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Bipartisan Opposition To Senate Climate Bill Growing

November 6, 2009 by  

Bipartisan opposition to Senate climate bill growingThe climate change bill that was scheduled to be marked up in the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee is facing growing opposition not only from Republicans but also from some Senate Democrats.

The "cap and trade" bill is sponsored by Democratic Senators Barbara Boxer of California and John Kerry of Massachusetts, and would require U.S. manufacturers, utilities and refineries to reduce their carbon pollution output 20 percent by 2020, from 2005 levels.

However, many lawmakers have expressed concerns about the possible impact of the bill on their regions’ utilities and consumers.

Democratic Senator Ben Nelson of Nebraska told CNBC that he believed that "at the end of the day, the people who turn the switch on at home will be disadvantaged."

Meanwhile, a more powerful opposition is coming from the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee Max Baucus of Montana who said that while "we cannot afford the unmitigated impacts of climate change … we also cannot afford the unmitigated effects of legislation."

The developments come against the backdrop of calls from President Obama for the Senate to pass climate change legislation.

Speaking at the DeSoto Next Generation Solar Energy Center in Arcadia, Florida, the president also warned that "the closer we get to this new energy future … the more we’re going to hear from special interests and lobbyists in Washington whose interests are contrary to the interests of the American people."
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  • ONTIME

    Like the Health Bill, and the coming Amnesty fight this Climate legislation is full of fraud and deciet and it is lead by a liberal lie machine and supported by a RINO contingent, this congress for all intent and purpose is rife with corruption and constantly in violation of Constitutional law as well as ordinary law. In most cases there is no hisorical, scientific or logical support for argument to support these charlatan schemes for maintaining power and a continued grip on power, in order to keep elite self aggrandizing leadership in place….the time is now for a reorganization of this congress and the remaining branches, it is time for Americans to apply their Republican heritage and clean up this mess to restore a honor and a decent future for this nation and it’s citizens.

    • http://sitebloggs.com Chuckie

      Well said and now you need to get it out to the people!

    • Pat R

      Scientists are now saying that “what we are experiencing is the natural
      warming and cooling of the earth which has been going on since the beginning of time.”

    • Rod the Other

      I follow your sentiment. Anyone that has not bought-in to the evironmental-emotional-extortion can only see the CAP&TAX and the green movement for one thing and that is a social control movement. It is through these types of liberal policies that the lefties & socialist will seek to further their redistributive agenda.

      • denniso

        RTO, the overwhelming majority of real scientists around the world confirm climate change w/ a portion of it being wrought by human activity for the past couple hundred yrs. Let the scientists do their work and draw their conclusions..it is not a socialist plot Rod. Grow up!

        • ccg

          Den yes, esp. algore who is getting rich off of the premise.

        • Jim

          Only a small portion of scientist believe that CO2 is a toxic gas, and that group are only afraid of having there funding cut off. There is a group of 31,000 scientists (real scientists) who have signed on to a statement that says global warming (caused by mankind) is an outright hoax.

          Facts about CO2:

          CO2 is essential to all plant life.
          If CO2 did not exist, all life on this planet would be over.
          97% of CO2 comes from evaporation off the worlds bodies of water.

          Global Warming is a cyclical occurance, and it follow the sun spot activitiy. There is REAL Science.

          Al Gore is wrong and belongs in a loony bin.

          • denniso

            Jim…There is a kooky theory out there that says people can drown in too much water. We know it’s a hoax though,because we know that water is necessary to life…w/o water no life on earth would be possible..therefore we know,more so than scientists, that water cannot possibly cause harm..the more the better. The scientists are all lying about water because they’re getting rich on the fear. It’s a hoax that water can cause humans to die.

    • American Patriot

      ONTIME YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN EVERYTHING YOU HAVE STATED.!! NOT ONLY IS IT ABOUT POWER AND MAITAING IT , IT ALSO STEMS FROM MONEY AND GREED.!!. THE MORON MOVEMENT OVER GLOBAL WARMING IS NOTHING MORE THAN A POLITICAL HOAX TO DRIVE THEIR HORRIFIC AGENDAS ON THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION.!!. IT NEEDS TO BE STOPED BEFORE THEY COMPLETELY DESTROY THE FREE MARKET SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.!!. ALL THESE POLITICAL MOVEMENTS LEAD MOSTLY BY AL GORE AND THE LEFTIST MOVEMENTS OF THE WORLD , WANT TO DO IS DESTROY THE WORLD ECONOMYS AND CONTROL THE LITTLE PEOPLE COMPLETELY.!!. EVERYTHING THEY DO IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL. THEY REALLY DO WANT TO CONTROL THE WORLD.!!. THE FUNNY THING IS EVERYTIME ONE OF THESE MORONS (AL GORE) GETS QUESTIONED THAT HIS THEORYS ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CORRECT , ALL THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IS GO ON THE ATTACK AND BASH THE PERSON THAT ASK THEM AN HONEST QUESTION. IT SURE MAKES YOU THINK WHEN SCIENCE CAN NOT BACK UP WHAT THE LEFT IS TRYING TO PREACH THE PEOPLE.!!!. I AM SURE AL GORE WOULD LOVE TO SIGN OFF ON THE NEW GLOBAL HOAX CLIMATE TREATY THAT WILL SOON BE SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT.!!. GOD HELP US ALL IF THAT HORRIFIC LEGISLATION IS INACTED BY CONGRESS AND SENATE.!!!. IT WILL CERTAINLY BE THE END OF ALL INDUSTRY AND MANUFACTURING IN AMERICA.!!!.

      BE STEADFAST AND TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE AND CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS AND TELL THEM THAT WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT ANY OF THIS HORRIBLE LEGISLATION. STARTING WITH THE GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE CONTROL REFORM.!!!

      AMERICAN PATRIOT.

  • DaveH

    Why don’t the Liberals spend their money on developing competitive alternative energy sources instead of spending all that money trying to politically force their currently uncompetitive alternative energy schemes down the throats of the citizens?
    Just the fact that they have moved away from the phrase ‘Global Warming’ to the phrase ‘Climate Change’ should tell a thinking person something. It is all about smoke and mirrors. People with good intentions don’t need to be sneaky.

    • http://sitebloggs.com Chuckie

      Have you not seen the goal behind the one pulling off this con job and at the same time making money off the tax payer.

      Their is always two sides to a story it called research the people who are behind the lies!

      • http://google gary gerke

        Your right, the numbers don’t lie….it is the lier behind them!!!!

  • James E

    It’s about time the PUBLIC sees that Lard assed Al Gore’s climate is a big hoax and just a way for him to make BILLIONS off of the American people.We need to watch what we do but everything these envirowackos do causes more and more people to lose their jobs, even the overseas countries are starting to see thru this crock they are coming up with. We need our own sourcew of energy let’s get it out while we work on other forms of energy. Why are we saving ours for if it takes supposedsly years to get it why are we waiting,we’ve had since the 70′s embargo to do something and the stupid DEMS and envirowackos HAVE STOPPED ALL OF our companiesfrom drilling,itr’s about time we get our own we have more the the ragheads any. JIM

  • Lance Lukenbill

    Good and decent people have looked the other way for the past fifty years as communists gained control of D.C., mass-media, courts, entertainment, and education, by which they control and indoctrinate.
    We’ve gone from a capitalist, God-fearing, work-ethic nation to a socialist Godless 3rd world bankrupt welfare state. Our morals and ethics are gone. Deviants and fringies are entitled and empowered at the expense of normal decent mainstream citizens.
    An invasion from the south has been allowed for two decades, placing a horrendous burden on taxpayers maintaining schools, jails, ad nauseum, and presently close to tanking our healthcare system.
    As in the former democracies now socialized around the globe, the Wahabi threat is being enabled and accomodated by the intake of tens of thousands of muslims, colonizing and using the socialized system to challenge and change our way of life. The government is allowing them to openly infiltrate critical and sensitive areas of congress without giving it a second thought.
    It is time. To rid ourselves of the commie control of mass-media, courts, education, entertainment and government.
    Either peacefully, or by force.
    God Bless America, and may he be at the shoulder of all who hold our heritage dear.

