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As Seen on TV

September 29, 2010 by  

As Seen on TV

Fox News recently reported White House Science Advisor John Holden was urging people to cease using the phrase “global warming” and instead use “global climate disruption.”

Brilliant. Rather than acknowledge that the completely discredited global warming industry was headed out to intellectual sea with the rest of the political sewage, President Barack Obama was resorting to the timeworn trick of repackaging an old product. I could simply have observed how well that plan worked for everything from Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign to General Motors, but then I mused: Why not help?

Perhaps what liberalism needs isn’t a one-way ticket to Mao’s mausoleum. Perhaps a little polish might restore the luster to the fading ideology of hypocritical tyranny. After all, it worked for Stalin, right? Errr — it might be useful in getting those unsightly rings off the coffee table. Plus, Billy Mays has passed on, so a Democrat Party infomercial is right out.

So I have undertaken the Herculean task of coming up with all new slogans for some of the tarnished bastions of left-wing politics. I’ve tried to put a happy face on the fear-mongering which has befallen much of the Left’s front line, while at the same time restoring the honesty which all too often is as foreign to liberals as a good punch line is to a Whoopi Goldberg standup routine.

To wit:

Global Warming. So-called anthropogenic global warming is in all likelihood the most successful junk science in human history. Much like phrenology or heliocentric astronomy, global warming is a theory which merely fits the observable facts.

Recent discoveries that major global warming “scientists” were falsifying their “data” nailed the lid down. High-profile backing of breathtakingly stupid Hollywood celebrities like Laurie David and uber-hypocrite Al Gore has finished off one of the farthest-reaching scientific scams since cold fusion was “discovered” 20 years ago:

  • ManBearPig is REAL! We’re super-duper SERIAL!
  • The power of imagination.
  • Is it hot in here, or is it… OH MY GOD!
  • Science? We don’t need no stinking science!
  • You say “summer.” We say “RUN!”
  • We can’t believe we get paid to do this, either.
  • Can everyone on Dailykos be wrong?
  • It’s Bush’s fault.

MSNBC. The destination cable outlet for Democrat National Committee talking points, MSNBC has been circling the bowl since Keith Olbermann led the charge to turn their primetime lineup into a bizarro-world version of Fox News. Desperately jealous “personalities” vent frustration and rage at their conservative betters, occasionally lapsing into fits of almost comical hysteria. It has apparently never occurred to GE management that the talentless nails-on-a-blackboard shrieking of Obama-cheerleader Matthews, the buffoonish Olbermann, Olbermann’s “mini-me” Maddow and mouth-breathing thug Ed Schultz might be the reason the channel’s entire primetime lineup can’t match the ratings of a single hour of Fox programming:

  • We love it here! (Please help us. We’re trapped in Keith’s basement.)
  • Sorry your remote broke.
  • If it’s even remotely related to reality — you’re probably watching VH1 again.
  • When Ed says “voter fraud is cool” he means that in a good way.
  • Like Fox News without all those high-calorie facts.
  • We promise, Olbermann’s only an hour.
  • Yes, Maddow looks like that on purpose.
  • Liberal talking points — we don’t write ‘em, we just read ‘em.
  • FEEL THE TINGLE!
  • It’s Bush’s fault.

The New York Times. Once the nation’s — if not the world’s — de-facto newspaper of record, The Times has descended into the depths of leftist illegitimacy. The “Gray Lady” is now a pale shadow of her former self, regurgitating Democrat talking points as actual news, occasionally without even rewording the releases. The plagiarism and fake reportage scandals of the last decade finally ended any pretense of credibility:

  • Remember us?
  • We were cool before email.
  • We were cool before mail mail.
  • You have to go somewhere during Department of State attacks on Drudge.
  • Print is so relevant!
  • So much more than Jayson Blair.
  • Check out our Pulitzers!
  • All the talking points fit to print.
  • Like the USA Today, without those distracting colors.
  • It’s Bush’s fault.

CNN. The world’s first global cable news network started slowly, but hit its stride during the First Gulf War. Sadly, liberal influence, led by former owner Ted Turner, forced CNN into an inevitable decline. While CNN hasn’t faced the same abysmal ratings as the tinfoil-hat-brigadiers at MSNBC, even the departure of Turner has failed to resurrect the once-proud network. The continued presence of weak personalities like erstwhile game show host Anderson Cooper and howling lunatic Jack Cafferty keeps CNN from shedding the “Clinton News Network” moniker it earned in the ’90s:

  • We used to be awesome.
  • Darth Vader does our voice-overs.
  • Like us, or we’ll send Carville to your house.
  • We’re so tired. So very, very tired.
  • Ted Turner has left the building.
  • Our ratings are still better than MSNBC’s.
  • It’s Bush’s fault.

Nancy Pelosi. Our current Speaker of the House rose to prominence after Dick Gephardt finally decided it was someone else’s turn to quarterback Washington D.C.’s intellectual junior varsity. This furious harridan lives in Catherine The Great-style wealth and comfort, but believes that the rest of us should live in Catherine The Great’s servants-style squalor. Much like the aforementioned Empress of All the Russias, Pelosi relates to normal people the way normal people relate to leper colonies. Pelosi also serves as a caution to those who might consider going the Leona Helmsley plastic surgery route. The mere idea of Pelosi’s proximity to the Oval Office is enough to make brave men quail. It will indeed be a sight watching her trying to get re-accustomed to the title of House Minority Leader:

  • Blinking is overrated.
  • Draining the swamp, one thimble at a time.
  • The miracle of Botox®.
  • I love poor people! They keep my houses clean!
  • It’s Bush’s fault.

Harry Reid. Pelosi’s Senatorial counterpart, Reid is the perfect foil for a shrill harpy like Pelosi. Despite reportedly having once been a boxer, Reid is small, weak-chinned and probably adept at standing in the ladies’ department holding his wife’s purse:

  • Compared to Obama, I’m John McCain.
  • Compared to Pelosi, I’m Barry Goldwater.

John Kerry. America woke up just in time:

  • Yooooou raaaang?

Al Gore. After losing the 2000 Presidential contest despite some exceptionally creative Democrat-engineered voter fraud, the wooden-faced and stiff-necked Gore has spent the last decade in an almost tragicomic attempt to re-establish himself as someone of note. After winning an Oscar for the world’s most inconvenient slide show, Gore continued to trot across the globe, lecturing the masses on the perils of global warming — oops — global climate disruption — while simultaneously leaving carbon footprints the size of Yankee Stadium:

  • PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
  • Do the bolts in my neck show?
  • Have Oscar, will travel (by private jet)!
  • RRRRRAAARRRRRRR! FIRE! BAAAAAAD!

John Edwards. An almost archetypical personal injury lawyer, Edwards built an eight-figure fortune exploiting the sick, injured and grieving, including one case in which he claimed to be channeling the spirit of a dead fetus (despite being pro-abortion). After Dick Cheney cleaned his clock in a 2004 Vice Presidential debate, Edwards staged a political comeback which derailed spectacularly when the National Enquirer busted him for an affair with a paid campaign contractor who bore him a child:

  • (singing)… The kid is not my son! (It IS my daughter, however.)
  • I am dedicated to ending the disparity between rich and… AMBULANCE!
  • I feel pretty! Oh so pretty!
  • Are they still hiring for a new Breck Girl?

The Ground Zero Mosque. The political hot-button issue of the summer of 2010, the Ground Zero Mosque was backed by shady finances and fronted by a Sharia-spouting Imam with an unfortunate track record of supporting the 9/11 attackers. Liberals leapt to the defense of the GZM in the name of the same religious freedom they would deny 9-year-olds who want to bow their heads in silent prayer before school:

  • Jihad, American Style!
  • Join us Fridays for Osama’s Greatest Hits, followed by bingo!
  • When we say “Allahu!” you say “Akbar!”

Barack Obama. So many failures, so little bandwidth. Elected on a wave of manufactured acclaim and old-fashioned race baiting, the former “community activist” has proven to be farther out of his depth than a kid wearing water wings swimming above the Mariana Trench. Backed by a rogue’s gallery of left-wing hate groups like the Service Employees International Union and the New Black Panther Party, Obama is plumbing depths of ineptitude unseen since the Carter Administration. Even Democrat Party candidates are showing signs of “losing the President’s number.” Despite desperate boosting by mainstream media sycophants and far-left-liberals, support for Obama is beginning to falter like a two-pack-a-day smoker in the 10th mile of a marathon:

  • Like Carter, except I don’t hate Jews that much.
  • Quiet, or Michelle will hear you.
  • What can brown do for you?
  • I can’t believe nobody noticed I lifted my campaign strategy from The Distinguished Gentleman.
  • It’s this or President Joe Biden.
  • I’m not asking you — I’m TELLING you.
  • Kenya… Hawaii… what’s the difference?
  • It’s Bush’s fault.
  • Did I mention it’s Bush’s fault?

This is by no means a comprehensive list. Obviously, there are many more leading lights of liberalism in need of an image makeover. Sadly, space and bandwidth limitations constrict my ability to offer assistance to every one of the travelers on the port side of American politics. More to the point — Mr. Livingston would probably prefer I not compose an Encyclopedia Britannica-esque compendium.

I leave it to you, my friends, my countrymen, my fellow Livingstonians to carry on.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • s c

    There’s not much I can add to this article, Ben. If I added aything to the article, it would be a short list of extremely pointed expletives, designed to put the knee-buckling, white-knuckle fear of early retirement into the hearts of the many subhuman monsters in Washington.

    • HFlashman

      Easy article to read. Right off the bat, the author discredits any hint of impartilaity then goes to prove he writes either through the foogy airs of ignorance, the green seas of being a paid hacker for the Right, or the red mercenary streams of manipulation and making money feeding from the ignorant fearful, hate filled masses comprising todays Conservative movement.

      Fox News. Jeesh. Let’s begin the article with a lie…’cause whatever Fox spews, it sure ain’t news. Fact is…there is nofact in the article. Go ahead…read it through again carefully. Not one fact. All made up and filled with hate, fear, envy, and manipulation so that you…yes you..the Conservative reader is maniplated, filled with prpoaganda, lied to and mislead.

      Offering solutions? The “solutions’ if any..are akin to driving down a road and having to make a turn because a building stands in the way. Easy solution…move the building, and the adjacent building, and the one afer that. Have it done immediately and don’t worry…because it’s been mentioned as the solution…it must be an easy fix…right? Don’t worry about the infrastructure, don’t worry about the owners…it’s all minor stuff.

      Would anyone buy that line of spiel? No. Yet there are those who will, in essence, not only buy it….but can somehow convince themselves that the speaker was correct and anyone who disagrees must be “the enemy”.

      That’s the goal of this author and those who join his ilk in being paid to manipulate you into believing the hate, the fear, and not see the power grab for which he is paid to hide. Logic goes out the window. Reason takes a back seat.

      Ask yourself..if you wanted to have a good, honest, complete debate…would you not offer a solution to the proposal you are opposing? Or…if you wanted nothing less than stall, cause disruption, throw morale and unity out the window, and most importantly have no solution to offer other than one which would expose your past actions and your forward goal showing you to be in line with a select few whose interests are against that of the good….would you just say “no’ to every solution, decline any participation, and broadcast lies, mistruths, and be as obstructionist as possible?

      Now ask yourself..what has the GOP done? Further America? …or ..

      • L.A.

        WOW, what ranting! At this point if YOU don’t get what the Progressives are doing to America then you are very nieeve or stupid!!
        Go watch MSNBC, obviously, that’s where you get your information!

        • HFlashman

          LA…so you’re saying that the past 30 years when the Conservatives and Far Right were calling the shots…we are standing tall ? Seriously?

          Astonishing….that anyone can look back since Raygun took office (may he be very very warm where he is right now) and say we are better off today than before 1981 because the Far Right and Conservative policies worked?

          Give me a break….or send some of those drugs you’re taking …

          • Brad

            Flash get your facts strait congress has been controlled by the democ “Rats” for 18 of those 30 year’s. The rats had controll going back another 30 more year’s, now isn’t that funny???

          • HFlashman

            Brad…so you’re taking the tack that the WH doesn’t push the agenda for Congress to consider? That Raygun didn’t have the yellow dog Democrats in his corner ? And that the Dems at every step of the way said ‘no” and did nothing but obstruct and divide?

            Yet…you give Raygun credit for his “accomplishments” … and Bush I credit for his ‘accomplishments”, and even..grudgingly ‘ give clinton credit for his “accomplishments’ … and what about Shrub’s six years with a GOP controlled Congress?

            When the Right was fought and defeated…we went forward. When the Right was accomodated and given its way…we went into the abyss.

            And overall…the record for the GOP and the Right is abysmal.

            Fact is fact. No matter how you want to spin it. Doing anything the Conservative way led only one way … against us and for the wealthy and Big Corporate America.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The president doesnt control what the politicians do flashy boy, no, congress does. And the democrats have controlled congress many, many more years than the republicans. They are the wankers leading us amuck, creating social programs we cant afford, and keeping millions on the public dole instead of looking for a damn job. Get real, and wake up, and join the human race. Your left wing buddies are destroying us as fast as they can. Can you not see that? Here is the most recent example of how they work things. Michelle Obama was employed at the University of Chicago Medical Center who hired her in 2002 to run “programs for community outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting”. In 2005, the hospital raised her salary from 120,000 a year to 317,000 a year, twice what her husband made as a Senator. Of course, he had just become a Senator, and requested an earmark for the UC Medical Center for 1 million dollars. Nice networking Michelle. Now that she has resigned, as Barack is the president, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to pay 317,000? Let me add, Michelle’s position was part time, 20 hours a week. So just how did this quid pro quo corruption escape all the reporters that were digging as deep as they could to find dirt on Sarah Palin, but couldnt find any? What a joke the left wing liberals are, and what a joke the left wing liberal press is. Thank God for Fox News where people can actually hear the truth. And flashy boy, read this please. Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose your job. Recovery is when Obama and the democrats lose their jobs. There you go. Some truth for your day.

          • Kinetic1

            The point being missed here is that “Global Warming” was an unfortunate choice to describe the condition. Yes, the theory is that Earth’s temperature does rise, leading to the moniker “Global Warming”, but the short term effect of this warming can be increased temps in one region and reduced in another. Watch any video or look at a chart like this [ http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/ ] describing the effect of polar ice melt on the oceans flow, and it’s clear what the concern is. Warming is the cause, but the true effect is best described as Global Climate Change.

            I understand your skepticism. After all, you’re used to hearing the Republican party referring to the end of their decade old Bush tax cut as a Democratic tax increase, even though the Republicans scheduled the end date to get it through. While were on that subject, your used to hearing that the Democrats are up to “dirty tricks” when they use the same rules that were used to push through the Bush tax cuts! And we all know that any judge who rules against what the conservatives want is an “Activist judge,” but when he (I say he because every good conservative knows how unlikely it is that a good, conservative judge is female) turns decades of accepted ruling on it’s ears, well he’s just a solid “Constitutionalist”. And let’s not forget FOX’s “Fair and Balanced”! That’s what you get when you put Blow Hard Sean Hannity on the same show as milquetoast moderate Alan Colmes. Now there was a show where you could always count on hearing both sides (If you could hear Colmes underneath Hannity’s screeching rant.) Yep, you have to watch out for these name changers.

          • Brad

            HFGlashman

            Answer one question, who has control of the purse strings and where is 13+ trillion dollars at?

            Congress controlls the money and legislation, the president is just a figure head, a sitting president can either take the full brunt of bad decisions made by congress or take full credit when things go right. So, why aren’t we holding congress accountable for the mess we are in, is it easyier to blame the president and his policies. Currently Obama and his policies to include legislation from congress has cost us today 3.4 trillion in new deficit spending, why aren’t you crying about that??? Inquiring minds want to know.

          • Conservative at Birth

            The Republicans have never had a fillabuster proof majority in the Senate. They have never been in total control. That is why the tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 were sunsetted. Get off the the phone Ya Big Dope!

          • Denniso

            What a long winded and pretentiously wrong headed article! Global warming is not even close to discredited and appears all the more ‘real’ after this summer of super flooding rains around the world in apparently unprecedented numbers. The most recent in Mexico and Wisconsin and Minnesota. The self interested and delusional ‘conservatives’ who are doing the work for corporate America in fighting science and the facts for the monetary benefit of big biz, will continue their denials as the facts and the weather changes mount.

            Once again, the Repubs position comes down to money…maintaining the sometimes obscene profits of companies like Exxon while the earth,it’s animal/plant and human life tries to cope w/ a building disaster, the likes of which humans heve never seen.

          • alpha-lemming

            WOW!!! Where to begin??? I didn’t know it was possible to be 540 degrees out of phase with labels, history, and recent/current reality, but you’ve proven me wrong.

            First…. Conservatives is charge??? Like who?? Bushes, McLame, Lott, Grahamnesty??? They’re progressive-lite, “socialism is an acceptable bi-partisan compromise between Constitutional government and Communist government”, vote-buying, government growing imposters and NOT… repeat… NOT CONSERVATIVES. I don’t know if we’ve seen a handful of REAL conservatives (Reagan… Dems “broke the deal” in ’80s and grew DC… not RWR, who can’t spend any money… read the Constitution) since the Civil War. Just increasing progressive implementation (Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Bubba, Chairman ObaMao) resulting in loss of freedom, redistribution, and dependancy. Federalism is dead… killed by the death of a 1000 cuts… with only the centralized oligarchy remaining.

            Second…. your definition of far-right and mine are different I think. I have little use for the Pat Robertson/Falwell wing of the party, as far as institutionalizing a theocracy is concerned, but I haven’t seen them writing any policy. I suspect your definition (correct me if I’m wrong) of the far-right is “anyone who doesn’t facilitate voter and welfare fraud is a racist, greedy, and enriching the wealthy”. It’s wrong, but that’s the only bullet in the progressive idea-gun.

            Finally… as a good will, olive branch I’d like to reassure you that it is indeed very VERY warm where Reagan is…. in the “cockles of the heart” of every conservative, Constitutionalist in the country.

          • eddie47d

            Brad; We wish Ben Crystal would get his facts straight. His tirade was that of a little child. He screams and hollers and threw a political tantrum and still said nothing. He says he wants to restore honesty but resorts to being totally dishonest. I’ll take Steve Colbert over this guy and that isn’t saying much!

          • John

            The conservatives never had control of the senate or house during Reagan’s term so it is amazing that he even got anything done. AS for going to pre Reagan yea I like the 20% mortgage rates, high unemployment, and gas lines!!! Just more proof that Socialism does not work.

