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Arizona Governor Questions Bloomberg’s Cross-Country Investigation

February 7, 2011 by  

Arizona governor questions Bloomberg's cross-country investigationArizona officials are perplexed about New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's recent investigation that occurred thousands of miles outside of his jurisdiction.

Bloomberg has urged Congress to fix "loopholes" in Federal gun laws after undercover video allegedly showed gun vendors in Phoenix failing to conduct background checks before selling firearms. The mayor used NYC funds to send investigators to a gun show in the Grand Canyon State.

"He's out here in Arizona solving our problems. I guess he believes that he has solved all the problems in New York," Arizona Governor Jan Brewer told FOX News.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio took exception to Bloomberg's investigation, claiming that the mayor overstepped his jurisdictional boundaries. According to the news provider, Arpaio said that elected officials are making a habit of infringing on his county's law enforcement policies — first with immigration reform and now with gun control.

Appearing on MSNBC on Feb. 1, Bloomberg called on President Barack Obama to take a firmer stance on gun control. Since last month's deadly shooting in Tucson, Ariz., the mayor has stepped up his efforts to promote stricter policies, which he says will help "stop all this carnage."

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  • Rolland

    Bloomberg needs to solve NYC problems, before he sticks his liberal nose in others’ business.

    • JC

      He can’t. He says that tighter gun controls will “stop all this carnage”. What an absolute fantasy land he must live in….
      No, he’s just out to do his bit to disarm Americans for the NWO gangsters.
      Sadly though he has the support of all the statist dependant sheep who are afraid of their own shadow and actually believe that somehow Government has a magic wand.

      • WTH

        Whatever… do what they do to us. If they notice you have a gun or what they think is a gun, just deny that it is a gun… call it something else. In other words, speak their language.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/big-budget-bingo/?eiid=&rmid=2011_01_27_PLA_PIZ0411D&rrid=307098176 GyroTyro

      It is my understanding that to purchase a firearm in any given state you must show proof or residency for that state. If bloombergs investigators bought guns in Arizona they had to show proof of residency, Was it forged credentials or those bought in Chicago? In either case the buyers should be prosecuted for violating the laws they supposedly are enforcing.

      • Ed8114

        Further, Bloomberg should be prosecuted for conspiracy to violate Federal firearms laws in making an illegal out-of-state purchase. He and his purchaser are also guilty of making a “straw-man” purchase, another Federal crime.

        But do you think anyone in law enforcement will raise these issues? Not a chance!

        • Dan az

          If there is one person that will you can bet it will be sheriff joe!

      • Sprock

        Bloomberg hired residents of Arizona, Private Investigators, to accomplish this sting. They had a valid Arizona ID. The point was to show that nobody is enforcing the rules as they currently exist. If you don’t want government to create new laws then make sure the vendors are following the rules or they will change.

        • http://PLD Mark Gillaspy

          Sprock, how do you know that??? Were you there??? Do you own a gun??? Have you ever been robbed at weapons point??? If you were to have your families life being threatened would you defend them with a gun or anything nessesary to do so??? Do not play coward with us, you are a plant.I defend my people, not role over and cover my head.

          • Sprock

            Boy Mark what an overblown response to the truth. This may surprise you but there have been several news stories about this. They did something called an “interview” with the Mayor and he “explained” what he did and why.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Yes sprock, they did interviews and we all know Bloomberg wouldn’t lie now, don’t we? He is just another Daley!!! his kind will someday stub their toe on the truth, watch!

        • Dan az

          You know this how Facts please!If you would read the laws of AZ then you would know that if they the seller was private then they did not break any laws!So Im sure you already know this so what is your point?

          • Sprock

            Federal firearms laws, which are active in all States, say that anyone selling a firearm is in violation of the law if they sell to someone that they reasonably believe is ineligible to purchase a firearm. You know, convicted felon, on drugs or mentally unstable. One of the undercover agents clearly told 2 sellers that he didn’t think he could pass a background check.

          • Dan az

            sprokit
            Check out the tenth amendment and read up the laws in arizona before you make your self look like eddiee47

        • JC

          Sprock says:
          February 7, 2011 at 3:56 pm
          Bloomberg hired residents of Arizona, Private Investigators, to accomplish this sting. They had a valid Arizona ID.