    • denniso

      Lance…anybody remember the great and holy John Birch Society??Looks like you’re back in biz guys…

    • http://none myrtle francis

      Hi Lance, You have just made my day. You know our young kids are living without GOD. The people just cant see what is going on with them, well,when you have taken GOD from everything,that matters, then they have no reason to do the moral thing. Our government has thrown out anything ,but saten, and believe me he is having a time destroying our country. thanks for your comment.myrtle francis GOD bless.

  • Chris

    Where are all the thriving industries that are ready to take over when the oil companies cease operations?
    Where can we find the thousands of acres covered with solar panels, the network of hydro-electric facilities, the massive wind farms, or even the factories that are building this vast new infrastructure? NOWHERE!
    The Democrats want to pull the rug out from under the existing infrastructure with nothing to fall back on. The truth is, the technology does not yet exist for us to switch over from fossil fuels.
    In America, we’re not supposed to kill one industry in the hope that another will replace it.

    • http://www.generationtalk.com Merkell

      Global warming is a fact not a hoax. The melting of the ice caps in the poles is the clearest evidence. Data obtained from studies of deep layers of ice in the poles show how levels of CO2 in the atmosphere increase dramatically in the last four decades, compared to levels of change in previous centuries and millenia. Geological evidence, and recent data from the last forty or fifty years shows the same patterns. Of course, there are some scientists, whose studies were financed by oil and coal companies, who would say there is no global warming. However most of the international scientific community now agrees that global warming or climate change is a fact. What some of them question is whether this is caused by human activities or not. Dear friends, this is not a matter of belief or political ideology, but a matter of survival for most of the world.
      Energy reform will give the government the tools and funds needed for the development of existing green technologies (solar, geothermal, wind, hydrological, etc.) and research for the creation of new technologies necessary to reduce green house emissions. We need to invest in green technology because we still do not have the capability to supply enough energy for our needs, as Chris recognizes it; but if we don’t start now, we will ever have it.
      Furthermore, if the United States does not invest in green technology now, we will be left behind, while oil deposits dwindle and the world engages in wars to control what is left. China has already created more than 3 million jobs in industries making components of solar energy systems and wind technology.
      But even if we close our eyes from the evidence of melting ice caps and climate changes that we have experienced every year, we still should make every effort to reduce air pollution, at least because we care about our own health. Air pollution with CO2, mercury from coal plants, arsenic, and acid reactions produced in the atmosphere from the toxic gases spewed by industries are extremely harmful to all mammals. There is a close relation between air pollution and asthma and other respiratory diseases; arsenic and cancer. Mercury harms the brain, and the correlation between air pollution and several brain disorders is clear. The percentage of children with learning disabilities has been rising for decades. More than 400 physicians gathered in Boston for medical conferences in 2004, explained how scary it was that children, even at birth, were already born with hundreds of highly toxic substances that they received from the mother. Water and soil pollution are also of great concern to all conscious people. We see how different toxic elements in the water are causing biological changes in amphibians, reptiles, and dolphins near plastic industries. Studies of a toxic element not found in nature but manufactured buy humans show that it is causing changes in the sex of amphibians.
      Common people who oppose energy reform and investment in green technology have been influenced by the corporate media. Oil and Coal industries are spending hundreds of millions of dollars in media advertisement, scare tactics, and lobbying Congress to stop the energy bill, or to water it down to nothing. So many of you who are going to Washington DC to protest against energy reform and health reform are just doing the job private industries want you to do. Yes I am against the inclusion of tax-payer funding for abortions, even if it pays part of the cost, but this is not what the main complaint that the government has heard. The main complaint against it is, as some people who believe the corporate propaganda say, “a government takeover the health system, following a socialist ideology.” However there is no takeover. The government is not buying out private hospitals or medical facilities, it is not hiring its own medical personnel and equipment to compete with the private sector. It is only trying to offer a public health insurance option. THAT IS NOT A TAKEOVER. Why don’t they complain against corporate takeover of the whole economy of the world? They control almost every aspect of our lives; including what you eat and drink, etc.

      Those who say that Obama is the worst president in the U.S. history, I would say, look at the evidence: The Reagan and first Bush administrations increased government spending and created a public debt in trillions of dollars. During most of the Clinton administration there was no great increase in the debt. Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the Federal Reserve even opposed paying the debt, because he argued that if the debt was paid, then the government will start to invest in the stock market, and as a shareholder it will disturb the workings of the free market. Greenspan was the chairman of the Federal Reserve since 1987 until 2006, that means he was appointed to that position by the Reagan administration. He favored the deregulation process of the financial system, which caused the economic crisis we are in now.
      Then the last Bush administration increased the public debt in $5 trillion, and left a deficit of $1.2+ trillion from 2008, which added to the $5.9 trillion debt of previous administrations made a total of $12.1 trillion of debt. This debt creates an expenditure of $900 billion a year for the present administration.
      Yes Obama has also increased the debt in order to save the financial system from collapse, which is exactly what the Republicans also supported, and the course of action the Bush administration was considering. I don’t agree with the bail out because it’s a waste of public funds and goes against the capitalist system, but no one within the two political parties had a better option to offer.
      Obama also invested billions of dollars to save General Motors, but this was not a senseless investment. GM is recovering now, and the automobile industry is starting to generate thousands of new jobs. Soon GM will be able to pay back the bail out to the government.

      I am against the decision of the government to include billions of dollars for the IMF in the Afghanistan war bill. Yes that was wrong, but Republicans (conservatives) did not protest against it. In fact, Republicans have always worked closely with this parasitic global financial organization called IMF, and provided financial support from its beginnings in 1945.

      Chris asks, where are the thriving (green) industries ready to take over when the oil industries cease operations? They are not closing their operations yet Chris. They will be around for decades, but they also realize that oil reserves are declining, therefore they are starting to develop new technologies, such as ethanol production from algae and solar energy. However, they will not abandon oil drilling until the last drop of oil has been sucked from all reserves in the world. That is the problem. We can do better than that. We should not wait until a big energy crisis hits the world. Now is the time to exert pressure on the industries to innovate and improve efficiency.
      Requiring the car industry to build efficient cars, with minimum of 35 mpg is not too much to ask. My old SUBARU Legacy, station wagon 1996, AWD had an efficiency of 32 mpg in the summer, and it did not use a hybrid system. This is comparable to two Toyota models. Honda Civic had an efficiency average of 38 to 40 mpg. This is good for the environment and good for personal economies. It is a shame that the other car companies did not follow their example.

