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Activist: Tea Party Has A Chance To Revitalize Conservative Movement

April 5, 2010 by  

Tea Party has a chance to revitalize conservative movement, activists predictsAs conservatives across the country are gearing up for the November elections they are looking for the most effective strategies to defeat the Democrats. For one activist, the Tea Party movement represents the best hope to revitalize and energize ordinary people across America who are tired of Washington’s excesses.

Richard A. Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com, delivered a speech late last month at a conference sponsored by the Virginia-based Restore the Founders Vision. During the event he said that the movement has the potential to make the Republican Party more responsive to grassroots citizens.

"The populist Tea Party activists add an important fourth leg of the conservative coalition, to go with the social, economic and defense components," Vaguerie said.

He also stressed that the movement is not part of the mainstream political establishment, and therefore its members do not care whether conservative principles hurt some Republican incumbents.

"The Tea Party people are unfettered to the political establishment and are not part of the old network of lobbyists and special interests," he added.

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  • s c

    Make no mistake about it, this may be our last chance to awaken America. Our in-house, domestic traitors have been deeply entrenched since the 1860s, and they have the resources to pick and choose how they resist.
    The goal must be nothing less than to throw off the chains of a supposedly benign slavery. Our government is a monster, and once it has been aroused, we will soon learn how much ‘love, compassion and concern for the general welfare’ they care to dish out to the American people.
    America, we will have freedom, or we will have utter slavery.

    • Reg Gehret

      The Tea Party seems disorganized at the start.

      I have no interest in being a member of it, but the 2 party system is insufficient for a country as vast as the US. The addition of the Tea Party could possibly bring about a broader view if they would place themselves between the Republicans and Democrats.

      I most often vote Democrat because the Republicians ignore lower income people. Now then Chicago political life is too much in the other direction (Former Mayor Daly(sp) is an example.

      Financially I am in good shape and am not looking for a Govt. handout, and fortunatly Barack Obama is repairing many of the old Republican ideas.

      • Jim H.

        Reg, Just what old Republican ideas is Obama “repairing” All I’ve seen is the situation getting worse since this guy showed up.

      • Meteorlady

        Tea Party does not have “members” it has participants. As for repairing – what repair? I see a mess worse than ever before. I see corruption, increased lobbying, increased spending, no transparency, and certainly not fiscal constraint. I see major legislation passed using a rule that applies to the budget not this type of thing. I see back door deals to buy votes. So if the Democrats favor the poor, why is it that the War on Poverty has added 20% more people per capita to the poverty ranks?

        Liberal/socialist policies always favor the party that pushed for them. It’s more votes because everyone wants Ice Cream. But when the Ice Cream runs out – what happens then? We are currently at the point where 50% of the people are supporting the other 50% when you factor in government jobs which product nothing. If we took at that money we are going to spend on Health Care, we could have give each of the 30million (or was it 47 million?) money to buy their own health care. Or even used it to fix Medicaid and Medicare. Now we are creating 16,500 jobs in the IRS to monitor bank accounts and take money from them. We are adding another 25,000 to oversee this dog of a program. Plus add office space and equipment and what do you have? Another hugh government bureaucracy that is going to produce absolutely nothing and grow until it bleeds us dry.

        Same with the bailouts. If they had distributed just the AIG money to the taxpayers of this country we could have all paid off our mortgages, purchased a nice cadillac health care plan and invested the rest for retirement.

        • Claudred

          Meteorlady:
          You’re comments are right on!

          I’d love to stand arm-in-arm with you at the tea party April 15th!

          Peaceful power to the PEOPLE!

        • eyeswideopen

          Meteorlady, as usual you people are buying into talking points which aren’t true. Maybe you should fact check anything coming out of Newt’s mouth. Or did Rush make you believe this lie?
          http://factcheck.org/2010/03/irs-expansion.

          You need to start questioning the party members who are trying to hoodwink you.

          • JeffH

            Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret.
            Ambrose Bierce

          • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F. Cates

            Eyeswideopen you should know that Factcheck is funded by the Annenberg foundation that gave us such heroes as Bill Ayeres and B.Obama. I would go to Wikepedia before Factcheck. truth or fiction.com is better, or snopes.com.

          • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

            Eyeswideopen: Thank you for your comments. There is already a facility in Houston that Planned Parenthood Operates and the new facility may by this time be completed. It is at 4600 Gulf Freeway. They also operate a facility in North Texas.
            Karen Sebulius, Health and Human Services asked and received millions for Planned Parenthood yet they claim they receive no Federal Subsidies; their own words, not mine. Ms. Yoest of the AUL did state specifically where it was in the bill but unfortunately I deleted the message and is gone forever. I did not see coverage being deleted in Reconciliation but they may have.

            Have to go, my 2 year old grand daughter just arrived and she is a full time job. Talk to you later.

          • eyeswideopen

            Bud, this is the facility that you referenced. http://www.lifenews.com/state2910.html

            The money you are referring to is for the abstinence program, see above, my other link.

            They receive no money for abortions.

          • eyeswideopen

            Norman, thanks for the hint, but they don’t trust wikipedia on this site either. It is hard to find any sites they actually believe. They only believe Fox news, and the washington Post. I usually try and find at least three sites to give info, unless I am tired.

      • Patriot

        Reg Gehret: The Tea Party is not that kind of party. It is a group of citizens who are tired of the take over of our freedoms by the government. There is another political party called the American Independent Party that stand for what America used to be, a country government by the people and for the people, the way it is established in the Constitution originally.

    • JeffH

      This quote pretty well sums up what a lot of us, Tea Party or not, support.

      “He also stressed that the movement is not part of the mainstream political establishment, and therefore its members do not care whether conservative principles hurt some Republican incumbents.”

      Thank god that the masses and the Tea Party people are recognizing the attempts by the leftist controlled MSM and leftist SEIU goons to discredit and paint the picture of the Tea Party participants as radical, threatening and violent. Every report of violence and threats are being exposed as either “fringe” or one of a Soros’ funded liberal organization. Various Tea Party spox persons recognize the Alinsky type tactics when these propagandists that show up to their destinations and wave the foul signs in front of the MSM to get them on camera for all of the country to view. Thank god for people like Andrew Brietbart that catch many of these incidents, like the Pro-Reid egg throwers threatening him and tossing the eggs at the Tea Party bus in Nevada and that some were card carrying members of IBEW and a not so gentlemanly man, identified with his name, holding an egg that was confirmed to have worked for the Nevada Democratic Party.

      This video show the DC mentality towards the Tea Party…
      Rep. Cohen (D-TN): ‘The Tea Party People Are Kind of Without Robes and Hoods’
      http://www.breitbart.tv/rep-cohen-d-tn-the-tea-party-people-are-kind-of-without-robes-and-hoods/

      • Palin12

        You got that right Jeff. The liberal lunatics are trying to discredit the Tea Party by making totally unfounded accusations, especially in regards to racism. As you know I was at the Tea Party last week in Dirty Harry’s hometown of Searchlight, Nevada so I observed everything first hand. There were NO racial epithets, no nooses and no violence on our end, just freedom-loving people brought together to peacefully oppose Obamacare. The left thinks if they keep repeating charges of racism over and over people will believe it. Now the Congressman in DC who was allegedly spit on denies having ever made that report. One report even said there were “a few dozen people in attendance”. Too bad liars, I have an aerial photograph that shows otherwise! I hope more Americans wake the hell up and see it’s all left-wing propaganda.

        • Palin12

          This video from the Kill the Bill rally in DC says it a lot better than I ever could….

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90p6sJpayfI&NR=1

          • JeffH

            A very revealing video, thanks for the link.

          • Smilee

            NARRATION IS ALL PURE PROPAGANDA TOTALLY DEVOID OF TRUTH AND FACT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ACTUALLY HAPPENED SPONTANEOUS, HELL THEY CAME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, COMPLETELY PRE PLANNED AND THEIR EFFORT ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Palin12,
            I hope eyes,smelee,and all the others that claim there are no Blacks in the TEA Party watched your link!!! I did and not only did I see Blacks, I saw Orientals and what looked like people of Middle Eastern decent as well. Kinda shoots their concept all to hell doesn’t it???

          • JeffH

            Smilee,

            Keep cool; anger is not an argument.
            Daniel Webster

          • Smilee

            JOEY BABY, I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT BUT IT IS REALLY IRRELEVANT THE VAST MAJORITY ARE NOT

        • JeffH

          Palin12, so true…relating to the accusations made by the black Congressmen, there were hundreds of media and thousands of people snapping pictures and taking videos and not one has produced any evidence of proof. Andrew Brietbart has offered $100,000 reward to anyone that steps forward with viable proof of that any of that took place. I als saw the footage of him in Searchlight filming the egg throwers and being threatend by them. They bragged to him how they were mis-directing the buses that carried Tea Party supporters to the rally.
          The liberals need to step back and rethink their position in all of this. What they are doing is not random, it is all part of their plan to make the Tea Party look like idiots. Nothing better when it blws up in their face, and think about how the liberals always brag about their higher education and IQ’s. They are looking more and more like the dummies they are.

        • Joe H.

          Palin12,
          Well there was the egg throwing incident!!! What? You say that was from the libbie supporters??? I’ll just be darned!!!

      • Fed Up Gal in Nm

        JeffH,

        What a worthless jerk. Cohen is just a liar and trying to instigate a racial divide! Makes me wonder….What kind of woman would marry or stay married to that kind of jerk?

        Fed Up Gal

      • Meteorlady

        Cohn should look around – the robes and hoods people were started by Democrats according to history. Maybe though the schools will change that in the future when they teach history. Oh, wait… .they don’t teach American History anymore in schools do they?

        • Harold Olsen

          Absolutely right The KKK was formed by Democrats. When LBJ pushed through his civil rights legislation, it was the Democrats (his own party) that opposed it and it was the Republicans who supported it. Yet, it’s Republicans who are labeled racists.

          • Norm
          • TIME

            So Norm is that your new web sight, Wow Goodie for you, any pictures of you in your funny little suit for us all to see?

          • Smilee

            AND EVER SINCE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE SUPPORTED DEMOCRATS AND THE RACISTS CHANGED PARTIES AND BECOME REPUBLICANS AND ITS BEEN THAT WAY EVER SINCE. WHY IS IT WHITE SUPREMEST GROUPS MOSTLY NOW IDENTITY WITH REPUBLICANS

        • Jeep

          Can you say, “Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops”? What a great guy!

        • JeffH

          Dummy, smilee, why don’t you answer your question for us as you seem to be one of the resident experts on racism?

          • Smilee

            JEFFIE, I DON’T KNOW WHY, I JUST KNOW WHITE SUPREMACISTS WILL ONLY SUPPORT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES

          • JeffH

            It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things.
            Henry David Thoreau

      • http://naver samurai

        Remember, it’s God not god.

      • http://naver samurai

        It’s God and not god.

      • Warrior

        Another fine example of democratic leadership which is more commonplace each day. If your own countrymen don’t agree with you then attack them. How in the world do these idiots get into office??? Only explanation can be that it takes uninformed idiots to shepard them in.

    • JC

      A little off topic, but here’s a link to Michelle Obama saying that barack was visiting his homeland…Kenya.

      http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/3261/Video-Michelle-Obama-Baracks-Home-Country-Is-Kenya

      • JeffH

        I posted that comment and link in another entry on this site.

      • Palin12

        OMG is that Bawney she’s posing with? Can’t he even put his false teeth in for the photos?

      • JC

        We’ve been hustled by a cheap con artist.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    I’m a registered Republican and have in the past usually (but not always) voted Republican. I think the Republican party needs to understand why the Tea Party (and other grass roots activist groups) have come about. The Republican party should return to it’s conservative values and to a much smaller government.

    The Democrat party is worried about the Tea Party’s impact, because although Democrats generally talk as if the Tea Party is a bunch of racist people….they really know the Tea Party is growing and becoming more diverse and more educated about the platforms and actions of both parties….so the Tea Party is likely going to be a new and needed dimension in our political process. The more the Democrats make light of the Tea Party….the more worried they really are!

    Fed Up Gal

    • Meteorlady

      Yes – but there are many Black people who are attending and even appearing at Tea Party rallies. How do the Democrats explain that? Is Lloyd racists? He calls himself an American. The Tea party must be doing something right or the left would not be so afraid of them.

      • Harold Olsen

        They don’t explain it. They ignore it by claiming the TEA Partiers are ALL white male Republicans. No minorities or women attend these TEA Party events.

        • Smilee

          NOT ALL, JUST THE MAJORITY AND THE CONTROLLERS, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS ALWAYS HAD A FEW AFRICAN AMERICANS AND THEY USUALLY MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN THE FOREFRONT, MR. STEELE BEING THE PRIME EXAMPLE TODAY, IN MY OPINION THEY ARE BEING USED

          • JeffH

            Your opinions are based on nothing more than pure, unadulterated conjecture

          • Smilee

            I WAS ACTIVE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY UNTIL I WAS 53, WHAT I SAY ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS I EXPERIENCED WITH THEM, WHEN THE FAR RIGHT WING RADICALS INFILTRATED THE PARTY AND STARTED TAKING IT OVER I FOUND MYSELF SURROUNDED WITH PEOPLE FILLED WITH HATE AND MANY ALSO RACISTS AND IN 30+ YEARS THAT WAS ACTIVE I SAW LESS AFRICAN AMERICANS THAN I COUNT ON MY FINGERS, AND ABSOLUTELY NO NATIVE AMERICANS. NO JEFFIE MY CONCLUSIONS ARE BASED ON A LONG EXPERIENCE WITH THESE HATERS AND THAT IS WHY I QUIT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. I HAVE SINCE FOUND IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY JUST THE OPPOSITE AND I ALSO FOUND UNTIL I JOINED THEM HOW WRONG I WAS ABOUT THEM AS I USED TO THINK LIKE YOU DID BUT TIME AND MATURITY PROVIDED ME WITH THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT BOTH PARTIES. WHAT I READ HERE ABOUT DEMOCRATS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN EXPRESSIONS OF HATE OR FRUSTRATIONS OR BOTH AND LITTLE ACCURACY.

          • JeffH

            You keep talking about the Republican Party which isn’t remotely connected to the purely grassrooted Tea Party movement. As I said before, pure conjecture on your part, even with your tenure as a Republican supporter.

          • Smilee

            JEFFIE YOU DUMMY, THEN WHY IS SARAH PALIN THE ONE THE TEABAGGERS WORSHIP AND PAY BIG MONEY TO LISTEN TWO, SHE IS MORE THAN REMOTELY REPUBLICAN, SHE IS A REPUBLICAN

          • http://?? Joe H.

            smelly,
            Yeah, she’s a republican, a conservative not a RINO or fake dem as I call them!!!

