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All Hail Hillary!

March 21, 2013 by  

All Hail Hillary!
Hillary Clinton came out this week, saying she is for same-sex marriage.

According to The New York Times, it’s official: Former Secretary of State and presumptive 2016 Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has flip-flopped on support for same-sex marriage. In the annals of staged campaign events disguising a lack of principle, Clinton’s policy reversal is no President Barack Obama debt ceiling turnaround (it’s “unpatriotic”); but it’s certainly a hall-of-fame pandering effort. To be honest, I had no idea Clinton was ever against same-sex marriage. She clearly had no issues with a no-sex marriage. (Not that I can blame her for that; her husband was having enough for both of them.)

Let’s be honest with each other, kiddies. Clinton’s announcing she is now for something that most Americans already assumed she supported is about as Earth-shattering as Michelle Obama coming out publicly in favor of junk food and the taxpayers’ American Express card. Clinton’s statement didn’t — couldn’t — deliver her any wavering support. And it’s difficult to imagine all that many conservatives saying: “I was pretty mad about that whole Benghazi nightmare. And I remember what a Lady MacBeth she played as a first lady. But if she thinks Steve and Frank can tie the knot, I guess I’m good.”

There is no doubt that same-sex marriage is one of the more bitterly contested issues in the country. While it doesn’t rise to the level of the debate over the government-subsidized genocide of abortion, it’s difficult to imagine many issues on which Americans disagree more sharply. My own attitude is based on my own experience: I’ve been divorced. I’m as useful in marital politics as I would be in outer space. Nonetheless, if Hillary feels a need to goose her base three years before the green flag, she’s welcome to it.

But, in watching her weirdly fireside-style address, I couldn’t keep the following thoughts at bay:

  • This is a campaign speech. Of all the issues pressing down on us as a Nation and a world, you’re yammering about same-sex marriage. Your former boss has shoveled so many IOU’s onto the national debt that it’s the size of a Martian volcano. Any thoughts, Madame Secretary?
  • Your tenure as the Nation’s chief diplomat has coincided with everything from a nuclear-ambitious Iran to a nuclear-accomplished North Korea. The Mideast is tearing at the seams. How will you steer the ship of state off the foreign rocks upon which Barack Obama has foundered it?
  • How about the resurgence of al-Qaida and the islamofascist terrorists who think Obama is about as scary as Winnie the Pooh?
  • Europe’s economy is plunging faster than Ashley Judd’s neckline. Our own is staggering like a punch-drunk prizefighter. Will your Presidency be as filled with monetary hijinks?
  • With apologies to Senator Howard Baker, what did you know about the events of Sept. 11 in Benghazi, Libya; and when did you know it? Your former boss’s Administration concocted no fewer than four different versions of the story, each radically different from the others. While the corporate media has covered up the cover-up and the liberal rank and file have swallowed each tale whole without complaint; you’re now running for President. How can we trust you, since we clearly can’t trust Obama?

There are other questions Clinton will need to answer — unless she plans to continue the Obama policy of obfuscation and outright dishonesty. As I mentioned in the wake of her staged policy reversal on same-sex marriage:

Whatever your opinion on the issue in question, have no doubt: Hillary Clinton’s… every move is dictated by raw ambition. For those who oppose it: This is just another example of the soullessness which has defined her career. For those who support it: She is no ally of yours. As always, she will reverse course again the moment she thinks it’s politically expedient to do so.

Reminds me of, well, pretty much every Democrat out there — although none of them can match Clinton’s look in a pantsuit.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Harold Olsen

    “All Hail, HIllary!”?? I prefer, “Go to hell, HIllary!”

  • krc

    I fully support gay marriage. Its time to stop the bigotry and persecuting of gays.

    • Ralph Land

      why is gay marriage so important in a time when nobody gets married any more?
      I say we give them their own state and since they won’t be able to multiply we will be rid of them .

      • krc

        Has a gay person done something to you? How successful was your marriage?

