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Barack Obama Is A Socialist

January 3, 2013 by  


 
Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. Happy New Year 2013. With a new year comes fresh thinking and creativity. I’ve had a chance to think about our President and all he’s doing to America and our economy.

And guess what conclusion I’ve come to? Barack Obama is a socialist.

That should be pretty clear to anyone with a brain — at least anyone who hasn’t been brainwashed… I mean educated… in public schools by socialist teachers’ union members.

Liberals and the media (I know, I repeat myself) constantly insinuate that anyone who says “Obama is a socialist” is crazy, ignorant, racist or extreme. Funny, a national poll shows that a 55 percent of Americans associate the word “socialist” with Obama. Another poll shows that a majority of Democratic Party members support socialism. A third poll shows that young people (among Obama’s most loyal supporters) now feel more favorably toward socialism than capitalism.

So if the shoe fits, wear it! It’s time for Obama and his supporters to come out of the closet.

But sometimes, you need a little humor to prove your point. So let’s look at the facts up close and personal, Jeff Foxworthy style. The comedian has proven with his humor — and without a doubt — who qualifies as a redneck. I’ve put together a list that leaves no doubt that Obama is a socialist, and we are all in big trouble.

So here goes. Obama might be a socialist if:

If you don’t understand that the reason babies scream hysterically the moment they are born is because they instantly realize they are facing a future of $100 trillion in debt, hyperinflation, 80 percent tax rates and no jobs, you might be a socialist.

If you think it’s a good idea to run America based on big government, big unions, big taxes, big spending and “social justice” — even though Detroit is a one-party Democratic town run with those exact same policies for decades that is now a bankrupt, empty city that leads the Nation in poverty, food stamps, murder, abandoned buildings and broken street lamps, you might be a socialist.

If the only thing you, your cabinet members and czars know about business is from books you read at Harvard or Columbia (all of which were written by Karl Marx), you might be a socialist.

If you want to allocate hundreds of millions of dollars to the Internal Revenue Service to go after tax cheats — even though your Administration is filled with tax cheats, including the guy in charge of America’s taxes (Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner), you might be a socialist.

If you created the name “Cash for Clunkers” yet you don’t realize all the bribes you’ve given to your most loyal Democratic voters should be called “Cash for Flunkers,” you might be a socialist.

If you think food stamps, disability, aid to dependent children and unemployment checks are “economic stimulus,” you might be a socialist.

If you believe it’s greedy for taxpayers to want to keep more of their own money that they earned but it’s not greedy to demand government confiscate other people’s money and redistribute it to those who didn’t earn it (i.e., your voters), you might be a socialist.

If your tax policies are so onerous that even Denise Rich, one of the leading Democrat contributors in America for the past three decades, renounces her U.S. citizenship to move to Austria, you might be a socialist.

If you think George W. Bush adding $4 trillion to the National debt in eight years was an embarrassment, a travesty and a disgrace but you have no problem adding $6 trillion to the National debt in only four years, you might be a socialist — and a world-class hypocrite, too.

If you actually said “You didn’t build that” to business owners because you think bridges, roads, highways, airports, schools and hospitals led to their success but you don’t understand that business owners and taxpayers paid all the taxes that paid for government to build all those things in the first place and government ought to be thanking us, you might be a socialist.

If you call yourself a “champion of small business” while you demonize small-business owners in every speech and media interview, try desperately to raise their taxes and eliminate their tax deductions, and in just your first four years as President passed more than 60,000 new rules, regulations and mandates that make it impossible to run a lemonade stand in America anymore, you might be a socialist.

If you think the “White House party crashers” are terrible people because they crashed your White House state dinner without an invitation but you want to give instant citizenship to millions of uninvited “illegal immigrants” who crashed our border, you might be a socialist.   

If you think it’s terrible that a college or law student has to pay $9 per month for her own contraception but you see no problem with colleges and law schools — run by your most loyal leftist intellectual supporters — charging that same student $50,000 per year to attend that school so ultra-liberal professors can be paid $250,000 per year for teaching one course per week, you might be a socialist.

If you think anyone who doesn’t read The New York Times is dumb and ignorant but think it’s OK that the Democratic-controlled Congress passed a 2,000-page healthcare bill without reading it, you might be a socialist.

If you think New York Times columnist Paul Krugman deserves a Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences and you deserve a Nobel Peace Prize even though neither of you ever created a job or did anything to produce one minute of peace in the world, you might be a socialist — and an egomaniac, too.

If you think it’s OK to meet with dictators, bullies, tyrants, communists, American-haters and terrorist sympathizers without preconditions but have no interest in meeting with Republican leaders in Congress, you might be a socialist.

If you think it’s OK to give Constitutional rights to terrorists but not to the bondholders, shareholders and secured creditors of GM and Chrysler when you stole the company from them and awarded it to your biggest contributors (the same unions that bankrupted them), you might be a socialist. 

If you think it was a good idea to steal $26 billion from U.S. taxpayers to save the $100,000 pensions of union members at GM and Chrysler but it was just fine to allow all the non-union autoworkers to lose their pensions, you might be a socialist.

If you think the “fiscal cliff” is about actually being forced to actually cut some government spending when the real “fiscal cliff” is the $6 trillion you added to the National debt in your first term, you might be a socialist.

If you think things are “moving in the right direction” when food stamp rolls are growing 75 times faster than job rolls, you might be a socialist.

If you think Raul Castro, the leader of communist Cuba, firing 1 million government employees by telling them “government can no longer employ or take care of everyone” and promising to fire another million this year isn’t a hint that perhaps America needs to reduce our workforce of 22 million government employees, you might be a socialist.

If you think it was OK for Nancy Pelosi to pass Obamacare so she could benefit from the special clause on page 1,890 that gives free facelifts to public officials, you might be a socialist. (Just kidding!)

If you want to convert America to a “green economy” to create millions of “new jobs” (even though Spain has proven the green economy destroys three times as many jobs as it creates and leads to 25 percent unemployment — 50 percent unemployment among young adults), you might be a socialist — and an idiot, too.

If you claim to have “saved” millions of jobs with your stimulus package but the labor participation rate is the lowest since 1982 (and for men, it’s the lowest since 1948), you might be a socialist — and it’s obvious you learned math from a teachers’ union member in a failing public school.

If you claim you are a fan of oil drilling and you have “dramatically increased” oil drilling during your first term as President while oil drilling permits are actually down more than 60 percent, you might be a socialist and a liar, too.

If you think denying an American a job, government contract or entry to college because of the color of his skin is immoral and criminal but that giving someone a job, government contract or college admission because of the different color of his skin is “social justice,” you might be a socialist — and a racist, too.

If you want to abandon capitalism and put the economy under the control of government bureaucrats even though virtually every city, county, State and Federal department run by these same bureaucrats is heavily in debt, you might be a socialist.

If you favor taxpayer bailouts of companies who give you campaign contributions and hand out almost $1 trillion in “stimulus” to unions and leading Democratic bundlers and contributors and hide it by refusing to disclose who got the money or how much, you might be a socialist — and a fascist, too.

If you think putting the same government that brought us Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service in charge of our healthcare will save us money, you might be a socialist.

If your solution to Medicare eating up almost the entire budget and driving the country into bankruptcy within 20 years is passing Obamacare so we can expand Medicare to everyone, you might be a socialist — and I’m betting you flunked out of public school math.

If you claim you can’t find anything to cut in your budget yet you just gave $1 billion dollars to the radical, American-hating, Muslim Brotherhood leadership of Egypt, you might be a socialist.

If you want to take guns away from law-abiding Americans because a mentally ill nutcase went on a killing rampage at a school designated as a “gun-free zone” (which advertised to that same nutcase that he would face absolutely no opposition because everyone inside was a helpless, defenseless sitting duck), you might be a socialist.

If you blame guns for killing children in Newtown, Conn., but it doesn’t occur to you that you sold guns to Mexican drug lords in the “Fast and Furious” scandal that resulted in 300 murders, including a U.S. border agent, you might be a socialist – and a fraud, too.

If want to lower the cost of healthcare but purposely left “tort reform” out of your signature healthcare reform because you, your wife and virtually every member of your Administration are lawyers, you might be a socialist lawyer.

If you think Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar of ABC’s “The View” represent the moderate wing of the Democratic Party, you might be a socialist.

If you’re a Columbia University professor and you ever gave a student named Barack Obama an “A” in economics, you might be a socialist — and you shouldn’t be teaching economics.

And finally, in the 8th year of the Obama Presidency, if Bangladesh is hosting “Aid America” concerts, we definitely have a socialist President.

Ladies and gentlemen, I think it’s safe to say America now has a socialist President.

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you next week. Same time, same place. God Bless America. We are going to need it!

Wayne Allyn Root

(W.A.R.) is a former Presidential candidate, the 2008 Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a Libertarian-conservative national media star. His new book, “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide” is a #1 national best-seller in bookstores, as well as an Amazon #1 Finance and Conservative bestseller. A former CNBC anchorman and host (then known as Financial News Network), Root is the ultimate Capitalist Evangelist: a blue-collar S.O.B. (son of a butcher) turned CEO, small businessman, serial entrepreneur, business speaker, and TV/radio commentator on the topics of business, economics, entrepreneurship, and politics. Root is a regular guest on Fox News, as well as on hundreds of conservative talk radio shows across the United States. His opinions reach tens of millions of Americans as a regular columnist and commentator for many of the most popular political and business websites, including FoxNews.com. He also writes regularly for The Washington Times. He is the bestselling author of eight books. Root serves as national spokesman for several companies, as well as a Senior Economic Advisor. Root is also well known in the television and media industries. He has hosted, starred and produced many television shows. Today, he is a producer of the highest-rated television show on Travel Channel. Because of his success in the diverse fields of business, media, sports, entertainment and publishing, Root was awarded his own 180-pound granite star in the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. Only 60 legends in the history of Las Vegas have received a star on Las Vegas Boulevard. A native New Yorker and graduate of prestigious Columbia University, this Capitalist Evangelist proudly resides in Nevada, a state with no income tax. His website is ROOTforAmerica.com.

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  • Jeremy Leochner

    If you believe Americans are not going to face $100 trillion in debt, hyperinflation, 80 percent tax rates and no jobs as a result of Obama alone you might be a socialist.

    If you think America should make use of reformed and regulated government, regulated but still existing unions, moderate taxes, lowered spending and true social justice you might be a socialist.

    If you believe that a government is different from a business and that thinking that does not make you a communist you might be a socialist.

    If you believe the government and IRS need to be reformed and cleaned of corruption rather than be gutted and gotten rid of you might be a socialist.

    If you believe food stamps and disability can help people despite Craig T Nelsons cognitive dissonance you might be a socialist.

    If you think it odd that tax money is only called stolen when its used for something the accuser does not like you might be a socialist.

    If you believe that Obama never said “You didn’t build that” and that his comments were badly taken out of context because they were. And if you believe that regardless of where the money came from the government not big business was still what paid for and created roads and bridges and that the private sector would not have created them on their own you might be a socialist.

    If you believe the Presidents rules, regulations and demonizations are directed at the wall street type big corporations whose wrong doing caused the recession you might be a socialist.

    If you think giving illegal immigrants a choice between deportation and getting in the back of the line to get proper papers is not the same as instant citizenship you might be a socialist.

    If you think its terrible that college students have to pay so many bills. And that you would like to see some evidence that colleges are so strongly liberal you might be a socialist.

    If you don’t read the new york times, don’t consider those who do not read it dumb and ignorant and also think its wrong that congress would do such a thing but you do not agree entirely with Mr. Root you might be a socialist.

    If you think there is nothing wrong with Paul Krugman winning a Nobel prize that was not in the categories of peace or job creating you might be a socialist.

    If you think the President has tried several times to meet with Republican leaders in Congress just because he has you might be a socialist.

    If you think we should stick to our principles in every circumstance and that the only reason the government took over GM and Chrysler was that the private sector refused too you might be a socialist.

    If you also think its wrong to give union workers their pensions but disregard non union workers but you disagree with Mr. Root on some of these other points you might be a socialist.

    If you think the debt is the main factor in the fiscal cliff and that spending cuts and revenue increases are the main issue you might be a socialist.

    If you think America is slightly different from a country in which the people have no freedom of expression and that America should not be taking cues from a communist country you might be a socialist.

    If you think Obamacare had less to do with Nancy Pelosi and more to do with the tens of millions of Americans who have no health insurance you might be a socialist.

    If you think there is some logic in the idea of converting from a finite energy source into a renewable one and that the production needed to allow every American to make use of such a resource might create jobs if done differently than Spain you might be a socialist.

    If you think Affirmative Action is well meaning but can be overzealous and patronizing but you disagree with Mr. Root on some of these points you might be a socialist.

    If you do not want to abandon capitalism but also do not want to give people like the wall street goons who started the recession free reign by deregulating too much you might be a socialist.

    If you oppose pork barrel spending and Citizens United but you disagree with Mr. Root on some of these other points you might be a socialist.

    If you think the same government that provides first class healthcare to the armed forces, not to mention running and managing an armed force second to none, is a better option than private sector bureaucrats who can decide whether or not to cover you based on pre existing conditions and who are not beholden to the voters you might be a socialist.

    If you think we should reduce foreign aid but you disagree with Mr. Root on some of these other points you might be a socialist.

    If you do not want to take away peoples weapons and believe gun free zones are good because they discourage children from bringing guns to school you might be a socialist.

    If you think the shooter killed the innocents in Newtown but that guns made it a lot easier and you also think Fast and Furious was an idiotic, incompetent and immoral policy you might be a socialist.

    Finally if you believe it is incredibly hypocritical and disingenuous for Mr. Root to decry the movement of our country towards socialism and to cry SOCIALIST on anyone who disagrees with him whilst never providing the dictionary definition of socialism or how any of the ideas he mentions conform to socialism you might be a socialist.

    And if you believe America does not fit the definition of socialism, since private property still exists, the means of production are still owned by the private sector and considering America has had its current economic system for at least 100 years its hard to consider the phase America is in to be transitional,you are most definitely a socialist.

    • Warrior

      Don’t be embarrassed by your believes. Go back and tell your handlers, it’s time we come clean. Tell em. You all will feel better about yourselves.

      • Robert Smith

        “I mean educated… in public schools by socialist teachers’ union members.”

        Careful Wayne. These are the same folks the NRA wants to give guns to.

        BTW, I’d trusted my kids with public school. The option of sending them in for religious indoctrination filling their heads with lies and supersticion just didn’t sit right with me.

        Rob

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Robert Smith, you chose your life so why do you come on this site complaining about your life. We don’t want to hear that you are not happy. Bud, you chose your own unhappiness and don’t inflict it on us.

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “Careful Wayne. These are the same folks the NRA wants to give guns to”.
        That’s true, Robert, but unlike Liberal Progressives we believe this is a Nation of Laws, Not a Nation of Men:
        http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/10/nation_of_men_not_of_laws.html

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “BTW, I’d trusted my kids with public school. The option of sending them in for religious indoctrination filling their heads with lies and supersticion just didn’t sit right with me”.
        Understandable, but then why did you send them to schools that filled “their heads with lies and supersticion”, Robert?
        Here’s just one of many examples:
        Honest Abe? Hardly:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

      • Old Henry

        Robert, they are being indoctrinated with religion. It is called Secular Humanism.

      • Robert Smith

        “Secular Humanism”

        And what’s bad about that?

        Oh! I’ll answer…

        It isn’t YOUR brutal god that destroyed the entire population except Noah and his kin.

        Knocked up a virgin to have his kid tortured… Or was that himself? I can’t keep that trinity thing straight.

        Rob

      • John

        Believes ?? Beliefs.

      • eddie47d

        Nadzieja: Then why do you continue with your negative and unhappy feelings about everything?

      • http://Yahoo.com Bill

        Mr Smith – why are you assuming that if you don’t send your kids to public school, then tou’re sending them to a religious school. There are quite a few private schools that are not religious and not the indoctrination of the left.

      • JeffH

        eddie, why do you post daily comments here that show just how ignorant and stupid you are without being embarrased?

        Oh, that’s right…you are a socialist!(ignorant progressive)

      • GALT

        More “mythology” from DavidH…….so let us redirect the poor delusional childe.

        We are a nation of laws MADE by men, corrupted by other men, to secure the advantage
        of those who broke the laws in the first place. ( to continue their quest for further and pointless acquisition to the detriment of everyone else. )

        It is truly fascinating to see the mentally deficient victims championing the source of
        their oppression, simply because they have managed to ( or have been allowed to )
        retain a few baubles and have not been reduced to the state of the other victims,
        for whom they have no compassion, because they believe their condition has
        been self inflicted, while their own (temporary) escape, is due to their own efforts,
        virtue and skill…….and of course the “victims” of this “corruption” can not be “victims”,
        since this would imply that “serendipity” and not “intelligence” ( and they are NOT
        intelligent ) is the cause of their temporary reprieve, so they must, by necessity be
        PARASITES and deserving of their fate………

        If you find this level of this stupidity incredible, imagine the poor white trash down south
        who could revel in their condition by simply consoling themselves with the observation
        that they weren’t BLACK.

        a brief excerpt from the book Econned.

        “In 1776, Adam Smith published The Wealth fof Nations. In it he argued that the uncoordinated actions of large numbers of individuals, each acting out of self interest, sometimes produced , as if by “an invisible hand,”results that were beneficial to broader society. Smith also pointed out that self interested actions frequently led to injustice or even ruin. He fiercely criticized both how employers colluded with each other to keep wages low, as well as the ” savage injustice ” that European mercantilist interests had “commited with impunity” in colonies in Asia and the Americas.

        Smith’s ideas were cherry picked and turned into a simplistic ideology that now dominates university economics departments. This theory proclaims that the “invisible hand” ensures that economic interest will always lead to the best outcomes imaginable. It follows that any restrictions on the profit seeking activities of individuals and corporations interfer with this invisible hand, and therefor are “inefficient” and nonsensical.

        According to this line of thinking, individuals have perfect knowledge both of what they want and everything happening in the world at large,and so they pass there lives making intelligent decisions. Prices may change in ways that appear random, but this randomness follows predictable and unchanging rules and is never violently chaotic. It is therefore possible for corporations to use clever techniques to reduce and even eliminate the risks associated with their business. The result is a stable productive economy that represents the apex of civilization.

        This heartwarming picture airbrushes out nearly all of the real business world.”

        For DavidH, the solution IS “unregulated, free market capitalism with voluntary transactions” which is what caused the crash of 1929 and 2007, but for DavidH
        this is NOT SO………this is “crony capitalism”……..

        So capitalism = crony capitalism = crash

        After 1929, the crony capitalists, having wrought the conditions and the results,
        needed to distract the “victims” from associating the results with the cause, and
        the means of this ‘distraction” was………..wait for it……..the THREAT of
        socialism/communism.

        DavidH not to be outdone, had combined THIS with the “progressive movement” which
        was the threat to the “crony capitalists” prior to 1917, and has added the word “liberal”,
        which used to mean “von mises”, but has also been altered……..

        and then, he hides behind the words………since there is no way to “reconcile” any
        of this into anything “intelligent” in terms of logical reasoning……..if he is required to
        define the words………and then argue their logical implications……

        You have to admire the resilience of the “poor white trash”……….until the KNOCK
        ( figuratively ) comes………..

        “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!” ( and then HANG separately.)

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: It isn’t YOUR brutal god that destroyed the entire population except Noah and his kin. Knocked up a virgin to have his kid tortured… Or was that himself? I can’t keep that trinity thing straight.

        You can’t keep anything straight, Robert. Why would you saddle yourself with the enormous task of trying to explain the “Trinity”?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I have no handlers Warrior. I am an individual who thinks and believes as he wishes.

      • DaveH

        Childe? Is English your second language, Galt?

        Galt says — “For DavidH, the solution IS “unregulated, free market capitalism with voluntary transactions” which is what caused the crash of 1929 and 2007″.

        How ignorant can one Socialist get?
        The “crash” was caused by Malinvestment which was in turn caused by a large increase in the money supply during the 20s by the newly created Federal Reserve system. Kind of like giving your “childe” money for nothing, which they soon waste on toys that break within a week.
        And then the “crash” was turned into the Great Depression by the meddlesome Herbert Hoover who instituted many of the same interventionist regulations and other market interventions that are employed by Socialists today. Those who want to learn some reality instead of listening to the disjointed garble that comes from Liberal Progressive Socialists like Galt’s mouths can read this book:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Americas%20Great%20Depression.pdf

        Start at Part II if you want to avoid some intense economic jargon.

      • DaveH

        No, Jeremy, you are a shill, and probably the same shill who calls himself Flashman.
        I have evidenced that here:
        http://personalliberty.com/2012/12/28/should-we-arm-our-teachers/#comment-797175

      • DaveH

        Explain to the readers, Galt, why your Socialism always fails when fully implemented?
        And please, try to speak good English, rather than your usual Pigeon English.

        Also, explain to the readers why the countries at the top of this ranking (those with the most Capitalism) have much better economies than those at the bottom (those with the most Socialism):
        http://heritage.org/index/ranking

      • http://comcast the fisherman

        Coming clean that is a good word for congress. Do you think depriving money for the damage from sandy that congress refuse to give and now they are thinking other wise .are they a socialist or a—holes

      • Kate8

        I’ve posted this video for you Leftists several times, and you obviously didn’t watch it. It is what happens under socialism…where it always leads. This is the history of Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and the Russian Revolution. Yes, it’s subtitles, because it’s told by those who’ve lived through it, or whose families did, and the memories are forever fresh for them (at least until the later generations take control).

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WcAPJ-kn8Vs

        Go ahead. Dare to view this to the end. And then come back and say you support socialism. You will be looking into our (all to immediate) future.

        It is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing.

      • Robert Smith

        From Kate8 who I’ve commented on this before to: “And then come back and say you support socialism. ”

        Most Americans don’t support “socialism” as you seem to both portray socialism and those of us Americans who don’t agree with you.

        For example UTILITIES: Utilities used to be among the most regulated of capitalistic businesses. It was always a safe investment and it served both investors and customers as expected. Under DEREGULATION we are paying much more for utilities and the service isn’t as good. Investors, thanks to things like Enron, have been ripped off big time. Yet to suggest regulating utilities again the term “socialist” is screamed.

        Medical care in America is ranked below all the other industrialized countries that have graduated to single payer “socialist” medicine. There care is better and it costs way less by any measure. One can still buy one’s way to the head of any lines, and doctors are free to open their own businesses. The lies (can’t choose your own doctor for example… ROFL Today they have to be “in plan” or one is out of luck) continue about the current status of medical care in America while people die.

        Our airports, train stations, and interstate highways are taken care of by the people, NOT buy the top 1% who are looting the rest of America. I imagine you call that socialism.

        Public education is what keeps an excellent pool of workers ready to serve who don’t have to be trained from zero. I know some squawk that they don’t like they way they can’t prey on the school kids with their religion, but tough cookies, American public schools are for all kids.

        So, America needs some forms of cooperative economics (what extremists call “socialism”) to compete in the world economy.

        Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        It seems only socialist don’t know they are socialist, they are Gods joke on the earth. A bunch of feel good brain lacking idiots.

      • GALT

        Sorry childe, what is the colour of your leverage…….

        As has already been explained to you, DavidH. the source of this leverage was provided by Wall St……….this was called “margin trading”……in 1929

        For 2007, Wall St. did this again…..these were called “derivatives”…….

        No regulations existed for either………non existent in 1929, and removed for 2007.

        See “Lords of Finance” again or post “von mises” link that refutes the “pulitzer prize”
        winning history……….

        Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
        The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
        And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
        Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
        5 Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
        Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
        The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
        Hath in the Ram his halfe cours yronne,
        And smale foweles maken melodye,
        10 That slepen al the nyght with open eye-
        (So priketh hem Nature in hir corages);
        Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages
        And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes
        To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
        15 And specially from every shires ende
        Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
        The hooly blisful martir for to seke
        That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seeke.
        Bifil that in that seson, on a day,
        20 In Southwerk at the Tabard as I lay
        Redy to wenden on my pilgrymage
        To Caunterbury with ful devout corage,
        At nyght was come into that hostelrye
        Wel nyne and twenty in a compaignye

        How many times DavidH will you continue to “repeat” the LIE????????

      • GALT

        Once again DavidH…….

        Economics is Invalid!!!!!!!!!!

        This means NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!

        See Economics Unmasked, Debt;The First 5000 Years, Econned, Extreme Money,
        Power, Inc. The Great Divergence…….

        When you are no longer a “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate”, get back to me.

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “For example UTILITIES: Utilities used to be among the most regulated of capitalistic businesses. It was always a safe investment and it served both investors and customers as expected. Under DEREGULATION we are paying much more for utilities and the service isn’t as good. Investors, thanks to things like Enron, have been ripped off big time. Yet to suggest regulating utilities again the term “socialist” is screamed”.

        Please give us a reference, Robert, that supports your “deregulated” utilities conjecture.
        Do you know the difference between “deregulated” and “different regulations”? Apparently not.
        I love how you Liberal Progressives support scads of regulations and then, when the economy suffers as a result, you blame it on Capitalism. It must be nice to not have any conscience about your economic dishonesty.

        Enron occurred in spite of regulations, not because of your conjectural “deregulation”, Robert.
        http://mises.org/daily/872

      • DaveH

        Galt, perhaps instead of babbling like an old fool, you could reveal to the readers where and how I lied?
        You make no sense, which is why I rarely bother to respond to your nonsense. Even the ignorant people who might buy into your failed Socialism wouldn’t be able to understand your Pigeon English enough to be influenced by it.

      • Robert Smith

        Can’t help but wonder if there is a relationship: ”
        Pilot in Mystery Flight Case Gets Prison Term

        August 30, 1992 | Associated Press

        A lawyer-pilot who survived a mysterious solo flight and crash into the Atlantic Ocean was sentenced on fraud and conspiracy charges in a radio-licensing scam. Thomas Root, 39, was sentenced Friday to 15 years in prison and fined $5,000 for his part in helping bilk thousands of investors who bought FM radio partnerships sold by Sonrise Management of Columbus, Ga. ”

        Rob

      • GALT

        I’d be happy to DavidH….anything for the “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate”…..

        GALT says:
        January 3, 2013 at 4:09 pm
        Sorry childe, what is the colour of your leverage…….

        As has already been explained to you, DavidH. the source of this leverage was provided by Wall St……….this was called “margin trading”……in 1929

        For 2007, Wall St. did this again…..these were called “derivatives”…….

        No regulations existed for either………non existent in 1929, and removed for 2007.

        See “Lords of Finance” again or post “von mises” link that refutes the “pulitzer prize”
        winning history……….

        You will note the use of the word “again”….as in so many times now, you are either the
        “stupidest person” on this site…..or you have the most severe case of “alzheimers”
        in recorded history……..actually since I just repeated myself…….in a post which occured
        three posts before your question……..of course maybe you didn’t say this?

        “The “crash” was caused by Malinvestment which was in turn caused by a large increase in the money supply during the 20s by the newly created Federal Reserve system. ”

        One could buy stock on margin for 10% down……..90% would seem to be
        quite a deal of “money” created ( as credit )……and the Fed had nothing to do with it.”

        The entire “sub prime” mortgage market was valued at 1.5 trillion dollars,
        the derivatives that were created from this market, 10′s of trillions, and the Fed
        had nothing to do with that either……..

        and all this has been repeated many times…….so I suggest that you seek immediate
        medical attention………just to be on the safe side…….( unfortunately, terminal stupidity
        is not treatable……sorry. )

      • http://www.facebook.com/musolini696 Juan Ganem

        THE U.S. IS REAL BIG TROUBLE… but the real Word is hopelessness… this crazy black UNAMERICAN COMMUNIST PRESIDENT´S agenda is to break the american way of life any capitalist system.. HE´S A COMMUNIST and wants to avenge against all who have put down his kind in the world.. THE MAN IS SICK AND HAS TO BE IMPEACHED INMEDIATELY… GOD HELP US IF NOT

      • APN

        Socialist puke smith said: “Our airports, train stations, and interstate highways are taken care of by the people, NOT buy the top 1% who are looting the rest of America. I imagine you call that socialism.”

        Obviously you were educated in our “public” school system Roberto. It seems you missed out on the 3-R’s. Smoking dope instead of paying attention while in “School” lends itself to future foolishness, as in your demonstrated case.

        I wouldn’t want to be you buddy when you punch out of here. Your arrogance will be tested, as well as, the words that you “Spew” out of your socialist fate filled mouth.

    • Bob Bo

      I love reading this claptrap, it’s more fun than the funny papers!

      • Concerned Montanan

        LOL with Bob Bo. I waste a while reading this “crap.” then stop and pray for our country!

    • Bill

      And if you reply to this libertarian site with a bunch of socialist crap, calling us right wing, rascists and extremists, then YOU are a socialist

      • eddie47d

        Because so many commenter’s are extreme right wingers and occasionally racists.They are easy to point out and do much damage to Conservative credibility.. I’m never quite sure why the true Conservatives allow them to stoke the fires and then claim they are being fair and balanced in reporting.

      • Maryland Freestater

        Or an a$$hole!

        • http://www.octavioesquivel.blogspot.com octavio y cely esquivel

          I am sorry if your stand is only think and say according to my views, other wise you are what i say it is imposible to analize any thing with raesonable dynamicas of objectivity and logic. I resoect your opinion as a person you are but cant agre with the absurd in logic…..Sorry!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Eddie: Because so many commenter’s are extreme left-wingers and occasionally racists.They are easy to point out and do much damage to Liberal credibility.. I’m never quite sure why the true Liberals allow them to stoke the fires and then claim they are being fair and balanced in reporting.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        It is wrong to call people you disagree with names or to generalize about a certain ideology. Which is why it is so strange that Mr. Root does both.

      • Kate8

        What’s the matter, Jeremy? You are just mad because the Right is dealing back to you what Leftists have been doing all along.

        You Leftists see conservatives as “extreme right” because you are so far to the Left that you might fall off. It’s really a glaring example of common sense vs serious mental impairment.

      • Robert Smith

        What’s so “far left” understanding that it is my taxes that also go into roads and it wasn’t the top 1% who built them?

        What’s so “far left” about recognizing that the current health care system is bankrupting Americans faster than anything else?

        Check out: “Medical Expenses (42%)
        Recent studies have shown that 42% of all personal bankruptcies are a result of medical expenses. The study also reveals that 78% of those who filed had insurance.” That’s from: http://www.clearbankruptcy.com/financial-literacy/10-leading-causes-of-bankruptcy.aspx

        What’s so “extreme” about recognizing that most other industrialized countries have cheaper health care per citizen than America? It’s a simple fact, not extremist.

