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Bloomberg Calls For Federal Action On Gun Laws Following Arizona Investigation

February 3, 2011 by  

Bloomberg calls for Federal action on gun laws following Arizona investigationNew York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has called on Congress to tighten Federal laws that allow individuals to purchase firearms without a background check. His statements followed a recent probe in which city investigators, who posed as consumers, were able to purchase firearms at a gun show in Phoenix.

According to media reports, undercover video footage reveals that one of the investigators was able to buy a gun after telling a private seller that he likely wouldn't pass a background check. Arizona law says that private gun merchants are not required to run background checks. However, if the seller "has reason to believe" a customer is barred from buying weapons, they are prohibited from completing a sale, according to The Huffington Post.

On Jan. 31, Bloomberg said that the investigation proves that Federal gun control laws are ineffective at keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer defended her state's regulations, and said that she is considering legislation that would further loosen the current policies. According to the Arizona Daily Star, Brewer admitted that she did not see the investigation video but said that the state's laws are "fair and just."

"We're strong people in Arizona," said Brewer, quoted by the media outlet. "We believe in the Constitution, and we certainly support the 2nd Amendment." 

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  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    WOW,backround checks,maybe when people running or holding political office get one first,and for added value a lie detector test every year in office,opps and a drug test every thirty days,whats good for the goose is good for the gander.i must be dreaming,for all the above will happen only when pigs have wings.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Good Points, all valid and yes I like the idea that politicians need to pass a screeing as well…especially a Failed Business check..anyone who loses their business due to poor financial decisions should not be allowed to vote on spending bills…

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bitter Libertarian,
        I too, agree with Vaksal as if you think about it, the shooter in Tucson was real bad, don’t get me wrong, but it affected how many lives? maybe if you take the shock into consideration, 100 people? If the politicians let 10 dollar a gallon gas happen, how many are gonna starve or at least go hungry?? A few million? If the gun buyers need to get background checks then so should ANY politician and they DAMNSURE should get random drug testing!!

      • Kinetic1

        A failed business check? Good idea! That would have saved us from 8 years of Bush.

        • JC

          Psychotically obsessed? (Bush is gone)

          • catchesthewind

            Bush my butt. What about obama?

          • Jamie

            Yes but the bad joke he played on our country is still going on…and will be until they repeal the Bush tax cuts…the biggest job killer this country has ever known…it killed 8 million job before he left office…and is keeping the country from recovering quicker.

          • JC

            Jamie, while I have absolutely no respect for the President who initiated a false war, the Patriot Act, bail outs and said; “The Constitution is just a damned piece of paper”…It can not be ignored that we have gone from bad to much much worse. Obama is doing his absolute best to kill the USA and everything it stands for.
            And if he isn`t doing it deliberately…he must be the absolute stupidest man ever to hold the office of POTUS.

          • Ms. Abby

            As a small business owner I benefited from the tax cuts. People also have more money to spend. Here’s a breakdown of the cuts and what will happen when they go away. They benefited a great number of American families and individual middle income wage earners.

            The 10, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent rates would all rise. The new tax rates would be 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent. This would cost taxpayers about $157 billion per year.

            •The indexing of the alternative minimum tax for inflation would end. The AMT, which provides $66 billion in annual relief for taxpayers, attempts to ensure that individuals who benefit from itemized deductions or credits pay a separately calculated minimum tax.

            •Taxes on capital gains and dividends would rise, meaning that investors could potentially pay about $35 billion more.

            •Married couples would go back to paying higher rates than today, at a cost to them of $32 billion per year.

            •Expanded tax credits – such as the child tax credit, which went from $500 to $1,000 – would end. This would cost families $26 billion per year. Some taxpayers would also pay an additional cumulative $1.5 billion in education costs.

            •The estate tax, which has already expired, would go back to its 2009 level, costing heirs at least $26 billion.

            •Higher-income households would see the dollar value of their personal exemptions phased out and would have a lower value for certain itemized deductions. This would cost those people – most of whom make well over $170,000 a year – about $21 billion.

            Then factor in that there are small business owners that fall at the top of the brackets and would perhaps have to go up a bracket, and you are taking money out of our pockets. A lot of time that is not earnings to us, it’s capital for reinvestment in our businesses.

            The bottom line here is that these tax cuts put more money in ALL our pockets.

        • uncldom

          Name One Of Bush’s Policies That Obama Did Not Continue, Even With a Democratic House and Senate?

          • Ms. Abby

            They can’t…..

    • TIME

      Vaksal, Great post.

      Saddly when “Crimminals” run the country we are at their mercy. Now just how bloody sad is that? We have a really screwed up nation as anyone with a nano grain of sanity can clearly see. Rather than look at the TRUTH or FACTS, no they would rather play the “DemO V RebO” game daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, and on and on. Whats some more stuff so you stay sleeping? How about a nice bottle of Stupid?

      Saddly I don’t think it can ever be repaired. Why, well our criminal leaders have build an Arsenal of weapons so that the citizens would stand no chance of ever winning let alone lets not forget UN TROOPS from say Egypt. Is the bloody light on yet?

      This is a rather grim out look I know but really you do the math, the odds are stacked and not in YOU’RE favor. Its all happened while everyone was drunk on the bottle of STUPID. Whats some more stuff so you stay stupid?

      Then there is always the possibility that if a large amount of states break away from the Union the union may well dislove, will that really help?
      Keep in mind that the same Crimminals that have run the country, they will still be there running each state. So again back to square one. Anyone can make a mistake now and then, thats only human, but to build on the first mistake and keep going time after time, its no longer a mistake its then “deliberate.”

      Perhaps as soon as the Middle east is 100% under the Muslim Brotherhoods control and crude is $200.00 plus a barrel from them. Thus making your gas at the pump $10.00 – $15.00 per gallon, thus inturn making your food cost 100 – 1000 Times what they are now.
      And you can’t afford to eat even one meal every other day, nor drive to work.
      Perhaps then the sheep will stop drinking from that bottle of stupid.

      Also MIND YOU – as we sit on more oil and natural Gas and Coal reserves right here under our soil in the United States, again remind me now just how’s that work again?
      Do any of You really think that paying some one to rape rob and kill you is in you’re best interest? Why is that?

      Perhaps the gaggle of the American public will wake up from their deep sleep from drinking from the bottle of stupid. You know the ones that are still at the weekend game {the DemO’s v the RebO’s.}

      How bloody sad that we as a nation have become “Educated IDIOTS.”

      • Aix Sponsa

        Interesting isn’t it, how the most outspoken trolls offer no viable solution. They just like to rant.

        • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

          VOTE INDEPENDENT!!!!!!!!!

          As valiant as an armed uprising might seem, as TIME pointed out, the military here is simply too strong, and too good at what they do, and let’s face it…we’re disgustingly outgunned.

          Besides that, why wait until it gets that bad??

          It seems to me that by voting either Democrat, OR Republican, is just EXACTLY what *they* (the infamous, *they*) expect us to do. And so it kinda just volleys back and forth between the two, and so blame gets shifted back and forth to either/or, depending on who you ask.

          Voting independent would be the one thing *they* wouldn’t expect…hell, no one would expect that.

          None of the politicians in the two parties seem to feel the need to be accountable anymore (or maybe they never did, with the exception of Kennedy…and look what *they* did to him), because they know they have a lifelong (cushy) job, and they seem determined to milk it (and the country) for all it’s worth.

          The politicians work for us, and it seems they have forgotten that.

          Why? Because we allowed them to…because they know they can just run again in 4 years, after they suck up 4 more years worth of taxpayer dollars in their salaries (nice gig if you can get it, I suppose).

          I am *hoping* that the independents aren’t that way…that they got into politics because they actually care about the country, and the people, and want to make things better for the whole country, as opposed to just their own companies, cronies, and families.

          • Patriot66

            I agree. I’ve been voting for over 30 years now and have never voted for a dem or Rep, I’ve seen the game long ago. As long as everyone keeps voting for these creeps, things will continue as before, towards global enslavment. We the People need to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch. The only way to accomplish this is to get rational minded beings into office who actually represent US, and not just their own political agenda, or that of their financiers. Revolution would be nice too, as long as we maintained freedom after if we won… I don’t think that has been accomplished is man’s history yet. Ever, not even in the U.S.

        • Mary

          Solution?. A little to late. We are a broken country in all the aspects.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          out spoken trolls,look at the facts,convicted felons are more likely to be repeat offenders,and if this new york billionaire has so much time and money on his hands,he should be taking care of his own bussiness in his own state,folks that call others trolls,evidently have a problem with those who express the real point of the issue at hand,and that is dont ask anyone to do,what you yourself wont do,and that is a very reasonable statement,get the point,free speech.oh and by the way if this liberal communist jerk(bloomberg) looked at the truth,he should look at the border,and get federal troops down their to seal it,but no the answer is abridge the law of the land,(THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION)the 2nd amendment,with more liberal horse poop,and who will be able to say no to them later after the fact of these morons in government who think we the american citizen can be pushed around by these self serving thugs pushing these type of communist agendas,the point is they should be held at the same exact rules as they wish to push on the american people.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            the post i posted was directed at axe sponsa,ad homien attack,you have just shown you two faced agenda,read what this guy posted down the line,in this discussion.talk about dum and dummer.

        • uncldom

          The first thing to do is send the 20,000,000 Illegals Home. They are taking our jobs.
          Open oil drilling to create and replace jobs lost. this would also wean us off foreign oil, which sends billions of dollars to our enemies.
          Build nuclear reactors. France uses primarily nuclear, it is safe and effective.
          Build clean coal plants.
          Restart our steel industry.
          Manage our forests. Cut and replant trees. This would prevent forest fires. Lower building costs.Use the underbrush to make cellulose products.Lower polution from the millions of tons of carbon spewing into the air from the ships that transport oil and lumber from other countries.
          Get the government out of the way.
          “It’s The Jobs Stupid”.

      • 45caliber

        It seems that most liberals, in particular, insist that we must fear the UN troops – and the UN doesn’t have any.

        Even if they did, I seriously doubt that we would have much to worry about. Too many of them KNOW that Americans are armed and they have been told from birth about us. I’ve wondered several times if the politicans are not working to lower that awe of us since they tend to want to get into a war and then pull out after our military “loses” the war, trying to get across to the rest of the world that we are not undefeatable. Most forces working for the UN prefer to be safe in some walled area and hope the problem will work itself out without help.

        And those blue helmets certainly make excellent targets …

        • Aix Sponsa

          You are babbeling Sir. My son is a high ranking US MP for a couple decades, and the blue hat situation is serious. Most US troops covertly refuse to wear a blue hat, even though they have been trained to do so. When the time comes, expect blue foreign troops in your cities. They have been trained in the USA for a couple decades for just that purpose.

          • TIME

            Aix,

            Great point, Nostradamus noted that the third Anit Christ would wear a Blue cap / hat. His troops would all wear such too.

            Keep in mind Nostradams lived in the 1500′s so what ever he saw he tried to explain in his period words.
            Just try and place you’re self in his shoes for a moment. How would you have told others of Air Planes in the 1500?

            Folks you all really need to step WAY out of the sheep pen, or what ever you call a place where you keep sheep.

          • JC

            Which means that anyone in uniform attcking an American, is not an American; therefore, fair game.

    • Bruce D.

      Good one Vaksal. If Bloomburg was trying to help he would be pushing for a background check on Obama. The idea that Bloomberg is sticking his nose in Arizona gun laws only proves he is an enemy of the Constitution.

      • 45caliber

        He’s simply interested in getting rid of your guns – not his own.

      • POGO in AZ

        Bloomberg needs to stick his nose back up where the sun don’t shine and stay out of things that don’t concern his worthless new york ass. He’s a millionaire who, in his arrogance and ignorance, thinks everyone in the world should live by his arbitrary rules.

    • Al Sieber

      Good one vaksal, here in Ariz. I’ve only been asked for ID a few times at gun shows here, you can go to swap meets, or buy from private individuals through the newspaper, so is Bloomberg gonna be watching the want ads in Ariz. Newspapers next? he needs to stay in N.Y. where he belongs. there’s talk in Ariz. about seceding from the union.

      • Dr. Mabuse

        Hey Al,
        I just wanted to thank you for the site you gave me yesterday.
        I downloaded the ebook on the Weimar Republic and its money woes and I also got some very valuable MP3s too. Most Americans (myself included) have had a distorted view of the Zionist question. To be sure, as the tensions in the middle east accelerate, we must be vigilant and armed with the right information. Perhaps when you have time, we can discuss Koestler’s “The Thirteenth Tribe” , as well as any other issues you think might be enlightening. Much respect man.

        • Al Sieber

          Hey Doc, glad you checked it out, most people won’t, they’re afraid of the truth.

      • marvin

        Al Sieber
        all i can say is right on ,when you have nuts like bloming idoit and and rape you dailey in chy town and a oguffs in the nut sorry white house and lie to you nepolitano,or just sue the state holder what a great country

        • Al Sieber

          marvin, Mayor Bloomberg should take care of his own city, people robbing citizens at gun point point in NYC., he needs to take care of his own city and stay out of my state.

          • Dan az

            Couldn’t agree more Al.What is a mayor from NY doing in AZ in the first place?For a state that has no guns aloud any where they sure have allot of homicides.

    • Van

      Yes, and we all found out how effective “background checks” are when “American” Major, Nidal Hassan opened fire on a group of unarmed soldiers at Ft. Hood, slaying many, leaving behind countless loved ones and their future generations to grieve. He is rewarded with 3 square meals in a climate controlled facility in Belton Texas, medical care at the expense of the US taxpayer, and the continued payments of his monthly officer’s salary. Is that a terrorist I hear laughing in the background? Oh, and let’s not forget: We, as a country, have a leader who has chosen to release minutia detail – not even a CERTIFIED birth certificate – regarding who he is. No doubt, he would refuse to have a criminal background check. I suppose that’s one of the many perks of running a monarchy in what is supposed to be a republic.

    • JUKEBOX

      I agree, and add when we are shown Obama’s genuine birth certificate or any of his passport and school records.