    • Butch

      Should pedophiles be allowed to marry children? If not, why are you persecuting pedophiles? Pedophiles, just like gays, claim “they just can’t help it”. So one is championed and the other, reviled. If gays want to shack up or have the same rights as married couples do in re: to insurance or hospital protocols, I’m sure no one would mind. BUT gays are trying to CHANGE the DEFINITION of marriage to serve their perverse desires. NO. I don’t EVER have to recognize such a perverse liason. The ONLY bigotry or oppression is coming from the Left as they try to drag all of society into their cesspool of what they THINK is so great.

      • Brad in TX

        Amen brother Butch!

      • krc

        There are more straight pedophiles than gay I’m ex military and knew many enlisted men who boasted of the young girls they bought. How pure are you?

      • phideaux

        “There are more straight pedophiles than gay…”

        Of course there are. With 95%+ of the population being straight it is to be expected that there are more straight pedophiles than homosexual pedophiles. That said years ago I saw studies that indicated the percentage of homosexuals that were pedophiles was much higher than the percentage of straight people that were.

      • Ted Crawford

        How can anybody who accepts the arguements for Same Sex Marriage, without admitting hypocracy, not also, by the same logic(?) , grant the same freedom to the practitioners of Polygamy, Necrophilia, and Objectophoilia?

      • Vicki

        Butch writes:
        “So one is championed and the other, reviled.”

        Perhaps because one is consensual and the other isn’t?

    • Wil

      Don’t you get tired of being a pawn of a political agenda that will throw you under the bus just as soon as they get what they want? Their overreach in insisting on marriage and involvement in grade schools is doing nothing but creating more animosity towards you. Some of them are waking up to the facts. If you ever get tired of being a tool, look up gays against the gay agenda.

      • krc

        Well if your gays can’t be Christian I will disagree and if you want to back your argument with the Bible then you must agree people who have divoeced and remarry are adulterers.

  • Sgt. York

    All Stand its the Queen HillBilly chief flipper and bi wannabe President. Sorry folks its a no go

    • jopa

      Sgt Dork; Just because they are from Arkansas doesn’t make them hillbillies.I would like to know what amount, if any education you have had.

      • Dennis48e

        jopa get your facts straight. Hillary IS NOT from Arkansas she is a “better than thou” yankee from Illinois. Bill is from Arkansas and he is a hillbilly and redneck and he gives both a bad name.

  • Kurt Sinks

    Hillary can never win unless she visits Pelosi’s plastic surgeon. Nawww even that can help.

  • Warrior

    I would think the “little spawn” would be sufficiently “prepped” by 2015 to run for office as well. American “leadership”. It’s a family affair. I’ll bet the “clintons” probably have an excellent “tailor” to tweak those suits for the “little one”.

  • dan

    Benghazi…. she had her 3AM call and slept through it

    • Brad in TX

      you mean she was passed out drunk when the 3 AM call came in and failed to hear it

      • Carlucci

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      • Karolyn

        Carlucci – All that can be said, and you’re talking about her hair? Which, btw, is extremely thick naturally curly and coarse – very difficult to deal with.

  • Bob666


    • Hedgehog

      Good grief Bob666, you’re yawning all the time. I told you man, coffee will wake you up! One cup in the morning, and a cup here and there through the day will stop the yawns!

      • Wil

        He just yawns because trying to understand adult conversations tires his small mind out.

  • Ted

    [comment has been edited] herself and is playing house the flashers wife….