          • Brad

            Eddie47d,

            Go ahead and blame someone because they don’t think or write the way you want then to. I blame Keith Olberman for race baiting, ya he’s a white guy with a progressive mantra, he isn’t fair and biased, just remember two wrongs don’t make a right.

          • Vicki

            kinetic1 says
            “I understand your skepticism. ”

            And well you should since it was the dreaded global cooling in the 70′s followed by the dreaded global warming in the 90′s followed by climategate where we find what really goes on in those “ivory” halls of “science”

            Oh and did I mention that climate does change. It’s supposed to.
            No need of man to make it happen.

          • eddie47d

            Brad;You’re just like alpha lemming above who assumes that liberals love welfare cheats.

        • John

          LA,

          Hal isn’t naive he’s stupid, judging by his previous posts.

      • Craig

        You are a waste of perfectly good oxygen. The GOP has done more good that the DNC has, which is nothing.

      • s c

        Flush, where’s your sense of humor, comrade? Between you and Nerm, neither of you have contributed anything to this topic (as usual). While I can’t recommend a specific product, that oral diarrhea and acute mental constipation that you’ve had for so long can be treated.
        I suggest that you get it treated before Herr Obummer’s Frankenstein healthcare scam goes into high gear. There will be so many of your friends seeking treatment that the system will be overloaded in six months or less.
        Up the rebels!

        • HFlashman

          I know…I should laugh. no solutions offered up, even in humor, other than ones playing to an easily manipulated 7th grade mentality. Slams, insults and hate filled invectives for those who are at least offering solutions…good or bad. And “humor” based in painting those who are at least trying as evil, stupid, and subtly portraying our fellow Americans as ‘the Enemy’ …

          Very funny … heck…he’s not even a good writer fer chrissakes…

          • a progressive nightmare

            Flushpan,,,, I have a solution, since you asked. Vote all the progresive-marxist commies out come November and RESTORE the Republic through the complete re-institution of OUR constitution. DUMP the UN and have them removed from OUR Nation. Build the DARN fence so as to stop this continual invasion of OUR Nation. Should I continue? Oh, I forgot, you think AMERICA belongs to the Soros NWO, correct? I guess WE THE PEOPLE can’t implement my suggestions? I forgot to ask Soros, Jones, Aires, the new black panthers, seiu, acorn etc. etc etc…..SUCKS! How dumb of me!

            Notice I made no delineation between the dems or pubs because it is the “Progressive-Stupid”. Been trying to tell you that for months now.

            …and by th way, when did the “Far Right” start calling the shots???? Heck, if the “Far Right” had been calling the shots for the past three decades, as YOU suggest, then we would be a REPUBLIC not a “Progressive Nightmare”.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            My gosh man, that sounds exactly as the platform that Obama used to run for president. He offered no solutions, no plans, and like a child in school pointed the finger and blamed others. That is the democrat playbook that you just laid out pal. Nice work.

          • 2WarAbnVet

            Sir, you disgrace the honored Flashman name.

          • eddie47d

            Progressive Nonsense(nightmare); You’re more like the Republic of China with your ca ca bull. You certainly don’t reflect well on the Republic of America. We’re still not buying your extreme drivel. You and Crystal are all talk but shallow wisdom. But that’s normal around here isn’t it Berberoni?

          • a progressive nightmare

            More dribble from the brain-storm Eddie46d, and just like ole flashpan, can’t seem to keep their comments straight.

          • John Woodbury

            Hey HalfBrain, (probability less) Even a moron like you should be able to tell “Global Climate Disruption” is a sack of processed fuel. Let’s see, the Age of the Reptiles (Devonian, for us educated people) was more freaking hot then now, and since we were not even out of our nappies as a species, how did man cause the first large Ice Age? Or for that matter the warmth of the Devonian? For all you, “humans is bad people” kooks, (the left, for moronic DNC paid talking points psychopaths) the big ball of fire in sky (the sun) does most of work, or non work, right now. I would be much more concerned about the start of the next active cycle than global change. (See Carrington event) It might make the electronic age, fried, much like your brains.

        • a progressive nightmare

          John, Well put! Progressives can’t see the forest for the trees. This is nothing more than a radical leftwing political agenda.i.e.; JUNK SCIENCE!

          • eddie47d

            John, Pour some arsenic into a glass of water and see if man can’t influence the nature of things. Drink up!

        • SFC Townsend (R)

          I was just noticing the labels have changed. It looks like yesterday’s “liberal” is today’s “progressive”. It’s all about “us” against “them”. At any rate; anyone for or against the ideas of climate change theory; please research urban heat islands. Seems urban sprawl undeniably leads to temperature increases in the affected areas. If you’re living in a rural area, you can get the same effect by standing next to the tailpipe of an idling car, or on a tin roof. Population control seems to be the answer to many of the themes discussed here; joblessness, climate change, dwindling resources, etch. I guess we all need to balance individual freedoms against personal responsibility. That sounds like a very conservative statement, but it’s the “conservative” wing that opposes any form of birth control, promotes economic expansion through growth, etc. Strange days indeed. Most peculiar, momma.

          • SFC Townsend (R)

            I apologize. I misspelled a word. “etch” should have been “etc.”

      • Brad

        HFlashman,

        So what you are saying in a nut shell, it’s my way or the highway, no discussion, do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars go strait to jail for opposing the liberal/progressive mantra. It’s dam time people started listening to EACH OTHER, we can bring solusions by combining the good from both sides of the house. Mr. Crystals article higlighted the extremes on the left and I will say there are extremes on the right, but he is right!!!

        Global warming being repackaged as Global climate disruption give me a break, its moronic to say the least. Who’s to profit if cap and trade is signed into law, not the greedy bankers, its Al Gore your global warming alarmist and oscar winner. So why aren’t you and the left crying about the greed of the left, did you know there are more Democratic Congressmen/Senators then Republican, 7 of 10 are Dems and John (The Traitor) Kerry leads the pack, who and don’t forget a tax cheat.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          He is a liberal, and that is the liberal agenda. My way or the highway. They dont care what people want, they could care less what the majority wants, and they could care less about right and wrong, good or bad, or the betterment of the country. All they care about is spreading their left wing liberal anti American agenda around, and they dont care what they have to do to do it. That is the democrats playbook to the T.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Yep and the next step will be their jack booted “form of persuasion”. However, I don’t think this is going to work out in the way they think it is.

          • JeffH

            Beberoni, you’re missed around here. Welcome back and I can see you haven’t lost a step. Yes, flash and his Marxist/socialist/communist comrads only have one agenda in mind and you sumed it up very well.

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot.

          • eddie47d

            If you’re Patriots I got a political slot open for you in the Republic of Kazakhstan. Jeff can be the little guy with the mustache.

          • Brad

            Eddie47d,

            You sir, you’re just a poor excuse for a political hack just like HFlashman, all flash with no bang.

          • eddie47d

            Brad,You’re just a man in an empty suit.

          • JeffH

            Brad better to be in an “empty suit?” than be completely emptyeddie headed.

          • eddie47d

            Nice try Jeff but you still get the gong.

      • Vigilant

        FlASHMAN SPEWS THE FOLLOWING: “Easy article to read. Right off the bat, the author discredits any hint of impartilaity [sic] then goes to prove he writes either through the foogy [sic] airs of ignorance, the green seas of being a paid hacker for the Right, or the red mercenary streams of manipulation and making money feeding from the ignorant fearful, hate filled masses comprising todays Conservative movement.”

        So much for your feeding from the ignorant fearful, hate filled masses comprising todays left wing movement. Attack the messenger? You’re a poltroon. Not once do you address the issue of global climate change on a factual basis. You’re a loose cannon.

        Science is never “settled” as the Gore-types would have you believe. When a scientist starts taking sides on any empirical question, he ceases to be a scientist and becomes just another political zealot.

        Too bad the humor plays to 7th grade mentality. That makes it too profound for about 90% of the libs.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Al Gore took some 7th grade science teachers who backed his theory on global warming. However, real geological scientists, the ones who actually know and study this stuff, have since come out in droves saying the evidence shows the planet has actually cooled since the 70′s, and that the ice caps have grown so thick and heavy, that pieces are breaking off of them under their own weight, then growing more. Of course, the Gore-ites take these pictures, and show them to sheeple like flashman, who believe Gore when he tells them they are melting. All in Al Gore’s quest to make a billion dollars tying to sell America this lie. Sad thing is, there are more sheeple’s like flashman around that eagerly buy into the doom and gloom the democrats spread, because they have no lives to speak of. Its pretty sad actually.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Well said! You see progressives are wordly people and therefore need a wordly god. “Global Warming” IS the progressives “Golden Cow”. Just think about it for a second or two and it will make perfect sense. ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOULTELY!

            If global gore successfully achieves his goal of having the masses(SHEEPLE) believe this nonsense, then he will become the “Global god” who saved planet earth. Thus in effect, USURPS JESUS CHRIST and GOD the FATHER….THE CREATOR.

            Matter of fact, all of us adults understand at this point, that the continual assualts from the progressives on our GOD/FAITH, Family values, education system, capitalism, our nation and our constitution have been clevely cloaked in the nonsense of “Collective Salvation” or better put, MARXISM. You see, a FREE peoples of faith cannot be easily fooled and understand that GOD can destroy and/or save the planet however humans cannot.

            Bottom line, this type propaganda only works on the least of us with very little faith in GOD and/or common sense…..i.e; sheeple

          • eddie47d

            Nightmare; Talk about propaganda,You will be Kazakhstans new leader.You got bull down to a science!

          • eddie47d

            Berberoni; I think I’ll believe my own eyes over your crock. The glaciers and ice bergs along the coasts are melting from the warming seas. The glaciers are calving from underneath and there is little to hold them up . You sir are a sheeple with no clothes!

          • Brad

            Please forgive Eddie47d he’s been drinking the Ohmama juice far too long for he does not know what he’s saying, hey appologizes to all.

          • Vicki

            And since Eddie47 provides no cites to support his assertions we easily conclude that he is just fantasizing.

          • eddie47d

            Vickie and Brad: You ought to pick up some reading material and see what’s going on in this big old world of ours. Not Ann Coulters snippy bullsh*t either.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie has a “sharp” tongue today. Still LMAO!

          • independant thinker

            I saw an article on MSN (it lasted maybe half a day before it dissapeared)that said the ice melt was much less than previously stated (I think 90% less).

            Global warming is real the question is how much if any influence we humans have on it. Global warming (the period between ice ages) has been going in cycle with global cooling (ice ages) for millions of years.

          • vicki

            eddie47. Judging from the number of cites you provide for your proofs I do not think I will worry overmuch about my library.

      • JoMama

        HFlashman -

        Screw you!!

        • HFlashman

          Jo mama…you’d never go back to the GOP if you did that ;)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I think your mom did, since you went there.

          • a progressive nightmare

            I would think flashpan is probably kin to himself.

      • JoMama

        HFlashman -

        Screw you.

      • dstk

        well, very well said

        • eddie47d

          More like triple stupid!

      • a progressive nightmare

        flashpan said: “Easy article to read. Right off the bat, the author discredits any hint of impartilaity then goes to prove he writes either through the foogy airs of ignorance, the green seas of being a paid hacker for the Right, or the red mercenary streams of manipulation and making money feeding from the ignorant fearful, hate filled masses comprising todays Conservative movement.”

        Now, that is very interesting flash. Why don’t you read your own comments and just substitute “progressive” for conservative and see if it fits.

        Flashpan contiues: “Fox News. Jeesh. Let’s begin the article with a lie…’cause whatever Fox spews, it sure ain’t news. Fact is…there is nofact in the article. Go ahead…read it through again carefully. Not one fact. All made up and filled with hate, fear, envy, and manipulation so that you…yes you..the Conservative reader is maniplated, filled with prpoaganda, lied to and mislead.”

        Same again, just substitute MSNBC or anyother of the numerous progressive controlled propaganda outlets and see if this fits.

        Flash continues in his POINTLESS rantings: “Ask yourself..if you wanted to have a good, honest, complete debate…would you not offer a solution to the proposal you are opposing? Or…if you wanted nothing less than stall, cause disruption, throw morale and unity out the window, and most importantly have no solution to offer other than one which would expose your past actions and your forward goal showing you to be in line with a select few whose interests are against that of the good….would you just say “no’ to every solution, decline any participation, and broadcast lies, mistruths, and be as obstructionist as possible?”

        What you just described sounds VERY familiar to me? OOOOOHHH, let me think. Oh, you are talking about Obama and the progressives and the most serious divide in this nation that I have personally witness in over a 1/2 century. Thanks for verifying this for us. Kinda makes my depression about this “Progressive Nightmare” even more so depressive.

        Now, you call us ignorant but you actually believe in Global Warming???? Who is ignorant here? Heck, a simple 8th grade math equation will totally debunk YOUR unfounded claims about Global warming. You people actually think that you can predict future weather patterns??? You actually think you are smart enough to measure the things of this ever changing planet? Are you nuts or what?

        We have about 100 years of climate data collected to date on a planet that is 4.5 BILLION years aged and you think that a 0.000000022% time slice of data is sufficient to draw some kind of “Scientific Conclusion”??? JUNK!!!!!!! Nobody could possibly be this STUPID!

        We do have climate change or climate disruption Flash and it happens 4 times a year! It’s called the 4 seasons:

        1.) Winter
        2.) Spring
        3.) Summer
        4.) Fall

        Now, isn’t that just amazing! You think maybe we can get cap & tax passed on my “science”?

        • eddie47d

          Nightmare; Arguing with you would be like arguing with an idiot.I’ll let you rock in you’re chair in some corner at the state home. I’ll get the same answer over and over again.

          • Brad

            Eddie47d,

            Look in the mirrow you would argue with your own reflection. Look who calling the kettle black now.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Brad…sad but true! Never discuss facts or science with an ppolitically motivated emotional progressive. It causes them to have a fatal CPU check.

          • Brad

            Progressive,

            He probably has the blue screen of death, his hard drive has crashed and does know how to rplace it.

          • Brad

            Progressive,

            Should of said; He probably has the blue screen of death, his hard drive has crashed and doesn’t know how to replace it.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Brad! LOL! Agreed!

          • eddie47d

            Not much of a response from 2 “brilliant” minds.There are lots of tag team gang bangers on this site,but don’t worry you’ll get better.

      • Marc

        You Flashman say: “no facts in article “.Trying to hide behind your cheap propaganda you are too blind to see you don’t offer any facts yourself.NOT a single one.Just go on reading Marx.Shame on these cheap haters.

        • eddie47d

          Flash doesn’t need Marx to guide him like you,Nightmare and Ben Crystal do. You’re way to obvious in the repetitive slander.

          • Brad

            You still need to look in the mirrow!!!

          • eddie47d

            You broke it and all I see is your crack.Not a pretty sight!

          • RightOn

            Eddie, you have said nothing yet you attack. Shouldn’t you be blogging on MoveOn.org? Plenty of much ado about nothing there. Also, no shortage of party hacks there either.

            1. Cap and tax- just stupid. If it was solely based on bad science that would be understandable since the lib party is heavily supported by the ‘green’ agenda and their money. Got a little research project for you. It involves ShoreBank, located in where else but Chicago, and the Chicago Energy Exchange. Look at its board and you will see prominent theives/libs and look carefully and you will find the Clintons, BarryO, and many of their buddies as directors and shareholders. This is where the energy credits will be sold and the commissions will make all of these ‘neutral’ parties darn near billionaires. That is why the bill is so important to them.

            TARP (both of them) You libs rail at big business and give the government a pass on bailing them out with tax-payer dollars. Hypocrites all. They had their shot now its up to them to stand on their own collective two feet.

            Small business reform- only see new equipment subsidies there. What about struggling small businesses that dont need equipment- what is in it for them?

            Healthcare- Flash’s ideas for that aren’t so bad. Still, we have medicaid to handle this already. Still, socialized medicine doesnt work anywhere else and the working taxpayer will foot more of the bill for the nation’s dependents on top of what we do now. Screwing the nation’s medicare recipients who have paid into the system all their WORKING lives is morally wrong too.

            Like his workfare ideas but he needs to take them further. ONE day per week is not enough work for those who are professional welfare recipients. How about 40 hours cleaning up their communities- and from what I’ve seen there is plenty of work to keep them busy. The way they care for their taxpayer funded housing is atrocious. Even dogs are smart enough not to poop where they eat. Drug tests for public aid abusers as a requirement are much needed also. Stay clean or stay indigent. Those of us who foot their bills have rules, so why shouldn’t they?

            I enjoyed this article on the whole- nothing said here that isn’t based on current facts. They are just not the fact libs accept. Smaller govt, tarrifs on goods(especially those produced by US corporations abroad), and term limits for kingdom building legislators in both houses would be a good start to mend this country. Do we have the courage to start this? Time will tell.

        • HFlashman

          You want what I would suggest as some alternative solutions? OK

          1. Health Care. Erase state limits on selling polices. Break up the five in the oligarchy and repeal the monpoly status granted in ’48. Offer a public ‘option” (option…not mandate). Do not require Physicians, hospitals etc to join in the “option’…but they have to forego federal dollars if they do opt out. And if they opt in, they are in for a period of five years having to accept all, no cherry picking. Encourage public hospitals to join forces and form ‘cooperatives’ where one may specialize in caridac, another in neo natal etc….reduces liklihood of repetitive machinery etc and concetrates expertise.

          2. Economy. I agree with the Stimulus. I agree with TARP II (making ‘em pay back with interest). As to the stimulus, I would target it more specificaly towards alternative energy technology, small business creation (small business…not Big Borp. ‘small business’), rebuild infrastructure, give easier access to credit for homeowners to improve property, etc. I would eliminate ag subsidies for the mega corporate farms and have it available only to family owned/operated farms. I would eliminate any monies smacking of oil. I would put in place cap and trade on emissions and create a bourse for trading. I would do what JFK did..hike taxes on the super wealthy, decrease them on the Middle Class. I would do away with Capital gains…period.

          3. Social programs. I would require at least one day a week ‘contributing” via work ed. etc. You draw on the dole unemployment or welfare…one day a week back to the community. I would eliminate SSI checks for those over 62 having incomes above $60,000. I would target math and science grads…get a degree in X field, work for the gov’t for 5 years in that field…loans are forgiven or decreased.