        Rob

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Actually Kate I do not see conservatives as “far right”. I have never called people names just because I disagree with them. Being on the left or right has nothing to do with ones personality. If a person is a jerk they are a jerk. It does not matter what political ideology they are. I assume you are conservative or are from “the right” Kate. But I know little of your personal beliefs so I will not judge you. I tend to be on “the left”. But please do not judge me on a label. I have some conservative views and some libertarian ones. Being of a particular ideology or having a particular label does not define you. And therefore it should not be a determining factor in how you define other people.

      • Kate8

        Okay, Jeremy. Fair enough.

        Actually, I see no reason for rudeness, either. I suppose it’s borne out of frustration from trying to talk apples and oranges, for it seems that right and left have such completely differing ways of looking at things that ne’er the ‘twain shall meet.

        Too bad. It was intended by the elite to create such a situation so that people would be so divided that coming together with enough strength to break free from them is near impossible. We’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker…

        Should the day come when we are hit with an EMP or some other catastrophe, perhaps some of these ideological differences won’t seem so important, and we will be forced to either assist and support one another or perish.

        We’ll see.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Understandable Kate. I hope we can do it before the event you described. Maybe this a way to start. We can have debates like this and see what our beliefs are and compare. I am sure we have ideas and beliefs in common.

    • speak truth

      You gotta be a low level, low education person to believe this rat trap. This was written by a feuding fascist, who wants all america carrying guns, the social safety net destroyed and america to become a 3rd world country, so the 2% can get richer and richer. Wayne label yourself a total fascist..look up that word.

      • Bill

        America has already become a third world country. Just go to Detroit.

        Try to get a building permit to build your little dream house in the country and you will see a good example of third world goverment workers in action

      • eddie47d

        Throughout history there have been great civilizations and cities. The USA is a huge country and Detroit doesn’t represent the whole nation. We are not a 3rd world country so come out to Denver and see for yourself that a city can function and do well. (yes we have problems too). Our Congressional District is Democrat and so is our Mayor so this crap that Democrats want all these terrible things in life is absurd.

      • Walter & Renee Agard

        HI bill, I dont have to tell you why America looks like a third world country and who causes that to happen, also no one can fix these problems we are having in 4 years it may fix to a certain % but not 100% and you know it.Even if Romney could’nt fix it. no one con cause a mericle for that. Again we should help to chip in and get us back to some degree.A house against ti self cannot stand. LINCOLN quote from the bible.

      • Average Joe

        eddie47d,

        “so come out to Denver and see for yourself that a city can function and do well. (yes we have problems too). ”

        Thank you for explaining why you think or don’t think ( as the case seems to be)…mile high city…lack of oxygen to the brain…now I understand how you aquired your special brand of stupid…. Thanks for clearing that up for us!

        AJ

      • Maryland Freestater

        speak truth said: January 3, 2013 at 8:55 am

        You gotta be a low level, low education person to believe this rat trap. This was written by a feuding fascist, who wants all america carrying guns, the social safety net destroyed and america to become a 3rd world country, so the 2% can get richer and richer. Wayne label yourself a total fascist..look up that word.

        Your argument is nonsensical, Veritas. And you should share your musings with MoveOn or HuffyPo, ‘cos I sure as hell am NOT interested in what leftists believe and I’d rather NOT read trolling baiters here.

        Lefturds have ruined this country a LOT more than rightists, who at least have enough sense to know when to stop (sometimes). Leftists want to control one’s mind and wallet, whereas rightwingers at least toggle in this respect.

        • http://www.octavioesquivel.blogspot.com octavio y cely esquivel

          I am nor calling you any names and i would prefer if you do not thar either to me…I do know what caliver of education tou are talking about. I think that i am a human being and an american citizen and the nation gives me the right to express my opinion making sense to me in an open view instea of expecting you to agree with my view or somthine else. I love the freedom of expresion and belives honor so highgly in america!

      • JeffH

        Ron White said it best…You can’t fix stupid(progressives/socialists)!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • r.p.

        @ Average Joe:
        eddie47 is not a native of Colorado. His thinking was affected by the smog of L.A. He moved out here when California began to implode. He still thinks like a Californian though, as most of them feel if they’ve been here for more than two weeks, they are natives

      • Kate8

        r.p. LOL. No one wants to admit they’re from California.

        BTW, I’ve lived in CA all my life, and I love my state dearly. However, I loathe the politics, and find it heartbreaking what the liberals have done to us. Believe it or not, there was a time when we were very conservative, until liberals flooded in and opened the doors to unrestricted immigration (both legal and illegal). Now you’d never guess you were even in America in most cities. At least, not the America we loved.

        I love my home and have no desire to relocate. Besides, unless patriots are able to right this ship, what happens here will overtake the entire country soon. It already is.

      • Robert Smith

        Wrong again Kate: “Believe it or not, there was a time when we were very conservative, until liberals flooded in and opened the doors to unrestricted immigration (both legal and illegal).”

        Immigration is controlled on a Federal level. Remember, that’s what all the lawsuits you are so proud of are about.

        BTW, nice gratuitous slam against immigrants. Shows just how “christian” you are with newcomers. Care to review the story of Sodom…

        Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        speak truth? That is a commie joke right? People with guns made this nation great and many died to make it great so that idiots who sit on their brains and do nothing can get a hand out from a government that is making them slaves. Welcome to your own plantation anything but, the truth. Grow up, get up, get a real job you free loading panty waste.

      • Kate8

        Bob – You don’t know what you are talking about.

        At the federal level, it began under LBJ. A democrat. And some states pander to immigrants and some don’t.

        California was beautiful and prosperous under conservatism. Liberals have turned us upside down, with many once beautiful neighborhoods evacuated by Americans as they’ve been overcome by third-world immigration and turned into dangerous ghettos. And not to mention the complete eradication of any kind of morality, and the utter economic ruin brought on by ridiculous spending and too-high taxes which have attracted mobs of welfare recipients while driving away business and jobs.

        You can lose the Christian slams, too. I, for one, have had it with your nasty and derogatory remarks. You are clueless there, too.

        No matter what reason posters have used in response to your rants an tirades, you ignore them, continuing with your canned leftist mantras.

        You, my dear, are a pathetic joke. You are a caricature of a progressive idiot. You have the meanest and nastiest attitude toward those with whom you disagree of nearly anyone here.

        I hope you are proud of yourself. At least you have a job, I suppose. Even if it is selling out your country.

        Actually, I hope you wake up one day. But I’m not making any bets on it.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashman) says — “If you believe Americans are not going to face $100 trillion in debt, hyperinflation, 80 percent tax rates and no jobs as a result of Obama alone you might be a socialist”.
      Ignorant maybe, but not necessarily Socialist.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Really Dave. So I am ignorant to believe that Obama all by himself is not going to create our debt or our economic problems. We have had a few other Presidents you know.

      • DaveH

        Apparently so, Jeremy (aka Flashman).
        If you read my comment carefully you will discover that I wasn’t referring to you rather to the people who would believe Obama did it alone.

        But upon re-reading your original comment, I see that you didn’t really say what you meant. Try making your sentences shorter and more coherent.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Indeed I did misread you Dave. I am sorry. I will correct myself. What I want to point out is this. Dave my comments were meant to show that I am not that unreasonable in my beliefs. Yet because I differ from Mr. Root apparently I am a socialist. Mr. Root directed his comments against Obama. Those terrible economic outcomes he described he directed against Obama. So it appears that Mr. Root gives all the blame to Obama. So if your comment “Ignorant maybe, but not necessarily Socialist” was directed towards those who blame Obama alone I think you just called Mr. Root- ignorant maybe.

      • DaveH

        You are a Socialist, Jeremy (aka Flashman) because you support Socialistic agendas, not because you disagree with WAR.
        To Socialize, make Social, as in making people pay for things they don’t want, or making people pay for other peoples’ mistakes.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        So its socialism if someone has to pay for something they do not like. Problem is that’s not what socialism is. You cannot denounce something as socialism just because you do not like it. You can oppose it and seek to have it stopped. But calling it something it is not is wrong.

    • DaveH

      2 AM, Jeremy (aka Flashman)?
      Wow, the Boiler Room must have been stirred up by that one.

      http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826545/pg1&addstar=1&on=13829871#pid13829871

      • JeffH

        Is the 23 y/o innocent Loecher shedding his skin or is the Flashmann starting to show thru?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        No Dave. Mr. Root was having fun throwing around the term socialist. I was just using his form of delivery to challenge his ideas about socialism. I was trying to point that Mr. Root seemed to generalizing about those he disagrees with.

      • DaveH

        You have how many 2 year degrees, Jeremy, yet you still can’t read?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        No I can read Dave. You posted a video about internet shills. I was pointing out that I came on here to make a statement. I was trying to point out I am not an internet shill. Perhaps I am assuming what you were trying to say to me. I just could think of no other reason why you would post such a video.

      • DaveH

        Poor, innocent, dishonest Jeremy (aka Flashman).
        For those who don’t know, go here:
        http://personalliberty.com/2011/05/16/what-now/#comment-341969

      • DaveH

        And then here:
        http://personalliberty.com/2012/12/28/should-we-arm-our-teachers/#comment-797175

        You’re pitiful Jeremy (aka Flashman).

      • Kate8

        That link is a real doozy, DaveH. Great find.

        Everyone needs to read this. It explains eddie, flush, Robert Smith and most of the others, including Karolyn, who attempts to befriend rather than smear most of the time. But that is just another of their tactics.

        As the article states, these shills don’t really know much about any of the things they post about. They are just following a formula. It’s easy to push ideas you don’t even care about anyway, so being absurd is not a problem for them. And they seem to enjoy being [expletive deleted]

        I say we just call them all out. They’ve become really tiresome, and they aren’t even legitimate posters. There are some days when I see some of those names and I just don’t bother being here at all.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Dave once again you return to an accusation and declare it to be proof. I am not a shill. I do not come on here with others. I come on here to state my genuine opinions. I am not crying poor innocent me. I am simple pointing out I am innocent of what Mr. Livingston is accusing me of.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        DaveH provides us with a wonderful link, one that goes nicely with the “Manual for Trolls” that JeffH posted on another thread some weeks ago (and I have tried to repost that comment two or three times since but it keeps getting “moderated” into oblivion). Dare I try again? Perhaps I will post it separately if this comment is not “disappeared”.

        I recommend Dave’s link to all—-http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826545/pg1&addstar=1&on=13829871#pid1382987—-quite illuminating.

        Kate8 agrees wholeheartedly with me, because she says, “That link is a real doozy, DaveH. Great find. Everyone needs to read this. It explains eddie, flush, Robert Smith and most of the others, including Karolyn, who attempts to befriend rather than smear most of the time. But that is just another of their tactics”.

        “As the article states, these shills don’t really know much about any of the things they post about. They are just following a formula. It’s easy to push ideas you don’t even care about anyway, so being absurd is not a problem for them. And they seem to enjoy being [expletive deleted]”

        “I say we just call them all out. They’ve become really tiresome, and they aren’t even legitimate posters. There are some days when I see some of those names and I just don’t bother being here at all”

        My old school administrator’s “crap detectors” started to vibrate as I began to read the second paragraph of Kate’s little essay, and were buzzing madly by the time I finished it. Her third paragraph lit them up even more.

        One of the characteristics of a “right brain thinker” in the sense that I use the term is the ability to gather in large quantities of data and perceive connections and patterns within. The same kind of mental processing that made me good at doing master schedules for high schools—-taking the class requests of several thousand students and the preferences of a couple hundred teachers, and fitting them into a seven period day in a given number of rooms in the school. We had some help from computer programs in trying things out in what we called “simulated schedule runs”, but anyone who couldn’t visualize the “puzzle” in their head was on a long hard journey and likely to need outside assistance before they built a good schedule.

        Why do I bore you with all that, you ask? Because I am starting to firm up something that has been at the back of my consciousness for some time—-a pattern—a vision of Matryoshka or Babushka dolls—-those Russian nesting dolls. Combined with the fun house hall of mirrors where reflections bounce back on reflections.

        Whatever is he talking about?, you may ask. Go back and read Kate’s essay and ask yourself—-”Where better place for a bunch of shills/trolls to hide but in plain sight? What better way to throw off suspicion than to “spill the beans” about how they operate and tell everyone?”. And the REALLY clever thing is to do this while pretending that you’re talking ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE, as Kate has done.

        Well, Kate let ME call YOU out on this—-EVERYTHING you have said is far more descriptive of you, DaveH, JeffH, and the “new” WTS/JAY than it is of eddie, flash, robert, Karolyn, or “most of the others” (unspecified). Nice try, but you’ve convinced me that you, Dave, Jeff, and the “new” Jay are “coworkers” and draw paychecks signed by the same person, whoever that may be.

        DaveH also says, “Poor, innocent, dishonest Jeremy”, which makes my crap detectors tingle also. Jeremy appears to me to be dishonest only to himself, in that he puts up with all the crap he does in an attempt to “reason” with the “unreasonable”. He is certainly giving the impression of being “innocent”, and painfully so. Jeremy reinforces that impression by saying, “Dave once again you return to an accusation and declare it to be proof. I am not a shill. I do not come on here with others. I come on here to state my genuine opinions. I am not crying poor innocent me. I am simple pointing out I am innocent of what Mr. Livingston is accusing me of”.

        When I peer into the reflecting reflections of the dolls within dolls, I can even see Jeremy as part of the crew—-what better way to keep things stirred up than to have your own “lib-prog” whipping boy on board? I hope I haven’t hurt your feelings because it appears that I am accusing you, Jeremy, but you need to take the advice of an old man and think about your “place” on PLD and how it can be perceived.

        So, Kate, I agree wholeheartedly with you when you say, “I say we just call them all out. They’ve become really tiresome, and they aren’t even legitimate posters. There are some days when I see some of those names and I just don’t bother being here at all” That’s EXACTLY how I feel about your cronies, and you ARE becoming “really tiresome” to those of us who do NOT play games with the truth on this site as you do. (Although I will grant that this little trick you attempted WAS more clever than most of your attempts)

        I’m off to ingest some fetal-cell laced Pepsi and put a bag over my head so that I can get more of JAY’s good-for-you CO2— Later!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Right Brain thinker I appreciate your analysis. I assure you I am not part of any crew. I can’t really recall exactly how I first discovered Personal Liberty Digest. What I know is I saw an article that I felt the need to speak out on and I have come back ever since. Perhaps I do derive some pleasure out of standing out from the crowd. But I have no desire to disrupt or derail any discussion. If anything I want to contribute to a real discussion. Often the articles on this page seem to have a very absolutist tinge to them. Yet when I talk with people on this site including Mr. Livingston I am able to have serious discussions, not always but sometimes. That’s why I keep coming back.

        As for my feelings. This is not about my personal feelings. I have never liked gossip, slander or libel. I do not like the idea of people thinking the worst of me when its not true. There have been people on this site who I had productive discussions with. For instance Dave and I used to debate albeit rather aggressively. But then Dave came to believe that I was being deceptive and he forever after refused to acknowledge me for who I am. And several others have followed suit. Perhaps I do care about what others think too much. But I still feel that whats most important is an honest debate. I am certain that that is what people on this site want. We can’t have that if accusations start flying left and right without evidence to back them up. I understand this is a blog and a name and email address is not much to go on or trust. All I can do is offer my word. That’s because realistically there is no real way to prove who I am without giving away information that someone could use to steal my identity. Many here may think me an idiot but I am no bodies fool. This is my request. I believe that accusing me of not being honest about my intentions or who I am disrupts the discussions and debates far more than anything I have ever said. I ask that if someone wishes to accuse me of being part of some group or of coming on this site under multiple names that they provide some evidence apart from Mr. Livingstons accusation. And to Mr. Livingston I would like to ask that if he truly believes that I am not who I say I am that he provide evidence of it. Because I say what I have always said. I have never shared my computer nor have I ever come on this site under any name but my own. I know that to be true and I believe in it as much as I believe that the earth revolves around the sun and that what goes up must come down.

    • momo

      I love Christmas lights, they remind me of people who voted for Obama. They all hang together, half of them don’t work, and the ones that do aren’t all that bright.

      • 45caliber

        momo:

        I never thought of that one! Love it! LOL!

      • Robert Smith

        “I love Christmas lights,”

        Hung by those who cut down healthy trees to celebrate the commercialization of the birth of their savior, who they promptly eat (if one believes that transubstantiation thing).

        Cannibals, ritualistic or real, really do seem to be a bummer.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Those trees are grown for that purpose, Robert.
        Are you a vegetarian?

      • Old Henry

        That’s great momo. I wish I wold have had that one on Christmas when the house was full of relatives. LOL!

      • Old Henry

        Robert:

        We get our tree at a Christmas Tree FARM.

        What do farms grow? CROPS.

        What do you do with crops? HARVEST them.

        They also grow corn and soy beans – which they HARVEST.

      • http://www.get-free-stuff-online.com Steve H

        I will have to remember that one.

        Rob, just think of those trees as baby trees. I’m sure you are one of those folks that think it’s OK to kill babies, but never cut down a tree.

        You also seem to have a problem with people believing in a creator. I suppose it is more believable that once there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then the nothing exploded for no reason and created everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason into self replicating bits which then turned into monkeys which then turned into you. Yeah, that makes more sense.

      • Maryland Freestater

        @ Robert Smith said at January 3, 2013 at 9:48 am

        “I love Christmas lights,”

        Hung by those who cut down healthy trees to celebrate the commercialization of the birth of their savior, who they promptly eat (if one believes that transubstantiation thing).

        Cannibals, ritualistic or real, really do seem to be a bummer.

        Rob

        Sounds like you’re a ‘recovering Catholic’ to me, RS (or a fundamentalist bigot who calls Catholics ‘mackerel snappers). Shoulda followed MY lead and become a Lamaist Buddhist while in Catholic school.

        And speaking of transubstantiation, you forgot to mention wine – or have you been hittin’ the bottle with your parish priest?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: Hung by those who cut down healthy trees to celebrate the commercialization of the birth of their savior, who they promptly eat (if one believes that transubstantiation thing).

        Nonsense! Christmas, is “Pagan” holiday.

      • DaveH

        Good catch, Steve.
        I completely overlooked that blatant hypocrisy by the unborn-baby-killing Robert.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Yeah, good catch, Steve! Besides, what’s the big deal about a “tree”? It is nothing but so-much “pulp”.

      • Kate8

        JAY – Bingo!

      • Robert Smith

        Steve bleats: “You also seem to have a problem with people believing in a creator.”

        Nope. I even believe that you believe in a brutal god who had his own kid born to a virgin he knocked up to be tortured to death in his name.

        My vision is of kinder gods and goddesses. BTW, they are real because your god in his big ten commandments says none of the others should be above him. What an ego that brutal god seems to have!

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “My vision is of kinder gods and goddesses”.
        Vision maybe, but your application is one of stealing other peoples’ money and Forcing other people to do things your way using Big Government as your Bully Boys.
        The fact that you would put Trees above Human Beings underscores the sickness that inhabits that Liberal Progressive body of yours.

      • Kate8

        Robert – It doesn’t seem to me like you know much about kindness yourself.

        In fact, you are one of the most unkind posters who darken this site.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: Robert says — “My vision is of kinder gods and goddesses”.

        Robert, based on your speech and actions, it seems clear that you were created in the image of your “brutal goddess”!

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashman) says — “If you believe that a government is different from a business and that thinking that does not make you a communist you might be a socialist”.
      Yes, it’s different. Unlike Businesses, Government has been allowed the Power of Force. With that Power they establish regulations, subsidies, price controls, quotas, tariffs, embargoes, and other Protective measures to favor their Crony Capitalists over their Non-Political Competitors, their Consumers, and the Taxpayers.
      Those who want to get into the details should start by reading this book:
      http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1357226508&sr=8-6&keywords=the+big+ripoff+kindle

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashshill) says — “If you believe the government and IRS need to be reformed and cleaned of corruption rather than be gutted and gotten rid of you might be a socialist”.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0

      • Jeremy Leochner

        So by suggesting that we rein in and reform government, clean it up to clear out the incompetent and corrupt I might as well be singing Tiptoe Through the Tulips. Yet believing that the gutting of government offices and shrinking the government will automatically make everything better is perfectly pragmatic and reasonable. So if I got this straight- thinking better equals better makes me an idealistic fool but thinking smaller equals better makes me a pragmatic realist. Maybe there is something wrong with me cause it does not make sense to me.

      • DaveH

        I’ve been hearing that same lame “reform” nonsense from Liberal Progressives for 40 years now. And Government just keeps growing.
        No matter how much of other peoples’ money you throw at the problem, Jeremy (aka Flashman), it will still be throwing good money after bad, because Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Bad government is the problem. Liberal Progressives have been trying to reform government for years just as Libertarians have been trying to shrink government for years. We need to keep trying.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashman) says — “If you think it odd that tax money is only called stolen when its used for something the accuser does not like you might be a socialist”.
      If you think it’s odd that a Liberal Progressive Shill would know what we like or dislike, you must be a Liberal Progress Elitist who wants everybody to pay for his/her choices.

      • Robert Smith

        I didn’t “choose” the Bush wars.

        I didn’t choose to deny research for life saving stuff like stem cell research.

        I didn’t choose to fund TSA.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “I didn’t “choose” the Bush wars”.
        Neither did I, Robert. I also didn’t choose the Obama wars.

        Robert says — “I didn’t choose to deny research for life saving stuff like stem cell research”.
        But you did choose to fund those efforts with other peoples’ money if you voted for Big Government, Robert.

        Robert says — “I didn’t choose to fund TSA”.
        Then you know how it feels to be groped at your own expense whether you like it or not.

      • JUKEBOX

        If you think it’s better to sell your Current TV to a terrorist supporting organization instead of an American conservative organization, then you may be a Socialist ex-VP of the US.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: I didn’t “choose” the Bush wars.

        Bush didn’t either.

        Robert: I didn’t choose to deny research for life saving stuff like stem cell research.

        But you do support taking a life to prevent the death of another.

        Robert: I didn’t choose to fund TSA.

        “Serfs” don’t get to choose.

      • Kate8

        Robert – I guess we are to assume that you are also okay with ingesting fetal tissue in food and beverages, and being injected with fetal tissue in vaccines and such.

        You are a sick puppy, RS. But then, you are a masterful product of an indoctrinated, fallen society.

        I also assume that you are cool with being regarded as a “human resource”. That means, whatever your masters want from you, you are happy to go along with.

        Have you given any more thought to that population reduction thing?

      • Robert Smith

        What’s this new garbage you are tossing out Kate?

        Are you suggesting that “babies” are in consumables now?

        Rob

      • Kate8

        I can only conclude, Robert, that you live under a rock. You are incredibly uninformed about nearly everything.

        But then, ignorance is a great excuse for deniability.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: What’s this new garbage you are tossing out Kate? Are you suggesting that “babies” are consumable now?

        Yes Robert, that is exactly, what Kate8 is saying!

        Check out the link below.

        http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.ca/2012/03/avoid-using-products-containing-aborted.html

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Robert Smith says:

        “What’s this new garbage you are tossing out Kate?
        Are you suggesting that “babies” are in consumables now?”

        That was In response to what Kate8 said, “Robert – I guess we are to assume that you are also okay with ingesting fetal tissue in food and beverages, and being injected with fetal tissue in vaccines and such”.

        WTS/JAY says, “Yes Robert, that is exactly, what Kate8 is saying!” (and gives us a link to “truth”)

        Kate8 also says, “You are incredibly uninformed about nearly everything, (Robert). But then, ignorance is a great excuse for deniability.”

        Guess what, Robert? You need not worry about finding “babies” in your consumables or being “injected with fetal tissue” in vaccines AND SUCH (That’s a rather imprecise term in the science world, Kate. What are you talking about? Are you using it as in “Look out for the SUCH!—-It’s trying to steal Christmas”!?)

        Why not to worry, Robert? Because Kate8 and JAY are displaying THEIR abysmal ignorance here, and stating some real whoppers that they hope folks will swallow. Some scientific FACTS to help those who may have been disturbed by Kate8′s horsespucky.

        1) The HEK-293 strain mentioned in JAY’s link began FORTY+ YEARS ago and was harvested from an aborted fetus in Europe at that time. For the last FORTY+ YEARS it has been grown in a laboratory as a tissue culture. It is being utilized by a company developing a test to be for detecting certain chemicals that may be incorporated into soft drinks, and is NOT in any way ever going to show up in your Pepsi.

        2) There is NO fetal tissue in vaccines as Kate would have you believe.
        From the National Network for Immunization Information (NNii): Immunization Issues: Human Fetal Links with Some Vaccines Update from the Canadian Coalition for Immunization Awareness and Promotion (CCIAP). In answer to the question, “Do vaccines contain cells from aborted fetuses?”

        “No. Vaccines do not contain human cells or tissue. During purification of the vaccine all cells are removed. Human cell lines are used in the early stages of production of some vaccines because viruses need a living cell to grow. The virus for the vaccine is grown in a human cell line, then killed or damaged so it cannot cause disease. This cell line comes from legal abortions in the early 1960s and continues today from the original source. The abortions were not conducted for the purpose of vaccine discovery or vaccine production. No new fetal tissue is required in the ongoing production of vaccines because cell lines can reproduce themselves in culture and can be used for a very long time”.

        In other words, the vaccines are totally free of any fetal tissue when they are injected. So, Kate, are you going to deny that your ignorance has led you to tell a whopper?

        Even the Catholic Church doesn’t go near the foolishness that Kate and JAY have, focusing instead on the question of the MORALITY of whether something that utilized fetal tissue 40 or 50 years ago should be used or not, and comes down on the side of YES. The Vatican says that “In the absence of effective alternatives, individuals may use the morally tainted vaccines”, and asserts that it is necessary to “provide for the good of one’s children”, including the prevention of disease where possible. Being perhaps a little more science literate (and honest) than Kate8 and JAY, the Vatican does NOT try to fear-monger and suggest that anyone is “eating babies”.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashshill) says — “If you believe that Obama never said “You didn’t build that” and that his comments were badly taken out of context because they were. And if you believe that regardless of where the money came from the government not big business was still what paid for and created roads and bridges and that the private sector would not have created them on their own you might be a socialist”.

      If you believe that Obama never said “You didn’t build that” or that his comments were taken out of context, simply listen to his whole Commie speech:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzf4yjphgf8

      Government paid for the bridges and roads?
      Where did they get that money? It wouldn’t have been from those businesses and rich people who the Liberal Progressive Socialists think should be their cash cows, would it?
      I love how ignorant Liberal Progressives will talk about Government expenditures as if they are somehow spending their own money. We could only Hope and Dream!

      • eddie47d

        Dave H needs to take care of that head injury because I much rather drive on a safe bridge and a well paved road and am willing to pay for that safety. I bet Dave H does too but he won’t admit it. Dave H stretches his message out to the point of insanity for I know private businesses also want those good roads for their companies and are willing to pay for them. Oh yes those “ignorant” bussiness owners!

      • DaveH

        Leave it to the Troll to go off on a tangent with a non sequitur.

      • Robert Smith

        Leave it to the extreme right to go after the man rather than the issue.

        Rob

      • Jeremy Leochner

        The problem Dave is when he made his “You didn’t build that” comment he was not talking about business owners not building their business. That was the context that it was taken in. The Republicans made an entire night of their convention the “We built it” night and talked constantly about Obama being marxist and anti small business because he thought that business owners were not responsible for their own success. That if they have a business they did not build it. And yet that was no where near what Obama was talking about. He was talking about roads and bridges and how business did not build those. If the government had not taxed people and pushed for those roads and bridges to be built they would not have been built.

        And as for your idea of it being a commie speech. Since when did the idea that success can come from a jointed effort become communistic. Since when do you become a commie by mentioning the community or by talking about the country or by suggesting that we do good because we do things together. Mentioning and supporting jointed effort and praising the good that comes from working together is not an abandonment of the individual. It does not equal communism.

      • DaveH

        I realize you Liberal Progressives don’t like it when somebody brings a gun to your gunfights, Robert. But you’re just going to have to suck it up. If you (or Eddie in this case) insults me then I will treat you (or Eddie) just as disrespectfully.

      • DaveH

        And Robert, you keep referring to me as being extreme right. Could you please inform the readers what it is I say that you think puts me in that class?

      • DaveH

        Is it because I so often expose your comments for being the factually bereft and illogical nonsense that they are? Of course it is.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Ah! Jeremy and eddie! Have you no mercy? You have DaveH going into his “defensive mode” where he talks to himself and quick fires a string of inanities as a smoke screen while his feeble brain tries to engineer a significant answer. Leave him alone for a while.

        Knowing Dave, I am sure you will have many other opportunities to to point out his inadequacies to him.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        OOOOPS Left out Robert when I made my plea for mercy on Dave’s behalf. We (You) shouldn’t gang up on him—-he has enough difficulty dealing with one of us.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        DaveH, one week ago I got an e-mail from my son, which stated:

        Mom, I just received my tax return for 2011 back from the IRS.
        And I’m puzzled now!!!
        They are questioning IF I CLAIMED ALL dependents.
        So now I’m asking myself, WHO did I miss?

        To the question on my Tax Return form “List all dependents?” I listed:

        47 million people on food stamps;
        12 million illegal immigrants;
        3 million crack heads;
        2 million people in over 243 prisons;
        Half of Mexico;
        535 useless in the U.S. House and Senate;
        And 1 double illegal “president” aka CHARLATAN.

        I KEEP ASKING MYSELF, WHO DID I MISS?
        Mom, can you help me to answer the question?

        And I replied:
        Yes my son, I can. You missed the DEMONcrats/Libtards/Progressives/Communistic HOAX a.k.a. “paid shills” with very low IQ.

        I provide you with their names and you can add them to the list of “dependents” in your 1040 Tax form for 2012.

        Here you have their name:

        Jeremy aka Flashy; NC aka Nut Case; eddie47d(onkey) (who does not like to be a donkey in the face of his ridiculous stubbornness); Rich and others.

        DaveH, You are free to add to the list.

        Thanks and Happy New Year!

    • 45caliber

      Jeremy:

      How much are you being paid for this drivel? I’m sure there are a lot of unemployed people out there who would like a good paying, easy job. In fact, I might even be interested myself.

      • DaveH

        Just look up “Shill” in the Employment want ads.

      • JUKEBOX

        Most conservatives do this for free, while liberal progressives expect pay for any menial thing they do, or don’t do.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I wish I could be paid. Caliber. But no I honestly believe what I say. I want Americans to get jobs too.

