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As Immigration Supporters Converge On Washington, FAIR Accuses Obama Of Sellout

March 29, 2010 by  

As immigration supporters converge on Washington, FAIR accuses Obama of sellout On March 18, President Obama made a pledge to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) that he would push for amnesty for illegal aliens, in a move that that the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) called an act of "buying votes."

Obama’s promise came just hours after members of the CHC threw their support behind the healthcare reform bill, which passed late on March 21.

The announcement also coincided with the release of an outline for amnesty legislation by Senators Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), which would require illegal aliens to admit that they broke the law, pay a fine and back taxes and fulfill certain civic requirements in order to regulate their status. Moreover, the proposal calls for increases in future immigration to the United States.

"The Schumer-Graham plan appears to be a near carbon copy of the McCain-Kennedy-Bush amnesty legislation that was resoundingly rejected by the American people in 2007," said Dan Stein, president of FAIR.

Coincidentally, a huge crowd marched on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., March 21—the day of the healthcare vote—to support the administration’s proposals for immigration overhaul.

During the rally, Obama spoke via a video link, saying he would do "everything in my power" to get a deal within the year.

"While Congress and the administration ignore the concerns of millions of American families who are struggling through the worst economic crisis in 75 years, they appear remarkably responsive to the demands of people who are in the country illegally," Stein commented.
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  • s c

    The Washington circus just doesn’t stop, does it? The Boobsey Twins [Schumer and Graham] are brown-nosing Obummer, in a thinly-veiled attempt to make the a pathetic McCain-Kennedy-Bush travesty appear ‘equal.’ Well, folks, if you combine the over-rated talents of Schumer, Graham, McCain, Kennedy and Bush in trying to sell out America in the name of buying easy votes, you have a well-heeled, well-oiled, prostituted machine. These yahoos are indeed “remarkably responsive” to the
    needs of people who DO NOT deserve to be in America. For those who suffer from a short memory, illegal is illegal is illegal.
    If you see it for what it is (and who the major in-house retards are), we have yet again another bunch of California-style fruits, nuts and flakes.
    Is there anyone who can’t see though this CRAP? At least Bush is out of Washington. One down, and four to go (in this case).

    • scott

      shumer,silver smith,and the rest of the dem scum have been bankrupting ny for years,to play favor to the black man.now they want to ruin the entire country. time to put an end to them.we need strick 1 yr term limits.and recall rules so we can get scum out when we see it.

      • Dr. Mabuse

        Perhaps we can start with you…

        • John

          Open your eyes. Oh, first remove cranium from rectum, you can’t possibly see in a black hole. This is a great idea, although we wouldn’t have too many left inside the beltline. Hmmmm, that wouldn’t be bad

    • Pat

      Instead of trying to sweep the problem under the rug by giving them all amnesty, they should be going through prisons and jails and shipping petty criminals back to their home countries with their info and fingerprints into a non-welcome database; then tackle the welfare rolls for the long-term illegal abusers. If you haven’t tried to assimilate into America, you just want the taxpayers to support you, time to go home and find another sucker to support you. We are having a hard enough time taking care of our own citizens who truly need help. We can’t afford to “dumb down” our schools any longer to help non-English speaking students learn. We don’t need to print everything in a dozen languages; other countries don’t. For the past 370 years, the responsibility to learn the language and culture and assimilate into America has been on the immigrant.Somehow this changed into “C’mon in,here’s a welfare check, housing voucher, food stamps, Social Security, etc.We’ll take care of you!”

    • Dr. Mabuse

      Lets all go hunting…
      after all, everyone is fair game…
      aren’t they? I’m all for culling the herd…

      • Palin12

        Is this Dr Kevorkian??

  • Claire

    You know, if the government grants amnesty to all of the illegals already here in the U.S. it will only snowball. They will really pour into America at an alarming rate. When is this insanity going to end? Until the true Americans are totally destitute? Why don’t they round them all up, like the government did to the Japanese in World War II? This issue just makes me sick.

    • eyeswideopen

      Claire, there weren’t 12 million of them to round up. How much money do you think it would cost to do that? How much to feed them until you transport? How much to transport them? What do you do with the children born here? Please don’t say suspend the Constitution. How much in medical costs during transport? How many personell do you think it will take to round them up? What do you do with all their personal belongings, furniture, cars, clothes? How many billions of dollars do you think it would take to round them all up and transport them back to Mexico? That is probably why Reagan granted amnesty to 3.2 million. But then he failed to make our border more secure and pass stricter laws, but the biggest offenders are the employers and those that know illegals are working somewhere and don’t turn them in. Do you have any ideas on what to really do?

      • Claire

        Eyes–You have made some strong points. I thought about all of this, it is a nightmare. I realize the issue concerning the children that are born here, but that is why they hurry up and have kids. Reagan and the Congress at the time dropped the ball and the administrations that followed Reagan did not deal with the situation either. None of the administrations wanted to “deal” with this issue, they always left it all up to the “next” administration. Like you said, Reagan dealt with 3.2 million but didn’t follow through with closing and securing our borders so that no more would get in. A golden opportunity to end the issue or at least put a “lid” on it was lost. Consequently the illegals thought they would all be granted amnesty so they came in droves. And now they are raising hell with the current administration. The current administration has to deal with the mess that was never dealt with properly.
        Possibly the couples/single parents that have children that were born here could be granted amnesty but not the rest of them. But then again some couples will have a child born in the U.S. and the rest of their kids were not, so the whole family would be granted amnesty. The family unit cannot be broken up. I would handle this issue in this manner, all other illegals would be sent packing. It will be a “hard nose” situation, but there is no other solution.
        If they grant amnesty to the ones with American-born kids and to all illegals that are already here, they should follow through with the process and close the borders and make damn sure no one else gets in. This can be done if they want to bad enough. We have already spent trillions of dollars on everything else, what is another trillion?
        The Constitution–leave as is. The administrations–there are so many loopholes they have all used to “get around” other issues that are debatable with the mechanisms of the Constitution. Look at all the people that are screaming that the current issues at hand were not dealt with according to the Constitution. This is a fact that has been going on for years. This aspect will never go away.
        Regarding employers, they want cheap labor and not give any benefits. A lot of these issues regarding employers is nothing more than greed. I realize not all employers/employees are greedy, but a lot of them are. Greed and corruption has consumed the way of life for many many years. A lot of them were/are concerned with making and pocketing a fast buck. And if illegals are granted amnesty, they will continue to be cheap labor, and others will continue to be jobless. The taxpayer will still have to contribute towards their welfare.
        The issue of amnesty has reached a “boiling point” and has to be dealt with. If this issue is not handled properly/thoroughly and taken care of NOW, there will be no turning back. It is an issue that cannot be evaded.

        • Claire

          eyes–I wish to make myself clear, although I tried to point out a possible solution regarding families, I still do not agree with amnesty for all. It is not fair to the American people. If the current administration grants amnesty to all illegals, there will be hell to pay. The handwriting is on the wall.

          • http://naver Brady

            Just because they are born here doesn’t give them status to be called an American. If their parents are illegal aliens then the children are too. We shouldn’t forget that we aren’t Americans just because we are born here either. We have to earn the right to be called Americans by remembering service, honor, and duty to country. We should love this country, follow the ways of our founding fathers, the Constitution, vote for our representatives, etc. If we do these things, along with working hard and earning our pay, then we can call ourselves Americans.

          • jomama

            We can send them home on their own dime – with the money they made here. Then they cannot say we are unfair. They made the money – now they can take themselves home on it. Good-bye!!
            And as for their anchor babies – they can take them with them. We know that those babies were brought into this world for just one purpose – so they can be the anchor in this country. That has got to stop as well.
            No – we do not have to spend US money to send the illegal immigrants home. We get what we want & we are not unfair. And they cannot complain. Lots of people try to manipulate the law to their own favor. Maybe someone can spell it out so everyone understands it. There is nothing wrong with that. And it’s fair.
            Any other problems you would like me to solve???

          • CB

            Have the companies who hire these illegals foot the bill.

        • CB

          My niece and nephew were born in England (American military parents). The family returned to the United States. The parents took care of the children, not the government of England or the government of the U.S.A. It is the parents responsibility to care for their children where ever the family lives. At birth the children were granted dual citizenship until the age of 18. At that point the children declared their allegiance to their county of choice.

        • Scott

          I don’t want a “hurry up and fix it” approach to be “pushed through no matter what” like this sentence of imprisonment they call health care. BUILD THE FREAKING WALL. Then we can deal with the illegals that are here. The problem lies in Washington, these guys are getting paid huge amounts of money to run our country into the ground. If this keeps up, I’m gonna sneak across the border into Mexico and find me a spanish senorita to marry so I can get my papers

          • Joe H.

            Scott,
            yes, we can deal with them as soon as the wall is built!! If any are picked up, deport, deport, deport!! Did I say DEPORT??!?!?!?

      • s c

        You have a most interesting (but utterly illogical) approach to a nasty problem, orbs. That is, your ‘logic’ says it will cost “too much” to round up those who have committed a crime in America (illegal immigrants).
        If it costs ‘that much,’ send the bill to people like Soros and Obummer and their ilk. Many progressives are beyond filthy, stinking rich, and they can afford to pay to have illegals ‘returned.’
        It is almost amusing that a progressive can act ‘concerned’ about SPENDING MONEY, when your current god, Obummer, has obligated America to sink DEEPER into debt, he has all but raped the economy (in the name of ‘saving’ it), and NOW you dare to expect us to think you really “care” about SPENDING MONEY?
        I never tire of shedding light on a most demented type of ‘logic’ that is part and parcel of the ultraliberal progressive mentality.
        Thanks, once again, for letting slip the difference between what you say and what you really mean, orbs. Ah, that revealing aroma of “integrity” on the other side of the aisle.

