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Anti-gun Organizations Join Forces To Boost Advocacy Efforts

March 5, 2010 by  

Anti-gun organizations join forces to boost advocacy effortsTwo gun violence prevention organizations have announced they are joining forces in an effort to strengthen state-level advocacy efforts.

Freedom States Alliance (FSA) merged with States United to Prevent Gun Violence (SUPGV) and assumed its name on Feb. 23. The new organizations’ stated goal is to support existing state-based gun violence prevention organizations and expand the network of groups working to reduce gun violence in America.

"Despite the tragic and ongoing epidemic of gun violence in this country, policymakers remain unwilling to take any meaningful action to address this urgent public safety issue," said Sally Slovenski, executive director of SUPGV.

She added that the merger will increase opportunities for the sharing of resources and strategies for state groups with a view of influencing anti-gun agenda "in state houses across the country."

As a an example of grassroots success, SUPGV cited Ceasefire New Jersey whose advocacy helped pass a one-gun-a-month law in the state.

However, in one commentary after the announcement, a blogger writing for GunPoliticsNY.com, dismissed the move by stating that "fresh off their defeat with the new federal law allowing guns in national parks, [these]organizations are merging in an attempt to remain relevant."

The amendment to the Credit Cardholders’ Bill of Rights Act of 2009, authored by Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), which permits national park visitors to possess firearms consistent with the laws of the state in which the park is located, went into effect on Feb. 22.
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  • J C

    Oh Look! Anti-gun advocates are joing forces. Well I suppose that’s a good idea….because NONE of them alone are as stupid as ALL of them together!
    When will these morons understand that gun control is useless?
    Are they all hitting from the same bong?

    • Joe H.

      JC,
      If any of this legislation gets passed, I hope every one of these maroons as, Bugs would say, are victims of a gun crime that could have been avoided if they had had a weapon!!!!!

      • John

        If they only had a Brain

    • JeffH

      I hope Bloomberg’s failing MAIG joins up with them. It sure make it easier to keep track of your enemies that way. Make no mistake though, they will come after you gun rights and will continue to be a formidable opponent.

      • J C

        Formidable? Well I don’t know….
        Will they be as well armed as us? ;)

  • Barb

    Any normal human being is going to be against unlawful gun violence. Gun regulation where private citizens can no longer bear or own guns is not the answer. The bad guys will always be armed and dangerous. They will get the weapons no matter what. Why can’t these do-gooder organizations understand this? It is NOT the average citizen who commits gun violence, it is the criminals and no matter how much you regulate guns they will get them and easily leaving the rest of us totally helpless-HELLO!! I for one do not want to be sitting here helpless. Thank you but leave my rights alone!

    • JeffH

      Barb, you make too much sense for the anti’s. They still believe if no one is allowed to have guns, even the bad guys won’t have them.
      Makes sense to me? I’m just not one of them.

    • Tom

      Just once I’d like to ask one of these liberal weed eating, elitists what they would do if I were to propose a law banning vegetarianism. Or that REQUIRES everyone to own guns. Or, maybe, a law that makes saying anything against a conservative a “hate crime.”
      I can only imagine that their blood pressure would skyrocket more than it does when you mention George W. or Sarah Palin.

      • Joe H.

        Tom,
        If you could guarantee me the pressure would raise high enough to stroke out a few, I’d propose it for you!!!! When they leave my rights alone and worry about their own little boring lives then will I wish better for them!!!

    • coal miner

      Barb,

      I agree with you 100 persent.I am a gun owner.Guns are not in the bargain chip,any shape or form.You said it all.Have a good day.

      • Joe H.

        coal miner,
        For once, we agree!! Thank you!

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      Barb;
      I think some of the anti-gun zealots do understand it, although they will never admit it, because their real agenda is “socialistic control of the people”. Control of the guns just happens to be the first, and most important step for them.

      • L, USA

        All true Stephaan, and like Coalminer exerts, I say we keep our 2nd Amendment rights! Also, let’s not fail to reconize that liberal elitest zealots who advocate/promulgate a world take-over and total control, are of the same vein as organized crime.

        • DaveH

          No doubt. It’s amazing to me how generally moral people can think that it is okay for Government to ignore morality.

  • J.M.R.

    well said barb but dont forget our ever loving dictator can’t rule the U.S.A.if the honest people can protect themselves. just look at the slum city where he came from.

  • William Nealey

    these anti gun IDIOTS are in it for the money and nothing else except they want to dictate to others,and I agree with Joe. it would be so nice if any future violence were directed at them instead of the poor densless ones it is directed at, how many of you remember the antigunner years ago who was caught with a gun after writing so many anti gun articles? and I venture to say most if not all of these IDIOTS are armed,

    • Joe H.