    • EddieW

      This corrupt and evil man is intent on destroying this country, in order to bring in the New World Order, which shall bed an old form of Tryanny!!! Even now, we are headed for a POlice State, and DHS is pushing it, doing exactly what both Hitler & Stalin did to bring it in…have neighbor spy on neighbor, and Walmart is pushing it too! The FBI has asked Garbage collectors to also spy on you!!! I hope I don’t live even a few more years!!!

    • Peter

      Bloomberg tried the same crap in Virginia. The Virginia Attorney General told him Virginia would arrest any of his “investigators” if they tried it again in Virginia — and that Virginia would sue Bloomberg and New York City. Fight fire with fire!

  • s c

    Interesting. So Bubba Bloomberg is worried about ‘criminals and the mentally ill.’ Me, too, Bubba. I’m worried that we have so many criminals and mentally ill folks in Congress that the Constitution is just a piece of paper.
    Bubba Bloomberg doesn’t live in a border state. His ‘investigation’ proves nothing, and I’m enough of a doubter that this is his way of positioning his sorry rump to try and get into the White House in the near future.
    Imagine that. A progressive who poses as a ‘Republican’ is concerned that federal gun laws aren’t tight enough. Bubba, I know you don’t care. You’re a part of the problem. Whiz off.

    • Fay

      I wonder how the People of New York City like Their money being spent like this. what right does He think He has coming to Arizona and telling other People what to do. Bubba fits Him and a lot more. stay away from Arizona if You don’t like Our laws. We do. I won’t say any thing against New York laws that way either.

      • marvin

        Fay
        was it not in new york where the cops fired around 25 times and killed[murdered] a blackman holding up his wallet, and was it not in new yuck city where the cop murdered a blackman the night befor his wedding firing about 60 rounds, and him with no gun, my my sounds like blumburgler needs to send his investigators to his own back yard or to atlanta where cop kick the door in on a 82 year old woman murdered her then not finding any drugs tryed to plant some drugs, bad thing she could not see good enuf to hit what she was shooting at the crooked cops

        • Al Sieber

          marvin, you got that right, 10 or 15 years ago, I might be a little off on the time frame.

      • JUKEBOX

        It would probably be more effective if Blumberg passed a law that required any legal citizen withour a felony conviction to buy and carry a handgun. I know for a fact that this would bring the crime rate down.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Fay, the “study” was done in AZ by AZ. Bloomberg is just commenting.

        • Al Sieber

          Come on Aix, he should take care of the crime in his own state, and leave us alone.

    • Louie

      I don’t really need the Constitution…I was born with my rights. I protect myself. I might become overwhelmed, but I’ll get quite a few of them before they get me.

      • RivahMitch

        Ditto!!

        Churchill said it for us:

        “If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

        A free man can be destroyed but never defeated.

      • Roger

        You have that right. I’m with you.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Louie, if they are coming to get you or your weapons, there will be at least 3 in full tactical gear. You won’t get anything but dead. Remember it is usually better to live to fight another day.

        • Al Sieber

          Not when they’re coming down your road Aix.

          • Dan az

            Hey Al
            You got that right I have yet to see any body armor stop a 50 cal.Have you?

          • Al Sieber

            Me either Dan, maybe a 5′ thick rock wall.

    • 45caliber

      Bloomberg is supposed to be running one of the largest cities in the country. It also has some of the highest crime rates in the country. So what does he do? He meddles in AZ. I think he needs to take care of his own problems first. Then someone might actually care to listen to him.

      • JUKEBOX

        He needs to be made to walk around Tucson, Phoenix, and Glendale with a large sign around his neck saying, “I AM NOT CARRYING A WEAPON”.

        • 45caliber

          Let him do that in NYC and see how far he’d get.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Or NYC metro area. Just pick a city. They all fit the bill.

        • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

          @JUKEBOX – Why would he go through all that trouble?

          All he needs to do is have Sarah Palin’s tea-bagging flunkie propaganda team put a picture up on Palin’s website of Bloomberg with a set of cross-hairs over his face or chest, with the caption ‘Take Aim’ on the top.

          Then, some mindless far-right minion would take care of the rest.

          • independant thinker

            Even more likely to happen if the far left Daily Kos put a target on him and a liberal shot him.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dogma,
            i it was truly a mindless one, it would have to be YOU. They just don’t get any more mindless than that!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            I really do not think it is a good idea to post comments about killing anyone, whether they are Democrat or Republican. This kind of garbage talk only incites the wackos out there. I do not want any President or politician to get shot. I would think the recent shooting of Giffords and the other people would make people stop and think about this before they shoot off their mouths.

          • JUKEBOX

            Which is worse, to be mindless or to have a terminal case of rectal cranial inversion as you apparently do?

          • http://deleted Claire

            JUKEBOX: Are you referring to me?

          • uncldom

            Teabagging is a sexual act where a man dips his ball sack in another persons mouth. Both parties practice this. Republicans do it with women and Democrats and Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity do it with another man.

          • JC

            There goes Dogma-Fed again…painting his pretty (sick) pictures for us all to see. To see just how twisted an individual he really is, I mean…

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Bloombutt needs to Mind his own business and not GRANDSTAND an issue as usual to gain attention. Watch..this scumbag will be the Democratic candidate in 2012 of after..

  • Jamie

    You mean the way George Bush posed as a Republican??? Bubba?? I’ve never heard of a New Yorker being called Bubba. So Republicans like vidoes made against ACORN but not when it shows them selling criminals guns. Imagine that.

    • Raggs

      There is NO proof this video was on the up and up… I figure it was set up…

      • independant thinker

        Would not suprise me at all if the “seller” was a Bloomberg plant instructed to do exactly as he did.

        • JUKEBOX

          With his billions, that is a distinct possibility. I love the way liberal Billionaires want to run everyone”s lives.

          • Jamie

            You mean like the Koch brothers…holding the ultra secret meeting with only the richest of the rich invited…no press allowed…i wonder what there planning?? I’m sure its not to control anything…like elections or nothing like that.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Jamie– The Koch Brothers are major contributors to the Tea Party and the Republican party. Apparently you already know that.

          • JUKEBOX

            No, I was referring to George Soros, Blumberg, John Kerry, Dianne Blum Feinberg,etc.

    • http://att Shirley

      I don’t believe people who are selling guns, are receiving tax payers money, unlike Acorn and Planned Parent Hood that are funded by tax payers money!!!!

      • JUKEBOX

        Who has killed more innocent unborn babies, gun owners or Planned Parenthood?

        • Jamie

          no one kills babies…they abort a fetus…big difference in a live breathing baby and a fetus.

          • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

            I would rather have a fetus aborted, than to have it brought into a world where ‘little rapist junior’ will not be loved and cared for.

            Or where the girl/woman with the raped vagina – and subsequent demon-spawn wanting to take up in her womb – would have to live with a constant reminder of what must have been a horrific and traumatic experience for her.
            Again, I have never been raped, but I would have to imagine it’s not a joyful, blessed experience.

            Now, I know that not every abortion was because the pregnancy was the result of rape.

            Some may have been the result of incest.

            Imagine for a minute, if you will, that you’re trying to explain to your baby’s daddy was also your own daddy…except that you’re also your baby’s momma…I mean, that might fly in some of the extremely red-neck states, but in the rest of the country, that is considered to be some very messed up sh!t.

          • http://Juno Ken

            Jamie shows her ignorance. Fetus is Latin for baby and they are both living souls. A Baby having been birthed can breath on their own, unless while they are being delivered their brains are sucked out for money, while a Fetus is growing, developing for life outside the womb. That is if their can out run the Planned Parent Hood doctors Knife. Its a crying shame that all the people, who support these gruesome, murderous acts currently being carried out on these innocent little ones, were themselves not aborted when their mom’s had the opportunity to do so. Say maybe we could ask Supreme Court to make the abortion law they passed retroactive so the adult supporters including themselves could be lined up and their brains sucked out of their heads seeing how they don’t seem to use it anyhow. Lets remove Bloomberg’s problem with Arizona by giving him to the Apaches and allow them to find a large red ant hill and use loads of sweet sticky stuff to cloth his naked body with. There his problem would be solved.

          • libertytrain

            Dogma – what are the (as you say it in your slurred form) “redneck” states. Do you have these states in your country or are you just slurring ours?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dogma,
            Gee dogma guess what out of 150 million abortions since it passed, the majority of them were just plain “convenience” abortions. No rape, no incest, just “it’s not convenient to have a baby now!!” Then keep your dam legs closed!! and keep junior INSIDE the zipper!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            Jamie–You are entitled to your opinion. However, I am a person that believes a fetus IS an unborn human being. I do not believe in abortion-only if the mother’s life/health is at stake, incest, and rape. Incest and rape? This bothers me, I just don’t think I would want a baby out of some lowlife creep. If I was ever in that situation, I may have had an abortion, but then I would think of the word “murder.” Tough call.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Rednecks?? Hmmm, I guess I am a redneck too. Especially since I have a lot of friends that live in the southern states. I have been to all the southern states showing my dogs and I have these words to say: Southern hospitality and southern food—wonderful!!
            BTW– I am a yankee but I love the south!

          • http://deleted Claire

            JoeHH— LOL!!! Good comeback!! Truer words were never spoken!! Good for you!

          • JC

            Liberty, Dogma-Fed is a bigot with a really sick mind.
            Pay no attention.

          • libertytrain

            Heck, he’s not even an American.

        • JUKEBOX

          I guess Jamie didn’t see the news story the other day, where the ABORTION DOCTOR was indicted for murder, where he was severing the spinal cord of his failed abortions with a pair of sterilized scissors!

          • http://deleted Claire

            JUKEBOX–Oh, that man should be strung up by his you no know whats! The filthy horrible creep. Give him the death penalty, no that is too easy. He should be made to suffer, and he will when he gets to hell. Dang, I can’t imagine the horrible stuff that goes on.

          • Jamie

            OK Jukebox i’ll use your logic…a bad doctor does something he shouldn’t have done so we need to outlaw ABORTION…well way more bad people use guns…why not outlaw GUNS?? No answer…you don’t look at the same way do you…you want your individual rights but don’t want women to have theres…i think thats called a hypocrite jukebox…but i’m sure thats not the first time you’ve been called that…and it won’t be the last.

    • Bruce D.

      Let Arizona take care of its own problems and New York take care of their problems which are considerable. Arizona is under attack by the Federal Government, Bloomberg, and others for their desire to protect themselves. Let Bloomburg go live on that border for a while where they are trafficking drugs and illegal aliens and he would not be so arrogant.

      • Patsy

        Agree!!! From a native Arizonan.

        • Aix Sponsa

          That’s “Arizonian”.

          • Mac

            Arizonan is correct. Patsy is correct to call herself “Arizonan.”

      • eddie47d

        So you want to be tough on illegals but endorse illegal gun sales. Since Arizona gun stores have already been busted for selling illegal guns and those weapons end up in Mexico maybe you are part of the problem. Maybe you need to clean up your illegal gun activity at gun shows and a few gun dealers before you go after this Mayor’s group.( which is a non-profit org.)

        • Brad

          You see folks Eddie neglects to mention the drug cartels employ clean criminals to go into legal gun shops purchase said weapon and then turn them over to the cartels and then smuggled back across the border. Sure the sale of weapons has been documented in the US and they have made there way into mexico, but would a legal citizen of the US sell their weapon with the chance of getting caught by BATF or the FBI. Again eddie bring zero proof to the table only his personal opinion, because opinions are just like azzholes, everybody has one and eddie yours stinks. Come back again when you have proof and next time don’t put words into some ones mouth that they didn’t say.

          • eddie47d

            I brought that up about a month ago and had proof. You’ll have to do your own research this time.It was about a legal gun dealer in Phoenix(X-Caliber Guns). They were tracing guns found in Mexico back to Arizona and low and behold they came from this store. Surprise,Surprise! So they (ATF) pulled a sting and went in there and bought automatic weapons and even said they would be taken to Mexico. They bought the guns and walked out of the store. Easy as pie and no questions asked. It seems like Arizona has more than an illegal immigrant problem. So you need to read more and surf the net on top of that.

          • Brad

            Edwardo,

            Dude if you did your reseaerch a month ago as you claim, you would know the judge in the case dismissed all charges against the owner of X-Caliber! That was back in 2009, BATF tried to retry the owner but the district attourney wouldn’t re-prosicute the case. What I got from the case, BATF tried to go after a legal gun shop owner because weapons he sold ended up across the border and in the hands of the drug cartel.

            The truth did come out two young men who bought said weapons were giving them to two brothers who in turn would smuggle the weapons across the border into Mexico. The said delivery of weapons from one party to another who is not authorised to have weapons is illegal. Also since said weapons did cross the border that’s also illegal, so eddie why didn’t you know the truth. Is it just the liberal mind set that a law abiding citizen has to be prosecuted off of the word of a criminal. I read the entire story but there was no video and it stated in the write up I read, during the investigation the kid buying weapons from the owner asked very miss leading questions, hense the gov trying to get an innocent gun shop owner convicted of a crime.

            Try again edwardo, lets see what lie’s you can come up with next.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            care to answer that???

          • Dan az

            Brad
            I applaud you well done and said and Joe you know the answer to that one.

          • eddie47d

            X-Caliber wasn’t innocent just like several criminals get away with their crimes. Poor police work,too costly to prosecute,too much pressure from pro-gun groups.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie, eddie, eddie!!
            How about some PROOF on that stance!!!

        • JUKEBOX

          There is not one city in our nation that does not have at least one illegal gun sale per day.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Maybe Los Angeles. Isn’t it a fact that there is only ONE gun store left in the city proper?

    • Jim

      Jamie, where do you get from the article that guns were sold to criminals? The only folks who bought guns were Bloombergs cronies, are you saying they are criminals or just misplaced progressives? The real story should show how the crime rate keeps going up in his city,maybe they should investigate how all those criminals got there guns, I’ll bet the didn’t get them in Arizona.

