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Bipartisan Poll Shows Obama’s Strong Position Heading Into Election Cycle

May 19, 2011 by  

Obama holds advantage over leading GOP candidates heading into election periodThe next presidential election may be 18 months away, but the political world is abuzz as a diverse group of candidates on the Republican side is vying for the party’s nomination.

Yet, as the media’s full attention has been focused on those who are running, hinting at running or bowing out, President Barack Obama appears to have built up significant political capital, according to a survey jointly conducted last week by Republican and Democratic pollsters.

Politico.com revealed the results of a Battleground 2012 poll, which found that nearly 60 percent of respondents would either vote or consider voting for President Obama.

The current President also easily won when matched up against two of the leading contenders for the GOP nomination. Specifically, a total of 40 percent of the voters said they would vote for Obama if he ran against former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty (25 percent).

In a hypothetical race against former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, the President won by 40 to 27 percent.

On top of this, Obama’s approval ratings have soared in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s assassination. Politico‘s poll suggests the Commander in Chief enjoys 52 percent approval, although a Gallup poll puts his ratings at only 48 percent.

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  • Richard

    I certainly don’t agree on every view Ron Paul has but he is certainly the best candidate from any party. Too bad Republicans aren’t smart enough to support him.

    • Mick

      Richard,,
      Right at this moment the list of candidates is still confusing and I am not quite sure yet where to throw my support but one thing is more than sure, my support WILL NOT go to Obama or any other people belonging to the democratic party.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Mick… I sincerely hope the GOP gets their act together soon. Whoever gets the nomination will be better than Barry. I will vote for whoever is running against the current POTUS, but I would really like to feel good about my vote and not that I am just voting for the lesser of two evils!

        • Mick

          Robin…I totally agree !!
          This voting from the lesser of two evils is getting old and doesn’t help our country one bit…….

          • Nadzieja Batki

            We keep forgetting that the Republican party allows, permits,any one to claim to be a Republican and try to be elected. That is why we have RINOs who work hand and foot with the Democrats to the country’s detriment. Democrats weed out any one who disagrees with their platform so they don’t have any stealth DINOs.

          • bob wire

            You say that without even knowing the second evil. Seems it could be Rosemary child and be okay. LOL!

            I confess, ~ I’m more open minded.

            The GOP is in turmoil as the hyjackers attempt to overtake the hyjackers that was robbing the train robbers.

            How much clearer must it be?

            Disingenuous talk carries an expiration date attached.

            Pay now or pay later ~ but the debit will come due.

      • Wayne937

        I like Michele Bachman. She is a very smart woman. She is a tax litigation attorney and has at least ran a business. This is more than Obama can say. She appears to have her head on straight. She is one of the best that we have running at the current time. She is a Tea Party Conservative. and we Conservatives should be looking to support her.

        • bob wire

          I like her fire too! run her ! she’s a good choice and has earned the shot above all others in the line up. I hope her family is strong enough to take the punishment and victories both lager and small.

          • Kate8

            b w – Amazing, isn’t it. Dem candidates never have to worry about whether their families are strong enough to weather the media storm that will assault them.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            The way he talks, you’ld think BW approves of attacking the candidates families. He was probably one of them that helped spread the rumors about Palins daughter and the pro-athelete!!

          • bob wire

            One of you attempts to act naive and the other assumes far too much.

            Why can’t you people get real for a change? You come from every childish angle of attack your minds will permit.

            You both have but one single purpose, debase and discredit with anything the two of you can dream up.

            So what do I sound like? ~ I am a person that hates to see people fail and suffer for their good intentions and that’s what will happen to Bockmann if she runs.

            and Kate ~ no party affiliation is immune to these jaded attacks.

            You of all people should know that as you as guilt as any for such antics and theater. ~ so why bother at attempting to direct it at a single party or news affiliation as to imply the other innocent?

            Why the juvenile game? ~ Momma , Billy hit me! Mom, Billy is looking at me, he’s touching me! All the time giving little Billy the devil.

          • Kate8

            bw – Hit a nerve?

            The media makes a point of protecting the children of democrat candidates and politicians. Remember how they went after the Bush girls? And, as already mentioned, the Palin kids. When do you ever even hear about any democrat’s kids? And, of course, the Obama kids are totally off-limits.

            Grow up, Bob. What I said had nothing to do with you. Attack me and call me names if it makes you feel good, but I stand by what I said.

        • Christin

          Wayne937,
          I think you are right in your assessment of Michele Bachman. I like her, too, and she seems to have a ‘clue’ about what is going on…

          I also like Ron Paul and feel his vision is a good one for America.

          I don’t think we could go wrong with either one if TPTB will allow us to have our pick.

    • George Washington

      If I may please;
      American speaking to American, please I beg, look into Mr. Ron Paul’s issues and why he takes, as he always has, the positions he does.
      Mr. Ron Paul’s 2012 platform creates jobs! Strengthened dollar means increase in productivity do to the attractiveness of having “trust redeemable at any bank in the USA.” An increase in purchasing power due to a reregulation of gold to back our paper dollar, would cancel inflation almost immediately.
      Lower fuel prices, lower food prices, lower retail prices + strengthen dollar = more spending power per dollar!
      That “more spending power” goes right back into the economy!
      Imagine how the above could help Your Family in the next 4 years?
      Imagine how the above could help Your Country in the next 4 years?

      Please please please, give a serious look into what Mr. Paul’s platform represents.
      Constitutionally, legislatively, and morally, Ron Paul has no equal. His 22 year voting record speaks for itself.
      Please help give America back Her Constitution.
      Ron Paul for President in 2012.
      Thank You

  • Jovianus

    With the strongest potential GOP candidates deciding to sit this one out, the realization is sinking in. Obama is a popular leader. Romney will take the moderate middle GOP voter, there are two, maybe three, who will take the far right GOP voter. That’s it…and they’ll eat each other up in the debates as the positions will need to be solidified. Add on the GOP penchant these days for shooting themselves with the Silent Majority every chance they have (i.e. cutting Medicare to pieces) … and we have a 2012 recoming for President Obama.

    Here’s the final nail in the coffin. When everything is set as far as the field…the one question none of them want to take on will be “What would you have done different 2009- to the present as far as alternative solutions to the economy, defense and international affairs?”

    It’s no wonder the heavy hitters are staying on the sidelines.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Jovianus… The media is bought and paid for by Soros, who is pulling the puppet’s strings. If Barry were to be treated in the same manner that the GOP presidents have, he wouldn’t win any popularity contest. He would be expected to answer the tough questions and would come under the scrutiny of not only the press, but the voters.

      • Jovianus

        I know Robin…and the remaining gadzillionaires like the Koch Bros. are standing aside … keep beating the Soros issue if it makes you feel better. But reality is reality, even though you choose to ignore it.

        The fact remains…the GOP looks like it will split next year between a moderate middle candidate and a far right candidate. Who is left standing will be scarred and beaten. And the final nail will be having to answer the tough question everyone seems to avoid taking on…what would they have done different than what Obama has done? Plenty of bleacher criticism…but no alternative solutions or policies have been offered up…because there aren’t any which are sane and viable.

        The GOP will have one issue to campaign on…healthcare. And plenty of issues to avoid talking about…

        • BH

          There aren’t any positions that could have been taken other than the ones that Obama took? I beg to differ.

          The “quantitative easing” only helped the banks, not the people. It propped up the “too big to fail” that should have failed, and whose failure is essential to put the economy back on track.

          The bailout of GM was handled totally outside of the rule of law, putting the union’s interests ahead of the interests of the bondholders who legally come first. It should have gone to normal bankruptcy, with the pieces being sold off to highest bidders. We would have a stronger auto industry now if it had been handled in a legal manner rather than by an unconstitutional power grab by the executive branch.

          We need to disengage from foreign wars where the interests of the US are not clearly at stake.

          Ron Paul for President!

          • karolyn

            GM has paid back almost half of the bailout and is in the process of hiring 4000 workers and investing $17m, I believe, into some of its fcilities. Had they gone under, there would have been even more unemployed than there are already.

          • jibbs

            karolyn says:

            GM has paid back almost half of the bailout and is in the process of hiring 4000 workers and investing $17m, I believe, into some of its fcilities. Had they gone under, there would have been even more unemployed than there are already.
            **********************************************************************
            Sorry, you are wrong, where did you get that info.? They used bailout money, so they still owe all of it…try doing some homework before you spout off, AGIAN!! Just wait and see how many get laid-off when they open their new assembly plant in Mexico.

          • Mike in MI

            BH -
            Ditto, Amen. Ditto, Amen. Dittoes, Amen … right down the line.
            Thanks for standing out there in the sun and saying it…RIGHT!

          • Mike in MI

            Jibbs -
            Never fear whether those nit-wits will be able to weather the storm of emotions of betrayal and hair-pulling frustration.
            They’ll never be able to remember long enough to think that Obama’s hand-picked Gov. Motors board of directors and CEO preplanned to rape the share and bond-holders wholesale while they set up a Mid-Region Area (until the time – called united states) icon to recieve shipments from the production site in the southern area of the North American Region of the Unified World Authority (until the time – called Mexico).