          How would you like to cite your source for this information?
          You say it’s the truth…prove it.
          I’m sure that won’t be a problem for you…

        • Sue B

          Sprock – do you know the laws of Arizona regarding gun sales between private parties? If you do – quote the law. Bloomberg SHOULD have more than enough to do in New York without going to Arizona.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Sprock,
            An answer, please?!?!?!??

          • Dan az

            crickets just more crickets!

  • Patriot66

    That was my first question when I heard about this. What’s a mayor of New York doing in Arizona in the first place? It’s obvious this globally connected want to be monarch is one of the creeps interested in disarming America so they can enslave the whole country.

  • Lori

    I love Sheriff Joe Arpaio, I wish we could have one of him in every county!

    Why is it so hard for people understand the 2nd Ammendment? They argue about the language and what the words mean…why?
    Perhaps one should take a look at the fact that citizens have had the RIGHT to own guns continuously since prior to the ratification of the Constitution…without a background check and without the requirement of registration. Beware of the Sophists!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      The right to “keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon.”

      ANY gun regulations are an infringement. Hence, all gun regulations should be erased, null and void.

      Ouf founders said that the government should be afraid of the people and that would promote healthy government. That was true then, and is just as true today.

    • Ellet

      If any one that doesn’t understand what the 2nd Amendment means it is obvious that they have never read any of the writings of our forefather founders. The writings show that they meant that the individual citizens right, no, their duty is to be armed.

    • vicki

      Another interesting detail is that the 1st amendment is directed as a specific limit to Congress and thus the Fedgov. The others would seem to be directed at ALL government.

  • http://MozzelaFirefox Jo

    If we didn’t have our guns we wouldn’t still be free. They get our guns, it’s over.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Jo:

      Truer words were never spoken.

      The blood bath that will ensue when they try, and they will, will make the Civil War look tame.

      • vicki

        Since they have already taken away many of our guns I am not sure I share your optimism.

  • Robert

    Mr Bloomburg also came to Tennessee and did a so called investigation and claimed to have bought guns illegally from licenses dealers but I never heard of any proof of that. He needs to stay at home and clean up NY city it certianly needs it.

  • Howard Roark

    Bloomburg is a socialist. socialism is communism by installment. communist have always known that for their communist agenda to succeed they must strip gun owenership from the people. James Madison wrote in the Fereralist that the leaders of many countrys must fear their citizens because they disarm them, but in the United States we allow our citizens to own firearms.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree with that Howard, I don’t think Bloomberg is through.

    • mom1954

      YOU WOULD THINK WITH THE NAME BOOMBERG,HE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO HAVE ISSUES WITH HITLER TYPE THINKING!!!!!!!!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Mom1954:

        Soros is a Jew and worked with the Nazis to take property from fellow Jews during WWII. He said it gave him a feeling of power.

        Socialists / communists like Bloomberg believe they know better that all the great unwashed. Plus, you cannot control / enslave armed citizens.

        Free men own guns, slaves do not.

        • Dean

          I dislike Soros as much as anyone but he was born in 1930. Helping Hitler kill Jews would have been awfully precocious.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            I did not say anything abut him helping to kill Jews. I stated he helped Nazis in his native Hungary to steal / confiscate their property. He was 14 at the time and went around with a local Nazi on his “rounds”.

        • Al Sieber

          Old Henry, you got that right, you know your history about Soros.

      • Lastmanstanding

        Mom, The Jewish people that live in my community are tremendously wealthy. These people are highly educated and are capitalists to the max. They all voted for obama and for the life of me I cannot figure it out.

        Perhaps it is because in history, Hilter was portrayed as a far right-wing wacko when in actuality he was a far-left wac. Just more of the same lies that have been circulating for a century.

        In reply to the article…

        No decent human wants to use a firearm on another. EVER.

        • 45caliber

          Last:

          “No decent human wants to use a firearm on another. EVER.”

          That is correct. However, I do want a gun around in case some NON-decent human decides he has a right to my property and my life. And if I do have to shoot him … oh, well.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Copy that 45cal. I’m with you on that bullet point!!!lol

        • kate8

          Lastman – Amazingly enough, the reason Jews have always voted democrat is mainly because it is a vote against Christianity, which they perceive as being on the Right, not a vote against conservatism.

          The fact that (true) Christendom is what allowed the Jews the freedom to thrive in our nation has somehow escaped their logic.

