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Buh-Bye, Barney!

December 3, 2011 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://DoULoveJesus.Wordpress.com Mark Dabney

    IRAN HAS NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM YOU SELF-RIGHTEOUS NEOCONSERVATIVE TREASONIST [Treasonist: one that masquerades their treason as so called "patriotism"] You give credibility to the same war mongering propaganda because you refused to acknowledge – they lied to us before – they are lying to us now – and the likes of @$$hats like you should be put on trial for treason.

    “Israel” has hundreds of state of the art nuclear devices & delivery systems – is not a signatory to the NPT as would be required BY LAW to receive our foreign aid. Meanwhile – I stand with the 25,000 Iranian Jews that are right now peacefully coexisting with their Muslim friends & neighbors. It is not that you ZioNazis want to acknowledge the Anti-Zionist Jews – and other Jews of conscience that oppose the abusive practices that people like you routinely ignore. You deem duplicity a “blessing” abject moral blindness of dismissing how criminal elements have provoked hostitility a good thing – and then you twist it to make it out that the nation on the whole would be impugned.

    As for OWS – they are certainly NO MORE SCREWED UP THAN YOU ARE- they are on the Hegelian Left – you are on the Hegelian Right – but at least in my experience they are not smug self-righteous hypocrites.

    • http://google gary gerke

      You sound like many other dissatisfied Obama supporters, you all refuse to admit you made a horrible choice and you continue to voice the liberal talking points that make no sense. The annointed one has proven to be a total fraud….enjoy your hope and change!

      • Mr & Mrs Cyrus N Moreno

        Impeach the traitor – the anti-American, communist, Kenyan citizen, Barry H. Soetoro, a.k.a. Barack H. Obama, as told by his radical communist Grandmother, who was present at his birth in Kenya.

        • http://personlibertydigest personallitycrisis

          What a pair of dimwits, go shove a birth certificate up your collective asses.

          • RockyRoad

            Another GREAT video BEN! Many thanks Sir!

            As to those that do not agree with him then why are you here?

            Stick around and you may learn something. ;)

          • bob wire

            yea! Great work Ben, you should have been the “activities director” on the Titanic. This ability to make a few people rejoice and cheer facing hopelessly dismal circumstances is a rare gift you should always share.

          • eddie47d

            Do all the right wing lemmings get a choice which cliff they get to go off of today or are they all herded off of the same one?

          • http://naver samurai

            Your nama says it all, personality crisis. You’re definately in need of a personality. Everything about Obama bin Laden is fake and has been proven factual over the last 3 years, so what’s your point? Must be a lib by the way you let loose a personal attack like that. Classic liberal strategy. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • bob wire

            It’s been proven to “believers” and you Sir.,~ the guy that encourages everyone to listens for popping sounds. This mental imagery that is evidently “burnt” into your brain as you repeated it and repeated and repeated over and over, again and again,leaving little doubt it holds some significance to you, something that your yourself much has experienced.

            I would say off-hand, that in this day and age, any document or witness testimony could be suspect. What anyone would need to contest such matters is collaborating testimony and several collaborating documents of significant importance and a large pile of loot to pay $600.00 per. hour Attorney fees, filing fees and court cost and something of monetary value to gain.

            If you don’t have all of these things or know how to acquire them, this is very much a dead issue that only the most desperately brain-dead would continue to purse.

            W’s win of the 1st chair position was questionable, not once but twice!

            A single judgeship awarded W his second term and there should have been rioting in the streets over it.

            But democrats accepted it while not liking it one bit. But we didn’t cry, whine , piss and moan and call foul for three damn years. We lost! We accepted it! and moved on ~ would you and your pathetically depraved friends please “attempt” to be a big enough person to do the same and quit entertaining this conspiracy and cover-up folly that has no end and leads to nowhere but LA LA Land?

            Accept the fact, ~ you can’t push the river. You will only exhaust yourself and that too is something that you can believe in.

          • Joe H.

            Yeah bob the dems accepted it!! SURE!! SURE THEY DID!! That’s why6, as you prove here we are still hearing about it 7 and 11 years LATER!!! I hope you own a farm, bud cause you are spreading the BS awful thick!!!

          • JC

            bob wire says:

            December 3, 2011 at 9:57 am

            yea! Great work Ben, you should have been the “activities director” on the Titanic. This ability to make a few people rejoice and cheer facing hopelessly dismal circumstances is a rare gift you should always share.

            Gee Bob, I guess if it’s all so “hopeless” we should all just shoot ourselves now and get it over with right?
            Wrong! America will be “American” again before this is all over.
            So in the mean time, before it gets uglier, let’s enjoy a laugh or two shall we? ;)

          • http://naver samurai

            Sheesh, Bob it took you a long rant to make a point? Can’t you remember the acronym KISS? You just went around in circles and still didn’t come to any logical conclusion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. This isn’t a writing contest, you know.

        • wally stewart

          id also try them all for treason

      • http://naver samurai

        Here is another video about the evil of Obama bin Laden.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC7j6LMJWzl

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • bp

          Samurai: YouTube video is “unavailable”. Sorry i missed it.

        • http://naver samurai

          Darn it! Oh well, I’ll have to find another one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://personlibertydigest personallitycrisis

          Well let me see there my right winged friend. My username came from my many battles with the republican right, I became conflicted after the many debates with garbage and ignorance.And my point is Obama is lacking in many ways especially his appointments and for the people he picks to work for him. I am willing to give him a second chance once we dump the democrats that dont know how to vote and eliminate the do-nothing republicans.

          • JC

            So, you feel Obama can do better?
            Well if we look at his agenda he has done pretty well so far hasn’t he?
            He has printed more money than all previous Presidents combined.
            Alienated every American who knows anything about the Constitution.
            Divided our nation more than ever before.
            Allowed the invasion on our southern border to continue unabated.
            His administration has participated in an illegal transfer of weapons to Mexican criminals resulting in the death of Americans and now that’s just another cover up.
            He has endorsed another rights killing law that removes the last of our rights as Americans.
            He needs to keep his sordid past a secret and has spent millions to do so.
            He has supposedly authored books that outline his racism towards whites and his hatred of America.
            He is suing Staes in “world court” for trying to enforce Constitutional law in their own jurisdictions.

            You’re right, this “All American” is just what the Globalists need.
            A perfect Puppet.

            Good luck with your crisis.

          • Kate8

            Well said, JC.

            It all just goes to prove that the Left is willing to everlook anything to stay in power, even if it means completely destroying America. They hold such blind allegiance toward their party.

          • http://naver samurai

            If you think Obama bin Laden is good enough for a second term, you must have your head so far up your backside you can’t see the light of day. Another term with the COOTUS in office will basically destroy what is left of this nation. I guess you communists can care less about this country. I’ll stand next to it and defend it as best as I can. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            HEAR, HEAR!!! samurai, his personality is inSUCH a crisis!!! May God have mercy on his soul!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Right on Joe H. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • michael

        yep

    • Vagabond

      mark where do you get all this information? you should share it with the CIA the would probaly be glad to get your input,

      • michael

        yep, that’s right

    • http://naver samurai

      Where have you had your head buried? Iran does have a nuclear program, you nitwit. It has been proven that they, possibly even the Syrians, were getting help from North Korea to start their programs. Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons? Care to cite a source on that? If Israel does have as many s you say, it is justified by being able to defend themselves. They are constantly under the gun of some terrorist group or a muslim nation that wants to destroy them. You say there are 25,000 Jews in Iran living together in peace? I think they are living in peac because they are forced to do that. Remember, islam thinks of all Jews and Christians as infidels and should be destroyed. You think the OWS crowd is the same as everyone else? So I guess everyone else believes in rape, molestation, crapping on police cars, trespassing, and many other things. You also sound like a self-righteous hypocrate by how you posted. Must be a lib. No facts, sources, and nothing but hate, lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. Neeeed to make that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. Barney is gone? I hope that fruit stays that way, gone! Here is a funny video about Obama bin Laden.

      http://www.impeach obamacampaign.com/lol-music-video-grandma-got-run-over-by-obama/

      • Alex Frazier

        I don’t have the resource material handy, but I can tell you that Israel developed a nuclear program decades ago and has something to the tune of 300 nuclear weapons.

        They don’t have quite that many neighbors looking to destroy them. And they surely have enough to take care of Iran if they need to.

        • bob wire

          If I am not mistake, they are a part of Nato allied Forces and required to offer a strong sting.

          I was thinking that the Tea Party was opposed to any nuances of a New World order. While it seems that Ron Paul’s ideas to foreign affairs actually seem to be set the stage.

          Actually I’m open to both but I feel that I’m a monority in thinking so.

          • speedle

            Uh..bobwire I afraid you are mistake. Er, Israel is actually not a member of the NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION. Duh

          • bob wire

            Can’t slip nothing over you ~ but can I?

            http://www.herzliyaconference.org/_Uploads/2469NATO.pdf

          • http://naver samurai

            Israel is not part of NATO, but NATO does look after it as far as protecting it from its arab neighbors. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Alex Frazier

            Then I guess we don’t really need to worry about Iran. Israel would be taken care of with or without us. Imagine that.

            Funny how I don’t see France, Greece, and a number of the other 28 member countries of NATO prepared to invade Iran. If NATO was so worried about a nuclear Iran, why aren’t more of the member nations prepared to go to war?

          • bob wire

            When you say “Invade” is that what you really mean?

            No, I don’t think that it is anyone’s interest to invade Iran except for WalMart,Burger King or maybe Jack in the Box.

          • Joe H.

            Alex Frazier,
            YES, you are very right, Isreal CAN and WILL take care of itself. They have already said they don’t want their American allies to intervene militarily!! I can guarantee you that Isreal will take out Iran the minute they obtain nukes and they know about it, DAMN China or Russia!! Don’t think so?? Just watch in the next year!!

        • eddie47d

          Please Alex tell Samurai again how many Nuclear Weapons Israel has.He has a tendency to forget things if it challenges his own theories. I’ve known about Israel having nukes for at least 35 years although they have continually tried to deny it. There is not an inkling of proof whether or not Iran has them . That is all political theater from the fear mongers at this time. Since Israel does have nukes to defend themselves shouldn’t Iran also have them to defend themselves against Israel’s threats of aggression. I bet Samurai is a gun rights advocate who believes everyone has a right to defend themselves against intruders. Well now shouldn’t Israel and Iran both have the right to defend themselves against all intruders? Personally I wish no one had nukes yet if these two countries feel they have a right to threaten each other then they have a right to defend themselves. Some think mutually assured destruction works so why not open the floodgates.

          • Tim

            Suicide bombers don’t believe in mutually assured destruction. If they did, they wouldn’t be suicide bombers.
            I’ve never heard Israel threaten any other country. Can you say the same about Iran, or any other middle eastern country for that matter?

          • eddie47d

            Actually suicide bombers do believe in mutually assured destruction or else they wouldn’t be killing themselves in the attack.

          • libertytrain

            actually not all suicide bombers volunteered. Some are just kids grabbed off the streets and forced into it – as are others.

          • Jimbo

            Tim says:
            December 3, 2011 at 11:42 am
            “…..I’ve never heard Israel threaten any other country. Can you say the same about Iran, or any other middle eastern country for that matter?”

            No, Israel doesn’t threaten other countries. They just attack whenever they feel threatened. Over the years they have struck Iraqi, Syrian, and Iranian facilities many times without warning. With missles, bombs, viruses, and assassination attempts. They have stolen our nuclear secrets. They have bombed and strafed one of our ships. Israel has been condemned by the UN General Assembly for this behavior many times, but because the US and Britain have veto ability in the security council no action is ever taken against Israel.

            And Iran didn’t threaten Israel. Yes, their leader said the country should never have existed. But that is an opinion, rather than a threat. Is Iran seeking nukes? Maybe.. They know the US only respects nukes. That’s why we haven’t attacked North Korea.

          • http://naver samurai

            You also forget Jimbo that North Korea is allied with China. If we did attack North Korea, being their ally, they would respond to defending them. China has the world’s largest army, so how would we defeat them? Maybe the use of specials? I could just see Obama bin Laden chomping at the bit to do that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Well, well, well, looks like we agree on some things Ed. A person does have the right to defend their family, life, and property. That’s one reason for the 2nd Amendment, but if Iran has no nucler program or nuclear weapons, then why is the U.N. and Obama bin Laden seeking sanctions against them? If they had no weapons or program, then there would not be the need for sanctions. I don’t recall the U.N. sanctioning someone because they felt Israel should be destroyed. Saddam was sanctined by the actions again Kuwait and groups inside of Iraq. If Israel has the bomb, good for them. Instead of picking on Israel, why don’t you get their enemies to dismantle theirs? Pakistan has nukes, so why don’t you complain about them? Israelites are God’s chosen people and we, as a Christian nation, need to support and defend them. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Alex Frazier

            Jimbo, good post. First factual one I’ve seen yet on Israel and Iranian sentiment towards them. It’s a fact that Israel was given land in the middle east after the mass displacement following WWII. This land was not given to them by the unanimous consent of the middle east occupants (and I’m sure that’s putting it mildly). So to say that “the nation of Israel should have never existed” is not so much a threat as it is a sentiment of middle eastern patriotism.

            From a religious perspective, Israel got exactly what God promised them. He promised that if they continued in disobedience, he would scatter them to the four corners of the earth and make them a byword amongst the nations. And that’s exactly what he did to them. Perhaps this was him sparing the small portion. But one way or the other, God booted Israel out of the promised land, scattered them to the winds, and made them a byword amongst the nations, just as he promised.

            I also wanted to point out that it’s not necessarily a bad thing if nuclear power is developed. The same stuff used for bombs is also the cleanest source of energy in the world. Japan is using nuclear power. So are other nations. It’s efficient, clean, cheap, and produces less waste than coal, oil, or other fossil fuels.

            So I think it is important to recognize that just because Iran wants to develop nuclear power, it doesn’t necessarily mean they plan to make a bomb. Maybe they’re just tired of living in the dark ages.

