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Blood In The Streets

June 29, 2011 by  

Blood In The Streets

The headline above once pertained to bear markets and the pounding investors would take.* Nowadays, real blood is being spilled in Western democratic cities like Vancouver, Canada, and Athens, Greece. With America’s economy stuck in recession and with the dismal and arrogant leadership provided by President Barack Obama and Congress, it is not hard to imagine similar violence in American cities.

Such an idea would have seemed preposterous four years ago. But that was before the financial crisis of 2008. For three years, anger has been building — and not just in places like the Middle East where violence is as much a part of their culture as the Quran.

On June 15, riots broke out in Athens, the birthplace of democracy. On Tuesday, violence erupted again. The outbursts were ignited by further austerity measures ordered by the Greek government.

The free lunch Greek citizens have been getting for decades is being ripped off the table. The country has already gobbled up the first $139 billion European Union-led bailout. Any talks on a second bailout for Greece hinge on a further belt-tightening. The people of Greece, raised on socialist handouts, are in no mood to stay on a diet.

On June 15 and again Tuesday, protestors poured onto the streets throwing rocks at Parliament. Riot police finally quelled the unrest, but more violence is expected.

Last week, Greece was hit by rolling blackouts as workers at the main power utility began 48-hour rolling strikes to protest the company’s privatization, part of austerity plans needed to avoid a national debt default.

Selling off assets in the utility is a step the socialist government in Athens must take in its $71 billion privatization plan, which must be completed by 2015. The Greek people don’t want spending cuts and higher taxes. But the Greek Parliament is staring down the barrel of a gun. If it doesn’t implement changes by the end of the month, the country will not get the last $17 billion of bailout money.

To ease the crisis in Greece, EU finance ministers agreed to raise the amount of money they will provide for countries drowning in debt. The move is a last-ditch attempt to keep Greece’s financial crisis from spreading to Ireland and Portugal.

All of this has international bankers worried. Last week, Canada’s finance minister, Jim Flaherty, warned there is still “a real danger” of contagion from the ongoing debt crises in Europe, including the possibility of some damage to the country’s banking system.

“Canada is not an island — no country, any more, is an island — our economies are clearly interrelated,” Flaherty said at a breakfast appearance in Toronto following emergency discussions with other G7 countries.

It’s All Greek To Me

Flaherty should also worry about Canada’s homegrown rioters.  The same day Athens was burning, so was Vancouver.

On the evening of June 15, the team favored to win Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals, the Vancouver Canucks, lost. The Cup went to the Boston Bruins, who did not cheat their way to the NHL Championship or get help from the referees. They simply were the better team.

Like most sports fans, I am often brokenhearted. At the conclusion of most seasons, I say, “Wait until next year!” But thousands of Vancouver Canuck fans didn’t say that. Instead, they said things like: “Let’s blow up cop cars; let’s beat up bystanders; and let’s throw bricks though windows!” And that is exactly what they did.

More than 100 rioters were arrested by Vancouver police; as many as 1,000 people could face criminal charges. The dragnet will be aided by the audacity of the looters who photographed and videotaped their rampage and then displayed it on social media websites like Facebook.

The physical cost for the few hours of rioting is more than $1 million, but experts say the long-term damage to Vancouver’s tourist industry could be billions of dollars.

As in Athens, the rioters in Vancouver were mostly gangs of youths bent on creating chaos. This begs two questions:

  1. What would happen in a city like Vancouver if the fledgling economic recovery collapses and the citizens face hardship?
  2. What are the chances this kind of violence will erupt in the United States?

On FoxNews.com, Bill O’Reilly wrote: “The question is: Could this kind of thing happen in America? And the answer is yes. About half the population here now believes income redistribution is the right thing to do. We’re setting the table for violence in this country. Once people start depending on the government for their livelihood, for essentials, and then those essentials are taken away, you’re going to have violence. Also, the more loons there are, the more potential for violence there is. Those anarchists want to burn down everything.

“So we can watch this stuff in Vancouver and Greece, but we shouldn’t think it can’t happen here. The pinheads in America are mounting.”

Before you dismiss O’Reilly as a fearmongering right-wing extremist, it is worth noting that someone on the far left is also frightened of chaos coming to America. Democratic strategist James Carville spoke out about civil unrest that might spring from a still-sick U.S. economy on Don Imus’ syndicated radio show, Imus in the Morning.

“(The recession) is a terrible thing that has happened to people’s lives… If 54,000 (new) jobs is the new norm – this is going to be very, very tough. Some people say it just might be one more thing. We don’t know.”

Carville added that the consequences of America’s continuing financial crisis will not be limited to politics, and he warned of civil unrest because of the bleak economic situation.

“People, you know, if it continues, we’re going to start to see civil unrest in this country. I hate to say that, but I think it’s eminently possible.”

Carville and O’Reilly have agreed on something. If you don’t believe in the possibility, you would have to be naïve. Economic collapse almost always leads to civil strife. What the Vancouver riots demonstrated is that citizens today are spoiled and think they are entitled to whatever they expect.

I have a feeling the world’s staggering economic recovery is about to fall over dead. And not just for Greece. When that occurs, punks like those who rioted in Vancouver will have a lot more to be upset about than the fact their hockey team didn’t win.

Action to take: Take precautions for you and your family should there be violence in and around your neighborhood. Store extra food and water and have your home well secured. Also take whatever defensive measures you feel are prudent. Secure cash on hand and safely inside your home as well as physical gold and silver.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

*The book, Blood in the Streets: Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad was written in 1987 by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg. It remains an excellent read. You can purchase it at Amazon.com.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • s c

    If O’Reilly and Carville can agree on anything, then it’s not too late for our ‘leaders’ to grow spines, acquire brains and do what must be done to save the nation. O’Reilly and Carville seem to know the difference between crap and apple butter – unlike the elected simians who infest Washington.
    If Greece is any indication of what is to come, then let it be admitted that a) public education doesn’t work, b) redistribution of wealth is far worse than a bad idea and c) any nation that relies on incompetence dressed in the form of an expensive suit will get exactly what it deserves.
    So, do the American people have what it takes to DEMAND that our leaders LEAD? We didn’t get where we are via leadership. Can we force people who don’t work for us to walk away from their puppet masters and keep America (and the rest of the world) free?

    • http://yahoo.com sharon

      I don’t see any of them having a spine, they are to worried about there own images to help save America. The republican party can’t keep it together at all they can’t make any decisions they worry to much about themselves. Its to late now for then to grow a spine, and stand up to that lier and traitor Obama and is commie band. There is going to be blood in the streets, just what Obama planned for from the beginning. Americans can only blame themsevles for what has happened to their country and their lives. They are the blame and now they will suffer for their stupidity.

      • FreedomFighter

        We may see riots in America – instigated or added onto by the Chaos groups.

        Look at the video of the rioters in Canada, Greece etc.. look for the backpack guys tearing everything up, very active in the rioting. The almost wear a uniform for the riot, masking the face, carrying a backpack of equiptment.

        If the riot is up to snuff they seem to be the ones exploiting the crowd, throwin the fire bombs, breaking the windows…on-on…

        IMHO if police setup a special squad with those long range beanbag shotguns, started shooting the punks repeatedly, then zapped these ANARCHY soldiers with 500,000 or more volts of juice from the TASERs

        it may go a long way to ending these riots quickly. In addition, using the helicopter mounted non-leathal microwave weapons would end riots in heartbeats. The choppers could heard the crowd like cows to the waiting paddywagons.

        Laus Deo
        Sempre Fi

        • letitsnow1

          yes, yes!

        • Cliffystones

          Beanbags? Why not use live ammo on the instigators?

        • Vagabond

          why use rubber bullets? copper jacketed lead is much more effective,

          • Rick TX

            Many years ago, the late Jeff Cooper (Gunsight),wrote of using 22 caliber rifles and well placed non-leathal wounds to subdue instigators in a riot situation. I believe that Isreal was the only country to consider using the idea. At roughly 100 yds with a silencer, nobody would realize what was happening.

    • Navigator30

      Well said! I lived in the U.K. in the mid 60s (Exchange with the R.A.F.) when the Labour Government was in control. What a disaster! There was a significant flow of capital, jobs, and Physicians to the USA and Canada during this period.

      • steve in AZ

        Yup. It was called the “brain drain”.

        Happening here in the US now, and with good reason. People who have spent the better part of two decades qualifying educationally, for some strange reason, feel they have a right to earn a great living.

        Go figure…

        VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

        • Conservative at Birth

          A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama. Although I agree with many of his ideas, such as abolishing the Federal Reserve. He is too isolationist and not realistic in his foreign policy ideas. He needs to stay in Congress and give up on his perpeetual quest for the Presicency. I am a Libertarian Conservative. He at one time was for open borders, which I am not. My neighbors foolishly wrote in Ron Paul for President in 2008. When I told them that, in affect they voted for Obama she slapped me. How typical of someone wihtout logical though process.

          • Bleh

            McCain would have been every bit as bad as Obama.
            Your neighbors understood this, which is atypical of our average voters. Typical would be the belief in this BS that your vote for the Medias Favorite Republican would have made things any different than Medias favorite Democrat…

          • mrcave

            A write in vote is wasted.

            We did not get in this crisis ONLY because of Clinton, Bush, and Obama, nor just because of Democrats or Republicans. The problem is that people always go for the next “talking head” that comes along, but nothing ever changes.

            A small sampling, I’ll grant you, but everyone that I have convinced to read a Ron Paul book, has become a supporter. At least one life long registered Democrat, has switched parties in order to be able to vote Ron Paul in the primary.

            This is what is key. Getting the real word of Ron Paul out there, not the T.V. spun misconceptions of isolationism, etc. He is is not some kooky, old dude with wild, Utopian fantasies. No, he doesn’t look, or act so presidential. He seems exasperated from years of watching the government fiddle as Rome burns.

            Other candidates can talk all they ant about getting the Republican party back to its roots. It’s just talk.

            Read Ron Paul.

          • Kate8

            Conservative – A Ron Paul vote is only wasted because the media wants it that way. They control the way the masses think and, by ingoring Paul, they are assured that he won’t get the votes.

            It’s time we the people take the voting process back from the elite media. If we could get the word out that Ron Paul is a viable candidate, so people don’t feel stuck with the “lesser of two evils”, it would make a big difference.

            It’s going to take a major campaign effort on all our parts to further the cause of Ron Paul. Forget the media. They will work against us. We have to rise above them.

            We could organize if this is what we really want. Where there is a will, there is still a way.

          • Jana

            Also, Ron Paul needs to get serious, and show he is serious. It feels like he has just put his name in the pot for a little political clout and that is it.

          • Lala72

            A “libertarian conservative”??? What the hell is that, C.A.B.? You mean, you’re a libertarian that is against gay unions, a woman’s right to choose, and the legalization of marijuana??? LOL. You mean a REPUBLICAN?! Sorry, my friend, there are no varying degrees of libertarianism. This isn’t another trite political party; it’s first and foremost an IDEAL, a social philosophy. Either you believe in it, or you do not, but you can’t vary the means of the message.

            It’s really sad how many of you neo-con nazis have tried to invade our philosophy and alter it by way of our “political party.” Go back to your sheep-herder right wing and fight with your burned out hippy adversaries. We’ll do the real thinking in the world.

          • WARLORDX

            You obviously are more a part of the problem than the solution. Paul’s foreign policy is essentially “leave them alone” and they’ll leave us alone. Just as it was the Founding Fathers’ foreign policy… “commerce with all, entangling alliances with none.” Where does the Constitution authorize Congress to give away our tax money to foreign governments? What does the individual Patriot receive for this expenditure? Where does it authorize the military to establish and maintain military bases and un-declared wars? As Ron Paul says, “If we weren’t there, they would have no reason to be here.” Those of us who served in the military thought we were doing it for God and Country. Reality is we were doing it for corporate gain by insider ‘ruling class’. When I fight again, it will be to enforce my rights described in the Declaration of Independence. And as usual, I expect 90% of the population to benefit from what only 10% of us are willing to do for INDEPENDENCE AND LIBERTY.

            When you vote for the person you think will win rather than your Independence and conscience, we all get trash like Obama and his Democrat cohort. Rethink your policy.

            DE OPPRESSO LIBER

    • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/muslim-organization-criticizes-tea-party-speaker-choice-19901265/ chess game

      Unless the Senate gets more Republican seats, the Republican Congress can only continue to deny obama more spending. Congress repealed obamacare, but the democratic senate approved it. If you want to blame someone, blame obama and his democratic gang in the Senate. This is why we need to fight the demoncraps with tooth and nail. The new Congress has new blood and they know what it needs to be done.
      so far, Michelle Bachmann seems to be the one who is wiling to fight the fight.

      • Thinking About

        Is this the same Michele Bachmann who has her hand in the pocket of American tax payers, who has healthcare provided and needs history lessons?

        • Frank

          History lessions? I’ll bet she knows how many states there are.

          • Bud Tugly

            Questionable.

          • Patty

            Bud – If only you had a brain… Why do you insist upon listening to the MSM? They have vilified every non-democratic candidate out there but they especially vilify the women. Why is that? Do you think that just possibly they want to have the 1st female president? That is what it is all about with them. No substance, just game playing. If you want someone who knows history vote Newt. He has Nobama beat hands down in that department along with everyone else running. But, he would not make a good president. Obama has had more gaffes than GW Bush and Dan Quayle combined but you never hear about them from the MSM. Obama is the one who thinks we have 57 states among other things. And what about all of the utterly stupid stuff that spews from Bite me Biden?

          • Toomuchsense

            Hey Bud, how many states in your county? How old are Obama’s two daughters? Corpsman? Posthumous vets standing in the crowd for Obama’s speech!! Bud you are a worm. You have a right to your opinion, but picking and choosing when to hold someone accountable for graffs, leaves your dirty and lower than pond scum.

      • JeffH

        chess game, I agree 100%. This is the same Michelle Bachmann who made these statements in an NPR interview…yes, an NPR interview and not FOX just so you progressives and liberals understand that some of us conservatives and Libertarians really get information elsewhere.

        “… from the first day I entered Washington, I landed on my feet, and I started fighting against the ‘corruption and the waste’ in Washington, and I think one thing people know about me is that I do what I say, I say what I mean, ‘I have a backbone made of titanium’. I’m not a part of the good ol’ boys club. But that’s something I’m proud of. I’m not ashamed of that. I think that’s part of that common sense”…” I’m committed to the repeal of Obamacare, and that’s something that people want to see”…” I do believe that this is a gangster government”…”President Obama set a high bar for himself. He said if he can’t turn the economy around by the third year of his presidency, then he would likely be a one-term president. I agree with President Obama. I don’t think he deserves a second term. People want someone with a business background, who understands the economy, and will actually make their lives better”…” I have opposed President Obama’s intervention in Libya from the inception”…Obama’s annoucement of the Afghan withdrawl…”seems to be the politics of necessity. And it appears for President Obama that he is acting more on political strategy than military strategy. That’s very concerning, because it also seems that this is more the Obama-Biden plan for early withdrawal, as opposed to the Petraeus plan”…” As president of the United States, I would — knowing that we have a war hero like Gen. Petraeus — I would trust his judgement… We need to trust him on Afghanistan. Simply because he’s demonstrated results”…” I think what we need to do is look at all regulations that hamper job creation. The biggest one of all, of course, would be Obamacare”

        “I would bring in the best economists in America to let us know what impact that has on creating jobs. That’s really the bottom line. I think that all of our regulations, all of our tax code, we need to look at with new eyes. Because clearly the system we have now isn’t working, so we need to look at it with new eyes.”
        http://www.npr.org/2011/06/29/137496659/full-transcript-michele-bachmann-speaks-to-npr?ft=1&f=1001

        • karolyn

          Well, that seals it for sure; she’s for continuing the fight in Afghanistan.

          • JeffH

            ..and continuing the fight in America against the “corrupt” paradigm that exists in Washington DC and in our government. Bachmann is an American Patriot, just as Ron Paul is…something that karolyn obviously can’t or refuses to understand.

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Patty

            Karolyn-it is all in the timing. I think we have accomplished our objective which was to get Bin Laden. Mission accomplished, bring them home. The sooner the better but not at the detrement of the ones we have already lost and to screw this up by getting out too soon.

          • JeffH

            Patty, well said.

          • Jana

            karolynb,
            Do you think you have found the ammunition you were looking for to NOT support or vote for her? Well, you still haven’t.
            As Jeff wrote to you below:
            *******************

            Bachmann says: “Let me tell you this: As president of the United States, I would — knowing that we have a war hero like Gen. Petraeus — I would call Gen. Petraeus into my office. We would have a very short conversation. It would be something like this: It would be, “General, how quickly can we conclude the war in Afghanistan?” No. 2, “What do you need?” And I would, I would trust his judgment.”

            Your words aren’t the same as the ones out of Bachmann’s mouth, quoted from your trusted NPR are they?

            “General, how quickly can we conclude the war in Afghanistan?” and “What do you need?(…to conclude the war in Afghanistan)?”
            Just doesn’t sound like someone who wants to stay in Afghanistan does it?
            ***************************

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            Seals the deal? Since you never would have voted for her, what exactly do you mean?

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Virtually all of our so-called leaders act in their own self interest and always will. As always, naked force is the ultimate arbiter of our destiny. We can only hope it will be used to our advantage.

      • Jack

        Ray, interesting yet so true!

      • OldSice

        A resounding yes to that. Never too late for a Spring cleaning. As for those interested in Ron Paul for president I would suggest using the same strategy as our current presiden did for his election…get the word out via facebook,twitterblogs and all the other various social media networks. And it needs to be done before the Gov’t shuts down the Internet to protect it’s self riotousness.
        If you want to understand the historical path of our country up to present day I would suggest reading Final Warning, A History of the New World Order by David Allen Rivera.

  • Pete

    John Myers sure is right, we are going to see more blood in the streets. We are sure coming up to a “Great Reckoning” of sorts ! Good bye “Grosse Point” ! Good bye Beverly Hills ???!!

    Turn your house into a survival bunker, at least put in a “Panic Room” . I guess it all comes down to how much money you have. The more money and or gold/silver you have, the more the looters can take …

    It’s going to be starving masses, like locust, coming out of the major cities. Kind of like the Korean War, when all those commie Chinese invaded – wave after wave ! The machine gun barrels warped from overheating, just to many commies to kill !! But his time instead of just a million or two, it’s going to be more like 10 million, armed and motivated looters and parasites, coming out of NYC or LA. Then you got to deal with the crazy starving suburbanites, living on their USELESS 1/4 acre of property.. etc.

    I guess America has made a “few mistakes”, NOW WE ARE GONNA’ PAY !!

    • Bert Cundle

      Put the Christians in Consintration Camps, Uniform the Childreen, Teach the Women to Fight. Can’t anyone hear me?

      • http://naver samurai

        Bert, you are told to knock off the Christian bashing. If these things do happen, God, Jesus, and the Bible will be the only things left that will keep this country together, while people like you rip it apart. Got me butthead? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • DaveH

          All of the Freedom lovers need to work together. We need to put aside religious differences and get this job done.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Daveh, I beg to differ, any amount of reading original & biblical history, both American and World History, all of it shows, that any of the Heroic leaders were in fear and consulted their God on constant basis. I realize you are and atheist, that’s not a problem with me nor any of my business. But The problem comes in, when people try to change facts, when they’re in disagreement with the facts. You may want to separate the two because of unbelief, but to a Christian, in their reality, you can’t.

          • Kate8

            Well said, Angelwannabe.

            As Christians, we cannot separate our faith from what we do. Our pursuit of freedom and our determination to save our nation are entirely inseparable (and futile) without trust in God.

            To “put aside” our faith is to render our acts meaningless, and would require putting our trust in man (and money?), which don’t have much of a track record.

        • wayne937

          Samurai, Bert is to be pitied. Anyone who would say things like this is most likely a Hitler Lover. I guess the SS Troops are starting to return again.

          • Gary

            I have seen several comments in here, and in other such blogs, that compare Obama with Hitler. Hitler was a good teacher. When forgotten or ignored, history is often repeated. Obama is counting on the majority of American voters to forget or ignore that dark time of World History and just how Hitler took power because he is following that same path.

            One of the first things Hitler did was to get government control of health care. Obama has done that. Another thing Hitler did was to gain control of the Media. Obama has that. Hitler then confiscated firearms. Obama and Hillary are working very hard behind the scenes to accomplish that.

            A lot of people are still saying Obama is an idiot, dumb and stupid. Never underestimate anyone like that. He is a highly intelligent and cunning man and he knows exactly what he is doing. He has put our country in the fast lane to Totalitarian Socialism and he knows just how to do it. In 2007, how many, outside of Illinois, even knew who he was? When the 2008 campaign started, everyone, myself included, thought Hillary had the nomination in the bag. The primaries were just a formality. This virtual unknown came from left field, took the nomination and the White house. In just three short years, he has risen from an unknown to the most powerful man in the world.

            He has successfully shoved Obamacare down our throats. He got The Food Safety Act and some other controversial legislation done during the lame duck session.
            He successfully got two highly controversial people on the Supreme Court. Before her appointment, Kagan publicly boasted about how she admired Chairman Mao as a compassionate political genius. Not even twenty years ago a statement like that would have killed any chances of ever getting confirmed to the Supreme Court.

            No dummy or idiot could have pulled all that off no matter who was supporting him. Too many people underestimated him, and still do, and he knows how to use that to his advantage. Hitler was also underestimated by the German people. He used that to his advantage and that was how he took over Germany.

            If you can go back and review Obama’s interviews and speeches, you will see that he is doing everything he said he would do with only one exception. He doesn’t have a transparent administration. He even stated during the campaign that, he would rather be a one term President as long as his agenda was met and the country was irreversibly on the way to completing his goals, than to be a two term President and have accomplished nothing.

            The writing was on the wall and the voters refused to read it. I’m not blaming the clowns that voted him into office. At least they voted. We need to get more of those 50% plus off dead center, stop watching sports for a few hours, and vote. That is the only way to defeat him. Obama wants you to think that your vote means nothing because the election is already decided. Then you may stay home on election day and make him happy.

            I’m not saying anything new that I haven’t said many times in the past. I am saying the things that need to be said over and over. Wake up and smell the coffee America before it’s too late. Apathy, not Obama, is the greatest threat to our liberty and freedom.

          • bob wire

            after two years of demonizing all opposition, Bert was just been total absurd to make a point. It was not lost on me.

            but i would encourage Bert from making such absurd, inflammatory statements as it is very self defeating, dangerous and in poor taste.

            Bert, always ! in all things, ~ do no harm. Many times, standing still is seen as progress in the face of adversity.

            If we in America continue down the path many elect to follow today, rest assure we too will see such event unfold in our major cities as well. And “O” will be used as an excuse to justify any and all poor conduct by some. Understand that some people are working today to make this happen, to be like Bert ~ to make a “point”

          • Bert Cundle

            standing still is seen as progress in the face of adversity.

            If we in America continue down the path
            ////////////////////////////////////////////////////
            How about Standing for “United States” not alowing the new age attack from Americans! (No borders supporters)

          • independant thinker

            I have just started re-reading “The Rise And Fall of the Third Reich” and it is amazing how much it reminds me of Obamas rise to popularity.

      • Raggs

        Bert.. I hope that some day I find you knocking at my door.

        • Jana

          Raggs,
          Bert says he is in prison for life, for something he did not do. So hopefully he won’t be knocking at anyones door.

          • Kasi (CONSERVATIVE)

            Ok,just another fine example of what we get to pay for,some wack off in prison getting internet privileges,spouting off about christians.Im glad i get to help pay for that crap

          • Bert Cundle

            My Prison Sentance was for Fighting the Criminal System! To Civilize California, than U.S, You don’t know how many people that have been through the same thing. (M.L.K. was No Civil Rights Leader! He was a Black Power advacate.) Malcom X Was the real Civil Rights Advacate! In”our” Time.

          • Patty

            Kasi – ditto here. There is a cut we can make. Basics only for prisoners.

          • BKWsr

            Bert I do not know how old you are, or do I know you. But I remember Malcom X, and the only cival rights he advocated for was his. He was the black equivalance of David Dukes. He was a crimal with criminal history. He started out as a thug. He was not what the movie portrayed him as. I also remember M.L. King. His name I honor. I listened to, and watched his speaches. M.L.King advocated for peace, and rights for all. Maybe you should rethink your stance and as to why your in prison.

          • Bert Cundle

            I was born in 42, but Released from the womb, in 43.
            I went through the ’70s in awe… The Hippy Movement, Million Man March, CIVIL RIGHTS FIGHTERS ( Both Sides Pro/Con.) Gov. Wallice Saying: NOT IN MY SCHOOLS! To the Fed’s Bussing the Blacks to White Schools & White Kids bussed to the Geto Schools. For M.L.K.! Malcom sayed: Be Proud you are Black, & Keep to ourselves! This Nation has been on the down slide ever since, Malcom was hushed up, & M.L.K. Was Cannonized!

