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August 31, 2010 by  

Back Inside the Asylum…

If anyone wants to shove their heads in the desert sand regarding Iran, have at it.

I’m disinclined to hand a free pass to an Islamofascist regime with a pronounced tendency to make the psych ward at Bellevue look like bingo night at the senior center. I’m similarly disinclined to believe Pollyanna-ish assurances that we have nothing to be concerned about in the wake of a line of trucks pulling into the brand-spanking new nuclear plant at Bushehr, Iran on a recent Saturday afternoon.

Sure, they were delivering uranium fuel to the terrorist regime’s new nuclear facility — but what’s a little radioactivity between friends? Plus, The Associated Press says the Russians are keeping a watchful eye on things. I’m sure we’re perfectly safe now. The town drunk has promised to watch the town sociopath while we’re out shopping for a new economy. What could possibly go wrong?

But wait — the Russians are not the only ones playing Officer Krupke when it comes to Iran’s supposedly peaceful development of the world’s most dangerous filament fertilizer.

The United Nations gave the all-clear as well. In fact, they’re claiming that the Russian-oversight plan should ease concerns about just how enriched will be the enriched uranium now clasped in the Iranian paws.

In order to function as fuel for a power plant, uranium needs to reach the 3.5 percent enrichment level. Weapons-grade uranium must be jacked up to the 90 percent level. The Iranians are already working on enriching the good stuff to a 20 percent level (for medical research, honest!)

Fret not, my friends — the Russians are going to control the fuel supply. And there’s no chance the Iranians might sneak around the corner and dump a little extra octane into the mix, right?

Even the mighty French have chimed in. The French Foreign Ministry released a statement regarding the Iranian nuclear program, saying — again — there was no real cause for alarm. Terrific — the French said the same thing about Germany and the Anschluss.

If only the Iranians were as reassuring. Leave it to one-third of the Axis of Evil to remind us that they’re… one third of the Axis of Evil. While the Russians, French and U.N. all spoke in soothing tones, the note struck by Iran was decidedly less mellifluous.

Lest we think Ahmadinejad and the rest of the Islamic Clown Posse were just playing nuclear dress-up, they also broke the news that they have tested their air defense systems around Bushehr, and have determined them to be effectively operational.

Any time a spokesterrorist “strikes a defiant tone” — trouble isn’t just in the neighborhood, it’s doing doughnuts on the lawn and TP’ing the house.

According to Iranian nuclear chief Ali Akbar Salehi:

"Despite all pressure, sanctions and hardships imposed by Western nations, we are now witnessing the startup of the largest symbol of Iran’s peaceful nuclear activities,"

The same guys who can’t finish a sentence without shrieking about the fiery death of some Zionist-capitalist-imperialist-somebody are promising to play nice with their high-yield glow sticks.

We have no intention of building nuclear weapons with this stuff we have that can be used to build nuclear weapons. We are a peaceful society, simply trying to…DEATH TO THE ZIONIST/AMERICAN INFIDELS…make it cheaper to turn on the lights.”

Let me get this straight: an Islamofascist regime is about to throw the switch on a heavily defended NUCLEAR facility, and the only assurances that they’re not going to start churning out atomic luggage for every Tom, Dick and Akbar with a saif to grind are coming from the guy who can’t get past the first step in an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting, the guy who still laughs at Jerry Lewis movies and the rejects from the carnival?

For you victims of teachers’ unions out there, Iran’s proclamations of peaceful nuclear intent are as transparent as a Lady Gaga Grammy Awards costume.

Iran sits on top of some of the most expansive oil reserves on the planet. Unconstrained by a Democrat Party bent on protecting foreign oil interests to the detriment of their own people, the Iranians can — to paraphrase Governor Sarah Palin: “Drill here and drill now.”

The AP, doing their best version of the liberal appeasement shuffle, excuses the Iranian desire for nuclear power despite being awash in enough black gold to make Jed Clampett magenta with envy by suggesting their refinery capabilities don’t match their raw material output.

Here’s a suggestion: instead of building nukes, have the Iranians considered building REFINERIES? It’s not like they have to worry about the Sierra Club showing up to demonstrate — the Sierra Club is busy pretending global warming is real. Besides, the Sierra Club is stupid, not crazy. Protesting against American oil companies earns you donations from Sean Penn. Protesting against Iranian anything earns you a bullet.

Three weeks ago, I penned “The Lapdogs Of War” for Personal Liberty Digest in which I suggested that the time had not yet arrived for war with Iran. Ham-fisted foreign policy, especially with regards to the evil-dwarf regime running the show in Tehran makes a concerted military effort dubious at best.

In a hypothetical conflict, the United States vs. Iran would be shorter than Ahmadinejad without the lifts in his shoes. Sadly, the fact that Obama has alternated between apologizing to murderous dictatorships for the American pursuit of freedom and cowering like a frightened 5-year-old in a thunderstorm every time one of these tin pots starts banging his cymbals together assures we would end up bogged down in the mother of all Mesopotamian quagmires.

However, while our current ruling elite may have brought back the idiotic foreign policy malaise of Jimmy Carter, who was such a sniveling knot head when it came to dealing with global hostilities that his biggest military engagement was a loss in the Battle of the Chattahoochee Bunny; there is an alternative: Israel.

Now, I know many of my fellow Bob Livingstonians consider allowing Israel off the leash to be anathema at best, but consider the alternatives. Our current ruling elite is less likely to lead a successful military effort than House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is to turn down free Botox®. And given the green light on turning Bushehr into an even more inhospitable sandbox than it already is, Israel would light these guys up like a Menorah on… whatever day it is that a Menorah is fully lit.

When Saddam Hussein tried to enact his original nuclear ambitions, Israel hit the off switch at Osirak (built, perhaps tellingly, by the French) with a sledgehammer, killing the Iraqis’ chances at debuting the world’s first atomic arsenal in the hands of a complete lunatic (not counting Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko and Xiaoping.) Iran has already admitted plans to construct an additional dozen nuclear plants in mountain strongholds.

Iran has also repeatedly promised the complete destruction of Israel. Iran ALSO has missiles which put Tel Aviv well within range. Israel has no problem kicking hostile Islamofascist regimes in the teeth. Given their track record in that area, they’re pretty good at it.

A pre-emptive Israeli strike on Bushehr might lead to open warfare in the Middle East. A nuclear-armed Iran will, by its own admission, almost certainly lead to open warfare in the Middle East. The former might well involve American money. The latter might well involve American lives. Combining the possibility that Iranian aggression may well be backed by Russian and/or Chinese men and materiel with Obama’s weak-kneed tendencies, a nuclear-armed Iran could well spell Big Trouble in Little Tehran.

Iran has stepped up its schedule with surprising speed. In addition to the Bushehr reactor, they also used the weekend to debut a new Qiam-1 medium range missile and even capped off their Sunday with a ceremony to introduce the world to an unmanned bomber which Ahmadinejad dubbed their “ambassador of death.”

Given the Iranian regime’s rhetoric, when they can start trying to dictate the terms of the nuclear conversation, they will. I’d rather gamble with Israeli lives than our own. And with our current Commander-in-Chief more interested in engaging Arizona law enforcement than Islamofascist terrorism, the odds on the table are nowhere near worth our chips.

Perhaps most telling of all: I considered offering this piece to President Obama for comment, but he was on vacation… again.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • viktor leben

    Israel doesn’t have the conventional weaponry to invade and occupy Iran ! Israel would need to use their nuclear arsenal.

    That big mouth Iranian President is going to get some plutonium blown down his throat..and right out his “posterior orifice” .. courtesy of the IDF.

    • FreedomFighter

      Iran wants World War.

      “In a hypothetical conflict, the United States vs. Iran would be shorter than Ahmadinejad without the lifts in his shoes.”

      True, but other players are in the mix. Because the dwarf-nutcases want to meet god, they will certainly try to drag the global powers into conflict. They believe what they say, they want to meet god, to do so means world war.

      We cannot underestimate fanatical commitment to suicide.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And their meeting will be short, just long enough to sentence them to the lake of fire. Thats it.

        • Maranatha! Mark

          Y’israel will not use the ‘Samson Option’ – nuclear weapons, unless WMDs are falling on Y’israeli soil, or unless it looks like they are going to be wiped out. Y’israel is one of the most technically advanced countries in the world, and I understand they have some new tricks up their sleeves, to introduce to the Iranians, Syrians, Hezbollah and Hamas. A pre-emptive strike on Iran will start a larger Middle east war, involving Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and even Saudi Arabia. There will be a nuclear attack on Damascus, Syria, once they start firing the Chemical and Biolgocical tipped SCUDS into Y’israel. Check out the Bible verses: Isaiah 17:1, Psalm 83, Obadiah 1:17-21 and Ezekiel 38-39.

          Maranatha! Mark

          • Bob Hauser

            The so-called “good book” from which you and far too many others so freely quote, has been rewritten at least seventeen times since the alleged Ascension and has had, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica, an estimated 15,000 significant changes to it….not surprising considering that the jewish race, that gave us your “holy book”, has compiled such a sterling record of honesty during their 4 millennia of recorded existence that they were unceremoniously booted out of every nation in Western Europe at one time or another and in some case several times, oblivious as they usually maintain themselves of just how unwelcome they are in truly civilized society.

          • Bob

            MAranatha MArk,

            You are SOOOOOOO right!!! We’ll see WWIII, the middle eastern nations with Russia helping to fight against Israel (previous to the rapture) not to be confused with Battle of Armageddon (Where the armies of the world try to prevent Jesus from returning with his army of saints).

          • Karen

            ahhem! I beg your pardon, Please give me the scripture in the Bible where the word ‘Rapture’ is located? I have been studying for over 30 years and I have not found it yet? I don’t think that people are going to get out of being involved in all of this so easily.

          • Al Sieber

            Karen, you’re right, the “Rapture” was invented by the Jesuits and exploited by the “Tent” preachers. in the end times in the bible it talks about false prophets. the bible has been rewritten many times, I don’t how many.

          • libertytrain

            Al – I don’t know – never heard that term Rapture growing up but according to one religious site: “The theological notion of a “rapture” was invented 170 years ago. In 1830, in Port Glasgow, Scotland, fifteen year old Margaret MacDonald had a vision concerning the return of Christ. Her vision was adopted by John Nelson Darby a British minister and founder of a denomination called the “Plymouth Brethern.” In 1909, an American, C. I. Scofield, pubished an annotated version of the “King James” translation of the Bible called the “Scofield Reference Bible.” Scofield’s annotations were based on the theology of John Nelson Darby. The “Scofield Reference Bible” popularized the teachings of Darby. Fundamentalist Christians in the U. S. adopted Scofield’s Bible as authoritative. With the rise of fundamentalism in the U. S. in recent years, the popularity of the theological notion of the “rapture” has also gained popularity.”

          • Al Sieber

            LibertyTrain, you might be right, but I know the Jesuits were involved somewhere. there’s a book called:”Rulers Of Evil” by F. Tupper Saussy about the Jesuits. the saying “kill them all and let God Sort them Out” came from them. I’ll research it more.

          • libertytrain

            Oh I don’t know if I’m right but never heard that term from any Jesuit and believe I spent years around schools run by them or any of the Catholic Schools I attended and never to this day in Church. I did hear about some religion that did the rapture idea on one of those History channel documentaries sometime in the last year or so – and it reminded very much of what I Googled up this eve.

          • Viktor Leben

            Karen,

            The word “Rapture” is derived from the Latin Vulgate translation in 1 Thessalonians , The word is “rapturo” according to this hyperlink ….

            http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080508152339AAKbD90

            The “Rapture” will happen. Whether the Tribulation will start right after the Rapture, I have my own personal doubts. I’m of the opinion that the Rapture will happen, then their will be an interval of many years before the 7 year Tribulation. This will give the world time to totally apostatize. When the Church is Raptured nothing will hold evil back. It will like the time before Christ’s 1st advent. Occult religion and Black Science will be practiced by many. Also Babylon can be rebuilt during this period. Then Daniel’s last week will happen ……

            I could be wrong, the “Trib” might happen right after the “Rapture”

            I’m not religious, I use to go to Sunday School when I was a kid …

          • Viktor Leben

            Liberty Train,

            There is more to studying “The Blessed Hope” or “The Rapture” than Darby and Scofield !

            Why don’t you start with the Apostle Paul or the Book of Job ?

          • libertytrain

            Victor – I’m not studying the rapture – I was just commenting that I didn’t believe it had anything to do with the Jesuits.

          • Viktor Leben

            Liberty train,

            Pardon me for sounding terse ! It must be this old Kool-Aid I’m drinking !

          • libertytrain

            Victor – how about a nice glass of apple juice instead – much better for you.

      • 45caliber

        FreedomFighter:
        I remember the Iranian President making a remark sometime ago. It went something like this:

        “I know Iran stands to be blown up in any exchange of nuclear weapons. But if we can bring down the mighty American Satan at the same time, our survivors and other Muslims in the world will be able to conquer what is left so we will emerge victorious!”

        • Bob Hauser

          Yes…and so typical of their obsession with mythology, most Americans still believe that Ahmadinejad seeks to “wipe Israel off the map” which turns out to be a willfully malicious mistranslation of what the Iranian leader in fact said which was to the effect that Israel would disappear from the map (like a complete remission of the social cancer it constitutes)….you know of course…willful and malicious mistranslation like the one the dearly departed Senator from Californicate, Alan Cranston, attempted to publish in 1939 of Hitler’s MEIN KAMPF, and for which he was dragged into court and soundly trounced….and again, mistranslation, as in using the term “Manchuria” versus Manchukuo, in Hull’s ten-point ultimatum to the Japanese in November, 1941, one little word that was coldly calculated to steer the Japanese Imperial Command directly to the flash point. What’s in a word?…..just enough to set off a world war that lasted six years and resulted in 55 million deaths, the vast majority of whom were not jewish…Hell, that’s all.

          • Bob

            Should we just call you “BLAH BLAH BOB” from now on? You go off on such ridiculous tangents taht don’t mean anything to the topic at hand. Do us all a favor and leave the intelligent conversations to the rest of us. You no doubt have never actually READ the Bible, and certainly not with the illumination of the Holy Spirit helping you to DISCERN THE TRUTH. Stick to either the KJV (w Apocrypha) or the Geneva Bible, and you will see the UNADULTERATED truth, closest to the original manuscripts. The Bible is written by multiple persons but there is only ONE AUTHOR, the TRIUNE GOD, of which all writers were inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT to write down HIS-STORY.

          • Danny Buckles

            Bob Hauser wake up to the fact that you believe in nothing and you have nothing but hopelessness to share. Jesus christ offers the only hope for man. If you were one tenth as smart as you are trying to convince every one. You would understand, That there is know other belief that offers man any hope.Especially not muslim open your mind and come out of that darkness. You are living with your eyes and ears closed to the truth.Have a great day and quit hating GOD’S children.

          • Carole Howell

            Thank You Bob Hauser for your sanity, some here are so off the charts with their insanity.

            Remember when everyone was saying the ayatollah khommeini was a total loon? But all that hype was immediately dropped when Reagan did his secret illegal Arms deals with him. Remember that everyone?

            Then we have these false Christians beating the drums of war all the time, it is just insane. They are the ones who don’t read their own bibles.

          • Corinne

            Bob Hauser is absolutely right about the “Rapture” – it is not in the Bible. He is, also, correct that it was the construct of Reverend Darby, and was adopted by ignorant Christians who, like most of them today, believe any and every thing they hear from a pulpit. Remember, “Better to be thought the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” It seems to me that some of you need to spend more time actually reading the Bible, and less just blindly accepting whatever someone else tells you it says.

          • Corinne

            I forgot to say, “Yes, I am a Christian.”

          • Viktor Leben

            Hauser,

            God will fight for Israel. He doesn’t need the USA. Personally I would rather be on God’s side …

        • Bob

          45 Do you have firsthand knowledge of that being said?

          • 45caliber

            I heard him say it on TV.

          • 45caliber

            Via translator.

      • spike

        You are right!! We need to “read the book” THEIRS, AND THE BIBLE!!
        Those who do not believe, okay, read it anyway. The first 66 books are a HISTORY LESSON. They are there to back up, and be a reference for
        the “new testament”…Then read the back of the book…does it sound current? Then maybe a few (I said few) will go..Oh, wow. That was written 2000 years ago? Maybe it is true. Maybe they won’t but I stand on the fact, jack…it’s INTHEBOOK!!!

    • http://liberty SAM

      If you think anyone is going to get by attacking Iran,Your DEAD wrong,This WHOLE WORLD will go into CHAOS,The USA will COLLAPSE,Isreal will lose 99% of their JETS and US 89%,And Get ready to see for the first time ever CARRIERS in the BOTTOM OF EVERY WATREWAY

      • Craig

        Yadda Yadda, same B.S. was said about Saddam’s republican guard decimating any invaders. They all ran like the little pussies they are. Same thing will happen with Iran’s military.

        • JRC

          The only difference is that Saddam NEVER had the technology to do it, but the Iranians have. Read our own military analyst reports and you will find that many of Iran’s weapons are on par or in some cases even better then our own. Ironically, Iran does not need nuclear weapons if it wants to wipe Israel of the map. They have the capability right now, and Israel knows it, the US knows it also. Honestly, why do you believe NOTHING was done? No attack or covert action to blow up the labs? Israel will NOT commit suicide and neither will the US. The danger from a Nuclear armed Iran is NOT to Israel, but to Iran’s biggest enemy, the big Satan US. All Iran needs is ONE nuclear tipped rocket and explode it at an high altitude over the US. Remember, they already test fired rockets to simulate this. The resulting EMP will destroy the US as much as a full scale attack. Moreover, if this was done from some ship, tanker close to our borders there will be hardly any way to trace it back to Iran. The US will be very careful to retaliate because the rest of the world just waits for such a mistake. It will be in the end of the US as we know it

          • Stevo

            Do you not keep up with our own technology,at least the unclassified stuff ? Our laser program is coming along very well.We have a ground laser that can knock out anything flying or on the ground.We also have a BIG laser in a 747 jet that can knock out a missle from a long way off.And that’s just what we know about.There is a small laser mounted on a humvee that they use to blow up IED’s,and we are using it in Iraq and probably Afghanistan.

          • Lubo

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Al Sieber

            JRC,you are right on the money. and they have Russia and China behind them.

          • Al Sieber

            And their Shiites, not Sunnis, not afraid to die.

          • Craig

            “Read our own military analyst reports and you will find that many of Iran’s weapons are on par or in some cases even better then our own. Ironically,”

            Yadda yadda yadda, heard the same about Russian weapons. Come to find out later after we got a good look at their stuff. It was antiquated, almost primitive in comparison to our stuff and very unreliable and inaccurate.

          • Bob

            The reason nobody will attack Iran is because they have alot of up-to-date weapons. Why else would the CIA try to start a revolution in Iran after last years elections.

        • Lubo

          Craig…Well said but even quicker.

        • Bob

          Have you signed up yet Craig Rambo or are you another armchair hero?

          • Craig

            Signed up for what, Bob? I was stating facts, Bob. In your warped world one must sign up in the military to state facts? Is that how it goes, Bob?

        • http://comcast.NET E.V. Doyle

          Love your style,sounds like it came strait from yada yahweh.
          Love His Message@the Messengers.
          Woody

      • Carole Howell

        Thank you Sam, this country is in a bad place right now and a war with Iran would finish us off.

        People forget Iraq and Iran have been there for a very long time. People also forget or ignore the fact that Iraq pretty much asked the USA for permission to attack Kuwait over border disputes, and April Glaspie,remember her? She basically gave Saddam Hussein the green light to settle their dispute and he saw fit.

        We were told Hussein was a mad man he was the worst tyrant in the region, remember? Yet Iraqi people were the freest of all the Arab world, the most educated, had the highest standard of living, free to practice any religion they chose, they all had Universal health care.
        Iraqi women were free to drive, dress as they pleased, have careers etc.(which is not true after our involvement, things are the same as in any other Arab nation now, aren’t we proud)

        So obviously Saddam Hussein was not the worst tyrant in the region. None of these freedoms were available to any other Arabs in any other Arab Nations.

        We are constantly lied to too.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Carol Howell,
          Yes, and woman were free to be repeatedly RAPED by Saddam, his sons and the imperial guard as well. Husbands were sometimes shot so he could rape them and not be seen as guilty of raping a married woman. (that came after the people in the west started hearing about his little escapades. How do I know this? I spoke to a woman in 2006, a recent immigrant to the U.S. She showed me scars on her arms and neck where she had been beaten by imperial guards and later raped! I choose to believe her “proof more than your stories of “mistranslations!!

          • Carole Howell

            Joe H,

            You get that crap from the same place the U S Congress got the story that Kuwaiti babies were ripped out of their incubators and stacked like firewood to die, and the incubators were then shipped to Iraq, remember that ‘cock and bull’ story? Which is just what it was.

            Iraqi women themselves said they were safe on the streets of Iraq any time day or night. That is not true today, today they are raped, murdered and/or sold as sex slaves all over the middle east, do you even try to keep up to date with the news coming out of Iraq today?

        • Bob

          When Saddam Hussein was hanged on the gallows he went out like a man. How many of our leaders would be real men. None

          • Granny Mae

            If Saddam is your idea of a man you need to get a grip !

