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Alabama Legislator Wants Guns In The Workplace

November 27, 2012 by  

Alabama Legislator Wants Guns In The Workplace
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An Alabama legislator is pushing previously proposed legislation that would make it legal for employees to carry and store handguns at work for protection.

State Senator Roger Bedford (D-Russellville) said his bill will increase the safety of Alabamians working at private businesses as well as when they’re traveling to and from work.

The bill, which has failed in the past despite support from the National Rifle Association, aims to prevent employers from barring their employees from transporting and storing guns during work hours on company property. It would also mandate that those who opt to bring a firearm to work keep it locked away and out of sight. The bill doesn’t provide for guns to be allowed on school campuses or anywhere else where they are already prohibited by Federal law.

According to The Montgomery Advertiser, the Business Council of Alabama has opposed the measure.

The group’s president, Bill Canary, said in an interview: “At a time when the business community in all sectors should be focused on creating jobs, we instead are dealing with this unnecessary legislation which erodes the constitutional property rights of businesses. Alabama businesses are already struggling with burdensome regulations that impact productivity and increase costs.”

Some supporters of the measure, however, have pointed out dismal crime statistics in Birmingham (the State’s largest city) as an example of why the bill could benefit Alabamians. In 2011, there were 54 murders, 182 cases of rape, 1,011 robberies and 1,916 aggravated assaults recorded in the city, earning it No. 7 among the Nation’s top 25 most dangerous cities. About 15 violent crimes took place per 1,000 Birmingham residents that year.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • phideaux

    Excellent article although I can see the hackles rising on the anti-gun bunch already.

  • http://whatreallyhappened.com NetRanger

    What? If crime is high don’t we want to BAN guns to keep them away from the criminals? Isn’t that what is usually proposed? What I want to know is would the business council think it was “unecessary legislation” if the measure banned guns instead of promoting their use? I bet they would not. The member speaking out is simply brainwashed by anti-gun propaganda that is pervasive in this society of sheople.

    The fact is most people, business people, politicians and people that are outspoken about guns and the keeping and bearing of arms are ignorant on the subject. They try and act like a chimpanzee at a nuclear generating station. The relatively few facts have been marginalized and subsequently replaced by liberal media and progressive demogogues. They are this:

    We have a Creator given right (A common, pervasive, all encompassing law) to keep and bear arms that existed before any institution on this planet.

    The reason for this is that when you limit the right of people to defend themselves, you’re part of the problem in that you are promoting the power of evil over the people.

    The fact is, when you have psychopaths that gravitate into positions of power (“business council” and “state legislative bodies”) they see the independent ability to defend ones self as a reduction in their own power. Anyone that spew the garbage line about promoting safety by promoting bun bans is full of the highest quality male bovine extrement and should immediately be escorted to the garden so they can promote the production of food and fiber.

    Guns are banned because it makes police and government seem more powerful. I find it hilarious how the anti-gun morons so voiciferously defend gun bans because you can always call the cops. I mean, how strange is that? Deny PEOPLE the right to carry guns so you can then CALL THE ONES THAT DO CARRY GUNS? Huh?

    If gun posession is bad and promotes ciminal activity then cops shouldn’t carry them either. But, yet, the same people that want guns banned look at you like you’re got a second head when you bring it up.

    Its all about lies and propaganda designed to promote the states monopoly of violence: cops should be able to shoot, you should not. Society is more prosperous and safer when the average Joe is packing heat. The images and stories about Joe getting into unecessary conflicts are imaginary. Legal concealed or open carry by the general populace promotes safety and security in an UBER MASSIVE UNDENIABLE WAY. It does it so much so that governments is THREATENED by it.

    After all, if you provided your own safety and security, why would you want to pay those high taxes for cops that are always abusing, taxing, er, uh, ticketing and “donutting”? Those who argue differently are either tools enlisted by their ignorance or the user of those tools, that wish to maintain a weak and ever dependent population: government.

    • Kinetic1

      NetRanger,
      “We have a Creator given right” to own and carry a gun? How did I miss that in the Bible?

      • Average Joe

        Kinetic1 ,
        ““We have a Creator given right” to own and carry a gun? How did I miss that in the Bible?”