          • Bert Cundle

            Not that our White Presidents were any good! Bush Family Dynesty Destroyed My Country!

          • Angel Wannabe

            and Bert, Bush may have started destroying America, but Obama is riding in for the kill!!!!!

          • Jana

            Bert,
            A lot of us “fight” the criminal system as well as the governmental system, but we aren’t in prison. It’s because we choose to do it where we CAN make a differnce. At least we are trying to make a difference without cutting our nose off to spite our face.

          • Patty

            Everything I checked on the net says they do not have access to the internet or it is severly restricted. I think he is blowing smoke if he posts a lot or he is severly restricted and you won’t hear from him a lot.

      • Vagabond

        bert you sound like an absolute IDIOT,

      • http://yahoo.com sharon

        Bert I sure hope nobody can hear such stupidity

      • Carlucci

        “Burnt Candle” has lost his marbles.

        • independant thinker

          Are you sure he ever had any.

          • Average Joe

            That was my first thought….lol

      • slapjack

        Bert, You’ve gotta real problem dude.

        • Bert Cundle

          BEAM ME UP SCOTTY . . .

      • Flynn

        It would help if you would learn how to spell.

      • DC/Tex

        “O”ne “B”ig “A”ss “M”istake “A”merica
        ENOUGH SAID!!

      • VIRGINIA

        BERT– U ARE IN SERIOUS NEED OF MEDS OR SEE A PYSCHIATRIST–YOUR COMMENTS OF PUTTING CHRISTIANS IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS IS FROM SOME ONE WITH A SICK MIND. PLEASE -FOR UR SAKE GET SOME HELP! YOU ARE “NOT WELL”.

        • BKWsr

          If I understand correctly. Bert is a follower of Malcom then he is a muslim. So of course he feels all christians should be in consintration camps along with all the other infedels.

        • Bert Cundle

          How possible do you think that would be?????

          • Bert Cundle

            We can’t even get rid of the illegal alians…

      • BDOG

        Hey Adolf Hitler, Lighten up idiot.

      • Jack

        Bert, do society a favor! Specifically, pay someone to terminate your existence as I am certain you lack the courage to do so!

        • karolyn

          What an assinine thing to say!

          • Jay

            Perhaps not, they shoot horses don’t they? BTW, I would think you would be in favour of what the above poster suggested, didn’t you state, and on many occasions; “Gee weez, what’s wrong with death? Duh, after all, I believe in re-incarnation, and death, is only a sweet freedom from this big-bad world! And guess what? You get to do it all over again! Yeah hoo, no, I’m not an idiot!

          • Jana

            I think Bert is his own worst enemy.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Bert, I suspect your a plant!… to save time, your rhetoric won’t work!
        I’m just sayin’….

    • Lin

      These so called thieves and looters might come into my house walking but they won’t walk out! I might not be able to get them all but I will get enough of them. I have a right to protect myself and my famiy and I will. I’ve been saying for a long time that our wonderful country will see war on her own grounds and it looks more and more like that will happen. We have a President who has checked out and compaigning is more important to him than running this country. God help us. I just hope when all this breaks out that politicians have to face the same thieves and looters. Think they would wake up then?

  • TIME

    If any of you think this can’t happen here in the USA, well guess what. “Its COMING” and you paid a lot of good money to insure that it happens.
    You have paid the NWO Trillions of your hard earned Dollars stolen from you by way of your TAX dollars.

    You really just gotta love a strong investment, I know the NWO gang of Progressive’s are enjoying the fruits $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ of their labors.

    • Kate8

      TIME – You got it right. Whenever violence and mayhem have erupted in cities and nations, it is always because there are those with an agenda fomenting it.

      The “poor” have been set up…given a free ride and they feel entitled. Then the Left has been seducing them into feeling that they are being somehow shortchanged and deserve more. Rip even what they have out from under them along with inciting them into hatred and resentment toward the “haves” and, of course, organize them into seething mobs, and what do you get…

      We are being set up for street violence. All we hear is how the rest of the world is erupting, and it will soon be here. The PTB, assisted by the media, are making sure of it. People don’t just spontaneously run into the streets at the same time, setting fires and destroying things. They have to be organized.

      If this wasn’t being done deliberately, with a goal in mind, then we’d hear how to cope and stay calm. Rather than showing (and promoting) violence, the media would be showing people working together, finding solutions, helping one another, and maybe even praying for guidance. Why not be saying things like mobs and violence are not the American Way? That we are better people than this, that Americans are about solutions?

      Commies always stir up revolution, and they always do it the same way. And people never figure it out, and continue to fall for it, even to their own demise.

      • Dave

        You are right about the commies. Get this: Obama’s father was a communist, many in his admin. are communists, most of his mentors are communists. Why the hell are we calling this pig a Socialist. He’a a freakin’ commie and should be dealt with accordingly. I prefer the bullet through the head solution, another motherf****r in a motorcade.

        • Kate8

          Dave – You are right about Obama, his associates and his administration being commie. But go further, and you will find out that communism is just a tool of the NWO, as is any other form of government, including democracy (which is only a step away from socialism).

          They don’t care what you call it – communism, socialism, fascism…it’s all headed for the same endgame: total control by a central, world governing corporatocracy.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Dave_ and the 81 Socialists in Congress aren’t helping either!

    • Ray

      Chaos in the streets of America will be a dream come true to this administration. They will then be able to declare Marshall Law and not have to stand for election. God have mercy on America if this happens.

      • karel Eekels

        Be reminded that radical community organizers follow the dictates from Alinsky, ” Reform followed by a Revolution”

    • JeffH

      TIME and Kate8, Hear Hear! The NWO…the “hand that rocks the world’s cradle”.

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Like it or not, the NWO creeps (Bilderburg, et alii) are running the show. They pull the strings of our puppet leaders who do their bidding. Our very survival is in dire jeapordy. Our future is dismal. We, the hapless proletariat, have no champion to wage and win our battle with this all powerful foe. The worst is yet to come.

  • David in MA

    ” it is not hard to imagine similar violence in American cities”

    obozo wants this to take place, then he plans to involk martial law and be dictator in chief for life (or for george soros.)

    • wayne937

      David, you could be right about this.

    • Penny R. Freeman

      That’s true. Clinton, Gore, Obama, and Soros are just a few of the names to be involved in the drive to get a one world government. This has been underway for quite some time. What makes you think violence hasn’t already reached our shores? I don’t remember where it was but some time ago there was rioting in a U.S. city because the city’s team lost their title game. Look at the gangs of young thieves who are more and more going into stores en masse to steal/destroy whatever they can. But we can’t restrict the sale of violent video games to children according to our courts because it would violate first amendment rights. There was an incident in Memphis recently of a mother who used her two children to help her rob more than one Target. She took the kids in the store, got one of those electronic games (I think the news said it was a Wii or however you spell that one), took it out of the box, had the younger child sit on top of it while the other child pushed the shopping cart out of the store where she met them and put what they had together stolen into her car and left. She went on to other Targets and did the same thing using her children. Apparently one of the stores in Memphis warned the one nearby in Mississippi because when she tried the same thing there the police grabbed her before she could get away. I know that’s not an example of violence, it’s an example of how not only has the family broken down in this country but one of the ways parents are corrupting their children. This parent isn’t the first I’ve heard of that used children to commit crimes. I suspect the gangs that are robbing stores in groups are kids whose families are some that are broken. In this country single parent homes are more prevalent than ever. Just one more reason kids lack discipline and never learn to respect authority. Yes American are becoming more and more dependent on the government hand outs and less educated and willing or able to work to earn their way. It’s a sad situation when more and more money is thrown at the public school sytem in an attempt to get children a better education while more and more high school graduates that apply for entry into college can’t even read well enough to pass the ACTs. It’s not money that will fix that situation it’s more involvement by the parents. The better educated the public is the less dependent and more independent we as a people will be. Every change needed to get this country out of our economic mess, away from the corruption of our government, and better educate our children is to rebuild the foundation of this nation by rebuilding the family and teaching children discipline and respect for authority starting with respect for their parents.

      • Kasi (CONSERVATIVE)

        Penny,you are correct,it all starts with the parents first but the parents have handed their children over to the state in the name of “EDUCATION”.I was speaking to a 5th grade school teacher this weekend and she told me that one of her colleagues makes $80,000.00 a year and she is a gym teacher.My point here is that all that money which is more per student than any other county on earth,most of it the kids dont see,its the teachers and the teachers unions or their,pensions.Making 80k a year (oh 3 months vacation per year)and we still have to pay for her pension.just one tiny example of how screwed up things have become due to the left and their “ideas”

        • Jana

          Penny,
          To Clinton, Gore, Obama and Soros you need to add Carter.
          Great post.

      • DaveH

        First, Penny, Authority has to earn our respect.

    • http://yahoo.com sharon

      Obama will call of elections as soon as any touble starts which is what he is hoping for. All planned by Soros and his commie bunch from the beginning. Why can’t one republican grow a spine long enough to start impeachment against Obama for treason.

      • MarkRB

        Trust me…there are state militias countrywide that will not sit by idly while Obama tries to install martial law to suppress the vote.

        • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

          If marshal law is ever declared, the militia movement will be Obama’s first target. I wonder how many of us really have the courage to resist. It takes guts to stand your ground in defense of your God given rights. Let us hope there are enough of us to prevail.

          • Kasi (CONSERVATIVE)

            HERE,HERE I for one am fully prepaired for that which i believe is an inevitable future.The only way to get rid of the venom is to suck it out and that is what our founders had to do.We were never designed to be a democracy but a republic everyday people such as us should be making laws (one per bill) then go back to making our livings the way we did before we were governing for the people by the people.

    • slapjack

      He better think twice. I don’t think the SECRET SERVICE will protect his dumb ass.

      • Kate8

        slapjack – Don’t you think they made sure that the SS agents were O supporters? Especially considering what he was planning to do.

        Don’t know. Just asking.

        • independant thinker

          There will probably be a few agents who oppose obama but the Secret Service as a whole will most likely continue to carry on as usual.

          • DC/Tex

            Sounds like you are talking about Hitler, history repeats it’s self. Why cant we learn from history? Could it be that our public schools are teaching their slanted view of history to promote the current agenda?

          • Kate8

            DC/Tex – Gee, do ya think?

  • Gene

    David in MA echos my sentiments. It’s obvious glorious leader; barack HUSSEIN oblama obama; most merciful, fifth born of the kenyan villlage virgin swine (blessed be his name) could not get re-elected dog catcher. His only hope is to declare martial law and finish his destruction of the Constitution through such. I suspect his entire “presidency” (think banana republiK “presidency”) has had this as a goal from the beginning.

    • Vagabond

      Gene that is all the more reason for stocking up on plenty of AMMO. as well as food,

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a teleprompter pre-loaded with the declaration of marshal law.

  • Greg

    Now the a$$hol*s in Congress want to make more wise use of our tax dollars by allowing the excrement that recieve food stamps for a living to use them on fast food restaurants. These pieces of worthless sh*t haven’t had enough entitlements, they need to be able to enjoy a Big Mac or Whopper on our bill.
    If you need food stamps – use them, but get yourself off of them as fast as possible. Moreover, while you are usiong them, please use them wisely. What food I don’t grow myself, I buy very reasonably. I can feed a family of four for about $40.00 a week if I’m frugle. I’ve never needed food stamps.

    Enough of this rant – you’re all correct. The entitlement system we’ve paid for is now going to bite us in the ass.

    • DaveH

      What else?
      How could any thinking person believe that taking money from the workers and giving it to the non-workers would result in a better economy? Of course the workers are going to work less, and the non-workers are certainly not going to work harder when they are getting money for nothing.
      All we can do, Greg, is hope that the reality sets in soon with the citizens who are not yet completely dependent on Government’s largess with other peoples’ money.

      • JC in CA

        DaveH, sounds like youve read Rev 18. The evil do’ers in washington have taken our millstones, ground them up and made false idols of themselves…..just so WE can say thanks for taking care of us.

        the moral of all these ‘types’ of stories, is be as prepared as you believe you can be. long term food storage, water purification systems.

        talk with your families and friends….develop long term plans and be honest.

        my wife and i had to take a weekend class before we were married…and one of the most important issues that keeps people married is communication…you HAVE to talk about everything…no secrets. 1st comes money…we shall disclose all incomes and liabilities and weigh their importance for the continuation of the union. THEN make decisions based on how they will affect the marriage.

        talk people, friends n families. plan people. our house is not in order.

        may the Grace and Peace of God be with you all.

        JC in CA

    • Vagabond

      Greg they are only buying more votes with our tax dollars,

    • lkar

      Greg, the federal government is not supposed to be in the entitlement business. This should of been left to the states and churches. The enumeration of powers is pretty clear on this.

      • Thinking About

        Whether it is entitlements or any payments to enhance businesses the source is the same. Think you can hoard up food and supplies which can carry you through a long period shows some reality needs to get to you. Ever tried surviving after hurricanes, tornados or floods and you will know it not all about storing up foods.

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      It already has.

  • http://Bloodinthestreets Edward E. Foat

    If we leave God out of the equation, we simply have no other choice (chance). For He is the forefather of this country (America), our inherent forefathers said so, accepted or denied.

    • DaveH

      Edward,
      If God leads you on the correct path to Freedom, Great! But don’t discount those of us who don’t believe but do crave Freedom and respect for our fellow human beings. Our Founders were wise enough to know that. Are we?

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        The thought has never occurred to the vast majority.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Hear, Hear Edward!__That’s alot of our problem today, those that don’t believe, think they have a better plan than GODS. He gave us instruction for life, the Ten Commandments. When unbelievers removed them & prayer from our schools, they replaced them with metal detectors and the police.
      I’d like to ask some of school faculty across this fruited plain, how’s your plan workin out for ya now?__When GOD can’t get our attention GENTLY, you better know he WILL GET OUR ATTENTION one way or the another. God Bless

      • Jana

        Angel W,
        You are so right.

  • http://www.chandostransport@eastlink.ca Graeme B

    Greece is where it is due to corruption. 25% of population works underground in the black markey, 25% “work” for the government and retire at 55, 25% are professionals and business people who never declare their income to be more than $15,000 and theefore do not pay taxes. The other 25% are the poor suckers who have taxes deducted at source and that is what keeps the Greek government afloat.
    When you have th top 5% of US citizens costing the government to borrow $800 billion a year to support their tax breaks and have now added $5trillion to the national debt, then you can see where things are going.
    The Wall Street banksters have never been charged with their recklessness, you have states that have declared that there should be no new tax increases while infrastructure around them crumbles and decays and you start then to understand why Greece has deteriorated to where it is about to collapse.
    A country cannot keep on printing money, increasing the debt ceiling, reducing taxes whilst it continues to borrow recklessly, and you have the sceene set for a Greece happening in the US. It is not if, but when. My reckoning will be this September or October. Don’t tell me the problem is the Government which even now cannot provide basic upkeep of infrastructure, but it is the lack of fiscal prudence that the parties in Washington are not prepared to tackle, with the inevitable collaspe of the whole stack of cards in the very near future,ie this year. The party of “Hell No” needs to become the “Hell Yes” and the sooner the better.

    • Vigilant

      “When you have the top 5% of US citizens costing [sic] the government to borrow $800 billion a year to support their tax breaks and have now added $5trillion to the national debt, then you can see where things are going.”

      You could tax EVERYONE at 100% rate and still not solve the debt problem. The $800 billion you speak of is NOT a cost. Government SPENDING $800 billion that need not be spent IS a cost.

      When we look at the financial profligacy that put the economy of the UK in big trouble, due to social welfare programs, I hardly think we need any advice from that quarter. Wake up, Brit.

      • karolyn

        Excellent article on why budget cuts are bad for state economies.
        http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/06/28-0

        • DaveH

          Get real, Karolyn. Who are you kidding? States are in trouble for one reason only — too much wasteful spending. The results are in, it doesn’t work. You can Hope and Dream all you want, but experience proves your article wrong.
          Here is some reality:
          http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/canadas-spending-cuts-and-economic-growth/

        • DaveH

          And of course the Government spending cuts will result in increased unemployment in the near term. Jobs just don’t immediately get created. It takes time. Remember how the Obama administration and the Liberals whined that we couldn’t expect immediate results from their “stimulus”? Well, it’s been 2 and 1/2 years now. I’m still waiting.
          How can anybody who pays attention think the Government, which can’t run the Post Office, which can’t run Social Security, which can’t run Medicare, which can’t run Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, which can’t run Amtrak, is going to somehow start spending the citizens’ money more productively than the citizens can spend their own money?

          • charlie

            I have long heard, and truly believe, that if all the money in the US was divided equally among all the people in the US, in 30 days it would be right back to where it was originally.

          • Kate8

            The stimulus is, indeed, getting results. Exactly the results they were after.

          • eddie47d

            The Post Office is still a trusted institution and most employees can be trusted to do a good job. The major problem is the 75 billion that the government “borrowed” from their pension fund for other things. Now the Post Office is told to build up those same funds (5 billion per year) while losing money to the internet buyers and to higher gas prices. The Post office(by law) can’t involve/improve themselves in growing their business if it takes away from the private sector. They are definetely stuck in a hole with few ways to dig out.

          • Patty

            Eddie – that pension fund and all gov’t. pension funds should never had existed. You cannot work for 25-30 years and retire for 25-30 years of non production and expect there to be enough at thier rate of pension payments. They will be left out in the cold just like the rest of us fools for getting into 401k’s. None of us will see retirement, why should they?

          • Jana

            karolyn,
            The budget cuts would only be bad for the states if they don’t cut their budgets too.
            State govenments have also overspent. City governments have overspent.
            So have our counties. They have a mentality that it is free money. Well, it isn’t free money and they work for us. We have to start demanding budget cuts in our cities and counties too.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          karolyn, please explain to this reading audience, how much you make in income, how much you spend of that income, how much debt you carry and do you budget? Are you on Government assistance?
          Name for us one civilization, empire, nation or state that has taxed and spent itself to prosperity?

          • eddie47d

            Sweden! By the way they will be 80% energy efficient within 10 years. They must be doing something right.

          • Bleh

            eddie47d says:
            “Sweden! By the way they will be 80% energy efficient within 10 years. They must be doing something right.”

            http://www.economonitor.com/blog/2011/06/go-swedish-part-47/
            Apparently Sweden had a 3.6% surplus Prior to the 2008-09 recession and I am assuming do not have a drunken wasteful spending problem as they appear to be “Sane”.
            Here in the US we do not have a revenue problem, but instead have a spending problem. If our Government could reign in the drunken spending of the “insane” for a similar surplus, I bet we would be in excellent shape. Unfortunately no matter how much revenue our Government gets they have this “insane” need to spend more than they receive. That is the problem and that will likely continue to be the problem for the foreseeable future.

          • DaveH

            Eddie knows nothing about Sweden. Here is the truth from a Swede:
            http://mises.org/daily/4936

          • eddie47d

            Dave is at least 90% negative about everything and anything. All he finds is Conservative organizations which does the same no matter how well another country is doing.I doubt if most Americans sabotage the good things in this country like you do for your twisted version. Your way or the highway,right Dave. Sweden IS doing good so stop throwing glass in another countries eyes because it doesn’t fit into your scheme of things. You like to brag about cities like Singapore and Hong Kong but they can’t be compared to a whole country. Take the best that all have to offer and get this country moving.Sweden has a fairly good track record so give their excellent accomplishments a chance.

          • eddie47d

            Another thing Mr anti-union troll(that’s you Dave) for the corporate Elites. Sweden has a company called IKEA which pays it’s employees $19 an hour,does well,has a good safety record ,5 weeks vacation from the company. They also have a few stores in the USA but the one in Virginia called Swedwood IKEA start out paying $8 an hour and doesn’t go much higher. This is a wood working plant which builds the furniture for the company and they have few benefits. They also have mandatory overtime and employees are forced to work on weekends when asked and they ask this on Friday nights. How thoughtful of them especially when management put’s “lost worktime” in their files and can be used against the employees even after 40 hours. . What’s the difference, UNIONS. Sweden pays well with unions and the country does well. American companies stop unions and pay crap and our country does poorly. Not only that IKEA USA is run by American corporates who hire anti-union thugs (lawyers) to force these companies to keep paying low wages and few benefits. These lawyers(Jackson Lewis Firm) get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this. Yes Dave that is the American way! So if there is rioting in the streets in the USA take a look at your corporate Elites who treat some employees like crap while they hire lawyers to keep them that way.

          • JeffH

            This is for eddie…

            Nontent: Something expressed through some medium, as speech, writing, etc; that is empty or devoid of any substantive matter, whose only purpose is to perpetuate or justify the existence of the container/medium within which it exists.

          • eddie47d

            What’s the matter Jeff did I catch Dave blowing hot air and you had to come to his rescue? Then you come with nothing!!

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Socialism prevails. What to do?

    • jibbs

      Graeme B, the top 5% and their tax breaks are not the problem! It’s the 50% plus that don’t work and the government that are the problem!! Wake up and do some research and stop relying on the gubment and msm for your info.

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        If your assessment is correct, what can we do about it?

        • Patty

          Stop paying your taxes is a non-violent way. If you want to kill the snake, cut off its’ head.

          • DaveH

            Patty,
            That would be an exercise in futility. Not only would it probably get you thrown in jail, but it wouldn’t work anyway. Government would just borrow it from the Federal Reserve and keep on Spending, taxing us the hidden way — Inflation.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            Dave is right. Plus it would end up costing us a lot more for – -
            get ready for the bad word- – - lawyers.

          • Patty

            Dave and Jana-All true. I was just pointing out a non-violent way to make a point. Our borrowing power is all but gone. If it takes bankrupting this country, ok. Not that we are not already there. I have been preparing for this. I can live for about a year and not spend money. Anything I owe on (home) I can walk to my bank and pay in USD. That is what my loan contract says I have to pay in. Property taxes, same thing. I have items to barter/trade. The money stashed has already been taxed. I rotate my stash of gas. I just think that if the tax payers stopped paying, they would have to negotiate with us. Give me a red pen, I can get that budget balanced, never touch social security or medicare and have money left over. I would do it the same as we all do our own home budget, just add more zeros.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            You said give you a red pen, you could slash that budget. I would love to give you a red pen for that. The problem is we could all do some common sense budget slashing from the Gov’t. How come our ELELCTED Reps can’t?

          • Patty

            Jana – Because they are self serving idiots, on both sides.

    • JC in CA

      Graeme B, the October you speak of is the reduction of reserves required by the banks…-accounts go to 0%..used to be 3%, accounts > $25mil —-> go to 0%..used to range from 8-14%.

      Federal Reserve Act (1913,…ammended in 2006)-Section 19

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section19.htm

      Reserve requirements.
      Each depository institution shall maintain reserves against its transaction accounts as the Board may prescribe by regulation solely for the purpose of implementing monetary policy–
      in the ratio of not greater than 3 percent (and which may be zero) for that portion of its total transaction accounts of $25,000,000 or less, subject to subparagraph (C); and
      in the ratio of 12 per centum, or in such other ratio as the Board may prescribe not greater than 14 per centum (and which may be zero), for that portion of its total transaction accounts in excess of $25,000,000, subject to subparagraph (C).

      All those warm fuzzy snippetts of the printing presses churning out $100′s in sheets…that will cease October 1, 2011.

      Be prepared people. Help yourselves before the obozo-zombies take to the streets.

      May the Grace of God be with you all

      JC in CA

      • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

        Goodbye cruel world !!!

    • lkar

      Here we go. Graeme B is showing us the light by blamiong the “rich fat cats”. The reality is there are producers and consumers. Tax the rich (by Democratic definition is anyone making over $250k). This catagory of income is largely responsible for producing. Thus what they produce will have a price placed upon it to consume. Increase the cost of production (increase taxes) the cost to consume goes up. Who the he!! do you think is going to pay for that? The poor people. Blame the rich, but it is the lowest consumers that suffer from reckless taxation without constrained spending.
      I suppose you still blame Bush!

      • independant thinker

        “I suppose you still blame Bush!”

        Most likely does. Do you notice the similarities between his post and eddies post on the same subject.

        • eddie47d

          I.T. Why thank you! Looks like you are still in denial about Bush and a few other Presidents(including Obama)who are chained to the corporate elites who can make or break a nation. They can strengthen a nation or bring it down. The Corporate elites have become governments onto themselves and they certainly have their defenders like yourself.

          • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

            The corporate elites seem to be in charge. The question remains, what can we do about it?

          • Angel Wannabe

            LTC (Rt) Ray Burke, ..PRAY!

          • Jana

            eddie,
            So have unions, but you defend them.