      • Jamie

        The man on the video said he couldn’t pass a background check the the seller said he didn’t have to…he just needs an ID…it doesn’t even have to be a valid ID…just and ID…and no one makes fake ID’s anymore do they. The crime rate in NYC is at a all time low. Maybe there is something to theis gun control stuff after all.

        • Ted Crawford

          That’s because the criminals are leaving for California. Bloomberg now takes all the illegal action and money and they can’t get their share.

        • JUKEBOX

          I am sure none of those 12 million illegal aliens have any kind of fake ID, HAHAHAHAHA!

        • independant thinker

          ” The crime rate in NYC is at a all time low.”

          The crime rate in ALL of the USA is at an all time low especialy in places with much fewer gun control laws.

      • Jamie

        Jim think of it this way…who has a lower crime rate?? NY or Arizona?The last i heard arizona was dealing with much more criminal activity than NY and NY has probably at least 4 to 5 million more people in it than Arizona. Looks like Arizona could learn a thing or two from NY to me.

        • Ted Crawford

          The reason for the crime rate in Arizona is illegals. Obama and Janet have walked away from securing the border and left Arizona to deal with it, after first tieing their hands with a law suit!

          • Jamie

            So who tied Arizona’s hands before Obama got in office?? Last time i checked Arizona was a free state and could write there own laws. If they want to build a fence and arm it with the Arizona national guard. But like you they just keep making up excuses of why they can’t.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Hey jamie,
            Are you that darn dum or is tonight an exception?? Arizona had been begging the feds for years to secure the border and when they finally had enough and TRIED to do something about it the feds, led by Nobummer sued them. Pick your brain up out of the dirt and quit playing with it, dude!!!

          • JC

            Joe, jamie is one of those liberals who imagines whatever they have to in order to paint their very distorted picture…in other words, mentally disturbed and disconnected.

          • JUKEBOX

            Apparently it was Homeland Security Chief Napolitano, while she was governor and had the power, but not the will to do it. She was always complaining about not getting any help from the Feds during her term.

        • Doug

          Hey Jamie how about we put NY on the border and see how you do! I lived in NY you can have it talk about corruption your just behind Chicago you like being a sheepie don’t you!

          • Jamie

            I live in South Carolina Doug. Just commenting on the obvious. The GOP wants to give guns to criminals. If they didn’t then they wouldn’t mind a simple backgground check. Talk about sheep Doug. Your party is the party of elites you rail against in this post. The GOP is the reason the top 1% will make 60 cent of every dollar made in the USA this year. In 2000 they made 48 cent of every dollar. Your the sheep here Doug.

          • Jamie

            OH and by the way Doug if you knew anything about our country you’d already know NY is already on the border the Canadian border. So we don’t have to move it now do we Doug.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Jamie, your dollar viewpoint is grossly overstated. The major question is why are you fending class warfare against the rich? Should they be penalized for the ability to make money? Are you just mad that you are not capable of making money? Be realistic. If the rich didn’t invest their money somewhere or somehow, the country would come to a stop. Their money works for all of us, whether or not the rich just invest it in the market, or actually build infrastructure to create jobs. Taking rich people’s money in order to support big money is like standing in a bucket of water and trying to pick yourself up.

          • Aix Sponsa

            That should read- taking money to support big GOVERNMENT. Government doesn’t produce anything tangible. It only sucks up money and recirculates it.

          • JC

            jamie? The GOP “wants” to give guns to criminals?
            Having a heavy Meth night?

          • JUKEBOX

            Hey Jamie, do you support giving guns to criminals without a background check?

        • 45caliber

          Jamie:

          You need to do some more checking. NYC is one of the top crime places in the country and has some of the strongest gun control as well. AZ has crime problems, all right – and most of them are related to the illegals coming across the border with the President’s permission and aid. Many AZ citizens carry and the illegals don’t like it. So they complain and people like Bloomberg listen.

          • Jamie

            Listening to your logic i guess the illigals had Bush’s permission and aid to come across too??

          • 45caliber

            I don’t know if they did or not. Maybe. However when Oblama gave them an entire national park in AZ to help them get in by forbidding anyone from entering it, I’d say they certainly do have his permission.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Let’s cut to the heart of the matter. Impoverished immigrants and illegals of all ilk, ARE the major source of crime throughout the USA. I will not exclude the impecunious illiterate with multigenerational and racial attitude problems. They are the major cause of disruptions in malls, wallyworld, and blocking the doors at the convenience stores, finding it humorous to intimidate people. They demand “equality” as long as it does not mean that THEY have to articulate American English, act with manners, and exhibit personal integrity in their lifestyles. Racist? No, I am a “socialist” = one who abhores their anti-social behaviour.

          • JC

            jamie, you shouldn’t use the word “logic” until you know what it means.
            All 45 did was state a fact.

        • JUKEBOX

          NYC needs someone like Sheriff Joe, not a pacifist wimp.

      • eddie47d

        Arizona wasn’t the point of the sting operation. It could have been New Mexico or Missouri.It was to prove how easy it is to buy a weapon and almost anyone can do it. It also proved that gun show seller are willing to break the law to make a buck. They are not as responsible or “law abiding citizens” as you had imagined. Bloomberg’s point in answer to your question is that all handgun murders in NYC come from guns from other States. These guns could be stolen or from gun shows or in some cases immoral gun dealers.Manufacturers of guns are usually not part of the problem.They distribute their product (like any business) to stores. Most are responsible and abide by the local laws. It’s easy to prosecute criminals who use legal or illegal guns but not so easy to prosecute the illegal sellers of those guns. Bloomberg wants those traffickers stopped cold and to keep them from their illicit business. Actually most legal gun owners ,81% support reasonable laws for it helps their credibility in keeping their rights intact.

        • independant thinker

          That does not mean that 81% support more restrictive gun laws.

          Less than 1% of guns used in crimes come from gun shows.

          Bloomberg is so anti private posession of handguns I do not doubt he arranged for the “seller” to be at the show with instructuions to act as he did>

          • Aix Sponsa

            Since there is almost ZERO ways to trace a gun, how can anyone make that statement about guns coming from gun shows? The general public has no conception about how the so-called “gun tracing system” works, and what is done when someone purchases a weapon. The GP also is ignorant of what the BATF instant check system actually is. The Arizona Assassin bought the gun legally.

          • eddie47d

            That is why they have these surprise stings to prove what they already know. If you want us to believe your version then that will only prove how lax and uncontrolled gun purchases can be.Which means that could be another loophole that needs to be plugged. Now I doubt if that will ever happen but you certainly don’t care who buys a gun or for any reason given. So if guns aren’t traceable then maybe they should be?? I know they can be traced back to the manufacturer but that is not the problem. So what laws do you approve of to catch those “criminals”.

          • JC

            There goes eddie with his, check this, tag that register these, chip that…he wants us all to be a herd of sheep that can be tracked down anywhere anytime for any reason at all…good or bad.
            No thanks commie boy.
            Privacy is a right.

          • Dan az

            Edward
            Do you think that a criminal will register a gun for his trade?No I didnt think so because he can get one any where he wants to steal it!So you think if it where registered then the owner might get it back after the crime right?How thoughtful of you!You believe that the gun committed the crime so they should all be locked up!The gun is a tool nothing more its only as good a tool as you make it.Now for your question the way to stop the crime is use you tools to stop it in its tracks.Simple really aim between the eyes problem solved.

          • eddie47d

            I expected the same lame answer about Rights. Then the one about taking aim and hitting them between the eyes. You brilliance is amazing.

        • TIME

          Eddie,

          Gun show sellers will do anything to make a buck!
          Wow, so what do you think Governemt officials will do to make a BUCK?

          Oh, I forgot, just about anything! To include tax its citizens to death, Make it impossible to work, or start a business, (aka) the American dream to own you’re own business to be independant.
          Sell out its citizens for a profit, but thats ok, right?

          Yea those damm Gun Show folks, to think that they may wish to make a living or a profit what scum bags they are.

          But its ok for Congress & the Senate to steal from you?
          Lets see they go to DC middle class and come out with millions in their bank accounts, from Payola.
          Plus a ski home, a beach home, plus a new home paid for in full, new cars for life, Oh and a salary of no less than $175K for life with adjustments for inflation. Plus their kids get educated for free, and just about anything they want or need is on the table for thier taking.

          But hey those damm Gun Show SOB’S how dare they make a few bucks.

          Lets not forget our Great Past Presie Bill Clinton, who left the WH with a Bank accound of just about $53,000.00 yet in just eight short years he and Hillie were able to turn that into $135 MILLION dollars.
          Now thats some kind of investment minds there.
          So why is it they can’t seem to do that for the country?

          So thats ok, right? Even if Bill say was responcible for many thousands of guns being GIVEN away to rebbels in lands that HATE US?

          Oh and paid for with YOU’RE tax dollars, So be dammed these SOB’s at gun shows. let’s get out some rope and hang them real high so all can see what happens to them SOB’S.

          Put down the bottle of Stupid will you.

          • eddie47d

            Remember you are the one who called them SOBs not me. You went so far off the issue so that was alot of smoke and mirrors and nothing else.

          • TIME

            Eddie,

            Thats whats known in the real world as “CAUSTIC HUMOR” when I refered them as SOB’S.
            But you’re responce back was what is known as “Passive Agressive behavior.” But I am not playing that game with you.

            Now how fun is that as well please note I was more on target, OMG ~ I used a bad word, “Target” Now don’t go and shoot anyone Eddie?

            That by the way again was “CAUSTIC HUMOR” so I am pointing that out for you so you don’t become confused.

            Again I was very on target as a matter of fact SPOT ON.

            When you follow CRIMINALS who tell you what behavior is within reason, aka “GOVERNMNET OFFICIALS,” Then you have real problems, but when the media’s complicity with such criminals ~ thats when one needs to have “the clear view from out of the liitle box of sheepie.”

            I hope I have made that easy enough to understand.

          • eddie47d

            More caustic smoke and mirrors from the king of smoke …and mirrors.

          • TIME

            Eddie,
            I can’t help myself so I am responding to yet one more of you’re post saddly its value is spot on.
            ” It seems you never make a post without subtracting from the sun of human knowledge.”

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Time,
            Too late, he drank the whole bottle!!!

        • Doug

          Eddie you crawed out from under your rock again. I wish some would just cover it with dirt so idiots like you can’t get out. If someone wants a gun they can buy one any day of the week from the black market you idiot why don’t you worry about why your brain can’t comprehend adult conversation!

          • eddie47d

            You must be one of those black market dealers trying to defend your turf.Those dealers are the ones who crawled out from under those rocks.Go join them and be quick about it.

          • JUKEBOX

            If guns are banned, I wonder how long it will take Eddie to learn, when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Probably, when one of the illegal gun owners helps him to his grave!

          • eddie47d

            You see how the conversation always goes from illegal gun purchases to banning all guns. That is why you’re not credible. Stay on “target” and you might get somewhere instead of more smoke and mirrors.

          • Bruce D.

            There is a reason for that Eddie. Progressives do things in increments to condition the people to their way of thinking.

          • JC

            Wow…eddies really been into the cool-aid tonight.
            “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED”
            Get it yet, commie boy?

          • JUKEBOX

            I believe Eddie is envious of people who can buy a gun legally, or he might be envious of those who can buy a gun illegally.

          • eddie47d

            JC;Go kick your dog because I’m not buying your crap.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I don’t think JC or anybody else here but you kicks dogs!! I only say that as YOU were the one to bring up the thought!!

        • 45caliber

          Since they don’t sell guns in NYC, I would certainly believe that the guns used there in crimes comes from outside it. Not that it matters. Criminals don’t buy guns from dealers or at gun shows. This is a tool of their business. They don’t want it traced anywhere. Most guns are shipped in from outside the US.

          • eddie47d

            Oh Please not that dizzy B.S. story again. Duck and cover-duck and cover!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            the only dizzy BS I see is, unfortunately, YOU!!

          • kate8

            eddie, Are you really that naive? That guns are illegally shipped into the US every day is FACT. And the only ones we actually know about are the ones that have been discovered, which are many.

            Criminals and militant foreign nationals don’t purchase guns legally, and they won’t turn them in. Who do you think is going to protect you when criminals are the only ones with guns?

            This whole argument is stupid. Either we have the right to defend ourselves or we don’t, because taking legal guns will only open a huge playing field for those who don’t give a rip about the law.

          • JC

            Note that eddie boy gives no reason WHY that story would be BS?
            Talk about “duck and cover”. (diversion tactics)

      • Aix Sponsa

        Jim, Bloomberg has commented about an ARIZONA STUDY. Nobody from NY went to AZ that I am aware of.

      • Aix Sponsa

        So are you saying that those buyers in AZ were employees of NY Bloomberg, or that he used under table money to by cronies in AZ?

        • JUKEBOX

          The Golden Rule applies here: “THEM THAT HAS THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES”.

    • always right

      hey jamie, the ACORN swine were actually commiting crimes, i.e., aiding and abetting in child slavery, child prostitution, human trafficking, conspiracy to commit and tax fraud. Selling a gun to a shill who says he “might not” pass a background check is not a crime. There’s a world of difference between committing a stack of felonies, which weren’t prosecuted ONLY because Holder is a black racist and ACORN is a black racist organization who helped to put barry the black racist kenyan into office, and selling a gum legally to some who states that he “might not” pass a background check. “Might not” hardly constitutes a “preponderance of the evidence” nor “beyond a reasonable doubt”.
      I think it should be illegal to sell guns to gliberals, NYNY hicks delusional, foam-flecked fools/progressives/Marxists-Leninists/communists/muslims/atheists/socialists/moderates/ demoncraps and demoncrap poll-i-ticians. That would take care of 99% of the gun crimes out there. That boy was one of yours, jamie.

      • Jamie

        So every black persons a racist now Always Wrong…what and idoit you are…your statement sounded like you had a problem with black folks Wrong…i promise you more blacks and native americans have been discrimiated agains than white’s Always Wrong. But you keep spreading that hate…you and Rush HOMO Limbaugh…the closet conservitive that paid an Aussie homo a million $ to sing at his so called wedding…he hates America so much he couldn’t even hire a American HOMO to sing for him.