        • Joe H.

          SC,
          how many did eisenhower deport???

          • s c

            JoeH, what’s your point? My info says that DDE was prepared to make a move and TRY to put a dent in the problem. He knew that ‘special interests’ were entrenched, AND he also knew that some shady characters [like LBJ] were lined up to cater to illegals. LBJ was in love with ‘open borders’ in the early ’50s.
            As we all know, Kennedy did NOTHING to make a difference. He farted around from the day he was elected. We can “thank” boobs like Alexnder Hamilton for creating problems long before Americans realized we had yet another problem created by BIG GOVERNMENT LOSERS.

          • Joe H.

            SC,
            My point is he did deport a great number of them and did it quite handily!! He dide something about the problem instead of saying it’s impossible to do anything!!!!

          • John

            Not enough, let’s do it again! IF we do nothing or give them the Red Carpet welcome they’ll keep coming. Besides Hussein osama this is the major problem we have. get rid of both (as well as the 2 other stooges-pelosi and reid) and we’re well on our way to getting OUR country back.

        • John

          We need to keep aliens out in the first place and then penalize employers who hire illegals. As far a amnesty, like someone said it would cost a TON to send them back, just go back to workplace enforcement, without jobs there is no attraction. Unfortunately Bush and the GOP like cheap labor so gave them free access to the USA.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800613.html

          http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/archives/2009/11/post_320.html

          • marvin

            for ever dollar that an illegal makes it cost the american tax payer 6 dollars and if you figure the jobs that are lost to illegal worker the cost is way higher as for the cost to deporting them we have money to hire 17000 more irs agents around $33,000 to start and give the federal empoyes a 2% rise and put 40 unelected czars plus staff on the goverment pay roll the average pay for a federal employ is about $100,000 so less get real close the borders stop importing 120,000 visa card holders a month and arrest and deport all illegals and send there kids with them

      • Don Evans

        Eyes,
        Ask yourself one question: If this was the Mexican government, what do you think they’d do. Make English their second language?? Wake up.

      • marvin

        to eyeswideopen so what you want to do is just what you liberals and your goverment has allways done enforce the law on the american citizen that try to obay are laws and not on crooks and thieves that are here illegally and yes they are crooks and they have broke the law some with stolen id, less see you would be ok if i came to your house and just moved in and eat your food and sleep in your bed and drive your car and how bout your job , wake up this country is broke and have 20 million illegals here we have tryed amnesty and it will not work all it will do is get more and yes i say arrest detain and deport and like you said what about there kids i say don,tbreak up the illegal,s famly send there children with them

      • Airangel

        It wouldn’t take near as much to deport them as to keep them here on all the taxpayers gracious aid for housing assistance, living assistance, educational assistance, medical assistance, child assistance per child, etc…in fact the longer they stay here illegally, it’s costing us more and more as they produce more babies and work without paying their share of taxes back into the system…don’t get me wrong…a lot of it is not their fault for wanting a better life for their family…but our system is broken and needs fixing so it is fair to loyal American’s who have paid from 13-14 years old to retirement…illegals should not have more than the hard working blue collar worker that has paid taxes all his life trying to feed, clothe and take care of his/her family.

        • John

          Believe it was in ’08 that the illegal’s tab was (only) 332.?? billion. Jeez seems to me we could send back half of Mexico for that amount. Build the wall, enforce illegals being employed (maybe send the employers to Mexico along with with the rest of illegal alien hordes). Stop the freebies, we worked so hard for and they get for free. If it keeps going no one will have anything, then maybe they’ll go back ’cause Mexico will be richer than the US. Wonder if we can go there and have the Mexican gov. take care of us?

    • s c

      Claire, If you take the time to do some research on FDR, you will lose whatever respect you may have for him. When you consider FDR’s true ‘beliefs,’ people who surrounded him (especially insider-advisors), and the damnable schemes he implanted in America, DO NOT be surprised to learn that he had plans to put Japanese-Americans in concentration camps BEFORE we were attacked at Pearl Harbor.
      If you sift and sort through the admiring, braindead camp-followers who think FDR walked on water, you will learn that FDR made the Depression WORSE. Do you really think he didn’t know that later generations of sleazoid politicians would run Soc Sec into the ground? Perpetual THEFT of America’s wealth is but one of the gods FDR adored and worshipped.
      You have but to look at Obummer and those many useful idiots who came before him. They are nothing less than sons and daughters of people like FDR. You might think of them as ‘acorns.’

      • Claire

        sc—I did not know about FDR wanting to round up the Japanese Americans before the attack on Pearl Harbor. It makes me wonder if he knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked? Maybe he was preparing? Or probably it was because we were at war with Japan. Interesting. Basically, I have read about FDR but apparently not enough because I did not know this. But I have read enough about him that I know he wouldn’t have been my choice if I had been old enough to vote at the time. There are so many politicians that have contributed towards this mess we are in, that it is appalling. A downhill slide for years and years.

        • Southern Belle

          Actually, back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work..

          Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal’s after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.

          And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million

          So, in reality there were three Presidents who supported amnesty. It CAN be done if we step up and rage against the machine.

          • Southern Belle

            Oooops!!! I meant to say that there were 3 Presidents who were OPPOSED TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. God, I hate it when the brain farts in the middle of a post!

    • John Carville

      Careful Claire!!! I fought alongside the 442nd Regimental Combat Team — an all Japanese-American outfit — in Italy in 1944. If anyone ever earned the right to be called “American,” those guys did. They had one of the best, if not THE best combat record of any outfit in the Army.

      • Claire

        John Carville–I was not condemning the Japanese Americans. Please re-read my post. sc and I were just discussing what FDR did while he was in office. If they were good soldiers fighting at your side that is great. I am all for our soldiers, regardless of race or creed. Please do not think otherwise.

        • John Carville

          Hello again, Claire — I owe you an apology —— which you just got.

          • Claire

            John Carville–No problem. I accept. I am all for supporting our soldiers. We have to take care of them. Literally. This administration better make dang sure our soldiers have all the supplies they need to take care of themselves. And we MUST take care of them when they come home. And they better get these VA hospitals cleaned/straightened up. The one in Marion, IL has been a disaster. I haven’t heard anything recently but they sure did have awful problems for awhile. The people in charge should have been run out of town on a rail. No, make that a camel, no, a burro. No, make them walk. The animals I just mentioned are better than these people were/are.

  • Joe H.

    Claire,
    They think the people are pissed off over health care??? Let this go through and they will see pissed off!! I have to agree with Glenn Beck. I believe they are trying to piss us off enough to make us get violent so he can call martial law!!! is he trying to see if Americans will die??? I don’t see what he hopes to accomplish other than that!! He is purposely trying to widen the gap between the haves and the have-nots to see if they will fight. Why?? Even a lot of the dems are deserting him in droves!!! One termer? indeed!!!

    • Claire

      Joe H–First of all, I sincerely respect you and your judgement. You are correct on many issues and I read all of your posts. However, I have really listened to Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Olbermann, Coulter, Maddow and others. I have read “between the lines” and while some of the things they say are correct, they always add their little “bits and pieces” of tidbits with the full intent of keeping the dissent going and growing. With some of the stuff they say, I really get the impression that they all WANT something bad to happen, they WANT trouble. I am not standing up for the current administration nor any of the past administrations, I just do not believe in adding fuel to the fire with the rebel rousing comments that the radio/tv entertainers make. I think they want to incite violence. Consequently I will no longer listen to any of them. I will find out what I need to know myself. I will use my common sense and figure out what is right and what is wrong. I will not depend on these people to make up my mind. I will come to my own conclusions about issues.
      Nothing will be achieved with violence-only death and destruction and the downfall of America. Violence begets violence.
      Martial Law- the current administration would be nuts to do this. If they do, then we will have to protect ourselves. Simple as that.

      • American liberal

        Claire… I agree that both Tv personalitys on the right and left seem intent on riling people up….it’s almost impossible to get real truth anymore…anywhere..it’s always us aginst them….and I believe I think you’re saying that itakes us the victims of these supposed news people…this site is a good example of how news gets twisted…. The news has turned into ” the entertainment business”… It’s a shame that riling people up is now entertainment..you won’t get any news from Fox or msnbc… More like propaganda..from both sides..

        • Claire

          American Liberal–I really believe what I posted. This may sound corny but I consider my husband to be the epitomy of honesty and good judgment. And when he stopped listening to them, and said he would find the truth himself, it made me sit up and think about it! Also, he is a fighter. He does not believe in violence but he will not put up with it either. He defends his rights and will stand his ground for what he believes in. He is very patriotic, and with him, America comes first. He is truly aggravated with the health reform issue and he knows a lot about it. Since he is retired, he has had a lot of time to find out the truth about a lot of issues. After 50 years of being together, I trust and believe him more than I would believe any administration. He is wise and a lot of what he has predicted has come true.

          • Joe H.

            Claire,
            I don’t let beck make up my mind for me but I do listen to him as he backs up what he says with fact!! I don’t think he wants anything to happen cause one of the first things that would happen under martial law would be to silence all stations that oppose the administration. that means he would be unemployed. If you watch though you can see the libs in and out of government trying to egg us conservatives on to violence. like Obummer saying Bring It on!!! If violence happens it will be due to those very types of words!!