    • krc

      Perhaps she is but shes got more spine and bite than those useless impotent republicans

    • s c

      Ted, whether or not Billary [comment has been edited]. She is a hardcore utopian. Billary is OLD, and she’s getting older. She thinks a great deal of herself, and THAT is an extreme liability in a so-called ‘leader.’
      ANY wannabe ‘leader’ who “justifies” her official position by saying “What difference does it make!” is N O leader. She is a has-been. She’s a utopian. She may be paranoid – much like Bubba Klinton. Why the flying ____ would anyone in his or her right mind want ANOTHER Klinton in the W H – let alone in Washington?
      I wouldn’t trust Billary to take out the cat. Forget leadership. Billary, Bubba Klinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, Biden and all the rest of those schizoid, career criminals are not fit for office.
      I heard the Iranians need some volunteer toilet cleaners. I have a long list of potential ‘volunteers’ for that task.
      Yes, Billary is on that list. Mayeb she’ll convert, as long as her wacko femiNazi views don’t get in the way. Then again, the Muslim world did find a way to side with Hitler in WWII (utopians can look it up).

      • Karolyn

        OLD??? She’s ONLY 66!

  • 45caliber

    Despite her comment that she is not going to run for President next term, I suspect this is an early move to get a voting block on her side. And is Michelle going to run as her Vice President. Or is it the other way around?

  • DaveH234

    Who was the current Republican Senator who has flipped his opposition for gay rights because he discovered his son was gay?>??!!!
    How long did it take him to figure that out??
    I assume he has some level of relavent intelligence and he was blinded of something so close to him???

    • krc

      What would you do if your chld was gay disown them? What a guy!

    • Karolyn

      Not all gays are effeminate; and not all effeminate men are gay.

  • R.F.

    If she runs Hilary will, in fact, be the next President. So far the GOP is presenting to us yet another collection of clowns as seen at the recent conference they held.

    • realman

      “TURKEY…huhum…you’ll have to excuse me I’m suffering from memory loss”

    • krc

      I agree the republican party has nothing to offer up

    • STEVE E.

      I agree also. Whoever runs for the Democrat party in the Presidential election, whether it’s Hillary or not, is going to win the election. The Repubs will never learn and will have another RINO looser running for Pres. As for Hillary lying about Benghazi (and she did), that would not matter to Democrat voters because they cannot comprehend in their minds what really happened. And they really don’t care. Ever seen a Democrat concerned about Benghazi? I sure haven’t.

      • alpha-lemming

        Afraid it’s more dire than that……. leftists ARE aware and their record is rife with amoral behavior…. the constituency responds not with condemnation but rather praise and resume enhancement… the worse the transgression, the bigger the rock-star the perp becomes. I’ll offer as exhibits A, B, C and D…. Bubba “perjurer-rapist-serial harrasser” Clinton, Teddy “manslaughter” Kennedy, Barney “cathouse” Frank, and Bobby “KKK” Byrd….. lefty rock-stars everyone of ‘em. Gerry Studds just popped into my head as well. And they wonder why we’re so uncompromising…..???? maybe because we refuse to participate in the celebration of the pathological…???

      • krc

        Ever see a republican concerned about the wife and kids for example David vitter

        • Brad in TX

          wow, one republican or conservative comes to your mind, yet there are 100′s of liberal democrats that could come to any of our minds.

      • Karolyn

        Republican sex scandals 1989-2009. There have been more sinced ’09.

      • R.F.

        Was Benghazi a riot, a demonstration, a planned attack, or a protest that got out of hand? Does it actually matter in the least?

        • Brad in TX

          yes it matters ass nine! 4 Americans are dead, all survivors have been hidden from public an told to be quite. And Washington lied and covered up the cover up!! Idioto!

          • R. Fine

            So which was it: a riot, a planned attack, a protest that got out of hand or a violent demonstration? The result was the same – 4 dead Americans in a gun toting, violent, lawless part of Lybia hundreds of miles from the capital city. One wonders what the ambassador was even doing there and what of the secret C.I.A. base just a block away from the consulate? It will be yeas before we know the details of what was going down that day.

  • jopa

    Yes here she is yammering about same sex marriage with all pressing issues of the world today, like” White House tours” that the Republicans are fighting for, should I say religiously.I will always cherish the moment when Rand Paul was asking her about arms going through Turkey to Iran.She looked at him as though he were a snot nosed little kid and said “TURKEY”.That said it all there how incompetent and clueless he really is.I guess he had heard the phony Turkey scenario on Breitbart and sucked it up as fact.

