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Agricultural Terrorism

March 19, 2012 by  

Agricultural Terrorism
Monsanto is the largest producer of genetically engineered seeds.

Monsanto should be named an enemy of the State. It’s definitely an enemy of the people. Instead, the company has essentially become another branch of government.

Monsanto is engaged in government-sponsored agricultural terrorism. It’s government-sponsored because there is a revolving door between the company, the Food and Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency and firms that lobby Congress on Monsanto’s behalf. Dow, Bayer, other chemical companies and Big Agriculture are Monsanto’s co-conspirators in agricultural terrorism.

In addition to contaminating our food supply with pesticides, hormones and genetic modifications, water supplies are being contaminated as well — even for those who live in the city far away from farmland. And anyone trying to grow crops uncontaminated by Monsanto’s genetically engineered (GE) frankenseeds can be slapped with a lawsuit if the prevailing winds or pollinating insects cause pollen from Monsanto-patented crops to mingle with non-Monsanto GE crops.

The Union of Concerned Scientists recently listed eight ways Monsanto fails at being a good steward of food and moves over to food and environmental terrorism:

  1. Promoting pesticide resistance: Monsanto’s Roundup Ready and Bt technologies lead to resistant weeds and insects that can make farming harder and reduce sustainability. The idea is, supposedly, to create crops that ward off insects and other pests. But the result has been to create insects that are pesticide-resistant. And even worse, application of systemic pesticides like Dow Chemical’s Clothianidin or GE crops that kill “pests” are behind the deaths of hundreds of thousands of honeybee colonies through colony collapse disorder. In almost every case, the EPA and/or FDA ignored science or used junk science to justify approval of the chemicals and crops.
  2. Increasing herbicide use: Roundup resistance has led to greater use of herbicides, with troubling implications for biodiversity, sustainability and human health. By planting crops engineered to be resistant to herbicides, farmers are able, in theory, to keep down weeds by spraying increasing amounts of herbicides. But these toxic chemicals are finding their way into our foods and contaminating our water supplies. Roundup’s key ingredient, glyphosate, is also linked to a decrease in the monarch butterfly population by killing the plants butterflies rely on for habitat and food. Roundup is also linked to the spread of fusarium head blight in wheat, which makes the crop unsuitable for human or animal consumption. Now we also know that use of these herbicides has created “super weeds” that have developed a resistance to Roundup. So Monsanto and Dow are combining to reintroduce the use of the herbicide 2, 4-D, one-half of the defoliant Agent Orange used in Vietnam. Agent Orange is a carcinogen that caused Hodgkin’s lymphoma, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, leukemia and other diseases in Vietnam veterans.
  3. Spreading gene contamination: Engineered genes have a bad habit of turning up in non-GE crops. When this happens, sustainable farmers — and their customers — pay a high price. In other words, GE crops are contaminating the crops of those who want to use natural or heirloom seeds and eat and grow foods the way God intended. There is no way of telling what long-term ramifications of these contaminated crops will have on the foods we eat – and, therefore, our health. Plus, as we mentioned above, small farmers are being attacked in courts by Monsanto if their crops — through no fault of their own — become contaminated by Monsanto GE crops. According to a report released by Britain’s Soil Association, GE crops have cost Americans $12 billion in farm subsidies in the past three years and is bankrupting wheat and cotton farmers.
  4. Expanding monoculture: Monsanto’s emphasis on limited varieties of a few commodity crops contributes to reduced biodiversity and, as a consequence, to increased pesticide use and fertilizer pollution. Monoculture, the planting of a single crop on large swaths of land, is anathema to nature. Everyone knows that crops must be rotated to keep the soil properly balanced. Different plants that bloom and pollinate at different times are essential to sustain the nourishment needed by many insects, birds and animals. Yet Monsanto, Dow and huge corporate farms disavow the laws of nature for profit, and the environment suffers. Monoculture also provides a vast feeding ground that attracts ever-stronger pests, creating a cycle of increased use of pesticides to combat the problem created by the use of monoculture and more pesticides. And when the pests, as in the case of the corn rootworm develop a resistance to the engineered pesticide, they can wipe out thousands of acres of crops, driving up food prices and causing food shortages.
  5. Marginalizing alternatives: Monsanto’s single-minded emphasis on GE fixes for farming challenges may come at the expense of cheaper, more effective solutions. Relying on genetic engineering to fix the problem creates more problems while limiting natural or less expensive solutions.
  6. Lobbying and advertising: Monsanto outspends all other agribusinesses on efforts to persuade Congress and the public to maintain the industrial agriculture status quo. Worse, as noted above, it has become a revolving door that sees members of Congress passing to the company to become executives and lobbyists, and company executives moving to the regulatory agencies to regulate their former employer. This is simply crony capitalism at its worst.
  7. Suppressing research: By creating obstacles to independent research on its products, Monsanto makes it harder for farmers and policy makers to make informed decisions that can lead to more sustainable agriculture. And through its system of crony capitalism, research benefitting the company — even when fraudulent — is approved by the regulatory agencies, while natural alternatives are suppressed or outlawed altogether. Independent organizations attempting to provide a rebuttal to the flawed research are often quashed and silenced.
  8. Falling short on feeding the world: Monsanto contributes little to helping the world feed itself, and has failed to endorse science-backed solutions that don’t give its products a central role. In fact, what Monsanto is doing is acquiring a state-sponsored monopoly on seeds. GE crops create non-renewable seeds that do not germinate from year to year. This requires the farmer to go back to Monsanto each year to purchase the seeds for the next year’s crop, rather than saving seeds and using seeds from last year’s crop (using the seed corn). This also happens to farmers using heirloom seeds whose crops are contaminated by GE crop pollen.

The European Union has mandated labeling of GM ingredients in food and feed. But that doesn’t happen in the United States, and efforts are afoot to prevent special labeling. But evidence shows that exposure to GE plants and GM feed affects food animals in many ways.

What all this means is that even with the knowledge and desire to avoid GE or GM foods, as the Monsantos and Dows of the world gain more of a hold on world agriculture, it’s going to eventually become impossible to avoid exposure to them. Even planting your own garden with heirloom seeds won’t guarantee you the ability to avoid genetic pollution if someone nearby is using GE crops and pollinators cross pollinate the fields or winds blow the pollen into your garden and it pollinates your crop.

And pesticides and GE and GM foods are being linked to myriad negative health effects including attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, obesity, diabetes and hormonal disorders. The insecticide-producing Bt gene is even being detected in the blood tests of people who eat a typical diet, including in pregnant women and their fetuses. Research shows it also kills human kidney cells.

Fascism is the union of government and big business. In this system, the people are pawns. Government, Big Agriculture and their partners in crime Monsanto, Dow and Bayer are engaged in a fascist system in which an unwitting populace is kept fat and stupid and without choices, and even those who understand and recognize the system for what it is are allowed fewer opportunities to opt out.

These are who the War on Terror should truly be against. And thanks to global activism and the growth of the Internet and advent of social media, the war on the real terrorists is gaining headway against their war on our health.

We can battle agricultural terrorism on our own by minding what we are buying and eating.  When you grocery shop, refuse to buy GMO products. Many food producers are now labeling their non-GMO foods as such. You can also use the “Non-GMO Shopping Guide,” available for download here.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Michael J.

    Thanks Bob,
    Monsanto is but another tenacle of the gargantuan arachnid known as the NWO. Becoming aware of the clandestine indoctrination foisted upon the unsuspecting world wide masses gives us an idea of how David felt as he gazed up at Goliath. We must also keep in mind however, that David was triumphant over Goliath.

    • Flashy

      Part of some NWO ? Are you suggesting Michael, that for years fighting the Big Ag companies from destroying the family farm, destroying natural food strains, polluting waters and land, calling for an end to big Ag subsidies … that somehow Progressives and Moderates are in support of Big Ag?

      You’re coming very late to the game on this one. Y’all stepped aside and allowed your Controllers to divert your attention, fill you full of misinformation, and allow the takeover to occur. Now you cry about it?

      • Michael J.

        #1 – follow the money and see that it leads to Rockefeller’s and Rothschild’s.

        #2 – Perhaps you’d like to show us all when and where I have ever shed a kind word with respect to Monsanto and or Big AG.

        #3 – How many times must we tell you, YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY HERE !!!!!

      • FreedomFighter

        No food crop will be available that is not GMO — NWO

        1, Food is a weapon – starving people will pretty much do anything to eat

        2. Food as a weapon – poisoning GMO causes sterility, birth defects, stunted growth and other as yet to be determined side effects — like super resistent insects.

        The documented plan is basically to stunt an sterilize populations then control birth rates thru technological birthing centers. Inside the birthing centers technocrats will control genetic make up:

        Alpha — smart ones leaders and controllers – tall good looking smart
        Beta — mid level workers– shorter not so good looking not so smart
        Theta — idiot workers, short stunted and ugly

        Its a Brave New World they want only it will be the nightmare version.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Flashy

        Michael…get a grip on reality.

        i was calling you to task because, as you stated in your followup, you haven’t said a word. I know Eddie, Karolyn, myself, and other Moderates on this site…few as we may be…have mentioned Big Ag, the subsidies, and the systematic destruction of the family farm and the genetic mutations they foist upon us. usually these are in response to the robotic calls for more deregulation and how government is bad and not a good thing. But with very few exceptions, every policy you rail against, every call for wiping out departments in blithely ignore the benefits of having agencies which operate for the People.

        I know just last week when DaveH tried to bring up the number of trees and how good that is that we have more trees now than ever (showing his ignorance by not realizing it’s not just the trees making up a viable ecosystem, but the underbrush and streams…non -existent under today’s Big Timber farms)

        I would bet large sums of money that, for you and the majority posting here, the last article you read about a protest against Big Ag crop issues…you said to yourself ‘damn environmentalist radicals”.

        You call for dereg, you rant against any movement to bring back the human factor to government which existed prior to the war against the Middle Class begun under Reagan and continued to 2008. You stood aside when the most massive income redistribution in history was conducted under Bush II. you stood aside as Bush/Cheney politicized and stacked every consumer and emergency aid response department. You call for elimination of the EPA…you take the corporate line on fracking, on Keystone, on every item of the day.

        And we’re supposed to now believe you when you cry alligator tears about Monsanto?

        You have never fought for removal of corporate influence in the regulatory departments. fact cry, yell and scream for more corporate oligarchies ! You scream about government becoming more into our lives…yet scream and support any legislation or movement towards dictating personal activities based upon wacked religious mores !

        Talk about credibility … look at yours.

        You are getting what you asked for. A corporate-run oligarchy in conjunction with an American Taliban.

      • Opal the Gem

        “I know Eddie, Karolyn, myself, and other Moderates on this site…”

        You a moderate? Ha. flushy you are about as moderate as a hungry grizzly that has you pinned and is fixin to make a meal of you.

      • Flashy

        Opal…to you Attila the Hun would be deemed a Liberal.

      • independant thinker

        “I know just last week when DaveH tried to bring up the number of trees and how good that is that we have more trees now than ever (showing his ignorance by not realizing it’s not just the trees making up a viable ecosystem, but the underbrush and streams…non -existent under today’s Big Timber farms)”

        Thats odd. I have hunted on numerous “Big Timber Farms” and not a one was the sterile manicured lawn enviorment you make them out to be. Everyone of them I have had to push thru brush, fight briars, etc.. As to the streams, if there was supposed to be a stream there it was there and flowing.

      • Thor

        Flashy, Karolyn, Doc Sarvis, Eddie47, et al:

        I wanted to personally thank you folks for giving me such an insight into the liberal mind in the last few months. In that time I have come to understand—as well as I might—the liberal propensity to haunt conservative blogs for the sheer glee of baiting genuine thinking persons with idle prattle; with warm fuzzy sentimentality that camouflages the hard and heartless iron spike of real, insidious vitriol; and—last but not least—the absolute coordinated dexterity with which you all manage to avoid a straightforward, cogent and sensible argument.

        When wont to make a point too difficult to put into words, you cut and paste liberal websites; and when you cannot deal with the facts presented in an orderly argument, you decry “Where is the proof?”

        Rather than learn something from an opposing view point, you choose rather to chide and accuse—your favorite tactic being to take something that is sacred to conservatives like religious moral standards, tradition and historic fact and either distort and twist it or simply accuse them of violating their own standards. And you employ this technique without one example or scintilla of proof. Your only response to a well ordered argument is vacuous opinion.

        And when the argument is too pointed and too tough for you to disprove, you do one of two things—you resort to name-calling or you simply ignore and pass on to a point in the stream where your technique seems more appropriate.

        But, in spite of your antics, I have learned a few things with patience, passivity and observation:

        Liberals do not really agree with each other on anything. They simply get together at regular intervals to make sure conservatives don’t get to run anything and to prevent them from having a lone voice on any issue.

        The only exception to the previous general statement is that Liberals agree to disagree with conservatives on everything; and the only proof they offer is the fact they all agree that conservatives are wrong about everything.

        Liberals do not feel they are exercising their 1st Amendment rights unless they are doing it in a conservative forum.

        Liberals have no intention of offering a reasonable argument; they merely intend to argue.

        Liberals have no solutions to any of the problems they can identify. They feel their only responsibility is to point out problems for conservatives to solve.

        Liberals do not believe change solves anything; they believe in change for the sake of change—whether or not it solves the problem.

        The liberal motto (or mantra) is “any other reality has got to be better than this one—if for no other reason than that it is an alternative to the conservative world view.”

        Liberals have no morality of their own. They simply wait until conservatives voice their moral belief and disagree with it.

        Liberals claim to be ‘moderates’ to give themselves the faux-credibility of ‘I see both sides, therefore I’m smarter than both conservatives and radical progressives.’ In truth, liberals who claim to be moderates are simply confused and undecided, hoping for long life on topography that doesn’t exist—middle ground.

        Analysis of but a single quote from your last post above illustrates all the above, Flashy:

        “You have never fought for removal of corporate influence in the regulatory departments. fact cry, yell and scream for more corporate oligarchies ! You scream about government becoming more into our lives…yet scream and support any legislation or movement towards dictating personal activities based upon wacked religious mores !”