          • Al Sieber

            I agree with that Kate.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Thank you Kate8. I never thought of it that way.

          • JC

            Good Point Kate, That and when they support the socialists, they’re obviously forgetting how Hitler managed to kill 6 million of them…because they could not defend themselves.

          • a Leo de lion

            Kate8: Communism is a jewish institution ….. fits in well with Democrates. The 1938 German Arms Act gave the citizens of Germany more gun rights than US citizens now have. Even jews. One thing the act did was to deny the jews control of gun manufactoring and distribution of arms. The reason the jews didn’t fight was not lack of arms but the lie that 6,000,000 of them were killed by Hitler. Or Germans. Get a copy of the 1938 GAA and read it for yourself.
            And quit playing the Hitler/Nazi card. It will not work with thinking people.

          • vicki

            They all fight the wrong axis. We need to teach the correct axis of evil. Soon. 100%-0% government.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

  • Bitter Libertarian

    The Arizona Governor should swear out warrants for their arrest. I would.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Bloomberg sticks his nose in other people’s business, he should get it broken off.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Or slapped off by a writ!!!

  • Deep River Rat

    Bloomburg has a immagration problem in NYC.Stay home and take care of your problems.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Hey Deep River rat…are you in Deep River CT? If so we are neighbors.

  • http://msn Kerri

    The only way for a government can control the people is to disarm them. The libs. want total gun control as in We The People having no guns. Through legislation and then a U.N. small arms treaty. No one in our gove. has the right or authority to ratify a treaty that would take away our second ammendment rights. But watch them do it. Taking our guns will be much harder. So you all better get your weapons before they start putting us in a govt. database.

    • Ellen

      Kerri, unfortunately we’re in numerous government databases already.

  • CoosaTotah

    Tit-for-tat! Governor Jan Brewer should send a team of investigators to New York and perform the same investigations that Bloomberg has done in Arizona. Do you think she will find it any different in New York?

    The Second Amendment DOES NOT GIVE US the right to “keep and bear arms”! IT PROTECTS OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT from intrusion and infringement by anyone including ANY government or persons, whether federal, state, county, city, etc.! The Second Amendment does NOT state “shall not be infringed by the government”, It states “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!” Thereby, BY ANYONE! It is a God given right to self defense, community defense, county defense, state defense from ANYONE who would threaten our individual and collective “security” in addition to a means to gather food, a sport, and competitive events.

    • Rolland

      CoosaTotah, I wish ALL of the people would understand this. This is a FACT.
      The founding fathers knew what they were doing. They KNEW that the 2nd amendment was NECESSARY to protect us from an UNCONTROLLABLE UNCONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT sometime in the future. They knew their HISTORY and did not want us to experience what other countries had experienced.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Rolland:

        UNCONTROLLABLE UNCONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT sometime in the future.

        The future has arrived….

    • 45caliber

      Coosa:

      I’m not sure there are any gun dealers IN NYC. I know it is illegal to even own one unless you get permission from city hall – and that is very hard to get if you aren’t a policeman or a politician.

      • Concerned

        Before Bloomberg goes forth with his campaign against guns, he should look at the statistics of Washington, DC. Before the gun ban was lifted a couple of years ago, DC had the highest murder rate by guns in the nation. They had the strictest gun control in the nation and also the highest murder rate. In other areas where gun ownership is allowed per the 2nd Ammendment, crime rates with guns is much, much lower. This should scream loudly to the anti-gunners, but they are too focused on their unconstitutional activity to hear it.

        Oh, how I wish there was one brave soul who will challenge NYC gun laws like Otis McDonald in Chicago and Heller and Parker in DC. I would think that the decision by the Supreme Court in the Chicago case would also apply to NYC.

        One other very important point that I have not seen stated is that the gunman in Arizona did NOT buy his gun at a gun show. Neither did Hinckley in his assassination attempt on President Reagan. Bloomberg and other gun grabbers are only using it as an excuse to push their agenda of disarming the legal gun owner. We need to watch them closely to make sure they don’t succeed. Make your voices heard on election day in 2012 to put the progressive, socialists out of power in the Office of President, in the House and the Senate.

        • 45caliber

          NYC is or at least used to be neck-and-neck with Washington DC about who had the worst murder rate. I don’t know about it now.

