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Barack Obama’s Crazy Claims

December 30, 2011 by  

Barack Obama’s Crazy Claims

I’m not going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.

No, for now I want to mention just two of his most recent assaults on the truth. I’m afraid they will set the tone for what may be the dirtiest political campaign in our country’s history. And considering some of the mudslinging we’ve witnessed in the past (remember the commercial for Lyndon B. Johnson in which a little girl picking petals off a daisy morphed into a mushroom cloud?), that’s saying something.

My latest “did he really say that?” moment came when Obama was interviewed by Steve Croft on “60 Minutes” a couple of weeks ago. My stomach isn’t strong enough for me to watch the show; I knew I’d read plenty about it afterward. But even I was surprised by the unbounded arrogance of the man occupying the Oval Office. Here is his preposterous claim:

I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president — with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln — just in terms of what we’ve gotten done in modern history.

How do you like them apples? Gee, guess it’s time to make room for a new face on Mount Rushmore. Clearly, Obama thinks he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread — “with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln.”

I knew the guy was an egomaniac, but I was surprised by how cavalier he has become about it. Given his colossal failures as President, you would think he would at least try to fake some humility.

Oh, right, he did admit that, “… when it comes to the economy, we’ve got a lot more work to do.” Please, Mr. President, for the sake of all of us, don’t do any more “work” on the economy. You’ve done enough damage as it is.

Obama’s performance on “60 Minutes” was just embarrassingly immodest compared to his all-out assault on the truth two weeks earlier, when he officially launched his re-election campaign. That speech, which has become known as the Kansas Declaration, was so filled with misstatements that The Washington Post gave it three out of four “Pinocchios” for “significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions.”

One of his most outrageous whoppers was that his stimulus program has been an outstanding success. After all, he claimed, it helped create 3 million new jobs.

While it may be technically true that 3 million new jobs have been created in this country since Obama took office, what he didn’t mention is that more than five million jobs have been lost in the same time period. So the net effect is that there are 2 million more people unemployed than there were at the beginning of his Administration.

For a moment, though, let’s accept Obama’s numbers. And his claim, which is patently absurd, that his administration deserves the credit for every single new job in this country.

Obama’s stimulus program has cost U.S. taxpayers about $800 billion. That means each new job cost $266,667 to create.

With the average new job paying about one-fifth that amount, one has to wonder: Where did the other $220,000 per job go? Why, to line the pockets and pad the budgets of the folks dispersing the money, of course. Despite all of the efforts by Washington to subsidize solar power and other “green” energy, the only growth industry in the United States this decade has been government. Oh, and government-supported unions, of course.

Glenn Kessler, The Washington Post’s official fact-checker, cited another gross distortion in the President’s speech: Obama’s crusade for what he calls “fairness.” He quotes the President as declaring, “Some billionaires have a tax rate as low as 1 percent — 1 percent. That is the height of unfairness.”

When pressed for evidence that there is even one billionaire in this country who paid just 1 percent in taxes, the White House couldn’t find any. The only evidence the White House offered was a clip from some TV program.

An unsubstantiated remark by some talking head on some TV show became the basis for national policy and another blatantly political and incredibly dishonest speech by our President. Isn’t that wonderful?

Obama’s re-election committee says it plans to raise more than $1 billion for the campaign. Since he can’t possibly run on his record, most of that money will be spent attacking and smearing his opponent. The Republican nominee is going to get hit by a $750 million wrecking ball.

Let’s hope enough voters see through the smears, lies and deliberate obfuscations. It won’t take much to tip the scale one way or the other. We know that almost half of the voters in this country don’t pay a penny in taxes. As net recipients of much of Obama’s largesse (with our money, of course), you know they will support the Democrats, no matter what.

Of course, the passionate opposition is almost as large. Polls continue to show that 45 percent of voters will vote for anyone other than Obama. (Count me among them.)

That leaves 10 percent in the middle who will decide the election. If you’re reading this column, I’m guessing you’re not among them. But surely some of your friends and acquaintances are. What are you doing to win them over?

Getting them to subscribe to Personal Liberty Digest™ would be a very good start.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • s c

    Chip, Chicago’s singular ‘gift’ to schizophrenic politics can always claim to be God [not 'a' god, but THE God]. I wouldn’t recommend it. But, you know how some people are when they get certain things into their heads. Making ‘that’ claim may be the only thing he hasn’t tried – yet.
    I’d gladly settle for some PROOF that he serves a constructive, practical purpose and that “somehow” America will be better or safer or intact when he has to exit the W H by the back door. Is that asking too much?

    • Flashy

      Notice Chip said he would list all the lies he could as he claims were stated by President Obama.

      ummmm..he cited two. Wow…

      The first was the 3 million new job creation. And even Chip grudgingly admitted it was not false. As we all know, at the time he was sworn in, we were losing almost a million jobs a month. A million.

      The Stimulus was passed, and the curve turned around. In other words, add in the fact that the hemmoraging of lost jobs was stopped. notice that whenever a new project opened in a state…how many of those members of the GOP who scream about the stimulus being a waste….why, they were right there jockeying for front position in the photo ops…and, in a great show of hypocrasy, were sending out notices to the voters TAKING credit for bringing jobs to their area !

      Now granted, Obama could have gone the economic path which the Right and the GOP espoused. Worked darn well for Hoover didn’t it. For that was the situation Hoover faced and his policies did not halt the slide into the Depression…it greased the rails hastening the decline.

      i’d say with the jobs saved, the heavy manufacturing base of the auto industry saved, the jobs saved and those created, as well as the laid off who went to school for retraining are now coming into the workforce better eductaed and trained for the 21st Century…and in light of the constant barrage, obstructions and lies from the Party of No…who stated from the beginning they wren’t interested in our nation’s well being…but only to put someone in the WH who would continue the attack on America’s Middle Class and working folks..

      Dam* good job Mr. President.

      As to the 1% billionaire tax payments? I do not doubt it, but difficult to prove as tax returns are not for public scrutiny unless released by that taxpayer…and I doubt the wealthy will want their taxes scrutinized to any extent. So it cannot be proven nor disproven. We do know that more than a few corporations paid zero taxes…and some received monies on top of zero taxation. That in light of the false claim US corporations are amongst the most heavily taxed in the world (that line is so funny, it is difficult anyone with an IQ above 10 believes it)

      So …ummm….I’d say Chip stated two he claimed were lies. And neither are.

      LOL …. there ya go folks.

      • Patrick

        You *really* do try out there, don’t you?

        • Flashy

          Patrick…it’s easy when all i have to do is cite facts and be honest about everything. It’s those who want to drag down this administration and instead support the American taliban and the Party of No that have a difficult time without lies, deceit, and twisting of fact, and refusal to think independently without being told what to think.

          • FreedomFighter

            Slow Kill Holocaust: Proof the Government is Killing You

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCpMilUtdI&feature=uploademail

            Did globilist Obama tell you about this Flashy? Obviously he loves you.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Warrior

            16 Tril in debt = Failure
            SS = Failure
            Medicade = Failure
            Medicare = Failure
            Dept of Energy = Failure
            Dept of Edumacation = Failure
            Affordable Housing = Failure
            Dept of Justice = Failure
            Subsidies = Failure
            Tax Code = Failure
            War on Drugs = Failure
            War on Poverty = Failure
            Foreign Policy = Failure

            And the list of gubmint program failures goes on and on.

            Why in the world would anyone think that a program like “obamacare” will be successful given this track record?

            I say, give most of the new office holders elected in 2010 some much needed support (obviously some have been co-opted)and throw out the trash that was collected before that time. These useless idiots ARE and will continue to be the problem.

            Ron Paul’s foreign policies are somehow viewed as “radical”? Are you kidding me? How would you feel if a foreign country set up military bases on US soil? Stop creating boogie men to serve your expansionist tendencies. It’s been tried throughout history and has always led to the demise of EVERY EMPIRE!

            Get the hell out of this dem/repub paradigm and think about your personal liberty. This is the only way America will ever survive.

          • ValDM

            Flushy,
            You keep referring to the party of NO. The tables have turned on that particular expression, or if you would prefer “that’s so 46 seconds ago” according to the latest 4G commercials. The fact is that the Senate is dominated by the Dims, & they haven’t done anything but table practically EVERY piece of legislation that comes their way. Get yourself a new slogan about the party of NO, because “that’s so last year.”

          • DaveH

            Citing facts, Flashman? We’ve exposed at least two of your lies just on this board. No telling how many more. I get tired of reading your lying comments.

          • skyhigh1030

            Flashy keep listening to the messiah (Obama I mean really) He will do everything he can to convert the free and great United States to Socialism. I will be glad when I see Obama and his racist buddy Holder holding nands as they walk down Pennsylvania Ave fro the last time. GOOD RIDENCE

          • JC

            Flashy says:

            December 30, 2011 at 7:50 am

            Patrick…it’s easy when all i have to do is cite facts and be honest about everything.
            ______________________________________________________

            Honest about everything? Give me a break you are in the top 3 spinners of propoganda who troll on this site.
            Your deity is not even eligible to hold the office let alone behave like an American patriot. Nope, your man is nothing but conflicted statements and outright lies.

            Lies During Third Year

            Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
            Examiner

            Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
            Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11

            I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.

            American.com

            USA producing more oil than ever before
            Petroleum Insights

            Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
            Department of Homeland Security says 5%

            Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
            National Taxpayers Union

            Lies During Second Year

            No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
            Obama Lies to Keep Czars

            No “boots” on the ground Libya
            Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

            Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
            Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

            All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
            Obama Memo

            I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
            Obama’s Schedule

            The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
            Campaign and Presidency

            If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
            TownHall

            “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
            U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

            ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
            Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

            We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
            Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

            Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
            Arizona Immigration Law

            Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
            Claims never documented

            The Health Care Package will pay for itself
            Time

            Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
            Hmm Immigration?

            We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
            Democratic Debate Lies

            I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
            Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

            I got the Message from Massachusetts
            Daily Bail

            Lies During First Year

            We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
            AP fact Checker

            Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
            AP fact Checker

            Collective salvation
            Obama calls himself a Christian

            I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
            Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

            Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
            Associated Press Video

            Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
            Obama Lies

            As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
            ABC

            Recovery Act will save or create jobs
            ABC News

            Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
            Obama Lies

            No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
            CNN

            I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
            Specator.Org

            We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
            Obama Lies

            I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
            NPR

            Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
            Council on Foreign Relations.

            Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
            Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
            List of Tax Promise Violations

            2008 Campaign Lies

            My Parents met in the march on Selba
            Obama was born 4 years before they met?

            Take our nuclear weapons off hair-trigger alert
            ArmsControl.org – “the current alert posture … should not be changed”

            Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
            News Busters

            I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
            United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

            Obama campaign would accept public funding
            ABC

            Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
            A Socialist

            Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
            Mounting Heath Care Lies

            Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
            Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

            Would have the most transparent administration in History
            Cato Institute

            We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
            Boston Globe

            I have visited all 57 states.
            Snopes

            I’ll get rid of earmarks
            Source: Any bill passed during presidency

            When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
            Campaign Speech

            My father served in World War II.
            The Videos and the Facts

            Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
            News Video

            Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
            YouTube

            Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
            He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

            Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
            NPR

            I Won Michigan
            Huffington Post

            I won Nevada
            The Nation

            I don’t Have Lobbyists
            US News

            My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
            Crooks and Liars

            I Have Always Been Against Iraq
            Washington Post

            My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
            CNN

            Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
            Obama Campaign Video

            I Barely Know Rezko
            Sun Times

            My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
            ABC News

            And on and on…

          • JC

            They all do it, so there’s no point defending the annointed one.
            Remove ALL Globalists from these United States!

          • Lastmanstanding

            my only reply is to state that those above me have said it all…and probably more…

            God bless all of you…vote Ron Paul 2012!

          • Jaime Dub C
          • Old Henry

            FreedomFighter:

            Thank you for the link. I passed it on to many others including my Congressman.

          • wildmann

            Hey Flashy, go get yo Baby Mama an’ get to the Welfare Office, Yo Check’s waitin’! Then go get yo SSI. Crazy money. Only a HARD CORE Recipient 47%er believes the B/S that The “Kenyan Kommie Klown” Usurper and his Lap-Dog Senate spew!

          • EnoughStupidity

            Yea …you spouted facts, but even in a court of law facts are not always the truth!!!! Truth always rises to the top and will eventually be revealed. One Truth is how many are out there that will not be counted because they used up all their unemployment time???? Cause I have a client who is in that condition and went to school with Mrs. President.

          • JC

            And a couple of my personal favorites from the Kenyan Usurper:

            “2008: ‘Navy Seal Team 6 is Cheney’s private assassination team.’
            “2011: ‘I put together Seal Team 6 to take out Bin Laden.’

            “2008: ‘Bin Laden is innocent until proven guilty, and must be captured alive and given a fair trial.’
            “2011: ‘I authorized Seal Team 6 to kill Bin Laden.’

            “2008: ‘Guantanamo is entirely unnecessary, and the detainees should not be interrogated.’
            “2011: ‘Vital intelligence was obtained from Guantanamo detainees that led to our locating Bin Laden.’

          • shibamom

            You, Flashy, are a complete putz!!

          • daniel

            Gee Flashy you sure got quiet after a few more of O’s lies. You will have to do better if you are trying for the position of Press Secretary.

          • USAF VET

            Flashy, it appears that you don’t read everything. Most of those “Obama Stimulus” jobs, were Government jobs, and most of the money went into the pockets of the unions and their people. And while there were 3 million jobs created, there were 5 million jobs lost. Where do you get a plus out of that? Only a liberal and their fuzzy math can come up with that.

          • ANNE

            FLASHY: You must be a liberal, they are the only ones that think Obama is better than sex. Obama so many lies and then he tells more lies to cover up the ones he has already told. You need to stop with the smoking that wacky stuff.

          • George says “What????

            Sorry Chip, you didn’t even watch the show. What happened to “know thy enemy”? Well, we know which way to lien and I would suggest you get up off the floor because you’ve fallen over.
            I think we have made some progress. At the end of the last administration we were in dead fall economically. We had yet to capture the most notorious criminal to commit a mass murder in America. He killed more Americans than all the serial killers combined. They threw tens and hundreds of billions of dollars at the problem while decreasing revenues running massive deficits. Obama got us a 2 for 1 deal. Just for the facts the CIA guys a Guantanamo have confirmed the information that lead to the death did not come from waterboarding in a congressional hearing and Kaddafi was killed by Nato forces which are 80% made up of US forces. So I say kudos to our young men and women who serve our country in this capacity.
            With regards to the 4-5 million jobs lost you are being a little factually incorrect. Those jobs were in sharp fall and it started at just before the end of the last administration and continued for a period in the new. About 6 months! What you are suggesting is that by purely being there it should have come to a stop and we all know that is not truthful. But if you look at the bottom of the dead fall there is a sharp change in the trajectory. Granted it was flat and no up at that point but we were no longer hemorrhaging jobs. We have seen a progression upward over the last 2.5 years.
            With regards to the cost to Americans, shame on you again, had Bush and the conservative congress at the time not ramp spending and cut taxes we would not have a deficit. Clinton had us on a reduction that would have put us a $0 at the end of the Bush dynasty. He added $10T to where we would have been, $5T if you lean right and only want to only count the added deficit and not the direction or change in spending.
            And spare me the BS that the rich pay it all. They don’t pay nearly there share. If you compare all taxes paid (State, local, Federal, Sales, Social Security, Medicare, and others) the 2% of the people who make 85% of the GDP only pay 60% of the taxes. The other 40% are the 98%. I can tell you my tax rate is around 25% if you include all taxes. They may not have a true 1% literally, but maybe some 2%, a few more 3% more 4%, etc…. and I would guess the distribution is bell shaped and starts pretty low. The real point is there are Americans paying squat who should be paying a lot more.
            As for dishonest speeches that stink of untruth, have you smelled the line up at the Iowa caucus for a 2012 Republican President. There is a lot of “Santorum” on that stage. Feel free to google it.

          • DavidL

            Flashy….

            Hit the nail on the head with both statements. Way to go! Unfortunately with much of the crowd writing on this site, including the author of this article(conservatives?), their extreme partisanship has blinded them to the point of psychosis. They are so fact-challenged that they no longer recognize reality.

          • David Jackson

            Wow. How much of that Kool-Aid did you drink, Flashy?

          • Ronald R. Johnson

            Flashy, almost sounds like we are talking about Obama! Just be sure when Obama is ready to pass out the KOOL ADE to all you Cult Members you are first in line and take two cups!

          • http://GodHelp Holy Terror

            Warrior and Freedom Fighter, I agree,this seem to be the only site I can vent on. My faith have taken me to deep to see it any other way, One scripture states we wrestle not against flesh in blood but against rulers and principalities in high places. and that sums up the government and every evil enitities. As they hang out in their satelites and advanced technology committing treason and espionage against every citizen the uphold the truth. Only to bring down our nation to their depraved and demented level of ignorance. they are.

        • Patrick M

          If only every *Loving Progressive Liberal *would have read the book by David Freddossa written long before the 2/08 election about the Ptesidemt of Record OZ Obama they o huld lready know all that mister liar liar pants on fire has done and will do until people quit lying for him and get someone who can look into acamera and twll the teuth. I pray daily for this president for some real hpnestegarding any of these so called accomplishmemts.

          • Lastmanstanding

            PM…they are not interested in facts…they are only interested in living large at the expense of others, using the gullible for votes to stay in power and believing that they will be exempt from “the rest of us.”

      • Lueder

        Maybe you should re-read the article again. Chip never said that he would list all of the occupier of the White House lies. “I’m NOT going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.” (emphasis added)

        I would ask, where have these 3 million jobs been added? In government or in the private sector? I am pretty sure (sorry, no source documentation) that the bulk of them are government jobs. Government jobs do not provide a tax base, they draw from it. A government worker is a leach on society, they do not contribute to the economy. You see, they take out much more than they put in. Are some government workers necessary? You bet, just as administration positions are necessary to a sales company. But do those administration positions bring in revenue? No, anymore than a government position does. But if all a company has is administration positions, there won’t be a whole lot of revenue coming in to keep the company (country) solvent. It really is a simple “DUH” in economics.

        Obama lies so much that I don’t think even he knows the truth anymore. He is an evil man and needs to go back to the rock he crawled out from under.

        • Flashy

          Actually, in the past two years the number of employees working for government has dropped. Had government kept those employed, the job numbers would have been much better.

          • DaveH

            Did you see what Leuder said, Flashman? He called you on your lie that Chip said he would list all the lies. And like most Liberals instead of admitting your lie, you changed the subject.

          • George E

            Flashy,

            So, after creating or saving all those good government jobs with the $800B stimulus money, many of these jobs have gone away in the end, and we’re still stuck with the $800B debt. That might have sounded like a good plan to some in the beginning, but I don’t see how any objective observer can say in hindsight that it turned out well. If we had kept all these government workers employed as you suggest, we would likely have simply increased this debt even more and they would have been laid off anyway when the money ran out. There are better ways to stimulate the economy and create jobs.

          • Snowy

            Personally I think he needs to go back to school and retake some basic classes. Since when are there 57 states in the U.S. and when did Hawaii become part of Asia? Those are just a few of his misstatements. A child in 3rd grade should know what the actual numbers and areas are and he (Obama) doesn’t?

          • big wyo

            facts flushy facts you said so dont get it.

          • Aurelio

            Either you read the news upside down, or much worse; you belong to that group of people victims of a terrible medical malpractice when doctors, mistakenly, dumped the baby at the time of birth and raised the placenta instead. Truth needs no defense, lies do.

        • Ms. Finney

          Lueder,

          If you want revenue, how about adding that 3% surtax on millionaires and billionaires for starters, that would add to the coffers don’t ya think?

          • George E

            Ms. Finney,

            Your question sounds logical and reasonable at first glance. Let’s look a little closer.

            Would you put that surcharge on wages? If so, you wouldn’t collect much because most people in this high income bracket get their income from investments, not wages. So, to extract more money from these folks you have to increase taxes on investment income, and that’s where jobs are created. “Shooting” at these folks using this “bullet” simply ensures you will hit yourself in the foot. Taxing income from wages simply hurts the working folks, not the ultra wealthy. And since it’s difficult to get a hard and fast definition of “wealthy” from our politicians, you can be pretty sure the definition will flex lower to any level they want in order to get more tax revenue, and you can be certain that most of that money will come from people who have to work for a living. Is that what you want?

          • Flashy

            George;

            let’s examine your statement that a 3% increase in the upper income tax brackets would hurt investments. Can you point to any era where such did so? Certainly not the Clinton years. Seems we were making out pretty good during the 90′s…and taxes on the wealthy were higher.

            Can you state where a tax on income of 3% would hurt investments when those in the higher tax brackets park the money in a fund or investment pool and have no input in the investment?

            And as far as jobs….if there aren’t people employed making money to buy the product and thus cause need to increase production, how does that create jobs?

          • Old Henry

            Ms. Finney:

            Here is a better idea.

            Let’s tax all politicians, Democrats and liberals at 90%. They love taxing and making sure the rich pay their fair share so they would not mind at all.

            We could also begin taxing the 47%er leaches so they have, as Little Barry likes to say, some skin in the game.

          • Karolyn

            OH – Why did you say “tax all politicians.” “Democrats and liberals”?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Your Envy is showing. Don’t you wish you could get that far and earn the millions and billions? Instead you would like to make sure that no one gets to earn and keep those millions and billions because You can’t earn them.

          • eddie47d

            Why would anybody Envy tax scammers and cheats who achieved their loot through defrauding the American people. Get a grip Nads!

          • George E

            Flashy,

            You can increase the tax rate on high income individuals if you want, but you will not get much money from the ultra wealthy like you think because they don’t have to work for an income. They get most of their income through returns on investment, and if you increase the capital gains tax to get at that income, you’ll hurt more people than the ultra wealthy because a lot of folks nowadays invest money. So, while you may think taxing the rich is a good idea, it just doesn’t work. Here’s a source that explains the benefits of lowering capital gains tax rates better than I can. http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/capgain/capgain.htm. We have evidence that lowering tax rates can increase tax revenue by stimulating economic growth. Witness what happened to tax revenues after tax rate reductions by JFK, Reagan, and GWB. Obviously, there has to be a point where tax rates can be lowered too much, but I don’t think we’ve seen that point yet. Tax revenue increased during the Clinton administration as well even though tax rates weren’t lowered. This can be attributed to the fact that we had strong economic growth during that period in spite of the higher tax rates. I’m pretty sure you won’t find many times in the past where increasing tax rates stimulated economic growth and increased tax revenue. The 1990′s was somewhat unusual in that respect, so please don’t be confused that there is a positive relation between higher tax rates and accelerated economic growth.

          • Old Henry

            Karolyn:

            I guess my keyboard made a mistake in the verbiage. It is now Sunday evening so I am not completely sure of exactly how it should have read, but how about this.

            Let’s tax all politicians, be they Democrats, liberals or RINOs at 90%. They love taxing and making sure the “rich” pay their fair share so they would not mind at all.

        • skyhigh1030

          Right on mr Lueder

        • MRMO

          I THINK THAT WHEN EVER OBUMMER TALKS THEY SHOULD TAKE AWAY HIS PROMPTER, HOOK HIM UP TO A POLYGRAPH AND RUN IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TV SCREEN FOR ALL TO SEE HOW MUCH TRUTH IS COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH. I THINK HIS SUPPORTERS WOULD BE AMAZED .

          • Old Henry

            MRMO:

            LOL! That is a fabulous idea! What a mental picture that presents!

          • Karolyn

            Better yet, why not have all the Republican candidates hooked up to lie detectors?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Os’ supporters do not know or care that anything that is said by him is all lies.

          • eddie47d

            I would love to see more Republican ads be put to the truth test. It’s easy to rip them apart in all their lies.

          • Dennis48e

            “I would love to see more Republican ads be put to the truth test. It’s easy to rip them apart in all their lies.”

            It is even easier to rip the lies in your posts to shreds e4ddie.

        • Old Henry

          Better yet Lueder Little Barry the Communist Kenyan should be breaking rocks at Leavenworth. That would keep him healthy while he awaits the rope.

      • hipshotpercusion

        Hey flashy. Got anymore of those excellent drugs you’ve been using this morning?

        NoBama never again!

        • Bill

          BUSH: Iraq caused 911, Iraq has WMD, The war in Iraq is won, etc, etc,…………….

          • DaveH

            Duh, Bill, Bush was a bad president, we know that. Now take some smelling salts, Bill, and wake up. Obama’s been President now for 3 years.

          • skyhigh1030

            Mr Bill another liberal idiot that wounldnt have correct fact if it bit him in the ass!!!!!

          • JC

            Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush,
            if that doesn’t work, point yell Racist!

          • talkinbout

            Be carefull JC, the left could easily say the same thing, ie: blame Obama, blame Obama, blame Obama and if that doesn’t work, yell Communist.

          • JC

            Thanks for the warning, but I’m way beyond caring what the left and a lot of the right thinks about anything. I want Constitutional Government and anyone who is against that is an enemy of the nation, period. :)

          • Winston Smith

            So, the other Hussein had NO WMD’s? We know this because … he blocked, stalled, intimidated and spoon-fed the UN Inspectors for MONTHS! And when they were finally able to peek here and there they found none. Therefore, he had none! There’s about EIGHT THOUSAND Kurds who might want to disagree – IF Hussein hadn’t MURDERED THEM WITH WMD’s!
            Just sayin’.

          • JC

            Winston, where did Hussein get those WMD’s?
            And isn’t it amazing that the Un and the Clinton
            administration stood idly by while tose Kurds were
            being gassed?
            Just sayin…

          • eddie47d

            CLINTON? The Kurds were gassed in 1988. Better do your homework and even then it was during the Iran-Iraq War. As awful as that was it was collateral damage of that war not a deliberate attempt to kill Kurds. Both sides were lobbing gas at each other.

          • JC

            Doing some checking eddie, so far I stand corrected.
            Seems most of those sad events happend on Geo. Sr’s watch.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            “Seems most of those sad events happend on Geo. Sr’s watch.”

            Doesn’t matter when it happened it was a deliberate action against the Kurds not collateral damage as eddie claims.

          • JC

            That is true Buster.

          • Old Henry

            As I recollect JC / eddie, after Desert Storm was completed and Hussein Sr. was left in power old man Bush promised the Kurds we would give them support in the form of arms to fight the Hussein Sr.

            He then left them high and dry to be mass-murdered.

        • AVCurmudgeon

          hipshotpercussion! Man, does that take me back. Good ol’ Rick O’Shay, Deuces Wilde and the rest of the boys. Good times.

          • Old Henry

            Yep AV, the Sunday Chi Ka Go Trubune was the first thing I did after getting home from church. Great comic strip. Mort Gage the Banker.

            I remember one “episode” where Hipshot was practicing with his 6 gun and continually missed the target. He went back inside and came out with a shot gun. KABOOM! He got the target and simply said: “Sometimes success is just having the right tool”. LOL!

      • Skychief

        Ok Flashy, Here’s a few. Cut deficit in half first term, healthcare debates on CSPAN, Bills on internet for two weeks before a vote, no lobbyists in his administration, bombing Libya is in our vital interests, transparent, close Gitmo (which I’m glad he didn’t), open up drilling, secure our borders, and reach across the ailse to Republicans. I could go on, but you will have an excuse and will not accept the truth about this man. Have to go to work now to help pay for half of this country doing nothing, would love to continue though, there are so many more lies to remind you of.

        • Ms. Finney

          Skychief,

          You have a heck of a lot of nerve calling half of the citizens’ in this country out because they don’t pay FEDERAL INCOME TAX. The reason they don’t is because they are near, at, or below the poverty line. Every red cent that they make goes right back into the economy creating demand which in turn creates jobs. By the way, where are all the jobs the republicans campaigned on in 2010? In spite of their obstuctionism, the economy is picking up as well as Obama’s approval rating and our President will be re-elected to continue to move this country forward.

          • skyhigh1030

            Finney get real everybody know matter what you earn should pay thier fair share Get a job and dont live on government handouts Its alright to get help but too many people live off of other peoples tax dollars much to long beating the system and not getting productive Pay it forward and be gratful for the helpmake the USA a better country and we owe no one an apology get rid of this president before its too late and hey you crybaby libs quit blaming Bush Obama did more damage in his first three years than all the Presidents in history put together

          • Linda n Texas

            Ms. Finney,

            Have another drink of the kool-aide or another suck on whatever weed you are smoking.

          • MRMO

            HOW THIS LADY IS SMOKEN SOME REAL GOOD STUFF….

          • Brad

            Ms. Finney,

            Please review this link http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/13/news/economy/poverty_rate_income/index.htm here you can see since Ohmama election the US poverty rate has grown exponentially. As for the poor and their spaending, after housing, utilities, basis necessities and food, they very little left for discretionary, they tend to save for a rainy day if they can. Where do they spend that creates those jobs you talk about, farming, soap manufacturers, tooth paste, what do they spend on that creates new jobs? Ms. Finney you can’t answer that question can you, but I can tell you thing that is true, the poor that do work and pay taxes get more in return then what they paid in, that’s throught the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit if they have children. That’s just on the federal level, the poor get more back from their state. I’m a good steward, I work pay my taxes both to the fed and local gov, I pay my property taxes and every single other tax the state and fed come up with, I have two kids a house and I might get 1/4 back of the total amount of taxes I pay in each and every year.

          • big wyo

            Finney, what country do you live in? Or what planet? His polls are so low again he can’t crawl under them and he is a snake.
            Let’s face facts WORST EVER not even close.
            He is far and away most hated Politian ever and he is not eligible

          • JC

            Obama’s approval rating is picking up? Where?
            I heard that even the Kenyans are now accusing him of being “American” lol

          • L. Clark

            boy-is finney in never-neverland or WHAT?

          • r k

            Ms. Finney

            You are absolutely right and this Repubs are nothing but without any brains.

          • George E

            Ms. Finney,

            First, money spent by non-taxpayers stimulates the economy when it’s earned productively. It hurts the economy if the money is taken (taxed) from productive (working) citizens. Productive citizens can usually put their money to work more productively than the government can/does.

            Second, fairness to me dictates that everyone should pay something toward funding the government. No one should get a free ride regardless how little income they have. Otherwise, why wouldn’t non-taxpayers vote for the taxpayers to pay more and more taxes to fund greater and greater benefits for the non-taxpayers? I also think only taxpayers should be allowed to vote for the same reason.

            Third, it’s pretty tough for one third of the government (House of Representatives) to get things done when the other two thirds (Senate and President) block every attempt by the first to make changes. That’s basically what’s been happening since 2010. The House of Representatives has, however, blocked any further attempts by the other two thirds from enacting more job stifling legislation like the carbon tax (global warming legislation) the Dems wanted, and helped to keep spending from going up even more than it did when the Democrats controlled all three branches of government. Unfortunately, they have not been able to do more to control spending and encourage job growth, but that should change as Republicans gain more control over these three branches.