        Central to the conservative world view is the emphasis on small government, less regulation and no intrusion into personal space—the exact opposite of what you say. This is a tactic known to Saul Alinsky progressives as ‘displacement’—accuse the opposition first of what you are actually doing that ‘the People’ won’t like and the accusation will stick. Second tactical principle—promotional secularism—always attack conservatives on their religious morality on the fundamental principle that it is intrusive, Victorian, oppressive; and do so in the crudest language of the times—thus, “wacked religious mores!”

        In short, you have no argument. That loud, clanging sound you hear is an empty cranial cavity banging against conservative oak. After all, what’s that they say about ducks…? If you use progressive liberal talking points and tactics, then you must be a … (well, at least you have finally decided).

      • Jay

        Stellar observation, Thor!!!

      • JUKEBOX

        Sounds like to me that we are being led to an agricultural Armageddon, which is foretold in Revelations. Those giant locusts will probably eat all of Monsanto’s GE crops, which will be a good thing.

      • FreedomFighter

        Exposing Industry and Gov. Lies about GM Foods with Jeffrey M. Smith 1/4

        Smith is the author of Seeds of Deception: Exposing Industry and Government Lies About the Safety of the Genetically Engineered Foods You’re Eating and Genetic Roulette: The Documented Health Risks of Genetically Engineered Foods.

        Watch all 4 parts, then take action.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Flashy

        “Central to the conservative world view is the emphasis on small government, less regulation and no intrusion into personal space—the exact opposite of what you say. ” <— thor

        first of all..what you write before this one quote is about as pure hogfat and lard as anyone would dare to pen. Did you copy the talking points from a far right website or blog and paste it for the misinformation and diatribe it is?

        As to your statement above. Laughable. take the topic today. When the agenda is to weaken consumer and civil protections against corporate overreach, you support it. Disregarding the effects overall…if it fits that one singular narrow window, y'all bend before the Koch bros etc and don't even request vaseline. However, when it affects you…by the gawds above, where is the protections we should receive !?! You know…those very protections that in the past we supported weakening !

        As for intrusion into personal space…ummm, just one example out of the many. How about dictating intrusive medical procedures upon women, stripping away health benefits if such are 'morally objectionable to the employer" and demanding the tenets of a religious sect override Constitutionally protected rights?

      • Christin

        Superbly said, Thor… SUPERBLY said right on the mark.

      • JeffH

        Flashy says “I know (Eddie, Karolyn) myself, and other Moderates on this site”…moderates? ROFLMAO!

        Karolyn might be the closest to a liberal moderate…as for eddie, he’s just a liberal…but yourself…you’re an Alinskyite leftist to the core.

        As Michael said and Mr. Livingston has pointed out, not to mention so many other creditable posters here…you have NO CREDIBILITY here.

      • JeffH

        Thor, :) HEAR HEAR!

      • revnowwhilewecan

        Like I’ve said, I’m new to politics but I don’t think the NWO reference was to any certain political party. If it was, it was a vague reference to both. Is Obama considered a strait liberal or a moderate because I can’t tell the difference? It would seem to me that even being considered a democrat in general is confusing to a newbie like me. If he was to represent “change”, why are we invading new countries and passing bills on New Year’s Eve that would make even Dick Cheney blush. I’m trying objectively to see the difference but it’s blurry to a laymen such as myself.

      • MNIce

        Flashy, when you wrote, “As for intrusion into personal space…ummm, just one example out of the many. How about dictating intrusive medical procedures upon women, stripping away health benefits if such are ‘morally objectionable to the employer” and demanding the tenets of a religious sect override Constitutionally protected rights?”, you showed your bulb is getting dimmer.

        I assume you are referring to the requirement in some states that women see their baby on ultrasound before hiring its killer. Ultrasound is NON-INVASIVE. It has much less effect on physiology than loud music played with a subwoofer. If it intrudes on a woman’s conscience, why is that not a good thing? Since when does the government have the authority to interfere in a free contract between employee and employer, and require either party to pay for a service probably neither of them want because it violates their consciences? Since when does the government’s ideology override the Constitutionally protected rights of members a religious sect? I suppose when secular humanism, with abortion as one of its sacraments, become the official religion of the United States government.

        I’ll give you credit for spelling “tenet” correctly. Congratulations; many of the tenants on this site are still trying to figure it out. Now if I can just get everyone to be conscious of their conscience…

    • Tom W.

      Very well said Michael J.! What’s going on here is a prime example of, some things man should just leave alone! One of the curses put on man when Adam and Eve disobeyed God was, “And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.” – Genesis 3:17-19 (KJV)
      We want more, more, more! We’re too lazy to do it nature’s way, so we invent chemicals in our air-conditioned labs to do the work for us. Oh, what a wicked web we weave!!! Again I ask you Bob, can you find a better description of the human race today than II Tim. 3:1-5?!!

      “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”

      Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMING! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

      • Old Henry


        Thank you for that post. You hit the nail on the head.

        “The best of times” and “The worst of times”. On the one hand I am scared to my very core every minute of every day and on the other hand I am fascinated with what is occurring before our very eyes.

        We must indeed stay focused on God Almighty…. and that is hard to do in today’s world! Those of us in touch with God can feel Satan in the air, feel him roaming around us today.

        I am afraid that I may slip, but more so for those who don’t take God seriously, or ignore what is taking place.

      • Tom W.

        Hey OH, Don’t worry about a thing, just keep you eyes upon Jesus, Look full into His wonderful face, and the things of earth shall grow strangely dim, in the light of His glory and grace! Do you know Him as your PERSONAL Lord and Savior OH?! If your answer is yes, then you have nothing to fear! If you don’t, then why not ask Him into your heart RIGHT NOW?! If you ask Him sincerely, then you can call yourself BORN AGAIN!!!

        “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.” – John 3:7

        “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.” – John10:27-29

      • Old Henry

        Yes TomW, Jesus is, and has been all my life, my personal Savior. Maybe that’s why I am so keen on sensing Satan roaming like a lion. Those who do not know Jesus Satan considers as bein on cruise control and they need little attention.

    • Ralph Herman

      It may be DDT all over again but where is the proof?There should be crop isolation to protect the organic farmers crop from cross pollenation and there by protecting the heirlom seeds from the GM crossing.This is a whole new monster.

      • Flashy

        The article was correct about lawsuits if winds cross pollinate Monsanto (etc) crops. Counter suits are fought against by Big Ag taking the line their crops cannot reproduce by themselves…so they are no danger to neighboring “organic’ crops. they argue both sides…

      • Old Henry

        Ralph, in their view heirloom seeds are the enemy because they make people independent of government and “big ag”.

      • http://firefox wog1

        Agreed! But the funny thing here is that they are protecting the wrong groups and not the heirloom seeds. The one who is going to lose here is the consumer. What does Monsanto hope to gain if they lose their consumers?

      • Flashy

        They’re not losing consumers…they’re creating a forced monopoly. we need it, they can dictate the price since they control it.

    • Old Henry

      Here are a couple of interesting links for more on Monsanto.
      The second one is more of a documentary, but very interesting and informative.

      I tested them and they both still work.—full-length-.html

      • revnowwhilewecan

        I love brasschecktv.

    • Mom Henning

      What do you mean? Monsanto is just opening up new markets and consolidating their turf. This is considered good business practice!! The bottom line is: Increase Profits with whatever means is legal and what they can get away with. Corporations have no heart, and they are immortal. Environmental rape and pillage is standard fare. God help us all.

      • Tom W.

        He’s going to Mom!

    • revnowwhilewecan

      I agree Michael. It’s a hard pill to swallow, no pun intended, that the government could be involved in such diobolical doings. Especially when people choose to voice opposing opinions from a political platform with statements like, “myself and other Moderates on this site”. It’s very telling that there is an underlying agenda when comments are made with a capital letter in the middle of a sentence of the word “moderate” but yet no proper capitalization to start a sentence later on. Unfortunately, we won’t be able to move on to the actual issues at hand until we can put the partisan issues aside and address them for what they are.

      • Flashy

        Rev….typo’s are typos. What is telling is you ascribe to typographical errors (common for me) an ‘agenda’. Which leads straight to the common traits of the followers of the TP and the fringe right. Fear, Hate, Ignorance.

        When reason and reality run against the “purity’ of the faith, the Rightists run straight away from the reality and reason, and spout an ideological argument which, if anyone would think through, is anti-American, anti-patriotic, and would cause nothing less than the complete disintegration of this Nation.

        Partisanship has nothing to do with it. It is the failure of the far Right, the “corporatists’ and the “American taliban”, to recognize reason and rational thought which has caused the social schism we face today in our Nation.

      • Thor

        rev, you will have to forgive Flashy. Such radical thinkers have no time for actual facts–which of course leads to perverted deductions like blaming ‘the radical far right’ for happenstances they cannot possibly be responsible for. I give you the facts according to the Congressional Record, which–if you cared to examine them, Flashy–demonstrate that liberal Democrats have dominated charge of both houses of Congress 87 out of the last one hundred years. The remainder–less than 13 years–was either split or Republican run; and those 13 years have all occurred since Reagan. The absolute horror of conservative Republicans running both the Presidency and Congress led to a split giving Congress back to Democrats during both Reagan and Bush II. It is impossible to blame any state of affairs that exists on ‘the far right’ which has controlled nothing for the last century for any appreciable time.

        Why then do liberals like Flashy use such tactics? It is a diversion from the reality that the liberal progressives who are the real friends of corporate terrorism, the real purveyors of elitism, class warfare and the American Taliban are slowly transforming American politics into an untenable landscape. My suspicion is that they do so without regard for the unintended consequences–that of losing their opposition. In the last century liberals have so dominated politics that they have slowly transformed their typical whipping boy–the conservative right–into such a limp noodle that they have produced a quagmire of morality even they can no longer fathom. Bereft of tangible opposition, they no longer know what to think or what to oppose. After all, you can no longer blame those who have come to think the same way you do.

        Case in point: if Mitt Romney is all conservatives have to offer because ‘he’s a moderate and is the only one who can beat Obama’ precisely because he (Romney) is a moderate–then the liberal mindset is truly without opposition and the conservative voice is dead.

        That being so, how then are progressives to know what they are opposed to?

      • JeffH

        Thor, flashy’s tactics are a mirror image of Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals”.

      • Tom W.

        Hammer him Thor!!! Hey JeffH, something for you! –, If you haven’t already seen it, your welcome! There was a line of toys by Mattel that were very similar when I was a kid, inspired by “The Man From U.N.C.L.E.”

  • Karolyn

    Great website to help battle this giant corporation:

  • Karolyn
    • GraemeB

      Seems you beat me to the punch Karolyn with the suicides. And these corporate monsters can sleep at night!

      • Old Henry

        Yes GraemeB, but evenutally they will be “sleeping” in Hell. Maybe too little too late?

      • revnowwhilewecan

        Bags of money make great pillows for some with no conscious.

      • Tom W.

        But a honest man’s pillow is his piece of mind!

  • GraemeB

    The one section that stood out to me was sec. 8 with “GE crops create non-renewable seeds that do not germinate from year to year” I firmly believe that a day is coming vey soon when there will be a mass failure of these GM crops where as far as the eye can see, there will be corn, wheat etc with no heads of wheat or corn. One only has to see the devastation that Monsanto is causing to the farmer in India where the farmer ends up committing suicide because they become indentured to Monsanto and cannot pay their bills or have sustainable crops.
    Then you have the spectacle of the overspray of “agent orange” commonly called roundup, killing adjoining crops and cross polinating indigenous crops. This has occurred whee the place where corn originated in S. America has ben cross contaminatd by Monsanto GM’s with the result that we do not have original seed available in the event of a coming worldwide crop failure. Thank you corporate greedy Monsanto. Your profits won’t mean a hill of beans when this happens. No pun intended, because they have cross polinated beans too.

    • Michael J.

      The elites, and that’s who control this circus, have a contengency plan for global crop failure. Or that’s the justification anyhow for the Svalbard Seed Vault located inside the Artic Circle and stocked with heirloom seeds. This Noah’s Ark of plant species is financed by Bill Gates and one of the Rockefeller’s.

  • T. Jefferson

    This needs to be stopped. There is no way to determine what effect this will have on human genetics. They and the federal departments that support them are slowly poisoning us. How many children with three eyes or two heads need to be born before we can stop this franken-engineering.

    • Tom W.

      It’s like one of those old Sci-Fi movies from back in the 60′s when nuclear power was the usual culprit!!!

  • Henry Ledbetter

    THANKS BOB last year was the worst year I have ever had for bees and pollination for my garden. The honey bees were almost non-existant but had a proponderance of bumble bees but all of a sudden they were gone. I am pretty sure there may have been some of their experimentation going on in my area. “The battle is not ours but The Lord’s” but we must be willing to enter the battle.

    • Tom W.

      Well said Henry, and they continue to act like they don’t know what’s killing the honey bees, a VITAL part of oue eco-system!!!

      • Christin

        So that’s where all the honey bees have gone… killed by Monsanto GMO herbicides.

        That’s what happens when Man TRIES to play God… they make a mess of His Creation.

      • http://firefox wog1

        Honey bees we are now dependent on and they were not even found here until they were brought here from Europe after originally coming from Africa. The Mason bee was what was here and is much more effective than the African honey bee.

      • independant thinker

        Christin, Tom W, and others. It is more involved than Monsanto chemicals causing the die off. There is a fungus and a parasite that kill off colonies of bees as well. However, the chemicals and GE plants certainly contribute by weakening the bees and making them more susseptable to the fungus and parasite.

    • Sirian

      Henry L,
      Jump over to this site and it may give you a source of the bee problem.
      This problem has been growing for several years and they think they know what is causing the “die off” of honey bees.

  • R. Shelton

    Bob !!!

    Think you had better stick to the subjects you are familiar with. You are getting out of line when you let other people write your material. I would hate to think of the thousands of people in foreign countries that would have died from starvation if production had not been increased from the use of chemicals. Guess we would have to let any immigrant in to hoe cotton, chop corn, etc. like they did 100 years ago. Not sure how they controled weeds in wheat. Think you had better stick to politics.

    • Karolyn

      I think you need to get your head out of the sand! I bet you go right along with BigPharma’s drugging of America too!

      • Tom W.