      • spike

        I think you will be right, if we wait much longer. Let’s just wait til he has nukes, and then go….duh, I shoulda hada V-8

    • Jim M.

      I would certainly like to read the whole article. Is it too much to ask to have the video and the Google ads 3 1/2″ over to the right where they belong, instead of blocking a few paragraphs of the article???

      • DaveH

        Jim it comes out fine on my Browser (Internet Explorer 8).

      • RWS

        I had the same problem. You have to make your window smaller so that the video doesn’t obstruct it. Take the bottom right corner of your internet explorer window and shrink it to about half the size of your computer screen. That should help.

      • libertytrain

        I used Firefox and have no problem -

      • Davnkatz

        Jim, there is a moveable adjust bar at the bottom (or maybe the top) of the screen which can be used to adjust location.

        Another option is to double-click on the incoming email. That will make the entire message appear on the screen. Remember to click on the X in the upper right hand corner to reverse the process and exit.

        A third option is to hold down the “Cntrl” button and gently move the “roll” wheel on your mouse (forward or backward) until the whole message is on the screen. Then use the qadjust bar to position the message.

        I discovered this thru trial-&-error when I had the same problem. Hope ithelps.

        • dan az

          Davnkatz
          Thanks I can see again!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jim M,
        mine is just fine. I’m on 8 as well!!

    • Mary

      You’re right. Israel just to do it first. If the lunatic of Iran has a change he will nuke Israel in a blink of an eye. There is no other way. Never give a change to the enemy. Terrorists, socialists and communists are the best when they are dead.

      • 45caliber

        What do you call a terrorist with only six sticks of dynamite strapped to his chest?

        A moderate.

        • Lubo

          LOL!!!! ):>

        • Granny Mae

          LOL ! I call him hurtin !

      • JRC

        mary,
        Iran has the ability to wipe Israel of the map already if they wanted to do so, Why do you think Israel and the US have not attacked? It would be the end of Israel. A nuclear weapon will help, but it is really not needed. If the Iranians had a death wish Israel would have been destroyed already. A nuclear armed Iran will be the destruction of the US, that is what this is all about. But, unfortunately we gave Iran too much time to prepare direct and indirect actions. I believe that is we or Israel is attacking Iran today, it will be Israels destruction and it will also destroy the US as we know it.

        • Lubo

          JRC…..Not sure what your credentials are but stating that IRAN can wipe Israel off the face of the map seems to be a LARGE STRETCH? Fact is, based upon Israel’s WELL equipped military, not to mention, a multitude of nuclear missles, the JERICO being one of many, just how could a non-nuclear Iran pull that one off?

          Fact is, if this idiot in Iran had a deliverable nuclear weapon, he would have already “attempted” to use it against our friends in Israel. Fact is, he don’t and nor should we allow him to obtain one.

          As far as Iran destroying America, your dreaming. One TRIDENT nuclear sub has enough DELIVERABLE nuclear tonage to completely wipe IRAN off the face of the PLANET.

          • Al Sieber

            Lubo, they will destroy us economically, gas will be $10-$12 a gallon.

          • dean

            One nuke in any part of the world unleashed, will finish the world as we know it folks, now a neutron bomb might be a wise choice for this area. killing everything alive and leaving the ranch intact. lol

          • Granny Mae

            Al,

            I don’t think so! What do you think their economy is based on and just how long do you think they would last? And why would we let them last anyway ?

          • Al Sieber

            Grannie Mae, Iran’s economy is based on petro. products.

          • Granny Mae

            Al,

            I know and that is why I said that. The only thing they have in their economy is to sell oil and we buy it. If we don’t buy it they loose . By the way what the heck do they use their money for anyway? I sure don’t see much in the line of schools and hospitals and sewer systems etc. in most of those countries. What the heck do they do with the money they make off us and other nations? I know make war !

          • Carole Howell

            JRC is a realist, it is you that knows nothing and in this case I hope you never have to find out.

        • 45caliber

          JRC:
          If Iran had the capability to wipe Israel off the map why was Israel successful in defeating all of them at the same time during the 6-day War? And why hasn’t Iran done it considering that it is the one thing all Muslims want to do?

          • mr

            The problem here is Russia and China.
            It is in their interest to keep Mullah’s in power.
            In their eys, that provides them the “balance” in the region since US has Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudis, Egypt, Jordan,… in the region.
            They want to hold on to Iran as their answer to US.

    • Mike In MI

      Viktor, viktor, viktor (easy!, easy!) – Don’t you know your name, Leben, in German means “Love”? You’re not giving off a lot of vibes for sweet tenderness and light.

      One problem with Americans who are still asleep is they don’t realize the depth of passion the moslems have to die in order to take over he world. The sleepy heads need to be awakened in a way that appeals to some of their predilections, like – “Be nice, do something that shows pheeeelllinng.” Ask for conciliatory gestures, junk like that.
      So why not ask the Ground Zero mosque leader, Imam Rauf, to prove that he is a man of goodwill. Something that would really appeal to people with liberal leanings would be this:

      Let’s ask Rauf to make a deal. If he wants to prove that their intentions are sincere and that Muslims seek trusting relations with other people in the world community, are willing to “join hands with other religions and men of peace” and do not seek Mohammedan world dminance then do this to prove it:
      Work together among other Imams until you obtain consensus to permit the construction of a Christian church and a Jewish synagogue alongside the Dome of the Rock on top of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Then, having proven your sincerity, you can build your mosque at Ground Zero in New York City.

      I’d like to propose that you New Yorkers ought to spread this request aroud The City so it gets heard. It will show the true Moslem intentions. Their intent is either provocation, marking what they consider is their “territory” (like what they did in Jerusalem) or it is an outreach and cultural center.

      • Davnkatz

        Mike, there IS a group (can’t remember the name right now) of former Muslims who have converted to Christianity. The DID deliver a petition to Imam Rauf requesting Rauf disown Hamas, publish tolerance for those muslims who converted, and officially declare the mosque to be a center where ALL religions can study and worship together (Rauf has stateed “unofficially” (in other words – lied to deceive) the mosque would be a “bridge between religions). Guess what! Imam Rauf refused to acknowledge even getting the written petition! HAH to us stupid Americans who nelieve what the Imam and his greasy-mouth supporters loudly proclaim.

      • Mike In MI

        Oh and and one more thing. Never let them make any kind of unfulfilled deal, either. And never just take a Muslim’s word for something. The Koran says they can promise anything to a non-Muslim, make any kind of solem contract or deal, say anything, even swear by Allah. Then when the time comes to follow through and do what they agreed to they can back out and say they never made any deal or gave their word or signature. A non-muslim should never trust a Muslim on anything.

        Now, if the Muslim makes a promise or says anything to another Muslim he has to absolutely do it or he’s in trouble with Allah.

        Maybe this is why Obama has said so many things, but followed throught on nothing. Muslims can say anything they want to unbelievers. As far as he’s concerned we’re just a bunch of barn animals.

      • JRC

        Viktor, viktor, viktor (easy!, easy!) – Don’t you know your name, Leben, in German means “Love”? You’re not giving off a lot of vibes for sweet tenderness and light.

        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        Nope, Leben means life, Lieben means love.

        • Mike In MI

          Oops! Right you are. Come to think of it that’s why I failed that class. I oughta’ leave such far away subjects alone and distant.

          • Viktor Leben

            Mike,

            I’m going to use that Leben means “love” line on my wife, next time she gets mad ….

      • 45caliber

        Mike:
        Dying while killing enemies of Allah is the ONLY way they can expect to get to Paradise. They are offered a chance IF they live a good life but that solution still leaves them hanging. Are they living a good live? But if they can kill someone … they have it made.

        So ALL true Muslims are willing to die killing infadels just so they can be assured of a place in Paradise. And those in Iran are as true as any others.

      • Carole Howell

        Mike in MI,

        They are not even building a Mosque, rightwing talking heads are saying that and you are repeating it. It is being repeated over and over again and it is a lie.

        They are building a community center, not a Mosque, big difference. And it is not at ground zero. It is being built in a completely dead area a few blocks away.

        Such exaggerations are crazy. People are foaming at the mouth here.

        45 Caliber, it was an illegal war, breaking International laws, but we the USA think we are above all laws, we do as we please but still demand others to follow International Law. The Iraq war was based on lies, complete bald faced lies. As was the war with Viet Nam. (gulf of Tonkin lie)

        We can torture, and we can teach others the art of torture (SOA) but we always criticize others on their Human Rights record.

        We are becoming a nation which speaks with a forked tongue.

        • Al Sieber

          Carole, I agree.

        • Granny Mae

          Carole Howell,

          I haven’t quite figured out just exactly how I do feel about this mosque business. Sometimes I’m upset over it and then I say well it is two blocks away. Then I say well yes but there are some people that their feelings are raw over this whole 9/11 disaster and it was perpetrated by Muslims (radicals what ever that means) you would think that these people would want to heal these wounds and say , hey we can build somewhere else if this is going to be such an issue for these people. But they don’t they seem to want to continue the contraversy and the agitation. They seem to have no compassion for anyone but themselves. They claim we have no right to object and never try to see the other persons view point. Aha ! But that is the nature of these people, now isn’t it? They can do these things and encourage their own children to give their lives willingly to blow someone up, because they seem to have no compassion and rebuck us becuse we do have compassion. I want to make nice with these people but they just don’t make it easy! For all the people that lost loved ones on 9/11 I think it should be left up to them and if they say NO then NO it should be !

          • Carole Howell

            Granny Mae,
            This is to be a community center, they have a Mosque 6 blocks away from ground zero,it has been there for years, want to tear that down. Let us be sensible here.

            Plus it was a bunch of Christian Fundamentalists that started an unnecessary war based on lies and killed many 1000s of times more people than 9/11 did, seems to me we are a little insensitive ourselves.

      • Carole Howell

        Mike from MI
        You have a strange way of talking love.

      • spike

        A stroke of genius…because you KNOW IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!

    • EddieW

      I agree that eventually Israel will have to nuke Iran, but they should have done it before the radioactive supplies were put in, but they know that!! Now to hit them with a nuke will splatter radioactivity all over the atmosphere, and water!!
      Right now Iran doesn’t have the nuclear material to make a bomb…it needs to be 90% enriched, and they are receiving 3% they might in a year or so be able to enrich it to 20%, but still not enought for a bomb! Come to think of it, nowhere in the Bible does it say a nuke will be used in the middle east, until toward the very end, when a “star” (missile?)will make a third of the waters unusable!!

      • Bob

        Eddie you repated Glen Beck word for word. Like a parrot.

      • Agent Orange

        20% ain’t enough for a nuke, but it sure IS enough to run a fast-breeder reactor (like the French Super-Phoenix in Lyon) and then reprocess the spent fuel to make WEAPONS-GRADE PLUTONIUM! Scared yet?

        • Carole Howell

          Agent Orange,
          Nope I am not scared at all.

          • local dude

            If you aren’t scared, you aren’t paying attention…

          • dan az

            Local Dude
            carole dosent Pay attention only reseves attention like a good little liberal that she is.

      • Viktor Leben

        Very interesting comments Eddie ….

        I’m just speculating … maybe the Iranians found a way to enrich the nuclear isotopes in a more efficient,expedient and economical manner. Who says the USA has the monopoly on state of the art nuclear technology ?

        Brilliancy, we would never had thought it, or planned for it .

        • spike

          Okay, so what are you getting at…

    • Carole Howell

      Attention: Read this and then tell me who the crazies are.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30taub.html?ref=global

      • Agent Orange

        You are!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Agent Orange,
          Especially if she believes the New York Slimes!!!

        • Carole Howell

          Joe H, You did not read it did you, cause you are the nutcase. Read it.

  • s c

    Muslims say their faith teaches love and tolerance, but they still find ways to idolize Hitler. Iran’s wannabe fuhrer is chasing his own version of karma, and he doesn’t seem to be overly concerned about starting a war that once started can’t be stopped.
    It’s almost as though the world is so close to being insane that insanity has become the new recreational drug. Like the old expression says, “It takes all kinds of losers to make this the screwed-up world that it is.” As self-serving and paranoid as our ‘leaders’ can be, at least we don’t have a flake quite like Iran’s flake – not yet, that is. But we’re definitely close.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      They say that, but the very tenants of their belief system says that if someone doesnt think like you do and embrace your theology, that they are infidels and you kill them. That doesnt sound like a very peaceful and tolerant religion at all to me. No sir, not at all. And while our government is trying to force tolerance for them down our throats, they are laughing their arse’s off while they are planning our demise. We need to back off Israel, and allow them to take care of business like they want to. They will level these guys if we take the hand cuffs off them. They may do it soon anyhow, as they know they cannot wait for Iran to get a nuke, because Iran will nuke them as soon as they can, and thats the facts.

      • Charley41

        I’m afraid the Muslums are planning to out populate us and their goal is to have control of our politics by 2050. Proof of that is in the book MUSLUM MAFIA. Wake up America …take care of our own door step!

        • JRC

          You need to learn how to sift through lies and propaganda and do research on your own. I found this book to be full of twisted facts and half truths within the first 20 pages that I tossed it into the trash.
          It is nothing but a piece of propaganda by someone who has an agenda that is very close to the 3rd Reich agenda only its Muslims this time instead Jews.

          • vicki

            let us look at the qu’ran and bible to see the differences
            http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm

            Note in particular the differences in Murder, Violence, War & Oppression and the Treatment of Women

        • Bob

          In 2050 I’ll be 110 years old. Should I stock up on ammo?

          • Vicki

            Yes. You might not need it but the youngins will.

        • Granny Mae

          Charley41,

          You may just be right !

      • Maranatha! Mark

        The confusion about Islam being a “peaceful religion”: At first, during his ‘hippy years’ in Mecca, Mohammad spoke of peace and love, but then the Jews laughed in his face as did the Christian Church leaders about his prophecies, and by the time he moved to Medina, he had lost that “Loving feeling” and everything from then on was kill those who won’t convert to Islam, lie if you can’t out right defeat your enemies until you can defeat them. “Honor killings”, murder, rape, polygamy, bestiality all practiced by Mohammad and sanctioned by him. And unlike the Holy Bible (Judao-Christian), Medina supercedes all Mecca verses – older verses supercede earlier verses check out Chapter 9 verse 5 in the Generous Qur’an, and see what I mean. The so-called “Radical” Islamists bent on world domination are in fact the “Whole Book Islamists”, for the ultimate goal of all those who follow Mohammad is to establish a world wide theocracy and a callaphate to rule over all the world! They will do whatever it takes to achieve this goal… WHATEVER IT TAKES! Y’israel is only the first step and the United States is the 2nd step!

        Know your enemies and understand what is at stake before you enter into a war, or you are doomed to fail! We are fighting enemies engaged in a “Holy War”, like we are fighting a governmental war (like World Wars I & II), which means we will loose unless we start treating it like and fighting it as a Holy War.

        • Mike In MI

          Hey Mark, Maranatha -

          Right, like… how we going to do that or do anything to defend ourselves with a lieing Mohammedan-in-chief who’s waging Holy War against US?

          • Agent Orange

            That’s why we must IMPEACH him if we can (and vote him out of office if we can’t).

        • 45caliber

          I personally think Mohammed had a split personality. He would write one thing in one place and sometimes the exact opposite somewhere else. That is why interputting the Qoran is so difficult; which part can you believe? You can’t believe both!

          • Christin

            I have learned that the earlier writings were more peaceful, but the later writings in the Koran or Quron by mohammed were much more violent… thus the contradiction.

          • David

            Thats thre problem with people who smoke hash….LOL

        • Granny Mae

          Maranatha! Mark

          I agree with you !

      • Carole Howell

        Beberoni,

        Are you quoting that straight from the Koran? Please state the chapter and verse.

    • spike

      Yes, we are close, EGOTISM seems to be the common thread that I see in
      the Ahmedinijad (sp) videos and Obama…They burn American Flags, they
      burn fake American bodies, they take hostages, they kill news reporters. And we sit idly by…

  • THINK ABOUT

    The decision to go into Iraq 10 years ago has worked to give Iran an open field to develop nuclear weapons. Before Iraq served as an overseer and a cork on Iran. Though I realize Saddam was a very bad person, Iran was kept under wraps. Iran is a Persian country, they are not Arabs and was sitting out alone before we removed the safety net. Just recently I have heard some reporters saying Iraq invasion might have opened up Iran to build weapons. Right now the USA has not gotten onto alternative energy methods and away from the oil. There are a lot of other ways to relieve our dependence on oil, this will not happen overnight nor will drilling in the USA.

    • Warrior

      Maybe, maybe not. We possibly could have had two countries racing to develop nukes.
      Personally, I think there is more danger with the nuclear materials being used as dirty bombs or suitcase nukes for future terrorist endeavors. What until the first car bomb goes off in the old US of A.
      The TSA won’t be able to save us from that. Hijacking planes has become so passe’.

      • Carole Howell

        Warrior,
        You are right, and it would be nice to know who the U S Officials in high office were that sold our Nuclear secrets to Turkish officials, who then sold them to Pakistan and then Pakistan’s Nuclear expert (Dr. Khan) sold them to al Qaeda and to others, No. Korea. ETC.

        Sibel Edmonds working as a translator for the FBI discovered this info while translating pre-recorded calls to Turkey and to other countries in the region. Bush’s DOJ put a gag order on her.

        So Warrior, the dirty suitcase bombs could already be in place as we speak. And even if they are not, with our open borders, there is little to stop them from getting in.

        Scared yet? Iran does not scare me at all, but this does.

    • Eddie

      Warrior is correct.. During the first limited Iraq War of the ’90s, Saddam Hussein was purposefully left in Power as a check-mate to Iran.. Our Military was held back from completely whipping out his Republican Guard and the Hussein Military was allowed to leave Kawait basically intact while passing through the Gauntlet of our own Military lined up on each side of the Road back to Iraq. Our Pentagon realized that Saddam Hussein needed to keep enough Military Power to prevent Iran from finishing them off from their own war..
      Saddam Hussein then felt brave enough to re-start a nuclear program with every intent of nuclear weaponry. This in turn would have prompted the Iranians to do likewise, which they are doing anyway..
      The Cowardly world politics of this Administration will help bring on the World wide Nuclear War that will consume the World by Fire..
      The American Military hands are tightly tied against the “First Use” of atomic weaponry, whether for defensive prevention or offensive prevention.. Our Current Insane Politics requires that we Americans must take the “First Nuclear Burst” before we can be permitted to respond in kind.. Nuclear War is coming to America because our cowardly political leadership has no “spine” to act pre-emptively.. “The Hand will Burn, before the Brain will Learn..”
      Eddie’56

      • 45caliber

        I had a friend in the artillery in the first Iraq war. They had a mission to fire on a truck convoy – and it was shut down at the last moment. When the men asked why it was shut down, they were told that it was believed that Saddam was with the trucks. They REALLY wanted to shoot then. Finally they were told that the reason they didn’t want to harm Saddam was the fear that if he was killed or otherwise taken out, the terrorists would target Congress for assassinations.

        They REALLY REALLY wanted to shoot then! As he told me, it was a win-win situation.

      • Maranatha! Mark

        I don’t think we will be nuked, but when the Middle East war gets going really good and gasoline/disel/Kerosene hit $10 to $15 per gallon our dying economy will give up the ghost and our dollar will collapse, as will most Western economies, and even China’s. When Y’isral finishes with Iran, I don’t think it will be able to do much for a while, then in a year or so, it will suddenly rise again, seemingly from the ashes and invade Y’israel, with Russian help, then things really get interesting!

        Maranatha! Mark

        • http://?? Joe H.

          M!mark,
          I don’t agree. If gasoline hits 5.00 a gallon here in this country, the outcry will be so loud that they will open up drilling in almost all areas of the U.S. But the national parks!!!

        • spike

          that ain’t what the Bible says.

      • Davnkatz

        Your post, and the replies (incl mine) are nothing more than speculation. GEN Swartzkof was ready and recommended total annialation of Hussein’s administration. George Sr suddenly got cold feet and declared we had accomplished the mission. G Sr’s approval rating was very high until he quit, then it dropped dramatically. Also, it cost him the re-election (this can be confirmed historically). In the 2nd war, “W” just HAD to finish the job to revenge his pappy. Altho SoDamn Insane was a really bad guy, “W’s” revenge for pappy was the ONLY “real” reason.

        Once “W” accomplished that job, the Military wanted to invade Iran, but “W” wanted to teach Iraqis how to be Americans. Like his pappy, “W” had high approval ratings with his “war on terror”, but they also dropped to the bottom when he started to Americanize muslims. It also signaled other muslim countries that “W” and America was just rattling their sabres and had no intention to follow thru on the war on terror.

        Then, when obummer was elected and he started America on the fast-track to destruction, muslims rejoiced (again, do some research) and realized we are too stupid and care more for money than Constitutional safeguards. They realized how easily they can institute Sharia Law by creating “Sharia Compliant” banks, get concession for applying Sharia in areas of muslim population, and now the mosque at ground zero.

        Imam Rauf utter his proclamation but leaving one word unsaid: the mosque “… will seve as a bridge to (destroy) other religions.”