    • Bleh

      When will you fools learn that tax breaks and/or lower taxes, does not cost anything?
      Spending costs the Government money and it SHOULD NOT spend what it DOES NOT have! This is a simple truth and you can see the consequences of violating it in Greece as we speak.

      The people’s money belongs to the people! The people’s money DOES NOT belong to you or the Government! The people’s money IS NOT untaxed Government funds! The people earned it, not the Government and not the Government teat suckers!
      This belief of lower taxes and tax breaks costing anyone anything is asinine!

      • don

        go on line and look up the obama deception. i watched it and found it very disturbing. its been out a few years now but i can see why we’re in the shape we’re in.

      • Marc

        As regards Blood in the Streets, which boiuls down to monetarism and Economics, this whole world needs to go back to : every single paper Note in circulation Must be fully backed by a Silver or Gold COIN, fully redeemable, upon request, by the bearer of the Note. Zero inflation, no more Voodoo E#conomics.
        We have abandoned the old way – “Good as Gold.” Paper was ONLY good as gold when it was fully backed AND was redeemable in Coin (aka “Lawful Money” – not legal tender ).
        Me personally – I’d arrest every single Central Banker (bankster) and their investors for Treason. Start over. The House of Cards is falling down, imploding. Rome is burning boys and girls.

      • Joe C

        All we need for a federal government is a President and a Department of Defense. We could get rid of the big spending Congress, federal taxes, cabinet departments, and let states care for themselves. Elect the President and he serves at his own expense. States send a couple of bucks that they tax each family to the Defense Department. States could run the rest. Americans could once again become responsible for themselves. We could move to whatever state offered the best deals. America would be rich beyond belief and no more corrupt than it is today. The nation’s new motto: Dog eat dog!

      • BUCK CROSBY

        In todays America your hard earned money doesn’t belong t you , it ALL belongs to the federal reserve . Don’t believe me ? Ask them .

      • Paul Revere

        The British run Oligarch Globalists are raising hell and the ( Privately Owned ) Federal Reserve is no exception to some of the strongest Tyranny being used on Americans! Get rid of the Federal Reserve and the Globalist Pro – Politicians will evaporate before our very eyes!

        They are seriously afraid of “Ron Paul”, he has their number!

        The American Dream By The Provocateur Network: Find out in ½ hour, what Ben Bernanke, Timothy Geithner and the Private Federal Reserve are doing to your money!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU#%21

  • Ralph Roshto

    Patriots,
    Stock up on the essentials, like food, medicine, and fuel, but most importantly, BUY AMMUNITION! A shotgun will not only discourage a crowd, but will also be able to harvest food. Soon, the ammunition will not be available, because the government will stop ALL sales of weapons and ammunition once the revolution erupts. Have an escape route planned, and don’t rely on cell phones, as the government will cut these off too. Plan on alternate safe houses. Gather the people in your neighborhood and establish plans for watches and patrols. When the collapse occurs, it will be surprisingly fast. Newscasts will be government controlled, if not altogether eliminated. Stock up on everything you will need to sustain your family in case of long periods of no electricity. You will not have refrigeration. Be prepared…society will break down to thugs leading gangs of bandits who prey upon those people who are not prepared, and will not hesitate to take over you, your family, and your town. After all, what do they have to loose once they loose their precious government handouts! And THEY will be ARMED!
    Teach your wives and children how to shoot a gun. Teach them how to be aware of strangers casing your homes and neighborhoods, slowly driving by to check out who is there, and who can be easily taken advantage of. When the phones and power goes out, there will be no calling the police…the police will be busy defending their own families.

    Be prepared. Be ready. It’s inevitable. The revolution is coming…again.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Semper Paratus….I always say……haw!

      • Dan az

        Cawmun cents
        Coasty?

    • Bert Cundle

      You trust your neighbors?

      • Cawmun Cents

        Neighbors possibly……strangers…not hardly.Momentarily you may trust your neighbor….but you must always remain vigilant.As for casers and mid-nite visitors,thump their melons.

      • http://naver samurai

        I agree with you CC. Bert, I guarantee that I’d trust my neighbors in a fight more than I’d trust you. You sound like you don’t know which end of a weapon you point at the enemy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Dan az

          Samurai
          That would be a good thing!

        • Bert Cundle

          BUT; I KNOW MY FOE…

          • Kate8

            Bert – God and Constitution loving, patriotic Americans?

          • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

            I only wish there were more of us with those noble beliefs. Our society has been contaminated with an overwhelming influx of third world rabble with a socialist, something-for-nothing mindset. Nothing in politics happens by accident. Why do think Obama and his wily handlers are so determined to inflict amnesty on the Country?

          • Bert Cundle

            God as discribed by who? A god that sent his son to die for the fathers sins? [YES]
            Constitution, of the U.S. Been Trampled by the States, useing the Penal code ( Criminal CODE.) & Vehicle Code. [NO]

          • Cawmun Cents

            Then you know the three knows Bert?

      • jibbs

        Bert Cundle says:
        June 29, 2011 at 8:10 am
        You trust your neighbors?

        Bert Cundle,
        The real question is, do YOUR neighbors trust YOU?

  • http://suddenlink Danal

    This has been Obama’s plan from the beginning. That’s why he wants bigger government and unions! They are to make up his fighting force along with illegal aliens. It’s sad but there is no stopping it if the debt limit is raised. The FBI, Congress & Senate know he is not qualified to hold the office of the President of the United States, but they are not doing anything about this??? I would say that they are in with the whole thing!!!

    • DaveH

      Most no doubt are in with it. We get what we wished for when we took the smooth talkers at their word and took away other peoples’ freedoms because we didn’t share them. The leaders play us like fiddles, as they appeal to one side or the others pet peeves, and keep growing the Government bigger. The only way things are going to change is if we can come to grips with the reality that we must respect the freedom of others if we want them to respect our freedom.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      Exactly Danal .

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Spot on, my friend !!! How else will Obama achieve his fiefdom?

  • http://bobathome.com Bob

    Ralph Roshto = you beat me to it. Well said. AMEN

  • http://bobathome.com Bob

    Most Americans have their head in the sand. Hey – Ignoring something does not make it go away.

    What are most going to do when and if someone tries to harm you and your loved ones?

    You have a God given right and a 2ND Amendment guarantee to protect yourself and loved ones (at least for now). The government is slowly trying to abolish the 2ND Amendment.

    Police? Ha! Remember they COME AFTER THE FACT – if at all.

    Remember? “Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6″

    For those of you who are Bible believers: Paraphrased “Anyone that does not provide/protect his own family is worse than an infidel.”

  • http://BobLivingston no1rightway

    More rightwing fear-mongering.

    • karolyn

      Exactly! Just perpetuate the negativity to insure that the crap hits the fan. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

      • S.C. Murf

        Karolyn, you keep doing nothing so you can be one of the first to be raped and killed in the very first wave of violence, then we won’t have to listen to your feel good crap anymore. please make that popping sound

        up the hill
        airborne

        • karolyn

          And you are doing what???? At least I’m putting more good vibrations out to counteract the negativity. Have a wonderful day, SC! :-)

          • Alex

            Your kind response to SC Murk is so civil as to fry his tiny mind, Karolyn. Sadly, civility is lost on the sheeple of the Right—they thrive on hostility, fear, and violence.

          • S.C. Murf

            I would like to see how many rounds good vibrations will stop, I’ll get back with ya in about a year and see how that went for you.

            up the hill
            airborne

          • tsunami

            Karolyn. People are scared and have little to no hope for their future and that or their kids and these sites and their rants are a way of showing that they are not alone out there and is a way of letting off some steam.

            Most of my friends here in Canada are in the see no evil and hear no evil camp and it concerns many of us that they are not more aware of just how precarious the world economic situation really is. Here people are not saving any money nor having any plan for their future and relying on the Gov. to save them. That is just plain stupid.

            While your current crop of politicians are contributing to the US problem and in denial the stage was set for this 20 years ago with a series of decisions by your various politicians and things appear to be coming to a head and we all had better get prepared for what is coming. Prepare financially (save some money, buy some silver or gold coins) prepare emotionally, prepare for your safety if things go bad , like an insurance policy and hope you never have to use it.

            I fear that women and kids will bear the brunt as they usually do in major social unrest.

          • DaveH

            Karolyn smiles as she sticks the knife in our backs and steals our money:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wKyXA_nMVQ

          • karolyn

            You’re a real card, Dave! It’s too bad you don’t know anything about me.

          • karolyn

            S.C. – In a year I’ll be in even better shape than I am in now! :-)

          • Conservative at Birth

            You obvioulsy have not studied history, or read any books. I sugguest you read F.A. Hayek, Henry Haalet, Ludwig Vommises, Ayan Rand, Thomas Sowell, Walter Wiliams, Mark Levine, Dick Morris, Glenn Beck, etc. before you write any more comments on this site. Oh, I’m sorry, that wouldn’t be possible until you change from an ostrich to a thinking human being.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, ignorance has never been a good excuse for ignorance.

        • Alex

          airborne? What the heck is that? The kind that drops bombs on sleeping babies?

          Your wicked response to Karolyn is indicative of you and your fellow Reich Wingers hatred and lack of tolerance. You should be ashamed of yourself, but then most of you people have no shame….

          Bob Livingston usually removes the most vile postings on here, mine included. How your pathetic and hurtful emission of GAS is still here raises big questions.

          • S.C. Murf

            alex I can tell from your response that you are a coward, and your ignorance shines like the little boy you are. Time for you to move out of your mommy’s basement and make that popping sound

            up the hill
            airborne (something alex will never understand)

          • DaveH

            Don’t let Alex kid you. He will be right there with them as the Socialists attempt yet another one of modern history’s purges.
            He backs up the Socialists constantly on this site as they forcefully take the money of others.

          • libertytrain

            just to remind alex that his own tacky vile attacks on folks are left on so what right does he have to choose what is vile?

          • jibbs

            You are a true idiot!

          • Jana

            S C Murph,
            Alex is so worried about bombs on babies but yet he and karolyn would kill an innocent baby without even looking back.
            Double standards.

          • DaveH

            Moral consistency isn’t one of Karolyn’s strong points, Jana. But she has her magic mirror to assuage her guilt and assure her that she really is Cinderella.

          • eddie47d

            She has more moral rectitude than you do especially since you are always accusing others of taking your money, What a Hoot!

          • Kate8

            karolyn is a virtual study in contradictions.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            What about your morals? Most times they are pretty hard to find.

          • eddie47d

            Point them out Jana and we’ll see what you come up with.

          • Jana

            eddie,
            That’s what i’m saying. I can’t point out your morals. You don’t show them that often.

      • Alex

        Crybaby neo-conartists of the Fright Wing use fear, like the Nazis did, to sow unrest in the population and intolerance of others.

        The Reich Wing sheeple believe studies and statistics that match their myopic vision, but dismiss anything that does not. Take note of their dunder-headed, Big Oil-fueled dismissal of even the wisp of a notion of Global Warming—-they are like the cancer victim who goes through 99 doctors, all of them providing a grim diagnosis, until they find the ONE doctor who says everything is okay. Well, here is one scientific and non-partisan study result sure to get their pants wet: examination of brain activity shows that the liberal and tolerant mind is wired to best deal with complex issues and problems, while the conservative brain is most suited for wallowing in FEAR. HAA!! Gotta believe THAT study….

        • S.C. Murf

          Alex, you have to make that popping sound boy

          up the hill
          airborne (something alex only dreams about)

        • cali

          Alex,
          Watch this with an open mind. Then ask yourself…

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOdNZalmjug

        • Vagabond

          alex I have becom convinced. you sir are an IDIOT,

        • DaveH

          Alex shows regularly on this board how the Liberals disrespect their fellow man. Yet, he expects us to believe that he is compassionate and peaceful. Sure, Alex, whatever you say.

          • eddie47d

            He’s no more belligerent than posters on your side of the fence. So get real.

          • DaveH

            They have a reason to be upset. Alex, you, and your fellow Liberals are stealing their money. It seems odd to me how often you whine about workers being underpaid, and then turn around and advocate for the taking of other peoples’ money.
            Let’s just put all your faux fairness aside, Eddie, and admit that you don’t care if it’s right or wrong, you just want other peoples’ money.

          • JeffH

            eddie says “He’s(Alex)no more belligerent than posters on your side of the fence. So get real.”

            LMAOL!

            As if he had a clue of what reality is…It’s been said before and it’ll be said again, time after time, that “you just don’t get it” do you!

            Like a pinball, he’ll just bounce around never nowing where he’ll bounce to next…but one thing is for certain that wherever he hits there will be an “e’ism” that follows his arrival.

            If it weren’t for the cents in his pocket he’d have no sense at all. :)

          • eddie47d

            I’m still looking for all that money Dave that you say I am after. That is another one of your famous ambush comments which says and means nothing since it isn’t true. I reckon you always have to be wound up about something so you just make it up as you go.

        • Patty

          Alex – please back up what you spew. Where is your resource? Show us the study.

        • DaveH

          Are you still beating that poor dead horse, Alex? The Global Warming Hoax has been exposed for many months now. It’s Political, that’s all. It’s purely a way for the rabid redistributionist Liberals to foist their uneconomical alternative energy schemes on the rest of us.
          For truth:
          http://climatedepot.com/a/11606/Morano-The-scientific-reality-is-that-from-AZ-the-scientific-case-for-manmade-climate-fears-has-collapsed

          • eddie47d

            Not true Dave,no such thing has been “exposed”. A few hyped up errors yes but the reality of climate change is still working it’s thread through the world. Dig a little deeper and even you might see the light. It won’t be long before you will be wishing for that alternative energy source to fuel your air conditioner in Arizona.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, you just hurt eddie’s feelings…again! Of course he’s incapable of comprehending the the difference between “naturally occuring” climate change and the extremist’s myth of “man made” climate change. Afterall, it is eddie…who just “doesn’t get it”!

          • Jana

            Hey Jeff,
            Maybe eddie is really Al Gore.

          • eddie47d

            The news said today if global warming continues we could be having an increase in global warfare. So bury your heads in the sand and reap what you sow.

          • Patty

            Eddie – Research past the talking points. Climate is cyclical. Just like humans. 7 year cycle pre-puberty, 14 puberty, 21 post puberty, etc. Where do you think they get the term 100 year flood? You could go back even further if they had kept records. Gore and GE (how much bigger corp. conglomerate you want to pick) are cashing in on a cycle. It has taken them so long to buffalo everyone that now we are starting to cool. And they are blaming that on climate change. Talk to a farmer. At mine, I have the year of the frog, year of the snake, year of the grasshopper, etc. It is all cyclical. This is the biggest scam to tax your every breath. If Gore really believed this crap, would he be consuming the energy of an entire suburb of 50k residents on his own? Think about it. Don’t just be a mouth piece for talking points. You need to read more. Experience more.

      • BKWsr

        So karolyn and no1 are you saying those riots in Cali, New Oleans, Chicago, Florida, and a few other states never happened? Are you saying this is all some made up stories just to scare us. If not then why are you calling this scare tactics by right winged fear mongers. Most people hear would definately not call me right wing. Though I do support them over your left handed views.(except 1). So instead of just calling names give a stance. Just becuase we have differnt apinions, And I think your dunce doesn’t give me a right to call you one. So why the typical comments you guys like to make. Is it because you actually know they are right.

        • karolyn

          I didn’t say they never happened. I just feel that the talking heads pereptuate the hate and anger that drives them in the first place. They never write anything good. “As ye think so shall ye be.” Dwelling on the negative only begets more negative.

          • BKWsr

            It is a shame that in all of our news networks that the stories most reported are these sad crimes we read about. This network is an informative type that is out only to report to people these events that the majority of these people on here support. We all have our differnce in apinions. What is important is we understand that no 2 people will have the exact same apinion. Another thing important to remember is we can’t hide from the truth. You can’t deny your neighbors house is on fire when evidence says it is. The same for crime. The only reason the criminal hasn’t robbed you yet is because he knows you are ready for them, or they just haven’t noticed you yet.

          • jibbs

            karolyn says:
            June 29, 2011 at 9:33 am
            I didn’t say they never happened. I just feel that the talking heads pereptuate the hate and anger that drives them in the first place. They never write anything good. “As ye think so shall ye be.” Dwelling on the negative only begets more negative.

            *********************************************************************** You say “they” never write anything good, but you have to admit, “they” are telling the truth.
            Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
            It seems to me that you only want to hear good things, does the truth some how hurt your view? BTW, thank the dems(LBJ) for putting S.S. into the general fund and wasting it.

          • MarkRB

            Karolyn, I think what people on here are trying to say to one another, is be prepared. It’s not fear-mongering to try to prepare for what it seems is coming. Remember Katrina? It took all of 3 days for civilization to break down. What do you think is going to happen when food becomes scarce, or power goes out, or people’s welfare checks stop coming and they have nothing to fall back on? I like to know that I can survive on my own without the government’s help, and be able to protect myself from people who have not prepared and will be looking to take whatever they can. So yeah, carry on with the good vibes, but when the s### hits the fan, you’re going to need more than those vibes to survive.

          • Jay

            And you are a prime example of such!

      • DaveH

        Karolyn,
        You can tiptoe through the tulips with Tiny Tim all you want. But don’t waste your time trying to push your negative opinion of our opinions on us.

        • karolyn

          Dave – I told you I’d vote for Ron Paul if he’s nominated. Isn’t that enough?

          • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

            karolyn, explain to this reading audience why you would vote or Ron Paul? Clear up your confusion for us please.

          • karolyn

            WIA – Because I believe in ending the war on drugs and change in the government. I don’t agree with his stand on abortion, but at least he leaves that to the states. In general, I really do believe in smaller government. However, if it comes down to Obama vs. Rommney (or Bachmann or Palin), I will certainly vote for Obama.

          • JeffH

            …and there you have it folks…”if it comes down to Obama vs. Rommney (or Bachmann or Palin), I will certainly vote for Obama.”

            Clueless, totally clueless!

            By the way, Romney = yuck! :(

          • Patty

            Karolyn – Why wouldn’t you vote for Bachmann or Palin? Because the ONE issue you don’t agree with them on is abortion? The one? I will personally guarantee you, they will not touch abortion’s legality. Who pays for it maybe, but it will never go away. So, with that off the table, why would you not vote for one of those 2?

          • karolyn

            Patty – Bachmann does not want to leave Afghanistan. I don’t know Palin’s stance, but who does?

          • Jay

            Karolyn stated:Patty – Bachmann does not want to leave Afghanistan.

            Can you back that up, you slanderous hypocrite? Its obama and the greedy whores he sleeps with that will never leave the middle east, or Afghanistan, for that matter!

          • Kate8

            karolyn – You won’t vote for Bachmann because you think she won’t leave Afghanistan?

            Obama won’t leave Afghanistan. In fact, he’s spreading wars across the middle east.

            Yet, you will vote for him.

            Hypocrite, indeed.

          • JeffH

            karolyn says “…Bachmann does not want to leave Afghanistan. I don’t know Palin’s stance, but who does?”

            Bachmann says: “Let me tell you this: As president of the United States, I would — knowing that we have a war hero like Gen. Petraeus — I would call Gen. Petraeus into my office. We would have a very short conversation. It would be something like this: It would be, “General, how quickly can we conclude the war in Afghanistan?” No. 2, “What do you need?” And I would, I would trust his judgment.”

            Your words aren’t the same as the ones out of Bachmann’s mouth, quoted from your trusted NPR are they?

            “General, how quickly can we conclude the war in Afghanistan?” and “What do you need?(…to conclude the war in Afghanistan)?”
            Just doesn’t sound like someone who wants to stay in Afghanistan does it?

          • DaveH

            It does sound, Jeff, like Michele comes straight down into the militarist camp:
            http://www.michelebachmann.com/issues/security/

          • eddie47d

            Jeff;Petraeus supports the war (obviously).The question should be to Michelle ,”What is she going to do if Petraeus doesn’t give her the right answer”. Nixon also promised to end the Vietnam war and quickly. It lasted another 5 years. Obama could even surpass Nixon’s pandering to the public and the Generals. We’ve all been blinded before by all those lights at the end of the tunnel.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, Bachmann has expressed frustration with the war in Afghanistan in the past, telling CNN in May that she was, “tired of Afghanistan and Iraq, too. I think we need to get out. I think Afghanistan is — on many, many levels, it doesn’t seem we’re gaining any ground. I want to reduce U.S. exposure in Afghanistan. So, let’s get them out as quickly as we can,” before adding that “generals on the ground” should be the experts on troop decisions.

          • JeffH

            eddie says…”Jeff;Petraeus supports the war (obviously).” Is that a conundrum?

            How can you even make a statement like that? Obviously? Think man, think…just once before you speak!

            What is Petraeus job to do as a General and commander of ISAF?
            Hint: Obey his Oath of Office(oath for commissioned officers) and obey and support the commander in chief.

            Show where Petraeus(0bviously)supports the war?

          • eddie47d

            Pretty soon Jeff will be saying black is white if it doesn’t fit his definition at the moment. Get over your arrogance Jeff for I see a green cloud coming from you and it doesn’t smell right.

    • Vigilant

      Both of you, re-read the article. I hardly think James Carville can be considered a conservative.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Vigilant, Bill O is not a conservative either, he constantly claims to be and Independent, that in itself tell me he goes with who ever butters his toast best. By the way do you know what happened to Helene Curtis? Bill O’Reilly Factor. Just another George Armstrong Custer. Lost his Cajones.

        • Jana

          WIA,
          Agree.

      • Patty

        Carville is a liberal and is married to a conservative.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Carville

    • Vigilant

      And sometimes Chicken Little can give more sage advice than those whose heads remain in the sand and will not see the writing on the wall.

      • Dan az

        Vig
        The day that they realize the hand writing on the wall will be when they are the very ones in the streets rioting because of the lack of food stamps and freebies that they will know longer have.If they would notice that the ones that are rioting are them and not the working conservatives that feed them they would realize that their time has come and that alone scares them.The first to die will be the hungry and it may not be by way of starving.It will be by lead poisoning!

        • karolyn

          Well, you’ll surely never find me rioting.

          • jibbs

            karolyn says:
            June 29, 2011 at 10:01 am
            Well, you’ll surely never find me rioting.

            +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Because you will be waiting for your free check that you will never get when the guberment runs out of money, they will take care of themselves in the end, and not you! Doing nothing will only make for a faster death. When TSHTF, it will be too late to try and prepair.
            Good Luck

          • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

            (comment removed)

          • karolyn

            WIA – And how old are you? 12?

          • Jay

            Karolyn stated: You sure will never find me rioting.

            Brainwashed and sedated citizens rarely do, riot that is! Karolyn, “its medication time”, and don’t forget to turn on MSNBC .

          • Jana

            karolyn is an ex hippie. She makes peace, not war. She even used to smoke a peace pipe –sort of– she smoked something anyway.

    • ValDM

      It’s hardly fear-mongering. Many of us are & have been stockpiling food, water, ammo, etc. We will be prepared while you are crying “But we didn’t know.” And you will expect those of us who prepared to take care of you.

      The sad fact of all this is that you’ve been warned repeatedly & are still trying to make this a political football………..if you toss it away (by calling it right-wing), then it isn’t your responsibility anymore.

      • Thinking About

        Hope you have taken advice and installed solar power or installed wind turbines. Have you stored fuel or do you think you will not be surviving more than three days. Get real how many bullets do you plan to eat. Won’t be any Internet to announce you are still alive either.

  • James R. Maxwell

    The goal of the Socialist liberals in Washington DC is to have American rioting in the streets then they will have an excuse to try
    and take aways guns from Americans and declare martial law so they
    can abolish elections until the country is “Stable”. That is all the
    excuse the need to destroy our nation and return to the days of Kings and Queens. If you doubt this look to what they are doing daily
    to your freedom and liberty. The politicians are placing more and
    more restriction upon the lawabiding Americans citizens. This is
    the most corrupt regeim the United States has ever seen. They are
    fulley commited upon destroying the Constution of the United States
    and establishing their own delusional form of government.

    • http://google gary gerke

      James, you are right on the money. The approximate 600 FEMA camps are being set up for the event of civil uprisings. Many of these camps are already staffed with guards, that would indicate the government thinks civil unrest is a possibility in the very future!

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        gary gerke, can you say Federal Indian Reservations!

        • BKWsr

          The Reservations are a travisty. It is a sad part of US history, But then agaian as with all countries there are sad times and actions in history. The best thing to due for us is to build our selves back up. We get on our feet and say enough. We start with our communities then advance from there. The fight has to continue, only on a differnt leval. But we must always be ready. Our ancestry knows the cost of surrendering our arms.

      • karolyn

        That is a joke!

        • Bleh

          Explain the Camps, the Guards and the training in civil unrest the military (foreign and domestic) have received on US soil then.

        • Jay

          That is not a joke Karolyn, however, the same cannot be said about you!

