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A World Changer

March 16, 2011 by  

A World Changer

How quickly our lives can change. On Thursday the discussions were about public sector unions, Charlie Sheen’s public meltdown, the growing instability in the Middle East and Congress’ lip service to meaningful government cuts.

On Friday we awoke to news reports of the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, and tsunami warnings for Hawaii and the United States West coast. As the day dragged on we began to get an idea of the magnitude of the disaster in Japan as video and photographs of the devastation began to trickle in.

By Monday, with Japanese nuclear reactors malfunctioning, melting down and threatening a Chernobyl-style radiation releasing event and still more pictures of the hardest hit areas appearing in print and on television, the gravity of the event had sunk in. It was obvious the horrific event was a world-changer.

Of course it changed life in Japan in an instant. Japan is/was a nation inseparable from its high-tech gadgets, perhaps even more so than America. But none of that matters now. Most of those high-tech devices don’t even work… even in areas of the country not touched by the physical effects of the earthquake or tsunami.

Loss of electrical production from the malfunctioning nuclear plants has led to rolling blackouts and energy conservation measures across the country. The supply chain is down and even people far away from the events are finding food and water shortages. There is also the danger of radiation exposure as radioactive clouds drift across the country.

Store shelves in far-away cities are devoid of goods—some of that caused by panic buying. News reports said people were snapping up radios, matches, candles, fuel containers, sleeping bags, canned goods, instant noodles and bottled water. These are the types of things that everyone should have already stored in abundance.

While the ultimate results of this event—which rattled the earth physically, financially, emotionally and every other way possible—are yet to be fully known, there should be one takeaway from this event: Preparedness is paramount.

I have been preaching this to you for years in The Bob Livingston Letter™ and here on Personal Liberty Digest™ since it went online in 2008. If you haven’t started preparing, what are you waiting for?

And don’t forget to pray for the people of Japan.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • TIME

    What happened in Japan last week is a very good example of no matter how well stocked you may be, as well what you may have prepared for.
    There just are “NO GURANTEE’S” that what you have, nor even your life is really ever safe.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Time… I agree. I can’t wrap my head around what is happening over there. It is so over-whelming that it doesn’t seem real. It is an eye-opener as to how fast life can change. Maybe being prepared will be life-saving. Maybe it won’t.

      • http://www.freedomspitchfork.blogspot.com VWmama

        Being even just a little prepared is better than nothing!! We need to be prepared on all levels–physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I have read a lot on this subject and have found that being resourceful, learning low tech ways of doing things and knowing how to procure food and supplies are just as important as having emergency supplies on hand. There is only so much you can store and it will only last so long. Also any kind of emergency and survival training you can get will be helpful especially first aid. One training program I recommend hands down is CERT, available in most communities across the nation. Don’t just sit there and allow a spirit of negativity to creep in. There are things you, your family and your community can do to survive a disaster. Now is the time to learn, before disaster hits.

        • TIME

          VWM,

          I am not saying not to be prepared, {what I am saying} is when Mother Nature calls you have no way of telling what she she will take from you.

          We are in for a long ride with many more of these events of what will come out of what seems like the blue.
          Yet if one has done their work of looking past all the rhetoric / media hype / Progressive Hype / Political hype, and the utter aggressive ignorance that abounds let alone the outright stupidity of many.
          These coming event’s will test the Will, Faith and Courage of our “Natural leaders” amoung us ~ not elected jerks.

  • PatriotDog

    I pray for those in Japan and surrounding areas. This tragic event is so sad and to watch what many in Japan are going through, is an eye opener. I can only wait and see what else this catastrophe has in store for the rest of the world. I pray that the radiation drifting in the air doesn’t do harm in far away places.

  • George

    The only problem in the USA we face is:

    The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve System.
    and
    Fractional Reserve Banking. Fractional Reserve Banking. Fractional Reserve Banking. Fractional Reserve Banking. Fractional Reserve Banking. Fractional Reserve Banking.
    and
    Their Collection Gang
    Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service. Internal Revenue Service.

    Only since 1913 have we had endure and suffer their theft.

    There was no Internal Revenue Service until 1913. We had no Interest Bearing Currency Issuing until 1913.

    Stop babbling about crap that changes nothing in the USA. Start talking about why we do not issue our own currency interest free. If you continue to speak of any other crap, yo have proven just how ignorant you are about your own country’s currency issuing.

    Wake up you asleep sheep! We are being robbed everyday. There is no gold in Fort Knox.

    • bob wire

      yea! you might need to buy a bottle of water when there no water to buy!

    • JC in CA

      You’ve got your head on straight George. Why others refuse to learn how our nation and it’s people’s wealth is and has beeen stolen from our grand children’s grand children.

      The federal reserve act was amended in 2006 stating that the reserve requirements for all member banks for ALL accounts = 0%…yes that is right….Get all your financial cards in order, pay off your debts all before October 1st this year of 2011.

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section19.htm

      George, watch these crooks as they are already talking about BORROWING MORE to help Japan when they own over $880 billion in our T-bills… TIME TO CASH THOSE RESERVES IN JAPAN !! you bought’em just for this reason…JAPAN…you invested in the U.S. , made your billions in interest, now it’s time to give some of our debt back.

      Sorry to say it but JAPAN has a perfect opportunity to HELP US help them. I pray they heal as fast as possible.

      As for the rest of you…prepare in all aspects of your lives that will help protect yourselves. Learn, Live, Love. Our society must prepare for our own ‘tsunami’ has been heading for US since 1913 and ‘it’ is at our shores.

      Be well all.

      JC

    • DaveH

      Fractional Reserve Banking. I hear that phrase mentioned a lot, and I have to wonder how many people know what it really means. Here is an explanation of Reserve Requirements:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_requirement

      Note that if banks were required to hold 100% reserves (no fractional reserve banking), they would become essentially warehouses for our money. They could not lend any of it out for profit. That would be fine, but the service fees would be enormous. Then of course people would whine about that.
      I think there should be a Free Market in banking. Some would offer 100% reserves and huge fees. Some would offer different levels of held reserves, and much smaller fees (making their money on loans, etc.). Let the customers decide how much they want to pay and how much risk they want to assume. Meanwhile all those busybody regulators could get off our payrolls and become producers. Government’s role (a much smaller role) then would be enforcing Fraud Laws against banks that actually have defrauded their customers.
      As far as the Federal Reserve goes, it should just be abolished. There should be no fiat money, only money that is backed by hard assets.
      What would become of our existing money if no more was allowed to be printed? It would be no different than where we stand now, except that our savings would no longer be pillaged by the Federal Reserve creating new paper dollars out of thin air. Any new money could simply be coined by creating coins out of silver or gold or some other precious metals at the current market prices. Say for instance that Silver stood at $35 an ounce. Then a $20 Silver Coin could be minted that would be legal tender to buy $20 worth of groceries. That coin would weigh about 20/35 of an ounce (with some adjustment for the cost of the minting). The paper dollars would still be legal tender, but as time went on they would disappear from circulation.

    • JC

      Man you can say that again!
      Focus focus focus….

    • Stephan F.

      Talk is cheap — how about some (real) action. Get off your behinds and contact your congressmen & senators. Insist that they cosponsor & support the following bills that Ron & Rand Paul recently introduced to congress:

      H.R.459 – The Federal Reserve Transparency Act (House)

      S.202 – ” ” ” ” ” (Senate)

      Continue calling & emailing until they’re committed. This may take some perseverance — I had to bug my congressman for three weeks before he finally signed on to cosponsoring last years audit the Fed bill, HR1207. To check to see if your guy is already a cosponsor, go to this website & type in either bill number.

      http://thomas.loc.gov/

    • Jay

      How useless to spread a net
      where every bird can see it!
      These men lie in wait for their own blood;
      they ambush only themselves!
      Such are the paths of all who go after ill-gotten gain;
      it takes away the life of those who get it.

