Area 51: Black Helicopters Or Little Green Men?

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Two weeks ago, the CIA revealed one of its worse kept government secrets in a 355-page document. It admitted that Area 51, located on a vast track of government land 80 miles northwest of Las Vegas, really does exist.

Never mind that Area 51 has been part of the American lexicon and pop culture for half a century. Only now does our government have the good grace to tell us. Better late than never, right?

Area-51-mapOf course, the CIA’s release, full of redactions, is probably less than 1 percent of the real truth of what is really going on when it comes to the government’s black operations.

We are left to guess at what secrets are hidden at Area 51, a site surrounded by mountains that has immense parts of it buried deep beneath the Nevada desert.

Most certainly it is a cache for super-secret black military projects that we can only hope are not under development for domestic operations.

Are they all human, or is it possible they are of extraterrestrial origin? I don’t see a definitive answer coming out about this in my lifetime.

After all, Washington or those really pulling the puppet-strings in Washington have billed U.S. taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars to build, fund and keep secret what goes on in and around Area 51.

In her book Area 51: An Uncensored History of America’s Top Secret Military Base, Annie Jacobsen delves into the labyrinth that is Area 51. It sits inside the largest government-controlled land parcel in the United States, some 4,700 square miles on Groom Lake, a dry lake bed. It is an area twice the size of Delaware.

The Jacobsen book is based on interviews with dozens of former Area 51 employees, all now old men who went to work there in the 1940s, ’50s and ’60s. They include detailed information from technicians, test pilots and scientists, but only on projects that are now declassified. That means the secrets in the book date back before the 1980s.

According to Jacobsen, the most bizarre and dangerous events outside of actual war have happened at Area 51. The scientists there worked a blueprint for a manned mission to Mars with a 250-foot-tall rocket that was to have been fueled by 2,000 nuclear bombs, which hopefully had controlled detonations. The laundry list for Area 51 includes top-secret spy planes like the U-2 and later the SR-71 (known as the Oxcart when it was first flown secretly by the CIA in the 1960s). Area 51 was also the testing site for nuclear weapons, including the neutron bomb, a thermonuclear device designed to release most of its energy as radiation (a great instrument if your goal is to just kill people and not destroy infrastructure).

As for extraterrestrials in giant test tubes and captured flying saucers, Jacobsen is skeptical. Yet she admits she doesn’t know for sure.

One thing we do know: Our government (or who is really running our government) wouldn’t tell us of extraterrestrial existence unless it served a purpose for the government.

One thing I am certain of is that just because there may not be alien UFOs in the sky doesn’t mean other aircraft are not flying over us right now. I might sleep better at night knowing it was ET flying over me rather than government omnipotence.

My UFO Story

I’ve been plagued by insomnia for years. Such was the case in Spokane, Wash., a decade ago. We lived past the southern edge of Spokane, so there was no light pollution — just a lot of tall pines in an open meadow. It was about 2 a.m. on a warm August night, and I was on our back deck looking at the stars. I felt this rush of air moving toward me. It was definitely not wind. I looked up and something soundless and blacker than coal flew just over the treetops blocking out the stars. The air rushed directly over me for a moment and the black object flew fast and low to the west. I never heard a sound, just an alien gust of air. As quickly as it came, it was gone. I stood up, stunned. Eventually, I went into the master bedroom.

“Angela! Angela! A UFO just flew over our house!”

“Oh you’re crazy,” said my wife. “Come to bed.”

Sleep was the last thing I could manage. I went back out on the deck. I half expected another flying vehicle overhead or (who knew?) maybe a fleet of them. Instead, there was stony silence.

It’s funny how the mind works when it faces a conundrum. By that time in life, I had pretty much accepted that I had forgotten everything I was taught in school. Yet one of the lessons came back to me from many years before when I was taking a philosophy class. (Who says philosophy never comes in handy?)

I thought back to a lecture about a 14th century friar, William of Ockham, who said that the simplest explanation is usually the right one. According to Ockham, when facing a riddle, the answer should be simpler than the riddle, not more complicated.

So I thought about what I knew. I knew something had flown over me and that the air felt like it came from a helicopter. It didn’t look or sound like a helicopter, but that didn’t mean for certain it wasn’t. I also know that as the crow flies, our backyard was 8 miles from Fairchild Air Force Base. I also knew that the U.S. Air Force was using stealth airplanes. Why not stealth helicopters? I had not yet heard of black helicopters, but this thing that flew overhead seemed to be just that.

Who Would You Trust More: ET Or Uncle Sam?

Of course, I could have believed it was aliens outside our solar system scoping out Spokane. But, frankly, I couldn’t see why they would be all that interested.

Ten years later, when my wife and I went to see the movie “Zero Dark Thirty,” I believed Ockham would have agreed with my helicopter conclusion. In the movie, which is the dramatization of the tracking and killing of Osama bin Laden, SEAL Team 6 was transported to the compound aboard top-secret helicopters. A general shows the SEALs the helicopters they will be on and states, “Technically, these don’t exist.”

When it comes to our government (or even who really is our government), there are technically a great many things that don’t exist.

Two weeks ago, we were allowed to know that Area 51 exists 70 years after it was created. But we still don’t have a clue as to what goes on at Area 51, how much black ops funding it receives and, foremost, whether it is friendly or hostile to our liberties and the American way of life.

Right now, it is all we need to know. And nobody responsible for the spending or the ultimate mission that exists in the creation and continuation of Area 51 believes that Americans have no need to know. Maybe that was a national security necessity during the Cold War. But the bastard government — in Washington or a secret cabal — is keeping too many secrets from us, the people. That is not what the framers of the U.S. Constitution envisioned.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • independent thinker

    Some years back I read an article that said all the hoopla concerning Area 51 UFOs, little green or silver men, etc. was just a cover story used as a distraction by the PTB. The article went on to say that if there were ever any alien craft or aliens they had been quietly moved to another base in either Utah or the Iowa-Ohio area.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The government should have opened up the area to tourists in the first place, imagine the billions they would have made with the government approved kiosks and restaurants and jobs till the people got bored and moved on to new entertainment.
      Two scenarios, either there was something alien or there wasn’t something alien. Either way it would have been hidden.

      • KG

        Only problem with that is the fact that Area 51 is in the most hostile desert America has. There is a museum in Las Vegas for the NTS or Nevada test sight. And the NTS is open for tours one day out of the year, but you have to sign a list and be pre-checked. I had a friend who was at the Trinity sight in 1995 for the 50th anniversary of the first atomic explosion.

