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Alabama Lawmaker Wants To Ban U.N. Observers

October 24, 2012 by  

Alabama Lawmaker Wants To Ban U.N. Observers
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Want proof that America has sunk to the level of a Third World banana republic? Four words: United Nations election observers.

The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), a U.N.-affiliated agency, will be observing the Nov. 6 U.S. election for election fraud and voter suppression. It will be on hand at the request of the NAACP, the American Civil Liberties Union, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, and other liberal organizations. The observers come from such bastions of free and fair elections as Serbia, Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan. OSCE has assessed elections in the United States since 2002. It somehow missed those Black Panthers guarding the doors in Pennsylvania in 2008.

The States of Missouri, South Dakota, North Dakota and New Mexico explicitly allow for international observers. Alabama House Speaker Mike Hubbard wants to make sure Alabama does not. Hubbard says he will push for future legislation to ban non-U.S. citizens from acting as poll watchers.

U.S. election laws already allow multiple parties — some affiliated with candidates and others who are part of interested groups — to observe the election process. One of those is True the Vote, a conservative, Tea Party-affiliated group. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, ACLU and Leadership Conference could monitor them as well. Of course, when you have a racist and highly partisan U.S. Attorney General like Eric Holder, it doesn’t matter how much fraud is uncovered. It’ll just get ignored when it doesn’t fit his agenda.

Foreign observers are redundant and unnecessary. The George W. Bush/Al Gore election of 2000 showed that the United States is perfectly capable of botching the election process on its own. It doesn’t need U.N. observers bringing their “botching” expertise into the mix.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • GALT

    Why not………the extra botch in 2000 would have achieved the “correct” outcome….

    • eddie47d

      PLD has been proclaiming voter fraud for over 3 years now so at least in their minds its a huge concern. So why be shocked or surprised by this UN action. You cry wolf long enough someone is bound to take action.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear eddie47d,

        You write: “PLD has been proclaiming voter fraud for over 3 years now…” Talking out of your hat again?

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://n/a DaleH

        The UN has no authority in any election in the US, and any organization that asks them in, to interfere in our American lives , should be shown the door to wherever they come from and the outfit that asked them to observe , should go the same way.

        This is The United States, the freedom center of the world, and will always be as long as we get rid of people like obama ,reid, and pelosi–and any Rinos and a few others that prefer the progressive (communist/muslim)way of life—The first step should be defunding the US ‘s payment to the UN and them closing the UN building in NY and sending the diplomats back to their home countries or wherever they want to go –as long as it is not the US–

        The US is not perfect, but is better than any other country in this world —-

      • eddie47d

        Not one bit Bob. Even you have brought up ACORN on several occassions,Chicago “thugs”,dead voters,threats at polling places and so forth. My hat is the same size Bob so please have a nice day.

      • eddie47d

        By the way Bob I’m also against having UN observers at any polling place in the USA and only made an observation on the issue.

      • DaveH

        Eddie,
        Please produce some evidence to back up your conjecture. The regulars know that you regularly make up “facts” out of whole cloth.

      • Robert Smith

        Awwww shucks, are you REALLY surprised that after all the screeching from the extreme right about voter fraud that it didn’t get heard?

        It’s the EXTREME RIGHT that has been screaming about voter fraud. Well, now there are some independent observers to look for it.

        Or, are you now going to claim that voter fraud isn’t thaaaaaaaaat much of a problem?

        ROFL… The hypocritical nature of the right shows up again.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Yada, Yada, Yada.
        After all these years on this board, the zealot Robert is still clinging to the Left/Right paradigm, while the Leaders take us to the cleaners.

      • Robert Smith

        Awwww Dave…

        Do you still deny the hypocritical nature of the right shows up again as they complain that voter fraud isn’t fought theeeeeeeir way?

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        I problem with Dave H is that he has been on this site for a few years so he knows exactly what gets said. Until he goes into complete denial and he has been doing that alot lately.

      • DaveH

        Sober up, Eddie, so we can understand you. Then at least you will issue understandable nonsense.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        eddie, teddy 47 ways to be a commie, the U.S. out of the UN and the UN out of the U.S. is what needs to happen so you lying commies can find another org. to carry your banner. You would have voted for Hitler eddie, teddy.

    • http://Yahoo JD

      This reply is not to Galt, or any one person. It is to every American citizen. You All better damn well forget about Repub, Dem, This is a very wrong and dangerouse presidant.Every American should write your representative immediatly, and tell them to DEMAND this total garbage,of the UN, or any other non American entitiy be allowed anywhere near our voting headquarters. I don’t give a damn who, what excuse, or half ass reason they have. YOU all stop and think, come on, this is OUR country. She is not being taken, were Giving her away bit by bit. Gradually over 60 or more years, and exelerating in a very short time. WE the People should never be arguing among each other on something very serious as this, and other Unconstitutional travesties of late. Please Lord, Bless and save America for us, Or in some cases from us all.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        JD, I understand your concerns.

        As a fellow patriotic American I disagree however with your assessment of the situation concerning election observers coming to the US via the OSCE, a UN recognized agency of the EU, as being a threat to our state. Here’s why.

        The US is an active member of the OSCE and the UN. We, by those treaty obligations, by the rule of law that that establishs for us and others, go into other states around the world to monitor and observe elections. We expect others to abide by the rule of law, whether those laws and rules are national or international. As a matter of fact, when they try to say that they do not want international observers in their states, we point out to them their treaty obligations and the fact that the rule of law must apply equally to all.

        So this then raises a moral and legal concern. Morally, our stand in opposition to having the OSCE observers monitor US elections is wrong. It’s not morally defensible for us to demand that other states abide by the rule of law and be held accountable by it then not expect the same of ourselves.

        Legally, we are a nation that promotes the rule of law as being the defining characteristic of a successfull constitutional republic. What are we telling the world when they see us refuse to abide by the rule of law to which we so forcefully subscribe to and demand that others follow our lead, then turn around and say that it doesn’t apply to us? Are we telling everyone in every state on earth in all our dealings with them, whether in election matters, trade, commerce, cooperation, military engagements, etc, “to do say I say, not as I do?”

      • http://katrael.wordpress.com Katrael

        timothywilliamson, the states are sovereign entities and the UN or any of their agencies have no business in the internal affairs of the states and issues surrounding voter fraud must be dealt by the state or the courts. Keep the UN out of our country and out of our business. You are not a patriot but a one world dupe.

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          Tell met this, is it right of the USA to demand that other nations follow the rule of law and abide by treaties? Are we the world beacon of truth and the rule of law? Why then should any state (nation) ever trust us again if we do not also abide by those very same rules and laws? What moral and legal authority could we stand on to justifiy a lack of accountability and responsibilty on our own part? What nation in their right mind would ever trust us in any thing to do with the rule of law, or treaties involving trade and commerce or in military alliances if we do not have the strength of character to do follow the very laws and rules we ask others to follow? How hypocritical, how arrogant is that?

  • Warrior

    This is not remarkable in any way. Here in ILL, demonrats have been watching the polls for the past 60 years!

    • http://Yahoo JD

      And they better keep it up. As Rebs should also. And All should insist.

      ” NO ” non American citizen has any right to be any where near our
      polls. This type of garbage, that is getting to being common,citizens have not even blinked an eye. WAKE UP! This tid bit IS NOT a little thing, it leads to more stomping on America. To many things have been
      greatly harmed Constitutionally, It just keeps getting easier. WAKE UP

      • Susan Atwood

        Check out what Texas has to say about this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      When I was a election judge in Colorado, had to call the police to remove demo-rats who were telling people how to vote, they are immoral, God hating idiots, the reason they booed God at their meeting of nazi’s this year.

  • steve

    Guns are what freedom is derived from and held onto with. Not the ballot box.

  • bob

    October 23, 2012

    Ambassador Daan Everts
    Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights
    Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe
    UI. Miodowa 10
    00-251
    Warsaw, Poland

    Dear Ambassador Everts:

    The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) will reportedly dispatch election observers to the State of Texas to monitor the November 2012 general election. While it remains unclear exactly what your monitoring is intended to achieve, or precisely what tactics you will use to achieve the proposed monitoring, OSCE has stated publicly that it will visit polling stations on Election Day as part of its monitoring plan.

    In April, you reportedly met with a group of organizations that have filed lawsuits challenging election integrity laws enacted by the Texas Legislature. One of those organizations, Project Vote, is closely affiliated with ACORN, which collapsed in disgrace after its role in a widespread voter-registration fraud scheme was uncovered. In September, a federal appeals court rejected Project Vote’s challenge to the State’s voter-registration regulations and allowed Texas to continue enforcing laws that were enacted to protect the integrity of the voter-registration process.

    According to a letter that Project Vote and other organizations sent to you, OSCE has identified Voter ID laws as a barrier to the right to vote. That letter urged OSCE to monitor states that have taken steps to protect ballot integrity by enacting Voter ID laws. The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States, where the Supreme Court has already determined that Voter ID laws are constitutional.

    If OSCE members want to learn more about our election processes so they can improve their own democratic systems, we welcome the opportunity to discuss the measures Texas has implemented to protect the integrity of elections. However, groups and individuals from outside the United States are not allowed to influence or interfere with the election process in Texas. This State has robust election laws that were carefully crafted to protect the integrity of our election system. All persons—including persons connected with OSCE—are required to comply with these laws.

    Elections and election observation are regulated by state law. The Texas Election Code governs anyone who participates in Texas elections—including representatives of the OSCE. The OSCE’s representatives are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place. It may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place’s entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE’s representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law.

    Sincerely,
    Greg Abbott
    Attorney General of Texas

    • Patriotism Reigns

      Great for Texas! I’m glad that Someone has enough Patriotism to stand up against Liberal intrusion. Who are these idiots that has any right to determine anything? I hope Texas Jails them when they break the law.
      This Nation has put up with enough dishonest, arm twisting, thuggery, chicago style politics.
      Let’s take our Country Back.

    • Robert Smith

      “ACORN, which collapsed in disgrace ”

      ACORN didn’t collapse in disgrace. It was pecked to death by ducks from the extreme right.

      The specific incident where they had INDIVIDUALS who didn’t do their jobs correctly and werer FIRED by ACORN were self reported by ACORN.

      My how the misiformation comes from the extreme right.

      Rob

      • Harry Quinn

        Truth. The endless parroting of talk radio “entertainers” by people who don’t have a clue what socialism, communism or any other -ism means is a major source of misinformation.

      • Fredo

        @Smith & Quinn, both of you are completely removed from reality. Acorn was a corrupt-to-the-bone disorganization. They needed to be exposed, just like your hero van jones, and Glenn Beck did just that. Why are you people living in the United States?? You do not belong here. Have you heard yet, that France is now officially socialist?? Yes..they are, so get yourselves over there as quickly as you can and never, ever step foot in America again. You two, and all U.N. officials, need to be kicked…and kicked Hard, out of the United States of America. Neither of you ‘fit’ here, so take your ridiculous way of thinking to France and be miserable over there. We are sick of the misery you bring to America. F.O.A.D.

      • Ted Crawford

        Neither Acorn nor the unabashed racist Bertha Lewis has collapsed! Instead, as is often the case with viral diseases it has mutated! According to Lewis they are now 18 Organizations, infesting the environment of 25 different States, they have simply changed their names while employing the same destructive methods, to implement their Leftist Utopia!

      • JohnC

        ACORN may not exist with the same name but they have not gone away or crawled back under their rock ….the ones who were fired for the misdeeds …do you think that every organization does not have a supply of individual people they can throw under the bus…claiming they were the problem …even Obama threw his own pastor under the bus this is just Chicago thug politics as usual…ACORN still exists but under differnet names

      • Robert Smith

        Ted says: “Instead, as is often the case with viral diseases it has mutated!”

        Sort of like Blackwater?

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Fredo claims: “Acorn was a corrupt-to-the-bone disorganization. They needed to be exposed…”

        Really? Except for the employees the caught, fired, and reported, what other incidents are you talking out of your hat about?

        Are you going to claim that there are absolutely NO individuals in right wing organizations who have done evil? Oops, there have been. Unfortunately it wasn’t the right wing organization that did the self reporting but a local official who discovered the evil.

        Remember: “Congress Members Seek Federal Probe in GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal as VA Attorney General Says Office Not Investigating After Arrest
        Photos show VA AG Ken Cuccinelli visiting with RNC employee days before arrest for destroying voter registration forms…”

        Yup, right wing caught again: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9657

        Rob

      • nickkin

        They were all burned @ the stake…..they just changed their name to protect the guilty….seems to run in the dem familia.

      • Robert Smith

        fredo says: “. Acorn was a corrupt-to-the-bone disorganization. They needed to be exposed,”

        Really? They were “exposed” by themselves by doing the right thing of reporting bad employees. That’s better than what the Republicans did just a couple of weeks ago.

        Please do tell us what needed “exposing” beyond what they reported themselves.

        Rob

        • bakerjohn

          They did it themselves , right after they were exposed and did not have a choice but to sack the people to bad only a few got found out and sacked.

      • http://google gary gerke

        Acorn was forced to change their name and moved to new address’s, they were and still are the voter fraudulent arm of the liberal progressives in the US today!

    • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

      Greg Abbott,

      The constitution gives the President the authority to make and sign treaties with the appropval of congress on behalf of the USA. In 1947, the US agreed to the UN treaty. We created it and promoted it globally. We are in it to stay. These treaties are legal and binding and constitutional.

      Since we work within the UN to move the world toward more freedom and openness, for us to suggest that we want to be left alone and to not be involved on the world stage is not only childish, but crazy. We need to do business with the world in order to prosper and grow here at home. So our connections will only grow.

      So, we should be pushing our government to allow for direct elections of our representatives to the UN General Assembly and to the UN Security Council. This would give us, as in the people of the USA, some direct influence within the UN bodies.