      William,
      look at fat rosie O.!! She is so anti-gun, that she made some chorus change the words to Annie get your gun on her show so guns weren’t mentioned and the very next day it was revealed that her body guard had applied for a gun permit the very same day!!! what a hypocritical female dog!!!! With as much body as there is to protect on her, I’m suprised that he didn’t apply for a bazooka permit!!!

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        Rosie O’Porko doesn’t really need any protection Joe. She has enough body fat to equal 2 flack jackets. Mythbusters did a show on how well body fat stops bullets, and when I saw it, I immediately thought about Rosie and Soaprah and their anti-gun politics.

  • CJ

    It’s always funny how foolish people prove their stupidity, thinking somebody who has broken the law will, somehow, become law abiding when more laws are made. Then they turn around and wonder why law enforcement can’t help, not understanding their actions have actually hindered their objective. What is it they say about insanity?

    • L, USA

      CJ, The Truth about insanity is having a lighted yet narrow and rocky path out from danger, yet instead, fearfully choosing to leap into the dark cravass and destruction.

  • bob goodman

    These anti-2nd amendment types are Obama’s marxist/socialist progressives.
    If your on the street at night, someone mugs you and tries to get your gun from you, just shoot them, right?

  • Grampy

    Ah yes gun control. A firm grip, steady hold, a keen eye, and a smooth pull of the trigger; now that’s gun control.

    • JeffH

      The best gun control is hitting what you aim at. Speaking of that, I’m heading to the indoor range to practice with my newly aquired Sig P226 9mm. Gotta make sure I develope a steady grip with it.

      • Joe H.

        jeffH,
        I’m thinking of getting a Glock 9mm but with my arthritis in my wrists I’m not sure. I’ve got a pistol and a derringer both chambered for .22 cal and an auto in 32 cal. What is the kick back on your 9mm like taking into consideration the sore wrists. I used to be pretty dam good with the 45 in the army, also the 38, but that’s been a few days considering I was in during RVN.

        • J C

          Maybe consider getting yourself a Benelli Extrema 2 12ga. Semi-Auto
          It has almost zero recoil and will fire 12 rounds in 1.75 seconds.
          If home defense is the goal, it will do nicely.

          • Joe H.

            JC,
            I’m looking to get back into shooting again I used to have a .357 and I could handle that but with the arthritis, I’m sure I couldn’t handle it now!!!

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            JC,
            Are those stats right? That is faster than ar15, m-16, 20 rds in 5.5 secs. Tell us more

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            Joe H;
            You can get a muzzle brake put on just about any gun nowdays, and it will reduce the recoil significantly. Call a few gun stores in your area and see if they have any .45′s set up with one that they would allow you to test fire.
            If you liked your .45acp in the Army, you will still like them. There is nothing better in my opinion. Even though I can only shoot two at a time I have a few ;-) Keep in mind that they are better than a shotgun for home defense (in most cases) because shotguns are a bit unwieldy in close quarters.

          • JeffH

            JC, just an FYI, it’s a Beretta, not a Benelli

          • J C

            Thanks Jeff, I actually sopped back in here today to correct that.
            I just bought a Benelli Super Black Eagle and I guess I had Benelli on the brain.

            Stephaan: Check it out.
            http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6750458630308006678#

          • J C

            Joe, if handguns are your preference, try out the Kimber .45 Semi-Auto Target 2. It has very manageable recoil and is very reliable with ball ammunition.

          • JeffH

            I’ve owned 4 Benellis, 1 original HK/Benelli SBE-17 years now, 1 synthetic SBE, 1 20ga Montefeltro with a 24″ bbl and I just purchased a new Vinci with the 26″ bbl. I swear by them for all my shotgunning.

          • JeffH

            The Kimber is a great 45 auto with all the bells and whistles. They also come in 22 cal also.

          • L, USA

            For home use only, the shot gun can be shortened. It is very manuverable with pistol grip and short barrel.

        • JeffH

          Joe H., I just returned from 100rds at The Range here in Fresno. My P226 is a former sherrif’s gun from Banning. I feel sorry for anyone that would be dumb enough to attack me or atempt to rob me. Wasn’t much left in the center of the paper target.
          I wouldn’t use anything less than a 9mm for home defense and with questionable wrists, I would go with a(I owned one in better times) Beretta 92FS/M9 because it is a heavier pistol. The Sig Sauer is very nice to shoot also. I never cared for the polymer Glocks, although they are excellant pistols. Also, don’t be afraid to use a wrist wrap/brace as added support for your wrist.

          • Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I agree with the brace for the range but for home defense I would be worried about loosing my grip. I might look into a brake on a 9mm and see if that works. The range here let’s you try range owned guns. They like it when you buy!!! they also give you a break on the price on the range if you buy your ammo from them. I checked their prices and they aren’t too much different than sporting equipment stores. I guess it works out ok!

          • Joe H.