    • Ceppo

      A few thoughts from a deep thinker. (I don’t get a great deal accomplished, but I think deeply.)
      Don’t worry ’bout the ‘copters, beware of the drones.
      There used to be a bumper sticker, “I love my country, but I fear my government”. Things were calmer then than now. There’s not so much wrong with the gov’t, but the numbskulls running it give cause for concern.
      Visions of bedraggled citizens of a now defunct regime standing on railway platforms waiting for their ride to “camp-meetings” come to mind. Can’t happen here? Area51 or no, some think it could. (Make plans to miss the train.)
      As for aliens, the only ones we need be concerned about are those who trespass our borders. The only non-humans who give us trouble are demons. If you’re born again, just rely on the Lord. “Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.” I John 4:4. (NOW I’m the one who will be called the kook.)
      May God help the USA,
      Li’l Dutch.

    • TexasOlTimer

      When Bill Richardson was Governor of New Mexico, he attempted to find out from the feds what really happened at Roswell back on July 7, 1947. He was frustrated that he was not allowed to know and reported it to the media. Apparently his security clearance didn’t go that high.

      I understand from something I read a number of years ago that one of the Presidents (Bush? Carter?) wanted to know and was told it was on a need to know basis and he didn’t need to know. Would love to know if that actually happened.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Damascus is denying media claims about an unprecedented chemical weapons massacre outside Damascus. The Saudi-owned media network al-Arabiya, citing a Syrian rebel group, is reporting that hundreds of people have been killed in the unconfirmed attack. All of this just days after UN inspectors arrived in Syria to probe earlier reports of chemical killings…http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-un-775/

    • KG

      What about the supposed nuclear bomb Israel dropped on Syria? And to be really scary, supposedly it was dropped by American B-2 bombers stationed in Missouri.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Dear KG, If it becomes not “supposed” then you and I going to discuss the incident. Until then the guessing is the “Witch Hunt”
        speculations and nothing more. And as you could notice I am debating with the FACTS and not with the imaginations and guessing. But I can assure you in one thing: the WW3 coming and my LORD Jesus Christ will participate in it on the behalf of the Israeli Nation.

        “I will gather ALL the nations…and I will enter into judgment with them there on BEHALF of MY PEOPLE and MY HERITAGE ISRAEL (Joel 3:2)

        “Israel is My son, even My firstborn.” (Ex.4:22)

        “…for I am a Father to Israel.” (Jer.31:9)

        KG, Almighty God established His covenant ONLY with ONE NATION. That NATION is Israel in spite of your ill feeling toward Israel and deceptive preaching. Israel is the UNIQUE and ONLY Nation in the WORLD to which God promised the Real Estate in “the land of Canaan” and not of palestine.

        “Then the Lord appeared to Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I will give THIS land [the land of Canaan].’ And there he built an altar to the Lord, who had appeared to him.” (Genesis 12:7)

        “Then He said to him [Abraham], ‘I am the Lord, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans, to give you this land to inherit it.’” (Genesis 15:7)

        “And I will establish My covenant between Me and you [Abraham] and YOUR DESCENDANTS after you in THEIR GENERATIONS, for an EVERLASTING COVENANT, to be God to you and YOUR DESCENDANTS after you. 8 Also I give to you and YOUR descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, ALL the land of Canaan, as an EVERLASTING POSSESSION; and I will be their God.” (Genesis 17:7-8)

        • KG

          How sure are you that they are Jews anyway? I’ve heard some Christian Identity people claim that the “Jews’ in Israel are not Jews but are Khazars from Caucasia that converted to Judaism in the eighth century. And I’ve heard some British claim that they are the lost tribe of Israel. What do they say about property? Possession is nine-tenths of the law.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            KG, this is not the first time you are bringing up the
            Khazars.

            Do you want to know the truth about Khazars, why would not you to do some research.

            I give you a short version about Khazars Jews and their origin. All you want to know is there. I don’t think you need more.

            This is a short account from my Russian encyclopedia I made especially for you. Do not forgive to send me your THANKS. (Do not confuse with the Latin insults)

            1) Khazars were the members of the Turkic-speaking tribes that in the late 6th century AD established
            a major empire covering the southeastern section of the modern European Russia (original located in the northern Caucasus and the part of the western Turkic empire in Turkistan). After 737 established their capital at Itil (located near the mouth of the Volga River) and accepted the Caucasus Mountains as their southern border.

            2) Khazars were engaged in a numeros of wars with the Arab empire.

            3) Khazars had the great effect of PERMANENTLY blocking Arab expansion northward INTO eastern Europe.

            4) The most striking characteristic of the Khazars was the apparent ADOPTION of Judaism by the khagan and the greater part of the ruling class in about 740. The
            circumstances of the conversion REMAIN OBSCURE, the depth of their adoption of Judaism difficult to assess; but the fact itself is UNDISPUTED and is a part Eurasian history. But religious tolerance was practiced in the Khazar empire, including paganism.

            5) The prominence and influence of the Khazar state was reflected in its close relations with the Byzantine emperors: Justinian II (704) and Constantine V (732) each had a Khazar wife.

            6) Khazar’s power was crushed by Svyatoslav, the ruler of Kiev (Russian), who launched a campaign against the Khazars in the 965.

            As you can see, the Khazars have NOTHING to see with the Biblical Jews. They aren’t Jews. They were Khazars who converted to Judaism (religion) as we have Arabs
            converted into Christianity, or Americans into Buddhism, or Liberals into Satanism.

            KG, you know the Scripture and you know that Jewishness does not matter for the salvation. Old Testament was given to Israelites, a descendants of Jacob aka Israel:
            “And God said to him, ‘Your name is Jacob; your name SHALL NOT BE CALLED Jacob anymore, but ISRAEL SHALL BE YOUR NAME.’” (Genesis 35:10)

            The GOOD news is that the New Testament is given to all – Jews and gentiles.

            Well, that’s it about Khazars. I hope you will not drag me into unnecessary demagoguery.

