Boston And More Government Lies

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The Saudi Arabian “person of interest” who was hospitalized with serious injuries and then held under guard at a hospital because he was suspected of playing a part in the Boston Marathon bombing is just a college student who happened to be enjoying the annual spectacle.

Two Chechnyan brothers — one a naturalized U.S. citizen — who heretofore were unknown to the U.S. security apparatus, became radicalized for unknown reasons. Using instructions found online, they fabricated bombs using kitchen utensils, hardware junk and fireworks, concealed them in a backpack and duffle bag and detonated them near the finish line of the race.

Days later, after the FBI solicited the help of the public in identifying two men in grainy video images, the two Chechnyan brothers came out of hiding, killed an MIT police officer in cold blood in an effort to steal his sidearm, car jacked an Asian man, drove to a convenience store and robbed it, then engaged in a firefight with police. The two men were armed with a small arsenal of five pipe bombs, an M-4 carbine, two handguns and a BB gun. They planned to kill as many people as they could and then, depending on who is talking, blow up New York or party there, authorities said.

During the early morning hours of Friday, April 19, the two men battled with police, exchanging gunfire and exploding at least one of their bombs. At least 200 rounds were fired by the cops. The suspects fired back 80 or more at police. The older brother, identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was apprehended when he ran toward police while firing his weapon. Tamerlan was on the ground being handcuffed by police when younger brother Dzhokhar — by all accounts of friends a nice and friendly guy who had never expressed jihadist opinions — drove over him in a stolen SUV, dragging the body at least 30 feet before it became disentangled from the vehicle’s undercarriage.

This violent exchange, in which police believe they wounded Dzhokhar, led to a voluntary lockdown of the town of Watertown, part of greater Boston. Residents and business owners were encouraged but not forced to stay inside all of Friday while police, FBI and National Guard troops and equipment scoured the neighborhood for the criminal terrorist. Police tactical units, armed in full SWAT or military gear conducted house-to-house searches, asking people to exit their homes at gunpoint, strongly encouraging them (with threats) to raise their hands (even if they were of different sex, race and age of the known suspect) and be frisked.

The suspect was finally located hiding in a boat in a Watertown backyard by the boat’s owner, who had noticed the tarp covering the boat was loose. Peering beneath the tarp, the homeowner saw the suspect, bleeding and asleep or unconscious, and called police.

Well-armed and fitted with an explosive vest, the suspect posed grave risk to law enforcement. So they surrounded the area, engaged in another firefight with him and finally apprehended him. Having been injured in the throat, the suspect is unable to talk, but he did manage to confess to the plot before being read his Miranda rights by a Boston judge.

As best I can tell, this is the official narrative of the Boston Marathon bombing. It is the story the FBI and the rest of government wants you to believe. Because it’s coming from the FBI and being parroted by the government propaganda machine mainstream media, it must be the truth. The masses have accepted it as such and have now moved on to more important interests like the NBA playoffs, the NFL draft, “American Idol” or some other mindless, inconsequential pursuit.

However, now we — at least those of us who pay attention — know, thanks to Glenn Beck, the Saudi person of interest is not just some innocent bystander after all.

Just hours after the April 15 bombing, Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi was put on a terror watch list and had an event file created that indicated he was armed and dangerous; and actions began that would lead to his deportation. Alharbi, who is related to a number of terrorists now residing in Gitmo and/or listed as part of al-Qaida, was admitted to the United States under a “special advisory opinion,” indicating someone pulled some strings for him. His strings go a long way — all the way to the White House, where Alharbi was a frequent visitor (seven times since 2009). His file contained one prior event, indicating he was already in the terrorism watch list system. Yet even though he’s marked as a terrorist, he was allowed in. Perhaps that explains Michelle Obama’s hospital visit. Alharbi and the Obamas are friends.

After news of his possible deportation leaked, government officials backtracked. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions from a Congressman about Alharbi. An Immigration and Customs Enforcement official told Beck a different Saudi was in custody but not connected to the bombing.

Someone altered Alharbi’s file on April 17 in a way that disassociated him from the bombing, according to Beck, but an original had been printed out and saved. The change happened around the time that first Secretary of State John Kerry and then President Barack Obama met with the Saudi foreign minister — a meeting that wasn’t on Obama’s schedule.

There are photographs on the Internet that purport to show Alharbi with two other Saudis near the bomb site.

If the government will lie about who Alharbi is and whether his is a suspect, what else about the official narrative is a lie?

Despite initial claims by the FBI that included a request to help identify the two men in the video, the Tsarnaev brothers have been known to that agency and the CIA for some time. According to their mother, the FBI interviewed them five years ago. The CIA was warned about Tamerlan by Russian authorities almost two years ago. He was on at least two terrorist watch lists. He was flagged so that his travel outside the U.S. would create an alert. They may have been so well-known to the government security apparatus that they were, in fact, double agents.

If the FBI will lie about knowing who the suspects were, what other portions of the story are false?

Police begin to look pretty incompetent if they are having a shootout involving dozens of police officers and just two suspects if the suspects escape, even if the suspects are armed with several weapons. But now we know that the pair did not have an arsenal, as first reported, but only one Ruger 9 mm handgun.

If police will lie about the weapons the pair had and what happened during the shootout, what else are they lying about?

The doctor who first examined Tamerlan said the suspect was in cardiac arrest when he was brought to the emergency room. The doctor described him as suffering from gunshot wounds and a possible blast injury to the trunk that included thermal burns. No mention was made of injuries sustained from being run over by a car. A witness to the shootout who took photographs out his window said Dzhokhar drove through the police barricade, striking two police cars as he did. He did not mention Tamerlan being run over.

If the police will lie about Tamerlan’s cause of death, what else are they lying about?

Police fired dozens of rounds at the boat in which Dzhokhar was hiding. He came out of the boat with a wound to the throat. The MSM reports it was a wound so serious it may leave him unable to speak. It may have been a suicide attempt, police say. Except, he wasn’t armed. He didn’t have a suicide vest. USA Today says this “undercuts initial accounts that the 19-year-old university student was heavily armed, had shot at police and possibly had an explosive device.” And the wound was small and more like a knife cut or a shrapnel wound, according to one of the SWAT team members who arrested Dzhokhar. And as Robert Wenzel notes, notice the reaction of other SWAT members at about 4:50 on the video as the man speaking describes the cut. Did he deviate from the official narrative?

If police will lie about the weapons Dzhokhar had and the extent of his injuries, how much of the rest of the narrative is a lie?

As Jon Rappoport points out, the government’s bomb narrative is fishy. The piece of metal that was purported to be remains of a pressure cooker bomb shows no evidence of having contained shrapnel. The bomb blast was designed to stay low, indicating a level of sophistication far above reading a how-to article on an al-Qaida website.

Official information about Craft operatives who were seen before the explosions, some of them walking around with radiation detectors, is likewise questionable, not that the MSM and their mindless watchers are questioning it. Runners report seeing bomb-sniffing dogs being used before the event and being told a drill was being conducted. Boston police claim there was no drill. More lies!

The FBI claims it’s looking for other members of the Tsarnaev’s terror cell. Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick insists they acted alone. It can’t be both, but no one outside of alternative media is asking which it is.

The FBI, the CIA and other non-government organizations (NGOs) use patsies to stage terror events. Even Obama mouthpiece The New York Times has outed the FBI for staging terror attacks so it could swoop in at the last minute and “save” Americans from attacks that would not have happened without FBI help. They have long been known to lie to advance their agendas: Aurora, Colo.; Newtown; Waco; Ruby Ridge; Oklahoma City; 9/11; Gulf of Tonkin; USS Liberty — the “official” stories on all these are lies.

Yet the people take what government says as gospel and move on. Normalcy bias, or perhaps psychosis, keeps them asleep and happy and thinking there is a government intending to keep them safe. That way, they’re not distracted from their television shows, their iPads or their sporting events.

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Bob Livingston

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  • vicki

    The OP writes:
    “Runners report seeing bomb-sniffing dogs being used before the event and being told a drill was being conducted.”

    So with all that “security” how come the dogs didn’t detect the IED’s? Or as you said were they lying to us then or are they lying to us now?

    • Flashy

      Ummm..maybe because they were packed in the backpacks and not at the site yet? Ya think ?

      • vicki

        Are you familiar with the meaning of the word “sniffing”?

        • Flashy

          Vicki..let’s say there were bomb sniffing dogs 9which i am not saying there was or wasn’t..i have no idea). Dogs sniff, leave and move to next area. guys with backpacks walk in.

          hmmmm…

          • vicki

            Let’s say we stop wasting taxpayer monies on useless animals.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          He should be, as he has brown stuff on his nose from being up Obama bin Laden’s backside. Here is another example of domestic terrorism by the 5th column.
          http://www.traditionalvalues.us/SPLC_shooter_confession.aspx?pid=hf10nd
          I guess the SPLC are also members of the 5th column. They must also be enemies of the state. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “We have given you a republic, if you can keep it.”
          Benjamin Franklin
          Founding father
          Devout Christian

    • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

      There were videos of bomb sniffing dogs working in Oklahoma City on the morning of the explosion. Individuals saw and took pictures and video of the bomb squad vehicle parked outside of the downtown area.

      A “must watch” movie ‘A Noble Lie – Oklahoma City 1995′.

      As this article on Boston brings out, the FBI, CIA, and a host of other “agencies” have used “patsies” in the past to present a “threat” that then gives said agency the authority to move in and “save” the people. Or, so it seems. Maybe it’s just an operation to condition and induce the people towards a police state.

      October 2012, Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis was arrested trying to blow up a car bomb with a cell phone that the FBI had given him. And filmed him repeatedly trying to push the phony “detonator phone”! Was this a ploy to show the people that they (FBI) only use “inert materials” when operating a Sting?

      Or as in the case of Oklahoma City, was using “real materials with real detonators” orchestrated to provide real fear from real damage the point? It was also very possible that multiple “facilitators” were involved from multiple agencies, without each others awareness. As agents often go “deep undercover” into the territory they are probing. No-one knew the level at which they (FBI, CIA, ATF) were coordinating with each other until the bomb blew! A sting gone bad.

      The American public, and the world at large will never know. Because, True journalism is dead!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      This is possible, but only God knows. Will there be an investigation on the lack of security? Probably not, ergo, we may never know. Here is something showing Hitlery not caring about what happened with terrorist at Benghazi.
      http://www.politichicks.tv/column/4-dead-americans-a-waste-of-time/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “”I love the land that gave me birth; I love the Stars and Stripes. This country is where I intend to live – where I expect to die. To preserve the honor of the national flag…thousands of noble…colored men have fought, bled, and died.”
      Rep. John Lynch
      1875

  • Sematary

    “The people” are not investigative journalists. I certainly am not. And while the intrigue of the Saudi leaves alot of unanswered questions and the fact that the FBI has staged terror attacks or thwarted “staged” terror attacks in the past. What exactly do you expect “the people” to do? Are you expecting a revolution? The best you can hope for is that you get some people thinking – I am always happy to question the truth and motives of the government, but exactly what am I supposed to do with those suspicions. You have raised many valid questions in your article – but no answers – only more questions. So perhaps, rather than berating “the people” for simply accepting the msm version of events, you should do the investigative journalism (as you seem to want someone to do) and get the answers to your questions. Perhaps, if you had answers, instead of just questions, then people would do something besides go back to their television and their sports, etc… but you – yes you, have to give them a compelling reason to do so. If you don’t, then the blame lies with those of you who have the questions but aren’t willing to tackle the work required to get the answers and the ultimate truth of what happened.

    • Nomad

      Arrow down.

    • Nomad

      They do have answers and are requesting the government and media to release the information requested. A bit like the black boxes from 9/11. No we don’t have them. Then and ONLY when the two construction works stepped forward with photos and saying they found them long ago did the government turn red and say, sorry we did find them ALL but we won’t release the audio for the protection of the victims families and the publics sensitivity. I’m open to saying these guys did it, but when our government and media keep keeping video and confessions filed away, that really raises the suspicions. The government has some kind of connection in this one.

      • GALT

        Actually they didn’t and don’t have any of them, because
        there is no way to authenticate the “origin” of the black boxes
        used for that type of aircraft.

        See Black 9/11; Paul Gaffney

    • GALT

      There is a very fine line between marketing the end of the world
      of the world is ( could be, might be, will eventually be )
      coming soon…….and you too can grow rich, wealthy
      and profit from it? ( if you act NOW!!!!! )

      Certain niceties must be observed and since there are no journalists
      involved in the “personal liberty” movement…..and one must present
      the illusion of being as close to the “edge” as possible…….

      For example…..there is an April Surprise…..which either has to
      happen today or tomorrow……..not to mention several “events”
      in the offing…….building up to the “big one” of Dec 23, 2013.

