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Administration Eases Marijuana Policy

October 28, 2009 by  

Administration eases marijuana policyIn a significant departure from the policy of the George W. Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder has instructed federal prosecutors to stop prosecuting those who use marijuana for medical purposes in the 13 states where it is legal.

Thus far, prosecution was possible because of the 2005 Supreme Court ruling stating the federal government could continue to enforce U.S. law barring the cultivation, possession and use of marijuana, even in states that had legalized it.

Holder said that "it will not be a priority to use federal resources to prosecute patients with serious illnesses or their caregivers who are complying with state laws on medical marijuana."

However, he added that law enforcement will still go after traffickers "[hiding] behind claims of compliance."

Advocates of legalizing marijuana, who argue it may help treat chronic pain and nausea, have praised the government for the decision.

"This change in policy moves the federal government dramatically toward respecting scientific and practical reality," said Bruce Mirken of Marijuana Policy Project, quoted by the Associated Press.

However, critics have claimed it will weaken law enforcement in their fight against Mexican drug cartels.

During his presidential campaign, Barack Obama promised he would not prosecute medical marijuana users in states where the practice was legal under state law.
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  • Concerned Parent

    It’s outrageous for “critics” to say that declining to prosecute medical users of marijuana will “weaken law enforcement in their fight against Mexican drug cartels.” The health and well being of the American public should be the top priority of American government. If the critics want to put the cartels out of business, let’s allow ordinary Americans to grow a little marijuana for personal use. Limit the size of the growing area or the number of plants, and put a small user-fee on it to cover administrative costs, something like a fishing license.

    One possibility:$100 per year for a permit to cultivate a dozen plants.
    It’s a win-win.

    If you’re on on board for putting the cartles out of the marijuana business, drop a note back to this site.

    • Tammy Ambos

      I agree completely. Selling licenses to grow marijuana makes a great deal of sense. People are not going to stop smoking it, whether for medical reasons or otherwise, and, just as prohibition didn’t work in the 20′s, this is a losing battle. It’s about time our government stopped demonizing marijuana and lumping it in with hard drugs, it’s time we stopped getting it from other countries, and we should regulate it and make a little money for our government too.

      • Winginit

        Aboslutely!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Funny thing about this whole marijuana thing is this. First off, I quit smoking it over 10 years ago. Lets get that out of the way right off the top. But of all the money they spend trying to eradicate it, billions of dollars wasted. The baloney commercials they put on TV about it, are only real to those who have never smoked it, because those of us who have, know they are way off base. In fact, let me add, I think I had A.D.D. growing up, and I got C’s and D’s all through school, until the summer after my sophomore year in high school, I started smoking pot. I went to class my junior and senior year stoned everyday, and I got straight A’s, as it narrowed down my focus to what I was doing, and put all those outside distractions away. It made school easy, so I believe it could be used to fight A.D.D. But I got off track there, as the point I was trying to make, is society demonizes its, puts people in jail for it longer than a murderer or child abuser, and yet this same society accepts alcohol use. Im here to say, that alcohol is the worst drug on the market. Look at the facts. It has destroyed more families, more marriages, more relationships between fathers and sons and mothers and daughters and brothers and sisters, and friends, than all the other drugs combined out there. Yet it is openly accepted, when it destroys so many that it comes in contact with. To this day, I have know thousands of pot smokers, and I still have never seen one get high and beat his wife, or kids, or screw around with another woman behind his wifes back because he smoked one too many joints. No, its doesnt happen. And if anyone is interested in knowing the truth why it is illegal, here it is. Its worth billions of dollars to politicians, lawyers and judges with it illegal. If it is legalized, these guys are going to lose a lot of cash, and they dont want that. So they keep it illegal, so they can take their under the table payoffs, and get money defending people getting caught with it, and its just a big crooked circle. So, in society, once again, if you want to really see why something is so screwed up, look no farther than the so called pillars of society, lawyers, judges and politicians. These guys are the real criminals, and they need prosecuted.

      • leofa

        if you want to make it simple, the only thing you need to do is repeal the law. it was passed under fraudulent pretense (read the history of marijuana prohibition, do google search.) marijuana seeds are sold legally as bird seed. the birds can have it, why can’t we. and i don’t want another fee or tax!!! just repeal the law, NOW!!!

    • Fuzzy

      I am with you…Let’s get with the program here. What the hell is the harm in smoking a little weed. ((However, critics have claimed it will weaken law enforcement in their fight against Mexican drug cartels.))…..Oh, come onooonnnn…..this is (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)!!! Legalize it and help get this country out of the debt that (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) Obama has put us in.

      • Bigvinu

        Legalize it. Tax it. We make a little money, we take out the forbidden fruit aspect and we shut out the drug cartels as there is no longer a need to import drugs from Mexico.

        • leofa

          legalize yes, tax no. no more taxes!!!