      Chris talks about the invasion from the South that created a horrendous burden for public services in the United States. I assume he is talking about the Latino migrations. And I agree that it creates a lot of stress in local communities. However, I suggest that we analyze the cause of the problem, not the migration (invasion) itself, which is just a symptom of a deeper problem affecting all countries. That problem is the global corporate rule. Governments of the most developed nations have empowered global companies and worked on their behalf using tax-payer funds. Behind all the wars of the U.S. against Third World nations is the influence of private interests. Yes, the corporate controlled media will tell you otherwise, but the reality is in front of our eyes. Just as an example; recently the Iraqi government has declared that it will be accepting bids from oil companies from many countries to drill there. U.S. oil representatives immediately argued that “U.S companies deserve to drill in Iraq, not companies from other countries because the U.S. fought the war.” This adds one more evidence that the war in Iraq was for oil, not as Bush and his cohorts tried to convince us, that it had something to do with Sadam’s WMD, and later what they called the “Iraqi liberation.” What liberation? they will be under IMF rule for life. As of 2004, the IMF charged Iraq with a debt of $120 billion.

      • DaveH
        • denniso

          Merkel..excellent post and a lot of work..most of these loud yahoos won’t read it though..their minds are set in cement.

          • DaveH

            More ridicule and name-calling from Denniso who rarely has anything constructive to say.

      • DaveH

        There are two main greenhouse gases created by man – Carbon Dioxide and Methane. The amount of Carbon Dioxide created by man is roughly equal to the amount of methane released by the cattle industry. The two of them together (produced by man) add up to less than 10% of the total greenhouse gases. So if we quit eating meat, and stopped all gasoline usage the greenhouse gases may decrease by 10%.
        A telling point is that the people who say they are concerned are jetting all over the globe and have homes that use many times the amount of energy that an ordinary citizen uses. This is a political ploy and nothing else.

      • DaveH
      • DaveH

        From Merkell’s post:
        “Mercury harms the brain”.
        Interesting isn’t it that our Congressional saviors have passed a law mandating obsolescence of tungsten light bulbs starting in 2012. They will be replaced by Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs which contain mercury and cost 6 times as much as tungsten light bulbs. The Liberals say they have much longer life spans than tungsten, but I have had several in my home and their life spans were not noticeably better than regular light bulbs. They suggest that turning CFLs off and on shortens their life span. So we just leave them on? Such crap. If indeed the energy savings are there and homeowners feel they are worth the risk of mercury poisoning, the people will buy them without being forced to. Incidentally, two of our CFLs broke in the lamp fixtures. I don’t recall ever having a tungsten light bulb break like that.
        What a web they weave!
        Government is Force, not Reason.

      • Rusty

        Are you on the side of al gore or what. After all that writting I did not see anywhere that would say that the EARTH GOES THROUGH NATURAL CYCLES OF WARMING & COOLING. It will continue to do wether we are here or not, just like it has from day one. If i’m wrong about this one, the earth has also had complete shifts in polarity if that is the word for it, and when this occurs its very violent. So all the taxes and the control that it seems you want wont change the fact it happens naturally because it seems you support the idea its our fault. Please. The only reason why someone would support this man made hoax, would possible getting paid for it. Again NOT ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE. I can find just as many that dont agree. My opinion only.

        • denniso

          Rusty..Almost all real scietists w/ any expertise that is relevant affirm global warming caused partly by man. The right wing and industry find phd’s w/o expertise in climate science and uses them as shills for their interests..keep doing everything as we have been for a century or more and don’t rock the boat of huge corporate profits.

          • DaveH

            Show us some references to your very biased statements. You can give us your unsupported double-speak all day long.

          • johnk

            Dennis ever listened to Lord Christopher Monckton

          • DaveH

            Here’s his chance (like he would really want to know facts).
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7tMY3ou0Yo

          • denniso

            I’ve listened..he’s a joke!

          • DaveH

            Denniso’s comment:
            “Almost all real scietists w/ any expertise that is relevant affirm global warming caused partly by man”

            I guess these guys aren’t real:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming#Believe_global_warming_is_primarily_caused_by_natural_processes

          • johnk

            So denniso you think lord moncktons a joke at least he has some facts to back up his points as opposed to your precious Al Gore who has made millions of his global warming hoax which for some reason is now refered to as climate change most of the scientist who formerly supported this hoax know know that climate change is caused by the sun why cant you liberals understand that.Al gore is a huge hypocrite he flys arround in his jet drives around in his big suv and then turns around and tells us that we are killing the planet give me a brake hes so full of s*#@ but i guess that must be one of the defining traits of a liberal

        • DaveH

          Rusty,
          Thank goodness that all scientists haven’t sold their souls to the government. When are people going to wake up to the fact that government sponsored scientists are not at liberty to be real scientists?

          • s c

            DaveH, and JohnK, ultralibs don’t listen. They ‘feel.’ They don’t reason. They don’t cooperate. They force and try to intimidate. They parrot back that which they’ve been taught by their ‘leaders’ and non-journalists at lamestream newspapers and pimped-out TV networks – and they call it ‘hope and change.’
            Ultralibs love to project their fears and flaws at anyone who refuses to swallow their bilge or listen twice to today’s latest ‘revelations’ made by non-leaders who never had a clue.
            We’re dealing with people who reason at the Dick and Jane level. They demand that we seem them as word-class speakers and thinkers who rival Einstein. Conservatives will admit there are losers in our midst, but try and get an ultralib to admit that their ‘leaders’ are less than gods. And they wonder how and why we prefer braying jackasses at a zoo.

          • DaveH

            Yep SC. They confuse Hopes and Dreams with intelligence. It’s much easier to sell Hopes and Dreams to ignorant people than it is to sell them Reality.

      • ccg

        Merkell, you sure like to talk a lot. Generally someone who talks so much can’t learn much as all he can hear is his own voice. You could go to work for Al Gore.

        • DaveH

          I agree CCG. He must be a lawyer. One of their favorite tactics is to throw hundreds of pages of verbage at the Judge in an effort to distract the Judge from the real facts of the case.

          • denniso

            Genius DaveH…You just accused me of saying too little, and now you state Merkel says too much..You learned that from your drug dealing fat cat limbaugh. Obama does something, you attack him for doing it…he doesn’t do something, you attack for not doing enough!! If we were juvenile minded like you and your cronies it might be effective,but since that’s not the case, it’s only laughable!

          • DaveH

            Not genius, just reality. Do you ever have anything to offer?
            Keep commenting Liberal. You are one of my best examples for those fence straddlers.

      • CindyL

        Merkell, I wanted to dispell most of what you had written. However daughter hoped on her lap top and was researching your statements. Seems as though you are very well versed in many subject matters. While researching, she saw that our unemployment rate is the same as back in Regan’s time. You make some valid arguements about Greenspan, who has admitted that trickle down did not work, and that he and Ayn Rand were wrong in their theories about the free market. Just today, John Reed, the Citigroup Chairman stated that it was a mistake for Congress to have repealed the Glass-Steagall Act. He also recommends breaking up the big banks. I was in shock. I understand that if we don’t start Cap n trade, we will not make any progress. Look at us now, we should have started alternative fuel back in the 70′s when we were first promised that we would get off oil. Money talks, and people get complacent. Thank you for taking the time to offer such diverse opinions with facts. I am curious as to what your major was in college? Thanks again for taking the time to express some very valid points.