    • realman

      “TURKEY…huhum…you’ll have to excuse me I’m suffering from memory loss”

      • jopa

        really man: Refresher.It was during the Benghazi hearings when Paul came up with his TURKEY blunder.At least he stayed away from rambling on about Alice in Wonderland as in the filibuster.

  • toledojim

    I think Senator Portman outed Hillary on this issue. He one-upped her, and the Clintons don’t like it.

  • ToughGuy1

    Is Hillary bipolar?

    • Mike in MI

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      • krc

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  • Mike

    I have to say this because it needs to be said. I am a Christian and I am opposed to gay “marriage”. I am one of five male siblings, two of which were gay. I loved all of my siblings equally, and was equally proud of each. Two of my straight siblings divorced, while my two gay siblings built great lives with their significant others. I have been married for 40 years. I have seen firsthand the problems caused when one life partner falls ill or dies, not to mention the unfairness regarding living tax breaks, joint ownership, after-life decisions and more. The remedy is there and is simple, and always has been. “Marriage” is a Christian religious right and symbol, and always has been. Marriage in the Christian Bible is defined as between one man and one woman. When Jews are “circumcised”, it is a religious tradition. If a now Jew has foreskin removed it is an “foradermal-excism”, and does not make it a “circumcision. Gays who wish to join in non-traditional lifetime unions deserve the exact same rights as traditional unions. The only difference should be that Christian traditional couples engage in “marriage”, and non-traditional couples engage in a lawful “Civil Union”. I don’t know of anyone who would not respect the law written that way to protect the interests of non-traditional life partners. If any gay wants simply to impose their beliefs over Christian beliefs and insist on “Marriage” as the only option, then they are more about changing Christianity than they are about equal rights. All Kleenex are facial tissues, not all facial tissues are Kleenex. There’s a difference – Just sayin’…

    • krc

      Well if your gays can’t be Christian I will disagree and if you want to back your argument with the Bible then you must agree people who have divoeced and remarry are adulterers.

    • Karolyn

      It’s just a word.

      • krc

        Its still a sin according to the bible

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      French homosexuals demonstrate against same-sex ‘marriage’.

      “…a million people marched in Paris last Sunday (January 2013) and at French embassies around the world against proposed legislation that would legalize same-sex marriage in France. One of the surprises in the French campaign for traditional marriage is that homosexuals have joined pro-family leaders and activists in the effort.”

      “Xavier Bongibault, an atheist homosexual, is a prominent spokesman against the bill. ‘In France, marriage is not designed to protect the love between two people. French marriage is specifically designed to provide children with families.’”

      The 66 year-old Jean-Dominique Bunel, a specialist in humanitarian law told Le Figaro he “WAS RAISED BY TWO WOMEN”
      “As soon as I learned that the government was going to officialize marriage between two people of the same sex, I was thrown into disarray,” he explained. It would be “institutionalizing a situation that had scarred me considerably. In that there is an INJUSTICE that I can in no way allow.”

      “Wickedness proceeds from the wicked.” (I Samuel 24:13)

  • Karolyn

    Not as “bitterly contested” an issue as Ben would have us believe. All reports I’ve been hearing lately are that the tide is turning. More polls are showing people to be accepting of gay marriage at a greater percentage.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Karolyn, you’ve been hearing the DEMONcratic reports.

      Less than one year ago (in May, 2012) North Carolina passed the amendment to BAN gay “marriage” with 61% to 39% against. North Carolina became the 30th state to adopt such a ban on gay marriage.

      In spite of that in the final days before the vote, members of the Kenyan Fraud’s cabinet expressed support for gay “marriage” and former President Bill Clinton recorded phone messages urging voters to oppose the amendment.

      At that time the Governor of NC was Democrat.