      As for election observers in the USA, I have no problem with that because we can not morally demand access to other nations election processes then try to hide our own from the world. It’s morally indefensible.

      We teach and promote accountability for our actions at home and abroad, should these principles not also apply to our leaders and to our country just as we expect it to do overseas?

      These actions are legal and constitutional. Otherwise we are a nation who promotes the rule of law, but only as long as it doesn’t apply to us.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        All this verbiage to admit that you cannot be expected to be honest.

      • Pathfinder1

        RE: UN Treaties
        You make some good points on the presidents ability to initiate treaties with the Senate’s approval. The rosy idealistic picture which you paint may not hold true given that the Obama Administration has four treaties under negotiation with the UN that are very questionable. The ATT, LOST and two additional treaties will yield US sovereignty to the UN. Hillary Clinton has already signed the ATT and it awaits Obamas signature (which will happen after the election). Obama’s signature partially commits the US even if not ratified by the Senate. In addition, the way the treaties are worded, the UN will have full discretion on the interpretation of words within the treaties and that subjugates US citizens to the will of the UN and by implication, countries that are anti-US.

        Look into these” Obama” treaties and you will find some very disconcerting details. As an example: How will you respond if the UN gets its way to tax the Internet (which is a subject now under discussion)? Dig into these treaties and you may find that the UN is now poised to syphon off US revenue (especially with the LOST Treaty) on a massive scale, all under the agenda of “wealth redistribution”. Sound familiar?

        President Obama has worked behind the scenes too many times to, as he said: “Fundamentally Change America”. So far he is succeeding beyond all common knowledge and must be stopped. The above alone is more than enough reason to elect a pro-America president and Obama is not “pro-America” as we know it.

      • DaveH

        Timothy says — “Since we work within the UN to move the world toward more freedom and openness”.
        When the UN was created (By Leaders, For Leaders) the number of tyrannical members has increased from 1/2 to 2/3rds. Your people are failures, Timothy. Why does that not surprise me?
        http://frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/UN.pdf

      • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

        Our Founders believed otherwise my Friend! I think they had a helluva lot more wisdom than the fools in charge now!

    • http://Yahoo JD

      Every state in the union should do the same as Texas. ANY U.S. citizen too ignorant to see the absolute insanity of this being allowed in this country, had better take a cource in ctizenship. You people are distroying your own world, and life as an American. Stop and think and know are freedomis in real danger. No non citizen never should be allowed near our voting headquarters,and so many other travesties to many to mention. Many things seem plausable to you younger folks, but they are very devious with intent. Too many of our youth have been, and still being indoctranated. My dear Lord. AMERICANS. Dems. Repubs.
      Black, white, Purple, Green. Americans, Stop this insanity!! Save OURSELVES.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Thank God for the people who uphold the law.

  • Deerinwater

    Well, ~ it sounds like they are thinking ahead. ~ Alabama has plenty of problems they could be addressing. What is next? ~ to explore the merits of “Flag Day”?

    • joe1cr

      We should not only keep the U.N. out of our elections, but we should also count the votes here in the United States and not in Spain by a company owned by George Sorros.

      • Robert Smith

        Actually it’s Romney’s Bain Capital that supplies the votor machiens for Ohio and several other states.

        BTW, that’s a FACT, not a claim like you have made.

        Rob

      • Flashy

        what would be any issue showing the world how it’s done? Do the State lawmakers in Alabama and Texas have something to hide? Are they afraid of observers that they cannot intimidate and suppress? Something they don’t want the world to discover?

        BTW Joe..if you would take time and think it through instead of being all herky jerky at the knees…there can’t be any one overall vote tabulation center….each state is responsible for counting it’s own votes, then reporting the results and releasing same to the media/public. Anyone telling you that tall tale about Soros is playing you for a fool. The real question is…did they peg you right?

      • Harry Quinn

        The connection between the Romney family and voting machines in Ohio should be illegal.It seems that the fix is already in, and money has bought another election. This is what the UN should be investigating.

      • Fredo

        This is to Robert Smith, who keeps blowing off about Romney “owning” and controlling the voting machines in Ohio. STFU you fool. You are NOT stating a fact, and I proved that in an earlier post I left you, which corrected you in your erroneous, false claim. Here it is again you liberal fool:
        “Now, the integrity of electronic voting machines is back in the spotlight. Reports are circulating there are “dubious links” between the voting machines in some counties [Hamilton and William] in Ohio and Governor Romney.

        The machines are supplied by Hart Intercivic, a national e-voting company. The Austin-based firm is partially owned by H.I.G Capital, an investment company that has business ties to Solamere Capital, Tagg Romney’s [Mitt’s oldest son] equity firm.

        The suggestion is that the Romney link is at best a conflict of interest, with even the potential for bias, fraud or irregularity.

        Though, Amy Searcy, director of the Hamilton County’s Board of Election, flat out disagrees. “These allegations are completely false and baseless,” she told theGrio.

        “We purchased our voting equipment — developed by Hart [Intercivic] – in 2005 but it’s owned by Hamilton County,” she added. “It’s a paper-based ballet which is scanned into an optical reader. Hart doesn’t have any involvement with the ballot processing or tabulation, that’s all done by our staff.”

      • JohnC

        Mindless liberals spouting the company is owned by Romney…but the votes WILL be counted in SPAIN by a company owned by George Soros do you think George has the votes fixed after all he supported Obama to get him selected for president, he was at the meeting of the Bilderbergs both Obama and Hillary attended…then she annouced she would drop out of the election …do you really thing we have a voting process in this country or is it more like the Stalin model “It is not important having an election but was is important is he wo counts the votes….can anyone see the corruption and conflict of interest in having SCYTL a spanish company (owned by Soros) tally our votes…I can but Liberals must be blind to these facts

      • Ted Crawford

        The company in question here is SCYTL . It’s headquartered in Spain and owned by Mr. Pete Valles and Mr. George Soros! Those are facts Robert!

      • pete0097

        Mr Smith, please provide the proof that Bain owns the voting machines in Ohio.

      • Deerinwater

        Fredo says:

        “This is to Robert Smith, who keeps blowing off about Romney “owning” and controlling the voting machines in Ohio. STFU you fool. You are NOT stating a fact, and I proved that in an earlier post I left you, which corrected you in your erroneous, false claim. Here it is again you liberal fool:”

        Fredo ! how do you say “conflict of interest?

        Could a voting machine company with deep financial ties to the Romney family help Republicans steal the presidential election in Ohio?
        It could happen. If this year’s presidential election comes down to the electoral votes in Ohio, the deciding votes could be cast on electronic voting machines manufactured by Hart Intercivic.
        Tell the Department of Justice: Don’t let Republicans steal the election in Ohio with Romney-owned voting machines. Click here to automatically sign the petition.
        A 2007 study conducted by Ohio’s Secretary of State showed that Hart Intercivic’s touch screen voting machines could be easily corrupted. The New York Times reported:
        At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.1
        Hart Intercivic is majority owned by H.I.G. Capital which controls two of the five seats on the Hart Intercivic board. An investment fund with deep ties to the Romney family and the Mitt Romney for president campaign, H.I.G. Capital was founded by Tony Tamer, a major bundler for the Romney campaign, and it is one of the largest partners of Solamere Capital, an investment fund founded by Tagg Romney and Spencer Zwick, Mitt Romney’s chief fundraiser from the 2008 presidential campaign.2 This makes the Romney family part owner of the voting machine company, through it’s interest in H.I.G. Capital.

        Listen, ~ with all the money the Romney family claims ~ why voting machines? why now? Why not islands or maybe the slave trade?

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          The constitution gives the President the authority to make and sign treaties with the appropval of congress. In 1947, the US agreed to the UN treaty. We created it and promoted it globally. We are in it to stay. These treaties are the law of the land, constitutionally supported and approved.

          Since we work within the UN to move the world toward more freedom and openness, for us to suggest that we want to be left alone and to not be involved on the world stage is not only childish, but crazy. We need to do business with the world in order to prosper and grow here at home. So our connections will only grow.

          So, we should be pushing our government to allow for direct elections of our representatives to the UN General Assembly and to the UN Security Council. This would give us, as in the people of the USA, some direct influence within the UN bodies.

          As for election observers in the USA, I have no problem with that because we can not morally demand access to other nations election processes then try to hide our own from the world. It’s morally indefensible.

          We teach and promote accountability for our actions at home and abroad, should these principles not also apply to our leaders and to our country just as we expect it to do overseas?

          These actions are legal and constitutional.

      • DaveH

        Flashman, the administration shill, says — “what would be any issue showing the world how it’s done?”.
        Nice equivocation, Flashman (even if poor grammar).
        One very big problem is that it wouldn’t show the World how it’s done. It would only show the Leaders and their hired representatives how it’s done. And they’re the problem. Like allowing the Fox to watch the Hen House.

      • Flashy

        Yeah…it was bad grammar wasn’t it…. is there a Mises link on that DaveH?

        must be tough spouting anti US lines day after day. Now to state that we shouldn’t allow the world to observe our election process because…gasp…they’re foreigners? I realize that the voter ID laws have been designed to make voting more difficult and targeting the Democratic strongholds (with no evidence of voter fraud at the voter levels), and I realize that the past few months have turned up act after act of GOP aligned folks destroying registrations and attempting to fix the election, and I realize the elected GOPers of Texas, Alabama, etc are those with the extreme gerrymandering configured to rig the vote and politics in their respective states …

        Could that be the big hub bub? that we really don’t have elections that would pass foreign scrutiny and that “our folks” will tell us how it all turned out? Hmmmm…sounds a lot like a despotic country eh? Yugo Chavez will be proud of how the GOP has come around to his line of thinking….

      • TML

        Flashy says, “Do the State lawmakers in Alabama and Texas have something to hide? Are they afraid of observers that they cannot intimidate and suppress? Something they don’t want the world to discover?”

        Highly doubtful… as you further pointed out, “each state is responsible for counting it’s own votes, then reporting the results and releasing same to the media/public” – thus these states are equally capable, and responsible for, observing and preventing voter fraud. There is no need for an international body of un-elected officials, to do that for them. It’s ultimately a matter of principle in sovereignty.

      • Robert Smith

        “The Austin-based firm is partially owned by H.I.G Capital, an investment company that has business ties to Solamere Capital, Tagg Romney’s [Mitt’s oldest son] equity firm.”

        You’ve confirmed the connection. The rest is simply argument.

        I find it amazing that the right would question an individual about their right to vote but go along with such links to voting machiens without question.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        So much equivocation (from Flashman), so little time.
        Flashman says — “must be tough spouting anti US lines day after day”.
        Then why do you do it, Flashman? Because you’re an Administration Shill who cares more about the Leaders than about the people? That was a rhetorical question.

        Flashman says — “Now to state that we shouldn’t allow the world to observe our election process because…gasp…they’re foreigners?”.
        I already answered that. It would be like hiring the Fox to watch the Hen House. Or to put it another way — it would be like hiring Flashman to look out for our best interests.

        Flashman says — “I realize that the voter ID laws have been designed to make voting more difficult and targeting the Democratic strongholds”.
        So one minute Flashman feigns concern for the legitimacy of our election process, and then the next he spurns efforts to create that legitimacy.

        Flashman says — “Yugo Chavez will be proud of how the GOP has come around to his line of thinking….”.
        More attempted manipulation by the Flashman. Where did you come up with your name, Flashman? Is it because the Truth in your comments is gone in a Flash?

      • DaveH

        And Flashman, I’ve told you many times why I refer to Mises so much. Unlike you, I can trust their articles to be logical, factual, and unbiased. And, unlike you, I don’t expect people to just take my word for anything, so I provide articles that give in-depth explanations of things that I can only offer soundbites about.
        But with or without Mises, Flashman, I could beat you in any kind of mental contest except those which involve lying. You would win those hands down, Flashman. I am not too proud to admit that.

      • Flashy

        “thus these states are equally capable, and responsible for, observing and preventing voter fraud. There is no need for an international body of un-elected officials, to do that for them. It’s ultimately a matter of principle in sovereignty.” <—TML

        TML … no one is saying the ultimate enforcement and process is taken over from any state. Consider this. The Parliamentary election results announced this week from Belarus.
        = International observers on Monday condemned a weekend vote in Belarus in which not a single opposition politician won a parliament seat.
        = Critics also said the 74.3 percent turnout reported Monday by the country's Central Elections Commission chairman was way too high and indicated widespread fraud. Local independent observers estimated the overall turnout as being almost 19 percent lower than the official 74.3 percent figure.
        = At least 20 independent election observers were detained

        =======
        Or let's take our good friend Hugo Chavez down in Venezuela. In the beginning of October ,,,, "Hugo Rafael Chavez Frias was reelected for another 6-year presidential term in Venezuela, after beating challenger Henrique Capriles 54% to 44%."
        = Those elections are not in dispute. Why? because of the hordes of observers from the international monitors.

        OK…let's begin with Belarus … observers detained. Is that not what the Texas AG is threatening and many on this forum calling for?

        Moving onto Hugo. Would you feel it true had those results been gathered, counted, and announced by Venezuela without the process under international observation?

        On one hand, a right wing autocrat supported by a small aristocracy of oligarchical banks and industry. The other is a left wing democratic regime. One detained observers and insisted its results were correct. the other invited all the observers who wanted to come.

        Who ya believin' had the honest elections????

        Here we have a right wing contingent from conservative ruled states insisting international observers are not welcomed…because 'we" can handle it. including at least one state AG and another state's legislator (both right wing). We have the progressive and moderate states (controlled by the Democrats) saying "hey, come on in, grab a coffee..sit a spell!" .