            Stephaan,
            Sorry if I made you understand that I liked the military 45, I didn’t. That grip safety killed more people than it saved, never did like it. Most people with GOOD wrists had trouble holding it on target. I fired sharpshooter with it but I dam near killed my wrists practicing before I qualified on it. A friend got me interested in the 357 in Nam when he showed me that you could shoot military 38s in it. He had a 45 derringer that he put 410 shotgun shells in also. He pulled it on a NVA and the guy just laughed till the shot caught him full in the face at about seven feet!!!!

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            LOL Joe…
            A face full of .410 pellets will make anybody quit laughing pretty damn fast. You’re right about the military .45′s being sloppy and inaccurate because most of them were well worn leftovers from WWII, and even when fairly new the barrel bushings were nowhere near a tight fit, but all of that is changed now Joe.
            The exteriors still look the same but they’ve had new designs on the barrel bushings for years, and the “grip safety” that you don’t like can be “pinned” very easily. In fact it’s a common mod. You can also get ’45 acps with an aluminum frame, and the combat commanders are shorter by an inch (barrel& slide) and are therefore lighter.
            I shot my brothers .357 mag several years back and it kicked more than my .45′s. Is your wrist arthritis causing you problems as far as recoil, or as far as the weight of just holding a heavy pistol?
            If I remember correctly his .357 was also heavier than my .45 acps also. Do you have a good wrist and a bad one or are they both bad?

        • DaveH

          Joe,
          Have you tried Glucosamine Sulfate and/or Green Tea Extract for that Arthritis?

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            Yup Both and no help, but thanks for the thought.

  • daniel

    COMMON SENSE THE ONLY REASON GOVERNMENT WANTS TO BAN GUNS IS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AMERICA A POLICE STATE AND CITIZENS UNABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. IT HAS HAPPEND WORLD WIDE AND THE RESULTS ARE CLEARLY A TAKE OVER BY GOVERNMENT AND DICTATORSHIPS, KISS FREEDON GOOD BYE IF THAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. ANY FOOL KNOWS GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, IT IS PEOPLE THAT KILL PEOPLE WITH A GUN OR A KNIFE OR A ROCK. LAW BREAKERS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THEIR GUNS ONLY HONEST LAW ABIDEING CITIZENS WILL DO A FOOL THING LIKE THAT.
    I CONSIDER THE WORDS OF CHARLTON HESTON WHAT ALL AMERICANS SHOULD SAY [ OVER MY DEAD BODY] THE LAW SHOULD REQUIRE ALL AMERICAN CITZENS TO CARRY A GUN AND KNOW HOW AND WHEN TO USE IT, THAT IS COMMON SENSE AND IT WOULD STOP 90% OF THE VIOLENCE IN AMERICA.

    • Dennis

      Amen brother,
      There is one little thing that we all should remember ,The 2nd AMENDMENT.IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IT SAYS
      A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, BEING NECESSARY TO THE SECURITY OF A FREE STATE, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, SHHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

    • L, USA

      There are laws (Constitional State and Local) yet that do require legal citizans to bear arms. These carry on from the colonial days! Many are in New England states and townships. http://www.aclj.org

  • daniel

    THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GIVES ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS SO STOP STEPING ON MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AS A AMERICAN CITIZEN. STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT RIGHT FROM AMERICANS BY ANY LOCAL STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS. IT REQUIRES A AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION AND THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, BET ON IT. MORALITY CAN NOT BE LEGISLATED ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT AND THAT IS THE CAUSE OF MOST PROBLEMS IN AMERICA AND IT IS TIME AMERICANS STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS AND STOP BEING LIKE SHEEP LED TO SLAUGHTER.

    • TexasLea123

      Daniel: It’s okay by me… YOU CAN YELL ALL YOU WANT! OUR RIGHTS AND THE CONSTITUTION ARE BEING STRIPPED AWAY, PIECE BY PIECE! ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO “CONTROL THE MASSES” IS BY TAKING THEIR GUNS AWAY[LAWFULLY, OF COURSE.LMAO!] THIS NARCISSISTIC RULER OF THE WORLD IDIOT[S] WE HAVE IN THE WH, ARE POWER HUNGRY ELITISTS! THEY MUST BE STOPPED! THIS IS AMERICA! WE ARE “NOT” A POLICE STATE AND WE WILL “NOT” BECOME A POLICE STATE!
      FORCING THIS BS “HEALTHCARE BILL” DOWN OUR THROATS W/ALL IT’S DOUBLE TALK AND HIDDEN FINES, PROMISES/PAYOUTS/FEDERAL JUDGESHIP APPOINTMENTS TO FAMILY MEMBERS OF CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND NOW[THE OBVIOUS NEXT STEP] TAKING OUR GUN RIGHTS AWAY[TO KEEP US ALL SAFE, THEY SAY! LMFAO!] I DON’T WANT GOV. HEALTHCARE, I DON’T WANT ANYMORE BAILOUT NONSENSE AND I “WILL NOT STAND FOR THE TAKING OF OUR GUNS!” I’M FROM TEXAS, AND WE KNOW OUR RIGHTS TO CARRY OUR GUNS.” WE’LL CARRY THEM LAWFULLY OR WE’LL CARRY THEM ANYWAY!