          • Claire

            Joe H —-I agree. No politician should say words like that. They should realize that people can interpret their words in many different ways.

          • ted crawford

            Claire, your husband very definately has the right approach! I’ve heard Beck, on more than one occasion , encourage just this behaviour!
            I became involved with politics in 1968, after my tour in Vietnam. That was long before the internet, of course. I learned the value of the local Library. There one can access the contemporary documents, liturature,and correspondence. Usually I gleen a far different picture of events, past or present, than by listening to the radio, watching the t.v., or surfing the internet! I use the internet only to discover how some others feel and ,occasionally, find a new topic to research!

          • Claire

            Ted–No, we do not need these people or any politician inciting violence. Politicians from both parties have said radical things. They should get a grip and stop it. It is a matter of voting out the politicians you don’t want in office. If the Republicans gain control they will probably undo what has been done regarding health reform. If the Dems remain in control it will be more of the same. Who knows what will happen. I really don’t respect either party at this time.
            Regarding amnesty–it will be argued about for another year and who knows what the outcome will be?
            The economy and jobs should have been taken care of first. Then amnesty. And BIG SUPPORT for our TROOPS. We have to take care of them.
            These are just my thoughts and I stick to them. Regarding my husband, yeah he’s a doll. He is my rock. 50 years and we are still going. Thank the good Lord.

          • Joe H.

            Ted,
            Almost any information you can find at the library is on the internet!! I have voted in every election local and national since 1969 when I turned 18, the year before I turned 18 30 some days after the national election. A few years, while in the service, I voted absentee!

          • Claire

            Ted–I did not finish my post to you. I get on the internet a lot to find out stuff. I did watch a bit of TV earlier this evening. Polls–the same kind of poll on two different TV channels with different results. Why am I not surprised!
            I like to go to the library too but it is downtown, the town I live in closed all of the other branches because lack of money.
            So I head for the internet mostly.

        • Scott

          I second that, Beck has said over and over again, “DON’T BECOME THEM” As for Obama, I can’t believe we have the very epitomy of trailer trash running this country; the rude, ill-mannered, care for nothing way he speaks about Americans; and some of the words and phrases he uses- I expect better vocabulary coming out of a (pardon the pun) poor black gangsta livin’ in the ghetto

    • s c

      You’re right, Joe. However, I think we’d do better by showing the world how easy it is to get progressives hyperwhizzed by marching in the streets with banners, and show how an abortion is performed and exactly what to does to a baby.
      Isn’t it interesting how progressives love to crow about their ‘concern’ for mothers, but they have no use for babies? It stretches the imagination to believe they CARE, when a baby’s brain is being sucked out of its head in its mother’s womb.
      Take to the streets, and you’ll see RIGHT NOW just how wacko, demented and manic progressives can be, Joe (and get it on TAPE).

      • Claire

        sc—Although your post was to Joe, I do not believe in abortion.

        • Joe H.

          claire, neither do I except in the case of life and death to the mother.

      • Joe H.

        sc,
        Even better is how concerned they are for some of the worst scum in the world presently on death row yet they don’t give a second thought to an unborn child!!!

        • s c

          Exactly, JoeH. This is one of the many differences between a conservative and an ultralib. To them, babies don’t count because they can’t VOTE. Guess who’s working on making it possible for convicted felons to vote? You guessed it!
          To me, it’s NOT possible to be a caring adult when people have no use for babies, BUT KILLERS ARE PEACHY KEEN, SWELL FOLKS. THAT”S INSANE, JoeH (and an appropriate way of looking at ultraliberal progressives).

          • Joe H.

            SC,
            I bought a vid cam this year just to catch libbies in the act if possible, and I will do it!

      • ted crawford

        Many of these women out in the street, fighting for abortion, were out there in the 60s calling me a baby killer! The “babies” I killed earned me a purple heart and two clusters! I doubt the same can be said for the babies they are killing!

    • http://NONE COLLEEN

      Joe,
      My fear is one term will be too much for this country!

  • Jim H.

    We have a Congressional Hispanic Caucus and a Congressional Black Caucus, where’s our “bigoted” Congressional Caucasian Caucus? Is there a Congressional Asian Caucus? How about a Congressional Native American Caucus? They really should have a say in immigration.

  • Palin12

    Their proposal does not address what happens to illegals who don’t go along with the amnesty requirements and choose to remain illegal aliens. This is insane! A third of the prisoners in my state are illegal aliens. Once they see how easy it is to break our law to enter legally, it emboldens them to break even more laws. This includes some of the most violent criminals in the state who would kill you for $2. The democrats are doing this for one reason only, to get more votes and then all the illegals can get in on this health care fiasco too.

    • Joe H.

      palin12,
      It was reported today on the radio that more than 25% of the illegal aliens are on welfare. I think it’s higher than that but they can’t tell! even if that’s right and there’s only 12 million of them here, that’s still 3 million of them on welfare!!!

      • s c

        It’s very simple, JoeH. The wackos, kooks and space cadets in Washington and their wacked-out supporters (ultraliberal progressives) are BUYING VOTES. This is what they call “integrity.” Obummer probably calls it ‘transparency.’
        How is it possible that people who are so obviously INSANE get elected? How can these people be without a conscience? JoeH, if they’re main goal is another revolution, they’re very close to getting it.

        • Joe H.

          SC,
          I don’t know if DaveH is out there, he usually is. i heard the other day that Sheriff Joe Arapaio is trying to get a law passed saying it is illegal for illegals from any country to remain in Arizona subject to arrest!!! good for HIM!!!! Someone has a set to do what has to be done!!

          • Claire

            Joe H—Maybe this sheriff should run for office.

          • Palin12

            Sheriff Joe has the right idea! The prisoners are made to work in 120F weather and wear pink underwear for 28 cents an hour. They get 20 cent meals. The sign on the sheriff’s desk says “Don’t like it? Don’t come back!” I think the ACLU is upset because the poor prisoners don’t get to watch cable TV.

          • Joe H.

            Palin12,
            Actually they threatened to sue him on their behalf on that very point!! sheriff Joe took care of that real well. He installed cable and the only channel they have is the religeon channel!!!! I laughed out loud when I read that!!! And btw, the pink is prison coveralls and underwear!!! You can see those hot pink clothes a mile off!!!

          • Palin12

            LMAO!

      • http://naver Brady

        Really? 25% are on welfare? How can this be when giving welfare, or other aid programs, to foreign nationals is not authorized by our Constitution or our founding documents? I guess it doesn’t matter if someone bypasses the Constitution.

        • ted crawford

          We could ask obamas aunt! She’s an illegal,living in government housing! It seems obama wants us to give to care for our unrelated needy, while he ignores those within his own family

        • Palin12

          They give the welfare for the anchor babies, which the parents use.

  • American liberal

    Obama did not promise Amnasty… ” but he did promise to get something done… Of course the author of this aritical Is attempting to bend president real words….. This artical should have been titled..President Obama deals with another issue Bush ignored and pushed down to the next administration….. I hope president Obama deals with it better than Ronald Reagan did …. Reagan just granted them amnasty…. Was that for votes?

    • Joe H.

      he didn’t just push it on down the road. we kicked the reps in the tail and convinced them that we would vote them out if amnesty happened. 86% of the people were against it and that was messaged to them!!!

    • jomama

      Screw you, American Liberal!!

    • John

      b Hussein osama could not do anything as well as Reagan now. He has no qualifications for being in the White House (exceptfor doing what any good arrogant, self centered Muslim would do — ruining America) and boy is it ever becoming apparent (except for liberals like you).

  • American liberal

    Once again… More hypocracy from the right… These illegals did just come here since President Obama was elected….

    • American liberal

      ” didn’t just come here”

  • American liberal

    No administration has enforced the immigration laws…. And if they would fine employers that hire illegals we wouldn’t need reform … This isn’t a democrat/ republican issue….. It’s an issue where the law has been ignored by everybody..

    • Jim H.

      Yes, many administrations have dropped the ball. Who is going to have the courage to pick it up and run the right way with it? We do need to enforce the existing laws( without hindering or accusing the enforcer of racism). It isn’t a racial issue, Illegal is illegal no matter who is doing it. What will happen NOW. More of the same-o lame-o?

    • Joe H.

      Finally, American lib something we agree on. all the politicians except for a very few have been ignoring this problem for far too long!!! to have somewhere between 12 to 30 million illegals here when we have double didgit unemployment is a disgrace. the answer is to make Everify permanent and manditory, fine ALL employers that employ illegals, fine all landlords that rent to them, and if caught by ANY law enforcement agency DEPORT!!! This thing of saying that the cops can’t arrest illegals for immigration infractions is crap!!!

    • http://naver Brady

      American Liberal, I just want to say that in my home state of Indiana the governor, Mitch Daniels, has already had legislation passed dealing with illegal aliens. Since then, we have had more alien round ups, fined more businesses for hiring them, and had more jobs open up for Americans. Whoops! I forgot! Barack “Insane” Hussein Obama was elected president and now they’re all gone!

    • Pat R

      Fines for hiring illegals is not enough; they should shut each business down until the issue is thoroughly corrected! Let these business owners loose their income temporarily until they learn to obey the law also.
      If this were to be implemented; we might see a reduction in illegal hiring of illegal aliens!!

      • Joe H.

        Pat R,
        That would be ,in a lot of cases, be cutting off the nose to spite the face. what about all the legal americans that might be working at the said place of business? Lay off them too? Just fine them and make it steep enough that they don’t care to take the chance again and make each infraction worse!!! After so many, make the employer sell to somebody that will run it right, even the employees!!!

