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Boehner Vows To Prevent Terrorist Trials In NYC

February 2, 2010 by  

Boehner vows to prevent terrorist trials in NYCHouse Minority Leader John Boehner said last week that Republican leaders are determined to prevent suspected terrorists from being tried in a civilian court in New York City.

"There is not going to be a trial in New York, I guarantee it," said the Ohio Representative, quoted by Fox News. "There is no appetite for the trials in Congress."

Boehner added that Obama does not have the necessary votes to change the law to move Guantanamo Bay detainees to U.S. soil or to spend the $500 million necessary to upgrade the Thompson prison in Illinois, the facility to which the administration plans to move all Gitmo prisoners in the near future.

"The Justice Department is confident that it can safely prosecute this case in the Southern District of New York while minimizing disruptions to the community to the greatest extent possible, consistent with security needs," said department spokesman Dean Boyd.

Meanwhile, many conservatives have heavily criticized the administration’s treatment of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the suspected Christmas Day airline bomber, who is currently being prosecuted in a criminal court instead of being held in military custody.
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  • Jim Robins

    I agree with House Minority Leader John Boehner in his effort to stop the terrorist trials in NYC. We the people have had to endure all to much political inference in military matters in the last 6 decades. Since the Korean War the political powers to be, have felt they knew more about conducting military operations than do the military. As a retired Special Agent, I have witnessed all to much interference with military operations, that have resulted in the deaths of many of our young soldiers.
    I propose that we ask the Obama administration and congress ro please stay out of military operations, and let the military do their jobs.

    Thank you.

    • http://mooresmorgue@hotmail.com John Moore

      I think they should waterboard all terrorist until they have no more usefull info, then hang them. A rope two ends!!!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    While I also agree with House Minority Leader John Boehner in his effort to stop the terrorist trials in NYC; I think if Obama has to have this trial in America, he takes it to Chicago, the city that loves him so much!

    • Claire

      No, No, No, No!! Then they would be set free.

  • Phyllis

    Any crime of terrorism should not be tried as a civil crime whether the person committing this crime is a citizen or not. A crime that threatens the country is treason, this is federal – not civil. I kind of like your idea Victor, but I wouldn’t even want to wish this person on Chicago – no it should be a federal matter with no miranda rights awarded.

  • http://Don'thaveone Sally

    I don’t know why this is even an issue. We have far greater things to worry about that the rights of Muslims who should have been tried for treason and killed long ago – Please see the below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZiw3qVdFzw

    Here is a blunt and chilling answer to a serious question put to

    Newt Gingrich on CNN. It is a clearly worded warning not heard from

    any other public figure concerning the state of world affairs. This

    is one the most powerful and articulate summaries of the dangers of

    our current situation ever heard, and a mystery why it is not

    painfully obvious to every American and a subject of constant

    discussion. It not only demonstrates the dangers we face, but

    clearly shows what an experienced and knowledgeable leader can

    convey in five minutes without the use of a Tele-Prompter and a

    speech writer.

  • Flynn

    How many millions of dollars has the Bush and the Obama Administrations already spent to house these detainees at Gitmo? Now they want to spend additional millions to house them somewhere else as well as additional millions to close Gitmo. It is no wonder that our government is broke. For gosh sake, please leave these people at Gitmo until they are tried in military tribunals; then, if they are convicted, they can be shot there, and, if they are acquitted, we can decide what to do with them at that point in time. Don’t bring them to these shores, and don’t make us pay additional millions, which we cannot afford, to try people whom many in the government already says are guilty.

    • chipshot

      Flynn,
      I may be mistaken about the exact number that GITMO cost us but it was around $100 million when it was said and done.

      Now I understand that islamobama is asking for $220 million (or thereabouts) to buy a prison in Illinois to move all te current GITMO evacuees to.

      Anything to keep a good muslim happy. Why not just close down GITMO and move all them into the whitehouse with islamobama. That would be a real love fest.

      And it would probably raise the standare of morality in the Whitehouse too.