    • Steve

      Well said Brother,We have let one or two morons dictate to the entire populace what we have to do, enough is enough it is time for the United States of America to shine again and stay a World power.Read history, a lot of the Japanese were educated in the United States and when asked why they didn’t try to invade the United States when they bomed Pearl Harbor they said they knew the people were armed and it would not succed.

  • JeffH

    daniel, don’t yell. We can hear you.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    On the virtue of the Original Intent of the Founders: “The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” Thomas Jefferson (However, I’m beginning to believe he may’ve had more than just the use of the second amendment in it’s own defense in mind.) “Timid men (aka: politically-correct effete wimps) prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty.” ~Thomas Jefferson “I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical,” wrote Thomas Jefferson to James Madison from Paris in January 1787, about Revolutionary War Capt. Daniel Shay’s anti-tax rebellion in Massachusetts. “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” ~Thomas Jefferson All of this from the one Founder the left holds far and away above all others.

    • Joe H.

      Myron,
      Amen!! This is why I have been spouting that we need to raise hell with our reps and let them know that if they support this health care bill, we will see them out of a job and career and we WILL be watching and remembering. We should write the names of everyone of these azzholes that support it and vote them DOWN in 2010 and 2012!!! GIVE EM’HELL!!!!!

      • DaveH

        Joe,
        I wrote an email to my local House Rep, and told her that if she voted again for the Healthcare Bill, I am going to actively campaign against her.

        • L, USA

          Well done!

        • Joe H.

          DaveH,
          Well done indeed!!! I just wish more would!!! That’s the very way we beat amnesty under Bush!!!!

  • Eric

    Perhaps if these anti gunners placed a little more emphasis within their own house perhaps we would have far less little gangsters running around in which we would have to protect ourselfs against. The said truth that these people don’t see is that violence increases as guns decrease with law abiding citizens, and so does your freedoms. Eric S.

  • Charlie Lee

    If a conservative doesn’t like guns – he/she doesn’t buy one. If a Liberal doesn’t like guns, he/she wants nobody to have one. Liberals think they know everything that is “good for the people”, but they don’t. Leave me and my Constitutional Rights alone!! I can decide for myself. I’m a big boy now. And, I have decided to own guns. Liberals – live your own life and let the rest of us right thinking people live ours.

    • J C

      Looks like the classic “Live and let live” Liberals are extinct and have been replaced with social engineering parasites.

  • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

    I have often thought that the N.R.A., The Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America, The CCRKBA, and all the other pro Constitution, pro 2nd amendment organizations, whether large or small, should merge into one large group for more political power. There is POWER in numbers, and as individual groups, we just don’t have the “numbers” or as much political clout, as the leftie socialist anti-gunners.

    Think of it this way: Would you rather defend your position with a bunch of different, individual squads against a common enemy, or would you rather use “one entire INTEGRATED BATTALION” to defend your position. “One unified army within one castle” has more power, than separate splinter groups, (unless you are fighting a guerrilla war which this is not). It is one issue, one ideal, & one common belief and agenda among us, “protection of the second amendment, which in turn protects the Constitution and the freedoms that it gives us”.

    The only reasons I can think of why none of them have ever proposed merging, is because of the money factor, or the infighting that might occur between the individual leaders who might not want to relinquish their individual power. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

    Denniso, and other liberal socialists need not respond. I have already seen your interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

    • DaveH

      I disagree Stephaan. It is typical for organizations to become more cumbersome as they grow larger and less nimble. Even gun advocates can benefit from competition.

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        You may be right Dave.
        When I read your reply I thought about the SIZE of our government and their inability to get anything done, and your words rang true.

        Still with the NRA only having approx. 4- 5 million and the others averaging approx 1/2 million or less each, do you think that would be too large?
        I’m thinking 10 million members collectively, would have a much larger impact on the liberal socialists in Congress and the prez, than a few million here and there in different splinter groups.
        After all, that’s why FSA & SUPGV are merging.

        • DaveH

          I was converted to GOA about 15 years ago, because I liked their proactive approach. They have always made it easy for their members to raise hell with the Elected Officials on both State and Federal levels.
          NRA lost me decades ago, because they were wasting their members money putting a sporting spin (primarily hunting) on the 2nd Amendment rights. This of course fell flat on the ears of the many people who don’t enjoy hunting, trap shooting, etc.
          They finally got their act together after much damage was done to our gun rights and they started emphasizing self-defense and protection against an out-of-control Government. But for me it was too late. I had already moved on.
          I still think they are less effective then Gun Owners of America per donor dollar, so I wouldn’t want them diluting GOA.

