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March 2, 2013 by  

History is HARD! Maxine’s Math. And: Shewtin’ with Joe! All this — plus — double-secret Jihad! Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Yes, FREE George Z!

    Maxine Waters & Joe do not have an identity crisis. They are gifted in STUPIDITY, which is producing too much Nitrous Oxide – laughing gas.

    • Dennis48e

      Alondra you might want to rethink because where Joe and Maxine are concerned stupidity is a compliment.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dennis, any idea why the beast is whining each Saturday? His cripple brain does not understand the true mocking HUMOR, but he still to come here.

        Ron White is right: “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gxKStPXyn8)

        Dennis, do you agree with Ron White?

      • Michael J.

        Hello Alondra,
        You’re right, “You can’t fix stupid”, but there is therapy that can facilitate remission in some cases. Let’s keep it a secret from Bob666, he’s fun to watch as is.

        Or in the spirit of Rahm (Deadfish) Emanuel’s words, Never let a diapers to diploma indoctrinated drone go too waste. There will always be a need for a stupidity poster child so that others may take heed and stay clear of the affliction.

    • nc

      Alondra, In the George Zimmerman case we have an unarmed citizen killed by another citizen who is charged with murder! There are matters in the case that are in conflict! Yet, you people who claim to bleed CONSTITUTION INK and claim Constitutional rights to unborn clumps of cells, do not want the alleged killer of a citizen to be tried in accordance to that Constitution and State constitution. Just let old Alondra make that call! No trial! I can’t find that in MY copy of the Constitution!
      If you would just get out of your mom’s basement and run for public office we could see how popular your opinions are!!!!! “Hilarious?” Ben Crystal tried it and got crushed!

      PS: Maxine and Joe tried it and won!

      • Michael J.

        nc(negative consciousness),
        What would we do without the thoughts and wizardry of a “born clump of cells” such as yourself. Droning along to the whimsical sirens song of the almighty Pied Piper from the Kenyan Bush, quietly plodding along like contented cows oblivious to the fact that there fate is decided by others in this cradle to grave nanny nation.

        No, the problem is getting born in the first place, a situation where you as well as Mad Maxine and Halogen Smile Biden have won, much to our collective chagrin .

  • Bob666

    Well,
    Another mindless comentary by Ben “Bubble Boy” Crystal, I hope he has a day job.

    • mark

      Well……… Another mindless ramble from a devil worshipping idiot named Bob666. If you don’t like this site or Ben , why don’t you stay away?

      • Walter & Renee Agard

        hey Mark, you have your opinion and want us to listen, why you cant listen to others opinion too. every body have a right to their own opinion and free speech.

      • Sarah

        This is a reply to Walter & Renee Agard. Why is it that whenever I choose to post on Media Matters, they block me and won’t let me post? I am courteous and respectful and they still block me. Liberals don’t like facts and the truth.

      • Bob666

        Yo Mark,
        To engage with intelligent people like you.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Algards, what brought you to this site? You obviously have nothing in common with Ben C. or most of the readers so being typical Leftist predators you expect that guarded moments will not occur and you will still get a bite in somewhere.

        • Bob666

          Nadzieja,
          Doyou ever make a comment that is Relevant?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        mark, the masonic, waveward-soujourner has no other place to go…this is where he belongs, he just hasn’t realized it yet. Hence, his constant presence…he likes it here!

        • Bob666

          Yo WTS,
          Your altered state of relaity amuses me.

      • Old Henry

        Sarah:

        Why would you want to post on a commie rag like media matters – when they don’t…

    • Warrior

      At the end of the tax year, the IRS office sent an inspector to audit the books of a local hospital. While the IRS agent was checking the books he turned to the CFO of the hospital and said, “I notice you buy a lot of bandages. What do you do with the end of the roll when there’s too little left to be of any use?”

      “Good question,” noted the CFO. “We save them up and send them back to the bandage company and every now and then they send us a free box of bandages.”

      “Oh,” replied the auditor, somewhat disappointed that his unusual question had a practical answer. “What about all these plaster purchases? What do you do with what’s left over after setting a cast on a patient?”

      “Ah, yes,” replied the CFO, realizing that the inspector was trying to trap him with an unanswerable question. “We save it and send it back to the manufacturer, and every now and then they send us a free package of plaster.”

      “I see,” replied the auditor, thinking hard about how he could fluster the know-it-all CFO. “Well,” he went on, “What do you do with all the leftover foreskins from the circumcisions you perform?”

      “Here, too, we do not waste,” answered the CFO. “What we do is save all the little foreskins and send them to the IRS Office, and about once a year they send us a complete dick.”

      • Bob666

        Yo Warror,
        That one was pretty good, keep auditioning, You could be Ben’s replacement.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        A little girl asked her father; do all fairy tales begin with “Once upon a time”?
        The father replied; No, some begin with – If I am elected…

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Warrior, it’s very good one.
        It’s explains the [expletive deleted] of the Left and this administration.

        Warrior, here is some good news in your state – Illinois, if you did not come across yet.

        ILLINOIS SHERIFFS’ ASSOCIATION PRESS RELEASE
        February 11, 2013
        Springfield, IL. – The Illinois Sheriffs’ Association at their Winter Training Conference ADOPTED the attached RESOLUTION which mirrors the NATIONAL SHERIFFS’ ASSOCIATION RESOLUTION passed at their Mid-Winter Conference in Washington, D.C.

        SEVENTY-THREE Sheriffs were in attendance at the Illinois Conference held in Springfield. The Sheriffs also VOTED UNANIMOUSLY NOT TO SUPPORT the proposed legislation House Bill 132 that bans certain weapons.

        Sheriffs from across the state of Illinois believe that IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION INCLUDING THE SECOND AMENDMENT. Rational LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE NOT the cause of random acts of horrific violence in our communities…

        Illinois Sheriffs’ Association
        401 East Washington
        Springfield, Illinois 62701
        217-753-2372
        http://www.ilsheriff.org/images/stories/press/press%20release%20on%20gun%20control%20resolution.pdf

      • sam1966

        Warrior and Jay, D’OH! :-) :-) :-) Right on both accounts.Here is another example of the 5th column in action once again. This time they want to take away people’s voting rights.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/is-voting-rights-act-protection-a-legal-entitlement-supreme-court-must-overturn/

        I thought the libturds and progturds were all for helping minorities. I guess that taking away their voting rights counts, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “And all here assembled, whether belonging to public life or to private life, with hearts devotedly thankful to Almighty God for the preservation of the liberty and happiness of this country, unite in sincere and fervent prayers that this deposit, and the walls and arches, the domes and the towers, the columns and the entablatures now to be erected over it may endure forever.”

        Daniel Webster

    • FreedomFighter

      Howard Storm ( former atheist ) – near death experience
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwBEerA4_uY

      Bob666 – change your life, what waits for you is: Darkness and Torment.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Bob666

        Yo F/F,
        There will be light a plenty for me.

        Virtus junxit, mors non separabit

      • Ted Crawford

        BOB
        A stultus vir,stultus res!

        • Bob666

          Yo Ted,
          stultus es, rem actam agis!

      • Old Henry

        FreedomFighter:

        Another good link. I hope that all of our resident atheists watch it and take Mr. Storm’s words to heart.

        Too bad DaveH has moved on.

      • sam1966

        Well said and correct Freedom Fighter fellow patriot. Bob antichrist has a problem with, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor” when it comes to our founding. But alas! The darkness he is heading for is as dark, maybe darker, than his heart. As Mr. T once said, “I pity the fool!” Here is the latest round of Obama bin Laden laying more crap onto the shoulders of the average American.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/obama-admin-releases-700-pages-of-obamacare-regulations/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob antichrist out.

        “If religious books are not widely circulated among the masses in this country, I do not know what is going to become of us, as a nation. If truth be not diffused, error will be; If God and His Word are not known and received, the devil and his works will gain the ascendency, if the evangelical volume does not reach every hamlet, the pages of a corrupt and licentious literature will; If the power of the Gospel is not felt throughout the length and breadth of the land, anarchy and misrule, degradation and misery, corruption and darkness will reign without mitigation or end.”

        Daniel Webster
        June 17, 1843

        • Bob666

          Yo Amurbabble1966
          ““I pity the fool!”

          He was refering to you Sam, Patriots have self respect and respect for their fellow citizens,

          That leaves you out!

      • sam1966

        For once, you are part right. A patriot does have respect for his/her fellow countrymen, but if that person is spewing lies, innuendo, rhetoric, and hate, I don’t forsee a patriot respecting that person for too long. Here is more good news of God and patriots winning in Michigan.

        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/05/abortion-clinic-closes-after-doing-abortions-for-30-years/

        We are winning the good fight on many fronts these days. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “…speedily bringing on that holy and happy period when the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and all the people willingly bow to the sceptre of Him who is the Prince of Peace.”

        Samuel Adams
        Proclamation for Prayer 1797

    • Michael J.

      Bob6ix6ix6ix,
      Careful, your fixation with blowing bubbles is showing.

      • Mikey

        And Bubbles is the name of a clown.

        • Bob666

          Hay,
          It’s Mikey-he will eat anything (and believe it to boot).

      • Bob666

        Oh Michael,
        At least your are consistent in your responses.

      • Michael J.

        Bob6ix6ix6ix,
        What’s this… flattery from a rival?
        I think I’ll go take a dump.

        • Bob666

          Yo Michael J.
          “Bob6ix6ix6ix,
          I think I’ll go take a dump”

          Don’t Strain to hard, I would hate to see you lose some IQ points.

      • sam1966

        Once again Bob antichrist shows his low intelligence by only posting personal attacks. Sheesh! And this coming from someone who calls himself smart? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Here is something showing how libturd/progturds in other countries say that killing children is OK, but schooling them is not. Home schooling that is. This is starting in our country also.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/9694/its-ok-to-kill-your-children-but-not-educate-them/

        If Obama bin Laden has his way with education, they may end up being like this:

        “When an opponent declares,’I will not come over to your side’, I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already…What are you? You will pass on. You descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will be nothing else but this new community.’”

        Adolf Hitler
        November 06, 1933

        “The new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”

        Adolf Hitler
        May 01, 1937

        These come from the book written by William L. Shirer, “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.” This sounds like what Bob antichrist wants for our kids. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter…the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence.”

        Daniel Webster

        • Bob666

          Sammybabble1966,
          “Once again Bob antichrist shows his low intelligence by only posting personal attacks”

          No attacts Sammybabble, only facts.

