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Arizona Legislature Passes ‘Birther Bill’

April 18, 2011 by  

Arizona legislature passes 'birther bill'Arizona lawmakers have approved a bill that would require Presidential candidates to prove they are natural born citizens of the United States before their names are placed on state ballots.

The legislation, which has been nicknamed the "birther bill," was passed by a 40 to 16 vote in the State House of Representatives on April 14. It needs to be signed by Republican Governor Jan Brewer before it becomes a law.

State Representative Carl Seel (R-Phoenix), the bill's sponsor, has repeatedly said that the measure is not targeted at President Barack Obama. However, the questions surrounding Obama's citizenship status have created a "birther" movement across the U.S., which includes Donald Trump, a potential GOP Presidential candidate and reality TV star.

"It's not about that," said Seel, quoted by CNN. "It's about future elections and maintaining the integrity of the Constitution."

In a recent interview with ABC News, Obama claimed that the "birther" argument will only serve to help his own cause in a general election. He added that an individual who harps on the citizenship issues "doesn't have any horns," or political substance.

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  • Michael J.

    With what I know of Jan Brewer, she will sign this bill. Obama will have to prove eligibility in order to be on the ballot in Arizona. If he declines and decides to ignore Arizona it will be interesting to hear his justification for such a move.

    A dictator named Hussein was recently hanged for multiple crimes perpetrated against his own people. Arizona is no doubt prepairing for costly reprisals aimed at it and it’s governor that will exceed the price of rope, but will be worth every penny.

    • Doc Sarvis

      All documentation and HI state officials on both sides of the political fence verify that President Obama was born in that state. Birthers have no valid arguments on this issue and probably many others.

      Yawn.

      • Dennis

        LMAO,
        And what state is his s/n from ? it doesn’t belong to him, its belongs to some dead person from Connecticut, you would aleast think that mister brain dead ( that would be Obama to you ) would have used a s/n from some dead person from Hawaii. Thats just one of many mistakes he has made in his lie.

      • Protonius

        Sorry, “Doc Sarvis”, but your assertions above are precisely the opposite of what the evidence shows.

        No actual, original, genuine, long-form, “Birth Certificate” has been released for view to either the public or to Congress or to the U.S. Supreme Court (or to any Federal or State court) or even to the Federal Election Commission. A simple verbal or published claim, whether by an official of an agency or a State or even by anyone in the Federal Government, is no more than a personal (or, perhaps, an official) assertion of a belief — but it is not proof.

        Even Hawaii’s current Governor, Neil Abercrombie, after “promising” that he would get to the bottom of this and would access and reveal Obama’s actual “Birth Certificate” for all to see, was — allegedly — blocked from doing that by Hawaii’s pricvacy laws — or so his office claimed — and dropped the matter.

        Yet the record also shows that a reportedly now-former employee of the Hawaii vital statisics office, where birth records are kept, signed a legally-notarized affidavit — which could subject him to perjury if itäs shown that he’s lying — in which he stated that department-officials assured him that there is NO Obama “Birth Certificate” on file there whatsoever.

        There is so much more to this issue, which any objective, diligent, research will uncover, that strongly supports the validity of questions as to Obama’s birth and whether or not he qualifies to hold the status of “natural born citizen”.

        If thuis country is to be a nation of laws, it should be a nation of laws. And that means, do the research.

        • SMILEE

          They have and they have proved you wrong, to bad you refuse to believe that truth and also your facts are not correct either

          • bob wire

            Kicking dead horses is fun?

          • Robert D

            It it is you who are wrong.

            B.O. may have been born here, which i will not contest, but both parent have to be citizens of the United States of America for hiom to be considered a natural born citizen. It has already been shown that his father was from and a citizen of a foriegn country. Case closed

          • JC

            Not to mention Robert, that his mother was too young to confer citizenship under US law.

          • http://naver samurai

            Why can’t anyone find any records on him then? He must have spent a lot of money to hide his records, moron! People like you are a disgrace to this country! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Bus

          Of equal interest would be to get his college records and see if he used foreign student status to get into Yale. But I gotta love AZ for their moxi and since the press isn’t doing its job in vetting the guy then the govenment needs to step up.

      • JIBBS

        Well, once again, I’ll say it! a COLB won’t get you a state I.D. Doc, you should stroll down to the local DMV with your COLB and see if you can get a state I.D. or a driver’s lic. They will tell you that you need the long form. Beside’s, what is he hiding?

        • SMILEE

          BULL!! They will tell you that you need a certified copy from the state and Obama’s is!!!!!!!!!!!

          • JIBBS

            I think you need to do some research.

          • JIBBS

            smilee,
            Until several months ago, Joe Anyone could order a BC from HI. just by pacing an order, here is what Missouri require’s. Illinois require’s the same items, and I also had to provide the same documents to the FAA to obtain my Private Pilots lic. They do not accept hospital BC! Wake up, if you think the government never’s lie’s, you are truly blind.

            Missouri Department of Revenue Jay Nixon, Governor
            Alana M. Barragán-Scott, DirectorSearchSearch Missouri Department of Revenue April 15 Tax Deadline ExtendedHome » Driver License Documents for Driver/ Nondriver License & Instruction Permit
            •Documents Required to Apply for or Renew a Missouri Driver License, Nondriver License, or Instruction Permit
            •Exemption for Applicants Age 65 or Older
            •Exemption for Applicants With A 15-year Missouri Driving History
            •If You Have A Name Change
            •Special Considerations for Applicants Born Prior to 1930
            •How to Obtain Required Documents

            ——————————————————————————–

            Documents Required to Obtain A Missouri Driver or Nondriver License or Instruction Permit
            •Documents Required to Apply for or Renew a Missouri Driver License, Nondriver License, or Instruction Permit
            Applicants must present one or more documents in each of the following categories. Additional documents may be required.

            NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, PLACE OF BIRTH (U.S. Citizen)

            •U.S. Birth Certificate – certified with an embossed, stamped or raised seal issued by a state or local government. (Hospital-issued birth certificates are not acceptable.)
            •U.S. Passport (valid or expired)
            •Certificate of Citizenship, Naturalization, or Birth Abroad
            •U.S. Military Identification Card or Discharge Papers – Military document must be accompanied by a copy of U.S. Birth Certificate issued by a state or local government.
            If you were born in Missouri and need to obtain a certified copy of your birth certificate, you may contact the Missouri Department of Health & Senior Services for assistance.

            U.S. Citizens who have previously verified place of birth after July 1, 2005, and the department’s records indicate such verification, are exempt from this requirement.

            NAME, DATE OF BIRTH, PLACE OF BIRTH (Non-U.S. Citizen)

            •Non-U.S. citizens should examine the complete listing of acceptable documents for proof of name, date of birth, and place of birth.
            SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER (ALL Applicants)

            •Provide your Social Security Number (verbally, or by presenting your Social Security card); or
            •If a Social Security Number has not been assigned, the applicant must present a letter from the Social Security Administration (SSA) regarding the status of the applicant’s Social Security Number.
            MISSOURI RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS(ALL Applicants)

            •Utility bill
            •Pay Check
            •Government Check
            •Mortgage Document
            •Voter Registration Card
            •Property Tax Receipt
            •Housing Rental Contract
            •Bank Statement
            NOTE: A Post Office Box will not be allowed as a residential address.

            Self certification is allowed if documents are not available.

            Residential address is the location at which a person has been physically present and regards as home. A residential address is a person’s true, fixed, principal, and permanent home, to which a person intends to return and remain, even though currently residing elsewhere.

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            Exemption for Applicants Age 65 or Older
            Applicants age 65 or older renewing a non-commercial driver or nondriver license or instruction permit are exempt from presenting documents for place of birth. If your Missouri driver or nondriver license or instruction permit is expired more than 6 months (184 days), you do not qualify for this exemption. The exemption also does not pertain to those obtaining a new permit/driver license or nondriver license.

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            Exemption for Applicants With A 15-year Missouri Driving History
            If you are a Missourian who has held a driver license or nondriver license for 15 years or more, you are eligible to obtain a special one-year non-commercial driver or nondriver license. A one-year license may not be renewed, but does provide a full year for you to obtain the documents required to verify name, date of birth, and place of birth.

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            If You Have A Name Change
            To verify a name change, present one of the documents below showing your current name:

            •Certified Marriage Certificate
            •Certified Divorce Decree
            •Certified Court Order
            •Certified Adoption Papers or Amended Birth Certificate
            •U.S. Passport (valid or expired)
            •Social Security Card/Medicare Card
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            Special Considerations for Applicants Born 1930 or Before
            NOTE: Applicants age 65 or older renewing a non-commercial driver or nondriver license or instruction permit are exempt from presenting documents for place of birth. If your Missouri driver or nondriver license or instruction permit is expired more than 6 months (184 days), you do not qualify for this exemption. The exemption also does not pertain to those obtaining a new permit/driver license or nondriver license.

            U.S. citizens born 1930 or before who wish to obtain a new Missouri non-commercial driver or nondriver license or instruction permit, and are unable to obtain a government-issued U.S. Birth Certificate, may provide the following:

            •A certified “No Record Statement” from your state of birth plus two supporting documents (listed below). In Missouri, a certified “No Record Statement” may be obtained from Vital Statistics, the same agency that provides certified birth certificates. This verifies that there is no birth record on file.
            •Supporting documents include, but are not limited to, military records, child’s birth certificate (hospital records are not acceptable), baptismal record, insurance policy, Social Security Administration numident, school records, employment records, and Census Bureau records, etc. The supporting documents should list the applicant’s name, place of birth, date of birth or age at the time the document was issued. Each document does not need to have all of the preceding information but the department needs sufficient information to establish place and date of birth. For example, Military Discharge Papers stating that Mr. John Brown was discharged on March 25, 1945, would not be sufficient since the document does not include Mr. Brown’s place of birth.
            •Fax the documents to (573) 526-4548 or mail copies to the Document Review Panel, Department of Revenue, P.O. Box 200, Jefferson City, MO 65101-0200.
            •A response will be provided within 2 weeks of our receipt of the documents. You may call (573) 751-2730 with any questions.
            •All other requirements for verification of social security number and Missouri residential address still apply.

          • smilee

            #
            JIBBS says:
            April 18, 2011 at 10:08 am

            I think you need to do some research.
            #
            JIBBS says:
            April 18, 2011 at 10:45 am

            The federal government requires a certified copy of your birth records that has the state seal embedded in it and that is what all states issue now to meet this requirement. My original at the time of my birth did not have the seal and they would not accept that so I had to order a new one to get a passport and to get my SS benefits which did have the seal and what the new ones do is certify that your birth is recorded and the date and county you where born in. Factcheck.org was given permission to examine and photograph Obama’s and it clearly shows the embedded seal of Hawail and is identical to the one he posted on his website, further the state has issued a letter stating that his birth is recorded and verifying he was born in Hawaii. This proof is acceptable to all legal authorities. It is you who needs to do some research and limit it to what is relevant not all the garbage your throwing at us.

          • http://naver samurai

            Indiana also requires a long form birth certificate for a driver’s license. The army also requires a long form birth certificate to enlist, so what’s your point moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammie

            I was talking about the federal government requirements and the army recognizes only the one with the seal embedded in it as does all federal requirements for one. Who cares what Indiana reguires for a drivers license

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer smilee, you moron! Jibbs talked about a state I.D. and state DMV. Ergo, talking about what Indiana requires is on subject. I guess you still want to be the moron don’t you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Al Sieber

        Doc, I live in Ariz. and I’m glad they passed it. why did Obama seal all his records the first day in office? what’s he hiding?