          • JC

            Dave, did you get the latest NRA newsletter?
            The transcript of the McDonald v City of Chicago.

            http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/litigation/08_1521scotustrans.pdf

            Very Interesting.

          • DaveH

            JC,
            Did you notice the Judicial Activism being practiced by Justice Breyer? Rather then interpret whether the letter of the Constitution is being violated, he wants to make a decision on what in his opinion is better for society.
            They are not there to make subjective opinions on what is best for society, they are there to determine if a law is Constitutional or not. We need to get these Liberals out of our Government.

          • JC

            Yes, I noticed. The Supremes geneerally seem to want to make groundless arguments. Sotomayer for example states that the Chicago hand gun ban has saved “hundreds” of women’s lives in domestic violence situations. I say prove it!
            What would stop these same abusers from using their fists, a steak knife, or a club of some kind?
            And if these same women had a pistol, would they not be more capable of defending themselves?
            It is an “engineered towards greater government control” activist Supreme court that has brought us so far down the road towards having no rights at all that has caused so many of our problems.
            I see no reason we should trust our Liberties to a group of 9 government lawyers with life time tenure that have the central government’s interests in mind. Justice? Not at all.

          • Joe H.

            JC,
            I would think that would be a slam dunk for even the NRA, as all they would have to do is state the number of womens deaths for hands, knives, and clubs!!! Then all they have to do is tell Sotomyor that those deaths from guns would have just been an addition to the other catagories if guns had been outlawed!!!!

      • JeffH

        I think it is important to have several pro 2nd amendment/freedom organizations fighting for rights at the same time. Each have differant perspectives to add to the fight for freedom, and I think that is a good thing. Also, it is always the end result that is most important.

        • L, USA

          Agreed. Like a tree is formed from the ground, it must branch upward to provide for the base.

  • jim

    The way it looks, these anti-gun groups are going to try to sneak in the back way at the state level and use the ” it’s to fight crime” aproach. In Chicago Mc Donald V. Chicago it looks like the Supreme Court is going to rule in favor of The 2nd Ammendment. The Bill of Rights is for ALL Americans, not just the ones who’s governor or mayor is kind enough to allow to have them. It’s really not about crime control, just CONTROL.

    • JeffH

      That arguement “it’s to fight crime” has been proven ineffective over and over. Statistics have melted that arguement. Unfortunately, there will always be someone, somewhere that doesn’t care flip about statistics and an individuals freedoms. We always have to fight for our freedom.

      • L, USA

        Being vigilent and prudent, and having the power of reason, we are fortunate to embrace liberty, by grace and live by the laws of good conscience, put in forth within our National and State Constitutions. Thanks be to the God of our forefathers, our Creator. ‘L’ LLX

        • L, USA

          Beg pardon! That’s MMX.

      • DaveH

        I remember several decades ago reading about how Great Britain’s crime rate was lower than ours. It was revealed then that in their statistics at that time, they didn’t count repeat offenses by the same person. Duh, so of course their statistics looked better than ours.

        http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/guncontrol_20010302.html

        • DaveH

          I have read several articles by gun-control apologists who admit that the assault rate in Australia climbed steadily for about 6 years (a 75% increase in 6 years) after the 1996/1997 Australian Gun Laws were passed. But they excuse that away by saying they were climbing at the same rate before the Gun Laws. Maybe so, but weren’t the Gun Laws passed to reduce that crime? Liberals always have excuses for their failures.

        • JeffH

          The anti’s aren’t afraid to manipulate any study in their favor. Remember global warming? He he!

          • usmadgirl

            JeffH,

            I just heard on Fox earlier that China has now joined the “Climate Change” treaty. That just leaves Russia! Al Gore should be used for target practice for the weapons you guys have been discussing! Just kidding, for all those who can’t take a joke! I’m just saying that his get rich scheme has sucked the world into his hoax & we’re going to have to pay for his lie. He’s worse & ripped off more people than Bernie Madoff & should be in prison with him!

  • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

    RASMUSSEN POLL:
    MOST AMERICANS SAY CITIES HAVE NO RIGHT TO BAN HANDGUNS

    BELLEVUE, WA – A new Rasmussen poll has revealed that an overwhelming majority of Americans reject the notion that cities have a right to ban handguns, siding with the Second Amendment Foundation’s position in its lawsuit to overturn the Chicago gun ban.