          You lose, that leaves you out

      • sam1966

        Not even worthy of a response Bob antichrist. Here is something showing how Obama bin Laden is the first victim of his actions.

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/04/Gallup-Obamas-job-Approval-Dives-to-46

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “…that the peaceful and glorious rein of our Divine Redeemer may be known and enjoyed throughout the whole family of mankind.”

        Samuel Adams 1795

        • Bob666

          That’s OK CINO Sam,

          Because you have proven yourself not to be worthy. A closed mind gathers no knowledge and a closed heart gathers nor provides any love.

          Perhaps one day you will be worthy of greater things and when that happens, it will be recognized, trust me on that.

      • sam1966

        Not worthy of a response Bob antichrist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “And because we have understood that our source is eternal, America has been different. We have no king but Jesus.”

        John Ashcroft
        May 1999

        • Bob666

          Yo CINO,
          I will take that as an obvious crisis of faith on your part. It’s in your heart or it’s nowhere because talk is cheap and superficial.

    • hipshotpercusion

      The O-Bozo administration recently ordered 5 of the Navy’s nuclear powered Aircraft Carries into Norfolk at the same time for inspection. I guess him and the retards he has working for him never heard about Pearl Harbor. Talk about mindless!

      • Bob666

        Yo Hipshot
        Then I guess its a good thing that you have five fingers to count them.

      • Matrix

        Bob666

        Yo Moron!!!

        I have been on this site for many years now, and truly love to read Bob and his staffs post.
        He has educated me, along with many of his readers on many different subject and I appreciate having Bob Livingston and his intelligent writing staff and many of his intelligent readers.

        It’s unfortunate that idiots like you have to come onto these sites and spew your dementedly useless comments and your idiotic thoughts to those of us that have no use for you!

        Every two or three days, I will read a couple of sentences you write, just to see how the idiots are thinking on any subject, and have to say that you, nc, galt, rbt and a few others, seem to all be the same useful idiot, under different names, and I truly get a kick out of you morons!

        Yes, it’s a free country, and I know how proud you are to where the names 666, like a badge of honor, and to argue with anyone that will listen to your demented waste of a brain, but you need to know that no one cares!

        Almost every night, after working for 10 to 14 hours a day, I come on this site, sit down to relax, and read the blog and the comments from the readers, and enjoy the intellectual and the not so all the same, except for you!

        I know you sit home all day on your obama PC, going to many Libertarian or Conservative sites, and spewing your ignorance and lack if morals on any one that will listen!

        Sorry fool, but no one cares!

        I enjoy the comments you have left me in the past, am happy to have had such a positive effect in your miserable life, but you have to understand that I could care less what a low life maggot, such as yourself, thinks about me or any other subject!

        You need to get out of your section 8 housing unit, or trailer you live in, and find a job! Do something productive with the little time you have left on this planet!

        Stop wasting all of your days, as your idiotic posts prove, writing dumb comments to people that could care less if you stop breathing this moment, and stop wasting our taxes on such a useless culture as yours!

        You have sucked off of the good American folk long enough, and we are getting tired of supporting you and your fellow waste products!

        Yes 666, it is still a free country, and you have taken total advantage of it your entire life with free obama housing, free obama PC, free obama phone, food, transportation and the list goes on and on and on, just like your afterlife in hell will go on and on and on……
        Enjoy fool!

        • Bob666

          Yo Matrix!!!

          “I have been on this site for many years now, and truly love to read Bob and his staffs post. He has educated me, along with many of his readers on many different subject and I appreciate having Bob Livingston and his intelligent writing staff and many of his intelligent readers”

          From reading your many of your hate spewing post Matrix, I would question that you have learned anything.

          “It’s unfortunate that idiots like you have to come onto these sites and spew your dementedly useless comments and your idiotic thoughts to those of us that have no use for you”.

          Yes, many people like me offer anything of use to you attending a Klan rally.

          “Every two or three days, I will read a couple of sentences you write, just to see how the idiots are thinking on any subject, and have to say that you, nc, galt, rbt and a few others, seem to all be the same useful idiot, under different names, and I truly get a kick out of you morons”!

          Actually, I post under my name only and Galt, nc, rbt and others don’t always agree with me.

          “Yes, it’s a free country, and I know how proud you are to where the names 666, like a badge of honor, and to argue with anyone that will listen to your demented waste of a brain, but you need to know that no one cares”

          Actually, there are many who do care, but they tend to have higher IQ’s than you do and can understand and debate complex concepts.

          “Almost every night, after working for 10 to 14 hours a day, I come on this site, sit down to relax, and read the blog and the comments from the readers, and enjoy the intellectual and the not so all the same, except for you!”

          So sorry to hear about that. I worked ten plus hours a day for 45 years and I am semi retired now as the corporation that I sold my company to keeps me on retainer. So you whine about paying your dues in life-poor baby. Grow up and put some big girl panties on and deal with being a grown up, you are a sad excuse for a man.

          “I know you sit home all day on your obama PC, going to many Libertarian or Conservative sites, and spewing your ignorance and lack if morals on any one that will listen”!

          Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I purchased the PC that I use with money that I worked hard for. I was not aware there was any such thing as an “Obama PC”. Since I am a Libertarian, I feel quite at home here, but obviously you can’t relate or identify true Libertarian values. May your Morals one day be help as high as mine-but i doubt that will ever happen.

          “Sorry fool, but no one cares”! -Go look in the mirror!

          “I enjoy the comments you have left me in the past, am happy to have had such a positive effect in your miserable life, but you have to understand that I could care less what a low life maggot, such as yourself, thinks about me or any other subject!”

          While You may not have evolved from the cock -roach, I am far above that as an insect. An just so you understand, you are obviously a very broken toy, so in your damaged form-do you really, really believe your post makes an impact on me? sady, they do not.

          “You need to get out of your section 8 housing unit, or trailer you live in, and find a job! Do something productive with the little time you have left on this planet!”

          I live in a nice neighborhood with solid neighbors and would have no idea how to apply for section 8 housing and I am well retired as a result of my own efforts.

          “Stop wasting all of your days, as your idiotic posts prove, writing dumb comments to people that could care less if you stop breathing this moment, and stop wasting our taxes on such a useless culture as yours!”

          I would bet that I pay more taxes in retirement than you have ever paid and the first amendment is a wonderful thing!!!!!!!!

          “You have sucked off of the good American folk long enough, and we are getting tired of supporting you and your fellow waste products!”

          No one has ever supported me and I have been a job creator for a very long time. People like me provide employment for people like you. God I love the free market system!

          “Yes 666, it is still a free country, and you have taken total advantage of it your entire life with free obama housing, free obama PC, free obama phone, food, transportation and the list goes on and on and on, just like your afterlife in hell will go on and on and on……
          Enjoy fool!”

          Yes, it is a free country and it have given me opportunity and I have earned everythig that I have and defective parasites like yourself are able to spew your hate and dissatisfaction with the life you have as a result of dealing with your own personal failures.

          As for me, there is no Obama housing, no free Obama PC, no free Obama phone, food, transportation, etc. I have paid my own way every since I was 13 years old except for the home and education that my parents provided me (along with a proper southern upbringing-that you obviously lacked).

          In closing Matrix, now that we have identified that you don’t know $hit for Shinola and suffer from the rotten fruits of your own personal failures that enrage you with hate, I hope that one day you can find inner peace and some man jewels to become a functional human being and a contributor to society.

          the world is full of miserable failures just like you.

      • Karolyn

        Matrix – You have something against people living in trailers? I thought conservatives were not elitist.

      • Old Henry

        Matrix & YoBob:

        Breakin’ up is haaard tououo do…

        • Bob666

          Yo Old,
          Matrix is Broken-I’m a happy guy.

          The difference between us is; he is full of hate and wants nothing for anyone and I am basically happy and hope the he might achieve that one day.

          Real big difference, but I am also mindful that I do not have the right to deny Matrix failure.

      • Matrix

        Bob666

        Yo you sad excuse for procreation!

        LOLOLOLOLOL, as I stated moron, you have wayyyyy too much time on your hands!

        Get busy living, or get busy dying……..but please get off your azz and off your PC because you truly are a useless idiot, and we all are tired of your dumb BS (except your follower, Karolyn)!

        Oh, sorry for offending you about your section 8 housing, I’m not very keen on the liberal politically correct program, but would never wish to harm you mentally as some of your followers would suggest I have done…and by your reply…..but

        I’m just very happy for the common liberal, as they can sit in their self induced hell, and play on their obama computer, creating a false universe of dreams……if only they had a ….an ounce of morality….a soul….if only……

        The end…..

        • Bob666

          Yo Matrix,
          “I’m just very happy for the common liberal, as they can sit in their self induced hell, and play on their obama computer, creating a false universe of dreams……if only they had a ….an ounce of morality….a soul….if only……”

          Is that code for “I Matrix am damaged goods, have no clue on how to read people with any degree of accuracy and I, Matrix am a very content to stew in my failue and spew hate as a result of my misery?

          I’m curious, what happen to you along the way in your pathetic like to make you so resentful, unhappy and enraged with anger? Moral people don’t have the hate that you have or the limited and narow vision of life.

          I don’t have a need to browbeat your defects, But I am curious, what broke you?

      • jopa

        hipshot: I am sure they will have some lookouts watching for camels swimming towards them with explosives attached.Or Perhaps a Toyota pickup on a pontoon boat.Todays enemy doesn’t even have zeroes they have negatives.They consist of fourteen camels and twelve Toyota pick-ups.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jopa,

          I’m far from a expert on the military, but looking at the history of modern warfare,the big army & navy are pretty much obsolete. While I do believe there will always be an place for military might, 9/11 taught us that we have a new urban battlefield that future wars will be fought in different environment.

          From a threat evaluation, as far as countries go, China would be the predominate threat, but China will take us from on an economic and cyber front. Smaller piss-ant counties in the middle east will try a surgical strike like a dirty bomb or a 9/11 stand. Individual groups like Al-Qaeda will do the same and all are developing cyber abilities as well.