        • SMILEE

          HE DIDN’T SEAL THEM, THAT IS PURE RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA AND YOUR SILLY ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT!!

          • JIBBS

            Looks like you have several day’s of research ahead of you.

          • Matt Newell

            Try to get his school records, his law records, his adoption records, etc. and you will find out they will not release them. If thats not sealed, I don’t know what is.

          • JC

            SMILEE says:
            April 18, 2011 at 9:29 am
            HE DIDN’T SEAL THEM, THAT IS PURE RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA AND YOUR SILLY ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT!!
            ______________________________________________________________

            He has spent millions of dollars blocking anyone from legally looking into his very checkered past. The guy is an imposter who should be catapulted back to Kenya.

          • Jay

            SMILEE, your pathetic!

          • http://naver samurai

            You’re a moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Palin12

            Folks, don’t pay any attention to Smelly! By his own admission, he is a former union steward or union business rep. He’s just a dumb union troll who comes here and writes such brilliant posts “NO, YOUR WRONG”, “THATS COMPLETELY FALSE”, ETC ETC. Never has any documentation. Does alot of brown nosing. Kant spel werth a darn ether.

          • smilee

            There is a difference in him signing an executive order sealing them, which he did not do, and him not giving his personal permission which is required, which he has not, the fact you forget about is you have no legal right to that information and it is not relevant to his constitutional right to be president. It really is nobodies business but his but to listen to you guys he is doing something wrong which he is not. What’s funny is how it frustrates those of you who hate him.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer moron! If you get a court document signed by a judge, then whether he gives his permission or not is irrelevent. A judges order overrides his personal wishes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            sammie

            true, but Obama did not do that either

      • wandamurline

        Please get informed…a Certification of Birth is not a validated birth certificate. The certification is used when a child is born and not always born in Hawaii. The grandparents could have asked for the Certification of Birth once they knew of his birth, and once they obtained it…it was then supposed to be used with hospital information to file a validated Birth Certificate. Obama either has one or doesn’t, and the fact that he has spend 2 million dollars for secrecy of the birth certificate, school records and his passports from the 80′s should send a red flag to anyone with any brain. All he has to do is release the information and put it to rest, so why doesn’t he just release it? The news media investigated John McCain’s eligibilty to run because he was born to military parents in another country….but not one swinging _____ did not investigate Obama’s eligibility. This is not rocket science…either he is eligible or not and the truth will surface as there is a military officer in jail for not following orders because he believes Obama is not eligible, and his defense is going to dig into this…believe me. I just believe that the American people have the right to know the truth.

      • Dan az

        Doc
        I guess we will finally see,Unlike you I believe in facts!For him to get his name on the ballot he needs to show his BC by June as for printing time.So I hear that there is some 17 other states that have been waiting for some one else to make the first move.Well I guess we are going to call his bluff and raise.Are you going to fold I know Barry will!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          Just wanted to tell you the results of my signing that petition to show the BC the other day. They also sent an email to your reps as well. Well I got an answer from my senator that said that there was a birth certificate available for viewing on the internet. when I asked him where I could find this copy of his LONG FORM birth certificate I didn’t recieve an answer to that. I know, of course, that he was refering to the certificate of live birth and let’s face it, I know he was born ALIVE, he’s still here bothering people!! Why are these politicians so afraid of trying to expose him??
          .
          People, email your reps and ask them to show Nobummers LONG FORM on the internet and see what happens. specify long form and tell them you don’t want to see the certificate of live birth!! Tell them if they won’t push for it you will vote them OUT of office and activly campaign against them for their opponent!!

          • Dan az

            Hey Joe
            How is it you always get a reply mine dont even read mine!But I never stop being a thorn in their sides,I hunt around for all of those sites just so they wee me pop up like an unwanted stepchild.lol Good job bud!

          • JUKEBOX

            I am not sure he was born alive or if he is actually an android from outer space.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Well you know, they say FLIES are hatched from eggs, and they eat $hit N bother people. Sound familiar??

          • http://naver samurai

            Sounds like some of the libs on this site also. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Dan az says:
          April 18, 2011 at 11:02 am

          Doc
          I guess we will finally see,Unlike you I believe in facts!For him to get his name on the ballot he needs to show his BC by June as for printing time.So I hear that there is some 17 other states that have been waiting for some one else to make the first move.Well I guess we are going to call his bluff and raise.Are you going to fold I know Barry will!

          —————–

          Unless the courts block it. FACTS, if you cannot recognize facts how can you believe in facts?????????????

      • Dale on the left coast

        Why not post the documents Doc . . . maybe you have the ones the Gov of Hawaii COULD NOT FIND!!!

      • BDouglas

        Obviously Doc Sarvis does NOT belong in the united States. There are plenty of other countries you can go to live. Here in the united States, we have the 1776 Constitution. You should read it sometime. Perhaps on the plane to your NEW home. Not a Natural born citizen, not a president. This is not a hard concept, at least for some. We are simply not going to be able to fix stupid. It’s like training a pig, it annoys the pig and frustrates the trainer. Let’s hope that Doc isn’t slang for Dr.. (Whew, that thought makes the hair on the back of neck stand straight out!)

      • JC

        Doc Sarvis says:
        April 18, 2011 at 7:16 am
        All documentation and HI state officials on both sides of the political fence verify that President Obama was born in that state. Birthers have no valid arguments on this issue and probably many others.
        __________________________________________________________

        Really? Where and when did this happen?
        You must mean all “one” documents….and that “one” would be forged.

      • Oldpoop

        Please show Obama’s “Certified Record of Birth” and his “Certified Birth Record” and the problem goes away. What is the problem?

        Why has Obama spent so muc on lawyer fees to hide this data?

        • smilee

          The money he has spent is money was to defend himself in court protecting his constitutional rights from those who would take them away form him but not to hide his records. That is pure rhetoric and propaganda. His birth certificate issue really is a settled issue to all whom it legally matters.

          • http://naver samurai

            If its no problem with the POTUS, then just show the thing and have it be done with. Probably he’s affraid that people will see something he doesn’t want them to. Like being born in a different country, for example. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            In your opinion, but opinions from simple minds are mostly irrelevant!!!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Then yours are irrelevent also. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            SAMMIE

            that’s a typical response for a simple minded person to make

          • http://naver samurai

            Looking in the mirror again, are we? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JUKEBOX

        Anyone can print up a document like the one Obama shows to claim that he was born in the U.S., especially if you have enough money. My birth certificate from 1939 has the name of the hospital, attending doctor,day of the year, time of day, city, county, mother & father’s names and occupations, along with the signatures of local health officials, My weight & length. There are only 2 or 3 of these things on Obama’s “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH”.
        I invite you to compare “YOUR” birth certificate to Obama’s and then tell me if you notice any differences. Also, where are passports that his mother used to bring him back into the U.S. from Indonesia?

        • smilee

          My original issued by the state at the time of by birth has the same information on you describe. Guess what it is no longer accepted for legal purposes and the new ones which must have the state seal embedded in it does not have all this information but does certify that it is recorded that you where born in that state as Obama’s does. Try getting a passport with your the birth certificate, they would not give it to me so I had to order the new one with the state seal embedded to get one and most of the info on yours is not included in current ones.

      • http://naver samurai

        So, is this why the Governor of Hawaii can’t find it, no matter where and how hard he looked? This is a good law, moron. Just think, if Obama bin Laden can’t get on the docket in AZ, then he probably not be able to in other states. I know for a fact Indiana won’t put him on the docket if he can’t prove he was born here. Way to go Arizona! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Sammie boy

          He found it but it is against Hawaii law to publish it but they did right a letter saying his birth is recorded showing he was born in Hawaii. Your BS does not cut it.

          • http://naver samurai

            Your BS doesn’t either moron! Care to cite a source so we can view this or not view this obvious lie that you’ve just posted? Seeing is believing! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            I would but that would not change your mind so why bother. I never appease an idiot

          • http://naver samurai

            You never appease yourself? This must explain your moronic behavior on this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            WRONG AS USUAL, I DO APPEASE MY SELF IT IS YOU I WILL NOT APPEASE AS THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETE WASTE OF MY TIME

          • http://naver samurai

            Neither does yours. Another typical response by someone of a profoundly small mind. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        doc,
        show me a site where the Governor of Hawaii says that he found his long form BC!!! I won’t hold my breath as I know you can’t!!

        • JUKEBOX

          I thought the Governor remembered when Obama was born, NOT!

        • smilee

          He said it was recorded and documented. Your demands for the impossible does not make the states claims fraudulent. Trouble is you are totally opposed to the truth on this issue because you want so bad to believe he was not born in Hawaii but that is not something you can ever prove as the facts just do not support your silly thinking

          • http://naver samurai

            Nor do they support your moronic thinking. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • SMILEE

      This is another law that will not pass constitutional muster, I understand their immigration law was struck down recently as well. HI has certified he is a citizen born in this country and by the Constitution states must recognize the laws of other states. That is how marriages in one state has to be recognized in another that is how the laws in those states that would not recognize marriages between whites and colored people was struck down by the courts and I believe the same would apply here and also can a state dictate to the federal government how federal elections may be run and it is up to them to decide that not the states and challenge it if they believe it unconstitutional. This is just another exercise to try to validate the birther BS about Obama. PURE NONSENSE!!!!

      • Matt Newell

        It seems to me that there is nothing wrong with insuring a person meets the standards as set forth in the Constitution. I actually believe everyone running for or voting in an election should have to show some form of identification that is traceable back to a birth certificate or naturalization papers.

        • SMILEE

          NOTHING WRONG WITH IT IF IT IS DONE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY MOST LIKELY WOULD IF THEY FELT IT NECESSARY OR IF THE US CONGRESS MADE IT A LAW!!

          • Matt Newell

            Obviously YOU love big government. Personally I think it is up to the states to decide what a candidate should have to show to be on the ballot as long as all candidates have to do the same thing (cannot be selective like our king is).

          • Michael J.

            Smilee,
            Just how many struck down laws does a revolution make?
            How big a cuisinart does it take to make partisan pudding?

          • JC

            Smilee, without a doubt you are an idiot who refuses to understand even the most basic of truths. Your hero is bogus, period.

          • http://naver samurai

            Then why didn’t Congress do their job and have his records on hand? They did this with Bush, so why is Obama bin Laden different? This law counld also bw backed up with the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Matt Newell says:
            April 18, 2011 at 11:26 am

            It has to do with the Constitution so just what the hec does it have to do with the size of government. You do not seem to care much for that document.

          • http://naver samurai

            Matt is right, you don’t care about it. No lib really cares about it, unless they can use it to push any agendas they may be wanting at the time. Libs are made up of people, to be political, that are called secular humanists and they can care less about our founding principles, what we were founded on, or real liberty and freedom as a whole. Kinda like the way you, as well as other lib morons on this site, tend to sound like. Sorry, but your BS still isn’t cutting it here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammie

            your simple mind is incapable of understanding any liberal, just totally beyond yur ability

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer moron. Understanding a liberal is easy, because you can always see the leftward direction they are comming from. You are nothing more than the village idiot on this site. Stand up on your hind legs, show some initiative, and post a source. I guess that simple minded poeple believe in lying, so the need to post sources proves futile. You lie too much for your own good. This POTUS is going down come next year. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Don’t you have a class to go to?