        • s c

          You think Alan Greenspan is a role model? ARE you aware that Herr Greenspan blessed the idea of derivatives? Do you worship the new Fed airhead, too? Are you aware that the Fed (which you approve of by default) is a PRIVATE CORPORATION and it has been ripping off America since before you were born?
          You definitely put a new angle on the idea of ‘well-versed.’ Kindly remember that there’s a world of difference between being well-versed and having your head jammed up your ‘opinion.’ Between you and merkell, you sound like a twisted political ad for al ‘make me rich’ gore. I get the overwhelming impression that you and your ilk are utterly devolved Darwinians, or hanging upside down in a dark cave is a way of life. Kindly cap-and-trade yourself (now!), and stop taking those mind-bending drugs.

        • CindyL

          sc. you are rude, and make assumptions that are unfounded. I didn’t say I supported Alan Greenspan,maybe you should go back and read my statement. You are projecting you fears and assumptions onto me. Did I say I supported the Fed? Your anger is out of control and your generalizing about everyone who has a differing opinion shows your lack of confidence in your ability to present facts and make a logical conclusion. I am willing to discuss policies and concepts with you, as long as you can refrain from making statements which have nothing to do with my comments, and attaching to me your thoughts and conclusions, which are off topic and not spoken by me.

          • denniso

            sc…CindyL writes a civil comment and you trash her..come on! be courteous,at least to a woman.

        • DaveH

          Man-Made greenhouse gases are less then 10% of the total greenhouse gases. If we completely eliminated mankind 90% of the gases (or more) would still exist. Read some books Cindy. There are many out there that debunk the Liberal proposals. One is “The Satanic Gases, Clearing the Air about Global Warming”, another is “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming”. The Global Warming issue (now called Climate Change because too many voters have caught on to the Global Warming scam)is nothing more than a political football whereby various special interest groups seek to make their fortunes or hobble the United States.
          You could start by reading some of the links that I provided in response to Merkel. Of course, that is only if you truly want to learn.

          • denniso

            You’re actually trying to tell reasonable people that humans can burn carbon,clear forests,change river courses,blow off mountain tops,spew millions of tons of toxic crap,make extinct hundreds of other species,wreck entire eco systems over 2 centuries and more, and not have a major,deleterious impact on OUR Earth?? You are fighting Big BIZ’s battle against common sense and the Earth itself.

          • DaveH

            Yes, I am telling reasonable people. That leaves you out.
            I think your herder is looking for you. Baa a a. Baa a a.

          • DaveH

            We have more trees than ever before thanks mostly to those evil corporations who are planting and managing forests. Of course they have a profit motive. Just as you Liberals do. The difference is that they seek their money in a voluntary system. You seek yours by force.

      • s c

        Comrade obama may be proud of you. Queen Pelosi may be proud of you. Al ‘I want in on that redistribution of wealth scam’ Gore MUST be proud of you. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Lenin, Marx, Saul Alinsky and every other intellectual pervert is proud of you. However, that crap you put out amounts to a political compost pile. You just can’t get past the carbon dioxide lie (you actually look up to an airhead like gore?).
        ET, here’s another one for you! Come and get him!
        He doesn’t know the difference between a political scam and science.
        I’m tempted to say that a) you don’t take enough drugs or 2) you take too many. Wake up, guy. That dream world you live in is falling down around you.
        Consider moving to China. Think of all the billions there you can ‘convince.’ Don’t forget to write.

      • Rod the Other

        MAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARNING (OR CLIMATE CHANGE) IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER FARCE.
        There is absolutely NO SCIENCTIFIC DATA to validate it. They only thing the lefties can offer is computer modeling, which has been shown to be STRONGLY influenced by the limited data that the “GREENINES” choose to use. Further more, the globe has been cooling for the last 10 years and NONE OF THEIR MODELS SHOWED THAT. All of their models showed ONLY INCREASES.

        AND why is it that the environmental whack-o’s list all sorts of illconceived eco-strategies, like bio-fuels or going veggitarian, but never talk about the ONE TRUE “eco-freindly” energy source of NUCLEAR energy? Yeah they want us to start using electric cars, but where is the electricity going to come from?…windmills..Solar. big problems with wind & solar energy people. When the wind stops blowing…NO ELECTRICITY. When the sun is gone…guess what…NO ELECTRICITY.

        GLOBAL WARMING IS NOTHING MORE THAN SOCIAL CONTROL! and as nearly ALL liberal-policy and progressive thinking goes, it does more harm than good.

        • denniso

          WRONG ROD!! We can easily detect the real mouthpiece behind your rather mindless rant..If you ever want to be able to actually think clearly,TURN OFF LIMBAUGH!!You and the other 20 mil or so of his fans are nothing but blind sheep following a lying drughead. You know it. Make a break for real freedom,ROD!!

          • DaveH

            More substanceless attacks by the Liberal Denniso. When the Liberals have no valid debate points (usually the case) they need to stoop to personal attacks. Show us the meat Liberal.

          • s c

            D, until you and your chums learn the difference between pc-enforced coercion/oppression and freedom, you might as well take up space in Washington. You offer America the ‘peace’ of abortion, third world status and perpetual, indentured servitude. You offer gestapo tactics in the guise of false political prophets. You offer time-proven stupidity in the name of ‘economics of change.’
            You offer a non-leader who thinks there’s no difference between a wannabe rock star and a political huckster who can’t carry on a conversation without a teleprompter. You offer a
            cap-and-trade ‘quick-fix solution’ that will cost millions of jobs and enslave America. Have you no shame? Did you ever have a conscience?
            If you ever had a clue, you lost it. If you ever had a rational argument for making America better, you traded it in for a ‘transparent administration’ composed of losers, perverts and social rejects who should be behind bars.
            Fidel needs you. Chavez needs you. That little pot-bellied demi-god in North Korea needs you. Until you have at least one foot in the real world, your offerings are as helpful as a Nazi brownshirt convention.
            We need practical solutions. We don’t need more politicians or their suck-ups. We need Americans. We never needed people who think Orwell’s 1984 is a template for ‘improving’ America.

          • denniso

            S C…solutions?? You and your side,corporatists,don’t want to do anything. You deny global warming..you deny healthcare problems,you deny that Bush should have finished the wars,they’re going well…you deny that rampant poverty is a problem and no problem w/ the huge and growing income gap….you want the status quo because that is working for the giant corporations and you are their pawns!!!

          • DaveH

            And you are a pawn of Big Government. The corporations can only take advantage of the citizens with the backing of the government. The Big Government that you champion. The Leaders are making fools of you Liberals. While you practice the politics of envy with Big Governments coaxing, the Leaders are robbing the citizens blind.

      • Jim

        The North pole ice caps have been melting since the 15th century, and will continue melting until the effects of the Little Ice age are over. What you are NOT saying: The Southern Ice caps are growing, and in fact over the last 11 years has grown some 39%. You have bought into the garbage spouted by Algore and his minnions. You are wrong, Global Warming created by man IS A HOAX.