          • JeffH

            Dreams are true while they last, and do we not live in dreams?
            Alfred Lord Tennyson

          • Palin12

            and her husband Todd is a registered independant.

          • Smilee

            HAS HE DROPPED OUT OF THE PARTY THAT ADVOCTED SUCESSION FOR ALASKA, HE SEEM TO BE IN NEED OF SOME BRAINS TOO

  • Claire

    I have been a registered Republican for many many years. And I am not a Liberal. I simply try to see/understand both sides on an issue. Then I make up own my mind as to what I believe is correct. At this time strict Conservatism is what I think is the answer to our Nation’s problems. There are so many problems/issues to deal with now that it is mindboggling. These problems have been going on for years. People cannot expect them to be cleared up overnight. I would say this if a Repbulican were President.
    I think the tea party movement appears to be geared towards the right. Especially judging by the speakers they have. And it appears to me the Republicans (RINOs) are trying to take it over. The RINOs are sure trying to take over here where I live.
    I do not consider tea parties to be racist. But I believe racism is still alive in America.
    I have now attended a “coffee party.” It was NOT geared towards any party, totally grassroots. I will be attending future coffee parties.

    • Claire

      whoops—-Republican were President. Too early.

    • JeffH

      Claire,

      The Coffee Party USA site under Donations leads you to Democracy in Action who takes in all the donations for this leftist radical organization. On Democracy in Action’s about page, at the bottom (last paragraph) is proof that they are Astroturf, a front for George Soros.
      Democracyinaction.org: About us

      “Financing
      DemocracyInAction is funded by a mixture of service fees from the organizations using our tools, private grants, and individual donations. You can become a DemocracyInAction donor here.

      Many thanks to our foundation grantors, the Surdna Foundation and the Open Society Institute, for their support.”

      Privacy Policy:
      Your information is encrypted and securely stored. Please note that this donation will go toward the operating costs of Coffee Party USA, a 501(c)(4) organization (status pending). Contributions to the Coffee Party USA are NOT tax-deductible. We have partnered with DemocracyinAction.org to facilitate your online credit card transaction . A charge will appear on your credit card statement as Democracy in Action. Coffee Party USA will NOT share your information with any third party.

      • Claire

        Jeff— Dang it!! @#&$@# I did not bother to pull up anything on the Internet. I went with a girl from my office. The odd thing is that nothing you mentioned was even discussed. And no one bashed the political parties. Of course, it was the first meeting so they’ll probably get to the nitty gritty at their next meeting. Oh well, chalk it off as another hairbrained scheme. Looks like I won’t be going to another one. This is all I need–to get involved in some shyster outfit. Live and learn.

        • JeffH

          Claire, the Coffee Party is the left’s answer for the Tea Party, which is a conservative movement, not a Republican movement. This article was in the Portland Progressive Examiner, which pretty well sums up what their goal is, to discredit the Tea Party movement. Read it and decide for yourself what their underlying goal is. It certainly sounds like the same rhetoric coming from the Democrats and liberal NSM, almost word for word.

          March 15, 2:33 PM Portland Progressive Examiner Michael Stone
          The Coffee Party Movement is the promotion of civil discourse and compromise in the political system. It is an attempt to circumvent the right wing noise machine, an attempt to combat the fear, lies and slogans of the angry, irrational Tea Party Movement with calm and reasonable debate.

          The Coffee Party movement is good people participating in the democratic process. Unlike the Tea Party, the Coffee Party is true grass roots. Where as the Tea Party was and continues to be only astroturf, all smoke and mirrors: media manipulation via Fox News; the Coffee Party Movement is the real deal, a model of grass roots participation: good people, doing the right thing.

          http://www.examiner.com/x-4383-Portland-Progressive-Examiner~y2010m3d15-Politics-Coffee-Party-brews-a-rational-alternative

          • JeffH

            The Coffee Party is a model of the Soros socialistic web of deception and the bad part is that there will be many innocent, honest and good people that will be “used” by the socialist hierarchy to promote their propaganda thru lies and deciet.

        • Smilee

          JEFFIE ALWAYS THINGS HE ALWAYS KNOWS HOW LIBERALS THINK, BELIEVE AND ACT, THE FACT IS HE HASN’T A CLUE, ALSO I’M BETTING HE HAS NEVER BEEN TO A DEMOCRAT GET TOGETHER OF ANY KIND. HE IS CLUELESS ON MOST THINGS ONE ONLY HAS TO READ HIS POSTS TO COME TO THAT CONCLUSION. YOU LIKE ME WE HAVE BEEN TO MANY IN BOTH PARTIES. MY OWN EXPERIENCE, A OF THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS FILLED WITH HATE AND THUS A LOT MORE INFIGHTING THAN I HAVE FOUND IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. DEMOCRATS ARE A LOT MORE TOLERANT OF DIFFERING VIEWS. THE HEALTH CARE BILL, REPUBLICANS ALL WENT ONE WAY AND DEMOCRATS HAD SOME OF EACH AND THEY STILL GET ALONG. TWO YEARS AGO SIX REPUBLICANS IN MN VOTED TO OVERRIDE GOV, PAWLENTY’S VETO AND IMMEDIATELY THEY WERE CASTIGATED BY THE PARTY LEADERSHIP, IN THE 08 ELECTION PRIMARIES ONLY ONE SURVIVED AND WENT ON TO BE REELECTED. IT IS THIS ATTITUDE THAT DIVIDES THEM AND WHY THEY NO LONGER ARE IN THE MAJORITY. DRIVE OUT THE RINO’S, KEEP AN EYE ON MCcAIN HE MAY VERY WELL BE THEIR NEXT FALL GUY.

          • JeffH

            Amongst all of your idiocy I found a common ground we can stand on.
            ” DRIVE OUT THE RINO’S, KEEP AN EYE ON McCain HE MAY VERY WELL BE THEIR NEXT FALL GUY.”

          • Smilee

            AND THAT IS WHY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS FAILING AND MAY NOT SURVIVE

          • JeffH

            I’m not the least bit concerned nor do I support “The Republican Party”, contrary to your constant assumptions.

          • Smilee

            WHAT PARTY DO YOU SUPPORT JEFFIE, YOUR POSTS ALMOST ALWAYS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF REPUBLICAN BELIEFS, CERTAINLY NOT DEMOCRATS YOU HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR

          • Fed Up Gal

            Smilee,

            At least act like you are sober while communicating. Go back and read your blog traffic recently; and as far as your comment….”MY OWN EXPERIENCE, A OF THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS FILLED WITH HATE AND THUS A LOT MORE INFIGHTING THAN I HAVE FOUND IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. DEMOCRATS ARE A LOT MORE TOLERANT OF DIFFERING VIEWS”….if you Smilee, are an example of Democrat tolerance and acceptance of differing opinions….thank God I am not a Democrat!

            Fed Up Gal
            P.S. Sorry about the “CAPS”…I copied/pasted Smilee’s comment.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            smelly,
            I don’t know about anybody else here but I know I’ve never been to a democratic gathering, I never had sheets long enough for robe and hood!!!! I wouldn’t be interested at any rate!!!

          • Smilee

            YES, JOEY, WE HAVE FIGURED OUT YOU HAVE A ONE TRACK MIND AND THAT WHAT ACCOUNTS FOR YOUR HIGH LEVEL OF IGNORANCE ON ALMOST ALL ISSUES

          • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

            President Clinton put a stop to the welfare programs. I believe he saw that this was regressive and continued to keep people in poverty. There have been a number of programs to raise the income and education level of those who didn’t have the means to do it on their own. Both parties have been involved in this so no one party can take all the credit.

            Eyeswideopen: Where are you obtaining your information about all the new jobs created by the Stimulus package? Gained 1500 and lost over 2000 last month is what I read in the Newspaper. The truth is the Stimulus Package was a total bust and full of pork that went to Congressman’s favorite projects both Democrat and Republican. If you think the Health Care Bill is so great you must like paying for abortions, making those who have no insurance buy it or pay a penalty;
            Reducing the benefits of those on Medicare and Medicaid. Of course, you and Smilee are probably going to diss this response but you know what, I don’t care because both of you have a perspective that is hard to understand which most people in these blogs see as well. The fact that this Administration and Congress has already said we miscalculated and need to redo the figures to come up the actual costs of the Health Care Package should tell you something. I was in contact with David Axelrod, Advisor to the President regarding a number of items in the bill and the one thing I tried to impress on him was; nowhere did they consider the infrastructure or medical people to handle the additional millions of people added. It isn’t there and the result will be hospitals and clinics overwhelmed. The Republicans at least had the sense to recognize it for the abomination it is.

          • eyeswideopen

            Bud, you must be reading a conservative paper. I know you are new to this site, and we have hashed this arguemnt in Feb, but for you I will post link showing the repubs who slamed the stimulus money and they begged for it in letters, claiming it would provide many jobs. Enjoy. http://rawstory.com/2010/02/republican-bash-stimulus-seek-money/

          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen

            Bud, you need to read more, and like it or not, the bill doesn’t pay for abortions, that repub rallying cry is getting old. Try watching something other than Fox. CSPAN is really informative. They do fact check.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Bud Grounds,
            the one piece of pork in the stimulus bill I especially liked(NOT) was the seven million to keep the coach at Michelles alma mater!!!! JMan, it that guy is worth seven million, then why did they let hin loose in the first place and why isn’t he with the Cleveland Browns?!?!?!?!?!?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Smelly,
            spoken like the true king of the closede minds that I know you to be!!!! PWEW! I can still smell your last post dude!!!

    • Meteorlady

      Coffee Party is too far left for me and the Tea Party is not too bad where I live. Most people are just fed up with corruption in government. I don’t belong to anything, am an Independent voter and believe that the special interests want this country brought to the level of a third world country because then they will have a hugh cheap labor pool, just like now with the illegals.

      • Claire

        I have checked into them further, And I won’t be going to anymore of their parties. The Repubs (RINOs) here in town are organizing a big tea party. I won’t be going to it either. Being an Independent sounds pretty good.

        • JeffH

          Claire, you might consider checking them out, if for nothing more than seeing what kind of people they are. You can leave if you like or have seen enough. Either way, just an idea and another lesson in life. I went to one here in Fresno last year just to see a diverse bunch of what seemed to be good people, but I’m just not much into crowds.

          • Claire

            JeffH–The tea party starts at 5:00 p.m. and I do not get off work until then. I have to hurry home, feed the dogs, and by the time I get done with them it is almost 6:00 p.m. But I could still give it a go, I would just be late.

          • JeffH

            Claire, do what you feel most comfortable doing, don’t rush anything on account of my words. Your dogs and family are first and foremost, not necessarily in that order though. (I’m smiling)
            There will be other opportunities if you choose, even out of curiosity. If you decide to attend, do it for yourself and no one else.

          • Claire

            JeffH–If I don’t make it this time, there will be others I know. And I will go out of curiosity. But remember, curiosity killed the cat! LOL — I am being silly tonight. Seriously, I do want to go to a tea party. It could very well be informative.

          • Claire

            JeffH– I forgot to add, I’ll see the RINOs at the tea parties here. Of course, I could always heckle them.

          • Fed Up Gal

            Claire,

            I agree with JeffH. Go to check it out and make up your own mind about active participation. One point I’d like to make is: If independents choose not to even check out the Tea Party or if they go and then leave simply because there’s some RINOs’ there….how will a strong grass roots effort ever survive? Why not go and offer your feedback; the more the merrier I say…since that’s the only way we’re going to really understand the issues Conservatives and Independents can agree on.

            Fed Up Gal

          • Claire

            Fed Up Gal–Nothing ventured nothing gained. I will check it out. The first tea party only had about 100 people in attendance. I suspect there will be more at the next one.

  • JeffH

    At the bottom of the page in small print under the heading “privacy policy”

    https://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6500/p/salsa/donation/common/public/?donate_page_KEY=1853

    DemocracyInAction is partially funded by the Open Society Institute, Which is one of the primary organizations of Soros.

    • JeffH

      Claire,
      Here is another interesting article I found on the Coffee Party.

      Don’t drink the liberal Coffee Party Kool-aid
      By Glen Enloe, Kansas City Star Midwest Voices columnist 2010

      “Make no mistake about it; the Coffee Party is a sham to divert well-intentioned and concerned citizens away from the Tea Party.

      When liberals can’t kill or discredit something that threatens them, they morph into something similar to fool people. Don’t fall for it. It’s nothing but another end run to divert attention from real problems and smear a movement that truly stands for something besides feel-good platitudes.”

      http://voices.kansascity.com/node/8360

      • Fed Up Gal in Nm

        JeffH/Claire,

        Jeff – thanks so much for sharing your research. I had heard of the Coffee Party, but had no idea one way or the other. I appreciate your info. I’ve emailed Dale Robertson, Tea Party president requesting more information….but so far I like what I’ve read on their website http://www.teaparty.org.

        Claire – Yours’ was an honest mistake; don’t be so hard on yourself. It’s sad to know that there are people out there that go out of their way to deliberately mislead us, but I guess we should not be surprised. I mean…look at all the smoke and mirrors put on by Obama and his band of robbing hoods. We just need to be a little more skeptical until we know more about the group, etc.

        Fed Up Gal

        • Claire

          Fed Up Gal & Jeff H–

          Fed Up Gal– Nonetheless, I should have taken the time to pull it up on the Internet. But hurry, hurry, that is the story of my life.

          Jeff H — I won’t be wasting my time, no more meetings! You did what I should have done. Thanks for the info. I appreciate your posts.

          • JeffH

            Claire, it wasn’t an easy find. I did a lot of research to find the link, and sure enough it was there.

          • Claire

            Jeff H–Thanks. All of this info is stored in my brain, permanently. Oh, BTW, one of my own “girls” is in Florida right now. She took Best of Breed and a Group 4 yesterday. Another one of my girls that lives in Colorado got her last leg on her Master Hunter. She is now a “Master Hunter.” Yesterday was a good day for my dogs. Hooray!! Sorry, I got off the subject but I had to tell you.

          • Jim H.

            Hi Claire, Congratulations on the success of your pups. It’s Ok to go off subject with something fun like that. Happy Easter.

          • JeffH

            Claire, a Shorthair is such a majestic athlete no matter what the venue, show, hunting ot field trials. Of course good bloodlines don’t hurt and of course the people that help them realize their full potential. Congratulations. Would there be a website where I might be able to view some pictures of your “babes”?

          • Claire

            JeffH–No, I don’t have a website. Sure wish I did. I typed in my name once on Yahoo and nothing but dog show results came up. Surprised me. I’ll figure something out. I may get a website yet. I will check into it. I would have to have someone design it but that is no problem, I will get back to you on this.
            Also, has anyone notice the time of these posts? Mine runs an hour behind.

          • JeffH

            My times show uo as PST, being on the west coast.