        Think about all the above before dismissing the concept that international observers on a "come one, come all!" is a bad unwanted unwarranted idea

      • DaveH

        Currently 2/3 of the UN membership is compose of Tyrannical Countries. And Flashman thinks they are going to moderate the Venezuelan elections fairly?
        Pardon me while I roll over and laugh hysterically:
        http://www.thechortle.com/Chortle23/TheChortle2207_ROFLMAO.png

      • DaveH

        Flashman says — “Those elections are not in dispute. Why? because of the hordes of observers from the international monitors”.
        How do you tell if Flashman is lying? His lips are moving:
        http://video.foxnews.com/v/1885574534001/allegations-of-voter-fraud-in-chavez-re-election-victory/

      • TML

        If no one is saying the ultimate enforcement and process is (or ought to be) taken over from any state, then how do the findings of any international observer matter?

        Flashy says, “Belarus … observers detained. Is that not what the Texas AG is threatening and many on this forum calling for?”

        I highly doubt anyone is advocating detention of election observers, as much as they are objecting to foreign oversight of their elections.

        Flashy says, “Would you feel it true had those results been gathered, counted, and announced by Venezuela without the process under international observation?”

        Sure, why not?

        Flashy says, “Who ya believin’ had the honest elections????”

        Who I ‘believe’ had honest elections in another country doesn’t really matter to me.

        Flashy says, “Here we have a right wing contingent from conservative ruled states insisting international observers are not welcomed…because ‘we” can handle it. including at least one state AG and another state’s legislator (both right wing). We have the progressive and moderate states (controlled by the Democrats) saying “hey, come on in, grab a coffee..sit a spell!” .”

        The problem with your line of thinking here is that it begins with (and entirely dependent upon) the false presupposition, given as rhetoric, that “if you’re not doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?”

        It also presumes that any organization, or people, within Texas (for example), are capable or trustworthy of such civic duties as election observation, simply because they reside in Texas.

        “Think about all the above before dismissing the concept that international observers on a “come one, come all!” is a bad unwanted unwarranted idea”

        This further uses the false presupposition to assume that international observers are more virtuous than those they have come to observe.

        To think that way, then gives any ‘recommendation’ or other findings from these observers the ability to dictate enforcement and process over the State which is responsible for the elections. Are you saying that Texas or Alabama have a corrupt government equal to the likes of Hugo Chavez or even Belarus that warrants such foreign observers?Because it seems to me you are putting the cart before the horse by implying that international observers are warranted simply because the resident of those states object to them.

        Most American people simply are not comfortable with any foreign body conducting oversight of internal elections, and has nothing to do with being guilty of fraud or hiding anything.

      • Karolyn

        Our votes will NOT be counted in Spain! After wading through all the rumor-mongering sites, I finally found some rational information, and it’s not Snopes!
        http://americanpatriotalliance.com/nospainvote/

      • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

        ROGER THAT Joe1!!!

  • Harry Quinn

    Considering the troubling precedent set by Jeb Bush when he gave the 2000 election to his brother, this is not surprising.

    • Robert Smith

      Let’s not forget how it’s the RIGHT wing that is demanding voter fraud prevention with IDs and other garbage.

      I would think that with all the fraud potential they claim they would welcome more ways to prevent it.

      But then it isn’t abour froad that the right is concerned. They are working to margenalize and make it difficult for the poor and elderly to vote.

      How quickly they realize it is THEY (the extreme right) will be caught.

      Rob

      • David S. Batchelder

        If the UN comes in, why do we have a USA. We have people who do not want to remove dead people or ID’s. The same people who want the UN. Are we no a world gov and the American people just are not aware of it.

        Wake up people, push back, this is outrageous. We need to push back at these OWG idiots.

      • pete0097

        It is so easy to get photo ID that I think that even the poor, disabled, and old can get sufficient photo ID to vote. They can get it for welfare, food stamps, and social security, why not to vote? The whole story about how hard to got photo ID is ludicrist and should be laughed at as a totally bigoted idea.

      • DaveH

        Robert,
        Why is it that you think our own people can’t be counted on being honest enough to oversee the elections, but you think that some disinterested foreigners would be?

      • Chester

        PETE0097, Sir, kindly do a bit of research about what hoopssomeone who does not currently HAVE a photo ID has to jump through to get a “state approved” photo ID. First, you have to have a NEW birth certificate that can still have the seal on it felt, not an original certificate of live birth. Just to get the birth certificate, you have to go to the nearest health department and prove to them that you are who you claim to be. It does help if you know when and where you were born, and not only your mother’s maiden name, but your grandparents names as well. Once you prove you have a right to obtain your birth certificate, you are out of pocket immediately, fifteen to fifty dollars, depending on which state you are in. Sometimes you will be lucky enough to hit a point where you can actually walk away with your brand new birth certificate in your hand. And this is if you are making application in the state you were born in. If you happen not to live in the state you were born in, the process takes a good bit longer, assuming your birth happened to have been recorded properly when you were born, which for a lot of the elderly, even now, it wasn’t . I was born at home, like a lot of the rest of our older citizens, but Mom did have a doctor in attendance when I popped out, and he did file all the proper papers with the state. Even after you have the birth certificate unless you can drive, or have access to transportation to get you to the county seat, you still have a problem, as there is usually only one place in a county where you can get that blessed ID card, and that more often than not is in the county seat.

      • Robert Smith

        David H. asks: “Why is it that you think our own people can’t be counted on being honest enough to oversee the elections,…”

        Remember hanging chads? The extreme right wing stole Florida, and the election. Gore & Lieberman WON the popular vote. The American PEOPLE spoke and… Well, we all see what we got.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Non Sequitur.
        Is that the best you can do, Robert? Of course it is.

      • daniel

        Yeah, I am trying to remember the son of some representative who also happens to be the nephew of some party bigwig that is under investigation for voter fraud. Something about forging electric bills so that they can be used to register to vote? Could you help me out as I don’t want false information going out. After all voter fraud does not exost in this country.

      • http://www.facebook.com/charles.agnew.16 Charles Agnew

        ROBERT SMITH…you can’t get a job without at least 2 forms of ID! You can’t cash a SS or Welfare check without it, and then ya have to put your’ thumb print on the SOB!. You can’t even get a post office box! You can’t get food stamps, Man, you CAN’T do anything in this whole damned Country without an ID!!! The idea that Voter ID is “Disinfranchising” anyone is a pure crock of [comment has been edited]! A person CANNOT live in this Country without a picture ID!!! You peoples arguements are pure [comment has been edited] and ya SOB’s know it!

        • http://google gary gerke

          RIGHT ON YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN!
          Do you think it is a little strange that this comes during Obama’s re-election and never before. Many of the UN nations would love to see another four years of Obama, Obama believes in the failed euro system!

          • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

            Sorry, but OSCE election observers have been operating in the USA since 2002 – who was president then?

          • http://google gary gerke

            Really….where is that varification…when and where???

          • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

            Read the press release from OSCE dated 24 Oct 2012…..last paragraph….at this link…

            http://www.osce.org/odihr/96639

          • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

            Gary, here is the entire press release……read the whole thing….

            “WARSAW, 24 October 2012 – Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, the Director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), expressed his grave concern today over the threat of criminal prosecution of OSCE/ODIHR election observers.

            This threat, contained in an open letter from the Attorney General of Texas, is at odds with the established good co-operation between OSCE/ODIHR observers and state authorities across the United States, including in Texas, Lenarčič said, adding that it is also contrary to the country’s obligations as an OSCE participating State.

            The ODIHR Director shared his concerns in a letter to United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

            “The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarčič said. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.”

            The ODIHR Director also stressed that any concerns or reports that the election observers intended to influence or interfere with the election process were groundless. He underlined that OSCE/ODIHR election observers adhere to all national laws and regulations, as well as a strict code of conduct.

            “Our observers are required to remain strictly impartial and not to intervene in the voting process in any way,” Lenarčič said. “They are in the United States to observe these elections, not to interfere in them.”

            The ODIHR limited election observation mission for the 2012 general elections in the United States consists of a core team of 13 experts, from 10 OSCE participating States, based in Washington D.C., and 44 long-term observers deployed throughout the country. These are the sixth United States elections the Office has observed, without incident, since 2002.”

      • bakerjohn

        Rob smith what you got against Voter ID it works for everyone it works for pres. Obama #44 and other high profile people so why not for everyone. I’ve been using it for as long as I’ve been voting , so scrap the bull a person wants to vote they have lots of chances to get ID before hand it comes up every few years they to lazy to get ID. or just want to keep making trouble about not being able to and not wanting to be forced to etc.etc.

    • http://Yahoo.com Bill

      Just throw out the comments like Obama did, say it enough and then hope people believe. Just how did Jeb Bush give the election to his brother. I’m sure a lot of people would like to know how it happened.

      • http://google gary gerke

        You have not done your homework….liberal teachings, Florida came down to around 4-thousand vote difference, after many recounts Bush won by…wait for it, 537 votes. Get over it dummer!!!!!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Harry; the Chicago mob went to Flordia to steal the election for the idiot Gore, so your just full of stuff that comes from where the Sun don’t shine.

  • http://Yahoo William Oberlander

    I would like to know if one should continue paying taxes in the US with voter fraud? People in Greece have stopped paying them because of the way their government has collapes their system. About a month ago I read that there are 32,000 dead people in N Carolina still on the voting list? Anyone could walk in and vote for them without a voter ID card. Are the good people of the US really being represented? Good article, Thanks.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      Do you need to be reminded that we are the US, not Greece? And that we have a different Government and currency base?

      • bakerjohn

        REALLY, only by name, the actions remain the same.

    • http://google gary gerke

      Right on, in this day and age with at least 24-million illegals in the US, we need voter picture ID. Not having it is total nonsense. This year the liberal judges are saying that demanding voter ID so close to the election is wrong…FINE. After this election we the people need to demand that every voter will have ID for the nextelections….just silly!

  • http://namasteembroidery.com rjim

    The UN needs to be defunded by the US and kicked out of our country. Period, no discussion.

    • Robert Smith

      And then the odds of putting a group of countries like GB Sr. did to stop Sadam the first time will be impossible.

      Then all we will have is cowboy invasions like GWB did that gets all sorts of folks upset with America.

      And we can all see where that has gotten us.

      Rob

      • DaveH

        So you’re okay with meddling in other countries’ business and killing their people as long as other countries are involved, Robert?

      • Robert Smith

        It sets the world up to be a democracy among countries. So, YES, under some selected circumstances I do see a considered response to a evils from a country being investigated and stopped with force if necessary and there is agreement, as GB Sr. did with Saddam.

        That’s as opposed to the JR. Bush’s cowboy approach.

        BTW, is your approach to NEVER meddle no matter how bad something is?

        It’s ABSOLUTES that gets us in trouble.

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Evil in whose opinion, Robert? I think you’re evil, so can we get the UN to do something about you?

      • Robert Smith

        David H asks: “Evil in whose opinion, Robert?”

        There you go! In the eyes of a GROUP of nations, not one cowboy like GWB.

        Now, care to answer the questions?

        Rob

      • DaveH

        So Robert thinks that it’s okay to kill people as long as his gang votes in majority to do it. What else could I expect from an immoral Liberal Progressive?

      • nickkin

        Let see…it got us Sadam dead…Iraq will be the next Babylon…..they will have a form of democracy……yep…let see where that got us….. but wait..obozo got osama…now all the al qida are free to do want they please..kill americans…..

    • teaparty13

      I agree, nothing but a bunch of nations that hate us and whose dips break every law on the books and get away with it. The U(nited) N(othing)can always set up shop in France, good place for them, or better yet Russia..

      • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.sherman.589 Tg Sherman

        3000 Americans would be alive today if the 9-11 hijackers would have mistaken the UN building for the Twin Towers!!! I say bulldoze it and make it a park, for Americans only!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Amen rjim; the best thing that could happen in the U.S. and the world.

  • Baloney Toney Mahoney

    The Mahoney Man says: Whatta Bunch of Baloney!!!!!!!!! I guess those upstanding groups have no confidence in Racist Holder’s DOJ, whose job this is….Hey, as a matter of fact, I’d rather have the UN observe than Holder,,,,they will be more unbiased!!!!!

  • Patriotism Reigns

    Folks, wake up, if we give the obummer and company another four years we will spiral downward to no remedy and will become just like all the other socialist thinking countries in the world. It’s time we rise up and let our voice be heard. No one, not acorn not the un nor any other entity has any right to oversee anything in this country. We are not governed by the world community. We have a Constitution. It’s time that we let our voice be heard and vote the bums out that want us to bow to the socialist agenda.

    • Nan

      There may be truth in what TIME says: Take a look at Endtimes ministries and the studies of Irvin Baxter. The New World Order and One World Religion have been forming for the last 100 years. Ronald Reagan was aware of the National ID as the mark of the Beast (The Satan) in Revelations and prevented it from being implemented. George Bush said Islam and Christianity worshipped the same God. Not true. Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God. Muslims do not. Therefore, not the same God. Anyway, by letting the UN and other “world” organizations run our country, we are surrendering our sovereignty to the One World Order and we will be pulled down into the abyss. But if we ask for help from God, as is stated in the Bible, we will be saved from this. It’s just worth a look.

    • DaveH

      Patriotism wake up. It’s not just Obama. The two major parties are really one and the same party with agendas just different enough to keep the people divided and rooting for their favorite “team”.
      They are just different sides of the same Progressive Coin with Crony Capitalists teaming up with their Crony Politicians to take advantage of the rest of us. And by the “rest of us”, I am including the Poor who just aren’t informed enough to know that those “freebies” they are getting are coming at a very high price to them.
      For a real change — back to the kind of Freedom that great Founders like Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington, wanted for us, there is only one real choice:
      http://lp.org/

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      So vote. That is how our voices are hear. If the person that you want in office is voted in by the majority of voters that’s great. If they are not, try again in 4 years. That’s part of what makes this country so great.