        • jibbs

          So many words and yet you say nothing, ………no links, no proof, and no self reliance. You should be arrested along with 47d, alex and a few others for aiding an illegal/enemy on U.S. soil!

          • eddie47d

            Jibbs said nothing and he is a malicious joke.We know about the Jibbs on this site. They want to be judge,jury and executioner. He’s out there looking for a strong branch right now.

      • JeffH

        The big question is this, have the FEMA camps ever been used during a catastrophic disaster of any kind?

        Rex 84: FEMA’s Blueprint for Martial Law in America
        The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state.

        The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA.

        Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987.

        ” These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.”
        And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.

        This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~
        humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job discription under the Department of
        Homeland Security.
        It appears Hurricane Katrina also provided FEMA with an excuse to “dry run” its unconstitutional powers in New Orleans, rounding up “refugees” (now called “evacuees”) and “relocating” them in various camps. “Some evacuees are being treated as ‘internees’ by FEMA,” writes former NSC employee Wayne Madsen.

        “Reports continue to come into WMR that evacuees from New Orleans and Acadiana [the traditional twenty-two parish Cajun homeland] who have been scattered across the United States are being treated as ‘internees’ and not dislocated American citizens from a catastrophe”

        Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal ” one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs.”

        The “List of Executive Orders” that FEMA has, it is very clear that they do have quite a bit of power. Examples of the orders state that FEMA may take over all forms of transportation, control all communication, take over all natural resources and electrical power, acquire all farms and food resources, railroads, health facilities, and other important parts of our nation.
        http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_rex84_fema_blueprint.pdf

        • Kate8

          JeffH – Good job coming up with that one!

          We must also remember that we the people have no value to the government except for however they can exploit us. The military has been granted the authority to conduct any kind of experimentation or drills on us they choose to do, and we have no recourse.

          The number of lives they ruin in the process is of no consequence to them. They are out of control, and the government has become a blood-sucking beast that needs to be fed, and fed, and fed…

          Today, we have no other purpose except to serve the elite. When we think FEMA, it’s good to keep this in mind.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, no doubt about it..FEMA CAMPS ARE REAL! Congress Seeks to Authorize & Legalize FEMA Camps

            H. R. 645 – To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.

            Apparently, the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough. Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next.

            With this in mind, it appears as if these so called national emergency centers will be used in a national emergency but only if the national emergency requires large groups of people to be rounded up and detained. If that isn’t the case, than why have these national emergency facilities built in military installations?
            http://www.uaff.info/hr645.pdf

          • JeffH

            Remember when Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones Police states/FEMA episode that was pulled from the broadcast after intense pressure from the guv on TruTv…Bombshell: FEMA Camps Confirmed

            Here’s the full length video on YouTube for anyone with interested and the time
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXBNRxUIZBM

          • Kate8

            And I might add, well worth watching, if you dare…

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      James R. Maxwell, study American Indian History by A. I. scholars, we fought for freedom and will continue to do so for our Indian Country, what makes you think we won’t again. In my cold dead hands!

      • Average Joe

        I am a firm believer that everything the Government stole from the Indians should be given back ASAP!….Unfortunately, I was not born an Indian…..and I want to slap someone over it…but I’m not sure where to start…..To live in harmony with nature….the Indians had it right and we screwed the pooch on this one.

        • Kate8

          Average Joe – Here we go again with more moronic liberal idiocy.

          Conquest is the way of the world. If every nation had to give themselves over to those they conquered, what a mess…and how far back does one go? Because NO country is populated with its original people.

          And no people have ever been an ideal culture. Much as certain historians (with an agenda) like to romanticize about other cultures, it’s seldom close to the truth. The American tribes were constantly at war with each other, similar to the Muslim tribes have always been. It’s a good lesson in what happens to a divided nation…

          Add to that, not one of us alive today had anything to do with it, yet you would have us all carry the guilt, even as far as making “reparations”. All people’s of the Earth have suffered at the hands of others at some point in history. And no one ancestry has clean hands.

          A better idea is to let go of the past and move forward, determined to become better peoples…together.

          • Average Joe

            Kate8,
            I have no guilt over the matter…as you said, I had nothing to do with what had happened. I do however feel that what was done was wrong on so many levels. As for not being born an Indian, It is all about the culture and heritage that facinates me…and many of their rituals and ceremoies etc, are not shared with outsiders…and these are the things I would like to learn about…but not being born an Indian, precludes me from knowing these things. Maybe deep down, I just long for the simple life afforded in that era…as opposed the insane non stop hustle and bustle world we live in today.

          • DaveH

            Average Joe,
            You’re a Liberal? Is Kate correct? You could have fooled me. No, if you are, you did fool me, lol.

          • Kate8

            I don’t think Average Joe is a liberal It’s the whole give-the-country-back-to-the-Indians thing that comes from the liberal camp.

            Does Austrailia need to hand their country back to the Aborigine? How about Canada? The British Isles were taken from the Celts by the Romans, and the Jews were driven out of the middle east by the Islamic tribes. Of course, the Spaniards pretty much took over Central and South America…let’s see…And the conquest of nations continues to this day.

            My point is, America is not unique in having settled a new land. It’s the way of the world.

            BTW, I have had many close Native friends, and I have studied their culture and, being an artist, have exchanged creative ideas with them for years. I love them all – wonderful, big-hearted people. We do well to listen to their great wisdom on many things.

            Alas, in all of nature, to the victor go the spoils, for better or worse. By the looks of things, the American civilization will soon fall to yet another…I guess you could call that justice.

          • Average Joe

            Me….liberal?……..Hang on still laughing…..Ok , done now …..them’s fightin’ words….lol

          • Kate8

            Average – Read my above post. I know you are not liberal. What you said was typical liberal nonsense, that’s all.

          • Average Joe

            I am still trying to figure out what was “moronic liberal idiocy” in my statements. Was it …to recognize that a group of people were wronged by our government? Was it that when something that has been stolen from someone, that it should be returned? Was it feeling compassion for a group of people who have been wronged by others ( no matter who those people happen to be)? Was it …wanting to live in harmony with my surrondings while doing as little damage as possible to those surrounding? (before someone comments..no, I am not a global warming conspiritor) Maybe it was wanting to live within another cultural group in order to gain another perspective on life from their eyes? Or, could it be being enamored by someone elses culture and heritage?
            I fail to see what it is that you consider “moronic liberal idiocy”.
            I would think that being a “Christian”, you would find all of these traits (compassion, the want of making wrong things right,understanding of other peoples core beliefs and values from their own histories, not wanting to destroy my surroundings through personal responsibility) to be admirable traits (not liberal,conservative or any other collective mindset)…I guess maybe I was wrong about my “Christian” values…either that or maybe yours have been tainted….just a thought……

        • Jana

          Kate8 never said Average Joes was a liberal. She simply stated the ideology was liberal.
          Come on people.

      • jibbs

        I’ve always said, “look what the United States did to the American Indian”. Don’t be fooled, they’ll do it to anyone that gets in the way.

        • Jana

          jibbs,
          I bet you have.

      • Patty

        WIA – The American Indian found a legal way to get it back. Casinos! Take the white (and asian) mans money! Good job! There is always more than one way to scalp a cat!

        • Johnnyrite

          I use to be a borderline racist when it came to North American Indians. My 83 year old uncle that still lives on the family homestead here in Canada that my grandparents settled in 1908. He got me to read some books and helped educate me. A great book really worth reading is: Chief Joseph & the Flight of the Nez Perce: The Untold Story of an American Tragedy.

          You can find the book at Amazon.com

          I live in a large Canadian city and I see a once proud people brought to their knees by the welfare state, alcohol and drugs. It is very sad.

          But no, we can’t turn back time and have a re-do in our history. But maybe we can learn from it. Henry Ford was wrong. History is not bunk.

        • Patty

          I am American Indian. We lost the fight, not the war. In order to do that, they would have to have exterminated everyone of us. So long as humanity exists, there will be give and take. They took for generations and degradated every tribe. But, we are not extinct. We will survive. And we will survive this latest assult on humanity.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            We all will, and we will even be stronger for it.
            Looking back in history, the Indians, the Jews, the Irish, the Blacks, the Japanaese, the Vietnamese and on and on have all had adversity in their history. But we have all been overcomers, and we still are. We are now just called AMERICANS.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

    There has been and still is a disconnect between Washington D.C. and the working tax paying citizens of this country. The Greedy Politicians have over spent for years, I thought George W. Bush was a liberal spender till we got Obama…it is disgusting. The Greedy Politicians have padded their personal accounts along with Wall Street.

    Corporate America has been the Greediest of all and you can see that the mess that we are in presently. I fully expect there to be Martial law implemented in the near future.

    I am in my late fifties, a Vietnam War Era Veteran and paid in $150.000 into the Social Security System in my life-time, but the thieving “Politicians” all over America have stollen all of my money that “I” paid in and the companies that “I” worked for all of my life paid in to Social Security and Medicaid.

    I can assure you that I talk to a lot of people and they all feel as I do, they are sick and tired of “The Politicians and Corporate America” thieviing everything that they have worked for in thier lives.

    I see “Revolt” comming in America’s future and sad to say Martial law. All because of mis-management , thieving politicians , corporate greed and under estamating how upset the American people really are at this point.

    • http://yahoo.com Gale

      And don’t forget the unions.I am 62 and also a Nam era vet. I am now handicapped and don’t own a weapon. I will trust in God for protection. I’ve said for years, I’m ashamed of this country, especially the politicans. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt.

      • Vagabond

        Gale I am 75. a veteran of occupation of Germany. Korea and Vietnam. I do own weapons and I do know how and have no qualms at all about using them for right. and it is very right and moral to defend family and friends, I strongly suggest you buy some weapons and ammo while you still can,

        • S.C. Murf

          Amen Vagabond,
          nam 68, 69, 70

          up the hill
          airborne

      • Patty

        I have a great place to start a commune.

  • Al Sieber

    “Blood in the streets it’s up to my ankles, blood in the streets it’s up to my knees”, it’s coming when a loaf of bread cost $20, when the American people can’t take it anymore, when they lose everything they have. it could happen by December, or Oct., or they could continue the slow torture right up to the elections where we’re promised a solution, it’s called problem, reaction, solution they come up with the problem, see how we react and come up with a solution.. I don’t know how they can hold this country together another year. people need to wake up.

    • Dan az

      Hey Al
      I don’t know exactly when but it will be this year for sure,Know doubt!
      They think because world war 2 got us out of the depression that this time it will do the same.NOT!The lack of industry for one and the true reason were going into world war 3 the other.This time will be nuclear on both sides and the elite have there holes already dug to wait it out.The first nukes will be from us in way of bunker bombs with nuke war heads in iran.Not trying to predict anything just facts that I have found.The good thing is we will have allot less libs to deal with when the sleeper cells start moving.I don’t think during a time of war there will be any such thing as food stamps only bread lines.And the dreaded vouchers for 5 gals of fuel per week.What do you think ?

      • Kate8

        Dan az – A possible scenario some are talking about is that, when things get so bad, maybe a nuke dropped somewhere and people are totally freaked out, there is a fake appearance from extraterrestrials, here to “help” us. It will be so convincing that most will fall for it.

        Someone said that (Kissinger? Can’t recall) that what we need to get everyone to rally behind the NWO is a foe from beyond the Earth, an event that threatens all Earthly humanity.

        One thing we can count on is that the elites have something up their sleeves. And I think you are right about it being this year. 11 is the number.

        • karolyn

          Forget about fake extraterrestrials. It’s getting to be about time to have a visit from the real thing. Don’t forget December 21, 2012 is not that far away. We all just might be very surprised at what happens!

          • Average Joe

            One too many ‘Ludes?

          • Kate8

            “And He caused a great delusion to come over all the Earth because of their defiance, a deception so great that even the elect would be deceived, if it were possible…”

            I have no doubt that the Universe is teeming with life. There’s also a good chance that some travel space, and have probably been here for a long time. Good ones and bad ones.

            The point is, how do we know what’s real and what isn’t?

            We must pray for discernment, that we may not be among the deceived.

          • Patty

            Karolyn-That is the end of the Mayan calendar. Not christian. Mayan was a golden city. It will be the end of the gold standard and the beginning of a public NWO.

      • Average Joe

        I believe that is called “The Hegelian Dialectic”.
        1) The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others
        2) The people react by asking the government for help willing… to give up their rights
        3) The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis
        As Rahm Emanuel says, “Never let a crisis go to waste”…..especially when we can cause the crisis in the first place…..

        • Kate8

          Average Joe – Yep. That’s it.

      • DaveH

        Actually, Dan, WWII didn’t get us out of the Depression. Read this to learn more:
        http://www.independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_01_4_higgs.pdf

      • Al Sieber

        Dan, I hear you. there must be 25 million unemployed in this country and about 43+ million on food stamps, and how long will they keep people on unemployment? everything ends eventually. but you have a good point there. my son is working in Kingman for a few weeks now, and he wants me to get him a job at the mine near Oatman, they pay $28 a hour and he’s a diesel mechanic for Waste Management out of Flagsaff now but, I think I can get him in out at the mine, then he can work on my back hoe in his spare time Ha! Ha!, the weather has only been hot here only a couple of days, so much for global warming, and they still didn’t find that old man out here in the desert.

        • Dan az

          Hey Al
          Good for you I hope it works out!I have to replace the injector pump on mine to costly right now.I just finished fixing the Bob cat so its going to have to do the digging for now.Its been windy here for the last few days and did you notice the humidity?looks like the 4th we may have the monsoons back!If I were the search team I would be looking at the coyote scat to see if they found there guys remains.Stay cool bud.

  • David

    David Wilkerson saw in his visions “blood in our streets,” too…He wrote the “social aid programs will be cut back and curtailed,” affecting the minorities the most, resulting in rioting, bloodshed, looting and “blazing fires,” engulfing entire cities…George Washington also saw our towns and villages burning down to the ground by people from south of the border (your illegal aliens)…It is obvious that the Obama Administration can’t keep spending money like a drunken sailor and will have to severely cut back the welfare programs in some compromise with Congress…Folks, Expect a long hot bloody summer and fall.

  • DaveH

    I think this statement says it all:
    ““Canada is not an island — no country, any more, is an island — our economies are clearly interrelated,” Flaherty said at a breakfast appearance in Toronto following emergency discussions with other G7 countries”.
    Really? Who says? Those pushing for One-World Government? Big Central Government is what got our country where it is now. Government is good for polarizing Citizens against each other. That is all that they do well.
    One size does not fit all and never will. We don’t need even Bigger Central Government (One World Government). We need to shrink the one we have. Vote Libertarian. Send the Trouble Makers and the Controllers packing:
    http://libertarianparty.org/platform

  • http://gjmorris@homesc.com jj

    Blood does not and should not have to spill into our streets of America. What should be done to prevent it, is a small military group of ours go to washinton and with authority, arrest those responable for bringing about the problems we have now. They have broke laws and trampled not only on Gods laws, but our constitution.They want to control our country and our people. Why should people have to die, riot, etc for a small group of men and women that have brought evil upon us? This should not have to happen.

    • http://gjmorris@homesc.com jj

      I miss-spoke, I should have said proper law inforcement agencies should go to Washington. And arrest the people that are breaking the law.

      • Curt

        Law enforcement (or is that Law Breakers) agents will never rise against the government. A small military group will not work either. They have a large military backing them.

      • Don

        jj, just who in the he!! are the proper law agency’s ? why don’t you lead the charge??????

        • http://gjmorris@homesc.com jj

          Don, I have tried to lead the charge all over the net and people are not listening…God IS our only answer. I too have hoped and prayed that good men would do something, and there are a few that have tried and are still trying, but seem to be roadblocked at every turn. We are where we are because we threw God under the train and quit loving him , obeying him and depending on him. God allowed this man to become president to wake us up…to see we need him. We as a nation and a people need to admit to God we have left him and quit listening to him and ask him to forgive us and please help us. I am convinced man is not going to be able to fix this mess we’re in without Gods help. Man is going to try, but then without God, its still the same as saying, He can’t help us. BUT HE CAN! We have to do our part and want to change…change in the way we deal with our fellowman in all aspects,business to just doing the right thing. If we don’t, more is coming and we’ve lost. But it does not have to be this way.

    • Vagabond

      jj. I agree with you. but who do you think is going to do this?

      • http://gjmorris@homesc.com jj

        Well, vagabond, I guess if no one can do this, then its up to God. It just angers me so when there are already people in Washington that could stop a lot of things and won’t because they’re either afraid someone will let our their sins or they won’t be re-elected or they owe someone something, etc. I really wish they would quit thinking about themselves and help this country beore its too late.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          You are reaping what you have sown, it’s written in the winds.

          • Average Joe

            Please don’t lump us all in the same category…As can be seen in this blog…many of us agree with you and want to end the travesty that is…”Government”…of the government, by the government and for the government…..never forget….we got screwed too….and we all want the same thing….individual liberty and the right to live our lives as we see fit…without infringment of others rights.

          • DaveH

            WIA,
            I second Joe’s motion. It isn’t White Man who speaks with forked tongue, it is the White Leaders who speak with forked tongue.

          • Patty

            WIA – I don’t disagree with you, but you will be sucking the same air from that wind.

  • James A. Olson

    Obama is making Carter look like a genius and Grant like a saint.

    • Thinking About

      At least W has not come up to either.

  • BKWsr

    There has allready been blood in our streets all across the country. Why is it up to the Euro Union to bail out Greeces problems. They refuse to solve their problems, The people don’t want to change they want their free hand outs. I say stop bailing out these parisites, When they run out money for their lack of change, Let them suffer for it. The same is said for California and any other state that won’t change their ways. Look at the waste you see around our cities, Super statiums, Oversize Government buildings, I could go on all day. How long is it going to take before they realise socialism is bad buisness. The high taxes we are already paying, city taxes, county taxes, state taxes, fed. taxes. Then you have one of the riches companies in the US that not only does not pay taxes but receives money from the Fed. Gov. the Oil companies. All the excuses they have to not pay, I have a lot of excuses also but the IRS would take all my property then lock me up. It is not to late to make a change in our country. The bomb has not gone of yet. We need to be prepared and ready for any action. Talk is cheap. I hear a lot of talking, but I see very little action around our country. We are very divided and that is the death of us who want change. Unity.

    • http://yahoo.com Gale

      A house divided WILL NOT STAND. I agree with you. Quit all
      the bickering and stand for a statesman. I personnaly think Ron
      Paul could lbe that statesman.

      • BKWsr

        I think Ron would be okay, But as sad as it is to say he won’t win becuase he is white, and male.

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. But the MSM (and their corporate cronys) are going to do their best to marginalize Paul and Johnson. They do not want the Free Markets and Limited Government that Paul and Johnson propose, and they will do anything to stop them.

  • Donald

    Everybody take a deep breath and relax

    • Bleh

      The time to relax is about over if not already. We need to fix our crap hole we have made and right soon at that.

  • http://goggle John Ouzts

    Why has our elected leaders failed to lead us into a better future? We the people voted our President to office based on false promise. Why has our investigating team’s in Washington failed to do their job in keeping our country free from a dictator that is destroying all that the Constitution is based on. Our fore fathers all died in vein if we the people let this insanity continue, we still have the power of the vote but how long do you think that will be in play. I love my country my freedom and I know no other life. DO YOU!

    • Vagabond

      no John. I did not vote for the bastard. a hell of a lot of IDIOTS did vote for him because he was so well qualified in their little STUPID minds,

  • M Wayne

    The problem with Greece that’s not being mentioned, is that’s it’s the California of Europe. It’s the number 1 country from illegal African and Muslim immigrants to go. The illegals are now sucking the life out of Greece and the blame is now being put on citizens of Greece who paid in and expect to receive back. Another attempt to get western society to accept less to create a new world order.

    • wayne937

      We should not provide Greece with a dime of our tax money. It was the people of Greece who squandered their money so why should we bail them out? Each and everyone of us need to take personal responsibility for our own deeds. If Joe does sosmething stupid and gets burned, why should anyone else have to sit on his blister. If this were the case Joe would not learn his lesson.

      • Vagabond

        Wayne we shouldn’t be giving our money to a lot of countries who hate our guts. but those IDIOTS in washington keep sending it to them,

        • Cawmun Cents

          it’s tenatively known as”appeasement”!

  • DaveH

    One World Government is what the Multi-National Corporations want. They need Bigger Government to protect them from their smaller competitors. We, the citizens, need the smaller competitors. We need Smaller Government. Let’s get back to the wisdom of our Founders (Jefferson, Madison, Washington).
    Read this article to see that the Democrats have their Crony Capitalists also. Don’t let them kid you that they’re against Big Corporations. They are just against the ones that aren’t their favorite Cronys:
    http://reason.com/archives/2011/05/10/environmentalists-were-for-fr

    You might ask “What does that prove?”. Well, remember when the Environmentalists were pushing to convert gasoline powered cars to natural gas powered? Now, all of a sudden, they are railing against Natural Gas. Why? Because the alternative energy companies, which the Government has been aiding with our tax dollars and regulatory hobbling of their competitors, can’t compete against Natural Gas (not even close). Crony Capitalism at its finest.

  • http://YAHOO NAM67

    ITS COMING AND THE DUMMYCRATS KNOW IT, THAT’S WHY THEIR TRYING TO DISARM US.THE BAD GUYS KEEP THEIR GUNS. LOCK & LOAD.

    • Alex

      Your nom de guerre suggests “Vietnam 1967″—is that correct?
      If so, does that mean you went to Vietnam in ’67, just in time for the My Lai massacre of grandmothers and their grandchildren?
      Or does it mean you left Vietnam in ’67, so that you can say you got your butt kicked by determined freedom fighters without having to stay to the end?
      Or does it simply represent the IQ of the {N}ormal {A}merican {M}ercenary, 67?

      • http://yahoo.com Gale

        Just remember, people in those days were drafted and stood for
        America. You people that wern’t don’t know how to serve your fellow
        man, only yourself.

      • Bill Thompson

        Alex:
        If you knew ANYTHING about Vietnam you would know that the US did NOT get their ass kicked in Vietnam.The war was won on the battlefield, and lost by spineless politicians,biased left wing media ,and people like yourself (if you even around then). I was over there…were you ?
        The same thing is happening again in Afghanistan,the politics,the media and the people who believe everything they read in the newspaper. Have you ever spoken to a veteran ? If not get yourself educated and do so.You’d be amazed at what you’d learn
        And the more you say, the more it shows just how little you know!

      • Vagabond

        yes alex. I am convinced beyond a doubt. you are an absolute IDIOT,

      • libertytrain

        Alex this is a typical vile post of yours. — it’s ok for you to be vile and cruel?

      • S.C. Murf

        Alex you pitiful little piece of dog crap, to begin with my lai was in the spring of 68, and these American men were tired of getting shot, blown up, seeing their brothers suffer, cry and die. Does anyone understand that these villagers were in fact north viet nam citizens, infiltrated down to the location where they were by the N.V.A. and VC to do nothing more than to resupply and take care of the NVA and VC?. It was not right what we did, but in fact they were the enemy. Any different than the bombing our presidents ordered on Hanoi and all the innocent women and children they killed? You know nothing alex, you need to make that popping sound and get more oxygen to your little bit of gray matter. You will always be a little boy, you don’t have what it takes to be a man, father or husband. Do us a favor and ask mommy whats for dinner and go back to reading comic books

        up the hill
        airborne

        • jibbs

          S.C.
          don’t worry, when TSHTF, the herd will be thinned, due to the fact the POS like Alex and Karolyn will be the first to go. They will have no clue how to care for themselves and not know what to do , or which way to go! It will be up to the rest of us to defend our Country and Constitution.
          I’ll be right next to you going up the hill

          • S.C. Murf

            Thank you brother jibbs, and I will have you back for as long as I can pull the trigger

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Bleh

            I dunno about them being first to go, I was thinking more along the lines of the first few to starve to death 3 weeks in. Ya know, when the Government teat is forcibly removed from their mindless suckers…

          • karolyn

            Thanks for another laught, jibbs! You don’t know me at all! :-)

          • JeffH

            karolyn says, “Thanks for another laught, jibbs! You don’t know me at all!”

            LMAO! This coming from someone whose literally given us all her life’s history/auto-biography…yeah right! You talk so much about yourself sometimes that you use more “I’s and me’s” than Obama does. Egads! :(

          • Jay

            Jeff stated: This coming from someone whose literally given us all her life’s history/auto-biography…yeah right!

            Yes Jeff, and her life’s history/auto-biography keeps changing from day to day, depending on the subject being discussed. A true socialist/marxist chameleon of the same class as her leprous messiah, obama, that she worships like a giddy, bubble-headed and witless schoolgirl!

          • karolyn

            Jeff and Jay – As usual, you have to resort to personal attacks. Just for curosity’s sake, why? Try to find a post I have made that refers to anyone using any kind of derogatory name. You can’t.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – You must like it. You keep coming back for more.