          Don’t get me wrong, there is a place for the traditional military, but as every day goes by, it’s place will be more and more limited and big aircraft carrier groups will play more of a support role.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        WAR is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
        …..
        Millions and billions of dollars would be piled up. By a few. Munitions makers. Bankers. Ship builders. Manufacturers. Meat packers. Speculators. They would fare well. Yes, they are getting ready for another war. Why shouldn’t they? It pays high dividends.
        -MajorGeneral Smedley D. Butler, in WAR IS A RACKET says :

        The military-industrial complex has no greater champion than the parasitic institution of banking, and for painfully obvious reasons; the staggering amount of money spent on this edifice – more than the net income of ALL U.S. corporations – is exclusively BORROWED. Forever mortgaging our children’s futures further entrenches the blood-sucking dominance and control that finance exerts over the productive or real economy until finally, left unchecked, the parasite kills the host. –Rob Kirby

        What about the new Obama administration? What are their priorities? Chris Floyd comments in Enduring Priorities in an Age of Change: War and Profits Over People :

        At the same time, he promises to expand – to expand – the multitrillion-dollar war machine that has literally bled the nation dry. He wants to expand a military-industrial-security complex that already devours more money and resources than every other military force on earth combined. He wants more troops, more weapons, an ever-increasing “global strike capability,” an escalation of the endless, pointless “War on Terror” in Afghanistan and Pakistan (for starters). He has never said a single word about “curbing government spending” on this vast conglomerate of death and destruction. He has not said a single word about rolling back even a few of American military outposts that in their several hundreds now cover the entire globe. At every point, it seems, government spending on the war machine – including the tens of billions of dollars spent in secret each year on the various tentacles of the “national security” apparatus – will be increased under the Obama administration.

        The president-elect has made his fundamental priorities clear – for anyone who wants to see them. The war machine and the financial markets will continue to be gorged and comforted in their wonted manner. Programs to help ordinary citizens, programs to enhance the quality of life for individuals and the well-being of society, will be the first – perhaps the only – areas to feel the budget axe. Whatever you may think of the efficacy of such programs, this ordering of priorities — war and profits over people — bespeaks the same depraved sensibility that has prevailed for generations in Washington. It is the same old rancid swill in a stylish new container.

        Change we can accept or more of the same ? For the people or for large military corporate interests? His actions speak louder than his rhetoric.

        Famous quotes on Central Bankers :

        “Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.”
        – The Honorable Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1930s

    • Warrior

      Comrade, maybe the vulcan n chief performed a “jedi mind meld” on Ben. Was the teleprompter out of commission yesterday or is does that device have artificial intelligence? Either way it really doesn’t matter. “Garbage In – Garbage Out”!

      • jopa

        Bob666: I also feel as though the days of the big army and navy are over and it is the drone that will be the chief deterrent of the future.China could be our main threat not just economically but the amount of sheer manpower they have, cyber attacks, and their nukes.The war in the Mideast is mainly an oil and holy war.If we pulled all of our aid out of Israel we would be at peace in that region, they hate us for our occupation and Israeli aid.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jopa,
          I wish that I could agree with you on Isreal and the middle east, but I can’t. People have been fighting over restate that no has a clear title for so long, I believe they have lost sight of why they hate each other.

          I do believe that when the oil wealth goes away, most of those in the middle east are back to fighting with sticks and stones. One of the many reasons why I believe the future in energy moves us away from fossel fuel.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        HOW IT ALL BEGAN

        Since the time of the Crusades, the Vatican had entrusted the CUSTODY of the HOLY LAND to the Franciscan Order in Jerusalem. Their function, essentially, consisted of helping the local Catholic population, as well as of watching over the properties the Church considered hers.

        Now of course, let us not forget HOW those properties came about to belong to the Church in the first place: after the SACKING OF JERUSALEM BY ROME, which happened by PURE FORCE , BRUTALITY, AND UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS inflicted on the JEWISH POPULATION OF ISRAEL, the likes of which history has scant comparison for, AND AFTER ROBBING THE JEWISH PEOPLE OF ALL ITS POSSESSIONS, – the depiction of which is found to this day on the ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME, – and following the subsequent desolation of Judea, Samaria and all of the Land of Israel, various rulers assumed ownership of the Land, and felt free to trade in it as though it belonged to them, which of course it did not. STOLEN PROPERTY CANNOT BE TRADED AT WILL. TITLE TO STOLEN PROPERTY SOLD BY A THIEF IS INVALID AND ILLEGAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

        For example, take Madoff’s investors: even though they unwittingly, innocently and unknowingly came to possess stolen goods, they nevertheless have to return the loot. So much cannot be stated of the Catholic Church, which knew perfectly well that the goods and real estate in Jerusalem , Judea, the Galilee, etc, were STOLEN PROPERTY, yet still claimed, and claims, ownership for it all even after 2000 years . ESAV [Esau] WILL NOT WILLINGLY RETURN THE BLESSING OF ERETZ YISRAEL [Land of Israel] TO JACOB. REMEMBER, ROME IS ESAV – and I would venture to add, ROME HAS PROVEN BY ITS BEHAVIOR THAT IT IS AMALEK AS WELL.

        In addition, let us not forget the brutality and massacres inflicted by the Crusaders on the local Jewish population.

        Still, to simplify things , let’s say that the Franciscans were responsible for watching over the properties claimed by the Church as its own in the Holy Land, Eretz Yisrael.

        Now AFTER THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF ISRAEL IN 1948, the Church started worrying about its possessions. Specially since 1967 and the RETURN OF AM ISRAEL TO ITS SACRED INHERITANCE, in particular to HAR HABAYIT [Temple Mount] AND ALL OF JERUSALEM, the Vatican became more and more concerned: not only was JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY over Jerusalem A SLAP IN THE FACE OF CATHOLICISM, the Vatican was also worried about ownership and political sovereignty, with just reason; so it devised a very detailed, sly and elaborate plan to recoup its sovereignty over Jerusalem and the rest of Israel. Not only that, but it decided that JERUSALEM HAD TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED.

        In addition to that, the ancient dreams of revival of the Holy Roman Empire Of Charlemagne with its seat in Jerusalem never died, as a matter of fact, are alive as ever in this pope’s mind. TO SUPPLANT JUDAISM AND MAKE THE POPE THE SUPREME RELIGIOUS AND TEMPORAL POWER OF THE RENEWED HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE GOAL. For this, I will refer you to the end of this essay, which has a lot of links, quotes, and information. Be ready for some long and good reading!

        How did Rome go about doing this?

        This is where deception comes in big time:
        http://jewjewsjewish.blogspot.ca/2009/03/vaticans-plot-against-jerusalem.html

  • Texas Ride

    “Its time,” for people to get a little humor and stop being so full of themselves. Take Ben’s commentary for what it is meant to be…poking fun at ridicules people and situations.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      One of the hallmarks of secular liberalism is that there is absolutely no fixed framework at all. In the absence of any inviolable absolutes, there are no unthinkable acts to perform; there are few rules to violate. Liberal doctrine banishes humor precisely because it also banishes the underlying standards upon which humor depends. If nothing is absolutely good and nothing is unthinkably bad, nothing can be funny.

  • Warrior

    When Bill and Hillary first got married Bill said, “I am putting a box under the bed. You must promise never to look in it.”

    In all their 30 years of marriage, Hillary never looked. On the afternoon of their 30th anniversary, curiosity got the best of her and she lifted the lid and peeked inside.

    In the box were 3 empty beer cans and $81,874.25 in cash.

    She closed the box and put it back under the bed. Now that she knew what was in the box, she was doubly curious as to why there even was such a box with such contents.

    That evening, they were out for a special anniversary dinner.

    After dinner, Hillary could no longer contain her curiosity and she confessed, saying, “I am so sorry, Bill. For all these years, I kept my promise and never looked into the box under our bed. However, today the temptation was too much and I gave in. But now I need to know, why do you keep the 3 beer cans in the box?”

    Bill thought for a while and said, “I guess after all these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I was unfaithful to you, I put an empty beer can in the box under the bed to remind myself not to do it again.”

    Hillary was shocked, but said, “Hmmm, Jennifer, Paula and Monica. I am very disappointed and saddened by your behavior. However, since you are addicted to sex I guess it does happen and I guess 3 times is not that bad considering your problem.”

    Bill thanked her for being so understanding. They hugged and made their peace. A little while later Hillary asked Bill, “So why do you have all that money in the box?”

    Bill answered: “Well, whenever the box filled up with empty cans, I took them to the recycling center and redeemed them for cash.”

    Oh, “At this point, what does it matter”? Right on hillary!

    • dan

      now that there is a funny story….but is it true ? hmmm

      • Michael J.

        dan,
        Everything you see and hear is 80% true. Same as the case of Jesse Jackson Jr. who after hearing about this administrations advice as to the best defense against being raped, decided to defocate in his shorts since he will soon be bunking with Bubba.

      • Dennis48e

        When the Clitons left the whitehouse they were supposedly flat broke and in debt. When they moved to NY they curiously had enough money to rent offices and purchase a multimillion $ house. The money had to come from somewhere.

        • Bob666

          Yo Dennis,
          Speaking tours and book deals, Just like every other president. Come back with a harder questions that requires some effort.

      • JUKEBOX

        Most good humor has a good amount of truth to it.

      • Dennis48e

        Bob I did not pose a question (shows your reading and comprehension skills) I stated a fact.

        • Bob666

          Yo Dennis,
          “Bob I did not pose a question (shows your reading and comprehension skills) I stated a fact”.

          And I stated a fact as well.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      LOL!!! Good one, Warrior!

      • jopa

        Dennis48: Bob666 was right in giving his reply in order to satisfy your curiosity or did you want to be left in the dark and curious for the rest of your life.Clinton is making millions on speeches, books and personal appearances today.He is one of the most popular human beings on the earth and everyone wants to be seen or associated with him.We will also like to thank you in advance for your upcoming support of Hillary in 2016.Thank you once again.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        jopa: Clinton is making millions on speeches, books and personal appearances today.He is one of the most popular human beings on the earth and everyone wants to be seen or associated with him.

        True, but his reputation ain’t worth a lick, and for that reason, he is the most popular human being on the planet; as the people who wish to be associated with him are people of similar stripe; untrustworthy, dishonest, deceitful, double-dealing, treacherous, traitorous, two-faced, duplicitous, mendacious, dishonorable, unprincipled, unscrupulous, corrupt, slippery; unreliable, undependable, fly-by-night, capricious, fickle; informal hinky.

        Considering that the majority of democrats on the planet are such as described above, naturally then, they would desire to identify themselves with the one(s) who personify and are the epitome of such a dysfunctional-carachter! Birds of a feather, flock together…

        • Bob666

          Oh WTS,
          As Regan use to say, “there you go again”.

          Your response suggest that the GOP is pure and inocent?-Horse Hockey!

          OH, by the way, Slick Willies popularity has never been higher amoung republicans.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        666: Your response suggest that the GOP is pure and inocent?-Horse Hockey!

        I implied no such thing. If i had, you would have been right in your response; horse-pucky! No, and far be it from me to suggest such a thing…rather, i would suggest that one can scarcely point out any differences between the two; but one could certainly point out the many similarities between the two.