        • JC

          Concerned, I know you’re right and you know you are right, and a 4 year old can see the morality of armed self defense…so what could the Mayor of NYC’s motive be?
          I say its the disarming of America because nothing else makes any sense at all.

      • http://personallibertydigest gunner689

        Then drugs, prostitution, and a multiple of over illegal activities that thrive in NYC should be investigated. Why aren’t organized street gangs arrested under the RECCO Act ?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I’ll bet good money a person that has lived in NYC for a few years can buy a gun on the corner as fast as a gun show or at a dealer!!

  • Susan

    I bet Jan Brewer could and should kick his sissy butt all the way back to NEW YORK CITY! He wants Arizonians to be without guns so his thugs in NYC can have a leg up and buy the confiscated weapons for cheap.

    • 45caliber

      Actually, I think he just wants to make sure the pipeline for illegal drugs doesn’t run into a civilian with a gun of their own.

  • Ellen

    We live in a computerized society, so would it be difficult to have background checks at gun shows? Local law enforcement could be at every gun show with several computers waiting to run checks on people who happen to find a gun to purchase. Most likely, felons won’t be attempting to purchase guns there anyway, as they can purchase them easily & quietly on their own.

    • Al Sieber

      Ellen, criminals can always get guns no matter what, Bloomberg needs to take care of crime ridden NYC and stay out of Ariz.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Amen Al!!!

    • 45caliber

      All reputable dealers do run background checks at gun shows. I’ve had one done when I bought one there. Very few don’t because they know that BATF has people wandering around and they don’t want to lose their license. The EXCEPTIONS you hear about are just that – exceptions. And it annoys me for politicians to insist they have the right to take away my rights because of some exception.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I was at a show about 4 weeks ago in Euclid Ohio and watched many sales and I didn’t see one that didn’t do a check on the purchaser!! bloomberg needs to concentrate on NYC and its national border. When his is crime free and his border is air tight, then MAYBE he will have the right to gripe altho I doubt it!!

        • kate8

          All the background checks really do, anyway, is let the feds know where all the guns are.

          Criminals don’t want the feds knowing they have guns. They buy theirs illegally.

          We used to go to AZ every year, and all you had to know is who to call. No questions asked.

          The truth is, the feds don’t care if criminals have guns. It’s the rest of us they’re worried about.

          • Dan az

            kate you got that right.Its not going to stop them from using the UN treaties though but I feel that they already know that!

        • Al Sieber

          Joe H, I’ve been only asked for ID in Ariz. a few times, Dan knows this too, one time they refused to check my girl friends ID, they said it was unconstitutional, they told her just don’t put it in your purse because there were Feds. there. this was in Kingman Ariz.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Al,
            I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m saying I’ve never seen it and I’ve been to gunshows in a few states as well as gunshops! There will always be one or two bad apples in any basket, does that mean everybody else should suffer because of them??

  • Bitter Libertarian

    **SIDE NOTE**

    Washington sources tell us that a Patriot Act renewal bill is scheduled for a vote in the House TOMORROW, Tuesday February 8.

    They will attempt to pass the bill, H.R.514, under “suspension of the rules,” which requires a two-thirds vote.

    Defeating this will only require 1/3 of Congress. That will buy us time, and time is what we need to educate Congress that the Patriot Act is unnecessary and dangerous

    **THOUGHTS**

    Quote of the Day: “If Big Brother (of Orwell’s 1984) comes to America, he will not be a fearsome, foreboding figure with a heart-chilling, omnipresent glare as in 1984. He will come with a smile on his face, a quip on his lips, a wave to the crowd, and a press that (a) dutifully reports the suppressive measures he is taking to save the nation from internal chaos and foreign threat; and (b) gingerly questions whether he will be able to succeed.” — Michael Parenti, Source: “Inventing Reality” (1986)

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Bitter Libertarian:

      Thank you so much for that piece of information!

      I immediately called the Congressional Switchboard, got my Rep’s office and said to make sure any extension was defeated.

      The woman I spoke with was unaware of the scheduled vote.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Old Henry,
        If that is true then you should get in contact with your rep and bust his you know whats as his people are supposed to be informed better than the public!

        • kate8

          What the heck is this “suspension of the rules” business, anyway!