          4. Immigration. Easiest and quickest solution of anything. If someone knew, or should have known, they were employing undocumented labor, $5000 fine and 30 days in the county lock up…appeal does not stay the sentence. Any and all taxes avoided during the period of employing undocumented workers…doubles and becomes an immediate personal and business lien and garnishment. No one in their right mind would then employ undocumented workers … no jobs..no reason to be here.

          5. Repeal the UnPatriotic Act in its entirety and reestablish the Right to Counsel etc. Shut down gitmo immediately and transfer those held to max security prisons in the US. Then give them public open trials.

          And on and on … but those are some of what i would propose as solutions..

          • Vicki

            HFlashman and I find common ground. Very small but it is there.

            1. Health Care. Erase state limits on selling polices. Let the free markets decide the prices without state government barriers. That is the purpose of the commerce clause in the Constitution.

            2. Repeal the Patriot Act.

          • Doug

            Wow no SS for those over 62 with $60,000! Fart why is their money your to use please explain this to me? Also why do invaders and people who don’t work get any SS? Typical liberal you want to spend my money but when we want your money it not available. Sorry Fartman you are indeed and idoit what college do you work at?

          • JeffH

            Flash, do you even know what SSI is? Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is a Federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues (not Social Security taxes):

            It is designed to help aged, blind, and disabled people, who have little or no income; and It provides cash to meet basic needs for food, clothing, and shelter.

            “I would eliminate SSI checks for those over 62 having incomes above $60,000…”
            You can’t get an SSI check if you’re making $60,000/yr or $20,000 for that matter.

          • independant thinker

            “I would do what JFK did..hike taxes on the super wealthy, decrease them on the Middle Class.”

            I believe JFK cut taxes across the board.

          • Vicki

            IT you believe correctly. It is a little hard to dig out the data but clearly the tax cuts by CONGRESS at the request of JFK did indeed help fairly evenly all Americans who had “income” http://www.conservative-politics-infofind.com/JFK.html

            Of course the rich get more $$ back from tax cuts. They pay by far the most.

          • RightOn

            Flash you started strong and finished progressive(weak). Nice idea and then a bunch of dreaming.

      • refuse2lose

        Have you ever thought of taking out that Kool Aid IV? If i was you I would do it STAT,because your brain has turned to mashed potatoes. Not everything that is written has to be factual,just ask the people working for our “unbiased” mainstream media. But of course when THEY do it,you stand and applaud,because you believe that government should teach our kids,feed our kids and then they will vote democrat for life because they are so greatful for what has been done for them and love the fact that they don’t have to work for anything.

        What has the GOP done for the USA? It has saved us from the likes of YOU and your ilk. Without the GOP,the USA would be DOA….. and allowing Obama and his clown posse to continue their destructive dance will surely get them their decades long goal.

      • Cherri Roper

        Well, here’s a fact…Global warming, climate change, global climate disruption, going green, saving the planet….whatever you want to call it is nothing more that slick marketing for certain groups of people and big business to repackage and market new ideas, package and sell things that would never have sold before. For example, grocery stores and department stores have now found a way to make the customer pay twice for the bags they take their merchandise home in. Hey, buy the fabric or plastic bag and reuse it..therefore the store will not have to supply the bags, even thought that is in their cost and advertising budget,they now are making a profit off the green advertising..and the publis is dumb enough to buy it. I am not saying that we don’t need to take care of our world. I am saying there is a lot of poppycock in all the green hogwash! Al Gore laughs all the way to the bank at how naive and stupid people are! And when they listen to his hog wash they are stupid!!

        • RightOn

          Perfect post. Could not have said it better.

      • Carrie TPT

        Talk about hate & fear – mongering, your speech is right out of the liberal “infilterate & discredit” handbook. I’d like to introduce you to a fact, or perhaps we could interest you in a sense of humor?

      • http://google blee

        Flashpan please don’t take this to heart, get a life fella’. I swear do you have ajob? I haven’t been to any of the these sites lately but you seem to have more time on hands or just so bored that all do is whine. Oh hey, you have a good day now, ya’ hear!

      • Conservatives United

        HFlashman: Nothing more to say. Just like all the rest of the Loony Left. Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves, with out anyones help. I stated that very fact after the 2006 Election, and the Loony Left proved me right.

      • SLJohnson

        Hflashman, you are clearly an astute, well read, and articulate individual. However, you have been brain washed almost beyond saving.
        I am one who doesn’t believe either side is free of lies and manipulation, ESPECIALLY the liberal left that is in charge. They have done nothing to fix our problems and everything that have done, from what I have seen, is only making things worse. Do you honestly believe that Bush was a conservative? Really?
        The sad fact is HE WAS NOT. He was just a liberal with an R in front of his moniker.
        Please, for the good of your soul, you need to stop believing the liberal left. By all means, continue to doubt Republicans. I’m not too fond of the old school Republicans myself. Let’s let the Tea Party take the party back and see what they do.

      • old white guy

        wasn’t it hitler or gobels that said tell a big lie and keep telling it until the idiots believe it, just paraphrasing. you are an idiot.

        • ontopic

          Both. Hitler was accusing the Jews/Marxists – Goebbels was accusing the English of employing the “Big Lie” technique.

          They weren’t explicitly endorsing its use but I do think it’s a classic example of projection (ie, imparting one’s thoughts/ideals unto others – there’s a mirror in your future).

          Interesting that Hitler was fighting (in words and actions) actual self-proclaimed Marxists but the president is accused of being both.

          And of course (back to the article) ‘National Socialist Party’ is a classic example of re-packaging. Among the first things this socialist chancellor did was to outlaw trade unions.

          • SFC Townsend (R)

            William James (1842-1910) The father of modern Psychology “There’s nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it.”

      • guyb

        Talk about knowing nothing…. Why don’t you move your liberal backside to some muslim nation and leave America altogether. Wait,can you take your far left liberal anti Americans with you,you know obama and wife. The three of you can fail together in obamas home country of kenya.

        • Karolyn

          So tired of hearing self-righteous conservatives telling fellow
          Americans who don’t believe the same as they to leave the country. Is there anything more childish. Actually, though, I hear a lot more childish on this site from both sides but more from the right because there are more of you.

          • RightOn

            Desperate times call for desperate measures. Truth is, we really don’t need brainwashed pawns of Pelosi and Obama here. Reality dictates that we accept them for who they are. You can spout your liberal ideas elsewhere- why are you posting here? There are plenty of liberal comment boards spouting the drivel Flash and Co. are posting here. You come to our boards with your propanganda, expect to be scorned- as we would be on yours. Except we have no interest in liberal ideas. We have seen them fail since 2006.

      • RightOn

        Stupid is as stupid does HFlash! You libs are failing and lashing out just highlights your weakness. Love it. Face the facts- your lib networks are just spewing Pelosi-Obama garbage and are not worth watching. Working folk just are not buying the liberal product anymore.

        Lerch Kerry! Classic. Thought I was the only one calling him that!

      • dan az

        Flash?
        So which flash are you? We should ask for all of you to at least number which one is Ranting this time.

    • ontopic

      HFlashman is correct with respect to the “as seen on Fox” lead-in. Reminds of when a bad movie uses reviews from never-heard-of small-town papers because it was totally panned by the national critics.

      Switching gears..

      It seems to me that people who present global-warning/climate-change as a right vs left issue fail to appreciate one aspect that makes it unique. Unlike other issues, this one will be empirically resolved one way or another in our lifetime. Abortion/guns/immigration/etc. have been and will be debated for years but climate change is going to either happen or not. Ultimately there will be a “correct” position on this one.

      Sort of a modern day version of whether the earth is flat and/or revolves around the sun. Imagine yourself back then – which position would you have taken?

      And finally…

      On the subject of packaging: The Ground-Zero Mosque is neither.

      • a progressive nightmare

        ontopic, We do have climate change involved here and I can scientifically prove it, as follows:

        1.) Winter
        2.) Spring
        3.) Summer
        4.) Fall

        Isn’t that amazing!

        • ontopic

          Seasons are part of how a climate is defined – where’s the change part?

          Is is something like this?

          Winter/Spring/Summer/Fall “changes into” Summer/Summer/Summer/Summer

          • a progressive nightmare

            LOL! Keep believing that Buddy! Read my response to flashpan above. I do have a science and math background so let’s see your “Progressive Facts” that led you to these “scientific conclusions.”

            Make sure the “data” hasn’t been progressively corrupted before you send it to me.

          • ontopic

            @prog. I was simplifying matters just to underscore the real distinction between the terms “climate change” and “seasons”.

            I read your post as instructed and it only reinforced that you think these concepts are synonymous. (I ignored all the MSNBC/FOX interchangeability stuff)

            Seems the phrase “climate change” is not understood and that (for you and several other posters here) a re-packaging would actually help.

            I am a mathematician (not a climatologist) and have great respect and understanding for data scrubbing/noise elimination/Kalmann filtering/etc. It’s all about signal to noise ratio concepts – techniques that put men on the moon, keep satellites in orbit, optimize crop rotation, etc. etc.

          • Vicki

            Ahttp://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/interplanetaryseasons/s long as the sun stays small and the earth stays tilted on its axis there will be winter/spring/summer/fall. Laws of physics. How warm and cold they are might change based on real factors such as solar constant (which isn’t), the amount of gaseous water in the atmosphere and the amount of dust (from volcanoes etc) in the atmosphere.

            It might be too warm for humans but it is good for dragons. The seasons will remain.
            http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2000/interplanetaryseasons/

          • old white guy

            jeez there were dinos in alberta canada. so bloody hot year round reptiles lived there 24 7. the place was covered with ice a mile thick after that and now it has warm summers and very cold winters. get your head out. keep our water clean and we will be ok.

        • HFlashman

          Prog. Nightmare..

          Let me ask you…if the climate change proponents are correct…then we have to act to at least slow down the changes and disruptions so we can adapt and try to correct the ills causing it. And, in the process move forward in technological advances in both ebrgy and environmental protection.

          OK…will you give that as a basis so far?

          If the anti climate change folks are right…we need do nothing.

          Now…what if the Climate change proponents are wrong? What harm has been done? We’ve moved forward technology wise and moved into 21st century energy advancement and gotten off the Middle East power over us.

          And if we did nothing…what if the anti climate changers are wrong? What are the consequences?

          Think about that.

          What if you are wrong and we did do nothing?

          • a progressive nightmare

            You seem to “feel” that in some wierd way that you or I can change the climate of a planet. A planet that is in a continual process of change well beyond our human concepts.

            Since you think that we humans are THAT powerful, then why did we not stop the eruption of Mt. St. Hellens? Why can’t we stop earthquakes? Why can we not stop a meteor the size of a state from stricking the planet?

            Can you predict for us when the Pacific ring of fire may errupt? I would be REAL concerned about that possibility because it will in all probability be an ELE for we humans.

            The cold hard facts of this nonsense of Global Disruption is political! Politically motivated JUNK SCIENCE. Nothing more, nothing less. We all clearly understand why you progressives need to have the masses believe this scam, so you can get yor GOLDEN COW cap and tax passed. In doing so, our freedoms, as we currently now them, will become an ELE.

            Bottom line, I do not worry about Global Warming because there is no scientific way to prove or disprove YOUR progressive theory. It is the same thing as yelling on a busy street corner that “The Sky is Falling!!” If either of the two happens, it will be because the CREATOR allowed it to happen. I do not claim to be more powerful than the CREATOR of which BOTH my life and my FREEDOMS flow.

            Let’s see if your progressive science can predict just how much the temp is going to increase over the next 10-20 years. After that, we can re-visit this subject and see how accurate you are. Of course, there are things called anomolies that may require decades, centuries or milleniums of data to make that scientific determination. But, you see, that scientif suggestion won’t work for your agenda because then you cannot claim that YOU saved the world by implemeting your cap and tax and GREEN power grab schemes.

          • eddie47d

            In other words Flashman -Nightmare is saying ,No matter what the proof (and he will deny it anyway),he will put it off and see what happens. He will be the guy who watches the dam break to see if he will get wet!

          • Brad

            Eddie47d,

            It come to mind that some 30 thousand scientists have debunked the climate warming alarmists.

          • a progressive nightmare

            eddie47demond….Where is your proof? Send the data to me for analysis. I’ve spent a lifetime analyzing data and FACTS. I’ve actally lived on this planet for over a 1/2 century which is 0.000000011% time slice as it relates to the age of the planet. Do I see or feel a tempature change from 1 year aged to 50+ years aged? Nope, we have the same climate now that I experienced in the 60′s, as a Kid. We also had a 1/2 century ago massive flooding, hurricans, tornadoes, volcanic eruptions, etc etc etc We also had 4 seasonal changes back then…SHAZAAM!!! Sounds just like current earth!

            Now, wonder if I said YES to that question??? I wonder what the scientific reasoning would be behind that “Feeling” because the DATA says otherwise!

            You you actually think people are this stupid???

          • 45caliber

            nightmare:

            You asked flash why couldn’t we stop Mt. St. Helens? It reminded me. The left’s scare tactic at that time was: we have enough nukes to blow up the world! And we have to get rid of them or we will!

            Shortly after Mt. St. Helens went up, someone calculated the power of that blast (which really isn’t that big of an explosion for volcanoes) as more than every nuke in the world combined into one blast.

            It was on tv news. And, you know, I haven’t heard the lefties argue about too many nukes since.

          • eddie47d

            Caliber;Most volcanos don’t target cities like nukes do.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie, again your brilliance is just amazing!

          • Karolyn

            Nightmare, as regards your assertion that nothing’s changed, I’ve been around at least as long as you; and the weather sure has changed in my view. I’m from NJ but moved to SC. This past summer was the warmest in the record books. As far as NJ, I’ve been gone from there for over 5 years, but from what I hear, there’ve been a lot of extremes, and that’s what’s being seen all around the world.

          • Claire

            Karolyn–Where I live, we never had tornados. Now we are a part of tornado alley. I believe there is climate change.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Karolyn, Exactly, thank you for making MY point. Planet earth is in a constant flux of CHANGE. No one day, week, month, year or decade will be the same. Datasets on climate readings are VERY limited as it relates to the age of the planet. For once in your life, try to apply a little reasoning to problem solving. You cannot accurately predict future weather patterns because you nor anyone else on this planet has enough experience or data to prove or disprove anything when it comes to this politcally motivated FAKE “Crisis”. In fact, NOBODY on this planet has any idea what events will take place tomorrow, much less 50-100 years from now.

            The fact is, “THE DATA” actually reflects that the planet has gone through a cooling cycle over the past decade, as if that really means anything or has any REAL significance. Now, if you don’t believe that then provide me with YOUR data. I want to see it so I can analyze it for MYSELF.

            I don’t need or trust ANY government scientist to give me the correct answer because once a scientist is PAID by the governemnt then their objectivity has been corrupted by “Political Motivations”. If you want to be a “Sheeple”, then be one but don’t parrot claims to others that you cannot prove-scientifically. We really don’t care how much warmer it “Feels” to you and that is about how accurate your claims are and the left’s claim on the subject at hand. ZERO!

          • Vicki

            Karolyn says:
            “As far as NJ, I’ve been gone from there for over 5 years, but from what I hear, there’ve been a lot of extremes, and that’s what’s being seen all around the world.”

            That would be a sign of the biblical apocalypse not global warming.

          • eddie47d

            Oh please vickie!Now, you’re comment might be considered Fake Data.

          • vicki

            eddie I don’t think that word (data) means what you think it means

            I observed a comment and noted its similarity to a sign from the bible.
            Since it was not data and is demostrably accurate it can not be fake.

          • RightOn

            Yeah, Eddie- You are in my world now. Nukes. President Reagan made it his mission to run the Soviets into the ground with nuclear improvments and supplemental technology to fight and win against a once evenly matched opponent. MX, Trident D-5, and the threat of Star Wars technology pushed the already troubled SU to the brink of bankruptcy.

            The SU and Star Wars was the key. We threatened with missile defense on the ground (which we have) and missile defense in space (which we also have, but not in the form of lasers or anti-missile missile platforms. Ground penetrating look-down satellites were the difference. The beginning of the end was when we mapped the underground tributaries of the Nile and the Aswan Dam and publicized the photos- from satellites.

            The SU then knew it was over. We knew where their missiles were hidden-it was over. We didnt need to target cities to win. Our subs could hit their silos before the missile left them. This combined with their their waning influence in the nations of the Warsaw Pact was their defeat- without our firing a shot.

        • 45caliber

          Nightmare:

          You are correct. Further, they worry about 1/2 degree difference but the difference between summer and winter is more like 50 degrees or more in some areas. And the only reason we have that difference is that the sun is perhaps five hundred miles closer to our hemisphere in the summer vs. the winter.

          Just how much of a swirl in the surface of the sun would be required to make a 1/2 degree difference? And considering that the solar flares can come out as far as Mercury or further, I would think we could possibly see temperatures of far more.

          • a progressive nightmare

            You got it! That is my point with all this Global Disaster JUNK Science. Fact is, NOBODY, I MEAN NOBODY on this planet has a CLUE what tomorrow will bring much less stating the planet’s temp will rise by 1/2 degree in 10, 20, 30 or 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years.

            It’s JUNK! Cap & Tax scare tactics, global governance by the self-appointed gods of the planet (gore)…nothing more, nothing less.

            FYI for the progressives: The aforstated number is 10 to the 21st power which is a SEXTILLION. Given that, I would give your global warming theories about a 1 in sextillion chance of being correct.

          • eddie47d

            Whether it’s right or wrong,cap and trade is about responsible emission levels and how they affect human health. That is a concern for all.

          • HFlashman

            Prog….what if you’re wrong? We know what happens if the climate changers are wrong…we don’t lose, we still gain. But what if you’re wrong?

            BTW..I was in Portland when St Helens blew. I also grew up near a pulp mill town. Trust me….one year in Cosmopolis Washington I saw far more junk thrown in the air from one pulp mill than the eruption I saw with St. Helens.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Flash and eddie, Cap and tax is nothing more than a progressive scheme for creating wealth for a select group of people and controlling the planet so those select group of people can fly over us and say ” Can you believe those dummies down there bought this crap!”. In other words, It’s just another all-encompassing marxist scheme of “Wealth-Redistribution”. It has NOTHING to do with our health and certainly has nothing to do with the health of our planet.

            When your TOP Billionaire GUNS( Gore), live in Mansions with 12-15 HVAC units, own several homes all over the planet, fly all over the planet, are over-weight and spew hot air all day, HOW THE HECK DO YOU THINK ANYONE WITH AN IQ OVER 80 WOULD BELIEVE THEM???