          • Claire

            JeffH–My girl that is in Florida took Best of Breed again today!! And a Group 3!!! Hooray!!!! Happy Easter to everybody!! I hope everyone had a great day today!! I am doing the “happy dance.”

          • Claire

            Jim H–And thank you for the congrats! I must remember my manners. I was/am so excited!!! LOL Still doing the happy dance!! You know, I forget the cares of the world and problems in my own life because of the dogs!! They keep me going and I truthfully think they keep my husband going. Sure keeps him active and he needs to stay active. The ones I have are so lovey dovey. They are adorable. And the ones that went to other people also have the same temperaments. Good stable dogs. My neighbors tease me–Don’t ask Claire about her kids, ask her about her dogs!” But hey know I love my kids too.

          • Fed Up Gal

            Claire,

            Just a thought (about the website thing); maybe you could post your pups awards and photos on Facebook? Probably easier, quicker and cheaper (as in free) than creating a website.

            Fed Up Gal

          • Claire

            Fed Up Gal– Facebook–good idea. I will have to check into this. My friend in Florida and I co-own a dog, she is on Facebook and I know she has pictures of her dogs on it. I will post a message the very minute I have my dogs either on a website or Facebook!

        • Fed Up Gal

          Claire,

          Oooooops! I’d like to add: And your “kids” too….Sorry…I don’t have 2-legged kids (just the 4-legged ones)…and I didn’t see your later post about your neighbors teasing you. Anyway, you could post ‘em all on Facebook….lol.

          Fed Up Gal

  • s c

    Why give anyone (let alone george soros) a chance to divide and conquer? If you have found strength in the Tea Party, it is utterly illogical to waste time exploring another ‘party.’
    Soros and everyone like him will stumble and fall under the weight of their schemes. The topic at hand is freedom. Keep your eyes on the goal. Avoid distractions, and let the useful idiots of America rant and rave while America regains its freedom.

    • Fed Up Gal in Nm

      sc,

      I have no intention of joining any type of liberal activist movement…the point I was trying to make is that there are a lot of unscrupulous types out there trying to lure people into their group and sometimes you don’t realize what they really stand for until you’ve asked a lot more questions and researched as best you can. I’m checking into the Tea Party because although it seems like a group I would want to support, I just want to make sure I understand all of it’s core values. For instance, I did not see on their website “how” they would expect elected officials to accomplish their lower taxes. I’m looking for specifics; i.e., no tax dollars to pay for abortions as birth control; exactly what do they believe should be tax subsidized, etc. FairTax.org does explain specifics as to how lower taxes would be possible, but I just have not seen this on TeaParty.org….hoping I will get that info from the Tea Party president since I emailed him.

      • Claire

        Fed Up Gal–Common sense, a person just cannot “leap” into things–like I did. Like my Mother said, “if you make a mistake and tyyou are lucky enough to come out unscathed, don’t do it again.”

        Happy Easter to everybody!!

        • Claire

          typo– “and you are “

        • Palin12

          Happy Easter Claire

          • Claire

            Palin12–

            A Happy Easter to you too! Company is all gone, my husband is “out like a light.” Dogs playing in the backyard. Everything is good. A wonderful day. I sincerely hope yours is great too.

    • eyeswideopen

      s c, so, everyone must follow your idea of freedom and that means not to investigate any other organization? You expect others to just accept that they need to belong to the tea party organization with no questions asked? Sounds a little totalalitarian. You have decide which group is correct and by golly, no one should question your judgement and they should automatically just accept your decision and that is the end of the story. Talk about sheep!!! Independents like to explore all avenues prior to making up their minds. They are known for not having a closed mind, and research issues on their own without undue influence from either side of an issue. You are a classic authoritarian demanding that all must follow the same road and believe in the exact same thing. You are anti-American.

  • http://www.nosmog.com ROBERT

    THE ONLY THING AND THE BEST WAY IS TO CONTACT HOUSE REP. JOHN BOEHNER TO OPEN AND START “IMPEACHMENT” AGAINST OBAMA. IT IS THE LAW SAID IN OUR ” CONSTITUTION AND AMENDMENT LAWS” !. LETS SEND JOHN BOEHNER’S E MAIL:
    John Boehner <AsktheLeader@mail.house.gov

    OR FAXES TO HIM NOW.

    THAT WILL SAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS WITH FRAUD OBAMA AND OTHERS AND PROTECTION OUR AMERICAN COUNTRY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    • Smilee

      IT WILL GO NOWHERE, WHAT A JOKE

      • JeffH

        We agree again. WOW!

  • JPW-

    An attack on our President such as impeachment or physical threats are treasonous in time of war. If your not with us your against us. Us meanining the United States. So mister Robert I believe you should go crawl into the cave with your buddy Osama And John Bonehr.America does’nt need traitors when our troops are in harms way.I know your type your heroes are guy’s like Tim Mcveigh Not the brave men and women who need our support in Afganistan & Iraq.

    • JeffH

      JPW, DUH! The only one threatening the president is your miniscule mind! BOO! Scared by your own shadow! Tim Mcveigh? C’mon, that has become another leftist talking point, we’re wise to you guys. Anybody can study and read and understand Alinsky’s words, not just the liberal socialists that practice it. We’re all not in possession of the low IQ’s or lack of intelligence and education that you believe. Keep on thinking like that as we pass you by…

    • http://naver samurai

      I agree that giving threats of physical harm to the president are wrong, but impeachment is not wrong. Our founding fathers included when and how to impeach the president in The Constitution. If the president has broken the law, committed treason, or basically overrides the Constitution. “Osama’s” czars, bailouts, healthcare, etc., are all unconstitutional. I just read how Indiana has joined the list of states going to court over Osamacare. This heathcare legislation is not wanted by 60% – 70% of Americans and is a violation of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. I don’t think it’ll get off the ground and definately won’t go past 2012!

  • s c

    JPW, since when is Robert not good enough to old-fashioned, American-style dissent? Do you think George Washington never had negative comments thrown in his direction? Do you think Jefferson wowed everybody?
    Robert, I wish you luck with an impeachment approach, but your odds are not good. Do you remember how/why the Bubba Clinton impeachment failed? Back then, it was Bubba or the king of duh, Gore [ARRRGGHHHH!}. Bubba didn’t have the spectrum-wide kook support that put Obummer in the White House. If we can’t impeach someone like Bubba Clinton, we’re banging our heads against a brick wall in trying to impeach someone like Obummer.
    The forces that put Obummer in the White House would defend Hitler or a demonic presence at all costs, as long as their ‘hero’ is busily destroying America from within.

    • JeffH

      s c, you got that right! To add to it, how can you impeach someone that has full control of the process.

  • JPW-

    JeffH You have that right. Bush was totally out of control and where did that get us.Did you ever wonder why he never went back to his stage prop ranch in Texas that had Ya all fooled that he was just one of us.Karl Rove was not really as much of a genius as he is given credit for.It just does’nt take much to pull the wool over some peoples eyes.I’ve never heard such chicken crap rhetoric in my life like oh no their going to take my guns away,my liberties,the sky is falling etc .The only thing you have to fear is your that you dont know or understand when everything is not just about you but also your fellow human being. When someday you realize this you will be a much happier person and lose some of your hatred from within.

    • JeffH

      You idiots are all disciples of the master deceiver and it ends up that you are only deceiving yourselves with your rhetoric. You’re right, it doesn’t take much to pull the wool over someones eyes, especially those eyes belonging to the liberals that are being used and duped by Obama to promote his socialist agenda on America. You people are nothing more than pawns in chess game to him, expendable!
      Who is really promoting threats and violence in America. The same people that promoted the threats and violence against Bush during his 8 years as president. The Democrats, liberals, MOVEON.ORG and the Soros connected groups and organizations including their bought and paid for media outlets. They’ve done it in the past and they’re doing it again. Most American’s are wise to the methods used by the left now, plain and simple.

      • JeffH

        Violence is nothing new to the liberals, heck, they wrote the book!

    • http://naver samurai

      Face it, liberal loon! We were safer under Bush than with Osama! That is a fact that cannot be disputed!

      • Smilee

        AND JUST WHAT BRINGS YOU TO THAT CONCLUSION????? NO EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND YOU KNOW!! PARANOIA, I SUSPECT!!!

        • JeffH

          Wow! You tell ‘em Smilin Smilee! Hah! Nothing like feelin’ the security of the shepherd.

      • eyeswideopen

        samurai, ok, mouth prove it…. let’s see some of your “facts” to support that stupid statement. Please remember you can’t claim anything that was prevented. Go ahead, let’s see your stuff.

  • Palin12

    You know another reason the left fears Sarah Palin so much? It’s because she’s YOUNG! No matter how much they try to ridicule her, she’s going to be around for a LONG TIME! Way longer than Hillary or Pelosi.

    • JeffH

      Palin12, Palin may never become president, and that’s OK with me, just as long as she remains a “pailin” in the butt to the liberal left, Democratic Socialist Party and all the liberal Republicans.

    • http://naver samurai

      Yea. She’s a lot smarter and prettier too.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Palin12,
      What age is p-lousey now??? 108 or 9???? She sure looks it!!!! that mask streached over her face like that!! What?!?!? That IS her face?!?!?! The hell you say!!!

      • Palin12

        LOL she sure looks it, but she’s “only 70″ and tons of plastic surgery as has Biden.

  • JPW-

    Years ago I lived in Michigan and our republican governor was George Romney. One of the best political leaders I can recall.Now his son Mitt may be a presidential candidate in the next election and I hope he has Sarah Palin’s support which would be very beneficial financially and politically.Mitt Romney’s health care plan is almost a spitting image of the federal plan which in time will be as popular as medicare but some people just do’nt realize it.Vote for the Big Love guy Mitt

    • JeffH

      Mitt Romney will be forever linked to that disaster and, no, he won’t be the GOP candidate, bet on it.
      I sense a lot of hate and anger in your comments.

      • Smilee

        THE ONLY ONE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO STANDS A CHANCE TO BEAT OBAMA AND EVEN THAT IS NOT LIKELY, WHY WOULD YOU NOT GO WITH YOUR BEST CHANCE??? ANY OTHER PROBABLY BRINGS ON ANOTHER LANGDON OUTCOME IN 12

        • JeffH

          Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.
          Ayn Rand

    • JeffH

      I’m quite sure, based on Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusets, that the Democrats would be ecstatic to have an Obama endorsement.

      • Palin12

        Obama has already been here in NV to endorse Dirty Harry. The usual crap about Yucca Mountain, blah blah blah, ancient history. Turn out the lights Harry, the party’s over.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JPW-,
      George Romney was the most Do-Nothing politician I ever saw!!!! He was one of the worst things that ever happened to Michigan in the 26 years I lived there. I was born and raised in Michigan so don’t tell me how good he was!!!

      • Smilee

        HE WAS A REPUBLICAN WASN’T HE???

        • http://?? Joe H.

          No Smelly he was a RINO!!!

          • Smilee

            RINO is your opinion, republican is a fact, but of course you would not know the difference

  • Enlightened one

    The Tea Baggers are nothing but Republicans pretending to have another course…. Hannity called them Timothy McVeigh wanna be’s….. My take is they just can’t stand to see an intelligent Black president in the whitehouse…. If they were really aginst spending and socialism they would have spoken up during the last administration… President Obamas offered American something in return for his Healthcare bill which will bring down the deficit… Their was a redistrabution of wealth.. The top 2% has more wealth than ever.. At the expense of the middle class and with the help of the Republican party… The Tea baggers seem to have adopted the likes of Sarah Palin as they’re spokesperson and she’s on nothing but a rightwing money grab…Hollywood Sarah is the perfect example of hypocracy …I hope she gets her Million dollar an episode reality show… We need the rightwing version of Gene Simmons and Ozzy Osborn…

    • Mike Grandy

      Your post represents that great divide between the intelligent, educated, and logical thinking majority of Americans, and the blindly obedient, slavish, lock-step thinking of the left…where you obviously reside. Obama fooled a whole lot of people with his populist, well-phrased visition of “hope and change” on the heels of an unpopular war and president. Fortunately, it hasn’t taken long for most of those people to wake up to the reality of just who Obama is. Rather than a president dedicated to the protection and defense of our constitution, he has revealed himself to be exactly the opposite in nature, believing that the constitution is a “flawed document.” But people like you not only won’t wake up, you’ll continue to stay in lock-step with the most socialist, even marxist, president that has ever been elected (some would say he bought the election, thanks to George Soros and millions of unidentified internet doners) in this country. Obama is our first black president, and I’m hopeful that he won’t be our last. But a majority of Americans now realize what a mistake it was not to listen to the warning signs — Wright, Alinsky, etc. — that would have revealed the true character of this man. Black or white, he was a mistake and will continue to wreak havoc on our country until he can be removed, either by the next election or by impeachment (if it’s proven he has done an impeachable offense). Oh, and what sort of bonehead would ever attribute a statement to Sean Hannity like “he thinks the TEA party people are McVeigh wanna-bes.” You are not even on the right planet with a comment like that. That in itself shows just how misinformed — or biased — you really are.

      • JeffH

        Mike Grandy, thanks for your well informed comments….keep the pressure on!

      • Smilee

        THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OF YOUR KIND TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME, YOU ARE NOT IN THE MAJORITY EXCEPT IN YOUR DREAMS

        • JeffH

          Polly want, yet, another cracker? baaarrraaaccckkk! At this rate, you must be a fat cat ’cause you’re always hungry for more

        • Fed Up Gal

          Smilee,

          Well…..at least we still have our dreams; yours’ and those of your PLLL fan club….are now quickly turning into living nightmares. You might not want to be quite so glib about all the “Hope and Change”…careful what you ask for, since that hope and change might not end with your current rock star POTUS….that hope and change just might sneak up on you in a manner you least suspect!

          Fed Up Gal

          • Smilee

            FRUSTRATION!! FRUSTRATION!! FRUSTRATION!! FRUSTRATION!! ITS REACHED AN EPIDEMIC WITH YOU

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Smile,

            Is that all you got? Sounds like a bad re-run. LoL.

            Fed Up Gal

      • Fed Up Gal

        Mike Grandy,

        What a “Grand” statement! Thank you….I don’t even need to add anything to such superbly stated comments (not kidding here; I’m serious).

        Fed Up Gal

      • eyeswideopen

        Mike, maybe it is you who is on the wrong planet. This video shows clearly that he calls tea parties, McVeigh wanna bees, and they clap.
        http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002641

        Bonehead who??? Could it be you???