            JeffH is right. By your own words, we’ve got you pegged pretty well. It’s baffling just what it is you hope to gain…or maybe you just like the attention. ANY attention.

          • JeffH

            karolyn, if you’ll notice, my comment was in reponse to your “you don’t know me” statement. If stating truth and fact constitute a personal attack on you, then I guess I am guilty, but I won’t apologise for stating fact and the truth.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – It’s an addiction. I don’t have anybody else around to debate with. However, I was raised to believe that people could have discussion without resorting to verbal abuse; and unfortunately, that is not the case here, more’s the pity.

          • JeffH

            karolyn…poor me…boo hoo!

          • Kate8

            Look, karolyn. You’ve chosen to post on a site where there are sincere people who are genuinely concerned, even horrified, at what is going on in our nation. We come here to share ideas and information with people of like mind.

            While it’s fine for opposing views to post here, don’t expect posters not to get aggravated with the constant mocking and derision toward our very real concerns. Most of us do quite a bit of research because we think it’s vital to our future, and it’s obvious that your side doesn’t take any of it seriously. Fine. But if you want your posts to be respected, then stop disrespecting ours.

            I can enjoy a good debate, but, at least, bring something of substance. By attacking thing about which you know nothing only makes you look foolish.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, very, very well said but most likely to fall on deaf ears.

          • Jana

            karolyn says:
            *****************
            Kate – It’s an addiction. I don’t have anybody else around to debate with. However, I was raised to believe that people could have discussion without resorting to verbal abuse; and unfortunately, that is not the case here, more’s the pity.*********************

            hmm, then why do you have so many snide remarks? You are not a victim here, if you can’t take it then don’t dish it out.

          • eddie47d

            Kate,You sure love it when Jeff mocks someone. .Must be your style too.

          • Patty

            So Karolyn says, “It’s an addiction”…. So, do you want it classified as an illness so that you can get free help for it? In your hippie days, did you have a “V” tatooed on your forehead? (Victim) The fact that you continue to post here and the fact that you are constantly ridiculed for your posts speaks volumes in itself. A little masocistic don’t you think?

      • Curt

        Alex,

        You are lucky that this is the internet and people here do not know who you really are and where you are. I am sure that you just p*ssed off a lot of people with your intellectualy impaired comments. It is people like you, karolyn, and Chicken Boy (Barrack) that is the real problem with this world.

        • S.C. Murf

          Amen Curt

          up the hill
          airborne

        • karolyn

          Thanks for the laugh, Curt! :-)

          • Curt

            You are welcome, you tree hugging hippy.

          • karolyn

            And, thanks for that also! :-)

          • Jay

            Curt, more like a tree hugging, living in la la land, space-cadet!

          • karolyn

            I’d rather be a space cadet (not saying that I am, though) than an angry old man!

          • Kate8

            neener neener neener…

      • DaveH

        Alex,
        Please explain to us, with your superior intellect, how Communism relates to Freedom?

      • Patty

        Alex – your civility is showing.

  • http://yahoo.com Kenny

    It’s coming!!!!..just a matter of time til’ we the REAL American people are finally fed up with this DESTROYER OF AMERICA!!!!…NOBAMA HATES AMERICA and ANYTHING AMERICAN!!!

    • Average Joe

      My questions are….why aren’t we fed up enough already? Why haven’t we started to gather a 10 million man army to march on DC for Independence Day? (after all, the civil rights activists managed major changes with only 1 million)… Can anyone imagine 10 million people marching on Washinton…chanting….” We’re mad as hell and it’s time for you to go!”?….Safety in numbers people…..time to organize!….the usless eaters that are the Federal and State governments…need to be tarred, feathered, assets confiscated…and run out of the country….period!

      • jibbs

        Average Joe,
        I can smell the powder,
        tar and feathers cost too much! Hemp rope is strong, reusable and cheap.

        • Average Joe

          I am betting that a lot of farmers out there would be happy to donate the tar and feathers….just for all of the fun involved in tarring and feathering the worthless scoundrels…and afterwards…a cookout to die for in celebration….lol

      • Bleh

        The massive use of fluoride may be the reason…

        • Average Joe

          Thank God I’m on well water….something they will have trouble screwing with. I am actually looking into a good old fashion hand pump for my well….when the power goes off…I’ll be ready.

          Several years ago, a county truck pulled up in my driveway, gets out and goes over to my well pump…gets out pwperwork, tapes etc. and starts taking measurments and notes. I go out and ask him what he is doing…he says, “the county is going to start putting meters on all of the wells.” I said…I don’t think you’ll be putting one on my well. He says, “it hasn’t been approved yet, but the county will be voting on it in a couple of weeks”. They can vote on it all they want….but they didn’t pay to drill my well, they don’t pay for the maintnance on my well and they won’t touch my well…put a meter on my well today and you will find it in the middle of the street within one hour! Now pack up your sh*t and get off my property…now! Well apparently other residents had the same sentiments as I did…on the night of the vote….the courthouse was packed inside and outside …with angry residents….not one single vote to put the meters on private wells.

          • Jay

            Nice!!!

          • karolyn

            OMG! How were they going to rationalize doing something like that?

          • Average Joe

            karolyn,
            Government and rationalize….. two words that don’t go together…..

            Actually, being in Florida…their reasons were…low water tables equals….we must ration your water usage…and make revenue in the process…. and if you you excessive amounts of water…we can fine you too…pretty straight forward…and typical of government in general…. So in place of that, during certain times of the year…we can only water gardens etc. on certain days of the week…odd numbered houses on these days….even numbered house on the days between…

          • Average Joe

            If you “use” excessive amounts

          • Kate8

            Average Joe – Congress has already declared ownership of all the water in the US, and it falls under the UN. It’s part of Agenda 21, and includes ALL water, even puddles.

            You may have won this battle, but it’s not going away. They plan to charge, fee and tax our water to the point of allowing us only 26 gallons a day (per person) for all of our needs.

            I posted an article awhile back, and I tried to find it, but I had deleted it.

          • Average Joe

            BTW, if a county “Code Enforcement Agent” is in your neighborhood and see you watering on a day that you aren’t supposed to water….you will recieve a citation and notice to appear in court…..revenue….

          • Kate8

            Average – I live in a place where no one can see what I do (except by satellite, of course), but I have friends who live in the city. Their neighbors DO turn each other in for watering “violations”.

          • Jana

            Wow Average Joe,
            It’s a good thing you were there and saw them.
            They have announced in Texas that they are taking stock of everyones water including the ponds. These ponds depend on drainage from the property into the pond.
            It isn’t any of their business, but we have seen on google maps satellite that they know our ponds are there.
            My husband feels the same way you do. He can even tell when there are different tire tracks on our land. He keeps the gate locked and one day he saw a pickup in the middle of the pasture.
            He strapped on his gun and went out to the pasture. There were a bunch of scared men out there when they saw him coming up.
            They had been sent from the Electric Co. and my husband told them to leave, and called the Elec. Co. and reamed them out. When the men came back to clear out the trees around the lines, they did it on the road, not inside the fence.
            The men all hispanic and only one could speak English – a little, were very appologetic.

          • Patty

            I was cited for watering on the right day, wrong time. I guess in my anal community you can never water between noon and 4 or 5. I was watering my front lawn at 12:15 because my roof put the lawn in the shade. It is only in the shade on that side from 12-5. When I called them, after recieving my certified threatening letter, to explain that I was watering in the shade and isn’t the whole idea conservation? The woman blew me off about an ordinance is an ordinance. I asked her how they knew I was watering. She told me someone must have called it in. They are now on my cell speed dial. I call them a lot to report violations on my cul de sac. I have a pretty good idea who it was.

          • Bleh

            Patty says: “I was cited for watering on the right day, wrong time. ”

            Wake up and “smell” the Tyranny indeed…

  • Mark in LA

    Well there wouldn’t have been the need for so much “wealth distribution” if the policies of Ronald Reagan had never been followed. He lead the charge for free trade that sent the jobs over seas. He created a big lie campaign to create guest worker programs. He opened the flood gates on illegal immigrtation. All these things lead to the downward spiral in living conditions for American workers the government made up the difference. The benefits only flowed to the few at the top and on Wall Street. Now we reap the whirlwind of that idiot moron and the fools who believed in him.

    • BKWsr

      All the corperations in N. Carolina left to Mexico from 94-98. I believe that was under Clinton.

      • Mark in LA

        Maybe you were asleep, but the it all started when the Reagan administration negotiated the Canadian-American Free Trade agreement, signed into law under Bush I. Mexico was against joining but due to another pending crisis agreed to join and the negotiations began under Bush I and were signed into law by Clinton.

        If only you partisan atomatons could see father than the exact instant something happened you might start making some sense.

        • BKWsr

          Signed into law by CLINTON, Also are you saying it took 6 yrs. from the end of Reagans term to move out. As to Reagan, I am not a fan of his. He was just the best alternative at that time wanting the job. But you can defend Clinton all you want. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what did he really do that was so good.

          • independant thinker

            I can tell you one thing Clinton did that was good………..He got the hell out of Arkansas and ended up in a state that is much more open to his beliefs.

          • Mark in LA

            I am not defending Clinton just pointing out that all the problems with our economy started with policies put in place by Reagan. Reagan was just a brain dead moron doing what he was conditioned to do by his trainers in the Republican hierarchy. Clinton was just a good-old-boy southern politician willing to do whatever the monied wanted as long as he got his cut. Both did enormous harm to this country as did the Bushes.

        • jibbs

          BTW Mark in LA, Clinton made final adjustments to NAFTA and signed it into law. I think he was dipping his cigar when he signed it and screwed US

          • Mark in LA

            Sorry jibbs but Clinton could not touch NAFTA as it was negotiated. The whole concept of “fast track” legislation was started under these trade agreements so that America first congressmen couldn’t modify the agreements made by hate American CEOs and their cronies in government.

            Clinton did promise stupid Democrat congressmen (especially those more interested in the welfare of Mexico than the US) “side agreements” to get their votes since there were almost no Republicans against it. He never acted on those side agreements. They were things like promising money to pay for Mexican waste clean-up in border regions and crap like that.

          • Jana

            jibbs,
            I remember when Bush was President and Clinton was going down to Mexico to deal with them on NAFTA. Clinton had his dirty little fingers in that mess.

    • Vagabond

      another IDIOT heard from. but what else can you expect from the land of fruits and nuts,

      • Mark in LA

        Please show what isn’t true. Oh that’s right, you can’t.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          Mark in “Los Angeles”, Mexifornication are you really this stupid?

        • DaveH

          I can. See my comment below.

    • jibbs

      It started in the 90′s, do some research before inserting foot.

      • Mark in LA

        When ever I see someone who knows absolutely nothing about the subject telling me to do some research I usually feel sorry for their lack of intelligence.

        http://www.politicususa.com/en/reagan-free-trade

        • DaveH

          That was your proof? What a joke.
          Real Free Trade (not the NAFTA kind run by government which is really Mercantilism) benefits all because there are different specialized skill sets around the world. For the same reason we don’t go to a general practitioner to get brain surgery, we trade with the countries who produce certain products better and cheaper than we do.
          Protection from Free Trade is akin to welfare for companies. They lose their edge when protected from competition, resulting in shoddier and pricier products. We all lose from those kinds of policies.
          No doubt that the Protected classes benefit for a while at least, but the rest of us suffer.

    • DaveH

      First of all, Mark, we haven’t had Free Trade in this country for close to two hundred years. Government-sponsored trade is NOT Free Trade:
      http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=163
      Secondly the illegals (although they should be stopped) are not the cause of our economic problems. They are simply scapegoats. Our problems have been caused by too much Government. They spend 40% of our GDP, while Hong Kong, whose population is 3 times as dense as our densest State, somehow manages to get by with just 18% of their GDP spent on Government.
      The real idiots are the ones who can’t learn by experience. And experience shows that the bigger Government gets, the smaller the economy gets.

      • Mark in LA

        I believe I responded to your “real free trade” nonsense on another thread but I will repeat it here. You are just like the idiot leftist professors crying at the breakup of the Soviet Union that “real communism” was never tried.

        Do you really think Marx and Engels envisioned gulags, secret police, hitler youth type organizations to spy on parents, and no voice for the people in their idealized version of communism?

        Free trade exists only in the smallest of minds. Somebody will always game the system to their advantage. So who is going to guarantee this perfect free trade, God or some super-national uncorruptable organization? How about we let a machine do it – a massive free trade computer program. Oops, somebody has to program it, I wonder if they will put something in there to benefit themselves – nah that could never happen.

        Keep on repeating your fairy tale just like the commies, the environmentalists, the one worlders, and the pure capitalists do.

        • DaveH

          That’s your defense? Real Free Trade can’t exist? It’s a Fairy Tale?
          You must be unstoppable in a debate, since in your own mind you can never lose.
          The Free Trade I talk of is that which is Free from Government busybodies trying to protect their Crony Capitalists with subsidies, tariffs, regulations, and the like. And yes, it could exist if people like yourself would make the effort to be less ignorant.

        • DaveH

          As usual, the Liberal must resort to personal attacks in lieu of the facts. How else can an intellectually bankrupt Liberal win a debate?

        • DaveH

          I am waiting breathlessly for your factual response, Mark.
          Explain to me how Unfree Trade where Politicians pick which company succeeds and which company fails, is better for the citizens?
          Explain to me how it is better for the consumer to have a more narrow field of choices?
          Explain to me how our companies are better off when they must limit their markets to the United States?
          And Mark, let’s have some real facts devoid of your manipulative personal attacks.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, I’d bet the LA in Mark’s name doesn’t represent Louisiana either, if you get my drift…My state is full of them…

    • Dan az

      In the early 80s, Reagan faced an even tougher economy, with higer unemployment, higher inflation and higher interest rates. Reagan cut taxes, slowed the rate of domestic spending and decreased regulation on businesses. Reagan, from Farrakhan’s (The White Man) perspective, was catastrophic.

      Black adult unemployment fell faster than white adult unemployment, black teen unemployment fell faster than white teen unemployment, blcak businesses were created at a rate faster than white businesses, and the revenues of black businesses grew faster than those of white businesses. Wow!

      In one of the most important books on public policy in the last 5o years, Sociologist Charles Murray’s “Losing Ground,” explained how welfare dependency increased the number of black out-of-wedlcok births. The Welfare Reform Act of 1996 resulted in a dramatic decline in the welfare rolls, without a corresponding increase in abortion, Welfare recipients, a larger percentage of whom are minorities, found jobs and became self-sufficient.

      The White Man discovered an inexperienced, left-wing, collectivist, spread-the-wealth, tax-the-rich black senator from Illinois who had not read Murray’s book or, if he had, did not believe it. In fact, then-Illinois State Senator Obama spoke out against the Welfare Reform Act. Determined not to repeat the reagan mistake, The White Man hatched a plan.

      Obama would be the ONE. According to Farrakhan, The White Man engineered his election, then programmed the charismatic Obama to enact policies guaranteed to have the opposite effect of Reagan’s policies. The White Man made Obama sign costly “health care reform” which cause employers to drop coverage, premiums to increase and health care quality to decline.

      The White Man made Obama raise the minimum wage. This increases unemployment for those with the lowest skills, a disproportionate percentage of whom are black. The White Man made Obama sign laws to rein in “Wall Street greed,” but left untouched the real reasons behind the housing meltdown: Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, the FHA and the Community Reinvestment Act, all of which induced the otherwise non-creditworthy–a disproptionate percentage of whom are racial minorities–to take on mortgages they could not afford.

      What rubbish…but what do you expect from Louis Farrakhan?

  • wayne937

    We just need to get this Muslim Communist, and his Socialist Democratic Zombies out of the White House and restore them with some one who will follow the Constitution, and the will of the people.

    • Bob from Calif.

      We need to disinfect all of our government and courts, Federal, State and Local, of the Globalist Statist trash that is infesting them. Until then, they will continue their pursuit of power and masterhood over us.

      • DaveH

        The Supreme Court was originally not meant to be the final determiner of State actions. Being a branch of the Federal Government, they obviously are biased in favor of the Federal Government. They gained their power at the expense of the once Sovereign States, and though they have overridden many State laws in the last 150 years, they have not overridden any Federal laws. Maybe, if we’re lucky, the health care law will be the first.
        The fact, that the Federal Government has consolidated so much power over the States in just 150 years, should be an eye-opener to those who think our further association with the United Nations can lead to any good.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      wayne937 and completely out of our country and feed them to the sharks.

      • Average Joe

        What do you call 2500 politicians floating in the ocean?….Chum

  • robert

    our leaders to grow brains

    THE BOTH SIDE OF THE SAME COIN dem and rep

    with a couple of exeptions like Ron paul and Dennis Kucenich

    IS THE PROBLEM

    END THE FED infowars com henrymakow com pressfortruth ca

    THEY ARE DOING IT ON PURPOSE they are destroying america as

    their plan of NEW WORLD ORDER ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
    one world currency is the END GAME

    when will americans wake up to TEN PERCENT INFLATION

    when will they wake up to the fact that BUILDING SEVEN
    WAS TAKEN DOWN on purpose

    when will they wake up that SIX BILLION IN CASH was sent to
    iraq and its MISSING

    when will you wake up to the fact that billionaires
    in the usa MAKE FIFTY DOLLARS PER SECOND

    when?

    • Bob Marshall

      Robert, it was eighteen billion.

  • Average Joe

    The world economy explained in 3 minutes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyePCRkq620&feature=youtu.be

    Any questions?

  • texastwin827

    I had an interesting conversation with a pilot in the military, this past weekend. Surprisingly, he (and other military men) believe this is going to happen, as well….that said, he also said many in the military will honor their oath to the Constitution, NOT our government lackies.

    The powers-to-be have, unwittingly, provided this country with many seasoned, combat vets who, apparently do not like what is going on in their country any more than the civilians do.

    • Vagabond

      Texastwin I too will honor my oath. and no where in the oath does it say anything about upholding anyone it is all about upholding the constitution and DEFENDING AMERICA FROM ALL ENEMIES FROM WITHOUT AND WITHIN. I am sure we all know who the enemy within is,

    • Gary

      I also served over twenty years in uniform. In the oath I took I promised to protect the country and the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. Another promise in that oath is to obey the orders of the President and all those appointed over me. How do you promise to defend this country from foreign and domestic enemies and then promise to obey the orders of the biggest domestic enemy this country has? Just a thought.

      One thing that must be done is gun confiscation and that would take a large force to accomplish that. That force would have to come from a source other than our military and the police.

      I still don’t believe that our military would take up arms against fellow Americans. A large amount of our troops are all assigned overseas. Our real strength is still in our National Guard and Reserve components. Many of them are also very active members of their communities and I don’t think they would take up arms against their friends, family or neighbors. I also think that relocating them to other states to do that dirty work would not work either. I strongly believe that they would go as far as to join their fellow Americans against the gun confiscators. With all the guns in this country, registered or unregistered it would be very difficult to locate them. I am sure the President and his followers are well aware of this and will request help from the United Nations. The UN would gladly send troops from China, Iran and North Korea to name a few and, for the first time since the War of 1812, we would again be fighting foreign troops on our soil. Our, so called, NATO Allies will be unwilling or powerless to help us. It would be a bloodbath. The people who will be kicking down our doors looking for guns will not be American troops.

      • MarkRB

        And the landscape will be littered with blue helmets with holes in them…..

        • Kate8

          Gary – The UN troops are already here, awaiting O’s command.

          He knew our own military wouldn’t, as a whole, turn on our citizenry. He’s got his bases covered.

          Considering that the UN is mostly Islamic these days, the UN troops are just salivating to be unleashed on America.

          • karolyn

            It sounds more to me like your salivating to see all your conspiracy crap come to fruition. It’s sick to be spreading conjecture (or actually fantasy) like you are.

          • Jay

            Karolyn stated: It sounds more to me like your salivating to see all your conspiracy crap come to fruition. It’s sick to be spreading conjecture (or actually fantasy) like you are.

            What it really sounds like to you is the truth you stubbornly refuse to believe. As for salivating, you produce the most, including, frothing at the mouth, ranting and raving like a rabid lunatic when your hideous messiah, obama, is criticized, as he should be! He’s a monster and the enemy of the state, including off-course, the swine and whores he represents! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

          • karolyn

            I wish you people would stop referring to Obama as my “messiah.” I certainly do not feel that way. However, I do not look upon him as the devil incarnate either.

          • S.C. Murf

            Kate8, all I can say is bring on the cannon fodder

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Kate8

            karolyn – Now there’s something entirely predictable. Such a response coming from you.

            We all know that your MO is to ignore any information you don’t like.

            If you have no knowledge, then you have no hope of stopping it.
            Haven’t you ever heard that knowledge is power?

            You just keep tiptoeing through those tulips, and let the grownups talk.

          • Jana

            karolyn,
            Actually you make yourself sound like a dingy woman, void of common sense.

          • Patty

            Actually, Karolyn reminds me of an Ex sister-in-law that would break out into song at really wierd and inappropriate times with made up verses. Did too much acid in her early years.

      • Bleh

        When they confiscate the firearms they will do it the same way they did it in New Orleans.

        • DaveH

          Yep. With all the huffing and puffing, one would think we could just get together and vote the rascals out of office. Apparently one would think wrong.
          The apathetic Americans have turned their backs on Big Government growth for well over 150 years now. I really doubt that they will be willing to sacrifice their lives to stop it now.

    • jibbs

      texastwin827, you are correct. My brother lives outside FT.Wood, and I go on base with him quit often, the talk is the same, Military will side with the citizens.

      • Jana

        jibbs,
        I agree, because our military are are our children and husbands and fathers, as well as our brothers and sisters. They know they don’t have to follow any unlawful orders.
        …But, like Kate8 said, the U N will. One thing I know for sure, they will have a serious fight on their hands, and a lot of the UN won’t be around to see any type of victory, in fact I don’t think they will be victorious at all. They just haven’t seen us mad yet.

  • Raggs

    We are already seeing unrest here, Chicago is an example of how the cockroahes are coming out of the wood work to steal and intimidate.

  • hoffhack

    “SIX DAYS AWAY FROM ANARCHY!!!” You don’t believe it? Then you are among the “Millions” of people suffering from “Normalcy Bias” (the belief that it could never happen here)…..with the US having the blessing of having the worlds “Reserve Currency” we are in a unique position in the world. The problem now is, we have printed so much “paper” (23 mountains of dollars piled as high as mount Everest, and growing) that the countries that are holding this debt are beginning to wake up and say “WOOOAH!!!” This stuf ain’t worth the paper it is written on!! (and they’d be right!!) It is no accident that Gold is over $1,500 per ounce, and Silver is still holding over $30. The real numbers suggest that Gold should be nearer $5,000 per ounce, and silver $200. Once the world stops taking the dollar for oil, and all those Chinese TVs and stero’s in Walmart, and it will take a shopping cart full of “Dollars” and more just to buy food, just watch how fast the store shelves empty. Within 6 days, in every City, there will be no food, no gas and power and water will be spotty at best. Police??? Don’t make me laugh!!! Once they realize that the money they are being paid with, will not buy anything, they will go home and protect their own families. And the Military will be in the same boat before long too! So where are those City dwellers, who are used to having things handed to them on a plate (State workers, City workers and of course Federal workers) going to get their daily bread from??? Well, since most of the schnooks are un-armed, the gangs will take everything worth taking, and those that survive, will have to flee into the burbs! And since they haven’t the first clue how to survive, they will come a knocking on your door. You, who are one of the ones who have prepared (and the gangs won’t be far behind) SOOOO, you had better have a plan in place with a bunch of your friends and Neighbors as to how you are going to survive, and protect yourself from sub human scum, who would shoot you for a bottle of Spring water!! Think I am a fear mongering fruit cake?? Well, I’ll try and keep that in mind when you show up looking for a hand out. I will probably give it to you once, but after that, you either contribute or scoot! And make no mistake about it! Those who have not prepared, will go to any lengths to feed their kids including stealing from, or even killing you, so be careful about who knows what you have. It is estimated that if the worst comes, it could take 6 months to a year before order can be restored, and during that time, bartering for esentials (food, fuel, water, batteries, etc.) will be the norm, and the only form of money that will be accepted is Silver, and of course Gold!! So it would be wise to have some of each. Crazy??? Mabybe, but if just a handful of you out there listen and prepare, that will be 5 less out there looking to take ours away!!! God Save America!!!

    • meteorlady

      Where is John Gault when you need him?

      • Average Joe

        Who is John Galt?….Just kidding of course……

        Hopefully, once this starts….the useless eaters will be dead and buried within a month or so….from starvation and stupidity….
        Once that happens the rest of us who have been preparing over the last couple of years can attend to the task of putting things back to what they should be…and eliminating the last of the pond scum that have brought us to the brink of destruction…Useless eaters be damned!
        (TINSTAAFL) There’s no such thing as a free lunch!