    Oral arguments in the SAF case were heard by the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday. Court observers predict the high court will overturn the Chicago ban, thus incorporating the Second Amendment to state and local governments through provisions in the 14th Amendment. Results from Rasmussen’s national telephone survey found that 69 percent of the respondents say cities have no right to ban legal handgun ownership, while 25 percent believe cities can ban guns.

    “The Rasmussen survey clearly shows that Americans have grown weary of anti-gun municipal demagoguery,” said SAF Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “A victory in our case before the Supreme Court should send a clear signal to gun prohibitionists like Chicago Mayor Richard Daley that arbitrarily disarming law-abiding citizens under the guise of fighting crime is an idea that has no place in this country.”

    SAF is joined in its case by the Illinois State Rifle Association and four Chicago residents, including Otis McDonald, for whom the Supreme Court case is named.

    The Rasmussen poll also found very little difference between current public sentiment and earlier surveys that noted 70 percent of American adults believe the U.S. Constitution guarantees the individual right to own a firearm.

    “For years,” Gottlieb said, “the anti-gun lobby has been claiming majority support for its Draconian agenda, but polling data like this new information from Rasmussen shows that the public is not about to surrender a significant civil right. We believe the Supreme Court is on the verge of expanding the scope of that right by applying the Second Amendment to the states.”

    The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nations oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and an amicus brief and fund for the Emerson case holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.
    Please e-mail, distribute, and circulate to friends and family
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    email: InformationRequest@saf.org

  • dazed&confuzd

    JoeH, Kel-Tec has come out with a 22 magnum with a 30 round clip. That should be easy on your arthritis and I think 30, 22 mag. hollow points should get your POINT across.
    I own a Kel-Tec P11, 9mm. Its very light weight and shots okay except for the long trigger pull. Go to; kel-tec-cnc.com

  • James

    I would suggest the old .30 caliber M1 military carbine is ideal for home defense. The cartridge is like that of a large pistol. It’s short and maneuvers easily. Thirty-round magazines are available. With a few extra parts, it can made into a full-automatic, with a select switch for either semi or full automatic.

    • Dennis

      Kel-Tec makes a real nice gun i have the PLR-16 Pistol it shoots the 5.56 or .223 2600 FPS very nice weapon, And if it don’t work the AK-47 does very well also :-))

      • JeffH

        My newly built CMMG/Del-Ton AR-15 with a 3.5-12 Brunton scope and a 20″ barrel cuts a 4″ center at 300 yards shooting 5.56 55gr green tips. Sweet!

        • Dennis

          :-) i love brother stay on it ;-)

      • Joe H.

        Dennis,
        I checked out the site for kel tec and that 16 is a real mean looking sum-b but all I’m looking for is a pistol in a 9mm or 40cal that will not make my wrists kill me after a box of shells on the range!! I used to find that shooting actually relaxed me. I guess it’s like a golfer and I do mean I guess as I never got into the game.

    • Dennis

      Sorry James i was replying to dazed&confuzd but i also have the .30 cal. M1 carbine and your right it works well in small places.
      Opps i ment to say my wifes M1 Carbine she took it ;-)

  • Rod

    I like my marlin 45/70 with Hornady 325 grain govt. Makes a really big hole! Or my Springfield XD 40 cal with 180 grain hollow nose for
    concealed carry. I like to hang around with good friends.

    • Dennis

      I like my Shiloh Sharp 45/70 its A mean machine.

  • jim

    If 911 doesn’t work, call on .357.

  • L, USA

    Even the ole’ SuperBlackhawk 44cal. w/safety kit, and Win. Egle Claw Silvertip hollows when accurately fanned or just a dab’l doo ya. Also, let’s not forget to mention that there are non-lethal loads for use as one may deem appropriate depending on the environment. This is part of sound discretion and, if reasonable, may be incorporated as a level of preparedness, as may be practical. Not to sound ‘lawyeresque’ by any means! Law begins at home!

  • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

    Check out how many of these czars are ANTI-2ND AMENDMENT AND ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL!

    The Commander & Cheats appointed czars. Read who they are and what they want to do.

    Czar Position: Summary

    Richard Holbrooke: Afghanistan Czar
    Ultra liberal ANTI GUN former Gov. of New Mexico. Pro Abortion and legal drug use. PRIMARY OBJECTIVE, IS TO DISSOLVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT.

    Ed Montgomery: Auto recovery Czar
    Black radical anti business activist. Affirmative Action and Job Preference for blacks. Univ of Maryland Business School Dean teaches US business has caused world poverty. ACORN board member. Communist DuBois Club member.

    Jeffrey Crowley: AIDS Czar
    Radical Homosexual.. A Gay Rights activist.. Believes in Gay Marriage and especially, a Special Status for homosexuals only, including complete free health care for gays.