      Meanwhile: Coming soon……

      The Essential FEMA Detention Camp Survival Handbook; 17
      proven Strategies to Survive and Prosper in the New Gulag.

      and

      Doctor, Doctor….Help me…. : How I learned to relax and embrace
      Agenda 21. ( with foreword by Martha Stewart )

      • Mike in MI

        Have you ever tried to track the things to which Galled (Galt) chooses to respond? ‘Tis quite interesting …. as are the types of things with which he responds. Truly devilish.

        • GALT

          No, since I am GALT, tracking myself is not necessary.

  • elmcqueen3

    Amazing…The Gubmnt picked these two guys out of a crowd of thousands..
    Immediately after the bombing…Which leads me to believe the Gubmnt knew they were there…And or why they were there…That they were unknowingly coerced into some kind of “gotcha” operation by the FBI…Which like Operation Fast and Furious…Went down badly!

    • ltfbhh

      One question nobody has asked is why, after their pictures were just released to the entire world, would these guys go out and rob a 7-11 where there is little money to be gotten, but a 100% guarantee that they will be on video surveillance? Anybody with half a brain would have gone into hiding. The absolute LAST thing they would do is rob a convenience store!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Really good question which may never have an answer.

        • Flashy

          Nad..you have no money and need cash. the cops are after you already so your ID is known. You’re desperate. Whatchya gonna do?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            What would you do Flashy? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Sensible to the importance of Christian piety and virtue to the order and happiness of a state, I cannot but earnestly commend to you every measure for their support and encouragement.”
            John Hancock
            Signer of the Declaration on Independence, President of Congress, Revolutionary General, Governor of Massachustts, Devout Christian

          • Mike in MI

            Falashy us – Well, how truly smart can anybody who chooses to be friends of the Obombus’s really be? They were probably acting on orders and carried them out. Face it, they’re jihadists acting in the interests of their “messiah” and gawd.Djoker will “die of minor injuries and natural causes” under intense medical supervision…like Hillary’s Rose Law Firm associates.

    • blueeyesol

      Which is probably one of the reasons their crazy mother is all upset, cause she thought the kids were going to be protected by the government when they offered to do the dirty work for them and didn’t realize the gov was using them as useful idiots and did not protect them but threw them under the bus….just an opinion that fits well with the facts!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why does the media have such easy access to the parents in Russia?

        • Flashy

          What interest does the Russian government have to keep the media away?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Do you have any evidence to support your contentions, or is this pure conjecture?

      • Karolyn

        And now she is not coming here, and the father is too sick to make it. I guess their son will be buried in potters’ field.

        • Angel

          The Mother’s not coming here because she is wanted for a shoplifting spree worth $1600 and she’ll be arrested as soon a she sets foot back on American soil, that’s why she’s not coming!!!

    • stanli

      Mancunian candidate

  • Dirty Daug

    I’d say we will never get to the real truth and why was a known terrorist, a person of interest allowed to visit the White House 7 times. It looks as tho this person of interest was friends with Obama and to save his butt he is being deported. I’d say the original plan was to put the blame on to some home grown American citizens but when there were too many pictures of this not being done by American citizens the FBI and Obama went with these two brothers who more than likely were the ones who planted the bombs or helped the person of interest. Maybe with one dead and the other won’t tell what he knows or he will be dead.

    • buck

      Maybe he’s being deported to save somebody else’s butt. Like obamma’s entire administration…

    • Flashy

      You do realize the ONLY source naming the Saudi a “person of interest’ was the NY Post…owned by FOX. The FBI never had this individual named as a “person of interest”. Have any data other than what is dreamed up by the crazies that this Saudi national was a “known terrorist” or had ties to terrorism? You don’t, nor can you explain why…if such ties were so well known…he wasn’t on any ‘no fly” list.

      The loonies are out today !

      • momo

        Speaking of loonies, flashman, weren’t you hoping it was some white right wing extremist responsible for the bombing?

        • Flashy

          no Momo, wasn’t hoping. But with all the theories coming out when the frenzied investigation was going on, it did seem to be a strong possibility. Weren’t you also thinking it was a possibility?

          • momo

            I don’t like speculating, it gets you in trouble, ask John King of CNN how that goes.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You seem to be preoccupied with FOX and all its’ holdings. It appears that you keep track of them and their stories more so than the majority of the posters. So why are you the loony?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Then why is he being deported? Talk about loonies, you seem to fit right in.

        • Flashy

          Ummm..CB, from all i have heard, he is not being deported. His visa is valid and current. Only Fox reported that rumor. It got picked up by the loony blogs and is now reported by the crazies as fact. Jeesh ….

      • Dirty Daug

        Flashy, you are so wrong, this person of interest has a whole family of Terrorist like his brothers. Check it out

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Here is an article and video showing Americans fear their government more than terrorists. Sheesh! I wonder why?
        http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/americans-fear-government-more-than-terror/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “To the triune God – the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost – be ascribed all honor and dominion, forevermore – Amen.”
        Gunning Bedford
        Founding Father
        Pastor
        Devout Christian

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Some additional questions.
      Why did the two brothers go along with being dupes?
      Why did the Russians become so benevolent, what are they going to get in return for pointing out particular information about the older Boston Bomber?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        The Russians have had problems with the Muslims for over 1300 years.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Yep, in Central Asia, the Turks, and the Ottoman Empire. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “I flatter myself you will be what I wish, but don’t be so much flatterer as to relax of your application – don’t forget to be a Christian. I have said much to you on this head, and I hope an indelible impression is made.”
          Jacob Broom
          Letter to his son attending Princeton University
          Signer of the Constitution
          Devout Christian

          • Ron r

            Samurai people like you are quick to use Christianity to justify you hate red of others. You go to church on Sunday only to forget all you learned on Monday . So full of Christ, so drunk on hate

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Rant, rant, rant. Where do you see any hate in my post? All I did was tell some historical facts and that is hate? I suggest that you look in the mirror on that comment. In fact, come here to Elkhart and go to the Michiana Korean Presbyterian Church. I guarantee you will be a changed man after that. Of course Sook Young would have to translate as our pastor speaks little or no English. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”
            Daniel Webster
            Devout Christian

          • Angel

            NO ONE CARES WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT, BUT AS YOU HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BELIEVE AND SAY IT, WE HAVE THE EQUAL RIGHT TO BELIEVE AND SAY IT AS WELL—SEEMS YOU LIBERALS ONLY TOLERATE YOUR SIDE OF THE AGRUMENT AND GET PISSED OFF WHEN WE EXERCISE AN OPPOSING VIEW—TOUGH SHYT!!!
            FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS GREAT ISN’T IT?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Here is something that proves Obama bin Laden is not a Christian, but a muslim and a liar.
            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/04/obama-im-not-the-strapping-young-muslim-socialist-that-i-used-to-be/
            But alas! We have know this since 2008. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Ron r out.
            “Would to heaven we had a navy able to reform those enemies to mankind or to crush them into non-existence.”
            George Washington
            In reference to the muslim pirates of North Africa.

          • Angel

            Oh Ron shove your Hate crap up your giggy,…hate hate hate, when you guys have nothing else to offer in a conversation, you always end it spewing ‘us miserable Christians”__geez

  • angelkisz

    And why did they mirandize him so fast and not as a enemy combatant and take away his citizenship ?

    • Toy Pupanbai

      I thought Miranda went out the window when the Patriot Act, etc., came in?

    • Flashy

      The Court arraignment had him labeled as a charged criminal…and his Right to lawyer up was established. They went 36 hours before Mirandizing him.

      he should be allowed his Rights, and trial in a civilian court held. he is charged for criminal acts. Why should we create a martyr situation for any terrorist? read them their rights, have a public and open trial allowing confrontation of accusers and evidence, and if found guilty, toss his butt in jail.

      They military trials as an ‘enemy combatant’ are a way to circumvent our rights….only involving the military personnel should they be held.

  • Red55bird

    I bet my farm that Barack Obama is in this knee deep in crap, Glenn needs our help to get this information out to the citizens, we all ready know, but many don’t know. Barack Obama has lied from day one, and has cover up more lies then all the Presidents put together.

    • $29890281

      7 days in May, where are you?

      • GALT

        Only Knebel and Bailey know.

        Written with Charles W. Bailey 2d, “Seven Days” (Harper & Row, 1962) led American book sales for nearly a year. In 1964 the story was made into a major movie of the same title, starring Burt Lancaster, Fredric March and Kirk Douglas.

        Mr. Knebel said he got the idea for the book while interviewing Gen. Curtis LeMay, onetime Air Force Chief of Staff, who went off the record to accuse President Kennedy of cowardice in his handling of the Bay of Pigs crisis.

        The themes of his later books included a mentally ill President, political repression in Central America and black militancy in the United States.

        Born in Dayton, Ohio, Mr. Knebel grew up in Oak Park, Ill., and Yonkers.

        • figmo

          Lemay was right, Kennedy was a coward as well as an incompetent for pulling off the air cover at the last second and leaving the pro freedom Cubans standing unprotected on the beach to be captured and imprisoned in castro’s dungeons for years of hell. But what can you expect from a little boy trying to do a man’s job? He was good at letting the little head run the big head though and he was good hat leaving the keys to launch the missles in some unknown’s custody while he went off for a tryst provided by his main pimp, Peter Lawford.

        • $29890281

          Unfortunately in the movie Lancaster as the General, was not the hero… instead made into an un-American no doubt by director Frankenheimer, in a misguided liberal attempt to equate a free system that used to work with that that has been corrupted and stolen, like today where we have a “president” who is not, a constitution that is ignored, and (other) traitors in government. That’s why we need something or someone to put the country back to where it was and what was intended.

          • GALT

            The “constitution” is not being ignored and I doubt that
            YOU have any “idea” what was “intended”.

            http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman4.htm

            “He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls
            the past, controls the future.”

          • FreedomFighter

            Gods law is supreme. The constitution is being trashed by a Manchurian candidate and his satanistic cohorts in congress and corporate entities.

            You are a tare, a fool tool of evil. Crawl back under whatever slimy pit of vipers you came forth from.

            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

          • GALT

            Must be a source of great irritation for you that your mythical
            enforcer seems to be “absent”……pray harder.

          • FreedomFighter

            The evil ones are usually blinded to GOD and his works, and yes I will pray harder for you and all those others that are in need of it.

            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

          • GALT

            The incompetence has been duly noted.

            Only the blind would mistake “absolute power” and the tyranny it
            represents as some form of twisted and delusional choice…..
            “obey or else” is not a choice.

          • FreedomFighter

            Don’t walk over that cliff GALT you are blind and cannot see the drop, or you will fall to your death on the rocks below.
            Obey or else. Your choice really.
            Laus Deo
            Semper FI

          • FreedomFighter

            A little something for you Galt:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm34aGogGd0

          • GALT

            Not their best stuff….besides I like gospel music,
            Sister Act, Pitch Perfect….Bethoven’s Ninth, Handel
            and many other’s…….as well as many “real christians”…
            you know any of those?

            You know, the one’s that do “good things” and actually try to help people?

          • GALT

            Imaginary gods, imaginary cliffs, imaginary rocks,
            imaginary death…….I am here, this is now…..

            What are YOU going to DO about it?

          • Charlie

            GALT,,,
            You do have some faults ,,,most of your faults are called “Sins”, according to The Holy Bible… You cannot explain how a simple tree grows into a bigger and older tree,,, YET,,,You are telling us that The Almighty God and His Son King Jesus Christ are imaginary gods… You are a educated “Nitwit”,,,yet a babeling fool regarding The Holy Bible of The Almighty God… What is The Bible meaning of your write, “I am here, this is now…”??? We can explain it, can you it, per The Bible???
            Charlie Freedom

          • Angel

            …it may be only then he will call on the name of God to save him….

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sook Young and I will also. Now GALT has a team or squad praying for him. Here is an article showing your “messiah” was illegally on the ballots in Indiana.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/10583/obama-illegally-on-2008-indiana-primary-ballots/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “”When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say,’Your child belongs to us already. What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
            Adolf Hitler
            November 06, 1933
            *Why does this sound like the thinking of the 5th column?