      • wandamurline

        Obama may compare himself to Johnson, Lincoln and FDR because he is a lot like them. L.B. Johnson stole social security in 1964 when he took all the money that was in a safe, interest bearing account and threw it into the general fund, issuing bonds to social security…bonds that are completely worthless….that would sum up what Obama has done for the economy….stole tax dollars to bail out his political friends. Then Lincoln, or honest Abe…maybe not so honest….put people in jail without habeas corpus and after four years into the civil war decided to blame it on the abolition of slavery. Here we go with new regulations and the class warfare that Obama has started. Now, to the last, FDR….who created the welfare system and stole the gold that American citizens held in their possessions….Obama wants America to be a welfare state and has done his best to meet those requirements. Therefore, he could compare himself to these presidents….however, there is one president that he certainly cannot compare himself to and that would be George Washington, a real hero and someone who loved America enough to place his life on the line for it.

        • todd mobley

          WELL PUT ;)

        • skyhigh1030

          If they payed everything they stole from SS it wouldnt be in trouble By the way I SUPPORT THE KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE FLAT TAX AND TERM LIMITS

          • Old Henry

            Yep skyhigh1030. Term limits. One life term behind bars.

        • Rick H.

          BRAVO Now to all you liberal crybabies…put that in your pipe and smoke it.

          • Eileen Jones

            If you want to see a real bunch of liberal crybabies, Go anywhere on Huffington Post. Ihave more fun driving them crazy, than any one person shoud have. They hate Repubs., Tea Party people,and conservatives !!!!Join me, My comment name is joneseileen28…..The more , the merrier. Happy New Year to you all…

        • MRMO

          I THINK ONLY AROUND HALF THE MONEY HES STOLEN HAS GONE TO HIS BUDDIES, THE OTHER HALF IS TO BE DONATED TO HIS RE-ELECTION FUND. THAT WAY THE WHOLE COUNTRY BUYS HIS WAY TO HIS SECOND TERM, WEATHER WE WANT TO OR NOT..
          RON PAUL 2012

        • Old Henry

          Wanda:

          You overlooked one of FDR’s shining moments – his internment of American citizens of Japanese decent and then stealing their property. What a perfect role model for Little Barry the Communist Kenyan the the Democrats.

        • http://msb Al Pazdernik

          still true – IF HIS LIPS BE MOVEN – HE BE LIE-EN

        • David Hutchinson

          Are you and folks like you really prepared for a life without social services networks. How do you propose to take care of those in need. Are you proposing folks should fend for themselves. Then folks of your mindset should prepare for a bullet to the head because a fend for yourself world is not possible nor did the founding fathers. They wanted stability and control. Imagine if the slaves organised in a world of strict order. We now see what fend for yourself does in the Middle East. They kicked our buts in Iraq and Vietnam with sticks and stones. Take care of the people here and violent revolts won’t happen here.

          • John DeSoto

            None of what you say justifies theft by the government in order to provide anything the Constitution doesn’t authorize the government to provide, and the Supreme Court is not Constitutionally authorized to interpret the plain language of the Constitution. The Supreme Court is only authorized to determine whether or not laws are Constitutional. Government no longer has the consent of the people who pay for the government.

        • Peter

          ..agreed… one more point.. all government is police.. each and every government official to some extent is a policeman. Certainly, we need police to protect us; however, when they steal from the average taxpayer to pay their constituency.. the police become thieves.

        • Joe Berger

          I AM NO FRIENDS OF OBAMA.
          But I don’t want to blame him for those of our present economic problems that were created by Bush. It was Bush who under the guise of DEREGULATION allowed everyone to falsify their mortgage applications with total impunity….almost causing a world wide financial collapse. It was Bush who started to implement the necessary “bail out ” operations. It was Bush who allowed almost unretricted illegal immigration from Mexico. It was bush who exported many of our jobs to Asia.
          It was Bush who started those rediculous wars in Afghanistan and most rediculous of all … in Iraq. It was Bush who started the gigantic profligate spending and deficits.
          You are right the Democrats are foolish, but the Repubicans are worse.

          • John DeSoto

            Republicans and Democrats are 2 sides of the same corrupt group. There’s no real difference between them any more. Our only real hope is a return to Constitutional government.

        • MAURICE

          This give away of the tax payers money started long before this. President Franklin D. Roosevelt stole our gold in 1933 and gave it to the FED. which is, An un-constitutional banking cartel who are no more Federal than FedEx,Federal trucking company,or Federal can company, but in name only. If you don’t believe that, check your history book, “the first 100 days” And read you Constitution. So the answer to the huge Debt limit, ($15 trillion and climbing every minute, daily. The answer to the controversy is spelled out right there in the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8. “The duties of the Congress” No where in this Constitution does it give Congress the authority to delegate the power “to coin money and regulate the value there or”.
          But, there is only one candidate, Republican or Democrat, who understands that, nor who is trying to do something and that is RON PAUL. The answer is simple. FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION,AND ABOLISH THIS OUTLAW FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS!!!!.

          • John DeSoto

            I agree, Ron Paul is our only chance to return to the confines of the Constitutional Republic the Founding Fathers formed for us. The only real arguments given against him are that he’s an isolationist, which is patently false. He believes in non-intervention which is completely different from isolationism.

        • sting45

          December 30, 2011 at 8:02 am
          Obama may compare himself to Johnson, Lincoln and FDR because he is a lot like them. L.B. Johnson stole social security in 1964 when he took all the money that was in a safe, interest bearing account and threw it into the general fund, issuing bonds to social security…bonds that are completely worthless….that would sum up what Obama has done for the economy….stole tax dollars to bail out his political friends. Then Lincoln, or honest Abe…maybe not so honest….put people in jail without habeas corpus and after four years into the civil war decided to blame it on the abolition of slavery. Here we go with new regulations and the class warfare that Obama has started. Now, to the last, FDR….who created the welfare system and stole the gold that American citizens held in their possessions….Obama wants America to be a welfare state and has done his best to meet those requirements. Therefore, he could compare himself to these presidents….however, there is one president that he certainly cannot compare himself to and that would be George Washington, a real hero and someone who loved America enough to place his life on the line for it.

          I agree with most of what you have said here, but Good ol’ George?

          George Washington was a theif and a liar ! He claimed thousands of prime acres of this country for himself, falsafied intel. to his armys in order to destroy the indians and make his property more sellable, cheated the companys that were paying him to survey and claim property for them and this list could go on and on. The highest office in this country has always been corrupt from the very beginning . The only good things that have come from the beginning is the constitution, bill of rights, etc.. We must protect those laws of or once great nation !
          Mr Obama should not even be in the same paragraph as any of these people. He hates this country, our laws, our constitution, and our way of life! He should be placed in history with the likes of Hitler, Stalin, maybe even Mao. 4 more years of Oblamer and you WILL see the end of the American way of life.

        • http://N/A H.D. Hemmings

          Absolute truth! I can’t do any better so I’ll just say ” thank you “! Happy New Year! We’ll have a chance to rid ourselves of the maniacs in D.C.!

        • aydene militello

          I suppose I could counter each of the claims in this post, but let’s face it, personal attacks, in general, border on the silly. One issue though, FDR stealing the gold from Americnas. Uhmm,,,there was a War on and much payment was demanded in gold. However; our gold was safe until DeGaul demanded gold on our Federal notes during Nixon’s tenure. President Nixon had no choice but to honor the demand as it was orinted on our dollars, “Payable on demand.” Ahh,,the French !

        • http://BobLivingston Rod Skare

          Move over Jimmy Carter; YOu have now lost your crown of the worse President of our country to Obama.

        • Ray L

          OK, I see the items forecasting the doomsday. Other than going to the root celler, and waiting for the election in November, what else can be done. The polatics are rife with rotteness and decay. The banks are on a money grab, and cities are strugging just to meet the basic needs. so HOW NOW BROWN COW?

        • http://aol stanleyteee

          Obama had the greatest chance to become the greatest President and he failed in ever way. The first Black American President that could have broke all barriers, put the Country back on a road of “we the people”. He could have opened millions of jobs instead of killing with new regulations. He sold out to Wall Street, Unions, banks. His Foreign Policy of apologizing and giving aid is wrong. The do nothing congress is held back by the Harry Reid Senate. Millions of jobs put on hold because of politics.

        • SidCook

          If you think those IOU’s are worthless, think again. They are from the United States,still the safest Treasury in the World. Who do you think would pay interest on all the Social Security Income, without having use of the Income. I don’t think that you understand the way money and Bonds work. Also the Government has the Power to tax it’s Citizens to pay off debt.

        • Tom SC

          This good for nothing in the oval office is not a Hero but more a NERO. I am expecting in the near future for the administration to call for the surrender of all firearms. I wil not comply. They will then call me an armed terrorist and send the troops to round me and all others who refuse and detain us for life in a FEMA Gulag. I will not go to a Gulag as long as my rifel is in my hands. I will die on the street first.

          • John DeSoto

            There are hundreds of thousands of us who intend the same, many of them are veterans or active military and law enforcement “Oathkeepers” who will not be disarmed or stand by as citizens are disarmed.

        • susan smith

          Good analysis of the presidential impersonator and his egomaniacal opinion of his own “greatness.” HA

        • http://rr07039 xavier`

          Your Critisism–so easy and not factual.

          Where are your GREAT facts and figures that would be greater
          than what our President has been trying to do—

        • Kevin Myatt

          I agree with your article. Barack Obama has to go down in history as the absolute worst President. He is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the traditions that have made America great. I long for the day when he is no longer the President of the United States. Go back to Chicago Barack we don’t want you.

        • Stan Haddock

          HAVING STUDIED HISTORY AS FAR BACK AS TIME WILL ALLOW, YOU HAVE HIT THE MARK DEAD ON,FDR,LBJ AND OBAMA HAVE BEEN TOTAL DISASTERS, THE PROMISES THAT OBAMA HAS MADE HAVE BEEN FALSE AND TOTALLY EMPTY, YET HE HAS A TRIED AND TRUE FOLLOWING THAT THINKS THAT STILL THINKS HE THE ONLY THING HAS HAS ACCOMPLISHED IS WALKING ON WATER, I WILL LEAVE THAT ONE TO BIBLICAL HISTORIANS.

        • RONALD PAYNE

          YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON THAT HAS EVER PRINTED MY THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT OLD ABE NOT BEING SO PURE OR SUCH A GREAT PRESIDENT. I HAVE SAID THIS ABOUT ABE TO OTHER PEOPLE BUT GOT NO RESPONSE FROM ANYONE. THEY PROBABLY BELIEVE THE HISTORY BOOKS IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

          • John DeSoto

            Then they would do themselves well to read “Lincoln Unmasked” by historian and author Thomas DiLorenzo…

        • thomas pardue

          Please, give Obama a break. He spits out what his handlers tell him. He is only a titular president, who was put in the office by the Rothschilds. Muslim…a sympathizer for certain and a Muslim…Well, if it walks like a duck,quacks like a duck….
          He is destroying our country in every manner possible. Obama has no respect for the constitution. He circumvents congress and the constitution by use of his czars or agencies when he can’t pass what he wants. Constantly downs our country and attempts to rewrite history. Oh! But he can play basketball. God Bless America

        • http://yahoo David

          The fact that Congress has released this money to the Palestinians is a vote against Israel and is another reason to impeach Obama. This government that says it is in favor of Israel is lying and supporting terrorists. Our enemy! that is totally totally unacceptable.

        • http://facebook David H Behrens

          Obama’s deranged, deleberate Socialists policies of destroying Americans, is praised and defend over an over by his base of Liberal Democrats, OWS Anarchists, World Socialists and World Tyrants, as they all hate the American Democracy and Capitolism and want to see it all just collapse.

          Obama is a calculating powerful, rich Shyster and his gang of powerful, rich Conmen, Crooks in his Admistration are all out to kill the middle class and turn it into the lower class, so that bunch of heartless, wealthy cronies can totally control the poor ones, who need food stamps and welfare to live, as more and more of them will have to beg for help and will be kept down, like Lackeys.

        • Deborah

          I whole heartidly agree with what you are saying, but I would add that unlike todays professional polititions,(who become millionares while in office.)George Washington helped bankrole our fledgling country. SELF sacrifice was what made this country strong. Greed and power hungry individuals are running us now. We need more Washingtons, more men and women of integrity, honesty, high morals and ethics. When did we lose our way? We have become sheep being lead to the slaughter. Wake-up America, before it’s too late. 2012 will be a pivotal year for us as a nation and a free people. Do we posses the backbone and willingness to win this battle for freedom? I hope so.

        • vic

          i would never compare obumma to lincoln. lincoln was a genuinely good man who made tough choices. obumma is a fraud deliberately out to sabotage the US.

          • John DeSoto

            Lincoln was a schemer and a socialist who regularly corresponded with his friend Karl Marx, and who would be condemned as a war criminal by the same standards that were used at the Nuremburg trials.

        • http://WVI Joe Spenner

          %o years ago, the American people would have run Obama out of the country!
          The Federal Reserve’s “RULE FOR REVOLUTION, and satanic “Bohemia Grove’s,” edicts have corrupted the American system so badly it is decaying for loss or return to the once solid character, founded on the principles of our first great leader. For proof and best hope is in re-aplying: “GEORGE WASHINGTON’S FIRST INAUGURAL ADDRESS.”

        • jim

          total agree

        • Allan

          Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent “Trust” fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

          A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically-controlled House and Senate.
          As noted above, the monies paid into the Social Security trust have never been “put into the general fund.” The requirements for how the Social Security Trust Fund is to be financed and invested have not changed since the fund’s inception in 1939. The reference to Lyndon Johnson indicates that someone was probably confused by a change implemented at the end of the Johnson administration (1969) that altered how the fund was accounted for in the federal budget but did not change the actual operations of the fund itself:

        • Stuart Esrock

          You seem to call yourselves Christian, but from what I observe, you are merely a liar.

        • jeff hall

          While I am not a supporter of Obama or the policies he puts forth, blaming the actions of Congress on him is misapplied blame. He can only put forth a plan that Congress has to implement by allocating expenditures and creating new laws. While I don’t eliminate Obama from the blame, I put much more of the blame on Congress for the direction this country is headed.

        • C.M.

          I agree with you about Johnson and FDR, but Abraham Lincoln is as honest as his reputation of these many decades proclaims. I have studied his life and the political scene at length. He did what he had to do to save this nation as a nation. Someday we will thank him for these wonderful extra 150 years he has given us! He dealt with secret combinations, rebellious and treasonous states, foreign countries planning to carve up the U.S., plots against his life, a broken economy and split country, not to mention a huge civil rights problem that the Founders had planned to see eliminated soon after the Constitution was ratified. He even invited personal and political enemies into his cabinet because the nation needed their expertise. They eventually all admired and even loved him! Do not criticize him and, whatever you do, do not compare him with Obama!

        • TheOtherWhiteMeat

          Will you marry me?

        • paul thurman

          GREAT ARTICLE! Bravo! Keep it up!I was shouting as I read it!Thank you. Play it again Sam!

        • CHUCK U oBAMA

          Impeach Obama!

        • Ms. Mc

          You’re a stupid,disrespectful person. I bet you voted for Bush

        • Olin Ross

          Since 36% of the White kind are on welfare what do you think they are going to say about you lying ignorant stinking dingbat repukes …..

        • RightGunner

          Very interesting. I always wanted to search to find who in Congress first started to spend the Social Security receipts by placing them in the general fund with the tax receipts. You say, “L.B. Johnson stole social security in 1964 when he took all the money that was in a safe, interest bearing account and threw it into the general fund, issuing bonds to social security…bonds that are completely worthless….”. Could you reference a source for this, I am not challenging you, I just want to investigate this further, including how the Federal Government managed the investment in an interest bearing account. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.

        • Randy C

          He aint no Ronald Reagan either!!!

        • Lance

          Prior to 1964 the social security trust funds were invested solely in US Treasury bonds now the social security trust funds are still invested solely in US Treasury bonds. These bonds are exactly the same credits as the savings bonds held by the US public and the tresury bonds held by foreigners like the Chinese. Only a moron would claim they are “worthless ious” because they are obligations of the US Government.

        • Doris

          I agree with this article and in reply to Santiago, Obama says he will govern without congress so I guess he is taking it upon himself to do anything he wants to.

        • Jill

          Washington was also a free mason. They worship the devil in a round about way.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        The largest job loss was 700,xxx, and I believe that was February 2009. The job loss continued, as the uncertainty of what exactly this Totalitarian Socialist (Nazzzi, Commie, Marxist) would do. As the uncertainty continues to this day, no one will invest in Plants, Equipment, Employees, etc. Until that uncertainty is removed there will be no investment made. What don’t you understand about it?

        • NC

          Captalist, I am over 70 years old and a history major and every presidential election since 1932, at least, Republicans have called Democrat candidates just what you called Obama ” a socialist and a Marxist” and warned the American people that Democrats ,if elected, would ruin our free market society and ruin our capitalist society because they didn’t know how to run it.
          Do you know that if A REPUBLICAN had invested $10,000 in S&P “stocks” in 1929 and took it out when Democrats went into office and put it all back when Republicans came back into the White House and did that everytime Republican were in the White House that the investment would have been worth just under $12,000 when bush II left office BUT IF YOU HAD DONE THE SAME THING WITH $10,000 IN the SAME STOCKS WHEN democrats were in office, “the Democrat investment” would have worth over $ 300,000.OO WHEN CLINTON LEFT OFFICE.$300,000.00 UNDER DEMOCRATS AND JUST UNDER $12,000 UNDER REPUBLICANS. SEEMS TO ME THOSE “SOCIALIST MARXIST” DEMOCRATS HAVE MANAGED THE ECONOMY QUITE WELL IN THE LAST 80 YEARS. THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THAT BACKS THIS UP! “THE STOCK MARKET LOVES THE DEMOCRATS!!!”" I WONDER WHY THEY SAY THAT? FOR PROOF OF THIS I INVITE ALL REPUBLICANS TO GO TO “BULLS, BEARS, DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” ON YOUR SEARCH ENGINES. LOOK IT UP.

          • Brad

            Hey NC,

            How are the markets loving Ohmama and his crony capitalists, deficits are up, S&P down grades the US first time ever, poverty is up under Ohmama. Right now history will call Barrack H. Obama the worst US President in history, his administration and the democrats in the house and senate since 2007 have systematicly brought down the greatest economy in the world.

          • Old Henry

            Brad:

            To quote Helen Thomas from the Clinton era: “Everything that should be up is down and everything that should be down is up. The country is going to hell in a handbasket.” She caught ole dick-for-brains off guard with that one and it certainly applies to the here and now.

      • Joe

        Weeeel, no. He said, in fact, that he was NOT going to bother to take the time to rehearse all of Dear Reader’s lies. Work on your reading comprehension a bit. And yes, those *are* lies. (The “jobs saved stuff” is hilarious. Reminds me of the guy who gets on a railroad train through Kansas. The fella sitting across from him keeps snapping his fingers every couple of seconds. Guy #1 finally can’t help asking, “Why are you doing that?” The other fella says, “It keeps the wild elephants away.” Mr. 1 says, “But…there *are* no wild elephants in Kansas.” #2 says, “See?! It works!” In a similar vein, ol’ Hussein O. claims he “saved” a gadzillion jobs, when there is absolutely no way to support that claim. “If it weren’t for my administration, the wild elephants would be storming the train by now!” Risible, though tragic.

      • http://Personallibertydigest Mary

        Flashy, he said he wasn’t going to list ALL of Obama’s misstatements, that he was only going to list TWO of them.
        To the fact that WE paid to save GM, the Pres. crapped all over the people that had invested in the co., and gave it to the UNIONS!, WE PAID for this through our taxes.
        IF he did created 3 MILLION jobs, well goody, goody, gumdrop, PROVE it. Then also to that we brought in over 4.5 MILLION Legal immigrants in this 3 years, so where’s the net GAIN for American citizens, to say nothing of the 20 MILLION Illegal aliens allowed to work here, if caught, they get fired, but NOT DEPORTED, so they are FREE to go to another job site, check it out at numbersusa.com, get a gander at what Obama is allowing to happen to the country that our forefathers fought and some died for to happen.
        NOW Obama is telling these illegal law breakers that they have “rights”, the same rights as legal citizens and legal immigrants, look for the next amnesty attempt, they are working on one right now, another DREAM ACT for illegal aliens, up to 35 years of age!!! Good Grief, slap legal immigrants in the face, they get off scott free at the expense of legal citizens, BILLIONS every year to support the leaches!

        • NC

          Mary, where are we going to find a president to handle the immigation problem? Reagan and the two bushes made sure that big business contributors kept their cheap labor. Clinton didn’t do any better with the problem. Obama inherited 13 million illegals from bush but I have heard that the numbers are dropping because bush wrecked the economy to the point there are fewer jobs available to them. The Republican candidates are divided on whether to build prisons for 13 million 1llegals that “we” (?) can’t have running around but that’s another big money program the Republicans are against or build a fence from sea to shining sea. How much is that a foot?Perry says a fence is NOT the answer and he has more “footage” than anyone. Ron Paul would probably tell you that if elected he would just say “Boo” and they would all run back south of the border. BIG PROBLEM, MARY!!

          • Flashy

            Actually, the numbers deported for being undocumented has increased under Obama.

            What is needed is a Congress who will insist those knowingly employing undocumented workers do jail time. Alas….i don’t believe any such bill has been introduced. Wonder why that GOP House hasn’t seen fit to introduce such legislation ?

          • MRMO

            HAY FLASH, I DON’T SEE YOUR BE-LOVED DEM’S. PUTTING OUT ANY BILLS..

        • skyhigh1030

          WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL ALIEN MAKES YOU LAGAL TO BE HERE OR GIVES YOU THE RIGHTS OF A US CITIZEN MORE LIBERAL HYPERBOLE BULL TRYING TO KILL THIS GREAT COUNTRY FROM WITHIN WHATS NEXT SHRIA LAW GIVE ME A BREAK

        • talkinbout

          Mary, you say, “To the fact that WE paid to save GM, the Pres. crapped all over the people that had invested in the co., and gave it to the UNIONS!, WE PAID for this through our taxes.”

          If the Pres. hadn’t bailout GM and Crysler their stock wouldn’t be worth anything and the people who invested in them would have lost everything anyway. Also, the bailout saved thousands of jobs and the companies had to re-organized as part of the deal and have paid back most of the money to the tax payers with interest.
          When Bush bailed out the banks there were stipulations so they spent the money on themselves.

          • talkinbout

            Sorry, meant to say, “there were NO stipulations so the banks spent it on themselves”.

      • Karen

        You must be a socialist or Communist? Where have you been since Obama has been in office? Apparently, you have not been in this Country! Obama and his cronies are the biggest liars in this country right now! They don’t care about the American people, they care about the UN’s agenda 21 and New World Order! They care about the FEMA camps that they have setup all over the country for people that don’t believe their lies!

        • DaveH

          Flashman is almost certainly an Obama operative, here to attempt to interfere with good people who want to learn truth. For those who don’t know:
          http://www.personalliberty.com/asset-and-wealth-protection/preserving-wealth/what-now/#comment-439910

          I would guess that he and Jeremy Leochner (who also came back from the dead recently) have gotten smart enough to change their IP addresses by now.

          • Flashy

            Dave…I had commented on that in an earlier post when I returned. Try again. I stand by what I stated back then as well as my recent comments.

          • DaveH

            The regular readers know you, Flashman. You have no credibility on this board.

          • eddie47d

            News Flash Dave …you are losing your credibility!

      • DaveH

        You Lie, Flashman. How usual.
        Flashman says “Now granted, Obama could have gone the economic path which the Right and the GOP espoused. Worked darn well for Hoover didn’t it. For that was the situation Hoover faced and his policies did not halt the slide into the Depression…it greased the rails hastening the decline”.
        The problem is, Flashman that Hoover sought the path of Government Intervention (just like Obama) instead of butting out like Warren Harding did in the 1920 crash. The 1920 crash ended in about a year:
        http://mises.org/daily/2902

        The fact that you keep spouting the same old nonsense, and that you have been commenting here for well over a year, tells me that your intention here is not to learn, but to spread Propaganda. Time after time, I have exposed your Fabricated Facts, and still you keep on.
        How much do they pay you, Flashman, to try to keep good people from learning truth? Come clean, Flashman, it will do your soul good. Yeah, I know, I’m Hoping and Dreaming majorly.

        • skyhigh1030

          THE LIBERAL PROPAGANDA MACHINE LIKE THE DEVIL IS ALIVE AND WELL GOD BLESS AMERICA

        • Flashy

          Mises again? Dave..i keep telling you, you’re rotting your brain with that stuff. i read that article. the assumptions were laughable and….you should note…not one comment on government poilicy during Hoover’s administration.

          Oops.

          Take a gander at FDRs 100 Days. Note what was done. Ask yourself, if such was done in 1930, how the Depression would have been averted as the effects of the 29 Crash began taking effect.

          Again…the Right wanted Hooverism in response to the collapse of the economy due to the Bush/Cheney GOP years. ya really think that would have done anything but send us over the abyss?

          • DaveH

            Are you so deranged, Flashman, that you think anybody who has read the article would believe that you read it with your statement “not one comment on government poilicy during Hoover’s administration”?
            Good Grief, man, you must have no pride at all.

          • JC

            Dave, Mises and Austrian economics in general scare the hell out of Flash and his kind…just too much reality for them. Imagine, a world without generational welfare…The stuff of nightmares for Flash and the Gang. ;)

          • eddie47d

            There are too many bogeymen on the right to be scared JC. Dave is a professional insulting troll .Are You?

          • JC

            Dave has my respect.
            You don’t, and neither does any useful idiot socialist.

      • JMJ

        Flashy: If you get your “facts” all by yourself, then, boy, you are in trouble. First FACT: re-read (or have someone do it for you) Chip’s first three sentences. Amazing isn’t it? Not what you wrote is it? If we tried to tell ALL of the big “o” lies, the computers would melt down. 3 million “jobs”? Where are they? Unless, of course, you would count (as Obama does) jobs that give a person less then 40 hours per week, no benefits to speak of & very low pay, well maybe, you might have a valid point & I’m sure that these people will invite you to their houses for dinner as they have so much extra food in their cabinets, thanks to OBAMANISM. Wake up & face the truth! This country is going down very fast because of Obama’s & his fiendish democratic, un-american politicians. +JMJ+

      • Dale

        Flashy, Read Chips article againhe said he was only going to comment on 2 instead of all of them

      • Dntmkmecmoverther

        Hey Flashy (that must refer to your butt every morning flying out from under the bedsheet; what a vision) There is not enough room on this blog to list all the lies of this president. Let’s begin with this one:
        ‘The US is on longer a Christian nation’
        or “you can keep your current health plan’(only true until his gawdawful plan kicks in during 2014)

        Or how about this whopper:
        “I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.”

        Obummer was speaking of welfare and SS checks which are automated; to stop them would literally take an act of congress and a huge revamp of the software and management which oversees the printing and mailing of said checks. Obummer’s statement was patently false.

        • Flashy

          Let’s go through the ones you listed, since the two that Chip commented on aren’t lies…and I discussed how they weren’t.

          1. The US is on longer a Christian nation’ … never was one. As first stated by Pres. Adams (I believe 1803). Only closed American taliban would think we ever were a “christian nation”. We hold many values common to that sect, but we are not a nation of it. now…go and find the speech he stated that, and listen to what he was stating before and after. See how taking one small snippet can twist meaning?

          2. or “you can keep your current health plan’(only true until his gawdawful plan kicks in during 2014) ” Really? And pray tell why would you have to change your plan after 2014? There is nothing in the law or proposed implemntation regs that state you have to change plans. That’s your lie, not the President’s.

          Or how about this whopper:
          3. “I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.” Remember when Newt tossed a frizzy and called Clinton’s stand and the government shut down? As the President stated…nothing was guarateed as no one knew what would be left after the “must” bills due were paid. As for stopping payments if required…simple. To think software makes it more complicated is foolishness. fact is…getting back to your comment…no one was guaranteeing payments would be made. Because no one could.

          Batting 5 for 5 folks. I’m not syaying the President never lied…but so far, the ones you guys hype sure aren’t the whoppers you’re saying they are. fact is…you’re rpeating lies that are not true.

          Chew on that …

      • BoxMeNot

        Well Said,Thank U

      • TML

        “Notice Chip said he would list all the lies he could as he claims were stated by President Obama.

        ummmm..he cited two. Wow…”

        The rest of your post just lost all credibility when your attention span is so short that you don’t even realize that Chip said he would NOT list ‘all’ the lies.

      • clarence swinney

        FLASH DA SMASHY KING GO BOY GO SMASH

        A LIE IS “INTENT TO DECEIVE”

        Like Bush and 11 staffers 935 on WMD. That is big Lie
        Like Bush 254 at google clarence swinney + Bush Lies or + Bush waffles
        Like Reagan over 300 in book Ronald Reagan: “There He Goes Again”

        Show me ONE LIE(Intent To Deceive) Lord Willian Of Hope told us on POLICY. A challenge I have made to many many Conservatives . Not One. Not One. None. Zero=None=zap Tell me o n e!

        Newt Congress spent $110,000,000(GAO number)on Hearings-Investigations trying to destroy Clinton as you guys are doing on King Barack of Harvard. Go Tarheels.

        $110M got what? 1=one=one less than 2=Young man took $12,000 of ball games trips from corp pals from college.He could not afford to fight OIC Smaltzsmear so pled guilty. Even Smaltzsmer said no quid pro quo just doing since college but now illegal in executive bramch.
        (not legislative).Newt was taking $200,00 family vacatiuon in Europe paid for by Electronics Lobbyists who had a bill before Congress

        Intent To Deceive not error in judgment not change of mind
        When stated intent was to deceive Like 935 on WMD.

        Give it you best shot. INTENT

        Did Reagan lie when he said he would cut size of goverment instead increased it by 80%???? NO. He meant it. He just stoopid.

        • Brad

          Clarence,

          All I have to say sir is 15.167 Trillion and counting, in less than three years our current administration and congress have added more to the deficit then any other president or congress put together.

        • big wyo

          clarence – you make no sence are you on meds?

        • meteorlady

          What a weird rant. Blame blame blame. As for Bush – he had no less than 9 UN Resolutions and the FULL vote of the congress BEFORE entering into war. How does he always bear the full brunt of this item? I believe Ted Kennedy made a rousing speech in support of going to war, as did a few other liberal Democrats, but that’s all conveniently forgotten.

          Yet Obama goes into Libya without any congressional approval land that’s just find and dandy to you people right? How about ‘ADVISORS’ in Africa – is that Ok also?

          Get a life and live in the present.

      • Old Henry

        Flashy / Flashman / Jerremy / Jovie:

        You can ALWAYS tell when Little Barry is lieing – his lips are moving.

        What Chip overlooked, or did not want to use the space to mention, was that in that “3 million jobs” were many that were “saved” and not CREATED. So, the actual number of NEW jobs is somewhat murky.