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Hey goofyeyes,
          dailyfreakingkos?!?!?!?!? did you notice the phrase is said AFTER the camera moves away from his face???? Talk about your perfect time to edit and paste?!?!?!?!? Don’t be rediculous!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            JoeH, you can never accept that your people make some big blunders can you? DO you think that the conservatives are perfect? Come on, get real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?V=ani93ehvxcE

            You all think there is some conspiracy, when your heros are stupid… it wouldn’t matter if I put fifty videos on here showing what Hannity said, you would still be in denial.

    • Barb

      You tried this course before on a different subject and it didn’t work then! You libs just love beating dead horses don’t you! #1 Hannity is FOR the Tea Party movement so he didn’t say that, if he said it you are taking it out of context. #2 The Tea Party movement is made up of conservatives, disenchanted libs, every ethnic group you could name, every age group, every salary level in America across the board! #3 Barak H. Osama Obama for the umteenth time is NOT black, he’s just passing as black! AND he’s a long way from intelligent! A free ride through Harvard does not make one smart! I think your moniker needs to be changed, you are a long way from enlightened!

      • Fed Up Gal

        Kudos, Barb!!!!!!!

        Fed Up Gal

      • eyeswideopen

        Barb, you need to view video above. Then you can apologize if you are big enough to admit you were wrong.

    • http://naver samurai

      What planet did you come from? Yea, he’s negro, but he’s too arrogant and self centered to be really intelligent. Now I know you’re not comparing spending between this president and Bush? Who was the one who bailed out failures and is taxing success? Bush may have spent on the War on Terror and Homeland Security, but he never gave all the handouts and lost as many jobs as “Osama” Obama. If he really wants to prove he cares about the people, let him have the Bush tax cuts that end in 2011 and 2013 continue. I know he won’t do it because he’ll have less money to spend. How is Sarah on a right wing money grab? Does that mean that Clinton was on a left wing money grab from 2000 – 2008? You must be on “Osama” Obama’s hand out list.

    • JeffH

      Enlightened one says: “The Tea Baggers are nothing but Republicans pretending to have another course…. Hannity called them Timothy McVeigh wanna be’s….. My take is they just can’t stand to see an intelligent Black president in the whitehouse…”

      Continue to believe the misinformation you spew…at least you don’t give up on your quest for a society of government dependents.

      I heard Hannity admit he supports Obama’s socialist agenda and that he voted for Obama. He said he’ll be leaving FOX and going to work for MSNBC and he is also an atheist. Run with all of this good information…NOT!

    • Harold Olsen

      We never have had an intelligent black president in the White House. Oh! You meant Obama! You call him intelligent? This moron can’t even make a speech unless it’s written down for him and put on a teleprompter so he can read it. And even then, he can’t pronounce the words properly And if that telprompter breaks down, then he’s really screwed! Yet, Sarah Palin, who gives a two or three hour speech, using only a few words written on her hand for talking points, is labeled stupid. The chair I’m sitting in is more intelligent than Barack Hussein Obama and would do a better job than he.

      • Smilee

        I ALWAYS LAUGH WHEN SOMEONE BRINGS UP OBAMA AND HIS TELEPROMPTER, IT IS WELL KNOWN FACT THAT REAGAN WAS THE MASTER OF THE TELEPROMPTER, ALWAYS USED IT. HE NEVER SAID A WORD WITHOUT IT, AND SOME JOKED ABOUT HIS USE OF IT THEN TO. I DON’T REMEMBER THOUGH THE NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS THAT WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT OBAMA USE OF IT BACK IN REAGAN’S DAY. YOU REMEMBER THAT HAROLD??

        • JeffH

          It would never occur to you that Obama spends an inordinate amount of time between sentances and thoughts sounding out loudly the ummm, mmm, hummm’s. That is an indication of confusion, mis-information and half truths. Sorry, just the facts!

          • Smilee

            I GUESS YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUR HEARING AMONGST OTHER THINGS!!

          • JeffH

            The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody (the liberals)had decided not to see.
            Ayn Rand

          • eyeswideopen

            Smilee, jeff, must have recently read an old Ann Rand, book, now we will see her quotes right after he does his Soro dance. What a hoot.

          • JeffH

            The question isn’t who is going to let me; it’s who is going to stop me.
            Ayn Rand

            I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.

          • Smilee

            EYES I AGREE, JEFFIE REMINDS ME OF A DOB CHASING HIS TAIL, ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND. I THINK THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY HE IS SO DIZZY

          • JeffH

            If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size?
            Sydney J. Harris

          • http://?? Joe H.

            smelly,
            by any chance did you mean DOG?????

          • Smilee

            Joe H. says:
            April 7, 2010 at 8:32 pm

            smelly,
            by any chance did you mean DOG?????

            Yep you are right I did mean dog, the first time I have seen you be right about anything, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Teabaggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette? [No offense to the Hospitality Industry expressed nor implied.] Question: What do Barack Obama and Tiger Woods have in common, and why is it so different? Answer: Tiger Woods calls himself a “Cablasian”, and BrObama is a “Cablafrican”.
      Here’s just one of the little insights Mrs. Palin had: “You’ll get all the health care you ‘need’ “. So sayeth The One, during one of his presidential campaign’s Q & A’s. (Later, a “Panel of Experts” was found in the then proposed legislation, now law, that would determine the value of healthcare to the state verses the individual, with criterion weighted heavily, of course, in the state’s favor. And NY Times columnist, Paul Krugman, just came out in favor of the provision. This is after he vehemently denied its existence and derided Sarah Palin unmercifully before it was passed.) Oh that silly Sarah. “Death Panels”? “You Betcha”.

    • Meteorlady

      Glad to see you have lumped Tea Party people all together. They are not Republicans – they are people that are sick of the Limbaugh’s and Hannity’s spouting off with their radical crap. They are sick to death of socialism and watching their money to go others that don’t want to work for it. They are sick to death of government run schools that are turning out illiterate children. And mostly they are sick of all the corruption and crooks in public office.

      If it makes you feel better to throw out the race card go ahead. It means nothing to most of us Independents that don’t believe either side of the political commentary. What I hate about Obama is his politics – and he’s only 3% black for the record. Who I would have voted for was Condi Rice – that’s a lady with intelligence, more experience than Obama and with the balls to do the right thing for this country. Maybe even Colin Powel because he’s a middle of the road kind of guy and seems to be pretty honest.

      You are just as sick as the people on the far right who listen and soak up every work that Rush spouts out – you have the same guys on the left but wait…. those are your heros right? Their word is absolute and always right….. ops, I mean left. Go ahead and call names and make generalizations – that’s about the only argument anyone for this government has given me – insults, name calling, labeling, etc.

      • Smilee

        WOW, WHAT ANGER, A LARGE SEGMENT OF THE TEA BAGGERS MAYBE EVEN THE MAJORITY LOVE RUSH, BECK AND HANNITY AND THEY SURE LOVE THE TEA BAGGERS, BIRDS OF A FEATHER STICK TOGETHER, YOU KNOW!!

        • JeffH

          Polly want another cracker? baaaarrrraaaacccckkk!

          • Fed Up Gal

            JeffH,

            HeeeeeeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…..LoL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Fed Up Gal

    • http://?? Joe H.

      E.O.
      Proof that he said that please!! And not your usual liberal press!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham
    From: S STEELE
    Date: 3/22/2010 3:10:38 PM
    Subject: FW: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.
    Just think of all the money this would save the tax payers!!!!!

    I think the Senators, Representatives or Congressman that comes out strongly for this will be our next President.

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    Some people got a Raise, I DID Not …

    I will send this out every month until election time, just as a reminder. If everyone remembers, we can make a difference.

    GRRRRRRRRRR….! I’m MAD AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO!

    Your U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700

    and $5,300 raises.

    1. They voted to not give you a S.S. cost of living raise in
    2010 and 2011.

    2. Your Medicare premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and you will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is -$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife

    3. Over 2-yrs The House & Senate each get $10,000 raises

    4. Do you feel SCREWED?

    5. WILL your cost of drugs – doctor fees – local taxes – food, etc., increase? You better believe they will!

    WILL THEIRS…NO WAY
    . They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past.
    You’re obviously too stupid or don’t care. No offense; just making a point!

    6. Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you?

    SEND THE MESSAGE — You’re FIRED.!!!

    IN 2010 YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET RID OF THE SITTING CONGRESS AND Up to 1/3 OF THE SENATE, AND 100% OF THE HOUSE.

    MAKE SURE YOU’RE STILL MAD IN NOVEMBER 2010 AND TELL THEIR REPLACEMENTS NOT TO SCREW UP.

    It is ok to forward this to your sphere of influence if you are finally tired of the abuse.
    Maybe it’s time for the……..

    Amendment 28
    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United
    States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives,
    and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or
    Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the
    United States .”

    Let’s get this passed around, folks – these people in Washington have brought this upon themselves!!! It’s time for retribution. Let’s take back America.
    If you don’t forward this to all your friends you’re just part of the problem of national apathy.

    • Military Couple

      I AGREE & you said it much more clearly and distinctly than I did many months ago. I will pass this around to everyone I know because when asked, most people don’t even realize this has happened. Unfortunately, I don’t think there are a handful of ethical, caring politicians out there who would even try to get this passed. We have let them create a government full of elitist politicians that believe they know better on how to run our lives and who truly believe that they are better than the rest so they vote themselves more & more benefits paid by the rest of us. IT IS WRONG!!!!! Find someone who will stand behind this and I will vote for them- Black, White, Yellow, Green or Pink: Democrate, Republician, or Independent. NOT SOCIALIST because it would be a lie and they would find a way to go around it for their own benefit.

    • Military Couple

      BTW, I think that the 28th Amendment should say “all Branches of the US Government (this includes the Executive Branch & Judicial Branch), not just Congress, Senate & House. NONE of them should have special treatment.

    • Smilee

      James A Graham says: April 5, 2010 at 6:56 am

      I HAVE TO TAKE ISSUE WITH YOUR NUMBER 1 & 2 AS THEY ARE TOTALLY FALSE. NO. 1, THIS CONGRESS NEVER VOTED ON A RAISE FOR SS FOR 2010, NO RAISE WAS DETERMINED BY A LAW PASSED IN THE SEVENTIES I THINK IT WAS 1974, THAT PUT INTO LAW A FORMULA TO DETERMINE SS RAISES EACH YEAR AUTOMATICALLY AND THIS IS WHY THERE WAS NO RAISE IN 2010 NOT THIS CONGRESS VOTING TO NOT GIVE ONE. NO VOTE ON SS RAISES WAS TAKEN BY THIS CONGRESS. AND NO. 2, THERE WAS NO INCREASE IN MEDICARE PREMIUMS ON PREMIUMS FOR 2010, I PAID THE SAME IN 2009 AND 2011 HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AS YET, YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT 28 IS ALREADY IN LAW SO WHATS THE POINT? IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING. YOU SEEM AWFULLY ANGRY AND MIXED UP AND SEEM TO HAVE NO CONCERN FOR THE TRUTH WHAT SO EVER.

      • Fed Up Gal

        Smilee,

        And what do you call your version of the truth?

        Fed Up Gal

        • Smilee

          THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH, IT IS NEITHER MINE OR YOURS VERSION, IF YOU THINK IT IS NOT THE TRUTH SHOW ME WERE YOU THINK I AM WRONG, MY GUESS YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WEATHER I TOLD THE TRUTH OR NOT AS I’M SURE IF IT WAS NOT THE TRUTH YOU WOULD JUMPED ALL OVER ME WITH IT AS IT WAS YOU JUST THREW DIRT.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Smile,

            Now why would I want to jump all over you, simply because you were wrong? You’re entitled to your opinion and to your wrongness, even when it’s just another re-run. I’m entitled to express mine….that’s how it works…sorry to be the one to break it to you….I know you were trying to figure it out for yourself, but I just could no longer sit back and let you suffer through it.

            Fed Up Gal

          • Smilee

            Fed Up

            I didn’t offer my opinion, I gave you facts of law, rather than shooting off your mouth why did you not check the law and then you would have known I only gave you the true facts and not an opinion, your post was just your lying spin.

    • eyeswideopen

      James, do you not understand that the cola for ss wasn’t just decided last year, it has been in place for many years. http://www.ssa.gov/cola/2010/2010faqs.htm#3
      In addition some military will receive cola.
      http://military.com/benefits/military-pay/cost-of-living-allowance

      So basically you don’t think that during this economic crisis that the military or those on SS should have to for go any cost of living increases, while the rest of the private sector employees do so??
      Interesting.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Hey goofyeyes,
        what year was the manditory yearly raise passed for congress and the house:????

        • Smilee

          joey, there is no mandatory pay raise, shes was talking about ss cola’s, you again show total ignorance

        • Patriot

          If you want to know the truth of who is running or should I say ruining this country do some research on the Bilderberg Group and the Tri-lateral Commission. They are made up of Billionaires from other countries and a few of our own who have secret meetings about how to run or ruin this country. No conspiracy here…check it out!

          • Patriot

            They are the ones who are backing the Federal Reserves, not the government. They are as Federal as Federal Express and they are banking on our problems. Check it out on your own and see what you come up with.

  • EltonJ

    I read an article in the Deseret News that Harry Reid was invited to speak about his conversion to the LDS Church. They had to cancel it because many people in the LDS Church are Republican bordering on Patriot or Libertarian. They promised that they would heckle the Senator as he spoke about his conversion.

    I thought it was pretty sad, actually. Because of a couple of reasons:

    1. It was a religious function not a political one.

    2. Harry Reid’s actions have caught up with him.

    • EltonJ

      Here’s the Article:

      Senate majority leader Harry Reid is a member of the LDS Church in good standing, but some of his fellow Mormons consider him an apostate by virtue of his simply being a Democrat. And Reid’s instrumental support of the health care reform bill has put him further at odds with conservative majority in his church.

      This animosity toward Reid manifested itself in a story that has the Mormon blogosphere—the “bloggernacle”—a buzz. From the Millennial Star:

      [A] Stake Presidency in Nevada invited Harry Reid to speak at a “Why I Believe” fireside (Harry Reid has spoken at other such firesides in other stakes and at other functions). Members of that stake were apparently outraged at the suggestion that a Mormon with a different political viewpoint than their own might bear testimony. A member of the stake described what happened in her personal blog, The Backordered Life.

      Members of her stake apparently threatened to protest with signs and to heckle Harry Reid from the audience (in a fireside about a person’s testimony! — I would guess that these same people are the type who would strongly discourage clapping after a musical number at a fireside).

  • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

    If there are any changes that will be made we must find some qualified canidates. The link associated with my name is an attempt to help find those canidates.

    • JeffH

      Tea Party Tim…a correct and accurate statement…

  • EltonJ

    What is interesting that 40% of the Tea Party Movement is Democrat and Independent (includes Libertarians and true Anarchists). About 13% are Democrats. What we want is reduced deficit spending and tax cuts. This would spur economic growth in our Country and get us through Economic Winter and Spring.