        • Bob666

          Yo WTS,
          “people who wish to be associated with him are people of similar stripe; untrustworthy, dishonest, deceitful, double-dealing, treacherous, traitorous, two-faced, duplicitous, mendacious, dishonorable, unprincipled, unscrupulous, corrupt, slippery; unreliable, undependable, fly-by-night, capricious, fickle; informal hinky.

          Considering that the “majority of democrats on the planet” are such as described above”,

          Yes, I must have mis-read that.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        We were not talking about the GOP, 666. We were talking about Clinton, and Clinton is a Democrat. If you want to talk about the GOP, we can do that as well. Please proceed…

      • sam1966

        I second that motion. Warrior, D’OH! :-) :-) :-) Here is something that shows how the 5th column is affecting the mental health of relatives who die from botched abortions.

        http://www.lifenews.com/2011/07/27/siblings-of-people-dying-in-abortions-suffer-depression/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The cultivation of the religious sentiment represses licentiousness…inspires respect for law and order, and gives strength to the whole social fabric.”

        Daniel Webster

        • Bob666

          Oh sammybabble1966,

          A pro-life web site, we know how objective that propagandais ie; information is going to be.

          Start any holy-wars latey?

      • sam1966

        Since when is it wrong to be pro-life and a Christian, Bob? Here is something showing you and your 5th column ilk’s state of mind.

        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/05/obsessed-with-death-kermit-gosnell-kept-jars-of-severed-baby-feet/

        At least there is one more murderer of the streets. Hopefully, he will be given the death penalty. Woe unto them that harm the innocent, for it would be better that a millweight be placed about their neck and they be cast into the sea. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

        Illinois State Supreme Court
        Richmond vs. Moore 1885

    • jopa

      WARRIOR:Now that was a good one there Warrior.You should be a writer for Ben he truly needs the help.

  • FreedomFighter

    The Great 8, excellent as usual

    You want another chuckle, check this out, Bite-Me Biden does it again or why we should not elect morons:

    Joe Biden Says Women Need a Shot Gun Not An AR15
    http://www.infowars.com/joe-biden-says-women-need-a-shot-gun-not-an-ar15/

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • tony newbill

      Freedom fighter there seems to be a disagreement between the factions of the Cooky-crats on shotguns …….

      Popular Standard Shotgun Could Be Banned Under Proposed Bill

      http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/03/01/popular-standard-shotgun-could-be-banned-under-proposed-bill/

    • Old Henry

      FreedomFighter:

      That’s a great video! LMAO!

      When he shows in public they need to play Send in the Clown…

    • sam1966

      Here is what happens when you are married to a libturd and traitor.

      http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/teddy-turner-jane-fonda/2013/02/21/491486?s=alpromo_code=128C6-1

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “To the free and universal reading of the Bible in that age, men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty. The Bible is a book which teaches man his own individual responsibility, his own dignity, and his equality with his fellow man.”

      Daniel Webster

      • Bob666

        And sammy in down on the mat begging for forgivness for being so wrong!

      • sam1966

        I shall not answer this posting of yours the way I should, for it would make you blush and possibly get me banned. Ergo, I’ll ignore it. Try to grow up and be a MAN. Have a good day 5th columner. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “When the people rise in masses in behalf of the Union and the liberties of their country, truly may it be said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.”

        Abraham Lincoln

        • Bob666

          CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,

          “You need both love of country and faith in my God to be a patriot. This leaves you out

          CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,CINO,

      • sam1966

        This is where you do err, Bob. Name calling and saying that God is yours and not someone elses shows you are a hypocrite. Remember, the Lord our God is the God of all, not just select individuals, as you seem to believe. Please, as Sook Young would say, quit being so childish. You just give yourself no credibility on this site. But alas! Bob doesn’t even go by the comment policy stated by Bob Livingston, but yet judges others. Do not answer unless you can bring something of substance to the table. Here is something showing that Obama bin Laden has violated his oath and the Constitution by attacking Biblical marriage.

        http://www.lastresistance.com/1487/obama-seeking-to-criminalize-biblical-concept-of-marriage/

        This is what happens when you elect a pretender into office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superceded by no power on earth.”

        George Mason
        “Father” of the Bill of Rights

  • Karolyn

    You can tell Ben’s running out of material when he makes a crack about Barbra Streisand?

    • Michael J.

      Karolyn,
      If you wish to shield Streisand from just humiliation, simply submit a photo of yourself. That should provide ample material for several life time careers.

      Try to smile more often, it will improve your face value.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        “A dupe Karolyn lays open her folly.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 13)

        Michael, Miss Karolyn’s two-cell twisted into the pretzel brain is running out of the Grey Matter. It explains her lamebrainess.

        Ron White said: “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER” .
        I am totally agree with Ron White.

    • AK Tom

      Karolyn your comments only add even more to the humor on this site. This administration is giving Ben an endless supply of material every week. If anything he has too much to wade through as is. Another good one Ben, as per usual.

    • Hedgehog

      Was that Barbra Streisand? I thought Cher had decided to go blond!

    • Ted Crawford

      While Barbra Streisand has no equal as a singer and song writer, IMHO, and she’s pretty darn good at acting in the mix, for an obscenely wealthy, Woman, of Jewish origin, to pander to the Progressive mantra is a text-book example of extreme self-loathing!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Barbara Striesand is not much of a singer or actress but she is a typical self loathing Jew.
        She panders to the Progs/Dems/Leftists because she still has enough animal cunning to know where her food (money can be made) comes from.

        • Bob666

          Yo Frau Nadzieja Batki,

          “Barbara Striesand is not much of a singer or actress but she is a typical self loathing Jew.
          She panders to the Progs/Dems/Leftists because she still has enough animal cunning to know where her food (money can be made) comes from”.

          Who would of thought you to be a member of the aryan race?

    • sam1966

      Barbara may have have been good in her day, but now she has fallen to the ranks of the has been. When she passes on into the here after, she will be forgotten in time. Unlike Whitney Houston, who was a very gifted singer, though she had problems, will never be forgotten. Sook Young and I have all of her CDs. Here is something showing how the 5th column thinks about women.

      http://www.lifenews.com/2013/02/18/democrat-women-worried-about-rape-shouldn‘t defend-themselves-with-guns/

      FOR GOR AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “:Duty is ours, results are God’s”

      John Quincy Adams

  • dan

    …better than running out of family….high point in a hard week.,Ben. Thanks for a laugh or two…double secret Jihad…lolol’s

  • nc

    Michael. what about the wizardry of the carrier of that “unborn’ clump of cells. Should that PERSON not be taken into account? That CITIZEN WHO HAS ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED PAIN! That citizen who is fully endowed with that right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!
    If it’s religion you are trying to uphold.. God(?) who made the first cells sure puts a lot of them down the toilets with miscarriages! How much possibly “wizardry” did God(?) lay waste to???
    We Liberals are perfectly happy with the Roe v. Wade gift of the Republican Party that happened long before the arrival of the Pied Piper from the Kenyan Bush! Don’t you wish you could prove in a court of law that he is from Kenya? Your inability to do so is the real cause of your ” collective chagrin”‘

    AGAIN, OUR THANKS TO THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS FOR ROE V. WADE!!

    • FreedomFighter

      NC you always think in left or right, in reality both parties are elites and just trade to each other the ability for rip off us peons when they gain power in office. If your research M. Sanger you will find abortion was created to “kill the weeds”.

      A further study would show to you an agenda of EUGENICS supported by the elites to control the population birth rates and growth. Its evil incarnate, murder of the unborn, and of course “We Liberals are perfectly happy with the Roe v. Wade “ because Liberalism is a mental disorder.

      So you know, I was a lifelong Atheist until my near death experience, and my disgust with idiots that believed was just as nasty as yours – a glimpse of the “darkness and torment” during my flat line changed me – you see this world is not all that is and you really want to be on the side of God the other side holds only “darkness and torment”

      Your choice, it’s not about religion, it’s about a personal relationship with your creator.

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • Old Henry

        Glad to read you have seen the light (no pun intended).
        Have you been baptised FreedomFighter?

      • FreedomFighter

        Yes Old Henry and been learning all I can, for what is coming.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Brilliantly stated, FF!!!

      • JUKEBOX

        I believe the liberals are stupid enough to take the chance that there is no God or judgement day.

      • Vicki

        JUKEBOX says:
        “I believe the liberals are stupid enough to take the chance that there is no God or judgement day.”

        For those that are not too stupid, I would recommend Pascal’s Wager.

    • sam1966

      Sheesh! Here is no cajones supporting the infanticide practices of Margaret Sanger and the 5th colum. Since February was Black History Month, here is something that we should know.

      http://www.lifenews.com/2013/02/15/black-history-month-abortion-has-killed-16-million-black-children/

      FOR GOS AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves NC out.

      “History is God’s providence in human affairs.”

      Daniel Webster

  • JR

    In defense of Maxine Waters, there ARE a total of 57 states (at least according to Obama), so the number MIGHT be correct…

  • jopa

    Rumor has it Mutt Rumney is making the rounds again.Was he stuck in his auto elevator or did he just crawl out from under his landslide victory.He still can’t believe he lost and it was his turn according to Annie.ROFLMAO

    • Old Henry

      Well, judging from the massive nation-wide voter fraud that has been uncovered to date it appears that the results are somewhat foggy. Oh well, what’s one more criminal act from a gangster.

      • JUKEBOX

        If every Obama supporter voted six times, like that woman who admitted she did and did nothing wrong, it is no wonder that he didn’t get 65% of the vote.

      • jopa

        Old HENRY: I probably would have voted a couple more times that day also but I was busy mowing on the grassy knoll.By the way you wanna buy a bridge??After I did that demo job for Dubya on 911 I don’t need the Brooklyn Bridge anymore.If you are ever in DC I have a building for you also.The Pentagon.It’s that hexagon shaped building.

      • DEEPTHROAT

        Jopa, I have the entire file that Breitbart was going to use against Obama, but it will go directly to Lanny Davis and Bob Woodward if anything happens to me.

        • Bob666

          Now that that brings back memories! LMAO

      • Old Henry

        Jopa:

        Are you willfully that ignorant, or are you simply too stupid to understand what has occurred?

        You seem to be able to read, but your comprehension seems to be inadequate. Or do you simply choose to not pay attention to what is coming to light in news reports?

        You are a textbook example of why we must institute voter control in order to prevent the commission of mass stupidity.