        • smilee

          Again you demonstrate your simple thinking, liberalism is far to complicated for you so give up because so far you have been a total failure in you perception of them. It is just to deep for you. FACE IT!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Secular humanism, atheism, bigger government, higher taxes, unconstitutional handouts, no real sense of freedom and liberty just the twisted, warped, and perverted version of it. I guess this about sums up the ways of liberalism today. It’s a far cry from what it was in the days of our Christian founding fathers. They believed in republics and democracy, that was liberal in their day. Get your facts straight before you post, moron! You keep saying that it is too difficult for comeone to understand? We all know that it is you who are bereft of the knowledge needed to debate this subject. Your mother is calling. It’s time to go back down into her basement. Good boy! Woof, woof! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JIBBS

        Why did he change his name?, why doe’s he have a SS# from Conn., Whay did he give up his lic. to practice law in Il.? Why not just produce his BC and put an end to all of this ?

        • smilee

          Pure stupid accusations that have no basis in fact and is based on pure propaganda having not a shed of truth to it

          • http://naver samurai

            You’re lying again moron. Prove these acusations are false and a credible site to go with it. Oooops! I keep forgetting that a lib doesn’t let something as trivial as the truth stand in the way of a moronic rant. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            your simple mind does not have the ability to recognize any truths either. If its false you will believe it

          • http://naver samurai

            Still just ranting and no sources. I think you don’t post souces because you know you’re lying and would get caught in them. Your mind is no where near capable to understand the ways our country was founded and how it should be. Just another lib that wastes the time of the people here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            If you need sources why cannot you find them for yourself or are you not you capable of that either

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry smilee, I will not do your homework for you. You are the one posting these attacks on site with nothing to back them up with, so you do the homework. I’ll be waiting for your sources. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          IT IS YOU THAT WANTS TO KNOW DUMMY, SO ITS NOT MY HOMEWORK, IF I WANT TO KNOW I FIND OUT FOR MYSELF, TRY IT SOME TIME YOU MAY LEARN SOMETHING NEW

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, but you are the moron attacking people here with no facts to back them up. It is your homework and not mine. I’m the teacher and your the student. You do the homework and I grade it, OK moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • wandamurline

        If you look back, Hawaii was the only state that did not certify him…Pelosi certified him herself. This is constitutional as the Constitution states that one must be a natural born citizen to occupy the White House. His friend the new governor of Hawaii, Abercrombie, wanted to help and was going to release it…then I read where he said he could not find the certificate, but found his name in a log…probably when they got the certification…the liberal news medias quickly covered that one. Just release the darn birth certificate, school records and passports….settle it. If not, I must say that Arizona has the right idea…if we cannot trust the people in Washington to verify their candidates, then the states will have to do it for them. Wish Texas would join.

        • smilee

          It is the senate that certifies him as President, Pelosi is not a senator!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

      • Dan az

        Smilee
        How old are you?12, 13? Seriously dude read the constitution the sp1070 bill is word for word.It now goes to the supreme court which I agree is a waste of time any two yr old could tell you that the bill is constitutional.Have you ever thought why they tried to stop it?Let me clue you in,the same reason they broke the law by not passing the budget on time,so they could spend and spend before some one would stop them.Delays in closing the borders for immigration reform can you say break the states backs so they comply?We spend 2 billion dollars a year in state revenue to comply,that is just not going to happen anymore.With this undocumented worker in the white house running things into the ground you seem to enjoy the fact that this country is not only broke but torn in half.Do a little research on his SS# he has 17 of them and missy has two.The thing you should be more afraid of is your guv tit is going to dry up very shortly and you and anus will be sitting there wondering what the hell happened.Dude wake the fk up before its to late if that is even possible.

        • smilee

          Your blabbing on about nothing I have talked about and all you have accomplished is to show us your lack of inteligence

          • http://naver samurai

            And these snive remarks of yours shows how little intelligence you have smilee, you moron. I’ll bet the patriots on this site care more for this country and the direction its heading then you do. Care to answer the earlier questions I asked about your Vietnam service? I guess you just passed by it because you know you would be caught in another lie. I’ll also bet that the average patriot on this site is more informed on these matters and have more education than you do. You sound like someone I used to work with before and everyone thought he was an arse. I have his address if you are interested in writing him. He’s also a lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist and I think you two morons would make a good couple. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            AS USUAL YOU ARE DEAD WRONG AS I SAID BEFORE THE TRUTH IS JUST NOT SOMETHING YOU ARE CAPABLE OF RECOGNIZING. YOU CERTAINLY DO NOT DESCRIBE ME ACCURATELY, YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME IS ONLY TO PUT ME IN A BOX YOU CAN RECOGNIZE BUT THAT NOT ME JUST YOUR MORONISTIC VIEW OF ME.

          • http://naver samurai

            OK then, I hereby challenge you to post some facts and sources to back them up. If you’re a man, you’ll take up the gauntlet and answer my challenge. If not, then my description of you hits you “center mass”. Do you know what center mass means? You went to Vietnam, so you should know. Though you still haven’t answered my questions about your time in Vietnam. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. I challenged another lib on this site, Robert Smith, about the same thing and he hasn’t answered me yet. His service is suspect to being a falsehood by the patriots on this site. Why so angry, smilee? Is it because I’ve figured you out or because I can play this dumb game of yours as well as you can?

          • smilee

            sammie

            again you are blabbering. You never challenged me and I was never in viet nam but coming from you I am not to surprised as your not very smart and the truth means nothing to you. I was way past military age during the viet nam war and not even in the militery

          • http://naver samurai

            Then why did you lie when you posted that you were a Vietnam vet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT EITHER HERE OF ANYWHERE ELSE AND AGAIN YOUR DEMONSTRATE YOUR OF CONCERN FOR THE TRUTH, YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE

          • http://naver samurai

            If I made a mistake, so be it. But that doesn’t make someone a liar. You are the liar here. Though you talk a good game, you still can’t seen to win it, now can you moron? If this POTUS is re-elected, I predict this will happen:

            “The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.” Thomas Jefferson.

            Take the hint. I’ve been keeping my powder dry, how about you moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • wise owl

        While other states recognize other’s birth certs – this is one thing.
        But to believe without verification – That is the long form – could be quite chilling.
        We don’t want to take a chance on believing possible perjury.

      • JUKEBOX

        I wonder if you are aware that a non-citizen can obtain a “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH” from Hawaii.

        • smilee

          Do you really believe that crap!! I
          A birth certificate certifies where you where born there and Hawaii only keeps records of those born in their state.

          • http://naver samurai

            Rhetoric and no source. Rhetoric and no source. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            LIKE I SAID BEFORE YOU ONLY BELIEVE WHAT FITS YOUR BIAS. VITAL STATISTICS SINCE THEY WHERE STARTED RECORD WHAT GOES ON IN THAT STATE AND NOTHING THAT GOES ON ANYWHERE ELSE. MOST PEOPLE AT LEAST PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE.

      • http://naver samurai

        You drink too much lib kool aid on a daily basis. Prove he was born here. He couldn’t have been born here. It was proven that he was a citizen of Indonesia and traveled to Pakistan in the 1980′s using another country’s passport. How is he an American citizen by birth? Are you an ostrich? Have you had your head buried somewhere for the last 2 years? No facts or sources, just lib rhetoric, lies, and inuendo. Whe will you morons wake up and smell the coffee. You will be grately disappointed after he gets kicked out of office next year. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          I suppose you believe the sky is pink too!!

          • http://naver samurai

            No, sorry I believe the sky is blue and is gray when the weather is bad. I do believe that you think of this false utopia of the left. I’m also pretty sure that you are so close to Obama bin Laden that you are always seen wiping brown stuff off of your nose. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Well, I’ll be damed, you do know the sky is blue, sometimes you do surprise me!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I also know that the moon isn’t made of green cheese either, but what does this have to do with the topic at hand? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Sammie

            The topic was what color the sky is and not what the moon is made of but then maybe that is beyond your abilities to understand too

          • http://naver samurai

            Ah yes, another posting to agrandize yourself. Typical comming from you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            WHAT DOES “agrandize” MEAN????????????????

          • http://naver samurai

            To agrandize yourself means to make yourself look or sound bigger to other people and you’ve been doing a good job at that, moron. The only pink thing I know of is the panties that are knotted up by you loosing this battle. Time to change them, isn’t it? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Kinetic1

      Well Michael, I guess that you don’t know Ms.Brewer that well. I admit that I am surprised that she had the good sense to veto this bill, but my guess is that the Republicans won’t let her stop then from making themselves the butt of many jokes to come. Yep, leave it to Arizona Republicans to pass a law that would require a candidate to present a long form birth certificate when Arizona itself no longer uses them! Oooops! Not a problem though. If all you have is a certificate of live birth (as so many of us do) then a RECORD OF CIRCUMCISION will do? Only a bunch of birthers could come up with this twisted law.

      • Michael J.

        Kinetic1,
        Fifth quarter coaching today? So she sold out, or maybe she received a copy of the Zabruder film anonymously. Either way the progressives win and the people lose.

        Or as your komrades are fond of saying,”This is effin golden”.

      • Michael J.

        Kenetic1,
        You should not use this opportunity to poke fun at circumcision, it’s a traumatic experience for an infant. My parents had the procedure performed on me when I was one week old and I was so traumatized that I could not walk for a year.

        • Dan az

          MJ
          Me to, except I bitch slap the dude with the knife and I always wondered
          if he got even with me,We’ll never know!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dan az,
            Well, the ladies will know, believe me!!! LOL!!!

          • Dan az

            Hey Joe
            I contacted Jan Brewer though Numbers USA and left what I felt was an honest letter for her,we’ll see if she replies back or if the door gets kick in.I also sent letters to the reps to not let this fail they have the votes to do whats right and if they dont they can stand in line at the unemployment office and try to get a job at there nearest greasy spoon.I hope this time some one will reply one way or another!

      • Dan az

        kinetic
        Why dont you use something for a research that is true rather than spew the words of huffing post?

        Arizona is a “closed record” state. That means that vital records are not public record. Arizona law restricts the public’s access to vital records as follows to protect the confidentiality rights of our citizens. Arizona Administrative Code R9-19-403 specifies that only the following may receive a certified copy of a birth certificate: I’ll let you finish it with your research its simple use the box in the upper right hand corner!

        • smilee

          Hawaii has a similar law

  • Protonius

    Sorry, “Doc Sarvis”, but your assertions above are precisely the opposite of what the evidence shows.

  • Raggs

    I had a thought that this was supposed to be in the constitution… Oh shucks I forgot… obama don’t care what that ( consititution ) is nor does the democommunist party.

  • Norm

    10:04 AM on 05/13/2010

    HONOLULU (AP) — It’s now law in Hawaii that the state government can ignore repetitive requests for President Barack Obama’s birth certificate.
    Republican Gov. Linda Lingle signed into law Wednesday a bill allowing state government agencies not to respond to follow-up requests for information if they determine that the subsequent request is duplicative or substantially similar to a previous request.
    The law is aimed at so-called “birthers,” who claim Obama is ineligible to be president. They contend the Democratic president was born outside the United States, and therefore doesn’t meet a constitutional requirement for being president.
    Lingle didn’t elaborate on her reasons for signing the bill, but state Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino previously issued statements saying that she’s seen vital records that prove Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.
    Both Fukino and the state registrar of vital statistics have verified that the Health Department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
    Health Department officials supported the law because the state still gets between 10 and 20 e-mails seeking verification of Obama’s birth each week, most of them from outside Hawaii.
    A few of those requesters file repeated inquiries seeking the same information, even after they’re told state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

    • wandamurline

      If the American people do not have a tangible interest in seeing the validated birth certificate, then exactly who does?