        SIC him Karolyn!!!

      • JeffH

        :) Hear Hear!

      • OB1

        Thank you Karolyn. Well said…

    • ArkansasRebel

      I’m curious what is the source of your knowledge & consequently your statements? Do you actually have real farming experience? Or are the statements you make based only on what you have read or been told? Have you not heard what has happened in some other countries, like India?

      Admittedly I don’t have personal farming knowledge but what I have read about the practices of Monsanto & the chemicals we use scares me. Not so much for myself, since I am over 70, but for my children & grandchildren. I have read of Monsanto’s practices in India where, I understand, they sold farmers their “terminator” seeds, on credit to be paid
      when crops matured, & all over India crops failed and not because of weather but because of the failure of the seeds themselves. Monsanto then attempted to collect by foreclosing on Indian farmers.

      I also understand, maybe incorrectly (maybe you can correct me), that when our farmers who become indebted to Monsanto are ultimately being bought out by Monsanto when the farmers crops fail, & that Monsanto is now one of, if not the largest corporate farmers in the U.S. Does this not scare you?

      • Tom W.

        Just like the ruthless (expletive deleted) they are!!!

    • eddie47d

      Some chemicals(fertilizers) have done wonders in replenishing the soil and making farming more viable in the past. This modifying seeds to corner the market and wiping out native seed supplies is indeed freakish and dangerous and will not help in feeding us or 3rd world nations.

      • Tom W.

        IT’S ALIVE!!!

      • Karolyn

        eddie – Chemical fertilizers do NOTHING to enrich the soil. It’s nothing but a temporary fix.

      • John

        The use of chemicals and mass farming of mono cultures have essential left the soil sterile. Nothing grows unless one uses huge amount of chemicals to feed the plants.
        I.m.h.o. this was the ploy from the start. The big farming outfits are dependent on the chemical corporation to produce, the people are also dependent on them and we all depend on oil that is used to manufacture those chemicals. If we ever get a real oil crisis… and I believe we are not that far from it… this system is not sustainable and billions will starve. People need to learn how to grow their own food… it can be done, Cities and towns even in suburbia have small back yards . If people would start to turn those into gardens…now… and learn how to do it efficiently the impact will be minimized.
        Because one thing is sure, once fertilizer becomes too expensive or sparse millions of acres in the American bread basket will lay empty. I have see estimates by experts that it will take in excess of 10 years for the soils to rejuvenate… but if we don’t develop alternate plans, there will be hardly any one around to farm them.

      • Sirian

        If you’re “chemical fertilizers have done wonders” happens to be referring to Ammonium Nitrate – very popular, used quite commonly – you need to remember that it does not do anything for the soil on a long term basis and is most widely used as a very cheap, common, easily handled EXPLOSIVE.

      • eddie47d

        That’s what I said Sirian. “in the past”. Over usage of any chemical can cause harm whether in the soil or in the human body. I only use weed and feed maybe every 3rd year to keep out the neighbors growth. I prefer mulching which is safer for kids and animals.

      • Tom W.

        Sirian was that not what was used to blow up the Murrah Fed. Bldg?!

    • Tom W.

      No, you need to get off your LAZY a$$ and hoe your own damn weeds!

      • Livefree1200cc

        Straight white vinegar sprayed on plants will kill them just like roundup without the bad side affects

      • Tom W.

        Thank you Livefree!

    • Duane

      Studies have been done and the information is verifiable that organic farming or sustained agriculture practices have been shown to produce far more yields and with less water.

      • Tom W.

        But you can’t reach a 5,000,000 world population count with organic farming Duane! You eater you!!!

    • http://Yahoo Maynard

      Surprisingly enough, people in foreign countries have survived for millenia and survive better without our meddling, which artificially protects life forms only to have populations crash in hard times.

      This meddling results in brief periods of over-production and temporary increases in fecundity. Then, invitably, comes drought and flood and crop failure which lead to drastic reductions in the food supply. This in turn causes starvation and pestilence.

      Just as farmers understand they cannot allow every weed to multiply, or every seedling in their garden to grow without thinning them out, or every animal to reproduce without maintaining numbers consistent with the available clean water, pasture and grain, we must remember the sad reality – not all naturally occuring gestations in humans are sustainable.
      If we ignore this law of nature, nature will unleash forces to drastically restore the balance.
      In addition to famine and pestilence, humanity itself will engage in the scourge of warfare.

      Would we rather avoid these afflictions by using many of the widely available and inexpensive means we have developed through intellect, scientific inquiry, and manufacturing ingenuity, thus avoiding sharp increases which cannot be sustained later?

      When conditions are bad, I believe Socrates was right, “The best fate is to have never been born. The next best is to die young.”

  • Patriotic nut

    In an attempt to avoid all the gm and ge junk out there I am planting my own garden and raising my own chickens. Until I can raise my own cattle we will be very limited on our beef intake, can no longer afford it anyway. Even with all of that it is hard to find the right seeds and feeds locally to keep the junk out and with the possibility of cross pollination with the gm crops all I can do is hope and pray, and continue to try.

    • John

      There are ways to find those seeds in quantity. I started with going to the store and markets and buying organic fruit and vegetables and use the seeds from them to start my own. the first year, out of hundreds of seeds I got about 1-2% to grow. Probably because of the processes used to bring them to market. The second year, the seeds from those 1-2% all came up and I am now self sustaining in seeds for most items. Moreover, there are still organic places where you can buy heirloom seeds. Every year, let a few of your produce go to seed… don’t harvest them at the time where they would be good to eat but let them go to seed. Harvest the seed, dry em in a warm (not hot) dry place and wrap them in small envelops of brown paper for next years use. Some of them I put into pill bottles wrapped in paper towel with a small amount of moisture absorber to store them for longer they are good for 3-5 years after that some will fail to come up but never have i seen not at least 4-5% germination even after 10 years. I have established a good rotation and always keep some around even for longer just in case I have to go back to a set of seeds because of some infection or other problem. My Garden is small, only about 1 acre but it sustains my wife and I and seldom do we buy anything to supplement.

      • Tom W.

        Good post, thank you John, you’d better start learning to grow your own food! I believe that your LIFE depends on it!!!

    • independant thinker

      For spources of heirloom and organic seeds go to Mother Earth News. They list sources of those of course unless you happen to live next to one of the sources you will have to mail order them. Also Lehmans lists a few organicly grown heirloom seeds.

      • Tom W.

        Monsanto and others who are delving into this GE BS are messin’ with God and I believe that there’s going to be HELL to pay!

    • Jim

      There are several very good seed companies were you can get organically certified seeds , and heirloom seeds , plus some of them will send out e mails occasionally that gives advise on the way to plant certain crops and build your soil naturally.

      • Tom W.

        Stock up NOW!!!

    • Duane

      It appears that planting your own gardens is the best way to control what is eaten on your plate. This is the future of agriculture as far as I am concerned. Also, you might want to look into how to raise your own bees. It appears that the bee population is making a come back in France after they banned all of the insidious pesticides and herbicides that Monsanto has created.

      • Tom W.

        And what does that tell us Duane?!!

    • OB1

      Try these seeds: (perhaps buy 3 sets????):

  • Alex Frazier

    I have to agree with GraemeB. The part that concerns me the most is the inability to use seed corn. If we are producing and using an ever increasing amount of corn and other vegetables that cannot reproduce themselves, Murphy plays a definitive role. If it can happen, it will. The day will come when there will be a massive failure, just like the days of the dustbowl. The primary crops will fail, and we won’t have the means to reproduce them.

    I think it’s just as bad as putting corn in our gas tanks. Only an idiot would devise a scheme to burn our food supply in our automobiles.

    • John

      It is my personal believe that one reason that the UN and individual countries have established world seed banks where they store millions of different seeds is because of this possibility. We will always have a way to go back but it will take several years for it to happen and in the mean time billions will starve and die.
      There is a movement to get people to grow gardens and to rebuild community farms and organic farms. Unfortunately this will be only a drop in the ocean. But it also will ensure that some people and seeds survive. Not far from us is a outfit that has 350 Acres of solar heated all natural green houses. its a community outfit where people by shares at the beginning of the year and get delivered fresh all organic fruit and vegetables every week. Its not much, but it is a start. If one looks at what happened in India and what happens right now in China and parts of Africa, one can clearly see that the so called green revolution is a utter failure. It destroys the small farmer and the variety they used to grow with mass farming of products that have a huge impact on the environment, need large amounts of fertilizers and pesticides and in the end contain a lot less nutrition then the original. The only people that profit from the green revolution are the corporations like Monsanto and others. The people get food products that lack essential minerals and nutrition and thus according to some Dr I have seen on TV peoples bodies are always grave more food than it really needs in order to make up for the mineral and nutritional deficit. This in the end is part of the obesity problem we see creeping up world wide. People eat lots of empty calories and not enough nutrition and minerals even from the simple food groups.

      • OB1

        What you say is tru. We have replaced trace minerals with:
        Concern Trace, Trace Mineral Drops (the most powerful, all-natural, ph balancing trace minerals available)…soluable, ionic, vegan, gluten free by: Liquimins ™. A Dr. Wallach (perhaps spelled incorrectly) spoke about this for years. People are obese because they are eating more food that lacks essential nutrition (especially minerals!). We just take 30 drops a day and we are so much better in two months it’s almost scarey. Yes, I will share how you can grow your own heirloom vegetables in abundance even if you do not have a yard. (It can be done…not rocket science). Glad to see Bob L address this.

      • Tom W.

        Here’s their plan John!

    • Tom W.

      Have you ever heard of O’Toole’s observation on Murphy’s Law Alex?… He said that Murphy was an optimist!

  • eddie47d

    Monsanto is a growing monster which has it’s tentacles into everything we buy at the market. Can Europe hold out much longer? Let’s hope so and Norway does have the International Seed Bank which stock piles native seeds but will it be enough? All these chemicals that have been on the market for decades are making each succeeding generation sicker and tinkering with peoples immune system. I keep thinking that Monsanto/Dow will concoct a new cure all to save us from all the damages they have already done.

    • JeffH

      Monsanto is just another of the ever increasing crony-capiatlist partners of Big Government.

      Study up on the UN’s Agenda 21…

      • OB1

        Thanks Jeff for mentioning Agenda 21. When I found out my county was one of the first and leading counties in the US for this, I wept. When I read the list of all the cities and counties who are participating in this, I wept. Then I educated myself. Then I got angry. Then I made a resolution to go onto progressive and MSM sites and post facts (which, of course they can’t stand…) regularly. The majority of the US public is being led (like sheep to the slaughter) down the rosey road of dis-information. Please check to see if your town, city or county is signed up for Agenda 21 and do something about it NOW! Let’s start with your neighbor, ask them if they have ever heard of Agenda 21. Build upon that. They can and must be stopped.

      • Tom W.

        Killer post JeffH!!! SIC ‘EM OB1!

    • Duane

      For once eddie47d I whole heartedly agree with you. I am on the opposite end of the political spectrum (conservative libertarian) but I completely agree with your statements here.

      • Tom W.

        I agree Duane, but did ya have to tell him so?!!

  • Clint

    I agree that the use of chemicals can be hazardous if not used properly. However I am a agriculture producer “farmer” and I can tell you without the advances that we use in producing crops to feed the world there would be great starvation and food shortages now. The yield increases that we seen have made it possible to feed more with less ground. We are stewards of the earth and we feed the world. Advances that are spoken of here keep millions from starving every year.

    • Flashy


      The problem is the heavy handed tactics used by Big Ag. For instance…I have friends in Idaho who grow potatoes. They can’t use any other type of potato on the farm, even in their garden. Here’s the eye opener…

      Remember when as a kid you could toss a few spuds in the corner of a dark room, then cut out the eyes for seed for the garden? No longer. Big Ag has engineered reproduction out of the spud. Has nothing to do with production…but everything to do with monopolizing the market and forcing the farmer and gardener to buy need seed every year.

      Apples. Know one of the most expensive apple trees to buy? Purebreds. Those from seed from the ancient apple trees before cross hybrids and genetics came into being. The ones in the store look nice…but are bland. When i pick an apple from the old 9very old0 apple orchard from the folks farm…they don’t look perfect, but one bite and the explosion of taste in your mouth will show you what they have done.

      • independant thinker

        “Remember when as a kid you could toss a few spuds in the corner of a dark room, then cut out the eyes for seed for the garden? No longer. Big Ag has engineered reproduction out of the spud.”

        I know from personal experience that is WRONG. I have a short row of potatoes in my garden that came from commercial ones that sprouted in the tater box. They are growing just fine. Every year I usualy have a couple of potatoes we didn’t get eaten in time and they sprout so I plant them and they grow. Commercial potatoes are treated with a retardent to slow the sprouting process but they will sprout eventualy.

      • Opal the Gem

        Ah Ha. Independent Thinker caught Flushy in another lie.

      • FreedomFighter

        Same here Flash, had a bumper crop of taters last year.

        BTW taters were my biggest yield crop due to harsh wealther conditions, suggest maybe planting a big patch o taters this year due to weather wierdness. My above ground crops didnt fair nearly as well as below ground ones.

        Just a FYI

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • John

        Opal, not really, not all types of potatoes are engineered that way some are just saturated with a chemical that prohibits spouts to form.. it is not 100% effective. But the worse is really that some of the new potatoes that come on the markets will eventually sprout, but will bear NO fruit. So, even if you get them to sprout, and can stick them into the ground , they will have nice leaves and flowers, but at the end of the year you will find no potatoes grown in the ground. It was a very rude awakening for my neighbor last year…

      • Opal the Gem

        John you obviously did not read Independent’s post. He clearly stated he has had good luck planting commercial potatoes that had sprouted in his potato box. He also mentioned the growth retardent.

      • Thor

        You are right on here, Flashy, but how can you think that the ‘far right’ is responsible for this?

      • Libertytrain

        Opal and John, I had the same prob John’s friend had. Nothing but the tiniest little potato now and then, whereas in the years long past, I had multiple big old potatoes.

      • Tom W.

        Flushy I’m with you on this one! Did I really say that?! Did you know that there are 15,000, that’s right 15,000 species of apple trees that were indigenous to the US that have disappeared in the last 100 yrs.?!! I wonder if it has anything to do with the bees?! I also LOVE a big fat juicy apple!