      • DaveH

        Nobody is paying you to assume multiple personalities and spout illogical, unsupported, and conjectural comments, Jeremy (aka Flashman)?
        That must be some mighty powerful stuff you’re smoking.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I am not doing any of those things Dave. And I don’t smoke. Its bad for your health. Don’t drink either.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashman) says — “If you believe the Presidents rules, regulations and demonizations are directed at the wall street type big corporations whose wrong doing caused the recession you might be a socialist”.
      If you believe that Big Government didn’t create the Housing Boom and Bust, then you are not only a Socialist, you are just plain ignorant:
      http://www.amazon.com/dp/0465018807/?tag=mh0b-20&hvadid=1468865632&ref=pd_sl_926qn4u6ei_p

      • Bill

        DaveH
        And if you can’t see that the government is creating another bubble real estate market through their FHA financing and bank bailouts, then you are not only ignorant, you are stupid

      • DaveH

        Exactly Bill.

      • JeffH

        Bill :)…and a socialist!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        So Dave the wall street bankers had nothing to do with bundling sub prime mortgages and passing them around while betting that those worthless mortgages would fail. And I am sure they had nothing to do with pushing people to buy those mortgages. And I am sure they were completely innocent in telling major news networks that their business were doing fine so people would keep their stocks in. I apologize if I same insulting but its because it gets me angry. Because these wall street men were not honest private sector white collar workers. They were not engaging in free enterprise. And in the end their risky decisions did not hurt them. It hurt their workers and it hurt the country. I have no desire to hurt small business. But there is a need to have strong regulation on those handling the economy. At the very least the CEOS who caused this recession should have been thrown in jail instead of occasionally being brought before congress for some perfunctory scolding.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Jeremy: But there is a need to have strong regulation on those handling the economy. At the very least the CEOS who caused this recession should have been thrown in jail instead of occasionally being brought before congress for some perfunctory scolding.

        Perfunctory scolding? Jeremy, they were rewarded with a generous “bailout” at taxpayers expense! Now you are insisting the same Government be their over-seer and regulatory-body? Come on, Jeremy, you can’t be serious?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        With respect WTS/JAY it seems contradictory to denounce giving these guys tax payer funded bailouts and at the same time oppose the idea of regulating them so as to prevent them from getting into these situations in the first place. Its funny to me that when these large companies are in trouble suddenly they turn to uncle sam and demand support. But at the same time they demand there be no strings attached cause that could endanger their financial stability. The same financial stability they themselves ruined. What I am saying is its not okay for these corporations to expect to keep as much of their earnings as possible paying as little to the government as possible and then expect to have as much given to them as possible when they are struggling. If we have rules and regulations to control these business and since apparently corporations are people and we have rules to govern how people can act it stands to reason that these corporations will be more likely to act appropriately. If the heads of these companies get sent to jail instead of being given a golden parachute they might be less likely to steal millions or some times billions of dollars.

      • http://ournationsfuture.com Gloria Fay

        I have yet to see where anyone has pointed out that Acorn’s political power forced large banking institutions to start down the path of making all the bad loans that contributed to the collapse of the housing market. Maybe someday it will all come out.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Because Acorn had nothing to do with it. Unless of course Acorn held power during the bush administration when the mortgage crisis happened.

      • DaveH

        You’re either ignorant, Jeremy (aka Flashman), or you’re lying. Of course it’s most likely to be the latter given that you are assuming multiple personalities and lying about it:
        http://spectator.org/archives/2010/03/02/acorn-housing-boom

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Perhaps I am Dave. All I knew about Acorn was from that video the fake pimp showed. And I later learned that the video was heavily edited to make Acorn appear worse than it actually was. Still I believe that wall street had more to do with the mortgage crisis. Judging by your post I would say Acorn has more to do with corruption in government and crony capitalism which also needs to be curbed.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy (aka Flashshill) says — “If you do not want to abandon capitalism but also do not want to give people like the wall street goons who started the recession free reign by deregulating too much you might be a socialist”.
      If you believe regulations are mean to protect you from Wall Street, guess again. Can you say Crony Capitalists?
      If you don’t want to abandon Capitalism, then you are a sensible Socialist who knows that, without Capitalist shoulders to ride on, our economy would be the same dismal economy experienced by highly Socialist countries around the world. Even parasites know they can’t exist without their hosts.

      • eddie47d

        Dave H (and many others) will never admit he gives those crony capitalists free reign. They are the capitalist system as we know it and if you don’t like it but do nothing about it then you are just as guilty of allowing it to happen. Talk from both the left and right is dirt cheap and Dave H is no different.

      • JeffH

        If you are an ignorant progressive, make ignorant comments, lie, slander and talk out your arse and your name is eddie…you must be a socialist.

      • DaveH

        Eddie,
        Are you a proxy for everything ignorant about propagandized Liberal Progressives?
        Big Government supports Crony Capitalists with myriad protective devices including regulations, quotas, subsidies, price controls, tariffs, and many other mechanisms.
        Without that Big Government protection, they would have no choice other than to please the consumers in voluntary Market Transactions.
        I realize, Eddie, that ignoramuses like yourself might have trouble researching products before they buy them. But the average American has tools, never before available (on the Internet), to easily research products by reading the numerous reviews for almost anything we might want to buy. You have nobody but yourself to blame, Eddie, if you can’t take the time to avail yourself of them.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Dave are you against all regulations. I understand the issue of crony capitalism. But we need to counter act it. We cannot do that without regulations. Just as we have laws to fight bank robberies so we need laws to fight mortgage fraud.

      • DaveH

        Have you read the book — “The Big Ripoff: How Big Business and Big Government Steal your Money”, Jeremy (aka Flashman)?
        Of course you haven’t, because you’re not here to learn anything. You’re here to disrupt other people who do want to learn. For those people:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357258911&sr=8-1&keywords=the+big+ripoff

      • DaveH

        Jeremy says — “We cannot do that without regulations”.
        Sure we can, Jeremy (aka Flashman), unless by “we” you mean yourself and your masters who are taking advantage of peoples’ collective economic ignorance.
        For those who want to learn what regulations are costing our economy:
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/93023823/Wayne-Crews-10-000-Commandments-2012

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Dave I am not trying to disrupt anything. I am trying to speak up against things I believe are incorrect. I am on this site in the hopes of learning something. As for regulations I never said we should keep all regulations or that all regulations are good. I just believe that we need regulations in the same way that we need laws. There needs to be consequences for white collar crime in the same way that there are consequences for blue collar crime. There needs to be consequences for abuses and neglect. And when I say consequences I mean judicial ones. Not CEO steals millions of dollars and has to resign with a multi million dollar golden parachute. He needs to be thrown in jail. Its kind of hard to throw someone in jail for doing something that is not against the law. We need regulations in the same way we need laws is my point. Not all laws or regulations are needed. But we still need them.

    • DaveH

      Jeremy says — “If you think the same government that provides first class healthcare to the armed forces, not to mention running and managing an armed force second to none, is a better option than private sector bureaucrats who can decide whether or not to cover you based on pre existing conditions and who are not beholden to the voters you might be a socialist”.

      If you think it isn’t just a little ironic that a Liberal Progressive would be promoting our armed forces, you might be deluded. Can you say Shill?
      If you think it isn’t an oxymoron to talk about “first class healthcare” for those who are sent to fight and be maimed, and die, so the Crony Capitalists and their Crony Politicians can have more Power and Wealth, then you must be a very deluded Socialist.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Actually it is not Dave. Just because I am a liberal progressive does not mean I hate the armed forces. I believe the United States armed forces is the best in the world and we owe it too our troops to care for and support them. I have been told that is a conservative. Well as I have said I have some conservative views. I guess this is one of them. Nothing ironic. I am just a complex person with a variety of views on a variety of issues. My label does not determine all my views.

      • eddie47d

        Dave doesn’t like labeling (so he says) or name calling (so he says) but he does it all the time! Saying you are anti military Jeremy when he has said that about himself (anti-interventionist) numerous times is alittle much even from him. He slyly sends mixed messages on too many topics thinking no one will notice that he is throwing out wild punches. .

      • DaveH

        Did I say anything about you hating the armed forces, Jeremy (aka Flashman)?
        No Jeremy, you aren’t conservative in any way. You are supporter of all things Big Government. And that stands to reason, you being a shill and all.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I suppose you didn’t Dave. Though your statement “If you think it isn’t just a little ironic that a Liberal Progressive would be promoting our armed forces, you might be deluded.” is open to that interpretation. I am conservative in that I am for a strong reduction in spending. I ado not support everything government does. For Example The National Defense Authorization Act, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, Fast and Furious, The Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, The Iraqi War, The Bush Tax Cuts, The Defense of Marriage Act, Water Boarding, Drone Strikes, Wire Taping and Guantanamo Bay. Those are just a few examples of Big Government that I oppose as strongly as I have ever opposed anything on this site. Also an interesting note. When I was in high school and I opposed the Iraqi War I was called a Bleeding Heart Liberal who was soft on terror and wanted the terrorists to win. Now I am called a Big Government Liberal. Even though my views have not changed all that much except perhaps move more slightly to the center I am still called Liberal. It seems like the definition of liberals has changed in those who decide for themselves what liberals are.

    • carrobin

      Good one, Jeremy. Just call me a socialist. (I wish Obama actually did lean more that way, to tell the truth.)

      • kkflash

        Obama couldn’t lean more “that way” if he were Karl Marx himself.

    • Don

      Gee, Wayne it took you four years the figure out the Obama was a socialist. All you had to do was look to his history. Socialist or Communist grandparents and parents, a Communist mentor, hanging out with socialist students in college, hanging out with Bill Ayres, and belonging to the New Party in Chicago isn’t a sign the Obama is a socialist, then I don’t know what would be.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      With respect Dave: Your evidence is another post of you saying the same thing. That’s proof that what you say is true? Also in that post you suggest that because I used a word someone else uses a lot that that is evidence I am that person. If you noticed the first post I made on this article you will notice I used the word socialist an awful lot. Interestingly Mr. Root uses the word socialist a lot. Could that mean I am actually Mr. Root. Highly unlikely.

      • Old Henry

        Are you makin’ book on that, Jeremy?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        No Old Henry. I am simply pointing out the lack of logic in suggesting that one person is the same as another just because they use the same word.

    • Old Henry

      Here ya go eddie, Flashy, Jeremy, Robert, Walter, et al.

      Your wet dream for tonight!

      And for all of your female counterparts here is what you can aspire to!

      http://conservativevideos.com/2013/01/liberal-chick-the-state-is-my-shepherd-i-shall-not-want/

      It’s short enough to hold your attention. ENJOY!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Old Henry there is a vast difference between wanting a more accountable and ethical government to provide services for the people and to stand as a safe guard against forces that would take advantage of the less powerful and wanting to give the government total and absolute control. There is a difference between wanting a police force and wanting the gestapo.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      DaveH, one week ago I got an e-mail from my son, which stated:

      Mom, I just received my tax return for 2011 back from the IRS.
      And I’m puzzled now!!!
      They are questioning IF I CLAIMED ALL dependents.

      So now I’m asking myself, WHO did I miss?

      To the question on my Tax Return form “List all dependents?” I listed:

      47 million people on food stamps;
      12 million illegal immigrants;
      3 million crack heads;
      2 million people in over 243 prisons;
      Half of Mexico;
      535 useless in the U.S. House and Senate;
      And 1 double illegal “president” aka CHARLATAN.

      I KEEP ASKING MYSELF, WHO DID I MISS?
      Mom, can you help me to answer the question?

      And I replied:
      Yes my son, I can. You missed the DEMONcrats/Libtards/Progressives/Communistic HOAX a.k.a. “paid shills” with very low IQ.
      I provide you with their names and you can add them to the “List all dependents” in your 1040 Tax form for 2012.

      Here you have their name:
      Jeremy aka Flashy; NC aka Nut Case; eddie47d(onkey) (who does not like to be a donkey in the face of his ridiculous stubbornness); Rich and others.
      You are free to add to the list. Thanks

      Happy New Year!

    • http://facebook DUH

      I stopped reading your BS after the first sentence because you seem to have amnesia that GW Bush is the 1 who put us in debt and war! Enough said!

    • http://www.facebook.com/pweiters9 Preston Weiters Jr.

      1/8/13, If you believe America’s best days are behind it, you’re a capitalist.

    • Susan

      Very well said!

      • http://www.facebook.com/pweiters9 Preston Weiters Jr.

        2/2/13, It’s over, folks. At least until Bam vacates. This h/c fiasco will collapse under it’s own weight; consider his: as veteran practitioners leave & retire, there will be fewer replacements, a disaster in itself. Doctor/patient confidentiality will be compromised in favor of the bean counters &, yes, “death panels” who will decide whether or not your care is cost-effective. The healthcare industry is like none other; you cut corners & you dehumanize people, those too old, too sick, or those you just don’t want. Once they get away with controlling 1/6th of our GNP, they will move to the next sector–like energy. I’m waiting for Bam to bang his shoe on his next lectern a-la Nikita Khrushchev @ the UN in 1960.

  • Harold Olsen

    Obama is a socialist! Gee, Root. It’s nice to see you have a firm grasp of the obvious.

    • gunner48

      Socialist my Ass, he is a card carrying. Marxist Communist. That has designs to be the first. Premier,chancellor,Dictator….
      of this once great country……

      • msbets

        This is what I was thinking, I DON’T KNOW WHERE IS GUY HAS BEEN, HE SHOULD BE SAYING, I WISH THAT A SOCIALIST IS ALL THIS MONGREL WAS!!! A SOCIALIST IS MILD COMPARED TO WHAT EVIL, VILE, LITTLE MAN(AND I USE THAT TERM LOOSELY) REALLY IS.

      • ? Chocopot

        My thoughts precisely. Thank you for saying it so clearly.

      • tony newbill

        Will Immigration reform include Gun regulation and for those who do not conform to this be subject to reeducation internment ?

        http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-document-outlines-plan-for-re-education-camps-in-america/

        ht tp://www.infowars.com/yes-the-re-education-camp-manual-does-apply-domestically-to-u-s-citizens/

      • JUKEBOX

        Obama probably thinks it’s great that those people in Cuba are driving around in those classic 50′s model automobiles. They fit his GREEN program.

  • charlie

    If you think that Jeremy Leochner has all day, every day to devote to chasing blogs, and does not receive Obamabait, you may be a Socialist.

    • Paul Wells

      He just needs to get eddie the communist to help fill out more petitions…that would round out his little idiot left wing existence perfectly! After all, what us smart conservatives need to do is keep the useful idiots busy filling out petitions! (Then have them all thrown into the trash, which is what they are worth!)

      • Johnny D

        Socialist Hell! More like an out and out communist.

      • eddie47d

        Paul the fascist troll is strutting his stuff with cowboy Bill in tow. Since I’m not a communist Paul then you deserve to be called far worst! Your a “smart Conservative? Not a chance!

      • Ken Kurtz

        So your opinions are the only valid ones, the wishes of the majority as expressed through a petition are not valid. That sir makes you a traitor to democracy, and reveals your the one who wants to be a dictator. Keep talking…your true colors will out!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Ken Kurtz, learn already that this nation is not a Democracy, nor do we want one.
        By the way, if the petitions were enacted because of emotions they deserve to end up in the garbage can.

      • Paul Wells

        There’s eddie the communist troll right on cue! WTG, comrade eddie! Signed all your petitions yet today?

    • Bill

      And if your name is Eddie, Flashy, Right Brain Thinker or Robert Smith, then you are a socialist.

      • Robert Smith

        Hi Bill,

        Thank you for yet another fine example of a right wing ad hominem attack.

        Can’t make points on logic, fact, or any reasonable arguments, so you attack the poster.

        Thank you again for such a fine example of right wing tactics over substance.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Please, holier than thou Robert. Don’t make me dig out some of your past nasty unprovoked ad hominem attacks.

      • Robert Smith

        Dig ‘em out DaveH. At least there is some truth to them.

        Oh! I have an idea… Why don’t you dig out how many times samurai used “moron.” Haven’t seen it lately though. Did someone tell him to stop?

        Rob

      • DaveH

        I’m not talking about Samurai, or Bush, or anybody else but you, Robert. You’re a hypocrite writ large:
        http://personalliberty.com/2011/09/01/teaching-the-birds-and-the-bees-along-with-abcs-41427/#comment-407923

        There are many others.

      • Robert Smith

        Excellent! Post ‘em.

        BTW, my kid has learned to cope with those from the extreme reich. He can recognize them and drive them into door slamming exits from trying to pontificate in a room just like his pappy does. I’m proud of him. In some ways he’s even better than I am at it because they don’t expect it from someone of his age.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Here’s another:
        http://personalliberty.com/2011/10/17/house-gop-reignites-abortion-issue-talks-800617823/#comment-429939

        So you’re training your kid to be a Thief and Forcer, Robert? You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

        Does your kid know how often I make you look like the ignoramus that you are?

      • Robert Smith

        I hope folks actually look at what I posted.

        You still have no proof.

        ROFL…

        Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: BTW, my kid has learned to cope with those from the extreme reich.

        I should think so, Robert, growing up with you must have been quite the learning experience for the little tyke. Hopefully you haven’t caused too much damage.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Scanning the thread and noticed that I was mentioned by one of the mindless. Bill says, “And if your name is Eddie, Flashy, Right Brain Thinker or Robert Smith, then you are a socialist”. Brilliant contribution, and one that Robert has dealt with more than adequately. However, since the leader of the mindless, DaveH, has chipped in, I guess I might as well do the same.

        I particularly like what Robert Smith says here, “BTW, my kid has learned to cope with those from the extreme reich. He can recognize them and drive them into door slamming exits from trying to pontificate in a room just like his pappy does. I’m proud of him. In some ways he’s even better than I am at it because they don’t expect it from someone of his age”.

        Give your kid a pat on the back for me, Robert. If there are enough like him coming up, there may be hope for the country yet. One of the great pleasures of being an educator was seeing smart kids become even smarter.

        This also reminds me of the line I used to use to provoke “door slamming exits from trying to pontificate in a room”. When “they” started in on all of O’Bama’s failings, I used to say things like “Cut the crap—why can’t you just admit that you’re a sore loser and a racist and can’t stand the fact that we have a black president and the old white man lost”.

        Worked every time—-after either a moment of dumb-struck, mouth dropped silence OR extreme professions of “some of my best friends are black, etc”. Although the slow learners ARE finally starting to try to talk their way out of that accusation lately—-using that “logic” they are so well known for—-so the “door slamming exits” don’t happen as quickly.

        And DaveH becomes the leader in the race for “Best Laugh of the Day” by saying,
        “Does your kid know how often I make you look like the ignoramus that you are?”
        BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA, Dave!! LMAO Need I explain why that’s so funny?

  • Ralph Miller

    And it took four years for you to find this out

  • Fedup

    Helluva revelation!

  • Brad Stockinger

    Obama’s dream for America of becoming a european style socialist country is not my dream. I hope it’s not any american’s idea to leave behind our founding principles.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I don’t know how you know what President Obama is dreaming, that’s kind of creepy, but his policies are far from Socialist. Our country has always had social programs under every administration; that does NOT make us a Socialist couuntry.

      • rendarsmith

        A country that adopts socialist policies is not a socialist country….ok that makes perfect sense. Brilliant logic there Doc! What is a socialist country then?

      • Flashy

        Doc…in any other era, President Obama would be deemed a conservative Moderate. With the hold the extremists have on the GOP, Reagan would not have made it out of the first set of primaries…being viewed as too liberal.

        it’s the swan song of the extremists. We can only hold our breath hoping they don’t do too much further damage as they are pushed into the corner to be ignored and marginalized. They know it’s a downhill slide for their influence and time. They won’t admit it…they’ll scream in self inflated importance, and try to derail any rebuilding of this nation from the damages they wrought these past few years…but in the end, they will have made the GOP into a minority party and then we can continue the rebuilding from their destructive policies unhindered by their rants.

      • Motov

        Ok lets try “Fascist” , “Crook”, “Compulsive Liar”, “Egoist”, “Maniac”, “Moron”. “Anti Constitutionalist”…….

      • Steve E

        Socialist do not know that they are socialist. That’s the magic that stupidity brings with it.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        More fascist than socialist. If you had read “The Obamanation” you would know that already.

      • JUSTCROSSTHEBORDER

        The more education people attend to the dumber they seems to become. If in fact you are a doc. I once heard that people that finish at the bottom of the class are also call doctors.

      • Bill

        And if your name is Doc Sarvis, you are a socialist

      • charlie

        I do know Doc!
        When your actions are separated from reality by more than 3 degrees – you ARE DREAMING, big boy.

      • DaveH

        Flashshill says — “Doc…in any other era, President Obama would be deemed a conservative Moderate. With the hold the extremists have on the GOP, Reagan would not have made it out of the first set of primaries…being viewed as too liberal”.
        The extremist Flashman calls anybody, who knows as our Founders did that Big Government serves Big Government, an “extremist” because it’s what manipulative shill operatives do to sway ignorant minds.
        The funny thing is that those ignorant people are already in his camp so he gains nothing but looking like a fool.

      • Flashy

        Davey boy … since there were literally hundreds of “Founders”, which ones are you talking about? And were they federalists or democrats?

        In comments relating to judicial review, many of the Contnential Congress and Fist Congress indicated that the power of judges to declare laws unconstitutional was part of the system of separation of powers. They stated that the courts’ power to declare laws unconstitutional would provide a check on the legislature, protecting against excessive exercise of legislative power. Madison was one, Randolph another, Hamilton a third. Were not each of those to be considered ‘Founders” ?

        One of the first beneficiaries of the doctrine was Jefferson…who ignored the Constitution constantly as he expanded the nation as well as the powers of the Presidency. So…you have Jefferson’s political comments written for political purposes. … we have Jefferson’s actual actions.

      • DaveH

        Founders, as in the people who “Founded” the United States Federal Government. Those who tried unsuccessfully to protect the people from the inevitable attacks on Freedom that are common with Leaders. Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely. You know “corrupt”, like you Flashman.
        For those who would like to get intimate with the minutes of the Constitutional Convention and see that Flashman is blowing smoke up your tailpipe:
        http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/debcont.asp

        You are welcome, Flashman, to provide references to back up your claims. But we all know you can’t.
        That’s why you have no credibility on this board, Flashshill.

      • Flashy

        Did you read any of those Davey boy? LOL….no0 need to shame yourself, we know you’re modus operandi. You paste a link you haven’t read, containing something inane, yet state it to support you. When you have no clue what the linked material actually states.

        So Davey…did you personally read the minutes to the Constitutional Convention? And the sidebars, letters, and extraneous commentaries? Or is this the “I aced philosophy’ without reading any of the Great Masters?

      • DaveH

        No, I haven’t read them all, Flashshill. But the link is there. I did your leg-work for you. All you need do now is find one to support your lie.

    • TIME

      Dear F,

      Hitler was also a mild mannered easy going all around nice guy too, Not unlike a few of his super special friends like ~ Stalin, & Mao, hey all these special people who believed in the magic of being oh so lovable, so mild and easy going ~ yet had some strange and twisted love for blood lust.
      Must be a fluke, perhaps a Sandra Fluke, or one of the countless other freaks of nature whom we get the extended pleasure of being inundated with on the Mind Glow Tube.

      Oh yes back to that special; Barry Omen, / Harrison J. Bounel or Barry Sotoro, or Barry Obama, or what ever his real name is afterall {no one really knows what his real name is,} nor do you or any one really know a damm thing about this person other than what his {{{actions display.}}}
      Of what we can clearly see that ~ Barry Omen is a carbon copy of these other special super warm and fuzzy people who also displayed their form of uber love of the human condition.
      MY its just heart warming to see how Barry is just like his heros: “Stalin & Mao” , hey ~ he also has a light rub of the old sage Hitler mixed in that bag too ~ for that really warm fuzzy feeling that just keeps the old LOVE Train a` going.

      Oh yes that special ~ Barry Omen is really a true example of a man of “Peace and Love”.

      Hey ~ with todays special you can also get a bag of human skin chips made from burnt offerings from Barry’s special Daily Drone Kills,
      BUT hey thats no big deal afterall they are just them crazy middle eastern people that Barrys killing on mass daily, so thats ok with special people like you.
      Afterall they don’t count as humans in the minds of the Neo Quasi Liberal also knows as Progressive / MARXIST, yet in your case its more of you being a “SHILL for MURDER”.

      Hey hows that John Stewart show working out for you? Get any HOT flashes?

      • Bill

        Sad reality, but the only way for Obama and his merry crowd to get out of debt is war. That is what history shows. Just keep your ears open and listen for the reasons why they have to go to war

      • Robert Smith

        “Just keep your ears open and listen for the reasons why they have to go to war”

        As opposed to someone like Bush who simply lied to get us into war.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        As opposed to Obama who just broke the law to involve us in a war.

      • Robert Smith

        Which war, which law? Please be specific.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Bill almost hit the nail on the head (and I agree with his premise) but he forgot to mention Nixon,Reagan and Bush in warmongering so that kills his point. They all do it big boy now put on your big boy pants and admit it. That way we can take a united stand instead of this being a Democrat/Republican thing!

        • Motov

          Nixon got us OUT of a war that LBJ started.

        • BR549

          But Eddie, you can’t talk about the Nixon, Reagan and Bush warmongering without talking about the Clinton and Obama warmongering.

          For that matter, why don’t we REALLY ask what forces have been pulling all of their strings since the ’70s? Then maybe we could connect the dots as to a larger agenda BESIDE the Rep/Dem, good-guy/bad-guy false paradigm tossed on our TVs by the corporate owned media.

          One of my favorite political images was a picture of a sheep standing in front of a TV showing George Bush, but the same is true of anyone who still doesn’t see what is really going on. It’s a Red Pill and Blue Pill thing; some people want to dive into the truth, as much as it might upset them. The others just want either the Republican or Democrat Fairy Tale and to be allowed to go back to sleep.

      • Walter & Renee Agard

        Hi bill, I think you should ask your buddy BUSH that question not obama .I cant see why you all blaming Obama and not seeing the facts

      • Maryland Freestater

        “Robert Smith says:
        January 3, 2013 at 10:02 am

        “Just keep your ears open and listen for the reasons why they have to go to war”

        As opposed to someone like Bush who simply lied to get us into war.

        Rob”

        Damn, sorry to be picking on you today RS. BUT, EVERYBODY (except for the Prezz) voted for war with Iraq based on common beliefs that they were the next Nazis. EVERYBODY, dude. And even though I have no love for Pres. Patriot Act, his info was based on faulty info to begin with. There is a strong possibility that Saddam H was lied to by his own DARPA who needed to cover their own asses. And also a strong possibility Bush Jr. had a vendetta with Saddam H ‘cos of the hit job SH placed against Bush Sr.

      • JeffH

        Gee Walter & Renee Agard, last time I checked Obama, not Bush, was running the country and has been starting new fights as well as escalating the old ones.

        When historians sit down decades from now to address the events of the early 21st century, they will have no trouble explaining why Americans elected Barack Obama president. They elected him out of a firm conviction that the United States was not involved in enough wars.

        Problem solved. Today, American forces are fighting in four countries for sure.

        How about Yemen, where we learn the administration is carrying out an intense covert campaign against anti-government militants, using fighter aircraft and drone missiles. It is being handled by the Pentagon in conjunction with the CIA, and according to The New York Times, “teams of American military and intelligence operatives have a command post in Sana, the Yemeni capital.”

        Or Libya. Since March, the administration has been immersed in a grand humanitarian mission requiring us to deliver bombs on a regular basis. Obama’s stated goal was to prevent a mass slaughter he accused Moammar Gadhafi of plotting. But that pretext has given way to the real purpose: killing the dictator, pounding his regime into submission, or both.

        Continuing the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and starting new wars…do ya feel safer? Probably not unless you are a socialist.

        Most of what presidents do with the U.S. military is not aimed at enhancing the security or welfare of the American people. It serves mainly to advance our domination of the world, even — or maybe especially — in places irrelevant to any tangible interests.

      • Flashy

        “As opposed to Obama who just broke the law to involve us in a war.” <— Davey boy

        What law was that Davey? As an aside…did he lie to us to get us involved in Libya as a NATO ally and non-ground assistance ? Or are you claiming he lied as Bush II did to get us into Iraq and Afgghanistan?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: “Just keep your ears open and listen for the reasons why they have to go to war”
        As opposed to someone like Bush who simply lied to get us into war.

        Oh boy, and you wonder why no one here takes you seriously…remarkable display of “Cognitive-dissonance”, btw!

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “Which war, which law? Please be specific”.

        The Libyan war.
        The War Powers Resolution:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

      • DaveH

        Even one of Obama’s fellow Democrats thought he should be impeached for that:
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/dennis-kucinich-obama-impeachment_n_838502.html

      • DaveH

        For those who wonder — Why Libya?
        http://2012patriot.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/new-libyan-gold-dinar/

        In fact, all of our middle east actions have roots in money matters and oil.

        One would think that Flashman, being a Liberal Progressive, would express horror at such things.
        But then that would require ignorance of FlashShill’s real purpose here.

      • Flashy

        “Robert says — “Which war, which law? Please be specific”.

        The Libyan war.
        The War Powers Resolution:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution” <— Davey boy

        LOL I guess that's why Congress invoked the WPA and asked the courts for enforcement eh? oh wait…Congress didn't.

        You do realize no president, from the time the WPA was enacted…no President has taken the position it was a constitutional power of Congress and every one took the position they were not obligated to it. Every president Davey…every single one. And…just as important, Congress has never pressed the issue in a court to force a President to abide with the terms.

        So is it against the law if no court rules it is? Especially if no suit filed asking for "enforcement" ?

        What a dufus…

      • Robert Smith

        MOTOV claims: “Nixon got us OUT of a war that LBJ started.”

        Actually the war was started long before LBJ. It was going when the French left, and it continued as President Eisenhower (a republican) sent troops in to “advise.” Then it grew from there, fertilized by the hawks from the right who didn’t want the “domino” thing going on.

        Nixon did get us out after years of mismanagement of the war.

        BTW, Nixon also opened China for trade. We all know how that has turned out.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Why does Motov once again say that Nixon got us out of Vietnam. For awhile he actually escalated it and cause half the casualties. Besides he was impeached and Ford ended the war on April 28 1975.

      • DaveH

        I’m a dufus?
        It’s you, Flashshill, who is claiming the law hasn’t been broken because more than one politician is doing it.
        So I guess Murderers are no longer Murderers because many before them have done it and gotten away with it.
        Your logic, Flashman, is sorely in need of improvement.

        It must really be humiliating for a “dufus” to continually put your face in the dirt.
        You remind me of the punch-drunk boxer, Flashshill, who keeps standing up just to get knocked down again.
        You’re pitiful, Flashman.

      • DaveH

        There you have it, Folks. Flashshill is bragging about how the Politicians ignore the Constitution and even their own laws as they see fit.
        Is this the kind of country you want to live in? One where creepy, lawless, and lying characters like Flashman are running your lives?
        Sheesh.