  • teaparty13

    Just saw on Foxnews that some voting machines are changing votes from Romney to Obama..voter fraud, anyone?

    • Harry Quinn

      You saw this on Fox News? That proves that what you heard is a lie. Romney family controls the voting machines in Ohio. That is not a lie.

      • Fredo

        Harry, I hope this article from the “The Grio” of NBC News, helps clarify this subject. What you said Harry is quite wrong and misleading. Typical liberal:

        “Now, the integrity of electronic voting machines is back in the spotlight. Reports are circulating there are “dubious links” between the voting machines in some counties [Hamilton and William] in Ohio and Governor Romney.

        The machines are supplied by Hart Intercivic, a national e-voting company. The Austin-based firm is partially owned by H.I.G Capital, an investment company that has business ties to Solamere Capital, Tagg Romney’s [Mitt’s oldest son] equity firm.

        The suggestion is that the Romney link is at best a conflict of interest, with even the potential for bias, fraud or irregularity.

        Though, Amy Searcy, director of the Hamilton County’s Board of Election, flat out disagrees. “These allegations are completely false and baseless,” she told theGrio.

        “We purchased our voting equipment — developed by Hart [Intercivic] – in 2005 but it’s owned by Hamilton County,” she added. “It’s a paper-based ballet which is scanned into an optical reader. Hart doesn’t have any involvement with the ballot processing or tabulation, that’s all done by our staff.”

      • JohnC

        The votes will be counted in SPAIN by a company that George Soros (a major Obama Supporter) controls you may have the machines collect the votes but the election will be won by who counts them…voter fraud anyone …or a replay of the Stalin voter process

      • Penny R. Freeman

        Grow a brain. When you see it, that is the machine as it does make the change automatically, somehow I just don’t consider that a lie! Want to explain how a family from Massachusetts controls Ohio? And voter fraud that the Dems claim doesn’t exist-explain all the arrests and convictions during the 2008 election. I personally saw people pulled out of the line on election day and questioned. My suspicion, since we live just over the state line folks were attempting to vote in two states instead of one. No there’s no significant voter fraud AG Holder, that is when it all adds up in favor of the libtards.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It appears the Dems/Progs/Leftists all of a sudden have gotten sensitive and conscience struck about how big liars they have been (if any believe that they have a conscience dream on). It was fine to be treacherous and deceptive to get their own way but now the Conservatives abd Libertarians and Republicans have called them out that they are nothing more than two legged predatory wolves,all of a sudden they are all playing victims.

      • teaparty13

        I’d trust Fox new over the lame-stream media anyday..why haven’t the others reported the emails Obama received about the trouble in Benghazi on Sept 11 and why didn’t he send help when our troops were only an hour flight away?

      • daniel

        Hey Quinn, get your head outta the hole. The same thing has happened here in Vegas as well. The machine changed her vote from Romney to Obama multiple times. Fox had nothing to do with this report as it was in the local paper.

        • bakerjohn

          Hey Harry Q. I’ve seen lies and omissions on other stations seen more truth on Fox than the others.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Harry how is Santa Claus and the Easter Bunnie doing these days in your dream world?

  • TIME

    Dear People,

    Voter fraud ~ saddly that’s nothing new, ~ its been going on for over 150 years here in America ~ under the Corporation known as the “United States.”

    The UN is yet one more ARM of the Octopus many of you know as the “New World Order” ~ its really the upper level of this criminal crime syndicate as it’s near the head of this beast. ~ Non the less still it is what it is; A ~ {100% Criminal Element in all respects.}

    All UN members ~ both past and present should face {“War Crimes”} trials.
    Of what they are all 100% Guilty of “War Crimes against Humanity” ~ TIME after TIME ~ Need proof ~ well its quite easy to find as its all in black and white,
    The United Nations has given their Consent to allow: the depravity within the Human condition to be posted in bold print.
    We here in America have allowed other’s to commit crimes that are unspeakable, all in our name as well all nations who are also member’s of the United Nations thus there crimes are responsible for the “murder” of ~ Countless hundreds of Millions ~ of Children, Mothers and Fathers just like YOU.

    I have no reguard for the United Nations nor should any Human who has a belief in The Christ, or in Goodness toward our fellow humans, as this criminal unit has no positive value, ~ nor probative value toward the Human condition in any way shape or form.

    Perhaps to make this point clear so anyone can figure this issue out with out any form of reservations: Ask yourself this question:
    Would you let the Maffia / Black Hand ~ observe such an event? Would you wish to follow the Laws / Rules of the Maffia / Black Hand?

    Its your call, Complain your ass’s off. (( If you stay silent )) ~ you give “YOUR CONSENT”.

    Can I make it any more simple for you all. Stop supporting a “Criminal Cabal.”

    Peace and Love be with you

    • Penny R. Freeman

      I’ve been complaining to Congress for quite a while about the U.N. That organization is a useless band of thieves just like the League of Nations was in their time. But our dear president and Hillary along with Billy Bob her hubby are among the many in this country who are globalists. They want one government for the entire world. Think that will work? Since most countries can’t even get two groups of their own citizens to agree on anything what are the chances that an entire world of countries with different languages, cultures, and concerns will bow to a government meant to rule this world? But that’s the push that’s on. The U.N. , with the consent of the above mentioned “leaders” of this country, are pushing for three U.N. agreements that most Americans will not like. One: An international tax, another way to achieve Obama’s redistibution of wealth. Two: U.N. control of the internet. Three: International registry of all small arms, another push by the anti-gun nuts to disarm all Americans. You know what they say, if the populace is disarmed the only people left with weapons are the government and criminals (in my opinion one and the same group). You’d better start screaming as loudly as you can if you don’t want those treaties to get signed by Obama and Hillary. Don’t believe me? Wait and see, but if you do it will be too late. Obama and Hillary have made more than one attempt at the gun registry, but the screaming public at least delayed that. Another sneak attempt by the U.N. is under way right now. Since China and Russia usually have the deciding votes in issues before the U.N., if we don’t push back NOW expect to lose that battle.

      • DaveH

        Right on, Penny.
        And why do they want One World Government? It’s not for our sake, it’s for their sake. If people think it’s hard to get rid of corrupt Federal Leaders, imagine how hard it’s going to be to get rid of the Gang when they are headquartered in some remote location?
        Leaders are well aware that the the further they remove Government from local, the harder it is to Fire them from their jobs.

    • http://google gary gerke

      Right on…true story!!!!!!!!!

  • Chocopot

    It’s truly audacious – the word to use is “chutzpah” – that the Democrats are so ‘worried’ about voting fraud and are asking for outside help to prevent it. The Democrats, the party created in the 1840′s to perpetuate slavery, have been engaging in documented, widespread voter registration and election fraud since the 1850′s. They have honed it to a science and will be engaging in huge amounts of it come November. For those who doubt this, I suggest you begin reading some history books (as long as they are not written by the lifelong, card-carrying Communist, Howard Zinn) and checking on the Internet. Facts are a powerful tool.

    • DaveH

      Actually, Chocopot, the Democrats were the party of Freedom until the late 1800s when the Progressives (who had already infiltrated the Republican Party) took them over:
      http://mises.org/daily/1259

      Also read the books “The Real Lincoln” and “Hamilton’s Curse” by Thomas DiLorenzo.

      • DaveH

        As a side note, most of the History Books have been written by Court Historians to favor an UnConstitutionally large Central Government.

    • JC

      I hear ya! But if the Dems are so worried about Americans voting…why are they doing everything they can to bar the overseas military vote? Oh yeah! Because the military has ZERO respect for the Imposter in Chief.

    • Karolyn

      Who said it was the democrats that want help? I wonder what Romney’s position is?

      • daniel

        Answer Karolyn: NAACP, ACLU for starters.

        • bakerjohn

          and AG Holder, and other Democrats in various States where they wanted to have voter ID used AG Holder and cohorts tried to stop it in the courts..

  • Rockin

    The U.N. wants to make sure that it gets its moneys worth. Afterall what would they do if Hillary and the UN puppet president they ahave in office actually lost the election. I wonder if vomiting I mean voting in a corrupt election just enboldens the liars and proves that you are asleep to a corrupt election to begin with.

  • pete0097

    These “observers” will probably want to go to real problem areas like Kissimmee FL (Disney World); Myrtle Beach, SC; Atlantic City, NJ; Branson Missouri; or Las Vegas. That way they can not only “do their jobs” but have a nice vacation as well all on the taxpayers dime. They wouldn’t want to go somewhere where they might actually observe a problem caused by some liberal racist or where they might.get hurt.

    • Chester

      These “observers” will most likely go where ever they are assigned, which will normally be in places that seem to exhibit the greatest likelihood of voter problems. A question for all on here. Are we not expected to hold to the selfsame rules of law we want the rest of the world to abide by? Or are we allowed to do as we please simply because we are the biggest, baddest SOB on the block?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Is that what you believe about yourself that you cannot be trusted?
        We have had good leaders and bad leaders in this country and the decisions they made have had unintended consequences and we are paying dearly to this day for bad decisions. Compound the decisions of the leadership throughout America’s existance and the load is getting heavier by the day.
        I have yet to hear or read that the Dems or Republicans leaders admit that they have no idea how to run a country. They have gotten us from point A but what is waiting for us at point B.

  • MV Jim

    On its face, Bob’s story doesn’t explain what we are supposed to worry about! If this group has been here for so long, surely there is evidence of their “wrongdoing.” On the other hand, what if they in fact caught people voting for dead people, or voting twice, or trying to keep registered voters from voting?

    • DaveH

      Just US Sovereignty. Now you want, instead of a bunch of US losers meddling with our lives, a bunch of International losers meddling with our lives?

    • JC

      Don’t buy into the lie Jim. The UN has NO business in the United States of America…NONE. We are supposed to be a people of noble integrity.
      We are in fact, a Constitutional Republic and a sovereign entity. They have no business here, and according the the Constitution, we have no business involving ourselves in foreign entanglements. We need to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.

      • DaveH

        And keep in mind that the UN was created By Leaders For Leaders. The average citizens have no vote in the matter of UN elections. Imagine that — an Un-elected body of UN Leaders overseeing the American peoples’ elections.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      It is still not any of the UN’s business. We are a sovereign nation. Once this baloney starts we will never get them out of their meddling. First rule: Do not let them start!

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Tell me something, since we, as in the USA, do send election observers around the world via the UN, ans since we push those states to abide by the rule of law and the treaties to which we are signatories, is it not childish, foolish, arrogant, and just plain stupid to not allow those same rules to be applied here?

      • DaveH

        You have a point, Timothy, but it is fatally flawed and unfortunately is a common event among average humans — that of “sinking to the lowest common denominator”.
        Rather than allowing the Leaders to apply the same poisonous cure to us because They do it elsewhere, we need to insist that the US (through the UN) NOT meddle with the rest of the World.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        The flaw in your analysis Dave is that we are a nation of law and the rule of law. The constitution gives the President the authority to make and sign treaties with the appropval of congress. In 1947, the US agreed to the UN treaty. We created it and promoted it globally. We are in it to stay.

        Since we work within the UN to move the world toward more freedom and openness, for us to suggest that we want to be left alone and to not be involved on the world stage is not only childish, but crazy. We need to do business with the world in order to prosper and grow here at home. So our connections will only grow.

        So, we should be pushing our government to allow for direct elections of our representatives to the UN General Assembly and to the UN Security Council. This would give us, as in the people of the USA, some direct influence within the UN bodies.

        As for election observers in the USA, I have no problem with that because we can not morally demand access to other nations election processes then try to hide our own from the world. It’s morally indefensible.

        We teach and promote accountability for our actions at home and abroad, should these principles not also apply to our leaders and to our country just as we expect it to do overseas?

        These actions are legal and constitutional.

      • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

        TimithoyWilliamson: you are eith a Socialist/Marxist or just an Idiot. We were a Nation of Laqws until this Piece of Crap Abomination cme to office. Abomination has done everything to bypass our Laws , Constitution and Bill of Rights and if re-elected a “LAME” Duck President will destroy what is left of what he has already begun to destroy. Broken promises and he has offered to do exactly the same thing if re-elected and that was to Bankrupt the Country destroy the Middle Class just like his Real Father Frank Marshall Davis wanted to do in the 50′s,60′s 70′s and 80′s before his Death. Abomination and his background that we can trace spells Marxist and an Indonesian Sunni Muslim School with his Fake Father and his Real Father FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS Both REGISTERED COMMUNISTS AND WHAT LITTLE THAT WE CAN SEE IN HIS VIDEO’S OF HIM INTRODUCING HIS FATHER FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS AT A COLLEGE RALLY SAYING HE WAS HIS MENTOR AND LOOK AT HIS OTHER MENTOR REV. WRIGHT THE AMERICA HATING WHITE HATING ASSHOLE AND HIS ASSOCIATION WITH BILL AYRES THE FOUNDER OF THE MURDEROUS WEATHER UNDERGROUND AND BLACK PANTHERS AND TERRORIST MUSLIM LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD HE IS A RADICAL MUSLIM AND MARXIST. Viet Nam Vet 67-68

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          Sorry! But it appears you have been living in a cave of delusion. Sorry about that. Wish I could help though. The VA does have some really good programs that may help with delusional paranoia. The reast of America aren’t fooled by such non-sense.

      • DaveH

        The flaw in your analysis, Timothy, is thinking that one group of contractors can bind an uninvolved group to that contract forever.

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          The flaw is that many want to believe that the US is an island isolated from the world. And that we can push the application of the rule of law to all the world via the UN and its agencies, but yet not have those rules and laws apply to us here at home. That is the epitomy of hypocracy and arrogance.

          We must interact with the world daily. We do that via the UN and volumes of treaties. And those treaties have the force of law as defined in our constitution.