      • Tom W.

        FYI, Flushy blames everything on the “far right” Thor! That’s just how he rolls!!!

      • independent thinker

        I have not looked this up but I read years ago and several times since that NO apple will reproduce true from seed no matter if it is an old varoity or a new one.

    • 2centsworth

      Hi Clint; It would be important if entrepreneurial farmers could come up with some new healthy ways of producing “healthy food” for people. I think people are getting “sick” and tired of eating polluted food. Farmers are brainwashed by the power elite when they go to school and learn “their” agricultural methods. Anyways….if you really want to know what you are doing to people, you can find out such things as when you have a GMO seed with Bt in it, the bacteria is 1000 times more than if it was just sprinkled on the cornsilk, and in addition to that, the rain and water can’t wash it off, and when it is inside of the body of a cow, or human, etc. the bacteria keeps producing in the gut. (I guess that’s why the use of antibiotics in cows?) For more in depth information on this subject you can go to “Genetically Engineered Food Alters Our Digestive System”

      • independant thinker

        “(I guess that’s why the use of antibiotics in cows?) ”

        Don’t think so. The use of antibiotics in cattle, chickens, etc. far predates Bt enginered corn and other crops. As I understand it the use of antibiotics (in the manner it is done in the cattle industry) helps the cattle gain weight faster. I think it is done because the cattle will get sick on a high grain diet like they are fed in the feed lots. The cattle’s digestive system is designed to use lots of roughage with only incidental amounts of grain (seed heads).

      • survivalist55

        I raise beef cattle…. on grass!!!! Antibiotics are used in feedlots and huge cattle farmlots with little room and no grazing. Cattle then can get sick as this is not their natural habitat and due to being kept in cramped quarters antibiotics are used to ward off disease. Grass fed cattle are not given antibiotics and are not kept in feedlots.

      • Tom W.

        The way it’s supposed to be survivalist!

    • Christin


      There are TWO SIDES to a coin… we are being fed, but with WHAT?

      I learned that GMO or ‘genetically modified organisms’ are tied to Population Reduction.
      So much for feeding the masses… only to kill their ability to hold a pregnancy… and have children.

      GMO are inherently ‘unstable’ as they are an unnatural product of introducing a foreign bacteria such as ‘Bacillus Thuringiensis’ (B=) or other material into the DNA of a given seed to change its traits.

      And with GMO seeds comes GMO herbicides with highly toxic ‘glyphosate’ chemicals. Tests show that tiny amounts of ‘glyphosate compounds’ would do damage to a human umbilical, embryonic and placental cells in a pregnant woman drinking the ground water near a GMO field.

      Tons of GMO seed and GMO herbicides are made here and eaten everywhere, esp. sent to third world countries not to feed them, but to end their society’s chances of reproducing… eugenics.


      • Christin

        (B=) should be (B+)

      • Tom W.

        That’s their plan Christin!!! –

      • Christin

        It is a bad plan, Tom, isn’t it.

        “For I know the PLANS I have for you,” declares the Lord, “PLANS to prosper you and NOT to harm you, PLANS to give you hope and a future.”
        Jeremiah 29 :11

        God’s way is GOOD and definitely isn’t there way …and they are wrong.

    • tom


      • FreedomFighter

        The Health Ranger, Mike Adams, explains how studies in cell research have demonstrated the mechanism by which micro RNA from genetically engineered foods may alter organ function in humans.

        How GMO foods alter organ function and pose a very real health threat to humans

        Monsanto employees wont even eat the stuff, they know it kills you.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Christin


        You are a wealth of information on this subject today, thank you.

        Wrote down your sites and will look at them.

        Was buying seeds from a Feed Store nearby and asked the owner if his corn seed was GMO. He said, what? I said, You don’t know what ‘Genetically Modified Organisms’ are or GMO seeds? He said no. He is a really bright man… surely he must know. I wanted to ask him if he heard of ‘Monsanto’ and tell him to BING those two words, but I didn’t.

        Feel like looking at these sites you gave today and with the few I have and writing them down and leaving them in an envelope for him to research… so he’ll know.

        I asked him about natural and synthetic fertilizers for my garden beds I am planting and he knew the difference. He said most farmers around don’t care if it is natural or man-made just as long as it gets them big plants/vegetables quick. I commented that many people are sick and I cared what I used and then thanked him for allowing me to pick his brain.
        I bought bone (phosphate) and blood (nitrogen) meal and he said I could use ash from my wood burn pit for pot ash (he didn’t have any natural).

      • Tom W.

        Bull to what tom? FF is ALWAYS a wealth of info Christin! His sense of humor is spot on also!!! HEY KOOL-AID!

  • Karolyn

    Did you use the link above about Indian farmers committing suicide?

  • Insurgent

    I love to hear the Farm Bureau ads talk about how the farmers are working hard to help the people of America. What I see are farmers working hard to buy up more land and make more money for themselves and their famililies. It is not about helping America; it is about helping themselves. Farming is big, big business and I do not see much poverty on the farms in Kansas. If they are “poor” farmers, it is mainly because they are “poor” managers!!

    • JeffH

      Insurgent, come to central California…the farmers are stuggling big time, no thanks to thr co-operation that exists between he envori-extremists and the government…both Federal and State.

      • OB1

        Jeff, google search water issues in the central valley and what Barbara Boxer has done. Most people were aware. I do not know how she was re-elected. I believe there must have been voter fraud. Kind of reminds me of the cartoon “Who Killed Roger Rabbit”. Worth renting and watching.

      • Tom W.

        Good posting guys! Barbra was certainly running scared that last election OB1, hell I think she even took a bath for a public speaking engagement, I think!!!

      • JeffH

        OB1, I live in Fresno, CA…right in the heart of the central valley. To see the result of the 2010 election was very diheatening and frustrating…I, for the most part, have lost total respect for the California voting publicand feel there is no recovery in sight as long as the unions and environmentalists are calling the shots and making the rules in California.

        Diane Feinstein is also a major enemy of water for the central valley farmers. I thank GOD I do have a Congressman Devin Nunes representing me though. He very pro-active with the water and jobs problems in the valley.

        Here is a link to his blog…very sharp guy and addresses the issues as they are, not how it’s percieved.

        Obama High Priority: Killing San Joaquin Valley Jobs

  • Karolyn
    • JeffH

      Karolyn, it’s called crony-capitalism. Couldn’t exist without the blessings of the government.

    • Sirian

      Outstanding Karolyn, you’ve started posting reference links. That has been one of your main faults – lots to say, no links to back it. Again, Outstanding that you’ve begun doing so. May not agree, but still, you’re using something. . . :)

      • Karolyn

        Sirian – I always post links when it comes to health matters. When it’s something that I am really passionate about, I will post links.

      • JeffH

        Sirian, Karolyn has been posting links for quite some time now.

    • Tom W.

      That’s because they’re all liberals Karlolyn!

  • Juan M. Oliveros

    Is horrific the issue . What is going to happens to the humanity if such an activity is not stoped . If you need my sign for any proposition to the gobernment I am ready.

    Juan M. Oliveros

    • Karolyn

      Juan – Go to tis site. Ir there are ways to fight them, you’ll find them there.

    • Tom W.

      I fear that it’s going to take more than the signing of a petition to stop them Juan!

  • s c

    Bob, thanks for reminding people that FASCISM is ‘the union of government and big business.’ Theoretically, we have an army of agencies and groups dedicated to keeping people and birds and bees and cattle and our food supply “safe.”
    Would it be asking too much to know what this criminal regime is doing to keep Americans and our food supply safe? Some folks have a terrible time keeping both feet in the real world, so kindly couple that idea with the fact that we are enduring an administration that combines socialism, communism, fascism and utopian schemes.
    Add to that mix the fact that tree-huggers, the Sierra herd, PETA and the rest of the usual suspects are busy being pals with Washington. IS ANYONE or any GROUP really on our side? Are there any LAWYERS who give a damn?
    If we ever needed a reason to march on Washington and shut down state capitals, this is it, people.
    Or, have some coffee and try to go to that safe place in your mind. Change the channel. Uncle Scam to the rescue.
    Everything is beautiful – as usual.

    • OB1

      People are speaking out everywhere. The MSM is of course not covering any of it. For example, the Veterans day march on Washington to Support Ron Paul (never even got a mention):

    • Tom W.

      I’m truly surprised that it hasn’t happened already s c! I’m ready, R U?!! We need a march on DC, we need a national no-fly day (Or week or more!) to let the TSA know that we’re tired of being treated like terrorism suspects! We need a national no-drive day, week, or more to let big oil know that we’re tired of the gas prices! We need ALL Americans to stop buying products that are made overseas by dehumanized workers, as a matter of fact, to buy only made in the USA products! And I have to say I’m as guilty as anyone, I bought a pair of Black and Decker knoppers at Wal-Mart last week, nine bucks, a bargain! When I got home and looked, made in China! We need to stop!!!

  • Robert Button

    Having carried a pesticide License for 15 years, I wouldn’t be too ready to blame the pesticide companies over the issues, which are absolutely correct. The EPA has had a near Dictatorial roll over the Pesticide industries for for close to 40 years now. And it was their Dictatorial Edicts, driven by Politics, and Ideology over the last 40 years that has corrupted the Pesticide Industry. Those who played along with them succeeded, those who didn’t wished they had. This is also true with many of our Universities, those fallowed their Ideology got Grants, and those who did not, did not. before the EPA come along you never heard of “pesticide resistance”.

    • Sirian

      Robert Button,
      As long as Cass Sunstein remains in charge of the EPA, standby, the dictatorial powers of this Czar will run rampant until he is finally removed – permanently. What he has devised and pushed through so far is unbelievable. EPA regulations to an extreme – never before seen on this level. Extremely costly, extremely detrimental to all.

    • Tom W.

      Good point Robert, spot on Sirian!

  • lobo

    First, I am a 70 year old Missouri semi retired farmer. Monsanto is only supplying a capitalistic demand for worldwide food. I have no desire to return to my youth with 70 bushel corn and 20 bushel beans when I can now raise 200 bushel corn and 60 bushel beans on the same farm with much less erosion damage than the 1950s. I have no desire to hand weed in 100 degree sun. You are whining with the safeist cheapest food in the world.

    • Christin

      That’s great lobo… YOU get paid ….and WE die eating GMO… or at the very least can’t have babies anymore.

      • Tom W.

        What the hell does he care Christin?! His response reminds me of King Hezekiah in the Bible!
        “And Hezekiah hearkened unto them, and shewed them all the house of his precious things, the silver, and the gold, and the spices, and the precious ointment, and all the house of his armour, and all that was found in his treasures: there was nothing in his house, nor in all his dominion, that Hezekiah shewed them not. Then came Isaiah the prophet unto king Hezekiah, and said unto him, What said these men? and from whence came they unto thee? And Hezekiah said, They are come from a far country, even from Babylon. And he said, What have they seen in thine house? And Hezekiah answered, All the things that are in mine house have they seen: there is nothing among my treasures that I have not shewed them. And Isaiah said unto Hezekiah, Hear the word of the LORD. Behold, the days come, that all that is in thine house, and that which thy fathers have laid up in store unto this day, shall be carried into Babylon: nothing shall be left, saith the LORD. And of thy sons that shall issue from thee, which thou shalt beget, shall they take away; and they shall be eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon. Then said Hezekiah unto Isaiah, Good is the word of the LORD which thou hast spoken. And he said, Is it not good, if peace and truth be in my days?” – II Kings 20:13-19 (KJV)

      • Christin

        Tom W,

        I am so sick of people just being GREEDY and doing what they want… no matter who it hurts… even if it has severe repercussions like contaminating the seeds and food and our soil and our bodies…no moral compass.

        What happened to “Just do the Right thing.”

    • Suzette

      If you were having to hand weed you weren’t farming correctly in the first place.
      Monoculture causes weeds….
      People think organic is all about hard work – it actually can take less inputs when you do it properly!

      • Katrael

        Suzette, I like your comment. I don’t plant large plots but I do have pretty good gardens and I found it’s easier to mulch than it is to weed although some weeding always seems necessary. Like you suggest I start by working on them when they are small and easy to eliminate. I also found that some crops, like my corn, could be planted early enough to eliminate pest problems. I started the seeds indoors early and transplanted them after the danger of frost.
        I’m going to try a NO TilLL garden, that is essentially a giant pot, so to speak, about fifteen foot on a side where you plant many things close to each other and that you allow some to go to seed where it’ll reseed itself. The different plants create a kind of bio zone that tends to exclude unwanted plants and that also is supposed to confuse pests as there isn’t a giant area of mono crop to attract them. I hope it works.
        People need to get dirt on them. I understand there are certain types of bacteria that naturally occur in the dirt that are friendly to us and that even help to stimulate the production of certain hormones in us that give us feelings of pleasure or satisfaction. Maybe that’s why I like to garden?
        The bottom line to me is that if more people grew at least some of what they eat that it would reduce our dependence on companies like Monsanto. Say no to Monsanto and grow your own.

      • Tom W.

        Excellent posts ladies, thank you! Just assuming that you’re a female Katrael, if not, my bad!

    • John

      Lobo, If it is so safe, how come many countries in this world have banned the import of it? They don’t even permit import of meat and poultry that has been fed with it.
      Yes you produce a lot more, but it is nutritional inferior, the taste is bland and it hardly has any minerals in it because your soil is in essence sterile without the chemicals you use. And only people like you and Monsanto and its cronies say it is safe,

      • Tom W.

        Yeah ya old fart!

    • FreedomFighter

      Lobo, the technology exists for robots to weed, and collect insects from farms, using no weed killer or insect poisons.

      We only need make the investment in robotics, we as a society have reached the point robots can do the job, still expensive, but like all tech, price comes down dramatically with volume and use.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Tom W.

        We’ve grown soft FF!!!

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  • Karim J

    Start at the top and HANG ‘EM HIGH!
    That’s all I got to say about that!

    • Tom W.

      If things don’t change Karim, I fear that day is comin’!