            Alondra, Proud Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot

            P.S. Here is a link to the Khazar Khaganate
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Varangian_routes.png
            Also you may read about the Khazar’s capital Itil:
            http://wikimapia.org/9996093/Itil-disappeared-in-the-capital-of-the-Khazar-Kaganate-Mid-VIII-X-centuries
            And http://www.itil.pl/?l=en

  • KG

    I have an inside source that told me Area 51 and UFO’s were a ‘fortunate circumstance’ for America’s cold war effort. It was known that in central Russia, there is a general belief in extraterrestrial beings that comes from old folk tales – kinda like America’s tales of ‘Sleepy Hollow’ with the pumpkin headed horseman. The Roswell incident taught the Army Air corps (later the US Air Force) that telling the truth was not necessarily a bad thing. They were completely truthful in their explanations, but the public at the time were experiencing the first jitters of the Cold War, as well as the recent pop culture UFO craze. Rather than explaining strange looking aircraft, like the SR71 or even the Aurora aircraft, just say they were probably UFO’s. However, right now at Area 51 a new death ray is being developed to kill Canadians who think they are Americans. (Watch out, Mr. Oscar “Meyers”)

    • FreedomFighter

      Yes KG it was a great thing for hiding the CIA high altitude spy apparatus, only some of the craft were and are of unknown origin.
      Fallen Angles
      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • KG

        So, do you believe in the ‘wheel angels’ that actually created modern machines? I’ve heard of some alchemists who tried to decipher the Enocian Angel Language. Supposedly, thats where the power of the unpronounceable tetragramon YHWH comes from.

    • John Myers

      Dear KG,
      I am almost certain that my U.S. passport will save me from the “death ray.” But you may want to research what they are developing for people whose compulsion is to be the cleverest guy in any conversation
      Sincerely,
      John Myers

      • KG

        If that’s the case, Mr Meyers, then I’m doomed to that terrible fate! Go Oilers! Eh?!

        • John Myers

          Dear KG,
          If you mean the Oilers of the NHL you have made another uninformed assumption. The team in Calgary is the Flames, and the fans in this city hate the “Edmonton” Oilers. It is amazing how you leap to conclusions that are almost always wrong.
          Sincerely,
          John Myers

          • KG

            Thanks Mr Meyers, It seems as though your more human than I thought. Those Canadians all look alike to me anyway! G-d Bless ya!

    • Charlie

      Well,,, how about that? the agent provocateur has inside info… We’ve got info inside The Bible that tells us , King Jesus Christ is a “Space Traveler” and can travel at the speed of “Thought” ,,, is that faster than a SR71???… Check out the Book of Obadiah ,,, it’s about to happen … Notice , area 51 is close to the land of fruits and nuts……………………

  • Larry

    So now we know as much about Area 51 as we do about our President?

  • Jacob Theodore

    Oh, Jeez! I’ve had co-workers who worked there. Nobody pretends Area 51 doesn’t exist, they just refuse to talk about it at all. That doesn’t mean anyone denies it exists. They are simply refusing to confirm or deny ANYTHING about the place. Cripes, you can look at the place on Google Earth. If you want to do something really cool, go visit the Nevada National Test Site where over 1200 nukes were set off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_National_Security_Site I got to actually walk around the rim of a nuclear crater, the Sedan Crater, also on Google Earth. The place is run by the Dept of Energy and the tour is free. The photo in the following link is of the Sedan Crater.
    http://nevadamag.blogspot.com/2011/09/touring-nevada-test-site.html

    You have arrange it in advance, and go through a background check, but it’s worth the effort.I think it’s Area 28, of some such.

    Area 51 is just an industrial area with people developing hardware that happens to often be classified. That happens all over this country.

    http://nevadamag.blogspot.com/2011/09/touring-nevada-test-site.html

  • nc

    Mr. Myers, do you have a favorite President in the last 70 years (?) that Area 51 has existed? Or several favorites? Was there anything wrong about those Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, not telling the American people all about Area 51? EVEN RONNIE RED CHEECKS????
    I know you are Canadian, but have you ever heard of the State Secrets Privilege where by ALL American Presidents have protected secrets of the government, even those created during the administration of PAST PRESIDENTS!
    Like, not one of the Presidents in the last 70 years has exposed any secrets of Area 51! HOW “TRANSPARENT” HAVE THEY ALL BEEN???
    The States Secrets Privilege was first raised by our government to keep out certain “state secrets” in a trial back in the late 1700s.
    The founding fathers, many still alive at that time, must have thought there was certain things that the general population did not need to know! The practice has certainly not brought us to our knees! We’re still number one in the world!
    To tell the truth, I feel much safer knowing that John Myers, Ben Crystal, Wayne Root, and Bob Livingston, et al, don’t know ANY of our State Secrets!

    • S.C.Murf

      That’s right nc still number one in the world, in immorality, murders, lies, abortions etc., etc., makes you feel proud doesn’t it!!!!

      up the hill
      airborne

      • nc

        Smurf, I can’t think of another country I am prouder of! WARTS AND ALL!
        It’s better than the Garden of Eden where the entire population became seriously sinful and corrupted!
        Where do you see yourself living that would make you prouder
        Somebody kills somebody in Washington State and I’m supposed to catch the next boat to a country where murder does not exist??
        Some woman gets an abortion because a doctors tells her she will die if she doesn’t. She lives to care for her other two children. Why would that make me hate my country??? It’s not against our Constitution???

        • Bill

          NC,
          So how do you explain that you support a political agenda that does not abide by the constitution and wants to eliminate it?

          • nc

            Bill, would you please list the cases that say Obama’s political agenda wants to eliminate the Constitution! That appears to me , and I am sure many others, to be a personal opinion of yours as to what the Constitution “says” TO YOU!
            You need to visit a law library and read the cases where liberals, moderates, conservatives and ultra conservatives have gone before the Supreme Court arguing that THEIR interpretation is the only one that “abides” by the language of the Constitution ONLY to be told by the Court that they were WRONG!! There are hundreds of such cases and I bet the Court never once called old Bill to see if he approved! Right???? Let me guess whose opinion became the law of the land. Old Bill’s or theirs?
            The Constitution gives you a right to your opinion but NOT a guarantee that it will always “abide” by the Constitution!

          • speedle

            No other administration in history has had the unbridled support of the mainstream media as does Obama. And the reason is that he is sort of a black man, and the first of that sort to occupy the office. So what you may say? Well here is what.

            Obama has consistently pushed the envelope on executive authority from giving appointed sycophants extraordinary power (such as IRS scandals) to edicts countermanding implementation of laws passed by congress (and much more). He feels empowered to do these things because the media does not come down on him or support the politicos who would. Think of 1973 and Watergate and compare that to the roles played by the current day media.

            If Nixon had tried to do half of the things that this moron of a POTUS has done he would have been tarred and feathered by the media. All this crap that Obama gets away with is because the progressive impotent mind completely controlled by the pop culture and the mainstream media.