      • http://yahoo Nick

        Pat R.,

        I hate to be petty but this is for many people posting on the site and not just you……..would everyone please learn the difference between “lose” and “loose”. One “loses” at a game of cards and one carries “loose” change in their pocket. Just a pet peeve kind of like lines left on the chalkboard after it’s been erased. Thanks.

        • Claire

          Nick–we all make mistakes. I make typos. And I am an editor. But the difference is I am not as careful when I post on this site, I guess. At work it is different. I have to do a good job or I would not have been there for 40 years.

    • Claire

      I agree with you on this. Each administration left the issue to the incoming administration and on and on. None of them wanted to do anything about it.

  • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

    Obama an expert on Constitutional law should know that a usurper is ineligible for the Office of the President. One cannot faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States because;

    His every act in the usurped Office of the President is a criminal offense as an act under color of law that would subject the People to the deprivation of their constitutional rights, and entitling no obedience whatsoever from the People;
    As a usurper acting in the guise of the President you could not legally function as the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy and of the militia of the several states, as such forces would be under no legal obligation to remain obedient to you;

    No one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of your proclamations, executive orders or directives, as such orders would be legally VOID;

    Your appointment of Ambassadors and Judges to the Supreme Court would be VOID ab initio (i.e., from the beginning), no matter what subsequent actions the Senate might take as well as rendering any such acts by such appointed officials void as well;

    Congress would not be able to pass any new laws because they would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President, rendering all such legislation legally VOID;

  • laura

    I have mixed feelings about the whole thing.I TOTALLY believe that ALL immigration should be done legally, that is a fact, I also believe that all illegal aliens should NOT be here.I don’t think amnesty for them is the answer(because what they’ve done is a crime) the problem is so huge and out of control, I’m stumped! I do know this, there is a right way to do something and a wrong way and amnesty is probably not the right way. It will cost millions of dollars(either way) to attack this problem but something must be done.
    I also think there is an inherent weakness(by America,mainly obama) by allowing illegal aliens amnesty.Obama has already went around the world apologizing for “EVIL AMERICA” and by allowing amnesty to illegal aliens,that only solidifies our weakness. Maybe I’m wrong about this analogy.
    My mixed feeling is,I DO FEEL SORRY for the people of Mexico their government is so corrupt and the people are so poor I really can’t blame them for coming here, but we’re facing a corrupt government too.
    VIVA LA REVOLUTION !!!!!?????

    GOD BLESS US ALL
    ON THIS SABBATH DAY
    Laura

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Can you imagine how much it is going to cost legals to pay for illegals, I mean have you heard how many of them are here?

    • s c

      Kbab777, this crap is intentional. It is by design. We are having unnecessary problems rammed down our throats by useless scum who KNOW what they’re doing. Obummer knows. Everybody in Washington knows.
      The PEOPLE of America and America itself are being sacrificed on the altar of an incompetent, big government that thinks it is IMMUNE.
      Infamy is a very polite term for this prolonged insanity. Treason applies. Extreme stupidity is another fitting term. America has been “had” by generations of elected scum who used insanity, treason and extreme stupidity to get us where we are.

    • jomama

      They THINK it’s only 12 million illegal aliens. Wait until they find out how many there really is.

      • Claire

        jomama– I have a gut feeling you are correct.

        • Joe H.

          Claire,
          I have heard estimates as high as thirty million!!!

          • Claire

            Joe H—HI!!! I believe it. It would not surprise me one bit. I don’t know how in the world this government is going to deal with this. They let it go for too long and now there is a worse mess to deal with. And now the issue will drag on for a year. I hope I am wrong on this.
            I read some guy’s post about fema camps. Do you know anything about this? What is going on?

          • Joe H.

            Claire,
            I googled it last nite like suggested and I have to say it looked like a lot of paranoid people looking for trouble!!! I have been all over Camp Grayling both as a civillian and as a national guard. i haven’t seen anything they state and I think I would have!!!

          • Claire

            Joe H–What is this about microchipping that kate8 speaks of? This sounds insane.

  • Marilyn

    All that they have to do is make a law that says just because a child is born in this country dual or single citizenship WILL NOT BE BESTOWED UPON THAT CHILD OR ITS ILLEGAL MOTHER AND FATHER! It should be worded in such a way that all children EVER born in this country of illegal parents would fall under this law! I do not care if they are 50 years old. If they want to live and work here then they should have to come in the “right” way, by working through the citizenship class after legal admission to the country. Give ICE the manpower to round up all of these people and I guarantee a bunch of them would run for home before they got arrested! Then the border fence should be built as originally planned and be patrolled every minute of every day! Mexico should have to pay for the restoration of the once beautiful country in Arizona and neighboring states which has been destroyed by these people, to say nothing about the livestock and people who live close to the borders property and pets which have been killed! It can and should be done but you can bet the democrats and BO will not do it because they want the votes! They do not care if they are legal votes or not!

    • Joe H.

      marilyn,
      get Duncan hunter in and things will change on the border AND with the illegal question!!!

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Boy thats the truth. Illegals even tho small, have committed a crime by not coming legal so what do you get with rewarded crime? More crime.and just think there would be more jobs if they were enforcing the border watch = equals more jobs, less crime.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Obummer sounded like such a know it all smart aleck when he said “bring it on”

  • Plumbre pete

    These sellouts in Washington Will not Listen to the American People.They have demonstrated this again and again.
    I say that we should start impeachment procedings against the whole lot of them.

    • http://NONE COLLEEN

      Vote people vote!! Thats the only way to fix this! to think that 97% of encumbents get back in is really saying something, all of us on this forum need to make sure everyone we know votes in November!!!!! I am sooooo sick of hearing the bitching and no action, BRING IT ON!

  • http://tlawless100@gmail.com Thomas Morgan

    I find it amusing to read that all of you who call yourself liberals or conservatives or progressives or what have you will argue over muted points to say the least. These politicians have done a good job of class warfare would you agree? We The People are in this together. Use some good old fashioned common sense folks. Whether they be Democrat, Republican, Independent they have found that to divide us is to conquer. I say send them all a very clear message and vote them all out come November, even the ones we agree with, we can always vote them back in come the next election. This is truly the only way that I can see to let them know who is in charge (at least peacefully.) Remember my fellow patriots that if we do nothing but bitch about it then it’s bitches we get. Stand up for freedom!!!!

    • ted crawford

      I STRONGLY disagree!!! It’s my belief that the type of wasteful voting is exactly how we ended up with this corrupt administration!
      Last election far too many of us thought we would show those republicans and voted for democrates with out thought as to their qualifications! The problem was never republican, democrate in any case! It’s progressive, conservative! If we can focus on this in November, we can begin to correct the problems we have allowed to be created!

  • B.J. Holmes

    Abortion kills the innocent. But there are a few people now in power, whose mothers should have had an abortion. I can think of 50 or so in about 30 seconds. Killing them would not have been killing the “innocent”.
    God has allowed a bad winter to show Al Gore who is really in charge. Let’s hope the environmentalists figure it out while they, themselves, are wasting our resources

  • Cribster

    To hell with illegal aliens!

    We need to make life miserable for them. It’s become a birthright for Mexicans to waltz across the border and set up camp in America. They don’t even consider what they might do in their home country.

    They often leave jobs and family in Mexico, not the kind of people I want added to our population. They often have no education and no skills, they are a permanent burden. Then they start spewing out their spawn and raping our welfare system.

    We have to make it known loud and clear that they are not welcome here and there will be consequences for their abhorrent behavior. They came here on their own accord, no one dragged them. If families are split up it’s no ones fault but their own.

    The suffering needs to be transferred from the American citizens to those who blatantly break our laws and destroy the lives of citizens through their belligerence and selfishness.

    Enforce the laws on the books! Add another 10,000 border patrols agents on BOTH borders. Deport the bastards when they’re caught. Remove all entitlements, especially birthright citizenship. Make their lives miserable and we can reverse this trend!

    • Palin12

      You are absolutely right, they are mostly uneducated and unskilled. I see dozens of them hanging out in front of Home Depot everyday. Another nursery in town had to put up a chain-link fence around the parking lot as the illegals were descending upon drivers coming in, they toss their cigarette butts all over the property, urinate in the company’s bushes and harrass the customers. Send them all home!

      • Claire

        This sounds just like the homeless here in town. They camp out every night by the Main Library downtown. Feces and urine, cigarette butts, the whole nine yards. Disgusting.

  • Les

    With millions of Americans out of a job, not only do you have millions of illegal’s here taking jobs but there are 130,000 legal immigrants per month pouring in to make up a cheaper wage pool when and if jobs return.
    Greenspan summed it up when he testified in congress ” American workers have become too elite, we need the foreign workers to fill the jobs and occupy the foreclosed homes”, And none of your Congress people objected.

  • Rick Ostler

    We have to man up and apply a little tough love for our country. Yes, it is tragic to separate children from parents, but repeat after me, THAT IS HOW THEY FORCE US TO COWARDLY CAVE IN TO THEM. It is not much different than a divorce or restraining order when one parent is deprived of relationship with children. We MUST tell them, “Take your American citizen child back to Mexico with you, or leave it here as a foster child and go back!”
    And as to the idea we cannot arrest and deport 12 million illegals, it is too much of a task? What if 12 million Mexicans gathered at our borders and invaded? Too cowardly to kick them out?

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham

    From: S STEELE
    Subject: FW: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come, Jim.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.
    Just think how must money this action would save the tax payers!!!!!