  • http://Yahoo Maynard

    Lobo You have four years on me, but I still will venture an opinion different from yours. You are equating quantity with quality. You produce more, but is it as nutritious? The chances are good that it is not. Why, because many of our hybridized versions look beautiful but the way they taste is lacking. Try supermarket tomatoes for example. They make better tennis balls. Try the hybrid corn. Have you had carboard with sugar sprinkled on it?
    Then, if you were to economize to save seed for the next year, the seed may not germinate and if it did, you could wind up in court because they’ve copyrighted good old mother nature. If it happened, as in India, the seed you bought from Monsanto did not produce well, you’re still stuck with the bill and no way to pay it and no way to get more seed. You’re bankrupt and guess who’s right there to buy your land and turn you into a sharecropper?
    Big, corporate business has one goal before all others: get bigger to establish a monopoly,
    Smaller organic farms will not make you a millionaire overnight. But they’re more bio-diverse, healthier, and more sustainable. Don’t sell your time honored techniques for “easy” pesticides, herbicides, and patented hybrids. Sooner or later, you’ll be sorry.

    • Karolyn

      Never mind taste, our soil is so depleted that the fruits and vegetables don’t even have the nutrition they used to. So much for chemical fertilizers.

      • independant thinker

        Nothing wrong with chemical fertilizers. When used properly in small amounts they can help overcome temporary deficiencies in your soil. The problem comes with the massive use of them with no effort to improve the soil quality but rather just depend on the chemical fertilizer. When I first started my garden where I live now it was pure red clay. If I hadn’t used chem fertilizer the first couple of years i wouldn’t have had a crop. Over time I have built up the soil with added topsoil, compost, mulch, manure, etc. and now I need very little or no commercial fertilizer.

      • John

        I don’t use any fertilizers or chemicals in my garden, but that takes planing, crop rotation and more planing. Pests can be controlled by planting the right combinations…of course this is impractical for large commercial farms… and one can taste the difference by eating the produce. I started my garden 3 years before I even planted one item. I got horse manure, cow manure and composts by the wagon loads and plowed it in in the fall so that the frost in winter could break open the minerals and kill of the bad bacteria… now, I am self sustaining and composting all my left over plant materials for use. It can be done, but its hard work.. I am planing on doing it til the day I die.. it keeps me fit and healthy.

      • Christin

        Independent Thinker,

        You don’t have to use Synthetic Chemical Fertilizers.

        You can use Natural Alternatives to nourish your soil:

        Bone Meal for phosphates
        Blood Meal for Nitrogen
        Ash from wood burn pit (no trash) for potash

        and of course, manure and compost.

        This year instead of Miracle Grow which is synthetic, I bought Nature’s Creation Organics Quick Dissolve Plant food (powder) with Mycorrhizal Fungi (Made in the USA) for my fruit trees and garden beds.

      • Tom W.

        I just went and bought a yard of mushroom compost this mornin’, it smelled sooo good! When the old feller loadin’ my truck gave me a scoop with his loader, the stuff was smokin’!!! It’s amazing what you can do with some rotting leaves, kitchen waste, and a little chicken poop!

    • Tom W.

      There’s only two things in life that money can’t buy Maynard… True love and home grown tomatoes! YUM!!!

  • Suzette

    Chemicals and Chemical Fertlizers do not produce more – they actually cause short term growth and then long term loss as they damage the soil.

    We can grow so much more food utilizing organic methods. The Rodale institute has done many studies on organic vs conventional and the stats are there on their website for anyone to see. Organic outperforms Conventional and it doesn’t harm the environment.
    Some intensive organic methods can grow 2- 6 times more food than conventional….but guess what cause a big agricorp isn’t behind it you’ll never hear about it.

    There are many forms of sustainable agriculture – bio-intensive, permaculture, agroforestry, biodynamic, are just some to name a few….we are learning the science behind these successful methods as we go on.

    The “Green revolution” really only helped with short term gains – all the countries are having problems now that were bullied into using gmo seeds and chemical fertlizers.
    Most of them are importing food. The few farms that are doing well in their countries are guess what – Organic.

    I work on a farm and study farming…and i can tell you that tilling is passe (no till is the way to go), crop rotations, cover crops, composting, either via the sheet method or in a pile, companion planting, permaculture, the wave of the future will be urban/local farming – it will be organic or close to it and it will take into account the local environment.
    It will be a net producer as it used to be in the past vs a net loss as it is now. (when you consider all the inputs – machinery, chemicals $, fertilizers$)

    People think you need a lot of acreage to grow food – it just isn’t so…everytime i drive by a lawn i look at it as if it’s a big wasteland….it could at least have fruit trees, flowers and attract bees and hummingbirds etc…so much boring wasted shrubbery.

    If you want to give me your email I can email you some links and data or maybe Bob would be willing to post on his site. I have a lot of scholarly research and links i’m willing to share.

    • OB1

      Most excellent. I studied french intensive gardening years ago. Would like very much to share this info with you. Excellent links…spot on.

    • Christin


      Very informative sites… thanks for sharing.

      Someone should show this video and article to American people as many or most do not know how to grow food nor do they all understand organic versus chemical.

      Could be a great city program to teach gardening on empty lots or containers for healthy organic food… if only the neighborhood people would respect the garden and the work that went into it and not damage it… all could share who help.

    • Tom W.

      Great post Suzette!!! Thank you hon!

  • Priscilla King

    Excellent! Liked and linked.

  • Dagger

    America has Gestapo organisations just like Nazi Germany. It will not be very long until all natural foods will be outlawed. Anyone wishing to have their own garden will be required to get permission from the storm troopers at FDA, TSA and EPA. The other commodities that are sure to be outlawed are vitamins and natural supplements. The medical profession along with Big Pharma does not want anyone to be healthy. After all, if everyone was healthy, where would the trillions of dollars come from to support the drug companies. However, to the rescue will come the government thugs to enforce the new laws that were passed when obamacare came into existence. No one yet knows all the new laws and regulations that will be imposed on the American people that were included in obamacare.

    • Old Sarge

      The Food Safety Act signed during the Lame Duck session is the one that talks more about personal gardens. A lot of Republicans voted for it too.

    • Tom W.

      Hey Dagger, you mean kinda like the city of Houston’s new ordinance making it illegal for street ministries to feed the homeless without a special permit which costs $250?! And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, because if the food isn’t prepared in a Health Dept. inspected kitchen, you have NO chance of getting a permit! The city of Philadelphia (The city of BROTHERLY LOVE!) has recently passed a similar ordinance!!! Guess what party both mayors belong to?!!

  • Old Sarge

    This is sad….
    The Russian newspaper, Pravda (English Edition), lamenting America ‘s descent into Marxism…
    American capitalism gone without a whimper
    Source: Pravda.Ru
    It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Socialism/Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.
    True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Socialists/Marxists.
    Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters.
    First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blindeth the foolish.
    Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America .
    The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America ‘s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.
    These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the sheer volumes. Should we congratulate them?
    These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters.
    Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions.
    So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.
    Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman’s” whimper.
    So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue) and his Marxist enlightenment, has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive.
    The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left.
    The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.
    Stanislav Mishin
    The article has been reprinted with the permission from the author

    • FreedomFighter

      I predict Civil war within 6 months.

      Obama and cronies know it too, they are preparing.

      To all whom have sons, daughters, or fathers and mothers in the US Military,

      Call them, write them, email them, speak to them and tell them:

      Side with the constitution, side with the American people, do as your oath demands and help stop the evil that has invaded our government at all levels. Keep us FREE.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Wyatt

      Yes Sarge , I am sure they would notice having lived it . But when you elect a Marxist you get Marxism/ Communism , call it what you will . It would seem that everyone but Obama , the Democrats , the Liberal Left Wingers et al got the Memo . Communism , Marxism , Socialism doesn’t work . It has never worked anywhere it was instituted . The system on paper is wonderful , makes for good rhetoric but as for working ? Perhaps for a short term to keep a dictator or ruling class in luxury for a period but never to any great length .
      Now they want to dictate what we eat and grow . I suppose if we can’t be controlled if we aren’t hungry because we grow our own .

    • Tom W.

      Proverbs 16:18 (KJV) – “Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.”

      Sarge, I’m tired’ I had a rough day, it’s becoming an effort to hold my eyes open. When I saw the length of your post, I thought no, I’m goin’ to bed. But something told me it was going to be a good post. It was a most excellent post!!! I’m so glad that I didn’t go to bed! Blow the bugle Sarge!

      “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.”

      The Marxist idea of the law, as officially defined by the Soviet Union in 1938: “Law is a combination of the rules of behavior established or sanctioned by state authority, reflecting the will of the ruling class – rules of behavior whose application is assured by the coercive power of the state for the purpose of protecting, strengthening and developing relationships and procedures suitable and beneficial to the ruling class.”

      “We are free today substantially, but the day will come when our republic will come to impossibility because it’s wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few. When that day comes, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions.”
      James Madison

  • scout

    Dagger, I think you are right on. Me and my family have stopped eating GMO foods all together and are preparing a garden from non-GMO seeds. Corn is the most modified grain and is in everything. Watch what you buy and read the labels. If you aren’t working and sending money to the “system”, they want you dead.If you retire, you are catagorized as a “deadbeat”. Just retire and you’ll see what I mean.What happened to this country? I worked hard and paid in for 40 years. Show me a federal employee who has done that.

    • Old Sarge

      A typical Liberal response would be “That was yesterday. What have you done lately?” That is their attitude.

      • Tom W.

        Their day is FAST approaching Sarge!

    • Tom W.

      Fat lazy ba$tard$ scout!!!

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  • Bill

    We all know Monsanto owns the patents on hundreds of seeds. Anybody following their
    efforts to patent Marijuana seeds for medical use. Yes it’s true. The consequences of this are too mind boggling to comprehend. Billions are on the table. Value of the stock in their medical research and drug producing firms. Get ready America, your about to see the real power of lobbying on the HIll. The definition of insider trading will be redefined.

    • Tom W.

      OK, I’ve had enough! Isn’t anything sacred anymore?!! On that note, I’m goin’ to bed. Good night everybody! Is your lamp trimmed and BURNING?!! (Matt. 25:1-13) Because if you’re not LOOKING UP, (Luke 21:28) you SURELY to GOD must be BLIND!!! (II Cor. 4:3&4) You don’t even want to be TOLD to line up with the goats!!! (Matt. 25:31-46) Keep your eyes on the skies, JESUS IS COMIN’! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

      Genesis 1:29 (KJV)
      “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.”


  • mark

    Obama sucks!!!!!!

    • John

      This has nothing to do with Obama… do your research into this problem and you will find that it is common throughout recent history… independent of who is or was in the WH.

      • Christin

        You’re right, John, but Mark is still right about obama!

    • Tom W.

      That’s why Bill likes him better than Monica!!!

  • Chisna

    Funny, many people have been trying to bring this to the attention of the American people for decades. Only to be labeled tree huggers or environmentalist wackos…..

  • Chisna

    I’ve been growing heirloom varsities of vegetables for going on 20 years now.
    And I save and collect most of my own seed’s. Which really save’s a lot of money
    after the initial investment. Over the years I have come across some vegetables that
    you can’t find in the grocery stores. Romanesco broccoli is now my favorite vegetable by far. One that I had never seen before, even in my local farmers market. Which is also the
    place everyone that doesn’t grow their own should be buying their vegetables.
    At least during the growing season.

    • John

      One of the best “vegetables” I found a few years ago was a nettle that has higher nutritional values and tastes exactly like spinach.. but can not be consumed raw. I brought some seeds over with me from a visit to Europe but have since seen that it also grows wild in some places in the US. The beauty is that it grows just about everywhere, and is very beneficiary when it is grown on compost piles and along side the garden. In Germany they call it “brennessel” I love the taste of it. I use the older leaves in a sud to spray my fruit trees and bushes and it helps against a whole lot of pests.

      • Christin


        I have heard about ‘nettle’… we have a weed called nettle here where I live and it is bad… has prickers that stick into your skin like bee stingers and makes your hands or body swell up… we all keep away from it… is it the same plant???

      • independant thinker

        Probably so. Cooking it kills the stinging chemical so I understand.

      • Karolyn

        Stinging nettle used to grow across the street from where I lived. An herbalist used to come out in the early spring, when the plants were young, and gather the leaves. Yes, you have to wear gloves 0 Nasty stuff if it comes in contact with skin! It is also sold in health food stores and is touted as a good allergy medication.

      • Christin

        Interesting… thanks :)

  • dagodave

    Monsanto should have been dealt with a long time ago-Science is great but you have to be careful about fooling around with MOTHER NATURE- She can get very upset with changing her formulas!

  • Jeff Moore

    Good Job , Bob…

    I see Monsanto everytime I leave my front door… I live across the street and see “The Mound” here in Miamisburg , Ohio (just south of Dayton). The same facility they used in their sponsership advertisements from the days of black and white tv…
    Quite a history… Raccoon City (from the film “Resident Evil”) was modeled from this, largely sub-terrainian facility. Naturally, we all have known plenty of people whose parents worked there when growing up in this town. And quite familiar with it’s political clout and history for picking mayors, city council as well as county and state government seats.
    What few remember, is that when the KGB fell and time allowed for certain documents to be declassified, “Monsanto” here in quaint,little Miamisburg, Ohio was in their top 10 list of first-strike targets. Though not secret, the military applications have always been “hush-hush” in this, once, tight-knit community.
    Shortly after the toxic nuclear waste problem caused the relocation of the communities swimming pool (located directly below the mammoth facility), the surrounding areas were overly developed and new-blood flooded in with no knowledge of the facility, it’s history, what happened and especially “What goes on up there now-a-days?”…
    Now, it’s merely an understanding…. Just don’t go there… Don’t ask… Just leave it alone… The town will simply get rid of you as quietly as beaurocracy is designed to. Arrest, seizure to estate sale and new resident… The Secularist community now present was hearing terms like “Holiday Parade” and “X-mas” decades before the 111th congress…
    Finally, the people no longer flood in and out, around the clock of this facility as they once did. Though it is still significantly secluded, an “out of sight-out of mind” P.R. template works well in a community drinking heavily flouridated water. Yes, stenility is an everyday reality in the area. It’s like living in the land of the pod-people at times… Rational logic dissapates as dependancy and complacency eventually creeps over the new-bloods… I guess you could say “wash,rinse,repeat” for decades and you can turn a society of sovereign citizens into a flock of sheep that won’t bite the hand that feeds…
    By the way, growing and canning heirloom foods is a good start, but clean water and air are equally important… Sovereign land being the most important of all… The “SB510″ analysis means nothing then… Eminent Domain works both ways, if you’ve got the powder

  • ICE

    With all the additional electrolytes added to create the above,Then add some electrolytes to the vaccines and what do you get?
    An overload of electrolytes on young nervous systems. They burn out.