        • MRMO

          I THINK THAT WHEN EVER OBUMMER TALKS THEY SHOULD TAKE AWAY HIS PROMPTER, HOOK HIM UP TO A POLYGRAPH AND RUN IT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TV SCREEN FOR ALL TO SEE HOW MUCH TRUTH IS COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH. I THINK HIS SUPPORTERS WOULD BE AMAZED .
          THE ONLY CHANGE I SEE IN OBUMMER FROM THE OTHERS IS HE LIES ALL THE TIME NOT JUST HALF. WELCOME TI IL. WHERE THIS STANDERD RUNNING TO GET INTO OFFICE..

          • meteorlady

            He would be frozen in silence or there would be a lot of ah ah ah ah ah ssss…

      • MNIce

        Flashy, your claim about Herbert Hoover’s failed approach is aimed 180 degrees off-target. Hoover’s most disastrous attempt to halt the depression ended with the collapse of the banking industry: “… Then [Hoover] set up the Reconstruction Finance Corp. to bring federal aid to hard pressed banks and businesses. Just as it seemed that this might work and that recovery was at hand, in the winter of 1932-33 the banking system in America went into a tailspin. On March 4, 1933, the American banking system ground to a complete halt.” The RFC was based on the same idea as Bush’s TARP and your hero’s TARP II. The failed stimulus programs are a reprise of FDR’s New Deal agencies that prolonged the Great Depression by taking capital out of the economy to spend on government programs. If you don’t understand how borrowing 1/3 of the GDP in only three years will have a substantial negative effect on the economy, you don’t understand basic finances. (Hint: go to your banker and ask him why he will not lend you 1/3 of your annual paycheck for expenditures that cannot be made into collateral.)

        Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_did_Herbert_Hoover_do_in_response_to_the_stock_market_crash_in_1929#ixzz1i29TBMqI

      • independant thinker

        As usual Flashy starts off with a lie.

        “Notice Chip said he would list all the lies he could as he claims were stated by President Obama.”

        That IS NOT what Chip said. what he did say is:

        ” I’m not going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.

        No, for now I want to mention just two of his most recent assaults on the truth.”

        • granny mae

          Hey there independant thinker,
          Very good post ! LOL ! I’m with you !

      • Nora Smith

        And, some people are still in denial! obama made them believe the wonder deeds he has done because he wants another term to finish America.

        Certainly, God the Creator of all is not pleased seeing His creatures taking His place. This administration has been good for: Wars, stealing taxpayers$$ to kill 4,000+ babies a day by Planparenthood, millions homeless & unemployed, and on and on -it’s a total chaos provoked by the creature!!!

        NO THANK YOU obama, the “ISOLATIONIST” ‘president’

      • big wyo

        Ole flushy cant read. actually he has never created sh@t.

      • clarence swinney

        But for a lot of reasons, Chris Bergin, president and publisher of Tax Analysts, said, “It is certainly not implausible.”

        Last year, 4,000 households with incomes over a million dollars owed no federal income tax whatsoever, according to Tax Policy Center estimates.

        What’s more, of the top 400 federal tax returns with the highest adjusted gross incomes in 2008, 30 had an effective tax rate of less than 10%, noted Mark Luscombe, the principal federal tax analyst at CCH.

        A big reason is that a large percentage of wealthy Americans’ income comes from investments, which are often taxed at lower rates than ordinary wages and salaries.

        What’s more, some perfectly legal tax code provisions allow taxpayers to reduce their investment tax bills even further.

        • meteorlady

          So Clarence – how much percentage wise to the rich pay in taxes? Because that’s the issue, not who doesn’t pay. There are a lot of “paper” millionaires and business people. I hate half truths…..

          You might also mention that 47% of the people living in this country PAY ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL. Many that didn’t even pay taxes get money back so what’s your point here? Class warfare?

          I’m a business owner and the government DOES NOT CREATE JOBS. They hinder job creations through biased and special interest regulations, high taxes, low deductibles and all the special payroll taxes. Example: Washington state just increased their minimum wage – my brother-in-law is laying off one person because business is slow and he can’t afford to keep a person at that rate of wage….. Meanwhile they also increased in B&O tax which hit him at a bad time.

      • clarence swinney

        chippedwood nevers mentions that
        Repug Senate killed 127 bills
        Some passed House unanimously.
        Some were job creators. Poor help
        Repukes do not care for America.
        They are anti christ anti america anti world
        10% own 70% net wealth and financial wealth
        Repugnuts want them to get 90%

        • JC

          Still putting scotch on your corn flakes Clarence?

        • meteorlady

          I’m in business and I closely watch whats being considered. THERE WAS NOT ONE single bill that would have done anything for me so that I can grow and create jobs. If you know of what I’d be happy to look at it.

      • http://al@bellaproducts.com al metcalf

        Flashy, you might try reading the first two paragraphs of Chip’s article again.
        As for jobs saved – Hmmm, try to quantify nothingness, it is a tough sell, but evidently your buying.
        The auto industry. They are private corporations and need to operate in that marketplace. Taxpayers could freely invest in them if they wanted to, it is not the position of the Feds to invest for us. You know, it is the FREEDOM THING IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
        Wake up Flashy or one day you will find yourself in chains and wonder how you got there.

      • Jibbs

        Read the first line of the first paragragh and the first line of the second paragragh smart guy!

      • Jules

        Flashy–Go back and read it again he said he wasn’t going to list them all, but was going to “mention just two of his most recent assaults on the truth”. Pay attention and maybe next year we’ll have a new Republican President.

      • kab

        Flashy -

        “Notice Chip said he would list all the lies he could as he claims were stated by President Obama…”

        Um, no, he said – “I’m not going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.
        No, for now I want to mention just two of his most recent assaults on the truth. ”

        To begin your insane diatribe with such a fallacy indicates that you didn’t actually read any of what he said, which makes the stupidity of your response understandable.

        Anyone who can, with a straight face, say that Obama has done anything beneficial for our country as a whole, has obviously been smoking something even a Libertarian wouldn’t legalize.

        Go back to Media Matters and find a new place to troll.

      • Paula

        Flashy, you really are stupid. If you would go back and read the very beginning of the article you would see he said he was only going to mention 2 (“I’m not going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.

        No, for now I want to mention just two of his most recent assaults on the truth.”)

        Last week Barbara Walter interviewed him and he said deep down he is lazy (well ok that’s the true). But also in the interview he said he has not been able to accomplish all that he wanted because of congress. What a bunch of bull, democrats held the majority for both the House and the Senate for the first 2 years and Obama manage to give away trillions in tax payers money and get Obama care passed. Let me tell you if that actually ever goes into affect you will be very unhappy.
        He was able to secretly give away billions to his green agenda, and we did not find out until that failed and were forced to file bankruptcy.
        What was all the bull about the extended 1 year tax cut. Obama said he wanted a year. The House (republican) put together a proposal for 1 year. The senate (democrat) refused to accept it and only wanted 2 months. I think Obama said one thing to the public and told the Senate, no matter what the House proposes I want you to rejected. There by making the House appear weak.
        They added up all the time he has spent on the golf course since becoming President and it amounted to 3 months (that is one month a year) and that is on top of all the other vacations he has taken.
        I think he expected to be a 1 term president, so he has been living the high life at the tax payer expense.
        So, I think about all the crap Obama has done and I ask what has he done right?

      • KHM

        @ Flashy,
        Did you read the article before posting your inane comments. Reread Mr. Wood’s first sentence; words to the effect that he would NOT try to cite all of (Obama’s) dastardly lies. How can you defend this usurper and destroyer of our Constitution and law? If I had about 5 pages I could list some of the lies that BHO has told.
        Maybe you’d be happier posting on th Huffpo.

      • granny mae

        Flashy,

        There is not enough room on this site to list all of Obama’s lies !

      • Jay Rasco

        Well said brother,well said!

      • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

        FLASHY, WHILST i AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR STATING TO BE TRUE, HOWEVER IT IS NOT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS AND AUTHORITIES TO CREATE JOBS IN NON PRODUCTIVE ACTIVITIES LIKE ADMINISTRATION. These days we have computers to do the mundane paper work and it would be much cheaper to pay social security for the unemployed than pay them full wages for doing little else than occupy another seat in a bueracracy. Machinery these days means we need less people leaning on shovels and having lots of tea breaks. Using teleconferencing with the best tutors can teach more pupils in larger classrooms instead of employing more hopeless teachers to churn out more uneducated students. Less police would be required if police resorces were better targetted into serious crimes instead of chasing fishing pouchers and recuurent domestic disputes. Pumping taxpayers money or credit money into ineffiencient motor vehicle corporations who cant compete with the better japanese auto makers only serves to delay their demise, not save those unsavable jobs, and it would be far better that the shareholders decide if they want the business to survive or go under. Much cheaper to pay unemployment social security than pay overpaid wages to an inefficient industry.
        The reality is that workers are more interested in the income than the job…and social security is a much cheaper option than paying full price wages for manufactured good the american people are not wanting to buy.
        You have a strange system in america that your government would much prefer to sell off empty houses after the owners default for next to nothing, and continue to have people sleeping on the streets instead of filling some of those houses with families perhaps on a lower rent for a time.. why have so many empty houses risking vandalism when it better to risk vandalism from some of the tenants who will be offered the last chance for a rental if they look after it. If they dont…THEN NEVER EVER give them any assistance. Reward good behaviour Punish bad.

        To be fair to the OBAMA Administration, I dobt that the Republicans would have done any different [except under Dr Ron Paul] and there would still be the extra bebts. The current thinking is still to payoff old debt with new deflated dollars making it easier and cheaper than trying to upset voters with higher taxes. Its the normal thinking for both most of Rrepublicans who think Ron Paul is a loony and the many Democrates also being incumbent administration. However a growing number are seeing the logic of Dr Ron Paul and they will vote for Ron Paul. If the Republicans choose anyone of the other do dos, then the Republican game is lost in my opinion, UNLESS DR RON PAUL could run as an INDEPENDENT? Is that possible under your system of govet?

      • John Woodbury

        Flushy, I am so sick of STUPID lying liberals, I could puke. Please get an education before opening DNC talking points here. Hoover’s ideas for the recovery from 1929 were stopped by FDR in the Senate, then 3 years later reintroduced by FDR. Please get a history education before spewing lies here.

      • Ranchman

        Dear “Flashy,”

        I would try to get you to see the light on the fact that Obama is more than just possibly the most dangerous man to inhabit the oval office, but it would invariably be in vain. There are truly those who have no eyes to see nor ears to hear. Yet issues on that level are almost certainly to escape you as well. What can be said about the lying fraud that is obama? Answer: nothing at all. His accomplishments? Your sarcastic reply of “lol” is more appropriate here than elsewhere. You will not believe the truth because you choose to believe lies and fraud. There is nothing any reasonable and rational man can say to bring you into the light. There are simply those who will not make it, and that is the final, absolute truth and time is short, my friend. Time is very short. It would behoove you to search out the truth…it truly will set you free.

      • meteorlady

        I’m sorry – people like you Flashy just amaze me. You work so hard to make it appear that you are intelligent yet you continue to believe word of mouth and biased reports. In this day and age, it seems that there are no true journalist anymore there as simply people that write opinion pieces riddle with half-truths and untruths. You seem to fall into the category of someone that has heard something so much they believe it to be true. I would like you to answer the rebuttal, but most times those that come here can’t because they cannot accept truth when the read or see it.

      • JTB

        WOW I don’t know what you smoke but I want some. You make me laugh outloud!

      • Bev

        You need to learn to read. He said ” I’m not going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made since he assumed the highest office in the land. That would take a lot more pages than we have room for today.”

      • Houdini1984

        Wow, Flashy… talk about misrepresenting someone’s statements. Chip did not say that he would list all of Obama’s lies or inaccuracies. He said “I’m NOT going to review all the dastardly lies, misstatements and gross exaggerations Barack Obama has made” (emphasis mine)

        As for your attempt to disprove those falsehoods, well done. Like the scuttlefish, you’ve attempted to muddy the waters enough to allow your Messiah to escape scrutiny. Failed on every count, mind you, but at least you made the attempt.

      • Skipper

        Hey ‘not so’ Flashy! Go back and read the first sentence of the first and second paragraphs of this article where it says “I’m NOT going to review all the lies…” and “No, I’m just going to mention two…”. Hmmm! Maybe you should change your handle to dyslexic??? no that would be an insult to dyslexics around the world.Shut your pie hole, open your eyes and use your brain.

    • NC

      SC you would admit to nothing good about Obama if it broke a rcord for good. I have read your post.What were the job losses per month in the last three months of the bush admibistration and what are they now? What about private sector job creation? 6547? Do you know what that is? That’s where the Dow BOTTOMED OUT from the bush recession? Over 12,000 now under Obama. The only reason you don’t feel safe is because you are paranoid!I haven’t read a word about any major attempts on our country since Obama’s election! Have you??

      • Flashy

        NC…they need hate and fear to project their anger. they know deep down they are working for anti Middle Class forces, they know what they are being told what to say and think by their Masters is not true. But they cannot admit they have spent their entire lives being made fools of.

        they can’t refute anything, so they either make up false claims or say ‘prove it!’ instead of thinking themselves. They need things simple and black and white…and reality is not simple nor black and white. So they hate, they have anger and fear because they have no ability nor want for complex thought…

        ah well…

        • FreedomFighter

          Or maybe, many of us are awake. Like what you write, we no longer believe any of the bullsh&^.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

          • libertytrain

            His description fit pretty near every lib left person I’ve met to date….

          • FreedomFighter

            Hit wrong reply button, need more coffee.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Sirian

            Ditto!!

          • William Lord

            Dear Freedom fighter. I accessed the site you recommended which put forth the view that a handfull of eugenecists are attempting to somehow control our lives and reproductive rights through insidious methods such as floride using as visual confirmation clips from an old movie version of 1984. At that point I decided the joke had been made and I did not pursue the punch line. Given the current world population of over 7 billion, an increase from roughly 2 billion when I was a yound school boy, their so-called efforts don’t appear to be working very well. I wouldn’t worry about them but rather the opposite that we are destroying the planet with over population.

          • FreedomFighter

            Willi,

            you condem the facts due to presentation of old film footage, then admit its been going on since you were a child even longer if you check and how unsuccessfull they have been.

            Science has progressed my friend and so have the methodes, more secret, more prevasive, more insidious, because it didnt work in the open way back when.

            If you really believe the planet overpopulated:

            Please, SAVE US, off yourself.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Jibbs

            He must be related to 47d.

        • NC

          Well said!!!!! They live in the Ann Coulter world of dark conspiracies that are NEVER proved.They fear all Muslims: There is not a Muslim nation in the world with a navy strong enough to land enough soldiers on our shores that a well trained sheriff’s department couldn’t take care of. Remember “we have to fight them over there so we won’t have to fight them over here?” WE were already spending billions and billions on Homeland security to fight them “over here’. How much BS was that?
          Their true colors became apparent when one to their congressional leaders said if we have to wreck the economy to get back the white House we will! It’s the White House that is their goal not a better America. Wreck the economy?? That’s American citizen’s money and retirement they are willing to sacrifice. But to the congressman’s credit at the time he made the statement bush hadn’t left us much economy to ‘wreck”??

          • FreedomFighter

            Obama is a traitor to the office of president, constitution, American people, and should be impeached, jailed, then hung right next to Eric Holder.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Lastmanstanding

            IMO, homeland security was put here to keep and eye on the increasing amount of Americans who are dissatisfied with their loss of liberty and freedom…while I’m at it, I’ll mention fema, doj, atf, etc.

            Vote Ron Paul 2012…or lose everthing that our founders fought for.

          • Patty

            NC – for someone who wants to lay total blame on Bush and his policies, I find it very ironic that Obummer has followed all of Bush’s bad policies and tripled down on them to boot and yet you back Obummer and attack Bush. Hmmm. A vote for Obummer is a vote to continue Bush’s bad policies. The ticket should read Bush 3, not Obama.

          • DaveH

            So, NC, are you telling us that you are against Obama’s military excursions into Libya, and Pakistan?

          • clarence swinney

            Recall Soviet Invasion of Afghan?
            Recall Osama Bin Laden and Taliban
            Fighting to throw out invaders.
            FREEDOM FIGHTERS
            Now we invade they are TERRORISTS.

            How does world see us? Crazy?
            Brown Skin Jesus yells “WHAT THE HELL?”

          • Jibbs

            The illegal POS abummer already wrecked the economy, where have you been…….under a rock?

          • eddie47d

            Still being a dufus Jibbs?

          • Dennis48e

            It takes one to know one eddie.

        • DaveH

          You have totally destroyed any credibility you might have previously had, Flashman. Why do you bother? Are you really just a plant trying to make Liberals look as dishonest and ignorant as they really are? If so, you’re doing an excellent job.

          • Sirian

            It’s rather obvious, isn’t it Dave?

          • Flashy

            Well Dave, if i had only Mises to offer as my sources, and unable to have complex thought processes, knew nothing of economics, history, and consequences, give nothing but denigrations to a post i disagreed with..I’d be like you!

          • DaveH

            That’s correct, Flashman, you don’t offer any proof for your fabricated facts. The best you can muster is to try somehow to denigrate mises.org.
            Note readers that Flashman can never dispute those facts. Instead he must use personal attacks in a vain Liberal adolescent attempt to sway readers emotionally instead of factually.

          • DaveH

            And Flashman, where are those “complex thought processes”? Surely you don’t think your Ignorant Fabricated Facts qualify?

          • NC

            Dave, Obama inherited a situation that bush started that put Pakistan into play with 10 billion US taxpayers dollars for assistance in the area. As a matter of fact I was against invading Afghanistan with ground troops. Ain’t nobody ever won a ground war in that coutry by invasion> The Russians with a big ground Army and a common border got their butt handed to them in the 80′s. We had a 5000 mile supply line to contend with. WE paid trillions for the most technological equipment in history and bush lets Saddam lure him into a door to door war that neautralized most of our advantage and did the same thing in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan. My major complaint against Obama is that he was too early on health care and too late in leaving Iraq and that entire region with ground troops. AS for Libya, that was an inherited situation that I thought he handled perfectly. He gave aid that helped them over throw Condi’s boyfriend and didn’t lose a life> Well done, Mr. President
            As for “blaming bush” why can’t Republicans come to grips with just how bad the economy was when he left office, how much Obama has had to “spend” to try to revive the weak economy he didn’t create and pay for the foreign wars that he didn’t start. Do you really think Obama would have spent as much if he had inherited the great economy and war-free county bush inherited? Really??Just asking the Republicans to end their denial of just how bad it was in JAN. 2009 and try to help out with the mess.Some experts were calling it the second worse economic situation ever BEFORE Obama ever took office AND IT TOOK 11 YEARS AND A MAJOR WAR TO GET OUT OF THE WORST ONE BACK IN 1930> 3 years is yesterday.

          • DaveH

            “Libya was an inherited situation”, NC?
            You’re kidding right?
            Are you vying for Flashman’s spot of no credibility?

        • shoedog

          Non of the Obama apologist ever mention that the 1st 6 years of the Bush admin produced consistant economic growth. What happened in the last 2 years? Well the dems took control of congress and there you go. Reagan turned the Carter mess around in less than 2 years but Obama still blames Bush.

          • Flashy

            Whoa Shoe..you realize you cited support for the two most disasterous administrations ever to curse this nation? Our economic ills can be traced to beginning with reagan…and culminating with Bush II. And you’re suporting both? Whoa ….

            if you wre to ask for my humble opinion, excepting Vietnam, nixon did a fairly good job for what he was dealt…and Ike didn’t do too shabby either. I’d even give grudging respect to Bush I but for his coverup of Iran/Contra and the sell out to Big Energy

          • Dennis48e

            Once again Flashy pants makes claims and accusations with absolutely no proof or sources to back his claims.

          • clarence swinney

            Reagan submitted 8 budgets Bush the same
            Reagan 8 increased Spending by 80% debt by 180%
            Blame Congress? Ha! Congress retured RR 8 to him with fewer dollars than he submitted. 1930-1980 spent 6066B
            1981-1989 we spent over 7000B
            more in 8 than 50!!!!!!
            RR took less than 1000B debt added on 180%

            Bush took 1800 budget to 3500
            Bush took 5700 debt to 11,900

            Blame Congress is dumb.
            Writers here do not know procedure of budgeting.

            It is simple–
            In Feb of each year Pres submits a Budget Resolution.
            That is Total Request to Spend
            Congress accepts Total or revise the Total then they sign it
            Congress cut Obama Resolution 3600 to 3500
            The President Sets TOTAL Spending.
            13 appropriation bills are massaged by Congress yet remain in TOTAL

            Typical Conservative Rationalize-Spin-alibi-excuse–Lie lie lie
            Have you no shame sirs????

        • JMJ

          Chris & Flashy: The problems started with Clinton & was fed by ACORN, Barney Frank, Chris Dowd, John Kerry & your mindless, useless president: Obama to name a few. Why was Obama so AFAID to go back to Washington & he was forced by Bush to return? He along with Kerry & Frank knew where the problem came from & they were petrified about being found out. It is too bad that you lack complete common sense, which tells me that you are college grads that didn’t inhale (Clinton, once again) & you want us to believe that drugs don’t effect the brain. Yea! Right! Seeing how the so-called election of 2008ad was fixed, we can presume that the low-life democrats along with ACORN will pull off another defeat for America & it’s way of life in 2012ad, which will mean the fatal end of our country, which will put your types in great turmoil when you have to wake up from your mindless slumber that you have been hiding in. +JMJ+

          • JTB

            JMJ – very well said!

        • Bubbles

          You democrats are just a bunch of O-bots meaning Mr O does all your thinking for you = 0

      • RockyRoad

        NC: If you feel Obama is so great then why are you here? Shouldn’t you be at the DailyKos where they worship his every written speech?

        As for attacking Bush for every argument is only proof you can’t find anything positive to say about the previous president. So in a way you are guilty of the same. No I was not happy about how every time Bush tried to get anything done he had to fight a democrat congress. Did I support the Iraq war? No. Afghanistan I could understand but disagreed with the other.

        Keep on reading here : ) You just might learn something.

        Have a nice day!

        • NC

          Everytime bush tried to get anything done he had to fight a Democrat Congress??? YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THAT ARE YOU??? Their first major piece of legislation was to give BUSH the 600+billion dollar bailout he went CRYING AND BEGGING the Democrats FOR WITH HIS 3 PAGE BILL. YOU DON’T REMEMBER THAT? THE BILL THAT BECAME “TARP’ THAT bush handed out!
          The only reason the Democrats were in control was Americans had seen where 12 years Republican control with six years of bush trickle down fiscal policy was taking the economy> There are reasons for election results.

          • Ted Crawford

            +”There are reasons for election results” a fact that you might want to take note of NC, given the 2010election. I agree that Bush was bad, unfortunitly for us Obama and company is far, far worse!

          • clarence swinney

            NC Go Heels
            In 2008, Bush commited 8500 Billion on Bailouts
            google- judy keen + bailouts
            Bloomberg News recent expose’ of Fed 7.7T of bailouts were Bush 8.5T

        • DaveH

          It’s seems odd to me that the Liberals bash Bush’s Tarp (worthy of bashing) but accept Obama’s Stimulus Plans without question. It’s either wrong or it’s right, Liberals, you can’t have it both ways. When you do try to have it both ways, it just illustrates the fact that you are Zealots whose morality changes depending on which party is in office. Yeah, I know, “what morality?”.

          • clarence swinney

            Tarp was good faith effort in financial tsunami
            Stimulus was accepted by major of economists as Good Faith Effort to energize Bush destroyed economy.

            Bush Great Recession was Great Depression except we have Safety Nets.
            No safty nets We have marchers wiht torches burn baby burn

          • NC

            DOES “MORALITY” HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH A CONGRESSMEN(R) WHO CHASE THE BOY PAGES OR TRY TO PICK UP VICE SQUAD COPS IN AIPORT REST ROOMS(R). IS THAT THE KIND OF “MORALITY’ YOU WONDER IF DEMOCRATS HAVE??

          • JC

            TARP, STIMULUS, MONETIZING DEBT all doublespeak for “printing money out of thin air and handing the taxpayer the bill with interest”.

            Anyone who can condone this is an idiot.

      • mrk

        You mean the “Bush recession” created by the Democrat-controlled House and Senate? You probably don’t recall that Bush tried to rein in Frannie and Freddie, but that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd wouldn’t let it happen–swearing that they were just fine. You forget that then Senator Obama was part of that Congress that created and approved the budgets that got us into the mess he “inherited”.

        • NC

          MRK, The Republicans controlled the White House with the veto power and both Houses of congress with hundreds of votes and you say one Democrat Senator and one congressmen kept you from doing what you wanted to do???I WOULD BE ASHAMNED TO ADMIT THAT. WHAT DID THE REPUBLICANS RUN FOR OFFICE FOR??? Were Dodd and Barney that much smarter than the entire Republican delegation??
          BTW, there is a video of bush making a speech IN 2002 concerning his beloved program of EVERY AMERICAN WHO WANTS A HOUSE SHOULD HAVE ONE in which he THANKS AND PRAISES fannie and freddie for their work in HELPING him with this program. He specifically thanks them for their help with home owners with” BAD CREDIT”. IT’S ON YOU TUBE IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH.
          2 YEARS LATER bush SOUGHT AND GOT A BILL FROM HIS REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS THAT EVEN ALLOWED TAXPAYERS MONEY TO BE USED TO MAKE THE DOWNPAYMENT ON THE LOW INCOME LOANS.SO MUCH FOR THE DEMOCRATS BEING THE CAUSE OF THE HOUSING COLLAPSE.

          • Ted Crawford

            Plug the deficit numbers onto a graph and you will notice that the Bush deficits bounced just above and just below the anual percentage leval. His average increase was 2.7%, the anual average was 2.6%, between 2001 and 2006. The rate began a sharpe increase mid-2007, just months into the term of the 110th. Congress, peaking in mid-2008 at 6+%.
            By Constitution, specifically Artical 1, Section 7, Clause 1, the responsibility rests with the Speaker of the House. Some things are difficult to determine, others, not so much!

          • DaveH

            Big Government is destroying our country. It doesn’t matter if they call themselves Democrats or Republicans. This isn’t a Football Game, NC.

        • Flashy

          mrk … that FNMA/Freddie argument is stale and holds no water. Fact is, FNMA and Freddie didn’t get into the high risk MBS game until late. The abuses weren’t theirs…FNMA/Freddie do not loan money. They guarantee and/or buy the paper.

          in addition, no one…and I will rpeat that slowly so you understand, no one ever held a gun to the heads of the lenders saying ‘make this loan’. yeah…the Right will point to the Community Reinvestment Act trying to refute that statement…but if anyone read that piece of legislation, it urges reinvestment, dictates proper documentation to ensure no redlining went on, but dies not “mandate” anything.

          BTW .. you should look at the number of SEC auditors that were let go in the first year of Bush II. Regulations were erased, and the number of oversight regulators decreased.

          Chew on that for awhile …

          • DaveH

            Here is some reality to offset Flashman’s distortions:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj29n1/cj29n1-3.pdf

            Now I sit back and wait for Flashman to bash Cato, as if his adolescent manipulating techniques amount to a rebut.

          • DaveH

            Flashman says “no one ever held a gun to the heads of the lenders saying ‘make this loan’”.
            Did anybody hold a gun to the head of the borrowers, Flashman?

          • Flashy

            Dave…first, that was a very thin opionion piece, not research at all…and spoke nothing about FNMA/Freddie except toss one or two claims out (which were thinly supported BTW). Obvious you never read that article nor the Hoover article from Mizes you post. LOL figures you don’t read what you use for support.

            As for borrowers taking the money. Let’s see..someone walks to you and says ‘hey buddy, wanna borrower a few hundred K to buy that house, and sell it in a few months and mad a few thousand?’ Who would say “no”? And do you blame them for saying “yes”?

            Now..if a bank comes to you and says “we’re going to take your money you gave us to safely hold, and roll the die hoping we’ll wion and we’ll make millions…or we may lose everything you have. We will invest in securities which we have no idea what they really do and how they will perform, and don’t worry because we’ll lie and package bad paper with good and sell that in case we lose on buying what the others are packaging and selling’. Oh…and don’t worry about the feds..they gutted the SEC so they have no clue what we are doing.”

            Which one do you think should be blamed?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Are you an Ostrich, who totally ignores current events? You must be, to call it the Bush recession. You need to do some reading about the Federal Reserve and how they create every boom and bust that we have experienced in the past 150 years. Yes the deficit spending slows economic growth, because it siphons off capital from the private sector. It has been proven time and time again that we cannot spend our way to prosperity.

        • Sirian

          It doesn’t really matter C.P. how many sources of info, books, articles etc. that we tell them to read in an effort to find out the truth – THEY WILL NEVER LOOK!! They don’t want to look!! It would burst their happy mindless bubble of “Uncle Sam will protect me better than anyone, God included!!”

          • DaveH

            I believe it’s because they don’t want to learn. They’re here to disrupt the board with their nonsense. That’s all.

          • Sirian

            Very true Dave, very true.

      • Eric

        Too easy… the DEMS under reid and pelosi ran both chambers of Congress.

      • G.B.

        Just look at the history of the stock market, it is only back to where it started. It has not gone up any higher. It just made up the ground it had lost. So climb off your fence post and stop crowing.

      • DaveH

        The Dow bottomed, NC, after Obama’s election. The wealthy people who invest aren’t stupid people.
        When Bush left office the unemployment rate was 8%. It is still 9% now after 3 years.
        And the Dow after 3 years is still just at the same nominal level (before adjustment for inflation) that it was more than 2 years ago, even though the dollar value against comparable currencies (Canadian Dollar, Australian Dollar, etc.) has plummeted about 30%.
        Here is an inflation adjusted Dow Jones Industrial average:
        http://home.earthlink.net/~intelligentbear/com-dj-infl.htm

        • NC

          DAVE THE DOW BOTTOMED OUT AT 6547 4O-5O DAYS AFTER OBAMA TOOK OFFICE AFTER FALLING STEADILY FOR THE LAST 15 MONTHS BUSH’S ADMINISTRATION> DO YOU THINK MAYBE THAT THE REASONS FOR IT’S 15 MONTHS DROP MIGHT JUST THE SAME REASON FOR THE LAST MONTH’S FALL?? CERTAINLY YOU ARE NOT SAYING OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE FALL?? i’M NOT SURE HE WAS EVEN THE LEADING DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE WHEN THE DOW COLLAPSE STARTED IN OCTOBER OF 2007.HAVE YOU SEEN “BULLS,BEARS DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” PULL IT UP AND TAKE A LOOK!!

          • JC

            Do you “get” that Bush and Obama are both bought and paid for Globalists who don’t give a damn about America?
            Do you understand the idiocy of the whole left/right argument?

      • clarence swinney

        GOOD HISTORY LESSON Per Achmed Swinney
        Prove me wrong with numbers not usual blarney blabbering vile ignorance.