      • American Patriot

        LETS NOT FOR GET THE FACT THAT SINCE FDR AND THE LIBERAL FAR LEFT / CLINTONS AND NOW THE MODERN DAY FAR LEFTIST AND EXTREME RADICAL FAR LEFT BARBARACK INSEIN OBAMDA NATION OF AMERICA FAR LEFTIST RADICAL ADMINISTRATION. FACT IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS AND WILL BE THE WORST IN AMERICAN HISTORY , AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR BLIND EYES TO SEE IT.!!. ITS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE IF YOU WOULD JUST OPEN UP YOUR BLIND EYES.!!!. SIMPLE FACT IS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP AND SEEING WHATS GOING ON BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.!!!.THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT THIS UNQUALIFIED PRESIDENT HAS ALREADY SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYED AND CONTINUES TO PURPOSELY DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT, LIKE THE CONSTITUTION , FREEDOMES , RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES, FREE MARKET ENTERPISE , INDUSTRY , MANUFACTURING , BANKING INDUSTRY , AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY , STEEL INDUSTRY , HOUSING INDUSTRY, LENDING INDUSTRY, WITH HIS CARELESS BAIL OUTS (I MEAN PAY BACKS FOR GETTING HIMSELF ELECTED!!) STIMULAS TAXATION AND THE DESTUCTION OF THE DOLLAR (I MEAN DSTUCTION OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY!!)AND MOST IMPORTANT DESTRUCTION OF JOBS.!!! THE SIMPLE FABRIC OF THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO DESTROY AMERICA I BRICK AT A TIME SWEET JEUSUS FOR ANYONE STILL TO BLIND TO SEE THIS , ITS RIGHT IN YOUR FACE NOW JUST OPEN YOUR BLIND EYES.!!!. BEFORE THE SOCIALIST DICTATOR AND HIS RADICAL COMMUNIST CZARS AND LEFTIST CABINET STEEL THE LAST BIT OF RIGHTS , FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES THAT WE HAVE LEFT THROUGH THEIR HORRIFIC GOVERNMENT SO CALLED HEALTH CARE REFORM , (WHICH THE CORRECT DEFINITION IS TRANSFORMATION OF AMERICA INTO A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST STATE.!!!!. MEANING NO MORE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS OH I MEAN YOU GET THE RIGHT TO HAVE GOV. HEALTH CARE GET FORCED DOWN YOUR THROATS AND YOU GET THE RIGHT TO WAIT FOR TREATMENT 1-2 YEARS .!! YOUE GET THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEM CHOOSE YOUR DOCTORS AND YOUR TREATMENT, IF YOUR LUCKY TO GET ANY TREATMENT BEFORE YOU DIE.?? WACKO MORON REP.ALIN GRAYSON FLORIDA DEMOCRAT FEAR MONGRULE THIS MORON CAN EVEN ANSWER A QUESTION WHEN HE IS WALKING IN THE HALLS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES WHICH BY THE WAY IS OWNED BY THE TAX PAYERS THIS MORON DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHO HE WORKS FOR.!!!.HE SAYS IT RIGHT , THAT DEMOCRATS WANT YOU TO DIE AND DIE QUICKLY , EVEN BEFORE THE DEATH PANELS CAN DENY YOU ANY HEALTH CARE OR ANY TREATMENTS.!!!. AFTER DOCTOR RATIONS YOU WILL BE LUCKY TO EVER SEE A DOCTOR AGAIN IN YOUR LIFETIME. OF IF YOU HAVE ALOT OF MONEY YOU CAN LEAVE THE COUNTRY FOR GERMANY OR SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD TO GET MEDICAL CARE TO SAVE YOUR OWN LIFE. BUT DON’T WORRY THE DEMOCRATS WILL STILL TAX YOU TO DEATH FOR THERE GET GOV. RUN CAN OPT IN OR OUT BECAUSE YOU HAD THERE PLAN SHOVED DOWN YOUR THROAT AND FORCED IT ON YOU WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT.!! ONLY BECAUSE THERE GREAT PLAN DESTROYED THE FREE MARKET HEATH CARE AND THE ENTIRE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM WHAT USED TO BE THE BEST HEATH CARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD ALL DESTROYED BY THE COMMUNIST SOCIALIST DICTATOR OSAMA OBAMA AND THE RADICAL FAR LEFT.!!!!!!!.. I HAVE A GREAT IDEA LETS SAVE AMERICA IMPEACH THEM ALL NOW , PUT THEM ON A PLANE AND FLY THEM ALL DOWN TO CUBA AND LET THEM GOVERN BESIDE CASTRO , THEY ARE ALL IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER ANYWAY !!!, ITS A PUBLIC FACT THEY ALL WANT TO TRANSFORM AMERICA INTO A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST STATE.!!!!. OR MAYBE YOU ARE ONE OF THE POOR BLIND ONES STILL IN LINE TO GET YOUR FLU AND H1N1 SHOTS , OH UMM WELL SEEMS TO BE A SHORTAGE OR MAYBE RATIONS GOING INTO EFFECT ALREADY.?? WELL IN THE MEAN TIME HOPE YOU DO NOT DIE.? OH DON’T WORRY THE PRESIDENTS KIDS GOT THEIR SHOTS AND THE POLITITIANS ALL GOT THEIRS TOO ., BUT DON’T WORRY MAYBE NEXT YEAR YOU CAN GET FLU SHOTS.?? WELL IF YOU ARE STILL ALIVE THAT IS.!!!. JUST A QUICK LOOK INTO THE FUTURE OF HOW IT WILL BE WITH THE GREAT NEW DEMOCRAT GOVERNMENT HEALTH CONTROL.!!!!!.
        GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.!!! WELL MAYBE YOU WILL WANT TO GET UP OFF THE COUCH AND MAYBE CALL YOUR DEMOCRAT SENATORS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU REALLY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THEIR HORRIFIC IDEA OF SOCIALIST COMMUNIST HEALTH CARE REFORM , I MEAN (TRANSFORM AMERICA INTO A SOCIALIST STATE OF COMMUNISM.!!!).!!!.
        YES YOU JUST MIGHT WANT TO MAKE SOME CALLS AND HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.!! BEFORE THEY RAM THEIR GOV. HEALTH CONTROL YOU DOWN YOUR THROAT.!!! GOOD OLD HARRY, I AM SURE HE IS UP DAY AND NIGHT BEHIND CLOSE DOORS WORKING HARD ON FINAL VERBAGE AND DETAILS ON HOW HE’S GOING TO SLAM THE BIG ONE DOWN HARD ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.!!!. STAY TUNED . GOV. HEALTH CONTROL COMING TO YOU ALL OF MAN KIND , EVEN ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS.!!!!. OH DON’T WORRY GARUNTEED YOU GET TO PAY AT LEAST 2-3 TIMES MORE THAN YOU PAY NOW FOR THE BEST HEALTH CARE YOU CAN GET ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD. , OH BUT ITS A SHAME WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE UNINSURED , I AM EVEN ONE OF THEM.!! BUT THE LAST THING IN THE WORLD THAT I WANT IS GOVERNMENT TO TELL ME WHAT TO BUY OR WORSE , FORCE THEIR GOVERNMENT HEALTH CONTROL ON ME.!!. NO WAY NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DO I WANT THAT.!!!! I WOULD RATHER CONTINUE TO GO WITHOUT , BEFORE I GIVE UP MY RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF CHOICE.!!!.
        THIS STILL IS AMERICA THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.!!!!!!. ITS TIME WE ALL STAND UP TO THE DEMOCRATS AND TAKE BACK OUR FREE COUNTRY.!!!!!!!!!. BEFORE ITS TO LATE .!!! CALL YOUR SENATORS NOW.!!!!. GET INFO HERE – http://capwiz.com/cwf/home/
        STOP OSAMA OBAMA’S BANKRUPT AMERICA CAMPAIGN NOW.!!!!!.
        CALL YOUR SENATORS NOW AND TELL THEM WE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THERE ACTIONS.!!!!. TELL THEM THERE IS ONLY ONE CHOICE AND THAT IS TO VOTE NO NO NO NO NO ON ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT HEALTH CONTROL.!!!!!!.

