’t put your trust in man, no matter what the party-label, as such behaviour only makes you look like a witless-fool!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        NC you lie! I was there when they found the mobile labs and equipment used in the making of nuclear weapons. Iraq, baaaaa! WMDs, baaaaa! Bush, baaaaa! Bush is not in now, but Obama bin Laden is. So anything that has happened since January 2009 is on Obama bin Laden’s shoulders. Since there were reports of yellow cake uranium making it to Canada from Iraq, along with chemical weapons going to Syria, why don’t you check them out instead of sounding like an insolent fool? Couldn’t this be why Syria was able to use these weapons on the rebels? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Here is something showing how Obama bin Laden is abusing his position.
        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/10763/treasonous-president-obama-to-charge-14-governors-with-treason/#xzz2Stzthnyt
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “To the free and universal reading of the Bible in that age, men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty. The Bible is a book which teaches man his own individual responsibility, his own dignity, and his equality with his fellow man.”
        Daniel Webster
        Devout Christian

  • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

    Note to Ben,
    Please turn down the ‘laugh track’ or record live! Once you notice it (artificial laughter), you cannot hear anything else. Good job otherwise! Thanks

  • ChuckB

    The outcome will be the same as fast and furious, buried and forgotten, Hillary can’t be touched short of God.stepping in, she got away with the murder of Vince Foster. Barry could have shot the ambassador himself and those who worship him would still kneel at the alter. The Republicans are afraid of their shadow. otherwise why did they let this slide before the election, especially Romney, he had the stage and refused to confront Barry, No hope.