        • Granny Mae

          Davnkatz,

          You are dead on ! I agree !

        • spike

          Amen, brother!! Well said! you have their game down pat. You can see straight through to their back collar button. But what I don’t understand is, Why are we allowing it? They have to comply with our laws, and a legal system that is already in place. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness entitles people to come over here and demand their own set of laws, and their bending of our standards to meet THEM. They need to comply to what is already in place. BY THE WAY, A BURKHA WORN IN A DRIVER’S LICENSE PICTURE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN.

      • Carole Howell

        Eddie,

        It has been proven Iraq did not have a nuclear weapons program, did you forget Israel bombs their 1st and only nuclear weapons plant. Iraq knew it was a no win situation. They had no nuclear weapons plans.

        • spike

          Really? Did you know Saddam personally?

    • Bookem Dano

      The idea of finding and using an alternative to oil is a pipe dream. It will take at least 100 years to wean off oil. Watch the show about oil on the Discovery channel or history channel. Most people do not realize how many things use oil in their production. Besides there is scientific studies suggesting that there is always a continous “remaking” of oil going on natuarly on the planet.
      The only true answer is to shut down the bunny huggers that are trying their best to make big oil look evil. We need to use our own resources in our own hemispher and screw the rag heads. They’re going to shut off the global supply in as little as 5 years anyways. DRILL HERE AND DRILL NOW!!!

      • Mike In MI

        No, no, no…how does that make any sense?

        They can’t make any money by shutting down the supplies. They want to control the direction of flow and how much it costs. Senator Rockefeller wants the internet shut down so we can’t talk to each other and turn algore into a turnip or Soros into a stuffed cabbage.
        They want to CONTROL energy with their stupid “credits” system. They want to take away your lawn and garden tools, mowers, tractors, snowmobiles, boats, 4-wheelers and your ability to travel much beyond the next county or your ability to buy fuel for them.
        Buy a goat and worship Obama.

      • Agent Orange

        Actually, there IS a viable alternative to oil right now — it’s called “coal-to-liquids technology”, and it’s been around since World War 1. Just think of it, for just a tiny increase in gasoline prices, we can have a GUARANTEED SUPPLY of gasoline for the next 400 YEARS!

        • spike

          I am intrigued, tell me more.

      • Granny Mae

        Bookem Dano,

        Again I agree ! They will shut down the supply to us but there is always China to pick up the slack ! China will use LOT’S of OIL !

      • Carole Howell

        Bookem Dano,

        It is not taking Germany a 100 years, but then we are turning into a rather backward nation aren’t we? Hell Spain is passing us by and perhaps even Brazil.(most of Europe has)

        There is no reason for it to take a 100 years, that is big Oil propaganda. If we set our minds to it, we could surpass everyone else in the world in 10 years by 5 times. Spain is using our technology now, and why not, we are not using it.

        Of course we would have to get big business’s money out of our government first. Hell we don’t even have our first Bullet Train we are so behind the times. What a shame, we have gone so far down hill. The world is passing us by. We who once led the world in technological advancements.

    • GHEORGHE 4 EVER

      WE CAN ALL THANK JAMES EARL CARTER (PEANUT JIMMY) FOR THE MESS WE’RE IN NOW. IF HE HADN’T BEEN A GUTLESS S.O.B., AHMADINJIHAD WOULD HAVE BEEN HANGING IN FRONT OF THE U.S. EMBASSY IN TEHRAN ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

  • bob

    isreal is gods land. he will protect isreal when the time is right, and when he does then we will all see who the real power is.

    • Al Sieber

      Bob, does that mean what I think it does?

    • JRC

      This is a pipe dream, you have fallen for the fairy tales of the master race….nope, learning from the past proves that there is either NO god (my conviction) or he does NOT care what goes on on this planet because he has his hands full with other problems.

      • Mike In MI

        No, JRC – It isn’t that HE doesn’t care. The truth is that you don’t care and don’t want to be responsible for yourself in a way tht’s meaningfu to Him. When you start to get that in order you will find out just how greatly He really does care, has cared and has acted regarding that care. He’s done as much as He can do for you to this point…now it’s your turn to act. Start acting like and adult and put your money where your mouth is – be personally responsible for a change. All your excuses are just rationalzations for doing thing you know are dumb.

      • vicki

        JRC, There is another potential reason for God’s seeming to not do things you want.

      • bob

        its sad to me that you feel there is no god but thats your right to believe that way abd im knocking it. i hope that one one day you will see that their is a god. but my believe is that he shows tough love and he is a forgiveng god. but wen the time is right for him he will show all that he is in control.

      • bob

        jrc, im sorry i meant to say im NOT knocking your choice not to think there is god.

      • Granny Mae

        JRC,
        There is a God but too many people want him to control everything in our lives and they want to blame him for everything that happens in their lives that they feel is unjust. When God created us he gave us free will. We choose to do the things we do and there by must accept the results of our own actions. Yes bad things happen to good people and it is by the bad choice or decission of someone else ! It isn’t fair but that is the way it is. God wants us to love him by our own choice and not because he has dictated it so ! He does not interfear in our lives because of our free will. What kind of life would we have if he controlled every aspect of our life? What kind of love for him would we show if we were forced to love him? We have free will and will have to choose our actions and then live by them. There comes the final judgment ! Good or bad it is up to you ! You can believe if you want to but he will never force you ! The choice is yours.

        • Granny Mae

          Let me also say that he does come into our lives from time to time by our invitation, but not always in the way we want him too and not always when we want him too ! I don’t have the answer for that He does !

          • bob

            bless you granny mae. you said it better than me.

        • Vicki

          Well said. You understand. Some have said that God does not exist or is dead because God would not allow war. They do not understand.
          God most certainly does exist and does care. However He can not break His promise. God does not prevent war because that would be breaking His promise of free will.

    • Carole Howell

      Dream on Bob, LOL

    • spike

      Amen, Bob.

  • David

    Iran is easy. Take out a midget, a few clerics, and the nuclear power plants (via Israel) and let the civilians take over. Drop leaflets from 30k feet on all major cities to play nice and share their oil.

    Case closed, one more domino removed from the chain.

    • Bob

      I hope all the level-headed readers on this sight don’t fall for the Ziuonist propaganda that they fell for to destroy Iraq. Ben Crystal is just another Zionist warmonger who wants to shed American blood for Israel.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No one destroyed Iraq. Are you blind? People there are now free. Women and children can freely go to school and walk the streets. Is this a bad thing to you? People who want government change no longer have to worried about being tied up and sprayed down with water and have electrical wires zapping them as punishment. People arent having their heads cut off because Uday Hussein feels like getting his kicks for the day. Iraq is much better off than it was before, and it’s getting better everyday. Problem is, we are leaving too soon, before its stable, and it probably will crumble, but isnt that what the democrats in power want? Sure it is. That way they can make sure it fails and they can continue to point the finger at Bush and Cheney and say “look what they did”, when in fact, its their incompetance in following through that is going to make things fall apart, and that is sadly, exactly what they want. And there isnt a doubt about it.

        • Patricia Smith

          Beberoni: Better Off because of US? We should never have gone into Iraq. There was no REAL reason for it. The Bush Administration made this decision based on lies they made up and sold to Americans and Europe. Always follow the money Beberoni, who got most of it? Just recentely we found out that OUR government wasted or LOST over 5 billion. What about the lives of Americans, almost 5 thousand, and over 32 thousand seriously wounded, and you suggest we stay longer. INSANE.! We cannot force our type of Democray on to others, hell, those idiots in Washington can’t even follow our own Constitution or Bill or Rights, and we’re so arrogrant as to assume these sand countries want it. They will continue to kill each other as they have been since Biblical time, and I just want our boys and girls out of the line of fire, and keeping our tax dollars here in America is a pretty good idea also

          • Lubo

            Patricia Smith…..Maybe you would rather fight the enemy on your street corner within your “Security Blanket”. Maybe you need to go back and check the voting records of the congress on this issue. You think Bush can go to WAR without the consent of the congress as well as the consent of the American people? I find it interesting that those who oppose now are on record supporting the former President…then. I wonder what has changed??? You think it may be “Political”??

            Again, check you records and come back and tell me that a VAST majority of both the congress and the American people did not support this war in Iraq.

            Now, the only thing I disagree with concerning the war in Iraq is that we should have commited the necessary forces, in the very beginning, to wrap this thing up quickly thus saving many many lives in our military. As far as our continued presence in Iraq, we have done our job and removed a MURDEROUS dictator with the BLOOD of millions of innocent lives on his hands. Now it is time for the Iraqi people to decide who will be their next dictator or do they choose freedom? The choice is theirs and hopefully we will not need to go back in a few years to take out the next idiot who has bad intentions against the USA.

            We often forget the tragic events of 9/11, but I can assure you, in the near future, we all are going to be reminded of just who this ENEMY is and what they are willing to do, to DESTROY us. We can either wake up and act like BRAVE AMERICANS or stick our heads in the sand while Barack Obama flies aroung the world giving his apology for America tour. BOY THAT WILL FIX IT! I’m sure they FEAR US now! I BET YOU MONEY that Iran will stop it’s quest for obtaining nuclear weapons!

            I think all of us at this point are WAR WEARY with both wars, however, losing sight of the truth sometimes makes us make bad decisions, like electing Barack Obama, which has resulted in a country divided down the seams and a world which has become MUCH more dangerous due to our projected weakness. I don’t think the “Just can’t we all get along” mantra will work with a bunch of radical islamists.

            What do you think?

          • Davnkatz

            Poor Patricia Smith! You are spewing the typical, worn out, libterd cr-p. Either you are too young to remember, too stupid to care, or too ignorant and dismissive of libs own proclamations. Every major & minor lib (incl Hillary and the Clinton admin., other countries, even the UN declared & emphasized Hussein had weapons of mass destruction WMD). 9-11 caused “W” to declare war on terror, AND, With the exception of 3-4 libterds, they ALL voted for “W” to invade Iraq. Congress also approved taken Sodamn Insane “out”. The libterds started to oppose “W” ONLY when no WMD were found and “W” started country-building instead of vidorously pursuing terror orgaanizations in other eastern countries – plus they had to attempt to recoup their libterd polocies.

            ALL of this can be confirmed by doing a search on the web (even YouTube).

            So, Patricia, instead of being a dumb parrot, do a little research and find out for yourself.

          • Lubo

            T Davnkatz….Well said and if GWB had continued to press forward with the WAR against ALL terrorist fronts, with the total might of our military, then it would be OVER…period. Nation building should not be part of WAR…leave that for the diplomats, after you have WON a decisive victory by totally crushing the enemy.

            The military should be for ONE purpose and ONE purpose alone, Kill people and break things, nothing more and nothing less. Anything else will be nothing more than returning our nation to the 60′s(Vietnam) and we all know how well that worked out! You end up with 58,000 brave men dead, for NOTHING!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Lubo,
            I love how all the politicians are now talking about how well the surge worked and how they were all for it and then FOX plays recordings from the time before the surge and it was being considered!!! I had such a good laugh today!!!! now they are seeing the “little” surge is working in Afghanistan and are talking about a larger one and how we might be in Iraq for another decade or more!!!

          • Granny Mae

            Lubo, You said it right. War is just that , WAR ! It is intended to go in kill and destroy, not shoot a little here and get killed a little there and then try to make nice ! There is no nice in the whole concept of war ! If we go to war then lets got to war and destroy everything and get the H–L out and forget about rebuilding anything ! The more time these war torn countries spend rebuilding their country back up the less time they will have to think about making war and war threats on someone else ! They won’t have time to think of terrorism ! If they start messing with us here then we take care of it here and we don’t do it nice either ! I’m sick of people that would rather live under opression rather than make war and stand up for freedom. If that is the way they want to live then there is the door and don’t let it hit you on the way out ! Go some place else !

          • spike

            It’s a shame you don’t see the historical truth, but I think you are way off base. I will repeat myself here. Ollie North knew who Osama was long before 9/ll. Al Gore knew who he was, too. Trouble was, nobody had the balls to finish what was started when we had to go help
            “handle” the Kuwait situation….pardon, madame, were we WRONG there? Trouble was, we didn’t finish the job. And because we didn’t finish the job, we ‘bought time” and nothing more. Then we needed an exucse
            to go back there. I’ll repeat: on 9/l2, should GW have said”my fellow Americans…I have decided we’ll just forgive and forget” ???

        • 45caliber

          Beberoni”

          You are correct. The libs can’t stand that.

          • Maranatha! Mark

            Patrica Smith, had we not gone into Iraq when we did (which was 7 months later than we should have), Saddam would have eventually brought the fight here to our soil in the form of nuclear warheads raining down on American cities, or had we have waited a couple of years longer, then we would see Americans dying and wounded in numbers akin to World War II. Most Americans are ignorant of our history, and don’t understand that during D-Day, several thousand young Americans lost their lives on the 1st day. The weapons that are fielded today are far more lethal than those of the 1940′s. Saddam, like Iran’s little nut job, was promising to destroy this country and working like mad to gain the weapons to do so, while murdering thousands of his own people. If you have some idiot who says he is going to kill you and you see him start building a gun to do so, do you wait for him to finish building the gun and take the first shot, or do you take him out before he has a chance to harm you? The reason we are floundering in Iraq and Afghanistan, is we are letting politicians in Washington and the U.N. dictate the way the war is fought. We should have told the generals to go in and win the war by whatever means necessary, and we would have been out of both campaigns by now. Instead, our politicians wring their hands about world opinion and other such non-sense. War is horrible and should never be fought to where folks can accept it. It should be fought all out or not at all. If we had used the same techniques that we used on Germany and Japan, there would be no terrorist now, as we would have either killed them all or the non-combatants would have given them up, to stop the onslaught of the American military machine. You have to convence the enemy that war with you is so costly in human lives that they don’t dare even think about going to war with you. Had we had done this with Iraq in the first Gulf War, there wouldn’t have been a 2nd Iraq War! If you level villages and towns that allow terrorist to setup camp, then no village or town will allow them in! I know to many weak-kneed folks reading this will think I am blood thirty, but I am not. War is always a last restort, but it must never become so accomodating that it become ho-hum or acceptable in the public eye. And an enemy must know that when they start a war with the U.S., they will utterly and completely destroyed, so that they never entertain such insane thought, and when we are forced into a war, we don’t need to go in afterwards and rebuild what we have destroyed… they brought the war on themselves, they should have to deal with the aftermath!

            Blessing to all!

            Maranatha! Mark

          • eddie47d

            Maranatha(our Lord come); “They brought the war on themselves” I would say you are poking and prodding for a few war games yourself. Iraq never had nuclear capabilities either. It was all show (on paper) and no blow. Our intelligence was very unintelligent.

          • 45caliber

            Maranatha:
            The problem is that the liberals never believe what a man says. They ALWAYS assume that he is only joking – until he pulls the trigger. By then it is too late.

            Actually, as a professor told my class many years ago, too many Americans put themselves in the place of those in other countries. They ask themselves, “Would I do this if I was in his place? No! Therefore he won’t.”

            The professor stated that was the biggest failing that Americans had when dealing with other countries – and was the biggest mistake our politicians continued to make.

            Before you can determine what someone else might do you MUST know his complete background and where he comes from. Too many Liberals assume that all people are alike and think the same way. WRONG!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            M!Mark,
            I agree with your outlook on war! I remember reading, i don’t know where, that war should be fought to a point that sickens all. That way it will be a long time till they consider it again!!! hese wars we fight so as to make people feel good about them only serve one purpose, to make them willing to risk it again and again!!!

          • Viktor Leben

            eddie,

            The Iraqui’s had Sarin, and it was used on some of our troops.

          • Granny Mae

            Maranatha Mark

            AMEN brother ! Finally someone with a brain ! Too many people like you said are running the war from Washington instead of letting the Generals do it . They would get us in and out with a lot less casualties and in a lot less time ! I don’t know how anyone that has never been in the military can think they know how to fight a war ! Washington needs to turn it all over to our generals and step back and let them get it done !

        • JRC

          Nope they are not “FREE” they are recovering and about to be turned into cute little consumer slaves and credit card users so the international bankers and corporations make even more profit…if that is what you call free, you need to see a professional for help.

          • vicki

            perhaps you have become confused between buying something because you want to and buying something because a gun is pointed at you and the holder demands you buy something.

            Unlike Obamacare those “evil” bankers you complain about have not pulled out guns to force me to buy their products.

        • Bob

          Right All Iraqis are free. Too bad we can’t ask the 2 million that are dead.

          • vicki

            would that be the 2 million that Saddam killed or were you talking about another group?

          • vicki

            The link to go with my post above.
            http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein.html

          • Craig

            Freedom tends to be costly in blood there Bob. Did not you learn anything in history.

        • Granny Mae

          Beberoni,

          Iraq was a free sort of country before we went in there. It was not like Afghanistan. Iraq had a lot of freedom especially for the middle east. When Bush decided to go in there I was torn in my feelings between two conflicting facts. One is that Hussien had played coy with the UN and their inspection for WMD. I feel they did have them at one time but they managed to hide them either in the desert or in another country close by, so because of that I felt we were right to go in and find those WMD and get rid of them because this guy had already invaded one country and was trying to show his muscle again! However, we were already in Afghanistan and I felt that we needed to finish our mission there first and I also felt that Bush was down deep, trying to fix what his daddy had messed up ! That could have waited till we were through with our mission in Afghanistan, then if Hussein was still causing trouble we could straighten that out. Problem is we never go into a war and fight it like a war should be fought. We don’t want to hurt inocent people and children so we don’t really go at it full force with the knock them down and take them out and get it over with. War is not nice and we can never make it nice. War is hell on earth so if you are going to have a war you need to fight all out and make it as short as possible and then get out of Dodge. You don’t stick around to rebuild and set up their government! Let them do that. They do not live the same life we do so they need to set up a government to their life style not ours !

        • Carole Howell

          Beberoni,

          Where do you get this nonsense, the educated people of Iraq, most of their Doctors, lawyers, business men, educators have fled Iraq, millions of people were left homeless, Iraqi women are victims of the human flesh peddlers, Schools and hospitals, power plants and water purification plants have been destroyed and not rebuilt, the only thing we have built there is permanent military bases. We will not be leaving there for decades if ever.

          Iraqi businesses and banks have been destroyed or taken over by foreigners.

          Where do you get your information, and the Iraqi people are not as free as they once were before we went in, it is no longer a truly secular state. Women are now victims of the so-called honor killings, that were illegal under Saddam and sold into slavery.

          If you do not know what you are talking about, just don’t talk. It is almost criminal for you to say we have improved the lives of the Iraqi people, it is a cruel thing to say. We slaughtered them by the 100s of 1000s, maimed 100s of 1000s more, left millions homeless, are you mad?

      • marvin

        Bob, what are you smoking if you think that as- holes want to be ruler in iran will not make dirty bombs for his friend in the white house,with are south border being under control,as per nepolitano an,t no way anyone could bring in one dirty bomb, mabe 20 but not one,when your skin starts to glow just remimber
        Ben Crystal
        is a war monger, ben is a war monger and you are a moron

        • Bob

          I don’t reply to people named Marvin

          • vicki

            Interesting. You just did.

      • Bill Thomas

        Yea, I wonder if he goes to the same restaurants as Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol and the rest of the Neocons just salivating for another war in the Middle East.

        • Al Sieber

          Bill, you must of read Project For A New American Century.

        • Davnkatz

          Bill, read my reply to Patricia Smith. The world can be a bad plce and life can be hard, but it is even tougher when you are stupid – to paraphrase John Wayne. Am I calling you and your ilk stupid? Well, as Forrest Gump used to say, “Stupid is as stupid does.”

          • Bob

            John Wayne another armchair Rambo

          • Al Sieber

            DavnKatz, you need to read the PNAC act, and history.

      • Viktor Leben

        Bob,

        I have to disagree with you. The article seems to hinge on the idea that Prez Obama’s foreign policy is flawed when it comes to Iran. One of his premises is weakness shown by current US foreign policy is being exploited by Iran.

        Definitely not a work Of “zionist propaganda” . It’s more of a advocacy of a surrogate solution, ie have the IDF take care of the problem. In other words, Bob, Israel (the “Zionist”) are about to save our Yankee ass. Make sure you send the Knesset a “Thank You” card …

        This begs the question ” Is Prez Obama’s foreign policy anti-Israel ? Specifically could this all have been avoided if the US had a tougher foreign policy ?”

        It could be a mute point because the USA doesn’t have the money to invade Iran – thank you Federal Reserve/Wall Street.

        • Bob

          How is Israel gonna save us. They ran out of Lebanon with their tails between their legs.

          • Viktor Leben

            Good comment Bob ! Another interesting page for the History books.Let’s turn the page and see what happens !

          • Al Sieber

            Viktor and Dave, we already know what happens next.

  • Wlmitch1

    Let Isreal take care of business. Another Nazi-style genocide against the Jews is the very LAST thing the world needs! If we FAIL to stand with Israel, the wrath of God will be upon us!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree. The minute we remove our hand from them, God will remove His hand from us. I would imagine He isnt too happy with us now, being that our very government kicks Him out of school and out of work and out of government. We glorify perversion by putting gays on a pedestal and insisting its normal, which it is not. We fund murdering babies in their mothers wombs, which brings a tear to His eye. And our officials god is the allmighty dollar. So I know God is already displeased with us. When we pull out on Israel, thats it, were toast. No doubt about it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Berberoni,
        As long as we keep him in our hearts, we are, I believe, safe!!!! That is what my Bible tells me and I believe it whole heartedly!!