            Sell this JUNK to a bunch of sixth graders! Oh, I forgot, that is what Gore is doing! He is flying around the country meeting with our children telling them that their parents don’t have a CLUE about global warming. How convenient!

          • eddie47d

            Nightmare; “progressive scheme”? I hardly doubt that.Few of us are going to bend over backwards to make some entity(select group) wealthy. You’re only throwing a mountain of JUNK talk around.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Eddi47d….and you seem to have your head in the sand and fail to understand basic human behavior.

      • Vigilant

        ontopic:

        I’ll tell you what I told Flashman: Science is never “settled” as the Gore-types would have you believe. When a scientist starts taking sides on any empirical question, he ceases to be a scientist and becomes just another political zealot.

        You may be ontopic but you’re offbase.

        • ontopic

          By “emprical”, I was referring to effects – you seem to be using “settled” in the sense of “causes”.

          It is “settled” that the earth revolves around the sun. Why it does so, in the context of all forces (grand unifying theory, etc.) is not settled.

          Perhaps you aren’t pushing back on the “existence” of climate change but rather the “causes”?

          Most posters here are pushing back on the “existence” and I maintain that will be settled in our lifetime.

          • a progressive nightmare

            the concept of science and basic maths skills eludes you, doesn’t it?

          • Vigilant

            Ontopic:

            You said “By “emprical” [sic], I was referring to effects – you seem to be using “settled” in the sense of “causes”.

            “Most posters here are pushing back on the “existence” and I maintain that will be settled in our lifetime.”

            Pushing back? Sorry, I have no ax to grind when it comes to this subject. Scientific theories have been continuously modified over the centuries and will continue to be so. The thrust of my comment was that no science is “settled,” regardless of whether we talk about effects OR causes.

            No one has ever challenged the idea that world climate changes over geological time. That’s not a theory, that’s a fact. The fault with people like Gore, et. al, is that they fancy themselves as authoritative or compelling when they repeat sweeping generalities as if it were settled science when in fact it is not.

            I would be as willing as the next guy to admit that mankind has a catastophic effect on climate change, if I could be shown compelling facts to support the claim. But, when the pseudoscientists at the UN and at East Anglia are shown to be the charlatans they are, I tend to discount ANY statements they make along those lines.

            You may very well be proven right in your assertion that the science of causes will be settled during our lifetimes. But that assertion can only be proven or disproven when “scientists” move away from being political cheerleaders and once again become scientists.

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, very well said.

          • 45caliber

            ontopic:

            A “theory” is an educated guess. Nothing more. That means it is not a law set down in granite.

            As I mentioned above, the difference in temperature between summer and winter is 50 degrees or more. The ONLY difference is due to the tilt of the earth. In the summer the location is less than 500 miles closer to the sun than it is in the winter. (You said you could do the math – go ahead.)

            To get a 1/2 degree change in temperature would mean that the surface of the sun would have to me only a couple of miles closer than it is before – and the surface of the sun constantly shifts. Solar flares can come hundred of thousand of miles closer to us, which also provides heat (and EMP).

            So trying to insist that a 1/2 degree difference in temp is going to destroy the world is hogwash.

            In fact, about 1896, Krackatoa blew up. The dust from this volcanic explosion lowered the world’s mean temperature by over 10 degrees for a number of years. Dust from that explosion is STILL in the atmosphere. If the change in temp was so critical, everything would be dead.

            Sorry, you are listening to junk science from people who make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year off of “researching” it.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Well said 45! Good to see another patriot with just plain ole common sense. These people spew this unfounded JUNK, that insults the adult mind, and don’t even have a clue their doing it. Pathetic!

            I understood enough about the planet, the sun and the solar system in the eight grade with math skills to debunk this crap then. They act as if the audience on this blog is about 6-8 years aged and dumber than a box of rocks. Must be the global gore desease? No wonder his wife left him. He probably drove her nuts with this childish-foolish crap!

          • ontopic

            @prog Scientific theories do indeed evolve/improve over time and are never “settled” in the sense you suggest (see wave/particle theory of light). And the word “theory” connotes much more than educated guess – it suggests a framework that can be rigorously/experimentally tested.

            None of this seems new to you but you can’t be suggesting that it’s possible the sun revolves around the earth? That point has been settled.

            When a scientific theory is modified/improved, it better explains all the related experiments/data that came previously – it doesn’t nullify them. The results of those experiments are settled only the causes are up for grabs.

            Our ability to have this discussion, in this forum is built upon settled science (harnessing electricity/chemical properties/etc) – Are you implicitly suggesting this conversation is merely a mental construct and someone will come along later to explain what our exchanges really represent?

        • old white guy

          refer to old white guy above.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Just did, good point.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think you might have wet your pants.

      • refuse2lose

        The only difference between GW and the other issues is that if Obama gets his cap and trade fiasco passed,it will destroy America.

        • 45caliber

          If he hasn’t done it already.

          • a progressive nightmare

            it’s being implemented through back-door tatics by the EPA. That’s another department that needs to go….dump it and start over with VERY stick guidelines of command and control by WE THE PEOPLE through our elected officials.

          • 45caliber

            One of the biggest problems is that Congress no longer really makes laws. Take a look at Oblamacare, for instance. They don’t set any real regulations – some agency is to be set up to do that.

            The EPA is the same. They say something in Congress such as “The EPA will establish chemical release values.”

            Then the EPA sets and changes them as desired by whatever group convinces them is a good idea sans science. And if you complain to Congress, you are generally told, “well, we REALLY didn’t mean for them to do that” … but they never come back to change it.

      • alpha-lemming

        Sorry to disagree but it IS a “right vs. left” thing. EVERYBODY knows the climate is in constant flux…. we’ve got records to prove it. It’s only the left that asserts 51%+ of the change is due to human activity/existence (a better descriptor would be the biosphere… aka ALL life of which human beings are a bit to mid-level player). I personally believe that humanity is responsible for some climate change…. to the tune of about 1 or 2%.

        • 45caliber

          alpha:

          I think one of the main reasons the left and right disagree about “climate change” is because of our basic beliefs. Most Christians believe in God being the mightiest force in existence. Those who aren’t religious believe MAN is the mightiest force. (Why, I don’t know. There is bound to be other intelligent races in existence – but that’s for another blog.)

          Christians are willing to admit that man really is insignificant. But those who believe in MAN are convinced that MAN causes all the changes in existence now.

          We are willing to admit that man might cause 1% but really is insignificant to the Earth. They can’t imagine that we are. So, to them, it is simply a matter of their “religion” that climate changes and everything else bad is due to man.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Yep and again, progressive-greens are the self-appointed saviors of the planet. A good set-up for worldy omnipotence.

    • Carole Howell

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      Aw….go on and do it.

    • SFC Townsend (R)

      Whatever happened to,”United We Stand”? When are the people of this nation going to stop the back-and-forth that keeps us apart, and begin to focus, together, on what REALLY matters: Keeping our country alive and well? What are the kinds of activiites that promote sustaining the natural resources, freedom, prosperity, and unbridled opportunity that made us a strong nation in the beginning? Which one of you knows George Bush, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi or Barrack Obama, OR knows what it takes to do any of their jobs? Or Sarah Palin, for that matter, although I see no evidence that SHE knows how to do ANY job. To all of you who love to see your own rantings in print I say, “Find solutions or please; just shut up”.

  • JeffH

    Ben, great great scribe with all of the right, er, should I say left points well covered. Like sc said, I really can’t add too much more other than Obama is a Marxist without some liberal hack getting their feelings hurt.

    I can one of the liberal hacks standing, hands on hips, telling me not to dis-respect the president. NOT!

    • JeffH

      I can just picture one of the liberal hacks standing at their pc, hands on hips, telling me not to dis-respect the president. NOT!

      • ontopic

        There should a distinction between the office of the president and the president himself.

        Case in point. A recorded speech from the president to school children on the importance of education is more about the latter than the former. And it’s not “indoctrination”. If there was something in the message of the speech which caused offense then this is okay to critique but just having the speech is not an offense. Taking issue with the fact there was a speech is disrespectful to the office of the president.

        Maybe this will help make the distinction: It is tradition that the president calls the Super Bowl winner to offer congratulations – that’s more a function of the office rather than the person. While I’m sure the president has a preferred winner on most occasions, it’s not as if that team has won each and every time.

        P.S. If they are standing at the PCs with “hands” on hips how are they “telling” you what to do? Is it the case that you post comments without typing? Or can you type while your hands are on your hips? (sounds awkward) – Anyways thanks for the mental image – my laugh for the day!

        • 45caliber

          Most of us respect the office of the President. But most of us here do NOT respect the man holding that office. Incidently, “President” when referring to the office is capitolized. You might want to remember that – if you respect it.

          • a progressive nightmare

            LOL!

          • eddie47d

            Then call Obama President Obama instead of all the other labels. You can disagree with his policies without the extreme name calling. Some on this site need to show some of that Presidential class instead of coming across as neanderthals climbing out of a cave.

      • JeffH

        ontopic, I don’t play by Alinsky’s rules..that’s for you guys and gals and I really have reached a point that I don’t care what you’ve got to say. The time for your kind of talk is over. I’ve no room in my parlor for Marxists, socialists or communists which clearly means there’s no room for you and your comrads.

        • JeffH

          Thought I’d offer a little lesson for you…ever hear of “speech recognition” software? Didn’t think so!

          • JeffH

            Jen, I’ve seen that you’ve used that word , narcissist, on more than one occasion. You’ve mis-used and confused the meaning. Prove what you accuse and don’t mistake my frontal attacks on some liberal hack as being narcissistic. I get my enjoyment from presenting the facts, not from the rhetoric of some liberal hack.

          • eddie47d

            She has you pegged! You get you’re enjoyment from slanderous “wise” cracks and dabble it in with selective “facts” from other right wing sites. You’re a classic narcissistic …..

          • JeffH

            Jen, you’ve accused me of being narcissistic and again I’ll say you need to get your facts straight. I said every bit of what I’m credited with and meant every word. The door swings both ways little mis-informed one. I’d like you to explain where I displyed my narcisissism othe than your mis-used version.

            nar·cis·sism  [nahr-suh-siz-em] Show IPA –noun 1. inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity. 2. Psychoanalysis . erotic gratification derived from admiration of one’s own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development.

          • JeffH

            Jen, Obama is a classic example of a pathological narcissists.

            Narcissus was an actor, as are all who succumb to his malady of self-obsession. Obama considers himself to be a star players on the world stage. The more grandiose the narcissist’s image, the bigger the lies required to protect it.
            Example: It is significant that Obama mock the Judeo-Christian tradition, because that tradition carries with it a standard of truth and conduct.
            Obama’s “world as it should be” will be one that glorifies the two-dimensional, backwards, grandiose, greedy idol-images of himself.

            Within that morally upside-down world, the walls protecting our republican government and our Judeo-Christian values will crumble — just as Obama said in Berlin that they must — and our people will be sacrificed to the false god of malignant narcissism.

          • JeffH

            Did Jen’s comments just disappear?

        • SFC Townsend (R)

          You said, “I don’t play by Alinsky’s rules..that’s for you guys and gals and I really have reached a point that I don’t care what you’ve got to say. The time for your kind of talk is over. I’ve no room in my parlor for Marxists, socialists or communists which clearly means there’s no room for you and your comrads”.

          I say to you, sir, that you are a seditionist; a citizen who opposes the foundations on which this great nation and its Constitution were built. Every voice must be heard. The substitute is tyranny. Mind your words (or for starts; why don’t you learn the definitions before using them).

  • Billy

    Don’t use the word Global at all, go back to WORLD WIDE.

    • dordor

      I agree… we should use our own terminology for climate change..it’s called seasons and it doesn’t cost anything.

      • ontopic

        No comment on the distinction between the terms seasons and climate but there is (as you imply) money at stake here.

        Why is it that Russia, US, Canada, Norway, and Denmark are all “debating” about who owns what in the Arctic? It’s because there is already enough credible evidence to suggest “using” this area will be increasing cost-effective. There’s no voters up there, only money.

        • 45caliber

          It’s called “black gold”.

          It is an interesting map too. Russia claims a lot – even over Alaska. Canada claims a lot. Iceland claims a little – and Denmark claims a lot. The US? Very little despite Alaska’s shores. I think Iceland claims more of it that the US does.

        • Carole Howell

          Global warming whether ‘man made’ ‘nature made’ or a combination of both is happening, it is a fact.

          • JeffH

            I thought it was Global colling or Climate change or is it still Global warming? Why do they keep confusing the people? Because they can!

          • JeffH

            “cooling”

          • independant thinker

            I would not say it is happening but rather it will happen. It was not so very long ago the scientist were worried about us entering another ice age. Now they are worried about the warm trend who can prove it will not enter another cooling spell next year.

            There are going to be fluctuations in the temperature trends both up and down no matter if we humans have any influence or not. The sunspot cycle affects our weather, the fluctuations in the earth’s orbit around the sun affect our weather, Volcanic activity affect our weather, and on and on.

            One other thought. If a super volcano such as yellowstone (which is due to explode based on average times between eruptions) did explode any concerns about global warming would be quickly forgotten in the aftermat and race to find and stockpile enough food to survive for 10 or so years.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Let’s see your facts.

          • 45caliber

            As someone else said: “Why do you believe someone who can’t predict what the weather will be tomorrow to tell you what it will be in a hundred years or more?”

  • valricoslash

    Ben. You left of “Its Bush’s fault.” from about half, but i liked them all.

  • Michael J.

    I get it, that’s a recipe for roasted dog, right?

  • George Williams

    The repackaging of global warming reminds me of the 1970′s. American Motors, hard hit by the gas crisis, had almost no money to retool to improve mechanicals to improve gas mileage. It did, however, manage to come up with enough cash to put opera windows and square headlights on its “Hornet” model — creating the “Concord!”

    “It’s not fast. It just sounds fast!”

    Changing from global warming to global climate disruption is not even retooling at all. It’s just changing the name plate.

    It’s too bad Ford didn’t change the name of the Edsel to something else in time to fool people into buying it.

    • Larry C.

      Hey George I love your post, but I have a better way to look at these losers. To me they are “Global-Whiners”. Whnever man tries to do the work of Almighty God we get into trouble, and that is what has happened ever since the man made garbage started.

      Larry C.

    • Pat

      Actually the 1958 Edsel was a pretty good car. My dad had one with over 300 horsepower. His buddy had a Ciatation with 410 cubic inch V-8 with three dueces that put out 400 horsepower. Now that was a fast car in 1958.NOt much could beat it in a drag race.

      • 45caliber

        I had a Ford Galaxy with over 400 hp. It could do all of 210 mph without a problem. Wish I could get a brand new one just like it. It was one of the largest cars on the road and it got better gas milage than most small cars do now.

      • independant thinker

        I had an AMC Javalin with a 290 V-8 and 3 speed manual that got better milage the faster you drove if you could drive a constant speed like on the interstate or long stretches on two lane roads.

        • independant thinker

          I should have said a 1969 Javalin

    • a progressive nightmare

      Yep! Kinda like changing the liberal label to progressive and then back again.

  • Larry C.

    Hello,
    Ben this is priceless, and I really mean that. I have never laughed so hard. These are just but a few of the thousands of LIBERAL quacks out there that deserve to be made over, and I know like you said bandwidth does not allow for such a list. When will people wake up? I am so happy that some already have, and that is what the Tea-Party is all about. May God help America before it is to late.

    Larry C.

  • Pat

    Good job Ben. But, I think “it is Bush’s fault should have been both the first and the last item on all the lists.It is the very essence of the Democratic party’s mantra !

    • eddie47d

      I thought it was the Republicans playing the blame Clinton mantra we heard for 7 long years.

      • Brad

        That’s Obama and company’s main platform, blame bush for the woes of the country. Obama signed 787 billion stimulus, HCR, Financial reform, Take over of Sallie Mae, cash for clunkers and other bills he’s signed into law that add to the national deficit. So why can’t Obama stand up and take credit for his actions today, because he knows it has caused more harm than good, it’s going to cost yours and my kids and grandchildren before this mess is paid for.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Focusing on the problems..IMHO a waste of Time.

    Focusing on the solution..desperately needed. If you think that NOV is a solution, your going to be sorely disappointed.

    If a candidate is OK with the Federal Reserve or doesnt know that its a Private Bank..dont vote for them.

    If a candidate is OK with Corporate welfare it’ll be obvious…hes on a major ticket which is supported and endorsed by Corporate interests. A vote for them is a Vote Against we the people

    If a candidate supports 1 amendment but mentions nothing of the others, there’s your sign….another OBAMA. Dont Vote for them, they are playong to special Interests

    If a candidate cant tell you why Afganistan & Iraq are Illegal, then they dont understand the English language used in the Constitution. Dont Vote for a candidate that doesnt Understand the Constitution they will swear an OATH to!

    • 45caliber

      The Dems get more from corporations and give back to them more than the GOP. Further, if a candidate is in favor of individual welfare (including Oblamacare) he should be rejected.

  • http://Pennteledata Ozzyboy

    Totally enjoyed this column but….. you left out Madam Baba Bowser in SF, whom the SF chronicle has refused to endorse after years of endorsing the leftists. Ma’am, “could you say fired instead of hired? we’ve worked very hard to get rid of her”………..May the people of SF show their intelligence and get rid of her!
    Tea Party people are just America Loving Patriots!!!

  • Disgusted

    This article was great! Laughed out loud! One more for Pelosi: I am so full of s@#t, my eyes are brown!
    Global Warming is such a hoax. I think our government scientists are messing with out atmosphere, causing problems and then trying to blame the effects on “global warming”. Check out the HAARP project. I think our government is messing with things that are too big for their britches – not telling us about what the real side effects are and trying to cover it up. I know it sounds conspiracy theory, but it would be just like them!

    • Disgusted
      • Conservative at Birth

        What a bunch of B.S.

    • 45caliber

      Actually, I think if she smiled, her face would break due to all the plastic surgery and Botox.

      • Disgusted

        That was pretty hateful. I am only concerned that our government is playing with power they can’t control. The HAARP project is real. The only question is what is the government using it for? Weather control – create a devastating storm in Afganistan remotely instead of doing something in the open? We should all be questioning what the government has spent millions of our tax dollars on and the public is being given no knowledge of it.
        Why is it that you have to resort to insults? With people like you I am beginning to understand why our country is in the place it is in. Useless name calling and insults is your only repertoire.