      • sam1966

        Here is one reason why our country is turning out so many libturd/progturd 5th columners.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/03/how-progressive-education-and-bad-philosophy-corrupted-the-people-undermined-the-constitution-of-the-united-states/

        This is why Jopa, Bob antichrist, Jeff, Robert Smith, etc., are the way they are. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the right which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.”

        Benjamin Franklin

        *This is why our government is more tyrannical then it is supposed to be. The people don’t really know their rights.

        • Bob666

          Oh Sammy,
          Stubborn, stubborn facts:
          United States Constitution:

          The First Amendment
          “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”

          Article VI, Section 3
          “…no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

          John Adams (the second President of the United States):

          Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
          “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”

          From a letter to Charles Cushing (October 19, 1756):
          “Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, ‘this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.’”

          From a letter to Thomas Jefferson:
          “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved — the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”

          Additional quotes from John Adams:
          “Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?”

          “The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.”

          “…Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”

          Thomas Jefferson (the third President of the United States):

          Jefferson’s interpretation of the first amendment in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association (January 1, 1802):
          “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”

          From Jefferson’s biography:
          “…an amendment was proposed by inserting the words, ‘Jesus Christ…the holy author of our religion,’ which was rejected ‘By a great majority in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and the Infidel of every denomination.’”

          Jefferson’s “The Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom”:
          “Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than on our opinions in physics and geometry….The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

          From Thomas Jefferson’s Bible:
          “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”

          Jefferson’s Notes on Virginia:
          “Reason and persuasion are the only practicable instruments. To make way for these free inquiry must be indulged; how can we wish others to indulge it while we refuse ourselves? But every state, says an inquisitor, has established some religion. No two, say I, have established the same. Is this a proof of the infallibility of establishments?”

          And sammy is thrown to the floor in a choke hold and gives up because…he is wrong!

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        I am sorry, But if you truly knew the Lord, or His Word, you would see that none of these things are in conflict with God. God gives us all the freedom of choice. I Praise God that Government cannot force us to conform to a certain religion.
        Bob, you have a lot of good to offer. Please don’t spoil it by attacking God.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          thank you for your concern, perhaps you could explain to me, just where have I been attacking God???

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        I am glad to her you are not attacking God. It sounded like you were here. I didn’t think you were ever doing it before.
        No one is disputing that the Government cannot establish a religion, but tell me how can you separate yourself from the goodness of the Lord if you know Him and love Him and happen to be in politics? There would be no way.
        There are many that say that if you are a Christian you have no business running for political office. (As corrupt as they are they would probably corrupt a Christian if they stayed in politics too long) but we do need Christians to stand up and become involved. Another point if you and I serve the same God, and I believe we do, then you serve the same God that Samuari does. He is a Christian man.

        • sam1966

          Thanks Jana. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is something about teaching Creationism in Russia.

          http://www.creation.com/creation-education-in-russia

          Looks like God, Jesus, and the Bible are starting to win there, but when to we start classes on it here? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          “Your first great duties, you are sensible, are those you owe to heaven, to your Creator, and redeemer. Let these be ever present to you minds and exemplified in your lives and conduct.”

          William Samuel Johnson

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          I do not attack Christians. I will on ocaision take issue with someone who does vile things in the name of god. There are a lot of vile people on this site who spew massive amouts of hate and do so in gods name. Hate is a four letter word and god does not use it or condone it.

          While Sam is low on the hate, he is not a christian, nor is he godly. he is anytthing but. He is a CINO.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        I have known Sam on this site for about 3 years now and I know you have misjudged him greatly.
        People could misjudge you also by the way you write many times as you do appear to come against Biblical values in so many ways, but they would be wrong correct? So we must be very careful when we judge someone.

        I must confess I don’t comprehend your point that you are trying to make.
        We all know that the Government is not supposed to create a religion as this is what they did in England. The Church of England was the only church sanctioned for a very long time. This is why our forefathers came to America in the first place so it stands to reason they would put it in the Constitution and it says:
        ———————————————————–
        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
        ——————————————————————————-

        It does not say separation of church and state, or preferring one religion over another. According to Wikipedia there were 40 signers of the Constitution, therefore no matter what one or two said as to the intent or non intent, it was not put in there. Just recently when it became prudent to the powers that be that we should take God out of our vocabulary and be oh so politically correct, did the Supreme Court decide that yes there should be a separation between the two. Which is much like a slap in the face to our God.
        Why?
        Because God is the one they are rejecting not some stupid church. The reason there are so many churches is because there are so many people with so many interpretations. Instead of taking the Bible and reading it verse by verse, chapter by chapter and actually going back to the original Greek and Hebrew to find out what it really means, they make a whole church standard on one or two verses out of the Bible.
        In Revelation there are only 2 churches that are accepted by God. Just 2. The rest have failed and God says He has somewhat against them. WOW.
        —–So when you are talking about what you wrote ““The Doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity.” Thomas Jefferson—————
        Yes I can comprehend what he was talking about.
        They made serving God in the Old Testament a convenient cover for absurdity too, by infiltering the Kenites into the Priests of God.

        • Bob666

          Jana,
          I don’t know what our founding fathers were thinking when they wrote the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Declaration of Independence, but our CINO friend Sam claims to have divine knowledge and makes everyone aware of this every time that he makes a post.

          What I do know is the majority of the signers were in fact Christian and over two thirds were Masons. I do know how Free Masonry defines god and I believe that I have a pretty good idea of their intent because I see the Masonic influence throughout these documents.

          That being the case, it does not qualify me to “preach” the intentions of our founding fathers or for anyone else to do so in that case. As we look at the document:

          “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

          “It does not say separation of church and state, or preferring one religion over another”

          The broad interpretation is; there is no state sponsored religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. To me, that means every citizen has the right to worship how, where, when and to what faith they choose.

          That is my personal belief and no one has the right to deny me that right nor do I have the right to deny you or our CINO friend Sam that right. What I find (as well as others) particularly offensive is CINO Sam’s need and ability to judge my patriotism or the patriotism of anyone else.

          I know score of Jews, Muslims, Hindu’s Buddhist, Bahia and Atheist who are loyal patriotic Americans and have this guy act as if he gets to decide and judge based on his small standards is well, just plain un-American.

          In closing, let me ask you a question that I believe you may be well equipped to answer. Why was Moses not allowed to enter the promised land?

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        Because he disobeyed God. The people were murmering and mad because they didn’t have water. Instead of asking God for water they got mad at Moses.
        God told Moses to strike the Rock ONCE and water would spring forth. Moses was angry and struck the rock twice.
        This rock is believed to be the Stone of Scone by many scholars which is why Moses should NOT have disobeyed God. This stone has great significance.

        • Bob666

          Jana,
          You are correct and I was sure that you would not disapoint me in your answer. We all will have our time with god at some point to review our conduct in this life.

          Sam will get his time just as you and I will.

          I will leave the ability to judge people with God. If Sam is a true Chistian, he will do the same.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Jana,

          You write: “God told Moses to strike the Rock ONCE and water would spring forth. Moses was angry and struck the rock twice.” Correction. God told Moses to speak to the rock. Numbers 20:6ff:
          “Then Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly to the entrance of the tent of meeting and fell on their faces. And the glory of the LORD appeared to them, 7 and the LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 8 ‘Take the staff, and assemble the congregation, you and Aaron your brother, and tell the rock before their eyes to yield its water. So you shall bring water out of the rock for them and give drink to the congregation and their cattle.’ 9 And Moses took the staff from before the LORD, as he commanded him.10 Then Moses and Aaron gathered the assembly together before the rock, and he said to them, ‘Hear now, you rebels: shall we bring water for you out of this rock?’ 11 And Moses lifted up his hand and struck the rock with his staff twice, and water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their livestock. 12 And the LORD said to Moses and Aaron, ‘Because you did not believe in me, to uphold me as holy in the eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this assembly into the land that I have given them.’”

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        Maybe you see Masonic influence in these documents because the Masonic influence came from God and His word. I see Biblical influence in our Constitution. When God is our head, it all has one source.
        You say you see many Muslims that are Patriotic, however with their belief system if they are true Muslim they truly cannot be Patriotic, as we have been seeing of late. Now there may be many cultures that are but not most hard Muslims.
        I have also studied the Qu’ran and the Hadiths for a couple of years now since we have had so much going on in the ME. What I have learned of this religion and its founder Muhammad would shake your bones. They are not a nice people and they are out to take us over.
        They do believe they are bringing about the 12th Imadi, which is in the Bible called the Anit Chirst.

        By the way, I am definitely NOT an expert on the Bible, but I do know enough to find out most answers. there is still a lot of answers I don’t know or have. That will come one day -when I get to heaven.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        Remember Sam says,” You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.”
        He does not say you must be a Christian. Each of these “religions” have a god. It is imperative that you love your country to be patriotic.
        Sam is standing for something he believes in, and he is standing for God.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          Respectfully, I disagree with you. His post are very specific and he feels incline to tell who is and is not a patriot.

          Sam is a CINO and his day of judgment will occur, just like Moses and that rock.

      • Jana

        Bob Livingston,
        You are so right. I went by my (faulty) memory and should have looked it up. Thank you. Hopefully I will not make the mistake again of not looking it up.

      • sam1966

        Actually Bob, you, not I, am the CINO. Who are you to judge me, especially since I’ve done more for this country than you have. Who made you God? You talk about judgement? All will be judged by God on Judgement Day, but are you ready to meet God and be judged? I don’t think so. Jana, it is true that other religions have what they call a god. Either Hindi, Shinto, Buddha, Allah, etc., but they are all false gods. It says, “Thou shalt have no others gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto the any graven image.” The 1st and 2nd Commandments. The Judeo-Christian God is the one true God and to follow others is folly. I also see that Bob likes breaking the 9th Commandment, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” To say that Christianity, beliefs in God, Jesus, and the Bible had nothing to do with our founding is just plain ignorant. I’ve just gotten a posting from you calling me a loser and how God, remember it is God, not god, is yours and not mine. You are no Christian, so please quit with the impersonating. Here is a report telling us that an abortion doctor, murderer, is going to court on a charge of murder for cutting spinal cords of children during abortions.

        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/03/jury-selection-begins-monday-on-abortion-doc-who-snipped-spinal-cords/

        Looks like our God is bringing someone to justice for slaying the innocent. Woe unto them that harm the innocent. For it would be better to have a millweight placed around their neck and they be cast into the sea. Remember that one Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”

        John Quincy Adams 1837

        • Bob666

          CINO Sammy1966
          “Actually Bob, you, not I, am the CINO. Who are you to judge me, especially since I’ve done more for this country than you have”

          What have you done Sammy, You have no clear Idea about me-only what your limited imagination provides you-Limited, but you think that you have done more and that gives you the right to judge-CINO.