  • hardel

    hardel says;
    Carry on LOBO,–I spelled your name in all caps, indicating that you are incorporated. I’ll bet you didn’t know that diid you???????/
    I am 71 years young, and NOT a farmer by career, although I was born and raised on the farm until I was 18 years young.
    I remember when I was approx. 9 years young (1949), when my father, on the same farm, was complaining about the price of seed corn being $9.00 per bushel. (.I’ll bet you wish you could buy a couple of train loads today, eh!!!!). That is when an enterprising 9 year young said to my father and I quote; “Dad, why don’t you go down to the corn crib and pick out some of your best corn ears from the crib and shell it off and plant it??. My father said and I quote; “I would but it won’t grow because the bugs will eat it” (1949). So He planted $9.00 per bushel hybred seed corn that the bugs would not eat and fed it to his cattle and hogs and us humans. This is not a new problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Further, what good does it do to produce 200 bushel per acre of corn rather than 40 bushel per acre if the corn has NO or DETERI (MENTAL) nutritional food value???????????????????
    I suggest that you refurbish your soil every 7 years as GOD suggests by planting ‘”HEMP”, GODS chosen plant, (please see the ultimate natural law book , the HOLY BIBLE).!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And no smoking allowed!!!!!!!!!!!! I am surprised that you didn’t know that!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you to our fascist government corporation and many other corporations ( 1937 Marjuana tax stamp act).
    Did you ever inquire where your chemical fertilizer comes from?????????? I suggest that you check out the “Peace River” in Florida. It runs southwest from Orlando to Charlotte Harbor on the Gulf of Mexico.
    Before the cities of Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte existed, Charlotte Harbor, was a fiserman’s paradise. Since corporate Mosaic aka Monsanto took up phosphate strip mining along the northwest bank of the peace river,a fisherman now needs to fish at least 25 miles out in the gulf to be able to eat the fish. By the waythis river location provides 90% of THE WORLDS SUPPLY OF PHOSPHATE for your fertizer and all other uses.
    LOBO, please awaken from your slumber, if you can find the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Shane

      The head waters of the Peace River, start fifty miles from Orlando. They do not orginate in Orlando.

    • Shane

      That’s news to a lot of us gulf fish eaters. The problem is fish depopulation caused by human population starting around the I-4 corridor and going south. While issues have occurred with the mining of phosphate in the area, other areas not even touched by the area of phosphate mines, have also declined. Mainly increased human population, what with ashalt farms (malls, streets, school parking lots, etc.) concrete block trees (high rises, houses, etc.) artificial moons and stars (street lights, athletic fields, etc.) distrubing animals and birds, mega round ball collection centers (golf courses with increase pesticide and herbicide use). So to be fair. You do want to be fair, don’t you? Then close the mines, restrict further construction of malls, streets, schools, homes, high rises, street lights, golf courses, athletic fields, and all other human activies that play a role in harming fish, wild life and plants. What we have is too many Luddites, who are willing to starve others, without a workable plan in place. Let’s restrict building permits, after my home is built and the nice new large addition to my country club is completed. I’ll take my family out to that nice large francise resturant instead of eating out at the local mom and pop diner. Can’t drive that older sedan, when the neighbors and all our friends have newer rides. We’ll restrict farming practices that feed most of the world, cheaply, while complaining over our obese belly. All the while 90% of the readers do not practice what they preach. My wife and I do organic garden, composting going on 30 years, along with recycling those same years, before it became a fad. We neither judge, nor most importantly look down upon those that don’t or just recently have taken the band wagon to recycle. Call me a Greenie, and you’ve insulted the two of us. We have little in common with those that identify with the Green movement, even though our paths do cross at times. We also realize, that many of the worlds populations worries more about having enough protein in their diet, than if one vegetable taste a little better than another. More people have died from the ban of DDT, in poor third world countries, than it’s use. Ask a mom, dad, in those countries what their heart desire is? Food. Sufficent food to keep their children alive. Healthy next.

      Solve the hunger problem. Then we’ll talk.

      • OB1

        Let’s talk. The ban on DDT was completely evil. Most people don’t even know about this or how it has affected the US as well as other countries. Very much appreciated your post. Thanks.

  • aaron

    You forgot to mention rising food allergies. GMO foods are creating a world of highly allergic individuals. I never met anyone allergic to peanuts as a child because those peanuts were not genetically modified.

    • John

      I did not see peanuts on the list of GMO foods when I last time checked. The allergies are because of the other foods we eat and told that they are safe.

      • FreedomFighter

        allot of it is the Soya oils used in processing — 99 percent soya is GMO if I remember correctly.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

    • Shane

      I never heard a child with Attention Deficient Disorder, or Hyperacitivity Disorder before the seventies. Whom are mostly males. Of course this co-sides with the lack of recess in the morning, lunch and afternoon. Which allowed young males the chance to run around like crazy, burning up some of that God/ or if you wish Nature given energy. Males are different, and a large percentage mature 12 to 24 months later than the typical female. Given time, which they are not in today school system, they catch up. Excelling over some females in some areas, falling behind females in other subjects. Both equal in their differences. Males were also allowed to be young males then, without much labeling. Get sent to the principals office,for a paddling or to stand the line outside the office, then back to class. Now at this time, those males of which many fall in the 12 to 24 month behind in maturity pack, are now labled and mentally neutered before they mature at their normal pace in their teen years. We drug little boys (mainly) with Ritilin and other drugs, which has a zombie like result. Children expelled for drawing on paper, a pistol. Little boys and girls be expelled for a little peck (kiss). Can’t give a candy cane with a bible verse at Christmas time at school. No more cupcakes given out on a child birthday at school. But we worry about modified corn flakes.

      This country has been changed from men and women of strong foritude, to shallow little wimps. Not resisting while their freedoms are taken, but actually giving it away with a smile.

    • Karolyn

      When I was a kid, none of the kids had food allergies or asthma. Adults as well did not suffer from so many allergies. We are slowly being poisoned. I remember a show on PBS a few years ago where they tested the reporter’s blood and found DDT in it, and DDT has been outlawed for many years. He never lived in the country either, so it wasn’t from spraying. I got an email recently about the nitrites in our water too.

      • Shane

        You blindly trust the PBS? If there were a major issue with DDT in American’s blood stream, we would hear about. Ad nauseam!

      • Karolyn

        Shane – What reason would I have to doubt it? You do? Here’s one site that’s interesting.

      • OB1

        Karolyn, YOU research it! It’s no DDT! Food producers have been putting nitrates and nitrites in our food or years! You are one who quests for tuh, you research this It’s in bacon. natural turkey, lunchmeat, etc. Go!!!

      • Shane

        Karolyn, you complained about DDT. I comment about DDT. But you critized my reply comment, with a new issue, not the one you originally mentioned and the one I commented on. Very childish, kind of like playing checkers. Do we have to jump if a checker is position, or lose our piece. Or do we play that we may refrain from jumping if we desire. But set the rules first. Which you did on your comment about DDT.

        Now as far as your comment to change the checker rules in mid-stream of the game. I’ll go ahead and let you change the rule. I’ll still beat you.

        Life expectancy has increase by over thirty five years in the last 110. Having stated that fact. Many of us, if not all, have been exposed to chemicals that we wished we had not. If we were to debate the issues of modern society as mature, educated and fair minded adults, we would have to place just about everything on the table. Then come to an agreement as to what to take off and not include in the debate about the merits of present manufacturing and life style choices that result in chemical exposure to our bodies. What chemicals and how much, are we willing to accept, as we desire the current modern convenances and life styles currently lived. Do we continue to wash our hands after every bodily function, as opposed to days of old (only a hundred years ago) when a trip to the out house did not result in a dip of our hands in a pot of water and some lye soap. How many times to we shower, as in the days of old, a bath was averaged about once a week or two. Remember that if your shower, you exposed yourself to PCV in the plastic shampoo and conditioner containers. Do we go back to glass milk containers, soda, orange juice, ketchup, musturd, mayonaisse, etc., as opposed to “yes” those plastic containers. Karolyn, metal dash in your vehicle, instead of soft plyable dashes that absorbed bodily and head impact. While we are at it. Real metal throughout the car, instead of more and more plastic and other chemical made components.

        So Karolyn, where do you begin.

        Not so easy is it.

        Much easier to complain without engaging the full ramications of your mental processes.

      • Karolyn

        Shane – Duh! Of course, I know about nitrites and nitrates in food. That’s why I avoid meats with them. I was talking about those chemicals appearing in our water. Unfortunately, I cannot find the material talking about it.

    • MNIce

      Researchers have found that many peanut allergies arise from the use of peanut oil in infant cosmetics (skin lotions, etc.). Little children almost inevitably get scrapes and scratches, and if the peanut oil gets into their bloodstream, it will be identified as “bad news, call out the cops.” Subsequent exposures trigger the allergic reaction.

      The other source of peanut allergy is feeding peanut products to the child too early, while they are still teething. It’s the same mechanism as for peanut-oil skin lotions. In the old days, children were breast-fed for the first year. Now the push is on to wean them as soon as possible, sometimes beginning at four or five months. What that does to mis-program an immature immune system may be material for a prominent research paper (no, I’m not doing that one – the topic is up for grabs for any immune biology scientists out there).

  • The Independent

    These back and forth flames are exactly what Monsanto would love … divide and conquer!

    I am a fierce independent who grew up in Alaska … and I follow happenings across the political spectrum.

    Since this is a conservative blog, I would like to communicate that the liberal blogs are also very much against Monsanto and for labeling of genetically modified food and want to prevent growth of the GMO industry. Consider the following excerpt from an email I received on February 29, 2012. (This is only one of several equally aggressive email campaigns by the liberal constituency.)
    “The herbicide 2,4-D is a persistent chemical with a habit of moving around in the environment. It presents a risk to our drinking water, food, pets, and backyard gardens. A growing number of farmers are concerned about the potential impact on their crops from the herbicide drifting onto their fields.

    “We know you care about the food you eat — that’s why you asked the FDA to label genetically engineered ingredients. Before the USDA makes a decision on 2,4-D resistant corn, they want to hear from people like us. But they’re only accepting comments from the public for a short period of time!

    “Help flood the USDA comment box before it’s too late:
    By cooperating on this issue … instead of wasting time flaming at each other … you could have a much greater impact on what’s happening out there in the real world.

    Each one of us is a “little guy” on this issue … and the decision-makers at Monsanto are not affected in the least by what we write here.

  • ranger hall

    The main issue with Chemicals in our grown food IS that the amount of Vitimins and Minerals have been depleated, a test conducted some years ago in calif, showed this to be true.
    I remember as a kid back in east texas, the food had a Great taste, to day i do not have the taste and flavor that once was.
    Pestisides also have a big impact on our wild animals, some become immune and be come more mutant and requires a stronger poison to kill them,also has shown that they become more aggressive
    Any inputs on this would be nice.
    Farmers are just making more profit off the same amount of land, Money is the factor, Nothing else. In time we will only have large Corp. farms anyway. so if you folks have any amount of land for a small or large home Garden,Do as some of these folks are doing,GROW as much as you can for yourself,Vegs and fruit.
    Soon the Powers to be will start controlling what you can grow on your property, WATER and ELEC will be the main way they will control this.

    • MNIce

      You should do a blinded taste test with traditional garden varieties against the commercial varieties after they have been processed the same way. The loss of taste may be due to the processing (freezing, canning, additives, etc.), or you may personally be suffering from a medical condition causing the loss of ability to smell or taste. If it turns out to be the latter, get it checked out ASAP. It could be a warning sign of a serious neurological disorder such as Alzheimer’s, and the sooner you know about the more you can do to forestall the damage.

      I’ve also discovered that lack of certain nutrients affects the sense of smell. Eating eggs once in a while, along with adequate drinking water, really sharpens up the olfactory sense. So does a change of environment to clear out the habituated odors you no longer notice. Fasting for a day also dramatically increases sensitivity to food tastes and odors.

      Some commercial varieties lack taste because they were selected (naturally, through breeding, not using artificial gene modification) for durability in transport and on the store shelf. It’s a compromise game – all those tasty nutrients are yummy for spoilage bacteria too. Tomatoes are often picked green and ripened with ethylene gas for this reason – vine-ripened tomatoes are too fragile for the produce shelf. You can test the effect on flavor yourself by picking tomatoes when they start turning pink and putting them in a plastic bag for a day or two with several unwaxed apples as a source of ethylene.

  • JeffH

    Michael Taylor, a Former Monsanto Lawyer, Has Been Appointed by the President to the Position of FDA Deputy Commissioner for Foods, is an Industry Fox in the Public Henhouse of the FDA and USDA

  • FreedomFighter

    Obama is a puppet of the Banksters, but the Office of the President itself is being transformed into a dictatorial command and control system. Congress has now been told that they are merely ceremonial, while the military is openly training to wage war on the American people during a staged economic collapse!

    Obama Implementing Martial Law Coup!

    Communist dictator for America — will we let it happen?

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

      It’s about time you people wake up.

  • survivalist55

    I am a small farmer, and I know many farmers in my area whose crops did not produce much last year using these “bad seeds,” hence the high prices of peanut butter and cotton. Thank goodness many of them have regular jobs as well. I do not use gm or ge seeds in my personal farming. Just because I am not rich, that does not mean I am a “poor” manager. As some of you have noted, producing food for the world should not also mean inducing death to them at the same time, whether by chemical death or suicide. My brother in law died from Agent Orange, and you have to connect the links with why so many are dying of cancer in the past few decades compared to the days when we didn’t use so much pesticides in our soils and crops, and our seeds could be replanted from the stock we harvested. Greed produces bad decisions, and bad decisions produce deathly consequences. How do want to die?