      • Claire

        chipshot–The prison is already here in upper state Illinois. It is mostly vacant. That is where they are supposed to go. And a lot of people here in Illinois is in favor of it plus the politicians. It is supposed to create 3,000 jobs. I cannot believe it. Is it going to take 3,000 people to take care of the sorry bunch of terrorists? Another song and dance.

        • Claire

          chipshot—are you a golfer?

          • chipshot

            yes, I play. I love golf cause it teaches you a lot about life. Like everytime you think you have it figured out, something happens to show you how much you really don’t know.

          • Claire

            chipshot–off the subject but my husband and son play a lot. I figured you did play golf–your “call” name gave you away!! I took lessons years ago but I do not have the patience. I want to “win” right away!!!

          • libertytrain

            chipshot – your description of golf sounds more like life.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–I am in full agreement.

      • Joe H.

        chipshot,
        that is just for the prison. Then there is the cost of the court trials and the mountain of security for NYC. they are talking close to a billion dollars by the time the trials are done. That doesn’t take into account the losses of business in lower Manhattan!!! Billions there also. There are hundred of businesses that wouldn’t last and understandably close!

  • Robin from Indiana

    Perhaps we should leave them where they are. We could even leave the cells unlocked. That way shooting them for escaping would be justified!

    • JeffH

      I believe we should fly them back to their countries and let them parachute from the plane. By the way I volunteer to pack their parachutes.

      • chipshot

        Why give them chutes? Just let them bail out at 30,000 feet and if they live through the landing, they are free to walk.

        • Michael J.

          Chipshot,
          With due respect, I think the fact that JeffH had no intent of them surviving the fall went right over your head.

          • BOE

            Michael..it did not go over his head. Let them feel the fear that many have felt at their hands of torture. Let them feel sick realization they are going to die…very violently…as those poor innocent people in the trade center. I bet they will be crying like little wussies when the violence is directed at them.

          • chipshot

            M,
            Thanks for setting me straight. I would have never known.

  • Raggs

    It’s knuckleheaded to give them a civilian style trial.
    Billions of dollare blown to hell on 9/11. Millions of dollars blown on gitmo. And now millions more on a trial. And later millions more on inprisonment…. And just think how many of these terroist will be done / treated the same way.

  • Robert

    Three cheers for Boehner. I’m from NYC and if Obama and his knuclehead cronies want to try these SOB terrorist in NYC, I’m for it as long as they put them in a cage and suspend them from a boom crane over Ground Zero. This way all us NYer’s can give them fair justice just like they gave it to all 3000 that died on 911. But Obama doesn’t have the balls to do that.

    • Earlw

      I say Microchip’em in a place they don’t know about, ship ‘em back to their home country, and if they try coming back in again, arrest ‘em and execute them. It’s ridiculous to spend another dime on this joke of an issue. Some of the detainees were Picked up in dragnets or “snitched” off by other individuals, and otherwise were not terrorists. It’s about time to resolve these issues, not warehouse them indefinitely. No I am not a bleeding heart liberal, so don’t go there….We need to get off the dime and start cutting costs. Never mind that each one of the ones that got caught up in this mess, if they weren’t terrorists before, certainly have motivstion to be one afterwards……..Git ‘er done

      • Michael J.

        Earlw,
        I like the idea of the microchip. However, a GPS tracking device would work better. Once they link up with a terror cell, it’s just a matter of sending in the predator drones, and BOOM! Sort of like killing cocroaches only much more satisfying.

  • http://Yahoo Dee D

    Why no hue and cry when the Cheney administration were trying terrorists here in America? Why so many double standards?

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      What trials are you speaking of?

    • eyeswideopen

      Dee. here’s the link showing how the Supreme Court ruled on the military tribunals holding trials for the terrorists.
      http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/

      A right leaning Supreme Court decided to uphold the Constitution and our treaties and ruled against military tribunals. This is just political rehtoric of the right, trying to make the American people live in fear.