  • Barb

    The drug cartels need to be taken down for sure.
    As for private citizens growing pot. After what I’ve learned about what’s happened in CA and how crime has sky rocketed there, private citizens should NOT be the ones to grow, nor sell pot for medical purposes. It should be the Supplement/Vitamin companies who actually do research on plants before they become supplements we buy who I strongly think should be the ones who create a supplement out of pot for people to take.
    Not private individuals, and NOT our Federal nor State Governments. Our government has messed up everything they’ve gotten their hands on already.
    Don’t know if anyone will agree with me, but think some might. After all. Vitamin/Supplement companies are the best as doing the right research to know what dosage, exactly what ingredients, and so on are in each pill. They’re the experts. They’re scientists trained to do the research.

    Thanks for your time.

    • Rick

      I have had enough of the designer drug nation we have become. We don’t need scientist putting THC into a pill format and mass distributing them for their own profit. Growing our own pot will not cause crime to escalate. When was the last time you saw a guy hold up a corner store for a bag of Doritos. Come on guys, think about it. Crime is up in CA because unemployment is high and rising. People are hungry and losing their homes. Anyways, I can do my own research, buy my own seeds, grow my own pot, and not have to rely on a scientist and doctors to tell me how much I need and when I need it. We are relying to much on government, and we should be taking it back from the liberal monkey’s running it right now.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thank you Rick, for being the voice of common sense. I recognize the truth when I hear it, and you speak it. Thank you.

  • woodbutcher

    The DEA claims that 1/2 the profits the cartels collect every yr are from cannabis sales to the united states alone.I we allowed people to grow there own like we do with allowing people to brew their own beer or make thier own wine and allow farmers to grow additional product to sell to consumers from the city that dont hav ea green thumb or a place to grow then we would over night cut the crtels profit in half and free up additional resources to go after the hard drugs that really are a problem. L.E.A.P. is a group of former and currnet LEO’s that want the war on drugs ended . when even the cops are saying it’s not working lets try something else then maybe it is time we actually listened to them. every country that has decrimed or legalized cannabis has seen dramatic decreases in use by minor’s and increases in people seeking treatment for serious drug problems . you cant argue with those kind of result’s prohibition is a failure and we can no longer afford to allow illegal drugs to help fuel cartel and terrorist violence. legalize cannabis and medicalize the hrd drugs so people can obtain them through a doctor and get access to traetment.

  • http://homosexuality Paul D,

    As a Republican for now 76 years, I believe that such comments as mine always reply with “slippery slope” nonsense so please spare me.

    These objections of the A.G.s’ decision are simply silly. I thought we all could read; seems not. If you have no time to read it all, at least read this: Holder said that

    “it will not be a priority to use federal resources to prosecute patients with serious illnesses or their caregivers who are complying with state laws on medical marijuana.”

    I hope to hell he prosecutes every trafficker living; they are scum.

    However, he added that law enforcement will still go after traffickers “[hiding] behind claims of compliance.”

    • Winginit

      I’ve been a conservative for my entire life of 38 years. I began smoking as a teen – yes, I agree, it was dumb. I do occationally smoke for chronic back pain, I have mild scoliosis. I also smoke when I have a really bad menstrual cycle… not that you would know the first thing about that, Paul D. The government always claims to know so much more about so much more than the citizens they represent… can you answer me this: How many smoke & driving deaths occur each year? How many liver or kidney deaths occur from smoking pot? Have you ever had a hangover from smoking pot? Me neither! Have you ever known sombody to drink so much their teeth rot out of their head? How about pot smokers lose their teeth from constant puking? None… there aren’t any! How many bar fights or party fights do you think happen annually? How many people do you know get high from pot and beat each other up? None! Because they are chill, calmly kicking back and eating their box of Cheez-its! How many drunks on a binge get up and go to work on time every day? I know hundreds of pot users who do – same jobs, have families, clean homes, roof over their kids’ heads… just like conservative ole me. It has nothing to do with party affiliation but everything to do with each citizen thinking for themselves not trying to control everybody else! Get back to your constitutonal roots, Paul D.

      Legalize it and let us grow it… the only reason we can’t is because government won’t make as much money as they do confiscating cash and property and won;t be able to validate the request for higher taxes for increase prison population because of a few extra pot smokers who got caught with a bong. Please!

      • ?everything

        I totally agree with you on this winginit!

      • BillyJ

        Well, as a Republican, I don’t want to say this, But Barney Frank, has tried to legalize it, for three years now. I know we are all supposed to hate him, but maybe we should get behind him on this one issue. If we legalize it, alot of the border drugs would decline. Actually, years ago, I read that the drug problem increased when my favorite President Regan, began the war on drugs. Cocaine at that time was something that only the Dr.s and lawyers partook of, due to the cost, when mary jane was put on radar, as it was big and hard to transport, cocaine was easy to transport and became the easist drug to purchase. Then the dealers figured out how to make crack and away we went into the mess we have today. I guess prohibition didn’t teach us anything. Why is it we never seem to learn from our own history? I digress, my original thought is maybe we should support Barney Frank in this one instance. Revenue to us was estimated to be around 60 billion a year, per 60 minutes.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      They dont go after the traffickers. Let me give you a scenario. Youve got these border guards and other law enforcement officers, making maybe 40 to 50 grand a year. These guys smuggle in drugs and pay them that much a month. What do you think these guys are going to do? Yeah, they take the payout, thats why this stuff keeps coming in here. Now if you make it legal, and the government is making money off of it and these guys still try to smuggle it in, well the government gets pissed when their toes are being stepped on, and only then will they stop the flow coming in. Thats it, thats how it is.