          • karolyn

            Jibbs, It was all over the news last week about GM hiring 4000 new workers in this country.

          • murrietaguy

            not to mention the investors with 30 billion were told they had no control. Unions were given 60% control and Oboma fired the CEO

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Jovi… I never even heard of the Koch Brothers until 6 months ago. Soros has been around forever. And yes, I will continue to say that I believe he is responsible for pulling the puppet strings Barry has tied to his arms and legs. I also believe that the Dems and the GOP are so similar it’s hard to tell them apart.

          • Jovianus

            Which goes to show Robin, you aren’t as informed as should be. The moneys behind the conservative movement have been known and proclaimed for years, but ignored. And since FOX chooses not to mention it, most right wing folks think it’s a minor issue. Wake up. Soros is a red herring and not as influential as the right makes it out to be.

            Fact is..foreign and domestic fortunes are being funneled to the GOP because of the Citizens United decision. And there are no demands from the TP to have that disclosed…so the GOP can sluff it off as a side issue created by the Progressives and of no consequence. When y’all start asking questions of the GOP, then they can’t sluff it off. My opinion is a lot of eyes will be opened if you choose to want them opened.

            There is no issue other than healthcare for the GOP to run on. They won’t tackle the stimulus package. They won’t tackle the bank issue (which I feel Obama has let us down on), they can’t go and tell America we should have let GM go under costing hundreds of thousands of jobs, they can’t bring up energy, they can’t bring up taxes, they’re gonna get killed for opposing the oil subsidies being taken away … every issue which will be highlighted…the GOP can’t come back with alternative solutions which America won’t cringe and thank the gawds above the GOP wasn’t running the show.

            Why is the GOP known now as the Party of NO? Because they offered nothing up as an alternative and all they did was say “no”.

          • Dennis Patrick

            Some fun facts about the owners of the Republican Party:
            *Koch Industries was fined $35 million for an alleged 300 pipeline spills in six states from 1990 to 1997, adding up to 3 million gallons of oil. The US Government had originally proposed fining Koch $71 million to $214 million in penalties for violations of the Clean Water Act by those spills.

            *In March 1999, Koch Petroleum Group, a Koch Industries subsidiary, pled guilty to charges that it had negligently dumped hundreds of thousands of gallons of aviation fuel into wetlands near the Mississippi River from its refinery in Rosemount, Minnesota, and that it had also illegally dumped a million gallons of high-ammonia wastewater onto the ground and into the Mississippi River. Koch Petroleum paid the Dakota County Park System a $6 million fine and $2 million in remediation costs, and was ordered to serve three years of probation.

            *In 1999, a federal jury found that Koch Industries had stolen oil from government and American Indian lands, had lied about its purchases more than 24,000 times, and was fined $553,504.

            * In January 2000, a Koch Industries subsidiary, Koch Pipeline, agreed to a $35 million settlement with the U.S. Justice Department and the State of Texas. This settlement, including a $30 million civil fine, was incurred for the firm’s three hundred oil spills in Texas and five other states going back to 1990. The spills resulted in more than three million gallons of crude oil leaking into ponds, lakes, streams and coastal waters.

            * In 2001, the company reached two settlements with the government. In April, the company reached a $20 million settlement in exchange for admitting to covering up environmental violations at its refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas. That May, Koch Industries paid $25 million to the federal government to settle a federal lawsuit that found the company had improperly taken more oil than it had paid for from federal and Indian land.

            * In June 2003, the US Commerce Department fined Koch Industries subsidiary Flint Hill Resources a $200,000 civil penalty. The fine settled charges that the company exported crude petroleum from the US to Canada without proper US government authorization. The Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security said from July 1997 to March 1999, Koch Petroleum (later called Flint Hill Resources) committed 40 violations of Export Administration Regulations.

            * In 2006, Koch Industries’ subsidiary Flint Hill Resources was fined nearly $16,000 by the EPA for 10 separate violations of the Clean Air Act at its Alaska oil refinery facilities, and required to spend another $60,000 on safety equipment needed to help prevent future violations.

            * In 2007, Koch Nitrogen’s plant in Enid, Oklahoma, was listed as the third highest company releasing toxic chemicals in Oklahoma, according to the EPA, ranking behind Perma-Fix Environmental Services in Tulsa and Weyerhaeuser Co. in Valliant. The facility produces about 10% of the US national production of anhydrous ammonia, as well as urea and UAN.

            * In 2010, Koch Industries was ranked 10th on the list of top US corporate air polluters, the “Toxic 100 Air Polluters,” by the Political Economic Research Institute at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

            Since it is impossible to track, it is estimated that the Koch brothers have contributed at least ten times as much to political campaigns as George Soros. Some even double that number.

            The Koch brothers hate the earth and all of its inhabitants by knowingly pollute and poison. This is your republican party.

          • ggsully

            Jovianus, it is pretty obvious that you are some kind of left wing operative sent to spread misinformation and muddy the waters. Intelligent individuals see right through this dribble. The United case in no way allows foreign corporations to donate to candidates. I know, I know, say the lie often enough and all the stupid people will believe you. Will you explain to me how the current president will raise 1 billion for his campaign. Maybe he will up the 700 million he received in small donations through the internet that he did no have to real their sources. You could do this pretty easily with a few good computers, but of course you do not want to talk about that.

            As far as the GOP being know as the party of NO, that is only because the media fanned those flames and refused to discuss the alternatives the republicans where suggesting. Now you may say, well there is no record of these being discuss in the Senate or the House, but that is only because Pelosi and Reed blocked all efforts of the Republicans to bring any ideas to the floor. There where plenty of good ideas on how we should work to create jobs and the economy. The president and Democrats wanted no part of that because Obama had won.

          • jibbs

            Joviazz never give’s a link to where she gets her ill-gotten news. Never once, but she called me out several time’s, and when I gave the thr truth and links…she stays silent for several days, then spouts up again. Just another Robot Troll. What a joke….lol, hehehe

          • eddie47d

            Thanks Patrick. I hope Robin is paying just as much attention to the Koch facts as are put out on Mr Soros. The Koch’s are always breaking the rules to achieve their wealth and there is little that is “clean” about them.

          • Jovianus

            ggsully … first read the Citizens United case. Then go and read the disclosure requirements for the 501s. Then you can tell us if foreign corporations can donate to candidates here in the US.

            Thank you

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jovi,
            you and Patric both need to give some sites to back up your “facts” as eddie calls them!!

          • eddie47d

            Joe has never given a reference but is telling others to do so. LOL Do you even look anything up on the Internet Joe? Is there any sign of life in that noggin of yours? Present some facts from your perspective instead of bellyaching about others.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            Wassamatter? Denver winter freeze your brain last year?? I’ve posted quite a few sites, when I feel like it!! Hint, be careful what you talk to strangers about!!!

        • M Brees

          As usual, you make statements which are inaccurate at best! The GOP has offered quite a few alternatives to the flawed policies from the left, which always get ignored, intentionally put-off, intentionally not scheduled for discussion or vote. The left typically tries to label anybody who doesn’t share their views as an extremist or radical, as has been done with Ryan and his budget. Same with Angle in the 2010 election because of the mention for an option to be able to divert some part of SSI contributions to private investment rather than have all contributions be under Fed control, which has failed miserably! The left presents this as completely cutting up medicare, etc. or now it’s throwing Grandma off of the cliff. But no mention is made of this when they accuse the right of fear-mongering…hypocrites! And now we have Pelosi and Reid steering waivers to all of their cronies for the healthcare bill they rammed down everyone’s throat. If the plan was as good as they portrayed, no one should be exempt including the Prez, Congress and Senate.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          jovi,
          you make the big mistake of forgetting one group. The ones that have buyers remorse!! Believe me, there are MANY!!! I have talked to a great many that have come out and admitted they voted for Nobummer and will vote for their dog to avoid voting for him again!!

      • Dennis Patrick

        “If Barry were to be treated in the same manner that the GOP presidents have, he wouldn’t win any popularity contest.”

        Did I miss the demands for George W.’s birth certificate and school records? Didn’t Dan Rather get fired when he questioned President W’s “military” record? Did I miss the uproar over “Deferment Dick” Cheney’s FIVE military deferments to avoid – like Bill Clinton – the Vietnam War? Did I miss Ronald Reagan’s face pasted on monkeys and chimps? Did I miss Bill Clinton being called “Bill Blythe” (his birth name)? Did I miss the mocking of George W’s ivy league education? Did I miss the investigation of Daddy Bush’s extra-marital affair? Did I miss the investigation of George W’s SEC investigations in the 1980s? Did I miss the minute-by-minute detail of George W’s drunk driving arrest? Or his use of cocaine? Or his hosting of a male hustler at the White House? Or his ties to Jack Abramoff and Kenny-Boy Lay?

        Wake up!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          dennis P,
          yes, you must have missed the demand for Bush2s service records and the fact that he was wrongly accused of going awol and THAT is why Rather got fired and quite deservingly!! you must have missed the hitler posters with bush’s face on them, or the posters with his face behind the crosshairs!!! YOU need to do a little more paying attention!!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – Something that no one mentions in regard the the BC issue is that Bush, as nearly every pres. before him, had a known family history in America. If they weren’t pressed for their BC, and if, in fact, they hadn’t already produced it (which they may have at some point early on), it is because their lives are public record, and not in question.