  • soldier

    I wish I could just get the exact truth on this nuclear meltdown situation. I hear people like Neal bortz saying this is no big deal, and others saying this is Cher-noble(sp?) on steroids. Mainstream media says radiation can’t reach western US, and others saying California is about to become radiated. Who knows what the truth is? We certainly can’t rely on the mainstream media to report the truth, but alternative news sources like the internet and talk radio are all over the board on this one. I guess if millions of Japanese and Californias start throwing up in 6-12 months and lossing their hair, we will know then, but this of course will be all covered up in the media as election 2012 will be all the rage in the news.

    • JC in CA

      avoid grazing meats, learn to drink powdered milk and eat TUNA, yes, sea food is an excellent source of Iodine. Muscles n Clams too.

      Be well.

      JC

      • Kate8

        I just read an article about clay (as in bentonite, montmorellinite, etc), and taking clay is the best, and least expensive, way to safely remove radiation from our bodies.

        Potassium iodide only protects the thyroid, and has multiple side effects. But clay is beneficial, and removes radiation from the whole body. Mentioned as especially good was French green clay, but that any is good. (I’m off to buy more clay. I’ve always used montmorellinite for the removal of toxins and heavy metals.) It also provides necessary minerals.

        This site had a great article on clay a week or so ago, and offered a clay product.

        • 45caliber

          The reason they recommend potassium iodide is that any radiation collects first in your thyroid gland. The iodine removes it from the thyroid better than anything else. But I don’t think we have anything to worry about. Japan is a LONG way from here! When Chenobyl melted, there was radiation detected from it as far as Norway – but only the workers in the plant actually had any radiation problems. And you can walk up to the plant site today without any serious problems.

          In fact, in a nuclear attack, the prescribed way to avoid radiation is to stay inside for about three days in your house. Most radiation deteriorates from nukes in less than an hour. (alpha and beta rays) In fact, plastic is a good absorber as well as water for those.

          The real problem is a dispersal of uranium particles if the probes melt and vaporize. I wouldn’t get too worried about that.

          • Kate8

            45 – Many people are concerned about radiation, and it was just something I threw out there.

            Whether we need to be concerned about radiation from Japan or not, it is only a matter of time until there is an incident that will affect us. It’s good to have as much info, and be as prepared as possible.

            BTW, I think the government always downplays hazards, so it’s wise to take every precaution. I don’t worry too much for myself, but I do want my family to have access to whatever they need in any situation.

          • libertytrain

            45caliber – it wasn’t just the workers in Chernobyl, the problems have not ended. http://chernobyl.typepad.com/chernobyl_childrens_proje/our-miss.html

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            Actually, I remember them saying there were measureable levels of radiation in the US from Chernobyl! This doesn’t mean it would harm a person, but when you figure how close Hawaii is to Japan, who knows???

          • http://?? Joe H.

            I meant to add that Japan is only about 3850 miles from Hawaii!!

        • barbm

          kelp and algae are supposed to be good for removing radiation. to protect your skin, i read that you can paint your stomach with regular iodine. i don’t see how radiation that gets into the oceans, fish, air can not spread world wide. there have been nuclear accidents since the 1940s. is it any wonder there’s so much cancer?

          • Kate8

            barb – Yes, I remember many years ago taking magnesium alginate when having x-rays. It is said to carry the radiation out of the body.

    • 45caliber

      soldier:

      So far the only radiation levels released are about ten times your daily dose of radiation from normal life. That is less than taking a flight across the country, which gives you even more.

      If the rods were allowed to melt, then they might generate a vapor cloud that could poison an area around the site – but so far two reactors are under control and cooling and the other two are being flooded with water to keep them coil. Yes, the water is boiling but water is a very good absorber of heat and there is plenty of it available there. The workers there may get too much radiation but I doubt if even the local population will.

      If any does reach the US from this site, it will be only a scientfic interest. It will be too low for any of us to worry about. But the scientists, government, and doom-sayers love to get everyone scared. It’s like the media announcing, “The world will be destroyed at 9:00 pm. More at 10:00.”

      • Kate8

        45 – I’m beginning to wonder if you are a spokesperson for the government!

        Nothing to be concerned about here, folks…move along.

        While I do appreciate your input, you are always pooh-poohing possible scenarios.

        Jus’ sayin’.

        • 45caliber

          Nope, I dislike the government. But I have spent about 35 years now working in the chemical industry. The government and the media likes to frighten people. It gets them more money that way. That’s why I’m not really concerned yet about radiation problems even for the Japanese. So far the only ones who are getting any of it are the fifty or so workers.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Why dont you go to a credible source that tells of the dangers of Radiation?Instead of listening to the idiots on the various forms of media who know next to nothing about the subject and quote sources from experts who are decidedly on the side of those who oppose nuclear energy in this country.Are all you people so thick that you fail to realize how skewed your media outlets are in reporting their radiological facts?Is the sensationalism of news not apparent to you the huddled masses?Do any of you know the difference between alpha,beta,and gamma particles?How about the affects of chronic versus acute?The difference between Roentgens Equivalent Man(REM),and Radiation Absorbed Dose (RAD)?You are being fed inaccurate information in order for the media to capitalize on your fear.Fear=Ratings,=your stupidly accepting their incomplete information!They fail to give you consise equasions and you suck it up like hungry children.Any paranoia is better than none right?If they gave you the correct formula:R/hr(roentgens per hour) or MR/hr(MR/hr is 1/1000th or -10 to the third power of the unit R/hr.Then you take into account the time,dose,and rate of exposure.All of these factors must be considered and the formula which you achieve is then given the title (REM).When you hear them quote their milli-roentgen equasion man,it sounds as if you are in danger.But what you are not being told is the amount,time,dose,and rate of exposure,so that media-sensationalism will have you by the short and curlies.Please dont fall for the experts on the news channels,as they may be experts in some field of endeavor,but truth is not one of them.

        • Kate8

          Cawmun Cents – Actually, I’ve heard little about the amounts of radiation from the quake. Other than seeing a few film clips of the situation in Japan, I quit watching news for Lent!

          I don’t believe any of the “experts”. Heck, the experts don’t believe the experts.

          All I’m saying is, be prepared for ANY eventuality. And, while we’re at it, truth is a very hard thing to come by. Tell me why I should listen to YOU instead, and why I should trust that your information is more accurate.

          • 45caliber

            Go to chron.com. (Houston Chronicle) One of the people there contacted one of the foremost experts on radiation problems and talked about both the plants in Japan and the chances of radiation danger to us. It might make you feel a lot better.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Let me put it to you this way.I am the guy who cleans the messes up when they get done pussyfooting around.Its what I do.Nuclear,biological,chemical,Heck I clean them all….But radiological waste can only be detected by machine.Look up the acronym ALARA,and see what you come up with.If you then dont think I know what I am talking about then you can voice your opinion here again.Exposure to 25 REM over 24 hrs time would be lethal.Exposure to 100,000 MR/hr may cause Nausea in 50% of exposed subjects,while exposure to 500,000 mrem +/-,the body may not recover.This is of course terms of dosage,amount of exposure,times duration of exposure.That is the formula which I quoted in my earlier post.Look it up for yourself if you think you are being lied to by me.Dont blindly accept what the people you see on the television say.There is an agenda behind nearly everyone who speaks on the news.