      • Carole Howell

        I fail to see how Israel with their policies are making God very happy at the moment. Many Jewish people here and around the world and in Israel it’s self are against Zionism.

    • Matt

      WLmithc1 and Bob, I respect your comments, but see them as misguided.
      Read Jeremiah, Malachi and the prophets. God (to all should always be capitalized) pronounced many punishments and damnations to Israel. He used other nations to punish them when they turned away from Him to idols and self exhalation. To the point, the seed of David was chosen merely to bring Christ into the world. The Church is the Kingdom (the New Jerusalem) that was to be established. The final kingdom that God was to establish through Christ was not an earthly kingdom, but a spiritual kingdom. God is no respecter of persons, but commands all men to be saved. PLEASE READ: Galatians Chapter 3 verses 23-29. I say this to point out that God’s concern from the beginning was pointing to Christ and his kingdom everything in between was just a vehicle. Why would God be interested in going back to an earthly kingdom in Israel? The current idolatry is greed $$ and Zionism for which all who practice will be punished as it is written.

      • Maranatha! Mark

        Matt, “God” isn’t His name, it is what He is. YHWH is His name.

        • Matt

          Daah!! Every reference to Him even pronouns should be capitalized. You don’t need to know Hebrew to get that just knowledge of proper capitalization.

      • Maranatha! Mark

        Matt, you are also wrong about YHWH being done with Y’israel and the Church replacing them. If you subscribe to ‘Replacement theology’ errors, then you have nothing to stand on in your faith. The Abrahamic, Palestinian,Davidic and New Covenants are unconditional covenants, and were promises made to Y’israel, not the Church. According to Romans 11: 17-24 we were ‘grafted in’ not the tree chopped down and a new one planted. When YHWH told Abraham, I will curse those who curse you and bless those who bless you, He put not conditions on it. So while it is true Y’israel is current divorced from YHWH, before the book of Jeremiah was finished the Father was already preparing to reconcile with them. It will be a remnant of Y’israel that calls Yeshua back… according to scripture, or are you saying the Old Testament was a mistke on YHWH’s part and Yeshua lied? You can cherry pick scriptures to back almost any stance you want to take, but when you use the full counsel of the Bible, then things like the replacement theology, simply don’t hold up to the light of Truth!

        Blessings and Shalom,

        Maranatha! Mark
        P.S. No, I am not a Jew, I am a Messianite.

        • Matt

          Maranatha, Maranatha. Certainly grafted in; the point was that the Jew was not excluded from the church, but a vital component. This has nothing to do with LAND or the LOCATION of it. The promise to Abraham was that through his seed all nations would be blessed (i.e. Christ). Also read Galatians 3:14-19. Who is cherry picking scriptures? The big picture is that it was all to be spiritual not earthly. Man was made in the image if God (i.e. man has a spirit) not that God two arms and legs. Christ came first to the Jew, but was rejected as prophesied and then to the Greek (included in area of your reference passage). God kicked Israel in and out of the land many times, so did he break a promise each time they were booted out? No, they broke the covenant. Again do you understand what you are reading? Did you read the passage in Galatians?

          God Bless

    • JRC

      God is nothing but a figment of your superstitious mind, he was invented to control the simple minded masses.
      There will be NO wrath of God, those are nothing but fairy tales

      • Wlmitch1

        If you choose to NOT believe in God, that is your right. If you want to risk facing God’s Judgement in the hereafter for mocking Him, that is also your right. But do not berate those of us who believe. We have a right to express our faith, and will defend that right. The statistics do bear out, however, that the incremental losses of our Liberty and a massive increase in crime, and other deviant conduct, directly coincided with the expulsion of God from public life in America. That is not surprising to those of us who believe.

        • Matt

          AMEN!!!

        • Granny Mae

          JRC.

          You have missed the whole concept of GOD. You think that our minds needed to be controled so we invented GOD. Wrong. To the God fearing pearson, God does not control anything. He holds no control over us that is why you are free to believe or not believe. God created us to love and worship him, but if he held control over us that would mean that we would be made to love and worship him. That would not be satisfying to GOD. He wants to be loved by us freely and of our own accord, otherwise our love is meaningless. If you have a wife, do you want her to love you because you say she has too or would you rather she love you because she wanted to? Makes a big difference doesn’t it? When you love God it is because he gave you his love first. He gave you everything including your life ! He gave you free will to choose to love him to choose to do right in your life. God chose to make it possible for you to be forgiven even if you choose to do wrong, you see His intention for us is to one day be with him for all eturnity in heaven, which is another demention so to speak. In order to get there and be with God forever we must live our life in accord with the rules that God set down for us! We call those the ten commandments. It is a set of rules to live by. When we get into reading the bible the scriptures go into detail more about those comandments and explains them better. We make a conscous effort to live by this set of rules . However right from the beginning man was weak and went against what God had told him so we say he sinned. Adam and Eve were banished from the garden of eden where their life would have been a life of ease and they would have lived forever, but because they disobeyed God now they would have to toil hard just to live and get by. Once sin came upon us it came over and over again. Cain became jelouse of Able and killed him so God then banished Cain from the rest of the family and sent him out on his own. From this time on God still loved us but he knew we would have to be forgiven for all our sins before we could go to heaven. That is when he decided to one day send his only son that who so ever believith in him should not perrish but have everlasting life. I think that God knew that we would have to learn a lot of things and come to understand a lot of things before we could understand his salvation for us. He walked with us for a long time and during that time he taught us a lot of things and we did begin to learn and eccept his teachings, however we floundered for a long time and still didn’t get it quite right. We seem to keep going off the beaten path in other directions. God decided to send His Son the savior, but he had to come through a special line of decendants. It was to be through the line of David. Mary was chosen to be the vessel for the carrying of the savior. She was a pure and inocent girl and because of that she could be the mother of the Son of God. Through this woman and the step father of Joseph a rightous man, God entrusted his Son to their care. Can you imagine being given the care of the life and welfare of the Son of God? They did a marvelous job and Jesus grew to a man. At about 30 years of age he began his public life and the work of the Father of teaching mankind how it was that he was to get to heaven. This man Jesus posessed the most wonderful powers that everyone was amazed at the wonder of Him. There is no place in the bible that I know of where anyone living at that time that knew Him or of Him did they ever say his powers were fake. On the contrary, they came to him from everywhere. There was a time they even tore up the roof of His house so as to be able to lower a crippled man asking Jesus to heal him and Jesus did and the man walked out of the house of his own accord ! Now if these things were only found in the bible I might say perhaps you could be right but they are not. These accounts are recorded by many different people in many different places so they are not just fairy tales. Jesus taught everyone for about 3 years and then the chief priests and scribes set out to seize him and to kill him. He was captured in a place called Gethsemane where He had gone to pray. He was taken before the chief priests and scribes and they were questioning Him to find some complaint that they could take before Pilate to have Him killed. To make a long story short they could find no fault in Him and still the scribes and priest insisted that He be killed They had Him beaten. They spit on Him and hit Him with their fists slapped His face and has Him beaten with a whip. Finally they crowned Him with thorns and hung Him on a cross. Jesus died at about 3 in the aftrenoon. He was taken off the cross and placed in a toumb of a man named Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus job was almost done. His death was to take our place for sin so that we might have forgivness and everlasting life. He was our atonement. During his time in the toumb Jesus went to the Gates of the nether world and set free all those that died befor his sacrifice. Their sins too were forgiven. After the passover the women went to the toumb to finish dressing the body for burial and they found the toumb empty! He had risen and all that was there was the cloths that his body had been wrapped in. The empty toumb caused quite a problem because it had been guarded by soldiers so that no one would try to steal the body at night and yet the body was gone. The deciples were devastated because they thought the soldiers took him and they wanted to know where they had put him. Well it turns out Jesus had risen from the dead and for the next 40 days was seen all over the place with his deciples and such. He even had meals with them. Then he assended into heaven. There is no way that you can tell me that 12 men would go out after this mans death and travel all over to preach eternal salvation through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as savior and go through what they went through just to give their lives for nothing. They may have gone out for six months or so, maybe some for even a year but the twelve of them to go for the rest of their lives to spread the word if it wasn’t all true. What man would give his life for a lie? Would you? Not me ! I have experienced apersonal relationship with the Lord and come to know his comfort when no other could comfort me. I have experienced personal miracles. Happenings that defy explination. To tell you the truth, at first it was scarry because I couldn’t understand it. I suffered with heart problems for over 40 years. I took medication for years and had a heart attack at work one night. Finally while in the doctors office I had a masive heart attack and was sent for a heart catherization. I had a lot of people praying for me and it worked. After all those years and all that medication my heart was healed ! The heart cath showed that there was no blockage of any kind and no sign that I had ever had a heart attack ! Anyone that has had heart problems knows what that pain is like and if you have ever had a heart attack you will never forget it ! I have no pain today. None. JRC. There is a God and he is there for you just like he was there for me. All you have to do is accept him into your heart and make him the center of your life, You got nothing to loose my friend, so go ahead and try it. You will like it !

      • Matt

        Psalm 14:1 The fool has said in his heart “there is no God”.

        • vicki

          What still puzzles me about those who claim there is no God is how they can look around at all that God has created and not see. The intricate beauty of every law of physics that we discover. The complex interactions that show up in the multitude of life here on this planet (and probably elsewhere in the Cosmos). The delicate yet substantial balance of all the interactions. And yet they do not see the hand of God and deny His existence.

          All this and only 3 dimensions. Just imagine what God has wrought in those other dimensions.

          • Granny Mae

            Vicki,

            I have wondered the same thing at times.

      • Davnkatz

        JRC
        If we Christians are wrong and you are right, you will have no worries ’cause everything ends when you die. We Christians will have lost nothing except certain temporary pleasures.

        If we Chriastians are RIGHT and you are WRONG, we will enter into the presence of GOD – thanks to Jesus – when we die, but YOU will have eternity to regret your decision and your life..

        • David

          Amen!

        • vicki

          Pascal’s wager.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JRC,
          The Lord is all about choices. He gives you the choice to believe or not. He would that you believe but, again, it is up to you. As for Me and Mine, We CHOOSE TO BELIEVE!!!

        • Granny Mae

          Amen Amen !

      • Viktor Leben

        JRC ,

        Thank You ! You can be our “Token Atheist” ! Y’know, the funny dude we all hang around who makes totally ignorant comments about theology ! HA ha !

  • Kyle

    Those of you that say the U.S.A is not mentioned in Bible Prophesy obviously have not read Genesis 12:3; America Has spent time on both sides of the Promise. It is no coincidence that our ups and downs mirror our treatment and support of Israel. If we want to turn the tide, on the present economic situation, we need to reexamine our Middle East policy. Will We? Revelations, Daniel and Ezekiel say we won’t. Where does that leave us? Place your Trust in God; there is obviously no one left in Washington to trust. Matthew 6:19 Build up your riches in Haven; you may need them sooner than you think.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And our so called upper echelon of society, the political leaders and the lawyers and judges and such, are busy building up their treasures on earth, which we are told not to do. But money is their god, and these lepers are truly poor people, they just dont know it yet. But oh they will. You can bet they will.

      • http://outlookexpress louvnjr

        Truer words were never spoken, I admire you for your great Input. I tip my hat to you, Mr. Beberoni. All the politicians, all the Lawyers, All the people that we trusted are now more involved in lining their pockets,forgetting their solemnly oath that they took. And when their pockets get filled the make them DEEPER to hold more! MONEY,GREED,and POWER, Is our destruction.

        • Christin

          The Elite Ruling Class (including politicians & Lawyers) who steals from the people and enslave them are nothing more than “Modern Day Sadduces and Pharisees”. They profess God, but He will surely say, “I knew you not.” Their work is for evil and their selfish motives reveal the depth of their cold, dark hearts.

    • marvin

      Kyle,thing about the bible is there an,t no stories in it, they are all bible truths,but most people think that god won,t do what his word has said,he told us what was, what is, and what will be,god gave us a blue print on how to live and what to do,but we do not follow his blue print [bible]god gave man dominion of the earth and all that abide on it,how long did tha last,just long enuf for satan to say god is a liar if you eat that fruit you will be a god like him,so satan is now ruler of the earth, but god is still in control

      • 45caliber

        But (as the gays say) Jesus loves us! He would never allow God to destroy us! And He will take all of us to heaven regardless of what we do (or don’t do) here on earth!

        I think I’ll believe more of the Old Testament about what God may or may not do.

    • JRC

      It really is an embarrassment to see how many adults in the 21st century still believe a book of fiction written by men to control the superstitious masses.

      • Davnkatz

        JRC
        what is TRULY embarrassing is people like you who have been brain-washed bu anti-Christian theology and then try to feel good about it by attempting to argue with those of us who believe in God and strive to live as Christ-like as we humanly can. You are not going to convert any of us to your way of thinking – so quit trying. Your snide remarks only make you look dumb abd pathetic.

        Keep this in mind! Your non-belief will either be confirmed the instant you die, or you will face an eternity of damnation and punishment.

        Personally, I would rather be wrong and everrything end the instant I die than to be like you and learn at my death that I was wrong and face eternity in the punishment pit.

        • 45caliber

          I agree with you. But I really believe that he, like most atheists, are trying to convert everyone they can to their religion in the hope that God will decide Earth isn’t worth it and leave. Then they won’t have to worry about their life after death because everyone will be in the same fix. Really good of them, isn’t it.

    • Wlmitch1

      America was never mentioned SPECIFICALLY in the Bible, but is not excluded either. You are correct about those who stand with Israel and those who do not.

      Genesis 12:1-3 states,

      1 The LORD said to Abram:

      “Leave your country, your kinfolk, and your father’s house,
      for the land which I will show you;
      2 I will make a great nation of you.
      I will bless you and make your name great,
      so that you shall be a blessing.
      3 I will bless them that bless you,
      and curse them that curse you.
      In you shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.”

      You saw what happened to Hitler after he murdered six million Jews.
      The same will happen to Ahmadinejad if he tries to destroy Israel.

  • Theverns

    Great article, lots of humor detailing a very sobering subject. I agree with FreedomFighter, AhmaNutJob WANTS to meet God while destroying the great Satans of the West. And frankly, he would have still pursued nuclear power/BOMBS whether Saddam was in power or not and it is TIME to STOP deliberating the Iraq war, its a done deal, no going back, so let’s deal with the NOW. Israel is our last, best hope….our current administration is CLUELESS…..and China & Russia THINK they have a “friend” who will keep shipping oil, little do they realize just HOW crazy this regime truly is, the medium ranged missiles are meant to damn up the straits of Hormuz and stop the WORLD’S oil supply, causing ALL to BOW DOWN TO THE POWER THAT IS IRAN!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      But about the time they try that, they will be leveled.

  • Robert Young

    Nuke their nuclear facilities and also their oil fields. Leave them nothing to sell and their foreign Nation friends nothing to defend or want to go to war over. Go Israel!

  • http://outlookexpress louvnjr

    I’m with you my friend, we, I mean our wonderful land of politicians, do gooders, and money mongers that think like their GOD’S sitting on a throne. It’s more like the 3 monkeys, see no evil, speak no evil, and of course hear no evil. Come on we,- I mean our Country Is in the deepest trouble, more than world wars, YES!! For at least we new who the enemy were. WE do know now, but are afraid to take a STRONG and FIRM stance! Our fearless leader and his cronies believe all is well, and we will WIN!! It’s like a game playing with our young soldiers. While he is setting all of us on a death march. Sorry, I’m a vet, and I’ve seen my kind get spit at when coming home from Nam, both legs blown off begging for food!! That’s a disgrace. . I’m HURT, to see our most Intelligent people siding with GUESS what, the enemy. I Pledge of Allegiance, I believe in GOD, I’m a Christian, And I believe in, In God We Trust. Plus our land has more Christians than not. Sorry Obama, we are NOT Muslims.

  • Conservative at Birth

    There undoubtedly will be antother world war. Are you prepared?

    • 45caliber

      I’m even prepared for WWIV. I’ve got swords and the training to use them.

      • David

        That won’t stop a 45 caliber…..have you seen Indiana Jones? Keep your powder dry….or get some.

      • 45caliber

        Dave: I’ve got those too. But they are for WWIII, not IV.

  • s c

    Judging from some of the mean-spirited, hateful remarks above, it’s apparent that the rally in DC the other day really spooked Herr Obummer’s jock strap supporters.
    I get the impression that America’s fuhrer is on another recruitment drive, looking for those who come to the table with oatmeal between their ears.
    Some could not have graduated from high school or grade school, and still they demand to be seen as adults.
    Come back (with a note from your Mommy) when you can speak English and communicate at a 9th grade level, you miserable progressives, ‘Dems,’ libs and assorted braindead losers.

  • http://StanleyEngineering&StormsafeHousing Newman E. Stanley P E

    Why does an oil rich country like Iran need Nuclear Power? Why does it seem to be their number one priority? I was one of the engineers to help design and construct a plant during the last days of the Sha in Iran that provides them with the capability to manufacture some of the most advanced plastic explosives. I never read about this in the news yet I see evidence of its usage in Iraq and Afganistan against our own military personell. Certainly our military intellegence knows of this. Why is it not removed by cruise missles.

    The same thing will happen with their nuclear technology. Once they have the mass required to produce a nuclear explosion no matter how dirty it may be, it will be used. Probably first in the U S. With our borders as open as they are it will be easy to bring it in. Once they have the technology for a gamma ray device to be detonated at the right altitude it will wipe out all our countries solid state electrinics. Think of the things that now operate on solid state electronics, almost everything.

    • 45caliber

      I disagree about one thing: the moment they have their first nuke, they will use it on Israel to ‘prove’ they can attack it and to gather all the Muslims in the world behind them. We will get the second one.

      • JRC

        They do not need nukes to destroy Israel, they can do that today if they want to. If they work on a nuke, it is for one and only one reason, to destroy the US.

        • JCIG

          JRC … you seem to be a friend of our enimies, an enemy of our GOD and our country and as ignorant of truth as our misguided leaders. You have no fear of the LORD … and that makes you dead … only your body is living but not your spirit your soul being destroyed by the lies that you have bought into. I pity you and am so sorry that you will cease to be while myself and my brothers and sisters in the LORD will continue on even after our bodies die. I will pray for you though I don’t see that helping you because you WILLFULLY ignore the prompting that you know you have received from GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT to the point of seperation from the giver of life from the ONE who holds all things together even time and space.

        • 45caliber

          JRC:
          You remind me of most liberals I’ve met, particularly in the service. They were terrified of being killed and would rather live as a slave than risk it. I believe that is one reason so many liberals in politics believe they can control everyone in this country with threats. They care convinced that if they can make Americans believe they can kill them, that the Americans will immediately surrender.

      • Bob

        45 You have a wild imagination.

        • 45caliber

          Maybe. But I’m usually right, too.

          • Bob

            I think you’re left

          • 45caliber

            Bob:
            No you are the left. That’s one reason I’m right.

  • Cameron

    Everybody thinks that OIL is the most precious item in the world. Every advanced civilization today needs it to run everything: electricity, vehicles, the military, etc. Take away all the oil & man will adapt & find another means of powering his machines. If we let every oil -rich nation keep their precious black gold but deny them fresh drinking water then the true value of both liquids will become apparent. Let the camel-jockeys keep their deserts & oil. Draw a line around their borders & do not let them cross. The world will function so much better w/o them.

  • http://www.purple50.org Gregory Zorn

    Iran is a nation that has not attacked anyone in 200 years (Iraq attacked Iran) so “Iranian Aggression” is nonsence. Isreal (and the
    U.S.) on the other hand have, preemptave strikes, Bush Doctrin. Sadom was the boogy man for years now its Iran, I do not fear these people. Plus, we are broke, out of money thanks to the Bush Cheney debockles in the Middle East with Obama following in the folly.

    • Bob

      Remember when Bush said the Iraqi oil would pay for the war. Well the oil has been piped into Israel and they are selling it to the Chinese and making a fortune off American’s blood.

      • 45caliber

        Actually, the oil in Iraq goes primarily to Russia and France with Germany a close third.

        • Bob

          Russia has more than enough of it’s own oil. Who told you that?

          • Lubo

            Bob….. The same reason we buy OIL from the MIDEAST….save yours…buy theirs….it’s simple. We are sitting on one of the largest OIL reserves in the WORLD!!! So is RUSSIA!

          • Craig

            As do we. Better to use up other peoples oil and save yours. The Ruskies and ourselves is smart people.

        • 45caliber

          They have a lot of oil – and even sell it. But before we took Iraq, it was still going to Russia. After we took Iraq, it was decided by our government to not interfere with the oil contracts because that might make it seem that we really did take Iraq for the oil. So – we get nothing. At that time Russia didn’t have as much oil as they do now. But they still take it as far as I know.

          • Bob

            Why do you think we are leaving 50,000 troops plus contractors in Iraq? To protect the oil.