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

    • http://naver Brady

      You sound like you have been reading or listening to Thomas Paine. If so, that’s great! We need to get back to the ways of our founding fathers. I’m also a member of the TEA PARTY. Many of these things, I think, Obama is trying to tell us to be tollerant to what’s going on. Remember what Aristotle said, “Tollerance is the last virtue of a dying society.”

      • Joe H.

        Brady,
        did you see al sharpton on ORiley tonite??? what a clown!!! and I don’t care what color he is! If he was white, he still would be a clown!!! He said he heard that he heard on a tape, the guy use the “N” word towards the congressman at the TEA party and bill said how there is NO tape. then sharpton started stuttering and arguing semantics!!! Real entertainment!!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    RECENT VIRGINIA CHURCH SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON

    I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in Virginia a hug and a high five.
    This guy is obviously a leader and not one of the sheep.
    Perhaps we should each decide who our real leader is….. It is amazing to see that very little has changed in 4,000 years.

    Good morning, brothers and sisters; it’s always a delight to see the pews crowded on Sunday morning,
    and so eager to get into God’s Word. Turn with me in your Bibles,
    if you will to the 47th chapter of Genesis, we’ll begin our reading at verse 13, and go through verse 27.

    Brother Ray, would you stand and read that great passage for us?
    ….(reading)…Thank you for that fine reading, Brother Ray… So we see that economic hard times fell upon Egypt ,
    and the people turned to the government of Pharaoh to deal with this for them.
    And Pharaoh nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses that he had built. So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a great tax increase,
    and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain. And this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.

    So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their livestock, their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey – to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through the end of that year..

    But the famine wasn’t over, was it? So the next year, the people came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left, except their land and their own lives. “There is nothing left in the sight of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we with our land will be servants to Pharaoh.” So they surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to Pharaoh’s government, and then sold themselves into slavery to him, in return for grain. What can we learn from this, brothers and sisters?

    That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider in hard times only leads to slavery?
    Yes.
    That the only reason government wants to be our provider is to also become our master?

    Yes.

    But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters! Thus Israel settled in the land of Egypt, in the land of Goshen…And they gained possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied greatly.” God provided for His people, just as He always has! They didn’t end up giving all their possessions to possessions to government, no, it says they gained possessions! But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous one.

    We see the same thing happening today – the government today wants to “share the wealth “once again, to take it from us and redistribute it back to us. It wants to take control of healthcare, just as it has taken control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and what kind. And if we go along with it, and do it willingly, then we will wind up no differently than the people of Egypt did four thousand years ago – as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

    What Mr. Obama’s government is doing now is no different from what Pharaoh’s government did then, and it will end the same.

    And a lot of people like to call Mr. Obama a “Messiah,” don’t they?

    Is he a Messiah?

    A savior?

    Didn’t the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves, “You have saved our lives; may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh”?

    Well, I tell you this, I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine; and Mr. Obama is no Messiah! No, brothers and sisters, if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.

    Bow with me in prayer, if you will.

    Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone.

    We confess that the government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be.

    We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel warned the people of what a ruler would do, where it says “And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”
    And Lord, we acknowledge that day has come. We cry out to you because of the ruler that we have chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray for revival, and we pray for deliverance from those who would be our masters.

    Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect Your people from the atrocities of Pharaoh’s government.

    In God We Trust…

    You may consider sharing this with others.

    Have a nice day.

    • Patsy Dye

      AMEN! I just sure wish more Obama zombies would read this and actually understand it as it is a glimmer into our future the way things are going right now. For all those American Blacks that think Obama can do no wrong, for those that hated the era of slavery in this country, well, they are headed right back to it and they are doing it willingly. It is a said thing. For those caucasian Americans that do not know anything about slavery, well, they are going to find out the hard way. I for one, do not want slavery ever again in this country and I will not allow it to take we over without a fight. Stand and let your voice be heard and let this administration hear your voice and denounce their agenda for our country.

  • Marilyn M

    I would like to respond to Joe H. Eisenhower deported 80,000 during operation Wet Back, but esimates believe that 700,000 to 1,000,000 fled due to the operation. FDR’s Presidency deported 400,000 as a result of the Great Depression. During the 1970′s 10,000,000. were deported. If they can do it then we can do it now. We now have one out of every seven Mexicans in America, if they are legalized there is no point to the border fence. La Raza is on the payroll of this administration. So it has cost the Americicans one trillion dollars in the underground, according to democratic Senator Wiley of N.Y. plus billions more State for State. Nancy Polosi also gave them 10,000,000 for lawyers in the fall of 2008 to help them. Don’t you find it odd they just want to legalize the Hispanics? Maybe they will add a few others just to make ikt look good.

    • Joe H.

      Thank you, marilyn, thank you indeed!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Marilyn, I have hunted for 20mins trying to find documentation about those 10 million you said were deported during 70′s. If that amount was successfuly deported, why did Reagan in the 80′s grant amnesty to 3.2 million?? Was he just too lazy to deport? You totals are not correct, how about a link showing the 10 million stats? A link would be nice to support the 10 million you claim Nancy gave to them.

      A few links to back up your statements would be nice.

  • Marilyn M

    I would like to make a correction. Senator Wiley is from the state of N.J.

  • Save America Susie

    It is NOT that Conservatives are against Immigration! They are against ILLEGALS! Everyone coming in should be approved for Citizenship, AFTER they are screened for Criminal backgrounds, just like they were in Ellis island, etc, 100 years ago. That Would be FAIR. The process just is too long now. When my grandfather came over from Northern Ireland, he didn’t have to wait the years & years people currently have to wait. It needs shortening; we just should NOT let in the criminals. That is the point of the immigration process. Many illegals have committed murder & rape crimes here! We should WELCOME people into Our Country, But we also should get to choose our citizens based on their good records….No Criminals need apply!

    • Joe H.

      Save America Susie,
      There was a little difference then. We still needed laborers to help build this great nation of ours. We don’t now. we have to do like Austrailia does in that they don’t allow immigration unless you have a skill they need!!! We need to do that, too! It has to be one that has a projected shortage as well!!

  • JPW-

    Claire Joe & sc: Truly enjoyed your input onFDR and the concentration camps for Japanese Americans. However here are the real facts. They were not concentration camps at all. They were fed government cheese so they became known as constipation camps.Also I looked up the term oxymoron in wikipedia and Rush Limbaugh came up.The after effects of abusing oxycontin are the acts of twirling ones arms and bouncing up &down. Knowing these facts will surely double your IQ,s Keep us all informed and we can teach each other

    • Claire

      JPW–You got it!

  • JPW-

    Oops; Forgot the topic was immigration. Have’nt seen the name of one real American on this site. Perhaps the American Indians don’t have computers. If you ask them none of us belong here. Food for thought//

    • JLC

      Hi JPW — For your enlightment, I am of American Indian extraction (Chiricahua Apache)which means absolutely nothing as long as we are all American citizens. I’ll go along with you, though, on one subject. It would be interesting to see how things would have turned out if we had had an immigration policy in 1492

      • Claire

        JWP–And I am of Danish, Swedish, Irish and German descent. Quite a mixture–but totally American.

    • http://yahoo Nick

      JPW,

      This news is as old as the hills. A little imagination and creativity would be warranted here.

    • Joe H.

      JPW,
      Now take your number nine out of your mouth as I also have native American ancestry on both sides of my family, Blackfoot, and Eastern Cherokee!!! My fathers grandmother was half breed Cherokee!!!

      • Joe H.

        Oh,and by the way. The Mexicans were not original either, they were mixture of spanish and local native American!!!! the spanish stole the land from the natives also!!!

  • Glen

    All we have to do is enforce existing laws and punish those who hire or rent housing to illegals. The illegals will have no job and no place to live. They will go home on their own. What we lack is national will. Politicians focus on the next election, well aware that yesterday’s illegal is tomorrow’s voter.

  • duh

    If you’re here illegally, get the hell out and take your anchor baby with you. This country is going down the toilet at the speed of light.

  • SHOWME

    I have a plan that I am convinced would work. It would solve two problems.

    [ 1 ] Non-supportive fathers. Any woman needing welfare for a child will be required to name the father possibility. DNA will determine the correct father. If he will not support the child, lock him in prison. At dawn the next morning take him to work, at what ever he is capable of. KEEP his earnings to support the child and pay his room and board.

    [ 2 ] On the same bus load any illegal that is working at that location. Charge the employer of the illegal the cost of transportation of the illegal back to the border. If the illegal has anchor children, they might get to be considered for LEGAL immigration if they pass all required criteria.
    I think we could solve two problems.
    There would not be so many fatherless children
    The illegals would soon get the message to stay away
    The employers would not hire ILLEGALS if they had to pay if caught

  • Patsy Dye

    To all of those out there that seem to agree with the whole amnesty thing, I feel sorry for you. That makes you part of America’s economical recession problem!
    Obama and the dems only want the latinos to be citizens for one reason and one reason only…they need their votes in November in order to keep their control of power and in order to do that, they are willing to give these CRIMINALS amnesty, therefore legitamising their breaking our laws, which will only send the wrong message to hundreds of thousands more illegals what will come into our country illegally. What part of any of this do you morons not understand? Example…look at California! A state that is broken largely because of ILLEGALS! Why would they come here legally when they can come here illegally and get all the benefits our stupid government allows them, compliments of OUR TAX DOLLARS! I know there are some that just want a better life, but they should come here the right way and stop sneaking across our borders! A better idea is for them to stay where they are at and take their country back and make it a place they would want to stay and live and work and be proud of.
    I’m sick and tired of hearing that they are here to take the jobs Americans are too lazy to do. Well, look around and tell me how many of those Americans are now looking for jobs of ANY KIND and just how many jobs are still being held by illegals? At some point, the American people need to make a stand, take a stand and do whatever it takes to stop this madness in Washington. VOTE ALL POLITICIANS OUT OF OFFICE IN NOVEMBER AND IN 2012 AND BEYOND. We need to clean out that snake pit called ‘capital hill’!