      • DaveH

        Here are more flaws in Timothy’s “logic”:
        Timothy says — “Since we work within the UN to move the world toward more freedom and openness”.
        Killing people so that they do things the US way is Freedom? Dream on, Timothy.

        Timothy says — “for us to suggest that we want to be left alone and to not be involved on the world stage is not only childish, but crazy”.
        Ah yes, the typical Progressive fallback — name-calling and ridicule in lieu of logic and facts.

        Timothy says — “We need to do business with the world in order to prosper”.
        No doubt that Free Trade is a good thing, but what Timothy fails to understand is that Free Trade does not involve the coercive Force of Government.

      • DaveH

        Timothy says — “Sorry! But it appears you have been living in a cave of delusion. Sorry about that. Wish I could help though. The VA does have some really good programs that may help with delusional paranoia. The reast of America aren’t fooled by such non-sense”.
        What makes you think, Timothy, that the “reast” of American are fooled by your nonsense?
        If you had something valuable to contribute you wouldn’t need to lace your comments with Adolescent Manipulative techniques.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        DaveH, do you not think it would be better to work to improve the UN? Do you not think that that is the logical thing to do since the UN is not going away?

        I say let’s get our government to allow direct public elections for our representatives to the UN.

      • DaveH

        Timothy says — “The flaw is that many want to believe that the US is an island isolated from the world. And that we can push the application of the rule of law to all the world via the UN and its agencies, but yet not have those rules and laws apply to us here at home. That is the epitomy of hypocracy and arrogance”.
        More Adolescent Manipulative techniques. Seems, Timothy, that you can’t make a coherent argument without them.
        What does World Isolation have to do with not being part of the UN?
        The UN is an organization that was created BY LEADERS FOR LEADERS. It is a body of people, unelected by the citizens who it supposedly represents, that in no way represents Free Trade. The UN represents the wishes of its Leaders and their Crony Capitalists. That is all.

      • DaveH

        Timothy says — “DaveH, do you not think it would be better to work to improve the UN? Do you not think that that is the logical thing to do since the UN is not going away?”.
        No. The logical thing to do would be to abolish the UN, so that Leaders can’t so easily Force their way on the rest of us in their efforts to feather their own nests at the rest of our expense.

        Timothy says — “I say let’s get our government to allow direct public elections for our representatives to the UN”.
        Great. Let’s create a Government even further removed from the people they claim to represent than the Federal Government we already have which has trampled the Constitution, the States, and the people.
        Our wise Founders knew that Local Government was the best Government because the people could much more easily control Local Government than they could Central Government. We are currently seeing the results of that which our Founders tried in vain to protect us from.

      • DaveH

        10 more reasons to abolish the UN:
        http://frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/UN.pdf

    • http://www.facebook.com/ronaldr.worthington Ronald R Worthington

      Oct 22, 2012 Ft Collins, CO. Democrats out side a polling place, breaking election laws, too close, etc. Poll judge ALLOWING it to happen. Colorado GOP goes to county DA. The Denver Post–supports Obama- has a small story on page 18(?). WTF?? We need more poll watchers with cameras, and possible involvement with National Guard. Of course at the same time, we are seeing the possibility that gov’t is interfering with our own military, being cheated out of their right to vote! All right, democrats–bring them on! After watching the silly games for over 60 years, the only fraud i have seen comes from the democrats and the crooked political machines in NYC, Chicago, Boston, etc. Kind of strange, isn’t it? All these years and never seeing or hearing of a problem from the GOP? I grant you, it could have happened and i just never heard about it, but we have HUGE numbers of verified problems with the Democrats. Seems downright strange that the ones causing the problems are the ones making the most noise, and blaming the other party. Hmm-you don’t suppose they are are paying them off? (see Chicago politics)

  • http://personalliberty.com ken

    maybe the people of the USA needs to tell the UN to get the hell out of our country we take care of our self’s and after that we go to NY city to the UN building and tell every one there leave now or else and you know what that mean and then to every other UN place in the USA and do the same thing and stop give tax payers money to all country’s it should all stay here in the USA for the people of the USA the hell with the other country’s

    • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

      Not going to happen. We made it. We created it. We promoted it to the world. Today,our world is getting smaller day by day. Our interconnections and co-dependence with all the other states of the world is accelerating daily and what happens in one has a direct impact on others.
      So we’re not getting out.
      Let’s work instead to make it better. Let’s work to get all states to allow direct elections of our UN representatives to the General Assembly and to the Security Council.

      • S.C.Murf

        In 47 our evil, corrupt leaders created the UN for the sole purpose of a one world order that satan will eventually rule. Is this what you want TW ? As for me and mine, we serve the Lord Jesus and we want no part of the evil UN. TIME to stop the funding and get out.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • http://www.gov-truth.com Ed

        Ok Tomothy, we can see that you have been sold on the one world government idea, and believe that the UN is here to stay. But you really should accept that there are many out there who disagree with you. The UN was created as a replacement for the failing League of Nations as a stage on which nations could air their problems with other nations. It was NOT created to issue orders, nor tax, and certainly NOT to supercede our Congress as you suggest so please stop saying that we created it to tell the world what to do, and then don’t follow its dictates. Our entry into Libya was entirely illegal, as no Congressional discussion or authority was obtained. The UN has absolutely NO authority in this country – to accept such an authority is to relinquish our sovereignty and I for one hope that never happens.

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          Treaties are the law of the land according to the constitution. Therefore, to say that the UN, a treaty created organization, to which nearly every nation on earth is a signatory, can not require us to act is simply wrong. The part of the UN treaty that gives the Security Council the authority to act globally is one of the main parts and when there is unanimous action from all the members of the security conuncil, we are required to act by that treaty to which congress agreed in 1947. That treaty, and its acceptance by congress and the president in 1947 says that when there is a unanimous decision for specifc action, then all the members are required to act accordingly.

          Legal. Constitutional. And morally correct.

          Besides, who are we to ask the rest of the world to abide by the treaties to which all are signatories, but not apply that accountability to ourselves. It’s hypocritcal. It’s arrogant. It’s not logical.

          So let’s work to get our own government to allow direct public elections for representatives to the UN so that we the people may have a more direct voice in the UN.

      • CJM2

        Don’t bet on it, Timothy Wilson…we do NOT need the UN at our voting booths and we do NOT need the UN to dictate to America, period. They need to leave our country and let them bleed some other nation dry…we have given more than our fair share and all those bloated goats want is more. The only reason they are here in the first place is because the hate monering racist groups have demanded it–just to make themselves look good, I suppose. NAACP and the ilk didn’t like it when the MAJORITY of Americans demanded criminal charges be processed against the black panthers when they threatened elderly white citizens with baseball bats at the voting places. Really? this is your idea of expanding justice? Thanks for your time in the service, but my family served as well and they didn’t die so some funky, anti-American slop could come over here and interrupt our voting process—it’s enough that the so-called incumbent is bent on keeping honest service personnel from having their right to vote completely eradicated.

      • Janice

        Tim…Thank you for your thorough, rational & accurate comments. Amid a flood of hysterical, misinformed posts…a breath if fresh air. Pls continue.

      • Karolyn

        We may not “need” the UN observers, but what difference does it make if they’re there? Who really cares? Making mountains ot of molehills is what too many people do.

  • Tim Williamson

    We send election observers from the US, US citizens, via the UN, all around the world. Do you think that it’s hypocritical of us to deny requests by minorities who feel as if their concerns about the election process cannot be addressed in certain states? Yes! It is not only hypocritcal, it’s ignorant. We, as in us in the USA, do work to ensure that elections are fair, open and honest around the world through the UN now and serve as election observers worldwide. Are you telling me that is alright for us to observe elections in other states, but how dare they come and watch our elections in areas where there is potential for abuse? Such a thing is non-sense and arrogant and hypocritcal.

    The UN is not leaving. We created it. We made it, and we have been signatories to UN treaties since 1947. So the UN is not going away.

    Since we are NOT getting out of the UN, then maybe we should push the US to allow elections of our representatives to the General Assembly of the UN. And since the Security Council makes decisions for the entire world, have any of you called and talked with any of those UN Missions from England, France, the US, Russia or China? They do make decisions that affect the entire planet. Should they not hear from us.

    We’re NOT getting out. Our ties are only growing stronger. Since we’re staying in the UN, what suggestions do you have to fix it?

    Hubbard is wrong on this issue. It tells the world that we want them to abide by the rules, the rule of law and the treaties to which we are signatories, but we don’t want those rules applied to us. That is the height of ignorance, arrogance and follishness.

    • JohnC

      Just like the UN sanctioned an Illegal air war aginst the state of Libya which resulted in the death of Gadaffi ( executed without a trial ) tell me about the rightgeous UN again….. they are hypocrits …the war against Libya was for the OIl France needed….and had a major stake in…..Now its controlled by the mMuslim brotherhood …who thru their affiliation with Al-Queda and Hesballah killed our Ambassador

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        The war in Libya was not illegal. It was sanctioned by unanimous approval of the UN Security Council of which the USA is part.

      • JohnC

        The air war was never approved of by Congress ( that is illegal ) against the war powers act and our constituion

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        John we gave the UN the authority to require our action for these events in 1947 when we signed the UN treaty.
        We’re not going to get out of the UN. The entire world is becoming smaller and smaller day by day. The rules we expect others to follow should also apply to us.
        The accelerating inter-dependence of one state upon another will not reverse. Stickling our heads in the sand will only get our butts burnt.
        So now we must work to make the UN more reflective of our values. One way would be to push our government to allow direct elections of our representatives to the UN.

      • Chester

        Mr. Khadaffi’s death was NOT a direct result of any action by the US, or any other foreign power, but at the hands of his OWN people. All we did was make it possible for them to speak to him without fear of being executed where they stood.

    • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

      Tim like Unions the United Corrupt Nations has seen its day and we Americans no longer want or Need IT. Let’s start fixing this Country and SCREW the REST of the Worthless Radical Anti American Nations. Get rid of the Muslim Cult in this Country especially the Sharia Law idiots already in our Courts and Congress and especially this Piece of Crap Marxist Muslim President Abomination. Viet Nam Vet 67-68

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Thanks for your service. I served in the US military in the Navy and in the Marines and my son is on his second tour of duty in a predator squadron, a son-n-law going to Afghanistan in January, So! Thanks!
        Since getting rid of the UN is NOT going to happen, then would it not be wise to pursue actions that move the UN more toward our values. Global connections are not going to reverse, but are rather going to accelerate as we need more interaction with the UN and the rest of the world.
        Let’s work instead to get our government to allow for direct elections of our representatives to the UN.

      • Sol of Texas

        Tim —

        It is very rare for someone to serve in both the Navy and Marines. Just what did you do in each?

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          No! It’s not the rare. I enlisted in the Navy, then was Commissioned in the USMC after grauduating from the Naval Academy. Intell…..

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        http://www.facebook.com/williamsoncontracting if you want to know more.

        • http://google gary gerke

          Right on!!!!!! There is no place in our judicial system for any laws other than US laws. Any judge and or jury thatjudicates on Sharia law or any other laws other than our US constitutional laws are in contempt of the very laws that they have taken an oath to uphold.

  • JohnC

    We do not need the UN observing ANY elections in the US but we do need our own election observers being allowed in to observe votes…In Philadelpia there was av video, evidence where a poll watcher was denied access to a polling place by a democrat poll worker …he never did gain access even though he had the right to do so …the police did not enforce the law he had to leave what happend in that polling place…was voter fraud …another video showed New Black panter memebers standing ouside a Pfhiladelpha polling place with a night stick …he was preventing republicans from voting…It was never investigated by Eric Holder …another incident of voter fraud…what we need is a national guard presence patrol at every voting place to prevent this from happening again. and the removal of anyone trying to prevent people from entering to cast their vote

    • eddie47d

      I knew it wouldn’t be long before someone brought up the NBPs. No voter intimadation occurred,no “republicans” where denied the right to vote(nice but false try on your part) The situation WAS investigated but you can’t punish anyone when a crime wasn’t committed. You have to have actual fraud in order for there to be “voter fraud”.

      • JohnC

        I have copies of the video

      • JohnC

        I made copies of both videos just in case they were to dissappear from the internet ..the incidents happend in Pennsylvania and were aired on the News in that state …As I lived there
        saw them both live and online

      • kaokie

        What does a picture of two NBP’s holding a wood version of a bat, standing in front of a sign that says ‘vote here’, tell you? They wanted a cup of tea? The faux atty. general Eric “My People” Holder said he wasn’t going to prosecute – BHO backed him up – end of story.

    • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

      We observe elections via the UN worldwide. We demand, basically, access to states where there is or was the potential for election fraud. Is it not wrong, arrogant and just plain stupid of us to demand that others follow the rule of law and the treaites to which we are signatories, but that those same rules don’t apply to the USA? That’s just crazy. It makes us look foolish.

      • JohnC

        Tim we do not need the UN in our country to observe our elections they have no legitimate purpose doing anything within our borders and are not Authorized to do so under our constituion … they were never elected by our people and do not represent us as far as I am Concerned the UN should be disbanded ..they are the cause of many conflicts in the world …witness Libya and the illegal air war in support of the Muslim brothehood there…causeing the murder of Gadhaffi ( executed without a trial ) and you spout to me there legitimacy…we helped terrorist take over Libya…for what…so that France would not loose its Libyan Oil supply

      • CJM2

        The United States NEVER gave the UN any sort of permission–they don’t need to be here, period. We have OUR laws and are not bound by whatever the UN says or does and American citizens intend to keep it that way. The majority of Americans want us out of the UN and banned from conducting business in this country. If you wish to reside in a country that “cooperates to the fullest” with the UN, then by all means, the world doesn’t stop at our borders–go join them.

  • jimkroeger

    I say…buy the U.N. a one way ticket back to their third world country!!! Get the HELL out of America!!!

    • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

      Not going to happen. So how do you suggest we fix it?

      • SASQUACH

        shoot on site

      • Barbara

        Start by not paying the yearly dues for the countries who do not pay their dues. Any country that does not pay their yearly dues has their voting rights taken away. That is in the UN charter.

      • Karolyn

        Sasquatch – So glad you are just a myth.

    • NVRAT

      I agree! kick the corrupt bastards out. then get out of the UN permanently.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Get the UN OUT of America and get America OUT of the UN!!!

    • Isabella

      i ask the same think. Move the UN. where they belong. Bunch of communists and thiefs.

  • Lorene

    They are coming to suppress those who are working to suppress voter fraud

    It’s a sick world!

    • NVRAT

      They are coming to make sure Conservatives are not harassing voters. At least that is what I read on another site. Nothing was said about Black Panthers, ACORN or other Liberal movements to intimidate and restrict the voting process.

      • MD

        “Nothing was said about Black Panthers, ACORN or other Liberal movements to intimidate and restrict the voting process”. Which site is this? Communist News Network? Have you ever seen pictures of black panthers armed and not allowing whites to vote? Have you ever read that ACORN had dead people voting? Left and communists are cheaters throughout the world! That is their second nature. My friend caught them in 2008 listing her mother as a democrat voter, and the woman died in 1998.
        When the picture of your surrounding gets this twisted, you are leaning toward schizophrenia.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Who are “they” claiming are suppressing votes.
      It only means that the Dems/Progs/Leftists are doing the suppressing and then crying foul.

      • carrobin

        It’s the Republicans who have been trying to change the voting rules to make voting harder (if not impossible) for Democratic voters. It’s a right-wing company that made the Ohio voting machines that produced far more Republican votes in 2004 than expected, but had no paper trail. And now Romney’s son has gotten into the game. Why is it that voting machines, becoming more and more common now, are not required to be checked for accuracy and to have paper trails for follow-up inquiry? While howling about “voter fraud” that never happened, the Republicans are actively trying to prevent anyone from voting anything but Republican. It’s a sinister situation that could well destroy the democratic system in this country, as ultra-wealthy Republicans take over the government for their own ends.

  • James Maxwell

    This is almost as bad as Jimmy “Peanut” Carter observing elections in other coutnries. Just
    more of the dysfunctional socialist mentality in operation. To allow such countries as
    the UN reprsents into observe our eleciton process is foolish at best. The majority of
    the nations represented by this organization are corrupt and thier citizens do not have
    access to fair elections or freedom to pursue thier dreams in life. The are subjucated
    to the whims of the tin pot dictators that rule their countries. This is nothing more than
    one more socialist scam trying to sway and influence our election to “help” their socialist
    brother in the White House win the election. If they show up in my area they might get
    a unplesant suprise by the residents. I have a strong suspission that the same might
    apply in most states although if they show up in Chicago the new black muslim thugs
    might welcome them with open night sticks.

  • Alex

    The United States has sent election observers to various world locations to monitor for
    unfair or illegal voting practices. There is clearly need for foreign observers here, after the 2000 and 2004 elections, the ACORN problems, and now, the spreading large-scale
    multi-state voter fraud scandal by Nathan Sproul andthe GOP financed Strategic Allied Consultants.

    Add on top of that the fact that the son of Mitt Romney owns voting machines in several states, perhaps most importantly in Ohio.

    You Fright Wingers are such hypocrites—-if a relative of President Obama purchased voting machines for THIS election, you would be beside yourselves with judgement—why
    are so few of you unwilling to call out the very obviously inappropriateness of Romney’s
    action?

    President Obama will still be reelected, that seems pretty clear—-and thank God, THIS time, for the Electoral College, which should prevent Mitt from usurping the White House.
    If President Obama does not win then you can bet that Nathan Sproul and SAC, along with the Tagg Romney voting machines will become a much bigger issue than they are at the
    moment.

    This election may well take longer to sort out than the Bush Regime election theft of 2000.

    • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

      ALEX, your Party second election Bush Jr., your Democrat head election official was caught with voting machines in his car just after he and his second in charge was asked if they knew whwere these machines were !!!! This was in Florida where you DemoRATS claimed Bush was cheating. You DemoRATS also got caught in Severasl Counties in the Chicago area where more dead people voted than the county had voters and you now have Acorn still being supported by Abomination and funded by Abomination so take your New Communist Party and your Piece of Crap Marxist Muslim President who wipes his ass with his left hand and move to a Communist or Muslim Country of your choice and take the United Corrupt Nations with you.

      • http://comcast the fisherman

        Cry like a babby when you can not get your way. We have to keep a eye on the children ass ho—

    • MD

      I am a doctor and you have a very twisted view of the world you live in. President that sends 4 Americans into death and lies about it; bows down to the worst of dictators during his first tour through middle east; the biggest spender the world has ever known (of none less than your money – that is if you work, which could as well be utopia), but wants to cut down on military; drives us into the ground economically; had black panthers in PA in 2008; does not allow you to look into his school records; wants to take from the ” rich” aka hard working people to give to illegals, since he has done nothing about the immigration issues other than given amnesty to illegals – an illegal act in itself, right before the elections… so he can get Hispanic vote . Country drowning in debt, but he has played over 100 rounds of golf so far in 4 years. Has a solution to make women equal.. give them contraceptive pill.
      Something, somehow made you believe, that for the first time in his life, he won’t cheat.. and that is… none less than… ELECTIONS.
      Please tell me the area where you live. I know some doctors that could maybe help you.

      • Karolyn

        What does your being a doctor have to do with anything?

      • Sol of Texas

        MD —

        Don’t worry, Doc. The progressive may not have fully explained how ObamaCare will make everything wonderful.

        If I were a doctor, I’d be retiring or looking for a new line of work.

        How many times can a person watch another person deliberately try cut his own throat before viewing it with a certain detachment?

    • http://alsina846.wordpress.com Magalia M. Leon

      To Alex, you are a idiot and a communist who hates America, supporting and standing up for obama, who has done so much damage to our country with his failed policies. obama is bowing down to the UN and wants to hand over our sovereign to the UN, that is not acceptable. Moron!!!

  • http://loboviejo.wordpress.com loboviejo

    The question is what authority the OSCE has to do anything other than whine to the NYT-Wapo cartel and to whom are they responsible? The answers are that they have no power and they answer to no one.

  • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

    WARSAW, 24 October – Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, the Director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), expressed his grave concern today over the threat of criminal prosecution of OSCE/ODIHR election observers.

    This threat, contained in an open letter from the Attorney General of Texas, is at odds with the established good co-operation between OSCE/ODIHR observers and state authorities across the United States, including in Texas, Lenarčič said, adding that it is also contrary to the country’s obligations as an OSCE participating State.

    The ODIHR Director shared his concerns in a letter to United States Secretary of State Hilary Clinton.

    “The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarčič said. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.”

    We’re such hypocrits. We demand that others are held accountable and that the rule of law as provided for in our treaties with the UN apply to everyone else but not ourselves. Ridiculous! Ignorant! Foolish!

    • Karolyn

      Son’t you know the US is above anything that other countries participate in because it is so special and should be exempt from dong what other cooperative countries do.

      • Karolyn

        “Don’t”

    • DaveH

      Why do you keep saying the same thing over and over again, Timothy? Are you trying to train the readers like parrots? Look into Timothy’s eyes, Folks. You are getting sleepy. Nah, you’re just bored with his repetitive inane comments.

    • DaveH

      Timothy says — “We’re such hypocrits”. And then “Ridiculous! Ignorant! Foolish!”.
      You must be quite the threat on the playground, Timothy.

  • tim

    We have our own constitution and laws and the UN is trying to change our laws and our constitutions with thier long list of treaties. This is a way for the UN to make new laws for us to follow. A lot of these laws /treaties over-ride our constitution and laws. Thier always trying to get us to sign some treaty for clean air, see the montreal treaty which was approved by our stupid senate. Willing to bet half of them didn’t read it!!! Wait until this law is in full effect. Hope you have alot of money saved up to fix your’e refrigerator or air conditioner. Theres a whole lot of other stuff in there that will make you sick!!!! Problem is, were the only ones who end up following these laws!!! The UN is trying to get us to follow international law, instead of our own laws and constitutional rights!!!! They have been trying to take our guns away for years in thier hitler gun grabbing type treaty. Small arms treaty, that’s [expletive deleted], its a gun grabbing treaty. It will be alot easier for thier ONE world gov’t to happen. This is what the whole thing is all abolut. Control of the whole world!!!!! You will have one leader who will appoint his little dictators all over the world. Why do you think the clintons and obama are so friendly with the UN. They want thier own little country, that’s why they are helping the UN try to sneak thier treaties thru…. Check it out, thier have been 2 treaties in the last month that have failed to go thru so far. Thier trying to run the last one thru again. You never hear about this crap, but it’s happening!!!!!!!! The latest one is about violating free speech and it will make the 1st amendment null and void!!!!! Fight these fools and tell your’e reps you want the UN disbanded!!!!

    • Florence

      Thanks Tim, I agree w/you and I have done extensive reading as well and it makes me ill what is happening w/ the blessings of BO and Hillary. I really don’t know if we can stop this ludicrous take over of our Constitution and rights. BO is all for globalization, the new world order, wto, etc. If he gets another 4 years there will be no turning back. Most of us on the blog seem to know what is happening but there are many more who do not and keep supporting him. He is obviously going w/whatever the un, EU and the rest of the world wants the US to do. He is such an out of control idiot! Any body who supports him is doing so blindly. They dont even know the real deal. To be a responsible voter, Every voter should do some research and stop following blindly, none of us can trust any politician to do what is in the best interest of America…

  • testament2012

    just whose interests do you believe will be served with international observers, this just adds another layer of precedence for the argument of American sovereignty, and how we never had it to start with. This is a manipulation of our Constitution, By those in political party’s and those under the disguise of organizations for social change or protection of equal rights. Their end game is the dismantling of our Constitution and our way of life, many of them may not be aware of this manipulation, their goal is two part, bring down the Churches and their credibility, then the US Constitution. Not many people are aware of this connection between our founding fathers documents and the church but neither one can or will exist without the other, not in true freedom. Attacks on crosses, 10 comandments, prayers in schools, any display of anything religous, these are all coordinated efforts to drive a wedge between Americans and God, just look at whats on tv, if its not pure evil then it probably about money or gold.

  • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

    First, the UN is not going away. We’re part of it, We made it. We agreed to it’s treaties starting in 1947.

    But it does have a problem. That problem is merely a challenge to be overcome. We need there to be representation of the people of the various states (nations) in the UN.

    So, let’s work toward getting our government to allow direct elections of our reepresentatives to the UN General Assembly and to the UN Security Council.

    • diamond1957

      I believe your wrong, The Congress of the United States never signed on to the UN charter, the UN is not here by law and it needs to leave, it has since its beginning been a socialist organization that has never represented our beliefs or values, it has been used as a hub for spying and espionage, as well as a playground by poor third world leaders living on other peoples money, while their countrymen eat dirt.

      • http://Gmail.com `

        I could not have said it better the u.n sucks.

      • Dano

        Our Senate approved of the UN treaty. Only the Senate and the prez approves international treaties that also are superior to our Constitution. The founders back doored us here and did it on purpose. But Congress including the senate can,t pass unconstitutional laws, they are automatically null an void. They also can,t overstep their limited duties beyond their 10 square miles. International treaties now are questional, maybe High Crimes and treason come into play here?

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        The UN treaty was entered into force by the US Government on 8 Aug 1945.

      • DaveH

        Read this to get a clearer picture of the evil that created the UN, and much more:
        http://library.mises.org/books/John%20T%20Flynn/While%20You%20Slept.pdf

    • Dano

      Thats all the UN has to say there was voter fraud in 100 countys thru-out the country. Then the people will be pitted against each other and chaos. Constitutional crisis and the election process be put in doubt. Watch out below.

  • s c

    ____the UN. This is a smoke screen rigged by a corrupt administration. Already instances of voter fraud are occurring. People who voted had major problems getting the ‘machine’ to accept their vote.
    Obummer, it seems, is relying on absentee ballots to compensate for any voting problems that might backfire or a low turnout. Now that the Benghazi travesty has finally come home to roost [NO MATTER WHAT THE ROUND-HEELED MEDIA WANTS], Obummer will do ANYTHING to distract voters.
    The UN should not be welcome in ANY state. Good people of Alabama, tell those utopian pimps to get the ____ out of Alabama. Remind them that ____ happens, and that you can’t guarantee that certain unwanted types can know that they’ll be “safe.” Oh, and tell them NOT to come back, too.

    • diamond1957

      I’ve read where people talk about taking up arms if Obama gets back in or tries to steal this election, and others voicing opinions about our military never taking arms up against American citizens, maybe this isn’t such a homegrown threat as some may think, this administration has sought to subjugate America to foreign laws by way of treatises, seeking UN consensus, and bowing to foreign leaders. Add it all up America, it does mean something and that something isn’t gonna make life any better for you or your children. The UN was a toe in the door, under the pretense of ending world wars, then it became the mold for a one world govt, now its about absorbing our God given rights, dismantling the individual states, and with the help of this administration and those previous to erode the very fabric that makes this nation function.

      • Janice

        Oh my. Have also read the Obama supporters will take to the streets if Romney wins.
        If true, whoever wins…we”ll see armed insurrection, riot & mayhem? Sounds like a third world response either way. Not good.

      • Karolyn

        And Janice you would give credence to these rumors just because somebody posting on a blog “heard” it?

      • DaveH

        Why should anybody give credence to your comments, Karolyn? Because your Magic Mirror said so?