    Alan Bersin: Border Czar
    The former failed superintendent of San Diego . Ultra Liberal friend of Hilary Clinton. Served as Border Czar under Janet Reno to keep borders open to illegals without interference from US

    David J. Hayes: California Water Czar
    Sr. Fellow of radical environmentalist group, Progress Policy. No training or experience in water management whatsoever.

    Ron Bloom: Car Czar
    Auto Union worker. Anti business & anti nuclear. Has worked hard to force US auto makers out of business. Sits on the Board of Chrysler which is now Auto Union owned. How did this happen?

    Dennis Ross: Central Region Czar
    Believes US policy has caused Mid East wars. Obama apologist to the world. ANTI GUN and completely pro abortion.

    Lynn Rosenthal: Domestic Violence Czar
    Director of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Vicious anti male feminist. Supported male castration. Imagine?

    Gil Kerlikowske: Drug Czar
    devoted lobbyist for every RESTRICTIVE GUN LAW proposal, Former Chief of Police in Liberal Seattle. Believes no American should own a firearm. Supports legalization of all drugs

    Paul Volcker: Economic Czar
    Head of Fed Reserve under Jimmy Carter when US economy nearly failed. Obama appointed head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board which engineered the Obama economic disaster to USeconomy.. Member of anti business Progressive Policy organization

    Carol Brower: Energy and Environment Czar
    Political Radical Former head of EPA – known for anti-business activism. Strong ANTI-GUN OWNERSHIP.

    Joshua DuBois: Faith Based Czar
    Political Black activist-Degree in Black Nationalism.
    ANTI GUN OWNERSHIP lobbyist.

    Cameron Davis: Great LakesCzar
    Chicago radical anti business environmentalist. Blames George Bush for Poisoning the water that minorities have to drink. No experience or training in water management. Former ACORN Board member (what does that tell us?)

    Van Jones: Green Jobs Czar
    (since resigned).. Black activist Member of American communist Party and San Francisco Communist Party who said Geo Bush caused the 911 attack and wanted Bush investigated by theWorld Court for war crimes. Black activist with strong anti-white views.

    Daniel Fried: Guantanamo Closure Czar
    Human Rights activist for Foreign Terrorists. Believes America has caused the war on terrorism. Believes terrorists have rights above and beyond Americans.

    Nancy-Ann DeParle: Health Czar
    Former head of Medicare / Medicaid. Strong Health Care Rationing proponent. She is married to a reporter for The New York Times.

    Vivek Kundra: Information Czar
    Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails.

    Todd Stern: International Climate Czar
    Anti business former White House chief of Staff- Strong supporter of the Kyoto Accord. Pushing hard for Cap and Trade. Blames US business for Global warming. Anti- US business prosperity.

    Dennis Blair: Intelligence Czar
    Ret Navy. Stopped US guided missile program as provocative. Chair of ultra liberal Council on Foreign Relations which blames American organizations for regional wars.

    George Mitchell: MideastPeace Czar
    Fmr. Sen from Maine Left wing radical. Has said Israel should be split up into 2 or 3 smaller more manageable plots. (God forbid) A true Anti-nuclear ANTI-GUN & pro homosexual “special rights” advocate

    Kenneth Feinberg: Pay Czar
    Chief of Staff to TED KENNEDY. Lawyer who got rich off the 911 victims payoffs. (horribly true)

    Cass Sunstein: Regulatory Czar
    Liberal activist judge believes free speech needs to be limited for the common good. Essentially against 1st amendment. Rules against personal freedoms many times like private GUN OWNERSHIP and right to free speech.

    John Holdren: Science Czar
    Fierce ideological environmentalist, Sierra Club, Anti business activist. Claims US business has caused world poverty. No Science training.

    Earl Devaney: Stimulus Accountability Czar
    Spent career TRYING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM AMERICAN CITIZENS! Believes in Open Borders to Mexico . Author of statement BLAMING US GUN STORES for drug war in Mexico .

    J. Scott Gration: Sudan Czar
    Native of Democratic Republic of Congo. Believes US does little to help Third World countries. Council of foreign relations, asking for higher US taxes to support United Nations

    Herb Allison: TARP Czar
    Fannie May CEO responsible for the US recession by using real estate mortgages to back up the US stock market. Caused millions of people to lose their life savings.

    John Brennan: Terrorism Czar
    Anti CIA activist. No training in diplomatic or gov. affairs. Believes Open Borders to Mexico and a dialog with terrorists and has suggested Obama disband US military

    Aneesh Chopra: Technology Czar
    No Technology training. Worked for the Advisory Board Company, a health care think tank for hospitals. Anti doctor activist. Supports Obama Health care Rationing and salaried doctors working exclusively for the Gov. health care plan

    Adolfo Carrion Jr: Urban Affairs Czar
    Puerto Rican born Anti American activist and leftist group member in Latin America . Millionaire slum lord of the Bronx , NY. Owns many lavish homes and condos which he got from sweetheart deals with labor unions. Wants higher taxes on middle class to pay for minority housing and health care

    Ashton Carter: Weapons Czar
    Leftist. WANTS ALL PRIVATE WEAPONS IN US DESTROYED. Supports U.N. BAN ON ALL PRIVATE FIREARMS OWNERSHIP IN AMERICA. Has no other policy

    Gary Samore: WMD Policy Czar
    Former US Communist. Wants US to destroy all WMD unilaterally as a show of good faith. Has no other policy.