        • Aix Sponsa

          “ad hominem” attack. Did I spell that right?
          Ad hominem abuse (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one’s opponent in order to invalidate his or her argument. wikipedia

      • eddie47d

        Wow another problem solver and more delusional trash from a trash mouth. Acorn got busted for doing wrong and lost it’s funding. So fair play would be to close down all gun shows and illegal dealers who can’t abide by the laws. Okay Pardner!

        • JC

          The words of a complete and total communist.

          • eddie47d

            …and you are a complete ignorant fool. Now go and shoot the neighbors cat you darn clown.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            Damn man what is it that you hate about peoples pets??? have you always had this hatred? Or did it start when you were a kid and your folks wouldn’t let you have one??

      • 45caliber

        The fact that the shill “might not” pass a check was evidently wrong since I’m certain the gun dealer called to check. And if he passed, there was no reason not to sell him one. Now if the shill had said, “I plan to take my gun down to the nearest gradeschool and see how many little children I can kill”, the gun dealer would probably have not sold it to him – and would have called the police.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Technically, if a gun buyer says to the dealer, “I’m giving this to my wife for a birthday present”, the dealer cannot legally sell him the gun. If the dealer continues the sale, the dealer is guilty of a felony, and so is the buyer. Read the 4473 Form very carefully.

          • Aix Sponsa

            My very good friend is an FFL dealer/store. He goes through every question with the buyer. IF the buyer states that the gun is being purchased for someone else’s use, he stops them. I have heard him tell buyers. “You cannot do that. To protect myself I must ask you to bring your wife in and have her fill out this form.” He absolutely protects himself legally in every aspect of every transaction. period. 20 yrs in business. All it takes is one slip to be wiped out financially and go to jail because of some hot-shot BATF agent.

      • JUKEBOX

        You are wrong about Obama being a black racist. He’s not a real black, only half assed, but he is a racist.

        • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

          @JUKEBOX – hahaha…Obama’s skin colour *really* matters to you, doesn’t it…?

          haha…it sure sounds like it does. Like it really gets under your lily-white skin, and just eats you to the core…

          • Jamie

            Yea he doesn’t like having a black man in the White house at all…he’s to good to have a black man as his leader…he’d rather have a silver spooned D student who would have ended up a homeless man if his last name wasn’t Bush…coked up alcholic could have never got elected president if he was a democrat…but since he’s a Republican the religous right looked the other way.

          • libertytrain

            Dogma – I’m not quite sure why you care about what happens in this Country – surely there are enough blog sites in yours.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dogma,
            Oh brainless one, I’m sure you know for a fact that the person you are posting to IS lilly white??? I know Blacks that are saying the very same thing!!! Perhaps it would be better for you to keep your brainless comments in Canada!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            I don’t give a damn if the president is black, white, half-black, half-white, or blue. Color makes no difference to me.

          • JUKEBOX

            Can any of you pseudo intellectuals tell me what percentage of a person’s DNA qualifies him to be called BLACK? What I have a problem with is his constant refusal to tell the truth about his life before he was a “Community Organizer”

          • http://deleted Claire

            Psuedo-intellectuals? Are you talking to yourself again? Get a grip, I didn’t calll Obama black. I didn’t even mention his name.

          • JC

            Jamie, the only problem I have with Obama pretending to be black is that he is a racist. He is half white, half black and all about destroying America, which is largely a white nation.
            I know a few (actual) black people who also see the Kenyan Imposter for what he is, and it has nothing to do with race.

    • marvin

      Jamie
      you said selling to criminals can you prove that with fact or are you like all brain dead liberals

      • Jamie

        The man said he didn’t need a background check…meaning he didn’t care if the guy was a criminal or not…as long as he had the cash for the gun…thats all he cared about.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          jamie,
          and you were there to know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the seller didn’t do a check anyway???

          • Jamie

            No Joe H the dealer said he didn’t need a background check…so why would he do one?? He was only interested in making a sell an moving on to the next customer…like anyone else selling anything else…dim witt.

          • JC

            If the so called President doesn’t need a background check…why should anyone else?
            (save for criminals and the insane)

  • Kevin

    Here’s the first thing: Why are New Yorkers in Arizona?
    In the videos,
    They entrapped the sellers in all cases!
    All of them (sellers) asked for an ARIZONA drivers license to validate residency.
    Somehow, these NEW YORK “investigators” produced an ARIZONA Id of some sort.
    THAT IS ENTRAPMENT. That is lying. That is UNLAWFUL!
    If they would have said they don’t have an Arizona Id of any kind, and they still sold to them, then they would have something!
    I, for one am sock and tired of reading story after story, where the results of so called “stings” are rigged to the point of american stupidity.
    Mad as hell and not going to take it anymore …

    • Fay

      Amen and Amen

    • eddie47d

      Yes it was entrapment,but that wasn’t the point and no one was arrested or closed down. It did prove that these sellers were willing to break the law and the next time there won’t be any entrapment. They will use officials from Arizona and it will be done legally then they can prosecute. Kind of a warning “sting operation”. Officials know they don’t get far in court with entrapment but the next time those sellers better watch out. Actually,proving something before you go in and make an arrest is ingenious and smarter police work. Too often police make fools of themselves and cases get thrown out.

      • Bob from Calif

        All it proves is that Bloomberg and his flunkies will do anything to further their agenda, including breaking the law.

        • eddie47d

          IF they used Arizona undercover officials then it could all be legal. So far it seems they didn’t do anything illegal to get that information. The guys on the other side of the table did.

          • independant thinker

            But if they used Arizona undercover agents the guy would be in jail wouldn’t he? Of course he would because being Arizona agents they would have the right and obligation to enforce Arizona law. Since no arrest was made the logical conclusion is Bloomberg used the same NY agents he has used illegaly in other places.

          • eddy james

            I wonder if the mayor of New York used any of the 15 billion dollars he’s made off of new York to buy the guns in Arizona or did he bilk the tax payers again. The only crime I see that was committed was Bloomberg and his co-conspirators conspiring to buy firearms illegally and then transporting them across state lines. I wonder if they declared them when they flew back to New York which would be another crime.

    • always right

      Possession of a false Az. ID is a felony. False personation, particulalrly false personation with the intent to defraud or commit any other crime, is a felony. I hope Brewer’s AG nails these NYNY scum.

      • eddie47d

        If that can be proven you may have a point.They could have hired Arizonians before the sting and made it legal. If you want to play hard ball then how about getting Brewer and the Az Attorney General to follow up and arrest those sellers who were WILLING to sell to unauthorized persons. Both sides could have interesting cases going on. Let us know what you are going to do.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          eddie,
          by your own type of reasoning then perhaps the seller DID do a check after saying what he said, or HE would be in jail!!

          • eddie47d

            Sure didn’t and that was in the video. They weren’t there to arrest anyone just to prove that they are making illegal sales.

        • Dan az

          Edward
          Go back to sleep!

          • eddie47d

            Why, so you can run all over the facts.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Geez, look at this troll mess. How did you all come up with the idea that NY people were in AZ? Bloomberg is commenting on an AZ study.

  • http://personallibertydigest Frank

    Didn’t this piece of excrement from new york get into trouble doing this nonsense in Virginia and wasn’t he also told that if he or some of his investigators did this again, they’d be charged? I believe that states atty. general advised him of this; not to mention the atf as well because of possible ongoing investigations.
    Yeah new york city, you got a real piece of work for a mayor. By the way, how much did bloomberg pay to be able to run again? Just asking!

    • independant thinker

      You are correct. In fact if I remember correctly virginia passed a law specificaly prohibiting Bloomberg’s type of actions. If his henchmen go there again they will likely spend time in a Virginia prison.

    • eddy james

      Good point! I wonder how he got the city council to change a law limiting terms of office that was put into place by the people of New York? I imagine it was the old fashion democratic method of bribes and kick backs. or just ignore the law altogether.Laws who needs any stinking laws when you’ve got billions of dollars, and from whats been reported in the news 15-20 billion more since being re-elected this time…spread it around and you need to obey any laws.

  • 1minuteman

    maybe bloomberg is trying to take the focus off his muslim mosque at ground zero by joining the liberal bash party against arizona. they never pass up on a chance to trash the constituion.

    • eddie47d

      How Did they trash the Constitution? Breaking the law to sell guns is just that. Buying a gun legally is only a slight burden so why do you endorse those who skirt the law. 63% of those sellers were willing to sell to a criminal so who’s side are you on. Some of those sellers said “it didn’t matter to them”. It’s like someone breaking into your home and steals your TV. Then that person goes to the flea market and there he is selling that TV. He broke the law and making money off of it. Some Americans are tired of both scenario and a gun dealer who breaks the law is no hero.

      • Bruce D.

        Eddie unless you live in Arizona you should keep your mouth shut. It is none of your business what they do there. They can take care of themselves without your help. The last thing they need is another do gooder trying to tell them how to run their state. You and Bloomberg are another example of why States Rights are necessary.

      • Al Sieber

        eddie, so now the guns are stolen? come on, are you against private parties selling guns also? Bloomberg needs to stay out of my state. eddie, you must love living in N.Y..

      • eddie47d

        Bruce; I didn’t know you live there. It’s not important whether you live in Arizona or not.You rather proved Bloomberg’s issue on all the loose State laws and how easy it is to buy and transport guns across State lines. There are 500 other mayors on board with him so it’s not only an issue with NYC. He’s only your scapegoat but he is willing to take the heat in dealing with lax gun trafficking.

        • Bruce D.

          I don’t buy what your selling Eddie. Arizonia is a long way from New York. Your logic would have been more in your favor if Bloomberg was investigating NJ or Connecicut. The left are interested in banning guns and their plan is to do that in increments. The right to bear arms is under a constant assault from the left. I am not from AZ but they are trying to defend the country from illegals and libreral leftest policies. I have a duty to defend them and we all should be giving them support in anyway possible, especially public opinion which means a lot in this age.

        • marvin

          eddie47d
          more gun control great idea mexico has one mexican citizens can not own or have one so only ones with guns are cops and crooks and it is hard to tell who is who i have a better idea on gun control practice shooting tell you can hit what your shooting at 10 out of 10 times and blumburgler can stay out of alabama and arizona we don,t need people with more money then brains

          • eddie47d

            There is a Mayor in Alabama who supports this Mayors’ coalition.

        • eddy james

          name the 500 mayors! name 50 of them.there are at least twice that many who would rather see Bloomberg drop dead.

      • independant thinker

        “63% of those sellers were willing to sell to a criminal so who’s side are you on.”

        How long did it take you to make up this number. The article said ONE seller was possibly willing to sell them a gun it says nothing about how many other potential sellers were at the gun show or how many they talked to.

      • always right

        EXACTLY 0% of those sellers “sold to a criminal”, at least from a liabilty standpoint. The NYNY shills were in fact, felons, for possessing & presenting false Az. ID, but the sellers had no way of knowing that. Bloomingidiot should be prosecuted for conspiracy for having his shills acquire and present false AZ ID.

        • independant thinker

          Exactly.

        • eddie47d

          Now you are making stuff up. Of all the sellers at this gun show 63% of those confronted would be willing to sell to someone who says they want a gun for an illegal purpose. You should watch the full video. Not all gun sellers were approached so it could have been 63% of 10 dealers or maybe 20. It certainly wasn’t one seller who got caught.

      • Dan az

        Edward
        Do you know what our laws are here or what our state constitution says on this matter?
        Federal law requires anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer to undergo a background check, but that requirement does not apply to sales by individuals who aren’t dealers. Arizona’s law won’t change that.
        So the fact remains that you need to research before you make hypothetical statements that you have no clue on what your saying!

    • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

      @1minuteman – I thought you people were all for religious freedom in America…or is that only for *certain* religions…?

      • JC

        “you people”?….just another bigot mouthing off….

  • AnhydrousBob

    The article said:
    “On Jan. 31, Bloomberg said that the investigation proves that Federal gun control laws are ineffective at keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.”
    How right he is, if he would just listen to his own words. Does he think different laws would help? Of course he does.
    Let’s see, how does the saying attributed to Einstein go: “Doing the same thing, and expecting different results is insanity”

  • Doug

    Well you know if you wanted buy a gun from from someone other than a gun dealer because you were a criminal or mentally ill this would really stop that. Liberals really can’t think just like the war on drugs stop people from buying drugs to because it illegal.

    And thats a great idea lets make any govt. employee pass a drug test and a lie detector and have a complete back ground check. The Govt does such a great job at this that why we have and illegal allien sitting in the president seat!

    And look at NY they really run a tight ship there don’t they!

    • Doctor XIV

      LOL! Only laughing because this resembles something from a Three Stooges movie. (Bloomber, Reid and bo).

      When Reagan was shot, did he call for more draconian gun laws? How about Jefferson (I know her wssn’t shot). Gotta wonder about Lincoln, though, Hmmmm? Since the ONLY way to assassinate him was by gunshot. Nope, couldn’t have been anything else. Couldn’t have been a knife, poison, TNT, getting run over by a team of horses, fire, drowning. Those things didn’t exist in 1865.

      The important thing to consider: both Bloomberg and Lincoln’s assassin have/had very tiny brains with NO imagination or sense of reality.

      I won’t argue about Lincoln’s willingness to have 600,000 Americans slaughtered to “save the union.” It wasn’t about slavery. Congress could’ve passed the Amendment BEFORE the Eman. Proc.

      ANYWAY – back to the point: As mentioned above, we really should have background checks before anyone is allowed to run for public office. You can find many examples of EXACTLY THAT in the charters/Constitutions of the original 13 states.

      OH, yea , cars. I totally forgot to make cars illegal! They kill more people each year than guns.

      Sharks….lightening. Now these are REAL killers. They should be banned. And morticians. And terrorists…no, no, can’t ban them, that would violate their civil rights. Even if they are illegal aliens (not like E.T.), we cannot violate their rights, even if their transcript has courses like “Pipe Bombs 101,” Sniping in High Income Areas,” “747 Simulator Training,” and my favorite, “Hacking the National Defense Files for Fun and Profit.”