        AMERICAN PATRIOT.

        • denniso

          NOW THAT’S TOO MUCH HOT AIR!!!

      • http://www.ProudlyMadeInAmerica.com ProuldlyMadeInAmerica

        I agree with some of what you are saying, but for much different reasons. As I post on my blog at ProudlyMadeInAmerica.com, we have to start focusing on building our domestic manufacturing back up. This task is not helped by a carbon tax or any other “green” legislation that kills our domestic production.

        U.S. manufacturers already average 1/3 less carbon emissions then similar manufacturers in China. In the steel industry, just bringing China inline with current U.S. standards would eclipse what a carbon tax would save.

        Investing in “green” energy is great if it creates jobs. But the stimulus is going to use money for a Texas wind farm which will result in 300 U.S. jobs and over 2000 Chinese manufacturing jobs. Switching to more nuclear, which the liberals fought against for decades, is now looking to be a popular “green” energy solution. Even with the waste disposal issue.
        In the end, investing in green technologies is only a good thing if it makes economic sense. That is dependent on the marketplace, so as long as people believe there is a problem we are fine. If as some point the people wake up and realize the problem is not what they thought, we will be in worse shape.

        • DaveH

          Good comment Proudly.

  • Bill

    Cap and Trade–Health Care–Stimulus… None of them are about their titles, they are all about controlling the people of USA. HR 45 is a must in order for them to accomplish effective and total control. Why are so many of us having such a difficult time seeing the truth?

    Face it there is something really wrong with any group that believes it is wrong to execute someone that purposefully kills victims while it is OK to murder innocent children.

    • s c

      Bill, these wackos are beyond moral and intellectual perversion. The next time you can tolerate being around an ultralib for more than 10 minutes, ask him, her or it how they can live with themselves when they finally realize that they could have been sacrificed on the abortion altar.
      How can we have such people in America? They see abortion as a moral imperative, but they can’t understand why the death sentence for proven slime is TRUE SOCIAL JUSTICE. So much for being ‘enlightened,’ eh? So much for false role models and icons. And so much for people who will believe anything that’s convenient and pc.

      • DaveH

        SC,
        It has been my experience that the most ignorant people are the most inclined to want to control the lives of others. One of nature’s oddities.

    • American Patriot

      BILL YOU ARE CORRECT IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROLING THE PEOPLE JUST AS SOON AS THEY GET THE NET NEWTRALITY BILL PASSED IT WILL BE THE END OF THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND THEN ALL OTHER LEGISLATION WILL BE PASSED WITHOUT EVEN A QUESTION OR THE DUE PROCESS OF DEMOCRACY.!!!!!. AMERICAL WILL HAVE NOTHING MORE THAN A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST LEFT WING MEDIA BEING THE ONLY VOICE OF THE MEDIA.!!!!.AMERICA WILL BECOME THE LAND OF RED COMMUNIST CHINA AND THE HOME OF THE SURPRESSED.!!!!. IT IS A CRYING SHAME THAT PEOPLE CAN NOT SEE WHATS COMING , ITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE TO SEE.!!!!!. THE FACT IS THE BLIND PEOPLE WILL BE LEAD TO THE SLAUGHTER FIRST , THE BLIND FLOCK OF SHEEP WILL BE LEAD TO THE CLIFF , WHERE THEY WILL JUMP TO THEIR DEATH.!!!!!. GOD HELP US ALL IF THE BLIND (SHEEP) PEOPLE DO NOT WAKE UP AND OPEN THERE EYES TO SEE WHAT THE FAR LEFT WACKO SOCIAL COMMUNIST LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ARE DOING TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY.!!! WAKE UP AMERICA.!!!!!. CALL YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM THAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.!!!! AMERICA IS AT A CROSS ROAD WE EITHER TURN FAR LEFT AND GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE INTO A SOCIALIST COMMUNIST STATE OR WE TAKE A RIGHT TURN AND TAKE BACK OUR FREE COUNTRY THAT IS UNDER ATTACK.???. WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE AMERICA.???.WAKE UP AMERICA AND LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD.!!! TELL THEM TO VOTE NO NO NO NO NO ON EVERYTHING THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO PASS.!!!!!.
      DO IT NOW .!!! TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE.!!!!.

      AMERICAN PATRIOT.

  • James

    I am suspicious of anything this President and Congress opt for!! Every time they meet, pass laws or programs, we the people loose more of our freedom. I think they are a self-serving bunch and have no heart about the future of America! God deliver us from our present Government!!

  • http://sitebloggs.com Chuckie

    Yes its one more step into government control of the people of the united states. But the problem is with the Media who tell the lies from the government who pay them to do so, where will all this lead us to is a Hitler state due to the FAQ that your congress has failed to keep the Oath Of Office they have sold you out let face it they their job they think they will keep it for life and some will!

    But it our job who that stand for Liberty freedoms to take back what belongs to the people of America some are at sleep. Until the government has the foot hold on this country and people are at the control of the government and have no more freedoms then they will wake up but it will be to late to do any thing to save one self from the evil hands of the congress and the Nut president that you put into office along with the ones who need to be hung by the nick until dead for acts of TREASON- any time a government1-the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
    2-a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state
    3-the betrayal of trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.

    So now you see we have a big problem in the USA today and now its time to make our move to send the pink slip to every one who have done the RAT Sale Out OF The USA.

    Now Go Play and do what’s right in your heart (Give us Liberty or Give Us Death), I choose life to be free as the constitution gives me this right.

  • http://coloyankee@yahoo.com Philip S. Polizzo SR,

    Kill this CAP AND TRADE BILL…NOW

    KILL THIS GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE BILL.. NOW

    COLOYANKEE@YAHOO.COM

  • ccg

    Write and call your Senators and Congressmen and tell them to kill them.

  • Beefcake

    Cap and trade is based on the non science of global warming, climate change, what ever.

    There i no scientific evidence to support this stupidity. Howevere, AlGore will become very rich. Any questions?

    • ccg

      What Cap and Trade is going to do is force us to send our manufacturing work to be done to a third world country that has no idea what it is to be concerned about pollution or so called global warming.

      I do not believe we are going through any such thing as global warming. I want to make that clear.

      These other countries have no laws pertaining to the keeping the earth clean or the waters clean, so just how is this supposed to help anything except the One World Government and us sharing our wealth like the UN said for us to do. I thought we already did share our wealth. We give money to almost every country there is, when there is a crisis we send food and workers. How are we not sharing the wealth?

      • CindyL

        ccg. Please be advised that 37 countries have banded together and have global warming laws. See link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_

        • ccg

          Cindy sweetie, just because 37 other countries have banded together and decided to eat nothing but frogs does not mean we have to do the same.