          • NC

            Speedle, if you believe what you read here the MSM has ALWAYS been ” more supportive” of liberal administrations even when the President has been white so the skin color of the liberal has not be a factor!
            The media is made up of college trained people for the most part! Both the conservative media types like over at faux noise and Liberals at MSNBC. RIGHT?? IF IT’S OK FOR A COLLEGE TRAINED JOURNALIST TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF CONSERVATIVE CAUSES WHY IS IT WRONG FOR COLLEGE TRAINED JOURNALIST TO BE SUPPORIVE OF LIBERAL CAUSES??
            IF THERE ARE MORE WHO SUPPORT LIBERAL CAUSES THEN THAT IS JUST THE TOUGH LUCK OF THE CONSERVATIVE VIEW! THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MORE LIBERAL JOURNALIST SPEAKING TO MORE PEOPLE IS WHAT MAKES IT MORE MAINMSTREAM THAN THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE! AND IT’S ALL CONSTITUTIONAL SO THE CONSERVATIVES NEED TO QUIT THEIR COMPLAINING AND COME UP WITH POLICIES THAT MORE AMERICANS CAN LIVE WITH!
            AS JINDAL SAID! STOP TAKING “IGNORANT POSITIONS””!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You must be a gem to live with, NutCase — Always Shouting. Do you think your yelling somehow makes your statements less ignorant?

          • speedle

            NC, as usual the point of this has breezed right over your pointy head. “Journalism” is the sacred icon that the MSM hides behind and uses as a shield against potential government intrusion into the 1st amendment. “Journalism” by definition is the exposure of unbiased facts.

            Are we getting even a little warm here NC?

            The MSM has now effectively dropped all pretense at unbiased reporting of the news in favor of always erring on the side of this administration. Now whether or not a college trained shavetail is conservative or liberal has nothing to do with the way the news is reported or the slant given same by the producers and editors of that news outlet. Get it now NC????

            As an aside, the reason that college students come out of journalism school with a pre-existing bias toward progressives is because 90% of the college professors (especially in journalism) are children of the acid era (60’s). In fact, the entirety of academia is by and large infected with statist/progressive thinking. That is why the bozo was elected in the first place. Isn’t it funny that for the most part when people grow older and have more life experiences they tend to become more conservative politically? Let’s see, more knowledge and experience = conservative philosophy. Less knowledge and little experience = progressive philosophy. That about covers it.

          • NC

            SPEEDLE,SORRY BUT I DONT FEEL THE HEAT!
            “”JOURNALISM” BY DEFINITION IS THE EXPOSURE OF UNBIASED FACTS.” YOUR WORDS.
            LIKE OVER AT FOX NEWS? LIKE HERE AT PLD? LIKE WHERE DO YOU GET TOTALLY UNBIASED POLITICAL JOURNALISM THAT DOES NOT REFLECT A POLITICAL STANCE???
            CAN A JOURNALIST NOT HAVE A POLITICAL AGENDA? MOST OF OUR GREATEST JOURNALIST HAD VERY STRONG OPINIONS ON A VARITY OF ISSUES! SLAVERY, WAR, WELFARE, MONETARY POLICY AND EVEN CUBAN CIGARS AND GOOD LIQUOR!!
            AGAIN I ASK!! WHY MUST A JOURNALIST BE A CONSERVATIVE?
            ALSO. WHAT HAS THE MSM DONE TO THE NON Obama PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVEN’T DONE TO THEMSELVES????
            IT WASN’T THE MSM THAT CALLED MITTENS A “LIAR”! iT WAS NEWT GINGRICH!
            IT WASN’T THE MSM THAT CALLED MIITEN THE WORST REPUBLICAN IN THE COUNTRY! iT WAS RICK SANTORUM!
            IT WASN’T THE MSM THAT SAID MITTENS WAS NOT FIT TO BE PRESIDENT! IT WAS MICHELE BACHMANN!
            THE DEMOCRATS DON’T NEED THE MSM AS LONG AS THE REPUGNUTS TELL AMERICA THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR OWN CANDIDATES!
            BTW: IF THE REPUGUTS KEEP MAKING IT HARDER FOR OLD FOLKS TO VOTE AND HURTING THEIR PENIONS BY SHUTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OR AFFECTING THE MARKET WITH THIER THREATS TO SHUT IT DOWN AND MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE GRAND KIDS TO GO COLLEGE AND TO VOTE YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THOSE OLD FOLKS YOU SAY GET CONSERVATIVE AS THE GET OLDDER GET VERY LIBERAL ALL AT ONCE AND AIN’T NO ID BADGE GOING TO KEEP THEM FROM THE POLLS TO SAVE THEIR PENSIONS!
            IT’S WHAT JINDAL CALLED “IGNORANT POSITIONS” BY THE REPUGNUTS THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE 2016 ANOTHER 2012.

          • speedle

            “NEWS” man “NEWS”. Do you not understand the difference between opinion programs and newscasts? Are you daft? A news reporting journalist “doesn’t have to be conservative”. He has to be “honest” and “unbiased” in reporting “NEWS” to the public. The “NEWS” must not contain spin and must not be selectively presented (As in lets report on the racially charged Martin/Zimmerman issue but soft peddle the black thug shooting of the white man).

            Seriously NC, is this too hard for you to grasp? Because if it truly is it explains the sheeple mentality of a good percentage of the American population.

          • Bill

            NC,
            I don’t need a weathervane to see which way the wind is blowing.
            You are just pushing a political agenda

          • momo

            HR347, signed by Obama outlawing your right to protest on government property.
            Renewing the patriot act that effectively does away with the 4th amendment.
            Unbridled spying by the NSA on electronic communications within the borders of the U.S. Though to be fair this was probably going on long before Obama came to office.
            Signing the NDAA of 2012 of which sections 1012 and 1022 authorize indefinite military detention of American citizens.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Oh please. Why eliminate the Constitution when he can just walk all over it?
            Like when he rammed Forced Healthcare Insurance down our throats.
            Like when he ignored the Constitution and attacked Libya, a country which had in no way attacked the US.
            Even some of his own party members wanted to impeach him over that one.
            Like his current sabre-rattling with Syria.
            If you had any brains at all, NutCase, you would know that the Supreme Court is a branch of the Federal Government and very unlikely to go contrary to the wishes of the rest of their gang. Nowhere in the Constitution was the Supreme Court given the right to be the Final Arbiters of the Constitution. They just took that right, like Liberal Progressive just take other peoples’ money.
            The Anti-Federalists were right, but alas, even back in the Revolutionary days, the majority of the population was as ignorant as NutCase:
            http://mises.org/daily/2335