    • JC

      Hundreds of millions of us have a tangible interest…in seeing this bum thrown in to the street…and seeing everything he signed, repealed.

    • JUKEBOX

      I believe that I and every American citizen have a tangible interest in knowing the legitimacy of Obama’s birth.

    • http://naver samurai

      WE THE PEOPLE are very interested and have the right to know the truth. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • smilee

        You would not recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit you in your a$$

        • http://naver samurai

          People like you are only interested in hiding the truth, Chris! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Seeing as you cannot recognize the truth just how the he// would you know!!!!!!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Are you saying that WE THE PEOPLE don’t have a right to know if he’s elidgeable to be POTUS or not? You must be off in some delusional fantasy world. Where Obama is the “messiah” and can do nothing wrong. If you are, then you are a lost cause and unable to be brought back into reality. Those are also the facts, moron! Since you seem to not have graduated college, I suggest that you go back to school and relearn our history from a professor who isn’t left leaning. It may be a mind boggling experience for you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            These are your questions not mine so you answer them. Your insults say more about your character than about me so I will ignore them

          • http://naver samurai

            So you don’t think the people have the right to know? What a moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            THE TRUTH IS THEY DO KNOW, WE CANNOT PREVENT ALL YOU PEOPLE IN DENIAL IN DENYING IT

          • http://naver samurai

            I thought denial was the river in Egypt. Soory moron, but unless you present your lang form birth certificate, like I had to show when I enlisted in the army, a colb doesn’t hold water. If it is a true document, then why did he have the file number in the upper right hand corner omitted? It is also missing information that would be present on the long form birth certificate. What’s he hiding? Your arguement and position doesn’t hold water and has been easily overrun. You lose again. I though that taking on a lib like you would be proven more difficult, but I guess I was wrong in that assumption. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Dan az

      Norm
      If I was prez and told you that you have to give your life up for the country would you do it knowing that I was a muslim that wasnt born in this country?Would you follow my orders?May alluh be with you!

      • http://naver samurai

        Norm blindly follows his “messiah” wherever he goes and says. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Norm

    I’m not sure what the issues are around a state trying to trump the United States Constitution by further defining the requirements to run for office, but it could possibly be the most blatant, ridiculous, racist, xenophobic act of any state legislature in recent history.
    Every time I remember that we could have elected John McCain President, I shudder. Keep it up, Arizona and you might actually overtake Texas as the most bizarre state in the Union.

    • JIBBS

      McCain was born on a Military Base, to two Natural American citizens. Military Base’s are considered American soil. I can’t believe how many people are that stupid, as to what the Constitusion require’s to be elected to any public office of/in the United States. All of this was covered in the Constitusion test in high school in order to graduate….hmm, maybe this is a telltale sighn, as to how many people drop out of school and never graduate.

      • TIME

        Jibbs,

        The alledged average IQ in the US is 110, I contend the real number is far below that 110 number. As in more in line with 90-95.
        The average IQ perhaps with a PHD may be around 110 but thats even stretching the fabric of logic beyond its bounds.

        IQ is based on free thinking as in out of the BOX THINKING.
        When one is bound by {strict parameters} the truth is the IQ level is also stunted by the noted lacking of flexibility, thus what I noted is the most Logical answer.

        Thats based on what I see and hear daily from the average persons. Most alledged Free Thinkers, are in a tight little BOX of some type.
        Thus when in the right BOX your like minded clique will all be able to be in agreement on simple minded formats.

        Its very much the same as what we saw unfold in Germany from the 1920-May 1945. Like minded people who follow in the fold of the Nazi’s did quite well. Yet the ones that were not within the noted Clique, well we all know how well that worked out for them now don’t we.

        Thus the mindless who follow Barry Soetoro based on either one of the following mental illness’s; White Guilt, Black Pride, or just being within the CLIQUE of the moment.
        Such as the vote block Barry garrnered from the White Colledge kids who were thinking that they were making HISTORY by voting for a dark skined POTUS.

        Thus one has to ask just how bloody funny is it that these people all fit the profile of whats noted by the Progressive’s as either “Worthless Eaters” or “Useful IDIOTS.”

        Wake Up people, Call Fax, and Email your states AG & Governor’s to adopt like laws, before the 2012 Election you don;t have long so get busy.

        • JIBBS

          Thank you, very well stated(two thumbs up)

    • wandamurline

      The state is not trumping the Constitution…they are upholding the requirements for president in the Constitution. People like you are the reason we are in this mess…get a copy of the Constiution and rea it…inform youself and then you won’t be so ignorant of its contents.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        wandamurline,
        go to http://www.patriotdepot.com and you can order a pocket sized copy! i ordered seven of them for my more illiterate buddies!!!

        • Dan az

          Joe
          could you send one to normy?

    • JUKEBOX

      Obama is a “RACIST” by the fact that he marked himself “BLACK” on his 2010 census form, even though he had the option of marking the truth, “MIXED RACE”. I believe that you are supposed to answer the census form truthfully under the penalty of perjury.

      • smilee

        How do you know this as the individual census information is not released to the public for 75 years, you some kind of mind reader

        • http://naver samurai

          His mother was caucasian, moron! Ergo we know he isn’t black, but a mulato. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            sammie

            Listen up silly, the question was what did he answer on his census form about it not what color she really is. Your stupidity is showing again sammie.

          • http://naver samurai

            Facts are facts, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            TRUE, TOO BAD THEY KEEP GOING OVER YOUR HEAD AND THUS LEAVING YOUR CLUELESS

          • http://naver samurai

            You are the one that is clueless and in need of being re-educated on our history and Constitution. Those facts are to much for a lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist to possibly understand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • GeorgeE

    Thank you Arizona for taking the lead on another vital constitutional issue which the federal government refuses to enforce or take seriously. It’s about time the states challenge federal government power and hold them accountable to the constitution and our laws.

    Frankly, I wish Obama would release a copy of his birth certificate so this whole issue could be put to bed. I think Trump is correct when he said Obama has not released his birth certificate because 1) he doesn’t have one, or 2) there’s something on it that he doesn’t want revealed. Either way, I’d be concerned. Nevertheless, I’m pretty sure the American people would forgive most things if Obama would just be honest with us. Dishonesty can not be forgiven.

    • SMILEE

      i UNDERSTAND THEIR PAST LEAD (IMMIGRATION LAW) RECENTLY WAS STRUCK DOWN BY THE COURTS AND I SUSPECT THIS ONE WILL BE TOO. DON’T THEY HAVE GOOD LAWYERS IN AZ TO ADVISE THEM AGAINST PASSING UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OR ARE THEY SO RICH THEY CAN AFFORD ALL THOSE LEGAL FEES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TAXPAYERS!!!!

      • GeorgeE

        That would be interesting since the states have the right to determine which candidates get on their ballots and which persons are qualified to vote for those candidates.

        Frankly, it perplexes me that when a state passes a law codifying a federal law, that the courts can determine the state law to be unlawful. The problem, I think, is that the courts are saying the states can’t enforce a federal law when the federal government determines it won’t enforce that law. The fact that the federal government won’t enforce our laws seems more unlawful to me, but that’s just my common sense working.

        • Dan az

          Well there you go using common sense is your problem you have to think upside down and backwards and have your head in lets not go there but you get the drift.Just ask smelly.

          • GeorgeE

            Ha, ha, ha.

        • smilee

          The states have no power over powers given the US Congress by the constitution go read the tenth amendment. Powers given the congress trumps the state to do anything about that and that is why the immigration bill was struck down

      • Palin12

        Smelley, turn off the CAPS LOCK if you expect anyone to read your union-led propaganda.

      • JC

        SMILEE says:
        April 18, 2011 at 9:47 am
        i UNDERSTAND THEIR PAST LEAD (IMMIGRATION LAW) RECENTLY WAS STRUCK DOWN BY THE COURTS AND I SUSPECT THIS ONE WILL BE TOO. DON’T THEY HAVE GOOD LAWYERS IN AZ TO ADVISE THEM AGAINST PASSING UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OR ARE THEY SO RICH THEY CAN AFFORD ALL THOSE LEGAL FEES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TAXPAYERS!!!!
        _____________________________________________________________

        Guess what dipstick! The law was struck down even though it exactly mirrors the Federal law that that poodle Obama refuses to enforce.
        And you’re idiot imposter is suing in “world” court. How unAmerican does he have to be before your tiny little mind gets the fact that he is an imposter?
        He is a Globalist hell bent on destroying the US and needs to be ejected from office so hard and fast he leaves his shoes behind.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JC,
          I’d say so fast he leaves something ELSE behind, but I don’t think he has any!!!

        • smilee

          I understand your hate for him but that does not make your lies the truth

          • http://naver samurai

            No matter how many times you spew lib lies, rhetoric, and inuendo, doesn’t make it the truth no matter how many times you said it, moron! Go back under the rock you crawled out from. Still not citing sources, just trying to cut and run. Typical lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist behavior. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            How would you know seeing as you cannot recognize the truth. I am not stupid enough to appease your stupid requests

          • http://naver samurai

            I do recognise the truth. You are the one blinded by this pretender in the White House and your own secular humanistic beliefs. Now there is what you would call “the village idiot.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            I’M SORRY, I WAS OF THE UNDERSTANDING YOU WERE THE VILLAGE IDIOT

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, but it seems that I have the higher IQ and college. Ergo, you are the moron on this site and the village idiot. Have we accomplished anything? Lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist (Chris)! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    George E. Who ever said there was Any Common sense ( Or Otherwise ) that is Being utilized in This Guvmt. In Wash. DC ? It appears All headed Down Hill since this bush-re=gime stepped in. And Don`t anyone say ” Obama is IT now” For We all know he is just One other head of the same snake.

    • GeorgeE

      I believe you’ve got that right. Common sense based on my set of values doesn’t seem to be the norm any longer, and that’s not very reassuring.