    • MarkRB

      Very well said….well, here’s at least one guy you won’t need to worry about trying to steal your stuff.

  • meteorlady

    We are already seeing unrest in Wisconsin. The lamestream media is just not reporting it. There is so much corruption in this country anymore. People truly do believe it’s their right to take the money that I work for and use it for their benefit. I can’t understand the degradation that it takes to believe this way. I continue to store food, ammo, water and seeds. I have started my garden patch for next year and plan on getting a few solar items. I have underground propane storage and I just might get an underground water storage tank.

    If nothing happens, then I will be ahead of the game since there will have to be some runaway inflation as a result of the Federal Reserves policies. AND I will be more self-sufficient and pay a lot less for fruits and veggies than they are asking in the stores.

  • jopa

    Real blood spilled in the streets of Vancouver Canada.I did see the clips but I thought it was about a loss in hockey.How it ended up in this article is a mystery.Perhaps we should ban hockey or move to Africa they don’t have a whole lot of ice there.Perhaps the author was relying on the ignorance of the readers, and tried to imply the Vancouver riots were caused by financial instability in Canada.

    • Average Joe

      While I understand what you are saying and agree with your logic. If the people will riot in the streets over something as silly as a hockey game (simple entertainment)…just imagine what they will do when the economy ends up in the dumpster..and the free ride comes to an abrupt halt…those riots over the hockey game will seem like a brisk walk in the park on a summers eve in comparison…the fall is comming and to shug it off would be a fools folly…..As the Boy Scout motto says: BE PREPARED!…For anything.

    • independant thinker

      ” If the people will riot in the streets over something as silly as a hockey game (simple entertainment)…just imagine what they will do when the economy ends up in the dumpster..and the free ride comes to an abrupt halt…”

      jopa………The above is exactly what Mr Meyers had in mind when he included the Vancover riots in his article.

      • Average Joe

        Maybe I misquoted when I said I “agreed” with his logic….I should have said understood his logic. Having been raised in a liberal family growing up…I actually understand how the liberal mind works…ignore the obvious….and go hunt for something out in left field….. But what you said was precisely the message I was trying to convey to Jopa…
        Thank God, I grew up and stopped drinking the Koolaide….now I am the “white sheep” of the family (of course that’s not what they call me….lol).

    • jibbs

      jopa says:
      June 29, 2011 at 9:21 am
      Real blood spilled in the streets of Vancouver Canada.I did see the clips but I thought it was about a loss in hockey.How it ended up in this article is a mystery.Perhaps we should ban hockey or move to Africa they don’t have a whole lot of ice there.Perhaps the author was relying on the ignorance of the readers, and tried to imply the Vancouver riots were caused by financial instability in Canada.

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      Once again, you missed the point, re-read what is being said, expand your mind, as to what John is saying. If you can have unrest over sports, when the gov. runs out of money and people don’t get their freebies and food stamps, civil unrest will explode like a powder keg!
      Hungry can and will be very mean and go to extremes to eat.

  • Harry S.

    John Meyers is right on. Too much politically correct idiocy has ruled in America. It’s now past time to face the truth or take the consequences.

    So stiffen your spines, tighten your belts, find your courage and let’s get to work at stopping those Socialists before they destroy our coumtry, our freedom, and us.

  • jibbs

    excerpts from John Myers Article:

    On June 15, riots broke out in Athens, the birthplace of democracy. On Tuesday, violence erupted again. The outbursts were ignited by further austerity measures ordered by the Greek government.

    As in Athens, the rioters in Vancouver were mostly gangs of youths bent on creating chaos. This begs two questions:

    1.What would happen in a city like Vancouver if the fledgling economic recovery collapses and the citizens face hardship?
    2.What are the chances this kind of violence will erupt in the United States?
    *********************************************************************** John, the United States is not a Democracy, we are a Republic! Why do so many people compare us to, or say that we are Democracy, when we are not?

    • jdfay

      Jibbs, Finally someone has gotten it correct!!! NO we are not a Democracy, we are a REPUBLIC !!! and we are not citizens, we are the PEOPLE the only sovereignty in this country… The government is supposed to work for us, not the other way around…

    • Gary

      “John, the United States is not a Democracy, we are a Republic! Why do so many people compare us to, or say that we are Democracy, when we are not?”

      People have been calling us a Democracy for as long as I can remember and long before that. It’s called brain washing.

  • Joe America

    People need to realize where this downturn in the economy originally came from. You need look no farther than the Federal Reserve and Wall Street. Our polititians have allowed the biggest theft in human history to take place, which was, and continues to be, the transfer of wealth from our Treasury; a theft from the American people. Bush blackmailed Congress into Tarp I, with the threat of martial law, in October of 2008. Then, Obama added insult to injury with Tarp II. Then, you’ve had QE1 and QE2, both dismal failures, which have caused the dollar to drop like a stone. Congress and the Administration have lost control over our own Treasury. When Questioned by Congress as to where all our money has gone, Bernake say he didn’t know, and if he did, he didn’t have to tell anyone, due to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. The Fed has our gold and they hold us hostage with our own money. No, my friends, this is not happening by accident. It’s the planned financial destruction of this nation. We could never be taken down with force, so, we’re being taken down financially, with greater success and efficiency than any standing army could accomplish. Our polititians rely on Wall Street and the Fed to provide funds and support required to become elected or be re-elected. It’s a simple fact that their golden rule is “he who has the gold, rules.” People can riot, but they’ll just end up in FEMA camps. It would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces. The best thing Americans can do is stop using credit. They need to get off the credit teet, period. This is the only way they will save themselves, and punish the banks and Wall Street. If the economy goes down, they need to pull together and remain calm. The greatest, most inspirational episode I’ve seen in my lifetime was the way that the Japanese people maintained their dignity during their latest disasters. Hundreds of thousands of Japanese people stood quietly in line, waiting for help. No butting in line or acting out or emoting. No one felt, “entitled.” They worked diligently, without waiting on someone else to save them, everyone helping his neighbor. This is a far cry from the emoting, deadlock and stupidity seen in New Orleans during Katrina. We can learn allot from the Japanese. People will be thinking about rioting if there is an economic collaps in the USA. I have no doubt that there will be communist instigators, as well as others, who will stand to benefit from such riots. However, Americans need to remain calm and resolved. They need to maintain their dignity, remembering that they are Americans, representing the only nation in the world that is truly free. Rioting is what the one world government folks want out of you. They want this nation to come down, simply because our Constition and Bill of Rights are the only things standing between them, and world domination. Americans need to take a lesson from the Amish and German Baptists, who have been self sufficient since they hit our shores. We need to get back to the basics, recreating ourselves, without Wall Street and the banks. Once we can do that we will truly be free.

  • tsunami

    Here is my fear.

    I love the States and most of its people (some more than others)however there is one trait that bothers a lot of us and that is that many if not most Americans have this ingrained belief that the universe revolves around the US. Which it did for the last 100 years or so but now the situation is entirely different you are not masters of your own house any more and the world has bought your debt and bonds to keep you afloat.

    Yes your politicians can certainly help and your people had better get a better understanding of your situation which is akin to quick sand and sucking you down with every passing day. Depressing for all of us but at least you have a vote to do something about your situation I have to sit back and watch.

    One point of hope.
    Winston Churchill said many years ago “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other alternatives”, sad but true. Let’s hope you get the chance before it is too late to call the shots on your future.

    God Bless America

  • Bob Marshall

    If our government demands all guns turned in by its citizen they may some violence. Then, that would be the perfect excuse to bring in UN troops to quell the situtation.That would be the time we would find out if FEMA camps were real or just part of the thinking of conspirist.remember, everything happens for a reason. I believe there was so much more to 9/11 than what we were told. Then again, i am one of those conspiricy theroist.

    • Average Joe

      “Then, that would be the perfect excuse to bring in UN troops to quell the situtation.”

      I have been saying the same thing for years now and of course I have been called everything except human when I have done so. I have been called a nutjob ect……”You must be crazy to think that they would bring UN Troops into this country.”…..What most people don’t know or understand is those troops have been on our soil for years now….training with our military and police forces……how do you think our police force became so militaristic over the years?….they have been trained by UN Troops and while many will not shoot Americans on American soil….many more of these power hungry thugs will do just that….New Orleans after Katrina was a perfect example…arresting and confiscating weapons from law abiding Americans who were only trying to protect their property. Be ready folks….not only will we be fighting against UN forces that will have no quams shooting American….but unfortunately….we may also need to take up arms against our own……

    • jimmy the greek

      Your not crazy .

  • Bill Lee

    Take notice, it’s people who are raised on entitlements that destroy what they and others have like petulant children. Obama and the Dems want to continue this permissive trend so the country goes down the tubes with the rest of the world. Spare the rod and spoil the country. Cut entitlements, cut spending and we’ll be getting somewhere.

  • i41

    Do all the marxist/communist democrats who voted for the niggardly crossbred muslim, still enjoy the closer we came to being under the UN mandate on banning all private land ownership. You know the executive order the bastard in the WH signed durning Weinergate?

  • http://yahoo.com sharon

    Obama still wants all public ownership of land gone, the commie piece of camel dung wants to take everything we have and send it to his muslim brotherhood. He is going to open our borders and let those murdering dogs in america and they are going to start killing, Obama will start civil war soon enough any way the dirty dog can.

    • 45caliber

      sharon:

      He does NOT want public ownership of property gone. He just wants to make sure that he and his friends own all of it as they did in Communist Russia.

  • TML

    Uprisings in Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Lybia, Greece, Canada (G20)… the germ of revolution has been lite and is spreading just as it has in any other period in history. America has wars going on (excuse me… “military actions”) in Lybia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and Iraq. NATO and it’s allies commit war crimes, and engage in terrorism. I would think that not only riots are possible, but all out revolution in the states is our government continues to engage in imperial global policing of the world as our economy sinks to pay for it… all the while the Federal Reserve, a private bank, prints money out of thin air… causing the dollar to lose value (a major contributing economic factor of all this). Riots? More like revolution could happen here, and it isn’t just going to from young punks that want to cause trouble. The American people are waking up… slowly. I only hope enough of them do, soon enough, and we may even be able to reverse this in our country, before things get out of hand. I think nominating Ron Paul would be a great start… he has the most experience (Economist and 12 year Congressman), he has difinitive solutions (Bring the troops home and spend that money here rather than abroad, and end the Federal Reserve), and a solid consistent voting record (30 years and has the most consistent voting record I’ve ever seem… we can be sure he will do what he says, and says what he means).

    • http://yahoo.com sharon

      I think a long stint in prison for that idiot that runs the federal resever would do just great the lier and commie idiot. We need to get rid of the reserve peroid and go back to gold. We need to go back to the basics of what started America God and country is what we should concentrate on. We have fools in this country that want it to go down, they want it to be a communist country they are all over the place, idiots I hope they get what they deserve tried for treason like Obama and is band of commies.

      • jibbs

        haron says:
        June 29, 2011 at 10:14 am
        I think a long stint in prison for that idiot that runs the federal resever would do just great the lier and commie idiot. We need to get rid of the reserve peroid and go back to gold. We need to go back to the basics of what started America God and country is what we should concentrate on. We have fools in this country that want it to go down, they want it to be a communist country they are all over the place, idiots I hope they get what they deserve tried for treason like Obama and is band of commies.

        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        A long stint in prison cost alot of money, a short piece of hemp rope in a tall tree is cheap and reusable!

        • Average Joe

          Heck, being Hemp rope…we could probaly hang three at a time from the same noose….it wouldn’t break from the wieght and …we could get the job done much faster…..and… we could even sing “Swing low, Sweet chariot” as the rope pulls taught…..just sayin’…..lol

          • jimmy the greek

            YES !

  • http://yahoo.com sharon

    I watched that criminal bitch Michelle Obama tell people the other day Obama and his band of dogs are just begining to lay the commie foundation of America and they need four more years to take it down and tranform it to a world commie global foundation like that old dirty Nazis george Soros wants him to do so he can rape and pillage Americans. Yet our politicans sit and do nothing, say nothing, those cowards are all going to be the downfall of America.

  • jimmy the greek

    Thank the zionists for all that is about to happen .

    • http://yahoo.com sharon

      They have nothing to do with Obama, your foolish

      • jimmy the greek

        They own obongo just as they owned bush !

        • 45caliber

          You would have made a very good Nazi. They were convinced the Jews were the sole problem with the world too.

          • jimmy the greek

            They were just as they are here !

  • http://yahoo.com sharon

    If our lazy no account politicans won’t stand and stop Obama and his band of commies, then Americans must, we need the military behind us, to fight these dirty muslims and commies or we are lost. If the military stands behind Obama we will be seeing a dirty commies global goverment and many people murdererd.

    • 45caliber

      sharon:

      I don’t believe you need to worry about that. The libs believe that since Oblama is CIC, the military MUST obey any order he gives but that isn’t so. If they give the order for them to shoot at the civilians, I don’t believe they will obey at all.

      • Patty

        How long ago was Kent State?

        • 45caliber

          Patty:

          See my comments on Kent State below.

  • Charles

    Bill Lee,
    Very good post. I would like to add something to that, IMIGRATION
    CLOSE THE DAMN BORDERS ONCE and FOR ALL and SEND BACK THE ILLIGALS
    IN THIS COUNTRY TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM> You wonder why we rate 16th in education in the world,well this is part of it. You know the
    other,>Inner Cities> Take these two things out of the equation and I`m
    sure we would be no 1. This cancer effects the whole system.

    • http://yahoo.com sharon

      Obama is not going to close the borders, he wants them here to make them legal to help him take down America. It’s not just mexicans coming though that border it’s muslims by the dozens everyday, killers and thugs ready to take orders from Obama and his commie bunch.

    • jimmy the greek

      We need to ship all of them out even the ones the were born here , If they are not of good European stock they must go ,However the blacks that are descended of the slaves should be given a large chunk of the country as a home land and be left in pace because they were forced to come here .

      • 45caliber

        Does that include all the Europeans too? After all, they came here originally too.

        I have no problem with all the LEGAL people here (and I’m quarter American Indian). It is the illegal ones that are the real problem. We can always stop the legal immigration (and most of it we should. We don’t need 500,000 uneducated Vietnamese a year as we are accepting now legally.)

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      Charles, I live in S.E. Arizona, one mile from the U.S. / Mexico border. Tell me, where do you live and how do you propose to Close/Shut down the Border? Hells Bells get you damn Arse down here and show me, other wise all you who bitch about the border, shut the F%$^ up and start cleaning up your towns, cities and states of ILLEGALS, and you just might make a dent, and restore sanity. Boycott all businesses in your areas that employ ILLEGALs of all races and nationalities, just to name a few for you, Canadians, Europeans, Asians, Australians, Melanesians, Mycenaeans, Arabs or what have you, on a final note it are’snt ( get tired of writing Ain’t) just Mexicans it’s OTMs too.

      • jimmy the greek

        Land Mines would be a good start .

    • 45caliber

      Charles:

      The MAIN reason we are ranked 16th in the world in education is that we no longer teach the basics such as reading, writing, arithmetic, sciences, and history. We teach environmentalism, homosexuality, home ec (as we used to call it), and many basket-weaving classes. In other words, the teachers are too buy teaching all the non-essentials to have time to teach all the basics as well as other countries do.

  • http://personalliberty.com Alice

    For decades many people have believed that the Government has the right to take over income from workers and give it to non-workers or those earning less than others. If the Government discontinues robbing citizens, the people who have been profitting from this robbery will feel they have the right to take the wages from earners since the Government will no longer do it. Yes, we can see these bloody/destructive demonstrations in this country. Why, people riot and burn when they feel someone has been arrested in error.

  • http://LurveyBooks John B. Lurvey

    I do believe that we are approaching pay back time. The military will come down on the side of the people, contrary to what the Commander in Chief may believe. When the police see the direction that the people are taking, they will join in or have a seat on the sidelines. This corrupt, low life government will be in the ruins that it created. Many of our so called representatives will be arrested and tried for treasonable felonies. I look forward to the end, and a new beginning.

    • jimmy the greek

      Your dreaming ! The police and military well do what there zionist masters tell them to do . Look what happened in New Orleans, they took the guns from the people trying to defend there self’s and there homes from the thugs .

      • BigBadJohn

        Agree warriors have always fought for their commanders and against their own neighbors.

        • TML

          The “warriors” have historically been a mojor contributing factor of WINNING revolutions once they turn against their own government. It happens all the time in History. Some don’t… some do.

        • 45caliber

          BBJ:

          Wrong. Warriors, as you call them, do not ‘always’ obey their commanders when the commanders give them bad orders. They do in Europe and the American politicians would LOVE for them to do it here – but they don’t.

          Take Kent State shootings. Supposedly the National Guard fired upon unarmed ( but not peaceful) demonstators. However, upon checking, the majority of them fired at a wall three stories above the ground. Further, the ones killed were all shot by a .22 rifle (which the NG didn’t have) and one of the dead wasn’t even in view of the NG since there was a building in the way. (I chose this example since it is the only one I could think of where the military in the US fired upon citizens.)

          • DaveH

            The Kent State shootings:
            http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2010/05/they-just-started-shooting-us-down-kent.html

            It’s ironic that an agency known for the number of draft dodgers in their ranks would fire on the war protesters.

          • 45caliber

            DaveH:

            Actually, from what I was told in the follow up report, the NG didn’t shoot anyone. They shot over their heads to scare them. And the pictures backed it up. I didn’t see any picture with even ONE NG pointing his gun in any direction but up.

      • TML

        Some of them… even entire bregades, refused to go door to door picking up those guns. You just don’t hear about THAT part. Ron Paul has the biggest portion of contributers from the Military. They are out there, you just won’t see them till the sh*t hits the fan.

      • jibbs

        jimmy the greek says:
        June 29, 2011 at 10:29 am
        Your dreaming ! The police and military well do what there zionist masters tell them to do . Look what happened in New Orleans, they took the guns from the people trying to defend there self’s and there homes from the thugs
        +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        Liar, you are a foolish idiot.

        • TML

          If you’re saying that he’s lying about them confiscating guns after Katrina in New Orleans, then YOU are wrong. They did indeed… search it on YouTube and you’ll find video of it. There were, however, as I pointed out… many military soldiers who refused to do it.

        • Curt

          My nephew was in the national guard sent in after Katrina. The government took their (the national guardmen’s) guns as well.

    • karolyn

      Well, you sure don’t see that in Greece. They are hurling teargas at peaceful demonstrators.

      • 45caliber

        I saw a picture of some of your “peaceful” demonstrators this morning. One was about 6’6″ tall and wore a large gas mask that totally hid his face. He carried a six foot long pole and has streaks of blood on him from people he had injured.

        The reason they use tear gas is because it won’t harm people. It does tend to make them go somewhere else – preferably home. The violent protestors hide among the peaceful ones on purpose. They expect the peaceful ones to get in the way of any cops trying to chase them.

        Instead of tear gas, would you prefer the police simply called in the military to surround these “peaceful” people and arrest all of them? Or perhaps charge in with battons? What other solution can you come up with? Or do you believe that since the majority are peaceful the violent ones should be ignored?

        • karolyn

          The report I heard at lunchtime said that the protesters were peaceful and there were no rock-hurlers among them.

          Speaking of peaceful protesters, here’s how the Israelis handle peaceful Palestinians having fun:
          http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/06/28-0

          • Jay

            The Palestinians should consider themselves fortunate that the Israeli’s show such reasonable restraint, unlike other Arab countries, such as Libya, Syria, Afghanistan and so on, where the protesters are beaten and shot to death by their own people! Israelis’ are humanitarians compared to their Arab counterparts! Sholom…

          • karolyn

            Oh, come on Jay. You certainly can’t agree with the Israelis gassing women and children for kite flying and having fun! Did you see t hat they actually had to chase them all the way out of town? It doesn’t matter what any other countries do. This just goes to show how inhumane the Israelis really are. It also goes to show how you will stick up for them no matter what they do.

          • 45caliber

            karolyn:

            You and the MSM needs to check the definition of “peaceful”. To me that means that the protesters SHOULD be merely shouting slogans and waving signs. It does NOT mean getting in people’s way, shoving people down, kicking them, etc. To the MSM ANY protest is peaceful as long as they support the reason for the protest and no one is actually killed.

          • karolyn

            45 – Did you watch the video I posted?

          • Jay

            Karolyn stated: Did you watch the video I posted?

            MSM reporters are very careful as to what and how they video tape a so-called peaceful demonstration. Additionally, the editing process ensures that their biased interpretation of such is reflected in the final product, you simpleton!

          • 45caliber

            No, I didn’t . It doesn’t have anything to do with our discussion here.

          • Jay

            Karolyn stated: Oh, come on Jay. You certainly can’t agree with the Israelis gassing women and children for kite flying and having fun! Did you see t hat they actually had to chase them all the way out of town? It doesn’t matter what any other countries do. This just goes to show how inhumane the Israelis really are. It also goes to show how you will stick up for them no matter what they do.

            Karolyn, do you live in Israel? Do you wake up everyday to rockets being fired into Israel, by palestinians and other Arab agitators? Do you wake up everyday wondering, “Will this be the day I will be blown to bits when I go to the market, or any other public place in Israel? Do you wake up every day listening to Arab countries calling for your extinction? Then do us all a favour and keep your trap shut before you go accusing the Israeli’s of having the audacity to defend their lives and existence! A peaceful demonstration? Sure, whatever you say, you self-rightious blind bigot!

          • Kate8

            karolyn – You are the one who likes to point out how anyone can make a video about anything.

            The truth is, the Israelis allow (peaceful) Muslims to live among them. Also, surrounding Islamic peoples, including Palestinians, routinely come to Israeli hospitals for treatment, because they are treated efficiently and compassionately (often to return to those who saved their lives with a bomb strapped on).

            The Israelis just want the right to exist. There are enormous Islamic lands surrounding Israel where these people could go if they wanted to. The truth is that they are kept there for one reason, and that is to fan the flames of hatred toward Israel, a tiny country that cannot afford to give up any more land and survive.

            You should skip the MSM and do some reading from ordinary people who have lived there.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – The video was not MSM. It showed a bunch of kids and women dressings up in clown paint, laughing and flying kites. The Israeli military came along and started lobbing tear gas or smoke bombs at them. Cut and dried. There was no fighting or even yelling. One woman tried reasoning with the soldiers. That was it.

          • Curt

            karolyn,

            And what happened before that? Where are the cameras showing what led to the gassing? Or are you seriously trying to tell us that the Isralies are so evil, they need no excuse, that they just indiscriminately kill just to kill?

      • Jay

        Karolyn stated: Well, you sure don’t see that in Greece. They are hurling teargas at peaceful demonstrators.

        Peaceful demonstrators? Ya right, I suppose you would claim that a rapist was only peacefully expressing his desire, and a bank robber was only peacefully trying to improve his economic position, and Obama is peacefully trying to fix our nation by destroying it! Numbskull!

    • Patty

      However, the military would have to be HERE, instead of spread to every rat hole on this earth. By design…..

  • http://HTTP//myspce.com/freddawes1776/ Fred Dawes

    Great post. but the facts are this nation is now in the hands of the big bankers who want us all to live under the rule of no laws, the future of the USA Will be to become just like Mexico, and within 5 years you will see a great deal of death and the total dismantling of all freedoms and our leaders will help, the news boys will call all Americans just racists and bellyachers and any who stand up and say NO To this outrage will be put down by the cops or just killed in front of us, as a political lesson in control.

    • jimmy the greek

      You got that right ! and the bankers are the zionist .

      • 45caliber

        jimmy:

        ALL the bankers I know are NOT zionists. Not a one are. Let’s accept that there are a lot of people out there who don’t have our needs at heart and accept that most of them are not Jews. Just call them “bankers” and get over it.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          45caliber, the greek is to dumb to say Fed. Reserve and IMF, he and karolyn just want to be bailed out!

          • jimmy the greek

            No what needs doing is what was started in Germany in 1933 .

          • 45caliber

            jimmy:

            I KNEW you were a Nazi at heart!

  • Dustin

    Well it’s way overdue and sadly the only thing that will fix this country. Tear it down and re build. We are way over taxed and over regulated. What this country is today is a far cry from what our fore fathers envisioned. God Bless USA. For you atheists and agnostics or whatever, well God Bless you too.

  • MR.Washington

    Off topic: Cancer Surges In Body Scanner Operators; TSA Launches Cover-Up

    FOIA documents reveal how “large number of workers have been falling victim to cancer, strokes and heart disease”
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet. com
    Tuesday, June 28, 2011

    Fearful of provoking further public resistance to naked airport body scanners, the TSA has been caught covering up a surge in cases of TSA workers developing cancer as a result of their close proximity to radiation-firing devices, perhaps the most shocking revelation to emerge from the latest FOIA documents obtained by the Electronic Privacy Information Center.