          • Cawmun Cents

            One last thing KATE8,I do not work for the government,but for private Hazardous waste removal company.We do work all over the world.

    • barbm

      i read last night that the japanese govt isn’t being straight with the rest of the world. the media can’t report what they haven’t been told. not that i’d trust them even if they did.

      • Kate8

        barbm – Government not being straight with people? NO!

        • barbm

          th comments i read were made because japan is asking the rest of the world to help them, but they won’t give the nuclear scientists a straight story. kind of difficult to come up with a solution when they won’t tell you what the entire problem is. that comment was made to soldier who said the mainstream media isn’t reporting everything. they couldn’t even if they wanted to if japan isn’t telling the whole story.

  • Mick

    What happened in japan can happen anywhere or everywhere than we can kiss our A**es goodbye,
    I love this assertion about nuclear power being so clean safe until mother nature decides otherwise, those engineers and scientists in co hoot with many governments are very good at pulling the wool over people’s eyes and downplay every possibilities of a world wide disaster when nuclear power is concerned,I guess they will never learn that they’re NOT INVINCIBLE and mother nature can kick their A**es anytime it wants to……….

    • 45caliber

      Sounds as if the media has really frightened you about the dangers of nukes. You should read up on them. It isn’t nearly as bad as they try to make it seem. Most nuclear “waste” is low enough that you could wear it in your jocky shorts the rest of your life without any problem.

      To give you an idea, the government considers contamination based on background levels. For lead, for instance, the local background level is about 8 ppm (parts per million). So the government considers 10 ppm lead as contaminated soil here and it costs a fortune to decontaminate it. It isn’t that 10 ppm will harm you, it just means that it is higher than normal for the area. However, if you check near a road intersection that has had a gas station for thirty or forty years, the level may be as much as 30,000 ppm – and the government considers that to be fine.

      Radiation is the same way. So you do get a little more than normal. All of it is a lot less than you’d get in your next dental X-ray. But terror stories sell and the news media knows it.

      • Kate8

        45 – By gosh, I feel sooooo much better knowing that the “government” (whoever that consists of) says that whatever levels of toxicity we are exposed to, it’s JUST FINE.

        Never mind that, as toxic levels of whatever rise, the “acceptable” limits also rise. Who’s making these decisions, anyway?

        And never mind that we have a “government” that cares nothing about us, and lies, lies, lies. And, especially, never mind that we have a “government” that wants to drastically reduce our numbers, using any and every means available.

        45, I love ya, but you put waaaay to must trust in a pack of nameless beaurocrats who readily deny ANYTHING is harmful, while people (and flora and fauna) are tipping over like insects in a fumigated building. It’s good to know that it has nothing to do with toxic exposure. Guess it’s just some mysterious luck-of-the-draw, after all.

        • Cawmun Cents

          I feel so much better about how someone can pull wool right over your eys,and you not only dont mind,but you glorify it as if is is the truth.You are being fooled and you like it.You are subjected to partial information and base your entire existence on it.Lawmakers will order more bureaucracy to protect you from nothing and you will exclaim,”Goody Goody”.The press has you bamboozled.You are content to listen to half-baked stories that make you say,”hmmmmm?”.You are in no danger,but if it were possible that you could be,then you think that the media is your friend that supplies you with knowledge.How ignorant do you have to be to assume you will get truth for media sources,no matter the political leanings.Now you know what is wrong with our nation.You eat what you are fed,instead of feeding yourself.

          • Kate8

            C C – Get over yourself. I don’t listen to anyone, not even you. What I do pay attention to is what I see going on all around me.

            I guess you are another one who thinks that the rate of disease and general unwellness is just some unknown, mysterious factor.

            Go eat some more GMO phude. And don’t forget to get your flu shot.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Yes by all means and if everyone around you is incorrect then you will feel vindicated because you went along with the crowd.I have seen your type of reasoning and know it well.

          • Kate8

            C C – I get that you work in the stuff, and have received training. I also get that you accept the information you’ve been taught. Great. Maybe it’s right and maybe it’s not.

            You don’t know the first thing about me, though, and you talk to me like I’m an idiot. That is what I dislike. You only show your contempt for people, when we have every reason to distrust “experts”.

            I have NEVER been one to go along with the crowd, for better or worse. In fact, it’s gotten me into trouble sometimes, because I tend to walk my own path. So slam me all you want – I’ve been handed worse from those I care more about than you.

            It’s just too bad that we can’t have more respect for and patience with one another, being that we are all, more or less, in the same sinking boat. If you have infomation to offer, then, by all means, do so. But it’s not necessary to get derogatory and belittling of those who question your sources of info.

            Have a great day.

          • Cawmun Cents

            I apologize Kate8.But the fact that you do not listen to anyone is apparent.You did not need to make the statement to me that you do not listen to anyone.I figgured that out from the very beginning.

        • 45caliber

          Kate8:

          I suppose it’s my background in chemical plants. Anything is dangerous when it gets to be large quantities of it. Water, oxygen, anything. Supposedly there are tests made that the government is supposed to follow – but as I said, they don’t depend upon the tests as much as they do the difference between background levels of it and what extra might be there. That is bureocrats for you.

          But the levels of radiation they are talking about so far is far below the exposure levels you get from an X-ray. There is a possibility for it to get worse, but nothing to worry about yet. And nothing for any American in the US to worry about at all.

          • Kate8

            45 – I am not going to get hysterical about it one way or another. Like I said, I don’t really trust anyone to tell the truth, or even to KNOW the truth, so what’s left but to live day by day the best we can.

            And I’m well aware that the media hypes everything. Hysteria sells.

            I do keep an arsenal of remedies on hand for my family, and have had occasion to use them. That’s just practical sense.

            That’s all I’ve been saying.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Illinois has 6 nuclear plants–and I bet none of them could withstand any disaster. I highly doubt maintenance/safety is what it should be. I say this because I am too used to slipshod government here.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            my father was a chemist at diamond shamrock and he says that dioxin that you claim to be harmless in Agent orange is one of the most toxic substances made. I personally have seen chloracne, I know several vets that have developed cancer from their exposure to itand this was a substance that, when sprayed into the vegetation, a few hours later, they saw monkeys falling from the trees. so you tell me how I’m supposed to take your word about the dangers of radiation when I know you are wrong about this???

          • 45caliber

            Joe H.

            On dioxine. All I know was what I was shown and told when going through the classes on it. I was in areas that were sprayed with it and I used it as a teen to kill a lot of brush we were clearing. No problems for me or anyone in my family.

            I do know that a plant in Italy, about 45-50 years ago making 100% dioxine blew up and covered the town in it. It killed most of the trees and plants but none of the people or animals. Thirty years later they had the lowest cancer occurence in Italy. That to me indicates it isn’t that bad – on humans or animals. Plants, yes. There were other studies also done.

            So I’ll stick by what I saw, was taught, and heard about it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        It has been proven that any exposure to lead by children can be bad for them. We moved into a house that was 83 years old and had to remove ALL paint from the windows and some of the soil around the house perimiter. There were measurable levels in my child and I DON’T TAKE CHANCES WHERE THEY ARE CONCERNED! If there is no danger form it, why did they ban it, and if there is no danger to the radiation, then why don’t they just let it take care of itself???

        • 45caliber

          I didn’t say either was not dangerous; I was trying to point out that the media and the government are talking about “contamination” in such small amounts (while allowing large amounts elsewhere) that you can’t really trust what they tell you.