      The world has, indeed, gone mad.

      • TIME

        Doc Dude, LMAO, Great post! Thanks I really needed that.

      • JC

        And Doc? What about Doctors? We’re about 9 times more likely to be killed by a Doctor than an illegal gun.
        Guess we should outlaw those too eh? LOL

        • Dan az

          JC
          That’s a fact!

  • Charles Dobbins

    Since Bloomberg is trying to do so much good, should he also try to get a ban against rocks in Egypt and cars and trucks in the US since they are injuring and killing so many.

    Absolutely no common reasoning with these type of elected officials. He needs to be booted out in the next election.

    • Doctor XIV

      CHARLES DOBBINS!

      THUMBS UP!

      “Since Bloomberg is trying to do so much good, should he also try to get a ban against rocks in Egypt”

      ROFLMAO!!!! Genius, Sir! I forgot about the original murder case. It was the ROCK that killed him! BAN ALL ROCKS!! I want tougher ROCK laws!!

    • always right

      WHEN ROCKS ARE OUTLAWED, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE ROCKS

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    i dont pay any mind to him he is out of his mind he is like the rest of the commies that want to disarm us the only time you get my gunsc is from my cold dead hands you punk.

  • Ed

    R
    His policies really work well for NYC; just look at their FBI crime statistics. Lets export them to the rest of the nation and achieve the same standard!

  • J Proci

    Michael Bloomberg, you reside in NYC, you should stay in NYC. As a former resident of NYC, I can honestly tell all people, NYC is nothing more than a human zoo. The gun laws there are for the criminals. They are not for the law abiding citizen/s.

    • Dave P

      I always thought Bloomberg went against the voters’ wishes and ran for a 3rd term because he actually felt he is indispensible. Now, after the Virginia operation and threats of prosecution, I’d hoped he would smarten up and just be the mayor of NYC. We certainly have enough problems here to keep him busy full-time. The reality is, I think he really wants to be the head of the ATF, since he keeps trying to do their job. I truly hope that next time he pull this crap, his secret agents get locked up (what they did IS a crime) and the locals indict him for conspiracy. He SHOULD be trying to keep NYC criminals from getting guns and let Arizona do the same; I’m sure they are quite capable without Bloomberg’s “help”.

  • http://google SUNBUM

    I AGREE WITH HIM – LETS SLOWLY PASS LAWS ON GUN OWNERS TILL, FINALLY WE HAVE, UTOPIA! HOW MANY KNIVES KILL PEOPLE EACH YEAR? A FORK IN THE EYE, POISON, STONES, STICKS, HELL, WHY STOP WITH GUNS? WE SHOULD ALL BE FORCED TO BUY A BOX & FORCED TO LIVE IN IT. WHY NOT, FOR PROTECTION?? ARE YOU NOT BEING FORCED TO BUY HEATH INSURANCE. MAN! I LOVE THIS UTOPIA!!! I GUESS THIS IS HOW IT’S SPELLED; I WASN’T RED LINED. GO LIBS!!

    • always right

      outlaw boots. boots are used to kick people in the heads.
      And since Draconian laws works so well, I guess we have no killings nor rapes in prisons, since shivs and rape are illegal. Funny how that works: even in prison criminals can get weapons & drugs & still commit crimes.

      • eddie47d

        Criminals are not criminals until they get caught so they could indeed buy a weapon legally. That means they could do alot of damage after buying that weapon at least until he would get apprehended. At that point he would be branded a criminal.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Now eddie wants to become the thought police!! The man MIGHT commit a crime so we have to outlaw guns.

          • Dan az

            Joe I saw that movie does that mean eddiee wants to be tom cruise?

        • JC

          Communist.

          • eddie47d

            Fascist liar!You killed that cat yet.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Geesh there goes eddie trying yet AGAIN to get JC to kill someones pet! Eddie, get some help, dude!!!

        • independant thinker

          I do not remember eddie ever voicing his opposition to any gun control measure that has been proposed and discussed on this site he always favors them.

          • eddie47d

            I support most laws that work and if they don’t work then get rid of them. If gunshows are a problem and you don’t want laws then let’s get rid of gun shows. You can make this difficult or rather easy.

  • hoffhack

    Mayor Blumberg, do us a favor. Yes, you have the people of New York City and the surrounding counties under your “JACK BOOT” A citizen cannot even get an application for a Pistol license in NYC (unless they are a bonifide democrat, and politcal Pal of his) Even if you go through the un-believeable hassel to get a Licence, (I know, I lived there for 55 years) you cannot carry it except TO AND FROM THE PISTOL RANGE!!!!! AND IN NYC, IT HAS TO BE UN-LOADED AND IN A LOCKED BOX!!! It sounds bizzar, but those are the facts! I never did get a chance to ask the guy that robbed me on the subway platform in Brooklyn, why he did not have his gun in a “Locked Box” And if I had my gun with me, and shot the S.O.B., they would have locked me up! Then, even if the guy got arrested and went to trial, you have “JURY NULIFICATION” IF THE VICTUM IS WHITE, AND THE CRIMINAL IS ANY THING OTHER THAN WHITE, THEY LET THEM WALK! OR THEY WIND UP WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST AND MAYBE DO A YEAR, AND THEY ARE RIGHT BACK AT IT!! THANK GOD I LIVE IN FLORIDA NOW, AND CARRY 24/7, AND THE ONLY THING I FEAR IS NUMB SKULLS WHO THINK LIKE “MAYOR BLUMBERG!” How come nobody asked why the so called investigator was not arrested. If he knew he could not pass a background check, then buying the gun was a Felony! And if he was put up to it by Mayor Blumberg, that is a Felony too! Hey Mike! Stay in New York and keep out of our business in “Real America!”

    • http://att Shirley

      I agree if the Mayor and his gang broke the law why aren’t they being charged?

      • Dan az

        Shirley
        Our laws here are what they really are complaining about the law states that Federal law requires anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer to undergo a background check, but that requirement does not apply to sales by individuals who aren’t dealers. Arizona’s law won’t change that.

  • Jack

    I would like to tell that DipShit little mayor Bloomberg to keep his stupid fly catcher closed. It is none of his business what any other state or city does in regards to anything. This idiot is possessed with his own self importance. He should worry about his own crime ridden city and work on snow removal. They undoubtedly use Enron accounting techniques to report NYC crime statistics.

    • http://MSN Mike

      Right on Jack, the people where so upset with the snow removal(lack of it) that Bloomberg had to have gun control to protect himself!!

  • http://comcast.net PRESTON W.ATHEY

    GUNS KEEP AMERICA FREE Any army that would attack us,would have to fight from house to house.Congress has changed the CONSTITUION without the
    people knowing it- THIS MUST STOP.The Rich Elite who run this country, want all the guns taken away. So they can walk right over us.Bloomberg should run New York and mine his on business!Let the Muslims tell the Americans what to do in NEW YORK.People keep guns for protection.I LOVE THIS COUNTRY–VIET.VET-AND WILL FIGHT FOR HER AGAIN.
    THANKS GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Lastmanstanding

      Preston, you will have alot of help.

      Everyone, please checkout/join http://www.oathkeepers.org

    • Patsy

      Thank you for your statement and especially for your service to our country.

  • JimH

    There was a time when you went to the sporting goods store and you bought a gun and a box of shells and took it home right then. In Illinios you show a FOID(fire arms owner identification) card, there is a call to the state police for a background check, and a 24 hour wait for rifle and shotgun, 72 hr for handgun. Since all this was implemented the crime rate has NOT gone down. In Chicago where the laws are more stringent, the rate has gone up. I keep hearing about “common sense” gun laws, but I haven’t seen any yet. Hindering the law abiding citizen won’t stop the criminal or insane.

  • Mike Gibson

    Bloomberg bought his election like most politicians do. I heard someone say “he is a wild hair in an armpit”. What an idiot. His city residents should sue him for using their taxes to do the so-called investigation.

  • Robert

    Mike Bloomberg should stay in NY and mind his own business. If he is such a great mayor and has all of the answers why isn’t NY city the safest and greatest place on earth? Does anyone think he is going to give up his security people who I am sure are well armed. Most of us can’t afford a private security force and do not have one provided to us at the tax payer expense.

  • Rich1776

    Mayor Bloomberg has it wrong again… first the “Ground Zero” Imam and now more Federal gun legislation. This is typical of progressive response to problems… “if something is failing, just make another Federal law!” The government should solve all problems. Why not take this issue to the UN, Mayor?? Or the IMF? Maybe a “new world governance” can solve our problems??

    Mayor, how about simply enforcing the law that exists in Arizona. The investigator discovered that one vendor violated the Arizona law. And you conclude we need new laws? How about a call to prosecute the violator of the existing law?

    Mayor, your rhetoric is just more of the same old school thinking. Our country needs new leaders with bold thinking about doing legislation right not doing something “we must pass so that we can understand it later.”

    Thanks. But NO THANKS!

    • independant thinker

      “How about a call to prosecute the violator of the existing law?”

      The so called violator was probably a plant by Bloomberg with instructions to offer to sell the gun no matter what he was told bu the prospective buyer.

  • Pete0097

    I wonder what they did with the guns after they left the show. Did they throw them away? Did they sell them to someone else? Did they keep them and take them home? Did they give them to homeless people? Did they give them to the police to dispose of?

    • 45caliber

      Did they even buy them? Or was that faked just for the pictures?

  • Michael

    Mr Bumberg you should be run straight out of our country due to your complete disregard for our constitution. You sir took a oath to protect the very thing you are trying to take from us. OUR CONSTITUTION IS LAW. Your actions have been border line treason and the punishment for treason is DEATH. Stand by us or leave this country!! We do not need your opinions to tell us right from wrong WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. I sir am a Marine Vet and quite frankly I will defend my country again against foes such as you.
    Defend the constitution or leave!!!!

  • Lray

    WoW! New York must be the best run city in the country. They aren’t running in the red likes most cities and can afford to spend a 100 grand in tax money for this nonsense. New Yorkers must be really proud of their elected official that are so carefully spending their tax dollars. Also if these people that bought the guns have not registered them are they not braking the law??? LET ALONE the ENTRAPMENT!!!

  • Raggs

    Can you spell “SET UP”?… The seller at this gun show was an inflitrator , a plant… I have an idea… why don’t bloom ( ing idiot ) berg move his sorry ass to china where the citizens cannot own firarms to protect themselves against politcians like him.

    • 45caliber

      Raggs – he can’t do that! He can’t own his own guns there! He’s not after all guns … just yours and mine.

  • copakeman

    this is the same guy who is TELLING everyone how much salt, trans fats, where & when you can smoke tobacco, hasn’t let the WTC be rebuilt and a host of other government controls on our personal lives.
    he is super out of touch with reality. how often do you think he actuallly talks and listens to normal people ? only in photo ops, but never listens. he is almost as bad as ‘o’, but would be if he became the US president. he is an elite that wants to control everyones lives. he is a disgrace to our country. gun laws are only for honest people, not criminals who don’t care about any laws.

  • Jamie

    The man didn’t say you couldn’t buy a gun or own a gun. He just said people should have to pass a background check? Who among us wants to make it easy for criminals to buy guns at gun shows?? Why do you have to have that gun this very minute?? If you think he should mind his own business maybe you peole should take your own advise and mind your own business when it comes to abortion!! OH i understand your OK with killing people with guns but are against medical procedures done legally by a doctor in a hospital or clinic. So your for individual rights for yourself just not women?? Why is it a set when Bloomerg does it but OK when the GOP does it to ACORN??

    • Raggs

      Jamie… I hate to tell you this, but anyone can pick up a classified ad out of thier local newspaper and find any gun that they want without your stupid control methods….

    • Raggs

      One more thing little miss prissy pants.

      Murdering via abortion is against GOD… I have owned guns since I was 8 years old and I have never killed anyone… I do however carry one everywhere that I go.. If I ever had to use it on another person that person would not be innocent ( they would force the issue for me to use it )Which is a far cry from murdering an innocent child.

      • Jamie

        Raggs…little mister prissy pants…so afraid of the world that you have to carry a gun all day long?? Unless your a policewoman and its part of your uniform?? Probably not…just another coward who needs a gun to feel like a real man…please show me the word abortion in the bible?? Not there…yea i know…so you believe in GOD but have no faith that he’ll protect you?? Not much faith at all in the all mighty Raggs. Hopefully none of your children get a hold of your gun and kill themselves by accident…it happens everyday in this country Raggs…but not to you right. Coward.

        • Raggs

          Nope I’m not a coward I am also not stupid enough to think that idiots will not be able to purchase guns and NO law will prevent that from happening.
          Read the bible and you will see where it states.. It would be better for you to have a milstone around your neck and jump into the lake of fire than to harm one of my children.

          • Jamie

            Raggs a fetus doesn’t become a child until it takes a breath. The do that for a reason. Many babies never get to take a breath even though they go full term. Again ABORTION isn’t in the bible. Thou shall not kill Raggs. Not thou shall not have a medical procedure. A womans body and a womans choice. You all for individual choice for guns. Why try to take a womans choice from her? Mind your own business like you keep saying Raggs.

          • independant thinker

            Actualy it is thou shall not kill unjustly (in other words commit murder).

            Soloman, who many accept as the wisest man to ever live, said the spirit enters into the child in the womb.

          • Dogma-Free ‘The Trinity’

            @Raggs – Ooooh…he (Jamie) got you there!

            He keeps knocking down your emotionally-based posts (and name-calling), with good, solid logic.

            I understand you aren’t emotionally capable of having your views challenged, and remaining rational about it, but seriously now…what’s with all the schoolyard-esque name-calling??

            Next thing, you’ll be calling Jamie a poopie-head, just because he disagrees with you about your paranoid delusions of the boogie-man coming to take your guns and fetuses away in the dead of night…

            I also thought he made an excellent point about how so many of you claim to be ‘christians’, and yet you don’t treat others like Jesus supposedly did, and you sure don’t seem to have much faith in your god to keep you safe from the big, bad criminals.

            If you did, you wouldn’t feel the need to carry a gun (aka: security blanket) with you everywhere you go – you would just carry a bible, and you would simply pray for protection from criminals.