          • Ron r

            I’m from Indiana and you information is bull. Again,why do you use a name that is associated with so much loss of life. A code for idiots who were beaten do badly by the U.s.Infantry?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually it isn’t. They had people from South Bend, who testified in court, that their signatures were forged. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Next, the last battle of the Samurai was in 1876 – 1877, where they were defeated by the Army of Japan, so where did our boys come into play, hmmm? WWII, there were no more Samurai. You always talk about the name I was given by LTC Constanguay at Fort Carson, Colorado. He thought I fought like a Samurai and so gave me the name. Where in Indiana are you from? If you are lying, I’ll know. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Respect you country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”
            Samuel Clemons

          • Angel

            Yep, we must pray for our enemies first.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            It also says, “The fool hath said there is no God within his own heart” (Psalms 14:1 and Psalms 53:1), so what’s your point? If you wish to say less intelligent things about the Almighty, then you go against what our Christian founding fathers believed, the Bible, and everything that helped to shape this country as a Christian nation. Don’t start any holy wars here, GALT. Your kind always lose. Here is an article and video showing the Bush was right about WMD’s.
            http://www.conservativebyte.com/2013/04/bush-was-right-there-were-wmds/
            Looks like all the people who said Bush lied, now have massive amounts of egg on their faces. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Everything for the State; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State.”
            Benito Mussolini

          • GALT

            Wow you have an “article” and a “video”…..?????

            And you quote Mussolini and Hitler…..and you believe that
            some how being left out of your little “patriot” clique
            will cause me distress?

            Your mythical founders were smugglers, slaveholders,
            alcoholic, greedy elitists…..whose idea of freedom
            was limited to white men of property…….and they would have happily given you a musket for promises to be
            reneged on later……..seems you would have been just
            as much of a “sucker” back then, as you are now.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That’s your opinion and you have a right to it, though it is wrong and shows you know little about our Christian founding and Christian founding fathers. You said he owned slaves? Does that make him any less of a founding father? Many of our founding fathers that owned slaves gave them up after we were established a free nation. Washington is an example of this. Being left out of my little patriot clique? I can care less. People like you are what is causing this country to rot from the inside out. Here is an article about an American patriot that the government doesn’t want to return.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/04/unclaimed-vietnam-veteran-tells-story-in-new-film-after-being-left-behind-for-44-years/
            Now this is what will happen to more of our veterans, if Obama bin Laden has his way. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “To God and posterity you are accountable for your rights and your rulers. Let not your children have reason to curse you for giving up those rights and prostrating those institutions which your fathers delivered to you.”
            Mathias Burnett
            Founding father
            Pastor
            Devout Christian

          • GALT

            Actually, they are FACTS….no entitlement required.

            Name the ones that gave them up? And Washington was NOT an example. Dead people don’t give things up. They have no further use for them and “no control” over the out come of what happens to them.

            If opposing the constitution doesn’t make you “less of a founding father” what does?

            Signing a document that says all men are created equal while owning slaves and continuing to own them?
            Makes you a hypocrite for sure……

            Founding father? Not so much, but then who knows what the qualifications are…….their behavior, habits, attitudes and prejudices are listed above…..yet
            these FACTS seem to disturb you? And there are
            still plenty of those types of people available in this
            nation……..that is the corrupting “rot” you smell dear,
            but as noted……..you know so very little.

            Finally; The proper expression is that “you couldn’t care less.”

          • jimbodc1

            You reap the benefits of our country but you are so quick to trash it. Why don’t you try Libia or North Korea?

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy,

            “Mathias Burnett-Founding father-Pastor-Devout Christian”

            Mr. Burnett seems to be absent as a founding father, he was in fact a pastor. Are we missing something or this another space- alien issue?

            http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_founding_fathers.html
            http://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-founding-fathers/about-the-founding-fathers/
            and your favorite, Wikipedia:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

          • jimbodc1

            Galt is an idiot, no other way to say it…

          • Adolf Schmidt

            If your looking for lightening bolts from heaven, you may be disappointed. God gave freewill to all, the bad and the good. Our choices, in this life, dictate our eternal existence. If everyone was to follow the guideline for man in the new testament, whether christian or not, the world would be a better place.The Lord is not absent, just too many people have turned their backs on him.

          • $29890281

            Ah, it’s you again GALT. As a socialist and apparent admirer of George Orwell, besides being an atheist. However I have no intention of answering your attempt to deceive.

          • GALT

            PLF to you dear…….and I don’t believe I asked a question,
            of course if the information I provided about the fictional book
            and movie and author’s of same is inaccurate by all means
            feel free to correct it.

            I should also remind you that “atheism” as previously noted
            is far too WEAK a position……..as it is somewhat limited and
            there quite a few other metaphysical systems which must
            also be dealt with……..

    • Flashy

      You have a farm? Best find the deed to sign over…i’ll take that bet.

    • GALT

      NO THIRD TERM!!!!!!!!

      Betting the Farm?

      Food prices are soaring, but many farmers are going broke. How can this be? Well, apparently there are spot prices (what farmers get) and futures prices (what the banks and bankers get).

      The UN’s World Food Programme exists to help feed hungry people around the world, and Bill Gates, one of our richest solutionaries, has contributed millions of dollars to their Purchase for Progress plan (that allows smallholders to participate in commodities markets), but people are hungrier than ever. How can this be? In one of the liveliest sections of the book Kaufman takes on Gates in a UN press conference and describes a red-faced and scowling Gates defending his support of the program. It looks like a victory for Kaufman for a second, but then the reader remembers that millions are still starving. I was despondent and I am guessing you will be too.

      http://civileats.com/2013/01/18/book-review-bet-the-farm-by-frederick-kaufman/

    • Ron r

      Glenn Beck needs to be instutionalized along with anyone who hangs their hat on his nonsense. If only together we could sign him into some place where we could be safe from him.

  • Ron r

    Glenn Beck,you use this moron as a source ? Glenn Beck. Bob way it ain’t so. Fits yor and Becks (Elmer gentry ) Muslim president crap.

    • hippybiker

      Learn how to sell, and put together a sentence.

      • alex.frazier@charter.net

        There’s nothing quite like telling someone to learn how to spell while misspelling the word spell in the rebuke. It’s much like criticizing their ability to put a sentence together while incorrectly using a comma with a conjunction in a clause that has no subject.
        You should keep your criticisms to points of substance rather than nit-picking petty nonsense.

        • Right Brain Thinker

          LOL You nailed it, Alex!

          • Bob666

            Yes, that was rather funny!

          • Barack Embalmer

            Lame Brain Thinker – Is poor spelling all you can come up with? Go get drunk on Kool-aid with Ron r and please dont mix it with your meds!

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Ron r,

      Thank you for yet another cogent response. I can always count on you to use your experience as debate team captain to keep me on my toes.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Uh, Bob? Now that you’ve evaded the issue, would you care to address your denial of the well-known fact that Glenn Beck IS a moron and it IS laughable that you would use him as a source??

        • Charlie

          RBT,,,
          Glenn Beck is a Mormon ,,,not ,,,a moron,,,there is a big difference …………………

    • monizame

      Ron,what makes you an expert on glen Beck?? did your main stream media tell you so?? F you.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It appears that that Ron r was told to keep track of Glenn Beck and ridicule him at every turn. If Glenn Beck is worthless why keep drawing attention to him unless he has become a thorn in the side of the Dems/Progs/Leftists.

        • Right Brain Thinker

          Nadzi dearest,

          Media Matters kept such good track of Glenn Beck that Ron didn’t need to bother. They exposed him for the deluded moron he is. That’s why he lost all those advertisers and ended up getting dumped by Faux News.

          And some of Jon Stewart’s best bits ever were his parodies of Glenn Beck. Some of the funniest things ever seen on TV. If you had a sense of humor, irony, or hypocrisy, you might find them funny too.

          Beck is not a “thorn” in anyone’s side He is an object lesson in how NOT to pretend you have intelligence.

    • Barack Embalmer

      Ron r- Your getting drunk on your Kool-aid you shouldnt mix it with your meds.

  • Traphill25

    The commies have taken over the government!! Revolution is the only chance save America!! Total corruption in DC!!

    • Larry Christopher

      Amen to that! The LIBS had their law-breaking OCCUPY WALL STREET movement. WE THE PEOPLE need to start our own OCCUPY PENNSYLVANIA MOVEMENT and not go away until answers to all of our questions are given…impeachment proceedings started…and Obamacare is repealed!

      • podunk1

        You’re right on… we need to shut them down, & prosecute every liar, beginning with Holder & Nappy. We need to change our agenda from “In crud we trust” to “In God we trust”.

    • $29890281

      7 days in May, where are you?

      • FreedomFighter

        Yes, the satanic and communist celebration periods, not a coincidence they are the same time K. Marx rewrote the Illuminati manifesto and called it the communist manifesto.
        For the Satanist a blood sacrifice is called for, a war, a bombing, death of innocents is best, will the communist facilitate it?
        WAR?
        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

    • truesoy

      Trap;
      ..please, if I could, may I suggest you take your medication?.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Why don’t you take yours and move on? Never any facts, go to the personal attack. Here is an article showing how the son of Osama bin Laden is a person of interest in the Boston Bombings.
        http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/04/news-source-says-saudi-person-of-interest-is-osama-bin-ladens-son/
        You and your ilk need to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “I do not consider atheists to be citizens, nor do I consider them patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”
        George H. W. Bush
        41st U. S. President

        • Angel

          samurai, i just said to the old man, after reading your post, that I thought I heard several days ago. that another person of interest in the Boston bombing was Osama’s son, but as quickly as it was mentioned it was gone.

          • Angel

            sam, angel as in, angelwannabe!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Long time, no see! It’s good to hear from you. Sook Young and I was wondering what happened to you. Many of the patriots that were on this site have gone, Joe H., Kansas Bright, RW Nut, and many others. I haven’t seen Libertytrain for awhile. We hope she is OK. Unfortunately, the number of 5th columners have increased on this site and are stinking it up badly. Here is another video giving more details about a foreign connection.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/likely-foreign-connections-in-boston-bombing/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The Bible is no mere book, but a Living Creature, with a power that conquers all who oppose it.”
            Napoleon Bonaparte

          • truesoy

            samurai,

            …and just in case you don’t know, and apparently you don’t know, but, Napoleon lost big time!.

            Sincerely,

            Truesoy

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, he lost, was imprisoned, returned, lost again, then exiled. In fact here is somthing that will tell you more than you seem to know. But alas! You knowledge of our history is very lacking, so is your knowledge on world history.
            http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Bonaparte
            BTW, Napoleon was a deist. See what happens when you have people that are not Christians at the helm of a country, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion (Christianity). Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious (Christian) principle.”
            George Washington
            1st U. S. President
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            Devout Episcipalian

          • Bob666

            Oh poor revisionist Sammy,

            George Washington
            1st U. S. President
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            “Devout Episcipalian”
            Still waiting on that source?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is one I found for you Bob.
            http://www.christiananswers.net/q-wall/wall-g011.html
            Don’t forget to look at the list of references on the source. They’re pretty well written books and articles. Here is one fron the National Center for Constitutional Studies.
            http://www.nccs.net/newsletter/may03nl.html
            I hope these are good enough. If not, I’ll try to find more when I have time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount contain my religion.”
            John Adams
            2nd U.S. President
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Sammy,
            First one did not work, I have bookmarked the 2nd and will review.
            Thanks

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No problem. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          • Angel

            you too samurai, tell sook hello from angelwannabe_-as far as the fifth columners go, the more the truth comes out the louder they get, its the same old same old, tactics are the same and the same old rhetoric, no facts just attacks__world history shows they always fall in the end__take care

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thanks. You and yours also take care. Here is finally a good idea from Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.thehill.com/video/administration/296915obama-at-100-days-presser-maybe-i-should-just-pack-up-and-go-home
            This would be the best thing he could ever do for our country. Also, they have ruled in federal court that Obama bin Laden was illegally on the Indiana ballot in 2008. Maybe moe states can investigate this.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-2008-ballot?cat_org=politics
            The tide is turning more to the side of God fearing
            patriots.. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves falsesoy out.
            “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotismwho should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness – these finest props of the duties of men and citizens.”
            George Washington
            1st U.S. President
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            Devout Episcipalian

          • Angel

            Samurai__I saw that about Bam Bam in Indiana, but will the authorities hold his feet to the fire__He’s gotten out of every thing else he’s done so far

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            We’ll see. Anythings possible. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Whatever strikes at the root of Christianity leads manifestly to the dissolution of civil government.”
            SCOTUS Case
            People vs. Ruggles 1811
            *They were right them and it is still right today.

        • truesoy

          samurai,

          Since when have facts been relevant to you or the likes of you?. However I can say for certain that, and as long as I’ve been reading your diatribe it is the case that the only ‘facts’ that matters to you are the ‘facts that support your ‘facts’ regardless of the truth.
          We all are presumed to be normal and sane until proven otherwise, but in your case that little touch of craziness as evident by the contents of your writings should be of concern to those around you still sane enough to tell the difference.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

  • Traphill25

    Obama is a terrorists!! He is planning the take over and destruction of America!!

    • $29890281

      7 days in May, where are you

      • $43503834

        What are you talking about–7 days in May???

        • GALT

          Read the book. See the movie. Collect the bubble gum cards.