          Yes, lead is poisonous. But a LOT of it is required to harm you. Lead paint is bad if the child EATS a lot of it – not if they happen to be around it. Radiation is EVERYWHERE. The amounts so far that they are talking about are quite small – they are just higher than normal background. Radiation in large quantities is dangerous. But if it helps, water in small amounts is good for you. But if someone dropped you off in the middle of the ocean, I suspect it would be in enough quantity to kill you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            try breathing in just the amount in a little bit of dust, which is present at any explosion and see if you don’t get cancer of the lungs!! The exposure all depends on the type of exposure as well as the amount!! there have been people that have willingly been exposed to 100 times the recommended amount of exposure with brain tumors and lived out a normal life. breathe in that amount and see how “normal” your life is!! Expose a year old infant to that amount anf it could be dead in a years time!!

          • Cawmun Cents

            Like I said just tell them its all deadly and cancerous and they will love you.You cant educate people who desire to be stupid,Or as Ron White put it….”You cant fix stupid”!

          • Kate8

            Cawmun – There you go again. If we don’t readily accept what we hear just because you say so, we must be morons.

            I’m sure you disagree with me quite often, yet I know there are things I know more about than you do. This does not offend me at all. Besides, I never said you (or 45) were wrong. I just don’t know that you, or any other “expert”, is right. All too often they are not.

            Also, I have not been on the panicking bandwagon. I ask quesions, I do research. I evaluate credibility. That’s all anyone can do. There’s a ton of misinformation going around, on purpose, and everyone seems to think they have the right answer.

            The only thing I do know is that government cannot be trusted to tell it like it is, and there are many differing points of view even among those who profess to know. Danger is always downplayed to those who are going to have to play in it.

  • soldier

    A really scary thought is that if we have a hyperinflation holocaust, our reactors could all melt down if the workers wish to stop working for nothing… Of course even the most valiant and heoric of workers ok with working for worthless fiat currency or for free requires food and water. In a hyperinflation scneario, our nuclear plant technicians may not get the food they need. Wow, as if a hyperinfaltionary collapse wasn’t bad enough, we could have multiple meltdowns on our hands…

    • soldier

      Actually, as a 30 year old video gamer, I should have seen this comming a mile away. I remember in the Civilization video game series, you could have a nuclear plant meltdown if your cities started rioting due to population unhappiness once if you built any nuke reactors in your cities…

  • Rennie

    Three reactors that have only a containment shield preventing them from becoming three Chernobyls, reactor four was down but spent rods in a cooling pond that is not shielded and like the rest of the reactors suffering from loss of cooling water. Raw seawater means particles not in distilled water, so when that turns into evaporated steam from the heat, that means fallout. While pro-nuclear industry experts suggest that the water levels falling just means it turns into steam and magically evaporates downplaye the FACT water exposed to teh rods is leaking from containment in at least one reactor. Dumping water in hopes the rods will lose potency before exposure (blasts, heat and continued aftershocks) ignores what should be the obvious answer at this point, a Chernobyl style containment should be under construction NOW. Saltwater means these reactors will never be usable again anyways, BURY THEM NOW. When radiation gets too high there is no cooling efforts, which means each time they evacuate, things are apt to get far worse before things get better. I don’t expect deadly radiation on the USA West Coast, Alaska and Hawaii plus other Pacific region islands, ships, floating factories, oil rigs, etc. may be in doubt. More importantly the food supply, both in Japan (who feeds North Korea everytime they sword rattle), and our West Coast plus all those fisheries are now in doubt (some might be sqeamish about all the corpses and pollution too from the tsunami). they will have to be carefully monitored, prices will climb even more, and if you like tea or other Japanese/Hawaiian/Alaska products with long shelf life I would suggest BUY THEM NOW. The long term financial consequences as far as industrial products and sub components, the gold market (Japan’s central bank had to get that 183 billion somewheres), and the 20% or so Japan owns of our national debt, are not so east to calculate. Call them soothsayers or scientists, a number of people on youtube and elsewhere are predicting a major West Coast quake within days or weeks, even if it doesn’t happen it makes you stop and think about those GE designed power plants in Japan.

    • 45caliber

      I have to agree with the experts. If you boil raw sea water enough you will end up with contaminated salt. The water boils away but the rest remains. There are a FEW things in salt water that will evaporate with the water, but not many. And those that do are not “Fallout”. Fallout is from particles blown into the air from an explosion in most cases. Since this is boiling water, they don’t get blown into the air. Besides, most of the items in sea water aren’t that harmful. After all, I would be willing to bet that any time you go to the beach you end up getting a taste of it – and you aren’t dead yet or you wouldn’t be posting here.

      • Cawmun Cents

        What sense is there in educating people who want to be stupid?They swallow what the newsfeed craps out for them,and dont even care about its content.Instead of looking for the reality,they accept what seems to be real from incredulous outlets who sensationalize everything in order to cause effect.It works!You are wasting your time 45.,as these folks dont want the truth they cant handle.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Just tell them to be afraid….very afraid,and you’ll be speaking their language.

        • Kate8

          And, of course, YOU, CC, have the REAL truth.

          Good grief. You can find an “expert” to say anything you want. Doctors are “experts” in their field, but I wouldn’t trust much of what they say, because EVERY expert is only expert in the particular way he’s been indoctrinated. They are just regurgitating what someone else deemed fact.

          You are as snowed as everyone else. You just don’t know it.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Be very afraid Kate8….there does that make you feel better?

          • Cawmun Cents

            One day you will find out that “experts” are people who are paid by certain interests to communicate whatever those interests that pay them want communicated.When you figure that one out come back and play with the adults.

          • Cawmun Cents

            It is very similar when the press says,”studies have shown”but who,what,how.why,and who might be behind the study?,is never communicated to the listener.You are left to make a decision based on the phrase”studies have shown”.It is a joke.

          • Kate8

            C C – You state my point exactly. So why do you deride me for asking questions?

            I find your approach demeaning and insulting. When you can present your point of view in a respectful manner, I will be glad to listen. Until then, save your breath (or fingers, in this case).

        • Cawmun Cents

          No Kate8,I am not an
          “expert” nor have I done any conclusive “studies”.However I have gone out and educated myself through the most credible sources that I could find.Through that and the training I have received,I am confident that I present truthfulness,to the best of my knowledge.Am I infallibe?No.Do I feel like every source of information is possibly bogus?No.Do I feel as if people are intentionaaly trying to hide the truth from me?Possibly…but only when I get my information through media sources,which necessitates my being thrifty by analyzing the sources of information available.In other words…all the sources available.Even you.Yes Kate8,I agree with you on many points that you make.Probably even most of them.45 caliber,is one voice which I appreciate because it seems to me as if his words have reasoning behind them.I do not agree with evertything said here,but I certainly hear what is being said here.This is how I educate myself,not by assumptions of right and wrong by the individuals making statements to each other,but by the character and content of what is written.I must say that I admire your character and even your content most of the time.So I will now make a statement that I have learned from you.I do not wish for you to think that I talk to you as if you are an idiot,for I do not think that of you in particular.It is the sentiment that everyone has to be continuously paranoid about worldly issues that I find offensive.I do indeed find that particular content idiotic.When a voice of measured reason comes along and you cull its validity by saying things like,
          “how do I know that you know anything about it or why should I trust your interpretation of things?”It is not my observation that the truth is to be found,but rather that the voice has content which is meant to be reassuring.The paranoid throw out their message as if it needs to be heard.But a person like 45. caliber,has merit to his words,through trying to alieviate suspicion,and steer you away from fear.That whether you understand it or not is a noble trait.Nobody wants to make anyone think they are saying something bad,but when someone says something designed to calm you and help you to be less fearful,it is a good thing.You might want to lend more validity to that behavior than to the opposite which is chaotic and fear-mongering.That is all….