    • Ken Kurtz

      Our founders dream was a country that was controlled by the people and for the people. Not one to be controlled by corporations and self serving millionaires. If taking care of our own people is Socialistic, than I am proud to be a Socialist. If treating all people with dignity and respect, and finding a way for illegal immigrants to become proud citizens that contribute to the well being of our society, than I am a Socialist. If living life the way Christ taught us to live it is being a Socialist than I am a Socialist. However, these things you label as being Socialistic, I label as being a good American, who loves his country and the people who comprise it.

      • BR549

        Ken wrote: “If taking care of our own people is Socialistic, than I am proud to be a Socialist.”

        I think ANY system that is truly working properly would be able to take care of those who were less fortunately, but then that would mean that those who WERE more fortunate would be volunteering their time and energy to help others, and those at the bottom would be motivated to contribute and do so with integrity.

        When those at the top AND bottom are both violating other people’s boundaries to safe their own asses, the problem is not the form of government; it’s higher than that. That is when everyone has lost their common connection to a higher ideal.

        That is why (without bringing religion into this) the problem is approaching one of spiritual proportions and “coincidentally” just happens to involve all the human foibles that the ancient sages had known about. It is why we have these “revisionist” judges who somehow believe we have managed to outgrow our humanity and that it is time to revise or toss out the Constitution. It isn’t that the Constitution is archaic, the problem is that greed and avarice has convinced everyone that it is obsolete, …… before we ever had a chance to actually live into its wisdom.

      • GALT

        Actually the ‘constitution’ is archaic, and non existent, and an illusion, in that the ‘words’ that have been left in place for you to read ( these are the one’s which inspire those of you to yell “unconstitutional” with every act of government ) have no meaning, because the “jurisdiction” that would give them “meaning” and “force” no longer exists.

        The problem with the “original design” which ran through 4 phases, the Continental Association, the United States Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the United States Constitution, is that the “intent” and “motivation” for it, is NOT actually understood……..and it can not be “understood”, by attempting to use the “words” of the “document”….to do so…….for the “documents” are the “effects” of the “conditions” which caused them to be written…….and most have no clue what the words mean anyway, or meant. ( which makes all the “opinion” offered here regarding this “meaning” rather pointless………but it just keeps going on and on and on. )

        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        “The Continental Association, often known simply as the “Association”, was a system created by the First Continental Congress in 1774 for implementing a trade boycott with Great Britain. Congress hoped that by imposing economic sanctions, Great Britain would be pressured to redress the grievances of the colonies, and in particular repeal the Intolerable Acts passed by the British Parliament. The Association aimed to alter Britain’s policies towards the colonies without severing allegiance.

        The boycott became operative on December 1, 1774. The Association was fairly successful while it lasted. Trade with Great Britain fell sharply, and the British responded with the New England Restraining Act of 1775. The outbreak of the American Revolutionary War effectively superseded the attempt to boycott British goods.”

        http://www.constitution.org/bcp/art_assoc.htm

        That is the link to the text of the original document and the subject material is quite clear……….

        In fact the entire history of the North American continent can be viewed as a trade war between the British East India Company and the French COMPAGNIE DES INDES OCCIDENTALES, at least for most of the eastern seaboard of the U.S. and Canada, which reached it’s conflict peak with the Seven Year’s War in Europe. ( French and Indian War for the North American Theatre )

        The winner’s write history ( at least temporarily ) and this document is omitted entirely from both the history we learn and all of the discussion regarding the “meaning” of the documents that followed…….yet if one examines those that signed and participated in the process of “producing” these documents………they would be recognized for the “educated and financial” elite, who were excluded from “benefits” of the “winner” of this Trade War……..

        The Articles of Confederation is the first attempt to “construct” a model of self governance…… ( by the educated and financial elite in the midst of the war of independence ) but the idea’s here are rooted in The Magna Carta which was forced on King John in 1215, conveying the principles of “common law” which was already in place in the colonies.

        This document is however, distinctly ANTI-FEDERALIST in it’s construction, and since “The winner’s write history ( at least temporarily )” it is given short shrift, in the understanding of history and most “discussion” of it……..even though, most of the Articles are transferred to the constitution directly…….so that what we are left with, for the most part……is citations of the FEDERALIST PAPERS, regarding intent…. and Madison’s notes, the only consistently non-inebriated attendee of the “illegal gathering held in secret” in 1787……….everything else is missing and “ignored”.

        It was also written when the “economy” of the U.S. was “agrarian”, which was about to change……….

        The ultimate “irony” of the present discussion ( or that which pretends to be a discussion ) is ECONOMICS………( the cause again )……..and a government which is not working and an economy which is not working and the fact that there is no where else to go………..

        Do we share ‘common ground”? Yes…….but we do not share “common understanding” as to the “cause” of what we are experiencing…….because most of the “opinion” is clearly ‘ignorant’ of both “history”, and what caused it to happen……..because the “winners’ wrote it……and those who benefit from this continued distortion, are still distorting it…….

        “To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!” ( and then HANG, separately. )

        We now return you to the continuation of your regularly scheduled idiocy.

  • bUCKEYE8

    Wayne Allyn Root has proved himself to be a fake and a “LIAR” many times. Give it up repub you lost and Obama has won 4 more years. Poor loser.

    • Paul Wells

      “None are so blind as those who will not see” – Matthew Henry

      “If the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.” – Jesus

      Those are the two that come to mind, buckeye8, and yes, sadly, they both apply to you.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Nice of you to quote a true Socialist, Jesus.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Doc Sarvis, Where is your evidence that Jesus was a socialist. I have studied the bible and the history of religion. No where did Jesus ever espouse socialism Yes you can take parts of parables and take them out of context to try to paint that picture. but no where is there any evidence.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Capitalist, wasn’t it Jesus who tipped the tables of the money changers?

        Wasn’t it Jesus who healed people without charging them?

        Rob

      • Paul Wells

        Oh, Jesus was a socialist? Well, he did do miracles for those least able, so if that is honestly what you *think* a socialist is, yes, I guess you could warp your mind around Jesus being a socialist.

        But, concerning what the good book says about moochers, which socialists also condone the behavior of:

        For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10

        Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. Proverbs 10:4

        How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest — and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man. Proverbs 6:9-11

        Not that any of you libtards would ever actually pick up a Bible to see what God thinks.

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “Wasn’t it Jesus who healed people without charging them?”.

        That one was pretty ignorant even for you, Robert. In Free Markets (Capitalism) you can charge your customer whatever you please if they will accept the charge as a fair exchange.

      • Robert Smith

        How does your brutal god deal with the 1%?

        Rob

        • tony newbill

          its amazing and Ironic that the 1 % majority of them support Obama . so what does that tell ya about true fiscal and Tax code reform ever coming to be with the grand Bargain B.S and all that Jive ?

          • Motov

            It’s that 1% who owns both parties, Didn’t matter who won the election because it would have been the same crap but in a different package, There was no major change when OhBozo took over from the Shrub, OhBozo just picked up where the Shrub left off.
            This has been going on for decades. They were a tad scared at first but they told the press and the GOP to ignore Ron Paul. He was their only threat.
            Everything else didn’t matter as it was designed to keep the sheeple from listening to someone who believed in the constitution. Everything was just a show.
            What will happen is by raising taxes,….Congress with OhBozo will increase spending
            because they will believe there will be an increase of revenue. The debt is not even in their microscopic brains.

      • eddie47d

        Tony: The Bible has alot to say about abuse from the 1% (wealthy).James 2:5 Has not God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in Faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that He has promised to those who love Him? 6: But you (wealthy) have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who oppress you?

      • eddie47d

        Paul Wells: You mean us terrible (commie)”Libtards”? Your words! Mark 12:41-44 “Many rich people put in large sums . A poor widow came and put in two small copper coins which are worth a penny. Then Jesus says to his Disciples Truly I tell you this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the treasury. They gave out of abundance but she out of poverty has put in everything she had”. Not much different than today where the wealthy stoke themselves to make a name for themselves while the poor are looked down upon. How about the well known Mark 10:25 “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for someone who is rich to enter the Kingdom of God”

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Eddie: The Bible has alot to say about abuse from the 1% (wealthy).James 2:5 Has not God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in Faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that He has promised to those who love Him? 6: But you (wealthy) have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who oppress you?

        Eddie, Jesus was speaking of the “rich” who had political power with which to oppress the “poor”. Not, the “rich” in general. Another words, it wasn’t a generalized-statement, but a judgmental-statement, aimed at a very specific group. You need to start reading “in-Context”.

      • kkflash

        Doc Sarvis, Robert Smith: Neither of you know $hit about Jesus, if you think he was a socialist. He advocated individuals CHOOSING to help the poor and less fortunate. Never did he advocate the forced redistribution of wealth by the government. It is the CHOICE that makes the act Christian, and the force that makes the act socialist.

      • DaveH

        I don’t know if Robert was talking to me or not, but I am pretty sure he has no clue as to who the One Percenters really are:
        http://mises.org/daily/5776/The-State-is-the-1-Percent

      • eddie47d

        WTS: He was talking about the rich in general who went to the Temple to impress the priests and to gain favor. The poor woman was gaining nothing (except her soul).

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Excerpt from the article, DaveH. Couldn’t resist.

        “In fact, that 1 percent includes some of the smartest, most innovative people in the country — the people who invent, market, and distribute material blessings to the whole population. But there is another 1 percent out there…”

        The “occupy” protest movement is thriving off the claim that the 99 percent are being exploited by the 1 percent, and there is truth in what they say. But they have the identities of the groups wrong. They imagine that it is the 1 percent of highest wealth holders who are the problem. In fact, that 1 percent includes some of the smartest, most innovative people in the country — the people who invent, market, and distribute material blessings to the whole population. They also own the capital that sustains productivity and growth.

        But there is another 1 percent out there, those who do live parasitically off the population and exploit the 99 percent. Moreover, there is a long intellectual tradition, dating back to the late Middle Ages, that draws attention to the strange reality that a tiny minority lives off the productive labor of the overwhelming majority.

        I’m speaking of the state, which even today is made up of a tiny sliver of the population but is the direct cause of all the impoverishing wars, inflation, taxes, regimentation, and social conflict. This 1 percent is the direct cause of the violence, the censorship, the unemployment, and vast amounts of poverty, too.

        Look at the numbers, rounding from latest data. The US population is 307 million. There are about 20 million government employees at all levels, which makes 6.5 percent. But 6.2 million of these people are public-school teachers, whom I think we can say are not really the ruling elite. That takes us down to 4.4 percent.

        We can knock of another half million who work for the post office, and probably the same who work for various service department bureaus. Probably another million do not work in any enforcement arm of the state, and there’s also the amazing labor-pool fluff that comes with any government work. Local governments do not cause nationwide problems (usually), and the same might be said of the 50 states. The real problem is at the federal level (8.5 million), from which we can subtract fluff, drones, and service workers.

        In the end, we end up with about 3 million people who constitute what is commonly called the state. For short, we can just call these people the 1 percent.

        The 1 percent do not generate any wealth of their own. Everything they have they get by taking from others under the cover of law. They live at our expense. Without us, the state as an institution would die.

        There you have it folks, there is your 1% that feeds off the life-blood from the American tax-payers!

      • GALT

        It would seem that the “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate” DavidH has given us
        another mindless link to “von mises”……..

        “They imagine that it is the 1 percent of highest wealth holders who are the problem. In fact, that 1 percent includes some of the smartest, most innovative people in the country — the people who invent, market, and distribute material blessings to the whole population. They also own the capital that sustains productivity and growth.”

        Unfortunately the author ( L. Rockwell ) neglected to “identify” any of these people.

        Maybe DavidH, who seems to rely on this “source” for most of what he claims
        is “his understanding” of “things” ( and the solution ) could provide us with
        this list…….either on his own ( which would not be a good idea ) or directly
        from the “source”……( since it is possible that maybe it exists in other offerings
        by Mr. Rockwell? )

        It might also be interesting to see a list of David’s “crony capitalists” in contrast
        to these yet “unidentified” list of what we might possibly assume are “non crony capitalist’s”, since we are actually being referred to this link, for a reason?

        Which is the continual problem with the “functionally illiterate” part of DavidH,
        in that he never actually understands anything he reads…….which is
        why he never makes “any sense”………but we shall see…….

        David?

      • GALT

        YO VICKI……this is the “original POST” which asks THE question of “DavidH.”

        Do you see a response to the question?

        Are you a “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate” like DavidH……is?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You appear to be a poor winner, since you are not happy to have O. If you were happy you would not come on this site to talk against the writer.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      It is sad that you don’t even realize that we are all losers. You are either a dupe or a comrade. Which are you? My guess would be a dupe.

    • Bill

      And if your name is buckeye8, you are a socialist

      • Dennis48e

        I think buckeye8 has been eating Buckeyes.

    • charlie

      Must be union math teachers in Ohio!
      Obama prevailed with 28% of the eligible votes! That is FAR from a mandate or even a considerable win. Most people don’t even think Obama is qualified (for anything) he only fooled the fools.
      72% of the eligible people in America, did NOT vote for Obama, that’s a fact Clyde!
      Obama, 62 million votes – Romney, 60 million votes; Eligible voters that thought the whole process stinks and did not cast a ballot, 93 million!
      Before you mount your High Horse, you better say a prayer that you don’t awaken the other 93 million voters.
      Happy New Year.

      • eddie47d

        Charlie: I think you have that backwards somewhat. Its the poor who don’t register to vote. Its the poor/lower middle class who can’t afford to take time off from work to vote. Sure there are poor at home who could vote but don’t have a way to get to the polls. Yes if the system was fair there would be an awakening and they would find a way to vote.

      • charlie

        Right eddie!?!!
        Seems like many people do a ‘feel-good’ think and find personal relief in speaking for “the poor”.
        Not counting Food Stamps, ADC, SNAP, School Lunches, Welfare, Subsidized Housing and Grants in Aid, plus Free Bus Tokens; what poor are you referring to? It must be the worker that has to pay for all these ‘benefits!

      • eddie47d

        Good point Charlie but you initially were talking about the voting blocks so that is how I responded.

  • Flashy

    Well Mr. “Ro0mney in a landslide’ root…nice list. Inaccurate, twisted sense of reasoning, and not baed on anything which would be substantive as far as going after the issues before the Nation, but it’s realized you’re funnin’ with everyone. or are you following the written script and claiming it’s everyone else’s fault, and somehow the right wing extremists are devoid of any responsibility for fault ?

    One question..is the reason you wrote this piece of attack fluff to divert attention away from the failure of the extremists in Congress and their last gasps of infany is to walk away from any solutions of compromise and instead do their utmost to send this nation downward…perhaps to your cheers of support?

    • Paul Wells

      Flashy says, “nice list. Inaccurate, twisted sense of reasoning, and not baed on anything which would be substantive as far as going after the issues before the Nation…”

      Just exactly like every one of your posts….inaccurate, twisted sense (actually, in YOUR case, NO sense) of reasoning, and not based on anything….blah blah.

    • Motov

      You think it is good to compromise our Constitution?
      To continue power grabs, give money we don’t have to other nations, and continue an unsustainable world dominating presence, continue to cater to illegal immigrants, and then tell the tax payers they need to spend more to the government so they can continue
      running this nation right into the ground?
      Wow! Guess this nation does deserve what it voted for.

    • JUSTCROSSTHEBORDER

      We should be so lucky that one day someone will have the backbone and require the documents of obozo open for the people to determine his eligibility. If we have to show proof of our citizenship to enter military service, get drivers license w/o documents impossible, register into educational facilities or get employment. Then, Why a person that is running for high office is exempted. What is there to hide? Perhaps he/she is not in America legally. Or involved in other activities that are contrary to our CONSTITUTION. Every one of those issues I stated I have provided my documents w/o any hesitation. WHAT IS HIS PROBLEM>

  • Doc Sarvis

    Mr. Root should try some research. Even the editor of The Socialist magazine, Billy Wharton, states; “Not only is [Obama] not a socialist, he may in fact not even be a liberal.” To explain why the president was, in his words, a “hedge-fund democrat,” Wharton cited Obama’s refusal to structurally change the financial system, his refusal to institute single-payer health care, and his aggressive foreign policies — all of which would be grounds for kicking him out of the socialist club. This from an article in dailyfinance.com.

    And try this; http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/opinion/obama-the-socialist-not-even-close.html?_r=0

    • Paul Wells

      Doc, the number one tools to make tools believe fools, is to redefine what “socialism” is, and that is exactly what you have done. You are a koolaid drinker through and through. Sad.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Excuse me, but the dailyfinance.com reference I posted is based on Merriam-Webster’s definition of Socialism. Are you telling me that is not a valid source for definitions?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Paul Wells says that DOC has “redefined” socialism? Lord love a duck, Paul!.

        YOU are the one that has swallowed the “redefinition of socialism” kool-aid, not Doc. Someone else mentioned some of the many things that move O’Bama pretty far over into the center (and even to the right of that a bit)—–did you pay any attention to that? Or does your status as an “only one flavor kool-aid drinker allowed” make that impossible?

        Speaking of blind folks, you should also have included the one that goes “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king” (or something like that). Doc has at least one eye and can perhaps explain to you how Richard Nixon (definitely) and Ronald Reagan (in more than a few ways) would be “Liberals” under today’s insane definition of the term.

        You’re beyond “sad”, Paul. You are deluded if you can’t recognize the fallacies in the “O’Bama is a socialist-communist-Marxist-fascist-Nazi” horsepucky and the FACTS that he has demonstrated in many ways that he is just a kinder, gentler version of the front men for the plutocracy and corporate oligarchy that have been working to enslave us for the last 30+years.

      • Flashy

        Doc….these are folks who have stated that the SCOTUS is not the Constitutional final arbiter of what the Constitution says and means. They “know’….no one else is correct or has any validity. Socialism is what they say it is…not what the vast majority know it to be.

        For example, ask Davey boy…he’d come up with some farcical nonsense, claim you’re denigrating him, and send a Mises link on another subject stating without doubt it was informative (though he doesn’t read them)

      • Karolyn

        I would seriously think that if Socialist Magazine does not think Obama is a socialist, then he isn’t.

      • TML

        Flashy says, “…these are folks who have stated that the SCOTUS is not the Constitutional final arbiter of what the Constitution says and means.”

        You speak in half-truths by not understanding the Constitution or what your opponent is actually arguing.

        SCOTUS as final arbiter is constitutional only as it pertains to a specific case and that ruling then only pertains to that case… which can even be appealed. In that sense, they are the final arbiter, but the practice of judicial review without a specific case – meaning, it must meet the guidelines for a case to be heard, as opposed to having them rule on something just to give the ok or see what they say – is not constitutional in itself, and even when practiced, such ruling does not stand as law. A tribunal of unelected officials for life does not have the constitutional power to declare themselves the final arbiter of all constitutional questions as if to pass legislation either by ruling or mere review of all acts of the Legislative branch.

        This is especially true regarding secession in which the principle of contract, the obligation is mutual; that the failure of one of the contracting parties to perform a material part of the agreement, entirely releases the obligation of the other, and where no arbiter is provided (because federal government – SCOTUS – being its own arbiter is like a plaintiff being judge and jury, or like the wolf guarding the hen house) each party remitted to his own judgment to determine the fact of failure, with all its consequences.

        The power of the sovereign state also has the power of nullification against any law its own Supreme court deems unconstitutional.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Karolyn: I would seriously think that if Socialist Magazine does not think Obama is a socialist, then he isn’t.

        That’s because he’s not, a Socialist. Obama, is Fascist!

      • Flashy

        “SCOTUS as final arbiter is constitutional only as it pertains to a specific case and that ruling then only pertains to that case… which can even be appealed.” <— TML

        Errrr…TML, what is the higher level of appeal as to whether something is within the Constitutional powers or is unconstitutional? As for the remainder of your rant…you would be well served to red marbury v madison… a principle case which has been adhered to since it's writing…back in 1803. now…if that case was in error…given so many of the drafters were still breathing (including Jefferson, Adams, Washington, etc…) would you not think they'd be united as one voice saying 'not so!" ?

        And now, after 210 years of recognizing that case as the basic case for the role and powers of the SCOTUS, you state today that it was all in error? because….you say so?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        RBT: You are deluded if you can’t recognize the fallacies in the “O’Bama is a socialist-communist-Marxist-fascist-Nazi” horsepucky and the FACTS that he has demonstrated in many ways that he is just a kinder, gentler version of the front men for the plutocracy and corporate oligarchy that have been working to enslave us for the last 30+years.

        Actually, that’s a very nice way of putting it, RBT, and remarkably accurate. That’s like saying; Jeffrey Dahmer, is a kinder and gentler version of all “homicidal-maniacs” that have been preying on society since time immemorial!

      • TML

        Flashy says, “what is the higher level of appeal as to whether something is within the Constitutional powers or is unconstitutional?”

        It can be appealed, not necessarily to a higher court, but because it is understood as mere interpretation by a fallible group of individuals.

        Flashy says, “As for the remainder of your rant…you would be well served to red marbury v madison… a principle case which has been adhered to since it’s writing…back in 1803. now…if that case was in error…given so many of the drafters were still breathing (including Jefferson, Adams, Washington, etc…) would you not think they’d be united as one voice saying ‘not so!” ?”

        I have read it, and was the exact case I referred to when I stated that a tribunal of unelected officials for life does not have the constitutional power to act as an oligarchy, to declare themselves the final arbiter of all constitutional questions, even above the Legislative branch or the States which are a party to the constitution. As to your question, both Madison and Jefferson (among many others) DID unite in saying no to the doctrine of judicial review, which is nowhere expressly delegated to the Supreme Court in the Constitution.

        Flashy says, “And now, after 210 years of recognizing that case as the basic case for the role and powers of the SCOTUS, you state today that it was all in error? because….you say so?”

        The tradition of referencing that case does not mean that it is constitutional. And you don’t have to take my word for it; you can easily reference Madison’s and Jefferson’s writings on judicial review and nullification.

      • eddie47d

        I think you are the kool aid drinker Paul Wells. There are many on the left who don’t think Obama is a socialist and certainly not a communist so enough of your pet names. Some think he is a die hard crony capitalist and almost as bad as Bush as a warmonger. You need to put on your thinking cap more often because you are too often wrong..

      • TML

        Flashy says, “what is the higher level of appeal as to whether something is within the Constitutional powers or is unconstitutional?”

        TML says, “It can be appealed, not necessarily to a higher court, but because it is understood as mere interpretation by a fallible group of individuals.”

        To help you better, it is the specific Supreme Court Rule #44

      • Flashy

        TML….As of 2010, the United States Supreme Court had held unconstitutional some 163 Acts of the U.S. Congress. That’s from Wikipedia. Instead of going through the process of the Doctrine of judicial review…and aside from Jefferson stating the SCOTUS may not have review, he never argued state courts lacked the power. And..ironic isn’t it that Jefferson followed the SCOTUS decisions?

        Here is a fairly good explanation of Marbury and judicial review. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review_in_the_United_States

        If I may ask…who decides what the Constitution allows if two or more parties disagree?

        if i state guns are for militia and not private ownership…and you state guns are a right of the individual….who decides which interpretation is correct?

      • TML

        Flashy says, “Instead of going through the process of the Doctrine of judicial review…and aside from Jefferson stating the SCOTUS may not have review, he never argued state courts lacked the power. And..ironic isn’t it that Jefferson followed the SCOTUS decisions?”

        You will have to be more specific. Exactly what SCOTUS decisions are you claiming Jefferson “followed”?

        Flashy says, “Here is a fairly good explanation of Marbury and judicial review. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review_in_the_United_States”

        From your own source – “The United States Constitution does not explicitly establish the power of judicial review.”. I will then refer you to the 10th Amendment, and its first ratification.

        “The powers NOT DELEGATED to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

        “The United States shall guaranty to each state its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is NOT by this Constitution EXPRESSLY DELEGATED to the United States.”

        Aside from the writing of Jefferson, here is a better explanation… http://constitutionality.us/SupremeCourt.html

        Judicial review upsets the balance of power between the other two co-equal and co-sovereign branches of government by assuming that one has the power to prescribe rules to the other two.

        Flashy says, “If I may ask…who decides what the Constitution allows if two or more parties disagree?
        if i state guns are for militia and not private ownership…and you state guns are a right of the individual….who decides which interpretation is correct?”

        As I understand it, it entirely depends on who the parties are and if there is actually a case to be heard. In your example, it is between you and I, in which, yes, the Supreme Court would have final say on that particular case IF it was an actual case in which you or I were physically, financially, or otherwise injured (or deprived of right) by our disagreement. You can’t go to the Supreme Court just to settle a general disagreement, or just check an idea or even an act of congress for constitutionality without a legitimate case to rule upon – to do so is the essence of judicial review. Yet, even then, their ruling is only for our specific case, and not necessarily a blanket ruling. I can use their past ruling to support my claims, as you are doing now, and as I would do if you argued the Constitution does not protect the right of the individual to bear arms, but these rulings are still NOT law. Future tribunals are not required to uphold past rulings as if they were.

        The Supreme Court is final arbiter in cases between individuals, between individuals and a state, and between interstate disputes.

        The only time in which the SCOTUS is not the final arbiter, is in a case in which the two parties are the federal government, and a state under the principles of nullification or secession, and the third principle of contract that I mentioned above.

      • Flashy

        “Judicial review upsets the balance of power between the other two co-equal and co-sovereign branches of government by assuming that one has the power to prescribe rules to the other two. ” <— TML

        Thanks for your comments TML. Interesting and food for thought. i don't agree…but you gave an very interesting line and perspective.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Flashy: Thanks for your comments TML. Interesting and food for thought. i don’t agree…but you gave an very interesting line and perspective.

        Another words, you forfeit the debate. Naturally, since you are no match for TML!

      • Flashy

        WTS…what gives that impression? I thanked TML for a thoughtful interesting commentary. I disagree, but it doesn’t take away he gave a well thought and well written comment.

    • http://midcontent range rider

      Obumbo is a wanna be world dictator, since he is a lap pooch for the UN, same as his brain dead frump Hillary.

      • Doc Sarvis

        If President Obama wanted to be a world dictator he would not have pulled combat troops out of Iraq (ahead of schedule), nor would he be pulling troops out of Afghanistan. He would also NOT go along with the Pentagon’s lower budget reccomendations.

      • rendarsmith

        Doc, who got us involved in Libya and Syria? Who is authorizing drone strikes in Pakistan and Iran? He allegedly pulled out the military from Iraq but did he pull out American civilians and corporations? Doubt it….

      • Doc Sarvis

        rendarsmith,
        Pulling American civilians and corporations out of Iraq would be a dictatorial and anti-capitalist thing to do. President Obama would never do such anti-American behavior.

      • rendarsmith

        Funny you say that Doc, since the whole point of these wars was to put them there in the first place….but that’s all Bush’s doing right?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Ignoring the low intellect and lack of respect for the nation shown by a cretin who calls the president Obumbo, Doc and rendarsmith say things that warrant a reply.

        Doc says, “If President Obama wanted to be a world dictator he would not have pulled combat troops out of Iraq (ahead of schedule), nor would he be pulling troops out of Afghanistan. He would also NOT go along with the Pentagon’s lower budget recommendations”.

        Correct, Doc. And you could cite many other pieces of evidence, but why waste the time? Truth is truth and just piling it up doesn’t make it any more true (although the folks who like to post lies on the site seem to think that “piled higher and deeper” DOES turn lies into truth)

        rendarsmith says “Doc, who got us involved in Libya and Syria? Who is authorizing drone strikes in Pakistan and Iran? He allegedly pulled out the military from Iraq but did he pull out American civilians and corporations? Doubt it….”

        Good points, r-man. Perhaps the behavior of the Libyans and Syrians and our position as a world leader got us involved in the rather limited way that we did? A lot better than chasing non-existent WMD’s as an excuse for a real war (by real, I mean many people dying). And have you been paying attention, R-man? Drone strikes are the “new” way of fighting right now, and the defense contractors get a lot richer making drones than they did making .223 rounds. Just like they got a lot richer by providing so many “contractors” and paid mercenaries to the two wars—-so many that they actually outnumbered the troops in uniform at one point. You are correct to doubt that O’Bama is “pulling out” as many as he might if he weren’t part of the “game”.

        PS When did we ever have a drone STRIKE in Iran? Don’t you believe “them” when they tell us that the one the Iranians shot down “malfunctioned”? And that it was only cruising along the border and doing a little harmless “sightseeing” when those vicious Iranians attacked it?.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        rendarsmith gets it! He understands that “the whole point of these wars was to put them there in the first place”.

        And then he shows that he REALLY gets it when he adds, ” ….but that’s all Bush’s doing right?” Not ALL Bush’s fault, R-man—-he was just the “front man” for Cheney and his corporate cronies (and he even had some help from the many Democrats who have sold us out as well).

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        RBT: Not ALL Bush’s fault, R-man—-he was just the “front man” for Cheney and his corporate cronies (and he even had some help from the many Democrats who have sold us out as well).

        Wow, i couldn’t agree more! And neither is it all Obama’s fault; Obama is just the “Closer”! The “idiotic” notion/claim that it is the fault of one President, or that the fault should be laid at feet of one particulat-party or the other, is a claim made by idiots, who haven’t the presence of mind to realize that the demise of our nation was/is a well orchestrated plot where “all”, political-parties were complicit, and that, from the top-down and bottom-up!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Doc: Pulling American civilians and corporations out of Iraq would be a dictatorial and anti-capitalist thing to do. President Obama would never do such anti-American behavior.

        I was under the impression that “progs” consider “Capitalism” to be evil, dictatorial and anti-american? Oh, i get it, only on American-soil is “Capitalism” viewed as; evil, dictatorial and anti-American, i get ya, Doc!

      • DaveH

        Doc says — “he would not have pulled combat troops out of Iraq (ahead of schedule)”.

        Then RBT says — “Correct, Doc. And you could cite many other pieces of evidence, but why waste the time? Truth is truth”.

        Ahead of schedule?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WYTKj8pU5M

        The actual withdrawal in December of 2011 was done because the Iraqi Government asked the US military to leave. See link in next comment:

      • DaveH
      • larry ryan

        Obama and, more accurately, his handlers, are following a carefully orchestrated plan to bring this country down and create a dictatorship and you dorks are argueing over how to LABEL it!!??

      • Kate8

        I imagine those in high office must laugh their heads off at the stupid way people argue about which POTUS did what.

        The truth is, they make none of the decisions. They take instructions from the uber-elite foreign banking corporations, and it doesn’t matter one bit which side of the fence they fall on.