    My Commentary:
    The democrats that have joined the Tea Party Movement realize that their party has lost its way and has gone against its core values. Or, if Glenn Beck is right, the DNC is controlled by Progressive Left Wingers. In either case, the Democratic National Committee is facing a crisis. The next Democratic Convention is going to be interesting as it faces tea partiers from its own party.

    Although, I foresee that the Republican Party may also face the Tea Parties and it too, may suffer a cracking. It was foretold that the Democrat Party and the Republican Party will completely fall and two parties will rise up in their place. Judging by the politics in Washington and by the Tea Party Movement this could very well happen.

    • JeffH

      As I recall, the Tea Party movement started as a bi-partisan movement to carry out a nationwide protest to government on April 15th, 2008.

      There is no Democratic Party or Republican Party assistance. These people contain a diverse and differant group of Americans that believe in conservative politics, not political parties. They may embrace like minded conservative politicians but have no aliances to either party.

      The liberal left movement will always attempt to discredit any threat, as the Coffee Party is doing, to their agendas, no matter haow big or small it might be.

      • http://naver samurai

        Very true Jeff. I joined the TEA PARTY because I also feel that our country has gone too far astray and need to get back to the founding principles of our founding fathers. I’m a historian and have been saying for certain people to really read and understand our founding documents, Common Sense, and the vision, beliefs, etc., of our founding fathers. Like keep God as a part of public life and not being forced back into the church by the liberals, atheists, and the Atheist Communist Loony Liberal Union.

        • JeffH

          samurai , so true. So many still rely on what they hear from the MSM and haven’t a clue about what or who the Tea Party movement is or why it is alive and gaining ground throughout America.

        • JeffH

          those that choose to describe them as a bunch of right wing radical militia gun toting old fat white racists is just utter ignorance talking and so far removed from reality.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff, interesting that you can research but fail to find that the tea Party is funded by republicans. Let me take you down the path that you refused to follow. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party_Movement_funding Notice this shows that they are funded by Americans for Prosperity—-note Koch Industries is involved
        Their directors are James Miller, who was chairman of FTC (repub) and the Budget director to Reagan. Phil Kerpen a writer for Fox Forum and guest with Glenn and a well known repub. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity
        Freedom works, Directors: Dick Armey Jack Kemp, Matt Kibbe all well known repubs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomWorks notice Koch Industries also founded this one.
        MattKibbe well known repub who runs Citizens for Sound Economy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_kibbe notice what organization is involved with this one. Does the word Koch Industries mean anything to you???? You have the nerve to state that it is not republican politics?? Every single director was republican. They were all founded by Koch Industries and you say no republican influence?? YOUR BIAS IS SHOWING. You search out the coffee party and show how the dems are involved but you refuse to acknowledge that the tea party is funded and organized by the repubs??? Either you didn’t do enough research or you are flat out trying to deceive others.

    • Smilee

      THERE IS NO STATISTICS ON THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE TEA PARTY PEOPLE’S PARTY BACKGROUND IS AND YOUR IDIOTIC STATEMENT IS JUST PURE SPECULATION, BUT THE STRONG SUPPORT OF HANNITY AND OTHER RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS STRONGLY SUGGESTS A FAR RIGHT RADICAL AGENDA AND MOST SEEM TO VIEW IT AS SUCH, I SUSPECT THAT IS WHAT IT REALLY IS. YOU STATEMENT IN MY OPTION IS BUT AN ATTEMPT TO VALIDATE THIS MOVEMENT AS MORE CENTRIST TO GIVE IT MORE VALIDITY SO IT WILL NOT BE VIEWED BY THE MAINSTREAM AS RADICAL. IT WILL NOT WORK!!

      • JeffH

        Smilee, you can believe what you read and hear. That’s fine with me. I’ve been there and done that, and you would be amiss for words to experience firsthand that a wonderfull, diverse ethnic group of Americans can have a common ground of principle unlike the corruption you choose to associate with.

        • Smilee

          HOGWASH, THE ONLY THING YOU ARE GOOD AT

        • JeffH

          It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
          Ayn Rand

          • Smilee

            DO YOU EVER READ ANYTHING OTHER THAN ALL THE GARBAGE YOU QUOTE SO OFTEN HERE

          • JeffH

            The purpose of morality is to teach you, not to suffer and die, but to enjoy yourself and live.
            Ayn Rand

          • eyeswideopen

            For anyone who is really interested in Ayn Rand, here are some insightful comments from someone who dealt with her for over 20 years. Have patience and read it to the end. She thought that anyone who didn’t agree with her viewpoints were irrational and evil. She couldn’t entertain the thought that she might not be correct. So, Jeffie, if you are going to keep quoting her maybe a little more research is needed.

          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen

            I did’t spell hazard correctly. Sorry it took three tries.
            http://www.nathanielbranden.com/catalog/articles_essays/benefits_and_hazards.html

          • JeffH

            He who angers you conquers you.
            Elizabeth Kenny

          • libertytrain

            eyes – with your quote: “She thought that anyone who didn’t agree with her viewpoints were irrational and evil. She couldn’t entertain the thought that she might not be correct.”

            you make Ayn come across as some sort of lib democrat – how funny!

          • eyeswideopen

            Liberty, nope she was a Libertarian all the way. You are right those pesky dems actually care about people, like the good Christians are supposed to. Ayn Rand cared about no one but herself.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Smelly,
          Get it straight in your mind BEFORE you post!! Earlier you said Hannity said they were Mcveih wanna be’s now you say Hannity supports them come on guy which is it?!?!?!!?

          • Smilee

            Because hannity repeatably has said so, go sober up joey

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I have an idea that if we vote only for candidates backed by the Tea Party, maybe we can change things. However, this President is the exact replica of a President that I conjured up in the mid-seventies what would need to happen in the world if there could ever come the anti-messiah as described in the Bible. I’m not saying that Obama is the actual anti-messiah, but I know that he is an anti-messiah if he supports the Marx doctrine, which he appears to do! Watch!

  • Norm

    The tea party movement is the best friend the Democrats could hope for. It’s splits normal Republicans(the few that remain) from the gun-toting, paranoid, misinformed, bible quoting right wing nuts.
    Your enemies enemy is your best ally.

    • Barb

      Norm go play with yourself obviously nobody out there is interested in you or your dreams. If I didn’t like you so much I’d feel sorry for you! But I do so I won’t!

    • EltonJ

      Norm, if that is true — then why do we have a coffee party?

      • eyeswideopen

        Elton, do not think that the tea party is not funded by the republicans. Do you know who organized the group originally?? American for Prosperity and Freedom Works. Both of the directors are well known republicans. Do a little research and make the connection.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          hey googleeyes,
          did you ever stop to think that a lot of the TEA Party participants are registered as republicans but are very disillusioned with the party??? They want the republican party to get back to it’s CONSERVATIVE roots??? which is why you SAY you left the republicans, so it seems by your own statements you would Support them!!! More proof to my claim that you never were a Republican??????

          • Smilee

            THEY ARE DELUSIONAL PERIOD, REPUBLICANS HAVE BECOME THAT, I TOO WAS A REPUBLICAN UNTIL I WAS 53, THAT’S HOW I KNOW IT, EYES SEEMS TO HAVE COME TO HER SENSES TOO, THINK THERE IS ANY CHANCE YOU EVER WILL

      • JeffH

        Eyes, your talking out your behind again…show me the money, as they say…!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          she did show you the money, HER 2 CENTS!!! I still say you were overcharged by about 3 CENTS!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Jeff. 21 posts above I gave you the source of the money. Can’t read, or clink on the links??? I gave you organizations who have sponsored the Tea Party movement right from the inception till now. I also gave you the founders of those organizations. What else do you want ? Just open up the links…

    • JeffH

      Normy baby, your Alinsky induced rhetoric is as familiar as Obama’s promises to America. Keep speaking, nobody is listening anymore.

      • Enlightened one

        Jeff…. Nobodys listening?… You fall allover yourself to read and answer everysingle word of truth I post…. I play you like the puppet you are… You have all these ignorant dutiobs to this countrys problems and you keep voting in the same Neo Cons that keep screwing this country … You keep crying about Socialism but everytime we have a so called republican conservative ( fakes) administration we need socialism and more goverment to fix the messes your kind puts this country in… If your going to tell me that the last republican administration left this country in good shape then you just flatout delusional or a terrorist .. It’s clear your an America hater and a goverment hater…. President Obamas spent most of his energy fixing what your people left the country after Bush/ Cheney…if goverment isn’t going to fix the mess you made who is?… It sure as hell won’t to your kind..

        • Enlightened one

          “Typo”…. ” Solutions”….

          • JeffH

            WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

          • Smilee

            NEED A CRYING TOWEL, JEFFIE

        • Meteorlady

          I’m thinking you are the product of public education and a shinning example you are!

        • JeffH

          Oh Big mouth spin doctor, quit whinin, we ain’t listening! Cry, cry, cry…Polly want a cracker?…Obama’s got a flock of fools, not sheeple! WHAAAAAA!

        • http://naver samurai

          How is this heathcare fixing something? Do you know if you opt out of the program you pay $95.00 a month to the government? If you do take the program, you could pay as much as $1200.00 a month out of your check. Bailing out failures and taxing success hasn’t fixed anything either. Cutting spending on our missile defense systems, deriding Israel, and not getting touch on Iran, these don’t sound like fixing anything. When I was in the military for 20 years, I remember one of my officers telling me: “A good leader is compelled to not only know his situation, but to know everything going on around him.” It seems that Osama doesn’t know what the people of this country really want now does it?

          • Smilee

            IF YOU BUY HEALTH INSURANCE THEN NONE OF THIS APPLIES, THE CHOICE IS YOURS. WHY DID YOU NOT MENTION THE GOOD THINGS IN THE HCB, NO TURN DOWN FOR PREXISTING CONDITIONS, NO YEARLY OR LIFETIME MAXIMUMS, NO MORE BANKRUPTCIES FOR MEDICAL COSTS, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS WILL GET ALL THE MONEY NOT BANKRUPTED, AS INCOME AND NOT AS WRITE OFFS AND OF COURSE THEY WILL PAY TAX ON THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF LOSING IT ALL AND DEDUCTING IT FROM THEIR TAXES, NO MORE MEDICARE DOUGHNUT HOLE, MEDICARE PREVENTIVE CARE WHICH ALWAYS LOWERS OVERALL COSTS, LESS EM ROOM VISITS GREATLY LOWERING THOSE COSTS, INSURANCE COMPANIES HAVE TO PAY OUT FOR MEDICAL CLAIMS 80-85% OF PREMIUMS TAKEN IN (MIGHT MAKE IT A LOT HARDER TO RAISE PREMIUMS), 30 MILLION MORE IN THE INSURANCE POOL (THE BIGGER THE POOL THE LOWER THE PREMIUMS, THAT IS ITS HISTORY) CLEANS UP OVERCHARGES BY MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLANS TO THE TUNE OF 500 BILLION OVER TEN YEARS. HOW IS THAT FOR STARTERS, SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR AT LEAST MAKE YOU LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND NOT JUST LOOK FOR THE NEGATIVES AND IGNORE THE POSITIVES

          • http://?? Joe H.

            hey Smelly,
            Yeah no turn down for pre-exhisting conditions…. unless you’re a KID!!!!!

          • Smilee

            JOEY, THAT’S THIS YEAR, EVERYONE BY 2014, I GUESS YOU JUST SHOWED US YOU REALLY DON’T MUCH ABOUT THE NEW LAW DO YOU

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Smelly,
            I don’t care if it was last year, the one thing he preached the most on was that under his plan no one would be turned away for preexhisting conditions and who does he leave out??? The kids for cripes sakes!!! Give me a break!! That would be the one group most people would not mind having to pay a little more for and they leave them out!!! HEARTLESS BASTARDS ALL!!!!

          • Smilee

            mixed up joey, again you make no sense and reveal how ignorant you are

        • dwestall

          Enlightened is delusional! It was the Clinton administration that did away with the banking laws that kept Banks and Brokerage Houses and Insurance firms separate since the Great Depression. That sure made it easy for the formation of corrupt derivatives that know one knew anything about. Shame on the SEC for allowing these things in the first place. How about Barney Frank putting massive pressure on Freddie & Fannie to loosen their loan restrictions; allowing people who had no financial right to buy a house, buy one. There is plenty of blame on both sides. Obama should have broken up the big banks and thrown out the criminals that ran them. Hell, if he can stomp on bondholders rights and give Chrysler and GM to the Unions he can smack down a couple of arrogant bankers! Too many bribes I guess.

          • Smilee

            I AGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT YOU SAY BUT YOU LEAVE OUT IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS THAT PASSED THOSE LAWS, CLINTON COULD NOT HAVE SIGNED THEM IF THEY HAD NOT, ALBEIT HE DID SIGN IT

          • eyeswideopen

            dwestall, you are just proving that you don’t know squatt. Republicans proposed the banking deregulation in 1999, and it was a republican control house and senate in 1999. By the way the other deregulation that cost us over 300billion was during Reagans admin. it was the Savings and Loan debacle. But repubs continue to want no controls on the fiscal institutions and this is what we have received, another crashed economy. Thank you so much. We all appreciate your party for thinking that the fox wouldn’t really raid the chicken coop. That he would control himself and wouldn’t be greedy and kill all the chickens. lol

        • Smilee

          WOW!!!! RIGHT ON!!!! AND YOU REDUCED JEFFIE TO TEARS, HE WAS LOST FOR WORDS, EVEN HIS IDIOTIC ONES SO COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH ALL HIS POSTS. IT’S A GREAT DAY, ENJOY YOURSELF JEFFIE.

          • JeffH

            Polly want a cracker, Polly want a cracker…baaaraaaccckkk…Polly want a cracker? baaaraaaaacccckkkkk

          • Claire

            Jeff H– Baaarrraaaccckkkkk – Clever.

          • Fed Up Gal

            Smilee,

            Hmmmmmmm…..I think Jeff’s tears were likely tears of laughter, watching you attempt to make sense in your posts.

            Fed Up Gal

          • JeffH

            I just can’t quit laughing, it’s so stinkin’ easy and rediculous at the same time.

    • Enlightened one

      Norm… Very good post… Very accurate

      • JeffH

        Hey Big mouth spin doctor, are you a card carrying Soros funded member of the Coffee Party down in Florida?

        • Smilee

          SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, SOROS, I’LL BET YOU DREAM ABOUT HIM NIGHTLY AND MAYBE EVEN DAYDREAMS, YOU SURE ARE OBSESSED WITH HIM, COULD IT BE YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF HIM????

          • JeffH

            Not at all. I just know what you refuse to acknowledge, who’s using you for personal gain and to support his own version of the anti-American gospel. You’re just expendable members of his flock.