          ” Who made you God? You talk about judgement? All will be judged by God on Judgement Day” No one made me God you old fool. I am treating you exactly the way that you treat everyone eles-Sucks does it not?

          “but are you ready to meet God and be judged? I don’t think so Any day and I feel quite fine with the prospect!.

          “Jana, it is true that other religions have what they call a god. Either Hindi, Shinto, Buddha, Allah, etc., but they are all false gods”.

          I rest my case Jana-Old fool and CINO.

          “It says, “Thou shalt have no others gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto the any graven image.” The 1st and 2nd Commandments. The Judeo-Christian God is the one true God and to follow others is folly.” Rock and Water CINO, Rock and Water!

          My god wins-your CINO A$$ loses, your out!

      • Jana

        Sam,
        You wrote——”Jana, it is true that other religions have what they call a god. Either Hindi, Shinto, Buddha, Allah, etc., but they are all false gods. It says, “Thou shalt have no others gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto the any graven image.” The 1st and 2nd Commandments. The Judeo-Christian God is the one true God and to follow others is folly.” ——
        You are right. I was trying to be a peacemaker, but I was wrong and should not have answered that way as all of these other gods allah budah the hindu god they are all false gods. There is only One True God.

        Our precious Heavenly Father does not want us worshiping false gods or idols.

        Deut 6:14-15

        14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples that are round about you;

        15 for Jehovah thy God in the midst of thee is a jealous God; lest the anger of Jehovah thy God be kindled against thee, and he destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

        Ex 20:5-7

        5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them, for I Jehovah thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me,

        6 and showing lovingkindness unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

        7 Thou shalt not take the name of Jehovah thy God in vain; for Jehovah will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

        Ex 34:14

        14 for thou shalt worship no other god: for Jehovah, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

        • Bob666

          Sam,
          ” You wrote——”Jana, it is true that other religions have what they call a god. Either Hindi, Shinto, Buddha, Allah, etc., but they are all false gods. It says, “Thou shalt have no others gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto the any graven image.” The 1st and 2nd Commandments. The Judeo-Christian God is the one true God and to follow others is folly.” ——
          You are right. I was trying to be a peacemaker, but I was wrong and should not have answered that way as all of these other gods allah budah the hindu god they are all false gods. There is only One True God.

          Our precious Heavenly Father does not want us worshiping false gods or idols.”

          And that is why more people have been killed in the name of god than for all ofther reasons combined through out the history of man kind.

          Any-body up for a holy war or inqusition?

      • Jana

        And one more thing,
        I have no idea what a CINO is.

        • Bob666

          Jana,
          Christian In Name Only.

      • sam1966

        Just ignore Bob, Jana. He is a blowhard and knows not what he is talking about. He has described himself well as being a CINO. Here is something about Penn and Teller and they sound somewhat like Bob.

        http://www.americanvision.com/7214/magicians-penn-teller-atheistic-frauds/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “I love this land that gave me birth; I love the Stars and Stripes. This country is where I intend to live – where I expect to die. To preserve the honor of the national flag…thousands of noble…colored men have fought.”

        Rep. John Lynch
        1875

        • Bob666

          Yo CINO Sammybabble 1966
          The diferance between you and me CINO Sam is pretty obvious.

          Some of us have the personal security and confidence to state an opinion standing on our own two feet. People like you have to go to mega churches and pumped up with Jesus to feel good about yourself. You have to quote your beliefs in two or more alias to spread the word sometimes one post after the other which really make us question your mental stability.

          Yes, you can quote scripture as well as anyone, but while you may be able to talk the talk, you just can’t walk the talk and that is your personal failure as a human being. There is no hate that I have brought here, just a challenge for you to man up and stand on your own two feet like any man should be able to do.

          Yet, your response is to bring a bunch of metals that you claim you have as people can claim to be anything on the internet, want to add a congressional medal of honor, I’m sure that at some point you will since people like you embellish everything that you do, it’s just your insecurity that is obvious.

          No, CINO Sam, you’re just an insecure old man who has seen life pass him by and right now, you are just trying to make up for you have yet to accomplish. Jesus accepted everyone and turned no one a way. Jesus was about love and tolerance, not hate and we don’t see that in any of your post.

          It’s all about Love CINO Sam, that is why I can easily question your faith. As my mom use to say, you either have it or you don’t and if you have it, that is apparent to everyone around you because you don’t have to prove it to anyone.

          You work way to hard at trying to prove something that sadly does not exist. I have a very real and solid relationship with my creator and you have no idea of who that is since I have no need to prove it to you or anyone else.

          I hope that one day you will be as fortunate as I am when it comes to faith and that is yet another major difference between us. I accept all people where you exclude based on you’re perception of people and that in most cases has proven to be wrong. I only take issue with people when they demonstrate hate as you have.

          I guess the best comment that I can leave you with is what a very wise man of tremendous and obvious faith told me an a young man; open your heart and mind to all that god provides and you will flourish in the glory of god. Claim an absolute knowledge of anything and you will Close your mind and heart and experience nothing.

          Your choice and that will probably be your loss as well. I am sure that you will respond with some BS as to why I am wrong and you are the chosen one.

      • jana

        Bob666,
        Any-body up for a holy war or inqusition?————–

        Whatever.
        That is between you and the ONE TRUE GOD. He is the one who said not to have any other gods before HIM, not me. HE is able to fight HIS own battles just fine.

        Have at it.

        • sam1966

          Bob is beginning to sound like Robert Smith by suggesting an inquisition. Here is the latest news coming from South America.

          http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/05/Venezuelas-Hugo-Chavez-has-died

          One less enemy of the U.S. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          “Those who are not ruled by God, will be ruled by tyrants.”

          William Penn

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,

          “That is between you and the ONE TRUE GOD. He is the one who said not to have any other gods before HIM, not me. HE is able to fight HIS own battles just fine”

          You are correct, it’s the people like Sam who choose to do vile things in his name that concern me. That is why more people have been killed in the name of god than all other reasons combined.

          holy wars & inqusitions were done by people just like Sam in the name of god, by people who felt impowered to because they were CINO’s.

          For what it is worth, I believe your intentions are good, but I respectfully diasagree on Islam, there are things in the old and new testament that really make my bones shake as well.

          Faith in god is a good thing, it is the people who lack respect for those of other faiths that end up causing the problems.

      • jana

        Bob666

        Your response really bothers me. It makes me know that you don’t have a very strong foundation in Christianity.

        You sound like you may have come from a Muslim background in some way or another.

        For you to say that there are things in the Old and New Testament that really make your bones shake as well says you don’t understand the Bible at all.

        The Old Testament is not God’s dealings with the whole world at that time, it was actually God’s dealings with a family that Christ was going to be born in through Mary. Satan attacked this family and wanted to destroy this family and God intervened over and over. If Satan couldn’t kill them he wanted to infiltrate them and have them worship him. God could not nor would not allow that. This is a very simplistic synopsis, and the family grew quite large as you know.

        Over and over God told His people to stay away from and not intermarry with those who worshipped false gods and false idols, but they were weak and would intermarry and then would start turning to these false gods themselves. Then God would have to intervene.

        Many of those inquisitions you were talking about were not done by people like Sam, they were done by God and people like Sam were being used by God and being obedient to God.

        You said faith in God is a good thing??? Faith in God is an awesome thing. Accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior is the only way to make it to heaven.
        I don’t know what makes your bones shake about the New Testament. But the more you study the more you understand. The more you understand, the more you know you have to study more. The Word is alive and keeps growing in your heart.

        Yes we can have respect for other people no matter what their religion, but we don’t have to respect their religion and I do not respect any false religion. Love the sinner, but not the sin as the Bible says.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          Just one question, have you ever lived outside of the United States?

          • http://naver samurai

            Have you Bob? I’ve lived in many countries overseas while in the military. Here is something showing how a 5th columner speaks badly to a rape victim.

            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/9738/democrat-to-rape-victim-a-gun-would-not-have-helped-you/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            The Centurian answered and said, Lord, I am not worthy that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the word only, and my servant shall be healed.

            Matthew 8:8

      • jana

        Bob666,
        I have been outside of the United States to many countries. What difference does that make?
        God is God, Truth is Truth, no matter what country or what state or what age you are in.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          It makes a lot of difference and I will take that as a no. You have an Americanized view of Christianity. The one thing in my travels that I have noticed is that people all over world are basically decent -no matter what religion they believe in.

          As for what I have stated, Religion and faith are good in their proper perspective. It is and has always been man that screws it up. There are ban Muslims just as there are bad Christians and bad Jews. It is the most radical and ultra orthodox that set the stage for what everyone thinks about a particular religion.

          Would you like to discuss some of the crimes against humanity that many who have called themselves Christians have been responsible for?

          You are correct Jana, hate the sin, love the sinner and that applies to all religions as well.

      • sam1966

        Jana, Bob is just here to stir the waters. Always talking about how my God wins and yours doesn’t clearly shows he is no Christian. Only the Lord our God is God and no others. Jesus is his Son and our Savior. Just ignore him and he’ll go away. Notice how he answered Matrix on this thread and you’ll see he is no Christian. Here are a couple of sites showing our country’s Christian founding based on the Old Testiment.

        lawandliberty.org/history1htm
        faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government

        Sorry about not adding the “www.”, but if I did, my post might not make it through moderation. Keep up the good fight Jana, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

        Patrick Henry
        March 23, 1775

        *Need to learn more about our history Bob.

        • Bob666

          Yo CINO,
          For a guy who has such faith, you sure seem to be concerned with defending yourself and your faith?

      • jana

        Bob666,
        It makes a lot of difference and I will take that as a no. You have an Americanized view of Christianity. The one thing in my travels that I have noticed is that people all over world are basically decent -no matter what religion they believe in.

        As for what I have stated, Religion and faith are good in their proper perspective. It is and has always been man that screws it up. There are ban Muslims just as there are bad Christians and bad Jews. It is the most radical and ultra orthodox that set the stage for what everyone thinks about a particular religion.

        Would you like to discuss some of the crimes against humanity that many who have called themselves Christians have been responsible for?

        You are correct Jana, hate the sin, love the sinner and that applies to all religions as well.

        Actually Bob, you are wrong. Christianity is Christianity no matter how you look at it. It is a way of life, it is a relationship with our Lord.