        We waste so much time arguing about Obama this, Bush that. Good grief. We’re like a bunch of school kids fighting about whose daddy is best.

        Until the snake is cut off at the head, it doesn’t matter who takes elections. There are no real elections, anyway.

        Actually, from what I’ve been hearing under the radar, the cabals are being taken down…even have been taken down… And we are about to see some real changes taking place.

        What we need to do is to start thinking and acting like free people. They’ll keep up the charade as long as they can. It’s really up to us.

        For what it’s worth:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=paz5lEoxXrc#!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        DaveH says: “The actual withdrawal in December of 2011 was done because the Iraqi Government asked the US military to leave”.

        Really? “Asked” us? Are you sure that we wouldn’t still be there IF the Iraqis hadn’t made unreasonable demands on us? Ones that made it untenable for us to remain there?

    • vietnamvet1971

      The RAH, RAH, Cheerleaders are out in force Propping up their president. After all Oblammer has been claimed to be The “Savior” according to some of his Pitiful brain washed Programmed Idiots. Owipebutt can not wipe his own.

      • Motov

        It’s because OhBozo is really a puppet for those who want a one world government.
        It’s why he needs his teleprompter every time he lies to the american sheeple.

      • Paul Wells

        Well, after all, spokesperson for all black people Jamie Foxx said Obama …”was their lord and savior”. I mean…that’s enough to sway the case, right? Idiots, each and every one!

      • eddie47d

        Mr 1971 is neither a rational human being or even a Conservative so why do you troll this site. (nasty man) Motov can’t be much better with his old news Republican talking point about teleprompters and one world government. Hey that was H Bush’s baby! Then Paul Wells can’t comprehend that Foxx is a comedian who was mocking the Conservatives who claim that Obama is a Savior. I bagged the 3 stooges in one clean sweep and they will continue in their ignorance!

        • Motov

          And once again fast eddy is really fast,………asleep!

      • eddie47d

        I received plenty of sleep last night Motov but thanks for your concern. LOL!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Like I said, more Fascist than socialist, but they are really one in the same. Their goals are Totalitarian rule by them over you and me. That is of course unless you are one of them. Do you really think you are?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Ah, finally, somebody get’s it!!! You are absolutely correct, Capitalist!

      • DaveH

        It really doesn’t matter what they call themselves. If they Force their way on the people, they are tyrants.

    • Bill

      Doc, so you have been reading your socialist magizine?

    • DaveH

      Is Obama a Socialist?
      http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78330/

  • http://PersonalLiberty Donnie

    Is Wayne Allyn Root your hero?He is a big timer in Las Vegas.He loves gambling.Take advantage of fools.The republican mantra.You do it well Wayne.

    • Steve E

      Sorry you missed it, but Wayne Allyn Root is a Libertarian.

      • Flashy
      • Karolyn

        I thought Root claimed to be a die-hard repub. only recently.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        What the hell is a die-hard-repub? Is that the same as a die-hard-democrat?

      • Steve E

        A die-hard-repub is someone who is a RINO but doesn’t know he/she is. They vote Republican but don’t realize that the person they are voting for is a sociopath. They also despise Libertarians who are the true liberty lovers.

      • DaveH

        Well Steve, at least he has run as one in the past.
        What is a real Libertarian? Read this:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto.pdf

      • DaveH

        Flashshill posts his link to a credible article (that’s a joke).

        Sub-Title of Article:
        “It used to be liberals who wanted to remake society according to a theory. Now that’s the looney dream of the right”.
        Oh yeah, that’s Fair and Balanced.

        For the first 100 years of our Country’s existence, Government spent less than 3% of our GDP each year. The value of our money actually grew to double over those 100 years. The people could purchase twice the amount of goods and services that they could 100 years earlier with the same dollar.
        Then by 1910 Government Spending grew to 8% of GDP.
        Now Government spends 41% of our GDP.
        And what did we get for that? A Great Depression, a currency that buys 1/23rd of what it could buy in 1913, and now this current economic calamity.

        And they call those who know there’s a better way “looney”?

        What else? Name-calling and obfuscation is all they have.

      • Maryland Freestater

        Wayne is NOW a Republican – he gave up on the USLP this past fall.
        Premature departure methinks since Libertarians made great advances this past year. It will take a while but !VENCEREMOS!

      • Flashy

        “Then by 1910 Government Spending grew to 8% of GDP.” <– Davey boy doing a good job he has no idea what he's talking about.

        So we should itemize each area of the budget to reflect spending in 1910? A military budget of less than 15 of GDP? Transportation budget of less than that? Health?

        Davey…you use numbers to perpetuate a myth. i don't think you do it knowingly lying…i just don't think you have a clue or know what you're talking about.

      • Flashy

        OOps…15 should be 1%

      • phideaux

        “i just don’t think you have a clue or know what you’re talking about.”

        You certainly do not think Flushy you just repeat what your superiors (who pay you to write reports about what is said on PLD) tell you to.

      • DaveH

        Flashshill,
        Feel free to point out anything that I said which is untrue.

        Or you could tell us another Sniper Story.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        DaveH, would you mind providing the link to Flashy’s “Sniper-story”? I should like to read it once more.

  • http://midcontent range rider

    The democrat party only endorse the pond scum socialist/communist pukes. Remeember the registered comunist George McGovern that was picked in ’72., or FDR who appointed a registered communist as the 1st Sec of Ag. The big difference with the jug eared socialist is that he is a maddrass educated marxist. Read the sob’s books and see what a USA hater, anti capitalist, and anything abhorant to freedom, in short, a over paid a waste of space and waste of oxgen.

    • Elton

      simple and to the point. perfect description of our hitler. A terrible waste of oxygen. His whole administration….

      • http://www.octavioesquivel.blogspot.com octavio y cely esquivel

        I honestly respect all opinions. However in this case i find that the satement regarding the democratic party is universal with no solid bases. Might be the same point of view postulating Obama like a realcomunist….

  • http://yahoo claude rizzicone jr

    we have rights under the declaration of independence,but no one seems to want to use them,if no one stands up and come together,OH WELL.there are several charges that will
    put the majority of washington jail no one will act.

    • Flashy

      “we have rights under the declaration of independence” <— Claude

      Claude…just out of curiosity, how many "rights' do you think we have as stated in the Constitution? How many are total, without burden?

      • Steve E

        Here’s one…That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,…

      • Flashy

        Steve….just where exactly, is that “Right” in the Constitution?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Flashy, what in the world is a “Constitution”?

      • Flashy

        WTS…excuse me. So you are aware..the Constitution of the United States.

        Clear now?

      • Steve E

        Flashy, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution go hand in hand.

      • Flashy

        “Flashy, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution go hand in hand.”<–Steve E

        by the gawds above ,eyes rolling. … would you also include the Articles of Confederation? Or…how about old Archie comic books ?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Flashy: WTS…excuse me. So you are aware..the Constitution of the United States.

        Clear now?

        Oh, you mean that document forged by our fore-fathers that the “fascist-progs” consider to be nothing more than toilet-paper and fight over who, amongst them, should be the first to wipe his/her azz with? Oh, now i get ya…thanks for the clarification!

      • DaveH
      • DaveH

        Flashshill says — “Steve….just where exactly, is that “Right” in the Constitution?”

        It isn’t. That comes from the Declaration of Independence:
        http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/declarationcopy_en.html

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “by the gawds above ,eyes rolling”.

        Interesting that Flashshill brought up that common visual Liberal Progressive technique that is used to manipulate those with weak minds. But we must forgive them, because Facts and Logic is not their strong suit, so they have little choice but to use adolescent manipulative techniques.

  • Strongman

    Obama is terrorist!!!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      That puts him in company with most of our Presidents.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        And you want some “terror” from your president? Just wait until Hilary gets elected in 2106! (With Elizabeth Warren as her veep and Tammy Duckworth as the SecDef).

        At least Hilary’s post-menopausal, so we don’t have to worry about her having a PMS attack and doing something Un-American like rounding up all the wing-nuts and sending them to the FEMA camps. .

      • Right Brain Thinker

        OOOPS—-that’s 2016—–Hil and Bill will likely be around for a long time but not that long.

      • Motov

        Yup every president since 1913, when two things happened,
        1) The creation of the Federal Reserve
        2) Income taxes was passed (After altering the Constitution, so it would stand)
        We have been getting screwed since

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        You are correct, Doc!

  • http://firefox steve k.

    Not a socialist…a communist! Please read The Communist by Paul Kengor. Everything that Frank Marshall Davis(osambo’s mentor and possible birth father) espoused as a card carrying member of CPUSA is the exact plan obama is using today. Absolutely frightening!

  • http://yahoo.com Frank

    Wow!! Your quick!! I said this 4 years ago!! Wake up!! Now I believe he is a commie!!! You might figure that out in another 4 years!!

  • vietnamvet1971

    Now Allen you have went and done it, you have exposed and shone the Light of Truth on Liberals and their parade. So what will be their response? they will just keep talking and pretending that you are Lying and no one will believe you after all they are good at Disinformation, Distracting, Deceit, and playing word games. It “IS” what it “IS” according to Billie Bob.

  • innertrader

    Obviously Jeremy doesn’t run a business or have a clue! The simple stupidity is truly amazing…. but then again, history is full of it, simply look at Hitler’s supporters!
    When oBama bent down and kissed that Saudi’s Ring, it told me everything I needed to know about him….. and he’s proven himself many times over since then!!!

  • http://aol carsrus

    He’s a marxist-muslim SHILL!

    • Doc Sarvis

      HA!

      • Flashy

        Well…Doc, ya think we have a pattern ? let’s see…President Obama has so far this thread been termed a socialist, a Marxist, a communist, a fascist, a dictator, a Muslim, foreign born … so far though, i haven’t read of the FEMA camps, the UN plots, his child born of wedlock with an alien from another solar system, his plan to take the guns, etc….

        Am i missing some of the other “claims’ ?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Then by all means, humour us, Flashy. Who/what, do you think is an “Obama”?

      • Karolyn

        Also, the illegitimate son of Frank Marshall. Recently, I read on the Before Its News rag (Globe of the internet) that he was actually born in Kansas and there are some murders involved. The writing was so incoherent I couldn’t even figure out what the woman was saying.

      • momo

        Great comeback Sarvis, that education didn’t go to waste, did it?

      • Motov

        You forgot a pathological liar, everything about OhBozo is a sham, fraud, fake, and deceptive.

      • Flashy

        a socialist, a Marxist, a communist, a fascist, a dictator, a Muslim, foreign born, a pathological liar … so far though, i haven’t read of the FEMA camps, the UN plots, his child born of wedlock with an alien from another solar system, his plan to take the guns, etc….

        Motov…everything read OK now? Did i get the list? Do you concur with the FEMA/UN/Alien space baby references so I can include those in today’s list of rants?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Another words, Flash, you have absolutely no idea, who or what Obama is, do you?

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Obama is not a socialist. Obama is a “Fascist”!

    Obama and his minions in the administration as well as many Democrats and Republicans in the Congress are often described as Socialists, or in the extreme as Marxists. However, their actions and strategy are straight out of the fascist economic playbook. They have become the modern reincarnation of the fascist mindset, without the militarism of Italy and Germany, that dominated Europe in the 1920s and ’30s.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Over the past seventy years, the left and their allies in the media have succeeded in labeling fascism as a right-wing or conservative philosophy when it in reality was an offshoot of socialism.

      Socialism/Marxism seeks the total control of a society’s economy through complete state control of the means of production and income. Fascism seeks that same control, indirectly by the state domination of private ownership, as well as controlling individual income and wealth through taxation and regulation.

      Jonah Goldberg’s masterpiece Liberal Fascism convincingly demonstrates the progressive roots of fascism.

      Per Sheldon Richman in the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics:
      As an economic system, fascism is socialism with a capitalistic veneer. In its day (the 1920′s and 1930′s), fascism was seen as the happy medium between boom-and-bust-prone capitalism, with its alleged class conflict, wasteful competition, and profit-oriented egoism, and Marxism, with its violent socially divisive prosecution of the bourgeoisie.
      Where socialism abolished all market relations outright, fascism left the appearance of market relations while planning all economic activities. Where socialism abolished money and prices; fascism controlled the monetary system and set all prices and wages politically.

      Under fascism, the state, through official agencies, controlled all aspects of manufacturing, commerce, finance, and agriculture. Licensing was ubiquitous; no economic activity could be undertaken without government permission. Levels of consumption were dictated by the state, and “excess” incomes had to be surrendered as taxes or “loans”.

      To maintain high employment and minimize popular discontent, fascist governments also undertook massive public-works programs financed by steep taxes, borrowing and fiat money creation.

      Fascism is most often identified with Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, who not only took it to an extreme but used the basic tenets of this economic philosophy to finance huge armies and arms production in order to satisfy their militaristic and megalomaniacal ambitions. But the concept of a corporate state has been a staple of the American left since Franklin Roosevelt.

      It was FDR who initiated the National Labor Relations Board to make the government the final arbiter in labor issues.

      The National Recovery Act that governed all aspects of manufacturing and commerce.

      The Agricultural Adjustment Act, which introduced central planning to agriculture.

      Taxes were dramatically raised on the so-called wealthy and class warfare rhetoric accelerated in order to focus anger elsewhere and not on the government. Massive spending on public works projects was a centerpiece of the “New Deal.”

      Mussolini heaped praise upon FDR’s New Deal as “boldly…interventionist in the field of economics.” Roosevelt was not reticent in his compliments to Mussolini for the latter’s “honest purpose in restoring Italy” and acknowledged that he kept “in fairly close touch with the admirable Italian gentlemen.”

      Yet it is generally recognized today that by pursuing these policies FDR prolonged the Great Depression by another 5-7 years. (See Amity Shlaes: The Forgotten Man

      Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/obamas_fascist_economy.html#ixzz2GvEOTkM

      • Right Brain Thinker

        JAY starts out with the “warmup” at 8:13—-a not too contentious or complicated statement to get everyone’s attention. He then launches into a much longer and more subtly biased clip from a wing-nut site at 8:21. Good propaganda technique, Jay. I do think that you should have quoted this from the site as well. Once one filters out the obligatory right wing horsepucky about unions, Hollywood, and O’Bama-hate, it provides a perhaps more “fair and balanced” view.

        “A key characteristic of the reality of fascist thinking is rampant cronyism and corruption. Certain capitalists, wishing to ingratiate themselves with the state, are willing to fund the election of those in power in exchange for favorable government contracts and avoidance of regulatory wrath. Recently, much of Wall Street, Hollywood, the unions, major companies such as General Electric, and the super-wealthy such as Warren Buffett are willing to sleep with those in power and be used as props in any propaganda campaign initiated by the Obama regime”.

        “The Obama administration has, through the Justice Department and other agencies, behaved exactly as many quasi-fascist regimes in the past — almost all of whom have been governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect themselves and their friends from accountability”.

        And in closing, a few more Benito Mussolini quotes:

        Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.

        Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy.

        Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.

        The history of saints is mainly the history of insane people.

        If Mussolini were alive today, he would have to modify that first one just a bit by considering the concept of corporate feudalism. I think that his vision of fascism and the view of most of those back in the 1920′s did not reach that far towards the subjugation that we see coming today.

      • Bill

        It really amazes me to hear all of the liberals quote the media mantra of taxing the rich. They think that some smart accountant in the government will magically take the added revenue and apply it to our debt.

        The reality is that money will just be pissed away on other things and the debt will grow. The real way to raise revenue is to lower taxes which will increase investment in the economy and increase revenue. History has shown us that is what works.

        If you hear differently, it is just a BS story to sell you their ideas

      • Flashy

        “The real way to raise revenue is to lower taxes which will increase investment in the economy and increase revenue. History has shown us that is what works.” <— Bill on drugs

        Bill…there is a balancing point where the cost of operations of government in fulfilling the social contract and the benefits of that contract co-exists and balance the burden versus the benefits. Historically, 30-32% of GDP give or take.

        That number goes up when expenditures for war etc are required. We had two unfunded wars, a drop in revenues to close to 35% GDP, and a massive push of the policies begun under Reagan which raped the Middle Class and was, quite literally, redistribution of wealth from the Middle Class to the wealthy on a scale unprecedented in the history on Man. Add in the policies which caused the Crash of '07-'08 and you have what we face today.

        Can anyone argue that as we are deeper in debt, the benefits received by the Middle Class has shrunk 1981-present? Can anyone argue that the Middle Class has taken it on the chin since 1981? What segment of our society flourished during that period of time? (the upper income wealthy).

        Yes, spending has to be reduced, and revenue needs to rise. Both temporarily before we can pull ourselves out of the mess the Reagan and Bush II policies are negated.

        Now…if you listen to the GOP in Congress…their plan? Nail the Middle Class yet some more. Don't touch the wealthy. Continue the Welfare for the Rich policies, reduce any program designed to assist the Middle and lower income segments.

        Federal sending has flat lined during this administration. Check it out…spending has gone up less under President Obama less than any president the past 100 years. What hasn't been in the balance is revenues. Now we have the extremists stating that any further tax cuts need to be balanced by a cut in spending. Yes…and spending targeted at the masses…while the tax cuts need to be for the wealthy. More of the same formula which has crippled the REAL JOB CREATORS..the backbone of our economy…the Middle Class.

        bill … it's called reality … you should try it.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        RBT, me thinks you are too paranoid! In fact, you sound like right-winger…relax, take a deep breath, and stop assuming that your right-brain is always right.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        WTS/JAY says, “RBT, me thinks you are too paranoid!” Since you share many of the same thoughts as I do about what’s ‘wrong”, does that make you paranoid too? And if we ARE both “paranoid” on this topic, it doesn’t mean they are not really “out to get us”, as the old saying goes.

        Jay also says, “In fact, you sound like right-winger” Jay forgets that I have had this discussion before with many of the folks on the site. Maybe he will listen a bit more than many of them did when I say I am a true conservative in that I want to preserve the nation and AM a “right-winger” in that regard. That I believe in freedom, personal liberty, and capitalism more than the so-called Libertarians on this site.

        So many have gone running into the swamps of La-La Land on the extreme right because they have bought the horsepucky of the plutocracy and corporate oligarchs, leaving me standing right where I was all along (except that now I’ve gone from being “conservative” to being a communist-marxist-socialist-fascist—-you know, one of those “ists” that believes in one of those “isms” that the ignorant call me and talk so much about on PLD (and they DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE “ISM” and “IST” WORDS MEAN!)

        Jay also tells me to “….stop assuming that your right-brain is always right”. Not an assumption, JAY—-my “right brain” IS always right until someone proves that it is not—-when they do, I admit error, which is something that hardly anyone on PLD has ever done, certainly not some of the biggest “fools” on the site that are always responding to my arguments with smug name-calling.and meaningless references.

    • Bill

      Hi Jay,
      One thing we can say about Obama an his merry acadamians is that they are not economists as evidenced by the state of our economy. We know it could have been turned around in his first four years after we saw Reagan do it.

      Obama is either stupid or he has a plan to destroy capitalism. Take your pick

      • eddie47d

        Reagan did his part in giving the Banksters free reign which caused major problem. He also made those same Banksters accountable after the Keating Scandal. After Reagan the laws and regulations were loosened up again which once again caused our economy to falter. Terrible banking practices are often behind capitalism being washed down the toilet.

      • Flashy

        Reagan borrowed and spent his way out of the recession….actually, three under his regime if you count the post-Vietnam, oil shortage one we were coming outm of when he took office. .

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Eddie: Reagan did his part in giving the Banksters free reign which caused major problem.

        They all did their part and Obama is no different, except, he cranked it up a few notches!!!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      RBT: I do think that you should have quoted this from the site as well. Once one filters out the obligatory right wing horsepucky about unions, Hollywood, and O’Bama-hate, it provides a perhaps more “fair and balanced” view.

      Umm, that’s why i supplied the link, RBT, that way people could go to the site and read the article in its entirety, rather than use up space on the thread.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        WTS/JAY says, “Umm, that’s why i supplied the link, RBT, that way people could go to the site and read the article in its entirety, rather than use up space on the thread”.

        Ummmmmmmmm, SURE you did, JAY. Nice try, but you won’t get me to believe that you weren’t just doing a little of the “cherry-picking” we see so much of on this site. That’s why I pulled a little “antidote” to the “poison” from the very same article—-fair is fair.

        We ALL know that most folks don’t go and read these “sources”, especially since so many of them are dead ends like the von mises stuff that DaveH wants us to believe actually mean something. Tends to make folks say to themselves “why bother”? Of course, the fact that they have read the horsepucky in the first place and a little will stick to the wall once “thrown” is a plus fro the propagandist—-repeat a lie enough times and some will think it’s true. You know—-O’Bama is a Muslim—-O’Bama has issued 900+ executive orders—-O’Bama is a socialist—-it wasn’t Bush’s fault.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Hmm, you make a lot of assumptions about, and hurl many accusation at this mysterious “right” you claim exists. Where is this, so-called “right” you and a few others on this site keep ranting about? Now granted, there are “labels” people wear, or have been assigned, that may or may not encapsulate their world-view; but we should not haphazardly slap a derogatory-label on anyone simply because they disagree with us, don’t you agree? For doing so simply brings to the surface, your insecurities and your lack of proper judgment Of course, “labels” do play an important-role; they are blips on a radar-screen, however, they are limited, as they are not, and do not tell the full-story; and some, has been discovered, are in the habit of wearing them “under falls pretence”!

        Now, i understand your love affair with respect to Obama, and regard your back-lash and flailing-about in blind-rage at anyone who criticizes him, understandable; but this is not, proper behaviour displayed by someone who claims to have held a position of leadership in the education-industry. Surely, RBT, adding a different opinion to your limited repartee, i should think, would enhance your perspective, and not, as you fear, undermine it! Chillax dude, don/t be so insecure!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        WTS/JAY has thrown so much horsepucky against the wall here that they will have to sandblast him clean—-that’s because none of it stuck and he has got to be covered in it.

        JAY asks,”Where is this, so-called “right” you and a few others on this site keep ranting about?”
        And says “….but we should not haphazardly slap a derogatory-label on anyone simply because they disagree with us, don’t you agree?”
        And says, “For doing so simply brings to the surface, your insecurities and your lack of proper judgment”

        Lord love a duck, JAY!—-you can really sling it!

        Jay “understands (my) love affair with respect to Obama, and regard your back-lash and flailing-about in blind-rage at anyone who criticizes him”
        That rates more than a LLAD, JAY—it rates a LIAR and a DIRTY POOL because you are stating an untruth in an attempt to smear me—-page ? in the Troll Manual?—-I have perhaps said more anti-O’Bama things today than on any other day I’ve visited PLD. Stop lying—-it’s a cheap way to score points.

        And JAY thnks he is somehow qualified to make this judgment, “but this is not, proper behaviour displayed by someone who claims to have held a position of leadership in the education-industry”. Another attempted smear (or is it just mandibular diarrhea?)

        And JAY closes with smugness and condescension, the refuge of those who really have nothing to say and are just trying to get someone’s goat.. “Surely, RBT, adding a different opinion to your limited repartee, i should think, would enhance your perspective, and not, as you fear, undermine it! Chillax dude, don/t be so insecure!” Here’s a little “goat talk” for you—-GFYS, JAY. The “new” JAY is becoming less attractive every day. Do you really need the paycheck that bad?

  • http://www.ohsworld.com Ollie

    If you think that workers deserve a living wage you might be a socialist.

    If you think that the government should build bridges you might be a socialist.

    If you think that there should be FIDC Insurance you might be a socialist.

    If you think that the USA should more on defense then the next 13 competitors combined you might be a socialist.

    If you think that there should be laws against drunk driving you might be a socialist.

    If you think that the government should support the American agricultural community you might be a socialist.

    If you think that you should have roads to drive on that you did not personally pay for you might be a socialist.

    If you think that the government should have hospital districts in rural areas you might be a socialist.

    If you think that cities should have taxpayer paid for fire departments you might be a socialist.

    If you think that cities should have taxpayer paid for police departments you might be a socialist.

    If you think that taxpayers should support airports you might be a socialist.

    If you think that people should be taxed for football, baseball and basketball stadiums you might be a socialist.

    • http://www.ohsworld.com Ollie

      Correction

      If you think that the USA should spend more on defense then the next 13 competitors combined you might be a socialist.

      • Steve E

        The tax on football, baseball and basketball stadiums on it’s citizens that don’t use it is definitely a socialist act.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Steve E. It is fascism not socialism. Very similar except fascism has some private property, that is controlled by the elite few who are cronies of those in power in government. Read about how F.D.R. praised Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler for awhile before they were exposed as the monsters they were. He, like Obama, wanted to be the Dictator and actually was for awhile.

    • eddie47d

      Dang it Ollie we can’t have tax supported airports either which the business community greatly benefits from? That apparently makes it a socialist airport or according to Capitalist at Birth a Fascist airport.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Eddie: Dang it Ollie we can’t have tax supported airports either which the business community greatly benefits from?

        Same argument could be applied to wars, Eddie!

      • eddie47d

        Oh yes those much needed Military Industrial Complex wars! Barf!

  • John R. Howell

    It took Root a long time to figure out that Obama is a socialist; how much longer will it take for him to figure out that Obama and his minions Reid, Hillary and many others are communists and Nazis? By the way, the Nazis were socialists (communists) too, and the word Nazi is a contraction of the German word “Nazional Socialiste”. Obama is taking over this country more like Hitler took over Germany, rather than like the Bolshevicks took over Russia. John R. Howell

  • alboy5

    Lets not criticize Obama. Obama cant fix what he does not understand. He can only make it worse, and that is why he was re-elected.

    • Steve E

      The dirty little secret is that the ones that voted for Obama want to make it worse.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Obama is certainly an enemy of the free market, and he wants politicians and bureaucrats to make the fundamental decisions about the economy. But that does not mean he wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.

    What President Obama has been pushing for, and moving toward, is more insidious: government control of the economy, while leaving ownership in private hands. That way, politicians get to call the shots but, when their bright ideas lead to disaster, they can always blame those who own businesses in the private sector.

    Politically, it is heads-I-win when things go right, and tails-you-lose when things go wrong. This is far preferable, from Obama’s point of view, since it gives him a variety of scapegoats for all his failed policies, without having to use President Bush as a scapegoat all the time.

    Government ownership of the means of production means that politicians also own the consequences of their policies, and have to face responsibility when those consequences are disastrous – something Barack Obama avoids like the plague.

    Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the “greed” of the insurance companies.

    The same principle, or lack of principle, applies to many other privately owned businesses. It is a very successful political ploy that can be adapted to all sorts of situations.

    One of the reasons why both pro-Obama and anti-Obama observers may be reluctant to see him as fascist is that both tend to accept the prevailing notion that fascism is on the political right, while it is obvious that Obama is on the political left.

    Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely – and correctly – regarded as being on the political left. Jonah Goldberg’s great book, “Liberal Fascism,” cites overwhelming evidence of the fascists’ consistent pursuit of the goals of the left, and of the left’s embrace of the fascists as one of their own during the 1920s.

    Mussolini, the originator of fascism, was lionized by the left, both in Europe and in America, during the 1920s. Even Hitler, who adopted fascist ideas in the 1920s, was seen by some, including W.E.B. Du Bois, as a man of the left.

    It was in the 1930s, when ugly internal and international actions by Hitler and Mussolini repelled the world, that the left distanced itself from fascism and its Nazi offshoot – and verbally transferred these totalitarian dictatorships to the right, saddling opponents with these pariahs.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/is-obama-a-socialist-or-a-
    fascist/#dAz5UTqsO6Ej4g2H.99

    • Bill

      Detroit is the future of most major cities run by the merry democrats

      • nc

        Bill, I have seen some pictures of some mighty pretty places in Detroit! I can’t help but believe that the recent events that kept people on their jobs there will make it even better!
        Have you ever known of a big city, REGADLESS of the TYPE of government that controlled it, that didn’t have at least one surpressed )low income) area????I’m talking about cities throughout the history of mankind!! Who had the most ready supply of cash to fix it up and didn’t??? The local rich!! Enter the government ” to deliver a more perfect union’!! Demoocrats didn’t invent slums! They have been with us forever! If you don’t like them see if you can get the government to fix them!

  • Dagger

    America’s name should be changed to better reflect what it has become:
    The UNITED SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      I like The Corporate Feudalistic States of America better.

      If we were truly socialistic, we would not see the glaring income and wealth inequality that exists today. Nor would the corporations be “owning” the country—-it would be the other way around. And the greedy rich would not be able to steal from the 99% because there are no “rich” in a truly socialist state. Why are people so hung up on this “socialist” thing that they can’t see what is really happening? I again urge everyone to read Jesse Ventura’s latest book—-DemoCrips and ReBloodLicans—–for a good look at where we’re going.

      • DaveH

        That reminds me of an interview I read about with a cuban citizen who was railing about the class disparity in America. The reporter asked “but don’t your highest income earners have less income than America’s lowest income earners?”. The Cuban’s reply was “Yes, but they are more equal”.
        Ahh, you gotta love envy.

        • BR549

          The problem isn’t capitalism, nor socialism, communism, oligarchies nor autocracies. The problem is when those, who get a better handle within whatever system is in place, lose connection with their higher sense of purpose and continue to line in “the jungle”. The Warburgs, the Rockefellers, and Carnegie had fallen victim to it, although, apparently, Carnegie had a change of heart later on. Philanthropy should not be confused with answering a call to a higher sense of purpose.

          Perhaps at some point in the future, when leaders whom we trusted will no longer hoard wealth and resources for themselves or believe that they alone possess the genes necessary to pass on to future generations, maybe them socialism would just be just a name for a system of government. Capitalism is not by itself evil. Even a dictatorship can be good if the bottom line is the benefit of the people being ruled over.

          The problem is that so many people, especially the leaders, are losing faith, period. And if they don’t have faith in God or feel that they must be responsible to any other authority beside themselves, their egos take over and they can then justify doing anything.

      • DaveH

        Gross national income per capita using Atlas Methodology:

        Cuba — $5550
        United States — $47,140

        http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DATASTATISTICS/Resources/GNIPC.pdf

      • Robert Smith

        And the health care in Cuba is rated very close to America.

        Too bad not all Americans are covered, but all Cubans are.

        Rob

      • Flashy

        Robert…and don’t forget…aside from the US and Canada, Cuba is the most advanced of the Latin and South American countries. All with an embargo against it by the richest country on earth. Wonder what the S Amer/Latin countries would have if the US embargo’d their economies….hmmmm…

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Until recently, Cubans were justifiably proud of their health-care system. Life-expectancy matches that of Americans, who are eight times richer. Infant mortality ties with Canada’s as the lowest in the Americas. Measles jabs have been near-universal for more than 20 years, putting Cuba ahead of many rich countries.