          • alex

            the problem is when iran gets their nukes and a way to deliver them isreal will have to use them not just have them

          • daniel

            eddy I agree that nobody should have nuclear weapons. Yes Israel has had nukes for a while now. As far as threatening Iran’s existence I can’t find anything about that. However there are multitudes of statements about Iran wanting to snuff out Israel. The worst kept “secret” as to Israel’s defense is that if the conventional forces fail in Israel’s defense then they will use the Samson defense. I will assume you know the story of Samson here.
            Do I think Iran would use nukes if given half a chance? Yes, in a heart beat. From what I have seen as far as the internal and external politics of Iran sanity is not in play here. If you would like to read some interesting material research the book of Ezekiel starting about Chapter 32. It gets really fun when geneologies get brought up and histories that have happened since the book was written. Militarily it is spot on as to strategy.

          • Terry

            Exactly when did nuclear weapons become a ‘defensive’ option. Only the threat of nukes is defensive, their actual use is always offensive in more ways than one.

          • daniel

            Terry their use is always “offensive”. If you read how the nukes will be used it is by the Samson mentality. It goes like this “destroy me and I will destroy you). Like I said read the story of Samson in the Bible. They have taken a strictly defensive stand.

          • eddie47d

            The sanctions against Iran is another government power play Samurai.Not much different than we had against Iraq.Governments don’t always need proof in challenging other nations and carefully placed rumors will suffice for them. As far as Pakistan goes there is nothing I said that would imply that I want them to have nukes. That also does come under what I said about Israel and Iran.India has nukes and Pakistan has nukes and they are contentious with each other. Each feel threatened by the others and want that mutually assured destruction capabilities. What a sad and disgusting world we have and I can only join groups that want to stop nuclear proliferation and vote against those who beat the war drums.

          • Dale

            Israel does not want to destroy anyone. If they did they could have already done so. It is people like the leaders in Iran who “will” use the Nuclear weapons they develop on Israel and or the U.S. Do you people even have brains?

            Also “now” Obama and Ghneitner are wanting to use the US taxpayers to bail out Europe “completely”. This man is slowly, but surely destroying this country and idiots like the ones on this thread are helping him.

          • bob wire

            “Tim says:
            December 3, 2011 at 11:42 am

            Suicide bombers don’t believe in mutually assured destruction. If they did, they wouldn’t be suicide bombers.”

            Forgive me for calling you on this statement but if feel it necessary.

            I assume you are speaking of the mindset and the forces behind this terrorist method of delivery. These “forces” only focus on claiming the minute to instill fear and terror and that minute is predicated on mutually assured destruction.

          • Joe H.

            I think all you nay sayers have very short memories. I remember,very well, imadinnerjacket saying he wanted to see Isreal wiped off the face of the map!!! If that isn’t threatening a country, then what do you call it?? Are you telling me that if china, with thousands of nukes, stated unequivocally, that they wanted to see the USA wiped off the face of the map?? you gonna try to convince me that it wouldn’t worry you a bit?? BULL$H–!!! Sorry, but I call things what they are and that is pure bull$h–!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I hope that Israel does stand up for itself and turn Iran into a parking lot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Graystroke

        AN ineffectual Nuke Program OK? and YES WE the USA trained Bin Laden and died years ago from kidney failure you cannot recognize mass hypnotic control can you. The late PM of India gave an interview and spoke of Bin Laden’s death and shortly afterwards was bombed. Bin Laden and family have Bush ties via the Carlyle group. Israel has had nuke for decades thanks to the USA….. Netanyahu spoke on Fox and said with a smirk ‘they were NOT worried about Iran’s nuke program” …we are being played and teh so called Tea Party folks have been duped heck they even support Newt and Mitt and Perry how dumb are they VERY….

        • Rose

          I am a republican and I do not support Mitt, Newt, Rick or anybody else who is running for the Republican nomination, except Ron Paul. Ron Paul who is ignored by the media. I don’t listen to the media’s brainwashing tactics. I decide for myself not who they say is what I want.

          • NamNavyVet

            Rose, right on. Ron Paul is the only one with a brain, that speaks the truth about war and the cost. The media hates him because he is not another puppet neocon. Read his books and you will support him. If Obozo buys another election, America is over.

          • Joe H.

            Rose,
            You got that right!!!

        • Tim

          Yeah, and the moon landing was a fake, and the CIA killed Kennedy.

      • dlsimm
      • Joe H.

        samurai,
        you misunderstood. They are living in PIECES not peace!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          I derstand what you are saying, fellow patriot. I seem to remember how Obama bin Laden told Israel to go back to their previous boarders of 1967. I guess oBama bin Laden doesn’t care about Israel, just the muslims that wish to destroy them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          It’s also about Israel playing by the rules set up. The West Bank settlements are proof that they don’t care about the peace process. Each side does what it wants and then demands respect from the world. The Palistinians have a similar problem in being so scattered where their leaders can’t bring them all together. That keeps them from controlling the rouges who fire missles into Israel.The 3 parties Israel,Palistinians and the USA should have accepted the Bill Clinton proposal.That was more a fault of the Palistinians and their leaders now regret it. Israel killing those Turkish rights activists set the chance for peace back also and put a divide between the Israeli and Turkish governments. Israel can’t afford to be biting the hand of an Muslim friend but they did it anyway. We give $4 billion to Israel and $1.5 billions to the Palistinians so why aren’t we getting more for our money? What a Circus!

          • http://naver samurai

            The West Bank is land that was taken by Israel during wartime. It is theirs by conquest. Since this is so, why shouldn’t they build settlements for people to live in? I’ll bet that not all the people living there are Jews. I’ll bet there are also muslims living there. I don’t know the ratio of Jews and muslims, but it certainly isn’t 100% to 0%. Obama bin Laden wants Israel to go back to the boarders they had before taking the West Bank. This COOTUS cares nothing about Israel, but does care about the muslims. I guess this is because he is a muslim from Indonesia and not an American citizen. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • wally stewart

      cant we just nuke them all and let god sort them out?

      • Kate8

        wally – I think they (and most of the world) feel the same way about us.

        From the look of things, the elite plan to nuke everyone, one way or another.

        Americans have been useful idiots, but, now that the corporate banksters have relocated their interests and are raising up the third world (under communism, of course), they no longer find us useful. They’ve seen to it that Americans have become lazy and stupid, and have unleashed us against each other. We buy into everything they say via media and act accordingly. It’s truly pathetic.

        Are there any out there, under the age of 60, who understand what’s afoot and can see through the delusion? I really doubt it.

        • Carlucci

          Hey Kate8 – Glad to see your post. Since I’ve gone back to work full time, it is difficult for me time-wise to keep up with this list during the week. If I’m lucky, I get to read it in the morning before I leave.

          I’m 56 and know what is going on. So do lots of friends of mine under the age of 60. My fourteen year old nephew is even aware; he found out about it at his private school – !

          By the way, did anyone see this?

          http://lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts332.html

          And this?

          http://www.naturalnews.com/034291_SB_1867_war_on_terror.html

          http://www.infowars.com/rand-paul-americans-could-be-sent-to-gitmo-under-indefinite-detention-bill/

          I haven’t heard the latest. If anyone has, please post. Thanks.

          • Kate8

            Hi Carlucci – Great to hear from you. I’m not here so much anymore, either, but I pop in just to see what’s up.

            I know there are a few who get what’s happening, but even those ideas are diverse. It’s very hard for younger people, who are so far removed from the things we and our parents lived through, to understand the gravity of the situation. They do tend to trust the politicians to exercise restraint. What a joke.

            The latest on the detention bill is that the teasonous Senate passed it. I don’t quite get why it now goes to Obama…did the House pass it also? Don’t they have to anymore? Is Congress just a formality…a rubber stamp for Obama and the elite banking corporations? Because it’s painfully apparent that they’ve completely turned on us.

            The FEMA camps aren’t stocked, staffed and ready for no reason. We don’t have millions of foreign troops on US soil for no reason (I read that there are large numbers now in underground bases, awaiting the green light to spring into acition. And our military and law enforcement aren’t being given authority to harrass and detain US citizens on American soil for no reason. Anyone who thinks that they don’t really mean it ought to talk to some aged Germans.

          • Joe H.

            Carlucci,
            was aware of this and also signed up to have a E mail to my reps supporting legislation to BLOCK this bill!! This is disgusting and very immoral to do this to Americans that have their rights guaranteed by the constitution!! Just another instance of the RINOs and PROGS trying to do away with the constitution!!!

          • Kate8
          • bob wire

            Quality post Kate, your look view I find most accurate.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – So where is the proof of the propaganda on that anti-propaganda site?

      • Marten, Canadian Libertarian

        Why dont you just get a life and nuke yourself

        • http://naver samurai

          Why don’t you? I know a good place you can stick one. Your rectal oriface. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. I’ve been trained on what to to if such a thing would happen, are you?

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            By the numbers
            1: pull down pants
            2: bend over
            3: stick head between legs
            4: kiss rosy red A$$ goodbye!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Hyena

      ROFLMAO@U XD

    • Arley Loeffler

      “IRAN HAS NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS………“Israel” has hundreds of state of the art nuclear devices & delivery system…”
      ___________________________________________________________________

      Miss Dabney, the ratios you point out look pretty good to me.

      See……Iran promises to wipe out Israel while at the same time Israel isn’t planning to wipe out Iran.

      • eddie47d

        That is only partial true Arley. Iran(Ahmadinejad) has threatened to wipe out Israel is true. Yet Israel has bombed a possible nuke facility in Syria.Israel has also threatened to bomb Iran as recently as two months ago. Too much insane saber rattling for me.

        • http://naver samurai

          They did these bombings in self defense. Are you saying that we wouldn’t do a pre-emptive strike to defend ourselves? I’ll bet we would. I’ll also bet Obama bin Laden would do this without approval of Congress or the Senate. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          It’s Barrack Obama you ignoramus and we do make preemptive strikes all the time such as Vietnam and Iraq. Attacking the Syrian plant was more of a bully tactic than a defensive tactic. Your head is too far into how to start wars rather than keeping them from happening. I really can’t fathom you being a history teacher Samurai for you are extremely one sided.

          • http://naver samurai

            If I remember correctly, we voted to go into Iraq both times before we struck them. Also, we gave Saddam in 1990-1991 times and chances to get out of Kuwait, but he didn’t. In 2003 we gave him chances before then to shape up or ship out. He failed to adhere to the sanctions set by the U.S. and the U.N. Vietnam was to prevent the spread of communism into Southeast Asia. At first, we send observers and advisers to the conflict. Over time, we were participating in that fight. A lib started sending us over there, a second lib had us fully involved in the conflict, then a GOP got us out of Vietnam. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            Obamma bin Laden sounds about right to me!!! eddie’s just got his ruffled panties in a bunch!!!

        • Dennis48e

          Poor little eddie he doesn’t know the difference in bombing a single specific target (nuke facility) and threatening to wipe a country from the face of the earth.

    • Graystroke

      Thanks for letting me know I am not alone in the assessment of Israel…. IT drives me insane to listen to Hannity lambast this one guy from Reason TV yesterday because he would NOT support Israel as he told Hannity that Israel had plenty of weapons to take care of business!Hannity, and the rest of teh Neo-Con Fox channel crew have all made me turn away with their pro-war poor Israel rhetoric…… Thanks Varney for good Business news…

      • Jerry

        Turn away from Fox? Sounds like, to me, that you are a regular,avid viewer. We all know that Fox is the only news org that is fair and balanced. Osama Obama and all the NBC channels (Jeffrey Immelt) are on a oneway Obummer track.

        • Joe H.

          Jerry,
          Hate to burst your bubble, guy, but even fox is getting a little unfair and unbalanced as evidenced by the fact that they very rarely if ever give Ron Paul any time!! I used to be an avid listener but now also get my news from the BBC as well!! Now days, you can’t rely on just one news source . Instead you have to get it from multiple sources and research to discard the things not worth listening to.

    • sddiego

      sounds like you have a copy of Obummer’s telepromter. Your not too bright

    • JUKEBOX

      Boy, Mark represents the epitome of the far left wing Socialist, anti-semite, racist group that thinks is the great savior of the Muslim movement. If Iran doesn’t have a nuclear agenda, then I am a prophet that lived ten thousand years ago, and am still alive.

    • Richard

      Mark, you couldn’t be more wrong in your assessment of Iran. It is imperative you spend some time learning more of the facts.

    • Jerry

      WOW! You are a hate-filled spewing forth fury,rantings and so much hate. You must be miserable! By the way, what is your Muslim name?

      • eddie47d

        Maybe it’s Jerry,Richard,Sddiego and Jukebox who better put their thinking caps on. If all you have is spreading Muslim dislike instead of presenting facts then your “rants” are just as dangerous as you accuse Mark of. Israel absolutely has the right to exist yet until you solve the Palestinian homeland issue you solve nothing. Only more poking and prodding and bitterness coming from all sides. They are all guilty of kicking the hornet’s nest and as stubborn as a Missouri mule but their delaying ploys have outlived there usefulness. We always end up being the useful idiots with the billions of dollars in defense spending and unending wars.

        • wildmann

          Eddie 47 d ??? Is that your Cup Size, or your IQ??

          • eddie47d

            Nothing like a little humor to cheer you all up,right wildmann? Maybe that is all YOUR IQ could muster up!??

          • eddie47d

            Did you challange Obama’s “low” approval ratings or are you another lemming on the right wildmann? Overall in a fair national poll like Rasmussen and Gallup it’s Obama 44 vs 43% for all Republican contenders put together. Even Hillary would beat the Republican candidates. Obama vs Romney: 45-44…Obama vs Gingrich 48-43…Obama vs Cain 50-39…. Obama vs Paul 47-39….Obama vs Bachmann 50-36… Obama vs Huntsman 45-37…. Obama vs Santorum 45-34 Obama vs Perry 47-31. To say that Obama is tanking (according to Ben)when the Republicans aren’t doing too well either just doesn’t tell the whole story.