        I have had family that has lived in different countries for extended times and they have fellow shipped with other Christians in those countries and they were the same (like minded). Germans, Belgians, in Great Britain, Iraq, Peru, Sweden etc. They all follow the same belief system which is Judeo Christian.

        It seems that you have an outsiders view of Christianity.

        Muslims have their religion worldwide too. Some are radical, some are not and some are lukewarm. But even here in the United States they are following the same path.

        The same with Buddhists. I have met some lovely people of this faith, but they have brought their faith to this country. No I do not honor nor respect their faith. It is false with their little false gold statue.

        I am well aware that there are good and bad among every race and culture. I will repeat what I said. We can love and respect each and every person, but we do not have to nor should we love or respect their religion when we know it is a FALSE RELIGION and they worship a false god. God does not tolerate it, He is the one who gave us that order, and those who do not honor that order are the reasons for the insurrections.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          “It seems that you have an outsiders view of Christianity”

          No, actually is would be a Global view of Christianity.

          I do so enjoy our conversations.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        You are right, you have a global view all right. What you need to have though is a Biblical view. That’s the one that counts.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,

          It’s not what you know, it is what you feel in your heart. There are many who can quote the Torah, the Koran and the Bible.

          That is not proof of faith, it is proof they can read.

      • Jana

        It’s not what you know, it is what you feel in your heart.???

        You are wrong, we go by faith, not by feeling but it’s your ship Bob, sail it as you see fit.
        Rom 10:17

        17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
        KJV

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          the world is not black and white, it is many shades of grey.

          “You are wrong, we go by faith, not by feeling but it’s your ship Bob, sail it as you see fit.”

          To my knowledge, there are two variations on the Catholic church and one of the Greek Orthodox church that existed before and from that spun off the Russian Orthodox church. Succeeding from the Catholic church, were multiple denominations of the protestant churches such as the Anglican church, Lutheran church, Presbyterian church, Methodist church and many variations of the Baptist church and I have yet to touch the Assemblies of God or a multitude of independent Christian churches or the Mormons and Seventh Day Adventist and my favorites, the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

          If we went into old and new Europe, we could come up with more that I would bet you never heard off that use the new testament as a guide for their beliefs.

          Let us not forget that all of the above are descendants of the Jewish faith since the buck started with the Jews and they have four variations of Judaism that I am aware of, but I am sure my knowledge is limited.

          The point that I am making is; there are millions of people that can read the bible and read a similar but different meaning into what is written and there in no one authority walking the face of the earth to settle who is correct in the absolute interpretation of the bible, old or new testament.

          As one of my neighbors once said; we all go to heaven, there is just a different seating arrangement and that is based on how you live your life. Since my neighbor was a Rabbi with a doctorate in religious studies and IMHO, a man of tremendous faith that he lived every day, I am going with what I feel in my heart.

          BTW, there is no hate in my heart nor judgment of your personal beliefs as I do believe you to be a woman of faith. CINO Sam is a different story and will have his day of explaining like all of us will. This should explain my global view of faith and why my faith rest securly in my heart.

      • sam1966

        Well said Jana. I remember someone in 2008 that kept saying things about the global community. Ooops! I forgot. He is the COOTUS now. Here is something showing Michelle bin Laden saying how churches should serve certain kinds of food.

        http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hallelujah-in-mississippi-michelle-obama-promotes-no-fry-zones-for-churches/article/2522825

        What else will she do to intrude into the lives of the average American? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
        Ye shall know them by their fruits: Do men gather grapes of thorns or figs of thistles?
        Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
        A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
        Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
        Wherefore, by their fruits ye shall know them.

        Matthew 7:15 – 20

      • Jana

        Thanks SAm,
        I am finished trying to convince Bob of the Truth. He has blinders on. He would rather believe man than God’s Word. But as I said it’s his ship he is free to sail it as he wishes.
        Sam, You have a nice day, and god bless you.

      • Jana

        Oh moan, I have hurt my hand recently and it isn’t working too well. When I try to use my caps sometimes it doesn’t show up, and then sometimes too many show up. Sam should not be with tow capitals and God should have started with a capital.

      • http://naver samurai

        Thanks Jana. It is always good to read your posts and know there is another patriot with a faith in God on this site. May God and Jesus bestow blessings upon you and yours. You also have a good day. Here is something showing how Obama bin Laden feels that kids don’t need mothers.

        http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/doj-children-do-not-need-and-have-no-right-to-mothers

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”

        George Washington
        Speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs
        May 12, 1779

    • http://Yahoo Observing 57

      It’s arithmetic not math. That’s what obama calls it.

      • jopa

        Old Henry: I totally understand why you sign on as Old and not Smart Henry.Deepthroat;Thats a good one “The Breitbart Files” How he choked on his own BS.

      • http://naver samurai

        Here is something showing that the government is preparing for a possible uprising or to take out patriots.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/sarah-palin-feds-are-stockpiling-bullets-for-us/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”

        Daniel Webster

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    “How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a NAUGHTY world” ~ William Shakespeare

    Today is ONE year as Andrew Breitbart was murdered by KKK (Korrupt Kriminal Klan) regime.

    The Leftists and MSM were so despaired to destroy Andrew for daring to expose their corrupt, criminal and lawless nature.

    The HATED him. And he liked it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E35OYaajy3Y

    • jopa

      Alondra: An autopsy was done and it was found that he choked on his own BS.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Jopa, you do not need to confirm each time that your brain consists from your own libtardic BS.

        LIBTARD Jopa a.k.a. Ass (Russian translation) says: “An autopsy was done and it was found that he choked on his own BS.”

        Jopa/Ass, the “official” L.A. Coroner’s report was “heart failure”. But Andrew was alive and very active and the FACTS DO NOT SUPPORT the “official” report.

        UNDENIABLE Facts:
        1. Andrew Breitbart promised that on March 1, 2012 he would release damning video evidence that would damage Barack Obama’s quest to be reelected. And what COINCIDENCE – on March 1, 2012, before the sun rose, Andrew died from the “heart failure”, according to the L.A, Coroner’s Office

        2. Another COINCIDENCE, Andrew Breitbart did call to Sheriff Joe Arpaio “4 to 5 hours before he (Andrew) died,” the day before that Sheriff Arpaio released the results of the first ever law enforcement investigation into the Kenyan’s birth certificate announcing it as a “FORGERY” (March 1, 2012)

        WATCH YouTube Video: “Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Possibility of Andrew Breitbart Assassination”

        3. What COINCIDENCE. The same day Andrew planned to release the tape, which would expose the Kenyan CRIMINAL, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn discussion how to run the presidency.

        The tape revealed that “WHY racial division and class warfare are central to what HOPE & Change were sold us in 2008.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1CacgMWIs

        4. WOW. One more COINCIDENCE. On April 21, 2012, the L.A. Coroner’s Office released its final autopsy report on Andrew Breitbart. That same day, April 21, 2012, Michael Cormier, a FORENSICS TECHNICIAN & CRIMINALIST at the same L.A. Coroner’s Office, who worked on the case of Andrew Breitbart, died SUDDENLY from suspected arsenic poisoning.

        “There are mysterious circumstances surrounding his death … Detectives are looking into the possibility that he was poisoned by arsenic,” police Lt. Alan Hamilton told the Los Angeles Times.

        5. According to a former CIA secretary testifying before a Congressional committee, the CIA has a SECRET WEAPON — a poisoned dart that can INDUCE A FATAL HEART ATTACK. The dart leaves a barely-detectable red dot on the victim’s skin, and dissolves in the body. The poison is UNDETECTABLE in autopsy.

        6. An eye-witness of Breitbart’s sudden collapse onto the ground in a street near his home said Breitbart’s face was bright red — a symptom UNUSUAL for heart attack victims, WHOSE FACES AND LIPS TYPICALLY TURN BLUE. Bright red skin, however, is symptomatic of CYANIDE POISONING.

        Of cause for the leftists ALL above are “mere” COINCIDENCES.

        How do you think Jopa: Who benefited from the deaths of Breitbart and Cormier?

        Who has the power and means to kill Breitbart and Cormier?

        What the FORENSICS TECHNICIAN & CRIMINALIST Michael Cormier could reveal that the Kriminal regime was so afraid of? The TRUE cause of the Andrew death?

        We know the answer. Don’t we?

        “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Mathew 10:26; Luke 8:17)

        P.S. Jopa, your tragedy is that you are afraid of the LIGHT. Come out from your darkness to the LIGHT.

      • sam1966

        Leave it to Jopa to say something very ignorant. Here is what a 5th column professor/teacher has their students doing in class. They are playing a game about killing babies.

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/kill-that-baby-abortion-game/

        When will this war on women and children by the left ever end? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jopa out.

        “Respect your country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”

        Samuel Clemons

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Just sickening.

        “Throughout my career, I’ve been a consistent and strong supporter of reproductive justice, and have consistently had a 100% pro-choice (translation: pro-infanticide) rating with Planned Parenthood and NARAL Pro-Choice America.” (January 22nd is the 35th Anniversary of Roe v. Wade.) — Proud barack Hussein obama, Statement on 35th Anniversary of Roe v. Wade Decision

        “Children are a gift of the Lord; they are his reward.” (Psalm 127:5)

        “You formed my inmost being; you knit me in my mother’s womb.” (Psalm 139:13)

      • Vicki

        The CIA better hurry. Forensic science is improving the ability to detect cyanide poisoning.

        http://www.shsu.edu/~pin_www/T@S/2012/cyanideresearch.html

    • JUKEBOX

      If Bob Woodward, Dr. Ben Carson, or any other critics of Obama die mysteriously, I wonder what their autopsies will reveal.

      • sam1966

        How about this guy who spoke about how America was founded, along with challenging Obama bin Laden. He also made it known that Obama bin Laden is no Abraham Lincoln.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xMxkNR0to

        This man tells it as it is. Before you 5th columners attack the speaker as a pastor, because is is a very popular and influencial Rabbi. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This man is included.

        “You this day have received a public education, the purposr whereof hath been to qualify you the better to serve your Creator and your country…”

        William Samuel Johnson

        • Bob666

          Yo Smmurababble1966

          Facts are stubborn things:

          Amendment I

          Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        You do realize that the first public school books that the children learned to read from were the Holy Bible.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          I can believe that since the bible was read every morning after the pledge to the flag when I ws in grade school.

  • JUKEBOX

    Maxine’s math is derived from the same accounting that is used to count the votes in Obama’s reelection, like him receiving 2600 votes in a precinct that only has 2000 registered voters. That is the real Democrat math, as in a decrease in new spending being called a major cut, even though it is an increase from the previous year.