      [comment has been edited]
      Alondra, the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity and Idiocy

    • S.C.Murf

      K the bible says that in the last days evil gets bolder, one only has to look around and see that it is indeed fact

      up the hill

      • krc

        Gays are not evil how about useless men who don’t pay child support or beat their wives or who’re. Around. That’s evil and I’m sure you associate with some

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        krc aka Karolyn, Homosexuality is a sexual perversion. You want to overwrite the God’s standards and values, because you are an image of your god – Satan.

        The God’s Word says: Homosexuality is the SIN. Any sin is EVIL.

        I am choosing to believe God’s standards of MORALITY, not yours and the perverts like you.
        God says: “You SHALL NOT lie with a male AS WITH a woman; IT IS AN ABOMINATION/ DETESTABLE/ REPUGNANT/ DISGUSTING/ REVOLTING” (Leviticus 18)

        “That is why God abandoned them to THEIR SHAMEFUL DESIRES. Even the women turned AGAINST THE NATURAL way to have sex and instead indulged in SEX WITH EACH OTHER. And the MEN, INSTEAD OF HAVING NATURAL SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN, BURNED WITH LUST FOR EACH OTHER. MEN DID SHAMEFUL THINGS WITH OTHER MEN, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved” (Rom.1:26, 27)

        “For you may be sure of this, that everyone, who is SEXUALLY IMMORAL or IMPURE … has no inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and God. LET NO ONE DECEIVE YOU with vain words, for because of these things the WRATH OF GOD COMES UPON THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE. Therefore DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THEM … WALK AS CHILDREN OF LIGHT, PROVING WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE LORD. TAKE NO PART IN THE WORKS OF DARKNESS, BUT INSTEAD EXPOSE THEM.” (Ephesians 5:3-11)

        “…as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to SEXUAL IMMORALITY and gone after strange flesh, are SET FORTH AS AN EXAMPLE, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE” (Jude 7)

        But even if you do not believe in God, the Law of the Nature tells you that HOMOSEXUALITY is UNNATURAL/ABNORMAL/ANOMALOUS behavior.

        “The PLEASURE IS TO BE NATURAL that arises out of the INTERCOURSE BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN; but that the INTERCOURSE OF MEN WITH MEN, or of women with women, IS CONTRARY TO NATURE, which was originally due to UNCONTROLLED LUST.” – Plato (Plato’s dialogues “Laws”)

        “The male-female sex causes PLEASURE BY NATURE, while same-sex sex is ‘UNNATURAL’.” – Plato, the world’s most influential Ancient Greek Philosopher, who is taught in ALL Universities at the Faculty of Philosophy.

        krc aka Karolyn, Homosexuality is Psychological Pathology – abnormal behavior, emotion and thoughts.

        Homosexuality is a MENTAL DISORDER.

  • krc

    i dont consider ted the conditions you described as healthy oe normal but i do understand people who fall in love with members of the same sex.[comment has been edited]

  • krc

    Look people it comes down to this if you don’t agree with marriage equality don’t marry someone of the same sex. But don’t deny two committed people the right to happiness

  • jopa

    Just in:A poll was just taken in Florida and Hillary would beat both Rubio and Jebb Bush by more than 10 points.She has a 65% approval rating.”Hillary Rocks”.

    • tncdel

      So do Muslims stoning a woman to death. But America would be better off with no rocks thrown by Hillary.

    • Brad in TX

      [comment has been edited] 3.5 years is a long time for more disaster to happen within Democratic establishment. And there are no polls showing Rand Paul or Dr. Carson. Like I said 3 and half years is a long time for liberal constitution killers to hang themselves

    • krc

      Sh does rock and she scares the heck out the guys on this web sight go hillary

  • tncdel

    Gay marriage is an impossibility by definition. By definition, marriage is solely between a man and a woman.