          We have had seasons of drought, seasons of rains, seasons of the weather getting warmer and seasons of the weather getting colder ever since God created this earth. We go through cycles all of the time.
          People are banking on and getting rich on something that not all of the scientists can even agree on.

        • DaveH

          Yes, Cindy, and in Aristotle’s time he was considered a wacko nut for proposing that the Earth was not flat.
          Pick up a copy of “Climates of Extremes” by Patrick J. Michaels and Robert C. Balling, Jr. and learn something.
          You can start by reading this article:
          http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html

        • denniso

          So Obama is forcing the rest of the world to fear the climate hoax??Most of the world and it’s scientists have looked at the evidence and concluded that there is a problem..but you geniuses,no science education except how gunpowder works,actually think you know better. Amazing!!!

          • DaveH

            Where do you get your info Double-Speaker? The fact is that Man-Made Global Warming has been promoted not by the world’s scientists but by the world’s politicians.
            Anybody can make statements. Where are your references?

          • DaveH

            And how would you know what my education is? You can read minds now, like you can predict future weather? Typical Double-Speaking Liberal.

      • denniso

        I still wonder where all this hate, tyrany and one world gov’t talk was when your buddy Bush was turning the screws in that direction..corporate control,tapping phones,surveiling,illegal war,etc. None of you want to draw any comparisons between Bush and Obama..is it just that you are ashamed that you supported such a tragic joke of a ‘president’??

        • ccg

          den, I didn’t like it when Bush did talk that way.

          Obama was supposed to be for “change.” He is not changing anything for the better though, he is just making it worse. He is wrong for our country.
          I didn’t want him to be a liar. I didn’t want him to associate with anti Americans. I didn’t want him to associate with Chicago thugs. I didn’t want him to associate with pedophiles.
          He cannot make any decisions. He is worse than Carter, and Carter was bad.
          I thought Hillary would have made the best Prez. out of the 3 that my state had any choice of.

          • denniso

            You ‘didn’t like it when Bush did talk that way’? I’ll wager you didn’t rant against him and try to impeach him for what he DID!!

        • DaveH

          I’ve not voted for a Republican president in my lifetime. I certainly would not vote for a Democrat at any level.
          Why is it that you Liberals have nothing better to offer than looking back at the past presidents? Yes the government grew under Bush. So what. Is that any excuse for the dramatic growth being experienced under Obama and the Democrat congressmen?
          Step away from the trough, take off your blinders, and do some real thinking.

          • ccg

            Dave, EXACTLY.
            What in the world does that have anything to do with the lousy man that everyone calls Prez. now. He can’t even make a decision on whether or not to send any more troops into Afghanistan, yet he claimed this was the right war to be in when he first started. What he is doing is allowing the troops that are over there now to get killed off. Oh yeah, he is some great piece of work all right.
            He is already asking for donations to fight for the Health Care Reform in the Senate after it passed the House last night. There goes more Socialism.

          • DaveH

            Here is our president in action. He gives his best academy award acceptance speech before he can get to the tragic events at Fort Hood. What would we do without this guy?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM

          • denniso

            You’re much smarter than I thought!!You’ve never voted for any president..you’ve only voted for fringe parties who have never been elected and can never been elected!!At least you haven’t voted Repub,thanks!

          • denniso

            DaveH..you’ve never voted for a prez canditate that could actually get elected,so you only vote for fringe canditates that never have won and can never win…at least you didn’t help Bush and Reagan trash our country,thanks for that. Keep voting for people who can’t get elected.

          • DaveH

            That’s right Denniso. I vote for candidates with Principle. My candidates want true freedom. They aren’t immoral redistributionist thieves like the people you vote for.
            How many ignorant people does it take to make one smart person?

          • DaveH

            By the way, unsupported statements, name-calling, and ridicule sure aren’t the hallmarks of an intelligent person.

  • Robert

    Let’s get real. There is no real opposition. It’s a smoke and mirrors game. Those saying they are against Cap and Trade are just positioning themselves to make back room deals in the future. Just look at what happen Saturday. Congress pass the Health Deform Bill. Now it goes to the Senate. You know there is going to be a lot of back room bargaining before it’s passed. This bum will get this and that bum will get that and so on and so on. As far as I’m concerned, our last hope is for a military coupe that would throw out all the politicians and put in place real Americans who believe in the constitution and the bill of rights. Do you think this is too extreme or just wishful thinking?

    • DaveH

      Not at all, Robert. Big Government is the problem, not the solution.

      • ccg

        And, we need term limits.

        • CindyL

          ccg, Sen. Demint has proposal to have term limits. Go to his web site.

    • CindyL

      Robert, looks as though no one will tell you, but advocating a military coupe for the overthrow of the US government is against the law. I wouldn’t keep doing that on any web site. How would you replace all the congressmen? Campaign election reform is needed to ensure that those you are replacing are not just replaced by the same kind, who can purchase their seat in congress. When you follow the money, it will take you right to the corruption and greed. It all starts with the corporations who back the candidate and can be traced right to the voting records of those who took money from them. Look at the healthcare donations to the Congressmen. They can’t be expected to vote against the hand that feeds them.

  • Vernon

    Lets get to the bottom of the problem, Listen to what they are saying I have in congress for fooortys years ain’t done nothing but spend your money I know I’m doing a good job because I keep getting elected!!!! TERM LIMITS ARE A MUST

  • American Patriot

    ROBERT YOUR ARE SO RIGHT IT IS TIME FOR A GOVERNMENT TAKE OVER JUST LIKE THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER AMERICA AND SURPRESS AND CONTROL ITS PEOPLE .!! BIG GOVERNMENT THAT CONTROLS ITS PEOPLE IS CALLED COMMUNISM A FREE GOVERNMENT SOCIETY IS WHEN THE PEOPLE RUN ITS GOVERNMENT , (*FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE*). NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.!!. ITS TIME WE TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.!!! WAKE UP AND STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. IF THIS HEALTH TORCHURE CONTROL GETS PASSED IT WILL BE THE END OF ALL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES IN THIS GREAT NATION.!!!!!!!!. WE MUST STOP IT NOW .!!!! CALL YOUR SENATORS EVERYDAY AND TELL THEM NO NO NO NO NEVER TO VOTE FOR THIS. AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR ACTIONS.. GET BEHIND THE REUBLICANS AND HELP FIGHT THIS HORRIFIC BILL THAT WILL END ALL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.!!!!!!!. YOU WILL HAVE NO FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS IF THIS ONE BILL GETS PASSED.!!! AND THE REBUBLICANS ARE STANDING UP AND FIGHTING TO KEEP THE CONSTITUTION RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FAR LEFT LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.!!!!. WE NEED TO STOP THIS HEALTH CARE HOAX AND STOP THE ATTACK ON THE ECONOMY AND CONSTITUTION OF OUR GREAT FREE COUNTRY.!!!! CALL YOUR SENATOR NOW .!! INFO HERE http://capwiz.com/cwf/home/

    AMERICAN PATRIOT.

  • chris

    Hey I just let one rip. I am guilty of global warming now? Man CO2 stinks!! I hope global warming is real because I live in Edmonton Alberta Canada and it gets really cold up here in the winter months. I could live with fewer less days of minus 40 weather!!

    • DaveH

      Chris,
      Just forty years ago they were anguishing over Global Cooling. I always figured that the truest test of government arrogance would be when they proposed to be able to control the weather.