      • http://Yahoo JD

        Diamond, You’ve taken the words right out of my mouth. You said it better than I could’ve. But anything we try, to get people to at least consider other peoples thoughts,or dare I say Knowledge. Show them facts,proof,comman sence, no, not just this subject, but so many issues we face,they don”t, no Won’t bother to at least here and pay attention for themselves.

    • Florence

      I agree w/you SC, the UN is not the way to go. We do not need to be sucked into letting the un and foreigh countries observe or put their 2 cents worth in our elections. They want us to fail and be under their thumbs anyway. I cannot believe how this country has just gone down the tubes since BO is in office. He has killed this country’s sovereignty, authority, credibility, everything…welcome to the 3rd world

  • Rafael

    Some so called third world countries (Peru, Chile, Brazil) are economically better than the US, their GDP are higher for the last 20 years, privatization of Social Security has worked as well as the Free Trading Treaties with Asia, US, Europe. Poverty has decreased.

    Less government regulations, more profit the people. Consumers are the best regulators.

  • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

    DaveH let me say this again. The UN is here to stay. So how do we make improvements to it?

    I know that such a request to look for ways to improve the UN may go against your innate nature, but the states of the world are becoming more and more connected and co-dependent upon eachother. We’re not growing apart, but are rather rapidly becoming one economically and socially. The trend of growing inter-dependence has been part of human nature since mankind came down from the trees and started meeting his neighbors and expanding out of the plains of east Africa.

    The bonds that bind us to others are increasing with each international business venture, with each treaty through the UN, and with each trade agreement, and military agreement.. I believe that you and many others on the page are more than sufficiently intelligent to offer viable and realistic solutions, and that you are fully capable of working to influence governments and states to make the appropriate changes so that the UN is more representative of the numerous peoples of the world.

    One way would be to get our government to allow for direct public elections to the UN. I know that you have not been so blinded by fear of the world outside our borders that you can’t see the logic of such a thing.

    Here’s my point, no matter what you would like to see, the truth is we are part of the UN, we helped create it, and we agreed to abide by the treaty that gives it power on the world stage.

    Treaties have the force of law in our country according to the constitution. Therefore, regardless of your feelings about the issue, The UN is a legit global body through which we must act or we will get left in the sands of time.

    • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      You are right the UN is here to stay. What needs to go is the security council. That’s a joke.

      • DaveH

        The fact that the Liberal Progressive Eric agrees with you, Timothy, proves that you’re wrong.

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          So let’s fix it. Tell me how you would improve the UN. It’s not going away, So get over it and be part of the solution. Parachialism and narrowmindedness should be long dead in a modern world.
          History also tells us that those states who close themselves off and put their heads in the sand, will disappear in the sands of time. We’re either part of the solution or we will go into decline.
          Let’s work to make the system better. Make some realistic and viable solutions then stand by them.
          Part of the problem with the current UN system is that people feel disengaged from the process. I believer that that can be remedied by getting our government to allow direct public elections of our representatives to the Security Council and to the General Assembly. What do you think?

      • solemn vow 2012

        the UN is here as long as the American people say so, and thats the truth.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Thanks Eric. Dave, I’m a realist, a statistician, and observer of trends, a student of American and world history, a student of economics and economic history and trends in economics nationally and globally, former US Marine and US Navy, with family serving our country now. To call Eric a progressive is far better than being an acknowledged anarchist and isolationist. I am a progressive because I believe in a better tomorrow, and because I am working toward that objective for all of us, not because of some ridiculous and wrongheaded attempt at falacious word associations.

        We need solutions, not more baseless hyperbole, The past is gone and is not coming back.

        Make some positive suggestions Dave. How would you change the current UN system? Remember now, it’s not going away. Offer solutions.

    • kaokie

      How about trying to use some ‘common sense’? More pertinent rules and regulations regarding who gets appointed to sit on a particular council, such as the Council on Human Rights: only those who know and practice basic human rights in their country will be allowed to be part of the council?

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        I agree with that. And, thoise rules are being worked on as we speak. But I also think that we should be pushing our government to allow direct public elections of our representatives to the UN – particularly the General Assembly, the Security council. If the Security council is going to make decisions that affect the entire planet, then we should have a representative voice in those matters.
        I’ve called all five permanent members of the UN Security Council and told them that since they are making decisions for the world, then they will hear from me and my friends.

      • DaveH

        Timothy says — “I’ve called all five permanent members of the UN Security Council and told them that since they are making decisions for the world, then they will hear from me and my friends”.
        Oh? Crony Capitalist are you, Timothy? It figures.
        So, there you have it Folks. Timothy and his Cronies in Williamson Contracting are taking full advantage of the UN to feather their own nests.

        • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

          What is your ideal America?

    • EvilGenius

      Timothy:

      The Supreme Court of the United States has formally ruled that any treaty with any country or organization (U.N.) does not overrule the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      Just wanted to make that clear.

      By the way, the U.S. gives in membership fees; the amount of $280 billion dollars per year to the U.N. and we even sponsor a few other countries for an additional $120 million.

      Now the U.N. wants to tax the world including the only sovereign nation left (US) for just about everything you can think about.

      The U.N. as the League of Nations before it, has been nothing but a boil on the ass of the world since it was founded. Evil organization born in the pit of hell Read up on Lucis Trust (the official Printing company for the U.N.).

    • DaveH

      Don’t confuse your dependence on other peoples’ money with the countries of the world being dependent on each other Timothy. You can repeat your Propaganda over and over again, but it will still just be Propaganda.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        There’s no propaganda here Dave, just historically supportable trends and facts. The is growing smaller. The bonds that tie us together are strengthening daily. It’s foolish to stick your head in the sand a pretent the trends something different.

        Dave, you still did not answer the challenge. Given that the UN is here to stay, and that we are going to stay in it, how do we make it better?

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Dave, Daniel Greenfield is a Jewish Israeli. His nation would not exist today were it not for the UN. He only has one main overarching theme in his works, his hatred of everything Islam. Now tell me, why would anyone listen to him on the UN? They shouldn’t.

        Dave, what kind of America would you like to see, ideally that is?

    • DaveH

      Timothy says — “One way would be to get our government to allow for direct public elections to the UN. I know that you have not been so blinded by fear of the world outside our borders that you can’t see the logic of such a thing.”.
      What logic, Timothy? What I see is a Progressive projecting his phobias on the rest of us. I’m not afraid of the World. I want to trade peaceably with them. It is you and your cowardly cohorts, Timothy, who are dependent on Forcing others to do things your way with your Big Government Bullies.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Dave, I have no fears about expanding and strengthening global engagement – it is in the best interests of every state on earth. You will not experience some kind of apocalypse, nor will you see the demise of America.
        The fears you speak of are yours and yours alone. I have none.

    • DaveH

      Timothy,
      Don’t make me say this again. The UN is a failure, and always has been, since it was created By the Leaders For the Leaders to feather their nests and those of their Crony Capitalists.
      We need to Abolish the UN!
      Here are just 10 reasons why:
      http://frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/UN.pdf

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Largest Gaps by far Ever Recorded Between Pre-Election Polls, Exit Polls and Vote Count Nationwide were in 2004 Bush Election. Just sayin!

    Investigative reporter Greg Pallast has done more to research and expose voter fraud than any body else. You’ll be shocked with his findings I am sure because it wasn’t Acorn. you’ll deny it’s possible, you’ll accuse him of working for the opposition but then someday you’ll realize the Republicans were the best by far at voter fraud.

    I like Gary Johnson, Rocky Anderson, Jill Stein there are alternatives!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      Eric says: but then someday you’ll realize the Republicans were the best by far at voter fraud.

      It must suck to be a Democrat and realize that you are only second-best at voter fraud…?

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    I know you are all obsessed with Eric Holder lately but why aren’t John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales in Jail?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      Because they all belong to the same gang! They’re blood-brothers, don’t you know?

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    I like Missouri. Didn’t they vote for the dead guy Mel Carnahan instead of John Ashcroft who probably had something to do with his death in the first place. A similar weird airplane accident like Paul Wellstone.

    Just think we could have had McGovern, the most decent man in congress, for President. But Nooo we went for Nixon instead. That was a great move wasn’t it.

    We might have had Paul Welstone for President but he is dead, and they may have killed him too, after all he was the Bush Cheney number one enemy.

    Do you see a pattern here!

    • http://www.facebook.com/allen.risch Allen Risch

      i hope they leave ron paul alone that man had a hell of a chance if not for the bias news

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Hey did you hear that Tagg Romney has a stake in election machines in Ohio. Hummm I wonder why?

    • kaokie

      Who told you that?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      The Ties that Biden – Crony Capitalism again?

      David Richter, the president of Hill International (HIL), a mid-sized outfit that manages construction projects, was speaking last year at a private meeting with investors when he was asked about the recent success of his newest subsidiary, HillStone International.

      How was it that HillStone, a newcomer in the business of home building, landed a massive and potentially lucrative contract to build 100,000 homes in war-torn Iraq?

      Richter didn’t mince words. It really helps, he said, to have “the brother of the vice president as a partner,” according to a person who was present.

      The “brother” Richter was referring to during the meeting is James Biden, the younger brother of Vice President Joe Biden.

      Since November 2010, James Biden has been the executive vice president of Hill International’s housing subsidiary despite little if any documented work history in residential construction. And if the company’s projections are accurate, both Hill and Biden are on the verge of a huge payday, beneficiaries, some analysts believe, of James Biden’s connections to the Obama Administration through his older brother.

      Indeed, the Iraq project may be the most lucrative single development in Hill’s history. Since 2011, Hill, located in Marlton, NJ., has been losing money; the shares were recently trading at $3.82, down about 28% this year on New York Stock Exchange trading.

      And some analysts remain dubious about the completion of the Iraq project, including those at Sidoti & Company, which slashed earnings estimates on Friday. But if company officials are to be believed — and there’s good reason to believe them given Hill’s connections to the Obama Administration — Hill will be solidly profitable once the Iraq development gets underway. Company officials say the Iraq project is slated to generate
      $1.5 billion in revenues over the next three years, more than three times all the revenues Hill produced in 2011.

      http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2012/10/the-ties-that-biden-crony-capitalism-again-2509896.html

    • solemn vow 2012

      does it matter, I’ve owned many shares at times, no one ever listened to me, plus Mitts investments are in a blind trust, do you know what that means??? I know you just asked a question and made no accusation, but still does it really matter???

  • http://www.facebook.com/andreas.zieser Zieser Andreas

    UN is an US puppet paid by US taxpayers. Our wars run in the UN’s name

  • braindeadus

    You know what really needs to go is the UN itself. Why waste our money on phoney organizations.

  • SomewhereInTexas

    Some people say blue helmets make easy targets…..not advisable for UN stooges to show up in Texas. The whole damned cesspool should be thrown out and no American financial support for it. Worthless, damaging organization. Only liberals are stupid enough to finance their own destruction. Move UN headquarters to Libya or some other moozlim enclave. Get out of my country. UN is not needed or wanted by the vast majority of Americans. Put it to a vote. See how many of us want to pay for the bastards.

    • http://InternetExplorer H. Tarro

      ABSOLUTELY!! Since when do we need ANYONE outside of our country to monator our elections??

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

    The UN is a organization in where tyrants, war-lords, military-coup-leaders, monarchs and leaders of one party-states, are the majority. How then, can we expect, any form of moral-legitimacy from such an organization? Why does the left look to the UN as a paragon of virtue, when, if they were introduced to those who are casting their votes on an individual basis, they would wipe their hands afterwards? The UN is full of nasty tin-pot dictators and miscreants.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

    2012 Selection ‘Surprise’: Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are Cousins.

    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/2012-selection-surprise-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney-are-cousins/

  • http://twitter.com/ericbischoff Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Oh and by the way morons, the reason we’re going to have UN monitors for our election is because the rest of the educated world is aware that the Conservatives and republicans have been disenfranchising voters, throwing away ballots, even the military ones, rigging voting machines, sending out voting literature with the wrong voting dates and on and on. And they started this ruthless stop the vote campaign by attacking a volunteer non-profit organization that helped the poor and registered voters and making it look like they were the ones responsible for voter fraud. Never mind the fact that the conservative republicans have been up to no good long before Acorn. The Bush elections were stolen but you people are too stupid and arrogant to know what’s going on in your own country. Ya Ya Ya keep yourselves glued to GOP Fox News.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jayson

      In total agreement, Eric. There can be no doubt that voter-fraud exists! But if what you are suggesting is true; “Only the Republicons engage in voter-fraud”, how do you explain; Obama, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Franklin D. Roosevelt…ect…? Dare i say it, Eric? On second thought, i can’t possibly imagine the left stooping so low; can you?

    • http://Yahoo JD

      You know Eric, I don’t agree with your statment as far as the Repubs since the Dems have been proven to have done that, so far,it was only
      allagations by Dems. But, My main concern is that you, an American would even possibly have no problem with NON American citizens being anywhere near our voting stations. How many WW2,vets would’ve had no problem with that,I wonder. I was born in “47″, I have a problem with that. Start being proud to be an American Eric. She has problems, but we will take care of her, not any other NON AMERICAN source.

      • solemn vow 2012

        people need to lift themselves up above this party loyalty garbage, where ever there is money you’ll soon find disreputable lawyers and corruption. Trial lawyers own and operate the democratic party thats why you’ll never see them support tort reform, as far as republicans go, I dont trust them either, the problem lies in incombents and their power bases that keep them in office as well as keep this Nation mired in the same old bulls–t.

    • nickkin

      You liberal misfit….you thrive on lies by the left because that is what feeds your mush-brain mind…..you glorify your world, like all leftists that eventually eat you own. Your everyday lives consist of you, you and you. You are hybrids like your green machine , clean air windmills that eventually lose wind and all you have left is your own body-gas….otherwise identified as a big-FART !!