  • Patsy Dye

    One last thing…..just how much would it cost to round all illegals up and deport them? I’d bet it would cost less of our tax dollars than what our government is wasting on a daily basis on crap this country could do without and it would save us, the taxpayers, a lot of money in the long run. I would rather see the idiots in Washington spend money to deport illegals than allow them to stay here and let them continue to eat away at every social program our hard earned tax dollars has to offer. Those programs are supposed to be for AMERICANS not illegals!

    • Claire

      You go, girl. I agree with you.

    • Joe H.

      Patsy Dye,
      i would hope that by now there aren’t too many that believe that old BS about them only taking jobs that Americans don’t want to do!! there are carpenters, drywallers, construction workers, welders, painters and mechanics in Texas, New Orleans, and Mississippi. In Georgia, there were illegals working at a meat packing plant working for an AVERAGE wage of 12.00 an hr. they rounded 30 of them up and deported them the very week this happened, the jobs were filled by Americans. Does this sound like a job that Americans don’t want to do when the jobs were filled in less than a week???

  • Mark

    What a lot of people don’t realize is that most illegal Mexicans don’t want to get citizenship. Many do but most don’t. The reason being ( and think about this one ) is that they will then have to pay taxes out of their paychecks and suddenly take home a lot less money. When you make 5 dollars an hour with no deductions at all taken from it, it’s about like making 15 dollars and hour with the normal deductions. I was married to a Hispanic woman for 14 years so I know what goes on in their minds. I’m going to laugh when the Democrats give them so-called amnesty and most of them don’t show up to take advantage of it and then they don’t all those “new voters” they thought amnesty would guarantee them!!

  • http://gmail i41

    First, the anchor babies was started by drunk T Kennedy, second the easist way to clean up immigration, is put a bounty on their heads. $5000.00 a head, and that way the hospital and counties could save over $5000.00 per illegal. Second after caputure inplant a chip in their necks, so if they get back in ,and are rounded up again the bounty hunter would get double the amount. Indians wandered over from the ice sheets. They killed and caoutured other small tribes. Find out how Indian Healthg Services works, if you think our healthcare bill isn’t a giant screw up. As for all the moaning about people on government programs I think more people would get better care at a greatly reduced price, if the programs were elimated.. Since, in the healthcare bill, doctors can not build their own hospital or clinic. At present several surgrey centers will be closed due to the bill. You pinheaded, liberal, socialists, communist leaning dems are the biggest scrouge on America. Show me a dem, and I show you a self center, sorry assed excuse of a,40 year old mama’s boy, who cann’t take cre of himself or his family or his spawn. Of course some never get married or have a family because they cann’t find a pregant female. I used to think Odumazz was following Hilter, but I think it is more like Stalin. If you disagree you are a disappearing act. But he does have the ellequoance of Hilter and his thug gang. Since dems have screwed up grain production and our grain stocks have never lower than now. If there is any problems in getting grain planted, growing, or harvested, check out Stalin’s great die off that killed several millons. The dems created the Conservation Reserve Program to idle millions of acres of farm ground, paying farmers and ranchers several millions to not grow crops for almost 30 years. More welfare demo”rats” cring they need more help.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I was just googling images today and found 800 fema death camp locations then on americanthinker.comswineflupath there is activity taking place that martial law may be declared since obama ordered 400,000 peace keepers on our own soil

    • eyeswideopen

      KBab777, so, Obama, knew he was going to be elected and had those camps built before he won the election…. Those sites have been recorded on film prior to his being elected Pres. You people are something else. Here is link, showing info back in Jan 2006. Had nothing to do with Obama. http://revlu.com/camps.htm

      You radicals need to read more, or at least notice the dates on things you read. Need to ask the previous admin, what those camps are for. LMAO.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I also saw the double decker “death trains” eqipped with shackles and all I guess Glen Beck was too afraid to believe death camps really exist.

  • Claire

    The state of Illinois will be laying off 460 State Troopers. The illegals will have a ball. I55 is a corridor for transporting them up north. The crooks and thieves and drunks will be playing catch-up. I was stopped a few years ago in my full-size Chevy van. I know the troopers were surprised when they found out I had 5 show dogs and no illegals or pot.

  • James Corbin

    To give amnesty ot the illegals—-is nothing more than Obama wanting their votes for relection!!!!

  • http://none philip biggins

    OBAMA IS A bought and paid for Socialist “Pied Piper” , a Henry Kissinger protoge. His job is to eliminate the middle class, finish destroying the economy (he is doing a marvelous job of that , already spending more of your grandchildren’s future than ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED!!!!) They have effectively destroyed the manufacturing base, nationalized (Socialized) your health “care” system, lied through their teeth about the supposed “savings” it will create!! HAHHHAAHHAHHAA IF the USA has the “best health-care system in the world”(as they like to call it) why does the USA have the fattest, most “legally drugged” and most unhealthy people on earth!!!????(no disrespect intended, but facts are facts, unfortunately, so deal with the truth) If they were truly going to improve the health system , why not get programs happening to improve exercise, improve eating habits, control use of chemicals in foods,etc., etc. The reason is the same as the reason for this Heath Bill, pressure from the Pharmaceutical lobbyists who, by the way, are responsible for most of the Bill’s content!! Next will be elimination of “Nutritional Supplements” since they are a direct threat to the Pharmaceutical Big Shots and the AMA since healthy people don’t require “drugs”. That scares the shit out of them. They are NOT here to help you with your health, they are here to get you “hooked” on “legal” drugs!! DRUGS ARE DRUGS!!!! Recess in school would be a good start! Promote individual responsibilty for their own health, educate your doctors about nutrition so they have at least a remote CLUE as to how the body works and how it uses nutrition. That would be different , a doctor who actually studied nutrition and how the body uses and requires it. I, personally , would rather see a Veterinarian than a MD for health related issues! At least the Vet has a chance of making an appropriate diagnosis. As always , DIVIDE AND CONQUER is still the Order for the day by the OBUMMER Socialist Regime. Oh yes!! So much for the American Constitution!!!!! This is a sad time indeed for N. America and the world in general as we sit here letting the Banking Cartel run the world finances into “ONE WORLD ORDER”, as has been planned for a LONG TIME!!! And the truth shall set you free!!! All you have to do is take the time to do some due diligence !!! This is it for the USA!!! NEVER will you see the USA rise again as we morph into the already set up UNION OF N. AMERICA with the already minted AMERO as the new “currency” backed by a PRINTING PRESS and nothing else!! WHAT A TRAGEDY!!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN SOLD OUT!!!!!!!!!

    • John

      Philip, Please show some links to back up your absurd claim “already spending more of your grandchildren’s future than ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED!!!!) ”

      GWB spent more money than all previous presidents but so far the numbers indicate that Obama is simply spending like a republican…

      GWB national debt increase for 2008 1.5 trillion.
      Obama 2009 1.6 trillion.

      http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

  • http://none philip biggins

    As far as illegal aliens are concerned, that is also part of the plan to destroy America. I thought illegal meant just that, illegal??? Does it mean something different in the USA??? Obummer , your supposed “leader” doesn’t even show enough respect to place his right hand on his heart when they play your national anthem but stands with his hands by his side , looking around , totally uninterested! I was shocked to see him do that, it is total DISRESPECT, in my opinion !!!! Then i was stunned to see Obummer and his wife(she said that “for the 1st time in my life i am proud to be an American”) BOTH standing on the podium while the US National Anthem was being played and they both had their LEFT HANDS ON THE RIGHT SIDE????? Anothe r BLATANT SHOW OF DISRESPECT BY the OBUMMERS!! Makes me sick to my stomach just to look at them now!!!!! You folks made a MASSIVE MISTAKE electing this SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST mouthpiece!!!!! May God help you, Obama sure won’t !!

    • Palin12

      O One
      B Big
      A Ass
      M Mistake
      A America!

  • chuck b

    philip biggins

    it wasn’t me that made the mistake.i recognized this con artist from the first time he spoke on national tv. this guy is not an intellect, he’s just smarter than the liberals that voted for him, thats why they think he is so intelligent. he is nothing but a mouth piece for the real brains steering him from the back ground, thats where the danger hides. as for the national anthem, he can’t be blamed, he probably doesn’t know any better and has no allegiance for this country.

  • http://Acorndisbanding? Melody

    What makes you think the illegals if made legal would vote Democrat? Most of them that came here are not looking for hand out, but are ambitious, and hard working… and do not believe in abortion, or the homosexual agends, and have a spiritual belief. and traditional marriage beliefs…democrats do not share these beliefs. Seems to me…that would make them a vote for Republicans.

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      My Dear Melody, If you actually believed what you said: “What makes you think the illegals if made legal would vote Democrat? Most of them that came here are not looking for hand out, but are ambitious, and hard working… and do not believe in abortion, or the homosexual agend[a]s, and have a spiritual belief. and traditional marriage beliefs…democrats do not share these beliefs. Seems to me…that would make them a vote for Republicans”, then i’d expect to find you “Womaning” the barricades. They most certainly do tend to strongly vote the Democrat ticket until they (or their children, or unless they’re from communist Cuba)) have a stake in this country. Then the Democrats tend to demonize them. Just like Clarence Thomas or Condoleezza Rice are for not remaining with the liberal view of where their “Race” should be.