  • Skipper

    As a registered nurse for many years, and having worked in several fields, one being Chemical Dependency, “medical marijuana” is a misnomer. There are literally thousands of “pain pills”
    manufactured, many of which are pretty cheap. The kicker is that you have to really need them and need a doctors prescription for them. Pot is very hard on a persons lungs, and having taken care of patients
    who smoked for long periods of time, find that they become lethargic to the point of doing nothing but smoking and eating! In other words totally non-productive in life. Suffice it to say that this idea started in California and has pretty much stayed there. If smoking the stuff was so good for patients it would have spread all over the country and pain pills would be a thing of the past. It does a lot more damage than good to a persons body and mind! There are people who say that they smoke only occasionally and they do not get “hooked” and do not fall prey to addiction. Good for them! I just hope that in time this does not lead to severe lung problems!

    • Winginit

      Skipper: As a nurse you should be aware of the FACT that marijuana is a psychoactic drug not a physically dependent drug like those that are constantly prescribed; i.e., oxycodone, percocets, vicodin, etc. People become physically dependent (addicted) on medically prescribed drugs. I work for lawyers, Skipper. Lawyers that smoke on a daily basis! Yep, it is true! How can these lawyers who smoke pot keep their business up and running and employing people and representing clients if all they do is sit around (lethargic) smoking pot and eating? Stop acting like you are government and thinking you are more intelligent and know so much more about a subject when in-fact you know very little.

    • Rod

      SKIPPER: I find your claim to be a nurse EXTREMELY suspect. Anyone who is advocating taking manufactured and/or synthetic drugs, with their many horrible and ADDICTIVE side effects, rather than natural unprocessed substances for an ailment is either a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical companies or just full of the propaganda that William Randolph Hurst pushed.
      If you did any research at all on this subject you would quickly realize that the positive effect of pot as a medicine have been know for centuries, particularly in dealing with menopause & estris, and been validated scientifically within the last 80 years. Take a look at the story of Dr. Lester Grinspoon for a REAL doctors view point on it validity as a medical substance and the La Guardia report for its social impact

      • Fuzzy

        ALRIGHT Rod……tell it man!!! I totally agree. This is ridiculous. Get with the program people. There is no harm in smoking a little weed. How many times do you hear on the news about somebody getting in a car crash and killing somebody who just got a buzz from weed??? Now…how many times do you hear of the same thing about somebody getting drunk?? Drinking is legal. Cigarettes are also legal…but, we all know about the many chemicals that are put into cigarettes …and they tell you, go ahead, smoke this…it will kill you.

        • Rod the Other

          Thanks Fuzzy!
          I do have to make one comment about no harm….
          Anytime your drawing smoke into your body, it’s not good. SO PLEASE PLEASE, do everything you can to use a BONG the water will filter out over 80% of the none-useful substances and leave you what you want…the THC. Afterall, we do need to be conscience of what were putting into our bodies…It leaves more room (lung capactity) for pot.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I dont buy this lethargic crap. You see, I havent smoked for over 10 years, because I have a CDL license and Im tested all the time, and I have to stay “clean”. So I do it. But I smoked pot for, well from 16 to 40, whats that, 24 years? I never got lazy or lethargic. I worked everyday, and actually worked two jobs for 3-1/2 years because my economic condition at the time called for me to do that. It never hurt my health, or made me want to just lay around. It actually inspired me to get outdoors and do stuff. To hike in the woods and climb the mountains, because it made me appreciate the beauty of nature. If thats a bad thing, then your judgment is cloudy. If it was legal, Id still be smoking it. And to further the issue, Im a Christian, and the only problem I see with it, is right now its illegal, and my God’s word say to obey all authority on earth, so I do. But if authority says its legal some day, Im going to buy me a new lighter and have at it. No stems no seeds that we dont need.

    • leofa

      hey skipper, you are a liar and a phony!!! the fact is this. 430,000 people in this country die every year from willful or passive exposure to tobacco. 100,000 people die every year from diseases caused by intentional consumption of legal alcoholic drinks. since the introduction of marijuana prohibition in this country, only 1 person has died from ingesting marijuana (he choked on it because he tried to eat it while being chased by the pigs)

  • Ray B

    Everyone has or should have their on point of view about everything. While many just walk around to be lead to their next step regardless of who is doing the leading or what direction it will take them.
    Few today seem to remember history. America has ceased to be an export country. America has ceased to be self-supporting. America has been poured into the funnel and is now free falling to self destruction.
    Remember when China was totally filled with opium smokers and users until it took decades to turn that country back in the right direction.
    With more and more door openings facing us everyday as to the legalization of marijuana it will only take a very short time until this country will as dependent as china was on the use of drugs in daily life.