      • chipshot

        ewo,
        you say: QUOTE: A right leaning Supreme Court decided to uphold the Constitution and our treaties and ruled against military tribunals. This is just political rhetoric of the right, trying to make the American people live in fear. UNQUOTE

        To paraphrase a quote from the 2nd communist president of the US:
        We have nothing to fear but this fascist president and the antiAmerican congress now in power, each of whom is hell bent on destroying the US dollar, the US economy, and the middle class.

        Believe me, the American people have every reason to be fearful of islamobama and the band of thugs in the whitehouse, to say nothing of the mental midgets running congress (pelosi galore and hitman reid).

    • Michael J.

      DeeD,
      The difference is that KSM has already pleaded guilty and requested execution. Why fork out close to one billion dollars and put a bullseye on any American city. One well placed shot would put KSM out of our misery.

    • chipshot

      dd,
      I’m waiting. It seems like a simple question. What trials?

  • Warrior

    A chance to prove to the world that not only is our health care system the most expensive but so is our legal system! Maybe we need a legal reform bill too.

  • chipshot

    Why not have the trials in d.c. Preferably in the white house or maybe in the house of reps? Maybe that would at least shut down the clown prince of finances and his elaborate spending habits?

    In fact, why have the trial at all. Just declare him a free man except that he would have to live with islamobama for the next ten years. Islamobama loves muslims (and men too from what I hear). It would be a perfect match.

    • JeffH

      Obama would throw a lavish party for the perrists detainees if they were sent to the Wgite House.

      • JeffH

        perrists? don’t know how that got there. Try terrorists.

  • Warrior

    Yeah, maybe have the trials over a beer with Joe on the WH patio. Why not, the cop was admonished by O before the facts were out. He did the same thing with the terrorists claiming they will be found quilty so why even have a trial, let’s just have a big beerfest in the yard. Hope no one pees on Michelle’s garden.

    • Joe H.

      Warrior,
      If they won’t use the facilities, let them use all those new gowns we paid for although that would probably give her reason to buy more on the public dime!!!!!

  • Norm

    Suntan Boehner is one of the most repulsive characters in politics. Where to try these murderers is so far down the list of national priorities that its a nonissue. Maybe if Boehner would spend a little time doing his job and not attacking Obama and the Dems., congress might actually get something done.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      No. 1 Norm, it never should have been an issue – don’t you remember who instituted this? Of course one of your own!!!!!! Obummer of course. I do agree we have many many more issues but your people started it nd we are not going to let it happen here especially in civil court – Its crazy. Gitmo shouldn’t be closed either.

    • Warrior

      Norm, it is all a diversion.

    • chipshot

      Let’s hope congress doesn’t get anything done. Everything they do just adds to the deficit that our great great great grandchildren will still be paying for. Hell, it would be great if they would all just pack their bags and go home till November.

      No congress is a GOOD congress!

    • Claire

      Norm— I agree with you about Boehner. I can’t stand that guy either. However, regarding the terrorists trial in New York. They should be CONVICTED in a military court. By trying them in a military court, hopefully, it will take less time, less lawyers, less money, etc. I am afraid if they are tried in a U.S. court there will be too many chances for them to beat the rap, there are too many loopholes. Plead insanity and they’re off the hook. Personally, I don’t think we should even have a trial for any of them. And God forgive me for saying this, but, if and when any are caught, look for the nearest tree!!! An eye for an eye.

      • Norm

        Claire
        After seeing the judicial system Connecticut, I am afraid that I reluctanty agree with you. The system is broken. It’s all a game played by slick talking overpaid, imoral, fools who have little concern with justice.

        • Claire

          Norm–yes, the system is broken. I just do not trust the handling of these terrorists and I do not trust Eric Holder. Terrorists must be dealt with and “put away” for good. They should be tried in a military court. If I were a lawyer, there is no way I could “defend” terrorists, and with the court system, I would be scared they would be set free. Going to prison for life is too good for them. I will repeat myself–the nearest tree. I have no compassion for them.