            In Obama’s case, though, he’s sealed his history, which is highly in doubt. No one knows for sure where he was born, but we do know that he is of questionable parentage and there are a lot of questions he refuses to answer. Being that his life is mostly unknown, and his obvious intent to keep it hidden, it seems like a no-brainer that we would want him to show us who he is.

            All of O’s and his minions attempts to ridicule those who refuse to back down on the BC issue only show that they are willing to do anything to hide the truth. Of course we want proof. If this were a conservative pres., you can be sure the Left would not be as polite about it as the right has been. There would be rioting and mayhem.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            As I’ve said before, nobummer thinks he RULES the U S!!! That makes him think he’s above the rules!!!

      • eddie47d

        Th Koch’s (2 of them) have been around as long as Mr Soros and have an eerily similar history. Both are into oil and gas and have political clout. Soros had influence in Hungary and the Koch’s in Russia. To say Mr Soros has more control over the media than the Koch’s is naive at best and spread by Glenn Beck. I would say it is the opposite since the Koch’s are more behind the scenes in who they give to and control. Money talks and they both have lots of it.

    • http://personalliberty.com frank

      polls are skewed . I don’t no of anyone voting for the wanbabe dictator. the lame string left wing media is fanning this flame. get real anus and sarvis.

    • Wayne937

      Jovi, Obama won’t get voted back in as president. I think most of the American People are now tried of his rhetoric (hot air) do nothing president. The unemployment rate is at 9.0 percent, oil prices sky high, consumer goods prices skyrocketing, Obama is against drilling for oil here in our country, but is going to loan Brazil 2.5 million dollars, and telling Brazil that we will be their best customer. Since he is against nuclear, coal and oil the prices will surely have to rise. He has apologized to the Muslim Countries on how bad the US has been. If any person would want these conditions that Obama has set forth, then they are too stupid to be voting. I personally don’t like Obama for many, many reasons. If your a Muslim, or a Communist, then you will liove him like you. You are not going to change any Conservative minds here so you might as well give it a rest.

      • eddie47d

        At this present time Obama is neither a Muslim or a communist so your comments and others like it always get put into the junk drawer.Conservatives may love the name calling against Obama but the majority of voters don’t.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Any shepherds in this posting group? Is any of the behavior among the Liberals/Leftists similar to sheep?

          • 45caliber

            Nadzieja:

            Yes they are similar to sheep. And I’m not sure if anything is stupider than sheep. They would follow the leader off a cliff if he was to jump and they will certainly follow a Judas goat into the slaughter house without a thought.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            N B,
            eddie needs to watch his hero a little closer. Like today proving his statment that if an ill wind blew he would come down on the side of the muzzies. He said in a speech that Isreals borders should go back to 1967 positions!!! Isreal has said “what good does it do to deal with a population (Muslims) that questions your very right to exist?”

          • eddie47d

            What’s your Peace Plan for Israel Joe? Instead all we get is your criticizing gibberish! Why is Israel building homes in Palistine when it is illegal to do so? Something has to give between those two nemesis or are you hoping for another outbreak?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Gee eddie,
            Why do the palistinians mount rocket launchers on top of schools and then when the Israelis retaliate the missiles only after much deliberation, the palistinians file grievances with nato about them???? OH, but I know, that’s different!!

        • jibbs

          At this present time Obama is neither a Muslim or a communist so your comments and others like it always get put into the junk drawer.Conservatives may love the name calling against Obama but the majority of voters don’t.

          ********************************************************************** He claimed to be a muslim in his “own book”, and said if it came to war, he would side with the muslims.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jibbs,
            Read my post directly above yours. He proved your point!!!

        • combatvet

          So eddie just what is the impostor who has, according to his refusal to disgorge his records, no history whatsoever. I’ve seen pictures of the apologizing effeminate non entity taking his shoes off in a mosque reading for prayer, I’ve seen evidence of him attending an America hating pseudo church led by a total fraud. I have never seen the tele-prompter in chief in a church, period. Your BOY has taken the art of prevarication to levels never before thought possible, has surrounded himself with a cadre of the most virulent American hating sub-humans known and has been historically absent from the human race. One thing he has done well, he has taken racism to new heights and has done more harm to our Constitution , America’s economy and position in the world, than all the other presidents in American history. Get it through your IQ vacant mind this parasite is seen by the rest of the world as a total fraud and a laughing stock. But you blind American hating morons are so caught up in your handout mentality existence, that the death throws of our way of life are of no moment to you. I served America in war time and I will not sit by while the likes of you support the destruction of my nation, the Constitution I swore to defend and the future of my children. This nation is going to implode if things don’t change dramatically and you will be left huddled in some corner hoping the good guys don’t find you! Barry is a total fabrication, a fraud who can’t even pull off a fraudulent birth certificate better than a five year old with basic computer skills.

          There seem to be a couple of you commie American haters that like to post your crap on this Patriot site,
          I’m sure there are some commie sites out there that would just love your inane comments. Do us a favor and go play in traffic!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            combatvet,
            From one vet to another! AMEN BROTHER!!! Welcome home, my friend!

      • Kate8

        Wayne937 – O wouldn’t win in a fair election, but it’s been a long time since we’ve had one of those in Amerika.

      • Marty S.

        You mean 2.5 billion to Brazil

    • 45caliber

      Jovi:

      Oblama is only popular with people like you. I think I’d vote for Hillary before I would him – and I’m convinced she and Bill should be locked up for criminal actions. I will certainly vote for someone else than him come election time.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Poll numbers at this stage mean very little to the outcome of the next election. They do, however, point out that most of America agrees with the President’s policies, decisions, and leadership of our great country.

    • Bruce D.

      Most do not agree with Obama’s handling of the economy. You must have been looking at an MSNBC poll to think otherwise or some other poll that favors left wing radical ideas and polls mostly left wing radicals.

      • bob wire

        It’s not like he had a lot of help or a lot to work with ~ but that means little on the bottom line. When it comes to building a stone wall that’s imperious to ever changing conditions and refuses to move ~ used GOP contractors.

        • Bruce D.

          I see Obama is thowing a lot of money and power in the direction of GE, Soros, banks, Wall Street, and of course GM. The poor and the middle class are left to suffer with the hyper inflation in food, energy, commodities, and whatever else is on the way. Most likely the military contractors are getting richer also with Obama’s expansion of war into Libya.

          • karolyn

            There’s no such thing as “Obama’s expansion of war into Syria.”

          • Bruce D.

            No but he is showing an interest there also. It has cost us millions so far in Libya. Far more than we saved on the national debt compromise. Debt reduction is not possible with this President and never will be. It is time to stop nation building and both parties will end up giving millions to Libya if the Rebels win.

          • 45caliber

            Bruce:

            Sadly, I’m sure you are right. After all, we have to build up every nation on earth – except the USA of course.

        • eddie47d

          So Dan you were assuming that contractors were in Libya. I agree that we should get our military out of the Middle East. Since any military presence requires nation building. Now did you take on Bush when he said there would be no nation building with him as President? He expanded the wars and hired dubious contractors (Blackwater,Halliburton).I will be agitated if Obama expands our Afghan War into Pakistan and that wouldn’t bode well for his re-election. But then again Bush got re-elected by being a war President.

          • Bruce D.

            Let’s hope Obama does not get reelected as he is a war President also. We have been sending drones into Pakistan for quite a while and Pakistan is starting to threaten us. CIA operatives are in Libya and we have already sent bombers in there to start the war. I think the survalence and communications are being coordinated by the U.S. also. We will be rebuilding Iraq, Pasistan, Libya, and Afganistan or giving them aid until we are bankrupted no matter what party is in there.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            So that’s the reason Bush was reelected? And here all this time I thought it was because the Dems ran the wrong man against him.

        • 45caliber

          bob:

          He has more help than any other President has had with his 40 or so czars. In fact, I think he has too much help since he depends upon them to make all the decisions while he plays golf and enjoys his round-the-world tours.

          • bob wire

            Hmm? That’s nice. ~ how about a little nonpartisan support? ~ 247 pieces of legislation stalled in the senate over a two year period and record breaking GOP deployed filibuster does not sound like very much help to me.

          • eddie47d

            BW; Still no problems solved by the GOP but at least they are “somewhat” talking.

      • combatvet

        Don’t pay attention to the fake Doc, he is one of the shill posters that populate real American blogs. His girlfriend Barry is a big joke to the rest of the world who know he is a total fraud. My business contacts in Europe, Asia and South America have been telling me even prior to the election that he was not eligible and was a puppet groomed to bring America to it’s knees. If you look at history, he is the most inexperienced, non-entity to ever occupy the Oval Office. His entire existence is a fabrication wrought with lies that make Clinton seem like honest Abe. The man is hated by anybody not in a communist union, on the government dole, part of our socialistic education system or hypnotized by the communist main stream media.