    After Union representatives in Boston discovered a “cancer cluster” amongst TSA workers linked with radiation from the body scanners, the TSA sought to downplay the matter and refused to issue employees with dosimeters to measure levels of exposure.

    The documents indicate how, “A large number of workers have been falling victim to cancer, strokes and heart disease.”

    “The Department, rather than acting on it, or explaining its position seems to have just dismissed. I don’t think that’s the way most other agencies would have acted in a similar situation if they were confronted with that question,”

    EPIC’s Marc Rotenberg said.
    In an email sent to Heather Callahan (PDF), deputy federal security director at Boston Logan International Airport, union representatives express their concern about “TSA Boston’s growing number of TSOs working here that have thus far been diagnosed with cancer.”

    Of course, if TSA workers who are merely standing near the scanners are already developing cancer, frequent flyers are also putting themselves in harm’s way by standing directly inside the radiation-firing machines.

    As we reported yesterday, newly released internal government documents, obtained via the Freedom Of Information Act by the Electronic Privacy Information Center, reveal that the TSA, and specifically the head of the Department of Homeland Security, “publicly mischaracterized” the findings of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, in stating that NIST had positively confirmed the safety of full body scanners in tests.

    In erroneously citing both NIST and the Johns Hopkins school of medicine to claim that the body scanners are safe, the TSA has also deliberately misled the public on the dangers posed by the devices.

    Documents obtained by EPIC show that, far from affirming their safety, NIST warned that airport screeners should avoid standing next to full body scanners in order to keep exposure to harmful radiation “as low as reasonably achievable.”
    Further documents illustrate how a Johns Hopkins study actually revealed that radiation zones around body scanners could exceed the “General Public Dose Limit,” contradicting repeated claims by the TSA that Johns Hopkins had validated the safety of the devices.

    At the time we pointed out that Dr Michael Love, who runs an X-ray lab at the department of biophysics and biophysical chemistry at the Johns Hopkins school of medicine had publicly stated two days previously that “statistically someone is going to get skin cancer from these X-rays”.

    • 45caliber

      If you work for a private company, OSHA is all over you to make sure your workers are safe. But if you work for the government, the thought is “I can’t get anything done is I worry about that!”

    • BKWsr

      I was taught in the military as a soldier in a NBC recond team is that there is no such thing as safe radiation. Even the sun is putting out to much for us. Even xrays are dangerous. Now these guys are trying to say its safe. If all ya’ll knew what I was taught in the military about this would make you protest and run from that machine.

    • Patty

      Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch. You sow what you reap. I won’t get on another plane until the TSA is gone.

  • EdinNola

    What we are seeing in Greece is the inevitable end game of a Communist government. To start with, Communism is not a form of government, the government is an oligarchy. Communism is the public relations pitch. The problem is that, what is essentialy buying votes, results in totally irresponsible fiscal policies. Sooner or later the piper will be paid and any (all) Communist governments will fail. We are now in the process of being fully taken over by Communism, in the form of the Obama Administration. It is a “plan” that has been in the process for a long time, but Obama sees himself as completing the plan. The destruction of America can still be averted, but the American public MUST wake up and vote for the nation, not a promise of personal gain. It’s just a start, but OMG – Obama Must Go.

    • 45caliber

      EdinNola:

      For once, someone else realized exactly what Communism is. But they don’t buy votes – they simply ban any other party from having candidates and they very carefully pick their own. And everyone is REQUIRED to vote for those candidates.

      • Patty

        Which is why Ron Paul has never made it on a ticket. Vote in your primaries.

  • http://www.spiritjewelry.info Suzanne

    The selling of derivative credit default swaps across the world, followed by the melt-down of the Ponzi bubble and bailouts to the too-big-to-fail banks that started it all… is being sold to crooked politicians who are foisting all that nonexistent derivative debt onto taxpayers while cutting essential services and selling off publicly held assets. Of COURSE they are going to riot! They need to throw off the yoke of banker occupation!

    Tomothy Geithner only recently announced he would be raiding federal pension funds (leaving an IOU in place of the funds), and you know that will likely lead to federal takeover of IRAs and 401Ks. Police departments around the country are being downsized and are incapable of responding to citizens’ requests (we’re on our own) while taxes continue to go up. People in the U.S. are not likely to rise up until the money is so debased that a whole paycheck will not buy a week’s worth of basic groceries. You will see the expanding “entitlement class” protest and then riot first.

    • 45caliber

      Suzanne:

      In Revelations, in the Bible, it states that one day’s pay will be used to purchase one loaf of bread. That time seems to be coming.

    • independant thinker

      “Police departments around the country are being downsized and are incapable of responding to citizens’ requests ”

      They cut police and fire departments but their beurocracy (spelling I know) never shrinks and usually continues to grow.

      • 45caliber

        independant:

        They cut the police and fire people first – always – in an effort to be able to say, “But you won’t let us raise the taxes! This is the only thing we can do.”

        • jimmy the greek

          police is a good place to start cutting . we have to many of them making life miserable on all of us .

          • 45caliber

            They won’t make life miserable for you unless you give them some problem to begin with.

      • Patty

        They do the same thing in the school system. Expand administration while cutting back on teachers and learning tools.

  • 45caliber

    Greece doesn’t want to end the early retirement and large payouts. The Germans don’t like paying taxes so the Greeks can retire a lot earlier than they do. The EU has just come out with a new tax for England, at least, (read it in today’s English newspaper, that means the average English family is paying about 700 pounds per family per year to let the Greeks take things easy.

    Needless to say, if the Greeks DON’T change their ways, they are going to be cut off by the rest of Europe. And then let’s see them draw money when none is available at all.

  • 45caliber

    There is one things not really mentioned here.

    I don’t expect as much violence initially as they have seen elsewhere. Too many private citizens are armed and won’t put up with looters, etc.

    What I do expect to see if rioting breaks out is the media covering looting of places like Wal-Marts (“Look! You too could be getting rich instead of protesting! What are you waiting for?”) and the government setting aside areas (such as low rent housing districts where they frown heavily upon gun ownership) to be looted. Once the looters and rioters run out of such places, they will try – as they did in LA during the Rodney King riots – to go into middle class neighborhoods. And when they do they will likely do exactly as they did in LA – meet armed people and then turn around and leave.

    • TML

      “And when they do they will likely do exactly as they did in LA – meet armed people and then turn around and leave.”

      Amen brotha!

    • jibbs

      And when they do they will likely do exactly as they did in LA – meet armed people and then turn around and leave.

      HIGH FIVE!!

  • Rev. Billy R. Morene

    In response to the article, “Blood in the Streets of America:” I not only read the article, but I also read many of the replies. While I’m confident that the article is correct, the article and many of the replies have not addressed the issue.

    The cause of the problem with all its branches is not the economy, it’s not money, it’s not socialism, etc. These things are nothing more than the evidence of something greater that is about to happen.

    All of these things, which are happening around the world today, and especially in America, are simple because we are moving away from our foundation. American was founded on the Word of God, and for the most part that is the 1611 King James Translation. History reveals that nations that were founded and built on the Word of God were Blessed of God, and the results: They became the greatest nation of the world. Great Britain is an example. During the reign of Queen Victoria from 1819–1901, Britain because the sovereign nation of the world. We must remember that in those years America was a very young nation, and many of the moral standards of Britain were adopted by the US of A. In the later reign of Queen Victoria, the people began to move away from these moral standards, which by the way were founded on the 1611 K J T of the Word of God, The results were the decline of Britain, and while America continued to build on the Great Moral principles of the Word of God, she arose to the greatest nation the world has ever known or will ever know, until the Millennium Reign of Jesus Christ. America is the last great hope of the world, and I might add, it has been the hope of the world since its founding on July 4, 1776.

    So what is the great event that is on the horizon? Anyone that understands Scriptural Eschatology knows that the worlds present condition is preparing for the One World Government – “Globalism.”
    The One World Government will be controlled by the “Antichrist.” This will usher in all the events recorded in the Scriptural book of Revelation, which is the Apocalypse of Jesus Christ.

    America must come back to God or suffer the consequences. To know nothing of the past is to understand little of the present and to have no concept of the future.

  • BigBadJohn

    FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS I agree we are being set up, I agree Obama is edging us close to this, however, so was Reagan, GW Bush, GH Bush and all of the republicans that voted for deficit spending. If we still had the 100 billion dollar deficit that Bush inherited, instead of the 1.5 trillion dollar deficit that he left Obama – we would not be in this position!

    What scares me is reading this blog, a majority of folks seem to think that the solution is to re-elect those republicans that set us up in the first place! No we need to start fresh. We need to dump BOTH parties, the republicans are not looking out for your best interests. Remember back in 1994 when they promised us a balanced budget amendment? If that was in place we would not be in this predicament. Heck even this last election they promised us big spending cuts – but refused to un-do what they “accomplished” during the 2000′s – running the deficit up by a trillion dollars!
    400 billion – two unfunded wars
    100 billion – unfunded prescription drug plan
    300 billion increase in military spending
    400 billion tax cut

    • TML

      Ron Paul is a strick conservative constitutionalist Republican and libertarian. He has the most experience, definitive solutions, and a solid consistent voting record. Republican, Democrat, left, right, bi-partisan, non-partisan… I don’t care what label you give yourself. Ron Paul is the best man for the job…. PERIOD!

      • VIRGINIA

        RON PAUL IS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION–IS THAT OK WITH YOU??? DO U CARE ABOUT OUR UNEMPLOYED CITIZENS, LIKE MYSELF? OR ARE U JUST CONCERNED ABOUT YOURSELF AND THE HECK WITH ALL THE OHTERS WHO LOOK FOR JOBS,WHILE THE ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE HOLDING THEM DOWN.! I LIVE IN ILLINOIS THE SANCTURY STATE OF THAT LOUSY LOSER SEN. DURBIN WHO CATERS TO ILLEGALS (GLAD I NEVER VOTED FOR THAT WORTHLESS HUMAN). HE IS PROMOTING (ALONG WITH OBAMA) THE DREAM ACT. READ RON PAULS BOOK ON IMMIGRATION—THEN TELL ME IF U STILL THINK HE IS THE RIGHT MAN! HE HAS SOME GOOD IDEAS, BUT NOT ON IMMIGRATION!

        • karolyn

          Do you really want a job picking fruit or raking pine straw? Most Americans won’t do the work that the illegals do. They are hard workers.

          • VIRGINIA

            FOR YOUR INFORMATION- I DID PICK CROPS ALONG WITH MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND I AM BORN IN THIS COUNTRY!! WHAT CROPS HAVE YOU PICKED?? I PICKED TOMATOES IN THE HOT FIELDS. SO STOP SAYING THAT ILLEGALS TAKE JOBS THAT WE WON’T TAKE. HOW MANY FAMILY MEMBERS LIVE IN UR HOME?? I KNOW ILLEGALS LIVE 8 TO 10 IN ONE ROOM, EVER GUESS HOW THEY CAN AFFORD A NEW PICK UP TRUCK?AND STILL COLLECT FOOD STAMPS, ETC.??CAUSE ONLY ONE FAMILY MEMBER PAYS PROPERTY TAXES WHILE ALL THE OTHERS FILE FOR FOOD STAMPS, SOC. SEC BENEFITS-GET EDUCATED AND DO UR RESEARCH THEN TALK TO ME ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. ONE THING I DID LEARN FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF, AS LONG AS U HAVE A JOB, U DON’T CARE ABOUT THE UNEMPLOYED CITIZENS, BUT U NEED TO LOOK INTO WHAT ILLEGALS ARE DOING TO OUR SOC. SEC BENEFITS–DID U KNOW THAT THEY CAN COLLECT BENEFITS UNDER THE ANP LAW??AND STILL LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE U S??

          • Curt

            Obviously you have never worked with illegals. They are far from hard working. I have had to work with them and they all stood around while the few whites that were there did all of the work. When confronted, they would shrug their shoulders and say they did not understand english, then they would laugh at the whites working so hard to get the job done.

          • DaveH

            I’ve had the opposite experience, Curt. The illegals that I’ve borne witness to were very hard workers. In both of our cases, admittedly, the sample sizes are too small to reach any valid conclusions.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – Who do you think did the work before the influx of illegals?

            I used to live in farm country. At harvest, the trucks would come around and we’d hop on to to go to the fields. Didn’t get paid much, either. But we loved it!

            This was also before easy welfare. We were all glad to have work of any kind. Kids worked instead of doing drugs. Our youth were the first to suffer from the illegal workers, because those were the jobs they got first.

          • Kjunme

            Karolyn, I think you should be informed that the illigal imagrants are doing more than picking fruit. I work in the construction field and they are everywhere willing to work for as little to nothing. The way they do this is 4 or 5 will get together and rent a 1 bedroom apartment and share all the expenses and send the rest of the money back to mexico. I for one cannot work for $12 hour and pay my bills here in the good ole USA. I just thought you should know the truth.

        • TML

          There are some points about immigration that might not be to everyones liking, but all together, he isn’t “for” illegal aliens as you claim. He insists greatly on securing our borders, rather than the borders of overseas countries, which would take care of a lot of that by itself. If that is the best ‘dirt’ you got on Dr. Paul, then I rest my case.

        • TML

          You reek of racism with your immigration hatred. One of the reasons we have an immigration problem is because our borders are wide open. We are protecting borders of other countries rather than our own. Bring our troops home, secure our own borders, end the Federal Reserve, start producing in this country again, and the jobs will return!

          Also, stop with the caps… it’s considered yelling, and very rude.

        • DaveH

          That’s not true, Virginia. Here is Ron Paul’s stance on illegal immigration:
          http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

        • Average Joe

          VIRGINIA,
          You make certain assertations concerning Ron Paul over immigration….Care to back that up with some solid eveidence?Oh and please, don’t post a link to some silly article you read somewhere, that was written by someone other than Ron Paul….Post a link where we can hear the words from Ron Paul’s mouth the he supports illegal immigration….I have $10 that says you can’t do it ( because it isn’t true)….Now you have a choice….back up your statements with verifiable facts or retract it as being an uninformed opinion with no basis in fact or reality….Your move……

        • Jay

          Virginia, you either have a screw loose or you have screw loose. The only one’s that support and are working feverishly to eliminate our borders are, obama and his administration and several anti-American organizations such as, La Raza, MeCha, the ACLU, and a score of other left-wing socialist organizations. Your unfounded accusation that Ron Paul is for illegal immigration is simply idiotic! Check your sources before you post and make an azz of yourself.

    • 45caliber

      BBJ:

      It isn’t tax cuts that are hurting us. It is the spending increases. We are already paying some of the highest taxes in years. Let’s get that spending cut!

      • BigBadJohn

        Tax cuts were only part of the increases under republican control. Military spending increases, invading two – now three countries, prescription drug plan. If you do not count the tax cuts, republicans increased spending by 900 billion – that is more than Obama has increased spending.

        I agree the madness has to STOP! But neither of the two main parties has the balls to make ANY SIGNIFICANT cuts.

        • TML

          Republican Ron Paul has NEVER voted to increase spending, and would make those drastic cuts, especially by bringing our military home.

        • TML

          btw… two, now three? You are forgetting Pakistan, and Yemen (who our government won’t even acknowledge, because we’re using drones for airstrikes)

          • BigBadJohn

            Agree – ya I guess I didn’t count them all.

            I have issues with libertarian party also, but agree Ron Paul is looking better and better.

          • TML

            @BBJ – Yeah, it’s getting hard to keep up with them all. Sickening isn’t it?

    • http://google gary gerke

      The amazing part about your blog is you never mentioned Clinton’s administration sitting on their hands and doing nothing in the middle East or elsewhere. Granted, Clinton had a surplus of money in the coffers when he left office, however, this was due to his denial and inaction for political purposes. Clinton’s administration was directly responsible for the real estate bubble along with the banking industry being allowed to lend to the blind crazy and cripple knowing that there was very little chance the loans would ever be honored.

      • BigBadJohn

        Clinton’s inaction was as much due to his hands being tied by six years of investigations.
        The biggest contribution to the housing mess, Clinton signed into law, but as folks like to point out, the president can only sign legislation not write it. Sponsored by non other than Phil Gramm the guy that also brought you the Enron Loophole. Incidentally McCain had called Gramm his economic adviser – until it hit the fan.

        The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act effectively removed the separation that previously existed between Wall Street investment banks and depository banks. Some experts believe that this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2010 by allowing banks to gamble with their depositor’s money. Others argue that repealing the provisions had little impact on the financial system and even helped restore stability during the financial crisis.

        • jimmy the greek

          Well john clinton sure screwed over the Serbs .

      • 45caliber

        gary:

        Clinton did not have all that money sitting when he left office.

        What they did was cut the requested amounts. That “saved” all that money. But just because they never spent it doesn’t mean they actually had it. They simply didn’t spend even more money they didn’t have in the first place.

  • Henry Smith

    Bert, those folks believing Jesus Christ are not the people to worry about. At one time Communism was the greatest organized force that Satan had on earth to cause people to suffer. Communism is still there but what is it now that causing so much suffering? It is not the Christians.

    • 45caliber

      Henry:

      The real problem now – to me at least – are all the people who insist “Jesus is love. So you must love me regardless of what sins and crimes I do. You must give me what I want if you love me. And if you are Christian, you MUST love me!”

      Too many people, many of them good Christians, are buying into this. In fact, one of the arguments is that since Jesus loves everyone, he will accept everyone into heaven, regardless of what sins they have committed. So there is no reason to not sin.

      Many ministers have also bought into this belief and if they aren’t already preaching it they are being urged to do it by their officials.

      I think we need to go back to the old “sin and go to hell” type of ministry. “Hell fire and damnation”. Then perhaps we could start getting back to where we should be.

      (I told our district superintendent that in front of our last minister. He was offended.)

      • Jay

        Well stated and so true, 45caliber! And don’t forget the “Name it and claim it” crowd that have this notion that God is like a genie in the bottle, just ask and rub the lamp, and presto, you’ll find a cadillac sitting in front of your house in the morning! Seems marxist-socialism has infiltrated the church as well as our political system.

      • karolyn

        Aren’t we all supposed to aspire to be like Jesus, the most loving, enlightened man that ever lived? Think “turn the other cheek,” “love thy enemy,” etc. THAT is the way it’s supposed to be! Unfortunately, the majority of people are all out for themselves and filled with anger, self-justification, self-righteousness, greed and hate.

        • Jay

          Did Jesus come to bring peace or not?
          Matthew 10:34; Luke 2:14; 22:36 and Mark 9:50; John 14:27; 16:33; Acts 10:36

          No Peace
          (Matthew 10:34-36) – “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35″For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.”
          (Luke 12:51,52) – “Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two, and two against three…”
          (Luke 22:36) – “And He said to them, “But now, let him who has a purse take it along, likewise also a bag, and let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one.”

          Peace
          (Mark 9:50) – “Salt is good; but if the salt becomes unsalty, with what will you make it salty again? Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with one another.”
          (John 14:27) – “Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives, do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.
          (John 16:33) – “These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace…”
          (Acts 10:36) – “The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all).”

          Context is the key to Jesus’ words. In Matthew 10:34, Jesus is speaking about the divisions that will come, even among family members, over their belief or lack of belief about Him. In that respect, He has come to bring division. This context is also related in Luke 12:51.

          Luke 22:36 Jesus is preparing the disciples for His departure. He is telling them that they will need to provide for themselves and even protect themselves. Up to that time, everything they had needed had been provided. But, after the crucifixion and ascension, they would again be “on their own.” They would need to work, provide for their families, and, if need be, protect their own; hence, the mention of the sword. Of course, the Bible teaches that Christians are to be peaceful, loving, and forgiving; however, it also teaches that we are not required to sit idly by when persecuted unrighteously.

          The rest of the “peace” verses, teach just that: peace.

          Jesus did not contradict Himself. When we look at His words in context, we can see what He was saying and that there is no contradiction at all.

        • Jay

          Karolyn stated: Aren’t we all supposed to aspire to be like Jesus, the most loving, enlightened man that ever lived?

          Coming from a new ager who believes in re-incarnation, the above question is nothing short of ridiculous!

          • karolyn

            Jay – Just because I don’t believe what you do does not mean I don’t believe that Jesus Christ was the greatest man who ever lived! Get over yoruself!

          • Jay

            You are correct Karolyn, you do not believe as I do. Thank you for the clarification! And Jesus was not just a man, but as I stated, He was God in the flesh! Render Him some respect and don’t water Him down as most god-less pagans, you among them, are of the pernicious habit of doing!

        • Jay

          Karolyn stated:Jesus, the most loving, enlightened man that ever lived.

          Not just a man Karolyn, but God in the flesh who came to offer Himself as a sacrifice for all! Don’t dilute Him, that is heresy!

        • 45caliber

          karolyn:

          Jesus came to take away our sins IF we believed in Him and asked Him to accept us. At no point did He state that He would take away the sins of everyone simply because He loved everyone. As I’ve heard elsewhere, Jesus (and God) loves the sinner but hates the sin. And Jesus WILL be the judge on judgement day. We want to be like him – and try to be – but that does not mean that we must accept every crackpot in existence and let them have free access to our children.

          As was once pointed out, what would you do if you came home and found a man there who stunk to high heaven? The moment you ordered him out, he would say, “But Jesus loves everyone. You are a Christian, so you have to accept me and let me live here.”

          Would you allow him to do that?

          Jesus threw the money changers out in anger. They were sinning. That doesn’t mean he accepted them and let them continue to sin. So don’t try to insist we Christians MUST accept everyone in love.

          • steve in AZ

            I try hard to be a Christian, having lost my faith as a young man, due to ignorance and arrogance. I pray for Jesus to abide in my heart and bless those I love and care for and to help me to understand His signs as I walk the path before me. Faith once lost, is hard to find again, as I can attest. God, through the bible, exhorts me to love my fellow man, and I try my best to do so.

            I see nothing wrong with loving my fellow man as I put a bullet through his brain when he comes to liberate those things I have had the foresight to provide my family against the dark days ahead. There is no reason I must hate my fellow man as I bring him closer to God in Heaven.

            VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Karolyn,
          Jay says

          No peace:
          (Matthew 10:34-36) – “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35″For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.”

          Karolyn,Christ sounds like the Devil,that doen’t sound like the son of a righeous God.What do you think?BTW!He coudn’t tell the difference between a whale and a fish.Some creator.

          • Jay

            Again, coal miner, you struggle with reading comprehension! Also, your pavlovian indoctrination is showing, as you perceive only key words, or trigger words, while dismissing context. Naturally, you are then able to impose into the article, your de-fault and pre-conceived, erroneous assumptions regarding the subject discussed. End result, good doggie, here’s your treat, woof woof!

  • Henry Smith

    BigBadJohn, If it gives you some comfort to excuse O’Butthead because of what others did before him, go ahead. He is the problem NOW and we might not survive what he is doing.

    • BigBadJohn

      Agree you are not going to get an argument about who owns the problem now. However, putting the same people back in power that got us to this point is not the answer.

  • SMSgt Z retired Nam 68

    Message to all.Time to get you med’s adjusted

    • Jay

      Spoken like a true big- pharma supporter whore!

  • http://bachman ruffus

    this is to every one that thinks that your vote counts. You are all dumb ass SHEEPLE!WAKE THE HELL UP!the members of the biulderburg group (the richest of the rich) control everything. Ron Paul is the only politition that tells the truth thats why he wont get elected. the person that go’s bye conservive by birth you are so stupid. things dont work the way you think. Oboma is a pupit he is working for Soaros and copany. and michel Bachmann is never gana be presidaint.and her veiws will not work. you know im tired of trying to explain how the system works,you SHEEPLE are so dam stupid and brain washed. thats why america is falling apart.you all that suport Oboma (kenyen born) will see the truth down the road same with Mitt Romney lovers and Bachmann and Rick Perry.they all work for the BANKERS.i hpoe you all suffer wen the colapse comes i know im ready and cant wait untill the great culling of the flock comes.then all you stupid sheep will be gone!a-men

    • http://google gary gerke

      Hello Ruffus,

      You have very little right in your blog, all of the presidents work for the world corporation that is run by the federal reserve, the G-20 and the IMF. The main player in the financial interests of the world is the Rothchild family in England, who is the major stockholder in the federal reserve. This family is worth around 3-trillion dollars which should tell you that they and others run the worlds economics and various administrations.

    • jimmy the greek

      The bankers are the zionest , you are right you know , but you just did not say it .

      • 45caliber

        You are really racist, aren’t you? I think nearly every post you’ve made today is racist. Please go somewhere else.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        one of a few outright racists on this forum in the past several years.