    • Winginit

      Indeed. So many don’t remember History or they never learned correct History… cannibis is one of the earliest plants to be domesticated dating back to Neolithic times. Hemp was one of the most prized industrial products during colnial times and was planted wherever it would be made into a sustainable crop. Man first cultivated cannibis for its nutritious seeds, then its fiber. Many in the US cultivated it until it impacted cotton growers. Yet, tobacco and alcohol are still legal. Hmmmmm…

      • Lindy

        BUT… you have to remember that HEMP and Marijuana are two DIFFERENT plants. You can grow hemp for the fibers for rope, for paper, for clothing. (Speaking of history, it was LAW in the early days of the US Republic for farmers to grow hemp. In the late 1700s every navy needed rope and lots of it. The US was quickly trying to build a navy… which needed lots of rope… which required lots of hemp.)

        OR…
        You can grow hemp for seed, which provides a variety healthy and nutricious oils and foodstuffs. However, once the plant goes to seed the fibers aren’t good enough to be used for much more than straw for animal bedding (It’s not as profitable but still a use.)

        HOWEVER… Hemp is not the same as marijuana. You can smoke an acre of hemp and you WILL NOT get high. Hemp looks the same as marijuana, but it has a much lower, almost non-existent level of THC.

        Hemp rocks but it isn’t marijuana.

        • leofa

          Lindy, T Jefferson said to G Washington “this bud’s for you”
          G W told Ben Franklin as he gave him a big resiny bud “put that in your pipe and smoke it”

    • Rod

      RAY: I find your logic astonishing! To compare the use of Marijuana to opium is obsurd! I can’t even think of an analogy that is sufficiently ludicris to make the point. They are completly different substances with completely different effects on both the body and mind….COME ON MAN! AT LEAST TRY TO HAVE AN HONEST DEBATE. IF you don’t like it fine…Say so, everyone is entitled to a point of view. BUT, don’t go pushing propaganda that has NO basis in reality.

      I am a conservative and have been since I can remember (yes even when I was a teenager). When I was young I was warned of the evils of pot and how you become a loser when you smoke it, all you want to is steal from people for your next fix, you think you can fly off off builds, you go crazy, and rape babies…It was and is ALL A LIE! I smoke POT and know many people who do as well. I can honestly say the about 80% or better of the people that I know who do are good, productive people that have jobs and do their jobs well. Their honest citizens who lead good lives, raise loving families, and genuinely care for the others in their lives. The other 20% are also alcoholics and typically smoke tobacco.

      By the way, did you know that the Constitution of the United States is printed on HEMP paper? The parachute that saved George Bush Sr was made of HEMP? The riggins of the Mayflower and all of Columbus’ ships were made from HEMP? and that nearly ALL of our founding fathers grew and smoke POT?…yeah even Jefferson and Washington

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Dude, our dependancy on alcohol is crippling us now. Do you realize our politicians, lawyers, judges and all these so called pillars of society, that over 95 percent of them indulge to excess with alcohol? And you think thats ok, but holy crap man, dont let nobody smoke a joint. Are you serious? I dont smoke pot, and havent for 10 years, but I am educated and smart enough to know that our society would be a whole lot better if pot were legal and alcohol were illegal. Check out the damage alcohol has done to people and families and business’s and just everything in this country. Its massive.

  • Winginit

    Oh, and might I add that on top of being a conservative who smokes for chronic pain and menstrual cramps, my four kids have been honor roll students throughout their school “careers”. How could that possibly be if I am a lethargic pothead? Because I put my children first – before and above all else and anyone.

    The decline of principals and values on today’s civilization stems from too much government interfereance and regulation, not from smoking pot. If government wanted people to “behave” with certain standards they should look to themselves and see examples they are setting: Rangle, Dodd, Cox, Pelosi, Obama, Jarrett, Jones, Emanuel, Holder, Holdren, Dunn, etc. etc. etc. the decline of principals and values is because there are far too many liberals and socialists and marxists in society that have no real sense of family values – they prefer a career over having children. They admittingly look to people like Mao and Alinsky as their mentors. They prefer the prestige of monetary gains rather than having a family to care for and love… greed and fame is what makes people tick, and where does that mentality come from? Not potsmoker parties, but places we call educational institutions like Columbia U., Maryland U., etc. If we all devoted more time and consideration to our families, this world would be a much better place and it doesn’t take a BA/BS or PhD to put family first – regardless of how much pot one smokes.

  • cynthia

    i agree totally.. like prohibition caused many many deaths this too is causing the same..why not benefit the government with taxes from a totally safe “beneficial plant”.. ??? would stop alot of crime and false imprisoment

  • Carol

    Medical Marijuana should not be against the law as long there is proof from the doctor that is why she or he is taking it to me any thing medical should be legal.

    If anything if they have proof where the person bought it in legal store somewhere the law should stay out of it completely as long it is for medical problems. To much money is being spent for this purpose only.

    If anything else they should spend money on getting so many people that are addicted to Marijuana and is deperate to get off of it but no go after the people who need it to live a more comfortable life that is what the Government loves to do is spend money on things that help people and that is a fact.