          • Kate8

            C C – I appreciate your comments, and often agree with you, as well. I also appreciate 45 very much, and have posted with him on these threads for a long time now. He is one of the best.

            It’s good to be a voice of calm and reason. However, it depends on the situation. Too often we are NOT told the truth about things. Take, for example, the toxicity of Corexit in the Gulf, and the far-reaching damage it’s caused. Or the effects of multiple x-rays, or fluoride, or side effects of drugs. How about the contents of chemtrails? Heck, they supposedly don’t even exist, even though they are visible in our skies every day.

            Another example: how everyone scoffed at those warning of the coming NWO and all that goes with it. The coming collapse of the dollar, the cost of food and fuel…Some things are real, yet there are many out there who say everything is fine.

            I don’t believe in panic and hysteria, but I do believe in being prepared for any eventuality. If one is prepared, we can deal with things calmly and rationally. As I said, I have an arsenal of natural healing remedies in my home, I have studied vibrational healing exhaustively and continue to do so…and it’s paid off. I’ve successfully treated pneumonia and worse, without panic, doctors or hospitals.

            I have a mind, and I use it. I have a gut instinct, and I follow it. I do not accept soothing words just because someone claims to know, but I do take their words under consideration, just as I do yours and 45′s.

            BTW, I heard an “expert” last night being interviewed on my favorite radio show (C2C), and he said that low levels of radiation over extended periods of time are far more harmful than quick bursts of higher levels. He also said that ALL types of radiation are cumulative, and add up over time. This follows much info I’ve gotten over the years, and makes sense to me.

            Like I said, I don’t really worry about my own safety. I know how to care for myself in many ways. But I do care about my family, and others as well, and am willing to offer anything I know to be able to assist them if they ask. That is what life should be about: cooperation.

  • jopa

    I am totally impressed with the coverage of the Japanese peoples reaction in this catastrophic time.There is no such thing as looting,people pushing and shoving for necessities or any type of civil disorder.Their total respect for each other and their willingness to share whatever little they have is very impressive.Then back to America we have head Rush Limpbaugh making jokes about their misfortunes.Some people just don’t know when to be a little more respectful of others.

    • bob wire

      Really! Rush did that? Geeesh !

      They say it’s cold, in the 30′s at night over there. People are sleeping in their cars, hungry, thirsty, and little can be bought in stores.

      In another three to four days, they will need to get food and water in to these people, it will be imperative and life threatening.

      I figure they will fly it in on “slicks” is my guess. All of this happening with 4 nuclear meltdowns serving as a backdrop!

      James Mitchner couldn’t have written a more intense novel.

      It’s be good to get these people out of the country but where would they go, and how could it ever be done?

      These people need to be moved at least 60 miles from this area, and accommodations made for them. ~ A place need to be prepared now!

      • 45caliber

        The present plans are to vacate an area about 12 miles from the site. Not because it is dangerous but as a precaution. The next six miles are asking people to remain in their homes and not go out unless necessary. The rest are okay. Those plans I saw on a British news paper this morning. So don’t get too excited.

    • Thamera

      Do either of you actually LISTEN to Rush? Highly doubtful.

      • bob wire

        well, as a standard practice, I attempt not too!

        • Thamera

          Bob W: With all due respect, how can you comment on what you don’t even listen too? I think if you actually listened to Rush and commentators like him (ie: Beck) you might not so readily agree with the bias of some of the comments on this thread, like Jopa for instance. Of greater concern, however, is the threat that we are facing in light of this most recent disaster in Japan and I am praying that the predictions are wrong about a major earthquake on the west coast sometime in the next few days :/

          • barbm

            PLEASE don’t sing the praises of glenn beck. he’s not a tea partyer, he’s a rino in tea party clothing. he sabotaged the tea party candidate for texas governor. he and palin both campaigned for rino rick perry. he even went so far as to say he’d like to french kiss perry. made lots of comments on how good looking perry is. is beck gay?

          • 45caliber

            Thamera:

            Don’t worry about that earthquake off Washington state “in the next few days”. Some media reporter asked an expert if one could happen here. The expert said that it could happen anywhere but if you wanted the same incident as Japan, that would be the ONLY place on the mainland. When asked when it could happen, he said anytime between now and 500 years from now. The reporter sort of left that part off.

            Earthquakes are possible anywhere at any time. But the liklihood of them is pretty rare unless you live in Japan or Southern California. Turkey is also a poor place to live. But most other areas are fine. Further, this 8.9 quake was the first anywhere in the world that big in over a hundred years.

          • Thamera

            barbm: what post are you referring to? I don’t recall anyone “singing the praises” of Glenn Beck and btw a lot of what Beck does is called satire, ever heard of it?

          • Thamera

            @45caliber: thank your for your posts, they are calm and rational and I appreciate them.

          • barbm

            yours. ” I think if you actually listened to Rush and commentators like him (ie: Beck) you might not so readily agree with the bias of some of the comments on this thread, like Jopa for instance.” it wasn’t satire when he took medina out of the running. she had gone from 4% of the vote before the 1st debate she was allowed to attend to 17% when beck stabbed her in the back. she was closing in on perry and hutchison. it was being predicted that she would, at the very least, force a run-off. but, at the rate she was going, the rinos were scared to death she’d just out-and-out win. and she did all of that with less than half a million dollars in donations from individuals. perry and hutch both spent MULTI millions. satire? yeah, i’ve heard of it. you ever hear of sarcasm?

          • bob wire

            “Bob W: With all due respect, how can you comment on what you don’t even listen too?”

            Well? ??? with all due respect Thamera, I deliberately metered my comment for that very reason, as I quote myself “Really! Rush did that? Geeesh !”

            Rush is a political entertainer by his own admission. I grew up in a household of entertainers of much higher caliber and have advanced beyond what he tends to offer up as amusement.

            I place Rush and Beck in with Howard Stearn and other such celebrities of notoriety that pamper to a narrow audience.

            I’ve given all of them several opportunities to amuse or inspire me over the years, read their bio’s etc, they had their shot at me.

            But if you enjoy his entertainment, that’s all that matters. It’s clear he offers appeal to someone.

        • Thamera

          @Bob: Certainly entertainment is subjective, I agree. @barbm: Are you saying that Beck is not entitled to his opinion? And yes, I am well versed in satire and sarcasm both of which play an important part in communicating ideas and Beck utilizes both very well. Satire and sarcasm are by no means new to the public arena of discourse. Have you ever read Jonathon Swift? Now there is satire at its finest, most disturbing but he is able to deliver his point.

          • barbm

            beck’s entitled to his opinion, but he’s not allowed to lie. he says he backs the tea party then sabotages the tea party candidate. how do you ever again trust somebody who does that? i meant that i was being sarcastic when i asked if he’s gay. i don’t give a hoot what beck says or does.

    • Eddie47d

      I have seen homeless people roaming our streets forever and most Americans ignore them. Some cities offer overnight shelters and that is about it. We push that the individual has to do for themselves and shove aside those that don’t conform. We don’t work together as a nation anymore and I can’t help think it will only get worse. Are we the UNITED States of America or Individuals of America? I didn’t see that attitude in Japan in 1968 (a ways back) and they seemed to work for the common good of the community. I help my neighbors all the time building fences or shoveling snow but I also give to the homeless shelter. I also encourage our local government to pay for job training for the homeless. Yes that involves tax money but it give those men and women dignity and a better way to deal with life. I will admit Americans are generous in giving during tragedies but soon forget the hard work that follows.