        Clinton to Bush to Obama
        Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
        Numbers rounded

        Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
        Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

        Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
        Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

        Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
        Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

        Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
        Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

        Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
        Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

        Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
        Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

        Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
        Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

        Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
        Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
        Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
        Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
        Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
        Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
        Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000

        • Brad

          Clarence,

          4.5 Trillion in unbrideled deficit spending by this president and congress in less than 3 year’s.

        • Lee Baldwin

          clarence swinney will AGAIN vote for Harrison J. Bounel, Barry Soetoro, Barrack Obama (or whatever his real name is) clarence swinney has his head firmly stuck in the sand.

      • MNIce

        NC, the Dow is based on current dollar valuation. Since the Democrats took control of Congress in 2006, the dollar has lost about half its value (compare with gold or oil prices). Do the math, and you’ll discover the market has not improved significantly, if at all. Check out this: http://www.investorplace.com/2010/09/market-analysis-is-the-fed-juicing-the-market/

        • NC

          IF MEMORY SERVES ME THE EURO WAS WORTH ABOUT $.84 TO THE US DOLLAR WHEN BUSH TOOK OFFICE AND WORTH ABOUT $1.40 TO THE DOLLAR HIS LAST FULL MONTH IN OFFICE. IS THAT GOOD?? IT’S ABOUT THE SAME NOW AND OBAMA INHERITED A VERY WEAK ECONOMY AND HAS IMPROVED SOME ASPECTS OF IT WHILE BUSH TOOK A MUCH STRONGER ONE AND TRASHED IT.. AGREED?

      • Paula

        The last I heard there has been 43 actually attempts. But you are not so naive as to think that Obama had anything to do with thwarting them. I am sure that pulling our troops completely out of Iraq has not exactly made our nation safer. If you think for one minute we are safe from terrorists you are burying your head in the sand.

      • meteorlady

        So small history lesson here – Bush did not create the recession of the financial collapse. Bush went before the Senate Banking committee on 17 separate occasions to get controls on banking and loan guarantees by Fannie and Freddie.

        Here’s a little quesiton – Do you really believe that anything would have happened if Housing would not have collapsed?

        Clinton signed Fair Housing
        Clinton appointed Franklin Delano Raines as CEO of Fannie Mae
        Clinton signed the repeal of Glass-Steagall
        Clinton left a budget deficit of $17.9 BILLION the day Bush took office
        Clinton left a budget deficit of $133.4 BILLION the first full year Bush was in office
        Clinton lied about a surplus because he counted income from the Social Security Trust fund.
        Bush actually had the deficit coming down until Democrats gained control
        Clinton signed to allow drug companies to advertise

        You can find the deficits on most government websites – I found mine on the US Treasury website.

      • Houdini1984

        Ooh, NC… The Dow is at 12,000 – up since it bottomed out during the worst of the crash? So? You do recall that it was at 14,000 during GW’s second term, right?

        Yeah – that’s what the markets do. They rise and fall. You still have to face the fact that there are two million fewer jobs today than there were when Bush left office … that gas prices and the costs of nearly everything else are substantially higher than when Obama took the oath … that health care costs have continued to rise, and that health insurance costs are expected to rise another 10% this year.

        Don;t worry, though. I am certain that if you squint your eyes enough when you look at your Dear Leader you can still imagine that you see that same celestial glow you though you saw when you voted for him the first time.

    • RockyRoad

      I have believed for some time now the election process is rigged.

      I will still vote. To not vote would be a slap in the face of every hero that died for this nation.

      • meteorlady

        The fact that we GET to vote for the hand picked candidates is a sort of rigged election. The fact that we are brainwashed into believing that if we vote for third party’s candidate we are wasting our votes is trying to say the least.

        The fact that in Texas the Democrats rig the election process is very real. We have primaries and then they have caucuses. The last election Hilliary was elected in the primaries, but low and behold, Obama was elected in the caucuses and he got the nomination….

        In one place in Houston there are 8500 people with addresses, problem is, 15,437 voted from that area? Yet no one is asking how this happened.

        In the South we are getting sued by the Justice Department for requiring picture ID before you can vote. There are 5 kinds of ID recognized, yet they say that we are hindering minorities from voting. How?

    • Old Henry

      “Gee, guess it’s time to make room for a new face on Mount Rushmore.”

      Due to the fact that mining coal is practically illegal I doubt that will happen.

      “Oh, right, he did admit that, “… when it comes to the economy, we’ve got a lot more work to do.”

      Yes he does. He has not quite gotten it completely destroyed.

      He should be egotistic. He has done quite well with his campaign promise of “Fundamentally transforming the United States”, with I might add, the adoring approval of its brain-dead parasitic citizens – you know, the “47%ers”.

      I tell folks about Ron Paul anytime I can work him into a conversation. The other day as I was leaving a doctor appointment a guy commented on my Ron Paul cap so I used theoccation to do some educating. I gave him the Congressman’s web address and advised him to read what Ron Paul actually stands for and to not believe ANYTHING the MSM or even conservative talking heads spout.

    • Lee Baldwin

      Sorry, back-door exit? -I don’t think so. It should be the FRONT DOOR in handcuffs, hauled to the closest police cruiser and slammed around like everybody else that takes THAT ride, then slammed into JAIL. The ‘Barry Show’ has caused enough mayhem to substantiate arrest just with the one count of VOTER FRAUD of supplying a FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE to the pelosi. The FRAUD was against YOU and I and our children & Lady Liberty.

  • Insurgent

    Typical LFN———————–what is sad is the fact this lying SOB is an illegal born in Mombasa, Kenya.

    Please Kenya, come to the US and get your villiage idiot!!!!

  • Vagabond

    Chip the only time I have noticed obama lieing is every time he opens his mouth<

  • Pat

    We have a mentally insane person in the highest office of the land. God help America & pray there is something left of her when this evil is gone

    • Ellen

      Amen, Pat – my thoughts, exactly!

    • Insurgent

      And it does not say much for the incompetent mentally afflicted that put him there !!!

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I have offered the many books I have to the people that voted for Obama, to know avail. They choose ignorance over knowledge. If I knew they would vote for Obama again, I would probably delete them.

        • Flashy

          What are some of those books CB? I’d be interested …

          • DaveH

            Sure you would, Flashy. We believe that like we believe your other fabricated facts.

            But here’s one for anybody who sincerely wants to learn (that leaves out the board Propagandist):
            http://www.amazon.com/How-Capitalism-Saved-America-Pilgrims/dp/1400083311/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325260477&sr=8-1

          • Capitalist at Birth

            the Market For Liberty; Power To The People; Capitalism The Unknown Heart; Animal Farm; See I Told You So; Demonic; Brotherhood of Darkness; 1984; Atlas Shrugged; Liberty And Tyranny; The Manchurian President; Hamilton’s Curse; Common Sense; Crimes Against Liberty; A Short History of the World; Capitalism Unbound; Burcaurcray; To Renew America; After Shock; The Road to Serfdom; Economics in One Lesson; Catastrophe; Controversial Essays; Team of Rivals; Killing Lincoln; Obama Nation; Broke; The Fountainhead; Bad Trip; Anthem; $700 Billion Bailout to name a few. Any more questions Flashy.

          • clarence swinney

            Obama misspoke–He omitted Greatest Record.
            -CLINTON PRAISE-WITH PLEASURE
            GDP–rose from 6300 to 11,600
            NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion–took 20 years to grow 2500B before Clinton
            JOBS CREATED–over 22 million–record by far—record 237,000 net new jobs per month. Bush followed with 31,000 lowest since Hoover.
            AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS–$360 to $478
            AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED–never hit 35.0–hit that  mark 4 times in 80′s
            UNEMPLOYMENT–from 7.2% down down down to 3.9%
            WELFARE TO WORK—11,533,710 on federal roll in 1996 and 3,880,321 in 2007.
            MINIMUM WAGE–$4.25 to $5.15
            MINORITIES–did exceedingly well-His increase in Earned Income Tx Credit lifted millions of low income adults and families out of poverty annually.
            Clinton philosophy“If you work hard, play by the rules, you ought to be able to live a decent life”.Thanks Jesus.
            HOME OWNERSHIP–hit all time high
            DEFICIT–290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
            DEBT—-+30%—300% increase over prior 12 years
            FEDERAL SPENDING–+28%—80% under Reagan- who da true conservative?
            DOW JONES AVERAGE–3,500 to 11,800  all it’s history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
            NASDAQ–700 to 5,000—all of it’s history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
            VALUES INDEXES– almost all bad went down–good went up in zoom zoom zoom
            FOREIGN AFFAIRS–Peace on Earth good will toward each other—Mark of a true Christian–what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
            POPULARITY—highest poll ratings  in history during peacetime in  AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE even 98.5% in Moscow–left office with highest gallup rating since it was started in 1920′s.
            STAND UP FOR JUSTICE–evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught— ONE— very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
            BOW YOUR HEADS–Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton’s character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world.
            THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.

          • daniel

            Flashy be honest. Apparently you have not even checked out the previous links you were supplied with.

          • Flashy

            Sure did Daniel. Found them not even close to what was represented. Did you check them out to find that out as well? CB…I have indeed read some of those books. I printed the list and will peruse them next time I hit the bookstore. Since I go there quite often, I’ll take a look at them.

            Want my list of suggested readings?

          • meteorlady

            Yah right Clarence.
            Fair Housing – collapse of the housing market, stock market, mortgage market, personal credit and a depression.

            Appointment of Franklin Delano Raines as Fannie Mae CEO – changed the accounting practices to collect over $100 MILLION in illegal bonuses and never prosecuted. Fannie bailed out with taxpayer dollars.

            Repeal of Glass-Stegall – letting banks and wall street do their work without oversight.

            Allowing drug companies to advertise adding BILLIONS to the price of prescription drugs.

            Not doing anything about the first trade center bombings, the USS Coal, our embassies and setting us up for 9/11 by ignoring intelligence about bin Laden

            Embarrassment in front of the entire world for b l o w jobs in the oval office.

            A lot of people died strangely and timely that had links to the Clintons.

            There were accusations in Arkansas when he was governor that he took bribes monthly from Tyson Chicken. One of the pilots that flew the money to Little Rock spoke out and was threatened.

            All around good fellow Clinton…..

    • NC

      Pat,this is America,the greatest nation in the world. We have survived Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon and the bush boys and we will continuse to survive. It would help if the birther,paranoid,and ignorant wingnuts would get off the Faux Noise koolade and ask their congressmen to start helping with the recovery from the bush recession and come out of denial that it really happened.

      • Pat

        You kool aid drinking lefties just cannot get off the blame it on Bush can you?

      • ValDM

        NC,
        REALLY????? It’s 3 years later & it’s still Bush’s fault???? Good grief, you need to open your eyes to what’s really going on. Unemployment is still so high, it’s embarrassing. Taxes are going up thanks to O’care. $4.5 million in vacations (& rising) for the Mooch & her husband. EPA & FDA running completely amok making legislation all on their own……..and the list goes on, & on, & on……..

      • DaveH

        Herbert Hoover was a big mistake. But his mistaken policies were continued under Franklin Roosevelt and worse.
        NC would know that if he wasn’t a blindered Liberal Zealot:
        http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/how-this-happened.html

      • clarence swinney

        Each “significant” Depression and “Recession” since 1900
        has been under a so called Conservative President
        Since 1980 a lil review of facts not blarney

        3 so called Conservative Presidents–18 years so called conservative Senate–12 years so called conservative House and Worst-6 years Total Conservative Control ala 1920s.
        Initiated our involvement in 10 foreign conflicts
        Took 600 budget to 3500(less wjc itsy bitsy)
        took less than 1000b debt to 10,000
        took 218,000 net new jobs per month to 99,000
        Invaded two of most destitute and unarmed nations on earth.
        Ruined our reputation worldwide
        Allowed Wall Street(ala 1920s) to run wide in Housing Robberies and Financial Casino Derivative Gambling.

        Someone explain to me how–4 banks can be involved in a 230,000 Billion Gambling racket with fewer than 9000B in Bank Deposits.
        In a poker game you bet 200,000 with 9000 in pocket you get throat slit. Explain Please.
        Cut Taxes biggie for Rich.
        Unfinanced Part D Medicine

        Tax & Spend-=pay your way the Democrat Way
        Spend & Borrow = let kids pay Tomorrow the Conservative way

        Smaller Government the Conservative= Enrich The Rich ditch the rest
        Since 1980, Reagan 60% Tax Cut for top 10% began it
        Now
        10% own 70% Net Wealth——-80% own 15%
        10% own 70% Financial Wealth 80% own 7%
        10% take 46% individual Income 70,000,000 take 13%

        Haiti? Nope! Congo? Nope! Mexico? Nope!
        Haw River Perhaps

        • MNIce

          Clarence Swinney, Ronald Reagan was elected in the middle of DEMOCRAT Jimmy Carter’s recession (remember “malaise”, “stagflation” and the “Misery Index”). G. W. Bush was elected just after the peak of the Dot.Com crash, and almost immediately was faced with the fallout from the Enron collapse, followed by the 9/11 attack. Guess who was president when Enron and the Dot.Com bubbles were popping? That’s right, DEMOCRAT Bill Cllinton.

          If you compare the accumulated interest on the National Debt extant when Jimmy Carter left office with Ronald Reagan’s deficits, you will discover the amounts are amazingly similar. In other words, President Reagan would have had nearly balanced budgets if he had not had to service the debt left by his predecessors. This is clearly not the case with present occupant of the White House. He is borrowing almost six times the debt interest – almost 10% of the GDP – every year! This is simply irresponsible.

          • NC

            The NBER has been doing economic research and supplying it to the government for years> They also have used the same methods for determining the beginning and ending of recessions for years. Pull up their list of recessions with beginning and ending dates and see just how many BEGAN during Republican administrations as opposed to Democrat administrations> Somehting like 7 of the last 8 have been during Republican administrations! You sure are an unlucky bunch!! It’s like Obama said!
            trickle down has NEVER WORKED!!
            I READ NOT LONG AGO THAT BIG BUSINESS HAS THE LARGEST CASH RESERVE IT HAS HAD IN HISTORY> LETS GUESS WHERE THAT CAME FROM! TAX BREAKS FROM REPUBLICANS THEY HAVE HOARDED SINCE 2001!! YOU KNOW THE MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO TRICKLE DOWN AND CREATE THE JOBS THAT WERE GOING TO PRODUCE THE BUSH UTOPIA OF A 5TRILLION SURPLUS BY 2011. HOW DID THAT WORK OUT?? 10 TRILLION IN DEBT!!!!! AND REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO ASK AMERICANS IN 2012 TO LET THEM TRY THAT MESS AGAIN???

        • meteorlady

          Did it occur to you that it takes some years for an action to get a reaction? Or are you really that unintelligent? Look to what happened before they took power. Clinton is a prime example….

          Fair Housing – everyone deserves a home….. so

          Houses started getting easier to buy, demand went up, prices went up and people started refinancing to buy cars, boats, TV, pay off credit cards, etc. Each year when their home was worth more and more they did the same thing. As a result investors started seeking homes to flip and make a profit. Meanwhile Fannie and Freddie were busy guaranteeing loans that they didn’t have the money to cover and the Senate Banking Committee (Dodd & Frank) kept telling everyone that it was all good and they were doing what they were supposed to do.

          Housing becomes unaffordable and price start dropping taking the stock market, the mortgage market, banks and wall street along for the ride. MILLIONS of construction jobs are lost and builders go bankrupt. People start loosing their jobs and homes and the stock market keeps falling so retirees and people saving for retirement loose tons of their hard earned money.

          During this time Bush went to the Senate Banking Committee and various other committees to audit Fannie and Freddie to no avail. I’m not a Bush fan, but hey, you can’t blame him for the housing collapse and the depression. You have to go back for that and that would be Clinton, Dodd, Frank and company.

          Yup Clinton did a real good job….

      • JC

        NC says:
        December 30, 2011 at 8:06 am
        Pat,this is America,the greatest nation in the world. We have survived Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon and the bush boys and we will continuse to survive. It would help if the birther,paranoid,and ignorant wingnuts would get off the Faux Noise koolade and ask their congressmen to start helping with the recovery from the bush recession and come out of denial that it really happened.
        ____________________________________________________

        Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush, Blame Bush,
        Yell racist! Yes we can yes we can yes we can…ZEIG HEIL ZEIG HEIL! ;)

      • Aurelio

        NC, it was not the Bush’s recession, rather, the Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae recession, instigated by Barney Frank. The Bush Admin. warned Congress several times about Freddie and Fannie; Alan Greenspan also testified and warned about the mortgage bubble. So stop blaming Bush whose unemployment rate was way below, and try to use the little brain that you have left to remember gas prices and inflation under Bush. Your community organizer, the most unqualified of all candidates ever to run for President, had three years to help solve or at least improve the situation; instead, he has spent in only three years more than twice the amount that took Bush eight to spend.

      • meteorlady

        How I now tell a true liberal is that they are not intelligent enough to state facts or links, they just insult and mouth what they have heard or read in the lame stream media.

  • Mike

    Shocked? Lying is what liars do.

  • http://facebook Namvet USMC

    At least Obama can count on a bunch of Left Liberals, OWS Anarchists,
    World Socialists, Communists, and his Muslim Brothers to vote for him, they support and defend Obama, like a gang of idolizing groupies…

    • Karolyn

      You are wrong. If you bothered to investigate any liberal sites, you would see that many on the left are NOT happy with Obama. They feel he has sold out. Although I do not think they would vote for Romney, Gingrich or Perry, they, like I, might vote for Paul.

      • s c

        k, that’s a most curious position. You need to have a serious talk with ‘e’ and the rest of the utopian herd on this website.
        Most of them think Obummer can walk on water, bring the dead back to life, turn water into wine and probably should be prez for the rest of his miserable life. After all, it’s not every day that we get god in the W H.

      • DaveH

        If the Liberals are unhappy with Obama, it’s only because he hasn’t been Liberal enough for them, if anybody can imagine him being any more Liberal.

        • JeffH

          Exactly!

      • clarence swinney

        BERNIE SANDERS YEH YES WOW WHOOPEE

  • k

    Why is a non-citizen, lying, big spender, big ego, no experience, muslim running, I mean ruining our country????????

    • NC

      Tell again what a good job that white “daddy’s boy” from Crawford Texas did for our country? America watched him for 8 years and gave him a grade of 26% approval rating. bush incompetence put Obama in the White House.That and Caribou Barbie on the Republican ticket.

      • s c

        NC, thanks for admitting that Obummer doesn’t belong in the White House. Actually, he shouldn’t be allowed within 1,000 miles of it, but that’s another matter. Gee, isn’t it nice to agree with conservatives once in a while?

      • mrk

        Again–Congress was controlled by democrats–Obama included in that group. Pretty tough to fight Congress on everything.

      • Lastmanstanding

        NC…why don’t you use something call the internet (before they shut it down)to research that bush and barry are both fascists and are on the same team…play us against one another is the easist way to get what they want…to control the earth and dictate what happens.

        They have all the answers…we are here to serve them.

        Not going to happen…vote Ron Paul…True Americans have had enough!

        • Sirian

          BINGO!! They’ll never catch on to the game LMS, never.

        • DaveH
          • Lastmanstanding

            We do and will continue to contribute to Ron’s victory!

      • DaveH

        Do two wrongs make a right in your Liberal World, NC?

        • JC

          I’m guessing NC is on loan from the Huff Post or Obama Watch.
          Either way he’s just another anti-American socialist creep.

      • Dale on the left coast

        NC . . . 2007 the last Repub budget . . . deficit 160 Billion, Unemployment around 4% . . . contrast that to the Dimmicrap Congress of 2008 onward . . . 1.6 TRILLION Deficits to NOW, 9% unempoloyment . . . actually closer to 20% in most areas . . . and the Illegal in the WH is still stuckonstupid . . .
        NC . . . name One Bush policy the O changed . . . besides stopping drilling for oil? Why do you suppose he hid all his records of his Million Dollar Education? Who do you suppose paid for it?

        • NC

          Dale, don’t talk to me about bush deficts> Deficits come from over spending on the budgets>BUSH FOUGHT ONE WAR FOR 7 YEARS AND ANOTHER FOR 5 YEARS WITHOUT EITHER ONE BEING PAID FOR OUT OF HIS BUDGETS> THESE WARS WERE PAID FOR FROM SPECIAL ( ADDITIONAL) FUNDS VOTED ON SEPARATELY BY CONGRESS WHEN ASKED FOR BY THE ADMINISTRATION (BUSH).DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HIS BUDGETS AND DEFICITS WOULD HAVE BEEN IF HE HAD INCLUDED THE COSTS OF THE WARS IN THEM??????????? REMEMBER HIS SEC. OF DEFENSE SAID THE WAR IN IRAQ WOULD NOT LAST MORE THAN 6 MONTHS AND ONE OF HIS FINANCIAL ADVISERS SAID THE COST OF IRAQ WOULD BE 50-60 BILLION!@ YEAH,
          i GUESS OBAMA DID NOT DISCUSS HIS EDUCATION COST FOR THE SAME REASON BUSH BLACKED OUT PART OF HIS MILITARY RECORDS>

      • meteorlady

        NC I actually read most of your comments. You are stuck int he past and you have an unnatural hatred for Bush based on the liberal press bashing. There are many sites, including US government sites that have FACTS posted such as the actual deficit when Clinton left office of $17.9 BILLION which he claimed as surplus by counting Social Security income and a few obscure accounting tricks. In fact, Bush’s first full year was under a Clinton signed budget and the deficit was $133.4 BILLION

    • clarence swinney

      BECAUSE HE MAY BE BETTER THAN
      BRAIN DEAD AFFABLE DUNCE IN ALZI
      LIFETIME FAILURE WITH WARPED MIND FROM 20 YEAR AS DRUNKARD

      WHO KNOWS?

      • Jibbs

        CS, your a mindless, clueless dork that spouts crap.

      • meteorlady

        He still has more class than Obama. Did you know that once each week people would go to DFW airport and greet the troops? Every few months the George and Laura show up and stand in line and shake hands.

        George and Laura showed up at Ft. Hood, unannounced and without press, after the terrorist went crazy, and spend hours visiting the wounded.

        Bush has NEVER blamed one single thing on anyone. He stands dignified in the background and give very few interviews, but refused to talk politics or even say anything bad about Obama.

        That’s Class – Obama lacks it all the way.

  • Ken Boston Republican

    The dem’s are good at the game, they know the sizzle is better than the steak. Ignorance is bliss for them. Dem’s know that perception is reality for the 45% who rely on the gov’t to survive (and thrive under Obama). The scary reality for us is merely the fact that Obama actually BELIEVES he is doing right for America. So did LBJ and how is that “Great Society” working for you?

    • DaveH

      Here is reality:
      http://heritage.org/index/ranking

      The trough-feeders better wake up soon, because they will be the last in line when our country becomes a third-world nation. The useless idiots are always the first to be eliminated.

      • clarence swinney

        THANKS. I DID NO REALIZE WE WERE IN TOP 10.I CELEBRATE
        OECD rankings
        4th on Inequality
        3rd on Least Taxed
        2nd of least taxed corporations
        #1 on citizens in jail
        #1 on divorce
        #1 numbers of times Jesus Christ screamed at us
        “WHAT THE HELL”

        • DaveH

          The point is, Clarence, the results of Big Government. Prosperity is inversely proportional to the size of Government.
          We’ve got a ways to go, for sure, but we’re going in the wrong direction.

          • Brad

            DaveH,

            All hard core democrats/leftists/progressives can’t see the forest because of the tree’s. Evan though we have learned and see the light not all can see and as often as we try there will be those who dought and call us names.

        • meteorlady

          So Clarence – what does this mean then? We are 4th in the world for highest taxes and some site say we are second only behind Japan.

          I’m in business and when I get done paying taxes I’m not making much anymore so how do you expect me to expand and grow? I also don’t have enough new customers to buy my products so why would I grow when I can’t sell what I produce?

          http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0204.html

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS in Australia

    In my opinion the Obama publicity train will not be as a big a problem as your suggesting although I do suggest you pre[are for the onslaught, however the biggest and best asset you have is Dr Ron Paul himself as he is not only a real geniune person but he is much wiser than combined intellect of the entire administrations put together, but whilst I might have my doubts that he will have the power to change the direction of the American economic model on his own. His campaign is turning heads and he is winning debates with plain and simple logic ….but will it be enough and will the Republicans support him or will we end up with one of the same other disgraceful selection of undiciplined candidates. If the republicans really believe in financial and diplomatic responsibility then they can do no better than Dr RON PAUL. I’M SURE his logic alone will lure voters of both sides to come out in their droves to vote for him without any grand promises.

    • DaveH

      Wow, Gilly, I guess Liberals can learn after all.

    • meteorlady

      The Republican machine support Romney – they have since 2008 when he stepped aside for McCain. They can’t and won’t support Dr. Paul because he scares the crap out of a lot of them that are on the gravy train that is congress.

      I vote for him every chance I get and he’s is honest and works hard. He’s getting attacked now be the liberals because he gave a few speeches before the John Birch Society (which I don’t consider bad). He is also being labeled racist but that’s simply not true and they have not provided any evidence that is factual to support that claim.

      It’s like Cain – no real evidence to support the claim, just a couple of women (with financial problems) coming forward to make a claim. seems Obama used this tactic on his opponents when he ran for congress in Illinois eliminating the front runners one at a time.

  • Terry

    Socialism and communism is alive and well in the United States, Ive Known this And watched it cimming for 50 years, through the news Media , just look at the propaganda that they put out ; they constantly , form public openion ! instead of just reporting the facts! Hollywood also played a large part in this also. this is how they brainwash the masses. but most people are too naive and busy to recognize what is happening their Freedoms !most wont miss anythig until it is gone , and then it will be too late..

    • Aurelio

      Terry you are right on the money. I have never seen a country with the highest standard of living in the world, and an undeterred freedom of expression or movement to do everything in their power to destroy it!

  • Juan

    The sad thing is that Obama believes what is coming out of his lying mouth. His ego is bigger than the national debt.

  • http://windows VINNIE

    I am a registered Democrat.I wouldn’t vote for Obama,& I didn’t last time.He is trying to lead this country into a Muslim nation,a bankrupt nation .a constitution destroyer.Pretty soon if he has his way the white house will B painted black & the christmas tree will b replaced with a Black walnut tree to fit the white,I mean the black housenut that resides their.

    • Lastmanstanding

      God bless you Vinnie…I am a conservative registered repub. I didn’t vote for barry either and I’m ashamed to say that I voted for that progressive/commie mccain. He and his family are no more than elites paid by the bigger elites to steal our freedom.

      I am ashamed of nearly all of the 535 power hungry, money grabbing above the law individuals that “have our best interests at heart”

      I am proud to say that I am now a conservative libertarian…We own 2 businesses and will never let the govt break us…I am sick of the need to make war for profit of a few…My family has paid a high price in these wars since ww2…Americans have had it.

      We are voting for Ron Paul if we have to use dirt from the earth and our fingers to scrawl his name onto the ballot…We donate to him what we can and discuss him and attempt to convert everyone that we know to support him also…Its funny that he is the only veteran who has served running for office that hs the “peace not war” stance.

      I will never again waste my vote on the lesser of two evils…our kids and grandkids are depending on us.

      • Flashy

        Out of curiousity…are you voting for your incumbent Congressional rep and Senator ?

        • DaveH

          Duh.

        • Lastmanstanding

          NOT A F%$^&%G OF THAT HAPPENING FLASHY! Everyone needs to go…an most should go to a prison overseen by their constituents.

          • Jibbs

            Prison! I think they all should have a date with the gallows and hemp rope!!!!

        • Sirian

          That question deserves a counter question, are you? From your usual stance, more than likely.

          • Flashy

            Actually…I’ve answered that several times in the past. I won’t vote incumbent. If primary’d, they do not get my vote. Since they all have primary opponents..the new guys will receive my vote.

    • clarence swinney

      BANKRUPTING
      Reagan increased Spend 80% debt 180%
      Bush 92% and 112%
      Bush took a 5700 debt(after 225 years) and added 6000.
      Bush took an 1830 budget to 3500.
      Bush took 240B surplus to 1400 Deficit
      Bush took Peace on earth to Hell on Earth
      Bush took 237,000 new jobs per month to 31,000 lowest since Hoover

      Lord Barack inherited the biggest mess in our history
      No one could do a quick turnaround with an oppositiom party that has no integrity and is determined to beat him even if it destroys the Middle Class. Just help the Rich in Wall Street Casino of America
      land of Christians??????
      Jesus screams at us “WHAT THE HELL?”
      Party of Spend & Borrow let kids pay tomorrow
      14000 borrowed instead of tax rich to pay our way the true Jesus Way

      • Brad

        Clarence,

        Lord Barack has led this country to highest poverty levels 15.1% including adding 4.5 trillion to the national debt congress is to blame also Clarence. Carter left the US in recession which Reagan cleaned up, Clinton left Bush II a recession which he and congress cleaned up. Right now no one is saying Bush II was the best but right now today what we have is a sluggish economy, GDP growth around 1.9% no real new jobs being created except for part time and seasonal. Official un-employmed 13.157 million Real un-employed 23.824 million all from the US national debt clock.

      • Jibbs

        lord bankrupt, just another illegal POS!!

      • meteorlady
      • meteorlady

        So using your “quick turn-around” it would appear that Bush inherited a lot from Clinton right?

  • AJ

    Obama gets away with lying because of the ignorance of the masses, the
    support of a bought off media and a billionares bet of one dollar that they could take a sows ear and make a silk purse out of it. Kind of reminds me of a movie called trading something or other with Dan and Eddie. Wonder if Soreass won the bet?

  • Insurgent

    The price America continues to pay for the southern plantation owners buying slaves is astronomical; unfortunately, the cost is growning greater every day.

    • http://www.motorcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Yes Insurgent it is a wonder how we all still pay the price for the plantation owners in the south who bought the slaves from their own frican grand parents whom sold them to the American farmers which in reality gave them a better life from the spear chunking deseased nation they came from.

      • Karolyn

        Who are you to disparage somebody’s culture? Oh, yeah, they just loved being taken away from their families, losing their freedom and being forced to do the bidding of their masters. Oh, yeah, their life was so much better – NOT! I guess you think that bringing Christianity and the European concept of how to live to the original Americans was a big boon to them too?

        • libertytrain

          I think the travesty was they were sold by THEIR OWN RACE OF PEOPLE to other black and white folks here and the rest of the world.

        • Brad

          Yes Karolyn,

          Please do yourself a favor and research slaverys past before posting you will find the white man didn’t sell the black man into slavery it was other african blacks and muslims. While you are at it just research all slavery you will be surprised what countries have been put into slavery and in who’s name and it isn’t Jesus Christ.

          • Karolyn

            I never said the white man sold the black man into slavery, but he sure took advantage of the proposition. There was a white broker in between the seller and buyer.

        • Dale on the left coast

          “I guess you think that bringing Christianity and the European concept of how to live to the original Americans was a big boon to them too?”
          Karolyn . . . is running a Casino better than roaming the plains killing buffalos and each other for hundreds of years?