  • JeffH

    I personally have no problem with occasional use of marijuana but I must tell all of you that there is a reason why this administration is willing to allow its use. This is another part of a BIGGER PICTURE planned by no other than George Soros and his socialist thinking puppet Obama. There is a stronger underlying reason for this decision. BUYER BEWARE!

    Soros Funding Mass. Marijuana Decriminalization Campaign
    George Soros wants legalization, but at what cost to our nation?

    George Soros must be thrilled. Two hundred days into the Obama administration, and 16 years after Soros began his advocacy for drug legalization and promoting “medical marijuana,” the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) is venturing into the distribution and production of marijuana cigarettes. According to the Aug. 5 solicitation for proposals, the selected organizations will be controlled by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), and will have to comply with FDA regulations.

    • trut

      Good for Mr. Soros, at least someone is for personal freedom.

      • JeffH

        Soros is an avowed anti-American socialist and an admitted jewish Nazi collaberator that snitched on his own people during WWII. He is personally behind Obama and the leftist Democrats with his billions and his lifes wish is to make America a third world nation bound by a One World Order. He hates America. I like to smoke occasionaly myself, but I draw the line on this one because of the SOROS/ANTI-American connection. Here is a link to verify my accusations: George Soros’ Social Agenda for America
        Drug Legalization, Euthanasia, Immigrant Entitlements and Feminism
        http://www.capitalresearch.org/pubs/pdf/x3770435801.pdf

        • Siridh

          Drug legalization and marijuana legalization are two entirely different things. We’re not talking legalizing crack.

          Marijuana is a natural substance and isn’t addicting. It actually promotes peace rather than violence (alcohol) and there are zero deaths attributed solely to its use.

          Why spend the billions trying to get this off the street and incarcerating people for marijuana. If we could get a license (as one poster suggested) and grow our own the state coffers would benefit and it would put a big dent in the drug trafficing at the border. Its a win-win.

      • BillyJ

        Trut, it is obvious that Jeff,and the others don’t like Soros, they seem to think that he alone was able to put Obama into the White House. Just heard on Fox the other nite that most of the donations came from average Americans giving $100.00, and they gave many times. I wonder who the go to guy was for us Republicans? Knowing our history, I would bet, they are just as corrupt. I will do some research just for my own edification. After reading previous sites, just a warning that this guy Jeff, is really, really rabid about Soros being the demise of the country, might want to stay away from any logical discussions about him.

        • JeffH

          BillyJ, do your research and you will see all the links between Soros, the Democratic Party, Obama, Socialism and a true hatred of America and his efforts to destroy the dollar. It’s all available on line. Yea, I know what a threat he is. Look how he ruined the banking in Great Brirain also.

          • JeffH

            One more point, you will also see how Soros and Obama mirror each others ideals.

        • JeffH

          BillyJ, I might add that I welcome you to refute my facts on Soros.

        • JeffH

          Are you using another name like “eyeswideopen”? Your styles are strangely similar.

          • JeffH

            It is the TROLL eyeswideopen! You spilled the beans with “us Republicans”. The queen of the troll brigade is back on site.

          • JeffH

            Her response will be “Sheldon Adleson”, which does nothing to refute my accusations on Soros.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH-I made mention of that myself, writing-styles are remarkably similar.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I think it might be the same, or just another member of the “Troll Brigade”. They all sound the same, and say the same things. It all comes from CNN and the other propaganda they allow themselves to be fed continually. I think thats what it is Jeff.

          • libertytrain

            Beberoni – some people are the same – their writing is almost exact; then there are others who just say the same things. This site is so good for allowing all the diverse opinions.

        • JeffH

          “Just heard on Fox the other nite that most of the donations came from average Americans giving $100.00, and they gave many times.”
          That is a bold faced lie and you know it! Show me the proof and I will apologise.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Soros has enough money and influence that he was able to buy a Nobel Peace Prize for his buddy Barack. No doubt.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If you had any idea of who George Soros is, how anti American he is, and how much the democratic party owes this leech, you would crap your drawers. This guy is clearly no good, and he has funded the left with billions, and it is scary wondering what they are going to do to pay him back. Real scary.

    • BOE

      Jeff you are so right …it is part of the bigger picture and it has nothing to do with personal freedom. People need to google George Soros and the Tide Foundation. Soros is an evil man who is behind the dumbing down of Americans for Obama to slide on in as a Marxist and the next world leader. And the plan is not a pretty picture.

      • JeffH

        Farmore dangerous to America than most people realize or some would admit.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He is a very evil, very anti-American son of a b****, and for a politcal party to get in bed with him, says loads about them. For a group of people to vote for these guys, says even more about them. If they hate America that much, why dont they quit crying about it, and move to Iran or Syria or somewhere like that, where the people can relate to their hatred of America? Just move.