        The majority of America is patriotic and conservative by a margin of more than 2 to 1 and people are waking up by the millions to this coup foisted upon a sleeping nation, an election populated with fraud that would make Venezuela blush. How many fraudulent birth certificates do we have to endure before we haul the parasite out of the White House in chains. Never before in American history has a candidate not been required to disgorged his records for scrutiny to prove eligibility. It is a requirement to be on the ballot and the candidate must be fully vetted by each party chairman! When was the last time in American history that a person was elected to the highest office with no traceable background, hidden by a self-imposed executive order!

    • http://burkecomputers.blogspot.com/ DanB

      And that is what scares me. The American people are more interested in doing something than taking a moment to ask if they are doing the right thing. We voted a man as President because of the color of his skin, instead of his policies. We voted a previous man into President because he “looked” better than his rivals. America is doomed. We have learned nothing from history (and now we refuse to teach “ancient” history because it reveals what our future will be–and you would have a lot harder time selling a bright future if you understood that this has all been done in the past and the results have almost always been gruesome).

      • BigBadJohn

        Obama was not elected because of the color of his skin. He was voted in because he promised change, which never happened.

        To an independent Obama looks an awful lot like Bush….

        • Wayne937

          BigBadJohn, I disagree with you. Oh! he changed it alright, but in the opposite direction than what we wanted, or needed. He said he would fundamentally change our nation. We don’t need our nation changed fundamentally. For some reason people refused to hear what this idiot really said. We need our fundalmental principles left alone. What this country needs is a president that will work for the entire country, not just for his friends. We need honesty and transparency from our president. We do not have that now.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            This is a good post. The reality is that people hear but do not listen to what politicians say. Obama promised change, but what is the change he is actually delivering? People believed him because they thought he meant the same thing they meant. He uses language to disguise, to manipulate,to coerce,to con.

          • eddie47d

            Wayne; Were you describing Obama or Bush in not representing all the American people? I think it was “president” Cheney who had more influence with his friends and ignored the rest of us. Now that was a con game if I ever seen one.

          • BigBadJohn

            Wayne
            What this country needs is a president that will work for the entire country, not just for his friends.
            *********
            So what do you propose another GOP president that bends over backwards for HIS FRIENDS?

            BOTH parties are OWNED by the people that helped them get elected.

            It is commonly called – between a rock and a hard place.

        • momplayer

          I have to agree.obama did win because he promised change and he fullfilled that promise. We just didn’t relize his promised change was for the worse.

          • Mick

            Good call momplayer ,,,,
            I always said to many from the beginning that they better watch out to what change obama was referring to, common sense people listened and too many others just jumped into the pool of malarkey without giving it a second thought …

        • Jovianus

          OK…let’s look at this. First off, during his campaign, if you listened to what Obama was saying…not the great speeches…but the solid content…as I pointed out to many…he wasn’t a liberal. He stated all during his campaign platforms and positions which were Moderate to conservative Moderate.

          As to change….look atn what he has accompished which has been so quiet and drama free as to be overlooked. Change is happening. What needs to be done is more change as everyone here agrees. On a few points, progressives, moderates and conservatives alike agree. Get the money out of influencing political policy, minimize the influence of special interest groups, and take care of the Middle Class/Small Businesses.

          Right now…none of the above is being discussed or worked on. Every proposal put forth hammers the Middle Class and actual small business. No one gets a break unless the wealthy and Big Corporate gets their cut first.

          • Push comes to shove

            For once i agree with on something except for one crucial point, Obama is just like all the others. He talked big about the change in Washington (i.e. getting the special interests out), but what has happened is the special interests are bigger than ever since Obama was elected. Unions are getting more favor, GE is getting more favor, ETC.

          • Cawmun Cents

            How will this mess we are in get fixed if we dont all take a lil’ hammerin’?The wealthy are the ones who provide jobs through mega-corporations.The middle class create jobs through entrepeneurship.But for those small business men to be supplied with materials they have to deal with mega-corporations.In the mean time to fund massive progams which all but kil a small businessmans opportunity to keep forging on,now you are going to ensure that the mega-corporations that many rely on for materials are now taxed more heavily?This will increase the costs of doing business for the small guy.CEO’s andother high paid employees of corporations,make there dollars based on performance.A reduction in pay may well cause a reduction in performance.Which again hits the small guy who has an inferior product now,and still pays more for it because of inflation.If the programs which taxes are collected to support were run like corporations the government would get fired every time.They couldnt keep a job if their lives would depend on it.Why arent we demanding that our tax dollars are spent at such strict standards and guidelines as corporations use?If we did then many of these programs would be dissolved and peter out on their own discrepancies.They would operate the same as a business,and epic fail with no bail out is part of the picture.Either run the program right(in the black)or die like any other business that cant pay their debts.But the exact opposite is true,the worse a government offender is,the more money they throw at it.That has to stop effective immediately.

        • 45caliber

          BBJ:

          He didn’t provide the change? Odd. I’ve been getting a lot of change lately. No dollars, just change. Are you sure you haven’t seen any change?

    • http://Verizon Bud G.

      Doc: Most agree with the president’s policies? Where are you receiving your information? His record is a disgrace and the most incompetent president we have had in our history.

      The majority of Americans disapprove of the Health Care Bill with 26 states filing a lawsuit, many states filing lawsuits over his immigration policies, their venture into Cap and trade a big bust; bailing out GM and giving unions control and then the selling of GM at a 11 billion dollars loss on our dime. Forcing people to buy GE’s crappy light bulb,what we should eat and the list goes on and on.

      Don’t be surprised when all of a sudden the man you think has done such a great job drops out of contention when someone reveals something he doesn’t want to get out. I am not going to tell you what it is but it will force him to either resign or be impeached.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        That is a possibility, but the Democrats may brazen it out and give him a pass and keep him.
        In this fight the Tea Party and Republicans have to be squeeky clean. The media loves searching out dirt and handing it to the Democrats to smear the campainers.

        • eddie47d

          N.B. Good luck in trying to get the Republicans to be squeaky clean. They have plenty of folks in the media and an assortment of “spies” trying to take down the Democratic Party.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            The real problem is that neither party is squeeky clean.

      • Wayne937

        Bud, you have to over look Doc for he knows not what he is saying.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      All this tells me, is that we have a dumb bunch of human sheep who will follow their false shepherd to the country’s destruction.

      • Dennis Patrick

        Did I miss it? Did Sarah Palin decide to run for President?

        • 45caliber

          Naw. We already have the worst of them in office.

    • Don

      Doc, you might want to change that to : Our ” ONCE ” great country, with the trash we have in the WH now days !!

    • jibbs

      Is that why his numbers “tanked” again?

      • Carlucci

        And speaking of Ovomit’s numbers, this just landed in my email. If the OBL story is really true, this explanation sounds much more plausible than the bullshit story the white house and lame stream media came up with:

        http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1106.html

        BTW – did anyone catch the Freudian slip by the narrator?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Doc,
      I got a call from a poll today and they asked me the same question about seven different ways trying to get the answer they wanted!! I finally told them if they couldn’t accept the answers to the questions they got to stop asking the same damn question!!! when she started to ask again I hung up on her!!

  • Bruce D.

    The list of GOP canidates seem very dismal at this time. However as time goes on the canidate left standing will get better numbers in the polls. A lot of people do not follow politics closely and Obama is still the choice of the main stream media which most watch if at all. Newt should just drop out after his bizzare agreement with the individual mandate and critism of Paul Ryan. I do not know how he thought he could say something like that and run on a Republican ticket. Many in the 90s said Newt betrayed the Conservative movement. I just do not see how anyone can trust him now.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Bruce D…. Newt is toast. He shot himself in the foot. He should save himself the trouble of trying to campaign and save the money it cost to campaign. Or better yet, see who does get the nomination and donate to that person.

      • Kate8

        Newt is just another of the globalist elite club.

        It looks to me like he took a stab at trying to steer conservatives toward accepting O’care, only we aren’t as easily swayed by politicians as they hoped we’d be.

        What they don’t realize is that conservatives don’t look to politicians for guidance (to tell us what to think) like dems do. We know what we think and we know what we want our elected officals to do: REPRESENT US, not steer us.

        • jibbs

          lobama made over $1.7 million last year, did he poni up any extra tax money? I wonder if he included the use of OUR airplane and his wifes shopping spree’s we pay for, plus the greens fee’s ??? Hmm, what about his free healthcare WE pay for and the Free cars and body guards WE pay for.
          Thats good work, if you can get it.

          • Kate8

            jibbs – Especially when all he has to do is stand in front of a camera and read once in awhile.

            I wonder if he’s still eating his $1,000 steaks from Japan. They must be glowing in the dark these days. But then, he can afford to eat the very BEST of organic food that’s grown in the cleaner places. You know, the stuff they are outlawing for us common folk, and making even the altered stuff too expensive for many.

            Sweet deal. He be livin’ large.

          • Jovianus

            Well..according to many on this board, since he made all that money, you shouldn’t be envious if his tax burden was low and he could afford those items. He’s making jobs y’know … Or is it only wealthy GOPers who should receive those special tax brackets carved out for the wealthy?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jovi,
            HE was making jobs?!?!?!?!?! guess you didn’t hear, unemployment went UP half a point!!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – He may create a few government jobs, but what we need is private sector business. Of course, that is what he doesn’t want.

