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Autism Debate with Jenny McCarthy on The Doctors Part One

May 9, 2012 by  

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • simian_pete

    So the vaccines have bad chemicals and some viral contaminants ? So what you need is a hi tech vaccine analyzer – pocket size – to validate the vaccine …

    Anybody out their want to design/market a pocket size MRI/PAT scanners with a built in AI ? That would solve the whole problem. You and/or your Doctor could scan the vaccine. Then you could scan the child for any possible genetically based bad side effects ….

    Anyhow, Jenny McCarthy is a babe. She wins the argument right away because she is Jenny McCarthy ! If I was in the audience I tell them two Doctors on stage to shut up ! You guys just show no respect for women !!!

    • http://PersonalLiberty Alondra

      Watch the video:
      Vaccination: The Hidden Truth
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=cqsT5EoIk8U&feature=endscreen

      Why does vaccination continue? Ignorance of the “experts”, who do not know or ignore the facts; Mainly the information of vaccinations comes from the Pharma companies (from the source and not from independed researchers). (2) There are a few independent researches. (3) Vaccine is a multi-billion industry. Therefore there is a “good” reason to continue.

  • Karmen Wagler

    My son was vaccine injured at a young age. He was walking, talking, smiling, making great eye contact and then he got the MMR and he was gone. He had seizures, constant diarrhea several times a day full of undigested food, mucus, and frothy. His balance was off. He was severely injured. He is now 15 and requires 24 hour a day care. He does not get waiver services for autism or developmental disabilities because there are so many kids on it that he has been on the waiting list since he was a toddler. 1 in 6 kids have a chronic disability in the US. Vaccines, over use of antibiotics, poor diet, and environmental pollutants share the blame with vaccines receiving the gold medal for harming our children. The so called “autism” epidemic should be called the vaccine injured epidemic.

    • http://autismnewsbeat.com Ken Reibel

      Did you file a case with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program?

      • Pete

        Why would anyone file a claim in this kangeroo court which is just the medical industry judgeing themselves as to if their product has maimed tens of millions of children? Only someone as dumb as you Ken believe this is a legitimate court.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeremy.leochner Jeremy Leochner

    I am autistic myself. My parents tell me I showed signs early on of what would blossom into what is often labeled as “symptoms” of autism. I was born the way I am. Unless my mother had a vaccine stuck into her womb while I was developing I highly doubt a vaccine could be responsible. I have no doubt that vaccines like any medicine can have side effects and hidden dangers but autism is not one of them. People with autism are born with it. It is part of who there are. There is nothing dangerous or shameful in being autistic.

  • TANSTAAFL

    That The Doctors show is terrible. They wear scrubs and lab overcoats to give the impression that we should respect their opinion to the point of blind obedience. The host of the show gets aggravated when he is challenged and uses his advantage as the host of the show to shout down anyone he disagrees with. Furthermore, most of the recommendations just parrot the mainstream pharmacologically dominated treatments.

    The first clue for me that this show should be ignored entirely was the use of scrubs and lab coats. Symbolism over substance.

    As for the issue at hand, I don’t think there is a definitive answer on the link between autism and vaccines, but there is certainly enough circumstantial evidence to warrant further investigation. Oh, and the disputation of Dr. Wakefield’s research has in turn been disputed. The author of the article lambasting Dr. Wakefield has been charged (not convicted yet) of fraud and the research done by Dr. Wakefield has been replicated.

  • R Bryant

    This episode of the show makes as little sense as it did when it aired years ago. The already-shaky main talking points of the antivaccine movement discussed here have all been thoroughly discredited in the years since this was broadcast : parents have been shown in prospective studies (as children developed autism) as well as in retrospective studies to be generally unable to date the onset of the symptoms of ASD since they routinely miss the subtle, early signs of the disorder, and so are unable to accurately attribute the onset of autistic regression to some time after vaccination; dramatic reductions in the exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines has been followed in various countries by increases in the prevalence of ASD; MMR is clearly not associated with the onset of ASD and GI symptoms; and the sudden onset of encephalopathy and the development of autistic traits following vaccination is the product of pre-existing mutations, and occurs whether or not the child has been recently vaccinated.