    • Al Sieber

      Gregory, I agree with you but, we need a war to take our minds off the real problem; the economy, kind of “wag the dog”. history repeats itself over and over, but very few see it.

  • marvin

    just a little of subject on cpain one of the moron that work for odumbo said it is not illegal to be in the usa undocumented and when a caller called him on it he said it is illegal but not criminal,du to trespass on land that is not yours is criminal,wonder were this moron got his education the school of stuped, i will say if israel were to take out irans nukes,obama will be first in line to condemn israel

    • 45caliber

      Of course Oblama will be first in line to condemn Israel. He’s already announced that he will issue orders to American jets to stop any Israeli jets trying to get to Iran. He wants the Muslims to cheer him. He’s going for the majority.

      • Bob

        Wrong 45 The Jews control Obama.

        • 45caliber

          I seriously doubt that.

          You must live in the NE. That seems to be the place where most people fear the Jews.

          • Bob

            I’m not afraid of Jews. Some of them are bad just like other groups.

          • 45caliber

            Bob:
            You fear them or you would know the ones that are causing the problems – if they really are. And if you knew them, you’d do something about them. I’ve heard those rumours from the NE for most of my life. As I said elsewhere, no one here in the South really pays any attention. All the Jews we know are good people.

    • http://eddie47d Ed Laurson

      Illegal Immigration is a civil offense

  • Charley41

    Bring the soldiers home, put them on our borders. Stop sending our money to our enemies.

    • Christin

      I second that motion Charley41!!

      Bring our troups home and send congress (with a few exceptions) and all WH staff and leaders (yes even the top) abroad to Iran, Iraq and Afgan. Bet pelosi, waters, lee-jackson, j.napalitano, … would look great in a full veil… course, they would probably get stoned… oh, well.

      • Agent Orange

        They’re all ALREADY stoned on pot, LOL.

  • http://jenersea@comcast.net James

    See where all this is headed, just as the Bible predicts. If Israel does bomb Iran. I believe that Iran in turn will mine the straits of Hermuz, so that no tankers get through and also will hit all the oil fields they can reach. This will send oil prices skyrocketing, which in turn will send world opinion totally against Israel, all this of course is in the Bible where it says the whole world will be against Israel. Will this be the action that would cause that to happen, probably. No easy answers to any of this. Action should have been taken long ago. Not it is in the critical stages. Pray that God will guide us and protect us. I know we can not turn our backs on Israel.

    • James

      Where does the Bible say “the whole world will be against Israel?”

      • Maranatha! Mark

        Zechariah 12:3, I believe it correct.

        • Davnkatz

          Correct. the exact wording is: ” On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her ..”

        • Davnkatz

          Correct! the exact wording is: “On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her …”

  • James

    Iran is no threat to the United States. They have no nuclear weapons that could reach us, anymore than did Iraq. It was the presence of WMDs there that triggered Congress to pass the Resolutions which authorized the Iraq invasion. When the assumed Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction, and the supposed involvement of Iraq in the 9-11 attack, was exposed as a fraud, The U.S. should have apologized to Iraq for the mistake and brought our troops home.
    The situation in Iran is no different. Refining Uranium for power plants is a long way from having WMDs. If Iran does the further refining necessary for nuclear weapons, there will be ample time to address that issue. The assumption that Iran will do that is hysteria to its extreme, by warmongers who want the U.S. to financially implode, which another mideast war would certainly accomplish.

    • James

      The “James” comment just above mine, of 11:01 AM, is not mint.

      • Christin

        Best to add another letter or number to your name for distinction.

    • 45caliber

      James:
      I can tell you are a real trusting soul. I have this bridge for sale at a real cheap price. Are you interested?

      • James

        45C, only if it’s the Brooklyn Bridge. Should we attack any nation that we feel might make nuclear weapons? Should we have attacked North Korea, we have troops there? How about France, they could make nuclear weapons easily? I’ve read where Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons, should Iran wait until Israel nukes ‘em before they make one? Does Iran have the right to defend itself against hostile neighbors?

  • Artie

    I cannot believe the comments that i am reading! Have you all lost your minds? Fact: The IAEA has been monitoring Iran for years and are now on the ground in Iran. Their report states that Iran only has the capacity to power nuclear power plants. They do NOT have highly enriched uranium! The second point, Iran is not OUR PROBLEM!! Iran poses NO THREAT to the United States! Next point, the U.S. government gets their marching order from the Zionist’s who seek to rule the world! That would be Israel! This, nonexistent problem is Israel’s business, not America’s! Who are any of you to declare that we should bomb Iran? I guess you are the same people who thought that Iraq had WMD. Bomb’s away!!! That simple? You guys have been lied to and propagandized for so long, you don’t even realize what you are promoting! Which country holds the largest amount of nuclear weapons? The U.S.! Which middle eastern country “unofficially” has nukes? Israel, also a nation that has not signed the nonproliferation treaty! Haven’t you had enough killing yet? We’ve brought freedom to Iraq?? Really? What we gave to Iraq is instability and a power vacuum! The U.S. invaded Iraq, based on proven lies!! Bush is on record as saying that he would have attacked Iraq, even if he knew that they had no WMD! Are you all blind to the fact that, one by one, our military, our kid’s, are eliminating all of Israel’s enemies, while Israel smuggly sit’s on their collective butts and let us take the casualties! This country was founded on the premise of small government, a small standing army, solely for the protection of America, not as the world police. Actually, the fouonding father’s expressly forbid the U.S. to sign any treaties! You guys are just drinking the cool aid and will cheer them all on!! More blood, more death!! They fooled us all about the WMD lies about Iraq. Now, they are going to likely, attack Iran, based on lies and propaganda!! You guys want to see the blood flow, fine, join the military and shed YOUR BLOOD! Or send your own kid’s over there to die! Are you willing to sacrifice your lives, or the lives of your kid’s, based on lies and propaganda? This country is hopeless!! As long as you sheeple behave and trust the government with everything you got, they will never be held accountable for their illegal actions!!

    • 45caliber

      Artie:
      My offer of the bridge goes to you too. And it’s cheap!

      • Maranatha! Mark

        I have a couple of tickets to Lolly-Pop Land on a ship made of Ice cream and cake, I’ll throw in as well to the first one of them that buys that bridge! LOL! Some fo these folks… really shouldn’t be allowed out without a helmet lined with aluminum foil, on!

      • Bob

        45 Caliber You are shooting blanks.

        • 45caliber

          May be … but people like you still tend to jump.

    • Christin

      Artie, I was for taking the fight to the Middle East after 9-11, so their would not be atrocities from them like we experienced in NY. But now I think we have been there long enough and I wasn’t for the Afgan war. The muslims, arabs, persians, and the Jews will fight until the end of times… I want our Military home securing our borders and protecting us from the destroyers from within. Would our vets stand with us?

    • Stevo

      Shut up Commie.

      • James

        Stevo, You have it backwards. It’s the federal government that’s communistic, not the people. Communism is where the government controls everything, which is where we are headed. The People are opposing that government control.

    • Granny Mae

      Artie,

      Get a new thinking cap. The old one shrunk !

    • Granny Mae

      Artie,

      This country is hopless huh? Well why don’t you give us all some hope and get the H–L out of Dodge ?

  • Lloyd Revalee

    I didn’t read this piece for the simple reason that the very first paragraph made me madder than hell. When that idion writer compared radical islamist to senior citizens, he showed his utter disdain for the elders in this country. I suppose he thinks it will all change when he gets old, and the older people will be someone to be proud of, and deserve the respect of the young folks.

    • 45caliber

      I think you mis-read his first paragraph.

      He wasn’t likening the Iranian terrorists to the elderly here. He was saying that they are crazier than our most crazy people.

  • http://gmail i41

    I see the wimpy pusified airy fairys put their Blarney Frank dolls down and are theorizing again. The only thing these pedophile muslim goat humpers understand is a damn hard beating. We see hoqw this marxist muslim moron talking and tea get togethers worked out. Just gave the smucks 2 years to create more problems all over. Of course all muslim are pathological compulsive liars, just look at the marxist muslim we have a “Prez”. Theorizize don’t accomplish s–t but prolongs the mess. Any time someone is messing with you and you square off, you will get a few lumps, but in this case, some men and planes will no doubt get flamed, but diaper headed idoits can go straight to hell in a glass holy shirt, no smell just sanatized. Go Israel, derfinitely don’t tell the socialist leaky Leahy democrats or the puke in the WH. Other wise he will be on his prayer rug with his goat hided string phone to the Iman. Make glass and fry their a–es, Israel!

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. Every time they get pounded, they try to sit back, have a bunch more kids, and teach them to attack a hundred years later in revenge. And if they fail again, they do the same thing again.

  • Barny

    It sounds like the author of this article is is more insane than the Iranian leader.

    • alpha-lemming

      Fife, Rubble, Fwank, Gumble, or the gay dinosaur (the purple one….. not Fwank)??

  • DaveH

    Can I something rational?
    Do we have nuclear weapons. Yes. Do we have any more right to possess them then any other country? No. Doesn’t it make us look a little hypocritical to pick and choose which countries can have them?
    How well do you think it would stand up in a court of law to say “But your Honor, I think he planned to kill me, so I had to kill him first”. And I know, some would say but this isn’t just one person’s life at stake. But aren’t we all individuals? Is one individual’s life any less important than ten individuals’ lives? Would you be the one who volunteered to die to save ten others?
    I expect Government to behave as morally as I expect the individual citizens to behave.
    My solution? We point multiple missiles at Iran. We let them know if we see one missile coming our way or if one dirty bomb goes off in our country, we launch them. Or if they attack another country in an unprovoked fashion with a nuclear weapon, we launch them. You can bet your butt, they would not launch that weapon and they would be vigorously weeding out their fanatics, including Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    • 45caliber

      I have to disagree about all you have said here. First, we at least TRY to maintain peace. They don’t. That should give us some right. Second, you may expect government to follow the will of the people, but I certainly don’t! Even if it is ours.

      The midget dictator in Iran has already stated that he is willing to have his country turned to glass if he can bring down the Great Satan (us) so the rest of the Muslims in the world can take over. He expects to go to heaven for that – when he knows there is no way to get to heaven on what else he has done.

      • Bob

        Iran has thousands of conventional missiles. They could do plenty of damage if they had a mind to.

        • 45caliber

          So? The last I saw of their missile use, they were so inaccurate that Israelis don’t even bother to duck any more. After all, they supply Syria and Hamas.

          • Bob

            Wrong again you parrot.

          • 45caliber

            Really? Then why do the missiles keep missing? Or are you trying to say the Israelites shoot them at themselves?

        • Lubo

          Bob……How well do you think conventional weapons will work against your enemy in a nuclear exchange? I fail to understand your logic?

          Fact is, ONE of our MANY Trident nuclear subs carry enough nuclear warheads to totally blow IRAN off the planet. In fact, our fleet of nuclear armed sub’s can distory every major industrialized nation on the planet.

          I guess that is why we are referred to as THE “Super Power” and being that I lived through the cold war with Russia, that is probably not a BAD thing.

          I’m not a war monger but our STRENGH and WILL are measured everyday by our enemies, and will continue to be, until the end of time. SO walk softly and carry a BIG stick and we will keep those enemies at bay, hopefully without violence.

          • Bob

            Lubo I lived through the cold war. It was just another charade so the arms industry could get rich. Wall Street banks financed Russia as well as Hitler. Just like the space industry is a scam. We’ve never been on the moon.

          • 45caliber

            Bob:
            Are you one of the “flat-earthers” who believe that the entire space program is generated in Hollywood?

          • Lubo

            BOb…. you lost me buddy?

        • Claire

          Bob—my husband would agree with you. Make no doubt about it, Iran could deal a mighty blow.

      • http://eddie47d Ed Laurson

        Be prepared but never be the aggressor.

      • DaveH

        If we strike the first blow, what does that make us? I say the aggressor. Especially in the eyes of countries other than our own.

        • Agent Orange

          Wrong — it was IRAN who ALREADY struck the first blow back in 1979 when they took our embassy workers hostage (which is a BLATANT ACT OF WAR), so we’re ALREADY AT WAR WITH IRAN and we have EVERY RIGHT TO LAUNCH AN ATTACK ON THEIR HOMELAND if we believe that they’re threatening us in any way!

          • Bob

            Back in 1953 the CIA overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran. They were just taking their country back.

        • Agent Orange

          And by the way, why would we give a damn about what other countries think of us? We all know that they hate and envy us anyway, no matter what we do or don’t do!

          • eddie47d

            agent orange =burning flesh. No wonder you love nukes!

    • Maranatha! Mark

      Pointing all the nuke in the world dosen’t work, if the nuts in charge think that they will be Allah’s favorite, for bringing on the chaos, death and destruction necessary to bring their Islamic Messiah! Your thinking is what got us into this mess, for you fail to understand how the Iranian President and the Clerics in charge see this.

      • 45caliber

        I agree. These liberals all want to believe that these people will act the same way they themselves would in the same situation. And that isn’t true.

      • DaveH

        Mark,
        It doesn’t matter what the nutjob Mahmaud thinks. Already there is a large contingent of his own people that don’t like him. He may be ready to die, but do you really think the rest are?
        The guy has been rattling his sabre for years now. He’s a blowhard.
        But even if not, I repeat, for us to strike the first blow makes us the aggressors. Maybe that sits well with you guys, but it doesn’t sit well with me. I prefer Teddy Roosevelt’s approach of walking softly but carrying a Big Stick.

      • DaveH

        I might add, that I believe it’s your kind of thinking that got us into this mess.
        If you want people to respect you then butt out of their businesss. If they attack, we should take them down 3 for every one of ours and then get the flock out of their country. Let them rebuild their own nation. They wouldn’t mess with us too many times. As it is now we’re draining our financial and military resources on the futile attempt to change the Middle-Eastern Muslims. They aren’t going to change. They’ve been fighting their neighbors for 100s of years.
        How would you like it, Mark, if we had Mexican police (not mexican-american, but Mexican) patrolling our streets with uzis? You wouldn’t. So why do you think the Iraqis, or the Afghanis would somehow love us for doing it? Dream on.

        • Agent Orange

          It doesn’t matter what those iraqui and afghani ragheads think of us, cause they’re SAVAGES and can’t manage their own affairs! And the fact is, we CIVILIZED folks HAVE to keep the SAVAGES from doing as they please, cause if we don’t then they’ll ATTACK us to take all our goodies from us!

        • eddie47d

          Dave makes good sense most of the time and he knows about the other times. Agent Orange,Your a nut job.

          • Al Sieber

            eddie47d, I agree with you 100%.

    • Al Sieber

      DaveH, thanks, I couldn’t of said this better.

  • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

    Albert Einstein said:

    “With the splitting of the atom, everything has changed except our way of thinking.”

    There could be no better example of this statement than the preceding article. Does anyone really think that Iran…even with a few primitive nuclear weapons… would attack a country with over 200 sophisticated nukes, let alone an ally (us) with a fleet of submarines, any one of which could destroy all the major cities in the world?

    Whatever happened to MADD? I know what many of us are…MAD!

    Phil Klein

    • 45caliber

      I believe what they say – and they say they will attack as soon as they have the means. You are placing yourself in their shoes and trying to decide what they would do based on what YOU would do. And that never works.

      • DaveH

        What never works, 45, is becoming the bad guys in which case we would have no moral standing.
        At any time in our lives there are numerous people that could walk up and put an end to us. Does that justify us to become the aggressors? That logic wouldn’t work on an individual level and it doesn’t work on the country level either.

        • Agent Orange

          Why the hell would we need “moral standing” when we got all the FIREPOWER in the world?!

          • Al Sieber

            So Agent, just keep going against the Founding Fathers about staying away from foreign entanglements? why are we so war hungry? we should take care of our own borders and country and people, and not be a puppet of Israel. we’re are now the modern version of Rome,a empire. we are in serious trouble, our economy, our rights etc. this is all a distraction, and it’s working.

      • Bob

        Let Israel spill their own kids blood.

      • 45caliber

        I don’t believe I’ve once said that we should hit them first just because. I have no problem waiting until they act. But when (not if) they attack we need to slam them back into the stone age. The problem is that too many liberals shudder at the very idea of doing that. “They might shoot back and hurt someone here! Besides, it’s wrong to defend yourself with violence! Violence never solves anything!”

        Actually, violence does solve things. It prevents them from trying again.

    • JRC

      You are over estimating the power and destruction of a nuclear weapon. Do some research and you will find out why the nuclear powers have thousands of them…they would NOT need them if each nuclear submarine would be able to destroy all the cities on earth.

      • 45caliber

        All cities? There are a lot. But the biggest and most important ones? Easily. How many can you name? Basically the capitols of Europe, four or five in the US, a couple in China, Tokoyo, and perhaps a handfull more in the world. One city in South America, none in Africa.

        • Bob

          45 What would happen if one of these missiles was screwed up and blew up in the silo. You make it sound like it’s setting off a firecracker.

        • 45caliber

          Bob:
          So it did blow up in the silo. It would probably ruin a good section of land and kill everyone near it. It isn’t any worse than an enemy nuke would be if it landed.. And I’d rather take that risk than allow the enemy to continue throwing them at us while I trembled in fear of even using my own. I grew up with some nuclear silos near me in Arkansas. Did it bother anyone? Not that I know! It’s the ones that don’t blow up in silos that are the problem. And despite someone saying that nukes aren’t that powerful, some of them are. Despite the size of our biggest cities, some are big enough to wipe out the city. Hiroshima was only ten megatons if I remember correctly. Some today are thousands of megatons in size with 100 mile burst diameters.

          • Agent Orange

            Actually, a nuclear missile CANNOT blow up on accident — it has to be POSITIVELY ARMED before the nuke part would detonate. Sure, the propellant and the conventional (primer) explosives might blow up IF someone was MIGHTY CARELESS, but that’s NOWHERE NEAR the size of a nuclear explosion.

          • eddie47d

            Looks like Agent Orange is ready to pull the switch on nukes. He really wants to meet his Master.

          • Al Sieber

            Yeah, he should run for president.

  • alpha-lemming

    Try this on for a plan.

    Sic China on them. They’re running out of land, they’re trying (too slowly) to instill, at least, some rudimentary capitalism, they’re the leading (I think) world consumer of petroleum at this point….

    Tell them they can have everything up to Turkey (and we’ll look the other way). They solve their oil problem, we promise to buy from them so they have some REAL exports (besides mercury laced pacifiers), and increased capitalism (I know who on this blog’ll get ticked off at this one!!) WILL improve the standard of living and degree of freedom to the Chinese people. Better to deal with someone who has some incentives (financial) other than “I want my virgins… how many of ‘em can I take out with me”??!!!

    I suspect it’d never happen, AND dealing with another world “super-power” (especially China) brings a new set of problems with which to contend. It’s still a fun mental exercise.

    • 45caliber

      Leave China out of it. They scare me more than any other people on Earth.

      An instructor in the Army once pointed out that about 60% of all the men (now lesser) in the US was in the military or had military training. We were outnumbered about ten to one by simply the Chinese standing army!

      • Stevo

        Yes,I have always said that if ever a country would try to invade America, it would be China.To believe that it could’nt happen is niave.Whether it happens or not,somebody is gonna invade or attack someone else in this world.Wars and rumors of wars,until time ends.It is man’s way.God knew this when He made us.He doesn’t make mistakes,so there is a plan here that only God knows completely.However,the Holy Bible does give us exactly what we need to know,PLUS,the greatest gift ever offered to mankind.

        • 45caliber

          Exactly.

      • Claire

        45caliber–you are correct. The Chinese army has millions of soldiers-the last I heard was 5 million. And they are up to date on their weaponry, etc. One of the differences between China and the US is that the US government tells everything they know concerning our military might. We announce to the world every time we close a base, every time we cut back on military spending, etc. China keeps their mouths shut, they don’t say anything. China stole technology from us too. And they got by with it. China is shrewd, I do not trust them.

        • Bob

          Being taken over by China wouldn’t be bad. They could bring our jobs back. Let’s see 100 hours a week at 75 cents.

  • Melba Dagan

    It saddened me to read Crystal’s words that he would rather gamble with Israeli lives that with our own. If he had children and grandchildren in Israel, sitting in the middle of the bull’s eye, I don’t think he would be so callous with his words. Israel hit Iraq when no one else would, then they hit Syria when no one else would. Isn’t it time for the world, especially the US who is their closest ally, to step up and do something to stop this nuclear threat? Or maybe the UN could be something besides the ridiculous puppet show it has always been and get serious about stopping Iran. For the money we give the UN every year we could really do some good, not only for the US but also for the world.

    • 45caliber

      What he is saying is that no one else in the world WILL step up to stop this threat. And I do agree with him about the deaths. Why should we be the ones always trying to play world policeman and get our boys killed? Let someone else do it for a change – especially when they want to.

  • http://yeye52341@yahoo.com harry truman

    our real enemies are in the white house, obama, hillary, pelosi, biden, and on and on ! impeach the devils out!!!