          • Dale on the left coast

            Its eddie’s IQ . . . lol
            eddie operates in a Parallel Universe . . . O’bammy’s doing a great job, 20% unempolyment and 15 Trillion in Debt is normal for the good ole USA. When the jack-booted marxists are marching down his street . . . eddie will still be in de-nile . . .

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry ed-duh, but he would lose hands down to Ron Paul and Sarah Palin. If he is doing so well, then why is his own party trying to find someone to run against him, maybe have him step down and let someone else run? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            Why don’t you tell the truth once in awhile Samurai? Most National Polls don’t lie and are accurate in any given week. I like Ron Paul and would even vote for him but he is behind all the other Republican contenders.There are few signs that Obama won’t run or is stepping down so how could you make such an absurd statement? Present the real facts not wishful thinking!

          • http://naver samurai

            I don’t trust polls as they are leaning in a certain direction and only poll a small amount of individuals. Ergo, it is not really the voice of the people. Speaking of facts, why don’t you present some? There are many democrats that are against Obama bin Laden running for a second term and you know it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • tompaine
    • Joseph

      Mark, a bit harsh, but than again, the truth is never pretty! You’re right on the mark(no pun intended).

      • http://naver samurai

        Thank you for supporting your local left wing wacko. No truth is his posting whatsoever. Lol! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joseph

          You should acquaint yourself with Albert Pike’s blueprint for WW3. The plan involves fomenting a critical schism between Islam, and Christianity, mixed with a generous helping of hate, suspicion, and paranoia, and voila, that should be enough to create a bloodbath.

          Who will be left standing? The instigators of course! Who just happen to hate both, Christians and Muslims.

          These puss-filled pigs call themselves Jews, but they are not Jews. They are fake Jews, they all changed their names. They are the ones who instigated the holocaust, sacrificing thousands of true Jews, and now pretend to be Jews. After all, who will dare criticize them, they have Jewish names, and we all know the horror of the holocaust that the true Jews endured. These fake Jews are Mongols, originating from north of Turkey. They, at some point converted to Judaism, but converted only for the purpose of using the religion as a weapon to control people, and societies.

          Their atrocities are legendary. They are corrupt beyond what you can imagine, and presently, they rule US through their evil banking system!

          Shake the scales from your eyes Samurai. Btw, i love the name, and i see the spirit of a Samurai in you. However, your spirit seems misguided.

          • Joe H.

            Joseph,
            some of those original Isrealies came over to Isreal on boats from Germany and were some of the same ones that were released from the death camps that Hitler ran!! What’s fake about that??

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – I don’t think Joseph is talking about the true Jewish tribes. They are the ones who suffered under the fake Zionists, in order to establish a stronghold in the middle east under Zionist control.

            Rothschild’s name was Bauer. He changed it to Rothschild (red shield) to sound Jewish. The Zionists are the Financial elite, without country or allegiance except to their own wealth and power, and aspirations of world dominance.

            There are many devout, sincere Jewish people, and they are being reviled by the world just as we Americans (especially Christians) are. This is all due to propaganda in order to stir up hatred among peoples.

          • Joseph

            Thank you Kate8. You seem to be up to speed, and awake! Here’s something most people will find hard to comprehend since they were never told by the hopelessly corrupt, education system!

            In1836 Rabbi Kalisher approached the Rothschild family to fund the establishment of Israel. They were not interested.

            The French built the Suez Canal but the Egyptian Pasha was in need of money so they wanted to sell their shares of the Suez Canal. The French wanted to buy all the shares but the Egyptian didn’t want a monopoly. The French wanted to split the British Empire in half by controlling the Canal.

            British PM Disraeli, a converted Christian from the Jewish faith, was friends with Rothschild and got a loan to buy up the Egyptian shares. He was mindful of what a French controlled Suez could mean to the British Empire.

            In 1859 the first oil well was drilled in Titusville, Pennsylvania and construction of the Suez Canal began.

            In 1869 the Suez Canal was completed.

            In 1870 John D. Rockefeller formed Standard Oil.

            In 1873 the Baku oil region was opened for development and the Nobels entered the Russian oil business.

            In 1882 Edmond de Rothschild (an oil expert) visits Israel.

            In 1885 Royal Dutch discovers oil in Sumatra in the East Indies(modern Indonesia) and the Rothschilds enter the Russian oil business.

            In 1886 the Rothschilds start their own oil company BNITO.

            In 1888 the Rothschilds establish oil importing/distribution company.

            The “Shell” Transport and Trading Company (the quotation marks were part of the legal name) was a British company, founded in 1897 by Marcus Samuel and his brother Samuel Samuel. Initially the Company commissioned eight oil tankers for the purposes of transporting oil.

            The origin of the brand name Shell is linked to the origins of The Shell Transport and Trading Company.

            In 1833, the founder’s father, also Marcus Samuel, founded an import business to sell seashells to London collectors. When collecting seashell specimens in the Caspian Sea area in 1892, the younger Samuel realized there was potential in exporting lamp oil from the region and commissioned the world’s first purpose-built oil tanker, the Murex (Latin for a type of snail shell), to enter this market; by 1907 the company had a fleet. Although for several decades the company had a refinery at Shell Haven on the Thames, there is no evidence of this having provided the name.

            With their banking connections the Rothschilds would transport their Russian oil to the Far East and British India. The Rothschilds were major investors in Shell Oil Company. The Suez Canal was crucial to Shell for exporting kerosene oil to Asia e.g. British India.

            In 1891 Rothschilds/Samuel oil contract began.

            In 1892 Samuel’s Shell Oil Murex sails through the Suez Canal. A year later Shell Oil adds 10 more tankers to the fleet.

            In 1893 Alphonse de Rothschild meets with Standard Oil to discuss cartel.

            In 1896 Captain Alfred Dreyfus is falsely accused of espionage in France. Theodore Hertzel begins the Zionist campaign to create Israel.

            Rothschild also wanted to protect their oil interests but they needed a political and military watchdog over the Suez Canal and the State of Israel was created. They wanted a militant and battle hardened Israel and no pushovers.

            The state of Israel was put in place by the Rothschild bankers to protect their oil interests by safe guarding the Suez Canal. If there was no Suez Canal there would be no Israel as the financial instigator the Rothschilds showed little or no interest in Rabbi Kalisher’s request to fund the establishment of Israel back in 1836.

          • Kate8

            Joseph – Thanks for the timeline.

            Sadly, the Rothschilds used the Jewish people as pawns to further their own nefarious ends, using Adolph Hitler as their frontman (just as they use world leaders today, including Obama). Since the Jews were very successful in business, it was easy to disrupt the economy and blame it on the “wealthy” (Jews).

            Can’t any of you liberals see any parallels to what is going on in America? The manipulation of the economy, the class warfare, the degradation of humanity? And, just like during WWII, it is the Jews and Christians who are bearing the brunt of the blame.

            We MUST stop allowing the maniacs in power to control us, to keep us warring with each other! If we would unite against them, they’d have a hard time pulling this whole world takeover, and the genocide that goes with it, off.

            Oh, they do plan to bring us all “together”, all right. UNDER THEM. Just wait unil they unleash some huge, catastrophic false flag event that throws us all for a loop. The plan is for us to come begging to them to save us!

          • http://naver samurai

            Care to cite a source about what you have posted, Joseph? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. I didn’t say you are wrong, just post a source.

          • Kate8

            samurai – Online you can find a timeline called “History of the House of Rothschild”. I used to have it downloaded on my computer (it’s several pages long), but I’m sure you can still find it.

            Everythink Joseph says is a matter of record.

          • Joe H.

            Kate8,
            no where in his post does he differentiate between the Isrealies and what you say. IF that is what he means then he should say it and make it CLEAR! The way he is stating it could cause some ignorant antisemites to pass that on as about ALL Jews!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. Here’s what Joseph said:
            ———————————
            These puss-filled pigs call themselves Jews, but they are not Jews. They are fake Jews, they all changed their names. They are the ones who instigated the holocaust, sacrificing thousands of true Jews, and now pretend to be Jews. After all, who will dare criticize them, they have Jewish names, and we all know the horror of the holocaust that the true Jews endured. These fake Jews are Mongols, originating from north of Turkey. They, at some point converted to Judaism, but converted only for the purpose of using the religion as a weapon to control people, and societies.

            Their atrocities are legendary. They are corrupt beyond what you can imagine, and presently, they rule US through their evil banking system!
            ————————————-

            Seems pretty clear to me. I don’t recall if he said it, but they are generally referred to as “Zionists”, or “Zionist Jews”. Wholly different creatures.

          • Joseph

            TRADITIONAL JEWS ARE NOT ZIONISTS-TRUE TORAH JEWS AGAINST ZIONISM!

            Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

            Here’s a link that every American should investigate. A web-site, btw, created by orthodox jews! Imagine that, Jews against Zionism! Should they be labelled anti-semetic?

            http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

          • JC

            I’ve been saying that for years Joseph,
            Everyday Jews are not Zionists.
            Zionists are a cult that originated in Egypt.
            Google: Meyer Bauer and the words Prince William of Hanau.
            Interesting read and you’ll see how the Rothchild’s started out as thieves. (just like they are today).

        • Joseph

          NAZI SUPPORT OF ZIONISM

          Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, recognized that anti-Semitism would further his cause, the creation of a separate state for Jews. To solve the Jewish Question, he maintained “we must, above all, make it an international political issue.” Herzl wrote that Zionism offered the world a welcome “final solution of the Jewish question.” In his “Diaries”, page 19, Herzl stated “Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

          Zionist Collaboration
          with the Nazis

          Zionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo. Hitler himself personally supported Zionism. During the 1930′s, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized “Kibbutz” training camps over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of “Israel”.

          The Transfer Agreement (which promoted the emigration of German Jews to Palestine) implemented in 1933 and abandoned at the beginning of WWII is an important example of the cooperation between Hitler’s Germany and international Zionism. Through this agreement, Hitler’s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930′s to support Jewish development in Palestine and further the Zionist goals.

          Hitler and the Zionists had a common goal:Â to create a world Jewish Ghetto as a solution to the Jewish Question.

          THE TRANSFER AGREEMENT
          The Zionist so-called “World Jewish Congress” declared war on the country of Germany, knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country who would be left without protection. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors to Jewish immigration (read more in the books, “Perfidy” and “Min Hametzer”). As a result of the Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the United States were turned back to the gas chambers.

          http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm

          • Kate8

            Joseph – Good work, and great site. Thanks.

          • independant thinker

            Joseph, I have just finished reading “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, a very detailed history of Hitlers rise to power and Nazi Germany and nowhere does it even hint at what you claim.

          • Kate8

            Independent – Just because an author doesn’t include things, for whatever reason (because he doesn’t know or something else) doesn’t mean it’s not true.

            Try reading other accounts. You will find it.

    • Adrian DeLoche

      Spam Man says, It cost us Billions to get rid of Osama Bin Laden.
      It will cost us Trillions to get rid of Obama Bin $pendin!

    • duaner

      Hey mutton head they continue to kill christians for trying to practice their religion. So go soak in a nice tub of obummer crap and stay off of this site.

    • vieteravet

      Dude, put down the doobie and read!

    • CoCowboy

      Dabney – What planet do you live on??? Planet Idiocracy?

      I mean please – Iran has no Nukes? And you know this because you’re in the CIA?????… And by the way, I should add, Iran IS A SIGNATORY to the NPT, as is the DPRK… Israel has no declared nor proven Nukes nor are they a signatory. And you know they have Nuikes because…?

      Now, everyone KNOWS OWS IS TOTALLY screwed up. They are a bunch of violent anarchist pigs who have killed, raped, destroyed private and public property… caused businesses to go out of biz or lost reciepts and plenty of other things… There is NO excuse for their behavior. Frankly, the cops should have shut these pigs down far sooner… what a bunch of cry baby’s…

    • Ronald R. Johnson

      This head case sure landed on his head when he took a leap off a tall building! I wonder if he knows what a danger he is to himself as well as others! If the idiot really believed the crap he is spewing he would be over there living among the crazy Iranians! At least he’s not quite that dumb! Yet!

    • CJM

      You are NOT residing with 25000 Jews, etal–you live right here in the USA. Like your hunnybun messiah………you promote his lies by lying yourself.

    • Carol

      Say what??? Where do you get your info? Get your head out of the sand Dabney.

    • Vernon

      Wow! well, we can tell you definitely inhaled…………

    • mark

      So which one of your parents is the nazi OR is it both you lousy
      skum sucking brown shirt little thug.

    • http://firefox Paul

      Markie – A little helpful advice for you.
      Lay off the kool-aid and the tweeking; find a job – any job that requires decent grooming and provides training in customer service.
      You may stumble upon a woman who finds an impossible challenge of turning wretches like yourself into something resembling a human being.
      If you make it that far — she is a MIRACLE WORKER! MARRY HER!
      If humanity is too lame for you here then I suggest you learn Arabic and move to Iran. “Submit” to Islam; throw your stones and bury your I.E.D’s; be miserably happy fomenting your “opinions” on a global scale. That’s it: you need a life-fulfilling global stage where you can do what you love best.
      indeed be

  • Bob Burton

    I admire your effort but the left right paragdigm is falling as of the past 72 hours The tea party are revolting against the KUBARK infiltrator organizers….they are starting to recognize that they have been lied to and that they are fighting the same enemy as OWS who does not get a socialist security check to put them in fancy hotels paid for by our grandchildren… OWS is already recognizing KUBARK contamination in their leadership….This is very good news….look for my article …”KUBARK in the Koolaid” by bob burton to get you started…But I only put enough info on it to get the “experts ” to diggin … we call it “Operation: dodge this”

    • Alex Frazier

      The Tea Party movement was fighting for smaller government, reduced government spending, and reduced taxation.

      The Occupy Wall Street movement wants increased taxes on the wealthy, “jobs” magically created by the government (which is done at the expense of the taxpayer), increases in minimum wage and unemployment benefits, student loan forgiveness, and a plethora of other unreasonable things.

