Another Court Rules Against The People And Constitution

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The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against the people and Constitution Wednesday when it vacated a permanent injunction barring the enforcement of Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act that allows for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens.

District Court Judge Kathryn Forrest had issued the injunction in the case of journalist Chris Hedges who, along with Daniel Ellsberg, Noam Chomsky and other activists and journalists, sued the Barack Obama Administration over NDAA. In its decision, the 2nd Circuit ruled the plaintiffs did not have standing because the law does not apply to U.S. citizens.

However, because the law does not exempt U.S. citizens from detention and uses overly broad terms, that’s exactly what it does. The act allows the military to indefinitely detain anyone the government determines has consorted with terrorists or those who committed “belligerent acts” against the United States. Hedges and his group argued that journalists often meet with people who fall into those categories and are, therefore, subject to detention under the law.

As the NDAA was passed by Congress, signed into law by the President and it was the President who appealed the injunction to the 2nd Circuit and the 2nd Circuit sided with the regime, it seems there is now no recourse to use to protect Americans against the lawless regime now inhabiting the Nation’s capital.

Responding to the decision, Hedges wrote:

This is quite distressing. It means there is no recourse now either within the Executive, Legislative or Judicial branches of government to halt the steady assault on our civil liberties and most basic Constitutional rights. It means that the state can use the military, overturning over two centuries of domestic law, to use troops on the streets to seize U.S. citizens, strip them of due process and hold them indefinitely in military detention centers. States that accrue to themselves this kind of power, history has shown, will use it. We will appeal, but the Supreme Court is not required to hear our appeal. It is a black day for those who care about liberty.

The regime is engaged in an ongoing war against the people and the truth. Federal judges are employees of the Federal government; and, therefore, they are subject to the wishes of the regime. Forrest was bold in opposing it, but she has been slapped down and ordered to proceed with the case consistent with the 2nd Circuit’s opinion.

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • $23154113

    Government courts ruling for the government. There is something very wrong when the courts set up by the Gov are ruling for the Gov. This Gov no longer needs us to fuel it, its a runaway out control entity fueling itself and taking advantage of time before we stand up and push back. We need to get control of this monster
    by force asap.

    • jdn

      It will be petty tough as the Government is the largest employer in the country and maybe the world . When the majority are dependent on the government for their livelihood any change is an uphill battle .

      • Charlie

        The government is U S , so? even IF? you are on “Our” payroll , do what Revelations 18:4 says to do,,, BUT,,, do it with your “Mind” and Spirit and stay on the job physically ,IF, you need the pay for yourself or family… You will not be able to do what Rev’ 18:4 says unless you are one of The King’s People per Acts 2:38..
        Beat the enemy with psychological / spiritual warfare, and only violence in the physical when needed to protect your Life or others……………………

        • Chuck Phipps

          How do you beat the enemy,who has weapons? With harsh psychological language?

          • Charlie

            Military Axiom , “”Knowledge is Power”” what does Hosea 4:6 say? Air heads are Not going to beat anyone………

      • $23154113

        Just like the battle for independence from England.

    • Vis Fac

      Having the government oversee the government or the police policing the police is tantamount to having an arsonist extinguishing a house fire!

      • $23154113

        Exactly

    • Charlie

      The “Trick” of this so called government rule is understanding “their” legalize loonacy language… The word “Jurisdiction” for example has a primary meaning and secondary meaning,,, do you know which is which??? Most people don’t know even some Attorneys and Judges don’t….
      So? you don’t know what your jurisdiction is ? well then your honor will tell you and it may not please you… Do you know how to “Object” with military “Respect”? BUT with “”Firm”” Truth??? The Holy Bible is A Jurisdiction above ALL jurisdictions ,,, remember ,? King Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords …. IF? you cannot say “Praise King Jesus for Salvation” , WITH command “Authority” , then you may Not get salvation because you have NOT been “Praying” in “The Name and Blood and Will of King Jesus Christ” … It’s a tuff Life and then you may have been born a heathen , that makes it even tuffer ,,, BUT,,, ALL weakness maybe made stronger with The Salvation of King Jesus Christ… See the first 2 Orders from King Jesus Christ at Matthew 6:33……………….

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      It’s been out of control for 150 years. But without the support of a very large portion of the population, violence would be useless:
      http://mises.org/daily/5363/The-Next-American-Revolution-Wont-Be-Like-the-First

      The pen is mightier than the sword.

      • $23154113

        No, not necessarily.

  • vicki

    To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. (Refusal to enforce immigration law)

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
    importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should
    be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend
    to them. (Refusal to enforce immigration law and suing Arizona for passing a law that matches the federal immigration law)

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual,
    uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records,
    for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his
    measures. (All those closed door meetings).