        You didn’t miss it in the Bible, however you may have missed it in the Declaration of Independence :
        “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. –Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. ”

        Or maybe you missed it in the Bill of Rights:

        “Right to keep and bear arms

        A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

        Rights come from God…you are born with rights….Rights cannot be taken away.
        Privleges come from Government…priveleges can be taken away at anytime.
        Protecting one’s self from harm….is a right….not a privelege….to believe therwise, is pure folly.

        AJ

    • eddie47d

      We will continue until eternity on this issue because these incidents will happens regardless if some has a gun at work or not. Most workplace violence comes from someone within the workplace (as opposed to a robbery). If an employee has a weapon and has intent to use it he will surely know who else has a weapon. So those concealed carry permits could make you more vulnerable and the first target of his action.

      • Average Joe

        “Most workplace violence comes from someone within the workplace (as opposed to a robbery).”
        Proof? Statistics? Anything other than your assertion?
        Until you provide your “proof” it remains…your opinion…and nothing more….as usual.

        AJ

      • eddie47d

        The same with your “opinions” AJ.

      • Average Joe

        eddie47d,
        That’s it? That’s all you have? Who are you, Pee Wee Herman? ” I know you are, but what am I?” Once again, you show us how childish you are. Rather than back up your claims with facts…act childish and change the subject…Who woulda thunk?….Only eddie

        AJ

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      The government doesn’t want anyone who can defend themselves, to use those means to over throw their immoral system of what they call government? LOL. I believe a person should be able to carry a weapon anywhere and at any time to protect ourselves from the criminals in the government and on the street.

      • Average Joe

        An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
        Robert A. Heinlein

        ’nuff said.

        AJ

  • Scott in SC

    I think transporting and keeping a firearm in your vehicle is fine, but carrying into a place of business should be up to the individual owner.

    • RP

      I somewhat agree with your idea of letting the employer setting policy about carrying weapons into the workplace, but think about shootings in Post Offices by employees. Had someone had a weapon in Colorado at the movie theater, there would not have been near the destruction. There were two colleges in Virginia that had shootings, at Va Tech and one in Grundy, Va. The difference was there was no way for anyone to stop the shooting at Va Tech, until the SWAT teams got there. The one in Grundy was stopped very shortly after it started, because one of the students had a pistol in his vehicle and threatened to shoot the perp where he stood if he did put down his weapon. Which one do you hear the most about?

    • JUKEBOX

      Tell that to the family of the teachers who were shot and/or killed at the college in Huntsville. The taxpayers of Alabama spent over $450,000 to protect the “RIGHTS” of the shooter.

    • WILDFIRE

      I’d like to suggest that these people who oppose the rights of other people to defend their self. To dissolve their own protection. Obama and Hilary and any other political figure has guns all around them for their protection via secret service and security guards and body guards. Why do they have the right to defend their life and that of their family and the average law abiding joe and his wife and daughters are not allowed to protect their self? Politicians claim they are honest law abiding citizens, why don’t they lay down their guns and expose them self to be vulnerable to the criminal minded person?

      Everyone is a target in this day and age, especially in this economy and this season regardless to if you have $20 or $2,000,000 to your name. In the old days, people that robbed gas station and 7/11′s and such would do so with hoods and not kill anyone for $20 – $100 bucks in the draw. Now a days they will kill for $20 bucks just to not leave any chance of witness to identify them.

      Now a days, more and more people are diagnosed with bi-polar disorders, and other mental disorders. I’ve read in multiple sources where statistics claim that 1 in every 3 Americans are on some form of mind altering medications claimed to be for depression, many of which are taking multiple meds to counter the side effects of the other meds all of which can and do effect their moods and ability to rational thinking.

      These political figures feel the need to protect them self from the crazies they have created through their actions and leave the average joe public defenseless.

      Anyone who thinks that banning and disarming the public will shut down the criminal from arming them self is an idiot.

      They banned drugs such as marijuana and cocaine and such. Did it stop its existence in this Country? No! it is more rampant in this Country than it ever has been and more dangerous. Now along with drugs goes the guns also because people already breaking the law to sell drugs are not concerned with breaking another law of carrying a gun.

      Lets just say for a minute that marijuana was legal to buy and sell. If it was legal their would be no reason or need to carry a gun just to sell it, on top of the ability to tax it and generate huge revenues from it. Now that don’t cure the problem with other serious drugs that shouldn’t be legalized, but my point is banning and making things illegal to have never stops the ones that are criminal minded or the ones who don’t respect or care to comply with the laws.