      Maybe there’s some common force behind each. But they are not fighting for the same thing. I am Tea Party sympathetic (not a member, but in support of their goals). I am also OWS supportive (I am behind their right to protest, even though I disagree with what they are protesting). I do not confuse the ends of either. The OWS movement wants something different and contrary to the Tea Party movement. The OWS demands require increased taxes, increased government spending, and increased government oversight. That’s as opposite the Tea Party as it gets.

      • JUKEBOX

        Many of the OWS demonstraters are just mad that their parents are not “SHARING THE WEALTH” with them, beyond sending them to some expensive university, where they are indoctrinated with the latest Socialist ideals.

        • Kate8

          JUKEBOX – Good point. OWS appears to have representation from every nutjob and quirky movement who see an opportunity to get noticed. When I hear someone say “let’s try communism”, it’s not too hard to see what’s going on here.

          I know lots of TeaParty people, and they are just regular folks who want to return to the Constitution and common sense. There are infiltrators there, too, and vigilance is the key. But one sure way to see through the fog is too see which one gets the biggest media coverage…

          The problem isn’t that government needs more tax money. What we need is less govenrnment sucking the lifeblood of the people. Our tax money isn’t going to help anyone but the uber-rich, the world banks, the political class. If they’d stop plundering our coffers for their own use, (and don’t forget, they consider themselves ABOVE the Law and don’t pay taxes), we’d have more than enough and be freer to boot. Social programs are a drop in the bucket compared to the trillions being pilfered by the elite, mostly in secret.

          Here is an excellent video posted a few days ago by someone here, showing just what “taxing the rich” would net, even if you taxed them at 100%.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JY8LKII_MNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

          And don’t forget, we’re being held in bondage by money that doesn’t exist. Air. The banksters simply run numbers in a computer, costing them nothing, and spend our lives slaving over it as if it were real.

          Great gig if you are on the right team.

          • Joe H.

            Kate8,
            the one thing I have trouble with is the few TEA party sites i have gone to seem to be almost violently anti-Paul. I don’t understand that attitude when you would be very hard pressed to find anyone in office with a more constitutional record than him!! Ron Paul has voted straight donw the constitution his whole career!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – I haven’t kept up with the TeaParty stuff in awhile. I’m very sorry to hear that. There is no doubt that there is severe infiltration among them, and also those who are still caught up in the Left/Right paradigm.

            We are all being used…pitted against one another so we will continue to be weak. I do hope that Ron Paul is the real deal. I shall be terribly disappointed if he isn’t. There is not one Republican I would support at this point. There are no true conservatives who haven’t been compromised.

          • Joe H.

            Kate8,
            you have 30 years of proof that he IS the real deal and that is his voting record. I do, however, agree that I too, will be very disappointed if he isn’t the candidate!!

      • Tim

        Alex, The OWS crowd wants something for nothing, and the TEA party crowd doesn’t want to pay for it. Thats the difference between them.
        I believe in the right to protest, but you protest and then go home. You don’t set up camp. If you think you’re going to stay till you get what you want, you better build a house, because your tent will turn to rags and you still won’t have anything. At least the TEA party cleaned up after themselves.
        Theres nothing wrong with a PEACEFUL protest. There IS something wrong with Anarchy.

        • Alex Frazier

          I’m not debating that whatsoever. As I said, I don’t agree with the OWS movement. I just stand behind their Constitutional right to protest, and I condemn the actions of police who pepper spray citizens who are sitting down, assembling peaceably to redress their government for grievances.

          I do not stand behind people who take dumps on police cars, loot their local businesses, riot, or any of that other stuff, though. Just to be clear.

          There’s a correct way to protest violently. It’s called revolution.

  • J.M.R.

    barney don’t let the door hit you in the a&&

    • Les

      The only door that should hit him in the ass is the one attached to a prison cell. He is responsible for the housing crisis.

      • Joe H.

        Les,
        I’d damn sure turn the key to lock the cell, myself!!! Then I’d throw the damn thing AWAY, WELD THE DOOR SHUT, and see to it that he never sees the outside again!!!

    • Jerry

      Nothing can hit Ole Barn in the a##, his “partner” IS WATCHING THAT A##!

  • CP

    Mr. Burton, I would LOVE to have enough in my pocket to spend ONE night in one of those GRAND HOTELS social security pays for us to live in. It is quite apparent you have never even visited, let alone spent any time in one of our oh so fine nursing homes, or had a loved one who was forced into one. If you had, you would be singing a far different song about how grand social security is to live on. If that is your only income, which it is for a large number of retirees, you are making at most maybe twenty five hundred a month, with the average being closer to twelve to fifteen hundred.

    • Tim

      @CB. My mother is paying five thousand dollars a month, and the place looks like a prison.

      • libertytrain

        My father who just died on the 16th was paying $4500 and his place was considered and was high end; extremely clean, fresh, upbeat, well-staffed by a caring staff. They had cats on his floor, the staff could bring their dogs to keep folks company. Food was great and available all the time upon request if necessary.- It was the nicest “college dorm” type atmosphere. And they weren’t held prisoner as other homes do.

        • Joe H.

          libertytrain,
          As long as they aren’t suffering from altzheimers or dementia then they SHOULD be able to come and go as they please!! the only reason they shouldn’t be able to is if it threatens their well being!

          • libertytrain

            He did have dementia but they still allowed us to take him outside for walks, or drives, they were not imprisoned as they are at many homes where they are not allowed even those basic pleasures.

          • Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            I meant by themselves. Yes if they have dementia or altzheimers they should still be able to come and go with CARING family. There are many instances where family is worse than public!! I’m sorry to hear about your loss, by the way.

    • Carol

      And SS doesn’t cover the whole cost of a nursing home anyway. The one where my sister-in-law stayed is now being sued for misuse of funds, and my brother just got a bill from them for over $3000. He has also gotten bills for medical treatment they said was done for her——-a month after she died!!!!!

  • Bob Burton

    Hegelian is too big of a word for them mark… and there is s little diocletian diolectic going on here as well…these cristians will be suprised to find out that they are cheering in their own doom….and I f any of you want to google my name before you call me a liberal….I think you will first find my material seductive…then when you find out it is real ..you will go into a depression for three days…then a day of anger…then on the fifth day you will find reason and critical thinking of you own…as in not provided by propagandist…and you will no longer be trapped in mark’s Hegelian…Whilhel hegel was a Socialist as was his diciple John Dewey.. whe conditioned you in school to be blind….If you can use reason you will find that your comments here will embarass you

    • speedle

      I GET IT. And on the sixth day you arose from the dead, and ascended to the looney farm.

    • Joe H.

      Bob Burton,
      If you need to plagerize someone, next time make sure it isn’t somebody as well listened to as Glen Beck!!! That is exactly almost word for word how he describes the revelation of listening to his work!!

  • Bob Burton

    Your generation should have been more diligent in protecting your investment from the people OWS is protesting against….My wife and i work seven days a week every week and dont bring home that much…We will never see the dollars that are stolen from our checks by the socialist….i take care of my own eledely parents….We all should….But no! socialism is easier for us and we defend it dont we? You cannot serve two masters…If you live by the socialist system…call yourself a socialist ..not a conservative….I support myself by most I am camparable to Attila…your generation went far left….Now we have to pay for your existence and fight for our freedom as you condemn us….I hope that hegelian and diocletion thing does not bring the hate to your generation that it is planned for….better support anyone who fights against thesa @ssols…even if they poop on police cars…the American revolution was proud to do far worse than poop

    • Ted Crawford

      Seems to me more likely Bob, that you have, in stead of opposing it as you believe, only set yourself up as the other extreme in the very Dialectic you wish to defeat!

    • Kate8

      Bob Burton – You can take heart in knowing that there are a FEW of us who understand what you are talking about.

      It involves forgetting EVERYTHING you ever believed to be true, and then opening your eyes. What you will find is that everything you see is illusion, carefully crafted to engineer us in a preset direction. The ideas the PTB wish to instill in each generation are planned well ahead, and implemented incrementally, to make people think they are “progressing” on their own.

      We do not think our own thoughts, even if we think we do. We think the thoughts being fed to us from the matrix. We have been, and are being, manipulated engeniously down a path toward our own destruction, never understanding the forces that appear as our own thoughts.

      Is there a way out at this point? Maybe, if we throw away our TVs and computers, abandon public education, and start actually TALKING to one another. If we stop seeing money as god. If we stop believing in the authority of a run-amok government that is in violation of our Supreme Law of the Land, and worse, Natural Law. They are the criminals, the terrorists. It is THEY who need to be rounded up. WE need to try to shake off the stupor of our fluoridated and sedated minds and grow some spines.

      There is no truth, but only belief. It is intended that we have no access to truth.

      There are those in law enforcement who actually believe in upholding and defending our rights, but are afraid of losing their jobs if they stand for what’s right and protect us from tyranny (sounding like Nazi Germany yet?), so they do as they are told, for the most part.

      http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/good-guys/this-is-still-america.html

      Herein lies the problem: fear. Again, we are controlled by the money god, even unto death.

      • Cheaptrick

        Good posts, Kate8, Bob Burton, JUKEBOX and FreedomFighter. The videos posted are especially informative. Just to reassure you a little, Kate8, although, we are few in numbers now, more are waking up each day. Remember this, it was less than 5% of the population that fought against the tyranny that brought about the Revolutionary War. The numbers haven’t changed from that occasion, the sheeple still outnumber shepherds, YET, we tore a hole in the fabric of Tyranny. I have no doubt that the same result should occur. The difference being, especially this time around, more of the sheep will be taken to slaughter for their sins of ignorance and silence.

        ” To sin by silence, when they should protest, makes cowards of men.” Abraham Lincoln

        • Alex Frazier

          Nice quote from Lincoln, even if he was a scumbag.

      • john-douglas

        I think Kate8 deserves the ‘Oscar’ for the best coments and replies posted in/on this column. Most, not all, of the rest would be rejected for any “B-grade” movie. Dewey’s dumbingdown of nearly three generations of the American people via his ‘education’ program/system is truly tragic. Now all are suffering from his socialist KRAP = (knowledge trendered athiestic propaganda).
        Carry on Kate8 – JDoN

        • Kate8

          Bless you, john-douglas. I just speak from my heart.

          The truth can never be deduced by intellect, which believes in (and is fooled by) appearances. Truth can only be found through the spirit.

          It is our belief in erroneous concepts, through erroneous thoughts, that keep us bound to a world of sorrow.

      • Joseph

        Very encouraging Kate8, good find! Thank you for sharing that with us!!!

    • Marten, Canadian Libertarian

      You were a free range kid…a very good post…thank you

  • Tom Lamberth

    Barney, we will miss you. Bye SUCKER!!!!!

  • barry@studebakersite.com

    Thanks, Mr. Burton. We need to begin to think deeply and critically. The patriots in this country have been losing ground for 3 generations, and it has been the leaders we have elected who have sold us out. We can not blame the Dems. The problem is not with hippies and minorities demanding a free ride, it is the rich globalists who steal our freedom, destroy our sovereignty, keep us at war, and impoverish us. Newt Gingrich is their standard bearer.

    • jerry sweet

      nope.wrong!its because we have allowed GOD and his moral influence to be thrown aside.now we are going to be thrown aside.GET RIGHT with CHRIST or get dead the choice is yours and yours alone.you only get one,better think long and hard,if you need to.but with America dying in front of our eyes ,you really dont have much time

      • http://naver samurai

        True and to the point. We need to get back to the ways we were founded, on Christian principles. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Tom Cook

    Just about as great as South Park! Keep ‘em coming Ben; I don’t miss one ever. Very funny. Makes my day–skewer all who deserve it.

  • http://naver samurai

    You can also go to this site and see other things about Obama bin Laden.

    http://www.realcatholicTV.com

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • eddie47d

      Always trying to be cute aren’t you Samurai instead of being honest. Bin Laden is dead so you are the one making a clown out of yourself with those childish misnomers.

      • http://naver samurai

        Yes, Osama bin Laden is dead, but when did he die? It wasn’t during Obama bin Laden’s term. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://Boblivingston Lyle McDaniel

    Mark, you must have firsthand informaion about Iran, . how much more inside information could you share with us. Must be one of them.

  • Kurier Radek

    “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the East might be prepared” (Revelation 16:12). The drawing-away of the Holy Spirit from apostatising Western (once Christian) civilization gradually diminished our invisible barrier and defence of faith in the Word. Thus the pagan ways of the kings of the East were entertained and adopted in place of faith. Foreign aid, intermarriage, immigration and preferential tariffs began. We have since transferred our manufacturing industries to these strange people. With no manufacturing we have unemployment and no self-reliance in the event of hostilities. Furthermore, we fall further under obligation to the foreign bankers.

    The Hegelian dialectic is being employed to secure and sustain absolute world power and authority to an elite. We have fallen into a Hegelian trap and don’t know it.

    • Cheaptrick

      A better reading of the Scriptures, Kurier, concerning the present. Would be that; “the coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Th. 2:9-11

      Could this strong delusion being talked about in the Scriptures be pertaining to the left/right paradigm, that most are caught up in, which is also accomplished through the Hegelian dialectic (principle)?

      • Alex Frazier

        I doubt it. Just like I doubt that Barney the purple dinosaur adds up to 666. Every generation thinks they are in the last times. Read your scripture. Jesus said that the then present generation would not pass until all those thing were fulfilled.

      • Kate8

        Cheaptrick – I do believe that the Left/Right paradigm is part of it.

        Alex – You are misunderstanding scripture. Yeshua said that the first sign of the end of days would be the regathering of the nation of Israel. The generation who sees THIS is the one which would not pass away before the “end” comes.

        Many generations have believed that they were the last, but they did not see the fulfillment of all the signs of the End Times. The only one which has is the present one, and nearly all of the signs are now fulfilled, and in rapid succession.

        • Alex Frazier

          Kate, I promise you I’m not misunderstanding anything. I’ve been studying scripture for over twenty years. I’m as astute with it as I am with economics and everything else I study. I am very thorough, and I possess the rare quality of open-mindedness that most people lack.