    And a homosexual man has the EXACT SAME RIGHT under the Constitution as does a heterosexual man, no more, no less, to marry a woman. But the fact that he does not wish to avail himself of that right, which is certainly his prerogative, doesn’t create for him another right; namely: to change the heterosexual definition of marriage handed down to us by our ancestors.

    Someone posturing about “gay marriage” is sailing under a false flag built upon an invalid premise.
    And what they are really talking about is changing the heterosexual definition of marriage to include something else.

    I’m not into mysticism, so I have no religious axe to grind against homosexuals. Let each state decide as to whether or not it allows homosexual civil unions with the same legal obligations as a marriage. Just don’t call it something it’s not. And if homosexuals don’t like the sound of the term “civil union,” fine, they should invent their own word for their own type of relationships. Surely they don’t lack enough imagination to do that, right?

    • krc

      No gays do not have the same rights have you read the post of these frightened little men on this web sight do you think gays can do any nor harm to marriage than straight people have done?

  • Anthony

    “Hillary Clinton came out this week, saying she is for same-sex marriage.” That is hilarous Nice Play on words.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Just listen this: No achievement recognitions. Equality for everyone if you want the collective “salvation”

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    The marriage is God’s Creation, His PERSONAL WORK. God’s definition of MARRIAGE IS ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN – and this bond should be for life. (Gen.1:27; 2:7, 18-25; 5:1)

    1) God created man and woman one for other.
    “27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” (Genesis 1:27)

    “18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him…He brought her [woman] to the man…” (Genesis 2:18)

    2) Man breaks his bond with his parents and bonds with his WIFE. Their relation is glued. HUSBAND and WIFE no longer two, but ONE FLESH:

    “24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be JOINED TO HIS WIFE, and THEY SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH. 25 And they were both naked, the MAN and HIS WIFE (not his husband), and were not ashamed.” (Genesis 2:24-25)

    3) God BLESSED MARRIAGE ONLY AND ONLY between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN — HETEROSEXUAL COUPLE. Only HETEROSEXUAL COUPLE can produce offspring– have children.
    “ 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; MALE and FEMALE He created them. 28 Then God BLESSED THEM, and God said to them, “Be FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY” (Genesis 1:27, 28)

    “In the day that God created man, He made him in the likeness of God.2 He CREATED THEM MALE AND FEMALE, and BLESSED THEM and called them Mankind in the day they were created.” (Genesis 5:1-2)

    4) Jesus confirms the strength of the marriage unity: What God has joined, NO MEN SHALL SEPARATE. (Mt.19:4-6)

    Even if you’re an atheist, the UNITY of MAN & WOMAN is absolute TRUTH of the Law of Nature as well.

    The homos are using their bodies not for what they were designed. It does not matter if you believe in the Creation or evolution, the Human body was not created for the sexual perversion.

    The Homosexual behavior is UNNATURAL, IMMORAL and UNHEALTHY.

    FAMELY = MARRIAGE = ONE MAN + ONE WOMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!

    • R. Fine

      Why does god create gay people?

      • Brad n TX

        Part freak of nature part brought up by two gay women break done of traditional family

        • R. Fine

          No, but why did god create gayness in the first place? God did create everything according to you right? Why gayness?

          • Brad n TX

            Man it is not a perfect work if it was you would not be bothering me with that silly question

          • Brad n TX


          • R. Fine


          • R. Fine

            Why would you find my question silly? Is it because you can’t come up with an answer? Do you not believe that god created everything? If he did then he must have created gayness. And if god is perfect (you believe that too don’t you?) then gayness can’t be bad.

          • Brad n TX


          • R. Fine

            Ooooo… scary. You can not answer the most simple question so you call me Satan. God created it all right? You believe that right? And god is perfect right? So seeing as god created the world and everything in it which includes gayness then gayness can’t be bad. But you know what shrinks tell us? Folks who fear gayness the most and who condemn it the loudest are actually the ones who question their own sexuality. Anything you want to tell us Brad? [Now you're not going to answer by calling me Satan again are you Brad? That's getting a bit boring. Can't you say anything the least bit interesting? Or why not just answer the questions?]