            I read again last week that they are trying to pass a law that you have to have a government permit to work in the private sector.

  • BigBadJohn

    These are the exact results that Obama was hoping for when he pulled the trigger on OBL.
    I also just read that he started a campaign to make fun of the birthers.

    I was a registered libertarian, but did not agree with their whole platform, parts yes, but some of it was just too far out. Ron Paul looks like the best candidate, but I still have serious reservations about the libertarians.

    Next election is going to be interesting, if the economy improves you may see another flip in the house.

    WE NEED A GOOD THIRD PARTY!!!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Who needs a campaign to make fun of the birthers? They are a joke ready to be told.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Doc… A joke? Really? That’s what the liberals think about the Tea Party members, too. I think they are just a little slow to figure it out…

        • Jovianus

          Hey..I’m all for the TP. y’all keep running the Ensigns, the “I am not a witch” O’Donnells, the snake worshipping Palins, the waked out Bachmans, the “john macCain doesn’t know anything about torture’ Santorums, or “the comments were not meant to be factual” Kyls.

          You’ll guarantee a strong progressive Moderate operation and a minimization of the wealthy/Corporate interest GOP

          • jibbs

            Atleast their “legal” and not illegal. Once agian no link to the truth.

          • Jovianus

            What do you want a link to Jibbs? Anything of what I wrote requires a link? Are you that far removed from facts?

          • combatvet

            Hey jovanus,

            Your presence here as a serial Barry butt buddy is not welcomed. Crawl back under your rock and stay there. We really don’t appreciate your attempt to reshape the truth to fit your hate for America. Barry is a fraud, period. He may very well be the result of a failed laboratory experiment, hence the lack of history. No wonder he is so virulently pro-abortion and a huge fan of planned parenthood, he’s jealous of the normal birth process.

            I’ve got a great idea, we should round up anti-Americans like yourself, send you over to the big sandlot armed with sling shots and bring our real American patriots home to address the real war on our borders. That way we take care of two problems in one fell swoop. I heard the muslims are looking for more Americans to torture and wouldn’t want it to be my brothers in arms!

      • Wayne937

        You are the joke, Doc Sarvis.

        • Bruce D.

          Would Jovianus be considered a joke also? I though about responding to his comment above as I disagree with it but thought-what’s the point.

          • Jovianus

            Bruce:

            What did I write that was in error?

          • Bruce D.

            Both Palin and Bachman are great Conservative woman. You may not like them but a lot of us out here feel ‘what are you thinking of with Nanct Pelosi’.

          • Wayne937

            Your right, Bruce D. I wasn’t thinking too clearly, or I would have ignored his post. I suppose there is not any reason to try to engage in a dialogue with an Obama follower. All you get is more crap, crap, crap.

          • Jovianus

            LOL…you assumed I am a supporter of Pelosi. Not even close. Fact is, I admire the way Obama slowly cut her throat and she’s now out of any say in the power circles.

            If you’ll think about it…she wasn’t a supporter during his campaign, was silent during the general..and during the past two years did not stand shoulder to shoulder fighting for his agenda except when it suited her power interests (power interests…not supporter or donor interest. Big difference).

            Nice try. Care to try again?

          • Bruce D.

            Pelosi has lost her power to do Obama’s dirty work. That is the only thing that has pushed her into the background. Their agendas are not different like you suggest. You are just saying whatever you need to say because you carry Obama’s water. You want to make him and yourself appear

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jovi,
            You say P-lousey didn’t support Nobummer during the campaign?!?!? Hell, BOY get the crap from between your ears! Even ‘sayitain’tso” Joe Biden said he wasn’t qualified!!!! Very few of the current crop supported him from the start!!

        • eddie47d

          Bruce; Presidents and potential candidate insert foot in mouth on a regular basis. Some comments are only a slip of the tongue and we get a good laugh. What did you think of Rick Santorum’s comment about “John McCain not knowing anything about torture”. That is common knowledge about Johns life so that was no slip.

          • Bruce D.

            I think John McCain is sensitive to torture because he was tortured and broke under the pressure so he knows it does work but does not want to admit it to himself or anyone else. I am not a fan of San. but McCain cannot be objective about the subject. I would break under torture also so I am not being critical of that. I do not endorse torture but it should be left open as an option that only the President has. There may be a time when lives are at stake and you can’t wait 6 months for an answer.

          • Jovianus

            Bruce….that’s the issue with “confessions’ garnered thorugh torture. You can make anyone say anything you wat…and they’ll tll you anything that will make it stop. It’s not trustworthy at all and many times is a waste of time and of an asset.

            In the meantime, the guy who was put through it…if he was innocent, and wasn’t an enemy…you just guaranteed an enemy because you made him/her into one.

            but then…we should lower our standards and become as a Third World country..or maybe like the Soviets of years past. They had show trials…maybe we should have them as well since it would appease many on the right (I guess)

          • Bruce D.

            That is the point of torture Jovianus in case you haven’t noticed. You can make anyone say anything you want them to. I understand the political talking points on the issue as does everyone else on this site as they have been rehashed enough.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jovi,
            I hope you get taken prisoner by radical Muslims. When you do, I hope they capture one of them that knows where you are being held. I personally will pay for fine meals and drink for him and demand that they NOT use anything that even resembles torture on him!!! You would be praying the very whole time that they would to try and release you!!! You would walk into the interrogation room that THEY use DEMANDING to tell them anything they wanted to know, you WUSS!!!!

        • Kate8

          Anyone who thinks rationally and just wants the TRUTH, liberals call a joke.

          One has to plug into the herd mentality and NEVER question the status quo to be normal. One must think the way they are TOLD to think (by the media), like good little mindless lemmings. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

          Thank God our founders weren’t like that. They’d have been all over this BC issue and would have thrown the #$%&* out before he got this far. They understood creeping tyranny, and they warned us about it.

          Questioning the obvious is the patriotic thing to do, so anyone who wants to hide and distort the truth does everything possible to discredit and marginalize those who demand it. If everything was above board, as dems would have us believe, O would have just opened his records from the start and avoided all the divisiveness. It is more than glaringly apparent that he has plenty to hide, and is enjoying taunting Constitutional Americans.

          It is people like you, Doc et al, who are guilty of treason. You’ve placed your loyalties to a treasonous party over your nation.

          Shame on you. But you WILL pay, sooner than later, right along with those of us you et al have sold down the river.

          • BigBadJohn

            Kate
            Change your first sentence to :

            “Anyone who thinks rationally and just wants the TRUTH, conservatives call a joke.”

            And guess what – it rings just as true……

          • combatvet

            Kate8,

            Very well said but don’t despair there are close to 100 million of us who will support and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic, including a majority of the active military.

            The liberal are cowards and will scamper down their holes when the fan meets the fecal matter. Ask Saddam how well that worked for him. This class of sub-humans, that attempt to populate these patriotic blogs with their disinformation are cowards, the lowest form of life.

            Remember their were traitors in the colonies during the revolutionary war. They were ferreted out, dealt with and we won our independence from the British in spite of them. Traitors are cowards, subverters of the Constitution are traitors. They are the termites of our society that require pest control while they eat away at the foundation of our country. Our cause is just, we outnumber them by a huge margin and we will defeat the sellouts. Jefferson commented that “the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

          • Kate8

            Thanks, combatvet. I sincerely hope you are right.

            It only takes a few of truly dedicated folks:

            http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin649.htm

      • jibbs

        So is the jackass in the whitehouse

      • 45caliber

        Doc:

        Actually that’s what the Dems would like everyone to believe. Just like they try to insist that if anyone says anything bad about Oblama they can’t get elected. As if there were any other way to get elected.

      • jibbs

        Jovi, I asked for the truth, not facts.

    • Mick

      BigBadJohn says:
      May 19, 2011 at 7:47 am

      WE NEED A GOOD THIRD PARTY!!!!

      ********************************
      We need a party composed of people with strong moral values and the more I look around the more difficult it will be to find such animal.
      We’re in for a rough ride…….

      • BigBadJohn

        I AGREE, both parties have sold out to their special interests.

        We need someone who is going to the right thing for our country for a change!

        • Mick

          BigBadJohn

          What we need is our society to wake up and realize that America is in a world of hurt and we better get together to help heal it……..

        • Wayne937

          We need to get rid of those special interest groups in Congress. This is the case where the wheel that squeaks the loudest, gets the most grease. The other are left to pick up the tab.

          • Mick

            Without a doubt Wayne, without a doubt….

      • Nadzieja Batki

        We could save ourselves a rough ride if we stop electing RINOs. Because someone looks and sounds good, does not make them good.
        We have 300 million plus people and we can’t seem to find a statesman, an honorable man.
        Obama got the old and young womens vote because they call him handsome. Any woman who dislikes his looks is in the minority.

        • Wayne937

          I agree, Nadzieja. The RINO’s are just as bad as the worst Democrats. I believe these newer Democrats are even worse than their older counterparts. Todays Democrats are more like the Communist and Socialist in Russia and China. They are not believeable and only work for their own needs, not the needs of the country. They are very selfish.