    • Shane

      One hundrend years ago, the average life expectancy was around 45 years old. Cell deterioation along with artificial and normal toxification abuse is an accumulation event. Die in your forties from what ever cause besides cancer, means you won’t die from cancer. Most cancers occur past the age of forty five. Having raise this alternative thought (dispute it if you wish)! I do believe that the enviroment does play a role in causing cancer deaths. We should do what we can to elimate or limit exposure to unnatural substances. But one must leave the reason button turned on. Ignorance except by blind luck, rarely has long term positive results.

      There are cost, trade offs, on most of those decisions that we make. Hypocrisy and ignorance deeply concern me. Most don’t realize, because they don’t look deeply into their own life and the judgements they make. That they don’t mind their neigbor’s ox being gored, just don’t gore theirs. I’ll simply this. Many people wish to impose changes to others’ lifestyles, but rarely make substanial changes to theirs. The Amish come about as close to living a life that has as little of an effect on those of it’s neighbors as I can think of.

      Ox – Freedom

      • FreedomFighter

        Shame on you Shane you utterly miss informed and frankly dont know what you are talking about, in fact just about everything you sadly said can be proven false – very easily.

        Your in the wrong place for such a missinformed post.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Oh Freedom Fighter Simplify this!
        He is not completely off the mark. His comment on the Amish is spot on.

      • FreedomFighter

        The Amish work together, not apart, they impact each others lives in significant and wonderfull ways — so our boy is dead wrong. all the way thru.

        Twisting the truth to fit your agenda is easily seen thru.

        Most people only lived to 50s in the past because life was very harsh and killed them early.

        Its well documented that anti-biotics caused the explosion of Polio — thus the vaccination coast to coast of Americans — sadly this fix for polio was grown on monkey livers, thus infecting American society with a entire host of cancer causing virus and disease.

        Look it up, Yourself

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Shane

        Freedom Fighter! What the hell are you talking about. Your comment made not sense what so ever. The only thing I could glean from your assine comment, is that you disagreed. But made no attempt to point out what I stated was wrong.

        While I love a good debate. Realize that my opinions are not always correct. Accept the comments of others with the same respect I would like mine to be accepted. I do reject pure emotional ignorance with out substance.

        You need to first turn on your fairness button on., then engage your gray matter. Then swing away.

        I think your real problem is that you comment too much, and think too little.

      • Shane

        Gee Freedom Fighter, you’re dimmer than I thought. My previous reply was to your first comment directed to me. Still can’t figure out your rant.

        Then I read futher down this site, and caught your further comment about my mentioning of the Amish.

        Gee, you are one mentally deficient reader. My comment about the Amish was positive, not negative.

        My advice still goes. Read more, comment less. There are not points given to how often you comment on this site.

        But led me clear up my comment on cancer, which was a direct reply to someone else comment about how often they have noticed cancer among those in their circle. I did not say, nor imply that todays modern usage of different chemicals, etc., does not lead to increases in cancers. But I’m a big picture guy. Common sense and some intellegence also plays a role in my thoughts and opinions. Most cancers occur past the age of 45. Dispute me. I would like to be better informed, if wrong. So my great-great grandmother/father, and my great grandmother/father who survived to be great-great or merely great, beat out half of their siblings to the age of 45. Who surprise, surprise….died of other causes other than cancer. Now days, the average life expectancy is 70 to 80 depending on the sex. So if cell damage from what ever the cause, including age, is responsible for most cancers. Then cell damage that results would usually takes time/years to develope into run away cells. The higher the current population of the community, the higher the cancer rate.

        But again, I do believe that enviromental issues do also increase cancers. But there is not one issue, nor two, nor even three that result in this dreaded scourge that affects almost all familes. Including my wife, who is a cancer survior, or my uncle who did not.

        Freedom Fighter, lets debate. Not name call. But I’m willing to play by your rules with one exception. I’ll name call too if you prompt, but I’ll still use some intelligence too.

  • Byron Mullet

    How’s separation of Christian virtue and state workin for us? Not to good I would say. Neither is separation of Christian virtue and education…these kids do eventually grow up and become biotech scientists, CEO’s of biotech company’s, heads of FDA, politicians and presidents…regardless of political party affiliation. Maybe, those little big eyed Aliens in spaceships some people see or say they see are just us Genetically modified coming back from the future…smile

  • boyscout

    So, this is news? Errr…its been going on for 50 – 60 YEARS! It was a cause that I took up in the sixties when I stood with the (hrackh) Liberals. What the item failed to mention, other than no rotation single crop plantings, was that the affected soil (almost all commercial farmland) is now devoid of most all necessary life forms (beneficial bacterias and fungi) required for organic planting. This means extremely limited production without continued chemation. Let’s just say that their scientific methods are DEAD on.
    Speaking of single crop plantings, at least we have stopped subsidizing maize corn here in the US. To me , however, it seems a form of subsidy to allow/encourage the single crop, opium poppy, in Afghanistan. Why the hell are we not burning/salting those fields?

  • Why

    Dear Bob,

    Your article was well enough written and timely. However, I am left wondering if deregulation played a role in big business’ and big government’s cohabitation (you wrote: “the company [Monsanto] has essentially become another branch of government.”). The article reminded me of another article you wrote in 2009 “Food Inspector Coming to Fruit Stand Near You” where regulation was being created that harmed small business and benefited big business interests. Had that legislation passed (tongue in cheek) perhaps Monsanto would not have had to resort to sterile crops and other genetic modifications.

    The common consensus is that deregulation encourages competition, But your article seems to suggest that with multinational mega-companies perhaps some regulation might be a positive thing. I cannot help but wonder what the trade-offs would end up being.

    Anyhow, this might be a subject of another article or perhaps a comment but what is your take on this?

    Good Health,


    • Why


      Didn’t mean to forget about your February 2012 article “A Preview Of Life Under Full-Blown Tyranny” where regulation regarding school lunches had truly gone wrong.


  • Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Monsanto and Goldman Sachs are corrupt MONOPOLIES that need to be broken up. The laws are in place for it to happen, all we need is to demand that the authorities do it.

    Monsanto is the single biggest danger to food security.

    • MNIce

      You are obviously a city slicker. Monsanto is NOT a monopoly. Its competitors (and these are just in my part of the country) include DeKalb, Funk’s, Northrup King and Pioneer. You can see their company logos posted by many fields where farmers contract to grow seed for them, but Monsanto fields are rare. Monsanto’s monopoly is on its constitutionally guaranteed patent rights to its genetic modifications. When the patents expire, so does the monopoly, if anybody else is even interested in the products by then.

  • steven

    If we do not kick that comie in chief out of our whitehouse soon .. and i mean real soon .. we are all screwed and there won’t even be an election for ron paul.. so ladys stop talking about birth control and buy a condom.. men get your guns and lets make this happen or america will fall sooner then you think….

  • Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

    Great article Bob,
    your health and agricultural views are why I keep being drawn to this site in face of the very unfriendly conservative crowd who hate progressives and have yet to realize that we are all americans and that we all suffer in this mess together.

    The fascist police state environment is the real problem. An environment where the Corporations have overtaken the government and have a revolving door policy with the Big Agra industrial complex, the big pharma industrial complex, the energy industrial complex and the military industrial complex.

    Less government without cleaning up this bigger problem will only lead to total oligarchic anarchy. We need a powerful, righteous and efficient government. We will only get that by changing the way the electoral game is played.

    Corruption is the problem and we are all responsible for the corruption and greed either because we support it or because we allow it to happen in the first place or because we allow it to continue. We have only ourselves to blame collectively.

    • JeffH

      Eric the Red says…”your health and agricultural views are why I keep being drawn to this site in face of the very unfriendly conservative crowd who hate progressives and have yet to realize that we are all americans and that we all suffer in this mess together.”

      Eric, again you show why progressives like yourself are heavily critisized…you progressives support and promote government force and interferrance in the daily lives of Americans, have no respect for the “laws of the land or the Constitution” and then have the nerve to say we all suffer in this mess together?

      We’re Not In Kansas Anymore: The Progressives Rejection of the Founder’s Understanding of Freedom and the Constitution

      Progressivism was a major reform movement that began in the late 1800s. The movement shared the intellectual roots of European state theorists such as Hegel and Marx. In 20th century Europe their ideas came to fruition in the forms of communism in Russia, national socialism––that is, Naziism––in Germany, and fascism in Italy, respectively.

      Other than children, the clinically insane, and the most challenged among us, are people capable of caring for themselves? Providing for their own retirement? Making choices concerning their children’s education? Incapable of avoiding exploitation?

      It was during the progressive period that the socialist groundwork was laid for the massive growth of government and diminishment of individual freedom during the New Deal. Some of President Woodrow Wilson’s wartime programs were the predecessors of FDR’s New Deal regulatory agencies. Paul Johnson notes that

      Progressivism prefers collective social welfare over its perceived adversary, individual freedom.

      • Eric Bischoff (@ericbischoff)

        Oh JeffH are you incapable of understanding and interacting with different points of view?

        You are so hell bent on making people with a different point of view wrong that you are incapable of getting past your moronic fear of the unknown. Everything to you is about your fear of communism, marxism, socialism. You are clueless.

        Progressives like myself are only ever criticized by people like you who have no undertanding of what I am talking about. You seem to be incapable of opening your mind and finding common ground with people who live on this earth with you.

        First of all you decide to ASSume who I am and then you put your own limited view labels on who you think I am and then you behave as if I am your enemy from that point on.

        Progressivism is an umbrella term for a political ideology advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform or changes and opposition to conservative or reactionary ideologies.

        What is the problem with that?

        Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and the free exercise of religion.[3][4][

        Do you have a problem with that too?

        Conservatism (Latin: conservare, "to preserve")[1] is a political and social philosophy that promotes the maintenance of traditional institutions and supports, at the most, minimal and gradual change in society.

        Isn;t that what we have and keep having?

        Conservatives have been running and ruining this country for decades. Progressives are never in charge, they only press for change. The minute someone is close to being a centrist, you label him as a liberal, progressive, lefty, socialist.

        Dream on you have only yourself to blame for this mess. My choices never win.

        Obama, not my choice, is not a progressive. Some people merely thought he was in their hope for change. He is still running the conservative neocons play book. Not much has changed. If he was a progressive, we would have a single payer health care system as in Medicare for all. And that is what we will have some day when people realize it is the only thing that makes sense in terms of efficiency and lowered admin costs.

        You have no idea of who I am and none of your labels are even close.

        I feel sorry for you.

      • JeffH

        Eric the Red, quit whining you self proclaimed progressive…wah, wah, wah! If memory serves me, you’ve got it all figured out and the rest of us are just stupid…wah, wah, wah!

      • FreedomFighter

        Progressivism is an umbrella term for a political ideology advocating or favoring social, political, and economic reform or changes and opposition to conservative or reactionary ideologies.

        What is the problem with that?

        Actually your definition does not hold water in the modern context unless, as I suspect you are hiding the real truth of the modern meaning and current definition of Progressive and Liberal in the American political environment.

        Progressive/Liberal = Socialist = Communist

        You are a communist, as such, by definition a liar, subversive, and a traitor to America.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • JeffH

        Wah, wah, wah…Eric the Red, I fear nothing, especially you and your ultra-progressive ideology…FYI, I know Obama isn’t a progressive…it’s very obvious that he’s a hybrid Marxist/socialist/communist radical…and yeah, I consider people who think like you to be an enemy to the Constitution, liberty and freedom…how’s that for progress.

        I’ll keep my reality and you can keep your progressive utopia.

        I did like your little ad hominem “ASSume”…made me laugh! :)

  • FreedomFighter

    Alex also talks about the latest developments in the coup d’etat lanuched by Obama and the Pentagon and the government’s effort to turn the Constitution into a useless relic trumped by the edicts of world government. Alex covers the effort by the Justice Department and the FBI to run roughshod over the Fifth Amendment

    The Orderly Extermination of Mankind by World Government

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Debra

      FF, do you really believe we are living in a democracy in this country? We are not and have not for at least a couple of centuries. By the looks of it we will not ever.
      I’m increasingly discovering that a good government consists of many beliefs. Amongst those beliefs: Anarchism, autocracy, democracy, socialism, communism, liberalism and conservatism. The only bitter in the mix is corporatism. Like any bitter in a recipe, it can ruin the entire batch with more than a few granules. Corporatism has lent itself to fascism. Now the ‘finished product’ needs to be thrown away.

      • Alex Frazier

        Debra, we have never been a democracy in the United States. We are a representative republic. The people have a say with their representatives, who present our interests to the House. The rest is out of their hands.

        Democracy, history has shown time and again, is the death knell for any civilized society. It introduces the perversity of “mob rules” mentality, whereby everyone struggles for the reigns of power in order to gratify their own desires and increase their own state of privilege. Every ignorant fool across the nation who thinks he or she has a good idea on how things should be done feel that it is their right to see that idea implemented.

        This social illness leads to monarchy in one or another of its various forms, whether it be a dictator, an emperor, a king, a warlord, etc., even as we are now faced with the prospect of such a thing happening if we are not careful.

        As for the other … governments are instituted amongst men to secure the blessings of freedom for ourselves and for our posterity. Anarchy, autocracy, socialism, communism, and liberalism (according to its modern usage) have no place in any government. All of them are enemies of freedom, except, perhaps, anarchy. But anarchy tends to encroach upon the freedom of others and is therefore the enemy of any government that stands for freedom.

        The one that you believe has no place is the one that has the most place, though its place is in society rather than in government. Corporatism, or free market capitalism, is the life blood of a free country. In consideration of your views, I expect that you’ll disagree with that. It is nevertheless true. Without free trade, unhindered by government intervention, a society cannot grow. The greatest periods in the history of human economic growth were during the free periods of trade. The worst periods in our history were during oppressive periods of government intervention.

        And I would also disagree with throwing what we have away. Someone just needs to reboot the system to get rid of the glitches. If we throw away what we have now, the new version would be ten times worse, written by idiots and socialists who would inadvertently turn us into communist Russia.