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
    Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    (IRS Scandals, Obamacare and the 15,000 new officers needed)

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. (http://personalliberty.com/2013/07/17/why-does-the-military-continue-to-practice-assaulting-u-s-cities)

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

    (“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the
    national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian
    national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as
    well-funded,” Obama said as a candidate in 2008.)

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to
    our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to
    their Acts of pretended Legislation: (Multiple treaties)

    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    (http://personalliberty.com/2013/07/17/why-does-the-military-continue-to-practice-assaulting-u-s-cities)

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: (IRS Scandals)

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: (NDAA 2012 and this very article above)

    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences (NDAA 2012 skip the trial and go straight to prison somewhere out there)

    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: (Recent Executive Orders)

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to
    compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with
    circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most
    barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    (Russian and UN Troops on US Soil)

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us,
    (The DOJ involvement with the Zimmerman case in florida)

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in
    the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only
    by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act
    which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.)
    (Including the constant claim that we have no standing to bring the petitions.)

    We are of course talking about King obama and not King George.

    • TIME

      My Dear Vicki,

      As I posted the other day, ” the American people are in a state of Captivity,”>>>>>> they soon >>>> Will be in a state of

      “100% total BONDAGE.”

      My Good people, I have said this many TIMES – yet some of you fail to even try to understand ~ Thus now I beg of you to listen, we no longer have any “FREEDOMS” ~~ its ALL _ an ILLUSION.

      **** Very Soon this Illusion will be clear to the most blind of blind.****

      I beg you all please get straight with The Christ as for forgiveness for your ill behavior. That’s all he ask of you.
      Peace and Love be with you, May the Love and GRACE of GOD be with you.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        Give us a break. Self righteous clown.

        • TIME

          Dear mar,

          As per your norm, each post you apply is little more than more of the same mindless ignorant utterances, over and over again.

          Thus I pay that some day your little mind will grow a seed larger than the low single digit IQ you have at the present.

          • Charlie

            You forgot to tell dummy , it’s repent or perish , Acts 2:38 or out the gate on the road to hell where all is Not well….

        • Charlie

          The King will give you a break as your knees bend to His Rule … Psalms 95:6…………..

        • Chuck Phipps

          @ Mark.Let the man say his piece,and don’t condemn his for his beliefs.

    • TIME

      Dear Vicki,

      A few points to embellish your post.

      This nation was founded on the principal of –

      ” Your are innocent until proven Guilty.”

      That’s what’s called “COMMON LAW.” This platform follows GOD’S Law, as in the law of the land mass, or the law of hard evidence, as in “solid proof” of guilt.

      As the method used in Europe was the method of

      “Admiralty Maritime Law,” ~~ where you are Guilty, until proven otherwise, or granted a pardon by the Sovereign / KING or Queen.
      This is called the Law of MAN, or the water, thus its nature is to stir emotions for effect.

      Sadly what this nation was founded on has been supplanted with what the founders worked so hard to remove, to take us out of Bondage of the King’s rule.

      But, as again we were sold out by FDR to the followers of Lucifer the Money Changers who have since perverted the system of law in this nation to the point of we are now no different than what the founders left behind, what so many Americans lost their life fighting to preserve.

      What’s really sad about this is that we have tossed GOD’S simple laws out with the bath water by allowing all the pernicious laws of Man to rule over us.

      Thus we have no moral high ground, and until that is returned to this nation, then this nation will suffer under the ruling hand of the light of the Morning Star, aka – Lucifer’s rule.

      • Charlie

        The “Common Law” is The Law that is common to all mankind , sometimes called The Holy Bible… The Devil , Satan, Lucifer, lost power to all that have touched on “The Blood of King Jesus Christ” … The empty Cross is the Symbol of “Victory” with The Salvation of King Jesus Christ… Know The Truth and It will set you free , John 8:32…

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Good job, Vicki.

    • Chuck Phipps

      Great post,Vicki,and it’s going to keep getting worse and worse.

  • antiliberal00

    When it hits the fans, I wouldn’t want to be on the side of these communist bstrds. I suspect they will pay dearly for their treachery.
    Also don’t just blame odumbo as most of the republicans supported it as well.
    The republicans have proven they are just as anti-American as the democrats.

  • wandamurline

    This law reminds me of the Salem Witch Hunts….all anyone had to do was to report that someone was a witch and then they were burned at the stake for being completely innocent, but maybe disliked by someone else who made the assertion of witch. This is what we have in the media and Eric Holder doing to Mr. Zimmerman….being a senior, I can tell you right off that there has never, ever been a more corrupt and dishonest and completely insulting group of people ever running the US of A…they ignore the laws that they don’t want to uphold and create laws themselves that they want to implement….if Obama’s skin pigmentation was other than that of black, he would have been impeached when he bombed Libya without congressional approval….which is a crime.