      Our financial problems started a long time ago, not just with the last two or three administrations. I submit that the core problem goes back to the very beginning of our republic when our forefathers determined we needed a stronger federal government, and began to find ways of taxing citizens of their money to exercise that power. (Never mind the distruction that the central bank has done in devaluing our currency.) The process has continued for over 200 years and now the government can’t find enough money to pay for all of the promises they’ve made to their citizens (to buy their votes). We’ve got one heck of a mess on our hands, and it’s very unlikely that we’ll work our way out of this one without severe repercussions. It seems pretty obvious to me that the government needs a complete overhaul to clean up the mess. I wonder what would happen if the government just declared that they were going to cut spending across the board by 40% to balance the budget, then cut further each succeeding year to account for additional deficits added through all of the “auto-pilot” programs enacted? I figure all hell would break out, but three things would probably happen that would be good. First, the country would be saved from financial disaster which is what we’re currently headed for. Second, I believe people’s minds and priorities would clear pretty quickly when it comes down to them losing their benefits that’s been promised or giving their money to the non-productive, feel-good programs that are currently in place, and being considered. Finally, this would force us to decide exactly what sorts of programs we think the government really ought to be involved in and to what extent. I believe all of these things could bring our country back to a place more akin to the original thinking of our forefathers when they created this country.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

        GeorgeE, I could not agree with you more ! You are positively Right On ! YES, This whole Ruination we are in..Did begin AT least two hundred years Back. Back when a FEW Rich Found a way to band together and Gouge the Average ‘ wage-earner’ even to the point of scalping us down to the bone. WE ( the middle class have been cut out of existence because of their greed. Who in hell do they think “Is going to carry their Water for them’ Now ? ) No jobs mean no taxes paid. Are we supposed to Dig our own grave and then just turn around and fall into it..And let nature ( Wind and rain ) blow the Dirt over us ?? Hell is already filled with people like these Conscienceless Monsters…SO Where ARE they going TO be put..When They Die ?? Good Questions, but no answers ? Your Ideas Would Work but for the Many who are Used to living off the Guvmt. ( Which really means..Living off Those who have Always Before now, Paid Their Dues For them ) who would Balk at being cut off. They are the very ones who Will march ON Wash DC and Burn the place down, along with Everyone in it ! So you can see what a real mess These Wealthy Ones have Created For themselves..in their Venture to Control the World and Own Everything In it !! They will End up With Nothing. Not even a Seat in Hell ( But caught somewhere between Damnation and Glimpses of Heaven . I call it Just Dessert ! Thanx for your input.. VGF

  • Dale on the left coast

    How many of you would spend a couple of million dollars to keep from showing your BC??? But, even if he was born in the WH . . . he is still “Illegal” under the US constitution . . . because unlike McLaim . . . who was born to two US Citizens . . . Obummer’s father was a British Subject at the time.
    Standard and Poors DOWNGRADED US DEBT today . . . step 1 on the path to Greece . . .

    • JUKEBOX

      Barry Soetoro is still listed as a citizen of Indonesia since he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

      • smilee

        Neither of you are telling the truth

        • http://naver samurai

          Niether are you moron! If you were, you would have posted some facts and sources way before now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            You just don’t get it do you sammie, the truth is totally beyond your abilities to comprehend

          • http://naver samurai

            Yeah, yeah, yeah, the same broken record. If you were a man, in which I doubt, you would answer my questions and quit trying to cover your so obvious retreat. Can you do that, moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            ASK AN INTELLIGENT QUESTION AND I MIGHT CONSIDER IT

          • http://naver samurai

            I have. I’ve asked about 6 questions on this site, but you’ve been to ignorant to answer them. You just go on these moronic attacks and factually bereft rants. Practice what you preach boy! Practice what you preach! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Dan az

    I am convinced the issue of state sovereignty as laid out in the Constitution will be the battle line on which our cause for liberty will be won or lost. We cannot give up ground on the issue of states’ rights and we cannot expect to succeed in protecting our liberty from federal encroachment without states willing to nullify legislation that is repugnant to the constitution. It is not the job or the responsibility of the court to do so. It is up to you and me and who we choose to represent us.
    http://libertarianparty.org/platform

    • smilee

      Another propaganda site and a sucker who buy their BS

      • http://naver samurai

        Read the 9th and 10th Amendments moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          Is that suppose to be a joke, or are you really that clueless???

          • http://naver samurai

            Not as clueless as some fool who don’t answer challenges. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            WOW, YOU SURE ARE CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            You really are a moron! Certain rights are given to the states under the Constitution. These are basically stated in the 10th Amendment and anything not covered by the fed is handled by the states, so what’s your point moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Ed

    If the governor signs that bill and it becomes law the federal government will descend on Arizona like Hitlers blitz.

    • Dan az

      ED
      Even if she dosent sign it,it still becomes law!10 other states are in the process of doing the same thing.Its called taking back the rights of its citizens.Go here and learn a few few things.
      http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

      • smilee

        Another propaganda site base on conservative misinterpretation of the tenth amendment, and Dan I believe you do buy into this BS

        • http://naver samurai

          Still telling insults and still no facts or sources. Just another lib moron to deal with. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Your like a lost little puppy you keep following me around and barking at me, SO FUNNY!!

          • http://naver samurai

            As I recall, you’re the one that came on this site and started following me. Tell me another story, grandma! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            YOUR MEMORY AIN’T TOO GOOD EITHER, REMEMBER YOU REMEMBERING ME BEING IN VIET NAM???? i WAS NEVER THERE EITHER

          • http://naver samurai

            Another lib lie! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • RPH1045

    Way to go ARIZONA NOW THOSE OTHER STATES NEEDS TO DO THE SAME, BUT YOU CAN EXPECT A LAWSUIT FROM OBAMA AND THE FEDERAL GOV.

    • JC

      But why? According to the Kenyan, it shouldn’t effect him anyway right? lol

  • http://com i41

    Go AZ, it is the State’s right to make any office canidate to ppresent a BC. Of course the crossbred has always beem driven by a driver.See the usually croitch hangers of Onumnutts are still attached, to keep beleiving this purple lipped liar. To spend that much money and time to seal your records, their is something rotten in this marxist muslim’s history.

  • chuckb

    an article by walter williams, it looks right to me.

    > Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can’t.

    I am going on record as saying that President Barak Obama will win a second term. The media won’t tell you this because a good election campaign means hundreds of millions (or in Obama’s case billions) of dollars to them in advertising. But the truth is, there simply are no conditions under which Barak Obama can be defeated in 2012.
    >
    > The quality of the Republican candidate doesn’t matter. Obama gets reelected. Nine percent unemployment? No problem. Obama will win. Gas prices moving toward five dollars a gallon? He still wins. The economy soars or goes into the gutter. Obama wins. War in the Middle East? He wins a second term. America’s role as the leading Superpower disappears? Hurrah for Barak Obama! The U.S. government rushes toward bankruptcy, the dollar continues to sink on world markets and the price of daily goods and services soars due to inflation fueled by Obama’s extraordinary deficit spending? Obama wins handily.
    >
    > You are crazy Williams. Don’t you understand how volatile politics can be when overall economic, government, and world conditions are declining? Sure I do. And that’s why I know Obama will win. The American people are notoriously ignorant of economics. And economics is the key to why Obama should be defeated. Even when Obama’s policies lead the nation to final ruin, the majority of the American people are going to believe the bait-and-switch tactics Obama and his supporters in the media will use to explain why it isn’t his fault. After all, things were much worse than understood when he took office.
    >
    > Obama’s reelection is really a very, very simple math problem. Consider the following:
    >
    > 1) Blacks will vote for Obama blindly. Period. Doesn’t matter what he does. It’s a race thing. He’s one of us,
    >
    > 2) College educated women will vote for Obama. Though they will be offended by this, they swoon at his oratory. It’s really not more complex than that,
    >
    >
    > 3) Liberals will vote for Obama. He is their great hope,
    >
    >
    > 4) Democrats will vote for Obama. He is the leader of their party and his coattails will carry them to victory nationwide,
    >
    >
    > 5) Hispanics will vote for Obama. He is the path to citizenship for those who are illegal and Hispanic leaders recognize the political clout they carry in the Democratic Party,
    >
    >
    > 6) Union members will vote overwhelmingly for Obama. He is their key to money and power in business, state and local politics,
    >
    >
    > 7) Big Business will support Obama. They already have. He has almost $1 Billion dollars in his reelection purse gained largely from his connections with Big Business and is gaining more everyday. Big Business loves Obama because he gives them access to taxpayer money so long as they support his social and political agenda,
    >
    >
    > 8) The media love him. They may attack the people who work for him, but they love him. After all, to not love him would be racist,
    >
    >
    > 9) Most other minorities and special interest groups will vote for him. Oddly, the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims will support him because they won’t vote Republican. American Indians will support him. Obviously homosexuals tend to vote Democratic. And lastly,
    >
    >
    > 10) Approximately half of independents will vote for Obama. And he doesn’t need anywhere near that number because he has all of the groups previously mentioned. The President will win an overwhelming victory in 2012.
    >
    > – Dr. Walter Williams

    • GeorgeE

      I love and respect Dr. Williams. He is a very smart man. However, I believe the election will be a referendum on Obama and his policies. It will not be about the Republican candidate, so long as the candidate doesn’t do something stupid during the campaign. It will also not be bought with a billion dollars of campaign advertising from Obama’s campaign war chest . There are many effective ways of communicating competing messages through the internet and other outlets. The election is largely going to be won or lost on how effective each side is in getting out their vote. Conventional thinking is that the liberals/socialists are not real pleased with Obama because they think he should have done more for them, so unless they can spike emotions on their side, the turnout may not be as large as they need.

      I’ve always voted Republican because I am a conservative. However, I’m so concerned about the debt our government has accrued that I’ve decided I’m going to vote for the person who convinces me he/she understands the magnitude of the problem and is most likely to get the budget in balance and start paying off this ungodly debt. This will most likely be a Republican or Libertarian because I’m convinced the Democrats/libs/socialists want larger, more powerful government, which is one of the major causes of our current fiscal crisis, in my opinion.

      • JUKEBOX

        You are right, you will never hear those words spoken by a Democrat, unless they preface the declaration with: “ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE ME OR YOUR LYING EYES AND EARS?”.

        • smilee

          Go have the wax removed from your ears!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Have your head make that popping sound, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            NICE PUPPY!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Still haven’t made that popping sound, eh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Jay

      Bullsh*t!

  • da norseman

    GOD BLESS ARIZONA!!! I moved down here last February after two dismal years living near Sacramento in that corrupt land called the California Socialist Republic. I’m proud to say that I can now call Maricopa County home! When I first heard about the Grand Canyon State taking the lead to crack down on illegal immigration with Governor Brewer signing that long sought after bill into law, I was very proud that the great people of Arizona have taken matters into their own hands by sticking with the immigration laws contained in the U.S. Constitution, which has been long ignored by these liberal career anarchists in DC – I guess they are called “elected politicians” – who prefer to violate these laws and go against the will of the People by supporting amnesty. At least six other states are following Arizona’s lead by introducing similar bills of their own.

    I became outraged when elected anarchists in other states including Mexifornia began to threaten Arizona with boycott and I began to question their stupidity when I realized that these states had cities that harbored and protected illegals from deportation and offer asylum at tax payer expense. These anarchists claim that cracking down on illegal immigrants is racial profiling…BULL****!!! They are being racists themselves, especially when I would hear them stereotype Mexicans as “poor brown people looking for a better life”. Contrary to that popular belief, which is so dumbfounded, Mexico, like the United States, is a multi-racial and diverse country. While Spanish is the dominant language, it is not official and remains as a de facto language due to the fact that there are minority languages spoken by a large number of native Americans residing in that country. Spanish, like English, is a European language in case somebody missed it.

    • James A

      We are glad you left. We dont need anymore demagogues and or teabaggers. Polarizing views do no one any good. “Elected Anarchist”…..Wow sounds like you should have moved to a compound in Idaho.

      • da norseman

        It’s better to get away from an anti-American Girlie-boy Socialist like you. Mexifornia’s going to Hell anyway with Moonbeam and his Marxist anarchists. Good luck when your state falls into the ocean where you can drown with your girlfriends Pelosi and Boxer. I’ll be looking for beachfront property in Yuma once that happens.

      • da norseman

        If you are referring to neo-Nazis, they are a bunch of homosexuals!