    • nickkin

      Hey Eric……I know how you can get an autograph from Cris (thrill up my leg)Matthews. Tell him that your thrills start from your heini and go into your leftside-liberal brain!!

    • Sol of Texas

      Eric — It is not a UN organization. And they are not poll watchers.

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        Sol, good to see that someone else knows what the OSCE represents though most will only see that the distinction between the OSCE and the UN is merely semantics – separated only by the EU.

        My biggest concern about this entire discussion is that we in the US are telling the world by our actions that they must follow the rules of law and treaty, but that those same rules do not apply to us. It’s a double standard. It’s morally and legally indefensible for us to complain about election observers coming here when we send election observers via that very same organization to nations around the world.

  • Strightothepoint 2012

    We Don’t need the U.N. for that purpose !!!Infact I We should stop funding the U.N. and tell them to leave our Country!!!

    • http://Yahoo JD

      In total agreement with you. Since inception, UN has been nothing but a spy nest that America, should throw the hell out. Now Hillary is helping to expand its influence over the U.S. She the die hard Progressive, since her days in collage. Look at even one of her mentors. In NO WAY, the U.N. has any power over the U.S. And no one in the world can have power over us, or it will be the end for us, and all the FREE world. Damn America please start paying attention.

  • John White

    The USA dreamed up the UN just check the history. USA wars are all carried out under the UN banner. and now you wonder why so many people around the world have a hatred for the US just look at the way the USA runs roughshod over some many countries

    • http://Yahoo JD

      John, I don’t know how old your are, but you are so wrong. SO, so wrong.

    • solemn vow 2012

      you leave out what wars and why they were fought, and wasn’t it American soldiers manning those foxholes, while the world may say put your money were your mouth is, America has put its best there the US soldier, and many times it benefited us very little. Americas graveyards are full of fallen heroes that guarantee “you” the freedom to post your opinion, don’t ever forget that, and the UN couldn’t give damn about it.

    • nickkin

      Do you know what the Americn flag looks like? Ask some WW2 and nam vets which flag they carried…..foreign troops from europe may have carried the un flag.

      • Sol of Texas

        For accuracy it hasn’t been just US troops in many of the wars alluded to. For example, Australia has sent its troops in cooperation with the US in both Korea (a UN sponsored “Security Action”) and Vietnam (not UN sponsored).

        They also deployed troops in support of the US in the Gulf War (UN Security Council resolutions 660 & 678), and both Iraqi Freedom (not authorized by the UN Security Council) and Afghanistan (sort of authorized by the UN Security Council through resolution 1386).

  • solemn vow 2012

    Did this not all begin with this administration? wasn’t it this administration that admitted guilt to the UN for human abuses, and left America open to be judged by the world? And who gave this authority? Obama, Clinton, who do these people think they are? Hillary wasn’t elected she was appointed, and Obama is an impostor, who picks and chooses what laws he will recognize and enforce, declares America is not a Christian Nation then recognizes gay marriages, open gay service in the military, leaves our southern border open to infiltration while falsely claiming greater protection, all the while U.S. citizens are being murdered by illegal aliens, not to mention subverting the law and supplying drug gangs with guns and then allowing them to cross over into Mexico without their consent or even knowledge, with the result of Border patrol officers deaths as well as countless Mexican citizen’s deaths. We could all write a book on this and still not cover it all, and now American sovereignty is to be made subject to the UN’s (the worlds) judgement as the final say, and that its judgement will sit above our laws, nay, America may have problems but by no means are we at the mercy of this world, America shall be judged, when the most high God judges her for America is a Christian Nation and no one can deny it.

    • solemn vow 2012

      maybe the biggest problem we face here in America in having two major political party’s( I’m not advocating for more) is that they are not representing the people, they are representing their own needs to achieve their own goals or agendas all the while disguising and misrepresenting it as our needs, since the depth of this problem goes deeper than we may ever know, our only recourse is term limits, and abolish any special interest groups(or individuals) involvement with the politicians.

    • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

      No! Election monitors began in the US in 2002.

      • solemn vow 2012

        then it needs to end 2012, or soon after.

    • Sol of Texas

      They are not poll watchers. In some respects this is much adieu about nothing.

      OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe). has 56 member nations. They have neither authority not diplomatic immunity. They were invited to observe US elections at least as far back as 2002 by our federal government.

      By its own statement …
      “Some OSCE field operations carry out elections-related activities, including training for election commission members, media and police as well as voter education initiatives. They do not, however, take part in election observation missions in their countries of operation.”

      They have no authority (as yet) over US elections and are not empowered to violate state election laws. They generate reports which are posted on their website.
      See: http://www.osce.org/what/elections

  • nickkin

    Take the UN and put it were the sun-don’t-shine…..them damn dole-takers have had free rent and u.s funds to darn long,,,,,they do nothing, give no protection and show up with pompous heini’s acting like they run the world……where were they with Bengazi…they are a conglomerate of misfits, retards (politically correct) do nothings that eventually will want free membership in unions with all the American bene’s. Die and go to ___!

  • Mary

    Barack Hussein Obama, in defiance of Section 9 of the United States Constitution, was the first American president to preside over the UN Security Council on 9/12/09. The UN is likely the headquarters for the NWO. Get the UN out of America and get Obama out of office!

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      Git er done !

      • http://williamsoncontracting.wordpress.com timothywilliamson

        There’s nothing in Section 9 of the US Constitution that says the President can’t preside over councils and meetings. Which part are you referring to?

    • Sol of Texas

      Mary —

      Are you referring to Article 1 Sections 9? I don’t follow your comments as it relates to Article 1 Section 9.

      Here is the text of Article 1 Section 9 …

      Section 9
      1: The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

      2: The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

      3: No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

      4: No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.7

      5: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

      6: No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

      7: No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

      8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

  • John

    What a joke foreigners watching over the American Elections, sorry but is this in a Banana Republic which has a civil war going on or America, in Canada I’ve been a monitor at an election for the party I support but I’m a Canadian and all those monitors present were Canadians and belonged to the party they were monitoring for NO FOREIGNERS or none appointed monitors present to the best of my knowledge AS IT SHOULD BE.
    B.T.W. to vote WE Have To SHOW VOTER ID and bring our voter card if your name is not on the list you DON’T vote unless you can prove you have the right to vote No Vote.
    Elections are happening every 2 or 4 years in the U.S.A. this problem seem to come up often why have there not been rules and regulations made up in all this time to cover this problem.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “What a joke foreigners watching over the American Elections, sorry but is this in a Banana Republic which has a civil war going on or America,”

      With all of the talks the last 12 years (and it sure ramped up in the last 4) of fraud at the voting booth, that is what we are. Or at least that is what is seems like from those outside our country and to a lot of people inside this country. Personally, I’ve have had enough. Hopefully, this will stop (at least in this election) the calls of fraud.

      And what do you do if you show up at your polling place with your voters card and your photo ID and you are not on the list? On any of the lists? Do you just turn around and go away and say that the people responsible for removing your name meant well? That it’s no problem, you’ll just vote in the next election?

      • bakerjohn

        The card is mailed to you and you can check the list before voting (the list is available a few weeks before) to make sure you are on it, never had any problem other than a vote after a move and your address has not been corrected then with proof of ID you can still vote.

  • John

    Many Many many years ago I used to have respect for the U.N. when they did some good for humanity now it’s just a POLITICAL conglomerate run by politicians, out there with their own agenda NOT what’s good for humanity anymore now it’s going toward one Dictatorial Government laying down laws and rules on free democratic countries that benefit No one But the Politicians and the Powerful and the Wealthy, disregarding the average Joe and Jane who end up paying for ALL THIS B.S. while they are the ones that can’t afford it

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      the U.N. is a parasite on the USA…The NWO is pulling it’s strings and the U.S. taxpayer is paying for most of it…Get the U.N. to hell out of this country now! When they send the U.N. troops to get our guns they better bring a lot of body bags with them ..They will need them to get back to where they came from.

  • http://wichitaobserver.com sig516

    We need to ban the UN completely from America……not just a few of its minions.

  • http://none dan

    are they also going to be in philly and tampa where the black panthers like to hang? i find the hypocrisay amusing……

  • http://google gary gerke

    The UN has no rights in the electorials of the USA, it is becoming more apparent that our government has accepted the fact that the UN is the new world order. These nations that want to interfere with USA laws and change the overall concept of our constitution are the enemies of the American people. Today, it is voting observations, tomorrow thanks to Hillary signing the small arms treaty with the UN we will be prosecuted for owning guns. It is only a matter of time before they demand a surrender of all arms from American citizens. The UN is not afraid of American citizens owning guns, it is our government that is afraid. Our government knows that when push comes to shove there will be a revolt against the anti-constitutional goverment. We are a nation of constitutional believers, we will not accept other nations dictating policies for us. We are a nation of around 90-million gun owners, that is why they are all scared to death…..the largest un-standing army in the world.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      Because of all the accusations of voter fraud the US is who asked for the UN monitors.

      • http://google gary gerke

        No your wrong, the US didn’t ask them the Obama administration asked for it. Obama and his merry band of political thugs want to make sure that all the illegal aliens get to vote this year!

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          This Administration represents the US Government, whether you like it or not.

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    O’ Great… The Kings are Counting the Ballots! Agenda reviseing?

    • gary gerke

      The UN…give me a break….the NWO is monterting our election, Hillary has signed the small arms treaty with the UN which will eventually caise a major up rising against the government. You cannot agree with the Un’s interence…I guess you can, you are part of the problem that is flusdioshing our nation down the toilet. But what do I know, the last four years and an Obama for another four years…….[comment has been edited], turn out the lights and kiss America as we have known it adios!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 .

  • Big Woody

    As a very white senior citizen, I am concerned with all this poll watching. I will be voting in a predominatly black city this year and am concerned that if I might be confronted by a Cossack at the polls. If I am confronted and do feel intiminated, who should I call? Where can I go to so I can feel safe while I am voting? What language must I learn so I can understand these people? What are the safeguards to insure these “observers” do not interfere with me while I am voting? If I feel terrorized, can I shoot them?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “I will be voting in a predominatly black city this year and am concerned that if I might be confronted by a Cossack at the polls.”

      We don’t have cossacks here in the US.

      “If I am confronted and do feel intiminated, who should I call? Where can I go to so I can feel safe while I am voting? ”

      Why would they confront you? They are OBSERVERS. They will not make confrontations, they will be here to verify that our election results were obtained honestly. With all the talk about either side manipulating the votes, I don’t have a problem with them being here.

      “What language must I learn so I can understand these people?”

      They will be fluent in English. There is no need to learn another language.

      What are the safeguards to insure these “observers” do not interfere with me while I am voting?”

      Why would they interfere when they are there to make sure that there is not interference? That makes no sense.

      “If I feel terrorized, can I shoot them?”

      No.

      • Big Woody

        If the UN sends “observers”, we may vary well have Cossacks here in the United States. In the second paragraph of the article, you will find that some of the observers could come from “bastions of free and fair election as Serbia, Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan.” The Cossacks live in the Ukraine and southern parts of the former Soviet Union. If they send “observers” to us, there is a very good possibillity the “observers” could be Cossacks. I doubt they will be Mormon missionaries or New Black Panthers for that matter..

        You say why would they confront me. I say why indeed? How do Cossacks or any others from that part of the world observe an election? We enjoy the right to a secret ballot. Is it still secret if we are being observed? Look up “Ukraine election fraud” to see how they run and election.

        Wikipedia lists 19 languages as being spoken in the Ukraine. English is not on the list.

        Why safeguards? As I said I believe in my secret ballot. They have a history and after the incident with the Black Panthers in 2008 which our administration refused to do anything about. I have concerns.

        And last but not least. Because they are from the UN and this is AMERICA, I still want to shoot them.
        Since I do live in Flint, Michigan, I know that nobody would notice another shooting or two. As Obama says “Just a bump in the road”

        Chill a little there tlgeer, you appear to be a little tense. ~BW~

  • Norma Morciglio

    After reading Dick Morris book, “Screwed”, I believe the only thing the UN should be allow dogs to do in the US is get out of our country, leave our money here and not try to mess with our sovereignty. They create more problems for us than they solve for anyone.

    Nmmffpl

  • Sol of Texas

    Please note that OSCE is NOT a UN organization, though it is an entity recognized by the UN. By the OSCE’s own statements, it does not permit its observers to interfere or participate directly in an election. These representatives also do not enjoy diplomatic immunity.

    Elections are governed by state laws (with the exception of provisions in the 15th, 17th, and 19th Amendments).

    Texas Election Code has provisions such that loitering violations can result in arrest and Class A Misdemeanor prosecution. Only authorized election officials (including appointed poll watchers – who must be registered voters in the county in which they serve carrying specific certification presented to the election judges) and voters are permitted inside a polling location. Anyone loitering at the polling location or within 100 foot of the entrance to the poling location is in violation. This includes news reporters.

    I am glad these discussions have brought out such awareness and emotion. It is about time that true Americans realized how much of our national sovereignty is being lost little by little.

  • tALLDARKANDHASOME

    If our goverment is screwed-up,you can bet that the UN is more screwed up!!!TIME FOR CHANGE

  • Zeropoint

    Wait what???… These UN people , are they observing or actually taking ballots and posting them? They should not be allowed to even observe as we have enough fraud already. Can’t someone just tell these guys how it works?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “These UN people , are they observing or actually taking ballots and posting them?”

      Just observing. And they were called in because all the accusations of fraud.

  • Ike

    Foreign observers are redundant and unnecessary. The George W. Bush/Al Gore election of 2000 showed that the United States is perfectly capable of botching the election process on its own. It doesn’t need U.N. observers bringing their “botching” expertise into the mix.

    Remember that the Popular Vote is a poll and that actual votes need to be counted. Al Snore won the popular vote not an actual vote but a poll!

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