          • Brad n TX

            No you idiot satan was my answer to your stupid question. It is not always about your queers, get over it

          • R. Fine

            Who created Satan? Your god who created the entire cosmos and everything in it?

            And, by the way, a one word reply can be interpreted in different ways. Try full sentences.

          • R. Fine

            And why would god allow Satan to create gayness if god thinks gayness is so horrible? I think it’s kind of stupid. In fact why create Satan in the first place? Just for god’s own amusement or what?

      • Stuart Shepherd

        So the rest of us can know how blessed we are to be straight when we see how COMPLETELY DISGUSTING they act!!! Also, we can be glad [offensive comment removed]

        • R. Fine

          Wow, you seem awfully concerned about the sex lives of others. Maybe a little too involved in something that’s not really your business. In any case you actually didn’t answer my question that well. If homosexuality is so disgusting how come god created it?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Who said that God created homosexuals?

        God did not create Homos. You are parroting your god’s Satan LIES.

        I hope that you, R. Fine, are educated enough to know what pathology is.

        In medicine “PATHOLOGY” means the changes, which are occurring in the body’s organs.
        The word PATHOLOGY is from Ancient Greek πάθος, pathos, “FEELING, SUFFERING”
        Pathology addresses four components of disease: CAUSE, mechanisms of DEVELOPMENT (pathogenesis), morphologic CHANGES in cells, and the CONSEQUENCES of changes (clinical manifestations).

        The nutrition, life style and environment/conditions are the factors that are responsible.

        NUTRITION/Diet: Insufficient; Excessive; Unbalanced
        Life STYLE: Daily Regime; Exercise in-door & out-door; Hobbies
        ENVIRONMENT: Conditions & Surroundings; Climate

        But Homosexuality is PSYCHO PATHOLOGY.
        PSYCHO PATHOLOGY = Abnormal psychology is the branch of psychology that studies ABNORMAL, OUT OF CHARACTER patterns of BEHAVIOR, EMOTION and THOUGHT in a MENTAL DISORDERS.

        Homosexuality caused by ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, such as SURROUNDINGS, EDUCATION, child MOLESTATION, ABNORMAL FAMILY (an absent mother or affectionate father)

        According to two separated studies (University of Texas and Louisiana State University): “Study reveals that ADULT CHILDREN OF HOMOSEXUAL and lesbian parents experience far greater negative social, economic and emotional outcomes than children raised hetero families”

        R. Fine, here is the REAL FACT
        The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) published by the American Psychiatric Association provides standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders. And Homosexuality was included in the list of the Mental Disorders.

        But in 1970, homosexual, led by radical activists like Frank Kameny, began a PROGRAM OF INTIMIDATION aimed at the American Psychiatric Association (APA) and attacking many psychiatrists publicly with the goal to remove Homosexuality from the List of the Mental Disorders.

        “…what happened in 1973…referring to the widespread protests by the gay and lesbian community that led to the APA’s dropping homosexuality from the DSM” as a Mental Disorder. (The Advocate, 12-28-93, p.40)

        Under extremely forceful political pressure the APA’s board of trustees finally CAVED in to the demands of Homosexual activists and declared that Homosexuality is no longer Mental Disorder “according” to APA.

        But does it really means that Homosexuality is not Mental Disorder aka Mental PERVERSION and Sexual depravity?

        No, it does NOT. Homosexuality WAS, IS and ALWAYS will be Mental Disorder, because EVERYTHING that is unnatural and abnormal is a disorder. And there are many health and mental health professionals who maintain that HOMOSEXUALITY is a Mental Disorder.

        R. Fine, Do your research

        P.S. The Perverts tried too hard to find the “gay gene(s)”, but they failed, because the “Homo” gene(s) does NOT exist. God did NOT include it in DNA.

        “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

        People, spread the TRUTH, debunk the LIES.