    • red neck

      You nailed it!

    • Alan

      I am also a senior and agree with you 100%. Remember when this was actually a free country? Sadly we have seen it degenerate little by little over a great number of years to what it has now become, and I fear there may be no turning back. Each generation has had less freedom and accepts it because they know nothing different.

      • Vis Fac

        APATHY GREED and SLOTH.

        Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. Ronald Reagan
        Unfortunately the liberal indoctrination camps known as public schools have dumbed down the population producing functionally illiterate automatons dependent on government so they are easily controlled and told how to vote. They say ignorance is bliss so liberals must be the most blissful of all not to mention stupid.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        You were around 150 years ago, Alan? That’s when Freedom went out the window. The Constitution has been gradually trampled since Lincoln the Dictator was in office.

        • Alan

          I’ not quite that old, but had a hell of a lot more freedom when I was younger. Your point is well taken.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I was using your comment as a platform to hopefully awaken those who need awakened.
            But you’re right, Alan, we did have much more Freedom then than now.

    • Vis Fac

      Or reporting a neighbor you are feuding with to CPS. All it takes is an allegation and you are guilty until you prove yourself otherwise. By then the damage has been done public opinion is something not easily overcome nor are omnipotent zealots satisfied until you are dead.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Once you face the fact that Government is just a very large coercive Gang, then everything they do makes sense.

  • ridge runner

    Why should anything Obozo and the racist AG Holder do be surprised. Both of pukes embrace the pedophile worshipping muslims by beleiving their BS ideaology and will defend these perverts at all costs to the America people and the USA.

  • dan

    Don’t let ‘em take you alive ,folks
    (remember the HMS Jersey)

    • Vis Fac

      I am not going down without a fight. I am a combat veteran my family knows how to handle firearms and have basic tactical skills. Many around me do as well. A few instances where the people fight back “might” send a message to those who would infringe (possibly UN Troops who couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag) on our rights

      • Charlie

        Are you fighting now? The fight has been and is going on Right Now!!! BUT,,, most can’t see it because they are mostly looking at the physical… The “”War”” American people are in is primarily “Psychological” and / or “Spiritual”… Remember “Ruby Ridge” with the Randy Weaver family in North Idaho hills,,, just word search ,Randy Weaver,,, for all kinds of info on the net… The U S Marshal Service “Murdered” a young boy and Murdered his Mother the next day……… How and why did the U S Marshal Service ,,,EVEN THINK ??? of doing such a act of Murder against peaceful Americans!!!!!!!!!??????????? Because,,, the American people , mostly , are “”Brainwashed”” or mind programmed by “The Churches”” and Society in general to “Think” things that simply are NOT True… AND!!! your honorable government knows how dumb the average American is… Even , Bo Gritz DID NOT have the physical and Spiritual Forces under his Command…

        What is your “Rank”? Think about how little “Command” you have of your physical , mental , Spiritual Powers ,,, then seek the “Truth” of Command power as King Jesus Christ told you to have as He said in His Law Book called The Holy Bible…
        Meanwhile,,, Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:3 is salvation…
        Charlie Freedom

        • AMERICAN PATRIOT

          Your god has no effect on bullets.
          Religion is worthless in a war, other than for personal religious relief, which in itself, is of no value to the living!

          • Charlie

            Rave on heathen , you ARE NOT an American Patriot,,, what did King Jesus say at Luke 22:36??? I also fired
            “Expert” with every hand held weapon the U S Army has,,, fired the 1911A1 Expert single handed , right OR left and the taxpayers paid for about 100 rounds a day for years on The Army Pistol Team for Me to learn to put 5 rounds thru the same hole… Notice young David prayed BEFORE he hit the Giant with a 80 caliber hand held weapon,,, AND,,, then KILLED the Giant with the Giant’s sword….
            BTW My God is spelled with a Big “G”,,, the Big “G”also
            means He Has The Big Guns… Sometimes called “Guardian Angels”,,, how about that another Big G………..
            First 2 Orders from King Jesus are at Matthew 6:33….
            King Jesus Christ , The American Militia Commander….
            Living? King Jesus came back from the dead after 3 days ,,., can you do that with bullets?……………………………………..
            Charlie Freedom

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Charlie,
            You are the kind of religious zealot who gives the other good Religious people a bad name.

          • Charlie

            Well,,, from your mind programed view you may have a small point ,,, but,,, what should I believe The Original Dave H? or the non Original ? Or The Original Almighty God of ALL Creation??? Send a list of these “religious zealots”… For your general info,,, The Holy Bible IS NOT a religion ,,, it’s a “”Way of Life”””………………………..