    • Rod

      FACT OF THE MATTER IS….BE WARY OF ANYTHING SOROS IS INVLOVED IN. I am a conservative and also a pot smoker, and will always push for the legalization of pot, because it is my right as an American to pursue Life, Liberty, and Happiness in whatever form I seek it as long as I am not hurting others.
      George Soros is seeking the destruction of our Capitalist system. Stand against George wherever he is.
      My fear of George’ involvement is that he’s waiting till were all good and stoned and not paying attention…
      Smoke prudently fellow Americans! Smoke prudently….

      • JeffH

        You are so right on track. I didn’t even know who or what Soros was until I kept hearing his name associated with the anti-gun movement and decided to do a little research about him. This man is behind this whole liberal left, marxist, socialistic movement and believes in a One World Order. He is behind the devaluation of the dollar and is now supporting China’s rise as a world power to replace the US.
        He has affected currency values throughout the world to his benefit, making billions. It is difficult to believe one man can be so powerful and manipulative, but it is true.
        link this: This article appears in the June 20, 2008 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
        Soros’s New Hostile Takeover:
        The Democratic Party
        http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2008/3525soros_takeover_dems.html

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I am, the most interesting man in the world. I dont always smoke pot, but when I do, I smoke sensimilla. Stay smoking my friends.

  • s c

    Call me a pessimist. While comrade obama may have done the ‘right’ thing (superficially), people need to realize that comrade obama and his stooges have one main talent. Sooner or later, everything they do will turn into crap.
    What I want to know is what comrade obama really intends to do with this matter. For now, I will assume that one of his masters (George $oro$) will benefit from this move. Aside from the fact that $oro$ doesn’t need the money, it’s more than obvious that comrade obama couldn’t get into the white house without such a super-rich master (convenient, eh?.
    A basic principle remains true. POLITICIANS ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED. Comrade obama, in particular, does NOTHING unless it will help him get what he wants. So far, I see no reason to trust comrade obama to boil water or take out the trash, let alone act like a president. He has no clue, and I doubt he ever will. He may be a great ventriloquist’s dummy, but he’s no president.

    • JeffH

      Obama speaks with forked tongue! The only thing that comes out of his mouth is greenhouse gas!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        OMG Jeff, they again are going to group you as Sir Quatro with Rush, Glen and Sean. You are the 4th my friend. Yeah buddy, Sir Quatro. I love it.

  • Gila

    The incredible money in meth has caused corruption in local government where I live. It seems that the authorities have never been so hell-bent to arrest anyone with any weed at all. I am beginning to think they distract the local voters by going after pot–hard.

    The reason I believe this is because I have seen local cops stop people and claim to smell pot–but they find none. They even went to the home of a local couple who are in their 70′s. The old man was a well known athlete–Are they jealous? I mean they went 5 times in less than two months. Again, they and their dogs found nothing.

    However, a local self-ordained preacher acts suspiciously (no means of support). Everyone knows his daughter has been on meth for a long time. She did some prison time for meth: all packaged and ready to sell. I guess it is a coincidence that the cops were harassing the innocent just before she got false reporting added to her charges.

    Moreover, why the hassle over pot while new babies are born with problems from alcohol, tobacco, meth, and oxycodone or whatever?–in this state nothing comes from such neglect but pain and suffering and unpaid medical costs.

    One deputy who was at a school–to keep order–had a really bad case of the bugged–out, bloodshot eyes. (Maybe he had eyestrain from gawking the girls).

    I notice that people forget the fact that under 2 lbs of marijuana can get you 6 months – 1.5 years and a fine of $150,000 in Arizona.
    Also, one can be shamed and ruined by just being accused by any goofy loser cop that comes along.

    Moreover, I think keeping plenty of laws on the books comes in handy when the government wants to control politics–if not for arresting then for accusing and slandering those who are guilty of nothing more that being politically incorrect–or pro-union–or maybe one does not attend church.

    Arizonans have voted for medical marijuana several times, and even weakened the veto power of state government–but still the government defies our will.

    Also, I think the Obama haters should give him a little credit for at least backing off of enforcement–not that it helps where I live.

    • Rod

      I think giving Obama credit is like say, “yeah I got the runs, but at least I’ve lost a few pounds”. The benefits will be short lived, and the detriment to other parts of the system are huge.
      Watch the other hand…He is not to be trusted…He thinks our constitution is a flawed document. Even though it is the most perfect document ever written. He can’t stand the restraint it puts on government.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Actually Rod, I think him and his ilk, the lefties, feel they are above the constitution, and that its just some old piece of paper that they dont feel they should be bound by. They are as pompous as it gets, thats why Im laughing watching them fall apart allready. Have you seen whats going on with these elections in Virginia and New Jersey? Oh yeah, the left is getting real nervous. I think they are starting to read the writing on the wall, that their goose is cooked.

  • Rod

    He is not the President! He was born im Kenya! This elimanates him
    from ever being the President! comrade Obama is going to attempt to
    sign the treaty in Copenhagen that will take away our rights.

    We need to send the drugies over to Kenya. Drugs have been the down
    fall of this country and some people are to dumb to realize it. It
    will always be WE THE PEOPLE not THEM THE CRIMINALS!

    • BillyJ

      Rod, I believe that the Congress must agree with the treaty, if you don’t want it, contact your Congressman, and complain. Get them to explain it to you.