          • NC

            Aboriginal, you abuse the privilege of being dumb! If we had your idea of a “perfect American with no control over business” we would have nothing but whore houses and saloons selling liquor to minors!! BECAUSE WHERE DOES THE GOVERNMENT GET THE RIGHT TO STOP THEM! THE GOVERNMENT gets the right from the people because THEY don’t want whore houses on every corner and saloons selling liquor to minors REGARDLESS O HOW MANY JOBS THEY CREATE OR HOW
            MANY MORE “WEALTHY PEOPLE” THEY CREATE!
            BTW, THE ANTI- FEDERALIST LOST AND WE MADE IT TO NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD AND MISES HAS GONE OVER WITH THE AMEWRICAN PEOPLE LIKE A FART IN A DIVER’S HELMET!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You abuse the idea of being human, NutCase. We have whore houses now, and we have minors doing drugs, Ignoramus. And because of idiots LIKE YOU, NutCase, those drug businesses are run by the worst segment of Society who have a vested interest in pushing those drugs on our kids because the money is so big as a result of their illegality. Idiots like you, NutCase, who didn’t learn from the Prohibition of liquor that Government controls just don’t work.
            The anti-federalists lost, NutCase, because so many people are ignoramuses like yourself, who can’t figure out that the same evil people, that you feel you need protection from, gravitate to Leadership positions. And because you are so ignorant, they can tell you sweet sounding lies that never work but they know that you’re too ignorant to learn by experience.
            You wear a Diver’s Helmet now, NutCase? Did you lose your tin-foil hat?

        • Vis Fac

          Still using pejoratives I see FYI there is no such word as prouder. That word is used by the inarticulately challenged indolent because they don’t want to say “more proud” to borrow the phrase “libtard schools” have excepted it’s usage as they tried with “ebonics”. We all know the results an illiterate population dependent on everyone and everything.

          It’s so gratifying to know you received a “quality” education in that liberal one dimensional indoctrination camp you attended paid for by working people that enables you to enjoy the fruits (such as they are) of our labor. Are you basking in the luxury ODUMBO promised?

          You’re a piece of work all right a shinning example of liberalism at its best.

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
          to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

          A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Force, the first thing I learned in blogging is that when the only response you get is a correction of your spelling or the grammar you have won that argument!! NEXT!!!!!

          • Vis Fac

            Spelling grammar and diction errors are indicative of the entire content of the post. Being inane is not against the constitution usurpation is. FYI only one resident in the Garden of Eden was sinful. The other was unaware. Your analogy is flawed NEXT!!

            America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our liberty, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Lincoln was a smooth-talking railroad Lawyer. He should know all about destroying America because he participated in it.
            http://www.amazon.com/The-Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Unnecessary/dp/0761526463/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377717488&sr=8-1&keywords=the+real+lincoln

          • Robert Messmer

            Force sorry but I don’t see the pejorative that you refer to unless you mean “better than …where entire population became sinful..” “Prouder” sits better with eye, ear, and mouth than “funner” which I have heard on national news programs. The “libtard schools” have ACCEPTED not as you said EXCEPTED. NC might climb a rope by shinning his way up but I believe you were trying to say that he is a shining example.

          • Vis Fac

            I miss interpreted your affectionate usage of WARTS and ALL” as a pejorative. Mia Culpa. English is not my native tongue and I took special care to learn the proper way to speak and write it. Therefore I have a very hard time accepting grammatical errors and misspellings. I take the time to proof my posts prior to posting making sure I am as correct as possible. I liken any errata as to hearing fingernails screeching along a chalkboard. so I get a little passionate in the misuse of English maybe a bit too critical. I am just as passionate in the defense of the country I had adopted. Sadly it is merely a shell of what it once was when I first arrived. .

            America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our liberties, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Robert Messmer

            LOL ok it was NC not me that used “Warts and All” and no NC was simply saying that the US is not perfect–which is true. I should have known that English in not your native tongue since you do use it most correctly. Thanks to NEA and the US Department of Education most Americans can not. Yes I agree that it is merely a shell of what it once was.

          • Karolyn

            English was my mother’s first language, but because she had to quit school after 8th grade, she educated herself; and was very particular about English. I always remember her sitting and watching TV saying: ‘Did you hear that? And they’re supposed to be educated people.” referring to their misuse of the English language. As a result, I have always been proficient in its use.

          • Vis Fac

            I am fluent in four languages proficient in three others. English is not my native tongue. My mother was also a strict linguist was fluent in four languages as well English was her fourth language to master. When I made mistakes in other languages I was given the switch and as a result have mastered those I speak. My second daughter minored in English and as I posted earlier acceptance is determined by usage over a period of time.

            I can relate to your mother’s derisions regarding grammar and diction as our whole family cringes when improper English is written or spoken.

            America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our liberties, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Karolyn

            I’ve just been searching and found information that “prouder” is a word according to several sites. There is controversy concerning its use; however it does appear to be a word.

            http://www.thefreedictionary.com/prouder

          • Vis Fac

            Karolyn:

            The more any word is used the more acceptable it becomes and is then entered into the dictionary. The word ain’t wasn’t acceptable either until its usage became banal and was added.

            Prouder is one of those words that make it to lesser used dictionaries. If you wish to find a proper word look to Websters dictionary Online dictionaries like Wikipedia accepts contributions from anyone too Look at Websters online dictionary and prouder is not there

            America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our liberties, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
            to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

            A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • nc

            Karolyn, thanks for the help! I was writing to a smurf and I didn’t want to get too fancy and lose contact!

        • perry

          Say man I live in Washington state.The cops kill more people than any one else.

        • momo

          “It’s better than the Garden of Eden where the entire population became seriously sinful and corrupted!”
          Obviously you have never been to Washington, D.C.

      • Robert Messmer

        You may correct me if I am wrong but as to murders I believe we only come in at #3. And according to what I read with the removal of 4 cities (Detroit, Chicago, DC and sorry can’t remember) we would drop to 4th from the bottom. As to immorality and lies, that would be really subjective–eye of beholder type of thing–and not subject to quantification. Abortions would only count if every country maintains the same records we do but since that is between the lady, her doctor, and their gods that is not something I concern myself with. Etc., etc, don’t know how to respond to a nil statement.