  • Bill C

    This country is run by rank amateurs and career politicians who couldn’t care less about liberty or freedom. All of the military spending and foreign intervention and meddling (300 military bases in over 170 countries) is done in the name of defending American security and strategic interests throughout the world. We have such a dumbed down society only about one in ten Americans are capable of critical thought. Have any of you been to a college course in the last 20 years? I have taught at a major university as an adjunct and can speak from experience that the average college graduate today has the skill set and ability to think that was acquired in high school 40 years ago. What this means to the preservation of a civil society is that we lack the intelligence and the moral character to frame the existential questions properly, much less answer them. We have it within our ability to influence, even control the actions of despots and fanatics in the middle east, Europe, and our own hemisphere without shedding one drop of blood or firing one gun, but choose to follow less efficacious paths? Why? Because the subversion of our liberties, and the establishment of a iron fisted ruling class which is the objective throughout the world is only possible with the manufacture of continuous and serial crises that make the illiterate masses beg for more control and less freedom. The real enemy is not Iran…it is George Soros, and his henchmen!

    • 45caliber

      I have to agree with you about Soros. Have you got a solution?

      • JRC

        I lol at anyone who portrays Soros as the big devil, you have had too many brain washing sessions with Rush the drug addict Limbaugh. Envy of a man that made it from nothing to be the richest and most influential individual of all times is a petty thing to have.

        • eve07

          JRC if you do not believe in our Father, why are you here? We are all seekers of truth, and if you do not believe in God then what you are really saying is you do not know Truth. So, again why are you on this site?

        • 45caliber

          JRC:
          As far as I can tell, Rush’s listeners consist almost entirely of you liberals. I’ve never heard him on anything except for a comment or two someone copies and puts on TV. And I’m not sure if anyone I even know has.

        • Stevo

          Thats like envying Stalin.You socialists make me sick.You are not real men.

        • DaveH

          George Soros cares nothing about the average Liberal (or anybody else). He is just using you dupes to gain fortune and power.

          • 45caliber

            True. But they are ready to follow.

        • LocalYokel

          Perhaps his partnership in $2 billion US investment by bho in PetraBra drilling in 12,000 of water off the coast of Brazil after stopping all offshore drilling here will qualify Soros as guilty by association with another ripoff artist that stole it from your kids

    • Warrior

      Bingo – Bill C.

  • Zed

    Iran already has nuclear warheads in their possession which were acquired from Khazakstan in 1990 and this campaign by Likud fanatics to war with Iran as well as the occupation of Iraq & Afghanistan is not about strategic security, its about revenge. Zionism is the cause of this conflict and Vendetta is the motive behind the war with Moslems. The NWO attacked the US on 9-11 using Israeli agents acting as pawns for the Bilderberg group which is detailed by Henry Makow, Aaron Russo & Alex Jones and the Israeli people are being duped now. Now that the NWO has their endless war they will use it to justify expanding their world government at the expense of everyones freedom. Dont be duped by supporting the murderous, corrupt regime that occupies London, Jerusalem & Washington DC.

    • 45caliber

      Boy, I love your thinking! Say, they have a room for you at Bellevue. It is very nice and they really take care of you.

      • Maranatha! Mark

        I love when folks start blaming the Y’israelis for this mess and say how ‘warmongering’ they are! A country of 8 million, give or take 250k picks a fight with countries with a combined population of over 120 million and who hate their very existence! Some body must have been huffing a little too much gold paint or eating to many paint chips. Y’israel has had plenty of opportunities to go to war with Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Lebanon over the past 6 months, so I don’t think they are looking for a war, and one might even really go out on a branch and say they are looking for peace!

      • Bob

        When Israel attacked Lebanon in 2006 Hezbollah ran them out of the country kicking and screaming. Then they said that the US asked them to leave.

        • 45caliber

          Revisionist history is something you should ignore. It can get you into trouble.

          • Bob

            It’s true. After 2 days in the field the Jewish soldiers went on R&R.

          • 45caliber

            As I said, watch that revisionist history.

      • Bob

        I guess you know alot about Bellevue

  • http://letfreedomringnow.com American Miles

    The author had me until he said he would rather gamble with Israeli lives. Very BAD. For the rest, many are correct that we are the Big Satan in the eyes of Islam. But the other scriptures of the Holy Bible that should be read is the book of Daniel and Ezekiel 38 & 39. The prophet goes into great detail as to which nations will be participating. Persia, is modern day Iran. Meshech is modern day Moscow and Tubal is a town in Russia. It is clear these two armies, Iran and Russia will come against Israel. Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you. Obadiah 15 “For the day of the Lord upon all the nations is near; As you have done, it shall be done to you; Your reprisal shall return upon your own head”. Also read The Revelation 21 in which we are told of the “New Jerusalem”. Since Christ’s kingdom will be established in Jerusalem, the apple of God’s eye, He will not let it be destroyed by Iran, Russia or anybody else. But believers will not be here to watch them try. We must stand with Israel.

    • Maranatha! Mark

      I agree, that really was poorly thought out and executed.

    • Agent Orange

      It’s not “Tubal”, it’s Tobol on the Irtysh. Please check your geography before you start to quote Scripture.

  • David

    -how odd-

    ‘how odd’
    a thorny tale
    of horny thistle

    to life, it self
    so breathlessly
    resist full.

    the jhadists dream,
    their virgin missile,
    then grab their
    lil pistols; fistfuls…

    shooting their wad..
    suicide by god!,…said
    while shaking his head…
    how—very—odd.

    ~~~~~
    with love, live long and prosper
    how odd //davicho c. arguello// may 30 10 copyright

  • SUE B

    All of you miss the real point… the time to hit Iran has come and gone. On the 21st the russians loaded the nuke rods in the the reactor and now ANYONE who tries to take any part out will cause a nuke meltdown. You can thank Comrad Obama for that. We as well as Israel had all of the “necessary means” to have taken the reactor out, but didn’t.
    Who wants to be responsible for starting WWIII???
    Obama has promised all his Muslim buddys “Israel” and this will do it.
    The meeting in D.C is a set up for Netanyhu. To those who think we can not be removed read Gen.12:3 God is a Holy God and can not bless or look at sin.

    • JRC

      So, we can thank comrade Obama for that eh? Pray tell me, why did your idol Bush do nothing during a time when there easy could be something done and the international involvement was minimal?
      Yes you are right, it is to late, but NOT because a possible melt down (very unlikely according to all experts) but due to the fact that by contract Russia is defending the reactor. And they do so with the most advanced surface to air missile system in the world. An attack on the reactor would be a direct attack on Russia, something not even Israel will risk.

      • Maranatha! Mark

        Both Bush and Obama dropped the ball! Obama did allow the reactor to be fueled and has been really doing nothing to stop the Iranian nuclear program. Bush really was a lame duck the last half of his presidency, and with democratic congress looking for anything to oppose and condemn him, he really couldn’t do much. But Bush was a progressive lite, where as Obama is a progressive Extra! Obama is so eager to apease the Muslims and the rest of the world, that he won’t do anything that might bring more negative feedback from the world. Obama has no real concern about Y’israel’s safety or preservation, so he isn’t that concern with them. And if Y’israel starts a big hairy war in the Middle East and drives the petroleum prices to over $400 a barrel, then Obama can push his “Green Energies” policies… if the economy survives, which it won’t.

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Politics has already turned Obama into a lame duck.

      • 45caliber

        JRC: “And they do so with the most advanced surface to air missile system in the world.”

        LOL! Boy, you can really sling the s$&) today! Russia’s stuff is more like first generation to our third – except both countries are far beyond that now. You read too much stuff from KOS and refuse to pay any attention to our military. Yes, our stuff could use an upgrade now – but Russia’s stuff was old when the USSR went down and they haven’t done anything with it since but let it rust.

        • Bob

          You are so uninformed.

          • 45caliber

            I may be but I’m better informed than you are!

        • Lubo

          45…..that’s a fact! Russia is WAY behind!

          • LocalYokel

            What do you mean? Their mafia is more effective than ours!!

      • Stevo

        JRC and the boys that lean left would have whined and moaned if President Bush would have attacked Iran during his administration.We would be seeing Akmadinijad on Oprah by now,with Obama giving him a manly hug and kiss on TV.

      • LocalYokel

        Why not? Schwartzkopf halted the complete annihilation of Iraq’s Republican guard when operators in their tanks were overheard speaking fluent Russian.

    • LocalYokel

      What do you think would happen if Iran was warned to pull the rods and get them in a cooling tank NOW?

    • Agent Orange

      Isn’t it possible to hit the cooling towers and/or condensers and force a shutdown without spreading radiation? I’m sure you could do that with laser-guided missiles.

  • http://privatehomeinspection.com Martin

    One nice thing about ‘Odd-mandinejhad’ is that he says
    what he’ll do. No beating around the bush for him. How-
    ever, the possibility remains that all Iranians do not
    come around to his way of thinking. Extreme sanctions in
    the form of well placed missiles taking out all Iranian
    oil delivery systems should upset the cashflow to his re-
    gime. That, coupled with American (we’ll likely need to do
    it solo) forces redeploying within Iraq and Afghanistan to
    create a menacing presence on both his borders may change
    the situation at a minimum cost of lives. If his “elite”
    guards are mobilized out of the cities, perhaps the throngs
    of protestors on the streets of Iran last year will be able
    to make a substantial move. This could be a total flop, but, if
    it works, we avoid having to go nuclear. I figure that an Iran
    with near zero cash flow and a fired up population will have much
    less capacity to support terrorism. Who knows, it could mean a
    return to $40.00 a barrel oil by 2012.

    • 45caliber

      Like many here, you are putting yourself in the place of the people there and determining what they would do based on what you would do. Wrong! They are Muslims who worship Allah in Islam. That isn’t just a religion to them like Christianity is here to many; it is a way of life that governs even their government and daily choices of what to eat. Some would certainly make an effort to take him out – but only to take over themselves. None of the leaders on any front there care about the people or what they would like to do.

  • jopa

    This is really scary having Iran with nuclear capabilities,we should in true Repuplican fashion attack Yemen right now.

  • Bob Hauser

    Who is this Ben Crystal (any relation to Billy?) character and what is his problem? His attempts at glib humor are DOA and he appears to be upset that the Iranians would have the audacity to ring their nuke plant with the latest ack-ack silos rather than leave them completely undefended constituting an engraved invite to Israel to, at their leisure, stage an air assault against the facility just like they did to Syria not that far back and wipe the place out. No, I guess according to Crystal, they should make the lighting off ceremony the equivalent of a K-mart Founders’ Day gala come-one-come-all event out of it and invite Israel as guest-of-honor…..you know, Israel, the good people who burned rubber all over the streets racing to the soviets with the U.S. Navy code secrets that their poster child of “persecution”, Jonathan Pollard, purloined from the Pentagon vaults.
    And indeed, who is this illustrious phantom who Ben Crystal claims couldn’t make it through the first step of Alanon and grinningly drools over vintage celluloids of Jerry Lewis hanging upside down with his tongue hanging out?….sounds like somebody the voters of this country would be comatose enough to stuff into the White house.

    • Bob

      Bob H Don’t forget the Rosenbergs. Both great Americans

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    Lots of talk-talk and no action. What are the consequences for our continued inaction boys and girls. This runt in Iran, together with their government, are playing the Western world like a violin. Send a few well-placed daisy cutters (conventional weapons)and that’s the solution. It won’t happen with our present “chief”. Whew,he just doesn’t have the experience or common sense needed for a true leader.And a last thought for the boys and girls: What are the consequences if they get the bomb? Sleep well.

    • 45caliber

      I can sleep very well. I don’t live in a major city or even near enough to one to be in danger.

      It’s the people who live in Washington,DC, New York City, Houston, Dallas/Ft.Worth, Los Angeles, and probably San Francisco that are in danger.

    • 45caliber

      The more I see of politicians like Oblama with no military service at all, the more I’m in favor of Heinlein’s idea that only military experiences people can vote or serve in office.

      • Wlmitch1

        I totally disagree. I was born with health issues, and was 4F before I was even old enough to serve in the Military, and I neither vote for any of those Leftists nor believe any of their propaganda. All my adult life, I have voted for only the most Conservative candidates in the Republican Primary Elections, and have repeatedly been forced to vote for RINOs and Republicrats in the General Elections to defeat the “Democrats.” I saw through Barack Obama well before the 2008 General Election. I voted for Romney in the Michigan Primary Election after Sam Brownback withdrew. I only voted for the RINO John McCain as a vote against Barack Obama. Ronald Reagan was the first President I voted for. I was 20 at the time. I voted for him both in 1980 and 1984. Reagan was the LAST great President.

      • eddie47d

        I bet the German people 70 years ago wished there were fewer people in the military. There have been too many military dictatorships in the world and few governed with intelligence.

    • Bob

      All of you people that want war with Iran only repeat what you hear on Fox News. Not an independent thought among you.

  • Walter

    The comment here by Patricia Smith was the first one that told the truth. Following her were comments by Gregory Zorn, Charley 41, Artie, Phil Klein, Harry Truman, Barney, James, Bill C and Zed, all of which also were truthful. 45 Caliber is obviously either brain dead, illiterate, bloodthirsty, jewish, naive, a neo-con fascist, or all of the above. I would like to make a couple of corrections however. Israel actually has between 300 and 600 nuclear weapons according to the former head of the Israeli nuclear weapons program who was imprisoned in Israel after going public with that information. The very idea that secular Iran would launch a nuclear weapon, if they had one, at Israel, knowing that Israel would in turn incinerate every Muslim country in the area is so absurd as to be laughable. Second, Iran has not attacked anyone in over 300 years. We have attacked and invaded 56 nations since the end of WWII. Third, Ahmadinijad never said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map as has been widely reported by the fake-jew zionist press here and abroad. He said he looked forward to the destruction of the present communist government in Israel which can only exist and continue murdering innocent palestinian Christians and Muslims because we give these murderers 5 billion dollars a year. I concur. Fourth, Soetoro/Obama is not the enemy. He is merely the latest puppet of the zionist international bankers to occupy the White House. He knows that if he deviates from the plan for one-world government, he will get the John Kennedy treatment. Lastly, America is an occupied nation. Our president, congress, and the supreme court are all merely figureheads. The real power brokers are behind the scenes, unknown to all but a few. Our military is being used to accomplish the goals of this secret combination. We have become a nation of mass murderers, even stooping so low as to refer to our murders of millions of innocent civilians in foreign countries as patriotism. We are collectively the sickest nation in history. We are long overdue for a revolution.

    • Bob

      Well said Walter We are so bloodthirsty We even make Attila the Hun look like Soupy Sales.

    • 45caliber

      Walter: “45 Caliber is obviously either brain dead, illiterate, bloodthirsty, jewish, naive, a neo-con fascist, or all of the above.”

      Thanks for the compliments. However, all my ancestors are either German or American Indian. And I haven’t been naive since I was very small. That’s the main difference between liberals and conservatives. I’m not sure what a neo-con fascist is and really don’t care. I’m certainly not illiterate. Bloodthirsty? Maybe. It depends upon your viewpoint. I’m certainly not against killing those who tell me that they intend to kill me as soon as they can get the chance and the equipment. Unlike the liberals who would rather live in slavery than risk death, I’d rather die that be a slave. I’m very much against targetting women and children as many of them like to do. Brain dead? I can understand why you would say that since I disagree with you. According to the liberals they have all the thinkers. I’ve never really understood why you all think that way considering that you only quote your party’s mantra all the time and never come up with any original thought at all. I much prefer to think for myself.

      I do agree that there are a few people who tend to control what the government does. But I do disagree as to who those people might like to be. Oblama? I think most of us would agree that he is only a puppet – and he likes it that way.

    • 45caliber

      We’ve killing millions of innocent civilians in other countries? Wow! I didn’t know we were so good!

      Actually, you should check on people like Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler. They seemed to do a better job of that than anyone – including us.

      I think your figures are all from DailyKos or Huffington or some other liberal quotes. They could stand to be revised if anyone would bother to look up the real figures. But I don’t have that time to waste.

    • LocalYokel

      Do you mean like the on against the greatest army in the world at the time of the Battle of New Orleans? WE were a mix of slaves, slave owners, American Indians, Indian Haters (Jackson later ordered the “trail of tears” and the consfication of gold from The federal Bank) Cross Breeds, and pirates. Where will you stand today, friend?
      Speak up!! Dont look for your leader.

  • Bob Hauser

    If anyone belongs back in an asylum it is this pseudo-journalist, Crystal….in the first place, just what in the Cornbread Hell does he mean by the term, “Islamofascist?….or does he even have a clue himself? Fascism as a social construct originated with the Fascisti of Italy in March of 1919 and essentially conceived of no more than a binding of the working people of Italy together under the ideal of national unity as opposed to constant discord and corruption within the rank and file of the trade unions. By worldwide consensus of the time, it truly worked miracles in Italy and the bolschevik communists of the day lost their forum to the tune of about two liters of castor bean oil generously administered with due ceremony to a rather large number of very corrupt Italian bureaucrats that were lavishly and extravagantly aggrandizing themselves at the working people’s expense back then…..something that I would strongly advocate for this supposedly “freedom loving” country. So if Iran is in fact a fascist regime, that’s to their credit and who are we and most definitely, just who in the hell is israel to have or assume any say in Iran’s internal affairs?

    • 45caliber

      Bob:
      I admire you. I can’t remember anyone who tried to glorify fascism like you just did.

    • Stevo

      Sounds like educated drivel.If my horse could talk out of his ass, this is what it would sound like!

      • Bob

        Stevo can you add any substance to the discussion instead of just childish namecalling.

        • Stevo

          What conversation? it’s the same old crap.Liberals coming in on a discussion meant for conservatives.Go to one of your Sorros funded websites if you don’t want to be called names.There are hawks and there are doves,so be it,but this liberal socialistic jibberish is what’s taking this country down.We are gonna do something about it in November,so take heart.

        • Craig

          If he added substance you and all the other libtards would not be able to comprehend it.

    • LocalYokel

      Honorable men once chose weapons when challenged. Where will you stand when Israel chooses nukes?

  • john king

    I can’t stand most Christians because of their hypocrisy. In the Bible Jesus said “Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called children of God.” This whole argument about a nuclear Iran (and it is their right as signatories of the Nuclear non proliferation Treaty to peacefully use nuclear energy for power, medical isotopes etc. Israel has refused to sign this treaty because it is in possession of 200-300 nuclear weapons. Mordechai Vanunu spent 18 years in solitary for telling the world this. Since Russia is a close ally of Iran and China is also friendly, a TERRORISTIC US or Israeli attack on Iran may be the start of WWIII, as predicted by top Mason Albert Pike in the mid 18th century http://www.rense.com/general56/amamak.htm. If this happens I hope the bombs rain down on hypocrite Christians. If you want war, who is your God? Satan, I guess

    • eve07

      Wow you really are ignorant. You do not have the Spirit of Truth do you? Your words show your lack of knowledge. I’ll pray for you.

      • http://eddie47d eddie47d

        If you truly love Christ you wouldn’t be praying for war.

        • 45caliber

          Who said she was praying for war? She is praying for HIM. And I’m sure you could use the prayers too.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            We could all use many prayers.

          • Bob

            45 You should visit the witchdoctor.

          • 45caliber

            Sorry, I only believe in Christ, not voodoo.

    • Wlmitch1

      AHMADINEJAD would gleefully say, “Ahhhhh, behold that useful idiot American John King! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! When we no longer need khafurs like him, their heads shall come off! Death to Israel! Death to the West! Death to America! Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar!!”

      That is what we are dealing with! My Croat ancestors were forced to beat back the Islamic Ottoman Turks, who had the same mentality as Ahmadinejad, as those Turks were overrunning the Balkans in hopes of invading, conquering, and Islamicizing Europe. They had already conquered and brutally Islamicized the Middle East and Near East, formerly Eastern Christendom.

      I hope it does not come down to war, but those with wisdom push for peace, but prepare for war. We must stand up to dictators and despots when necessary. That is how Reagan, Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II brought down the Soviet Union without firing a single shot! Muslim regimes murdered 260 million people in 1400 years’ time. Communist regimes murdered 160 million people all over the world in 80 years’ time. The Nazis murdered over 12 million people, including 6 million Jews, in 12 years’ time. Christians and Jews were the prime targets of nearly all of these diabolical atrocities! So if you want to be a hateful Christophobic, anti-Semitic BIGOT, just think about THAT!

    • Stevo

      What a bunch of crap!The real men left the democrat party a long time ago,and were replaced with metrosexual beings that don’t know right from wrong.Good from evil.Better stay out of the wind whistle britches.

    • LocalYokel

      Don’t sweat it John—–until the sixth trumpet sounds.

  • jopa

    Melba Dagan: when you said “Israel hit Iraq when nobody else would,they hit Syria when nobody else would” perhaps they should quit hitting people if they are sittng in a bullseye.We should quit arming Israel when they cannot resist the urge to attack there neighbors and then they come crying to the US and that makes us the bad guy.

  • Marilyn

    Israel is agood idea as long as we have our own anti-nuclear weapons pointed at Iran so that should they start launching nuclear missles we can blow them off the face of the earth because and I quote “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    • Bob

      Marilyn Are you wearing lipstick or is that blood dripping from your mouth?

      • 45caliber

        Are you trying to say that if Iran starts launching nukes we should simply sit by and wring our hands? That seems to be the liberal way of dealing with any war.