        • GALT

          Seven Days in May1964 NR 118 minutes

          Military aide Martin Casey stumbles across a plot by his boss to overthrow the U.S. president, who has just negotiated a controversial peace treaty. Casey’s dilemma: Follow orders and remain silent, or betray his boss.

          Cast:Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas, Fredric March, Ava Gardner,Edmond O’Brien, Martin Balsam, Leonard Nimoy, Hugh Marlowe, Andrew Duggan, Whit Bissell, Helen Kleeb,Richard Anderson

          • Jeff

            I didn’t realize Leonard Nimoy was in it. Now I’ll have to go see it. A young Spock without the ears.
            Wow, I knew these guys were nuts, but this article seems to have unchained them. FF, usually about 75% nuts, is in full Captain Queeg personna today.

        • Flashy

          It’s a movie starring Burt Lancaster and Kirk Douglas where the military attempted a coup. The crazies are loose today !

        • $29890281

          By now you know what, after a few replies. As far as “crazies” as Flashy posts, if I understand Flashys meaning, he must think America still works like it was founded and intended. Good and working constitution (instead of being ignored and corrupted), a legal president (instead of a Muslim pretender illegal alien), and faithful, patriotic politicians in Washington (instead of traitors).

          The movie was really about an attempt to fix a broken country we live in today run by fools and traitors. Unfortunately the hero in the movie who tried to restore the country was made to look like the traitor, by Hollywood again. What would you expect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_in_May

          Yes, see the movie and judge for yourself, keeping in mind how the United States of America has “changed”.

          How’s that change working for you?

  • usmcwarrior

    You guys have got to take the tin hats off. While this administration is guilty of much, suggesting thousands if LEO’s conspired to kill Americans and safeguard a Saudi terrorist is beyond the pale. I know LEO’s in all agencies and many involved in this investigation. They are all hard working, conservative, constitutionally minded, red blooded Americans before anything else. Suggesting they all conspires against the US series logic, reason, good common sense and is just plain vile. There was no bomb drill. The two Islamic “soldiers” who planted those bombs are indeed the center of focus. As the investigation continues, more will likely be implicated. As for rough handling during the hunt, talk to folks in Watertown and surrounding communities – not showmen thousands of miles away.

    • Nomad

      I’m sure the LEOs weren’t part of this. When this happens you need as many involved to believe its really happening so their actions are true. Most people aren’t natural liars. The Pres, politicians, FBI and CIA leaders are a different story. Understand. And yes, there was a drill and this has been proven without a shadow of a doubt via video, confessions, and active scenario.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Actually you don’t know all LEOs in all agencies. you are not that “All Knowing”.

  • Dragon 1

    I guess all those people that listen to those lies are just really sheep and really don’t want to know the truth.. .Ever since Obamma took office from the 1st to the 2nd time we have been going from one problem to the next problem. Hope LIES and NO Change. This is also a tactic to keep everyone off gaurd so that the goverment can do other things under the radar. I never did believe that (Offical Account) as I know that Washington lies to the public on a regular basis. We have toooo much goverment now, try not to listen to the lies and learn to read between the lines and then you will see the truth !! I have NO use for Obamma or his adminstration they are corrupt and will lie & lie & lie. One day soon all those lies will catch up to them and the American people will be better off for it, especially when the PEOPLE in the White House are out of office. I hope it comes soon, but until then I wiil still give the polititicans the finger everytime I hear another LIE out of their crocked mouths. History will remember that Obamma was a fake and a big lier, about everything in his time in office.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is an example of domestic terrorism.
      http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/10559/conservative-organization-attacked-because-splc-listed-it-as-a-hate-group/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “A patriot must be a religious man.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd U. S. President
      Orthodox Christian

    • Mike in MI

      Dragon 1 – Well-l-l, what do you expect out of devilish demoncrats? Love, peace, honor, goodness and light? Keep ‘em locked and alluded to.

  • dan

    Excellent report…….
    This bears mentioning:
    1.Anonymous had bin Laden’s surviving son ID’d days before Beck (facial rec)

    2.The first bomb was a false flag/drill perhaps to draw attention from the real act of terrorism…the second was a surprise and caused the real/actual injuries.The media is complicit in the obfuscation ,as is the FBI ,relax it’s only a drill Homeland Stazi and/or never let a tragedy go to waste/gun grabbing Constitution shredding Barry (just look at the decrees he signed before the smoke cleared)

  • Warrior

    Pretty amazing. Got this plot figured out faster than learning that the “video” story was “fake”. Anyone remember who that fella was in Libya?

  • Right Brain Thinker

    “Aurora, Colo.; Newtown; Waco; Ruby Ridge; Oklahoma City; 9/11; Gulf of Tonkin; USS Liberty — the “official” stories on all these are lies”. Good one, Bob—-going all the way back to 1967 to look for conspiracies. Why didn’t you do it right and go back to Pearl Harbor? That was a big one. No matter, you’ve got the “conspiracy birds” all flapping their wings nicely here and should get lots of visits..

    And a slight rewording to better reflect truth—–“A paranoia bordering on Psychosis keeps them thinking that there is a government intending to do them harm. That way they’re distracted from thinking about the real enemies of the country”.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Right Brain Thinker,

      You write: “Good one, Bob—-going all the way back to 1967 to look for conspiracies.” Argument to ridicule is not a rebuttal.

      You write: ” Why didn’t you do it right and go back to Pearl Harbor? That was a big one.” Yes it was, and I’ve discussed it before.

      You write: “A paranoia bordering on Psychosis keeps them thinking that there is a
      government intending to do them harm. That way they’re distracted from
      thinking about the real enemies of the country”. More logical fallacy, which is not a rebuttal or refutation of the facts offered.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Flashy

      RBT….after reading Mr. Livingston’s attempts to deflect the criticism of the sources for today’s article and the posts coming through, I’m chalking this one up to time to sit back and laugh at the various comments being tossed about.

      Our time today is better spent coordinating the secret FEMA Camp Plans (aka FCPs) for use just before the 2016 elections.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yes, Bob IS trying hard, isn’t he? And he talks about “facts offered”, no less. LOL Yes, this one is full of laughs and much looniness in the comments. Move over on the couch and pass the Cheetos.

        You can deal with the FEMA camps, I’ll concentrate on getting the automobiles out of the FEMA railcars so they can be used to transport the detainees.

        • Flashy

          RBT … Who’s in charge organizing the UN troops as they land in the Black helicopters? i lost that page of the book…

          • Bob666

            Guys, who will be distributing the bazillion bullets that were purchased and put on the GOP’s AMEX card?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually it was the DHS that has made a large purchase of ammunition, not the GOP. Neeeeed to get your facts straight and make that popping sound before you post. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “We have this day restored the Sovereign to whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His kingdom come.”
            Samuel Adams
            Founding Father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy knee-jerk 1966,
            in your quest to always be right, perhaps you have lost the ability to recognize humor? That would be three guys who don’t know each other seeing the opportunity to mock paranoid people on this site who read crap from questionable sources and run with the delusion that FEMA camps are being set up for guys like you after Obama grabs your gun.

            Get help and I am still waiting on multiple sources about all of these devout Christians? I stumbled across this at your favorite site Wikipedia:
            Religion

            Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and two were Roman Catholics (D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons). Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.

            A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[19][20][21] (who created the so-called “Jefferson Bible”) and Benjamin Franklin.[22] Others (most notably Thomas Paine) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[23]

            Historian Gregg L. Frazer argues that the leading Founders (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington) were neither Christians nor Deists, but rather supporters of a hybrid “theistic rationalism”.[24]

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

            I guess the good news is; none of them were space aliens? What is it like to be so consistently wrong?

            Appleton, Sir Edward Victor
            English physicist. Nobel prize for physics 1947.
            Isaac Newton Lodge, No. 859, Cambridge.

          • Charlie

            YO YO,,,
            Did you lose your yo yo ? are you going straight ? ha ha ha ha ……………………….

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Conspiracy birds, conspiracy theories/theoristsR B T, so that is the new phrase or its variations that you were told to use today.

      • Bob666

        Yo Nads,
        Care to elaborate on who tells RBT what to say or is this another passive -aggressive outburst?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      R B T, you are implying that you know about “the real enemies of the country” and you are bursting at the seams to tell us.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Nope. Have told you and the other WIFI’s many times and you never listen. Go find out for yourself.

  • Brad Stockinger

    There are photos of Blackwater guys at the bombing area before the explosions. Why isn’t anything said about that??

    • GALT

      Xe…… guys? ( blackwater no longer exists )

      • monizame

        think again fool!!

        • GALT

          In February 2009, Blackwater changed its name to “Xe,” (pronounced like the letter “Z”), as part of a “rebranding” effort aimed at helping the company distance itself from negative incidents such as a September 2007 shooting in Nisoor Square in Baghdad, Iraq that killed at least a dozen civilians.[55] The company says its latest name change is meant to reflect a new focus. Blackwater / Xe spokesperson Anne Tyrrell said, “We’ve taken the company to a place where it is no longer accurately described as Blackwater.” Its subsidiaries also have new names: Blackwater Airships is now Guardian Flight Systems, Blackwater Target Systems is GSD Manufacturing, and Blackwater Lodge and Training Center is the U.S. Training Center. The company also shed its bear-paw and crosshairs logo, for a stylized rendering of the name “Xe.” The new head of Blackwater / Xe, Gary Jackson, told employees, “Xe will be a one-stop shopping source for world class services in the fields of security, stability, aviation, training and logistics.” [56] However, in June 2010, Xe announced it would be pursuing a sale in part because rebranding efforts failed to change opinions of the company, most critically inside government, which is its main customer [5].

          • jmprint

            You make reading this sight enjoyable. Thank you. We all know fear SELLS, and there are a lot of buyers here!

          • GALT

            That’s the funny part……they buy the line of b.s…..
            whether they actually BUY ( purchase ) the stuff is doubtful……

            Gotta admit though, Bob’s got ALL THE BASES COVERED

            As Mrs. Louis the XVI advised: “Let’em eat KUDOS.”

            Rumor has it they’re not as hard on your teeth as gold coins or
            bars……..

        • ARETHEYNUTS

          Black water changed its name to XE. Had a boyfriend who worked for them

  • DavidL

    Glenn Beck as your source? Beck is a blowhard. Heck, he’s even too dumb for Fox, and that’s really saying something.

  • Flashy

    Weeeeee….ya knew the “conspiracy” theorists would come out on this one. The only question being..why did it take so long? Glenn beck as a source of rational factual information? Puleeze …

    take for instance, this ‘visit’ to a Saudi national. The ONLY source which stated he was a “person of interest” was the ….NY Post. A Fox McNews owned paper and well known for it’s ….ummmm….National Enquirer theme. That’s it. that is the only one, FBI included, who said the Saudi national was a “person of interest”. Yet, note how this is now “fact’ according to this article today. And the President and his wife visit injured at a hospital after the bombing? Perish the thought … that was a cover. they really wanted to see this Saudi national. uh huh …

    Laughable. Pure and simple laughable.

    Fear, anger, ignornace..and take your money …

    Laughable

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Flashy,

      You write: “Weeeeee….ya knew the “conspiracy” theorists would come out on this one. The only question being..why did it take so long? Glenn beck as a
      source of rational factual information? Puleeze …” Argument to ridicule and red herring.

      You write: “The ONLY source which stated he was a “person of interest” was the ….NY Post.” Untrue.
      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57579774/fbi-boston-pd-very-interested-in-saudi-person-of-interest/
      http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/police_saudi_national_not_person_of_interest

      You write: “Laughable. Pure and simple laughable.” Argument to ridicule.

      You write: “Fear, anger, ignornace..and take your money …” Red herring. None of this is a rebuttal of the points made.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston….the NY Post write the Saudi national was a “person of interest’. The FBI NEVER stated such (if you can locate a direct quote from the FBI I will retract this claim). It is well documented that in the flurry of rabid newshounds looking for information…unprepared and wanting to get in the lead caused the media to pick up the Post claims and report it as fact.

        As for the remainder of your reply…I understand your desires to defend the indefensible.

        Best wishes

        Flashy

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          You write: “The FBI NEVER stated such (if you can locate a direct quote from the FBI I will retract this claim).” From the Boston Herald, “Federal authorities ‘are telling us he’s no longer a person of interest,’ said Revere police Lt. Amy O’Hara,” indicating Federal authorities at first did so.