        But Cuba’s crumbling economy has put this system under stress. Though the state still trains armies of doctors, a third of these are deployed overseas in “soft-power” missions. Pharmacies are generally ill-stocked. In many hospitals patients must provide their own sheets, food and dressings. Neglect of infrastructure means that almost 10% of the population lacks access to clean drinking water. The American embargo against the island does not help: equipment for radiology, mammograms and cancer therapy is hard to replace, says Julia Sweig of the Council on Foreign Relations, an American think-tank.

        Raúl Castro, the president, who this month visited China and Vietnam, is trying to revive the economy by cautiously transferring chunks of it into private hands. The next step, reported this week, will be to let transport and other service workers form co-operatives, currently restricted to farming. If the health service is to thrive again, this sort of economic surgery will need to speed up.

        http://www.economist.com/node/21558613

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert and Flashy, why hasn’t Obama the big-banana lifted the Embargo on Cuba as of yet? Either one of you two care two answer?

      • DaveH

        About Who’s Healthcare ratings:
        http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/bp101.pdf

        And so what if it was, Robert? Would you give up 7/8ths of your income to gain that healthcare?

      • Flashy

        “Robert and Flashy, why hasn’t Obama the big-banana lifted the Embargo on Cuba as of yet? Either one of you two care two answer?”

        Easy answer..the Cuban American vote in Florida. What’s ironic is if the embargo was indeed lifted … I’d say the existing Cuban government wouldn’t last more than a year or two after that. And i also think the Cuban Americans wouldn’t be welcomed back with open arms…

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        You lie, Flashy. The only thing Obama has done is loosen the “travel-restrictions” for Americans traveling to Cuba. He has done “nada” with economic/trade embargo! How do you live with yourself?

      • eddie47d

        Plain and simple Abolish the trade embargo! Should have ended about 40 years ago and should no longer be a political football.

      • DaveH

        Easy answer, Jay.
        He’s a Sociopaths. Sociopaths don’t have consciences.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        eddie47d says “Plain and simple Abolish the trade embargo! Should have ended about 40 years ago and should no longer be a political football”.

        “Robert and Flashy, why hasn’t Obama the big-banana lifted the Embargo on Cuba as of yet? Either one of you two care two answer?”

        Flashy says, “Easy answer..the Cuban American vote in Florida”.

        WTS/JAY says something that makes me think he didn’t even read what Flashy said, and again demonstrates that the new and “less rational” JAY seems to be taking over.
        “You lie, Flashy. The only thing Obama has done is loosen the “travel-restrictions” for Americans traveling to Cuba. He has done “nada” with economic/trade embargo! How do you live with yourself?”

        And of course, DaveH, in spite of the seeming lack of coherence in what JAY says, misses no chance to spout an inanity and says,
        “Easy answer, Jay. He’s a Sociopaths. Sociopaths don’t have consciences”.

        My two cents—-eddie and Flash have made some points about the Cuban embargo and its political implications that perhaps invites further discussion, and JAY and DaveH once again demonstrate their lack of seriousness by doing some of that “blathering” they like to accuse others of engaging in. Hypocrisy? Lack of self-awareness?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Lyndia says, “I would think that it would be the middle class who would become non-existent and only the upper income and lower income would be left. This would mean that you would see only the very wealthy and the poor remaining. The governing body of the country would be among the wealthy, while the poor would have no hope to move up to a non existent middle class”

        Yes, Lyndia—-you didn’t quite get what I was saying but you DO understand where the idea of “corporate feudalism” leads. It will be a more benign thing than in the middle ages—-all will be guaranteed a simple job, a roof over their heads, food, basic medical care, a minimal education, and even some vacations. Some will be allowed to become somewhat “middle class” because the bosses will need managers. But there will be no “moving up” as a matter of free will and hard work. The Plutocracy and Corporate Oligarchs will run things for the benefit of the corporate bottom line and the rich and they will determine what each of is allowed to do. They will be the “governing body” and the politicians and government we have today will cease to exist (or become some kind of figurehead). Not a pretty picture but we are well on our way there.

  • http://www.davidlerickson.com David

    It should be clear to anyone with a brain that Wayne Allen Root is an idiot. I’m so tired of blathering idiots hollering socialism or communism. That is the ultimate political red herring.

    Either get off talking stupid or just shut up because the idiots of the world buy this kind of trash talk. Problem with pundits these days is they can’t speak without using the old and tired gambit of denigration and name calling. Like a bunch of school kids, no better that the childish gamesmanship shown by Congress for the past 20 years.

    So here I am, rising to the bait, name calling with the likes of Root. If it weren’t for the fact that people actually listen to these charlatans (many make 6 and 7 figures feeding us this tripe) it would be laughable.

    You can do better, Root. Please try.

    • Steve E

      Looks like you are a socialist striking back. You thinking is beyond repair.

      • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

        Definitely … Not a socialist … just a small business owner who has been squeezed and became very cognizant of those stepping out on issues having the means to do something but deciding to stay on the side lines…. Root and the bunch would serve the cause better if they focused on reality and that being the eligibility issue and criminal activitity that has been documented…(e.g.. SSI # Passport College Transcripts ) …Let us not forget that Trump got a response when he pressed the issue and then he let it go..

    • Bill

      David,
      If the shoe fits, wear it

    • DaveH

      David says:
      “Wayne Allen Root is an idiot”.
      “I’m so tired of blathering idiots hollering socialism or communism”.
      “Either get off talking stupid or just shut up because the idiots of the world buy this kind of trash talk”.
      “Like a bunch of school kids, no better that the childish gamesmanship shown by Congress for the past 20 years”.

      Oh yeah, you gotta love the well-thought-out, factual, and logical remarks coming from the Liberal Progressives.

      • Flashy

        Davey boy …got an unread Mises link you want to put in for supporting your statements?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        I’ll take his Mises-links over your blathering any day!

      • DaveH

        I look to Mises for honest, well-researched, and well-thought-out commentary, FlashShill. We can expect none of those from you.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        We hear from WTS/JAY, “I’ll take his Mises-links over your blathering any day!” Be careful, JAY. You don’t want to get too close to Dave. The “new Jay” is much more effective than the “old Jay” and shouldn’t backslide into the swamp of ignorance that DaveH inhabits just to curry favor. And the use of “blathering” is getting rather old—-trite, adolescent (as Dave would say), and unimaginative—-that’s why you won’t find folks like me, flashy, robert, and GALT using it except when we are quoting the functionally illiterate..

        DaveH says, “I look to Mises for honest, well-researched, and well-thought-out commentary, FlashShill. We can expect none of those from you”.

        I have been researching Rothbard, Rockwell, and the Von Mises Institute (and Foundation) for some time now. Readers may recall how I caught DaveH in several instances of out right lying and misrepresentation in his use of mises links. Or perhaps you missed them since DaveH quickly ran for cover with his tail between his legs when exposed and refused to answer my charges. Most folks don’t seem to hold von mises in as high esteem as DaveH does—-quite to the contrary. I have saved a bunch of material for an appropriate time—DaveH having the nerve to talk about von mises horsepucky as “honest, well-researched, and well-thought-out” commentary rather than the propaganda that it is requires that I share some of my findings with you today. I hope you find this quote as informative as I did.

        “The Ludwig von Mises Institute, founded in 1982 by Llewellyn Rockwell Jr. and still headed by him, is a major center promoting libertarian political theory and the Austrian School of free market economics, pioneered by the late economist Ludwig von Mises. It publishes seven journals, has printed more than 100 books, and offers scholarships, prizes, conferences and a major library at its Auburn, Ala., offices”.

        “It also promotes a type of Darwinian view of society in which elites are seen as natural and any intervention by the government on behalf of social justice is destructive. The institute seems nostalgic for the days when, “because of selective mating, marriage, and the laws of civil and genetic inheritance, positions of natural authority [were] likely to be passed on within a few noble families.”

        “But the rule of these natural elites and intellectuals, writes institute scholar Hans-Hermann Hoppe, is being ruined by statist meddling such as “affirmative action and forced integration,” which he said is “responsible for the almost complete destruction of private property rights, and the erosion of freedom of contract, association, and disassociation.”

        “A key player in the institute for years was the late Murray Rothbard, who worked with Rockwell closely and co-edited a journal with him. The institute’s Web site includes a cybershrine to Rothbard, a man who complained that the “Officially Oppressed” of American society (read, blacks, women and so on) were a “parasitic burden,” forcing their “hapless Oppressors” to provide “an endless flow of benefits.”

        “The call of ‘equality,’” he wrote, “is a siren song that can only mean the destruction of all that we cherish as being human.” Rothbard blamed much of what he disliked on meddling women. In the mid-1800s, a “legion of Yankee women” who were “not fettered by the responsibilities” of household work “imposed” voting rights for women on the nation. Later, Jewish women, after raising funds from “top Jewish financiers,” agitated for child labor laws, Rothbard adds with evident disgust. The “dominant tradition” of all these activist women, he suggests, is lesbianism”.

        “Institute scholars also have promoted anti-immigrant views, positively reviewing Peter Brimelow’s Alien Nation”.

        That’s a quote from SPLCenter.org: Into the Mainstream Quite telling, I think, and calls into question anything that issues from von mises, as well as the credibility of someone like DaveH who seems to think that anything and everything von mises says or prints is another testament of the Bible.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Bob Livingston says, “Dear Right Brain Thinker, Your comment went to moderation because of the reference to the Southern Preposterous Lie Center. I normally don’t allow any information sourced to it to appear. We have exposed the SPLC’s lies here, including one they fabricated from whole cloth about me”. Bob then provides several links for perusal.

        I’d like to thank Bob for showing some honesty and admitting that he defines what “Personal Liberty” means for us. It apparently means that it’s HIS personal liberty he’s talking about—-the “liberties” he and whoever else he employs to “moderate” employ when they ban particular ideas from the site and put some of us on permanent moderation if we step on certain toes. I don’t know how he squares that with the 1st. Amendment but it’s his site and if he wants me to go away, all he has to do is tell me so—if he truly believes in personal liberty and the 1st. Amendment, he should allow GALT and I and others the same “freedom” that he does to those on the extreme right. Unlike other “visitors” to the site, my self-image (and for some apparently, the need for a paycheck) does not make me come here. And I would think the the handful of us that are in any way out of step with the “masses” of PLD posters pose no real threat. Perhaps I’m mistaken there, but an occasional snowball of truth thrown into the gates of hell isn’t going to “cool things off” for more than a split second..

        Bob also says, “It was let through moderation to expose you for who you are. Only a fool and left-wing shill would use the Preposterous Lie Center as a source of information”. I thank Bob for that also, and for the links to the various articles that actually “expose PLD and Bob for what HE is”—-I will say no more than to say that the SPLC is as legitimate “source of information” as PLD is, and it seems rather “weak” for you to go off in such a big-time way that you would ban all mention of them—if they are such a “nothing” group, why such a reaction?—-why wouldn’t you allow them to be mentioned and perhaps take that opportunity to remind everyone of how “bad” they are? I’m sure that many of the regular visitors to PLD would take the “hint” and attack any mention of SPLC.

        And the link to the Iowa Republican Party Platform?—-I recommend that to all that may have forgotten it or never seen it—-it illustrates nicely why the Republicans lost the 2012 election and why they will likely continue to fade into obscurity if they don’t fight the extremists in their midst..

  • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

    He was reelected because a large percentage of americans are extremely selfish,hung up on christian principles they espouse but do not follow,they are greedy,free loading moochers ….Oh ! and I forgot …THEY ARE INCREDIBLE STUPID…(Romans …”And while professing to be wise they became utter fools and lovers of money and lovers of themselves”….

    • Steve E

      God put soulless stupid people on the earth for a reason. It is to test the integrity of the intelligent people and to make sure that they don’t become stupid before they enter into the afterlife. Also the intelligent ones have to see stupid to actually know what stupid is.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dick.motta Dick Motta

        It is incredibly stupid to call someone “incredible stupid”.

      • momo

        I thought you were a basketball coach, Dick.

      • Steve E

        Look out for the grammar police!

  • ToughGuy1

    Obama and his Dem., Socialist narcissus minions out there causing close to anarchy of our true values moral character in our Country. Obama swore his first term of oath in Office President Of The United States to protect and uphold the Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies. His second swearing in oath of Office, should give him a guilty conscience. What a hypocrite! Destroying our Government of his ownself as being a modern day social dictator. The Queen, Assad, Castro,… .. many other’s that are in power at this time!

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      Tough Guy…. Did you forget? He is LIAR

    • mark

      Yeah, only Obama was elected twice legitimately (unlike George W.) and will step down after eight years after having failed to close a single newspaper, cancelled a single election, closed a single church, put hundreds of thousand of his political enemies in prison, or abolished private property in America. Yeah other than that, you’re right, he’s just like Castro.

    • nc

      Tough Guy, I totally agree! If we had never had all of those socialist Democrat presidents like FDR,HST,JFK,LBJ. Jimmy, Slick Willy who WERE ALL LABLED AS “SOCIALIST WHEN THEY RAN AND WERE EVERY BIT AS SOCIALIST AS Obama we would be the number ONE nation in the world! OH! WAIT A MINUTE! WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD AND HAVE BEEN SINCE THE FIRST ONE! THE BIGGEST “SOCIALIST” WE EVER HAD! FDR!!!
      THE CONSTITUTION WAS DRAFTED IN THE HOPE THAT IT WOULD CREATE A NATION THAT COULD HOLD ITS’ OWN AGAINST THE WORLD! NO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT WHAT SOME MIGHT CALL “SOCIALIST” CANNOT BE USED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITIZENS IF THAT’S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT AND/OR NEED! YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE THAT BUT IT WAS NEVER THE INTENT OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT ALL HAD TO LIKE IT!!!! IT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT PROVIDED IN
      YOUR YOUR CONSTITUTION A NUMBER OF TIMES! IS THAT NOT AS IT SHOULD BE??

  • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

    Root … is just another opportunist windbag …whose private jet is fueled up at all times and ready to go …. you can bet he will not be here when the [expletive deleted] hits the fan…. Maybe he will take that toe sucker Dick Morris with him…

  • mark

    Yeah this from the guy who said Romney would win in a landslide. The man has zero credibility and doesn’t even know what socialism is. Please

  • Nancy

    You are insane! We have always been a socialist democracy. I am insulted by your comments and want off your idiotic site. I was educated in a public school…most of us were including those who serve you! I am a union member and so was my dad and they are what built the middle class in this country and made us the envy of the world until the elites and their money came along and weakened those unions and cut things that made us great. Now you and your fools are turning us into a theocratic police state! Go tell your BS some fools that will believe you because it is folks like you that are trying to set us way back. Go look at tax rates from years ago including Ike. Then tell me who was a socialist. You are full of crap!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Where were you educated? This is and was a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Yes it has been heading down the Fascist/Socialist Path for at least 150 years. Unions, were and are a Communist idea. They are opposed to individual freedom and initiative. Evidently you are a Communist.

      • mark

        Yeah and evidently you have about six functioning brain cells left.

      • Opal the Gem

        Thats six more than you have mark. Your head is so hollow that when hit it rings louder than the cow bells at a Mississippi State home football game.

      • eddie47d

        Would that be 20 more than you Opal? LOL! Are you an old Mississippi gal?

    • mark

      Excellent points, Nancy. I like your style.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      but you are still a union member??? so shut the hell up.

    • Bill

      Nancy, good riddance

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Nancy: You are insane! We have always been a socialist democracy.

      Actually Nancy, we have always been a “socialist-fascist-democracy”!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Correction, we have been a “socialist-fascist-democracy” since FDR!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Nancy: I was educated in a public school…

      Enough said!

    • Bimbam

      Actually your way has brought socialism to America. Union GREED has destroyed this country.

      The better life has lead to the bitter life. We are reaping the consequences of UNION COVETING.

      Thou shalt not covet. Covet means you are relying on yourself and not God. It is a rejection of God, a vote of no confidence.

      Now we are in a debt that no one has any gumption of paying. We still have not seen the FULL consequences yet of UNION GREED.

      You think they were going to pay you extra for nothing? They pulled one on you, mam.

  • Suave

    Excellent Wayne, well said!

  • http://yahoo bob peters

    Obama is merely a puppet for the NWO..Daddy Bush,Bill homo Clinton and Hillary the brain dead witch,Jimmy the wimp Carter,Tim the tax cheat Geithner,Bernanke,Henry the toad Kissinger,etc etc are all one of the same….What about Van Jones now a commentator for CNN?? Al Gore?? Throw in John McCain, Madame Albreght,George Bush Jr.,Tony Blair,Sarkozy,Mayor Bloomberg,MSNBC,CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS,PBS,The NEW YORK TIMES, The Supreme court,Eric Holder, Maxine Waters,Barbara Walters,The View,Hollywood, to name a few and you can see why we are now a communist nation…Theres only one way to get the country back and that may be too late.You are about to lose your guns soon.A handful of dried up old elitists are ruining the country and we are letting them..George Soros is public enemy no.1…This maggot should be harassed in every way possible..The colleges have been taken over by marxists and our schools are subverted…Propaganda is the norm..The old guard is nearly gone and the young have no will power to take over.. Goodbye america…Yeah right,now you can call me a kook or whatever..I expect that from the indoctrinated.

    • 45caliber

      I heard this morning that Al Gore (Big Al) is selling his TV business to Al Jazzeer (however it is spelled). I thought that interesting.

      • nc

        45, I thought it was interesting also> I was glad to see Big Al kept it out of the hands of a bigger threat, Crazy, Crying Glenn Beck! When you are too whacko for faux noise you are ready for the coat with the arms in the back!

      • Flashy

        45…Current TV is a publicly owned business. Gore contributed to the start up funds for the business, but isn’t an owner.

        i think Al jazeera is going to lose a few hundred million on the deal, it doesn’t make sense in any economic way. There is no upside.

        Be that as it may….what is wrong with Al jazzera? FOX is way worse as far as relevancy to giving facts …

        • tony newbill

          Flashy you can’t even put Fox News and Al jazzera on the same Platform !!! That agency is ANTI USA to the max !!!

      • Flashy

        Tony…I know FOX is anti American etc etc. You state correctly. But i figured denigrating Al Jazeera by comparing them to FOX was a way to get my point across….

  • Old Henry

    Democrqt, Liberal, Socialist, Progressive – Simply different ways of spelling Communist.

    Arrest and remove the Communist foreign national Kenyan.

    • mark

      Never gonna hapapen, pal. He’s in the White House for four more years. Read your Constitution and deal with it.

      • Old Henry

        mark, I have read the Constituion and it states that you must be a Natural Born Citizen to be POTUS.

        If Little Barry’s “father” was indeed O Sr. then it is absolutely impossible for Little Barry to be a Natural Born Citizen. It is that easy to understand.

        If we had a Congress that had not been bought off they would have removed the Communist-In-Chief.

        From that standpoint you are correct. Since we have a bunch of spineless, bought and paid for stooges in Congress, it ain’t gonna happen, but I will not “get used to it”.

      • Flashy

        Old Henry….it certainly will be interesting to read the comments when Rubio makes a try for the WH in 2016. i predict this issue will ‘conveniently’ be forgotten by the extremist TP and American Taliban at that time …

      • Old Henry

        Flashy:

        I lost a lot of faith in some of the TEA Party last summer when they began touting Rubio for VP. And I emailed them as such, but have no idea if it got through.

        I believe that is one reason the Webubwicans have run away from this issue – they want the precedent in place for “their guy”.

        It may also be one reason Rubio made it clear he was not interested. Plus he did not want to be tied to a loosing team in Romney.

        Jindal is another one who is not qualified.

        I doubt that many on this site will “run away” from the Rubio issue in 2016 if it arises.

    • Old Henry

      Stop the presses!

      I have just found the next “president” for 2016!

      Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, the first Buddhist, the first Asian-American woman and the first Japanese-born person elected to the Senate.

      She has ALL the qualifications / qualities required! Looks like Hillary is outta luck, again!

  • Mrs. Miriam Sarmiento

    Barack Hussein Obama is a card in the game of The International Communist Organization. I strongly believe that he is communist and if not stopped, he guided by his camrades, will destroy U.S.A., our beloved country. Our children will live in communism. It is up to “We the People” that care about freedom and democracy, not to allow it to happen.God bless U.S.A. and the troops!

    Miriam A. Sarmientoi, Miami, Florida.

    • Bill

      Hi Miriam,
      You are right and a line has been drawn in the sand. The people that want socialism are pushing the liberal agenda or they are ignorant to what is going on.

      The producers of this country are seeing their rights eroded and are very aware that economic prosperity is not in the liberal agenda.

    • Old Henry

      Miriam, that is exactly why the Communist Party USA soundly endorsed Obama for POTUS.

      He was spawned by communists, raised by communists, educated by communists, mentored by communists and began his political career in the home of two communist domestic terrorists who blew up building in the USA and killed American citizens, but…. that was Bush’s fault.

  • Walter77777

    President Obama is no socialist or Communist. I am a socialist (of sorts), and I do not recognize Obama as any sort of socialist. He, like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, recognizes that compromises must be made to preserve the Existing Order.

    Merely having a small class of Very Rich People is not really destabilizing to society. Merely having many Poor People in a society is also not really destabilizing, but in a society where there is a relatively small class of Very Rich People and a large class of Poor People who remember that things were better for them in the past and have little hope of things getting better for them in the future society will be destabilized.

    I do not imagine that a socialist society will be much happier than a capitalist society, but by refusing to make compromises the Ruling Elites are making Socialist Revolution almost inevitable.

    W.

    • Old Henry

      Walter, at least you admit to being a communist. Non of the other ones who wanter through here will not.

      Do you enjoy living off other people?

  • tony newbill

    Most socialist politics are based in the art of the ” Bait and Switch ” …..

    I thought the Tax rate was only going up on 450,000 incomes and up but thats Not what it says here on the Whitehouse website ???

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/01/02/seven-things-you-need-know-about-tax-deal?utm_source=email191&utm_medium=text1&utm_campaign=middleclass

    • tony newbill

      The increase in marginal tax rates, moving up from 35 percent to 39.6 percent, takes effect at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for couples, but other provisions in the bill will affect individuals making $250,000 and couples making $300,000, specifically restoring old limits on personal exemptions and deductions. This story explains:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/your-money/piecing-together-a-tax-plans-effects.html?hp

      • mark

        You mean they are secretly raising taxes on those poor couples making a measly $300,000 a year! Oh my God, someone should put a stop to this! Maybe we could have a telethon of them all? Forget those starving children in Africa, we’ve got to do something to help the truly oppressed – couples making over $300,000 a year! If Obama has his way they’ll all soon be paying the same percentage of their income as those overprivileged and coddled janitors, coal miners, and factory workers! What is this country coming to?

      • tony newbill

        Mark the point is they said they agreed in public like Obama was giving into the first demand about the threshold being 250 K and instead they agreed to a 450 K threshold but this was not the really case but it plays good on the TV while on the whitehouse website to keep the Base Happy the Obama administration says 250 as the same limit as he campaigned for like He never deviated from his word , so this is the bait and switch of it all and its amazing the tunnel vision that people have by not looking at the whole picture that is reported !

      • Old Henry

        I would like to know why it takes a piece of legislation 154 pages long to keep tax rates where they are currently fixed.

        Lotsa Pork, ya spose? Pay back fer his donors? At…. our expense?

  • http://RootforAmerica.com Wayne Allyn Root

    To: Teddy Maher
    From: Wayne Allyn Root

    Sorry to disappoint you Teddy. I have no private jet. I’m a small businessman. Only liberal politically correct environmental windbag hypocrites like Al Gore have private jets- which incidently do more to pollute the universe in one flight than I can do with my car in 20 years.

    Obama’s biggest contributors are the private jet owners and yacht owners. And CEO’s of multi-national corporations. That’s why they support massive tax increases. Taxes don’t take much from the super rich. They already have their $100,000,000. Taxes are used to keep the rest of us down- they kill the competition for the super rich. They keep the rest of us from ever saving or investing enough to become super rich.

    Small businessmen like me are always fiscally conservative because we understand that tax increases are never really aimed at “the rich.” Not enough money there, too few of them. Taxes are aimed at hurting small business- where most of the money is. Obama is like the famous bank robber Dillinger. He goes where the money is.

    Teddy you are so ignorant. The people with private jets who make $20 million (or much more) per year are either Democrats…or opportunists who give to both sides. They are crony capitalists who support bigger government- because they make money off it with stimulus, bailouts, corporate welfare, and government contracts.

    Small businessmen like me …I’ve NEVER in my life had a government job or govt. contract of any kind…are true conservatives who believe in capitalism, not crony capitalism. We understand that only small business and the private sector can save us from this horrible Great Depression.

    It’s interesting that the Obama’s of the world are always aiming their tax increases at $250K to $500K per year small business owners.

    Wayne

    • mark

      $250K to $500K per year small business owners! That’s really funny, Wayne, because all the small businessmen I grew up with never made anywhere near that kind of money! Also Obama’s tax increases, which 60% of the American people support in poll after poll, are all aimed at people who make over that amount. And all the money they earn below those ceilings are paid at the same tax rate as everyone else. You may believe your own propaganda, like that election call of yours, but no one else does.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        mark: Also Obama’s tax increases, which 60% of the American people support in poll after poll, are all aimed at people who make over that amount.

        The percentage of those who favour Obama’s tax-increase is “47%”, marcus!

        • tony newbill

          They say the S & P returned a 13 % gain for 2012 … and it was based in the Inflation areas of the food industry and NOT in the Supply expansion of this sector where True Value can only come from , so we have entered a New willingness to consider ANY kind of Growth as Acceptable and I guarantee you this will lead to Capitalist Collapse as the Union between Multi national Corps and Governments in the world continue to consolidate into the Massive Plutocracy that is being formed on a International Bases !!!!

          This 2 % hate the Rich thing is just a diversion from what is really taking shape !!!

      • Old Henry

        mark, It’s the spending Stupid.

        If the income “tax” is going t exist it is time the parasitic 47%ers began paying their fair share.

        • tony newbill

          Its the Biggest formation of international Plutocracy EVER to have Rose up !! Its the 10 Toes of the Beast !!!
          This will not stop its rooted in the very sin of the 7 that is the root of all evil …. ” GREED ”

          Sins Counter balance and bring and end to evil every time , yes it takes the good down with the bad but it is a cleansing process that cannot be stopped .
          GREED is like Obesity , its Unsustainable even for the Powerful in the Material world of Life .

      • Paul Wells

        Mark, that’s gross, you idiot, not net! Take a freakin’ business class, and learn something!

      • http://facebook DUH

        You are so right Mark and we the people who are low and below the rich have to survive to wipe the butts of the rich. Without us what would they do?

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Taxes mean nothing to smart businessmen because they will find ways to avoid them. No congress ever wrote a tax law without loopholes. As they write them, their finding ways to avoid them. We’re the target, not them and their cronies.

  • 45caliber

    There are a number of reasons that the USSR went under. One of the big ones was paying everyone (except the Communist leaders of course) the same pay. Why bother to work hard to produce some thing when the man (woman) next to you is getting the same pay for doing nothing? Production drops off to nothing, no income comes in, and the economy drops.

    One thing about USSR I always thought funny: The men laze about in the factories while women work parties are sent out to do the hard work of railroad track repair, filling in pot holes by hand, etc. Maybe it was just easier to bully the women into working hard.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      As long as the people find their system of government profitable to themselves, the government will survive.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      It was because of gender wars not unlike what is played out in America now that men are no good, who needs them, they are sexual predators and perverts and that women can do any jobs so who needs men.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dick.motta Dick Motta

    If you are a socialist and want to rule by Executive Order you may be a Communist Dictator.

  • emma

    And if you think any of this is true, you are definitely an idiot!

    • Margaret

      And if you don’t you are deaf, dumb and blind educated socialist. The writing is on the wall, but I’m guessing you probably never read the bible either.

  • Humpty Dumpty

    After reading the discourses here, one has to wonder if there is any sanity and courtesy left in human interaction. Apparent put downs and insults, one after another–no responsible nor intelligent discussions that add to how the USA/we can extricate iourselves from the place we obviously have created by many irresponsible choices on the parts of many over the decades, which we did nothing about. And, most still don’t want to wake up and smell the coffee! Or, at least that’s how I assess it.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      No, Hump, there isn’t much sanity or courtesy evident on many of the PLD threads. Some are much better than what you see on this one, though, and most are much more palatable in the early stages when they have only a few dozen comments posted. Once certain folks appear and the comment count goes up to 200-300 and beyond, you may as well move on.

      Having “responsible (and) intelligent discussions that add to how the USA/we can extricate ourselves from the place we obviously have created by many irresponsible choices on the parts of many over the decades” is not a priority for many of the folks on this site, just as it is not on many of the other right wing-nut websites that I refer to as the “circular firing squad”. You can find sanity and courtesy much more easily on most of the centrist through middle-left sites if you look for it. Even the far left sites are better—-they tend to do a lot of childish name-calling, but their arguments and discussions are more “sane”.

      You say, “And, most still don’t want to wake up and smell the coffee! Or, at least that’s how I assess it”. You are right on target with that assessment. I don’t recall seeing many postings from you before, but if you spend much time on this site, you will find that certain topics (among them guns, O’Bama, and raising taxes) bring out the “motivated reasoners” who don’t want to do anything but talk to each other in order to reinforce their own beliefs and the beliefs of those that agree with them. Anyone who doesn’t subscribe to the “group think” is called names, communist and socialist being quite popular.

  • Colonel[P] Charles Von Minoskovitch

    I am a highly educated[Ph.D and 2 post doctorate degrees]former US Army officer[O6,Colonel] who agrees with this article. The problem in this great country is, that many people like yourself are not given the true facts and based on your response, appear to be ill educated or ignorant,probably by no fault of your own, since the media is pro OBOZO, and this may be all you have to make a decision or form an opinion on.Read carefully the info contained in the article,it is well documented and very articulated.

    • Margaret

      Thank you Colonel. Well stated. The truth is here and everywhere, but twisted and hidden by the media that has become as socialist as the ruling party along with our educators if you care to call them that.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Margaret says, “Thank you Colonel. Well stated. The truth is here and everywhere, but twisted and hidden by the media that has become as socialist as the ruling party along with our educators if you care to call them that”.

        Poor self-deluded Margaret. She attempts to land some blows but strikes out, probably because she didn’t pay attention to those educators who were trying to rescue her from a life of ignorance. And she thanks the Colonel, even though the Colonel says some things that might make one think he isn’t “real”.

        It DOES sound real when the Colonel uses the (P) after his name to signify the special status of “promotable”, (even though some would say the P stands for “presumptuous” when used here in this way amongst civilians that don’t give a rodent’s behind about military “status”). I for one would also like to know the origins of the “Von Minoskovitch” name—-there must be some interesting history behind that Germanic-Russian blending.