      Another example, copyright and piracy of music and movies. They can’t even control such things as piracy, There will always be people who erroneously and fraudulently make copies of copyrighted materials by which they cannot control. So what makes these twits think that making it illegal to carry a gun is going to stop the criminal minded from attacking and killing others?

      In fact, it will assist and motivate more people to commit crimes because the threat and fear of being attacked back is greatly reduced when they know their target is defenseless. There are some morons out there that say idiotic things such as “Well people should learn more hand to hand combat tactics to defend their self, or carry a knife for personal protection”. I say, go ahead and aggressively approach or pull that knife out when someone standing 100′ away from you pointing a gun at you with finger on trigger and get back to me to let me know how that worked out for you!

    • Average Joe

      Scott in SC ,
      You are Constitutionally correct in your thinking. The State and Federal government should have no involvement whatsoever. It should be up to the business owner to decide if he/she wishes to allow firearms on thier pemises. By the same token, it should be up to the individual, whether or not to work in an establishment that does or does not allow firearms…an individual choice.
      Personally, I wouldn’t work for a company that didn’t allow me to protect myself from potential harm…but that is my personal choice ( I am a land surveyor by trade in central Florida and have always carried on the job).

      AJ

      • eddie47d

        Alligators can be a problem!

      • Average Joe

        Not as much as snakes…..

      • Average Joe

        …and somtimes combative neighbors…..some of these folks don’t like anyone being on thier property…not even to do a survey.
        My guys have been drawn down on more than once by an irate neighbor. They are instructed to leave if possible and call me, I call the Sheriff for assistance.

  • The Big Easy

    Just think how many lives could have been saved if more citizens were able to carry concealed in that MASS MURDER incident at V.T. school. It should be like that bank in Texas that put a big sign in their window that states the customers who carry concealed are WELCOME and that some 8 employees also have weapons,I bet the criminals think twice before going into that bank to try to rob them !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that MASS MURDER at Fort Hood where the troops were NOT allowed to have their weapons on their person in that building where some 16 Brave Patriotic Military Warriors were MURDERED and some 35 others were wounded.These are people that are trained to go to WAR for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA in time of need,but the brass didn’t think they were able to have a weapon on them in that building? ? ? ? And to add insult to injury,the brass know that this muzzzzslime puke was a very high risk of going off the deep end.When you take away the RIGHT of the people to PROTECT themselves from the CRIMINALS,it will continue to be ‘OPEN SEASON’ on the LAW ABIDING Citizens,as they will NOT be able to DEFEND themselves from the criminals,and the criminals KNOW that.

  • DavidO

    As a law enforcement officer I support this legislation 100%! Gun free “safety zones” are only “safe” for an individual who desires to make a name for themselves by racking up a high body count without having to worry about any of their intended victims stopping them with justified lethal force of their own. As a resident and citizen of Alabama I’d like to see this passed. I cannot understand the mentality of those who are opposed to this.

  • Bob Rice

    I agree that guns should be allowed in the work place,but,NOT LOCKED UP.IF everyone was armed,there would be minimal bad guys on the streets.

  • Steve E

    In VA you can already have a firearm in the workplace. Many people have them. I have one in my office, and it’s not locked up. It’s locked and loaded.

  • Sirian

    As of November 1st. open carry went into effect here in Oklahoma. It’s now becoming quite common place to see a 1911 or a S&W sitting on an Okie’s hip. Mine included.

  • TML

    If the legislation actually forbids business owners from disallowing firearms on their business property then I would disagree with the legislation. If the legislation only decriminalizes carrying a firearm onto company property, while still leaving the business owner the right to forbid it, then I would support the legislation.

    Any company policy forbidding firearms on the premises should be just that; violation of internal policy subject to disciplinary action of that same policy. Not a felony offense.

  • hkaufman

    Why not put a tank and stealth in every home garage? Then go and find a rich load of plutonium and build a private nuclear plant, if that is not enough start a new reality show Guns,bullets,knives bombs and call it putting holes in other peoples country plus America.. Geez us man the nations people are becoming more Ignorant and stupid second by second,minute by minute, hour,by hour, week by week and lastly month to month. what does Columbine bring to memory…..

    • Nadzieja Batki

      OK, lady, if you don’t want to own a gun it is fine by us, and you are most welcome to keep your stupidity to yourself.

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