          From ABC, “ABC News can confirm that one of the people law enforcement officials are talking to is a 20-year-old Saudi national at a Boston hospital. Sources tell ABC News that he is here legally on a student visa and that his visa is clean with no apparent criminal history… 1:30 a.m. ET: Teams of federal and local law enforcement agents searched an apparently vacant fifth floor apartment on Ocean Avenue in the Boston suburb of Revere just hours after a pair of bombings at the Boston Marathon, residents told ABC News. 12:47 a.m. ET: Sources tell ABC News authorities are looking for any friends and associates of the 20-year-old Saudi national.” http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/live-updates-boston-marathon-explosion/

          You write: “As for the remainder of your reply…I understand your desires to defend the indefensible.” Again, non responsive.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Dave

            “person of interest” has no legal definition, but generally refers to someone law enforcement authorities would like to speak with or investigate further in connection with a crime. It may be used, rather than calling the person a suspect, when they don’t want their prime suspect to know they’re watching him closely. Critics complain that the term has become a method for law enforcement officers to draw attention to individuals without formally accusing them.
            Your like said “authorities” and did not spell out “FBI” if you really want to get technical about it.

          • Flashy

            Mr. Livingston…the FBI statement, not news sources which were all over the board reporting anything they heard. i would think everyone in the hospital was checked out in the initial frenzied investigation and then crossed off the list. This man was singled out by the conspiracy theorists because he is Saudi, a Muslim, and they could somehow in a wacked out wild fantasy way attack the president. As for non-responsive…please clarify how is one to respond to an article that is bordering on sci-fi?

          • Dave

            Flashy,

            The only proper way in Bob’s and the rest of the conservative world is to reply:

            “Why yes Bob… you are totally correct… Obama, DHS and the FBI are all lying because the (insert conspiracy theory here) and want to destory America and our freedom.”

            If you don’t, then Bob will go into “legal” mode and get all “formal” on you with word soup after he calls who he does not like names in the articles he writes.

            Bob knows how to strike the match and apply to the gasoline….Doesn’t matter if what he says is true or not, he has enough fellow conservative websites to cite as proof of what he is contending even though his “references” have the same have nothing of any real substance to them. It just looks nice and right on the surface.

            Bob knows what he is doing…

        • Capitalist at Birth

          Get off the line ya big dope!!!

      • sirian

        Bob,

        Very good article – direct, to the point/points. Isn’t it rather funny that the “useful idiots” respond as they do? Truth has a very sour taste to them.

        I’m glad you’ve mentioned what Glenn Beck has provided. Actual government documentation in ref to the Saudi National being classified as a 212(a)3b terrorist. Undoubtedly there is much more documentation that has yet to be revealed.

        Would any of the typical’s, such as Flashy, even look at the documentation? That question answers itself quite easily.

        • Flashy

          “I’m glad you’ve mentioned what Glenn Beck has provided. Actual
          government documentation in ref to the Saudi National being classified
          as a 212(a)3b terrorist.”

          Ummm…this is what Beck purports to be ‘actual” federal documentation. Then, as it was being sought..it “mysteriously” changed from what Beck “revealed”

          here’s a secret. Involving the government…if it was written down, it never ever disappears. So…what beck purports as being ‘actual” government documentation…it’s there somewhere. ya wanna bet it never is found? LOL

          • sirian

            Flashy,

            As anticipated, ignore facts, push the info in a variety of directions so as to confuse. Uh, sorry, won’t work.

            “here’s a secret. Involving the government…if it was written down, it never ever disappears. So…what beck purports as being “actual” government documentation…it’s there somewhere. ya wanna bet it never is found?LOL”

            Here’s another secret for you Flasho – all they have to do is classify it as CLASSIFIED and you’d never see it. It may be found but you couldn’t see it. Shoot, they could classify it TOP SECRET, come on Flasho, you surely have more between you’re ears than that. Then again. . .

    • John

      You cannot refute the photographs of CIA operatives at the Marathon, the cancelled FBI press conference once their original suspect was exposed, the connections between the FBI and the two accused, and the constantly changing story! All proof of coverup and lies. Enjoy your slavery!

    • CatGman

      Flashy, What is laughable is your willingness to believe or support anything that government or media tells you.

    • alex.frazier@charter.net

      I doubted this from the beginning. I’ve been saying so since the beginning. I even said that the suspects wouldn’t be arrested, but that they’d be killed. One was. The other is lucky to be alive. The police’s attempt to “arrest” him sounded like a hundred strings of firecrackers all being set off at the same time … for a wounded, bleeding boy laying down in a boat.
      The only evidence we’ve been shown is video of them walking down a sidewalk. The rest is hearsay. I haven’t seen a thing to prove that these boys did anything.
      Although, I am not opposed to justice. If they did it, then so be it. Prosecute them. Give them a trial. But I want justice, not revenge, and not patsies.
      If you aren’t at least willing to entertain the possibilities in light of the many discrepancies, then you are very naive.

    • momo

      Mr. Livingston, flashy is pissed off that the bombing wasn’t committed by some white guy with right wing ties. Maybe next time flasho.

  • WeroInNM

    Audio: RADIO Amber and Collin interviews Stew Webb Whistleblower Activist: DHS Martial Law Could happen this week!-Posted on StewWebb.com-By stewwebb-On April 28, 2013:
    http://www.stewwebb.com/news/radio-amber-and-collin-interviews-stew-webb-whistleblower-activist/
    Note: The above audio and articles are contained in my recently updated blog:
    NY Times: Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I. (Part 3)!
    http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ny-times-terrorist-plots-hatched-by-the-f-b-i-part-2-1
    God Bless America!
    Semper Fi!
    Jake

    • Charlie

      WerolnNM,,,
      For all,,, Martial Law Rule has been around since General Grant became “President”,,,don’t believe it? Then show the “Document” that brought America back into “The Constitution” AFTER IT was set aside during the so called “Civil War”,,,clue,,,it ain’t there,,,FIND IT! and show it!… Did General Grant know about “Martial Law Rule”??? AND,,, General Lee agreed with Grant at least for “Peace” in America… Check it out,,,Maybe GALT can prove Me wrong… Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 IS salvation … BTW Lee and Grant were both some what “Christians”……………………………..
      ALSO,,,remember “Popularity Politics” is not law…………………

  • Al Chemist

    This should never have happened with all the people in “Government” who are now working to prevent it (CIA, FBI, DHS …). Now with the FBI and DHS investigating, I doubt the truth will ever be known. We can always hope.

  • Angel

    (formerly angelwannabe) Well said Bob!__So much remains unsaid and unseen by the GUV, just as in Benghazi and countless other operatives that have gone wrong. Its all filled with scapegoats, finger pointing and excuses._We’ll never know the real truth__As for Beck, his team of investigative reporters are top of the line and well as we all know, if you get too close to the truth, the liberals crawl out of there respective cock roach holes and attack him, Bob and the like. There is a h*ll of a lot more to this story that will still continue to be covered up long after this admin is gone. THIS IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL. CONTROLLING THE MESSAGE, CONTROLLING THOUGHTS, BY MSN INCLUDING FOX, AND BLAMING THE SITUATION ON WHOEVER TPTB DECIDES WHO IS TO BLAME.__ YOU KNOW YOUR ONTO SOMETHING, WHEN YOU PRESENT FACTS (EVEN THOUGH INVESTIGATOR SOURCES ARE PROTECTED BY NON DISCLOSURE) AND YOU IMMEDIATELY COME UNDER ATTACK.___NAYSAYERS_ PROVE BOB L. AND BECK ARE WRONG!

    • GALT

      No proof of a negative is possible or required.

      There were no WMD in Iraq…..but Saddam couldn’t prove it, nor could
      the U.N. Inspectors ……..

      There is no way to prove that god doesn’t exist, even though all the
      evidence suggests that if it were TRUE, god would be a complete incompetent having screwed up everything from day one ( whenever
      that was ) and would represent the absolute worst form of tyranny
      than anyone is human history has ever experienced.

      No evidence for = NO EVIDENCE FOR!!!!!!

      • Capitalist at Birth

        There are satellite photographs of weaponry being moved from Iraq to Syria. Where do you think they got their Chemical weapons and their nuclear program?

        • GALT

          Colin Powell had sattellite photo’s of a mobil lab, too.

          I just love those sattelite photo’s don’t you?

          Got any to share?

          • Sarah417

            Yeah, we got a satellite picture of that 19 yr. old boy while he was lying in the boat but that didn’t stop the military from spraying hundreds of rounds into the boat. Those two boys thought they were going to spend only a few yrs. in prison. They didn’t know they were to be killed. I hope we find out who set them up. I’ll bet it’s our own government.

          • GALT

            Re-tasking the satellite to get the angle to see under
            the “tarp” must have been tricky…..good job.

            So these will be available when?

            Government “plots” which locate, inspire and finance
            terrorists ( a.k.a. entrapment ) are created for the
            purposes of being “foiled”………

        • Flashy

          Uh huh ..sure ,eyes rolling> .. that’s why we stopped those shipments and why Bush II and Cheney kept talking about those shipments…jeesh …

      • Angel

        You’d probably do well to read about some famous people who dissed God__with that being said, Sorry Galt__Your opposition doesn’t make you credible__any idiot, if they’re looking, can see what this admin is doing and that is finishing up the take over of the US, but first they have to completely control us, by taking the second amendment!

        • GALT

          It was gone in 1938 along with the rest of “constitution”,
          so what it means will be determined by the courts, congress, and the “enforcement” authority.

          Fairy tales hold no power over me, and are of no
          concern……the idiotic hypocrites who claim to
          “believe” and insist that I do “or else” , would be the
          real threat……..are you one of those?

          • Angel

            …as i said isn’t freedom of speech great, facts are stubborn things, opinions are like butt holes we all got one!___besides I’d rather believe in aGod I can’t see rather than Guv who thinks they are one.

          • GALT

            Why, invisible gods are not dangerous….other people
            especially those who are small minded like yourself
            have always been dangerous in or out of government.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. No facts, just attack. Not the requirement for a so called intellectual. Here is an article describing how we can take our country back.
            http://www.patriotupdate.com/articles/how-to-take-back-the-country-step-one/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leave you out.
            “The rights of the colonists as Christians…may be best understood by reading and carefully studying the institutes of the Great Law Giver and Head of the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written and promulgated in the New Testiment.”
            Samuel Adams
            Founding Father
            Devout Christian

          • GALT

            Some day you may understand what a fact is,
            how they are used to reach conclusions, and
            what constitutes a logical fallacy.

            actually you need only read your own post while looking
            in the mirror…..and then look up non sequitur.

          • Charlie

            GALT,,,
            IF,? one follows a non sequitur , with another non sequitur ? is that a double non sequitur ? OR just stupidity ???

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I would rather go through life believing there was God, dying, and finding out I was right, then to go through life saying there is no God, finding out I was wrong. There is a big different in the heat you will feel if you don’t believe. Remeber this GALT:
            “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
            1 John 1:8 – 9
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Being a Christian is a character which I prize far above what this world has or can boast.”
            Patrick Henry
            Revolutionary General, “The Voice of Liberty”, ratifier of the U.S. Constitution, Governor of Virginia, Devout Christian

          • GALT

            Brilliant, denying what you know to be true, and wasting
            it……for a promise of something else which never has to be delivered……a perfect sucker for the biggest con of all.

            Also Henry was not a general but was a slave owner
            and he opposed the constitution.

            Why is it you talk so much, and know so very little?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Are you sure about all of these things you have stated?
            http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Henry
            Check out the part about the Gunpowder Incident. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States.”
            George Washington
            1st U. S. President
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            Devout Christian

          • GALT

            Yes I am sure he was NOT a revolutionary general as you stated…….and that is what your link also confirms, as well as all the other things which are also confirmed by the very same link.

            A person of integrity would be capable of admitting
            factual error at the very least……..

            “Also Henry was not a general but was a slave owner
            and he opposed the constitution.”

            Seems simple enough……only a w.i.f.i. would be
            confused by it…….and since that is your current
            condition, expectations of either intellect or integrity
            from YOU, are not. ( and have never been. )

          • Barack Embalmer

            Samurai- Im a conservative and far right leaning and I would also call myself a “believer” but I am telling you in the nicest way possible that quoting scriptures from the bible and that non believers will burn in hell is just giving the other side ammunition to use against us. It makes me cringe everytime I see another bible verse on here! The twin towers were taken down by religious fanatics.

          • Bob666

            Yo Timbo,
            I want to thank you for your comment regarding this post. I subscribe to the libertarian philosophy in life and find ones believe in god to be a personal relationship. That being said, most people come to a site like this for the debate of politics and to exchange opinions and seek information.
            If I wanted such a debate of religion, I would got to a site set up for that debate or the exchange of information pertaining to faith. While I have no problem with the mention of religion as one’s right to worship, there really is, no need to get into details of one’s faith beyond your right to worship and practice it.
            I can’t agree with you more when you make the very good point that behavior like this tends to drive more people away than it attracts.
            Again, I appreciate your comments and look for to more of them.