          • Smilee

            OH JEFFIE, YOU ARE SO DELUSIONAL

          • JeffH

            Happiness is that state of consciousness which proceeds from the achievement of one’s values.
            Ayn Rand

          • Smilee

            STILL MORE GARBAGE, GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT

          • JeffH

            The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap.
            Ayn Rand

        • eyeswideopen

          Sheldon Adelson, sheldon adelson, sheldon adelson, Koch Ind. Koch, Ind. Koch, Ind. Koch, Ind. THE REPUB/CONSERVATIVE MONEY MACHINES!!!!! Run for your lives. Koch has been trying to subvert politics to make them even richer for over 30 years. John Birchers know all about them, and they are back.

          • JeffH

            Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

  • Enlightened one

    In 1981 President Reagan gave his tax cuts to the rich and unemployment shot up to 10.2 % and it wasn’t until his 3rd year as president that unemployment started going down …so my point is President Obama is far ahead of where president Reagan had this country….I know you rightys love Reagan … Reagan lost millions of jobs while he was president…and the economic situation that president Obama had to deal with was the worst recession since the great depression… You should be thanking President Obama for the great job is doing …. The economy is beginning to turnaround after the republicans destroyed our economy ..

    • JeffH

      Big mouth spin doctor spews the bile again…

      • Norm

        JeffH
        Sometimes truth is a bitter pill.

        • JeffH

          Kind of hard for someone to embrace truth when they constantly lie.
          Normy, “Look in the mirror and what do you see, another liar staring back at me.”

          • Norm

            JeffH
            Only if you were looking over my shoulder.

          • JeffH

            Impossible Normy baby, I wouldn’t know where to look for ya. Your mirror baby!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH
            You got em on the run!!! He’s stealing my words to work on you now!!!

      • Smilee

        RUNNING OUT OF REAL WORDS, ARE YOU JEFFIE???

        • JeffH

          Bringing in the sheeple, bringing in the sheeple, we will all be rejoicing bringing in you sheeple…

          • Fed Up Gal

            JeffH,

            Heeeeeeeeeee Heeeeeeeeee!!! LoL!!! You are killin’ me!

            Fed Up Gal

          • JeffH

            Fed up, you gotta have a sense of humor, otherwise you end up like Smilee, dead in the head so to speak.

          • Fed Up Gal

            JeffH,

            Unbelievable! She just keeps laying on the railroad road tracks and can’t hear the WoooooooooooooooWooooooooooooo……(credit to: Everybody Loves Raymond episode where Debra was trying to explain something to Raymond’s mother)………LoL Funny.

            Fed Up Gal

    • Meteorlady

      Oh my – NAFTA, FREE TRADE WITH CHINA, a few other Clinton goodies resulting in hugh job losses. Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act letting banks out from under control instituted after the Depression and allowing drug companies to advertise their poisons to the tune of $35 million per year or more were really good things that Clinton did right?

      Ah – lest you try the Clinton left Bush with a balanced budget – you need to go to the US Treasure sight and track the deficit. You will find that Clinton did not leave Bush with a balanced budget – he left him with a deficit of around $17 billion the year he left office and a budget for the first year Bush was in office of around $133 Billion. the reason it got so low is that Clinton had help from the Federal Reserve who devalued our dollar just a tad to make it not look so bad.

      Jimmy Carter was another really good Democratic socialist president. We had 22% interest rates, unemployment, bad foreign policy and a plethora of liberal programs.

      • Smilee

        A BALANCED BUDGET DOES NOT ELIMINATE YOUR DEBTS, BUT IT DOES NOT LET THE DEBT GET BIGGER, AND THAT IS WHAT BUSH INHERITED AND HE SCRAPPED THAT IDEA THAT HIS PARTY AND CLINTON HAD PUT INTO LAW, WENT ON A WILD SPENDING SPREE AND BORROWING THE MONEY TO FUND IT AND EIGHT YEARS LATER LOOK AT THE MESS HE LEFT, I’M A SENIOR CITIZEN AND I CAN NEVER REMEMBER A BIG MESS LIKE THAT AND THAT IS WHAT BUSH GAVE THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND THE IDIOTS ON THIS BOARD SEEM TO THINK OBAMA CAN SNAP HIS FINGERS AND CORRECT EVERYTHING THAT FAST AND WHEN HE CANNOT ACCOMPLISH THIS IMPOSSIBLE DEMAND OF THEIRS THEY WANT TO BELIEVE HE IS DESTROYING EVERYTHING. STICK AROUND SISTER MANY HERE WILL BE EATING THESE WORDS IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT HE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHES. IT COULD BE GREAT!!

    • Meteorlady

      Another small point. Reagan left office as the first president since Harry Truman to leave with both lower unemployment and inflations rates. Unemployment dropped from 7.6% in 1981 to 5.5% in 1988 and the consumer price inflation from 10.3% to 4.4%, Those are FACTS so you might read up before throwing out statics on this sight. There really are some thinking honest people here who post.

      • Smilee

        HE ALSO LEFT BUSH 41 THE SAVINGS AND LOAN DEBACLE AND A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF DEBT AND A MUCH REDUCED MIDDLE CLASS, HE WAS THE SEED OF WHAT MATURED BY THE END OF BUSH 43 ADMINISTRATION. HE PUT IN PLACE THE REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH THAT SHIFTED THE WEALTH FROM WHAT WAS THEN 1% OF THE NATIONS WEALTH DISTRIBUTED AMONGST 22% OF THE POPULATION TO THE END OF BUSH 43 WHEN IT WAS SPREAD AMONGST THE TOP 5% OF THE POPULATION. REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH BEGAN WITH REAGAN AND BECAUSE OF IT WE HAVE A LOT LARGER POVERTY POPULATION AND A LOT MORE WELFARE BECAUSE OF IT WHILE THE LARGE CORPORATIONS FOUND IT ADVANTAGES TO REDUCE WAGES TO A LEVEL THAT MANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES NOW CAN GET BENEFITS FROM WELFARE AND EARNED INCOME CREDITS WHICH IN EFFECT SUBSIDIZES THE EMPLOYER’S WAGE AND BENEFIT PACKAGES ALLOWING THE SHIFT OF WEALTH TO THE TOP FIVE PERCENT. THAT IS THE REPUBLICAN LEGACY OF THE LAST THIRTY YEARS AND OUR DILEMMA TODAY, OBAMA WORKING HARD TO CHANGE THAT, WILL HE SUCCEED??? WE BETTER HOPE SO!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Eo, you forgot to state that Reagan had to also make a huge increase only one year after his cuts. He also screwed middle class by the way he changed the tax code. Middle class ended up paying even more.

  • http://yahoo.com Jimmy

    ITS TIME THAT ALL THE HARD WORKING/CHRISTIANS PEOPLE DEMANDS THAT AMERICA RETURNS TO THE PRINCIPALS, IT WAS FOUNDED ON. WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF ACCEPTING ANYTHING THAT POLITICIANS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS DISH OUT. WE DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT AND ITS PASS TIME TO TAKE ACTION. FIRST THING IS TO CLEAN WASHINGTON OUT WITH LEADERS THAT WILL LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. THE NATIONAL POLITICAL PARTIES NEED TO MAKE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITIZENS THAT WILL KEEP THIS NATION STRONG,FREE AND INDEPENDANT. ANY POLITICIAN THAT DOES NOT HONOR THIS CONTRACT WITH THE PEOPLE, IS TO HAVE A FAIR HEARING AND IF FOUND GUILTY OF VIOLATING THE CONTRACT,BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY FROM THAT POSITION.

  • Enlightened one

    Jimmy… The rightwing tried that” contract on America ” nonsense already…. And the republicans and conservatives broke the contract just like they always do…

    • JeffH

      Big mouth spin doctor rhetoric!

      • Smilee

        DUMBER THAN DUMB IS AT IT AGAIN

        • JeffH

          When man learns to understand and control his own behavior as well as he is learning to understand and control the behavior of crop plants and domestic animals, he may be justified in believing that he has become civilized.
          Ayn Rand

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff what happened to not calling people names like Bob Livingston requested? You are not only being disprectful to commentators, but to Bob’s rules for this site. Please show a little more self control.

      • JeffH

        Big mouth spin doctor, are you surrendering? Asking for a truce? We’ve tried that before and you’ve proven yourself untrustworty.
        Don’t ask and I won’t tell!
        I guess you only want to follow the rules when they fit your needs.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jeff, after you called me a bitch and told me to bite you, I couldn’t stop laughing. It doesn’t bother me, but it is disrespectful to others. I am not a sissy who get’s her feeling hurt, afer all I carry a gun and raised a son who had to be taught to think about other peoples feelings, and be respectful or get his butt whipped, so I am battle hardend but I know that other people do deserve the rules to be observed.

  • charlie

    It’s pretty squirrely now. (no disrespect to the squirrels). every 10 years the government goes in different directions. suggest
    1. investigate obamas background after November 2010!
    2. after November 2010 impeach obama. Some democrats who have been pressured into voting his way or the highway may join as revenge.
    3. try obama, pelosi and reid for treason. Any question about their not supporting the constitution and going around it whenever possible?
    4. break up the party system in congress. No minority or majority party labels or functions. change method of committee assignment. Minority/independent should be chair of committees, not the majority. there is too much steamrollering in congress.
    seating for congress to be alphabetical by state rather than party. (promotes talking rather than browbeating. )
    5. repeal reconciliation, it is unconstitutional. the constitution is not to make things easier in congress, it is to protect the people.
    6. repeal 17th amendment. re-establish states rights,
    7. congressional ethics committees to be abolished, independent counsel/ prosecution to be arranged.
    8. Congressional ethics amendment to be done. this includes making congress subject to the same laws they pass just like citizens.
    9. repeal congressional perks. make it illegal for congress to set any perks for themselves. suggest state governments vote on this.

    i don’t see this as republican or democratic. i see this as necessary for the citizens to re establish control of government.

    charlie

    • Enlightened one

      Charlie…. I hope your aware the the republicans use reconsiliation hundreds of times… I’m not saying the republicans used it a few times , I’m saying hundreds .. Search it… You tea baggers should make youyr minds up about the constitution.. I always hear you rightys say” we need to follow the constitution like our founders… Then things don’t go your way and you want to change it… Which is it…?

      • JeffH

        Again, another that sounds remarkably like the blind “eye with the big mouth spin”. You can only fool a fool with your tomfoolery!

        • Norm

          JeffH
          Try substance over insult in your comments.

          • JeffH

            Norm, you certainly are one that has the right to make a comment like this. Never seen you try to belittle anybody by calling them names. Never seen you post anything that wasn’t spot on. Right! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Never a murmer of hypocrisy passes your outright honest lips. NOT! Most everything you comment on is limited to one small sentance.

      • Meteorlady

        Again facts. Republican and Democrats have used it. It is meant to budget items and it was mostly used for that. NO MAJOR bill the scope of the Health Care bill has ever been passed in this manner. Pelosi wouldn’t even allow them to break because she didn’t want the to go home and hear from their constituents. The entire process was disrespectful to the people of this country because their elected representatives did not get a chance to vote again on the bill. It was politics at it’s sleaziest and you wonder what the Tea Party or the Libertarians have to offer the American people? Maybe some ethics in government and some respect for the Constitution.

        • Smilee

          COME ON SISTER, LET’S TELL IT LIKE IT IS, THE RECONCILIATION BILL WAS ONLY ABOUT BUDGET ITEMS, ALL THE POLICY CHANGES WERE IN THE BILL PASSED IN DEC 2009 BY SENATE AND IN MARCH 2010 BY THE HOUSE. NOTHING WAS AGAINST EXISTING RULES USED BY BOTH PARTIES IN THE PAST AND EVERYTHING WAS PERFECTLY LEGAL. YOU SOUND LIKE A SORE LOSER WHOM WANTS US TO BELIEVE SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

    • Smilee

      YOUR QUITE THE DREAMER THERE CHARLIE, BUT ITS ONLY A DREAM!!!

  • Enlightened one

    Lmaooo… So giving more Americans access to healthcare makes president Obama the Anti Christ….?… You rightwing religious nutcases are riot…and you wonder why nobody takes you serious ….?

  • Enlightened one

    What would you impeach president Obama for?.. Trying to bring back the economy that the republicans destroyed?.. If you rightwing goofballs didn’t impeach Bush for his crimes how could you even attempt to impeach president Obama ?.. Would the charge be.. Giving mire Americans access to healthcare.. A promise he ran for president on?.. And won the election?….you tea baggers just keep proving how ignorant you really are….I do agree with Sean Hannity on One issue… You Baggers are just Timothy McVeigh wanna be’s … But a lot more ignorant than McVeigh..

    • Meteorlady

      What educational plateau did you get to? Because I’m not seeing much intelligence coming from you at all.

      • Smilee

        AT LEAST SHE DOES NOT LIE, AS YOU JUST DID ABOVE

        • JeffH

          Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.
          Ayn Rand

          • Smilee

            WHEN WILL YOU RUN OUT OF GARBAGE JEFFIE

          • JeffH

            People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don’t sit looking at it – walk.
            Ayn Rand

          • eyeswideopen

            Someone who disputes Ayn’s reasoning. Someone who knew and studied with her for over 20 years and then split with her due to recongnizing her fobles, and errors. http://www.nathanielbranden/com/catalog/articles_essays/benefits_and_hazards.html

          • eyeswideopen

            I posted this site earlier above this one and it works. Some reason a block is stopping this one. Sorry.

          • libertytrain

            eyes – while hazard was correct this time through, somehow you have com in it twice so it won’t work. I just copy and paste my links and they usually work – for some reason you have frequent problems with yours – no blocks on it just the wrong link info.

          • eyeswideopen

            Liberty, thanks for taking time to explain. I have never copied and pasted. Until this site, I have never needed too. I only use computer for for business correspondance and the such. Guess I need some instruction on copying and pasting. I hate getting older and not knowing the high tech stuff.

  • BigIron

    I think that, instead of adding “more” amendments to our Constitution, we should seriously consider “repealing” all those Amendments after the 10th. From there it seems to get really muddled (intentionally, I believe) by those seeking to gain more control by the Federal government over the people and the States for their own onerous ends. Look at the language in many of those amendments after the 10th giving Congress the authority to write laws to enforce those Amendments (FORCE those policies upon the States and the people against their will). The one exception might be the “original” 13th Amendment concerning “…titles …” which I leave for your investigation. Amendments should be short, to the point, clear, concise, and written for the people, not for a bevy of lawyers to corrupt as is the current state. Our Founders understood this well.