          So, if they don’t have the votes, they just suspend the rule requiring 2/3 majority, and slip it past. (Like they did with Obamacare, and a bunch of others).

          If they don’t have a simple majority, they “deem” it passed.

          So what’s the purpose of having rules at all, if they only count when it’s a sure thing?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            The more things change, the mor they stay the same.

            Little Boehner will do as he is told.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          JoeH:

          I gave that some thought as I hung up. However, my rep in brand new, elected 11/2, so I decided to overlook it.

          I will call backtoday, 2/8, and ask how the bill is coming and also request that he vote against HR45. That is Der Fuhrer’s gun stealing legislation.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            thanks for the info, I will look into that one as well and tell my reps to trash can it!!

          • a Leo de lion

            Please document even ONE such “gun stealing legislation”.
            Use of the Hitler/Nazi card is an embarrissing move to make toward a knowledgeable/thoughtful person.

    • a Leo de lion

      It didn’t pass. It’s embarrassing, but note how many demorcrats voted against it. The repubs are nearly as bad about gun grabbing, as they are controlled by neo-cons who for the most part hold dual citizenship ….. US/Israeli.

  • marvin

    boomburgerler, holder, nepolitano, obombo are all self serving power hungry policrats that are under the mistaken idea they know what is best for we the under class of america,that they need to spoon feed us their liberal garbage for the only thing between us and them is colt ,just look to the south at mexico,frist rule of a thief never steal for a gun owner,if i was gov brewer i would tell blomburgler to stay to hell out of my state,newyork city has more crime then the whole state of arizona

  • marvin

    sorry first from

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      marvin:

      I know just how you feel my keeboard is always tiping incorrektly!

      It’s not me, it’s the keeboard! People don’t type incorrectly, deebords do!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        old Henry,
        sounds aboot write to me!!

        • kate8

          Joe H. – Me two!

  • s c

    Bloomberg, typical progressive stooge that he is, is clueless. It must be hard on the nerves, trying to out-pc the next progressive. Wring your hands, howl at the moon and hope for the best that they still consider your sorry asterisk to be a ‘progressive in good standing.’ LOSERS.
    Bloomberg suffers from the theory that progressives must control everyone everywhere (for their own good, of course). If they got positive results, this theory might be worth embracing. However, since the progressive mentality has given us the many “joys” of WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the ‘convenient wars’ in Iraq and Afghanistan and that stalwart utopian organization known as the UN, progressives have PROVEN time after time that to be a progressive is to be a world-class LOSER. Bloomberg, you’re it, bunky! LOSER! Stay in NY, where you’re relatively safe. Stay the hell out of AZ. LOSER!

  • JC in SC

    Those corrupt Libs in Washington do NOT think they know better than the citizens of the USA. Their only goal is total control of us. We will become their serfs, serving their needs and none other. We will get only as much as it takes to keep us working for them. When we get older and cannot produce as much, then we are surplus and will be disposed of.

  • eddie47d

    Bloomberg’s point was proven. Arizona has egg on it’s face and you are all rushing in to defend illegal activity. Rather strange that most of you probably get worked up over illegal immigrant activity yet defend this illegal selling of guns. Then you go on to say Bloomberg should stay home and take care of NYC. Well he did for he sent former law enforcement officals to do the investagations. No Tax payer money was used;Costs were bore by Mayors for Stopping Illegal Guns. This is a non-profit organization.Although few guns from Arizona end up in NY 90% of those found in NYC are from other States.So he does have justification in knowing where those guns come from. Another point to be made is that Phoenix has a larger % crime rate than NYC. So maybe you should be more concerned about that city and stop worrying about NYC.You also say they have no business in Arizona. Well then why do you support all the Militia Groups that poured into Arizona and influenced laws down there. That includes The Minutemen and Chris Simcox (KKK affiliate) who is under investagation. He has several spousal abuse charges filed against him. After further review of what happened in Arizona only 2 gunshow sellers violated the laws and COULD have been arrested. This was only to prove how easy it is to snatch up a weapon at a gun show. This is the 7th sting by the Mayors group and 19 of 30 sellers (other states)were willing to sell to someone who wasn’t authorized. Which means a criminal could go into a gunshow( private sellers) and eventually find someone who will sell to them. No questions asked. Some of you like to say criminals will always find guns. Yet if background checks are conducted by these private sellers then that will close down one more means for them.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      eddie:

      Since gun regulations are unconstitutional the term “illegal guns” is a contradiction in terms.