      • Thamera

        @Eddie: I too work in the “trenches” with the homeless and their problems are multi-faceted. There are thousands of good people giving their time and service to help people in this country less fortunate; however, do not be so naive to the fact that many of the people living on the streets are actually where they want to be. I can’t make sense of it, but talk to them and they will tell you that is where they want to be (with exceptions, of course).

        • Eddie47d

          That is very true where some want the vagabond lifestyle. As you said ,go figure.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        Many of those who are homeless need the help and you are to be congratulated for trying to give it. Others choose that life style. Don’t automatically assume that all are desperate and need help or that training will help them.

        At one time, we had hospitals and homes to care for those who had mental problems. The government ruled about 1965 or so that these had to be closed because the “poor people were being kept prisoner against their will”. Actually it was for money reasons. The politicians decided that the money could be better spent elsewhere because it could get them more votes that way. As a result a good portion of the homeless are these people.

        (And I remember when they closed one of those hospitals near where I lived. One of the residents, being interviewed about his new “freedom” said, “You people don’t understand. Those locks weren’t meant to keep us in. They were meant to keep you out.”)

    • Carlucci

      That does not surprise me. I’ve been to Japan and was very impressed with the Japanese people. They were very polite and always willing to lend a helping hand to two stranded Americans trying to read a Tokyo subway map. I think they also wanted to practice their English. Really nice people.

      • 45caliber

        You are correct on both reasons.

        In fact, it has always amused me. Most countried including Japan teach their people in school to speak some English because English is considered the international business language. The US is the only country in the world to want to use something else because “it isn’t fair to insist they learn our language.”

    • DaveH

      You know, Jopa, I am no Rush Limbaugh fan, but when you slander somebody (I doubt Rush would behave as you stated), the least you can do is to provide some evidential links to back up your claims.

      • Kate8

        DaveH – I agree. What jopa said just smacks of more leftist slander.

        As irreverent as Rush sometimes can be (nothing wrong with that), he is NOT mean. Unless, of course, one is a lefty and he’s poking fun at a leftist icon. Jopa’s statement has NO credibility.

  • Bert Cundle

    Prayer is NO HELP!!! The Orentals Were A Respectful People… Until they become westernized! Damn Shame, When We Should Have Learned From Them!

    • Bert Cundle

      Maby Government Creating Jobs…

      • Bert Cundle

        Than Why isn’t TWIN TOWERS REBUILT?????

        • Cawmun Cents

          I believe I can answer your question Mr.Cundle.The towers were the place where world trade was done from the early seventies until Sept.11th 2001.When the towers fell it necessitated a new place frpm which to trade.The exchange was re-started elsewhere negating the need to rebuild the towers.The place where they fell is considered hallowed ground now so no trade will ever be done there again.Construction of several buildings has been in progress but their use and or configuration is yet to be determined.

    • Thamera

      Respectful people with a very bloody history. Know anything about the Japanese treatment of the Chinese? I am also deeply sorry for the tragedy in Japan, but what does that have to do with respect, or prayer or anything?

      • Kate8

        Thamera – Good point. I suspect that the Japanese are only human, like the rest of us!

        I have known a few Japanese (immigrants), and they were delightful people. It is their culture, however, to always be outwardly respectful, even humble. One described them as wearing the “all-purpose smile”. Whether they are thinking “I like you” or “I hate you”, they smile and bow. They would smile and bow just prior to wielding the sword to your neck. It’s an emotional discipline that actually has much value.

        Cultural differences aside, we need to pray for them, as we could well be next.

        I am also impressed with what I’ve seen of their respect and civility toward one another in this time of crisis. This behavior was once a hallmark of the American spirit, as well, until liberalism took over and destroyed our moral foundations.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          kate8,
          I guess they forgot the yakuza??? Very respectful bunch. I guess they also forgot the kamakazi pilots, or the treatment of our troops in Japanese prison camps or what they did to the Philippines!!!

          • libertytrain

            JoeH – we’re not dealing with that now, we’re dealing with a people that is suffering. I doubt if there is a people anywhere, a culture anywhere that can’t be faulted in their history for very bad deeds and will be more than likely faulted in the future for deeds yet to be done. How long do we hold it against them? And yes, in this day and age there are barbaric people doing barbaric things. I’m not all that forgiving to those current groups of people; but I can forgive the Japanese and I’m hoping they can forgive us for what we did to them in the past.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            the day of the yakuza is not in the past. It is now. they are likened to the American Mafia! Every culture has its nobil and good people just as every one has its scum! all I am saying is not all of the Japanese are noble and stoic as the posters above are painting them to be. I have seen some that were very rude just off the plane here in the states. The problem is that people tend to forget that when they see a big portion of the population suffering, and yes they are definately suffering! do you understand what I’m trying to say? I think there are MANY Americans that would be just as noble and as willing to give and help, even at the cost of doing without themselves as in Japan.

          • libertytrain

            Joe, sorry I was referring to Kamikaze etc. No, honestly I don’t understand what you’re saying. People are people and they need help. Have you not ever met a rude American getting off a plane? I have. Every flight I’ve ever taken.

      • 45caliber

        True. One reason they are so respectful was that until sixty years ago or so it was legal for any non-respectful people people to be killed by any samurai in the area in some outlying areas of the country. A hundred years ago, such dis-respect was fatal everywhere. A lot of their repectful ways now are hold-overs from that time. Too bad it is slowly going away.

  • http://www.wellington-luxury-homes.com Katerina

    I am so impressed by the way the Japanese are handling this horrific mess. The grocers cut their food prices in half to help out, the farmers passed out fruit, business men passed out bottles of water. Guess what! NO LOOTING!!!! The people stand in line for gas for hours and don’t honk, give the finger or fight. They mourn together, they pull together. They are a huge example of how civility can occur during and after a tragedy. On top of it all, they are among the most prepared of people anywhere. They know and take seriously earthquakes and Tsunamis. I also can not imagine after an event like Hiroshima why there are any nuclear reactors in Japan. We have much to learn from this event. THey are a shining example. I lived in Japan and worked in Japan over 30 years ago. On another note: FDR violated all kinds of human rights. The internment of the Japanese in the US was a horrific human rights violation but you don’t see Japanese protesting all over the US about how they were treated. They moved on to become very successful and productive citizens in the USA. Lessons to learn…

    • libertytrain

      Katerina, yes they sure are impressive. Almost gives one hope that we might be the same if something of that magnitude happens to the USA. Though, I must admit, I’m not as optimistic that we would be as dignified.

      • Thamera

        While I agree about the response of the people in Japan in light of this most recent tragedy,I take exception to the multitude of statements on this thread now that the Japanese are much more civilized than Americans; have all of you forgotten how our nation came together after 9/11? We are also a much larger country than Japan with segments of the population that are far too dependent on the government, that is true (ie:) Katrina, but overall we are an independent, generous, caring people that are civilized and resilient and would do anything to help our “neighbor”. Also, be mindful of history, the Japanese do not have a clean humanitarian record. Those of you talking about “civilized” and “respectful” would no doubt be shocked at the Japanese treatment of their “neighbors” throughout history. Some would call it barbaric.

        • Kate8

          Thamera – NO people have a clean human record. All races and nations are guilty of barbarism throughout history, and still today.

        • 45caliber

          Thamera:

          See my comment above. I agree wiht you.

          I remember a comment once about China – front page story. It talked about a reporter who had left a camera in a park. He went back hours later and it was still there. He had a long story about how honest the people were and that we should have the same culture here.

          In the same paper, there was a tiny story hidden inside. A man in China had both hands cut off because he picked up an apple that had fallen from a tree into a ditch and ate it. That was theft. I can just see that same reporter giving such a story the same coverage here.