    It’s difficult, though, to play wack-a-mole when comments that are obviously false are routinely recycled. For example, TANSTAAF suggested that “the research done by Dr. Wakefield has been replicated.” Of course that is simply untrue–despite Wakefield’s outrageous claims. Wakefield was offered the opportunity (salary, staff support, and other funding necessary to use his already-assembled team) by the hospital that employed Wakefield full-time as a researcher to actually DO the research that might have replicated the findings claimed in his initial small study, but he declined. No one else has shown that receipt of MMR vaccine is associated with the onset of both bowel disease and autism. In fact, Wakefield’s former business partner and collaborator co-authored a paper based on an attempt to carefully examine this question; he concluded: “The work reported here eliminates the remaining support for the hypothesis that autism with GI complaints is related to MMR vaccine exposure. We found no relationship between the timing of MMR vaccine and the onset of either GI complaints or autism.” [PLoS One. 2008 Sep 4;3(9):e3140] No matter how many times that meme is replicated, it remains a fact that NO ONE has ever shown that the onset of ASD with GI signs is associated with MMR–as his collaborators have clearly indicated, not even Wakefield.

    • Mike in MI

      Like all human specimens always respond the same to the same stressor in exactly the same way, ayh? Modern kookie-cutter mudicine. Horrors!

    • metalflyer11

      Your coment is total disinfo. Dr. Wakefield should be considered a hero for taking a stand against the Drug Cartel that is big pharma. For big pharma more vaccines = more money, for children more vaccines = more autism & crippled inmune system.

      • Christin

        metalflyer,

        Agreed.

  • Les

    You can’t fight a gazillion dollar industry that is also in bed with the Federal Government. Especially when the staff on both sides keeps switching back and forth to protect their own interests and investments. More and more, I understand why people are saying we are a fascist country. The same thing is happening at all levels of government. For example the EPA and the Intelligence Communities all have jumpers that switch back and forth to ensure their companies get filthy stinking rich.

  • Mike in MI

    Mutations…um…sure – just like everything else the medics do to us that they can’t or DON’T WANT to deal with or explain since too many of those things hit into primary profit centers (regardless of what you guys are doing to the very society you have to live in…fools, ducks and quackologists). Tell me, you were never informed about the Japanese experience with this same horror you’re foisting on us? Oh, they never told you about how Japan cured the problem?
    Japan just quit giving the poisons to newborns and waited until the kids showed signs that their neuro-immune systems had developed to the point of maturity required to be able to respond to the horrible assault being carried out against them. (I’ve also found that giving the infant daily doses of a good nutritional suppement and vitamin D3 is highly protective of our little ones. However, I know you don’t want to hear that either. Cuts down on the frequency of those sick child visits and development of chronic iatrogenesis.)
    Back in the eighties this brought up a huge brooha-ha here in America because it was a simple but tremendous success. Our “scientific” community couldn’t deal with that kind of stark reality. So, they did their usual reaction to adjust to news they didn’t want to have to deal with. They identified a way to front-load some studies that guaranteed the conclusions they would get at the backend. It corrupts “science”. But, it’s profitability is overwhelming.
    The medical destruction of America’s economy is as much to blame for our demise as Obama’s incursions in other spheres.
    When are our citizens ever going to stop worshipping at that altar?

    • Mike in MI

      My entry above was directed at R. Bryant’s post and disinformation.

  • TANSTAAFL

    R Bryant responds to my post by claiming that the Dr. Wakefield’s findings have not been replicated. He did not site any sources for this assertion, but then neither did I. I could find may other sources, but here is one: http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal.html

    In that post you will find that his findings had been published before he had published them. You will also further references for the article. To be clear, Dr. Wakefield did not claim that MMR or any other vaccines CAUSED autism spectrum disorder, but did find enough of a link to warrant further investigation. I tend to agree with him on that point.

    Oh, and you missed the ‘L’ in TANSTAAFL (there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch).

    • TANSTAAFL

      Ooops, that should read: You will also find further references for the article.

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