          If you care to discuss the topic, you are more than welcome to email me privately. I’ll happily carry on a conversation on that topic to your satisfaction. I don’t promise that you’ll be convinced of my positions, but I promise that you’ll at least understand them, and hopefully respect them.

          afrazier @ifonlyphotos. com

          • Kate8

            Alex – I can’t see where that would be of any real benefit. I, too, have studied Biblical scriptures, as well as many others, and I continue to get new meaning all the time. Daniel tells us that much of prophecy wouldn’t be understood until the Last Days. With the advent of computers, which can decipher things that the human mind cannot, with the revelations that come with the signs as they unfold, and with the further revelations coming to many of us through the Holy Spirit in visions, dreams and knowledge…Add that to the prophecies of the Hopi and other ancient peoples…

            Plus the fact that we are at the end of a 26,000 year galactic cycle, as well as a 104,000 year cycle, not to mention a 5,000 to 7,000 year (depending on who you ask) civilization cycle…

            When you look at all things against the very large backdrop of prophecy, along with the descent of humanity into degradation, corruption, decay, and the extreme polarization that occurs just prior to the end of a civilization…

            I doubt that the End Times is the end of the world, but only the end of the world as we know it. It’s also highly likely that 80 to 90% of the Earth’s population will perish, whether it is at the hands of the elite bent on mass genocide or by the passing of a celestial body large enough to bring devastation to the whole Earth…or whatever…
            The people of this Earth simply cannot go on the way we are, enslaved to such extreme evil and deception. Evil always self-destructs, as it contains within it the seeds of death. And the evil machinations of those in power and the MIC which serves them goes far beyond anything most of us could possibly fathom on our worst days.

          • Alex Frazier

            Kate, the book of Daniel also says that it was to be sealed up until the last days, and the book of Daniel has been unsealed for over 2000 years.

            Things may not be understood until the last days because no one ever sees anything until it’s too late. Just like the days of Noah, etc. It doesn’t necessarily mean that we need television, computers, and so on in order to understand what was foretold. You’re reading things into Daniel that it doesn’t say.

            I don’t put stock in further revelations of anyone. We have the information that matters. God made the prophets write it down, and Peter is specific in saying that no scripture of prophecy is of private interpretation. Among the epiphanies of people via visions, dreams and knowledge, we have sects like the Jehovah’s Witness and the Mormons.

            Relative to the Revelation in the bible, I don’t much care about the Hopi or other ancient civilizations. The bible doesn’t contain the book of Hopi. It’s mixing apples and oranges.

            I don’t care about it being the end of any cycle. No man knows the day or the hour. People have been trying to calculate the end for centuries with logic and common sense. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.

            And you really need to study history if you think that the evils of our current day are worse than those of the past. We may have bigger weapons, but the story is no different than it has ever been. We’re still a pale reflection of the wickedness that was ancient Rome.

            Yet, the world survived then, too.

            I’ll say again, if you care to carry on a private conversation on this topic, I’m happy to discuss it with you. But there are way too many particulars to do it here.

          • Kate8

            Alex – I am extremely careful to whom I give access to my email address. I do not know you.

            What I see is that you are closed-minded and have your head in the sand. You also seem to be entrenched in some religious dogma that rejects the idea that God speaks to us today…I mean, how else does He communicate to us except through ourselves and each other? Sure, there are lots of false prophets, but their reliability is when their prophecies pan out. God promised to send (the spirit of) Elijah in the Last Days. If we have a close relationship with Him, He will guide us.

            I trust my relationship with God, and what he tells me, over anything you or anyone else could say. As for computers (I did not say TV), they are able to decipher extrememely complex numerical codes from the original Hebrew of the Torah that no human mind could have devised, much less decipher. And when there are points of Scripture that coincide with other ancient writings, I find that credible. God set up existence to function in cycles (all things do) and I do not at all find it at all odd. He knows the end from the beginning, and He also said that, while no one would know the day nor he hour, we would definitely know when it was “at the door”. He promised that we would know when we are in the “season”. In fact, Yeshua chastised His deciples for being able to know when spring was at hand, but could not read the signs of the times. WE ARE COMMANDED TO WATCH, AND KNOW.

            There is no one who is less open to new information than someone steeped in religious belief. This is my problem with religion today: they wouldn’t know a revelation from God if it whacked them over the head. They would dismiss it outright because it wouldn’t fit with the dogma to which they so tightly cling.

            Blessings to you, and Godspeed.

          • Alex Frazier

            If you feel like you need to be careful, then don’t write.

            You have formed a rather intense opinion of me. Are people no longer allowed to reason and to follow facts to their natural conclusions?

            You told me that I was misunderstanding scripture because you think, “this generation” means “that generation. You said that the regathering of Israel was the first sign of the end of days, but Jesus didn’t say anything of the sort. That comes from one the OT prophets, and refers to the return from Babylon. Now you say that God promised to send the spirit of Elijah in the last days, yet, “all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” That’s Matthew 11:13-15.

            You accuse me of having my head in the sand. On what topic might that be so? Do you mean to suggest that I am unable to see the end of the world coming, as per your interpretation of things? Do you mean to say that I am unable to see the danger of a nuclear Iran, according to your assessment of the threat?

            You accume me of being close-minded. Why is that? Because I didn’t immediately bow down to what you had to say? I have a mind of my own. I’ve done my homework. Disagreeing with you doesn’t make me close-minded. It just makes me in disagreement with you. And I offered the conversation to let you try to convince me of an alternate point of view. you refused. What more fault is it of mine that we disagree?

            You accuse me of being “entrenched in some religious dogma,” and then you psuedo-criticize me for rejecting the idea that you have personal communication with God. Where are your signs? Where are your miracles? I didn’t see you in the wilderness eating honey and locusts, spreading the gospel. You ask, “how else does He communicate to us except through ourselves and each other,” and I answer that he speaks to us through his word, and through the prophets. I even believe he speaks to us privately in a gut-feeling kind of way. But that’s a far cry from sitting face to face with him and having a conversation until our faces start to glow like Moses’.

            If you think God speaks to us through each other, did it ever occur to you that he might be speaking to you through me? I guess that’s not possible, huh? Because you know better than I do what the bible says, even though you have misquoted or misinterpretted everything you’ve said yet.

            Do you think you’re intelligent because you’ve “discovered” the bible code? Are you also aware that the bible code software works on Moby Dick and War and Peace? Have you seen the software with your own eyes? I have. The words and combination of words that they “find” in the Hebrew text are the very words they plug in.

            I’ve researched and explored all of these things. I hold to a position on the Revelation that would have half the Christian population ready to stone me. I have experimented with the bible code. I knew about the Myan calendar system before the History Channel even did a piece on it.

            I don’t want to be at odds with you Kate. You seem like a nice enough of a lady. Chill with the condescension. I haven’t done it to you, I haven’t provoked it, and I don’t like it.

          • Kate8

            Alex – I don’t want to argue with you, either. You are entitled to your point of view. But you are declaring that I am misquoting scriptures. Fine. Think whatever you want.

            Too many religions teach that God only speaks through the Word, the prophets of old. To assume that He stopped speaking to His Creation with John I find patently absurd. God is the same yesterday, TODAY, and forever.

            I feel, as you feel about me, that you are condescending to me. This is another problem with Christian denominations…they are very hostile toward one another. Yeshua makes clear in Revelation what He thinks of churches in the last days.

            You’re right. I don’t know anything about you. Who’s to say who is right about scripture. Maybe both, maybe neither. We all do the best we can. Scriptures are interpreted in myriad ways. Personally, I feel that there are many layers of truth in them, and only through diligent study and prayer can we discern the deeper truths. As you said, “for those with ears to hear”.

          • Joe H.

            Alex,
            As to your statement on prophets, remember the Lord himself said to “Beware the FALSE prophet”!!!

        • Cheaptrick

          Hi Kate8
          We were very impressed as we were reading all your posts. My friend, Lisa, had remarked how refreshing it was to see another woman so well informed, both Scriptural and about the world we live in. It is a rarity, especially, where we live, right in the heart of Freemason territory. Don’t ask, I have no idea why YHWH has placed us here, all I know is, it was divine intervention that He had made it that I should inherit this land. He compelled me, that I should make a sanctuary for those that He has chosen to place in the wilderness. This I am certain of, because of all the events that had transpired, which led to my being steward of this land, and in light of the course of things yet to come.

          We were also intrigued by the means in which you had handled the dialogue you had with Alex. Our suspicions are that he may be a Preterist with secular leanings. His self-absorption was very telling in one of his paragraphs, where he refers to himself no less than 8 times as an intellectual authority. Forsaking any semblance of common sense. His comment on his doubt that the left/right paradigm not being part and parcel of the strong delusion, was revealing of his omissions of the present day signs. While we see evidence of 666 in so many applications, he obviously chooses to ignore its veracity. We found these to be common traits within the Preterist sect.

          It was also interesting to learn that you are a reader of Dr. Mercola’s newsletter. Another rare instance, people need to be aware of Dr. Mercola’s existence, and take advantage of the information he has to offer, before he is removed from the internet. As each passing day, through legislation and other means, we will see more of this type of knowledge disappear.

          I can’t begin to tell you how pleased we were, being a new participant of this forum, to be able to encounter an individual, such as yourself, with the same mindset and understanding as ours. It seems we will have to visit this site frequently, in hopes to enjoy reading more of your comments, if anything else.

          May Yahshua continue to guide you and instruct you, as you journey along the Way. Hopefully, some time in the future, we will be made privileged to make your acquaintance.

          • Kate8

            Cheaptrick – Your post warmed my heart, indeed! I, too, find it refreshing to find others who’s sense of things encompasses far more than dogma as we have learned it. We are part of something far more vast than what we can comprehend at this point, as the more we take in, the more we realize we don’t know! We have barely scratched the surface.

            I haven’t been here much lately because, while there are a few posters that I truly respect, it is rare to find one with whom I can really have a great exchange. There is so much bashing and disrespect…I really don’t like getting into that.

            I don’t mind Alex. I’m used to being criticized, and have taken far worse. :) We all work with what understanding we have, and it is good to bless one another and continue on. As time goes on, my own understanding shifts and changes, so what I hold to today may have new meaning tomorrow. That is why I try not to cling to beliefs, but to let the gleanings flow into the next revelation.

            While I try to remain humble, as I understand that I am only a fellow traveller through this dimension, I am not always perceived as such. I suppose it is because I am passionate about things, and maybe come off as too intense. Ah well, maybe, by the Grace of God, He’ll hone the places where I fall short.

            Thank you for your comments. I hope to see you here again, and maybe even find another way to communicate.

            Blessings.

    • JUKEBOX

      As I have said many times before, HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF. If you don’t believe this, just get into a study of the Old Testament. If you are a believer, your eyes should be opened.

  • FreedomFighter

    In this time of troubles and lawlessness a good chuckle is welcome, keep up the good work Bem

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Cheaptrick

    There are none more blind, than those that refuse to see, Bob. To further explain your analogy, people have to recognize that it is a metaphor. My experience in waking up to the left-right paradigm was ostensibly different than what you presented. It was a combination of fear, depression and despair. Followed by anger and confusion about what options (choices) were available. Resulting in relief and an uncanny calm through self-education. The Hegelian dialectic (principle), however, does appear to be the key to expose the machinations of the elite that present us with s/elections of no longer the “lesser of two evils”. The time frame, I might add, was much longer than a few days. Only because the re-educational process bled into years, of which now also encompasses diligent observation and active participation.
    No longer can we afford to believe that,apathy,is a solution for non-consent.

    Denial, is a polluted river in life, in which the Fools and the Despots they support, attempt to wash away their Shame and Guilt.

  • http://none BAP362

    The Iranians have a neo-nuclear program designed to rattle our cage just as Sadam Husein rattled our cage which eventually led us into a retoric of false assumtions which eventually led us into trillion dollar wars which will eventually totaly break us financialy and lead to our total loss of internal security and promote our final decay.

    • jerry sweet

      saddams nonexistant nukes is not why bush got us into iraq.its been iran all along,but they were being quiet at that moment in time and hussien was just the mouthy blowhard to use as the ruse and the powers to be wanted to cause as much chaos and confusion as possible ,to slow down the muslims march toward world domination.but all the blind bush and hillary and the rest did was destroy the best deterrent to iran there was, their next door neighbor.with hussien gone then the persians can march on to there goal of,yep you got it,muslim world slavery.except that ain’t happenin either.when the Jews ,powered by GOD HIMSELF get thru there wont be enough muslims left to form a ball team.YOU dont touch the apple of GODS eye and get away with it.for all you non believers and cowards out there who think killing all the Jews will solve all your problems,man is GOD going to ,well lets just say SURPRIZE!!!

      • Tim

        The weapons of mass destruction weren’t nukes, it was gas, and he used it to kill the Kurds. He killed whole villages.
        After the first gulf war we said he could still use his Helicopters, and that’s what he did with them. Mustard gas is a weapon of mass destruction.

        • Kate8

          Tim – Well, gee. Our own government is doing the same thing to us, just using slower methods, like chemtrails, toxic food and water, vaccinations, medications…

    • Dale on the left coast

      The wars were Cheap . . . compated to say Bawney’s Fannie/Freddie adventure . . . and of course the Out-of-Control spending of the O’bammy Administration in 3 short years.

      • http://naver samurai

        Right on! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Madeline

    Mr. Dabney, and the other morons on here who seem to hate israel. I would comment, but I do not answer a “fool in his folly”.

    • http://naver samurai

      I don’t hate Israel. I believe in defending them against all their enemies, no matter who they are. I remember reading,”I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you.” Could this be on reason for God punishing us, by Obama bin Laden pulling all support from Israel and shifting it to the muslims? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • FreedomFighter

    Congress has declared war on the American people

    The military in the streets of America

    Obama can take you without due process, jail or kill you

    America is NOW a battlefield and we Americans are the occupied.