      • Disgusted

        Sorry for the rant – I see you were speaking of Pelosi, not me. Sorry.

        • 45caliber

          No problem. I haven’t seen you and I don’t insult people on looks unless they are REALLY bad. Pelousy is.

  • JimH

    Give it a different name and it’s better? Sight impared is still blind, collateral damage is still dead, exotic dancer- stripper, gentlemans club- strip joint, choice- mother killing her own baby,Democrat- zombie. Just read the title of some of the bills in congress and read what they REALLY mean.

    • Raggs

      Yeah but nobody ever reads the bills in congress they just backdoor pass them into law.

    • 45caliber

      JimH:

      You aren’t supposed to read them! Even the Congressmen don’t. Once they are passed and given to some agency, the agency writes down what it means. And it is plain (to the liberals)that normal human beings can’t understand what is written. It’s like the 2nd Amendment! Imagine believing that it means you can own and carry a gun! Obviously it doesn’t. But since you aren’t a liberal, you can’t understand that.

      • SFC Townsend (R)

        I was just looking at how big the government has become, which is obviously part of some liberal, progressive, tax and spend conspiracy; right? Went to the Personal Liberty Digest, and read an article by Chip Wood, where he quoted the Declaration of Independence, talking about, “commissions, buraucratic monstrosities or other meddlesome agencies that harass our people and eat out their substance” (talking about King George). He compared those to our current, bloated goverment. Looking at those agencies, I see the Dept of Ag was created under Abe Lincoln in 1862, Eisenhower; the Dept of Health and Human Services which was finally split under Carter in 1979 and is now 3 Depts: Housing, Education and Health, and finally; Homeland Security (Bush-2003). All Republicans. All “conservatives”. Yeah. Right. Whose side is who on?

  • Mark

    Very Good. The cowards just change the name of something instead of admitting the wrong. That global warming crap made an idiot like Gore richer. Man will never change what God controls. Speaking of changing names, Combat was taken out of the names of many Army units and replaced by Advisory. Big idiot T.V. shows a few troops leaving Irag, but the majority of the same troops are still in Irag doing exactly what they have been doing, fighting insurgents and dieing. While this idiot kenyan imposter thinks he is swimming in success by taking the combat troops out of Irag. All that idiot did was take combat out of the name of our troops, and that stuff he is swimming in, is hog sewage run-off.

    • 45caliber

      Gore discovered a company that produces equipment to remove CO2 from the air. The only trouble is that it costs billions to install. Due to his contacts in Washington, if he can get them to pass a law stating that CO2 has to be removed from plant exhausts, that company would become one of the richest in the world. So he bought up a lot of stock and now pushes that in an effort to get the people to believe his hogwash and give the government permission to do it. If they do, he will become richer than Bill Gates who – the last I heard – was worth over $80 billion.

      And his friends in Washington are in favor of it because they expect Gore to give them millions in “reelection” campaign funds.

      • Jim H.

        45caliber, I found something that removes co2 from the air. It’s called a tree. Just plant an acorn.

        • 45caliber

          That’s what I tell every person I meet who is worried about CO2. In fact, a single large oak tree will take care of all the CO2 you can put out in your life.

          Further, there is enough trees in Brazil, Siberia, or the NW US for each area to take care of all CO2 now. CO2 is a mock threat originated by Gore so he can make billions of dollars selling equipment to industry IF he can convince enough people to let the government require the equipment.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Correct and another interesting fact is, there are more trees in American NOW than they were 100 years ago. I guess that has contributed to our “Global Warming”? LOL!

      • independant thinker

        What is the name of the company? I might buy a couple of shares just in case he is able to convince enough people and get his agenda passed.

        • Disgusted

          Probably a good idea considering the man won a Nobel Peace Prize based on nothing but bulls$it. Oh and don’t forget he invented the internet, got give the man props don’t ya.

    • eddie47d

      Kinda like Nixon taking credit for winning the Vietnam War, Not!

      • Brad

        Obama will have all US troops out of Iraq by end of summer next year, is it right some agree some don’t. Did Nixon bring US troops home from Vietnam, yes he did, but it was the unjust excelleration of combat troops sent to South Vietnam by JFK and LBJ in turn which caused the death of 58,195 Americans. All in the name of preventing the spread of communism. Look at the out come, a political war where the military had their hands tied, the politicians calling the shots instead of their military commanders. DO we still have combat troops in Iraq today, we sure in the hell do, but there advisers and they train local police and Iraqi Army units and assist local Iraqi units when asked.

        • eddie47d

          You’r right,the Vietnam War never should have been. Shame on Johnson for escalating it and he knew he made a mistake when he dropped out of the Preidential race. Nixon promised to end the war and even called Johnson out on that. But he didn’t and there wasn’t any of his phony “peace with Honor” for there was no honor in our getting involved to begin with. Remember Ford was President when the war ended and Nixon was a Tricky con before Ford took over.

          • JeffH

            Wrong again…Tricky Dick Nixon officially ended direct U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

            On January 15, 1973, citing progress in peace negotiations, Nixon announced the suspension of all offensive actions against North Vietnam, to be followed by a unilateral withdrawal of all U.S. troops. The Paris Peace Accords on “Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam” were signed on January 27, officially ending direct U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_the_United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War

  • Norm

    Ben
    What a pile of crap.
    You’re IQ, or lack thereof, is definitely showing. It takes a lot of b-lls to sign your name to such garbage.

    • Brad

      Normy,

      So what’s your point, oh that’s right you have to ridicule someones opinion because it doesn’t fit how you feel. At least Ben stands up for what he thinks is right and is protected by the 1st amendment go figure.

      • 45caliber

        Actually he ridicules it because he can’t even think of a proper response. That is one of the liberals’ three ways of talking.

        • eddie47d

          Jeff H. does that to me all the time Caliber with his half-wit responses. So is that typical of those on this site?

          • JeffH

            Like I’ve said before fast eddie, you just make it so easy. I didn’t start all of this with you, you did many months ago. That’s just the fact of the matter. But you have to admit, even just a little bit, that I’m not the only one to do so. That big target called your brain just begs for ridicule every time it commands you to say something stupid.

            Try stating something of fact and I’d let up on you. Every time you’re asked to provide the facts you run off like a gazelle in a lion attack.

          • Brad

            Eddie when your wrong your just plain old wrong, you need to screw your thinking cap back on my friend.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie, I suggest you go back to the top of the page and re-read all of your factless dribble and then all of the reponses you have recieved. Without any credibility whatsoever you cannot begin to fend off the critisizm directed at you. Wake up man! I don’t think you’re a bad guy or the typical liberal hack, you’re just not smart enough for that. Educate yourself more and you just might be surprised. You might even get a little respect now and then.

          • eddie47d

            Don’t worry Jeff, I’m not looking for your respect for you have none to give.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie, likewise I’m sure. I certainly don’t expect any intellectual miracles with your brain either.

          • eddie47d

            LOL

    • JeffH

      Normy. but you just keep coming back for more. Kinda like a good drug, huh?

    • eddie47d

      Brad; Ben does not stand up for what he thinks is right. He mocks everything and anything. He is playing us all and gets paid for it. Oh, Wise one.

  • Kevin Beck

    Would that 2-pack-a-day smoker really make it even to the 10th mile of the Marathon?

    As an add-on to the list: Jimmy Carter. His new mottos could be:
    1. At least I’m no longer the worst President of the last 40 years;
    2. It’s all Ted Kennedy’s fault!

    • Casey in Texas

      Im to young to remember much of J. Carter. I was born in ’72. I come from a strong union democrat family both sides so my opinion is considered very stupid one to them. Makes for great Thanksgiving dinners. Anyway, its puzzling to me that Carter waits until Ted Kennedy dies to come out with the blame game on him? What like 30 years later to say something wasnt his fault? What a pu$$!! Or was he really scared that he might end up in a river? I hear it over and over again that the right has no ideas. Yes we do in fact or ideas are 220-235 years old. We arent the progressives ones! We think the country how it was orginally founded is just fine with us. We belive it wasnt broke so why did progressives try to fix it? They want two classes in the world. The ruling class and the peasants. One thing is for sure all liberals, democrats, progressives, or whatever they want to call themselves, do is blame other people for there mistakes. Kinda of like Carter blaming Kennedy that is funny! You would think they didnt come from the same party!!! Why didnt he blame someone else on the right?? That dude is an idiot. The other thing progressives do in a debate is talk over you. They dont come with anything they just try to drown you out. Then when you finally prove them wrong after about 3 hours of debate. They simple say Im not going to argue with you! And run and hide. Just like all these liberal/progressives/democrats do on here. On global whatever, I thought it was acid rain destroying the world, I mean global cooling, whatever the left tries to use as scare tatics to get their aggenda passed they will use. Well, it doenst work to us Right wing radical Christians, because we know who has control over everything and that person decides when it is over no one else!!! That person is GOd!! I dont think that progressives even belive in GOD at least not the one that i belive in. We will have change and its coming in Novemeber. Just a reminber to registar voters if you are inactive in voting then you lose your registration. I found that out last election. Thanks Clinton!! Why did they make that law?

      • 45caliber

        Don’t worry. You didn’t miss much by missing Carter.

        • SFC Townsend (R)

          Mr. Carter accomplished over ninety percent of his goals in his short time in office. He is much maligned by the opinings of individuals who have no real knowledge of the economic, military and political events of his term. Presidents, as a whole, do not rule tyrannically in the United States, but act as one part of a whole, including not only the other two-thirds of our three-part, federal government but industrial, corporate, and citizen influences, as well as the international community and acts of God. Most of the world agrees, however, that Mr. Carter continued to pursue his goals after leaving office, and has had a noticebly positive impact in terms of international negotiations and efforts to combat the effects of poverty.

  • http://Soverenty!Freedom! Blondi 2

    Speaking of makeovers,now that Al Gore is their poster great,not.Remember when he was running for president?Every time we saw him he had a different look.He looked like a little girl playing dressup.And remember John Kerry wind surfing and oh that great hunter shot.These guys think we are the fools and we think they are rediculous.I read an email that showed the last 20 presidents that had cabinet members that had actually had a real job,the lowest was 30 and the higest was 57.Obamas’ cabinet has 8 people who have actually had a real job or never had to make a payroll. All of his cabinet members are aaacademics.Yes I did that on purpose.They have never had a real job. These are people who cowdown students in their classrooms.What was that ole saying.”People who can’t do teach”,or something like that.Anyway they don’t know anything about real life.All of their paychecks have come from the government,or colleges.All they know is numbers and words on paper,no experience in real life.They were either in leftist orginizations,colleges or government. And now they know how to tell us how to live,when they have never had to make it from paycheck to paycheck.They were guarenteed a paycheck every week no matter what.No wonder they are so out of touch with the rest of the world.They need to hear what my grandfather used to say,”Without common sense,all the book learning in the world will just make a smartelic fool.”

    • 45caliber

      “People who can, do; people who can’t, teach.”

      • dahni uru

        and people who can’t teach, teach teachers! Opps, that would be me!

      • s c

        45 caliber, the expression is “Those who can, do.” To that, add ‘those who can’t, teach’ [and] ‘those who can’t teach (will) teach phys ed.’ To round it out to its extreme, you could say ‘Those who can’t teach phys ed (will) become politicians or career criminals.’

        • dahni uru

          I believe they have to be lawyers first, don’t they?

          • 45caliber

            No. Oblama, for instance, supposedly graduated with a law degree but never passed the bar to practice it. His wife did – but lost that right a few years ago. No one is saying why.

    • independant thinker

      “and oh that great hunter shot.”

      I wish he had pulled the trigger during that shot. He would have broken something and the explanations (excuses) would have been hilarious.

      • SFC Townsend (R)

        A check of the State of Illinois Bar Association website shows no bar
        license for “Michelle Robinson” or “Michelle Obama”.

    • SFC Townsend (R)

      Okay Jeff. Here’s what I do; read what biased bloggers (of all political persuasions) write, do the research, and respond factually. According to the records, you are incorrect. At Homeland Security, Obama appointed the gov of AZ whose efforts to combat illegal immigration included cracking down on employers who hire illegals, forgers who sell fake ID, and deterence at border crossings. At Interior, there’s a farmer and private sector lawyer who was a member of the House and the Senate for awhile. At Defense, he’s got a guy who worked his way from entry level to become CIA Director, and was former president of TX A&M. At Education is the former CEO of the 3rd largest school system in the US. The Attorney General was appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan. Others include the former governors of Washingon State and of Iowa. Facts, buddy. Learn some.

    • SFC Townsend (R)

      Here’s what I do; read what biased bloggers (of all political persuasions) write, do the research, and respond factually. According to the records, you are incorrect. At Homeland Security, Obama appointed the gov of AZ whose efforts to combat illegal immigration included cracking down on employers who hire illegals, forgers who sell fake ID, and deterence at border crossings. At Interior, there’s a farmer and private sector lawyer who was a member of the House and the Senate for awhile. At Defense, he’s got a guy who worked his way from entry level to become CIA Director, and was former president of TX A&M. At Education is the former CEO of the 3rd largest school system in the US. The Attorney General was appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan. Others include the former governors of Washingon State and of Iowa. Facts, buddy. Learn some.

  • Santi

    Hey flashman are you smoking HASHIES. No no just blame it on Bush.

  • http://Yahoo Anne Crickenberger

    I believe this should be put into a book because it is so true. When you read this stuff it is hard to see that these people are actually this idiotic and stupid and they believe the average person is too “stupid” to not see how ridiculous they are. These educated fruitcakes think they have the answer to everything but they are just over-educated stupid people.

  • Raggs

    Ben… Good article….

    There are sevral things that can be added but as you said you can write a book on this subject…

    I just wonder if the Baffoons see themselves as clearly as we do?
    I don’t know about anyones else but if I had done things this administration is doing I would not be able to look at myself in the mirror or face people one on one.

    • 45caliber

      But Raggs: You have some common sence. They didn’t have any of it in the beginning. And you can’t learn common sense. You have it or you don’t.

  • Vigilant

    “Global Climate Disruption?” Is that supposed to be a euphemism?

    Reminds me of the truism: calling an illegal alien an “undocumented worker” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist.”

  • Marc

    Watch these people in the “saving the Earth”business and making millions.
    It is Gore’s only science.You never hear of Milankovitch cycles that are the first reason why climat is changing,as it has done from the beginning and will be doing for ever.We are ants on this Earth and it will continue on it’s journey well after we are gone.To understand more go to see Maurice Strong on internet.

    • Denniso

      Natural climate cycles occur over thousands or millions of yrs, not usually a hundred or 2. This debate is typical of our modern culture where many people w/ NO real training or education think they know better than the highly trained and skilled in society, because they listen to some fool like Limbaugh telling them that something isn’t true. The same thing is going on w/ the economy…buffoons like Beck and Savage encouraging part of the public to think they know more than PHD economists…ridiculous.

      I wonder how many of the global warming deniers and people who think they know exactly what to do about the economy, also don’t believe in evolution?

      Science isn’t always right, it’s always a work in progress based upon
      evidence and experiment and study…but it’s usually more right than
      the uneducated mob trying to shout the facts down for political or religious reasons.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Boy, what an “Educated” comment.

      • 45caliber

        Denniso:

        Wrong. Climate changes frequently. Most climate change depends upon the sun. One climatologist stated a couple of years ago that the last 100 years or so of our climite has been very unusual in climate terms in that it has been somewhat stable and therefore possible to predict it. His comment was that climate is normally NOT predictable, changing frequently, and that we are going back to the natural state. His whole point was that predictable climate is the basis for most agriculture today. We need to expect the unexpected climate and plant more crops to make up for those that don’t do well.

        The last several years has seen the sun being fairly stabile. Astronomers now say that there is increased sun-spot activity and that this activity is one of the things that governs our climate. And it’s on about a 7 year cycle – not millions of years.

        You might wish to turn your tv back to Oprah and forget trying to pass yourself off as a scientist.

        • eddie47d

          What about all the Conservative “scientists” on this site? So many experts and so little facts.

          • JeffH

            The Lord knows you know about so little about the facts. You never have any.

          • eddie47d

            Jeff=Boring!

          • 45caliber

            Actually, I’m a mechanical engineer but they require engineers to have a lot of science and math. I once figured that if I took 9 more hours of math and 12 more hours of science I could earn two more degrees … except the colleges require 32 hours for another degree.

        • Denniso

          Astronomers are scientists…climate scientists are as well. If most credentialed astronomers think that sun activity is causing warming then why wouldn’t they talk to their fellow climate scientists and tell them the breaking news, then the scientific community would mostly agree that warming is not caused by man. The problem w/ your theory is that most climate scientists agree that warming is human caused or at least made worse by us.

          I’m and engineer w/ many courses in science…I don’t claim to be a scientist which is why I generally give the benefit of the doubt to real scientists who spend their lives and everyday working on the problem. In the same way, if a knowledgeable plumber gives me advice on a plumbibg issue, I tend to trust him.

          • independant thinker

            “If most credentialed astronomers think that sun activity is causing warming then why wouldn’t they talk to their fellow climate scientists and tell them the breaking news, then the scientific community would mostly agree that warming is not caused by man.”

            I have read many articles and seen many science programs stating just that but they never gets any “press”.

          • Denniso

            No, most astronomers are not global warming deniers, and in the scientific community ‘press’ is not what determines the truth…rather
            it is preponderance of evidence and debate and experiment that gete to the truth. Scientists don’t get into press wars unless they believe
            in a majority that an issue is crucial enough to try to alert the public to get them motivated to do something about it. They seldom wage PR battles in the press against disenting views…that happens in peer reviewed journals and symposia.

          • a progressive nightmare

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Vigilant

        Denniso:

        To parody your one-sided post:

        Natural climate cycles occur over thousands or millions of yrs, not usually a hundred or 2. This debate is typical of our modern culture where many people w/ NO real training or education think they know better than the highly trained and skilled in society, because they listen to some fool like Al Gore telling them that something isn’t true. The same thing is going on w/ the economy…buffoons like Olberman ans Maddow encouraging part of the public to think they know more than PHD economists…ridiculous.

        I wonder how many of the global warming advocates and people who think they know exactly what to do about the economy, also believe in evolution?

        Science isn’t always right, it’s always a work in progress based upon
        evidence and experiment and study…but it’s usually more right than
        the uneducated mob trying to shout the facts down for political or profiteering reasons.”

        Moral: IT CUTS BOTH WAYS, SON.