    • John

      Are you living in Fantasy Land? Handouts are the very reason they’re here they are all working the system and the cost is astronomical. The ILLEGALS are that because they aren’t qualified and don’t want to be a citizen. Everything free and no taxes is a really good deal.

  • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

    Mr Livingston;
    I would have to agree with F.A.I.R. Obama IS buying votes with his amnesty proposals/plans. He already bought votes from the illegals in Nov. 08 by using “selective” rhetoric during his presidential campaign. If he manages to pass his planned amnesty program, he and the liberal socialists, will in fact have another 15 to 20 million LIBERAL SOCIALIST votes, and we will not be able to stop their headlong rush to their utopian One World Order.
    If Obama and his liberal socialist congress are successful with their amnesty plans, we will NEVER see another conservative or moderate P.O.T.U.S. or congress, and we will no longer be the “America” that we all grew up in. We will be nothing more, than the little “ugly cousin” belonging to the Chinese, and Russian one world government.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Note to one and all: It’s “Illegal Alien”. In law and in fact. (To paraphrase the most famous line from the movie “Treasure of the Sierra Madre”: “¿Passporto’s? ¡We don’ need no stinking passporto’s!”) Anyway: “Don’t Worry, Bob’s here!” That was the punch line from a rather memorable commercial for a temp agency from a few years ago. I took that line, applied it to illegal immigration and came up with the following tongue in cheek essay: “Don’t worry, B.O.B.’s here!” “B.O.B.” stands for “Bag limit? Or Bounty?” (If Bounty, “Dead or Alive?”) It went on from there. Unfortunately, it’s lost somewhere in the old, real old computer it was created on. You, however, I believe, get the idea. I have also suggested that we fire up the nation’s “Mothball Fleets”, work out a suitable deal with say, Argentina’s Terra del Fuego, or Singapore, or maybe Somalia, to serve as debarkation point(s) and have Mexico (or whatever country of origin applies) pay us a barrel of oil a day (or week, or month) for each and every day an illegal is here. These ships would be convoyed all the way with US Navy protection on training exercises in the area(s) involved. Another suggestion I’ve made over the years was to clear a ten to twenty five mile wide swath along our southern border – salt water to salt water – and turn this strip of land into a live fire, combat training range subject to continuous, unannounced live fire exercises. From small arms to howitzers, aerial bombardment to shore batteries, booby traps to bouncing betty’s. 24 hours a day, everyday of the year, there will be continual and unpredictable live fire exercises and armed patrols, aided by UAV’s (unmanned aerial vehicles) equipped with electro-optical/infrared sensors, with standing orders to interdict all attempts to go through, under, around or over this combat training ground and intercept all trespassers. Then, when convenient, remove them to a staging area to be subjected to a biometrical scan and entered into a national database, then unceremoniously taken to the nearest border crossing and sent packing immediately. Oh, yes. It should be called the General “Black Jack” Pershing Military Reservation. Why? “In 1916 Pancho Villa and his bandidos raided the town of Columbus, New Mexico, and in response President Woodraw Wilson sent General John “Black Jack” Pershing into Mexico after him. Back then, American authorities at least did something when the border was violated.”

  • eddie47d

    It’s amazing how Europeans can travel between multiple countries and speak several languages.We in America can’t stand anyone who doesn’t speak English only. Unless we are waring with another nation we want to be isolationists and have absolute power. Anybody different than us we scorn,mock,and want to destroy. We act just like the Arabs,our way or the highway. When it comes to immigrants go after the capitalists who brought this cheap labor to our country,not the workers who are just doing their job. Maybe we should put a few CEO’S in jail for creating this mess and taking away jobs from Americans.

    • John

      It’s not the fact we can’t stand anyone that doesn’t speak English it’s that we don’t want Spanish to become our National language nor do we want to pay for them to learn English. All REAL immigrants did it the RIGHT way like the old ELLIS ISLAND procedure, They all were proud to become US citizens, learned to speak English, became a contributing members of our society AND were DAMNED PROUD of it. THey were not a drain on our economy like the scum that Mexico is sending us.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    ¡Yo! Eddie 47 Delta, Guess you haven’t been to Quebec or to France, have you. Yes, in Europa die leute sprechen ihre eigene Sprache. And, because they’re so close together (Hell. Some nations are smaller than Rhode Island!), and were isolated from one another for countless centuries because of transportation limitations, cultural fears and outright hostilities, they developed their own spoken and written languages well before The Enlightenment, let alone the industrial revolution.

  • http://att.net Deborah

    It’s the politician’s who want the illegal here. They want a voting block and an issue to run on. Poor illegal alien’s they just want a job, a home, free health care, college education for their children. Sound’s like the same thing’s we want. Problem is, their not citizens. Their not entitled to these privelege’s. I’m sorry, but, where are our rights. Why does the illegal alien have more right’s than the American citizen. Why are we expected to pay for people who break our law’s; why are the law’s only enforced against American citizen’s. We elect these politician’s to represent us. They don’t. They represent themselves and force us to accept law’s they themselve’s are not subject to.

  • Boo Ewald Taylor

    I’m comvinced that Obama is trying to destroy our way of life. I’m trying to see his point of view, but I can’t. Everytime I get used to something new he’s forced Congress to do, something else is getting ready to go to hell. I am tired of it, I’m tired of being ignored by Congress. It is so obvious that he is not one of US. He was born outside the country and raised outside the country, only came here to do political misgivings by puppet, and I feel there is some sort of payback involved in his mission to destroy us. Call me crazy, but I think it’s time to put a stop to all this madness, before the country is financially and fundamentally broken. I will die before I become dependent on the government.

    • keith

      amen to that!these illegal parasites need to go!as someone who has been in the commercial construction trade for 24 years now i have watched them infiltrate and invade our jobs.they are arrogant,due suck a** work and i have seen them do some really nasty crap,like come behind a american contracter who has payed all the $$ to get insurance,worker comp and then underbid them so low they get the work.i saw them consistantly do this in galveston tx after we had went down there looking for work.we were remodeling houses and doing the tear outs and as we were looking at houses and talking to the owners or developers these sorry assed wetbacks would ride around and see our trucks and they would wait till we left and then cut our throats by vastly under bidding us.we finally caught one of them doing this and lets just say i doubt he’ll soon forget the out and out a** whupping he got that day!
      i have seen them steal,lie,cheat and use you would’nt beleive tactics and stratigims to get illegals on jobs and avoid paying taxes,i’ve seen have false i.d’s,workers comp papers,magnetic signs on their brand NEW trucks to make em appear legit,you would’nt beleive the crap i’ve seen em do!i know,as my trade is construction work i have seen them with my own eyes do this and more.
      i have had tools stolen from me and my buddies.just to relate a couple of examples for those who have never sealt with this crap or seen it for themselves,one time i was on a scaffold working on the exterior of bldg and my partner dropped his level,a nearly brandnew 6′ level,it landed like a spear and stuck in a pile of sand,we SAW a arm come through the window opening and take it.we both immediatly shed our tools and i went one way,my partner the other.we caught this theiving scuzz and kicked the dog snot oughtah him right there.he was a costa rican who was working for a mexican drywall pimp(a guy who supplies hangers to a g.c for a flat rate).on another job i was at lunch and had a brandnew black & decker drywall screwgun come up gone.it was a fairly big job,so i told the boss to clock me out,i was going on a quest to find my friggen screwgun,it was $109.00 screwgun so you can bet i was pissed!finally i made it to the 5th floor and came across a MEXICAN hanger working with some more,4 of them to be exact,one of them on the scaffold had a black painted screwgun,i asked to see it and the friggen idiot was stupid enough to let me hold it.the paint was still tacky!i scraped the paint off where i knew my initials should be and low and behold,there my initials are!!then this goofy throughly stupid wetback trys to lie to me telling me some b.s he had bought the gun,i was going to just walk out the room,but another dumb wetback trys to grabb MY damn gun out my damn hand!!!!here i am ALREADY mad as hell,my BRANDNEW screwgun was stolen,this dickwad had PAINTED it,and now one of these mexican idiots goes and does something to REALLY piss me off.i say idiot cause i’m 233 pounds,stand 6’2 and have been hanging and framing for 21 years(happened a while ago),so i nailed him right upside his head,then i preceeded to threaten them all with instant nasty death with a 4′ level i picked up and left.by this time,several of my buddies have shown up and that was that as they say.
      i could tell incident after incident of the stuff i have seen in over 24 years.but you get the picture.
      they DO NOT spend there money here,they send it back home.these pricks get tax brakes we would NEVER GET!!!i have seen these guys drive around in brandnew trucks i could never afford cause they get them tax free.
      i have seen one of them who is barley legal,who speaks halfway good english get a buisness licence(NOT A CONTRACTOR LICENSE) and then supply tools to ILLEGAL mexicans and other south of the border &^$#%%^^& and ”float them” on worker comp that is or should cover at most 2 to 3 workers.instead of regular checks,they get payed at the home of the guy who they work for in cash so nothing will show on paper except the 2 to 3 guys that are barely legal.i have gotten two of pricks busted by finally finding out where they lived and taking vidio for proof.
      i have had them actually talk smack to my face about they have all our work,a mistake as i start boiling right then and want to do gratutious violance to them instantly,usually i resist the urge and desire,but when i can get away with it,yyaahhoooo!!!!!
      i have seen jobs that are large and FILLED with them and me and my buddies had to go w/o work because the g.c stated they had enough framers and hangers.thats when i get on the phone and send phone vidio to i.n.s,both state and national and then alert the union hall,even if ain’t a union job,i know they WILL move on it.there where so many friggen south americans doing hurricane work that several of us who went over there could’nt even find any work!!!!
      at one site in mobile ala,a mexican told my buddy,”you go home,this is our job!”,i’m not making this up!my buddy decked em right there in the parking lot and we drove off.
      they are a drain,they are theives,scumm,take our jobs and they need to be ALL hauled back in mass back to the scumm hole they came from!!
      that may sound harsh i know,but unless YOU have went hungry and jobless while watching them do shitty work on a site that a legal AMERICAN CITIZEN should be on,then you’ll understand.
      i have seen them hauled off of a job in mass and then on the very same job not two weeks later some of the very same ones show back up!thats how fast their smuggling operations work!!!then i get to have fun making phone calls!!!!!!!
      thats just some of what i have ran into,theirs more than that i could tell,but you get the jist of it.
      amnesty???HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
      just goes to show ol comrad barack HUSSEIN obama don’t give a rats behind about american workers!!!!!!
      if i say anymore i’ll go into a rant,so i’ll cease here.last i got to sat is this,GIVE THE AVAILABLE JOBS TO AMERICANS FIRST!!!!!!!THEY DESERVE THEM!NOT SOME WETBACK OR OTHER SOUTH AMERICAN WHO DID NOT EARN THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT.IF THEY WANT TO BE A CITIZEN MAKE THEM SERVE IN THE MILITARY FIRST!THEN THEY EARNED IT!