        R. Fine, read my others comments.

        • R. Fine

          Medical science confirms that homosexuality happens naturally in about 20% of any given population. It may not be to your liking but then it’s actually none of your bee’s wax. But my question is why would god create homosexuality? According to folks like you god created everything so why create something disgusting according to you?

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Homosexuality just like Heterosexuality is based on love and commitment. If two homosexuals of legal age are in a committed relationship I see little to no difference between them and two heterosexuals of legal age in a committed relationship. Life is about what makes our souls feel whole. What fills our life with joy. A committed relationship between two homosexuals of legal age does no harm to anyone. It involves no physical or mental harm against heterosexuals. Though in the case of emotional harm perhaps heterosexuals may inflict it on themselves due to misunderstanding. A person is either heterosexual or homosexual or both. I have friends who are homosexual. Their relationships and sexual orientation pose no threat to me or my relationships.

      Homosexuality is no more a perversion than any thing heterosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes. And if family requires one man and one woman married does that mean that when parents divorce the family stops being a family.

      A marriage and a family are about love and commitment. Sexual orientation has no bearing on ones capacity for either of those things. A homosexual is no more and no less loving and committed to their partners than a heterosexual.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Jeremy says: “Homosexuality just like Heterosexuality is based on love and commitment.”
        Satan’s LIE!!! It’s not “love”. It’s LUST.

        Jeremy, “You are of your father the devil, and the DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does NOT STAND IN THE TRUTH, because THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaks a LIE, he speaks from his own resources, for HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT.” (John 8:44)

        “[Y]ou once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the DESIRES OF THE FLESH AND OF THE MIND, and were by nature CHILDREN OF WRATH, just as the others.” (Ephesians 2:2-3)


        “Now the end has come upon you, and I will send My anger against you; I WILL JUDGE YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR WAYS, and I WILL REPAY YOU FOR ALL YOUR ABOMINATIONS. My eye will not spare you, Nor will I have pity; But I will repay your ways, and YOUR ABOMINATIONS WILL BE IN YOUR MIDST; Then you shall know that I am the LORD!’” (Ezekiel 7:3-4)

        “Then the devil, who had deceived them, was thrown into the FIERY LAKE of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the FALSE PROPHET. There THEY WILL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOREVER AND EVER…15And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:10, 15)

        Jeremy, you were born with FREE will.
        Your Choice.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Yes Alondra I was born with free will. That free will leads me to choose to base my views on the gay people I know. The ones who are kind and decent. Who I see expressing love not lust to each other. I choose to believe that over someone who seems to assume that homosexuality is nothing more than lust. Take it from me it isn’t. I have worked with more than a dozen gay people. They have come in all shapes, colors and sizes. But one thing they have never been is lustful sinners. It remains my firm belief that homosexuality is no more an abomination than heterosexuality.

  • jopa

    I am not for gay marriage myself, however I would not deny that right for others.Our Forefathers came to this country to get away from prejudice, persecution and religious freedom. For me to be against their wishes would not be very American like.To me it is just another freedom some religious zealots want to be in control of.Just be careful when you go and shake that snake next Sunday.

  • Stuart Shepherd

    “My own attitude is based on my own experience: I’ve been divorced. I’m as useful in marital politics as I would be in outer space.”- What? (does THAT mean).

  • CHthacker

    I am not a proponent for it either and can not encourage the legalization of it. If someone wants to live this way what can a person do to discourage them? I do not know. I really do not know because this society now portrays everything as alright. Do as you will, seems to be a popular idea of the way people want to live their live in this day and age. Although it is NOT a new idea many feel that this is the new age freedom. Well it is as old as time and will do nothing but hurt us all. It is sad and I really wish things were different. Yet I do think that marriage should be held for only same sex couples. Freedom of speech and the right to bear arms are under threat right now but at the same time all I hear is gay rights?! Well I think we need to fight for the rights we have and are being threatened of loosing before we ask for others.


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