      • Jim H.

        Hi Denniso, Is my cousin, who is a professional meteorologist qualified to have an opinion, or would he just be a “denier” too? I doubt he listens to Beck or Savage either. He just studies meteorology for a living.

        • Denniso

          Hey JimH…everyone can have an opinion,but shouldn’t it be based upon the best science and evidence,rather than emotion or politics?
          If your cousin is a highly trained Meteorologist then he should understand the problem more so than the average layperson. But,it’s also possible that he may allow his political feelings weigh in where they shouldn’t. That’s why any scientific theory or knowledge has to have,over time,a preponderance of evidence on it’s side and a majority
          of scientists as well. It’s pretty tough to have 100% of all scientists agree, but 75-80% starts looking good.

          Like I asked in another post here, how many of the global warming deniers also refuse to accept one of the strongest scientific theories around, evolution? There is virtually NO scientific debate about it,other than details and timing,yet something like 1/2 of Americans don’t believe it. Doesn’t that make you wonder about the people who deny both theories?

          • Jim H.

            Hi Denniso, If my cousin let politics rule his thinking, he would not think the way he does. He grew up in a house hold that was staunch Democrat. When it comes to meteorology that has been his passion since he was in middle school. Politics wouldn’t over rule his objectivity. He does say there is a lot of grant money out there to study global warming, so maybe he does have a healthy skepticism going there.

          • Denniso

            Does he think that humans are not responsible at all for global warming?

          • Jim H.

            Hi Denniso, His conclusion is the climate is changing naturally. It isn’t man made. Since he has more resources and education to draw on than I do, I consider him to be a valid source. ( He is family ,so I may be a little bias)

          • Denniso

            The way science works, he could be right, but it’s highly unlikely. Almost all well trained climate scientists think,w/ evidence to support it,that humans are responsible for at least part of climate change,if not all of it. I think it’s good for science to debate issues,but when there is an almost total consensus the time for debate
            is done. The debate isn’t just some abstract scientific problem,it’s about the future of human life on earth. Even some people who don’t know or believe in human caused warming want to be safe,since the stakes are so high,and think we should err on the cautious side and curtail greenhouse gases. Wouldn’t that be the ‘conservative’ thing to do? Less risky than doing nothing and waiting to see if we boil away?

          • Jim H.

            Hi Denniso, Just for fun let’s kick around some ideas on global warming. I don’t know where you get your stats from, 75 to 80% consensus, are you sure it’s that high? Consensus doesn’t mean fact. The consensus WAS the earth is flat and the sun revolved around it. I hear no one has proved that global warming is not man made, on the other hand no one has proved that it is. If some one proved we caused it, how we caused it, and what to do to correct it, the grant money stops.(yes, I’m a skeptic) I understand erring on the side of caution. If the rapids look to rough, I portage my canoe even if I might be able to make it. I may be able to absorb the extra cost for my energy use, but some of the poor may not. I can’t afford my cost and to help subsidize theirs too. Carbon offsets are a joke, It didn’t stop the footprint, someone just paid money to make one. I hear about people being taxed and fined for creating green house gasses. Who gets the tax and fine money? Are they going to use it to find real solutions or just build another bureaucracy? Throwing money at something doesn’t solve everything. I know my cousin has the resources and education needed to use those resources, to come to an educated conclusion, just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t make them any less valid.

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    AND IT GOES ON………………………

    VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

    AP – WASHINGTON D.C. -
    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
    This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…

    LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !

    Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

    While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

    So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

    And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

    The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

    Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
    A : Yes, by his own admission.

    Q: What passport did he travel under?
    A: There are only three possibilities.
    1) He traveled with a U.S. .. Passport,
    2) He traveled with a British passport, or
    3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

    Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
    A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

    Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

    If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

    Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

    Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

    If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.

    If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!

    • dahni uru

      Ummm…I believe there is proof that Obama attended Occidental College in 1979-81, Frosh and Soph years, as Barack Obama. I’m not yet sure I believe he is an American Citizen, but this seems to be a false rumor.

      • 45caliber

        Actually he did attend then but as Barry Soetoro. And his time there was paid for by Indonesia as one of their citizens.

    • VMC

      This person continues to spread false and old news on this site. If you idiots can, you should bar him from the site. If you google just Occidental College Transcripts, you will find that this message has been going around since early 2009, and the entire thing is just plain bunk. It has been proven time and again to be FALSE. James Graham is a liar, if he actually exists!

  • Conservative at Birth

    This humorous article would make me laugh, except for the fact that it is not a laughing matter. It is and has been very serious for over 100 years. The attempt to enslave the human race completely is nearly complete. The impending violence will take many lives. Be prepared is the only advice I can give. Unfortunately most of the voting population is oblivious to what is happening, and as proven in the election of 2008 can easily be swayed by slogans and hype ( Hope and Change.) I always ask those I know voted for Obama: How is that Hope and Change going for you now?

    • ontopic

      ‘Conservative at Birth’ has a problem with slogans – isn’t that somewhat ironic?

      Is your name somehow trying to lay claim to the pro-closed thinker movement. Your moniker suggests you had no choice in the matter and furthermore are stuck with it.

      Have you never changed your stance on any issue ever? You were right on WMDs right from the get-go? Should Russia have ever been an ally? And (my meme today) did none of your ancestors, assuming your trait is hereditary, think the earth revolved around the sun?

      • 45caliber

        I think you have the wrong idea of what conservative means too. Conservatives consider something and look for both good and bad in it. They use “learned experience” – either their own or someone else’s – to determine whether the newly suggested idea will work or not. Unfortunately, to the progressive/liberals, their ideas have all been tried somewhere at least once – and most of them have failed.

        Einstien said that the insane believe that you expect to get different results when you do the same thing over again. And the progressives do believe that.

        Oblamacare has been tried (and is still used) in most of Europe. Socialism/Communism has been tried throughout the world. And all of it has failed. So why do you all believe it will work now in our country?

        • eddie47d

          Come on Caliber,you sometimes are full of yourself. Thomas Edison worked on the light bulb over and over again and it took years and years to find an idea that worked. If you don’t succeed the first time try try again, and that’s true with every theory or invention. Climate change is a work in progress and all the answers are not there,but that does not mean it isn’t happening.

          • Brad

            Then Eddie if it’s not happening prove that it is happening, prove that global warming is happening?

          • eddie47d

            The industrial age has been proven with core samples drilled in the Antarctic and how much of their pollution is flowing around the world.It’s like carbon dating. Most of the Glacier National Park glacier have melted during this same period.(150,down to 21).One third of Artic ice has melted in a short period of time(10 years).To the best of modern man’s knowledge all these changes are unprecedented. Most of the world’s climate changes in the past took hundreds and thousands of years (even millions). So this rapid change we are experiencing is different and needs to be addressed. Not if or when but how?

          • 45caliber

            eddie, my boy! Yes, old Tom did work on light bulbs for years – but he did NOT do the same thing over and over!! That is the problem with the lefties. They simply do not understand the differences between scientific research and insanity.

          • 45caliber

            Climate change takes thousands and millions of years? Not hardly! Research Krackatoa. It was a volcanic island that blew up about 1896. We had a mini ice age because of the dust that went up in the air – and it still isn’t all gone. Research mammoths found in the ice in Alaska and Siberia. Climate change again – in a VERY short time!

          • a progressive nightmare

            45…you’re wasting your time. None of these progressives understand basic science or math. With them, if you say something enough times, then it becomes science and facts, only in a liberal mind.

            The fact is, and as I stated to Flashpan, if man is so powerful, then why did we not prevent Mt. St. Hellens from erupting? Debris from Mt. St Helens was evident in the atmosphere all the way to the east coast!

            The fact is, if the ring of fire in the pacific were to have a chain reaction it would probably be an (ELE)extension level event for mandkind. These progressives with an IQ of an ameba better get to working on this problem quickly or we are DOOMED. LOL!

            I wonder what would happen if the ring of fire were to erupt?
            I bet it would get hot as hell, don’t you? Then, once the sun is blotted out for a period of YEARS, I would suggest we would go back into another ICE AGE. I wonder how this VERY POSSIBLE event fits into our progressive “gods of the planet” climate models? LOL!

          • eddie47d

            Thank you Caliber for using the words climate change with Krackatoa.Whether it’s volcanos or man made pollution it’s still climate change and has the same effect. The earth will change enough on it’s own without deliberately doing the same thing.

        • Karolyn

          have you talked to any people in Europe about their healthcare systems? I have, and everyone I’ve talked to seems to be pretty happy about it. That includes Danes, Dutch and Germans.

          • 45caliber

            I’ve talked to both English and Canadians. Neither like it. One Englishman told me it took up to three days AFTER your appointment to see a doctor since a lot of Welfare people use it as a form of entertainment. For emergencies, he pays the doctor about $250 a month just to see him fast – and has to pay 100% of the cost. It figures to paying for insurance here – except here the insurance company will pick up at least 80% of the cost. Many Canadians come to the US for medical aid because their system is so bad.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Yep, matter of fact, I have, they tell me it SUCKS!

      • Vigilant

        Ontopic:

        As your name implies, you should stay on topic, instead of using the forum as a hit-and-run insulter. In case you forgot, the topic is global climate disruption.

    • Karolyn

      I still believe in hope and change, despite what anyone says. Unfortunately, though, many go into politics with grand visions, they are thwarted when they get there. Have you noticed how gray Obama’s getting? Most Presidents by their second year are graying at a rapid rate.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        I still believe in Santa Claus but that doesn’t make it fact.

  • Mark L.

    It would be nice if you would research and find out what the word LIBERAL really means with regard to American political system. You and the people on the left are completely misusing the word. Please research to what these “scholars” refer to as classical liberalism.
    After you do, hopefully just as I, you will stop using LIBERAL to describe the big government statists and just call them progressives or socialists.

    Lets face it, the root of the word liberal, is liberty and people who subscribe to the philosophy of government control over most of the aspects of individual rights are not for liberty. If anything these people are antiberals.

    • Denniso

      I’m a Liberal and believe in as much freedom as possible and as little gov’t control and regulation as practical. I believe that we,everyone on earth,are all in this together and if we don’t look out for one another and the health of the very earth that sustains us,
      we all suffer. I believe that every human should have the right to live a humane and rewarding life and that none should be considered expendable…I don’t think that the billions of poor and less fortunate born into misery should be canon fodder or slave labor for the wealthy and comfortable. I’m a Liberal and proud of it.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Denniso, Well put! Good for you! Just leave me out of your ideolgy. You want freedom of choice, so do I.

        I would suggest you give all your money to whomever you please. Leave my beliefs in GOD, my family, my life, my wife, my children to me. Deal? Fact is, We are doing just fine(Always have…it is the power of the family thing and the GOD THING) and we help every person we can without any direction from you or your all-omnipotent ideolgy.

        Thank you for being honest for a change. I respect that.

        • Denniso

          You want freedom of choice? Then you agree that a woman should have control over her own body,as it should be her free choice?

          Do you think that supposed moralists should be able to tell you that you can’t grow a weed,dry it, roll it up and smoke it in the privacy
          of your home? And that if you do, you go to jail if caught?

          Should the gov’t be able to tell you that you can’t fly to Cuba for a vacation? Freedom?

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso said “You want freedom of choice? Then you agree that a woman should have control over her own body,as it should be her free choice?

            Sure! Do whatever your little heart desires, just don’t ask me to PAY FOR IT or the taxpayers to pay for it! Your payment will come later. In other words, you can get high and have ten sex partners and 10 illegitimate babies and it is of no consequence to me until the government tells me that I HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR BAD BEHAVIOR.

            “Do you think that supposed moralists should be able to tell you that you can’t grow a weed,dry it, roll it up and smoke it in the privacy
            of your home? And that if you do, you go to jail if caught?”

            Again, have at it! Your choice! If fact, roll you up a monster joint and have an affair with a billy goat or a gang of billy goats, if that is what floats your boat. Just don’t expect me or all the other taxpayers to pay for your resulting bad health and social deseases. If you get caught driving while intoxicated or selling DOPE to our KIDS, then you should be put in jail. In other words, when your bad “Dope” behavior begins to negatively affect others, then yes, we have an issue.

            Should the gov’t be able to tell you that you can’t fly to Cuba for a vacation? Freedom?”

            Sure thing, fly over their now and stay, I invite you too.

            Bottom line Denniso, I could care less if you go outside and pound sand up your axx. It’s your business until you make it MY business, and if MY money is involved, then that makes it MY business!!!

            You want to set your own lifestyle standards regardless of the resulting bad health consequences, then do it, just don’t expect others to pay for YOUR BAD DECISIONS in life. If you don’t want to work and smoke dope all day, then STARVE, have at it.

            We making any “progress” here yet?

            Bottom line, this is why we object to this progressive-marxist nanny state mentality. We do not want to pay for others bad behavior or bad decisions in life nor do we want to be involved with your BAD behavior.

          • eddie47d

            WOW! I can agree with both Denniso and P. Nightmare. Isn’t life good!

          • JeffH

            progressive nightmare, that was very precise and simple explanation. Thanks and keep up the good fight fellow patriot.

          • Denniso

            Nightmare…we’re aren’t talking about MY behavior,since I don’t drink,smoke, or use any drugs,even prescription drugs.

            You think because I am talking about the principle of freedom in aspects that may be considered negative to some, that I’m promoting
            that behavior or do it myself…wrong. Real freedom is not just allowing those things that you or I or the majority approve of, that’s easy,granting people the right to do what we think is right. The test of freedom is allowing that which we despise.

            Millions of Americans engage in bad behavior,that is legal, every day and it costs you and everyone else tax money and higher insurance premiums. Careless drivers,smokers,drinkers,people eating lousy foods,divorce that impoverishes kids,extreme risk takers….All legal activities that cost us all money one way or another.

            So,to argue that restricting freedoms is OK if it saves you money is absurd,since so much legal behavior also costs taxpayers money. You sound like some extreme liberals who want to outlaw everthing that is
            bad for people and therefore society in general as well as an expense to society.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso…. What? Your progressive babling lost me?

            Let me simplify this for you. I don’t care what YOU do as long as I AM NOT FORCED TO PAY FOR IT or if it does not have a negative impact on me or my family.

            It’s simple, self-reliance, financial independence and FREEDOM from the negative life-styles of others.

            Cut out the nanny-state funding of BAD BEHAVIOR and you will get GOOD BEHAVIOR as a result of that action. Have your every raised any children??? Reward them for BAD behavior and it only cultivates MORE bad behavior. Punish them for BAD behavior and you will get improved behavior patterns.

            What I would really like to see, is for us to return to our ROOTS of Freedom where people take responsibility for their OWN actions AND mind their OWN BUSINESS!

      • Doug

        Really now and your idols like Obama and Peolosi give a rats ass about anyone but themselves????? You really are out there you know. If i hit any animal driving my car I would do eveything I could to save it but if I hit Obama or Pelosi with my car I would go back and forth until I am sure they are dead just like there brains and their followers zombies that need their heads chopped off!

        • Denniso

          CHILL…….

        • eddie47d

          Someone let the sewer rat out of his wire cage. Shame on you Doug

  • THINK ABOUT

    So, Crystal did you get your science degree from FOX news the noted tabloid. Same old ranting and raving, no solutions just as usual. Don’t think anyone else gets anything done anymore, just where was intelligent ideas in this article.

    • JeffH

      THINK ABOUT, you know full well that FOX controls the Republican politics in this country. Hell, Beck is really the Cat in the Hat, the advisor or FOX’s version of Axlerod if you will. Hannity is the FOX spokesperson like Robert Gibbs. O’reilly is the smart one of the bunch like the Commuity Organizer and Van Sustern is nothing more than a cheap version of Holder. Rush is nothing more than Pelosi and Reid in one huge body. Unlike the other alphabets, FOX uses mind control, manipulates, lies and distorts what they report just to indoctrinate all of there viewers which outnumber all the other sources combined. I’d say theyre pretty good at it wouldn’t you?
      At least you and a couple other liberal hacks know where you can get the real news, from Olbermann, Maddow and Mathews.
      RIGHT! Cows can fly too!

  • Rick

    I am wondering when one of these bureaucratic whackos will come up with a way to tax the air we breathe and call it ‘PERSONAL ATMOSPHERIC
    ABSORBTION FEE’. I hope these people fail to realize how they are
    enhancing FOX’s ratings by constantly excoriating them on the liberal
    networks.

    • Denniso

      Wake up Rick…industries pollute the air and water and often the soil. We have to have gov’t agencies,like EPA,that cost you tax money to do the cleanup or force the companies to do it. And why does the gov’t have to do it? Because industry won’t on their own. Water treatment plants that cost the public hundreds of millions each exist because of the pollution from industry, w/o which there could be simple filtration and maybe chlorination for treatment. The gov’t forces power plants and vehicles to have some form of emission controls on their stacks and engines…that also costs us money in the price of electricity and autos so we
      can breathe reasonably clean air.

      Would you like to forgo breathing and take away the evil gov’t controls and regulations on poor big business?

      • 45caliber

        denniso:

        The EPA hasn’t cleaned up anything as far as I know. They only write regulations. Most companies do the cleanup – and sometimes not even their own messes! What annoys me is what the EPA does allow.

        For instance, I worked at one plant that used zinc. The government mandated no more than 1.5 parts per million be released in rainwater. But cities all ADD zinc to their drinking water – at least 15 PPM. When we pointed that out to the EPA, they said, “Someone has to dilute the water the city releases.”

        Lead is considered poisonous. 8 PPM in soil is a problem for industrial plants – but 35,000 PPM (3.5% lead) in soil next to a busy intersection is okay.

        • eddie47d

          Hi Caliber; How many cities,government agencies or water dept.’s did you contact about this discrepancy? If the EPA or the water dept. drops the ball go up or down on that chain or even your plant manager for an answer. Find out what he is going to do about the problem or did he kick the can down the road. We get too complacent about environmental health problems.It’s always someones else’s problem until the damage is done. You did bring up a good point about the inconsistencies between agencies.

          • 45caliber

            We did. I was the Plant Engineer and reported directly to the plant manager. We went to both the state EPA and the Federal EPA. We were told the same by both groups.

        • 45caliber

          eddie:

          In fact, on the lead, we were told it mostly came from car exhausts prior to gasoline being changed to lead-free while the cars waited for the light to change. We were told that the EPA exempted such areas as okay because it would cost the government too much money to clean up all these areas. They only make someone else clean them up if they can pin the pollution on some private company.