            Or are you saying prayer is all a sham…?

        • Al Sieber

          Hey Jamie, why are you on Raggs ass? that’s his right. what do you have against a armed citizenry?

          • eddie47d

            Jamie can be a little firecracker!Raggs did slyly accuse Jamie of wanting to kill his children and that she should do the same by jumping in a lake. It’s amazing how many gun rights Americans have yet you all scream about your guns being taken away. The only thing that MIGHT eventually do that is if these “Bloomberg” sting operations prove to the American public how easy it is for criminals to get their guns. My advice to all is to save your rights by going after those illegal sellers and traffickers. If you can’t do that then it’s obvious you don’t care and the force of public opinion will be against you.

          • Jamie

            All i said was whats wrong with passing a background check?? I didn’t say he couldn’t buy or own a gun. He went off on me so i replied.

          • Al Sieber

            eddie, Raggs still has the right to defend himself, like me, everything is a crime now to own a weapon, if you were in the military and have PTSD you can’t have a weapon etc. they take our rights away one at a time, through illegal laws.

          • JC

            So eddie, according to you, if criminals can get guns, citizens should have theirs taken away? That makes you’re sense of logic pretty twisted….ah, but I digress.
            Communist.

          • eddie47d

            JC; Where in the hell is anyone having their gun taken away without probable cause. Do we live in the same country??

        • always right

          jamie, you’re an absolute ‘tard. Do you have seatbelts in your car? Airbags? Take ‘em out because you’ll never need them. If you keep them you’re a coward, afraid of getting hurt in a crash. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your home or office? Get rid of it or you’re a coward, afraid of fire. Do you lock your car doors on your car? Stop it, or you’re a coward for not allowing people access to your auto. Do you have locks on your doors at home? get rid of them or you’re a coward for acknowledging that there are bad people who might break in. Funny how that works, huh? Now get up and go unlock your doors….

          • Raggs

            :) No matter what she thinks murder is murder and calling it a good thing to murder an unborn is totaly wrong.. Defending ones self or ones family is a good thing…

          • eddie47d

            Raggs; She never said anything differently on that subject of you being able to defend your family now did she.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Why oh why do people always call other people derogatory names–what’s the point?

          • libertytrain

            Claire, I believe they are under the delusion that it empowers them. Of course, they come off as fools no matter the side.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Jamie,
          the Bible says Suffer not the children for they are as pure as the driven snow!!! CLOSE ENOUGH FOR YOU???

          • Jamie

            Once again Joe…children are not a fetus…there living walking talking children…a fetus isn’t breathing…its not about children its about the live human woman who has the rights under the laws of our country to have an abortion…i’ll trade you her rights for your rights…no more abortions…no more guns…deal??

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jamie
            Study your Latin a little and figure out what Fetus means!!!

    • Jim

      Jamie, lets take a survey and see how many criminals bought their gun at a gun show. They could do that when Bloomberg arrest them for a crime, if that would ever happen.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Jamie, people carry guns for the same reasons that prudent people wear seatbelts. That is: When you see the wreck coming, it is too late to put the seat belt on, or maybe go back and get in a car with airbags. Criminals act without giving the victims advance warning.

    • Doug

      Keep trying Jamie you must be a plant no one is that stupid! Who is talking about abortion dummy. So maybe instead of a gun maybe we should get these big vacuums and when we don’t like someone or want to steal from them, (in your logic) since we don’t have guns we can use this large vacuum to suck them right up and kill them. Sounds about right dummy. What are you one of Bloomfarts illegitimate kids? Or were you just and abortion that went wrong?

      • Jamie

        Doug my poor boy if you do own a gun do the rest of us a favor and use it on yourself before you reproduce another DUMB Doug for the world to deal with. Gun ownership is an indivuals right…just like an abortion…dummy Doug

        • Raggs

          Jamie… why such a sour puss?
          Why is it ok to kill an unborn and not a rapist?

          • Jamie

            I love capital punishment…i wish we killed one inmate a day in every state until no one remained on death row…i bet the crime rate would drop sharply if we did. A freind of mine who was on the Georgia hwy patrol was just killed in December by a man with an illegal handgun…i can’t wait for Georgia to execute him.

          • 45caliber

            Jamie:

            A friend of mine is a cop in Little Rock, AR. He told me some years ago that they keep a chart in their ready room. They show the number of crimes (total) a day on it.

            The rate starts low and then starts going up. It goes up faster and faster and faster and … then some criminal is killed. He said that it didn’t matter if the criminal was executed, shot by a cop when trying to shoot the cop, or some homeowner got him. The rate would instantly drop almost back to zero. Then it would start over again.

            He (and I) am convinced that executing criminals will slow down the crime rate despite what the liberals like to say.

          • Aix Sponsa

            18 years ago on talk radio in Little Rock, the news brief was read, I can still quote it: “The average minor age criminal in Pulaski county gets arrested 13.6 times before he faces a serious threat of incarceration.” period. OK so he gets ARRESTED 13.6 times. How many crimes has he done? 300, 500, 1,000 ?? LA has Watts, NY has Harlem. Little Rock has “the war zone”.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Personally, I believe in the death penalty providing the person is truly guilty of murder.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            Or sexually assaulting a child!!! This includes ANYONE, regardless of religeon or what ever!!

          • http://deleted Claire

            JoeH–Yes, you are right–pedophiles deserve the death penalty. I have no sympathy for these creeps.

          • libertytrain

            Nor do I.

          • Al Sieber

            Joe, I agree with that big time.

          • Dan az

            Joe
            It is a death sentence when they go to jail they have a number 9 at the end of their prison number and thats when the fights start in the yard to see who gets to kill him. Fact!

          • JC

            Hey Joe, Good thoughts.

            I think criminals who murder, rape, molest children and commit high treason should all get the needle…or zapped, or gassed, or hung, or shot.

            Combine that with a system of justice and an armed population and the crime rate would be almost zero in about 6 months.
            Problem is, there`s no “money” in that….

      • Raggs

        :) :) Doug that was too funny….

    • 45caliber

      Jamie:

      “Why do you have to have that gun this very minute?”

      Ask that of the people in LA that went running to get one to defend their property and lives during the Rodney King Riots there. (And couldn’t.) Ask that of the woman who is being stalked. (And gets killed before the waiting period is up.)

      I personally don’t need one this very minute – simply because I already have one. And I’ve had one since I was five years old although my Mom only let me use it when we went target practicing until I was ten. Then I kept it myself and went target practicing every time I could come up with some bullets.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45,
        I have the same 22 cal rifle that my dadf taught me to shoot on!! It still shoots true and hits what I point it at! It was that rifle that enabled me, a left hander to fire expert on the rifle range at Ft knox Kentucky!!

  • The Shrimper

    We need background checks for moron politicians like this idiot. “….Bloomberg said that the investigation proves that Federal gun control laws are ineffective at keeping weapons out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill.”
    Really??… Imagine that, a law that is ineffective in preventing a criminal action!!.. That’s why they’re called criminals, Mikey.
    It is a shame that all that wealth is wasted on such a clueless moron.

    • Bear

      Hey Shrimper………as much as I hate to agree with any politician, I must. Federal laws do NOT prevent criminals from getting guns. Federal laws that require background checks have created the firearms black market. That is where the criminal element typically goes to get their weapons. A criminal minded person does not regard any law and will get a firearm regardless of any law put in place by these politicians. The only people affected by these laws is the law abiding citizen who is inconvenienced and made to endure being teated as a potential criminal until proven that they are not. All this system does is cut off the possibility of a criminal buying a gun from a gun dealer. By mandating background checks at gun shows, it cuts off yet another place a criminal can purchase a firearm because of his or her criminal past. This assures that the firearms black market stays in business. If the politicians want to do anything to make America safer, they must go after the black market sources. I am a Federally licensed firearms dealer and own a gun shop. So, I know from experience that not everyone can pass the background check. I also know that after 16 years in the business that only ONE of my customers could not get his record cleaned up to be legal. The most common reason for a denial is a restraining order. People go through a divorce and the lawyers place restraining orders on each other clients that manage to stick there after the divorce is long over with. When the individual goes back to his lawyer and requests that the lawyer get the restraining order removed, all is well. In the one case that the individual did not get his record cleaned up, it turns out that he was involved in drug trafficing and that one was not going to get cleaned up. As a gun dealer, I have intentionally turned down sales when I did not feel comfortable with the individual attempting to make the purchase. We have to be responsible enough to make a determination as to whether or not the individual should be allowed to have a gun at all. This is difficult and could carry negative consequences. By turning down an individual who I am not comfortable with could result in me getting charged with violating his or her constitutional 2nd ammendment rights. In any event, it is not a decision that I take lightly. As for the thing in Arizona with the Bloomberg boys, I think it was all staged Hollywood style. Arizona law requires that the individual have an Arizona drivers license to purchase a handgun in Arizona. The video did not explain how these New Yorkers managed to produce an Arizona driver’s license. I also feel that Bloomberg has NO business stepping outside his own turf to try and clean up anyone elses. He has enough to deal with trying to make sure the “ground zero” Mosque gets built according to New York codes. Just proves to me that his anti gun agenda is more important than the memory of those killed by Muslim terrorists. I wouldn’t believe anything that comes out of that S.O.B.’S mouth.

      • eddie47d

        It’s good to hear from an honest gun dealer and the importance of having common sense laws. You will also avoid being sued by a family who may have had a loved one killed by an “illegal buyer”.You cover your bases and we all sleep better. Thanks.

        • Dan az

          So eddiee do you mean that the seller should be sued if some one goes crazy and shoots some one?Did the owner of the gun go crazy or did the seller pull the trigger?

        • JC

          That’s exactly what he means…now let’s see him try to justify that BS.

          • eddie47d

            If the seller knowingly sells to an unauthorized person and that person commits a crime darn tootin’ he should be sued.

      • JimC

        I agree with what you said. But being from a different state (DE), I would like to know a few things about AZ gun laws just for my own information, and you seem to be a well informed person to ask.
        >>”….I think it was all staged Hollywood style. Arizona law requires that the individual have an Arizona drivers license to purchase a handgun in Arizona. The video did not explain how these New Yorkers managed to produce an Arizona driver’s license…..<<
        The way I read this, at a gun show or in a purchase from an "occassional seller" — the purchaser is required to produce a AZ Driver's License as ID, other states not accepted? So the buyers in the video could have had legitimate AZ Licenses or fakes – right?
        Let's assume the seller was not shown an AZ license, but instead one from NY — the sale should have stopped, but it did not, is there a penalty for that sale on the part of the seller?
        Let's assume that Bumberg hired a AZ resident (complete with a valid AZ License)to act as his buyer, further assume his AZ buyer is a felon, perhaps convicted of armed robbery, and would have failed a background check.
        Once the seller sees the buyer's AZ Driver's License — does he record any information from that ID? Does that information get transferred to law enforcement at any time? Does the buyer sign a 4473 Form (I think that's the right number, the form where the buyer swears he is not a felon, etc.)?
        Bloomberg should stay at home, I thought he would have learned that in VA, but I guess not.

        • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

          Bloomie hired PIs in Ga. to do the same thing. It was straw purchases, he conspired to do it and STILL has not been charged with a damn thing, so much for enforcing federal gun laws, being an elite has its priveleges. Funny thing is, the PIs (and the female’s mom) got killed before they could testify that the dealer did everything they were supposed to do…..hmmmm.

        • Dan az

          JimC
          If they had a AZ lic. then they could buy it as long as the seller was private not a dealer.
          Federal law requires anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer to undergo a background check, but that requirement does not apply to sales by individuals who aren’t dealers. Arizona’s law won’t change that.

      • independant thinker

        As a dealer you should know that a private individual cannot just call in for a background check. You must have a federal dealers license or be a member of law enforcement to do so.

        Blombergs past statements and his record in NYC prove he is not interested in “controled sales” of firearms but wants ALL private transfers eliminated.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Created the black market? That is the same logic that proports that if we legalize drugs there will be no more drug useage. That worked for legalizing alcohol, didn’t it? There are now no drunk drivers and nobody has gotten harmed since alcohol prohibition was repealed. Let’s get to the point. People with no integrity will always be criminals. How does that old saying go? Lawyers, bankers, brokers, cops, and politicians have been lying and stealing since they could crawl. Like the frog and the scorpion.

        • JimC

          >>Created the black market?<>That is the same logic that proports that if we legalize drugs there will be no more drug useage.<>That worked for legalizing alcohol, didn’t it?<< Yes, it sort of did. Unless I am mistaken there are not nearly as many stills in operation in the US now as during Prohibition, and alcohol smuggling is way down. Your booze is a safer product and when was the last time you heard of a shoot-out between rum runners and the Revenuers'?

          So, if we did away with background checks for guns, and legalized use and purchase of all drugs; would the black market for these items go away? I suspect much of it would, however, a smaller black market will always exist for stolen items in both catagories. The stolen goods black market will always exist because of vastly reduced prices – guns, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, TV's, tools, jewelry, cars, copper wire and pipe, and a plethora of other items all have a black market — all price based.

          Would the incidence of drug use / abuse go down? — doubtful, it would probably rise since possession and use are suddenly "legal". I think some places in "enlightened" Western Europe tried that and it didn't work out so well in the long term.

          Would every criminal who wanted a gun still have one? Yes, exactly the same as right now with background checks in place.

      • Al Sieber

        Yeah, well, bear, Ariz. is different in other parts of the state. I worked in a pawn/gun shop for 4 years, and gun shows, swap meets etc. in the late “80′s” and it depended on whether you had to have a FFL or not. usually a AZ. DL would suffice, or you didn’t have to ask.