      Phx high crime rate is mostly due to illegals, drug dealer from Meheco. You liberals scream from the roof tops whenever AZ tries to curtail the illegals.

      It brings to mind a Clint Easwood movie, Dirty Harry, I think, where Harry is standing on that dirt-bag kidnapper’s wounded leg in the stadium to find out where the scum put the girl he kidmapped and the scum starts screaming “I have rights!” The liberals in command had Harry’s lunch for that. However, he got results.

      It’s like little Dicky Daley and his crime-ridden city. He prevents honest citizens from arming themselves and the thugs run rampant robbing, raping, stealing. All this while Dicky has ARMED body guards around him 24/7 at taxpayer expense.

      • 45caliber

        All of the gun control people have guns. They just don’t want anyone else to have them.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Like Der Fuhrer, he has guns all around him and the People’s House. He has money from here to breakfast. He just doesn’t want any of us to have any……

          He rides around in a huge limosine getting how many GALLONS TO THE MILE, with a 40 car SUV entorage getting HOW MANY GALLONS TO THE MILE, but wants us to ride around in clown cars.

          • eddie47d

            Can you really say that with a straight face Caliber and old henry too? “They have guns but they don’t want us to have any”. There are now more than 280 million guns in the US and many more are being bought as we speak. That is hardly gun control or taking away 2nd Amendment rights. Roosevelt said “The only thing you have to fear is fear itself”. I bet you are both armed to the teeth yet you are still fearful of everything.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            I wasn’t even fearful of anything when I was in infantry in Vietnam. I certainly aren’t now.

            And if you believe they are NOT interested in taking our guns, then you are very naive or just plain stupid. Schumer and Feinstein both have stated publically that their ultimate goal is to collect ALL guns.

          • JC

            eddie, the point is not whether we have guns now or not.
            We have guns and everybody knows it. The point is that these control freaks are out to disarm us and any movement to disarm us should be met with steadfast opposition.
            After all the very people that want to disarm us are the very reason for the second amendment.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I used to worry about being broken into or robbed at gunpoint by some whackked out dude, but since I got my pistol I don’t worry about THAT anymore. Even though a guy just got broke into just the other day!! Had he come home about fifteen minutes earlier, he might be dead now!!

    • independant thinker

      “A 1997 report by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics on federal firearms offenders said only 1.7 percent of crime guns are acquired at gun shows [ see the figure ].
      According to a report issued by the educational arm of Handgun Control, only two of 48 major city police chiefs said that gun show sales were an important problem in their city.
      There Is No Gun Show Loophole

      The claim that a quarter to half of the vendors at most gun shows are unlicensed dealers is true only if one counts vendors selling items other than guns (e.g., books, clothing, ammunition, knives, holsters and other accessories) as unlicensed dealers.

      Federal law requires that any person “engaged in the business” of selling firearms possess a valid Federal Firearms License. This is true whether one is selling guns for a living at a gun store or at a gun show. Licensed dealers must conduct an NICS check prior to the transfer of any firearm – regardless of where that transfer occurs. The majority of sellers at gun shows are licensed dealers and do conduct checks.

      Individuals who occasionally sell or trade guns from their personal collection need not be licensed nor are they required to conduct a NICS check prior to the sale – whether the sale occurs at a gun show, at their home or out of the trunk of their car. Congress never intended a person who wants to sell a spare hunting rifle to a friend, a father who wishes to give a .22 rifle to his son or a widow who wishes to dispose of her late husband’s firearms through an Internet auction or an ad in the local paper to undertake a NICS background check.

      Thus, the same laws apply to gun shows as to all other gun transactions.”

      • independant thinker

        I should have noted this information came from the NCPA site.

    • Gerrold in CA

      eddie47d – In many state private sales of firearms between individuals requires no paperwork. From state to state there are preresequits on what constitutes a private sale, and what knowledge you must obtain from the buyer pre-transaction. Not too many years ago private sales were legal in California. Arizona’s sellers did not break state law.

      As many have pointed out, criminals will allways find a way to obtain whatever they desire. Drugs have always been illegal but are still rampant on our streets. What are more firearm controls going to do?