  • Carlucci

    “If police will lie about the weapons the pair had and what happened during the shootout, what else are they lying about?”

    What else are they lying about? How about everything? How do we know they are lying? Their lips are moving.

  • Dave

    Bob,

    This story is embarrassing even for you. Glenn Beck is not a credible source to most people as you most likely believ the Daily KOS is. Your “sources” like Jon Rappoport? One of your contributors and shares your political philiosophy. There is a whole industry that you are part of Bob. Then I look at your source under the wonderful investigative eye of Glenn Beck, the link goes from his site, to the Blaze then right back to Glenn Beck. I would call this a circle ****. Right wing conspiracy sites going back to each other as if that aids credibility. It doesn’t…
    So Bob, let me see if I have your story straight. You believe the Obama adminstration, the FBI and the DHS are all lying… To what end Bob? Surely you have a theory… you put out this story, you may as well go all the way. In your mind it must be to either.
    1) Institute marshal law so the DHS can use the “billions of bullets” they purchased (which is a lie)
    2) An end around for Obama to take all of our guns away
    3) To protect his fellow Muslims since he is a coddler of Muslims
    Sorry Bob, I just don’t believe you and I know your angle is to keep people fearful so they are more easily susceptable to your agena and they buy more guns just as your friends in the NRA/Gun manufacturers want. Just too bad you care so little for this country that you believe anything the Gov does has some evil intent behind it.
    If only you would use your media cite to actually help rather than to tear down. But as things go in this country, if it “bleeds, it leads”. Way to be part of the problem not the solution.

    • Brady Boby

      Obama knows that Tougher back ground checks will not stop shootings at all, he knows this, it will not save lives Obama knows this. So you need to ask yourself why is Obama spending so much time and effort on gun laws? he knows this will not help stop the shootings, so why so much time spent on this? what is Obama’s real reason? why are you afraid to ask this question? we have many more important things to deal with right now than gun control, so why has Obama put that on the front burner? Don’t trust Obama for a min.

      • Dave

        Do you have any stats that show better background checks, better mental health facilities and better law enforcement don’t save lives? I am not a big truster of anyone with a (R) or (D) but this goes beyond the pale.

        Austrailia went further with their conservative Gov on Gun Control

        “Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness.”
        Common sense gun control measures can work and have… But the conservative/corp media do not want you to know that it can and wants to continue keeping the country in fear so more money can be made by the NRA’s chief clients… the Gun manufacturers.

        • Brady Boby

          Anyone can do a “study” and have it turn out the way they want it to turn out. So lets stop the such and such did a study Okay.

          First to be on the do not buy gun list for mental illness right now they have to have a court deem you mentally incompetent, that is correct a court has to do it. The courts don’t like to do this because once they do you are no longer responsible for your actions. This is why there are SO FEW PEOPLE on the list for MENTAL ILLNESS. Obama knows this.

          Only the courts should be allowed to decide if your rights or any part of your rights should be taken away from you. Only in a court room do you have a right to dispute the claim against you.

          Obama wants others to be allowed to add you such as doctors and police departments with the mentality if you disagree with them doing this to you, you can spend 10-50 thousand to fight them in court. If they want to take your rights they need to take you into court not the other way around.

          Obama knows that doctors that do not like guns will just start adding everyone that comes to them, they will abuse it and if you see there is no legal recourse to stop them from doing this. This can be badly abused, this means Obama is just going to put everyone on the list.

          This increasing of “back ground checks’ has nothing to do with saving lives, and everything to do with stopping Americans from owning guns.

          When the government started the sex offenders list they said there would never be more then about 50 per state on this list now there is over 20,000 per state and most should not even be on it, (some states have now ended their list because it got out of hand) can you not see when the government starts lists it not a good thing?

          So please wake up Obama is fighting for more than “extensive” back ground checks, there is so much more to this or Obama would not be fighting against the American people so much.

          • GALT

            You know there is a study of people who say….

            “Anyone can do a “study” and have it turn out the way they want it to turn out. So lets stop the such and such did a study Okay.”

            Just curious, but how are problems SOLVED without
            study?……The devil is in the details……this requires
            “transparency”……..vetting of credentials…….funding
            sources………etc. There are no short cuts in the
            search for relevant FACTS and actual solutions….
            and any number of ways to distort or derail them…..

            BTW the statement is an immediate contradiction to everything that follows it…….no further study required.

            So what now…..flip a coin?

          • Brady Boby

            Here is an example Obama said 90% of Americans agreed with him on back ground checks. How many people did he ask, they say only 1000 people were asked, where was this poll done? how was the questioned asked? was the question clear? or how they ask about emigration, you know “do you support emigration reform?” this could go either way, it could mean, yes I want them all to be sent back and have to come here legally or yes let them stay and be made citizens. Americans mean for them to go back home and make them come here legally but that is not what Obama will try to make you think. Of course Americans do not want them here we do not want them to take jobs and we do not want to support them.

            So anyone can do a poll and have it turn out the way they want it to. So stop your Poll crap.

          • GALT

            Dear “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate”…..

            What part of: “There are no short cuts in the
            search for relevant FACTS and actual solutions….”
            did you not comprehend?

            or: Just curious, but how are problems SOLVED without study?

            or: The devil is in the details……this requires”transparency”……..vetting of credentials…….funding
            sources………etc.

            NOW PAY CLOSE ATTENTION: You just asked
            what appear to be all the necessary questions to
            determine the veracity of information in regards to a poll……..do you have the answers to those questions?

            What is clear is:

            1.) The poll didn’t come out the way you wanted.
            2.) You have no evidence that anything was wrong with the poll.
            3.) You are not going to do the work regarding the questions you ask regarding the poll.
            4.) And you have an answer to the question which
            states that what “all Americans want”….with no
            data what so ever because you haven’t taken a poll.

            So other than demonstrating you are a “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate” and failing to respond
            to the questions asked……and the observation that
            you have contradicted yourself…….take the time
            to think about what you are saying and what is being
            said to you.

            Just in case, this is still NOT CLEAR:

            When you begin with:

            “Anyone can do a “study” and have it turn out the way they want it to turn out. So lets stop the such and such did a study Okay.”

            You are finished. You have nothing further to offer
            and everything after THAT is self contradiction.

            If you, however, you have “information” which indicates that a poll was designed to elicit specific
            answers for any of the reasons you CLAIM, then
            you can invalidate the poll.

            You can not do BOTH and you certainly can’t claim
            to now KNOW what american’s want, based on
            zero information…….at least not if you expect others
            to take you seriously? ( besides w.i.f.i.’s )

          • Brady Boby

            Look you are out of it, we Americans won in a Democracy Congress voted and said no. Period, you can ramble on all you want and it makes no difference. Congress are the American people and they said NO!. They did not agree with Obama and you nuts. They caught Obama lying to the American people about the Sequester and this labeled Obama as a liar.

            Sequester, geesss Obama said “we don’t have a debit problem” then he says he closed things because of not having the money. Obama lies.

            We won in Illinois too, read it and weep:

            Obama was able to get Illinois State to pass a bill that
            denied people the right to carry a concealed weapon. The appeals court ruled the bill to be
            unconstitutional it infringed on the 2nd Amendment on Dec. 11, 2012

            Judge stated: “There is no suggestion that some unique characteristic of criminal activity in
            Illinois justifies the state’s taking a different approach from the other 49 states,” Judge Richard Posner, who wrote the court’s majority opinion. “If the
            Illinois approach were demonstrably superior, one would expect at least one ortwo other states to have emulated it.”

            The Judge gave them 180 days to rewrite
            the bill.

            Obama working with Illinois state legislators re wrote the bill, it stated that a person could get a concealed weapons permit but they had to get the police department to approve it. The state debated this but found they believed if passed the police would reject everyone applying and thus infringe on peoples 2nd amendment rights

            They voted April 18th, 4 days ago,
            and it failed 64-45. The measure needed a super-majority of 71 votes to pass. This is important because Illinois house has 70 democrats. This means even in
            Obama’s own town, democrat controlled, did not agree with Obama or Democrats are starting to see through Obama for what he is. You will not be hearing theliberal press reporting on this because again Obama failed.

          • GALT

            And this is relevant to “your statement about polls”
            because?

            That is all my response to you deals with….

            Do you comprehend it yet or not?

          • GALT

            How is any of that a relevant response to the
            subject of my post?

            Or do you still not comprehend the subject of my
            post?

          • Charlie

            GALT,,,
            With some faults,,,sorry , “Popularity Politics” IS NOT Law … Real Law is in The Bible… Have you read it lately ?

        • Sarah417

          Dave, There are gun laws already on the books. They are just not being enforced. Do we really need more gun laws that will ultimately not be enforced? I have had several guns for oh, at least, 30 yrs and my guns have not shot anyone and no one has shot my guns. Get use to it pal we are not giving up our guns Sens Manchin and Toomey will not be back.

          • Dave

            Who do you think is responsible for weakened gun safety laws? Your friends at the NRA. They have spent more money by far to weaken existing laws abd prevent even the most basic safety measures from seeing the light of day.

      • Karolyn

        People are campaigning very strongly for tougher gun laws. Especially when it’s people who have lost loved ones, it’s like suicide for a politician to turn his back on them.

        • Bob666
        • Brady Boby

          It’s not your decision if people live or die it is their choice. People will kill themselves if they want to, I am pretty sure it is not an easy thing for them to do. You do not walk in their shoes. The stats on the Percentages of people that want the laws changed are very misleading and very small. I think most people if asked about loved ones that have committed suicide with guns would disagree with you, most people will tell you the loved ones they lost wanted to die very badly and did not want to live. You “assume” these people would want it harder for people to get guns and not easier for them. I have had friends that commit suicide where their own families were happy for them when they were gone, comments like “I would have helped them get a gun if it was not against the law”

          You miss understand how people really feel. You might not like it but life is not for everyone.

          • Karolyn

            I have nothing against suicide. I assume nothing about them other than they wanted to free themselves from this physical body. Personally, I would get myself some pills and just go to sleep forever rather than shoot myself. I’m talking about the people like those from Newtown who are campaigning for stricter background checks.

    • Angel

      Man are you gullible or stupid if you think the GUV works in our best interest__and you lefties don’t like Beck because he has his own sources, his TV and his investigative reporters and he’s not afraid of the big bad GUv__”the better to watch you commies with my dear”

      • Dave

        No, don’t like Beck because he is an attention whore and a liar.

        • Angel

          again___PROVE HE IS A LIAR!!!!

          • Dave

            Beck’s big “scoop” that Obama loaned $2 billion of US taxpayer money to Brazil’s oil company for offshore-drilling to benefit China and George Soros.

            DEBUNKED!
            http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims/

            AND DEBUNKED!
            http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

            AND DEBUNKED AGAIN!
            http://urbanlegends.about….ling_brazil.htm

          • Dave

            Obama isn’t even close to being a “Socialist”. Sure, he may have mingled with socialists and entertained socialist ideas when he was younger, but his presidency has mostly displayed a Wall Street-coddling “free-market” capitalist agenda.

            If anything, his actions and policies so far fall to the center right of the global political spectrum.
            You could argue that his Healthcare reform and Stimulus package are socialist, but if you do, you’d also have to argue that Medicare, Social Security, the Fire Dept, the Police Dept, Public Libraries, Postal Service, Public schools, Public parks, etc are all socialist as well. So if you want to keep any of those programs, ooh!, you’re a Socialist!

            If you think Obama qualifies as a Socialist, you have a profound ignorance of history.
            Ever talk to a REAL socialist? Ask them what they think of Obama. They aren’t pleased:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqKYRETD_2E

            Nixon was more of a socialist than Obama is. Hell, by today’s Republican standards (and Beck’s), even Reagan was a socialist:
            http://www.laprogressive.c…-the-quisling/

            http://www.huffingtonpost….r_b_768464.html

          • Angel

            Apparently your not hearing well, I’m not interested in your side of the debate Dave, we are worlds apart on it_-if you wanna participate in the continuance in building the American Socialism Empire then by all means, have at it, I’ll go down with the ship and the what’s left of the Republic if needs be.__we can’t fix stupid nor willful ignorance__but thankfully we have a choice and you and I are not on the same side__nuff said__toodle-loo

          • Dave

            So when the poster-boy for Conservatism Ronnie Reagan expanded the Fed Gov, what was that?

            The DHS, The Patriot Act was Bush, another conservative.

            You are a “useful idiot” for those conservatives in power that have actually done what you claim to hate.

            You need to clean your eyes and ears as well… You asked to prove that Beck is a liar and I did. Anytime a conservative calls Obama a “socialist”, a “communist”, or a “Marxist”, they are lying or they are willfully ignorant.

            Which are you?

            Beck is a liar and a fool and you just choose to ignore the evidence. But your ignorance does not change what Glenn Beck is.