      • keith

        if i had my way,not only would there be a fence that would make the one the russkies put up in berlin look like a garden wall,i would use a gaziilion freakin mines!

  • http://www.facebook.com Magee, Robert

    @Keith and many others who have expressed similar views against immigrants, your views ignore that you all are just God’s creature brought to this world by the will of GOD and that if your forefathers were not allowed to come to United States of America as immigrants you would not be calling United States of America home and therefore, your view would be totally irrelevant today.As for natives’ views against immigrants I will not comment.

    What is wrong in any view we may have as Americans is that we are indeed selfish, inconsiderate and quite envious against those who have come searching for economic opportunity. Opportunity we all have seen dwindling for us all in the world not United States only, but the rest of the world. Is it because of immigrants? Probably and because of you the world has less and less opportunity available to us all.

    I might say what we need is not turning against them but searching for ideas to get us out of the predicament we find ourselves. That is the answer and that is what United States of America is all about. In this I believe strongly in United States of America even though I am only a resident of the United States.

    Third view is that a nation favored to lead the world cannot be in business to call 12 million people criminals or illegals when there are so many Americans scattered all over the world working and denying natives of those countries to have a descent job they hold in their positions.

    Therefore,I say this that Americans need to stop being peevish and start leading or get out of the way others can lead the rest of the world where we have failed to lead. This is the view of the rest of the world and you have nothing you can say about it because ones we are removed from leading we no longer have even the opportunity enough to go around for only Americans. Think of that Keith, and be modest in your view about amnesty and your total wall of isolation. In which case no one will purchase our products and we will not buy from anybody. That will be total defeat against the USA.

    America stinks on human rights watch when it comes to other countries we want to raise voices that they are mistreating their residents and citizens. America needs to clean up its act first and straighten up immigration processes not find scapegoats to exploit individuals just because they are searching for opportunity.

    You are entitled to economic opportunity and they are human beings entitled to the same economic opportunity you seek. Amnesty is right for America in the face of the world that we lead.

    • keith

      obviously if you read my post,nothing sunk in that brain of yours and the point of my post went way over your head.you don’t do construction for a living do you???i would hazerd i guess and say you sit in some cobicle somewhere and have never seen nor dealt with the effects of all the things i brought up.so you just live in your own insolated la la land and think this is’nt a problem.
      well i and thousands of out of work experianced journeymen and tradesmen are out of work BECAUSE of the illegals you want to just give amnesty.on top of the way obamass is screwing up our country and these illgal parasites we are being screwed!!!!!enough is enough!!!

    • Palin12

      You are totally out of your mind! As I have said before, these people come here ILLEGALLY, willfully breaking our laws and going to the head of the line past honest people who do it the right way. Once they see how easy that was (entering) many are emboldened to commit more crimes. That’s why in my state one-third of the prisoners are illegal aliens. Even the ones that don’t commit violent crimes cram 12-15 people into a 3-BR house and park 7-10 junk cars everynight in front of not only their own house but adjoining properties and tear down the property values on the whole street. Obummer wants amnesty just for millions more votes knowing full well the house and senate will lose lots of democrats in November. NO AMNESTY!

      • keith

        hopefully we the rupublicans can forestall this untill the democrats get their comuppance at the poles,the coming elections are going to be a rude awakening for them!

    • Joe H.

      Magee,
      The U.S. stinks on humanrights?!?! Try to enter China illegally and work, Or England, Spain, Italy, France, or any number of other countries. Try to immigrate to Austrailia. you better have a skill or trade they need!!! In most countries if you try to sneak across the border and are caught you go to jail if not shot!!! Oh, and at the beginning I told you to try to enter China illegally? Pay up your life insurance first!!!!

  • Jedie

    I have three problems with amnesty for illegals. First of all we would be rewarding illegal behavior. Yes, by our constitution it is illegal behavior. I have several friends from other countries who have tried to become American citizens the legal way. It is very time consuming, frustrating, and not to mention expensive. They are willing to do all of this because they love this country and want to assimilate and become a productive member of society. It is not fair to all those that come to America through the appropriate channels. I have no problem with legal immigration. I have a HUGE problem with illegal immigration. We have no idea who is crossing our borders. It could be the next terrorist or mass murderer. Who knows if we aren’t keeping track of them? You can bet the American government has all kinds of information on us why not track the illegals.

    Secondly, I know this is going to tick some people off, but I believe that this administration is now pushing immigration reform so that they can have millions of new voters that will vote for them. After a very unpopular bill that just passed and many voters saying they will vote out their Democrat congressmen, the only recourse is to add new voters that vote traditionally for Democrats. There’s no easier way for Democrats to stay in power than add 12-15 million illegal immigrants to their voter base. This may sound cynical but if it’s true Americans will no longer have true representation. We will only have one party,and that party seems extremely corrupt right now.

    Thirdly, if these illegals are granted citizenship they will qualify for every kind of assistance out there. I don’t know about you but I’m almost broke from all the taxes I pay. I’m trying to raise three children and teach them to work hard because it will pay off. Now, I’m not so sure that’s what I should be teaching them. The reality is if they work hard the government can take it all from them and give to someone else. That’s a hard pill to swallow. I grew up very poor on a farm. My parents stressed get an education so that I couldn succeed. That’s exactly what I did, but now I feel like I was deceived. I feel like right now in this country if you have even an okay job that you should feel guilty for it. Therefore, the government will come along and take it from you. If all these illegals do become citizens than they better pay their fair share of the taxes because soon people like me will have nothing left. We will work to provide for others and nothing else.

  • http://www.facebook.com Magee, Robert

    I still maintain you are behaving like spoiled brads you need to travel a little and experience some life elsewhere. In my country of origin 30 Americans in my neighborhood hold jobs if I were to return some will have to be expelled back to United States where they could not hold similar job unfortunately.

    You are telling us we should go back hold our jobs where we came from and kick American out because they have no right to hold a job when there are enough qualified natives to hold that Job. I think you are crazy. If people in the world treated one another this way we will not have a civilized world.

    American in my neighborhood are spreading Americanism and foreign nationals in America are helping you understand that you are not alone in the world. America is a leader of the world and that is what other countries want including Mexico or Latin American countries. Their people in this country are not illegal they are searching for economic opportunity.

    They have every right to do so in the world we live in, just compete and you have every opportunity open to you as a citizen of this country to be the best you want to become.I like America because I can do whatever I can that is legal to survive. For instance, I do not have to take any body’s credit to survive in America. I do not need to take your job either.

    I can create my job if I wanted. I only take credit because I want to participate to promote America. That cannot be a bad thing to America. Just compete if not keep whining. The rest OF you need to understand your country it’s rules and what it stands for first before blaming those who have come to help American economy remain viable.

  • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

    Robert MaGee: You didn’t say what country you were from so I have to assume the 30 Americans you mentioned were there legally and this is the point.

    I welcome all people from other countries as long as they come here under legal conditions and it has been proven they have contributed greatly. I live in Florida where there is large number of both legal and illegal immigrants.
    We have an unknown number of illegals working the farms and orchards and are ignored by the local law enforcement. They contribute to the economy but they also are involved in crime, using forged documents for Social Security and Driver’s Licenses, an area the law enforcement and Federal Agents does go after. The local hospitals are obligated to treat the illegal immigrants to include those giving birth. You know who pays for this. We are talking about 12 to 14 million illegal immigrants. It is a burden especially since this State is facing a 3.5 billion shortfall in the budget. We just can’t afford to keep doing this.

  • James

    An American just entered North Korea illegally, and he was arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to 18 years of hard labor. Why don’t we do that with our illegal aliens?

  • Ralph Mitchell

    Solving the problem is actually simple. Establish heavy penalties for companies and individuals who hire illegals. No jobs and illegals will stop comming and others will go home.

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