    The Democrat and Republican parties are NOT parties “of the people” because “the people”, for decades, have, for the most part, remained unengaged in the political process. The “Tea Party” movement (not a particular group) represents the re-engagement of the “people” in the process of their governance; this is what the powers behind the Democrats and Republicans and our government fear most (and “proper” government SHOULD ALWAYS “fear” the people when they abrogate or exceed their delegated authority).

    The Republican party offers the best chance for the immediate change which we need because they are in a “disastrous” state … but they do have already in place most of the needed structure to generate real change from the local to the national levels. The lack of this structure is one of the reasons why 3rd parties fail; it takes years, maybe decades, to develop properly.

    See “National Precinct Alliance”; “National Precinct Activists”; and other precinct-based political strategy groups for how to change a party (in this case, the Republican) from the “ground up” (real grass-roots) in 2010, 2011 and 2012. It’s time for the people to act and the time to start is NOW!

    Our much needed 3rd party is already here … It’s called the Republican party … and it’s waiting for you to make (or remake) it the party of the people … and to use it to restore our Republic and our prosperity.

  • BigIron

    All “taxation” is theft. Actually, it is “strong-arm” robbery because if you don’t give them “your purse (the fruits of your labor)” you will have it taken away by force or you will be harmed just as if they held a gun to your head. At least the robber on the street is hones about taking what is yours.

    When others find that they can use the government as a surrogate to rob you of your money for them (because they are too cowardly to steal for themselves) they say to the government GIMME. It so easy and safe that they say GIMME more, … and more, … and more. They don’t want the “fruits of their labor” which should be theirs by “natural” right; they want the “fruits of your labor” which should be yours by “natural” right.

    Those in the government and the lawmakers love this arrangement since they know that the GIMMEs have “sold their souls to the devil” to get other people “fruits” and therefore are beholden to the lawmakers and the government for their prosperity by having the government steal the “fruits of the labor (prosperity)” of those who actually create the wealth.

    This is “gangsterism” raised to a new level of existence. The lawmakers and the government buys votes and support from the GIMMEs by giving the “fruits of my labor” to those GIMMEs but, also, keeping some of it for themselves (why not … they deserve it; “strong-arm” robbery is hard work but they have managed to make it safe).

    I strongly suspect that “Enlightened one” is a GIMME.

    • JeffH

      BigIron
      Your suspicions are bonefied and not without merit as you are not alone with those thoughts.

    • Enlightened one

      Bigiron… All taxation is theft ?… That’s about as foolish a statement as a fool could make… Without some taxation their can be no goverment at all, no partys at all , no streetlights, no highways… Nothing … You couldn’t even have civilization without taxation… How about church… ? Don’t you Christians tithe?… If you give to jesus isn’t that a tax so your church can function?… You can’t even have a functional tea bagger party without somekind of taxation or donation….. Your picture should be right next to dumb in the dictionary… Your post is just more proof that your kind would make this a third world country…

      • JeffH

        Wow! With that rant we see who and what the ” Enlightened one” really is. A verified idiot and the epitome of dumb and dumberer or stupid is as stupid does. Keep those cards and letters coming in and remember the term “teabagger” is a political epithet, nothing more than an insult, used by critics of the American Tea Party movement.

        • Smilee

          AND SO DAM MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU JEFFIE, OF COURSE YOUR SO DUMB YOU CAN NOT SEE THAT TRUTH!!

          • JeffH

            Smilee, kepp on tryin’, ’cause I ain’t buyin’, into your totally meaningless, unsubstantiated dribble.

          • Smilee

            YOU SURE KEEP ANSWERING EVERY POST OF MINE DON’T YOU, JEFFIE, AH JUST CAN’T HELP YOURSELF CAN YOU

          • JeffH

            Dummy, why not, I’ve got the time to do it. Besides, it provides me with a soothing therapeutic form of entertainment when I’m bored.
            Why are you always yelling?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            He’s always yellin’ cause he’s always pizzed!!!!! He can’t fight logic!!!

      • stephen russell

        Dump the estd DC Party Rule & toss in some Tea Party for office.
        Imagine the Tea Party takes over the RNC?
        & rename the Tea Party Movement these:L

        The Eagle Party
        The Concord Party.
        New America Party
        America 2 Party

        All we need now is some rep for Fox News for Guest commenting on issues etc.
        Full time Rep at Fox NYC Hqs.
        Wow.

        Remake the USA Today

    • eyeswideopen

      Biglron, no a gimmie are the guys who are in the Hutree militia, who wanted to bomb the government, are now requesting government supplied defense attorneys. They don’t like government until they need the government…kinda ironic don’t you think?? LMAO

      So, you don’t want to pay any taxes? Who do you want to protect us from the terrorists??? The wanna bee militia’s who are so stealthy that they got caught??? lol

  • JeffH

    Enlightened one, your light is out, tired, finished, kapeesh, worn out, kaput, nada! Every one is as wise to the Enlightened one as we are to the Coffee Party and the O’man. I think they have run out of new lies so they continue to recycle the old ones.

  • Merl Elton

    Conservatives must find quality candidates that hold true conservative values like personal responsibility and freedom, individual rights, fiscal responsibility and restoring strength and soverignity to the US by providing jobs and bringing back fair trade policies that have been elminiated by liberal progressive policies of both parties for their own political and economic gain. Unfortunately, we are in the stunning the sheep phase right now. Socialists and liberals are telling us that change is inevitable; and we must accept the changes for our own good; and they know better than we do; this is what all fascists do before the slaughter.

  • Enlightened one

    Jeff.. The tea baggers are just loud ignorant people…even Sarah Palin charged you tea baggers 150,000 for a 1/2 hour speech that was the same old drivel she tried during the presidential campaign… Your whole message is the same old nonsense as always…you baggers are nothing more than lower case republicans… This countrys never returning to the 1950′s no matter who tells you it can… It’s an impossibility…the fact is that you republicans just parrott the same crap then when the country makes the mistake of electing a so called conservative you go right back to destroying the economy…. The people you listen to use you because they’re just greedy money worshiping thiefs… The Becks, limbaughs, Hannitys the republican party leaders … All of them tell you the samething.. They use you because they can… Do you think Hannity and Rush want to pay taxes?… No!.. They would rather you pay them… So they use you and like sheep you follow

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      In case you didn’t see this above: My Dear “Alpha Hotel”, (If you don’t know what that stands for in the military, ask your mother. She’s the one that wears combat boots in your family. Right?) Any way, “My Dear Horatio”, The term of dis-endearment used by so many of the oh so tolerant progressives – “Tea bag, Teabaggers, Baggers”, et al, is defined as: “An act of oral gratification performed on the male testicles”. How sweet of them to try and lump us in with Barney Frank. And they wonder why we seem just a tad less than civil towards them. I do wonder, what would Freud say? Eh? My little baguette? [No offense to the Hospitality Industry expressed nor implied.] Question: What do Barack Obama and Tiger Woods have in common, and why is it so different? Answer: Tiger Woods calls himself a “Cablasian”, and BrObama is a “Cablafrican”.
      Here’s just one of the little insights Mrs. Palin had: “You’ll get all the health care you ‘need’ “. So sayeth The One, during one of his presidential campaign’s Q & A’s. (Later, a “Panel of Experts” was found in the then proposed legislation, now law, that would determine the value of healthcare to the state verses the individual, with criterion weighted heavily, of course, in the state’s favor. And NY Times columnist, Paul Krugman, just came out in favor of the provision. This is after he vehemently denied its existence and derided Sarah Palin unmercifully before it was passed.) Oh that silly Sarah. “Death Panels”? “You Betcha”.

    • JeffH

      Eyes, the bigmouth spin doctor has spoken again and no one is listening. Drop the charades, you know I’m not nor ever have been a Republican and you just can’t stand the fact that you and your socialist, anti-American traitors are being exposed for exactly what you and your messiah are.
      Know, you have stolen my line, “The people you listen to “use you”… because they’re just greedy money worshiping thiefs”.
      Soros and Co. are using Obama who is using you unhappy, hatefull and disgruntled 60′s radicles to deliver their message of “distribution of wealth”.
      Well guess what, as you see from time to time, I’m helping to get the message out on the little liberl wacko heroes your paying for the honor to serve them. We are all getting wiser by the day, and thanks to you and your liberal ranting buddies promoting your degradation of American patriots, racism and violence daily through the Soros’ bought and paid for media outlets and through the free speech conservative blogs. You could care less about the political structure in America as long as it’s a socialist one.
      Go back to your spot at the trough and get another mouthful of that free portion of socialism. It fits you well.
      Nobody is buying into your crap anymore.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff, I wish I could take credit for E O, but it is not me. But as usual, you people try to smear and besmirch anything that you can’t refute. I think EO is doing a much better job than I have. I only give you sites to prove you are wrong, he is much better writer than I am.

        • JeffH

          You’re right about EO doing a much better job than you. My God, girlie, a slug could do a better job than you!

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, as a “slug” I must say, You have this condenscending attitude while you take SS disability payments and rail against others who also need social programs to assist them. What makes you think you are better than them? What makes you able to take government assistance and not acknowledge that it is socialized government care? My neighbor who was a welder for 37 years, has gotten COPD from breathing the fumes and is disabled. He doesn’t qualify for SS Disability for two more years, is losing his home, and has medical bills in the amount of 50K. His insurance was canceled when he lost his job. He worked and saved his money for retirement, almost had his home paid for, paid in a large amount of taxes, and due to something beyond his control now has nothing. Bad things happen to good hard working people. He was unlucky, because he didn’t happen to be the same age as you and didn’t immediately qualify for disability. So, count your self lucky as you are getting assistance and thank the Lord that you happened to be the right age when misfortune hit you.

          • JeffH

            Just an FYI, age has no bearing on SS disability! Get you facts straight!

          • JeffH

            Oh, sorry about your neighbor!

          • JeffH
    • Meteorlady

      Name a government social program that is still within original budget estimates and is not bankrupt? Has the War on Poverty worked – no – there are 20% more people per capita at the poverty level than when we started it. Does the post office work? How about Amtrak – well, the Department of Energy (they were created to give us independence from foreign oil) is their budget still working? And what about Medicare, Medicaid and VA – are those well run, well thought out government programs. Have they stayed within the original budget estimates? How about the War on Drugs?

      Rail all you want about the Tea Party, I think they really irritate you, but I can tell you that most of middle America is sick to death of paying for crap government programs. I just loved seeing all the New Orleans people raping and robbing in the Super Dome while they trashed it. I loved seeing all the people that refused to leave the waiting to be rescued. Those were the people that were getting the money that I work for and I resent it. I want to be free to give to the charity of my choice, not the government.

      • Smilee

        TWO THINGS SISTER, THE WAR ON POVERTY WORKED TO START WITH AND THEN CORPORATIONS HIT UPON THE IDEA IF WE REDUCE WAGES OUR EMPLOYEES WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR WELFARE BENEFIT SO BY REDUCING OUR WAGES WE CAN THEN FORCE PEOPLE TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR INCOMES WITH WELFARE. FACTS SHOW BUYING POWER FROM TODAY’S WAGES SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED SINCE 1980 AND WHEN THIS OCCURRED THE LOBBYISTS FOR CORPORATIONS GOT THEIR REPUBLICAN BUDDIES WITH SOME HELP FROM DEMOCRATS TO ADD EVEN MORE WELFARE PROGRAMS, ONE EXAMPLE THE EARNED INCOME CREDIT WHICH IS FOR LOW INCOME WAGE EARNERS. A GENERATION AGO WAGES WERE HIGH ENOUGH SO IF THAT WAS STILL THE CASE NO ONE WOULD NEED OR BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS WELFARE PROGRAM. YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WAR ON POVERTY. CORPORATIONS THROUGH YOUR REPRESENTATIVES USED THEM TO CONVERT THE WAR ON POVERTY TO A WAGE AND BENEFIT SUBSIDY FOR CORPORATIONS. SECOND MOST OF THE PROGRAMS RUNNING IN THE THE GOVERNMENT WERE UNDERFUNDED MOSTLY BY REPUBLICANS WANTING TO GET RID OF THESE PROGRAMS BY BANKRUPTING THEM SO THEY CAN SAY THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT RUN ANYTHING, THIS IS BY DESIGN BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET ENOUGH VOTES TO ELIMINATE THEM. THIS IS ALSO A LOT THE REASON FOR SS AND MEDICARE’S PROBLEMS, BUSH TRIED TO GET SS LAWS CHANGED THAT WOULD HAVE TOTALLY DESTROYED SS BUT NOT EVEN HIS REPUBLICAN BUDDIES DARED TO DO THAT AS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE FOR THEM. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT, IF WE BELIEVE GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM IT IS THE SAME AS SAYING WE ARE THE PROBLEM AND THE MAJORITY OF POSTERS ON HERE ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AS THEY WANT TO DESTROY GOVERNMENT NOT DEVELOP GOOD GOVERNANCE AGAIN AS THEY HATE GOVERNMENT AND FAIL TO REALIZE THAT IF YOU HATE GOVERNMENT YOU HATE YOURSELF AND THUS EVENTUALLY DESTROY BOTH.

        • JeffH

          Your liberal use of the word “hate” coincides with your overall mentality, just a hate mentality. I seldom, if ever, hear a conservative use the word “hate”. It must be a very big part of yours’ and most liberal’s vocabulary. Sad to say!

          • Smilee

            NO JEFFIE IT DESCRIBES YOU, YOU MUST BE IN DENIAL IF YOU CANNOT SEE AND HEAR THE HATE CONTINUALLY SPEWED OUT BY CONSERVATIVES, YOU NOT ONLY HAVE TROUBLE WITH YOUR HEARING YOU DO NOT SEE VERY WELL EITHER

          • JeffH

            Unlike yourself, I don’t turn a blind eye to the truth. The truth shall set you free, if you can embrace the truth.

          • JeffH

            …isn’t denile the longest flowing river in Africa?

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, you don’t have to use a simple word like that as you have think tanks that come out with new useages for words and phrases. The best new Conservative words can be found at this site. Enjoy. You are so simple as to think that the conservatives are not organized for years and are just as bad as the repubs and dems. You need to expose yourself to more information. http://conservapedia.com/Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Words

          • JeffH

            Hey dummy,

            If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.
            Noam Chomsky

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Hey JeffH,
            Eyes should look at the disclaimer at the bottom of the page of ABOUT. Makes no claims of validity of site!!!!

  • Peggy

    The Democrat’s best chance to win in Nov and 2012 is for us to form a third party!!!!

    THIRD PARTY = DEMOCRATIC WIN

    Our best chance to turn things around is to elect conservative delegates to vote for conservative Republicans.

    Who didn’t vote for the HC bill, the stimulus? The Republicans! We can work with them but we can’t work with the Democrats, not even the so-called “blue dogs”. And we can’t win with a third party!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Peggy, so you didn’t want to help the middle class Americans??? At least you are honest about where your loyalty lies. You are pro-corporations and they are what got us to this situation. But why are the conservatives taking credit when the stimulus monies created jobs and kept people working? Little hypocritical don’t you think?