          • eddie47d

            We could say the same about most Republicans these days and say they are more like the Chinese capitalists. No standards,no regulations, anything goes policies.

          • Bruce D.

            The Chinese do have some standards as they shot to death the person responsible for the poison in dog food. They said it harmed the image of China.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            BruceD,
            Yeah, well don’t buy any watermellons from China!!! Did you see where they used so much growth hormone on them that the mellons were splitting in the field, on the vine??? now we not only have to worry about antibiotics in meat, we have to worry about growth hormones in mellons!!!! They’re gonna kill all of us yet!!!

          • Bruce D.

            I did see that on TV Joe. The Chinese have also put milimine in powered milk that caused severe sickness in children in some Asian countries. Buy at your own risk. Chinese were selling cheap cellphones all over Asia that did not last more than a few months. Who knows what else they are pushing off onto people.

        • Kate8

          Nadzieja – Not all conservatives start out as RINOs. It seems that some of them are sincere about doing the right thing.

          It’s just that, once they are elected, they are paid a “visit”, are told how the world works, and they begin to, suddenly, see things differently.

          That should be readily apparent from the last election.

          • 45caliber

            They get paid a visit by the RINOs now in power and are told that if they really want to get anything done they better play along or else. That’s one reason I like Ron Paul as my Congressman. He won’t play along. And because he won’t play along, the RINOs want him out of office. They go after him harder at election time than the Dems do.

        • 45caliber

          Nadzieja:

          He is good looking to most women? You just ruined my belief in womanhood. I will admit that I’m no longer the best looking in the world and don’t expect women to get excited about me but there are a lot of better looking men in the world than him – I thought!

          • Carlucci

            Ovomit is not good looking to me -! Not even remotely. I think he looks like a sock monkey. As a matter of fact, I have two sock monkey Christmas ornaments that I call “Obama and Michelle”.

            Actually, that’s an insult to sock monkeys…

          • Kate8

            Carlucci – :)

      • Bitter Libertarian

        That Party is there, it just needs support. Cant get someone elected if the party has no support financially. Cant Imagine why Corporate America, media and Business back the RNC & DNC….Guaranteed profits over the last 40 years..worked like a charm too.

        Big Business wont supprt any party that jeopardizes their position. Figure it out yet? Big media wont support any party that they cant get a “return” on. That leaves us..the people to do the real work.

        Continue to ride those 2 same old Buses that never get you where you really deserve to go, and wont change their route. Its your Choice to get off its your FAULT if you dont and you expect a different stop.

  • Raggs

    I DO NOT believe the polls!!!! PERIOD!!!!

    The media will say and do anything to make it look as if obama is in the lead regardless of any current world events.. Can’t trust them..

    The media sugarcoating a turd!!!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If the media is leftist and it is, they are going to side with their own kind. That is a given.

    • Carlucci

      “the media is sugar coating a turd”…that is an excellent analogy, Raggs. I’m going to share it with my email list, because it explains to a T all of the hype about Ovomit winning the next election from the lame stream media.

      • eddie47d

        You 3 stooges are so funny. Not!But keep up the good work in assuring that Obama gets reelected.Your despicable comedy show may soon (2012) be the tears of the clowns.

        • Kate8

          eddie – do you and your friends work side by side, divided into little cubicles, or do a couple of you just keep rotating the names you post under?

          • eddie47d

            You’re the one who likes to spread rumors so believe what you want. LOL

          • Carlucci

            Kate8 – probably both – the sign on the door says “Romper Room”.

            BTW – I used a little TSP (1 teaspoon) added to the dishwasher soap, (I also use Lemishine) in the dishwasher. Dishes, utensils and glassware all came out sparkling clean and spotless. And I absolutely love how it cleans the washable clothing, sheets, towels, etc. Great stuff!

          • Kate8

            Carlucci – I got some and have been adding it to my laundry.

            Thanks for the other tips!

            One funny thing. When I went to buy the TSP, right next to it was TSP-PF (phosphate free!) How do you get phosphate-free phosphate?

            Needless to say, I got the real stuff.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            Actually, they all sit in each others laps!!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – Thanks. I got a good laugh out of that visual.

        • Carlucci

          It sounds more and more like the real stooge is Eddie47d, and those of his ilk.

          • eddie47d

            Is that your best Carlucci?… and chill out Caliber.

        • 45caliber

          eddie:

          The perfect example of what I’ve been saying about the leftists.

          “If you say anything bad about my man, your man won’t get elected!” HA!!!!

          • Carlucci

            No, it’s not my “best” Eddie47d. Good manners and upbringing keep me from bringing it…

          • http://?? Joe H.

            That’s our Carlucci! A lady at all times!!!

    • bob wire

      “I DO NOT believe the polls!!!! PERIOD!!!!”

      with a recorded polling of 80% of the American people wanting to stick “Ryan plan” up Ryan’s assets, I understand your position.

      let’s face it ~ you don’t wish to believe anything that interferes with your views of the world, how things should be and how you presently relate to the world.

      When we don’t want the government between us and our doctor ~ but! ~ when it comes to women’s wellness and child bearing, we want the government between us and our doctors.

      I get it!

      When we want small government accept for when we want bigger more meddling government.

      I see!

  • Iris

    These polls are worthless at this point. The Republicans have at least 6 viable candidates to choose from and therefore there are not lined up at this time behind one Republican candidate. It is silly! Once the Republican candidate is actually picked, THEN the polls will be indicative…depending on HOW the poll is taken!

    Obama and gang (this includes most pollsters) are now and always have been using psychological tactics. It will not stop. DO NOT FALL FOR IT!

    • Wayne937

      I am so desperate to get rid of Obama I would vote for old Shep if the Repuiblicans would run him.

    • Bruce D.

      Dems do use a lot of psycholgical tactics Iris. If they didn’t only 25% of the population would vote for them.

    • 45caliber

      I really wonder what the polls would say if they asked the voters whether they would vote for Hillary over Oblama …

  • LibRep

    I’m all for Ron Paul and his “legalize the Constitution” message. Even though he has great ideas, he’s going to need the help of Congress to push through a smaller government agenda. A lot of the programs will not end overnight. What it would take is for the American People to actually pay attention, watch what he’s trying to do as President and get stymied by Congress at each and every turn for them/ us to elect representatives that share his views.

    With so many politicians deeply entrenched in the beltway status quo, he’s going to have a hard uphill battle to fight.

  • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

    HERMAN CAIN

    • Bruce D.

      RandyH, Herman Cain is the only one out there I like. That is a long shot but it would be good for the country to have him in the debates.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        he is an AGENT of the Non-Federal Non-reserve. he WORKED for the criminal cartel thats currently destroying the USA and he will not order an audit!

        • Kate8

          B L – I appears that Cain is just another manufactured political product, put together and given the right words to appeal to the “opposition”, and painted black to make him more PC for the current election trends.

          The only thing he’d possibly do different is come up with a BC.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            I agree Kate, the establishment will stop at NOTHING to get their man in, and they have an assortment of TRAITORS willing to further their adjenda.

          • Bruce D.

            Herman Caine is a radio talk show host. He tells people day in and day out who he is. No one else is even talking a good game.

  • Dan az

    The fact that the rep party is ignoring Ron Paul should turn on the lights.His only fault that I can find is that he will never bend to the pressure of the far left and the status quoe.He cant be bought off by the organ grinder,he comes with no strings attached.Some here think that because he believes that guvment should not be telling people what they put into there bodies that it should be left to them that he is for drug abuse.I see it as freedom of choice,leave it to the states to mandate not the guvmnt.He is the only one out there that is for smaller guvmnt and eliminating the IRS for a flat tax and eliminating the federal reserve which is destroying this country with fiat paper.Just because the GOP dosen’t want him should be a clue to what they want more of the same.Is this what we want?Would it help if he was black?Come on people look seriously into what he stands for rather than be told what to think and to vote for by the very people that you despise other wise we will never change things back to the way it should be and they will have completed there mission.

    • Carlucci

      Amen, Dan az. The biggest problem is that Americans won’t wake up and realize that they keep voting for the same old status quo big government politicos (i.e., wolves in sheeps clothing), and then cannot understand why nothing changes and gets worse. These are the same idiot people who tell me that Ron Paul can’t win because he is a “dark horse”.

      • 45caliber

        My wife worked as a vote counter several years ago and a friend is now in charge locally. They both tell me that the number of people who will vote for someone “because I’d lose my vote if I vote for the other guy” is amazing. One told my wife, “I really like the other guy best but I’d lose my vote if I voted for him since the press says this guy will win instead.”

        • Wayne937

          This type of people are too damn dumb to vote. Why don’t they just stay home. and let more qualified people vote for them. You would be surprised at how many people that still can’t read ,and write, and these people are voting because some one tells them they should.

          • 45caliber

            Wayne: Unfortnately, they are also telling them who to vote for.

    • Bruce D.