  • James A

    Will you misinformed birthers pull up the newspaper on microfiche at the time Obama was born his announcement is in there…..case closed.

    • GeorgeE

      That’s great. Now if he, or you, can just show us a copy of his original birth certificate, then everyone can go about their business. I’m certain the hospital where he was born has a copy on file…… That’s been standard practice for many years in this country.

      • Palin12

        I was born in the same hospital that Obummer claims to have been born in: Kapiolani Maternity in Honolulu. My birth certificate looks nothing like the document that he has shown us; namely, parent’s names, ages, and occupations, as well as attending physician’s name. I did not go to school in predominantly-Muslim Indonesia either.

        • GeorgeE

          I know. I believe Obama has released a document titled “Certificate of Live Birth,” not a birth certificate. I’m not exactly sure what this is, but I think it is a statement by someone that “certifies” he was born in Hawaii. It seems obvious to me that a document like that could be fraudulently filed whereas an original birth certificate is much less likely since it would have been produced and filed at time of birth, not years later…….

          Oh by the way, you are aware that the libs demanded to see a copy of John McCain’s birth certificate during the campaign, hoping they would find that he wasn’t born in the US. He produced one, so that was put to rest. But, we’re being radical and unreasonable to expect to see Obama’s……..

          • Palin12

            You’re absolutely right! Obama could have been born in Kenya, flew to Honolulu 3 days later, and then his mother apply for a Certificate of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii on his behalf. She could then also place a birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper.

          • GeorgeE

            Exactly. So long as Obama refuses to show us an authentic copy of his original birth certificate, that theory will continue to survive, and his supporters will continue to blindly claim we are radical because we don’t just roll-over. I’m certain if it were the Republican candidate or President withholding his birth certificate, they would redefine “radical” as they demanded to see his birth certificate. I’ve witnessed some of the demonstrations by the leftists. They can get pretty ugly.

        • smilee

          Order a new copy of your birth certificate and you will find it looks just like the one factcheck.org photographed of Obamas and nothing like the one you have from the past. I betting you could not get a passport with the one you got.

    • independant thinker

      All it takes to get a birth announcement in the newspaper is a phone call saying what the caller wants printed.

    • da norseman

      Do you have a proof that Barry was born in Hawaii, James A, or are you so influenced by what the liberal mainstream press is telling you? Show us his birth certificate if you happen to have it! Besides, Barry’s wife twice mentioned his home country as Kenya. Case Closed!!!

      • smilee

        You would not believe it if we rubbed your face in it because the truth means nothing to you

        • http://naver samurai

          Another stupid moronic rant. Still no facts or sources I see. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            BE GOOD PUPPY OR I’LL PUT THE LEASH ON YOU!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Gee, is that the best your moronic brain can come up with? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            FOR YOU BETTER THAN THAT IS NOT NECESSARY

          • http://naver samurai

            This comming from a lib that is hopelessly bereft of intelligence? Still not going to post any real facts or sources? Just give up and go back to your mother’s basement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • JIBBS

      Why not just have obama show his BC? that would settle everthing. By the way, I am not a birther, I am a concerned citizen that follow’s the Constitution. Maybe you obama lover’s should follow it also, due to the fact, it is the law of the land.

    • http://naver samurai

      Have him produce the original birth certificate and this will all be over, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • JUKEBOX

      Yeah, and Arnold Schwartzenager’s parents ran an announcement in that same paper when he was born. That’s irrefutable evidence, if you believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny.

      • smilee

        Newspapers do not necessarily state where he is born but the state does record everyone born in Hawaii and the information furnished them must come from a knowledgeable sources. The state of Hawaii says he was born there and that makes if official.

        • http://naver samurai

          Show me the original and then I’ll believe it, not one minute before. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            WASTE OF TIME!! ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING WITH YOU!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Then why can’t the governor find it? If it were there, don’t you think the governor would have found it? Typical lib rhetoric comming from a mindless twit. Fighting at your low level is easy. Can we turn it up with some actual facts and sources and quit with this moronic thing of you chasing me, but get all po’ed when the tables are turned game? Morons! I’m surrounded by lib morons! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            HE FOUND IT AND HE SAID SO BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY UNDER LAW TO PUBLISH IT. THAT IS WHY THEY ISSUED A LETTER STATING THAT HIS BIRTH WAS RECORDED AND THAT HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII. TRUTH JUST ALWAYS ESCAPES YOU DOESN’T IT

          • http://naver samurai

            Another lie smilee! He may not have the authority to release it, but you can’t release something that was never found and probably never was. Need to make that popping sound soon, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • wise owl

    But let’s say that B H Obama is legit for sake of argument ———- or not.
    Both political parties are buying votes with public monies.
    Both presidents are pursuing pointless wars with monies borrowed into the future.
    IF BOTH PARTIES ARE DOING THE SAME THING, THEN WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
    The fiction of two “Opposing” parties is distracting us from stopping our monies being ransacked by a marauding banking cartel, A.K.A. “The Federal Reserve cartel of banks”, a for profit corporation.
    Using public monies to buy votes and influence, the members of this cartel are at the least sucking the productivity out of countless business owners, employees, retirees.
    They pick your pockets while you battle one another.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      wise owl,
      What’s the difference?? The difference is that our government is supposed to be based on our constitution, not on some feel good opinion!!

      • JUKEBOX

        And Democrats sure believe in FEEL GOOD opinions!

      • smilee

        Interesting as that what you seem to base it on

        • http://naver samurai

          It is based on the Constitution and not the secular humanist ways of you libs. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Can YOU never say anything intelligent Puppy dog???????????

          • http://naver samurai

            Thank you for saying that our government isn’t based on the Constitution, moron. Shows how less intelligent you are. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            I DIDN’T SAY THAT DUMBIE, IF THE TRUTH WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU THEN YOU WOULD NOT MAKE UP STORIES LIKE THIS WOULD YOU

          • http://naver samurai

            First, its dummy and not dumbie! Second, that is what you were implying with your post and you know it. Your small lib mind can’t handle the truth. You libs tend to flee from it as the darkness flees from the light. Take the hint! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    The Fact is that we do not have a Presentable Candidate for President..From Neither the Republican Nor the Democratic Party . How can We begin slotting anyone`s worth ? Is there a Libertarian Ready to make his presence known ? How can Anyone determine from all this ‘big vacuum ‘ just how large B.Obama will Figure in 2012 ? We do have a couple or Three ‘Wantabes ‘ left over from our prior election. But, do we want to use Retreads that were previously passed over ? Where are the Good Candidates ,the’New Bloods’ ..Hiding out ? Come out, Come out,,Wherever you ARE !! This is One election that Can`t be left up to Chance…not if we are really serious about Change for the Better ! Is Money going to be allowed to buy our Next president ? Tell me That Ain`t gonna happen Again.
    One thing is for certain. Big Government Is Not the Answer..Look At what it has Already Cost The American People.. With this guvmts` attempts to buy votes , supporting Illegal aliens.

  • chuckb

    confoundme once, we do have a very good candidate, she’s not backed by the republican hierarchy, she can stand up to the liberals and the liberals fear her, sarah palin, we don’t need romney, huckabee or any republican rino. we have a problem in the party and it has reared it’s head again, this last go around with the 2011 budget proves one thing the republicans that run the perty are the problem, we need to vote them out. boehner is a prime example along with mitch mcconnell. it’s time we revolutionize the party and install new leaders.

  • tim

    How come no one knows him or remembers him where he supposedly went to college??? The man is a friggen fraud and should be impeached!!!!

    • da norseman

      Absolutely!!!

    • JUKEBOX

      What about the grant he got as a foreign exchange student?

      • smilee

        MORE PURE PROPAGANDA

        • http://naver samurai

          Records are kept on grants, so it isn’t propaganda moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            BUT THE POINT IS HE DIDN’T GET A GRANT!!!!!!!! SO THERE CAN BE NO RECORD THEn CAN THERE!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Can you prove that, moron? He was a citizen of Indonesia, so he probably came here as an exchange student. He had no one taking care of him here, so how would he get money for school without a grant? Think, bonzo! Think! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            CAN YOU PROVE HE DID??????????????????????????????????

          • http://naver samurai

            He attended school in Indonesia and you had to be a citizen of Indonesia to do that by law. Ergo, if he came to America to attend school, he would be comming as an Indonesian citizen and not an American. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT SCHITT SAMMIE

          • http://naver samurai

            Since his mother married a man in Indonesia and lived there, yes I do. Speaking of s***, that must be the stuff comming out of your ears and down your neck. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    Too many reasons why Palin cannot be considered as a serious contender for Presidency. One. More than ever before, We need a Strong , Knowledgeable Presence in The Seat..And Two, She simply does not Have a Voice Anyone can take Seriously. Foreign Nations Would not Want to deal with her on “Even Ground’…No matter How “Intelligent’ she might think herself to be. Just being able to ‘See Russia from her back door’ does not make her a good choice for World Acceptance. And, add The Fact she has no Experience in Leadership …( The Short stint she Spent as Guvnor in Alaska does not Qualify her for the JOB. So..We must keep seining for Better candidates ..And Make It Soon. It Might be a Great Move to have a Woman President…BUT She just Simply does not Fill the Ticket. Ya Betcha !

    • GeorgeE

      It won’t be hard to find someone that can do a better job than BO. When you compare each of the possible candidates against him, they all look pretty good to me.

      • smilee

        BUT SHE CERTAINLY CAN NOT

        • http://naver samurai

          Don’t forget, Michelle Bachman issued a challenge to debate him and he still hasn’t answered yet. Maybe because she don’t need a teleprompter for help. Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, etc., would beat Obama bin Laden hands down if the election was today, so what’s your point moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            NO NEED TO!! SHE IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT!!

          • http://naver samurai

            The person was talking about someone doing better then Obama bin Laden and I just gave a few examples of one that are better than he. What a moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            YOUR ARE SO CONFUSED!! SHE IS SIMPLY IRRELEVANT AND A WASTE OF HIS AND EVERYONE’S TIME

          • http://naver samurai

            It is a fact that she did this and you can’t deny it. I found it on http://www.newsmax.com, but she has also formed an exploritory committee and I think she wants to run for president. She’s more capable and qualified than the pretender we have in office now. At least she can produce school records, proof of her work, owned a successful business, and can show the long form of her birth certificate. She is also a strong woman, Christian, pro life, anti gay, wants to get back to the ways of our founding, and all these things are what Obama bin Laden and fools like you (Chris) are affraid of. Why? Because she’ll take people like you and castrate you all? Something to think about, isn’t it? 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서! 예수님 일음으로! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! In Jesus’ name….

          • smilee

            samurai says:
            April 20, 2011 at 10:40 pm

            NEWSMAX, OH MY GOD THE BIGGEST CONSERVATIVE PROPAGANDA MACHINE IN THE COUNTRY AND YOU BELIEVE IT. THEY ARE THE MASTER OF SPREADING LIES AND THIS JUST GOES TO PROVE WHAT I HAVE SAID OF YOU BEFORE YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN OR CANNOT RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH IF WE SHOVED YOUR FACE IN IT.

  • http://com i41

    See Brewer caved n the birth certificate bill and the right to carry on campus. Have too see what the dems and Onumnutts promised and what is given. This crossbred marxist muslimm niggardly disreguard of xontracts and his signature means nothing, how can any “dumbocrap” continue to support this smuck bastard, since he will not show a BC but a live birth certificate. Really wonder who or what wandering buck was his papee. A long form should have sire and dam names on it.