          About ten years ago, my company was asked by the government to provide some safety engineers to check out a military site that made nuclear weapons. It seems that several workers a year were dying from radiation. They found that the site had polluted a stream for over twenty miles downstream above recommended radiation limits. The workers were NOT told the hazards of the radiation on purpose. As the general in charge said, “We can’t tell them it’s not safe! We wouldn’t get any work done.”

          The EPA exempted that site from cleanup too.

          • Karolyn

            then you just don’t quit! You just keep after them. “The squeaky wheel gets the grease.” How often do you write your congressman? Do you make as much noise to the “higher ups” as you do here? Somehow I doubt it. When I believe in something or am against something, I don’t just pay lipservice; I campaign by at least writing to Washington whether it means something or not. I will say something for Lindsey Graham, he at least answers all his constituents’ emails.

          • 45caliber

            Karolyn:

            I’m on both Senators’ and my Congressman’s email lists and I generally contact them on something about three-four times a month. Sometimes more often, as I have lately. It only helps if they get a few hundred thousand letters, but what the heck. Another can’t hurt, right?

  • TIME

    For God sake people get it straight before its too bloody late.
    We are all being manipulated, the DEM’s and REB’s have so little differance thats its not worth the effort to argue it!

    Why must it always be about what stupid party has done what.

    Some of you are bloody IDIOTS, and we know who you are, with your mindless dribble posted daily; wake the hell up, do you not grasp its much deeper than a few buffoons you see on TV who are getting wealthy off your hard work while pitting each of us aginst each other.

    IT NOT A STUPID FOOTBALL GAME. You nor anyone who is not holding at least 100 million dollars is nothing less that a crap buger to the people who are MANIPULATING you. WAKE UP.

    TV is the devil, it has done more harm than good, as it can brainwash Hundreds of millions in minutes, with pseudo science and facts that can’t bare the light of day.

    Let alone the mindless dribble posted in the normal news and the off point manipulating sights like the Daily kos or the Huffu Stuffie post, New Dork Times. WAKE UP IDIOTS.

    • 45caliber

      My TV hasn’t been hooked up to an antenna in five years. I only have it hooked to a DVD player. My wife isn’t too happy but seldom complains. My children have tvs, but at least some of my dislike has rubbed off on them too. One leaves it on for his wife while he goes and reads. Another uses the internet when it’s on. I can’t say I’ve done everything raising them wrong!

  • ALFRED E. NEUMAN

    What so many people miss entirely,MAN did not CREATE the UNIVERSE,MAN WILL NOT,CAN NOT,DESTROY any PART of the UNIVERSE!
    It is ATHEISTIC, ARROGANT, people who IGNORE COMPLETELY THEIR CREATOR, and prey upon IGNORANT, people of the same mindset!
    Al Gore et al are CON MEN, and CON WOMEN, who are getting rich beyond reason, LYING to people using PSEUDO SCIENCE, WHICH LIARS use to “CONVINCE” NON-BELIEVERS TO BUY THEIR LIES.
    THE GOD of ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB, CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING IN IT, HE IS IN CHARGE, AND IF HE DETERMINES TO “DESTROY IT” HE WILL DO IT, NOT PIPSQUEAK MAN”! READ HIS WORD and find out what HIS PLAN is!
    NOT MORONIC DEMONS OUT OF THE PIT OF HELL.

  • Casey in Texas

    Im to young to remember much of J. Carter. I was born in ’72. I come from a strong union democrat family both sides so my opinion is considered very stupid one to them. Makes for great Thanksgiving dinners. Anyway, its puzzling to me that Carter waits until Ted Kennedy dies to come out with the blame game on him? What like 30 years later to say something wasnt his fault? What a pu$$!! Or was he really scared that he might end up in a river? I hear it over and over again that the right has no ideas. Yes we do in fact or ideas are 220-235 years old. We arent the progressives ones! We think the country how it was orginally founded is just fine with us. We belive it wasnt broke so why did progressives try to fix it? They want two classes in the world. The ruling class and the peasants. One thing is for sure all liberals, democrats, progressives, or whatever they want to call themselves, do is blame other people for there mistakes. Kinda of like Carter blaming Kennedy that is funny! You would think they didnt come from the same party!!! Why didnt he blame someone else on the right?? That dude is an idiot. The other thing progressives do in a debate is talk over you. They dont come with anything they just try to drown you out. Then when you finally prove them wrong after about 3 hours of debate. They simple say Im not going to argue with you! And run and hide. Just like all these liberal/progressives/democrats do on here. On global whatever, I thought it was acid rain destroying the world, I mean global cooling, whatever the left tries to use as scare tatics to get their aggenda passed they will use. Well, it doenst work to us Right wing radical Christians, because we know who has control over everything and that person decides when it is over no one else!!! That person is GOd!! I dont think that progressives even belive in GOD at least not the one that i belive in. We will have change and its coming in Novemeber. Just a reminber to registar voters if you are inactive in voting then you lose your registration. I found that out last election. Thanks Clinton!! Why did they make that law?

    • eddie47d

      Our Constitution was and is great but a whole lot has changed since 1776. Should we remain in some kind of time warp? “All men are created equal”,yet no one really practiced it back then. Why did slavery continue? Why didn’t women vote until 150 years later? So you think things shouldn’t change and God approves of slavery? Maybe we should go back and get rid of the telephone and computer.Oh, Happy Days!

      • 45caliber

        eddie:
        Men are “created equal before God” but are not equal in real life. Do you follow any sports? Are you “equal” to the man making $20 mil a year playing football? Are you “equal” to Hawkings, the astronomer? Is he equal to you when you go outside?

        No one is equal. Everyone is better than the next person on something and is worse on something. What our founding fathers meant was that everyone had an equal chance to make something of himself. If he didn’t use that chance – it was up to him.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Eddie47d…. GOD said “A man is a slave to whatever has mastered him”
        That could be another man, woman, DRUGS, MONEY, SEX, FOOD, POWER or a multitude of other wordly issues. Yes, both blacks and whites were enslaved in this country and women did not have a right to vote. In fact, the first slave owner in this country was a BLACK MAN. Now, those who were enslaved decided not to be and women decided that YES we can vote and will vote.

        They faught the good fight and won their FREEDOM because they no longer accepted the mastery by another human. Did that statement just ring a bell with you? Neither do we want to be MASTERED by a marxist form of governance. OUR FREEDOMS COME FROM GOD, not MEN.

        Yes, a lot has changed since our founding, however, the core principles of our founding has not nor has GOD changed. Get it?

        • eddie47d

          Certainly as well as you do

  • 45caliber

    Ben:

    I thought you were saying you were trying to rename excuses for the Democrats. You CAN’T use “It’s Bush’s fault!” After all, Oblama was the one who coined that phrase.

  • FreedomFighter

    Demonrats are like that short ugly fella that is strongman of Iran showing his flying boats of death, unknowing that the US Navy has access to the same death ray, directed energy weapon’s tech the US Air Force does. The weapon probably has a boat effective range of 400 miles, almost instant, like a bug light killin a skeeter.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://Soverenty!Freedom! Blondi 2

    To Disgusted,you are exactly right.The Haarp program is a government man made global warming ,done by the Air Force.They also have one in Russia,Europe and Porti Rico.So looks like to me we are truely causing global warming,just not the way they are telling us we are.The governments are causing it. Remember When Russia was haveing fires and Putin blamed the US for it? I was at first thinking what? Then one night at about 3 in the morning I couldn’t sleep and I watched the History channel.They were showing the program Haarp.It was created to cause weather patterns to change.We have two such programs in Alaska and one in Porti Rico. Russia has one and Europe has one.They said some day war would be fought with weather,not soulders.They said what happened in Katrina was just that.We were fighting a weather war.They said a huricane can’t come into land in a straight line,but that is exactly what Katrina did.They were describing how it would go out and come back and go out and come back and then it hit.Kinda like playing chess or war with huricanes as the wheapon.They say by 2025 that is how war will be fought.Now how dangerous is that going to be when neither side can controll it anymore because they have got it so out of whack it won’t be controlable at all for anyone.And we can’t stop that by not buying gas or oil or the right light bulbs.

    • 45caliber

      To really get you excited (and keep you up at night) when I was in the Army 40 years ago they were telling us that they could trigger various fault lines in the Earth’s crust to cause earthquakes. In fact, they said they had figured out that three nukes, buried in the fault lines, detonated in a certain order and time, would trigger almost every fault line in the world! Now, go to bed and don’t worry.

  • http://www.infowars.com Truth

    Global Climate Disruption = HAARP, geoengineering, chemtrails = Intentional Modification of Climate.

  • Lena

    Where is John Myers’ usual Wednesday article? I’m not digging this.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Lena,

      John’s column will return next Wednesday.

      All the best,
      Bob

  • RichR

    Hey flushman, what’s the H stand for…..Hussein ?
    You need your nuts cut off so there’s no chance of reproduction.

    • eddie47d

      Sounds like you need a pair. Are you after his?

  • dahni uru

    Changing the names from ‘global warming’ or ‘islamic terrorists’ to something more benign really won’t change the outcome. Increased co2 levels will lead to more heat being trapped in the earth’s atmosphere, while will lead to increased temperatures around the globe which will lead to cimate changes both in the short term and in the long term.

    The potential problems won’t go away or be easier to solve by changing the name; just as calling ‘islamic terrorists’ ‘local community disruptors’ won’t change the outcome of innocent men, women and children being blown up in public markets.

    The only simple ways to lower the co2 effect are to stop producing it, or to find ways to convert it to a more useful chemical. Two ways to lower the co2 buildup are to decrease industrial activities which produce it (which means most industrial production); or decrease the number of living things (mostly humans and other oxygen breathing species).

    Basically, how fast you want to decrease co2 buildup will be determined by activities in those 2 areas. Does anyone reading this see any short term (100 years or so) that is at all possible given the current state of world relations?

    I refer you to a book by Steart Brand, “Whole Earth Discipline: An Ecopragmatist Manifesto’. I understood most of it with the same 5th grade education that allowed me to think Crystal’s article was quite funny.

    Meantime, an awfully large number of politicians and special interest groups are getting very rich from manipulating the ‘global climate issues’, including Al Gore and the growing contingent of EPS’ers

    Also, please investigate the ShoreBank in Chicago, which seems to be heavily involved in political favoritisms related to the ‘cap and trade’ plan, as well as others. Who owns it? Who is on the BOD Where do they get their money, and how are they spending it? I would really like to know more.

    • 45caliber

      dahni:

      Increased CO2 in the atmosphere will result in faster plant grown and more release of O2 – which we need to breathe – and less CO2 in the air. Worried about it still? Plant a few trees. They can use the CO2. Further, if the world gets warmer (unlikely due to CO2) it will cause more evaporation. Water in the atmosphere causes over 60% of all atmospheric pollution. Extra water in the atmosphere results in clouds and rain, which cools things down. They have proved that in sealed habitats.

      Gore and friends are just trying to scare you into making Gore rich(er).

  • Jerry

    Manmade Global Warming Myth was deliberate.

    1st: ALGORE was VP when NASA farmed out the global monitoring system to England, and the Brits lacked the resources to do the monnitoring, so they cooked the books to keep raking in the big bucks.

    2nd: There are islands above Scotland in the North Sea called the Orkneys. The archaeological digs there confirm that, 6000 years after the last ice age ended, meaning 6000 years ago, the Orkney’s had a Mediterranean climate. This means that the Earth was hotter 6000 years ago than today. Much hotter. So, what caused the world to heat up like that? Was it Stone Age AGW?

    3rd: They’ve finally admitted that Solar Cycles are affecting weather patterns, and do so far more dramatically than human industry.

    4th: the Antarctic ice pack grew 17% since the 1970′s. That’s why a big chunk the size of Rhode Island broke off. It was being pushed out tpo sea by all of that new ice forming in Antarctica.

    5th: the United Nations finally admitted that the ocean levels are not rising. They admitted that it was ‘bad science’ that led to that conclusion.

    6th: the Greenie Weenies will not give up even when you beat them over the head with real science. They don’t need real science, they’ve got ALGORE, plus the rest of the tax-happy cap in trade socialist econazis in Congress … but that is going to change real soon now.

    • eddie47d

      “The Right Wingers won’t give up until you beat them over the head with real science” plus, They also have their “econonazi’s” in congress who are full of hot air. As a climate change believer I don’t agree that the oceans will rise 20 feet anytime soon and maybe never.That’s still for Hollywood movies. I also don’t know (I guess I could look it up)if it will rise from ebb tide or high tide. That still doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Believe what is going on and question the rest.Plain and simple.

    • 45caliber

      On your item 4:

      They also found that the reason the ice broke off is that there are a large number of active volcanoes underwater in that area. One in particular had heated the water under the ice and had basically cut a channel in it where it broke off.

      Over 3000 active volcanoes are known to be under water. There is no indication of them on the surface. All water that is boiled at the source cools as it tries to rise. ALL oceans have them. Places like Iceland and Japan have many of them nearby which can cause tsunamis as well.

  • http://personallibertydigest Clarence Crosby ,Hubert ,NC

    This article sucks , all because of Bush .

  • L.J.

    The ONE who put the stars in the sky and created EVERYTHING out of nothing determines how the climate is governed (by Him). God is in control of the weather and whatever progressives want to call it this week; not man. All man wants to do with their schemes is STEAL MONEY from people who really need it by passing ILLEGAL laws. Since when do we need to bow down to an organization that can’t even police countries that have civil unrest? The blue helmets can go to hell as far as I am concerned and let them take their headquarters OUT of the U.S.–they are not wanted here!

  • Senior Lady

    All things change. Including Mama Earth. We needn’t “freak out” about it. Change is natural. We have always had it. The carbon footprint of the sun is much larger than that of humans. There sure are a lot of stupid people. The earth will be around for a very long time. So will we. Pray for guidance from God, Creator of ALL, however you perceive God, as The Force, Higher Power, whatever. God Bless America! God bless us all.

    • 45caliber

      Amen!

  • http://none Alex

    When are you clowns going to stop with your unfunny satire and write something substantive, like a storya bout our mercenaries murdering civilians for sport?

    Still love our military—rapists and child-killers?

    And they are ONLY THE ONES CAUGHT so far. We all know that when you take stupid or just impressionable young people and teach them to hate and to kill on command this is the result. There are many many more, as we will see. The vast majority of our mercenaries are not heroes, not by a long shot. The sport killers coming to light are much more representative of our armed farces.

    Screw the troops. Murdering swine.

    • JeffH

      Alex, perhaps you should detach yourself from civilization all together. I’m afraid you’d come to the same conclusions no matter the choice of your communist nation. Have a nice life if that’s even possible for someone as miserable as yourself.

    • 45caliber

      If you were to check (and I’m sure you won’t) our SOLDIERS – not mercenaries – have fewer bad people than are around you – wherever you live. And when they are caught doing something bad, they are punished for it more greviously than you would be doing the same thing.

      Further, the only reason you have the freedom to say such things as you did is becuase some soldier gave his life so you could. At least respect that.

      • http://none Alex

        45 cal–I disagree with your notion that those soldiers convicted are dealt punishment befitting the crime.

        William Calley?

        All those Abu Ghraib cretins murdering and torturing on our dime?

        • 45caliber

          Calley?

          I still have doubts about that one. I was in Nam. Why shoot prisoners when they can – perhaps – give you others? Send them back to the Vietnamese and a week or two later they come back with guards and show you where everything is. Then the Vietnamese takes them back and shoots them. Same results but you get rid of all the enemy in the area.

          Besides, the three men who testified against him were all courtmartialed by him for several problems – and all had $50,000 worth of gold deposited in bank accounts for them in San Fransciso by unknown parties.

        • 45caliber

          Alex: I’m not saying we don’t have some bad apples in the Army – we do. But if you check there are far fewer of them there than in your own neighborhood. Do you call the person next door bad names because of it? I seriously doubt it. But you feel justified in labelling all in the military due to the problems of a few. I hope someday you will need protection from one of those “mercenaries” – and they walk away.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Alex, MOVE! It’s simple! Then you won’t need to deal with AMERICA!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      would that be the civilians carrying the AK-47s or the ones with the RPGs? The next time the terrs set off a bomb in this country I hope someone you care for very much is front and center. Then we’ll see how much you love your towel-head brothers.

  • a progressive nightmare

    Since the progessives insist on Global Warming or Global disruption then I think I have a solution for them. We need to set up carbon-print elimination programs, such as, progressive self-terminating gas chambers. Now before you progressives start calling me facist or any of those other hurtful little words, listen carefully to what I am saying!

    We need all those who think man is destroying the planet to step forward for this VOLUNTEER program of self-termination. In fact, see if you can convince your whole family to join in! Look at all the HOT AIR emissions this would eliminate. I bet it would lower the planet’s temp by 10 degrees!

    It’s kind of like my progressive friend who stated in front of me and several other people that “I’ll tell you what the problem is! There is just to darn many people in this world!” My response, “well, OK, if you say so, soooo, why don’t you go home and kill your kids and wife and then commit suicide!!!” That would be 4 less SOB”S on this planet!

    LOL!

    • 45caliber

      Don’t laugh too hard. The Liberal Left have their crematoriums and are planning to use them to control all the humans that don’t instantly agree with their idea of the world and bow down when they walk by in awe of their mental abilities.

      (Search for FEMA detention centers)

      The only real problem with this is that the liberals are afraid that touching a gun might cause them to contract a disease – conservatism. Further, they are afraid of the noise guns make and are totally useless in war. (One reason the US no longer has the draft. Why draft men you KNOW are going to be useless?) So I’m not really sure how they plan to talk us inter using those things. After all, ANY armed force that might try to force us would also prove that they need to go in too.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Good for them but only one problem. They are too lazy and too stupid to use them.

  • guyb

    All these fox news haters tell me the far left is being exposed and they do not like it. If the far left liberals would just leave America altogether we would all be better off. Fox news is the most fairly reported news out there if the liberals had any truth in themselves.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Yep!

    • http://none Alex

      You exhibit a complete lack of understanding of the ethics of journalism.

      There is no rooting in the press box—any sportswriter will tell you that this is true.

      The Faux Noose Channel has donated one million dollars to the Rethuglican Governors Ass.—-even those of you who blathered about their “Fair and Balanced” approach to the news must now admit to being duped.

      Any person with an objective approach will tell you that Fox is THE MOST slanted major news organization today. Without question.