        • Bear

          Al, You and Jim C both posess intelligence. Thanks for that. There are many edges to this sword and creating more and more non-functional anti-gun laws will not stop the criminal element from perpetrating crimes on the innocent any more than making a sex offender get registered stop him from commiting yet another crime on one of our children. “The only way to deal with a horse thief is to hang him.” That was a quote from one of my father’s many talks with me about stopping repeat offenses. Does it have a ring of logic? I think so. When the criminal justice system releases individuals of questionable reputation back into society as rehabilitated, who is responsible for these individuals actions when they commit their next crime? What if the parole review board, every single member, were to be held responsible for their decision to release someone as though they themselves were the individual being released? That simply means that if and when that individual being released kills someone, the entire board would be on trial for that murder. Do you think the thought of being held accountable themselves would weigh on their mind when making their decision? Right now, there is NO accountability whatsoever for these people who release these people back into society and statistics will bear me out on this, over 80% of these released individuals will commit more crimes and will end up back in prison. What does that tell us? Perhaps that rehabilitation doesn’t work? Oh, what about the other 20% that don’t wind up back in prison? Approximately 85% of those individuals end up dead attempting to commit another crime. How often have you heard on the news something like this, “the individdual killed in the high speed persuit was only released from jail two weeks ago.” He was part of that 85%. Until we start making the punishment befit the crime and truyly deal with the criminal element in a manner befitting who they are, we will continue to lose the battle. If all prisoners were treated in a manner like they are in Maricopa County, Arizona, perhaps we would have less repeat offenders. If we started requiring mandatory death sentences for crimes such as murder, rape, and child molestation, perhaps that would reduce the number of those crimes and what about vehicle theft? The penalty for stealing a man’s horse use to be hanging. What the hell is the difference between that and stealing his car?

    • Roger

      Bloomberg has more dollars than “sense.”

      • Al Sieber

        Right, and Bloomberg should take care of the crime in his own city.

      • JC

        It isn`t about sense or sensibility. Bloomberg is a Globalist bent on disarming America to further the Globalist cause.

  • Patriot007

    Bloomberg wearing his “know better than the rest of us” hat again. Problem is his head is full of prunes! It’s obvious to all that this guy constantly publishes his proposed decrees and expects the serfs fall in line. What I’d like to see is his law enacted in his most dangerous neighborhood and then have him live and work there without body guards or other types of protection so he can live out the world he wants so badly to create, but from the receiving end. That’s the problem with wealthy people, they view the world through caviar glasses. He doesn’t live on the same planet we live on.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Michael Bloomberg could more productively spend his time sending his minions out to buy guns on the streets of New York. It is there, after all, where his responsibility lies. Instead he prefers to attempt to destroy the freedom of those who did not – and would not – elect him as dogcatcher.

    • 45caliber

      I agree.

  • B.W.

    Bloomburg, like most other politicians from the Northeast and far west are socialists/communists that believe they are smarter than other Americans and our forefathers, also mostly from the Northeast, and want to run everyone else’s business. That was the true cause for the War Between The States (War of Northern Aggression), not slavery. Check the records and see which General freed his slaves before commanding an army to fight. Hint; it was NOT a Northern general. Also there were slaves in the White House at that time, also. Bloomberg is a typical Yankee liberal and has no faith, trust nor place commenting on the constitution. Incidentally, like all of us who have served in the military the politicos swear an allegience to uphold the very instrument they revile and tromp on.

  • John Wayne

    A typical Liberal response . . . Make a law . . . There are laws against purchasing firearms without background checks now. Why don’t they get enforced? Just like Immigration Laws and many other laws as well, they were passed with the insane idea that, “We solved the problems, We passed a law.” The same logic carried to the other extreme would be, “Make everything legal, then there’d be no crime. I think we ought to build a compound large enough to put ALL the liberal idiots in and let them run it to suit themselves. Leave the rest of us to enjoy our lives without their damned stupidity.

    • eddie47d

      You actually proved Bloomberg’s point too. That gun laws aren’t enforced. If they were then none of those weapons would have been sold at that gun show. You are right about one thing laws don’t mean anything if gun sellers are willing to break those laws.- Even with drugs being legalized they would still have to be regulated to keep people from overdosing more than they already do. Would you want your pharmacist leaving out the dosage on your prescription and you wouldn’t know how many to take. If cocaine ever becomes legal I would hope it would be regulated.

      • independant thinker

        “You actually proved Bloomberg’s point too. That gun laws aren’t enforced. If they were then none of those weapons would have been sold at that gun show.”

        So eddie what is your point. Within the last week you were asking for proof that gun laws were not enforced now you say that is the whole idea.

        Bloomberg is not calling for the enforcement of existing laws if he were that supposed seller would be sitting in jail awaiting trial. In fact if he were interested in enforcing existing law he would be calling for every felon who is caught with a firearm in his/her posession to serve the supposed automatic 5 years without parol in a federal pen. What Bloomberg wants are new laws passed that would eliminate the transfer of a firearm between individuals. No purchasing one and giving it to your wife or husband as a gift. No passing grandpas pistol or rifle down to your son or daughter. No giving your child a firearm to hunt with.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Purchasing one for your wife is already illegal. Read the 4473 forms.

        • eddie47d

          You could easily transfer a gun to a family member or anyone just like a car title. That’s fairly simple if the laws would reflect that.

        • Bear

          Hello Independent thinker, Each of you has good points. But, here is the problem. At a gun show in Arizona, a Federaly Licensed Firearms dealer is required to perform a background check on every gun he or she sells. An individual selling or trading guns with the general public is not. Why is that? In Colorado, a licensed FFL is at the show and performs the background checks for ALL purchases. That is the difference. Arizona would not be in the hot seat right now with Bloombergs intrusion if they had a similar arrangement. This is easy to accomplish and would cut off yet anothr place for criminals to buy guns. Right now, at an Arizona gun show, all you have to do is ask the person behind the table, “are you a licensed firearms dealer?” If he says no, then you can buy what you want with fear of blowing a background check. That’s how it works! Personally, I’d like to see the people of Mexico get firerarms, a Bill of Rights and a Constitution and then learn how to defend them. :)

      • Aix Sponsa

        Created the black market? That is the same logic that proports that if we legalize drugs there will be no more drug useage. That worked for legalizing alcohol, didn’t it? There are now no drunk drivers and nobody has gotten harmed since alcohol prohibition was repealed. Let’s get to the point. People with no integrity will always be criminals. How does that old saying go? Lawyers, bankers, brokers, cops, and politicians have been lying and stealing since they could crawl. Like the frog and the scorpion.

      • Doug

        First of Eddie the Pharms kill more people then guns each and every year. 2nd Eddie the FDA is in bed with big Pharm why do you keep bring up BS! I would not go to Pharm to get any drug that the Big Pharm make they could give a rats ass about you. Tell me one drug that they sell that actully fixes the real problem other than mask the problem?

      • Dan az

        Edward Go back and look at my post to you they did not break the law!!!!!Federal law requires anyone buying a gun from a licensed dealer to undergo a background check, but that requirement does not apply to sales by individuals who aren’t dealers. Arizona’s law won’t change that.

    • Aix Sponsa

      John, you are mistaken. The only time a background check must be done is a sale to an individual (or corportation) FROM a FFL license holder. Private sales are mostly unregulated.

  • B.W.

    What Jamie, Eddie and just about everyone else is forgetting is to read the 2nd Amendment. It does not leave room for background checks or anything else. Bloomberg and cronies are playing the exempt game. They are exempt from the law, The Constitution. What does everyone not understand when it says “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” In very simple language that says NO GUN LAWS, period. Of course Lincoln suspended the Constitution and we have never gotten it back.

    • eddie47d

      Your right to own a gun shall not be infringed upon. Correct. The 2nd Amendment does not imply that there can’t be laws governing those guns and the safety of those around you.

      • 45caliber

        You are stretching it…

      • Aix Sponsa

        The “Founding Fathers” recognized an individual’s common sense and moral values, believing that if someone violates that moral trust, they would be punished…. without specific detailed written laws outlining that procedure. Lawyers have demanded that every jot and tittle be written, so they can manipulate their defense around the premise of common sense.

        • eddie47d

          Oh yes,that trust factor. Like we could trust those sellers at the gun show.How naive do you think the public is?

          • Al Sieber

            eddie, can you trust doctors too, or anyone else also?

          • Dan az

            Al he doesnt trust his own mind thats why he babbles!

          • eddie47d

            I trust everyone until I know different.Then I might not ever trust them.

  • http://NONE EMMA

    MY HUSBAND SAYS ALL POLITICIANS SHOULD SERVE 2 TERMS ONE IN OFFICE AND THE OTHER IN PRISON. TELL BLOOMBERG TO STAY AT HOME AND TAKE CARE OF HIS OWN CORRUPT CITY FIRST.

    • 45caliber

      A man after my own heart!

    • Aix Sponsa

      Geez, that’s a good one. I am gonna remember that.

    • JC

      Funny.
      Someone else I know said Obama should serve one more term…25 to life!

  • B.W.

    Something I forgot to say, too. Most everyone is using the word LAW in place of LEGAL. They are two different words, two different meanings. LAW means something is Constitutional. LEGAL is EQUITY, Color of Law, something made to look like law. We are currently under a Legal System, NOT LAW. Bloomberg is just another Liberal Lackey for those really in charge.

  • http://msn Kerri

    This man needs to mind his own business, in his own city and state. Leave the rest of us alone. I think he thinks he is the president.

    • 45caliber

      I think he wants to be anyway.

  • mr . s.

    It is constitutional for citizens to bare arms, and yes psycos would have drivers license noting they are not all there, and leave the rest of us alone. Bloomberg wants gun control like all politicians do because if they get caught in their secrets (thank God for Wikeleaks) they don’t want us to come looking for them with guns.
    If all hell broke loose in NY I would bet the ranch that every cop would be at their own homes protecting their own family , not standing out in the street being a target for stray bullets.
    It’s everyone for themselves.
    This is why they have FEMA imternment camps so they could clean up the neighborhoods of those who don’t agree with their plan.
    The last thought is Why should Bloomberg try and make laws that includes everyone,including those who may be living in the remote rural areas, cut off from most society, but yet they have to be burdened with these restrictive laws all of which tend to water down their constitutional freedoms and for what, because of Bloomsburg’s own insecurities,agenda, inability to control crime with a police force that did ok under Gov Gulliani .

    • Aix Sponsa

      In the next couple years when the widespread riots and lootings start in the major cities of the USA and marshall law is declared, criminals will be transported to the prison camps. Look what happens at the food stores with impending bad weather. What if there is no electricity, no gasoline, no food production or distribution, and no money to buy anything anyway? Inner city inhabitants will flee into the rural areas. Be prepared. Wake up and smell the roses.

  • Marshall

    Bloomberg does not represent AMERICA!!!

    • eddie47d

      Illegal Gun Traffickers don’t represent America! or do they?

      • 45caliber

        No, they don’t. But then … they don’t try to insist they do either.

        • eddie47d

          Covering up for them again Caliber?

          • http://deleted Claire

            First of all, I believe in conceal and carry. I have a handgun. My husband has plenty of guns. Are we nuts? No we are not. We are responsible human beings. However, something must be done to keep the wackos from getting guns. The only solution I can come up with is stricter background checks and when criminals are caught with an illegal gun, send them to prison for 25-30 years. This is a neverending problem, especially since the creeps always have access. How do they get them? This is an issue where they have to start at “the top” not from the bottom up. Go after the ones that make guns readily available for the criminals. Go after the drug lords, the mafia, etc. If I operated a gun show, you damn well bet I would have background checks and stringent ones at that. Why did Bloomberg single out Arizona? Why didn’t he start with his own city? If he wanted to investigate another state, why didn’t he go to Chicago? The politicians think they can walk on water, well they should begin by cleaning up their own backyard.

      • JC

        Illegal gun, drug and human traffickers are already illegal.
        We don`t need yet another law that only effects honest people to prove that.
        If that damned Kenyan in the White House would let the Border Patrol do its job we might be able to shut some of that activity down.
        But No!…that Traitor takes Arizona to “world court” for making discriminatatory law? (What Bulls***)
        Sinse when did America not have a sovereign justice system?

  • Ted Crawford

    His state and his city are bankrupt. He has no idea what to do to fix the problem. I would suggest that to spent the citys time and money in this manner is a large part of the reason for their problems! His time and the citys money would have been better spent on the problems plaguing New York, than on furthering the progressive agenda!
    In any case the actions of the dealer were in violation of existing laws, how is passing more laws going to solve the problem?

  • Conservative at Birth

    Why is the Mayor of New York City spending Taxpayer Dollars of a bankrupt city to investigate gun shows in Arizona. He should be recalled immediately for mis-appropritaion of funds.

    • eddie47d

      It has little to do with tax money and comes out of his Mayors group.That is a non-profit organization. That is another reason why they could not prosecute or make arrests at that gun show. If there were any arrests then it would have been by an Arizona official.

      • independant thinker

        “It has little to do with tax money and comes out of his Mayors group.”

        I seriously doubt that. He was doing this with city money long before he formed MAIG.

    • 45caliber

      If you noticed, Bloomberg’s agents didn’t go directly to the AZ police on this. They would likely have gotten arrested.

  • Al Covell

    Obviously there are a large number of people commenting here that totally miss the point of the mayor’s message. Rather than addressing the gun problem people rage about New York’s problem or we have the AZ guv postering with an silly remark about the second amendment.

    • 45caliber

      You miss the point as well. Those in AZ already have a handle on their gun control problem. They practice their aim.

      • benth164

        Hey 45caliber, I have one, and I do practice, but better than that I have a Crimson laser site.

        • Jamie

          That a boy…that should make the parents of the nine year old little girl killed in the shooting feel better.

          • Raggs

            Well I hate to say it like this but at least she had nine years of life unlike some that never has a chance….

          • Jamie

            Yea she got 9 whole years…and no more…because of a gun freak with a long clip…if they didn’t sell that clip…which isn’t a GUN…just an accessary…she’d still be here for her parents to love…but idoits like you are so afraid someone wants your gun that you don’t think about it that way…just that someones trying to take something away…even if its something you don’t need…like an oozy…people said oozies have no place in our culture and you gun freaks lost your minds to keep them…just like this clip…OH by the way the one who don’t get a chance to live never know they didn’t get a chance.

          • independant thinker

            “like an oozy…people said oozies have no place in our culture”

            people who hate oozies should use Sea Bond denture adhesive.