          • Angel

            You have neither proof or facts to fill out your accusations OF conservatism, BECK OR BOB L._ which makes you an Alinski-ite. IN WHICH YOU IF YOU READ THE MANIFESTO, YOUR TAUGHT TO TARGET, FREEZE,, POLARIZE & RIDICULE AND SERIOUSLY TRY TO BACK YOUR OPPONENT IN THE CORNER AND SHUT DOWN THEY’RE CONVERSATION. THEN YOU INJECT YOUR RHETORIC, TRY TO RE-MAKE FRIENDS WITH THEM IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHAT FOLKS KNOW ( WE HAD FAMILY WHO WORKED IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ALSO AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS)__SO ALINSKI-ITE,TO THAT I SAY, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT BUBBA, YA AIN’T WINNING WITH ME WE ALREADY KNOW YOUR TACTICS__BUT HEY, THANKS FOR TRYIN’__lmfao!!!!__

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Good post Angel, but if you are expecting him to understand, then you are just beating your head against the wall. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of copuntry and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Dave out.
            “Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote…that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.”
            Samuel Adams
            April 02, 1781

          • Dave

            LOL… Denial… Ok Angel… Stick your head in the sand and enjoy the bubble.

          • Angel

            no facts just BS__this is going no where soooo_ toodles comrade__ You enjoy that kewl aid and your own bubble you’ve created!

    • Sarah417

      Dave, Obama received about 62 million votes. 11% less than 2008. Romney received 3.3 fewer votes than Obama. 2 Million people did not vote for reasons unknown. Factor in voter fraud and there was a lot of voter fraud as we are finding out as each state discovers and reports. American families making less than $30,000 a year or less low information voters put Obama over the top 62% to 35%. Romney garnered votes where it mattered white males and independents. Now, with this in mind you can see why Obama and his minions want amnesty. He needs those low information minority voters to keep the Democrat party alive. Keep your pie-hole shut pal.

      • Dave

        And it was conservatives who said that Bush’s margin of victory warranted a “mandate” and that margin was smalller than Obama’s over Romney. So you can keep your hypocrisy to yourself. You are either lying or ignorant, I am not sure which yet.

  • Deerinwater

    I fail to see or smell a conspiracy and I’ve got a keen nose for such matters.

    While it’s most likely true, certain information might be withheld from Joe Q Public. There is good reasons for that. ~ Such matters are handled on the “need to know” bases. Any on going investigation can take on a circus atmosphere if you are living it by the second. The process of gathering and assimilating facts from fiction is time consuming and frustrating. ~ That is why it’s called “working”.

    Suspicion is okay to have but spreading it wholesale is never a good idea. The news is just that News ~Relaying information offered. ~~ Commentary goes far beyond News while the process of validation should still apply.

    As far as Mr. Beck , it seems~ spreading flaming suspicion and disinformation is his “Stock & Trade” and I am not a least bit surprised to find that he might be behind such talk. ~ Mr. Beck is an Attention Whore,. and a very good one I might add. he’s forever looking for the “angle” different from all other’s. He’s the Howard Stearn’s of Political Entertainment. ~ Some people love both these men and give them more attention then they deserve. If Mr. Beck’s personal success depended on his accurate predictions of events, he’d be a shoe black shining shoes on Wall Street or hold a sign on a street corner “I work for Food”. ~ Even Murdock’s circus’s found him baggage as has every other employer that has attempted to hire him since he was a young college student. ~

    Criminal behavior ~ has never been known to make a lot of sense to the noncriminal mind. ~~ We are found in disbelief ! ~~ that someone would attempt such a thing! This disbelief has always played to the advantage of a criminal. ~~

    Our best law enforcement ~ spend years of studies to understand the criminal mind ~ it’s hard work and come at a price to those that make it a career and excel at the profession. ~ Not unlike working in the coal mines ~ there is a cost to pay for being so near to danger and evil on a daily bases.

    Let them all do their work, ~ let the News report the finding. ~ let the sideshow market their products ~~ but don’t get lost is a sea of information that leaves you feeling a helpless victim and weaken your rational thought process as good men and women go about their chosen profession.

    • Karolyn

      Amen! I can just imagine people like Beck and others who, as soon as a disaster happens, rather than even taking time to think, jump right in looking for clues to the “real” story. I can almost see them clapping their hands with glee at others’ misfortune just for the chance to find conspiracies. They analyze everything to death, hoping to find discrepancies.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Karolyn,

        You write: ” I can almost see them clapping their hands with glee at others’ misfortune …” You mean like this? http://personalliberty.com/2013/04/26/another-sick-jab-at-small-government-advocates-at-the-expense-of-dead-texas-plant-workers/

        You write: “They analyze everything to death, hoping to find discrepancies.” Actually, the discrepancies are in plain sight. It’s the truth that must be sought.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Karolyn

          I don’t excuse anybody, Bob, no matter what their ideology.

        • Dave

          And Bob, If the “truth” doesn’t lead where you want?… You just cite Glenn Beck, who cites the Blaze, who cites NewsMax who cites Breitbart… Who cares if it is accurate. All part of the right wing/conservative spin machine.

          I don’t trust your sources no more than you trust any I would give you.

          Now the Perry cartoon. Maybe if Rick Perry did not ask for Fed assistance after telling anyone who will listen how “evil” the Fed Gov is and how he will be a voice for secession. Maybe if he cared about safety of this plant more than making a dollar. Maybe if southern conservative lawmakers from TX and other states didn’t vote NO for Sandy relief when lawmakers from NY, NY and CT vote YES when a disaster hits the south.
          Its a biting cartoon, but its based on truth.
          Now close your eyes… Imagine that instead of Perry, it was Obama in the cartoon and he presided over something so extremly hypocritical if he was Gov and the media did that cartoon… Would your reaction be the same? I highly doubt it.
          He doesn’t share your political sensibilities so the the level of “outrage” is different.

          • Angel

            Isn’t freedom of speech great Dave, as a Liberal you can spout off all day long on a Conservative site and no body cares! :)

          • Sarah417

            There is nothing worse than someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Dave. The GOP didn’t pass the bill for relief for Sandy BECAUSE IT WAS CARRYING RIDERS. The Dems added on monies to finance the rail train in Ca, the roof of a museum in Wash,DC,etc,etc. Once it was caught the GOP deleted the riders and passed the bill. Perry could not have prevented that accident in the warehouse in West, Tx. And, I hope Tx secedes. I wish my state would.

          • Angel

            And, I hope Tx secedes. I wish my state would.
            I wish ours would too__but way too many Liberals

          • Dave

            Then what is most people here’s excuse? Leave… Nobody will miss you or any of the other extremists.

          • Charlie

            Yeah,,,and King Jesus Christ is an extremists , or you going to miss Him???

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Nice unfounded rant. Care to cite a source to back it up? Here is an article showing what kind of people you 5th columners are.
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/28/abortion-clinic-suggests-flushing-baby-down-toilet-if-born-alive/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “It is religion (Christianity) and morality alone which we can establish the principles upon which freedom can securly stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.”
            John Adams
            2nd U.S. President
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Yea Dave,
            They come at you with the same sources that are no more accurate than the MSM and in many cases tainted with a political bias. Then, they just do not understand why you can’t buy into their B/S. If you told anyone of them the sun will rise in the east-they would claim it was a Marxist Agenda spread by paid shills of the progressive Ohomo administration.
            But it does have humor value!

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Karolyn,

        You write: “They analyze everything to death, hoping to find discrepancies.” Yet another discrepancy hiding in plain sight:

        New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly says there
        is no evidence that the Boston Marathon bombing suspects were targeting New York. But he says one may have been planning to party in the city after the attack. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57581266/did-boston-bombing-suspects-plan-to-party-in-nyc-after-attack/

        Not long before they engaged in a fevered shootout with the
        police, the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing discussed heading to New York to detonate their remaining explosive devices in Times Square, city officials said on Thursday. The New York police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, said at a news conference that the suspects still had five pipe bombs and another device, similar to the pressure-cooker bombs used in the marathon attacks on April 15, that they intended to use. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/0/26/nyregion/new-york-was-boston-blast-suspects-next-target-officials-say.html?_r=0&gwh=73344EC17EDEEED4890B771A4F7538FC

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Angel

        k GEEZ SOUNDS FAMILAR__you said, “I can just imagine people like Beck and others who, as soon as a
        disaster happens, rather than even taking time to think, jump right in
        looking for clues to the “real” story” __You mean like Mr Tingle up my leg Matthews wishing the bombing was caused by a WHITE, RIGHT WINGER?.

        • Karolyn

          If you will notice, I responded to Bob that I do not excuse anybody for that behavior, no matter what their ideology. Just because I lean left does not mean I condone the behavior of all liberals.

          • GALT

            Probably too fine a distinction for most here…..

            BTW I found this……

            As we first noticed 16 months ago, Amazon is fully on board with the idea. With it, Amazon can throttle smaller online competitors who don’t have the means to sort out which of 9,600 tax rates apply to an individual customer. That is, unless those competitors buy proprietary software from Amazon to do the calculations. For which Amazon will take a 2.9% surcharge of each transaction, thank you very much.

            Was this what you meant?

      • Sarah417

        Glenn Beck looking for clues to the “real” story. Wouldn’t the real story be better than the one the press is giving?

        • Karolyn

          Nobody knows what’s really real.

          • Bob666

            especially Mr. Beck

    • Sarah417

      This story is so unbelievable it’s laughable. Two young boys are walking down the street carrying five pipe bombs and M-4 carbine, two handguns and a BB gun when they decide they need a car and car-jack an Asian mans car. they drive to the college and shoot an officer to get his gun. Why did they need his gun. they had enough weapons already. The authorities tried very had to kill both of them but failed so they wouldn’t confess to who set this all up. My opinion is our own government made this all possible.

  • hungry4food

    Dear Mr. Livingston , check out how the Lies in Washington that make watergate and the Monica fiasco look like child’s play compared to this IN YOUR FACE hey thanks for not forcing me to produce references to my historical records , and while we are at it I will take this Opportunity to rub it in Americans Face !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGF-aGg-yA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  • ampstar

    I wonder why they were saying that they used an AR-15 to shoot at the police… Oh, DUH! now I remember. They also lied about Newtown in order to push a ban that would make us more vulnerable to govt. takeover and total usurpation of liberty.

  • TIME

    Dear People,

    On todays Open Your Mind Show, ~ we revisit what I have been telling you for the last few years. “”””” You don’t have a Government.””””””

    What you do have is a “Corporation”, { this corporations busines is managing YOU.} It’s known as: “The United States Inc.”
    YOU are the people on the land nothing more nothing less.

    You pay your “LAW MAKERS” to Enslave YOU. That implys, “YOU are a SLAVE” to them.

    The Police no matter what branch don’t give a rat ass about YOU. As they again don’t work for YOU. They do work for the LAW MAKERS as well the people who control the LAW MAKERS.
    Thus any type of police be they local, fbi etc. Are nothing more nor less than “Mercenaries”
    The odd part, is that YOU pay for them to treat you the way you get treated.
    THUS ~ when the SHTF, they will not be helping YOU, they will be coming to KILL YOU.

    The United States is a BIG Business and that bussiness again is “managing” YOU, the mass media is their overt as well covert arm to bring about the disired results, or to make you act, think or believe what they tell you to, nothing more nor less.

    Until YOU learn what, who, when, why, and where you will just be swimming in the same old fish tank filled with waste materials.

    Peace and Love, Shalom.

    • Charlie

      Time,,,

      Not bad info ,,,BUT,,,Your “Style” of PRINT/print to ID these USA Inc’s is not mentioned,,, why?… Notice, on all FRN’s United States of America is written in ALL CAPS… Notice , your name on your Drivers License is in ALL CAPS… What does that “”Style”” of print mean??? Is a FRN a “Contract”?,,,is your Drivers License a “Contract”?……………………..

      Notice what King Jesus Christ said to The Devil at Matthew 4,,,”it is written “… Is The Devil in a “Contract” with God that has written “Limitations” on it??? How many “Contracts” are you in??????

      Study The First Commandment very close… Are the other gods , other “Contracts”???……… Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • Deerinwater

      Spoken like a true Tea Party believe. ~ while I would think that this same description fits 99 % of most all world governments Time. Am I wrong in thinking this?

  • Karolyn

    Here’s the link I posted the other day about Beck discrediting himself.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/glenn-beck-discredits-himself

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Karoly,

      You write: “Here’s the link I posted the other day about Beck discrediting himself.” You either didn’t read it, or saw only what you wanted to see. That in no way discredits Beck’s contention.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Karolyn

        It does show that he had his wires crossed. It sounds like he does not know what he was talking about.