          • bob wire

            It’s nice to see some people feel that way about property.

            The rules in my father’s house were simple rules.

            It was not required to know what belonged to who.

            It was enough to know that it wasn’t yours was enough.

            A nickle and a dime could lay on top of the TV set until their owner picked them up, regardless of how times the ice cream man went by.

      • AMJ

        Just look to Katrina to see how citzens of the US will behave in a natural disaster.

    • DaveH

      You mean they don’t behave like the Unionists in Wisconsin when the taxpayers get fed up with paying their exhorbitant salaries?

  • http://www.spiritjewelry.info Suzanne

    Hey Bob…
    * Just watch… the Japanese are going to sell off all their U.S. Treasuries, sell off all foreign held assets and bring it all back home to rebuild Japan. This is going to be a major turning point for the U.S. and it will be a turn for the worst when all those t-bills hit the market.
    * The other thing I’d like to point out… with all the military we have over there, it would have been incredibly easy to get a couple of diesel pumping units & fuel out to those reactors. Why were they permitted to melt down and explode? Nothing about that makes any sense.
    It is already clear that there is a concerted disinformation campaign being conducted to keep the Japanese people in the dark about how dire the situation is and how much danger they are in.

  • http://MSN.com Elena T

    No offense, but could you imagine the blacks from Katrina actually in Japan? All Katrina victims would be wondering to find where the government is. Where are their handouts? Seriously, the behavior of the people impacted in Japan appears to be 100% different from the people in Katrina who did nothing but yell at the government, loot stores, shoot people, and scream for handouts instead of trying to help themselves like the Japanese people are doing.

    Japanese are resilient, and though hundreds of thousands lack electricity, water, food and shelter, looting and rioting is not occurring.

    In Japan, family, community, honor and loyalty are ideals that hold that nation together. Why is that the Japanese are a lot more civilized?

    • http://MSN.com Peter Green

      It’s been several days since the Japan earthquake, tsunami, and related nuclear plant disaster. The damage area is more widespread than Katrina. Significantly more lives and property were loss than Katrina. More people were evacuated and/or homeless than Katrina. Like Katrina, food, water and gasoline are in short supply in the disaster area.

      The Japanese have handled a more devastating/horrific situation with much greater courage and self sufficiency. Furthermore, the folks in Japan had no warning of the impending doom, while the people in New Orleans had at least 5 days notice to leave the area before the devastation hit.

      Overall, I do think it is a huge cultural difference. In New Orleans, the poor have been raised (dare I say trained?) to expect assistance in everything they do instead of using resources to help them rise above any real or perceived roadblocks in society.

    • 45caliber

      Some of those Katrina people are STILL demanding that the government pay all their rent, etc. because “they lost everything in Katrina”.

  • s c

    To date, the main difference between Charlie Sheen and Obummer is the perception that Sheen creates his own problems, while Obummer creates problems that Americans will have to resolve. On the whole, Sheen can be helped. Obummer can’t be helped.
    Sheen is a self-made victim. Obummer wants all Americans to be his victims. I can have some measure of sympathy for Sheen. Obummer’s arrogance precludes any need for sympathy.
    Score one for Sheen. Score zero for Obummer.

    • Carlucci

      Score one for Sheen…….WINNING !!!

      Whacha wanna bet that he’s already trademarked “winning” with his
      likeness right beside it? Last Saturday I was in a funky gift shop in a historical part of my city. They had some of the funniest greeting cards. I don’t go there often, but I’ll bet the next time I do, there are probably going to be some Charlie Sheen/Winning cards in the card racks.

  • Donel

    Yes Suzanne
    The Japanese may sell all those U.S. Treasuries sold to them.
    Cant complain for Japan to sell what they have, to rebuild. Was there for a rainy day. Any better ieda?
    They dont have iron, wood, copper OIL, etc, like the United States, only their ingenuity.
    Not like America, we have the wealth here. Government does nothing! Only sits on it,while printing money and selling U.S. Treasuries, and geting loans from China, with money we gave them, through buying everything made in China.
    Is this the CHANGE? Destroying America. Cant blame the people. Government will NOT listen to the people. Too busy playing Politicks.

    • Patriot

      We are Subjects to be ruled by the Power Elites! Wake up Sheeple!

  • jopa

    Kate and Dave:I must admit I didn’t listen to head Rush Limbow this morning but it was a front page story on the Huffington post so I guess one of their editors listened to the Rush this morning.Check it out and do some research on your own already.Thank you

    • Kate8

      jopa – Oh, well why didn’t you say so! The Huffington Post!

      Now there’s a reliable source.

      • 45caliber

        Almost as reliable as the Daily KOS

        • bob wire

          Do you go there?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            bob wire,
            I tried out the huff n toke site twice. Each time I tried, I was blocked each time I disagreed with their progressive slant, and did so POLITELY! I don’t go back now as that is the most one sided site I have ever seen!!! I like it here, as even though I don’t always agree with everything said by the progs, they are allowed to say their piece! Huff n Toke will never do that as they are too unsure of their base to risk letting it happen!!

          • 45caliber

            not in a long time.

  • jopa

    Thumbera: If you had a job you might be able to get out of those trenches.Did you look at the Huffington post and check out my credibility or do you just sit back and try and slander everyone because of your misery.If you need help just say so and I will be glad to assist you in furthering your education or just in need of food just ask.However I would rather help and finance your education because I believe in the old fish story about you give a man a fish,

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      If you feel that the Huffington Post gives you credibility, you need to go back to posting on their website. I doubt if you will get much credibility here from that site.

    • Thamera

      Jopa: I see that name calling is your forte. Would you like a brownie button for that? I will leave the slandering to you, you do that very well and can you read??? Might want to read what I wrote about the homeless again…the part about how I WORK with them everyday!?! You are truly comical. I won’t even bother responding to your assumptions, all of which could not be further from reality. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA because LOL just doesn’t say enough in your case.

  • jopa

    Kate6: Well it wasn’t something I made up like palm trees in Wisconsin.Where did I see that???

    • Kate8

      jopa – What are rambling about?

      You know, the same way you lefties mock and deride any article coming from a “right wing” site….I’d give the Huffpo about as much attention as you making the whole thing up.

  • Thamera

    Jopa: I have to say that is the best laugh I have had all day. OMG! Are you really so removed from reality that you would cite The Huffington Post as a credible source of information! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now that is funny. You might as well be citing the National Enquirer. You should REALLY do yourself a favor and listen to the people that you and The Huffington Post are so eager to demonize to see what a complete FOOL you have just made of yourself.

    • bob wire

      I would guess the number of misinformed among all sites and forums equal. I enjoy Fox but not so much for it’s commentary but for an occasional informed guest, split screens, running caption, latest GOP spin and pretty women! Hannity is a empty shirt for the most part, Bill is a pompous bore. But all and all a finer product to MSNBC. The only thing MSNBC has going for them today is the lickkedy split, ugly duckling, Dr. Rachael Maddow, the girl has got a mind like a steel trap! If you not “attempted” to view her show, you might consider it if you nothing else to do. It’s not common knowledge and she sure doesn’t flaunt it, but she holds several degrees and is a Rhodes scholar. To assimilate, store and present information, she excels.

      I can’t seem to get any spirited debate going on Huffington, it’s boring.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        bob,
        before you start being impress with Rhodes scholar credentials, check out who has them!!! Peanut Carter sound familiar???

        • Kate8

          JoeH – Besides, being a Rhodes scholar simply means being part of the NWO club. They only pick those who fit in.

