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An App For ‘Marking Dangerous Gun Owners’ Ready For Abuse By Anti-Gun Crowd

July 10, 2013 by  

Geo Gun Marker, a smartphone app created by Walkingtools, which describes itself as “a loose confederation of software and related art or education projects,” allows users to electronically log the locations of “potentially unsafe guns and gun owners.”

A description of the app, available at the Google Play store, reads as follows:

Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners with the Gun Geo Marker. Geolocation means marking dangerous sites on the App’s map so that you and others can be aware of the risks in your neighborhood.

The Gun Geo Marker operates very simply, letting parents and community members mark, or geolocate, sites associated with potentially unsafe guns and gun owners. These locations are typically the homes or businesses of suspected unsafe gun owners, but might also be public lands or other locations where guns are not handled safely, or situations where proper rights to own or use any particular type of firearm may not exist. Electronically marking these locations can help others in the area learn about their geography of risk from gun accidents or violence. No matter what your safety concern with firearms might be, you should feel free to use this tool to provide the most accurate information you can such that others can make their own safety decisions.

The app states that it is to be used to electronically log the location of only “potentially unsafe guns and gun owners”— but judging by the gun control proposals pushed by anti-gun zealots throughout the Nation over the past several months, it’s obvious that there is no way of knowing who classifies what as a dangerous gun or gun owner.

Never fear, the app makers offer some guidelines. 

Here’s who they say you shouldn’t mark:

  • Hunters or gun enthusiasts who safely store and properly enjoy their weapons in the field, or at local firing ranges for recreational purposes.
  • You should not be concerned merely because your neighbors are a member of any national gun advocacy organization. The actual threat – just to cite the best known org – that the National Rifle Association (NRA) and its kin present to you and your children is political.
  • Finally, there is at least one particular situation in which you should certainly not use the Walkingtools Gun Geo Marker. If you have direct, personal knowledge or even a suspicion that guns are being used in context of organized criminal activity, then it may be extremely risky for you to mark related locations. You should forget about the Walkingtools Gun Geo Marker in all such cases, and instead consider getting appropriate law enforcement agencies involved in the situation.

The last point is one that seems to negate the need for the app in the first place: if someone is using a gun in a dangerous (criminal) manner, call the police.

Here’s who the app makers want marked:

  • Note that while people who keep loaded firearms in their home should not necessarily have their location marked as a gun owner of concern, studies do show conclusively that guns in the home greatly increase the chances of death by gunfire for the owner, family members and visitors. This is especially the case with guns kept unlocked and loaded for “personal safety.”
  • First time gun owners or others who may not have not taken basic gun safety training, or who were not raised in a culture of gun safety, represent a real and present danger to their community, themselves and their family members. Their locations may be marked at any time. Bear in mind that these people are most often well meaning, thus as a concerned neighbor you might very well be able to educate them and therefore avoid marking their location.
  • A more obvious category of dangerous neighbor is someone who frequently displays or brandishes weapons, or those reveal their gun ownership status during normal conflict resolution. Such people are potentially a very serious concern, and the home or business locations of potential high conflict gun owners should be marked only when feasible. The same goes for any neighbor whose children speak frequently of their parent’s gun ownership, or who talk about guns as a potential tools for conflict resolution.
  • There are many locations, such as remote public or private lands where the discharge of firearms is legal. If you frequent such a location, you are likely a gun owner yourself and moreover, you probably have a strong interest in re-establishing safety standards at these sites.

And here are some options for marking gun threats in the app:

  • “Possible unlocked/loaded/unsafe storage”
  • “Possible insufficient training”
  • “Guns and unsupervised children”
  • “Guns and substance abuse”
  • “Possible medical related concern”
  • “Neighborhood talk, unsafe”
  • “Possible high conflict, armed neighbor”
  • “Possible out of place, large arsenal”
  • “Documented/frequent unlawful discharge”
  • “Possible illegal weapons on premises”
  • “Possible prohibited persons”
  • “Possible anti-government/terror threat”
  • “Other concern (describe)”

Perhaps a better—and less obviously made for and by people who dislike guns— version of the app would simply let people mark the locations of potentially dangerous people? Of course, an even better option would be for folks to mind their own business and focus on their own self-preservation and family protection without resorting to an app designed to spread gossip about gun owners.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • flashy

    Now its bad for gun owners to be known? Seriously ? Are they that afraid of being “outed” ?

    They want to have a dangerous weapon, yet don’t want people to know ? Then perhaps they shouldn’t push “open carry” , or attend rallies packin’ iron, etc if they are ashamed …
    Myself? I’m downloading the app. Seems like its a very useful and informative program … Much like the app highlighting those convicted of sex crimes living in the area.