    • smilee

      YOUR RACISM IS SHOWING AGAIN

      • http://naver samurai

        Yes, he does use racial language, but the message is clear. Need to get this pretender out of office, before its too late. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • chuckb

    confoundme once, palin did a great job as governor and i could care less about what foreign nations think. you talk about a strong presence, she seems pretty strong to me, she has lots of guts, that’s more than any of the current crop of contenders can say. trump is the only one of the men who speaks out, however, how far can you trust him,
    mark levin kind of took him apart.
    i think it is better we have a person who is not controlled by the party and palin isn’t. when you come up with that super person let us know.

  • Gregor

    Well…. That’s all fine and good and I do hope the Birther Bill is
    passed.. BUT!.. That Woman Governor is a mixed bag and somehow, She’s
    going to nix this thing. Maybe not but… the way things are going, I wouldn’t be surprised.
    Arizona needs a ‘ Sheriff Arpaio’ type in the Governor’s chair. She just doesn’t cut it, as far as, I’m concerned.

  • Doc Sarvis

    She Vetoed it!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    Strange thing..I was of the understanding that Palin Opted out (just Quit ) Of the ‘position of Guvnor’ In the district? she was ‘seated’. Correct me if I Am mistaken ? Was she let go in favor of someone else ? What ? Personally, I saw nothing in her favor that would warrant her becoming anything More than a housewife. In view of all the kids she has ( with one very much in need of a full-time Mother ) She would have nothing left to devote to “”other forms of Leadership.” Take it or leave it..It does not matter to me. I know I am not the only one who Has this exact opinion of Palin. Best to Keep on Looking for a more Backable Candidate…For she certainly is not IT. If she is The Pick of the Litter from the TeaPartiers, then that group had best find another choice if they want to be Taken Seriously, come Vote-Time . The one thing they have done, so far, is divide and throw away votes that might count ..in the Republican bid for the presidency !( Tho, they have shown no candidate that is not a Throw-back from previous runs for the Golden Ring.. and who now presents worse than ever before. ) I wish I could come up with an acceptable candidate who is capable of leading this country out of the dreadful mire these Two Parties ( REPUB & Democs ) Have Thrown us in. I Do believe it is NOW Up to the Libertarian Party to Pull us out of the ditch. It is the best solution to this “TWO-headed..ONE Minded dragon.. that has led us so deep off tract. Well worth a Go. I`m all for it..and will Stay behind it…And , God Willing, IT will do the hard pulling that is needed… chuckb, How about you ? any suggestions to throw in the pot ? Maybe you are up to the Job yourself ? I am not In the running..But I can still think circles around Most folks.

  • chuckb

    confoundme once, i don’t consider palin a party hack and at this point there are few if any republicans who i would enjoy backing, of course we could pick some one off the street that would be better that what we have in the white house today. the libertarians would never make it, most people i know shy away from them. we need a person that is interested in the country not a political parties point of view. palin is a threat to the democrats and they have and are still throwing the kitchen sink at her, they know she can defeat them. show me any candidate that can draw an audience like she can. she quit her position
    as governor because of the lawsuits the democrats were throwing at her.why do you think they fear her more than any other candidate?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      chuckb,
      We need to get Duncan Hunter Sr to run again and get behind him!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    Honestly..I do not know Why Palin Quit her job. I just know she is no longer Guvnor..So..Must have decided to be known as a Quitter..And not as a Fighter who knows How to Win ! I wish her well in her future endeavors, but the Presidency is way out of her league. The Country is In bad straits, but she is not one who has the Ability to Change things for the better. ( No more so than B.O. has proven to be able to do,thus far !) I have seen Noone Throwing a hat into this three-ring circus..that I Would Put my vote on. I hope Soon someone will surface. And Don`t try counting the Libertarian Party OUT. It hasn`t yet shown its` Hand with a Candidate of their Choice. I am sure there IS one. Perhaps this is simply good strategy.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Confounded,
      if you don’t know why she quit, then you know nothing about her so maybe you shouldn’t be commenting about her!! Do a little research and come back. It’s all there, if you look!!

      • smilee

        SHE COULD NO LONGER STAND THE HEAT IN THE KITCHEN, SO SHE GOT OUT

        • http://naver samurai

          BS! She quit being the governor because she was running as the VP candidate. Get your facts straight before you post moron! There is one thing that George Washington said and deals with the POTUS today. “…Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism…” This descibes what we patriots have been doing and the pretended patriotism fits Obama bin Laden to a “T”. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            WHAT!!! WHAT!! SHE HAD LOST THAT RACE BEFORE SHE RESIGNED!! QUIT YOUR BARKING PUPPY DOG!! WANT ME TO GO GET YOUR MUSSEL!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Anyone can tell you she resigned to run as the VP candidate. You can’t run for VP and do the job of a governor at the same time, now can you? She would be gone too long to do that. Moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            sammie

            SHE RESIGNED AFTER SHE LOST THE RACE FOR THE VICE PRESIDENCY, JUST AS BIDEN DID NOT RESIGN THE SENATE UNTIL HE WON, BUT HE HAD TO THEN SO HE COULD BE VP, PALIN RESIGNED BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO AND FOR NO OTHER REASON, BUT THINGS WHERE GETTING PRETTY HOT FOR HER AND THEY WHERE WILLING TO FORGET CORRUPTION INVESTIGATIONS IF SHE LEFT BUT THAT WAS AFTER SHE LOST THE RACE. I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT THE TRUTH IS NEVER IMPORTANT TO YOU AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF IT

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong again moron! Making a mistake is irrelevent. Just like all your postings on this site. She would still make a better president than the pretender we have now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Jay

          smilee, she’s twice the woman you are!

          • smilee

            Seeing as I’m not a woman, I’ll give your that

          • http://naver samurai

            She’s more than anything compared to smilee. She’s more educated, patriotic, has a spouse, has children, etc., and this moron is just jealous because he’ll never be anything. Ooops! I forgot, he is something. He’s a traitor and coward and a disgrace to this great nation of ours. He didn’t even have the nads to serve. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            ITS OBVIOUS YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME AS ALL YOU JUST SAID IS NOT TRUE, BUT SEEING AS THE TRUTH IS NEVER IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT’S NOT SURPRISING

  • Jay

    Obama is exposed as a foundation operative and agent of Wall Street finance capital, controlled by Zbigniew Brzezinski, George Soros, and Goldman Sachs.

    Obama’s mother was an official of the Ford Foundation, the World Bank, and US AID. By all indications, Obama was identified for future political use by Brzezinski at Columbia in 1981-1983, during Obama’s secret lost years.

    Obama has worked for the Gamaliel Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund, and the Annenberg Foundation as a community organizer – a poverty pimp, a cynical opportunist who uses suffering people as a political commodity.

    The foundation strategy is divide and conquer, pitting blacks against whites against Hispanics against Asians, to prevent any challenge to Wall Street.

    Racist provocateurs like Wright and Pfleger, along with Weatherman terrorist bombers Ayers and Dohrn, Obama’s best friends, are cast in this mold. Rezko, Auchi, and Al-Sammarae represent the cesspool of Chicago graft and corruption in which Obama cavorts. Schooled in Nietzsche and Fanon, Obama qualifies as a postmodern fascist.

    An Obama administration would strive for brutal economic sacrifice and austerity to finance Wall Street bailouts, and for imperialist confrontation with Russia and China.

    • smilee

      YOUR FICTIONAL IMAGINATION IS QUITE INTERESTING, AS FICTION THAT IS

      • http://naver samurai

        The people are known associates of Obama bin Laden and those are facts on record. Can you prove otherwise with some facts and sources to back them up with, moron? (Chris) 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • smilee

          PUPPY DOG!! GO LAY DOWN BY YOUR DISH NOW!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ah yes, still being the moron! I guess it’s a waste of my time to expect you to be a man, grow a pair, and answer the challenge I gave you. People like you make our country look bad, not just to other countries either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            YOUR BARK IS GETTING MORE SHRILL, PUPPY DOG

          • http://naver samurai

            I guess what Jack Nickleson said in A Few Good Men applies to you moron. “You can’t handle the truth.” Get the point, moron? You can’t win, so give up and go back down to mommy’s basement like a good boy! Woof, woof! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Jay

        Truth hurts, hey smilee!

      • Jay

        Hey smilee, you’re obviously an OB supporter, does this mean we are supporting you through OB with welfare payments? Perhaps these are the new conditions in order to qualify for WELFARE, staying up all night and trolling conservative blogs in order to qualify for your next welfare check!!! What a life, pathetic!

        • smilee

          I support the truth, it has nothing to do with Obama but you read into it what you like, assumptions only come from people who disregard facts

          • http://naver samurai

            If you knew what truth was, I might believe you. Hence, I don’t believe you. Time to seriously start making that popping sound. You are an inflamed boil on the buttocks of this country and need to be surgically removed with a quickness. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            You support the truth, smilee? Tell me, what is truth?

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree with you Jay, but you have to understand that this moron doesn’t let a little thing, like the truth, stand in the way of attacking someone and a good rant. This moron (Chris) probably won’t answer your questions. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Jay says:
            April 21, 2011 at 2:23 pm

            TRUTH = DOCUMENTS SUPPORTED BY FACTS NOT ASSUMPTIONS THAT YOU TOSS OUT HAP HAPHAZARDLY

  • General Quantrill

    Samurai,

    It is obvious that young SMILEE has the age old malady that affects most of the youth in the world today! It is obvious that SMILEE suffers from HUTA syndrome, and as such…should not really be taken seriously. HUTA is common among elitists, narcissists, Liberals, Democrats, and MORONS!!!

    So, Samurai…your ongoing and correct diagnosis of our young friend’s ailment requires reinforcement from a second party, in order for this poor afflicted soul to finally realize their dilemma, and REMOVE their Head from Up Their A$$!! HUTA is a very debilitating, and crippling mental disorder, so those afflicted by this are usually delusional, and require STRONG REALITY CHECKS in order for them to realize their malady, and begin corrective procedures, before they negatively affect the lives of WELL ADJUSTED, SANE people like you and I.

    I will now apply such REALITY CHECKS, to snap this poor, deluded soul out of their HUTA syndrome fantasy world.

    SMILEE…WAKE UP!!! LISTEN CLOSEL….YOU’RE A MORON!! YOU’RE A MORON!! SNAP OUT OF IT…..MORON! MORON!!! MORON!! You have Head Up The A$$ syndrome you MORON!! SNAP OUT OF IT, BEFORE YOU HURT YOURSELF OR OTHERS!!

    Have a Nice Day…..MORON!!

    General Quantrill

    • http://naver samurai

      Very true, informative, and funny. Thank you fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • smilee

      General Quantrill says:
      April 20, 2011 at 3:49 am

      THE BEST YON CAN DO IS TOSS OUT INSULTS AND ASSUMPTIONS BUT I DO HAVE TO THANK YOU FOR THINKING I’M A YOUNG MAN WHEN IN FACT I AM AN OLD ONE, A SENIOR CITIZEN, HOPEFULLY IF YOU MAKE IT TO THAT AGE YOU WILL IN THAT JOURNEY ACQUIRE SOME WISDOM AND MATURITY WHICH YOU ARE SADLY LACKING IN JUST LIKE SAMMY BOY.

  • Jay

    Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007.

    In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko.

    In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors.