    • eddie47d

      Old Henry; Gun regulations or controls are not unconstitutional. Wanting something is not the same as it being true.

      • kate8

        eddie – Why? Because you and other liberals say so?

        Where in the Constitution does it say that government can control our right to bear arms? That would defeat the whole purpose of it.

        The Constitution was written to limit government and keep the power with the people. What’s so hard to understand about that?

        • eddie47d

          The right to own a weapon is in the Constitution but it is not a blank check like so many gun rights advocates think. Gun owners have numerous rights but are the ones demanding looser laws. So you have a little blow back from each side.

          • kate8

            eddie – I’d still like to know by what authority you make this assertion.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            Of course! The constitution says our God given rights to carry shall not be abridged by the government!! You think the non-owners are gonna fight hard enough to protect the rights we have??? Only the ones that have a bet in the game are going to!

          • JC

            The right to armed self defense was and is a natural right before anybody wrote it down on a piece of paper. The fact that they did write it into the Constitution was meant to enshrine what was already a natural law…not to deem it a “privelege”.
            We have the right to survival and self defense from all who would take it away.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            eddie:

            In-fringe: To break or disregard the terms or requirements of, an oath, or law. Violate.

            Pretty straighforward to me, but I am not a liberal trying to enslave all the “unwahsed” for their own good. Hence, all teir machinations to subert the 2nd ammendment.

    • Dan az

      Edduh
      You need to seek help now!that has got to be the dumbest thing I have had to read so far.Please for our sake seek a mental health professional before its to late and please practice celibacy.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dan az,
        He’s the poster child for birth control!!!

  • Fredrick

    Just like a liberal, sticking their stinking noses into other peoples lives. Over and over again. Then to top it all off they are the ones actually doing the heinous stuff that they vociferously accuse others of.

    • 45caliber

      But it is okay if they do it. After all, they have your best interests at heart – right after their own, of course. Just ask one, they will tell you that.

  • Joey Biden

    Free Men will always be Armed or be slaves. Bloomberg is an idiot and George Soros must die.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Joey Biden (that’s a great moniker!)

      Mr. Soros will evenutally die, as will all of us. That is, unless he is the anti-Christ. Read up on him and it will make you wonder.

      • kate8

        Old Henry – Can’t be soon enough.

  • 45caliber

    Since last month’s deadly shooting in Tucson, Ariz., the mayor has stepped up his efforts to promote stricter policies, which he says will help “stop all this carnage.”
    ______________________________________________

    It hasn’t stopped any of it in NYC.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Or Dickeyville. AKA Chi ca go…

  • David in MA

    Bloomberg must think that if he can con AZ into more “gun control’s” it will become another N.Y., ya know? That place where strict gun laws (illegal gun laws) have helped to bring down the death/crime rate where firearms are used….

    Now, look at MA, I believe you will find that the “gun control law’s” there have not reduced crimes with firearms, but they have risen.

    Now, look at history, in every instance where the government has restricted or completely banned the private ownership of firearms that country was enslaved by their government—–check it out and if I am wrong, let me know.

    BTW, if residency is a requirement to purchase a firearm in AZ and those people from N.Y. presented themselves as residents, when they signed the purchase slip, which I bet the slip asks if they are residents, and, if they signed that, They might have committed perjury, and AZ should issue a warrent for their arrest for violation of law.

    • 45caliber

      This is a federal form comissioned by the BATF. If they committed purjury on that form, it is not a state affair. It is a federal one – and the fines and jail terms are a lot bigger than states normally have.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      David in MA,
      Look at Australia. Since they outlawed guns the gun crime has increased greatly!!

    • JC

      If the “investigators” presented themselves as Arizona residents but were not, and actually took guns away with them after signing off as Arizona residents, well that would constitute a felony, would it not?
      And wouldn’t Bloomberg then be a conspirator in this felony?

  • Sharon

    Bloomberg used to be respected for his knowledge of numbers and how to balance them handily, but since he took office of any kind, he is pig headed and very socialist, Liberal leftist in all directions – he is in Obummer’s pocket – I doubt if anyone could get any investigations of Bloomberg for doing illegal out-of-state investigations until the GOP won back the POTUS in 2012! Bloomberg is not doing New York any favors either – he needs to go!