    • John Myers

      Dear nc,
      You write, “I know you are Canadian…”
      You “know” no such thing. I’ve had the privilege to write for PLD for over four years. For over four years I have been telling critics like you that I am an American citizen. If you can’t remember this nc, perhaps you can scribble it on your hand.
      Sincerely,
      John Myers

      • nc

        Mr. Myers, I stand corrected as to your citizenship! That really changes the content of your article! Now, about those question I asked you!

        • Vis Fac

          And nothing changers the fact you are a moron. I have a question for you. Did your parents have any living offspring?

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
          to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

          A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

        • John Myers

          Dear nc,
          You write: “do you have a favorite President(?) sic) in the 70 years Area 51 has existed.”
          Yes, President Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was the president that warned of the military-industrial complex.
          Sincerely,
          John Myers

          • nc

            Mr. Myers , do you think maybe Old Ike knew some State Secrets he didn’t tell you while he served and until his death??? No?? If he did know some did that make him bad? Did it make the other Presidents bad for not ratting on Area 51?? How transparent is transparent???
            I liked Ike because he liked labors right to organize! Or at least he said he did!! Even Ronnie had that saving grace!!

      • JeffH

        It’s the Alzheimer’s John. Just one of nc’s many fatal flaws!

    • spacegasp

      The founding fathers would not have wanted the public to know the true purpose of the Revolution.

    • f

      Fallen Angles
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuGzJVKtW6g
      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • S.C.Murf

        Yes the fallen angels brought with them many powers some of which were the ability to project lights and allusions in the sky. Look up the 2 lost books of the bible, Enoch and the other I’m not sure of. These talk about their names and their powers. People do not under estimate the power of satan and his demon’s, very powerful.

        up the hill
        airborne

        • Robert Messmer

          There are literally dozens of “lost” books. Actually not so much lost as rejected by a council back in early AD where it was decided which books would and would not be included in the officially approved “Gospel”. The “Bible” is not the word of God but only man’s interpretation of what he thinks God’s words are.

      • KG

        Those guys ripped off Motley Crue!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      They goes NutCase again, making it a Republican/Democrat thing, when in fact it is a Big Government thing.
      What are we number one in, NutCase? Certainly not wealth per citizen:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

      • nc

        AboriGinal, you have announced your fatal flaw! EVERYTHING to you is “wealth per citizen”! WEALTH DIDN’T BUILD THIS COUNTRY! WEALTH DIDN’T PICK THE COTTON, BUILD THE CARS, CUT AND PAVE THE ROADS OR FIGHT OUR BATTLES! The less wealthy did that because it can’t be done from the backseat of a limo!
        Mises might tell you how a man can acquire wealth but he can’t tell you what a man is worth!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You have revealed your fatal flaw, NutCase — extreme ignorance. Wealth is what feeds, clothes, and shelters our citizens. Without it, we would have to endure even more whining from you thieving Socialists.

          • NC

            ABORIGINAL, WHERE DO THOSE BELOW THE LEVEL OF ” WEALTH” RANK IN A “FREE” SOCIETY? SECOND TIER?? SCRAPS WHO ASK TOO MUCH FOR THEIR LABOR THAT BECOMES A DRAIN ON THE “WEALTH” THAT IS DOING IT ALL??? REALLY??? HOW DOES LABOR GET IT’S SHARE WHEN “WEALTH” WON’T GIVE IN? ARE THE LABORERS INTITLED TO A SHARE OR JUST AN ALLOWANCE SET BY WEALTH??

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase, in a Free Society anybody who has ambition can succeed. The only poor people are those who choose to be poor by lack of initiative.
            Yes, NutCase, you probably wouldn’t do well in a Free Society because it takes some brains and work to be successful in a Free Society — something you Unionists and Government employees lack.
            Why are you always shouting, you brainless moron?

      • KG

        According to that wikipedia article one country with the highest GDP is Norway. They have a Union Participation rate of almost 26%. Now, explain to us why Unions are so bad?

        http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2006/01/art3full.pdf

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Do we have to go over this repeatedly, KGB? Norway is but one of the many semi-Socialist countries in Europe — mostly failures. Norway has huge energy earnings which help to buoy their economy. And Norway is not as socialistic as you might think:
          http://www.heritage.org/index/country/norway
          Their property rights, their Freedom from corruption, and their business Freedom are all higher than in the US:
          http://www.heritage.org/index/country/unitedstates

      • Robert Messmer

        We are number one in government requests to Facebook for information that is none of the governments business.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      NutCase asks — “Was there anything wrong about those Presidents, both Democrats and Republicans, not telling the American people all about Area 51?”.
      Of course there is. Which sane employer would hire employees to do work that is unknown to the employer on the employer’s dime?
      “National Security” is for the security of the Leaders, not for the security of the people. Never has been for the people. Never will be.

      NutCase asks — “The founding fathers, many still alive at that time, must have thought there was certain things that the general population did not need to know!”.
      Of course they did, because most of them were typical Leaders aspiring for positions of Power and Perks. They certainly couldn’t be honest to the citizens or there never would have been a Federal Government (and that would have been a good thing):
      http://mises.org/daily/2335

      • KG

        quote: Which sane employer would hire employees to do work that is unknown to the employer on the employer’s dime?

        Janitors and Maintenance staff.

        But they don’t count in your Von Misies perfect world of rich elites enjoying themselves at the working classes expense.

        • Robert Messmer

          Nonsense every employer knows what Janitors and Maintenance staff does. You must not understand that the working classes aren’t doing the work for free, they are being paid for their labor.

  • red neck

    The liberal loons, nc and kg totally missed the content of this article.
    However I’m not surprised that they did, they only see what they are told to see!

    • nc

      Red neck, what is the “content” of Mr. Myer’s article? The bright lights of Times Square or the “darkness” surrounding Area 51?
      Have you fed the hogs??

      • red neck

        I feed “the hogs” daily with my undeserved donations called taxes.
        My take on this article is quit clear to ask yourself “do you trust the government”?… Your take on the article is on more of the lines of “Oh God there really are UFO’s”….

        • nc

          red neck, I never mentioned UFOs or aliens in my post to Mr Myers! I don’t believe in them and I would hope that Mr. Myers, being an adult, would not believe in them either! You, I am not so sure of!!!
          My point was that under the States Secrets Privilege All Presidents since it was created have refrained from disclosing what has gone on there and I don’t know if that is a bad thing! Are we and our enemies entitled to know everything the government knows? If they told us OUR enemies would know it also before you finished feeding the hogs!!! Might get some innocent people needlessly killed! That was my point! Not some UFO I didn’t mention! Are you sure you fed the hogs???