          • eyeswideopen

            Claire, here is the reason they should be tried in a civil court.
            We do not want to elevate them (Al qaeda) to the same standing as a foreign country. They are a terrorist group, their actions are organized crime, committed by individuals and not a foreign government. Tribunals are meant to deal with ememy soldiers. Soldiers represent a country, not an organization hiding out in a country committing horrendous acts against innocent people. We should not honor the terrorist by giving them the status of a foreign soldier. A civil trial diminishes them, they are not going to become martyrs for the cause, they will be viewed as the criminals they are and not soldiers.

          • Michael J.

            EWO,
            Absolutely no one has recommended that the detainees be treated as soldiers. The term is enemy combatants, the destinction makes the difference.

          • Claire

            Eyes–I had read this myself. If tried in a civil court–no honor –if tried in a military court they become a martyr. But I am still afraid some loophole will pop up and they will not receive the punishment they deserve.

          • chipshot

            EWO,
            If they are tried in a criminal court given every right that we would give a US Citizen, even those born in kenya, then chances are very good that they will walk.

            I doubt they were given their miranda right when captured. I doubt they were told they could refuse to talk, and that everything they say would be used against them in a court of law, I doubt they were told that, if they did not have a lawyer, one would be provided for them.

            Besides, the libs would love to have all the discovery procedings that would involve all the “mistreatment” they have been exposed to after internment at GITMO. The libs would love to see them walk just so they could show the world how “good” we are, and how, if the terrorist would just be nice to us, everyone would get along just fine.

            Besides costing in the millions for each trial (your tax dollars at work, right?), it would take several years to find them innocent, which we would do.

          • Joe H.

            chipshot,
            don,t forget that in a military trial these SCUM are not given the soap box they want to spread their hatred. Military trials are indeed quicker than civilian and anything that speeds these crapper scum towards their just deserts is preferable to me!!!

          • Claire

            JoeH— no disrespect but I need to ask—didn’t the Bush Administration try numerous terrorists in civil court?

          • eyeswideopen

            Claire, yes, they have tried 197 so far in civilian courts. So, Obama, wants to continue what Bush has been doing for 7 years and suddenly it is wrong. Now the Repubs have decided that it isn’t right. The war that we declared was on an organization, not a country. Military tribunals are for soldiers of a country we are at war with.

          • eyeswideopen

            Chipshot, our form of democracy, upheld by laws, is expensive and has always been expensive. Once you start dismantling our laws, you are opening the path to the type of government you accuse the liberals of wanting. You don’t have much faith in your Constitution do you? We are a Nation of Laws, and our first priorty should be to always protect those laws.

        • Joe H.

          Claire,
          Yes, and I was against that as well. I don’t want these scum to have any kind of a soap box to give their tirade to the others out in the US and I sure as hell don’t want them to go free or to say anything that might hurt the survivors or their families. If eyes doesn’t like that then it’s just too bad!!!

          • Claire

            -JoeH–I certainly don’t want them to go free. I said in earlier posts on a different site–the nearest tree is the answer. But we live in a “civilized” society so that won’t happen. I appreciate the fact that you said you did not agree with the others being tried in civilian courts in the past. You do not participate in the double-standard way of doing things, and I respect you for that.

          • Claire

            Eyes—this is the game we play when dealing with politics. It has always been this way, and nothing will change it. All we can do is stand up for what we believe–America and the Constitution– and I sincerely pray and hope for the best.

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, I honor the Constitution, and the Supreme Court has ruled that military tribunals were not to be used. Why does it seem that those on this site, only want to obey the Constitution when it happens to coincide with their desires?

          • Joe H.

            eyes,
            what about the businessmen in lower Manhattan that will ultimately go out of business due to the lack of customers? What about the estimated billion dollar price tag to try them in NYC? Leave them at GITMO and try them there!!! There are a lot of lawyers and judges that have said that the federal court doesn’t have the authority to try enemy combatants that are not citizens of this country that are captured on foreign soil!!!! I humbly suggest that they may know a little more than either you or I!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, who do you think will come to those trials? The courtroom only holds so many. How about all the other trials, they didn’t put people out of business. You have to come up with something better than that.