          • Karolyn

            OMG! What a skwed concept you have. You value materialism over living a life of reverence for the earth, wildlife and freedom. And I’m sure the Euuropeans bringing booze, disease and even more death than they already had was a real boon too! We all would just love to have foreigners come here and force their way of living on us, wouldn’t we?

          • Flashy

            i dunno Dale. Seems to me they thought it was. They fought like hel* to preserve that way of life.

        • Jibbs

          Hey smarty pants, the first slaves were white….do some research and come out from under that rock!!

  • Larry S

    Narcissism is alive and doing well in the White House!

  • Martin Fee

    I have often asked those foolish OWS kids to point out the millionaires who do not pay taxes. Not suprisingly not a single one of them could name one. Though the name Soros comes up alot.
    They then say those evil rich people do not pay their fair share to which I ask How much did you pay in taxes last year, which for most the answer is ZERO. I then go on to say that I think it’s amusing that people who paid NOTHING are crying that someone else is not paying more. This usually makes them very angry and subjects me to many a “Down Twinkle” Whether its obama or these fools they are all FULL OF SH*T

    • skippy

      hahahhaa Martin!!! Nice post!!

    • michael

      Martin
      you are a moron

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Why, exactly do you call someone a moron?

        • Stephen

          If you have read any of his posts, you’ll see that Michael is the proverbial “Rebel without a clue”.

    • Sirian

      Uh, COWS Martin F., COWS – Crazy Occupy Wall Streeters. They are being herded around by the Unions, Alinskyites, Soros and several other extreme anarchy seekers without a smidgen of common sense. HA, it’s so funny to watch the COWS being led to repeat what one is saying over and over. It does carry a very close resemblance to a herd of cows baying for hay, doesn’t it?

    • clarence swinney

      Your names at ctj.org
      corp B in profit pay no tax
      Top 50% in 2008 paid 10% of “Total” Income
      Got 87% Total Income–50% had 13% of income yuk 70,000,000 workers
      In 2008 Corp paid 12.5% Tax Rate
      Amigo that is why in oecd nations we rank
      3rd least taxes
      2nd in taxing corp.
      4th on inequality

      • Brad

        This president and congress spent 4.5 trillion in deficit spending within three year’s of Ohmama’s innaugeration.

    • Jibbs

      Your 100% correct, HIGH FIVE!!!

    • daniel

      Kind of put a finger on the point there. I think that there should be a sales tax alone and trash the IRS. At the very least a national head tax. Let everyone put some skin in this game called a Constitutional Republic. I bet that would be a game changer if bad decisions cost people money. Heaven help us if we become a true democracy where mob majority rules.

  • Puyaidon

    I hate to burst your bubble but you said that there were those who would get money from the government and vote for the “Wiz.” Not me bubba, I finally get an IRS refund after three years but will vote for anyone other than the Jackass party. How someone so idiotic can say he is one of the four best presidents? Is he having LSD flashbacks?

  • skippy

    Thanks Chip – Nice article!!!
    And a very, very Happy New Year to you and and all at Personal Liberty Digest! :)
    Let’s hope November 2012 will be a great victory for all of us, including the ‘founding fathers’.

  • Bob

    If Obama wins re-election, and gets to appoint any more supreme court justices, the phrase: ” Life as we have known it to be in this country will cease to exist” will ride right along beside its cousin. 9-1-1

    • dave

      Who appointed the judges that allowed corporations to be considered people and allowed them unlimited campaign contributions? Yeah, more of those decisions are really gonna get us where we want to go.

      • DaveH

        Duh, the corporations aren’t people? Damn, have I been asleep that long? Are they robots now?

        • clarence swinney

          Fed fund elections–
          6 months
          3 primary 3 general
          Free equal tv time
          Debate a week=12=adequate to evaluate candidates
          No $$$$$ None=O

          Congress + White House can accept NOTHING OF VALUE
          end of Lobbying end of buying our government

          Simple but will do the job

          HANDICAP $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ owns our current government

  • Gerri Randall

    It’s up to people and 2012 is the year to take our country back. Everyone in Washington now to be reelected needs to go. PERIOD. Clean house and put some people who know this country and loves her and will support her in office. That is at the local, State and National level. Obama is not an American and the people put him in office without checking out the facts and they listen to the fly by nights. Now we are paying big time. So when you go to the polls vote seriously and vote for people who will stand up for America as we once knew her. Vote for Grassroots conservative and I’m not for the liberal Republicans. That my friends we have now they are not Republicans.I am a grassroots Republican conservative be careful how you vote. Check to see if they are genuine or lying.They will say anything to get elected. DON’T TRUST THEM.

  • JimmySan

    (offensive comment removed)

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Resorting racist remarks demeans your person.

    • Sirian

      JimmySan, JimmySan, please return to the penalty box and fume all you like. If you can’t say anything that shows no more semblance of character than that, well, you’ve pegged yourself quite nicely.

  • TriumphOver Evil

    The sad thing is that some people can’t look past their ‘entitlement’ checks to count the many lies Barack Obama has told. They’ll never be able to see evil until they look into a mirror and yell ‘WAKE UP’ loud enough and long enough that they actually see a human being in the mirror and not a robot and slave.

    Ninety nine percent of the people in this country are to be blamed for the downfall of this country. They didn’t yell loud enough when things happened and now wonder what went wrong. Let’s take a look:
    1)American’s have a murderous drug cartel (CIA) operating on their
    soil but they do nothing.
    2)They didn’t protest when President Wilson singed the Federal
    Reserve System into law.
    3)The people didn’t protest when elected officials decided to
    create an unconstitutional agency (IRS) to steal their money.
    4)They didn’t protest when officials decided to charge rent
    (property taxes) on their lands and homes.
    5)They haven’t protested loud enough about the poisons being
    released into the air and put into their foods.
    6)They don’t protest about cancer virus’s being put in vaccines,
    and wait in lines at drug stores to get their injections, and
    the list goes on and on.

    And now they’re sitting on their a$$’$ wondering when Obama is coming to their rescue to pay their rent and put gas in their cars. Continue sitting people and some day your unrealistic dreams might hatch while you’re in a FEMA camp and used as a guinea pig.

    • Lastmanstanding

      …I occasionally wonder what happened to that guy who sounded like a walrus in fla. and the gas/mortage lady in chi…when someone mentions it…

      Nothing…just part of the show until it’s time for them(useless eaters) to “go”

    • clarence swinney

      They were silent when:
      Bush deliverd KO to Middle Class after Reagan belly punch
      Clinton to Bush to Obama
      Who Dug the Deep Hole? Who Fumbled the ball?
      Numbers rounded

      Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
      Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

      Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
      Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

      Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
      Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

      Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
      Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

      Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
      Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

      Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
      Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

      Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
      Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

      Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
      Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
      Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
      Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
      Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
      Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
      Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000

      • Brad

        Clarence, Ohmamas 4.5 trillion in less than three year’s.

  • ddh

    The man throws a lot words around, with no sweat or calluses to back it up, when men like our fathers spoke their words meant something, they fought the wars and worked to make a life for their family, they didn’t talk values they lived them, and never needed spin doctors to clarify where they stood. That is what America is, and always been. Like being a Christian, its our walk not our talk, Its time, we need to get back to whats real, we need to make America real again, forget the words and walk the walk.

  • Retired USAF Chief

    If his mouth is moving, he’s llying

    • clarence swinney

      can he docu 935 as was done on Bush + 11 staffers on wmd
      or 300 in book “Ronald Reagan there he goes again”

      950 + 300 is a BUNCH

      • Dale on the left coast

        Clarence . . . how long you been stuckonstupid?
        The US soon to be 16 TRILLION in Debt . . . are you concerned?
        Been payin attention to Europe and Japan? Japan has been doing “stimulus” for 20 years . . . zero results. The Euro will probably collapse next year, along with Greece, Spain and Italy.
        You like numbers . . . ever calculate the Interest on the National Debt? It is already enough to finance most of the Chinese military . . . soon it will be over 50% of all Federal Taxes collected . . . what happens then Clarence? I’ll tell you . . . all the handout crowd will be in the streets, just like Greece . . . comin for your stuff!!!

        • Flashy

          Actually…if you followed the economics of Japan, they tried the exact opposite of a ‘stimulus’. That is why they have what they call “the lost decade”. Bernanke actually made his mark studying how and why Japan’s efforts at repairing their economy failed. Ironic…what Japan tried is what the GOP and the right espouse for our economy.

          but that’s OK. it didn’t work with Hoover. It didn’t work with Japan. But it sure as heck will work today …. right? jeesh

  • Jimbo

    Whenever Obama supporters try to defend their guy, the “defense” is always that Bush was just as bad!

    I’m a life long conservative and a veteran. Personally, I think Bush was an AWFUL president. He’s one of the biggest reasons we wound up with Obama. People were so disgusted with Bush they thought anyone offering “change” would be better. That, and the fact that 90% of the black community they won’t even consider voting for anyone who isn’t black.

    • dave

      Jumbo, that is just idiotic bigotry on your part.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Would carbon trading Al Gore, or Swift Boat John Kerry have been better? The Bush family are not true Conservative Libertarians. They are connected to the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party, as I believe Romney and Perry are as well. You might call them Hamiltonians.

      • DaveH

        Who would ever confuse the Bushes with a Libertarian?
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • clarence swinney

        AL GORE WON AND WAS ELECTED( NOT SELECTED)
        A LOOK AT A DIFFERENT 2010
        He would have continued Clinton/Newt Fiscal Policies of Pay Your Way
        We would continue to have Surpluses not Debt as far as the eye can see
        Debt today would be 6000B not 12000B
        2010 Budget would be 3000B not 3800
        Unemployment would be 5% not the real 17%.
        Food Stamp Roll would be 10% not 40%
        Unemployment Insurance Roll would be low
        Redistribution of Wealth back to Middle Class would have continued
        The top 1% would own 20% not 43% of Total Financial Wealth
        He would have continued Taxing the top 1%
        Wall Street Regulators would be under experts not Partners In Crime
        We would have 400 military bases not 800 worldwide
        We would not have two wars
        We would not have lost thousands of lives of young youths
        Hundreds of thousands of Muslims would still be alive
        Thousands of young Muslims would still have legs feet and minds
        America would still be the most admired nation on Earth not the most despised
        We would go back to behaving as a Christ-Like nation via our national policies
        Millions would own homes not foreclosure notices
        States would not be laying off hundreds of thousands in such important jobs as
        Teaching and Policing California would have a balanced budget
        John Kerry would be President.
        Sound common sense policies would continue.

        • Dale on the left coast

          Clarence . . . if the Intelligence Challanged Al Bore was elected . . . the US would have collapsed under the weight of “Cap and Trade” five years ago . . . C & T would have made Al and his friends Very Rich . . . but unemployment would be 30% today . . .

          • Flashy

            got ny proof or documentation on that claim there Dale?

        • Dale on the left coast

          Clarence . . . if the Intelligence Challanged, earth worshipping Al Bore was elected . . . the US would have collapsed under the weight of “Cap and Trade” five years ago . . . C & T would have made Al and his friends Very Rich . . . but unemployment would be 30% today . . .

    • Flashy

      lay blame where it is. Reagan began the war of Amrican workers and the Middle Class, Bush/Cheney almost finshed the job.

      • DaveH

        The war on the middle class is purely a result of Big Government, a Big Government that takes 40% of our GDP. Who here would voluntarily buy the services that Big Government offers for 40% of their income?

        • Capitalist at Birth

          I believe Flashy would with more than 40% of someone other than his own wealth.

      • clarence swinney

        Reagan + BusH I + Bush II created 99,000 net new jobs per month
        over 20 years.
        In 12 years Carter + Clinton created 222,000 per month
        JOBS PER PRESIDENT
        per year
        Clinton–2,900,000
        Carter—-2,600,000
        LBJ——2,300,000
        Reagan–2,000,000
        Nixon—-1,700,000
        JFK——-1,200,000
        Truman—1,100,000
        Ford———745,000
        Bush I——-625,000
        IKE———-438,000
        Bush II——375,000

        Democrats = 10,100,000
        Republican = 5,883,000

        Tax & Spend=Pay your way create jobs today
        Spend & Borrow kids pay tomorow on unemployment lines of gop

        • Brad

          Clarence,

          So far in three year’s Ohmama’s jobs growth has been a misrable .62% so what’s your point… Oh that’s right 4.5 trillion in new deficit spending, wow.

      • Jibbs

        Talk about cluless, jeeeeeeZ!!!!!!

  • herb

    Unfortunatly Obama only has 5 more years to undo the mess the idiotic war mongrol republican eletists left him

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Have you chosen ignorance over knowledge?

      • Flashy

        I would say you have made that choice CB… why would anyone want to chose such seeing what it has done to you?

        • DaveH

          Flashy, Crony Capitalist is head-over-heals more knowledgeable than you.

          • Capitalist at Birth

            Adding Crony to my title is beneath you Dave H. You have know idea what me political and economic outlook actually is. You have made an assumption, based on my non support of your idol Ron Paul. Do you remember what they say about assuming? I suggest you review the list of SOME of the books I have read in response to Flashy’s inquiry, before making a bigger ass of yourself and me.

          • DaveH

            Insofar as Ron being the only standing candidate who wants to Free up our Marketplace, CC, what else can I conclude?

          • DaveH

            The only conclusion I can come to, Crony Capitalist, is that you’re one of those who talks the talk, but doesn’t walk the walk.

          • DaveH

            And Crony, your reading list means nothing to me. But this does:
            http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/confusion/#comment-689287
            Yet, you’re still here.

        • Capitalist at Birth

          Why, how astute of you Flashy. I intend to continue my quest for knowledge until the day I die. I read on the average, three books a month and still find my self wanting for more knowledge. How thoughtful of you to notice. And I never, never assume that I know as much as I need to on any subject.

      • Sirian

        It appears C.B. that another one of the COWS from that well directed herd has just showed up.

    • JMJ

      When Obama get in again due to another false rigged election; America won’t have 5 years left as God will allow Obama & his OBAMANISM to finish off America & the world. Obama does not what just to be president of such a small country, he wants to control the whole world. So where does this leave you fools that are so blind to what is going down? In the pits, fools, in the pits. +JMJ+

  • mickey

    May God have mercy on America and give us an honest God fearing partriot who defends the constitution, guards our rights as stated in that declaration and puts us back on the track started by our founders to be a Christian nation holding and obeying God’s commands and instructions to lead an honorable and Godly life in this wonderful republic oriented country. Pleas Lord protect us from the current president’s ungodly agenda.

    • michael

      You shoud go to an occupy wall street meeting to me the real patriots
      i hove romney and republicans take over the congress.than you wi;l;l see the peoples peaceful revolution rocket up
      Admit it the republican party ie really the true party of big government .Just big for the 1/%

      • FreedomFighter

        I am an American Indian, few if any on this site are what you claim, except yourself.

        Race has jack to do with success, if your a failure, its your own fault.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • DaveH

          Go FF!

        • JLC

          Freedom Fighter — My father was full-blooded Apache and my mother was Spanish (NOT Mexican). I lived, as a child, on Arizona’s San Carlos reservation and speak the Ndeh Biyahti, as well as both Spanish and English. I do not consider myself to be a failure! Vámanos, Ron Paul!

        • Jibbs

          FF, A BIG>>>HIGH FIVE!!!!!!

      • JMJ

        If you are talking about college pot-head drop-outs that Soros & Obama are paying to protest for the sake of protest just to get the media’s short attention span off of Obama, then, you just might have a selling point: ON STUPIDITY!! Without God, you are just drifting along in your useless haze of blindness & corruption. Keep bowing down to your false idol as he not only enjoys & expects it, but he demands it as so-called “wife” warned us before the “election”. May God have mercy on America once again & free us from the horrors that Obama is shoving down our throats. +JMJ+

    • michael

      your all racist and bigot
      wake up in 20 yrs the whites will not be the majority.Whatwill u patroits do then ?

      • FreedomFighter

        Islam’s Greatest Invention

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpVJAX0Yp0&feature=related

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • William Lord

          You are right that science has progressed. Unfortunately the unthinking masses of which I suspect you are a member have not. Your comment regarding offing merely reveals spiteful ignorance.

          • FreedomFighter

            Jesus loves me, his Father loves me, I dont give a rats arse if you do.

            I read the book Lucy, it ends badly for Lucys.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

    • michael

      LONG LIVE ISLAM

      • Rocketeer

        Your one of those liberal suicide voters that they have been talking about!

      • FreedomFighter

        I have spoken with American Muslims that consider radical islam a plague on mankind.

        As a devout Muslim he claims that the Radical elements like Muslims in Iran, Muslim Brotherhood and others will seek to murder everyone that does not believe as they do.

        He said that when Iran claims it will NUKE Isreal and wipe it out, they will do it without hesitation, when they claim that they will burn American in ISLAMIC NUCLEAR FIRE, they will do it.

        They are fanatic and insane according to my source, they will lie, cheat, steal and murder to get sharia law.

        Islam is a false religion if this is true.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • TML

          “I have spoken with American Muslims that consider radical islam a plague on mankind.”

          I believe this to be true about all ‘radicals’, including the Christian ones.

          “As a devout Muslim he claims that the Radical elements like Muslims in Iran, Muslim Brotherhood and others will seek to murder everyone that does not believe as they do.
          He said that when Iran claims it will NUKE Isreal and wipe it out, they will do it without hesitation, when they claim that they will burn American in ISLAMIC NUCLEAR FIRE, they will do it.
          They are fanatic and insane according to my source, they will lie, cheat, steal and murder to get sharia law.”

          As you pointed out… that is the radical, and does not represent the majority of Islam… even in Iran

          • FreedomFighter

            Im glad you agree with me, though I dont remember seeing new release of any Radical Christians exterminating thousands of Muslims in the middle east or anywere else.

            Just radical muslims exterminating Christians, blacks and anyone else that gets in the way.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • TML

            “…though I dont remember seeing new release of any Radical Christians exterminating thousands of Muslims in the middle east or anywere else”

            Surely you must recognize the wars this “Christian” nation wages upon the Muslim countries. It is the radical Christians who promotes and supports these wars, so how can you say there are no radical Christians exterminating thousands of Muslims in the Middle East when we are in constant war with them?

            It doesn’t seem too far a stretch to make a point in reference to the 11th century when what is happening today seems no different than the Crusades. It’s all religious conflict. Even the Christians on this site say so every day when they get so heated about supporting Isreal, and espouse their fears of Muslim countries so much that it brings them to support preemptive action against them.

            One is no better than the other my friend

          • Joseph

            10/4 TML!!!

      • JMJ

        Islam will have to face the real God one of these days & it will suffer greatly for all of it’s evil & hate that it has been doing. GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED & His day of wrath will surely come down upon us. Thank You God the Father; thank You God the Son & thank You God the Holy Spirit. +JMJ+

        • TML

          “Islam will have to face the real God one of these days & it will suffer greatly for all of it’s evil & hate that it has been doing.”

          I guess you should say the same about the Christians for the Inquisition and times of the Holy Roman Empire, eh?

          Oh but let me guess… those weren’t “real” Christians right?

          • FreedomFighter

            They are all dead and have faced judgement.

            Get out of the 11th century, evil men do evil things, nomatter the banner they fly.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Dale on the left coast

            TML . . . you seem confused . . . you go back 1000 years for so-called “Christian” missteps . . . but just last week there were Numerous Mooslime acts of terror. Moohamed was an illiterate, alaah is a rock in medina . . .
            Some silly Christians predict the end of the world . . . but mooslimes are trying to bring it about . . .

          • TML

            “but just last week there were Numerous Mooslime acts of terror.”

            Much like the acts of terror this “Christian” nation commits when bombing Muslim countries, eh?

            “Moohamed was an illiterate”

            So was Moses

            “alaah is a rock in medina”

            Actually, Allah is just another name for the same big daddy in the sky the Christians pray to.

            “but mooslimes are trying to bring it about”

            You paint with a broad brush… the majority of Muslims are not radicals.

          • TML

            “you go back 1000 years for so-called “Christian” missteps”

            Btw… I just LOVE how you refer to todays acts by Muslims as “terror”, while referring to those by Christians as a simple “mis-step”.

          • Joseph

            Religious extremism, wether it be Christian, Muslim, Communist, Socialist, Conservative, Atheist, or Pagan extremism, is a tool exclusively wielded by the Godless, Globelists. The names/labels of the fabricated beast may change, but the spirit beneath the surface, and the purpose for its use, remains the same. That is, for destruction, and control! Oh Behave!

          • Helen2

            Allah is not just another name for the same God of the Jews and Christians. Allah is actually the name of the moon god of Saudi Arabia according to Walid Shoebat, a Muslim who has converted to Christianity. When Mohammed was creating his religion he chose the name of the moon god Allah for his god. If you go to Walid’s website: http://www.shoebat.com/bio.php you will find a page to purchase DVDs that tell you about this: Islam, The Bible and Prophecy Study DVDs and “3 Ex-Terrorists” Bundle I highly recommend them.

      • Sirian

        Michael, by the way, did you know that your name is of Jewish origin? Just thought you should know.

        • Karolyn

          And it means “who is like God?” I remember that from catechism. It’s amazing the things I can remember from my childhood and can’t remember something that happened yesterday! :-)

      • Jibbs

        michael says:
        December 30, 2011 at 8:22 am
        LONG LIVE ISLAM

        I have some pork sausage, ham, bacon, pork chops, pork roast, pork ribs and pickled pigs feet for you.

    • Flashy

      Mickey…when you speak of Founders (or Founding fathers), please be specific as to which ones.

      The First Continental Congress, the Second Continental Congress, the Confederation Congress, the First Congress …? And which persons do you consider to be “the Founding Fathers” inasmuch as they disagreed as much as agreed…just who are the Founding Fathers?

      • JMJ

        Flashy, just how did you make it through college without brains? Was it your bad breath or bad hair that they just pushed you through (just like Obama, not even enough brains to be able to write a complete paragraph) just to get rid of you. Maybe your country didn’t have founding fathers, but, just mud swamp & road kill, which seems to fit your mindset very well. +JMJ+

        • Flashy

          JMJ…just asking. I’ve asked on many occasion when someone refers to “Founding Fathers” who they refer to. To date, including your response…no one has been able to give an answer.

          It just supports the impression TPers and the Right have no clue what they are talking about when they refer to “Founding Fathers” … they can’t even cite who those “Founding Fathers” were and if they attempted to, they’d realize it’s just a catchy phrase coined to legitimize the Far Right ideology and it carries no menaing whatsoever…

          However, if you would be so kind as to detail those “Founding Fathers” referred to … there are so many involved in the creation of this nation, and none had the same views on any partiocular subject. Like the Federalist Papers. Hamilton took the side which he disagreed with and write what he thought Jefferson would state. Jefferson wrote what he thought was Hamilton’s views. Which is why Jefferson’s actions as President belied what is purported to be his contribution to the Federalist Papers. Same with hamilton when he served in the Washington Administration…

          But go ahead…who are these “Founding Fathers’ the TP and Far Right crowd constantly refer to?

          • DaveH

            I realize there’s room for you to equivocate your way out of this one, Flashman, but people will know the truth.
            Flashman says “Which is why Jefferson’s actions as President belied what is purported to be his contribution to the Federalist Papers”.
            The problem is, Flashman, that Jefferson didn’t write any of the Federalist Papers:
            http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jefffed.html

          • libertytrain

            Dave flash does keep providing details re his comprehension difficulties

  • Stephen

    I foresee a day (Nov. 7, 2012) when the sun will rise again over an America of renewed hope (the real kind). When it (finally) comes, we will all have to hold the right’s feet to the fire to correct the missteps of the last 12 years of prolific overspending and garnering to the special interests. BHO will be gone (finally) and the cloud which sits over the country will be lifted.

    Those who now rely on the government for the unneeded handout must be encouraged to help themselves and earn their own keep. I have been a small business person for the last 26 years. There are good times, there are bad times. When times are bad, you work as hard as you can. When times are good, you work even harder. Failure only happens to those who quit. Liberalism is a failure. It is always control and power that the liberals desire. It is evil. It seems their logic is that people are the main problem with OUR Country. Government has been lying to us all too long. Why would any president take us all down that road? Government handouts will only make you a slave and will serve to encourage laziness.

    Let’s all get back to a government run by the people and the Constitution versus run by special interest money. Let’s all awaken on Nov. 7 to an America that all American Citizens can take pride; yes, that shining city on the hill. America will be renewed in 2012, and will again be a beacon of light in the world.

    • mrk

      Great post Stephen!!!

      • Stephen

        We all just need to be patient and do the right thing with our votes to fight against the evil left (and right) taskmasters. If term limits were on the ballot as well, it would also get my vote. Too many elected officials soon become career politicians instead of doing the work of which they were elected to do.

    • Lastmanstanding

      Then you had better vote for Ron Paul…and while your at it, get all your friends and enemies to do the same.

      • JMJ

        Is this another one of Obama’s jokes? Not really very funny! +JMJ+

        • Lastmanstanding

          you seem to be one of those caught in the right/left paradigm let me give you some material to look at…objectively before you think I’m joking…

          http://www.sonsoflibertyacademy.com…click on the ghandi link and you can do it for free…if not make a donation…i did it a year ago for my grandkids…if you are serious about being free, take the time to be objective and not believe everything that you are told by the media and our govt.

    • Sirian

      Very well said Stephen, very well said. Let us pray that more and more people come to their senses and realize the true ideological quagmire we’ve been led into and the overwhelming and continual degradation of our Constitution.

  • sb36695

    As my mother says, “ANYTHING but Obama!” An empty chair would be better.

  • John

    Dear sir,

    I am sick of Obama and a lots Democrate. They lie and cronny. Please in your show or any tools you can use affectively, please every day you have to talk about Nancy Pelosi inside trading and first two years in office Obama. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Obama how they bring our country into brink of destroy. You should talk every day make the people learn. Now a lot of people still said not Obama fall. I feel sick of it. I don’t understand when they really learn the truth!

  • CHUCK T

    Once the idiot Obama and his minions grant amnesty to all the illegals that are helping to bankrupt our wonderful country .He will increase his voter base with the help of welfare scammers,the deceased,and all the other useless Dumocrats.Keep on lying Obummer,it seems to be working.

  • dave

    Ron Paul isn’t so hot on economics. He might have had some some things he “predicted” come to fruition but he has pretty much missed the mark for the last few years.
    Most economists agree that austerity measures have had more effect on the turnaround than expected.
    Deficit reductions at a time when growth was needed didn’t help.
    Hyperinflation didn’t come about either as Paul predicted.
    Too many anti-initiatives have bogged us down.

    • DaveH

      You have no idea what you’re talking about, Dave. Ron Paul’s grasp of economics (Austrian) is head-over-heels above your grasp. Here’s an Austrian economist (Peter Schiff) making a prediction ahead of the event:
      http://blog.mises.org/8635/supply-side-economics-vs-austrian-economics-just-before-recession/

      Government consumes wealth. When they spend, the money they spend comes from the productive private sector, where it would have been invested in productive capital goods, and is instead given to a small group of recipients (Themselves, Crony Capitalists, etc.) who quickly waste the financial capital.

  • Rick

    Flashy you’re a moron just like your faithful leader. Reread the piece dumbazz, Chip said TWO lies not all. He is spot on with both of them.

  • Craig A Bishop

    You cite 2 lies I mean 2 lies thjat you claim the nPresident made and this is your argument ? Let me tell you this president has saved us from Econicic ruin. George W. Bush tried to destroy us and it isok with the right and it is sad. I stated and will continue to state the republican Party will NOT see the White House until 2020 Possibly 2024. I mean you are running a bunch of clowns that can not get out of their own way. George Washington is not coming through the door Abe Lincoln is not coming through the door. We have not been hit While Mr. Obama has been in office you do not come anywhere and rebuild something that the Conservative right has destroyed the very fabric of our Country

    • Rick

      Craig, you like so many others are so blind or ignorant, not sure which. Quit blaming Bush and the Republicans for everything. Truth of the matter is BOTH parties are to blame. My personal thoughts lean towards Democrats and their desire for a welfare nation. It was Democrats that stopped reform of Freddie and Fannie. The economy was pretty good until they took complete control of the house & senate. It was Democrats that pushed for banking industry to makes loans to people who couldn’t or wouldn’t repay them, knowing full well there would be a time that the taxpayers would have to pay instead. Our government is so corrupt I fear we will never be able to return to glory without a major uprising of the citizens and prosecute every last traitor in Washington, democrat and republican!

      • Flashy

        Rick…just wher exactly is this Democratic “push” to make mortgages to anyone who breathed and had a pulse? Other than political statements which ccarry no weight …

        • JMJ

          Why don’t you check Frank & Kerry’s desks along with Dowds? Facts are facts, even if you can’t accept them. The media said that Bush was a bad president & yes, he was very stupid to sign that horrible bill allowing stem-cell “research” to be done on aborted babies, which led us into 9-11 which led us (because of faulty information/lies from Clinton & his goons) into Iraq as a punishment from God. Despite having a horrible democratic Congress, Bush did very well. Check with the real news services to find out. +JMJ+

          • Flashy

            So JMJ…what banks had the gun held to their heads if they didn’t make high risk subprime loans? Answer…none. And what loans did FNMA and freddie make? Answer…none. And when did FNMA and Freddie get into the game of buying subprime paper? Answer…well into the decade and only because the banks and mainly the GOP members pressed them for more profits and cash flow into the lending system.

            I’m not saying frank and Dodd did not join in the push for FNMA and Freddie to guarantee more loans, but they did not push for relaxation of standards, they did not reduce the number of SEC field agents, they did not eliminate the regulations, and they did not hold any guns to the heads of the banks demanding they make any high risk loans.

            try again…

          • Dale on the left coast

            Flashy . . . the Comm Reinvestment Act, put on steroids during the Klinton years removed mortgage qualifications to eliminate “Red Lining” of minorities. Your marxist hero O’bammy worked for Acorn back in the day threatening to sue banks that did not give mortages to “Minorities” who promised to get a job someday and pay the mortgage back. The banks sent Trillions of dollars of these worthless mortgages to Fannie/Freddie who in turn bundled them into worthless Derivitives which Wall Street fenced all over the world.
            Bush to his credit tries on several occasions to stop the program, but Fwank, Watters, Dodd and other looney Dimmicraps went nuts and fought off any reform. Then in 08 . . . the chit hit the fan, just as the intelligent folks had predicted. By the way Flash . . . none of the intelligent folks were dimmicraps!!!

        • DaveH

          It’s all right here, Flashman, for anybody who wants to learn just how full of it you are:
          http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj29n1/cj29n1-3.pdf

          • daniel

            Flashy won’t read. He just spouts off KR—!

  • Paul

    It doesn’t matter how we vote,it’s up to the electoral votes and we saw how thay voted last time.How many states voetd against what their people wanted?

  • home boy

    chip, what you don’t seem to understand about obama is that he has every intention of ruining our economy so he then can say the system does not work and now we are going to do things my way. i would have thought that by now you would have seen this coming . but to my suprise you have not. i guess i have given you more credit than i should.