        • Bob

          45 They haven’t started a war in hundreds of years. The US has started dozens in that time. If they did attack America I would be in agreement but it’s not going to happen.

          • 45caliber

            I hope you are right – but I don’t believe you are.

          • LocalYokel

            History has not recorded any recent account of Israel waining for anyone to make a full scale attack across their border when their intel indicates premptive action allows great advantage. Why do you think Egypt is intimidated or the Pueblo incident never got the attention it deserved?

  • http://N/A Pied_Piper

    I’m a firm believer that Israel and the Israeli people are God’s chosen people and as a nation will never be defeated again by anyone in this world . Why do you think the Egypt Israeli war only lasted 6days ? …Divine Intervention ! Israel sure , had an army on the battlefield but I’ve read as well of Egyptian soldiers in that battle claiming to see a spiritual side of things that most of us are never fortunate enough to see , ….Angels !
    We I believe , are still a unified nation only because we still support and call Israel a friend , that friendship has never been more strained than now by the current IDIOT that occupies the oval office ,…if this country ever turns its back on Israel , …we will be doomed as a nation ,…Period !
    Sometime during our lifetime we will witness the arrogance or should I say stupidity by some larger nation to try to invade or conquer this country and we will witness the power of God reduce these idiots to dust . Iran may be this nation to attempt to achieve this , …that will be their downfall or any nations , in my opinion ! There will be wars and rumors of wars , but mankind will not destroy this world , …only the Living God , and only on his terms !

    • Bob

      Israel won the 6 day war because they pulled a sneak attack. That was after they killed dozens of US sailors on the USS Liberty. The Liberty was a spy ship that was monitoring the ME. Without the Liberty around they were able to pull it off with the help of LBJ because Kennedy wouldn’t have allowed it if he were president.

      • 45caliber

        Riiiiiiiiiiight.

        • LocalYokel

          Maybe he could have been around if he hadn’t called off air support for the Bay of Pigs invasion.

      • Al Sieber

        Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty and tried to send it to the bottom of the sea, all anyone has to do is goggle it. but most people don’t want to know, they’d rather believe the lie, it’s easier.

        • Agent Orange

          Al, have you ever tried to positively identify a ship while flying at Mach 2? The Liberty incident was a friendly-fire accident, just a stupid mistake by the Israeli pilots cause they couldn’t see whose ship it was!

          • Al Sieber

            Bull$hit Agent, friendly fire for over 3 hours, and flying the American flag.

          • Bob

            You should change your name to Israel Agent Orange.

          • Al Sieber

            Agent O, you sound like a Mossad Agent.

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      Piper; The Palestinians need to broker a homeland with Israel and the “problem” with Israel will be a thing of the past. Both countries have dragged the world into their stubborness for too long. A new set of talks are coming up involving the US but it could be another dead end. That would hardly have a major impact on Obama because all other Presidents have failed. The treaty is really up to the two countries involved and we can only negotiate for them.

      • LocalYokel

        You best worry about what Hillary is trying to negotiate for the US since she would have you face Israel’s common enemy over here unarmed Or do you still trust the collapsing check and balance of your own government or claim any friends in their conflict like the obvious ones they have in the white house?

  • Rob from VA

    Should Israel attack Iran’s production sites, Iran will block the channel through which travels 40% or more of the world’s oil.This will put the entire world into a deep recession (depression). After reading Stratfor’s article this week (www.stratfor.com), it appears we, the US, need to take out all of Iran’s military that can possibly drop mines into the Strait of Hormuz. Then, and only then, can Israel take out their nuclear production. Otherwise we must be content to live without the oil we have so greatly become dependent upon!

    Of course, the flip side is doing nothing. As many have said, a dirty bomb in a major city, making it uninhabitable, will also ruin our economy along with shedding innocent US blood. It sounds like we have no good options! I personally would rather not bring the war to our homeland!

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. I’d MUCH prefer to have any wars in someone else’s country even though I would feel sorry for the people there. In fact, I’d much prefer if there was no such thing as war at all! But as long as there are men who want what someone else has, we shall have war.

      • Bob

        45 How would you feel if your kids were hit by white phosphorous bombs? Do you think you love your kids more than muslims do?

        • 45caliber

          I wouldn’t want them hit. (I sat through one, one time in Nam. It wasn’t funny.) But … I’d much rather it be them than mine. And I’d much rather it be there than here. I’m in favor of peace – but not at the risk of slavery.

          • WTF

            No, I definitely don’t think the Muslims love their children as much as I love my child. I would never sacrifice my child as a suicide bomber.

        • Agent Orange

          As for me, why would I give a damn for muslim savages?

          • WTF

            Totally agree!

        • Al Sieber

          And people call themselves Christians, a Christian follows the teaching of Jesus and his scriptures, Jesus didn’t teach hate against his fellow man, so just “nuke” Iran, and if you disagree you’re a Liberal? that’s a dumb ass opinion.

          • Claire

            Al Sieber—I agree with your comment.

          • Agent Orange

            That’s the reason I renounced Christianity, cause all you red-letter types are preaching that we should love our ENEMIES (even savages like the afghans and the pakis) as much as OUR OWN PEOPLE! Well, that’s BULL and y’all know it, if we started thinking that way we would’ve been conquered many times by now and would be typing in Japanese (or even worse, ARABIC)! Red-letter “Christians” like you are ENEMIES of our nation and of EVERY Western nation, and IF that’s what Christianity is all about, then I hope other people will start renouncing this rubbish too!

          • Al Sieber

            Agent, I’m not a red letter Christian, screw with me and you have trouble, I mean that Iran has done nothing to us.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          Nits make lice. kill them now so our children won’t have to in the future.

  • SIDNEY H KOSANN

    I WAS AN OFFICER IN WW2, IN THE INVASION. STATIONED IN ENGLAND
    BEFORE. WHEN IT LOOKED LIKE THE BRITISH WOLD BE DEMOLISHED THEY
    FAUGHT ON AGAINST ALL ODDS.
    THE HEBREWS ARE AROUND FOR 5000 YEARS, THE GREEK EMPIRE IS GONE, THE ROMAN EMPIRE IS GONE THE PHOENICIANS ARE GONE. ANYONE WHO BELIEVES THE ISRAELIS WILL BE DEMOLISHED WITHOUT A FIGHT TO THE DEATH IS A FOOL,
    THEY DID NOT SURVIVE ALL THIS TIME, IN SPITE OF HITLER AND OTHER ENEMIES WHO TRIED TO DESTROY THEM OVER THE CENTURIES. THEY ARE HERE TO
    STAY AS LONG AS THE WORLD SURVIVES. IF THEY ELIMINATE THE IRANIANS AND WW 111 IS STARTED, SO BE IT. THE BLAME IS ON OBAMA, NOT ON THE ISRAELIS. THEY CANNOT BE FRIGHTENED INTO DOING NOTHING. SURVIVAL IS THEIR ONLY OPTION.
    OPTION.

    • 45caliber

      I agree. When someone tells them he is going to kill them, they believe it. When someone shoots missiles at you almost daily, shoots rifles when possible at you, likes to run around with bombs strapped around their middles, etc. you can really concentrate on survival and defending yourself. It’s too bad that the liberals just can’t understand that.

      There are several on here already who has stated something along the lines of “they really don’t intend to do that – regardless of what they say.” And if they get their wish and nothing is done, sooner or later the Israelis would be wiped out. And then they would be saying, “Oh, well, I’m sure the Israelis did something to anger them, just like we do.”

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      Israel is worth saving but what you are saying is hardly Obama’s fault.

    • Bob

      American blood and money saved the Brits.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Bobby: don’t forget the RAF.

  • Johnny Machine

    The US has such horrendous problems of its own to overcome that it shouldn’t be fighting and sacrificing blood and treasure for a selfish little country whose ethnocentric leaders wouldn’t give you the sweat off their balls if you were dying of thirst. If anything American taxpayers should demand a stop to the yearly billions of dollars given to this un-greatfull parasite. This would go along way towards bringing peace to the region and could be put to better use helping the long suffering US taxpayer. Most of those who are agitating for war are not at all interested in Americas welfare. When you look beneath their slick machinations its clear that they are only concerned with shedding the blood of others in their place.

    • SIDNEY H KOSANN

      YOU SOUND LIKE A BLATHERING ANTI SEMETIC FOOL. THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN
      THE WORLD IS ISRAEL. EVERY ONE ELSE IS A POTENTIAL ENEMY. WE THE U.S.
      SAVED THE WORLD IN 2 WORLD WARS. WE MADE NO FRIENDS IN EITHER. THE
      FRENCH HAVE PROVED THEIR HATRED. AND YOU HAVE PREOVED YOURS.

      • Agent Orange

        I think you were trying to say “the only democracy in the middle east”.

      • Al Sieber

        Israel isn’t a democracy, it’s a fascist Theocracy, I know because I’ve been there. theres 2 Israels, one they want you to see, and one they hope you don’t see.

        • Al Sieber

          And we’re a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

          • Agent Orange

            Same difference!

    • 45caliber

      Exactly which country are you referring too? I can think of several that fits your description. Russia. China. England. France, Germany for that matter. Italy. Japan. Palestine. Iraq. Iran. Lebonan. Even Israel.

  • John

    The biggest obstacle to Israel in not taking out Iran is Obamacrappapolitics and his love of his muslim brothers. Israel will act without America and win with God on their side and in His timing. Israel is the apple of God’s eye and promises they will stand forever.

    • Bob

      All you that want Israel to attack Iran, go to Israel and sign up. We won’t miss you.

  • Annie Ladysmith

    You are an obvious Judeo-fascist. This is exactly the bottom of the barrel low-brow thinking that took the US army into an ILLEGAL war in Iraq (was Israhell’s greatest threat, now it’s Iran). You are a pig, I hope what you wish for Iran (a conservative and peaceful people) falls hard on the heads of your kith and kin. You evil, Satanic, Askenazi ZERO!
    For the rest of you idiots that desire to “take out” Iran, go to the internet and see some of the horrific pictures of the dead, the tortured, the raped, the little children blown into parts or burned to skeletons by white phosphorus. If this is where you want to go I guarantee America will be taken to a worst place, and the recompense will be immediate.

    Suffer the little children to come onto me and forbid them not for such is the Kingdom of Heaven. You snyagogue of Satan pig, shut your big fat Israhell mouth, haven’t we caused enough suffering to innocent people because of wizards like you. Go to Hell, but the rest of us have a chance of the glorious salvation, and you will try your damnist to take that away also. Serpent SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

    • 45caliber

      What part of “illegal war with Iraq” are you talking about? I may be wrong but I certainly THINK I remember Congress voting to go in. That included many of the Democrats. Did we go in with a justified reason? We certainly thought so at the time. I don’t recall any laws anywhere in the world that says it is illgal to wage war without meeting certain criteria but again I may be wrong. I don’t know all the laws of the world. Could you enlighten me?

      • Bob

        Congress never declared war against Iraq. They left it up tp Little Georgie the draft dodger.

        • Da Norseman

          I thought it was Little Willie!

          • Da Norseman

            Who dodged the draft and went to Oxford to demonstrate and rant anti-American slurs.

      • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

        Dear 45Caliber:

        Are you sure that you have calibrated your name correctly? You are coming across more like a 22short (blank) from a dishonest arms maker.

        Please check your calibration a bit more carefully.

    • Da Norseman

      Well, Annie, you are the exact epitome of someone exposing their antisemitism, spitting out that venom full of hate and spite through prejudiced remarks and sounding like a Holocaust denier. It goes to show that you are allied with the likes of Chavez and Ahmadinejad and sympathetic with international terror groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, the PLO and Al Qaeda.

      Had you been around during World War II, you would be sympathetic with the Axis Powers, Hitler and the Nazis because, in your mind and everyone like you, they didn’t start that “illegal” war – we did! Japan didn’t attack Pearl Harbor on its own because we provoked them to! We were killing all those innocent babies during those bombing raids over German cities and killing all those innocent babies during the island hopping campaigns in the Pacific because we waged an “illegal” war. The U.S., Britain and their allies “illegally invaded” the Normandy beachheads and killing innocent babies the Nazis were “defending”. Yup! That would be your kind to think that way.

      I can picture you waving that red flag with the black swastika on it and hear you singing the Nazi anthem “Horst Wessel Lied” while having your right hand in the air and doing the “Sieg Heil” salute along with the other cunts and never miss a Hitler rally. You would become a whore with members of the Schutzstaffel (SS) and the Sturmabteilung (SA) who would take turns on you because you would be a proud Aryan willing to conceive and preserve that “pure” blood Hitler and the Nazis wanted.

      “Sieg Hell” to you!!!

    • Stevo

      I suppose you think we should let them(Iran) launch a nuclear weapon first and then just see what happens.FREAKING amazing!

  • http://eddie47d eddie47d

    The German government also voted on invading acouple of countries but that hardly made those invasions legal.The world needs to stop falling for manipulating governments.

  • Roger Housend

    If they would just make it an international law that all nuclear plants have to be fueled by thorium, no country could produce weapons grade material. But thats too easy since just in the U.S. alone has over a thousand year supply. Thorium makes nuclear power too clean and cheap for the politicians to continue enslaving us. Not to mention the oil giants. It’s an insane world. Global warming scam makes money, global cooling wont’s make them a dime. Were suckers to let them get away with it.

  • Jerry

    I’m confused.
    The atheists are saying that there’s nothing to the Jewish prophecies, then rant about the apocalypse that will soon follow if the religious nuts get their way .. which sort of fulfills prophecy.
    Worse yet, they claim that, if we do something about Iran, then the world will go to war.
    Yes, folks. The atheists are making prophecies these days. No kidding. And look how evangelically hysterical they become when someone evokes their mystical omniscience …. the sky is falling!!!
    I’m no expert on secular mysticism, but, uh, no …. The world won’t go to war these days for anything. Too expensive. That’s why they always leave it to us .. unless we wussy out, or go broke, or pretend we’re too busy with our own social progress .. all three of which describe the current administration.
    But, hey, let’s not that stand in the way of a good atheist prophecy.

    Bottom line: I wished I could write like Ben Crystal. His verbal imagery is absolutely hilarious … and humor is always based on some cruel truth about the human condition. He’s spot on with this one.

  • Wlmitch1

    Clean out all the America-hating Marxists in the Government in November and beyond! Stop the dismantling of our Liberty through this PHONY, Leftist Hope and Change!!

    To obtain REAL HOPE AND CHANGE, we grass-roots Constitutional Conservatives, Tea Party Activists, and other true American Patriots of ALL races must UNITE! WE HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND!! Get registered as Republicans in your State if it is not too late. Educate yourselves on where each candidate stands on the issues. Vote for ONLY grass-roots Constitutional Conservatives and Tea Party candidates in the Republican Primary elections. VOTE OUT the RINOs, Country-clubbers, and Republicrats – THIS MEANS VOTE THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES OUT – in the Primaries and take our Party back! Then vote for these Republicans in November and take our COUNTRY back! Investigations, likely impeachment, and possible arrest, of the current administration, and others, will surely follow!! Do the same in 2012 AND elect a REAL American Patriot for President. Only then can we fully restore this great Nation to a Constitutional Republic with a Government OF the People, BY the People, and FOR the People! YES WE CAN!

    The dates on which the 2010 Primary Elections are being held are listed by State and Territory at http://www.fvap.gov/resources/media/vaghandout3.pdf . You will need the latest version of Adobe Reader installed on your PC to view this .pdf file. Guam will be holding its Primary Elections on Saturday September 4, 2010. The Virgin Islands will be holding their Primary Elections on Saturday September 11, 2010. Delaware, the District of Columbia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Rhode Island, and Wisconsin will be holding their Primary Elections on Tuesday September 14, 2010.

    GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

    • Stevo

      If anything,this Obama administration and the zealots that follow have tried to make the word “American Patriot”a most terrible thing to be.To someone that doesn’t hold to our Constitution,then maybe I can see why they have done this.What I would like to know is,how in the hell did these communist sympathizers get so much power in so short of time?I am with you and the Tea Party 100 percent!It feels good to have others to stand with in this great nation.The left tries so hard to make socialism into this great nirvanna,but we know what it really is.A thief that steals from the hard working taxpayer,and gives to the lazy bureacrat,that cares for no one but themselves.

      • Wlmitch1

        In the 1950s, Socialists in many U.S. cities began disbanding their local chapters and infiltrating the Democratic Party. They slowly took it over, while at the same time, they began to infiltrate and take over the network news media, the entertainment industry, and public education. Their goal was to move America incrementally further and further leftward in preparation for a total takeover in the year 2000.

        In the 1950s, they were doing this covertly. My mother babysat for a Socialist couple, while she was in college, at that time. After constant pressure, my mother finally agreed to attend one of their Socialist meetings. The man solemnly told her that they were disbanding the Socialist Party in Ann Arbor and other cities because it would take 125 years for the American People to knowingly accept Socialism. He then told my mother their plans which I described above. In the 1960s, they riled up young people on college campuses, and in the streets, which caused riots. The moral decline began around that time. I have seen this coming for years. When I warned people about it, they said I was a crazy conspiracy theorist.

        When the 1960s Generation counterculture took over public education in the late 1970s, they introduced the “Whole Language” Concept of teaching children how to read and write. They phased out the Phonics System which had served schoolchildren so well for centuries. The result is that most young people today lack the literacy skills that older people have. The poor spelling and punctuation in many comments on these blogs are a testament to what the “Whole Language” Concept has wrought. Poor literacy skills spill over into Math, History, and Science as well. The students have difficulty reading the assignments in the textbooks. This was NO accident. Add some revisionist history to the mix, along with a mainstream news media machine, which spouts left-wing propaganda and disguises it as news, and you have a generation or two of dumbed-down, indoctrinated citizens who lack critical thinking skills. This too was deliberate.

        Add in an entertainment industry which portrays fathers as bumbling idiots, businesspeople as evil, religion and morality as intolerance and bigotry; promiscuity, homosexuality, and abortion as freedom; lies as the truth, and the truth as lies, and you have a recipe for social decay. All Marxist ideologies aim to destroy the existing society and culture by any means necessary, to implement their poisonous Marxist agenda.

        This is how the radical Left took over our Nation. The Year 2000 was their goal. That is why they hate George W. Bush with such venom. Bush WAS a Republicrat and a mediocre President who did some foolish things, but he WAS able to keep us safe after 9/11 and delay the Marxist takeover of America by 8 years.

    • GHEORGHE 4 EVER

      I DON’T KNOW WHO IS WORSE; THE ‘RELIGIOFASCISTS’ON THE RIGHT LIKE YOU, OR THE ‘DEMOPUBLICANS’ ON THE LEFT LIKE THE CURRENT CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT.
      THE HELL WITH ‘EQUALITY’ IF IT CONCERNS QUEERS, THE HELL WITH FAIRNESS OR EQUALITY WHEN IT COMES TO TAXATION, THE HELL WITH GOVERNMENT UNLESS IT AGREES WITH WHATEVER WARPED THEORY OF GOVERNMENT YOU SUBSCRIBE TO AT THE MOMENT.
      WHY BOTHER WITH THE CONSTITUTION IF YOU ONLY WANT THE PARTS THAT YOU AGREE WITH?

  • Da Norseman

    One could compare Iran’s regime as another Nazi Germany, especially with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. Since the former was born in 1956 eleven years after the latter’s death, one might be led to believe that Ahmadinejad’s past life was that of the infamous Nazi dictator. Those weekly tabloids we see at the checkout lines at the grocery stores would be known to write articles like that in subsequent pages behind their main interests of those ever continuing and boring sagas of the Brad, Jen and Angelina affairs that have been dominating the front pages for years (but who cares about that?).

    Ahmadinejad, like Hitler, is antisemitic as we all know, but, unlike Hitler, is a puppet of the clerical mullahs of the Supreme Ayatollah. Israel, which has been in existence since 1947, has taken so much crap from its neighbors for so long that the Israeli armed forces are the world’s best trained and the best equipped for combat. Military service is compulsory for physically fit men and women (Jews, Druze and Circassians) between the ages of 17 and 49, and their training programs are far more vigorous than anywhere else as if it were the real thing.

    Secrecy and stealth are the key elements for the Israeli armed forces, so limited media access is strictly enforced to prevent leaks that would tip off hostile sources by giving them a “heads-up”. Senior Israeli military leaders find it at their best interest to keep their adversaries guessing and at a disadvantage, which is why nosy journalists are kept out. If Israeli forces do make an attack on any of their adversaries – Iran included – it would be the element of surprise by catching the enemy with their pants down.

    Sadly, Israel would be condemned by the Obama Administration, the United Nations and rogue leaders such as Hugo Chavez, Fidel and Raul Castro and Ahmadinejad himself for inciting an illegal war and committing human rights violations. The bright side, however, is that such a move to condemn Israel in a public point of view would be highly unpopular, since the UN, as an organization, is practically run by these rogue antisemitic leaders and political organizations sponsoring international terrorism. The UN has been nicknamed “The Club for Thugs” since it is in alliance with the PLO, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, the leaderships of Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela.