    • chipshot

      Norm,
      I don’t know much about Boehmer but he must be helleshishly repulsive
      if he tops barney caveman franks, the 3 witches from the west (Pelosi galore, twiggey boxer, and diane roughstein), harry hitman reid, maxine muddy waters, and nosey Waxman to name a few.

      If I’m not mistaken, Boehmer, as a pro-American, conservative, believer in the Rule of Law, the Constitution, and Republic, and supporter of a capitalist system and free market, and believer in the Bill of Rights and the Freedom guaranteed by GOD enumerated therein, would of necessity be opposed to socialism, big government, deficit (hey, islamobama has given new meaning to the word) spending, and just about everything else your American hating, muslim loving, foreign born, “president” and his band of thugs would support or propose. No, not “just about everything”; make that EVERYTHING.

      So, when he “attacks” islamobama and the fascist leaders of the democratic party, that is what he is supposed to be doing. Stopping the dems dead in their tracks is the ONLY way to save America, and I, for one, applaud Boehmer for doing his job.

      If he could somehow get them angry enough to shut down congress and go home, it would be the best thing that could happen.

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    It is really a very stupid idea to have the trial of the terrorists
    in New York City or any place in the United States. What is the matter with these people’s brains? I think they have a court in GITMO
    and they should be tried there. They are terrorists not common criminals.

    • chipshot

      A stupid idea?? From islamobama?? No way. Not from the “enlightened” one?

  • chipshot

    I think the next president of the U.S. should be an American. And he should love America. And believe in the Constitution. And the Rule of Law. And capitalism.

    Wouldn’t it be great to have an American President?

    • Michael J.

      chipshot,
      Agreed, we should all keep our eyes peeled for the next Ronald Reagan.

    • Norm

      chipshot
      You are way over the top. Stop, and used the brain that God has given you.

      • chipshot

        Sorry Norm,
        I thought everyone knew.

      • Michael J.

        Norm,
        So you don’t think an American president is a good idea?

        • Norm

          Michael J.
          Hawaii was a state in the United States of AMERICA the last time I checked.

          • chipshot

            Sure norm, just keep on believing whatever islamobama and his gang of thugs tell you.

          • Michael J.

            Norm,
            I did not ask you about Hawaii. I asked you, “So you don’t think an American president is a good idea?

          • Joe H.

            Norm,
            going to answer Michael??? Just wonderin!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      chipshot, you believe in rule of law, see what the Supreme Court ruled regarding tribunals in above post.

      • chipshot

        EWO,
        You make a good point. And I am all for the Rule of Law as defined by The Law of the Land which is the Constitution.

        Unfortunately, neither party and very few politicians, believe in the Constitution anymore. So we are left with unconstitutional laws passed by congress and “executive orders” signed by the president which then become “law”. On top of that we have federal agencies (EPA) unilaterally creating law with dictates (see recent declaration about CO2 as a poison).

        So, I have made a personal decision that I will not obey an unconstitutional law. The congress can pass all the unconstitutional laws they want. Your president can sign all the executive orders he wants. If they are clearly unconstitutional, I will not obey them.

        I can see the day in the not too distant future, knowing where we are headed with islamobama’s deficit spending and continued flaying of the Constitution, where we are going to have a complete breakdown of the Rule of Law in the U.S. I hope all patriots are prepared for this.

        So, when the politicians and our government in general start considering whether or not their actions are allowed under the U.S. Constitution, they will regain some of my respect. And I will obey the Rule of Law, Constitutional Law that is.

        • Claire

          chipshot–I agree, especially with your second paragraph.

        • eyeswideopen

          chipshot, I agree with you. The Supreme Court overruled Bush’s exec. order to use military tribunals.

  • Michael J.