  • http://bjwholmes@verizon.net Barbara

    Obummer has hurt us in so many ways that I’ll ask just one question of his supporters: why did he wipe out many solid, old, family owned, General Motors distributorships without any thought? Did they have a history of donating to Republicans, or maybe just being Republican.
    Or another: why will he not protect us from the murderers from Mexico as he would Lybians, Syrians, on and on? Any Muslim country enduring what the border states deal with, he would have “saved” at once.

  • David

    It’s amazing how you can slam 60 minutes and ignore the aggregious assaults on the truth perpetrated every day by Fox News. Amazing how every pseudo-conservative talking head and pundit slams democrats while ignoring the horrendous attrocities, misstatements and exagerations foisted on us by a republican establishment that has been an active participant in the selling of America to the rich and powerful.
    I’m definitely not pleased with Obama’s performance and I think far too many democrats have sold out as well, but the alternative to Obama was far worse – another white haired old guy that has hung in there too long. I watched with dismay as he gave up his core principles so he could cater to the radical right wing of the party.
    As to Obamas claims – I believe far more peope would be out of work if there had been no stimulus, I believe the bailout of Wall Street was misguided and rewarded them for trashing our economy and I’m willing to forgive Obama’s exagerations given the enormous whoppers Bush/Cheney slapped us with.
    Do not fail to remember that it was government policy under Bush that allowed the big 5 to reduce their reserves and the Bush admin did nothing to end the sale of deriviatives, reign in the banks and the mortgage lenders and failed to curb the excesses of Fannie May Fannie Mac. There is far more blame to lay on Bush and company than Obama, who pretty much continued the Bush policies.

    • JMJ

      You should re-read your nonsense, especially your last sentence, as it blew your cover of being a blind, clueless moron and instead it shows that you are a blind, clueless moron that only follows what the democratic press tells them. I don’t watch any T.V., but it is nice to know that Obama hasn’t been able to control all of the media, yet; but, as his hero, Hitler, he will be doing so very shortly, just to keep his flock under his control. +JMJ+

    • DaveH

      There are no worse than Obama. But there have been plenty of others who came close. The problem isn’t Democrats or Republicans. The problem is Big Government. As long as they succeed in diverting peoples’ attention to the Republican vs. Democrat paradigm, the Government will keep on growing, and our Freedom and Prosperity will keep on shrinking.
      Vote Libertarian! For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, Limited Government, and PEACE:
      http://libertarianparty.org/issues

    • Dale on the left coast

      “foisted on us by a republican establishment that has been an active participant in the selling of America to the rich and powerful.”
      You mean folks like Soreass, who visits the WH regularly, or maybe the 80% of Wall Streeters that donated to O’bumblers campaign in 08. Or maybe you are talking about folks like Keyser, who walked away from Solindra with his funds intact . . . Dave there are plenty of Multi-Millionaires in the Dimmicrap Congress, plus the 1 Billion campaign chest O’bammy will spend next year . . . Dimmicraps seem to have an abundance of very wealthy followers like the senile 80 yo that wants to pay more taxes, Rockerfeller, Kerry, Kennedy, nutty Nancy and of course brain-damaged Harry.

  • wlllbjr5

    What is a Disrace is the fact that the Democratic
    Party did not even attempt to field any opposition to prez bam obummer this election cycle! The
    Democratic Party deserves to become a relic of failure and to immediately faid into complete obscurity.
    The Democratic Party is nothing more than a “Communist” organization irregardless of whatever name they
    go by whether that be ” ‘progressive,’ ‘Liberal,’ ” or what other limp name they can come up with! If
    the Democratic Party has any integrity what-so-ever they will demand prez bam obummer step down and
    nominate a candidate outside of his administration and the current Democratic Legislative elected
    delegation and Judicial Appointees. Other wise it is the duty of the America people to do away with the
    Communist Party!

  • Vietnam6871

    The socialists have successfully dumbded down America (and we let them by not continuously fighting for our freedom). Public schooling is pathetic. What kids are taught is socialist crap and they emerge unable to spell or add. Blacks in politics have deliberately kept black communities beholding to the government and ignorant otherwise there would be no need for those black pols. If you need anything other than the recent news coverage of the stampedes to buy $180 Nike shoes to convince you of that – you are sick. And just to be fair, you can get the same reaction from white trash by holding a 50% off sale on Bud Lite. 17% or the population works for government. Counting those workers’ significant others that is 34% that won’t vote anything but Democrat so they can save their jobs. Add those on welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, etc., and you can quickly see that over 50% of the population has a self serving reason to vote Dem. Most of them are too stupid to see that their actions will crush us. Our debt will destroy us and they will be out in the streets screaming that their “entitlements” and jobs have gone away. As I look at Greece, Portugal, Italy, etc., that have already reached this demise, I have absolutely no sympathy for the demonstrators. I will have no sympathy for those in the US who selfishly and stupidly bring us to this same abyss. If the college students in OWS can be that stupid, what does that say about the rest of the general public. Personally, I am buying more guns and ammunition and stocking up on non-perishable food and water.

  • Dagger

    Chip,
    It should be no surprise that this dude spews forth a tirade of lies. He IS a lie, he represents a lie, he believes his lies and many Americans will still vote(this includes the dead and illegal aliens that voted for him in 2008) for him anyway in 2012. Adolph Hitler is reported to have made the statement that “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it long enough, people will begin to believe it”. Apparently, this dude has read ‘Mein Kampf’ by Adolph Hitler.
    This liar may well be the last president since he might be the one that destroys America.

    • Ronbo

      Let’s keep perspective. Remember when Bush attacked Iraq based upon the BIG lie that Iraq was involved? WMDs? Nuclear Weapons? Bush is the king of the BIG lie.

      • Stephen

        Yes and interestingly enough, the Dems in Congress supported Bush to move forward. It seems the lie was based upon bad information from our intelligence in the area. Also interesting how BHO wants to take some credit for our successes in Iraq even though he was totally against everything about it as a senator. There are too many typical politicians in Washington. It’s overtime to make some changes.

      • JMJ

        And who fed Bush this information? Clinton’s people. If Clinton wasn’t so involved in choosing the “right” tie & instead, to try to be the president, 9-11 would never have happened. Clinton had the title of master LIAR, overtaking Johnson, but, now, we have a new king & a true master on hand” OBAMA!! STOP OBAMANISM, NOW!!! +JMJ+

        • Flashy

          Whoa….and now we have reviionist history as to the incompetence of Bush/Cheney for 9/11 and the WMDs ? Wow ….

          • Dale on the left coast

            Flashy . . . another dumb comment . . .
            Remember the late 90′s . . . Klinton, Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, Hillary and Albright all said “Iraq was an Imminent Threat with WMD’s” . . . many other Dimmicraps echoed this as well. Plus all Intelligence gathering agencies around the world said the same thing. Bush only repeated what he was told . . . and the looney left accused him of lyin . . .
            Next thing you will be sayin Flashy is that Dick blew up the twin towers by himself, wiring both buildings . . . . lieberalism is certainly a “Mental Disorder” . . .

          • Thinking About

            Dale, which of the names you mentioned invaded Iraq? Even after Joe Wilson provided information to Bush and gang, they chose to ignore it except to out Wilson’s wife. Iraq was a war of choice plain and simple. Research to the number line up in Congress in the first 6 years of Bush rage and that will explain even more. Get over it, accept truth as it really is.

  • Ronbo

    Progressives see Obama as BushIII because he continued wars (replacing the military with contractors and costing us MORE), he increased Drone murders, he paid bankers/wallstreet identically to Bush, he is anti-Constitutional rights.

    As a Progressive, I hope and pray the Republicans put up a good candidate. Obama is a trojan-horse Republican monster.

    • JC

      They’re all “Globalists”. They’re ALL Trojan Horses…think Bigger!
      Go Ron Paul.

  • BJR

    Ya know,the government is like a dissfunctional family where one parent say’s “spend,spend,spend we’ll worrie about how to pay it back later”.And then there’s the other that say’s “This has to stop,we can’t afford to keep going like this”.Now who’s side do you think the kids are on? Why does it matter? Because people follow the path of least resistance,the easiest way is not always the best way.

  • Chris

    OMG the damage was done, it was so far gone BEFORE Obama even took office. And instead of working with him, the GOP fought him at every turn. This President had ideas that would have made things better. And he offered up much that he did not want but was willing to do to get things moving-up. Then enters the lunatic Tea party. They hate him both the GOP & Tea Baggers….Why…*because Obama is the last real defense against the “annihilation” of the middle class. **They hate him because the only “liberties” he is trying to eliminate are the ones that allowed the crooks, cheats and unbelievable selfish thiefs who took down not just the USA but the entire world. Those are the things he is trying to change, so that NO ONE can ever again cripple this world like they did. ***And the GOP/Tea partiers & others hate Obama because he is doing “God’s Work”… “We are “our brothers keepers.” Check out your bible you who say you believe and then act like heatheans. And Obama is NOT into handouts. Before being elected and still now he says…”If you are willing to work for it!”
    What he is doing now is temporary to keep more and more from living on the streets.

    Let’s talk about lies. Members of Congress got “richer” during these bad times, while others were thrown into the streets’ Get off the President who even goes against his own party….and look at congress. Of the 50 richest in Congress…32…32 are Republicans. Fact it was just published for 2011. In total 250 are at or near the millionare mark. Obama is not rich, he has no outside money. And we continue to pay them with our tax dollars in salary and lifetime benefits. Yet, they want to take away benefits I paid for, working 40 years. Money that we paid from hard work and they pillaged. Get off Obama and look at the real problem. Greed and so much lies within Congress…you think those excelling in Congress want to do away with those things that made them rich???

    “God and prayer” were eliminated before Obama even took office. And this country was founded on “religious freedom”. I am a Christian and I acknowledge and accept that. But atheists were able to get “Congress and other Presidents to take prayer out of our schools. Others who ran this country and said they were “good Christians”.

    “Flashy and others” right on for seeing through the garbage. I could go on and on about lies and deception but when people are blinded “to truth” they won’t see and unfortunately will take the rest of us down with then. Oh yeah they hate him and they lie, cheat and misrepresent anything to take him down.

    • Rick

      You need to take those rose colored glasses off my friend! Democrats are now and have always been for social justice, entitlements, wealth redistribution, etc. By that very goal they are taking away our liberties. I do not believe turning the greatest nation this world has ever seen into a socialist state is ” Doing God’s Work”. This Chavez want to be occupying the Oval Office must go, along with all other “progressive” politicians. Smaller government = greater liberties.

    • Jammer

      It’s not what liberals don’t know, it is what they know that is not true that is the problem. This comment was a classic example.

    • G.B.

      Look in your history book and see where WELFARE, Social Security,Food Stamps came from. Sense all these programs came the Citizens in this country has gotten lazier, expecting to get payed for not working. The only work they do shell out more kids, and expect more more. The only beaten path they walk is to the mail box. I saw a comment about Hoover doing a FINE job HA HA that clown almost starved the people to death. During that time people called the rabbit Hoover Hogs, for that was about the only thing they could get to eat.

    • Vietnam6871

      It really is impossible to hold a conversation with an idiot – I gave up trying a long time ago.

      • Flashy

        good to hear therapy worked for you. Stopped conversing with your self eh?

        • Vietnam6871

          I thought I just heard an idiot mumbling in the background.

          • Joseph

            LMAO!!!

    • ValDM

      “God’s work”????? God’s work as I’ve read numerous times in the Bible is for INDIVIDUALS to take care of the less fortunate. Find me the passage that states gov’t should steal from me in order to support you (welfare). Find me the passage that states fiat currency is my road to propserity (the Bible is always referring to silver & gold, not paper). Find me the passage that speaks about communal salvation. You are so far off the mark, I’m surprised you have the ability to discern what the Bible is actually telling you.

    • JMJ

      You are sooooo blind with your hate or is it stupidity? Name one thing that Obama has done that is right in God’s eyes? You can’t as this madman is out to DESTROY EVERY THING THAT IS GOOD IN THIS COUNTRY!! He hates America, which is why he would not even wear a flag on his lapel, & it is why he is putting anti-constitutionalist into the Supreme Court, along with his federal judges. This god/man makes up his own laws & bypasses Congress every chance that he can. Get off of your drugs & back into the real world before it is too late for you. When you lose your home (if you have one) to the government, you can thank your wonderful leader for making it possible with the passing of one of his early bills, stating that if a local/state/federal government can increase it’s taxable income, they can take your proberty to do so. Have a happy day & watch out for 2012ad. +JMJ+

  • wellintended

    You all waste time arguing with or trying to convince liberals(liars) of the truth.Use this time and effort to encourage good honest people to vote anti-liar,anti-corrupt..this includes voting out corrupt republicans as well.You see It’s not about party,It’s about being loyal to goodness and fairness. Support a liar,and you indirectly harm innocent and honest working people.90% of Washington is corrupt.Don’t beu deceived…Freedom for our children from socialism/soft communism and the welfare state. Defend truth,not party….The conversation has begun..Actually by Sarah Palin when she was placed on the liar clowns ticket in 2008…..before its too late………wake up America…..

  • Norm

    Speaking of lies…..

    Will all the lies of the past 2 years cost the Republicans in the 2012 elections?
    Some of their lies:
    The refusal to raise the debt limit did not cause our credit rating downgrade.

    The health care reforms had death panels.

    Obama was after your guns.

    Obama was born outside the USA.

    Obama was a Muslim.

    Giving tax breaks to the rich creates jobs.

    The Republican plan to gut medicare and reduce the tax bracket for the rich will reduce the deficit.

    • FreedomFighter

      You are not in the same reality as the rest of us.

      PsyOps is proud of you.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Sirian

        Outstanding FreedomFighter, that is a very good possibility. Hummm, I wonder if they have influenced them enough to stare at goats too?

    • G.B.

      No was is.

    • Vietnam6871

      Oh great! Another idiot.

    • DaveH

      Norm says
      “Some of their lies:
      The refusal to raise the debt limit did not cause our credit rating downgrade”.
      Duh, Norm, the debt limit WAS raised. The downgrade came after it was raised.
      Norm says [some of their lies] “The health care reforms had death panels”.
      Of course they weren’t called “death panels”, that was purely a euphemism which any intelligent people understood (guess that leaves out Liberals). The actual fact is that the Health Care Law has provisions that empower a Committee of bureaucrats to decide who gets which scarce life-saving resources when the inevitable shortages occur. Thus they have the power of life and death.

      Norm says [some of their lies] “Obama was after your guns”.
      Please, Norm, how ignorant can you get? That one is so obvious, do I even need to go there? Oh well, read this:
      http://gunowners.org/the-cost-of-an-obama-reelection.htm

      And finally — Norm says [some of their lies] “Giving tax breaks to the rich creates jobs”.
      First of all, they aren’t “breaks”. The Government is taking less of their money. That’s all. The rich invest much of their money in Capital Goods (machinery, plants, etc.) which does indeed create jobs. And they’re productive jobs, actually producing things people need or desire, unlike the Government jobs where that same money would be diverted into make-work jobs and outright wasteful subsidies.
      The Rich (top 1%), who Norm loves to envy, pay 36% of the Income Taxes. While Norms favorite group (the bottom 50%) pay only 2% on the Income Taxes.
      Somehow Norm absolves the Big Government Politicians who produce nothing but productivity-stifling regulations, and get paid extremely well for that interference.
      How many more years of bad economy must we suffer before the Liberals finally remove their heads from their posteriors and figure out that Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution?

      • Thinking About

        DaveH since you are always asking for references provide the section and paragraph in the health reform which states death panels. Happy research

        • libertytrain

          you know the term death panels isn’t the question, the question is the wording and interpretation of the bill – and it is subject to great interpretation – start reading around page 424 or so and note how easy it will be for various interpretations…. soylent green anyone?
          http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/AAHCA09001xml.pdf

          • Thinking About

            Perhaps the “death panel” is part of the “confusion” Bob Livingston was thinking of in his article. This has been stated so many times lots of folks still believe it is true. For a physian to counsel with patients and their families when death is upon us should be compensated. Let’s get past the death panel and work on making this great nation a leader in the medical world.

          • libertytrain

            In my eyes based all my life’s experience dealing with our government and it’s “interpretation” of what it has created…. we are in trouble.

  • G.B.

    I have read some other web comments why they really voted for Obummer. They said that the reason why was they didn’t want to be labeled a RACIST. When is being a racist voting for a person that will keep this country a country we grow up in and love? You can call me what ever you want but when it comes to the country I want to preserve so be it. Folks labels is just words. It is time to kick this vacationer, liar and Chief out.

    • JMJ

      I was hoping that Cain would stay in the run, just to see how these people would vote: One true, full bloodied Negro against a mix of who knows what? At least Cain IS AN AMERICAN, along with all of the others except the liar-in-chief. STOP OBAMANISM NOW! +JMJ+

      • Ms. Finney

        JMJ,

        Cain would have fit in well with the rest of the womanizers’ in the republican party, nice family values, talk about bringing disgrace to the office of the Presidency.

        • daniel

          Glad Clinton did not have his finger on the button when Monica was in the room.

      • DaveH

        Ron Paul is the only candidate still standing who will actually attempt to shrink Big Government and give us some of our Freedom back. The rest are sounding more and more like Ron each day, but they will say anything to get elected. Ron Paul has walked the walk for 30 years. None of the rest have.
        http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ron-paul-plan-to-restore-america/

  • http://msn mike hardin

    mike, flashy, and all the lib. dems. are obames fools. why do you try to piss on us and tell us its raining? Do you remember what happened Nov. 2nd 14 months ago. Well get ready again. Oh yes, I guess you like ACORN RIGHT? LOL What a group of racist you libs. are.

    • bob wire

      So who’s fool are you?

  • mirage

    Chip Wood … another southern cracker upset over a black guy occupying the White House … what else is new here? Another conspiracy perhaps?
    Get over it and your racial “roots” issue/hatred!
    Obama lies? Oh no, say it ain’t so?!
    Here is a News Flash gang – ALL POLITICIANS LIE.
    Example: Ron Paul is currently telling whopper LIES about the subject of some of his monthly political propaganda letters from the 80′s and 1990′s i.e. 95% of black men in Washington D.C. are essentially criminals! Paul is lying and denying he knew all content of his monthly letters. What a nut-job.
    I don’t care who wins the next series of elections – the Middle Class IS DONE UNLESS GROUPS LIKE OWS TAKE TO THE STREETS AND DEMAND REFORMS.

    • Vietnam6871

      And still another idiot. Is Soros paying you to infiltrate web sites?

      • bob wire

        You have a problem with the 1st amendment?

        You think this is some kind of exclusive Koom-b-ya sing along site?

        You better put your pot on, the friendly’s will shot at you here.

        • Flashy

          Bob …. ever wonder who will replace Soros as the imaginary bogey man once he kicks the bucket?

          • JMJ

            Who will replace you for being the country’s idiot? Why don’t you check into ALL of Soro’s doings, including his many sites on the internet under misleading names. Take off your dark glasses & wake up & leave the rum cake alone. +JMJ+

          • bob wire

            Twisted is the web we weave when we practice to deceive.

            That you can’t cheat an honest man is a cloudy thought for I know that you can.

            But, it’s pay me now or pay me later, but you will pay me. As all accounts someday come due and the price will be extracted from your bones.

            http://www.boogiemanfilm.com/

        • Vietnam6871

          Hey, one more idiot exposed.

          • Bob Wire

            kinda what I was thinking, you are old enough to know better

    • ValDM

      mirage,
      nice comment from a lib. “southern cracker” yet. Care to tell us all what racists we conservatives are?

      • bob wire

        I’d prefer such doors for you to open and allow me to walk in and say “Howdy!”

        I know few who are not racist on some level, but does it control you and your actions while you are completely oblivious of it?

        We shall see as the very nature of it is often veiled in pretense and posture and cloaked in innuendo and inference.

        • ValDM

          bw,
          Were you actually trying to make a point? If so, it didn’t happen. Try using fewer words and maybe your idea might poke thru the murk.

          • bob wire

            For you perhaps. There are some “concepts” that have a hard time fitting inside a 4 word slogans.

            To you, I would say, “Pull it out”.

        • cawmun cents

          Ah yes…(scratching the chin,looking up at the ceiling)the seperation of innate and gathered intelligence.
          One can be manufactured,alas the other cannot.
          One cannot redistribute wealth,one does not posess.Unless of course you are a socialist,in which case you had better know who to go to that has the wealth,and have a clear method of redistributing it.
          That is simply not the case with Omamba.
          The wealth of course of which I speak is wisdom.You wont find it in the institutions of academia.They are painfully fresh out of it.
          All you need for a refresher in that fact is to look at the amount of debt(as much as one trillion dollars,said the man with his pinky next to his mouth)that is present in the outstanding grants for educational purposes.Yes….wisdom is very hard to find in that.
          And in the revisionist education that is inherent in any university that you might consider getting your education from,you will find wisdom is a fleeting word.
          It is also the one type of wealth that is not easily replaced.
          The void in our leadership,shows that to be true.With tired old marxist tactics,and fresh new faces,the crowd should be astounded,and marvel at the ability of the administration to weave the illustration of providence through merely accepting their treatise’s terms as necessary.Of course this assumes that the populace at large are unaware or under-educated,in the”go along.to get along”trait of the current administration.Not all union tactics are good for organizing in all cases.You win some,you lose some.
          There seems to be a blowback,in certain circles,culminating in a candidate with no sex appeal,or boyish good looks and charm,doing well in the polls.Hmmmm.Has America seen the man behind the curtain and actually paid attention to his antics?And the cursory attempt,to throw that same man under the bus by the worlders?
          Only those with the capacity for innate intelligence can tell.
          Worlders….this leaves you out.
          Cheers!-CC.

          • Bob Wire

            well in that case , it would stands to reason, the person with the most wealth to distribute would be inclined to know the most about such matters.

            So you speak as a man that has offered a lot? I can not boost of such claims, my annual contribution running between 8.5 and 12 grand a year to the Fed. What do I get for it? The same as you, a standing army next to none and a social system that prevents me from having to invest so much personal time in chasing criminals, collecting garbage and administering to the less fortunate.
            Without a system in place to pick up and clean up, we would be cluttered with dead body’s and garbage in just two weeks as nature took control.

            Let’s face it, you like government, you need government, you just don’t won’t to pay for it. I understand, I don’t either.

            We need more opportunities or less people. With a new American created every 14 seconds and seeing few ways to stop this growth other then deportation and birth control( which is happening in record numbers by the way) the creation of more opportunities is my choice!

            But on a side note, perhaps you could tell us all when was there a time when ‘wealth’ was not in constant redistribution? When did you work for free, when did merchants give away their goods? When did people serve you for no reason, other then you are just a really great guy and so good looking too? I can’t think of such times with the exception of church or family or close friends.

            I know of no such time. You pay less in Federal taxes today then any time before, so why is it now such a great concern?

            I tend to think you have yet to make a sound argument.

            Perhaps it is your life style or local taxes to were your wealth is being “redistributed”?

            Myself, I owe little but I feel bound and committed to the people that owe me as i fully intend for them to pay me back. If I create a condition to where that they can’t, the ‘music stops’. It’s a bad sign when the ‘music stops’, as everything “stops”.

            “Wealth” would not be ‘wealth’ if it could not be passed on or transferred. It would be an “art piece” to be mused over like a Faberge Egg. We could look at it and say “It’s that pretty!”, what a beautiful thing to behold. What is it for?”

          • cawmun cents

            It would seem rather,that gubment needs me.After all whos money are they using to fund their contemptible agenda?
            They cannot use their money,as their money has no backing.
            So they take from us on a need to know basis,and we dont need to know where the money is spent.That is their ideology,not mine.If you have to pass a bill to know whats in it,then you essentially must realize that many excess monies are being spent where we do not know,correct?
            So if they do not have you and I the taxpaying Americans,where do they get their funds?They still need us to borrow against even if their borrowing comes from outside sources.It is my money on my time that they are using to create a mountainous debt.They are supposed to do these things with me in mind,but to do them until I am a slave to the debt which they have accrued,is not keeping me in mind.
            It is causing conditions which are a clear violation of my rights,and a slap in the face of the values which founded this nation.
            Tghat is why I do not recognize their rights to do this to me,nor do I support their spending.None of it.It is not done with me the citizen in mind,it is done with power in mind.
            Ron Paul 2012
            Cheers!
            -CC.

    • libertytrain

      mirage – your lib left requirement to propagate the myth that somehow people of color are to be separated and kept down is really unbecoming and is racist.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The Libs need certain humans as pets to look up to them and that must be taken care.How else would the Libs get validation?

        • Bob Wire

          And conservatives look on everyone else as goats and sheep to be sheared and ridden or of little value, don’t they Goat boy?

          When are you going to understand , you are being played by party affiliation like a drum?

          This, good guy vise bad guy thing has turned your head to mush.

          You’d be more in line with reality if you considered them all bad.

          After someone robs you of your money, what they elect to do with it is irreverent in some ways. The DNC might send some to your mother while the GOP would oppose such a transfer and rather send it to some potentate with 40 camels and 16 wives with a letter of appreciation.

    • DaveH

      What were those comments from 20 years ago, Mirage?
      Funny, since the Liberals were quick to absolve Clinton during his presidency for his then-current lies and sexual misadventures, but they need to go back 20 years and make false Racism charges against Ron Paul.
      Some truth:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ

      Ron Paul is the best thing that could happen for the blacks. Unlike the establishment Politicians who merely want to keep blacks dependent and helpless so they can get the black votes, Ron Paul wants to get Freedom for us all from stifling Big Government. Blacks as well as whites (except the Leaders of course) would prosper from Ron Paul’s policies.

      • Bob Wire

        Well, they could but I question if they would and how many.

        Americans needs to get back to work and people need the opportunity to make a livable wage and stuff back a 15% savings in a 48 hour work week.

        Too many Americans today are looking to someone to offer them something and lead the way. Give them a “job”!

        Conditions need to be in place to where Venture capitalism can grow and flourish.

        Here is what happens in America today to persons that actually do work hard and have some success and start making money. A line starts to form at their door with government bureaucratic with their hand out. They are explaining to you how, “what you are doing” just won’t work unless you can conform to their rules and laws. You are found to be encroaching on others and restricting others liberties.Your “venture” is creating problems!

        Now for a sum of X dollars that will go into a “kitty fund” to offset this “encroachment”, they are willing to overlook and allow you to continue. But DON”T DO IT AGAIN!

        Now the Venture Capitalist is left thinking, “That really Sucks!”, “What can I do?”, hmm? I know! “I’m going to invest some of my profits in the supporting and installing elected government officials that are sympathetic to me and my business!”

        Government elected officials figure out early they can play both ends against the middle and make a lot of money in the process as them smoozz with everyone, kiss babies and pretend to be everyone’s friend and a duty bound elected Representative of everyone’s government.

        SO ? Who’s winning today????? Well it’s not rocket surgery!

        Government is the ‘game’ and the game brings in money! So government can’t lose! ever if the people it represents does.

        The other winners, are actually the smallest loser and that would be the people that contribute the most to government “FREELY”, above and beyond taxes.

        Myself, I’m up to $350.00 dollars for 2011 and have no plans to be in contention for the winners circle.

        How can this cycle of dysfunctional government be broken?

        Ron Paul? maybe but it’s not a certainly. But Any of the rest including Obama, is just an attempt to cut your personal looses.

        It’s a, “fight them or join them” situation and I don’t have the money to fight. But even to fight ‘them’ we must first fight among ourselves and come to an agreement which brand is best, X brand or Z brand and that in itself is apart of the “game” , as government officials wins no matter what you decide.

        How could a Constitution working republic address this matter? A Bought Entitlement? I fail to see how it changes anything other then “titles” and labels.

    • JC

      mirage says:
      December 30, 2011 at 9:27 am
      Chip Wood … another southern cracker upset over a black guy occupying the White House … what else is new here? Another conspiracy perhaps?
      Get over it and your racial “roots” issue/hatred!
      ____________________________________________________________________

      When all else fails and you have no argument and no point to make, pull the race card. Is that all you morons have got?
      Obama is just as white as he is black, and I don’t “hate” him, I detest him as the anti-American foreigner that he is.
      He is a liar working to destabilize the nation for his Globalist handlers and he has got to go…

      • libertytrain

        JC the left has to keep the race issue alive to keep people in their place and beholding to them – if the left treated them as just people they would lose their stranglehold and power.

        • JC

          Exactly right libertytrain, playing the race card is a despicable tactic from despicable people who have nothing to offer.

          • Bob Wire

            Especially when it has some validity and comes from a commonly known predisposition.

            It clouds the water. but then too, We hear of “Class Warfare” only because resistance is being offered. Other wise, it would be called robbery and unprovoked criminal assault.

            We are free to make our choices on what we wish to call things and assign “labels”, as labels imply content.

          • JC

            It rarely has any validity at all. It’s usually just a tool used to shut people up who don’t agree with “Liberals” (and Neo-Cons).

          • libertytrain

            sorry bob, racism is a tool used to keep people in their places…tell people of color or those in poverty situations over and over and over and over again that they need the help of them that’s smarter; wiser; will look after them; tend to their needs; and they believe it and become complacent and actually slaves to a new master – . Easier to keep a people down then to let them succeed and think for themselves.

  • Chris

    There is no depth to which the progressive-marxists will not stoop to reach their goal of world domination. Globalism is just another (more palatable) word for worldwide communism. It’s coming soon and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.

    • bob wire

      Hand on your head! Step away from the punch bowl! NOW!

      • Vietnam6871

        It is you who have been drinking the cool-aid.

    • JC

      Are you advocating defeatism?
      Nothing anyone can do about it?
      I disagree.

  • BIG DOG

    PRES. OBAMA AND FAMILY A BUNCH OF CHI TOWN HUSHLERS!!!!!! ( VOTE NOBAMA IN 2012 )

  • Gseven

    One of the best ways to deal with all of the garbage that we get from the Liberal Left Democrats, and the Republics that talk a good game but are just as liberal as their opponents.

    If they are a President, don’t re-elect them for a second term. If they are Congress or Senate and they’ve been there more than ten years, don’t send them back. Much of what we have been forced to swallow is due to long-term attacks on the true values of America from control freaks that were allowed to get away with negligent homocide and be re-elected, can you say the name Edward Kennedy?
    Or, managed to use his time in the military lying about his service, such as claiming he was in the MeiKong Delta due to orders from President Nixon in 1968… can you say the name of John Kerry?

    I bring up Nixon in this case because Kerry has said that and it is patently false, since Nixon wasn’t sworn in until that following January. He wasn’t President at the time Kerry claims he was in the Delta.

    Kerry is also a man that had shrapnelized rice pulled from the wound he used to get his Purple Heart. This is also a man that has to tell you he is a war hero. You and I both know war hero’s. In my case it was my father, in many of your cases it will be your grand father. I mean the veterans of WWII. Do you ever hear any of them talking about the medals they were awarded, and what they were awarded for?