    • Rod

      I want everyone to know that there are 2 RODs posting here…
      Me the Conservative-pot smoker who believes in Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and defined by the individual
      &
      Rod at the head of this thread who apparently thinks it’s American to deny people there right to choose for themselves…Hey Rod, where you drinking a beer when you wrote the above post?…You know that alcohol is a drug right?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He is, Barry Soetoro.

  • Rod

    Gila, If we are lucky, maybe you will get bitten by one of them!

  • Rod

    Gila, HOORAH!!! FOR ARIZONA!!! I always wondered why I loved that state! Into somthing so beautiful—- a little ugliness always seeps.
    So, why don’t you leave the state?

    • BillyJ

      Rod, why do you have to be nasty? I also wonder why no one calls you out on the crap you spew. Everyone is entitled to a view point, if you don’t like it, that is fine, but it is not necessary to degrade them and belittle yourself with such comments.

      • JeffH

        You spew as much as anybody.

    • Rod

      This is the other Rod posting….

      Hey Rod, thats a real freedom-loving-American point of view you have…, “Everyone is entilted to a point of view as long as I agree with it”. Nice man, were you wearing a brown-shirt and jack-boots when you wrote it?

      By the way, did you now that Benjamin Franklin had a vast appetite for alcohol, cocaine, morphine & Marijuana? He was a huge down fall huh?

      • eyeswideopen

        You forgot the women, he really, really like the women. All of them. lol.

        • Rod the Other

          I do apoligize… women & drugs are a favorite pastime of mine ;) I should never mention one and not the other…They do go hand in hand.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          But he never met you.

  • Keith H

    I think marijauna should be legalized,because alcohol is a drug, and it’s legal.If you look at how many alcoholic related deaths per year compared to marijauna related deaths, you’ll wonder why marijauna became illegal in the first place.Not all hemp plants have the THC chemical in it, but it’s still illegal until it’s processed into powdered protein form that’s used for food and sold in healthfood stores.It’s one of best sources of protein,I know, I use it all the time.
    I think hemp should be grown legally in america, just like any other plant.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Well excuse me. If Im going to smoke pot, and it doesnt have THC in it, then whats the use? That would make it ditch weed, which just burns ones throat. Hemp is good for making clothes and rope, but you dont want to smoke it, ok? No, smoking weed, needs to have lots and lots of THC, or you just got ripped off.

  • Robert

    Marijuana is illegal because the US Government can’t figure out how to tax it. Oh yea, there is an old law on the federal books that say you will not be prosecuted as long as you have a federal marijuana tax stamp. Problem is that in order to get the tax stamp you must first prove that you have it. But it’s illegal to buy it and if you prove you have it, you’re busted for possession. Personally, I don’t want to deal with a bunch of stoned out people on the road. Why doesn’t the Government ban alcohol? Oh yea, the federal and state governments get a bundle of cash in taxes on alcohol.

    • JeffH

      The government can’t issue a stamp they don’t even have.

      • Robert

        The Law I referred to was the 1937 Marihuana Tax Act. I didn’t realize it was repealed and replaced with the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970.

    • Rod

      The other Rod posting…

      The reason it’s actual illegal is because of William Randolph Hearst’ propaganda campaign. Hemp was a huge threat to his paper business. Hemp was much less costly to process becasue of the lack of necessity to use chemicals to make paper and hurst sold those chemicals.

      …Just another case of a liberal Democratic selling his agenda as helping the people. When in reality he was helping himself and hurting the people.

      • Rod the Other

        War on marijuana
        Hearst sympathized with Harry J. Anslinger in his war against marijuana. Jack Herer and others argue that Hearst’s paper empire (he owned hundreds of acres of timber forests and a vast number of paper mills designed to manufacture paper from wood pulp) in the early 1930s was threatened by hemp, which: 1) like wood pulp, could also be used to manufacture paper[10] and 2) also had an advantage over wood pulp, because it could be regrown yearly as well.[10] Between 1936 and 1937, Hearst associated marijuana with hemp in his newspapers and published many of the stories that Anslinger fabricated.[11] Hearst played a major part in aiding the anti-marijuana movement, leading to its prohibition in the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937,[12] a law which also effectively outlawed hemp.