    • Erik

      SPELL CHECK ROCKS!!!
      XOXO

  • Monk21

    never read so much crap in all my life…both sides, your all crazy.
    Also the thing in Vancouver was just a bunch of twits (black heads) and the rest well they are turning themselves into police and if they don’t their parents are.
    Americans just seem to be getting Dumb, Dumb and Dumber.

  • i41

    rufus, so why did you vote and continue to support the avowed marxist/communist democrat s–t birds that are all UN and mandate supporters. Tax cheat Geithner, Greasy Rangel, pay no taxes Daschle, Onumnutts, and the Nazi Traitor George Soros, you know the puke mega hedge fund trader, that didn’t have any restriction place on his Wall Street manliputions of the Stock Market all who are good close rump buddies of bankers and Wall Street. Are you just a moron ,worrying about Bachman, Perry, or Romney working for bankers, any truck driver would be better than the niggardly marxist muslim, we have now. What sorry azzed party has worked for decades to ruin America, the marxist/communist democrat party smucks since its inception. Prove me wrong, the rinos who alway compromise arte just as worthless.

    • VIRGINIA

      I41—THANKS FOR TELLING IT HOW IT REALLY IS, RUFUS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL TO LEARN HOW TO SPELL. HE IS THE STUPID ONE. MOST PEOPLE LIKE HIM ARE ANGRY PEOPLE WHO “CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH”.

  • M. Franklin

    America is too dumbed down and drugged up to rise up against a Hitler regime gov’t.

    • http://google gary gerke

      You my friend, are absolutely right, dumbed down by the government on purpose and drugged up by a government that will exploit the people dependentcy when it is time!

  • http://www.TomBlairEA.com Thomas Avery Blair, EA

    I’d like to pose a question for consideration on this topic, but with a bit of a twist: Assuming the USA as a nation collapses, do you think individual states will become nations unto themselves or will our entire land mass fall under direct control by the United Nations or some dictator out of Europe or from the Near East?

    Will there be a second civil war between the states?

    Will our own armed forces (Army, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard) fire upon U.S. cities and citizen militias who are trying to keep the peace during this “blood in the streets” scenario?

    Will military and local police forces obey the command to disarm all citizens, even those who have licenses and permits for their weapons?

    Will we be able to find and prosecute the criminal elements of our local, state and U.S. governments in the aftermath?

    At least food for thought, is it not?

    Respectfully submitted,

    Thomas Avery Blair, EA

    • jimmy the greek

      The police and most of the military well be on the side of the zionist bankers and well be killing any one that don’t go along with the Six Point’s master plan that they have for us Goyan .

    • Patty

      Texas will.

  • Laura

    We have become one nation under surveillance, we are being attacked from within in every aspect – hi tech is being used against us- google works with the government, therefore what needs to be taken out first…..

    Our cell phones, computers, laptops etc…. pinpoint exactly where we are

    When all hell breaks loose if what needs to be taken out first does not occur, do not make yourself a identifiable target

    Ayn Rand warned us of all of this a very long time ago, most did not listen, experience is the teacher of
    fools

  • SiliconDoc

    I read and studied how Greece, because of the EU monetary and policy control, cannot DEFLATE their dollar to pay for this crisis like they had been doing in the past – the giant sucking brussels EU overlord conformity control means the whole 25+ nations are in one bad bag.
    So you still have these demarcated nation lines but the nation FREEDOM is a pile of stinking WASTE the EU has USURPED and spoiled.
    Now I have some suspicions those internationalists with no loyalty to any nation are helping the collapse of the USA along with OBDUMBO and commie crew stupidly going along and loving it because power goes to UN goes to IMF goes OUT of the USA as they have been SCREAMING THEY WANT FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.
    The enemy is already here, and here in great number.

    • JeffH

      SiliconDoc, I agree…something to add to your comment every country that joins the EU loses it’s independent sovereignty. If a state fails to comply with the law of the European Union, it may be fined or have funds withdrawn. In extreme cases, there are provisions for the voting rights or membership of a state to be suspended. Yet, as sovereignty still originates from the national level, it may be withdrawn by a member state who wishes to leave.

      Are all Americans willing to give up our nations “soveriegnty” to a NWO ” North American Union”?

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      “We have seen the enemy and they is us !!!”

  • Don

    ruffus, you must be one of those dumb bastards that didn’t get an education, because you can’t spell, and you don’t know what you are talking about, but you are right about one thing,, Odumbo is a pupet !!!

    • Curt

      Uh, Don… it is spelled ‘puppet’.

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      You might want to begin using spellcheck yourself, Don. “Pupet” doesn’t compute.

    • steve in AZ

      My heart cries out for my country.

      VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • Mozande

    What the Hell are you trying to say? There has been blood spilling in the streets of America for years. Are you saying more white folks will be dying? Blacks and Latinos have been dying in America’s street for decades. There’s always some meat head like you, coming with this scare tactic B.S. What rock have you, and those dumb azzes who idolize you been living under?

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Many less blacks and latinos will die in the streets if they simply refrain from engaging in criminal behavior. It would also eliminate prison overcrowding.

      • Kate8

        LTC – Excellent point!

        One of the more profound comments of the day.

    • Patty

      No one cared (including thier own) because blacks were killing blacks, latinos were killing latinos, etc. Now, it will be every man/woman/child for themselves. Racism will disappear when survivalism appears.

      • steve in AZ

        Racism will never disappear until ignorance does, and it is obviously going strong.

        VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

        • Patty

          Good point. I was wishful thinking.

  • Jack

    Folks, I have a nit-pick with some of these posts, i.e., It’s “MARTIAL LAW” not “MARSHAL LAW”!! Being picky is not my style, but a post should ensure that it is properly structured and that the use of words are properly spelled!! Your post will have a more thoughtful impact!!

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Good point.

  • jopa

    Curt: You beat me to it.I did a refresh and there was your post.Good catch.LOL

  • jopa

    Jack; If you are talking about Marshall Dillon he is the law.

    • jibbs

      Jopa, You are right! Marshall Dillion is the law, but sadley, he died a few weeks ago. A truly great loss and I still love watching Gunsmoke, and the Paladine, not to mention Sunday breakfast watching Gene Autry.

      • JeffH

        jibbs, my favorite channel early in the day is Encore westerns, all of the great westerns…Maverick and Lawmman every morning with coffee.

        • steve in AZ

          Right on, jibbs and JeffH.

          As Festus would say, ” That’s mighty thoughty of yuh.”

          VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • Daniel from TN

    I believe Obama and the Liberals WANT violence to occur, even to the point of civil war. That is the true purpose of all the economic killing legislation. If war does break out it will give them a reason to call in the UN to restore peace; and usher the US into the New World Order.

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Right on !!!

  • Linda

    What the heck do you expect in civilized countries, that are allowing the entrance of millions of ethnic populations too fast,who don’t contribute much, but expect all the benefits of contributing populations. The large marjority of them don’t even know how to use a toilet and toilet tissue, and their savage religions and culture are breaking down civilization. Their numbers are increasing at alarming rates, and they are sucking too many resources. A country can only absorb so many so fast. The assimilation rates are pitiful, and they are quickly becoming a danger to the native populations.

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      In politics nothing happens by accident.

  • Linda

    Mozande you would be right, but you fail to mention that they are largely dying by their own hand. They are still savages too

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      Savages are dangerous to anyone in range.

  • Shavager

    Make your presidential candidate choice with examination of the background, voting record and candidate’s conservative stance. Regardless of whether your candidate wins or loses, IT’S ADAMANT TO SUPPORT A GOP WINNER!! OBUMBLER AND HIS CABINET HAVE NEVER OWNED BUSINESSES OR RAN A BUSINESS, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO CREATE JOBS, THEIR ECONOMIC POLICY IS FOR GOVT. TO OUTSPEND THE PUBLIC’S TAX OBLIGATIONS–DRIVING UP DEBT–HIGHEST IN WORLD’S HISTORY. He’s the biggest FOOD STAMP PRESIDENT IN HISTORY OF U.S.!! PUT OBUMBLER AND CABINET IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE IN 2012!! Obumbler HAS SPENT MORE THAN ALL 43 Presidents preceding him COMBINED. SPENT MORE MONEY THAN ANYONE IN HISTORY OF U.S.!! VOTE HIM OUT IN ’12, VOTE FOR PROSERITY AND JOBS–VOTE OBUMBLER OUT IN ’12!!

  • chuckb

    when barry loses the next election and it’s anywhere near close you will probably see half the cities in the u.s. burn down.

    • Jay

      For sure, all his salivating and demented lap-dogs, raised on hand-outs and dreams of sugar-plum fairies will no-doubt go berserk!

    • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

      A very likely result considering the social and mental level of the actors.

    • 45caliber

      Fine by me. The cities are too big to begin with.

    • steve in AZ

      I reckon not. The red-staters have all the guns…

      VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • jay Lindberg

    When Obama and the rest of Congress agreed to the last bailout, I knew that we would need some real restructuring for it to work. If the restructuring did not happen, we would see another bubble to create a short term illusion of stability or we would simply end up in a bigger hole.

    Well, this time the bubble didn’t happen. We ended up in a bigger hole and the restructuring never happened.

    So what’s next, for once the talking heads are right. Violence is coming.

    I propose, that instead of locking your doors and hiding behind your investments in gold, that you get off your butts and pick up a baseball bat. This system collapsing, not because of the handouts to the poor but the corruption at the top. We need to hang those dirty B**tards by their red power ties.

    • Patty

      I will print up the signs you can pin (or a short blade like they do to the bulls) to them. How about, “CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?” Yup, I was shouting. Caps appropriate.

  • LTC (Rt) Ray Burke

    A stellar collection of red, white and blue blogs. Keep it up, everyone. The enemy is listening.

    • Jay

      Let them listen, so what?

  • jibbs

    Average Joe says:
    June 29, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Kate8,
    I have no guilt over the matter…as you said, I had nothing to do with what had happened. I do however feel that what was done was wrong on so many levels. As for not being born an Indian, It is all about the culture and heritage that facinates me…and many of their rituals and ceremoies etc, are not shared with outsiders…and these are the things I would like to learn about…but not being born an Indian, precludes me from knowing these things. Maybe deep down, I just long for the simple life afforded in that era…as opposed the insane non stop hustle and bustle world we live in today.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I agree 100%, I think in my former life I was a cowboy and friends with the Indians, perhaps Lt. Charles Gatewood was a friend also.
    To quote Geronimo, “with all this land, why is there no room for the Apachie”? And you are correct Average Joe, life was harder back then, but a simple life.

    • Kate8

      jibbs – I wholly agree with you and Average on those points.

      I just think it’s ridiculous to say we should give the land back.

  • http://bachman G.BUSH

    FIRST ITS A BLACK GUY AND NOW A WOMEN TO RUN AMERICA. WHAT A JOKE

    • Patty

      Ya, I think we can all see how well white males have done running this country. (down the drain)

  • http://bachman G.BUSH

    and we have been in the new world order for 200 years.people do your home work befor you say something.

  • http://bachman ruffus

    to don and virgina you know i may have spelld wrong but i do know what im talk’n about.im not a racist i hate all you truly dumb sheeple. and i41 i didnt vote for any of those comunist i didnt vote. im smarter than that to waste my time.and gary gerk i know that the rothchilds play a huge roll in things but their not on the top .and to all that ridacules me you are the dumb ones you realy think Oboma makes the calls or who ever wins the next run. they dont, all im for is that every american is free even you dumb ass’s that need a false leader. like i said earlyer the ones that are not ready for whats to come. keep taking your meds,every thing will be all rite.keep waching fox,cnn,msnbc,you listen to them and tou sheeple will do just fine.and BACHMANN REALLY DOES SUCK!p.s i dont have a spell chek and im not to woried about my spelling as much as you sheep do.at lear im not fooled by their lies like you. rag on me all you want i got my gold and silver and my guns and my food.can you spell that out for me.

  • chuckb

    g. bush, women were never my choice for president, however, when i compare palin to the males running for president, she stands way over them. first off she talks and acts like she is a true patriot and not afraid to say it. i hear sincerity in her voice, not bs to patronize people. she has a good administrative record and is not controlled by the republican party elite.

  • mark

    The riots in Vancouver were over a sports event and in the end did little long-term damage. The demonstrations in Greece have been remarkably non-violent given the circumstances. Very few deaths or serious injuries – largely just protest gatherings with some rocks and bottles thrown. The real violence totally ignored by this article has been in the Middle East. A totally irresponsible and wicked Syrian regime have shot down hundreds probably thousands of unarmed demonstrators in the streets and will no doubt shoot thousands more. Bahrain has been pretty awful on this count as well. Far more have died in those two states than in Libya for instance. Or in Greece were tear gas not machine guns are the main state weapon. I fear the state more than the people. The real violence in this world is state violence. Most of this article is a lot of fear mongering. Fear the powerful, the people in charge, the corporations not demonstrators in the street. For the most part they are legitimately protesting against injustice. But the corporate controlled media, including FOX (Murdoch’s giant consortium) tries to portray them as the villains. It was like in the thirties when the newspapers all cried “Labor Violence!” The reality was “Management Violence!” The workers were all unarmed and management had its armed goons and police shooting them down in the streets. And yes our military would shoot down the American people. They just follow orders. That is their creed like all militaries, paid guns who kill whoever they are told to.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Problem with what you are saying is…you cant have it both ways.That dog dont hunt.So if the economy tanks and the money isnt worth anything,now the troops will get paid with what?If the money isnt worth anything then how do you pay the soldiers?That is why your statement is fallacial.You cant have a collapsed monetary system(what it will take to get the rioting started),and pay the soldiers to shoot the rioters at the same time.Please think before posting…it will make us all feel better if you know what you are talking about.-CC.

  • ONTIME

    In the 1770′s when this nation was formed the people who carried the fight to the Brits was approximately 20% of the known population living in the colonies. If we have to have another civil conflict the number had better be a lot more thant 20% and it had better know what it is they want for the battle they are to ensue. This country is loaded with booty, natural resources and treasures that boggle the mind, how hard is it going to be to keep the enimies of this country from attacking?

  • Bill Rid

    Mr. Myers, why does WDN use the words “blood may” spill in the streets. Why can’t anybody ever use the words “it will”. Are we so different other humans in other countries? Don’t think so. Violence will start in the inner cities where black unemployment is highest, where social decay is rampant, government handouts are the rule rather than the exception and where democratic politicians have been in charge for generations after generations. Thereafter, violence will spread via roving gangs of thugs and anarchists hoping to get their share of the pie. We all hear the whispers about “packing” and waiting for the day. God help us all.

  • http://deaf-v-news.com Gary

    Arrogance is nothing new, when it comes to American politics.
    From 2001, through 2009, every dim bulb, out there, demanded the election of 2000 “was stolen” (and I have one of those dim bulbs for a friend and former neighbor, who still says that!)
    It’s as if they missed the news, from June, 2001, when it was declared that the final tally of hand-counts was completed and that Bush had won Florida, by (I think) 1,300 votes.
    And now, as their man destroys the economy they continually blame Bush for this — however, Bush’s deficit was nearing the trillon dollar mark in 2008 and Obama’s deficit hit $15 trillion, shortly after he took office, because all he did was run it higher and higher.

    Not only that, Obama (as well as the dim bulbs, who elected him) had/have the arrogance to blame Bush for that!!

    And, to make matter worse, it was the democrats, in Congress, who pushed the laws allowing people, who couldn’t afford the mortgage, to purchase houses that would lead to the financial downfall of America.
    So, because it happened, on Bush’s watch, every dim bulb, democrat, out there, blames Bush!!

    • Thinking About

      Bush administration spent like drunk sailors. Bush remained consistant with his business reputation of breaking two companies and then USA. If the backers of not increasing the debt limit and we are faced with the results just what do you think any political party will have to work with in 2012. Call that smart or dumb. Just why would it be smart to elect the party again who stayed the course to ruins. Time to kick them to the curb and get this great nation back on the road to recovery. Either pay up or get out.

  • http://aol Miz

    About 3 weeks ago aboma signed Executive Order #13575 concerning ‘sustainable rural communities’. There will be a council of 1 member each from 25 different federal agencies which will take control over all aspects of the lives of 16% of rural American citizens. Good grief – 25 different fingers making that pie. Sounds like a lead up to a massive clustermush. (Don’t laugh, I cleaned up that word for those with delicate sensibilities) I find it strangely coincidental that Agenda 21, the united nations plan includes the words ‘sustainable development’. Agenda 21 appears to include the end of national sovereighty, abolition of private property, restructure of the family unit, limits on mobility & opportunity (no indepedence or privacy) and abandonment of Constitutional rights. All of that and then being forced to move to the stack & pack buildings in a controlled environment. I’ve had the quirky thought that aboma wants to be a top dog in global government.
    If I remember correctly, aboma said something about needing a private cadre that would be as well-armed, well-trained, and as well-funded as the US Military. Well, he also said his Dad was wounded in WWII and received good services when he was addressing a veterans orgaization. As I understand it, daddy obama would have been about
    9 1/2 years old at the end of WWII and daddy soetero would have been about 10 years old. There must be a daddy #3 somewhere who fought in WWII??

  • http://lawcointpp.org Rick

    It’s said best in Latin: si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
    I honestly believe that war, in the form of civil unrest, is coming to our country. I hate it, but all the signs are there. The best any of us can do is to be prepared to stand against it, and to help our neighbors do the same.
    I’ve been involved in two wars in my lifetime, and it is an ugly business. There is no glory or honor in it.
    Depend upon the protection of Divine Providence and your family, friends, and neighbors. Cling to the principles that founded this great land and this too shall pass.

  • RKZ777

    Let the ones who praise the likes of barry (obama) speak, the nancy pelosis’,eric holders’, shumers’, bloombergs, clintons’, reids’, the list goes on. Because when they speak in defense of these thugs they have identified themselves as socialist as well. Just like those Frenchman that sold out to the nazi in World War II, their country remembered them and when the time came they were remembered, one and all and they payed the price. So let them speak, just keep notes.

  • RKZ777

    Gary has it right about Clinton allowing the have nots to purchase homes they couldn’t pay for. We’re paying for them now. But that was the plan in the first place. The socialist democrats have to keep giving our money to the “minorities” who have been fed by the working class over many generations, just so they can keep getting elected. I just have to ask one thing of these “Vote for the hand that feeds you” crowd, no matter what lowlife they may have voted for. Did you are your grandfathers ever get that mule and 160 acres they said they were going to give you?
    Obviously not! So when are you going to stand as your own man, stop being used for the good of those 140 or so elitist and be a man your family can be proud of and support the United States of America under the Constitution?

  • chuckb

    gary, the scary part of the 2000 election is, look at the amount of people that voted for al gore. i wonder if they now recollect their stupidity after watching the actions of gore and his global warming escapade. the man is even worse than barry if that’s possible.

  • The Prophet-Messenger

    06-30-2011
    I know I’m a little late in posting this response but I shall tell you all this was predicted eons ago by the Old Prophets! My question to you is this: “Can People Handle The Truth Or Will They Continue To Promote False Ideals Towards One Another”.
    Everyone runs around today promoting pick up the cross, walk in my shoes, relay the message and such but the truth is; who will plant the fields for you that you may pluck the food from on your journeys and who will Dig Up as well as make the monies, whether it be gold, silver or such, that you may barter with, and who will grow the Necessary Trees And Plants or process as well as make the materials needed for your services if everyone runs around carefree teaching, this is the way, walk in it?
    What you have Now is an off shoot of these Principles/teachings where-in just about everyone has become dependent upon this philosophy of free handouts rather than upon the work ethic and also the feeling it is owed to them. It has, in essence, restrained the logical thinking of tomorrows subsistence both in subconsciousness and conscienceless.
    To give you a few examples of what I mean, not to long ago wal- mart offered some of their items at discounted prices, there is also the date of black Friday, and I also watched a church Easter Egg Hunt where-in prizes could be found and the peoples went crazy upon one another, including accusations against one another, in their efforts to get something for free? In the first instance of wal-mart, they ran over one another on their way in and fought over the discounted items availability to them. Same with the Black Friday and the Easter Egg Hunt, only in this last instance, it also manifested the (I found it first and no you didn’t I did, Your lying scene.).
    It is written: And Thou shalt Take No Gift for the Gift Blindeth the Wise, and Perverteth the Words of the Righteous. As you can see, this gift philosophy is applied to today’s politics as well in the form of monetary gains, false witness against thy neighbor/neighbors and monetary manipulations such as bribery and extortion, to include trade-off favors and just about anything else in our lives as well. They are taught; its Ok to lie in the interest of: Either ones benefits to themselves, actions against another person/persons, or cover-up for one reason or another?
    I Think I’ve spoken enough to either have you consider these words of wisdom or forever turn you against myself for being honest with you hoping you may consider the promises my Relatives Abraham, Isaac,And Jacob, as well as the Forefathers of today’s Fathers made when they cut the calf and walked between the parts there-of.
    I Shall Leave You with this Parable: “Here-in These Words unto you are True Wisdom that you may Contemplate, Consider, Correlate, and Correct?”

  • Wayne Morgan

    You sir, are the first to my knowledge to speak the truth. Everybody else is doing everything but telling the truth. I hate to see it come to that , but there seems to be certain elements in Washington that finds this perdicament that we are in less than serious. I asure you sir , doing without food and medicine and a roof over your head can make matters serious in a hurry. Maybe thats what they want, another war here at home. The thing that baffels me is that no in Washington seems to know how we got here, but they sure want to get up there and help work things out. The ones that have been there the longest don’t seem to want to leave. Must have something to do with the money and health care and the partys. Sounds like a good life to me.

  • Charles

    45,
    I do agree with you on whats being taught in our schools has an effect
    on what comes out of them and it`s not nice. This is not the main reason our schools do so poorley. Because no matter what our schools teach, they are doomed for failer.

    • Bleh

      Read somewhere that the Government gets exactly what it pays for and it makes sense. If it did not there would be hell to pay and heads would roll.

  • Charles

    Charlie,
    I agree it would take 30 days or less for the wealth or money
    to end up back in the hands of the people who now have it. I know I would get my share back,because I would work like hell to get it back,
    as most people would, that worked like hell to get it in the first place.

  • Charles

    WIA,
    You know Indians aren`t suppose to drink fire water.You sound like you have been nipping a little to much. I live in Ohio and no we don`t
    have the problems you have in Arizona. Having said that, I believe Ohio and Arizona are part of this great country,called the USA. I
    believe we are partners in this fight against illigal immagration.We
    back your Governor 100% in what she has done so far. It`s to bad Washington Republicans and Democrats have done nothing or very little,
    in the past or present to solve this problem, which shouldn`t be a problem to begin with.
    I would be made to believe 100 thousand of our Army could close the border at the drope of a hat. You warn the world, your ass will be shot
    if you try to breech our border and I would advertise keep out and we mean keep out. We have to pay our military, wheather they are deployed
    to our border or are setting at some base. The 14 to 20 million illigals
    are already here I would put a 10 year plan in effect and round them up and send them back where they came from. It`s to bad we would have to be this harsh, but if the US is going to be saved it has to be done.
    We have to quit letting people from 3rd world countries from comming here with their way of life that matches nothing we staned for. We have to clean our own back yard up before we go around telling the rest of the world how they should live. A good first start would be to vote Obama and his Marxist goons from office in 2012. The law should be changed,If your born here, you automatically are a US citizen. We are one of the few countries in the world that have a law
    like this. It should have been struck down years ago, it was meant for the slaves after the civil war in keeping them here and a step toward citzenship. WIA,don`t tell me to mind our own business,because you are our business, as we are your business. As I said before, we are partners and I don`t care whose feelings I hurt when it comes to
    what is good for the USA. I do know, illigal immagration does not work

  • BrotherPatriot

    I posted the comment above days ago & it’s still…”Your comment is awaiting moderation”…and I have no idea why.

    There has been many, many simular posts on the same topic that I speak of in the past…not sure why it’s being held back now.

    Perhaps it’s the 2 links in the same body of the message…so for future posters here…do not put 2 links in the same comment. Just reply to your own post w/the additional links. I have seen this problem before with multiple links in a comment on this site causing it to be held for moderation…but not for this long.

    Anyway…God Bless.

  • mary

    We have riots over sports results and immigration all the time here. Nothing new. If Carville can agree not to out scream anyone else in the room it’s called a compromise. That they could talk together shows hope.

  • BrotherPatriot

    Posted a comment above almost 2 weeks ago…”Your comment is awaiting moderation”…hrmmmph

    Happy 4th of July, AMERICA!

    God Bless & Thank you to all Veterans & those who paid the ultimate price for our Freedom!

    (Not sure how free we actually are though when the Nation & the media doesn’t address the very real problem of how things really are and the truth of our society. I speak of the Bilderberg/NWO/Skull & Bones/Masonic influences to our society.)

  • http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/165033/larrwayne_po.html LarrWayne

    Lala 72 is in lala land, obviously as confused as Lala wants others to be.

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