      Dan az, I like Ron Paul. Realize being a Conservative and being a Libertarian are two very different things. If Ron Paul ran on the Libertarian ticket he would get the nod for sure. He has no chance of winning the Republican nomination. He will only be there to offer the Libertarian viewpoint which needs more exposure and has limited appeal despite being around a long time. Libertarians alienate most Conservatives on social issues and alienate them even more when they try to discuss social issues. Liberals like Libertarians on the social issues but alienate them on fiscal responsibility.

      • Kate8

        If Ron Paul is as authentic as we are led to believe, and he were able to manage to get elected, do you really think he’d be able to stand up to the NWO? They do play hardball.

        They’ve shown what they do to presidents (and anyone else) who bucks the program.

        • Dan az

          Kate and Bruce
          Though I agree with your points what else is there?The NWO has us by the short ones and the only thing that I see out there is some one that has been trying to take them down for 30 yrs is Ron Paul.I agree he is taking a risk like JFK but if you give in to the threat than we will never get out of this one.Intimidation from the elitist can only continue if we bow our heads and except it,we need to take a stand and if not now then when?
          The only thing that I see is that if we don’t get a true constitutional conservative in this time and flush the rhino’s out of there well worn seats we don’t stand a chance of ever making it,Not now nor later.
          I agree that he should run on the ticket as a libertarian not the republican ticket.We need a third party and if the NWO gang gets there way they will be putting their own in that place.One thing for sure is it cant be any worse thaen what we have now!

          • Kate8

            Dan az – I hear you. The thing is, the thugocracy is so deeply entrenched now, and so powerful, that it’s going to take a lot more than a good POTUS to make a difference. We need THROW OUT THE LOT OF THEM and start over.

            However, while that is a great idea, I’m not sure how plausible it is. What we need is some new ideas, and new ways of thinking. We can’t fight them while we play their game by their own rules. We need a new game and rules of our own. And we need a way to circumvent the media stranglehold on information.

            I don’t know how. Maybe if we all really pray for help someone will come up with things we’ve not thought of yet.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            Thats for sure!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az & Kate8,
            At the very least, we need to stack both houses with good sound conservatives to tie Nobummers hands! now, if we can stack ‘em and get R. Paul in as well? GREAT!!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – Good idea. You know where to find any? You running?

            I’m pretty tough, but I’d never be able to stand up to the tactics used today.

  • s c

    Strong position my aching asterisk! Dream on, you back-stabbing, power-mad “progressives.” You’re flushing America down the nearest toilet so you can massage your generational guilt. We’ll be lucky if we don’t see a civil war as long as Herr Obummer is in the Washington area.
    There has never been a man-made utopia on this planet. There will NEVER be one. Be gone!

    • 45caliber

      I totally agree.

  • chuckb

    the republicans don’t need a candidate prescribed by the republican hierarchy, if karl rove and media people like charles krauthammer endorse a candidate i’ll not accept their choice. we need someone new without political handcuffs.
    so far the republican field is just a bunch of losers. the rep. hierarchy is trying their best to push romney, he will never get elected to the presidency. rick perry and palin are the only two out there that can beat barry.
    i’m tired of hearing the same old rhetoric batty can’t be beat, please tell me what this clown has done other than sink this nation in debt and turn the middle east over to the muslim brotherhood.
    he surely will win if we run people like romney, pawlenty, daniels or gingrich, we might as well join the democratic party.

    • Kate8

      chuckb – Hey, that’s not a bad idea. Liberals have been infiltrating the Republican party for years, running on R tickets to get elected in R districts.

      It’ time to return the favor. The best way to conquer is from within.

  • jopa

    It was good to get Osama Bin Laden however I believe the Start treaty was even a larger victory on the war on terror.Obama and the Russians dismantling nukes and being aware as to the disposition of nuclear material is a major win for the world.Less chance for a dirty bomb which would be a more likely scenario for terrorists.

    • Wayne937

      Yea, the Iranians are building theirs up, and we are tearing ours down. Are the Iranian people Muslims? Isn’t Obama a Muslim? Huh???? I don’t like this one bit.

      • eddie47d

        Wayne; Your voice can’t be trusted for you only throw firebombs and nonsense. Iran has no Nuclear weapons and Obama is not a Muslim. You loose on both counts.

        • Carlucci

          And you can’t even spell “lose”.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            “Iran has no nukes and Nobummer is not a muslim”
            //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
            Sure eddie and Santa is in love with the easter bunny, and Elvis is alive and had a sex change!!!!

        • 45caliber

          eddie:

          Really? Can you prove that? Either case?

          • eddie47d

            Can You?

          • 45caliber

            Not yet. But I’m confident someone will sooner or later.

        • Wayne937

          I did’t say that they currently had them, but they sure as heck have the knowledge, and are working on building them as we tear ours down. You must have not been watching the right news Eddie. What about Pakistan and China? What about North Korea? If you deny these areas have the nuclear weapons then we will know your nuts. I have not heard of them tearing theirs down. Your in the dark Eddie when you say Obama is not a Muslim… The evidence is there, Eddie, but you have to take your blinders off in order to see it.

          • Jovianus

            Actually Wayne..reports indicate that somehow Iran’s computer systems working on the centrifuges caught a cold…a virsu so to speak…and crashed. From what i read, it set them back several years and they have to start back from the ebginning. Darn…lucky for us someone stuck a viral code in there eh? Wonder who could have done that ….

    • DanB

      My understanding of the START treaty must be misinformed. The only side that agreed to disarm was the US. The other side agreed to “update” their nuclear arsenal as far as I understood it–fewer perhaps but improved (greater reach, higher yield per nuke, etc).

      • chuckb

        danb, you have to realize the liberals only read the part they like.

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      Where did you get the idea that the Russians are tearing up their nukes? Or do you actually believe them when they say they are? They never have before. What makes you believe they will do it this time?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        This admin forgot Reagans famous words: Trust But Verify!!!

  • Dennis Patrick

    Accidently found this memo on the interwebs:

    INTERNAL & CONFIDENTIAL
    May 17, 2011

    Gentlemen,

    It has been apparent for some time now that the current field of GOP presidential candidates is not up to the task of facing Barack Obama in 2012. Each carries assorted baggage (marital infidelity, serial flip-flopping, cardboard personality, being a former CEO of a tastes-like-cardboard pizza chain, etc.) that ensures our party may not even make it out of the starting gate. This is unacceptable.

    In the wake of a closed-door meeting with top GOP consultants, the members of the Secret Society have concluded that drastic times call for drastic measures. To that end we are in agreement:

    We must draft Bush.

    No, not Neil, the black sheep. Nor Jeb, who has all but admitted that his last name has given his first name a bad name.

    I’m speaking, of course, of George Herbert Walker Bush.

    There are ample reasons why the senior Bush is perfect: He has actual Oval Office experience. Unlike his son, he concluded a war and brought the troops home. Thanks to his two terms as Vice President from 1981 to 1989, he still has molecules of CO2 exhaled by Ronald Reagan circulating in his body, making him a walking shrine. And unlike the current crop of Republican candidates, he can tell time.

    Can Bush, Sr. really go up against Barack Obama? We’ve thought this over carefully and, yes, we believe he can. In fact, we contend he can go one better than Obama. For example, instead of ordering strikes from the comfort of the Situation Room, George H.W. Bush will parachute into terrorist hideouts himself and capture evildoers with his bare hands. (But he’ll bring an aide with a bazooka just in case they’re particularly stubborn.)

    Some might say that, at 87, he’s really old. We say he’s really experienced. However, we do admit that we’ll want to avoid certain head-to-head competitions with Mr. Obama, such as, believe it or not, bowling.

    You might be asking yourself if this is legal. Yes! Mr. Bush only served one term as president, which means he’s got one left in his electoral quiver. Finally, the Republican party will have it’s own Grover Cleveland.

    We urge you to take this proposal seriously. We’ve set up a special pre-exploratory exploratory committee called “PoppyPAC” (not to be confused with Poppypac.co.uk). We urge you to give generously as we ramp up our operation to take back America. As soon as we raise a thousand bales of cash, we can re-unleash the thousand points of light. It will be a momentous day when we go to Kennebunkport and tell Mr. Bush: “Read…our…lips. You…are…drafted.”

    Seriously. It’s all we got.

    Sincerely,

    Randolph Abercrombie Winthorp “Skip” Throckmorton IV
    Secretary
    The Secret Society

    P.S. As for the First Ladies, it will be no contest. Michelle Obama’s biceps may be “guns,” but Bar is 100 percent “battle axe.”

  • larry

    I agree with ChuckB.

    I like Cain/Bachman ticket.

    • Jovianus

      So do I. And that should give you pause to think :)

      • 45caliber

        Yeah. I think that you are saying so in the hope someone will decide to not support it based on the recommendation of a lib. Or is that a progressive?

  • Dennis M. Ellis

    Don’t begin reading this one until you’ve got 5 to 10 minutes to REALLY read it and to ponder what’s happening.

    THIS ONE WILL SHOCK AND FRIGHTEN YOU! IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. PLEASE READ THIS AND

    FORWARD IT ON!!

    FROM STEVE KROFT (60 Minutes ONE EVIL HUMAN

    This is very interesting material. Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that

    Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft

    from 60 Minutes. It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the

    nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of

    Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress).