    No, you don’t. Real heroes are generally soft spoken men and women that did what needed to be done. The Left hates the military as it was before they took office. They used their hate of America to throw mud on the service men and women that served during Viet Nam. Now they are the ones in control and they are maneuvering the military to the position that the Soviet Union and China use theirs for.

    Policing the citizens of their own nation more than defending it.

    So, before you begin casting aspersion on True Great Presidents, such as Reagan, Truman, Jefferson and Washington and think your boy Obama is better, remember when his elite military security comes to your door to see if you have anything that might be propaganda that speaks against him.

    In the Soviet Union people were sent to Gulags for minor political dissent. Bear that in mind as you attempt to defend the actions and lies of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, any Kennedy of Barney Franks. Then look at the people they admire.

    People Like Pol-Pot, Idi Amin, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin and Leonid Lenin. See a pattern here? The liberal left Democrats in elected office worship dictators.

    But you leftists continue with your delusion that Barry O is a good President and watch as the nation falls apart because of continued policies that are Anti American, un Patriotic and counter to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

    • William Lord

      I see a pattern in your comments. Slander provided without documentation against persons you dislike. Is there any other point to your posting? Hopefully it provides some therapeutic value for you in the absence of any meaningful political discussion. From where do you get your information that the persons you disparage admire the “villans” you mention, including the fictitious “Leonid” Lenin? Which one’s have advocated “gulags”? Kerry’s so-called invalid wound which whether you like it or not passed the military review process which included medical documentation. I did read accounts of the incident and found no meantion of “rice”. While I understaand factual review takes time and may interefere with pre-conceptions, awareness of reality is helpful in engaging in rational discussion.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Is it a strain on your brain to string together words that say nothing?

  • shirley

    Can’t believe what I’ve been reading. Now I know who all the “know-it-alls” who comprise Rush Limbough’s audience come from. The ill informed haters boggles the mind. Ron Paul? are you kidding? You want a bigot in the White House who listens to a preacher who says that all homosexuals should be killed (a true Christian comment). By the way all you professional “Christians” seem to have forgotten that this nation was founded on the principle of freedom of religion. It isn’t true that only those who accept Jesus as their savior are good, decent people. Stop watching Fox News– the espouser of half-truths and out and out lies that takes things out of context.

    • G.B.

      I have checked with other web news cites, and found they publish the same text. So it isn’t only Fox news that maybe misleading.

      • Flashy

        And that’s why survey after survey shows those who rely on FOX McNews are the most uninformed … uh huh … Hokayyy

        • JMJ

          Flashy just who is doing all of those surveys? You & Shirley & CNN & NBC? If you was to fall flat on your face, with your limited brain power, you would believe that the world is flat as we can tell from your lack of knowledge, that you can only believe what is in your face, no matter how false it may be. If Obama & you are so afraid of Fox News because they are telling the truth, then, why do you even watch it. It must be weird to be so in the dark as you are about what is truly going on in this world. +JMJ+

          • libertytrain

            I think it’s interesting that flash proved to all he doesn’t read well or has no reading comprehension —- so why would anything be correct he spouts?

          • cawmun cents

            It’s the gathered and innate intelligence paradigm.
            Its easier to swallow if its candy coated.
            Gathered intelligence folks,like their male bovine fecal matter,candy coated.It goes down easier that way.They look at polls,and what other folks think(but mostly what other folks tell them to think)and wallah!,they have an opinion now.They is edumacted in the fynist skools,and they assume that others are either not,or just didnt get the pre-programmed package,and use it like a suppository to eliminate the middleman.
            Their Ivy League Academics courses in liberal law,are what they tend to lean on,and when that doesnt quite pan out,they run to statistics,the origin of which might be debated.
            Its alot like going to a union meeting,and listening to the organizer tell you what hes been spending your dues money on.You know there is something funny when he drives a better car than you do,eats out at restaurants all the time,and brings non-union workers in to take your job(not because they are better workers,but because promises were made)while you ponder why you pay dues for this particular action to occur.
            Its called redistribution folks.
            we get more folks to pay into the party politic,and you get the satisfaction of knowing that we care about you.Democratic demographics at its finest hour.And so with people from India coming to take your jobs,and the economy passing you by as it”grows”according to the latest statistics(see how that works?),you can be sure that the terms of endearment with which your gubment considers you are true and real.Right up to poverty,in the name of redistribution of wealth,you can clearly see how much they care for the poor.After all,they are making so many more of the poor to care for.
            -CC.

        • DaveH

          Hokayy, how about some references, Flashman? Or are you link-challenged?

    • 2WarAbnVet

      How about a bigot in the White House who listens, for twenty years, to a preacher who says that all white people should be killed and his own nation destroyed?
      If you seek hatred, Shirley, look in your own heart.

    • Vietnam6871

      And still another idiot. This one apparently a left wing atheist. Get a life Shirley. The “establishments” of both parties are at fault but the current administration has done more damage than all others combined and has to go. I am sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils but this time around it will be ANYONE but the racist in the White House.

    • Sirian

      Let me see, hummm, “ill informed haters boggles the mind.” Do you actually realize shirley that you are sounding exactly as what you have described.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Lady, you just told on yourself that You are the ill informed hater.

    • Skipper

      talk about half truthes – this country was founded on freedom of religion by Christians.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    When someone tells falsehoods, while being fully aware that they’re lying, and being aware that their audience knows they’re lying you have real problems. Obama constantly lies without fear that anyone in the American public will call him out (with exception of a single instance by a single congressman). It is truly disturbing that a constant stream of falsehoods comes from him so easily.

  • The Lion”a Den Roar’s

    How about ,His lying about his Father was the Youngest Veteran of World War 2.
    Check the facts, his father was 9 1/2 at the end of the war, and his stept Father was 10.

    Like he stated, taking Viagra really helps, For now I can Screw the American People 24/7 . Right Pelosi.

    • Flashy

      ya got any relaible sites which give the documentation and discussion on that claim there Lion?

      • Angel Wannabe

        Flashy, er, if ya’d like to know whether it’s the truth or not, how’s ’bout doing what the rest of us do_ and LOOK IT UP! :)

  • bob wire

    Wood Chip, as a professional wordsmith you are pushing your limits as you attempt to make false claims to “alleged” lies. It’s a long been understood, that the first liar hasn’t a chance in hell to win a lying contest, leaving you at some distinct advantage.

    Claims & Lies do have a lot in common perhaps but a claim is a challenge and not a lie. That you elect to rise to the challenge claiming it a lie and then offer your argument with cooked dates and numbers, you too open yourself up to being called a liar “if” we elect to use your same criteria.

    1claim
    verb ˈklām
    Definition of CLAIM
    transitive verb
    1
    a : to ask for especially as a right b : to call for : require c : take 16b
    2
    : to take as the rightful owner
    3
    a : to assert in the face of possible contradiction : maintain b : to claim to have c : to assert to be rightfully one’s own
    — claim·able ˈklā-mə-bəl adjective

    A lie (also called prevarication, falsehood) is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others.

    To lie is to state something with disregard to the truth with the intention that people will accept the statement as truth.

    A liar is a person who is lying, who has previously lied, or who tends by nature to lie repeatedly—even when not necessary.

    I accept your “Bias” Chip as I would accept a cat to chase a mouse. I do not consider you a liar but I find your claims suspect. If I proved one of them incorrect, could we assume that they all incorrect?

    Which embellished statement should I select? I wish I had the time but for now, other matter much more pressing.

    I do look forward to getting back and taking your “claims” apart.

    As you are but one of many that has provided us with a 3 year track record of systematically attempted to discredit any and all accomplishment and achievements of the current administration in reckless disregard to the truth or stability of the nation and I know I can expose your bias in short order.

    • JMJ

      Once a liar, always a liar, right bob wire? You can say & do all that you want to except, it seems, to realize the truth. Name one thing that this “farce” that you are so much in love with has done on purpose? Without making something up; you just cannot!! Why don’t you go down with those occupiers & find yourself some new friends that can’t think such as yourself? +JMJ+

      • bob wire

        It have nothing to do with “love” butthole. When there is a night I can’t slept and enjoy taking something apart and looking as it’s many pieces, I shall enjoy the lite challenge that Chip Woods offers.

        I love puzzles and the tasking of minds, it’s what I do. But I normally charge a fee.

        Pro-bono , you get it on my time.

        Tonight will not be such a night, as my day starts early and ends late.

        give me a few days ~ I run a empire and pay taxes so you can squander.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    BEWARE OF THOSE THAT CALL EVIL GOOD AND GOOD THEY CALL EVIL. Some liars have done it so long that they believe themselves to be true, even though all evidence is to the contrary. The good news is all habitual liars shall have their abode in the lake of fire. the bad news is that many will be deceived before their deception is totally exposed. Truth is that some folks had rather believe a lie, than face the truth.

    • Ms. Finney

      Henry Ledbetter,

      You must be talking about the lie that George Bush told when getting us into that disastrous war in Iraq under the premise of WMD’s. That mistake will go down in history as one of the great military debacles of our time.

      • bob wire

        I think you must be right! Was it not this same man that in 2001 offered tax cuts and 1.X Trillion surplus in just ten years? Was it no the same man that offered a 2nd tax cuts that would create jobs just 4 years later in his bid for reelection?

        I think that you are on to something! Most people would smell a rat by now.

        Well?, I’ll return my $247.86 tax cut if it helps any thing.

    • Angel Wannabe

      You go Henry, well said!__pay no attention, I believe Ms Finney may be a Newbie on the Liberal payroll, to troll on here for info, but hey, its better than not working at all, isn’t it?

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    Flashy, if I could find a “Party of Hell No”, it would have my unqualified support. Saying “yes” to all the illegal (unconstitutional) programs has turned my country upside down.

  • Norm

    Based on his record alone, the president should be, at best, a long shot for re-election. The stock market is floundering. Unemployment remains stubbornly high. Poverty is on the rise. Washington seems adrift. To many, Obama’s current crusade on behalf of the American Jobs Act looks more like a cynical campaign ploy than a serious effort to get the country working again.
    Even if you hold his diehard partisan opponents responsible for the mess, it’s hard to make a really convincing case for a second Obama term. Until, that is, you consider most of the alternatives. And then all of a sudden, Obama starts looking like a shoo-in.
    If I were a Republican strategist, I’d call an immediate halt to the presidential debates, before the wacky — even bat-dung crazy — performances by most of the candidates completely destroy any chance the GOP might have of regaining the White House. The more these guys and gal talk, the better Obama’s chances.
    Let’s be frank. Only one of the would-be leaders of the free world who appeared on that stage Thursday night has even a glimmer of what it takes to do the job. Texas Gov. Rick Perry is an ignorant oaf, laughably unready for prime time. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum are wild-eyed crazies. Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman and new entrant Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico, are nonentities.
    That leaves the ever-flexible ex-Massachusetts Gov. Milt Romney as the only man standing with a realistic chance of offering a better alternative to Obama. The danger is that the longer he stands next to his far-out fellow GOP candidates, the more likely he will be contaminated by their contagious extremism. He has to find a way to separate himself from this loony crowd before they drag him down, along with the GOP’s chances.

    • ValDM

      Norm,
      Haven’t seen you comment here recently. Can’t say anyone has really missed you, either. To address your endorsement of the Romney-dude : if that’s what you want in a prez, then I’m sorry for you. A vote for Romney is a vote to be screwed by a white man instead of the half-white nitwit we have now. Romney is nothing but the O’boy’s equal & opposite number on a chess board.

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    Mirage, this southern cracker is an equal opportunity racist. I despise the white half of the guy occupying the White House just as much as I despise the Negro and Arab DNA that comprises the rest of him.

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    Ms Finney Its not that all of those fifty percent that do not pay taxes would desire to do their part ,it is because welfare receipients do not pay taxes and continue to grope for more freebies. That is the biggest problem our country faces ,while trying to get rid of the head hog in the trough.Four mil a day vacations ?

    • Ms. Finney

      gotaplenty,

      You sure like to paint with a broad brush don’t you. There are many, many people that I’m sure work as hard as you do and are not on the “government dole” as you suggest. You, I suppose, are just another “compassionate conservative.” Another thing you might want to do is leave the name calling out of your posts, you lose much credibility

    • Ms. Finney

      gotaplenty,

      You sure like to paint with a broad brush don’t you. There are many, many people that I’m sure work as hard as you do and are not on the “government dole” as you suggest. You, I suppose, are just another “compassionate conservative.” Another thing you might want to do is leave the name calling out of your posts, you lose much credibility.

  • William Lord

    Obama lived with his step grandfather WWII army veteran Stanley Dunham from the age of 10 years who was obviously the person to whom he referred. Given the absence of any other close male figure in his upbringing this statement clearly reflects his identification with Stanley Dunham as a father figure and to claim this is somehow a blatant falsehood rather than a simple mis-statement is quite unfair. The claims of his “lie” reflects the efforts of those who for largely non-logical reasons will look for any possible excuse, no matter how minor, to mud sling. This of course, appeals to less rational and biased mentalities who are not interested in factual investigation and rational analysis.

  • RichardS

    All,
    Ignore the Flasher and he will eventually go away. His type feed off their need to hear their own voice. Silly man, wasting your time here, your bullets have no effect on those who know the truth.

  • William Bourbon

    God rejects the wicked….watch how He takes care of matters!

    • Ms. Finney

      William Bourbon,

      I hope God makes sure that our lawmakers feed the hungry, clothe the naked and heal the sick like the Bible says. To paraphrase, to whom much is given, much is expected. I don’t see that happening under a republican President or majority of congressional republicans.

      • ValDM

        It isn’t the gov’t's problem. If you’d care to read your Bible, these matters are strictly for INDIVIDUALS. BTW, how much have YOU contributed to charity this year?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Boy oh boy, but you are really naive and gullible. The Dems are really,really going to take care of your livelihood because you believe them. Where do you think the money comes from for your supposed maintenance?

        • bob wire

          Money comes from “perceived value” and wealth transference, preferably a mutually agreed one. Something that the GOP likes to tells us that they know a lot about while holding a most dismal record in practice and application across the government spectrum from Fed to State.

          It’s clear ! Someone is to enjoy the better end of any deal by virtue of entitlement and position. The GOP supports and defends these select few people and offers lip service to the rest.

          The “rest” is divide in their perception of the cause of their “disenchantment” and social/economic back sliding today and look for solutions by doing the same thing, rounding up the usual suspects,being nasty and talking mean while expecting a “different” results.

    • bob wire

      I don’t know about you, but I’ve not waiting on God to do anything.

      If that 40 year Jewish picnic in the desert is any example as to how he takes care of business. I need to see some quicker progress.

      Don’t wait on God or Government to offer you a leg up, Start helping yourself today, God will be with you when you need him/her most.

      Grab the bull by the horn, hold on tight and don’t let go.

      • bob wire

        did I mention select your bull wisely?

      • libertytrain

        bob – I like this one, and you’re right about the bull.

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    I just went back and read some more of the posts by the commie left idiots. It’s no wonder this country is in deep doodoo. Any one that would listen to and then regergitate anything that idiot Obummer spouts reveals his level of intelect.

    • Doug Kimberling

      I couldn’t agree more. This perfectly good Capitalistic society has been destroyed with 60 years of Socialism. We are going to be the next Greece. I think the only person with the gutsto try and save this country is Ron Paul.

      • Ms. Finney

        Doug Kimberling,

        I hope you like filthy air and polluted water because Ron Paul will gut the EPA and if you are nearing retirement age you can forget about Social Security and Medicare too.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Ms, Finney all due respect__ what did our ancestors do before the companies we worked for, agreed or were pushed in to paying a days wages for no work or for vacations, holidays, and then healthcare plans(at one time 100%) and then take care of us the rest of our lives with a pension?__Be reminded, The companies we work for don’t owe us anything except a days wage!!!__the rest is gravey!!! REMEMBER THAT!__Don’t you think that, regulation and high tax, 100% health care, and paying pensions of those no longer working, is what has driven companies and good paying jobs off shore?__NO ONE OWES US ANYTHING!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Get over your pathological altruism. Nature has been cleaning after herself for millions of years before you came along.

          • Karolyn

            You have got to be kidding! How can you compare the state of the earth today to what it was before we screwed it up and say that? Nature includes the animals too. Story in the news today – Sick seals found in Alaska and believed to be suffering from radiation poisoning from Fukushima. How does nature recover from being poisoned over and over?

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn don’t forget to do some research on just the effects of some of the known earthquakes the world has seen, i.e. global weather changes for years after just being some of them… Not everything can be attributed or blamed on/or to the last century or two of mankind. I’m not saying we don’t need to take care of the earth just that we are not solely responsible for all that occurred, occurs or will occur.

          • bob wire

            This is true, some days you are the bug and some days the windshield, regardless.

            and why I don’t have a big problem just going back to bed.

          • Karolyn

            liberty – There are those who believe that we have everything to do with all that happens in the earth, that our energy causes the devastating upheavals like earthquakes. Think about it. Negative energy creates negative results, and if the collective energy is strongly negative, it is bound to create negative results. It’s a very logical concept. With all the negative energy in the world today, it’s no wonder the whole world hasn’t imploded already.With

          • libertytrain

            I got into the stuff you’re into back in my mid 30′s – so yep, I did read just about everything there was to read on all these ideasand still in my late late 50′s read the concepts now and then if I hadn’t read them prior, however, I am pretty sure Krakatoa had nothing to do with bad vibes except bad vibes within that volcano that heated up. While some things are interesting or fascinating and I do understand the concept I can’t buy that one for every natural disaster.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    CORRECTION ON MY EARLIER STATEMENT. I should have said all UNREPENTANT habitual liars shall have their abode in the lake of fire. My Jonah complex overcomes me at times.

    • bob wire

      “Jonah complex”? OH NO! LOL!

      FEAR OF THE DARK? ~ Hates to travel by boat? ~ Fear of Locals? Doesn’t care for sea food? Fear of Shade deprivation?

      Poor Jonah , bless his heart. If God was a human, he’d be a very funny guy.

  • John Bevich

    When Obama beat Hillary, I knew then this Chicago radical was a Communist Plant. Lies repeat them and the dumb masses will believe you. Right out of the commie play book.

    List of commie goals. “The Naked Communist” 1958 by R Skousen

    The Republic can survive Obama. It is less likrly to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president.
    Published in Czech Republic Prager Zeitung 4/28/11
    Signed a Vietnam Vet who was told by our goverment fight them there so they can’t take over SEAsia Well we have met the enemy again seated in our country. God Help Us one more time Please!

  • Valerie Da Silva

    It’s the Republicans who lie—how many jobs have they creator—have the Republicans rid us of any terriost—-all your GOP wants to do is line their pockets with OUR money—How—Do away with Social Security which I PAID INTO— there wouldn’t be a probl;em with Social Security if the Republicans (Bush adminsistration) did’nt steal it—-oernment is suppose to take care of its citizen not let them langor on the side line whilc a few get rich—this is what dictators do—the Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves—of cvourse the Republicans don’t really know what or who the founding fathers are.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Hey Val, give it a rest, the Repubs aren’t in power, your knights in shining armour are, or have you forgotten???, Dems still hold and have held the congress since 2007!!__like the President Seat, the Senate, Repubs only control the house__pUt your money where your mouth is!__sides they’re both from a double headed coin anyway!_-Although there are a few that are trying, but not that your LAMESTREAM NEWS MEDIA REPORTS THOUGH!_HEY,HAVE A NICE DAY! :)

    • Ms. Finney

      Valerie,

      One additional note. Our Founding Fathers never would have believed how our Supreme Court justices could be bought and paid for the way they are. We can thank them for George Bush’s presidency when he didn’t even win the popular vote and all the loss of innocent life in Iraq. They will also probably overturn the Affordable Health Care Act as well so 45,000 people can die eacy year due to lack of health insurance.

    • TML

      “… is suppose to take care of its citizen…”

      “The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.” – Thomas Jefferson

    • TML

      “…not let them langor on the side line whilc a few get rich”

      “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” – Thomas Jefferson

      “To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” – Thomas Jefferson

      • Angel Wannabe

        TML, So its seems your amoung the “Class Envy Crowd as well?

        • TML

          I’m not sure how you arrive at that conclusion when my posted quote implies the opposite.

          Those quotes we in response to one saying the government should take care of it’s citizens instead of having them sit on the sidelines while a few get rich…. THAT is class envy.

          The only way it makes sense to take more from the wealthy is if one is motivated by envy of those who have more. Petty jealousy and the urge for control over others’ property are the traits of an aspiring tyrant, not of a responsible representative of the people.

          When those in Congress talk about raising taxes on the wealthy, what they are saying is that the government is entitled to take away the property of those who are, by definition, the most productive amongst us.

          • bob wire

            When did we cease to be all Americans and become divided Americans?

            When criminals started passing laws and sitting in courts rendering decisions would be my answer.

            It is NOT class envy, but made war by responding to the assault perpetrated by law makers and defenders on behalf of the most prominent and affluent, ANGEL dearest

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/2011-was-a-rocky-year/?eiid= William L Collins

    Obama will play the raist campan but he has done nouthing to help the black, white or any outher raice outher then the musliums if you don’t beleave that just burn the coran he and his addminastration will bring charges on you he had better clean his house first the U.S.A.is not a muselium or mexcian country This country of the english speaken language of many nationaltys

    • Karolyn

      Please! No charges were brought against that jerk pastor, Terry Jones, who burned the Koran.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        For shame Karolyn, I thought you called yourself one of the tolerant. Instead, your intolerance is showing.

        • bob wire

          Hey ! wait just a minute goat boy. You explain Karolyn’s intolerance.

          Lay it out! So Grand Dad can see it. Your meter is running.

    • William Lord

      And judging from your comments it is also the country of the illiterates.

      • bob wire

        LOL! no kidding, too funny. I don’t believe “that” was on purpose.

        Personally “Speak’en” some of us require less help then others making a fool our of ourselves.

  • One-Angel

    President Obama has a young speech writer on his staff who is paid six figures to make Obama sound good. How do you think he is doing?

    • NC

      Does “good enough to get him elected President of the United States” sound like a pretty good job??? I wonder what Mc Pain and Caribou Barbie paid their speech writers to get their butts waxed??

  • Angel Wannabe

    Absolutely love it!!!__The Libbie defense of the Obama Admin is so alive and well, you libs are Whacked Jobs!!!!

    SARCASIUM ALERT!_The BAstard has sold our souls into Bam Bam Care, gonna have/or has his own personal National Guard, which BTW NOW allows bestiality and sodomy in the Military, that’s great!, yeah WHAT A Man that Obama is!!__The real unemployment numbers are around 20% and still losing__What a GUY!!__ We’re playing Socialism/Marxism 101_ and Robin Hood by taxing the rich and “Not necessarily giving it to the poor” but rather to those on welfare and who don’t wanna work!__Absolutely Brilliant! AND has managed to spend more money in three years than it took ALL the Presidents of the United States put together!!!!_Took our guys/the military out of Afghanistan for what, to d*ck around until we get in another war with Iran???Pepper Boy, we slap around our allies and bow to our enemies, we even could be creating some new jobs on that pipeline from Canada to Texas but we have to study the environmental effects first, what a softy!!!__yeah Obama’s the Man __Geeze o Man!

    • Karolyn

      Angel – Who on earth is saying anything about bestiality? What a ridiculous claim! As far as sodomy goes, what is wrong with that as long as it’s between consenting adults? Many states to have laws against it but do not use them, and many heterosexual couples practice it.

      • Angel Wannabe
      • Angel Wannabe

        Karolyn and besides, with all I’d typed on that post, ya pick one thing to b*tch about?_lol, Really?

        • Karolyn

          It just jumped right out at me, knowing that it was about homosexuality, a subject I know that you know I have strong feelings about. And, the beastiality part is basically something that was included because it was presumptive of homosexuality.

  • Ken

    Flashy, Mike, Shirley, Chris, Norm, NC, etc,

    I really admire you for trying to even discuss issues on a site such as this. I beleive there are good points to be made from both the right and left perspectives. It seems to me, however, that Chip and many of the contributors to the discussion are too much like those in Congress. We all can be so opinionated and hateful that we really refuse to listen to or respect the opinions of others.

    The hatred that I read and hear about President Obama reminds me of what I’ve heard or read regarding many of his predecessors; Wilson, FDR, JFK, LBJ, JEC, and WJC. So much hatred. The worst of it is that many of these haters also actually claim to be Christians! Their hatred dishonors the name of Jesus. Scripture says, 20 If anyone says, “I love God,” yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.21 And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Ken__I get where your coming from, but with all due respect I don’t see anyone saying “I hate you” to anyone on here._Yours is a classic case of of under reaction on one hand and over reaction on the other.

      __America was Founded & Born by a bloody War,those men gave a hell of a lot more blood, than we do here by arguing about politics. This is a battle of the differences in Ideology and the one who seems to have the most toys, doesn’t nessarily win.
      Politics__It gets heated, dirty and down right nasty, that’s politics!, but aren’t using words better than actually drawing swords?
      BTW, I”M a Christian too, I too, can get pretty nasty__but if we didn’t care about America, then why argue about?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The progressesives/Leftists/Democrats/or whatever they are calling themselves today want all of America to live and abide by their philosophy. The most intolerant are the supposedly tolerant.

        • Angel Wannabe

          NB, I’m hearing ya on that!

    • Ms. Finney

      Ken,

      You forgot to mention me but that’s okay. I wonder sometimes if any of these people that are so full of hatred have even picked up a Bible, let alone read it.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So now we have an expert on the Bible to show and tell us what we supposedly don’t know.

        • Karolyn

          Why is it you are making a comment to a liberal for talking about the Bible? I’ve never heard you say anything to any of the conservatives on this site who constantly refer to the Bible.

          • bob wire

            goat boy is trying to cut you from the herd Karolyn. Keep him busy with low end trash and I’ll circle and pen him down and make him cry.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So much verbiage and so much more manure. Should Mr. Wood be handing out boots, masks, and shovels.

  • Ken

    Im sorry. My previous post posted without my intention before I was done. The scripture passage was 1 John 4:20-21.

    • ajcottenjr

      KEN, BIBLICALLY YOU ARE RIGHT HOWEVER TO PARAPHRASE FATHER FLANAGAN (BOYS TOWN ) “HE’S TOO HEAVY TO BE MY BROTHER !”

  • ajcottenjr

    to flashy -in -the pan ! you are on the right path to follow OBAMA to your destruction ! his way is the way out ! spendthrift ! no domestic or global policy ! throw him out with yesterdays trash is too good for him ! please keep on following him & take a bunch of your pals with you ! p.s. how was the wall street protest? you were there were you not ? THE SHADOW

  • Downs1

    No wonder the liberals and their atheist friends want to remove the Tem Commandments! Everytime this foolish man ["The fool has said in his heart,'There is no God'"] opens his mouth or does something, he breaks at least one of the Commandments. There is no truth, shame, humility nor honor in this man! He will never repent nor change, therefore he will go down in ignominy like all the other arrogant dictators. History both ancient and recent is simply being repeated!

    • Downs1

      Read “Ten”

  • Stan1

    He’s a politician. You expect something else from that whole group>

  • JJM

    He’s targeting 1st place president as the most deceiving, least transparent and most destructive.
    “there are 2 million more people unemployed than there were at the beginning of his Administration.” And the unemployment rate is decreasing??????? More statistical lies.

  • AJ

    If tax returns are personal, how does Obama know some billionare only paid 1%? Obama lies out of both sides of his mouth so he believes the center of his mouth speaks the truth. If people want gloom and doom vote him back into office. His main purpose is to destroy the country and then elect himself leader for life.

  • ann

    OH RIGHT AND BUSH NEVER LIED. LET’S SEE….IRAQ WAR WAS STARTED ON A LIE….AND NOW A TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT, 4500 SOLDIERS DEAD AND 150,000 IRAQS DEAD. NOT ONE OF YOU SPOKE UP ABOUT
    IT. THE BIGGEST TERRORIST ATTACK ON US SOIL ON HIS WATCH. LEFT OBAMA WITH THE WORST DEFICIT EVER. AND NOW THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS VOTES NO ON EVERYTHING TO MAKE HIM FAIL EVEN AT THE COST OF RUINING THE ECONOMY AND THE MIDDLE CLASS. YOUR INTEGRITY IS LACKING TO SAY THE LEAST.
    GOOD LUCK IN NOV. 2012. YOU NEED IT WITH THE LINEUP YOU HAVE.

    • Angel Wannabe

      ann, ahem’ your rhetoric is a bit outdated__I guess when you were hired to troll Conservative sites, they didn’t offer up new talking points__its ok, we know! Have a Great Day! :)

    • NC

      Well Stated, Ann!! My guess is that 100% of the Conservtives here voted for george w. bush and maybe 30% will now admit it. He didn’t trick us who voted against him TWICE but he sure tricked those conservatives who voted for him who now say he is not a Conservative. I guess we are just smarter than that!

      • Angel Wannabe

        NC__ Payday today eh, how’s Soro’s to work for Bennies good?
        lol~ YOu libs should move along, your speil doesn’t work here, some newbies may fall for it but not the regulars.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Considering who owns the media outlets,were you expecting that the voices of conservatives would be heard? Don’t mention the Fox outlet as an example of conservative voices because the wolf dressed up as a sheep comes to mind and it still stinks like a wolf.

  • AVCurmudgeon

    I can’t really say that calling himself the 4th Greatest President in history is a lie, exactly. Delusional, yes. Self-promoting, yes. Arrogant, yes. But a lie? Eh, not so much; after all, “ranking” Presidents is a matter of interpretation, just as is the exercise in rating the “top 100 performers” or “the best quarterback of all time.” You can be wrong (as Obama is), but it’s not really a lie. Just the best possible exposition of the inner workings of a vainglorious and corrupt politician who is afraid to let history judge him without prompting.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      I would like to read what Your definition of a lie is. Don’t be cute and print out the definition from the dictionary.

  • Bob Marshall

    WORLDNETDAILY.COM Check out whistleblower magazine. See if it is for you. Great books available such as THE MANCHURIAN PRESIDENT and Audacity of Deceit. Obama exposed.

  • Kevin Beck

    Personally, I wasn’t too surprised that Obummer set such a low bar for himself. He chose three other Presidents that I consider among the worst in our nation’s history for their assaults against individual liberties. That is one qualification that he has in common with the other three. But just like you, Chip, I can’t tolerate such a crappy program as 60 Minutes; it’s 61 minutes too long for my stomach.

  • Steve

    I wonder if our article writer also wrote about the lies Bush told us. Bush lies cost thousands of American lives and at a cost of over $800 Billion and the lies themselves were based on immoral invasion. Of if our article just is an Obama hater ignoring all the things Obama did have accomplished in his 3 years. The Bush family lied so often it is amazing we are still here.

    What has Obama done???