    One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares.

    Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.

  • Jay

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who promised a new era of ethics enforcement in the House of Representatives, snuck a $25 million gift to her husband, Paul Pelosi, in a $15 billion Water Resources Development Act recently passed by Congress.

    The pet project involved renovating ports in Speaker Pelosi’s home base of San Francisco. Pelosi just happens to own apartment buildings near the areas targeted for improvement, and will almost certainly experience a significant boost in property value as a result of Pelosi’s earmark.

    Earlier in the year, Pelosi found herself in hot water for demanding access to a luxury Air Force jet to ferry the Speaker and her entourage back and forth from San Francisco non-stop, in unprecedented request which was wisely rejected by the Pentagon.

    And under Pelosi’s leadership, the House ethics process remains essentially shut down – which protects members in both parties from accountability.

  • Jay

    The Bilderbergers are so secretive that they even try to hide, until the last minute, the location of their gathering places. Attendance is by invitation only and if an invitee’s name is publicly disclosed beforehand, he or she is disinvited.

    Perhaps these three quotes will explain what the secrecy is all about. The Times of London in 1977 called the Bilderbergers “a clique of the richest, economically and politically most powerful and influential men in the Western world, who meet secretly to plan events that later appear just to happen.”

    Said Bilderberg Group founder Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands, “It is difficult to re-educate people who have been brought up on nationalism to the idea of relinquishing part of their sovereignty to a supranational body.” (The late prince has been replaced by his daughter, Queen Beatrix, who regularly attends the Bilderberg meetings.)

    Former British Defense Minister Denis Healey, put it this way, “World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.”

    Every US president since Eisenhower has either belonged to the Bilderberg Group or its older parallel group, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), or been approved by them. As Estulin wrote, the race is no contest when you own both horses. That is why no matter which political party is in power nothing really changes other than the packaging. The puppets who drink at the champagne fountains of the powerful do the bidding of their masters. The people are superfluous to the process.

    And it’s not just in the US. The Bilderberg Group and its parallel groups, among which are the CFR, the Trilateral Commission (founded by David Rockefeller and Brzezinski), the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) based at Chatham House in London, and their interlocking memberships are at work throughout the Western world and are endeavoring to get their hooks into the rest. The European Union is their baby.

    When Bilderberger Margaret Thatcher, the high priestess of privatization, balked on adopting the euro as the UK’s currency, the Bilderbergers had her dumped as prime minister and replaced by John Major.

    Like the CFR, which in the course of its history has embraced and financed the Bolsheviks, Communists, Socialists, Nazis and fascists, the Bilderbergers also play all sides. Thus, in 1980, the Bilderbergers decided François Mitterand was to be resurrected and restored to power as France’s next president. After attending the 1999 Bilderberg meeting, Romano Prodi was sworn in as president of Europe in the fall of that year; when his termed ended in 2005, he was elected prime minister of Italy.

    Estulin makes it clear that these people will use any means — legal or illegal — in pursuit of their goal of total subjugation to their New World Order or One World Company, as they prefer to call it: wars, coups, assassinations; control of banking, finance, business, the media, education (dumbing down all but an elite needed to run things) and even religion to keep people in check.

    He notes that David Rockefeller said in his Memoirs, “Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it.”

    Incorporated in this group are the neoconservatives — “those who have determined that Israel’s security should come at the expense of the safety to the United States and be central to all US foreign policy decisions.” Richard Perle is a regular attendee at Bilderberg meetings. Michael Ledeen attended the 2005 meeting.

    Media moguls such as Rupert Murdock, the now disgraced Conrad Black, Viacom (parent company of CBS) CEO Sumner Redstone, the Washington Post’s Katherine Graham (now deceased), Washington Post columnists Jim Hoagland and Charles Krauthammer, New York Times Editor Arthur Sulzberger and columnist Thomas L. Friedman, William F. Buckley, Jr., and Bill Moyers have all been Bilderberg meeting invitees.

    “The ideas and policies that come out of the Bilderberg annual meetings are used to generate the news in the leading periodicals and news groups of the world. The point is to make the prevalent opinions of the Bilderbergers so appealing that they become public policy and to pressure world leaders unto submitting to the ‘needs of the Masters of the Universe.’ The ‘free world press’ is completely at the mercy of the Bilderbergers disseminating the agreed upon propaganda,” Estulin points out.

    This is just a smattering of the information Estulin has managed to pack into his well-written 340-page book, complete with photographs, documents and an index.

    If all this seems far-fetched, look around. America has been stripped of its industrial base. The good jobs have been or are being offshored, while Americans are working harder and longer at service sector jobs for less pay and fewer to no benefits. Americans have been dumbed down in public and private schools, universities and colleges. Their only worth now is as consumers of mainly foreign made goods. They are kept in check by religion, sports, idiotic “reality” TV, video games and anything else that turns off thinking.

    Democracy, freedom and national sovereignty are anathema to the wannabe masters of the universe. But the Bilderbergers and their parallel groups and allied think tanks have been working to do away with all three. Elections have been rigged. The US, Canada and Great Britain are on the verge of becoming police states, thanks to the bogus “war on terror” used to pump up people’s fears. All that remains in their grand plan is to replace the last vestiges of sovereign nations with a series of regional unions that they will control via the United Nations, outlawing all nationalism.
    But they may have overplayed their hand, as the grand scheme is fraying around the edges. Not all Europeans are ready to surrender their countries’ sovereignty to the EU. Canadians who know more about the plan for a North American Union than Americans are diametrically opposed to it. A revitalized Russia, which has a historical wariness of outsiders, has its own ideas. And despite all the Western investment in China, Beijing is proving to be a problem in its refusal to float the yuan to bail out the financial mess the greedy Bilderberger bankers and financiers have made, which may explain the Carlyle Group’s sale of 9.9 percent of itself to the Chinese as a hoped for hook to bring China to their table.

    As the old adage says, knowledge is power, and Daniel Estulin is providing every reader of The True Story of the Bilderberg Group with the knowledge they need to aid in destroying the Bilderbergers’ grand plan by bringing it to the attention of family, friends and colleagues. It is up to us to get this book into as many hands as possible, because Estulin will get no help promoting it from the corporate media.

    Collectively, the people hold the power to save themselves and that frightens the Bilderbergers and their cohorts the most. But that power is useless if the people refuse to exercise it or surrender it to those who would enslave us.
    Copyright © 1998-2007 Online Journal

    • http://naver samurai

      Good post. Darn good post. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Confoundme once but not twice

    It is an excellent post, Jay…and >>>I want a copy of Estulins` Quite informative book ( Please, where can I Purchase one .) It appears he has done a good service to the American Citizens ( And the rest of the world ) in publizing the ‘back-bone of the bildergerg snake…O !’cuse please.. Snakes are minus a back-bone.. Yes, This is information we all must have in order to make informed ‘ opinions concerning this country.. We need to digest and to understand. None of us wish to become slaves to a world order that is founded upon the premise of “”Me Big..and You small” so That makes Me your Masta ‘ Meaning..the Rich rule..You peon, shut up and Serve me . The citizens of this country do not have the luxury of ‘sitting on our hands’ and simply waiting for these ‘old heads’ to die off .. (As we know they will all die ) But we also know new snakes emerge from the old. I don`t pretend to be in the know about everything ( like some of the posters here do ) but This much I do Understand quite clearly…None of us were born slaves..And none of us are willing to die as Slaves. And Nor are we going to sit Back and allow that to happen to our children..and grandchildren. It is therefore encumbent upon us all to make certain This Snake is finished , once and for all. It will require the collective efforts of each one of us,.. ( whether we can agree or not if B.O has a legitimate birth certificate that makes him elligible to be POTUS. As I said, fool me once, but don`t try it again. We can settle That Question ? Come Election Time..2012..As we have now Learned thru hard time Experience…that he is not The Man he presented himself to be. Some good posts made here..Some not so great. But Still, Everyone is welcome to their own “Opinion’. Everyone Has one, and is free to state it.( Can’t we agree on that much ? )

  • Jay

    By Steve Cooper
    The Conservative Monster.com

    The term ‘birther’ was created by the American Marxist movement to shame people into silence from speaking out about the possibility that Obama is not eligible to be president. Creating terms like ‘birther’ is a clever way to isolate and label someone, placing them into a politically correct locked box. Attack, paralyze and freeze the enemy right in their tracks; go on the offensive. This is the Alinsky way.

    The left is taking this issue so seriously and this is a real sign of how dangerous of a threat that they feel it is. Anyone that dares to bring it up is immediately attacked on the Internet, but not cable news. Why just the Internet? That is where the talk is still alive and kicking, so the enemy is flooding the Internet with propaganda to combat the stunning growth.

    The entire house of cards in the Democrat party and American political system could drop to the floor and shatter into one million pieces if the American idiots realized that they were duped into voting for an ineligible candidate. There is a difference between a US Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen, but try explaining that to a toothless, crack head Obama-bot.

    The real interesting fact here is that this term ‘birther’ is being used by both the left and the Murdoch puppets at Fox News. This is very rare and it proves to you that there is a lot riding on keeping this conspiracy under wraps; BOTH Parties have an interest in making sure this cover up never blows up in their faces. Some very powerful people from both parties are involved…clearly.

    The repeated use of the term ‘birther’ is being done to place fear into your subconscious from ever publicly speaking about the Obama eligibility issue. This is mass brainwashing in action, it is a clever way to silence your enemies and it is working effectively. Yet, people still are admitting that they want Obama to prove his natural born citizenship when polled, but they are scared to admit it publicly. This is the country that you people want? To be intimidated into silence by the Marxists, Glenn Beck, Fox News and the Tea Party leaders from your right to free speech?

    Vanity Fair recently did a poll and 61% of the people said that they do NOT believe that Obama was born in Hawaii. That number is stunning. Who makes up the other 39% who believe it? Liberals and brainwashed Glenn beck followers that lack the capabilities to think for themselves. I am surprised that they do not need Beck to teach them how to get dressed in the morning.

    People are very easily manipulated and scared these days. Scared of ridicule or being called a racist are the two biggest fears. This is how the communists silence free speech and Glenn Beck has been using Alinsky tactics against his won fans for quite a while on the Obama eligibility topic.

    Whether it is controlled opposition or plan fear of being blamed for the next race war. Glenn Beck and Fox News clearly are trying to hide something for someone here and I believe that someone is John McCain for not demanding that this issue be resolved before the election. The Democrats held a Senate hearing on John McCain’s alleged ineligibility and McCain did not demand a similar hearing for Obama knowing full well that lawsuits were filed against him questioning his eligibility? I am sorry, but I can not get past that point, I believe that is the root of this conspiracy. The John McCain silence on this issue prior to the election.

    The Democrats were the first birthers, because they questioned McCain’s eligibility, but nobody called them crazy. Why is this? These are the questions that you need to be asking John McCain, Glenn Beck and Bill O’.

    The evidence seems to point into the direction that Obama was in fact born in Kenya, but the real issue is that fact that his father was not a US citizen and that means that he is NOT a natural born citizen as required by the US Constitution.

    The Anti-Birther movement is an anti-Constitution, un-American movement. Write that on your blackboard, BECK!

    • smilee

      YOUR FUNNY, EVERY LIBERAL I KNOW IS LAUGHING THEIR A$$ OFF AT THE BIRTHERS, BUT AFRAID, WHAT A JOKE. DREAM ON FUNNY BOY!!!

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