    Interesting read on George Soros:

    If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity

    to President, or why the media is “selective” in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He (SOROS) controls President Obama’s every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won’t regret it.

    Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don’t think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama’s reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US ?

    “In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it.”/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS’ Mr. Steve Kroft’s research has turned up. It’s a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.

    “George Soros”
    George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-Christian,anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good.” He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

    György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 in Hungary. Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s.

    When Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary, to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.

    Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.” 70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect” During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “best year.”

    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

    SOROS: Yes. Yes.

    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors.

    SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

    KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

    SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

    KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

    SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

    In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather “potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.” Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994.

    Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society ,” and Fallibilism. Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.)The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice
    about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.”

    In 1956 Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street , and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless,
    amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

    In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for ” The American Thinker ” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England. He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight.”

    In 1994 Soros crowed in ” The New Republic ,” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee , to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history.

    “The “Soros Empire” indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia. At the time, Malaysia ‘s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros “a villain,
    and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula.

    He sucks the blood from the people.”

    The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia ,Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma]. Calling himself a
    philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who
    functions with absolute amorality.”

    France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized.

    Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

    My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia ‘s national newspaper ” The Australian .”
    ” America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about.”

    Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

    Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil, in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Pet rob ras).

    Tait Trussel writes, “The Pet rob ras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S
    could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.”

    A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com. Their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”

    Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs,
    uthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.” In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people . His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”

    Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with
    radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

    Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

    November 2008 edition of the German magazine ” Der Spiegel ,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. )should do after taking office. “I think we need a large stimulus package.” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right.

    Soros also said that “I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

    Although Soros doesn’t (yet)own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well. Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars.
    According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

    In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 (that’s Five Billion) to the Democratic National Committee , DNC, to insure Obama’s win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist.

    George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

    Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM
    (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro’s NEMESIS.

    As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

    Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America’s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering.”

    Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are:

    MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.

    Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

    Without Soros’ money, would the Saul Alinsky’s Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists

    still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

    America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack
    Obama is leading the way.

    The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may
    take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”

    ————–

    Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

    • karolyn

      I certainly agree with abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, and gay marriage. What is wrong with feminism and sex education? As far as euthanasia is concerned, I would hope that if I wanted to die and couldn’t do it for myself, somebody else could legally do it. I have no problem with legal guns.

    • Dennis Patrick

      What a load of garbage – I’d love to see “sources”, especially to some of the more far out claims. Remember that Soros was born in 1930 – how does a 14 year old become a leading Nazi? Show me any documentation on this one: “Soros donated $5,000,000,000 (that’s Five Billion) to the Democratic National Committee”. Soros certainly did help end Communism in Eastern Europe (and profitted along with Jeffrey Sachs and multinatinal corporations that scooped up state companies when they were privated – and I thought you were against a bloated government).

      And get your Alinsky facts right – Saul Alinsky tried to recruit Hillary (Rodham) Clinton, Obama didn’t believe in agitation – a community organizer helps people get jobs, get education and keep kids off of drugs. Radical, I know. But even Jerry Kellman (the Alinksy-ite who hired Obama) said that he opposed Alinksky techniques.

      The fact that you can see the NGOs of Soros and not those of the Koch brothers – who knowingly poison and pollute Americans – should show you that he is proud of his views and does not have to hide behind his money.

    • Jovianus

      I won’t go and paste the actual transcript of the Kroft interview etc., but here’s a short snippet of a portion of the UNEDITED text of Kroft’s interview. Note the difference with what is passed off in the preceding post and the actual reality. You may find this entire post above ripped to shreds at MediaMatters.com

      Anyone who is sending the above around stating it as the real deal is lying or a stoolie for those who are lying.

      Here is the unedited text of the 60 Minutes interview:

      KROFT: In what way?

      SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and — and anticipate events and when — when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a — a very personal experience of evil.

      KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

      SOROS: Yes. Yes.

      KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

      SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        jovi,
        Why stop right there?? Because it says what you want it to? Go a little farther and tell the whole sick story of Soreass!!!

    • 45caliber

      And, sadly, the epitomy of capitalism at its worst is Soros – who finances the Democrats. So of course they insist he’s really a wonderful man when you get to know him deep down …

  • chuckb

    unfortunately, the people who need to read this information will probably never see it, most of them wouldn’t understand or be able to read it. they are the ones voting for barry soetoro.

  • Average Joe

    For those who say that Ron Paul is either a “long shot” or “unelectable”, everyone is a long shot and unelectable…if we don’t vote for them! Get motivated, spread the message of freedom and liberty! Let’s make the “business as usual” crowd the long shot and unelectable….. Ron Paul 2012!!!! VOTE,VOTE,VOTE!

  • http://com i41

    See the niggardly marxist muslim is planning on making a Palistine state and will cut the Jewish state back to the 1967 border. His plan will give Isreal land back to the sand n—er Arab perverts. Still don’t think this jug eared puke isn’t a muslim yet, who is in bed literally, with all the pedophile pervert muslims. I guess the purple lipped bastard is showing his true faggot colors and why he is the worst racist slub Pres. of the USA ever.

    • Karolyn

      He’s right about Israel.

      • Mike in MI

        Karolyn -
        Guess you ust be one of those who support

        • Mike in MI

          Karolyn (cont’d) -
          support the peoples’ heroes like Demjanyuk, Hitler, the KKK, the medieval RCC, Achmedinijihad, the beheaders of Daniel Pearl, the beating-rapists last month of the woman journalist covering the events in Egypt and every person who has promoted genocide against the jews and Hebrews.
          ‘Cause if you think the Obaminator is right on his call for a return to 1967 Borders in Israel then you might as well say it right out loud, “Kill all the Jews. Destroy Israel. I want genocide and annihilation against all the enemies of Allah. I advocate a new Holocaust.”
          You might as well say it ’cause that is what will follow Islamic occupation of those territories…and you agree with Obama.

          • bob wire

            Mike , ~ in matter of state ~ the discussion has to be started from a particular reference point. ~ This has been the starting point for many discussion on this matter for the last 30 years and not uniquely Obama.

            So relax and behave like you deserve to be in the room.

            “O” has laid down a marker and permitted 2 days time for Israel and visiting statesmen to chew on it “before” they come face to face to parlay.

            That’s the way high level “discussions” are conducted usually. Reagan worked with Michel for over 4 years in such fashion. The opening “marker” is simple a “kick off” to start the ball in play.

            Weak “openers” get little respect from opponents.

  • chuckb

    141, no doubt bout it.

  • newspooner

    Patriots of all stripes (libertarians, constitutionalists, true conservatives, true liberals, etc) whether Republicans, Democrats, or Libertarians, should avoid getting caught up in the royalty crap. Don’t put all the emphasis on who will be President. Put all your effort into supporting candidates at all levels who truly favor LOWER TAXES, LESS GOVERNMENT, and MORE INDIVIDUAL FREDOM, whether they are candidates for President or smaller local and regional offices. Getting a majority of honest constitutionalists in Congress is far more important than electing the least of the evils to the Presidency. And electing good people to Congress often starts a few years earlier with electing good people to state legislatures.

    • bob wire

      a 9-12′er newspooner?

      Good luck with that and it is truly worth the effort. It has to be attempted. I would be interested in such a group of voters interested in long term change of government.

      I fear however, it will be much like the high school football coach speaking to his team about racial predigest. ~ Claiming that he wasn’t and that every player on the team was green to him and then said , “fall out and form me two lines, light green to the right and dark green to the left.”

  • Patriotson

    60 per cent will vote for Obama but what the poll doesn’t say is that those asked were all democrats. No American in his right mind could support the Obama who is socialist in ideology and Bolshevik in attitude toward businesses; jobs; incentives for success. Class warfare and wealth redistribution is the bedrock of his agenda. Obamacare was only the introduction to the “new order” he wants to establish. Third world status where we are all equal in the eyes of the socialist state is the vision. Look toward Cuba. See how happy they all are but even in a socialist state, the elite have special status and wealth beyond that of the serfs who serve the state.

  • jopa

    The biggest problem now with the Republicans is when they sign these agreements with each other such as we will all stick together and destroy Medicare, Medicaid,Social Security and no new taxes.They have to speak as one and have no independent voice.Look what happened to Newt when he spoke the truth and was blasted by his own party.They know he is right but do not have the liberty to say so.So in closing I will have to say congratulations Mr. Obama.

  • Pete

    Look at the bright side ! Obama will definitely be out of office in 2016 ! I don’t feel to awful because I’m not going to vote for him in 2012. What I do feel bad about is I have to just try harder to gain financial independence.

    The MORONS called the AMERICAN VOTERS will re-elect OBAMA. Then when the cow manure hits the fan, and it will after 2012, the only people who will survive are going to be the “elite”, that means the super rich who have mucho wealth for their own PACS ….

    So my advice is – make as much money as you can, as fast as you can.. or faster ….

    Then “buy” some candidates …….

  • Wayne937

    If you would like to see how your Congress Member is voting, go here and click on your state then pass this around to your friends who are interested in restoring sanity back into our nation:http:

    //www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=72&chamber=S&congress=1121

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