        I am always wary of those who state up front that they are “highly educated”, particularly when they tell us that they have spent enough time in the Army to advance to the rank of Colonel (P), which likely takes around 20 years AND have still found time to obtain a Ph.D and TWO post-doctorate DEGREES. What are those degrees in, Colonel? Medicine?, Law?, Psychiatry?—-there aren’t many awarded “on top of” first Doctorates, other than research degrees. And did you spend all your time in the Army going to school on the taxpayer’s dime?

        After giving us your impressive and quite difficult to obtain credentials, you tell us that you “agree with this article”? Anyone who agrees with the following quotes from the article can’t be serious when they claim to be “highly educated”. Need I explain why?

        “If you think Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar of ABC’s “The View” represent the moderate wing of the Democratic Party, you might be a socialist”.

        “If you’re a Columbia University professor and you ever gave a student named Barack Obama an “A” in economics, you might be a socialist — and you shouldn’t be teaching economics”.

        “And finally, in the 8th year of the Obama Presidency, if Bangladesh is hosting “Aid America” concerts, we definitely have a socialist President”.

        Not to pile on, but in the opinion of this E-3 grunt, it is beneath the dignity of a COLONEL (P) to refer to the commander-in-chief as OBOZO—-just another thing that makes me wonder if you are real. If you are still on active duty and this is your real name, it seems rather UNeducated to make such a statement—-your commanding officer might not like it and you might lose the (P) if he finds out.

        (I’d be glad to tell him about it. One of my most effective techniques as a school administrator for bringing self-important O-4′s and 0-5′s back to reality was what I said to them when they said things to me in a conference like “I’m a taxpayer and I pay your salary, and if I don’t get satisfaction I’m going to speak to your superiors”. My reply to them was along the lines of was “Well guess what? First, I’m a federal taxpayer, and I probably pay more of your salary than you do of mine out of your puny local taxes. Second, I’m a bit concerned that you are coming in here and talking like a fool rather than dealing with the problem. I may just call YOUR commanding officer and let him know that I am concerned about your judgment and fitness for command”. Didn’t have to do that too often, and I’m glad of that because the reaction was always blood draining from the face and a look like they were having a heart attack—-that concerned me. My next comment was always “Are you ready to start over and talk some sense?” They always did and we always got the problem solved. I never had to use that trick with an 0-6 or flag, though—-they always came in the door as just plain parents and never tried to pull rank.

        It also seems rather UNeducated to say this article is “well documented” (it’s not), and let me also point out that the backbone of a snake is “very articulated” but the language you use here is not.

        All in all, Colonel, I don’t think you are who or what you say you are and you should apologize to Margaret for misleading her. I’ve done a bit of surfing and have found only ONE hit on your name, and that’s a comment you posted on another PLD thread within minutes of the one Margaret thanked you for.

        Colonel[P] Charles Von Minoskovitch says:
        January 3, 2013 at 10:35 am
        I think the dim witted, anti gun spewing liberals in this newspaper[journalistic junk]should have had a better idea when hiring protection, hire a protection agency that arms their guards with cross bows, which are effective at close range,are silent,and the arrows cost very little, since they are probaly made in China. Also, blood splatter is kept at a minimum, which reduces cleanup time and complies with some governmental health regulation in regard to airborne blood pathogens. See, easy fix, and NO GUNS.

        That comment doesn’t sound particularly “educated” either. What’s an “anti gun” and is it possible for some liberal to “spew” it? And “journalistic junk”? And crossbows? And a “Made in China” reference?

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      The Foundres tried to avoid that by keeping government out of education. They knew that any government is an opinion and if the government controlled education, it would control the opinion the people had. Lenin said: People think in words and how they interpret words is who they are. Let us invent words and change the meaning of words to mold the people into what we want. Benjamin Franklin said: I paraphrase, The strength of the State lies in the intellectual level of the people. ONLY WHEN IT IS COUPLED TO THE MORAL EDUCATION. Intellectually, I’d say Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Obama and their ilk are very smart.

      • http://facebook DUH

        …and who died and made u King Mr. Christian?

  • Jim B

    The United States government plutocracy has created a bureaucracy beyond anything imaginable just a few years ago. Make no mistake, the new government for the people, by the people is now a corrupted, inept criminal organization whose primary function is to usurp the earned income from the citizens of this once great nation. This lawless organization, the one we call government, is the worst of the worst, more ruthless than any known mafia or terrorist organization, more corrupt than any Ponzi schemer could have ever devise, and the largest extortionist organization ever to exist or be imagined. This is the state we now live in, this from a country that had no equal just a few short years ago, whose liberties and freedoms where the envy of all the world. And now, we rank 17th in the world’s freest nations. In summary, we have 16.5 Trillion dollars in US debt, which has run out, the government, in the first of the fiscal year is operating on pure credit i.e. stolen from worker pensions to pay for the socialist bureaucracy created by themselves, for which no one benefits. We are no longer the land of opportunity, the land of the free, we have allowed that title to be expunged from our history and we will suffer dearly for that grave misstep in our travels. God help us, for it will take a divine intervention to stop the tyranny that has bestowed itself upon us.

    • S.C.Murf

      Amen, even our evil leaders know what the bible says is going to happen, and they apply that knowledge to what their game plan will be. We will need divine intervention to turn us around. The great thing is the fact that divine intervention is on the way, praise Jesus!!!!

      up the hill
      airborne

  • KJQ

    Obama is a muslim. He has worn a gold band his entire adult life (which he re-used as his wedding ring) inscribed with “There is no god but allah” in Arabic. He finds that marxism methods work equally well for establishing the new Caliphate, so he is using them.

  • BR549

    Wayne wrote: “And guess what conclusion I’ve come to? Barack Obama is a socialist.”

    Jeez, ya think? The problem isn’t that he’s a socialist; it’s that his minions still don’t know how to spell the word.

    As Harriet Tubman said, “I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.”

  • AWKingsley

    Good article Root! Now, would you please do the same for George Bush – No. 43? Republicans keep voting for these incompetent RINOs because they do not get analyzed by our own party in the same way we analyze the Democrats. So far Bush was much worse than Obama. And, If we do not start analyzing him, we will get another Globalist Socialist Bush – Jeb in 2016 – No. 45. Horror of horrors to have the drug king pins back again who have nothing but self-interest in mind. We could end up “With No Child Left Without a College Degree” so that some undernourished younger generation Bushy could sell an educational program to upgrade inept students – a la Ignite, Inc. The reason the Republican Party is such a mess is that we are not introspective.

    The Republican Party also needs to recognize that some of their solutions and stances are ineffective or downright dangerous. The war on drugs helps to produce a Police State that is ineffective at monitoring and handling criminality because in Socialist countries criminals just pay off the police, and ordinary citizens are the ones who are monitored. In Russia Organized Crime comprises 40% of GDP.
    2) The “Right to Life Movement” that started back in the 1970s has 40 years of ineffectiveness to its credit. “The Right to Life Movement” was initiated by Communists who did not want Christians controlling the purse strings; thereby, stopping the Communist’s immoral goals. He who controls the purse strings has the power, not he who shouts about immorality to the roof tops in vain. Only if Christians vote for a return to State’s Rights will they regain control of the purse strings. Then they can stop funding for all bad life-style choices. But, you return the Liberals to State’s Rights with a message of ‘Freedom’. Stop butting heads with them.
    3) It is one thing to defend Israel, but quite another for the U.S. to attack pipsqueak Middle Eastern countries ostensibly for Israel. Israel is the most well defended country in the world. They can take on all of the Middle East. And about all of that terrorism in Israel – Israel has 4.7 murders per 100,000 while the U.S. has 5.9 per 100,000. The main reason that our Globalist Socialist Federal Government is involved in the Middle East is not to protect Israel, but to protect the Petro Dollar (U.S. Dollar) as the World’s Reserve Currency. We refuse to keep a stable U.S. Dollar, continually devaluing our fiat currency, and as a result, we have to defend the U.S. Dollar with wars in the Middle East to make Arabs keep using the Petro Dollar for the oil trade. It means over 1/2 trillion dollars per year to the U.S. to keep the Petro Dollar as the medium of exchange for the oil trade. In other words, we are engaged in wars for “Blood Money.”
    However, there is another point to address here that Republicans do not seem to understand. Many Democrats are not so much a group who are in favor of entitlements, as they are anti-war. Democrats want to spend for entitlements but not wars. It is the reverse for Republicans who do not want to spend for entitlements but are enthusiastic about spending for wars. This is why Democrats believe Republicans are heartless and cruel. If you were a young person, would you want to fight kooky wars in the Middle East over maintaining the U.S. Dollar as the World’s Reserve Currency when we caused the devaluation and debasement of the U.S. Dollar ourselves? The answer is a resounding “NO”. Many believe the wars are over oil, but even if they are misinformed to some degree in another way they are not: Both situations are about “Blood Money”. Would Republican Old White Guys and Old White Nannies be so interested in wars if they were the ones who have to fight them? “NO” But since Republican parents and grandparents are so enthusiastic about sacrificing their children to yet another war, would-be Republican young people vote for a Democrat candidate, in order to have their parents IRAs confiscated and eugenics for their elderly parents. The children of Republicans are unintentionally retaliating in kind. Tit for tat! This situation reminds me of Johnathan Swift’s instruction to the Irish during the Potato Famine: Eat your children. When Republicans stop sacrificing their children, their children will stop voting for their financial destruction and eugenics. How is that for a fair trade? Until Republican Old White Guys and Old White Nannies stop this idiotic charade, I’m with the young people: Take everything they have, and kill them off. The children of Republican parents who vote for Democrats are a whole lot smarter than you give them credit for.
    4) With the exception of Ron Paul and Rick Perry, all of the Republican candidates had major flaws, enumerated here as divorced, thrice-married, lying lobbyist, and lying “flip flopper”. When Republicans stop running RINO candidates who have bad character, they can win elections. Many voters are now on to the game of candidates playing the “Christian Card” to win elections. Candidates who loudly proclaim their Christianity have major flaws to overcome: Bush – alcoholism and criminal allegations (closer relationship with Mexican Drug Cartels than with American citizens), Santorum – lying lobbyist, Gingrich – thrice-married, Romney – lying flip flopper, Clinton – amoral. My granny always insisted, “Christian is a Christian does”. Republicans need to leave the bad character behind when they select their slate, if they want to celebrate the day after the elections instead of crying as so many report. Supporting candidates who start off with negatives to overcome doesn’t make sense.

    If Republicans want to win elections, we need to establish a base criteria and strategy for electing candidates that actually works. Every single issue that is a “Hot Button” for Republicans is solved by a return to State’s Rights, putting control of the finances and social issues back into our own backyards on the state level. Voters can have much more impact on the state level than on the national level. Most Republicans do not understand this concept, and are staunchly refusing to take back their power. Republicans have an enormous education problem on their hands, if they want to win elections. But first, we need to establish a base criteria for Republican candidacy, then go from there to a strategy. The means to our goals is through State’s Rights and freedom. Evangelical Republicans are gulled, scammed, and used over and over again. Before the 2016 election, Evangelicals need to be exposed to a massive education effort to get them back on track.

    • http://facebook DUH

      Thumbs up to you!

  • war111

    To: Mark
    From: Wayne Allyn Root

    Mark,

    Your reply shows your stripes. You are a Socialist. You hate people that make $250K to $500K per year. You want to punish them for daring to achieve success. Pure jealousy and envy. What you fail to realize is that over 5 million small business owners in USA make over $250K per year- that includes entrepreneurs, professionals, independent contractors. And they create 75% of all new jobs. And almost 100% of all startups that energize the economy. They are the economic engine of America. And if you choose to keep demonizing and punishing them…they will leave. Just as they’ve left California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Michigan. You are killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Once we leave (or should I say “escape”) from you jealous envious economically-ignorant liberals and socialists…turn out the lights, America is over.

    Because it’s our money that pays for the taxes and consumer spending that keeps America running.

    You are so small-minded. You think punishing us by raising taxes works? Did you know after UK passed a millionaires tax last year 2/3rds of all millionaires disappeared? Millionaires a year ago paid 9% of all taxes in UK. After new “millionaires tax” they pay 4%.

    Same thing is happening right now in California.

    Your liberal fantasy world is a gigantic failure. It will never work. Never has anywhere in the world. Over-tax “the rich” and you get economic disaster. Ask Greece, Spain, Italy with 25% unemployment, over 50% unemployment among the young. How come high taxes aren’t working? How come France has had over 7% unemployment for 30 consecutive years? That was before the 75% tax on the rich. Now they are all packing up and leaving- even the rich liberal hypocrite actors.

    Good luck. Obama talks a big game…but he never created a private sector job in his life…either before or since becoming President. Keep bad mouthing and punishing $250K to $500K small business owners. Then say goodbye to jobs and the American Dream.
    Wayne

    • mark

      But they are not small businessmen, Mr. Root. They are wealthy businessmen who call themselves small businessmen to give off this Mom and Pop, ambience and gain sympathy from the often clueless public. Real small business people earn an average of $87,000 per year and will not be affected at all by the tax hike. Also one of the main reason people go into business besides to make a good living for themselves and their children and to fulfill an aspirational desire that is perfectly legitimate and indeed laudible – is to shelter income and avoid taxes. There are all sorts of ways that small business people can do this both legally and illegally vs. the average worker who gets a paycheck every week with deductions already removed and no options to hide income in a variety of creative ways that business people enjoy under the current tax code and a system in which they are often paid in untraceable cash. We all know this but it is the truth that dare not speak its name. Tax avoidance.

  • Jim

    Poor Robert. Bless your little heart. You’re just one heartbeat away from knowing the real truth.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Yes, but his love for Obama blinds him from the truth. Just as many were blinded by their love for Bush. These poor people live a desperate and torturous existence!

  • http://www.octavioesquivel.blogspot.com octavio y cely esquivel

    I belive that the state function to set up a judicial system after the original presentation of the american constitution has evolved by the influence of the common sense of human rights that originaly in practis had been ignored or negelced for good reasons of the identity of original america as a nation.
    I also belive that the world conflict of the economic and political issues of comunism and capitalism on their extreems are both socialy and humanly wrong.I think that social justice for human beings by natural law makes a lot of sense. I belive that is necesary to consider the ideas of justice viewing the both meaning of justice the right to be owner considering as a right based on the maening of conmuinitative and distributive justice necesary in the society for the well being of all citizens. I think that in this matter the democracy makes a lot of sense and the honest way to make it functioning according with the esential bases of reall democracy.
    I think that the people electing representatives is responsable to help the goverment to keep up the equilibrium in the society in all area of the well being of the nation and some how of the whole world..It is to bad if Obama might be a comunist like might be if Rommney would be a radical capitalist. I think that the negative aspectos of both realities should be avoided and the balance of capitalism and socialism in te positive aspect of both realities coul be the solution of many conflicts no allowing the peace and justice in the society….

  • edmond davis

    I think he is not a socialist, but a fanatic communist

    • eddie47d

      He’s not much different than all the other crony capitalists!

  • deerinwater

    Root say; “If you think George W. Bush adding $4 trillion to the National debt in eight years” ~

    I say; If I’m not mistake , George W might have left office but the things that he bought in those 8 grueling years, we continue to pay for to this day.

    And what’s the problem with being seen as “social”? Do your prefer unsocial people? I would not think that very many of us would enjoy that.

    W’s administration left the Hill and the world in a serious mess. ~ Arrogance, Ignorance and Neglect had ruled supreme for 8 long years.

    and now, with the GOP mounts a concerted effort to block any and all of Obama efforts to clean the mess up, ~ you say, that he is taking too long and spending too much money too do it? I think that you are play down the devastated condition the world was in by January 2009 as well are the long comeback trail we still struggle with to this very day.

    If McCain had his way, we’d still be in Iraq today. How’s that for leadership and thrifty thinking? He wanted another US East Berlin occupational force in Baghdad.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      George Bush knew that the people never replace their leader in times of war and he capitalized on the fact. To say that Obama’s worse than Bush is wrong. One’s just as rotten and ungodly as the other. They each pushed the people to the extent could in their times. Obama’s just showing he far he can push the people and that remains to be seen.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Deer: I say; If I’m not mistake , George W might have left office but the things that he bought in those 8 grueling years, we continue to pay for to this day.

      Bush was just a front-man, an employee, Deer, no different from Obama. If you think Obama is going to pull us out of this “Miasma”…well, i don’t think you honestly believe that…do you?

    • deerinwater

      Jay says; “Bush was just a front-man, an employee, Deer, no different from Obama.”

      Know doubt about it Jay ~ I just happen to believe that the people behind W’s self interest over rode their national loyalty and patriotic pride more so then the people behind B. Obama.

      To defend a conservative position with what little W left you to work with too defend , ~ suggesting W Bush and Obama are the same ~ is about the best you can do with hopes that other’s might see it the same way. ~

      Nice try though Jay.

      But clearly, ~ your are right with regards ~ it’s not just one man but an Administration and who’s got their ear.

      W Bush Administration got something on America that grandma’s soap won’t wash off. Try as we may ~ that was 8 years that just won’t wash, anyway you attempt to look at it.

      Never in the history of man has such great military might been used so ineffectively. Never has so much money and resources been squandered and little gained. (with a single exception, ~ R&D of military field equipment and armament which is priceless)

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        But you didn’t answer my question, Deer. Do you believe that the current administration under Obama, will turn things around? So far, and it has been 4 yrs, nothing has changed. In fact, things have worsened. Now i understand it takes time to dig oneself out of a hole, but you don’t do so by digging yourself deeper?

        You say: Never in the history of man has such great military might been used so ineffectively. Never has so much money and resources been squandered and little gained. (with a single exception, ~ R&D of military field equipment and armament which is priceless)

        I disagree, the engineers/orchestrators of the so-called, Bush war, profited immensely. Of course, not so for the American people.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        May I butt in, JAY?

        Our only hope is that the current administration under Obama, WILL turn things around. If it doesn’t happen, there is little hope for the country. Certainly not from the obstructionists on the right, who have spent the last 4 years doing such great damage to the country.

        You say, “So far, and it has been 4 yrs, nothing has changed. In fact, things have worsened”. Easy for you to say, much harder for you to prove—-many things HAVE gotten better (or at least not gotten worse) and it’s hard to predict what MIGHT have happened IF this or that did or did not happen. (Just as it’s ridiculous for so many on this site to so firmly state what WILL happen if O’Bama does this or does that)..

        “Now i understand it takes time to dig oneself out of a hole, but you don’t do so by digging yourself deeper” is certainly true enough. The question that needs to be asked is “WHO is digging us deeper?”. The answer is the majority of those we elected to do the right thing for the country—-unfortunately,too many Democrats have “gone over” to the dark side and joined the Repugs who have been working for the last 30+ years to turn the country into a corporate feudal state..

        You are right on with the thought that “….the engineers/orchestrators of the so-called, Bush war, profited immensely. Of course, not so for the American people”.

        Those “orchestrators/administrators” are still hard at work. One needs only to look at the huge amount of money that Wall Street and the corporations contributed to the 2012 campaign, the vast sums spent on lobbying, the failure of the FEC to regulate campaign spending, and the failure of the SEC or anyone else to prosecute or otherwise hold accountable the crooks behind the recent meltdown to see evidence of that. The plutocracy and corporate oligarchy marches on—-it’s “business as usual” while the fools keep drinking the “Obama is a socialist” koolaid and participating in the circular firing squads.

        By the way, are we all aware that ALL of our individual postings on any thread on PLD are available with a quick google? Google “Wake the Sleepers (Jay)” or “DaveH” or “Right Brain Thinker” along with “Personal Liberty Digest”—–you will get many thousands of hits on each of those. (Comes in real handy for anyone who is “researching” the posting habits of someone on the site).

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    A socialist? What is a socialist? The word Society relates to creatures that band together for their own well being. Socialism is the method they do it with. Socialism can be one of two things, voluntary or involuntary, America was a voluntary socialist system. That means we take care of our own, without the governments involvement. Salvation Army, churches etc. Then we have an involuntary system. That is when the goverment takes the peoples wealth from them and doles some of it as they plan the peoples society. The idea of live, liberty and property in that the people become the property of State, graded as assets an liabilities to the state. Involuntary societies can be fascist (private ownership / government controlled) or Communistic ( government ownership / goverment controlled) Obama has shown himself to be Communist. All communist leaders are narcissistic, love of self comes first.

    With time the American people have come to accept varying degrees of involuntary socialism. To what degree? Will they come to their senses before it’s to late? Is it to late? Democracy enters the picture. Simply put the majority dictate to the minority or, as Benjamin Franklin put it: “Two wolves and sheep deciding what’s for lunch”. Democracy and freedom are two words Satans people relish. I’ve explained democracy, Freedom has a line through it, the freedom that a moral people have and the immoral and amoral freedoms that people take. Moral freedom is Liberty, a gift from God. It is because God gave us liberty, we have to form governments. As long as the government is bound by liberty, we could have a heaven on earth. But! this government is immoral, amoral and loathes the peoples liberties. Patrick Henry cried out “GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH”. Liberty has a price. Assume responsibilty for our ourselves and our actions and we don’t want to do that. You don’t hear that because the people are accustom to involuntary socialism. God knows that but he has prepared a place for people who will. It’s summarized in John 3:16

  • HKaufman

    Once again Wayne Allen Root, i wave my private parts in your general direction, seems this is the Rhetoric being posted and comprehended. Getting real tired of this [expletive deleted] and asking the same question, WHAT DAM BRANCH OF THE DAM GOVERNMENT CONTROL THE DAM SPENDING .. IF I see one more dam reply of the President you need to have your citizenship revoked.. Where was all the concern when the Texas Inepto bird was crash the economy sure got the borrowing urge quite often. Lastly if you read this Article from Rooty toot toot, One isl in big trouble.

  • TIME

    Dear People,

    On differant note, I have a question: yes ~ I am very serious on this question.

    Before I ask this question, Let me say that I work / worked in and with music for nearly all of my life.
    I hear vibrations at the root, tone, as in whats called {” Perfect Pitch”} Its a beautiful gift that GOD gave me.

    On that note my question is as follows:

    Is there anyone who has been picking up very strong {“low level vibrations” } as in everywhere all the time?

    Have your pets been acting very odd over the last few day? As in acting totaly strange, even more so than anything you have ever wittnessed from them before. as if they know something is going on that we just can’t see.

    I ask this as I have had since January 1, 2013 a very strange feeling one that I can’t explain any other way ~ than its a “VERY LOW level vibration” as in so low its more of a feeling not so much a sound thats audible, but ~ yet its audible.

    I have found each day now for the last 4 days its getting stronger every day.

    Any feed back from persons who may also be feeling this I would appreciate it
    Thank you in advance.

    Peace and Love, Shalom

    • Karolyn

      My neighbor and I have both noticed over the past few weeks that our dogs are more clingy and “needy” than they’ve been before. One of my dogs is pushing for affection a lot, which he never used to do. I’ve seen no noticeable change over the past few days.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Come to think of it, i noticed the same behaviour from my cats. They don’t seem to be as aloof. More friendly, or emotionally needy than usual.

      • Karolyn

        That’s really interesting. I’m gonna see if I can find any info on like experiences lately.

      • Karolyn

        Can’t find anything other than anecdotal info going back of animals acting strangely prior to major phenomenon, which is a well-known fact. I’m sure if this behavior is precipitating something, sooner or later, we will find out.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Karolyn: Can’t find anything other than anecdotal info going back of animals acting strangely prior to major phenomenon, which is a well-known fact.

        True, but as the norm, only a short time prior to the major phenomena; about a couple of days or so prior.

    • kkflash

      Yes, I have noticed this in our dog lately, too. She is constantly under foot, and when my wife leaves the house, the dog has recently started camping in front of the door by which my wife left the house. I find this new behavior both strange and irritating.

    • TIME

      I Thank you both for your comments,

      Here is the second part of this equation, I have had two very strong recurring dreams that started in 1994, since then I have noted these dreams in my daily journal, for year after year, . over the last 12 months its now been daily..
      But the Vibration is new I have not felt this until around November 2012, but since January 1st its gotten ” VERY strong “.

      The first dream is a dream of numbers and symbols & very dark color’s like deep red, deep purple, these colors all covered with golden figures within, plus the number
      { 1 / 20 / 2013 } On everything.
      I don’t see any events for January 20th 2013 that stand out. anyone know of anything going on for this date?

      The second is I am somehow in a bubble above the earth looking down, what I see is mass fires burning and people hacking each other up, there are broken electric wires and such dangling, broken windows everywhere, people with up streched arms crying..

      I see a figure like a sprit being very translucent, that some how folds into a tall thin man and they become one – above this man is the number { 1 / 20 / 2013 } this is on pale gray backround, with a fire place and pictures that look very old on either side of this fireplace. there are a number of people all standing around in Black robes with their eyes glowing red in color, they are chanting or something of that nature.
      The sky turns from blue to gray, the clouds turn from white to black, the earth looks dark.

      As to our pets, my dogs are glued to my legs we have 9 cats, they are all acting just totaly Bizarre

      Thats why I am asking others if they are feeling this vibration, its very dark and evil feeling, you know that feeling when the hair stands up on the back of your neck?

      Again I thank you both for your imput.

      Peace and Love, Shalom

      • Karolyn

        That feeling is what I am trying to elevate my vibration to overcome TIME. About 10 years ago I was in a discussion group and we were talking about the general negative vibes felt that appeared to be strengthening. That was 10 years ago. There are a great many people working to overcome that negative energy.

      • Karolyn

        PS – I do not dream very vividly. If I were having your dream, I would not want to remember it!

      • TIME

        Dear Karolyn,

        I can’t make them go away, let alone most every dream I have that I recall and make note of has some message within.
        My first contract was in a dream I had two years before it happened,
        My first car was in a dream, and oddly it unfolded just as my dream.

        The day I picked up my 1959 Les Paul Standard, I dreamed of it a year before and had it nailed down to the day, the hour, and the guitar was the very same to include even the nick on the cutaway. I dreamed about the beautiful woman who would become my wife one day while I was running down the beach with snow falling, and oddly I had a dream about that run 3 years before I even met my wife, let alone moved to Long Island.

        All the homes I have ever owned I dreamed about years before I owned them.
        I do dream in vivid color and recall most everything within the dreams, down to smells taste, and even textures. I have been this way for as long as I can recall.

        I have found very few people who have such dreams, but as you have to take the good with the bad. Thats just the way it works out.
        Most people who really know me – tell me I am an old soul with a child like facade. Children for some odd reason love me, so to do animials and old folks.

        At 62, my Doc said I am in better physical condition than 95% of the 20 year olds she see’s let alone other Doc’s have as clients.
        So its a trade off, I look young, act like a big child, and yet I have dreams that would cause many to not want to sleep.

        Peace and Love, Shalom

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        TIME, you should change your name to “JOSEPH” (the dreamer). Or it may just be that we are in the “last days”.

        “‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams”. Joel 2:28

      • Karolyn

        Some people just have a better connection to the Ultimate Reality/Universal Mind. We all have it and many believe it can be increased in anybody if they take the steps to do so. TIME, you are very fortunate to have this ability. I have friends who have it too.

  • Ed

    Actually, the correct term is communist. Anybody who utters the words “redistribution of wealth”, and believes that’s a good idea is a communist, because that is what communism is.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Ed if you support having roads and bridges or libraries or a defense force or medicare or medicaid or social security or any thing that is in any way funded by tax money you are supporting redistribution of wealth because that is precisely what it is. The taking of money from one area and moving it to another. Taking it from one and giving it to another.

  • Donna

    You claim Obama is a socialist, a communist,a muslim, an african, he’s black, he’s white, and not quite bright, he cheated in college, but was president at harvard Law school, he’s ran for election twice and got elected twice. For all of you who knows whats wrong with the country, the policies, the taxes, etc, etc., etc.

  • JimboJ

    This is undoubtedly the most ignorant piece of crap I have ever read.

    You, Wayne Allyn Root, have no idea of what socialism is. Get a life, stupid

    • Bimbam

      I think you have an idea what socialism is but have no idea how it WORKS!

  • Lyndia

    Motov says:

    January 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    Nixon got us OUT of a war that LBJ started.

    I have to disagree with a portion of your statement. LBJ DID NOT START THE VIETNAM WAR…it had been going on since the early 50s and continued on until the mid-60s’ when Nixon signed the Paris treaty. I do remember a good part of that & the Korean War since many in my family were fighting in both of them and carried/carry the scars to prove it.

    • http://midcontent range rider

      LBJ also with his mug ugly hag made millions off the Veit. war, with an exclusive contract of transportioning military supplies.Of course it is just more BS from the socialist/communist demorats. The biggest difference between LBJ and onumnutts, is LBJ never passed a whore he didn’t like just like Whorehound Clinton, and LBJ didn’t beleive in gun control, and was not educated as a muslim pedophile worshipper, or was a rug scrubber.

  • http://ournationsfuture.com Gloria Fay

    While not all responders here agree, we are all entitled to our opinions. I believe that Obama has divided this country worse than the Civil War and will continue to do that if something doesn’t change. If we don’t, we will be in the minority and have no chance to take our country back.

    I want my country to stay strong and be with God. I want our elected representatives to have humility and turn toward God for answers. To start turning away from all their greedy, power seeking ways and act to save our country from the spending death it is headed toward.

    To that end, I have made an effort to help. I have created a petition, “Reduce spending & pass a balanced federal budget” to send a message that changes are needed and here is where you need to start. I ask that you visit the petition, sign it and share it, so maybe we can make a difference. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/budget-and-spending-reduction.html

    Thank you.

  • flipped54

    What are you all so worried about? You all drive on roads that are built by US, the government. Would you rather that you maintain your own part of the street and hope that your neighbors do too? They may only have a gravel or dirt road where your part of the street might be paved or vise versa. Now how would that work? Our country is still pretty darn good but needs a lot of improvement and I mean for everyone. Not just for those who demand singular rights and ignore the rights of others. There has to be compromise even in a capitalistic society. One can not do what ever he/she wants while hurting others. Its called law….and we all participate in some form of socialism, or has Root forgotten that he also drives on public roads, uses public utilities, is protected by police and military that are paid for by all of us, not just him.

    • LindyMaeUSA

      “Socialism is a philosophy of FAILURE; the creed of IGNORANCE and the gospel of ENVY. It’s inherent virtue is the EQUAL SHARING of MISERY!! ~Winston Churchill

      “It is, what it is!” and even WORSE than Socialism is JUST AROUND THE CORNER so get used to it, America!