  • FreedomFighter

    I am convinced of the connection between UFO’s and Area 51, though I’m pretty sure as others these operations have moved to better facilities.

    My conviction on the existence of craft from unknown origin “flying saucers” is due the convincing nature of my source — MOM. Yes Mom, she worked for the government in Washington DC during the 50s and personally witnessed the UFO flap, seeing for herself the UFOs flying over DC, plainly visible, they thought it was an invasion.
    The then President of the United States admits on camera the existence of these craft due to the panic. So do we believe the spinmasters of today whom claim they don’t exist or do we go with the words of our own president and Mom?

    UFOs In Washington D.C – 61 years agohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hObI12DD3-Y
    Laus DeoSemper Fi

    • Vis Fac

      FF UFO’s do exist but are they of extra terrestrial origin; who knows. The term UFO (unidentified flying object) is used when the observer cannot identify said flying object thus the term unidentified.

      I am reasonably sure that what we see that is unidentified are terrestrial objects secretly flown at night away from prying eyes and long range cameras. The public was unaware of the U-2 SR-71 Stealth Fighter Stealth Bomber until it was in the government’s interests or when operational.

      Now ET aircraft are a different animal. Do I believe they exist? I think so. does the government use their technology? Possibly. As I believe in God almighty I also believe that we are not the only creatures in God’s image that exist in the universe. Perhaps one day we will discover another world diametrically different than we then realize we were the beta metaphorical test and screwed up big time.

      The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

      A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
      to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

      A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est

      Semper-Fi

      • nc

        FORCE, if there are creatures in the Universe “in God’s image” is that image more like Charles Atlas , ET or WHOOPIE GOLDBERG?
        All are possibilities I guess! NO?? What eliminates any one of them??

        • Vis Fac

          Semantics God created man in his image not spitting image so use your imagination. Does ET look like anyone you know or just like you?

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
          to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

          A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

          • nc

            fORCE, If you use Your imagination what does God (?)look like(?) You have told us man is not the “spitting image” of God although I don’t know where you got that information?? Force logic??? Rewriting the Bible????
            Could it be the writer was just trying to make the mortals feel a closeness to their God? by telling them they looked like God(?) himself! That would be a “biggie” if it were true! Would that not also include Whoopie Goldberg, one of God’s(?) children????

      • Robert Messmer

        Actually the public was unaware of the U2 until after the Soviets shot one down. Even then our government initially lied by first denying the existence of the U2, then that if it existed the Soviets could not possibly have shot it down. Those lies stopped when the Soviets had both the plane and pilot on live television. Then the story became it was a weather plane that had inadvertently “strayed” into Soviet air space.

        • Vis Fac

          Actually some of us were especially form those who camped out and took photographs and reported seeing strange objects in the sky The government had to ADMIT the use over Russia when Powers was shot down, not that they didn’t exist.

          America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our liberties, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.– Abraham Lincoln

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
          to eat for lunch with the well armed lamb contesting the vote. Liberty comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.”

          A democratic government that respects no limits on its power is a ticking time bomb, waiting to destroy the rights it was created to protect.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

  • dan

    Like NASA…Area 51 is just a facade,now. The real stuff is buried a bit NW . They even have a tunnel to get there….not that there aren’t a few levels (21?)
    UNDER Area 51.
    Do you suppose NSA now knows ?

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    So much for Government working for the people.
    Once you realize that Government is just the biggest Gang in the land, then everything they do becomes clearer.
    How often, for instance, do you really get a chance to elect somebody who hasn’t been picked by the establishment? It’s a joke and the joke is on us.

    As Clifford Thies says — “To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force. Some governments, over time, evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed. In some instances, this evolution involved one or more “revolutions” in which those who were governed were able to better establish the rule of law”.
    http://mises.org/daily/3427
    If you do enough reading and thinking you will awaken to that realization.

    Psychopathically-oriented people are typically the ones who gravitate to the top. And they have the mental tools to push most of the good people to the side in their climbs to the top:
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

    Throughout the history of the world, rulers have been parasites on the productive citizens. Governments don’t produce, they consume.
    When our country was composed of colonies, the Privileged Class ruled over the rest. And those Privileged Leaders were only stifled by the Revolution. They did not disappear forever. After many decades of struggle they have once again fulfilled their natural role of domination over the citizens. Read this book (4 volumes) to learn more:
    http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    So much for Government working for the people.
    Once you realize that Government is just the biggest Gang in the land, then everything they do becomes clearer.
    How often, for instance, do you really get a chance to elect somebody who hasn’t been picked by the establishment? It’s a joke and the joke is on us.

    As Clifford Thies says — “To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force. Some governments, over time, evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed. In some instances, this evolution involved one or more “revolutions” in which those who were governed were able to better establish the rule of law”.
    http://mises.org/daily/3427
    If you do enough reading and thinking you will awaken to that realization.

    Psychopathically-oriented people are typically the ones who gravitate to the top. And they have the mental tools to push most of the good people to the side in their climbs to the top:
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

    Throughout the history of the world, rulers have been parasites on the productive citizens. Governments don’t produce, they consume.
    When our country was composed of colonies, the Privileged Class ruled over the rest. And those Privileged Leaders were only stifled by the Revolution. They did not disappear forever. After many decades of struggle they have once again fulfilled their natural role of domination over the citizens. Read this book (4 volumes) to learn more:
    http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
    http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Bam, John!. A home run. Thanks.

  • TexasOlTimer

    Mr. Myers,

    Back on April 24, 1964, I lived in Socorro, NM, with my husband who was attending NMIMT (now New Mexico Tech) and had a new baby born two months earlier.

    I saw the site where the “UFO” landed on Sunday after policeman Lonnie Zamora saw the “UFO” on Saturday evening. Because the acting police chief (Polo Pineda) also worked for the First State Bank, where I worked, I had coffee with him on Monday morning during our break along with a young teller and the secretary to the President of the bank (also the Mayor of Socorro).

    After seeing the “UFO,” Lonnie Zamora went to confessional and then talked to Polo telling him what he had seen. That Monday morning Polo was furious because the “guys in the black suits and sunglasses” had told him to keep quiet about this. He said, “No one tells me how to run my town!” and proceeded to tell us exactly what Lonnie had told him. Later that day, a couple of “those guys” in the suits came into the bank complete with sunglasses indoors!