    Take a stand for America, your freedom, your childrens freedom for surely they are taking it away at this very moment. You and all other Americans are now slaves and the slave masters are using our own sons and daughters in the military to enslave us

    The time of choice is upon us, choose freedom.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQExMBvJB2M&feature=uploademail

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Kate8

      FreedomFighter – It looks like the real show (at least for America) is about to start.

      Most Americans are lambs being led to slaughter. Did we really think that, when these things have been going on all over the world, that it would never touch us here? Yep. We did.

      Congress is doing exactly what Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and others did. They like things to be nice and legal.

  • jerry sweet

    mark,mark,mark dabney THERE are no peacesful muslims.read the koran,its now in english.as far as jews and muslims loving each other,not happinin dude!btw when the muslims make the move to wipe out ISRAEL,and its going to take place real soon,people like you will be curled up under a rock someplace,screeming for their lives.iran has nukes and the jews are going to take care of the problem.GOD is still running things down here dabney not you.so get a real life,you know a life that can see reality for what it really is,ah reality

    • Karolyn

      But there are peaceful Muslims, just as there are hateful, vengeful, cruel, mean Christians. Just because someone takes their religious affiliation from a book does not mean that they hold the same interpretation or meaning that another of the same religion does. Open your eyes and ears, man! There’s even a new reality show on now with Muslim families trying to be good Americans in Dearborn, Michigan. They are regular people just like anybody else. And if you try to say they are not REAL Muslims, try telling them that. Try telling a Catholic he is not a Christian, as some believe.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Karolyn . . . read a History Book . . . Egypt was once a Coptic Christian Country, not working out well today.
        When there are 10 of THEM . . . and 4 of YOU . . . I would not be a Plugged-Nickle on you chances of Survival!!!

        • Joseph

          Your fear of muslims has been bred into you by the jewish controlled media! Ask yourself, who owns the central banks that are constantly stealing from us, and are about to create an economic disaster. The muslims? Wake up!

          • Kate8

            The Koran forbids Muslims from befriending non-Muslims. It commands them to lie and deceive them until they are strong enough to overcome them.

            The Bible demands no such thing.

            Maybe there are some Muslims who don’t follow their religion. I guess we’ll soon be finding out. Even if there are, the numbers of those who do is enough to inflict some serious damage.

            That being said, I do realize that we are all at the mercy of the beliefs in which we were raised. It’s really sad.

          • Joe H.

            Joseph,
            Tell that to the little Ohio girl that was threatened with DEATH by her own father because she converted to Chritianity!! Oh yeah, her father was MUSLIM!!!
            and to karolyn,
            on the very first show of that series there is a woman that says she was getting on a flight and a woman behind her LOOKED nervous. She told the woman to get the hell off the flight as SHE had to go to a class she was teaching to overcome their apprehension of Muslims. now just how the hell did she know for sure that THAT was what she was nervous about? She couldn’t, she jumped to a conclusion!! There are many different groups of muslims in the US trying to get sharia law instituted in the US. Well they can kiss where the sun don’t shine!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Kate8 and Joe H. I’ll agree that there are muslims that are peacefull, but when they are called upon by some cleric, the quaran, and allah, they’ll turn into the opposite at the dropping of a hat. Joseph seems to be a bleeding heart for them. Tell you what Joseph, you tell me what you know and I’ll tell you if you are wrong or not. I’ve dealt withhese people in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Many of the ons I knew who befriend you, but some would do what they could to stab you in the back. Personal experience. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            samurai – I do believe that Islam is being used as a tool of the PTB to cause us all to distrust and annihilate one another. Things were fine when Muslims occupied their own lands and lived as they wished, and we did the same. Opening the doors of America to them was primarily to put Americans in jeopardy while our military was sent over there to interfere in their affairs.

            Everything that has happened on a world scale has been orchestrated, evolving (devolving) toward a plan. The fires of hatred and distrust have been bred among Muslims for eons, while we’ve been fascinated with accumulating stuff.

            There is no doubt that Muslims have reason to hate us…but we’ve been used and set up just as they have. Now we’ve been led to fear them, all of us being victims of mind-control and the manipulation of reality.

            We are all just people, with no real quarrel with one another, except that we are all reacting to propaganda with a purpose. We are all sucked into the game, believing we have a cause. Nothing works better to empassion a people than religious fervor. And we are all nothing but pawns.

  • jerry sweet

    some of the biggest reasons America is in trouble–liberals,cowards,liberals,jew haters,GOD haters,liberals,and did i mention LIBERALS

    • eddie47d

      Gotta love these new Crusaders who are always looking for a new war. That would be you Jerry “sour”. Will you personally attend all the funerals of American troops who die in your next provoked war? Since you talk like you are a member of Westboro Baptist Church then we can assume you will be. Coward is too kind of a word for you!

      • Tim

        @eddie,(I used a small e on purpose, because you would be a submissive.) I’m sure you would be to big of a coward to serve your country.
        You call for peace on earth, which ain’t going to happen, and not because of the USA.
        You can spout your bullsh*t because people came to the aid of their country, and fought and died when they had to.
        Apparently, you are too young to remember Communism.
        They built the Berlin wall to keep people in, not out. And people died trying to get out. I don’t see anyone trying to get out of this country do you?
        In all the wars we have fought, the only land we took and kept was enough to bury our dead.
        We have an all volunteer Army, and God bless them for what they do.
        Remember one thing. When you Leftys decide to start a revolution, we have all the guns.

        Vietnam Vet 66′ 67′

        • Joseph

          Yes, and the same people that created communism in Russia, are now running the US, and Israel. So before you get too excited, and start drooling at the thought of another war with Iran, think about who is throwing the stick for you to fetch. Dumb doggy!

          • Kate8

            Good for you, Joseph.

            All that these wars are accomplishing (and that includes the “war on terror”) is fulfilling the plans of some very evil, psychopathic power-mongers. If we’d all just see how our minds are manipulated, stop fighting amonst ourselves, and refuse to carry wars around the globe, those in power could do nothing. It is WE who are fulfilling their horrendous plans. Without their armies, they would be nothing.

            Our greatest weapons are those of truth, working to wake people up to the knowledge that we are being used to destroy ourselves.

          • Joe H.

            hile much of what you say is true, I would hasten to add that WW@ did stop the plans of a couple of OTHER power hungry mad men!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – We were sucked into that war because the PTB wanted us in. It is now known that those in high office were aware that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed…and did nothing to stop it.

            I longed believed that, too, Joe. Only now I’m not so sure what to believe. Ask the Japanese, and they have a completely different version of what happened. And they claim to have won the war.

            All I’m saying is that our minds have been shaped to see things in a certain way. You can’t prove history after the fact. Seeing just who those in control are, and what they want, and how they operate…I wouldn’t stake anything on what they say about anything.

          • Joe H.

            Kate8,
            I’m not sayin that we weren’t suckered into WW2 by the giverment, but I AM sayin that we stoppd Hitler and Hirohito from their plans of conquest! You DO remember what Japan did to China don’t you? They had also done some very atrocious things in the Philipines. Most, if not all of Europe would now be under the control of socialist Germany right now.

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – True, as far as it goes. But don’t forget that the NWO elite, who were around then as now, were funding all sides of the war, and dictating every move. Pearl Harbor was another false flag, like the sinking of ships and bombing of buildings, in order to bring Americans on board with the war.

            If history is correct, we hadn’t yet come under their full conrol, but they were building their system and manipulating our economy since the beginning of the Fed. Or, at least, not all of our politicians were yet in on it. But they had planned the wars, including three world wars, to bring them to full power. I can’t say that it was intended that America stop the war, but I can’t say that it wasn’t, either. Why did the PTB WANT us in the war? I suspect it was largely for profit, among other things. War brings the wealthy ever more wealth.

            All I’m saying is that there is more than what we’ve been taught.

        • Joe H.

          Tim,
          “submissive”? Is that anything like “Catcher”?

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – Eeeeewwww! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Karolyn

      Some of the biggest reasons America is in trouble – greed, power, greed, hate, greed, arrogance, greed, pride, self-righteousness, greed, selfishness, dishonesty and more greed.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Karolyn . . . the real reason USA is in trouble . . . the products of the progressive/socialist education system now outnumber the hardworking, tax-paying normal folks.
        The dimicraps since Johnson Administration have created a dependent welfare class that have become modern-day slaves to govt.
        If you want to talk about Greed, Power, Hate and Arrogance . . . look no further than the O’bammy WH.

        • Joseph

          Bullsh*t, all past administrations did their part, conspired, to bring us to where we are today, in the crapper! Left and right, dems and cons, all, working together, playing the old good-cop/bad-cop game. Amazing that people still fall for that idiotic game! The problem is not a corrupt administration. The problem is citizens asleep at their posts!

          • Joe H.

            joseph,
            This is true, but Abummer has stepped it up ten-fold!!! Maybe a hundred-fold!!

          • Joseph

            No argument here, JoeH!

  • Buck

    Anyone still defending , supporting , or even not speaking ill of this criminal America hating miscreat needs to be heavily sedated for their own safety , they are obviously extremely dangerously derranged . Obamass has done NOTHING for this country and has damaged it worse than the civil war . From this day forward we owe nothing for our evil foray into slavery , by allowing Obamass to financially destroy us we have paid out debt to the black race . NO ! I am NOT a racist , I votede for ALLEN KEYS in the primary George Bush won .

    • eddie47d

      Speaking of deranged the men in white coats will soon be outside your door!

      • FreedomFighter

        Obey your master Eddie.

        Brown shirted TSA you mean.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Kate8

          eddie – For goodness sake…Can’t you see that Obama is nothing but another frontman for the corporate banking elite? He appoints officials from their ranks, speaks the words they give him to deceive, and caters wholly to their interests.

          As much as you detest corporations, I can’t understand how you like Obama. He’s their main man right now.

          • http://naver samurai

            Because ed-duh is just another sheeple. Unions are know for being lead by the nose by progressive traitors and cowards. Maybe not in the beginning, but they sure are these days. That’s one reason Sook Young and the hospital won’t allow in any unions. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            samurai – Ah, the unions. I forgot. Thanks.

          • http://naver samurai

            N problem Kate8. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            There is never any problem with the right and all the lying they do. Did I mention all the misinformation and hate they sprew out? How about all the false allegations they are so proud of? Reread your posts and come back with something intelligent instead of all this rabid swill!

          • Kate8

            eddie – What? More accusations totally devoid of substance. We are all still waiting for specifics from you, but won’t be holding our breath.

            Besides, no one is touting Republicans. What on Earth does that have to do with what Odumbo does, anyway? If one side is wrong, does that justify the other? How many times do we have to say THEY ARE ALL CORRUPT before you stop excusing the current Usurper in Chief’s misdeads? Has he done anything to put things right? NO! He’s just taken us many miles further down the same path of devastation! And he’s been laughing all the way.

            Grow up, eddie. We’re tired of this “your guy was worse than my guy” idiocy. No doubt, when Obama has left America a smoking pile of rubble, you Lefties will still be proclaiming that it was all Bush’s fault.

          • eddie47d

            Samurai “plays the left/right game all the time or haven’t you noticed. Don’t be so self righteous against me since most who comment here can be just as guilty. Selective name calling Kate?

          • Kate8

            What name-calling, eddie? There you go again.

            You are like a spoiled child. “He did it to me first! Whaa whaa!”
            “So what if I did! You (he) did it worse!” “So what if my guy is treasonous. Your guy is, too”.

            Sheesh, eddie.

          • http://naver samurai

            Show me where I said my guy is better than yours. I say conservatives and libs, but I haven’t mentioned any one person, now did I? No politician is perfect, but some are better than others. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. I guess that 47 must be your IQ.

          • Joe H.

            Samurai,
            You did mention obama bin laden, but for GOOD REASON!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks Joe H! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • wildmann

        If’n you’d a thought of it First, you’d have used your real name, Lt. Col ret. Hal Donohue!! of Huffingpuff. I recognize the [Lack] of prose style.

        • libertytrain

          gee I don’t know, most of the Retired Lt. Colonels I’ve met or known come across with intelligence. He doesn’t. Unless of course, he was using a fraudulent name as Lt. Col.

          • wildmann

            Lt. Col. Hal Donohue is Very Real. Has his own Huff Po Blog/By-Line, And is Very Intelligent! He’s just misguided. Or, he enjoys playing Devil’s advocate. I don’t know many/any, retired military that support Marxist Ideas.

          • Kate8

            libertytrain – I wish that were true for me, but my own sister is a retired full-bird colonel, and she hasn’t a clue.

            Military people are trained to carry out orders, not question them. I do hope there are many who can think for themselves, who would refuse to turn on their countrymen. But it will only happen if they are exposed to things like Oathkeepers to wake up their minds and get their priorities straight.

          • http://naver samurai

            I was also trained to obey legal orders and not illegal ones. Ergo, if the progessives do take control, I see many in the military to be disobeying them. FOR D AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            That should be FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            samurai – Yes, but many of the young people of today don’t know the Constitution and honor the way the past generations did. They have been socially indoctrinated to believe in ultimate government authority, and they’ve been dumbed down and fluoridated to make them compliant. If history hold true, many will obey orders, even if it means turning against their countrymen.

            Plus, don’t forget that many of the troops on our soil are foreign. They will have no compunction about rounding up and/or firing on Americans, just as our soldiers do in foreign lands. Who knows, they may even come up against our own troops.

            I saw interviews with some of the younger set who admitted that they would murder helpless victims if ordered by government, under penalty of their own death. Check out the movie “180″ on YouTube (I was going to post a link but there were severe warnings for any distribution of it.) It’s shocking how people think, and how much they don’t know about history.