  • Gary Belote

    to Robert Smith
    The reason that our healthcare costs are so high is that 14 million illegals trapse down to the ememrgeny room and get everything done. Vaccinations, flue shots, kids runny noses ect. The cost gets tacked on to everyones helathcare cost. In 2008 the estimated cost of
    illegals in the U.S. was 878 BILLION dollars. Extrapolate that over 15 years and subtract from our national debt.

  • Joel

    The bottom line is: Not only is barak a socialist, but many, or most of his followers are too. They have never seen a true socialist country like others have. We are in just the beginning, and it will avalanche when there are more on welfare than those of us that are paying for them. Then the welfare stops, and the riots for food, etc. begin. Death will be wholesale.Let’s hope that the socialists on welfare are the ones to be shoveled into a hole first, so the smarter people can pull the country back together.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gmallast Gary Mallast

    I desperately want to do a series of videos on the history of socialism going back to Plato’s Republic and the prototype socialist terror state of Jan Matthys and Jan Bockelson (John of Leiden) in Munster in 1534-35 through the long list of failed socialist states, mush headed idealists, and sociopathic tyrants like Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Jim Jones etc. But I need funding. This is a serious proposal. My website is http://www.linkedin.com/in/GaryMallast.

  • http://midcontent rande rider

    flipped, the roads were just up graded trails, the trails were built by counties and private citizens. he government just widened a wasted tax payers money with mandatory union medddleingLook at any union mandated area, and see theover runs and just general fkups by worthless screw offs. The only reason idoits join unions, is because they can not get paid for what they can do, either to whimpy. stupid or are too worthless. Just like the most book trained morons who spout BS they rote spout. No experience or real world work!

  • http://theconservativecrawfish.wordpress.com reelman1946

    Of course he is! I told that to people in 2008…
    why is it people ignored his books, his parents, his mentors and his voting record! Why?
    =====

    Let’s see…the 2013 arrogant apostles of utopian secular socialism now have:
    abortion won,
    homo marriage won,
    borrowing 45% of money to run the country,
    God gone or mocked,
    monster debt,
    Welfare breaking all records by a mile,
    socialized medicine,
    taxes going up up and away for most all,
    nationalized student loans..
    900+ Exec Orders/30+ Czars to bypass congress,
    open borders,
    inflation hidden but growing,
    lower incomes for tens of millions,
    a housing crash,
    printing money we do not have,
    50 million on Food Stamps…

    AND ALL WE CAN HEAR NOW IS “he seems to be a socialist”…daaah

    BE VERY AFRAID..they are not half finished with trashing America.
    =====
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch the pantywaist Repubs are still in a fog cowering and scratching their heads month after month…
    hey, the utopian secular socialists worldwide for decades have spread their naturally toxic policies that rot any nation using the same 4 tactics…bold lies, demons, distractions and smears. Wake up, this is OzBama daily…this is the dimdem party daily…snap out of it…99% of what they say or do involves these (unchallenged) tactics…grow up America.

    The huge negatives are the Repubs with no swift “response team” to bold lies/smears and being way too timid with their language…also the pawn media does not challenge OzBama so its no wonder why the bold lies get traction. No wonder at all.

    Its only been 4 years…LOL…how slow can Republicans be?
    This is a socialist street thug at heart, a virtual dictator with 900+ E Orders and 30+ czars UNCHALLENGED for 4 years. Hello, hello, may day may day.
    (theconservativecrawfish)

    • Right Brain Thinker

      reelman1946 says, “Of course he is! (A Socialist) I told that to people in 2008…” and trots out a list of things that supposedly “prove” his point. R-man naturally includes those things that are “Bush’s Fault”, like “…monster debt, lower incomes for tens of millions, a housing crash, 50 million on Food Stamps….” because R-man is a good parrot and refuses to acknowledge that much of our present situation is due to the Bush tax cuts, two unfunded wars, and the general BORROW and spend policies of Reagan and Bush rather than what O’Bama has done to try to repair the damage.

      R-man is even foolish enough to bring up one of the biggest lies ever told about O’Bama—-the 900+ EXECUTIVE ORDER BS that has been shot down more times than Snoopy was by the Red Baron (Curse you, those who speak truth and shoot down the ignorant!).

      Let’s try one more time to set that record straight —-O’BAMA HAS ISSUED AROUND 140 EXECUTIVE ORDERS, not 900+. That 140 one of the LOWEST numbers of any president. Many of the executive orders that the circular firing squad sites were frothing at the mouth over because O’Bama was “a socialist trying to be a dictator” were actually NOT issued by him but by previous presidents. O’Bama’s use of “czars” is unremarkable as well when compared to other presidents. The truth is out there on legitimate websites.

      R-man also talkis about “…bold lies, demons, distractions and smears”. Unfortunately, in his mindless parroting of what his masters want him to say, he gets it backwards. The tactics he refers to have been the ones used by the RIGHT from the Day of O’Bama’s election in 2008. Fortunately, the voters did “Wake up” and realize that “this is Liars on the RIGHT Daily”, snapped out of it, and sent Head Liar Romney packing.

      “…99% of what they say or do involves these (unchallenged) tactics…grow up America.
      The huge negatives are the Repubs with no swift “response team” to bold lies/smears and being way too timid with their language…also the pawn media does not challenge OzBama so its no wonder why the bold lies get traction. No wonder at all”. Again R-man gets it twisted around more than a bit—-I wish he would explain the logic behind “bold lies get traction”. That’s only true among the self-deluded motivated reasoners on the right who WANT to believe any lie that agrees with their delusional beliefs. The job of the media is to see that lies do NOT get traction, but rather that the TRUTH is widely spread (except for Faux News, of course). And I agree that the Repugs have been way too “timid” with their language. Step it up, Repugs! We need more Akins and Mourdocks and insane TeaParty obstructionists telling it like it is! Show the voters who they should send packing in 2014—maybe the Dems can take back the house and the country can move FORWARD for O’Bama’s last two years.

      As far as the ignorance displayed by “This is a socialist street thug at heart, a virtual dictator with 900+ E Orders and 30+ czars UNCHALLENGED for 4 years. Hello, hello, may day may day.” (theconservativecrawfish) R-man needs to crawl back into the muddy water under the rock of ignorance with theconservativecrawfish and let the country try to put itself back together. The forces of hate and ignorance tried to destroy the country for O’Bama’s first four years and got rejected—-THEY LOST—-too bad they can’t “wake up” and realize that..

  • S branch

    You might be a moron if;

    You think Obama is the first socialist pres.

    Woodrow Wilson’s name does not put you in a fit of rage.

    You think oil distribution has nothing to do with the embarrassing state the USA has been in for a century.

    You think social security is not a socialist scam installed by tyrants directing the nations interests.

    You think the graduated income tax is a constitutional legislation.

    You think the federal reserve is not a self endued financial suicide.

    If that does not help remove the blinders, you deserve all of this, moron.

  • Greg

    “Barack Obama Is A Socialist”

    This is news????? Marxist any way you view it. Any thing he does is fixable, he is only the prince of fools. The fools that put him there is the greater concern.

  • http://yahoo sylvia

    Mr. Root,
    very well-stated! unfortunately, the masses are not able to see the destruction of this nation.

  • http://yahoo sylvia

    just a note on gun ctrl issue: FBI crime statistics show that more people are killed with clubs and hammers each year than by rifles or shotguns. yr 2011, there were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders were committed with hammers and clubs. there were 356 murders in which a shotgun was the deadly weapon of choice.

  • http://knightspyder.wordpress.com cedarridgefarmsinc

    Why is he only trying to band guns is my question. Knives kill too even a fork can kill someone. The president from day one has been after our right to bare arms because that is what his elite friends told him to do or he would not be elected for another four years. Everyone talked bad about President Bush when he was in office but you say one thing bad about Obama and they send a hit sqaud out after you. This punk wacko job that killed those little kids didn’t even own a gun but somehow it is all the gun owners now that is to blame. Responsible people do not kill other people unless their lives are in danger and then and only then would they pull the trigger too kill another person. I feel that this boy had help in killing those children and teachers, I know it is hard for the American people to believe that our government would stoop that low as to kill inocent children and a few adaults just to take away our gun rights, but look in the recent past the killings that have taken place too see just what I am talking about. I feel these have been false flag operations from the begining just like out in Texas in the theater. All this reminds me of what Hitler done to get everyone on his side for the natrocities that he commited when he was in power. He attacked Germany first, his own people and I do not see any differance in what our president and his appointed officials are doing now. The American people are blinded just like the German people were during Hitlers reign. Not everyone is blinded from what I am saying but the majority of the population is. President Obama could be a good president if he only wanted to be, his hands are tied by the people that put him in office that has the big dollars. Some of us know these people but most of Americans don’t and probably don’t care. The United Nations is our biggest problem right now, they have been a thorne in our side for many years and they are the one’s that have been after our right to bare arms for many years now. Once the Americans have been disarmed then they can get down to the business at hand and end our sovereignty once and for all. To have a one world government they have to end our sovereignty because that is what is standing in the way of the New World Order. Once the 2nd Amendment of our constitution is out of the way then the rest will fall like a house of cards. This sad day is coming in the next two years or so and Congressman Ron Paul say’s the end of our nation is beyond the point of no return. I believe when China and Japan ask for the money that the United States owes them returned back is when we will know for sure our country is gone and there will be no turning back. Nearly 3 trillion dollars is what we owe just these two countries alone and they will not be asking payment in dollars, its going to be gold. Fort Knox is empty and the gold we had stored at the world trade center nobody knows where that gold went too, which leaves us at this to ponder for now, I do know that the government took what gold we had stored away on a train out west to the “midway point” and put it in a abanded mine, then use dynamite to seal it shut. What will we do when they want their money and we cannot deliver? Our forefathers bled for our land and our rights and it is sad that soon it will be gone forever and ever someone else will own what we have now then we will be the ones in bondage. This day has to come for God’s word has already been written and cannot be changed. This New World Order was written over 2000 years ago for a warning too the ones that serve God and it is going to happen, we had our chance to change and we chose not to follow the straight and narrow but the wide path of distruction. People chose not to vote for Ron Paul because he was too old or stupid. there was an excuse not to vote for a real change in government, and hold tight to our constitution for what our nation really stood for, and that our forefathers bled and died for this land we call home. God is the only One that can help us now!

    • Motov

      Here isa recent speech from Ron Paul

      Statement on the Motion to Concur in the Senate Amendments to H.R. 8

      By Congressman Ron Paul

      We Are Already Over the Fiscal Cliff

      2 January 2013

      Despite claims that the Administration and Congress saved America from the fiscal cliff with an early morning vote today, the fact is that government spending has already pushed Americans over the cliff.

      Only serious reductions in federal spending will stop the cliff dive from ending in a crash landing, yet the events of this past month show that most elected officials remain committed to expanding the welfare-warfare state.

      While there was much hand-wringing over the “draconian” cuts that would be imposed by sequestration, in fact sequestration does not cut spending at all.

      Under the sequestration plan, government spending will increase by 1.6 trillion over the next eight years. Congress calls this a cut because without sequestration spending will increase by 1.7 trillion over the same time frame. Either way it is an increase in spending.

      Yet even these minuscule cuts in the “projected rate of spending” were too much for Washington politicians to bear. The last minute “deal” was the worst of both worlds: higher taxes on nearly all Americans now and a promise to revisit these modest reductions in spending growth two months down the road.

      We were here before, when in 2011 Republicans demanded these automatic modest decreases in government growth down the road in exchange for a massive increase in the debt ceiling. As the time drew closer, both parties clamored to avoid even these modest moves.

      Make no mistake: the spending addiction is a bipartisan problem. It is generally believed that one party refuses to accept any reductions in military spending while the other party refuses to accept any serious reductions in domestic welfare programs.

      In fact, both parties support increases in both military and domestic welfare spending. The two parties may disagree on some details of what kind of military or domestic welfare spending they favor, but they do agree that they both need to increase. This is what is called “bipartisanship” in Washington.

      While the media played up the drama of the down-to-the-wire negotiations, there was never any real chance that a deal would not be worked out. It was just drama. That is how Washington operates.

      As it happened, a small handful of Congressional and Administration leaders gathered in the dark of the night behind closed doors to hammer out a deal that would be shoved down the throats of Members whose constituents had been told repeatedly that the world would end if this miniscule decrease in the rate of government spending was allowed to go through.

      While many on both sides express satisfaction that this deal only increases taxes on the “rich,” most Americans will see more of their paycheck going to Washington because of the deal. The Tax Policy Center has estimated that 77 percent of Americans would see higher taxes because of the elimination of the payroll tax cut.

      The arguments against the automatic “cuts” in military spending were particularly dishonest. Hawks on both sides warned of doom and gloom if, as the plan called for, the defense budget would have returned to 2007 levels of spending! Does anybody really believe that our defense spending was woefully inadequate just five years ago?

      And since 2007 we have been told that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are winding down. According to the Congressional Budget Office, over the next eight years military spending would increase 20 percent without the sequester and would increase 18 percent with the sequester. And this is what is called a dangerous reduction in defense spending?

      Ironically, some of the members who are most vocal against tax increases and in favor of cuts to domestic spending are the biggest opponents of cutting a penny from the Pentagon budget. Over and over we were told of the hundreds of thousands of jobs that would be lost should military spending be returned to 2007 levels.

      Is it really healthy to think of our defense budget as a jobs program? Many of these allegedly free-market members sound more Keynesian than Paul Krugman when they praise the economic “stimulus” created by militarism.

      As Chris Preble of the Cato Institute wrote recently, “It’s easy to focus exclusively on the companies and individuals hurt by the cuts and forget that the taxed wealth that funded them is being employed elsewhere.”

      While Congress ultimately bears responsibility for deficit spending, we must never forget that the Federal Reserve is the chief enabler of deficit spending. Without a central bank eager to monetize the debt, Congress would be unable to fund the welfare-warfare state without imposing unacceptable levels of taxation on the American people.

      Of course, the Federal Reserve’s policies do impose an “inflation” tax on the American people; however, since this tax is hidden Congress does not fear the same public backlash it would experience if it directly raised income taxes.

      I have little hope that a majority of Congress and the President will change their ways and support real spending reductions unless forced to by an economic crisis or by a change in people’s attitudes toward government.

      Fortunately, increasing numbers of Americans are awakening to the dangers posed by the growth of the welfare-warfare state. Hopefully this movement will continue to grow and force the politicians to reverse course before government spending, taxing, and inflation destroys our economy entirely.

    • http://facebook DUH

      Has it once jumped into ur very hollow brain that our government is talking about taking assault weapons out of the hands of criminals and sickos like u, not hunting guns or hand guns registered guns to people who have nothing to hide, What do u have to hide ole cedarridgefarmsinc? Not duh but Huh?

  • Rosegarten

    Beware of the name caller – they are usually what they rant about!

  • Ranchman

    @Robert Smith

    Has it ever occurred to you that your hateful drivel is not wanted here? Has it ever occurred to you that your support of Obama shows you to be the fool that you are? Has it ever occurred to you that it is people like you that Patriots dedicate their lives to fighting against and destroying? Has it ever occurred to you that you are licking the boots of those who would shackle you and that you have made enemies of the very people who would stand with you if you weren’t such an idiot? You come on Conservative sites (many of them, not just this one) and spout the most asinine collection of garbage, showing to the world how utterly devoid of reasoning you are. You’re like a 2 year old, craving attention. You will do anything for it, including making a total *ss of yourself for all the world to see. Patriots who read this article don’t jump over to your liberal websites, angrily typing out their nonsense in the hopes that someone will take them seriously. You spread hate, you spread dissension. You cause further division in a time when unity is so sorely needed. You are not part of the problem, “Robert Smith” or whatever your name really is. You ARE the problem.

    God Bless the USofA. And may God have mercy on your wretched soul.

    • Paul Wells

      Thanks Ranchman, for saying what I and others have feeling for quite a while about the simpleton troll who calls himself Robert Smith.

  • JON

    Wayne Root is wrong. Just the same way he said Romney would win by a landslide.

    • Paul Wells

      Typical leftist/progressive troll…wahhh wahhh.. Nothing of substance, or to see, here!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest C. Duran Bailiff

    Only fools, liars & idiots argue with the truth- that’s staring them in the face.
    Another Home run- Great job W.A.R.!

  • Rick

    Mr Root wouldn’t recognize a real socialist if one walked up and slapped him in the face. Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods. Obama is many things but a socialist he is not. He – and most of Congress, including the Republicans and a lot of Democrats – are more of a corporate oligarchy beholden to the influence and interests of huge multi-national corporations, banks, insurance companies and wall street.

  • BarleyWheets

    Soicalism is just a new fancier word for Cummunism.. there is so little difference between the two..its like slightly different shades of BLACK. Everyone that agrees with socialism should live in Russia for a while with the people not the tourist section… and see Medical doctors earning the same amount as a pancake fipper..and neither one can afford meat more than one a week sometimes not that much. Nobody gets more than about 6 hrs of electricity a day all water is extremely limited .. a shower everyday? Not in Russia.. you are only allowed water a certain times of the day. Socialist people go live in Russia and get out of America.
    Communism vs Socialism
    Diffen › Economics In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries – including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. – have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. “Socialism” is sometimes used interchangeably with “communism” but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems.

    Comparison chart
    Communism Socialism
    Definition: A theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, with actual ownership ascribed to the community or state A theory or system of social organization based on the holding of most property in common, with actual ownership ascribed to the workers
    Philosophy: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Free-access to the articles of consumption is made possible by advances in technology that allow for super-abundance From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution. Emphasis on profit being distributed among the society or workforce in addition to receiving a wage.
    Political System: No leader, directed directly by the people. This has never been actually practiced, and has just used a one-party system. Multiple parties, but the ruling party usually goes by the name “Socialist”.
    Social Structure: All class distinctions are eliminated. Class distinctions are diminished
    Economic System: Wealth redistributed so that everyone in society is given equal shares of the benefits derived from labor. All means of production are controlled by the state. Wealth redistributed so that everyone in society is given somewhat equal shares of the benefits derived from labor, but people can earn more if they work harder. Means of production are controlled by the workers themselves.
    Free Choice: In real communism, where a leader does not exist, everything is chosen freely.In those that have been practiced though, all choices, including education, religion, employment and marriage, are controlled by the state. All choices, including education, religion, employment and marriage, are up to the individual. All health care and education is provided free to everybody
    Private Property: Abolished two kinds of property, private property, such as land, houses, clothing, etc. owned by the individual. Public property, factories, and means of production owned by the state but with worker control
    Ideas: Human societies have always been divided into warring classes. The Industrial Revolution has enriched the wealthy and impoverished the poor. The workers must overthrow the bourgeois. All people should be given an equal opportunity to succeed. Workers should have most say in their factory’s management. The free market suffers from problems like tragedy of the commons. Government regulation is necessary.
    Religion: Abolished. freedom of religion
    Discrimination: In theory, all members of the state are considered equal The people are considered equal, laws are made when necessary to protect people from discrimination
    Economic Coordination: Government controls all business, as well as Business decisions. Planned-Socialism relies principally on planning to determine investment and production decisions. Planning may be centralized or decentralized. Market-socialism relies on markets for allocating capital to different socially-owned enterprises.
    Key elements: An enhanced form of the principle of “Production for use”. Economic activity and production especially are adjusted to meet human needs and economic demands. “Production for use”: useful goods and services are produced specifically for their usefulness.
    Means of control: Proletariat engages in violent rebellion. Proletariat engages in taking charge of the factories and means of production.
    Political Movements: Leninism, Trotskyism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, Left-Communism Democratic Socialism, Communism, Libertarian Socialism, Anarchism, Syndicalism
    Ownership structure: The means of production are commonly-owned, meaning no entity or individual owns productive property. Importance is ascribed to “usership” over “ownership”. The means of production are socially-owned with the surplus value produced accruing to either all of society (in Public-ownership models) or to all the employee-members of the enterprise (in Cooperative-ownership models).
    Key Proponents: Karl Marx, Fredrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky Robert Owen, Pierre Leroux, Karl Marx, Fredrick Engels, John Stuart Mill, Albert Einstein, George Bernard Shaw, Leo Tolstoy, Emma Goldman
    Variations: Include Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism and Maoism libertarian-socialism, and anarcho-socialism, anarcho-syndicalism
    Way of Change: Government in a Communist-state is the agent of change rather than any market or desire on the part of consumers. Change by government can be swift or slow, depending on change in ideology or even whim. Workers in a Socialist-state are the agent of change rather than any market or desire on the part of consumers. Change by the workers can be swift or slow, depending on change in ideology or even whim.

  • Kathryn Kohl

    I enjoyed the creative way you got your point across. It’s almost scary however that what we read as humor is truth! :( thank you

  • jazzridez

    Here’s another thought that should be looked into.
    RICO act. Well, it looks to me like congress in its entirety and every person that works in it, the white house and every single person that works in it and draws federal paychecks, the justice department and every single person that works directly or indirectly and every single department there-in, and every single employee of the federal government of the United States of America regardless of job description is and has been involved in criminal activity as an organization and every member of congress, including pages, secretaries, mail runners and every single employee therein, every single worker involved in working for the federal government at every level, do I need to list them, should be arrested and charged under the RICO act as an ongoing criminal organization. They are all complicitous in the treasonous acts of lying, cheating, stealing and misrepresentation from/ to the general Natural Born Citizen Population, that would include every judge, bailiff, secretary, toilet cleaner, truck driver, mechanic and every single worker in the justice department nationwide is and has been committing crimes against the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America and should be arrested, jailed without bond for 10 years until trial and convicted of the crimes they have committed. Upon conviction they should be sent to prison, general population, to serve not less than life without the possibility of parole. Just like the drug dealers and anybody else that has been charged under the RICO act. Their Crimes will start with Treason. They have been lying, stealing and cheating the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America for at least 75 years. I can’t see any difference between them and the Mafia, if there ever was such a thing, Gun Smugglers, Drug Smugglers, lying businessmen, treasury department employees at every level, bankers at every level, major corporation executives that outsource jobs from the USA taking away jobs from the Natural Born Citizens of the USA and every secretary that didn’t stand up and shout out I’m Not Gonna Be Part Of This Fraud or any RICO defined organization. When convicted ‘All’ their assets and I mean everything they own should be confiscated and put in the general fund to help the needy Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America. Everything they have was derived from their criminal activity while working in the Criminal Organization we know as the Federal Government of the United States of America. That includes all of their kids’ stuff and of course the wives and mistresses property. Seize; confiscate all property of any description. Freeze all bank accounts. Their sentences after a quick trial after sitting in lock down for 10 years and conviction will be Life in, General Population, Prison without the possibility of Parole. Creation of construction jobs for a lot of new prisons for these poor folks that have been sucking on the tax paying Natural Born Citizen Tit. Give the sons and daughters of these crooked politicians and government workers the choice of Prison for life without parole or Front Line Combat Positions to fight under the same wait till you are shot at before you return fire rules of engagement. Well, they get a choice. Then we can go after the middlemen that were involved in defense procurement and all procurement process middlemen that were instrumental in ripping off the taxpayers for the last 75 years and we can prosecute the dead criminals posthumously. Then we can go after the lobbyists and major corporate executives that have run this country into the ground with their excessive salaries and extravagant lifestyles while laughing at their customers. I will mention that all politicians at every level of any size government entity and every person that has dealt with foreign nations as a representative of this country was and is involved in criminal activity against the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America should each and every one of them be arrested and jailed for 10 years then convicted of treason and crimes against the Natural Born Citizens of the United States of America and sent to Prison, general population, for life without the possibility of Parole. Of course this will include every single member of every policing organization from city, county, state and federal level, every governor and each and every member of every state government and every person involved in the operation of those states should be arrested and tried for Treason and crimes under the Rico Act and jailed for life without the possibility of Parole in general Population. Every member of news media that has not stood up and shouted “I’m Not Gonna Be Part of This” needs to be arrested and imprisoned for life for Treasonous acts against the Natural Born Citizens of the USA. By the way I used spell check unlike a lot of you IDIOTS don’t. I also reread this many times before I sent it and it may be a bit much but it’s the only way to get the point across. Hey Stupid, use spell check and proof read before you post it. You may be part of the problem in this country. I don’t give a [expletive deleted] about the rest of the world, they can go straight to…. Well, there’s a place for them and it’s not the USA.

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Mr. Root:
    I sure hope you arn’t condemming Mr. Oboma, as a Socialist (Politican)! When you are submereged compleetly as a ” Writter.” ~ “Not even a good one at that.”!

  • Paul

    Dead on

  • Michael McCroskery

    Can we really trust a man that predicted Obama would lose. He also said he had never been wrong with his predictions in the past. Can you all put away your dislike for Obama. Our country is hurting and filth spewed by the author will never help us heal. It will only guarantee that libertarianism maybe isn’t as good as it has been cracked up to be.

    • http://facebook DUH

      MM u get an A+ from me!

  • Bill

    What is funny is that by pointing out obamas socialist leanings, it has brought out all of the socialists to defend him

    • drketedc

      Bill, you are the voice of reason. What a lot of shills for the gov’t have come out of the woodwork! Wayne must have touched a nerve. Interesting how they all focus on the ‘socialist’ label as if it is a bad thing- when they believe in it! The real issues are the incompetence, laziness, greediness,mendacity and arrogance of this potus, no matter what his label.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.melcher.39 Mary Melcher

    Actually the president is NOT a “socialist”. You however, are a shameless shill.

    • http://facebook DUH

      MM u get an A+ from me!

  • http://gmail.com lefty

    WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR A TRUE AMERICAN TO REALIZE THAT THE U.S.A THAT NOTHING COMES FREE WITH OUT TRUE HARD WORK!!!!! SO IT CAN BE SAID THAT WE ARE HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION WITH OUR POLITICIANS. AND THE SO CALLED VOTERS NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      Bob 666:
      Government 1.0.1.: Voters, & Public in general… Are all piss ants! Law Makers, Rule with no concern past Their Control!

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        To Lefty — Not Bob 666… Please forgive me…

  • Bob666

    “If the only thing you, your cabinet members and czars know about business is from books you read at Harvard or Columbia (all of which were written by Karl Marx), you might be a socialist”

    Well, he did say Humor. This is a very good response from a guy who lacks an education.

  • http://DoItHere.US Rich

    Of course he is and many more of the talking heads of the conservative and the libertarian persuasions should have been talking about it over the last 4 years.

  • DrChiringa

    Maybe it’s a little too late to call BHO a socialist.
    After four years following his masters agenda we
    have to realize this is just a continuation of the
    GLOBALISTS push toward ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT slavering. You can call the POTUS a socialist, communist, fascist it’s all
    the same. They need a socialized world to close the deal and there’s perhaps only a handful in Congress who are opposed to it.

  • Bimbam

    Barry Saetoro is a socialist is about as trite as saying Barry Saetoro is a negro.

    We need to stop talking about it and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

    The boy does not belong there. He has no proven credentials, many false ones, he is a phony, an outright liar and he may even be illegal.

    He has desecrated this nation by being the first pagan president. A CURSE HAS COME UPON U.S.! America is NOW A CURSED NATION BECAUSE OF OUR SIN.

    He has sent a pagan boy to rule US who surrounds himself with arrogant women. The Bible says because of our sins he will send women and children to lead US.

    The corruption in Washington has reached its peak with this phony illegal moron, the abolishing of the 2nd Amendment and increase in taxes to the highest levels since this illegal act was proclaimed in 1913!!!!

    • http://facebook DUH

      Damn Boozo Barry how u can use religion and the BS u said in the same paragraph is beyond me!

      • http://facebook DUH

        Oh and Boozo Barry was the name I gave u not the President of The United States of America, that the people elected! Can anyone say poor loser!!!!

  • Noralee nelson

    Passed socialism 4 years back – truckin’ right into full blown communism. Tidal wave coming.

    • posttime

      Yes, they’re right out in the open now, like a pack of ravenous hyenas.

  • posttime

    Alan Keyes called him something else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg

    • Paul Wells

      I saw this youtube video back when it was first posted…and I remember thinking, now THERE is an intelligent man willing to put it all out there, and speak the truth. Sadly, Alan will become a footnote in the American political landscape for such frank, and open dialogue, because the Communists have taken over!

  • http://yahoo.com Sally

    we need the POPE to REBUK the SOCIALIST demons out of this country!

    • DrChiringa

      Sally:
      I’m sorry to tell you that the Pope and Vatican are part of the Globalist agenda.
      They are already asking for a world currency. The only hope for this country
      Is an informed public.Time is running out.

  • nickkin

    So what is new about obozo being a socialist–community organizer-duh….loves Karl Marx-duh…….liberals will be the first one’s to bitch but they will suffer like the common sense Americans……..

  • http://www.facebook.com/erin.kimmell Erin Kimmell

    Wow. Just another pointless debate on a topic that is meant to keep us all scratching our heads in confusion. “Socialism,” has never really existed. NEVER, to my knowledge. Any attempt in employing this term, has always been circumvented by the government. The people pay the price, but the rewards are kept by the government.
    “Socialism” is now just a rubber term, just like “Liberal,” that is used to confuse the masses. Most people have no idea what the term defines.

  • Jo Ann Copeland

    It is my hope Obama will be impeached! Soon!

    • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

      1/19/13, What else is new? With his war on energy, any business for that matter, his devaluation of the currency, he’s even worse. I get a heating oil bill @ $4.03/gal; total, $1,027.00 for 255 gal., makes me sick. What happened to us was blacks & others voted emotion rather than pockets. Let me let you in on a not-so-well-kept secret: whenever black people, for the most part, not 100% of the time, attain positions of power it often goes to their heads. Quite often they turn out to be more corrupt & less competent than their white counterparts. We could do without more Sharp James’s; Marion Barry’s; & “runaway” Ray Nagins. The latest on Nagin, former mayor of New Orleans: he’s been indicted on corruption charges.

    • Financially Insecure John

      Most GOP voters continue to believe that congressional Republicans are out of touch with the party base, while Democrats are happier than ever with how their team is performing in Washington, DC.

      The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 30% of Likely Republican Voters believe Republicans in Congress have done a good job representing their party’s values over the past several years. Sixty-three percent (63%) of GOP voters think congressional Republicans have lost touch with the party’s base throughout the nation.

  • David in MA

    and, in my opinion, he is also a drug addict.

  • Toy

    Just love Chaucer: What will be remembered in another 600 years?

  • grant uptain

    I am sorry to add one more disillusionment to my long list of the painfull life of the same. I can find nothing wrong in government’s duty to protect the least among us, as FDR worked out a balance between capitalism (not the present concept of the same) and social programs to protect the disenfranchized or all of those who find it next to impossible to put food on the table for the family. In consequence, please delete my name from your line of blather.
    grant of Rocklin, CA

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