    The following year sometime in the early summer there was an air show in El Paso, TX, where apparently a LEM had been displayed and had crashed. There was a photo of either another or that one before the crash. At any rate, it was on the front page of the Midland (TX) Reporter-Telegram and I saw the photo as I walked by the couch where it was laying. I called to my husband – “there’s a picture of the UFO that Lonnie Zamora saw on the front page of the paper!” The description Polo had told us that Monday morning matched it so well.

    Over the years I’ve tried numerous times to find out from the government and UFO researchers if this might be the case. The descriptions that were originally give of the UFO description and the actual site are very far from what really happened at the time.

    I do know that my memory today matches what I saw at the time as I wrote my parents about it the following week. I found the letter among her affects after she passed away.

    Several years ago, I contacted a UFO research group about this and a few months later there was an “official announcement” by the government that it indeed was a LEM. Now I’m left to wonder… was it really a LEM as I’ve always believed or…. was it really a UFO and the government is using my belief as an excuse and cover-up? I guess I’ll never know.

    • John Myers

      Dear Texas,
      A wonderful and intriguing story. Thank you for sharing.
      Best,
      John Myers

  • captj@sea

    Hang on a minute, let me put on my tin foil hat. O.K. – first of all, do you really think that, if we sent a manned expedition to some inhabited planet far,far away, we would then spend over half a century hanging around and NOT communicating with the locals? I don’t think so. Also, if some alien beings (presumably highly advanced technologically) are hanging around, why haven’t they been able to keep us from spotting them?
    I think the whole UFO thing is yet another manifestation of Man’s urge to believe in something beyond himself.

    • red neck

      Joe Biden is proof of life on other solar systems however the intellectual level hasn’t quit yet evolved to that much more than a jelly-fish….

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      To imagine that in the vast universe we are the only life forms is reaching to the extreme. Since life forms like our own are dependent on the energy from the sun, and the nearest star to us is 4.24 light years away, and one light year is 5.8 trillion miles, it would take a craft going 10,000 miles per hour 280,000 years to reach the Earth from that nearest solar system.

  • TIME

    Dear People,
    Please mark your calendar as today is a day that you will recall for the rest of your TIME.
    That’s 8 / 28 / 13 {World War Three } has begun.
    Toady Russia and China both walked out of the Corporation known as the United States and their cronies known as the European nations, to include the United Kingdom’s UN talks of aggression and WAR on Syria, and Iran.
    This oddly is also the date noted by Albert Pike all those years ago, he stated that World War Three would start on “August 28th 2013,” odd how is was correct on World war 1 & 2, so would you really think he is wrong on this.
    Then ~ To back all this up, the Bible has given very accurate accounts of events that will be – before this last battle for the SOULS of Man.
    Of what by the way – Mr. Pike even though he was a follower of Lucifer, he knew his Holy Bible like the back of his hand.
    May GOD Bless the Souls of all the GOOD PEOPLE as in the countless millions who are about to die over the coming years.
    Pray for Peace, Love your neighbors as you would LOVE The Christ,
    To You that understand the spiritual war that is also upon us – Open your hearts to the Holy Sprit and submit to all that is GOOD.
    Peace and Love be with you who understand the overt as well covert ramifications to what is about to unfold.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      WHY the Administration is rushing to take Military actions against Syria.

      WHY they rush? WHY they do not wait for the UN inspectors’ investigation report? They did not verify yet that Assad used Chemical Weapons. Aren’t the UN inspectors remaining in Syria?

      WHY they rush to attack WITHOUT any proof – undeniable FACTS.
      http://rt.com/news/syria-chemical-weapons-un-775/

      Didn’t the speaker of the House Pelosi (unbalanced) travel to Syria in April of 2007 with the MESSAGE of peace and love to Assad
      http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-04-04-pelosi-syria_N.htm

      Wasn’t the Syrian President Assad regarded as a ‘REFORMER’ by the U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in March of 2011?

      She made that statement at the time the unrest in Syria already originated in the city of Deraa near the border with Jordan and has spread to other centers, including Damascus and Latakia, a coastal city.

      But on July 6, 2012 the political whore hillary said that “Russia and China Will Pay” for Supporting Assad.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ltPixsIGQ

      Did not she and Illegal pRESIDENT of the WH arm the rebels?

      Once Putin placed hillary where she belongs
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q55SxoaiJjw

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said! I couldn’t agree more. Recently, Obama bin laden has stated that his administration, along with the legislation they have passed, would be welcomed by MLK, Jr. I don’t know what he was sniffing, but he is dead wrong. Here is an article that describes how Obama bin Laden is his nightmare, not his dream.
      http://www.janmorganmedia.com/2013/08/dr-king-had-a-dream-obama-is-a-nightmare/
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “A man can build a throns from bayonets, but he can never sit upon it.”
      Francis Bacon
      *Doesn’t this sound like Obama bin Laden?

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        I am inclined to believe that was intentional provocation of the “rebels” – Al Qaeda or whatever they are – and not without the Kenyan Kriminal approval. This is going back to the U.S. embassy in Libya.

        The STUPID Clown-in-chief is a puppet of the MBH.
        And there is NOTHING funny in his clowning.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          You are correct. For there is no reason for Asaad to use chemical weapons. He has the backing of Russia and Iran, so he does not need to use them. Of course, idiots like Obama bin Lade and smilee would have you think otherwise. Smilee doesn’t believe these people can get their hands on such weapons, but we both know that he has been out to lunch permanently. Here is an article showing the libturds and progturds policies on Iraq and Syria. Just a bunch of hypocrites.
          http://www.rush;imbaugh.com/daily/2013/08/27/democrat_hypocrisy_on_syria_and_iraq
          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. They say that Bush was bad, but he is nothing compared to the resident alien we have in office. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “”Whatever makes men good Christians makes them good citizens.”
          Daniel Webster
          American statesman
          “Defender of the Constitution”
          Devout Christian

  • ibn insha

    Until a secret is revealed we don’t know if the secret was for our good or not no matter what the government claims. Less secretive a government is the better. I would opt for an open government. We can deal with an outside enemy but dealing with an enemy within is difficult for you don’t know such enemy until it is too late.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Correct! We don’t know what all the enemies are that are supporting Obama bin Laden. We know he is supported by terrorists, bilderbergs, gays, and wackos, but who else is supporting him? Here is an article that talks about some of them.
      http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/08/27/the_race_to_blur_obama_s_red_line
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “A man who refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”
      Sir Francis Bacon

  • Quester55

    Many Reports of a NEW AREA 521 Have been around for 20+ years, Some have located them in the Mountains of New Mexico & Arizona, It’s a Secret, don’t tell anyone!