          • Raggs

            Well it only takes one bullet to kill someone or just a pair of scissors, a sharp / dull pencil or maybe just a piece of string.
            Oh and yeah.. gasoline in which we all use could be a problem too?
            I would feel much better if we would shrink wrap the population into a bubble so no one can harm themselves or others.

          • Dan az

            Raggs thats it we should shrink rap the unborn so as to protect them from jamie!

    • independant thinker

      Most of us do get what Bloomberg has to say that being the individual should not posess firearms unless you are rich and well connected.

    • benth164

      Missing the point Al? Oh do we? praytell what point is that? Second Amendment silly? You pompous ass. It may just be the second amendment that will save all our asses from a tyranical government run amok.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Which of course WAS and IS the primary reason for the 2nd Amendment.

  • 45caliber

    I might listen to and agree to what Bloomberg had to say … if he got rid of his own guns first. He might not carry them but his bodyguards certainly do.

    • Raggs

      Never happen!

  • Raggs

    Glooming idiot is politically grandstanding….

  • Al Covell

    Like I said,a lot of people are raging about the wrong thing and the comments following mine above just prove it. As for the pompous ass author I just say look to yourself first.

    • Raggs

      What smoke signals are you trying to send there AL?
      I hope that it’s not marijuana that your are burning there?

      • eddie47d

        It’s not the 2nd Amendment that is under attack. It’s those few who support the 2nd Amendment and Also support illegal traffickers,straw purchasers, and sales without background checks.

      • Al Covell

        Never touch the stuff but the paranoia exhibited here would indicate the majority have puffed/inhaled too much of it.

        • JC

          Actually, as long as morons such as yourself are advocating the destruction of our Constitutional Rights, we don`t need to be paranoid. We do need to be wary, concerned and on gaurd though.

          • Al Covell

            I don’t recall advocating distruction of the Constitution I leave that farsical fantasy of the far, far right to you and those of an unstable mantal state.

          • JC

            I’m a Libertarian, therefore I’m a straight up the middle American Constitutionalist who tolerates Marxism (far left) not at all as THEY are all about destroying American values.
            Just curious though…what do you mean when you say far right?
            What is that (to you)?
            And in what way does this “far right” advocate the destruction of the Constitution?
            I’m interested.

        • Al Covell

          Strict constitutionalist? The Constitution is a living document, one that adjusts to circumstances as time and the political leanings of the Court dictate. If you want to enter the time machine and go back to the time of its writing do so, obviosly you’ll more comfortable there in being able to deny, say, certain people the right to vote for example. Strict constructionists tend to be control freaks universally opposed to the granting of cival rights to those outside their particular WASP group among other weaknesses. Or the fact slavery was ignored in the document but southern states gained extra power by counting slaves as 3/5′s of a person.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Bloomturd should give up his own armed security personnel as well as any guns he may own himself. Bloomturd is one of the few exceptions to my rule (that we should always vote GOP, even if it’s just a vote against democraps) because in reality, he’s no better than the leftwing democraps. In fact, I’d consider voting for a Gabrielle Giffords type candidate over a complete RINO like Bloomturd. Although not highly rated, Giffords did get a ‘C’ rating by the NRA. Of course, that’s what Bloomturd always was – a leftwing democrap who switched to the GOP so he could run against another democrap. Aside from being less friendly to teachers’ unions, Bloomturd has always been a statist democrap disguised as a republican or independent!! This is one of the reasons I oppose term limits. Were it not for term limits, we could’ve kept Rudy Giuliani, who was an overall far better mayor. But term limits didn’t stop Bloomturd from defying the law and running for a 3rd term.

    We know how anti-gun and anti-2nd Amendment (except for his own selfish self) Bloomturd is, in addition to crusading for a smoke-free, salt-free, trans-fat free, etc. city. But yesterday I read in amNewYork that Bloomturd also signed a new law for dog leashes – that owners can’t leave their dogs tied up in their yards for more than 3 consecutive hours. Thus the city will gouge dog owners with fines up to $500. I’ve never heard of any other locality with such a totalitarian law!! Many dogs enjoy staying outdoors, weather permitting. Dogs can let us know when they want to go in and out. Not only how we raise kids, but now these ninny nannies want to tell us how to take care of our dogs??!! This is ridiculous. If I could afford to do so, I’d probably relocate out of NYC, to a more sane and rational political environment!!

    • Aix Sponsa

      In the next couple years when the widespread riots and lootings start in the major cities of the USA and marshall law is declared, criminals will be transported to the prison camps. Look what happens at the food stores with impending bad weather. What if there is no electricity, no gasoline, no food production or distribution, and no money to buy anything anyway? Inner city inhabitants will flee into the rural areas. Be prepared.

  • Jeepdriver 97

    Haven’t read all of the comments, but it seems to me “shall not be infringed” overrides any gun law!

    • 45caliber

      It does. It isn’t that we don’t want to keep guns out of the hands of the criminals, it is that it is wrong to deprive honest citizens of their rights in an attempt to do something that costs only the honest citizens money.

      After all, if they actually had to find and make sure the criminals and mentally ill didn’t get a gun, how much would it cost the government? But if they simply make it illegal for the innocent citizens to have a gun, it really doesn’t cost them anything and still makes it seem as if they are really trying to solve the problem. And it is the citizens who get mugged, robbed, and killed since the ones passing the laws have no intention of giving up their own guns.

      • Raggs

        Hey .45… I have to add something on that.
        If it is not legal for someone that is deemed mentally challenged to own a firearm, who determines the stability of that individual?

        In other words would this not be profilling? And it is the liberals that are against profilling at the airports?

  • Ed8114

    If Bloomberg sent his henchmen from NY to AZ and one of those henchmen purchased a firearm, that purchase is an out-of-state sale and is illegal under Federal law. That hemchman should be prosecuted for violating the law. Bloomberg and the henchmen should all be prosecuted for conspiracy to violate the out-of-state purchase law. An argument could also be made that the henchman made a straw-man purchase on behalf of Bloomberg. Why aren’t these criminals in jail.

    • JimC

      Good questions.

      I suspect Bumberg found an AZ resident supporter (probably originally from CA) to make the buy – but it’s still a straw purchase.

  • Raggs

    Jamie needs to move to the crime free zone… lets say the moon :)
    Oh BTW take obama too…

  • Raggs

    Jamie.. just a guess but do you have an association with code pink or prehaps acorn, maybe with planned parenthood? Of maybe the Muslim brotherhood for a social america?

    • Jamie

      No Raggs…just a regular man…trying to protect womens rights…how about you Raggs…are you building and arsonal for the Muslim Brotherhood?? The KKK?? Have you killed any doctors lately Raggs?? You sound like a murder to me…all geeked up on your pitiful guns…are you compensating for a short coming with your gun Raggs?? Need a gun to make you feel like a real man Raggs??

  • Raggs

    Jamie… prehaps you may be as with Attlia the hun?

  • Mac

    The way I read the article, “city investigators” means NY City people made the sting purchase. So many of you seem to think it was local AZ people who made the purchase. If it was NOT NYC investigators, the article needs to be more clear about that.

    • Raggs

      Yes.. I think by now everyone knows that this was a set-up.

      Off topic, something else that I find note worthy…
      O’s plead to the country in an understanding provided by himself that “he” is a christian… Well for the past 2 years anyway convenient as that is…

    • Ms. Abby

      It was local people that made the purchases for Bloomberg’s team. They have done this in a couple of other southern states.

      He can’t run in city so he’s using this as a smoke screen to garner media attention for his crusade.

  • Mac

    What is Bloomberg doing so far from New Yawk City? Does he seriously think criminals have to go clear across the country to get guns?. I say the 49 other states should get together and pound Bloomberg for going way beyond his jurisdiction.

    Also, why do so many commenters here think the “city investigators” referred to in the article were Arizona locals? The way I read that, they were New York City investigators, way outside their turf.

  • Raggs

    Someone needs to breathe life back into this country instead of choking the neck of people like you and me.

    I have the picture now all I need is the frame.

  • surrelam

    So, are things so good in New York now that Arizona should follow suit?

  • http://personallibertydigest gunner689

    Mayor Boombox should clean up his own cess pool of a city before worrying about real Americans in Arizona.

  • catchesthewind

    What authority does Bloomberg have outside New York City? His budget is in the red, he wastes money like a democrat, his management borders on incompetence, this man is a joke.

    • Raggs

      Usurp, to answer that…

  • Dan az

    Why didn’t bloomers go to Nevada were machine guns are legal? Oh thats right thats Reids state you dont want to make waves there.Its about bashing Arizona so that little lady wont run for prez right? It sure would be funny if she did.Shes going to have to bring the toilet brush with her.

  • Ridge Runner

    I have sat here and read a lot of these commemts and this dog bone head,jamie,eat me47 has a brain it would rattle like a penny in a tin cup.In the first place guns shouldn’t be illegal.Only the person that misuses them should be illegal.If they were still as leagal as they by the constution and every one had one that wanted one and was taught to handle it safely then there would be less crime it is a proven fact.These three damn idiots must have schooling in a law school because they seem to think they are the smartest thing that has came down the road in a long time.Most lawyers are like that.yhe truth is i doubt if they can find their tally wacker to take a piss. there is always some smart ass that comes along to tell you how to live your life.There has always has been whackos and there always will be.If every one had a gun and was taught to use it maybe we wouldn’t have so many in our prisions that we the tax payers have to keep up.That whacko that done the shooting in airzona should have died on the spot.If i had been there and it was my little girl he snot he would have been tried and convicted on the spot.If dog bone head thinks paula’s ad was what made this whacko do this maybe him and some more that runs their mouth about it would like to put their picture on the internet in an experment to see if some whacko would take a crack at them.If it happend then they might have apoint to run their mouth aboutif not then they need to button their lip and put their nose in their own business.

    • Jamie

      All i said was whats wrong with passing a background check…and i was attack from ever post…i simply replied to the rude people the way the replied to me…how come there not a marble rolling around in a tin can?? How about you Ridge…who died and made you the smartest man in the world?? Why don’t you mind your own business??

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Ridge Runner,
      Actually if they laid their brain on the edge of a razor blade it would look like a BB on a six lane highway!!!

  • Ridge Runner

    This blooming idiot is just like abouta lot of people that have a lot of money.now he wants to have power to go with it.He is is just realy a smart ass. He wamts to tell you what you can and can’t do.It is all about money the more control he has over the people the more money him and his cronies can make.If he was concerned about the peoples wellfare he would use some of his billions that he has made off them to help them it is said that nyc is just about bankrupt.do you wonder why it is most likely corruption and mismanagement.one of the first things he needs to do is runthe union out of nycs government but you will never see that done.

  • Joey Biden

    PEOPLE! Most of you people have gone way off topic. Lets get back to the real topic. Bloomberg: an idiot of moronic proprtions. He sticks his nose in other peoples business and has been antigun for a long time. He’s a failure at doing his own job so he creates a distraction by going back to his old anitgun campaign. He spends the taxpayers money to go to AZ on these gunshow raids when he should be in NY minding his own business.

  • Arizona Redneck

    If Bloomberg sent investigators from NYC to purchase guns in Arizona where did they get the Arizona drivers license to purchase firearms? If the buyers used a New York license then both the buyer and seller committed a federal felony and mayor Bloomberg should be arrested for conspiracy.

    • Ms. Abby

      The “investigators” were hired in AZ. He’s done this in a couple of other states and it backfired in at least one.

  • http://personallibertydigest gunner689

    It’s not about gun control, it’s about Control period.

  • Ms. Abby

    So New York is bankrupt, can’t even clean up their snow messes, are laying off police, fire, teachers, etc. and he’s garnering publicity going to other states to campaign for gun control. What a nut case this man is. Even more strange is that there is more death on the streets of his city with illegal guns that most US cities.

    If I lived in NYC I would carry a gun for protection as their streets are unsafe. I can’t believe that the people elected such a self-serving egotist.

  • American Patriot
  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Kinetic,
    I`m a Independent and not really a Bush lover. I will tell you before its over, you will wish you had Bush for the next 20 years, instead of Obama for 4 years. You better find out who Obama is and what he stands for. Don`t believe me, do your homework.Find out who he brought
    along to Washington with him. I will give you a few names to check out.Bill Ayers, Valerie Jeratt, Anita Dunn, Saul Alansky, Cass Sestein, Van Jones, Jef Jones, Andy Stern who left being head of SEIU
    to join one Obama`s left wing org. Seiu is one of the largest unions
    in America and they along with Jeff Jones ( co founder along with Bill Ayers formed The Weather Group,a kown terriost group )helped
    write the 2,000 page Obamas stimulas bill. George Soros, who bankrolls
    most of the left wing- groups in Wash.Just some of these groups Move
    on.org, Oreganizing for America, The Dem party Check them out, you might be suprised.

  • http://personallibertydigest gunner689

    One good thing about BO’s administration; it identifies who the domestic enemies are. They all need a meeting with Mr. Nozler. He’ll adjust their attitude for them.

  • MOUNTAIN MAN

    WHAT’S THAT IDIOT LIBERAL (oops… I Mean PROGRESSIVE ) BLOOMBERG DOING OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK AND IN ARIZONA ANYWAY ?? I DON’T RECALL HIM EVER BECOMING A FEDERAL ANYTHING LET ALONE A MEMBER OF THE ‘ADF’ SQUAD.
    IF A PROGRESSIVE DOESN’T LIKE SOMETHING HE TURNS AWAY FROM IT AND LEAVES IT ALONE.
    IF A LIBERAL (oops… I Mean PROGRESSIVE )DOESN’T LIKE SOMETHING HE TRIES TO BAN IT FOR EVERYONE ELSE.!

    IT’S GUYS LIKE BLOOMBERG THAT GIVES ME A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOMAS JEFFERSON MENT WHEN HE SAID:
    ‘A little revolution from time to time is a good thing.’

  • MOUNTAIN MAN

    to: JAMIE, FEB 3,
    THANKS, I THINK YOU’R A JACKASS TOO !

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