    How lucky are we that these are the people who are helping Obama in the RUINING of our 2ND AMENDMENT, our CONSTITUTION and our country.

    • JC

      It’s a veritable “Rogues Gallery”.

    • DaveH

      Stephaan,
      Don’t be so sure that the Drug Wars are the way to go:
      http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11019

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        Dave;
        Drug Wars? What? I’m not following you?

    • DaveH

      Another point of view:
      http://mises.org/daily/2174

    • DaveH

      I think this one is powerful. Of course, it will inflame the far-right who think they can control all bad human behavior. All I can say is if you are in that group, try reading this article with an open mind:
      http://mises.org/daily/3736

    • DaveH

      I have just gotten real tired of being caught in the middle between the Thieving Liberals and the right-wingers who think they can cure society’s moral problems by force.

    • DaveH

      Yet one more. If you can read all these articles and not have your beliefs shaken just a little, it will surprise me:
      http://mises.org/daily/2495

  • ofman Gudmundson

    The only people pushing for gun control are the New World People. These people have America pushed up to the cliff but they don’t dare push us over until after they get our guns. Anybody pushing for gun control is a traitor to America! There are two classes of traitors, 1, those that have not done their homework and 2, those that know exactly what they are doing. I would rather take my chances meeting a robber, burglar felon, or any other dingbat WITH MY GUN than face this government without my gun. veteran WW 2

  • brown

    has any of the antigun groups thought of what would happen when we have no guns? theire so worried about violence in america they have not seen anything yet. wait until some country comes here wanting to take us over. then they will see some violence like they never imangine. then let them talk about gun control. end of ww2 the united states ask the emporer of japan after pearl harbor boming why they did not come to america? his answer was he knew the people had guns and he thought it would be sucide to come here.

  • brown

    has any of the antigun groups thought of what would happen when we have no guns? theire so worried about violence in america they have not seen anything yet. wait until some country comes here wanting to take us over. then they will see some violence like they never imangine. then let them talk about gun control. end of ww2 the united states ask the emporer of japan after pearl harbor boming why they did not come to america? his answer was he knew the people had guns and he thought it would be sucide to come here.

    • L, USA

      The foolish who seek to dis-arm American citizans would only succeed in bringing more evil upon the land by disrupting the harmony of law and order, when soverign defense is necessary to maintain life, liberty and property by use of force. http://www.americancongressfortruth.org

  • CORY

    I woke up @ 0300 this morning and put together my Glock bag. When the fools come, I want to be ready. I think it is time to just start ignoring the Federal Government and go on with our lives. Hell, here in Texas, we may well secede before it’s all over! One of the things I learned a long time ago, if you don’t comply with the rules on a sweeping basis, there is no chance that they can enforce them. Run your life and your companies on a continuing business as usual, and allow the nannies to run in circles wondering why it all doesn’t work. I am not suggesting that you deliberately break the law, just don’t manage to comply very well. After a while the whole thing will just go away…..

  • http://tucsonalarm.com Roger D. Score

    Arizona State Senator Michelle Reagan, (R), is currently pushing SB 1277, a protectionist bill for national alarm companies. This bill requires anyone in the alarm business to be finger printed and back ground checked every 6 years.
    This is kind of strange, since this Senator voted for anyone in Arizona to have the freedom to carry a concealed weapon, why would she be so worried about alarm systems? I doubt if she thinks alarms are more dangerous to the public than fire arms.
    Truth is that the Arizona Legislature has proven that they follow the money. This legilature will turn on a dime, if the support or finances are their to get them re-elected.
    National Alarm Companies threw a lot of support towards Senator Reagan so it was goodbye time to the citizens of Arizona and civil rights. As long as we have the power to sway Arizona Legislatures to vote for gun rights, we can count on them to do so. We just can’t trust this legislature if support swings. They vote to get support for relections, not from their hearts.
    Once an anti gun group gets ahold of Reagan’s SB 1277, it will be used to show her hypocricy and it will be used as precedence to take away gun rights. How can a state allow free carrying of fire arms and then require employees of an industry to be regulated, finger printed and back ground checked continuously? Keep an eye out for this one.

  • http://þÿ Warren Behrman

    Very efficiently written information. It will be helpful to everyone who utilizes it, including yours truly :). Keep doing what you are doing – looking forward to more posts.

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