  • JLC

    The prevailing opinion this morning seems to be that Mayor Bloomberg should keep his nose into the affairs of New York City, and out of the affairs of the rest of the country. I can suggest an alternative —— New York City isn’t HOT enough! The problem with that is that Satan doesn’t want the competition.

  • ONTIME

    Bloomberg for the most part is nothing more than a little RINO jerk with a love for fascism, he just cannot keep his nose out of other peoples business and will intrude on your right to self discipline in a heart beat, telling you that he is “just trying to help you.” a code word Deemers are fond of meaning “screw” you.

    His idea of gun law is no better than his rules for salt or “fat” which is mostly what is in his head, Blooie would have you shot for some infraction he would believe was intractable but he would not do it himself directly and he would not steal your car himself but he would make a law to make that act okay for one of his cronies to do so. Bloomberg is not my idea of a man with integrity when he is in cahoots with muslims trying to desecrate the 9/11 site with their unholy mosque, it just proves to all what a whitehaired little weasel he is as he speaks of rights and not morality.

  • http://personallibertydigest gunner689

    It’s not about Gun Control; it’s about Control period. The libs know there is a civil war coming in this country if they keep trying to push Constituionally illegal laws down our throat. They just want us to be disarmed first. Pity the cops that try to enforce illegal confiscation laws.

  • Tinman

    bloomberg is a collaborator with the Nazis(national SOCIALIST) in power, looking for his pieces of silver. These are the types of jewish people that voted for the Anti-Christ and these are the ones we do not need here. Help send them to iran.
    “Remember without a gun, the flag your waving might as well be white”-B. Moore
    DO YOU trust a government that won’t obey it’s OWN LAWS?!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      The only real Jews live in Israel, the rest are just posers.

  • Ridge Runner

    eddie47 you have to be the sorriest no good son of a bitch thjat i have heard of,You are not just a liberal you are just a no good soof abitct. you must be part parrot be cause it is the same thing over and over.You are like these s.o.b.sin the government now the constution doesn’t mean any thing to you it’s just a piece of paper.If you don’tlike our way of life then take your sorry ass and all the others like you and go to hell.(china or russhia.The constution plainly states that the right to bear arms shall not be abrigdedi if you can’t understand that then maybe some kind person could use a big stick to drive it home for you.Any thing that states different is realy legal by the constution unless the constution is changed. just more shit like this obummer care cramed down our throat We the people are going have to Find and elect people like the prime minister in austrila that told these muslims that moved in on them that the country already had rules and laws and if they couldn’t obey them and behave themselfs the they were free to leave. You and your ILK can do the same for america and the people of america.The country has been doing fine until people like you started trying to change our way of life. the country is over 200 years old wich i think is a lot older than me or you so i think you and a lot other air holes need to get back to the original lawsof our country and like it or leave it.

  • Ridge Runner

    i have a lot of typing erors in my comment a bove but i think you and others can get what i mean. I am tired of seeing so many people give their misguided conseptions about how they think the country should be run.The liberals,cmmunists wont to take every ones guns so they can control them with out fearing reprisal.We don’t need gun control we don’t need the a.c.l.u. filing a lot of bull shit law suits we need good honest judges and courts that will treat every one the same i don’t care how much money you have you are intitled to fair and equal treatment. I don’t care if this man that just done the shooting in airizona is a whacko if he under stands what he done then he should be shot just like he shot those people and spend the rest of his time until judgement day in the ground with a marker that say R.I.P. He shouldn’t be given a long prision sentance for the tax payers have to keep him up.To me that is wrong and the prisions wouldn’t be so over crowded and so big. Not every one convicted of a crime is guilty and there is any doubt then that is an excuse to imprision him but when there is no doubt and capital murder is done then they should be given the same as their victim.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Ridge Runner,
      Well said! Typos and all!!!

  • Tj L

    Who the hell does Bloomberg think he is?
    Let me tell you who he is; He’s a person that is a mayor of a city in New York with NO POWERS to do a investigation , he IS NOT a Peace Officer or Police Officer in ANY department with any rank or any one in government that could give or do this investigation.

    HE IS JUST A BUM WITH MONEY , that thinks he can change the world to his liking.

    WAKE UP BLOOMBERG !, Theres more average people in this world than there are rich. Just like the government , if the rich keep pushing there might be more rich people falling to the ranks of average because we all might boycott the goods you petal to the cosumer.

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