  • Enlightened one

    Who are the tea Baggers?… Just a bunch of malcontents that can’t stand the thought of a black president … Period.. You can’t even name who leads your party… All I see on the news reports on the tea bagger ralleys are a bunch of old white men that all look like Larry the Cable guy and old fat women that look like Ernest Borgnine…and they want to play with guns and pretend to be cowboys…

    • Palin12

      Wrong again Unenlightened one! I was at the Tea Party in Searchlight and took about 65 photos. The crowd consisted not only of whites, but also blacks, Hispanics, and Filapinos and all ages from 30s to 70s, and a majority of women. The only violence that took place was some pro-Reid supporters throwing eggs at the Tea Party bus. I’ll be happy to share any of my photos online…(looking into an easy way right now). The photos will show peaceful attendees to protest obamacare. You are getting regurgitated false news from the MSM!

      • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

        Ms. Palin 12, I would suggest going to Tom Sullivan’s website and look at the Tea Party Movements photographs there. You may post your own if you so wish. He’s a radio talk show host who was local at KFBK am (just like Rush) who went national with his radio show and also a Fox Business Channel business talk show as well.

        • JeffH

          Myron, I think this is the one you want…
          http://www.sullivanspeaks.com/

        • Palin12

          Thanks Myron, I’m looking at his home page now, but I don’t see the photos. Anyway, I’ve bookmarked him. Also thinking about Flikr.

          • Palin12

            BTW, sorry for any confusion, I am male.

      • JeffH

        Palin12, best to inore this rhetorical “Enlightened one”.
        It is the one and only Big mouth spin doctor aka eyeswideopen.

        • JeffH

          Even if it is not “eyes”, I pity that fool that even comes close to that looneytoon.

      • eyeswideopen

        Palin, prove it, post them.!!!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          goofyeyes,
          Look at your own site you posted the other nite!!!! It shows Blacks, whites, Orientals, even some people that looked to be of Middle Eastern decent!!!! Do you even look at what you post?????

    • Meteorlady

      Gads race again. Yawning here…………………….

    • Claire

      Just think–there wouldn’t be any tea parties if our government were on the “up and up” with the American people. Need I say more? Since I plan on going to a tea party, be assured I do not look like Ernest Borgnine. Try Briget Bardot. BTW, do not judge others unless you walk on water, and have been on the cover of Playgirl.

      • Claire

        This was for “Enlightened One.”

      • Palin12

        Hey Claire….you know the saying “a picture says a 1000 words”? I’m looking at a random picture I took at the Tea Party, and I see 2 females in their 30s, 1 male in his 40s, and 1 female in her 70s. I was thinking about putting a caption under it that says “the mostly 70 year old white males at the tea party”. This gets more hilarious by the day :-)

        • Palin12

          ….and here’s another photo of an African-American guy in the audience clapping for Sarah Palin!

        • Smilee

          THAT WAS TRUE BEFORE PHOTOSHOP, TODAY MOST PICTURES ARE DOCTORED TO TELL A 1000 LIES

          • Palin12

            Wrong again! I took these photos myself.

          • JeffH

            Smilee, paranoia sets in. Conspiracy theories adorn you, the one that isn’t afraid to accuse others of being paranoid or idiotic conspiracy theorists. Just another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

          • Smilee

            Palin12 says:
            April 6, 2010 at 10:44 am

            i DID NOT ACCUSE OF NOT TAKING THEM. I’M SURE YOU DID, HOW CAN I BE SURE YOU DID NOT PHOTOSHOP THME BEFORE YOU POSTED THEM

            OH AN JEFFIE, HAVEN’T YOU SEEN THE NUDE PICS OF SARAH PALIN, I’M SURE THEY ARE NOT REAL, EITHER WAY THOUGH THEY ARE VERY SHARP AND PROBABLY REVEALS THE BEST IN HER, BUT I SUSPECT THE BODY ATTACHED TO HER HEAD IS AS PHONY AS SHE IS AND AS PHONY AS THESE AS WELL, ITS SO EASY DO THESE DAYS ONE CAN NO LONGER BELIEVE PICTURES

          • JeffH

            Smilee, a clear case of “paranoia mind destroya”.

          • Palin12

            Smelly, they were uploaded to Flickr the same day I took them 3/27/2010. Photos uploaded to Flickr contain meta data such as time and date taken, what kind of camera, what exposure, etc. But thanks for the complement that I could Photoshop them the same day as the event. Just think, drive all the way to Searchlight in bumper to bumper traffic, spend a couple hours at the Tea Party, drive all the way back home, and then Photoshop each picture one-by-one and then upload them all in one day. Nice dream pal, maybe National Geographic will hire me as a photographer.

          • JeffH

            Smilee, can’t you realize that you have reduced yourself to scream and shout ridiculous liberal rants. Calm down before you have a “fit”!

          • Smilee

            JEFFIE YOU DISAPPOINT ME, I THOUGHT FOR SURE YOU WOULD GO SEARCHING FOR THOSE PICTURES OF SARAH PALIN, IF YOU CAN’T FIND THEM AND ASK REALLY REALLY NICE I MIGHT TELL WHICH SITE YOU CAN FIND THEM ON

          • JeffH

            Oh Smilee dear Smilee, I never even gave it a second thought. Again the joke IS you, not on you! HAH!

          • Smilee

            LOST YOU LIBIDO JEFFIE, THEY EVEN TURN US LIBS ON, MAKES US FORGET SHE GOOFY CONSERVATIVE FOR A LITTLE WHILE

          • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

            Eyeswideopen: There you go again. You are unable to say anything without throwing out comments you have no idea whether they are true or not.

            I am Independent; do not listen or watch the wacko’s on the right or left as you must do to come up with information that you spew and you obviously acknowledge only the liberal points of view and hate anyone who is a conservative. I am one. Get over it.

            Try reading a person’ comments for a change. You weren’t able to decipher I was talking about Health Care Reform as being an abomination and I did say both sides were guilty or partaking in the Stimulus Bill.

            Are you aware of Planned Parenthood? Did you know that Karen Sebulius made sure that millions of dollars were directed to Planned Parenthood in the Health Care Reform Bill? Did you know there is a very large hospital in Texas where abortions will be done under the guidance of Planned Parenthood? The bill also contains a provision that at least one Health Care Insurance Company provide the option for buying abortion coverage. This information came from SBA List, and American’s United for Life (AUL). AUL even read the entire bill after the revisions and met personally with the President’s staff. It’s still in there!! Why would they have any reason to lie. They are heartbroken with Mr. Stupak for changing his vote. I watched him on C-Span where he said he didn’t know how he would vote when it comes up for vote but would not vote for it if abortion coverage is in it. The people at the town hall meeting clapped loudly but now are so upset I doubt he will be re-elected. He was told by members of Congress before the Executive Order was signed by the President that it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on and could be overridden by Congress. He knew exactly what he was doing. Did he lie to the people he represents? Sure looks that way but I am probably wrong because I don’t read enough to know anything.

            You may be the majority in Congress now but you won’t be after the November elections. The conservative Democrats, Republicans and the Independents will make sure of that.

            Have a nice day and I will not be responding to you again unless you can present constructive dialogue instead of diatribe.

          • eyeswideopen

            Bud is this what you are referring too about the planned parenthood money? Please note it was for the abstinence program that all the conservatives believe in whole heartedly. Even though it has been proven not to work. This is a conservative program.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/26/AR2010032602457.html?hpid=topnews

          • JeffH

            Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
            Mark Twain

        • Claire

          Palin12–Good for you!! And I KNOW yours are originals!!

        • Smilee

          Palin12 says:
          April 6, 2010 at 1:14 pm

          I really tend to believe you and if I had to bet on it I would bet yours are untouched, I just wanted to call attention to the fact many are retouched today and we should be aware of that and admit I was pulling your leg a bit. More power to you if National Geographic would hire you

          • JeffH

            S C says: If you have found strength in the Tea Party, it is utterly illogical to waste time exploring another ‘party.’”

            …”let the useful idiots of America rant and rave while America regains its freedom.”

            eyeswideopen says: “s c, so, everyone must follow your idea of freedom and that means not to investigate any other organization? You expect others to just accept that they need to belong to the tea party organization with no questions asked?”

            JeffH says: Big mouth spin doctor is misunderstanding S C’s point and trying to put the usual spin of word’s into it.
            It seems that an opinion was made by SC and an opinionated assumption was made by Big mouth. Hmmmm, spinnin like a top again…

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, nope, that is exactly what all of you want.. no individual thinking is allowed, and you must follow exactly what we say and do, no exceptions allowed. Free thinking is not what you are promoting, soon as you tell someone not to explore another organization, you are announcing your authoritarian right wing position.

          • JeffH

            Hey big dummy…keep the spin going. Your accusation is a complete fabrication(lie) as usual.

            A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
            George Bernard Shaw

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, who gave you the book of famous quotes? lol

          • Palin12

            Thanks Smilee. I am just a hobbyist photographer but people do tend to like my photos for some reason. I won first place in a photo contest last year with my local newspaper for a pet photo. They also decorated a conference room at my job with photos from some of my travels, including a trip to Iceland.

          • eyeswideopen

            Palin, where do you live? Is it a republican state? After Palin wanted people to pull over those with an Obama sticker on their car, do you think any independents or dems would really go to a tea party event, knowing that the word had been put out to “search out those with stickers” and ask them what they are doing? Only a fool would set himself and his family up to be injured by radicals, who applauded when their are referred to as Timothy McVeigh wanna bees.

          • Palin12

            I live in Nevada, home of your senate majority leader. Is that what you call a republican state? 2 out of 3 congresspeople are democrats also. Unfortuneatly, our attorney general is a dem also.

          • Palin12

            ….and by the way, I don’t like Ensign (R-NV) one bit either, but he’s not up for reelection this year.

          • Palin12

            Eyes you are full of it! I got a song for you by the Eagles….”You Can’t Hide Your Lyin Eyes. And your smile is a thin disguise. I thought by now you’d realize. Their ain’t no way to hide your lyin eyes!”

          • Claire

            And I don’t like (trust) Ensign, Boehner, McCain, Cantor, Jindal, Reid, Pelosi, Geitner, Holder, Schumer, Leiberman, and on and on.

          • eyeswideopen

            Palin, don’t worry, Engsin will be up on corruption charges shortly. He will be kicked out of office. Then you have a shot at replacing him with someone worthwhile.

          • Palin12

            That’s fine with me!

      • eyeswideopen

        Claire, I am posting site, but what I want you to notice is picture on right hand side, with quote underneath. It is from 1922. Things are the same. This politicking is only more aggressive as we have the economy, immigration, energy, education, healthcare, Wall Street, unemployment, two wars, at a crisis situation all happening at one time. Keep the faith, one step at a time, things can be fixed.
        http://mirroronamerica.blogspot.com/2008/09/palin-connected-to-anti-american-fringe.html

    • eyeswideopen

      E O, please call them Tea Partiers. No need to offend with calling them by the wrong name. THX.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      EO,

      And I guess you just want to play with your crayons and pretend to be “enlightened”.

      Fed Up Gal

  • JPW-

    Eyes: JeffH is living in fear of our current government because of the jobs bill and health care.He is my neighbor and he thinks it will put him back to work and cut off his food stamps.

    • JeffH

      Nothing is as dangerous as an ignorant friend; a wise enemy is to be preferred.

      • Claire

        Keep your “friends” close and your enemies “closer.”

    • eyeswideopen

      JPW, he is on Medicare and SS disability which means he doesn’t work. I think he may be afraid that those socialist government programs that he is using will be terminated. It is interesting that he bashes government help, when he is getting disability. I feel for him that something bad happened to him, but the conservative mantra is: work and take care of yourself, NO GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS ALLOWED!!! Too bad if you had something happen to you that was out of your control. He is afraid that someone is going to take away his benefits, but it makes no sense that he is mad at the government who is helping him.

  • eyeswideopen

    Bud, Please prove there is a place in Texas that does abortions with Planned Parenthood. Where is the link? Can you read, I didn’t make any comment about your comment about healthcare being an abomination. I sent you to a link to show the number of jobs the repubs were claiming that the stimulus created. I have read the bill, both of them and did not find any monies spent on abortion. Show me the link, that shows it in the bill. Yes Planned Parenthood got funding, if you think all teenagers will refrain from sex (see Palins daughter as a good example) you are not living in the real world. I would rather see birth control rather than abortions performed. Are you aware that over 70% of the abortions are obtained by Christian women? To at least stop them, birth control should be available. I am an Independent, who used to be a Repub, so, my party isn’t in power now. Show me the link with the info about Texas and abortions. I have family in Austin who I will send to check it out, if it is in that city. I am willing to read anything you have. By the way, if you do read the bill, you will see that the insurance isn’t really mandated and it isn’t considered a crime. But don’t let that secret out as then no one will purchase it. I won’t take info from a conservative right to life group. AUL has a political agenda and they won’t have the facts. I usually don’t quote, huffington, salon, dailykos or any of those “liberal” sites that people here don’t like… I hunt until I find something non biased. So if you send me to AUL site, it will just mimick what you are stating. If they gave you the info, they should have quoted what page of bill, what article, and what section they found the abortion clause which will legally have the government pay for them. Sorry you thought it was a diatribe, but this site has been battling this issue for long time and it does get tiring when the same arguement comes back for the gazzallon time. I apologize.

  • http://Verizon.net Bud Grounds

    Eyeswideopen: You see that Planned Parenthood does have more than one facility in Texas that does abortions.

    I won’t argue about what the money is supposedly for. I do know from comments Karen Sebulius has made that she is very pro-choice and was very adamant about making sure money was provided for them. Just curious why she would do this being a liberal. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time this administration has misappropriated funding.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Hmm. don’t know why the link to tomsullivan.com didn’t make the leap from my computer to this site. Maybe it doesn’t like other websites being posted here like tom sullivan dot com .

  • JeffH

    Possibly this link also…
    http://www.foxnews.com/radio/tomsullivan/

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Jeff H., thanks. O.k., I’ll ask: “How’d he do that?”. How in the Sam Hill did you get the link to actually show up? Why, I’ve been at this for just over a year now and I still don’t know everything? Hmm.

  • David Witham

    How can we pass term limits and serious campaign reform. Eliminate the congressmen and women worrying about financing the next election, and many of our problems will be solved. Can we somehow have a vote for term limits as part of the 2010 election.

  • JeffH

    I normally copy and paste straight from my browser.

  • JeffH

    …and prior to that I just did a search for Tom Sullivan, found the right site then went to it which left the http:// address in my browser to copy and paste in.

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