      • Rod the Other

        In the early days of our nation, the hemp plant (a.k.a. cannabis) proved a valuable resource for hundreds of years, instrumental in the making of fabric, paper and other necessities. This changed during the Industrial Revolution, which rendered tree-pulp papermaking and synthetic fibers more cost-effective through the rise of assembly line manufacturing methods. A more efficient way of utilizing hemp was a bit slower in coming.It was not until the early 1930′s that a new technique for using hemp pulp for papermaking was developed by the Department of Agriculture, in conjunction with the patenting of the hemp decorticator (a machine that revolutionized the harvesting of hemp). These innovations promised to reduce the cost of producing hemp-pulp paper to less than half the cost of tree-pulp paper. Since hemp is an annually renewable source, which requires minimal chemical treatment to process, the advent of hemp pulp paper would allegedly have been better for the environment than the sulfuric acid wood-pulping process. Hemp had many champions, who predicted that its abundance and versatility would soon revitalize the American economy. William Randolph Hearst, media mogul, billionaire and real-life model for Orson Welles’ Citizen Kane, had different ideas. His aggressive efforts to demonize cannabis were so effective, they continue to color popular opinion today.In the early 1930′s, Hearst owned a good deal of timber acreage; one might say that he had the monopoly on this market. The threatened advent of mass hemp production proved a considerable threat to his massive paper-mill holdings — he stood to lose many, many millions of dollars to the lowly hemp plant. Hearst cleverly utilized his immense national network of newspapers and magazines to spread wildly inaccurate and sensational stories of the evils of cannabis or “marihuana,” a phrase brought into the common parlance, in part due to frequent mentions in his publications.

        • Rod the Other
          • Rod

            Drugs, other than those perscribed by a doctor, are useless for anything but to get high on! If you get the right doctor, and there are alot of “right doctors” you don’t even have to be sick to get the
            good ole doc to do you a favor. The greater percentage of people on
            “hard” drugs, started with marijuana. The people I have had experience with smoked marijuana because they said it got them “high”.
            After smoking it for some time, the high just wasn’t “high” enough
            so they found “hard drugs”. I have had experience working with people
            high on P.C.P. It’s not very nice to watch what that drug can do to people who use it!

          • JeffH

            Nothing like watching that movie stoned!

          • Rod the Other

            Rod…with all do respect…GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. The real GATEWAY drug is Tobacco. Most people who are into harder drugs begin with cigaretts, or alcohol. They usually steal (pinch) these from there parents stash. Also, I usually hear this arguement go in the direction of, “if you legalize it, kids will have access to it and start getting high”. This arguement is totally bogus. With the way the laws are right now, kids can more easily get their hands on pot because it is sold through a black market that has no ge limit. These black markets are also well represented in our school yards. If it was legalized you would see less use of it by young people.
            Now I said “less use” because some people just want to get high with it…Oh and by the way…I’M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I am a responsible adult and it should be (in my world it is) my choice to determine if I want to get high and by what substance. I can’t stand the effect of alocohol (the day after thing) and I have never been disfunctional after a night of toking. Oh an again, by the way, I happen to have 2 college degree that I graduated Magna Cumme Laude, many professional CERTS, a private pilots license (I can’t wait for the attack on that one) and I am doing VERY well in my career. I’ve never gotten stoned & beat my woman, crashed my car, started a bar fight, puked on anyone or anything…I have never done any of the things associated with the depressive affects of booze. All though I do have to admit that I have murdered a couple of boxed of cereal and cupcake.

          • eyeswideopen

            LMAO, smiling and laughing.

          • Rod the Other

            Why EYES? Are you surprised by my comments?

          • eyeswideopen

            Too much chocolate isn’t good for you. Still laughing. Crunchie is my preference.

        • Robert

          Very informative. I had no idea that this plant was used to make paper. I have a gut feeling that some newspapers might be using it now undercover. Their motto could be “All the news that fit to smoke”. But seriously, you provided a much insighted historical rendering of other meaningful uses for marijuana. I wont smoke it but I could learn to read it.

          • Rod the Other

            LOL

          • Rod the Other

            It can also be used as a building material. It would be an awesome alternative for home construction. It regenerates VERY fast, is stronger the pine-wood, and is cheaper to produce & harvest.

            Man…I wanted to say it’s ECO-friendly (and it is), but I don’t want people thinking I’m a “green-nut”. I beleive we should be as easy on the environment as possible, but I am not in “league” with the lefty-socialist-greenies. The green movement is all about social control, not saving the planet.

        • JeffH

          Kentucky was one of the last states to grow hemp I think.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No, marijuana is illegal because all the lawyers, judges and politicians are making a killing off of it being illegal. Its a billion dollar cash cow for them. Check it out, its a fact. They make more with it being illegal, than they will if its legal.

  • Lindy

    As I posted as a response further up the thread… hemp and marijuana are NOT the same plant. Hemp is wonderful plant with a multitude of uses and it’s a renewable resource. You want paper? Clear cut 100 acres of forest and wait 100 years for it to grow back or plant 100 acres of hemp and grow it all over again the next year. Which makes more sense? Use hemp to make warm and very durable clothing. (Think of wool that’s kind of stiff.) Hemp can be used for fiberboard. Hemp oil, although somewhat difficult to store, is very healthy and hemp seed is very nutritious. If you hate fish, hemp seed is a good source of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids.
    But hemp, while very closely related, is not marijuana. Hemp has contains less than 1% THC, which is why you could smoke an acre of hemp and not get the slightest “buzz”. Marijuana contains anywhere from 3% to 20% THC which is great for the “buzz” but the fibers of the marijuana plant just aren’t good enough for any use besides supporting “primo buds”.
    So… in conclusion… HEMP AND MARIJUANA are closely related but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. By the way… hemp and marijuana are also related to hops… one of the main ingredients in beer.

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