    1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommenda­tions for ways to cut spending
    2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
    3. Instituted enforcemen­t for equal pay for women
    4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
    5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
    6. Ended media blackout on war casualties­; reporting full informatio­n
    7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family
    8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Informatio­n Act
    9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparen­cy as much as possible
    10. Limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House
    11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administra­tion
    12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afgha­nistan longer than their enlistment date.
    13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afgha­nistan
    14. Removed restrictio­ns on embryonic stem-cell research
    15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
    16. New federal funding for science and research labs
    17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
    18. Increased infrastruc­ture spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
    19. Funds for high-speed­, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
    20. New funds for school constructi­on
    21 The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
    22. US Auto industry rescue plan
    23. Housing rescue plan
    24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
    25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
    26. US financial and banking rescue plan
    27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed            

    • JeffH

      Steve, in your haste to defend the O’man did you verify all of those?
      NOT!

      Judicial Watch’s Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians for 2011 are listed in alphabetical order:
      Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-AL)
      Former Senator John Ensign (R-NV)
      Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
      Attorney General Eric Holder (D)
      Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)
      President Barack Obama (D)
      Rep. Laura Richardson (D-CA)
      Rep. David Rivera (R-FL)
      Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
      Rep. Don Young (R-AK)

      Dishonorable Mentions for 2011 include:
      Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC)
      Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA)
      Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
      Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano (D)
      Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
      Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY)
      Rep. Hal Rogers (R-KY)
      Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius (D)

      Note that six of the ten list are Democrats and six of the eight listed on the dishonorable mention are Democrats. That’s 75% of those on both lists are Democrats. That has to say something for the overall mentality of the attitude of being above the law that permeates the Democratic Party.

      As for President Obama making this list and being listed as the most admired man in the country speaks volumes as to just how far American society has declined. Why would a nation of people admire one of the most corrupt politicians of the day and probably in the history of the American presidency?

      Obama has repeatedly defied the US Constitution and federal laws. He ignores the mandates of Congress and the general opinion of the American people and yet they turn around and admire him for it?

      And then there has to be a lot said when the US Attorney General makes it to the Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians list. The man who is supposed to uphold the law turns out to be one of the biggest violators of the law. Every day, more Congressmen and women are calling for his immediate resignation and even more are signing on to a vote of no confidence and yet he sees himself as doing no wrong. Leaving Eric Holder in his role as US Attorney General is like placing a career pedophile in charge of a day care.

      I wish we could post Judicial Watch’s lists of the Ten Most and the Dishonorable Mention outside every polling booth in the nation so that it’s the last thing voters see before placing their votes. Just maybe, it would be enough to change a few votes this next year.
      http://godfatherpolitics.com/2887/americas-most-corrupt-politicians/#ixzz1i36iMbBa

      • clarence swinney

        Judicial Watch you kidding?
        None more right wing extreme. None

        • JeffH

          Well clarence, maybe you could give me some advice on another more creditable source…like one of your favorites…maybe Media Matters, The Daily Chimp/smirkingchimp.com, OurFuture.org or democraticunderground.com?

          • JC

            See Jeff? He doesn’t come back with anything valid at all.
            He labels it right wing and that should be good enough…cuz he says so. Typical Liberal.

          • JeffH

            JC, yepper. The man is an obsessed progressive professional bloger.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well said jeffH, I believe I also saw some of those names on the membership list of the National Socialists too?!

      • Palin16

        JeffH,
        Don’t forget Harry Reid, although it was 2010 when SEIU rigged the election. 2011 saw more garbage spewing out of his mouth. Recently, his son Josh applied for a job as city attorney for Henderson, NV even though he did not meet the minimum requirements. Several other worthwhile candidates did. Lo and behold, Harry “made the call”. The requirements were suddenly lowered, and Josh got the $190,000 a year job.

        • JeffH

          Palin16, yer right. It’s difficult to imagine Dirty Harry not making the list.

  • jopa

    Too bad Ron Paul wants to get rid of the EPA.I like that agency and it reminds me of not too many years ago the folks around Cleveland when they were down by lake Erie in the evening and there was a chill in the air, they were able to set the lake on fire for warmth.Who would want to go back to those days.Breathing the air in New York city was equivalent to smoking five packs a day and now they can hold marathons.Time to think a little.

    • Karolyn

      Let’s not forget the dead fish along the shores of many rivers and the stench that came from the rivers themselves.

    • bob wire

      I tend to think perhaps Ron Paul is going allow such matters to be decided in a court of law. It would take a class action suit of major size to defeat some of these offenders but it is possible.

      • JC

        Let Justice prevail.

  • Robert Wayne

    Nothing surprises me about Obama anymore. Not only is he the worst president in the history of this country. He’s also the biggest liar of any of them and the most arrogant. I know of nothing good that can honestly be said about him.

  • http://n/a Jim

    ‘foreign policy accomplishments’. never mind that Barry has none, I did know that Johnson had any either!

  • Daylo

    Nothing but Death shall keep me from the polls to vote AGAINST Obama.

  • Palin16

    From the Barack Obama 2012 countdown till out of office calendar:
    “The members of our highest court…are charged with the vital task of applying principles put to paper more than twenty centuries ago.”…Barack Obama, May 2009

  • chuckb

    jeffh, google “clarence swinney” (the talking chimp) same mentality, you can see where he’s coming from. he lives in his own little world of confused facts.

    • JeffH

      chuckb, I’ve done it many times in the past…the guy is a “proffessional” liberal loon.

  • Seek Wisdom

    Maybe the president has picked up the lying habit from Karl Rove & ‘dubya”.

  • Tazio2013

    SOME OF YOU MAY APPRECIATE THIS AND SOME OF YOU MAY NOT. I DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR SENDING THIS BECAUSE IT’S THE TRUTH.

    If any other of our presidents had doubled the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had then proposed to double the debt again within 10 years, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had criticized a state law that he admitted he never even read, would you think that he is just an ignorant hot head?

    If any other of our presidents joined the country of Mexico and sued a state in the United States to force that state to continue to allow illegal immigration, would you question his patriotism and wonder who’s side he was on?

    If any other of our presidents had pronounced the Marine Corps like Marine Corpse, would you think him an idiot?

    If any other of our presidents had put 87,000 workers out of work by arbitrarily placing a moratorium on offshore oil drilling on companies that have one of the best safety records of any industry because one foreign company had an accident, would you have agreed?

    If any other of our presidents had used a forged document as the basis of the moratorium that would render 87000 American workers unemployed would you support him?

    If any other of our presidents had been the first President to need a Tele-prompter installed to be able to get through a press conference, would you have laughed and said this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and is really controlled by smarter men behind the scenes?

    If any other of our presidents had spent hundreds of thousands of dollars
    to take his First Lady to a play in NYC, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had reduced your retirement plan holdings of GM stock by 90% and given the unions a majority stake in GM, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had made a joke at the expense of the Special Olympics, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had given Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive
    and incorrectly formatted DVDs, when Gordon Brown had given him a thoughtful and historically significant gift, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had given the Queen of England an iPod containing videos of his speeches, would you have thought it a proud moment for America ?

    If any other of our presidents had bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had visited Austria and made reference to the nonexistent “Austrian language,” would you have brushed it off as a minor slip?

    If any other of our presidents had filled his cabinet and circle of advisers with people who cannot seem to keep current in their income taxes, would you have approved?

    If any other of our presidents had stated that there were 57 states in the United States , wouldn’t you have had second thoughts about his capabilities? *

    If any other of our presidents would have flown all the way to Denmark to make a five minute speech about how the Olympics would benefit him walking out his front door in his home town, would you not have thought he was a self-important, conceited, egotistical jerk.

    If any other of our presidents had been so Spanish illiterate as to refer to “Cinco de Cuatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador when it was the 5th of May (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, wouldn’t you have winced in embarrassment?

    If any other of our presidents had burned 9,000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have concluded he’s a hypocrite?

    If any other of our presidents’ administrations had okayed Air Force One flying low over millions of people followed by a jet fighter in downtown Manhattan causing widespread panic, would you have wondered whether they actually get what happened on 9-11?

    If any other of our presidents had failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the Midwest with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans , would you want it made into a major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence?

    If any other of our presidents had created the position of 32 Czars who report directly to him, bypassing the House and Senate on much of what is happening in America , would you have ever approved.

    If any other of our presidents had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

    So, tell me again, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive?

    Can’t think of anything? Don’t worry. He’s done all this in 24 months – so you have that much time to come up with an answer.

    Every statement and action in this email is factual and directly attributable to Barrack Hussein Obama. Every bumble is a matter of record and completely verifiable
    AND NOW–HE ACTUALLY WANTS US TO RE-ELECT HIM.
    WAKE UP AMERICA 2012 IS UPON US.

    “Tis a pity that with Willard “Mittens” Romney as BHO’s November “opponent, BHO will more than likely be re-elected and The Powers That Be will have their record intact having chosen every Republikrat POTUS since A. Lincoln.

    “All it takes for evil to triumph is
    for good men to do nothing.”

    • NC

      TAZ, SOMETHING TELLS ME YOU MAY NOT HAVE VOTED FOR OBAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE.DID YOU VOTE FOR bush? HIS NUMBERS ARE IN> WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US A LIST OF WHERE HE STARTED AND WHERE HE LEFT US? WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN?
      I LOVE YOUR BLAST AT OBAMA FOR CAUSING “WIDE SPREAD PANIC” FOR FLYING LOW OVER NYC.> YOU DIDN’T SAY A WORD ABOUT HIS ENDING A WAR IN THE WRONG COUNTRY STARTED FOR THE WRONG REASONS THAT KILLED TENS OF THOUSANDS OR MAYBE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. I WONDER HOW MUCH SCREAMING AND ‘WIDE SPREAD PANIC” THERE WAS AS THEIR LOVED ONES WATCHED THEM DIE??

  • sandsgrandmother

    In addition to the lies ones after another, the other thing that amazes me is that no one holds the journalist responsible also for helping to spread lies instead of facts.
    Isn’t it about time people start diving into the journalist pasts as well rather it be Barbara Walters and etc.

  • Karolyn

    Vote in the Townhall Presidential Straw Poll
    http://pages.townhall.com/campaign/presidential-straw-poll//

  • Karolyn

    I just got a DNC begging email with a video attached showing the top 10 gaffes of the Republican nominees. Perry, Romney and Cain were hit hard. There was nothing for Bachmann. What got me was that what they chose for Ron Paul’s gaffe got hurrays and clapping from the audience. It was in the SC debate when he was asked about heroin and prostitution.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PMLlNySviZI

    • Palin16

      That was funny Karolyn. I’ve always enjoyed a little political humor. It appeared to me the part with Cain he was just rehearsing with his own people, so he’s not delivering a message as he would be addressing a crowd.

  • Seek Wisdom

    Much of tazio’s statements apply directly to the words and actions of ‘dubya’.

  • Rusty

    There’s plenty of blame to go around, folks! Blame Congress for selling out to lobbyists, blame Unions for raising their wages without coresponding raise of productivity,causing inflation, blame the POTUS for stopping gulf drilling over one leak (and don’t forget the $2Billion extortion package), blame businesses for hiring illegals, blame C.E.O.s & directors for offshoring jobs,above all, blame ourseleves for not taking an active part in preventing the ills that beset our society. Personally, I hope to spend some time next year working to unseat my own congressman for whatever ruinous votes he’s perpetrated, and whatever “pork” he’s brought to the area. Notice I don’t want to bring down your conressman for your “pork,” that’s your job! Just do it.

  • Donald

    Well, as someone observed some time ago: “Politics ain’t Beanbag”. Lies and innuendos are part and parcel of the whole process. The wise ignore the ads and the speeches and look at the facts and don’t take counsel of your fears.

  • E. Katevatis

    THE RW BROUGHT THIS ECONOMY IN THE HOLE,OBAMA IS GETING SLOW OUT BUD THE RW WHAND MORE MONEY FOR WELTHY, THE DOLLAR IS PAPER YOU GET NOTHING FOR IT.I SEE WW3 IS ROUND THE CORNER, THIS TIME WEE GOING IN THE HOLLE TOGETHER DIMOCRATS AND RW REP.

  • gnafu

    I’m late into the blurbs about this subject because I’ve been busy reading more about Sustainable Development by Bill Clinton 1992 and the hook up with United Nations Agenda 21. If you haven’t read about this or attended one of the meetings concering Agenda 21, I suggest you get your computers headed in that direction. We are just seeing the tip of the ice berg these past three years. There’s a lot more a-coming. Agenda 21 is already in action in many States. It’s hidden but not hidden. City planning commissions have passed Agenda 21 and don’t know what lies ahead of them. On the rim, it looks like ‘save our enviornment.’ But, the big picture is much more than that. You’ve heard about Transportation and how we must economize and use smaller cars due to emissions(and gas usage). You’ve heard about Planning Commissions wanting to keep your land free from development – keeping green space, and how they will help you do that by you signing over your land to them upon your demise. You’ve heard about Reverse Mortgages and how this can help home owners through rough times. Banks or whoever has control of your Reverse Mortgage will own your house and property when you sign on the dotted line. In some States, if you own property and wish to develope it as a business, the Planning Commission that has signed on with Agenda 21 will demand that you have a business on the bottom floor but must create living space on upper levels. Why? Because all the people who will be herded into cities must have a place to live. Their property and homes will be confiscated and turned into “green space.” So, with that much said, we are looking at the end result which will be “One World Government” Agenda 21 has been put into effect in some foreign countries. The only one that back-fired was in Africa. That revolt was unexpected. Type in Agenda 21 on your search engine and start reading. We can only stop this Agenda if we contact our Congressmen/ladies and tell them to reject Agenda 21, Revoke Obama Executive Order 13575, and Rescind the White House Rural Council. This means faxing, phoning and writing to your State Representatives and Senators.NOW.

  • AppraisHer

    Flashy, look to your own Census for job numbers. From 2008-2010, the Federal public sector gained 98,000 jobs (after loss of census workers), State public sector gained 42,000 jobs, only Local public sector lost jobs-an impressive 258,000, due to loss of tax money, (due to UNEMPLOYMENT). While the local public sector job loss looks impressive, the Private sector lost 7.2 MILLION jobs. But none of this is important now, because barry’s on vacation.

  • Cayla MK

    Let me hit this out of the park and then some with some candid nonpartisan political cander directed at most of the loyal oppition.

    Repblicans study the views of those on the social right. You know the religious evangelicals who support the sme policies the NAZIs supported and for the same reasons to proomote the Christain faith against the Jewish that would denie Americanwomen the right to hoose their medical providers which that is what midwives are to deliver their children safely and provide safe legal birth control and abortion once opposed by doctors that cased due to malpractice my and many othersCP.

  • Cayla MK

    Let me hit this out of the park and then some with some candid nonpartisan political cander directed at most of the loyal oppition.

    Repblicans study the views of those on the social right. You know the religious evangelicals who support the sme policies the NAZIs supported and for the same reasons to proomote the Christain faith against the Jewish that would denie Americanwomen the right to hoose their medical providers which that is what midwives are to deliver their children safely and provide safe legal birth control and abortion once opposed by doctors that cased due to malpractice my and many othersCP.

    That right, the relgious right are making the same raciest mistakes that every religios communtity makes when it tries in vain to impose their belief on everyone else, and the pope is a NAZI.

    The point being that if you are mderate or liberal on social issues but fiscal conservitive on money and finance vote for the Libertarain Party. After all, tthey fit you better, and Republicans will never achieve the political goals with a founder like leberal Licoln and Rosevelt.

  • ann

    OH ANGEL BABY…THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN’T IT? YOUR X PRES WAS THE WORST ON RECORD. BAD WAR, MANY DEAD AND DESTROYED BUDGET. CAN’T GET ANY WORSE THEN THAT.

    TAZIO IF ANY OTHER PRESIDENT WAS APPROACHED WHILE HE WAS READING TO SCHOOL CHILDREN AND TOLD WE HAVE JUST BEEN ATTACKED AND THEN GOES BACK TO READING WOULD YOU APPROVE?

    IF ANY OTHER PRESIDENT LIED TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO GO TO WAR WOULD YOU APPROVE?

    IF ANY OTHER PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED BY THE SUPREME COURT WOULD YOU APPROVE?

    AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON

    • hitthedeck

      Bush was your president also. You had plenty of mud to throw then and your hands are still filthy. So get off the angel dust and take a little of the dirt you pitched and shut the %&*& up and get over on a liberal site and set up an alter for Obama.

      • Angel Wannabe

        hithedeck__It just gets old doesn’t it?

    • Angel Wannabe

      ann_ “Tisk, Tisk, there’s a couple of folks on here who use “angel” in they’re name, but I’ll bite…

      ___ Still the same old tired, “its all Bushes fault rhetoric”, STILL the Right Left Paradigm with no facts, no sources and nothing new to add___Yawn…..Your thought pattern (Ideology) isn’t worth the effort it would take to argue about it__So Happy New Year! :)

  • JaneYCan

    What I hate most about this president, is the way he has created such a huge divide among Americans! I’ve spent the last hour reading your comments (both right and left) and I hear the anger and hate from all of you. Obama has created this class warfare. A good leader brings his people together and creates an environment where everyone has a chance to grow. His first 2 years in office he had a super majority. Republicans weren’t able to stop him from passing his agenda. How did that work out? The unemployement kept rising, the debt kept growing, and we ended up in three wars (which cost us dearly)! We need a leader who will heal our country and restore common respect for each other. I listen to the debates and to the presidents speeches, but I will not watch a slanderous commercial from either side. Too many lies flood the air waves and we are fools to listen to them. I am an Independant voter and they say that my group will decide the next election…so I take my vote seriously. I don’t appreciate the class war-fare. We used to be proud Americans that loved our country. Obama has destroyed that like no other president I’ve ever known.(Eisenhower was president when I was born, so I’ve seen lots of them come and go!) We are beginning to sound just like the representatives that we think are such failures. Instead of pointing your fingers at each other, why don’t we work together to find someone who will lead us with honor? Why don’t we try to find some middle ground…or at least speak to each other with a little respect? Its going to be a long year, full of political slander and mud-slinging. How are we ever going to bring our country together if we spend our time hating each other? I’m Independant because I don’t like what is coming from either side! Dr. Paul is gaining support, but I don’t believe that he can keep our nation safe! I am worried about all of the options! I can only hope that an Independant candidate will emerge and save our country! You might not agree with me…but give it some thought! Let’s hope that the New Year will bring us closer to the answers that we all need!

    • bob wire

      and it’s that kind of thinking that I hate!

      You hate the man and not the divide! Misdirected guilty and blame.

      You are not taking responsibility for your actions and thoughts.

      You are saying “He made Us!” which is pure Bull$hit for any adult to process thought in such a manner. There is thousands just like you.

      I don’t hate you, I hate the way you think.

      Love the sinner, hate the sin.

      • Karolyn

        you’re right bob. No one person can divide people. People just naturally gravitate to the side they believe in. We all have to take responsibility for our actions. How can one man be blamed for fundamental differences in people?

        • Vigilant

          Karolyn and bob wire/deerinwater (or deerinheadlights is more approriate):

          “No one person can divide people. People just naturally gravitate to the side they believe in. We all have to take responsibility for our actions. How can one man be blamed for fundamental differences in people?”

          How utterly naiive you both are! It’s not the “natural gravitation” we’re talking about, it’s the manner in which this man has nurtured and inflamed the divisions that were already there. Even FDR, whose socialism divided the country, didn’t do it to purposely exacerbate the natural divisions of the people.

          Tell me, when a president nominates/appoints unaccountable Czars that are avowed communists (Van Jones) or socialist redistributors (Berwick) or Maoists (Anita Dunn), i.e., those who THRIVE on class warfare, how can you say with a straight face that he’s not dividing the people?

          How, when he makes statements about the Cambridge police that are overtly racist, or keeps in office a Chicago thug as Attorney General who consistently thwarts the will of the people and pontificates on racism in this country, can you get a good night’s sleep knowing you’ve made false statements?

          How, when ACORN/SEIU voter registration fraud is covered up by government, when the Black Panthers are allowed to walk after clear voter intimidation, can you even look at yourself in the mirror and say, “this man is tries to bring people together?”

          Why do you persist in this canard when the man shows with his every move that he’s put the important business of this nation on the back burner in favor of running a non-stop political campaign to get re-elected? Where do you get off claiming he’s a great mediator when he continually disses his political opposition with lies and innuendo? No president in our history has denigrated the political opposition as he has instead of being president of the people.

          And let’s not forget the favoritism shown to labor unions through illegal acts such as overriding bankruptcy law to put Unions in charge of “Government Motors,” or using the unconstitutional pressure of the NLRB to stop Boeing from building a plant in SC where unions don’t have business in a stranglehold. I could go on ad nauseum.

          And you, Karolyn, an admitted admirer of Saul Alinsky, the great “divide and conquer” maven of our times, how can you in an ostensibly sane moment claim that Obama’s not a pea in the pod of socialists who would destroy this country?

          You’re not just blind, you’re deaf and dumb.

  • Aurelio

    Lincoln used to say that you can deceive most of the people for sometime, or some people all the time, what you cannot do is to deceive all the people all the time.
    What kind of mental state would produce such an unrealistic appraisal of a situation. This man is an elitist that encloses himself, like many dictators, with his worshipers in his ivory tower to give his ego the chance to live out his outlandish fantasies. The man was smaller than anybody thought. Oliver North said it since the beginning : Obama is an empty suit. The truth needs no defense, he is cooking himself in his own sauce.

    • bob wire

      and Ollie North is a documented liar.

  • ann

    Janeycan…..you’re right this country is divided but to say it is Obama’s fault is dead wrong. Many times he tried to bring the sides together and many times the lead Republicans rebuked him. Many of us are done
    with him trying to mend the divide because it is pretty obvious and actually said by the likes of Mitch Mc Connel ” We want OBama to fail”. When you have the attitude of running the economy to the ground at the expense of the American people just to have the President look bad it is truly a sad day in America.

    And Aurelio my dear do remember Oliver North is a criminal , indicted for 3 felony counts in the Iran-Contra affair, lied to Congress and dismissed by President Reagan. So to listen to him is a little sick.

    • hitthedeck

      Ann sounds like you are another liberal beating a dead horse. What the hell has Oliver North got to do with Obama? That defense does not work anymore and beating around the BUSH doesn’t work either. No its not Obama’s fault I agree with you its pie in the sky people like you that put a creature created by government hand outs in office. Tax payers have supported this guy from the cradle all the way to the Whitehouse. His campaign money is kickbacks from the stimulus from the people he says are not paying their fare share.

    • Vigilant

      “When you have the attitude of running the economy to the ground at the expense of the American people just to have the President look bad it is truly a sad day in America.”

      ann “my dear,” you need to amend your statement to make is just right:

      “When you have the attitude of running the economy to the ground at the expense of the American people just to support your cronies and fill your campaign coffers it is truly a sad day in America.”

      That describes Obama, and it’s spot on.

      You’re welcome.

    • Dan

      Ann is right. Barack Obama’s unshakable root belief is that we have to stop the bickering and work together. His “One America” speech at the Democratic convention in 2004 introduced us to him and this exciting new way of thinking. However this philosophy has been extremely difficult to enact with the leadership of both sides choosing instead to fight and hate each other rather than cooperate. The Republicans, with the lone exception of John Huntsman, will use every vote, strategy, and attack they can think of to oppose President Obama and the Democrats, regardless of policy, ideology or benefit to the American people. Many on the left are extremely disappointed with the president for continuing to reach out to and compromise with the right. Barack Obama is an optimist, a pragmatist and a diplomat. Sadly he is up against a sharply divided congress backed up by shrill big mouths and entrenched moneyed interests on both sides that care only about “winning” and their own short term self-interests. The good news is that Barack Obama is not giving up on any of us, even those who oppose him the most.

  • Tom Shaffrey

    “Warrior” has said it best !

  • hitthedeck

    People don’t care if he is lying anymore because they are to the point that they don’t listen to him anymore. They stop listening to a president that knows nothing about how a country works without the government telling them what to do. A lie is nothing if no one hears it! He is finished and lies aren’t going to get him reelected. He needs to pack up his prayer rug and golf clubs and move to Hawaii.

  • Honeybee

    So Obama is going to raise a billion dollars. Then he is going to use all that money to sling mud at anyone with enough courage to oppose him and his Communist policies. I know he would not do it, but a better use for the billion dollars would be to use it to help the very people who voted him into office. That would win him more votes than slinging mud. MAKE NO MISTAKE, I WANT OBAMA OUT OF “MY” WHITE HOUSE. HECK, I WANT HIM OUT OF THE WORLD. It does concern me that we have an electorate that is so completely ignorant, and just plain stupid that they really should not be able to vote. When an electorate is composed of those whose livelihood is completely dependent upon the government, what reason do they have to vote against it. AMERICA, something has to give and get out of town and that something is OBAMA!

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    ms finney for someone that likes to spout brilliant and helpful remarks , about someone should pick up the Bible,,where does it instruct our govt. to take care any one.All these concertives that like to starve people have a hell of a time getting them to do the menial work…The Bible says if you don’t work you dont eat. Also indicates if you shell out kids its your responibility yo feed them. Not the concertive Republicans or Wall street’s or anyone’s but your own…….

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    Thats the broadest ,smelliest. offcolor brush I could find the time for at the moment…

  • freeze

    When one white guy can stand in the senate as say you lied and another make a statement that he hope Obama fail knowing that if he does the whole country fail. If you can believe the false hood that’s being spread here I see I am in the wrong group. The man is BLACK and the reason he’s not getting the support of the rich because he want them to pay their fair share. One rich fat cat said it takes 2 million to feed his family of 4. Those that read this should know that Obama have kept Most of his campain promises. He took care of Ben Lotin and 27 other, brought the troups home from a war that we had no business getting into. Where are the weapon of mass destruction? When you sit on your hands REP party and say this is wrong but never can come up with a plan of your own because YOU don’t want to say a BLACK man have done more good for this country as any president with what he had to work with. If the REP party could spend more time working with the president we all would have a better place to live. The jobs were lost before Obama got their and as long as the REP party with their greedy minds the american people will continue to lose jobs. The banks don’t care abut you loosing your house because the loan are guarenteed by the goverment. The bank get paid then turn around and put the house back on the market so who wouldn’t like those odds?

    • Thinking about

      Hey, Freeae, guess he could be like others who prints a newsletter with his name on it and then deny it, this would not be a lie with some of these bleeding hearts here. So many lies and not enough cover for those who tells them.

    • JC

      Which man is Black? Obama?
      He’s not black, he’s a Mulatto.
      So if you’re going to pull the race card, make sure you
      include everybody. ;)

  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    Hey freeze you have an aiiy with ms finney , you two should get together with some more of these that couldnt deliver good sense even if yall had telepromters, and form an exclusive club and explain all that jargon to one another.

  • Mad Max

    Memo to America: Stop waiting for Democrats and Republicans to save you. It’s bad for your health and your future. Can’t you tell? You have another choice – use it!

    “WAKE UP PEOPLE!”
    Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( http://www.revolution2.osixs.org )

  • Nancy

    First time reading this thread and I’m appalled at how much time and energy is given to Flashy. Ignore him. He’s an idiot.

    • JC

      Good call.

  • http://personlibertydigest personallitycrisis

    To ValDM, Their not only the party of no their a bunch of do nothing pathetic politicians.Im not in love with dems but unless you are a right winger,defending lazy scumbags like that is just blind unintelligence.

  • Joe Berger

    THE WEST….and that includes North America, Europe and Australia. All of us are a civilization in decline. Our birth rate has dropped to 1.4 chldren per female….so those of European decent will be virtally extinct in 200 years or less. ( we have a half life of about 50 years.) WW2 was fought for Stalin. Stalin was given most of central Europe and later china Korea Vietnam Cambodia etc. The entire world adopted Marxism as a philosophy. Nation states are part of the past.( White countries must open their borders to any and all lower class individuals from the 3rd world who wish to come here.) Are Republicans Marxist?? Of course they are…not in an economic way but certainly they all buy into Marx’s concepts of human nature and social philosophy. The fundamental difference in productivity between Haiti and New Zealand is in the human CAPITAL. We have all come to close our minds and deny that there are fundamental differences in HUMAN CAPITAL in all countries. That subject has become total TABOO.
    We now are forced to deny the most obvious fact….that there are enormous differences in racial intelligence. We know that the productivity of any country is mostly a product of their collective IQ. But we are not allowed to say such things in public. Are we??

  • CHUCK U oBAMA

    oBAMA is a traitor to our country! He should be arrested and tried for treason and lock his whole damn family up!!

  • http://personalliberty.com May

    I have just spent two hours reading these comments on Chip’s article. First, I applaud the website for allowing freedom of speech, regardless of political pursuasion, and I appreciate the comments that are fact-based and stated clearly enough that the reader can understand them. Second, I am appalled at the name calling and lack of respect expressed by others for both our political leaders and other people’s comments on this website. Is this the level of character that our political leaders represent? Shame on us! Our country is only as strong as its citizenry, and based on what I have read here we have only to look at ourselves to find fault and need of reform.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Just read the quote you are railing about. President Obama is NOT saying his administration’s legislative and foreign policy accomplishments are better than other presidents. He IS saying that those accomplishments are on par with the others – some better perhaps, some not so much. You put A LOT of spin on this article!

  • Santiago

    does any president really have such power as it is generally assigned to mr obama or mr bush just to mention the most recent ones? not at all. presidents are mere figures, yes top important figures, but figures. is the invisible stablishment’s crew the real power behind the power. the ones with particular, concrete, tangible interests, all from all parties and beyond national borders. may the president of any self owned small companny be as the pilot and owner of a private plane with the right to choose where and how to get some particular place, but not any president, ceo, director, chief, boss or whatever title given to that that are mere conductors responding to at least a board of representatives of the real owners of the organization structure in question. it is so easy to attack obama, or bush, or sarkozy or any other “president” but how hard is it to describe or at least even indentify the ones behind the thrones. yes obama is been questionable to say the least, but who is obama? obama is all the conglomerates behind him, the industrials, the institutionals, all of them.

  • paul

    Wait until the public finds out what o has planned for us next! It isn’t going to be popular with the natives, but then nuclear war is seldom popular with any one.

    Have you noticed how articles about o keep disappearing from the web? Interesting.

  • Diana

    If people are as blindly dedicated to our Pres. as Eleanor
    Clift, then our country is doomed sooner than we think.

  • Dan Gray

    The “article” asks, “Where did the other $220,000 per job go?” I will tell you since some of it went to me. The states, including my state of Oregon, were absolutely devastated by the economic collapse of 2008. The stimulus was desperately needed just so the states could meet payroll for teachers, cops, prison guards, firefighters, etc. I am a high school teacher as well as a parent of kids in public schools. Without the stimulus money, state employees would have been laid off. Schools would have closed. Vital public and safety services would have been decimated. The stimulus was large enough to tie us over until the economy started to recover but not enough to create very many new jobs.

  • Jack

    Get used to it folks, Obama will be your president until 2016. Good thing, cause letting another republican in the white house will surely sink us.

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