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree with you Kate8. Our younger people just aren’t up to snuff with our history and our founding. You know, my school had a student transfer in from one of the city schools (His parents moved into our township.) and he said we were founded on the principles of doing whatever feels good. I asked him where did he learn such crap. You know what he told me? He said his father and his former history teacher. After about a week in my class, he hasn’t stopped asking questions and still insists he’s right. So this weekend I prepared a packet (about 100 pages) showing how we were founded. He’ll probably still try to debate me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            Guess I’ve been fortunate with those I’ve met and known. Sorry Kate, we all seem to have goofy sisters these days :)

          • Kate8

            samurai – I didn’t know that you are a teacher. That is wonderful!

            liberty – My sister isn’t all that goofy. She is a TeaPartier. She just still believes in Right/Left and doesn’t want to know about the NWO. She thinks things are as they’ve always been, and that if we just replace Obama with a Republican everything will be okay.

            She won’t even consider Ron Paul. She still believes in Rush.

          • http://naver samurai

            Not only am I a teacher, but Sook Young and I are going to support Ron Paul. I hope he is chosen during the caucus next year. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          wildman,
          Is Hal “The drunken man” donohue still on town Hall??? What a horses AZZ!!!

  • wildmann

    I Believe that Hal–formerly Head Troll, and resident Obama-Bot Drunk on TH, has Moved Here, and is Posting as “Eddie 47 D cup”!!

    • Karolyn

      eddie has been on this blog for several years, wildman.

  • wildmann

    Hal Donohue is Eddie47d??? I’ve made this Observation Several Times, and it has not been denied, to my knowledge

    • eddie47d

      What is your IQ again wildmann please do tell! Does anyone here know a Hal Donohue to clear up wildmann’s confusion? Anyway, wildmann has poor Observation skills and needs a little coaching.

      • wildmann

        Eddie47d Hal Donohue has been around for years, if ya Ever make it to TH.—Still no Denial.– I just noticed he hasn’t been at TH lately, and has been known to Troll other sites, He’s Real, Search the name,at HuffPo if you’re NOT Him. Sure Sound alike. Haunting Conservative sites, taking people Off-Topic. As far as IQ, I have a B.A. Social Science, from back when, when you had to attend classes and Pass tests. I’m sure, your Ed. experience is more OWS.

        • Kate8

          I doubt that eddie, and some others, are paid bloggers, and also use more than one moniker.

          As much as they deny and protest, I just can’t imagine any other reason why they’d be here, day after day, year after year, among people who see them as…well…I won’t say it.

          People who genuinely want to express concerns like to go to places where they’ll find like-minded souls to share thoughts, not just go to a site where all they do is ridicule. It might pay well, but it seems pretty pointless.

          • Karolyn

            kate – I’ve stated this before: “Why preach to the choir?” Some people just like to challenge others to think in a different way. What fun is it to be constantly surrounded by those who agree with one? I do not like to argue with people person to person and am highly non-confrontational (although I’ve gotten better with age). I think I fear losing control. Discussing sensitive issues in this manner keeps it all anonymous, and who knows? Somebody might actually take a kernel and nibble on it. Of course, there are instances where we all do agree, which is fun too – seeing each other as equals and not enemies.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – That depends on one’s approach. When paid bloggers like eddie come and just hurl insults and ridicule, it only invites like response. No one hears anyone, and the whole exchange is meaningless, trivial and mean-spirited.

            Besides, no one can enjoy this indefinitely. It gets old. Believe me, there is plenty of diversity of opinion among those who are like-minded, without the nasty insults. Why keep on rehashing the same old points of contention that are non-negotiable?

            We aren’t really interested in your “seeds”. What makes you think you know so much better than anyone else? I will admit that you are (usually) not into slurring and insults, and I can enjoy your posts that are respectful. I guess that is the issue here, isn’t it? Being respectful. On BOTH sides.

            And also, that you Lefties respect the fact that this is a primairly conservative and libertarian forum, and not come here just to incite nastiness. That serves no legitimate purpose.

          • Karolyn

            Agreed, Kate, although I don’t think eddie is paid. For me, joining this blog is an opportunity to learn and share. To someone with an open mind, nothing should be off-limits, and there is always something new to learn. However, when all people want to do is ridicule each other, that is another story. There are far too many who only value their own opinion, and think anyone with a different opinion is worthless (and worse). No one knows it all!

        • Joe H.

          wildman,
          you know, you have a real point there. He does sound a lot like drunken Hal!!! Is he still pointman for code pink???

          • http://naver samurai

            Pink? Isn’t that the color of his panties that seem to be all in knots these days? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            before I came here to PLD, i used to go to TH. Hal “the drunk” Donohue was the biggest blowhard there! Used to comment how the VA hospital could do no wrong. He was a patient there and tried to sign up every patient there to be progs!! Well i wonder what he’s going to do NOW since I read where they are going to close Walter Reed down?? This guy was a prime pimple on a progs butt!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I understand what you are saying, fellow patriot. I guess I’m a little slow on the uptake, but what is the TH? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            samurai,
            That would be Town Hall, a conservative site on the net. It’s not bad, but I like PLD better!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks for the info Joe H. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Kate loves calling me a paid blogger and now wildmann is on the band wagon even saying I’m someone else…and Kate attempts to agree.I should take “getting paid” as a compliment since they have to be very informed Thanks Kate!

          • Kate8

            In your dreams, eddie.

            I think you are delusional.

          • http://naver samurai

            He is. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jerry sweet

    bob burton,laugh and scoff and dirty your underwear all you want.JESUS CHRIST and HIS TRUE CHRISTIAN CHURCH will have the last LAUGH. btw you dont know what true terror is,but if you stand before the JUDGE on judgement day,you will know it then!let me see,we who are made out of dirt,we are going to overthrow GOD and he lives inside fire umm dont sound to bbrite to me thar ol bob and your pelagi what isim you all try make uh ,oh well gooly gee bob i think you really never had a mind in thee first place.maybe up till you filled it with all this pagan crap you’re spewing.i dont even think the libs know what your talking about.oh silly me,they NEVER know anything rational anyway

    • Karolyn

      jerry – Try using your brain a little more and quoting from an ancient book a little less and you may learn something.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Definitely a progressive notion: if something is old, it’s outworn and outdated.

        There is much to learn from ancient writings, which are as true today as they ever were. That’s why the PTB don’t want us to read them. It’s the ideas of today that are twisted.

        There are many who hold the Scriptures as their guide to wisdom. They aren’t going to change because some liberal says so.

      • Joe H.

        Yes, karolyn, we should all start looking for signals from your little green spacemen, right? Let’s see, do they still use morse code??? Wait, that would be too ANCIENT!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        ow about you using your brain a little more and not using those books from your progressive/socialist indoctrination camps (universities)? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        Kate – I really didn’t word my comment properly. What I really mean is that the Bible is not the only source of truth; and when one limits his understanding to just that one book, it is, well, imiting. I have nothing against the Bible; which, btw, is interpreted differently by different people/experts.

        • Kate8

          Karolyn – You well know how Christians feel about the Bible. Would you suggest to your Muslim friends that they read other scriptures? Not if you value your life.

          I remember reading, in some of the writings of the elite, that they would “tweak” some of the words of scripture (Bible) in order to subtly alter the meaning, or concepts, of some of the teachings. No one would be the wiser. It’s true…there are many versions of the Bible, and some vary slightly as to interpretation. Satan will stop at nothing to confuse people. To think that this could not, or would not, happen, is to be naive.

          It is up to every person to be vigilant, and to pursue his higher understanding to the best of his ability (according to his motivation…some are simply too lazy or disinterested, and are happy to blindly follow another’s lead).

          I respect your right to your own journey, as well. But I know you are no more advanced than I, or any other person, because it is not our place to decide that. There is so much confusion and deceit among ideas of God and spiritual issues that, for those who choose to follow the path and doctrine set up by man, it is buyer beware.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        Joe – Do YOU have explanations for all the strange phenomena that have occurred in the world, like the pyramids, crop circles, etc.? If it cannot be disproven, it certainly is possible. There is so much we do not know!

        • http://naver samurai

          I have to agree with you that there are many things we humans do not yet know, but some things we do know. We know the pyramids of Egypt, Mexico, and Central America were built by human beings. The pyramids of Egypt were designed by their engineers and slave labor. The ones of the Aztecs of Mexico and the Mayans of Central America were made using the same methods. True the pyramids of Egypt are more triangular in shape, but they were done with the technology at that time. Crop circles? I’ve read where people just make those things to get attention. Is their life on other planets in The Milky Way? There could be, but until we find out, only God knows this answer for sure. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          do alittle more reading. Te pyramids HAVE been explained, right down to how they were built! It was also proven that two people working with a boardwith ropes attatched coule CREATE those patterns. not saying that it was proven that they WERE created that way, ok?

        • Karolyn

          Joe & samurai – They have NOT all been explained. Watch “Ancient Aliens” on the History Channel. There are recently discovered pyramids in South America with blocks so large not even the biggest craine in existence today could pick them up. What of some of the ancient drawings of strange beings?
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YOG3jMlV4&feature=youtu.be

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – I have to say that I agree with you on this. I have a sense that the universe is teeming with life, and also many dimensions.

            I also have a sense that “going to Heaven” when we die really means “going into the heavens”, to experience an existence in another location or another dimension. We are always “with the Lord” as He is everwhere. But surely there are places where we live in greater awareness of Him. 3D Earth is surely not all there is.

            And even if many planets appear to us to be barren from our 3D vantage point, it could be that they exist on an entirely different frequency, or dimension. We just can’t perceive it.

            samurai – There is no “proof” of how the pyramids were built. There is only speculation. It’s probable that we’ll never understand how it was done. At least not in this lifetime.

            There is a guy in Florida who built something out of large, extremely heavy objects using some kind of levitation. He wanted to prove that it could be done, and he did. If a single man could do it on a smaller scale, just think what a technologically advanced culture could do.

            If you’ve seen the kinds of art created using lasers these days, designs of great beauty and precision…that would be my guess about how the crop circles were done, probably from above, using a giant laser. We know they have them today as weaponry.

            Like everything else, science hasn’t told the common man the truth about much of anything. Many say that science is at least 30 to 40 years ahead of what we’re told. Maybe more. Maybe hundreds of years ahead. Whether it extraterrestrial or not, who knows…but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if beings from other worlds have always been here, and that we are descended from them. Even the Bible refers to gods who mated with humans, producing the Nephilim. How likely is it that angels are also beings from the heavens, some here to help and some to harm.

  • Scott in SC

    Something to think about, my father was a fighter pilot in Vietnam. In the 70′s he was training fighter pilots and I remember one Thanksgiving we had 3 Iranian student pilots for dinner. Why do we keep training and equiping countries militarily only to make them the bad guys we have to then go to war with………….

    • Gayle

      Hi Scott, This is just my opinion. War is business. Especially Viet Nam, there was no reason it had to last as long as it did. We had the man power, equipment, etc to have finished this war a lot sooner. Just like after 9/11, we could have been done but the ones in charge are making too much money to withdraw. While the people making the sacrifice are just collateral damage. WWI and WWII were done and over fairly quickly. But powers that be are in charge and I am afraid if another military action is started especially here it will go on forever.

  • s c

    So long, Baaney Fwank. Good riddance, Baaney. It was bad almost knowing you. You did little or nothing good for America. Probably, you haven’t had a functional conscience for many years.
    May we never see another like you near a center of power. You might consider moving to the far left coast. They’re obligated to take you in and protect you. You’ve proved that ANYONE can get into politics and prosper at the nation’s expense [crime DOES pay, doesn't it, Baaney?].
    You’ve put yourself before America for so long that’s it’s a habit. Pretend that you care all you want, Baaney Fwank. If you didn’t make easy money and have titles and privileges, you wouldn’t have been there.
    I almost pity the people of Taxachusetts. They produced so many patriots for so many years, and then they turned their backs against America and let people like you “pose.” You’ve used and abused, Baaney Fwank. Remember what is said about payback, Baaney. No more pedestals for you. Got a good lawyer and lots of friends? While you’re trying to ignore and forget, America will remember, Baaney Fwank. Disappear, Baaney. Learn Russian or Chinese, and disappear.

  • Palin16

    I am surprised kevin or kevinnc or whatever he calls himself hasn’t posted here yet, after seeing that picture of his idol, Bawney Fwank. After all, kevin only posts on blogs concerning homosexuals. Somehow, I get a feeling he won’t piosting here next week when we finally get to celebrate the incarceration of Rod Blagojevich.

  • Alex Frazier

    I have the best solution to the Iran war issue! Just thought of it.

    We’ll have a public vote. You have to be registered to vote. Those who vote yes can be sent to Iran, along with their sons and husbands. Then those who want the war can go die, or send their sons and husbands to die. The rest of us can stay home and enjoy peace.

    And I insist that they pay for their own supplies out of their military pay. And it needs to be regular pay, not active duty pay, because this is a volunteer mission.

    By the way, you stay until it’s done.

    • Joe H.

      Careful there Alex, your life partner would probably vote yes just to be able to send you!!!

      • Alex Frazier

        “Life partners” are for homosexuals. I’m a man with a normal and natural spouse. It’s a female, and she’s my wife.

        Just wanted to be clear on that.

        • libertytrain

          perhaps he was thinking of the goofy alex, not you of course.

  • Mark Are

    Is this guy supposed to be funny? Love the canned laughter. Ben should either get a real job or join OWS. Because he sure isn’t working.

    • http://naver samurai

      Neither are you, so what’s your point? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Palin16

    2 seconds of looking at that picture of Bawney Fwank was more than I can take. Have you ever seen such a revolting, unprofessional looking Rep in Congress? Ever?? Can’t his cadillac health insurance policy get him some teeth?

    • Joe H.

      Palin16,
      it was told here last nite that bawney fixed them that way so as to not hurt his partner!!!
      The guy Mark are above you is priceless. A non-working SHIRKER telling Ben to get a real job?!?!?!? LOL!!

      • http://naver samurai

        I assume you are talking about his nether regions? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Palin16

          Yeah I did a google on “Barney Frank teeth”…..found quite a few references to “pulled them so it won’t hurt his boyfriend when he, well…uh…you know.” Ewww!

          • Joe H.

            Palin16,
            roger that on the EEEEEWWWWWWWWWW!