    • Warrior

      Chicago Schools are finally starting to teach practical math that these kids can use in real-world situations!

      NAME__________________________________

      GANG/CREW NAME_______________________

      CRIB__________________________________

      1. Lajames has an AK-47 with a 200-round clip. He usually misses 6 of every 10 shots and he uses 13 rounds per drive-by shooting. How many mofos can Lajames ice on a drive-by before he gotta reload?

      2. Willie has 2 ounces of cocaine. If he sells an 8 ball to Antonio for $320 and 2 grams to Juan for $85 per gram, what be the street value of the rest of his s**t?

      3. Dwayne pimps 3 ho’s. If the price is $85 per trick, how many tricks per day must each ho turn to support Dwayne’s $800 per day Crack habit?

      4. Raul wants to cut the pound of cocaine he bought for $40,000 to make 20% profit. How many ounce bags will he need to make to gets the 20% upside?

      5. Ray-Ray gets $2000 for a stolen BMW, $1500 for stealing a Corvette, and $1000 for a 4×4. If he steals 1 BMW, 2 Corvettes and 3 4×4′s, how many more Corvettes must he steal to make the 10k for his brother’s bail?

      6. Pedro got 6 years for murder. He also got $10,000 for the hit. If his common-law wife spends $100 of his hit money per month, how much money will be left when he gets out?

      7. If an average can of spray paint covers 22 square feet and the average letter is 3 square feet, how many letters can be sprayed with three 8 oz. Cans of spray paint with 20% paint left over?

      8. Tyrone knocked up 4 girls in the gang. There be 20 girls in his gang. What be the percentage of b**ches Tyrone knocked up?

      9. Lafawnda is a lookout for the gang. Lafawnda also has a Boa Constrictor that eats 5 rats per week and a cost of $5 per rat. If Lafawnda makes $700 a week as a lookout, how many weeks can she feed her snake with one week’s income?

      10. Marvin steals Juan’s skateboard. As Marvin skates away at 15mph, Juan loads his 357 Magnum piece. If it takes Juan 20 seconds to load his piece, how far away will Marvin be when he gets whacked

      Ain’t it the truth!

    • http://midciontent ridge runner

      That has been the standriad MO for the demorat party, ever since it was formed. Demorats can not be honest at any thing they do, Laws are imposed on everyone but except for demorats leaders, wheather it is county, state, and definite federal office holders. They don’t get prison time for murder, tax evasion, or voter fraud, no metter how many time these offenses happpen.

    • http://naver samurai

      You are right about how the 5th column is very ignorant on things, especially basic education requirements. Here is something that will explain further what Ben was talking about.

      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/democrats-trouble-with-numbers/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “A patriot must be a religious man.”

      Thomas Jefferson

      • Bob666

        Yo Samubabble1966
        “You are right about how the 5th column is very ignorant on things, especially basic education requirements”

        Yo are correct about ignorance,

        Two clauses in the First Amendment guarantee freedom of religion. The establishment clause prohibits the government from passing legislation to establish an official religion or preferring one religion over another.

        It enforces the “separation of church and state.” Some governmental activity related to religion has been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court. For example, providing bus transportation for parochial school students and the enforcement of “blue laws” is not prohibited. The free exercise clause prohibits the government, in most instances, from interfering with a person’s practice of their religion.

        You have to respect yout fellow citizen to be a patriot, that leaves you out!

        • sam1966

          Here is Bob once again lying about separation of church and state. Since none of these words are found in the 1st Amendment, you are lying. How many times are you going to lie about our Christian founding an separation of church and state? You, along with others, have been proven wrong so many times that all you continue to do is beat the dead horse.

          “The principle of separation of church and state is not embedded in the Constitution.”

          Antonin Scalia
          Speech at Religious Freedom Day
          January 12, 2003

          “‘The wall of separation of church and state’ is a metaphor based on bad history..it should be frankly and explicitly abandoned.”

          William Rehnquist
          1985

          These SCOTUS Justices just sum it up in these simple to understand quotes. Another example of their being no separation of church and state would be from Thomas Jefferson.

          “And whereas the greater part of said tribe have been baptized and received into the Catholic Church to which they are much attached, the United States will give annually for seven years one hundred dollars towards the support of a priest of that religion, who will engage to perform for the said tribe the duties of his office, and also to instuct as many of their children as possible in the rudiments of literature, and the United States will further give the sum of three hundred dollars to assist said tribe in the erection of a church.”

          Thomas Jefferson
          Treaty with the Naniskani (sp) Indians 1803

          “I observe in the Virginia Constitution an abridgement of a right I do not approve. It is the incapacitation of a clergyman from being elected.”

          Thomas Jefferson

          Couldn’t these be violations of this assumed separation of church and state that you 5th columners are always screaming about? How about these?

          “The reason that Christianity is the best friend of Government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.”

          Thomas Jefferson

          He says that government and Christianity are friends? No separation here.

          “No power can prescribe any religious exercise or to assume authority in religious discipline has been delegate to the Federal Government. It must, then, rest with the States.”

          Thomas Jefferson

          What? You mean that the States can have state sponsored religions and can take part in religious matters? No separation here.

          “I do issue this my proclamation, hereby appinting Thursday a day of public and solemn thanksgiving and prayer to Almighty God, earnestly recommending to all the good people…to set apart the said day for those purposes.”

          Thomas Jefferson
          November 11, 1779

          What? A day of giving thanks and praying to God endorsed by the U.S. Government? Isn’t this a violation of separation of church and state? Are you sure there is such a thing? Does this mean that the last Thursday in November, Thanksgiving Day, is illegal and violates separation of church and state, since government sets a day aside for those purposes? You must have a different meaning for Thanksgiving then our founding fathers and the government have. If this is true, then why by 1815, governments at various levels (Both state and federal) printed 1400 official Prayer Proclamations? Couldn’t these be a violation of separation of church and state? Looks like your 5th column arguement doesn’t hold water Bob antichrist. If you answer this post, use credible sources. Words get you no points with me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

          Thomas Jefferson

          • Bob666

            Yo Sanurababble,
            Jefferson was far from your typical Christian.

            They were refering to my god, not yours.

            You need both love of country & faith in my God to be a patriot. This leaves you out Sammybabble1966

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        Who is your God?

        • Bob666

          Yo Jana,
          My god is the all inclusive god who created the hevens and earth. An not what people see when thre numbers are seen after my name.

          does that help?

      • Jana

        Yes Bob666,
        It helps a lot. I was getting worried there for a minute.
        The 666 doesn’t bother me a bit.
        What it means is the Anti Christ which is Satan is coming back at the 6th Seal 6th Trump. 6th Vial. That is why that is his number.

      • sam1966

        Sorry Bob, but there is only one God. The Judeo-Christian God. All present, all knowing, all forgiving, and all loving. By the way you judge me, your god must be something other than the one I’ve mentioned. Here is a video from a county sheriff saying that if Americans have their guns taken away, it will start a revolution.

        http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/02/sheriff-gun-confiscation-would-lead-to-second-american-revolution/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “There are no atheists in fox holes.”

        Samurai

        • Bob666

          Yo CINO Sammy
          there is one god and he is mine and that leaves you out-loser.

      • Jana

        Bob666,
        The Bible states:
        Matt 7:1-5
        Judge not, that ye be not judged.

        2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

        3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

        4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

        5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
        KJV

        Be careful here. You are treading on dangerous ground. We have discernment, but we are NOT to condemn or to judge. There is a fine line and you are crossing it.
        If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t say it.

        • Bob666

          Jana,
          Judge not, that ye be not judged.

          2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

          3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

          4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

          5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.
          KJV

          Be careful here. You are treading on dangerous ground. We have discernment, but we are NOT to condemn or to judge. There is a fine line and you are crossing it.

          And Sam?.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry Bob, but when will you grow up? All you bring to this site are lies, innuendo, rhetoric, spew hate, and cause dissention. You and your ilk are disgraces to America and I’ll put my silver star, bronze star, and 2 purple hearts againsy anything you have done, thus proving who the patriot is and who is not. Sorry Bob, but we both know you do not believe in Almighty God. You believe in some other lesser being, like satan. Here is something showing where Obama bin Laden says that we can’t do things without his or the government’s help. What a liar.

        http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-you-cant-do-things-by-yourself_704716.html

        I guess that Obama bin Laden, along with the 5th column, doesn’t believe in self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters. Ergo, small, limited government. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob out.

        “Everything for the State; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State.”

        Benito Mussolini

        *This sounds like Bob and his 5th column ilk.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Do you want to know WHAT companies are fighting back against restrictive laws?

    Go here and see the list: http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/

    What is this list?
    This is a list of a 115 companies that are against gun control and have taken the step to publicly announce that THEY WILL NOT SELL ITEMS TO STATES, COUNTIES, CITIES, AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT RESTRICT THEIR CITIZENS RIGHTS TO OWN THEM; therefore closing the “police loophole” themselves.

    Add your company to the list.

    Please PASS IT ON to all your e-mail contacts. Thanks.

    • http://naver samurai

      Here is a video showing that a senator doesn’t know where Obama bin Laden was born.

      http://www.westernjournalism.com/senator-i-dont-know-where-obama-was-born/

      If a senator doesn’t know, how can we be expected to know? Just take his word for it? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

      Ronald Reagan

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Thanks Samurai. I am subscribed to the Western Journalism.

        13 (Thirteen) States Sheriff’s Associations and 321 Sheriffs have vowed to uphold and defend the Constitution against Obama’s UNLAWFUL gun control measures.
        http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/

        Sheriffs and associations made public statements committing to protect their citizens’ 2nd Amendment RIGHTS from obama’s gun control efforts.

        They will follow their oath and uphold the Constitution in their jurisdictions.

        They are saying ‘NO’ to Charlatan’s GUN CONTROL.
        Isn’t this a good news?

        • http://naver samurai

          Yes, this is good news. One of them is our own Elkhart County Sheriff, who got together with our state representatives and talked with Governor Pence about this. Here is an article showing Joe “Duh” Biden talking with retired military officers on gun control.

          http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/biden-gun-control-military/2013/02/26/id/492180?s=al&promo_code=1298D-1

          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          Enter in at the straight gate; for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because, straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

          Matthew 7 ;13 – 14

      • Jana

        If he didn’t have something to hide then why oh why did he spend so much money to hide it?
        He promised an administration that would be open and no back room deals. That is all he has had is back room deals and secrets. He has had the most secretive administration ever. He lies at the drop of a hat. How can we trust anything he says?
        Answer: We can’t.

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