  • Katrael

    This is one area where most people have some control and that is to not buy GMO’s. Plant a garden for the health of you and your family using non GMO heirloom seeds that are guaranteed to not be GMO. Good heirloom seeds are not all that hard to find and the good thing is that if you like what you grew last year you can just save the seeds and plant those again and again and again.
    But, the bottom line is that Monsanto needs to be stopped.
    Apparently man hasn’t learned his lessons very well with the introduction of plant and animal species into area’s where they never existed before that led to the exclusion of native species within the habitat all the while allowing the transplanted species to thrive because there weren’t any predators to deal with them. Now we have man thinking he can out think nature or our creator in the genetic engineering department and little is he aware or even concerned that what he may be doing will ultimately turn out to be all wrong as all to often is the case.

    • Christin


      I planted all heirloom seeds last year and many did not come up and others did not do well in the hot south… maybe they are better farther up north.

      I agree, those genetic engineering guys are ‘playing god’ with His creation and ruining it …on purpose because they follow a different master and are not liking the plan the Lord God has set up for us… arrogance… pride cometh before the fall.

      I already started planting this spring and hope I am NOT planting GMO seeds or plants… ugh!

      Are hybrids okay???

  • Buck

    We don’t want to forget about agent orange and the fact that it is still being used without the bad name , nor the fact that the FDA is run by the past executives of the companies they are supposed to be keeping on a leash .

  • Tabatha Basco

    It’s not just Monsanto but the whole of the Pharmaceutical/Agricultural industrial complex that controls the FDA. The FDA Advisory Committee is staffed by industry doctors and pseudo-scientists stuck in the revolving door system.

  • MNIce

    Many of the environmental problems with genetically modified corn or soybeans arise from the mistaken belief that they make traditional crop management practice obsolete. If anything, to preserve the value of the modifications, practices such as rotation and field inspection for pests and possible additional control measures become even more important. If Monsanto is smart, the company’s guarantee will be conditioned on the use of those practices. The farmer who goes wall to wall with the same GMO crop every year has only himself to blame when the modification no longer works, and his neighbors will probably blame him also.

    In addition, it is good practice to plant sacrificial buffer strips or even entire adjacent fields of unmodified varieties to preserve the normal varieties of pests with their vulnerabilities to the protection offered with the genetic modifications. (Some companies are offering a blend of seeds to maintain insect pest vulnerability, but this won’t do anything for herbicides, nor will it protect bees from toxic pollen. Buffer strips around the fields should help with both issues.) Otherwise, the farmer will select for the mutant pests that are resistant to Bt protein in the case of corn or glyphosate in the case of “Round-up ready” beans, and those GMO varieties will be useless for a number of years until the local pests select back to the norm.

    Disclaimer: I’m a small-city gardener in farm country, not a professional farmer. I summarized the foregoing from several articles, such as the following:

  • Debra

    WTF? Finally an article that I agree with 100%! Monsanto is the PRIMO Terrorist!

  • MNIce

    There’s an awful lot of slamming of Monsanto in this article and its posts. Quite a bit of it looks like hearsay, mostly based on suspicion with little or no evidence (sorry Bob, but you got pulled into a liberal anti-corporate story this time). It seems to be mostly fear based on ignorance, with a few juicy facts and whole-cloth myths from certain readers thrown in to lend an air of authenticity. Has anyone produced an actual chemical analysis of the nutrient content of GMO versus non-GMO food or livestock feed? Are there any controlled toxicity or long-term health studies, say, on groups of lab rats? I would think anything extraordinary would have been reported in a number of places, such as A sizable amount of corn is used to produce ethanol (I agree that’s a bad idea), and soybean oil is used to make some plastics. HFCS is nutritional garbage, regardless of the nutrient content of the corn source. Why not use GMO products for these, when it makes no difference if the nutrient content is lower than natural seed?

    Who has a motive for creating an “evil big corporation” story about Monsanto? Well, for one, a lawyer laying the foundation for a gazillion dollar jury award for a difficult-to-prove possible subtle medical effect on a civil plaintiff. The whole story may be mostly another legal lotto scam.

    This is not to deny the possibility that Monsanto is knowingly producing an inferior or hazardous product – there are unscrupulous operators in just about any field of human endeavor. The alleged behavior of Monsanto’s dealers in India in trying to collect on a failed crop as a result of an unsuitable product for the conditions implies they have some bad apples there.

    But Monsanto deserves some credit for trying to reduce the economic and environmental cost of food production. That is free enterprise at its best – people are rewarded materially for producing a product or service of benefit to many others. Until hard evidence is produced showing otherwise, it is best to assume the difficulties with the present crop of GMO plants are the problems and unintended consequences of a new and not-yet-fully proven technology, not a conspiracy to enslave or otherwise harm people. (In fact, caution about the effects of genetic modification inadvertently propagated through hybridization with naturally selected crop lines is a reason why sterile seed production is considered by some in the field to be a desirable feature for GMO plants.) Reasonable people did not blame Thomas Edison for fires caused by improperly installed electric lights or accuse him of collusion with the manufacturers of fire engines; they developed standards for the use of the new lamps. The same principle should be applied here. On the other hand, if Monsanto knows of a health or safety problem with its products and keeps it secret rather than disclosing the problem and reasonable methods to deal with it, then it deserves all the grief that tort attorneys can give.

    The effects of gene modification depend on the actual modification, and should be determined on a case by case basis. A blanket rejection of genetic modification technology is as silly as banning 100 Watt tungsten filament electric heaters (AKA incandescent light bulbs). A man cured of Type B hemophilia using tailored viruses is a genetically modified organism – do we treat him as poison, or as the happy beneficiary of the new technology? God gave us access to the genetic code at this time for a reason. It’s up to us to use it wisely, as part of humanity’s mandate to regulate the environment (Genesis 1:26).

    The connection being made between the Obama administration and a former top-level Monsanto employee looks like a case of guilt by association. Does anybody have a better idea where a government agency is supposed to find somebody with knowledge and experience of the industry in question aside from someone from a similar position in a competing corporation? Does anybody dispute that if a government agency is going to regulate a business, it should at least have some expert knowledge of the same? The key point to take from this is that Congress should diligently oversee the agency to prevent conflict-of-interest corruption from taking place. Since government is far too large and has far too many agencies for Congress to properly monitor, it is imperative to cut government down to size for this very practical reason as well as the importance of complying with the Constitution.

    As far as I know, I do not have any financial interest in Monsanto unless one of my mutual funds has purchased stock in the company, nor do I knowingly buy or sell its products (I simply have no reason to do so; I’m not intentionally avoiding them). My purpose in writing this is to remind everyone of the commandment, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor,” or as Martin Luther explained it, “We should fear and love God that we do not tell lies about our neighbor, betray him, or say anything that might ruin his good name and reputation; but we should defend him, speak well of him, and explain all his words and actions in the best possible way.”

    • Ret

      There is, and has been for a long time, a revolving door between the upper echelons of Monsanto and the FDA. The foxes are guarding the hen house.
      *How can it be cheaper if thousands of farmers commit suicide because their crops failed and they didn’t have the money to buy seed for the next year.
      *Monsanto guilty of poisoning a farmer in France can be googled
      *Why won’t they release their research.
      *If it’s so wonderful, why aren’t they advertising it on the product labels as a great new addition to our foods, instead of fighting to keep it secret.
      *For scientific evidence go to and put in GMO, there’s plenty.
      * Why are FDA whistle blowers routinely bullied and harassed.
      *I personally don’t want to eat food laced with Agent Orange. Super pesticides/herbicides create super pests and herbs. There’s a huge problem now because pigweed has become so hearty it can destroy farm equipment.

    • Karolyn

      Thee’s just too much evidence going around against them for me to EVER support Monsanto’s ways. I supposed it’s OK for them to sue farmers for using their patented seed even though it was blown into their fields?

  • http://none Richard Pawley

    This is reply to MNice:

    You ask, “Are there any controlled toxicity or long-term health studies, say, on groups of lab rats?” The answer is yes, in England a year or two ago. Within three weeks of eating GMO corn they developed either liver problems or kidney problems (I didn’t save it so I have forgotten). The farm where I buy my free range organic eggs doesn’t feed their chickens corn at all because of the cost of organic corn AND the shipping costs are so high.

    I would agree that if we have to use GMO that it should be used for non-consumption purposes but I suspect you are new to this area of endeavor. You say that “But Monsanto deserves some credit for trying to reduce the economic and environmental cost of food production. That is free enterprise at its best – people are rewarded materially for producing a product or service of benefit to many others.”

    Sorry but that is simply not true. The cost of foods grown the GMO way cost more than conventional foods and there is no free enterprise about it. Evidence released from the stolen government files known as the Wikileaks documents indicates that our government has been using strong arm tactics to force Europeans to adopt our inferior GMO seed and we have already done that to the poor Iraqi’s. And as for the long term studies they are US! No human studies were deemed necessary by the FDA other than 90 day studies and since no one died in 90 days they approved everything, even things other scientists begged them not to. A person could take arsenic in small amounts for 90 days with no obvious ill affect, and Round-up is far more dangerous than arsenic.

    You have been sold a bill of goods. Monsanto has patented over 10,000 seeds including some I have read they did nothing to – so personally I don’t know how the patent office could agree. FREE ENTERPRISE!
    Not on your life. One of the good things that came out of the stolen Wikileaks documents (although I don’t condone theft Jesus did say that which is done in the dark will be revealed it the light) is that we have been pressuring the Europeans to lay off their opposition to our Frankenfoods or GMO seeds and elsewhere I read that we have required the Iraqi’s to use our GMO food so soon they may all the problems we are having.

    To many of senators are corrupt to get anything meaningful done and our president is making them almost irrelevant by going around them with un-appointed Czars, more than any other president in history, and just last Friday posted an incredible new law fit for an emperor (see below). These are sad times for the Republic and you are not going to like the future, nor will 99% of the rest of us.

    New law:

    Ralph Herman mentions above something about DDT but DDT may have been given a bad rap. The evidence didn’t back it up as much as was made out to be. One leading scientist recently said he would rather eat natural food (normal or NON-GMO crops) sprayed with DDT than GMO foods.

    California had to pass a law to stop Monsanto from suing people whose farms had been contaminated by GMO. In Australia one huge organic farm lost their rating as organic when GMO pollen from a nearby farm polluted it. Did you know that farmers here have to sign a contract that they and they alone are responsible for the results, whatever they may be, of planting GMO seeds, and if they sell their farms the new owner must also agree to this? I for one would not buy a farm that had ever used GMO crops on it. The reason for this insanity is that the ground itself becomes contaminated and no one knows how many decades it will take for the land to be renewed, if ever.

    This is not a Conservative problem or a Liberal problem as the increase in…say Autism…happens to all political viewpoints. Oh, you won’t read anything on this, because it would cost the FDA, the USDA, Monsanto, and others TRILLIONS of dollars for all the Autism cases and the 10,000% increase in Autism since GMO food was introduced into the American food supply years ago without giving Americans a choice. Yes, it could be just a coincidence, as they say, but how come the Amish who don’t use GMO seeds or even chemical fertilizers and sprays have an almost trivial rate of Autism much like everyone else had before GMO? Yes, it’s all just a coincidence. Don’t look at the man behind the curtain. Just move along. The Amish do eat out occasionally and so they do get some GMO foods just like the rest of Americans, even those who try to eat truly organic.

    I have read that Queen Elizabeth won’t eat GMO and has her own garden and some of America’s rich and knowledgeable won’t eat GMO either but how much food do you buy from a local farmer who uses Heirloom foods. Have you seen the ad on TV that says the HFCS is the same as any other sugar? No, it really isn’t unless they are comparing it with beet sugar which is now GMO too. (86% of America’s corn crop is GMO and so corn meal, corn syrup, corn starch, and HFCS used in almost all sodas and colas is made from GMO). You say you are a gardener but if you are not using Heirloom seeds than I wouldn’t want to eat anything from your garden.

    Hundreds of scientists begged the FDA not to approve the genetic manipulation of the grass alfalfa but they went ahead and did it anyway because they could. Alfalfa pollen can spread for FIVE MILES and ruin any natural alfalfa for miles around. The animals who eat GMO crops, apparently corn or alfalfa or whatever are changed by this. Of course the proof of that came not from here but from distant New Zealand. Did you not even read it? It was recommend in Bob’s article:

    Here’s the original source but it’s suddenly not available so I don’t know if you can get it.

    How about the 150,000 farmers in India who have committed suicide over the past decade when they were conned by Monsanto into buying their miracle seed and then couldn’t afford to buy all the chemicals necessary to keep produce the crops. This didn’t happen in just one year but over and over. Poor Monsanto. All those bad evil farmers complaining. Were they so stupid they believed what the Americans told them?
    I’m sorry but God does not condone this sort of thing and all of use – yes ALL OF US are going to feel his hand or wrath. You seem to be a believer so I will tell you what I heard on last November 19th, on a Saturday afternoon while pondering something said in a previous year by someone who told of all the reasons he was told why God had to punish the USA and the World. As I thought about this, reflecting upon it, I clearly heard a voice I can only describe as a voice of steel (in it’s firmness). What I heard was this: MY HAND OF JUDGEMENT WILL STRETCH FORTH AND ALL WILL FEEL IT, SOME MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS. FEAR NOT!

    So I do my best not to fear because I know God is in charge and I know who my savior is but I fear some are going to be totally stunned, shocked, at what is going to happen, but it will ONLY be justice, and some will learn no other way.

    I could go on about GMO foods but nothing is going to change as long as Americans are willing to buy anything they are told and when they buy food care only about price. I even wrote about some of these things three years ago in my last book. May God help us because no one else is going to do so.

  • Karolyn
  • Mary

    Read Seeds of Deception, and you will see what is happening to our farmlands. The
    government should have a sticker on any GMO foods. We have the right to know the
    the foods that are genetically modified.

  • Karolyn

    Sign the petition to the FDA to label GMO foods.

  • Lucinda

    There is also a petition that Obama get rid of his appointment to Food Safety Czar, a Monsanto lobbyist and former Monsanto VP from being elevated to Senior advisor to commissioner of FDA.

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  • ted rees

    I read through some of the above, starting at the top. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any facts or figures. All of the blogs I read are simply like listening to children fighting about something they don’t understand. Are there any grown-ups around?


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