          • http://naver samurai

            OMG! Now since you have painted a picture for me, eeeeewwwww! Now that’s sick. I got an idea. Why don’t we have him parachute from a big eyed bird in Guatemala? We all know how the Mexicans are on their southern boarder. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Q. Why is it good to bury progressives.

            A. Because deep down they are reall good people.

          • Kate8

            Come on, you guys, I just had breakfast! :) :)

            Also, samurai, good one!!

          • Palin16

            Q. What do sperm and lawyers have in common?
            A. Only one in 300,000,000 actually becomes a human being.

          • http://naver samurai

            Thank you Kate8. Palin 16, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! You crack me up. Sorry for spoiling your breakfast Kate8. Some of the libs on this site tend to wee wee in my cornflakes and that makes me more aggressive on my responses. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Yes, I’m a teacher at my school. A 20 year highly decorated combat veteran was a shoe in for the job. If Ed wants to know the book I use, it’s called “The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.” I bought it throught the Human Events website.

  • http://msn.com Tim K

    do you won’t too keep your freedom ??
    then go to this Site and take a look see.( americanselect.org ) on the 2012 election You Call The Shots.

  • trish martin

    THIS is shown as your Comment Policy:
    We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

    The very first comment I read by “Mark Dabney” is an example of rather harsh name calling and is certainly less than civil. Then “personalitycrisis” chimes in with a crude rejoinder to a couple who merely stated their opinion accompanied with some “facts” that have been noted on TV, radio and in the printed media. EXACTLY how bad does a comment have to be to prevent it from being posted to this site? Just curious…..

    • http://naver samurai

      Isomeone uses a lot of cuss words or if it is explicit in certain ares, then you would see “offensive words/comment removed.” I’ve had this happen by myself calling someone a moron, but some have been a lot worse. Especially those on the left side. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • libertytrain

      personal liberty is a very delicate balance. What one finds offensive idealistically may be someone elses truth. You can’t delete something simply because you don’t agree with it. It is a very delicate balance of what is offensive to one person, may be perfectly fine to another… I think Mr. Livingston tries to be as balanced as possible compared to other sites that restrict thoughts, however, uncouth, foul words are just not allowed or seemed to be removed if they make it through filters.

  • Serge Renard

    Hi Ben
    Always like your comments!!
    Anothe round of amunition for you,
    read

    ” THE ROOTS OF OBAMA”S RAGE” by Denesh Dsouza

    you will not be disappointed, I promess,
    Serge

  • Ollie Keskinen

    It would be justice if ben crystal lost his job and then his home to wall st bankers. Them just maybe he would realize why thes people are marching. That’s a maybe, as greedy just care about themselves.
    With certain people and entities, I just use lower case.

  • Karolyn

    VERY interesting interview – Jack Abramoff on Lobbying. CBS interview with Lesley Stahl emailed by Dr. Mercola.
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/04/lobbyists-stealing-government.aspx?e_cid=20111204_SNL_Art_1

    • Kate8

      karolyn – I saw that in Mercola’s email, too. I think that most people know this goes on, but choose to ignore it.

      I mean, when you have lawmakers committing these crimes, who’s to stop them? They exempt themselves from the laws they impose on the rest of us…that’s nothing new. There’s no provision for recall of legislators, so what is anyone to do? Money talks louder than any one or any other thing.

      It would be great to outlaw corporate lobbying. But these people are dirty, and they’d just do it all in secret. Besides, they make the laws, and they make them beneficial to themselves.

      It would seem that our government has come to the point where they are virtually untouchable, except for the occasional fall-guy. They just have set thing up to be too good for themselves, which makes them also subject to blackmail. In fact, the dirtier they are, the more power they are given by the PTB, because they are controllable.

      I also read where those who were taken down because of sexual indescretions, like that mayor in NY, Vitter, Weiner and several others…they were involved in conducting investigations into corporate wrongdoing. Of course, he media forgot to mention that part of the story. They ALL do these things, and worse, but as long as they follow the “rules”, they get away with anything.

      Just look at how they’ve covered for Obama. Untouchable, no matter how deep and grievous their crimes.

      • CJM

        Kate8: None of the elected officials, State or Federal, is an “untouchable.” The fact is that not one federal representative or senator has ever been recalled or impeached (and why would they do this to one of their compadres?), but there IS a provision within the US Constitution. The Tenth Amendment states the following: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor
        prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” In other words, the people can exercise their right to recall wayward representatives and senators; the elected body of our government has become complacent and erroneously believes they are somehow above the law. California would do well in serving the entire public of the USA by recalling Pelosi for her indulgence in insider trading (in order to fatten her personal bank account) and hold her accountable for breaking the law. The US Constitution does say that elected officials are NOT above the law, period. When elected officials tell us “No you can’t” we, the people ought to counter with “Yes we can–and will.”

        • Kate8

          CJM – I didn’t literally mean that government officials are above the law. It just seems to work that way. It also takes a bit of a stretch to use the 10th as a provision to recall a Legislator…but that’s just me. I’d like to see someone try. The Constitution seems to have been superceeded by the will of corporatists, these days.
          None of the Constitutional remedies are being honored by government.

          Just look at how Congress has responded to being exposed for their massive corruption across the board (insider trading and all): they pass a bill removing the last protection we had as citizens, in order to insulate themselves completely from US. Mark my words, the next will be gun control/confiscation.

          Yet, we continue to bow down to all of this treason on their part. They have trampled the Constitution and have set themselves up as our masters. They’ve relegated us to little more than livestock.

          I’m on board with the 10th Amendment groups, but I don’t see them really going anywhere. When we the people are stonewalled by the system that was set up to protect us,…well, you tell me what our next move should be.

          I’m all ears.

  • JC

    Since the majority of the thread seems to about Foreign policy and whether or not we should be intervening…
    Here’s what George Washington had to say. Read it carefully and unserstand what he is saying. It’s brilliant.

    “Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct; and can it be, that good policy does not equally enjoin it? It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period, a great nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt that, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost by a steady adherence to it ? Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue ? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices?”

    “In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable, when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.”

    So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

    As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

    Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

    The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

    Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people under an efficient government. the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

    Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?

    It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean,as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

    Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.

    Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing (with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the government to support them) conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary, and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied, as experience and circumstances shall dictate; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that, by such acceptance, it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion, which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard.

    In offering to you, my countrymen, these counsels of an old and affectionate friend, I dare not hope they will make the strong and lasting impression I could wish; that they will control the usual current of the passions, or prevent our nation from running the course which has hitherto marked the destiny of nations. But, if I may even flatter myself that they may be productive of some partial benefit, some occasional good; that they may now and then recur to moderate the fury of party spirit, to warn against the mischiefs of foreign intrigue, to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism; this hope will be a full recompense for the solicitude for your welfare, by which they have been dictated.

    Gee I kind of liked George Washington…
    except for his “kooky” foreign policy! ;)

  • Karolyn

    Are Americans in Line for Gitmo?
    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/12/04-0

  • Kate8

    I can’t remember what this was, but it was a good one!

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29881.htm

  • Kate8

    Not convinced we are all being experimented on in a massive conspiracy of mind control?

    Here’s how it’s done: “The Tavistock Agenda”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ml3IM0esWXM

    • Cheaptrick

      Kate8,
      It is uncanny the level of awareness you display. Most of the masses choose suffocation through tunnel vision, rather than recognize the double edged sword of technology and the sublime instance it has been, and is being presented in. The “Smart” (meter) technology is further proof to what extent the PTB will go, in order to garnish complete control of the masses. It is unconscionable to think that they would give up their health (mental and physical), privacy, and freedoms, under the pretext of saving the grid and reduction of energy consumption. As few of us know, there are alternative technologies available, to accomplish this goal, but with little means of control. An example, the energy contained within “water” alone, by separating it, then stoichiometrically combining the gases, creates a gas that is self-regulating, 80% more efficient, and the only by-product is water. With this and other technologies forbidden to us, we have more than enough energy outside their control, to light, heat and cool the whole world.

      Another anomaly that I’ve noticed taking place, among the many detractors on here and elsewhere, is the non-existence of social engineering, subliminal implants and symbology, all of which I’m certain you are already aware of. No matter how blatant these mind control techniques may appear to us and others, the vast majority through their “normalcy bias/tunnel vision”, refuse to accept the reality of the demonic influences contained within them. A perfect example of the social engineering that is taking place, is there appears to be not one television show that does not embrace homosexuality. Most also do not pick up on the messages/symbols contained within the wide array of media (movies, news, TV shows, advertisement, music, etc.). As I have often said, “the most powerful brain washing and conditioning tool mankind has ever created, is the television. That is why they call them ‘programs’.”

      I am glad you brought to light “The Tavistock Agenda”, another piece of the puzzle that needs to be exposed and incorporated into the puzzle, for people to be able to see the big picture on the wall.
      Because, this and much of the information available to us today, may more than likely disappear tomorrow. Leaving us in the know, with fewer tools to utilize in waking up the masses. May Yahshua continue to open your eyes and ears, and enhance your understanding of all things.

      • Kate8

        Cheaptrick – Yes, I’m aware of all of those things. I have brought them up here from time to time, but am mostly (with rare exception) met with ridicule, or just ignored.

        Yes, the mind-control is pervasive and successful. My family has experienced some of the more devastating aspects of it, with absolutely nowhere to turn for help, or even acknowledgement. We are nothing but lab rats.

        I have refused the installation of a SmartMeter. There is a huge movement against it here, to the point where the PUC and PGE are planning more stealth methods. One is hitting us hard in the pocketbook.

        I have long been interested in free-energy. I know that it exists, and that the PTB don’t want us to have it, and have gone to great lengths to make sure we don’t.

        I’d love to hear more about your situation.

        I look forward to seeing more of your posts.

        • Kate8

          BTW, Now that the homosexual agenda has gained mainstream acceptance, the next move is to legitimize pedophelia. It’s already underway, called “inter-generational sex”. Closely following this is beastiality.

          There is no end to the depths of evil these monsters are determined to take us.

          • Cheaptrick

            Kate8~ Great to see that you’ve recognized to what extent the level of depravity that mankind will descend to. Just like as in the days of, Noah, huh? I was hoping to finish working on my horses stall sooner, so I could check and see if you had responded. Hope you revisit this thread one more time. Lisa, is especially excited to see someone else, primarily, another woman that has a personal relationship with Yahshua and has an extensive understanding concerning the times we live in. She repeatedly had said, “it’s like reading something you would write.” I have to admit, it was kind of eerie reading through all your comments and thinking to myself, that’s almost exactly what I would have said.

            Question for you. Am I correct to assume that you are also familiar with, Cathy O’Brien and her book, “Trance Formation of America?” It was one of the hardest books I have ever read, just couldn’t wrap my brain around all the vile things that were done to her and others. It made me so upset that I ordered 25 copies and gave them to everyone I knew. Her subsequent book, “Access Denied”, just about devastated myself and all the others I had given copies of the first book to. To learn just how demonic, presidents, congressmen, foreign dignitaries and high level officials could be, and yet, have it all shut down and covered up by the Unconstitutional 1947 National Security Act, makes me want to vomit. There are definitive answers in those books alone, that explains why they are getting away with what is occurring in the “District of Criminals” today.

            If you are in agreement, I could create a disposable email that you could contact Lisa and I with. You would probably end up conversing with her more than me, because I feel she is in need of female fellowship, as there are no women around here that think like she does. We look forward to your response.

            Best regards and blessings

          • Kate8

            Cheaptrick – Did you read where the military just repealed their ban on sodomy and beastiality?

            I’ve heard of the author, but haven’t read the books. I’ve read plenty of others with the same theme. Yes, our eyes are being opened, those of us with the desire for the truth at any cost and the courage to face it head on. Most people, by far, don’t want to know about “negative” things, and will can people who expose them “fear mongers”. I say, if you are in denial, you are already in fear. Not being in fear only counts if you face the devil and overcome fear.

            I’m at the point where, after taking a good look at where few dare to go, I now want to purify my mind and heart and abide in the Lord. The evil in the world is but the manifestation of the darkness within each of us, mirroring back to us.

            Yes, I would like to communicate with you and Lisa. I don’t have anyone to talk to, either, with whom I feel really on the same wavelength.

            I keep checking back at intervals.

            Godspeed.

          • Cheaptrick

            Hi Kate8

            Lisa was tickled that you agreed to accept our invitation to communicate further.
            The email address is: wasup2000-truths @yahoo.com
            As soon as I get your email, I will send you further information.
            If we don’t hear from you in a day, come back to this thread and I’ll try to come up with another way to make a connection. This is the first time I’ve used one of these, so I’m not sure if it will work or not. If this thread is closed down, I will try to find you on another one.

            Best regards and blessings

          • Cheaptrick

            Kate8 ~ I wanted to respond to your last post but Lisa had me so distracted with questions, that I forgot.

            No, I didn’t know that about the military, not surprising though.

            “I’m at the point where, after taking a good look at where few dare to go, I now want to purify my mind and heart and abide in the Lord. The evil in the world is but the manifestation of the darkness within each of us, mirroring back to us.”
            This, we found to be so profound, I decided to adopt it into the book I am writing, I hope you don’t mind. We’ll be glad to hear from you and share more of your wisdom.

            Best regards and blessings

  • CUZIN ERN

    I always seem to profit from the words of others, as being a pedler, the most damaging thing one can do when someone else has the floor is to interupt their chain of thought by drowning out what is being presented!!

  • http://emsaravia@aol.com Elba Saravia

    I was delighted that Barney was leaving until I heard Maxine waters is replacing him. Never put a hungry dog in charge of the meat house, didn’t we learn with scumbama and the 400 thousand thieves.

  • http://emsaravia@aol.com Elba Saravia

    Honest, hard working Americans I love and respect you, Your ancestors build this country and thaught you how to built, perfect, respect, grow, create and be the best you can be as our military who is now being degraded as much as we are. we are being defaced for communist purposes. America the great let’s get on our feet again.

  • Palin16

    14 years for Blago! Time to break out the champagne! I’d like to see him share a cell with Mark Chapman.

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