        • bob wire

          Well Joe, Jimmy parked his backside in the biggest first chair on the planet and that’s more then you or I will ever do.

          Biggest chair I will end up setting in was the TC seat of a M48, 40ton of American Steel with 1000 horsepower churned out by gasoline powered V 12, belching 6ft flames, fire and smoke every time she unloaded.

          now I’m left to settle for my Easy Boy recliner and a bag of Doritos.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            See bob, there’s where you and I disagree. I give respect when they EARN it!! There are very few here that will argue that Carter was at least the second worst, if not the worst president in the last 50 years!! Just because he was handed the position doesn’t mean I’ll respect him for that!! When he does a good job, now THEN I’ll give him a lot of respect!!!

  • Thamera

    Jopa: BTW, yes I do read The Huffington Post…why do you think I am laughing so hard? I will be laughing all the way to work. Yes, I do work and I also pay taxes. The taxes that you and others like you are so fond of spending :D Cheerio

    • Kate8

      Thamera – You just gave me a good chuckle. Thanks!

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I’ve read the posts here and the understanding is definately all over the place.

    First-Understand that there are 3 types of radiation;

    Gamma = Really-really bad stuff that send neutrons flying through your body. This is the stuff that that will kill the workers and anyone too close to the source. Its invisible and deadly. The only thing to stop it is distance & shielding. Those suits do NOT stop gamma.

    Beta & Alpha = physical “stuff” that gets in direct contact with a radioactive source and then retains the radioactivity. IE Dust, dirt, water vapor, stuff you can wash off or be protected by a suit. Alpha is the least active stuff where Beta is stronger. (speaking in laymens terms).

    So basically to say that “the United states will not see radiation” is true, gamma will not reach here. But to say that we will not receive radioactive contaminated particles (Alpha or beta) landing in the US is a flat out intoxicated LIE.

    The probability of a contentrated dose sufficient enough to kill is low, but not inpossible. If the wind can carry it, it can be moved from there to here.

    How to protect oneself? If you believed or knew for certain that alpha was in the air, then a dust mask, staying in doors, and thoroughly washing your body is all you need to do. Obviously getting in in your lungs and digestive tract is very bad.

    I can tell you that I wouldnt recommend sunbathing in any state that the wind currents from japan blow through for a week or two. If the situation worsens and anything else gets in the air, well then more in the air = bad.

    Not scaring anyone bu thats it in a short answer. 20 years Nuclear Submariner, I am qualified to give a brief describing the basics. These are basics.

    • Kate8

      Bitter L – Yes, and besides, it’s not just a matter of being hit and your dead. Even low doses of radiation are cumulative, and can cause gradual sickening and suffering.

      I suspect that is going on all the time, anyway.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Always remember the 3 ways to protect yourself;
        Time
        Distance
        Shielding

        Once exposed to alpha or beta your clothes are trash, and you need to remove the particles asap. Breathe them in or injest–wicked bad.

  • bob wire

    I read this book many years ago, and still worth a read today.

    Amazon.com: We of Nagasaki;: The story of survivors in an atomic wasteland:

  • jopa

    Kate8 In case you missed it but on fox news channel they were showing protesters in Wisconsin marching and ranting and raving with palm trees growing in the background.However palm trees don’t grow in Wisconsin the climate is too cold.That is what I was rambling about, so if I said Fox news claims Rush was making fun of the tragedy in Japan would you believe it.The Huffington post is so much more credible and I do check their stories out with others and they are the best yet.You should rely on more than one source and come into the light my dearest.Thank you have a good day.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jopa,
      put up a site addy for it and then I will comment on your problem. Such as I didn’t see it and don’t know if they were filmed inside the rotunda, which if enclosed and heated, COULD very well grow palms! We have a building here in Cleveland Oh. that has some about 15 to 20 feet tall!

    • bob wire

      Jopa, don’t let them forget it! But it wasn’t Fox as much as it was Bill O”Really and his programing! who happens to work for Fox. ~ They just got caught red handed with that one, They can get away with spinning the truth but a picture of a Wisconsin palm tree is a bit harder to explain.

      I guess Fox or Bill don’t believe smart people watch their programing, being so use to the dumbing down of news and commentary and not being called out on it except on news programing that conservatives wouldn’t be caught dead watching.

      Hahah hehe ! funny stuff.

    • Kate8

      jopa – I hate to disappoint you, but I only occasionally watch FoxNews, or any news, and didn’t see the clip you mentioned.

      However, being an avid gardener, I do know that there are many kinds of palms, and they grow in varying climates. I live in snow country and I have two palms in my yard.

      Aside from that, I don’t pay much attention to protesters, either. Especially if they are Lefties. People don’t just run out into the streets all at the same time because they’re angry. Most of them are hired, and they are all organized. Many of them couldn’t care less about the issue – they’re just there to make a quick buck.

      I watched a group being trained once in Vegas. Most of them were illegals, homeless or just unemployed.

      • Donel

        I agree with you Kate 100% Wonder how much the union is contributing to have people bussed in. Also Hotel rooms for long demastrations.
        Now their in Washington D.C. from Wisconsin, Be good to investigate, are they working etc?

  • http://com i41

    Onumnutts and the dumbocraps are always sitting on their heads doing nothing except for trying to tax people who make any money. Onumnutts is out playing golf and f–king off instead of cutting regulations and helping get jobs created again. All the soros socialist dumbocraps didn’t want to listen to the people since they won in 2008, well the bastards want a spot at the sand box noow. They didn’t win and are losing more of their space every day with the citizens so buzz off. Todaythe Gov of Mt was saying America doesn’t have very much crude.Damn the complete eastern MT is part of the Williston-Bakken Basin to say some crap like that shows what a bunch of slubs the dumbocraps are. To listen o the dumb bastards with a D behind their name are just greeen idoits at best.

    • bob wire

      well there is stupid one and smart one 41, just like do little republicans

      • Kate8

        bob wire – I’ll take a do-little republican over an over-reaching democrat any day.

        The less government does, the safer we are.

  • 45caliber

    Houston Chronicle has a good article about what would be the worst case senario for Japan and how it would affect us. It is chron.com. The article is headlined.

  • DaveH

    Notice that the media news blamed weather (drought) for high food prices in summer, and now in the winter, it’s the harsh winter weather. No doubt, the winter has been harsher this year (in spite of Global Warming), but pay attention. This is how they did it in the 1970s also, as inflation ravaged the country. There was always an excuse for the higher prices, but I never heard them say a word about the Federal Reserve printing excess dollars.
    The readers of this site, at least, will know better:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Higher-prices-for-food-are-apf-51443885.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=5&asset=&ccode=

  • jopa

    Kate 8;You did kind of strike me as being uninformed.What do you want to know.Maybe I can help you??

    • Kate8

      jopa – Thanks, but I’ll pass. You are the first, BTW, to accuse me of being uninformed.

      I have my sources, but not the MSM or the controlled opposition. I do catch them on and off, but only to hear the spin.

      You strike me as a kool-aid drinker. So it’s your turn now to give me your best shot. Want to go toe-to-toe?

  • jopa

    Joe H;You have palms in Cleveland well thats nothing I have been to the desrt and rainforest in Milwaukee.I think it was a rainforest, or jungle it has been many years ago since I was there last.

    • libertytrain

      Yes, there is a beautiful rain forest in Milwuakee. Enjoyed it many times.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jopa,
      By all means, ignore the total post and just zero in on something you can make a joke about. Care to put up a site that shows that news reel??? One that shows the background behind the protesters??? Or, like nobummer, is that above your pay grade???

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