  • Mark Martig

    The warmest temperatures recorded in the Artics was back in 1998. What proof is there of glomal warming?
    I don’t seem to think in Minnesota we are suffering from Global Warming during our winter months either. I’m getting tired of the liberals trying to take control of this country. You can’t reason with these people because they get so emotional about everything, yet very rarely have any real facts. Most of the time, the facts they do have do not apply to the point.

  • Mark Martig

    Robert, you are my friend…GOOD JOB AND WHAT YOU STAND FOR!!!!!!!!

  • MichaelK

    Recently Christopher Monckton, former Science Advisor to Prime Minister Thatcher, has presented an exquisite 90 minute talk with 100+ slides, details, facts, bibliography, etc. on contrarian science generated facts in opposition to Anthropogenic Climate Change — man caused Climate Change.

    The link below points to YouTube. If you can not find it – go to YouTube and search for the name and location I have listed below.

    Spend a few hours and become very well informed.

    Please check out Lord Christopher Monckton
    Title:
    “Updated with Slides – Lord Christopher Monckton Speaking in St. Paul”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zOXmJ4jd-8

    • denniso

      Monckton is a rightwing hack spouting rightwing pap!!! Don’t waste your time w/ the video.

  • ez

    i do believe we hurting the earth air but i dont think we should be the ones paying for the fixes by taxing us is the company responsibly to help also keeping our earth clean and PEOPLE should help by doing there part starting with no littering and using common sense for example Turning off water, light when not in use.

  • Bernie

    How about lets think about this whole thing on a spiritual level. GOD, the Creator, made this world we live in. Then He made our surroundings, oceans and plants and animals, then He made us. He gave us freedoms to choose our paths, to voice our opinions. HE made all of this. Now God is in Heaven with His son, Jesus Christ, and us humans are the intelligent life forms, the stewards of this planet. It doesn’t matter if you believe in “global warming” or “climate change” or any of that. What matters is you don’t have to look far to see that we’re trashing it. There’s a patch of garbage bigger than Texas floating around in the Pacific ocean. There’s crap on the streets everywhere I look. We spew toxic fumes into the air. It doesn’t matter what you think of the overall effect of these gases, the question is, is it something you would like to breathe, or your children to breathe? This isn’t ours, this Earth we live on. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS A CRIME AGAINST THE CREATOR AND IT MUST STOP!!!!

  • ’53 Korean Vet

    Did your parents grow any ‘Idiots’-? Take our ‘Cap & Trade’ Test–see the Results-! Al Gore claims that Co2 Gas–caused ‘Global-Warming’-!
    In any Scientific Research Method, any Research-Observer in the World
    who repeats “a Science Experiment” is supposed to get “Same Results” each time, no matter who does the Experiment-! So here’s the Easy Research that anyone can do– About 3 pm–afternoon, on a summer day–Go to a Shopping Center Parking Lot, paved by “Black-Asphalt”-!
    (Bring an oil-ointment for burns with you-!) Take off your Shoes & socks, now ‘walk’ about 30 yds,”Bare-Footed” on the Hot Asphalt & keep
    waving your right hand quickly through the Air, trying to contact as much Co2 Gas as you can–while you walk-! (Of course, you can’t see the Co2 Gas, & can’t separate it from the Air–but it’s there–in the air around you-!) Now, let your nerves tell you–what body-part got burned-! Was it your Hand, that you waved through the Air-!? No-!? Then you found that the Co2 Gas had very little effect-! How about your FEET-!? Aren’t you glad you didn’t research a longer distance-!?
    (If there are any Idiots–they are ‘Free’ to retake the Experiment-!)
    Now–about the Co2 Gas, it can be compressed into a small pressure container–the size of a ‘Plum’–but ‘this’ WILL NOT HEAT a room-area
    in a House-! We had small Fire Extinguishers–about Coke Bottle size, if you push the ‘Trigger’–the clear Co2 suddenly rushes out, & you will see “Frost” that forms on the nozzle’! IT means that Co2 cools–
    not Heats the Air-! Read any High-School Chemistry Book–Composition of Air .031 of 1%=Co2 Gas.(Note–you can triple the amount of Co2 Gas & still not have 1/10 of 1%-!) We have just used “Common-Sense” of “Scientific Research” to prove that Al Gore Published a Hoax-!!
    There are over 5.7 million miles of paved Highways, & City Streets in the U.S.–not counting all our “Black-Asphalt” paved parking-Lots-!The rolled paving is over 6″ thick, because Cars & Trucks drive on them-! There’s enough Asphalt-Paving to completely cover the State of IOWA, which has 56,274 sq. miles of area-! So–15% of our U.S. Area-! That 6 inch Thickness provides a ‘Weight-Mass’ needed for a ‘hot-sun’ to heat up the temperature of the asphalt–up to a point, well-past another 30 degrees, where the surrounding ground & air, will get a temp-rise of over 1 degree for world Global Warming Change-! But it wasn’t the Co2 Gas that did IT–it was the Billions of Tons of Solid Carbon-Asphalt–that DID IT-! Obama wants to ‘Tax the Co2 Gas’ and then, it trickles down to the consumer of Electric & Gas Companies, & when they pay these Billion Dollar Fines–it goes down to citizen Tax-payers, who make less than $80,000 per year, who get our Gas & Elec. Bills–Doubled-! Plus, Electric Canning Plants of Food Companies–get their costs doubled, so Tax-Payers now pay for much higher Food-Costs!
    You’re having your ‘hidden-taxes’ raised–he’s Lied to you, AGAIN-!! Do you understand “Suckers”–He’s gotcha “Coming & Going”-! And he’s already said, “I won’t reduce these Co2 emissions, but I will “Tax” them-!! Are we–voters, all that Dumb-!? How did you like your Research-Experiment-!? I’m sure that your nerves told you the Truth– every time, your feet got burned–but your Hand Didn’t-! “Don’t DO THE TALK–unless YOU DO THE WALK-!!” Get a Friend to do it with you-! You want people to “CHANGE”–What Idiots did we elect to Wash D.C.-!?
    Maybe–they’re not the “Idiots”–maybe, WE ARE-! Don’t let other people tell you what’s right or Wrong–use Common-Sense to find out-! It doesn’t cost you anything to know the Truth! It’s right there in front of you–& it’s Free-!! Your “Nerves” & your ‘Pocket-book’ will tell you the Truth-!!

  • http://none philip biggins

    Anyone know how you INCREASE the GROWTH of plants? INCREASE THE AVAILABLE CO2 and plants FLOURISH and the (apparently the unfortunate side effect of increased plant growth is MORE OXYGEN PRODUCED BY THE PLANTS) What a scary scenario that must be to the “Geniuses” who came up with this plan which is REALLY DESIGNED to create a GLOBAL REGULATION that is the BIGGEST TAX GRAB IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!! It also is the first step to ONE WORLD ORDER which is an absolutely true and verifiable FACT!!!! WAKE UP FOLKS!!!! Oh yes! I see OBAMA has kept exactly NONE of his campaign promises and the “bought and paid for Obama” has INCREASED military spending to NEW HEIGHTS! Not bad for a liar who campaigned to “bring our troops home! Get out of wars we shouldn’t be in!” and the rest of his BS!!! The banks OWN Obama!!! That is another truth!!!!!!

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