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            It may be — For you, Charlie. And that’s fine, but when you harangue others who don’t share your belief it is actually counter-productive.
            I think we can learn a lot from the Bible, but to me it is just one of many history books which also have educational value but must be taken with a grain of salt, because every author has their own bias.
            One valuable lesson that can be taken from the Bible is that human beings, with all their failings have been pretty much the same throughout history. We may be much more technologically advanced, but psychologically we are, by and large, the same advantage-seeking, self-serving people that humans have always been.

          • Charlie

            Prophets have always spoken things some people did not want to hear … Truth is Truth,,, prove it otherwise,,,so,,, take your opine and pick opium poppies with it……….

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Methinks, Charlie, that you need to stay away from the altar wine.

          • Charlie

            Paul said take a little wine for your stomach health,,, have I got your approval for about a half cup per day?…..

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            LOL. That’s between you and your family, Charlie.

          • momo

            I can assure you there are no atheists when the bullets start flying.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            How?

          • BlueMoney

            Christian heaven is a depressing, boring gay-fest, if it exists. An eternal church service, spent with a bearded ALPHA MALE (Jesus) who’s supposedly to “love” me forever? SCREW THAT!

            I’ll continue to be an atheist… bullets or no.

        • BlueMoney

          On top of the Ten Thousand Year Victory of Totalitarianism being close at hand (“Homeland Security” is going to squish any of you who resist and you know it) the disgusting Christian religion with its Procrustean “Heaven or Hell”, eternal boredom VS eternal torture alternative is true also?
          That would be the cherry on top of the sh!t sundae, IMHO.
          When I die, I hope at least to have oblivion. I frankly despise humanity (the idiotic, gullible, lazy creatures who failed to keep the American Republic) after having dealt with them for 44 years; having to deal with the same humans for ALL ETERNITY would be entirely too much for me.

          • Charlie

            Ha ha ha ha ,,, tell us the rest of this joke your insane brain is rattling about … There is only One Almighty God,,,
            but,,, a number of lesser gods,,, Obama is gone when Obadiah happens in few weeks, months , years……….

          • Charlie

            Ha ha ha ha ha,,, Obadiah , is a one page book in The Bible between Amos and Jonah ,,., it appears you have the same problem Crazy Horse had,,,he did not read… Crazy Horse knew how to give short hair cut as the fired Yankee General G A Custard learned ………………

      • Bob Eicholtz

        Careful force recon, big bro is watching, listening, copy and pasting, following and profiling.

        • AMERICAN PATRIOT

          WHO CARES!
          They will worry when they see the millions of armed and angry PATRIOTS readying for the fight of their lives, THEN, the NAZIS might finally get the point of the NEW REVOLUTION that WILL be upon them!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That’s how they want you to think, Bob. They want you to be afraid to stand for your rights.

    • vicki
  • TheOriginalDaveH

    To expect a Federal Agency to rule against a Federal Law is hopeful indeed.

  • IBCAMN

    just remember how the nazi’s were ,suspisiouse of everyone and arresting people on the way they look and what god they worship!think of how and what Obama and his henchmen are doing right now!building camps and having indefinite detainment and causing events to accure that help his cause,imprisenment of reporters,supporting religiouse people who are our enemies and putting himself in a position the be supreme ruler!sound fermiliar??
    imposing media blackouts on anything with negative news about him(and all attemps for impeachment)having placed judges in power who rule in his favor on anything against him!having like minded people around him to protect him from the outside world and keep him unaware of how the country really feels about him!fixing elections(he only won in key states were you don’t need an I.D. to vote!)supporters who were caught for voter fraud and the news of that was pretty much swept under the rug if even brought up to the public!
    does any or all of this sound fermiliar at all??!!
    history is repeating itself…..

  • Dexter L. Wilson

    Did I hear the word impeach. Please help elect tea party patriot Republicans that will impeach run amok federal judges. They are trying to impose Humanist Manifestos I, II, & III. Do a search and read them. These people hate the Constitution.

    • ridge runner

      Better yet read history of the beggings of the communist Democrat Party that always want government to be incontrol of every one and ownes everything. To be a fascist/communist now a marxist, allows morons to were the traitorous D by their name.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        It’s not just the Ds, runner, the Rs are right in bed with them. They are both sides of the same Progressive Coin.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    “the 2nd Circuit ruled the plaintiffs did not have standing because the law does not apply to U.S. citizens”.
    So let me get this straight. If you’re not a citizen of the US, the Government can step on your natural rights as they please? What baloney.
    Let’s face it, Folks. The Government is nothing but a very large self-serving Gang who puts on the facade of protecting the people when in fact the Leaders’ major impetus is to Feather their own nests and those of their Crony Capitalists who fund their campaigns.

  • Libertarian58

    Why courts no longer follow the Constitution
    http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/frgn_juris.html