      Although the bulk of you will howl upon reading this, Fox News is much farther to the Right side of the political spectrum than MSNBC is to the Left—beyond any sensible assessment.

      • JeffH

        Objective as in ALEX is objective?

  • http://www.pureheartsinternational.com Geoff Pace

    About “global Warming” “global Climate Interruption.”..

    I really prefer…

    IRRITABLE EARTH SYNDROME.”

    Why because its bowels are jammed packed with over 25,000 abandoned oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico, nuclear waste in the deserts of Utah and Chernobyl is still seeping after about a quarter century. Then we still have the dangerous hot air wafting over DC to boot!
    I think Mother Earth has just about had it with us and she is about to engage in a little hot air fart of her own soon in various places around the “Ring of Fire.” Time for another “ELE” like in Christmas time 2004, I’d say.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Dont’w worry about it! Eddie47d and Flashpan will stop it with Cap & Tax”!!! LOL!

  • BrotherPatriot

    Such a very funny spin on a NOT AT ALL funny situation. To bad you had to write this but at the same time…Ty for doing so, Mr. Crystal.

    We all need a little humor amongst this unbelievable situation America is in…which is the greatest crisis we have ever seen.

  • Karolyn

    Gee. Where was I when Global Warming was debunked? What a lot of trash-talk; and as usual, no substance.

    • a progressive nightmare

      let’s see YOUR substance? The DATA!!!! I have requested it from every ding bat progressive on this blog. Let’s see it! Put up or shut up!

      • Karolyn

        Nightmare, unlike you, I don’t have unlimited time to spend on this site. I have a pretty full life. I would love nothing better than to research everything, but I don’t have a clone. My point is what others have said – that all we hear is trash-talk and no solutions offered. It’s the same old song. Rouse the rabble and make people laugh at the expense of others.

        • a progressive nightmare

          Karolyn, Exactly! You parrot things from others without doing the necessary research to confirm or deny. Mental lazyness appears to be a common thread with you progressives. You make assertions but you have no facts to back up those assertions and then you get upset because we don’t believe? It’s called being an INDEPENDENT THINKING ADULT. I guess this is the reason you have gore flying around the country trying to indoctrinate our kids(6-8 years aged) into this “green” movement because anyone with 1/2 a brain with an eight grade education would ask ” and just how did you come up with your Global Warming Conclusions?”

          Since I understand you mental aptitude now, did you know that the planet is Flat?

        • Karolyn

          Nightmare, I was speaking of the article writer. I wonder how much research he’s done.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Obviously more than you have.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      you were in class getting indoctrinated.

  • http://YouTube.com/CanadaLarry Lawrence Edward Calcut

    @ Ben Crystal

    Ben, do you know any really good Hip Hop singers who are out of work.

    This would make a great recording.

    It sounds like a hip hop song.

    · ManBearPig is REAL! We’re super-duper SERIAL!
    · The power of imagination.
    · Is it hot in here, or is it… OH MY GOD!
    · Science? We don’t need no stinking science!
    · You say “summer.” We say “RUN!”
    · We can’t believe we get paid to do this, either.
    · Can everyone on Dailykos be wrong?
    · It’s Bush’s fault.
    · We love it here! (Please help us. We’re trapped in Keith’s basement.)
    · Sorry your remote broke.
    · If it’s even remotely related to reality — you’re probably watching VH1 again.
    · When Ed says “voter fraud is cool” he means that in a good way.
    · Like Fox News without all those high-calorie facts.
    · We promise, Olbermann’s only an hour.
    · Yes, Maddow looks like that on purpose.
    · Liberal talking points — we don’t write ‘em, we just read ‘em.
    · FEEL THE TINGLE!
    · It’s Bush’s fault
    · Remember us?
    · We were cool before email.
    · We were cool before mail mail.
    · You have to go somewhere during Department of State attacks on Drudge.
    · Print is so relevant!
    · So much more than Jayson Blair.
    · Check out our Pulitzers!
    · All the talking points fit to print.
    · Like the USA Today, without those distracting colors.
    · It’s Bush’s fault
    · We used to be awesome.
    · Darth Vader does our voice-overs.
    · Like us, or we’ll send Carville to your house.
    · We’re so tired. So very, very tired.
    · Ted Turner has left the building.
    · Our ratings are still better than MSNBC’s.
    · It’s Bush’s fault.
    · Blinking is overrated.
    · Draining the swamp, one thimble at a time.
    · The miracle of Botox®.
    · I love poor people! They keep my houses clean!
    · It’s Bush’s fault
    · Compared to Obama, I’m John McCain.
    · Compared to Pelosi, I’m Barry Goldwater.
    John Kerry. America woke up just in time:
    · Yooooou raaaang?
    · PAY ATTENTION TO ME!
    · Do the bolts in my neck show?
    · Have Oscar, will travel (by private jet)!
    · RRRRRAAARRRRRRR! FIRE! BAAAAAAD
    · (singing)… The kid is not my son! (It IS my daughter, however.)
    · I am dedicated to ending the disparity between rich and… AMBULANCE!
    · I feel pretty! Oh so pretty!
    · Are they still hiring for a new Breck Girl?
    · Jihad, American Style!
    · Join us Fridays for Osama’s Greatest Hits, followed by bingo!
    · When we say “Allahu!” you say “Akbar!”
    · Like Carter, except I don’t hate Jews that much.
    · Quiet, or Michelle will hear you.
    · What can brown do for you?
    · I can’t believe nobody noticed I lifted my campaign strategy from The Distinguished Gentleman.
    · It’s this or President Joe Biden.
    · I’m not asking you — I’m TELLING you.
    · Kenya… Hawaii… what’s the difference?
    · It’s Bush’s fault.
    · Did I mention it’s Bush’s fault?

    Thank you God, it’s a great hip hop song. Know anybody looking for work?

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

      Mr. Calcut:

      I don’t know any good rappers who are NOT out of work. That’s going to be a tougher find than an honest politician in Detroit, or a Dailykos web “diarist” with an IQ higher than a turnip.

      • http://www.youtube.com/CanadaLarry Lawrence Edward Calcutt

        Ben, Mr. Crystal, thanks for the reply, I’m surprized you even saw my post. If you are the same General Crystal who told the Obama to stick the job….. and I hope you are, I create t-Shirt photos for 12160.org and post them to make waves against the NWO-Elite. I’m working on one now. It will say :

        To me its
        Crystal clear
        If WAR all America
        is Capable of
        we should have a
        Warrier
        in the Whitehouse.

        Not a silly
        pretty boy like

        …. photo of Obama ….

        Hope you get to see this post.
        The photo of the T-Shirt will
        be on 12140.org under my Profile
        tomorrow

  • Claire

    I am still a firm believer in taking care of Mother Earth, I always will be. I am against man-made pollution. I despise what some companies have done to our lakes, streams, and oceans. I believe in picking up after ourselves, no littering, etc. I despise people that throw garbage out their car windows, in our national parks, dumping along roadways, etc. Plus dumping dirty pampers in mall parking lots, how sick is this!! Is it laziness or what? I was raised on a farm, I was taught to have respect for the earth, wildlife, etc. I was not taught to defile the ground I walk on or raise my gardens on. I was taught to have respect for God and the earth he has given us.

    • Jim H.

      Hi Claire, When I was a kid we would canoe and fish the Fox River. There were carp, blue gill and bullhead. When you took the boat out of the water there was a brown film on it below the waterline. Now we have bass, northern and walleye. The game fish are back and we don’t have to wash the canoe every time we get home from the river. The air in our area is much cleaner too. I don’t want to go back to how it was. Now we have eagles nesting along the river. you wouldn’t have seen the even 15 years ago. We have sandhill cranes nesting here, they were almost extinct. The wildlife in our area is making a huge comeback. Coyotes are moving in.(the foxes don’t like that)I believe in keeping the air and water clean, I just don’t believe that global warming is man made.

      • Claire

        Jim H — I think a lot of factories, companies have contributed to the pollution of the Illinois River, and various other lakes and streams. What about the blue algae? That stuff is volatile to dogs. I still hold to my thoughts on pollution and the climate. Jim we never used to have tornados, now we do. Whatever happened to nice gentle rains? Now when it rains, it seems it is one heck of a storm. Lake Springfield is a joke. Filthy as the dickens, a person should never swim in it. Let alone eat any of the fish. Forty years ago, I took my kids to the beach at Lake Springfield, I had on a pink swimsuit that turned brown. My son got diarhhea and my daughter got ear infection. I had to take them to the doctor. Needless to say, that one time was enough for me. Here in my area, the wildlife is making a comeback-they have to come to town to get anything to eat, there is hardly any woods or timber left. In some cases, the government pays the farmers not to “farm” their ground. I say if the ground is not farmed, then plant trees. I still say take care of Mother Earth.

        • Claire

          BTW–the eagles have made a comeback along the Illinois River, but the government had a hand in that, or else there wouldn’t be any. There were a lot of guys that killed eagles–I guess for the “fun” of it? There are a lot of poachers in that area.

  • Danno369

    Let’s learn to play nice here. Try to exam the body of information out their. But wait, how do we do that?

    First, let’s add a lens of definition to the events unfolding. We are assumed to believe that we are being governed from the middle, the left and the right. We are told we should be fair to all points of view so the greater good is served: I contend this amounts to a confabulation.

    In psychology, confabulation is the spontaneous narrative report of events that never happened. It consists of the creation of false memories, perceptions, or beliefs about the self or the environment usually as a result of neurological or psychological dysfunction. When it is a matter of memory, confabulation is the confusion of imagination with memory, or the confused application of true memories. Confabulations are difficult to differentiate from delusions and from lying. With respect to memory, wild confabulations about one’s past are rare in the absence of organic causes (e.g., brain damage), and the term “confabulation” is often restricted to these types of distortions. In contrast, even neurologically intact people are susceptible to memory errors or confusions due to psychological causes.

    Or: We could call what’s happening a marvelous piece of sententious opacity.

    Sententious: Self-righteousness (also called sententiousness, holier-than-thou) is a feeling of (usually) smug moral superiority derived from a sense that one’s beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.

    Opacity: 1. The quality or state of being opaque. 2. Something opaque. 3a. Obscurity; impenetrability. 3b. Dullness of mind.

    Our governmental system has eroded into a mass confabulation of factoids that only from a “certain” perspective, or apparent reality, can make sense. Speaking with sententious opacity, to confuse the public about what is being done, and inserting the latest flavor of “greater-good” doctrine – we are being lulled into sleep to become the financial battery for the welfare program called Washington.

    Washington D.C. is on welfare…America’s welfare. If you and I saw a Welfare recipient benefits being increased to allow them to own a modest $200,000 home, a 60 inch flat-screen, free food and utilities, access to some cash, and an iPhone: you would be screaming. You would have some dialog of reasonableness. At least you would expect some labor or service in return for a certain threshold. Churches (don’t leave yet) were the original Welfare system and when someone would need the goodness of others to survive a down time: They were given food, shelter and counseling to help them be self sustaining. The often expressed gratitude and receive mentoring, training and fellowship in the process. They did not have the right to vote themselves more money or to demand things they never worked for or earned. They were operating on the good graces of others and understood that. It was personal and the program was to get the person quickly past the bump in the road of life. Widows and orphans were extended great compassion but never took advantage of the circumstances. The kindness extended to them was appreciated and great men and women were the byproducts of such extension of … dare I say, love.

    When the Washington D.C. property created the business entity call “The Government”, it began to replace the Constitution and start dictating to people what was in their best interests. Now the States are starting to follow the same logic. Real history, not a confabulation, must be understood: Not the new age history books that are rewriting, from a certain point of view, or should I say: to a certain point of view, what really happened.

    I hear the rattling of a desperate group of Welfare recipients in Washington D.C., in panic, over the fact that the public has too much information at their disposal and is figuring them out. So what do they do? Put us in debt, don’t honor the promises they made that put them in office and show zero gratitude for America. Democrat, Republican and Independent alike – I see little or no gratitude, sincerity or kindness in serving the nation that is “One Nation under God” – The constitution is being shredded and legislated away. When 60 percent of the voters follow procedures and vote and pass a law that the courts can decertify their votes and take away – well, that, with minor circumstance, is just plain wrong.

    Wakey, wakey America. Most issues are not complex. It is greed that makes them complex. Language is supposed to be simple. I should be able to say, based in fact, that the government is lying to us and taking advantage of our Welfare. To be plain speaking might hurt someone’s feelings. So, I am forced to say we are eroding into a confabulation of political sententious opacity aimed at forcing America to drink the kool-aid of “greater good” doctrine. America you are smart, you are blessed and you are a nation born under the banner of God and an inspired Constitution. Get the facts yourself, not from CNN, Fox, The NY Times, Washington D.C. or your public school taught children who are being socialized. Hold Washington D.C. responsible. Think things through my friends, love one another, live for each other, watch out for each other, and hold those elected welfare recipients accountable for the generosity you’ve extended them.

    A free soul living on the land called Kansas.

  • Danno369

    Sorry for the long message… I spent two hours reading this thread and my heart goes out to all of you. In all a good thread. Too much negative emotion. The article starting this poked some good fun at some people who can take it. Too bad they probably won’t see this.
    BTW… This is the first thread I have ever felt compelled to respond to.

  • HandleTheTruth

    Great Article! It’s not enough for the libs to name an event that is a farce – now they have to rename it! LOL. Global Warming – is nothing more than Mother Nature’s Weather. Did the libs ask Her and God if they can change the name of their events?

    GET REAL! These people are far out there..I don’t know where, but they’re out there!

  • riledup

    building the ground zero mosque. Alook at the history of South Manhattan Island reveals that from Wall Street to the southern end of the island swine,pigs and or hogs were raised there and slaughtered from the early sixteen hundreds until the early 1900 hundreds.The swine were allowed to roam over the southern end of the island from Wall Street where a barrier was erected to keep the swine from going further north on the island. So when does the pollution of the land that the swine roamed around on dissipate so that the ground becomes holy enough to build a mosque on?

    • Karolyn

      Give me a break!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        leg or arm ?

  • THIRD PARTY

    OH WHAT A WEB WE WEAVE,WHEN WE DECEIVE.THE TWO PARTY PARADIGM IS A LAUGHABLE DESTRUCTION OF SANITY.

  • Tunaman

    Hflashman, How much COOL-AID have you had today?? Oh by the way which lefty commie brain-washing school did you spend your time?? What a piece of HUMAN DEBRIE!!!

  • Marilyn

    You people sure waste a lot of time arguing about the weather! I am in my, a little more than, mid 70′s, with an excellent memory! In The early 30′s when I was born in a big blizzard in March. When in High school we had several days that we walked around town with our light-weight coats open and nothing on our heads (but hair) and certainly no gloves! It was Jan. & balmy like middle May! My grandmother used to talk about walking to school on snow as high as the fence posts! I have lived through years where there were great floods and scorching summers before homes were air conditioned! If you read history you will find that Europe went through a terrible heat wave that lasted over a year. This was in the middle ages. Once when my children were small we had a Christmas when we opened the door to cool the house off even with the heat turned off! In 1978 and 1979 we had snow so deep that all traffic was stopped and the police could not even get through the snow drifts to the hospital with a women who was giving birth! A city of over 100,000! I have always lived in Indiana and that is where the majority of this weather took place. I have traveled all over the U.S in my life but lived in Indiana!
    Bo is an idiot and has gotten us in more trouble in 2-1/2 years than even Jimmy Carter, who for years, was the worst president this country ever saw! You people who seem to think that BO’s way is the right way, cannot possibly be anything but socialists. Hitler started the same way in Germany in the early 30′s! If that is really what you want then you are surely lacking in any historical knowledge! You are helping to kill this great and wonderful country. If you who believe in BO’s ways and aid and abet him, when this is all over and WE win you should be sent from this country to Russia as you would be much happier there than here !

  • Markus

    I wonder if we are going to make it out of this? Maybe God will give us one more chance? Do you think if we pray for our country God will help us get these Marxists out of here? Why did we allow this to happen? Apathy, Naivite’, or is it just Bible prophecy being fulfilled?
    I think God is tired of us killing our babies in the womb, tired of us “Californicating” the entire world, dismissing him at all levels of our lives, and just a complete apostacy (falling away) towards everything that is right. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
    I’m not perfect, but at least I admit it.

    • Denniso

      Is your Christian God also tired of the killing of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan? Would your friend Jesus approve of those wars? One war that should never have happened,another grossly mismanaged by Cheny/Rumsfeldt?Bush that could have been concluded in a couple of years…but no, we have to keep killing people there because of Bush’s gross incompetence!!!

  • JeffH

    My my, it seems as if I’ve offended some liberal hack enough to hijack my name. You’re so proud of who you are you have to hide behind anothers name. Nothing new there, just brilliance…baaaa, baaaa.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Jeffh, I’ve had comments posted by these hacks under my name as well.
      That only means they are losing the debate which may be a good sign come november.

      • JeffH

        a progressive nightmare, it happens every so often. It generally happens when a liberal hack end up speechless because they can’t and won’t back up what they say with simple facts when asked. The regular posters can see right thru these hacks anyways. Looks like the moderator pulled the fakes off the thread.

        • a progressive nightmare

          Yep! Good deal!

    • JeffH

      Jo also says baaa, baaa, baaa!

      • JeffH

        Looks like another phony,Jo, bit the dust…

    • JeffH

      Just a tad upset eh? Flattery will get you a spot at the trough!

      • JeffH

        Me too!

  • James

    The national weather service says we have just had the hottest summer since 1998. The simple truth is our globe has been warming for at least 12,000 years. Back then North America was covered with ice down to about the Ohio River. The ocean level was about 250 feet lower. Alaska was connected to Asia with an ice bridge.
    Just off the southeast coast of India there’s an island that used to be the end of a penisula. A few years back, some deep-sea divers explored that area and found the remains of a temple building at around the 250-foot depth. It resembled the remains of a mainland building, apparently built after the old building was threatened by the rising waters. Off the southeast coast of South America there are paved roads leading out to…old Atlantis?
    It is now estimated that Greenland’s glaciers will be gone in about a hundred years. National Geograhic’s (June 2010) cover said “Greenland [is] Ground Zero for Global Warming.” Global warming doesn’t happen constantly. We can have 2 or 3 years of global cooling, then 3 or 4 years of global warming. A year of global warming just means more of the earth’s ice melted in the summer than refroze in the winter. That has been occuring now for about 12,000 years. (The submerged building off southeast India also proves that there were people there before 10,000 BC.)

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