    • Tommy cunningham

      You a dumba** flashy! Put me that app! Knock on my door demanding me to give up my liberty, well I’ll have to fix my door! Lol

      • Tommy cunningham

        Flashy, you would have been known as a TORY back during the revolution for independence from Britian.

      • flashy

        Tommy … I take it you’re a dangerous gun owner ?

        I’ve stated all along, if you own a dangerous weapon which has its only reason for existence being violence, then you should be responsible. A firearms training course which included situational awareness training and a showing you pass, ability to break down and put together your weapon, safety and knowledge of law and what happens if you pull your weapon and/ or use it.

        Concealed weapon permits should be difficult to obtain, usually for work related only purposes. No open carry. Restriction on magazine capacity. And certainly heavy licensing requirements for assault type and non hunting type rifles and shotguns. Any sale except to a relative requires a background check and noted weapon type and reg. number to be held by seller and records kept by seller for one year. And if the gun was sold illegally and used in commission of a crime, the seller held to the standard of jail time.

      • Tommy cunningham

        Flashy I’m highly trained in useing firearms spent 8 years in army, 2/325 a.i.r in 82nd, and yes I am highly dangerous to those who attempt to beak the law and take my life, liberty or property. The only reason I own any weapons…AR15, 308 assault rifle. “Both with several 30 rounds clips”. 12 gauge, and a 45. Is to defend myself. If a man breaks into my house, whatever the reason. “Should have knocked” he will not make the mistake again. I do not have these weapons for sportsmanship, hunting or collecting…. They are simply a tool to protect one’s self, family and yes neighbors. My neighbor has several weapons also, he knows to call me if need backup and vice versa. As a freeman I have the right to protect my life, liberty, and property… I do not need to ask permission to do so as it is a natural right im born with. This right does not derive from goverment, it’s not theirs to give or take, I was born with this right and it is protected within the 2nd amendment to insure governor won’t infringe upon it, I will never compromise on this liberty or any others. I am a honest peaceful man, don’t like violence, but won’t shy away from it to protect what’s mine from all.

        • flashy

          Then this app doesn’t target you nor do gun control laws. So why do you support bad guys, illegal gun sales, and prevent decent peaceful people the right to live without fear of gun toting wackos ?

      • Tommy cunningham

        What would be a illegal gun sale to you flashy? I have yet to buy a weapon of any sort from a store. The so called guns laws to prevent wackos from getting guns like the boy in Colorado or con. Won’t stop a person with evil intentions from following thru with them. All gun laws do is infringe upon those with the right intentions who are honest, trustworthy people. Laws inhibit the average person, not the criminal. If a person is intent on murdering innocent people don’t think they much care about breaking any laws to achieve their objective, so my way of thinking is Arm everyone and stop those with intent on harming life, liberty, and property dead in their tracks. There is no perfect solution, but Liberty is by far the best and most perfect .

        • flashy

          You aren’t calling for freedom or liberty. You’re demanding slavery to a gun.

          You want a dangerous weapon in your home, knock yourself out. You demand i become a slave to gun owners because you refuse to be responsible ? … Take a long walk off a short pier at high tide.

          Suck it up and be a man. Take responsibility. Frippin’ cowards is all the gun freaks are . Plain, simple fact

      • Tommy cunningham

        I’m not the one who’s scared flashy, not a coward either. Your not a slave to fun owners. Not forcing you to do anything, if a gun scares you, then don’t get one. However your try to make others slaves to you, by demand they give up their liberty and do as you want. It only makes you mad when you realize nothing will get us to compromise and give up the 2nd and refuse to be a slave to the likes of people like you. Yea I choose to have a dangerous weapon and refuse to compromise to make people like you happy. 9 out of 10 has a dangerous weapon in their house here, be a tough area to break in or do away with the 2nd. Not gonna be party to either. God bless America you spineless Anti-American!

      • scshute

        Flashy,

        The Newtown shooter reportedly violated 47 separate gun laws when he shot up Sandy Hook Elementary School. Connecticut had extremely harsh anti-gun laws on the books even before Sandy Hook – and now, they’ve been made even harsher.

        Chicago and Washington, DC have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, yet their violent crime and murder rates are sky high (to the point that one idiot Chicago State Representative wants to bring in the National Guard and institute Katrina-style Martial Law to stop the murders).

        Just how are those Gun Control laws working to keep “dangerous” weapons out of the hands of criminals?

        Seems to me that they are only keeping law-abiding citizens from acquiring the means to defend themselves from said criminals, allowing them to roam the streets with impunity…

    • http://yes Does itmatter

      You see flashy, you said it yourself. That all important word : convicted. Those “convicted” sexual predators. Gun owners are, for the vast majority, unconvicted of any crime, certainly none greater than a misdemeanor. Or they could not buy a gun legally. Gun owners are not guilty of anything by association or mere ownership. Go mark yourself as an unknowing fool who criticizes what he does not understand, how Philistine.

      • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

        I agree with you, but you know back in the old west they would give them what wad it 100. Dollars and a gun. Crime rate still wasnt that bad. Problem is, not enough people have guns.

  • Brent black

    Hopefully the whole US will be covered soon. Lol

  • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

    That will make us gun owners targets. How about we sell an app that lets people know what houses are safe to rob. Sound good

  • Tommy cunningham

    Put me on that list. I’m well trained, know my rights, will nit compromise them for dafety, security, or convienance and I’m prepared to defend them if needed.

    • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

      If they point out gun owners, we should.point out who don’t have home protection. Bet some of them people think about getting a gun then..lol

      • flashy

        Why ? Are you a dangerous gun owner ?

        • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

          As the article said, there is no way to know for sure. Which means anyone they know has a gun would be on the map. Dangerous..? Well if I feel threatened then hell yes.

  • Michael Whitis

    It seems to me that this app would make a great tool for thieves to find location where they could break in a steal valuable guns.

  • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

    How do ya think they would enjoy there address on map saying, no dogs no guns.

  • KDW

    Get the app and start marking every flashy you can find! Also every dimwit that voted for the current Administration!

    • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

      That sounds good, where to start.?

  • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

    These anti gun people kill me. They worry about guns in the wrong hands, but want to give the criminals a map to get more. How stupid.. I’ve always used gun safes, but nothing is a hundred percent.

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  • http://willieenfinger50@gmail.com willie E

    I’m fixing to see if their is a phone service that doesn’t have google. I can’t believe our country has come to this. Ever since that school shooting, and these morons got into office these people have gone crazy with fear. I’ve never seen anything like it. These stupid ass people are gonna be in for a surprise if we become a socialist country. Where can take what they want because they don’t want you to have it. Or you win a lottery and they come and, take all of your money. Wonder what they’re gonna say then. People scared asses doesn’t surprise me one bit. Really they are the ones that avoided going into the military to defend this country. Cowards, plain ass cowards. And google if you want to delete my google account go ahead you worthless ass people. You suck. Really what you want is to be buddy, buddy with the government. Go ahead. Your not the only internet service. I said that and, represent that. Just goes to show you I’m not scared of anyone, or thing.

    • flashy

      Except Willie, your entire post permeates your fear.

  • http://shadow1776.wordpress.com shadow1776

    You must be a democrap.. Over half the gin owners I know, were raised with guns and were military. I’ve had some of the best training you can get. But the Constitution says right to bear arms, because of tyranny. The Governments proved it can’t be trusted, and you want to limit the type of weapons and clips.? I say get a life.!

  • Takidez

    The only person who needs to know I own or carry a gun is the idiot who threatens me or my family. Your irrational fear causes you to believe restricting the Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens will somehow make you feel less threatened by criminals who, by definition don’t obey the law. Try some rational thought. I promise it won’t hurt a bit.

  • Larry

    Thieves will love this app. All they will have to do is wait until nobody is home or enter the home when they figure everyone is asleep, and seeing that they are bad guys they will be prepared to use deadly force before the occupants are aware they are under attack. Sounds like a lawsuit in the making and possibly charges of conspiracy to commit a crime. If anyone is injured or killed? These are foreseeable actions, to say that they ( the developers and marketeers ) have no control over the use after purchase would be BS.

  • Texas Compadre

    All gun owners should simply download the App and then begin marking “gun-free zones” and anti-gun zealots.

  • LEO

    Another senseless yet damaging attack on the Second Ammendment. The makers of this App…Huge law suit headed your way. This App is like making a Meagan’s Law map based on individual and group opinions. I just decided every person who lives in my neighborhood is a potential child abductor and molester so I’m going to post all of them on this fun little STUPID App!!! Law suit coming and hopefully JAIL time! I like a previous comment on this forum. All Pro 2nd Ammendment people download this vile App and list everyone around you as potential unsafe!!! Hey, great idea App makers! Not! Personally, I could not allow myself to stoop to their level but the comment rings true through my heart and soul as a red blooded AMERICAN. It seems to me more and more that citizens do not understand their rights, the Ammendments, history, true freedom and are becoming more damaging to all of us that do. We are in a very sad state of affairs my fellow Americans. My question is, how far will this nonsense go before we, as a Nation of people, are faced with the complete destruction of our Beautiful America? How much more can the Nation take? I don’t believe any of us are prepared for what is to come because I believe it will be beyond our comprehension of any event we know of in history. Scares the heck out of me because there is no way to prepare for a never before acted out event. May God be with us.

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  • hea0194

    Lets get the app mark every politican that is anti gun give the criminals 6 months and see how many are crime victims and new gun owners call it a gun studies and get michael bloomberg to pay for the results donate to nra and take tax break.

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