  • mnkysnkle

    Good compilation Bob. I pray that soon these false flag events will become an ever tightening noose around the necks of these traitors.

  • truesoy

    Bob,,

    When your source for information is Glenn Beck your credibility, or what’s left of it goes for a nosedive, you are aware of that, aren’t you?
    These must be some very difficult times for you when you have to reach out to a nut cake’s rant in order to promote your political agenda.

    Sincerely,
    Truesoy

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      This coming from someone that has no credibility on this board? Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Let statesmen and patriots unite their endevors to renovate the age by educating their little boys and girls and leading them in the study and practice of the exalted virtues of the Christian system.”
      Samuel Adams
      Founding Father
      Devout Christian

      • Deerinwater

        Hmm? ~ I left to believe samurai , you believe you hold some creditably here? ~

        The absence or war does not constitute a peace samurai, ~ you have been easy enough to ignore. ~ You rarely offer anything other then regurgitating something someone else said, that has “stuck in your mind”.

        Renew your creditably today and post something original ~your thoughts and work for your creditably.

        • Charlie

          DD Winkler,,,
          Ecclesiastes 1:9 says there is nothing new under the Sun… So? what can one do ?,,,but,,, regurgitate ???

          • Deerinwater

            You are leaving no room for growth or inspiration with such a statement Charlie. ~ Unless you are attempting to suggesting, to “know all” is even possible, much less been acquired.

          • Charlie

            Has Man come up with something new that God did not know before??? I am not like some that think they are smarter than God,,,BUT,,, I have a contact that is The Son of The Almighty God, that does know ALL that is or ever will be… Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 IS salvation…

          • Deerinwater

            Well God is not posting here Charlie ~ unless you or Samurai are claiming the title?

          • Charlie

            Darwan,,,
            Read Acts 2:38 and tell us what your Gift is, from The Holy Spirit,,, Samurai can speak for himself,,,but,,,what title do you write of?

          • Charlie

            Darwan,,,
            IF? the title you are writing of is God,,,then,,,yes ,I am one of God’s creations AND obeying what God says to do gives Me The Authority to point at His Words and speak or write them…

          • Bob666

            Yo Darwin,
            An exchange with these two can be a very Limiting Experience. You will try to be rational and have a practical dialog, that is not what you will receive in return.

          • Charlie

            YO YO,,,
            Go play with your yo yo , The Bible is way beyond your experience ……………..

          • Bob666

            Charlie,
            Did you ever consider that many of us do not come to this web site to get your bible reading and believe it or not-That’s OK.

  • leenievunghn

    Just a bit of humor >did anyone hear the “music” played when O had the awards @ WH , just before he was going to speak, just recently??? I think this is what should’ve been played instead>> Wilson Dixon “The Man With No Name” >>>> Obozo & VP Joe>>>> & Wilson Dixon “More Talking Less Action”>>> sound familiar just picture someone else. ha ha!! Also, look at this sight.
    http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/Dunhams.htm

  • Sarah417

    This is all a cock and bull story. Are you going to make me believe that two boys are walking down the street carrying five pipe bombs, an M-4 carbine two handguns and a BB gun and decided to car-jack an Asian man’s car. Drive to the College where they shoot an officer in the head in order to get his gun which the officer’s gun was under a lock and they couldn’t get the gun. Wait, why did they need the officers’ gun if they already had handguns?
    This was all a setup by our own government They probably promised the two boys that they would only be in prison a couple yrs maybe three at the most. They’re families would be taken care of forever. But the boys were unaware that they would not be taken alive. And they sure tried to kill both of them. I pray that the truth comes out when the remaining boy tells all or maybe he will end up deay in the end.

  • rocco

    I have always believed in questioning authority, but the author of this article has gone way overboard. And most of you posting are as paranoid as him. I trust his “facts” even less than the authorities.

    • Deerinwater

      It’s a Tea Party “Thang” Rocco. ~

      They Hate Government~ they hate authority, all of it! While their moral superiority forces their hand to align themselves on the far extreme right by process of simple elimination of available options as “Liberty and Justice of ALL” is something they still are having a big problem with.

      This leaves them to direct all this built up hate on the left. ~ Anything remotely associated with the “Left” is fair game for attack and suspicion.

      With the federal government currently falling under the direction of a democratic Executive Branch, the only elected government officials or employees that are immune to Tea Party attacks, rumors and suspicions ~ are the nutty jobs and fruit cakes that openly and publicly carry Tea Party water.

      Like this New Hampshire fruit cake, ~

      http://londonderry.patch.com/articles/rep-boston-marathon-bombing-staged-stands-by-comment#video-14099579

      The Tea Party will not be seen or heard attacking Stella Tremblay, they might even help fund her reelection.

      This commentary appears to circles back to Glenn Beck ~ and my first impression is that I want to be annoyed with Mr. Livingston for covering it and more so for promoting it as appearing to be factual and suggesting there is a smoking gun that has been deliberately hidden by government.

      But then ~ I regain my composer and realize ~ we need to understand that such people do exist and the extent they are willing to go to express their suspicions and hate. They live among us and have the same freedoms and liberties we all share.

      To be fore warned is to be fore armed.

      Glenn Beck, ~ is a odd one, ~ if you take the time to read his bio and history , you discover that for a man of many opportunities , his few achievement resemble more the works of the devil.

      Glenn Beck is Charismatic much like Jim Jones or David Kerish. ~ he has the ability to Pied Pipper people. ~ I suspect the people that fall under his spell have something in common with the man and can related to him, while he make my skin crawl in the same way Howard Sterns does.

      The SOB is nasty.

  • hungry4food

    What the Ben Bernanke Rally Really means .

    Everyone has the right to know the truth… IF THEY ARE FREE !

    But then again ….

    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

    The question becomes this … ” What does the Future Hold for Free People ” ?

    When Animals have more rights to Life and Liberty than do Humans you can call this deceit .

    When the Law does not apply to those who make the laws you can call this deceit .

    As we seek the truth in times of crisis those who can find it the fastest to save the most blood and treasury of the free society instead seek to use the crisis to further an agenda you can call this deceit .

    For a Agenda of Ideology to take shape The Policies of Polarization instead of economic equality benefiting all in the supply-side sense truth becomes a crisis creator , just like God is being attacked because The truth for free people comes from God Almighty !!!!

    When the society is being divided in class by how the economic policies become totally controlled by a central Government that elects its own central banker and that Banker is singly providing funding for the destruction of a Multi class society by making debt issues funding available to a elite group that supports a ideological agenda making them loyal to this , and at the same time funding through a purchasing policy of treasuries that makes available to the Government welfare funding for over 50 million of the society making them dependent and loyal , while telling the Middle Class that they are the prize to save from this destruction while dividing them up into either elite class or Welfare class with most going to the back of the welfare bus because at this stage of the breakdown of the society they are a little late getting on any bus , you can call this deceit .

    In this time of Societal Breakdown polarization becomes the primary tool in
    dividing up the freedoms that bind a multi class society together making those freedoms seem as if they are the problem not the solution and if anyone speaks out against this action then they are seen as radical , and you can call this deceit .

    When we see a President of a Free
    Country go to its Neighboring Country and make statements that divide the nations societies for a Political wedge agenda on policies that creates more tension between the countries rather than offer durable options that are grounded in the virtues of producing life giving needs with these countries trading each other’s qualities to improve life and liberty , you can call this deceit .
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html
    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” G. Orwell

    It would appear that the breakdown in a free society and its fundamental function of equality is from the suppression of truth that then leads to the oppression of that society , so where do you think we are at in this process ???

    In a Different sense we can see the genocide of Individual Liberty by the Financial destruction of the Middle classes ability to be self supportive by a Free market fundamental that produces Jobs and Businesses by the corrosive restrictions of a Over regulated market place that isolates start up business from the capital it needs , case in point see what happens to JP Morgan here , and remember this effects all the other firms that Lend to generate true supply side growth .

    Also pay attention to the Politics of ” ENVY ” in the Headline ;

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/03/jpmorgan-chase-regulatory-troubles-dimon_n_3210199.html

    See this to understand the stages of how breaking down society fits
    into the trend of breaking down the fundamentals of free society . http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/8StagesBriefingpaper.pdf

    This and all other dividing tactics that create polarization are being used
    to prostitute the separation of the free society from its freedom binding
    liberties that truth sustains !

    The Ben Bernanke stock market rally , ( see this ; http://lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff222.html ) , is being used to divide free market capitalism away from the fundamentals of supply-side growth and the truth of this is also being covered up by those who should be sounding the alarms but are being bought off by their own greed of being conflicted with their own investments in this market rally , right down to the very Politicians that are also invested in the Key rallying stocks that they got insider information on before anyone else . This is the perfect storm for the division of Truth from its Halls of Laws so a Agenda of Ideology can be born !

    Its an Ideology thats designed to use the Middle classes Emotions by
    unleashing the dogs of communism with the Politics of ” ENVY ” a sin
    that Corrupts and Corrodes everything in its path !

    While the Middle Class is segregated away from its freedoms in a Free Market Supply-side Job market with the regulations from this corrosive Agenda targeting the Institutions that create funding privately to create the fundamentals of supply-side market growth that makes it seem like the lack of growth needs a crisis solution and here comes Government to the rescue ! Give them More Power to Tax and spend as they see fit and you the Middle Class will be able to get back at those evil rich Corporate Private Jet flying elites and together we will stop Global Warming and save you from the destruction’s of this so called free market solution !

    But within this agenda these same crisis evolutionists are calling for
    ZERO growth and controlled rates of consumer consumption , but the NOW 2 Class
    Society is so divided that they can’t see this evolving , and in this case a
    majority is not who wins in the end they are the ones that end up Oppressed when the dollar is rejected in the international markets because of the debt the Ben Bernanke rally is producing thats exceeds any fundamental truth in supply backing up the issued paper currency supply….

    Watch Japan and what they are doing its a little version of what we will see
    in the USA once this domino falls , see this story , http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-02/how-japan%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cstealth-constitution%E2%80%9D-destroys-civil-rights-and-sets-stage-dictatorship

    This is history repeating itself in pure fundamental prophesies let alone
    biblical !

    Lets recall these stories to see how this call for controlled
    consumption policy is being implemented ;

    The Earth is full

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/08/opinion/gilding-earth-limits/

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44990504/ns/us_news-life/t/seven-big-problems-billion-people/

    http://www.today.com/id/44990504/ns/today-today_news/t/seven-big-problems-billion-people/

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/01/seven-billion/kunzig-text

    http://www.livescience.com/16713-7-billion-people-world-poop-problem.html

    So go ahead and give the Government more power over your freedoms to be self providing and independent and see how long you are free because these people talking in these links are the Bureaucracy that advises the Government .

  • BTeboe

    The more I read, the more I don’t put anything past our govt. I’m beginning to feel like a stranger in a strange land.

  • ridge runner

    Red, Obama is total submerged to the top of his nappy head in any muslim terrorist behavior, where Was the muslim marxist and the unisex Se of State when Bengahizi killings were going on? Apparently demorats spout her BS response. Those 2 congential liars can not and will not tell the truth, and never have. Might as well end TSA, State Department, and Homeland Security, how many muslim fks, either traffic in slavery, drugs, and explosives, all worthless government created crap.

  • Sparky

    People speak of getting rid of Obama and I can’t argue the point. But who would replace him, a Republican that is every bit as corrupt or even worse? What we need is a compleate overhaul to get back to the Constitution, not just trade one crook for another.

    • Deerinwater

      Well, many of us thought the same of “W” by 2006~ ~ Saying it ~ is much easier than actually doing it.

      It ‘s safe to say ~ you give that thought up.

    • Irish1025

      That’s been my thinking since Obama got into office. The two political partys are opposite sides of the same coin. There is no difference between them. You are absolutely dead on with a complete overhaul and getting back to our constitution, sure do hope it’s not too late to save America.

  • ONTIME

    This frigging administration is playing so close to the edge, they cannot afford anything to get by without being reviewed by every lawyer they have to CYA the Faker and his gang of thieves..It’s a WH full of paranoids and criminals…

  • Guest

    It’s just another false flag to take our rights away and pave the way for marshall law and the NWO. The only thing complicated about this is the spin.

  • johna650

    Our Marxist Progressive rulers control 30% of the GDP. They can cut off funding to any individual, business, organization with a flick of the switch. Remember Gibson Guitar. Its competitor was owned by an Obama supporter and large contributor who most likely demanded they be put out of business on some trumped up charge. There are examples too numerous to mention supporting this simple fact. Obama and Bush are also patsies for the Saudis. Remember, it was Saudis and Egyptians who planned and executed 9/11, yet we invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq and Libya. Obama knows who planned and executed the Boston bombing and he is willingly covering up for his Muslim masters.