    When they should talk about human rights violations, what about the UN on its own human rights violations? I largely condemn the UN on its human rights policies, which isn’t rosy at all. That is one of the main reasons I would like to see a complete U.S. withdrawal from that trashy global organization and its headquarters off U.S. soil. Better yet, I’d like to see that organization dissolved along with NATO and other global organizations.

    Thankfully, the United States is not a member of the International Tribunal at The Hague, which has made so many controversial judgments on human rights issues that puts adversaries at an advantage (international judges are very sympathetic toward rogue leaders) over the U.S. and her allies.

  • http://eddie47d eddie47d

    Ben Crystal;France gets 80% of it’s energy from Nuclear power.I think they would know what they are talking about on this issue. I also believe most of the world has moved beyond Germany attacking France again BenMiester. We also don’t have to worry about being bogged down in a Mesopotamian quagmire for your buddy George did that to us alredy. When are you all going to sign up for Ben’s Crusade to invade Iran? Ben of coarse wants to make sure Israel gets goaded into firing the 1st shot. The only thing weak kneed is Ben’s saber rattling for war. Obama may be on vacation but Ben is out to lunch.

    • Jerry

      eddie …
      The Libs and oil cartels killed nuke powerplants in America while France pushed ahead to make safe reactors. The French make money off of safe nuke reactors.
      The one little problem is that ‘safe’ is defined by by-product. When you refine something far enough, then the by-product can be weapon grade. Even if it’s not weapon grade, the higher the refinement, the better the results in a dirty bomb.
      Iran is developing dirty-bomb capability. It’s that simple, it’s that profound. And a couple of dirty bombs on Israel would make the country unihabitable by anyone.
      Fortunately the Israelis know this, even if you don’t.
      So, no, this isn’t about who’s goading who over on our side of the world. It’s who’s goading who over on that side of the world.
      I could be wrong .. but all that trianing I got in the military in nuclear/biologial/chemical warfare means that I’ve got a clue.

  • NormP

    Iran will not attack until it is permitted to do so. By Russia and China. Both of these former (and still to be) superpowers have some SERIOUS axes to grind. USA being at the top of their lists. I have very recently seen some things which are almost impossible to believe. The days of US dominance in the world are short indeed. Israel is not stupid as can be noted they have indeed survived much longer than any other nation or people on earth. Our turning on them will NOT bring on their demise. Unfortunately our demise seems almost inevitable, our only hope was to have sided with them which will NOT happen. Those of you who deny this just remember that after we Christians are gone you will be next. What happens in between will NOT be worth your sticking around either. Watch, America IS on the very edge of passing into the distant memories of mankind. We will very soon become a third rate country. Clue: to whom do we OWE our current debt and what do we actually make that anyone is buying? Do you really think that these people will NOT call in that debt when it is due with interest?? They are NOT like us they don’t make loans to people and not expect to be repaid IN FULL. Think People THINK.

    • WTF

      We have no leader –or brains. It’s impossible to think beyond our wallets.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    When all else fails, blame the liberals. That’s taking responsibility!

    • WTF

      We conservatives have taken good notes from the liberals. It’s called “The Blame Game”. Been going on for years, don’tcha know?

  • veda s.

    Wake up everone. Iran wants to rule the world. They have no problem blowing Israel off the map and the U.S is next. Obama has given them pleanty of time to complete their nuclear plants. He has also refused to help Israel. But just one thing, God is protecting Israel and Lord have mercy on the U.S. for turning our back on Israel.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      If you see Iran as a threat to America you’re wrong.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Hopefully God understands that most Americans don’t back the decisions made by this gvt.

  • Marten

    Let Israel handle nuclear Iran….Well there already handling the USA Asylum…butch of MORONS

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Marten, I mean “butch of morons” choose a screen name and stick with it. I think “butch” fits best.

  • Johnny Machine

    One of the reasons the US is in the present financial difficulty is that it got suckered into expending obscene amounts of taxpayers money supporting and fighting wars which benefit that little racist state in the middle east. The American taxpayers should demand that the many billions of hard earned dollars (wasted supporting this rogue state who’s ethnocentric establishment wouldn’t give you the sweat from their brow if you were dying of thirst) be put to productive use for the benefit of America. Many of those agitating for war that would only benefit that little apartheid state have no concern at all for Americas welfare. They are only concerned only with plundering the US financially and expending the blood of young Americans for their own nefarious ends.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      I like your style. So in other words, screw em? If I had my way they wouldn’t even warrant news coverage.

  • DaveH

    After the Liberals and the War-Mongers finish wasting our financial and material resources, we will go the route of all great civilizations throughout history. Then the Muslims can just walk in and take us.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Our current wars came from a conservative administration.

      • WTF

        That’s because Clinton was too busy knocking off a piece when he should have been declaring war on terrorists–Bin Laden–name ring a bell?

        • eddie47d

          Clinton didn’t control the war purse strings the Republicans did.They gave Clinton a resounding no to go after BinLaden.When you think about it they still say no to everything.

  • Zed

    “Maranatha! Mark says:
    August 31, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    I love when folks start blaming the Y’israelis for this mess and say how ‘warmongering’ they are!”

    Zionist & atheist fanatics like Avraham Stern & Menachem Begin who murdered innocent civilians caused this conflict. As Christians we should remember that Jesus did not summon the more than 12 Legions of Angels to take control of Judea when he was arrested and that this conflict in the ME that has spilled innocent blood is not our fight. Matthew 24:15 is the Scripture that applies to Palestine today. Also the Rabbi’s of the Neturei Karta warn that to create a secular “Jewish State” is a violation of the Torah and that only the Messiah has the authority to create Israel. The regime claiming to be Israel there now is an imposter!!

    Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    —>”Y’israel has had plenty of opportunities to go to war with Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and Lebanon over the past 6 months, so I don’t think they are looking for a war, and one might even really go out on a branch and say they are looking for peace!”<—-

    If you really cared about the children there then you would invite them to emmigrate out of there to the US, Australia & Canada. Innocent blood has been spilled and supporting military operations in the Middle East stains your hands with sin of childrens blood.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      I pushed the reply button by mistake, sorry. Your post leaves me speechless.

  • http://personallibertydigest oppression10

    I would certainly trust Iran over Israel, the leader in deceit
    and false flags. I stand by the old rhetoric, if Israel has nuclear
    weapons, and of course they do courtesy of this government and Russia,
    than Iran should also. Iran has a right to defend themselves equally.
    When I happen to note Israel in my thoughts, I think of the Ringworm
    children, 100,000 strong. And now mass slaughtering of Palestinians
    in their own lands. May they stand along in their propaganda.

  • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

    What a discussion… so much ignorance uttered with such conviction! The problem is that each of the preceding contributors will think that this assertion does not apply to him or her. That having been asserted, I think that the song title should be changed from GOD BLESS AMERICA to GOD HELP AMERICA, and the lyrics altered accordingly.

    Looks like we are in our final days.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Don’t be a pessimist, the lyrics are fine. Other than that, I missed the substance of your post.

      • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

        I’m not surprised you missed the substance of my reply.

  • jopa

    Wow just think of the billions we are going to save now that we don’t have to protect Israel anymore and that god is protecting only her.That’s what I got out of most of these posts.Finally peace in the Middle East or at least no more American involvement.Right

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Like it or not we have a responsibility to be there.

  • Zed

    “GOD HELP AMERICA, and the lyrics altered accordingly.”

    We definately need His help.

    “Looks like we are in our final days.”

    We are, thank God. 42 million abortions in the US alone rivals the Marxist genocides of the past hundred+ years. God help us! Amen.

  • Zed

    “jopa says:
    August 31, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Wow just think of the billions we are going to save now that we don’t have to protect Israel anymore and that god is protecting only her.That’s what I got out of most of these posts.Finally peace in the Middle East or at least no more American involvement.Right”

    I urge Christians to convince everyone within 50 miles of Jerusalem to emmigrate out of there and to convert the region into a shrine honoring Monotheism. Remaining there will only lead to Armageddon. I pray God will enter into their hearts and place this “mustard seed” idea to persuade them before it is too late.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    jopa, I think you may have found a posting pal in Zed.

  • http://aol.com Dan

    Here is the bottom line .We are the UNITED STAES OF AMERICA, No one in this world should threaten us. If they do (Give them the one day blessing) SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT.Then drop the BOMB. AND screw the country that support them. Including our so called President who BOWS TO EVERY MUTT in the world. GOD BLESS AMERICA,

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Dan, your mimicking the last administration that got us into this shit hole in the first place. The tactic doesn’t work. We should try to learn from our mistakes, not repeat them.

  • Stevo

    It’s not that liberals don’t know anything.They know alot that isn’t true.They infest this site just like they do everywhere.Parasites.Lying,coniving bugs,that go places they are not wanted.Those liberal websites must be boring as hell,so they come to places like this,so they can suck a little blood.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    Stevo, start at the top of the page to (if you can) read the subject matter.

  • Truth-Seeker

    Right on, Artie and Walter, you hit the nail on the head. You (and a few others mentioned by Walter) seem to be the only ones on this site who know what is really going on. The rest of you appear to be hopelessly brainwashed by the Zionist-controlled media (96% of it is owned by Jewish companies–TV, radio, newspapers, magazines, book publishers, Hollywood movies, etc.) and that certainly includes the author of this article.
    Of course the Old Testament says “God” made a covenant with Israel–it was written by Jewish priests–what would you expect them to say? That doesn’t mean it’s true. I too am amazed at how blood-thirsty so many “Christians” seem to be. It’s not what Jesus taught–but it certainly is what the Jewish God, Jehovah, taught!
    It is time for the American people to wake up–get our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and put some of them on the Mexican border where the real invasion is occurring–and cut off all aid to Israel.
    By the way, Israel is not really a democracy (as someone claimed above)–it’s a racist communist country–most of the people who have controlled it for the last 60 yrs. are former Russian and East European Communists. And so are the people controlling Obama.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    As a “truth seeker” your research leaves a lot to be desired.

  • http://gmail i41

    Take back America, you sound a muslim bunk buddy of Onumnuttys. Everyone that is a sorry queer democrat, is why we have to purchase oil from these sand coons. We have more damn oil in the interior of the United States than all of the middle east. In the Rocky Mountains there is over 2 trillion barrels of oil, but every fd up socialist democrap mionons like enviors, Save the Owl, we need more parks, and Save the Earth idoits, all which are pukes of the democrap party, and don’t forget the gobal warming idoit Greasy Gore. When all of you illegimate spawn from the socialist dem party quit, trying to become communists the EU clowns like Onumnutt. USA can start to become self sufficent and create jobs again. I still don’t fathom why you socialist worry if the dictators of 3rd world countries like us or not, tell them to go get fkd! The pedophiule muslims didn’t like Reagan because heewould and could get tough as well as GWB. Which the world now knows Onumnutt is an overeducated pusified wimp with a telapromter.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      You are THE textbook Tea Party extremest. When Independents hear “Tea Party” you are what they see. We can all thank you for the Tea Party’s eventual demise.

      • eddie47d

        i41 says the same thing everyday,day in and day out.You’ll get use to his rantings. The positive side is that he makes the majority here look bad and the liberals look pretty darn good.

  • Disabled Veteran Brian

    Thanks Ben, for some clarity on the issues. I would rather Israel take a stand against Iran than have to do so myself. Iran is like the shortest kid in school getting into a urinating contest….they are gonna get wet….you don’t have to be the tallest kid at school to manage an accurate aim.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      The best post I’ve read today.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    If we get a President with a set between his legs and is not working for our enemies, he should develope a policy that is iron clad and deliver it to the world. The policy would be that if ever Israel or the US is attacked by a WMD we will immediately retaliate, no questions asked. The retaliation would be a nuclear atteck on every Muslim capital in the world. Also most of their religious sites would be destroyed. If it happens again we will finish the job. If they believed that we meant it and had the national will to do it, I believe they would clean house on their own home-grown terrorists out of fear for their national survival.

  • jopa

    Gunner689;One of the main problems is they don’t fear death and we did have a president with nothing between his ears.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      But now we have Obama and since he’s been in office we haven’t had any yellow, red, blue or even purple alerts.

      • WTF

        And we’re all the worse off for it! ObamaIslama has a lot between his ears–but none of it good for America.

  • jopa

    Take Back;I don’t have a clue what Zed is even talking about.Do you??

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      No, but as brothers in religious arms
      I thought you would.

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        Sorry jopa, went a little mud slinging, right wing, there for a moment.

  • Angela

    This is out of an article, that was written on August 11, 2010 “NO WAR” The Republicans have already named the 2012 – Doomsday War or should I say Armageddon! They have already done this with H. Res. 1553 actually 1/3 of the house republicans signed it. John Boehner is the head of this so called bill. Why should Israel fight our battles and why should OUR HOUSE OF REPRESENATIVES name the countries because OF BIG OIL AND SPECIAL INTERESTS – OWN OUR HOUSE OF REP’S. AT LEAST THEY OWN REPUBLICANS. I GUESS THE BIBLE AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IN 2012 HAS TO BE RIGHT. B……T!!!!!

    Nearly one third of the Republican Caucus in the House of Representatives has introduced a resolution giving Israel a green light to attack Iran. H.Res.1553 declares unwavering support for Israel to “use all means necessary” to “eliminate nuclear threats” posed by Iran.

    How could they name the war of 2012 already are they creating it? I think so – WAKE UP AMERICA IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT – WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE

  • http://gmail i41

    TBA, thank you, Tea Party people do know the facts about all crude oil in the interior of the USA. Some thing the socialist democraps have never wanted to check out or try to understand, the facts are proven as late as 4-2006, but the eviors and the green energy idoits. Socialist dorks live on concrete and never do a damn thing but theorize and avoid paying their fair share of taxes, because most are welfare rats and government employees(union duds). As for Independants, we have more of them than Rep., and of course not one communist democrat, in the Tea Party. Most refer to dems as, the tax cheat, airy fairy theory queers of the Beltway. If you think republicans are hard wired, independants are going to be the dems worst night mares. The more independants, the more rinos will leave and real conservatives will need to surface. Dems have a genitic defect that prevents rational thought or understanding government hatred and needs to be neutored, permantly.

  • Johnny Machine

    You have confirmed that you are nothing but a shabbath goy. One day your handlers will reward you with a cardboard placard to show you how appreciative they are. Good luck sucker or as your handlers call you “schlemiel”

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Thanks, I was at a loss. This guys a “piece of work”

  • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

    TAKE BACK AMERICA:

    You must be a helluva Monopoly player!! (That’s what you’ve been doing to this series of comments.) Why don’t you take a break. Aren’t you getting sleepy?

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      I don’t really know what that means but thank you for taking the time to read my posts.

  • mickey

    know GOD or no GOD . TO have your eyes opened some time when you are out driving around just drive through a grave yard. WE ALL ARE GOING TO DIE. I have buried most of my friends. two months ago i was talking to an old friend about LORD JESUS. I asked him just to read the BOOK of JOHN ,and he said he would some time. I believe in letting LORD JESUS speak for HIMSELF. Two days later i got a call from his sister ,one day later in the morning . He got up in the morning to use the bath room, and he dropped dead. HE was a young man .I was one of the last persons that he talked to. WE ALL ARE GOING TO DIE.you cannot escape it. WE all owe GOD a hearing. The choice is yours . be sure you can live and die with it,because die you surely will. LORD JESUS IS ALIVE AND HE MAY BE TRUSTED .The LAKE OF HELL FIRE is real ,and if you reject the WORK OF THE CROSS you will spend all eternity there alive with your flesh ,eyes,hands burning in liquid fire. the worst of all is the memories of who you are,and the memories of your loved ones.So please read the BOOK OF JOHN, and let LORD JESUS SPEAK FOR HIMSELF.Read it word upon word , verse upon verse, in context,and LORD JESUS WILL reveal HIMSELF to you. So have a nice day

    • http://www.songtale.com Phil Klein

      Everyone should remember: THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS IN HEAVEN!!!

      (because there is no heaven)

  • Walter

    Angela, concerning resolutions like 1553, it’s quite impossible to know whether those congressmen who voted for it did so out of committment to a Jewish homeland or fear of the fake jew zionists who own all of our media and who therefore have the power to make or break any politician they choose to. Voting against Israel is almost always political suicide, and sometimes physical suicide as in cases like congressman Louis McFadden and President John Kennedy. And it isn’t just our media and entertainment industry that are owned by these fake jews, it’s also our very federal government. Just look at the religious affiliation of Obama’s cabinet. Like Bush’s and Clinton’s and Reagan’s and the rest lately, they are almost all fake ashkenazi communist jews like Rahm Emmanuel, whom the Lord referred to in Revelations 2:9 and 3:9 as liars and the “synagogue of satan”. They are not shemites, descendents of Shem, or semites as we call them today. Ironically, the Palestinian people whom they murder daily with donated American military equipment can generally trace their lineage back to Abraham and thus are true Semites. So we have the absurdity of non-semites screaming “anti-semitism!” every time someone objects to their persecution and murdering of Semites! Beam me up Scotty.

    • Agent Orange

      Wow, what a bunch of insane rubbish — you should be forced to take a psychological examination!

  • Stephen Russell

    BS theyre building bombs or storing any Russian bombs since 1991, Iran may have more than 3 nukes.
    Israel should strike sometime?
    Use Diego Garcia for strike base, IF US does NOT aid Israel, we face NUCLEAR TERRORISIM.

  • Walter

    Just a note to Mickey. Concerning the description of hell in the Bible, the King James “scholars” either mistakenly or purposefully deleted a word from the original Hebrew text. It’s a small word but with huge implications. The word is “as”. The original text read “…as a lake of fire and brimstone”. In other words, hell is not an actual physical lake of fire and brimstone where the wicked burn forever. Heavenly Father takes no pleasure in doing such a sadistic thing as immersing his unrepentent children in liquid fire forever, or for even one second. Would you do such a thing to one of your children? The Lord is simply trying here to convey the idea that once we realize what we’ve lost as a result of our selfishness and false pride, the overpowering regret we will feel will eat at us and burn within us eternally like a lake of fire and brimstone. Heavenly Father loves you in such a complete and unconditional manner that it will hurt Him deeply to see any of His children fail to reach their potential. The teaching that he would actually immerse his recalcitrant children in liquid fire for eternity is a despicable satanic idea designed to destroy love for and faith in Him, and cause thousands if not millions of His children to turn their backs on Him rather than even consider loving and worshipping such a cruel and sadistic being. Hope this helps.

    • Viktor Leben

      Walter,

      I have to disagree with you.

      Jesus said this in Luke 16 about Dives (The Rich Man) …
      “In hell,[a] where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.”

      Here’s the hyperlink:

      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+16%3A19-31&version=NIV

      And all you token atheist – listen up to verse 31 ! Abraham says:
      “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ ”

      Abraham was pointing out the ABSURDITY of not believing ! You have the Bible and the Resurrection .. these are adequate proof. If you don’t believe either your going to join Dives …

    • http://yahoo.com grizz

      His children fail to reach their potential. The story of my life. I was so young and helpless. Those that were supposed to love me hated me just for being born male. They’ve never stopped.

    • James

      Walter, the ‘lake of fire’ is a symbolic place of final judgment. This judgment occurs after Christ’s Return and the resurrections occur. It is not the ‘hell’ of the Old Testament.

  • michael

    Just spent the last 20 minutes reading through the comments on this page. Wow, couldn’t shake the imagery of little children chanting, “sticks and stones make break my bones but names can never hurt me”. Apparently, many of you have available free time. Consider that you might be more productive if you quit hurling insults, get off your butts, and do something to advance your convictions. This would deliver you from any boredom, discontentment, and hostility you’re dealing with.

    • Viktor Leben

      Michael,

      I’m unemployed and waiting for tier 5 ! Hopefully I’ll find a job before then. All you people here on this website, making all your comments sure has been beneficial for my mental state ! I’m retraining for a computer job ! Sign up for a course over the internet ! Thanks to you people I’m feeling better about my fellow American !

      I probably will never get a computer job, I got cow crap for brains but at least I’ll have a nice certificate (with a card) saying I passed the Network+ test !!

  • jopa

    Walter; Very well said, also Angela Israel is not fighting our battles we are stuck in the mideast wars because of our support of Israel.Bush and Cheyney actually tried to ignore Israels childish behavior but along came AIPAC and put the big squeeze on them and they looked like a couple frightened rabbits.

  • http://yahoo.com grizz

    Chaos,chaos and more chaos. There is no postponing the inevitable. Mankind has always been on a collision course with itself. Like sitting bull related to outlaw J. Wales:People can learn to live together,governments cannot. Iran could have been dealt with effectively in 1978 and the radical,islam that took over. I remember when komanie was on his way from france where he had been exciled by the shaw. I was waiting for news that the jet aircraft returning him to Iran crashed and there were no survivors. It’s sad that the persion people have to live under such and evil and backward regime of terrorists. Just as there is a begining to all this insanity,there is an end. It’s going to be catastrophic for mankind and the planet we live on. It’s mankinds destiny.

    • Viktor Leben

      Grizz,

      You sound depressed, here’s something that will make you feel better ..
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGgyrGUA5SM&feature=related

      The big dude, Doug, just passed away a few weeks ago.

      • http://yahoo.com grizz

        Thanks Viktor,That gospel video made me weep. How’d you know I’m depressed from my post about a nuclear iran?

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