    This entire fiasco is yet more evidence of what the chosen one is willing to put this country through in order to obtain his own personal agenda. The trials in New York were designed to prove to the world population (the anointed one’s future constituents)that the mystical messiah is fair and compassionate toward all peoples other than his own and therefore worthy of being seated upon the throne, The United Nations Secretary General that is, King of The World once he has obsorbed all the usefulness of being POTUS. He sees his present position of power as merely a waystop on the road to his inevitable, deserved glory.

    There is only one problem with his plan. He has severely under estimated the will of the American citizens. The same Americans who boldly evicted the greatset super power of it’s time, the British, with not much more than flint lock rifles and an iron will to be free. A struggle that started then and ironically now in Massachusetts in which we were and will be again triumphant at casting out the tyranny from our shores.

    It must be clear now even to him, that his days of marauding manipulation are drawing to an end. That his relentless pursuit of power has reached it’s apex. The coming days will be full of second guessing and regrets. “Maybe I set my sights too high, in Kenya maybe I would have sucseded”?

    • eyeswideopen

      Michael, where were you during the 197 other trials that have taken place there during the Bush reign? Heard a Repubs say that was a mistake having the trials there. Why was it a mistake? When did you realize it was a mistake, just this month? There is one going on right now and nobody even knew it. Funny set of rules you have.

      • Michael J.

        EWO,
        Besides KSM, how many of the others have plead guilty prior to trial and requested that punishment be carried out?
        If a trial is needed to calm the bleeding hearts of some, do it at Gitmo. The recruitment of terrorist will not be affected one way or the other by this action. The Fruit of the Boom bomber proves it.

      • chipshot

        EWO,
        I am all for shuting down GITMO and sending all the prisoners to d.c. to live in public housing next to the whitehouse. The libs should be happy since that would give them more voters.

        The mistake we made was not lining them up and shooting them when we captured them in the first place. That is better than they treat our soldiers when al quida captures one of them. And it would have solved the problem with a cost of about $1.00 (cost of one 308 cal bullet).

      • Claire

        eyes—I just asked this question. I remember terrorists being tried in civil courts back then. God help me, I am embarassed that I don’t remember the outcome. I have to look it up. Shame on me.

      • chipshot

        EWO,
        I’m a little slow so you will have to bear with me for a sec. You talk about “the 197 other trials that have taken place there during the Bush reign?” like I should know which 197 other trials that have taken place. What 197 other trials? And where is “there”?

        And the “repub” you “heard saying it was a mistake”. Repub meaning RINO? What exactly was the “mistake”? Having the trials? Where the trials were held? Sorry, I’m a littls slow so you’ll have to help me with this.

      • Joe H.

        eyes,
        I’m trying to be better with you, but I must say you sound like a broken record tonight!!! 197 skip 197 skip 197!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Joeh, so you don’t think that after all these years of trials that now suddenly the Republicans were wrong, is a little nuts? Military tribunals are for soldiers of countries, not for organizations that commit crimes. The terrorists are common criminals, similiar to the Mafia, they are not soldiers serving a specific country. Why is that so hard to grasp?

    • chipshot

      Hey, in his home country of kenya, they would have seen thru his lies a long time ago. I don’t think community organizers get very far in Kenya.

      • Norm

        chipshot
        The birther thing is getting a little stale. Typical Glenn Beck nonsense.

        • chipshot

          Norm,
          Sorry. I didn’t realize there is a statute of limitation on the truth

        • Michael J.

          Wrong again Norm,
          Beck believes Obama was born in Hawaii. Hey, you two have something in common.

  • James

    The U.S. Constitution (Art. III, Sec. 2) defines and limits the jurisdiction of federal courts. Two of those listed were removed by the 11th Amendment (on Feb. 7, 1795), which illustrates that any change to federal court jurisdiction requires a constitutional amendment, not a mere act of Congress. And since the detainees in Guantanamo are not ‘citizens’ of a State, here, they may not be tried in any federal court, here. See Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393, (1856), at page 454, where Chief Justice Taney said so.

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